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THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.UH, I WILL CALL IN TO ORDER THE MS. BARRIENTOS MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER ADVISORY BOARD SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 26TH, 2022 HOURS, SIX 10.
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UH, I WILL BEGIN WITH, UM, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION HERE TODAY.WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE PRESENT AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ONE PERSON ON THE PHONE.
UH, WE WILL, UH, BEGIN WITH LEONARD DAVILA, WHICH ADDRESSES I'M SORRY.
NOW, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY, HEY, THE DESIGN ON THIS THING IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT MY CONCERNS ARE IS WHAT ACCOMMODATIONS DOES THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PLAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUCCESSFUL TO THE SUCCESS? UH, TWO LARGE OUTDOOR EVENTS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE, THE EVENTS THAT, UH, LIKE MEXICAN AMERICAN EXPERIENCE AND, UH, MAY AS ARTISTS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S THREE, I THROW ON DANCE GROUPS, ET CETERA, BECAUSE THE WAY, THE WAY THE, THE DESIGN SEEMS TO BE IS THAT, UM, IT, IT, IT LIKE CUTS WILL CUT DOWN ON PARTICIPATION BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE IS LIKE, UM, IT SEEMS THAT ON THE, ON THE SOCA LAW, THAT THERE WILL BE TREES IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT AND WHICH, YOU KNOW, DANCES AND PEOPLE SIT OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, ENJOYING, YOU KNOW, THE THREE APPLES AT THE, AT THOSE GROUPS HAVE, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S CUTTING INTO THE, INTO THE SPACE, THE, THE, UM, SO, UH, AND THEN, UM, YEAH, AND TH THE TREES, AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION THAT WERE, WILL THE BETTER RAMOS STATUTES BE PLACED SINCE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE AT THE END OF THE SO-CALLED, WHICHEVER DANLEY WILL BE CUT DOWN.
AND, UM, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF ANY OF THE ARCHITECTS THAT WENT, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THEY DID A GOOD JOB ON THAT, BUT DID THEY, WERE THEY AWARE OF HOW THE MAC IS BEING USED? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT, TO ME, IT'S NOT USER-FRIENDLY FOR THE VETS.
AND, AND THEN, UM, I NOTICED THAT ON THIS, ON THIS, UH, DESIGN THAT, THAT I GOT ON EMAIL THAT, UM, THERE SEEMS NOT TO BE THE CIRCLE THERE IN FRONT, BECAUSE THE WAY IT SEEMS HERE IS LIKE THEY HAVE PLANNERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT ALONG, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S USUALLY WHERE THE ELDERLY COME BY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK A LONG DISTANCE.
AND LIKE, IN OUR EVENTS, WE'VE HAD, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, UH, SHUTTLES TO TAKE PEOPLE.
AND IT, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM FRIENDLY TO USER-FRIENDLY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ANOTHER THING IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HEIDI, WE HAD, WE HAD HAD A MEETING BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS APRIL OUTDOOR.
WE HAD GONE AND TOOK A WALK THROUGH AND, AND I ASKED HER IF THE DESIGN THAT THEY HAVE WAS A DONE DEAL.
AND SHE SAID, NO, NO, THERE'S STILL ROOM FOR COOPERATION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, IT WAS A DONE DEAL.
CAUSE THE END OF THE, IT HADN'T CHANGED ANYTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOING EVENTS THERE AT THE MAC, UH, I DID AN EVENT CALLED THE MEXICAN-AMERICAN EXPERIENCE AND, UH, THEY ASKED ME ARE LARGE CROWDS GOING TO COME.
AND THEY ASKED ME, CAN YOU GUARANTEE THAT LARGE CROWDS WILL BE HERE? AND I SAID, YEAH, I CAN GUARANTEE IT.
WELL, THE FIRST, UH, THE FIRST ONE WE HAD, WE, WE HAD LIKE, RIGHT.
LEONARD, I THINK THAT'S YOUR TIME.
UH, COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY QUICKLY WHAT YOU MEANT BY THE ROUND ENTRANCES? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MAIN ENTRY I CIRCLED THERE AND THE MAIN ENTRY AND THE WAY IT SEEMED LIKE HERE ON THE, UH, ON THE PRINTOUT THAT I GOT IS THAT, UH, THERE, THERE WON'T BE, IT SEEMED LIKE, I MEAN, I SEE TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN FRONT OF THEM.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THAT'S FOR THE ELDERLY, I MEAN, FOR KIDS.
I MEAN, WE CAN DO IT, BUT FOR THE ELDERLY AND WELL, W W WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN TEAM HAS THAT.
WE'LL ASK THAT QUESTION, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ADDRESS IT.
UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CITIZENS' COMMUNICATION.
UM, WE HAVE A, UM, I'M SORRY, UH, LEONARD DAVI LEFT WITH IT.
LARRY A MOTTO IF, UH, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
AND IF YOU THE BUTTON RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
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YOU, DAVID.UH, FIRST OF ALL, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I NOTICED THAT, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY DESIGNS COMMISSION, UH, MIGHT HAVE, UH, APPROVED OF THIS DESIGN BEFORE THE MAC HAS HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO, UH, EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, WHAT, UH, THE DESIGN IS AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN CAN DO TO, TO ADD TO IT OR SUBTRACT FROM IT.
AND THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THIS IS NOT, UH, DUE PROCESS BECAUSE, UH, BEFORE ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSION, UM, UH, OR, OR ENTITY OF THE CITY, UH, WHATEVER, UH, I THINK THE MAC, UH, SHOULD HAVE THAT FIRST PERSON HAD TO, TO GET TO THE COMMUNITY'S, UH, APPROVAL FIRST BEFORE THE MAC, AND THEN ANY OTHER, UH, COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION GOING UP THE LADDER SO THAT CITIZENS CAN, CAN FOLLOW THAT LADDER, UH, AND, AND GIVE THEIR, THEIR COMMENTS AND APPROVAL AS WELL.
SO TH THAT'S THE FIRST THING BEFORE I MAKE A COMMENT ON THE DESIGN.
UM, THE, UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME WE MET, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT NOT HAVING, UH, ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE SOME VALID REASONS, UH, THIS COVID, UH, VIRUS HAS GONE ALL OVER THE WORLD.
WE KNOW WHAT IT'S DONE, WE KNOW WHAT HAS DONE LOCALLY.
UH, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY, TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND BE AMONGST THE COMMUNITY AND GET THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, TO SAY THAT WELL, UH, WE, WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE OF COVID WITHIN, WE CAN'T GO THROUGH WITH THIS, WITH THIS, UH, UH, THE PROCESS, UH, THE PHASE TWO, AND THAT SHOULD BE DELAYED.
I THINK THAT THIS BOARD SHOULD DELAY ITS VOTING, UH, ON, ON THIS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND GET THAT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BECAUSE THAT IS VERY, UH, FUNDAMENTAL TO DEMOCRACY ITSELF.
AND THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT HERE.
UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITY CENTERS, UH, IN EAST AUSTIN, SOUTH AUSTIN, SOUTHEAST AUSTIN THAT WE, WE CAN GO TO MEET RIGHT NOW ON THE DESIGN ITSELF.
UH, I ALSO WANT TO ECHO WITH WHAT, UH, MR. DOBBY LES SAID, IN TERMS OF THE OUTDOOR PLAZA AREA THAT, UH, WE, AND, AND HIS, HE SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED HIS, UH, BIG TIME, BIG EVENTS, WHICH ARE THE BIGGEST EVENTS THAT HAVE EVER HAPPENED THERE AT THE MAC.
AND I WANT TO COMMEND HIM AND HIS, HIS, UH, UH, ASSOCIATES WE'RE DOING THAT.
AND, UH, TO HAVE THAT BIG, A CROWD THAT FILLED UP THE PLAZA, WE NEEDED MORE ROOM.
WE SAW THAT WE NEEDED MORE PARKING.
AND, AND, UH, WE, WE GAVE OUR CONCERNS BACK IN 2018 AND, UH, I'M OUT OF TIME JUST, UH, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT HE SAID AS WELL.
UM, WELL, CONTINUE GOING AND THEN WE'LL LET THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN THE BOARD WILL KIND OF HAVE DISCUSSIONS AFTER, UM, MR. MARIO CAMPUS, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING? UM, UM, PLEASE, EXCUSE ME.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME EVER ATTENDING ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
UM, I HAVEN'T REALLY GOT TO EXPERIENCE THE MACK CENTER, LIKE I WANT IT TO, BECAUSE OF COVID AND, UM, SO EVERYTHING, ALL THE DESIGN, EVERYTHING LOOKS AMAZING TO ME.
I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR OUR PEOPLE.
UH, I HOPE WITH PHASE TWO, WE CAN SEE MORE MENTORSHIP WITH CONNECTING WITH OUR PEOPLE AND OUR YOUTH, UM, TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE COMPETENCE THAT THEY COULD UTILIZE IN THE FUTURE.
I NOTICED THAT WE HAVE A SPACE WHERE WE CAN COME AND EXPRESS OURSELVES FREELY WITHOUT ANY JUDGMENT, BUT WHAT COMES AFTER THAT? WHAT DO WE TAKE THAT? AND HOW CAN WE TRULY OBTAIN ANY TIME TYPE OF GENERATIONAL WEALTH? THAT'S RIGHT.
CREATING WEALTH FOR OUR GENERATIONS TO COME WITH US ALREADY, HAVING OUR HANDS IN ART IN OUR CITY, AUSTIN, TEXAS BEING THE NUMBER ONE TECH HUB IN AMERICA.
I FIGURED WHY NOT COMBINE THE TWO AND EDUCATE OUR PEOPLE ON THE USE OF NOT ONLY ART, BUT THE USE OF TECH AS WELL.
I LOVE TO SEE OUR ART THAT WE TAKE SO MUCH PRIDE IN BUILD RESIDUAL INCOME FOR THOSE TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES THROUGH THE USE OF DIGITAL ART, DIGITAL CURRENCIES, AND DIGITAL PLATFORMS. LET'S PREPARE OUR PEOPLE FOR EXACTLY WHAT THIS PLACE THE MAC HAS TO OFFER TO ME.
THAT'S ENTREPRENEURSHIP OWNERSHIP AND INVESTING.
I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A COWORKING SPACE FOR SMALL STARTUP BUSINESSES, ENTREPRENEURS, AND CONSULTANTS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
IN OTHER WORDS, A CULTURAL, INTELLECTUAL, ECONOMIC HOPE FOR OUR PEOPLE AS THE MAX CENTER FOCUSES ON EVENTS, CURRICULUM, AND CREATING A SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT IS SPECIFIC TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES ZONES AND GET WITH INVESTORS THAT WOULD LOVE TO HELP PRESERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.
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LET'S EDUCATE OURSELVES ON FINANCIAL LITERACY.SO NOT ONLY HOW TO MAKE MONEY, BUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
WHEN YOU OBTAIN IT, LET'S ACQUIRE AND DEVELOP REAL ESTATE PROGRAMS. LET'S UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF GROUP ECONOMICS AND COLLECTIVE INVESTMENTS.
LET'S EDUCATE OUR PEOPLE ON REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND HOW TO BECOME INVESTORS.
LET'S EDUCATE THESE KIDS ON HOW TO BUILD COMPUTERS, THEN USE THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND HOW TO BUILD SKILLS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BENEFIT THEIR FUTURES.
TECHNOLOGY HAS ADVANCED AND SOLD AS THE WAY WE OPERATE.
THERE'S A NEW SYSTEM BEING BUILT IN FRONT OF OURS AND EDUCATION REFORM THAT WE COULD BE A PART OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS HAVE FAILED US IN OUR CHILDREN, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T EDUCATE OURSELVES ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND US TO BE A PART OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE STRUCTURE.
LET'S CREATE CULTIVATE AND CREATE THIS COMMUNITY.
AND AS THE LATE GREAT NIPSEY HUSSLE WOULD SAY, THE MARATHON CONTINUES PEACE.
UM, VERY WELL-SPOKEN AND WELCOME.
YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO ATTEND OUR MEETINGS AND WE CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ALWAYS PARTICIPATE AND BE EDUCATED.
WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE COVID LIKE, UH, MR. AMATO HAD SHARED, BUT WE CERTAINLY DO, UH, WELCOME YOU.
AND WE'RE VERY GLAD AND HONORED TO HAVE YOU HERE WITH US.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE, UM, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION ON THE PHONE.
DO WE HAVE, UH, FRANCISCO SALLY'S ON THE CALL? YEP.
ALL RIGHT, FRANCISCO, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY MY NAME IS FITNESS QUARTER SALAD.
UH, I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE CHAIR OF THE LATINOS AND ARCHITECTURE COMMITTEE AT, UH, AI AUSTIN THIS YEAR.
UM, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, OUR COMMITTEE HAS HAD A LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIP, UH, WITH THE MAC THROUGH EVENTS, SUCH AS AND, UH, , UH, ART INSTALLATION RECENTLY WENT UP.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO REFRESHING TO SEE THAT, UH, SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP WITHIN OUR DESIGN COMMUNITY IS REPRESENTED ON THE ADVISORY BOARD OF THE MAC.
UM, SO ON BEHALF OF LEAH LATINOS AND ARCHITECTURE, UH, WE WANT TO COMMEND THE WORK OF THE JOINT VENTURE ARCHITECTURE TEAM, UM, AND THE MAC EXPANSION.
UM, BUT I'LL ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE TO PUSH, UM, THAT THE, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS, IS, IS AT THE FOREFRONT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PLACE THAT MANY OF US, UM, ARE, ARE TRUE, UM, PASSIONATELY ABOUT AS FAR AS SPACE THAT FEELS, UH, COMFORTING PERSON IN THE SPACE FOR ME IS BROUGHT GREAT COMFORT, KNOWING THAT, UH, IT'S A PLACE THAT CELEBRATES OUR HERITAGE AND MANY OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, SO I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, TO TRULY CREATE AN AUTHENTIC SPACE.
UM, AND REALLY, I WANT US ALSO TO SHARE THAT IF WE CAN BE OF ANY ASSISTANCE, WE, UH, UH, PLEASE COUNT ON US AND ITS MEMBERSHIP WE'RE OPEN AND WILLING TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF LEADING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS, UM, WORKSHOPS, REPRESENTATION, WHATEVER THAT CASE MAY BE.
UH, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT AS FAR AS ONE OF OUR GOALS FOR THIS YEAR AND OUR ORGANIZATION.
