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[CALL TO ORDER ]

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GOOD EVENING.

I'M RYAN CLINTON.

I'M THE VICE CHAIR OF THE AUSTIN ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION AND ACTING AS CHAIR TODAY BECAUSE OUR CHAIR DRAG NASER IS UNDER THE WEATHER TODAY.

HE'S ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON AND CRAIG.

WE HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER VERY, VERY SOON.

UM, I WOULD REMIND EVERYONE THAT, UM, TO SPEAK UP, IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEM, UH, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE LIST OF SPEAKERS.

TODAY IS FEBRUARY 14TH, 2022, AND IT IS 6:00 PM.

SO LET'S GO DOWN THE LIST REAL QUICK.

UM, THE CALL ROLL CRAIG.

NASER HERE, RYAN FLYNN.

I'M HERE.

NANCY NEMER.

LISA MITCHELL HERE.

KATIE JOEL HERE.

HOMER NYE HOUSE HERE.

EDWARD FLORES, NOT PRESENT.

DR.

BRANDIS.

JOHN BRANDIS IS ABSENT TODAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE MONICA FRIEND AND IS ABSENT JOANNE NORTON HERE.

AND RYAN, I'M SORRY.

UM, SOMEONE WHO'S WATCHING MESSAGED ME AND SAID THEY COULDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET THE IT GROUP KNOW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT MAY HAVE BEEN FIXED.

UM, BUT WE'LL LET THEM KNOW THEY'RE HERE.

I'LL JUST GO ON AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL STOP TO SEE IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

A LOT OF SMUGGLER, LUIS HERRERA, AND BAYER TO LIST THOSE ITEMS HERE.

DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR US OR SHOULD WE JUST MOVE ON? CAN YOU STAND BY REAL QUICK, PLEASE? READY.

HE SAID THEY CAN, I'VE HEARD EVERY PART OF THE MEETING SO FAR.

I HEARD THE FACEBOOK PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR IT.

CAN YOU HEAR THIS CHECK 1, 1, 2.

I'M NOT A MEMBER OF ANY MORE, BUT YEAH, I COULD SEE IT.

I CAN SEE IT ON THE VIEW HERE.

OH, I'D LIKE IT, IT COMES UP THE WORDS.

OKAY.

THEN THAT MIGHT BE A USE.

I JUST TEXTED A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT I KNEW WERE LISTENING AND THEY ALL SAID THEY CAN HEAR EVERYTHING FINE.

THANKS VERY MUCH FOR HANDLING THAT.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF REGISTERED SPEAKERS BEFORE, UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT THOUGH, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER.

UM, BAYER, AS I UNDERSTAND, UH, YOU, YOU PREFER TO BE CALLED, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF QUICKLY? YES.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M HONORED AND FLATTERED TO BE PART OF THIS COMMISSION, UH, HAVE BEEN AUSTIN FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS, CAME TO UT AND, UH, I LOVED THE CITY.

I LOVE WHAT THE CITY, UH, HOW WE HAVE BECOME A NO KILL CITY.

AND, UM, I HOPE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONVERSATION AND CONTINUED THE RIGHT PATH TO TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND BEING A PART OF THE COMMISSION.

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL ]

SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, UH, REGISTERED.

THE SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UM, AS A REMINDER, IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY POWER HERE, UH, TO CUT OFF THAT MIC, UH, THAT HAPPENS, UH, NOT IN THIS ROOM.

SO YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND, UH, AT LEAST IN MY PAST EXPERIENCE THAT THAT'S ALL YOU'LL GET.

UM, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS JOANNE

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THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CRAIG DOESN'T SHOW UP TO BE IN CHARGE ALL HECK BREAKS, LOOSE.

HELLO? WE CAN HEAR YOU.

OH, GOOD.

OKAY, SO I'M GOOD TO GO.

YES, PLEASE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS JOANNE .

I'M A CURRENT VOLUNTEER AT THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER AND I WALKED DOGS FOR FOUR HOURS TWICE A WEEK.

I'VE BEEN AT THE SHELTER FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS.

UM, I HELPED DO OTHER VARIOUS THINGS, MAKING SURE ALL THE DOGS GET KURANDA BEDS AND HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE, WHEN IT'S SAFE, I WILL CONTINUE LEADING ONE-TIME PUBLIC GROUPS.

UM, THE REASON I'M SPEAKING TODAY IS TO REQUEST THAT AN ITEM BE PUT ON MARCH'S AGENDA.

THE ITEM WILL BE TO FORM A WORKING GROUP THAT WILL HAVE COMMUNITY INPUT ABOUT THE ANIMAL SERVICES BUDGET, BEING AT THE SHELTER, AS MUCH AS I AM.

I SEE A NEED EACH AND EVERY TIME OVER EVERY SINGLE YEAR, WHETHER IT'S CORONAVIRUS TIME OR NOT, UM, FOR NEED FOR MORE STAFF IN VARIOUS AREAS, SUCH AS ANIMAL CARE DOG, WALKING BEHAVIOR, TEAM MEMBERS, TO HELP WITH BEHAVIOR ISSUES AND DEFINITELY PLAYGROUP.

UM, WE'RE OFTEN ALSO SHORT ON KENNELS.

SO THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A SATELLITE LOCATION, WHICH I KNOW HAS BEEN IN TALKS FOR YEARS AND YEARS, UM, IS ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DISCUSSED IN THIS WORKING GROUP.

UM, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE INPUT AND FOR US TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR SHELTER AND THIS WORKING GROUP WILL BE JUST THAT.

SO I JUST REQUEST IT.

IT'D BE PUT ON MARCH'S AGENDA AND THANKS SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, JOANNE.

NEXT IS WENDY MURPHY.

YEAH.

HELLO.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YOU CAN HEAR ME.

OKAY.

HI, MY NAME IS WENDY MURPHY.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF NORTH AUSTIN FOR 30 YEARS.

AND FOR MOST OF THAT 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN WORKING IN ONE CAPACITY OR ANOTHER TO ADVOCATE FOR THE WELFARE OF ANIMALS.

30 YEARS IS A LONG TIME AND I'VE SEEN MANY, MANY CHANGES IN AUSTIN, BUT ONE THING REALLY HASN'T CHANGED OVERALL.

THERE ARE TOO MANY UNWANTED DOGS AND CATS AND THEY ARE SUFFERING.

THE SHELTER RIGHT NOW IS AGAIN, FILLED TO CAPACITY AND BEGGING AUSTINITES TO EITHER FOSTER OR ADOPT FOR FREE GIVING AWAY ANIMALS VERY QUICKLY.

AND FOR FREE IS A VERY, VERY UNDESIRABLE WAY OF DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE.

EVEN IF IT'S A TEMPORARY ONCE IN AWHILE TYPE OF THING.

UM, THE CITY IS FULL OF, UH, TNR, TRAPPERS, VOLUNTEERS, SHELTER WORKERS, RESCUE GROUPS, AGENCIES, EVERYBODY IS WANTS TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

REALLY HARDWORKING, DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT ANIMALS, BUT IT NEVER QUITE HAPPENS.

IT NEVER QUITE COMES TOGETHER.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A GIANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE MISSING.

AND THAT PIECE IS SPAY NEUTER OR SPAY.

NEUTER IS SOMETIMES DISMISSED AS NOT THAT IT'S NOT THAT IMPORTANT, WHICH IS TOTALLY BAFFLING.

UM, OTHER TIMES IT IS ACKNOWLEDGED, BUT IT'S NOT GIVEN QUITE ENOUGH MONEY OR RESOURCES OR TIME OR ATTENTION TO MAKE A REAL DENT IN THE PROBLEM FIXING THIS IS GOING TO TAKE EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER.

EVERY PERSON, EVERY SHELTER, EVERY WELFARE GROUP TO TRULY FIX THIS AND NOT JUST PUT TEMPORARY BAND-AIDS ON IT.

THEY NEUTER NEEDS TO BE PROMOTED THROUGH EDUCATION.

IT NEEDS TO BE WIDELY AVAILABLE AND IT NEEDS TO BE PROPERLY FUNDED.

I'M ASKING THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION TO TAKE ON TO FORM A WORKING GROUP ON SPAY NEUTER TO FIND OUT IF THE FUNDING IS ADEQUATE, FIND OUT IF THE SHELTER IS GETTING WHAT THEY NEED SPECIFICALLY FOR SPAY-NEUTER.

AND IS IT GOING SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY TO SPAY NEUTER ALSO, HOW CAN WE MAKE IT MORE AVAILABLE AND AFFORDABLE TO EVERYONE IN EVERY PART OF TOWN? YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN PEOPLE WERE VERY RELUCTANT TO HAVE THEIR ANIMALS FIXED.

