Dec 01, 2021 Environmental Commission

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

AND WE'VE GOT ONE MORE.

DANIEL YANNIS.

UH, I'M DONE YANNIS AND I'M ALSO HERE WITH, WELL, THEY HAD PEOPLE ORGANIZED IN DEFENSE OF EARTH AND, UH, RESOURCES AND, UM, UH, LIKE PAUL SAID, UH, THE COLORADO RIVER CONSERVANCY IS A VERY EXCITING PROJECT FOR US, A LONG, UH, LONG AWAITED PROJECT TO BRING, UH, UH, FOCUS TO THAT PART OF THE RIVER, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR SO LONG.

I WANT TO, UH, TELL YOU THAT, UH, AS, AS WE HAVE GONE OUT THERE AND TALKED TO PEOPLE, UM, A LOT OF THE WILDLIFE IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THE COMING DEVELOPMENT AND PARTICULARLY TESLA AND ENDEAVOR AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE.

UM, UH, SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, THAT, UH, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US, LIKE, LIKE, UH, PAUL MENTIONED ABOUT THAT EAGLE'S

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NEST THAT EAGLE'S NEST 15 YEARS AGO WAS WEST OF, OF, UM, OF THE MONTOPOLIS BRIDGE.

AND SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF, OF HOW, HOW FAR THE WILDLIFE IS BEING PUSHED AND THE COLORADO RIVER, AS IT GOES THROUGH, AUSTIN IS A CORRIDOR FOR WILDLIFE GOING THROUGH THIS AREA.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ENSURE THAT THAT WILDLIFE PROTECTION IS PART OF OUR WHOLE ECO PROTECTION, UH, PACKAGE.

SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME AND YOUR SERVICE.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THEM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, COMMISSIONERS ONE, A APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND ACTION.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND ACTION]

WHEN YOU TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2021 ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONER, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I MOVE TO APPROVE.

THIS IS RAINBIRD.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND PRIMER? ANY EDITS CHANGES? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AND I SEE NINE.

OH, SO DID THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[2.a. Update on amendments to City Code section 2.1 regarding rules for conducting remote/hybrid Board and Commission meetings—Kaela Champlin, Environmental Program Coordinator, Watershed Protection Department (5 minutes)]

ITEM TWO, A UPDATE ON AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CODE, SECTION TWO, ONE REGARDING RULES FOR CONDUCTING REMOTE HYBRID BOARDS OF COMMISSION MEETING.

COME ON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD EVENING.

ALO GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS KAYLA CHAMPLIN WATERSHED PROTECTION.

SO LAST MONTH COUNCIL APPROVED SEMINARIANS TO CITY CODE SECTION 2.1, WHICH IS THE SECTION FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

AND THIS, UM, THE AMENDMENTS ARE TO ALLOW US SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH OUR HYBRID MEETINGS.

UM, SO THE NEW REQUIREMENTS, UH, OR THE NEW AMENDMENTS WILL REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A QUORUM TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT MEETINGS.

SO THIS WILL MEAN THAT ONLY THE CHAIR OR THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL NEED TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THE MEETINGS, UM, HERE AT CITY HALL, UM, FOR THE, AND THAT WILL BE FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING, UM, STAFF, MYSELF AND LIZ JOHNSON, AND WE'LL STILL BE ATTENDING IN PERSON ON TO HELP MANAGE THE MEETING HERE.

UM, AND THESE CODE MEN'S MINTS WILL BE EFFECTIVE BEGINNING FEBRUARY 28TH OF NEXT YEAR.

UM, MY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, RESIDENTS WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, SO THAT WILL HOPEFULLY INCREASE PARTICIPATION AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEND OUT DOODLE POLLS, UM, TO FIND OUT HOW YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE MEETINGS SO WE CAN PREPARE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE STILL SOCIALLY DISTANCING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TRACKING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH COVID, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING EVERYONE SAFE.

UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

BUT THAT'S STILL, UM, BEING WORKED OUT.

HELLO.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, JUST ALONG THOSE LINES, I, I DID WATCH THE, THE MEETING LAST NIGHT AND, AND, UH, THERE WAS, UH, QUITE A BIT, QUITE A BIT OF SURPRISE ABOUT WHERE, UH, SOME OF THE BOARDS, UH, COMMISSIONS WILL, UH, BE LOCATED, UH, AT A FUTURE DATE, I THINK, UM, PERHAPS IN MARCH OF NEXT YEAR.

AND, UM, I WONDERED IF, UH, I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD BE LOCATED ELSE WHERE, AND I JUST WONDERING IF YOU'D KNOW, UH, WHERE THAT WOULD, WOULD BE SO THAT, UM, MAYBE, UH, WE WANT ME TO SURPRISE.

SURE.

SO, UM, TWO THINGS.

SO WE RECEIVED A MEMO FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, I THINK ABOUT A MONTH AGO, UM, SAYING THAT ALL OF LAND USE COMMISSIONS WOULD BE MOVED OVER TO THE NEW PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER ON, UH, UM, I'M SORRY.

IT WAS FORGET THE ROAD NAMED PHILOMENA DELCO DRIVE, I THINK IS WHERE IT IS BEHIND THE HIGHLAND MALL, OLD HIGHLAND MALL LOCATION.

UM, AND THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN SOMETIME IN THE SPRING, EARLY SPRING OR NEXT YEAR, PROBABLY IN THE MARCH TIMEFRAME.

UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER SPEAKING WITH CITY HALL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE OVER THERE.

AND, AND, UM, SINCE THEN THERE WAS A JOINT MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COMMISSION.

I'M SORRY, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WAS ON MONDAY NIGHT, UM, TO DISCUSS THE RELOCATION OF THE LAND USE COMMISSIONS FROM CITY HALL TO THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT CENTER.

UM, THEY, THOSE THREE BOARDS ARE PLANNING, UM, OR HAVE PROPOSED BYLAW REVISIONS THAT WOULD MAKE CITY HALL, THE PERMANENT MEANING LOCATION FOR THOSE MEETINGS.

UM, THE, UH, PROPOSED CHANGES TO THOSE BYLAWS WILL NEXT BE CONSIDERED BY THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.

AND I THINK THE DATE THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED IS DECEMBER 15TH,

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UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AND WATCH THE RECORDING FROM THAT MEETING SO THAT YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED THERE.

AND THEN, UM, FOLLOW UP WITH US IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I, I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT NUMBER ONE, UM, NOBODY WHO IS GOING TO BE, UH, RELOCATED IN NO COMMISSIONER THAT WAS, WOULD BE RELOCATED TO THE, UH, THE NEW BUILDING, UM, WAS IN FAVOR OF THE IDEA OR SAW IT AS A GOOD MOVE, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS INVOLVING THE LONG DISTANCE, UH, AWAY FROM THE CENTER OF THE CITY, UM, SAFETY CONCERNS, UH, AND, AND, AND OTHER, UH, ADDITIONAL REASONS I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO.

BUT, UM, AND IT SEEMED AS THOUGH IT WAS A FAIT ACCOMPLI THAT, UM, NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAID ABOUT IT, THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.

AND, UH, THAT, THAT JUST CONCERNS ME.

AND I, UM, I HOPE THAT THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF, UM, WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO DECIDE WHERE WE WILL BE, UH, NEXT AND THAT, UM, THERE'LL BE SUFFICIENT TIME, UH, THAT IT'S DONE IN A, IN A FAIR AND EQUITABLE WAY.

UM, AND W WE WILL BE KEEPING AN EYE ON THINGS AND SEEING HOW THAT DISCUSSION PROGRESSES AFTER IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.

AND IF, UM, ONCE THE COMMITTEE, THE REST OF THE COMMISSION HAS HAD A CHANCE TO WATCH THE VIDEO, UM, WE'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, A MORE IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION IF YOU WISH, UM, POSTED WHEN WE'RE POSTED.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, KEN, LET ME GET THE STRAIGHT, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS PREVIOUSLY, MORE OR LESS.

EXCEPT FOR, WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE PRESIDING OFFICER ATTEND HERE.

AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO JUST SHOW UP HERE, THEY'RE WELCOME TO, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU COULD.

YOU STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO ATTEND PERSON IF YOU WISH WE WILL STILL WANT TO KIND OF MONITOR AND COORDINATE WHO WILL ATTEND IN PERSON SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SAFELY SOCIALLY DISTANCE, UM, AND NOT MAY CHANGE AS YOU KNOW, THINGS DO, UM, WITH COVID RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, I'LL, WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THAT AND I'LL BE SENDING OUT A SURVEY FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, HERE SHORTLY.

GREAT.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OFFICERS NEED TO BE PRESENT ON JUST ONE.

[3.a. Presentation on changes to improve issues with erosion-sedimentation controls in the Zilker/Barton Hills neighborhood—David Chapman, Environmental Compliance Supervisor, Development Services Department (30 minutes)]

UH, LET'S GO TO THREE ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION PRESENTATION ON CHANGES TO IMPROVE ISSUES WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL SEDIMENTATION CONTROLS IN THE ZILKER BARTON NEIGHBORHOOD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE, UM, DSD HERE, MR. CHAPMAN, COME THROUGH ON BOTH YOUR NAMES, PLEASE, IF Y'ALL WANT, UH, RICK HOLLOWAY, I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH DSD OVER CONSTRUCTION, ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTIONS.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING US COME HERE TONIGHT AND GIVE YOU THESE TWO PRESENTATIONS TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT DSU DSD IS DOING FOR THE CITY.

UH, AND THEY GIVING YOU THESE UPDATES.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS DAVID CHAPMAN, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN DIVISION MANAGER FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, INSPECTIONS, WHICH ENTAILS SOUND ENFORCEMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT, COMMERCIAL, AND RESIDENTIAL TREE AND ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTIONS, AND ALSO UST UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS.

UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.

UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND DISCUSS ENVIRONMENTAL SECTION WITH YOU, UM, TODAY.

UH, SLIDE TWO, SORRY, TODAY, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UH, EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROLS AND THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE HAVE HAPPENING WITHIN OUR PROGRAM.

UM, WE'LL ALSO DISCUSS, UH, A FEW DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONTROLS.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT INSPECTIONS AND ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS LAST YEAR, AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE A RESOURCE AND REFERENCE PAGE AT THE END.

ALSO HAVE, UH, OTHER TYPES OF CONTROLS ON THE INTERIOR PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITE, UH, AND ON LARGER CONSTRUCTION SITES, YOU'LL SEE DETENTION, PONDS, UH, RAIN GARDENS, WATER, QUALITY PONDS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO CAPTURE MORE WATER FLOW AND CLEAN IT, MAKE THE WATER QUALITY, UH, FOR BEFORE IT RUNS OFF TO THE SITE.

UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK BACKGROUND, EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROLS ARE DESIGNED TO PREVENT AND REDUCE THE MOVEMENT OF SEDIMENT FROM ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITES DURING CONSTRUCTION WITH MAN-MADE STRUCTURES OR LAND MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES, AND ALSO NATURAL PROCESS, RIGHT? VEGETATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, BEING ALREADY ESTABLISHED, UH, THE MAIN CONTROLS ARE AS ARE INSTALLED ALONG THE PERIMETER, THE OUTSIDE OF, OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.

AND THEN YOU

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UM, DEPENDING ON THE SITE, UM, ONE TYPE OF CONTROL IS NOT ALWAYS GOING TO REMOVE THE SEDIMENT FROM THE SITE, DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S INSTALLED IS ALSO ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE RUN INTO A LOT OF TIMES.

AND SO WE'RE OUT THERE INSPECTING THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE CONTROLS, ALL THE PERIMETER CONTROLS, AND SOMETIMES EVEN THE INTERIOR CONTROLS AND THEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS CONTRACTORS TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE UPDATED, MAINTAINED, MAINTAIN FREQUENTLY, TRYING TO GET THEM TO MAINTAIN THEM ON A DAILY BASIS, UM, AND CHECKING THEM AFTER EACH RAIN EVENT, FOR SURE ON THEIR SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

SO THAT WHEN WE COME OUT AFTER A RAIN EVENT, THEY'RE ALREADY MAINTAINED.

UH, WE'RE ALSO MEETING MY STAFF AND MYSELF ARE MEETING ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

WE'RE GOING OVER TRAINING ITEMS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTROLS, WE'RE MEETING WITH, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, PROVIDERS OF THOSE CONTROLS AND GOING OVER THEIR CONTROLS.

UH, WE'RE GOING OUT AND GETTING OUR OUR EXTRA TRAINING, UH, SO THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR CERTIFICATIONS UP, UH, THAT, THAT ALLOW US TO LOOK AT THE CONTROLS AND ALSO LOOK AT THE TREES.

OKAY, LET'S LET I FEEL.

AREN'T AWARE.

WE USE THE LCRA HYDRO MAT A LOT WHEN WE KNOW A RAIN EVENTS ABOUT TO OCCUR IN AUSTIN.

WE'LL CHECK THAT HYDRO MAT AS THAT RAIN EVENT IS OCCURRING.

SEE WHAT OUR RAIN TOTALS ARE ACROSS THE CITY AND IN CERTAIN POCKETS OF THE CITY.

AND THEN BY THE TOTALS THAT WE GET FROM THERE, WE CAN DETERMINE IF WE HAD A TWO-YEAR RAIN EVENT OR WHAT SIZE OF RAIN EVENT WE'VE HAD.

UM, OUR CONTROLS ARE ONLY DESIGNED TO CAPTURE A TWO YEAR RAIN EVENT.

WE CAN HAVE A TWO YEAR RAIN EVENT AND 15 MINUTES AS Y'ALL HAVE PROBABLY SEEN.

UM, MOST RECENTLY WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF STORMS THAT HAVE REACHED THOSE TOTALS, AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE POCKET OF TOWN THAT, THAT STORM DROPS, THAT AMOUNT OF RAIN.

UM, THE RAINS ARE STARTING TO GET A HEAVIER IN POCKETS.

AND SO WE'RE SEEING THOSE TOTALS RISE, UH, ACROSS TOWN AND, AND IT'S CAUSING ISSUES WITH THE CONTROLS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT ON THE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS, THE COMMERCIAL SITES, MAINLY LARGER HOME SITES THAT WE'RE PRINTING INTERIOR CONTROLS IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE EXTERIOR CONTROLS CAN HANDLE THAT EXTRA RAIN EVENT TO NEXT LIGHT.

UH, THERE'S THREE MAIN TYPES OF EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROLS THAT THE CITY KIND OF STANDARDLY USES.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN USED FOR MANY YEARS.

IT'S BEEN IN THE CRITERIA MANUALS AND THE STANDARD SPECS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND THOSE ARE MOST STOCK, UH, SEDIMENT OR A SILT FENCE.

UH, AND THEN TRIANGULAR SEDIMENT FILTER DYKE NEXT LEG, UH, MOST LIKE AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MOLD WORKS REALLY GOOD IN A LOT OF CASES.

UH, IT IT'S ON THE GROUND.

IT'S, UH, STAKED IN FOUR FEET ON CENTER, UH, OPPOSITE SIDES SO THAT IT DOESN'T FLOAT AWAY.

UH, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THEY'LL MOVE THESE TO GET ONTO THE SMALLER CONSTRUCTION SITES.

UH, THERE'S ACCESS PROBLEMS WITH RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

UH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FRONTAGE TO THE STREET.

AND SO THEY'LL RUN THESE OVER, THEY'LL FLATTEN THEM OUT, UH, AND WE HAVE TO GO IN, WE HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOT TO REPLACE THEM.

THESE ARE NOT CHEAP, UH, CHEAP CONTROL.

SO IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE FOR THE HOME BUILDERS.

UH, AND LIKE I SAID, EVERY DELIVERY THAT THEY HAVE, THEY PRETTY MUCH GO ROUTE OVER THE TOP OF THESE CONTROLS.

THERE ARE

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SHORTER CONTROL.

UM, THEY, THEY GET DAMAGED QUITE A BIT, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT THERE ON THE SITES.

THANKS.

SO FENCE, SO FENCE IS ONE OF THE CONTROLS THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

UH, IT'S A GREAT CONTROL.

IT'S A GREAT PERIMETER CONTROL.

IT DOES HAVE SOME HICCUPS, UM, ON THE BACKSIDE, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, SILT FENCE HAS TO BE TRENCHED IN.

IT HAS THAT, UH, FABRIC MATERIAL ON THE BOTTOM THAT HAS TO BE TRENCHED IN SO THAT THE WATER DOESN'T JUST FLOW UNDERNEATH.

WHEN YOU DO THAT TRENCHING, YOU DISTURB THE DIRT BEHIND THE SILT FENCE.

SO WHEN A RAIN EVENT COMES, THE WATER FLOWS THROUGH THE SILT FENCE, THE DIRT ON THE BACKSIDE.

IF YOU GET ANY TURBULENCE, IF YOU GET ANY WATER MOVEMENT BACK THERE, IT WILL FLOAT THAT SEDIMENT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SILT FENCE.

SO WE SEE THAT QUITE A BIT.

WE SEE SOME HOLES IN THE SILT FENCE.

WE SEE WHERE THEY DON'T TIE IT IN TO THE CONCRETE STRUCTURES, THE CONCRETE, UH, DRIVEWAY APPROACHES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SOMETIMES THEY DON'T TIE THOSE IN.

SO WE'RE OUT THERE MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THOSE REPAIRS, ANY, ANY RIPS, ANY PLACES WHERE THEY DON'T OVERLAP THE FABRIC, WE'RE GIVING THEM A CHANCE TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS.

THANKS THAT TRIANGULAR SEDIMENT, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD CONTROL ALONG ASPHALT CONCRETE AREAS.

UM, THE PROBLEM THAT YOU SEE A LOT OF TIMES IS, IS THEY DON'T WEIGH IT DOWN THE FLAT, THERE'S A FLAT MATERIAL THAT STICKS OUT FROM IT ON THE UPSTREAM SIDE.

AND IF THEY DON'T WEIGH THAT DOWN, IT TENDS TO FLOAT, UH, OR PUSHUP AND SEDIMENT JUST RUNS RIGHT UNDERNEATH.

UH, THEY'RE ALSO NOT OVERLAPPING THESE AT TIMES ARE NOT CONNECTING THESE TWO, THE OTHER PERIMETER CONTROLS IN THE PROPER FASHION.

SO WE'RE OUT THERE GIVING THEM NOTICES, VIOLATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THOSE ISSUES TOO.

NEXT SLIDE WE'VE RECENTLY, UH, JOINED UP WITH SOME OF THE BUILDERS, SOME OF THE SUPPLIERS, UM, ALSO, SO JUST REACHING OUT TO SOME OF OUR, UH, SISTER CITIES, TRYING TO SEE OTHER TYPES OF CONTROLS, UH, THAT THEY MAY BE USING.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONTROLS.

TRAVIS COUNTY HAS SOME DIFFERENT CONTROLS THAN WHAT WE APPROVED HAVE APPROVED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN ALSO.

SO WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE USING, UH, WHEN IT'S NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION IN JUST TO THE PICTURES THAT YOU'LL SEE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CONTROLS THAT ARE BEING USED IN OTHER PLACES.

THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS A, WHAT WE CALL A DURAL WATTLE.

IT'S A SPONGY MATERIAL.

THAT'S WRAPPED WITH A SILT FENCE MATERIAL, A SILT FENCE FABRIC, AND YOU CAN BASICALLY DRIVE OVER THE TOP OF IT AND IT POPS RIGHT BACK UP LIKE A SPONGE.

SO WE, THIS PICTURE IS ACTUALLY OUT IN AUSTIN COLONY.

WE PUT THESE IN TO PILOT THEM TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD DO DURING HOME BUILDING.

UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT.

AND WHEN WE GET FURTHER ALONG AND IF THEY THEY'RE WORKING BETTER, WE'RE GONNA SUBMIT THAT WITH WATERSHEDS, UH, ASSISTANCE AND RUN IT THROUGH ALL THE CHANNELS TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE.

UH, IT, IT SEEMS TO WORK REALLY GOOD WHERE WE'RE HAVING HOME BUILDERS DELIVER A LOT OF MATERIAL.

LIKE I SAID, IT, IT SPRINGS RIGHT BACK UP.

IT WORKS REALLY, REALLY WELL, UH, WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC HAPPENING IN AND AROUND IT.

SO THE ONE HINDRANCE FOR IT IS, IS IT'S NOT AS BIG AS A MOLD SOCK.

IT'S A FIVE AND A HALF INCHES TALL ONLY.

SO IT'S NOT AS TALL AS THE SILT FENCE.

AND IT'S NOT AS TALL AS AN EIGHT INCH OR 12 INCH MOLD SLAB.

UM, THE OTHER PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON.

WE HAD SILT FENCE UP IN THAT AREA.

IT WAS GETTING DAMAGED QUITE A BIT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MATERIALS THAT THEY WERE HAVING DROPPED OFF AT THE SITE.

SO WE CAME IN AND CUT BACK FOUR INCHES BEHIND THE CURB, INSTALLED THE ROCK.

WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF THE ROCK KEEPS SOME OF THE SEDIMENT FROM DISCHARGING THE SITE.

UM, IT IS A PILOT, LIKE I SAID,

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AND WE'RE JUST TRYING SOME NEW IDEAS, TRYING SOME NEW, INNOVATIVE THINGS OUT THERE.

IF WE GET THOSE FURTHER ALONG, WE'LL BRING THEM TO YOU NEXT LIT, UH, AS Y'ALL KNOW, MY SECTION ALSO LOOKS AT TREES.

SO EVERY TREE INSPECTION OUT THERE, UH, EVERY BUILDING PERMIT THAT HAS A PROTECTED TREE OR HERITAGE TREE ON IT, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THOSE INSPECTIONS AT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE'RE INSPECTING FOR EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROLS.

UM, SO THOSE INSPECTORS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AND ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, ANY EIGHT INCH AND GREATER TREES WE'RE INSPECTING AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING PROTECTED ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.

WE'RE ALSO MEETING WITH THE ARBORIST QUITE A BIT AND TALKING, WE HELD A, A ARBORIST TRAINING CLASS, ACTUALLY AT THE PDC FOR OUR STAFF.

AND THEN WE ALSO INVITED WATERSHED AND OTHER DSD MEMBERS THAT WANTED TO GET THE TRAINING, UH, TO COME IN.

AND, UH, HOPEFULLY SOON WE'LL HAVE A FEW TAKING THE TEST TO GET THEIR ARBORIST CERTIFICATION NEXT LAP.

UH, AS I SAID, WE, WE CONTINUE TO INSPECT COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL SITES.

YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS HAVE GROWN SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE.

UH, WE, WE NOW HAVE, UH, 1,201 RESIDENTIAL SITES RIGHT NOW, ACTIVELY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE HAVE ABOUT 1,285 COMMERCIAL SITES UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE TRYING TO INSPECT THOSE MONTHLY, HAD ABOUT 80%.

UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING TO ALL OF THEM RIGHT NOW, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO HOPEFULLY ONE DAY GET TO ALL THE ROUTINE INSPECTIONS, UM, MONTHLY.

WE WANT TO DO THOSE INSPECTIONS MONTHLY.

UH, ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE, UM, LOOKING AT THE CALLED INSPECTIONS ON AVERAGE, ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE FOR THIS LAST YEAR, WE, WE AVERAGED 550, UH, RESIDENTIAL TREE INSPECTIONS A MONTH.

AND THEN WE AVERAGED ABOUT 801 EBV, THOSE MONTHLY INSPECTIONS THAT I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO, UH, WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 801 ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

UH, THAT WAS UP FROM LAST TIME THAT I MET WITH Y'ALL 492 INSPECTIONS, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A LOT BETTER THAN WHERE WE WERE, UH, FROM, FROM A YEAR AGO.

I THINK IT WAS, OR AROUND A YEAR AGO, UH, ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, OUR 3, 1, 1 COMPLAINTS HAVE GONE DOWN 117 FROM LAST YEAR.

WE'RE AT 496.

SO I FEEL LIKE WE'VE MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'RE, WE'RE STILL NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION NOW.

