Jan 19, 2022 Austin Transit Partnership Board Meeting

SO ANYONE HAS REALLY CAUGHT YOU BY SURPRISE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GIDDY AND SUPER EXCITED FOR YOU.

AND, UM, CONGRATULATIONS, WE'RE SO HONORED THAT WE GET TO, TO SHARE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND LEARN FROM YOUR WISDOM AND, UM, I'M HONORED AND PROUD TO BE WORKING WITH YOU.

AND WE'RE SO, SO HAPPY AND GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU DO FOR ALL OF US EVERY DAY.

BIG THICK.

WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD.

SO JACKIE IS JACKIE, IS YOUR SOUND WORKING NOW? CAN YOU GAVE ME NOW? YES.

UM, WE DID NOT HAVE MUCH ENGAGEMENT TO REPORT ON THAT HAD BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TODAY IS A THREE MONTH LOOK AHEAD OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'VE GOT A LOT PLANNED.

UM, SO JUST STARTING AT THE TOP HERE WITH A PRESENTATION TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE THIS WEEK, AND THAT'S THE CITY'S MOBILITY COMMITTEE, WE'RE DOING A STAKEHOLDER MEETING WITH KEN PAK, WHICH IS THE CENTRAL AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS GROUP.

UM, NEXT WEEK WE'VE ALSO GOT A MEETING ON, UH, REGARDING THE DRAG WITH THE UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS, UH, FALL THE SAME NEXT WEEK, WHICH I BELIEVE ACTUALLY THAT'S GOING TO BE PUSHED TO FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY THE EIGHTH DUE TO CAMPUS CLOSURE.

I THINK THAT THE UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS ARE GOING TO WANT TO PUSH THAT.

UM, WE'VE GOT A CAC MEETING THIS MONTH ON THE 26TH.

WE'VE GOT, UM, A COMMUNITY VIRTUAL COMMUNITY UPDATE ON OUR PICKUP SERVICE, GIVING PEOPLE, UH, JUST THE, THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS ON WHAT'S COMING UP WITH PICKUP ON THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURE AND CONSTRUCTION COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE 2ND OF FEBRUARY.

WE DID NOT MEET THIS MONTH.

UM, AND THE SAME WITH P SEC, HE SAID, WE'LL BE MEETING ON THE THIRD, THE FOLLOWING EVENING.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE DOING A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY UPDATE ON METRO RAPID SERVICE ON FEBRUARY 7TH.

UH, WE'LL BE PRESENTING AGAIN TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE ON THE 10TH OF FEBRUARY AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD ON THE 23RD.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A METRO RAPID, UH, PLEASANT VALLEY STATION GROUNDBREAKING ON THE SECOND, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE 23RD OF FEBRUARY.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITING YESTERDAY.

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WE HAD A GROUNDBREAKING FOR BROADMOOR, WHICH WAS REALLY EXCITING AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY.

UM, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE REALLY GETTING STARTED AND SHOWING THE PUBLIC THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY COMING ON ONBOARD.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN IN FEBRUARY, OUR CAC MEETING IS ON THE 23RD AND WE'RE PLANNING IN JOINT TA TAX AND NCAC MEETING TO DO A MEET AND GREET WITH SENIOR MANAGEMENT TEAM SOMETIME NEXT MONTH.

UM, WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED THAT DAY YET, BUT WE'LL REPORT ON THAT AS SOON AS THAT IS CONFIRMED.

UM, ALSO CAC AND TAX ALIGNMENT TOWARDS BEING PLANNED, UH, TO SHOW ON THE GROUND WHAT THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME, UH, GROUND LEVEL FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

UM, THEN IN MARCH, WE'VE GOT AN EAC MEETING ON THE SECOND, THE SECOND MEETING ON THE THIRD MOBILITY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE 10TH.

OUR CAC MEETING IN MARCH IS ON THE 23RD AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING A BIG PUBLIC MEETING.

UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TOUCH BASE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UH, IT'S BEEN SINCE NOVEMBER, SINCE WE'VE HAD A BIG PUBLIC MEETING, UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING CALLED LET'S TALK PROJECT CONNECT OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, AND THEY SEEM TO BE GOING ALONG CERTAIN THEME LINES.

AND SO WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD DO A COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING US ABOUT NAMELY TRAFFIC AND HOW, UH, OUR PROGRAM WILL IMPACT TRAFFIC AND VICE VERSA AND ALSO SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENT.

UM, AND THEN, UH, CONNECTIVITY, EVERYTHING FROM BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY TO PARK AND RIDES AND, UM, OTHER PROJECTS THAT FEED INTO THE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM.

SO THAT SHOULD BE A REALLY INTERESTING MEETING.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO OF THEM JUST SO WE GIVE PEOPLE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.

AND, UM, WE ARE SHOOTING FOR THE LAST WEEK IN MARCH.

WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT FOR YOU ALL NEXT MONTH.

UM, AND THEN WE STILL HAVE TWO COMMUNITY DESIGN WORKSHOPS IN THE WORKS.

ONE IS FOR THE SOUTH CONGRESS TRANSIT CENTER, AND ONE IS FOR CRESTVIEW.

UM, THOSE WILL BE FINALIZED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

COUPLE OF UPDATES.

UM, TODAY YOU'LL BE TAKING ACTION ON THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH AND JUST TO REVIEW, WE'RE HAVING WELL, THERE'LL BE AN UPDATE TO, UH, THE FAR MEETING CADENCE TO MAKE IT QUARTERLY.

WE HAVE A CHANGE IN THE FAR STAFF LIAISON.

UM, ALL CHARTERS HAVE BEEN AMENDED TO ADD CAC DELEGATES THAT WILL SERVE ON EACH OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEES.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR OFFICERS ON ALL CHARTERS AND WE'LL HAVE THE ADDITION OF BOARD REPORTING LANGUAGE IN THESE CHARTERS.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING, YOU'RE GOING TO BE TAKING ACTION TODAY ON THE CAC BYLAWS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THE REASON WE ARE MAKING THIS ADOPTION, WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE BYLAWS AND THEY DO NEED TO BE ADOPTED BY THE BOARD.

THE JPA EMPHASIZES CLOSER COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE ATP NCAC AND REQUIRES THE ATP BOARD CAP, METRO BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE CAC BYLAWS.

SO THERE ARE SOME CHANGES TO THE CURRENT CSC BYLAWS THAT ARE NEEDED TO COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF THE JPA AND THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND CAPITAL METRO.

AND THESE INCLUDE MEMBERSHIP, UH, CHANGES TO REFLECT THE NUMBER OF ACTUAL CAC APPOINTMENTS THAT'S BEEN UPDATED.

THE WE'VE ADDED A BUSINESS MITIGATION AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PLANS FOR CAC REVIEW.

UM, WE'VE ALSO ADDED THE ATTACK DELEGATES, UH, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT CAC MEMBERS WILL BE APPOINTED TO THE TASKS AS DELEGATES AND SUPPORT ACKNOWLEDGING SUPPORT FROM THE ATP AND CITY STAFF LIAISONS.

SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES YOU'RE GOING TO BE NOTICING.

UM, AND YOU'LL BE TAKING ACTION ON THESE BYLAWS TODAY, AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. NIERENBERG.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ON ONLINE OR HERE ON THE DIAS BOARD MEMBER ELKINS? YES.

UH, THANK YOU, JACKIE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, JACKIE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU FOLKS ARE INCREDIBLY BUSY AS YOU ARE EVERY MONTH.

LOTS OF MEETINGS GOING ON.

UM, I, I'M JUST A LITTLE, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE HEARING OVER THE COURSE OF ALL THESE MEETINGS.

YOU TOUCHED UPON A LITTLE

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BIT, BUT WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THINGS THAT THEY'RE ASKING ABOUT? WHAT, WHAT ARE OTHER THEMES THAT ARE COMING OUT AND WHERE I'M GETTING AT IS WHEN WE SEE A LOT OF THEMES, A LOT OF QUESTIONS, A LOT OF CONCERNS, WHAT ANALYSIS HAVE WE DOING? AND WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK LOOP TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET BACK TO THEM AS TO WHY WHAT THEY WANT IS NOT FEASIBLE OR WE'RE CONSIDERING IT, THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GETTING AT.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TO TRY TO AIR DAYLIGHT, THESE ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WITH OUR WEB TEAM IN PARTICULAR, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE AND SEE VERY EASILY, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE BUBBLING TO THE TOP, THIS MEETING THAT WE'RE HAVING IN MARCH, IT'S ACTUALLY A WAY TO CLOSE THE FEEDBACK LOOP ON SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING OVER TIME.

THAT WAS PRIMARILY THE REASON WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THESE BREAKOUT DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'LL DO A DEEP DIVE ON THESE THREE BUCKETS, IF YOU WILL, OF, UM, INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT.

UM, AND SO THAT'S ONE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO OUR 30% DESIGN, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS, WHICH ARE LIKELY TO HAPPEN END OF MAY EARLY JUNE AT THIS POINT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW PEOPLE ALL OF THE, THE THEMES THAT CAME UP DURING THE 15% DESIGN OUTREACH PROCESS.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, CLOSE THE FEEDBACK LOOP BY TALKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT, THAT HAS THOSE PIECES OF FEEDBACK HAVE, HAVE INFORMED DECISION-MAKING THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN USED TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS TO BE THEY TECHNICAL, ENVIRONMENTAL, ET CETERA.

SO THOSE ARE THE WAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE FEEDBACK LOOP WITH THOSE MEETINGS.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, UM, THE WEB TEAM TO TRY TO DAYLIGHT SOME OF THOSE THEMES AND SHOW THAT CLOSING OF THE FEEDBACK LOOP ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL, SO THAT IT'S READILY AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

OBVIOUSLY, IF WE GET A HUNDRED, UM, QUESTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR OF THEM ARE, UM, UH, FREQUENT HITS, THOSE ARE THE ONES CLEARLY YOU WANT TO BE SPENDING.

IF IT'S A ONE-OFF QUESTION, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CLEARLY NOT A MAJOR CONCERN, BUT IF THERE'S A COMMON THEME COMING OUT LIKE, UM, BOSSES ON THE BLUE LINE BRIDGE OR WHATEVER, THAT, THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REPORTING BACK TO THE BOARD ON WHAT, HOW THE FEEDBACK IS GOING.

AND I THINK BROADLY TOO, IF THERE ARE CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY, WATER CONCERNS MORE BROAD THAN JUST A SPECIFIC LINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEIR EQUITY CONCERNS OR WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A FEEDBACK MECHANISM.

SO IF THERE'S A COMMON CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THE BOARD'S HEARING ABOUT THAT, UM, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE OR TWO OUT THERE THAT ARRIVED, YOU KNOW, SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HEARING THOUGHTS.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, JACKIE.

BOARD MEMBER, UM, PEERS.

UM, I JUST WANT TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT THE MEET AND GREET WITH THE SENIOR TEAM.

I APPRECIATE THAT IT HUMANIZES THE WORK AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

SO I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REALLY LIVE THAT AND SAY, AS OFTEN AS WE COULD DO THAT KIND OF THING, IT HUMANIZES THE PROJECT.

AND SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING'S HAPPENING BEHIND A CURTAIN.

THESE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE, REAL PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT WITH THE TAX AND THE CAC.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

NOW MOVING ON TO OUR MONTHLY PROGRAM UPDATE FROM OUR ATP CHIEF PROGRAM, OFFICER DAVE COUCH.

UM, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT OR FACE-TO-FACE HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY THE SPIKE IN THE PANDEMIC.

SO I KNOW EVERY TIME WE'VE TRIED TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT JUST GETS EITHER POSTPONED OR IT'S AFFECTED, YOU KNOW, BY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL LIVING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

AND, UM, BUT YES, I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR POINTING THEM OUT, DR.

BURNETT.

AND WHEN WE SET THE DATES FOR THE TOWN HALL OF THIS, UM, GOVERNANCE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO PUBLISH THOSE DATES ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT THE PEOPLE ARE INFORMED.

SO, YOU KNOW, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THOSE DATES IN FEBRUARY.

AND, UM, THANK YOU, MS. NIERENBERG.

UH,

[2.2. Technical Program Update ]

WELCOME MR. COLLINS.

WELCOME.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

UH, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PARK.

UH, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH

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WHAT WE'VE GOT AND THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE OVER THE PAST MONTH.

THE PROGRAM IS MOVING RATHER QUICKLY RIGHT NOW, UH, AS WE GO AHEAD AND HIT THE MILESTONES THAT WE NEED TO HIT TO BE SUCCESSFUL DURING THIS IMPORTANT YEAR.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE BASICALLY CONTINUE TO FOCUS, UH, MAINLY THE FIELD AND THE ENGINEERING ACTIVITIES, UH, FOR BOTH THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE LINE.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH PEDESTRIAN DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UH, ATMOSPHERE ON FOURTH STREET.

UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AS AN AREA, UH, THAT CAN BE REALLY A MEETING IN A CENTER PLACE.

THAT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THE 30% DESIGN, UH, ON, ON 71 CROSSING, UH, UH, WITH RIVERSIDE.

UH, THERE'S A BRIDGE THERE THAT WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH, UH, TO LOOK AT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND STRUCTURAL ADEQUACY TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS ONGOING.

WE CONTINUE TO WORK AT SOMETHING THAT IS NEW TO THE CITY, UH, AND THAT'S THE TUNNEL AND WHAT WILL BE NECESSARY TO BE DONE THERE IN TERMS OF FIRE LIFE SAFETY, UH, WITH ACCESS POINTS, WITH DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'LL SET UP IN THE FUTURE, UH, FOR SPECIFIC DRILLS THAT WILL BE THERE, UH, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMERGENCY RESPONDERS TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND DEAL WITH ANY OF THE UNDERGROUND PROBLEMS THAT ARISE DURING OPERATION AND OTHER AIRY, A LARGE POINT IS THAT WE RECEIVED THE 30% DESIGN, UH, FOR THE ORANGE LINE.

UH, WE HAD A REVIEW MEETING, UH, AND THAT REVIEW MEETING, UH, WAS ATTENDED AND PARTICIPATED IN BLUEBEAM, UH, BY AN EXCESS OF 200 INDIVIDUALS WILL BE MISS A SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND UTILIZE AS A MARKUP TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THE COMMENTS FINISHED UP AND, AND CLOSED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.

UH, AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CATEGORIZE THEM AND PROVIDE THE RESPONSE TO EACH ONE, UH, AS WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, ON THE NEPA FRONT, UH, MAKING A GREAT DEAL OF PROGRESS.

THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 42 INDIVIDUAL REPORTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.

UH, AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT 39 OF THE 42 DONE.

SO WE'RE QUICKLY MOVING TOWARDS THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEIS AND FINALIZING THE DIFFERENT CHAPTERS THAT ARE THERE.

WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS ON CHAPTERS ONE, TWO AND THREE.

SO WE'LL BE COMPILING ALL OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SUBMISSION OF THE EIGHT V A D E I S NEXT SLIDE.

UH, AND METRO RAPID, UH, AS JACKIE SAID, WE HAD THE GROUNDBREAKING, UH, THAT WAS THERE FOR EXTRA LINE.

UH, LAST MONTH, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE GROUNDBREAKING IN FEBRUARY OR BASICALLY PLEASANT VALLEY.

WE CONTINUE TO WORK FORWARD WITH EACH ONE OF THE SETS OF PLANS, UH, ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS FOR EACH ONE OF THE STOPS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE UNIQUE PHYSICAL FEATURES AT EACH ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS, COORDINATING WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WITH EVERYTHING THAT MAY BE NECESSARY FOR AUSTIN ELECTRIC AND AUSTIN WATER WITH RESPECT TO ANY UTILITIES THAT COULD BE THERE.

UH, AND OBVIOUSLY AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION.

THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY ONE OF THE MAJOR PORTIONS OF WHAT WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE WORKING FORWARD WITH SELECTION, UH, AND AT EXPO AND GOODNIGHT RANCH, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE CHARGING LOCATIONS THERE FOR THE ELECTRIC BUSES.

UH, THE GOAL LINE IN SOUTH LAMAR HAS STARTED TO MOVE ALONG.

WE'VE GOT THE DESIGN CONSULTANTS ELECTED, UH, AND KICKOFF MEETING LATER THIS MONTH.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE SAME KIND OF COORDINATION WITH THE CITY AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN PERMITS AND THEN ULTIMATELY INTO CONSTRUCTION NEXT FIVE, UH, NOT TO BE LEFT OUT THE RED LINE.

UH, THE MCCULLOUGH STATION IS IN PROGRESS WITH, UH, FINALIZATION OF THE DESIGN, UH, AND ALSO WAITING FOR THE RECEIPT OF PROPOSALS.

UH, THE LAKE LAND THAT LEANDER, UH, SEC AMTRAK, UH, IS IN PROGRESS.

AND AS JACKIE SAID, A FEW MINUTES AGO, UH, THERE WAS THE GROUNDBREAKING, UH, YESTERDAY, UH, FOR THE BROADMORE STATION.

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THANKS.

FINE.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. COUCH BOARD, ANY QUESTIONS? AND IF YOU ARE ONLINE, DO YOU MIND SPEAKING UP IF SOMETIMES, IF WE DON'T SEE YOUR HAND RAISED, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS YOU.

SO, UM, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. MR. COUCH.

AND FINALLY,

[2.3. Administrative Program Update ]

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE THIS MONTH FROM JULIANA HARRIS.

