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[00:00:06]

OKAY, GOOD EVENING.

[CALL TO ORDER]

I'LL CALL THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION HEARING TO ORDER FOR DECEMBER 8TH, 2021.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE TIME IS 6:40 PM.

MY NAME IS ANDREA FREIBURGER.

I AM CHAIR OF THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION.

WELL, THE OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT TONIGHT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAMES AND WE'LL START.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL START TO MY RIGHT THIS EVENING.

GO AHEAD, EDDIE.

I DON'T THINK YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON.

YOU FIGURED IT OUT.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

EDGAR FERRERA WITH DISTRICT EIGHT, ELIZABETH MUELLER DISTRICT FIVE WORDY THOMPSON DISTRICT THREE, AND SHADOW GOING BUDDY WITH DISTRICT ONE.

AND MR. DISTRICT SEVEN AFFAIR, REMOTELY AND CHIEF FOCI.

IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TOM BULKY FIRE MARSHALL.

OKAY.

AND AGAIN, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED I AM ANDREA FREIBERGER.

I AM THE CHAIR AND I AM REPRESENTING DISTRICT NINE AND WE DO NOT YET HAVE COMMISSIONER GREEN WITH US THIS EVENING.

UH, IF HE JOINS US, WE'LL INTRODUCE HIM WHEN HE ARRIVES.

AND, UH, SAME WITH VICE CHAIR, PABLO ABILA BEFORE THE CASES ARE CALLED, THE COMMISSION WILL ENTERTAIN CITIZEN COMMUNICATION ON ITEMS, NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES OR SIX MINUTES FOR ANYONE REQUIRING INTERPRETATION SERVICES.

TONIGHT, THE COMMISSION WILL CONDUCT A HEARING FOR EACH CASE ON THE AGENDA.

THE CASES WILL BE CONSIDERED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY APPEAR ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION MAY TAKE A CASE OUT OF ORDER IF IT IS APPROPRIATE.

AND WE DO PLAN TO TAKE ONE CASE OUT OF ORDER THIS EVENING, WE WILL ACTUALLY HEAR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, IMMEDIATELY AFTER ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA.

ALL ATTENDEES AT THIS HEARING ARE REQUIRED TO OBSERVE APPROPRIATE DECORUM AND CIVILITY.

SO IT WAS NOT TO IMPAIR THE COMMISSION'S ABILITY TO CONDUCT BUSINESS.

AND OF COURSE THIS EVENING, BECAUSE WE ARE STILL IN A PANDEMIC.

WE ASK THAT YOU WEAR A MASK UNLESS YOU ARE SPEAKING THE COMMISSIONS COORDINATOR, MELANIE, MELANIE, ALLIE, WE'LL CALL EACH CASE ON THE AGENDA.

WHEN YOUR CASE IS CALLED, THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY MUST COME FORWARD AND STAND AT THE PODIUM IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.

THE CITY WILL PRESENT ITS EVIDENCE AND WITNESSES.

FIRST, AFTER EACH CITY WITNESS TESTIFIES YOU OR YOUR REPRESENTATIVE MAY ASK THE WITNESSES QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR TESTIMONY.

ONCE THE CITY HAS CONCLUDED ITS EVIDENCE AND WITNESSES, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT YOUR OWN WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE.

YOU WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES TO PRESENT YOUR CASE.

WHEN THE TIMER INDICATES THAT YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED, YOU MUST FINISH YOUR SENTENCE AND CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND WE'LL OUR DESIGNATED TIME KEEPER THIS EVENING.

PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

THAT WOULD BE RAIN BIRD FAB.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

SO AFTER YOU AND THE CITY HAVE PRESENTED EVIDENCE AND WITNESSES, THE COMMISSION MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF EITHER SIDE AFTER THE COMMISSION MEMBERS ASK QUESTIONS.

I WILL ALLOW OTHER INTERESTED PERSONS WHO ARE PRESENT TO OFFER RELEVANT TESTIMONY ABOUT THE CASE, BOTH SIDES.

AND THE COMMISSION MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES.

AFTER ALL THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY IS CONCLUDED.

THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE CASE AND VOTE ON A DECISION.

THE COMMISSION'S DECISION WILL BE ANNOUNCED TONIGHT, AND A COPY OF THE DECISION WILL BE MAILED TO YOU.

A DECISION OF THE COMMISSION IS FINAL AND BINDING UNLESS APPEALED TO DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AS PROVIDED IN THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS.

WHEN YOUR CASE IS CALLED WITNESSES TESTIFY UNDER OATH, ANY PERSON THAT WANTS TO PRESENT TESTIMONY IN ANY CASE BEFORE THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO THAT YOU MAY BE SWORN IN THIS WOULD INCLUDE PROPERTY REPRESENTATIVES, NEIGHBORS, ANYONE INTERESTED DO EACH OF YOUR SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU WILL PROVIDE THIS EVENING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

IF SO, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I DO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

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IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER, WE WILL PROCEED TO CONSIDER THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE BEFORE THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING AND, UH, COORDINATOR ALLIE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY ONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS? I DO NOT SEE ANYONE.

OKAY.

NO.

IF WE COULD GO MOVE FORWARD

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 27TH MEETING, COPY OF THE DRAFT MINUTES ARE IN THE GOOGLE DRIVE FOLDER OR YOUR READERS SHOULD YOU NEED TO REVIEW THEM.

AND I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT IN ORDER TO VOTE ON THE MINUTES, IT IS NOT REQUIRED THAT YOU WERE PRESENT AT THE, AT THAT MEETING ONLY THAT YOU REVIEWED THE MEETING ONLY THAT YOU REVIEWED THE MINUTES PRIOR TO THE VOTE.

OKAY.

UH, HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MINUTES? THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANKS.

I THINK SO.

I'LL MOVE TO ADMIT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

OKAY.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MILLER.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE STILL LOOKING THROUGH.

YOU'RE NOT.

YOU'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE, FROM THE OCTOBER 27TH, 2021 REGULAR MEETING SAY AYE, AYE.

AND NO OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER STOLZ THOUGHT I DIDN'T SEE HOW YOU VOTED MY APOLOGIES.

SORRY.

I FLOATED THAT CHAIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO UNANIMOUS.

OKAY.

SO WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.

YES.

SO ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE, SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER

[1. Approval of the 2022 Building and Standards Commission regular meeting schedule]

ONE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE 2022 VSC REGULAR MEETING DATES.

THE DATES BEFORE YOU ARE THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY MEETING DATES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DECEMBER, WHICH HAS SEVERAL PROPOSED DATES AND NOVEMBER, WHICH HAS NO MEETING AFTER YOU VOTED AND APPROVED THE MEETING DATES, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WILL REVIEW OUR DATES AND LET US KNOW IF THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE OUR REQUESTS.

THIS OCCURS AFTER COUNCIL HAS HAD THEIR DATES APPROVED AND THEN CITY COUNCIL BEGINS TO SCHEDULE THE REQUEST FOR ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

SO, AND THEN OFTEN IN SUMMER MONTHS DUE TO BUDGET AND IN DECEMBER, BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO FIND ALTERNATIVE DATES OR ROOMS FOR OUR MEETINGS.

AND, UM, WITH OUR NEW MOVE TO THE NEW LOCATION, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WILL BE NECESSARY, BUT, UM, WE WILL LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVE DATES, UM, FOR DECEMBER, FOR SURE.

AND, UH, IF YOU COULD PULL THE RANK, YOU COULD PULL UP ITEM NUMBER ONE AND THE DECEMBER DATES, IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO PROVIDE OUR PREFERENCE.

OKAY.

AND WE COULD PROVIDE YOUR PREFERENCE CAUSE I PUT SEVERAL DATES THERE, BUT IT MAY BE WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

YOU COULD PUT YOUR PREFERENCE AND THEN I WOULD PICK TWO OR THREE DATES THAT ARE YOUR PREFERENCES.

OKAY.

AND THEN I'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

YES, NO, THAT'S NOT IT THAT'S ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SO IT'S UM, AND MET HIM CHAIR FROM THE, FROM THE CALENDAR THAT'S PROVIDED.

I WOULD PREFER THAT FIRST WEEK IN DECEMBER.

IF WE GET A SAY WE, WE CAN, WE CAN ASK.

YES.

UM, THAT'S, I'M LEANING TOWARDS THE FIRST WEEK TOO, BUT LET'S, LET'S HEAR FROM EVERYONE ELSE TOO.

SO YOU NOD.

YES.

SHE'S THROWING TO GIVE IT UP.

THAT'S GOOD.

I'M GOING TO SUGGEST PROBABLY OUR PREFERRED DATE FOR KNOW, FOR DECEMBER WOULD BE WEDNESDAY THE SEVENTH.