UM, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANY COLLABORATIONS THAT COME ABOUT THIS YEAR.
UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALSO BEFORE ME ON THIS CALL OR FOR ME ON THIS CALL.
UM, SO YEAH, THANK YOU AGAIN, LIKE YOU FRANSISCO.
I BELIEVE THAT IS THE LAST CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
[1a. Presentation by Heidi Tse, Project Manager and the joint venture of Miro Rivera Architects and Tatiana Bilbao Studios on the Schematic Design for Phase 2.]
WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE INTO THE FIRST ITEM OF OUR SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ITEM ONE PRESENTATIONS, ONE, A PRESENTATION BY HEIDI C PROJECT MANAGER IN THE JOINT VENTURE OF NEURO RIVERA, ARCHITECTS IN TATIANA BILBAO STUDIOS ON THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE TWO.HEIDI, ARE YOU AND YOUR TEAM READY? YES, WE ARE.
UH, WE ARE HAPPY TO PRESENT THE SCHEMATIC DESIGNS, UH, AFTER GOING THROUGH A SERIES OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH, UM, THE TOTAL OF NINE MEETINGS IN THE PROGRAMMING AND EIGHT MEETINGS FOR THIS PHASE TWO PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE HERE AND I'M NOT ABLE TO SEE EVERYBODY, BUT, UM, I SEE THAT JUAN MIRO WITH, UH, UH, MURAL RIVERA ARCHITECTS, WHICH IS ONE HALF OF THE JV, THE JOINT VENTURE TEAM, AMIR OVER THERE AND TATIANA BILBAO, UH, THEY'RE HERE TO SPEAK.
AND, UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THE MIC TO THEM AND LET THEM GET STARTED.
WHY DON'T WE GO? CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY, GREAT.
WE'RE IN THE SAME PLACE WHERE WE'RE WE'RE FAMILY MONEY SO WE CAN BE TOGETHER.
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MARIANA IS ALSO ON THE CALL FROM THE DENTIST'S OFFICE FROM MEXICO.UH, UH, IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE WE TALKED TO, UH, THE ADVISORY BOARD.
WE'RE HAPPY TO BE BACK AND TALKING TO YOU.
AND I THINK SO, UH, FOR SOME OF THE, UH, PREVIOUS COMMUNITY, WE CAN ADDRESS THEIR QUESTIONS.
UH, LATER WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH THE PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK JUST, UH, FOR INFORMATION, THIS, THIS MEETING WAS SCHEDULED FOR LAST WEEK BEFORE THE TWO MEETINGS WE'VE HAD, UH, MONDAY AND TUESDAY.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE TOO.
IT SAID, UH, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, FOR THE LAST 13 MONTHS WORKING ON THE PROGRAMMING AND , I MEAN, WE, WE, WE'VE BEEN ALREADY A YEAR AND THREE MONTHS ON THIS PROCESS.
WE HAVE, UM, THE PERSON FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH, UH, WE CONTINUE TO HEAR THAT IT'S NOT BEEN ENOUGH.
IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS.
UH, THERE WAS CONSULTANTS INVOLVED.
UH, BOBBY HAS BEEN A CONSULTANT PLUS THE CONSULTANT FROM THE CITY OR STAFF FROM THE CITY OF REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE CONTINUE TO, TO, TO, UH, EMBRACE THOSE, THOSE MEETINGS.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS HAS BEEN, UH, TO SOME DEGREE DELAY, UH, THE PROJECT, UM, UH, TO ALLOW FOR MORE OF THIS, UH, COMMUNITY AND ENGAGEMENT, UH, SINCE THEN, UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
UH, WE HAVE TAKEN THE PROGRAMMING IDEAS, UM, BRINGING THOSE TWO, UH, UH, THREE-DIMENSIONAL, UH, CONCEPTS AND, AND YOU ARE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH, WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
AND ONE OF THOSE IS, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE, WE ARE TRYING TO CONTINUE WITH THE ORIENTAL CONCEPT FROM THE BUILDING FROM , WHICH IS TO CONTINUE THE, THE CIRCULAR, UH, PART OF THE BUILDING THAT HAVE CIRCLE.
AND, UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
YOU CAN SEE IN HERE THAT THE TWO, THE TWO ADDITION, ANOTHER THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO, UM, HAVE, UH, CONTROL OF THE SOKOLOW AS RAINY STREET AND ALL THIS AREA CONTINUED TO GROW WITH MORE TOWER RESIDENTIAL TOWER, MORE, UH, RESTAURANTS, BARS, AND SO ON.
UH, IT IS VERY HARD FOR THE MAC TO, UH, HAVE EVENTS IN THE, IN THE SOKOLOW, UH, IN FACT, UH, AT THE END FOR, UH, I THINK IT WAS FOR MARIO TABULA THAT JUST SPOKE.
WE HAVE BEEN TO THE EVENTS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AT THE MC UH, AS RECENTLY IDEA THE PAST THE OTHER WAS MORTARS THAT WAS THERE.
AND IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, DESPITE WITH THE COVID, THERE WAS A BIG, BIG CROWD, AND YES, THERE IS A PROBLEM FOR PARKING THAT PARKING IS PART OF PHASE THREE IS NOT PART OF THIS PHASE RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE COMPLETING THAT AND WE ARE CONTROLLING THE ENTRIES, UH, OF THE SOCCER.
YOU SEE THESE GREEN POINTS WHERE WE ARE CONTROLLING THE POINTS WHEN THEY HAVE AN EVENT THEY CAN CONTROL.
AND WE ARE, UH, SEPARATING PART OF THE CIRCLE WITH THE, UH, LAKE LEVEL, UM, THAT WE GET MORE INTO THAT AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN CONTROL THE CROWDS.
IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS ANOTHER ANGLE WE ARE, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TWO WINGS, UH, UH, OF THE BUILDING, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SPACE THAT WE CREATE AND THE CURRAN SNAKE WILL, UH, STAY WHERE IT IS, BUT IT WILL BE KIND OF A VIEWING PLATFORM.
THE TRAIL WILL CONTINUE, UH, TO, TO, UM, UH, AS YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH THE LOCATION, VERY CLOSE THE LOCATION THAT IT, THAT IT IS.
AND, UM, AND WE WILL HAVE ACCESS FROM THIS LAKE LABOR UP TO THE SOKOLOW THAT THERE MIGHT CAN CONTROL.
YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT, I THINK THAT IS ONE THING THAT I WILL LIKE TO MENTION BEFORE WE GET INTO THE LANDSCAPE.
WELL, EVEN THESE DRAWING IS VERY EFFECTIVE IN SHOWING THAT THE BUILDING THAT THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECT DESIGN HAD A VERY STRONG FORM.
SO WE, WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO COMPLETE THE VISION OF TELL THEIR OWN SIDE OF THE LEON.
SO THE BUILDING WANTED TO COMPLETE ITSELF.
SO IT'S VERY, ALMOST INEVITABLE THAT WE HAD TO CONTINUE THAT SHAPE.
SO TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE PROGRAM, WE CREATED THE LAKE LEVEL TO ACCOMMODATE THE REST OF THE PROGRAM AND CONNECTING THE TWO ENDS OF THE BUILDING.
BUT THE GAIN IS THAT THE CIRCLE IS NOW FULLY CONTROLLABLE, UNDEFINED AS A SPACE.
SO IT'S A SPACE THAT IS NOT, NOT, NOT DEFINED BY THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW, BUT THE, IN THE CURRENT CONDITION.
BUT WITH THIS EXPANSION, THE SOCCER IS GOING TO BE A VERY CLEARLY DEFINED SPACE UNCONTROLLABLE BY THE MAC.
THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE PROJECT THAT, UH, STEPHANIE IS GOING TO EXPLAIN THE TENANT.
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YEAH.I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT CIRCLE, THE CURRENT CIRCLE AT THE END.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT THE SO-CALLED THE ENTRY TURN AROUND IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THAT STAIN AS IT IS EXACTLY THE WAY WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT.
SO I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION OF THAT.
SO STEPHANIE, IF YOU'RE THERE, THEY CAN GIVE YOU ACCESS TO TALK.
HI, I'M STEPHANIE SOLOMON FROM TECH LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.
UM, I WAS JUST GOING TO TALK THROUGH OUR APPROACH, THE LANDSCAPE APPROACH TO THE PROJECT.
SO OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE WAS TO REALLY PRESERVE THE PARK-LIKE SETTING OF THE MACK AND TO REINFORCE THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE BEAUTIFUL SURROUNDING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK.
UM, I'M IN THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WE'VE, WE'RE SHOWING A PLAYGROUND AREA THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEW YOUTH CLASSROOMS. SO IT'S AN OUTDOOR AREA THAT CONNECTS DIRECTLY WITH THOSE CLASSROOM SPACES.
ON THE STAFF SIDE, WE'VE GOT A HEALING COMMUNITY GARDENS, AND THESE ARE RAISED BEDS THAT CAN HAVE HERBS AND VEGETABLES THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CULINARY, UH, CLASSROOM FOR EVENTS AND PROGRAMMING.
AND THEN SOUTH OF THAT ARE A SERIES OF TRAILS.
THESE WOULD BE LIKE DECOMPOSED, GRANITE TRAILS, UNDERNEATH STAGES, DISTINCT TREE CANOPY.
AND THOSE COLORED SHAPES ARE TO REPRESENT DIFFERENT OUTDOOR PUBLIC ART PIECES, SCULPTURAL PIECES.
SO THIS WOULD BE A SCULPTURE WALK.
UM, YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE LOCATED THE TEJANO TRAIL SCULPTURE, IT'S SHOWN ALL THE WAY, UM, TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, ALONG THE TRAIL WITH IT'S THAT ORANGE RECTANGLE.
I KNOW THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP.
AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE'VE GOT THE LAMU HAIR MURAL.
IT'S ALSO SHOWN AS AN ORANGE BAR THERE, ALONG THE TRAIL SO THAT THEIR PLACES, UM, NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU'RE APPROACHING THE MACK ALONG THE TRAIL SYSTEM, WHERE YOU SEE THAT THERE'S THIS MOMENT OF IDENTIFYING WHERE YOU ARE IN THE ZOCALO ON THE UPPER LEVEL, WE'RE ENHANCING THE PAVING.
AND WE HAVE MOST OF THE TREES SHOWN IN THAT ARE EXISTING TREES.
WE WERE WORKING TO KEEP AS MUCH OF THE EXISTING VEGETATION AS WE CAN TO PROVIDE SHADE.
THAT ONE LARGE CIRCLE IS REPRESENTING THE SHADE STRUCTURE IN THE ZOCALO.
AND YOU ALSO SEE THERE'S SOME GREEN SPACE REPRESENTED THERE THAT ARE COURTYARDS FROM THE LOWER LEVEL THAT ARE OPENING UP, THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE UPPER VOCALO LEVEL.
AND IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SIDE, PLEASE, THIS SHOWS THAT THE LAKE LEVEL, THERE'S AN OPEN EVENT LAWN SPACE THAT CONNECTS DIRECTLY TO THE LOWER LEVEL OF GALLERY SPACES.
WE'RE USING THE SAME TYPE OF MATERIALITY IN TERMS OF THE PAVING.
THERE'S A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE OUTDOOR SPACES AND THE INTERIOR OF THE MAC AT THE LOWER LEVEL.
THERE ARE THREE COURTYARDS THERE THAT OPEN UP TO THE VOCALO ABOVE, AND THEY HAVE STAIRS THAT INVITE PEOPLE TO COME UP INTO THE BUILDING.
UM, THOSE AREAS CAN BE CLOSED OFF WITH ARCHITECTURE AS WELL.
THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE UPDATED THE TRAIL ON THIS SIDE, SO THAT IT'S NOW AN ACCESSIBLE SLOPE.
IT'S ALL LESS THAN 5% ALONG THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
AND WE HAVE, UM, LIMESTONE BENCH SEATING AND OTHER TYPES OF SEATING TO ALLOW THIS TO BE A USABLE GATHERING SPACE.
THERE'S ALSO A PLANTED BURN THAT SEPARATES THE, THIS LEVEL FROM THE TRAIL DIRECTLY.
SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO SPACES.
THIS IS JUST SHOWING HOW WE'RE ENHANCING THE EXISTING PLANTING.
WE'RE INTRODUCING AREAS OF NATIVE UNDERSTORY PLANTING TO WORK WITH THE EXISTING, UM, WONDERFUL TREE CANOPIES.
A LOT OF THIS WILL, THIS PLANTING WILL INCREASE THE BIODIVERSITY.
IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE DEGRADATION OF THE LANDSCAPE.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE LESS MAINTENANCE
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AND LESS IRRIGATION COSTS IN THE LONG-TERM ON THE RIGHT WE'RE SHOWING THE PLAN.THERE IS SHOWING SOME SPECIMEN TREES THAT WILL BE PLANTED IN THOSE COURTYARDS AND TRANSPLANTING SOME OF THE LARGER TREES THAT EXISTS THERE ON THE SITE THAT WE WANT TO SAVE.
I DID HEAR WE WON, UH, MARIANA FROM THE TATIANA IS A LITTLE BIT DAY HOW WE HAVE GONE FROM THE PROGRAMMING PHASE TO START PUTTING THE PROGRAM AREAS THAT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE MARK, WHERE EVERYTHING WOULD GO.
SO, UH, IT'S BEEN A BIG CHALLENGE OF MANY MONTHS OF I CALL IT CHESS GAME MOVING, UH, MOVING THINGS HAVE A REACTION.
SO THERE'S A REASON FOR WHAT, WHY EVERYTHING IS SO MARIANA, IF YOU CAN JUST GO THROUGH VERY BRIEFLY.
I'M MARIANA AND SPEAKING FROM MEXICO CITY FROM THE TENABLE VAL'S OFFICE, PART OF THE JOINT VENTURE WITH MR. RIVERA, AS MIGUEL IS SAYING, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, THE EXISTING ENTRANCE LEVEL.
UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME WELL? YEAH.
SO, UH, THE COLORS, UM, THEY SHOW PROB THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE TRY TO FIT, UH, IN THE NEW WINGS OF THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE RENOVATION THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE EXISTING, THIS, UM, FINAL RESULT COMES, AS MIGUEL SAID, FOR MANY OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, UH, HOW MUCH AREA TO GIVE TO EACH PROGRAM, WHAT AREAS TO RENOVATE, WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE'VE BEEN ASKING THIS YEAR AND THREE MONTHS.