ATP'S DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.

WELCOME IS HARRIS CAN, SORRY.

I'M SORRY, JULIANA.

JUST ONE SEC.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND BOARD MEMBERS SINCE WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T DONE A HYBRID MEETING IN A WHILE.

IF THEY COULD JUST LEAVE THEIR CAMERAS ON WHEN, WHEN WE DO HAVE, UM, THE PRESENTATION DOWN, THAT'S ALL.

ESPECIALLY ALSO FOR A VOTE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAMERA'S ON TO COMPLY WITH, UH, WITH THE LAW, MY APOLOGIES, OR, UH, UM, CASEY, I THOUGHT THAT ONLY APPLIED WHEN WE WERE TAKING VOTES.

NO, I DIDN'T THINK YOU WANTED TO SEE ME EAT NINE DEBT.

I WANT TO SEE YOU AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BOARD MEMBERS, FRIENDLY REMINDER.

TECHNICALLY AS LONG AS IT'S ON DURING THE BOATS.

BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW FOLKS ARE COMING IN A LITTLE BIT LATER, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE Y'ALL PRESENT.

THAT'S ALL.

AND JU JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, YOU MAY SEE JEN STRATTON ON THE BOTTOM OF MY SCREEN.

I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO FIX THAT, BUT, BUT I'M UTILIZING MY, MY, MY WIFE'S MICROSOFT ACCOUNT FROM HOME.

SO I, I GOT NOTHING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT, BUT IT IS ME.

I AM NOT JEN STRATTON, AMERICAN STRATTON BOARD MEMBER.

THANK YOU, MS. HARRIS.

WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CLARK THIS AFTERNOON.

EXPLAIN TO THESE, THANK YOU THIS AFTERNOON.

I'M GOING TO BE GIVING A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THE INTERNAL AUDITOR POSITION.

WE ORIGINALLY POSTED IT ON SEPTEMBER THE 10TH OF LAST YEAR AND THAT SEARCH YIELDED CANDIDATES.

AND OUT OF THAT SELECTION, WE CAME UP WITH ONE CANDIDATE CONSIDERED FOR INTERVIEW, AND AS WE WANT IT TO HAVE A LARGER POOL ON NOVEMBER, THE FIRST WE OUTSOURCED AND PARTNERED WITH KNA PARTNERS FOR A TARGETED RECRUITMENT PROCESS, KNA SEARCH THEN PROVIDED US WITH FOUR ADDITIONAL CANDIDATES.

FIVE CANDIDATES WERE REVIEWED BY MADAM CHAIR OR NUMBER ELKINS.

AND OUT OF THAT FIVE, WE SETTLED AND MANAGED THROUGH THE PROCESS TO HAVE THREE CANDIDATES SCHEDULED FOR INTERVIEWS.

INTERVIEWS WERE SCHEDULED AND CONDUCTED BY MADAM CHAIR OR MEMBER ELKINS AND EX-OFFICIO BOARD MEMBER, GINA FENIAN DACA.

AND THEN ON THE SECOND ROUND OF INTERVIEWS, WE INCLUDED BOARD MEMBER STRATTON.

THE FIRST ROUND OF INTERVIEWS WERE COMPLETED BY JANUARY THE SEVENTH OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THE SECOND ROUND OF INTERVIEWS WERE CONDUCTED IN HELD ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 11TH.

WE NOW HAVE FINAL CANDIDATES THAT ARE UP FOR RE FOR REVIEW FOR SELECTION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AS OF TODAY'S BOARD MEETING THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. HARRIS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK MS. HARRIS.

I KNOW YOU MADE IT LOOK EASY, SO IT WAS A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING.

JUST TO MAKE SURE I GET YOUR INPUT.

TAKE WELCOME.

UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE, THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IN DETAIL THE, THE QUESTION.

SO IF, UM, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, I'LL LIKE TO MOVE ON TO OUR ACTION ITEMS. UM, BUT ALSO I DID, I DID RECEIVE YOUR EMAIL BOARD MEMBER STRATA.

AND AT WHAT TIME DO YOU HAVE TO STEP OFF BECAUSE WE CAN SHUFFLE THE AGENDA TO MOVE THINGS AHEAD TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR REQUEST.

DO YOU HAVE A, UH, A TIME THAT YOU NEED TO LEAVE IT'S AT, UM, UH, FOUR O'CLOCK, FOUR O'CLOCK YEAH.

BETWEEN BETWEEN THREE 30 AND FOUR O'CLOCK TO MAKE MY NEXT ENGAGEMENT.

SO I LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE SHIFT THE ORDER AND WE JUST, WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW

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I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAT WE HAVE HERE, YOUR FEEDBACK, WOULD THAT WORK, WOULD YOU PREFER THAT IF WE JUST SHIFT THE ORDER AND WE PUT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST, BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN DO THAT IN THE, I MEAN, I LIKE TO DO THAT AND ACCOMMODATE YOUR REQUEST.

WOULD THAT WORK? OKAY? YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO I'D LIKE TO THEN RECESS AND THEN WE'LL POSTPONE OUR ACTION ITEMS. AND THIS WOULD ALSO GIVE A CHANCE TO MAYOR TAYLOR TO JOIN US FOR THE VOTES.

SO WOULD THAT WORK, CASEY? I'M SORRY.

YEAH, WE CAN MOVE IT.

I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT MAYOR ADLER HASN'T YET JOINED US, BUT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FOOT, WE STILL HAVE THE SAME ISSUE CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL BOARD.

SO IF YOU WANT, WE CAN WAIT FOR HIM TO, WE CAN MOVE DIANE UP.

[4.1. FY2021 Q4 Financial Report ]

THAT WORKS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CALL MY DATE, YOUR REQUEST.

SO IF WE CAN DO THAT, THEN LET'S DO IT.

UM, DIANA SILER, LET'S DO OUR FINANCE REPORT THEN.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT I NEED TO SPEAK UNNATURALLY LOUDLY.

SO IF I COME ACROSS AS YELLING, THAT'S WHY, UM, YOU SOUND GREAT ON THIS END.

PERFECT.

THAT SHOWS OUR MAJOR CONTRACTS AND HOW WELL WE'RE PERFORMING ON ALL OF OUR MAJOR CONTRACTS.

WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON.

ALL.

UM, I HAVE, MY PRESENTATION WILL BE EXTREMELY BRIEF.

I THINK I HAVE TWO SLIDES.

UH, WHAT I'M PRESENTING IN INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET THE FOURTH QUARTER, UM, CHLOE SAYING TO TALK LOUDER.

SO WHAT I HAVE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE PRELIMINARY FOURTH QUARTER YEAR END STATEMENT.

AND I SAY, IT'S PRELIMINARY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE RSM OUR AUDITOR REVIEWING OUR FINANCIALS AND THEY'LL COME BACK TO, UM, THE, UH, THE FAR IN MARCH WITH A FINAL ON THEIR, UM, ON THE AUDIT STATEMENTS.

AND YOU'LL ALSO BE RECEIVING A COPY OF THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IN, IN THE MARCH, APRIL TIMEFRAME.

SO BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE DOING VERY WELL.

WE HAD ANTICIPATED, WE WOULD HAVE FUNDING BALANCE OF $112 MILLION.

UM, WE ACTUALLY ENDED THE YEAR WITH $170 MILLION.

THOSE, UH, THAT FUNDING IS BEING RESERVED FOR, UH, THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT INVESTMENTS, THAT $23 MILLION THAT WAS UNSPENT BY THE CITY IN 21.

WE MOVED THAT OVER WHEN YOU ALREADY APPROPRIATED IT FOR 22, UM, YOU ALSO APPROPRIATED 135 MILLION OF THAT FOR PROJECT EXPENSES IN .

AND THE ADDITIONAL DIFFERENCE OF $13 MILLION IS, IS RESERVED FOR FUTURE PROJECT COMMITMENTS AS WAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FISCAL, THE FINANCIAL PLAN.

UM, LET'S SEE, WILL YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE? JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS.

UM, THE REVENUE CAME IN $6 MILLION OVER BUDGET.

THIS WAS BECAUSE THE CITY HAD ANTICIPATED THAT COVID WOULD CAUSE AN ECONOMIC, SOME ECONOMIC STRESS THAT WOULD RESULT IN HIGHER DELINQUENCIES THAN, UM, THAN IS CUSTOMARY, BUT THAT DID NOT MATERIALIZE.

SO WE DID GET THE BENEFIT OF HIGHER REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES.

WE CAME IN $53 MILLION ON 53% UNDER BUDGET, UM, AND ALSO $27 MILLION UNDER THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAD COME BACK AND ESTIMATED NOW THE MOST SIGNIFICANT VARIANCE FOR THAT IS, IS AS I SAID, THE CITY DIDN'T SPEND THE $23 MILLION THAT WE HAD SET ASIDE.

HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'VE SET THAT ASIDE FOR FY 22.

UM, ALSO NOTE THAT THE $5 MILLION THAT WE HAD SET ASIDE FOR CAPITAL CONTINGENCY WASN'T USED AND THEN SPENDING FOR THE METRO AND METRO AND RAPID LINES, THE RED LINES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, CIRCULATOR PROB UH, PROJECTS DIDN'T OCCUR AS QUICKLY AS WE EXPECTED IT TO, BUT AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM DAVE, THEY ARE ON TRACK.

UM, NOW, SO ANY QUESTIONS IT'S ODD TO BE YELLING THROUGH THIS? JUST A SAILOR MEMBER ELKINS.

YEAH, NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, UH, DIANE, VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE THIS KIND OF QUARTERLY REPORTING AND SEE THAT WE'RE DOING WELL.

I JUST WANT IT TO BE NOTED THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD, WHAT I'VE REQUESTED TO SEE IS, UM, AN A DENTON TO THIS REPORT

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SO I WOULD DEFINE MAJOR CONTRACTS AS ANY CONTRACT OVER 200,000.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CONTRACT AMOUNT, ANY APPROVED CHANGE ORDERS AND THE PERCENTAGE OF WORK COMPLETE.

SO WE ARE A CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AGENCY.

I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ANY MAJOR CONTRACTS THAT EITHER ATP ISSUES OR THAT WE ARE REIMBURSING CAP METRO FOR.

SO IT WOULD BE THE HDR AGENT TO BE A CON CONTRACTS.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE PAYMENTS MADE TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AS WELL AS ANY PAYMENTS MADE TO CAP METRO, JUST SO THAT WE CAN TRACK ALL OF THOSE IN ONE THING TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING AGAINST ALL OF THOSE AGREEMENTS.

TARA, I'LL JUST JUMP IT.

SO I'M PAUL ELKINS.

THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT.

MAYBE STAFF WILL WORK WITH YOU OFFLINE TO MAKE SURE WE FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT.

UM, THERE WAS A MEMO SENT, UH, TO YOU EARLIER, I GUESS IT WAS ON JANUARY 24TH, THE WHOLE BOARD WHERE IT'S TALKS ABOUT THE, UH, DAVE DAVE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER AND IT'S RELATED TO ALL THE LARGE CONTRACTS.

AND SO WE'LL REVIEW THAT WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE WHAT INFORMATION IS NOT ACTUALLY BEING CAPTURED IN THAT REPORT, BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR INTENT WITH THIS MEMO IS TO CAPTURE YOUR COMMENTS.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU OFFLINE TO MAKE SURE WE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS NOT BEING CAPTURED.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRACKING EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU, MEMBER ELKINS.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MS. SILER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

SO WE MOVED OVER TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS AGAIN, WAITING FOR, UH, MAYOR ADLER.

SO OUR NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

I KNOW THE MAYOR REALLY WANTED TO KIND OF DIVE INTO THIS PIECE OF THE, OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REPORT.

SO, UH, WITH THAT SURE.

I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

LET'S MOVE ON TO AN AD THAT REALLY WON'T TAKE ANY TIME.

AND I KNOW HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT 45 MINUTES.

I, SO WE'RE REALLY ONLY FIVE MINUTES

[3.1. Approval of minutes from the December 2021 Board Meeting ]

INTO IT.

SO LET'S GO INTO OUR ACTION ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST ITEM TODAY IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 15TH OF THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP BOARD MEETING.

IF EVERYONE HAS HAD TIME TO REVIEW THOSE MEETING MINUTES, I WOULD REQUEST A MOTION.

AND A SECOND ON ACTION ITEM.

NUMBER ONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

BURNETT.

THANK YOU A SECOND TO PROVE BOARD MEMBER ELKINS.

EVERYONE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

I'LL DO A ROLL CALL JUST TO MAKE SURE SINCE WE'RE HYBRID MEMBER ELKINS, UM, MEMBER STRATTON, DR.

BURNETT, AND MAY RATHER IS ABSENT AND I AM AN AYE.

ADOPTION

[3.2. Adoption of CAC Bylaws ]

OF THE CAC BYLAWS.

THIS IS ACTION ITEM NUMBER TWO, AND I'LL HAVE WITH US.

UM, BRANDON CARR, THE IS DEPUTY COUNSEL PRESENTED THE CAC BYLAWS TO OUR BOARD LAST MONTH.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CAC HAS CONCURRED WITH THE BYLAWS WE PROPOSED TO ADOPT TODAY.

SO UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARR, I WILL NOT REQUEST A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ACTION ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARR? GREAT.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, THEN I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A MOTION TO APPROVE ACTION.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, MEMBER ELKINS MOVES TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.

TO ACTION ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE ADOPTION OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHARTER AMENDMENTS, AS IT WAS DESCRIBED EARLIER IN OUR PRESENTATION.

BURNETT SECONDS.

I'LL DO A ROLL CALL FOR A VOTE.

UH, FOUR MEMBERS STRATTON, DR.

BURNETT MEMBER ELKINS.

AND MY VOTE IS ALSO I WITH THE MAYOR UPSET, MOVING

[3.3. Adoption of Technical Advisory Committee Charter Amendments ]

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S A, IT'S A FORMALITY FOR OUR LAST ALLOWING US

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TO HAVE OUR DELEGATES PARTICIPATE FORMALLY INTO OUR TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUPS FROM THE CAC.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ACTION ITEM NUMBER THREE, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MADAM CHAIR.

BURNETT, DO I HAVE A SECOND MEMBER ELKINS? THANK YOU EVERYONE.

IN FAVOR, I WILL DO A ROLL CALL BOARD MEMBER STRATTON, DR.

BURNETT.

I REMEMBER ELKINS AND MY VOTE IS ALSO I MOTION APPROVED.

MOVING ON TO ACTION ITEM, NUMBER FOUR, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AWARDING, A COMMERCIAL RISK AND PROJECT DELIVERY SERVICES CONTRACT TO ERNST AND YOUNG INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISOR.

[3.4. Approval of resolution awarding a Commercial, Risk and Project Delivery Services Contract to Ernst & Young Infrastructure Advisors, LLC for a four-year term in an amount not to exceed $17,000,000. ]

SO LC FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $17 MILLION.

AND I HAVE A TONY, I THINK I BELIEVE THERE'S.

UH, COMMENT HERE.

A CHAIR BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ACTION ITEM, NUMBER FOUR, I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD DUE TO A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST, I'LL BE STANDING FROM THE VOTE ON ACTION ITEM, NUMBER FOUR, AS WELL AS ANY RELATED DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU, MY BRAILLE CANS.

UM, AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I UNDERSTAND ATPS DIRECTOR OF PROCUREMENT, MS. RODRICK IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER AS WELL.

SO, UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RODERICK, I, WHEN I REQUEST A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ACTION ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SO FIRST, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RODRICK? NO QUESTIONS.

GREAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.

I'LL MOVE BOARD MEMBERS.

STRATTON MOVES DR.

BURNETT SECONDS.

I'LL DO A ROLL CALL MEMBER ELKINS.

OH NO, YOU'RE NOT.

THANK YOU FOR NO ORDER.

HE JUST RECUSED HIMSELF.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO, UH, BOARD MEMBERS STRATTON, I THANK YOU, DR.

BURNETT AND MY VOTE IS ALSO AYE.

THE MOTION IS APPROVED AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO, UM, ERNST AND YOUNG.

THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO THIS SOLICITATION AND WE'RE GRATEFUL AND HAPPY TO BE WORKING WITH YOU.

I'D LIKE TO, UM, GO ON TO THE OSTEON TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL NOW ENTER EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

AND, UM, SO THAT COMPLETES OUR ACTION ITEMS FOR TODAY.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO THEN GO ON TO CALL FOR US TO LET'S DO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST TO DISCUSS THE, UM, OUR INTERNAL AUDITOR.

SO WOULD THAT WORK AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN JUST KEEP THIS, UM, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND HAVE YOUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

SO WITH THAT,

[6. Executive Sessions ]

FIRST FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO THE REVIEW OF THE FINAL CANDIDATES FOR THE INTERNAL AUDITOR POSITION.

AND THEN FOR PERSONNEL RELATED TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS FISCAL YEAR 2022 PERFORMANCE CRITERIA.

AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WE COMPLETE THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY LET ME STATE THE TIME IS 2 45, 2 46, AND THEN WE'LL STAY AT THE TIME WHEN WE COME, PLEASE.

SO, UM, I'M READY.

SO, CHLOE, WHENEVER YOU ARE, TIME IS 4 33.

ON TO OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT FROM PRECEDENT, RANDY CLARK.

