Feb 16, 2022 Environmental Commission

AND I COULD GET A LITTLE CHOKED UP SPEAKING, UH, ABOUT YOUR YOU STEPPING DOWN, YOU'VE BEEN A MENTOR AND A ROLE MODEL TO ME AS I WAS ON ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND MOVED INTO THIS NEW ROLE, AND I KNOW YOU'LL CONTINUE TO BE, UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT WE SAY GOODBYE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, I'LL PASS IT OFF TO DIRECTOR MIRALIS TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

THANK YOU, KATIE COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND CHAIR, GET A LITTLE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

UM, WE TRULY ARE A PUBLIC SERVANT AND I AM VERY GRATEFUL FROM THE DAY I MET YOU, YOU KNOW, FROM BEING ON A SELECTION PANEL WHEN I APPLIED FROM THE CURRENT ROLE AND JUST INTERACTING WITH YOU AND CHECKING IN WITH YOU, YOU'RE JUST A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

I GOT TO KNOW YOU, AND I HOPE YOU WILL STAY IN TOUCH BECAUSE YOU HAVE HELPED ME SO MUCH.

I LOVE THE ENERGY AND WHAT YOU BRING, UH, AS A, AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT RELATIONSHIP.

THANK YOU, JORGE.

I CERTAINLY WILL BE IN TOUCH.

UH, I'M I'M YOUR LAST PERSON HERE? UH, I MEAN, UNLESS OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO SPEAK

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AND, UH, I JUST CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR YOUR FRIENDSHIP WITH ME.

THANKS KATIE.

CAN YOU COME DOWN? OH, AND WHILE YOU COME DOWN, I ALSO WANT IT TO SAY IT IS TRADITIONAL FOR WATERSHED EMPLOYEES WHO RETIRE AND COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE, UM, WHO HAVE DEDICATED SO MUCH TIME, SUCH AS YOU TO, UH, HAVE A WALKING STICK.

IT IS, UH, IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR SERVICE PROTECTING AUSTIN'S ENVIRONMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH WORKING AT MITSUI.

THANKS.

THANKS FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

KEEP WRITING THE WRONG, KEEP FIGHTING THE FIGHT YOU DO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT? YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY REAL TEARS, YOU KNOW, ALSO THANK YOU.

UH, YOU KNOW, MADAM CHAIR, GUERRERO FOR, YOU KNOW, GRACIOUSLY ACCEPTING US AND TRYING TO TEACH US ABOUT ALL THE STUFF THAT, UH, YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT WE DON'T.

SO, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

I, UH, UH, THE SAME, I DIDN'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE STEPPING DOWN, UH, LINDA SAYS TAKE A, I'M SURPRISED AND SHOCKED AND, UH, GONNA MISS YOU.

AND THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME AND TEACHING ME, UH, KINDA HOW TO, HOW TO GET GOING NOW, LIKE ON THE COMMISSION.

THAT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH JOB, UM, FOR ALL OF US IN, UM, IN HAVING SOMEBODY LIKE YOU THAT IS SO EXPERIENCED.

UH, I MEAN, AND I LOVE THE WAY YOU KEEP HAVE KEPT THE MEETINGS GOING.

UH, I MEAN, THINGS THAT COULD HAVE TAKEN HOURS, THANKS TO YOU, UH, WERE MUCH SHORTER.

AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK WE ALL DO, AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AND, UH, AND WHATEVER ELSE IS COMING UP FOR YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER GROSS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, YOU APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, UH, IN SERVICE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TEACHING ME WHAT, UH, WHAT, UH, YOU WERE ABLE TO PASS ON AND, UH, WISH YOU BEST OF LUCK GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU, THOMPSON.

HEY LINDA, THANKS A LOT FOR EVERYTHING.

AND I MEAN, WHAT CAN I SAY? WE ELECTED YOUR CHAIR, SO YOU'D HAVE TO STAY A LITTLE MORE THAN A MINUTE, BUT ANYWAY, STRATEGY WORK FOR AWHILE.

THANKS SO MUCH, MISS YOU.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO POSTPONE FOR B W, WHICH IS AT 77, 15 AND A HALF WEST STATE HIGHWAY 71, C 14 DASH 85 DASH 8, 2 8 8 DASH 23 R C A A LOCATION AT 77, 12 0 4, SLAIN AUSTIN, TEXAS 7 8 7 3 6, DISTRICT EIGHT.

UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND BEING WELCOMING AND JUST, UM, BEING, UH, OPEN-MINDED AND THOUGHTFUL AND, UH, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

AND THANKS FOR WELCOMING EVERYONE.

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS.

UM, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION IS GOING TO BE POSTPONED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST ON FOUR

[4.b. Name: 7715 1/2 West State Highway 71, C14-85-288.23(RCA) Applicant: Amanda Swor, Drenner Group Location: 7712 Oak Forest Lane, Austin TX 78736 Council District: District 8 Staff: Liz Johnston, Deputy Environmental Officer, Watershed Protection Department and Leslie Lilly, Environmental Program Coordinator Watershed: Williamson Creek, Barton Springs Zone (Contributing Zone), Drinking Water Protection Zone Request: Conduct a public hearing and approve a restrictive covenant amendment Staff Recommendation: To grant an amendment to the restrictive covenant (30 minutes)]

I MOVED TO POSTPONE TO A FURTHER MEETING.

I HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND FROM SPOT EVAN.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THE MINUTES OF WE'RE MOVING THE AGENDA AROUND TODAY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS POSTPONEMENT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE AGENDA AROUND.

SO WHEN DID YOU MAKE YOUR SECOND? OUR SECOND I'LL SECOND.

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BY RAISING YOUR HAND, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNANIMOUS CARRIES A NINE.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, UM, THE 87TH LEGISLATIVE UPDATE CANCELED FOR THIS EVENING, AND IT WILL BE RESCHEDULED AT ANOTHER TIME.

SO THOUGH THOSE WERE TWO THINGS WE NEEDED TO GET OUT OF THE WAY NEXT.

WE HAVE GENERAL COMMUNICATION, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYONE, EVERYONE SIGNED UP FOR SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC.

CORRECT.

[1.a. Approval of the February 2, 2022 Environmental Commission Regular Meeting Minutes (5 minutes)]

NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR MINUTES.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY 2ND, 2022 GENERAL MEETING WITH, FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMISSION.

UM, MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

AMBER MAKES THE MOTION.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THOMPSON DID THAT ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

ANY, ANY ADDITIONS, ANYTHING CHANGED EDITS.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT, WHERE ARE YOU VOTING FOR OR ABSTAINING? I'M NOT.

I, I SPENT TWO HOURS TRYING TO GET ONLINE AND WAS UNABLE TO, AND I, UH, I APOLOGIZE.

MY, UH, MY, UH, UM, MY WEB WENT DOWN, MY WEBSITE WENT DOWN, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING WAS A PROBLEM.

SO, UH, UH, I'M AT MY SISTER'S HOUSE TONIGHT, CAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW SHE HAS RELIABLE, UH, WEB SERVICE.

UH, SO, UH, I HOPE THAT I'LL BE POPPING UP IN THE FUTURE.

TO GO TO FOUR C IGLESIA PENTECOSTAL EMMANUELLE, INC.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN STILL VOTE FOR IT, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAD TROUBLE GETTING ONLINE.

IT'S UP TO YOU.

I HAD A CAUSE I, I DIDN'T NOTICE, UH, IN THE LAST TWO MEETINGS, IT SEEMS TO BE THAT, UM, IT SHOWS IN THE MINUTES THAT THERE WERE UPDATES ON, UH, FROM, UM, COMMISSIONS AND I DON'T ACTUALLY RECALL THERE BEING UPDATES.

UM, AND WAS I JUST ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL? UH, OR, UH, IS THAT CORRECT THAT THERE WERE UPDATES OR DID, OR DID SOMEBODY JUST FILL IT OUT WHO WAS DOING THE MINUTES THESE DAYS? UM, AS COMMISSIONER RAMBERT, ROMBERG.

I REMEMBER BRIEF UPDATES ON A COUPLE OF THE, THE, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEES.

THIS IS DOUBLE CHECKING TAKES.

I GO, I OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES NINE.

OH, OKAY.

SO THEN NEXT WE'RE STILL MOVING THE, UM, UH, DIFFERENT AGENDA IDEAS AROUND.

SO WE'RE NEXT GOING

[4.c. Name: Iglesia Pentecostal Emanuel, Inc., SP-2020-0324C Applicant: Bill Graham, IT Gonzalez Engineers Location: 6300 Moonglow Dr., Austin, TX 78724 Council District: District 1 Staff: Pamela Abee-Taulli, Environmental Program Coordinator, Development Services Department Watershed: Walnut Creek Watershed, Suburban Classification, Desired Development Zone Request: Request to vary from LDC 25-8-261 to allow development of a portion of a driveway in the Critical Water Quality Zone. Staff Recommendation: Recommended with conditions (30 minutes)]

APPLICANT IS BILL GRAHAM.

UH, THIS IS A 30 6300 MOONGLOW DRIVE, AUSTIN, TEXAS 7 8 7 2 4 DISTRICT ONE.

WE HAVE STAFF HERE TO PRESENT MS. AB TALI.

IS SHE ONLINE FROM ONLINE AND I HAVE A PRESENTATION HARRY.

SO, UH, AGAIN, PAMELA AB TALI ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM COORDINATOR AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND, UH, AS SAID, THIS IS A GLASSY OF PENTECOSTAL AND INC 5,300 MOONGLOW DRIVE.

IT'S LIKE PLAN NUMBER 20 20 0 3 2 4 C.

SO THIS IS LOCATED OUT ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.

IT'S AT THE VERY EDGE OF THE AUSTIN FULL PURPOSE CITY LIMITS RIGHT THERE, WHERE IT RUNS INTO THE ETJ.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, JUST FOR ORIENTATION.

THE BLUE STAR THERE SHOWS LIKE WHERE THE CAPITOL IS AND THEN THE FREEWAY IS GOING FROM LEFT.

WE HAVE NO PACK AND THEN 35 AND THEN, UH, 180 3.

AND, UH, OUR SITE IS THERE TO THE EAST OF 180 3 WEST OF DECKER LAKE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE ZOOMING IN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.

WE CAN SEE THERE'S 180 3 ON THE LEFT.

WE'RE KIND OF OFF FROM THE CORNER OF JOHNNY MORRIS AND DECKER LAKE ROAD.

DOES HAVE A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE BUFFER ON IT, AS WELL AS A CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE, WHICH IS A WETLAND.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE WALNUT CREEK WATERSHED, WHICH IS CLASSIFIED AS A SUBURBAN WATERSHED IT'S IN THE FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION.

IT IS NOT LOCATED OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE IT'S IN COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE

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SO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY WITH ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS.

THE BARRIER TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS THAT THE ONLY POSSIBLE ACCESS TO THE SITE IS THROUGH A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE BUFFER.

SO THE VARIOUS REQUEST IS TO VARY FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25, 8 TO 61 TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A DRIVE IN A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE TO PROVIDE SITE ACCESS.

NEXT SLIDE ON THIS SLIDE, THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE EAST BORDER OF THE PROPERTY THAT BLUE PALE BLUE DOTTED LINE SHOWS THE CREEKS, THAT CENTER LINE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE NORMALLY, ON A PROPERTY LIKE THIS, YOU WOULD TAKE ACCESS OFF OF SAND SOFT DRIVE.

HOWEVER THAT LITTLE PINK SLIVER THERE IS, UH, A SEPARATE LOT SO THAT THIS LAW DOESN'T ACTUALLY REACH SENDOFF DRIVE.

AND THAT LOT IS, UH, UH, OPEN SPACE EASEMENT PARCEL ACROSS WHICH ACCESS IS PROHIBITED.

THEREFORE, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE ONLY PLACE THAT THEY CAN GET TO THE SITE IS FROM MOONGLOW DRIVE WHERE THE, WHERE THE START IS NEXT SLIDE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, MOONGLOW DRIVE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A LARGE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE BUFFER.

YOU MIGHT WONDER WHAT ALL THOSE HOUSES ARE DOING IN THAT CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE BUFFER.

AND THE CHASE IS THAT THOSE WERE, WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT.

THAT SUBDIVISION WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT BEFORE, UH, THE REGULATIONS THAT MADE THIS A BUFFER.

SO, HOWEVER, UNDER CURRENT REGULATIONS, THIS IS A BUFFER AND THEREFORE WE CAN'T JUST, UH, PUT DRAGWAYS IN IT.

AS I SAID, THE SITE ALSO HAS A CF IN THERE.

IT'S WHERE IT'S LOCATED OVER THERE ON THE LEFT.

THAT'S A LITTLE WETLAND.

THE CODE PROVIDES SOMETHING CALLED BUFFER AVERAGING, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO BUILD THE GOAL OF IT AS IS WRITTEN DOWN THERE IS TO RESHAPE THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE SO THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO PAUSE A MOMENT FOR YOU GUYS TOO.

SO YOU CAN READ THAT TOP PARAGRAPH, WHICH IS THE CODE ABOUT BUFFER AVERAGING SO THE CONSTRAINT FOR THIS SITE IS THAT THE THERE'S, THIS IS A, THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY IS ON THE QUESTION IS A MAJOR CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, AND YOU CAN'T REDUCE YOUR BUFFER AVERAGING.

YOU CAN'T REDUCE THE CRITICAL BUFFER TO ANY LESS THAN 150 FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BLACK DOTTED LINE ON THERE NOW, WHICH SHOWS YOU THE MINIMUM CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE BUFFER, WHICH IS AT 150 FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE.

THIS SHOWS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S FAIRLY CONSTRAINED ON THE SITE HERE.

UH, UH, THERE'S PARKING, THERE'S A BUILDING, THERE'S A POND, UH, THREE DIVISION WATER QUALITY POND.

AND YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE DRIVEWAY CONNECTING TO MOONGLOW DRIVE.

SO THIS KIND OF BUFF COLOR SHOWS WHERE THE BUFFER AVERAGING IS I'M SHOWING YOU HERE KIND OF THE COMBINATION OF THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE BUFFER, AVERAGING WITH THE EXPANDED CDF SETBACK.

SO ALL OF THAT THEN IS NOT DEVELOPABLE.

UH, SO YOU HAVE THIS LITTLE, UH, MINIMUM CRITICAL WATER QUALITIES ON BUFFER AND THE BLACK DOTTED LINE.

UM, THIS DRIVEWAY, UH, OVERLAPS WITH THAT WHERE THAT LITTLE BLUE SHARD IS THAT'S 478 FEET.

UH, I'M SORRY, SQUARE FEET.

I SHOULDN'T, I HAVE DONE THAT ONE 470 SQUARE FEET OF DRIVEWAY THAT IS INSIDE THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE BUFFER THE MINIMUM BUFFER.

THE VARIANCE, AGAIN, AS STATED IS TO VARY FROM 25, 8 TO 61 TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A DRIVE AND A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE TO PROVIDE SITE ACCESS.

THEREFORE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THAT BIT OF DRIVEWAY IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE BUFFER.

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STAFF FINDS THAT THE FINDINGS HAVE BEEN MET AND THEREFORE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

UH, THE CONDITION IS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE BOLLARDS AT THE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS, ADJACENT TO THE DRIVEWAY AND PARKING AREA TO PREVENT VEHICLE PARKING OFF OF THE PAVEMENT IN THE PRESERVED AREA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN AND SEE WHO HAS A QUESTION? UH, WE HAVE MR. BRISTOL.

I SAW YOURS UP FIRST.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, I DIDN'T SEE THE PRESENTATION AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT IN THE BACK.

I'VE GOT MATERIAL.

HOW MANY WHAT'S THE ANCHORAGE OF THIS SITE? AND THEN ALSO, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF LAND THAT WILL BE USED IN, IN PREVIOUS COVER, UH, VERSUS NOT.

I'M GOING TO DEFER TO BILL GRAHAM.

WHO'S THE APPLICANT WHO IS ON THE LINE FOR THOSE NUMBERS.

BILL, DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? UH, YES.

UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS BILL GRAHAM, WOULD IT, GONZALEZ ENGINEERS DECIDE IS 4.51 ACRES AND WE'RE WE HAVE 16% IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE SIDE.

