Feb 28, 2022 Historic Landmark

CARLA ROCHE I SAW IS HERE.

KELLY LIDDELL IS ABSENT.

COMING ON NOW, TRAIN MCWHORTER HERE THAT FELL IN SUELA OKAY.

BETH IS HERE.

UM, BLAKE TO LET AND CAROLINE RIGHT HERE.

CAROLINA'S HERE.

BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT? THIS IS CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

OH, CAN I MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE COLON USERS? UM, I'M GOING TO UNMUTE THIS IT CITY HALL, AVI.

I'M GOING TO UNMUTE EVERYONE.

IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE JUST MUTE YOURSELF AFTER I UNMUTE YOU.

AND THEN WHEN IT'S YOUR TIME TO TALK, YOU CAN UNMUTE WHEN, WHEN THE SESERI OKAY.

NINTH STREET IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

THIS IS, THIS IS AN UNUSUAL MEETING.

WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE IN PERSON TO SPEAK TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

TONIGHT.

WE ALSO HAVE, UH, PEOPLE WHO HAVE CALLED IN, UH, WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

UH, STAFF WILL CALL, UM, THE NAMES FIRST AND APPLICANT.

THEN PEOPLE IN FAVOR, THEN THE FIRST PERSON IN OPPOSITION AND THEN THE OTHER PEOPLE OPPOSED.

AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS, ITEM NUMBER ONE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UH, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.

NOW, IF YOUR ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND IT PASSES ON CONSENT, THAT MEANS YOUR APPLICATION WAS APPROVED.

AND YOU MAY LEAVE THE MEETING.

IF THERE'S SOMEONE HERE WHO HAS AN ITEM, THAT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND YOU WANT TO PULL IT FROM THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE GET MY ATTENTION.

AND WE WILL PULL THAT AND MOVE IT OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA TO THE DISCUSSION.

ANYONE IN THE COMMISSION MAY ALSO PULL IN AN ITEM OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO FIRST OFF THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 24TH, 2022 ARE OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS BEFORE US TONIGHT.

THEN WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS, A 1 15 0 5 FOREST TRAIL.

THAT'S A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT, A 2 16, 17 NEW YORK AVENUE.

THAT'S A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT, UH, TO MARCH 28TH, THE 1505 FOREST TRAIL IS, UM, IS POSTPONED UNTIL APRIL 25TH.

GOING ON TO BE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS B 1 24 0 2 SAN GABRIEL STREET.

THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM B TO 2 0 7 WAS 33RD STREET.

THAT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THAT'S A HOUSE IN ALDRIDGE PLACE.

ITEM B3, 39 0 8 AVENUE H IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM BEFORE 42 0 3 SPEEDWAY IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM B 5, 11 0 4 EAST 10TH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM B 6 4300 SPEEDWAY IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 7 15 0 2 WEST

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IT GIVES ME, UH, COMMISSIONER CHAIR.

UH, IT IS AN ERROR B 7 15 0 2 WEST NINTH STREET SHOULD BE OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

IT WAS A TYPE ERROR.

I HAD IN MY NOTES, I SAID, WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING THIS? UM, OKAY.

THAT ITEM CORRECTION 1502 WAS NINTH STREET IS NOT A DISCUSSION ITEM.

IT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM D 833 12 DUVALL STREET WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM UNDER C DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS WITHIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS ITEM C 1 8 0 4.

RUTHERFORD PLACE IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM C 2 5 12 EAST MONROE STREET.

THEY'VE ASKED FOR A POSTPONEMENT.

IT'S A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.

WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER WHO SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION OF THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT OF FIVE, 12 EAST MONROE.

SO IT SHOULD, IT WILL BE MOVED TO A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSTPONEMENT.

ISN'T SOMEONE IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION WANTS TO DISCUSS IT TONIGHT.

UM, SOMEONE IN OPPOSITION WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT TONIGHT, UM, IS THAT SPEAKER WAVING THEIR HAND IN THE BACK.

WHAT IS YOUR NAME PLEASE? OH, IT'S CLIFTON LAD.

IS THAT THE PERSON WHO HAD PULLED ANOTHER SPEAKER? OKAY.

WHO'S THE OTHER SPEAKER? PAULA KAUFMANN.

PAULA.

SO WE HAVE BOTH OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO PULL IT HAVE SAID THEY CAN WAIT.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, AND MAKE THAT, UH, CONSENT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH ON C3 THREE 20 EAST SIXTH STREET THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT C4 14, 10 ALOMEDA DRIVE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

IT HAS BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY AN OPPOSING SPEAKER.

SEE, 4 14, 10 AUTOMATED DRIVE IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM C 5 4 15 0 7.

NORTH WOOD ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

C6 1609.

WATERSTON AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

C7 TWENTY-FIVE HUNDRED HARTFORD DRIVE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

C 8 707 0 2 EAST MONROE STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THIS ITEM HAS ALSO BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY AN OPPOSING SPEAKER.

THAT ITEM IS BACK ON OUR AGENDA THEN FOR DISCUSSION ITEMS C 9 15 0 5.

ALAMEDA IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, BUT I'D LIKE TO PULL THAT ITEM.

ITEM C 10 18 0 3.

KENWOOD DRIVE WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

THE CAN'T EARLIER TODAY EMAILED, UH, IN AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT, UH, THUS MOVING IT TO CONSENT POSTPONEMENT LIST, BUT THEN WE DID HAVE AN OPPOSING SPEAKER SIGN UP.

SO IT IS NOW A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT AMENABLE TO MOVING AT? OKAY.

DID HAVE TWO SPEAKERS MR. LED AND MS. CARTMAN GUTHMAN YES.

MAYBE WE MOVE THAT TO, UH, UH, CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

POSTPONEMENT.

THAT WILL BE, UH, POSTPONE I'M SEEING A TREND HERE.

ALL THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS, 13 ITEMS SEE 11, 13, 15, AND 13, 17 NOONISH AVENUE.

THAT'S ALSO A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ALSO SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, A MR. LAD AND A MS. KAUFMAN.

ARE YOU A MINIMAL TO POSTPONING THIS TO NEXT TIME? OKAY.

THERE AMENABLE.

WE CAN MAKE THAT A CONSENT POSTPONE.

I'M GOING TO BE CONFUSED AT THE END OF THIS READING.

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SO I MAY NEED TO GET BACK UP WITH YOU.

NUMBER C 12 25 0 7.

HARTFORD ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM C 13 21 0 8.

KENWOOD AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM C 14, 200.

I KNOW FO ALONZO WAY IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

MADAM CHAIR.

I'M NOT GOING TO PULL THIS.

I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE RARE DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, PROJECTS.

I'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME FOR ONE, BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO PULL UP FOR DISCUSSION AND THE LEAST I'M VERY HAPPY THEY'RE DOING THIS ZILKER COMBAT.

YOU MAY STAND UP AND DO A LITTLE JIG, UH, THERE AT YOUR, AT YOUR VIRTUAL, UM, POSITION.

LET'S KEEP IT ON CONSENT.

THAT'S ITEM C 14.

WE'LL KEEP IT ON CONSENT.

ITEM.

C 15, 15, 10 PIECE ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

GOING ON TO D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION NUMBER D 1, 1 0 2 EAST 42ND STREET IS A CONSECUTIVE.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOMEONE SPEAK, UH, REGISTERING TO SPEAK.

SO IT WILL BE, UH, A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE POSTPONEMENT OF THIS ITEM.

THERE ARE NO LONGER IN CONSENT.

KEEP TRACK OF THAT ONE FOR ME.

OKAY, AMBER.

ITEM D TWO, THREE, A ONE WITH SIXTH STREET.

THERE'LL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM D 3, 4, 10 EAST FIFTH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM D 4 19 0 6.

WILLOW STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM D 5 68 0 1.

BURNET ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE, THERE ARE PICTURES ON OUR WEBSITE SHOWING THIS PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN DOWN.

IS THERE WITHOUT IT, WITHOUT APPROVAL, WITHOUT APPROVAL WITH THE STAFF.

SO SPEAK TO THAT.

