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[Call to Order]

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THIS NOW 6 0 3.

SO WE CAN BEGIN TONIGHT'S ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

AND

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION]

BEFORE I DO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, JESSICA, ARE YOU HERE? AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR LAST NAME.

YEAH, SURE.

COMMISSIONER.

DO WE WANT TO DO A REAL CURL CALL? YES, I'M SORRY.

IT WAS SO THROWN BY THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

OKAY.

FIRST, I'M SORRY.

I WILL TAKE ROLL FIRST.

AND IT IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021 ELECTION DAY.

COMMISSIONER OR KOSTA CHAIR, BARRERA RAMIREZ, RESIDENT COMMISSIONER BRAY, PRESENT COMMISSIONER DANGLER, PRESENT COMMISSIONER GREENBERG HERE.

COMMISSIONER KING HERE.

COMMISSIONER KOBA HERE.

THAT'S ME COMMISSIONER SMITH, DEAR COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HERE AND COMMISSIONER WOODY.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

HELLO, MY NAME IS JESSICA.

I'M A STUDENT AT UT AUSTIN.

UM, I HAVE LIVED IN AUSTIN MY WHOLE LIFE, UM, BUT I'VE SEEN HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO MAINTAIN A RESIDENCE IN THE CITY AND ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

UM, I'VE HAD SOME FRIENDS THAT HAVE LOST POTENTIAL HOMES BECAUSE OF OUT OF STATE, UM, PEOPLE OFFERING JUST WAY OVER ASKING PRICE.

UM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO START MY CAREER IN AUSTIN, BUT THAT SEEMS MORE OUT OF REACH EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF, UM, THE HOUSING SITUATION IN AUSTIN.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE LAND USE ZONING THAT MAKES IT MORE AFFORDABLE TO LIVE IN AUSTIN.

UH, WHETHER THAT BE THROUGH HIGHER DENSITY OR MORE RENT CONTROLLED UNITS.

UM, I KNOW THAT AUSTIN'S GROWTH IS REALLY EXCITING AND IT BRINGS A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO NEWCOMERS, BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE THE CITY NEEDS TO PRIORITIZE ITS CITIZENS, UM, AND ALLOW LANDLOCKED LAND USE OPPORTUNITIES THAT PROVIDE BASIC NECESSITIES LIKE HOUSING AND TRANSIT TO GET TO WORK AND SCHOOL AND OTHER ESSENTIAL SERVICES.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT I FEEL LIKE HOUSING IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR LAND USE POLICY, UM, AND THAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE ALL PRIORITIZE THAT NEED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND THEN NEXT, WE ALSO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

AND YOUR NAME IS ELIZABETH REYES.

UM, HELLO, MY NAME IS LIZETH REYES AND I AM A FOURTH YEAR STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, PHIL LOOSEN WEST CAMPUS, OR THE AREA ADJACENT TO THE UNIVERSITY.

I AM AWARE THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS BEEN TRYING TO UPDATE EACH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR YEARS NOW, AND THAT THERE WERE MANY ADVANCES MADE.

HOWEVER, UM, WELL THERE WERE MANY ADVANCES MADE IN WEST CAMP IN THE WEST CAMPUS AREA ALLOWING TO INCREASE HIGH LIMITS ON BUILDINGS AND TO ELIMINATE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED TO CREATE.

UH, HOWEVER, FROM WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS OF LIVING THERE AS A STUDENT, THERE IS STILL A HUGE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE AREA KEEPS GETTING GENDER FRYE GENTRIFIED, LIKE THE REST OF THE CITY.

THEREFORE I REQUEST ZONING THAT WOULD PERMIT THE CREATION OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOW INCOME STUDENTS LIKE MYSELF, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW TO COME TO UNIVERSITY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, IT COULD BE A BARRIER FOR LOW INCOME STUDENTS TRYING TO COME TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU ALSO FOR SHOWING UP FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

NO, WE CAN'T DO QUESTIONS.

IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM.

SO NOW THANK YOU.

AND NOW ONTO

[Consent Agenda]

OUR CONSENT AGENDA, AND THAT'S THE FUN PART WHERE I READ THIS ALL OUT AND A ONE TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA IS A ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 19TH, 2021 B ONE, REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 4 7 DASH, UM, OR DASH ONE, TWO, OR IT IS 1, 2, 1, 1 7 JEKYLL CIRCLE THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL B TWO REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 4 8.

MET MESA PLAZA, REZONE.

THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL B3 REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 5 0 MANTECH SOUTH.

AND THAT IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT

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TO NOVEMBER 16 BECAUSE OF RE NOTICE THE NEED TO RE NOTICE C FOUR B 14 BEFORE C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 5 6 WEST SLAUGHTER LANE RESIDENCE IS TO DIST DISTRICT FIVE.

THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL.

TH THIS, THIS IS COMMISSIONER KING.

YES.

I JUST WONDERED IF, UH, WHILE, WHILE YOU FINISHED READING THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WAS WONDERING IF THE APPLICANT FOR BEFORE WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER, UH, A, A FRIENDLY, UH, AMENDMENT, IF YOU WILL, ON, ON BEST CASE TO FOUR 60% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME FOR VMU IT'S, I BELIEVE IT SAYS 80%, BUT IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, TO GO WITH 60% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME FOR 10% OF THE UNITS, UH, BECAUSE IT'S BMU, THEN IT CAN STAY ON CONSENT.

I JUST WONDERED IF THEY MIGHT BE ALLOWED TO ASK THAT WHY YOU READ THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

NO BOOK WILL PULL, YOU CAN PULL THAT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

AND THAT MAKES SENSE.

I MEAN, SO THAT'S OKAY.

SO B BEEF, UM, BEFORE THAT IS NOW A DISCUSSION ITEM B FIVE REZONING CIF 1 4 8 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 6 4 CHRYSLER AIR TEMP HOUSE.

THE OWNER IS ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 7TH, THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, B6 REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 2 7 ROGERS LANE.

RESIDENTIAL.

THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM B SEVEN PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 7 8 SEERLEY COMMUNITY SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAN DISTRICT SEVEN, DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS AS LISTED IN EXHIBIT C.

AND I WILL TAKE A NOTE OR WE'LL TAKE A NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH IS RECUSING RECUSING FROM THAT B EIGHT SUBDIVISION VACATION, CA DASH SEVEN TWO DASH 0 3 9 IN PARENTHESES VAC COMMANDER'S POINT.

THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL BEING NINE FINAL PLAT CA THERE'S 2020 DASH 0 0 2 1 0.08 FORT BRANCH CREEK SUBDIVISION DISTRICT ONE, DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS AS LISTED IN EXHIBIT C B 10, RIGHT PLAN S V DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 2 1 D COA FIRE AND EMS STATION, DEVON PORT BRANCH IN THE ETJ.

AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL.

SO TO SUMMARIZE THAT ALL AGAIN, THAT THE CONSENT AGENDA IS A ONE FOR THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 19TH, B ONE AND B TWO APPROVALS B3, THE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO NOVEMBER 16TH AND B FOR APPROVAL OR BEFORE HAS, IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

NOW B FIVE POSTPONEMENT BY THE OWNER TO DECEMBER 7TH B AND OF COURSE FIGURES.

I DIDN'T PUT B6 IN MY NOTE, B6 AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

OKAY.

B SEVEN DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS LISTED IN EXHIBIT C WAS COMMISSIONER SMITH, RECUSING B A CONSENT APPROVAL, BENIGN CONSENT DISAPPROVAL FOR THE REASONS ALSO AN EXHIBIT C AND B 10 IS CONSENT APPROVAL.

AND IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO WAS WISHING TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA SPEAK NOW, OR ELSE IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED? SO HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? SURE.

COMMISSION-WISE ON ANDOVER.

IF WE COULD PLEASE NOTE THE REASON FOR THE RECUSAL AND THEN JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT, UM, THE BMU IS NOT THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION.

OKAY.