UH THAT'S THAT'S TOTAL STOOP 0.7, TWO ACRES OF IMPERVIOUS COVER.

AND, UH, THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF, OF, UH, PEAK FLOWS WITH THE RSM P AND WE HAVE A BIOFILTRATION POND.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

I SAW YOUR HAND UP.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S A LOT AND THE BEGINNING OF, UM, THIS PROPERTY ON THE STREET THAT GENERALLY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS? I BELIEVE IT'S SAYING SHOT SHAW DRIVE PHIL.

I'LL LET YOU TAKE THAT.

DO YOU? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY WE, WE, WE NEVER FIGURED OUT WHY, WHY IT HAS A LITTLE OPENING EASEMENT LOT.

THERE THERE'S AN OPEN EASEMENT LOUD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SHANNON SHAW ALSO IT'S BIGGER.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT SENSE IT MAKES TO HAVE THEM.

THERE IT'S CONTROLS THE WHOLE LOT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, WHY THE, UH, OWNER OF THAT LOT WOULD BE GIVEN THE PRIVILEGE OF CONTROLLING ACCESS TO THIS LOT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

AND YOU TELL ME WHEN IT WAS FORMED THIS SLOT.

I WAS, UH, UH, RECENTLY I THINK IT WAS 2007.

IT WAS 2007.

UH, AND IT'S THAT IT'S LOW INCOME HOUSING HABITAT FOR HUMANITY IS A ACTUALLY WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY, AUSTIN HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

UM, LET'S SEE.

CAN YOU TELL ME THE NUMBER OF PARKING PLACES THAT YOU PROPOSE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? UH, NOT ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ONE OVER THE MINIMUM, I THINK, OR ONE OR TWO OVER THE MINIMUM, SO, OKAY.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING TO BE GOING DOWN A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, SO THAT WILL BUFFER THE CREEK A LITTLE BIT.

UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT? I DO NOT.

I'M SORRY, MR. THOMPSON.

NOT, WE'RE NOT MAKING THE SITUATION WORSE THOUGH.

SO CAN YOU TELL ME IF THERE'S EVER BEEN FLOODING IN THIS AREA BECAUSE WALNUT CREEK HAS FLOODED MANY TIMES.

UH, WE, WE HAVE, UH, BEEN APPROVED FOR OUR SMP.

SO TO BE APPROVED YOU ACTUALLY, UH, WITH THE, UH, UH, THIRD FILTRATION POND AND WHATNOT, THAT ACTUALLY DECREASING THE FLOODING CHANCES.

SO, NO, I'M, I'M ASKING ABOUT THE CREEK, UH, COMING UP AS OPPOSED TO YOUR AAND.

SO THE WATERS OF THAT TRIBUTARY HAVE NEVER FLOODED THE HOMES THEY'RE BEHIND THE HOUSE THAT WE KNOW OF.

UH, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE

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WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY HELPING THE SITUATION.

UM, LET'S SEE.

4.5, ONE ACRES IT'S 16% IMPERVIOUS COVER.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

THANKS.

UM, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY IMPROVING THAT SITUATION? I DON'T, I I'M, I DON'T FOLLOW YOU.

WHAT IS THAT AS TO HOW THIS IMPROVES THE SITUATION? OKAY.

IT IMPROVES THE SITUATION BY DECREASING THE PEAK FLOW DOWNSTREAM.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BASIC REQUIREMENTS ARE AS IN T BECAUSE OF THE BIO FILTRATION UPON.

YES, BUT DOESN'T THAT POND ALSO, UH, UH, CRITICAL HABITAT, UH, BY THAT AMOUNT AS WELL? UH, I MEAN, I'M, I'M, I'M, THIS IS FRANKLY NEW TO ME AND I, UM, SOMEHOW I, I, I JUST CONCEPTUALLY HAVE TROUBLE SEEING HOW ANY DEVELOPMENT IN A CRITICAL HABITAT AREA CAN BE IMPROVED BY DEVELOP.

UM, AND IF YOU CAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME, SO IT MAKES SENSE I WOULD, UH, BE FULL BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE STAFF HAS THIS, UM, HI COMMISSIONER.

THIS IS LIZ JOHNSTON, DEPUTY ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, UM, ALL SITE PLANS THAT, UM, PRIOR TO APPROVAL MUST BE REVIEWED BY ENGINEERING STAFF FOR WATER QUALITY AND DETENTION REQUIREMENTS.

UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY WERE, UM, APPROVED TO, UM, UH, UM, JOIN THE RSM PIECE OF REGIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WITHIN, UM, WATERSHED.

SO THERE THEY, THEIR ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS ENSURE THAT THEY WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY ADVERSE IMPACT TO DOWNSTREAM OR UPSTREAM NEIGHBORS BY THE PROPERTY THAT IS IT'S CODE COMPLIANT FOR THAT, OR IT WILL BE BEFORE IT'S, UH, UH, APPROVED, SORRY, JOEL, THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THE MUTE CONTROL LIGHT, UM, BUT DON'T AND LOSE FIVE ACRES OF, UH, UH, NEARLY FIVE ACRES OF, UH, UH, CRITICAL, UH, HABITAT IN THE PROCESS OR, OR, OR IN MY MISSION, OR IS THAT, IS THAT PART ALREADY PUT, UNDERSTAND, PAMELA? DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THE BUFFER AVERAGING PLEASE? YEAH, THANK YOU.

THAT YOU WILL HAVE RECHARGED, UH, OF THE CREEK, UM, COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD IF THEY HAD MAINTAINED THE, THE, UH, SORT OF, UH, WATER QUALITIES OF WHERE IT WAS.

UM, SO THE WAY THAT BUFFER AVERAGING WORKS IS YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPACE AS WHAT YOU'VE REMOVED.

SO, SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ENCROACHING INTO THE, TO THE BUFFER, BUT THEY'VE SMUSHED THE BUFFER OVER TO WHERE THAT'S A CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE.

IT IS SO THAT YOU HAVE ALL OF THE HYDROLOGIC CONNECTION THERE.

AND, UM, SO, SO THEY BASICALLY MOVED IT FROM ONE PLACE, BUT REPLACED IT IN ANOTHER.

AND JUST ALSO TO DIFFERENTIATE, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE BUFFER, AND, UM, WHICH IS NOT QUITE THE SAME AS CRITICAL HABITAT.

THIS ISN'T LIKE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE CAP VERIO HABITAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S JUST, IT'S THE, IT'S THE SPACE THAT WE TRY TO ALLOW, UH, ON BOTH SIDES OF A CREEK IN ORDER TO ALLOW, UH, INFILTRATION OF STORM WATER INTO THE CREEK TO MAINTAIN THE HYDROLOGIC LOW AND, AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF THING.

SO WE FEEL THAT, THAT, UH, THE AREA THAT WE'VE MOVED THIS, UH, BUFFER TO WILL ALL IS ALSO HYDROLOGICALLY CONNECTED TO THE UNDERGROUND WATER RECHARGE.

AND, UM, I DON'T THINK I SAID THAT EXACTLY RIGHT.

BUT ANYWAY, TO THE UNDERGROUND WATER FLOW AND

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DOES THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, IT DOES.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT THAT THERE ARE, ARE, UM, ANIMALS, AMPHIBIANS, AND ET CETERA THAT ARE LIVING THERE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST TRYING TO, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY TRYING TO KEEP THE, THE, THE, UH, WALNUT CREEK FROM FLOODING THAT YOU HA IT'S A SPACE THERE, UH, IT THEN, AND TO DO THAT, TO DEVELOP, UH, SO THE, THE POINT OF THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITIES ON BUMPERS IS TO, UM, PRESERVE AREA AND AREA THAT ALLOWS, UH, VEGETATION TO GROW UP.

AND SO THAT YOU HAVE A HEALTHY RIPARIAN AREA.

SO THAT AREA THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE NOW AS THE AVERAGE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL HAVE THE HEALTHY RIPARIAN AREA.

AND SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MOVED OVER, BUT, UH, AGAIN, THERE ARE NOT ANY SPECIFIC ANIMALS OR, UH, CREATURES THAT WERE, THAT WERE DISPLACING.

UM, IN FACT, AS, AS THAT AREA IS NOW BECOMES PRESERVED, WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE CRITTERS, WE HOPE, BUT IN A LOT MORE VEGETATION, IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE REASONS.

ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, WHICH IS THAT, UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH, UM, UH, REMOVING, UH, UH, UH, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, UH, UH, GARBAGE, TRASH, UH, DEBRIS.

WHAT HAVE YOU FROM, UH, FROM OUR WATERWAYS, UH, AND, AND IT'S, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S REACHED A CRITICAL POINT, BUT I, I JUST, I WANT TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE I, I JUST RAISED THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE SHOULD ALLOW ANYTHING THAT IN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY PEED, UH, THE, UH, WATERWAYS UNTIL WE CAN CLEAN UP THE CREEKS, UM, AND ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

AND, AND, UH, I'VE BEEN WANTING TO MENTION THAT SINCE I CAME ON THE BOARD AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO, SO, UM, BUT IT COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, SCOTT, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, THANK YOU.

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BRING THAT UP RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AGENDA, AND WE NEED TO STICK TO THIS AGENDA.

SO I GUESS I AM ON THE AGENDA, BUT I THINK I AM ON POINT, WHICH IS THAT I IS THAT IS THAT I THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT WE DO, UM, BEFORE WE CLEAN UP OUR WATERWAYS, UH, FURTHER AND DANGERS ARE, ARE, UH, IT PUTS US AT RISK FOR FLOODING.

SO IN THAT SENSE, I THINK IT IS, BUT, UH, BUT I'M GOING TO STOP BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO ON AND WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT AND IT'S NOTED.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AGENDA ITEM FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS, UH, ITEM INDEED, WE DO.

LET ME GET OVER HERE TO IT.

THIS IS, UM, FEBRUARY 16TH, 2022, THE INGLESIAS PENTECOSTAL EMMANUEL, UM, INC, UH, SP 20 20 0 3 2 4 C.

UH, WHEREAS ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZED THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND AN EXECUTIVE EXISTING PUD.

UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE AMENDMENT INCLUDES VARIANTS.

A REQUEST IS AS FOLLOWS REQUEST TO VARY FROM LDC TWO, FIVE DASH EIGHT DASH 2 6 1 TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF A PORTION OF A DRIVEWAY IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE TO PROVIDE SITE ACCESS.

UH, WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS VARIANCE, HAVING DETERMINED THAT THE FINDING FINDINGS OF FACTS TO HAVE BEEN MET, THEREFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING STAFF CONDITIONS.

THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE BOLLARDS AT APPROPRIATE LOCATION, ADJACENT TO THE DRIVE AND PARKING AREA TO PREVENT VEHICLE PARKING OFF THE PAVEMENT.

AND THAT'S IT.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT'S NOT TOO, UH, UH, THE ITEM IS OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCE TO A SITE PLAN.

IT IS NOT TO AMEND

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A PUTT.

I JUST WANT TO READ THAT INTO THE ROOM.

OH, THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO CHANGE THAT.

IS THERE A SECOND ON THIS MOTION? SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE A CALL? YES.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

YOUR MIC.

YOUR MIC IS OFF COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

SORRY.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER REMMEBER.

I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE MY QUESTIONS COULD NOT BE ANSWERED.

AND SO IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PEZ FOUND THIS UNTIL THEY CAN COME BACK WITH THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY AMENDMENT.

OTHERWISE I DON'T HAVE ONE.

I WOULD SAY I WOULD SECOND THAT AMENDMENT.

I, I, I WOULD, WOULD TEXT AMENDMENT FOR, UH, UH, UH, UH, TO THE, UH, MOTION FOR A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL LIKE THE, UH, UH, ANSWERED.

I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, THAT IS ON THE TABLE IS THAT I GUESS THE COMMISSIONS, UM, AND, UH, WALK ME THROUGH THIS.

IF YOU DON'T MIND ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, UM, THERE'S A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE, UH, MOTION THAT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON PRIOR TO THAT AMENDMENT BEING ADDED, KATIE COYNE, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, UH, I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO VOTE ON THE, UH, ON WHAT YOU, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND, NONE, UH, AND PENDING THE RESULTS OF THAT, THEN YOU, YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A POST.

SO, SO, SO BASED ON THAT, UM, YOU CAN HAVE A VOTE ON THE, ON THE MOTION AND THE SECOND, AND THEN IF IT DOES NOT PASS, UH, POINT OF ORDER.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

UH, NO, UH, THE, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF, UH, ROBERT'S RULES IS THAT THE, UH, IS THAT WE VOTE, VOTE FIRST ON THE, UH, AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BECAUSE, UM, UH, OTHERWISE IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO AMANDA MOTION.

UM, THIS ISN'T AN AMENDMENT TO AN EMOTION.

IT WOULD BE A POSTPONEMENT.

AND SO IF, UH, YOU CANNOT COME TO CONSENSUS, UH, ON, ON MOVING THIS FORWARD AND SOME FORM OF A RECOMMENDATION, AND YOU DECIDE TO POSTPONE THAT, THAT, THAT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE, BUT, UH, W W WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO IS AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING, UH, RECOMMENDATION.

WE READY TO VOTE? YES.

OR READY TO VOTE.

UH, COMMISSIONER BEDFORD.

COMMISSIONER GUERRERO.

YAY.

COMMISSIONER.

LAMBERG YES.

COMMISSIONER BRISTOL.

NOW COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

COMMISSIONER BARRETT.

BIXLER.

NO COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

NO COMMISSIONER.

SO THAT'S 6 66 BOATS.

MOTION CARRIES 6, 4, 3 AGAINST.

[4.a. Name: Violet Crown Water and Wastewater Service Extension Requests #5111 & #5112 Applicant: Jim Wittliff, Land Answers, Inc. Location: 10649 SH 71 Austin, Texas 78736 Council District: Austin 2-Mile Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Staff: Kaela Champlin, Environmental Program Coordinator, Watershed Protection Department Watershed: Barton Creek Watershed, Barton Springs Zone, Edwards Aquifer Contributing Zone, Drinking Water Protection Zone Request: Water and Wastewater Service Extension Staff Recommendation: Staff does not recommend approval of the water and wastewater service extension requests (30 minutes)]

WE ARE NOW READY TO TAKE ON I'D.

UM, FOR A, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, VIOLET CROWN WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST NUMBER 5, 1 1, 1, AND FIVE.

1 1 2 APPLICANT IS JIM WITLESS IS LOCATED AT 1 0 6, 4, NOW NINE, EXCUSE ME.

S S H 71, AUSTIN, TEXAS 7 8, 7 3 6, AUSTIN TO MALL EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

OR WE HAVE STAFF HERE TO PRESENT BEFORE WE PRESENT STUFF.

I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SPEAKING THIS EVENING ON THIS, AND

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WE'VE DIVIDED UP THE TIME.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO CALL OUT THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE STILL HERE BEFORE YOU PRESENT SO THAT I CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT BUSINESS.

I ALSO WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO LIMIT YOUR QUESTIONS TO TWO.

AFTER WE'VE HAD A ROUND, THEN YOU CAN COME BACK IF SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT FURTHER HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.

AND SO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU HAVE TWO, UH, QUESTIONS PREPARED AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS.

AND THEN, UH, DO YOU MIND CALLING THESE PEOPLE OUT? JUST RAISE YOUR HAND, WE CALL OUT YOUR NAMES SO I CAN ENSURE YOU'RE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, JOE CELLO.

THANK YOU, JOE.

CHRISTIE MUSE.

THANK YOU, PAULA JONES.

AND BRIAN, ZUBIK SUBJECT, SUBJECT.

I APOLOGIZE, BRIAN.

AND SO, UM, IT FEEL, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONERS.

I'M KAYLA CHAMPLIN ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM COORDINATOR WITH THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.

TONIGHT'S STAFF ARE REQUESTING THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON VIOLET, CROWN WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE, EXTENSION REQUESTS.

NUMBER 5, 1 1, 1 AND 5 1 1 2.

BEFORE I START THE PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO GO DO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT A SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST IS.