SO NOW WE'RE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THE TIME IS 4 33 AND, UM, WE'RE MOVING

[5.1. Program Decision Drivers Conversation ]

UM, I THINK I ASSUME CHLOE THEN ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE VIRTUAL ARE LIVE AND EVERYONE'S GOOD.

THEY'RE INPUTS THAT ULTIMATELY DRIVE DECISIONS.

UM, WELL TODAY WE WANT TO TAKE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REPORT AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT PROGRAM DECISION-MAKING THAT WE'LL NEED TO DO AS A, NOT ONLY JUST ATP, BUT THE ENTIRE PARTNERSHIP OF, OF THE PROJECT CONNECT TEAM.

UM, LATER THIS YEAR, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT OF JUST, UM, WE'VE BEEN HIGHLIGHTING SOME TOPICS AND DAYLIGHTING SOME TOPICS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF KIND OF FINALIZE AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS OR THAT

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AND SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS GET MADE THROUGH A TECHNICAL PROCESS.

SOME ARE FINANCIAL IN NATURE, OTHERS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING, SOME ARE COMMUNITY-DRIVEN ET CETERA.

SO I GUESS I WOULD START OFF WITH A COMMENT, WHICH IS IN MANY WAYS, UM, 20, 22 WILL BE WHAT I WOULD REFER TO AS THE SECOND, MOST IMPORTANT YEAR OF THE ENTIRE PROGRAM.

THE FIRST BEING WHEN THE COMMUNITY VOTED TO AUTHORIZE PROJECT CONNECT GOING FORWARD.

I THINK OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT THAT VOTE, THERE IS NO YEAR 1, 2, 3, AND FIVE AND, AND ON AND ON.

BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT PIVOTAL MOMENT THIS YEAR WILL REALLY BE THE YEAR THAT THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL DECISIONS ARE MADE FOR THE ROLLOUT OF THE PROGRAM.

AND AS WE ALL KNOW, UM, COVID HAS CAUSED SIGNIFICANT ISSUES ON SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT, UH, SIGNIFICANT INFLATION AUSTIN'S REAL ESTATE MARKET IS NOT ONLY, UM, NOT SLOWING DOWN.

IT IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY SUPERHEATED AND ALL OF THESE THINGS, PLUS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, PLUS SOME TECHNICAL ENGINEERING PROCESS LEAD TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO ULTIMATELY ROLL OUT THE PROGRAM.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, THAT I CAME TO MORE ENLIGHTENMENT OVER THE HOLIDAY PERIOD, AND I THINK DAVE COUCH AND I TALKED THROUGH THIS WAS IN MANY WAYS WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT HASN'T GONE THROUGH THESE MEGA PROGRAMS BEFORE, AND I'M NOT SURE WE'VE DONE A GOOD ENOUGH JOB.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBLE FOR ME OBVIOUSLY, IS TO EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, HOW TRANSIT MEGA PROGRAMS KIND OF USUALLY ROLL OUT.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ORANGE LINE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT KNOWING DIFFERENTLY WOULD THINK THAT THE ORANGE LINE IS ONE PROJECT AND THEREFORE IT'S ONE CONTRACT AND IT ALL STARTS IN ONE DAY AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THE CASE AT ALL.

UH, THE ORANGE LINE COULD BE FOUR CONTRACTS.

IT COULD BE 12, 14 CONTRACTS.

UM, AND IT ALSO MAY START IN SEGMENTS.

AND SO IN THE TRANSIT WORLD, WHAT WE USE AS A TERM IS MOS.

SO MINIMAL OPERATING SEGMENT, NOT TO GET TO TRENDS OR WONKY.

UM, BUT THAT REALLY KIND OF DEFINES HOW YOU ROLL OUT PIECES OF, OF LINES.

UM, MOST OF OUR PEERS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE BUILDING EXTENSIONS.

SO THEY'RE KIND OF A DEFINED PROJECT HANGING OFF THE END OF A LINE.

UH, NOT MANY PLACES ARE BUILDING MULTIPLE LINES AT ONCE AND WHEN THEY DO, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY TURN THEM ALL ON THAT LINE ON, AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE YOU GET THE VEHICLE COMPONENT, YOU HAVE THE SYSTEMS COMPONENT, YOU HAVE THE CIVIL INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT, YOU HAVE THE OPERATIONAL READINESS STAFFING AND TRAINING AND THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS.

AND SO IN MANY WAYS WE MAY HAVE A PART OF A LINE THAT IS ACTUALLY DONE A PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY SEES, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT READY FOR PASSENGER OR IN OUR WORLD.

WE CALL REVENUE SERVICE, BUT FOR BETTER WORD, LET'S CALL PASSENGER SERVICE FOR UP TO EIGHT MONTHS TO A YEAR.

AT THE TIME WE GET ALL THE COMMISSIONING AND TESTING AND TRAINING DONE, AND THE PEOPLE WILL SEE VEHICLES RUNNING ON THOSE ALIGNMENTS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN SERVICE.

AND SO I THINK DAVE AND I KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND WE SAID, WE REALLY GOT TO GET SOME RESET ABOUT HOW THAT ULTIMATELY DRIVES TO SOME SEGMENT PHASING PLAN.

AND SO WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL IS TO GO THROUGH, UH, WE SHOWED A GRAPHIC AND IF YOU COULD BRING UP THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME, CHLOE, I GRAPHIC THAT WE DAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN DECEMBER, BUT THE STAFF HAS SPENT A LOT OF WORK OVER THE LAST MONTH, WORKING THROUGH THIS TO TRY TO MAKE IT REALLY A BETTER LANGUAGE, CLEANER LANGUAGE TO HELP DRIVE WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE REFERRING TO THIS AS THE FUNNEL, OBVIOUSLY ANECDOTALLY, INTERNALLY AS THE FUNNEL, BUT THE CONCEPT HERE IS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, AND THESE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EXHAUSTIVE, RIGHT? AND IF YOU COULD DO ANOTHER COLUMN DOWN THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THERE REALLY SHOULD BE OUR THREE VALUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SINCE THE START OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH ARE EQUITY, SUSTAINABILITY, AND INNOVATION.

SO THAT'S THE VALUE SIDE.

SO OUTSIDE OF THE VALUES, WE HAVE INPUTS AND THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE TUNNEL METHODOLOGY AND TUNNEL LENGTH, UH, OUR STATION DESIGN, AND MOSTLY THERE, WE MEAN PROBABLY THE UNDERGROUND STATION DESIGN, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL AND HOW THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER.

UH, MULTIMODAL COORDINATION IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE BIKES AND PEDS.

UH, BUT YOU COULD ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THE COMPLETE STREETS AND BUS SERVICE AND, UH, UH, OTHER, UH, TRANSIT MODALITIES, UTILITY COORDINATION IS BEYOND SIGNIFICANT FOR A PROGRAM OF THIS NATURE, UH, GOING REALLY WELL.

AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AT THE CITY, UH, BUT STILL A VERY BIG, BIG TOPIC.

WE HAVE ECONOMIC AND RESOURCE INPUTS.

THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE SUPPLY CHAIN INFLATION THAT I MENTIONED, UH, REAL ESTATE AND RIGHT AWAY, HEAVILY DRIVEN BY THE COMPLETE STREETS AND THE MULTIMODAL CONVERSATION THERE, OBVIOUSLY.

AND MOST OF THESE THINGS ARE INTERLINKED FEDERAL FUNDING.

WE HAVE NOW HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH A FEDERAL STRATEGY AND HOW THOSE THINGS

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INTERPLAY WORKFORCE AND DBE AVAILABILITY.

THAT'S A, HOW DO WE, AS A, AS A GROUP DEVELOP THOSE RESOURCES, BUT ALSO WE DO SOUNDINGS TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WORKFORCE IS EVEN AVAILABLE, RIGHT? WE COULD, UH, WE COULD HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AND ALL THE DESIRE TO ROCK AND ROLL, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE WORKFORCE AND THE SPECIFIC, VERY SPECIFIC, UH, SKILLED TRADES RELATED TO RAIL DEVELOPMENT, UH, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AT ONE TIME.

WE ALSO HAVE CAPITAL, UH, ONM OUR, UH, RETURN ON INVESTMENT ANALYSIS.

SO HOW DO WE WANT TO SPEND SOME CAPITAL MONEY THAT COULD ACTUALLY RESULT IN BETTER USE LONG-TERM, UH, O AND M AND HOW THOSE INTERPLAY? WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY INPUTS.

THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE, UH, OUR NORMAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, BUT ALSO OUR COMMITTEES AND ADVISORY BOARDS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UH, SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE CORRIDORS, LIKE SMALL BUSINESSES OR OTHER BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE IMPACTED BY CONSTRUCTION.

THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT THING.

SO EVEN IF WE HAD ALL THE WORKFORCE IN THE WORLD, EVEN IF WE HAD ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AT THE RIGHT TIME, WE CAN'T RIP UP THE ENTIRE CITY AT ONCE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY IMPACT ALL THE COMMUNITY AT THE SAME TIME.

AND THEN THERE'S THE MOBILITY BENEFITS OF THINKING THING, THINGS LIKE RIDERSHIP AND WHO NEEDS THAT SERVICE THE MOST AT THE START AND WHO GETS THE MOST VALUE OUT OF THAT.

AND HOW DOES THAT ACTUALLY FEED THE OVERALL SYSTEM TO GET THE MOST PEOPLE USING TRANSIT, WHICH THEN GOES BACK TO EQUITY, SUSTAINABILITY AND THOSE SIDES.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF INPUTS AND THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON ALL THOSE, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DO A LOT MORE WORK AND WE NEED TO GET ENGAGED WITH THE BOARD ON THOSE TOPICS.

ULTIMATELY, WE NEED CAP METRO BOARD, AND WE NEED THE CITY COUNCIL INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE TOPICS AS WELL.

AND ONE OF THE THREE PARTNERS MAY BE NIT LATIN, NATURALLY THE LEAD ON ONE OF THESE TOPICS.

AND ANOTHER ONE MAY BE A SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE STREETS.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE CITY IS ULTIMATELY THE LEAD ON THAT.

IT'S THE CITIES RIGHT AWAY AND THEY HAVE THEIR OVERALL MOBILITY GOALS.

ATP IS PROBABLY THE NEXT MOST IMPORTANT.

AND AGAIN, IMPORTANT TO ME IN MY WORD OR A PLAYER IN THAT, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S THE FACILITATOR OF THE DESIGN PROCESS AND CAP METRO, OBVIOUSLY FROM A VALUE POINT OF VIEW, REALLY BELIEVES IN MULTIMODAL COM COMPLETE STREETS AND WALKING PET, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE PRIMARY MISSION OF THE ORGANIZATION.

WHEREAS ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW WE MAY DO WORKFORCE IS PROBABLY MORE ON THE CAP METRO AS THE LEAD, BECAUSE IT ULTIMATELY HAS TO GROW THE WORKFORCE TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM ATP NEXT CITY, THIRD.

SO AGAIN, THEY ALL PLAYERS PLAY IN THIS, BUT THEY MAY HAVE DIFFERENT KIND OF LEVELS OF INTEREST OR NEED IN EACH ONE.

WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN WORK THROUGH ALL THOSE TOPICS BECAUSE STAFF IS GOING TO WORK THROUGH THEM, BUT WE WANT TO ENGAGE THE BOARDS AND OTHER, UH, OTHER POLICYMAKERS THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO WE CAN GET TO THE SUMMER AND THE SUMMER WE, THESE ARE THE FOLLOWING THINGS THAT, UH, WE CALL PRODUCTS THAT WILL BE BASICALLY READY IN THE SUMMER, OR CERTAINLY AT A POINT TO, TO DIGEST IN THE SUMMER.

AND I WOULD TIE LIKE THAT THE FIRST TWO ARE REALLY PROJECT PRODUCTS, 30% LIGHT RAIL DESIGN AND COST ESTIMATES.

THEY ARE PROJECT, UH, PRODUCTS, ONE FOR ORANGE LINE, ONE FOR BLUE LINE DRAFT, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.

AND THERE ARE PUBLIC HEARING.

AGAIN, ONE IS BLUE LINE.

ONE IS ORANGE LINE.

THE OTHER COMPONENTS IN, IN THE PR OR THE OTHER BULLETS IN THE PRODUCTS LIST ARE PROGRAMMATIC.

SO OUR INTEGRATED FINANCIAL MODEL UPDATE, AND THAT HAS TO INCLUDE IT, GOTTA BE FED THROUGH WITH A FEDERAL STRATEGY, FEDERAL AND FINANCING STRATEGY.

AND SO TO BUILD THAT MODEL BACK OUT WITH AN UPDATE AND HOW THAT MAY ALL WORK A SECOND PIECE IS THE INITIAL RISK AND, UH, RISK AND CONTRACTING PROCUREMENT METHODOLOGY ANALYSIS, WHICH THE BOARD, UM, APPROVED TODAY.

AND SO THE IDEA IS BASICALLY HOW DO YOU POTENTIALLY CUT UP CONTRACTS AND DO THE RISK ANALYSIS OF THAT IN RELATION TO FUNDING CASHFLOW IN RELATION TO THE FEDERAL PROCESS, UH, IN RELATION TO HOW MUCH WORKFORCE, HOW MUCH DBE MARKET SOUNDINGS, HOW MUCH DISRUPTION CAN WE HANDLE AS A CITY? HOW DOES IT INTEGRATE WITH THINGS LIKE AND OTHER THINGS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF FLOW, KIND OF IN SOME WAYS TO A SEGMENT PHASING PLAN AND KIND OF THE OPTIONS OF, AGAIN, WE CAN'T HAVE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T BUILD EVERY SINGLE THING AT ONCE.

AND NOT, AGAIN, I'M NOT GETTING BACK TO THE SEQUENCE PLAN.

I'M TALKING ABOUT PURELY WHERE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS AT ONCE AND WHERE TESTING HAPPENS AT ONCE.

AND WE'RE STARTUP HAPPENS AT ONCE.

THOSE THINGS KIND OF FLOW IN OUR, IN OUR THOUGHT PROCESSES TO THE FALL AND IN THE FALL, WE REALLY NEED STAFF BRINGING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION ON A 30% LIGHT RAIL DESIGN AND HOW THAT SEGMENT PHASING PLAN WOULD WORK.

AND AGAIN, THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, VERY HYPOTHETICAL.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE FOR LUSHER PURPOSES.

YOU KNOW, THE AIRPORT THROUGH SOUTH WATERFRONT MAKES, COULD BE AN OPERATION WHILE THE REST OF THE BLUE LINE IS ACTUALLY IN FINISHING AND TESTING JUST AS A PURE VISUAL

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EXAMPLE.

UH, AND SO WE WANT TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

OBVIOUSLY, THOSE ARE THE JOINT DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO GET AGREEMENT ON.

AND THEN, THEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FROM THE ATP BOARD, BUT THE CAP METRO BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THOSE 30% DESIGNS, NOT NECESSARILY WE'RE GETTING LIKE THE, THE THREE PARTIES INTO THE DESIGN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THE, THE GOVERNING BOARDS TO GET INTO ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE SAS ROLE WHERE THE COMMUNITY WITH A BUNCH OF ADVISORY GROUPS, BUT THE IDEA OF OWNING THAT DECISION AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP TO SAY, YES, THESE ARE THE TRADE-OFFS THAT WE'VE MADE THE BIG TRADE-OFFS OF DESIGN AND HOW THEY IMPACT COSTS AND ROLLOUT.

AND NOW WE HAVE A SEGMENT FLIGHT, A PHASING PLAN, WHICH THEN LEADS TO HOW DO YOU INITIATE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE EARLY ACTION ITEMS, WHICH BASICALLY THIS BOARD WILL BE THE ONE INITIATING THOSE PIECES.

SO THAT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, IS POST 30% POST RECORD OF DECISION.

WHAT ARE WE DOING? ARE WE DOING SOME DESIGN BUILD? ARE WE DOING DESIGN BID BUILD? WHAT ARE WE DOING? HOW ARE WE PACKAGING THOSE? HOW DO WE MOVE THOSE OUT VERY IMPORTANT EARLY ONE? HOW DO WE MOVE OUR GEC PROCESS FORWARD FOR ALL THE SUPPORT WORK THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO NECESSARILY WITH THE ORANGE AND BLUE AS THE PRIMARY THINGS LIKE EARLY UTILITIES, UH, SOME OF OUR FACILITY PLANNING AND OTHER PIECES, OUR VEHICLES AND SYSTEMS, WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD ON INITIATING A VEHICLE PROCUREMENT THIS YEAR.

AT SOME POINT, EVEN IF IT'S LATE IN THE YEAR TO ACTUALLY KEEP ON THE SCHEDULE TO MOVE IT BECAUSE THE VEHICLES ARE SO SUCH A LONG LEAD ITEM AND HOW THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER.

SO WE CAN'T REALLY MAKE THOSE PROCUREMENT PROCESSES DECISIONS UNTIL WE ALL GET THE COLLECTIVE.

ARE WE GOOD WITH THE DESIGN? AND WE GO TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO ROLL THIS OUT.

AND WE CAN'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS UNTIL WE GET ALL THESE PRODUCTS AND REPORTS, AND WE CAN'T GET ALL THE PRODUCTS AND REPORTS UNTIL WE WORK THROUGH ALL THE IMPLANTS.

AND SO I WOULD JUST REVERSED THE FUNNEL FOR LACK OF BETTER.

UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS MAYBE WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, CHLOE, I JUST WALKED THROUGH A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE WITHIN, UH, REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL KIND OF TURN THIS IN CONVERSATION.