WHAT WAS THE, THE STAFF IS AWARE OF THIS, UH, DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY THEY DID.

SO WITHOUT A DEMOLITION PERMIT AND WE HAVE URGED, UH, PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTACTED US TO CONTACT 3, 1, 1, UM, AND THERE IS A CODE ENFORCER ON, UM, THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW.

SO THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED.

THE BUILDING IS GONE, KIM, IS IT, SHOULD WE, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO, TO ISSUE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT AT THIS TIME? I MEAN, IF THEY, I DON'T WANT THAT.

I THINK IT'S WRONG TO EVADE THE PROCESS AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT THAT IT COULD BE THAT HARD TO WAIT A COUPLE OF DAYS.

UH, I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO SEE US ISSUE NECESSARILY ISSUE A DEMOLITION PERMIT AND THEN HAVE THEM SAY, WELL, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A PERMIT RIGHT THERE, BUT IT'S OFF YOUR MIC NEEDS TO BE TURNED ON.

MS. BURNETT.

UM, CERTAINLY STAFF CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE CODE DEPARTMENT TO FOLLOW THE OUTCOME OF THE CASE AND, UH, THE COMMISSION SHOULD VOTE, UH, TONIGHT BASED ON HOW YOU WOULD HAVE DECIDED THE CASE REGARDLESS.

UM, WHETHER THIS PROPERTY MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION OR A DEMOTION PERMIT, UH, RELEASE IS APPROPRIATE.

AND, UH, IF YOU WISH TO DO SO WITH SOME DIRECTION TO STAFF TO, UM, ENSURE THAT THE CODE CASE IS RESOLVED PRIOR TO RELEASE OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, I BELIEVE YOU COULD DO SO.

AND STILL KEEP THAT ON CONSENT.

I WOULD MAKE THAT REQUEST OF STAFF THAT THEY, THEY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH CODE DEPARTMENT ON THIS, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND DO NOT RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UNTIL THAT'S CLEARED UP ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, DO WE NEED TO LEAVE THIS ON OUR AGENDA ITEM TO MAKE THAT, UM, TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO STAFF AND TO CODE COMPLIANCE, UNLESS THERE IS A NEED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE ADD ITEM.

I BELIEVE THAT THAT DIRECTION COULD BE PART OF PASSAGE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND I'M CHAIR, COULD I, COULD I ADD ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM, WHICH IS TO REQUEST, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, IT DOESN'T NEED TO AFFECT THE VOTE, BUT JUST TO REQUEST A UPDATE FROM STAFF, UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS.

VALANZUELA, I BELIEVE IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE SIGN BE PRESERVED OR BE CONSIDERED.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER

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UH, I WOULD PREFER TO DISCUSS THIS CASE AND NOT JUST SEND IT ALONG AND CONSENT.

THEN YOU PULLED THE ITEM.

WE'RE GOING TO JUST, THIS IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

GRIT.

THANK YOU TO YOUR MYERS.

THE CONSENT ITEMS, PLEASE READ OFF THE CENTER ITEMS. ALL RIGHT.

GOING ON? SO THAT ITEM 68 0 1 BURNETT ROAD, UM, WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

D 6 20 12 EAST 16TH STREET IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

D 7 14 0 3 EAST CESAR CHAVEZ WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

D 8 19 0 8 EAST 17TH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THAT'S THE END OF OUR, UM, OF OUR PUBLIC, UM, HEARINGS ON APPLICATIONS.

UH, THEN ITEM E IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.

HOW ABOUT JUST DEMOLITION? UM, F IS POSSIBLE ACTION ON TAX ABATEMENT, G DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR PARTIAL EXEMPTION AND THEN COMMISSION AND STAFF ITEMS. OKAY.

NOW WHAT'D YOU LIKE ME TO READ OFF

[Consent Agenda]

FOR ITEMS FOR CONSENT.

IT IS THE JANUARY 24TH HLC MEETING MINUTES.

ITEM B TO 2 0 7 WEST 33RD STREET BEFORE 4,203 SPEEDWAY B 5, 11 0 4 EAST 10TH STREET, B SIXTH 4,300 SPEEDWAY, B 7 15 0 2 WEST NINTH STREET, C3 THREE 20 EAST SIXTH STREET, C5, 1507 NORTHWOOD ROAD, C6 1609 WATERSTON AVENUE, C SEVEN TWENTY-FIVE HUNDRED HARTFORD ROAD, C 12 25 0 7 HARTFORD ROAD, C 14, 200 OR NO FLOW ALONG THE WAY.

C 15, 15, 10 P'S ROAD, D 3, 4 10 EAST FIFTH STREET, D 4 19 0 6 WILLIAM STREET AND D 8, 18, 19 0 8 EAST SEVENTH 17TH STREET.

UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHICH ONES? WHICH OF THESE ARE GOING TO DISCUSSION? C 1 8 0 4? YEAH.

SO THAT'S GOING.

SO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS ARE B ONE, B3, B EIGHT C ONE.

WAIT, WHAT HAPPENED TO BE SEVEN B SEVEN.

THERE WAS A TYPING ERROR.

IT SHOULDN'T BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

B EIGHT C ONE C TWO C FOUR, C EIGHT, C NINE D TWO D FIVE D SIX D SEVEN.

THOSE ARE THE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION.

DID YOU SAY YOU SEE 10, 18 0 3 KENWOOD AVENUE.

THAT WAS MOST TO CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

UH, COMMISSIONER HAMZA, COMMISSIONER HOMESNAP.

WHEN YOU WERE READING LIST, I THINK YOU SKIPPED TO SEE 13 2108 KENWOOD AVENUE THAT HAS NO, IT WASN'T PULLED.

I DON'T THINK THAT WAS PULLED BY ANYONE.

IT WAS A CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADU.

I THOUGHT SHE READ IT.

I DID.

OH, C 13 HAS BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.

SO C 13 IS ON.

WITH THOSE CLARIFICATIONS, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOVE.

I HAD A THAT'S A DISCUSSION.

UH, THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER COOK.

WHO SECONDED IT? COMMISSIONER LAROCHE SECONDED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA.

PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AND RAISE YOUR HAND.

HI.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THEN WE GO ON TO CONSENT.

POSTPONEMENT.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THE ITEMS? PLEASE DO THAT.

SO FOR CONSENT POSTPONEMENT, POSTPONEMENT,

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WE HAVE ITEMS, A ONE, A TWO C, TWO, C, 10, C, 11.

THAT'S IT.

WHAT ABOUT ? IT IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

SO THOSE EYES IN STORE C2, CURLS OR CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS.

SO ALL OF THESE ARE, UM, ARE GOING TO BE POSTPONED.

IF THE MOTION PASSES.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE, ON THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT AGENDA, MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT AGENDA.

OH SECOND.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COOK.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AND RAISE YOUR HAND.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT AGENDA HAS PASSED.

DON'T DISCUSSION.

POSTPONEMENT IS THE NEXT.

NOW WHAT DO WE HAVE ON DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT? THE ITEM WE HAVE IS ITEM D 1, 1 0 2 EAST 46TH STREET.

UH, THE APPLICANTS HAVE, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

UM, WELL WHO, UH, WHO, WHO WAS IT THAT CONSENTED TO THAT POSTPONEMENT? USUALLY AT CONSENT POSTPONEMENT IS IT'S WITH THE CONSENT OF THE APPLICANT STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED POST.

SO, UH, WE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE IS DISCUSSED WHETHER TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM.

STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THIS ITEM BE POSTPONE.

DO WE NEED TO HEAR THIS CASE RIGHT NOW? KALYN CONTRARAS SHOULD BE, UM, PRESENTING THIS CASE.

AND IS KALIN NOT HERE YET? OH, SHE'S HERE VIRTUALLY.

SHE'S ON VIRTUALLY A CALLAN.

HELLO EVERYONE.

HI.

ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

I HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER.

UH, HI, I'M SETH.

LET'S CLARIFY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS GOING TO BE A POSTPONEMENT.

THERE SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE A POSTPONEMENT, NOT TO HEAR THE CASE OUT OF ORDER, IF THAT'S ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO WE SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT THE CASE.