SO A SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST, OR AN S E R IS AN APPLICATION FOR CITY WATER OR WASTEWATER SERVICE FROM A PROPERTY OWNER OR DEVELOPER, SCRS ARE REQUIRED WHEN A PROPERTY IS LOCATED MORE THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM AN ACCESSIBLE WATER OR WASTEWATER SYSTEM, OR ONE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IS AN ADEQUATE FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

DEMANDS SERVICE MAY INVOLVE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW LINE OR AN ASSOCIATE FACILITY OR UPGRADES TO AN EXISTING LINE OR FACILITIES.

THE APPLICANT PAYS FOR THE ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE AS OUTLINED IN THE SCR.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SCRS REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL.

IF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION REVIEWS AND MAKES A RECOMMENDATION ON THE SCRS THAT REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SO FIRST IT'LL GO TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION FOR HER RECOMMENDATION.

THEN IT WILL GO TO WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION FOR A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN IT WILL GO TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL OR DENIAL AS HE IS, AS HE, OURS ARE ALSO NOT CONDITIONAL.

SO YOU MUST EITHER VOTE TO RECOMMEND OR DENY, BUT YOU CANNOT PUT ANY CONDITIONS ON THAT RECOMMENDATION.

SO FOR THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS TO FOR ATTRAC OF APPROXIMATELY 70.95 ACRES LOCATED AT 1 0 6 4 9 SH 71 WEST.

THE SITE IS IN THE BARTON CREEK WATERSHED, THE BARTON SPRINGS ZONE, THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE, THE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONTRIBUTING ZONE, AND IS ALSO SUBJECT TO THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS ORDINANCE.

SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS WHAT THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING.

THE PROJECT PROPOSES A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND AMPHITHEATER, AND OTHER USES THIS CHART SUMMARIZES THE PROPOSED USES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ASSOCIATED LAND USE EQUIVALENTS OR LUVS.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS REQUESTING A TOTAL OF 766.

THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS ARE A SEPARATE APPLICATION FROM THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION, WHICH IS ALSO CURRENTLY IN REVIEW AT THIS TIME.

IT IS THE SAME OWNER MAKING SCR REQUESTS TO SERVE THE PROPOSED PROJECT UNDER THE SITE PLAN REVIEW, BUT THE APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE SAR IS NOT CONTINGENT UPON THE SITE PLAN BEING SUBSTANTIALLY REVIEW COMPLETE WITH ITS REVIEW.

SO THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS JUST TO DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.

SO THIS IS THE SITE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CITY'S FULL PURPOSE, YOUR SPOOL JURISDICTION, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S SHOWING HERE WHERE THE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONTRIBUTING ZONE IS, AND ALSO WHERE THE RECHARGE ZONE IS.

AND THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION.

THE CONTEXT OF IMAGINE AUSTIN'S GROWTH CONCEPT MAP.

IT IS NOT LOCATED IN ONE OF THE CENTERS OR CORRIDORS WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS TO, UM, DIRECT NEW DEVELOPMENT.

UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE TWO MILE, EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OR ETJ AND JASON TO THE LIMITED PURPOSE JURISDICTION.

UH, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY KNOWN CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE OR WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONE.

UM, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

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THE SITE ALSO DOES NOT DRAIN TO KNOWN, UM, OCCUPIED SALAMANDER HABITAT.

THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT SLOPES ON THE SITE THAT ARE GREATER THAN 15%, UM, AND DUE TO THE SLOPES LAND USE COMMISSION VARIANCES ARE ANTICIPATED FOR CUT AND FILL.

UM, I'M SORRY.

THEY, UM, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED.

SO WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH REVIEWER AND THEY WILL BE REQUIRED WITH THE ASSOCIATE, HIS SITE PLAN THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT IS CURRENTLY IN REVIEWED.

UM, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE NO SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ON SITE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE BARTON SPRINGS ZONE, WHICH IS AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA.

AND THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE BARTON CREEK HABITAT PRESERVE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE HIGHWAY ON THIS MAP.

AND THIS PROVIDES HABITAT FOR MIGRATORY SONGBIRDS, INCLUDING THE ENDANGERED GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER AND PROTECTS WATER QUALITY IN BARTON CREEK WATERSHED.

THE CITY OF AUSTIN ALSO RECENTLY PURCHASED A CONSERVATION EASTMAN FOR WATER QUALITY PROTECTION.

THE ADJACENT TO THIS SITE CONCERNS REGARDING IMPACTS ON WATER QUALITY BUILDING SIZE LIGHTING, OR NIGHT SKY ISSUES AND TRAFFIC ISSUES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED TO WATERSHED STAFF FROM VESTED STAKEHOLDERS.

SO THIS IS A MAP SHOWING THE PROPOSED WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SCR 5 1 1 1.

IT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 16,495 FEET OF 16 INCH WATER MAIN FROM THE EXISTING 12 INCH WATER MAIN LOCATED AT THE TRACT ON ACID ON SH 71 WEST.

AND THEN IT CONTINUES SOUTH ALONG 71 TO THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD.

AND HERE'S A MAP CONTINUING THAT WEST SOUTHWEST ALONG THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD TO CIRCLE DRIVE.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER MAP SHOWING THE FIRST SEGMENT OF THE WATER MAIN PROPOSED WATER MAIN AND WHERE IT CROSSES CRITICAL WATER QUALITY AND WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONES.

UM, THE PROPOSED WATER INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO BRING SERVICE TO THE SITE HAS SIGNIFICANT AND I, AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE, UH, BARTON CREEK.

UH, THIS IS JUST THE LINE CONTINUING DOWN, SO IT DOESN'T CROSS ANY CRITICAL OR WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONES ALONG THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD.

UM, AT THIS TIME, THE PLAN FOR WHICH SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, THE WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE LOCATED, ARE NOT KNOWN.

SO THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPOSED WATER MAIN WOULD CROSS AT LEAST ONE OR POSSIBLY TWO CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES AND WATER QUALITY TRANSITIONS, EXCUSE ME, TRANSITION ZONES FOR BARTON CREEK WHILE UNNECESSARY UTILITIES ARE ALLOWED TO CROSS CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES.

IF CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET AS AND CODE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY CROSSINGS OF UTILITY LINES WITHIN THE BARTON SPRINGS ZONE MUST ALSO BE APPROVED BY THE DIRECTOR OF THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.

AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A NECESSARY UTILITY CROSSING FOR THE WATER MAIN WOULD BE SUPPORTABLE BY OUR DEPARTMENT WHILE DRINKING WATER BREAKS.

DON'T TYPICALLY CAUSE THE SAME LEVEL OF ENVIRONMENTAL HARM AS WE SUPPORT OUR BREAKS.

DO CHLORINATED WATER DOES HAVE NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON AQUATIC.

LIFE IMPACTS TWO POTENTIAL CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES THAT MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE CREEKS ARE ALSO NOT KNOWN AT THIS TIME.

SO THIS IS, UH, A MAP OF JUST SHOWING THE WASTEWATER EXTENSION, WHICH IS NUMBER 5 1 1 2.

UM, SO THE PROPOSED WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION OF A LIFT STATION AND 15,150 FEET OF FORCE MEME FROM THE PROPOSAL OF STATION EAST THROUGH THE SUBJECT TRACT TO WEST SH 71, AND THEN SOUTH SOUTHEAST ALONG 71 TO THE EXISTING WATER MAIN NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT 1,950 FEET OF 12 INCH GRAVITY WASTEWATER MAIN FROM AN EXISTING 24 INCH WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR INTERCEPTOR NORTHWEST ALONG 71, REPLACING THE EXISTING EIGHT INCH WATER MAIN WASTEWATER MAIN LOCATED ON THAT PATH.

SO THE LA THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPOSED WASTEWATER MAIN AGAIN CROSSES AT LEAST ONE AND POSSIBLY TWO CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES AND WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONES FOR BARTON CREEK.

AND WHILE NECESSARY UTILITIES ARE ALLOWED TO CROSS CRITICALS.

AND THEN FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, YOU SEE AT LEAST ONE AND POSSIBLY TWO CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES AND WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONES FOR WILLIAMSON CREEK.

UM, CONSTRUCTION OF THE WASTEWATER MAIN AND LIFT STATION ARE REQUIRED BY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 25 8 TO BE LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONE AND CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, EXCEPT FOR NECESSARY UTILITY CROSSINGS

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IF CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET AS SET FORTH IN THE CODE, CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE CROSSINGS OF UTILITY LINES WITHIN THE BARTON SPRINGS ZONES ALSO MUST BE APPROVED BY THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

I'M SORRY, WATER QUALITY PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.

AND AT THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS SLIDE TALKS ABOUT ALTERNATIVE WASTEWATER SERVICE.

IF THE WASTEWATER SER WERE NOT APPROVED.

SO, UM, THE SITE IS ALLOWED 20% NET SITE AREA IN PERVIOUS COVER.

IF SERVICE WERE NOT EXTENDED TO THE SITE AND WASTEWATER SPOUSAL'S REQUIRED, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKELY APPLY FOR TEXAS LAND APPLICATION PERMIT WORK A T LAP WITH THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

AND THAT WE, UH, ESTIMATED THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE ROUGHLY 30 ACRES FOR WASTEWATER IRRIGATION.

AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEDUCTED FROM THEIR NET SITE AREA CALCULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITS.

AND THAT W BECAUSE THE SITE ALSO CONTAINS STEEP SLOPES, AND THIS MAY ALSO FURTHER LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF SUITABLE AREA FOR WASTEWATER IRRIGATION.

SO BASED ON THIS, THIS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEVELOPMENT DEVELOP WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF INTENSITY IF THE WASTEWATER SCR IS NOT GRANTED.

SO BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE VIOLET CROWN WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.

THE IMPACTS FROM THE PROPOSED WATER AND WASTEWATER LINES WOULD REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS CURRENTLY WORKING TO PROTECT FOR WATER QUALITY AND ENDANGERED SPECIES PROTECTION.

UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

WE ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANTS PHYSICALLY HERE AND ON THE PHONE, UH, W I WANT TO GIVE A PRESENTATION AND THEN WE HAVE LOTS OF RESIDENTS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AS WELL.

SWATHS OF THE SITE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE A FOCAL POINT THAT WE, AS A DEVELOPMENT GROUP AND ME PERSONALLY HAVE A LOVE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT I GREW UP IN COLORADO.

UH, I THINK WE'LL MOVE TO THE APPLICANT AND I'D LIKE TO APPLICANT, AND NOW HE HAS A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES, INCLUDING THE REBUTTAL.

SO IF YOU WANT US TO DIVIDE THIS UP IN ANY SPECIFIC WAY, LET US KNOW BEFORE THE TIMER STARTS, THE APPLICANT ON YES, SIR.

COME DOWN AND STATE YOUR NAME.

MA'AM DO YOU WANT ME TO KEEP THIS ON GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I AM CRAIG BRYAN.

I AM JOINED BY STEVE KEENAN.

HE'S MY CIVIL ENGINEER, AND A GENTLEMAN NAMED JIM WHITLAM.

HE IS ALSO ON THE CALL.

I'LL START OUT BY JUST KIND OF GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF THE GOAL AND PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT.

THIS GOAL AND PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS TO PROVIDE THE CITY OF AUSTIN WITH A VENUE THAT IS UNLIKE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

UM, RED ROCKS HAS ITS, YOU KNOW, FEATHER IN ITS CAP.

AND SO DOES THE HOLLYWOOD BOWL, AND WE'RE TRYING TO BLEND THE TWO OF THEM IN A MANNER THAT IS ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS AS BEST WE CAN AND ABOVE WHAT IS REQUIRED IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS, IS IN DIRE NEED OF THAT SAID, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR PROJECT LOOKED LIKE.

YOU CAN SEE A 20,000 PERSON AMPHITHEATER, TWO RESIDENTIAL TOWERS WITH SOME PARKING BELOW RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM AND TWO FLOORS OF OFFICE, A DRIVING RANGE, STYLE GOLF COURSE.

I'M GOING TO TOP GOLF AND TWO LARGE PARKING GARAGES OF WHICH WE CAN PULL OVER AROUND TWO THIRDS OF THE CARS OFF OF THE ROADS WITH THE TWO MILES OF THROAT INSIDE THE PROJECT TO ELIMINATE TRAFFIC AMONG OTHER MANY THINGS WE'RE DOING TO START WITH THERE'S FAINT FOUR MAJOR CONCERNS THAT ARE CONTINUALLY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

NUMBER ONE IS TRAFFIC.

NUMBER TWO IS SOUND LIGHT AND ENVIRONMENT AND ENVIRONMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME TIME LOOKING AT THAT, WHICH BOILS DOWN TO THE BARN CREEK WATERSHED, AND ALSO THE GOLDEN SHADE WARBLER.

UM, AT ANY TIME, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE JOIN IN OR ASK ME, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

I WILL BE PASSING IT OFF OCCASIONALLY TO SOME OF MY OTHER PARTNERS AS WE GO THROUGH AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE PULL UP AND LET MR. WHITLAM IF HE IS ON SPEAK TO THIS POINT, AND IF HE IS NOT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO IT.

AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE, UM, EARLIER THIS EXACT SLIDE WAS SHOWN WHERE IT SITS ON THE SITE, AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO FURTHER PICTURE OF THE FACILITY AND GO ON DOWN TO ABOUT THREE MORE SLIDES, SOMETHING I WANT TO MAKE A POINT ON IS THIS PROJECT AND CONTAINS AN ENDOWMENT AND THE ENDOWMENT IS THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IT CONTAINS UP GYMS HERE.

THE LONGER LONGEST SORT OF IS WITH REGARD TO THIS ENDOWMENT.

IT TOUCHES ALL

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I SPENT MANY OF MY YOUTH HIKING AROUND THE MOUNTAINS.

I DON'T INTEND TO DO THIS PROJECT IN A WAY THAT'S NOT ABOVE BOARD AND WAVE MORE SO ABOVE A WAY THAT IS THE STANDARD.

I WANT TO MAKE THIS A CROWN JEWEL OF HOW TO DO SOMETHING, RIGHT, ESPECIALLY FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT IN A SENSITIVE SPACE.

SO WE BELIEVE IT'S SO MUCH IN WHAT THE ENVIRONMENT IS IMPORTANT TO US.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GIVE MONEY TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, REGARDLESS OF THIS OUTCOME.

IT IS SOMETHING WE BELIEVE IN AND WANT TO CONTRIBUTE AND CONTINUE TO MAKE THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WHICH I LOVE AND LIVE HERE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I'M GONNA LET, UM, MR. EDENS SPEAK FOR A MOMENT ON SOME OF THOSE POINTS BROUGHT UP IN RELATION TO THE SLOPES AND THE GENERAL PLANNING OF THE LOCATION COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, STEVEN, AND WITH LOL ENGINEERING, UH, ONE OR TWO, UH, DISCUSS BRIEFLY SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO THE PROJECT.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WATER QUALITY.

OF COURSE, THE PROJECT WILL COMPLY WITH SOS STANDARDS AND THEY, UH, GOAL OF THE SOS STANDARDS AND IS PROVEN TO BE, UM, VERY SUCCESSFUL IS TO PROVIDE A NON DEGREGATION, UH, RESULT.

AND SO DOWNSTREAM IT'LL BE AS IF THE PROJECT DIDN'T EVEN EXIST, THE PROJECT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL OF THOSE ASPECTS.

I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT TO EVERYONE THAT THE, THE WASTEWATER SYSTEMS WILL BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, AND THEY WILL BE DESIGNED TO MEET PUBLIC STANDARDS.

SO THEY'LL HAVE THE BACKUP SYSTEMS, THEY'LL HAVE THE, THE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE SO THAT, UH, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE BECAUSE THE CITY OF AUSTIN WILL BE OWNING AND MAINTAINING IT, THAT THEY WILL BE UP TO STANDARDS, UH, FOR IN PERPETUAL.

