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OH, THAT LOOKS A LOT BETTER.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR BEING LATE I'M I'M USUALLY LIKE RIGHT ON TIME.

OKAY.

SO, UM, SO

[CALL TO ORDER]

GOOD EVENING.

I'M MARY KALE, VICE CHAIR OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN ETHICS REVIEW COMMISSION.

I WILL CALL THE ETHICS REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER IT IS DECEMBER 8TH, 2021.

AND IT IS SIX.

UH, SOMEBODY TELL ME EXACTLY SIX 15.

WE'RE AT AUSTIN ENERGY'S HEADQUARTERS, 48 15 MUELLER BOULEVARD ROOM ONE, ONE, ONE, ONE.

I WILL CALL THE ROLE, UM, COMMISSIONER SIDNEY WILLIAMS, AND WELCOME TO THE COMMISSION BY THE WAY, PRESENT MICKEY TUNA YAKA PRESENT NEW IN STANTON IS ABSENT CHAIR SOBER ON IS ABSENT.

HE HAS A NEW BABY SECRETARY.

LERNER IS ABSENT.

MARY KALE.

I'M HERE.

DONNA BETH MCCORMACK.

MICHAEL LEVIN'S PRESENT RAPHEA LAURIE BETSY GREENBERG HERE.

DEBRA DANBURG HERE.

GREAT.

UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

SO, UM, THE NEXT ITEM.

SO IN OPEN SESSION, WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE ETHICS REVIEW COMMISSION

[1. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

WILL GO INTO CLOSE SECTION SESSION TO TAKE UP ONE ITEM PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.07.

ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE ETHICS REVIEW COMMISSION WILL CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNCIL ON LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE FOLLOWING.

THE COMMISSION MAY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS A COMPLAINT FILED BY AS A NOVIA JOSEPH AGAINST CALEB PRITCHARD, WHICH ALLEGES VIOLATIONS OF CITY CODE OF CHAPTER TWO DASH SEVEN, ETHICS AND FINANCIAL DECLINE CLOSURE.

EXCUSE ME, SECTION TWO DASH SEVEN DASH SIX TWO STANDARDS OF CONDUCT SUBSECTIONS.

K N O.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE ITEMS ANNOUNCED YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO, UM, I'M GOING TO DO A MILD DIGRESSION HERE.

THANK YOU.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS TONIGHT? THAT WAS NEXT? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TEST THE CONNECTIONS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING REMOTELY TONIGHT.

SO, UM, HOW DO WE DO THAT? WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, LYNN JUST, OKAY.

OKAY.

MS. JOSEPH, UM, COULD YOU TEST YOUR CONNECTION FOR US PLEASE? SO WE MAKE SURE WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YEAH, YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU.

UH, IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE? I SEE A MARCUS DID PENA.

OH, THANK YOU.

OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE DO HAVE THAT GREAT CONNECTION.

GOOD.

UM, SO, UM, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THE TIME IS 6:18 PM.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME WELL? ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.

THE TIME IS 6:57 PM.

IN CLOSED

[2. PRELIMINARY HEARING]

SESSION.

WE TOOK UP AND DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO A COMPLAINT FILED BY SYNOVIA C JOSEPH AGAINST KAYLA PRITCHARD, WHICH ALLEGES VIOLATIONS OF CITY CODE SECTION TWO DASH SEVEN DASH SIX TWO K AND TWO DASH SEVEN DASH SIX TWO.

OH.

UM, I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY PARAPHRASE THE PROCEDURES FOR THIS.

THE COMPLAINANT SHALL STATE THE ALLEGED VIOLATION AND THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE THAT WOULD BE OFFERED AT A FINAL HEARING.

UM, THE RESPONDENT SHALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND, BUT IS NOT REQUIRED TO ATTEND TONIGHT.

THEY MAY DESCRIBE A NARRATIVE FORM AND WE HAVE, UH, HIS LETTER, THE TESTIMONY AND OTHER EVIDENCE THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO DISPROVE THE ALLEGED VIOLATION.

ALL STATEMENTS BY THE PARTIES AT THIS HEARING SHALL BE UNDER OATH.

EACH SIDE WILL HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR

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PRESENTATION UNLESS THE, THE CHAIR OR ME, THE VICE CHAIR TONIGHT EXTENDS THE TIME.

THERE'S NO CROSS-EXAMINATION.

AND, UH, WE MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF THE PARTIES WHEN THEY'RE DONE.

SO, UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL ON, UH, MS. JOSEPH TO, UM, TO PRESENT HER CASE.

AND DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO COULD TIME THE 10 MINUTES? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MCCORMICK WILL TIME.

MS. JOSEPH, ARE YOU READY? OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH.

UM, CAN I INTERRUPT MS. JOSEPH? I FORGOT TO SEND YOU AN OATH THAT WE USUALLY HAVE YOU SIGN IT'S IN WRITING.

UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA ASK YOU TO AGREE TO THE OATH.

NOW, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

10 MINUTES.

YES.

OKAY.

YOU READY? MS. JOSEPH.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD AND START.

I'M GOING TO READ FROM THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE IN HAND OVER NUMBER ONE, SECTION OF CHARTER OR VIOLATED SUB CHAPTER TWO AND HOME ANDREW'S CONDO MADE OF ALLEGED VIOLATION.

PASSIONS ALLEGED TO BE A VIOLATION SUBJECT AND CASE QUOTE, NO EMPLOYEE SHALL IN GENERATION, WHICH IS PAYMENT OR A RECORD.

I CAN NEVER LEAVE FOR CAMPAIGN WORK RELATED TO EITHER PLACED ON THE BALLOT.

IF THAT INDIVIDUAL SERVED ON THE BODY, WOULD YOU EXERCISE DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE BALLOT ITEM AND PARTICIPATED IN DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? SHE HELPED ME PUT YOU IN THE SPOKEN COMMUNICATION HE GAVE ME OR FROM TIM PRITCHARD FROM FOUR LANE, UM, PORTER.

AND HE REPORTED ON THE CAPITOL NEUTRAL, UM, IN THE BOARD MEETINGS WHEN HE WAS A REPORTER, YOU KNOW, IN WITNESSES THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED MOBILITY FOR ALL POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES PACK AND DO POLLUTION REPORT, WHICH IS DATED JANUARY 15TH, 2021.

IN FACT, IT WAS FOR PROPOSITION A ON TOP PAIN AND THE DOCUMENT AND THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF COMMITTEE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM FROM THE TREASURER, DR.

FROM YOUR OWN EDIFICATION, SHE'S PREGNANT.

AND SHE TOLD THEM HOW SHE SHRUGGED HER OTHER MOBILITY FALL.

AND SHE IS NOW THE CO-CHAIR A MONTH AND TRADED DEPARTMENT SHIP MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT CONNECT.

WHY CONTINGENT ON 45% FROM FUNDING SOURCE DOCUMENT, AND THAT SPECIFIED $8,500 IN SALARY AND WAGES OR CONTRACT LABOR FROM CAMPAIGN ORGANIZING DAWN ON 12 0 3, 20 20 AND 12 31 20 20.

I PAID $3,500 TO INCEPTION OF CHARTER OR VIOLATING CHAPTER STANDARDS OF CONDUCT.

THE DATES HAVE BEEN ALLEGED VIOLATION ON THE SAME ACTIONS, ALLEGED TO BE IN VIOLATION, HER ABUSED HER PHYSICALLY THE VIDEO, VISUAL ART EMPLOYEE, NOT EVEN GETTING INVOLVED RV AND TO FIND HIM DID HE COME CHAPTER AND SHE HAS READ, SEE AUDITOR.

I RECOGNIZE THAT YOUR AUTHORITY IS OR CHALLENGING THE DEFINITION IN A DIFFERENT SECTION TWO DASH THREE DASH FIVE

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HOURS AND DUTIES TO FILL OUT INCLUDE, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO SOME CHAPTER II.

THE USE OF OFFICIAL VIDEO INFORMATION FOR PERSONAL GAIN.

I HAVE RELIED ON THE FEDERAL DEFINITION AND FEDERAL LAW TRUMP.

THEY BLOCKED HER MOBILE HARDENING OF GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY, ALL HANDS.

HE WOULD CHECK THE FRAUD ON 2017 VIDEO ONLINE, YOUTUBE, THE FINES DRIVE HOME, TRYING TO GET SOMETHING ABOUT MISREPRESENTATION AND SECTION TWO DASH THREE DASH FIVE POWER AT THE FIVE WOULD BE MEAN QUOTE, PAYING PERSONAL GAIN OR FAVOR FROM PHYSICIAN .

ONE PATH ARTICLES FROM ALL THE NON THE TERM IN PART 2017, 2018, OF 1964, WHICH COLOR NATIONAL ORIGIN IS IN PACKS COVERED BY KAYLA PREACHER, DURING ENZYME AND INDEPENDENT FOR PORTER TO THE DEFINITION OF RIDERSHIP.