UM, AND WE'RE STILL GETTING EMAIL COMPLAINTS THAT AREN'T GOING THROUGH.

THE THREE, ONE, ONE SYSTEM WE'RE STILL GETTING PHONE CALLS, UH, W WE'RE STILL GETTING QUESTIONS FROM DEVELOPERS ON WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WHEN, WHEN THINGS HAPPEN.

UM, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL CALL US UP FOR CONSULTATION.

HEY, THIS HAPPENED, WE NEED, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? UH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE EXTRA DUTIES THAT, UH, AREN'T REALLY CAPTURED, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE OVERALL PROGRAM.

UH, ON TOP OF THAT, WE DO KEEP A LIST.

EACH INSPECTOR KEEPS A LIST OF HOTSPOTS AND PROBLEM SITES THAT THEY'RE, UH, DEALING WITH.

AND IF THEY CONTINUALLY HAVE A SPOT THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH, WE KEEP IT ON A HOTSPOT LIST FOR OUR ENFORCEMENT STAFF.

SO ANYTIME A WEATHER EVENT COMES IN, WE KNOW A LARGER WEATHER WEATHER EVENT IS GOING TO OCCUR.

WE'LL TRY TO GET AN INSPECTOR OUT THERE PRIOR TO THE WEATHER EVENT.

AND THEN IF WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT, WHEN ONE POPS UP OUT OF THE BLUE ON US, WE'LL GET BY THERE AS SOON AS WE'RE WORKING.

AND AS SOON AS WE CAN GET OUT TO THAT SITE, BUT THOSE ARE HIGHER PRIORITY THAN JUST OUR REGULAR ROUTINE INSPECTIONS.

NEXT, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE WERE TASKED WITH, UH, ENFORCEMENT 25, 1, 4 41.

UH, I HAVE A STAFF THAT, UH, DEALS WITH JUST ENFORCEMENT.

THERE'S, THERE'S TWO, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON HIRING A THIRD ONE JUST TO HANDLE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, UH, AND ALSO ASSIST US WITH THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD,

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UH, COMPLAINTS.

SO THAT PERSON IS GOING TO BE TRA BASICALLY TASKED WITH RESIDENTIAL TREE AND ENVIRONMENTAL CASES AND ASSISTING US WITH ANY NON-COMPLIANCE THAT WE HAVE IN THE ENTIRE CITY FOR RESIDENTIAL, UH, THAT HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE POSTED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

UH, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO RECLASS A POSITION, AND THAT'S WHY IT HASN'T POSTED YET.

UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ALSO, WE, WHEN WE GO TO A SITE, INITIALLY, WE ISSUE A VERBAL WARNING.

WE, WE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER, WE GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE.

WE EDUCATE THEM ON WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THESE CONTROLS ARE, WHY WE'RE OUT THERE TRYING TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT, TRYING TO PROTECT THE CRITICAL FEATURES THAT MAY BE AROUND THE SITE, THE CREEKS IN THE BACK, THE, THE SEEPS, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL OF THE WETLANDS, ALL, EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER WITH THE RIVER, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THAT, KEEP THE SEDIMENT OUT OF THERE AS WELL AS WE CAN.

WE CAN'T BE ON THE SITES EVERY DAY TO BE THE ENFORCER EVERY DAY, BUT WE ARE EDUCATING AND TRYING TO GET THEM TO CHECK IT DAILY AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CONTROLS ARE IN PLACE.

UM, IF FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE CONTINUAL ISSUES OUT THERE WE'LL ISSUE A WRITTEN VIOLATION.

UH, AND BASICALLY BEFORE WE GO TO THE CITATION, WE ISSUE A STOP WORK ORDER MOST OF THE TIME, UM, UNLESS IT'S AN EGREGIOUS OFFENSE WHERE THEY'RE JUST DISCHARGING CONCRETE RIGHT INTO AN INLET, WELL, THEN WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO, OR, OR INTO THE LAKE, OR, YOU KNOW, DISCHARGING DIRTY WATER INTO BARTON SPRINGS.

UM, A FEW YEARS AGO, Y'ALL SAW THE SPILL WHERE WE HAD THE, THE PLUME AND ZILKER A POOL, AND IT SHUT THE POOL DOWN DURING CHRISTMAS TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT, BUT WE, WE FOUND A, UM, A SITE, A HOME SITE THAT WAS DRILLING, AND BASICALLY THEY HIT A VOID THAT VOID WAS CONNECTED TO THE SPRINGS.

AND WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO FILL THAT VOID, THEY WERE DUMPING THAT MATERIAL INTO THE SPRINGS.

SO WE ISSUED A CITATION FOR THAT.

WE TOOK THEM TO COURT.

UH, THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH COURT AND I THINK THEY EVEN PAID THE FINE FOR A DISCHARGE OF POLLUTANTS.

SO, UH, WE, WE ARE OUT THERE DOING THAT ON A DAILY BASIS.

LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW, I HAVE TOO SOON.

WE'LL HAVE A THIRD ONE TO TAKE CARE OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

UM, JUST SOME QUICK NUMBERS.

WE, WE DID ISSUE A 96.

WELL, WE, YEAH, 97, 9,617 RESIDENTIAL INSPECTIONS ENDED UP WITH A VERBAL WARNING THIS LAST YEAR.

UM, AND THEN, WHICH WAS ABOUT 12% OF THE, THE TOTAL RESIDENTIAL INSPECTIONS THAT WE HAD, WE HAD A 1.4% WERE WRITTEN WARNINGS.

0.2% WERE STOPPED, WORK ORDERS, AND THEN 0.03% WERE CITATIONS.

SO MOST OF OUR CASES ARE VERBAL WARNINGS.

THE GOAL IS TO EDUCATE THE GOAL IS TO CHANGE A CULTURE.

UH, AS Y'ALL KNOW, WHEN WE STARTED THIS IN 2016, THERE WERE NO CONTROLS ON RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE IT BETTER THAN IT WAS YESTERDAY.

AND IT'S A TON BETTER THAN IT WAS IN 2016.

WHEN WE WERE SEEING NO CONTROLS, WE ARE SEEING CONTROLS.

NOW WE'RE CHANGING A CULTURE AND SOMETIMES A CULTURE CHANGE TAKES A WHILE.

UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE HOLDS.

UH, WE ARE ABLE TO PUT ADMINISTRATIVE HOLDS ON BUILDING PERMITS, ADMINISTRATIVE HOLDS AREN'T AS GOOD AS STOP WORK ORDERS FOR THE MOST PART, BECAUSE THEY DON'T FULLY STOP THE JOB.

UH, STOP WORK ORDERS ARE A LITTLE BETTER FOR US, OUR CITATIONS.

SO WE USE ADMINISTRATIVE HOLDS, BUT WE DON'T USE THEM THAT OFTEN, UH, THERE, THEY ONLY STOPPED THE FINAL INSPECTION.

AND BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE FINAL INSPECTION, WE'VE ALREADY HAD ROUTINE INSPECTIONS, FOLLOW-UP INSPECTIONS.

SO THOSE THINGS HAVE ALREADY HOPEFULLY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

THE SITE'S BEEN RE VEGETATED THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF, IF WE HAVE A LARGE DISCHARGE THAT WE NEED THEM TO GO GET, UH, YOU'LL SEE AN ADMINISTRATIVE

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HOLD NEXT SLIDE.

UH, I THINK WHEN IT CAME TO Y'ALL LAST TIME, THE TERRITORIES WERE A LOT DIFFERENT.

UM, THERE WAS TWO TERRITORIES, I BELIEVE, ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT.

UH, AND THEN THE ONE ON THE LEFT, I BELIEVE WE HAD SIX OR EIGHT.

THE LAST TIME WE CAME THERE'S 13 NOW ON THAT SIDE.

UH, AND WE'VE GONE TO FOUR ON THE RESIDENTIAL SOON.

WE'LL BE WHEN, WHEN WE GET STAFFED AGAIN, WE'LL GO TO EIGHT.

UM, WE WERE FULLY STAFFED FOR ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF.

WE HAD, UH, THREE OR FOUR INSPECTORS PROMOTE WITHIN TWO DOING REVIEW, WHICH HELPS US BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GETTING A GOOD PRODUCT OUT OF A REVIEW.

UH, WE ALSO HAD A COUPLE PROMOTES A WATERSHED, AND I THINK ONE JUST MADE SUPERVISOR OVER WITH WATERSHED.

UM, AND THEN WE DID HAVE A COUPLE THAT RETIRE, UH, WHICH IS PART OF IT.

SO WE'VE DONE SOME HIRING, WELL, WE DID A LOT OF HIRING.

UH, WE GOT FULLY STAFFED AND THEN WE HAD SOME LEAVE AND WE'RE SLOWLY GOING BACK THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS.

AND AS Y'ALL KNOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEWS HIRING IS DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR EVERYBODY.

SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

WE HAVE FIVE INSPECTOR POSITIONS OPEN, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO FILL THOSE SOON.

SO YOU'LL SEE THEM POSTED AGAIN.

UH, WE HAVE THE ONE ENFORCEMENT STAFF THAT YOU'LL ALSO SEE POSTED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

UH, I'M HOPING WITHIN THE WEEK, COUPLE OF WEEKS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE THAT ONE POSTED, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU QUICK NUMBERS, UH, EACH TERRITORY ON THAT YOU SEE RIGHT NOW ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, THE LARGER TERRITORIES HAVE ABOUT 345 INSPECTIONS IN EACH TERRITORY.

WE DID HAVE TWO INSPECTORS IN EACH TERRITORY.

SO TWO INSPECTORS IN, IN 14, 16, 17, AND 15, UH, WHICH MADE UP THE EIGHT INSPECTION INSPECTORS, UM, AREA 15 IS THE HOT TOPIC.

ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN AREA 15.

WE SLIM THAT AREA DOWN AND IT ACTUALLY ONLY HAS 166 INSPECTIONS IN THAT AREA.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THOSE MORE FREQUENTLY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE BARTON SPRINGS, YOU KNOW, THE SPRINGS.

UM, WE STILL HAVE THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, NORTH AND SOUTH THAT WE HIGHLY WANT TO PROTECT.

UM, SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET TO THOSE JUST AS FREQUENT.

WE JUST KNOW THAT MAJORITY OF OUR COMPLAINTS ARE COMING FROM 15.

SO WE FOCUSED IN ON TRYING TO TRY AND CLEAN 15 UP.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THREE INSPECTORS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AND TWO ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE THAT WE'RE MISSING RIGHT NOW.

UH, TWO OF THE, TWO OF THE ENFORCEMENT STAFF ARE ACTUALLY ASSISTING THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ONLY MISSING ONE INSPECTOR, BUT THEY ARE DOING DOUBLE DUTY, UH, ARE ACTUALLY TRIPLE DUTY BECAUSE THEY'RE COVERING, UH, ONE OF THE INSPECTORS IS ACTUALLY COVERING THE COMMERCIAL INSPECTIONS AROUND ZILKER AND, AND WE'RE INSPECTING THOSE A LITTLE MORE FREQUENTLY ALSO, UH, NEXT SLIDE, UH, THIS PAGE IS JUST A QUICK RESOURCE PAGE.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT HAS THE TREE ORDINANCE, THE TREE PROTECTION, THE WATER QUALITY AND DRAINAGE REVIEW.

IT ALSO, UH, TALKS ABOUT CONTROLS AND EROSION SEDIMENT CRITERIA.

UH, OUR INSPECTION REPORT IS IN THERE.

WE, WE USE IT, BUT NOT AS FREQUENT AS WE USED TO.

UM, WE'RE, IT'S ALL IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEM NOW.

SO MOST OF OUR NOTES AND STUFF ARE ACTUALLY IN THE AMANDA SYSTEM.

UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR WEBSITE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTIONS WEBSITE.

IF YOU GO ON THAT WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE BOTH OF OUR MAPS, COMMERCIAL, AND RESIDENTIAL BROKE OUT.

IF YOU, IF YOU CLICK ON THE ADDRESS, PUT YOUR ADDRESS IN IT'LL ZOOM IN, YOU CLICK ON IT AGAIN.

IT'LL ACTUALLY SHOW YOU WHO YOUR INSPECTOR IS FOR THAT AREA, DEPENDING ON IF YOU'RE COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HELPING THE DEVELOPERS OUT TO, BUT ALSO TO HELP THE CITIZENS OUT.

SO THEY KNOW WHO'S IN THOSE

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AREAS AS WELL.

AND THEN IF YOU SCROLL JUST A LITTLE BIT PAST THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PHONE LIST, IT HAS ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

IT HAS MY CONTACT INFORMATION, MY STAFF, ALL OF THE STAFF'S CONTACT INFORMATION AND OUR, UM, OUR DIRECTORY.

WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL EMAIL ADDRESS AND A RESIDENTIAL EMAIL ADDRESS, UH, ALONG WITH THE DISPATCH PHONE NUMBER ON THERE.

SO THAT THERE'S NO REASON IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T CAN'T GET THROUGH 3, 1, 1, OR CAN'T GET THEIR COMPLAINT THROUGH 3, 1, 1 PROPERLY, THEY CAN CONTACT US DIRECTLY.

UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD THE, I PUT THE LCRA HYDRO MAT, UH, WEBSITE ATTACHED TO THERE TOO, JUST IN CASE ANYBODY WANTS TO GO ON THERE.

YOU GOT TO DO A FEW BUTTON CLICKS TO GET TO THE ACTUAL RAIN GAUGES, BUT ONCE YOU GET TO THE RAIN GAUGES, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE RAIN RAIN TOTALS ARE ACROSS THE TOWN.

SO YES, SIR, FIVE FIVE ONE TWO NINE SEVEN FOUR FOUR NINE FOUR SIX.

IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'LL BE HERE.

UH, ALSO MY CONTACT INFORMATION, IF Y'ALL NEED ME, IS DAVID DOT CHAPMAN AT AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV, OR YOU CAN, UH, FOLLOW ME 5 1 2 9 7 4 4 9 4 6 OR 5 1 2 6 6 5 3 3 9 6.

AND I HAVE THOSE ON ME ALL THE TIME, EVEN WHEN I'M ON VACATION.

AND THEN MY CELL PHONE IS (512) 665-3396.

SORRY, A RECALL AWAY AGAIN.

UH, JUST WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER NOTE.

UM, WE MET TODAY OR LAST WEEK WITH THE COMMERCIAL GROUP, THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL GROUP.

SO UNDER MY PURVIEW, IT HAVE A SITE AND SUB ALL THE BUILDING INSPECTORS, ENVIRONMENTAL TREES.

SO WE MET WITH THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND SAID, HEY, WE NEED ANOTHER SET OF EYES.

THEY'RE GOING OUT ONCE A MONTH, HITTING THESE SITES, THE BUILDING GUYS ARE GOING OUT THERE MORE OFTEN.

SO WE MET WITH THEM.

THEY'RE GOING OUT.

IF THEY SEE SOMETHING NOT RIGHT WITH THE SEDIMENT CONTROLS, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THE PHONE CALL.

SO WE'RE TO HAVE MORE EYES ON IT.

SO WE GOT 160 PEOPLE OUT THERE LOOKING AT THESE SITES NOW, INSTEAD OF JUST THE, YOU KNOW, 20 OR 30 PEOPLE HE'S GOT NOW WE'VE GOT 160 PEOPLE LOOK AT THEM.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING, THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE'RE DOING NOW TO HELP GET MORE EYES ON THE SITES, BUT, UH, WE'VE MADE SOME BIG IMPROVEMENTS.

AND LIKE I SAID, EVERY DAY GETS BETTER.

AND JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND FOR THE OTHER NEWER COMMISSIONERS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS, UH, FOR YEARS, I DO WANT TO COMMEND Y'ALL ON THAT, UH, THAT TIME WAS COMMISSIONER MIKE MACIO AND MYSELF MET WITH YOUR DIRECTOR WITH DSD.

I SEE THAT A LOT OF WHAT WE ASKED FOR HAS, HAS HAPPENED THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN, UH, DEFINITELY, UH, STREAMLINED THAT Y'ALL TOOK WHAT WE WERE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT AND YOU'LL HAVE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, UH, REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT, UH, THE INCENTIVES.

WELL, WE ALL WERE GOING TO HAVE AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR THE CERTIFICATION, BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THERE, THE CERTIFICATION IS MOVING FORWARD.

NOW I KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S REALLY TRICKY CAUSE Y'ALL ARE DSD, WE'RE WATERSHED PROTECTION.

YET WE HAVE URBAN FORESTRY AND WE GET THE EMAILS.

WE GET THE CITIZENS CONCERNS.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT THEY COME TO US FIRST.

AND SO, UM, I, I GET IT AND I KNOW THAT, UH, I CLEARLY Y'ALL ARE DOING THAT.

ONE THING THOUGH I DID, WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON A PERCENTAGE IS WHAT PERCENTAGE GOT THE WARNING THAN THE WRITTEN THAN THE CITATION AND, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR, FOR AN SEND IT LATER ON OR PUT THAT INTO THOSE, THAT DATA.

AND, UM, BECAUSE HOPEFULLY MOST OF THEM WITH THE VERBAL STOPPED, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING THE MESSAGE AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING ON WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND THEN WE WANTED TO ASSURANCES THAT Y'ALL WERE WORKING WITH OUR, UH, OUR, UH, TREE PERSON, NAOMI, NAOMI YOU'RE HERE.

UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL ARE WORKING CLOSELY TOGETHER.

THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAD DEFINITELY WANTED TO OCCUR DURING THIS PROCESS.

SO THAT'S REALLY GREAT TO HEAR AND TO SEE HAPPENING.

AND BEFORE I TURN IT UP FOR Q AND A, I DO HAVING FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I'M GLAD TO KNOW YOU'RE FOCUSING IN ON ZILKER, I'M GOING TO DO A MOTION KIND OF ASKING THAT Y'ALL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH

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THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN AFTER Q AND A I'D LIKE DAVID TO COME UP AND JUST LET HIM ASK HIM WHAT MORE DOES HE THINK? YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAVING QUARTERLY MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, W WHAT, IS THERE SOMETHING MORE THAT WE, AS THE URBAN FORESTRY COMMITTEE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THIS PROCESS AND CONTINUE THE GROWTH AND IMPROVEMENT OF IT? SO IF YOU ALL ARE OPEN TO THAT, WE CAN TRY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH THE URBAN, WITH THE THROWING THIS ON THE POOR CHAIR, HE'S SITTING UP THERE GOING, WHAT IS SHE DOING? BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, THIS, THIS IS WHERE WE KIND OF HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH THIS FORWARD, RIGHT.

SO WE APPRECIATE THE CROP COOPERATION TRULY.

AND WHEN WE, WHEN WE MERGED THE TREE IN ENVIRONMENTAL AND, AND DID ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT ARBORIST AND ALL THIS.

SO WE, WE STARTED PUSHING THAT RIGHT AWAY.

YOU KNOW, LET'S GET THESE GUYS AND GALS CERTIFIED ARBORIST THAT HAVE BEEN SEDGWICK TRAINING.

LET'S, I MEAN, DSD DOES NOT HOLD BACK ON TRAINING.

WE'RE ALL ABOUT THE TRAINING.

AND, UH, AND THAT'S WHERE THE INCENTIVES CAME IN.

HEY, YOU GET THESE CERTIFICATIONS, WE'RE GIVING YOU A LITTLE EXTRA CREDIT CASH IN THE YEAR.

AND, UH, SO THAT HELPED A LITTLE BIT TOO.

YEAH, GOOD.

WELL, AND I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE THE DIRECTOR TOO.

UH, SHE REALLY CAME IN AND SHE HEARD US, AND SHE STARTED IMMEDIATELY WORKING WITH Y'ALL TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO Q AND A NOW QUESTIONS, WE'LL START OVER HERE, COMMISSIONER BRIMER.

I'VE, UH, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU PRESENTED HERE, MAINLY ON REPORTING.

UM, AND I HAVE A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.

YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, REPORTS VIA 3, 1, 1.

I CALLED IN A TREE REPORT VIA 3, 1, 1, AND THE PERSON THAT I RECEIVED ON THE PHONE, I REALIZED THAT YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY, BUT, UH, THE PERSON I CONTACTED REGARDING THE, UH, HERITAGE TREE ISSUE, UH, WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH ANYTHING ABOUT THE HERITAGE TREE ORDINANCE.

AND IN THE END, HER RESPONSE WAS HERE'S AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT YOU CALL TO DO THAT.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ADDITIONAL TRAINING NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED TO 3, 1, 1 FOLKS IN ORDER TO GET THIS DONE.

NOW, THE END RESULT WAS THAT I, I MADE AN EMAIL AND THEN BECAUSE I'M IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, I ALSO MADE SOME PHONE CALLS TO PEOPLE AND THE PROBLEM WAS ADDRESSED SATISFACTORILY.

SO THAT PART OF IT FIXED, BUT THE INTERFACE HAD, I BEEN JUST A NORMAL PERSON WAS LESS THAN ADEQUATE.

NOW THAT GETS ME BACK TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU MENTIONED ABOUT GOING AROUND AND DOING INSPECTIONS ON A REGULAR BASIS, HOW RESPONSIVE INVITE MEAN.

I MEAN, BY THAT WHAT'S THE RESPONSE TIME TO AN AVERAGE CITIZEN CALLING IN TO SAY 3, 1, 1, OR TO SOMEONE SAYING, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH A CONSTRUCTION SITE.

THAT'S GOT SILK DRAINAGE ALL THE WAY DOWN MY STREET.

FIRST OF ALL, DO THEY KNOW TO CALL WHO TO CALL AT ALL? YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS? IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THERE A SIGN AT THE CONSTRUCTION SITE THAT SAYS, IF YOU SEE A VIOLATION, OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, PLEASE CALL THIS NUMBER.

AND NUMBER TWO IS IF I CALL THAT NUMBER OR THREE, ONE, ONE WHAT THE TURNAROUND TIME, BECAUSE IN THE CASE OF CUTTING THE TREE, BY THE TIME THEY GOT AN INSPECTOR OUT THERE, ALL WE HAD WAS FIREWOOD AND IT TURNED OUT THAT THE TREE WAS DEAD ANYWAY.

SO IT WAS IRRELEVANT, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BUT IN THE CASE THAT IT WAS NOT DEAD, YOU KNOW, SHOWING UP AFTER YOU'VE GOT FIREWOOD, ISN'T HELPFUL.

SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW CAN THIS BE ADDRESSED IN A MANNER THAT MAKES THINGS BETTER? YEAH, LET ME HIT ON A COUPLE OF THOSE TOPICS.

THE FIRST 1, 3, 1, 1, AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER THE DISPATCHERS WITH 3, 1, 1, BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM QUITE OFTEN.

UH, WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD A MEETING ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO THREE DIFFERENT EMAILS AFTER IT WENT TO 3, 1, 1.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT ADJUSTED.

UH, WE WANT IT TO FUNNEL THROUGH 3, 1, 1.

WE WANT IT TO FUNNEL INTO OUR INBOX, UH, THROUGH THE 3 1, 1 PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN RESPOND IN A TIMELY MANNER.

UH, OUR NORMAL RESPONSE TO ANY COMPLAINTS

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IS WITHIN 24 HOURS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY AT THE SITE, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND AS Y'ALL SEEN WITH SOME OF THE EMAILS THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN, WE GET QUITE A FEW COMPLAINTS FROM THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE FOLKS THAT WILL DISPATCH TO RESPOND TO THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET WITHIN 24 HOURS OF OUR WORKING SCHEDULE.

WE DON'T WORK NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS, SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.

BUT IF WE GET 36 COMPLAINTS IN THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO ALL 36 IN 24 HOURS, WHICH MEANS I'M PULLING STAFF FROM OTHER INSPECTIONS TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE COMPLAINTS.

SAME THING IS IF WE GET 50 COMPLAINTS IN ANOTHER AREA OF TOWN, WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT EMPLOYEES TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE COMPLAINTS.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO THEM IN 24 HOURS.