WE SHOULD JUST BE TALKING ABOUT WHY WE ARE TALKING, WHY A POSTPONEMENT WAS RECOMMENDED, AND THEN IF ANY SPEAKERS WANTED TO TALK ABOUT FOR OR AGAINST, AND THEN WE MAKE A DECISION.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU FOR THE THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION I WANTED.

UM, I WANTED TO GIVE THE STAFF A CHANCE TO SAY WHY THEY RECOMMEND THOSE OR WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS.

THEY, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER MYERS, I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW STAFF MEMBER, A LITTLE AWKWARD TIMING, BUT, UH, KIMBERLY COLLINS IS JOINING US HERE, UM, IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, UH, AS A CASE MANAGER.

AND WHILE I'LL BE PRESENTING HER CASES TONIGHT, BECAUSE THIS IS HER FIRST MEETING, I, AND IT'S A LONG AGENDA.

UM, THIS IS A CASE FOR WHICH SHE HAD, UH, WRITTEN THE STAFF REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION.

SO I'LL NEED TO DEFER TO HER, UM, TO DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THE CASE AND THE REASON BEHIND THE POST.

AND SHE'S NOT WITH US.

SO IT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

IT'S IT'S ON HERE.

IT SAYS CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

USUALLY THAT MEANS IT'S WITH THE APPLICANT'S CONSENT, BUT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO POSTPONE.

UM, SO THAT'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND WE CAN DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT TO POSTPONE THAT OR TO HEAR IT TONIGHT.

NOW WE DO HAVE APPLICANTS APPARENTLY, UH, UH, HERE WHO WISH TO SPEAK.

YES, THEY ARE HERE AND THEY WISH TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM.

NOW I SEE YOU.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, WAS WRITTEN.

SO I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION.

THIS IS NOT, UH, THERE WAS NOT APPLICANT CONSENT.

UH, THIS WAS STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO, UM, TO POSTPONE, UM, AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UM, ON MARCH 14TH.

SO THAT IS HOW THE

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AND THAT'S HOW THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, CONSENTED.

SO I WOULD, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST PUTTING THIS ON FOR DISCUSSION AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE DISCUSSION.

AND THEN WE CAN ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR COMMISSIONER HAIM SET.

DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT TO YOU? UH, IF WE WANTED TO MAKE A VOTE, WE COULD, BUT, UH, IT'S NOT NECESSARY IF, IF IT'S JUST ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE PULLING IT, UH, FOR DISCUSSION AND THE STAFF IS READY TO DO THE, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE.

THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE READY TO DISCUSS THE CASE WHEN IT COMES UP ON THE, IN ITS PLACE ON THE AGENDA.

IT WAS JUST, UH, I THINK A LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING IN WHAT, UH, CONSENT POSTPONEMENT, UM, MATT AS A RECOMMENDATION.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE WON'T POSTPONE IT AND THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA AS, UH, AS OPPOSED TO THAT.

THEN THAT ITEM WILL BE A CONSENT.

I MEAN, A DISCUSSION ON, OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD TO TAKE THE AGENDA IN ORDER NOW.

OH.

ALSO KNOW IF YOUR ITEM PASSED ON A CONSENT, YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE.

SO FOR EVERYONE ELSE, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA IN THE ORDER THAT IT, UM, THAT IT, THAT YOU SEE IT ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT FOR THE, UH, CASES THAT PASSED ON CONSENT OR CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

WE DO HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE HAVE B OH, ACTUALLY

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

I APOLOGIZE.

ARE THEY HERE? UM, WE HAVE AN EDWIN BOUTS ABOUT STA EDWIN.

ARE YOU HERE? DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT? NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A MISTAKE.

NEXT IS A MR. CLIFTON LAD.

MR. LAD, YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

THEN COME ON DOWN.

AND WHO IS THE THIRD PERSON? A SUSAN ARMSTRONG FISHER.

MS. ARMSTRONG FISHER.

THEN YOU'LL BE NEXT.

AND THEN WE'LL GO ON TO THE AGENDA.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

CAN I TAKE OFF MY MASK? IT MIGHT.

NO, NO MASK IS REQUIRED INSIDE CITY.

IT ANSWERS.

MY NAME IS CLIFTON LAB.

AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I'M A RESIDENT OF THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PART NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION OF MULTIPLE HOMES IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALL OF WHICH ARE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES TO THE THEY'RE ALL ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT ARE GLOBAL.

THIS IS A GLOBAL.

IS ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR A HISTORIC APPRAISAL FOR THE HOME RESULTING IN LOWER PROPERTY TAXES.

UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A STATEMENT REGARDING PRESERVATION AND DEMOLITION THAT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS REPRESENTING ABOUT 5,000 HOUSEHOLDS IN WHICH WE STATED QUOTE, WE AGREE WITH IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN, WHICH ADVISES THAT COMPREHENSIVE, URBAN PLANNING AND DESIGN SHOULD PROTECT HISTORIC AREAS AND MAINTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.

I'M SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER AND AS A CONCERNED RESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, I'M HERE TO HELP TO ASK YOU TO HELP MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE FACING AN ONSLAUGHT OF DEMOLITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE ASKED FOR YOUR HELP MEMBERS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE ARE VERY WATCHFUL FOR PROPOSED DEMOLITION, BUT WE OFTEN DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.

NOTIFICATIONS COME BY MAIL, BUT OFTEN ARRIVE ONE OR TWO DAYS BEFORE THE COMMISSION MEETING.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO PREPARE FOR THE MEETING.

WE DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT UNTIL THERE'S A HOUSE DESIGNED, REPLACING THE VALUABLE HISTORIC HOME.

WE WISH THAT YOU WOULD NOTIFY US BY EMAIL FOR THE MEETINGS AND THAT EMAIL COULD INCLUDE THE BACKUP MATERIALS SO THAT WE CAN GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S PROPOSED.

I WOULD LIKE TO COME IN ON SOME CASES, UM, FROM A FEW YEARS AGO, FOR YOUR BENEFIT, AND FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE SEEKING TO DEMOLISH ONE OF THE HISTORICAL HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD A FEW YEARS AGO, THREE HOUSES IN THE 500 BLOCK OF EAST ROAD WERE ALL ACQUIRED BY THE SAME INDIVIDUAL WHO SOUGHT DEMOLITION PERMITS FOR ALL THREE AND PLAN TO BUILD NEW HOUSES.

WE WERE ABLE PERSUADE THE DEVELOPER TO KEEP THE HOUSE AT THE CORNER OF EAST MONROE AND NOONAN, AND TO RESTORE IT.

HE LATER THANKED ME AND COMMENTED THAT THE HOUSE WAS MORE PROFITABLE THAN THE OTHER TWO, THAT BEAUTIFUL HOME IS NOW A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND IT IS A FIVE-STAR GREEN ENERGY HOME.

THE CURRENT OWNER

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ONE OF THE REASONS THE HOME AT NOONAN AND MONROE WAS PROTECTED BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT BY A GENTLEMAN NAMED FRED MALONE WHO WAS CITY CLERK AT THE TIME.

HE ALSO BUILT THE HOME AT FIVE 12 EAST MONROE, WHICH IS NOW BEING PROPOSED FOR DEMOLITION.

SO IN CLOSING TO ANYONE HERE TONIGHT WHO IS THINKING OF DEMOLISHING ONE OF THE OLD HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE MEMBERS OF THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS PRESERVATION COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH YOU AND OFFER ASSISTANCE IN PRESERVING YOUR HOME.

AND JUST ONE FINAL NOTE, ONE OF THE APPLICANTS DID TALK WITH ME JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

I GUESS I THINK THAT EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION WOULD JOIN ME IN URGING YOU TO SEEK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT STATUS.

WE KNOW HOW DIFFICULT THAT IS, BUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE SURVEY THAT WAS USED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DESIGNATION.

ALL OF THOSE MATERIALS ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU AND, AND THAT SHOULD BE, UM, THE CITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THOSE, UM, ASSESSMENTS.

UM, THE HARD PART IS GETTING OWNER SIGN-ON.