I DON'T WANT TO REALLY GO THROUGH THIS SLIDE.

IT'S VERY DETAILED, BUT IT'S IN HERE FOR YOU, YOU ALL IN THE COMMUNITY KIND OF LOOK AT, BUT THEY ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT AN INPUT IS, HOW IT MAY, IT MAY IT BE AN IMPACT AND HOW IT REALLY IMPACTS DECISION MAKING.

RIGHT? AND SO A GOOD EXAMPLE IS LRT STATION DESIGN.

IT IMPACTS THE COSTS AND IMPACTS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

IT IMPACTS FUTURE-PROOFING OF THE OVERALL SYSTEM, BUT IT ALSO, THEREFORE THE DECISION MAKING IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THE SUBWAY CONCOURSE SPECIFICALLY FOR STREET RAINY, SORRY, TRINITY STREET, PLACES LIKE THAT.

AND I JUST USE THAT AGAIN, AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW EVERYTHING WE DO IS LIKE AN ONION AND IT ALL KIND OF TOUCHES TOGETHER IN SOME WAY.

UM, SO THE NEXT LINE, UM, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, STAFF, WE PICKED OUT 10 AND THIS IS GAME THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE EXHAUSTIVE, BUT I STAFF DOES FEEL THAT THESE ARE, AND THAT'S WHY THE WORD SIGNIFICANT IS IN THERE.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE NUMEROUS DESIGN TOPICS THAT WILL EXIST THAT EXISTS NOW, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO EXIST OVER THE PROGRAM.

THE IDEA IS NOT TO ACTUALLY SOLVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND ESPECIALLY SOLVE THEM ON, UH, ON THE DIETS WHERE WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.

AND IDEALLY, CULTURALLY IS WE WANT TO TRY TO WORK TOWARDS WHAT ARE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DECISION POINTS, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY DRIVE THE OVERALL PROGRAM BECAUSE THESE, THESE INVOLVED THE MOST DISRUPTION, THE MOST MONEY AND THEREFORE HOW THE SYSTEM WILL BE LONG-TERM.

AND SO WHILE A TWO OR $3 MILLION DECISION MATE, TO BE IMPORTANT TO PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY APART, THESE ARE ULTIMATELY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DECISIONS.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE YOU FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME, ONCE A MONTH AND, AND THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE SCHEDULE.

SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DRIVE TO WHAT ARE THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL PIECES THAT WE GOT TO GET ALL OF US AS THREE ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE COMMUNITY BOUGHT IN SUPPORT OF SO WE CAN MOVE THAT PROCESS FORWARD.

AND SO THESE 10 AND OTHERS I'LL READ THEM OFF.

I THINK IT'S 10.

UM, AND IT IS 10.

I'LL READ THEM OFF.

AND I WANT TO JUST, I REALLY HIGHLIGHT THE IDEA IS NOT TO SOLVE THESE TODAY IN ANY WAY, CAUSE WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO, THEY ARE JUST BIG TOPICS THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH.

AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF WORD CHOICES THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT IN THE NEPA PROCESS.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE OFFICIAL THINGS CALLED OPTIONS AND AS LIKE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE PLEASANT VALLEY MULTIMODAL STATION, WE ARE CARRYING THROUGH THE NEPA PROCESS RIGHT NOW, TWO OPTIONS.

AND THE BOARD HAS SEEN THOSE OPTION A AND OPTION B UH, EASILY LABELED.

AND, AND WE WANT TO GET A LOT OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY, UH, BOTH CAP METRO ATP AND CITY STAFF TO WORK THROUGH THE PROS AND CONS OF ALL THOSE LOTS OF COMMUNITY STUFF.

THERE'S BEEN COMMUNITY WORKSHOP.

THAT'S AN OPTION IN THE NEPA PROCESS ON THE SIDE, THERE ARE TOPICS, AND I GUESS I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE B GUADALUPE TUNNEL LENGTH NORTH OR SOUTH OF MLK CITY STAFF

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IS REALLY, UH, ENCOURAGING TO HAVE THAT TUNNEL PORTAL UP NORTH OF MLK BECAUSE OF THE OVERALL POSITIVE IMPACTS THAT WOULD HAVE ON VEHICULAR TRAFFIC NETWORK CAB.

METRO, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S THE LONGER THE TUNNEL, THE BETTER THE SYSTEM WILL PERFORM.

IT'S SAFER.

IT'S MORE RELIABLE LONG-TERM HOWEVER, THAT DECISION WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD TO A COST, A COST IMPACT TRADE OFF.

SO OUTSIDE OF THE NEPA PROCESS, DAVE AND HIS TEAM ARE BUILDING OFF NEPA ALTERNATIVES AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT THE DESIGN WOULD BE AND THE COSTS.

SO WHEN WE GET TO THE SUMMER, WE ARE NOT SLOWING DOWN THE RECORD OF DECISION PROCESS.

WE'RE MOVING THAT THROUGH, BUT WE'LL HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES.

SO WHEN WE GET INTO SOME COST CONSTRAINT, DECISION-MAKING THIS SUMMER, YOU ALL IN THIS BOARD, PLUS THE OTHER BOARDS, WE'LL SEE A COUPLE, A LITTLE BIT OF OPTIONALITY TO TALK ABOUT THE TRADE OFFS OF IS THAT MONEY WE'RE DOING THAT VERSUS SOMETHING ELSE.

AND AGAIN, THAT, AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS THEN DO A SUPPLEMENTAL TO NEPA.

AFTER WE GET THE RECORD OF DECISION WITH A COUPLE OF THESE AREAS OF CHANGE, THE IDEA OF AN A RECORD DECISION AND 30% DESIGN IS NOT TO SAY WE'RE LOCKED AND NOTHING CAN CHANGE NEPA.

THE ULTIMATE IMPORTANT PART OF NEPA IS TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT THE FA BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ULTIMATELY OWNS THE NEPA DOCUMENT.

WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF INVOLVED IN THE PREPARATION IN A LOT OF WAYS.

IT'S ULTIMATELY FTAS DOCUMENT.

AND THAT IS US ALL SAYING, THESE ARE THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO AS A COMMUNITY TO, TO MOVE THIS PROGRAM FORWARD.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN OFFICIALLY NEPA OPTIONS AND SOME OF THESE SIDE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE ARE DOING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BALL POLICYMAKERS.

SO YOU WILL ALL HAVE SOME TRADE-OFF OPTIONALITY KIND OF, UM, DISCUSSION LATER THIS SUMMER.

SO CELL CONGRESS TUNNEL LENGTH, VERY CRUCIAL DECISION POINT FOR THIS, FOR THIS PROGRAM.

AND WE HAVE THINGS LIKE UTILITY CONFLICTS.

WE HAVE THINGS LIKE FEMA FLOOD, PLAIN.

WE HAVE SOME STATE REG REGULATIONS RELATED TO A CAPITOL VIEW CORRIDOR.

THERE'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CONNECT INTO THAT TUNNEL, UM, PIECE, UH, IN A LOT OF WAYS, YOU KNOW, I THINK STAFF WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ACROSS ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS TO JUST HAVE A FOCUS ON TUNNELING.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A SINGLE VERSUS DUAL BORE ANALYSIS RIGHT NOW THAT HAS TO GET FLUSHED OUT A LITTLE BIT THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO BOTH OF THOSE, EVERYTHING FROM DEPTH AND ACCESSIBILITY TO HOW THE TUNNEL IS BUILT AND COSTS AND ET CETERA.

UM, BUT I JUST USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, THE GWADAR TUNNEL WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE, OR JUST MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT, THE TRINITY SPUR TUNNEL NORTH OF FOURTH STREET.

THAT IS AGAIN, WE WANT TO BUILD OUT THAT OPTIONALITY, IT'S IT? COULD WE RUN THE ORANGE AND BLUE LAWN WITHOUT IT? YES.

DOES IT PROVIDE A LOT MORE RESILIENCE IN THE SYSTEM TO HAVE THIS SPUR? YES.

WILL IT ACTUALLY BE NEEDED FOR THE GOLD LINE? AND COULD WE START THE GOLD LINE A LITTLE OR A PIECE OF THE GOAL LINE EARLIER IF WE DO THAT? YES.

SO THAT'S THAT TRADE OFF THING THAT WE WANT TO SHOW THE, YOU KNOW, THE, IF YOU WILL, THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES OR THE OPPORTUNITIES AND COSTS RELATED TO THAT SOME WAY CONCOURSE AND FOR ST.

PETER MULLEN HAS BEEN LEADING THAT EFFORT AND HAS TALKED TO THIS BOARD ABOUT THIS AND A LOT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS.

UM, WE, WE COULD HAVE GRAND VISIONS FOR FOURTH STREET AND HAVE A REALLY INTEGRATED UNDERGROUND SUBWAY COG CONCOURSE THAT CONNECTS TO TONS OF BUILDINGS AND MULTIPLE RAIL STATIONS, BUT THAT COMES WITH A LOT OF MONEY AND, AND, AND OTHER CHALLENGES RELATED TO OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, BUT IT ALSO CREATES, UH, A LONG-TERM VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF WE NEED EVERYONE TO KIND OF GET ALIGNED WITH ONE WAY OR THE OTHER PLEASANT VALLEY WE'VE TALKED THROUGH THAT CROSS VIEW IS A REALLY, REALLY COMPLICATED PART OF THIS, UH, THIS, UH, PROGRAM.

SO CRESTVIEW FROM A NEPA POINT OF VIEW, WE WERE MOVING THE ORANGE LINE FORWARD AS AN ELEVATED LINE BECAUSE CAP METRO RUNS RED LINE AND FREIGHT SERVICE AT GRADE ON THE SIDE.

AND WHEN I SAY ON THE SIDE OF, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN A NEFARIOUS WAY, LIKE LEGITIMATELY, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF NO OTHER BETTER WAY, BUT LIKE IN A PARALLEL ACTION IS A BETTER PROBABLY TERM AND A PARALLEL ACTION CAP.

METRO IS DOING DESIGN WORK ON WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GRADE SEPARATE THE FREIGHT AND RED LINE TRACKS.

AND SO THOSE ARE RUNNING AT A PARALLEL PIECE.

SO WE HAVE OUR NEPA PROCESS WITH THE ORANGE LINE EXACTLY IN THIS ELEVATED PIECE THAT WE'VE TALKED THROUGH.

HOWEVER, IF CAP, METRO CAN FIGURE OUT THE GRADE SEPARATION OF THE FREIGHT LINE THAT CHANGES THE ANALYSIS.

AND SO THE TEAM IS WORKING THROUGH MULTIPLE DESIGN PROCESSES.

SO IF THAT COULD GET TOGETHER AND WE DECIDE AS A COMMUNITY, OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE, WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN THOUGHT OF BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NEW FRA FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION FUNDING.

THAT'D BE DIFFERENT THAN THE TYPE OF FUNDING WE'RE USING TO GRADE SEPARATE THAT.

AND WORKING WITH OTHER OTHER PARTNERS, THERE COULD BE A WHOLE COMPLEX WAY TO DO CRESTVIEW LONG-TERM FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND REGION.

THE DRAG WE'VE TALKED THROUGH AT THIS BOARD AND A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT HAS, SO THERE'S ACTUAL OPTIONS IN THAT, IN THE NEPA PROCESS, WE HAVE TO GET TO A POINT

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WHERE WE ALL AGREE ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE AGAIN.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S HEARTACHE OR, UM, UM, UM, HARDENING OF POSITIONS, ESPECIALLY ON THE STAFF SIDE, IT'S JUST WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

I ACTUALLY WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE STAFF SIDE.

I THINK ALL THREE STAFFS ARE WORKING ON A DAILY BASIS.

FANTASTIC.

I THINK DAVE MENTIONED 200 PEOPLE ARE UNDESIGNED REVIEWS ACROSS THE ENTERPRISE.

UM, AND THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.

UM, SO IT IS VERY COLLABORATIVE AND PARTNERSHIP BASED.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST REALLY COMPLICATED, DETAILED WORK.

UH, BLUE LINE BRIDGE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AT THIS BOARD.

UM, THE STAFF IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON AN ANALYSIS TO BRING BACK TO THIS BOARD AND OUR OTHER AND OUR OTHER, UH, PARTNERS TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE ENGINEERING AND COMMUNITY, UH, UH, AGAIN, OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES RELATED TO THAT RAIL MAINTENANCE FACILITY.

UH, THE TEAM IS DOING, BEEN DOING DILIGENCE FOR PROBABLY ALMOST TWO YEARS ON WHERE THAT COULD ACTUALLY LAND.

UH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES IN CENTRAL AUSTIN WHERE YOU CAN TAKE 50, 60 ACRES AND JUST PUT AN INDUSTRIAL RAIL MAINTENANCE FACILITY WITH EVERYONE BEING OKAY WITH IT.

AND YOU NEED TO REALLY MANAGE THINGS LIKE DEADHEAD, WHERE THE VEHICLES PULL OUT AND HOW MUCH THEY ARE MANAGED AND, AND SOME SECURITY ASPECTS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, AND FUTURE-PROOFING A SCALABILITY, BUT A VERY COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN, UH, ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS ON THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THE TEAM IS PREPARED TO COME IN THE FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING TO TALK THROUGH HOW THAT PROCESS EVOLVING, UH, AND IN VEHICLES AND SYSTEMS. AND I WOULD SAY THE KEY ON VEHICLES THAT SYSTEMS IS NOT ABOUT LIKE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE BUYING.

UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY CAP, METRO IS GOING TO NEED THOSE VEHICLES TO GO INTO THEIR OVERALL ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THE MAINTENANCE SYSTEM AND B, B, B, THEIR FLEET TO OPERATE, BUT THE VEHICLE ATTRIBUTES OR CHARACTERISTICS, I THINK WE NEED TO FLUSH OUT AS A THREE TRI-PARTY DECISION GROUP.

AND WHEN DAVE KUBITSCHEK CAME IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD, WE KIND OF PROBABLY WENT THROUGH THAT RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE LOW FLOOR VEHICLES.

SO LOW FLOOR VEHICLES ARE THE ULTIMATE FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND UNIVERSAL ACCESSIBILITY THAT WE'D BEEN TALKING AS, AS A GROUP, BUT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY TRADE-OFFS WITH LOW FLOOR RELATION TO HOW MANY VEHICLE PROVIDERS MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT VEHICLE AND SPEED AND OTHER KIND OF PERFORMANCE, CHARACTER, CHARACTERISTICS.

THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I THINK WE, AS A GROUP, WE WANT TO GET TO SOME AGREEMENT AND NOT ABOUT THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE VEHICLE, WHERE THE SEATS ARE LIKE.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY TECHNICALLY DRIVEN, QUITE FRANKLY, I SHOULDN'T BE INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT THE ATTRIBUTES AND CHARACTERISTICS OF WHAT WE WANT THESE VEHICLES TO, TO PRODUCE FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHAT ARE THE FEATURE SET, IF YOU WILL, THAT THEY CAN DELIVER GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT 40 PLUS YEARS.

AND SO THERE MAY BE OTHER TOPICS THAT COME UP, BUT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE WHICH LEADS TO KIND OF THE LAST SLIDE AND THE TEAM WE PUT TOGETHER.

SOME QUESTIONS OTHER THAN PERFECT QUESTIONS.

OF COURSE NOT.

IT'S REALLY TO TRY TO HELP MOVE A CONVERSATION ALONG, UH, BECAUSE THE STAFF REALLY WANTS THE BOARD TO GIVE US INPUT ON HOW TO MOVE THIS PROCESS ALONG.

AND THE BOARD HAS INDICATED TO ME, AND, AND I THINK OTHER STAFF MEMBERS, THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY JUST GET PRESENTATIONS.

SO WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE CAVEAT, UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ARE VERY COMPLEX, COMPLICATED, UH, TOPICS THAT, UM, NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING.

SO WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW AS A TEAM, WE DO THAT TO GET EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WHEN WE GET TO, AGAIN, THAT'S SUMMER INTO FALL.

DECISION-MAKING SO KIND OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD POSE TO THE BOARD.

AND AGAIN, HAPPY TO HAVE WHATEVER DISCUSSION YOU ALL WOULD WANT ON THIS.

AND THEN I'LL WRAP THIS UP.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SET CONTEXT.

SO THANKS FOR THE TIME.

WHAT ARE THE BOARDS AND COUNCILS PRIORITY ISSUES, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS IN PREPARATION FOR THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS AND THE SEGMENT PHASING.

SO LIKE OTHER THINGS ON INPUTS THAT YOU FEEL ARE MISSING, UM, OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE NOT ON THAT LIST.

HOW AM I KIND OF THE FIRST ONE, ARE WE LANDING THAT KIND OF AREA PRETTY WELL? WHICH INPUTS DOES THE BOARD AND COUNCIL WANT TO FOCUS ON IN THE NEXT TWO QUARTERS? SO WE CAN GET TO DECISION-MAKING COMING OUT OF THE SUMMER INTO FALL.

AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN MIDDLE OF JANUARY NOW AND THOSE PRODUCTS START COMING OUT IN CERTAINLY SOME IN MAY, BUT JUNE IS GOING TO BE A BIG MONTH FOR PRODUCTS IN JULY.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE MONTHS OF ACTUAL TIME ON THIS WITH THIS BOARD, WHICH IS NOT A LOT OF TIME.

AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE OTHER PARTNERS TO GO THROUGH THESE COMPLICATED TOPICS.

