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[Independent Citizen's Redistricting Commission]

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IT IS 6:01 PM.

WE HAVE NINE OUT OF 14 COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.

I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW THE ORDER OF THE INDEPENDENT CITIZENS PHISHING MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 15TH.

ALL RIGHT, CAN YOU PLEASE DO ROLL CALL ARDEN SCHNEIDER HERE.

DEMPSEY IS ALL THIS HERE LANDS HERE.

SO THE NINE COMMISSIONERS COMING IN NOW.

WELCOME FISHER CAMPBELL.

WE WERE JUST DOING ROLL CALL AND LET'S GO THROUGH TODAY'S AGENDA.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY FROM WHERE YOU ARE? OKAY.

MEETING GOALS, DISCUSS ADOPT ANNEXATIONS, DISCUSS REVIEW STAFF, CONTRACT EXTENSIONS, DISCUSSING THE RCRC WEBSITE, DISCUSS REVIEW COMMISSIONER COMMITMENTS.

SO SEE THIS COMMUNICATION.

NOBODY SIGNED UP THAT I DON'T WANT APPROVAL OF MINUTES TO ICRC, MAY DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, A DISCUSSION ON ADOPTION OF ANNEXATIONS AND JUST ANNEXATIONS THE DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF RICHARD'S MOBILE CONTRACT EXTENSIONS, SEE DISCUSSION AND ADOPTION OF FINAL REPORT.

SO YOU WANT CITY TRANSLATIONS, OTHER LANGUAGES.

SEE TWO SIGNATURES REPORT THE UPDATE ON NEW ICRC WEBSITE, THE ONE WORKING BEFORE WEBSITE, A DISCUSSION OF CURRENT COMMISSIONER'S ABILITY TO RC, A HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, REPORT ROADMAP, AND RECORD RETENTION.

THANK YOU.

SO WE WOULD BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, BUT YOU SAID THAT NO ONE CAN SIGN UP SPEED.

I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE-CHECK.

SO, UH, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS AGENDA ITEM ONE, APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 27TH MEETING, THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED VIA EMAIL.

DID EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO VIEW THOSE? ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? OKAY.

THERE ARE NO FURTHER CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES.

OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TWO A, THIS IS THE DISCUSSION AND ADOPTION OF ANNEXATIONS AND A D OR DIS ANNEXATION.

UH, THERE ARE EACH TOTAL ANNEXATIONS GROUPED BY CITY COUNCIL AND ONE DISSENT, RIGHT? UM, SOME OF THESE APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN APPROVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

UM, BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THESE, UM, AND I WILL ASK, UH, ANDRE FROM THE CITY TO PRESENT ON THESE VARIANCES.

WE DO HAVE COPIES OF THESE AT OUR SEATS.

SO DOES EVERYBODY HAVE THIS? IT HAS THE MAP.

I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THESE ANNEXATIONS.

I'LL START WITH 1 38 KIND OF IN THE SAME SEQUENCE AS THE THERAPY IN THE MEMO OF HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO STOP ME.

I'LL BE A LITTLE BRIEF JUST TO CONSERVE EVERYONE'S TIME.

BUT IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR YOU WANT FURTHER EXPLANATION, PLEASE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

I'M HAPPY TO, OR, OR JUST MENTIONED IT TO THE CHAIR AND I'M HAPPY TO STOP AND PROVIDE FURTHER EXPLANATION.

SO, UH, SO THE FIRST THING ANNEXATION AND CONSIDERATION IS, UH, FROM 2019

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AND IT'S A PILOT KNOB MUDS TRACK B THROUGH E G THROUGH H AND F.

THAT WAS IN A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF, UM, FACTS THAT WERE IN THE PILOT PILOT, UM, FOR ABOUT 165 ACRES THAT WAS SOUTHEAST AUSTIN DISTRICT TWO, ADJACENT TO DISTRICT TWO.

UH, SO LIMITED PURPOSE JURISDICTION IS INCLUDED IN OUR CITY LIMITS.

SO WE HAVE OUR CITY LIMITS HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF JURISDICTION HAS FULL PURPOSE AND LIMITED PURPOSE.

AND FULL PURPOSE IS OUR TAXING JURISDICTION FOR THAT IS THE PART OF OUR CITY WHERE EVERYONE WHO IS IN OUR FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION PAYS TAXES AND GETS FULL CITY SERVICES ARE LIMITED PURPOSE JURISDICTION HAS A MORE OF A REGULATORY JURISDICTION.

SO THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR REGULATIONS APPLY.

OUR ZONING CODE APPLIES BUILDING CODES, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT APPLIES IN FULL PURPOSE APPLIES TO LIMITED, BUT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE TAXES.

AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE MOST CITY SERVICES.

DO PEOPLE LIVE THERE? ARE THEY LOVE IT? YES.

YEAH.

UNDER OUR CHARTER, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE IN CITY ELECTIONS, UM, FOR ALL LIMITED PURPOSE PRESIDENTS JUST TO CONFIRM.

SO, UM, THE, ALL OF THESE ANNEXATIONS AND THE ANNEXATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND ARE GOING FOR THROUGH THE APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL, HOWEVER, OUR GOAL IS TO PUT THEM INTO THE DISTRICTS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND SO, AND SO ACTUALLY, UM, BUT JUST, JUST ON THAT POINT, THERE'S TWO MAPS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THIS.

UM, ONE IS A MAP THAT'S MAINTAINED BY THE CITY AND IT'S OUR JURISDICTIONS MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE OUR CITY LIMITS ARE AND THEN ALSO WHERE OUR ETJ IS.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS MAP.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY LIMITS MAP WE AMEND, AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT I FOLLOW TO AMEND OUR CITY LIMITS THROUGH OUR TECH TECH DEPARTMENT OR CTM DEPARTMENT DOES THAT.

UM, BUT THEN THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS MAP, I DON'T, WE DON'T MODIFY THAT WITHOUT DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY.

AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S SOME VARIANCES BETWEEN OUR CITY LIMITS MAP AND THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS MAPS, BECAUSE WE WILL NOT GO IN UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY.

WE WILL NOT GO IN AND MAKE CHANGES TO THAT MAP WITHOUT YOU ALL, UM, RECOMMENDING THOSE CHANGES.

YES, IT DOES.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE ONE MORE CLARIFICATION.

SO, UM, JUST, I WAS ABSENT AT OUR LAST MEETING, BUT JUST TO CONFIRM, SO WE ARE PUTTING THEM INTO THE DISTRICTS THAT WE APPROVED.

THOSE ARE NOW THE STANDING DISTRICTS.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

CAN YOU DO SOME GREAT QUESTIONS? UM, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

ANDRE, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT POPULATION OF EACH OF THESE AREAS IS? APPROXIMATE? YEAH.

YEAH.

I DO HAVE THAT DATA.

SO, UM, I DID THAT FOR GEORGE.

I WENT IN AND I LOOKED AT, UM, SATELLITE IMAGERY FROM THE MOST RECENT SATELLITE IMAGERY FROM 2021.

AND NONE OF THESE AREAS HAD ANY POPULATION, UH, EXCEPT FOR THE DECENTRALIZATION AREA.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, OR MAYBE I LOOKED AT, UM, AS OF THE TIME OF THE 20, 20 CENSUS, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NO POPULATION ON ANY OF THESE TRACKS.

YEAH.

OTHER THAN THE ANNEXATION, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THERE TO BE POPULATION AS THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING DEVELOPED.

UM, DO YOU KNOW THE POPULATION FROM THAT DISSATISFACTION? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S DISTRICT SIX.

OH YEAH, YEAH, NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO SEE THESE AREAS WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF, THERE IS A MAP FOR EVERYBODY, UH, FOR REASON KNOWLEDGE, AND THEY DO LABEL WHERE ALL OF THESE, UM, IF YOU WANT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOG INTO THE DOL ONLINE AND I COULD SHOW THE PARCEL.

WE COULD ZOOM IN ON THE MAP.

IF IT'S NECESSARY, THIS INFORMATION IS ONLINE.

IT SHOULD BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH THAT.

BUT, UM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALL THESE ANNEXATIONS ON A PARCEL

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BY PARCEL PLACES.

YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE.

DO YOU MIND TAKING US THROUGH EACH OF THE VARIANCES AND WHAT THEIR ADJACENT DISTRICTS, ADJACENT DISTRICTS? LIKE WHERE ARE WE THE DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WERE THEY MOST? YEAH.

SO, SO, UM, MOVING ON FROM NUMBER ONE TO NUMBER TWO, UM, THIS WAS ACTUALLY A PFLUGERVILLE ISP CAMPUS THAT WE ANNEXED IN LATE 2019.

AND IT IS IN DISTRICT ONE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL USE IT'S THERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A TRANSPORTATION.