HI BETH, DO YOU TRANSMIT WELL AND EXPRESS METRO WRAP AN EXPERT METRO RAPID AND THAT SPREAD FAR, AND , THAT'S SPECIFICALLY, UM, EVIDENCE FROM WHITE BINDERS ON WHITE CHOICE RIDERS COMPARED TO COVERAGE.

WE CAN LIFELINE THAT FOR CENTRAL WORKERS, WHICH ARE YOUR BLUE, LOCAL BUSES, UM, PROP A CONFINED TO RIDERSHIP AND COVERAGE.

WE'VE CONFUSED ALL THE VOTERS AND THE BALLOT LANGUAGE WAS FALSE, AND THAT GET DRESSED.

AND I WILL PROVIDE, ASK HER THE CITY ADDRESS WAS ACTUALLY AUGUST, 2020, AND THEN COUNCIL.

AND YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE VOTING ON THE BASIL LANGUAGE.

TWO DAYS LATER, AUGUST 7TH, 2020, THAT ALSO FRAMED THE CONTRACT WITH VOTERS AND THE JOB POWER IN ALL OF THIS IS UNDER WORDED LAST THE 2017 CONNECTIONS, 2025 REVOLUTION, WHICH WAS WRITTEN BY , WHO WAS ALSO THE DONOR TO THE PACK, UM, AND THAT WHAT I HAVEN'T FOUND THEM FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

UM, AND CAN YOU TELL ME ALL THESE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE FOUR MINUTES, UH, DOWN TO THREE MINUTES, MS. JOSEPH, UH, THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION DURING THE AUTHOR MONITOR ARTICLE 16, 20 19, WE SPECIFIED CARS FOR DISTRICT ONE AND FIVE KILOS PRITCHARD MOVIE HANDLING COMMUNICATION FROM THE TOP SHOP IN MADISON, AND IT'S GOT THE FIRES AS WELL AS LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION POLICY AND STOCK TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

AND I WOULD ALSO PROVIDE AN EXCERPT FROM HOW TO FIX CAPITAL METRO, WHICH IS AN OFTEN LONG TO ARTICLE JUNE, 2018 FROM SHEILA PREACHER.

AND HE SPECIFIED THE GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE DISPARITIES SPECIFICALLY FOR NORTH AUSTIN, ANGELA CONNECTIONS, 2025.

I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO ALSO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME BACKUP INFORMATION BECAUSE THIS DATES BACK TO 2016, WHEN WE GOT IN TROUBLE, IT WAS CONNECTION 2025 SERVICE 20, WHICH IS A 10 YEAR PLAN IN THERE.

THE 78 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SUBMITTED FROM THE CITY OF BOSTON, THE WEBSITE, UM, COMMISSION IN 2010, WHICH WAS JUNE TOLD ME.

SO I WAS PROVIDED AS INFORMATION EVERYONE OFF.

UM, LASTLY, UM, I DID MENTION THE ARTICLE, THE ARTICLE SPECIFICALLY, UM, MAY 24TH, 2018, OR KAYLA ACTUALLY, UM, INCLUDING MY TESTIMONY IN THE CAR.

ANXIETY'S A BOMB ON THE EVE OF CHAPTER THREE MINUTE AND HE CALLED IT MYSELF AND NELSON BLENDER.

WE TESTIFY ON MAY 21ST, 2018 BEFORE CAPITOL METRO, UM, AND BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AND SO HE CALLED HIM COUNSELING AND TEACHING AS WELL IN MY FIELD, WHICH IS MENTIONED THAT IT IS YOUR MAIN JOB BETTER MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLES.

UM, AND ALSO IN THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE

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UNDER THIS SOLUTION REPORT ACTUALLY IMPROVED THE DEVELOPERS AND THEN, UH, CAME UP ACTUALLY, UM, REPORTED ON THE BROADMORE, THE STATION AS WELL, AND TONY AND GENE, UM, IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS .

SO ALL THAT INFORMATION IS JERMAINE.

AND TO THE EXTENT, WHEN I TALK TO THEM WITH MORE MINUTE, EXCUSE ME, AS JOSEPH THERE'S ONE MINUTE LEFT.

UM, I WOULD JUST SUMMARIZE BY SAYING THAT, UM, BRIDGET UNFORTUNATELY HAD BETRAYED THE PUBLIC TRUST.

ARE THE ONES THAT ARE EXPERIENCING A DIFFERENT IMPACT.

AND HE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN THE ONE REPORTER WHO REPORTED ON THE DISPARATE IMPACT, UNLIKE MANY OF THE OTHER REPORTERS.

AND I WOULDN'T ASK YOU TO SAY THAT ONE MILE IS WHERE , UH, YOU HAVE, UH, APPROXIMATELY 20.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE WE'RE RIGHT AT TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, I DON'T SEE, UM, MR. MR. PRITCHARD HERE, HE DID SEND IN A STATEMENT RESPONSE THAT, UM, LYNN CARTER EMAILED TO US.

SO, UM, I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON IF, IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MS. JOSEPH, UM, LET ME SEE HOW MUCH, NO TIME LIMIT ON QUESTION AND ANSWER, RIGHT? THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO YES.

COMMISSIONER DANBURG.

UH, YES.

UM, MS. JOSEPH, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO SEE, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO READ THE RESPONSE THAT WAS GIVEN TO US FROM CALEB PRITCHARD? I HAVE NOT COMMISSIONED RICHARD LACERATED.

LYNN, SHOULD WE READ THAT OUT LOUD OR WHAT DO YOU THINK? UM, I PROVIDED A COPY OF THE STATEMENT OF FACTS TO MS. JOSEPH, UM, MS. JOSEPH THAT WAS SHARED WITH YOU TO YOU IT'S IT'S TITLED STATEMENT OF FACTS AND IT WAS SENT TO YOU BY EMAIL, I BELIEVE SATURDAY MORNING, UH, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.

I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO READ THE STATEMENT INTO THE RECORD.

ANYWAY, SINCE MR. PRITCHARD DIDN'T SHOW UP, I'LL TAKE YOUR ADVICE ON THIS ONE, ATLANTA, WHAT SHOULD WE GO? IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON OR SHOULD WE JUST DO IT? OH, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO READ THE ROOM.

UM, IT'S NOT THAT LONG WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS? DO WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER? SHALL I READ IT? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO IT'S STATED DECEMBER 3RD, 2021, AND EVERYBODY HEAR ME WELL BEFORE I DO THIS.

OKAY.

HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS IN REGARDS TO THE ETHICS COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST ME BY ZENOBIA JAVEZ JOSEPH ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021, I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT OF FACTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

FIRST BULLET POINT FROM JANUARY 7TH, 2019 TO AUGUST 21ST, 2020, I WAS EMPLOYED AS AN EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT AND THE DISTRICT ONE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE.

NEXT BULLET POINT.

PRIOR TO THIS POSITION, I HAD CARVED OUT A REPUTATION AS A PRO TRANSIT ADVOCATE AND JOURNALIST WHOSE WORK HAS BEEN PUBLISHED IN THE, IN THE AUSTIN'S MONITOR CHRONICLE AND MONTHLY THIRD BULLET POINT ON AUGUST 21ST, 2020.

MY EMPLOYMENT IN THE DISTRICT ONE OFFICE WAS OFFICIALLY TERMINATED.

TWO WEEKS AFTER I HAD SUBMITTED MY RESIGNATION LETTER DUE TO EXHAUSTION RELATED TO THE WORKLOAD CREATED BY THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND THE HECTIC SUMMER OF PROTESTS AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY.

NEXT BULLET IN SEPTEMBER, 2020, I BEGAN WORK AS A PAID CONSULTANT FOR MOBILITY FOR ALL THE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE THAT HAD BEEN SET UP TO SUPPORT PROPOSITION A THE TAX RATE REFERENDUM THAT WOULD FUND CAPITAL METRO'S PROJECT CONNECT, INITIAL INVESTMENT.

MY ROLE CONSISTED OF PRESS RELATIONS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

NEXT BULLET ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020 AUSTIN VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVED PROP A THEREBY MAKING

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ME THE HAPPIEST BOY IN THE WORLD.

NEXT BULLET UNDER SEVEN MARCH 27TH, EXCUSE ME, 2020.

I FULFILLED A DECISION MADE IN THE DELIRIOUS, WAKE A VICTORY BY OFFICIALLY RETURNING TO THE DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL OFFICE AS A NEW HIRE IN QUOTES ON DECEMBER 31ST, NEXT BULLET ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2020, I RECEIVED A FINAL CHECK OF 3,500 FROM THE MOBILITY AT, FOR ALL PACK FOR MY SERVICES RENDERED BEFORE I HAD OFFICIALLY RETURNED TO THE DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL OFFICE.