AND SO THE LAST ONE IS WHAT IS THE BEST WAY THAT THE BOARD FEELS THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN? I DON'T LIKE A BIT OF WORD DIGESTING, EXPLORING, TALKING OUT, ANALYZING THESE TOPICS.

AND SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, THROW OUT FOR CONSIDERATION BOARD MEETINGS LIKE THIS.

THOSE ARE ALL PRESENTATIONS.

AND STAFF AND HAD EXPERTS.

WORKSHOPS, MAYBE A NICE ONE IS TO TAKE ALL THE TUMBLING AND WOULD DO A THREE HOUR WORKSHOP JUST ON TELLING WITH ALL THREE BOARDS

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GREAT.

I JUST USE, AGAIN, EXAMPLE MEMOS AND REPORTS.

WE'RE PRODUCING SOME REPORTS AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE NATIONALLY PART OF THE PROCESS.

IS THAT A GOOD WAY FOR YOU ALL ARE NOT OUTSIDE PEER EXPERTS? SO, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER CEOS, MAYBE, MAYBE SOME BOARD LEADS DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF TOPIC THAT HAVE EITHER A CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THIS OR HAVE GONE THROUGH THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS, BECAUSE THAT FUNNEL IS BASICALLY THE SAME FOR EVERY COMMUNITY.

NOW, THE TOPICS MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE AND THERE, BUT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT CAN WE AFFORD AT WHAT TIME AND WHAT ARE THE TRADE OFFS AND HOW MUCH DISRUPTION AND HOW MUCH STAFF AND HOW MUCH CONTRACTING AVAILABILITY IS OUT THERE TO EXECUTE EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S AN AIRPORT, A HIGHWAY TRANSIT TRANSIT, PROBABLY BEING THE MOST COMPLICATED BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEMS ELEMENT.

UH, DO WE WANT TO DO TOURS? YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING SOME ALIGNMENT TOURS STOPPING ON THE ORANGE LINE FOR A SATURDAY AND JUST STOPPING AT EACH LOCATION AND WORKING THROUGH TO PUT EYES ON THE GROUND.

UH, WE REALLY FEEL WE SHOULD GET TO SOME CITIES THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SOME THINGS LIKE ETO D THINGS LIKE COMPLEX TUNNELING, UNDERGROUND STATION DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THERE'S SOME STUFF GOING ON IN EUROPE AND IN ASIA RELATED TO ELECTRIC, UM, BATTERY, BATTERY ASSIST TRAINS AND THINGS LIKE PLATFORM, SCREEN DOORS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE ON OUR UNDERGROUND STATIONS.

UM, THEY ALLOW US A, TO BE THE SAFEST, BUT ALSO THEY ALLOW US TO HAVE ENVIRONMENTALLY CONTROLLED STATIONS, BUT THEY'RE AGAIN, GOING TO COST MONEY.

AND THERE'S TRADE-OFFS.

SO I KIND OF THROW THAT OUT TO THE GROUP BECAUSE I KNOW THE BOARD IS EXPRESSING A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, AUNTS.

THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY, WE NEED TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN THIS, THESE TOPICS STAFF DOESN'T WANT TO JUST DO PRESENTATIONS.

SO I GUESS I WOULD PUT IT TO THE BOARD HOLISTICALLY.

HOW DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST WAY TO DIGEST ALL THIS INFORMATION, INCLUDING HOW DO WE BRING IN CAP METRO BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO THIS PROCESS, KNOWING THAT ALL THESE THINGS END UP BEING TRI-PARTY DECISION AT THE END OF CONFIRMING THE DESIGN AND CONFIRMING THE SEGMENT, UH, PROCESS GOING FORWARD.

SO STARTING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME, BUT I REALLY WANT TO REALLY FOCUS THIS CONVERSATION AND LET THE BOARD THEN GIVE SOME INPUT TO STAFF ON, UM, ON YOUR THOUGHTS RELATED TO THIS, UH, PROCESS.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT CLARK.

UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE REST OF THE BOARD, THE DIAS QUESTIONS DISCUSSION MAY RATHER, AND AGAIN, I CAN SEE YOU A LITTLE BIT SMALL, SO IF I DON'T RECOGNIZE YOU AND YOU'RE MUTED, UH, MAYOR, UH, AND THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU A MEMBER ELKINS.

RANDY KIND OF DESCRIBING WHAT THE, WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS.

FIRST I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING RANDY FOR THIS, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT IS RESPONSIVE TO THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT, UH, THAT I HEAR, YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUES ASKING ON THE, ON THE DESK TO, TO, TO REALLY, UH, GET A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT THE UNIVERSITY IS OF WHAT'S ON OUR PLATE AND WHAT DO WE KNOW NOW OR REASONABLY BELIEVE NOW IS GOING TO BE COMING TO US.

UH, UH, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE KIND OF LAID OUT SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT ARE INVOLVED AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THOSE ARE THE ONLY 10 OR IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 10 MORE OF THOSE.

AND I JUST DON'T HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS.

AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY GOES TO PART OF THE QUESTION I HAVE.

IT'S, IT'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE LAYOUT NOW, WHAT IS IT THAT ARE THE RISK ELEMENTS AND THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE? HOW DO YOU MAKE IN 30% DRAWINGS, THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE AND WHAT'S AN OPTION A AND IS THAT THE KIND OF THING THAT, THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE MADE BY THE THREE DIFFERENT BOARDS EACH, YOU KNOW, FROM WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM? UH, IT'S REAL APPARENT THAT THIS IS REALLY, REALLY COMPLICATED, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE DEPENDENT ON, ON THE OTHER DECISIONS.

AND I THINK EVERYONE'S GETTING A LITTLE ANXIOUS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL DO OUR JOB AND PROVIDE THE, THE BEST AVAILABLE ADVICE.

UM, WE HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT 30% DRAWINGS MIGHT HAVE TO BE DONE BY MAY OR JUNE IN ORDER TO BACK UP TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS PROJECT, UH, FORWARD TO THE FEDS FOR APPROVAL WHILE WE HAVE THE EXISTING ADMINISTRATION.

UH, I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT, THAT IT COULD BE THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR TO DO THAT.

SO TRUING UP ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL.

I'VE LOOKED AT THE PAGE WHERE YOU'VE ASKED THE QUESTIONS AND I DON'T HAVE A CLUE IS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO, TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

UH, CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT I, THAT I KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT AT THE TALKING TO PEOPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT INFORMATION I THINK WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AND WENT THROUGH SOME OF THIS WITH VERONICA, WITH WADE, WITH ON THE CAP METRO BOARD, UH, I HAD SOMETHING THAT I ASKED CASEY TO HAND OUT TO EVERYBODY, WHICH IS A KIND OF A DIFFERENT WAY.

UH,

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UH, AND, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A KIND OF A WORKSHOP MEETING SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY, ASSUMING WE CAN GET IN TO DO THAT WITHOUT, UH, UM, UH, DETRIMENTALLY IMPACT EQUITY CONVERSATIONS GOING ON IN THAT PROCESS, BECAUSE I THINK OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY AT THE MOMENT, UH, BUT IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE EVERYBODY TOGETHER ON THE GLOBAL ISSUE OF, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE TAXES ON THIS THING.

AND WHILE WE HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND DON'T DO, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT WITHIN THAT ENVELOPE.

I THINK IF, IF ALL THREE BODIES AGREE ON THAT, THAT'D BE A REALLY IMPORTANT THING FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON WITH OUR DIFFERENT BUCKETS AND I JUST TRIED TO IDENTIFY THEM, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF, IF ATP STAFF AND CITY STAFF AND CAP BEDRO STAFF COULD HAVE, UH, JOINTLY A WORKSHOP FOR ALL THREE BOARDS, SOMETIMES IN FEBRUARY THAT DIDN'T TRY TO RESOLVE, BUT AT LEAST LAID OUT IN DAYLIGHTED FOUR DIFFERENT BUCKETS.

THE FIRST ARE THE UNRESOLVED DESIGN ELEMENTS WITH CONFLICTING PRIORITIES.

THE QUESTION THAT, THAT, THAT THOSE 10 THINGS THAT YOU HAD, IF THERE'S MORE THAN 10 OR THE CITY OF AUSTIN WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING ON THERE THAT WAS, THEY SAW THAT WAS COMING DOWN, THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME SENSIBILITY FOR SOMEONE ON CAP METRO OR THE LIKE.

UM, BUT TO TALK THROUGH THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER BUSES ARE ON, ON THAT BRIDGE, FOR EXAMPLE, BUSES ARE GUADALUPE OR BRUSHES ON THE BLUE BRIDGE IS AN OPTION OR AN ALTERNATIVE KIND OF ISSUE BUCKET B WOULD BE THOSE THINGS WHERE THERE ARE CONFLICTING PRIORITIES THAT STAFF'S NOT IN AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE DESIGN OPTION THAT THAT IS BEING PRESENTED RIGHT NOW FOR THE THIRD 30% DESIGN DOCUMENT.

SO THAT, UH, ATP STAFF AND OR CITY STAFF AT DOOR CAP, METRO STAFF COULD STEP FORWARD AND SAY, HEY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS, WE REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE THE BODIES TO KIND OF WEIGH IN.

UH, THEY, THE EXHIBIT C ARE THINGS WHERE, UH, UH, THE STAFFS GOT TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY HAD TO WORK THROUGH CONFLICTING PRIORITIES AND MADE A DECISION JUST TO DAYLIGHT THOSE NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RAISED AN ISSUE AND YOU GUYS WORKED REALLY HARD TO RESOLVE IT TO A DAYLIGHT THAT NOW, SO THAT THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE NOT HEARING ABOUT IT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, MUCH LATER IN THE PROCESS, UH, WHEN IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO, TO, TO DEAL WITH THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, JUST TO LAY OUT THAT UNIVERSE AS WELL.

AND THEN THE FOURTH BUCKET, I THINK IS KIND OF WHAT YOU HAD, UH, UH, ON YOUR, ON YOUR CHART OR THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE NON-DESIGN THINGS, THE QUESTIONS ABOUT ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

DO WE MAKE CHOICES OF WHAT TO SPEND MORE OR SPEND DIFFERENTLY OR CHEST THE TIMEFRAME, ALL STAYING WITHIN THE TAX ALLOTMENT? I THINK THAT MIGHT BE GOOD.

UM, BUT I WOULD PROPOSE THOSE FOUR BUCKETS.

AND I THINK THAT IF THE THREE STAFFS WOULD JUST POPULATE THOSE BUCKETS AND WALK EVERYBODY THROUGH THAT AT ALL THREE BOARDS IN FEBRUARY, WE WOULD HAVE KIND OF THE UNIVERSE OF WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US.

AND THEN I THINK THE STAFF'S GO AWAY TOGETHER AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE UNIVERSE OF DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO IN TERMS OF AN APPROVAL, UH, UH, WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD THAT WE NEED IT BACKING UP FOR THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS BY, BY THESE POINTS.

UH, AND, UH, THAT WOULD LEAD US TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THERE ARE THESE ALL, WHAT DECISIONS ARE THREE OF US ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON IF THERE ARE DECISIONS THAT ALL THE WATER, TWO OF US NEED TO WEIGH OUT IDENTIFYING THOSE.

BUT I THINK IT BEGINS WITH HAVING A WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY THAT JUST DOESN'T DO MUCH MORE THAN POPULATES THOSE THREE BUCKETS.

AND THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THOSE BUCKETS.

THAT'S WHAT I PROPOSE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I KNOW BOARD MEMBER ELKINS, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.

FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL.

I THINK BEFORE WE'D HAVE THE WORKSHOP, I THINK IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT WE DECIDE ON DECISIONS WHO MAKES DECISIONS.

AND IS THIS A WORKSHOP FOR JUST FEEDBACK AND ADVICE BECAUSE, OR IS IT A DECISION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ASK ALL THREE PARTIES FOR A VOTE BEFORE WE MAKE DECISIONS ON DESIGN? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I GO BACK TO THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION OF ATP AND IT SAYS HERE, THE CORPORATION IS THE PRINCIPAL ENTITY, RESPONSIBLE FINANCING, DESIGNING, BUILDING, AND IMPLEMENTING WITH CAP, METRO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN IN A MANNER INDEPENDENT OF THE

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CITY AND CAP METRO.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP SOME LEVEL OF INDEPENDENCE.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT ALSO SAYS HERE THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND CAP METRO WITH RESPECT TO IMPLEMENTING THE SEQUENCE PLAN.

I THINK THAT'S FINE.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GO DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHERE WE THEN HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY AND METRO TO GET MANY DECISIONS APPROVED, BECAUSE ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF SETTING UP ATP AS AN INDEPENDENT LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION IS IT TAKES A LOT OF THAT.

QUOTE-UNQUOTE POLITICS OUT OF IT.

AND IF YOU READ THE EMAIL REPORT, THERE'S A GREAT QUOTE THAT SAID FRAUGHT TRANSIT GOVERNANCE THAT IS SUBJECT TO SIGNIFICANT POLITICAL INTERFERENCE CAN RESULT IN EXPENSIVE PROJECTS AND SIGNIFICANT DELAYS CANCELLATIONS AND CHANGE ORDERS.

SO AS LONG AS WE KEEP THE BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, WHO'S MAKING CERTAIN DECISIONS AND ITS INPUT, THAT'S FINE.

BUT IF WE HAVE TO GO TO ALL THOSE THREE BODIES TO GET CONSENSUS ON DESIGN CHANGES ON TRADE-OFFS, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ADVANCE A DRAFT EIS, TONY, I HEAR, AND I AGREE.

I THINK THAT WHERE DECISIONS WE CAN MAKE EARLY AND HAVE EVERYBODY KIND OF LAID OUT THE BETTER OFF WE ARE.

I MEAN, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO AVOID.

I THINK WHAT HE KNOWS WORRIED ABOUT, WHICH IS YOU'RE DOING CHANGE ORDERS, YOU HAVE POLITICAL ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

I THINK IF ANY DECISIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE AT THE BEGINNING HELP AS I LOOK AT THE DIFFICULT CHOICES, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE IT, HOW ANYONE ENTITY COULD MAKE THOSE CHOICES, INCLUDING ATP.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, AND I THINK THAT THAT EVERYBODY'S PRIORITIES, ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE SAME BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE WANT IS EXACTLY THE SAME, ALL THREE BODIES, BUT I THINK DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WOULD PROBABLY PRIORITIZE THEM DIFFERENTLY FROM THEIR VIEW.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO WIDEN THE RIGHT OF WAY IN ANY PARTICULAR PLACE IS GOING TO DEPEND TO A CERTAIN DEGREE IN SOME PLACES ON WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE BICYCLE PATHS, UH, OR WHETHER WE HAVE, UH, DON'T HAVE BICYCLE PATHS AND DON'T PROVIDE PEDESTRIANS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PROVIDE IT, THEN THE RIGHT OF WAY COSTS ARE LESS, UH, AND THE PROJECT COSTS ARE LESS.

THAT'S NOT A DECISION.

I, THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT ANY ONE BODY CAN MAKE, UH, IN ATP COULD MAKE THAT DECISION FOR THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY, UH, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ITS RIGHT AWAY AND IT HAS CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO AT SOME POINT THAT DECISION, WHICH PROBABLY WILL IMPACT THE SEQUENCING PLAN IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DO WHEN, OR WHETHER WE EXTENDED OTHER TWO YEARS, THEY JUST SEEM TO BE SO INTERWOVEN.

UM, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO MAKES, WHAT DECISIONS IN THE ABSTRACT IS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD FOR US.

AND WE MIGHT FIND OURSELVES, UM, HAVING DIFFICULTY RESOLVING THOSE QUESTIONS.

IF THERE WAS A SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT IT, AND WE SAY, OKAY, WHO DECIDES THIS QUESTION? I'M WHAT ARE THE ELEMENTS HERE THAT I THINK WE MIGHT MORE DIRECTLY BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT, WHICH IS WHERE I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS TO POPULATE THOSE BUCKETS.

AND THEN I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE APPARENT FOR US COLLECTIVELY ON, ON WHAT THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS NEEDS TO BE AND WHO NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED.

AND IT MAY VARY BASED ON EITHER VARY BASED ON WHAT KIND OF DECISION IT IS THAT'S BEING MADE.

I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT IN THE ABSTRACT.

APPRECIATE THAT.

AND DR.

BURNETT, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? I DID, BUT, BUT THE MAYOR, UM, ADDRESSED IT, WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, SO NO NEED TO REPEAT IT.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT, UM, I APPRECIATE RANDY'S ATTEMPT TO DELINEATE, UH, BRING ORDER TO THE CHAOS.

I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY AS WE MUDDLED THROUGH THIS, UM, THERE IS NO ONE WAY TO ADDRESS IT.

WORKSHOP'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND I THINK THAT'S A PART OF THE COMPLICATION AND MAYBE A WORKSHOP ON, UM, WITH VARIOUS SPECIFIC, LIKE THE 10 THINGS OR THE 20 THINGS, OR WHATEVER, TO TRY AND PUT AS MUCH DELINEATED, DELINEATION AND GUARD RAILS AROUND IT AS POSSIBLE.

IT W UH, YOU KNOW, KEEPING WITHIN THE BYLAWS, ET CETERA.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND? SURE.