THERE WE GO.

SO IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT, SO THEY FOR CONSISTENCY.

YEAH.

SO THOSE ARE THE DATES.

UM, SO, UM, THIS ALLEY, YES.

I THINK WE WERE SEEING A PREFERENCE FOR DECEMBER THE SEVENTH.

WEDNESDAY WOULD BE OUR PREFERRED DATE AND PROBABLY ANY OTHER DAY THAT WEEK WOULD BE PREFERRED OVER THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

SO YOUR PREFERENCES FOR PREFERENCE IS FOR 67TH, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO.

YES.

UM, OKAY.

AND I'LL JUST HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT'S AVAILABLE THAT WEEK.

IT'S SOMEONE ELSE, SOME OTHER BOARDING

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COMMISSION MAY HAVE THE ROOMS AT THAT TIME, SO IT'LL JUST DEPEND THEY MAY ALREADY.

YEAH.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE NEW LOCATION, THEN THAT WON'T BE SO BIG OF AN ISSUE, BUT UM, OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

DO I HEAR ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED MEETING DATES AS JUST DISCUSSED? ALL RIGHT.

I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE NEED TO VOTE ON THOSE.

I THINK IT'S THANK YOU.

DO WELL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT ON THE RECORD, WE CERTAINLY CAN.

AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER STILL STEAD ALSO.

UM, BUT SOMEONE LIKE TO CRAFT AN EMOTION.

I MOVE THAT WE SET OUR DECEMBER 22 MEETING DATE AS DECEMBER 7TH, 2022 AS OUR PREFERRED DATE WITH THE SIXTH AND THE EIGHTH AS ALTERNATIVES.

UH OH.

AND THE REST OF THE WHOLE CALENDAR WE DO.

AND WE ACCEPT THE REST OF THE CALENDAR AS IS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I'D SECOND THAT, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER IS STILL STUD I CANNOT SEE YOU AT THE MOMENT.

SO I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU FOR A PRO VOICE VOTE.

UM, OR DO YOU APPROVE? YEAH, I DO APPROVE, I'M SORRY.

I HAVE MY CAMERA ON, BUT I GUESS THE SCREEN-SHARING MIGHT BE PREVENTING YOU FROM SEEING ME, SO I APPROVED.

EXCELLENT.

THANKS.

AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT I CAN ACTUALLY SEE IF YOU APPROVE, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[2. Discussion regarding Building and Standards Commission retreat.]

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YOU COULD PULL UP THAT OTHER CALENDAR NOW AND IT'S A WHOLE CALENDAR.

I JUST PUT DATES FOR MONTH.

SO YOU COULD LOOK AT POSSIBLE MONTHS AND DATES FOR ANOTHER RETREAT AND MISS ALLEY.

UM, YOU WERE THINKING POSSIBLY SOMETIME IN APRIL, MIGHT WORK OUT BECAUSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE FURTHEST DISTANCE BETWEEN OTHER MEETINGS.

YEAH.

IS THAT RIGHT? IF YOU LOOK AT THE JANE AND I PUT, UH, THE 12TH OR THE 13TH, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHICH DAY WE'LL BE MAILING OUT.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MANY, UH, ORDERS WE HAVE TO GET ENTERED IN CASES WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA.

SO THE VOLUME OF, AND THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE WE HAVE TO NOTIFY.

SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT VARIABLES THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE IF WE'RE MAILING OUT ON THAT WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ORDERS AND FOR THE NOTICES.

SO I'M JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU AN IDEA.

WE'LL BE TIED UP ONE OF THOSE TWO DAYS, YOU KNOW, THE 12TH AND 13TH OR SECOND AND THIRD WITH MAIL-OUTS.

UM, AND IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN, THEN THERE'S FA I GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH DECEMBER.

SO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER MONTHS, LET'S SEE, LET'S GO BACK TO FEBRUARY.

UM, SO WE JUST NEED TO PICK A MONTH IF YOU, CAN YOU SCROLL TO APRIL? I THINK SO APRIL WE HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, UH, UH, THE, THE MARCH MEETING IS KIND OF LATE.

AND THEN THE APRIL MEETING IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO PREPARE FOR THE APRIL MEETINGS.

I WAS THINKING MAYBE APRIL, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S, Y'ALL COME UP.

IF YOU COULD PICK SOME PROPOSE, SOME DATES, THEN WE COULD, OR MONTHS WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, WE CAN CHECK WITH CITY HALL AND SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

WHAT DOES MAY LOOK LIKE? MAKE IT KEEP GOING.

IT'S JUST A, YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE CALENDAR THERE AND IT'S ON YOUR READERS AS WELL.

CAN SCROLL THROUGH THE READERS.

THAT MIGHT BE EASIER.

SO MS. ALLEY, WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, OR I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE, THE BURDEN THAT THIS PLACE IS ON STAFF TO PULL, TO PULL A RETREAT TOGETHER.

TO MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU ARE WELL, YOU'RE SUPER BUSY, ALWAYS IN BETWEEN MEETINGS.

UM, BUT ARE YOU BUSIER KIND OF THE SECOND HALF OF THE MONTH, LIKE BETWEEN THE MAILINGS AND THE MEETING, OR ARE YOU BUSIER IN THE FIRST HALF OF THAT MONTH IN PREPARING FOR THE MAILINGS? PROBABLY, WELL, THIS PARTICULAR MONTH MAY YOU CAN SEE WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING MAIL OUTS ONE WEEK IN PREPARING FOR THE MEETING AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, SO THE FIRST PART OF MAY WOULD NOT BE GOOD.

UM, EH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, PROBABLY THE WEEK AFTER THE MAIL OUT, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER EXHIBITS.

THAT'S NOT IDEAL PROBABLY BEFORE WE SEND OUT THE NOTICES WOULD BE THE FIRST PART OF THE MONTH

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IS BETTER.

OKAY.

OR EITHER THE WEEK OF, YEAH, THE FIRST PART OF THE MONTH, WHICH IS AGAIN, WHY APRIL IS LOOKING BETTER FOR, FOR STAFF.

UM, BUT IF, IF ANY COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE, THEN THAT, AND I MIGHT ADD TOO, WE DID MOST OF THE PREP, A LOT OF THE PREPARATION, UM, YOU KNOW, ALREADY.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS MUCH PREPARATION AS WE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE CAUSE WE'VE WE HAD TO POSTPONE THE MEETING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE LESS PREPARATION THAN USUAL.

OKAY.

I KNOW I'M IN MY PREFERENCES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO DISCUSS.

UM, GOLLY, IT'S TIGHT.

WE'VE GOT TWO WEEKS IN JANUARY AFTER THE MAIL OUT.

THERE'S TWO WEEKS.

WELL, I WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT THE FIRST WEEK IN FEBRUARY.

YEAH.

UM, CHERISE.

I WOULD, YEAH, I WOULD THINK FEBRUARY OR APRIL WOULD BE MY PREFERENCES FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR, JANUARY.

I THINK WE'LL BE BUSY.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND THEN MARCH, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE STUFF GOING ON.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND I DIDN'T THINK I MEANT TO LOOK AND SEE WHEN SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST IS THAT, AND I DIDN'T LOOK UP THOSE DATES, BUT I CAN, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST AVOID MARCH LOTS OF TRAVELING.

UM, FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY, HOW DOES THAT LOOK FOR, FOR STAFF ALSO? SORRY, EVEN BEFORE WE HAD, WELL, WE WILL ACCOMMODATE YOU WHENEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.

I'M LOOKING FOR THE DATES MARCH 11TH THROUGH THE 20TH IS SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST UM, SO LET ME SUGGEST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AS A COMMISSION OR ABOUT THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY.

YEAH.

UM, YEAH.

MS. ALLIE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LOOK FOR DATES AND ROOMS AND SEE IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING THE FIRST WEEK IN FEBRUARY AND WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, LIKE WE DID BEFORE OR DAYTIME AFTERNOON MORNING? WHAT PREFERENCES MORE? I THINK THAT SAME TIME BLOCK PROBABLY WAS SO CLOSE TO WORKING FOR EVERYONE AS I THINK WE SHOULD DO TRY AND DO THAT.

SURE.

OKAY.

AND, UM, ON FRIDAYS FOR THE RAINY DAYS IS BETTER.

OKAY.

IT SOUNDS LIKE FRIDAY IS A PRETTY GOOD DAY.

OKAY.

I REMEMBER SOMEONE WHO WAS BUSY ON TUESDAY LEAVE MS. MUELLER, DO YOU HAVE CLASS ON TUESDAY OR I WILL THIS NEXT SEMESTER.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND WEDNESDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.