IT'S A TRANSPORTATION FACILITY FOR THEM, THE DISTRICT MOVING ON TO DISTRICT OR AT VARIOUS NUMBER THREE, THIS IS SOUTHEAST AUSTIN.

I'M SORRY.

THESE MAPS COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER.

I SHOULD APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT IT'S HARD TO TELL WHAT THE ROADS ARE, BUT THIS IS OFF OF MCKINNEY FALLS PARKWAY, CLOSE TO MAKE ANY FALLS, MCKINNEY FALLS, STATE PARK, JUST TO THE EAST.

DID THIS TRACK WEST, DID THIS DRAG? SURE.

UM, SO FOR VARIANCE NUMBER THREE, THIS IS SOUTH SOUTHEAST AUSTIN AND MCKINNEY FALLS PARK IS JUST TO THE WEST OF THIS TRACK.

AND IT'S ALL, BUT MAKE ANY FALSE PARKWAY PLACE OR WHATEVER THAT IS, IS THAT THAT AREA.

UM, BUT CAN YOU BALLPARK IT? YOU SEE WHERE IT BLOCKED FREE? ZERO ONE IS JUST DOWN THIS WAY AND MAKE ANY FALSE KIND OF BANDS DOWN THAT WAY.

BUT THIS IS DISTRICT TWO, TWO.

YEAH.

NONE OF THESE HAVE ANY POPULATION, CORRECT.

SORRY.

GLAD YOU COULD JOIN US.

OKAY.

MOVING ON TO NUMBER FOUR.

THIS IS ALSO, UM, SOUTHEAST AUSTIN.

THIS IS KIND OF OFF OF, UH, BAXTON ROAD AND MCKINNEY FALLS PARKWAY WHERE THE TWO MEET AND IT SAYS ADJACENT TO DISTRICT TWO.

NUMBER FIVE IS VERY, IT'S VERY, IT'S JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM, UM, NOT THERE THREE RIGHT.

ADJACENT TO, UM, MCKINNEY FALLS APART.

AND, UM, DISTRICT TWO THAT SORT OF NARROW STRIPS.

CAN YOU FALSE PARKWAY MOVING ON NUMBER SIX IS DISTRICT ONE ADJACENT TO DISTRICT ONE IT'S RIGHT OFF FROM CAMERON ROAD.

SORRY.

IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE MAPS HERE, BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S BOTH OF CAMERON ROAD, NORTH ROAD AND IT WILL BE, UM, MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS.

NUMBER SEVEN IS, WOULD BE DISTRICT SIX.

IT WAS SIX.

AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY STILL SIX IT'S OFF OF FM SIX 20, JUST SOUTH OF ANDERSON MILL.

IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT ANDERSON MILL ROAD IS JUST AS KIND OF THE OUTLINE OF THE STREET.

IT'S JUST TO THE NORTH OF THIS PARCEL.

SO IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION OF ANDERSON MILL AND FMC.

YEAH.

AND THEN A, JUST THAT IN THE LAST WEEK IS, UM, BACK TO PILOT KNOB, IT WAS SOME MORE PARCELS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE PILOT, NOT THE MUD AS PART OF AN AGREEMENT WITH, WITH THAT MUD.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE LARGER ONES THAT, THAT WILL ALSO BE LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION.

THE REST OF THESE ARE FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION AND EIGHT ONE AND EIGHT ARE BOTH LIMITED PURPOSE JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

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IT'S 242 ACRES.

UM, ANDRE, JUST TO BE CLEAR.

UM, SO THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE AN EXECUTIVE ORDINANCE LIKE THE OTHER ONES DO.

UM, AND SO IT STILL NEEDS TO BE SIGNED BY MAYOR ADLER.

RIGHT.

UM, HOWEVER, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE CAN STILL PLACE THIS KIND OF PATIENT INTO A DISTRICT.

UM, AND THEN WHEN THE ORDINANCE GOES INTO EFFECT, SO WILL THIS DECISION, IS THAT CORRECT? NO ONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY PANIC STATIONS.

I'LL GO ON TO NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS A DISCONNECT STATION.

AND THIS WAS JUST A VERY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE, UM, THAT, THAT WE ONLY CAUGHT BECAUSE, UM, A COLLEAGUE AND MYSELF WERE, WE'RE DOING SOME QUALITY CONTROL ON THE MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THERE WERE NO VARIANCES BETWEEN CITY LIMITS AND SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.

AND OTHER THAN THE ANNEXATIONS WE'VE GONE OVER, THE ONLY ONE WE FOUND WAS THIS ONE FROM 1989.

UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS HAPPENS.

UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY BEEN IN OUR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, LATE DATA FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO IT'S JUST, UM, IT'S JUST A CORRECTION.

IT'S JUST A SMALL CORRECTION AND IT DOES HAVE POPULATION THERE'S 24 UNITS.

UM, HOW HAS IT, HOW IS IT A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENT RESIDENTS RESIDENCES? SO WE'LL HAVE A, AN IMPACT ON VOTING POPULATIONS, PEOPLE IN THOSE 24 UNITS, JUST TO BE EXTRA SURE FOR THIS.

I DID GO, I WENT BACK AND VERIFIED WITH THE ORIGINAL ANNEXATION FILE THAT THE, IT IS THE RIGHT GEOGRAPHY.

SO I INCLUDED THAT IN, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT WAS THAT PRINTED OR WAS THAT JUST OUTLINED IN THE BACKUP? SO JUST IN CASE YOU WANT TO SEE IT.

AND ALSO THIS IS VERY HELPFUL IN JUST CREATING A PAPER TRAIL FOR THIS CHANGE IN CASE ANYONE EVER ASKS WHY THEY COULD VOTE IN 2012 AND 2016, BUT NOW THEY CAN'T THAT KIND OF THING IN CITY ELECTIONS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I HAVEN'T VERIFIED THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE KIND OF ANYONE WHO IS LOOKING AT THE VOTING INFORMATION WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT IT WAS IN OUR VOTING JURISDICTION.

AND SO PRESUMABLY ANYONE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE ABLE TO VOTE.

I MEAN, IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE TECHNICALLY, BUT WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS BEING NOTIFIED ABOUT THEIR CHANGE IN VOTING, UM, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NOTIFIED VOTES, MAYBE A CAROLINE'S ON.

YEAH.

HI EVERYONE.

UM, IT'S HARD TO SAY BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF OUTSIDE THE NORMAL OCCURRENCE AND THE LAW, UH, WHENEVER PRECINCT LINES ARE REDRAWN, UH, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT VOTER REGISTRAR NOTIFY THESE VOTERS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE CLEAR IN THIS CASE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE ANNEXATION OCCURRED SO LONG AGO.

HOWEVER, UM, I THINK REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES HERE, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS DONE MAYBE BY THE CITY ITSELF, UM, THAT WE CAN SEND OUT SOME LETTERS.

WE CAN IDENTIFY WHO THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE AND JUST LET THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

UM, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO GO IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY GO AND TRY TO VOTE, YOU KNOW, THINKING THEY'RE STILL ELIGIBLE AND, AND THEY CAN'T VOTE.

UM, WE, IT IS POSSIBLE TO LOOK UP VOTING HISTORY AND FIND OUT IF THEY HAVE BEEN VOTING.

UH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVEN REALLY NECESSARY TO DO, BUT I, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A MECHANISM FOR THEM TO BE OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED BY THE BLOOD REGISTRAR OF TRAVIS COUNTY.

UH, BUT I DO THINK THE CITY CAN TAKE A STEP TO EITHER ASK THE VOTER REGISTRAR TO DO THAT, OR WE OURSELVES CAN DO SOMETHING.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REQUEST REQUEST, CRC ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SO MAYBE WE CAN WORK OFFLINE ON AND OTHERS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

SO I THINK REQUESTS FROM THE ICRC TO THE VOTER REGISTER TO NOTIFY THESE PEOPLE AS APPROPRIATE A GOOD THING, THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND THIS AREA IS A BIG DEAL NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT WITHIN THE CITY.

UM, IT WAS, IT HASN'T BEEN IN THE CITY LIMITS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL SINCE 1989, BUT IT WAS IN OUR, OUR VOTING MAP.

I'M NOT

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SURE WHAT, HOW THAT HAPPENED, BUT SO FROM A VOTING PERSPECTIVE, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE, PRESUMABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO VOTE IN CITY ELECTIONS THIS WHOLE TIME, BUT OTHERWISE NOT PART OF THE CITY, BUT NOT PART OF THE CITY.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND WE DO HAVE MR. CORBELL WITH US AS WELL.

IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS FOR MR. KORBEL IS OUR NEXT STEP, THEN JUST MOVE THESE DIFFERENT ANNEXATIONS INTO THE APPROPRIATE DISTRICTS.

RIGHT.