UM, AND, UH, THAT'S, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN MEET, WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE DIRECTION, WE CAN HOLD PUBLIC MEETINGS.

WE CAN HELP YOU IN, IN THAT WAY, BUT THAT ACTUAL LEGWORK HAS TO BE DONE BY Y'ALL.

AND I'M, I'M SORRY TO TELL YOU THAT.

AND I'M SORRY TO SEE SO MANY, UM, SO MANY PROJECTS COME UP FOR DEMOLITION IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

SO SOON AFTER THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT PASSED.

WELL, I THINK WE'RE GEARING UP FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR ENCOURAGEMENT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT AND WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT, SO THANK YOU, JERRY.

AND, UM, MS. FISHER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING.

I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF.

MY NAME IS SUSAN ARMSTRONG FISHER.

I'M A 24 YEAR RESIDENT OF AUSTIN, SEVEN YEARS IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT HOW WE'RE RECEIVING THE NOTIFICATIONS FOR THESE TYPE OF DEMOLITIONS.

UM, I LIVE IN A PART OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS THAT OUR MAIL IS REGULARLY STOLEN AND WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF DOCUMENT, UM, I DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION FOR THE DEMOLITIONS UNTIL VERY LATE WORD OF MOUTH, UH, COMMITTEE TYPE STYLE.

SO WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THAT, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE 21ST CENTURY, AS WE'RE MUCH MORE DIGITAL NOW THAN WE USED TO BE.

AND ON THAT NOTE, UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK ON THE, UH, LANDMARK COMMISSIONS WEBSITE ON THE HOMEPAGE, UM, AND CHECK IT REGULARLY TO SEE IF SOMETHING IS COMING UP.

UNDERSTAND.

OUR FIRST ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM B 1 24 0 2 SAN GABRIEL STREET.

NOW, UM, MOVING ALONG TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE

[3.B.1. HR-2021-202819 – 2402 San Gabriel St. – Discussion (postponed January 24, 2022)]

DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY THAT ONCE REGISTERED YOU RECEIVED THOSE NOTIFICATIONS OR DID I MISS? I, I BELIEVE THAT IT IS AN EMAIL NOTIFICATION THAT DEMOLITION PERMIT REQUESTS HAS BEEN FILED, SO THAT, THAT IS DIFFERENT.

THIS IS ELIZABETH BRAHMA WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.

I FIRST WANTED TO, UH, RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS, UM, THAT WE RECEIVED FROM, FROM THE NEIGHBORS IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

UM, AND LET OTHER FOLKS IN THE ROOM KNOW THAT THERE IS A, AN ELECTRONIC DEMOLITION NOTIFICATION TOOL, UM, TO REGISTER FOR IT.

YOU CAN GO TO AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV/A DEMOLITION AND SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE.

IT WILL HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW TO REGISTER FOR THAT TOOL.

UM, AND SO THAT, THAT IS, UM, I BELIEVE THE NOTIFICATIONS FOR THAT OCCUR WHEN THE CITY RECEIVES A DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICATION.

SO BEFORE STAFF HAS EVEN NECESSARILY, UM, LOOKED AT THAT AND DETERMINED WHETHER IT NEEDS TO COME TO THE COMMISSION, UH, THERE WAS A NOTIFICATION THAT GOES OUT, UH, THE OTHER NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE DO, THE MAIL NOTIFICATION AND THE SIGNPOSTING, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE ARE DICTATED BY CITY CODE.

SO THAT IS, UM, WE, WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS KNEW THAT THERE IS THIS EXTRA TOOL, UM, THAT CAN ALLOW YOU TO RECEIVE ELECTRONIC NOTIFICATION OF DEMOLITION REQUESTS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, I, I GUESS, UM, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF SAD.

PEOPLE HAVE TO BE EVER VIGILANT, ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND, UM, OLD WEST AUSTIN THAT ARE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS, BUT NOT, UM, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

UM, WE URGE YOU AGAIN, GO FOR LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT STATUS.

MS. .

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THE NOTICES WE SEND OUR NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING.

YEP.

AND SO OF COURSE WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THOSE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE.

CURRENTLY USED TO SEEING IT.

UM, ARE YOU GOING TO PRESENT YES.

UH, CHANGING GEARS.

SO, UM, THIS IS THE STAFF PRESENTATION FOR THE REVEREND JACOB FONTANE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDING AT 24 0 2 SAN GABRIEL STREET.

UH, THIS IS A CIRCUIT 1869 STONE BUILDING, UM, THAT HAS A, UM, SECOND FLOOR BALCONY THAT WAS ADDED AROUND 1923 AND A CIRCLE 1942 ENCLOSURE.

SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO, THIS IS A REVISION FROM WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED.

WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING TO DO IS TO OPEN THAT SECOND FLOOR BALCONY, UM, TO RESTORE IT TO A CIRCUIT 1923 APPEARANCE.

ACTUALLY, IF WE CAN STAY ON THAT FIRST IMAGE, UM, I'LL GIVE SOME HISTORICAL BACKGROUND AND THEN I'LL START TALKING ABOUT KIND OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF DOCUMENTATION OF THIS PROPERTY.

UH, SO THE REVEREND JACOB FONTANNE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDING IS A HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC BUILDING.

IT'S THE SOLE REMAINING BUILDING OF WEEKSVILLE, UH, WHICH WAS A FREEDOM COLONY, UH, IN 2018.

THE BUILDING WAS RENAMED FROM THE FRAN STUDY STORE TO THE REVEREND JACOB FONTANE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDING TO RECOGNIZE THIS EARLIER SIGNIFICANCE IN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY.

REVEREND FONTAINE ESTABLISHED SEVERAL BAPTIST CHURCHES WAS AN EDUCATOR, WAS POLITICALLY ACTIVE AND PUBLISHED THE GOLD DOLLAR AND EARLY BLACK NEWSPAPER.

AND THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY ITALIAN IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, INCLUDING THE FRIENDS STUDIES OPERATED A NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY STORE FROM THE BUILDING.

THE PRINCE SAID HE'S MADE MULTIPLE ADDITIONS AND MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING.

UH, THE SECOND FLOOR PORCH IS THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN ADDED IN 1923.

I FIND THAT DATE AND MULTIPLE PLACES IN OUR FILES FOR THIS PROPERTY UP IN NO ATTRIBUTION IN TERMS OF WHERE THAT DATA CAME FROM.

I'LL MENTIONED THAT THE 1922 SANBORN FIRE INSURANCE MAP, UM, WHICH IS THE FIRST MAP THAT SHOWS THIS PART OF AUSTIN, UH, SHOWS A ONE STORY PORCH, NOT A TWO STORY PORCH BY THE 1935 MAP IT'S SHOWN AS A TWO-STORY PORCH.

SO, MATT, UM, LET ME INTERRUPT YOU JUST A SECOND.

I JUST WANTED TO TELL THE, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THIS IMAGE THAT WE'RE SEEING BEFORE US IS A 1942 ARTIST LITHOGRAPH OF THE BUILDING.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS BUILT IN 1942, BUT IT WAS THERE BY 1942, APPARENTLY ALL FOR THE ART ARTISTS, RIGHT? AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE EARLIEST DEPICTION, UM, THAT STAFF OR A CHAIR MYERS WERE ABLE TO FIND, UM, OF THE BUILDING, UH, BEYOND THE MAPS.

UM, SO BY 1942, SOMETIME BETWEEN CIRCA 1923 AND 1942, THIS UPPER LEVEL OF THE BALCONY HAS BEEN ENCLOSED.

UM, IT'S UNKNOWN WHEN STUCCO WAS APPLIED TO THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.

UM, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO TELL FROM THIS ARTIST RENDERING, IF IT, IF IT HAS BEEN STUCK OUT AT THIS TIME OR NOT, UH, THERE'S JUST A GENERAL DEPICTION OF TEXTURE.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME AS HAVING A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE BUILDING.