THEN, UH, THE, OKAY, SO CHAIR CHOOSING, CAN WE HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER ALL BY A CONSENT AGENDA? YEAH, I WAS THINKING.

OKAY.

AND, UM, IS THERE A SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRAY? AND DO YOU NEED COMMISSIONER SMITH TO STATE THE REASON FOR HIS RECUSAL? OKAY, GO AHEAD.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE DOING.

SURE.

MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

THE APPLICANT IS AT WILLOW ENGINEERING, WHICH IS A COMPANY I WORKED FOR.

SO I AM THE, I'M AN EFFECT.

SO I RECUSED MYSELF ON THAT ITEM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR RECUSING.

YES, SURE.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER KING.

AND IF I UNDERSTOOD, UH, UH, THE, UH, THE COMMENT FROM STAFF THAT VMU IS NOT THE PURVIEW, SO WE CAN'T EVEN DISCUSS BMU AS PART OF THAT CASE.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THEN MY POINT IS MOOD AND THAT ITEM CAN STAY ON CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE.

OKAY.

THEN BEFORE WE'LL

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ALSO BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, COMMISSIONER, UH, GREENBERG, THE VMU IS A ZONING CATEGORY AND IT'S COMMISSIONER, UM, IT'S NOT KING IS SUGGESTING A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY CHAIR, COMMISSION, LIAISON, AND VERY CANNOT BE, UM, CHANGED HIM VIA A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.

IT'S NOT THE VMU, IT'S THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THAT WHAT'S, WE CAN'T, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE PERFECT REALTOR.

I PHRASED THE POINT ORDER.

WHY DON'T WE KEEP IT OFF, PULL IT OFF OR DISCUSSION? UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED A LEGAL WAY IN HERE.

UH, OKAY.

UM, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST WE BET ON EVERY ITEM, BUT THAT ONE, SO, UM, UM, IF LEGAL'S WEIGHED IN, WE MIGHT AS WELL PUT IT BACK ON AND IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW AND MAYBE LATER AND ANOTHER WEEKEND GET A STAFF MEMO TO THAT EFFECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO THEN WE'RE PUTTING BACK ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND THAT IS, UM, B BEFORE.

OKAY.

ORDER, DO WE NEED ANY EMOTION? UM, YOU CAN JUST, YEAH.

PUT THE NEW CONSENT ATTENDED AND SANTA AGENDA, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UH, ITEM ONE TO, UH, STAFF POSTPONEMENT ON THREE TO 11, UH, 16, UH, ITEM FOUR, UH, ITEM FIVE OWNER APPLICANT POSTPONED A 12, SEVEN, UH, CONSENT, UH, DISAPPROVAL ON SEVEN FOR REASONS LISTED IN EXHIBIT C AND COMMISSIONER SMITH HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.

EIGHT IS A CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, NINE IS CONSENT FOR, UH, DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS LISTED IN EXHIBIT C 10 IS ON CONSENT.

AND I HOPE THAT WAS ALL RIGHT.

THAT I JUMPED IN AND READ THAT FOR YOU.

SURE.

OF COURSE.

THANK YOU.

AND SO ALL THOSE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

YEAH.

CHAIRED THAT MOTION.

THAT MOTION INCLUDES CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR COMMISSIONER WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT IS NIGHT AND SHIT.

HE ATTENDED STILL COUNTS TOWARDS SCORE.

OH YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANKS.

I SHOULD'VE KNOWN THAT.

OKAY.

SO, AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY WHEN I SAW PEOPLE RAISING THEIR HANDS.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SET UP THE CHAIR.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S UM, I DID ABSTAIN FROM THAT.

OH, I'M SORRY.

THAT WAS ME TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A QUICK GLANCE.

UM, CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT? YES.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH WHO ABSTAINED.

IT SAYS COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND NEXT TIME I'LL DO, UH, I'LL LOOK AT EV I'LL DO A, A SLOWER THAN QUICK GLANCE AND, AND I'M SORRY WITH THAT.

WAS THAT AN EXTENSION ON A PARTICULAR ITEM OR THE WHOLE AGENDA CONSENT AGENDA? SORRY, I'M SEARCHING FOR THE ITEM NUMBER ONE SECOND.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T KNOW.

I HAD TO CLARIFY BE SEVEN.

THANK YOU.

SO BY ITEM B SEVEN, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, UH, ABSTAINED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN NOW ONTO OUR DISCUSSION ITEM, R B

[B.6. C14-2021-0127 - Rogers Lane Residential; District 1]

SIX AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY ELSE.

GOOD EVENING, HEATHER CHAFFIN WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRESENTING CASE C 14 20 20 0 1 2 7 OR ROGERS LANE, RESIDENTIAL REQUEST GOING FROM SF TO, TO S F 6 54 17 ROGERS LANE.

IT'S A ONE ACRE PROPERTY AND STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE REQUEST.

THE PROPERTY IS ON ROGERS LANE, WHICH IS A LEVEL ONE ROAD THAT PRIMARILY SERVES LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AS THIS ONE IS THE RIGHT OF WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 52 FEET WIDE.

AND PAVEMENT IS 18 FEET WIDE.

UH, IT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE ASM P IS A LEVEL ONE ROAD, BUT THERE ARE NO IMMEDIATE OR LONG-TERM IMPROVEMENTS TO RUTGERS LANE.

SORRY.

UM, IN THE, IN THE FUTURE, IN THE NEAR OR LONG-TERM

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FUTURE, THIS, UH, PROJECT DOES, OR THE REZONING DOES NOT TRIGGER A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

THERE IS A VALID PETITION THAT MEETS THE THRESHOLD WITH HAVING 47.07% OF ELIGIBLE SIGNATURES.

AGAIN, IT'S A ONE ACRE PROPERTY ZONED SF TWO.

SO THEREFORE IT IS ALLOWED ONLY ONE RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY.

IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF ROGERS LANE, ABOUT 1300 FEET NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION WITH FM 9 69.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AND REPLACE THE ONE HOUSE WITH 10 TO 12 TOWNHOUSE CONDOMINIUM, RESIDENTIAL UNITS, PRETTY MUCH ALL THE PROPERTIES, ALL THE PROPERTIES IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY ARE ALSO ZONED SF TWO.

THEY'RE PRIMARILY ALSO DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND RELATED STRUCTURES.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION OF ROGERS AND 9 69, THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED SF TWO, BUT IS DEVELOPED WITH A ART STUDIO MEETING PLACE, INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, UH, FURTHER NORTH, UH, OF THE PROPERTY IS A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY.

PART OF IT'S IN THE COUNTY.

AND THE PART THAT'S IN THE CITY IS ZONED.

MH, THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE FRONTAGE OR ACCESS TO ROGERS LANE.

WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS PASSED.

SOME SF TWO TO THE WEST IS PROPERTY THAT IS UNDEVELOPED ZONED, SF SIX FURTHER TO THE EAST ALSO, UH, SEPARATED BY SINGLE FAMILY.

RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IS OAK MEADOWS ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS ALSO SF TWO.

AS I MENTIONED IN THE ISSUE SECTION ROGERS LANE, UH, IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THIS PROPERTY, AS I SAID, WITH 10 TO 12 UNITS DOES NOT TRIGGER A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

THERE IS ANOTHER CASE, SEPARATE APPLICANT, SEPARATE AGENT THAT IS TO THE WEST OF THIS THAT HAS BEEN FILED.

IT'S A, IT'S A LARGER PROPERTY, A LARGER REQUEST.

IT WILL TRIGGER AN NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED AT THIS TIME ON THAT ONE, CALLING IT UP THE GAVI ANNEX IS THAT IT WOULD TAKE ACCESS TO ROGERS LANE AND TO THE STREET, THROUGH THE AGAVA NEIGHBORHOOD AT, WITH THE NTA, UH, MITIGATIONS, INCLUDING POTENTIAL STREET WIDENING MAY BE RECOMMENDED, BUT THAT, UH, NTA, THE ZONING CASE HAS BEEN, BUT THE CALCULATIONS NEEDED FOR THE NTA HAVE NOT BEEN SUBMITTED.