AND, AND IT SEEMS THAT WE HAVE DETERMINED REALLY, THERE'S ONLY ONE DISTRICT THAT EACH OF THESE AREAS GO INTO THAT THERE'S CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT SEEMS TO JUST NOT REALLY ROOM FOR DEBATING WHERE THEY GO.

UM, SO LIKE FOR THE FUTURE, UM, ALL OF THESE, THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE BEING ADDED, I KNOW THAT THERE AREN'T PEOPLE RESIDING THERE, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY TO KNOW WHAT THE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY COMPACITY IS OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS? YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW MANY HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SURE.

YEAH.

WE, I MEAN, WE COULD GET A ROUGH ESTIMATE BASED ON THE ZONING.

WE MIGHT NOT HAVE A SITE PLAN AT THAT AT THAT TIME.

SO, BUT BASED ON THE ZONING, WE COULD GIVE YOU AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY THAT, THAT COULD BE.

OKAY, COOL.

THANK YOU.

BECAUSE THEY RESPOND TO THAT, THAT I GET THAT LIKE, AFTER LOOKING AT POPULATIONS FOR SO LONG, LIKE VERY INTERESTED, BUT JUST AS WE DID WITH THE RESULTS OF THE CENSUS, WE HAVE TO DO LIKE POINT IN TIME.

SO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL GO INTO THAT AREA, LIKE WON'T ACTUALLY MATTER UNTIL THEY'RE COUNTED IN THE CENSUS 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

SO I APPRECIATE IT AS LIKE AN ACADEMIC EXERCISE, BUT FOR NOW, FOR OUR PURPOSES, IT'S THAT NO PEOPLE ARE THERE.

DO YOU THINK IT'LL MATTER? I JUST ASKED YOU THE REASON WHY I ASKED IS I WAS, YOU KNOW, THESE SEEM ALL PRETTY OBVIOUS, BUT IF IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO DISTRICTS AND WE KNEW THAT ONE DISTRICT HAD THE LESS PEOPLE THAN THE OTHER ONE, WOULD IT SEEM LIKE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ADD IT TO THE ONE WITH LESS PEOPLE? AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S EVEN, EVEN THOUGH THAT'D BE AN INTRIGUING NUMBER TO HAVE, AND IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE, LIKE FULL FOR THINKING WHILE WE HAVE A SET OF CRITERIA OVER IT'S BASED ON THE CENSUS, IT'S BASED ON EXISTING VOTING PRECINCTS, FEEL LIKE TO GET INFORMATION ON HOW MANY FOLKS WOULD THE END THERE IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS BODY IN THE SENSE OF DRAWING AND DRAWING THE LINES.

UM, BUT THAT'S A 2 CENTS ON IT.

THIS ISN'T EVEN RELEVANT TO THIS SITUATION.

I THINK IT'D BE INTRIGUING IF IT WAS LIKE, OH, IT COULD OFFSET POPULATION EFFECT THE DEVIATION OF COMFORT, SUPPOSED TO STAY WITHIN A CERTAIN DEVIATIONS.

WE SHORTED SOME AUGUST JUST THANKFULLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT THESE ANNEXATIONS PRESENTED TO, I THINK THEY'RE ALSO JUST BE A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO POPULATION GROWTH, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SO FAR DOWN THE LINE.

I WOULDN'T PUT THAT AS A CONCERN OF OURS, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT.

SO I THINK THE MOST SENSIBLE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD AND ADOPTING THESE IS, UH, SIMPLY LISTING THE ORDINANCE NUMBERS AND MAYBE WE CAN GO DISTRICT BY DISTRICT.

UM, DOES THAT SOUND GOOD TO EVERYBODY? I'M JUST THINKING THAT WE MIGHT, UH, MIGHT BE MORE EFFICIENT TO LIST EVERYTHING AND HAVE ONE MOTION TO MOVE ON.

ALL OF IT.

SURE.

THAT'S ALSO FINE.

CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BROUGHT TO US TO PERFORM, I GUESS, MOVE THE ANNEXATIONS INTO THE RECOMMENDED DISTRICTS AND THEN REMOVE THE ANNEXATION FROM THE DISTRICT.

IT WASN'T RECENTLY.

SURE.

UM, I THINK MAYBE WE COULD DO ONE MOTION FOR ANNEXATIONS AND

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THEN ONE FOR THE ANNEXATION.

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD PLAN? OKAY.

SO WHAT IS YOUR MOTION? I MADE A MOTION.

SO YOU WANT TO ADMIT IT THEN? WELL, IT'S NOT EMOTION CAUSE PEOPLE HAVEN'T ACCEPTED IT.

UM, I'M PROPOSING THAT THE MOTION IS VERY SPECIFIC AND THAT WE'RE LISTING OUT THE ORDINANCE NUMBERS.

IF YOU SEE THE COLUMN THERE, UM, THERE ARE NUMBERS LISTED SO THAT WE KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE ANNEXING HERE.

UM, AND, AND DEANNA, GO AHEAD.

WE'LL HAVE TO JUMP OVER THIS.

NOBODY'S MADE A RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S WHERE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO, CAN I JUST GO DOWN THE LIST? I JUST WANT TO GO DOWN THE LIST, DO THE ORDINANCE NUMBER, SAY WHICH DISTRICT.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION INQUIRY.

YES.

RIGHT.

UM, I, I HAD ENVISIONED THAT IT WOULD, YOU JUST, I MOVED TO A JOB AND THEN RUN THROUGH THE NUMBERS, UM, AND STATING WHICH DISTRICT EACH ONE IS PLACED INTO THE EMOTION.

IT WASN'T SECONDED, SO IT'S NOT ON THE TABLE SO ANYONE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENT MOTION.

SO I TAKE THE ORDINANCE NUMBER, I SUPPOSE, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO USE? SO I MOVED TO TAPE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 1 9 0 1 3 1 DASH 0 1 3 AND INCORPORATED INTO DISTRICT, UH, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 1 9 1 0 0 3 DASH 0 6 8 INTO DISTRICT ONE.

IT'S NEVER 2 0 2 0 0 7 3 0 DASH 0 0 6.

AND TO DISTRICT TWO, UH, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 1 0 3 2 5 DASH 0 7 3 INTO DISTRICT TWO, OR NUMBER 2 0 2 1 0 6 0 3 DASH 0 8 3, DISTRICT TWO, UH, OR DECEMBER 2 0 2 1 0 9 0 2 DASH 0 5 5.

AND IN DISTRICT ONE, UH, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 1 0 9 3 0 DASH 1 1 8 AND DISTRICT SIX AND ORDINANCE NUMBER TWOS.

YOU'RE A 2, 1, 1 TWOS OR NINE DASH 0 4 4.

AND TO DISTRICT TWO, WE HAVE A SECOND.

UH, SO IT WAS MOVED AND SECONDED BY, UH, I HEARD VICE CHAIR, GONZALEZ AND PRESSURE TO ADOPT THE EIGHT ORDINANCES LISTED.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REPEAT THOSE FOR THE RECORD? OKAY.

I THINK, UM, SO I'M SORRY.

IT HAS MOVED AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR.

IT'S ALL IS THAT WE ADOPT THESE EIGHT ORDINANCES TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE COMMISSIONER? NOT MY QUESTION.

WHY ARE WE PUTTING, UM, AMENDMENT ORDINANCE 2 0 1 9 1 0 0 3 DASH 0 6 8, WHICH IS SECOND ON THE LIST.

WHY ARE WE PUTTING THAT AS YOUR DISTRICT? NON-DISTRICT FOR IT'S THE PFLUGERVILLE TRANSPORTATION CENTER.

THAT'S THE PART THAT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE CONTINUOUS TO DISTRICT FOUR.

DO YOU MEAN DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT SEVEN.

IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE SINCE IT'S NOT VERY ZOOMED IN, BUT, UM, I BELIEVE WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THESE VARIANCES, UM, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS WITHIN DISTRICT ONE, ANDRE, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, YOU CAN PROBABLY CAN THINK OF A SCREEN, BUT IT'S, IT'S HARD TO THINK OF THE NUMBERS OVER OVER IT, BUT IT'S ON THIS LITTLE ISLAND FOR LIKE IT'S THAT COMES OUT OF DISTRICT ONE.

AND SO IT'S CLOSE TO SEVEN, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY TOUCHING SEVEN.

IT'S THE ONLY DISTRICT THAT'S CONTIGUOUS TO AS ONE, BECAUSE IT'S ON THIS LITTLE, IT'S LIKE A LITTLE BOOT.

OKAY.

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I THINK IT KIND OF HELPS ME BE MORE HELPFUL FOR ME WHEN I WAS TRYING TO DETERMINE ANY FURTHER DEBATE.

OKAY.

THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE H ORDINANCES YOU'RE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO COUNCIL DISTRICTS, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED THE AYES HAVE IT IN THE MOTIONS.

GREAT.

AND NOW WE NEED TO HANDLE THE DIS ANNEXATION.