SO WOULD WE WANT TO JUST LOOK AT SOME FRIDAYS? YEAH, MAYBE THE FOURTH, FIRST CHOICE IN THE 11TH, SECOND CHOICE IN FEBRUARY.

I DUNNO.

JUST LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN.

OKAY.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE MORNING.

I AM, YES.

OKAY.

I WILL.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW SOON I'LL BE ABLE TO PUT THIS REQUEST SINCE THEY'RE LOOKING AT EVERYONE'S A, B YOU KNOW, BOARD AND COMMISSION SCHEDULES RIGHT NOW.

I'LL PUT, THROW THIS IN THERE WITH OUR REQUESTS, FOR OUR OTHER DATES.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET, WE CAN GET ONE OF THOSE AS WELL.

OKAY.

AND I WOULD SAY IF, IF NEITHER OF THOSE WORK, THEN WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT EITHER A WEDNESDAY OR THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT WEEK IN APRIL.

ARE THERE, IS THERE A STRONG OPPOSITION TO WEDNESDAY? WEDNESDAY MORNING? OKAY.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE FIRST CHOICE WOULD BE EITHER OF THOSE FRIDAYS, FEBRUARY 4TH OR 11TH.

SECOND CHOICE WOULD BE EITHER OF THOSE WEDNESDAYS, THE SECOND OR THE 9TH OF FEBRUARY.

AND THEN AFTER THAT WOULD BE THAT WE CAN APRIL, SORRY.

YEAH.

MAYBE APRIL 8TH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY.

YEAH.

THE APRIL 8TH WOULD BE KIND OF WORST IN BOTTOM OF OUR LIST.

THAT'S COOL.

LET'S SEE YOU HAVE A FEBRUARY 2ND.

IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR ME.

OKAY.

NEVERMIND, FEBRUARY 2ND.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE CAN MAKE YOU THEN THE 11TH WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST FOR ME.

SO FEBRUARY 2ND THOUGH.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE FEBRUARY 4TH,

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FEBRUARY 11TH, AND THEN FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 9TH COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.

AND THEN APRIL 8TH.

OKAY.

APRIL WHAT? DATE? EIGHTH.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT THAT DOWN, RIGHT? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO ARE YOU READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE? YES WE ARE.

YES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA

[3. Presentation regarding City of Austin Permitting Presenter: Susan Barr, Developmental Services Department]

IS A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

PERMITTING HERE TO PRESENT A SUSAN BARR DAMPENER MANAGER FOR THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

SUSAN IS JOINING US HERE.

WELCOME SUSAN.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

MADAM CHAIR, MADAM CHAIR, FIBER AND COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING.

MY NAME IS SUSAN BARR.

I AM ACTUALLY THE ACTING CHIEF PLANS EXAMINER AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL PLANS, EXAMINER MANAGER.

AND TONIGHT I WILL BE GIVING A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THIS AS A OH, LET'S SEE.

OKAY.

UH, SO THIS FIRST SLIDE IS JUST A BRIEF ORGANIZATION ON HOW THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS ORGANIZED.

SO WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR AND THEN UNDER THE OFFICE OF DIRECTOR, THERE ARE FOUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS AND THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN SECTION.

WE HAVE THE CUSTOMER AND EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE PLAN, REVIEW, LAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTIONS.

THE FIRST ITEMS I WANT TO GO THROUGH IS WORK THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT.

EVERY THREE YEARS, THE TECHNICAL BUILDING CODES ARE REVIEWED AND ADOPTED.

AND WITH THOSE, WE MAKE LOCAL AMENDMENTS TO EACH OF THE CODES.

WHEN WE MAKE LOCAL AMENDMENTS, WE ALSO LOOK AT WORK THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT.

SO AS LONG AS YOU KNOW, AND THE ITEMS THAT GO INTO THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO DRASTICALLY OR DRAMATICALLY AFFECT LIFE, SAVED YOUR HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY? SO IN REGARDS TO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, THERE'S A FULL LIST THAT CAN BE FOUND AT THE LINK AT THE TOP.

AND THEN BRIEFLY SOME EXAMPLES ARE LIKE ONE STORY DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT ARE ONLY 120, 120 SQUARE FEET OR SMALLER.

A FENCE IS NOT OVER SEVEN FEET, A REPAIR REPLACEMENT OF GYP BOARD AS LONG TO A MAXIMUM OF 96 SQUARE FEET, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT WITH A FIRE RESISTANT RADIO WALL OR SHARE ASSEMBLY OR IN WHAT AREAS.

AND THEN THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS IN REGARDS TO THE MECHANICAL CODE.

THE FULL LIST CAN BE FOUND AT, AT THAT LINK.

AND SOME EXAMPLES ARE INSTALLING SELF-CONTAINED REFRIGERATORS OR FREEZERS, RELOCATION OF RETURN AND SUPPLY GRILLS WITHIN A RANGE OF AN EXISTING DUCT LENGTH FOR COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND ELECTRICAL.

THE FULL LIST CAN ALSO BE FOUND AT THE LINK AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.

AND TO GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF WORK, ELECTRICAL WORK THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT IS WHEN THE SERVICE WILL NOT BE ENERGIZED.

AND YOU'RE REPLACING AN OVER CURRENT PROTECTION DEVICE OR A FUSE OF THE SAME VOLTAGE AMPERAGE AND IN THE SAME LOCATION.

AND THEN THERE ARE SOME OTHER ITEMS LISTED THERE ALSO IN REGARDS TO COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PLUMBING, THE FULL LIST CAN BE FOUND ONCE AGAIN, THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO PLUMBING WORK THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT.

UH, ONE OF THE ITEMS IS TO CLEAR STOPPAGES, INCLUDING THE REMOVAL AND RE INSTALLATION OF A WATER CLOSET OR THE REPAIRING OF WEEKS AND PIPES, VALVES, OR FIXTURES.

IF THE WORK DOES NOT INVOLVE OR ACQUIRE THE REPLACEMENT OR REARRANGEMENT OF THE VALVES, PIPES, OR FIXTURES, I THINK WE WENT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR RESIDENTIAL WORK THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT.

UM, THIS IS SIMILAR TO RESIDENTIAL.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S SIMILAR TO COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

UM, BUT THIS IS PARTICULAR TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

SO ONE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS, TWO FAMILY DWELLING UNITS.

AND SO FOR THE ONE STORY DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, YOU CAN BUILD UP TO A 200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITHOUT A PERMIT.

AND THEN THE FENCE IS, UM, OKAY.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

UM, YOU CAN BUILD A FENCE, NOT OVER EIGHT FEET AND HIGH, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT LOCATED IN A FLOOD HAZARD AREA.

AND THEN THE GYP BOARD FOR RESIDENTIAL IS NOT TO EXCEED

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128 SQUARE FEET.

RESIDENTIAL MECHANICAL ON THE FULLEST.

ONCE AGAIN, CAN BE FOUND AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.

UH, EXAMPLES ARE REPLACING SUPPLY AND RETURN.

DUCT RUNS INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SUPPLY REGISTERS WITHIN AN EXISTING DUCT DRAWN.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO STANDALONE PERMITS, SO SAY YOU NEED TO CHANGE OUT A WATER HEATER, OR MAYBE YOU NEED TO CHANGE OUT THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM YOU CAN, OR THE CONTRACTOR CAN GET A STANDALONE TRADE PERMIT DIRECTLY THROUGH THE SERVICE CENTER, AND ACTUALLY IT'S DIRECTLY THROUGH THEIR ACCOUNT ON THE AB POLICY PORTAL.

AND SO THERE'S AT LEAST 60 STANDALONE PERMITS AND OVER 24 AND OVER 20 CATEGORIES WHERE THIS CAN BE DONE.

AND HERE'S JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF THOSE TYPES OF PERMITS.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, THERE ARE EXPRESSED PERMITS THAT CAN BE DONE OR EXPRESS ITEMS THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT.

AND SO SOME OF THOSE ARE ADDING OR REMOVING DECK, UH, BRICK ADDING OR REMOVING CITING, REPLACING, UM, INSULATION, DRYWALL, REPAIR, REPLACING WINDOWS, ET CETERA.

SO IF SOMEONE DID NEED TO COME AND GET A PERMIT, THIS IS THE PROCESS IN WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO IN ORDER TO GET A PERMIT.

THEY FIRST GO THROUGH INTAKE AND THEN ONCE THEY GO THROUGH INTAKE, THE DRAWINGS ARE SENT OUT TO THE REVIEWERS WHO THEN REVIEW THE DRAWINGS ELECTRONICALLY.

THEY APPROVE OR REJECT.

IF THEY HAVE TO REJECT, THEY SEND A COMMENT REPORT THAT GETS ISSUED AND THAT GETS SENT OUT TO THE APPLICANT AND THEN APPLICANT RESUBMITS AND THE PROCESS GOES OVER UNTIL THE PERMIT APPLICATION CAN BE APPROVED.