SO STARTING FROM THE SOUTH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS NEW YOUTH EDUCATION WING, AS STEPHANIE WAS SAYING COMPLIMENTED BY THE PLAYGROUND AND EXTERIOR OUTDOOR SPACE.
WE, WE LOCATED THEM HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE CLOSE TO THE PARKING CLOSE ACCESS FROM PARENTS TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN.
WE ALSO SET UP SOME, UM, NEW OFFICES FOR THE EDUCATION STAFF EDUCATION TEACHER, SOME SMALL RECEPTION TO RECEIVE PARENTS.
AND, UH, IF WE GO TO THE AUDITORIUM, WE'RE DOING SOME RENOVATION THAT WE'RE SHOWING IN A ZOOM, UH, FURTHER HEALTH.
AND WE ARE ALSO PLANNING SOME RENOVATION ON THE CURRENT RECEPTION AREA, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THERE.
SO A FEW VISIBILITY TO THIS SPACE THERE'S LIKE OF SIGNATURE PEOPLE ENTER THE SOCK BELOW IN THAT DON'T, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO GO, UH, TO ASK FOR INFORMATION OR BUY TICKETS OR, UH, NOWHERE TO GO TO THE PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE HAVE WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE BLACK BOX.
WE'RE PLANNING A SMALL RENOVATION HERE TO MAKE IT USEFUL FOR DANCE CLASSES THAT NOW ARE TAKING PLACE ON THE SECOND LEVEL.
AND THEN WE MOVED TO A WHOLE NEW SOUTH QUEEN THAT HAS SOME CLASSROOMS, NEW, THE NEW LOCATION OF GALLERIES AND THE TEACHING KITCHEN THAT WE WILL SHOW IN ZOOM ALL OF THESE SPACES, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
SO STARTING FROM THE NORTH WING, THAT YOUTH EDUCATION, UH, WE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MAC STAFF AND THE EDUCATIONAL STAFF, AND WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT WHAT WAS BEST WAS TO HAVE THREE CLASSROOMS AND ONE BIGGER, ONE BIG ONE THAT COULD BE, UM, DIVIDED INTO TWO.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE SUMMER PROGRAMS, THEY COULD OPEN THIS PARTITION AND GATHER ALL THE KIDS TOGETHER, 60 TO 70 STUDENTS, ALL IN ONE SPACE.
ALSO THIS, UH, CLASSROOMS ARE MADE SO THAT THEY CREATE A SMALL FLAT YEAR ON THE SOKOLOW SIDES.
AND THIS FIRE CAN BE MORE OPEN AND EVEN DISPLAY SOME OF THE ART AND THE THINGS THAT CHILDREN ARE PRODUCING WHILST HAVING THE FULL OPEN VIEW TO DISPLAY GROUND THAT FEELS MORE OF THEIR OWN SPACE OF THEIR OUTDOOR AND PLAYGROUND AREA.
THEY ALSO SHARE TWO BATHROOMS AND, UH, TEACHERS ARE ABLE TO CONTROL THE ACCESS TO THESE BATHROOMS BECAUSE THEY'RE ACCESS FROM THE INSIDE OF THE CLASSROOMS. ALSO TWO STORAGE'S.
WE HEARD THIS IN ALL MEETINGS, I THINK WITH THE COMMUNITY, LACK OF STORAGE AND LACK OF DEDICATED STORAGE TO EACH PROGRAM, YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE? SO THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THAT ANGLE IN WHICH WE SEE THE ENTRANCE TO THE CLASSROOMS AND THIS FOYER AREA.
AND ALSO WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE SOKOLOW AND THE OPEN PUBLIC STAIRS TO, TO ACCESS THE LOWER LEVEL.
ONE OF THE KEY IDEAS AS STEPHANIE WAS DESCRIBING WAS THIS IDEA THAT THE SOKOLOW AND THE LOWER LEVEL ARE ACTUALLY ONE FLOOR, EVEN THOUGH THE MAC WOULD HAVE FULL CONTROL AND WOULD BE ABLE TO CLOSE IT.
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THAT THE VEGETATION IS PRESENT AND THE SITE AND THE BUILDING ARE ONE.AND ALSO I WANTED TO SAY ALL OF THE IMAGES, UH, THE MATERIALS ARE NOT DEFINED.
THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL IMAGES THAT ARE KEY TO US TO START IMAGINING HOW THESE ANGLES WOULD LOOK LIKE AND STARTS, UH, THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO START IN D D OF DECIDING WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT THE INTENTION IS THAT THIS SIDE, SINCE IT'S, UH, THE CLASSROOMS ARE CLOSED AND MORE INTIMATE AND PRIVATE, WE CAN SEE THIS FOIL WITH ART AND THINGS THAT THEY ARE BEING PRODUCED AT THE MARK, AND THEY CAN BE DISPLAYED BOTH IN CEILINGS OR WALLS.
AND WE THINK THIS IS A, UH, A WISH, UH, FROM THE MAC COMMUNITY TO HAVE MORE VISIBILITY AS WELL, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
SO THE AUDITORIUM HAS ALSO, UH, BEEN A VERY, UH, VERY IMPORTANT SPACE FOR THEM AND THE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT, UM, GO TO THE MARK TO DO EVENTS.
AND, UM, WE ARE PLANNING TO ADD MORE SEATS.
SO WE'RE ADDING MORE ROLES TO THE SEATS.
I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A SECOND LEVEL BLEND.
IF YOU WANT TO JUST QUICKLY MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE TO, TO TAKE A LOOK FROM ABOVE.
WE COULD BE HAVING UP TO 228 SEATS.
AND IF YOU JUST MOVE BACK TO THE FIRST PLAN, WE'RE ALSO DOING SOME RENOVATION ON THE DRESSING ROOMS, UH, MAKING MORE DRESSING ROOMS AND SPACE FOR PREPARING ON THE BACK OR THE SUPPORT SPACE, ADDING A BATHROOM AND SOME MAKEUP DESKS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PREPARE FOR THE EVENTS.
AND WE'RE ALSO ADDING BATHROOMS ON THE SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE, AND THESE WOULD BE SO THAT PEOPLE ASSISTING THE EVENTS DON'T HAVE TO COME OUTSIDE OF THE, OF THE AUDITORIUM TO ACCESS THE PUBLIC EXISTING BATHROOMS. WE HEARD THIS WAS A BIG SECURITY ISSUE WHEN PEOPLE FEEL FELT THEY HAD TO COME OUTSIDE AND, AND MISS PART OF THE SHOW AND DIDN'T FEEL SECURE DOING SO.
SO THIS IS A WAY OF, UM, ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE.
IF YOU WANNA MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
UH, NEXT ONE HERE, THIS AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS THE RECEPTION WE'RE PLANNING ON MAKING A KIND OF A, UM, NEW VOLUME COMING OUT, POP POPPING OUT OF THE EXISTING SO THAT THIS IS VERY CLEAR ONCE YOU ENTER, UH, THIS KIND OF BOX OF A CRYSTAL BOX THAT LETS PEOPLE KNOW SOMEONE, IS THERE, SOMEONE IS LOOKING OUT FOR THE SPACES AND THEY CAN HERE FOR INFORMATION.
WE ALSO PLAN TO, UH, WITH FURNITURE AND, AND THE RANGE AND SMALL RENOVATION, MAKING SOME WORK ARTWORK STATIONS THAT PART-TIME WORKER STATIONS, UH, ANOTHER PRIVATE OFFICE AND A BREAK ROOM FOR STAFF.
AND, UH, THAT, UH, IS USING THAT CIRCLE SPACE TO HAVE A MEETING ROOM OR ANY, ANY COORDINATION, UH, FOR THE STAFF, FOR THE STAFF OF THE MAC TO USE AT THEIR OWN, UH, BEST INTEREST.
IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
AND HERE WE HAVE ALL OF THE NEW SOUTH WING THIS, UM, THIS IS A WHOLE NEW WING THAT IS NEXT.
STARTING FROM ABOVE, WE HAVE A LOADING DOCK.
THIS WOULD BE WHERE TRUCKS AND ARTISTS AND ANY EQUIPMENT FOR ANY EVENT ON THE SOKOLOW WOULD UNLOAD AND LOAD.
THIS IS A VERY USEFUL SPACE AND WE HAVE THIS DOOR THAT CAN GIVE ACCESS OR NOT GIVE ACCESS TO THIS, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO IT, WE HAVE THE MUSIC ROOMS. UH, WE NOW CALL IT MUSIC ROOMS IN BLUR.
WE USED TO BELIEVE IT WOULD BE JUST ONE THAT WE WOULD BE REPLACING ONE, BUT WE, WE HEARD THAT, UH, MORE SMALLER ROOMS. WE NEEDED REHEARSAL ROOMS, NOT ONLY FOR CLASSROOMS, BUT ALSO FOR THE SOCCER EVENTS AND THE ARTISTS.
SO, UH, THEY CAN ALSO SERVE AS GREEN ROOMS FOR WHEN THERE'S EVENTS.
THEY HAVE A SMALL BATHROOM INSIDE AND ALSO STORAGE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY GALLERY THAT IS CURRENTLY PLACED IN THE FOYER OF THE AUDITORIUM.
SO NOW WE HAVE BOTH GALLERIES TOGETHER, THE COMMUNITY GALLERY AND THE PERMANENT GALLERY THAT CAN BE SEPARATED OR, OR, UH, FUNCTION AS A WHOLE.
AND THEY HAVE A DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE KITCHEN.
UH, THIS COULD BE USEFUL BECAUSE THEY COULD BE DOING RECEPTIONS OR FOOD, FOOD EVENTS.
AND, UH, THIS, THESE TWO SPACES COULD BE CONNECTED.
AND, UM, AS STEPHANIE WAS SAYING, THE TEACHING KITCHEN IS ALSO LOCATED HERE CLOSE TO THE HEALING GARDEN, SO THAT INGREDIENTS AND ANY OTHER FRESH, UM, PLANTS COULD BE USED FOR THE CULINARY CLASSROOMS THAT WE KNOW.
AND WE HEARD IT WAS A VERY, UM, WANTED PROGRAM BECAUSE THE MEXICAN AMERICAN RELATES SO MUCH TO, UM,
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UH, TRYING THEIR CULTURE, ENJOYING THEIR CULTURE THROUGH FOOD.SO WE THINK THIS IS A, AN AMAZING SPACE.
YOU HAVE ALSO ON THE CORNER WITH PRIVILEGED VIEWS AND THE CONNECTION TO THE LANDSCAPE.
IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
SO THIS IS A FIRST, UM, GENERAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSAL.
WE CAN CLEARLY SEE THE EXTENSION OF THE NEWER, THE NEW WINGS, UH, ON BOTH SIDES.
WE CAN ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SHADE STRUCTURE ON THE, ON THE SO-CALLED.
WE, THIS IS A HUGE CONCERN TO HAVE EVENTS.
AND ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER THAT IT'S BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THAT SPACE DURING THE DAY, PEOPLE HAVE EVENTS AND ON THE STAIRS AND WHENEVER THERE'S SHADES.
SO WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE THIS SHADE STRUCTURE, IT COULD FIT UP TO 400, 450 PEOPLE UNDERNEATH IT.
THIS IS IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE PEOPLE UNDERNEATH IT, IT CAN ALSO HAVE THE STAGE AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE UNDERNEATH IT, BUT IT'S, UH, A FIRST DRAFT OF WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE AND THE INTENTION OF THESE IMAGES, TRYING TO SHOW, UM, THE RELATION TO THE LAKE AND THE RIVER AND THIS SPACE, UH, THE MAC DINING, ITS OWN SPACE AND AFFIRMING ITSELF ON THE BEAUTIFUL CONTEXT AND THE VIEWS WHILST MAINTAINING THE CONTROL, AS ONE WAS SAYING, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST HEARD COMMENTS, UH, CONTROL AND SECURITY OF THE SOKOLOW.
IF YOU WANT TO PLEASE MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO HERE WE SEE THE SECOND LEVEL PLAN, STARTING FROM THE LEFT.
WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE, UH, A SHELL VOLUME.
THIS VOLUME COULD BE IN THE FUTURE USED FOR GATHERINGS MEETINGS, ARTISTS, UM, AND THEN IT CAN BE CONNECTED TO THE EXISTING GALLERY WHERE WE PLAN TO ALSO HAVE SOME SMALL RENOVATION ABILITY, UM, MAKING AVAILABLE SOME PARTITIONS FOR ARTISTS TO SET UP AS THEY WISH TO PRODUCE ART, TO PRODUCE PIECES FOR THE GALLERY, FOR THE CURRENT EXHIBITIONS, OR TO, UH, USE IT AS A WORKING SPACE.
WE'RE ALSO THINKING OF RENOVATING THE CURRENT, UH, DANCE ROOM ON THE CENTER.
UH, THIS HAS A NEW PROGRAM CALLED THE MEDIA CENTER.
WE, WE HEARD FROM THE MAC STAFF THAT THIS SPACE BECAME EVEN MORE NEEDED WITH THE PANDEMIC GOING ON.
PEOPLE COULDN'T GO PHYSICALLY TO THE MAX.
SO THE ABILITY TO BROADCAST EVENTS AND POETRY AND MUSIC AND, AND HAVING A SPACE THAT IS THAT IT HAS THIS TECH ABILITY AS MARIO WAS SAYING, SO, SO NEEDED FOR THE YOUNG, WE THINK THIS IS A KEY SPACE FOR, FOR THE MAC COMMUNITY.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A LIBRARY ON THE FRONT AND SOME COMPUTER STATIONS FOR ADULTS OF CLASSROOMS AND FROM RESEARCH.
AND THERE'S THE KIND OF SOCIETY CLASS AND, AND, UH, MANY, MANY OTHER CLASSES THAT COULD, AND PEOPLE THAT COULD JUST COME AND USE THIS, UM, SPACES.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT, WE PLANNED SOME SMALL INNOVATION ON EXISTING CLASSROOMS. CREATING OFFICE SPACE IS ALSO SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.
AND WE HEARD A LOT THAT, UH, THE MAC PEOPLE USE ARE USING STORAGE'S, UM, OFFICES BECAUSE THEY WORKSPACE, THEY LIKE SPACE FOR OFFICE AND STORAGE.
SO, UH, WE'RE CREATING MORE OFFICE SPACE WHILST MAINTAINING EVERYONE WITH OUR OFFICE, TRYING TO MAINTAIN THEM NEXT TO THEIR PROGRAM.