STAFF SUPPORTS THE SF SIX REZONING ADDING 10 TO 12 DWELLING UNITS, INSTEAD OF ONE SINGLE HOUSE, UH, PROVIDES, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE HOUSING.

AND IT'S A HOUSING TYPE THAT'S GENERALLY NOT AVAILABLE IN THIS AREA, WHICH THE RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA IS SF TWO IN SF THREE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THERE ARE ALSO NEIGHBORS AND OPPOSITION.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND I SEE THAT VICTORIA HASI IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

KATIE OBSCENE COMMISSION, VICTORIA HASI WITH ROVER DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE LANDOWNER, THE SUBJECT TRACT IS OUTLINED IN BLUE AND THE MAP BEFORE YOU IT'S NEARLY AN ACRE OF LAND.

AND AS A QUARTER MILE, JUST NORTH OF THE IMAGINE AUSTIN, UH, ACTIVITY CORRIDOR, WHICH IS FM 9 69, IT'S NEARLY TWO MILES BY TRAVELED PATH TO COLLEEN PARK STATION, WHICH IS AN IMAGINE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER TO THE NORTH.

AND IN THAT CENTER OR NEAR THAT CENTER, THERE IS A PROPOSED STOP FOR THE PROJECT GREEN LINE PROJECT CONNECT GREEN LINE, WHICH IS SHOWN WITH THE GREEN LINE.

THE RED COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES OR LANDS ARE APPROPRIATELY LOCATED ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD OF FM 9, 6, 9, AND HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING USES FOR THE RESIDENCES IN THIS AREA.

MOST OF THE LAND, AS HEATHER SAID IN THIS AREA IS SINGLE FAMILY RANGING FROM SF TWO ALL THE WAY UP TO SF SIX.

AND THEN YOU DO SEE THE MULTI MOBILE HOME LANDS THAT ARE FURTHER NORTH, BUT NOT ACCESSIBLE FROM ROGERS LANE.

THEREFORE OUR REQUEST IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE RANGE OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONE PROPERTIES.

IN THIS AREA.

THIS TABLE SHOWS THE LIKELY YIELD OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS THROUGH THE LENS OF THE VARIOUS

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SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS, SF FIVE AND SF SIX ARE BOTH CONSIDERED HIGHER DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS.

AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THE YIELD IS ESTIMATED TO BE THE SAME BETWEEN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS COMPARING THE DIFFERENCE OF SIX SF THREE DWELLING UNITS VERSUS EIGHT HIGHER DENSITY DWELLING UNITS.

EACH S THREE UNIT IS ESTIMATED TO COST AT LEAST $70,000 MORE THAN THE UNITS DEVELOPED UNDER AN SFI OR SF SIX SCENARIO.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE GREATER NUMBER OF UNITS ALLOWS FOR GREATER COST SHARING OF THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING THESE HOMES LENDING TO A LOWER SALES PRICE FOR THE HOMEOWNER IN THE END.

AND IF YOU COULD IMAGINE SF TO THE CURRENT ZONING TO BUILD, UH, TO BUILD MORE UNITS UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, THE COSTS WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER THAN 70% OR SORRY, 70,000 PER DWELLING UNIT THAT, THAT YOU WOULD GET WITH SF THREE.

SO THERE ARE SEVERAL BENEFITS TO HIGHER DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY, AND INCREASING HOUSING UNITS TO HELP THE CITY REACH ITS HOUSING GOALS.

IT ALSO MAINTAINS SINGLE FAMILY CHARACTER, WHICH WE OFTEN HEAR IS A VERY, IT'S A VERY COMMON CONCERN FOR NEARBY SINGLE FAMILY LANDOWNERS.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

THEREFORE IT DOES END UP COSTING LESS FOR THE UNITS IN THE END, BUT IT WILL REQUIRE A SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH LENDS TO GREATER TREE PROTECTIONS AND A SITE LAYOUT THAT BETTER RESPONDS TO ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES AND POINTING BACK TO THE MOST RECENT SCORECARD FOR THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT.

THE CITY HAS A LONG WAY TO GO AND BUILDING UNITS OF ALL INCOME LEVELS AND ALL THE GRAY THAT YOU SEE IN THIS PROGRESS WHEEL REPRESENTS THE UNITS THAT ARE STILL NEEDED.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU TO SUPPORT MORE HOUSING TONIGHT WITH YOUR VOTE AND I REMAIN AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND SEE.

AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE LIST, BUT, UM, AND IF NOT, THEN WE WILL GO TO THE, UM, WHO'S HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION AND IT LOOKS LIKE MARIA C. BOWEN.

YOU'RE THE FIRST YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES AS THE PRIMARY SPEAKER.

MY NAME IS MARIA BOWEN AND I'VE LIVED ON ROGERS LANE FOR OVER 15 YEARS.

I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE ZONING CODE CHANGE FOR 54 17 ROGERS LANE.

MY STREET IS AN OLD FORGOTTEN COUNTRY ROAD THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO ACCOMMODATE DENSELY OR MODERATELY DENSE BUILT HOMES, ROGERS LANE, AND ROGERS LOOP BRANCH OFF OF FM 9 69 AND BOTH ROGERS LANE AND ROGERS LOOP MEET AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, ESSENTIALLY BECOMING ONE ROAD LESS THAN ONE MILE LONG.

THE NARROW IS PART OF OUR ROAD IN SOME AREAS IS 12 FEET WIDE.

AND AT THE WIDEST IT'S ABOUT 15, 16 FEET.

TWO VEHICLES CANNOT TRAVERSE IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS SAFELY.

ONE VEHICLE MUST STOP AND LET THE OTHER GO.

FIRST.

THIS MAKES IT SUPER CHALLENGING FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND SERVICE VEHICLES TO TRAVERSE ON OUR ROAD.

THEY HAVE TO USE OUR PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS TO TURN BACK AROUND SINCE THERE'S NO OUTLET FOR OUR ROAD, THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO ACCESS FM 9 69.

OUR ROAD IS SURROUNDED BY NATURAL SPRINGS AND PONDS WITH A LOT OF WILDLIFE, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO EXPAND OUR ROAD WITHOUT DISTURBING THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE.

SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE STORM DRAINS, WE EXPERIENCE A LOT OF EROSION ALL AROUND US AND AROUND OUR FOUNDATIONS.

WHEN IT RAINS MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT COMES WITH DENSELY BUILT HOMES WILL WORSEN THIS EXISTING PROBLEM.

IN SOME PLACES THERE ARE DITCHES ALONGSIDE THE ROAD FROM THE WATER CARVING AWAY DOWN THE HILL.

SINCE OUR ROADS ARE SO NARROW WITH DITCHES ALONGSIDE THEM, THERE IS VERY LITTLE OFF STREET PARKING.

SO MOST PEOPLE PARK ON THE STREET OR IN SOME AREAS, THEY PARKED HALFWAY ON THE STREET AND HALFWAY ON THE GRASS BLOCKING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

ALSO,

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SINCE WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS, WHEN PEOPLE GO FOR A WALK, THEY USUALLY STAY ON THE STREET FOR SAFETY AND HAVING MORE HOUSING WOULD BE HAZARDOUS TO PEDESTRIANS.

WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

SO BUILDING MORE HOMES WILL BRING MORE CARS, THUS MORE TRAFFIC.

IT IS ALREADY VERY DIFFICULT TO EXIT ONTO FM 9 69 SAFELY BECAUSE VEHICLES SPEED WAY ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT.

DURING NON-PEAK HOURS DURING PEAK HOURS FOR MORNING COMMUTE, IT COULD TAKE FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES PER VEHICLE TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ONTO FM 9, 6, 9.