UM, ANYONE LIKES, OKAY.

I MOVE, UH, ORDINANCE NUMBER 8, 9 0 6 2 9 DASH A B.

THIS ANNEXED FROM DISTRICT SIX IN A SECOND.

IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED BY MR. SCHNEIDER.

UM, LET ME START AGAIN.

IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER TO REMOVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 8 9 0 6 2 9 DASH OH, OUT OF DISTRICT SIX, I GUESS YOU SAID IT DIFFERENTLY THAN, UM, OH, YOU MENTIONED ARE BLINDED BECAUSE I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE TYPE, WE CAN SEE ANNEX SOMETHING.

WE CAN ONLY REMOVE IT FROM DISTRICT SIX.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, SO MAKE SURE THE RECORD SAYS THAT WE ARE MOVING THE ORDINANCE OUT OF DISTRICTS AND NOT XANAX AGAIN.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE LIKE US TO BE CLEAR ON THE ACTUAL MOTION? AND I THINK WE'RE EXECUTING ORDINANCE 8 9 0 6 2 9.

AND WE ARE REMOVING YOUR PAWN CHERICE SUBDIVISION FROM DISTRICT SIX.

OKAY.

DO WE WANT TO TRY AGAIN? OH, THAT'S NOT PERFECT PROTOCOL, BUT CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR SUBSTITUTE POTION? YES, I'VE MOVED THAT WE EXECUTE ORDINANCE NUMBER AT 8 9 0 6 2 9 DASH OH TWO.

REMOVE ON TERRORISTS SUBDIVISION FROM DISTRICT SIX ONE SECOND.

IF I QUESTION HER FAULT.

UM, SO LET ME, LET ME WORK THROUGH THIS ROBERT'S RULE.

SO IT HAS MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND BY SUBSTITUTING, UM, FOR THE PENDING MOTION, THE FOLLOWING, UM, TO RENEW CONTOURS SUBDIVISION FROM DISTRICT SIX, WITH ORDINANCE 8 9 0 6 2 9 DASH.

OH, IT'S THAT CLOSE.

WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTION NOW.

UM, SO THE QUESTION IS ON THE MAIN MOTION AS SUBSTITUTED THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SUBSTITUTE, SAY AYE, THOSE OPPOSED SAY, OKAY.

SO THE QUESTION IS NOW ON THE MAIN MOTION AS SUBSTITUTED, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT, UH, THAT YOUR PANTERA SUBDIVISION IS REMOVED FROM DISTRICT SIX, UH, WITH ORDINANCE 8 9 0 6 2 9 DASH ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY, THE AYES HAVE IT IN A MOTION AS ADOPTED.

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GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE HAD TO DO TONIGHT.

WHAT COMMISSIONER FOLK ON SECOND DID THE SUBSTITUTE? YES.

OKAY.

THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO BE THE DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF THE RICHARDS KORBEL AND THE GRANADA'S CONTRACT ASSUMPTIONS.

SO THESE CONTRACTS FOR THREE PAID STAFF ARE UP AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, DECEMBER 31ST, 2021.

UM, MATT HAS INFORMED ME THAT THE CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY HAVE AN UPPER LIMIT OF $66,000 BEFORE THEY GET KICKED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE AREN'T TO EXTEND THEIR CONTRACTS, THE PLAN WE WOULD LOVE FOR CHRISTINE TO STAY ON WITH US A LITTLE LONGER, UM, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

AND I THINK THAT SHE HAS AGREED TO JUNE THE MONTH OF JUNE.

UM, THE NEW CONTRACT STATES THAT RICHARDS AND KORBEL WILL STAY ON WITH US THROUGH THE END OF MARCH.

UM, THOUGH I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF CONTINUING THEIR SERVICES FROM TIME TO TIME AS NEEDED.

AND I'M WONDERING HOW WE CAN CALL ON THEM WHEN WE DO NEED THEM DOWN THE LINE.

UM, AND IS THERE A WAY TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT BEYOND THAT EVEN FOR THE DURATION OF OUR COMMITMENT, OUR TEN-YEAR COMMITMENT, UM, IS IT JUST A ROUTINE COMING TOGETHER, REGROUPING AN EXTENSION AND JUST GOING ON OUR WAY? UM, YEAH, SO REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

UM, CAROLINE, DO YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW THE CRAWFORD'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT AMENDMENT FOR BOTH, UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER AND THE LEGAL COUNCIL, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THE LEGAL COUNSEL, HOW WE WOULD CONTINUE THAT ON PAST NEXT YEAR, MY COMPUTER WAS DOING WEIRD THINGS.

UM, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T EXTEND IT BEYOND YOUR 10 YEARS FOR SURE.

UM, I DIDN'T QUITE, COULDN'T QUITE TELL IF THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

UM, THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE CHARTER THAT'S RELEVANT TO THIS AND IF YOU GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT, I WILL LOOK IT UP.

HOLD ON ONE SEC.

UM, SORRY.

OKAY, SORRY.

SORRY.

I GUESS LIKE TRYING TO THINK WHERE IT IS.

UM, OKAY.

SO IT SAYS LIKE PERMISSIONING SHALL HIRE COMMISSION STAFF, LEGAL COUNSEL, AND CONSULTANTS AS NEEDED PROVIDED.

HOWEVER, THE COMPENSATION OF SUCH PERSONS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE PERIOD IN WHICH THE COMMISSION IS ACTIVE.

UH, THE COMMISSION SHALL ESTABLISH CLEAR CRITERIA FOR THE HIRING AND REMOVAL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS COMMUNICATION PROTOCOLS OR CODE OF CONDUCT.

OKAY.

SO, SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO, SO IT LOOKS SO WHEN IT SAYS THAT IT'S, YOU CAN HAVE THE STAFF, UH, CONTRACTED FOR THE PR FOR THE PERIOD IN WHICH THE COMMISSION IS ACTIVE.

UH, I THINK THAT BASICALLY MEANS THROUGHOUT THE 10 YEAR TERM, BECAUSE YOU WILL BE MEETING PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THAT 10 YEAR TERM, AND THAT MAKES YOU ACTIVE.

UH, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S HOW I WOULD INTERPRET THAT.

THAT MEANS YOU'RE ACTIVE.

SO YOU CAN'T FIND LIKE THE NEXT COMMISSION OF COURSE, UH, TO, TO THESE PARTICULAR STAFF PEOPLE.

UH, BUT, BUT YOU CAN HAVE THEM DURING THE PERIOD THAT, THAT YOUR TERM IS ONGOING.

CAROLYN, I DO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AT THE END OF THIS SECTION, SECTION THREE, THIS IS K 10.

AH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE BACK THERE.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

UM, UNNECESSARY.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, ARE WE ACTIVE FOR 10 YEARS OR ARE WE ONLY ACTIVE WHEN WE'RE ACTIVE? OKAY.

UH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT SAYS THE COMMISSION SHALL REMAIN INACTIVE EXCEPT WHEN NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH HIS DUTIES UNDER THIS ORDINANCE AND THE CHARTER OF CITY AUSTIN.

SO I GUESS IN THAT SENSE THAT THAT TERM, UH, THAT DOES MAKE IT SOUND AS THOUGH ACTIVE MEANS ONLY WHEN YOU'RE EATING, YOU'RE ACTUALLY MEETING, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO MAKE THAT CONCLUSION BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, HIRE A STAFF PERSON OR A LEGAL COUNSEL FOR A MEETING.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO KNOW FOR SURE.

UM, HOW TO INTERPRET THAT PART OF THE CHARTER THEN, UH, AS, JUST AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE THAT YOU WOULD, LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ASK MR. RICHARDS OR MR. COLE GIRL TO JUST STEP IN FOR A FEW HOURS KIND OF THING, UH, WHEN THEY'RE NO LONGER UNDER CONTRACT, UM, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IS, LET ME, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK TONIGHT, FOR SURE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEIR EXISTING CONTRACTS, YOU CAN APPROVE WHATEVER THEIR EXISTING CONTRACTS ARE.

OR IF YOU'RE LOOKING

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AT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE IN THE FUTURE, THEN I CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF A AT A, AT ANOTHER MEETING THAT I WILL DO SOME RESEARCH AND GET BACK TO YOU ALL.

UH, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN EXTEND, UM, SORT OF BEYOND THIS YEAR, THAT'D BE GREAT.

AND, UH, WE, WE MAY VERY WELL MEET IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, SO YOU CAN FOLLOW BACK UP.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I'LL ACTUALLY, I'LL TRY TO GET YOU AN ANSWER TO THAT TOMORROW, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD KIND OF WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE.

SURE.

I GUESS PAST PRECEDENT, UM, IN SUMMER OF 2020, THE 2013 VERSION OF THE ICRC MET AND THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL WAS PRESENT AT THAT MEETING.