SO WHEN, IF WE RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM YOU THAT A TREE IS COMING DOWN, WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE PRETTY QUICK, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S PROTECTED OUR HERITAGE.

WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET THERE IN THE NEXT FOUR HOURS, IF NOT SOONER, BUT 24 HOURS IS OUR TURNAROUND RESPONSE TIME THAT WE HAVE INTERNALLY IN OUR SOP FOR ALL COMPLAINTS, UM, ROUTINE WISE, THOSE ROUTINE INSPECTIONS, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO HIT 80% OF THEM RIGHT NOW, UH, WITH STAFFING SHORTAGES, THAT THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THAT YOU HAVE COMING IN.

AND THE NUMBER OF CALLED INSPECTIONS THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE HAVE TO TURN AROUND.

THOSE CALLED INSPECTIONS HAVE TO BE DONE WITHIN THREE DAYS.

SO IF A CONTRACTOR CALLS US AND WANTS A FINAL INSPECTION, WE HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THE TREE FUNNEL.

WE HAVE TO DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL FINAL CHECK EVERYTHING, MAKE SURE THAT THE TREE WASN'T IMPACTED, RIGHT.

MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MITIGATION CALLED OUT FOR MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS MITIGATION CALLED OUT THAT THAT MITIGATION WAS COMPLETED, THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND MAKE SURE THAT THE LANDSCAPING'S ALL IN PER PLAN, THE MULCH IS WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

THE FLOWER BEDS ARE WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.

THE GROUND IS STABLE, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE RUNOFF PROBLEMS THAT WE CAN SEE FROM SITES ALL OVER TOWN, WHERE THE MULCH IS LEAVING THE SITE AND GOING INTO THE ROADWAY TO, RIGHT.

SO WE'RE CHECKING ALL THOSE.

THOSE ARE HAVE A THREE-DAY TURNAROUND.

IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY ATTEMPT TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AS TO THE PROCESS TO REPORT ANY VIOLATIONS OF ANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ADDRESSED, WHETHER IT'S TREES OR EROSION OR ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

YES, SIR.

THAT WAS THE ONE I WAS FORGETTING.

UH, IF YOU GO TO THE DSD FACEBOOK PAGE, UH, SOCIAL, SO THE DSD SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS, UH, THEY HAVE ROLLED OUT SOME DIFFERENT, UH, STREAMS, UH, THE TWITTER ACCOUNT, I THINK ALSO HAD SOME STREAMS RECENTLY ABOUT EROSION SEDIMENT, CONTROLS WHO TO CONTACT.

IF YOU SEE THOSE PROBLEMS, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH PIO TO ROLL THOSE OUT MORE FREQUENTLY.

WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO A BLAST.

UH, WHEN WE SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET OVER A TWO YEAR RAIN EVENT, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THAT OUT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS, BUT WE ALSO, ON THE BACK END HAVE AN EMAIL, UH, FOR ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, THEY'RE SENDING AN EMAIL BLAST TO THE STAKEHOLDERS BEFORE THAT EVENT OCCURS, TELLING THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE CHECKED THEIR CONTROLS, MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CONTROLS HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED, MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES ON THE SITE.

AND THAT'S FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL.

UH, THERE, THERE'S AN EMAIL BLAST FROM PIO.

WHEN WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LARGER THAN A TWO INCH RAIN EVENT, WE'RE NOT DOING THE SMALLER RAIN EVENTS YET, BUT FOR NOW WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT IF WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING A LARGER RAIN EVENT, WE, WE SAW WHERE A COUPLE OF HURRICANES WERE MAYBE PUSHING UP THIS WAY.

THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT, BUT WE, WE HAD THE CHANCE FOR THEM TO PUSH UP INTO OUR AREA.

WE WENT AHEAD AND DID A BLAST, LET THEM KNOW YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN YOUR CONTROLS.

AND THEN WE ALSO PUT IT OUT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT.

YOU SAY PERSONS, YOU KNOW, STAKEHOLDERS.

AND THAT'S A TERM I HEAR VERY FREQUENTLY, BUT WHO ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS? OBVIOUSLY THE CONTRACT AND THE HOMES ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS.

WELL, THE CITIZENS ARE OUR STAKEHOLDERS TOO.

AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT OUT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS.

OR SHOULD THEY BE INCLUDED OR WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, CORRECT.

THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, HOS, UH, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 5,000 DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT HAVE SOME ASSOCIATION WITH THE CITY IN SOME MANNER THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE ENVIRONMENT, ARE THOSE PEOPLE NOTIFIED AS WELL?

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I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS A REALLY AGGRESSIVE ATTEMPT TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC, THE METHOD BY WHICH YOU CONTACT THE CITY TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS SO THAT THEY CAN BE ADEQUATELY REPORTED.

AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE UNDERSTAFFED.

YOU CAN'T ADDRESS EVERYTHING IN EXACTLY A TIMELY MANNER THAT IT SHOULD BE, BUT AT LEAST KNOWING THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM ALLOWS YOU TO WAVE A FLAG IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER, WHOEVER IT IS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS REALLY BIG PROBLEM AND I NEED SOME HELP TO DO SOMETHING.

AND I CAN TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIAISONS, UM, AND, AND SEE WHAT IDEAS WE CAN TOSS AROUND ON THAT AVENUE.

WE, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE DID A SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE DID THE EMAILS.

IF THEY SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE, IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE THOSE EMAILS, THEY WERE ON THAT LIST TOO.

I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL WAS ON THE LIST.

THERE WAS A TON OF PEOPLE ON THE LIST WHEN I GOT THE BLAST.

SO, AND I DIDN'T GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOTIFIED, BUT WE'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT HERE, THAT TO CONTACT 3, 1, 1, CONTACT US HOW TO CONTACT, HOW TO CONTACT US.

UH, WE'VE REACHED OUT AND TALKED TO NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE WE'VE REACHED OUT TO BRUCE.

WE'VE RODE AROUND WITH BRUCE, UM, AND, AND ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, WE WERE TRYING TO MOVE THAT WAY AND I WANT Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO, TO HELP OUT AND OKAY.

I DON'T GET THE WORD OUT AS WELL.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE KIND OF PUSHED FOR IN A GENERAL SENSE IS, UH, I'M A DIRECTOR OF AN HOA AND, UH, NO ONE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS ANY CLUE ABOUT ANY OF THIS STUFF.

SO I SEE AN AND AS A, AS A DIRECTOR OF THE HOA, I NEVER SEE ANYTHING FROM THE CITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY HAVE SIGNED UP FOR STUFF AND I GET STOPPED, BUT I NEVER SEE STUFF THROUGH THE FEED FROM THE CITY THROUGH THE HOS EMAIL.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M ADDRESSING.

AND I'M TRYING TO PUSH DEFINITELY IF YOU, IF YOU WANT ME TO COME OUT TO AN HOA MEETING AND GIVE A PRESENTATION, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO BE THERE.

LIKE I SAID, WE WERE TRYING TO DO OUTREACH.

WE WANT TO DO THAT OUTREACH.

WE, WE WANT TO DO MORE OUTREACH WITH THE HBA, THE INFIELD COALITION, THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE'RE WE'RE HERE.

WE'VE MET WITH NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT YOURS.

UH, BUT I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO COME OUT.

IF Y'ALL HAVE A MEETING, WE CAN PUT A MEETING TOGETHER AND, AND CONTACT ME.

WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT EROSION, SEDIMENT, CONTROLS WHAT WE EXPECT, AND IF THEY HAVE ANY ISSUES, HOW THEY CAN CONTACT US, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO BRING BROCHURES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE HAVE MADE UP FOR HANDOUTS TOO.

SO, OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUTREACH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ON OUR LIST OF ITEMS TO DO.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD'VE BROUGHT IT UP, THAT WAS PART OF IT.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE REACHING OUT AND OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF THIS GO OUT.

SO WE WILL PROBABLY REACH OUT TO YOU AND ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE STATE THAT WANT TO TALK TO US.

UM, AND NOW HE'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY PART OF THAT.

UM, SO THAT'S PART OF IT.

THAT'S A BIG CAMPAIGN.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING OUT.

SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THERE'S MORE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

OUR JOB BECOMES EASIER.

UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE CONTRACT.

I MEAN, WE'LL REMAIN WITH THE CONTRACTORS, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WE'RE MEETING WITH ANYBODY THAT'LL TALK TO US.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, DAVID'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB DOING ALL THIS.

SO, UM, WE'RE HEADING THAT WAY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL TAKES TIME, BUT WE'RE HEADING THAT WAY.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION, OH, I HAVE A COMMISSIONER THOMPSON GO RIGHT AHEAD.

UM, I WANTED TO COMMENT, UM, MAYBE IT'S NOT IN THE WAY YOU WERE GOING TO CALL ON ME THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THE ENVIRONMENTAL HOTLINE WAS STILL AN OPTION.

IF YOU DO REACH A 3, 1, 1 OPERATOR WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR REQUEST.

AND I WONDERED IF THAT THAT WAS, UM, A POSSIBILITY OF REACHING THEM PERHAPS ON THE HOURS.

CAUSE HE DID ALSO MENTION THAT HE WOULD NOT BE WORKING, UM, AT SOME POINTS ON THE WEEKEND AND HOLIDAYS

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AND SO FORTH.

AND HISTORICALLY A LOT OF THINGS HAVE HAPPENED ON THE WEEKENDS.

AND SO THAT WAS MY, UH, COMMENT.

AND UH, SO WE STILL, WE STILL COMMUNICATE HANDS-ON WITH WATERSHED.

UM, WE, WE HAVE TRAININGS WITH WATERSHED.

WE, WE HAVE WEEKLY MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH LIZ AND WATERSHED, UM, AND THAT, UH, SPILL RESPONDENT, WHAT USED TO BE SPILL RESPONSE THERE NOW, UH, WATER QUALITY, UH, THAT HOTLINE IS STILL AVAILABLE, UH, TO CONTACT IT.

DON'T GET ME TO SAYING THE NUMBERS RIGHT OFF HAND, BUT THAT 9, 7, 4 NUMBER FOR SPILL RESPONSE.

THAT IS THE NUMBER THAT WE'VE GIVEN OUT QUITE A FEW TIMES.

YOU CAN STILL CONTACT THAT.

YOU CAN STILL GET SOMEBODY, UH, NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS THEY'LL RE THEY WILL EITHER RESPOND OR THEY'LL GET A HOLD OF MYSELF OR ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS TO RESPOND.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE THEM ABLE TO RESPOND TO THREE, ONE ONE'S ON NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS.

SO THOSE ARE THE 9 7 4 2 2 7 8 NUMBER THAT'S ON OUR CALL, THE D THE EMAIL ADDRESSES, UH, OR, OR WAYS TO GET IN TOUCH WITH US.

WE HAVE PEOPLE MONITORING THOSE.

LIKE I SAID, EVEN WHEN I'M ON VACATION, MY PHONES ARE ON ME.

I'M MONITORING ALL THOSE EMAIL ACCOUNTS ALONG WITH THE ARBORIST EMAIL ACCOUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT FOR A TREE COMING IN TO ANY ONE OF THOSE EMAIL ACCOUNTS THAT WE CAN RESPOND AND GET SOMEBODY OUT THERE PRETTY QUICK.

YOU'RE SAYING BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TREES, CONCERNS ARE BEING SENT DIRECTLY TO YOU, IS THAT, DOES THAT JUST FOR CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE BEING SENT THROUGH OUR EMAIL ACCOUNTS.

SORRY.

AND, UH, HI, LIZ JOHNSTON WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.

I DID WANT TO JUST CLARIFY THAT A, THAT 24 HOUR SPILLS RESPONSE, WHICH IS 9 7 4 2 5 5 0, IF YOU NEED IT, UM, IS REALLY RELATED TO DISCHARGE ILLEGAL DISCHARGE.

SO IF YOU SEE A CREEK TURNING CLOUDY, OR YOU SEE SOMETHING FUNKY GOING TO DO A STORM DRAIN, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE TIME TO CALL.

UM, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO SAY A TREE CONCERN.

UM, HOWEVER, BUT, BUT IF THERE'S, UM, EROSION CON LIKE SEDIMENT COMING FROM AN EROSION, UH, FROM A CONSTRUCTION SITE, THEY COULD, AND IT'S GOING OFF INTO THE STORM DRAIN.

THEY DEFINITELY COULD, UM, COULD REACT TO THAT.

WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN? IS THAT A 5 1, 2 9 7 4 2 5 5 0.

SO, LINDA, MY POINT WAS THAT ON THE WEEKENDS, WHEN A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN ON CONSTRUCTION SITES, THAT PROBABLY, UM, WOULD RAISE CONCERNS WITH PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF THAT WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT WORKING AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL HOTLINE THAT WE'VE RELIED ON HISTORICALLY IS NOW A SPILL RESPONSE FOR CREEKS AND SO FORTH.

SO IT'S SORT OF THE SAME CONUNDRUM THAT WE'VE HAD THIS ENTIRE TIME.

IT'S YEAH, JUST, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, IF THERE IS SEDIMENT COMING FROM A CONSTRUCTION SITE, THE SPILL RESPONSES WOULD STILL WORK BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN ILLEGAL DISCHARGE AND IT WOULD FALL UNDER OUR PURVIEW AS WELL.

SO, BUT OUR TREE CONCERNS WOULD NOT, AND THAT'S DISCONCERTING TO ME SINCE WE HAVE, OR EVEN THIS FOR SO LONG TREE TREE, TREE CONCERNS ARE COMING INTO US EVERY DAY.

ANYTIME WE HAVE PEOPLE TO MONITOR FOR THOSE, LIKE I SAID, THE THREE ONE-ON-ONES WERE, WE GET THOSE THROUGH AN EMAIL TOO.

SO IF IT'S A TREE ISSUE IN THE NIGHT, IN THE EVENING TIME, OR ON THE WEEKEND, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOLKS DEALING WITH THOSE.

UM, WE'VE PUT IN A LOT OF OVERTIME DEALING WITH THOSE, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE STAFF MYSELF AND TWO OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT MONITOR THAT.

AND HOPEFULLY SOON WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE, UH, AND ALSO ONE SUPERVISOR, SORRY, I LEFT OUT THE SUPERVISOR.

DOUG IS OUT THERE QUITE A BIT AND MONITORING IT, UH, ON THE NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS ALSO.

SO, AND TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE LISTENING IN GETTING CONFUSED, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, IF THEY'RE TAKING DOWN A TREE, A CITIZEN CAN ASK FOR A PERMIT, THEY HAVE HAD, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT.

SO ANYONE CAN GO AND SAY, DO YOU HAVE A PERMIT TO CUT THIS TREE DOWN? I NEED TO SEE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE POSTED.

CORRECT.

SO, FIRST OF ALL, ANY TREE BEING CUT, YOU HAVE TO, ANYONE CAN ASK FOR THAT PERMIT.

THEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE PERMIT, THEY COULD MAKE THAT CALL.

BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT

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SO ALL THREE, ONE ONES GO TO OUR DSD, ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTIONS AT AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV SITE, RIGHT? THAT, THAT EMAIL ACCOUNT, WE MONITOR CERTAIN FEW OF US MONITORED, THAT EMAIL ACCOUNT, RIGHT? I HAVE WHAT NOW FOR FOUR SUPERVISORS AND AN ADMIN THAT MONITOR JUST THAT ACCOUNT ON TOP OF MYSELF, RIGHT.

WE CHECK THAT ACCOUNT NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS WE'LL WATCH THAT ACCOUNT.

UM, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT'S COMING IN IS GETTING RESPONDED TO WITHIN THAT 24 HOURS.

IF IT HAPPENS ON SATURDAY MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE BEFORE THE AFTERNOON ON SATURDAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY IS WE, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A WAY TO ENTER IT INTO 3 1, 1, BECAUSE THAT PERSON IS NOT THERE ON NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ANSWERING THE NINE SEVEN FOUR TWO TWO SEVEN EIGHT PHONE ON NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS, BUT WE ARE MONITORING THAT ACCOUNT.

GREAT, WONDERFUL TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE, THE HALL OF SHAME AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE DEAL WITH.

AND, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE THIS CLEAR FOR FOLKS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS GO THROUGH 3, 1, 1, AND THAT, THAT YOU WOULD RECEIVE AN EMAIL.

UM, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT WOULD RECEIVE THE EMAIL AND THEN YOU WOULD SEND SOMEONE OUT AND THAT IS MONITORED OVER THE WEEKENDS AND ON HOLIDAYS AND IN THE EVENINGS.

AND THAT'S CORRECT.

ANYONE ELSE FROM THE LAND OF, OKAY, THERE WE GO.

UH, GO AHEAD, BIXLER.

YEP.

YOU THANK YOU.

I HAVE A, UM, A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL, CAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO LEARN AS MUCH AS I CAN.

UM, FIRST OFF, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES.

UM, SO WHO IS, WHO PICKS THE, UM, UH, BASICALLY THE EROSION CONTROL, UM, OP LIKE METHOD, LIKE, IS IT THE BUILDER THEMSELVES THAT, THAT DECIDE WHAT TO, YOU KNOW, INSTALL ONSITE? SO THE COMMERCIAL SITES ARE DIFFERENT THAN RESIDENTIAL.

UM, COMMERCIAL SITES ARE USUALLY DETERMINED IN THE REVIEWS PART OF THE PLAN.

UH, AS MOST OF YOU MAY KNOW RESIDENTIAL SITES, THEY DON'T SHOW THEM ON A PLAN REVIEW.

UM, SO MOST OF THE ENGINEER AND THE REVIEWERS DO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, WE WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONTROLS ARE IN AND WORKING PROPERLY.

UM, THE, THE CONTRACTOR HAS A CHOICE TO USE ANY OF THE CITY, UH, APPROVED CONTROLS.

UH, SOMETIMES WE'LL MAKE THEM CHANGE THOSE CONTROLS, DEPENDING ON THE GRADE, THE, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE SEE OCCURRING ON THE SITE.

AND ALSO DEPENDING ON HOW BIG OR HOW SMALL THE SITE IS, WE'LL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS OR ASK HIM TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

SO IS THE CONTRACTOR ULTIMATELY THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY, THE DEVELOPER, THE DEVELOPER IS ALWAYS THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBLE PARTY.

SO I, SO IN LIKE FOR MY, LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT RESIDENCES, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, FROM A RESIDENT DENTAL EXAMPLE, SO THE, LIKE THE HOMEOWNER, UM, IF THEY'RE ALREADY AS A HOMEOWNER, SO, SO THEY ARE, I GUESS NOT RESPONSIBLE AND IT, AND IT'S ALWAYS THE CONTRACTOR, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.

UH, COMMITTING TO, YOU KNOW, UH, INCREASING, UM, INSPECTIONS IN THAT AREA.

YES, IT'S OKAY.

IT'S, WHOEVER'S DOING THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY, WHOEVER SIGNED, WHO, WHOEVER ULTIMATELY SIGNS THE PERMIT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE CONTROLS TOO.

SO, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOMES, IT'S THE HOME BUILDER IT, AND I KNOW SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAD COME UP SPECIFICALLY IN THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD, I GUESS.

UM, AND I, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING AND FOR ALSO, UM,

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UM, AND SO I GUESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, A CONTRACTOR MIGHT BE IN COMPLIANCE FOR AN X FOR A SPECIFIC INSPECTION, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT CARE IN BETWEEN INSPECTIONS, SO TO SPEAK.

SO HOW FREQUENTLY IS AN EXPEC, OUR INSPECTIONS LIKE RECURRING ONSITE.

AND THEN I KNOW THAT I KNOW IT VARIES, BUT, UM, IT DOES, SORRY, GO AHEAD.

UH, IT VARIES, UH, AND WE DO THEM AT RANDOM TIMES.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT A CALLED INSPECTION.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE A ROUTINE INSPECTION.

SO WE MAY BE THERE ON THE 28TH OF THIS MONTH OR OF LAST MONTH.

AND WE MAY GO BACK ON THE 15TH OF THIS MONTH.

UM, IT, IT KINDA DEPENDS ON OUR ROTATION WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT CALLED INSPECTIONS WE MAY HAVE FOR THE DAY, OUR SCHEDULE CHANGES OFTEN.

UM, OKAY.

AND THEN IS THE CONTRACTOR INFORMED OR IT, IS IT AHEAD OF TIME? WHEREAS THE, NO, THE CONTRACTORS, THE CONTRACTORS ARE NOT INFORMED OF ROUTINE INSPECTIONS, THEIR ROUTINE, THEIR ROUTINE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE IS IN COMPLIANCE AND, AND WE JUST COME AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WORKING PROPERLY.

THEY ARE INFORMED AFTER WE DO THE INSPECTION OF ANYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO FIX.

UH, AND IF THEY'RE THERE WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE DOING THE INSPECTION AND THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, WE TELL THEM THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB TOO.

SO, UH, WE'RE JUST NOT OUT THERE HITTING THEM ON THE BACKSIDE ALL THE TIME, TOO, SO.

AND THEN THERE WAS A QUESTION, UM, ALSO ABOUT, UM, LIKE FINES, FINES, AND FEES.

SO WHAT YOU ALL HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS RE FOLLOWING THE SLIDES ABOUT THE STOP WORK ORDERS OR THOSE, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATIVE HOLES, SO TO SPEAK AT WHAT POINT DOES A FINE, OUR FEE OCCUR, IS IT RIGHT? AND HOW DOES THAT WORK, YOU KNOW, IN CORRELATION WITH THIS STOP WORK ORDERS? LET ME FIND THAT SLIDE, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

SO CODE WILL NOT ALLOW US TO ISSUE A RE-INSPECTION FEE FOR A VERBAL WARNING, UH, IS WRITTEN IN CODE THAT WAY.

IT TAKES A CODE CHANGE TO GET THAT CORRECTED, AND IT'S NEVER BEEN APPROVED THAT WAY.

SO FOR VERBAL WARNINGS, THERE IS NO FEE ON COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, UH, ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS A RE-INSPECTION FEE.

IT'S $133 FOR A WRITTEN IT'S $133 FOR A STOP WORK ORDER.

UM, FOR CITATIONS, IT DEPENDS ON THE VIOLATION, UH, THE VIOLATION AND THE COURT FEES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT COULD BE UP TO 2060 $4 FOR THAT CITATION.

AND EACH VIOLATION CAN BE A CITATION, RIGHT? SO INADEQUATE EROSION CONTROLS CAN BE A CITATION.

DISCHARGE, A POLLUTION CAN BE A CITATION ALSO, SO WE CAN GET THEM FOR MULTIPLE, UH, WHEREAS ON THE STOP WORK ORDER AND THE WRITTEN IT'S ONE FOR ALL OF THEM.

UH, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, IT'S STILL ZERO FOR VERBAL, UH, FOR THE WRITTEN IS $335.

UM, THAT COVERS THE COST OF OUR INSPECTION, OUR FOLLOW-UP INSPECTION, UH, AND THE INSPECTION THAT WAS OUT OF COMPLIANCE.

UH, AND FOR A STOP WORK ORDER, IT IS A 503.

THE CITATIONS ARE THE SAME AMOUNT, 2060 $4.

IT CAN BE UP TO 2060 $4.

AND LIKE I SAID, EACH VIOLATION CAN BE A DIFFERENT CITATIONS, SO.

USED A LOT OF THE, OF THE ROCK.

I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND.

UM, SO SPECIFICALLY AGAIN, SO, SO I'M ACTUALLY, I AM THE COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH ZILKER, UM, FALLS INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO, UM, ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AS I CAN WHILE I HAVE YOU ALL, UM, HERE.

UM, SO ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WAS ABOUT, UM, I GUESS THE ROCKS, UH, BEING USED WITH, WITHOUT PERIMETER PERIMETER CONTROL.

AND I BELIEVE THAT PROPERTY ON SIDE NINE THAT YOU SHOWED IN YOUR SLIDES WAS AN EXAMPLE OF THE INNOVATIVE, UM, INNOVATIVE DESIGN, MAYBE.