NEXT BULLET, MY INTERPRETATION OF SUBSECTION K OF CITY CODE SECTION TWO DASH SEVEN DASH SIX TWO IS SUCH THAT IT APPLIES TO OFFICIALS OR EMPLOYEES WHO ACTUALLY SIT ON THE DECISION-MAKING BODIES THAT PUT REFERENDA ON BALLOTS.

FINAL BULLET, MS. JOSEPH'S SECOND COMPLAINT AGAINST ME, NAMELY THAT I COMMITTED FRAUD AND ABUSE SEEMS TO STEM FROM HER DISAGREEMENT WITH THE SUBSTANCE OF MY REPORTING ON LOCAL TRANSPORTATION ISSUES PRIOR TO MY EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST LIKE HER OPINION, MAN.

UM, FINAL PARAGRAPH IN MY DECADE OF PRACTICING JOURNALISM PROFESSIONALLY, I ABIDED BY A UNIQUE CODE OF ETHICS CONSIDERABLY MORE RIGOROUS THAN THOSE FOUND IN MOST OTHER INDUSTRIES BY NO MEANS DID I LEAVE MY SENSE OF INTEGRITY AND HONOR AT THE DOOR? WHEN I LEFT THAT FIELD FOR CITY HALL, I CANNOT FATHOM THERE WOULD BE ANY JURISDICTION ON ANY PLANET IN ANY DIMENSION ON ANY TIMELINE WHERE IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ETHICALLY UNSEEMLY FOR A TRANSIT ADVOCATE TO ADVOCATE FOR TRANSIT PARENTHESES THOUGH, I CAN SEE THAT IF THERE WERE, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE TEXAS AND A PARENTHESES.

IT'S MY HOPE THE MEMBERS OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER THE FACTS PRESENTED HERE IN AND COME TO A SIMILAR CONCLUSION.

SINCERELY KAYLA PRITCHARD.

SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE LETTER.

SO, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UM, QUESTIONS FOR MS. JOSEPH, MR. GREENBERG.

SURE.

UM, THIS JOSEPH, I THINK THE FIRST COMPLAINT, IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE ALLEGING, BUT I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT THE SECOND ONE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT WE HAVE A STATUTE OF LIMITATION OF TWO YEARS, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARTICLES THAT WERE WRITTEN PRIOR TO THAT, UM, THOSE DATES.

SO COULD YOU BRIEFLY EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT IS THE FRAUD THAT YOU'RE ALLEGING? UH, COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, BUT FRAUD IS ELECTION FRAUD AND IT IS A BOT WHEN ANY TYPE OF CAMPAIGN OR PROJECT CAUSE THAT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT RIDERSHIP AND COVER YOU WASN'T CONFLATED IN THE ACTUAL VALID LANGUAGE IN THE MIRROR, ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGE BEFORE AND PARTNERSHIPS THAT YOU CAN AFFECT FOOD ON THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, MAKE THE BALLOT FALLS AND ALL THIS STUFF FOR QUITE A DOCUMENT, KAYLA PRITCHARD WAS HIRED TO GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND PROMOTE INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT ACCURATE.

AND THOSE THE FIVE IS BASED ON THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE AND THE FACT THAT AS A REPORTER, HE COVERED THOSE BULLIES.

SO HE HAS MORE BACK IN THE 2017 BRIGHTER SHIFTS AND COVERAGE IN THE AUGUST MONTHLY ARTICLE THAT HE WROTE JUNE, 2018 AND GO BACK AND GO THIS FAR.

AND YOU'RE LIKE, I CAN READ TO YOU.

UM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FEBRUARY 10TH, 2016, UM, KURT CARSON FROM HOUSTON, METRO, ACTUALLY, YOU HIT THE DEFINITION OF RIDERSHIP AND HE SAID SPECIFICALLY NOT TO COME THERE WHILST THAT SERVICE 30 TO 40 WATERS AN HOUR, COMPARED TO THOSE THAT LIFELINE ACCESS ON JULY 25TH, 2016, TRANSIT EXPERT WHO ACTUALLY OVER SAW, UM, SHE'S BEEN RETRO, UM, SYSTEM RE-IMAGINING , RIDERSHIP AND COVERAGE, BASICALLY FAMOUS RIDERSHIP, THE TRANSIT AND THE COVERAGE AND THE BALLOT AS

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COMMISSIONER LAURIE.

UM, IS IT YOUR CONTENTION THEN THAT MR. PRITCHARD WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LANG THE EXACT LANGUAGE THAT APPEARS ON THE BALLOT? HE WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING ON THE BALLOT, BUT HE WAS THE POLICY WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT HE CONTRIBUTED TO THE TRANSPORTATION DISCUSSION FOR LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION.

UM, AND YET, IF YOU JUST PUT A SPECIFIC, I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO THE PROBLEM, CAME OUT LANGUAGE AND THEN SAID THAT PROJECT REALLY WAS PANTHERS, ESSENTIAL WORKERS.

IT DOES NOT EXPAND, CREATE JOBS, PROVIDE, I JUST WANT TO HAVE FOOD FOR THE JOB AND THE KITCHEN AND ALL CARE.

AND, UM, TO THE AIRPORT AND MAYOR ADLER'S SPEECH STATED THAT PROJECT CONNECT BRING MORE FREQUENT AND MEDIATION TO THE JOB BECAUSE TEACHING IN HEALTHCARE FROM TENS OF DOLLARS AND THE BALLOT LANGUAGE MIRRORS, QUESTION CONDITIONER, WHAT I'M FINDING, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY CONFUSE VOTERS BY LIFELINE AND PLEASANT BEING PROVIDED IN PROJECT.

IF YOU AND I WROTE IT SHOWS AND FROM VINEGAR.

UM, THE COMPANION TO THE OF NATURAL .

THAT IS HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, SIMILAR TO COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTOURS OF THE SECOND ALLEGATION.

UM, SO JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

IF WE PROCEEDED TO A FINAL HEARING ON THIS CASE, IS THERE, WHAT IS THE WORLD OF EVIDENCE THAT YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN GETTING? WHAT SORT OF DOCUMENTS OR WHAT SORT OF, UM, YEAH, WHAT SORT OF EVIDENCE WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN GETTING, BUT ALSO PRESENTING TO US AND RELATES TO THE THE SECOND ONE, CAN YOU MOVE CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH? THANK YOU.

I WOULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE ME WITH A COPY OF THE PROPOSITION PROPOSITION.

A AND I HAVE THIS SPECIFIC QUOTE AND LANGUAGE FROM FEBRUARY 10TH, 2016.

YOU'VE HEARD NURSING.

I CAN ARRIVE AT THE WORK SESSION WHERE HE ACTUALLY HAD PLENTY OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIDERSHIP AND COVERAGE.

AND I CAN ALSO PROVIDE THE LINK FOR JULY 23RD, 2015 OF CAPITAL RETRO, WHERE JARED WALKER ACTUALLY PROVIDED HIM TESTIMONY.

AND THEN HE ACTUALLY SAID, AND I JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH TWO DIFFERENT TIMES THE TRANSIT.

AND HE ASKED ME, BUT I FIND THAT PEOPLE ARE CONFUSING THE TWO.

AND IN FACT, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT PROPOSITION EIGHT DID AND CONTINUES TO DO AS A PROJECT, AND THEN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE DEFINITION I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, WHERE I WAS SHIPPED WITHOUT THE, HAVE TO BE AWARE WHEN WE GO INTO THE TOPIC THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID OUT THERE ABOUT FIXED ROUTE TRANSIT, MOSTLY BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL ARE CONFUSING, TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF TRANSIT THAT WE REALLY SEPARATING OUT MINE WHEN WE WERE CHOOSING WHY THE ISSUE, WE'RE REALLY THINKING LIKE A BUSINESS AND A BUSINESS CHOOSES, WHICH IS LOCKED IN MORE ANDREW INFANCY AND FOLK CAP SURVEY, APPROXIMATELY FIVE , 72% OF THE RESPONDENT TOLD WHITE.

THEY WOULD TELL ME FIVE TO 35, MAYBE $100,000

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AND HAVE ACCESS VEHICLES.

AND THAT IN THE TARGET AUDIENCE COVERAGE IS IF A GOAL THAT ARISES FROM THINKING OR RESPONDING TO ME HALF FOOT FOR EVERYONE.

AND THEN HE ADDED .

AND SO THAT JARED WALKER AND , UM, , UM, STORES CHURCH IN .

THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT PART WITH DIFFERENT GOALS FOR THEM.

EXCUSE ME, MS. JOSEPH WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER DAN BURKE.

YES MA'AM.

YES.

MS. JOSEPH, I I'M SORRY THAT YOU DIDN'T GET TO READ THE ACTUAL, UH, RESPONSE FROM CALEB PRITCHARD, BUT IN, IN WHAT YOU JUST HEARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THE DATES THAT HE WAS CITING FOR DIFFERENT ACTIONS, DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES ARE NOT CORRECT? I HAVE NO EMPLOYMENT.