AND THEN THE PERMITS ARE ISSUED.

THIS PROCESS IS VERY SIMILAR TO RESIDENTIAL.

UH, THE THING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL THOUGH, IS THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE AS NEARLY AS MANY REVIEW COMPONENTS AS A COMMERCIAL PROJECT, UH, FOR PERMIT TIMEFRAMES FROM VERY BEGINNING FROM WHEN IT COMES INTO THE CITY, UNTIL THE PERMIT GETS ISSUED.

COMMERCIAL SAW AN AVERAGE OF 37 BUSINESS DAYS IN RESIDENTIAL SAW AN AVERAGE OF 40 BUSINESS DAYS.

AND THEN JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF THE VOLUME OF WORK THAT HAS TRANSPIRED OVER THE LAST THREE FISCAL YEARS, THIS GRAPH JUST SHOWS THE VOLUME OF COMMERCIALS INTAKE WORK.

THIS NEXT IS THE REVIEW VOLUME FOR TOTAL COMPLETED DISCIPLINE REVIEWS FOR COMMERCIAL WORK.

YOU CAN SEE HOW IN FISCAL YEAR 20, WE DEFINITELY GOT AFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC.

AND THEN IN FISCAL YEAR 21, A SHOT BACK UP, THIS IS THE PERCENTAGE OF ON-TIME REVIEWS.

OUR GOAL IS 90% AND WE WERE, WE WERE GREAT ON TRACK FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 AND THEN THE PANDEMIC HIT AND THEN THINGS KIND OF WENT DOWN, BUT THEY HAVE COME BACK.

AND THEN THIS SLIDE IS THE LAST ONE FOR COMMERCIAL.

AND IT JUST SHOWS THE VOLUME OF PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED.

THIS NEXT SLIDE IS IN REGARDS TO RESIDENTIAL INTAKE VOLUME.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE TOTAL COMPLETED DISCIPLINE REVIEWS FOR RESIDENTIAL.

IT WAS OFF THE CHARTS IN FISCAL YEAR 21, AND THEN THE PERCENT ON TIME FOR RESIDENTIAL.

ONCE AGAIN, THE METRIC IS 90% AND, UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEE HOW THE WINTER WEATHER EVENT ALSO AFFECTED, UH, REVIEW TIMES.

AND THEN THIS IS THE VOLUME OF PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL WORK IN REGARDS TO INSPECTIONS FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.

THESE ARE THE PERCENTAGES ON TIME AND ON TIME MEANS WITHIN 24 HOURS OF WHEN THE INSPECTION WAS SCHEDULED, THERE WAS A DIP IN ELECTRICAL FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER DUE TO CONTINUING EDUCATION, AS WELL AS ONBOARDING OF NEW INSPECTORS.

THERE'S ALSO INSPECTIONS ALSO SAW SOME PROMOTIONS TO PLAN REVIEW.

AND, UH, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET BACK ON TRACK.

UM, BUT THEY HAVE GONE FROM, THEY WERE THREE BUSINESS DAYS BEHIND, AND NOW THEY'RE AT ONE BUSINESS DAY.

SO THEY'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ALSO, AND THAT IS ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UM, SO ON THE STANDALONE PERMITS, IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE YOU SAID THAT IT CAN

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BE PULLED THROUGH, LIKE THROUGH A CONTRACTOR'S ACCOUNT ONLINE? SO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO COME IN PERSON AT ALL? THERE'S IT'S I ASSUME THIS IS A VERY STREAMLINED APPLICATION PROCESS.

YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.

AS LONG AS THEY ARE A REGISTERED USER ON THE AB PLUS C WEBSITE, WHICH ANYONE CAN, CAN BECOME AN, UH, USER, UH, THEY CAN PULL PERMITS DIRECTLY, UH, ONLINE AND NOT HAVE TO COME IN AT ALL.

OKAY.

AND SO IS THERE ANY REVIEW PERIOD RELATED TO THOSE STANDALONE PERMITS OR IT'S BASICALLY, I'M GOING TO GO REPLACE A WATER HEATER.

LET ME GO.

CORRECT.

THERE IS NO REVIEW COMPONENTS TO, TO, UM, THESE TYPE OF CERTAIN ALONE, NEARLY INSTANTANEOUS.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

NOW I WOULD SAY THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME FOR COMMERCIAL THAT DO REQUIRE A BIT OF A REVIEW, BUT FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT NO REVIEW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

DO YOU HAVE A FOOD TRUCK HIRE THE SAME CLIENT, UH, APPLICATION PROCESS, OR DO YOU HAVE YOUR MICROPHONE ON? YEAH, MY MICROPHONE'S ON, BUT ALSO IF YOUR FOOD TRUCKS ALSO REQUIRE THE SAME KIND OF, UH, SO IN, UM, FOOD TRUCKS DO NOT FALL UNDER MY JURISDICTION, UH, THAT WOULD BE, I BELIEVE IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH POSSIBLY.

UH, SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEIR PERIMETER OF REVIEW PROCESS.

I CAN DEFINITELY FIND OUT FOR YOU THOUGH, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I WILL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES.

SO YOU SHOWED US A LOT OF CHARGES SHOW ON TIME.

SO IS ON TIME YOU TOLD US WHAT THE AVERAGE TIME IS, BUT WHAT'S THE, WHAT ARE THE ON-TIME GOALS? YEAH, SO FOR RESIDENTIAL PLAN REVIEW, IT'S 15 BUSINESS DAYS.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL, THEY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT KIND OF THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT KINDS OF REVIEW TIMES.

THEY HAVE A QUICK TURNAROUND.

THEY HAVE A SEVEN DAY, THEY HAVE A 15 DAY AND A 25 DAY REVIEW.

AND THAT'S FOR THE TOTAL.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU ENDED UP NEEDING A SITE PLAN AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WELL IS THAT FOR EACH PIECE, THE SITE PLAN IS, UH, CAN BE A CONCURRENT REVIEW AND THAT IS DONE.

IT CAN BE DONE ON THE SIDE, BUT THE 7 15, 25 QUICK TURNAROUND TIMES, THOSE ARE BASED ON JUST GOING THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL REVIEW PROCESS.

AND THE LENGTH OF TIME IS DICTATED BY THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT.

AND SO WHEN YOU SUBMIT YOUR FIRST REVIEW WOULD BE THOSE DAYS, AND THEN WHEN YOU RESUBMIT THOSE DAYS APPLY.

OKAY.

YES.

THANKS COMMISSIONER STUCK.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? DID YOU RUN? OKAY.

THANK YOU QUESTIONS FOR MANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I THINK, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD.

THIS WAS, THIS WAS REALLY HELPFUL.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN TO SPEAK WITH US.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I WILL WORK WITH MISS ALLIE TO GET HER RESPONSE TO YOU.

COMMISSIONER SALVAGE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET, UH, MR. GREEN ONLINE.

YOU CAN WAIT JUST ONE MINUTE FOR WE PUT THE NEXT PRESENTATION UP.

SURE.

SEE, CAM IS TRYING TO, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY VIDEO OR SOUND, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET HIM.

OKAY.

JAMES, YOU MIGHT SUGGEST THAT HE FOLLOW HIM OR DO YOU SEE, ARE YOU TEXTING WITH HIM? SEND HIM AN EMAIL ONE SECOND.

OKAY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO LET ME, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT CASE? UH, YES, PLEASE.

OKAY, SO WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

ITEM NUMBER

[4. Case Numbers: CL 2021-191475 and CL 2021-191477]

FOUR ON THE AGENDA IS A COMMERCIAL MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY IN THE REPEAT OFFENDER PROGRAM LOCATED AT 9 6 0 1 MO MIDDLE FISKVILLE ROAD.

ALSO KNOWN AS THE PLAZA APARTMENTS TONIGHT, YOU WILL BE CONSIDERING BUILDING G UNIT TWO AND BUILDING X UNIT TWO.

THE CASE NUMBERS ARE C L 20 21 1 9 1 4 7 5

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AND C L 20 21 1 9 1 4 7 7, ALL EXHIBITS AND OTHER RELEVANT DOCUMENTS FOR THIS PROPERTY CAN BE FOUND IN YOUR READERS AND GOOGLE DRIVE FOLDERS, UM, IN YOUR GOOGLE AND YOUR READERS IN GOOGLE DRIVE FOLDERS, LET'S REVIEW A FEW FACTS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

THIS IS ABOUT A COMMERCIAL MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY WITH A TOTAL OF 25 RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 200 UNITS.

TONIGHT, WE ARE ONLY ADDRESSING THE INTERIORS OF TWO UNITS LOCATED IN BUILDINGS, G AND X.

THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY REGISTERED WITH THE CITY'S REPEAT OFFENDER PROGRAM.

WHILE MANY OF THE DEFICIENCIES IN THESE TWO CASES HAVE ALREADY BEEN CLEARED SUBSTANDARD AND UNSAFE CONDITIONS REMAIN, WHICH REQUIRE REPAIR IN THE GOOGLE DRIVE FOLDER AND READERS.

YOU WILL FIND THE FOLLOWING FOR BOTH REFERENCE CASES, EXHIBIT ONE AND THREE, WHICH CONTAIN THE COMPLAINTS IN CASE HISTORIES, A COPY OF THE TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT RECORD THAT VERIFIES THE OWNERSHIP REQUIRED NOTICES, VIOLATION NOTICES OF HEARING AND POSTINGS AND A STRUCTURAL MAP OF THE PROPERTY EXHIBITS TWO EIGHT THROUGH TWO F AND FOR A THREE OR FOUR L, WHICH CONSISTS OF CODES.

PHOTOGRAPHS, BARKED CONSISTS OF CODES, PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE VIOLATIONS AS WELL AS CODES RECOMMENDED ORDERS.

AUSTIN CODE INSPECTOR, JOHNNY CRNA IS HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE EXHIBIT PHOTOS FOR THESE CASES.

AND WE'LL DISCUSS THE VIOLATIONS AS THEY'RE DEPICTED YOUR CRNA.

PLEASE BEGIN YOUR TESTIMONY.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JOHNNY CRNA.

I'M A CITY OF AUSTIN CODE INSPECTOR FOR THE REPEAT OFFENDER PROGRAM.

THE CASES I PRESENT BEFORE YOU AGAIN, WILL BE 4 96 0 1 MIDDLE FISKVILLE UNIT G2 AND UNIT OF INTERIOR INSPECTIONS.

THE FACTS OF THE CASE ARE AS FOLLOWS.

THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY REGISTERED IN THE REPEAT OFFENDER PROGRAM AND HAS BEEN SO SINCE OCTOBER 2ND, 2014, ON JUNE 29TH, 2021, I RECEIVED THE COMPLAINT FOR UNIT X TWO AND ON JUNE 29TH, 2021, I RECEIVED THE COMPLAINT FOR G UNIT G2.

BOTH CASES ARE THE RESULT OF COMPLAINTS FILED BY TENANTS.

UPON MY INSPECTION OF THESE UNITS.

I FOUND THE UNITS HAVE MULTIPLE ONGOING INTERIOR IPMC VIOLATIONS ON JULY 14TH, 2021.

I POSTED THIS PROPERTY WITH THE NOTICES OF VIOLATION SINCE APRIL 1ST, 2021, I HAVE MADE MULTIPLE INSPECTIONS OF UNIT X TWO AND HAVE FOUND SOME DEFICIENCIES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT MANY REMAIN SINCE JULY 7TH, 2021.

I HAVE MADE MULTIPLE INSPECTIONS OF UNIT G2 SINCE THE SEPTEMBER 20 INSPECTION.

I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE ENTRY.

THE FOLLOWING PHOTOGRAPHS.

I AM PRESENTING AS EVIDENCE REPRESENT MANY OF THE DEFICIENCIES FOUND THROUGHOUT THE UNITS AND ITS BUILDINGS.

MOVE ON TO THE SLIDES, PLEASE.

OKAY.

EXHIBITS TWO A THROUGH TWO C ARE AND WILL BE CONTEXTUAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE MONUMENT SIGN.

NEXT SLIDE.

BUILDING G NEXT SLIDE AND THE ENTRANCE TO UNIT G2.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

EXHIBIT TWO D IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE T THE DETERIORATION OF A KITCHEN CABINET SCENE DUE TO A WATER LEAK THAT OCCURRED EVERY TIME SOMEBODY USED THE SINK FAUCET, THE DARK SPOTS LEFT OF THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER WERE MADE BY LEAKING WATER.

WHEN I TESTED THE KITCHEN SINK, NEXT SLIDE EXHIBIT TWO E IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE FLOORING CONDITION IN ONE OF THE RESTROOMS AFTER A DIFFERENT SIZED TOILET WAS INSTALLED BY MAINTENANCE, NO EFFORT WAS MADE TO REPAIR THE FLOOR.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

EXHIBIT TWO F IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF A MAINTENANCE ATTEMPT TO REPAIR THE FLOORING.

THE EFFORT WAS UNDERMINED BY THE FACT THAT THE TOILET CONTINUED TO LEAK SEWAGE WATER BELOW THE FLOOR.

WHEN THE TOILET WAS USED AT SEEN IN THE PHOTOGRAPH, NO AMOUNT OF COCKING, UH, SHOWN CONTAINED THE SEWAGE WATER OF THIS IMPROPERLY INSTALLED TOILET.

AND THIS

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WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION OF UNIT G2, AND WE WILL BEGIN OUR PRESENTATION OF UNIT X TO X SLIDE EXHIBITS FOUR A AND FOUR BEING OUR CONTEXTUAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF BUILDING X AND THE ENTRANCE TO UNIT X TWO.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SLIDE.

EXHIBIT FOUR C IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF WHERE A DISHWASHER WAS ONCE INSTALLED.

YOU CAN SEE THE WALL IN THE BACKGROUND WITH A MOLD LIKE SUBSTANCE ON IT AND THE CABINET WALL TO THE RIGHT OF IT.

UH, WHERE AN ATTEMPT WAS MADE TO REPAIR THE DETERIORATION ON THE KITCHEN CABINET WITH JUST COCKING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

EXHIBIT FOUR D IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE A COMMON THEME IN, UH, SOME OF THE UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY.

HERE, WE HAVE ANOTHER LEAK IN A KITCHEN SINK WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE LEAK WAS SO BAD THAT TENANTS ACTUALLY, UH, WERE FORCED TO CATCH SOME OF THE GRAY WATER IN TUBS.

UH, AT MY MOST RECENT INSPECTION MODE, THERE WAS MULTIPLE GNATS, YOU KNOW, FLYING AROUND, UH, UH, THIS PULLED THE POOLED WATER THAT WE HAD BEEN SHOWN IN THE PREVIOUS PICTURE.

AND WITHIN THE UNIT ITSELF, EXHIBIT FOUR IS A REPRESENTATIVE PHOTO OF A MULTIPLE MULTITUDE OF ISSUES WITHIN UNIT TWO.

AS YOU CAN VISIBLY SEE THERE'S EVIDENCE OF ANOTHER TYPE OF INFECT.

NOW INFESTATION SINCE MY FIRST INSPECTION OF THIS UNIT IN APRIL, THE TENANTS HAVE LIVED WITH A RODENT INFESTATION.

THIS ISSUE CONTINUES TO REMAIN AFFECTING NEIGHBORING UNITS AND EXHIBIT 40.

IT ALSO SHOWS THE IMPROPER INSTALLATION OF THE CONDUIT FOR THE WATER HEATER AND UNIT TWO.

AFTER MOVING ON TO INSPECT, YOU KNOW, THE RESTROOMS IN THIS UNIT, I HEARD A LOUD POPPING NOISE FROM THE WATER HEATING AREA, AND IMMEDIATELY HEARD THE BREAKERS TRIP CAUSING THE MAIN BREAKER FOR THE UNIT TO GO OUT AND THE ENTIRE LIGHTS AND ELECTRICITY WENT OUT IN THE UNIT WHILE I WAS THERE.

THE WATER HAD WATER HEATER HAS AN ELECTRICAL SHORT, UH, THAT'S CAUSING AN OVERLOAD IN THE SUB PANEL, UH, FOR THIS UNIT AND ITS MAIN ELECTRICAL PANEL.

NEXT SLIDE.

I KNOW THAT THIS PICTURE TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I WANTED TO DOCUMENT IT FOR MYSELF.

UH, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE BOTTOM LEFT IN, UM, AT, UH, SLOT 13 AND 15, THAT'S WHERE A CIRCUIT 13 AND 15 IS WHERE THE WATER HEATER, UH, WAS CONNECTED.

UM, KIM, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT TOO WELL HERE, BUT, UH, IT SHOWS USUALLY WHEN, UH, WHEN, UH, ALIGNED TRIPS, UM, THESE BREAKERS ARE MADE TO DEFAULT IN BETWEEN THE ON AND THE OFF POSITION.

AND THAT'S THE POSITION THAT I FOUND, UH, THIS, UH, BREAKER RIGHT AFTER THE LIGHTS WENT OUT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

EXHIBIT FOUR G IS A PHOTOGRAPHIC EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE ROAD IN INFESTATION.