AND THEN ON THE SOUTH WING, WE HAVE THE, WHAT WE CALL THE ADULT EDUCATION WING.
WE HAVE THIS BIG MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM THAT FEEDS 80 PEOPLE.
WE HEARD THAT ARIANA ON THE LARGER, OKAY.
SO, YEAH, SO WE HAVE THIS MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM.
IT HAS SOME BATHROOMS AND STORE ITS OWN STORAGE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TWO NEW CLASSROOMS FOR ADULT PROGRAMS, AND WE ALSO HAVE TWO NEW OFFICES, UH, IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM THAT, UH, COULD BE ALSO A MEETING ROOM OR A SMALL EVENT ROOM.
UM, THEY ALSO, UH, OPEN TWO PATIOS THAT BRING LIGHTING INTO THE SPACES AND HELP SEE THE AMAZING OUTDOORS THAT THE MAC HAS.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
SO THIS IS A, ANOTHER CONCEPTUAL IMAGE OF THE, OF THE CORRIDOR THAT ACCESSES ALL THESE ADULT PROGRAMS. AGAIN, THE INTENTION OF THE MATERIALS IS THAT THEY'RE VERY TRANSPARENT, VERY LIGHT, VERY CONTRASTING, CONTRASTING WITH, UH, THE DORIS BUILDING IN THE WAY THAT, UM, IT ALLOWS THE VISIBILITY THAT THE MAC LONGS FOR AND THE ABILITY WE HEARD THIS FROM THE CAMINOS A LOT THAT THEY WANTED TO GO OVER, WALK THROUGH THE MAC AND BE ABLE TO SOMEHOW SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEY'RE PRODUCING WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND THIS IDEA OF THE LIKENESS AND THE VISIBILITY IS ONE OF THE KEY IDEAS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE MATERIAL
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MATERIALITY IN GENERAL, AND ALSO THE WHARF THAT, UH, THE CURRENT BUILDING WAX AND THE FLEXIBILITY, UM, FOR FURTHER USE OF THE PROGRAMS AND SPACES, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.SO THIS IS, UH, A GENERAL IMAGE FROM THE, FROM THE AERIAL VIEW FROM THE LAKE.
UH, AGAIN, WE SEE THIS EXTENSION OF THE ERRANDS.
WE SEE THE PATIOS, THE VEGETATION ALWAYS PRESENT.
WE SEE THE, THE TWO ACCESSES FROM THE SOKOLOW THE STAIRS AND THE BIG STAIRS THAT KIND OF CREATE ALSO THIS HANGOUT SPACES, THE ENGAGING SPACES, AND, UM, ALSO THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND HOW THE, UM, THE SNAKE EXTENDS AND BECOMES A LOOKOUT POINTS TO THE, TO THE VIEWS.
IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
SO FINALLY, THIS IS THE PLAN OF THE LAKE LEVEL.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S THESE TWO ENTRANCE POINTS THAT ARE LIKE AN ASYMMETRIC GESTURE OF ENTRANCE ENTERING THIS PLAZA.
UM, IF AN MUST MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, WE CAN SEE THE ZOOMS STARTING WITH THE NEW BLACK BOX ON THE LEFT SIDE.
UH, THIS IS A BIGGER BLACK BOX THAN THE CURRENT ONE THAT THEY HAVE AND A BIT TIRED AS WELL.
THIS WOULD HAVE A SOUND BOOTH TO HELP CONTROL THE EVENTS ON THE CENTER.
IT ALSO HAS A SMALL LOBBY THAT CAN HELP, UH, ACOUSTICALLY ISOLATE THE SPACE AND CREATE A BARRIER OF SOUND.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME BATHROOMS, UH, PUBLIC BATHROOMS, ALL OF THIS FLOOR, AND SOME DRESSING ROOMS WITH THEIR OWN PRIVATE, UH, BATHROOM, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.
UM, YEAH, SO THIS IS, UH, THE IMAGE OF THIS STAIRS ON THE LEFT, THE ACCESS TO THE SOKOLOW.
UH, WE THINK THIS IMAGE TRANSMITS A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE THINKING FOR THIS, UH, CROSSING AND CHANGE OF LEVEL TO MAKE IT LIVE, TO MAKE IT PART OF THE, SOMEHOW A PROMENADE OF THE SPACE.
AND IT HAS THIS IDEA THAT THE STAIRS ARE SPACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN HANG OUT AND THE YOUNG CAN BE HERE AND THEY CAN SEE, AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SOKOLOW.
AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SOCCER BALL, WHO'S GONE WITH WHO'S COMING IN, WHO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE LAKE LEVEL.
YOU CAN SEE A SMALL LINE OF THE DOOR THAT YOU CAN CLOSE THIS AT NIGHT AND HAVE SECURITY AND THE CLOSE PERIMETER FUNERAL TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
UH, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WE HAVE, UH, THE NEW GALLERY AND NEW GALLERY SPACE THAT IS CONNECTED UPSTAIRS WITH THE SOUTH WING AND THE TEACHING KITCHEN.
THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE AN ELEVATOR, THE ELEVATOR AND THE STAIRS.
AND THIS IS ALSO, UM, FOR THE MAC PEOPLE TO BRING PIECES OF THE ARTS THROUGH THIS ELEVATOR, THEY ARRIVE TO THIS PREP ROOM WHERE THEY CAN SET UP THE EXHIBITIONS, THEY CAN STORE THE ART, AND THEN THEY CAN BRING PIECES FROM THIS, UH, KIND OF, UH, PRIVATE, UH, STAFF, ONLY HALLWAY.
AND THIS GIVES ACCESS TO THE NEW GALLERY AND THE EXHIBITION ALSO, SOMETHING I DIDN'T MENTION IN THE GENERAL PLAN IS WE HAVE SOME SHELF SPACE ON THE CENTER OF THESE TWO SPACES.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A ZOOM, BUT IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT PLAN TO JUST QUICKLY EXPLAIN THAT THIS CENTER SPACE IN THE FUTURE, UH, 1, 1, 1 MORE.
SO THIS IS, THIS HAS A CENTRAL COURTYARD.
THIS, THIS KIND OF PATIO, UH, WOULD BRING LIGHT INTO THE SPACES THAT LIKE NATURAL LIGHT AND VENTILATION, BUT WE THINK THIS PLACE IN THE FUTURE COULD BE A RECORDING STUDIO.
ALSO A PROGRAM THAT MANY, UH, HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR MUSIC SPACES, SPACES TO RECORD FOR THE YOUNG, FOR PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT TO COME AND RECORD WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND, UH, AS A PLACE FOR EXPRESSION.
AND THIS COULD ALSO BECOME EVEN AN EXTENSION OF THE GALLERY IN THE FUTURE OR ANY OTHER PROGRAM THAT CAN BE NEEDED IN 10 YEARS FROM NOW THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT IT IS NOW, IF YOU WANT TO JUST GO ADVANCE TO THE NEXT ONE, NEXT ONE.
UM, SOME IMAGES OF THE, OF THE PATIO FEELINGS AND THE TRANSPARENCY THAT WE LOOK FOR, EVEN THOUGH THIS, UH, HALLWAY, THIS LEVEL IS SECURED.
IT HAS A BIG CONNECTION TO THE OUTSIDE.
EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S HAPPENING, THE ART PEOPLE CAN GET CURIOUS AND JUST WANT TO GET IN AND SEE THE GALLERY.
AND WE ALSO BRING SPACE AND, AND WE REALLY LET THE CONCEPT OF THE, OF THE LAKE AND THE, AND THE SURROUNDINGS ENTER THE SITES OF THE MAC WHEN I MOVED TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
AND I THINK ONE, I GIVE YOU A WORDS HERE.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU, YOU CAN SEE THANK YOU.
I MEAN, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, UH, TIME AND MEETINGS, UH, THAT IT TOOK TO
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GET TO WHAT MARIANA JUST EXPLAINED.SO ELOQUENTLY, IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET THERE, BUT JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT FOR US, THE TOP PRIORITY WAS TO LISTEN TO THE, TO THE MAG HERE, ALL THE NEEDS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY PUT IN FRONT OF US, TRYING TO LIKE NAIL SAY, PUT ALL THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE IN A WAY THAT WE COULD ADD THE SAME TIME THAT WE WERE LISTENING TO, TO THE MAG.
WE WERE LISTENING TO THE EXISTING BUILDING, AND WE WERE RESPECTING THE EXISTING BUILDING FOR WHAT HE WANTS TO BE IN TERMS OF LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO DO A VERY DIFFERENT MATERIALITY, BUT WE WANTED THE FORM OF THE BUILDING TO BE WHAT , UH, HAS, HAS, UH, UH, THOUGHT FOR THIS SPACE.
I MEAN, THE BUILDING WAS CLEARLY UNFINISHED.
SO IN THAT REGARD, THAT'S ANOTHER PRIORITY THAT WE HAVE FOR US, THAT WE HAD TO DO AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE WERE ACCOMMODATING ALL THE PROGRAM AND THAT THE MAG WAS, UH, UH, UM, EXPLAINING TO US AND THE SPECIFICS OF THE ADJACENCIES THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO THEM.
AND THEN THE THIRD ASPECT THAT WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS AN OBLIGATION FOR US AS ARCHITECTS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS THAT THE MAC HAS A PRIVILEGE.
LOCATION IS ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT THE MAC ON GUS GARCIA WAS ABLE TO SECURE.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL ALWAYS BE THANKFUL TO HIM FOR THAT.
AND THAT SITE GIVES, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUILDING TO HAVE A PRESENCE THAT RIGHT NOW IS NOT, UH, ACHIEVE WITH THE CURRENT SCHEME, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A ENGAGING THAT THEY DECIDE THE WAY THAT HE, HE COULD.
SO IN, AFTER TAKING CARE OF THOSE TWO OTHER NEEDS, WE THINK THAT IT'S AN OBLIGATION FOR US TO INCREASE THE PRESENCE OF THE BUILDING FROM THE CIVIC PRESENCE POINT OF VIEW, WITH THE PUBLIC SPACES, THE SO-CALLED THAT IS FULLY CONTROLLED, THE EVENT SPACE THAT IS RELATED TO ALL THE TYPE OF EVENTS AND, AND THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, UM, THEIR TRANSFORMATIONAL, UH, ABILITY THAT THIS EXPANSION WILL DO.
WE'LL BE IN INCREDIBLE IN TERMS OF HOW THE BUILDING CAN BECOME AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE, OF THE CIVIC LIFE IN AUSTIN.
WE THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE MISSIONS OF THE MARKETS IS TO, TO, TO DIFFUSE AND, AND, AND EXPLAIN TO THE WORLD, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE AND ALL THE ART THAT IS PRODUCED ON ALL THE ART THAT IS IN DISPLAY.
AND WE THINK THAT THERE'S, UH, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF THESE LOCATION TO REALLY INCREASE THAT VISIBILITY IN WAYS THAT IT CAN BECOME TRULY INTEGRAL TO THE, TO THE CIVIC LIFE OF AUSTIN.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER OBLIGATION THAT WE FELT LIKE WE HAD TO RESPOND TO THE LAKE TRAIL, THE PRESENCE OF THE BUILDING IN NATURE, SOMETHING THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN OUR STATE.
AND SO THE BUILDING CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS CAN TAKE CARE OF ALL THE NEEDS CAN, CAN PROVIDE A SPACE THAT IS SECURE AND CONTROL CAN PROVIDE A PRESENCE OF THE BUILDING AT THE CIVIC LEVEL AND GIVE VISIBILITY TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT FOR A LONG TIME, AS WE ALL KNOW, HAS BEEN MARGINALIZED AND HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN THE BOYS THAT HE NEEDED.
AND, AND THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE, UH, GUS GARCIA THEME WOULD BE PARTICULARLY PROUD OF SEEING THAT THE SIDE IS PAIN OF THE, THE POTENTIAL THAT HE HAS.
SO WE WANTED TO SHARE THIS, UH, CLOSING THOUGHT IN THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, JUAN MIGUEL AND MARIANNA FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, JUST BEFORE WE BEGIN INTO THE BOARD DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM, UH, JUST WANT TO FIRST KIND OF JUST THANK EVERYBODY, THE COMMUNITY, UH, OUR PRESENTERS ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO COME TO SPEAK, UH, IN HELPING SCHEDULE THIS ONE, UH, WITH THE PANDEMIC STILL US BEING IN STAGE FIVE.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SAFEST ENVIRONMENT TO BE ABLE TO HOST THIS MEETING.
AND SO I DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE WITH THAT.
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THAT BEING SAID, I THINK, UM, IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO, UH, SPEAK UP, PLEASE BY AT ANY TIME, BUT, UM, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS PLAN AND THE DESIGNS REALLY, REALLY CLOSELY, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THE, THE PLANS AND THE DRAWINGS AS THEY'RE LAID OUT, INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT AND THE ABILITY OF THE MAC TO REALLY BE ABLE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC IN A REALLY IN A VERY DYNAMIC AND VERY HOPEFULLY ADAPTIVE WAY INTO THE FUTURE.UM, WE HAD A CITIZENS, COMMUNITY COMMUNICATION, MARIO KIND OF REALLY KIND OF SPEAK TO THE YOUTH AND TO, UM, THESE EVOLVING AND NEW NEEDS THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES FOR OUR COMMUNITY, TO NOT JUST,
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UM, BE PRESENT IN AUSTIN, BUT TO THRIVE AND TO BE SUCCESSFUL.UM, I THINK THIS PANDEMIC, IF IT HAS TAUGHT ME ANYTHING, IT IS THAT ADAPTABILITY IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE IN OUR RECIPE, EVEN WHEN WE'RE CREATING OUR, UH, PERMANENT TO SOME DEGREE.
UM, AND SO I THINK THE MORE I LOOK AT THE PLANS AND THE MORE I LOOK AT THE CLASSROOM SPACES, THE MORE I LOOK AT HOW THINGS ARE REALLY ORGANIZED.
APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THE PLAN.
PROBABLY FOR ME, THE PART THAT I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND MORE IS THE ZOCALO AND HOW THAT REALLY IS GOING TO FUNCTION, NOT JUST AS A PLACE FOR, UM, PUBLIC GATHERING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PERSON COMING DOWN, THE BUTLER, HIKING BIKE TRAIL, OR IN THE FUTURE HERE SHORTLY, THE NEW HUB FOR CAP METRO WITH BLUE LINE, JUST WEST OF WALNUT CREEK AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO COME INTO THE RAINY DISTRICT.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME THROUGH OUR PROPERTY TO, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, VISIT THE FRIENDS OR REALLY JUST GET INTO THE AREA.
AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEE IS SOMETHING QUITE AMAZING AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO STAY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO HOPEFULLY LEARN MORE AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO PARTICIPATE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO HOPEFULLY BE INSPIRED BY WHAT THEY SEE, BUT AT THE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FULFILLING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE SO PASSIONATE AND SO INVOLVED IN CREATING THOSE PROGRAMS IN PROVIDING THOSE EVENTS AND DREAMING EVEN BIGGER THAN WHAT THEY'VE DREAMED OF PREVIOUSLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE ZOCALO IN MEXICO CITY, UM, IT'S A BIG FLAT PIECE OF, YOU KNOW, PLAZA IN THE REALLY, I GUESS THE, THE POWER OF THAT ENORMOUS PUBLIC SPACE IS THAT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING, RIGHT.
THERE'S, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR EVERYTHING THIS PLAZA IN HERE IN AUSTIN, OUR ZILKHA LAW.
UM, I THINK IT, IT, IT DOES HAVE THAT POTENTIAL, BUT IT ALSO HAS LIMITATIONS IN ITS CURRENT KIND OF LAYOUT.
THERE IS NO REAL DISCERNING BORDER BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE, IN THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.
THERE'S REALLY NOT A PRESENCE WITH THE WATER.
SO YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT SENSE OF PLACE WITH NATURE AS, AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE SHOULD.
YOU KNOW, I THINK MANY PEOPLE FORGET THAT ACTUALLY, UH, THE MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BEST SPOTS TO SEE THE BATS FLY OUT FROM THE SOUTH CONGRESS BRIDGE.
UM, I, I ENJOY SEEING IT FROM THE, FROM THE BALCONY, UH, JUST OUTSIDE OF THE GALLERY.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT QUITE CLEARLY.
AND SO I THINK THESE POTENTIALS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE SAME TIME I LOVE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS PLACE CAN BE LIKE DURING THE, OF THOSE, WHAT ARE THOSE? AND I THINK ABOUT W WELL IS OUR PROGRAM'S GOING TO BE DIVIDED.
HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK THROUGH THAT? I THINK THOSE ARE PROBLEMS THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY SOLVE, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THOUGH THAT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT LIKE THESE LARGE CONCERTS IN, IN THESE, THESE CONCERTS, I DO SEE AS VEHICLES OF EMPOWERING OUR, OUR, OUR COMMUNITY, EMPOWERING THEM IN THE WAYS OF BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE A VENUE FOR THEM, WHERE THEY ARE AT HOME, AND THEY FEEL LIKE IT IS FOR THEM AND NOT GIVEN TO THEM JUST OUT OF A, A COUPLE OF CALENDAR YEARS OVER THE YEAR, BUT REALLY THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE THEY CAN PERFORM TIME AND TIME AGAIN, KEEP COMING BACK.
SO REALLY TO THE DESIGN TEAM, I GUESS IF Y'ALL COULD JUST, IF YOU COULD GO TO A SLIDE WITH THE ZOCALO AND KIND OF PLEASE TALK THROUGH HOW YOU, YOU SEE BOTH THE PUBLIC ENGAGING IN THIS ON A DAILY BASIS, PLEASE TALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE OF LIKE THE DOORS IN CLOSING AT NIGHT THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED.
I THINK THOSE ARE SOME, EVEN THE COMMENTS FROM THE DESIGN COMMISSION ON BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE ACCESSIBILITY FROM THE TRAIL TO RAINY WHILE THERE IS CERTAINLY A CONCERN OF MINE.
MINE IS MORE NOT THE CONCERN OF THE PASTOR BUYER, BUT OF THE USER.
UH, AND IF YOU COULD KIND OF DESCRIBE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH SOME POTENTIAL AMENITIES IN THERE.
MAYBE WE CAN GO BACK TO THE, UH, THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE LANDSCAPE.
YEAH, NO, A LITTLE, WELL, WELL, I THINK THAT, YEAH, THE LANDSCAPE DIDN'T SIGNAL EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION TOWARDS THE BEGINNING, I THINK IS, IS, IS, IS PROBABLY A LITTLE EASIER, MORE, I MEAN, SO THANK YOU DAVID, FOR THE QUESTION, BUT BASICALLY MORE, MORE, WELL, LET'S START.
SO WHAT, THE WAY WE'RE IN MY UNIT AND IT'S TRUE THAT, UH, THE SOCA LAWS IN, IN MEXICO HAVE DIFFERENT APPROACHES, RIGHT? THE MEXICO CITY IS THE ONE THAT IS, UH, ALL BARREN
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AND THERE IS NO, I MEAN, THERE'VE BEEN ATTEMPTS TO PUT, UH, TREES THERE AND EVENTUALLY IN THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN MATERIALIZED.THERE ARE OTHER SOCCER LAWS IN BASKETBALL, MORELIA BY LEAD AND, UM, MEDIDA, UM, AND, AND THAT HALF MA MANY, MANY TREES IN THEM.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO THINK ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE PACK, ALMOST ALL THEORIES ABOUT WE NEED SHADE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT HAS AN IMPACT IN THE EVENTS THAT CAN BE ORGANIZED THERE.
SO A LOT OF THE TREES THAT WE'RE SEEING, THERE ARE TREES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, THAT WE ARE ASSUMING THAT ARE GOING TO STAY AND THE ABILITY TO PUT ON THE EDGES, UH, MORE VEGETATION, UH, IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE FINE TUNED IN TERMS OF MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL USES OF THE SPACE.
THE SPACE IS 31,000 SQUARE FEET IS A VERY LARGE SPACE JUST TO GIVE A SENSE OF UNDER THE SO-CALLED.
I MEAN, UNDER THE SHADE STRUCTURE, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE UP TO 500 PEOPLE SEATING SITTING DOWN.
AND THE, THE PROGRAMMING OF THE SPACE WE IMAGINE WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE BAND, LIKE MARIANA SAID, YOU CAN HAVE LIKE STAGE IN UNDER THE, UNDER THE CANOPY, BUT FOR US, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IT'S A SPACE THAT IS EASILY CONTROLLABLE.
SO WE IMAGINE THAT PEOPLE WILL ACCESS THE SPACE FROM THE GROUND ENTRADA OR FROM THE PARKING, AND THEN THERE WILL BE POTENTIAL WAYS TO ACCESS IT.
ALSO AT THE END OF EACH WING, THAT WILL CONNECT MORE WITH THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
BUT, UH, FOR CONTROLLED, WE MIGHT END THAT THE MAG WILL HAVE CONTROL POINT AT THE ENTRANCE FROM THE, FROM THE GHANAIAN ENTRATA AND FROM THE PARKING.
AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY ALSO THE ACCESS FROM THERE.
UH, THE LOADING THAT MARIANA WAS EXPLAINING TO BRING EQUIPMENT.
SO WE MIND THAT THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING, UH, EQUIPMENT AT ANY POINT.
AND THEN WE MAY END THE EVENT LAWN BELOW A D IF YOU GO TO THE, TO THE NEXT, UH, MAYBE FROM THE LOWER LEVEL, I CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT WHAT WE REMAIN FOR THE ACCESS, YOU KNOW, MARIANA SHOW THE IMAGE OF THIS STAIR.
SO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT PEOPLE CAN GO ON UP THROUGH THOSE STAIRS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME AT NIGHT, THE MARK HAS THE ABILITY TO CLOSE THIS GATE ALONG HERE.
WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU SEE MY COURSER BY THIS GATE IN FRONT, ALONG THE GALLERY OF THE, OF THE LOWER LEVEL THAT ALLOWS FOR THE MAC TO CONTROL AND S AND, AND CLOSE THE BUILDING AT NIGHT.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER ACCESS ON THE OTHER, ON THE SOUTH, ON THE NORTH AND SORRY.
THE ON THE SOUTH END AND SAME THING YOU COULD ACCESS THE, THERE WOULD BE AN ELEVATOR.
THERE COULD BE, THERE ARE STAIRS, THERE'S AN ELEVATOR, AND AT NIGHT IT CAN BE CLOSED.
SO PEOPLE CAN GO INTO THE BUILDING FROM THE LOWER LEVEL.
AT ANY TIME, WE MIGHT HAVE AN EVENT LAWN AT THE LOWEST LEVEL AS A MORE, UH, INFORMAL, UM, EH, ACCESS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE, ON THE LAKE LEVEL.
AND THEY WANT TO GET CLOSER TO THE ACTIVITIES.
WE MAY NOT BE MURAL PIECE OF ART THAT WILL BE ON DISPLAY ALONG THE GALLERY.
THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE PERMANENT PIECES OF ART THAT COULD BE PART OF THE ART IN PUBLIC PACE.
IT PLACES VERY MUCH IN THE TRADITIONAL MEXICAN ARCHITECTURE, INTEGRITY AND PLASTIC.
SO WE MAY END UP A BIG MURAL THERE THAT IS GIVING VISIBILITY TO ANYONE GOING ON THE TRAIL, THAT THE BUILDING IS MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER ON THIS LOWER AREA.
WE'LL HAVE BENCHES ALONG THE PERIMETER AND PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING ON THE TRAIL.
THEY CAN SIT, THEY CAN ENJOY AN ACTIVITY THERE, OR, I MEAN, THE MAC CAN PROGRAM DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AT THIS LEVEL THAT ARE MORE ENGAGED WITH THE ACTIVITIES ON THE TRAIL, OR THERE COULD BE ACTIVITIES PROGRAM IN THE UPPER LEVEL THAT ARE, UH, MORE RELATED TO MAYBE THE, THE ACTIVITIES OF THE KIDS IN THE CLASSROOMS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING FROM HAVING LUNCH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SOCCER CLUB, BUT IT WILL BE FULLY CONTROLLED.
SO WE MIGHT LIKE A VARIETY OF EVENTS HAPPENING IN THERE, BUT THE CONNECTIVITY WITH THE TRAIL IS HAPPENING AT THOSE ENDS WITH AN ELEVATOR THERE THAT WILL ALLOW ANYONE ON A WHEELCHAIR TO GO UP AND DOWN.
AND THEN THE MONUMENTAL STAIR BECOMING A VERY, VERY STRONG, UH, VISCERAL CONNECTION BETWEEN THE LAKE LEVEL AND THE LOWER LEVEL WITH THE TRAIN THAT CAN GO, YES, THAT WILL BE THEIR NATURAL WEIGHT THERE.
THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S I DUNNO, DAVID, THIS ADDRESSES SOME OF YOUR, ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
OF COURSE, THE AMOUNT OF TREES IN THE SO-CALLED IS SOMETHING TBD IN THE SENSE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE, BECAUSE WE HAVE HURT THE WHOLE EXTREME.
WE HAVE HEARD SOME PEOPLE SAY NO TREES.
I REMEMBER THAT WE WALKED THE PROPERTY, UH, AND SOME VOICES WERE SAYING NO TREES.
AND THEN SOME PEOPLE SAY, NO, ABSOLUTELY WE WANT TREES BECAUSE OTHERWISE THIS SPACE IS UNUSUAL.
SO I THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO FIND A BALANCE THAT, THAT, THAT ACCOMMODATES, UH, TREES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU HAVE A CONCERT, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT LIKE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, ACL WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, CAN BE UNDER TREES
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IS STILL LISTENING THERE.YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO GET CLOSER TO THE STAGE, AND THEN CLOSER, CLOSER, CLOSER TO THE STATES.
WHAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER OF TREES RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN PROBABLY DISCUSS THAT FURTHER AS WE MOVE INTO THE PROJECT.
I THINK MY NEXT QUESTION THOUGH, UNLESS ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANT TO ASK? UM, DAVID, IT'S JUST HARD.
WE CAN RECOGNIZE, UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CHAIR FOR, UM, UH, FOCUS FOCUSING IN, ON THE, ON, ON THE SOCA LOW AND, UH, OUTSIDE, UH, THE OUTSIDE EVENTS AS, AS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FURTHER, FURTHER DISCUSSED, FURTHER, UH, EVALUATED AND PERHAPS SOME RECONSIDERATION, UH, OF, OF, OF WHAT WE HAVE AS BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT IN THIS, UH, THIS SCHEMATIC DESIGN PRESENTATION.
UM, I, I THINK THERE'S A LOT WE CAN AGREE ON THAT I CAN AGREE ON IN TERMS OF, UH, UM, UH, PROGRAMMING, CLASSROOM DESIGN, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE GALLERY, UH SET UP, UH, FOR, FOR LIKE A, MULTI-PURPOSE USE THE, UH, CONNECTION TO THE, TO THE KITCHEN, UM, THE, THE SPECIFIC GARDEN GARDEN AREAS.
AND OF COURSE ALL THE, ALL THE CLASSROOM CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE GOING IN THERE GOING IN.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, AS WELL AS WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED BEFORE IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS, UH, OVER THE, OVER THE PAST YEAR, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS ONE BOARD MEMBER, UH, I SEE, I SEE FLAWS IN THE, UM, IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED BEFORE.
AND, UH, UH, THE OBSERVATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY, BY, UH, BY, BY PEOPLE, INCLUDING ME ARE NOT, ARE NOT, UH, AIMED IN ANY, IN ANY PERSONAL WAY, OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUS, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, BUT UH, OUT THE OUTDOOR EVENT, ISSUES IS VERY, UH, CAME TO, TO ME.
UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY REDUCTION IN THE, UH, FLOOR, UH, UH, THE FLOOR SPACE OF, UH, OF THE SOKOLOW.
I THINK THE TREES ARE GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD WHAT ACCOMMODATIONS, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE DEMAND, UH, AND ELECTRICAL POWER AND PLACEMENT, UH, IS, IS GOING TO BE, I KNOW I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE LOADING DOCK.
UH, I, I TAKE IT THAT SOME OF THE, UH, UH, SOME OF, SOME OF THE, UH, BACKSTAGE, SO TO SPEAK, UH, UH, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY LINE UP WITH AN OUTDOOR EVENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE A LARGE CONCERT WITH, WITH, UH, A VERY POPULAR MUSICAL ACT.
FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN 3000 PEOPLE IS, IS GOING TO BE, IS GOING TO BE, UH, UM, SUCCESSFULLY PLANNED FOR, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD.
SO FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR, UM, I'M BASICALLY A BROKEN RECORD.