SINCE THAT ROAD BECOMES SO CONGESTED ALL THE WAY FROM TOLL ROAD, HEADED INTO TOWN.

ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS EAST OF 180 3 TOLL ROAD HAVE ONLY TWO MAIN ROADS THAT WE CAN USE TO MAKE OUR WAY TO DOWNTOWN, TO SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, LARGE GROCERY STORES, PHARMACIES, AND HOSPITALS.

THOSE ROADS ARE FM 9 69 AND LOYOLA LANE.

THEY BECOME VERY SATURATED AT HIGH TRAFFIC HOURS.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME TO BUILD DENSELY POPULATED NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN WE ARE ALREADY FACING AN EXISTING MOBILITY PROBLEM.

I OPPOSED THE ZONING CODE CHANGE FOR ALL THE REASONS ALREADY MENTIONED ALSO BECAUSE IT WILL SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER ZONING CODE CHANGE REQUESTS ON OUR STREET.

THERE IS ALREADY AN EXISTING REQUEST FOR ANOTHER CODE CHANGE ON OUR STREET FOR A PROJECT OF APPROXIMATELY 100 HOMES THAT WOULD BE BUILT FIVE TO SEVEN FEET APART FROM EACH OTHER.

THIS IS CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE HOUSING THAT IS SO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER SOMEHOW ALWAYS BRINGS CRIME.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SINCE MANY RESIDENTS ARE ELDER FOLKS THAT OWN A LOT OF ACRES THAT COULD EVENTUALLY BE SOLD AND DEVELOPED.

IF WE CHANGE THE CODE, NOW WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SCALE BACK DOWN THE AMOUNT OF HOMES ON OUR STREET, CREATING A NIGHTMARE FOR US TO GET IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ALREADY HAD ISSUES GETTING IN AND OUT WITH THE FOUR NEW HOMES CURRENTLY BEING BUILT BY THIS SAME DEVELOPER THAT IS REQUESTING THE CODE CHANGE FOR 54 17 ROGERS LANES.

THE TRUCKS THAT BROUGHT IN THE BUILDING MATERIALS AND SOME OF THE WORKERS VEHICLES WERE PARKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AS I WAS COMING DOWN THE HILL ONE DAY AND I COULDN'T SEE THE VEHICLES UNTIL I WAS HALFWAY DOWN THE HILL.

SO I HAD TO PUT MY VAN IN REVERSE AND DRIVE BACKWARDS TO THE TOP OF THE HILL WHERE ROGERS LANE AND ROGERS LOOP MEET.

SO I COULD ACCESS FM 9 69 BY USING ROGERS LOOP.

INSTEAD, SADLY, NONE OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD THE FORESIGHT TO FIGHT THAT ZONING CODE CHANGE REQUEST WHEN IT CAME UP AND NOW IT'S A DONE DEAL.

BUT THOSE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO OFF STREET PARKING.

SO IF THOSE FOLKS HAVE TOO MANY CARS PER HOUSEHOLD, THEY WILL BE OUT OF LUCK OR THEY WILL BE FORCED TO GO UP THE HILL A WAYS TO PARK IN FRONT OF SOMEONE ELSE'S HOUSE.

OUR ROAD IS JUST NOT EQUIPPED FOR A LOT OF VEHICLES IN THE WORDS, MY ELDER NEIGHBOR, MR. PITTMAN, WHO WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN HERE, BUT HE'S IN THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW.

I QUOTE THIS ROAD, CAN'T TAKE IT.

I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE TO KEEP THE EXISTING CODE IN PLACE.

CHANGING THE CODE WILL SIGNIFICANTLY DIMINISH OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, SHATTER OUR TIGHT COMMUNITY OF 27 FAMILIES.

AND DARE I SAY, EVEN RESULT IN OUR DISPLACEMENT, PLEASE KEEP THE CODE AS IS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN NEXT WE WILL HAVE, AND I SAY THAT WE HAVE SOME MORE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP, BUT NEXT IS, IS IT PARKER HIGHLIGHT OR I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE.

I'M SORRY.

OH, THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

AND NEXT WE HAVE JOE ALTAMIRANO JR.

SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION AND THEN AFTER HIM PARKER RANK AND THEN MARTHA COLE MORGAN.

HI.

HI, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE BEFORE.

Y'ALL.

UH, I, UNLIKE, UH, MARIA, I WAS THERE SINCE I WAS KNEE-HIGH TO A GRASSHOPPER.

SO I GREW UP IN THAT AREA.

I REMEMBER WHEN THE CITY LIMIT WAS NOT EVEN TO AIRPORT YET AIRPORT BOULEVARD, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK IT THANK ALMOST 20 YEARS TO GET THERE BEFORE IT MADE ANOTHER JOB.

BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS, IS, UH, THE COST OF LIVING AROUND MY AREA.

THE CHEAPEST HOUSE YOU CAN BUY AT THIS MOMENT IS $575,000.

AND THAT'S EVEN WITH THE SIZE THAT THEY

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WANT TO BILL.

SO, AND THEN THEY WANT TO DEVELOP SOME MORE PROPERTY THAT'S AROUND US.

NOW, I'VE BEEN THERE 39 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN PAYING THE CITY FOR DRAINAGE.

I'VE BEEN PAYING THEM FOR STREET CLEANING THE WHOLE NINE YARDS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK ONE TIME I CALLED BECAUSE I WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE $20 THAT IT CAME OUT TO.

SO THE CITY OF AUSTIN WAS NICE ENOUGH TO SEND A STREET SWEEPER UP THERE ONE TIME.

SO THERE HAS BEEN ONE STREET CLEANER HAS COME THROUGH ONCE IN 39 YEARS.

BUT, UM, THEY ASKED, THEY ASKED FOR, UH, TRAFFIC SURVEYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND TO BE HONEST ABOUT IT, EVEN IF THEY DO ONE IT'S IT'S UNJUSTIFIABLE, I MEAN, WE GOT THE NEW COMPANY, TESLA 5, 5, 5 MILES, LESS THAN FIVE MILES AWAY, AND IT'S NOT EVEN FINISHED.

AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE COMING IN.

I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO COMPOUND AND WORSE THAN IT.

I MEAN, UH, SINCE COVID THE TRAFFIC ISN'T AS HORRENDOUS, I REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY WHERE I COULD TELL ANYBODY FROM WHERE WE LIVE, I COULD GO ANYWHERE IN AUSTIN WITHIN 15 TO 30 MINUTES.

IF I TRIED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

NOW THESE DAYS, IT TAKES ME TWO HOURS, YOU KNOW? AND, AND IT JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLES THEY'RE EVEN WORSE.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I SEE THEM JUST STANDING THERE FOR FIVE MINUTES, JUST WAITING FOR TRAFFIC, GET OUT THE WAY.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING IS BOTTLENECK OUT IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, WE'RE ONE OF THE LAST EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THERE IS NO THOROUGHFARE THROUGH IT.

SO THE ONLY POSSIBILITY THAT IT CAN BE DONE IS THERE HAS TO BE A ROAD THAT GOES DOWN RICHARD ROGERS LANE, WEST ALL THE WAY TO LAYOLA TO EVEN EVEN MAKE IT WORK.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A SIGNAL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL.

SO EVEN WHEN YOU TRY TO GO DOWN, GET OFF OF THAT HILL IN THE MORNING, AND NOW THAT YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT TO CARRY A GUN IS EVEN WORSE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO ACTUALLY JUST JUMP IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW? SO I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE ROAD RAGE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET YOU OFF THE HILL.

MY TIME'S UP.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND THEN NEXT IS PARKER.

ALRIGHT.

HI.

HOW ARE YOU GUYS? SO, UH, MY NAME IS PARKER HANK.

I LIVE ON ROGERS LANE AND WE'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 2014 AND I'M OPPOSED TO THE REZONING.

UH, I THINK THE REASON IS BECAUSE NOT REALLY THIS ONE PARTICULAR A LOT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN LAND ON OUR STREET.