AND I REMEMBER SEEING THAT INVOICE COME THROUGH AND SO, UM, GOT PAID FOR THAT, THAT ONE MEETING AND THE PREPARATION FOR THAT MEETING AS WELL WITHOUT A CONTRACT.

UM, I MEAN THEY WOULD HAVE HAD A CONTRACT IN 2013.

YEAH.

AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT CONTRACT FOR MR. RICHARDS WAS IN PLACE FOR THOSE ENTIRE 10 YEARS LAST TIME.

THAT'S THAT'S AS FAR AS I KNOW, BUT, UH, SO I WOULD THINK THAT'S, THAT'S FINE, BUT I, AGAIN, I'LL HAVE TO I'LL I'LL DOUBLE CHECK.

SORRY, MATT.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

IT'S GOING TO SAY TO YOU THAT IF IT IS GOING TO BE LIKE OUT OF HAWK, NEED COUNSEL FOR A MEETING, THEN THAT WOULD PROBABLY FALL UNDER THE NEED TO KIND OF GET QUOTES, STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND WE CAN DO IT ON AN AD HOC BASIS IF WE CAN'T APPROVE A LONGTERM CONTRACT.

RIGHT.

GREAT.

WELL, I THINK THAT CLARIFIES THAT FOR NOW.

AND WE'LL FOLLOW BACK UP WITH CAROLINE NEXT TIME, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT WE HAVE THAT OPTION AVAILABLE TO US.

UM, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS EVENING IS TO APPROVE TWO, UH, INCOMING CONTRACTS, UH, AGAIN FOR CHRISTINE RENATA THROUGH JUNE OF 2022 AND FOR, UH, DAVID RICHARDS AND GEORGE THROUGH THE END OF MARCH OF 2022, UM, THEY BOTH WILL HAVE HIT A $50,000, UM, AMOUNT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

UM, MEANING THAT THEIR, UH, PAYMENT CANNOT EXCEED $16,000 FOR NEXT YEAR WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL.

UM, SO THE UPPER LIMIT THAT THE CITY HAS FOR CONTRACTS IS 66,000 WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.

IS THAT A PER YEAR OR CALENDAR YEAR OR YEAH, THAT'S FOR FISCAL YEAR, CORRECT? CAROLINE? YES.

SEPTEMBER.

OKAY.

SO THE FISCAL YEAR RESET.

YEAH.

OCTOBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY, WE HAVE MORE THAN $16,000 TO WORK WITH NEXT YEAR THEN.

UM, THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

I GUESS I WAS THINKING OF THE CONTRACT OR THE BUDGET ONLY IN TERMS OF, I GUESS, LAST FISCAL YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

YEAH.

IT WOULD KICK IN AGAIN, IF THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR AND MATT, CAN YOU PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THOSE CONTRACTS? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE BEING DRAFTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO CITY DEPARTMENT IS DRAFTING THOSE AMENDMENTS FOR BOTH THE LEGAL COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER.

UM, AND NO ONE'S, UM, WAS THAT, THAT WAS, I'LL SEND THAT TO YOU FOR YOUR SIGNATURE.

UH, WE NEED TO DO SOME QUICK MATH ON HOW MUCH WE ARE WORKING WITH HOW MUCH WE'VE ALREADY SPENT IN FISCAL YEAR 2022, OUR PAID STAFF.

YEAH.

COULD, COULD YOU ACTUALLY WORK ON THAT? LIKE NOW? I THINK, I THINK THE GOAL WAS THAT WE HAD THIS HANDLED NOW BECAUSE THEIR CONTRACTS ARE UP AT THE END OF THIS MONTH AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSION HAS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, THEIR EXTENSION AND HOW, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT, UNLESS WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT EXACT AMOUNT TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION.

AND AT THIS MOMENT, UM, LET'S SEE.

AND THE AMOUNTS, AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS GIVEN TO THE CRAWFORD TO DRAFT.

I'M SORRY, I GUESS I'M NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION.

IT'S NOT.

YEAH.

SO WE CAN APPROVE AN EXTENSION.

WE CAN APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE END DATE

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WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

SO IF WE STILL ARE UNDER THE AMOUNTS, LIKE LET'S SAY WE'VE HAD A CONTRACT FOR 10 K AND WHERE WE'D HAVE ONLY SPENT EIGHT K, WE CAN STILL EXTEND THE END DATE WITHOUT PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL MONEY.

SO BEING AS THERE'S TWO WEEKS LEFT AND THE TERM OF THAT CONTRACT, I WOULD MOVE TO GO AHEAD AND EXTEND IT WHILE WE DO THIS RESEARCH.

AND THEN IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE CAN COME BACK AND APPROVE.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

SURE.

THAT'S GREAT.

YEP.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES.

YES, THERE IT IS.

6 47.

LET'S JUST COME BACK AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO START BACK UP.

THANK YOU ALL.

HOPE YOU HAD A NICE LITTLE, UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE ARRIVED AT, UM, MORE REASONABLE IDEAS OF CONSOLE.

IS, WOULD YOU MIND MAYBE, UH, OR WAIT, LET ME SLOW DOWN.

UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE CONTRACTS FOR RICHARDSON, KORBEL AND PRISTINE.

UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST THAT YOU BOTH LEAVE THE ROOM WHILE HE DISCUSSED YOUR CONTRACTS.

YOU CAN DO STAY OUTSIDE AND WE CAN CLOSE THE DOOR.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IN WHEN WE'RE OKAY.

AND THEN I WILL HAVE VICE CHAIR GONZALEZ EXPLAIN OUR PROPOSED IDEA FOR EVERYBODY.

I MEAN, WE CAN TALK THROUGH THIS NO, I APPRECIATE STAFF.

UM, SO IS THAT AN ISSUE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS AND SALARIES? UM, WHAT WE, WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, DAVID RICHARDSON, OUR MAPPING CONSULTANT TOWARDS APPROVALS, AND SINCE THEY WERE ALREADY ON HOURLY RATES AND THEIR PREVIOUS CONTRACTS THAT COULD BE OFFERED AS AN EXTENSION OF THE CONTRACT THROUGH THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED DATE, WHICH WAS MARCH 31ST, 2022, AND AT THAT SAME HOURLY RATE OF THEIR CURRENT CONTRACT.

UM, SO I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL.

UM, BUT I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE MAKING A MOTION CHAIR.

I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION OF THE CONTRACT FOR OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, DAVID RICHARDS, AND OUR MAPPING CONSULTANT, GEORGE CORVEL, UM, WHO WAS SUBCONTRACTED THROUGH DAVID RICHARDS THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2022 AT THE SAME HOURLY RATES OF THEIR PREVIOUS CONTRACT.

UM, REALLY QUICK BEFORE WE MAKE THAT EMOTION.

LET ME JUST SAY, I KNOW THAT CHRISTINE GRANADA'S TYPICALLY IS RECORDING ALL OF OUR EMOTIONS AND TAKING THOSE NOTES.

SO MATT, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK.

SHE'S USUALLY RECORDING.

UM, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I HEARD BOTH, UH, MR. AND MR. CANNON A SECOND.

SO, UM, IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO EXTEND THE CONTRACTS FOR DAVID RICHARDSON, GEORGE POURABLE THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2022.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? AND AGAIN, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, UM, THAT WE MAY ONLY NEED THEM FOR AN HOUR BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH 31ST, BUT JUST THAT WE HAVE THAT CUSHION THERE, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO NEED THEM, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS LIKE A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST THAT WENT THROUGH AND LIKE, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT COULD COME UP IN THESE MONTHS.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, BUT JUST AS A SAFETY, BUT WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE REALLY NEEDING THEM THROUGH THAT TIME PERIOD.

I JUST WANTED, I'D LIKE TO STATE ALSO THAT MR. KORBEL AND MR. RICHARDS TO INVOICE HOURLY

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FOR HOURS WORKED.

SO THAT INFORMATION DOES COME THROUGH.

IT'S NOT LIKE WOULD BE PAID FOR EVERY HOUR THROUGH WEDNESDAY AT FIRST, BUT AN INVOICE.

AND IT IS AT A RATE OF 350 AN HOUR FOR EACH OF THEM.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? SO THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION TO EXTEND THE CONTRACTS FOR, UH, DAVE RICHARDS AND GEORGE HORMEL THROUGH 31ST, 2022, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, I PUT STANDING, YOU GUYS HAVE IT IN THE MOTION IS ADOPTED.

GREAT.

AND THEN I KNOW THAT THE, UM, SO FOR CHRISTINE GRANADA, THE CONVERSATION WAS MORE AROUND, SHE HAS BEEN SALARIED UP TO THIS POINT THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST.

NOW GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, WE'LL STILL NEED HER, BUT SHE WON'T BE WORKING FULL TIME AND SHE IS LOOKING FOR WORK RIGHT NOW.

SHE'S LOOKING FOR ANOTHER FULL-TIME POSITION.