IN THIS UNIT, EVEN THOUGH MAINTENANCE HAD REPAIRED MANY OF THE HOLES IN THE WALLS IN UNIT X TWO, THEY WERE, UM, OPENED FAIRLY RAPIDLY WITHIN HOURS, IF NOT, UH, WITHIN A DAY BY THE RODENTS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

FOUR H IS A PHOTOGRAPHIC EXAMPLE OF THE, UH, UM, CABINETS AND DISREPAIR NEXT SLIDE.

AND SO WE'LL BE, UH, FOR I AND J UH, MORE PHOTOGRAPHIC EXAMPLES.

NEXT SLIDE OF THE UNITS IN THIS REPAIR BACKED UP SINKS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE IS A CONTEXTUAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE METER FOR THIS, UH, UNIT NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPHIC EXAMPLE OF A TRIP TO BREAKER.

THIS IS THE MAIN BREAKER FOR UNIT X TWO THAT WAS TRIPPED AFTER THAT A MASSIVE OVERLOAD DURING MY INSPECTION.

AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I, UH, URGE STRONGLY URGE THE COMMISSIONERS TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED ORDERS TO HELP ADDRESS THE SEVERE AND REMAINING, UH, BUT REMAINING DEFICIENCIES ON THIS PROPERTY.

THANK YOU BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS SHOWN IN THESE PHOTOGRAPHS AND THOSE DESCRIBED IN THE FINDINGS OF FACT, THE CODE OFFICIAL FOUND THAT THESE STRUCTURES ARE A PUBLIC AND ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE WITH SUBSTANDARD CONDITIONS.

STAFF ASKED THE COMMISSION TO ADMIT EXHIBITS ONE THROUGH FOUR L CONSISTING OF

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EXHIBITS ONE AND THREE, WHICH INCLUDES STAFF PROPOSED FINDINGS OF FACT, AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND OTHER SIMILAR DOCUMENTS AND EXHIBITS TWO EIGHT THROUGH TO F AND FOUR EIGHT THROUGH FOUR L, WHICH WERE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE VIOLATIONS ALSO CHAIR.

BEFORE I READ THE RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A REQUEST.

THE RECOMMENDED ORDERS IN BOTH OF THESE CASES ARE THE SAME.

PLEASE ALLOW ME TO READ JUST ONE REPRESENTATIVE ORDER WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE REQUESTING TWO SEPARATE ORDERS.

YES, YOU MAY READ JUST ONE AND THEN WE WILL CONSIDER THEM EITHER TOGETHER OR NOT AS A CONDITION THAT THANK YOU.

STAFF REQUESTS THAT THE COMMISSION ADOPT THE PROPOSED FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW.

AND IN BOTH CASES ORDERED THE FOLLOWING ONE OBTAIN AND FINALIZE ALL NECESSARY PERMITS TO REPAIR ALL CITED VIOLATIONS TO THE COMMERCIAL MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURE WITHIN 45 DAYS FROM THE DATE, THE ORDER HAS MAILED THREE REQUEST INSPECTIONS FROM AUSTIN CODE TO VERIFY COMPLIANCE AND FOUR ON THE 46 DAY.

IF COMPLIANCE HAS NOT BEEN ACHIEVED, ASSESS A CIVIL PENALTY OF $1,000 PER WEEK, WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO ACCRUE UNTIL THE CODE OFFICIALS DETERMINES THAT THE REPAIRS REQUIRED BY THIS ORDER ARE COMPLETE.

AND FOR SHELL ACCRUE AT A RATE OF 10% PER YEAR FROM THE DATE OF THE ASSESSMENT UNTIL PAID IN FULL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. ALI, AND THANK YOU, INSPECTOR SARNA.

SO DO WE HAVE JENNA HOFFPAUIR AND HER MILO ROMAN? OKAY.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU, AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES WITH THE CORRECT PRONUNCIATION OF YOUR NAMES, BECAUSE I PROBABLY DIDN'T GET IT RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS AND, UM, I DO WANT TO ADD THAT I AM THE REGIONAL SUPERVISOR OF THAT PROPERTY, UH, EFFECTIVE, UH, SEPTEMBER 23RD.

IT IS UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT AS YOU SAW THE MONUMENT SIGNED, AND THAT'S WHY, UM, IT'S, UH, A BANNER, THE PREVIOUS OWNER DID SEND OVER THE VIOLATIONS TO OUR NEW OWNER AND A NEW OWNER IS TRYING TO OBTAIN THE BITS AND, UH, TRYING TO GET THE WORK DONE FOR THE, UM, WATER HEATERS, THE AIR CONDITIONING AND SO FORTH.

I DO HAVE, UM, WHERE THE MANAGER THAT IS ON MATERNITY LEAVE AT THIS TIME HAS ATTEMPTED TO MAKE COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS AND, UM, G TWO AND X TWO, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGH EMAIL.

UM, AND THEY, UH, BECAUSE THEY ARE SPANISH SPEAKING RESIDENTS, SHE HAS ALSO SENT THE NOTICES IN SPANISH TO THEM, TO WHERE SHE'S ATTEMPTED TO SEND RE UH, MAINTENANCE TO DO THE REPAIRS AND OUR CONTRACTORS, WHICH IS THE BINARY REPAIR TO ENTER THE UNIT.

AND THEY HAD FAILED TO COMPLY AND WORK WITH US.

UM, THERE'S DOCUMENTATION TO FOLDER THAT SHE DID, YOU KNOW, PUT IN A, HAVE A FAR, SHE WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE CONTACT WITH THEM.

AND, UH, ALSO I CAN ADD THAT THE REPAIRS TO THE BINAL WERE DONE.

IT NO LONGER IS A HALF PATCHWORK THAT WAS DONE BY MAINTENANCE.

UM, I DO HAVE PICTURES, UM, THAT WE TOOK AND I DO HAVE AN INVOICE, UH, IN THE FOLDER WHERE THE REPAIRS WERE DONE AS WELL.

AND, UM, IT IT'S IN THAT FOLDER RIGHT THERE, AND ALSO TO, UM, THE RESIDENTS, THEY DON'T CALL AND MAKE THE WORK HOLDERS OR NOTIFY THE OFFICE OF ANY ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING IN THE UNITS UNTIL WE COME OUT HERE AND WE SEE THE PICTURES FOR OURSELVES.

SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS, UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE A PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN ON THE REPEAT OFFENDERS SINCE 2014, WHICH THAT WAS BEYOND OUR CONTROL.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS OWNER THAT JUST TOOK OVER SEPTEMBER 23RD DOES TAKE, UM, INITIATIVE AND DOES LIKE, HE DOES TAKE CARE OF THE RESIDENTS.

UM, HE'S HAD OTHER PROPERTIES IN SAN ANTONIO, DALLAS, AND SO FORTH, AND HE'S TURNED THE PROPERTIES AROUND, AND THIS IS WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE DOING WITH THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.

OKAY.

UH, IS, ARE THOSE FOLDERS, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD LEAVE WITH US AS AN EXHIBIT, OR IS THAT THE FOLDER WE CAN LIVE WITH YOU? UM, THIS FOLDER WE CAN READ WITH YOU.

THE ONLY THING WE DIDN'T MAKE COPIES OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THE OWNER THAT THE MANAGER MADE, BECAUSE WE WE'VE, UM, WITH ME DRIVING FROM SAN ANTONIO HERE TO MAKE IT TODAY, I JUST BARELY INSPECTED THE PHOTOS AS WE WERE SITTING HERE WAITING TO BE CALLED.

UH, BUT THE PICTURES ARE IN HERE

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AND I CAN SHOW YOU THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTS HERE FOR, UM, WORLDWIDE PEST CONTROL THAT WE CONTACTED THEM.

THE PREVIOUS OWNER DIDN'T HAVE A PEST CONTROL COMPANY IN PLACE.

WE HAVE THE CONTRACTING HERE FOR THE PEST CONTROL THAT THEY WE'VE BEEN SETTING ABOUT TO TREAT THE APARTMENTS.

WE ALSO HAVE A, UM, WHERE WE HAVE AN, UH, RODENT INCLUSION THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY DONE LAST FRIDAY AND MONDAY IN THE BUILDINGS.

AND THEY WE'VE SET UP BAIT BOXES OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

WE HAVE ALSO TREATED THE BUILDINGS AND THE PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT PART OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY.

WE, UH, ALSO TREATED THE BUILDINGS FOR TERMITE TREATMENTS AND EVERYTHING SEEN HERE.

UM, LET, SHOWING THAT WE ARE TAKING THE NECESSARY STEPS TO REMEDY THE SITUATIONS THAT WE ARE HAVING AT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE PREVIOUS OWNERSHIP WAS THEY DIDN'T TAKE, OR DIDN'T ACTUALLY CARE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RESIDENTS WERE FACING THERE AT THE PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE TAKING THE NECESSARY STEPS AND WE DO CARE ABOUT THE LIVING CONDITIONS AND SANITARY CONDITIONS OF EVERYBODY THAT LIVES THERE ON THE PURPOSES.