SO IF WE CAN ADVANCE TO THE NEXT IMAGE, UH, THE EARLIEST PHOTOGRAPH I WAS ABLE TO FIND, UH, FROM THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER IS THIS ONE DATED 1964, UH, WHERE THE GROUND FLOOR AND THE COLUMNS HAPPENED STUCCOED BY THAT TIME.

UM, SO THE APPLICANT'S ORIGINAL SUBMISSION FOR THIS PROJECT PROPOSED REMOVING THAT BALCONY STRUCTURE AND ITS ENTIRETY, UH, NOT JUST THE ENCLOSURE, BUT ALSO THE ROOF, UH, AND INSTALLING A NEW RAILING.

UH, THIS APPROACH WOULD NOT MEET THE STANDARDS FOR RESTORATION BECAUSE IT POTENTIALLY WOULD MIX ELEMENTS FROM DIFFERENT PERIODS OR CONSTRUCT A DESIGN THAT MAY NEVER HAVE EXISTED HISTORICALLY.

UM, WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION OF THIS BUILDING TO SUPPORT GOING BACK TO, UH, THAT EARLY, UH, PERIOD.

UM, IT WAS CONTEMPLATED IN, UM, WITH THE 1977 LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

IF YOU'LL SCROLL DOWN A COUPLE MORE IMAGES, UM, THERE WAS AN ARTIST RENDERING IN THAT FILE.

SO IT WAS IT, AT SOME POINT IT WAS CLEARLY CONTEMPLATED TAKING IT BACK TO, UM, POTENTIALLY A 19TH CENTURY APPEARANCE AS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE TIME IT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH REVEREND FONTANE.

UM, BUT IT W IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO MEET THE STANDARDS FOR RESTORATION, WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS, AND THE LIMITED DOCUMENTATION WE HAVE OF THE EVOLUTION OF THE BUILDING OVER TIME.

IT ALSO WOULD VERY REMARKABLY CHANGE THE BUILDING FROM THE WAY THAT PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE

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UM, SO STAFF VISITED THE SITE ALONG WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER COOK AND CHAIR MYERS ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, UM, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE BALCONY STRUCTURE.

SO IF WE CAN SCROLL DOWN FURTHER, UM, W MY GOAL IN TERMS OF THOSE SITE VISITS WAS TO SEE IF THERE WAS POTENTIALLY A COMPROMISE SOLUTION THAT COULD MEET SOME OF THE APPLICANTS GOALS FOR THE PROJECT WHILE STILL MAINTAINING MORE OF THE HISTORIC FABRIC OF THE BUILDING.

UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THIS IMAGE IS A CHAMFERED WOOD POST AT THE CORNER OF THAT BALCONY ENCLOSURE.

UH, IF YOU'LL SCROLL DOWN FURTHER, SO LIKE KEEP GOING QUITE A FEW IMAGES.

I WANT TO GET TO SOME OF THE INTERIOR SHOTS FOR THE BALCONY.

IT HAD A BEAD BOARD FINISH.

AND SO, UM, WE GAVE VERBAL APPROVAL TO THE APPLICANT TO GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT WAS CLEARLY A NON HISTORIC ALTERATION TO THE SPACE AND WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE UNDERNEATH.

I FEEL THE ANTS AGAIN, AMBER, KEEP GOING A BIT FURTHER.

UH, THIS IS HOW IT APPEARS WITH THE BEAD BOARD REMOVED.

UM, WHAT'S REALLY STRIKING IS THAT THERE ARE CLEARLY, UM, TWO DIFFERENT AREAS OF, UH, HISTORIC FABRIC THAT'S PRESENT HERE.

UH, THERE ARE THE, UH, THE CHAMFERED COLUMNS, THE, UH, BEAMS AND RAFTERS, UH, THE PURLINS AND THE DECKING OF THE ROOF ARE ALL PAINTED THIS, A BLUE, GRAY COLOR.

IF YOU'LL SCROLL DOWN ONE MORE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE FRAME FOR THE WINDOW THAT IS MISSING.

UM, AND THE MASONRY WALL HAS THAT SAME COLOR PAINT.

UM, SO IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT THERE WAS A PERIOD IN TIME WHERE THE BALCONY WAS OPEN AIR AND ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS WERE PAINTED THE SAME COLOR, UH, THE WINDOWS AND THE SIDING APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN ADDED AT THE SAME TIME, UH, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT THE WINDOWS SLIDE UP INTO THE WALL BEHIND THE SIDING.

AND THERE ARE NO DRAIN HOLES AT THE BASE OF THAT LOWER-LEVEL VERTICAL SIDING, UM, AS IT WOULD BE IF IT HAD BEEN PARTIALLY ENCLOSED AT THAT TIME.

UM, SO THE CHANGES TO THE BALCONY ARE CLEAR BASED ON, UM, THIS PHYSICAL EVIDENCE THAT, UH, THE BALCONY WAS ADDED TO A ONE-STORY PORCH BETWEEN 1922 AND 1935, THAT IT CONSISTED OF AN OPEN AIR STRUCTURE WITH TAMPERED COLUMNS AND IT EXPOSED ROOF.

UM, AND THE SIDING AND WINDOWS WERE ADDED BY 1942.

UM, THE ELEMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON AT THIS JUNCTURE IS A RAILING THAT WOULD HAVE APPEARED AT THAT TIME.

UM, THERE'S A BACKER BOARD THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THAT LOWER LEVEL THAT BLOCKS THE CORNERS OF THOSE, THE EDGES OF THOSE COLUMNS, WHERE THE RAILING WOULD HAVE ATTACHED AND WHERE WE MIGHT SEE SOME GHOSTING OR SOME INDICATION OF WHAT RAILING EXISTED WHEN THIS WAS OPEN AIR.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT.

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

UM, THERE WAS A VERY IN-DEPTH, UM, WEBSITE POST THE, PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP FROM, UH, DR.

TARA DUDLEY AND OTHER SCHOLARS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

UH, THERE ALSO WAS A KUT PIECE ON THIS.

SO I, I KNOW THAT THERE A LOT OF INTEREST, UM, WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MORE BROADLY WITHIN AUSTIN AND THIS BUILDING AND ITS IMPORTANCE AS THE SOLE REMAINING BUILDING OF THAT FREEDOM COLONY.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE VERY MEASURED IN HOW I PRESENT, UH, THE SAFRA COMMENDATIONS.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE COMMISSION TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER REMOVAL OF THESE CIRCA 1942 OR SLIGHTLY EARLY OR EARLIER ELEMENTS IS APPROPRIATE.

AND IF IT IS TO APPROVE THE REVISED DRAWINGS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PUT FORWARD, UH, AUTHORIZING STAFF TO APPROVE A FINAL RAILING DESIGN AFTER ADDITIONAL DEMOLITION HAS OCCURRED, AND STAFF CAN OBSERVE, UH, WHAT THAT RAILING DESIGN SHOULD BE BASED ON PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

AFRICAN-AMERICAN NEWSPAPER.

I WOULD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD ONE THING ON, I, I DIDN'T, UM, GET THE BACKUP, UH, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO READ THE BACKUP, UH, CLEARLY THROUGH THIS, BUT I KNOW THAT REVEREND FONTANE ESTABLISHED, FOUNDED 12 BAPTIST CHURCHES IN THIS AREA.

UM, AND, AND HIS, HIS INFLUENCE WAS CONSIDERABLE.

UM, IT BEYOND JUST A, SEVERAL OR A COUPLE, IT WAS, IT WAS AT LEAST 12 CHURCHES.

UM, AND, AND THE GOLD DOLLAR, UH, WAS, UH, UH, SIGNIFICANT, UM,

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SOME, UH, THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS ARE LARGELY WITH REVEREND FONTANE AND HIS TENURE IN THE BUILDING.

DO WE HAVE AN APP? UH, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS, PLEASE, SIR.

COME DOWN, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

HAVE WE GONE? ARE WE BACK TO FIVE MINUTES FOR THE INITIAL PRESENTATION? OKAY.

GET THIS TO HAPPEN, UH, NOT ONLY IS IT MORE INVITING FOR THE BUSINESS, MORE INVITING FOR THE BUILDING, UM, BUT IT'S A NATURAL FLOW, RIGHT? AS A NEW SPACE.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES.