I'M ON REPEAT IN TERMS OF MY, MY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
UH, LET ME BEGIN WITH, WITH ONE QUESTION WITH THE, UH, THE SHADE, THE SHADE AREA.
DID I HEAR CORRECTLY THAT THE SHADE AREA CAN ENCOMPASS A SEATING FOR 400 PEOPLE ON THIS? YEAH, YEAH.
WE'LL GO BACK ONE SLIDE BECAUSE IT WILL BE EASIER TO SEE IT.
THE, I THINK THAT AT SOME POINT WE HAD A DRONE WITH ALL THE SEATS, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
CAN WE GO ONE SLIDE BACK? WELL, THE THING IS DRAWN IN THAT ONE, BUT YES, THAT'S THE THAT'S CORRECT.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S GOOD CONSIDERATION THERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LINE OF LINE OF SIGHT, LINE OF VISION BETWEEN THE SO-CALLED CONCERT AUDIENCE AND, UH, STAGE, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE CONSIDERATION ON THE PLANNING AND DESIGN TEAM FOR HOW YOU, HOW, HOW YOU BRING IN A STAGE? I TAKE IT THAT YOU CAN'T, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, UH, WHERE WOULD A MUSICAL ACT SAY LIKE LITTLE JOE, AN UNDER IS FIVE, FIVE TIME GRAMMY WINNER, UH, UM, UH, WHO CAN, WHO CAN DRAW A CROWD WHO'S WHO'S IN
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HIS LATE YEARS, UH, AND IS, IS A VIRTUAL ALLEGED LEGEND, UH, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.WHERE, HOW AND THE STATE A CONCERT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
SO ARE WE HAVE, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH? AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY MAYBE THE, THE, THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT WE HAVE NOW IS MAKING IT A LITTLE HARDER.
I MEAN, TO, TO SEE, AND WE, WE ARE HEARING THAT MAYBE WE HAVE TOO MANY TREES IN THE SO-CALLED.
I MEAN, SOME OF THEM, THE LIGHTER GREEN ARE EXISTING, SO WE MAY NEED NOT TO ADD TOO MANY, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE WERE IMAGINING DIFFERENT TYPE OF EVENTS, EVENTS THAT REQUIRE 500 PEOPLE, A THOUSAND PEOPLE, 3000 PEOPLE, THE IDEA FOR THE STAGES THAT IS INSTALLED ON FOR THE OCCASION.
I MEAN, WE, WE, WE DEBATED A LOT ABOUT THE STATES AND THE IDEA THAT IS LIMITED, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR A FIXED STATE.
SO WHAT WE FIXING IS THE SHADE STRUCTURE, BUT THE IDEA LIKE MARIANA SAID IS THAT YOU HAVE A SMALL EVENT WHERE ONLY, YOU KNOW, 300 PEOPLE ARE ATTENDING OR 400 PEOPLE, YOU CAN HAVE EVERYTHING HAPPEN UNDER THE SHADE STRUCTURE.
YOU HAVE A BIG EVENT THAT IS 3000.
THE STAGE COULD BE MORE TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING FACING THE LAKE.
AND THE AUDIENCE WILL BE MORE IN THE MORE OPEN SPACE IN THE SHADE STRUCTURE.
LOOKING BACK AT THIS STAGE, WE MIGHT END LIKE FLEXIBILITY.
AND WE, WE, WE WILL LIKE TO GET MORE INTO THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT WE WILL HAVE POWER AVAILABLE TO MAKE THE DIFFERENT CONNECTIONS IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS FOR THE STATES, DEPENDING ON THE EVENT.
SO WE, WE, WE INHERENTLY HAVE THE CHALLENGE OF HAVING TO ACCOMMODATE MANY DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS.
AND WE, WE THINK THAT WE CAN BUILD THE FLEXIBILITY BY HAVING THE ABILITY TO SAY, FOR EVENT A, YOU PUT THE STAGE HERE FOR A VEIN B, YOU PUT THE STAGE HERE BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME AND EVENT FOR 3000 PEOPLE THAT FOR, UH, 300 PEOPLE.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN UNDER UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT LET LET'S DO, LET'S DO IT AND BLEED LET'S DO ARROW ON, ON, ON, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE BIG EVENTS, BECAUSE I ASSURE YOU WHEN WE COME OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, IF, AND WHEN WE COME OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, THERE WILL BE, UH, A HUNGRY, THIRSTY, HUNGRY, HUNGRY, AND A THIRST FOR, UH, UH, FOR CON CONCERT SETTINGS FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T BUY TICKETS TO AUSTIN CITY LIMITS, OR, UH, UH, OR, OR THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED AT, UH, UH, BARTON SPRINGS, UM, UH, WHERE, WHERE FOCUS IT NARROWLY, WHERE WOULD YOU PAGE YOU GET TO STAGE IN THE STAGES THAT HAVE BEEN AT THE MAC BEFORE HAVE BEEN FOUR OR FIVE FEET IN HEIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, ROOM FOR, UH, 10, 12, 14 MUSICIANS AND ALL THERE, AND ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT AND, UH, THEIR AMPLIFIERS AND, AND SO FORTH.
UM, UH, LET'S NARROW IN, IN, ON THAT BECAUSE, UH, YOU, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN PART OF A LOT OF, AND I HAVE, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY, UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN A PRESENTATION THAT NARROWLY FOCUSES IN ON THAT.
UM, WELL, I, I, I WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE, WE ARE FOCUSING ON SCHEMATIC DESIGN, SO WE'RE STILL KIND OF IN THIS CONCEPTUAL STATE, UM, STATE OF THE PROJECT AND, UM, HAVING A FLEXIBLE AREA FOR STAGES, WE'LL, WE'LL ALLOW FOR TEMPORARY CONFIGURATIONS, LIKE JUAN WAS SAYING, SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN EXERCISE THAT WE'RE DOING HERE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO AT LEAST SHOW YOU THE MASSING OF THE BUILDING, HOW WE'RE EXPANDING.
WE'RE NOT AT THAT KIND OF LEVEL OF DETAIL.
AND, UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT THE TREES AND I WANT TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, AND EXPANDING THE BUILDING.
WE ARE HAVING TO REMOVE THE TREES TO ACTUALLY EXPAND THE BUILDING ON EACH SIDE OF THE CRESCENT.
AND SO DOING, WE NEED TO MITIGATE THE TREES THAT WE REMOVED.
SO WE HAVE TO PLANT MORE TREES.
NOW, DOES IT HAVE TO BE ALL IN THE PLAZA? I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING, A DISCUSSION THAT WE WILL FURTHER DEVELOP WITH OUR ARBORISTS AND, UM, AND, AND GETTING, UM, OUR SITE PLAN APPROVALS, BUT THE TREES WHERE WE HAVE, IF THERE ARE EXISTING, WE'LL PROBABLY IF SHOWN ON THE STRAW, WE'LL HAVE TO STAY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO, WE'VE GOT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND CODES THAT WE'RE UNDER OBLIGATIONS TO DO.
SO, SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE PARAMETERS THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITHIN, JUST, JUST TO REMINDER, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, JUST SAY YOU GOT TO REMOVE THEM JUST BECAUSE WE WANT THEM OUT OF THE WAY.
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I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, AS, AS WE CAN'T SEEM TO GET TO, WE CAN'T GET TO, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE CAN GET TO THE POINT WHERE DECISIONS WILL BE, WILL BE MADE IF WE'RE STILL IN SCHEMATIC.UH, THE, UH, PHASE TWO, UH, WORKING GROUP, UH, YOU KNOW, BEGAN MEETING AS EARLY AS APRIL OF LAST YEAR.
AND WE HEARD ALL THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WAIT TILL WE GET TO COMERICA, AND THEN THE SCHEMATIC IS NOT COMING UNTIL SEPTEMBER, AND THEN IT, AND THEN IT WAS PUSHED BACK TO LATE SEPTEMBER AND INTO, INTO, UH, THEN INTO OCTOBER.
AND HERE WE ARE, UH, ALMOST IN, IN FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY, UH, I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT I REPRESENT AND THE PHONE CALLS THAT, THAT, THAT I GET, UH, FROM, FROM PEOPLE ARE TAKEN INTO, INTO CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE WAS A UNILATERAL DECISION BY SOMEBODY.
I WOULD, I WOULD IMAGINE THE PROJECT MANAGERS OFFERS, WHICH WOULD BE YOU AND THIS, AND, UH, THE MAX, THE MAX STAFF.
SO TO NOT EVEN CONSIDER, UH, A STAGE, I CAN REMEMBER THE FIRST, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING WHERE THE, THE DESIGN STAFF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MEETING WAS LIMITED TO TWO HOURS.
THE DESIGN AND PRESENTATION TOOK, TOOK AN HOUR AND 10 MINUTES, HOUR AND 15 MINUTES.
AND THEN IT WAS CUT OFF AT THE END OF TWO HOURS.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED AT THE THIRD MEETING.
UH, AND WHEN YOU BROUGHT INTO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE TO BASICALLY RIDE HERD OVER THE, UH, OVER THE PEOPLE THAT WERE, THAT WERE SPEAKING, UH, UH, AND, UH, THAT WAS DIFF DIFFICULT TO, TO, TO, TO ACCEPT, UH, THEY CAME IN WITH A HEAVY, A HEAVY HAND.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS, UH, UH, WERE ABLE TO SIT IN ON, IN THOSE, IN THOSE MEETINGS OR GOT TO SEE IT, UH, UH, ON, ON, ON VIDEO.
UH, BUT A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE CAME IN WITH A HEAVY HAND, BUT AT LEAST THAT'S ONE, ONE BOARD MEMBER'S PERSPECTIVE.
AND BEYOND THAT, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LET OTHERS SPEAK IS THAT I CANNOT, FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WASN'T ANY SPECIFIC MEETINGS, BOARD MEETINGS, UM, TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DESIGN, BASICALLY BOARD MEMBERS GOT INTERWOVEN INTO OTHER MEETINGS HERE AND THERE.
UM, THE PHASE TWO W WORKING GROUP, AND THEN THE OFFICIAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS.
I KNOW I SPOKE TO LEGACY, UH, ACT ACTIVISTS, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, MARTHA .
SHE SAID AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT, THAT SHE WAS ON THE BOARD, THE BOARD AT THAT TIME PLAYED A, UH, UH, A VERY SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN PHASE TWO, IN TERMS OF, UH, IN TERMS WHERE THE BOARD MEMBERS CAN SPECIFICALLY AS AN ENTITY, UH, PRESENT THEIR IDEAS IN INDUCED.
INSTEAD WE GOT INTERWOVEN, UH, AND TO SOME EXTENT IT WORKED TO SOME EXTENT IT DID, AND I'LL LEAVE IT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR ARTWORK AS WELL.
I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN, UH, UH, VERY MUCH OF A PURSE RECIPIENT AND THIS, AND, UM, WE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT IN HERE, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT, AT LEAST ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, I WANT TO FIRST ADDRESS THE COMMENT ABOUT LIKE THAT THE, UH, PROJECT MANAGEMENT OFFICE.
AND I THINK YOU WERE PROBABLY REFERRING TO MY, MY DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS PUBLIC WORKS, THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THE MANAGING DEPARTMENT FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, THERE WAS NO UNILATERAL DECISIONS BY OUR OFFICE.
UH, IT'S A CULMINATION OF TRYING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET AND BALANCING WHAT WAS SET AS PRIORITIES FROM THE MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS, OR WE'RE REFERRING IT TO THE 2018 PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.
THAT PROCESS IN ITSELF TOOK NINE COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO GET TO THAT POINT.
AND SO WE WERE GIVEN THAT DOCUMENT TO PROCEED WITH PHASE TWO, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
AND DURING OUR, UH, INITIAL PLANNING, UH, WE HAD FIVE MEETINGS FOLLOWED BY THREE OTHER MEETINGS, AND I THINK YOU WERE REFERRING TO PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE LATER MEETINGS, UM, JUST AS WE
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HAVE DONE BEFORE WE, UM, EARLIER AT THE BEGINNING, AND THE PROCESS JUST TAKES THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT DOES.SO I GET TO PUT OUT, WE GET OUR DESIGN TEAM ON BOARD THAT TAKES, WE HAVE TO GET COUNCIL'S APPROVAL FOR THAT.
WE ALSO HAD TO DO A CMR. WE HAD AN RFQ FOR THAT OR RFP FOR THAT, AND IT TAKES TIME TO GET COUNCIL APPROVAL.
UM, SO ALL THAT, UM, AND I MAYBE I DIDN'T EXPLAIN IT EARLY ENOUGH FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT'S PUT IN PLACE THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF.
AND THEN AFTER THAT'S APPROVED, IT'S ONLY APPROVED TO GO FORTH AND NEGOTIATE WITH EACH OF THOSE FIRMS. SO THAT PROCESS TOOK AS LONG AS IT DID.
AND IMMEDIATELY, AS SOON AS WE STARTED, WE STARTED ENGAGING YOU AS THE BOARD AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY AND EMPHASIZE THROUGH OUR 17 MEETINGS, 17 COMMUNITY MEETINGS, FORMAL MEETINGS THAT WERE SET TO GET TO THIS POINT.
NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WERE CHARRETTES THAT THE BOARD WAS INVITED TO.
THERE WERE OTHER, UM, WORKING GROUP MEETINGS AT THE BOARD WAS WHAT, UH, WAS, UH, ALSO WE HAD PERSONALIZED AND, AND, AND, AND CAME TO YOU FOR THAT.
UM, SO I COULD JUST SAY SOMETHING REGARDING THREATS IN PARTICULAR.
UM, BUT DO I SAY, W W WE WERE NOT INVITED TO THE CHARRETTE, THE CHARRETTE THAT I WENT TO? I, I SELF I SELF INVITED.
UH, WE, WE WERE NOT INVITED, UH, UM, PERHAPS THE CHAIR CAN SPEAK TO THAT TOO.
UM, WE W I SELF INVITED MY MYSELF TO THAT MEETING.
UH, AND IN THAT, IN THAT I SAW THE, THE, THE, THE SCALE DOWN VERSION, UH, W W WHAT DO Y'ALL CALL THAT MINIATURE SCALE DESIGN, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN WHAT MARCH OR APRIL, THAT FIRST CHARRETTE, I THINK THAT YOU HAD THIS DESIGN WAS ALREADY OBVIOUS AT, AT PORSCHE, APRIL, APRIL.
UH, IT MAY HAVE, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING MAJOR DESIGN WISE.
THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT EXISTED IN, IN APRIL.