THERE'S EASILY 50 PLUS ACRES THAT WE'LL BE TURNING OVER IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND PROBABLY ALMOST THAT MUCH NOW.

AND SO IF YOU TAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, THE DENSITY OF 10 HOMES PER ACRE AND APPLY IT TO ALL HIS 50 ACRES, WE'LL HAVE HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL HOMES.

I MEAN, IT WILL LIKE, THERE'LL BE 20 X, THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON OUR STREET.

AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING LIVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND AUSTIN, I'VE NEVER FOUND SOMEPLACE THAT I ENJOYED AS MUCH AS ROGERS LANE BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN JUST WALK UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

IT'S A DEAD END ROAD.

YOU KNOW, EVERYONE THAT COMES UP AND DOWN, YOU CAN SAY HI TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.

WE'VE NEVER KNOWN THIS MANY NEIGHBORS AS WE KNOW HERE.

UM, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS AS MARIA POINTED OUT AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE USES THE STREET, MY KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKES UP AND DOWN THE STREET ALL THE TIME.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE NOT THIS ONE PROPERTY, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU ALLOW THIS ONE PROPERTY TO DO SF SIX, EVERYONE ELSE WILL SAY, WELL, THEY DID IT.

WHY CAN'T WE? AND BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT THERE'LL BE JUST TOO MANY HOUSES ON THE STREET FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE STREET TO SUSTAIN.

AND SO I JUST THINK THAT IT DOESN'T PROMOTE WALKING OR BIKING ON THE STREET UNLESS THERE'S SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S ALREADY A REALLY WIDE VARIETY OF HOMES IN THE AREA.

YOU HAVE EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, THE TINY HOME COMMUNITY OFF DECKER TO THE MOBILE HOME PARK AT LOMA VISTA TO, YOU KNOW, THE APARTMENTS THAT JUST WENT IN AND ON DECK OR A 9 69 TO LIKE 700,000 PLUS DOLLAR HOMES AND A GABI.

SO I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC REASON THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SF SIX ON THIS PROPERTY OR FOR ANY OF THE PROPERTIES IN OUR AREA TO STILL DEVELOP IT AND USE THE LAND EFFECTIVELY WITHOUT DESTROYING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

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OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN NEXT IS LOOK FOR THE LAST PERSON, MARTHA COLE.

MORGAN, CAN I ASK IF YOU HAVE GRACE KRAMER ON THE LIST AS WELL? SHE SIGNED UP ALSO, NO, I DON'T SEE HER NAME.

IS IT POSSIBLE FOR HER TO SPEAK? YEAH.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO MY NAME IS MARTHA COLE MORGAN.

MY FAMILY HAS RESIDED ON ROGERS LINE FOR OVER 50 YEARS, AS WELL AS THE PITTMANS WHO WAS MY AUNT AND UNCLE.

AND THE HITCHCOCK'S, THE HITCHCOCK'S PROPERTY IS A REGISTERED HISTORICAL SITE FOR INDIAN ARTIFACTS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL NATURAL SPRINGS ON THE HILL.

UM, AND ALSO THERE, THEY HAVE A CERTIFIED ORGANIC FARM.

I BELIEVE THEY HAVE 15 ACRES UP THERE.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF LONGTERM AUSTIN RESIDENTS THAT HAVE RESIDED HERE.

AND THEY'RE REALLY FEARFUL OF LIVING OUT THE REMAINING YEARS WITH ALL THESE NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AND STRANGERS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND BELIEVE ME, THEY WELCOME EVERYONE.

SO IF THIS DOES HAPPEN, WHOEVER MOVES UP THERE, THEY WILL KNOW EVERYONE.

IT'LL BE EITHER A NEW FAMILY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD ON EVERYONE BECAUSE IT'S SO PEACEFUL UP THERE.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE LIVING IN AUSTIN UP ON ROGERS HILL.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE OUT IN THE COUNTRY.

THERE ARE COYOTES THERE'S, BOBCAT'S, THERE'S FOXES, THERE'S DEER, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WILDLIFE THAT IS GOING TO BE DISPLACED BY A CHANGE IN THE ZONING AND, YOU KNOW, ANY RUNOFF IN THE RUNOFF FROM THE SPRINGS AND ANYTHING THAT GOES INTO THE GROUND THAT FEEDS RIGHT INTO WALNUT CREEK.

UM, AND LIKE THE OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, THE PARKING IS ALREADY HORRENDOUS.

I CAN'T, I DON'T THINK DURING THE ICE STORM, ANYONE WAS ABLE TO GET ON THE HILL OR OFF THE HILL.

IT LITERALLY IS A HIGH HILL.

AND SO YOU'RE STUCK UP THERE WITH NO RESOURCES, UM, DURING A STORM.

AND WHEN SOMEONE'S COMING DOWN, YOU HAVE TO LITERALLY PULL OVER AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, ALMOST INTO THE DITCH TO LET THEM PASS.

I'VE LIVED UP THERE.

I'VE BEEN UP THERE MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY MY NAME, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME MY AGE, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY ROW ROAD WORK DONE AT ALL, EVER NOT PATCHING OF THE ROADS AT THE PATCHING THAT I'VE SEEN HAS BEEN FROM PEOPLE THAT LIVE UP THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OVERCROWDING.

WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY, UM, THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, THE BIGGEST THING, QUALITY OF LIFE, THE NOISE LEVELS.

UM, THERE IS NO HOA UP THERE, SO EVERYBODY RELIES ON EVERYBODY ELSE.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS UP THERE AND THAT'S FANTASTIC.

IT'S LIKE MAYBERRY UP THERE AND WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF PROTECT THAT, UM, AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

SO THANK YOU.

I HOPE YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND I DO SEE THAT GRACE KRAMER IS SIGNED UP, BUT NOT TO SPEAK, BUT IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, YOU CAN SURELY CHANGE YOUR MIND, BUT DON'T FEEL PRESSURE.

UM, MY NAME IS GRACE KRAMER AND I LIVE AT 54 14 ROGERS LANE.

I'M JUST, AND I'M OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, JUST FOR THE DENSITY OF IT, JUST FOR A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON.

THIS WAS PART OF STEPHEN F. AUSTIN LITTLE COLONY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1827.

WE ARE PART OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE HORNS B LEAGUE AND A LEAGUE WAS 4,428 ACRES.

SO EASILY HORNS.

WE HAD 44 BURLESON HAS 44 ROGERS HAD 44.

THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE THAT WERE BROUGHT IN TO THE AREA IN THE 1827.

THE PARCELS THAT HAVE BEEN CUT OUT OF THAT LAND ARE STILL THE SAME AS THEY WERE FROM THE ORIGINAL CUT.

AND I WISH I HAD HAD A MAP TO SHOW HIM THAT WE COULD LOOK AT THE, YOU CAN SEE THE SQUARE OF HOW WE ARE ALL DESIGNED AND HOW THOSE, THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND, AND LITTLE OR NO CHANGE TO THOSE AT ALL.

IN ADDITION TO THE RICH HISTORY TO THE AREA, WE ALSO ARE RICH IN GEOLOGY AND PREHISTORIC SITES THAT ARE UP THERE.

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I MYSELF HAVE A, A LARGE COLLECTION OF, UH, UH, PREHISTORIC ARROW HAD FLINT OBJECTS THAT I'VE COLLECTED.

AND I KNOW MY NEIGHBOR HAS MOUNTED PICTURES OF THOSE THAT HE'S GATHERED ON HIS LAND.

THERE ARE ALSO NATURAL SPRINGS AS MENTIONED, AND THOSE NATURAL SPRINGS FEED INTO SEVERAL NATURAL PONDS.

AND WE ARE UP REALLY ON A HILL, A HIGH ELEVATION OF THE HILL.

MOST OF THESE PARCELS, THERE ARE ONLY 22 HOMES ON ROGERS LANE AND THOSE HOMES, MOST OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS HAVE MORE THAN AN ACRE OF LAND.