EVEN I WAS ONCE BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM AND HOW I WAS CONTRIBUTING TO IT.

IF I THINK NOWADAYS MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND THEY REALLY DO WANT TO GET THEIR PETS FIXED, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT.

IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT NEEDS TO BE OR SHOULD BE.

WE NEED TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND AFFORDABLE.

IF WE DO, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND THE HELPFUL THING I KNOW SPAY-NEUTER, ISN'T THE MOST EXCITING TOPIC IN THE WORLD AND IT OFTEN FAILS TO CAPTURE PEOPLE'S INTEREST OR ATTENTION, BUT IT IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO TO HELP SOLVE THE SEEMINGLY NEVER ENDING PROBLEM OF STRAY ANIMALS, OVERCROWDED SHELTER, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE SUFFERING OF

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UNWANTED ANIMALS.

SO I, I W ASK ONCE AGAIN, IF THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION COULD PLEASE CONSIDER FORMING A WORKING GROUP TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF SPAY-NEUTER.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

THANK YOU, WENDY.

NEXT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

UM, I WAS ACTUALLY WONDERING IF I SHOULD BE TIMING, SO I'M GLAD THAT'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF.

NEXT ON THE LIST IS BEVERLEY LUNA.

HELLO, BEVERLY LUNA.

THIS IS CITY HALL.

ARE YOU THERE? BEVERLY? WE COULD NOT LOCATE YOU IF YOU ARE LISTENING.

UM, YOU MAY WANT TO ATTEMPT TO CALL BACK IN.

WE DID NOT GET YOU.

THE NEXT IS RON COCOMO.

HELLO, RON, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN PLEASE GO AHEAD.

DO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? HI, I'M FROM EL PASO, TEXAS.

AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A IDEA OF WHAT ACTUALLY IS HAPPENING IN EL PASO.

OUR SHELTER, WE WENT TO THE AUSTIN PETS ALIVE HAAS PROGRAM HAS BECOME A COMPLETE DISASTER.

WE HAD PETS, STRAYS RUNNING LOOSE EVERYWHERE.

WE HAVE MAMAS.

WE GOT BABIES.

WE HAVE DISEASE EVERYWHERE.

OUR SHELTER IS A COMPLETE DISASTER.

OUR SHELTER IS AVERAGING A LITTLE OVER 550 LESS ADOPTIONS A MONTH BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY OF EL PASO IS FED UP WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR SHELTER.

OUR RESCUES ARE ABOUT 1800 DOWN.

UH, FOR 10 MONTHS, 2021 ARE RETURNED TO OWNER.

ACCORDING TO OUR DIRECTOR IS 38%, WHICH IS A PRETTY COMMON NUMBER FOR HAAS PROGRAM, UH, SHELTERS.

HOWEVER, OURS IS NOT EVER ACHIEVED IT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE ACTUALLY SAID THEY HAVE, UM, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS THE DISHONESTY THAT'S COMING FROM OUR SHELTER.

AND THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE ARE NOT SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIATED.

BY FACT, OUR, UH, ONE OF OUR MANAGERS SAID TO OUR MAYOR THE OTHER DAY, OUR REASON WHY OUR SHELTER ADOPTIONS ARE LOW IS BECAUSE THERE'S A 60% DECREASE IN ADOPTIONS NATIONWIDE.

UM, IF YOU CHECK, YOU WILL FIND OUT THERE'S A 21% DECREASE IN ADOPTIONS AND TEXAS IS ACTUALLY ABOVE THE AVERAGE.

SO I, I, I, AGAIN, WE HAVE FALSE INFORMATION COMING FROM OUR SHELTER, WHICH IS FED THROUGH AUSTIN, PETS ALIVE.

WE GOT ELLEN JEFFERSON TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR OUR REALLY GOOD LIVE RELEASE RATES IN 2017 AND AUSTIN PETS ALIVE.

AND, AND, UH, MS. JEFFERSON HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH EL PASO ANIMAL SERVICES.

AT THE TIME.

IT'S TIME, YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING IN THESE CITIES THAT HAVE THIS PROGRAM AND KNOW WHAT'S TRUE, AND WHAT'S NOT TRUE.

THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE BY PAULA POWELL AND RAMON HERRERA ARE FALSE, COMPLETELY FALSE.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE FACTS CHECK WITH OUR CITY SHELTER REPORTS, IT WILL EXPLAIN EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW.

AND IT SHOWS IN DETAIL WHAT A FAILURE EL PASO ANIMAL SERVICES AND THE HAAS PROGRAM HAS BEEN.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (915) 694-6411.

I WOULD LOVE TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL AT WHAT KIND OF A PROBLEM WE ARE HAVING IN THIS CITY BECAUSE OF AUSTIN PETS, ALIVE HAAS PROGRAM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, RON.

NEXT IS PET THOSE THREE US.

HELLO? HELLO, PAT, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I, CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN PLEASE GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, MY NAME IS PAT .

I AM A LONG-TERM CITY OF AUSTIN RESIDENTS AND FROM 1992, UNTIL 2008, I WAS ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

I CURRENTLY LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE, EXCEPT THAT WAS, UM, REDISTRICTING.

I HAVE BEEN MOVED INTO DISTRICT THREE.

I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION, PUTTING AN ITEM ON THE MARCH AGENDA TO CREATE A WORKING GROUP,

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TO DISCUSS THE ANIMAL SERVICES BUDGET.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ANIMAL SERVICES BUDGET, UM, LOOK AT THE SPAY-NEUTER FUNDING AND SEE IF WE ARE FUNDING SPENDING ADEQUATELY.

THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN POPULATION IN AUSTIN, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE SPAY-NEUTER FUNDING HAS KEPT UP WITH THE GROWTH IN POPULATION.

SIMILARLY, THE ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH THE GROWTH IN POPULATION AND ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS HAVE STAYED ABOUT THE SAME FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, EVEN THOUGH I THINK AS FAR BACK AS FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO, MAYBE SEVEN YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A STUDY THAT WE WERE UNDER BY 17 AND ACCORDING TO NATIONAL STANDARDS OF HOW MANY ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS THEY SHOULD HAVE PER POPULATION, IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR SAY IT, I'VE HEARD VARIOUS PEOPLE DISCUSS IT, BUT NOTHING GETS DONE.

AND THE COMMISSION DOESN'T DISCUSS HOW MANY ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS AND HOW MUCH THEY KNEW THEIR FUNDING WE SHOULD HAVE FOR A CITY THIS SIZE AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANT TO SUPPORT WHAT JOANNE MOLINA.

WE SAID ABOUT, UM, THE ANIMAL CARE BUDGET AND THE, AND THE ANIMAL SHELTER BUDGET, WHICH IS ALSO UNDERFUNDED.

IT DOES NOT MATTER TO ME THAT WE ARE BETTER FUNDED THAN EL PASO, BECAUSE AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM RON EL PASO IS NOT DOING VERY WELL.

IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT WE'RE BETTER FUNDED THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN, IN TEXAS BECAUSE OUR CITIES IN TEXAS ARE NOT DOING VERY WELL.

WHEN IT COMES TO ANIMAL SERVICES.

WE HAVE BEEN A LEADER IN THE PAST.

I WANT US TO CONTINUE TO BE A LEADER AND TO BE A LEADER IN ANIMAL SERVICES.

WE NEED ADEQUATE FUNDING.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WORKING GROUP ON ANIMAL SHELTER, BUDGETING TO LOOK AT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL IN JULY AND AUGUST OR PRO PREFERABLY IN JUNE.

SO THAT BY JULY AND AUGUST, WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS WELL-PUBLICIZED AND THE COMMUNITY CAN GET BEHIND IT.

I HEAR GREAT WORK BEING DONE BY VOLUNTEERS.

LET'S APPRECIATE THE VOLUNTEERS, BUT GIVING THEM A VOICE, HAVING A WORKING GROUP THAT THEY CAN COME AND SPEAK TO ABOUT THE NEEDS THAT THEY SEE.

AND IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION, I SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTACT AND SPEAK TO MORE VOLUNTEERS.

UM, DEFINITELY THE TWO THAT ARE ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION AND DEFINITELY JOANNE, SINCE SHE HAS TAKEN THE TIME TO SPEAK.

BUT THERE ARE ALSO MANY, MANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS WHO CAN GIVE YOU A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.

AND THEN YOU CAN PUT THAT INTO THE, UM, DISCUSSION OF THE WORK AND GROUP, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL, WE'LL COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND ASK FOR ADEQUATELY FUNDED ANIMAL SHELTERS.

SPAY-NEUTER PROGRAM ANIMALS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, NEXT IS SANDRA MUELLER.

SANDRA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR US? YEAH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, HI.

IT IS SANDRA MOHLER.

UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I'M IN CURRENTLY.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE SOON.

I'M CALLING IN REGARDING SENIOR ANIMAL TRANSFERS TO RELAX.

SO A FEW MONTHS AGO THERE WAS A TRAGEDY THAT I HOPE WITH GUIDANCE FROM THIS COMMISSION OF SIMPLE POLICY CHANGE AND A COLLABORATION BETWEEN AAC AND APA.

WELL, WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

SO AT THE END OF NOVEMBER, AAC TRANSFERRED A TEN-YEAR-OLD DOG NAMED YEGOR WITH A BLEEDING TUMOR TO APA.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

HIS NAME CHANGED TO HERSCHEL AND HE WENT TO PLAY GROUPS, BUT HE WASN'T PLED FOR FOSTER.

ABOUT TWO WEEKS LATER, HE DIED IN TILA KENNEL NUMBER 2 46 A MONTH LATER, ANOTHER YEAR OLD DOG NAMED LANGSTON WHO HAS POOR USE OF HIS RIGHT FRONT LEG.

CAUSE IT NEEDS AMPUTATION WAS TRANSFERRED TO APA KENNEL.

NUMBER 22, AFTER A JANUARY 24 POSTS ON THE APA SENIOR CLASS FACEBOOK PAGE, HE WAS PRE-ADOPTIVE THAT'S GREAT NEWS.

BUT DURING HIS 25 DAYS AND A TILA KENNEL, THERE WERE SIX OVERNIGHT FREEZES AND APA PUT APPROXIMATELY 75 OTHER DOGS INTO FOSTER DURING THAT TIME.

SO AUSTIN IS SUPPOSED TO BE ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DENTAL WORLD, ESPECIALLY AS THIS LEADER IN, IN NO-KILL AND THEIR HOUSING SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THEIR MEDICAL AND HEALTH NEEDS.

SO I'M ASKING YOU, PLEASE GET TOGETHER AND ONLY ALLOW SENIOR DOGS TO TRANSFER DIRECTLY TO FOSTER HOMES.

JUST LIKE THEY, THE POPULATION OF SENIORS IS REALLY SMALL.

SO I THINK YOU CAN EASILY MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE ALL WORK TOGETHER.

AND ON TOP OF IT, AS SOME OF THIS PROBABLY STEMS FROM BUDGET AND STAFFING ISSUES,

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I'D LIKE TO ALSO SUGGEST CREATING A WORKING GROUP TO ASSIST IN GETTING MORE FUNDING FOR THIS CITY'S ANIMAL SERVICES BUDGET, AND APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

OH, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MONICA FRIENDS IN ON HER NEW POSITION AS CHIEF INNOVATIVE OFFICER AT CINCINNATI ANIMAL CARE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD NIGHT.

THANK YOU, SANDRA.

AND THEN IN PERSON, WE HAVE AMBER ROUND.

HOW ABOUT RIGHT HERE? AMBER? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME THROUGH MY MASK OR DO I NEED TO PUSH THIS TEST TEST? MY NAME IS AMBER ROLAND RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE.

I'M PRETTY SURE MEMBER OF MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION UNDERSTAND THAT A FEW KEY STATISTICS CAN PROVIDE IMPORTANT INSIGHTS INTO THE OPERATIONS OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER, LIVE INTAKE NUMBERS, AND THEN LIVE OUTCOME EUTHANASIA AND DIED IN CARE.

RATES ARE ESPECIALLY INFORMATIVE.

AND ANYONE WHO RUNS A SHELTER KNOWS THIS.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS ESPECIALLY DISHEARTENING TO HEAR DR.

ELLEN JEFFERSON GROSSLY MISREPRESENT THE CITY SHELTER DURING A PRESS CONFERENCE ON FEBRUARY 8TH IN FRONT OF A CROWD OF SUPPORTERS AND MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA WHILE STANDING ALONGSIDE COUNCIL MEMBERS TOBO AND POOL.

SHE STATED THAT WHEN APA WAS GETTING STARTED AS A RESCUE ORGANIZATION IN 2009, THE CITY SHELTERS DEATH RATE WAS 85%.

IT SOUNDED LIKE SHE SAID THIS MANY TIMES I WAS A MEMBER OF THE STAFF AT THE CITY SHELTER IN 2009.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT OUR DEATH RATE WAS NOWHERE NEAR 85%.

IN FACT, THE FIGURE SHE GAVE WAS MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF TIMES.

THE ACTUAL FIGURE IN FISCAL YEAR, 2009, AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES TOOK IN 20,507 LIVE ANIMALS.

APA TOOK 145 OF THOSE ANIMALS.

THE CITY SHELTER HAD A 67.5 LIVE RELEASE RATE THAT YEAR, MEANING THAT THE DEATH RATE FOR THAT YEAR WAS 32.5%, NOT 85%.

THIS IS NO MINOR ERROR OR SIMPLE MISTAKE.

THE CITY SHELTER WAS OPEN AND TRANSPARENT WITH THESE STATISTICS AT THE TIME THEY'RE PART OF PUBLIC RECORD.

AND IN FACT, THEY WERE PRESENTED TO THIS BODY.

SOME MEMBERS HERE TODAY HAD SEATS ON THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, MY HOPE AND SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY AS THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY AND PERHAPS CURRENT ANIMAL SERVICES OR CITY LEADERSHIP WILL MAKE A PUBLIC CALL FOR DR.

JEFFERSON TO MAKE A PUBLIC CORRECTION AND APOLOGY FOR HER MISSTATEMENT, IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE.

SO TO ALLOW HER STATEMENT TO STAND AS TO ALLOW TO STAND AN UNFAIR AND HIGHLY INACCURATE PORTRAYAL OF A MUNICIPAL PROGRAM, EFFORT AND INTENTIONS, IT MIS-CHARACTERIZES A LARGE GROUP OF CITY STAFF, VOLUNTEERS, AND CITY OFFICIALS WHO HAD WORKED DILIGENTLY AND RESPONSIBLY TO REDUCE THE CITY'S EUTHANASIA RATE FROM 58% IN 2002, UNDER 33% IN 2009, WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT HELP FROM APA AS A RESCUE ORGANIZATION.

I HOPE THAT MY BRINGING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION WILL ALSO CAUSE YOU TO CONSIDER TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE, WHY WOULD DR.

JEFFERSON CHOOSE TO MAKE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT MISSTATEMENT? IS SHE TRYING TO MAKE APA LOOK BETTER? IS SHE TRYING TO MAKE THE CITY SHELTER LOOK WORSE TO HAVING SUCH MISSTATEMENTS OF FACT, ESPECIALLY WHEN MADE BY THOSE, THE PUBLIC AND THE MEDIA THINK THEY CAN TRUST AS AUTHORITIES POTENTIALLY IMPACT ATTITUDES, BEHAVIORS, AND EVEN POLICY AND OPERATIONAL DECISIONS THAT MIGHT BE MADE BY THOSE WHO HEAR THEM.

I HAVE NO INTEREST IN DISPARAGING, THE WORK OF APA OR OF DR.

JEFFERSON.

THEY DO HARD AND IMPORTANT WORK, AND THEY'VE ABSOLUTELY BEEN IMPACTFUL IN THE WORLD OF SHELTERING, BUT I DO HAVE A VERY STRONG INTEREST IN THE INTEGRITY OF THE CITY'S PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

AND IT IS BAFFLING TO ME THAT DR.

JEFFERSON APA AND MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION, MOST OF WHOM HAVE DIRECT TIES TO APA ARE ALLOWED TO CALL THEMSELVES PARTNERS OF AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES WHILE THEY CONTINUE YEAR AFTER YEAR TO MISREPRESENT MULLEIN AND OVER SCRUTINIZE, A CITY PROGRAM THAT HAS A DEFINITIVE 20 PLUS YEAR HISTORY OF STEADY, EFFECTIVE, RESPONSIBLE, AND DEEPLY COMPASSIONATE WORK AND PROGRESS.

THIS IS AN ONGOING AND TOXIC PATTERN AND IT NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT AND STOPPED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, AMBER.

WE WILL

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

FIRST MOVE TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 11TH, 2021, AN ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES LEASE? WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION.

LUIS, DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, LOTTA SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT, PROVING THE MINUTES.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AS FAR AS I CAN TELL WE'LL MOVE

[2a. Austin Animal Center and Animal Services Reports. ]

ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS, UH, INTO A IS AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER AND ANIMAL SERVICES REPORTS.

HELLO, TEST, TEST.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

UM, UH, I'LL TRY TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS

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POSSIBLE SINCE WE GOT TO GO OVER A FEW REPORTS.

SO I'LL START OFF WITH SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR OCTOBER.

THE LIVE PERCENTAGE WAS 97.8%.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 1,249 ANIMALS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER.