COOL.

MY NAME IS ISAAC .

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT B ONE TO 2,402 SAN GABRIEL STREET PROJECT IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL TO REMOVE THE 1942 ENCLOSURE AND RETURN THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONY TO ITS 1923 APPEARANCE.

UH, BEFORE I GET STARTED, UM, ELIZABETH, I WAS CURIOUS, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT UP ON THE SCREEN? UM, THE NEW ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS.

COOL.

I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT PLACE TO START UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF WE SCROLL DOWN ON THE, UH, CORRECT.

UH, I THINK THE LAST TWO ARE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND THEN WE CAN WORK, I GUESS, PAGES SEVEN, EIGHT, AND THEN NINE AND 10.

PERFECT.

YEAH, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A NATURAL FLOW OF, OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UH, WE ALL SAW PICTURES.

UM, THIS IS AN ARCHITECT'S RENDERING OF, OF OBVIOUSLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.

UM, AND PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING THIS BACK TO A 1923 APPEARANCE, WE'RE NOT TRYING NECESSARILY TO RECREATE SOMETHING NEW, UH, WE'D BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT IS THAT LESS ABOUT, UH, BRINGING SOMETHING NEW AND MORE BRINGING IT BACK TO AN EARLIER DATE AGAIN IN 1923 APPEARANCE? SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW, WE ALL SAW IN THE ROOM, UH, THE PICTURES OF IT'S EXTERIOR AND IT'S INTERIOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND TRANSITIONING, UH, TO, I THINK IT'S THE NINTH SLIDE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE ON TO BRING THIS IDEA TO LIFE.

IT'S ONE THING JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN WE CAN SHOW YOU GUYS.

AND SO AGAIN, NOT CREATING SOMETHING NEW, BUT REMOVING SOME OF THE WALLS, UH, THREE WALLS SPECIFICALLY, UH, SO WE CAN ALLOW AIR TO FLOW SO WE CAN CREATE A MORE INVITING APPEARANCE, UM, NOT ONLY TO THE BUILDING AND ITS HISTORY, BUT ALSO TO OUR BUSINESS, UH, THAT WILL SOON INHABIT IT.

I DO THINK IT MAKES A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR BUSINESS AND A SMALL SNIPPET, JUST SO YOU GUYS CAN GET AN IDEA OF ANOTHER LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO WHAT WE PLAN TO DO AS A BUSINESS.

AND THEN I CAN TRANSITION BACK, UM, TO WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED, BUT, UH, WE ARE THE COLDER AND COFFEE.

WE ARE A COFFEE BAR CONCEPT.

WE ARE LOCALLY OWNED, LATINO OWNED, MILLENNIAL OWNED, AND WE ARE A STARTUP.

THIS IS OUR FIRST, UH, COFFEE SHOP.

UH, WE ARE NOT A BIG CHAIN.

I'M NOT FROM OUT OF TOWN OR OUT OF STATE.

I WAS BORN IN HOUSTON, GREW UP IN ROUND ROCK AND AUSTIN, I'M PROUD TO BE ABLE TO START A BUSINESS, UH, WITH ITS MISSION, UM, WHERE WE INTRODUCE A CREATIVE SPACE THAT FOSTERS COMMUNITY.

AND THEN WE CONNECT THAT COMMUNITY IN MEANINGFUL AND LOVING WAYS.

THAT'S OUR REASON TO EXIST.

AND WE PLAN TO DO THAT HERE IN THIS BUILDING, UM, PART OF OUR MISSION AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO AROUND THIS COFFEE BAR CONCEPT, IT'S CALLED THE COLTRANE IS TO CONNECT PEOPLE, RIGHT? AND PART OF THE, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, PART OF THE CURRENT PROBLEM WITH ITS CURRENT STRUCTURE IS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN WRITING.

AND I KNOW, UM, I WOULD SAY ALMOST FACTUALLY THAT THE PRIOR BUSINESS, WHICH WAS THERE FOR ROUGHLY SEVEN YEARS, THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY USE IT AT LEAST IN CITY OR, OR CODE TERMS, UM, AS ANYTHING BUT STORAGE, UM, THE ENTIRE SECOND FLOOR, NOT JUST THAT STRUCTURE.

I CAN SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE WE JUST GOT, UM, HIT WITH PROBABLY SOME OF THE WORST NEWS OF OUR BUILD-OUT PHASE IS THAT WE WILL NEED A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, UM, IN THE UPSTAIRS AND DOWNSTAIRS.

SO WHAT IT TELLS ME IS THAT SINCE THE BUILDING HAS NEVER HAD A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, THERE'S NO WAY TO PRIOR BUSINESS WITH COMPLIANT FROM A FIRE CODE PERSPECTIVE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, OR THE UPSTAIRS WASN'T NECESSARILY A PLACE FOR PATRONS OR PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY WENT TO GO, UM, EAT OR DRINK.

IT WAS REALLY AGAIN, STORAGE.

UH, WE HAVE TO INCUR THAT COST, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY UNEXPECTED.

SO WHEN WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT COST ON, IF THAT MEANS WE CAN LIVELY UP THE BUILDING, INCREASED ITS USE AND BRING PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY INTO THE BUILDING, NOT JUST THE FIRST FLOOR AND NOT JUST OUR PATIO, BUT THE WHOLE BUILDING UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS.

AND THE HOPE IS THAT IF WE CAN

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UM, EVEN SOME, SOME OF YOU GUYS HERE, WHEN WE WALKED THROUGH THE SPACE, IT DOES FLOW RIGHT.

AS WE WALKED IN THROUGH THE DOWNSTAIRS UPSTAIRS, IT KIND OF BECOMES AN EYESORE AND I SAW IT AND EVERYBODY'S KIND OF FACED WHEN WE SEE THE INTERIOR OF THAT SECOND STORY AND CLOSED, UM, PATIO THAT IT KIND OF IS A DEAD END.

AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN BRING IT TO A PART, UM, THAT IS MORE FUNCTIONAL AND MORE INVITING FOR NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY, BUT THE BUSINESS, I GUESS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, ANY FROM THE VIRTUAL COMMISSION? OKAY.

SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND MADAM CHAIR MAY BE YOU OR, OR COMMISSIONER COOK AND HELP ANSWER THESE.

BUT IN LOOKING AT THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE, OF THE STRUCTURE IS THAT AS IT FACES US, I GUESS IN THE, IN FIGURE THREE OF STAFF'S REPORT, IT APPEARS THAT THAT, THAT APPEARS TO ME THAT THAT'S STUCCO OVER MASONRY.

IS THAT ACCURATE AT WHICH LOCATION, THE COLUMNS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE BALCONY AND THAT FRONT ELEVATION BEHIND IT, NOT HAVING REALLY LOOKED BEHIND THE STUCCO OR LOOKED AT ANYTHING ON THE FIRST LEVEL? I COULDN'T SAY FOR SURE, BUT, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY ASSUMPTION.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.

JUST, UH, I DIDN'T SEE IT CLEARLY ON THE DRAWINGS TO CONFIRM THAT YOU INTEND TO RECONSTRUCT NEW SOLID WOOD WINDOWS MATCHING THE EXISTING WINDOWS TO INFILL THE TWO OPENINGS AND A DOOR TO MATCH THE HISTORIC DOWNSTAIRS DOOR TO INFILL THOSE OPENINGS IN THE STONEWALL, TO, FROM THE STONEWALL, FROM THE INSIDE OF THE PORCH.

IF THIS GOES THROUGH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU ASK THAT QUESTION? DEFINITELY THE, RIGHT NOW THAT THE DOOR AND THE TWO WINDOWS ARE JUST FRAME OPENINGS, UH, THAT YOU INTEND TO RECREATE CUSTOM SOLID WOOD WINDOWS AND DOORS TO MATCH THE EXISTING IN THE BUILDING.

CORRECT.