AND THAT IS REALLY GOOD TO HEAR.

UM, AND, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS, UM, FOR, FOR RECORD.

UM, AND I CAN, WHAT I CAN DO IS IF I CAN EMAIL THE, YOU KNOW, THE NOTE, THE NOTIFICATIONS, WHERE THE MANAGER WAS SENDING, SENDING THE RESIDENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET COMMUNICATION WITH THEM, TO MR. JOHNNY AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN HE CAN PRESENT IT TO YOU.

OKAY.

YES.

THIS EVENING, I WOULD SAY, JUST LEAVE WHAT YOU DON'T NEED A COPY OF.

OKAY.

FOR THE MOMENT THE CONTRACTS WILL SPECIFY I'M TALLER IN THERE.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NEEDED FOR, UH, DOCUMENTATION FROM US, WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.

UM, WE JUST, DON'T LIKE HEARING THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH US BEING UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP MANAGEMENT, THAT WE'RE UNDER THE REPEAT OFFENDERS BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO REMEDY THE SITUATION.

OKAY.

AND I WOULD SAY, UH, BEING ON THE REPEAT OFFENDER LIST, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU'LL WANT TO GET WITH YOUR CODE INSPECTOR AND, YOU KNOW, TALK THROUGH THE STEPS AND WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO HOPEFULLY GET YOU OFF OF THAT REPEAT OFFENDER LIST.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO JAMES, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADMIT YOUR EXHIBIT ONCE I KNOW WHAT IT IS ONCE I KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED OUR EXHIBITS WHILE WE'RE WAITING.

OH, YES.

I WILL GO AHEAD AND ADMIT STAFF'S EXHIBITS ONE AND THREE AND STAFF'S PHOTOGRAPHIC EXHIBITS.

UH, TWO A THROUGH F AND FOUR, A THROUGH FOUR L JAMES IS MARKING THE OTHER EXHIBITS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

I'LL ADMIT THAT WHEN IT'S READY.

UM, MS. HOFFPAUIR, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO, I'M REALLY HERE JUST TO TRY TO HELP WITH THE INFORMATION.

OKAY.

WE'RE BOTH NEW, WE'RE NEW TO THE PROPERTY.

UM, I WAS SENT SEPTEMBER 23RD FOR THE TAKEOVER.

JANA HERE WAS, UH, HIRED IN OCTOBER.

SO WE'RE, WE ARE NEW TO THE PROPERTY.

THE ONE THAT DOES HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WOULD BE THE MANAGER AND SHE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF, YOU KNOW, GIVING BIRTH TO TWINS.

SO WE COULDN'T GET HER HERE.

SHE HAS A GOOD EXCUSE.

UM, I GUESS, WELL, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE EXHIBIT, UH, LET'S OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF CITY STAFF OR THE PROPERTY REPRESENTATIVES, AND I'M SEEING A LOT OF HANDS, UH, GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

OKAY.

HAVE YOU DISCUSSED ANYTHING WITH MR. SARNA? WELL, I KNOW THAT, UH, WHEN WE FIRST TOOK OVER THE PROPERTY, UH, WE DID SEND AN EMAIL.

MY, MY SUPERVISOR, UH, FROM CALIFORNIA DID SEND AN EMAIL TO MR. SARNA, TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT WE NEEDED OR WHAT, UH, WE ALL NEEDED TO DO TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

AND, UM, I DO HAVE HERE, UM, LET ME SEE HERE.

I HAVE THE EMAIL DATED, UM, OCTOBER 7TH, OCTOBER 7TH.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO WORK ON PROVIDING A COMPLETE LIST OF THE VIOLATIONS WHICH WE HAVE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT MORE DETAILS, HOW TO PROCEED, UM, OR GUIDANCE BECAUSE SINCE WE ARE NEW TO THE AUSTIN AREA AND WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE VIOLATIONS, UM, WE, WE ARE TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

UM, MR. SARNA, I KNOW IS A VERY BUSY AND, UH, SOMETIMES IT DOES TAKE AWHILE FOR HIM TO RESPOND TO US, BUT, UM, THE MANAGER, I CAN'T RESPOND IF HE DID OR NOT MAKE COMMUNICATION WITH HER AND SHE DIDN'T PASS THE INFORMATION

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TO US, BUT I KNOW THAT SOMETIME WE DID SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

WELL, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP THEM UP.

YES, YES.

AND, UM, I KNOW WHEN THE PROPERTY IS SOLD AND I DO KNOW THAT HE DID REQUEST MY EMAIL ADDRESS AND MY NAME AND THAT WAS PROVIDED, BUT THE PREVIOUS REGIONAL MANAGER AS WELL.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADMIT YOUR EXHIBIT AND WE'LL CALL IT PROPERTY OWNERS, EXHIBIT NUMBER ONE AND COMMISSIONER MUELLER.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, YES.

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, FOR, UM, UH, OFFICER SERNA.

UM, SO I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE EXHIBITS THAT, UH, THE STAFF EXHIBITS THAT WERE UPLOADED AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEED INFORMATION IS NOT UPDATED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT THERE'S A NEW OWNER.

UM, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE WHAT, UH, WHEN DO YOU PUT TOGETHER THIS INFORMATION AND HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT'S CURRENT AND WHAT'S NOT, WE, UH, USE, UH, THE TRAVIS COUNTY, UH, DISTRICT APPRAISAL AS OUR OFFICIAL, UH, RECORD AND THE OWNER RECORDS HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED.

UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH.

THE MANAGER WHO'S BEEN ON SITE FOR OVER THREE YEARS.

SHE'S REALLY WELL WEATHER, ALL THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN ONGOING WITH THIS PROPERTY.

UM, MS. MUELLER, MAY I SAY SOMETHING PLEASE? UM, I WANTED TO ADD THAT.

YEAH, THAT IS OUR OFFICIAL RECORD, BUT WE DID NOTIFY BOTH THE, WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A NEW OWNERSHIP, BUT THE TEEKAT DID NOT CHANGE.

SO WE NOTIFIED BOTH OWNERS, THE TEEKAT OWNER, WHO IS OUR OFFICIAL OWNER, AS FAR AS OUR RECORDS GO, BECAUSE THAT'S STILL WHAT TEEKAT CAD SHOWS.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO NOTIFIED THE NEW OWNER AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE BOTH AWARE OF THE HEARING, THE NOTICE OF HEARING ALSO STATES, IF YOU READ IN THE NOTICE OF HEARING IT, IT EXPLAINS THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER IS SUPPOSED TO NOTIFY THE NEW OWNER OF ANY VIOLATIONS, BSE ORDERS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ADVISE THEM THAT THESE THINGS EXIST.

SO, AND I, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF, UH, THE CONDITIONS.

SO I THINK WE'VE DONE OUR PROPER NOTIFICATION HERE.

YEAH, NO, I MEAN, IT'S PARTLY JUST FOR US LOOKING AT THIS, WE, WE DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EVIDENCE THAT THERE'S BEEN A NEW OWNER.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN HERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NOTICES OF HEARING THERE, THEY'VE BEEN NOTED.

WELL, THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFIED.

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE A NEW OWNER NECESSARILY.

THAT'S JUST GOING TO, BUT THERE ARE NOTICES THAT WENT TO THEM AND I BELIEVE THEIR REGISTERED AGENT SENT BACK A GRIEF OF RETURN RECEIPT.

THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY WAY THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THOUGH.

JOHN GREEN, HAVING DIFFICULTY HEARING JOHN GREEN.

YES.

I CAN HEAR, YOU CAN HEAR SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, THEIR MICROPHONES, UH, UH, WORK PROPERLY.

THIS I PROPERLY CHAIR.

DID WE RECOGNIZE MR. BRUNO? NO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER JOHN GREEN HAS JOINED US.

UM, AND WHILE, WHILE YOU'RE, WHILE YOU'RE WITH US, JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND, UH, FOR STAFF OR FOR THE PRIVATE, QUITE AWHILE AWKWARD OR ADDING A VIDEO? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND I WILL ASK THE COMMISSIONERS STILL STUD ALSO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

YEAH.

I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE A CHAIR.

UH, THIS IS TIM'S TOAST.

AND I GUESS I WOULD, UM, HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE PROPERTY REPRESENTATIVES AND THAT IS IF IT WOULD, UM, IF THERE'S ANY REASON WHY THE ORDER, UH, WOULD INCONVENIENCE THE PROPERTY OWNER IN ANY WAY, IF WE WERE TO ADAPT THE ORDER.

AND, UM, AND THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION, I'LL LEAVE IT AT.