734 ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED AND A TOTAL OF 139 DOGS AND CATS ARE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNERS, UM, THROUGH EITHER RTO OR RTO ADOPTS.

UM, WE HAD APS RETURNED 35 ANIMALS TO THEIR OWNERS IN THE FIELD.

UM, WE WERE ABLE TO HAND OUT 42, UH, FENCING ASSISTANT APPLICATIONS.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 166 VOLUNTEERS DONATE 1500 OVER 1500 HOURS, UH, TO THE SHELTER.

UM, THERE WERE CURRENT, THEY WERE AT THE TIME 273 ANIMALS IN FOSTER HOMES AND 251 ANIMALS WERE TRANSFERRED TO OUR PARTNERS.

UM, AND FOR WITHIN VET SERVICES, WE TREATED 59 CASES THAT MONTH WE CONDUCTED 565, UH, SPAY AND NEUTER EACH ONSITE.

WE HAD 19 CATS GO THROUGH SNR AND LET ME GET, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

WHILE I PUT UP THE FIGURE FROM EMANCIPET, THEY HAD 595, A SPAY AND NEUTERS ALSO ON, ON THAT MONTH, UH, THROUGH THE SUBSIDIZED CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.

UM, SO THAT'S A QUICK OVERVIEW OVER AT LEAST, UH, OH, SORRY.

LET ME HIT UP ON WHAT PRC DID PET RESOURCE CENTER.

THEY HANDED OUT OVER 1800 BASIC ITEMS, FOODS, BEDS, LEASHES TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

UH, WE HAD 193 FOUND ANIMAL REPORTS AND 270 LOST ANIMAL REPORTS THAT WERE FILED.

AND WE HAD 165 NEW SUBSCRIBERS TO THE ATX, UH, PROGRAM, THE TX PROGRAM, SORRY.

UM, IN NOVEMBER, UH, ON THE REPORT, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF DISCREPANCY.

UH, WE, WE DIDN'T, UH, PULL OUT THE DIED FROM THE LIVE OUTCOME PERCENTAGE.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY THE LIVE ALCOR PRESENT FOR NOVEMBER WAS 98.

IT'S LIKE 97.9, 6%.

SO 98%.

AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ANIMALS THAT WERE BROUGHT IN WAS ACTUALLY 1020.

UH, WE, WE WERE STILL COUNTING THE ANIMALS THAT WERE LOST IN THE WEB AND WE FORGOT TO TAKE THOSE OUT.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY 1020 ANIMALS WERE BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER.

634 ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED AND TOTAL OF 119 DOGS AND CATS WERE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNERS.

UH, APLS WERE ABLE TO RETURN 41 ANIMALS IN THE FIELD TO THEIR OWNERS.

UM, 142 VOLUNTEERS ADDED, UH, DONATED 17 OVER 1700 HOURS TO THE SHELTER IN NOVEMBER.

UM, AT THE TIME WE HAD 268 ANIMALS IN FOSTERS AND WE HAD 175 ANIMALS THAT WERE TRANSFERRED TO OUR DIFFERENT PARTNERS.

UH, FOR THAT MONTH WE PERFORMED 474 SPAY NEWS SURGERIES ON SITE 14.

UH, CATS WENT THROUGH SNR 122 WENT THROUGH CNR.

WE HAD 330 GO THROUGH AS A SPAY NEW SURGERIES THROUGH AMANTHA PET.

AND THEN, UH, STAFF AND PRC WAS ABLE TO GIVE OUT 1900 ITEMS TO ER, UH, MEMBERS, RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAD 191 FOUND REPORTS AND 239 LOST ANIMAL REPORTS AND 124 NEW SUBSCRIBERS TO OUR TEST PROGRAM, UH, DECEMBER, EXCUSE ME, UH, OUR LIVE OUTCOME, WHAT PERCENT FOR THE DECEMBER WAS 97.3.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 992 ANIMALS BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER.

A TOTAL OF 673 ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED AND 148,000 CATS ARE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNERS.

UH, APO SAW A SLIGHT INCREASE WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO GET, UH, RETURNED HOME 55 ANIMALS TO, UH, TO, UH, OWNERS.

WE HAD ABOUT 165 VOLUNTEERS DONATE OVER 1900 HOURS TO THE SHELTER.

UM, WE DID GET, UH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

SORRY.

THAT WAS MY FACE THERE A LITTLE BIT.

UM, HE HAD 111 ANIMALS THAT WERE DIRECTLY, UH, ADOPTED FROM FOSTER CARE AND THERE WAS, WE HAD 191 ANIMALS THAT WERE, UH, PEOPLES THAT WERE FOSTERING.

UH, WE HAD 158 DOGS, CATS, GUINEA, PIGS THAT WERE TRANSFERRED TO OUR DIFFERENT PARTNERS, UM, VET SERVICES.

THEY HAD 570 SPAY NEUTER SURGERIES PERFORMED.

UM, THEY ALSO CONDUCTED 12 ORTHOPEDIC SURGERIES.

UH, THE AMOUNT OF WAS THAT REAL QUICK, THE AMOUNT OF SPAY NEUTER SURGERY DONE AT EMANCIPET FOR NOVEMBER WAS 436 OVERALL FOR NOVEMBER.

OUR, THIS I'M SORRY, DECEMBER WAS ACTUALLY, I GOTTA DO MORE MATH, UH, 496.

WE'RE DONE IN DECEMBER.

NOW, FINALLY IN JANUARY, UH, THE LIVE OUT HERBICIDES WAS 97%.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 934 ANIMALS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER.

647 ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED AND 125 DOGS AND CATS ARE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNER.

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UM, APO IS RETURNED 44 ANIMALS OUT IN THE FIELD.

THEY DID HAND OUT 26 FENCING APPLICATIONS.

UH, WE HAD SLIGHT INCREASE WITH 223 VOLUNTEERS DONATE, UH, OVER 2,400 HOURS TO THE SHELTER.

UM, HE HAD, UH, 218 ANIMALS IN FOSTER CARE FOR THAT MONTH.

UH, WE HAD 144 ANIMALS THAT WERE TRANSFERRED TO, UH, UH, RESCUE PARTNERS.

AND 38 DOGS WERE TRANSPORTED TO SIX OUT OF STATE RESCUE PARTNERS, UM, VET SERVICES.

THEY WERE ABLE TO DO, UH, 52 EMERGENCY CASES.

THEY DID 508 ANIMALS SPAYED AND NEUTERED.

UM, THEY DID GET THE MRI.

THE EMERGENCY BILL FOR JANUARY WAS 44,000.

I WOULD LOOK IT UP.

I THOUGHT WE HAD THAT IN ONE OF THE DRAFTS OF THE PREVIOUS REPORT.

SO I'LL ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THAT, THAT EMERGENCY BILL FOR THOSE PREVIOUS MONTHS.

SO THAT WAY Y'ALL HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

UH, PRC HANDED OUT OVER 2,600 ITEMS TO, UH, AREA RESIDENTS.

UM, WE HAD 11 DOGS THAT HAD BEHAVIOR ISSUES THAT WERE PROBABLY GOING TO BE OWNER SURRENDERED.

WE WERE ABLE TO DEFER THEM AND GIVE, UH, THOSE, THOSE INDIVIDUALS SERVICES, UH, THAT THEY COULD KEEP ON OTHER PETS.

AND WE HAD 238 POUND ANIMAL REPORTS AND 311 LOS ANIMAL REPORTS.

SO, UM, WITHOUT TAKING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, JASON, DID YOU SAY THE NUMBER OF SPAY AND NEUTERS THAT WERE FORMED AT A MASSIVE PET FOR JANUARY? OH, I'M SORRY.

IT DIDN'T HIT THAT ONE.

I DIDN'T SWITCH TO MY EMAIL REAL QUICK AND JANUARY WAS 216, GREG.

OKAY.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, UH, IN, IN, I THINK IT WAS, UH, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.

YOU HAVE, UM, NINE INJURED COYOTES.

DO YOU KNOW THE NATURE OF THOSE INJURIES? UH, NO I DO NOT, BUT I CAN FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU.

OKAY.

UH, ALSO THERE WAS, UM, UH, THERE ARE, UH, INCIDENTS COMING OUT OF, UM, OH, WHAT A GREAT HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT DEER BEING SHOT WITH A CROSSBOW.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF I KNOW THAT THERE IS A GAME WARDEN WHO'S LOOKING INTO THAT.

I JUST WONDERED IF, IF, IF ANY APS HAD ANY, UH, THAT DID WORK WITH THAT, MR. NIGER? NO, UH, THAT IS STRICTLY BEING HANDLED BY THE TEXAS WILDLIFE.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S ALL BEING HANDLED BY THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE SERVICE? CORRECT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, UM, I HEARD THAT WE'RE LOSING OUR, OUR DEDICATED WILDLIFE APO, AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF FIRST OF ALL, IF THAT WAS TRUE, I HEARD THAT SHE'S RESIGNING.