UM, AND SO, UH, ZILKER RESIDENT HAD BEEN CONCERNED THAT HE'S BEEN SEEN THAT METHOD

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UM, AND, AND I GUESS THE QUESTION WAS WHY HE DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WAS AN EROSION CONTROL METHOD.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALREADY LIKE APPROVED.

IT IS NOT APPROVED.

UM, AS I STATED ON THAT SLIDE, WE ARE TRYING, WE ARE MEETING WITH OTHER CITIES, OTHER, OTHER GROUPS TO TRY TO FIND OTHER WAYS TO CONTROL THE SEDIMENT ON SITES.

THE WAY THAT THE OPTIONS THAT YOU SAW ARE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST OPTIONS, THERE'S NEW, INNOVATIVE IDEAS OUT THERE.

THERE'S NEW PROGRAMS IN PLAY OR NEW, UH, DEVICES THAT THEY'RE COMING OUT WITH DAILY THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TRIED.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO PILOT SOME OF THOSE MEET WITH THOSE DIFFERENT CITIES, THOSE DIFFERENT GROUPS.

SEE IF THEY HAVE THINGS THAT WE CAN TRY TO MAKE AN IMPACT AND KEEP THE SEDIMENT OUT OF OUR CREEKS AND OUT OF THE COLORADO RIVER, IF YOU CROSS THE RIVER AFTER A RAIN STORM EVENT, YOU'LL SEE IT'S CHOCOLATE MILK, UH, TO SAY IT NICELY.

SO OUR JOB IS TO TRY TO KEEP THAT SEDIMENT OUT OF THE RIVER.

AND YES, THE ROCK IS NOT APPROVED YET.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING IT'S IT HAS A CUT BEHIND THE CURB.

SO WE CUT, WE HAD THEM CUT FOUR INCHES BEHIND THE CURB, FOUR INCHES DOWN, AND THEN ALL THE WAY BACK AND THEN INSTALL THE ROCK.

UH, YOU ARE, THEY ARE SEEING IT ON SOME MORE SITES IN ZILKER.

ZILKER HAS SMALLER LOTS.

UM, THEN SOME OF THE LARGER LOT AREAS THAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING, AND THEY'RE MORE, UH, THEIR, THEIR SLOPES ARE GREATER.

SO WE'RE TRYING DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT STYLES IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

SO WE'RE TRYING THEM IN THE FLAT SIDE OF TOWN AND WE'RE TRYING THEM ON THE HILLSIDE HILLY SIDE OF TOWN, RIGHT.

TO SEE IF THEY'LL WORK.

AND IF THEY WORK, THEN WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THAT PAPERWORK TO WATERSHED, ASKED FOR WATERSHED, TO LOOK AT THE CONTROLS WITH US, AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT PUSHED THROUGH FOR APPROVAL AND, AND ABLE TO USE DIVERSE, UH, CONTROLS TO TRY TO CONTROL THAT SEDIMENT RUNOFF.

SO THANK YOU.

SO, I MEAN, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT APPROVED IT STILL DOESN'T, IT STILL COULD BE A VERY EFFECTIVE MEANS OF SEDIMENT CONTROL AND YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON, ON PILOTING THAT IT CAN BE, IT MAY HAVE ITS DOWNFALLS TOO.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE OBSERVING IN THE PILOT.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO USE IT ON, ON DIFFERENT SITES SO WE CAN SEE THE GOOD IN THE BED AND SO THAT WE CAN DETAIL OUT THE GOOD AND THE BAD, AND THEN TALK ABOUT IF WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE IT WORK.

UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF MATERIAL BEING DROPPED OFF AT THESE HOME SITES, UH, AT, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DROP THAT MATERIAL OFF, THE SILT FENCE GET, GETS RUN OVER CRUSHED.

THEY PUT THE MATERIAL RIGHT ON THE SILT FENCE.

A LOT OF TIMES, UH, THEY ALSO RUN OVER THE MOST SOCKS.

THEY FLATTEN OUT THE MOLD SOCKS.

NOW THE MOLD STOCK DOESN'T WORK ADEQUATELY CAUSE IT'S FLAT.

SO ROCK IS A WAY FOR THEM TO PULL RIGHT UP ON TO THAT AREA, DROP THEIR LOAD AND BACK OUT.

AND WE DON'T GET THE TRACKING ON THE STREET.

SO WE'RE MINIMIZING TRACKING, WE'RE MINIMIZING THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF THAT'S ACTUALLY COMING THROUGH THAT ROCK AREA.

UH, THE, THE SITE THAT WAS IN THE PICTURE AFTER THE RAIN EVENT, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF MUD TRANSFERRED INTO THE ROCKY AREA.

UH, TOWARDS THE TOP, WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF SAND WHERE THEY DROP SOME SAND, UH, IN THAT AREA, BUT THAT WAS ALL WE REALLY SAW THAT WAS MAKING IT INTO THE ROCK AREA.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAD A FOUR INCH CUT THERE, WHICH WILL HELP DETAIN THAT WATER TO THANK YOU FOR, FOR EXPLAINING THAT IN FRANCE DURING ALL MY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T I'M, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, LINDA.

I HAVE A QUESTION I HAD FOR MR. THOMPSON.

EASIER FOR EGRESS OF, UH, THE SITE FOR THE, TO, UH, PROGRESS RAPIDLY, BUT I I'M SORT OF CONCERNED WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, PRESENTED WITH IT AND THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT AN APPROVED USE.

UM, THIS HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED, SO YOU'RE TESTING IT NOW, DOES IT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH, UH, THE COMPRESSION OF THE SOIL AND DO THESE ROCKS, UM, LEAD THE SITE AT ALL? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, IT MAY BE

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AND YET YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING THAT IT'S OKAY, THAT IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO USE WHEN THE TRUCKS GO OVER IT, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO REPAIR ANYTHING.

BUT IT, I, I AM JUST, I MEAN, I REALLY THINK THAT THE PROCESS FOR APPROVING THESE THINGS HAS BEEN, UH, STUDIED A LOT.

AND I MEAN, I'M, I DUNNO, IT JUST, I FIND IT VERY DISCONCERTING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NEED TO DO PILOTS IN CERTAIN AREAS, BUT I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH, UM, MULTIPLE SITES USING THIS AND BEFORE IT IS APPROVED, UM, I WILL TELL YOU THE REASON WHY WE DO THE FOUR INCH CUT BEHIND THE CURB IS SO THAT WE DON'T GET THE MIGRATION OF THE ROCK OFF OF THE SITE.

UH, HOPEFULLY THE, THE VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING ONTO THE SITE ARE NOT LARGER.

LIKE WE SEE ON THE COMMERCIAL SITES, SO THAT ROCK MATERIAL SHOULDN'T BE GETTING CAUGHT IN THE WHEELS AND MIGRATING OFF ONTO A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

THE DEVELOPER IS MADE AWARE THAT IF THOSE ROCKS MAKE IT ONTO THE STREET, THAT THEY NEED TO REMOVE THOSE BACK ONTO THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE PILOTING THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE CONTROLS THAT WE'RE PILOTING.

WE'RE PILOTING QUITE A FEW CONTROLS.

WE'RE STAYING IN CONTACT WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE THAT WE'RE DOING SOME PILOT PROGRAMS AND THAT WE'RE TRYING IT IN DIFFERENT AREAS SO THAT WE CAN SEE IF IT WORKS.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE THREE CONTROLS THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE MOST, THAT WE CAN TO MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF BOSTON AND WITHOUT TRYING NEW CONTROLS, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T SAY WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING FOR THEM.

THESE CONTROLS HAVE THEIR BENEFITS THAT WE'RE USING.

NOW, THE ONES THAT ARE APPROVED HAVE BENEFITS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE DOWNFALLS TOO.

SO WE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND TRYING TO DO IT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AND WITH EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT, UH, WILL COMMENT THAT WHEN YOU SAID THE CONTROLS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED DON'T WORK, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE MISUSED.

AND SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR INNOVATIVE SPIRIT AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S FINE, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

I, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN IMPASSE THAT HAS BEEN CREATED BY PROCESS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

UH, COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

THEN WE'LL GO LIKE, HI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THAT HAS BEEN VERY, UH, EXTENSIVE AND, AND, UH, CLEARLY PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, ON, ON THIS, THIS LAST, UH, UM, UH, QUESTION, UH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFICATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING ROCKS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE THEY GIVEN A DESIGNATED STATUS AS A PROJECT PROPOSAL OR, OR ARE THEY JUST GOING OFF AND DOING IT? I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE IN MY OPINION.

UM, IF IT'S A PROJECT STATUS AND YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE MONITORING IT, I THINK IT IT'S ALL IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A LOT MORE UNDERSTANDABLE FOR, FOR, I THINK ALL OF US.

ON OUR HOT LIST FOR AFTER RAIN EVENTS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE IF THEY'RE AS EFFECTIVE.

SO WE, WE KEEP A LIST OF THOSE SITES.

WE MONITOR THOSE SITES, JUST LIKE WE WOULD, EVERY OTHER SITE, WE DO MONITOR THOSE AFTER RAIN EVENTS.

WE, WE PUT THOSE ON OUR,

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AND IF IT'S RAINING, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MY STAFF OUT THERE TOO.

WE'RE WE DON'T JUST LOOK AT CONTROLS.

WHEN IS DRY, WE LOOK AT CONTROLS ALL THE TIME, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK THAT WE'RE AT WORK, RIGHT.

AND WHEN WE'RE NOT HERE, SOMEBODY'S RESPONDING TO THOSE COMPLAINTS.

WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR THAT SITE AND GET AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN SO THAT WHEN WE SUBMIT IT TO WATERSHED, WE HAVE OUR DUCKS IN A ROW.

IF WE WANT TO WORK ON GETTING IT APPROVED BEFORE WE GET IT TO THEM.

AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WORKED FOR MANY YEARS, I STAY IN CONTACT WITH ERM, UH, WATERSHED PROTECTION WITH TOM FRANKIE.

HE, HE STAYS IN CONTACT WITH ME WHEN THERE'S CODE REVISIONS.

SO WE, WE KEEP IN CONTACT, CONTACT, LIZ, LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

UH, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS AND WE KEEP TRACK OF THOSE SITES.

SO WE KNOW IF IT'S HELPING OR NOT.

WE WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S HELPING.

SO THE, UM, JUST, UM, TO CLARIFY MY THINKING, UM, THE EXAMPLES THAT YOU SHOWED, WHERE THINGS THAT ARE DONE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THERE, WHICH, UH, ADDITIONALLY, UH, WOULD BE A PERMANENT, UH, ALTERATION INSIDE, FOR EXAMPLE, A RAIN GARDEN, WHICH MIGHT HAVE A BENEFICIAL EFFECT IN, IN, IN A GIVEN, UH, LANDSCAPE THAT HAS, UH, HAS A SIGNIFICANT SLOPE.

BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF YOUR PURVIEW.

IS THAT RIGHT ON, ON RESIDENTIAL SITES? WHAT I SHOWED YOU WAS MAINLY REDS RESIDENTIAL SITES BECAUSE IT'S ZILKER THAT, THAT KIND OF BROUGHT THIS ALL UP, RIGHT? UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN, UNLESS IT'S A SUBDIVISION SUBDIVISION, WE DON'T HAVE WATER QUALITY DETENTION.

THE FOUR INCH CUT BEHIND THE CURB IS A DETENTION AREA.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S CREATING AND THE SITES ARE SMALLER.

SO YOU HAVE A FOUR INCH BY HOWEVER LONG, THE FRONTAGE OR THE STREET SIDE OF THAT LOT IS CUT BACK FOUR INCHES.

SO IT IS A, A LARGER DETENTION AREA.

UH, YES, WE ARE PUTTING ROCK IN THAT AREA TO KIND OF KEEP THE TRACKING AND, AND THINGS TO A MINIMUM.

UH, AND HOPEFULLY NOT HAVING ANY OF THAT OTHER SEDIMENT RUNNING OFF, UH, WE ARE TRYING DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TYPES OF INSTALLS TOO, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST THE ONE YOU SAW IN THE PICTURE IS ONE TYPE OF INSTALL.

THE OTHER TYPE IS TO HAVE THE ROCK LOWER TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, LEAVE THE FOUR INCH FOR A DETENTION, RIGHT.

AND YOU CAN'T PUT THIS IN EVERY AREA BECAUSE YOU HAVE PROTECTED TREES.

YOU HAVE HERITAGE TREES THAT ARE ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE DON'T WANT TO CUT INTO THAT ROOT ZONE.

SO IT'S JUST ONE TYPE THAT WE'RE TRYING ALONG WITH THE OTHER TYPE THAT Y'ALL SAW, UH, AND A COUPLE OTHERS THAT WE'RE TESTING OUT.

SURE.

AND THAT EVERY PROPERTY HAS ITS UH, INDIVIDUAL, UH, CHALLENGES, UH, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE, UH, IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

UM, AND, UM, I THINK, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE.

I, I HAVE ASKED BEFORE IF WE COULD HAVE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION, UM, REGARDING, UM, UH, UM, RESIDENTIAL AREAS, COMMERCIAL AREAS THEY'RE ALREADY BUILT AND, AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE TO, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG THE, THE, UH, UH, RIVERS, UH, WATERWAYS, UM, CREEK BEDS, UH, AND SUCH, AND, AND THINGS THAT ARE IN THE WATERWAYS, UM, ARE, ARE BEING ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED BECAUSE, UM, MY OWN EXPERIENCE LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

SO I'M, I AM HOPING THAT, THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING, UH, COMING UP, UH, TO, UH, UH, PRIZES AS TO THE PROGRESS ON THAT.

UH, JUST WANTED TO, UM, MENTION MENTIONED THAT BRIEFLY.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, I THINK IS, UH, UH, IT'S CERTAINLY TAUGHT ME A LOT THAT I, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

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BEDFORD.

HELLO.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

I WAS CURIOUS IF Y'ALL HAD, DID IN PERSON LIKE HANDS-ON TRAINING AS FAR AS LIKE HOW TO PROPERLY, UM, SET UP, UH, UH, SEDIMENT, ABATEMENT, UM, BUT THE OPEN PUBLIC OR, UH, CONTRACTORS AS WELL.

LIKE, IS IT LIKE A, AND IF YOU DO, IS IT LIKE A QUARTERLY KIND OF TRAINING OR IS IT LIKE, IS IT REQUIRED AT ALL? OR WE, WE HAVEN'T OPENLY DONE THAT.

UH, OF COURSE WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES ON THE SITE, WE'D MEET WITH THE BUILDER, UH, IF WE CAN AND GO OVER THOSE, UH, YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE ON SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITES, THE BUILDERS HAVE ACTUALLY PUT, FIND THEM OUT TICKETS ON THEIR CONTROLS.

NOW, UH, THEY'RE TREE PROTECTION, THEIR CELL FENCE, THE MAIN DEVELOPMENT COMPANY WILL ACTUALLY PLUCKER THEIR CONTROL AND SAY, IF YOU TEAR THIS UP, YOU WERE PAYING THIS FINE AMOUNT AND THAT'S FOR THEIR SUBS.

UM, SO WE, UH, WE HAVE DONE SOME OUTREACH.

WE, WE REACHED OUT TO THE HBA AND THE INFIELD A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE WENT TO A SITE.

WE, WE DID INSTALLS, UH, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH COVID.

OF COURSE WE'VE BEEN HINDERED, BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO.

UH, WE'VE DONE IT WITH STAFF, FOR SURE.

UH, WE WENT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, THEN GOODNESS, WE HAD A SITE ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE OUR NEW BUILDING IS, AND WE HAD TREE PROTECTION, ROSEN CONTROLS, UH, AND THEN WE HAD, UM, SOME CONTROLS THAT WE, WE HAD GOTTEN FROM A PRIVATE COMPANY.

WE BROUGHT THOSE IN, WE DEMONSTRATED HOW THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE INSTALLED TO OUR STAFF AS WELL, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW NEW STAFF.

SO I THINK WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THE RIGHT THINGS, UM, AND, AND DOING A LOT OF OUTREACH TO, SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERED EVERYTHING.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND ASK, UM, BRUCE, I KNOW THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WOULD YOU MIND JUST COMING UP AND TELLING THE COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE SOMETHING WE'RE MISSING HERE THAT YOU THINK THAT IS SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS AND SHOULD BE ADDRESSED? AND AGAIN, WE'RE WATERSHED, WE'RE NOT DSD, BUT WE'RE, WE WORK HAND IN HAND.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS BRUCE WILDLAND.

I'M A RESIDENT IN THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I KNOW THAT THE INSPECTORS HAVE A THANKLESS JOB.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, DAVID AND RICK TAKING ME AROUND.

WE WENT ON A TOUR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK THE, UH, BUILDERS ARE GETTING THE MESSAGE YET.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THE VERBAL, UH, UH, WARNINGS THAT THEY GET ARE HAVING THE EFFECT INTENDED EFFECT.

I, I REALIZED THERE PROBABLY MORE CONTROLS OUT THERE NOW THAN THERE WERE 10, 20 YEARS AGO, BUT A LOT OF THOSE CONTROLS ARE JUST, UH, COSMETIC.

I MEAN, IF THEY DON'T IMPLEMENT THEM CORRECTLY, THEY DON'T WORK.

UH, I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER.

UH, I'VE BEEN REGISTERED 40 YEARS.

SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

UM, THE, UH, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I HAVE IS I DON'T ALWAYS, I DON'T ALWAYS SEE THESE ISSUES GETTING RESOLVED IN A TIMELY MATTER.

I KNOW I SEND THE EMAILS AND THEY MUST GO OUT THERE AND TALK TO THEM, BUT NOTHING.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF SITUATIONS, NOTHING SEEMS TO BE, GET BEAT, GETTING DONE.

YOU SAW THE EMAILS THAT I SENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THE PHOTOS YOU WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT THE MORE RECENT ONES, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY SITES ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARDS, WHICH HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR YEARS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GET A LITTLE FEEDBACK FROM DSD OR FROM WHOEVER FROM THE INSPECTORS ON WHY THEY THINK THESE SITES ARE, ARE COMPLIANT.

SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO KEEP SENDING THEM IF THERE'S SOMETHING I'M MISSING.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHY, WHY THEY THINK THAT THIS IS COMPLIANT WITH THE ISSUES.

I MEAN, I, I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF ISSUES THAT I, I, I PUT IN THAT, UH, EMAIL TO YOU.

UM, I DO WANT TO TALK JUST REAL QUICKLY ABOUT THE ROCK SITUATION.

UM, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A COMPLETE FAILURE, AT LEAST ON SLOPES LIKE THAT ONE, HIS OWN.

IF YOU LOOKED AT THE MUDDY RUNOFF, UH, THAT WAS COMING OFF THAT SITE THE DAY AFTER THOSE ROCKS WERE PUT A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THOSE ROCKS WERE PUT IN PLACE CAN SEE, THEY'RE NOT STOPPING THE MUDDY RUNOFF.

NOW, MAYBE METI RUNOFF, ISN'T

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CONSIDERED A PROBLEM.

I MEAN, THEY'RE THERE, YOU CAN GET LOTS OF SEDIMENT COMING OFF AND YOU CAN GET SEDIMENT, JUST, I MEAN, INCHES OF SEDIMENT IN THE, IN THE GUTTER, BUT YOU ALSO GET ALL THIS MUDDY RUNOFF COMING OFF AND, UH, A FEW HOURS, OR EVEN A FEW MINUTES AFTER THE RAIN, UH, YOU WON'T EVEN SEE IT.

IT WILL EVOLVE, GONE DOWN THE GUTTER AND INTO THE END OF THE STORM DRAINS.

I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM CAUSE IT'S GOING DOWN TO OUR STREAMS AND CREEKS.

UM, I, UH, I ALSO, UH, THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE CLEANING UP THE MUD IN THE GUTTER WHEN THEY'RE SEDIMENT ALL DOWN THE GUTTER TO THE, TO THE, UH, STORM SEWERS.

IT NEVER SEEMS TO GET CLEANED UP.

IT JUST PILES UP AND UP.

IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE SEDIMENT CONTROLS IN PLACE THAT THEY, UH, THAT THEY OUGHT TO HAVE TO CLEAN UP.

UH, I COULD GO ON PROBABLY FOR AN HOUR ON THIS AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY MUCH MORE OF YOUR TIME.

I MAY WRITE UP AN EMAIL AND I'LL SEND IT TO, UH, TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO, UH, DAVID AND RICK ABOUT WHAT I SAW IN THE PRESENTATION AND WHAT I SEE NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE FUTURE.

I STILL THINK THAT UNTIL THESE, UH, UH, BUILDERS START GETTING HIT WITH FINES, THAT THEY DON'T REALLY CARE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING TO THEM, YEAH, THEY'LL GO OUT AND THEY'LL PULL SOME MOLT SOCKS INTO PLACE AND THERE'LL BE THERE FOR A DAY.

I KNOW THESE GUYS CAN'T BE OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.

I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY 10 SITES WITHIN THREE MINUTES WALKING DISTANCE OF MY HOUSE.

MY HOUSE WAS JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM, UH, FROM THAT ONE INNOVATIVE, UH, DESIGN.

SO I SEE THAT ONE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND, UH, IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH FOR ME TO GO AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH FOR ME TO GO OUT AND GET PICTURES OR, OR, UH, VIDEOS OF WHAT'S COMING OFF THOSE SIDES.

AND, UH, SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, I COULD GO ON FOR A LONG TIME, BUT I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK.

WE CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS.

WE MEET, UH, SOMEHOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFFLINE AND THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED AT MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CHUMP CHANGE.

THOSE FINES ARE RIDICULOUS, BUT YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? HOW DO WE MANDATE, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC THINGS THAT NEED TO BE MANDATED.

SO I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE THIS.

I KNOW THAT WE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS AND TRY TO RESOLVE IT.

AND IT MAY TAKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME REAL UP POLITICAL MUSCLE.

UM, BUT WE CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THIS INFORMATION AND Y'ALL COMING OUT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, BRUCE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? OH, ANYTHING ELSE? OH, I'M SORRY, MR. KASHI.

NO WORRIES.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

UM, FIRST OFF, IT'S VERY TRIPPY TO HEAR MYSELF LIKE THIS, BUT HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU GET USED TO IT, I SUPPOSE.

UM, YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PIGGYBACKING OFF WHAT, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER GUERRERO, UH, SAID, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK NOT ONLY WOULD IT BE INTERESTING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE CITED OR, YOU KNOW, GIVEN A VERBAL WARNING AND THEN HOW THAT TRANSLATES INTO THE CITATION.

I THINK THE METRICS ON THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING.

I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN SEEING, UM, THE NUMBER OF REPEAT OFFENDERS AS FAR AS LIKE GRABBING, GETTING CITED RIGHT.

AND BEING HIT WITH FINES.

LET'S BE HONEST IF YOU'RE A BUILDER, YOU KNOW, $2,000, YOU PROBABLY MAKE YOUR MONEY BACK BY CUTTING CORNERS.

YOU KNOW? SO I THINK WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WE START, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING FINES FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UH, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

THE AMOUNT OF PERMITS ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO THE FINAL COMMENT, DO YOU NEED ME TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THOSE? UM, I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THINGS.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A REPEAT OFFENDER PROGRAM, UM, TRYING TO DESIGN SOME KIND OF TRAINING, KIND OF LIKE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES FOR, UM, PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THEIR PERMITS.

THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME KIND OF TRAINING TO GET THAT PERMIT.

UH, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE IDEAS.

OF COURSE WE NEED THE STAFFING SO THAT WE CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN FOCUS SOMEBODY'S TIME AND ENERGY ON CREATING THAT TRAINING PROGRAM.

UH, AND HOPEFULLY THIS ENFORCEMENT PER THE, THE ENFORCEMENT STAFF AND MYSELF AND SOME OF THE SUPERVISORS CAN GET TO THAT POINT.

UM, WE'RE AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A FEW BUILDERS DEVELOPERS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

THEY'RE COMING HERE EVERY DAY.