AND THEN ALSO I WANTED TO JUST POINT OUT BRIEFLY THAT THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES AND WATER QUALITY IS TRANSITION ZONES, THAT, THAT ARE BASICALLY THE BASIS OF STAFF'S CONCERN ON THE PROJECT THEY'RE ALREADY LARGELY IMPACTED.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING RIGHT ALONG THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, AND IT'S ALREADY A, YOU KNOW, A FIVE OR SIX LANE, UH, WIDE ROAD.

AND SO THE ADDITIONAL IMPACT OF CONSTRUCTING A WATER OR WASTEWATER LINE THROUGH THESE CRITICAL ZONES, UM, IS, IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL IMPACT AT ALL.

AND FINALLY, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THE EXHIBITS IS, IS SOMEWHAT MISLEADING.

UH, TONIGHT I NOTICED THAT IT LOOKS AS IF WE'RE ACTUALLY CROSSING BARTON CREEK AND WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY CROSSING BARTON CREEK IN ANY SITUATION.

UM, WE'RE CROSSING TRIBUTARIES.

AND THAT IS, THAT IS A FACT, UM, MR. IAN HAS ALSO WORKED AS A CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE BARTON CREEK, OR I'M SORRY, AT THE BK OF GALLERIA OF WHICH FROM MY UNDERSTANDING HAS NEVER HAD ANY LOSS OF WATER THROUGH THE WATER CONTROL MEASURES PLACED THERE.

SO HE HAS WORKED IN THE AREA AND KNOWS IT VERY WELL.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HIRED HIM ALONG WITH OTHER THIRD-PARTY CONSULTANTS TO CONFIRM THOSE EXACT POINTS SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST OUR EYES LOOKING AT IT.

IT'S THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS VERIFYING WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

MR. WICKLIFFE, PLEASE.

UH, ADD YOUR PART.

I'M SORRY IF I WAS CUTTING IN, UM, I, UM, CHAIR, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE LEFT? FOUR MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS, JIM.

EVERYONE USES AVIARY KNITTING.

I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO HIT THIS AS QUICK AS I CAN.

UH, I'M JUST GONNA REFER TO A MEMORANDUM HERE, UH, FROM, UH, SHERRY KOOL THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE OFFICER TO, UH, AUSTIN WATER AND WHY THEY'RE RECOMMENDING AGAINST THIS.

SHE'S SAYING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE NOISY IMPACTS AND ADVERSE EFFECTS FOR THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER.

WE CAN SHOW YOU THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO RUN OUT OF THE TIME.

BIRD STRIKES TO RESIDENTIAL TOWERS.

UH, WE ARE DESIGNING THIS AND HAVE DESIGNED THIS FROM THE BEGINNING, UH, WORKING WITH THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCIES BIRD FRIENDLY BUILDING GUIDE.

WE WILL VASTLY EXCEED ALL OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS.

THIS WILL BE A VERY BUILT UP BIRD FRIENDLY, UH, UH, TOWERS ON THIS PROPERTY.

UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT BURTON MORTALITY FROM THE, UH, NETS AROUND THE GOLF DRIVING RANGE.

THEY WILL USE AVIARY NETTING.

NOW THAT IS NO LONGER A PROBLEM.

UH, STEVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE IS MUCH OF THE SITE IS, UH, 15 TO 20% SLOPES.

ACTUALLY THERE'S ONLY 9.7% OF THE SITE.

THAT'S 15 TO 20% SLOPES AND 79.7% OF THE SLOPES ARE LESS THAN FIVE PER FIFTH.

I'M SORRY, LESS THAN 15%.

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UM, REGARDING SOUND POLLUTION.

WE WILL COMPLY WITH ALL TRAVIS COUNTY AND STATE OF TEXAS SOUND ORDINANCES.

AND OUR SOUND ENGINEERS HAVE ASSURED US THAT THE MADRONES AND SPANISH OAKS, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS WILL NOT HAVE INCREASED SOUND AS A RESULT OF OUR PROJECT.

UH, WE HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT'S BEEN DONE.

I HOPE YOU'LL ASK ME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT AF ADVERSELY IMPACTING TRAFFIC.

UH, AND, UH, THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER WILL NOT BE IMPACTED.

WE'VE HIRED, UH, PAUL SUNBEAM FROM BC, UH, OR I'M SORRY, SWCA.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THERE WON'T BE IMPACT ASKED ME ABOUT THAT.

AND I WANT TO JUST CLOSE BY SAYING THAT WHEN THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY HAS TO DECIDE WHETHER TO SERVICES, PROPERTY WITH COLLECTIVE WASTEWATER SERVICE, UH, I WANT TO POINT OUT WE ALREADY DO RECEIVE WATER SERVICE, EVEN THOUGH, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING A LARGER WATER LINE IF WE'RE APPROVED, BUT WE STRONGLY FEEL THAT PUMPING THIS WASTEWATER EFFLUENT INTO AUSTIN'S COLLECTIVE WASTEWATER SYSTEM IS BY FAR THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AND RESPONSIBLE ALTERNATIVE.

UH, AS KAYLA SAID EARLIER, IF THE CITY DENIES WASTEWATER SERVICE, WE HAVE TWO OTHER OPTIONS.

UH, WE CAN EITHER SEEK WASTEWATER SERVICE FROM A DIFFERENT PROVIDER AND THAT PROVIDER WOULD END UP SPRAYING IRRIGATING THE WASTEWATER EFFLUENT AFTER IT'S TREATED, OR WE WOULD GET A PERMIT TO BUILD AN ONSITE SYSTEM, AND THAT WOULD BE SPRAY IRRIGATED EITHER.

THOSE LAST TWO OPTIONS HAVE A HIGHER PROBABILITY OF POLLUTING BARTON CREEK THAN THE ONE THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR.

AND PLEASE ASK ME QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, JIM.

FURTHER TO POINT OUT SOME DETAILS RELATING TO THE LIGHT AND THE SOUND.

UM, WE HAVE HIRED A LIGHTING ENGINEER TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH DARK SCAR, DARK SKY COMPLIANCE IN THE AREA, WHICH MATTERS TO NOT ONLY THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS, BUT ALSO WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS MORE SO THAN JUST BEING DARK SKY COMPLIANT.

WE WERE STRIVING AND DESIGNING TO THE PURPOSE OF WINNING AN AWARD, WHICH WILL BE ONE OF SIX IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT IS NOT A CHEAP ENDEAVOR.

AND WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT AND RUN TO BUILD IT TO THAT STANDARD REGARDING SOUND.

THE SOUND ENGINEERING THAT IS BEING DONE IS GOING TO BE GREATLY SHOWN HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR MAP FROM TEXAS A AND M WHEN THEY DID THEIR STUDY, THE SOUND THAT WILL ACTUALLY CARRY FROM THE VENUE WILL ACTUALLY BE THE SAME LEVEL OF SOUND THAT IS ALREADY PRODUCED BY HIGHWAY 71.

AND THAT GOES ON FOR 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, VERSUS THE SOUND COMING FROM THE AMPHITHEATER WILL BE ONLY DONE FROM 8:00 PM TO I BELIEVE, MIDNIGHT, WHATEVER THE AUSTIN SOUND ORDINANCE, WHICH WE ARE WE'LL ABIDE BY AS WELL.

WE'LL DO ONLY ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS DURING THAT POTENTIAL TIME OF MESSING SEASON IN THE SPRING FOR THE GOLDEN GATE WARBLERS THOUGH, OUR SITE DOES NOT SIT ON IT.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? I STAY HERE.

UM, I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO NEXT IS WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SPEAKERS, OTHER SPEAKERS, AND THEN WE'LL CALL BOTH OF Y'ALL UP FOR QUESTIONS IF THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

CRAWFORD HAS NINE MINUTES, MIKE.

CLIFFORD, DO YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES? THANK YOU.

I'M MIKE CLIFFORD TECHNICAL DIRECTOR WITH THE GREATER EDWARDS AQUIFER ALLIANCE.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING A UNANIMOUS, NO VOTE FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION ON THIS SCR.

THIS IS THE LOCATION, AND THAT'S REALLY THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THE LOCATION.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BUILDING AN AMPHITHEATER AND ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX.

THIS IS JUST THE WRONG PLACE TO PUT IT.

AS YOU CAN SEE NEXT CLICK, OUR GOOD FRIEND, THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER IS IN THIS AREA.

IN FACT, ACCORDING TO THE NATURE CONSERVANCY, AND ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE TRAVIS AUDUBON ENGINEERS, THIS RED AREA IS ONE OF THEIR MOST POPULAR AREAS AND HAS THE HIGHEST DENSITY.

SO THOSE BIRDS WOULD BE CLEARED OUT.

UH, THEY WOULD CLEAR CUT SOME OF THOSE TREES THAT WOULD RUIN THEIR HABITAT.

SO LET'S JUST LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS THEY WANT TO PUT UP THERE.

KEEP CLICKING AMPHITHEATER, TWIN TOWERS, THREE NIGHTCLUBS, UH, TOP, TOP GOLF TYPE DRIVING RANGE.

KEEP GOING, UH, RESTAURANT POOL CLUB, UH, PARKING GARAGE, PROBABLY A SECOND PARKING GARAGE, A COMPUTER OR OFFICE SPACE.

AND WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF ROOM.

THERE'S ALSO A HELLA PAD, I BELIEVE IN THIS AS WELL.

SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE ELEVATION PROBLEM WITH THIS PROPERTY.

YOU SEE THE ELEVATION MAP IN THE WHITE AND THE RED.

THOSE

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ARE THE HIGH POINTS.

THE BLUE IS THE LOW POINTS.

SO YOU'VE GOT ALMOST A 250 FOOT ELEVATION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BARTON CREEK AND WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE THIS AMPHITHEATER SITE.

AND IT'S CONNECTED BY A TRIBUTARY OF BARTON CREEK.

THERE'S ALSO, YOU CAN'T SEE ON THIS MAP, A SECOND TRIBUTARY THAT COMES AROUND AND DRAINS THE SOUTH SIDE.

SO BASICALLY ANY, ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY STORMWATER, WASTEWATER, TRASH, CONSTRUCTION, SEDIMENT, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S JUST GOING TO FLOW DOWNHILL INTO THE CREEK.

AND OH, BY THE WAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE, AS THEY SAID, IF THEY RUN SEWER MAINS, THEY HAVE TO GO OVER FOUR DIFFERENT PART IN CREEK TRIBUTARIES THAT IS NOT SHOWN ON THIS MAP NEXT.

SO THIS IS HOW BARTON CREEK LOOKS IN THAT AREA TO ACTUAL, ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL STREAM.

JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, THIS IS A SWIMMING HOLE.

THAT'S SEVEN FEET DEEP, AND YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM IS CREDITED.

AS YOU CAN SEE YOUR HAND, THE REASON IT'S SO CLEAR THERE THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT UPSTREAM, UH, WHERE WE START TO FIND PROBLEMS ON BARTON CREEK IS WHEN THERE'S LOTS OF DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAD THE SCULPTURE FALLS, UH, SHUT DOWN WITH THE TOXICOLOGY, NOT BY COINCIDENCE, RIGHT UPSTREAM FROM THERE AS THE LOSS CREEK GOLF COURSE, PLUS THE LOST CREEK COUNTRY CLUB PLUS ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONE UP THERE.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT FOLLOWS IT IS EUTROPHICATION ALGAE.

YOU GET NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS IN THE WATER, AND IF IT GETS REALLY BAD AND THEIR CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT, IT CAN BECOME TOXIC ALGAE.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF OUR CONCERNS HERE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, THE SEDIMENT EROSION FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SITE IS GOING TO END UP IN BARTON CREEK AND ITS RIGHT PARENT AREAS, JUST BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION DIFFERENCE.

THEY CAN USE SILK FENCES, THEY CAN DO ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS.

YOU GET A BIG FLOOD COMES ALONG.

IT'S JUST GOING TO WASH EVERYTHING DOWN AT THAT CREEK NEXT ALSO WHERE THEY'RE INTRODUCING VEHICLES AND IMPERVIOUS COVER.

THE IMPERVIOUS COVER WOULD NOT ONLY LEAD TO CREEK POLLUTION CAUSE YOU HAVE ENGINE OIL, ANTIFREEZE, GAS, OTHER AUTO FLUIDS.

NOW IN THIS COMPLEX, ALL WASHING DOWN, UH, ALL INTO THE ALL INTO BARTON CREEK.

AND BECAUSE THERE'S SO LITTLE IMPERVIOUS COVER IN THIS AREA, AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH LOTS OF IMPERVIOUS COVER, ALL OF THE SUDDEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MUCH MORE FLOW GOING INTO BARTON CREEK.

SO THERE'S A FLOODING RISK AS WELL.

DOWNSTREAM.

IF THIS IS APPROVED, NEXT FERTILIZER OBVIOUSLY IS AN ISSUE.

YOU SAW ALL THE GRASS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.

SO RIGHT NOW THAT GRASS ISN'T THERE, IT'S MOSTLY TREES.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RIPPING DOWN TREES, PUTTING GRASS AND TEXAS SUMMERS.

YOU KNOW HOW GRASS DOES HERE.

SO LOTS OF FERTILIZER, LOTS OF NITROGEN PHOSPHORUS, AGAIN, GETTING INTO THE BARTON CREEK, WHICH WE DON'T NEED.

WHAT WE NEED IS LESS DEVELOPMENT IN THE BARTON CREEK WATERSHED OR AT LEAST RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF SCALE WITH EVERYTHING IN THE AREA NEXT.

SO THEN YOU HAVE ALSO THE LARGE CROWDS INTRODUCING TRASH NEXT.

AND AS I SAID, BARTON CREEK IS KIND OF AT A TIPPING POINT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD IN CERTAIN AREAS.

LIKE THE ONE I SHOWED YOU, BUT THERE'S OTHER AREAS WHERE WE'RE GETTING LOTS OF ALGAE AND EVEN NOW TOXICOLOGY SHOWING UP.

SO WE, WITH CLIMATE CHANGE WITH TEMPERATURES, GETTING WARMER, IT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE STRESS ON BARTON CREEK WITH EUTROPHICATION, WITH THESE RE UH, THESE, UH, NITROGEN AND PHOSPHOROUS NUTRIENTS.

NEXT HERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY TRIED TO DO WITH SILT FENCES.

UH, THIS WAS AT BARTON CREEK COUNTRY CLUB DEVELOPMENT IN THE NINETIES.

NEXT IT DIDN'T WORK.

BASICALLY.

THEY HAD A BIG OLD FLOOD CAME ALONG AND SILT FENCES JUST KIND OF WERE PRETTY MUCH USELESS.

AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TEXAS WITH CLIMATE CHANGE HYDROLOGISTS, RAYMOND SLADE DID A RECENT STUDY THAT SAID OUR DROUGHTS ARE GETTING LONGER AND OUR FLOODS ARE GETTING WORSE.

SO THAT THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

LIKE THIS IS WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S DROUGHT AND THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON, I'M SURE THE CREEK'S GOING TO BE FINE.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A BIG FLOOD IS THE BIG CONCERN.

LIKE THE ONES WE HAD, UH, LATE IN THE MEMORIAL DAY FLOOD OR THE HALLOWEEN FLOOD, ANY OF THOSE WOULD CAUSE INCREDIBLE PROBLEMS HERE NEXT, EVEN A SAND BERM THAT THEY PUT UP DID LITTLE TO KEEP SEDIMENT OUT OF BARTON CREEK THERE NEXT.

SO I WAS LISTENING TO THE DEVELOPER TALK AND THERE WERE SO MANY MISSTATEMENTS.

I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHERE TO START.

UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING LIKE THIS.

THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THIS STUFF WHERE WE'VE HIRED THE BEST ENGINEERS.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE CARE

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OF EVERYTHING.

WELL, THAT'S NOT, WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY FOLDER, THEY'VE BEEN REJECTED TWICE ON ALL OF THESE KEY THINGS FROM AUSTIN WATER, THE CASE MANAGER REVIEW THAT DRAINAGE REVIEW, ELECTRICAL, ENVIRONMENTAL, INDUSTRIAL WASTE, UH, SITE PLAN, WATER QUALITY.

THEY ARE NOT GETTING THIS THROUGH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT EXCEEDING THE REQUIREMENTS AS THEY SAY THEY WILL NEXT.