UM, I DO KNOW THAT, UM, THERE'S A TWO YEAR WINDOW AND I HAVE TO REFILE THAT PROVISION I CAN DO THOUGH.

UM, BUT I CAN'T REPEAT THE DATE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE HIS EMPLOYMENT RECORD IN FRONT OF ME.

I HAVEN'T BEEN PULLED UP THE DOCUMENT, BUT I CAN'T SHOOT THE PAIN.

WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER CORMAC, UH, MS. JOSEPH, FROM LISTENING TO YOU, I'M KIND OF GETTING THE OPINION THAT MAYBE YOU THINK THAT CALEB PRITCHARD HAS MORE INFLUENCE AND WAS INFLUENTIAL AND GUIDING THESE PEOPLE.

UH, EVEN THOUGH HIS NAME IS NOT ON ANYTHING, UH, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE, I'VE GOT THE OPINION THAT YOU MAYBE THINK THAT HE WAS THE REASON HE WAS THE LEADER.

AM I RIGHT? YES.

MA'AM.

I WOULD BE BUSY WITH THE PHYSICALLY HARD TO COMMUNICATION FOR LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION POLICY.

AND THAT THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY EXPERTISE CAME FROM SITTING IN THE CAPITOL THAT SHOWED BOARD MEETINGS AND REPORTING THE STORIES TO GO OFF THE MONITOR AND OFTEN MONTHLY AND OTHER PUBLICATIONS MOCK LAB.

UM, SO I DO BELIEVE THAT HE WAS IN FULL AT, UM, AT LEAST IN THE DISTRICT GOING ON AND PROVIDING THE INFORMATION TO COME FROM NATASHA MEDICINE, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE REASON SHE HIRED HIM AND FOR HIM TO THEN GO INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN PROMOTE WHAT HE KNEW WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THAT CONSTITUENCY.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A CONSTANT, UH, ONE OTHER QUESTION THOUGH, I HAVE NOT READ THE ARTICLES WAS HE QUOTED IN THE ARTICLES ARE JUST A WRITTEN OUT OF, SINCE I HAVEN'T READ IT, HE WAS QUOTED AND OH, HE BROKE THEM.

OKAY.

YES, MA'AM, I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT I'M RELYING ON THAT A THIRD PARTY IS WHERE IT SAYS NEW HIRES FOR THIS ONE.

AND THEN ACTUALLY THIS IS JANUARY 15TH, 2019.

THAT'S WHEN THE AUTHOR MONITOR REPORTED SHEILA PURCHASE MOVIE, HIM ON COMMUNICATION FOR HER OFFICE, BUT HE STARTS WITH DISTRICT OR COUNCIL MEMBER.

CHAR MEDICINES HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED ONE OF HER MOST IMPORTANT EARLY TASKS, THE HIRING OF HER STAFF.

AND THEN IT GOES ON AND THEY CAME FROM, WILL BE HANDLING COMMUNICATION FROM HER OFFICE AS WELL AS LANGUAGE AND TRANSPORTATION POLICY .

BUT ALL OF THE OTHERS WERE WRITTEN BY HIM.

AND HE ASKED ME, PLEASE SAID IN THE BOARD ROOM AT CAPITOL METRO, AND ALSO TRYING TO COUNTER THAT.

SHE'S COOL.

UM, WHEN I TESTIFIED THERE, HE BROKE THE STORY.

UM, WHEN THE BOARD MEMBER EVENTUALLY RESIGNED BECAUSE OF A RACIAL SLUR.

SO ONE OTHER THING, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MAYBE IT'S HER OFFICE AND WHO SHE HAS, MAYBE WHAT YOU CONSIDER THE

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PROBLEM AND WHO SHE HAS HIRED AND WHO SHE HIRES ARE PEOPLE THAT THINKS THEY WILL DO THE JOB FOR THINGS THAT SHE WANTS.

SO THAT'S WHY SHE HIRED HIM.

IS THAT YOUR OPINION? WELL, MY OPINION IS SHE WAS HIRED BASED ON HIS EXPERTISE, HER COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND TRANSPORTATION POLICY.

SO IN THAT ROLE, HE ACTUALLY WAS THE PERSON THAT PROVIDED HER EXPERTISE.

UM, AND SO ONCE AGAIN, HE IS IN A UNIQUE POSITION BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE WERE WRITING ABOUT ALL OF THE POLICIES THAT THEY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CHARGED WITH.

UM, HAVE THE COUNSELOR WITH OFTENTIMES ON THE DIME SHE'S LEARNING AS SHE GOES.

SHE ACTUALLY BROUGHT A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE HAVING SAT IN BOARD MEETING SINCE 20 16, 20 17 AND WRITTEN ARTICLES FOR THE PUBLIC AT LARGE .

AND THEN EVEN AFTER I READ THEM, HE HAD, UM, THE VIDEO ON THE RADIO SHOW OFF THE MONITOR, TALKING ABOUT , I'M GOING TO GET, EXCUSE ME, MS. JOSEPH.

I'M GOING TO JUMP IN JUST A SECOND.

CAUSE I SEE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UH, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? AND THEN COMMISSIONER DANBURG AFTER THAT, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, WHICH IS THAT SUPPOSE WE AGREE WITH YOUR CONTENTION, THAT THERE WAS CAMPAIGN FRAUD THAT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE HAD INCLUDED INFORMATION THAT WAS FALSE, SUCH AS THAT IT WOULD EXPAND SERVICE FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS.

HOW DO WE TAKE THE LEAP AND SAY THAT THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT FRAUD IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CALEB PRITCHARD, EVEN THOUGH HE DOES, OF COURSE HAVE EXPERTISE.

THE WHOLE COUNCIL VOTED ON THIS.

YES.

UH, WE EACH HAVE INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITIES, COMMISSIONER GREENBURG, AND FOR HIM TO NOT TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND TO GET PAID, TO DO THE CAMPAIGN BASED ON HEALTH INFORMATION, INFORMATION THAT YOU WERE BOARDING ON, IT SEEMS TO TAKE IT TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL.

SO NOT AS THOUGH HE WAS NOT LEAVING JUST LITERATURE AND SAYING HERE ACTUALLY REPORTED ON THE PROS AND CONS AND UNDERSTOOD THE NUANCES ON MY OWN, ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER, PERHAPS.

SO THE FRAUD WAS PRIMARILY WHILE HE WAS WORKING ON THE CAMPAIGN OR WHILE HE WAS WORKING FOR THE DISTRICT OFFICE OR BOTH.

SO HOW CAMPAIGN, UM, WHETHER IT WAS DURING THAT TIME OR AFTER ALL RELIED ON THE SAME INFORMATION, IT WAS UNDERGIRDED BY TELLING ME 17 SHOULD SHOULD'VE TOLD ME 25, UH, RESOLUTION FROM CONTINENTAL KITCHEN, NUMBER 15 TO 17.

IF YOU FAST FORWARD TO THE SUMMER, IT RELIED ON THE INFORMATION FROM THE MAYOR.

UH, I'LL GET TO WHICH TIMEFRAME I BELIEVE HE WAS STILL IN OFFICE, BUT I HAVE TO LOOK AT HIS STATEMENT TO SEE IF HE WAS DOING OFFICE TIME OR RESIGNATION THAT I DID EXHAUSTION OF THE 24TH, 2020.

SO THE LANGUAGE HE WAS WELL AWARE OF THE LANGUAGE, IT WAS VOTED ON AUGUST 7, 20, 20.

OH.

HE WAS STILL AN EMPLOYEE AT THE TIME.

THE COMMISSIONER DAN BURKE.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? THANK YOU.

UH, YES.

MS. JOSEPH, UM, I, I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE, UH, AUSTIN MONITOR AND OTHER ARTICLES IN FRONT OF ME THAT, THAT, UH, THAT MR. PRITCHARD WROTE.

BUT, UH, IF YOU HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME PLEASE WHAT THE DATES WERE ON THOSE ARTICLES? YES, MA'AM.

SO CHAFF REMAP LAUNCHED ETHICS THAT INVITED A FEW WRINKLES AND THEN THE JUNE 11TH, 2018.

I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? JUNE, 2018.

OKAY.

NOT THE OFF THE MONITOR.

AND THAT WAS PARKED CONTEXT.

HAVE REMAP OCCURRED JUNE 3RD, 2018.

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SOMEBODY WAS REPORTING THE STORY, UM, JUST ABOUT A WEEK, EIGHT DAYS LATER, AND THE WRINKLES WERE NATURAL REAL PARTIES WHERE THEY COMPLAINED PEOPLE NEXT DOOR.

AND I BET I CAN TELL YOU THE REPORTER WHO MENTIONED NEXT DOOR AND METRO COMPLAINED BECAUSE NOWHERE FROM THERE, UM, THE NEXT ARTICLE AND JULY 10TH, 2018 AND KAYLA PRITCHARD AND ALL OF THE MONITOR, AND ACTUALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT THE $6 MILLION TAX AND HOW THAT WAS GOING TO BE USED FOR CATHOLIC CONNECT.