AND, AND IF THAT'S TRUE, ARE WE GOING TO GET A NEW ONE ANYTIME SOON, I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE TWO DEDICATED WILDLIFE OFFICERS.

UH, WE ADDED, YOU KNOW, THE, WE HA WE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO ADD IT.

WE HAD ONE FULL-TIME.

WE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE WHEN TEMPORARY TO FULL-TIME.

UM, WHEN WE IN THE NEW COUNTY ILA AND, UH, WHILE THAT POSITION WAS CREATED, WE COULD NOT ADD THAT POSITION UNTIL THE ILA WAS SIGNED.

SO, UH, THE ILA WAS SIGNED ON, UH, DECEMBER THE 21ST AND HR RELEASED THE POSITION ON J JANUARY THE THIRD, AND IT HAS BEEN POSTED, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF FILLING THAT PERMANENT POSITION.

AND THE ONE IS BEING RESIGNED IS ALSO BEING FILLED.

WE HAVE NOT, UH, SLACK ON ANY OF THE SERVICES FOR CALLS.

WE HAVE OUR OTHER APO OFFICERS HAVE TAKEN UP THOSE CALLS.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE SINCE LOSING THIS LAST APO OFFICER WAS, UH, FOR A WILDLIFE, WAS THE EDUCATION COMPONENT.

WE WEREN'T OUT IN THE COMMUNITY DOING PRESENTATIONS ON WHAT TO DO FOR WILDLIFE, YOU KNOW, TO MASS HOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WASN'T DONE ALL INJURED ANIMALS.

OUR ISSUES WITH ANIMALS HAS, HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.

OKAY.

UH, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I ASKED IS, UM, 12 YEARS AGO, WE HAD A WORKING GROUP THAT DEALT WITH DEERE ISSUES IN GREAT HILLS.

I MEAN, SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE BALCONIES CANADA AND PRESERVE THERE.

A LOT OF DEER OUT THERE AND WE

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PASSED AND THE CITY PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT AGAINST THE ORDINANCE, TO FEED DEER.

IN OTHER WORDS, TO HELP KEEP THEM OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THEY COME INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.

PEOPLE GET, SOME PEOPLE GET UPSET BECAUSE THEY EAT THEIR PLANTS AND EVERYTHING.

AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS PROBLEM WITH THE DEER BEING SHOT OUT THERE, WHICH I UNDERSTAND TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE IS THE BEST OR THE BEST PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

UH, BUT THAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE, UM, MAYBE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN GO OUT THERE AND GIVE PRESENTATIONS ABOUT IMPORTANT IS NOT TO FEED THE DEER.

SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS KINDA MY CONCERN WITH THIS WHOLE THING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS, JOANNE.

UM, BUT FIRST I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALWAYS BEING ABOVE 95%.

UM, IT'S NOT EASY, I'VE MONITORED OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS, LIKE DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES AND PALM VALLEY AND EL PASO FROM THE SPEAKER.

AND, UM, EVERYBODY'S STRUGGLING.

AND, UM, I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE STAFF AND THE VOLUNTEERS, UM, TO KEEP, UH, THE NUMBERS HIGH.

UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, WHERE AAC WAS AND THE DEATH RATE, UM, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THAT THE SPEAKER BROUGHT UP, UM, BASED ON, UH, AN EMAIL I RECEIVED FROM THE CITIZEN AND FROM WHAT I COULD RESEARCH, IT DOES SEEM LIKE, UH, THE, UH, WE WERE, UH, AROUND 32% OF THE ANIMALS THAT, THAT WERE KILLED NOT 85%.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE AT THE CITY HAS BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT TO CONFIRM WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE OR ARE.

UM, WE CAN CONFIRM THAT THROUGH OLD BUDGET DOCUMENTS, THOSE ARE PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN OLD DOG WINS.

THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT I KNOW THAT WE COULD REPORT IT.

UM, UM, I'LL SEE, AT LEAST, CAUSE I HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PRESENTATION THAT BACK IN SEPTEMBER WHERE THEY HAD THE IT FOLKS GIVE IT.

SO I HAVE THE SCREEN UP AND AT LEAST WITH THE DATA THAT THEY'RE, IT'S FILTERING OUT THROUGH, UM, UH, CHAMELEON, WHEN I PUT FOR 2009, LET ME MAKE SURE I'M GONNA MAKE SURE ALL THINGS ARE CHECKED.

UH, WE HAD A 67.2, FOUR, UH, LIVE OUTCOME RATE AT THAT TIME, ACCORDING TO ACCORDING TO THESE NUMBERS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THE CITIZEN WHO WROTE TO ME WAS CLOSER TO CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, JASON, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE, I HAVE A COUPLE, BUT I WILL, I WILL COMMENT ON THAT.

UH, I, UH, I HEARD THAT STATEMENT AS WELL AND, UH, IT WAS EQUALLY JARRING.

UM, BUT BECAUSE I'VE HEARD DR.

JEFFERSON GIVE HER PRESENTATION ON MANY OCCASIONS, I, UM, FEEL CONFIDENT, UH, AT LEAST AS SOMEONE WHO'S HEARD THE PRESENTATION MANY TIMES THAT, UH, THAT SHE MUST HAVE MISSPOKE BECAUSE APA DID NOT START IN 2009.

APA STARTED IN 1999.

AND AROUND THAT TIME, THAT WAS ROUGHLY THE LIVE RELEASE RATE OR THE DEATH RATE, THE 19 88, 19 98 OR 1999.

SO, UM, I ASSUME THAT'S WHAT SHE MEANT.

UH, IF SHE DIDN'T, THEN THAT WAS A VERY BAD ERROR, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE ALL WELL, MANY OF US, UM, PALMER, I, LISA, UM, NANCY, UH, MANY OF US WERE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD AT THE TIME.

UH, AND WE WOULD HAVE, AND ALONG WITH ELLEN AND MANY OTHERS, AND, UM, THAT APA DID NOT START IN 2009.

IT DIDN'T EVEN START RESCUING IN 2009 AND STARTED RESCUING 2008.

SO, UM, SHE MUST'VE MET 1999 AND NOT 2009.

THAT'S MY ONLY GUEST.

UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND MOST OF THESE, THESE ARE FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC I'VE EITHER SEEN ON PUBLIC FACE GROUP GROUPS OR, OR PEOPLE HAVE, HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT.

AND I JUST KINDA WANTED TO CHECK IN ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE FIRST IS, DO YOU KNOW HOW QUICKLY AN INTAKE ANIMAL SHOWS UP ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THE PHOTO, UH, IF IT SHOULD SHOW UP AS SOON AS IT'S UPLOADED INTO CHAMELEON, THE PHOTO ITSELF AND ATTACHED TO THAT EIGHT NUMBER THAT'S, UH, UM, AND ATTACHED TO THAT EIGHT NUMBER THAT'S CONNECTED TO THAT ANIMAL.

UM, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE'VE SEEN WHERE THERE'S A DELAY AND WE USUALLY HAVE TO CONTACT OUR IT DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE REFRESHING AND THINGS ARE WORKING FOR THAT NATURE.

CAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN EMAILS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, SOME OF OUR PARTNER GROUPS OUT THERE WHO SAY, HEY, IT'S NOT REFRESHING.

WE'RE LIKE A FEW DAYS LATE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE.

SO WE USUALLY WILL HAVE TO CONTACT OUR IT FOLKS AND BE LIKE, HEY, THIS THINGS AREN'T WORKING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO REFRESH THE SYSTEM

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ESSENTIALLY.

IS IT NORMALLY SAME DAY OR IS IT NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, A DATA LAKE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT AN EARLY SAME DAY? CAUSE YEAH.

CAUSE WITHIN PRC WHEN THEY GET THE ANIMAL THERE, I MEAN, WHEN THEY TAKE THE PHOTO OF THE ANIMAL, IT'S USUALLY RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE EITHER DOING VACCINATIONS AT THE POINT WHERE THE ANIMAL IS, IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL HAVE IT ON THE WALL JUST SO THAT THEY COULD, THEY COULD GET A, A BETTER SHOT SOMETIMES.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS WHERE WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO FIND PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS.

YOU KNOW, IF AN ANIMAL HAS TO BE PUT INTO LIKE A ROLLING CAGE FOR, FOR WHATNOT, WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THE PICTURE IN THE ROLLING CAGE AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW UP WITH THE PROPER PICTURE LATER AND THEN APLS DO IT AS WELL OUT IN THE FIELD.