SO THE FINAL THING I WANT TO SAY IS WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS TO KEEP BARTON CREEK FROM BEING BEAUTIFIED.

AND YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT TO SOUTH SAN GABRIEL RIVER, THAT'S, THAT'S A RIVER THAT IS UP.

NORTH HAS HEAVY NUTRIENTS FROM WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

SAME THING COULD HAPPEN TO BARTON CREEK.

EVEN THOUGH THIS ISN'T A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, YOU STILL HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF NUTRIENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FERTILIZING OF THE, OF THE GRASSY AREAS.

AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE JUST PUTTING 20,000 PEOPLE INTO THIS SMALL AREA IS JUST SO OUT OF SCALE.

AND IT IS COMPLETELY GOES AGAINST THE IMAGINE AUSTIN INITIATIVE, WHERE WE COMMITTED TO EXTEND WASTE, NOT TO EXTEND WASTEWATER AND WATER AND ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE TO INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE BARTON CREEK WATERSHED.

THIS IS INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS IS WHAT WE SPECIFICALLY SAID, AUSTIN, AS A CITY DOES NOT WANT TO SUPPORT.

SO THAT'S MY TIME.

I, DID YOU WANT ME TO TAKE QUESTIONS OR, UH, NO, SIR, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE THAT.

ALRIGHT, NICOLE, NETHERTON YOU HAVE, UH, FIVE MINUTES PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME.

MY NAME IS NICOLE NETHERTON.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TRAVIS AUDUBON.

I AM HOLDING A STACK OF FOUR PENNIES, THESE WEIGH ABOUT 10 GRAMS, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SAME AS A GOLDEN CHEEKED WARBLER.

AS YOU KNOW, THE GOLDEN CHEEK IS A NEOTROPICAL MIGRANT.

THAT BREEDS ONLY IN CENTRAL TEXAS, WHICH MEANS THAT EVERY GOLDEN CHEEK WAS BORN IN THE HILL COUNTRY.

AND EVERY SINGLE ONE IS A NATIVE TEXAN.

A REASONABLE PERSON MIGHT WONDER WHY THIS BIRD IS IMPORTANT OR PERHAPS WHY ANY ONE SPECIES ON ITS OWN IS IMPORTANT.

AND THERE IS A HISTORY TO THIS QUESTION IN 1952, AUSTINITES STARTED NOTICING THE RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF CENTRAL TEXAS JUNIPER OAK WOODLANDS AND FORMED TRAVIS AUDUBON IN PART TO SET ASIDE THIS HABITAT FOR THE GOLDEN CHEEK IN 1996, VISIONARY LEADERS IN AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY PUT TOGETHER THE BALCONIES KENYA LANDS CONSERVATION PLAN TO MANAGE AND PROTECT HABITAT FOR OUR UNIQUE ENDANGERED SPECIES.

SINCE THEN DEVELOPMENT HAS CONTINUED TO ACCELERATE AS OUR CITY GROWS.

OUR LEADERSHIP HAS SO FAR FOUND WAYS TO BALANCE THE PRESSURES OF GROWING HUMAN POPULATION AND THE NEEDS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

BUT WE HAVE REACHED ANOTHER MOMENT WHEN VISION IS REQUIRED TO PROTECT WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT OUR HOME, THE GOLDEN SHEETS WARBLER, AND THE OTHER SPECIES PROTECTED BY THE BALCONY'S KENYAN LANDS.

CONSERVATION PLAN ARE ENDANGERED BECAUSE OF HABITAT LOSS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS, LIKE THE VIOLET CROWN TO AMPHITHEATER SHOW THAT THIS THREAT WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO GROW DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SCALE.

AND AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA IS SIMPLY A BAD IDEA THAT WILL FURTHER CONTRIBUTE TO HABITAT LOSS.

THE VIOLET CROWN AMPHITHEATER WOULD ALSO AFFECT EVERY ASPECT OF THE GOLDEN CHEEK, WARBLERS SURVIVAL, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE DECREASE OF CONTIGUOUS HIGH-QUALITY TERRITORY.

ACREAGE WELL STUDIED PROBLEMS WITH INCREASED WILDLIFE, URBAN INTERFACE, WELL-DOCUMENTED NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF LIGHT POLLUTION ON MIGRATORY BIRDS.

WELL-DOCUMENTED INCREASED EXPOSURE TO BIRD BUILDING COLLISIONS.

AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT A GLASS BUILDING WITH TREES PLANTED ON IT IS NOT A BEST PRACTICE FROM THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY AND THE LIKELY HARMFUL EFFECTS OF AMPLIFIED SOUND AND VIBRATIONS.

THE GOLDEN CHEEK WALL RULER EVOLVED TO BE RIGHT HERE AND ONLY HERE IT IS UNIQUE.

THE BIODIVERSITY AND ECOLOGY OF CENTRAL TEXAS, THAT ITS EVOLUTION, OUR UNIQUE, THE VISION OF OUR LEADERS TO PROTECT SENSITIVE SPECIES AND PRESERVE NATURAL SPACES HAS MADE AUSTIN UNIQUE.

SO WHY IS THIS BIRD IMPORTANT? WHY IS ANY ONE SPECIES ON ITS OWN IMPORTANT? THIS IS A TRICK QUESTION.

THE ANSWER IS THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ON ITS OWN IN NATURE, BIRDS ARE UMBRELLA SPECIES FOR ALL THE LOWER ORGANISMS IN THE SYSTEM.

BIRDS NEED THE SAME THINGS THAT HUMANS DO, CLEAN AIR AND WATER FOOD FOR OUR CHILDREN AND SAFE, QUIET PLACES TO MAKE SHELTER AND PROTECT.

OUR YOUNG THREATS TO BIRDS ARE WARNING FOR WHAT BECOMES THREATS TO US.

WE CAN NOT CONTINUE TO IGNORE LOSSES IN BIODIVERSITY, AND WE MUST NOT BE CAVALIER ABOUT THE LOSS OF OUR NATURAL HERITAGE.

SO REMEMBER THIS STACK OF PENNIES, IMAGINE

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THAT SOMETHING SO SMALL CAN HAVE A MUCH LARGER VALUE THAN IT MAY SEEM.

STUDIES SHOW THAT BIRDSONG INCREASES HUMAN FEELINGS OF WELLBEING AND LOWERS REPORTED FEELINGS OF STRESS.

SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT DURING THE CURRENT PANDEMIC, THE TEXAS A AND M STUDY FOUND THAT BIRDING AND ECOTOURISM GENERATE MORE THAN $9 BILLION IN TEXAS EVERY YEAR.

AND PEOPLE TRAVEL FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO CENTRAL TEXAS TO HEAR AND SEE THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER AND FINALLY NOTICING AND APPRECIATING BIRDS IS OFTEN A GATEWAY THAT INSPIRES A LIFELONG COMMITMENT TO CONSERVATION.

SO OUR CHOICES NOW WILL DETERMINE WHETHER IN A HUNDRED YEARS CENTRAL TEXANS CAN STILL HEAR THE SONG OF THE GOLDEN CHEEK EACH SPRING FOR THAT TO BE OUR FUTURE.

WE MUST NOT CONSIDER BUILDING PROJECTS ON THE SCALE OF THE VIOLET CROWN AMPHITHEATER.

WE MUST HAVE THE VISION TO PROTECT WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THE HILL COUNTRY.

NEXT, WE HAVE DAN SNODGRASS.

YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME IN THE MIC.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS DAN SNODGRASS ON THE CENTRAL AND WEST TEXAS PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IN TEXAS.

I'VE WORKED FOR THE NATURE CONSERVANCY FOR 25 YEARS, UH, AND ALL, BUT ABOUT A YEAR OF THOSE I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE BARTON CREEK HABITAT PRESERVE IN SOME FORM OR MANNER SINCE 1964, THE NATURE CONSERVANCY HAS CONSERVED NEARLY A MILLION ACRES OF LAND ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, INCLUDING MORE THAN 200 MILES OF RIVERS AND STREAMS, SCIENCE GUIDES, OUR WORK WHERE YOU RELY ON IT TO IDENTIFY CRITICAL AREAS IN TEXAS, TO PROTECT FOR MAXIMUM BENEFITS, TO BOTH PEOPLE AND NATURE YOU WOULD TO CHAIN SIDES, PLEASE.

THE BARTON CREEK HABITAT PRESERVE, WHICH SITS ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED VIOLET CROWN DEVELOPMENT IS AN AREA.

THE NATURE CONSERVANCY MANAGES THE TRULY DEMONSTRATES THE VALUE OF SMART CONSERVATION PURCHASED IN 1994.

BARTON CREEK HABITAT PRESERVE INCLUDES MORE THAN 4,000 ACRES OF PRISTINE LAND AND FOUR MILES OF BARTON CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH IT.

IT'S PART OF THE LARGER BALCONIES CANYONLANDS PRESERVE SYSTEM AND AN IMPORTANT LINK WITHIN A NETWORK OF PROTECTED LANDS IN CENTRAL TEXAS.

SLIDE THREE, PLEASE.

NOT ONLY DOES IT SAFEGUARD THE QUALITY AND QUANTITY OF WATER AND THE BARTON SPRINGS RECHARGE AND CONTRIBUTING ZONE.

THAT'S ALSO HOME TO NUMEROUS WILDLIFE SPECIES ENDEMIC TO CENTRAL TEXAS.

ON ANY GIVEN DAY, YOU CAN WALK THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND SPOT RARE PLANTS, GUADALUPE BASS IN THE BARTON CREEK, WHICH IS AGNI ENDEMIC TO THE EDWARDS PLATEAU DEER CODY'S BOBCAT'S PORCUPINES AND MANY OTHER SPECIES NOT TO MENTION MULTIPLE SPECIES OF BIRDS.

SPEAKING OF BIRDS, WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER.

THIS PROPERTY WAS SET ASIDE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER.

THIS PROPERTY CONTAINS PRIME HABITAT FOR ENDANGERED, THE WIND DANGER WARBLER.

IT'S SOME OF THE BEST GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER HABITAT AND TRAVIS COUNTY.

AND IT CAN BE SEVERELY COMPROMISED WITH TRAFFIC LIGHT NOISE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SCALE COULD CREATE SLIDE FOUR, PLEASE.

SO HERE'S SOME OF THE SCIENCE, HERE'S WHAT SOME OF THE SIGNS SHOWS, UM, BUILDING COLLISIONS UP TO A BILLION BIRDS A YEAR ARE KILLED IN COLLISIONS.

SEVERAL FACTORS INCREASED THE NUMBER OF COLLISIONS WITH THE BUILDING.

BIRDS ARE MORE LIKELY TO COLLIDE WITH LARGE EXPANSES OF GLASS THAT ARE CLOSE TO VEGETATION BECAUSE THEY PERCEIVE THE VEGETATION REFLECTED IN THE GLASSES.

HABITAT BUILDINGS WITH MORE WINDOWS THAT ARE LIT AT NIGHT ARE MORE DANGEROUS TO BIRDS AND THE TALLER THE BUILDINGS ARE THE MORE APT FOR BIRD STRIKES BECAUSE OF THE HIGH RISES AT THE BIOTIC CROWN PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE VERY TALL.

NEXT TO UNDEVELOPED HABITAT.

THEY WILL DEFINITELY POSE A PROBLEM FOR BIRDS.

ARTIFICIAL LIGHT.

MANY BIRDS USE LIGHTS FROM THE STARS TO NAVIGATE DURING THEIR MIGRATIONS ARTIFICIAL LIGHT FROM DEVELOPED AREAS CAN CONFUSE BIRDS AND DRAW THEM AWAY FROM THEIR MIGRATION LIGHT DISPLAYS THAT SHINE STRAIGHT UP INTO THE SKY ARE ESPECIALLY PROBLEMATIC.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE SEPTEMBER 11 MEMORIAL LIGHTS IN NEW YORK ATTRACT LARGE NUMBERS OF BIRDS THAT CONTINUAL CONTINUE TO CIRCLE AROUND THOSE LIGHTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, CONCERTS WITH BIG LIGHT DISPLAYS MAY CAUSE SIMILAR ISSUES, NOISE BIRDS MUST CHANGE HOW THEY SING IN NOISY URBAN ENVIRONMENTS SO THAT THEY CAN HEAR EACH OTHER BY MAKING THEIR SONGS LOUDER AND HIGHER IN NOISY ENVIRONMENTS.

IT'S ALSO MORE DIFFICULT FOR BIRDS TO HEAR THEIR CHICKS.

THIS CAN CAUSE A DOMINO EFFECT CHECKS THAT AREN'T HEARD COULD MISS FEEDINGS, WHICH CAN ULTIMATELY MEAN THAT YOU'RE WILL SURVIVE TO ADULTHOOD.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, IN A CITY LIKE AUSTIN, WHICH IS EXPERIENCING UNPRECEDENTED LAND DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES, BARTON CREEK HABITAT PRESERVES CONSERVATION VALUE HAS NEVER BEEN HIGHER POTENTIAL IMPACTS

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FROM THE MIXED USE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND 20,000 SEAT MUSIC VENUE IN SOUTHWEST AUSTIN ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNING TO US, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE VESTMENT THAT THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY, THE NATURE CONSERVANCIES AND OTHERS HAVE USED TO PROTECT THIS PROPERTY.

SOME FROM HORRIBLE CONDITIONS.

WE HAVE PATTY CLARK.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M PATTY CLARK.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT AUSTIN ZOO.

AUSTIN ZOO IS A NONPROFIT RESCUES YOU HOME TO 300 ANIMALS REPRESENTING 110 SPECIES, SOME RESCUED FROM SITUATIONS OF ABUSE, SOME ABANDONED, SOME SEIZED BY REGULATORY AGENCIES, SUCH AS TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE AND THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.

WE ALSO WELCOME ANIMALS FROM OTHER ZOOS AND SANCTUARIES WHO NO LONGER HAVE SPACE TO HOUSE THEM OR ANIMALS.

THEY ARE NO LONGER BREEDING.

MANY OF OUR ANIMALS WOULD NOT BE ALIVE TODAY.

HAD WE NOT RESCUED THEM, FULFILLING ONE OF THE TENANTS OF OUR MISSION TO HELP ANIMALS IN NEED PEOPLE PURCHASE AN EXOTIC ANIMAL AND SOON REALIZE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO CARE FOR THAT ANIMAL.

THEY OFTEN LOOK TO US TO BE THAT ANIMALS FOREVER HOME, WHERE IT CAN LIVE A HAPPY AND HEALTHY LIFE.

STRESS IS NOT ONLY A HUMAN AFFLICTION.

IT IS ALSO AN ANIMAL AFFLICTION, MANY OF OUR ANIMALS WHEN THEY ARRIVE AT AUSTIN ZOO DISPLAY SYMPTOMS OF STRESS, WE SEE STEREOTYPIC BEHAVIORS.

UM, WE SEE TH DUE TO THE STRESSES IN THEIR BACKGROUNDS AND WE ALL WORK HARD TO KEEP OUR ANIMALS ENRICHED THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES TO ELIMINATE THOSE BEHAVIORS AND MAKE OUR ANIMALS FEEL SAFE AND SECURE IN THEIR HOME.

THE PROPOSED VIOLET CROWN DEVELOPMENT WOULD INTRODUCE NEW STRESS SOURCE TO OUR ANIMALS AT HOURS WHEN THEY WOULD BE PEACEFULLY, RESTING AND SLEEPING, BRIGHT LIGHTS AND LOUD NOISES WOULD CREATE NEW STRESS DURING THE EVENING HOURS WHEN OUR ZOO HAS NO ANIMAL CARE STAFF MEMBERS TO REASSURE OUR ANIMALS, THAT THEY ARE NOT IN HARM'S WAY.

SO MANY OF OUR ANIMALS HAVE ENDURED HARDSHIPS IN THEIR LIVES BEFORE ARRIVING AT AUSTIN ZOO, THE LIGHT AND SOUND POLLUTION ALONE, SHOULD THIS PRO DEVELOPMENT BE ALLOWED TO PROCEED, WILL DISRUPT THE PEACE AND TRANQUILITY.

OUR ANIMALS HAVE COME TO KNOW AND DESERVE OUR ANIMALS CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK FOR THEM ON THEIR BEHALF.