AND THAT WAS HOPEFULLY PART OF THE TRADE-OFF IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE SAW IN THE PHOTOS, UH, THE WINDOWS HAD BEEN BUSTED OUT ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR SOME TIME, REGARDLESS OF WHICH WAY IT SWINGS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCUR THAT COST, UH, REALLY OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE BUILDING TO PUT THOSE WINDOWS BACK.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MATCH THE SECOND FLOOR DOOR, UH, TO MATCH THAT OF THE FIRST FLOOR.

SO IT'S ALL, UM, COHERENT AND IT LOOKS TO BE THE SAME.

DO YOU HAVE THE DOOR ON THE SECOND FLOOR? NO, MA'AM, UH, WE'RE TAKING THIS, THE FRAME.

UH, IT IS A DOOR THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY BUY AT HOME DEPOT.

IT'S NOT ANYTHING SPECIAL, NOT A HISTORIC JARA VINTAGE STORE.

NO, NO, MA'AM MY IDEA IS THAT WE TRY TO, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO RECREATE A CUSTOM DOOR THAT MATCHES THAT ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

IT WOULD, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WE COULD JUST BY COMMISSIONER.

I'M NOTICING THE PLANS THAT ARE BACKUP, AND THEN I'M NOT SEEING ANY SPECIFIC DETAILING, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE BALCONY, UH, THAN EXISTING WOOD COLUMN, UH, FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS, IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE COLUMNS ARE MAYBE IN QUESTIONABLE SHAPE.

IT'S VERY LIKELY SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO SUGGEST REPLACING THEM.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU PICKED UP ON STAFF'S DISCUSSION ABOUT THE IMPORTANT OF THOSE IS CHAMFERED COLUMNS.

SO IF THOSE ARE TO BE REPLACED, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THEY WERE AN EXACT REPRODUCTION OF WHAT WAS REMOVED AND IT'S NOT APPARENT FROM THE WAY THEIR POSITION NOW THAT THAT THAT'S THAT IMPORTANT.

BUT ONCE THEY'RE FREESTANDING COLUMNS, THOSE WILL BECOME VERY IMPORTANT FEATURES OF THAT PORCH.

SO, UH, AGAIN, IT'S NOT NOTED ON THE DRAWING OTHER THAN JUST EXISTING WOOD COLUMN, BUT I THINK IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT YOU'LL W YOU WILL HAVE TO BE, UH, REPRODUCING THOSE, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE, UH, AN EXACT REPLICA, IF THAT'S THE CASE, UH, IDEALLY THEY AREN'T IN BAD SHAPE, BUT IT LOOKS FROM THE PHOTOGRAPH.

LIKE THEY, THEY PROBABLY WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED.

AND ARE THOSE THE COLUMNS THAT ARE KIND OF THE BLUISH GRAY HUE THAT WE SAW? YEAH, NO, THAT, THAT ALL MAKES SENSE MEANS THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT SQUARED OFF.

THEY'RE CUTTING.

THEY'RE AT AN ANGLE TO SQUARE.

IT'S NOT A SQUARE COLUMN THERE.

THEY HAVE, UH, LIKE AN ANGULAR CUT ON THE SHARP EDGE.

IMPORTANT HISTORIC DETAIL, RIGHT.

THE 45 DEGREES OUT OF THE EDGES.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THEY, WHAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE A SQUARE PROFILE, STARTS TAKING ON MORE OF A, THE LOOK OF A, OF A POLAR ROUNDED COLUMN.

IT SOFTENS THE PROFILE AND THE LOOK, AND IT'S, UH, AN

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AND AGAIN, IF YOU, IF, IF THEY ARE IN GOOD ENOUGH SHAPE AND THAT'D BE WONDERFUL IF THEY WERE, BUT, UM, JUST FROM THE PHOTOGRAPH SIDE, UM, I'M CONCERNED.

AND PARTICULARLY SINCE THE COLUMNS ARE NOT SHOWN WITH ANY DETAIL, BUT JUST DIAGRAMMATICALLY ON YOUR PLANS THAT, UH, YOU'RE VERY CLEAR THAT THAT IS TO BE EITHER PRESERVED OR IF WORST CASE SCENARIO REPRODUCED EXACTLY IN THE WAY THAT THOSE CHAMFERS ARE CURRENTLY, I'M A BIT CONFUSED BY STAFF PRESENTATION, THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, 1923, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A ROOF OR COLUMNS.

YOU HAVE HAND RAIL AND POSTS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT HAD IN 1923.

ALL WE KNOW IS THAT THERE WAS A ONE STORY.

THERE WAS, OR 1922, THERE WAS A ONE STORY, UH, PORCH.

SO IT WAS THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, PROBABLY WITH A FLAT ROOF.

UM, AND THEN AT A LATER DATE BETWEEN 23 AND 35, UH, THE 1935 SANBORN SHOWS THE TWO STORY PORCH AND THEN THE 1900 COVERED.

AND THEN THE 1942 RENDERING SHOWS IT ENCLOSED.

STAFF'S REPORT.

I GUESS I GOT TO FIND THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS APPLICATION.

I FIGURE FOR THE ARTIST'S RENDERING AND IN MY MIND APPEARS TO BE MORE LIKELY, BUT I GUESS WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW SOMETHING THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS WHEN, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DISCUSS THIS, UH, IS WHAT ERA IS IT ASSOCIATED WITH AND, AND IS THAT, WHICH IS MORE SIGNIFICANT.

UM, BUT WE'LL DISCUSS THAT, UH, LATER.

UM, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, ANYONE REGISTERED, UH, VIA PHONE AND PARTICIPATION.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER IN FAVOR SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE, UM, IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK, UM, AN OPPOSITION OR YES, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION AT FIRST IS, UH, A DASH.

UM, YOU MAY SIT DOWN MR. KIMPTON, NIA MS. DASH PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME'S ROWENA HATTON DASH, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NEIL COCHRAN HOUSE MUSEUM LOCATED JUST ACROSS 24TH STREET FROM THE FONTAINE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDING.

I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY STATING THAT I APPRECIATE THE RIGOR WITH WHICH ELIZABETH BRUMMETT AND THE STAFF OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE HAVE APPROACHED THIS PROJECT.

THE REVISED PROPOSAL DOES INDEED APPEAR TO FIT WITHIN THE GUIDELINES SET OUT BY THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR.

I HOWEVER, REMAIN CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, CONSIDERING BOTH PAST ACTIONS AND CURRENT ISSUES SURROUNDING THE STRUCTURE.

ONE CONCERN IS THAT FURTHER CHANGES TO THE EAST FACADE OF THE BUILDING MAY MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR AUSTINITES TO SEE AND RECOGNIZE THE STRUCTURE FOR WHAT IT IS THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE.

HAD THE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE THAT HORSESHOES IT TODAY, BEEN DISALLOWED OR REQUIRED TO SHOW MORE RESPECT FOR THE BUILDING AND THE HISTORY IT REPRESENTS.

I'M ALSO AWARE THAT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY HAVE PRODUCED A PLAQUE TO HONOR JACOB FONTANE, BUT HAVE DONE SO WITHOUT, AS FAR AS I OR ANY OTHER SCHOLAR OF THE TIME, PERIOD IS AWARE INPUT FROM SCHOLARS OR FROM INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHO SHOULD HAVE A VOICE IN THIS COMMEMORATION.

AS A RESULT, I ASKED THAT THE COMMISSION TREAD VERY CAREFULLY WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

I FEAR THAT ONCE DEMOLITION STARTS HISTORIC FABRIC WILL BE REMOVED.

THAT CANNOT BE RESTORED.

FOR INSTANCE, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT THE COLUMNS THAT SUPPORT THE BALCONY ARE NO LONGER STRUCTURALLY SOUND, UM, AND THAT HAS JUST COME UP.

HOW FAR WILL THE COMMISSION BEND? ONCE THE PROCESS IS UNDERWAY, I ASK THAT THE COMMISSION ASSERT IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, THAT PRIORITY MUST BE GIVEN TO THE PRESERVATION OF THIS BUILDING AS A RECOGNIZABLE LEGACY OF WHEAT MILL, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER DIFFICULTIES ARISE DURING THE WORK THAT FOLLOWS THE FONTAINE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDING HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME AND HAS PLAYED A VARIETY OF ROLES WITHIN A VIBRANT AND EVER-CHANGING NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS THE NEIL COCHRAN HOUSE, MUSEUMS, HOPE AND WISH THAT IT CONTINUED TO PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE AS A REMINDER OF WHAT HAS BEEN LOST AND A BEACON FOR THE VALUE THAT NOT JUST JACOB FONTAINE, BUT THAT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF WEAVERVILLE ADDED TO OUR CITY.