AND WITHOUT SAYING THIS IN A WEIRD WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW OF US KNOW REALLY THE INTENT ATP, BECAUSE WE, WE PUT THE WHOLE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER AND MOVE THE PROGRAM FORWARD.

THANKS.

I THINK REAL GOOD, HEALTHY CONVERSATION.

IN FACT, I THINK WE NEED MORE OF THOSE CONVERSATION.

UM, I THINK WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'LL BE HONEST.

I THINK THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

EVERYONE IS TRYING TO F AND I HEAR THIS A LOT.

UH, WELL, HERE'S THE INTENT OF ATP.

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AND I'M LORI THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS BEING INTERPRETED DIFFERENTLY BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON DIFFERENT BOARDS, WHETHER IT'S THIS BOARD CAP METRO OR THE CITY.

AND TO ME, THE ONLY WAY THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IS THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP APPROACH.

PERIOD.

IF ANY ONE AGENCY IS GOING TO TRY TO ATTEMPT TO DO PIECES AND CUT THE OTHER PARTS OUT, I THINK THIS PROGRAM IS IN FOUR SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AND THE CONTRACTORS ARE GOING TO BID THAT RISK INTO THE PROGRAM.

AND WE'RE IN THE FA FTA WILL SEE THAT RISK TOO.

SO I THINK THE MORE BUY-IN THAT WE CAN GET FROM THE THREE PARTNERS ACTUALLY THEN ALLOWS ATP TO HAVE MORE AUTONOMY LONG LATER, TO MANAGE CONTRACTS AND MANAGE THE MONEY BECAUSE THE REAL PURPOSE OF ATP WAS TO KICK THE MONEY INTO A BANK TO BE USED JUST FOR THIS PROGRAM.

SO IT COULD NOT BE USED BY THE CURRENT OR FUTURE COUNCILS AND THE CURRENT CAP, METRO BOARD AND FUTURE KEVIN BOARDS FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

SO THE MONEY IS PROTECTED FOR THE PROGRAM AND THE WAY THAT MONEY GETS SPENT IS THROUGH CONTRACTS.

BUT TO GET TO THE CONTRACTING DECISION POINT, I THINK WE NEED AS MUCH BUY-IN FROM EVERYONE AS POSSIBLE TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY OWNS THE RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY.

AND SO THE CITY WILL HAVE TO HAVE DETERMINATION ON, YOU CAN TAKE THIS LANE OR THIS PARKING OR THAT, I MEAN, IT'S THE CITY'S CAP.

METRO IS THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY WHO RUNS TRANSIT AND IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBLE FOR SAFETY, RESPONSIBLE OPERATIONS, UM, AND ULTIMATELY HAS TO CERTIFY THE TRANSIT OR SO, I MEAN, BOTH PROGRAMS SPONSORS HAVE KIND OF SOME TRUMP CARDS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT, RIGHT.

WE WANT THE PARTNERSHIP TO WORK IN A WAY WHERE THE TRUMP CARDS ARE NEVER PLAYED BECAUSE THE TRUMP CARD ON THE CAP METRO SIDE IS WE WON'T CERTIFY THAT AND WE WON'T OPERATE IT.

THE CITY SIDE IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO ISSUE A PERMIT AND YOU'RE NOT TAKING THE PARKING SPACES OR THE LANE OR WHATEVER.

AND SO I THINK THE MORE WE DRIVE EVERYONE TO CONSENSUS BUILDING ACTUALLY GETS, AND I THINK THE MAYOR WAS ALLUDING TO THAT, THAT ACTUALLY PROTECTS THE PROGRAM AND HELPS IN A LOT OF WAYS, GET TO ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES, ORGANICALLY WITHOUT PUTTING PEOPLE IN BOXES.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH BECAUSE EVERYONE IS SEEING IT THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS, BUT WE ALL HAVE THE SAME GOAL AND OUTCOME.

AND, AND WE ARE, AND I THINK THE MAYOR USED THE WORD ANXIETY.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'D GO THAT FAR.

MAYBE I HAVE THAT EVERY DAY IS, UH, WE HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH VERY COMPLEX THINGS.

AND SO IF THE BOARD WOULD PREFER THAT WE WORK WITH THIS BOARD AND THE OTHER BOARDS, AGAIN, THERE'S A WORKSHOP.

IDEALLY WE CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER, BUT FRAME UP WHAT THE NEXT SIX MONTHS LOOK LIKE WITH ALIGNMENT TOURS AND SITE VISITS TO OTHER CITIES AND EXPERT PANELS.

WE COULD START WORKING ON THAT NOW, BUT I KIND OF NEED SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME TO PUT A TRIP TOGETHER TO SEATTLE OR FRANCE AND PUTS TIME TO GET AN EXPERT PANEL TO TALK ABOUT TUNNELING.

AND WE'RE ALMOST IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE HOME, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO FEBRUARY AND I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GIVE THE BOARDS THE COMFORTABILITY OF INFORMATION BY THAT SUMMER, BECAUSE WE THINK PROBABLY BY OCTOBER AT THE LATEST WE NEED TO BE AT THOSE DECISION POINTS TO GET THE RECORD OF DECISION IN THE WINTER.

AND WE NEED THE RECORD OF DECISION AND THE WINTER, WE FEEL TO GET THE FULL FUNDING GRANT AGREEMENT IN 20, 24.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BUILDING OURS BASED ON THOSE KINDS OF COMPONENTS.

SO AGAIN, THE MORE FEEDBACK YOU CAN GIVE US TO SAY STAFF, YES, GO FORWARD TO THAT.

OR NO STAFF DON'T DO THAT.

WE'LL COME UP WITH IDEAS THAT WILL PROBABLY HELP THE CONVERSATION.

LIKE I REMEMBER P AND DECA, CAN I GIVE ME A PROGRAM FEE? AND THAT COVERS THE FLOOR.

UM, RANDY, I REALLY LIKED THE WAY THAT YOU'VE LAID OUT THE DESIGN OPTIONS AND THE QUESTIONS.

AND I LIKED THE WAY THAT THE MAYOR SORT OF LAID OUT WHAT THE PROGRAM ELEMENTS ARE.

UM, JUST FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE.

I THINK THAT STAFF WOULD, AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH POLICY MAKERS AND TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN A LONG TIME.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE DID REALLY WELL LAST YEAR.

UM, AND, AND, AND IN 2019, AND I THINK THAT IS KIND OF WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE MISSING PIECE.

SO THERE WOULD BE REAL VALUE IN HAVING A FORUM FOR THAT.

AND I THINK STAFF FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE WOULD REALLY WELCOME THAT.

GO AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD ONE OF THESE ALMOST EVERY MONTH OR EVERY OTHER MONTH, IT WOULD BE REAL HEALTHY, MAYBE IT'S EVERY OTHER MONTH.

THANK YOU, JEAN.

I WILL SAY, I THINK THAT, THAT WE HAD 12 OF THESE, I THINK TOGETHER, I THINK IT'S THE MOST HEALTHY THING WE DID IN THE ENTIRE PROGRAM.

IT LED TO THE OPEN TRANSPARENCY DISCUSSION.

WE HAD UNANIMOUS VOTES ACROSS BOTH BODIES TO GET TO THE VOTE.

UM, I WOULD

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CAUSE WE DO THESE OTHER ACTIVITIES.

UM, WE HAVE A WINDOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MORE PEOPLE'S ATTENTION ON THESE BIG TOPICS TO GET TO THAT RIGHT POINT.

SO, THANKS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, UM, DR.

BURNETT, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP TOO BEFORE.

OH, NO, I'M SORRY, MAYOR.

I LIKED THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT.

THE FIRST THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME WOULD BE TO KNOW THE UNIVERSE.

SO BEFORE WE TALKING ABOUT FIVE THINGS, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF IT'S FIVE THINGS, IF FIVE TO 10 THINGS OR FIVE THINGS OF 20 THINGS OR SO, SO TO ME, OUR BEST SENSE OF WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS OF THE HARD CHOICES OR THE BIG CAUSE CHOICES, JUST HAVING THOSE WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND THEN IF YOU NEED THEM ALL DECIDED BY OCTOBER, PROBABLY NOT THE BEST SYSTEM TO TEE THEM ALL UP FOR DECISIONS IN OCTOBER, I GUESS IT COULD BE.

I JUST KNOW, BUT TO HAVE THE THREE STAFFS GO AWAY AND SAY, OKAY, ULTIMATELY WE NEED THESE DECISIONS MADE BY OCTOBER.

HERE'S A SCHEDULE OF THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE, WHERE THEY CAN BE MADE OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME OR THE STAFFS KIND OF LAY OUT THE SCHEDULE FOR YEAR TO THERE.

UH, AND IF THERE'S INFORMATION THAT HAS TO BE HAPPENING IN TERMS OF TRIPS OR MEETINGS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT SCHEDULE, UH, THEN I THINK YOU COULD DO THAT, BUILD THAT IN AS THE NEXT, AS THE NEXT STEP.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR SOME, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME ANXIOUSNESS ON OTHER BOARDS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO WHO'S DOING WHAT AND, AND HAVING US ALL TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT THAT UNIVERSE IS.

I STILL THINK IT WOULD BE PRETTY HELPFUL AND I THINK THAT'D BE A PLACE TO START.

AND THEN I THINK RANDY, TO YOUR POINT IN GINA STAFF CAN GO AWAY AND COME BACK TO THE THREE BOARDS AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS, THIS IS THE PATH TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE.

AND I'D LIKE TO MENTION ALSO THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE WHO'S CONTRIBUTED.

I THINK THAT FROM, FROM AN ENGINEERING ARCHITECTURE DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, THAT CONSULTANTS, I THINK WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THAT WHEN YOU TAKE A DESIGN SO FAR, IT IMPACTS THE COST ESTIMATES AND IT IMPACTS HAVING TO THEN BACKTRACK IF THEY HAVE TO DO ANY REWORK LATER.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO, I THINK WE ALL, AS THREE ENTITIES NEED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, ANY DECISION THAT WE MAKE THAT CHANGES LATER BASED ON, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS BEYOND A VERY SCHEMATIC LEVEL OR IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS HAS A PRICE TAG AND A TIMELINE.

SO I, I REALLY LIKE TO ENCOURAGE US ALL TO HAVE REALLY EARLY DECISION MAKING PROCESSES THAT MAY IMPACT A CITY ORDINANCE FOR INSTANCE.

SO A CITY ORDINANCE DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A VACUUM AND WITH A SWITCH OF A BUTTON, YOU KNOW, IT GOES THROUGH SEVERAL READINGS AND COMMUNITY INPUT.

SO ANYTHING THAT IS IMPACTING OR MAY IMPACT THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN THAT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS INTERDEPENDENCIES CONNECTED TO THIS OTHER INTERDEPENDENCY, THERE'S A PRICE TAG TO IT THAT IMPACTS THE COST THAT IMPACTS THE DELIVERABLES AND THAT HE MAY EVEN COST REWORK.

WE DON'T WANT THAT IN A PERFECT SCENARIO.

UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S ALREADY IN ALIGNMENT, WE HAVE A VISION, WE HAVE A, UH, A SYSTEM PLAN THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS VOTED ON.

AND, UH, AND WHAT IS THAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THE OVERALL VISION OF OUR CITY, OF WHO WE WANT TO BE, WHO WE WANT TO BECOME? SO PIECES THAT I HAVE FELT, UH, THAT COULD REALLY BE HAVING WORKSHOPS, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAND ON HAND, ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES, LET'S HAVE A WEEKEND SESSION OF THESE ITEMS IMPACT, UH, LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE COSTS AND RIGHT AWAY DELIVERY AND EVEN FLEET PURCHASES, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD IMPACT EACH OTHER, BUT FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, OR IF WE'RE LOOKING AT VISION ZERO GOALS, HOW DO THOSE IMPACT WHO WE WANT TO BE AS A CITY AS WELL? SO I REALLY LIKE, AND I APPRECIATE THE STAFF THAT WORKED IS SHARING WITH US SOME THINGS IN THE BUCKET LIST AND HOW WE POPULATE THEM.

UM, BUT ALSO TO YOUR QUESTION, RANDY IS LIKE, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WE ALL ARE REALLY WORKING TOWARDS A RECORD OF DECISION OF UNDERSTANDING THAT GETTING FEDERAL FUNDING IS A MAJOR PIECE OF COMPONENT OF THIS PROGRAM.

AND WHAT DOES THAT STRATEGY LOOK LIKE? WHEN DO WE MAKE THAT PROCESS, UH, YOU KNOW, BACKING BACKTRACKING, OUR SCHEDULES TO THIS IS A MAJOR DECISION

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POINT.

THIS IS, I'M GLAD WE'RE FINALLY SEEING THIS, THIS ROADMAP HERE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DEALING FOR THE SUMMER? BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THIS POINT THAT WE CAN BACKTRACK EASILY BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY TURNED IN TOWARDS, UM, MEETING OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THEN LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO POSITION US TO THE RIGHT, TO BE THE STRONGEST WE CAN BE IN OBTAINING THE MOST FUNDING.

RICK MET HIM HERE.

UH, DR.

BURNETT, RANDY, UM, WOULD IT, AND THIS MIGHT BE A REFLECTION OF LEARNING STYLES OF HOW PEOPLE GET TO DECISION MOLDING, CONSENSUS.

UM, IS IT, IS IT VERY COMP HOW COMPLICATED WOULD IT BE TO PUT TOGETHER? AM I OVERSIMPLIFYING IT, UM, LIKE A PROJECT PLAN WITH TIMELINES OF DECISION POINTS, LIKE THE ONE DOCUMENT WITH KEY IMPACTS ACTION DECISION MAKING, ALMOST LIKE A FLOW CHART WITH A TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH IT WITH ASSIGNMENTS THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS PERSON, THIS AND THIS ENTITIES ROLE, THIS IS THIS ENTITIES ROLE SO THAT WE, SO THAT WE HAVE A, LIKE A ROADMAP THAT'S FLEXIBLE, THAT WILL CHANGE BECAUSE A PROJECT DECIDES THERE'S GOING TO BE CHANGES, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY TANGIBLE THAT WE CAN PUT OUR ARMS AROUND AND THAT CAN BE MOLDED AS WE MOVE AT LEAST A FRAMEWORK.

AND JOHN AND PETER, AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON THE KIND OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.

I, I TH I THINK THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TO THE NEXT STEP.

SO THE FIRST WAS THIS FUNNEL AND THEN M STAFF ALREADY HAS SOME THINGS LAID OUT.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THINGS LIKE UTILITIES OR, OR OUR CODE, UH, AMENDMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO LIKE DAVID AND NICK ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT ON A DAILY BASIS.

SO STAFF IS, I MEAN, WE HAVE, I THINK, LIKE DAVE SAID, WE HAD 200 STAFF INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AND DOZENS OF CAP, METRO PEOPLE, AND OBVIOUSLY THE WHOLE ATP TEAM.

SO WE'RE PUTTING IN ALL THE CONSULTANTS, WE'RE PUTTING HUNDREDS OF HUMAN HOURS INTO THIS, UM, BY THE WEEK.

SO REST ASSURED THE STAFF HAS ACTUALLY ALL COORDINATE AND GOING THROUGH THAT.

UM, DO WE HAVE THE MASTER, UH, PIECE LAID OUT? NO, BUT THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND WE KIND OF WANT TO GET TO THIS FUNNEL PROCESS FIRST, AND THEN THAT'S THE NEXT DERIVATIVE AGAIN? I WOULD, I WOULD CAUTION.

I KNOW YOU DIDN'T MEAN THIS WORD.

THE WAY I WILL SUGGESTED IS WE GOT TO REALLY PULL BACK THIS IDEA OF IT'S A PROJECT, TOO.

WE HAVE A PROJECTS WITHIN A PROGRAM.

I CAN'T, I WILL PROBABLY TRY TO EMPHASIZE THAT EVERY MEETING IT IS BEYOND CRUCIAL THAT WE SEPARATE PROJECTS AND PROGRAM BECAUSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS WE'LL HAVE A PROCESS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND RECORD.

THE DECISION IS ONE OF THAT COMPONENT TO A FUNDING GRANT AGREEMENT.

THE PROGRAM HAS TO TAKE ALL THE INPUTS FROM ALL THE PROJECTS, PLUS THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND THE RISK ANALYSIS AND PUT IN HOW WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER THE PROJECTS.

SO IT'S KIND OF CIRCULAR IN SOME WAY.

AND I KNOW DR.

MINETTE, YOU MEANT IT THAT WAY.

I JUST WANT IT FOR THE LARGER AUDIENCE TO KIND OF GIVE SOME DIFFERENT WORDING TO IT.

SO I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE, THE STAFF WANTS TO NEXT ON THAT SPECIFICALLY.

I THINK WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON THE LIGHT RAIL PARTS OF THE PROGRAM CAUSE THEY ARE THE LARGEST PIECE, THE MOST DISRUPTIVE PIECE AND THE MOST FINANCIALLY DRIVEN PIECE OF THE WHOLE MODEL AND THE PROGRAM.

NOW IT'S GETTING INTO THAT FLOW CHART THAT SAYS, THIS IMPACTS THIS TO THE IMPACTS, THIS, SO A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE, WE HAVE TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO THE, UH, WHEN WE DO THE DRAFT EIS, RIGHT? AND THERE'S A REVIEW PERIOD AND WE WANT THE REVIEW PERIOD.

I BELIEVE IT'S 45 DAYS.

IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, GET KICKED ON THE TABLE.

I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S 45 DAYS THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT 45 DAYS.

SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO LAY THAT OUT IN EITHER JULY OR AUGUST TO GET TO OCTOBER DECISION-MAKING.

WE DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE WOULD TAKE TO THE THREE LEADERSHIP BOARDS DECISION-MAKING BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING WITH THAT SAID, WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH ALL THE TOPICS TO THEN ALLOW US TO HAVE A GOOD PUBLIC HEARING TO THEN AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE KIND OF GET TO WRAPPING UP THE PROCESS.

SO IF WE CAN JUST RESOLVE SOME OF THE DESIGN ISSUES, AND WHEN I SAY RESOLVE, AT LEAST GET CONSENSUS ON HOW TO MOVE THE PROCESS FORWARD, BECAUSE EVEN AFTER 30%, A GOOD EXAMPLE IS LET'S SAY WE DO DESIGN BUILD AND JUST THROW IT OUT THERE.

THE DESIGN OF 30% WILL CHANGE BETWEEN 30 AND A HUNDRED.

IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T MEAN GOING BACKWARDS THOUGH AND WASTING TIME AND MONEY.

IT MEANS EVOLVING THE DESIGN.

AND SO WE MAY HEY THAT THAT POWER MOVES THERE AND THIS CONFLICT IS HERE.

THAT THAT ACTUALLY IS A NATURAL PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT THE BIGGEST DRIVERS ARE THESE 10.

NOW WE'LL DO ANOTHER SCRUB TO SEE, I THINK TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, ARE THERE MORE CLEARLY THERE'S MORE TOPICS, BUT WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO CONCENTRATE AS BEST WE CAN IS THE BIG TOPICS.

THE ONES THAT DRIVE DECISION-MAKING PISS THINGS THAT INVOLVE 1,000,003 OR $4 MILLION.

ONE ACTUALLY DOES DRIVE DECISION MAKING ON THE PROGRAM.

AND WE'RE IN PEAK CONSTRUCTION.

WE MIGHT BE SPENDING $3 MILLION A DAY,

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$4 MILLION A DAY.

AND SO WE NEED TO GET TALKING ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS TO THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BECAUSE THOSE ACTUALLY LIKE A CHAIR, YOU'RE SAYING THE INTERDEPENDENCIES OF THOSE REALLY FLOW OUT TO THE WHOLE PROGRAM AND WE CAN'T GET THE, OUR TEAM READY TO DO PROCUREMENTS UNTIL THOSE DECISIONS KIND OF GET MADE.

SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLVE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT CAUSE THAT'S PART OF DESIGN, BUT IT'S KIND OF NOT IN THIS KIND OF WEIRD WAY.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE LONG BEFORE OCTOBER BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED IT POLICY DECISION, AS MUCH AS I THINK WORKING THROUGH AND GETTING CONSENSUS OF THIS IS THE VALUES THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE FLEET, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHERE DO WE WANT TO TUNNEL AND HOW LONG IS IT THERE? THEY'RE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

SO THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER ELKINS, AND THEN DR.

BURNETT, UH, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE RANDY IS A VERY CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR ADVICE FROM THE THREE PARTIES AND THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR APPROVAL.

CRYSTAL CLEAR ON THAT BECAUSE TRYING TO GET 25 PEOPLE OR 24 PEOPLE TO AGREE ON THINGS IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.

SO I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS, WHETHER IT'S TWIN BOARD, A SINGLE BOARD, MAYBE THAT MAKES SENSE THAT ALL THREE BODIES HAVE TO A PROVE THAT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WHETHER WE DO AIR CONDITIONED STATIONS, MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE A ATP DECISION WITH ADVICE AND INPUT FROM THREE PARTIES.

SO AS LONG AS WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT, THEN I THINK MY CONCERN, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH POLITICAL INTERFERENCE, WHICH WILL DELAY THE PROGRAM AND RESULT IN CHANGE ORDERS WILL BE MET.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, I THINK IT DOES.

I, I GUESS I WOULD, UM, YEAH, WE'RE HAVING A GOOD CONVERSATION HERE.

SO HERE'S HOW WE RESPOND TO THAT BOARD MEMBER.

AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO, UH, DECOUPLE POLITICAL INTERFERENCE VERSUS OWNERSHIP DECISION-MAKING, YOU KNOW, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GOING TO BE SO ATP'S JOB, IT HAS ALWAYS HAS BEEN ENVISIONED IS THE FACILITATOR OF THE DESIGN PROCESS FOR THE TWO OWNERS TO GIVE INFRASTRUCTURE BACK TO THE TWO OWNERS BECAUSE SO GINA AND HER TEAM OR PUBLIC WORKS OR AUSTIN ENERGY, YOU NAME IT WHEN, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS DONE, WE'LL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE DRAINAGE, ALL THE SIDEWALKS, ALL THE BIKE LANES, ALL THE TREES OF THE NEW UTILITIES CAP.

METRO IS TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE GUIDEWAY, THE STATIONS, THE LIGHTING, THE SECURITY CAMERAS, THE VEHICLES, THE MAINTENANCE, THE TRACK, YOU NAME IT.

RIGHT? AND SO ATP'S JOB IS TO FACILITATE THAT PARTNERSHIP, BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER.

SO DESIGN, EFFECTUATE THAT THROUGH A CONTRACT AND IT BACK TO THE TWO OWNERS.

AND I THINK WE GOT TO JUST DISTINGUISH A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT BOARD MEMBER, YOUR COMMENT.

AND IT SAID, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PROCESS IT.

SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

I THINK WHAT MIGHT WORK IS MAYBE SAYING WHO'S A LEAD AND WHO IS A SUPPORT ON A DECISION THAT MIGHT BE TO WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT, AT LEAST IN MY BRAIN IS PROCESSING THAT.

SO LIKE A GOOD EXAMPLE IS I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE THE LEAD ON THE COMPLETE STREETS CONCEPTS, BECAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF DIFFERENT NON TRANSIT GOALS.

CAP METRO, I THINK IS PRETTY LOGICAL TO BE THE VEHICLE LEAD BECAUSE IT'S CABINET METROS OF THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY HAS ALL THE EXPERTISE AND ULTIMATELY IT HAS TO MANAGE AND RUN THE VEHICLES, UM, FIGURING OUT HOW TO PUT ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, I THINK IS THAT PIECE.

SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO BRING THREE BODIES TOGETHER TO VOTE ON SINGLE VERSUS DUAL BORE, AS MUCH AS I THINK WE WANT TO GET EVERYONE GROUNDED ON THE FINAL 30% DESIGN AND THE SEGMENT PHASING PLAN.

SO NOT TRYING TO GET ALL THREE BODIES TO YOUR POINT, TAKING TIME TO VOTE ON ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL THINGS, BUT THE SUMMATION OF ALL THE THINGS.

SO WE USE THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AS A PROCESS TO MAKE EVERYONE DRIVE TO CONSENSUS.

AND THE MAYOR HAS USED THIS BEFORE THIS LANGUAGE.

AND I THINK WE DID, WE DID 12 OF THESE MEETINGS AND IT DROVE CAP METRO AND THE C TO A CONSENSUS OF HOW TO DELIVER SOMETHING.

I THINK IF WE USE THAT PROCESS THROUGHOUT A CONSENSUS, THEN WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET INTO COMPLICATED VOTES ON INDIVIDUAL THINGS AS MUCH AS THE FINAL PRODUCT.

RANDY, WHEN YOU SAY, FOR INSTANCE, TO YOUR EXAMPLE, CA ACAT METRO WOULD BE THE VEHICLE LEAD, HOW WOULD THAT PLAY OUT IN YOUR MIND? UH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE.

WELL, MEANING CAP, METRO'S OBVIOUSLY A TRANS AGENCY.

SO, SO IN ONE WAY, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE PURPOSELY, AND I DID THIS BECAUSE OF SPEED OF EXECUTION.

DAVE COOPER CHECKS GROUP IS, IS IN ATP AND A NORMAL TRANSIT EXPANSION PROGRAM.

ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS WORKING IN DAVE'S GROUP ARE ALREADY PART OF THE TRANSIT AGENCY.

SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS BRING THEM INTO ATP TO START OFF WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH DAVE

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AND THEN WHEN THOSE VEHICLES START TO GET DELIVERED, TRANSFER THEM OVER TO CAB METRO BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY'RE THE VEHICLE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND DO ALL THE TESTING ACCEPTANCE AND BUILD A NEW MAINTENANCE PROCESS FOR THOSE VEHICLES.

SO, SO WE COULD HAVE JUST PUT THEM IN CAP METRO AND SAID, CAP METRO IS JUST DRIVING A TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION TO ATP TO IMPLEMENT, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER FROM A PROGRAM INTEGRATION POINT OF VIEW, BRINGING PEOPLE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THAT WAY, JUST IN THIS FIRST FEW YEARS OF THE PROGRAM, THAT WAS AT LEAST THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND WHETHER THAT WAS THE PERFECT DECISION OR NOT, WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON HOW DO WE GET THE MOST COLLABORATION AND INTEGRATION BECAUSE ALL THESE THINGS WORK TOGETHER.

SO I GUESS I'M NOT CLEAR WITH RESPECT TO THE VEHICLES YOU USE SAYING THAT ATP WOULD BE THE LEAD ENTITY THAT WOULD DECIDE WHAT ROLLING STOCK WE PICK OR HOW, WHETHER WE HAVE AIR CONDITIONED STATIONS ARE NOT AIR CONDITIONED STATION.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH, I GUESS WHEN YOU MEAN ATP, DO YOU MEAN ATP BOARD OR STAFF BECAUSE THE CONTRACTS, SO I GUESS I THINK, I THINK AGAIN, WE KEEP AT LEAST, AND I'M TRYING TO DO MY BEST BOARD MEMBERS.

SO IF I'M NOT DOING THIS CORRECTLY, I APOLOGIZE.

I THINK WE HAVE DECISION-MAKING AND WE HAVE CONTRACT AUTHORITY AND THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO FROM A CONTRACT AUTHORITY, THIS BOARD IS CLEARLY IT'S MANAGING THE MONEY THAT THE TWO SPONSORS PUT IN AND THEN CAP MENTOR WILL BRING FOR THE FED AND MANAGING THE BANK.

YOU WILL HAVE CONTRACT AUTHORITY ON THIS DIOCESE TO ULTIMATELY ISSUE A CONTRACT TO A VEHICLE MANUFACTURER AND CIVIL CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS TO IMPLEMENT THE, THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS DECISION-MAKING THOUGH IS DIFFERENT THAN CONTRACTOR AUTHORITY.

I THINK WE NEED DECISION-MAKING THAT THEN DRIVES TO A CONTRACT AUTHORITY FOR ATP THEN TO GO IMPLEMENT.

SO IF WE DO THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, RIGHT, AND GET CONSENSUS TO DECISION-MAKING, THEN ATP FOR LACK OF BETTER IS OFF TO THE RACES TO OWN THE CONTRACTS, TO GO EFFECTUATE THE DECISIONS FOR THE NEXT 1, 2, 5, 8, 10 YEARS.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

SO WHEN WE SH WE NEED TO ISSUE A CONTRACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ULTIMATELY ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR.

SO SHOULDN'T, WE HAVE A SAY ALSO IN HOW WE SELECT THE VEHICLE MANUFACTURER.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE IF I'M NOT, WHAT AM I, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE CROSSING SWORDS.

THIS BOARD WILL ISSUE THAT CONTRACT.

SO THIS BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ISSUANCE OF THAT CONTRACT.

I THINK WE'RE AGAIN, SEPARATE STAFF ROLES, A LITTLE BIT FROM BOARD ROLES AND DECISION-MAKING FROM CONTRACT AUTHORITY.

SO FROM A STAFF POINT OF VIEW, OBVIOUSLY CAP METRO STAFF NEEDS TO BE STOPPED LIKE THAT.

METRO NEEDS TO SIGN OFF ON THE VEHICLES BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SAFETY DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO DO A SAFETY CERTIFICATION AND ACCEPT THEM.

AND THE OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT HAS TO ACTUALLY BRING THEM INTO THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND RUN THEM FROM AN ONM POINT OF VIEW.

SO WE CAN'T LIKE ATP, CAN'T SAY WE'RE BUYING X AND CAP WAS SAYING, NO, BECAUSE THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK KIND OF LIKE THE MULTIMODAL OR THE COMPLETE STREETS WHERE ATP, CAN'T SAY, WELL, WE'RE PUTTING UP TUNNEL PORTAL HERE AND WE'RE TAKING A LANE OF TRAFFIC AND THE CITY TEAM SAYS, NO, YOU'RE NOT.

SO AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO DECISION MAKING IS ALL OF US TOGETHER.

AND THAT LEADS TO DESIGN.

AND THEN ATP'S JOB IS TO RUN THE CONTRACTS, TO EFFECTUATE WHAT THE TEAM, THE PARTNERSHIP WANTS TO DELIVER.

THAT'S THE WAY, I MEAN, I, AND A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS ENVISIONED HOW THIS PROCESS WOULD, WOULD ROLL OUT.

SO THIS BOARD HAS THE DECISION-MAKING ON OWNING THE CONTRACT DECISIONS.

THAT'S NOT DEBATABLE.

SO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW COMPLICATED ALL OF THIS IS AND HOW IMPORTANT THE PARTNERSHIP IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VEHICLES, CERTAINLY CAP METRO HAS A ROLE IN THEM.

THEY'RE TAKING OVER OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THEM.

ATP IS PROCURING THEM.

THEY'LL OPERATE IN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY.

EVERYONE REALLY HAS TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND I THINK THAT THESE ARE JUST, TH THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW IMPORTANT THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE.

ARE YOU DOING THAT MAYOR? I WAS GOING TO SAY, AND ULTIMATELY THE DECISION OF, OF, OF WHICH VEHICLES OR WHICH, WHICH AMENITIES, UH, MAY VERY WELL IMPACT THE, THE SEQUENCING AND THE TIMING.

UH, AND, AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE, TO THE COLLECTIVE GROUP.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST HARD TO IMAGINE HARDLY ANYTHING ON HERE THAT DOESN'T EDIT HIGH LEVEL THRESHOLD AS WE KICK IT OFF, GONNA NEED EVERYBODY TO KIND OF RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS THE PROJECT.

WE ALL AGREE ON THAT.

AND, AND NOW ADP IS CHARGED WITH GOING OUT AND EXECUTING IT, BUT ALL THE DECISIONS I THINK, UM, MAY GIVE RISE TO THAT.

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE ALL THREE STAFFS HAVE THE ABILITY TO RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THIS PERSPECTIVE.

I'M NOT SURE, ULTIMATELY, TONY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DECISION AND THEN ADVICE.

CAUSE HOPEFULLY WE

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DON'T GET TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ALL LOOK AT THE TRADE-OFFS, WE COMPARE THEM AND THERE'S A PROJECT THAT COLLECTIVELY WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

WE'RE PARSING IT DOWN TO THAT LEVEL WHERE IT TROUBLES.

OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO DO HAT, YOU KNOW, THE LEARNING, THE ANALYSIS, THE TEAM DECISION-MAKING OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, HERE'S SOME SITE TOURS, HERE'S SOME ALIGNMENT TOWARDS HERE'S SOME PANEL EXPERTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

MAYBE I WOULD JUST ADD ON IT.

CAUSE I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.

UH, IF, IF WE GET TO THAT POINT AND CLEARLY WE HAVE LARGER PROGRAM ISSUES, UM, AND I'M CONVINCED THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO THAT POINT.

I THINK EVERYONE'S WORKING WELL TOGETHER.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS, I THINK THERE'S JUST THIS LITTLE BIT OF GRAY AREA BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEW, IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST NATURAL TO YOUR POINT.

I, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT GETTING THIS JOINT BUY-IN IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.

IT'S GOOD FOR THIS BOARD.

IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNCIL.

IT'S GOOD FOR CAP METRO BOARD AND ALL THE STAFFS FOR THE NEXT DECADE.

SO WE GET AWAY FROM INDIVIDUALS AND WE GET INTO WAY ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPORT.

WE ARE GOING TO NEED EVERYONE.

AND I SET THIS IN MY MEMO TO EVERYONE.

EVERYONE HAS GOING TO HAVE TO ROW IN THE SAME DIRECTION TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

AND WE CAN'T HAVE ONE OF THE THREE BODIES IN YEAR, FOUR POINT FINGERS AND SAY, WELL, I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT.

YOU'RE DOING THAT WRONG.

WE NEED DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO HELP SUPPORT ON THE FEDERAL STUFF.

WE NEED PEOPLE TO HELP ON THAT CON UH, CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED STUFF ON HOW TO BUILD A WORKFORCE AND DBE.

WE NEED EVERYONE TO BE BEHIND THIS THING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

YEAH, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE THE, THE SILVER BULLET OF UNDERSTANDING HOW WE WERE ALL SHAREHOLDERS, EVERY SINGLE TAXPAYER IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S A SHAREHOLDER, YOU KNOW, WE'D TALK ABOUT STAKEHOLDERS AND SHAREHOLDERS AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ENTITIES OWNING, OWNING THIS PROGRAM.

AND THERE, THE CLARITY THAT I BELIEVE WOULD BENEFIT THE STAFF.

THAT'S REALLY IN THE TRENCHES WORKING THROUGH VERY COMPLEX ISSUES.

YOU KNOW, I JUST LIKE TO REALLY OFFER THAT WE'RE WHERE YOUR PARTNER REACH OUT.

WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU.

WE WANT TO BE YOUR, YOUR CHEERLEADER AND YOUR ADVOCATE AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT, WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.

SO DON'T, DON'T BE AFRAID TO REACH OUT AND YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND HELP FACILITATE A GOOD DIALOGUE.

UM, FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, IDEALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PERCENTAGES OF COMPLETION, A 30% TO ME, A LOT OF THE BIG DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

AND FROM 30% TO A HUNDRED PERCENT MEANS REFINEMENT, BUT MY GOAL WOULD NOT BE TO HAVE US AT 60% DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT 10% OR 5%.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M, I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE US ALL TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION SOON, OFTEN, RATHER THAN LATER, AND REALLY BE PART OF ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND HELPING FACILITATE WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I COULDN'T AGREE.

UM, WE CANNOT BE TWO YEARS FROM NOW AND TALKING ABOUT HOW LONG A TUNNEL IS GOING TO BE.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, THIS PROGRAM HAS GONE SIDEWAYS.

UM, AND, UH, I'M CONVINCED THAT WE WILL NOT BE THERE.

AND I THINK THE MAYOR SAID IT PROBABLY THE BEST, WHICH IS IF WE DO THE PROCESS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS CORRECTLY, WHICH IS REALLY MAKING SURE WE'RE BEING TRANSPARENT, DAYLIGHTING ISSUES, WORKING THROUGH THE COMPLEXITIES AND ESPECIALLY IN A TRI-PARTY WAY, THEN WE GET TO, I WOULD CALL ALMOST THE APPROVAL AS AFFIRMATION OF THE NEXT STEP TO THEN MOVE FORWARD.

SO WE MADE A DECISION, TWO BODIES MADE DECISION TO LET'S GO FORWARD AND DO THIS PROGRAM AND FUNDED A CERTAIN WAY.

NOW THREE BODIES SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE ROADMAP TO GET IT DONE.

AND THERE'S ONE OF THOSE BODIES THAT IS THE LEAD ON IMPLEMENTING AFTER.

AND I THINK IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT WAY, IT'S THE MOST PROBABLY WAY FOR SUCCESS.

UM, SO THIS CONVERSATION CHAIR, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD.

UM, I THINK SOME OF THIS CLARITY IS ACTUALLY NEEDED AT CAP METRO IN THE CITY COUNCIL TOO, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING SIMILAR FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS.

RIGHT.

AND, UM, AND I THINK THE MORE WE CAN TALK ABOUT ROLES, RESPONSIBILITY, ORGANICALLY, NOT ACTUALLY IN SILOS AND BOXES, IT'S ACTUALLY HELPFUL.

SO IT'S PART OF AGAIN, PROCESS ORIENTED.

UM, WOULD IT BE FAIR THAT THE BOARD IS SAYING THAT A YOU'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD FOR A JOINT MEETING? UM, AND I KNOW MAYOR AND CHAIR, YOU'VE MET WITH THE CAP METRO BOARD CHAIR, UM, BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE, THE STAFF WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET ON THAT.

UM, AND TO GET THAT SCHEDULED.

AND NORMALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THESE HISTORICALLY IS WE FIND, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR SCHEDULE A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE, AND THEN WE JUST GET A PLACEHOLDER OUT, KIND OF LIKE SAVE THE DATE FOR A WEDDING, PUT IT ON PEOPLE'S CALENDAR.

AND THEN SOMETIMES IT'S TWO OF THEM.

CAUSE THEN WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO AND JUST TRY TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

AND I THINK WE'VE GOT TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE'S 17 PEOPLE AND SOME OF THESE MEETINGS, WE MIGHT GET 13 AND THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM.

IT'S JUST INFORMATIONAL.

AND SOME PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN NON.

AND IF YOU'RE OKAY AND I THINK MAYOR, YOU SAID THIS, THEN THE STAFF COULD WORK TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER A SCHEDULE.

AND IT GOES TO WHAT DR.

BURNETT SAID, KIND OF A FLOW CHART.

THIS SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, BROKEN UP, BROKEN APART TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE PROPOSE

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HERE'S SOME JOINT WORKSHOPS ON SPECIAL TOPICS.

AND HERE'S HOW WE SEE THAT EVOLVING OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE.

IS THAT, IS THAT, AM I INFERRING THAT FROM THE BOARD? OR AM I, I DON'T WANT TO MISREPRESENT, I'M JUST TRYING TO SUMMARIZE IT ALL TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE US FORWARD.

WELL, I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT SEGUE.

WHAT I LIKE, WHAT I LIKE TO RECOMMEND FOR MY COLLEAGUES IS WHY DON'T WE SET UP? UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, AT THE, AT THE CLOSURE OF LAST YEAR OF HOW DO WE SET UP THE YEAR, THE AGENDAS FOR THE YEAR? SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO SET UP A COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD TO HELP US DELINEATE WHAT THIS YEAR LOOKS LIKE.

AND HOW DO WE SET UP QUARTERLY BY, YOU KNOW, BY YEARLY JOINT MEETINGS? I THINK TOO, TO YOUR POINT OF HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO SCHEDULE 17 BODIES, UH, A LOT OF DECISION-MAKING FOLKS I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, AND PLEASE ANYBODY THAT'S HERE, PRECEDENT, IF YOU LIKE TO HELP US SET UP THIS AGENDA FOR THE YEAR, UM, THIS BRINGS THAT CLARITY, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT COULD HELP SET UP THIS ROADMAP.

AND THEN WITH THAT ROADMAP OF, YOU KNOW, DELINEATE, WHAT ARE THE BIG DECISION POINTS FOR THE YEAR, THEN LET'S WORK TOGETHER IN SETTING UP WHAT'S THE AGENDA PER MEETING FOR THIS ROADMAP? MY, MY HESITATION FOR HAVING SUCH A LARGE JOINT MEETING IN FEBRUARY, AS I'VE TOLD YOU SINCE DAY ONE, IS THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A GOVERNANCE ANALYSIS THAT ALSO HAS A TOWN CALL IN FEBRUARY THAT I'M CONCERNED TO HAVE STAFF SCRAMBLES TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.

SO MY GOAL WOULD HAVE TO GIVE STAFF SUFFICIENT TIME TO DO THIS RIGHT, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL ALL THE BODIES TOGETHER, LET'S USE THEIR TIME WISELY.

SO THAT'S THING NUMBER WANTS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO DELINEATE THE YEAR, WHAT DOES THIS YEAR LOOK LIKE FOR ALL OF US SO THAT WHEN WE CAN SET UP, THIS IS A MILESTONE AT SIX MONTHS AND IT'S TOO LATE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION FOR 30%, THERE WAS RECORD OF DECISION, LESLIE, LESLIE, OUT THAT YEAR.

SO WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN HAVING THIS, UH, COMMITTEE TO SET UP THE YEAR FOR THE AGENDA? COULD I ASK YOU HOW YOU WOULD JUST SO, CAUSE AGAIN, HOW WE WORK THROUGH THIS IS HOW DO WE BRING THE OTHER TWO BAR PARTNERS IN, BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST TALKED A LOT ABOUT, WE NEED ALL THREE PARTNERS TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF HOW WE, WE SATP NEED TO FIRST SET UP OUR YEAR AND SET UP HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND THEN IDENTIFY WITH STAFF'S INPUT.

HOW DO WE THEN INVOLVE THE CITY AT THIS KEY DECISION POINT? HOW DO WE INVOLVE CAPITAL METRO TOGETHER? BUT WE AS A BOARD I THINK NEED TO FIRST DELINEATE OUR YEAR AND YOU KNOW, I WELCOME THE COMMENTS OF MY, OF MY COLLEAGUES.

WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK MAYOR? I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT CAP METRO MIGHT WANT TO SET UP ITS OWN MEETINGS AND THEN INVITE US TO PARTICIPATE.

UH, AND BY THAT, I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE THAT ANYBODY OWNS KIND OF THE, THE OVERALL PROCESS.

MY, MY SENSE WOULD BE THAT WE WANT ALL THREE STAFFS TO SIT DOWN WITH EACH OTHER, EACH FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, EACH WITH THEIR SENSITIVITIES AS TO WHAT KIND OF DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE AT WHAT POINT IN TIME EACH WORKING OUT COLLECTIVELY WHEN IT IS AT 30% DRAWINGS NEED TO BE DONE OR NOT DONE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ATP STAFF GOING OFF KIND OF BY THEMSELVES, BUT HAVING ALL THREE STAFFS GET TOGETHER WITH EACH OTHER AND ALL THREE STAFFS, BRING US BACK WHAT THE, WHAT THE CALENDAR LOOKS LIKE, UH, WHAT POINT, WHAT DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY USE THE REASONABLE EXPECTATION TO ASK STAFF TO DO THAT IN FEBRUARY, WHICH IS WHY I HAD SUGGESTED THAT ALL THAT WE ASKED FOR THEM IN FEBRUARY, IT'S JUST AN IDENTIFICATION OF ISSUES.

UH, AND THEN, UH, THEN HAVING UNDERSTOOD THOSE ISSUES, THEN HOW DO WE RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES? BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM, FROM, UH, NIKI WHO'S ON HERE TOO, AND FROM GINA AS WELL FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WHAT THEY THINK THEY COULD DO OR HOW THAT MIGHT PROCEED.

MS. BURDETTE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, TO JOIN IN? I SEE YOUR PHOTO.

I SEE YOUR VIDEO.

I'M HERE.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? DO I HAVE TO TELL LOUD, LIKE BEFORE

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EVERYTHING GOOD? OKAY.

UM, YEAH, I MEAN, THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION AND THE COMMENTS.

UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, OF WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF US AS, AS GINA POINTED OUT, IT'S EXTREMELY COMPLICATED, BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN, UM, ITEMS THAT THE STAFFS OF THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS DEFINITELY COULD BE PREPARED TO START DAYLIGHTING, UM, WITH THE BOARD.

FOR SURE.

I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD WELCOME.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE SCOPE AND, UM, AND HOW, AND HOW OFTEN AS, AS WE PUT THE ROADMAP, THAT ROADMAP THAT WAS SUGGESTED, UM, BY BOARD MEMBER, UM, PIERCE IS, UH, I THINK WE DEFINITELY CAN DO THAT AND THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SO IF I, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SO IF WE HAVE A JOINT MEETING IN FEBRUARY, THE GOAL OF, OR THE AGENDA FOR THAT MEETING COULD BE RE THE, THE ROADMAP AND THE DECISION-MAKING MILESTONES THAT WE NEED TO ACHIEVE TOGETHER.

JUST LIKE THE BUCKET OF LISTS OF DISCUSSIONS.

IS THAT HOW YOU, WHAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST MS. BUDDHA? YEAH, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.

WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND CIRCLE BACK WITH THE STAFF.

THERE'S AN ECHO.

I APOLOGIZE.

UM, ON THE FEBRUARY IS COMING UP PRETTY QUICKLY.

UH, SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME, BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT THE SUBJECTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THE FOCUS SHOULD BE SURE I WOULD, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD SAY WE, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, I'LL JUST BE HONEST, A SENSE OF URGENCY IN THE SENSE OF, UM, I DON'T THINK A QUARTERLY MEETING IS GOING TO, I, I THINK THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE NEED THREE JOINT WORK SESSIONS, IF NOT FOUR, BETWEEN NOW AND MID SUMMER AND PROBABLY MULTIPLE ROAD TRIPS AND EXPERT PANELS.

I MEAN, THE GRA, THE GRAVITY OF THESE DECISIONS ARE BIG.

AND WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY AS A COMMUNITY THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT ESPECIALLY HAS NEVER DONE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO GET DAYLIGHT IT AND TALK THROUGH THE COMPLEXITY.

AND AS YOU SAID, INTERDEPENDENCIES OF THESE ISSUES, UM, AND SO IF THE THREE PARTIES DON'T WANT TO GET TOGETHER UNTIL MARCH THAT LIKE, THAT'S FINE.

I THINK STAFF HAS PREPARED TO GET READY.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING, UH, IN FEBRUARY AND FEBRUARY, THAT LEADS TO AN OPTION OPTIONALITY IN MARCH, WHICH WHETHER IT COULD BE A TRIP OR ANOTHER PANEL, IT LEADS TO OPTIONALITY IN APRIL AND MAY.

UM, I JUST THINK AS A GROUP, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT A LOT OF ELBOW AND A LOT OF SHOULDER TO THIS OVER THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS.

UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY MAKE DECISIONS IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY THAT LEAD TO STAYING ON PROGRAM SCHEDULE.

BARNETT.

SO TWO THINGS I SAW THAT MAKES ME WHAT RANDY JUST SAID, AND ALSO WHAT A NICK SAID, THAT THAT MAKES ME REEMPHASIZE TAKING IT OUT OF PEOPLE'S HEADS AND PUTTING IT DOWN ON PAPER.

THERE'S A PROJECT PLAN.

SO OVERLAYING THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITIES AND INFLECTION POINTS POINTS TO MAKE DECISIONS, POINTS OF ACTION WITH, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE A FLOW CHART, UM, THAT CAN BE HELPFUL.

AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE, THE, THE HEIGHTENED SENSE OF URGENT, CAUSE WE ALL HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

NOTICE I WANT THAT NOTED THAT I SAID PROGRAM RANDY, NOT PROJECT SO THAT WE HAVE, UM, SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROBE.

SO WE HAVE THAT HEIGHTENED SENSE OF URGENCY SO THAT WE'RE WATCHING, UM, AND THAT WE'RE DOING IT.

WELL, THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS THAT WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF A GLOSSARY.

UM, RANDY HAS SAID THIS ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION ABOUT COMMON LANGUAGE.

UH, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

SOMETHING THAT WE BUILD OVER TIME, THAT'S A GLOSSARY AROUND THE PROGRAM.

UM, SO THAT WE'RE ALL SINGING FROM THE SAME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL SINGING FROM THE SAME HYMNAL.

THANKS PAUL.

WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT KIND OF, I THINK IT WAS DECEMBER, TO BE HONEST, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT MONTH OF HOW TO HAVE A COMMON GLOSSARY FOR EVERYONE.

AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY SIGNIFICANTLY GOING FORWARD.

WE'RE A VERY ACRONYM DRIVEN INDUSTRY AND WE WANT TO KIND OF HUMAN EYES, OUR, OUR, OUR REGULATIONS, OUR PROCESS IN TERMS FOR EVERYONE.

ADD TO THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, HAVING THEM WEIGH IN ON WHAT'S BEST PRACTICE ON HOW DECISIONS SHOULD GET MADE? UM, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

AND REMEMBER, IT'S JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT.

UM, HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT HAVING EMAILS

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I MEAN, YOU MEAN AT THIS, UH, AT THE JOINT MEETING OR BECAUSE IT, THAT, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE REPORT.

THAT'S PART OF THEIR SCOPE, IF THAT'S PART OF THEIR SCOPE AND THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THEIR PERSPECTIVE IS.

UM, SO IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ANYBODY LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR THE PROCESS HERE.

I THINK IT WAS GOOD OPEN, GOOD CONVERSATION.

UH, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS AS MARCHING ORDERS TO GINA.

AND I THINK I HAVE A MEETING ON THE BOOKS NEXT WEEK.

ANYWAY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS.

I THINK WE WANT TO GET A FACILITATOR TO HELP THROUGH THIS MEETING AS WELL.

UH I'D LIKE THAT.

SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT ME LEADING THIS MEETING IF THAT'S ACTUALLY HEALTHY FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING ME.

UM, AND WE KIND OF GROUND THIS WHOLE PROCESS OUT.

IT BRINGS A LOT OF CLARITY.

IT'S ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

NOT THAT WE'RE NOT, BY THE WAY, IT JUST REINFORCES THE DIRECTION AND SOME CLARITY.

AND I THINK WE CAN ALSO BE PREPARED.

I THINK WE DO THIS FRONT END PIECE, MAYBE I DO THIS PIECE AND THEN WE CAN DO THE, UM, THE, THE BUCKETS THAT THE MAYOR SAID.

AND WE WORKED THROUGH THAT.

WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO DO THAT, BUT WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE BEEN WORKING, TALKING ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN THIRD HERE IS KIND OF A PATH FORWARD AND KIND OF THE FLOW CHART AND DECISIONS AND A PROPOSED WAY TO, TO HAVE EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

UM, I THINK WE GET PREPARED TO DO A REALLY GOOD MEETING, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY ON THAT I THINK ON THAT, I THINK WE'RE FEBRUARY 18TH IS THE DAY WE WERE, WE'RE HOPING, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL RECONFIRM WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE AND, AND SEE AND SEE WHAT COULD HAPPEN, BUT I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THIS SAME CONVERSATION WITH, UM, CAP METRO AND THE CITY, AND JUST GROUNDING EVERYONE TO, UH, THE CLARITY OF THE PROGRAM.

GREAT.

UM, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER COMMENT, ANY CLOSING REMARKS FROM ANYONE? NO.

WELL, WE MAY BE OUT OF HERE BEFORE SIX BY A FEW MINUTES, THEN DIGS IN.

RIGHT.

SO, WELL, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE AND WONDERFUL WISDOM.

THIS CONCLUDES THE DECEMBER ATP BOARD MEETING AGENDA.

I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD AND STAFF AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE WATCHED AND PARTICIPATED TODAY.

AND WE INVITE YOU TO CONTINUE TO STAY ENGAGE.

AND THE TIME IS 5 57.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.