I IMPLORE YOU TO REJECT THE PROPOSED VIOLET CROWN DEVELOPMENTS REQUESTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THIS EVENING, COMMISSIONERS SCOTT DUNCAN, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS SCOTT DUNCAN.

I AM A RESIDENT IN THE BARTON CREEK PRESERVE THE MAP THAT YOU SEE HERE BEFORE YOU SHOWS THE AREA THAT YOU'VE SEEN ON A NUMBER OF OTHER SLIDES THAT OUR SPEAKERS HAVE ADDRESSED.

YOU SEE THE VIOLET CROWN AND THEN HIGHLIGHTED.

THERE ARE THE OTHER AREA, HOMEOWNERS, ASSOCIATIONS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF AS, UH, THIS EVENING AS WELL.

LET ME JUST GO DOWN THE ROW REAL QUICKLY.

YOU SEE THE UPLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PRESERVE AT BARTON CREEK, THE MADRONES, THE MADRONES IS RIGHT UNDER THE VIOLET CROWN DEVELOPMENT.

OH, HAN THE OAK HILL ASSOCIATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS CIRCLE C OVERLOOK A STATES.

PATTY JUST TALKED ABOUT THE AUSTIN ZOO ON THE FAR LEFT.

THERE'S THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS PAISANO RANCH, J FRANK DOBY, A WRITER'S RETREAT, A 400 ACRE PARCEL THERE.

THE BARTON COVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE BARTON CREEK PRESERVE AND SPANISH OAKS.

ALL OF US ARE ALIGNED IN OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE VIOLET CROWN DEVELOPMENT.

AND YOU MIGHT ASK ME, MR. DUNKIN, WHY ARE YOU IN FACT, UH, OPPOSED TO THIS, OUR OPPOSITION IS EXACTLY, REALLY WHAT THE APPLICANT, UH, LAID OUT.

FIRST OF ALL, THE VISUAL IMPACT, THE LIGHT POLLUTION AND THE NOISE POLLUTION.

WHILE THOSE MAY SEEM A LITTLE SUPERFICIAL FROM A HUMAN PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE NOT IN FACT SUPERFICIAL AT ALL.

IF YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THE VIOLET CROWN IS PROBABLY REPORTEDLY THE HIGHEST ELEVATION IN TRAVIS COUNTY AT 950 ELEVATION AND 150 FEET ELEVATION, AND THEN CONSIDER ALL OF THE OTHER AREA AROUND IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER.

THEN I ASKED THAT YOU IMAGINE TWO HIGH RISE, RESIDENTIAL TOWER SITTING ON TOP OF THAT SHINING DOWN ON EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE SEEN FROM A LONG DISTANCE STANDING ON THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY OF THE VIOLET CROWN PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, THE PR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED TO BE LISTED THERE, BUT ULTIMATELY DIDN'T SUCCEED, UH, OFFERED AS PART OF THEIR SALES PITCH THAT YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN.

IN FACT, YOU CAN SEE FURTHER AND FROM A

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20 STORY, HIGH RISE OR SEVERAL OF THOSE SITTING THERE AT THAT LOCATION, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO BE SEEN FROM DOWNTOWN AND ALL ACROSS A LARGE PART OF TRAVIS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN FROM A STANDPOINT OF LIGHT POLLUTION AND NOISE POLLUTION.

IMAGINE THOSE BUILDINGS IMAGINE IN ADDITION, THE 20, 20,000 SEAT AMPHITHEATER, IMAGINE IN ADDITION TO THAT, A TOP GOLF TYPE FACILITY, 96 BAYS, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO TOP GOLF, YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THAT THE AREA'S WELL LIT.

IT PUMPS MUSIC TO ENTERTAIN THEIR GUESTS.

IT HAS 170 FOOT HIGH POLES WITH NETTING ALL AROUND IT.

AND HERE IN AUSTIN, AT LEAST THE TOP GOLF RUNS UNTIL MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, AND THEN UNTIL 11:00 PM ALL OTHER DAYS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

SO IMAGINE THAT FROM A STANDPOINT OF LIGHT POLLUTION, NOISE, POLLUTION, VISUAL IMPACT ON ALL OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AT MUCH LOWER ELEVATIONS.

ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS TRAFFIC.

UM, MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE READ ABOUT THE RECENT ROLLING STONES, ROLLING STONES CONCERT, UH, AT THE CODA AT THE CIRCUIT OF THE AMERICA'S AMPHITHEATER, WHICH HOUSES 15,000 PEOPLE.

THIS PARTICULAR AMPHITHEATER IS PROPOSED TO HOUSE 20,000 PEOPLE.

THE KV, KV YOUI AND OTHERS, UH, REPORTED IN THE NEWSPAPER REPORTED TRAFFIC CONGESTION, CAUSING PEOPLE TO SIT BOTH GOING TO THE VENUE AND COMING FROM THE VENUE FOR AS MUCH AS TWO HOURS WITH ALMOST NO PROGRESS, THAT TYPE OF CONGESTION SURELY WOULD ALSO EXIST ON OUR HIGHWAYS AND THOROUGHFARES.

ANOTHER KEY ISSUE IS TRAFFIC SAFETY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, YOU'LL SEE HIGHWAY 71, YOU'LL SEE SOUTHWEST PARKWAY.

YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT JUST OUTSIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE, HERE WE HAVE 2244 B CAVES, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SIX 20 ALL OUR HILL COUNTRY HIGHWAYS.

THE SPEED LIMIT OF THOSE ROADS IS ABOUT 55 MILES AN HOUR IN MOST PLACES, BUT MOST PEOPLE DRIVE FASTER.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD A NUMBER OF HUGE TRAFFIC CRASHES AND FATALITIES JUST IN 2021.

AND IT'S A CONTINUING CIRCUMSTANCE.

IMAGINE THEN THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO SPENT THE DAY AT THE DISTILLERY, PEOPLE WHO SPENT THE DAY OR THE EVENING AT THE AMPHITHEATER AND IMBIBE IN THAT LOCATION.

AND NOW THEY GET ON THE HIGHWAY.

I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ADDING TO SAFETY.

AND I THINK IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.

FINALLY, LET ME JUST MENTION THE RISK TO ENVIRONMENT.

EVERYONE ELSE HAS MENTIONED IT AND TALKED TO IT, I THINK EXTREMELY ELOQUENTLY, BUT FOR US AS NEIGHBORS, AS PERSONS WHO REGARD OURSELVES AS STEWARDS OF THIS AREA AS WELL, WE ARE HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND RISKS THAT EXIST THERE.

FINALLY, I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT OUR ELECTED LEADERS HAVE SAID, AND HOWARD PUBLISHED AN OP-ED PIECE AND THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN IS RECENT RECENTLY AND HOWARD IS THE TRAVIS COUNTY, TRAVIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER PRECINCT THREE.

SHE SAID THIS, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR MY SUPPORT FOR HEALTHY DEVELOPMENT IN TRAVIS COUNTY, BUT ALSO MY OBJECTION FOR IRRESPONSIBLE OVERDEVELOPMENT, THE PROPOSED VIOLET CROWN OF 71 ACRE PROJECT WITH A 20 SEAT AMPHITHEATER OVER LIT GOLF DRIVING RANGE ON CHARACTERISTICALLY TALL, RESIDENTIAL TOWERS, HELLA PADS IS NOT HEALTHY DEVELOPMENT AND COULD IN FACT UNRAVEL MUCH OF WHAT WE HAVE FOUGHT LONG TO PROTECT, UH, BRIDGET SHEA, WHO IS OUR PRECINCT TO TRAVIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER JUMPED ON BOARD WITH THAT AND ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS.

AND AS DID ALSO PAGE ELLIS PRECINCT DATE, SHE SAID, I WANT TO STAND WITH COMMISSIONER HOWARD AND MANY CONSTITUENTS OF DISTRICT EIGHT, WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AS NEIGHBORS, AND ALSO AS STEWARDS OF THIS PROPERTY, OUR VIEW IS THIS IS RISKY TO THE ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE WILDLIFE.

IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE ZOO AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE.

AND, UH, WE URGE YOU TO, UH, PROTECT THAT INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE IN KEEPING THIS AREA BEAUTIFUL AND CLEAN AND HEALTHY FOR WILDLIFE AND FOR PEOPLE I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE ALSO THAT THIS PROPOSED SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST IS DIRECTLY IN CONFLICT WITH OUR IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, NEXT, UH, BILL BUNCH HAS THREE MINUTES IS HERE TODAY.

I'M HERE, BUT NOT REALLY.

HE'S TALKING LOUDER.

IS THAT BETTER? CAN YOU READ NOW? OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU, CHAIR GUERRERO, I'M BILL BUNCH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE AND ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT THIS YEAR.

UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING TO PROTECT THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER SINCE THE LIGHT, UH, OR I GUESS MID EIGHTIES WHEN WE, UH, PURSUED LEGAL EFFORTS TO HAVE IT LISTED INITIALLY AS ENDANGERED AND, UH, WORKED TO ESTABLISH THE BARTON SPRINGS PRESERVE THERE.

UH, CITY OF AUSTIN, TAXPAYERS AND RATE PAYERS HAVE SPENT MANY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PROTECT THAT AREA FOR BOTH ENDANGERED WILDLIFE AND FOR WATER QUALITY.

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IT WOULD VIOLATE THAT PLAN.

UM, THAT PLAN CARRIED OVER THE POLICY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN OUR AUSTIN TOMORROW, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

OUR PREVIOUS CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM 1979, WHICH SAID WE ARE SIMPLY NOT GOING TO EXTEND WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT IN THE BARTON SPRINGS EDWARDS DOCK FOR WATERSHED OR IN OUR OTHER WATER SUPPLY WATERSHEDS.

SO PLEASE RESPECT AND FOLLOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER, UM, AS, UH, SPELLED OUT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, UM, AS LAID OUT TO YOU BY YOUR WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT STAFF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

UH, ROY WALLY HAS THREE MINUTES.

ARE YOU HERE? HOW DO Y'ALL? MY NAME IS ROY WHALEY AND I'M ON THE CONSERVATION COMMITTEE FOR THE AUSTIN SIERRA CLUB, AUSTIN REGIONAL GROUP.

AND THIS IS CERTAINLY IN OUR REGION, UH, AND SIERRA CLUB EMPHATICALLY OPPOSES THIS CERVIX EXTENSION REQUEST AND THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE, UM, AS HAS BEEN SAID, IN FACT, THERE'S VERY LITTLE FOR ME TO SAY THERE'S HAD BEEN, SO I'M BASICALLY SWEEPING UP AFTER THE PARADE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT SPEAKERS THIS EVENING MAKING GREAT POINTS, BUT I DO WANT TO AGAIN, SAY FEAR CLUB IS OPPOSED TO THIS.

I CAN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR ENOUGH NOW THEN IT'S I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT THIS DOESN'T REALLY FLOW INTO BARTON CREEK, JUST, JUST THE CREEKS THAT FLOW IN TO BARTON CREEK.

WELL, THAT'S LIKE SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO KILL YOU.

I'M JUST GOING TO CUT YOUR ARMS OFF.

AND IN A WAY, THIS DOES JUST THE EXTENSION ITSELF WOULD OPEN THE DOOR FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT TO FOLLOW.

AND THIS IS A VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA THAT AS HAS BEEN SAID, WE HAVE SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PRESERVE.

WE DID IT TO PROTECT ENDANGERED SPECIES, BOTH ABN AND AQUATIC, NOT TO ENHANCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

UM, I MEAN IT FLOWS RIGHT DOWN TO THE CREEK.

IT IS THE HIGH POINT AND IT WILL BE SEEN FROM MILES AROUND, UM, UH, CITY AND COUNTY HAVE SPENT ALL OF THIS MONEY.

AND IF YOU LISTEN, IF YOU LISTEN TO NOTHING ELSE, UM, EVERYONE'S ASKED IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

UH, IF YOU'VE LISTENED TO NOTHING, BUT THE STAFF PRESENTATION, THE ONLY QUESTION YOU SHOULD HAVE AT THIS POINT IS WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS? EVERYONE VOTE? NO, I BELIEVE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF THIS COMMITTEE WILL SEE HOW BOGUS AND HOW DANGEROUS THIS DEVELOPMENT IS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

AND ZHOU PARCO ARE YOU HERE FOR THREE MINUTES? YOU GAVE TONIGHT.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

AND THEN, UH, THANK YOU, BOBBY.

LAVINSKY YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS BOBBY LEVINSKY AND I'M NOT HERE REPRESENTING THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE.

I'M ACTUALLY HERE REPRESENTING AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, THE LIMESTONE 40, UM, MY, UH, MY CLIENTS ALSO AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

AND, UM, I'M REALLY PLEASED TO REPRESENT HIM IN THAT BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST PROJECTS WE'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME.

UM, AUSTIN DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER TOP.

GOLF ALSO DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER LUXURY RESIDENTIAL TOWER AND AUSTIN CERTAINLY DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER PLAYGROUND FOR THE RICH, UM, THAT W THE, THE DEVELOPER SPOKE TO A NEED OF AUSTIN.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT'S ALREADY HERE.

WE, UM,

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I'M A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED.

I'M ATARI.

I WAS TAKEN A LITTLE BACK BY THE SLIDE WHERE HE SHOWED THAT HE WAS, UH, THEY WERE GOING TO PUT UP ENDOWMENTS FOR THE NONPROFITS HERE, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE, UM, MOST AGREGIOUS DISPLAYS OF BRIBERY THAT I'VE SEEN.

UM, WHEN THEY'RE A DEVELOPER HAS GONE BEFORE ONE OF THESE COMMISSIONS, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO TAKE THAT, LOOK AT THAT SLIDE AND NOT VOTE, UM, ON MAYBE A WEEK RECUSE YOURSELVES FROM VOTING.

IF YOU ARE SERVED ON ONE OF THE BOARDS OF ONE OF THOSE NONPROFITS, BECAUSE HE PUTS YOU GUYS IN A VERY DIFFICULT SPOT THERE, UH, I WANT TO REFOCUS THE CONVERSATION ON WHAT, WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING DECIDED TODAY IS A SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST.

SO THERE'S, THERE ARE A TON OF ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, UM, CRITERIA THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT WITH THE SITE PLAN AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

BUT THE FIRST STEP HERE IS WHETHER OR NOT JUST TO SERVE THE SITE WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER, AND THE ANSWER SHOULD BE NO BASED OFF OF LONGSTANDING CITY POLICY.

WELL, FIRST, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS HAD THAT POLICY THAT SAID THAT IF YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU EXTEND SERVICES TO OFF SITE, AND IT INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE BUILT, WE SHOULD BE REJECTING.

IT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS, AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT IS OUR BEST WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT WE PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT IN THESE AREAS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY UNDER ATTACK BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO REWROTE OUR CONTROL OF THOSE AREAS.

WE ALREADY CAN'T ANNEX ANYMORE.

WHAT'S NEXT? SO WE, THIS IS OUR, THIS IS THE LINE WE HAVE TO HOLD ON THESE DEVELOPMENTS SO THAT IF YOU CAN'T REMEMBER, IF, IF YOU CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT I'VE SAID, PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY ACTION.

YOU CAN SAY NO, AND THIS IS THE BEST TOOL FOR US TO SAY NO, AT THIS TIME FOR THE SITE, THE APPLICANT WILL MENTION THAT THERE'S OTHER SCARY ALTERNATIVES, SUCH AS GETTING A T LAP RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS NOT AN IDEAL SITE FOR A T LAP, BUT HE WOULD NEED TO PUT TOGETHER 30 ACRES ON THIS SITE IN A RELATIVELY STEEP AREA TO MAKE, TO ACHIEVE IT.

YOU MIGHT HAVE TO BRING IN DIRT TO ACHIEVE THAT SO THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE INCREASED CHANCE OF EROSION INTO THE CREEK, AND IT MIGHT BE HURTING THE WATER QUALITY DOWNSTREAM, WHERE WE'VE SPENT MILLIONS TRYING TO PROTECT BY INVESTING IN THE BARTON CREEK HABITAT PRESERVE.

THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL COMPLY WITH SOS.