EH, THE,

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SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE DO SEE REPEAT OFFENDERS AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT ACCORDINGLY.

THAT'S, WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS STOP WORK ORDERS, CITATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT WITH OUR STAFF.

AND ONCE WE GET THAT ENFORCEMENT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE GO UP, UH, WITH CITATIONS.

ALSO, WE ONLY ISSUED ONE CITATION LAST YEAR ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE PRIOR TO THIS LAST YEAR, RIGHT? UM, THE YEAR PRIOR TO WE ISSUED ONE THIS LAST YEAR, WE ISSUED FOR TWO OF THOSE CAME FROM ME MYSELF.

UM, WHILE, WHILE WE WERE ON THE RIDE, ALONG WITH BRUCE, UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE SITES THAT WEREN'T IN COMPLIANCE, KEEP NOT BEING IN COMPLIANCE.

SO THEY GOT CITATIONS.

SO WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.

UH, AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS FILLING THAT STAFFING VOID.

THAT'LL HELP US GET TO A BETTER SPOT WHERE WE CAN ISSUE MORE CITATIONS IF WE NEED TO.

UM, BUT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THEY'RE MAKING THE REPAIRS AND WE GO BACK.

SO TO CLARIFY, WHEN THEY MAKE THE REPAIRS, WE GO BACK, WE GIVE THEM A DEADLINE.

WHEN WE GO BACK AND CHECK FOR THAT DEADLINE, BECAUSE IT AUTOMATICALLY POPULATES A FOLLOW-UP INSPECTION FOR US.

EVERY TIME WE ISSUE A VIOLATION, WHEN WE DO THAT, FOLLOW-UP INSPECTION, THEY'RE EITHER IN COMPLIANCE OR THEY'RE NOT.

AND WE CLEAR IT IF IT'S IN COMPLIANCE, IF IT'S NOT, IT MOVES TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

SO IF I GIVE YOU A VERBAL WARNING AND I TELL YOU, WITHIN 24 HOURS, YOU NEED TO HAVE THESE CONTROLS FIXED.

AND I GO BACK IN 24 HOURS AND YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE CONTROLS FIXED.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET A WRITTEN WARNING, OR MAYBE EVEN A STOP WORK ORDER, DEPENDING ON HOW BAD THE CONTROLS ARE AT THAT POINT TOO, BECAUSE SOME DELIVERY GUY COULD HAVE CAME IN AND DESTROYED YOUR CONTROLS OVERNIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

A LOT OF TIMES ON THESE SMALLER SITES IS THEY'LL FIX THEM.

AND 10 MINUTES AFTER WE DRIVE OFF DELIVERY GUY, I'LL SHOW UP AND TEAR THEM UP.

THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE'RE TRYING TO FIND INNOVATIVE DESIGNS THAT WILL WORK WITH THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE AND THE NEED THAT WE, WE HAVE OUT THERE IN THE FIELD.

YEAH, I GUESS A UP QUESTION FOR THAT.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, RIGHT.

UM, YOU GET LIKE A WRITTEN WARMING, RIGHT? LET'S SAY THAT YOU, UH, THAT BUILDER THEN GOES INTO COMPLIANCE AT THE NEXT, UH, INSPECTION ROUND.

UH, SO THEN THAT'S CLEAR, RIGHT? SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY GET ANOTHER VERBAL WARNING FOR THE SAME, UH, QUOTE, UNQUOTE OFFENSE, WOULD THAT PROCESS THEN START OVER FROM THE BEGINNING? OR IS THERE LIKE A, WELL, OKAY.

YOU ALREADY SCREWED UP ONCE, YADA YADA YOU KNOW, UH, ACCURACY, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT DEPENDS ON THE ISSUE.

IT, IF, IF WE FIND THAT THEY JUST CONTINUALLY ARE HAVING AN ISSUE AT THAT SAME LOCATION WILL INTENSIFY THE, UH, OFFENSE.

WE'LL MAKE IT A WRITTEN ARE EVEN A STOP WORK ORDER AT THAT POINT.

UM, OUR GOAL IS, IS TO EDUCATE THEM AND GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE.

RIGHT? SO SOMETIMES WE MAY SEE THIS AREA TORE DOWN.

WE COME BACK, WE SEE THAT AREA TORE DOWN AGAIN.

WE'LL TRY OTHER THINGS.

WE'LL PUT OTHER CONTROLS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT CONTROL.

WE'LL HAVE THEM PUT MULCH SOCK IN, UM, YOU, YOU, IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT ANY OF THE ZILKER PICTURES, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS PUTTING UP FENCING WITH THE MATERIAL ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT.

UH, AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T SEE IN, AND THEN YOU SEE A SILK FENCE RIGHT BEHIND THAT.

WELL, IN SOME CASES THEY HAVE A MOTORCYCLE, JUST THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT CELL FENCE WITHIN TWO TO THREE FEET.

AND IF I TAKE A PICTURE FROM THE STREET, YOU CAN'T SEE THOSE CONTROLS.

SPOT TO BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL GUY.

ALL YOU SEE IS THE FENCING ON THE OUTSIDE.

UM, SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE IT BETTER.

UM, COULD WE, COULD WE DO QUICKER ENFORCEMENT? YES.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THE CITY AND DO WE WANT TO COMPLETELY STOP THE DEVELOPMENT? UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A TASK THAT WE ALL WANT TO BE HELD WITH TWO, RIGHT? SO WE'RE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE TRYING TO MAKE THE ENVIRONMENT GREAT AND KEEPING THE ENVIRONMENT THAT AUSTIN HAS, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TOO.

SO, AND AUSTIN'S A HOTBED FOR DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'S A DIFFICULT

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I CAN TELL YOU THAT AND BE OVER THE ENVIRONMENTAL SECTION.

THEY THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WELL, YOU REALLY TRULY REALIZE WHAT AN ISSUE THIS IS AND HOW CONCERNED WE ARE ABOUT IT.

AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS AND WE KNOW WE GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO.

THANK YOU, BRUCE, FOR ALL YOU DO TOO.

ANYONE ELSE? ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION FROM OUR, YES, I'M READY.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO RUN IT THIS SINCE TELL ME IF I DO IT WRONG, LIZ OR KEVIN.

UM, WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION OR APPRECIATES DSDS CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS TO EROSION AND SEDIMENTATION CONTROLS CITYWIDE, AND IN PARTICULAR, IN THE SOAKER BARTON HILLS NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION APPRECIATES THE INSPECTION REPORT AND PRESENTATION GIVEN TONIGHT, UM, THEREFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMENDS THREE, THREE THINGS THAT DSD CONTINUE TO IMPROVE EROSION AND SEDIMENTATION CONTROL TYPES AND IMPLEMENTATION AND TREE INSPECTION, TRAINING, ARBORIST COLLABORATION, AND CERTIFICATIONS.

THAT DSD CONTINUED TO BRIEF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AT A MINIMUM ANNUALLY ON INSPECTIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO EROSION AND SEDIMENTATION AND TREE PROTECTION CITYWIDE.

AND FINALLY THAT DSD CONTINUED PUBLIC OUTREACH TO COMMUNICATE THE BEST PROCESSES.

SORRY, THE BEST PROCESS TO REPORT CONCERNS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO DSD.

I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION.

UM, ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT.

UH, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, ANY ABSTENTIONS, ANYONE AGAINST I DIDN'T SEE ONE.

AGAINST EIGHT ON.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

B BRIEFING ON THE SOUND ORDINANCE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING.

APPRECIATE IT.

THAT'D BE GOOD.

THREE

[3.b. Briefing on the Sound Ordinance—David Chapman, Environmental Compliance Supervisor, and Brian Block, Program Manager, Development Services Department (30 minutes)]

SHOULD WE LET THEM CATCH THEIR BREATH? DO YOU CATCH YOUR BREATH? YOU'RE GOING TO COME, COME ON UP AGAIN.

SHE WOULD TAKE A BRIGHT, BRIAN'S GOING TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL FIRST AND THEN I'LL COME IN A LITTLE LATER.

GOOD BREAK.

GOOD EVENING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

MY NAME'S BRIAN BLOCK, THE ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES MANAGER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND, UM, CAN WE GET THE NEXT SLIDE? SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT, UM, THE AMPLIFIED SOUND PROCESS.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE KIND OF SHORT OVERVIEW OF, UM, CHAPTER NINE TWO, WHICH IS THE REGULATIONS AND POLICY RELATED TO NOISE AND AMPLIFIED SOUND.

SO WE'RE GOING TO COVER THE GENERAL RESTRICTIONS FIRST BRIEFLY TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THAT, THEN TALK ABOUT THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND PERMIT TYPES, THE REVIEW PROCESS FOR THAT.

AND THEN DAVID'S GOING TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT RELATED TO THOSE PERMITS.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO STARTING WITH, UM, AGAIN, CHAPTER NINE, TWO IS THE PART OF THE AUSTIN CITY CODE THAT FOR THE MOST PART HAS, UM, THE REGULATIONS AND POLICY RELATED TO NOISE AND AMPLIFIED SOUND.

UM, LIKE MOST CITIES, AUSTIN HAS SOME GENERAL PROVISIONS RELATED TO NOISE AND SOUND THAT PROTECT RESIDENTS FROM UNREASONABLE DISTURBANCES, UH, UH, OFTEN AT NIGHT.

SO LOOKING ON THIS SLIDE, THE SORT OF HIGHEST LEVEL GENERAL RESTRICTION IS NOISE MAY NOT BE AUDIBLE TO AN ADJACENT BUSINESS OR RESIDENTS BETWEEN 10:30 PM AND 7:00 AM.

AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF MORE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT STILL HIGHER LEVEL, UM, KIND OF REGULATION STILL HOLDS.

BUT AT A BUSINESS, THERE IS ALSO A LIMIT OF 85 DECIBELS BETWEEN 10:00 AM.

AND 2:00 AM AT THAT BUSINESS IS PROPERTY LINES.

SO THEY STILL HAVE TO NOT BE AUDIBLE TO AN ADJACENT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LIMIT AT THEIR PROPERTY

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LINE.

AND THAT'S ALSO NOT AUDIBLE BETWEEN 2:00 AM AND 10:00 AM.

AND THEN THERE'S A SECTION ON RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS A BIT DIFFERENT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

SOUND EQUIPMENT IS LIMITED TO 75 DECIBELS FROM 10:00 AM TO 10:00 PM.

AND AFTER 10:00 PM, IT CAN'T BE AUDIBLE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE OF THAT RESIDENCE.

SO THESE BROAD KIND OF ONE SIZE FITS ALL TYPES OF GENERAL RESTRICTIONS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WORK FOR GENERAL ISSUES LIKE MAT RESIDENCES, PARTIES, THINGS IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.

UM, IT DOESN'T WORK WELL FOR ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND THAT REALLY, AND THAT REALLY NEEDS A PROGRAM THAT'S SPECIFICALLY IN PROACTIVELY MANAGES ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND.

A LOT OF CITIES TRY TO USE THESE GENERAL RESTRICTIONS FOR THEIR ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND AND IT DOESN'T WORK WELL.

IT LEADS TO CONFLICTS.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PREDICTABILITY THERE.

SO AUSTIN IS, UH, ONE OF THE FEW CITIES IN THE U S THAT HAS A REALLY ROBUST KIND OF PROGRAM AND PROCESS FOR ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND.

UM, SO BUSINESSES AND EVENTS CAN GET A PERMIT FOR THE USE OF SOUND EQUIPMENT THAT EXEMPTS THEM FROM THOSE GENERAL RESTRICTIONS.

INSTEAD CREATES A WHOLE NEW PROGRAM.

THAT'S MUCH MORE CUSTOMIZED, DETAILED HAS ITS OWN ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.

NOW, SO FULLY ENCLOSED ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENTS CAN TYPICALLY MEET THE GENERAL RESTRICTIONS BY JUST CLOSING THEIR DOORS AND WINDOWS, BUT IN AUSTIN, OUTDOOR MUSIC IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR CULTURE, OUR NIGHTTIME ECONOMY, AND BY ITS NATURE, IT'S GOING TO BE AUDIBLE GENERALLY TO SOMEONE.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S UM, WHY WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM.

IT SUPPORTS LIVE MUSIC AND NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT BY ALLOWING THEM TO GET THIS PERMIT AND, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND ESPECIALLY VERY CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WHAT IT ENABLES THE STAFF TO DO IS, UM, PROVIDE CUSTOMIZED AND CONTEXT SENSITIVE ALLOWANCES THAT WORK TO BALANCE, HAVING ROBUST LIVE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT AND MAINTAINING RESIDENTIAL QUALITY OF LIFE.

UM, BUT NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT IS TO ASSESS AND LIMIT IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT BOTH OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND AT ESTABLISHMENT AND RESIDENTIAL QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO THERE'S THREE TYPES OF PERMITS THAT RELATE TO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.

UM, THESE ARE FOR, FOR BUSINESSES, IT ALSO RELATES TO CIVIC PROPERTIES.

IT DOES NOT RELATE TO RESIDENTIAL.

THIS IS JUST, UM, COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC.

UM, THE FIRST IS THE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT.

THIS ALLOWS OUTDOOR AMP, UH, I GUESS ONE STEP BACK, ALL OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND AT COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT REQUIRES ONE OF THESE PERMITS.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT.

IT, UM, ALLOWS OUTDOOR SOUND ON A REGULAR AND RECURRING BASIS.

THIS IS AN ANNUAL OPERATING PERMIT.

UM, IT'S RENEWED ANNUALLY.

WE HAVE A TEMPORARY USE OF SOUND EQUIPMENT PERMIT.

THIS IS MUCH MORE INFREQUENTLY USED.

UM, IT'S FOR, UM, A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS THE OUTDOOR SPACE ALREADY IN ITS CEO.

IT'S ALREADY A OCCUPIED SPACE AND THEY WANT TO ON A ONE-TIME BASIS HAVE OUTDOOR MUSIC OUT THERE.

AND THE LAST ONE DOESN'T RELATE TO CHAPTER NINE, TWO, IT'S MANAGED UNDER CHAPTER FOUR 20, WHICH IS THE SPECIAL EVENTS ORDINANCE WE'VE IN AUSTIN, CREATED A COLLABORATIVE OF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT TOUCH SPECIAL EVENTS AND GIVE THEM A ONE-STOP SHOP AND IT'S BETTER COORDINATION.

UM, AND, UM, SO GENERALLY THE SPECIAL EVENTS, THOSE ONE-TIME SHORT TERM THINGS GENERALLY ARE UNDER A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

SO NOW I'M JUST GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REVIEW PROCESS, UM, THE PURPOSE OF, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK MOSTLY ABOUT THE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT, UM, THE SPECIAL EVENTS ARE ENFORCED DIFFERENTLY.

UM, YEAH, THROUGH OUR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT, DAVID'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT OF IT.

UM, THE PURPOSE OF

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EVERY PERMIT INCLUDES A SOUND IMPACT PLAN.

IT SPECIFIES THE ALLOWANCES AND RESTRICTIONS FOR DECIBEL LIMITS AND OPERATING HOURS AND OTHER DETAILS THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT HAS TO COMPLY WITH.

AND THE CITY CODE SETS MAXIMUM SOUND LEVELS AND HOURS, AND THAT'S FOR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN CONTEXT.

SO PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT REGULATION AND DIFFERENT HOURS.

UM, AND CODE ALSO SETS THE CRITERIA FOR OUR REVIEW.

THE STAFF CONDUCTS THAT REVIEW AND THEN CUSTOMIZES ALLOWANCES AND RESTRICTIONS.

THIS IS IN A CONTEXT SENSITIVE WAY.

AGAIN, IT'S NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL.

IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT WHERE IT IS IN TOWN, DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT OUT IN AN OUTLYING AREA.

IS IT ON A CORRIDOR? IS IT CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL? ALL OF THAT IS FACTORED IN NEXT SLIDE.

UM, MOST OF THIS STUFF COMES DIRECTLY FROM CODE.

UM, MORE DETAILS ON THE REVIEW PROCESS WE'RE REVIEWING FOR POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

AND THAT MAY INCLUDE, AND USUALLY INCLUDES ONSITE INSPECTIONS, TESTING AND TAKING SOUND MEASUREMENTS, DISCUSSIONS WITH NEARBY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT FROM STAKEHOLDERS.

THERE ARE ACTIVE RESIDENT GROUPS, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.

UM, IT'S A KIND OF PROCESS THAT INVOLVES THOSE STAKEHOLDERS AND TESTING IS DONE FOR EACH NEW SITE.

AND OFTEN WE WILL CONDUCT TESTING AT THEIR PROPERTY LINE, BUT ALSO AT AN, A NEARBY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, IF THERE IS ONE AND, AND THEY MAY BE INVOLVED IN THE TESTING.

UM, THE CRITERIA FOR OUR REVIEW INCLUDES, AGAIN, THIS IS FROM CODE THE SUITABILITY FOR OUTDOOR MUSIC BASED ON TOPOGRAPHY AND PROXIMITY TO OTHER USES, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL, THE SIZE AND CAPACITY OF THE SITE.

HOW BIG, HOW MUCH, HOW MANY PEOPLE IS IT COVERING? HOW BIG IS THE SOUND SYSTEM AND HOW MUCH IS IT TRYING TO COVER IN TERMS OF AREA? AND THEN WE LOOK AT SOUND MITIGATING, DESIGN FEATURES, UM, STAGE CONSTRUCTION AND ORIENTATION, THE SIZE AND LOCATION AND DIRECTION OF SPEAKERS, ANY SOUND BUFFERING, ANY ARCHITECTURAL INTERVENTIONS AND OUR STAFF.

UM, WE SPEND TIME RESEARCHING LOOKING INTO NEW TECHNOLOGY AND SOUND SYSTEMS AND ARCHITECTURAL IMPROVEMENTS LIKE MASS LOAD LOADED BARRIERS THAT MAY BE, CAN BE INSTALLED.

WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME LOOKING FOR THOSE PROVIDING GUIDANCE AND, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS.

SO TO TRY TO ALLOW AS MUCH SOUND INSIDE THE ESTABLISHMENT AS POSSIBLE AND LIMIT WHAT'S COMING OUT.

UM, AND THEN OUR REVIEW FINDINGS NEED TO INCLUDE APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION AS WELL AS ANY APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AND CODE SPECIFICALLY POINTS OUT THAT IF NECESSARY TO PROTECT PUBLIC PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, MORE RESTRICTIVE DECIBEL LEVELS AND HOURS OF OPERATIONS CAN BE ESTABLISHED AND THEY TYPICALLY ARE CODE GIVES US THE MAXIMUMS, BUT THEN IT'S CUSTOMIZED AND CONTEXT SENSITIVE.

AND, UM, NEXT SLIDE, I THINK WE'RE UP TO DAVID.

AND SO, UM, UM, DAVID, I SHOULD'VE MENTIONED CHAPTER NINE TO THOSE GENERAL RESTRICTIONS ARE ENFORCED JUST LIKE OTHER VIOLATIONS OF CODE BY EITHER CODE ENFORCEMENT OR APD.

IT'S GENERALLY A PD FOR THOSE BECAUSE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS AN OUT, BUT FOR THE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMITS, WE'VE GOT A SPECIAL ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS DAVID CHAPMAN, ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, DIVISION MANAGER, UH, AS OF JANUARY AROUND JANUARY OF LAST YEAR, WE STARTED ENFORCEMENT OF, UH, OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES.

UM, I'VE BEEN DOING ENFORCEMENT FOR A WHILE NOW FOR THE CITY.

AND SINCE THE PERMITTING SIDE CAME OVER TO DSD, THEY TASKED ME WITH THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE.

UM, WE HAVE TWO STAFF MEMBERS THAT DO THE ENFORCEMENT AT NIGHTTIME, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT IN THE EVENING TIMES IN

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AUSTIN, TEXAS ENJOYING THEMSELVES.

AND, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S OUR GUYS, SAFETY IS A BIG CONCERN FOR US.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THEM PAIR UP A LOT OF TIMES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SAFE OUT THERE.

UM, WE DID SOME WALK-THROUGHS OF OUR HOT AREAS.

UH, WE HAD, WELL OVER 120, 130 COMPLAINTS COMING IN CONSTANTLY WHEN WE FIRST TOOK THIS ON, IN SOME HOT AREAS OF TOWN, UH, SOME, SOME ENTERTAINING AREAS OF TOWN.

AND SO WE STARTED CHECKING THE OMB PERMITS, MAKING SURE THAT THE ESTABLISHMENTS WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR PERMIT, WITH THEIR SOUND IMPACT PLAN.

AND THEN WE COMMUNICATED WITH THOSE, UH, MANAGERS OF THE ESTABLISHMENTS, THE OWNERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE MET THEM OUT ONSITE.

WE, WE DID A LOT OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THE GOOD AND THE BAD, AND ALSO REACHING OUT TO THE GOOD, THE ONES THAT ARE BEING WE'RE BEING GOOD IN GIVING THEM A LITTLE PAT ON THE BACK TOO.

UM, WE DID THIS FOR A COUPLE MONTHS.

AFTER A COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE FOUND OUT THAT A FEW ESTABLISHMENTS NEED A LITTLE MORE ASSISTANCE COMING INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO WE STARTED ISSUING CITATIONS.

UM, ON THIS SECTION OF CODE, THERE IS NOT A, UM, A VERBAL OR WRITTEN OR STOP WORK ORDER.

LIKE THERE IS ON OUR, ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, BUT THERE IS WHERE WE CAN ISSUE VIOLATION AND ALSO ISSUE A CITATION.

WE, WE WERE DOING THE VERBAL VIOLATIONS WHEN WE WERE MEETING WITH THEM AND WE LET THEM KNOW THAT IT WAS VIOLATIONS.

AND THEN ONCE WE STARTED STOPPED THAT PROGRAM, WE STARTED ISSUING THE CITATIONS.

UM, THE CODE SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT IF THEY HAVE FOUR VIOLATIONS IN 45 DAYS, THAT WE CAN SUSPEND THE PERMIT.

SO FOR SOME OF THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS, THEY WERE GETTING CLOSE TO THOSE FOUR VIOLATIONS.

IN 45 DAYS, WE BROUGHT THEM IN, WE HAD A MEETING ONSITE, UH, MYSELF AND ONE OTHER STAFF MEMBER MET WITH THEM ONSITE.

WE DISCUSSED NINE TWO SPECIFICALLY AND WENT THROUGH THE CODE IN DETAIL WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS WERE AS A CITY STAFF MEMBER AND WHERE THIS WAS HEADED.

IF THEY STAYED FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURES THAT THEY WERE FOLLOWING OR NOT FOLLOWING THE CODE THAT THEY WEREN'T FOLLOWING.

UM, THE MEETINGS START, WE STARTED OUT WITH JUST A FEW, UH, SITES THAT NEEDED THE MEETINGS.

UH, WE HAD THOSE MEETINGS, THOSE SITES ACTUALLY TURNED AROUND, STARTED COMING INTO COMPLIANCE.

WE MET OUT ON THE SITE WITH THEM, ACTUALLY WENT OVER THEIR IMPACT PLAN WITH THEM.

AGAIN, WENT OVER THE READINGS THAT WE WERE GETTING AT THE LOT LINES, UH, AT THE PROPERTY LINES AND MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS TO WHERE THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT OUR EXPECTATION WAS AND WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE.

UH, WE'VE HAD A FEW OTHER SITES THAT HAVE STARTED TO DROP OFF A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE'VE BROUGHT THEM IN FOR MEETINGS TO, UH, WE'VE LET THEM KNOW FOR VIOLATIONS IN 45 DAYS, WE CAN SUSPEND THE PERMIT.

UH, WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE SUSPEND A PERMIT, WE'RE GOING TO SUSPEND THAT PERMIT FOR TWO WEEKS.

IF FOR ANY REASON THEY CONTINUE TO OPERATE DURING THAT TWO WEEKS, WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR REVOCATION OF THAT PERMIT, REVOCATION OF THAT PERMIT MEANS NO SOUND.