I MENTIONED TO YOU THE REAL STORY, SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2018, ON BEHALF OF THE METRO RANDY CAR ACTUALLY WENT INTO THE STUDIO, UM, KAYLA, HER AND MYSELF.

UM, I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE MAY 25TH, 2018.

UM, ALL RIGHT, I'M LOOKING RIGHT HERE.

NOW MAY 24TH, 2018.

AND THE TITLE IS THE PAINT GUY, AND HE'S A BOMB ON THE EVE OF CAP REMAPPING.

AND THAT'S WHERE TESTIFIED ON MAY 21ST, 2018, WHERE HE ACTUALLY INCLUDED OUR TESTIMONY.

AND THERE WAS ON THE OCTOBER 30TH TONY ARTICLE, IT WAS CALLED DAUGHTERS COMPLAINANT QUESTIONS, AND SHE KNOWS PICTURES ACTUALLY QUOTED ME, UM, EVEN THE MEMBER OF THE PLEDGE, WHICH I DID, UM, SO THAT THEY COULD UNDERSTAND THE PANS AND MORE PEOPLE WERE WRITING JOKES ABOUT THE WORDS I'M GOING TO TAKE HER HALF MOM PLEDGE CALLED PARK YOUR CAR, HALF A MILE FROM WHERE YOU LIVE, WHEN YOU'RE TIRED OF THAT, AND THEN WALK HOME AND WALK BACK.

SO YOU CAN FEEL WHAT IT IS, UM, WHAT IT'S LIKE JOSEPH SUGGESTED.

AND HE ENDED WITH A QUOTE AND DO A GUARANTEE EQUAL IN THAT ONE.

AND THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO YOU AND NONE OF THE MORNING SHE WOULD TAKE THE PLEDGE.

OKAY.

AND, AND, UM, I GUESS YOU WOULD HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING IF HE WAS DOING THESE ARTICLES FOR PAY FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE AUSTIN MONITOR OR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A VOLUNTEER THING, BUT DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ARTICLES? DO YOU HAVE ANY ARTICLES THAT WERE WRITTEN IN 2019 OR LATER OR ANY RADIO INTERVIEWS FROM 2019 OR LATER? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY LOOK, I USE ALL KINDS OF ARTICLES TO ESTABLISH THAT HE KNEW OF MY TESTIMONY AND HOW IT, HIS COMPLAINT AND THAT HE ACTUALLY, WHO I WENT AND SAW.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE HAS RACK HAS KIND OF ARTICLES AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WHEN YOU'RE, UM, IN THAT SPACE.

OKAY.

THE RE THE REASON I'M ASKING IS THAT AT LEAST IT APPEARS TO US FROM THE, THE, UH, STATEMENT OF FACTS BY MR. PRITCHARD, THAT HE DIDN'T START WORKING FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, NATASHA MADISON, HARPER, HARPER, MADISON UNTIL JANUARY 7TH, 2019.

AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF HE CONTINUED TO WRITE ARTICLES FOR OUTSIDE PAPERS WHILE HE WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

CERTAINLY, UM, I, I HAVE RESEARCHED, UH, HIS WRITINGS AND MY ARCHIVES, UM, CONSTRAINED HERE.

UM, AND, UH, UH, TIM WAS FAR TOO WATCHING THEM, UH, COMMISSIONER.

I WANTED TO JUST ESTABLISH FROM CONTEXT,

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UM, ON THE ARCATA ARTICLE, I WAS NOT ALLEGING THAT HE DID ANYTHING WRONG IN REPORTING THE BULLYING AND WHEN INDEPENDENTLY, I UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU.

AND SO, THANKS.

DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SECOND, THE FRAUD ASPECT OF THIS COMPLAINT? UH, COMMISSIONER JENNY, DO YOU KNOW HUGO? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I WANTED TO HEAR HER THE LAST PART OF HER SENTENCE THAT SHE WAS ABOUT TO, OH, EXCUSE ME.

SHE WAS SAYING THAT SHE, THE REASON THAT SHE WAS STATING, UH, WASN'T FOR EVIDENCE OF THE ARTICLE, THAT HE WAS DOING ANYTHING WRONG, BUT, AND I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT SHE WAS GOING TO SAY.

SHIRLEY WAS TRIPPED UP.

THAT WAS THE CONTACT AND HIS EXPERTISE.

UM, IF I HAD JUST STARTED WHERE HE GOT HIRED AND THEN BROUGHT FORWARD THE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, THE FRAUDULENT, UM, PROJECT CONNECT INFORMATION, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE DECONTEXTUALIZED INFORMATION BECAUSE PROJECT COMMIT AND CONNECTIONS, 2025 MAP IT, UM, CAPTURING THAT UNDERGIRDS PROJECT CAN THEN UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, YOU CAN'T STAY ON THE RAIL FOREVER.

YOU NEED A BUS TO GET YOU FROM POINT A TO POINT BEACH AND THEN BUS SYSTEM, KATHLEEN MA'AM.

AND SO HIS REPORTING WAS ON THE KATHLEEN, THAT PORTION AND PROJECT CONNECT HAS BEEN OUT OF THE BOAT HAPPENED WHEN HE WAS AN EMPLOYEE.

AND THEN HE WENT FORWARD INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE MISLEADING.

AND THEN FOR CONTEXT, THERE IS A DECEMBER 17, 20, 20 PRODUCT SPECIFIED THAT THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY PAID, UM, UM, FOR THE ELECTION, ESSENTIALLY.

AND THAT IS THE THING THAT I OFTEN TRAIN THE PARTNERSHIP.

UM, ACTUALLY I LIKE THAT IT'S A NUMBERS.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER LAURIE? UM, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AGAIN.

SO IS IT YOUR CONTENTION THAT HE KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY MISLED VOTERS? ABSOLUTELY.

AND HE HAD NO FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE PATH TURNED AROUND AND WENT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WAS INFORMATION I'M TELLING THE HORSE.

AND THEN IS IT ALSO YOUR CONTENTION THAT THE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU'VE LISTED, UM, IN THE COMPLAINT DR.

PIERCE BURNETTE, UH, MAYOR STEVE ADLER AND COUNCIL MEMBER AND KITCHEN WERE ALSO KNOWINGLY AND INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING THE PUBLIC? ABSOLUTELY.

UM, AND I ENDED UP MENTIONING THIS ONE, UM, AROUND ONE PARTY, DECEMBER 17TH, 2020, AND BECAUSE, UH, CONTRACTS.

SO, UM, WHEN THEY CHANGED THE PLAN TO BE HANDED OFF TO THE PARTNERSHIP NEXT YEAR, AND IT WAS DECEMBER 17, 20, 20 WENT OFF AND THE PARTNERSHIP ACTUALLY, UM, MET AND THEIR LONG ARC ON 12 29, 20 20, WHERE ALL AMERICAN STATES ARE IN TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW IN THE PAST MONTH.

SO WE WENT OVER WATER, THE JAW DROPPING FAILURE AND WALKED THE $371,000 HAS BEEN MINE, PHYSICIAN COMMITTEE, OTHER EVIDENCE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN THEN TALKS ABOUT, UM, GROUP LAUNCHING.

AND THEN, UM, AND THEN I'M TELLING HER 6, 20, 20 ON ALARMING DORMS TO THE PATH WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ASIAN TV, HDR, AND THOSE, THE INDIVIDUALS.

AND, UH, WE'RE AFFILIATED SPECIFICALLY WITH, UH, BROADMORE STATION AND KAYLA BROUCHARD.

AND ACTUALLY, UM, I FOLLOWED THEM ON HIM OVER HERE, SLEEP.

I WROTE ABOUT THE BAR ONE STATION AND THE , UM, THERE, THE BACKGROUND.

AND SO IN YOUR DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, JERMAINE, I BELIEVE, UM, THERE IS ANOTHER TERM , UM, WHO ACTUALLY RECUSED HERSELF IN THE HAWK WHEN I CAME OUT, UM, WHEN HE, AND SHE ACTUALLY DONATED TO THE PACK OF THE WORLD LEADERS, HER NAME, SHE WAS AN ATTORNEY AND A LOBBYIST, UH, COUNCIL.

I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER MCCORMACK HAS A QUESTION IF

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YOU ALL WERE SO CONVINCED THAT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WAS FRAUDULENT ARE BAD INFORMATION.

DID YOU TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT THIS WAS NOT CORRECT? UM, PROJECT CONNECT AND THE OTHER THINGS, UM, YOU HAD OTHER PEOPLE THAT COULD PROBABLY HAVE INFLUENCE IN WRITING AND MOST OF THE NEWSPAPERS OR PUBLICATIONS WANT TWO DIFFERENT SIDES.

OKAY.

UH, YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR A QUESTION.

I'LL GIVE YOU TWO OR MAYBE THREE COMMISSIONER DOHERTY, GERALD DARBY, AS THE CHILD WAS A COMMISSIONER, HE SPENT $20,000 OF THE LOAN MONEY AGAINST DROUGHT, UM, TOGETHER.