YES, HE SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN FOR SOS COMPLIANCE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE WON'T CHANGE HIS MIND AND TRY TO ACROSS VESTED RIGHTS IN THE FUTURE.

PLEASE JUST SAY, NO, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY IS, IS UNITED BEHIND THIS.

AND ONE OF THOSE NON-PROFITS HAS ALREADY ON THAT LIST HAS ALREADY SAID, NO, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE, THOSE OF YOU HAVE TWO QUESTIONS TO KICK THIS OFF.

UH, WE WILL PROCEED AND I'M GOING TO, UH, JUST GO DOWN THE LIST IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, SO I CAN KEEP TRACK, UM, KORESH, DO YOU HAVE TWO QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE THAT GREW UP IN THIS AREA, I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL OPPOSITION TO IT, RIGHT.

UH, YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THAT OBVIOUSLY WITH, YOU KNOW, MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, BUT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE ENTIRE SITE.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE REQUESTS FOR EXTENDING WATER AND WASTEWATER, RIGHT? SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS, RIGHT, THAT THE DEVELOPER APPLICANT MENTIONED WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER GETTING A SURROUNDING COMMUNITY TO BUILD IT, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE LIKE, WHAT IF IT'S WEST TRAVIS COUNTY LIKE BK OR SPICEWOOD OR LAKEWAY OR WHATEVER.

I THINK THE CHANCES OF THAT HAPPENING ARE RELATIVELY LOW.

AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION, UH, WHICH SEEMS TO BE MOST LIKELY, PROBABLY IS, YOU KNOW, BUILDING SORT OF THIS WASTEWATER IRRIGATION SIDE OF THE REQUIRED, I THINK 30 ACRES, WHICH WAS MENTIONED.

SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, UH, IF A WASTEWATER BREAK HAPPENS, RIGHT, THAT'S PRETTY BAD.

UM, IF WE HAVE THIS IRRIGATION, UH, SITE SET UP, RIGHT, AND THEN YOU HAVE, UH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UH, OPPOSITION MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, UH, NUTRIENTS OR FERTILIZER.

WHICH, I MEAN, BASICALLY IS WHAT WASTEWATER WOULD MOST LIKELY BE.

UM, AND IF YOU HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, TRAVELING BECAUSE OF RAIN OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, DOWNSTREAM OR DOWN SLOPES INTO THE WATER, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH I ASSUMED THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT.

CAUSE THIS SITE HAS MONEY BEHIND IT.

SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM.

UM, SO IF THE DEVELOPER COULD TRY AND GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THIS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ONSITE WASTEWATER IRRIGATION THING WOULD DO AND WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THAT WOULD BE, UH, I THINK THAT'S INFORMATION THAT WE COULD USE FOR SURE.

SO DO YOU REMAIN ON THAT

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IS THE QUESTION.

SO I HAD TO RESPOND TO THAT, SIR.

STATE YOUR NAME, UH, THIS CRAIG BRYAN AGAIN, UM, THE APPLICANT.

SO THE GREAT QUESTION, UM, AND WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT THROUGH A PLETHORA OF DIFFERENT ROUTES.

THE FIRST ROUTE BEING THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS AS MR. WICKLIFFE POINTED OUT WOULD BE TO HAVE THE, UM, WASTEWATER EXCENTRA REQUEST ON BECAUSE YOU CAN DOUBLE WRAP PIPES TAKEN UNDER THOSE TRIBUTARIES AS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE BY OTHER THOUSANDS OF PIPES LOCATED AROUND THE AREA.

WE KNOW THAT DEVIL, IF YOU WILL, THE SECOND POINT WOULD BE GOING TO RENT ANOTHER AREA WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUA.

THEY MAY GRANT IT.

THEY MAY NOT, WHATEVER THAT IS.

IT'S THE SAME CONVERSATION.

THIRD ONE IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR DECADES.

UM, IF NOT, UM, ALMOST, UH, DECADES IN ISRAEL, A LOT OF THE WASTE FROM TEL AVIV GETS TRANSPORTED DOWN INTO THE GROWING REGIONS TO THE SOUTH OF ISRAEL.

IT IS AN OPTION.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

AND WE, THE 30 ACRE POINT THAT IS BEING MADE, WE DO HAVE THAT ALREADY IN PLACE.

AND IT'S A FAIRLY FLAT AREA AS MR. WHITLAM AND MR. IAN POINTED OUT, THE ACTUAL SITE ONLY HAS VERTICAL SLOPES ON THE ACTUAL HILL PORTION AND THE REST OF IT'S ACTUALLY FAIRLY FLAT.

HENCE WHY THERE WERE SO MANY, UM, HOME BUILDING SITES LOCATED ON IT.

DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR WOULD YOU LIKE FURTHER INFORMATION ON THAT? YEAH, WELL, SO WOULD THERE BE SORT OF LIKE A, I GUESS LIKE A, AN OVERFLOW WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS WA THIS WASTEWATER IRRIGATION STUFF, LIKE, UH, WOULD IT BE ABLE TO GO INTO LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE SURROUNDING TRIBUTARIES OR CREEKS OR WHATEVER WOULD MOSTLY BE CONTAINED? AND THE ENTIRE INTENT IS ALWAYS TO HAVE NO WATER LEAVE THE SITE, REGARDLESS OF WHICH OF THE THREE OPTIONS WE GO WITH THAT WAS RECALLED THE WATER CONTROL MEASURE, UH, THE WASTEWATER WATER OR NOT THE WASTE WATER BONDS, BUT THE PONDS OF RUNOFF, THE POINT THAT'S MADE ABOUT FERTILIZER BEING PLACED ON THE SITE IN GENERAL, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE INTENT WE INTEND TO MAKE IT ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO NATURAL TEXAS, UM, TERRITORY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BE PUTTING GRASS OUT AND PUTTING BERMUDAGRASS, THAT'S NOT THE INTENT AT ALL.

SO THE GRASS IS ALREADY THERE.

WE'LL ABSORB A FAIR AMOUNT OF IT.

THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE FOR RUNOFF.

AND IT JUST IS ANOTHER OPTION.

IT'S ONE OF THE MANY THAT WE HAVE.

SO THERE WILL BE RUNOFF.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT.

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT, UM, ISSUE TO HAVE THAT COULD BE DEALT WITH BY HAVING THE WASTEWATER MAIN PUT IN PLACE.

HENCE WHY WE'RE COMING TO YOU FIRST, UM, AS WE ARE HERE, APPRECIATE IT.

AND JIM, UH, WEIGHTLIFT MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK FURTHER ON THAT.

UM, SINCE HE HAS INTERACTED WITH THIS TYPE OF PROJECT BEFORE RELATING TO THE WASTEWATER AFFLUENT TREATMENT PLANT, JIM, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH, I'M HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER IS I'M SORRY.

COMMISSIONER.

UM, THE GOAL IS TO NOT HAVE ANY RUNOFF UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IF THE WASTEWATER EFFLUENT GOES INTO A FOREST MAINE AND IS PUMPED THREE MILES INTO THE CITIES TO WHERE IT REACHES TO THESE, UH, GRAVITY LINES, UH, FIRST OF ALL, NO ONE CAN TIE INTO A FORCE MAIN BECAUSE IT'S A FORCE MATE.

UH, SO, SO THIS IS NOT GONNA OPEN UP WASTEWATER SERVICE TO AN AREA.

SECOND OF ALL, THE AREAS AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID IS ALREADY SURROUNDED BY, UH, 5,000 ACRES OF PRESERVED LAND.

THERE IS NO DEVELOPABLE LAND AROUND THERE.

THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN MEANT FOR DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANTED IN 1981.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A RESEARCH PARK AND OFFICE COMPLEX.

AND THEN, UH, IN, UH, 2000 AND, UH, AND FIVE, THE ADJACENT, UH, 30 ACRES TO THE, TO THE SOUTH WAS PLANTED AS A HIGH END RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH A MOPE 12 ACRE MULTIFAMILY SITE.

SO THAT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE WANT TO DO ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS DEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT SITE.

IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT PRESERVED LAND.

WE, WE PAID THE FEE, THE $250,000 FEE.

WE PARTICIPATED IN THE BCP AND, UH, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS SITE FROM THE BEGINNING.

I'VE, I'VE SPENT TWO YEARS CONVINCING PEOPLE.

WE NEED THE BEST EXPERTS WE NEED.

WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BIRD STRIKE PROBLEM.

WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE LIGHT POLLUTION OR SOUND POLLUTION.

ADD TO THAT

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UH, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU WANT FURTHER INFORMATION ON ANY OF THIS, OUR WEBSITE HAS ACTUAL LETS THE EXPERTS, TELL YOU WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY DO IT AND WHY THEY DO IT.

AND IT'S ALL ON THE WEBSITE.

AND AT ANY TIME I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH ANYONE.

SO IF YOU WANT MORE DETAIL, YOU CAN GET IT THERE, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO KEEP ANSWERING ANYTHING ON THAT POINT.

SOUNDS GOOD.

UM, DO YOU HAVE TWO QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW FOR US COMMISSIONER BARRETT, BACHELOR? HI.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I DO NOT SEE ANY SCENARIO WHERE WATER OR WASTEWATER SHOULD BE EXTENDED AND I DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

UH, NEXT LET'S GO TO, UM, COMMISSIONER BRIMER YES, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IF, UH, WE DO NOT APPROVE THE SCRS, UH, YOU LISTED SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR DEALING WITH THE WASTEWATER.

WHAT WOULD YOUR OPTION BE FOR OBTAIN A DRINKING WATER? UM, WE ALREADY HAVE DRINKING WATER ON THE SITE.

ACTUALLY WE HAVE A 14 INCH MAIN ALREADY, OR A 14 INCH WATER LINE ALREADY THERE PROVIDED BY AUSTIN WATER.

AND THERE ARE TWO SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN PUT A TANK TO PROVIDE ENOUGH PRESSURE IN ONE OF THE, UH, AREAS AT THE HIGHER ELEVATION OR INTO A PARKING GARAGE.

SO THE WATER ISSUE IS ALREADY, UM, NOT IT'S MOOT THAT I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, SIR.

UH, WELL SORT OF, SO WHY DO YOU NEED WATER IF YOU HAVE A WATER PIPE AND IT WATER SOLUTION, IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO US TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PIPE DUE TO THE WATER PRESSURE FOR THE FIRE HYDRANT PORTION, BUT THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS.

UM, BUT WATER IS ALREADY TO THE SITE AS IT WAS ALREADY PARTIALLY DEVELOPED AND HAS, UM, PLANTED FOR SITE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I MAY HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS, UH, WHEN WE COME BACK AROUND.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO NEXT TO, UH, COMMISSIONER BEDFORD.

UM, I WAS KINDA CURIOUS CAUSE, UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE SITE IS GOING TO GO OVER, UH, IS GOING TO CROSS SEVERAL, UH, TRIBUTARIES.

SO I KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW IF THE TRIBUTARIES HAVE BEEN KIND OF ASSESSED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF AQUATIC LIFE WOULD POSSIBLY BE AFFECTED BY, UM, BY THE SITE CROSSING THOSE TRIBUTARIES, LIZ JOHNSTON WATERSHED PROTECTION.

UM, NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.

UM, WE, UH, IF, IF THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST GETS APPROVED AND THEN, UM, WE WOULD BE REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN AND LOOKING AT IMPACTS THERE, BUT WE DON'T, WE, UH, FOR, FOR SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OUT TO EVERY LITTLE, EVERY SITE AND ASSESS, UM, UM, IMPACTS.

BUT WE DO KNOW THAT IN THIS PART OF TOWN, UM, TRIBUTARIES TO BARTON CREEK GENERALLY HAVE VERY HIGH WATER QUALITY.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BASING OUR, UM, INPUT OR A RECOMMENDATION ON.

AND ALSO, UM, I WAS KINDA CURIOUS AND, UM, IF THERE WAS ANY PROPOSED, UM, ANY PROPOSED METHODS THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT FOR CONTROLLING EROSION AND ELLEN, ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS I HAD MENTIONED LIKE SILT FENCES, NOT BEING REALLY, UM, A GOOD EROSION CONTROL TECHNIQUE FOR WHEN LIKE FLOODING HAPPENS.

SO IT WAS KIND OF WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY, UM, ANY PROPOSED, UH, EROSION CONTROL TECHNIQUES BEING WITH THAT.

THE SITE ITSELF RE IS BEING REVIEWED FOR THE EROSION CONTROL IMPACTS FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

UM, PAMELA ABBY TALI IS HERE, SHE'S THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWER WHO CAN SPEAK TO THE COMPLIANCE OR NOT COMPLIANCE OF THAT AT THIS TIME.

UM, AND THEN IF THE LINES THEMSELVES, BUT ALSO HAVE TO, UM, SUBMIT AN EROSION CONTROL PLAN IF THEY WERE, IF IT WERE TO BE AND REVIEWED.

SO WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN.

ALRIGHT.

UH, WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER RAMBERT.

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THEN WE'LL GO NEXT TO COMMISSIONER BRISTOL.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

AND THANK YOU FOR, UM, EVERYBODY'S PRESENTATION AND THEIR DEEP CONCERN, UH, OVER, UH, THIS PROPERTY.

UM, I'VE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I ALSO, UH, WANT TO READ OUT A COUPLE OF FIGURES.

SO THIS IS COMING STRAIGHT FROM, UM, UM, THE NATURE TOURISM AND LONE STAR STATE.

SO IN 1994, UM, THE NATURE TOURISM WAS AROUND $238 BILLION.

WORLDWIDE 9 BILLION OF THAT IS SPENT IN TEXAS.

AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT PEOPLE DO WITH NATURE, TOURISM DOLLARS IS BIRDING.

THE GOLDEN CHEEK.

WARBLER IS ONE OF THE LIFELESS BIRDS THAT PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO SEE THAT'S $9 BILLION THAT IS BROUGHT INTO OUR ECONOMY TO SEE SPECIFIC SPECIES.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO IGNORE THAT.

THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT FIGURE.

WHAT DOES THIS REALLY MEAN TO OUR ECONOMY AS WELL AS WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO OUR HABITAT? SO I WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

I ALSO WANT TO GO BACK TO, UM, A STATEMENT THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU, YOU HAVE WATER ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT YOU, BUT THAT YOU CAN, THAT YOU NEED MORE WATER PRESSURE TO MEET THE FIRE SAFETY.

SO REALLY TRULY, IF, IF YOU NEED MORE WATER TO MEET THE FIRE SAFETY, THEN YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH, UH, TO BUILD A FACILITY.

TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AND THE PRESSURE AND THE FIRE SAFETY PART OF THAT.

HOW LET JIM EXPLAIN THAT ONE FURTHER, BUT WE HAVE A 14 INCH WATER MAIN AND WE'RE REQUESTING MORE.

GO AHEAD, JIM.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, JUST SOME, SOME HOUSEKEEPING, IT'S A 12 INCH LINE THAT WE HAVE ON SITE AND SOME FIRE HYDRANTS, UH, AND A COUPLE OF TAPS.

UM, SO WE ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR THE WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION MINE.

IT WAS THE CITY'S IDEA THAT WE BUILD THE 16 INCH WATERLINE AND THEY BASE THAT ON AN ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, I HAVE TALKED WITH, UH, FOLKS AT THE CITY AND OF COURSE WE'VE TALKED A LOT WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY FIRE MARSHALL AND WE CAN MEET THE, UH, THE, UH, FIRE FLOW NEEDS IN OTHER, IN OTHER WAYS A LOT OF SITES DO IT.

THEY, THEY PUT A TANK ON, ON SITE AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE THEY PUT, THEY PUMP WATER DURING OFF PEAK HOURS AND USE THAT FOR FIRE.

SO WE HAVE THAT OPTION.

UM, WE'RE JUST POINTING OUT THAT, THAT, THAT WATER ALREADY IS THERE.

WE ARE ALREADY IN AUSTIN CCM FOR WATER.

WE'RE NOT IN THE CCM FOR WASTEWATER.

SO WE'VE ASKED FOR THE WASTEWATER, THIS CITY, UH, ASKED US TO, UH, ALSO APPLY FOR WATER.