AND AS YOU KNOW, NIGHTLIFE IN AUSTIN IS BIG.

WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD THE SITE MEETINGS, THE CITATIONS, AND THEN THE MEETINGS AT OUR NEW PDC FACILITY WITH THOSE FOLKS, SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM GOING THAT FAR INTO ENFORCEMENT.

WE ARE GETTING CLOSE WHERE WE MAY HAVE TO SUSPEND SOME PERMITS, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.

UH, WE, A LOT OF THE VENUES HAVE UNDERSTOOD WHERE WE'RE AT AND THEY'RE MAKING THAT CHANGE, THESE FINES.

SO, SO THAT Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THESE FINE AMOUNTS ARE.

THEY'RE $745.

IT'S NOT A LOT WHEN THEY'RE MAKING WHAT THEY'RE MAKING OFF OF ALCOHOL SALES AND A PARTY GOING ON AT NIGHT AT THESE VENUES.

SO IN COMPARISON WITH OUR 2060 $4 ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, ON THIS SIDE, IT'S ONLY $745 A FINE IF IT GOES TO MUNICIPAL COURT,

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THAT IS PER VIOLATION.

SO IF THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE SURROUND SOUND IMPACT PLAN, THEY HAVE EXTRA SPEAKERS THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE.

WE CAN VIOLATE THEM FOR THAT.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE PERMIT, WE CAN VIOLATE THEM FOR THEIR PERMIT BEING EXPIRED OR NOT HAVING THAT PERMIT.

AND THEN ALSO IF THEY'RE OVER THE DECIBEL LIMITS, WE CAN SIGN THEM FOR THAT.

AND ONE LAST ONE IS IF THEY'RE OPERATING AT, OUT OF THE DECIBEL RANGE, AFTER THEIR CUTOFF, WE CAN SIGN THEM FOR THAT ONE.

ALSO NEXT SLIDE, QUICK RESOURCES, LIKE I SAID, NINE TWO GOES IN GRAVE DETAIL OF HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ENFORCE.

UH, IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE PERMITTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THERE'S A LINK FOR THE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE APPLICATION, AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER LINK FOR US ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTIONS, SO THAT YOU CAN CONTACT US.

UH, THE SOUND ENFORCEMENT STAFF IS LISTED ON THERE, UH, AS THAT UNDER OUR PHONE LISTING, UH, THEY COVER THE WHOLE CITY.

SO SOMETIMES WE'RE FROM RAINY STREET TO, TO DOMAIN BACK SOUTH TO WEST SIXTH, UH, AND ALL IN A NIGHT'S WORK.

SO THEY'RE OUT IN THE EVENING TIMES, THEY'RE OUT LATE AT NIGHT AND I ACTUALLY MAY GO JOIN THEM AFTER I LEAVE HERE JUST TO DO SOME WALKTHROUGHS WITH THEM.

SO WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY NIGHT, UH, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, THE WEEKENDS AS YOU KNOW, ARE MORE ACTIVE, BUT WE ARE OUT, UH, SOMEBODY, ONE OF US THREE OR OUT THERE EVERY NIGHT, NEXT LUCK.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR Y'ALL Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.

UM, YEAH, I JUST WOULD, COULD STAFF COME UP HERE FOR JUST A MINUTE, IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ASKED FOR THIS BRIEFING IS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES WHERE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT SOUND MITIGATION AND OF SOUND BEING MANDATED.

AND WE HAVE TO KEEP SAYING THERE THERE'S ALREADY A SOUND ORDINANCE AND THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOUND ORDINANCES ALREADY.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY.

WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING MORE THAT WE CAN DO WITH SOUND.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

LIZ JOHNSTON WATERSHED PROTECTION, UH, THIS ISSUE GOT RAISED DURING A RECENT DISCUSSION ABOUT A PUD AND, UM, IT IS SOUND, UM, IS IN THE BYLAWS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, BUT WE DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT IT THAT MUCH.

AND SO THIS WAS KIND OF EDUCATION FOR YOU ALL AND FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AND WHAT CAN BE ENFORCED AND WHAT CAN'T BE.

I THINK IT'S JUST AN EDUCATION.

AND IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT LIKE, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD CONSIDER FOR PROJECTS COMING FORWARD? UM, RELATED TO SOUND WE COULD, WE COULD, THIS COULD BE THE STARTING OFF POINT FOR, FOR THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION.

THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

FIRST COMMISSIONER BEDFORD, ARCTIC PUSHY.

I'LL TAKE, I'LL TAKE Q AND A.

NOW I JUST WANTED IT TO GET EVERYBODY CLEAR ON WHY WE WERE HAVING THIS.

I'M GOING TO START OVER HERE.

HEY, Y'ALL UM, YOU KNOW, AS A MUSICIAN, THIS, THIS IS DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT THE YOUNG, RIGHT.

THE SCUMBAGS VERSUS THE OLD FARTS IN THE CONDOS OR THE RICH PEOPLE, RIGHT.

HAVE WHERE YOU WANT TO SPIN IT.

UH, SO I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING.

THANKFULLY, THE ST.

ROUND ROCK.

SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT LESS TO DO.

UM, YEAH, MY QUESTION WAS AS FAR AS LIKE OUTREACH, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT.

YOU'RE MEETING WITH BUSINESS OWNERS, RIGHT.

UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS, HAVE YOU ALL REACHED OUT TO LIKE THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE OR, YOU KNOW, RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT? I DON'T KNOW IF RAINY HAS A CULTURAL DISTRICT, THE SAME WAY THAT RED RIVER DOES, OR, YOU KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT REPRESENT HOTSPOT AREAS, STUFF LIKE THAT TO TRY AND GET, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE CONVERSATIONS STARTED WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS.

THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT AND HISTORICAL SIXTH IS, IS THEY HAVE A SPECIAL ORDINANCE.

THEY CAN RUN TILL TWO IN THE MORNING.

UM, THOSE AREAS WE DON'T ENFORCE FOR THE MOST PART ON OUR SIDE, WE ENFORCE ON THE OMS, OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA OF TOWN.

UM, WE WE'VE OUTREACHED TO EVERY ONE OF THE MANAGERS, EVERY ONE OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS, THE DOOR GUYS.

I MEAN, WE SHAKE HANDS WITH DOOR GUYS EVERY NIGHT.

UM,

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WE W WELL, WE FIST BUMPS NOW.

UH, BUT, BUT WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM EVEN WHEN THEY'RE DOING GOOD.

UH, I LIKE TO SEE MY GUYS GIVE THEM PROPS FOR DOING GOOD TOO.

AND SO WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE, THEY'RE DOING THAT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THOSE STAFF MEMBERS.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, BEFORE WE EVER GO TO SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION, I'M BRINGING THEM IN FOR ANOTHER CONSULTATION SO THAT WE CAN GO OVER IT IN DETAIL AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BEF BEFORE WE GET THERE, WE, OUR WHOLE GOAL IS TO GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE WHERE WE DON'T GET THERE, RIGHT.

THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, SLIP UP, ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE GUY CONTROLLING THE SOUND ON HIS PHONE MIGHT BE IN THE BACKS, SERVING MARGARITAS THAT NIGHT AND MAY FORGET TO PUSH THE BUTTON AT THE RIGHT TIME.

WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IF IT'S HAPPENING IN EVERY NIGHT, WE GOT PROBLEM.

AND SO WE BRING THOSE FOLKS IN AND TALK TO THEM.

UM, SO, SO THERE IS OUTREACH.

WE HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO SPECIFIC GROUPS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THEY ALL HAVE A GROUP CHAT.

THEY ALL COMMUNICATE TO EACH OTHER, ESPECIALLY ON RAINY AND SIXTH STREET, BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHEN WE HIT THE STREET, WHICHEVER SIDE OF THE STREET WE START AT, IF WE START IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, THEY ALL KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE WE GET 10 STEPS DOWN THE STREET.

SO THEY COMMUNICATE QUITE WELL.

UM, AND JUST COMMUNICATING WITH SOME OF THE OWNERS THAT I'VE COMMUNICATED WITH ALREADY, THEY'VE DONE OUTREACH TO.

SO, UH, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S GOING IN A GOOD, GOOD DIRECTION.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING, UH, YES, I, I WAS AWARE THAT, UM, SOUND IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS MENTIONED BRIEFLY IN OUR PURVIEW AND AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, BUT, UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME, UH, THAT IT'S, UH, VERY WELL DELINEATED AS TO WHAT SOUND THAT INCLUDES.

UM, AND WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING TO ME SOUNDS, UM, PRIMARILY TO BE IN THE NATURE OF, OF, UH, VENUES THAT ARE COMMERCIAL, UH, WHAT'S THE SITUATION IS, IS THAT, IS THERE A SPECIFIC ORDINANCE, UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, OR HAVING, UH, SOME SAY OVER IT, ARE THERE SPECIFIC ORDINANCES THAT YOU FOLLOW FOR, FOR THE COMMERCIAL SITES IT'S RIGHT.

OR THEIR ORDINANCES, UH, LIKEWISE FOR, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

WHAT ABOUT, UH, S UH, CONSTRUCTION WHERE SOMEONE COMES IN WITH A JACKHAMMER AT SIX IN THE MORNING, OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, OR WHAT ABOUT, UM, UH, PEOPLE WHO KEEP ROOSTERS THAT, UH, CROW, UH, DAY AND NIGHT, UM, IS IT, WHAT, WHERE DO THESE, ALL THESE THINGS FALL AND IS THIS WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE SO NINE TO DOES TALK ABOUT THE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION NOISE, UM, THEY, THEY HAVE A PERMIT FOR AFTER HOURS CONSTRUCTION, UH, THAT GOES THROUGH A PERMITTING PROCESS ALSO, UM, JUST LIKE THE OMFS, UH, WE ENFORCED THE OWEN VS IF IT'S A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, A HOUSE PARTY GOING ON THAT'S APD, UM, OR CODE, BUT NORMALLY THAT'S GOING ON WHEN CODE IS NOT AROUND.

SO IT'S APD, UH, STATE LAW REGULATES THAT STATE LAW REGULATES 85 DECIBELS AT, AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT AT THOSE AFTER HOUR TIMES.

UM, IT WAS DEFINED IN SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT WERE PRESENTED BY BRIAN ALSO.

SO, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN CODE, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A STATE LAW FOR RESIDENTIAL, ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT ON MY SIDE OR OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES AND THE PERMANENT ONES.

SO THINGS LIKE ROOSTERS WOULD BE, UH, IS THAT, UH, GOVERNED BY THE STATE.

I'M NOT, UH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, THERE THERE'S QUITE A FEW FACTORS THAT MAY BE INVOLVED ON LIVESTOCK.

UM, THERE, THERE MAY BE, UH, UH, ZONING THERE, THERE MAY BE OTHER ISSUES THAT ACTUALLY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR CODE.

I KNOW CODE AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAVE HAD CASES ABOUT LIVESTOCK IN THE

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CITY LIMITS BEFORE.

SO THAT THAT'S MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THEM.

I, I DON'T DEAL WITH LIVESTOCK.

WHAT WHOSE CODE IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, IT WAS COLD, UH, UH, AVD AUSTIN CODE DEPARTMENT IS A INDEPENDENT DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR ENFORCEMENT OF CODE VIOLATIONS.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO DAVID MENTIONED THERE'S STATE LAW, THE TEXAS PENAL CODE, WHICH HAS SOME THINGS RELATED TO NUISANCES.

UM, IT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE USUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY HAVE TO BE, I MEAN, APD CAN COME OUT FOR THOSE.

UM, IT MAY BE THAT A CITIZEN NEEDS TO FILE AN AFFIDAVIT ON THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PROCESS FOR DEALING WITH THOSE KINDS OF NUISANCES THAT ARE IN STATE LAW, AND THEN CITY CODE OF COURSE SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE NOISE OR PLAY MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE AUDIBLE TO YOUR ADJACENT NEIGHBOR AFTER 10 30.

SO THAT CAN BE ENFORCED BY APD OR AUSTIN CODE AS WELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M GOING TO GO UP TO THE ZOOMERS.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING UP THERE? YOU MEAN? YES, GO AHEAD.

PIXAR.

I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.

UM, ONE OF MY FRIENDS IS A MANAGER AT A MUSIC VENUE, AND HE HAS SAID THAT HE FEELS LIKE DEPENDING ON THE, THE WEATHER THING, THAT'S KIND OF THE ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS THAT THE SOUND SEEMS TO TRAVEL DIFFERENTLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY DIFFERENT EVENINGS KIND OF, DEPENDING ON THE WIND DIRECTION AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, UM, SO HE WAS SAYING HOW SOMETIMES THAT CAN MAKE IT EVEN MORE CHALLENGING WHEN TRYING TO, UM, CONTROL, YOU KNOW, THE SOUND FROM SOME OF THOSE OUTDOOR VENUES.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I THINK DEFINITELY.

AND IT'S THE LARGER, THE SOUND SYSTEM.

THE MORE THAT THAT COMES INTO PLAY, IT CERTAINLY COMES INTO PLAY, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY, BUT, UM, I THINK BIGGER SOUND SYSTEMS, BIGGER FESTIVALS, WIND IS, UH, CAN BE A HUGE IMPACT WHEN WE GET HEAVY, STRONG NORTH WINDS DURING AUSTIN CITY LIMITS FESTIVAL, WE'LL SEE THE SOUND TRAVEL, YOU KNOW, EIGHT MILES VERSUS WHEN IT'S NOT WINDY.

IT WON'T TRAVEL NEAR THAT FAR, YOU KNOW? SO YEAH.

UM, IT, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

I, AND I GUESS I'M JUST SAYING THAT, CAUSE I GUESS SO, SO ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, THERE, THEY'RE PERMITTED TO HAVE A CERTAIN SOUND AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

IT'S, IT'S THEIR JOB TO REGULATE THAT SOUND, TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY DO HAVE THOSE OTHER THINGS AFFECTING THEIR SOUND THAT THEY'RE MITIGATING FOR IT RIGHT.

UM, WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE BAD GUYS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, TELLING THEM THAT, THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT.

WE WANT THEM, MOST OF THEM HAVE THE EQUIPMENT RIGHT ON THEIR PHONE, OR THEY HAVE A SOUND PERSON THAT WORKS FOR THEM.

THAT'S MAKING THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AND DOING THOSE CHECKS.

SO IF THEY'RE DOING THEIR PART, WE JUST, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP AND SAY, OKAY, WE GOT THIS COMPLAINT, BUT IT'S INVALID.

SO THANKS AGAIN, COMMISSIONER.

UM, THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.

WE'RE NOT FULLY THERE YET, BUT WE'RE IN A LOT BETTER SPOT THAN WE WERE IN JANUARY, I GUESS, THE LEFT.

THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY ON THAT, JUST TO REALLY REINFORCE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING PREDICTABILITY WITH THE PERMIT, WITH THAT TESTABLE LEVEL, THAT'S AT THE PROPERTY LINE THAT'S BEEN TESTED, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT THE WEATHER'S DOING.

WE'VE DONE THAT ON THE FRONT END WITH THE TESTING.

AND REALLY, IT REALLY DOESN'T COME INTO PLAY EXCEPT FOR THE LARGER VENUES.

UM, BUT THE PREDICTABILITY IS THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE BASED ON A NEW RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IT, BUILDING, MOVING IN NEAR THEM OR WHAT THE WEATHER'S DOING THAT DAY.

THEY JUST NEED TO MANAGE THE SOUND SYSTEM TO MANAGE THAT LEVEL AT THEIR PROPERTY LINE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

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THOMPSON.

WHY? YES, NO COMMISSIONER SCOTT ANSWERED MINE.

AND I WILL SAY BEING FROM DISTRICT NINE, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS I'VE BEEN IN, HOW Y'ALL HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE TO RESOLVE THINGS FOR US.

YOU KNOW, THE WALNUT CREEK TRAVELING SOUND, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IT IN AND OUT AND BACKWARDS.

AND, UH, Y'ALL REALLY, Y'ALL REALLY BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEIGHBORS AND, UH, PARTICULARLY OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL Y'ALL HAVE DONE THESE YEARS.

CAN I, CAN I SAY ONE LAST THING? IF, IF FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE AN AREA THAT IS HAVING CONTINUAL ISSUES, THEY CAN CONTACT 3, 1, 1, UH, THOSE THREE, ONE ONES.

IF THEY DO IT THROUGH THE MOBILE APP, WE ACTUALLY MONITOR THAT MOBILE APP.

UH, AS WE'RE OUT ON THE STREET, WE CAN MONITOR IT SO THAT STAFF IS CHECKING THOSE COMPLAINTS AS THEY COME IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO CHECK AND MAKE WITHIN HOPEFULLY 30 MINUTES OR SO, WE'RE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THE AREA, CHECKING TO SEE WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

SO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT THAT WE'RE USING THE 3 1, 1 APP, AND IF AT ANY TIME WE NEED TO MEET WITH AN AREA WHERE WE'RE WILLING TO MEET WITH THEM TOO, AND, AND DISCUSS WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE.

[3.c. Make a recommendation regarding the creation, continuation, or termination and status of Lady Bird Lake concessions contained in the 2021 Annual Report of City of Austin/Parks and Recreation Department Managed Concessions on Town Lake— Margaret Stenz, Contract Management Specialist, Parks and Recreation Department (30 minutes)]

WE GO.

WE ARE AT THREE C MAKE RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE CREATION CONTINUATION IN TERMINATION AND STATUS OF LADY BIRD, LAKE CONCESSIONS CONTAINED IN THE 2021 ANNUAL REPORT OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT MANAGED CONCESSION ON TOWN LAKE.

HELLO, COME ON UP.

WHO'S HERE TONIGHT.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MAGGIE STEBBINS.

I'M THE CONTRACT MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST, THREE, FOUR PARKSON PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND, UM, THIS IS PAT ROZETTE THE COSTCO, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO OUR ANNUAL CONSISTENT REPORT.

MAGGIE IS GOING TO GO TO THE REPORT WITH YOU, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.

OKAY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO AS YOU KNOW, HER AUSTIN CITY CODE, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS REQUIRED TO PRESENT AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE PARKS BOARD AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION REGARDING THE CONCESSIONS IN TOWN LAKE PARK, ALSO KNOWN AS LADY BIRD, LAKE PARK.

THE REPORT MUST PROVIDE THE NAMES AND LOCATIONS OF THE CONCESSIONS, THE INCOME AND EXPENDITURES FOR EACH CONCESSION FOR THE PAST FISCAL YEAR, THE NUMBER OF BOATS RENTED ON LADY BIRD, LAKE, AND ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS CAUSED BY CONCESSIONS.

DOCK AND STORAGE CAGES TO STORE THEIR LARGE SUP INVENTORY.

THIS MAP REPRESENTS THE CURRENT CONCESSIONS AROUND LADY BIRD LAKE THAT DOES, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL THE EXISTING CONCESSIONS FOUND THROUGHOUT THE PARK SYSTEM.

JUST THE LADY BIRD LAKE AREA NEXT, PLEASE.

THIS GRAPH REPRESENTS THE CONCESSIONS INCOMES, UM, REPORTED EXPENDITURES AND PAYMENTS TO THE CITY FOR FYI 21.

THE DARK BLUE BAR REPRESENTS GROSS SALES.

THE ORANGE BAR REPRESENTS REPORTED EXPENDITURES AND THE GRAY BAR REPRESENTS CONCESSION PAYMENTS TO THE CITY, INCLUDING MONTHLY FLAT FEES AND REVENUE SHARE NEXT, PLEASE.

AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU, UH, THAT THE TOTAL CONCESSION, IT SHOWS THE TOTAL CONCESSION GROSS SALES OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, THERE WAS A DIP IN 2020 DUE THE DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, BUT IN 2021 HAS BY FAR BEEN THE BEST YEAR EVER FOR PARK.

UM, CONCESSIONS, NEXT SLIDE, UM, IN TERMS OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE BY THE CONCESSIONS.

UM, THE MAIN STORIES THIS YEAR ARE THE RENOVATIONS AT BUTLER PITCH-IN PET AND TEXAS ROWING CENTER.

AND, UM, THIS LIST, JUST SOME OF THE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAPPEN AT BUTLER PITCHING PET.

UM, WE CONTRACTED THE CITY CONTRACTED WITH A NEW OPERATOR IN 2019, AND THEY CLOSED FOR RENOVATIONS FROM JULY, 2020 THROUGH MARCH, 2021 WITH THE GRAND REOPENING ON APRIL NINE.

UM, ALSO TEXAS ROWING CENTER COMPLETED A 1.1 MILLION PROJECT MILLION-DOLLAR PROJECT THAT ADDED 9,000 SQUARE FEET OF DOCK SPACE, UH, TO 3000 SQUARE FEET BOAT HOUSES ON TOP OF THE NEW

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THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ABOUT 10 YEARS IN THE WORKS AND THE MAJOR RESULT IS NOW THAT MOST OF, UM, THE ROWING CENTERS OPERATIONS OCCUR ON THE DOCK, NOT ON THE TRAIL, ALLOWING MORE ROOM FOR TRAIL USERS AS THEY PASS THE ROWING CENTER.

THIS CHART SHOWS THE NUMBER OF WATERCRAFT IN EACH CONCESSIONS, RENTAL INVENTORY, THE TEXAS ROWING CENTER AND AUSTIN ROWING CLUB INVENTORIES ALSO INCLUDE ROWING SHELLS AND COACHING LAUNCHES THAT ARE USED FOR LESSONS, CLUBS, CAMPS, ET CETERA.

AND A NEW ADDITION THIS YEAR IS THE FLEET OF ELECTRIC BOATS THAT OPERATE OUT OF WALNUT CREEK BOAT HOUSE.

THE OPERATOR IS A SUBCONTRACTOR OF AUSTIN ROWING CLUB CALLED RETRO BOAT RENTALS.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE CURRENT CONTRACT TERMS FOR EACH OF THE CONCESSIONS.

THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF RECEIVED FROM THE PARKS BOARD LAST YEAR REGARDING CONCESSION DEVELOPMENT AND CONCESSION REPORTING.

AND SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WE'RE INCORPORATING IN OUR, UM, IN CONCESSIONS AND HOW WE OPERATE THE NEXT THREE SLIDES ADDRESS STAFF'S RESPONSE TO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE WERE ASKED TO REPORT ON CONCESSIONS OUTSIDE OF LADY BIRD LAKE.

UM, THE CONCESSIONS OUTSIDE OF LADY BIRD LAKE ARE MOSTLY, UM, SHORT TERM PERMITS.

THE PERMIT PROCESS FOR TEMPORARY CONCESSIONS IS OVERSEEN BY THE, UM, SPECIAL EVENTS OFFICE IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

PERMIT TYPES ARE SIX MONTH PERMITS AND SINGLE DAY PERMITS.

AND THEY'RE ISSUED FOR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY SUCH AS VENDING OR MERCHANDISE SALES, FITNESS TRAINERS AND PERFORMING ARTISTS.

THE TABLE LISTS THE COST PER PERMIT.

THE NUMBER OF PERMITS ISSUED FOR A FYI 21 AND THE TOTAL REVENUE FOR EACH PERMIT TYPE.

THERE WILL BE MORE INFORMATION ON TEMPORARY CONCESSIONS IN THE WRITTEN REPORT THAT REBAR WILL HAND IN TO THE COUNCIL.

NEXT SLIDE, IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE PARKS BOARD HAS ASKED US TO COMMENT ON PARD STRATEGIC PLANS TO INCREASE PARK CONCESSIONS.

THIS SLIDE LISTS THE ELEMENTS OF THESE ONGOING EFFORTS.

UM, SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE, BUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DOING NUMEROUS THINGS TO INCREASE PARK CONCESSIONS, NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS LISTS SOME OF THE PARKS, UM, THAT ARE IN THE VISION PRO UH, VISION PLANNING PROCESS AND WHETHER POTENTIAL FOR OUR CONCESSIONS HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED.