WE HAVE ALMOST THREE ACRES AND IT HAS BEEN A VERY SAFE STABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW, UH, MOST OF US HAVE BEEN THERE OVER 30 YEARS.

THERE'S A FEW NEWCOMERS, BUT THEY HAVE JUST SETTLED IN AND BECOME PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, I WILL IMAGINE THAT, UH, ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT HEATHER HAD MENTIONED WAS TO THE WEST OF US, IT WAS CODED AS SF SEX THAT DOES HAVE AN, A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OF NO MORE THAN THREE UNITS PER BUILDING.

SO THERE IS AN OVERLAY ON THAT.

AND I WOULD THINK THAT SOMETHING ALONG WITH OUR LIMITED ACCESS, IT'S, IT'S JUST REALLY IS A NIGHTMARE UP THERE.

AND IN THE SF STATE THAT SAYS THIS DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR AREAS IN WHICH YOU ARE UNUSUALLY LARGE, LOTS PREDOMINANT WITH ACCESS TO OTHER THAN MINOR RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

WE ARE A HALF MILE ROAD.

IT IS NO, IT'S NO OUTLET.

AND IT IS, IT'S JUST TIED IN THERE, NO BUSES.

UH, AND I JUST FEEL AS IF WE WERE NOT WANTING TO STOP DEVELOPMENT, WE JUST WANT THE RESPECT OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HISTORY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION AND IF NOT VICTORIA, YOU OR RON CAN DO A REBUTTAL VICTORIA AGAIN WITH RIVER DESIGN.

UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE, UM, USED TO THE WAY THAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.

UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT CITIES ARE LIVING AND BREATHING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CITY OF AUSTIN WAS FIRST, UH, ESTABLISHED, IT DIDN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE IT DID TODAY.

LIKE IT DOES TODAY.

IT DIDN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE WHAT IT DOES ON ROGERS LANE, NONE OF THAT EXISTED.

AND AT SOME POINT PEOPLE CAME HERE BECAUSE IT WAS A PLACE WHERE THEY WANTED TO BE.

AND IN ORDER TO BE HERE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PLACES TO LIVE.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT, WE ARE IN A HOUSING CRISIS.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOUSES.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO COME HERE.

HOUSES ARE COSTING WAY TOO MUCH.

YOU HEARD THE TWO STUDENTS FROM UT CONCERN THAT THEY GO TO COLLEGE HERE AND THEY CAN'T STAY HERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE.

I MYSELF HAVE TWO CHILDREN WHO AT SOME POINT I'M CONCERNED IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOUSE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX THE CRISIS ISSUES BETWEEN NOT HAVING ENOUGH UNITS IN BETWEEN UNITS COSTING TOO MUCH BY STOPPING MORE HOUSING UNITS FROM BEING BUILT.

IF ANYTHING, IF WE CAN GET MORE DENSITY FURTHER INTO THE CENTRAL CITY, MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO FURTHER OUT LOOKING FOR PLACES TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STREET CAN'T ACCOMMODATE, UH, MORE HOUSING UNITS.

THERE'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T THERE.

AND YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

DEVELOPMENT BRINGS THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT BRINGS THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.

IT BRINGS SIDEWALKS.

IT BRINGS CURB AND GUTTER.

UM, IT BRINGS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND WHILE IT MAY BE PIECEMEAL, EVENTUALLY IT WILL GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S A COMPLETE SYSTEM.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL.

IT WILL CONTRIBUTE WHAT IT BEATS AND WHAT IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO HELP THIS AREA, GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IT NEEDS.

I ALSO HEARD ABOUT IMPERVIOUS COVER AND CONCERNS THAT DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS SITE WILL INCREASE IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT THEY'RE HAVING DRAINAGE ISSUES.

THERE'S NO DETENTION, THERE'S NO STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BRING THAT EVEN A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION HERE IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PUT IN STORM WATER,

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DETENTION PONDS, THINGS THAT THE CURRENT HOUSES OUT THERE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO DO BECAUSE THEY WERE BUILT AT A TIME WHERE THE CITY OF AUSTIN DIDN'T HAVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE.

SO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE WILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS.

AND AT THE VERY LEAST NOT MAKE IT ANY WORSE, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND, WELL, I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND IS THERE EMOTION, IS THERE DISCUSSION AND LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER DANCLER MOVE TO CLOSE THE HEARING.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SMITH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, RAISE YOUR HANDS AND LOOKING INTO, OKAY.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW, ANY MORE MOTIONS OR QUESTIONS AND I WILL GO TO AND LOOK IN THIS WAY AND YEAH.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER SMITH.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT IF WE GO BACK TO THE LAST MEETING WE HAD AND LOOKED AT THE MAP OF UNDEVELOPED LAND IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND THERE IS VERY LITTLE UNDEVELOPED LAND IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE TO US, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH EVERY UNDEVELOPED PIECE OF LAND.

WE TRY TO PUT HOMES ON, UH, BUT WE ARE IN A HOUSING CRISIS AND WE HAVE TO BUILD MORE HOMES.

THAT'S THE ONLY SOLUTION TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN IS TO BUILD MORE, UM, DEVELOPMENT WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF.

AS HE SAID, WE WILL HAVE TO PUT IN DETENTION AND WATER QUALITY PONDS ON THESE FACILITIES.

THEY'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS OFFSITE DRAINAGE.

THEY'LL HAVE TO DRESS THE ROADWAY IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, SO OVER TIME IT WILL TAKE CARE OF IT, BUT WITH A LACK OF AVAILABLE LAND AND THE NEED FOR HOUSING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE SAME DISCUSSIONS AND SAME DECISIONS AND SAME PROJECTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

UM, IT'S NOT THE GOOD ANSWER, BUT IT IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

AND I DON'T SEE IT CHANGING ANYTIME.

SO FOR THAT, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SF SIX ZONING AND PENDING MORE DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRAY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER DENTLER, I'M GOING TO MOVE A SUBSTITUTE TO DENY, UM, THE REZONING.

UM, WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS CASE IS YOU COULD, UH, BUILD EIGHT UNITS IN SF, TOO.

WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT IS SUBDIVISION? AND WHILE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS INDICATING THAT HE, UH, THAT COULD LOWER THE COST OF THE HOUSING, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT HOUSING WILL BE OFFERED AT A REDUCED PRICE.

THE OTHER PROBLEM I HAVE WITH IT IS THAT MEANS THAT THE DRIVEWAY INSIDE THOSE PROPERTIES IS PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.

AND THAT CAN BE A GOOD THING.

IF THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT, IT CAN BE A BAD THING.

IF THE CITY ENDS UP HAVING TO TAKE OVER THE DRIVEWAY, THEREFORE COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM.

AND SOME OF WHAT ALSO BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS IS THE TIMING OF THE CASE, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT NOT HAVING TO DO THEIR, UM, THEY'LL HAVING TO DO THEIR FAIR SHARE IN THE FRONT.

THIS IS COMING WITHOUT THE OVERALL PICTURE OF AN NTA COMING BEFORE, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES ARE GOING THROUGH.

AND FINALLY, WHEN SOMEONE IS HAVING TO BACK UP THEIR VAN UP A HILL TO BE ABLE TO GET PAST, UH, BECAUSE THE STREET IS BLOCKED, MAYBE JUST THIS ONE TIME FOR CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT HAPPENS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT.

THERE IS A REAL SAFETY ISSUE, SO I CAN'T SUPPORT, UH, THE ZONING.

SO I'M MOVING TO DENY AND I SINCERELY HOPE THERE'S A SECOND.

IS THERE A SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WOODY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, AND THEN I'LL GO TO THE SCREEN.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, WHICH CONCERNS THE SF SIX, UM, HOW ARE THE NUMBER OF UNITS LIMITED ON THAT ONE ACRE? I PROBABLY SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT FOR SOME OTHER ZONING CATEGORIES, BUT NOT FOR US OF SIX.

SORRY, MY COMPUTER MAY DIE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS QUESTION.

IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE PROPERTY, UH, THIS TO THIS SITE.

YEAH.

IT'S THERE.

I DON'T SEE, LIKE, I BELIEVE IT'S PER ACRE IN THE ZONING OR 12 UNITS PER ACRE.

OH, THERE LOOKING IN THE H 12 RANCH DUE TO THE SITE CONDITIONS.

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SO IT DOES LIMIT THE SF, THE ZONING LIMITS TO 12 UNITS PER ACRE AND THE, THE, UM, THE CASE TO THE WEST.

UM, I LOOKED IT UP, IT HAD 16.6 ACRES ON THE SF SIX TRACT AND WAS LIMITED TO 45 UNITS, WHICH WAS JUST UNDER THREE UNITS PER ACRE.

UM, SO I'M NOT REAL SURE ABOUT DENYING ANY CHANGE HERE AT ALL, BUT I COULD LIVE WITH SF SIX WITH SIMILAR CONDITIONS OF THREE UNITS PER ACRE, BUT, UM, I GUESS WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION BEFORE THE WHOLE WITHDRAWN MY SUBSTITUTE.

OKAY.

SO I WOULD PROPOSE A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OF THREE UNITS PER ACRE, UM, ON THIS, UH, TRACT.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND? EXCUSE ME.

AND I HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES HERE.

DOES MR. WOOD, WELL, MR. WOODY? YEAH, NO, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE PROBABLY SHOULD VOTE ON IT UNLESS THE WHOLE COMMISSION IS FINE WITH THE WITHDRAWAL.

YEAH.

IF YOU NEED TO WITHDRAW ON THAT ONE, I WOULD AS WELL, BECAUSE I'M A MORE FOR THAT THREE ON THE, UH, ONE ACRE, IF THAT'S HOW, UH, SOUNDS LIKE FOR AN AGREEMENT, IT SHOULD BE WITHDRAWN.

OKAY.

NICE.

GOT A POINT OF INFORMATION QUESTION.

YES.

SO THE, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION FOR SF TWO VERSUS SF SIX.

SO IF THERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY WOULD GET SIMILAR NUMBER OF UNITS, IF THERE WERE ZONED S OF TWO, BUT IT REQUIRES A SUBDIVISION.

UM, SO THAT THEY'RE, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SEEKING SF SIX SO THAT THEY CAN, IT'S ALSO HIGHER DENSITY.

HEATHER, HEATHER IS ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ONE SF TWO LOT.

IF YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE IT STAY SF TWO, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE UNIT IF IT WAS SUBDIVIDED INTO SMALLER LOTS.

UM, THEN THERE COULD BE WHATEVER, SEVERAL SMALLER LOTS EACH WITH ONE UNIT, BUT WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF THE FRONTAGE? I DON'T HAVE THAT ON HAND.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR 7 62 FEET IS WHAT I'M HEARING.

SO ONE, OKAY.

YEAH.

I DID A ROUGH CALCULATION, SO I WAS FIGURING A, WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE, A LOT WITH, YEAH, BUT I DIDN'T GET A SECOND ON MY SUBSTITUTE ALL SECOND.

OKAY.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BANKLER FOR A C OH OF THREE UNITS FOR ACRE.

OKAY.

UM, DISCUSSION ON THAT GRAY.

SORRY.

I HAVE A, I HAVE A POINT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A POINT OF ORDER OR WHATEVER, BUT, UH, WE HAD A MOTION AND THEN A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WAS WITHDRAWN.

SO ARE WE BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION? ARE WE BACK TO THE MOTION? NO, BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER SUBSTITUTE WAS MADE.

OH, OKAY.

I SEE.

OKAY.

SO THE SUBSTITUTE BY GREENBERG SECONDED BY DINKLER FOR A STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH A CEO, UH, LIMIT TO LIMIT THREE, THREE UNITS PER ACRE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND, AND LET ME UNDERSTAND, THIS IS ONE ACRE, RIGHT? SO THEY WOULD, THE CEO WOULD LIMIT IT TO A TOTAL OF THREE UNITS.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, CAN, CAN WE LIKE, THE APPLICANT HAD A PRESENTATION, A SLIDE THAT HAD THE, UH, DIFFERENT SF UNITS AND I, CAN WE PULL THAT BACK UP? CAUSE I KIND OF LIKE TO SEE THAT AGAIN.

SURE.

AND MAYBE GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, SO, OKAY.

AND SO THE THREE TO FOUR DAYS, LIKE THAT'S, WOULD THAT BE AN ANTICIPATION OF SUBDIVIDING IT, IF IT WERE AS OF TWO, NO.

YOU STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH.

IF YOU STUCK WITH SF TWO, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT POINT? THERE'S A 50 FOOT MINIMUM LOT WITH, UM, I BELIEVE YOU SAID RON, SORRY, RON.

IF THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED TO OUR KEPT SF TWO AND RE SUBDIVIDED, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE TO FOUR, LOTS MAXIMUM, WHICH WOULD BE THREE TO FOUR UNITS MAXIMUM.

AND THAT WOULD BE UTILIZING FLAG LOTS UNDER THAT SCENARIO.

AND IF I COULD CLARIFY JUST ONE OTHER THING RIGHT QUICK, THIS PROPERTY IS TWO SQUARE FEET SHORT OF AN ACRE, A THREE UNIT LIMITATION LIMITS HIS PROPERTY TO TWO UNITS.

UM, I'D BE WILLING TO GO WITH THREE UNITS PERIOD

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OTHER THAN THREE UNITS PER ACRE.

OKAY.

SO THE MOTION WOULD THEN READ, UM, TO LIMIT IT WITH THE CEO OF THREE UNITS ON THIS PARCEL.

I MEAN, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT BENEFICIAL OVER JUST NOT REZONING IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SUBTRACT AND SUBDIVIDE YOU DO A SITE PLAN INSTEAD OF A SUBDIVISION.

RIGHT? MY CONCERN IS ON THE THREE UNITS PER ACRE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MORE EMOTIONS AT THREE, I WOULD, COULD SEE SIX TO EIGHT UNITS, BUT THREE IS JUST NOT GOING TO GET US TO OUR GOAL OF WHAT WE NEED TO GET TO.

IF I COULD CLARIFY, UH, THE INTENT OF THE MOTION AS RON WAS SAYING, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST SHY OF ONE ACRE.

SO IF YOU LIMITED IT TO THREE UNITS PER ACRE, YEAH, NO, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET THREE.

SO IF IT'S THREE ACRES ON THE OR THREE UNITS ON THE PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BE BETTER, I THINK.

YEAH.

THREE UNITS ON THE PARCEL PROPERTY.

YES.

SO I'D LIKE TO MODIFY THAT TO THREE UNITS ON THE PROPERTY, GOOD POINT, UM, COMMISSIONER KING.

AND THAT CHART WAS VERY HELPFUL THAT THAT WAS UP HERE EARLIER IN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I SAW SF THREE PRODUCING ALMOST, ALMOST, YOU KNOW, PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS AS, AS, AS BEING PROPOSED WITH SF SIX, EIGHT UNITS.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS TO GET YOU TO SF THREE, A SUBDIVISION, BUT YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO MAKE, MAKE ROOM FOR FOLKS MOVING HERE.

AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SUPPLY IS PART OF THE EQUATION HERE, BUT SUPPLY IS NOT THE ONLY PART OF THE EQUATION HERE.

UH, THERE'S A RECENT ARTICLE THAT THIS PLAN, SOMEONE MENTIONED, THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THE PLANT, THAT TESLA PLAN IS JUST A BARELY FIVE MILES FROM HERE.

AND THERE WAS A RECENT STORY, UH, IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT SAID THAT THE HOUSING PRICES IN THIS AREA HAVE GONE UP 45% FROM 2020, SINCE 20, 20 10% ABOVE THE REST OF THE AUSTIN MSA.