SO WE DID, AND THAT'S WHERE WE STAND THERE, BUT, UH, YEAH, OUR, OUR OPTIONS WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS IT WAS STATED BY, UH, UH, KAYLA, UH, CHAMPLIN IN HER ORIGINAL PRESENTATION.

WE MIGHT HAVE TO SCALE THE PROJECT DOWN.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE USING A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE, UH, OF THE NET SITE AREA FOR, UH, IRRIGATION, THE PROJECT IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET SCALED DOWN AND, UH, UH, SOME IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT END UP BEING BUILT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN ENTIRE POSSIBILITY IF WE DON'T GET THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.

THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.

SO, UM, I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT BILL BUNCH SAID, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, AND I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH THIS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND SO MANY YEARS, UM, PROTECTING THIS, UH, THIS REGION OF, UH, OUR GREAT COUNTY AND OUR CITY.

AND IT WOULD BE FOLLY, I THINK, ON OUR PART TO NOT CONTINUE THAT INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO CLOSE WITH THAT AND, AND THAT SHOULD TELL YOU KIND OF WHERE MY MIND IS AT, UM, ON THIS, UH, THIS PROPOSAL.

UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

DO YOU HAVE TWO QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, DO YOU HAVE TWO QUESTIONS?

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YES, I DO.

UM, UM, UH, LIZ, UH, JOHNSON MIGHT BE, UM, POSSIBLY THE ONE TO ANSWER THIS OR, OR CYLIN ON THE STAFF, BUT, UM, I TALKED TO HER EARLIER TODAY TO, UM, CHECK LESNIAK, UM, WHO, UH, WAS ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, UH, FOR, UH, AUSTIN, UH, FOR 28 YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW.

UH, I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU COULD BE, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE SEEN HIS, UH, HIS, UH, EMAIL, UH, PREVIOUS TO THE MEETING.

HE STRONGLY OPPOSED, UH, APPROVING, UH, THIS, UM, UH, REQUEST.

UM, AND, UH, HE, UH, HE, IS IT, IS IT NOT TRUE THAT ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE, WE ARE VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT TO ALLOW, UM, WASTEWATER AND NOTHING ELSE IS THAT, UH, THE WASTEWATER JUMP TO GO TO THIS AREA? IS THAT NOT WHAT IS ACTUALLY PRESENTED TO US TO VOTE ON? IS THAT, IS THAT, AM I CORRECT ON THAT? CORRECT.

THERE ARE TWO SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS UP FOR RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING.

ONE IS FOR A WATER AND ONE IS FOR A WASTEWATER.

THAT IS WHAT THE, THE, UM, ACTION ITEM IS.

AND IS IT, IS IT NOT TRUE THAT, UM, THIS IS A AREA WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, THE LIMITS OF, UM, AUSTIN, UH, SO THAT, UM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE'RE PRESENTED, AS FAR AS WHAT VIOLET, CROWN, UH, UH, TELLS US ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, THAT, THAT IN FACT WE HAVE, UM, NO, UM, WAY OF ENFORCING OR REQUESTING ANY, UM, AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES OR, UH, UH, LOOKING AT HOW MANY TREES ARE CUT DOWN OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT, BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE IN, IN OUR JURISDICTION.

IS THAT NOT TRUE? UM, CORRECT.

IT IS NOT IN OUR, IT IS IN OUR PLANNING JURISDICTION, IT'S IN THE ETJ, SO THERE'S NO LAND USE AUTHORITY.

WE DO HAVE WATER, WE HAVE WATER QUALITY AND, UM, AND SOME PROTECTIONS THAT ARE APPLIED THERE.

UM, I THINK WHAT YOU MIGHT BE THINKING OF IS THAT WE ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE ANY OR REQUEST ANY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.

AND SO, SO, UH, WITH A, WITH A GOLF COURSE, IF, IF, UH, IF THEY CUT DOWN ANY TREES, THEY WANT TO, THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING, UH, WE HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER ANY OF THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? AND I JUST WANNA DO ONE MORE THING.

ANYBODY RECOGNIZE THAT SONG, JENNIFER , THAT'S A GOLD CHEEK WARBLER.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE WARBLER OUGHT TO GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF OR HERSELF.

I HAVE TO SAY, UM, I LIKE IT.

THIS IS, UH, IS IT WELL, IT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE PROJECT IN MANY RESPECTS.

AND I CAN, I, I MEAN, I CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT.

I, I REALLY, UH, STRONGLY THAT, THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ENTIRELY THE WRONG PLACE IN THE, YOU KNOW, UH, GEE, WHAT COULD GO WRONG? WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, I'VE BEEN THERE.

I'VE SEEN WHAT CAN GO WRONG, UH, WITH SO MANY THINGS, AND THIS IS JUST A PLACE WHERE WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO LONG.

UM, I JUST HAD TWO QUICK QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

ONE IS THE GOLDEN TREE, THE GOLDEN CHEEK ROBBERS STILL ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST.

YES, IT IS.

AND SECOND, UH, WHEN I WAS ON THE SERVED ON THE, UM, BROCK COUNTIES, CANINE PRESERVE COMMITTEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, THE, THERE WAS SUCH AN IMPACT FROM THE RIDGE RIDERS.

THEY WERE TRYING TO PROHIBIT THOSE BIKERS TO BE ON IT ANY LONGER.

DO YOU KNOW WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THAT? NO, I'M SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TO.

SO ANYWAYS, WHEN WE WERE, WHEN I WAS SERVING MANY MOONS AGO, UH, JUST, THEY HADN'T ALLOWED THE RED RIDER BIKE GROUP TO HAVE SOME TRAILS WITHIN THE BCCP AND, UH, WE WERE SHOWN OVER AND OVER HOW JUST HAVING BIKERS ON

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THAT PRESERVE WAS CREATING ISSUES AND PROBLEMS. AND, UM, SO, OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

UM, ANYONE FOR OUR SECOND ROUND OF Q AND A YES.

BRISTOL COMMISSIONER PERSONAL, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

AND I WANT TO TEE OFF OF WHAT YOUR, UM, I THINK MAYBE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT IS AS FAR AS THE PRESSURE FROM THE RIDGE RIDERS, UM, AND, AND THE PRESSURE FROM OTHER GROUPS TO HAVE ACCESS, UM, TO THE BALCONIES, UM, CANYONLANDS PRESERVES.

UM, AND I ALSO FEEL THAT IF WE INCREASE THAT DENSITY IN THIS AREA, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT PRESSURE, UM, INTO THOSE PRESERVES, UM, WHICH IS NOT FAVORABLE, UM, TO THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER, ESPECIALLY DURING, UM, THEIR NESTING SEASON, WHICH IS COMING UP HERE, UM, PRETTY SOON IN THE SPRING.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I GREW, I JUST WANT TO ECHO AND SAY THAT I AGREE WITH YOU AND IT, I THINK IT REALLY PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THAT.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT, SHE'S OFFLINE.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS APPRECIATE THIS, UM, INFORMATION THAT YOU PRESENTED THIS EVENING? UH, EVERYONE.

AND SO SEEING THERE'S NO OTHER Q AND A NEEDS, UM, SEEING IF THERE'S A MOTION BY ANY CHANCE FOR US THIS EVENING, WE DO HAVE EMOTION, BUT WAS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE SPEAKING? YES.

YOU'RE OFFLINE.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I'M SORRY.

I MOVED AT THE, A TO B A BE DENIED.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A MORE FORMAL ONE FROM OUR SECRETARY.

WAIT.

SO, UM, THEY, UH, FEBRUARY 16TH, 2022, UM, THE VIOLENT CROWN WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST NUMBER 5, 1, 1 AND 5 1, 1 2, UH, LOCATION IS AT 1 0 6, 4 9, UH, STATE HIGHWAY 71 IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

THE APPLICANT IS JIM WEIGHTLIFT, UM, LAND ANSWERS, INC.

WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT THE WA THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES EXTENSION REQUEST IS LOCATED.

AND THEN BARTON CREEK WATERSHED, BARTON SPRINGS ZONE EDWARDS, AQUIFER CONTRIBUTING ZONE, DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE, AND THE SOS ZONE.

WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT STAFF HAD COMPLETED THE REVIEW AND DOES NOT RECOMMEND THE VIOLET CROWN WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.

NUMBER 5, 1 1, 1, AND 5 1 1 2 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

THE IMPACT FROM THE PURPOSE FROM THE PROPOSED WATER AND WASTEWATER LINE WOULD REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS ACTIVELY WORKING TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY AND ENDANGERED SPECIES PROTECTION.

THEREFORE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ABOVE NOTED WATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST.

DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? SECOND, SECOND SECONDS.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH COMMISSIONER THOMPSON ON THIS ONE, LIKE A GAME SHOW.

ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL.

HERE WE GO.

COMMISSIONER YEAH, I VOTE TO NOT APPROVE COMMISSIONER SCOTT YOU'RE MUTED COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

I ABOUT, UH, AGAINST, UH, THE, UH, I VOTE FOR THE, UH, UH, PROPOSAL TO, UH, DENY, UH, THE PERMISSION COMMERCIAL THOMPSON.

I GOT TO DENY COMMISSIONER BARRETT BIXLER.

HERE'S WHAT I WROTE TO NOT RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL COMMISSIONER BRISTOL, A VOTE TO DENY COMMISSIONER HAMBURG.

I'M ABOUT TO DENY

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COMMISSIONER GUERRERO.

I VOTE TO DENY COMMISSIONER BRIMER COMMISSIONER BEDFORD.

I LO TO DENY.

ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S A UNANIMOUS, UH, 9 0 2 DENY THE S E BOTH.

BOTH OF THEM.

DID WE HAVE BOTH OF THEM IN OUR MOTION LISTED? OKAY.

JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

TAKE CARE, TAKE CARE.

COMMISSIONERS, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS, UH, URBAN

[5.a. Urban Forestry Committee –Pam Thompson, Richard Brimer, Linda Guerrero, and Rachel Scott]

FORESTRY COMMITTEE.

ANYTHING, UH, CHAIR BOMBER.

I, UH, SPOKE WITH, UH, OH, SHOOT NAMES, SPLITS MY MIND RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, AFTER THE, UH, WE GATHER MORE CITIZEN INPUT ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE, UH, ECM.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER REPORT BACK TO, UH, AS TO WHAT CHANGES, UH, THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY HAVE PROPOSED.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUTLINED TO US, UH, I GUESS, MAZE THAT'S, UH, GENTLEMAN'S NAME.

UH, WHO'S GOING TO REPORT BACK TO THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, OR URBAN FORESTRY, UH, COMMISSION TO, UH, LET US KNOW WHAT THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE THERE.

SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTED COMMITTEE.

UH, JOINT

[5.b. Report on the Joint Sustainability Committee – Audrey Barrett Bixler]

UM, NO ADDITIONAL UPDATE AT THIS TIME.

I'M STILL WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

UH, ABOUT COUNTIES CANYON LAND, NO UPDATE, MADAM TRUE.

ALRIGHT.

JOINT COMMITTEE, UH, PARKS AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

WE HAVEN'T MET, UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF COVID.

AND SO THAT'S TOO BAD.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOMETHING GOING WITH THAT SOON.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT, UH, WAS IT JUST, UH, AN ACCIDENTAL, UM, OMISSION THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, UH, THERE WAS NO REQUEST FOR AN UPDATE FROM, FROM, UH, UH, OUR, UM, OUR, UH, WORKING COMMITTEE COMMISSIONER.

UH, THIS IS KAYLA CHAMPION WATERSHED PROTECTION.

UH, WE ONLY DO STANDING UPDATES FOR REGULAR COMMITTEES AT OUR, UH, FULL-TIME COMMITTEES.

WE DON'T DO THEM FOR WORKING GROUPS.

TYPICALLY.

I, I THINK, UH, I, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER GUERRERO HAD ASKED ME IF THE, YOU KNOW, THE LAST, UH, IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT I ATTENDED.

SO I JUST, UH, I THOUGHT MAYBE THE TA AND IT HAPPENED THAT WAY, BUT, UH, WOULD I NEED TO REQUEST THAT TO BE BEYOND THE AGENDA IF I WANT TO MAKE ENOUGH? YES, MA'AM.

WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD, WE'LL BE MEETING, UH, NEXT WEEK, UH, AND OF COURSE, UH, THEY DIDN'T MEET THE PRIOR MONTH, SO, UM, HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL BE ON THERE AND REPRESENT US.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

UH, THE SOUTH CENTRAL

[5.e. Report on the South Central Waterfront Advisory Board – Linda Guerrero]

THINK ABOUT IT.

IT'S AN INTERESTING, UH, COMMISSION, UH,

[6.a. Discuss possible special-called meeting for briefings on the Watershed Protection Department and Development Services Department Budgets (5 minutes)]

FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, DISCUSS A POSSIBLE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR BRIEFINGS ON THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUDGET.

UH, PLEASE TAKE THE DOODLE POLL HALL, SORRY.

KIM CHAMPLIN WATERSHED PROTECTED.

YES, EXACTLY PLEASED.

UH, I SENT OUT A DOODLE POLL.

PLEASE TAKE IT IF YOU'RE, UH, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO ATTEND, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING A WORKING GROUP, OR I'M SORRY, A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO HEAR A JOINT BRIEFING AT ONE FROM WATERSHED PROTECTION AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON THEIR BUDGETS.

UM, OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO DO THIS BEFORE MARCH 31ST, SO THAT YOUR COMMENTS WILL BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE, THE BUDGET OFFICES, UM, PORTAL.

AND THAT WAY THAT WILL ALLOW, UM, THE BUDGET OFFICE WILL ACT AS AN INTERMEDIARY BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS TO ENSURE THAT YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR REQUESTS TO STAFF ARE, ARE FOLLOWED UP ON.

SO THE BUDGET OFFICE WILL DO THAT IF WE CAN GET THOSE COMMENTS SUBMITTED BY MARCH 31ST.

SO IF WE CAN GET A SPECIAL CALLED SESSION DONE BEFORE MARCH 31ST, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT AND WE CAN'T GET A QUORUM FOR THAT MEETING, WE CAN STILL DO THE BUDGET BRIEFINGS AT A LATER DATE.

THEY JUST WON'T GO THROUGH THAT FORMAL PROCESS.

THEY'LL HAVE TO GO DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO THIS REALLY IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE, FOR THEM TO, AGAIN, WORK WITH STAFF, TO ENSURE THAT YOUR

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COMMENTS ARE INCORPORATED IN THEIR EARLY WORK AND THE BUDGET.

AND CAITLIN, GO AHEAD AND STAY UP THERE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL QUICKLY BEFORE WE ADJOURN, IS THAT USUALLY AT OUR RETREAT, OUR ANNUAL RETREAT, WHEN THINGS WE DO COVER AS A ONE-ON-ONE ON ROBERT'S RULES, UM, LIKE TONIGHT, USUALLY YOU DO A, UM, SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

IF YOU WANT TO PUT IN SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND I HAD NOT REALLY HEARD OF AMENDING A AMENDMENT TO POSTPONE.

YOU USUALLY MAKE A REQUEST FOR A POSTPONEMENT, BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL TRY TO GET A SHINE, SHINE UP A LITTLE BIT ON THOSE ROBERT'S RULES, MAYBE SENT OUT SOMETHING AHEAD OF TIME TO SOME OF THE, UH, TO EVERYBODY, UH, IF THAT'S HELPFUL AND A LITTLE FACT SHEET OR SPREADSHEET OR WHATEVER.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A COURSE, WE DON'T, WE ALL HAVE TO TAKE THAT COURSE.

DON'T WE, WHEN WE SIGN UP AS COMMISSIONERS, YES, THEY HAVE SOMEBODY WE COULD SEND THAT LINK OUT AGAIN.

ABSOLUTELY HAPPY TO DO THAT.

AND SO, AS WE CONCLUDE THIS EVENING, HAPPY TRAILS, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, PUTTING UP WITH ME GREATLY.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND, UH, WE WILL ADJOURN AT EIGHT 20 THIS EVENING.

TAKE CARE.

BYE Y'ALL TAKE CARE.

BYE-BYE THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I'LL MISS YOU AS WELL.

I'LL MISS YOU TOO.