THAT'S WHERE I COME IN WITH MY, MY PHRASE OF UNILATERAL.
UM, UM, AND I WAS IN PARTICULAR SPEAKING, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, UH, YOUR UNILATERAL DECISION WAS THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO STAGE, UM, AND, AND CONCERNS VIA, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT HERE.
THAT'S FANTASTIC, MAGNIFICENT, UH, BEAUTIFUL, ALL, ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE WORDS, BUT I DON'T THINK OUTDOOR EVENTS IN PARTICULAR MUSIC EVENTS HAVE RECEIVED, UH, SUFFICIENT, UH, DESIGN CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW HERE.
UH, AND, AND WHAT I SEE FROM ONE BOARD MEMBER'S PERSPECTIVE.
SO ART, IF I MAY RESPOND, I MEAN, I WAS TALKING TO HERE WITH MIGUEL.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO, I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE ARE NOT SHOWING THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THIS SPACE CAN BE USED.
AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE CAN DO, AND WE CAN BASICALLY SHOW DIFFERENT LAYOUTS AND DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS AND THEN FINE TUNE THE LOCATION OF THINGS TO BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS THE BEST CONFIGURATION FOR THE FLEXIBILITY THAT THEY MIGHT DESIRES.
WE, WE, WE HAVE IDEAS AS TO HOW IT CAN HAPPEN, BUT YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT.
THAT ARE NOT SHOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPED ENOUGH.
SO WE'LL BE VERY HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS YET, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THEIR FLEXIBILITY AND THEIR SHADE STRUCTURE IN, WE FEEL LIKE THE SHADE STRUCTURES IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
AND WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NOW THE ABILITY TO THINK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS AND MY SENSE, AS YOU'RE SPEAKING, I'M LOOKING AT THIS PLAN.
I THINK WE HAVE TOO MANY THREES.
SO I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH WITH YOU ON, AND WE ARE VERY, VERY HAPPY TO DO SO.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT IT IS A, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS STILL NEEDS TO, NEEDS TO COME TO SOME DEGREE IN THE, THE, THE, THE, THE SHOWING OF THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS, BECAUSE WE ARE, WE, IT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
COULD YOU SORRY TO MIGUEL, UH, COULD YOU EXPLAIN, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY ABOUT THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE AND WHAT OCCURS THEN IN THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE, WHICH IS TO FOLLOW, BECAUSE I THINK
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WHAT WOULD MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR BOARD MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS WATCHING AT HOME AND HERE IN PERSON IS TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE IN THE DESIGN, SO THAT THEY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, ADAPTATIONS COULD OCCUR LIKE, AND, UM, AND REALLY HOW WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, JUST KEEP INFORMED WITH, UH, WITH THE DECISIONS MADE THE CLOSER WE GET TO CONSTRUCTION.I THINK, UH, WELL, WE COME TO THIS MARRIAGE, WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME.
I WOULD TRY TO GO VERY GENERAL.
WE HAD, UH, MANY MEETINGS ABOUT THE, THE SOKOLOW AND WE HAVE MANY DRAWINGS SHOWING DIFFERENT LAYOUTS OF PEOPLE SITTING WITH, UH, TEMPORARY STAGES IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
WE TALKED TO THE ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANT, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE IF WE PUT THIS STAGE AWAY FROM THE BUILDING, THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO ACOUSTICALLY, UH, MAKE IT WORK BECAUSE THERE REVERBERATE RARE LIBERATION, YOU KNOW, THE SOUND, THE BOUNCING OF THE SOUND, BECAUSE IT'S A HALF CIRCLE.
SO WE, WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT IT'S NOT GOOD TO HAVE IT IN, IN THIS SIDE OF THE SEMICIRCLE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE THROWING SOUND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS BEEN A COMPLAINT FOR WHEN THERE'S LATE EVENTS.
SO THE WAY WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT IS TO HAVE THE, EH, THE, FOR THE BIGGER EVENT, UH, THE STAGE WHERE, UH, THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, BY THE GROUND AND THROTTLE, LIKE IN THAT AREA THERE, WHERE THE SOUND GOES AWAY FROM THE BUILDING, AND, AND YOU CAN HAVE THE SERIES FROM THE CHASE STRUCTURE INTO THAT.
AND IN THE OTHER AREA, WE DO HAVE DRAWINGS.
I THINK WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT.
NOW WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET AND TALK ABOUT THE SO-CALLED.
THE CIRCULAR IS THE HEART OF THE MAC.
SO ABSOLUTELY WE CAN HAVE A MEETING JOSEPH ABOUT, UH, THE SOKOLOW AND GO OVER THAT AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION IN TERMS OF THIS COMMODITY AND ALL THAT.
IT'S VERY HARD, YOU KNOW WHAT, COME FIRST, WE SAID, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO CAUSE A, WHAT ARE THE MATERIALS? SO WE WERE FOCUSING, UH, IN THE PROGRAMMING INTO GET AN IDEA OF THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, THE SPACES THAT NEED IT, THAT ARE NEEDED.
AND WE WENT A LITTLE FURTHER THAN THAT IN IT'S COMMODITY DESIGN, BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING.
AND WE WERE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE EXISTING, UH, 36,000 SQUARE FOOT? DO WE NEED TO, CAN WE, IF THE GALLERY DOESN'T WORK, WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE GALLERY? SO WE NEEDED TO VERY EARLY BE THINKING ABOUT THE BUILDING AND, AND IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS THAT WE WANTED TO COMPLETE THE SOKOLOW.
SO DURING THE, THIS COMMODITY DESIGN, WE TOOK THE PROGRAMMING AND INSERTED THEM INTO THE, THIS SHAPE THAT WE HAVE.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE, LIKE MARIANA WAS GOING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PROGRAMS, THE MAC, UH, STAFF HAVE TO MAKE VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS OF, OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT SPACES NEEDED TO COMPROMISE, WHAT SPACES NEED.
SO, FOR SOME OF THOSE MUSIC ROOM, WE WENT TO THREE ROOMS BASED ON MANY MEETINGS WITH THEM.
UH, SO THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD REASONS, LIKE YOU SAID, AND NOW ON THE D UH, THE DECIDE DEVELOPMENT IS WHERE WE GO TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE MATERIALS ARE, WHETHER THAT'S A SIGHTLY, THE RIGHT ROOM, YOU KNOW, THE OUTLETS, THE SPEAKERS, THE LIBRARIES, NO, NO OUTLET HAS BEEN PLACED ANYWHERE.
SO ELECTRICAL IS NOT PART OF THIS COMMODITY SIGN IN TERMS OF SORT OF THE CONTRACTOR IS BASICALLY ESTIMATING THE COST OF ELECTRICAL BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO HOW BIG IS THE BUILDING? MORE OR LESS? I PUT A NUMBER FOR THE FOUR, BUT WE ARE NOT, WE HAVEN'T PLACED ANY ELECTRICAL OUTLET IN THE SOCCER LOT OR ANYWHERE, OR THAT RE FOR THERE'S NO PER SQUARE FOOT.
THERE, THERE IS ROOM TO, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, TO DISCUSS FOR THE, FOR THE THEATER ITSELF, THE EXISTING, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MULTIPURPOSE WAS DECIDED TO PUT FIXATING.
SO WE, UH, WENT A LITTLE FURTHER INSTEAD OF SAYING FIXATING LET'S CALCULATE, HOW CAN WE, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN WE GET? CAN WE GET THE TWO 50? SO WE WENT WITH LAURA WITH THE MUSIC, UH, PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AND OTHER PEOPLE THEY HAVE, WHAT IS THE MINIMUM STAGE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO.
AND FROM THERE, WE STARTED THE CEILING AND WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF DETAILS FOR THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I DON'T KNOW THE COMPANY OF THE CHAIRS THAT WE'RE USING, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF THAT.
SO IN, IN THE, IN THE NEXT PHASE, ALSO, WE GOT COST ESTIMATES, YOU KNOW, BACK, WHICH WILL TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO OR NOT DO WHAT THE, WE CAN SPEND A LITTLE MORE WHERE WE NEED TO REDUCE.
I THINK HOPEFULLY I ANSWERED THE QUESTION SO WELL, THANK YOU.
AND I THINK, UM, WE HAD, UH, UH, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION, MR. LARRY MOTTO, EVEN, UH, REQUESTS THAT THIS BOARD TRIED TO DELAY THAT I THINK, UM,
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SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REALLY UNDERSTOOD HERE IS THAT A DELAY IN THE PROJECT IS, UH, IS A REDUCTION IN WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD.SO I THINK THAT WEIGHS HEAVY ON THE DESIGNERS, THE PROJECT MANAGER'S MINDS, A LOT, CERTAINLY ON MY MIND, UH, IN, IN REALLY TRYING TO BALANCE THE QUALITY OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WITH REALLY JUST THE NEED TO GET SOMETHING BUILT AS THIS MARKET BECOMES MORE AND MORE COMPETITIVE AND MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO I THINK IF, IF A DELAY, I AM HAVE VERY BIG CONCERNS ON CREATING ANY DELAY BECAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT'S LIKE SIX FIGURE SOME POTENTIALLY EVEN SEVEN FIGURE DELAYS IN THE BUDGET.
AND SO I HAVE MY BIGGEST CONCERN AND MY BIGGEST GOAL HERE IS TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO WALK INTO THIS AND BEGIN TO KIND OF MAKE IT OUR OWN.
I'M HOPING THAT THROUGH THIS DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE, WE ARE ABLE TO, AS MARIANA DID IS LIKE REALLY KIND OF LOOK AT EVERY ONE OF THESE SPACES AND BEGIN TO SAY, OKAY, HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY GONNA USE? WHAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS REALLY THE CAREFULNESS AND THE THOUGHT THAT GOES INTO, LIKE, HOW ARE KIDS GOING TO USE THIS? UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE HOW THESE CLASSROOMS INTERACT WITH THAT KIND OF ALMOST PRIVATE COURTYARD FOR THEMSELVES AWAY FROM THE ZOCALO, BUT ALSO STILL ENGAGING IN IT.
I THINK THOSE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I REALLY WANT TO JUST TEASE OUT MORE, LEARN MORE ABOUT.
AND, AND AS THE DESIGN DEVELOPS, REALLY JUST KIND OF SEE HOW, HOW THAT, THOSE GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH US REALLY ARE EXPRESSED.
BUT, UM, I, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT THE DESIGN ITSELF, THE PROGRAMMING, THE LAYOUT IS TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN BEGIN NOW AS A COMMUNITY IN COLLABORATION WITH THE DESIGNERS TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT THIS AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, LIKE, WHERE DOES THE STAGE GO? OKAY, WHERE DOES, IF THIS IS THE EVENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO THINKING OF, OR A PROGRAM, HOW, HOW WOULD THAT ACTUALLY FUNCTION AND BEGIN TO KIND OF DAYDREAM THIS TOGETHER, UM, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, OR DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THEY DID.
I JUST WANT TO ADD SOMETHING NEW NOW I JUST WANT TO ADD, SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE THAT THE FUNDING THAT THE, MY GOD IN 2018 FOR THIS WAS NO SUFFICIENT FOR PHASE TWO.
SO ONE OF THE DECISIONS WE SAW THE POSSIBILITY WAS HOW, HOW CAN WE DO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF PHASE TWO WITHOUT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE FUNDING FOR PHASE TWO, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO THE BUILDING THE PLAN OF 2018, I HAVE MY NUMBERS HERE HOLD FOR 68,483 SQUARE FOOT.
THE EXISTING BUILDING IS 36,000 7 61.
WE'RE ADDING THE MAXIMUM TO MATCH THAT OF 30 1003 87.
WE ARE IN 31,000, WE'RE DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THE MAC.
AND WE ABLE TO DO THAT BY SONG ROOMS, BEING WHAT WE CALL SHELF SPACE, WHICH IS, WILL BE DEVELOPED LATER, BUT WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO COMPLETE THE LAW.
AND WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSION TO WITH THE, WITH PART AND MARK AND EVERYBODY.
AND WE SAY, IF WE, IF WE WANT TO FINISH OUT ALL THE SPACES, YOU TELL ME WHICH ARM YOU WANT ME TO CUT.
AND HE SAID, VERY HARD DECISION.
SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME DECISION THAT, HEY, MAYBE THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE THIS STAGE BECAUSE THAT COSTS 80,000 OR $100,000.
MAYBE YOU CAN DO THAT EVENTUALLY, BUT THESE ARMS WOULD TAKE ANOTHER 10 YEARS BEFORE WE CAN DO YOU KNOW THAT? SO WE ARE, WE ARE DOING, AND I DON'T HAVE THE MAP, BUT WE'RE DOING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PHASE TWO BY THE MASTER PLAN OR THE PLAN OF 2018, WAIT A FRACTION OF THE MONEY ALLOCATED.
SO THAT'S FOR US, A VICTORY IS A GREAT THING FOR THE MAC.
AND, AND, AND YOU CAN SEE WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE YEAR AND THREE MONTHS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH, WITH ALL THE GROUPS THAT WE ARE GETTING TO THE VERY SPECIFIC OF EACH ROOM.
SO WHEN YOU OPEN THE MAC IS GOING TO WORK THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO WORK, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE DOING RENOVATION CHANGES AND SO ON.
SO, UH, I THINK, UH, I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE MAC STAFF AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE GIVEN US VERY, VERY GOOD FEEDBACK.
AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY FLEXIBLE, UH, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY CAN GET WHAT THEY WANT, BUT THEY'RE BEING VERY FLEXIBLE, FLEXIBLE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE CONTINUE TO, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE THOSE NUMBER, UH, UH, UH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
UM, I THINK REALLY JUST KIND OF SOME OF MY LIKE PARTING THOUGHTS AS WE MOVE INTO THE
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DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE IS REALLY KIND OF BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO TELL THE STORY OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AND THAT, UH, EMMA, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAY BE GIFTED OR MAY HAVE IN OUR POSSESSION, OR WE MAY WANT TO TRY TO COMMISSION A PORTRAIT OF EMMA BARRIENTOS SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BUILDING NAMED AFTER HER, BUT CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY KIND OF TELLING THE STORY OF WHO SHE IS.AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT MARIANA, YOU SPOKE OF THE WAYFINDING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF PART OF IT, RIGHT, AS A BODY WILL BRINGS IS, YOU KNOW, YOUTH GROUPS HERE TO LEARN ABOUT TECH AND BITCOIN AND ALL THESE NEW REVOLUTIONARY THOUGHTS OF EMPOWERMENT, FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE, PERSEVERANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ALSO TO, TO DO THAT, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE AUDIENCE OF OUR, OUR ANCESTORS.