CAUSE HE ASKED, THERE WAS PLENTY OF PHOTOS WHERE WE HAVE LIKE IN THE TRUCK, KNOW THEIR HEADS, THEY CAN OUT AND WHATNOT.

SO, UH, THE PERSON THAT I SAW COMPLAINING, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ANECDOTAL.

SO I MEAN, WE'RE JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION SO THAT IT'S OUT THERE SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR IT.

UM, AND IT MAY BE A PROBLEM WITH JUST THE WAY THAT THE WEBSITE REPORTS IT AND IT MAY JUST HAVE BEEN CONFUSING, BUT THE, THE, THE ANIMAL HAD COME IN IN DECEMBER AROUND CHRISTMAS AND IT WAS EARLY JANUARY AND THE PERSON SAID, JUST FOUND MY ANIMAL ON THE WEBSITE AND SHE TOOK A SCREENSHOT AND IT SAID, AND THE WEBSITE SAID UPLOADED ONE HOUR AGO OR, OR, OR UPDATED ONE HOUR AGO.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THAT UPDATED ONE HOUR AGO DID NOT MEAN THAT'S WHEN IT WENT INTO THE SYSTEM, BUT SOMETHING ELSE CHANGED AN HOUR AGO.

YEAH, THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN, THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN THE CASE BECAUSE YEAH.

SO I MEAN, I THINK IF I'M AND I MADE A MISTAKE IS NOT THE VERIFIED, BUT I THINK IF THERE'S LIKE A REFRESHER OF LIKE EVERY FOUR HOURS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S COMING IN IS, IS BEING PROCESSED AND THAT THE, UH, IT'S, IT STAYS UP TO DATE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

BUT I'LL VERIFY THAT, YES, I JUST TERRIFIED THE CHAMELEON UPDATES EVERY HOUR WITHIN EVERY HOUR.

OKAY.

SO THAT UPDATED WAS JUST A MATTER OF THE SYSTEM BEING UPDATED, NOT THAT ANIMALS SHOWING UP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE SYSTEM, IF THEY MADE A CHANGE, CHANGE THE PHOTOS, IT COULD HAVE UPDATED IT, RIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE AN UPDATE.

AND THAT MAY, HEY, THAT VOLUNTEER MAY HAVE SAVED THAT ANIMAL'S LIFE, YOU KNOW? UM, CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE PERSON FOUND THAT WAS, UH, WAS AN UPDATED PHOTO.

I GUESS SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THAT, UM, UH, SOME PEOPLE HAVE ARE SAYING THAT THE CITY HAS GONE BACK TO, UH, DEBUNKED, PLASTIC, HAND TEMPERAMENT, TEMPERAMENT TESTING, UM, IS THAT TRUE? PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THE CITY HAS GONE BACK TO, THEY HAD DEBUNKED PLASTIC, HAND TEMPERAMENT, TEMPERAMENT TESTING.

IS THAT HAPPENING AT ALL AT THE CITY? I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.

I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE'VE GONE BACK TO THAT, UH, OR, YOU KNOW YEAH.

IS THERE ANY TEMPERAMENT TESTING HAPPENING? SO I THINK THE PERSON SAID IT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE TRANSFERS.

I KNOW NOT, NOT WITHIN, WITHIN, UH, OUR GROUP OF ANIMALS.

LIKE WE, WHEN WE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR TRANSFER PARTNERS, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, THEY ASK US TO MAKE SURE, AND THEN WE SHARE THEM LIKE, THIS IS HOW OUR, OUR TEAM EVALUATE STUFF, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR, FOR OUR OVERALL BEHAVIOR EVALUATION.

THEN WE GET CONSENSUS.

LIKE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE PREFER.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

OKAY.

WE HAVE, YEAH, WE HAVE HAD A RESCUE THAT DID ASK US TO UTILIZE THEIR TESTING METHODS.

AND WE, LIKE JASON SAID PROVIDED TO THEM WITH HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THIS SUFFICIENT AND OKAY.

SO OUR CHAIN, OUR S OUR TEMPERAMENT TESTING HASN'T CHANGED IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS A YEAR.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

UM, THE NEXT THING THAT, THAT SOMEONE, AND I'M SORRY, WE'VE BEEN BUILDING UP CAUSE WE HAVEN'T MET.

UM, THE NEXT THING THAT, THAT SOMEONE WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WAS, UM, THE PEOPLE, UH, AUSTIN RESIDENTS TRYING TO ADOPT AN ANIMAL THAT HAD RBD HAD ALREADY BEEN TAGGED FOR RESCUE EVEN BEFORE THE ANIMAL HAD COME OFF THE STREET.

HOLD LAST TIME I WAS THERE, THERE WERE SIGNS UP THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, ANIMAL NOT YET AVAILABLE.

UM, AND I, AND I ASSUMED THAT WHAT, AT LEAST THE MESSAGE I GOT FROM THAT WAS THAT I COULDN'T LIKE ASK TO GET ON A PRE ADOPT.

UM, IS THERE A PRE ADOPT PROCESS OR A RESERVATION PROCESS? IF A, IF A RESIDENT WANTS TO ADOPT AN ANIMAL THAT IS ON THE STRAY HOLD THERE, THERE HAS NOT.

NO, NO.

I MEAN, I MEAN, WHAT I SAID TH THERE, THERE IS NOT A PROCESS, UH, EVER SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE ANY ANIMAL THAT'S ON STRAY HOLD THAT IS TAGGED BY A RESCUE ORGANIZATION, EVEN LOCAL ONES.

UM, IF IT COMES OFF AND THE OWNER DOES NOT RECLAIM IT, IT GOES TO THAT RESCUE PARTNER.

UH, CAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE RESCUE PARTNERS, WHEN THEY HAVE TAGGED AN ANIMAL, THEY HAVE ALREADY, UH, FOUND A FOSTER HOME FOR IT TO GO INTO AND THEY'VE DONE ALL THIS WORK.

AND IF YOU START ELIMINATING WHAT THEY'RE SELECTING, THEN YOU RISK LOSING THOSE PARTNERS.

AND SO THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PROCESS, UH, THINK THAT DID NOT, UH, THE MANAGER OVER THAT SAY

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THAT THEY WERE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING SOME PRE ADOPTIONS WE'RE GOING TO RE-INVESTIGATE THAT.

SO WE USED TO ALLOW PRE ADOPTS, BUT WE DON'T ALLOW THEM ANYMORE.

YEAH.

WE USED TO DO PRE ADOPTS BEFORE.

UM, BUT YEAH, WE, WE, WE, WE, UH, STOPPED THAT PROCESS ABOUT SIX, EIGHT MONTHS AGO.

UM, BECAUSE JUST TO, UH, YEAH, JUST TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAD A FAIR CHANCE OF TRYING TO, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, ADOPT AN ANIMAL OUT NOW WITH TRANSFERS.

YES.

LIKE DON WAS SAYING, IF IT'S ON STRAIGHT HOME, THEY CAN TAG IT.

BUT, UM, BUT IF NO ONE HAS ADOPTED THAT ANIMAL, THEN, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL PROVIDE A TWO TRANSFERS.

UM, AND THEN IF SOMEBODY DOES COME, WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS WHILE THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN TAGGED FOR TRANSFER OR, UM, OR, OR TO OUR RESCUE GROUP.

UM, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION.

WE DO THEN TRY TO HOOK THEM UP.

LIKE, HEY, IF YOU DO, IF YOU ARE REALLY THEATER THERE, IT IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HE MADE, DECIDED HE'S GOING TO FUZZY FRIENDS AND YOU CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THEM TO TRY TO GET THE SAMPLE FROM THEM.

UM, YEAH.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND JUST TO, TO KIND OF COMMUNICATE THE CONCERN IS THAT AUSTIN RESIDENTS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO OUR ANIMAL SHELTER, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR, WITH THEIR TAX DOLLARS.

AND THEY SEE AN ANIMAL ON THE WEBSITE THAT THEY FALL IN LOVE WITH, OR A PUPPY THAT COMES IN THAT THEY FALL IN LOVE WITH THEY'RE REALLY WANT A PUPPY.

THEY DON'T WANT TO GO OVER TO BUY, BUY FROM A BREEDER.

AND, UH, THEY'RE TOLD YOU GOT TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S STRAIGHT, HOLD IS UP.

AND THEN THEY GO, UM, I'M TOLD THIS HAS HAPPENED ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS WHERE PEOPLE WILL GET THERE AT 8:00 AM OR WHATEVER THE TIME THE SHELTER OPENS OFF WHEN THAT ANIMAL ROLLS OFF STRAY HOLD.

AND THEN THEY'RE TOLD, NOPE, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ON ITS WAY TO MICHIGAN OR CAL, YOU KNOW, COLORADO OR CALIFORNIA.