UM, HE ASKED, DO YOU THINK IT'D BE WORTH ME PUTTING AN AD ON K Z I HAITI IT WAS DARK THE BLACK RADIO STATION.

I SAID, CERTAINLY HE BROUGHT A BILL.

IT WAS GRIPPED.

AND , HE AT LEAST IN ONES AT THE TIME STATION MANAGER, STEVE STAB HAS BLOCKED ME AT AND WILL NOT LET THE PERSONNEL, AND HE CAN PROMPT HIM OF DO THE VOICE OVER FOR PERMISSION TO GO.

AND SO, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS AN INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, UM, THAT, THAT, UH, A NONPROFIT CANNOT INTERFERE IN THE ELECTION.

UM, THEY ACTUALLY ONLY PLAY POPE, UH, PROP EIGHT S ON JCI.

AND SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE.

UM, I FORWARDED THAT INFORMATION TO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION WITH CAPITAL METRO MONEY.

I WAS FROM THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION.

SO THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO ACT ON THAT INFORMATION, BUT IT IS DOCUMENTED NOVEMBER 3RD, UM, 2020, I SENT THAT EMAIL.

THERE WAS AN ARTICLE FROM THE AUSTIN BULLDOG ON OR ABOUT OCTOBER 2ND, UM, WHERE THEY DID DO BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY.

THEY ACTUALLY INCLUDED KATIE PRITCHARD AND TRUEST THE DORY.

UM, THEY, I HAD SENT HER VARIANTS ON MYSELF AND OTHERS, SO THEY HAD A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF THE STORY AND THEY TRIED TO PRESENT BOTH SIDES.

UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THERE WERE VERY FEW OF ME HOURS THAT ACTUALLY PUT OUT ANYTHING NEGATIVE.

UM, ABOUT PROJECT CONNECT.

I TESTIFIED, UM, MANY TIMES BEFORE CAPITOL METRO AND I ASKED THEM TO PULL OVER, BUT I COULDN'T FIT IT TO BE PROMPT AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S TALKED ABOUT MORE FREQUENT, MORE, AND I WANT TO BETTER CONNECT TO THE SURFACE.

AND IN FACT, THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T WANT TO VIEW AS 180 3 IS 24 TO 30 YEARS FROM THE LIGHT RAIL.

AND THAT'S WHEN THEIR MARCH 9TH, 2020 BOARD PACKET ON PAGE 29.

AND SO I WAS ASKING THEM TO STOP PROMOTING NORMAL ON TRADE CENTER BECAUSE THEIR OWN DOCUMENTATION STATING OTHERWISE, BUT THEY ASKED, PLAYED ON 550 TIMES.

AND THEN THERE WAS A PACK AD FROM DR.

COLLECTOR'S BROMANCE PACK THEN PLAYED ABOUT 150 TIMES FOR THE DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION.

UM, AND SO, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE OF US WHO HAD A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, UH, WANTED TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION OUT, UM, THEY WERE VERY HAPPY TO DO SO, BUT WE TRIED.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE.

DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ASPECT OF THE COMPLAINT? ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN, UM, MAKING SOME KIND OF MOTION AS TO THE DISPOSITION OF THIS COMPLAINT? HOW ABOUT THE FIRST, THE FIRST PART OF IT? WHY DON'T WE GET BACK TO THAT FIRST PART OF IT? UM, WITH RESPECT TO K AND THE REMUNERATION TOPIC, DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.

SO ANY, ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD CARRY THIS FORWARD OR, UM, I'M GOING TO MOVE.

SO EVEN THOUGH I UNDERSTAND THE REVOLVING DOOR ASPECT OF, OF POLITICS AND HOW SOME OF THESE PARTICIPANTS

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SEGUE IN AND OUT OF JOBS AND ROLES, UM, I DON'T SEE A BASIS FOR TAKING THIS TO A FINAL HEARING, BUT I'M, I'M WILLING TO BE CHALLENGED ON THAT.

CERTAINLY MR. MCCORMICK, I DON'T SEE, I SEE ANY BASIS.

I THINK THAT PROBABLY EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE EVER GOING TO HEAR WE'VE ALREADY HEARD, AND I CAN'T SEE THAT THERE IS ANYTHING THAT WE COULD COME TO ANOTHER CONCLUSION OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE LONG DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD, THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CUT AND CUT TO THE CHASE OR ANYTHING.

AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE BULLET POINTS OF ANYTHING THAT'S DONE, BEEN WRONG.

IT'S A, IT'S COMPLICATED AND CONFUSING, BUT NOT WRONG.

COMMISSIONER, LAURIE COMMISSIONER, CAL.

UM, ARE YOU SPEAKING WITH REGARDS TO THE FIRST ALLEGATION OR BOTH? I'M SPEAKING WITH RESPECT TO BOTH OF THEM, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY BREAK THEM UP IN TWO PARTS IF THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO GO ON THAT COMMISSIONER LEVIN'S UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, UM, THAT NEITHER OF THESE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

AND I THINK QUITE THE MOST SUCCINCT WAY I CAN PUT IT IS MR. PRITCHARD, DOESN'T MEET THE DEFINITION OF AN INDIVIDUAL THAT SERVED ON THE BODY, WHICH EXERCISE DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY, UM, AND EVERYTHING AFTER THAT IS, UH, IT MIGHT BE DISTASTEFUL, BUT IT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE CODE WITH RESPECT TO THE SECOND PART OF HER COMPLAINT.

UM, IT SEEMS TO ME, HER ALLEGATION OF FRAUD IS THAT SHE DISAGREES WITH HIS, WITH THE STATEMENTS THAT HE MADE.

UM, EVEN IF WE ASSUME THAT EVERY STATEMENT HE MADE IN EVERY ARTICLE THAT HE WROTE WAS FALSE.

IT STILL DOESN'T MEET THE DEFINITION OF FRAUD IN, UH, THE ORDINANCE TWO DASH THREE DASH 5 8 2.

UM, AND FRANKLY, I, I, I'M NOT SITTING HERE WITH ANY OPINION ON WHETHER WHAT HE SAID WAS TRUE OR FALSE.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE POINT OF WHAT, UH, WE'RE HERE TO ADJUDICATE.

UM, SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF A MOTION TO DISMISS BOTH PARTS, UM, AND IT MAY BE DISTASTEFUL.

UM, IT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF THE CODE THAT I CAN SEE EVEN AS ALLEGED.

SO IS THAT, UM, OFFICIALLY A SECOND OF MY EMOTION? SURE.

YEP.

OKAY.

SO IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION NOW THAT WE'VE SECONDED IT? YES.

COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. MY CONCERN BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD IS, IS THE DEFINITION OF SERVING ON THE BODY, WHICH EXERCISE DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY.

AND I THINK FROM A VERY STRICT OR LITERAL INTERPRETATION, IT COULD LEAD YOU, UH, ONE DIRECTION.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT MS. JOSEPH IS ARGUING THAT HE WAS HIRED, UH, FOR A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

UM, AND THAT WAS TO ASSIST THE COUNCILMAN WHO DID NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

AND SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE, UH, AS I, AS, AS I LIKE TO DISCUSS IN THESE SORT OF SITUATIONS, THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY IS ALL OVER THIS SITUATION.

AND IF, IF HE WAS HIRED TO, TO BE THAT EXPERT, BUT DIDN'T NECESSARILY CAST A VOTE, IS THAT DISTINCTION, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS A DISTINGUISHING FEATURE HERE THAT ALLEVIATES HIM FROM RESPONSIBILITY, COMMISSIONER MCCORMICK? UH, NO, YOU HIRE PEOPLE WHO, FOR THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEIR ADVICE, AND THEY DON'T COUNT THIS.

THEY DO NOT COUNT THE VOTES.

THEY, IF THEY ARE INFLUENCED ARE, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HIRED.

BUT NO, I CAN'T SEE THAT THEIR, THEIR NAME WAS ON NOTHING.

THEY'RE NOT, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE COMMISSIONER LAURIE, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT LOUDER.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, I AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET HYPER-TECHNICAL OR LET YOU KNOW, CITY EMPLOYEES OR OFFICIALS

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GET AWAY WITH UNETHICAL CONDUCT.

UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH IN THE PAST WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, THE CONDUCT LOOKS LIKE QUOTE UNQUOTE, BAD CONDUCT, RIGHT.

BUT WE STILL HAVE TO TIE IT TO A PROVISION IN THE CODE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, THE SUBSECTION K, WHICH IS CITED, UM, I DO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONDUCT DOESN'T FIT THAT DEFINITION BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEE DIDN'T SERVE, IT'S NOT JUST SERVED ON THE BODY.

UM, IT'S SERVED ON THE BODY AND PARTS OF THE ITEMS. SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, TWO REQUIREMENTS THERE.