UM, AND SO THE KIND OF WIN-WIN WAS THAT WE BROUGHT HER TO AN HOURLY RATE PAYING HER PER HOUR AT THE SAME RATE, SHE WOULD GAIN PAID SALARY, UM, WHICH COMES OUT TO $50 AN HOUR.

UM, NOW AGAIN, WE STILL NEED TO WORK OUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS OF THE FINANCES, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING A CONTRACT AT AN HOURLY RATE FOR HER.

SO THAT IS WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE VICE CHAIR, THE CHAIR.

CAN I MAKE A MOTION? I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE A NEW HOURLY RATE CONTRACTS OF $50 AN HOUR FOR OUR ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGERS AND OTHERS TO START ON JANUARY 1ST, 2022 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2022.

OKAY.

IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE AN HOURLY RATE OF $50 AN HOUR FOR A CONTRACT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER FOR NOT AS COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2022 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2022.

IT'S LIKE, I'M CONFUSED AS TO LIKE HOW WE CAN APPROVE A CONTRACT.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN, BUT MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE I'M USED TO DOING CONTACT MANAGEMENT.

W THE PLAN WAS TO HAVE THE CONTRACT HERE TONIGHT, UM, AS MATT CAN CONFIRM, HE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT.

WE'VE BEEN ACTUALLY IN DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS SINCE LAST MONTH.

UM, SO IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE PLAN WAS TO HAVE THE CONTRACTS HERE FOR US TO LOOK AT, BUT GIVEN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET AGAIN UNTIL NEXT YEAR AND HER CONTRACT ENDS DECEMBER 31ST, YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA FOR HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS THERE'S NO DISCONTINUATION OF, OF HER WORK WITH US.

I MEAN, CAN WE, LIKE, MAYBE IT'S CHANGING THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING A CONTRACT THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN.

LIKE MAYBE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, APPROVING THE RATE.

SURE.

UM, YEAH.

SO THE RATE OR A LIMIT, LIKE KIND OF THE TERMS, BUT NOT THE ACTUAL CONTRACTS, UM, YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, I'LL MAKE AN AMENDMENT.

I THINK, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO THE CONTRACT, WE CAN APPROVE THAT WE WILL APPROVE VIA EMAIL TO WRITE.

IF WE HAVE QUORUM ON AN EMAIL, WE CAN IMPROVE THE COUNTRY.

IT HAS TO BE IN PERSON LIKE THIS, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN IMPROVE OR MAKE DECISIONS AS, UM, WELL, I MEAN, WHY, WHY DO THEY HAPPEN? WHY DOES IT REQUIRE THEM AS DIFFERENT? I MEAN, TECHNICALLY IT'S A CONTRACT WITH US, IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT IS THE DANGER OF IT EXPIRING? WHAT HAPPENS TO IT DOES EXPIRE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY WE'RE SIGNING IF YOU, IN ANY WAY, RIGHT.

SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THAT MEANS THAT SHE WOULD NOT LIKE HER WORK WOULD END WITH US DECEMBER 31ST.

AND UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN TO APPROVE A CONTRACT, SHE WOULD NOT HAVE TO WORK WITH, LET ME CHANGE FROM SALARY TO HOURLY.

I THINK, I BELIEVE I WOULD ASK SHARON STILL ON, IT CHANGED THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT SO MUCH THAT YOU CAN'T JUST EXTEND IT.

LIKE IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONTRACT.

THAT MEANS THAT NO MATTER WHAT CAN EXTEND IT, IT'S GOING TO EXPIRE ANYWAY.

SO IF WE DON'T HAVE A NEW CONTRACT IN FRONT OF US, THEN WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE GOAL IS, AND I SEE YOUR HAND ON VICE-CHAIR TO TELL US, UM, TO APPROVE AN HOURLY RATE.

AND THEN WHEN THE CONTRACT COMES IN, UM, THE CONTRACT WILL HAVE THAT RATE THAT WE APPROVED.

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WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE CONTRACT AND THE SPELLMAN.

SO NO MATTER WHAT THE CURRENT CONTRACTS WE HAVE IS GOING TO EXPIRE ON 1231, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED A NEW CONTRACT.

SO YEAH, LIKE I JUST, I DON'T LIKE, WE'RE NOT TAKING THE CURRENT CONTRACT AND AMENDING IT.

WE'RE DOING A WHOLE NEW ONE.

RIGHT.

SO IF WE CAN'T DO AND YOU WANT IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF US, THEN I DON'T FEEL, YEAH.

THERE'S NO POINT IN APPROVING ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WON'T BE BINDING FOR US TO SIGN THE CONTRACT, EVEN IF IT'S READY.

AS FAR AS, UM, VICE CHAIR GONZALEZ HAS HAD AN EARLIER, NO, SO WE CAN'T APPROVE A CONTRACT, BUT WE CAN AUTHORIZE THE CREATION CONTRACT.

AND SO, I MEAN, IF, IF WE WANT TO DO A MOTION FORWARD, WE CAN ESTABLISH AS FOR US, UH, WHAT THE TERMS OF THE NEW EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH MS GRENADA'S WOULD BE.

AND SO WHEN THE CONTRACT IS CREATED, IT WILL HAVE TO ALIGN WITH WHAT'S GOING ACROSS.

IT DOESN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING, BUT SURE.

IF PEOPLE FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT, COMMISSIONER BLINK.

AND THEN THE QUESTION LANDS.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU'LL HAVE A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE, BUT ALL OF THIS IS IT.

I MEAN, I DON'T RECALL WHETHER WE APPROVED DIRECTLY LIKE THE EXACT CONTRACTS OR WE PROCEED OR NOT AS ORIGINALLY REPORTED TO HIRING THAT.

AND WE HAVE TO DETERMINE JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF NOT HAVING AN INTERRUPTION IN SERVICE, AND THERE'S GONNA BE DISRUPTION MATTER.

WE'LL HAVE THINGS LIKE THE 15TH.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING TO THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY AS JANUARY 1ST IS GOING TO BE HERE IN A MINUTES.

IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AN INTERRUPTION IN THE SUPPORT, BUT CAN WE, I MEAN, WITHIN THE PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH US AND SOME PEOPLE MAYBE NOT, BUT IF WE LAY OUT SOME OF THE TERMS THAT WE ALL AGREE TO HERE, IN TERMS OF HOURLY RATES, TERMS OF SERVICE, THE LENGTH OF SERVICE, YOU KNOW, MAXIMUM NUMBER OF HOURS, LET'S SAY IN A WEEK OR MAXIMUM NUMBER OF BILLING HOURS, WHATEVER WE DECIDE WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.

SO WE THEN DELEGATE THAT TO THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND THE, TO EXECUTE IT SO WE CAN KEEP THIS GOING WITHOUT HAVING TO MEET IN BETWEEN.

I PUSHED THAT TO THE MORE EXPERTISE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY WHAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

WE WANT THIS TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT US COMING TO THE MEETING ON DECEMBER 26TH.

RIGHT.

UM, CAN I ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMMISSIONER LANDS REAL QUICK? AND THEN COMMISSIONER, IS THERE A REASON WE CAN'T JUST EXTEND THE CURRENT CONTRACT FOR X NUMBER OF MONTHS? YES.

SO WE DID EXTEND THE CONTRACT FOR OUR LEGAL COUNSEL AND OUR MAPPING SPECIALISTS BECAUSE THEY'RE AT AN HOURLY RATE, $350.

UH, CHRISTINE KRONOS, HIS CONTRACT WAS AT A SALARY OF $50,000 FOR THE TIME THAT YOU SPEND LESS.

AND SO THAT IS UP DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A CONTRACT NEXT YEAR AT AN HOURLY RATE OF $50.

SO IT HAS TO BE A DIFFERENT CONTRACT, BUT IS THERE A REASON WE CANNOT EXTEND WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS FOR WHATEVER TIMEFRAME YOU NEED? SO WE COULD EXTEND IT LIKE A MONTH, MAYBE RIGHT NOW, MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THAT WE WILL NOT BE WORKING.

FULL-TIME THE WAY THAT WE HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY.

SO CHRISTINE WILL PROBABLY BE ASSISTING WITH THE WEBSITE PRIMARILY.

UM, HONESTLY, I'M NOT SURE MAYBE WE CAN BRAINSTORM OTHER WHAT SHE WOULD BE DOING BETWEEN NOW AND LARGE, BUT I ONLY FORESEE HER WORKING ON A WEBSITE, WHICH WILL NOT BE A FULL-TIME POSITION.

AND SO BASICALLY SHE'S GETTING PAID AT A RATE OF $10,000 A MONTH, RIGHT? SO THEN THAT IS A CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE.