AND IT, THE CONCERN OF THE PUBLIC, AT LEAST THAT, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE IT'S OUR JOB TO COMMUNICATE IS THAT, HEY, THOSE ARE OUR TAX DOLLARS.

UM, WE'RE THE ONE PAYING FOR THAT PUPPY.

WE WERE THE ONES PAYING FOR THAT PUPPY TO BE THERE.

AND THEREFORE, UM, IT'S NOT FAIR.

IT'S INHERENTLY UNFAIR FOR OUR CITIZENS TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GET A BACK SEAT TO, YOU KNOW, A COLORADO RESCUE GROUP OR A CALIFORNIA RESCUE GROUP OR A MICHIGAN RESCUE GROUP.

SO, AND JUST GIVE YOU HISTORICAL DATA.

THE AVERAGE IS 14 DAYS IS THE AVERAGE TIME OF LENGTH OF STAY THAT ANIMALS ON OUR LAST TRANSPORT.

WE'RE STAYING IN THE SHELTER.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, VERY SMALL NUMBER OF INCIDENTS OF THE ONES AND TWOS THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT, OF COURSE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR ANIMALS HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE AND AT JUST BASIC CARE, NOT ANY OVERHEAD, BUT JUST BASIC, YOU KNOW, FEED WATER AND THE PERSON TO CLEAN THEIR KENNEL IS $43 A DAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE LONGER IT STAYS, THE MORE TAXPAYER DOLLARS, IT DOES COST THE TAXPAYERS.

SO, BUT THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY FOR THE LAST TRANSPORT WAS 14 DAYS.

YEAH.

AND I THINK THAT NO ONE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO COMPLAIN IN THAT SCENARIO.

UM, A LOT OF FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T MISS HERE, WHAT YOU SAID, JASON, AND THAT TRANS OR TRANSFER ORGANIZATIONS, RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALLOWED TO TAG AN ANIMAL WHILE IT'S ON STRAY HOLD, BUT INDIVIDUAL FROM THE PUBLIC CANNOT.

THEY CAN NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

SO IF IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IF THERE'S AN ANIMAL THAT'S ON STRONGHOLD AND A CITIZEN IS INTERESTED IN IT BEFORE THE RESCUE, THEN THE CITIZEN WOULDN'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY BEFORE THE RESCUE.

BUT IF THE RESCUE BEATS THEM TO IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.

RIGHT.

BUT AT THIS MOMENT, RESCUES CAN TAG AN ANIMAL ON STRAY HOLD, AN INDIVIDUAL CAN NOT WORKING ON CORRECTING THAT SHE'S WORKING, WORKING ON IT SO THAT THEY CAN, BECAUSE I KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, BACK IN THE DAY YOU USED THE PUBLIC WAS ABLE TO DO THAT.

I HAD ADOPTED ONE OF MY ANIMALS AS A PRE-ADOPTIVE WHEN IT WASN'T RECLAIMED, SO I KNOW IT USED TO BE DONE, SO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO I, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE PRE-ADOPTIVE.

UM, I HAD HEARD THAT ONE OF THE REASONS IT WAS STOPPED IS THAT, UM, CITIZENS WERE ANGRY AND DISAPPOINTED WHEN THEY PRE ADOPT AND THEN THE DOG WAS RECLAIMED AND THAT KIND OF BECAME AN ISSUE FOR STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, BUT HOPEFULLY IF WE CAN RESOLVE THAT, THEN BOTH CITIZENS AND RESCUES WILL GET A FAIR SHOT AT PRE ADOPTING ANIMALS.

I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE A FEW INSTANCES WHERE THAT HAPPENED AS WELL.

I THINK EVEN WITH THE LAW IN PLACE THAT NOW PROTECTS ADOPTERS FROM SORT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS AND WHATNOT, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO RE-LOOK AT THE FRONT, THE OVERALL POLICY AND SEE IF WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOMETHING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CRAIG? UM,

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YES, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY BECAUSE I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THIS WORKS.

UH, IF SO, UH, UH, YOU INTAKE AN ANIMAL INTO THE SHELTER AND THEN THE STRAIGHTAWAY PERIOD IS THREE DAYS.

NOW LET'S SAY THAT SOMEONE'S LOOKING FOR THAT ANIMAL.

SO I ASSUME THAT AS SOON AS IT IS INTAKING INTO THE SHELTER IS PUT UP ON THE WEBSITE.

CORRECT.

SO HOW LONG IS THE MINIMUM PERIOD OF TIME THAT, THAT ANY ANIMAL AT INTAKE IS, IS THE MINIMUM PERIOD OF TIME THREE DAYS, FOUR DAYS, FOUR DAYS.

UH, AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT FOUR DAY PERIOD? LET'S SAY, UH, UM, PROBABLY IT GETS TAKEN BY A PARTNER ORGANIZATION OR TO TRANSFER WHATEVER.

SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE, THE INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE? IF IT IS ADOPTED ANY OUTCOME TAKE REMOVES THE ANIMAL FROM THE WEBSITE.

IT'S NO LONGER AVAILABLE.

UH, SO LET'S SAY SOMEONE, UH, HYPOTHETICALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE OUT OF TOWN AND, AND THERE SOMEONE WAS TAKING CARE OF THE ANIMAL, AN ANIMAL GETS AWAY AND WHOEVER WAS TAKING CARE OF THEM, DIDN'T TELL THEM RIGHT AWAY AND THEY GET BACK IN TOWN.

AND LET'S SAY THAT FOUR DAY PERIOD IS UP.

DO THEY HAVE ANY WAY TO KNOW WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED TO THEIR ANIMAL FROM THE CITY THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE CITY, UH, INFORMATION? NO, IF THAT ANIMAL WAS OF COURSE MICROCHIP, THEN IT WOULD GO BACK TO THEM AND WE'D HAVE A WAY TO TRACE IT, BUT IF IT'S NOT MICROCHIPPED AND IT'S REMOVED AND IF THEY DESCRIBE, YOU KNOW, THIS ANIMAL TO US, WHAT THEY THINK IT IS AND WHAT IT, WHAT WE THINK IT IS, MIGHT BE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

I'VE HEARD PEOPLE CALL A POODLE AS NAILS OR, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THEY HAD IT CUT.

SO YOU JUST THERE DANCE YOUR QUESTION? THERE'S NOT UNLESS IT'S MICROCHIPPED.

OKAY.

YES.

IT'S IT'S FOR THAT IMPORTANCE TO, TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO MORE MICROCHIPS IN YOUR CITY AND YOUR COUNTY, BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY TECHNOLOGY TO ATTACH A HUMAN AND A PET ALREADY.

WE HAVE SOME CASES ABOUT PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THE SHELTER 10 DAYS LATER, AND THE ANIMAL ALREADY IS, IS TRANSFEREES ADOPTED IT'S FOR THAT IMPORTANCE.

I THINK WE, AS A TEAM AND WE AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND LET KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S ONLY FOUR DAYS AND FOUR DAYS SEATS, ANYTHING.

SOME PEOPLE WAS WORRIED BECAUSE WE WAS TRANSFERRING IN ANIMALS FOR OTHER PLACES.

WE TRANSFERRED TO A LOCAL PARTNERS IN FOUR DAYS.

THAT'S IMPORTANT.

CAN'T HAPPEN, BUT YES, LET'S GO TO MOVE WITH MICROCHIPS.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY TO MAINTAIN THE RELATION BETWEEN PETS AND OWNERS.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

YOU DECIDE WHICH ANIMALS BECOME AVAILABLE FOR THOSE, THE PARTNERS OR MOST, MOST RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS, UH, MOST FOR, I THINK SOMEONE NEEDS TO MUTE.

OKAY.

NOW LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN.

UH, AND FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME TO THE NEW COMMISSIONER.

UH, I, I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

AND I, I WANNA SAY, UM, MOST OF THE RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS, EVEN ALL OUR LOCAL RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS, THEY SELECT THE ANIMALS AND LET US KNOW WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN.

UH, WE DO HAVE A RESCUE ORGANIZATION THAT IS ALLOWING US TO SELECT THOSE ANIMALS, WHICH IS A BENEFIT BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO SELECT ANIMALS THAT HAVE HAD LONG STAYS, UH, ANIMALS THAT MIGHT HAVE A MEDICAL ISSUE, OR IT CAUSES ALONG THE SPACE.

I MIGHT BE BEHAVIOR ISSUES.

SOME ARE JUST, IT'S A DOG THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS NOT INTERESTED IN.

AND IT HAS, YOU KNOW, BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, OVER A THOUSAND DAYS.

SO, UH, BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR TRANSFER PARTNERS, THEY SELECT THE ANIMALS THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN.

THANK YOU, DON.