UM, NEITHER OF WHICH WERE, ARE MET BY THE FACTS AS ALLEGED.

UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE SAME COMPLAINANT OR OTHER COMPLAINANTS CAN'T RAISE THE SAME CONDUCT IN ANOTHER COMPLAINT SIDING TO ANOTHER SUBSECTION, OR WE AS A COMMISSION CAN INITIATE A COMPLAINT AS WELL.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ALLEGATION, THE FIRST ALLEGATION, UM, I DO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT IT DOESN'T FIT.

UM, THE PROVISION OF SUBSECTION K COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. DO YOU HAVE, YEAH.

IF I MAY RESPOND, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS CAN THE ELEMENT FOR SERVICE AND PARTICIPATION BE SATISFIED BY RESEARCH AND INFLUENCING THE COUNCILMEN TO VOTE A PARTICULAR WAY? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS LIKE A STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THAT WOULD SUGGEST ONE THING AND A BROAD INTERPRETATION, SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

YEAH.

I GUESS MY RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE, THERE ARE BROADER PROVISIONS IN THE CODE THAT ADDRESS THE TYPE OF CONDUCT, UM, AND CONNECTION TO THE WORK THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I DO THINK THIS IS MORE NARROWLY CONSTRUED, UM, AND WRITTEN MORE NARROWLY, UM, TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO TORTURE OURSELVES OR TORTURE THE LANGUAGE TO TRY TO GET THERE WHEN THERE ARE OTHER PROVISIONS THAT ARE BROADER AND SERVE AS AN UMBRELLA TO CAPTURE SOME OF THE TYPES OF CONDUCT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

COMMISSIONER DAN BERG.

YEAH.

I, UM, I WANT TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THE IDEA THAT IT'S BAD CONDUCT TO HAVE A SPECIFIC AREA OF EXPERTISE AND BE HIRED TO WORK IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA OF EXPERTISE.

I MEAN, IF I WERE CARRYING ENVIRONMENTAL LEGISLATION, I WOULD LOVE TO HIRE THE PRESIDENT OF SIERRA CLUB OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL WRITER FOR THE AUSTIN STATES, AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN, TO HELP ME PUSH THAT ENVIRONMENTAL POSITION THAT I HOLD, OR IF I WERE WANTING TO, UH, PUSH TITLE NINE LEGISLATION, YOU KNOW, WOMEN'S PARTICIPATION IN SPORTS TITLE, SEVEN LEGISLATION WANTED TO PROMOTE THAT.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN EXCELLENT WOMAN ATHLETE WHO ALSO WROTE, YOU KNOW, WHO WAS A COMMENTATOR ON THE AIR ABOUT WOMEN IN SPORTS TO HIRE THAT PERSON TO COME ONTO MY STAFF.

AND SO, UM, I'M A LITTLE AFRAID THAT WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING OUT A CAUTIONARY NOTE SAYING, EH, WE GOT UP PUT SOME ARMS LENGTH BETWEEN OURSELVES AND THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE SOLICITING SUPPORT FROM WHEN WE'RE CAMPAIGNING, BECAUSE WE AGREE WITH THEM COMMISSIONER LAURIE.

AND YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, I, I, IN THIS CASE, I'M NOT SAYING NECESSARILY THAT WE HAVE BAD CONDUCT, BUT THAT CONCERN ABOUT WHEN THERE'S BAD CONDUCT AND IT DOESN'T QUITE FIT.

AND I SAY, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, BAD CONDUCT, BUT POTENTIALLY, UM, IMPROPER CONDUCT.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER DANBURG EITHER, AND I WOULD GO EVEN FURTHER THAT YOU CAN HIRE STUFF THAT NOT JUST HAVE AN EXPERTISE, BUT HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS YOU ON AN AREA THAT IS CONTROVERSIAL, UH, COMMISSIONER MCCORMACK, WHAT I HIRED STAFF AND HIRED THEM TO BE, TO DO A SPECIFIC JOB.

I WANTED THE BEST PERSON AND THE ADVICE THEY GAVE ME, MY NAME WAS GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT WAS ON IT, NOT THEIRS.

SO IT WAS MY DECISION AS IT WOULD BE WHOEVER THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DECISION AS TO WHAT THEY SUGGEST, WHAT THEY PUT THEIR NAME ON, NOT THE PERSON THAT WAS HIRED.

SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S

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WHY THAT I WAS THE BOSS.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO, BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG? I THINK ON THE FIRST COMPLAINT, EVEN IF WE WERE TO SAY THAT A COUNCIL AID AS PART OF THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND SERVES ON THE BODY, HE WAS NOT AN EMPLOYEE AT THE TIME WHEN HE WORKED FOR THE PACK.

AND SO I THINK THOSE DATES ARE REALLY CRITICAL, UM, AND SORT OF ALLEVIATES ANY NEED TO S TO DEBATE ABOUT A DEFINITION OF WHO IS, OR IS NOT ON THE BODY, BECAUSE AT THE TIME WHEN HE WORKED FOR THE PACK, HE WASN'T, IT DOES IN A WAY, EXCUSE ME, SORT OF BEG THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE NEED SOME KIND OF STRENGTH STRENGTHENING OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD EVALUATE THESE KINDS OF HIRING DECISIONS.

LIKE HOW SOON YOU CAN BE HIRED AFTER YOU'VE WORKED ON A NICHE ISSUE LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING, RIGHT? YES.

RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. AGAIN, I THINK WE, WE RECEIVED SOME TESTIMONY THAT SUGGESTS THAT THERE WERE MULTIPLE ARTICLES WRITTEN ABOUT HIS EXPERTISE, UH, AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC TRANSIT AND THAT THIS EXPERTISE WAS DEVELOPED OVER A PARTICULAR PERIOD OF TIME.

DO WE KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT HE, WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS WORKING IN A VOLUNTARY CAPACITY WITH THIS ORGANIZATION OR NOT? WE, WE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE EVIDENCE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AT THIS POINT, IT'S MERELY AN ALLEGATION.

AND SO, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HE WORKED FOR THE COUNCILMAN PRIOR TO LEFT AND BEGAN TO WORK FOR THE, THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP AND THEN CAME BACK.

AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW AT WHAT POINT IN TIME HIS AFFILIATION WITH THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP BEGAN, IT COULD HAVE BEGAN AT SOME POINT IN TIME PRIOR TO WHAT WE SEE IN HIS COMPLAINT, IT COULD HAVE, UH, CAME ABOUT IN A VOLUNTARY CAPACITY OR SOME OTHER CAPACITY, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF.

WE, WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTED WITH THAT INFORMATION NOR DID I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE EVEN ASKED FOR IT, BUT WE DO SEE A HISTORY OF HIM DEVELOPING THIS THOUGHT ON HOW TO EXPAND TRANSPORT TRANSIT IN THAT PARTICULAR SECTOR.

AND, UM, WE DO KNOW THAT HE WAS DEVELOPING THAT EXPERTISE OVER TIME.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT COMPLETELY SOLD ON THE IDEA THAT HE WAS SIMPLY THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB.

I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN HIS TASK OF SELLING THIS ISSUE OR HIS AGENDA OF SELLING THIS ISSUE TO THE PUBLIC VOTERS BEGAN.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT IN DETERMINING WHAT HIS INTENT WHEN HE QUIT, LEFT AND JOINED THE SPECIAL PACT AND RETURNED.

I THINK A LOT OF THIS DEPENDS ON HIS ACTUAL INTENT, AND WE WILL NEVER KNOW THAT I SEE, EXCUSE ME, I SAW COMMISSIONER LEVIN'S AND THEN COMMISSIONER MCCORMACK, UM, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. I, I THINK THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTION DON'T IMPACT WHETHER OR NOT HE SERVED ON A BODY WITH THAT EXERCISE DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY ON THIS MATTER.

UM, WE'VE HEARD REFERENCE TO REVOLVING DOOR STATUTES ABOUT WHICH I AM VERY, VERY, NOT AN EXPERT.

UM, SO THAT, THAT MAY VIOLATE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW IT CHANGES THE FACT THAT HE WAS NOT A, AN INDIVIDUAL THAT SERVED ON THE BODY, WHICH EXERCISED DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BAT BALLOT ITEM.

UM, SO I SEE THE CONCERNS THAT YOU RAISED.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY GET THEM INTO A VIOLATION OF SUBSECTION K IT'S MY, MY VIEW OF IT, COMMISSIONER MCCORMICK.

OKAY.

THAT IS NOT, WE, THAT'S NOT INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO US THAT WE KNOW.

SO THAT'S NOT ANYTHING WE CAN CONSIDER.

ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE, I MEAN, IF WE, IF, IF WE VOTED TO TAKE IT TO A FINAL HEARING, THAT IS INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE WITHIN OUR POWER TO REQUEST.

IF, IF WE WENT TO A FINAL HEARING, WE COULD STIPULATE SOME OF THE INFORMATION WE'D LIKE TO SEE, SO THAT SEE IT'S SPECULATION.

IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN OR THAT WE KNEW ABOUT.

SO IT'S JUST WOULD BE A GUESS.

RIGHT.

AND I, I THINK, I MEAN, MRS. UH,

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EXCUSE ME, MS. JOSEPH IS STILL ON.

SO IF YOU HAD FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR HER, I BELIEVE YOU COULD ASK THEM AT THIS POINT.

SO MY QUESTION TO MS. JOSEPH WOULD BE WHAT IS THE, THE BODY THAT MR. PRITCHARD SERVED ON? UM, HOW WOULD SHE SATISFY THAT COMPONENT OF SUBSECTION K WITH HER ARGUMENT? UM, I THAT HE WAS ARC OF THE COUNCIL BODY, UM, AND THE LANGUAGE .

AND SO OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC HAS NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

I RELIED ON INFORMATION I'M IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.

UM, I'M NOT SAYING THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG WITH HIS REPORTING BEFORE HE BECAME AN EMPLOYER.

I HAVEN'T RELIED ON THE INFORMATION I PUT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, UH, TESTIMONY AND, UH, THINGS OF THAT MAGNITUDE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SHOW THE PATTERN OVER TIME AND DEVELOPED HIS EXPERTISE.

AND THEN IT SAID, UM, PARTICIPATED IN THE DISCUSSION, EVEN POWER PEOPLE ARE HOLDING ON THE LINE.

HE DIDN'T GO ON THE HIM ON THE ITEM.

I THINK IT'S REASONABLE THAT HE PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE OF HIS 20 16, 20 15 TIMEFRAME.

SO, SO AGAIN, MS. MS. JOSEPH, I THINK THAT MOST OF US ARE STRUGGLING WITH THIS IDEA OF SERVING ON A BODY AND THAT, THAT REFERS TO A VERY SPECIFIC GROUP OR ORGANIZATION THAT HAS BEEN DELEGATED SOME SORT OF OBLIGATION.

UM, AND MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE, HOW DID HE SATISFY THAT COMPONENT OF SUBSECTION K ? I DO APOLOGIZE.

I WOULDN'T INTERPRET THAT HE WAS SERVING AS A MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL BOUGHT.

HE BOUGHT A GAME, UM, NUMBER, UM, UH, AN APPOINTED STAFF MEMBER.

UM, AND SO THAT WAS MY INTERPRETATION MISINTERPRETATION, UM, IN GOOD FAITH.

UM, BUT THAT IS WHERE A DISCRETIONARY OF POVERTY, IN MY OPINION CAME FROM.

IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT A BODY OF LIKE YOU WERE PUTTING AS A COMMISSION, AS A BARBIE, UM, THEN I'M NOT SITTING HERE POINTING TO THEM.

I AM POINTING TO, UM, HIS WORK IN THE CAPACITY AS A CITY COUNCIL EMPLOYEE INFORMING THE MEMBER, UM, WHO ACTUALLY VOTED ON THE ITEM.

UM, BUT THAT HE HAD THE EXPERTISE AND THEN 20 COMMISSIONER MCCORMACK, I THOUGHT MEETINGS OPEN.

ANYONE CAN SIT IN THOSE MEETINGS.

SO THERE ARE MOST OF THOSE COMMISSION MEETINGS THAT ARE OPEN OR BROADCAST OR SOMETHING.

SO THEY'RE NOT SECRET MEETINGS.

ANYBODY CAN SET ON THEM.

UH, I WAS BACK ON CONDITIONER.

I WASN'T A THING THAT YOUR MEETING WAS CLOSED DOWN WITH HIM WHEN HE WAS IN THE COMPETITION.

UM, AND HANDLING THEM ALL TO SAY, IF YOU WERE REFERRING TO A BODY SUCH AS YOUR OWN, UH, ETHICS REVIEW COMMISSION, UM, THAT THAT WAS NOT WHAT I WAS POINTING TO.

UM, I DIDN'T SITUATE AND CONDITION, IF THAT IS WHAT YOUR INTERPRETATION IS, BODY, I RELIED ON THE LANGUAGE AT STEP FIVE DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY, UH, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BALLOT ITEM, BASED ON THE CHEESE, I READ THAT HE INFORMED WITH THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS LOOKED AS IF YOU WANTED TO PURSUE IT.

JOSEPH, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC INSTANCES, UH, OR ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS THAT HE OFFERED HIS EXPERTISE TO THE GOVERNING BODY AT LARGE OR IN GENERAL? UM, DO YOU HAVE INSTANCES WHERE PERHAPS YOU CAN TIE LANGUAGE IN HIS ARTICLES OR PUBLICATIONS TO THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ULTIMATELY PRODUCED BY THAT BODY? IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU CAN LINK HIS DIRECT PARTICIPATION TO THAT BODY? IS, IS THE QUESTION THAT I'M ASKING, UM, CERTAINLY COMMISSIONER, UM, THE WORLD OF TRANSIT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S PRETTY INTERLINKED.

AND SO I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A REAL QUICK EXAMPLE THERE, THE $900,000 EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT GRANT, UM,

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THE RESOLUTION WAS ACTUALLY A SPONSOR COMES FROM HIM AND THE TALK SHOP IN MADISON.

AND I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT IF I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THAT RESOLUTION SPECIFICALLY, I CAN TIE IT TO MONEY WAS ACTUALLY A MINE, HAD GREEN IN PROJECT CONNECT.

AND I WENT TO TELL HIM THAT WHILE I NAMED THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, I DIDN'T PROVIDE THE EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT INFORMATION.

UM, BUT IT RELIED ON NORCO OR TRANSIT CENTER OR RIDERSHIP.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND SO THAT DOCUMENT IS INFOBLOX.

I WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE THAT RESOLUTION AND I WOULD LOOK AT THE ARTICLES AND THE EXPERTISE THAT APPEARED IN PUBLIC DOMAIN AND LINE BY LINE ON PARAGRAPH, BY PARAGRAPH, I'M SHOWING YOU HOW THE TWO CORRELATE AND HOW THEY WORKED TOGETHER TO HANDLE.

I'M GOING TO SUGGEST AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING MUCH NEW INFORMATION THROUGH FURTHER QUESTIONING.

UM, UNLESS YOU HAD ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, ANY OF YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER DANBURG.

YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANTED, SINCE WE DO HAVE A MOTION THAT'S BEEN SECONDED.

IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY MORE COMMENTS, UH, WANTED TO MOVE THE QUESTION, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY OFF.

ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE QUESTION.

I WILL REPEAT THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

YOU'LL CORRECT ME IF I GET IT WRONG SOMEHOW.

UM, I MOVED TO DISMISS BOTH SECTIONS OF THIS COMPLAINT, UM, AND COMMISSIONER LEVIN SECONDED THAT DID I STATE THAT PROPERLY? DID I DO THAT? OKAY, LYNN.

OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE VOTE, UM, ALL IN FAVOR AND I'LL JUST GO AROUND THE ROOM.

RAISE YOUR HANDS, UH, COMMISSIONER LAURIE.

I'LL JUST I'LL CALL NAMES.

I HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN A WHILE, BUT I'LL CALL NAMES.

I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN.

OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER MCCORMICK? YES.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER TENANT.

YUCA.

YES.

COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER KALE.

I'M A YES.

UM, COMMISSIONER DANBURG YES.

COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.

YES.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER LEVIN'S OTHER BUTTON.

YES, WE DON'T.

OKAY.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY, ANY COMMISSIONERS TUNING IN REMOTELY.

SO I HAVE SIX IN SUPPORT.

SO IT DID PASS, UM, WITH, UH, UH, SINCE THAT'S A QUORUM AND IT DID PASS.

SO, UM, MS. JOSEPH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR PASSION ABOUT TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IN AUSTIN.

YOU'VE CERTAINLY EDUCATED ME OVER THIS, THESE LAST, UM, TIMES WHEN WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

WE ALL DO WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO GO ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

YES, YES.

THANK YOU, MR. KELSER.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

UM, LET'S SEE.

[3. NEW BUSINESS]

OH, NEW BUSINESS DISCUSSION.

THIS IS THE THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

UM, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING CANDIDATE FORUM DISTRICT FOUR CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED AT CITY HALL ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 6TH, 2022 AT 6:00 PM.

JUNIOR 25TH, 2022 IS ELECTION DAY WITH THE FIRST DAY OF EARLY VOTING ON JANUARY 10TH, 2022.

SO, UM, COMMISSIONER MCCORMICK, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OR DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE THREE CANDIDATES THAT HAS FILED.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT THE THREE, IS IT JUST THREE? THE LAST I SAW.

OH, WE'VE OH, WE'VE HAD MORE.

OKAY.

I'M BEHIND NOW.

UH, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IN CITY HALL.

IT WILL BE TELEVISED, RIGHT.

LAN AND CAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE CHAMBERS ASSUME AND