IS, ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING HER ON AT THAT RATE THROUGH THE END OF MARCH, KNOWING THAT SHE'LL ONLY BE WORKING ON A WEBSITE PART-TIME CONTRACT, WE MIGHT HAVE TO REVISIT THE MATH, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WE CAN EXTEND IT FOR ONE MONTH OR TWO, JANUARY 15TH AND PRORATED.

SHE WILL WORK FOR THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS AT THE SALARY AMOUNT UNTIL WE CAN PAINT IT HOURLY.

SO IT SOUNDS GOOD IN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WEBSITE WORK TO DO, AND OTHER THINGS I FEEL LIKE THAT HAVE GIVEN UP THERE'S HOLIDAYS COMING, UM, I WOULD MOVE TO EXTEND IT TO JANUARY 15TH AND THEN WE CAN COME TOGETHER OR WHATEVER AND APPROPRIATE DATE IS I BELIEVE IT, JANUARY 15TH WOULD WORK.

UM,

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AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE.

SO THERE'LL BE A NEW MEETING SCHEDULE BEFORE.

EXACTLY.

YEAH, IT WILL BE JANUARY 19TH.

I THINK IT WAS SO THIS 20TH OR WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATELY.

SO LET'S, LET'S GET A MOTION REPEATED FOR ME TO SURE.

I MOVED TO ACCEPT CHRISTINE RENATA'S CONTRACT TO JANUARY 20TH.

IS THAT A WEEKLY AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANCE? OKAY.

IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO EXTEND CHRISTINE GRANADA'S CONTRACT THROUGH JANUARY 20TH, 2022.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER TODAY? ONE DAY I'M LIKE, SO LET ME, SO IS THAT A SUBSTITUTE? SO WE HAVE A SECOND QUESTION LANDS, SO IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND BY SUBSTITUTING FOR THE PENDING MOTION, THE FOLLOWING, UM, TO EXTEND PRISTINE GRANADA'S CONTRACT THROUGH JANUARY 31ST, 2022.

UM, SO THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE SAY, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAME.

THE QUESTION IS NOW ON THE MAIN MOTION AS SUBSTITUTED TO EXTEND CHRISTINE FOR ANALYSIS CONTRACT TO JANUARY 31ST, 2022, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY, THE AYES HAVE IT.

AND THE MOTION IS ADOPTED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, WE'LL HAVE MR. HIS BACK IN THE ROOM, SO WE WILL HAVE TO RETURN TO THIS AT OUR JANUARY 19TH.

IDEALLY WE'LL COME IN AND HAVE LIKE A CONTRACT HAVE CONTRACT.

YES.

IT'S DECEMBER.

YES.

THAT IS THE ATTENTION.

THAT IS THAT.

UM, AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, THE CONTRACTS I DO HAVE WITH ME JUST IN CASE ANYONE WAS CURIOUS, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT THEY'RE, SO THEY'RE SIGNED BY LIKE THE BRIDGE RICHARD'S CONTRACT WAS JUST SIGNED BY RICHARDS AND MYSELF, UM, BECAUSE, UH, GEORGE IS ACTUALLY SUBCONTRACTED THROUGH, UH, DAVE RICHARDS AND THEN, UM, CHRISTINE GRENADA'S, HIS CONTRACT WAS SIGNED BY CHRISTINA.

SO, UM, OUR DECISION IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO EXTEND YOUR CONTRACT THROUGH JANUARY 31ST AND THEN AT OUR JANUARY 19TH MEETING, WE'LL HOPEFULLY HAVE THE NEW CONTRACT, BUT THAT HOURLY RATE PREPARED AT THAT TIME.

AWESOME.

AND CHRISTINE, WOULD YOU MIND SHARING, UM, I KNOW THAT WE WERE TRYING TO SAY IT LIKE FIGURING OUT WHAT YOU WILL BE DOING THROUGH NEXT YEAR.

UM, WOULD YOU MIND SHARING WHAT YOU ENVISION? UM, I'M MOSTLY GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE WEBSITE, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO GO ON THE WEBSITE AND WRITING CONTENT, AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHECK EMAILS, COMPILING USE FLIPS.

I'M STILL FINDING A LOT OF THESE FLIPS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE PREVIOUSLY.

YOU GUYS GOT AROUND A LOT CREATING ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THE 20, 22 ELECTION IN NOVEMBER AND SENDING TO MEDIA AND JUST KEEPING UP WITH THOSE INVOICES AND THEN JUST COMPILING ALL THE ICRC DOCUMENTS IN ONE PLACE SO THAT WE ALL HAVE THEM.

AND THEN COMPILING AND DECIDING TO WROTE THAT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE ROADMAP? IS THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE WEBSITE? UH, YES.

UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE HAVE THE FINAL REPORT AND LAST COMMISSION HAD A ROADMAP TO THE FINAL REPORT, WHICH IS THE DETAILS OF THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS.

AND WE WANTED TO HAVE

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A, A COMPREHENSIVE LIST FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION.

UM, THIS SHOULD HAPPEN IN JANUARY, THE CHICAGO, MARCH, APRIL.

AND SO I'M, I'M HELPING COMPILE THAT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SENT LIKE THE COMMUNICATIONS GROUP AT THIS REALLY GOOD THAT SAID, YOU SHOULD START ADS AT THIS TIME, YOU SHOULD DO THIS.

AND I THINK THE PUBLIC FORUM GROUP SET THE STAMPING.

SO I'M JUST COMPILING ALL THAT INTO ONE DOC.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

UM, I THINK THAT THAT SATISFIES THAT WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS TO SEE IF THE DISCUSSION AND ADOPTION OF THE FINAL REPORT.

AND THIS ALSO INCLUDES, UM, CITY TRANSLATIONS TO OTHER LANGUAGES, WHICH IS A QUESTION FOR MATT AND THEN, UM, DISCUSSING SIGNATURES ON THE FINAL REPORT THAT COMMISSIONER BLANK WILL PROVIDE THE SURE.

SO THE FINAL REPORT IS LARGELY, IF NOT, ALMOST COMPLETELY RANDOM, I WOULD SAY IT'S REALLY AN ENTIRELY DRAFTED AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE ROUNDS OF EDITING.

AND I THANK EVERYBODY FOR RESPONDING TO THOSE EMAILS, OR EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T.

AND I STILL THANK YOU FOR BEING CONSIDERED RESPONDING.

UH, YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND WE'VE UPDATED ALL OF THE DISTRICT PROFILES.

WE'VE UPDATED ALL OF THE LANGUAGE AT THE FRONT END THE BACK.

AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY OF CREATING THESE MAPS AND SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES YOU FACE IN THE ACADEMIC INCLUDED THE APPENDIX, UH, SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT FROM COMMUNICATIONS WORKING GROUPS WITHOUT SOME BEST PRACTICES GOING FORWARD, AS WELL AS OUR, UH, VALUE STATEMENTS.

SO AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH READY, I THINK FOR FINAL REVIEW BY THE COMMISSION.

THE QUESTION REALLY, I THINK WE WERE DISCUSSING AMONGST OURSELVES AS SORT OF HOW WE WANT TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT.

I THINK THERE'S SORT OF THREE, I MEAN, I THINK OF THREE OPTIONS.

MAYBE I'LL THINK OF ANOTHER OPTION, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU SORT OF THREE OPTIONS AND SORTS OF POSSIBILITIES HERE.

YOU KNOW, ON THE ONE HAND WE'LL CALL THE HIGH TRUST OPTION.

WE COULD JUST, YOU GUYS COULD NOT THINK ABOUT IT AT ALL.

WE CAN WAIT, SORRY, AROUND OUR JANUARY 19TH MEETING, IN WHICH CASE WE WILL SEND YOU THE REPORT, YOU KNOW, WITH AT LEAST A WEEK OUT, BUT IN A, IN A PUBLIC WAY, YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT IT AND WE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES IN THAT MEETING THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE, OR THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.

THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE A LITTLE LABORIOUS, BUT I ALSO DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A TIME BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE EXTRA REVIEWED MOST OF THE STUFF THAT YOU SHOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST THOUGHTS ON.

SO THAT'S ONE POSSIBILITY.

ANOTHER POSSIBILITY ON THE OTHER END IS WE CAN DEAL WITH WHAT WE ALREADY DID IN SOME WAYS, WHICH I CAN GO AND BREAK THE REPORT DOWN INTO EACH DISTRICT TO GET IN AND REDISTRIBUTE EVERYTHING YOU'VE ALREADY WRITTEN.

AND GIVE YOU ANOTHER CHANCE TO LOOK AT YOUR BIO, GIVE YOU ANOTHER CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE DISTRICT PROFILE.

I WOULD PROBABLY, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO WAIT AND ALL REVIEWED.

I WOULD THINK THE INTRODUCTORY AND CLOSING MATERIALS, SO WE DON'T END UP SORT OF ACCIDENTALLY CREATING A FORUM AROUND THE DOCUMENTS, BUT THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY WE BASICALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, I COULD JUST GIVE THOSE SECTIONS TO THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT ANOTHER REVIEW.