SO THEY USED TO, IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS WIDE OPEN FOR THEM.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S HEALTH OR, OR CORRECT.

IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

UH,

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THEY, THEY SEE ALL OUR ANIMALS, THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE AVAILABLE JUST TO THEM, JUST LIKE THEY ARE THE PUBLIC.

AND A LOT OF THE RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS OPT IN TO GET, UH, RE INVENTORY REPORTS ON WHAT CAME IN THE PREVIOUS DAY.

SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE IN REAL TIME WHAT'S COMING IN A FOLLOW-UP ON THAT.

UH, IF AN ANIMAL IS, UM, OFF THE STRAY HOLD AND TAGGED FOR A GROUP IN MICHIGAN OR MONTANA OR WHATEVER, UM, BUT STILL IN YOUR CARE, UH, CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PICK IT UP FOR A WEEK OR TWO OR WHATEVER IT IS.

IS IT STILL ON THE WEBSITE WHILE IT'S STILL IN YOUR CUSTODY? IT IS ON OUR WEBSITE UNTIL IT BECOMES OUTCOME.

IT'S AN OUTCOME, A TRANSFER ADOPTION.

UH, IF IT DIES, THOSE ARE THE OUTCOMES.

UH, UNTIL THAT OUTCOME HAPPENS, IT IS STILL IN OUR SYSTEM.

SO IF IT IS STILL IN YOUR CUSTODY, BUT THEY'VE SAID WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TAGGING IT.

LIKE WE WANT IT, WE'RE GOING TO PICK IT UP.

AND HOWEVER MANY DAYS, DOES IT STAY ON THE WEBSITE BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THEY SAID THEY WANTED IT AND THE TIME THEY PICK IT UP OR IS IT REMOVED FROM THE WEBSITE AT THE MOMENT? THEY SAY, THEY WANT IT'S REMOVED AFTER IT'S A STRAY HOLD PERIOD.

IF THEY TAGGED IT AND IT, IT, THEY SELECT THAT ANIMAL.

THEN AT THE END OF THAT STRAY HOLD PERIOD, IT CAN BECOME UNAVAILABLE.

OKAY.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IF A, IF AN OWNED ANIMAL THAT ROLLS OFF THE STRAY HOLD, IS THAT A RESCUE IN MONTANA OR WHEREVER WANTS, BUT THEY CAN'T COME GET IT FOR A WEEK OR TWO.

YOU'RE TAKING IT OFF OF THE CITY'S WEBSITE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S STILL IN EITHER AT THE SHELTER OR IN THE SHELTERS FOSTER PROGRAM.

I THINK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT STAYS ON THE LOSS SIDE.

RIGHT? I THINK I'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT, BUT I THINK IT STAYS ON THE LOSS SIDE UNDER LOST.

CAN WE FIND OUT BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE'LL FIND APPARENTLY PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT AS THE POSSIBILITY OF AGAIN, THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR TAXES, THEIR SHELTER, HAVING THE ANIMAL IN THEIR CUSTODY.

UM, AND THEY CAN'T FIND IT ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN TAGGED FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, EVEN THOUGH OUR TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, MONEY IS STILL BEING PAID FOR IT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL

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RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO, TO, UH, B COVID UPDATE.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN, BUT GOOD EVENING TO THE REST OF Y'ALL COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UM, OUR COVID UPDATE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SEES STILL IN STAGE FIVE AND, UH, WE, SINCE OUR LAST PHYSICAL MEETING, WE HAVE HAD TO ELIMINATE SUNDAYS TO BEING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WE STILL ARE MAINTAINING OUR FULL OPERATIONAL HOURS FOR THE REST OF THE SIX DAYS OF THE WEEK, BUT DUE TO OUR STAFF WITH COVID, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR FAMILY MOVERS WITH COVID, UH, THE DIFFICULTY IT IS TO FIND EMPLOYEES.

WHEN YOU HAVE POSITIONS OPEN, AS EVERYBODY'S EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW, WE JUST COULDN'T KEEP OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND MAINTAIN, UH, WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

AND SO WE, UNTIL WE CAN GET SOME STAFF HIRED AND GET SOME, UH, FOLKS BACK, UH, WE'RE EVALUATING IT, YOU KNOW, EVERY WEEK.

AND AS SOON AS WE CAN, WE'LL OPEN BACK UP ON SUNDAYS, BUT THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIES AND RESCUES HAVE DEALT WITH IN OUR OWN AREA.

UH, I JUST SAW SOMEONE SENT ME SOMETHING TODAY THAT, UH, DALLAS HAS CLOSED ONE DAY A WEEK, AND THEY'RE ONLY OPEN FROM ONE TO SIX, THE REST OF THE TIME.

SO IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE IS EXPERIENCING AND IT, WE PUT IT OFF FOR A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, ALMOST THREE YEARS DURING THIS PANDEMIC.

AND IT'S FINALLY, YOU KNOW, GOT TO THE POINT WITH THIS LAST BARRIER THAT, UH, I GUESS IT WAS MORE CONTAGIOUS AND IT CAUSED US TO HAVE A LOT MORE STAFF OUTAGES.

SO THAT'S THE BIG CHANGE ON OUR COVID AT THIS POINT.

BUT, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO FILL EVERY POSITION AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, I GUESS KIND OF DISHEARTENING WHEN YOU USED TO PUT A POSITION OUT AND YOU'D HAVE HUNDREDS OF APPLICANTS AND WE PUT A POSITION OUT AND YOU GET TO, AND REALLY NEITHER ONE HAVE ANY QUALIFICATIONS THAT YOU'RE NEEDING.

SO IT IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION.

I KNOW EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY'S EXPERIENCING.

YEAH.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT, DAWN, HOW DID YOU SELECT CLOSING ON A WEEKEND DAY AS OPPOSED TO A WEEKDAY? WHEN IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THE WEEKENDS ARE WHEN MORE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO COME TO THE SHELTER TO LOOK FOR A WELL THAT'S, WE, WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT A HISTORICAL DATA FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF INCOMES AND OUTCOMES, AND SUNDAY IS OUR LOWEST DAY OF ALL THE WEEK IN THOSE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

SO THAT'S HOW IT WAS SELECTED THAT, OKAY,

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SO THAT IS STILL FOLLOWING UP.

SO, SO YOU WENT BACK FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, SO THAT'S, THAT'S INCLUDING THE COVID YEARS, RIGHT.

WHICH IS EVERYTHING.

SO, SO THOSE WERE INCLUDED EVEN WHEN, WHEN THE SHELTER WAS CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC.

SO WOULDN'T THAT SKEW THE DATA? WELL, THE SHELTER WAS ONLY CLOSED FAR THE PUBLIC FOR WALK-INS FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

WE WERE DOING, UH, AT ONLY WHAT'S THREE WEEKS.

WE WERE ACTUALLY CLOSED BEFORE WE STARTED DOING CURBSIDE ADOPTIONS.

OKAY.

SO, SO IT WASN'T CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC THAT ENTIRE, JUST, YOU WERE JUST DOING LIKE APPOINTMENTS OR SOMETHING.

RIGHT.

BUT WE HAD THE DATA WHEN WE'VE BEEN OPENED FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH.

AND IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY NUMBERS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.

OKAY.

AND, AND YOU HAVE THAT DATA.

COULD YOU SUPPLY THAT TO US? I CAN.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION PALMER.

YEAH.

SO DAN, THANKS FOR THAT INFORMATION.

I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING, UM, IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT OUT ROOMS, ARE YOU TRACKING ANY DATA TO COME UP WITH THAT SUNDAY TO BE CLOSED BASED ON WHEN PEOPLE ARE APPLYING TO ABOUT AN ANIMAL, BECAUSE COULDN'T SUNDAY HAVE A LOWER OUTCOME RATE BECAUSE SURGERY IS NOT DONE OVER THE WEEKEND, OR, AND WE LOOKED AT HOW MANY SURGERIES WERE BEING DONE AND WHAT DAYS, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ACTUALLY, UNTIL THIS LAST GO AROUND, WE HAD A HIGH-SPEED SPAY NEUTER SURGERY, SURGERY, UH, TEAM COME IN ON SATURDAYS, EVEN.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT WAS, UH, ENOUGH TO EFFECT IT, BUT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE LOOKED AT THE DATA AND BASED ON, UH, ALL THE POINTS THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT WAS THE LOWEST DAY.

THE ONE THING THAT, UM, OUR VERSION OF CHAMELEON DOESN'T HAVE THAT A LOT OF THE NEWER VERSIONS DO, OR, OR WE DON'T HAVE THAT PART IN OUR SYSTEM.

IT WAS, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE IT.

BUT, UM, IT TRACKS HOW MANY, UH, ADOPTIONS HAPPEN AT ONE TIME OF THE DAY.

AND SO I WISHED