SO IF YOU, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT PART PLANNING STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED A POTENTIAL FOR BOATING AND PADDLING CONCESSIONS AT WALTER ELONG AND JOHN TREVINO, AND SEVERAL ADDITIONAL SITES WHERE FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCESSIONS MAY BE A POSSIBILITY, BUT ANY IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE CONCESSIONS IS STILL A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

AND, UH, JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SEA HOME INTAKE BUILDING BECAUSE, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION HAS ASKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST.

UM, PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION, UH, HAS RECENTLY BEGUN, BUT THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY OF A CAFE, BUT THAT'S UNFUNDED AND THERE'S NO DEFINITE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

TO NOTE THAT THESE NUMBERS DO NOT REFLECT THE NUMBER OF BOATS ON THE LAKE AT ANY GIVEN TIME, ONLY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF RENTALS BY PARD CONCESSIONS.

SO WE GET TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UM, THIS COMMISSION GAVE US, UM, LAST YEAR WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS REPORT AND, UM, WE HAVE FOLLOWED ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR COMPLIANCE EFFORTS.

UM, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES WITH MARINE, UH, NEXT SLIDE WITH MARINE WASTE DISPOSAL.

UM, THIS PURSE, THIS PERTAINS, UM, TO LONESTAR RIVERBOATS, WHICH HAS ONE VESSEL WITH AN ONBOARD TOILET.

AND AS YOU SEE THERE, MULTIPLE GOVERNMENTAL BODIES THAT REGULATE THIS TYPE OF BOAT.

AND, UM, AS PART OF PARTS CONTRACT COMPLIANCE, WE REQUEST COPIES OF MANIFESTS TO MAKE SURE THAT LONE STAR RIVERBOATS COMPLIES WITH ALL STATE AND CITY REGULATIONS.

AND AS YOU'VE ASKED US, UM, WE PROVIDE COPIES OF THE MANIFESTS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS IN THE WRITTEN REPORT THAT WE SUBMIT TO COUNCIL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS SLIDE ADDRESSES CONCERNS FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS REGARDING LIGHT CAPACITY FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS PART HAS ASKED THE CONCESSIONS TO RECORD THE NUMBER OF RENTALS EACH DAY DURING DESIGNATED PEAK PERIODS.

THE TABLE HERE SHOWS THE TOTALS FOR EACH EIGHT DAY PERIOD.

IT'S IMPORTANT

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THESE DATA SHOW THAT THE NUMBER OF BOATS RENTED HAS INCREASED EACH YEAR CORRESPONDING WITH AN INCREASE IN THE TOTAL RENTAL INVENTORY, WHICH I SHOWED ON A PREVIOUS SLIDE.

WE KNOW ANECDOTALLY THAT THERE'VE BEEN MANY MORE BOATS ON THE LAKE IN THE PAST TWO SUMMERS WHEN THOUSANDS OF AUSTINITES TOOK TO THE WATER IN SEARCH OF SAFE, OUTDOOR RECREATION OPTIONS DURING COVID.

BUT EVEN BEFORE COVID BOATING ON LADYBIRD LAKE WAS ONE OF THE MORE POPULAR ACTIVITIES IN AUSTIN FOR RESIDENTS AND TOURISTS.

NEXT SLIDE, THIS SLIDE ADDRESSES STAFF RESPONSES TO OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE PARKS BOARD AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CON, UM, COMMISSION.

AND WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO IN OUR NEW SOLICITATIONS, WE CONSIDER THE PHYSICAL, SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL CAPACITY OF THE LAKE AND INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS REQUIREMENTS IN EACH OF THE REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON ALONG WITH CORPORATE PURCHASING, UH, WORKING ON, UM, COMING UP WITH STANDARD CONTRACT TEMPLATES FOR ALL CONCESSION CONTRACTS.

NEXT SLIDE, AS WE CONCLUDE THIS PRESENTATION OF THE ANNUAL CONCESSIONS REPORT, WE WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH A SUMMARY OF THE CHARITABLE ACTIVITIES OF THE CONCESSIONAIRES AS PART OF THEIR AGREEMENT TO MANAGE THE WALLER CREEK BOATHOUSE.

AUSTIN ROWING CLUB IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND FREE PROGRAMMING TO UNDERSERVE YOUTH, INCLUDING SCHOLARSHIPS, TO COVER ROWING FEES AND FREE BOAT RENTALS FOR PARTS, SUMMER CAMPS, AND OTHER YOUTH GROUPS.

UM, WHILE NOT, WHILE NOT REQUIRED BY CONTRACT TO OTHER VENDORS, ALSO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN NUMEROUS WAYS.

AND HERE'S A LIST OF, OF A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO.

THEY INCLUDE, UM, HOSTING OR PARTICIPATING IN FUNDRAISING AND LATE CLEANUP EVENTS, DONATING SERVICES AND GIFT CARDS, AND OFFERING DISCOUNTED RATES TO STUDENTS AND OTHER GROUPS AND PARTICIPATION IN LAKE CLEANUP AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION EFFORTS IS REQUIRED IN ALL NEW WATERCRAFT RENTAL CONTRACTS.

SO, UM, LAST NIGHT WE PRESENTED THIS REPORT TO THE PARKS BOARD AND WE'RE PRESENTING IT TO YOU TONIGHT AND PER CITY CODE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THESE TWO PRESENTATIONS, UM, PARD STAFF WILL SUBMIT A WRITTEN REPORT TO BOTH THE PARKS BOARD AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

THE JOINT REPORT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND THE PARKS BOARD, UM, WILL BE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL.

SO OUR REQUESTED ACTION TONIGHT IS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION REGARDING, UM, REGARDING CREATION, CONTINUATION, TERMINATION, OR STATUS OF A CONCESSION, INCLUDING ISSUANCE OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR CONCESSION IN TOWN, LAKE METROPOLITAN PARK FOR INCLUSION IN THE JOINT REPORT BETWEEN THE PARKS BOARD AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION THAT IS PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL ANNUALLY.

AND, UM, THANKS AGAIN FOR LETTING US, UH, PRESENT OUR CON ANNUAL CONCESSION REPORT.

AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

OH, LET'S BEGIN DOWN HERE.

SO, BUT WE CAN'T, I CAN'T GET HERE.

MR. ROMBERG, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, CAPACITY AND YOU, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT OVER THE YEARS.

UM, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, KIND OF THE COVID EVERYONE OUT ON THE LAKE WAS A, WAS A PEAK.

BUT, UM, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED TO HIM SEVERAL TIMES ON THIS COMMISSION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT ON THE LAKE, UM, BOTH CONCESSIONS AND NOT.

AND, UH, AND I KNOW WE'VE, UH, ASKED IN PREVIOUS YEARS, LIKE FOR AN ESTIMATION DURING THOSE PEAKS, NOT JUST OF CONCESSIONS, BUT OF TOTAL NUMBERS, HAVE YOU ALL BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, TO GET AN ESTIMATION OF KIND OF SPRING BREAK MEMORIAL OR FORT WORTH? I MEAN, SORRY, 4TH OF JULY OR LABOR DAY, LIKE WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER ARE OUT AT THE LAKE.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE CONCESSION NUMBERS.

AT ONE YEAR, WE DID GO OUT WITH THE AFD AND WE DID KIND OF A, A VERY INFORMAL CASUAL OBSERVATION.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, IS IF ANYBODY ON THIS COMMISSION AS LA, AS WELL AS ANY AUSTIN CITIZEN, THE THERE'S BEEN QUITE AN INCREASE IN THE USE OF THE LAKE BY DIFFERENT WATERCRAFT ORGANIZATIONS AND BEYOND OUR CONCESSIONAIRES.

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OH, YOU NEED YOU TO, OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE'LL, WE'RE GOING TO WORK.

I, OUR DIRECTOR IS WORKING WITH WATERSHED TO PUT TOGETHER A STUDY TO REALLY LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF WATERCRAFT ON THE LAKE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT BETWEEN OUR TWO DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN WE WILL CONSIDER WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT, AND ALSO WORK WITH AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT ON LAKE SAFETY.

SO THAT THAT'S IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW.

IT HAS NOT INCLUDED.

IT HAS NOT EVEN BEGUN.

WE'RE JUST IN THE TALKING STAGE OF PUTTING THIS, THIS STUDY TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON THE NUMBER OF WATERCRAFT ON THE LAKE.

DO YOU, DO YOU THINK THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN YOUR NEXT ANNUAL REPORT IN THE COMING, I GUESS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YOU COULD RECOMMEND THAT WE, WE CONDUCT A STUDY AND WE IN, IN JOINT EFFORT WITH WATERSHED TO ACHIEVE THIS.

W IT'S IN THERE.

UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ELECTRIC BOATS.

UM, I KNOW THERE WAS ONE INCIDENT, AT LEAST IF YOU COULD MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON HOW THAT IS GOING TO BE PREVENTED OR WHAT EDUCATION COMPONENTS ARE INVOLVED IN THAT NOW IMMEDIATELY, WHEN WE HEARD, WHEN WE, IT WAS REPORTED TO US THAT THIS INCIDENT HAD OCCURRED, WE CONTACTED THE VENDOR AND TOLD HIM TO STOP OPERATIONS.

THAT WAS OUR FIRST REACTION.

THEN WE PUT, WE SENT OUT OUR SAFETY TEAM TO DO AN INSPECTION AND TO CHECK AND TO INTERVIEW EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED TO WRITE UP A REPORT.

WE EVEN CONTACTED THE STATE OF TEXAS T T UH, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT TP WD ASK THEM TO FOLLOW UP AS WELL.

AND IN CONCLUSION, WE MET WITH THE, WITH THE CONCESSIONAIRE AND THEY CHANGED SEVERAL OF THEIR POLICIES ON HOW THEY OPERATE THE BOATS.

AS A RESULT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE MADE THAT RESULTED FROM OUR SAFETY REPORT.

AND DOES THAT INCLUDE EDUCATING, EDUCATING, AND ALSO COMMUNICATION? UM, WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS THEY DIDN'T HAVE, THEY WOULD JUST GO OVER THE WRITTEN OPERATION, BUT DIDN'T GIVE IT TO THE ACTUAL CONSUMER.

AND NOW THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE IT TO THE ACTUAL CONSUMER, MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR, UH, LIFE VEST ON, NOT JUST AS YOU RECALL, THEY HAD IT UNDER THE BOW.

SO THEY'RE RE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BECOMING MUCH MORE VIGILANT OR HAVE BECOME MUCH MORE VIGILANT ON EDUCATING THE CONSUMER BEFORE THEY USE THESE RETRO BOATS.

AND AT ANY GIVEN TIME WE SHOWED 15, BUT THERE'S ONLY FIVE OR SIX IN THE WATER.

THEY'RE NEVER 15 OUT OF THE WATER.

THEY NEVER RENT THAT MANY.

THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO RE RENT FIVE OR SIX, BUT THEY HAVE A SUPPLY OF 15.

PERFECT.

AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, THE, THE ALGAL BLOOMS AND, YOU KNOW, THE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING VARIOUS REPORTS OVER THE YEARS ABOUT HOW THAT AFFECTS DOGS AND PETS.

UM, ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY SIGNAGE THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE CONCESSIONAIRES OR PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR CONCESSIONAIRES, FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE POTENTIALLY BRINGING THEIR DOGS ONTO THE BOAT ON A CANOE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO WE WERE REQUIRING ALL OF OUR NEW SCOPES OF WORK, AND WE'RE GOING TO RE WE'RE GOING TO AMEND ALL OF OUR CURRENT CONTRACTS TO INCLUDE EDUCATION ON THE ALGAE BLOOMS, ALSO ON MUSSELS.

AND BEFORE THEY EVER GO OUT, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SAFETY, A SAFETY AND AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM BEFORE THEY CAN RENT THEIR WATERCRAFT.

PERFECT.

THAT WAS ALL THAT.

ZIMMER'S ANYONE UP THERE? THOMPSON BARTLETT.

EXCUSE ME, WHEN I WAS ON A, UM, A TOUR MYSELF ONE TIME, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE, UH, UH, BOATS THAT GOES OUT AND, UH, SEES THE BATS, UM, FROM THE BOAT.

I'LL START DOWN HERE WITH BEDFORD KRISHA.

HI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I KNOW THESE THINGS ALWAYS TAKE A LOT OF TIME AND, UM, I DO APPRECIATE, UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, AND IT'S, UH, IMPART JUST, UH, THAT I'M NEW TO THIS.

AND, UH, SO OTHER PEOPLE MAY ALREADY KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I ASKED, BUT, UM, IS THERE A REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, ANYONE ON THE WATER, UH, HAVE, UH, A LIFE JACKET OR A LIFE VEST? BECAUSE I, I, I DON'T RECALL, UM,

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AND I, I DON'T RECALL THAT THAT ANY, UH, ANY OF US, EXCUSE ME, I'M LOSING MY VOICE.

UH, HE HAD, UH, LIFE JACKETS ON, UM, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY, BUT I'D HATE TO SEE, UH, A MAJOR SORT OF, UH, COLLISION AND DISASTER THAT WELL, ALL OF OUR CONCESSIONAIRES ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW WATER SAFETY AND WHICH INCLUDES LIFE JACKETS.

UH, THE, THE EXCURSION YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS NOT A CITY OF BOSTON CONCESSIONAIRE.

SO THEY WOULD, THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WHATEVER REGULATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY.

OH, OKAY.

I DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE TOURISTS MORE THAN ONE.

THEY WERE VERY MANY PRIVATE FIRMS OUT THERE AND THERE'S INDIVIDUALS WITH THEIR OWN WATERCRAFT.

UH, SO THE ARE CONSISTENT OWNERS ARE NOT THE ONLY CONTRIBUTORS TO THE WATERCRAFT ON THE WAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALRIGHT.

UH, BEFORE WE GO TO OUR SPEAKERS JUST VERY QUICKLY, I'VE BEEN REPRESENTING US ON THE DISTRICT OVER THERE.

IT'S CALLED THE SOUTH WATERFRONT OVERLAY DISTRICT.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT AS CONCESSIONS COMING TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT ENDEAVOR'S GOING TO HAVE IN THAT WHOLE AREA, THEY'RE ARE GOING TO, UH, IT'S THE OLD STATESMAN BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO COME FORWARD AND BE AROUND, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW, IT'S GOING TO BE A MINI MANHATTAN OVER THERE EVENTUALLY.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SHORELINE.

THEY'RE PROTECTING THAT SHORELINE LIMITATION OF CONCESSIONS IN THAT AREA.

SO WOULD YOU KEEP US INFORMED AS THAT DEVELOPS OUT THERE, THEY'RE GOING FORWARD WITH A PEER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THERE.

AND WHEN WE TELL YOU THE WORD PEER CONCESSIONS, USUALLY, UM, VERY QUICKLY RIGHT BEHIND IT, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE SENSITIVITY OF THE BATS AND KEEPING ANY KIND OF CONCESSIONS FAR AWAY FROM THE BATS AND DISTURBING, SPECIFIC, UH, SHORELINE.

SO I'M SURE WE'LL WORK WITH WATERSHED ON THOSE SORTS OF, OF ITEMS, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.

AND LASTLY, UH, WHEN I WAS INVOLVED IN THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS FOR THE TREVINO PARK, UM, THERE'S A HUGE, UH, FISHING, UH, GROUP OF FISHERS OUT THERE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY FEARFUL TO HAVE CONCESSIONS THAT WOULD COME AND DISTURB THIS BEAUTIFUL, PRISTINE, YOU KNOW, COLORADO RIVER SHORE LINE THAT, UH, THAT THEY ACCESS AND, AND KEEP VERY DEAR TO THEIR HEARTS.

YES, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM.

THEY'VE SPOKEN SEVERAL TIMES AT OUR PARKS BOARD'S MEETING.

OKAY, GOOD, GOOD.

AND AS YOU RECALL, THE CODE REQUIRES THAT ANY NEW CONCESSION WE HAVE TO CUT ON TOWN LAKE, WE HAVE TO COME ONCE AGAIN TO YOU AND GET YOUR APPROVAL BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY NEW CONCESSION ON TOWN LAKE.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR ALL.

YOU'VE DONE.

GO AHEAD.

FIRST SPEAKER IS CHRIS HAS LOW OR HAS LOP.

YOU'RE YIELDING.

AND THEN I THINK, UM, ADAM SHEDLOSKI, ARE YOU YIELDING AS WELL? I THINK SO, YES.

KIMBERLY CAMRY, DUDA.

I APOLOGIZE.

I BUTCHERED THAT VICE CHAIR RIVER AND SHE WILL GET SIX MINUTES.

CO-CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE SERVICE TO OUR ENVIRONMENT.

AND IT'S REFRESHING TO HEAR SO MANY COMMITTED CITIZENS TOWARDS OUR ENVIRONMENT HERE IN AUSTIN AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY PUBLICLY THANK PARD FOR YOUR TIRELESS OUT HOURS AND EFFORTS AND ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT THROUGHOUT OUR PROCESS.

MY NAME'S KIMERY DUDA.

I'M THE FOUNDER OF THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL.

I FOUNDED THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL IN 2006, BASED ON THE MAGICAL TRANSFORMATIONS I WITNESSED IN THE FIELD WITH THE STUDENTS I WAS WORKING WITH.

I GREW UP HERE IN AUSTIN AND I WOULDN'T BE THE PERSON I AM TODAY WITHOUT THE ACCESS AND UTILIZATION

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OF THE PARKLAND, THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL, DOESN'T JUST RENT, WE TEACH.

AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

SINCE OPERATION, WE HAVE A PERFECT SAFE SAFETY RECORD.

I'M NOT ONLY THE FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL.

I'M ALSO THE EMS DIRECTOR FOR WESTLAKE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.

I SERVED AS THE CO-CHAIR TO THE CENTRAL TEXAS WATER SAFETY COALITION.

AND I'M OFTEN AT THE STATE CAPITOL ADVOCATING FOR BILLS FOR JOHN AND PREVENTION AND WATER SAFETY.

THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL IS AN AUTHORIZED PROVIDER OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.

WE TEACH SAFETY COURSES AND IN FACT, OVER 200 LIVES HAVE BEEN SAVED BY OUR STUDENTS.

WHO'VE TAKEN OUR SAFETY COURSES.

SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT WITH THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL WHEN WE WERE AWARDED A CONCESSION WE'RE THE WE'RE THE YOUNGEST CONCESSION ON THE LAKE, AND I'M SO PRIVILEGED TO BE OPERATING ON THE EAST SIDE.

WE'RE LOCATED TEMPORARILY OUT OF FESTIVAL BEACH BOAT RAMP, AND WE'RE THE ONLY CONCESSION EAST OF 35 ON THE NORTH SHORE.

AND I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT IS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA.

SINCE WE OPENED OUR DOORS IN DECEMBER OF 2020, THESE ARE OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

AND I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO HEAR FROM AN ACTUAL CONCESSIONAIRE TONIGHT, JUST THE IMPACT AND THE PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.

WE ARE ALL OFFICIAL WATER QUALITY TESTING TESTERS FOR THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY.

WE DO WEEKLY WATER QUALITY TESTS WITH OUR STAFF, AS WELL AS OUR STUDENTS FROM LOCAL AREA SCHOOLS.

THIS DATA IS THEN SUBMITTED TO LCRA AND POSTED ON LCRA WEBSITE.

JUST THIS YEAR, WE'VE CLEANED OVER ONE TON OF TRASH OUT OF THE LAKE.

WE'VE CLEANED OVER TWO TONS OF TRASH ON PARKLAND AND OVER 500 POUNDS OF RECYCLING.

WE DON'T JUST DO THIS EVERY TWO MONTHS.

WE DO THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY WE'RE OPERATING.

WE PROACTIVELY WORKED TO PREVENT ALTERCATIONS AND ESCALATIONS AT FESTIVAL BEACH BOAT RAMP AND MADE OVER A DOZEN 9 1 1 CALLS.

AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING OPERATING OUT OF FESTIVAL BEACH BOAT RAMP WAS WE BECAME PRIVY TO HOW MANY RENEGADE BUSINESSES WERE OPERATING UNDER THE RADAR.

AND WHAT WAS FRUSTRATING FOR US WAS TO JUST SEE THE GROSS NEGLIGENCE OF SAFETY.

THEY WERE ADVERTISING ON AIRBNB AND VRVO FOR THESE AUSTIN ADVENTURES.

AND THEY WOULD SHOW UP WITH THEIR TRAILERS, PUT THE PEOPLE ON THE WATER.

THEY WERE ALL DRINKING ALCOHOL THERE'S PHOTOS OF PEOPLE JUMPING OFF OF THE RED BRIDGE FROM THE LOGIN.

AND IT WAS VERY CHALLENGING.

AND SO ONE OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IS ALSO SAFETY BECAUSE DROWNINGS DO HAPPEN ON LADY BIRD LAKE, AND THEY'VE HAPPENED THIS YEAR.

SO IT'S NOT JUST LIFE JACKETS WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.

IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING MORE EYES TO UNDERSTAND AND TICKET THESE, THESE BUSINESSES THAT SHOULDN'T BE OPERATING ON THE WATER.

WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH APD LAKE POLICE, THE PARK RANGERS.

WE ARE ON A FIRST NAME BASIS WITH BRENT BALLINGER FROM WATERSHED, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING INDIVIDUALS OUT ON THE WATER IN THE CLEANEST WATER.

WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES THAT WE DO NOT PUT PEOPLE ON THE WATER WHEN THE CYANOBACTERIA IS UP OR EVEN AFTER A RAIN.

SO WHEN HE WAS DESCRIBING THE, THE MURKY SLUSH WATER, YOU KNOW, THE SOLUTION TO POLLUTION, ISN'T DILUTION, IT'S ACTUALLY TIME TO LET THOSE NITRATES AND FECAL MATTER FLOAT DOWN.

SO WE, WE MAKE SURE WE DON'T PUT PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY STUDENTS ON THE WATER.

DURING THOSE TIMES, WE PROVIDED FREE GUIDED PADDLE SESSIONS TO SEVERE COGNITIVE DISABLED ADULTS AND BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED INDIVIDUALS THROUGH OUR NONPROFIT 5 0 1 C3, THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL FUND.

SO THIS IS A NONPROFIT THAT WE STARTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HONORED THE INCREDIBLE DIVERSITY OF AUSTIN.

SO WE HAVE BOTH STATE SCHOOLS HERE IN AUSTIN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF NONPROFITS THAT SERVE ADULTS WITH SEVERE COGNITIVE DISABILITIES AND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BLIND AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED AND DEAF.

AND WE PROVIDE FREE OUTDOOR PROGRAMMING FOR THEM AND HAVE FOR MANY YEARS, WE CONSISTENTLY EDUCATE ALL PADDLER'S INCLUDING OUR LOCAL YOUTH ON RIPARIAN ZONES, THE IMPORTANCE OF WATER QUALITY, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT,

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FLORA FAUNA IDENTIFICATION, AND OUR HIGHLAND LAKE SERIES WHILE INSPIRING ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

IN FACT, WE JUST HOSTED ABOUT 150 SOPHOMORES FROM AUSTIN HIGH SCHOOL.

AND WE DO THIS FUN GAME WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN AND PICK UP TRASH.

AND WE GIVE YOU A PRIZE FOR THE MOST UNUSUAL OBJECT FOUND.

AND IT'S AMAZING HOW MUCH TRASH THOSE KIDS PICK UP WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOT A PRIZE WINNING FOR THEM.

UM, WE'RE STORYTELLERS.

AND WE HONOR THE RICH HISTORIC AND CULTURAL LEGACY OF THE COMMITTED INDIVIDUALS OF YOU STOCKTON.

AND NO ONE HAS EMBODIED THIS LIKE MADAM CHAIR AND ALSO LORRAINE GRANDMA CAMACHO, WHO THE CAMACHO CENTER IS NAMED AFTER.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M JUST, MY SCREEN JUST WENT BLANK.

WE ALSO DO LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS.

WE PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS TO DIVERSE GROUPS TO CONSISTENTLY AND SAFELY ACCESS THE WATER AND PADDLING.