SO IF OUR SCHEIDER WANTS TO LOOK AT IT AS DISTRICT ONE MORE TIME, WE CAN DO THAT AND I CAN DO THAT ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.

SO PART OF THIS IS JUST US.

WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT IT NEEDS SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT JANUARY 19TH MEETING, YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THIS IS THE REPORT FROM THIS COMMISSION, AND IT CANNOT BE A COMBINATION OF THESE THINGS.

SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S OPEN TO Y'ALL TO JUST KIND OF TELL US HOW YOU WANT TO FINISH THIS OFF.

AND I CAN ALSO JUST RECOMMEND SOMETHING TO GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

I'M NOT GOING TO CHARGE FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

I MEAN, I WENT BACK AND IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING I SAID WAS PUT IN, SO I DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT HONESTLY, IF ANYONE LOOKS AT IGNITE NINE AND THINKS THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING ADDED, LIKE I'M TOTALLY OPEN TO THAT.

LIKE, IF YOU COULD JUST SEND ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES, IF ANYONE LIKE, MAYBE I WANT YOU TO JUST REVIEW IT AS A TOTAL AND THEN TELL, YOU KNOW, THIS DISTRICT, WHATEVER PERSON, LIKE, I THINK THIS SHOULD BE ADDED.

AND THEN THE DISTRICT PERSON, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, DISTRICT NINE REVIEWS, AND ONE MORE TIME AND SENDS IT BACK TO YOU.

I MEAN, THAT'S HOW I WOULD DO IT THEN.

I DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO MY YES, I BASICALLY, ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL SENT ME, I INCORPORATED.

SO THERE'S NO, THERE WAS NO EDITING PROCESS.

I MEAN, WE MAY HAVE, WE MAY HAVE ADDED SOME LITTLE GIRL KNOWS A LOT ABOUT AUSTIN STUFF.

WE MAY HAVE ADDED SOMETHING HERE AND THERE, IF WE FELT LIKE IT WAS MISSING, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THAT, I MAY HAVE TAKEN SOME COMMENTS OUT.

I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE SORTS OF CHANGES THAT I MENTIONED TO MOST OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS SUBMITTED.

SO, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, I KIND OF TRIED TO DO THIS AS LIKE, I THINK THE, I MEAN, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, DO THIS THE EASIEST WAY POSSIBLE THIS POINT, WHICH IS IF YOU TRUST THAT WE'VE TAKEN YOUR INPUT AND THAT THIS IS,

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YOU KNOW, MOST LIKELY PRETTY GOOD REFLECTION, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, YOU KNOW, A WEEK OR SO OUT FROM SHARON, YOU HAVE ANY CHANGE TO THE CHANGES WE'RE LOOKING FOR AT THAT POINT ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, OH, THIS IS IN DISTRICT OR THIS IS, OR SOMEONE WOULD SAY, OH, THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T A DISTRICT TIME.

THOSE WOULD BE THE SORT OF CHANGES I WOULD THINK THAT WE COULD DO VERY QUICKLY IN COMMITTEE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT BIG.

WE DON'T GOT TO BONUS OR ALL OF THEM, WE SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, LET'S MAKE THE CHANGE, MAKE THE EDITS TO THE DOCUMENT THEN PROBABLY RIGHT THEN AND THERE DURING A RECESS AND THEN JUST BE DONE WITH THAT IF, IF THAT'S OKAY.

BUT I SAID, I'M NOT TRYING TO, I'M NOT TRYING TO REQUIRE TRUST THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS GOOD WORK.

ALTHOUGH I THINK IT IS FINE.

YEAH, I GUESS SO THAT'LL PROBABLY BE JANUARY 19TH.

UM, THE FINAL REPORT IS IN A FINAL DRAFT FORM, BUT IT STILL NEEDS TO KIND OF BE CLEANED UP AND EVERYTHING AND READY FOR PUBLISHING.

UM, SO, UH, I THINK THE, THE ORIGINAL GOAL WAS TO HAVE TONIGHT.

UM, THAT WAS AMBITIOUS.

WE DID OUR BEST.

UM, SO WE WILL HAVE A JANUARY 19.

UM, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH GETTING, YOU KNOW, ONE FINAL LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY DO THIS FOR REAL AND GET SIGNATURES ON IT AND WE JUST TREAT IT LIKE WE HAVE EVERY OTHER DOCUMENT TO SEND IT OUT.

IT'S PART OF THE MEETING.

IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES WE DISCUSS.

SURE.

AND I DID SEND IT OUT IN THE EMAIL THIS AFTERNOON, SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO EVERYBODY CAN TAKE A LOOK.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. CAMPBELL WAS REFERRING TO.

SHE WAS REVIEWING HER DISTRICT NINE MATERIAL AND SHE SAYS, EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD.

UM, SO, SO DEFINITELY DO THAT OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR EMAILS AND, UM, AND LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANY INACCURATE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR DISTRICT OR ANYTHING THAT IS MISSING.

AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT TOTALLY RIGHT.

UM, BUT, BUT OTHER THAN THE DISTRICT SPECIFIC INFORMATION, WERE YOU LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON ANY OTHER PARTS OF THE REPORT? WELL, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR IT.

I'M NOT DISCOURAGING IT EITHER.

I MEAN, ALL FEEDBACK AS WELL, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, I WOULDN'T THERE WOULDN'T THERE AND DISCOURAGE IT.

I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT WHAT'S IN THERE.

I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, IF ANYTHING, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A PROVOCATIVE DOCUMENT, THIS MENTAL LAYOUT, WHAT WE DID.

AND I THINK IT DOES THAT A PRETTY CLEAR LANGUAGE.

UH, BUT IF SOMEBODY READS, IT SAYS THERE'S SOMETHING CLEARLY MISSING HERE.

I THINK WE WANT TO KNOW THAT THERE'S NO, YEAH.

I WOULD JUST SAY LIKE, UH, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD THEN AND SAY, IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK SET THE DATE BY THIS DATE, AND THEN WE FIND IT.

SO, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS GREAT.

JANUARY 5TH.

YEAH.

THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE MEETING, WE'LL SAY WHATEVER THAT DATA YOU'RE CHECKING THE CALENDAR THAT IS, SO THAT'LL BE THE PORT TO THE 14TH, 14TH.

AND THE MAIN THINGS TO REMEMBER IS JUST FOR, SO I THINK WE DON'T DO ANYTHING.

JUST SEND YOUR COMMENTS TO EARL MY CHAIR, MY ACCENT, I CALL THEM EXPECTATIONS JANUARY 19TH, PRESENTED WITH A DOCUMENT THAT IS FOR YOU READY TO BE SIGNED.

PERFECT.

SO DEFINITELY PLAN TO ATTEND JANUARY 19 SO WE CAN GET YOUR SIGNATURE ON THAT.

UM, AND DO YOU HAVE, YOU'VE PROBABLY, EVERYONE'S SEEN IT AT THIS POINT, BUT THE LAST COMMISSION'S FINAL REPORT WHERE IT GETS, UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, WHERE THE FIRST PAGE IS KIND OF LIKE THIS COVER LETTER THAT HAS EVERYBODY'S SIGNATURES ON IT.

SO OURS WILL LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE EVERYBODY'S SIGNATURE IS ON THAT COVER LETTER OF FINAL REPORT.

SO THAT'S THE GOAL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION.

WELL, YEAH, WE'LL MAKE IT A LITTLE BIGGER THAN THAT.

I KNOW IT'S LIKE AN INITIAL, WE HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT THE CITY TRANSLATIONS.

UM, YOU SAID THAT CITY HAS SERVICES TO TRANSLATE DOCUMENTS AND, UM, MR. HARDEN HAD THE IDEA OF HAVING THIS FINAL REPORT ACCESSIBLE IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THE CITY DOES HAVE THOSE SERVICES.

IT'S JUST LET ME KNOW WHICH LANGUAGES AND I'LL, UH, I'LL WORK ON GETTING A TRANSLATED TO THOSE, THOSE LANGUAGES.

THERE'S NO CAP ON HOW MANY, LIKE ALL THE LINK.

YEAH.

I'LL

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LOOK INTO IT.

YEAH.

LET ME KNOW WHICH ONES YOU'D LIKE IT TO BE TRANSLATED INTO.

I'LL SAY LIKE, I'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

OKAY.

LET'S SPEED.

BACK TO CENTER.

IT'S LIKE, WELL, IS THIS JUST FOR ONLINE? LIKE, I'M ALL FOR ACCESSIBILITY, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD AN REQUESTS FOR TRANSLATIONS TO DATES.

SO I KNOW THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT SO I WOULD JUST SAY, LIKE, I THINK WHAT I'LL DO IS BEFORE WE GET TO