SO WHAT'S DRIVING THESE HOUSING PRICE INCREASES ARE THE, THE DEMAND IS INCREASING PEOPLE MOVING HERE, MAKING HIGHER INCOMES, PULLING UP THESE HOUSING PRICES.

THE MARKET IS GOING TO SEEK THE HIGHEST PRICE THEY CAN GET FOR HOUSING.

AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE EQUATION.

AND SO WE, WE SIN, IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETIMES WE JUST IGNORE THAT PART OF THE EQUATION OR, AND SOMETIMES IT SEEMS LIKE WE IGNORE THE, THE EFFECT ON EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO I TRY TO SEEK A BALANCE THAT GIVES US MORE FITS IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND ALSO FITS IN WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO DO TO ME.

AND I AGREE, THIS IS NOT THIS THE STREET ROGER LANE IS NOT UP FOR ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS, MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE NEAR OR THE LONG-TERM ACCORDING TO STAFF.

AND THAT CONCERNS ME GREATLY.

YOU KNOW, I DID THE GOOGLE MAP.

I WENT DOWN, I DROVE DOWN THAT, THAT STREET ROGERS LANE VIRTUALLY THERE IN IT, IT IS, IT IS VERY KIND OF SCARY THERE WITH JUST ONE VEHICLE.

AND IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S ON GOOGLE THERE, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A BICYCLE IS BEHIND THE CAR.

THAT'S TAKING THE PICTURE FOR THE GOOGLE THERE.

AND SO THEY HAD TO MOVE AROUND TO GET THE BICYCLE, THE BICYCLE TO HAVE TO GET OFF THE ROAD.

SO, SO I I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

I, I TRY TO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEEK SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN GET AT, YOU KNOW, EIGHT UNITS ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY TO GET US, YOU KNOW, MORE UNITS, THEREFORE SUPPLY, BUT IN THIS, IN A WAY THAT FITS IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FITS IN BETTER WITH EXISTING ZONING.

AND, AND IN MY OPINION WOULD NOT PRECIPITATE HIGHER HOUSING PRICES AS MUCH AS THE REQUESTED ZONING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND I SAW COMMISSIONER WOODY AND CHER BREWER.

RAMIREZ I'LL HAVE COMMISSIONER WOODY GO FIRST BECAUSE HE HASN'T SPOKEN.

YEAH.

UM, CONCERNING ABOUT THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL WAS A NOPE, NO SIDEWALKS.

SO, UM, THE DEVELOPER MENTIONED THAT THE GREEN LINE, YOU KNOW, WAS CLOSE TO THE AREA, BUT THE ONLY THING THAT'S CLOSE TO THERE IS LIKE, AH, THERE'S BIKE LANES, BUT THE SIDEWALK DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY FROM THAT ROGER'S LANE ALL THE WAY TO THAT GREEN LINE.

SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF CONCERNING TO ME.

AND, UM, IT'S JUST THAT, THAT ROAD, UH, THE ROGER'S LANE IT'S JUST TO ME, DOESN'T LOOK ME, IT DOESN'T LOOK SAFE AT ALL IN ORDER TO PUT OR HOUSING LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

IT'S LIKE AN, IT'S LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S KIND OF A BIT FORGOTTEN THEN IT'S JUST LIKE, OH, LET'S JUST DO SOMETHING HERE.

UH, THAT WORRIES ME.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN I'LL GO TO CHAIR, BERBER RAMIREZ.

AND THEN, UM, I THINK, SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF WAYS TO SLOW DOWN VEHICLES.

THERE'S VERTICAL DEFLECTION, LIKE SPEED BUMPS THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT.

AND THEN THERE'S HORIZONTAL DEFLECTION.

SO YOU MAY SEE STREETS LIKE, UM, I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S CALLED A CHICANE WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO, YOU HAVE TO MAKE CURVES.

AND THE

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NARROWNESS OF THIS STREET IS ACTUALLY SAFER THAN A WIDER STREET BECAUSE IT FORCES YOU TO SLOW DOWN.

NOW I KNOW THAT A BUS IS 11 FEET WIDE AND A 15 FOOT STREET MEANS THAT YES, IF YOU WANT CARS TO PASS, YOU HAVE TO STOP.

WHICH MEANS IT SLOWS YOU DOWN AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING GOOD MONEY TO GET STREET, A SPEED BUMPS ON THEIR STREETS TO SLOW YOU DOWN.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY, THIS IS A SAFER CONDITION THAN A WIDER STREET THAT WOULD LET YOU GO FASTER ON IT.

UM, I ALSO REALLY LIKE THE LOOP PART OF IT SO THAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S NOT JUST ONE WAY.

AND I SEE THAT MR. GOLDEN IS ON.

AND MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT, RIGHT.

I SAW THAT MANY OF THE STREETS, MANY OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE BETWEEN ROGERS LANE AND ROGERS LOOP, THEY HAVE DRIVEWAYS ON BOTH SIDES.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO RESTRICT MOVEMENT IN AND OUT, HAVE AN INGRESS AND EGRESS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS THOUGHT ABOUT? UM, I ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FIRE HAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAYING THIS IS OKAY.

IS THERE A TURNAROUND WHERE I KNOW MANY, I MEAN, I SAW THAT THERE WAS LIKE A DOG LEG.

DOES THAT ALLOW THE FIRETRUCK TO TURN AROUND? UM, THERE'S JUST SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

UM, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT MS. HASI SAID ABOUT DEVELOPMENT BRINGS, UH, INVESTMENT INTO AN AREA.

AND MY QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER IS, IS THERE GOING TO BE SERVED LIKE STAFF MEMBER? IS THERE GOING TO BE SIDEWALKS ON THE FRONTAGE? ARE THEY GOING TO BE BUILDING SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY ALONG THE 60 FEET OR WHATEVER IT IS SO THAT THEY'LL HAVE AT LEAST THAT FIRST SECTION DONE? UM, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH MY HEAD.

I DO THINK THAT THREE IS TOO FEW.

SO IF WE CAN, MAYBE I LIKED, UH, MISSED COMMISSIONER SMITH'S SUGGESTION OF LIKE CAPPING IT AT SEVEN OR CAPPING AT AN EIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE I AM.

SORRY.

I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT, THEN MAYBE STAFF CAN ANSWER A COUPLE OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND GOLDEN B, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND? SURE.

OR JUST MAKE SURE I JUST LIKED THE, I LIKED THE WAY IT LOOKS ON THE SCREEN.

UM, YEAH, I CAN TRY AND ANSWER A COUPLE OF THOSE.

UM, SO AS FAR AS, UH, SEPARATING ROGERS LOOP AND ROGERS LANE INTO AN EGRESS AND INGRESS, UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.

UM, I, IT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE TO STUDY WITH, UH, AN NTA OR A SMALL AREA STUDY.

UM, THERE'S NOTHING CURRENTLY, UM, IN THE WORKS, AS FAR AS THAT TYPE OF STUDY IS CONCERNED RIGHT NOW.

UM, JUST FOR THE SPLIT AND TRENDS, UM, UH, REGARDING SIDEWALKS, I THINK YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SIDEWALKS.

SO THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BUILD OUT SIDEWALKS, AT LEAST FOR THEIR FRONTAGE.

UM, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF, OF HOMES, UM, THEY MAY BE SUBJECT TO, UH, EITHER MITIGATION, BUT IF NOT MITIGATION, THEN CERTAINLY THE STREET IMPACT FEE, UM, AT THE TIME OF THE BUILDING PERMIT, WHICH COULD ALSO BE USED, UH, FOR SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, AND THEN I THINK I HEARD A QUESTION ABOUT FIRE, A FIRE REVIEW, FIRE ACCESS.

UM, I, I'M NOT SURE, UH, IN REGARDS TO IF THIS, IF THESE WERE JUST SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING PERMITS, UM, BUT IF THIS WERE A SITE PLAN, THERE WOULD BE A FIRE AFD REVIEW OF THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, COMMISSIONER BRAY.

YEAH.

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