AND WE SERVE EVERYONE.

WE HAVE A MOTTO YOU BELONG HERE.

AND SO IT'S A PRIVILEGE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE COMES IN A WHEELCHAIR, WE CAN GET THEM ON THE WATER.

IF SOMEONE HAS CEREBRAL PALSY OR CYSTIC FIBROSIS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ACCESS THE WATER SAFELY.

AND WE HAVE JUST PUT FORWARD A LONG-TERM CONTRACT PROPOSAL TO PARD, WHERE WE WANT TO BUILD A WORLD-CLASS ADAPTIVE SPORTS PADDLING CENTER ON THE EAST SIDE, AND THAT CATERS TO EVERYONE.

AND I JUST WANTED AGAIN, SAY THANK YOU AND INTRODUCE MYSELF AND JUST AGAIN, TELL Y'ALL WHAT A PRIVILEGE AND HONOR IT IS TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY IN THIS CAPACITY, BEING AN AUSTIN KID, AND THEN ALSO BEING ABLE TO OPERATE A SMALL BUSINESS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WILL AND GOOD EVENING HONORED TO BE UP HERE, TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT MY PASSION OF WHAT I DO, UH, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS AN OUTDOOR EDUCATOR AND PROFESSIONAL GUIDE AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TO THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL.

I'M ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CONCESSIONS ON THE LAKE.

I'M PRIVILEGED TO WORK IN AND SURROUND MYSELF BY PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTED TO PRESERVING, PROTECTING, AND EDUCATING ON THE MINI URBAN WILDERNESSES OF AUSTIN.

WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN OUR ABILITY TO EDUCATE AND INSPIRE OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS OF AUSTINITES FROM THOSE PRIMARY SCHOOL AGE LEARNERS, WRITING THE MOST HEARTFELT LETTERS TO THE EARTH, TO OUR GROWING CROP OF RECENTLY RELOCATED RESIDENTS THAT ARE STREAMING IN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD IN AWE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF AUSTIN, JUST LAST WEEKEND, WORKING AT OUR BOATHOUSE ON THE NORTHEAST SHORE OF THE RIVER, I WAS ABLE TO GET A FAMILY FROM PALESTINE, KAYAKING ON THE WATER AND TO HELP CELEBRATE A WEDDING FOLLOWED SHORTLY THEREAFTER BY FOUR BROTHERS SEEKING REFUGE FROM AFGHANISTAN IN THEIR CANOES.

THEIR SMILES WERE EAR TO EAR.

ALL OF THEM WERE ECSTATIC TO SHARE IN THE WONDERS OF ONE OF BOSTON'S CROWN JEWELS SAFETY IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT WATER SAFETY AND DROWNING PREVENTION.

EVERY EXPEDITION SCHOOL PARTICIPANT, REGARDLESS OF AGE EXPERIENCE OR SWIMMING ABILITY WEARS A LIFE JACKET.

AND EACH PADDLER RECEIVES GROUND SCHOOL FROM OUR GUIDES HIGHLIGHTING THE BASICS OF PROPER TECHNIQUE, SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS, AND RISK MANAGEMENT.

WHILE ON THE WATER, WE WE'RE EQUALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.

WE LOVE SHARING OUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE OUTDOORS, SCRAPED, VERY STEWARDS THAT WILL CARE FOR AND INTERACT WITH THIS LAND.

LONG AFTER WE WERE GONE, WE SHARE THE LOCAL FLORA AND FAUNA, THE HISTORY OF AUSTIN AND ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COLORADO RIVER.

WE MONITOR THE WATER QUALITY OF THE RIVER AND SUBMIT THIS DATA TO THE LCRA.

AND WE TEACH ABOUT THE ECOLOGY OF THE REPAIRING CORRIDOR RUNNING THROUGH OUR CITY.

THE VERY RESERVOIR BEHIND ME WAS RENAMED FOR LADYBIRD JOHNSON, WHO ALONG WITH A CADRE OF COMMITTED POLITICIAN, MENTALISTS HAD THE VISION TO PUT THE POLISH ON OUR URBAN WATERWAY.

THEY SHIELDED IT FROM THE HAZARDS OF POLLUTION AND DEVELOPMENT AND HELPED TO HIGHLIGHT IT AS A RESOURCE FOR AN INCREDIBLE WEALTH OF LIFE AND BIODIVERSITY.

IN FACT, THE VERY SITE OF OUR CITY WAS CHOSEN GIVEN THE MANY ASSETS THAT COLORADO PROVIDED.

I'M PROUD THAT MY PROFESSION AND EMPLOYER WORKS SO DILIGENTLY TO UPHOLD THE SAME VALUES OF ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION AND STEWARDSHIP THAT OUR CITY HAS VALUED FOR DECADES.

COULD YOU PLEASE, COULD YOU PLEASE SEND YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION TO US? ABSOLUTELY.

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THANK YOU ALL.

HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE'LL DO IT FOR YOU.

SHE, I AM.

HOW LOW DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AND EMOTION THERE? DO WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR NO, NOT POSTED.

UM, SO I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE, UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, PREPARED THIS.

I'M GOING TO READ IT.

SO, UM, THIS IS, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MOTION 2 0 2 1 1 2 0 0 2 A DECEMBER 1ST, 2021, UH, 2021 ANNUAL REPORT, THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT MANAGE CONCESSION ON A TOWN LAKE, WHICH ACTUALLY SHOULD BE LADYBIRD LAKE.

UH, THAT'LL BE WANTING TO CHANGE THAT, UM, MOTION BY JENNIFER BRISTOL.

AND I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD PUT, UM, KEVIN MEMBER ON THERE AS WELL, SECONDED, UH, BY, UH, TBD TO BE ANNOUNCED.

UM, WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED A STAFF RECENT BRIEFING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, OF THE 2021 ANNUAL REPORT OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT MANAGED CONCESSIONS ON LADY BIRD LAKE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS CONTINUATION OF THE CONCESSION CONTRACTS ON LADY BIRD, LAKE PARK WITH THE FOLLOWING ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONS, ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS.

UM, NUMBER ONE CONSISTS, UH, WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT COMMISSION'S PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE 2022 ANNUAL REPORT.

PARD STAFF WILL VERIFY THAT THREE YEARS OF RECORDS FOR MARINE WASTE DISPOSAL HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED FOR ANY ENTITY THAT PUMPS WASTE ON LADY BIRD LAKE.

AND THAT THESE MONTHLY RECORDS ARE INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.

GOING FORWARD TO PARD STAFF SHOULD REVIEW THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE BOATS THAT ARE TYPICALLY ON LADY BIRD LAKE.

AND IF THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED INCLUDING CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN RESCUE TEAMS AND THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT HARD SHOULD CONTINUE WORKING ON THE CONSISTENT, CONSISTENT, AND CONDITIONS AND THE VARIOUS CONTRACTS TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE INCLUDE THE WASTE PUMP OUT DATA AND THE 2022 ANNUAL COURT AND FIVE CONSIDER THE PHYSICAL SOCIAL ENVIRONMENTAL CAPACITY OF LADY BIRD LAKE PARK WHEN ANTICIPATING UPCOMING SOLICITATIONS AND SIX PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON ANY NEW CONCESSION, INCLUDING THE SEAHOLM POWER PLANT AND ZILKER PLAN.

COMMISSIONER BARRETT, BACHELOR.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

LET'S YES.

COULD YOU ASK HER TO, UM, AN UPDATE ON WHAT AGAIN, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

DID YOU INCLUDE THE, THE NEWSPAPER SITE, THE SOUTH AUSTIN? UH, WE DIDN'T, BUT I ASKED Y'ALL TO LET US KNOW NEXT YEAR OR TO LET US KNOW IF Y'ALL HEAR OF ANY CONCESSIONS COMING UP.

THEY SAID THAT THAT WOULD COME BACK TO US IF THERE WAS A CONCESSION PERMITTED ON THAT AREA.

SO WE JUST SORT OF LEFT IT, LIKE, OKAY.

SINCE THAT, THAT, THAT IS STILL BEING CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL, IT HASN'T HAD A VOTE YET.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE CAN INCLUDE IT CAUSE IT'S STILL NOT AN ACTUAL, WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING AND TECHNICALLY THAT WOULD FALL UNDER NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS, UM, CONSIDERING THIS SOLICITATIONS UPCOMING UPCOMING SOLICITATIONS.

UM, UM, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VERSATILE.

UH, DID WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT, UH, LET'S COMMISSION COMMISSIONER RAMBERT QUESTION ABOUT CAPACITY INCLUDED IN THERE? YES,

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IT WAS SORRY.

I WAS, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL RECOVERING FROM MY FOOT SURGERY, SO I HAD TO PUT MY FOOT UP.

I KIND OF MISSED A LITTLE BIT OF IT, BUT OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND THAT ONE IS, UH, UH, NO ON NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

SHE HAS COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

UM, THE, THE, THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT SOME ACTIVITIES ON THE LAKE THAT ARE, UM, KIND OF OUT OF LINE, IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY NEED, UM, FOR THAT TO, IN SOME WAY BE ADDRESSED? I, DON'T NOT SURE THAT IT, THAT IT SHOULD BE IN THIS PARTICULAR MOTION.

IT WOULD SEEM LIKE THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE ISSUE, BUT I, UM, I DID WANT TO TAKE NOTE OF IT IN, BECAUSE IT IS A CONCERN.

IF THERE ARE PEOPLE BEHAVING RECKLESSLY, UM, CAN YOU ADDRESS IF SOMEONE REPORTS AN ILLEGAL BUSINESS, HOW DO Y'ALL ADDRESS AN ILLEGAL CONCESSION? I KNOW WE, WE CONTACT THE SPECIAL EVENTS OFFICE WHEN WE RECEIVED THAT TYPE OF COMPLAINT AND THEY ISSUE A NOTICE AND THEY GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE AS WELL.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? MAGGIE? I KNOW THAT THEY DO A COUPLE OF MORE STEPS IN ADDITION TO THAT.

WE'VE, WE'VE HAD, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, IF WE ARE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO THESE VENDORS ARE, WE'VE HAD, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TO JUST LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND THEY NEED TO HAVE A PERMIT.

WE'RE NOT REALLY, IT'S NOT ALLOWED.

UM, SO THERE HAS BEEN THOSE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED.

UM, I WANT TO SAY DOZENS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, 30 OR 40, UM, INQUIRIES FROM DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT WANT TO GET A PERMIT TO OPERATE ON THE LAKE.

AND SO WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST SEEM TO THINK THAT YOU CAN JUST OPERATE ON THE LAKE AND JUST OPEN UP A BUSINESS BECAUSE, HEY, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

UM, BUT WE TELL THEM, WELL, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CONCESSIONS IT'S REGULATED BY THE PARKS BOARD AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND COUNCIL.

UM, AND WE JUST EXPLAINED TO THEM WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

IF THERE'S A CONTRACT THAT OPENS UP THAT GOES OUT FOR SOLICITATION, THAT THERE, HOW THEY CAN BID ON IT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CAN FIND INFORMATION ABOUT THE, THE RFPS, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO, UM, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO THESE ROGUE VENDORS ARE.

WE JUST HEAR ABOUT THAT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DAYS LATER, UM, AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE TELL PEOPLE TO CALL 3, 1, 1 AND REPORT IT, BUT IF IT'S REALLY AN APD, UM, THING, AND, AND IF APD, THEY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE IT'S REALLY OUT OF OUR HANDS IN A LOT OF CASES, BUT WE DO ISSUE A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER IF WE CAN IDENTIFY THE BUSINESS, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE DO CALL IN A COMPLAINT, THEY GIVE US THE BUSINESS NAME, WE LOOK THEM UP ON THE INTERNET AND THEN THE SPECIAL EVENTS OFFICE WILL ISSUE A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER AND CONTACT THEM DIRECTLY.

THE SPECIAL EVENTS OFFICE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM OUR FUNCTION, BUT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DO THE SHORT-TERM PERMITS.

AND THEN THE LAKE PATROL TO ADDRESS YOUR, YOUR, UH, CONCERN ABOUT ACTIVITIES THAT ARE UNSAFE OR ACTIVITY THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN ON THE LAKE.

THERE IS A LAKE PATROL, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT, THAT CREW IS LIMITED AS TO THE NUMBER OF BOATS AND A NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT CAN COVER THAT VERY LARGE AREA, AS YOU WILL KNOW.

SO, OKAY.

SO I GUESS WE JUST, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, THE LAKE PATROL IS THAT UNDER APD IS AS IN POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THAT'S APD ATD.

BOY, I'M LOSING MY VOICE IF HE, OKAY.

YEAH, ALLERGIES ARE BAD RIGHT NOW.

I THINK ALL OF US ARE SUFFERING.

THAT'S HELPFUL INFORMATION.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSIONS PRIOR TO A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES NINE OUT.

WHAT, WHAT THOMPSON IS THAT A YAY OR NAY? I SAID, YEAH.

WE DID KIND OF GET THINGS STRAIGHT ABOUT, UM, THE COMMITTEES AND SO WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN.

NINE MOTION CARRIES NINE.

THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

FABULOUS WORK.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SHARING THAT AND STAYING SO LONG TO DO THAT.

ANY UPDATES ON ANY REPORTING ANY, UH,

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DOES ANYONE HAVE A CLOCK? HOLD ON 9:00 AM TO NINE 10.

WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN.

[4. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

SORRY.

UH, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

I'M SORRY.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT HAD ENOUGH.

AF UPDATES UPDATES ON BUILDING AUSTIN TOUGH F U R F DATES A C YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.

OFFICIALLY I AM NOW GOING TO SAY THAT, UM, I'M, UH, FOR ME, UH, A WORK WORKING GROUP, UH IT'S UH, I'M CALLING IT THE BILL AUSTIN, TOUGHER STRATEGIC INITIATIVE OR BATCH.

AND, UH, THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A, UH, CITY COUNCIL WOMAN.

UH, VANESSA FLINT HAS, UH, UH, A TALK THAT SHE, UH, PRESENTED TO US, UH, UH, VERY, UH, CONSISTENTLY ON OCTOBER SIX.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

UM, THE MAIN, UH, CONCERNS THAT HAD BEEN REPORTED TO HER, UH, BY CITIZENS IN HER DISTRICT DISTRICT TWO, WHICH IS WHERE I ALSO LIVE, UH, WHERE MOSTLY WITH REGARD TO FLOODING.

BUT I THINK SHE, UH, SHE MAY ALSO HAVE MENTIONED, UH, THE, UH, WINTER STORMS. AND OF COURSE THAT CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF, UM, UH, FINANCIAL LOSS TO MANY PEOPLE, NOT ONLY IN AUSTIN, BUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE, UH, ENERGY GRID GOING DOWN.

UM, AT THIS POINT WE'RE VERY, WE'RE VERY EARLY IN, IN, UM, GOING FORWARD, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DETERMINE, UH, THAT, THAT WHAT WE DO IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF, OF THE COMMISSION.

WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO TREAD ON ANYBODY ELSE'S TOES AND IT WANTS TO STAY WITHIN, UH, WHAT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO DO.

UH, NEVERTHELESS, UM, I HAVE GONE TO, UM, UH, THE, THE FEMA SITE TO TAKE A LOOK AND, UH, ASSESS WHAT OUR, OUR RISK STATUS IS, UH, FOR, UH, FOR AUSTIN AND I.

AND WHAT I'VE DISCOVERED, UH, REALLY IS THAT, IS THAT WE ARE, UM, IN A LOT WORSE SHAPE THAN, UH, THAN I, UH, ANTICIPATED.

I, I KINDA THOUGHT AUSTIN WAS, UH, A FAIRLY REASONABLE, UH, REASONABLY SAFE PLACE TO LIVE, BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT, UH, COMPARED TO ALL COUNTIES, UH, COUNTRYWIDE, UH, WE, WE ARE, UM, IN THE 94TH PERCENTILE REGARDING, UH, CATASTROPHIC RISK AND BY CATASTROPHIC RISK, THAT MEANS, UM, RISK TO LIFE AND LIMB AND PROPERTY.

AND SO, SO THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.

WE'RE ALSO AT, UH, UH, 92% HIGHER, UH, 92% RISK STATUS COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTIES IN TEXAS.

SO, UM, SO REALLY WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, UH, NUMBER OF ISSUES TO CONSIDER OURSELVES WITH, UM, TAKING A LOOK AT THE VARIOUS POSSIBLE RISKS THAT WE, THAT WE MAY NEED TO MITIGATE, UM, OR CONSIDER, UH, AS IS COMING DOWN THE ROAD.

THE TOP TWO CLEARLY ARE, ARE FLOODING AND TO MY SURPRISE TORNADOES.

UM, AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UH, TO RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, IT'S THE NATURE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SHORT MEMORIES.

SO, UM, GOSH, I DON'T REMEMBER ANY TORNADOES, YOU KNOW, AND IN AUSTIN, ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, 61 TORNADOES RECORDED.

UM, UH, THIS IS FROM A TEN-YEAR-OLD REPORT, SO THERE'S BEEN MORE SINCE THEN 113 FLOODS.

UM, WE'VE HAD ONE MAJOR DAM BREAK.

UM, UH, SO, UM, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD DEATHS FROM, UH, LIGHTNING AND, UM, UH, HEAT STROKE.

UM, UH, SO, SO THE, UH, SO BASICALLY

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THE, THE, THE MAIN CONSIDERATIONS THAT I THINK ARE MOST SIGNIFICANT FOR US TO, UH, TO CONSIDER ARE THOSE THAT ARE CONSIDERED TO BE AT A HIGH RISK AND TO, UM, TO BE IN THE CATEGORY OF PRESENTING, UH, UH, A SIGNIFICANT, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH RISK FOR, UH, EITHER, UM, EITHER AND, UH, LOSS OF LIFE OR LOSS OF PROPERTY.

AND THEN THE TWO, THE TWO CATEGORIES THAT ARE MOST OBVIOUSLY IN THAT RISK ARE, ARE FLOODING AND, UM, AND TORNADOES, TORNADOES ACTUALLY POSSIBLY BEING IN, IN A HIGHER RISK STATUS.

UM, BUT ADDITIONALLY, UM, KIND OF NOT TOO FAR BEHIND ARE SOME ARE, ARE A FEW OTHERS.

UM, AND I, I WON'T GO ON, UM, UH, FOR TOO LONG ABOUT THIS, BUT, BUT IT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, OTHER KINDS OF, UH, UH, WINDSTORMS THAT WE, THAT WE SEE, UH, SEVERE, SEVERE, UH, UH, THUNDERSTORMS, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH, WITH, UH, COMPANIED BY WIND, UH, CAN CAUSE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE, UM, AND, UM, UH, WINTER STORMS. AND, UM, AND THEN ALSO I THINK BECAUSE, UH, ONE THING THAT FEMA HAS NOT LISTED, BUT I THINK IS OF CONCERN, UH, THEN THEY HAVE NOT LISTED IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE, BUT, BUT THAT WOULD BE EXCESSIVE HEAT.

AND, AND I THINK WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING, UM, THE ISSUES THAT, UH, UH, UH, COUNCIL WOMAN FLINT IS, UH, BROUGHT UP, SHE, SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, AUSTIN RESIDENTS WITH, UH, WITH, UH, LOW INCOMES.

AND SO THEY ARE PROBABLY THE MOST AT, AT HIGH RISK FOR, UM, UH, DEATH OR, OR INJURY FROM, UH, FROM HEATSTROKE, UH, BECAUSE OF THEIR ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.

SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER AREA OF CONCERN.

SO, UM, UH, WHAT TO DO ABOUT ALL THIS AS SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY NOT GOING TO GO INTO EXCEPT TO SAY THAT, THAT, UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UH, TO, UM, UH, FIND OUT WHO ELSE IS WORKING ON THIS.

I KNOW THAT, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED, UM, WITH, UM, UH, UH, RESPONSE TO DISASTERS.

UM, THEY'VE ALSO BEEN INVOLVED WITH, UH, WITH, UM, WITH TRAINING, UH, FOR, UM, UH, FIRST AID, UH, UH, RESPONSE TO, UH, UM, UM, EMERGENCIES THAT WERE CITIZENS, MAYBE THE FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND, UH, SO, SO I THINK THAT, THAT, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

THERE ARE, UH, ANY NUMBER OF, UH, UH, PEOPLE, UM, PROFESSORS AND ASSOCIATE PROFESSORS AND SO FORTH IN, IN OUR, UM, UH, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS WHO ARE, UH, RESEARCHING, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE.

UH, AND I KNOW THERE ARE, UH, UH, NEVER A BUSINESSES WHO WORK IN THE AREA OF CLIMATE, UH, CHANGE IN WITH RESOURCES.

SO, SO, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE COMMITTEE OR WORKING GROUP SMALL BECAUSE I SOMETIMES THINK THAT, THAT, UM, THE LARGER A GROUP GETS, UM, SOMETIMES THE, UH, THE MORE BURDENSOME IT AND THE MORE DIFFICULT IT IS TO GET ANYTHING DONE.

SO, UM, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE GROUP, BUT THAT, THAT IS ONE OF WHICH WE PICK AND CHOOSE, UM, CAREFULLY, SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE INCREDIBLE RESOURCES THAT I SUSPECT WE DO HAVE HERE, UH, LOCALLY IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE KNOWLEDGE, AND I DON'T WANT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

I JUST WANT TO PICK UP BITS AND PIECES OF WHAT WE NEED, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, RUMOR HAS, UH, AGREED TO, UH, ALSO BE INVOLVED IN ONE THING THAT WE KNOW IS THAT, UM, SOME THINGS THAT THAT MAY BE NEED TO BE DONE WELL WILL REQUIRE, UM, THE EXPENDITURE OF MONEY, AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE WITH, UH, WITH APPROPRIATE, UM, WITH SETTING THINGS UP APPROPRIATELY TO APPROPRIATE CHANNELS.

AND, UM, IN SOME CASES THAT CAN BE FEMA MONEY.

IN SOME CASES, IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO, UM, TO FIND, UH, FOUNDATIONS OR OTHER RESOURCES.

AND, AND THAT'S AN AREA WHERE, UH, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER BREMMER FEELS THAT HE COULD BE OF PARTICULAR, UH, UH, IMPORTANT IN IDENTIFY

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IN THOSE, THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

SO, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY FOR THE MOMENT.

AND, UH, IF ANYONE HAS ANY, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR, OR COMMENTS, UM, CERTAINLY THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I WANT TO SAY TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND FOR LETTING US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW THIS WORKING GROUP WAS GOING TO PROCEED.

AND SO, UH, I GUESS IT, WHEN Y'ALL MEET KAYLA, WE'LL SIT DOWN TO DOODLE POLL TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE IS INTERESTED IN JOINING AT THAT TIME OR THAT WORKING GROUP.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE YOU DO FOR GROUP IT'S CERTAINLY OPTIONAL? UM, TYPICALLY IF YOU JUST MEANING ON YOUR OWN, I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST FACILITATING THOSE MEETINGS YOURSELF.

IF YOU NEED STAFF TO ATTEND THEN OUTWORK WITH US AND WE'LL HELP YOU.

THANKS.

I APPRECIATE THAT KAYLA.

AND CERTAINLY ANY, IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UH, FIND THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL, UM, WOULD BE, UH, OF INTEREST TO THEM, I WOULD, I WOULD WELCOME THEIR PARTICIPATION AS WELL.

IT'S A, UM, IT'S A BIG UNDERTAKING.

IT'S LIKE SAVING AUSTIN, UH, NOT QUITE, BUT, UH, IT, IT COULD, IT COULD HAVE, UH, THERE COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK INVOLVED IN, SO OF COURSE, UH, IF, IF THERE OTHERS INTERESTED IN, IN BEING PART OF IT, I, UM, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE JOIN.

SO THANK YOU KAYLA, TO KNOW.

ANYTHING ELSE, SORRY, OR RUSHED THROUGH THOSE COMMITTEE REPORTS AND APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT.

THEN IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, WE WILL ADJOURN AT 9 22.