AND SO I'M REALLY, UH, I, I LOVE THE IDEA OF, FOR INSTANCE OF THE, THE, THE ART KIND OF WALK THAT'S TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING, WITH WHAT LOOKS LIKE A KIND OF SOME STORMWATER RETENTION.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE WAYFINDING, THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S, WHERE'S, THE FRONT DESK IS AS IMPORTANT AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HELP CREATE THIS CAUSE, UH, THE STORY OF THE MAC IS A STORY OF THE SPIRIT OF THE MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY HERE IN AUSTIN.
AND SO, UM, I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY TAKES PRIDE IN WHAT WE HAVE HERE CURRENTLY AND WHAT IS BEING IMAGINED FOR THE FUTURE, BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEYOND SPECIAL THAT IS NOT FOUND IN MOST, ANY OTHER CITY, NOT EVEN LOS ANGELES, CHICAGO, NEW YORK, DALLAS, HOUSTON.
THIS IS AT ITS COMPLETION GOING TO BE THE SHINING EXAMPLE IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, WE CERTAINLY WANT OUR NEEDS.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO BE JUST SOME SHINY EXAMPLE.
WE WANT IT TO BE FUNCTIONAL FOR US.
UM, AND I THINK WHAT'S EXCITING FOR ME IS NOT THINKING SO MUCH ABOUT THE TACTILE MATERIALITY.
WHAT IS THE, HOW BIG IS THE ROOM IS, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO FILL IT? HOW ARE WE GONNA INSPIRE MARIO AND HIS PEOPLE, THE YOUTH TO COME IN HERE? HOW ARE WE GOING TO SHARE THE MUSIC OF, YOU KNOW, OF, OF THE STANDING TO HANO MUSICIANS THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME? UH, HOW ARE WE GOING TO SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE? HOW ARE WE GONNA SHARE THEIR MUSIC WITH EMERGING TALENT? UM, THE CITY IS JUST TEAMING WITH INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE, UH, TALENT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THOUGHTS AND, UH, IN THE MAC IS GOING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IS GOING TO BE A HUB, NO MATTER WHAT, IN, IN IMAGINING THIS, UH, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, UH, PLEASE, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS, IF NO ONE ELSE HAS HAS ANYTHING, UM, LET ME JUST ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
THOSE TREES THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE SOCOLOW, ARE THEY PLANTER TYPE TREES OR ARE THEY IN GROUND TREES? AND IF THEY'RE IN GROUND TREES, HOW HIGH WILL THE CANOPY, THE LOWER PART OF THE CANOPY BE? UM, AND ALSO THE, THE, THE CHAIRS, THE 400 SEATING, UH, PUT THE POSSIBILITY, UH, WHAT KIND OF CHAIRS WILL THOSE BE? UH, WHERE WILL THEY BE STORED? 400 IS, UH, IS A, IS A LOT OF SEATING CAPACITY.
AND I CAN REALLY, I CAN REALLY, UH, UH, AGREE WITH THAT, WITH THAT POSSIBILITY RIGHT THERE.
UM, ALONG WITH OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE SOMEBODY PLEASE, STEPHANIE, YOU WANT TO ANSWER ABOUT THE TREES? YEAH.
I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TREES.
UM, THE TREES WILL BE BECAUSE THE EAST SIDE OF THE VOCALO IS ACTUALLY ON, IT'S NOT ABOVE STRUCTURE.
SO THEY'LL BE JUST LIKE THE TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
NOW THEY'RE IN GROUND PLANTERS, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME GRADE AS THE PAVING OF THE VOCALO.
SO THE CANOPY WILL BE UP ABOVE YOU, BUT THE TREES THEMSELVES WILL BE PLANTED IN RAISED PLANTERS.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TREES THEY ARE YET.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL WORK THROUGH, UM, AS PART OF DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, AS WE REFINE THE LAYOUT OF THE ZOCALO AND ALL OF THE PLANTING AND IN LIGHT OF YOUR COMMENTS TODAY.
UM, SO, SO YEAH, I CAN'T, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE THINKING ABOUT SIGHT LINES AS WE, AS WE REFINE THE PLANTING.
MA'AM MOST OF THE TREES THERE TODAY ARE LIFE.
SO OUR, OUR, FOR THE, FOR THE QUESTION, OUR STORAGE,
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WE HAVE SOME STORAGE ROOMS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE, FROM THE SO-CALLED.OBVIOUSLY I DON'T THINK THAT THE MAG MAY WANT TO STORE 400 CHAIRS.
SO WE MIND FOR EVENTS LIKE THAT THEY WILL BE RENTED, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, UH, UH, THAT THE MAG WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN TERMS OF TEMPORARY FURNITURE FOR DIFFERENT EVENTS.
BUT, UH, EH, I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE HEARD TO HAVE ROOM FOR 400 CHAIRS.
SO WE WERE NOT PLANNING FOR THE STORAGE OF 400 CHAIRS.
I DIDN'T THINK , WE HAVE SOME CHAIRS, BUT IN TERMS OF LAYOUTS AND ALL THOSE THINGS OF THE SAKATA, WE CAN DEFINITELY FORWARD THAT INFORMATION TO YOU WHILE WE HAVE.
AND I THINK TO THAT END, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HEIDI, I BELIEVE LAST TIME THAT WE MET, UM, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE REASON WHY THIS ADVISORY BOARD HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO MEET REGULARLY IS BECAUSE OF, OF THE PANDEMIC AND BEING ASKED TO MEET IN PERSON IN MANY BOARD MEMBERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, NOT FEELING SAFE AT EVERY TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, HEIDI, I THINK LAST TIME WE DID MEET THOUGH, WE SPOKE OF SOMEONE, UM, I FORGET UNDER WHICH DIVISION OF THE CITY, WHETHER IT WAS PUBLIC PARKS OR OUR PART, I FORGET EXACTLY WHO THAT POINT OF CONTACT WAS, UH, AS FAR AS THEM PROVIDING UPDATES TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN LOOKING, UH, AT OUR SPEAK-UP AUSTIN PAGE AND ON, EVEN ON OUR PHASE TWO WEBSITE, UH, THROUGH THE LINK ON OUR, OUR MAC WEBSITE.
AND THERE, THERE DOES SEEM TO BE QUITE A LOT OF MISSING INFORMATION AND UPDATES.
AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT, UH, UH, WE HAVE TO ADAPT, UM, THE PANDEMIC HAS FORCED US TO ADAPT.
AND I THINK IN REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION, WE HAVE VERY USEFUL TOOLS IN FRONT OF US THAT WE CAN UTILIZE.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE AS WE MOVE INTO THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND BEGIN TO FOCUS MORE ON THE CLASSROOMS AND THE MUSIC ON THE PERMANENT GALLERY ON THE DANCE STUDIO AND THE ADULT CLASSROOMS THAT WE ACTUALLY KIND OF HAVE MORE FOCUS GROUPS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE INTEND TO FILL THAT WITH.
UH, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE ACADEMIC QUALITY, THAT THE REVEAL, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE, UM, LATINO ARTISTS ACCESS PROGRAM.
WE HAVE CURRENT ARTISTS WE CAN PULL FROM.
UM, MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THE DESIGN TEAM HAS SPOKEN WITH BEFORE, BUT I THINK WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND START TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO OCCUPY THIS BUILDING, THEIR INPUT IS GOING TO BE, UH, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THAT CERTAINLY INCLUDES THOSE, WE KNOW HAVE A VERY VESTED INTEREST IN CREATING, UH, PERFORMANCES ON THE ZOCALO TOO.
AND SO I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE THAT COMMENT, UH, BOARD MEMBERS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMENTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? AND IF YOU WERE TRYING, YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE.
UH, THANKS FOR RECOGNIZING ME, UH, APOLOGIZE.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE BUTTON TO GO, UM, UH, OFFERING FOR A WHILE NOW, BUT JUST, UH, THERE'S I CAN'T STRESS, UH, A LOT, WHAT SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I'VE ALMOST FEELS LIKE WE'RE BEATING A DEAD HORSE WITH THAT, UM, BY BRINGING THAT UP, BUT, UM, JUST WANT TO STRESS THAT AGAIN.
I THINK ART MADE A REALLY GOOD POINT.
I THINK YOU'VE ALSO MADE A GOOD POINT CHAIR REGARDING HOW WE'RE, WHAT IS THIS GOING TO MEAN? I THINK IT WAS, UM, THE CITIZENS SPEAKER FRANCISCO SOLACE FROM LATINOS IN ARCHITECTURE.
HE SAID, WHAT DOES A CULTURAL CENTER OF THE 21ST CENTURY LOOK LIKE, UM, WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN MIND? AND SO I'M, I'M REALLY, UM, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS NEXT PHASE.
UM, MOVING INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE J VENTURE TEAM.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE DESIGN? UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR JV TEAM OR PROJECT MANAGEMENT? ALL RIGHT.
WELL, UM, AGAIN TO THE JOINT VENTURE TEAM, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND EVERYBODY, I DO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR MAKING THE TIME, UH, TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD.
UM, AGAIN, WITH EVERY INTENTION, WE, WE WANTED TO HOST THIS MEETING BEFORE THE DESIGN COMMISSION, UH, PRESENTATION, BUT OF COURSE WE WERE LOOKING FOR PRIORITY.
ONE WAS A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYBODY.
AND SO, UM, IT JUST, THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT HAPPENED.
AND SO, UH, THE DECISION WAS TO PRIORITIZE OUR SAFETY MORE THAN JUST A, KIND OF A SEQUENCING CALENDAR.
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WITH THAT, I DO ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO JUST ENCOURAGE CONTINUAL COMMUNICATION WITH THE BOARD, WITH THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE MORE INTO THE REFINEMENT OF THE DESIGN.UM, I AM EXCITED THAT WE NOW HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL DRAWINGS THAT WE CAN POINT TO SKETCH OVER AND BEGIN TO REALLY, UM, UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THE PHASE TWO WAS REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO BRING FOR THE MAC USERS.
UM, AND REALLY WITH THAT, UM, UH, VICE CHAIR, NAVARRO, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO SUPPORTING THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE WITH A BOARD VOTE CHAIR? I'VE BEEN CONTEMPLATING THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW, UH, UP TO AND INCLUDING BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, UH, TONIGHT, I DON'T THINK SO.
UH, I'M NOT INCLINED TO, TO SUPPORT, UH, APPROVAL OF, OF, OF THIS CHROMATIC.
I THINK THERE'S TOO MANY OPEN AREAS OF, OF CONCERN FOR ME.
UH, HOWEVER, THE WILL OF THE BOARD IS CERTAINLY, UH, APPLIES, APPLIES HERE.
UM, I KNOW WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR ANOTHER MEETING ON FEBRUARY 2ND.
UH, THE, THE DRAFT AGENDA, IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS FOR THAT MEETING, I DON'T THINK INCLUDED, UM, UM, IF WE DON'T VOTE TONIGHT, UH, I DIDN'T SEE IT.
I DIDN'T SEE IT POSTED FOR NEXT NEXT WEEK'S MEETING OR FEBRUARY 2ND MEETING.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, BUT, UH, WHATEVER THE MAJORITY WILL OR THE BOARD IS, IS WHAT ELSE GO WITH.
YEAH, I THINK THE, AGAIN, THE REASON WHY THE, THE TROUBLE AND SCHEDULING THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE HERE AT CITY HALL TO BE ABLE TO BE ON ATX.
AND SO HOPEFULLY WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WATCHING AT HOME.
UM, I, UM, I'M OKAY WITH DELAYING A VOTE FOR SUPPORT.
I, I, I DO, UH, WANT TO STATE THAT.
I THINK WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING IN A REALLY POSITIVE DIRECTION WITH THE DESIGN, BUT I DO STILL FEEL THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE, UM, AN EMPHASIS ON THAT, ON THE COLLABORATION, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THE CLIENT HERE IS THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT COME IN SPEAK AND ASK TO BE, UH, CONSIDERED IN, IN, IN THE DESIGN DETAILING.
UM, AND SO I, I I'M OKAY WITH DELAYING THE VOTE ON APPROVAL UNTIL OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED, UH, SCHEDULED MEETING NEXT WEEK.
UH, HOPEFULLY BY THEN OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE WATCHING AT HOME, UH, WE CAN SPEAK TO THEM FROM BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, HEIDI, MIGUEL, UM, KWAN AND, UM, MARIANA AND EVERYONE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OF COURSE A VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART, AND WE DO APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO, UM, INTO THE DESIGN OF OUR PHASE TWO FOR OUR MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER, YOU KNOW, LISTENING INTO THE DESIGN COMMISSION AND THE COMMENTS THAT THEY SHARED.
UM, I DO WANT TO STRESS SOME THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD WITH THE ACCESSIBILITY, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS AS WELL AS THE SAFETY AT NIGHT PAST 10 O'CLOCK, IF YOU'RE ON THE TRAIL AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET HOME, UH, WHAT THAT REALITY MIGHT BE LIKE.
SO PLEASE, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, TAKE THOSE COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AND CERTAINLY, UH, THE FUNCTION OF THE ZOCALO FOR A MULTITUDE OF EVENTS FROM 400 TO 3000.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK SOME OF THE DRAWINGS, MIGUEL, THAT YOU MENTIONED, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF SEE SO WE CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE REASONS, UM, FOR CERTAIN GESTURES, BUT, UM, I'M EXCITED FOR, FOR THE EVOLUTION OF THE DESIGN.
AND WITH THAT, I THINK, UM, I WILL I'M, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UM, END THE MEETING AND, UH, BUT, UH, I THINK FOR THE FEBRUARY 2ND, REGULAR SKULL, A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, IF WE COULD INCLUDE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, UM, IF YOU COULD PLEASE ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA.
DO I HEAR A SECOND FOR ENDING THE MEETING SECOND?
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ALRIGHT.AND AGAIN, TO OUR PRESENTERS, UH, APPRECIATE AGAIN.
AND, UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE DESIGN AS IT EVOLVES.
IF YOU LET US KNOW IF YOU NEED A, IF WE CAN BE IN THE MEETINGS TO TALK OR NOT, OR PROBABLY NOT.
WELL, WE ARE ALSO LIMITED TO THE CONTRACT, SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, BUT WE, WE CAN DISCUSS SURE.