DID YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? NO, NO, NO.

SO HE'S WONDERING IF, SO THE PROPOSED ORDER IS TO MAKE ALL REPAIRS WITHIN 45 DAYS.

AND IF THIS IS FOR BOTH OF THOSE DWELLING UNITS, AND IF THE REPAIRS ARE NOT COMPLETED, THEN A FINE OF $1,000 PER WEEK WOULD BEGIN.

NOW WE HAVE NOT ADOPTED, IT'D BE AN ISSUE.

OKAY.

THAT WASN'T EVEN SURE WE WILL, UM, ATTEMPT TO GO AND DO THE REPAIRS AGAIN.

AND LET'S SEE IF THE RESIDENTS WILL ALLOW US TO GO INSIDE THEIR UNITS, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE BOTH RELATED AND, UM, THEY'RE COMMUNICATING AMONGST EACH OTHER.

UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T LET HIM IN, DON'T DO THIS.

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UH, THEY, UH, WE WANT TO GO IN AND DO THE REPAIRS AND THAT THEY DON'T LET US IN BECAUSE THEY WANT EVERYTHING NEW REPLACED.

AND, BUT WE WILL MAKE ALL ATTEMPTS AND DOCUMENT AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

SELEK BY.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF WHEN YOU SAY FOR 45 DAYS, IS THAT 45 CALENDAR DAYS OR 4,545 CALENDAR DAYS FROM THE DATE THE ORDER IS MAILED TO, AND THEN WE, UM, FROM THE DATE, THE ORDERS MAIL.

SO THAT'S USUALLY IN AN ADDITIONAL WEEK, THAT WOULD BE A WEEK TO 10 DAYS WOULD BE ADDED ONTO THAT.

THE FOLLOWUP QUESTION IS THAT A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER UNIT OR A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR BOTH ON THE 3,600 FOR EACH CASE, EACH CASE.

OKAY.

WELL, JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE IS THAT THEY'RE WELL UNDER WAY, WHY DO WE HAVE TO DELAY TO 45 DAYS? CAN WE REVIEW IT TO 30 DAYS, GET THIS DONE SOONER.

WE NEED TO GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS AN AMOUNT OF TIME, A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO MAKE REPAIRS, UNDERSTANDABLY THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE REPAIRS PREVIOUSLY, BUT EVEN FROM THE DATE OF THIS MEETING, TYPICALLY WE DO LIKE TO GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE REPAIRS.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ON THAT AT THE MOMENT.

NO, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ABSOLUTELY TIED TO THAT 45 DAYS.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER GUMBO DAY.

GO AHEAD.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN I FIND OUT WHAT ADDRESS WERE YOU USING TO SEND THE NOTIFICATIONS OR CORRESPONDENCE TO? YEAH, SURE.

UM, MS. SADIE, CAN YOU ACTION? I CAN TELL YOU WHAT'S ON HERE THAT I'M LOOKING AT.

ARE YOU WORKING FOR SAMHSA? SYMPA? WHO ARE YOU MANAGING FOR? SIMBA.

OKAY.

DO YOU SEE IT? IT'S 7 0 5 B STREET, SUITE 1940 AND SAN DIEGO.

DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? OKAY.

TO THE REGISTERED AGENT? OKAY.

STAFF.

UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO JUST CONFIRM THE BEST MAILING ADDRESS AT THE, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS HEARING? YES, WE CAN DO THAT LATER.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GUMBO DAY.

DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WE CAN CONFIRM THIS AFTER THE, OKAY.

SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS WHEN DID YOU START, WHEN DID YOU TAKE OVER THE MANAGEMENT OF THE, IT WAS SEPTEMBER 23RD OF THIS YEAR, OF THIS YEAR.

AND AS OF SEPTEMBER, THAT, THAT YOU WERE WORKING FOR THE NEW OWNER? NOT THE OLDEST.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE BOTH NEW WITH THE NEW OWNER.

UH, THE ONLY EMPLOYEE THAT, UM, THAT IS WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNERSHIP WOULD BE THE MANAGER AND I COULDN'T GET HER HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY.

THAT WAS THE QUESTION I HAD.

AND, UM, YOU DID SUBMIT A FEW EXHIBITS AND THE WORK IS IN PROGRESS.

HOW MANY UNITS DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO STILL WORK ON? I KNOW WE, UH, WE HAVE WORKED ON THE UNITS PER THE INSPECTION FOR THE LAST I CHECKED.

I WAS TOLD THAT OUR WORK WAS COMPLETED, UNFORTUNATELY.

UM, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, IF THERE'S NEW THINGS THAT ARISE AND THERE, IT'S NOT REPORTED TO US BY THE RESIDENT, WE WON'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL WE COME UP HERE AND, YOU KNOW, STAND UP HERE AND EXHIBITS ARE BEING SHOWN TO US, BUT, UH, I THEY'D MAKE NOTE OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS BEING SHOWN AND I WILL GO AND MAKE WORK ORDERS AND GET MAINTENANCE OUT THERE.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND TO BE CLEAR, UH, THE HEARING THIS EVENING IS ONLY FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS, THE ONE AT G TWO AND X TWO.

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YES.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

UH, YES.

UH, IT SEEMS, IS THERE A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE OLD OWNERSHIP AND NEW OWNERSHIP? NO, NONE WHATSOEVER, UM, IS WHEN THERE IS A PROPERTY BEING PURCHASED AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LUNCH MONEY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME SERIOUS MONEY.

UH, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THEY WOULD, THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD DO AN INVESTIGATION TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST AND HAVE A GAME PLAN BEFORE THE PURCHASE WAS COMPLETE.

AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD NOT WORK THAT WAY.

I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION EXACTLY.

WHEN I WAS PRESENTED WITH THE VIOLATIONS, I WAS LIKE, OKAY, SO WE'VE, WE HAVE THIS LIST OF VIOLATIONS.

WHY ARE WE EVEN HERE DOING A TAKEOVER? BECAUSE IT MADE NO SENSE TO ME, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

AND THOSE THINGS JUST DON'T GO AWAY.

NO, MAYBE ARE THE ANSWER.

RIGHT.

BUT WE ARE, UH, WE ARE, UNFORTUNATELY I COULDN'T GET ANY RECEPTION HERE TO PULL UP ONE OF THE BITS THAT I DID GET THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH A CONTRACTOR FOR THE, CO-PILOT JUST FOR THE AIR CONDITIONING THAT WE'RE DONE WITHOUT PERMITS AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE WE, WE WANT TO GET TO THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND TAKE CARE OF IT.

UM, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE TWO DRILLING BUSINESS RIGHT NOW.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WORK IS OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW OF THIS EVENING, THE UNIT, UM, G AND, UH, AN EX, UH, ALSO ARE PART OF THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YES.

COMMISSIONER FERERA, UH, I WANTED TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS HEARING.

OKAY.

UH, YES, LET'S, LET'S GO AHEAD AND UNLESS I HEAR ANY OBJECTIONS, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IF WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE WILL REOPEN IT TO TALK WITH YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, DISCUSSION MOTIONS.

YEAH.

JUST AM I ON? YES.

YOU ARE JUST BRIEF DISCUSSION.

I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THERE'S NEW OWNERSHIP AND CLEARLY THERE'S A DISCONNECT OR A MISCOMMUNICATION OR SOMETHING'S HAPPENED.

AND, AND, UM, IN THIS CASE, AND WE'VE SEEN CASES BEFORE WHERE SOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPENS, BUT REGARDLESS OF WHO SHOULD HAVE TOLD WHO WHAT, OR, OR WHO SHOULD HAVE ASKED WHAT THESE RESIDENTS ARE STILL DEALING WITH THESE CONDITIONS.

AND, AND, UM, FAR AS WE KNOW, HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS IN IT, I'M INCLINED TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, AS IS BECAUSE THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WAS THAT A MOTION? IT'S NOT A MOTION YET.

I'LL OPEN THAT UP.

CAESAR'S MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

THAT'S MY, THAT'S THE TEMPERATURE OF THE ROOM, AT LEAST RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL GO.

UM, YES, I, I REALLY WOULD JUST ECHO THE SAME, UM, THOUGHTS BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR THAT WHEN THE PURCHASER IS PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, THEY WOULD BE AWARE THAT THERE WERE THINGS GOING ON.

UM, AND THEY DID THEIR RESEARCH.

UM, SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND, UM, ADOPT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT SHOULD BE AN INCENTIVE TO GIVE THEM A DEADLINE, TO LOOK FORWARD TO, TO GET EVERYTHING DONE.

UH, YES.

COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER STILL SAD.

YEAH.

I'M JUST GONNA THROW IN MY 2 CENTS AND JUST ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS FUNDED ON WE'LL GO WITH