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I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT IS YOUR, UM, DO YOU HAVE, ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT THE LOSS OF THIS ENCLOSED ROOM WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHEAT VOL? MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT AS DEMOLITION PROCEEDS, IT MAY BECOME VERY CLEAR THAT THAT WHOLE FRONT SECTION HAS TO GO BECAUSE CLEAR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A NEW BALCONY, I, I WOULD ASSUME IS IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO STAND IN IT, SIT THERE, BE A PART OF THE BUSINESS, RIGHT.

WHICH IS GOING TO REQUIRE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER VERIFYING THAT THAT IS SOUND.

UM, I CAN TELL YOU, I DID ACTUALLY EAT DINNER UPSTAIRS AT FRIEDMAN'S WHEN IT WAS A BARBECUE PLACE, IT WAS A PRIVATE EVENT SPACE.

UM, AND IT WAS A LITTLE, IT WAS A LITTLE FRIGHTENING.

SO, UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY IN WHICH THE STRUCTURE SURROUNDING IT HAS BEEN BUILT UP TO ABOUT FIVE FEET OF DISTANCE SURROUNDING THE ORIGINAL BUILDING, IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO RECOGNIZE IT AS THE STRUCTURE.

IT IS WITHOUT THE BALCONY THAT IS IN FRONT OF IT TODAY.

AND WHILE THAT BALCONY IS NOT FROM THE 19TH CENTURY, IT IS PART OF THE HISTORIC FABRIC OF WHAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT SPACE TO BE.

SO IF IT WERE SIMPLY REMOVED AND TAKEN BACK TO THE 1875 APPEARANCE, WHATEVER, WE ASSUME THAT 1875 APPEARANCE MAY HAVE BEEN, UM, THE CHALLENGE THERE IS THAT IT'S THEN FLUSHED WITH THE REST OF THE ENCLOSING STRUCTURE AND, AND, AND IT'S ERASED VISUALLY.

UM, AND SO I FIND THAT REALLY TROUBLING, UM, AND BELIEVE THAT SOME ELEMENT OF A, AN FIXTURE, UM, IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING REMAINS IMPORTANT SO THAT IT REMAINS VISIBLE VISIBLY, UM, WHAT IT HAS BEEN TO THE COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS.

IF DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES.

I SOMETIMES, UM, ACCRETIONS HAVE TAKE ON HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THEIR OWN, AND WE KNOW THAT THIS ENCLOSURE WAS THERE BUYING 1942, PRETTY MUCH THE WAY IT LOOKS NOW.

UM, I JUST WONDERED WHAT YOUR TAKE WAS ON THAT SINCE IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE WINDOWS ARE RIGHT.

I MEAN, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT CAN, AS I SAY, I THINK THIS ACTUALLY DOES FIT WELL WITH THE SECRETARY, JERRY OF THE INTERIOR'S GUIDELINES.

MY CONCERN IS, IS, IS WHAT HAPPENS NOW.

IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO DOWN THE ROAD OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AS THE DEMOLITION PROCEEDS, AND AS YOU SAW THE, THE, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT STRUCTURE AND BURN IT, BUT IT'S JUST GONE.

AND, UM, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'VE GOT A CREW ONSITE AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING THINGS APART, AND ONE OF THOSE COLUMNS FALLS OVER, I MEAN, WHO KNOWS, UM, AS THE STRUCTURE, UM, IS, IS DISMANTLED.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER COMMISSIONER? I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, ON FIRST, I APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY AND BEING HERE AND SPEAKING, AND YOU PARTIALLY SPOKE TO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF THAT IT'LL MAKE IT HARDER TO SEE THE STRUCTURE FOR WHAT IT IS.

UM, AND YOU, YOU KIND OF EXPLAINED THAT, BUT THE, THE PORCH ROOF WILL STILL BE THERE AND THE COLUMNS WILL STILL BE THERE.

THE STUCCO COLUMNS AND THE STONE WILL THEN BE EXPOSED ON THE STREET FACADE AND THE WINDOWS.

DOES THAT, DO THOSE DETAILS, GIVE YOU ANY SOLACE IN TERMS OF LOSS OF KIND OF THAT MASS THAT STICKS OUT THAT YOU SEE, BUT YOU'LL, YOU'LL STILL HAVE A MASS OUT THERE.

IT'LL JUST BE LIGHTER.

IN FACT, I MEAN, IT, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I HAD TO SPEAK EITHER FOR, OR AGAINST, AND FRANKLY I SPEAK FOR AMBIVALENCE, UM, NOT, NOT, NOT FOR OR AGAINST.

I, I DON'T HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THE PROPOSAL.

MY CONCERN IS THAT THE, THIS PROPOSAL ACTUALLY SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.

AND, YEAH.

THAT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT'S VERY CLEARLY INDICATED WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE ALL THE OTHER WINDOWS WERE IN AND WHEN THOSE ARE REMOVED, THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDING NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.

UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH.

YES, YES.

COMMISSIONER HAIM, SETH.

WELL, AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, UH, MS. DASH, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND BRINGING UP THESE IMPORTANT ITEMS, UH, THAT DOES PERHAPS ALLOW ME TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE, UM, AND, AND THIS MAY, IN SOME WAYS, BE YOUR CONCERN AS WELL, WHICH IS THAT BECAUSE IN THE DRAWINGS PRESENTED, THERE ARE NO ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS THAT SHOW THE SPECIFICS OF HOW THE STRUCTURE SHOULD BE BUILT AS IT RELATES TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

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AND SO WE'RE A LESS SENSITIVE, SHALL WE SAY, A CONTRACTOR STRICTLY LOOKING AT PUTTING A TWO STORY BALCONY UP.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO ON THE RECORD AND, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE'RE ENCOURAGING THIS OWNER TO LOVE AND CARE FOR, AND TAKE GOOD CARE OF THIS BUILDING, THIS IS AS YOUS FADED, THE CRITICAL STRUCTURE, UH, OR THE, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENTS OF THIS ENTIRE HISTORIC BUILDING RIGHT NOW, JUST BASED ON THE WAY IT PRESENTS ITSELF TO THE STREET AND ALL THE DETAILS ARE THERE.

THEY NEED TO BE PRESERVED.

IF THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF REBUILDING, THEY NEED TO BE PUT BACK EXACTLY LIKE THEY WERE IN ORDER THAT THAT HISTORY IS MAINTAINED.

STRICTLY HAVING A TWO STORY BALCONY IN FRONT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND IT'S NOT EVERY CARPENTER.

IT'S NOT EVERY CONTRACTOR THAT IS UNDERSTANDING THAT IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.

SO, UH, I, I, I TAKE IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE LEVEL OF CARE AND, AND, AND SCRUTINY THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP.

AND, AND YOUR CONCERN OF COURSE, IS THAT, UH, THE OWNER IS CLEARLY, UH, MADE AWARE OF THAT.

I KIND OF STATED THAT CORRECTLY.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK WE CAN, UM, DIS WE'LL DISCUSS THIS FURTHER IN, UH, IN OUR DELIBERATIONS, BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THESE PARTICULAR THINGS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT A PLAQUE THAT HAS NOT PASSED, UH, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION OR THE CITY OF AUSTIN WILL NOT GO UP ON THE EXTERIOR OF THIS BUILDING WITHOUT, UM, APPROVAL BY THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, WITH THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE AN OPPOSITION IS DR.

TARA DUDLEY.

AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE AUDIENCE.

UM, IF YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, UM, WHILE SOMEONE IS SPEAKING, PLEASE TAKE IT TO THE LOBBY, UM, IN CONSIDERATION FOR OUR SPEAKERS AND OUR COMMISSIONERS.

SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR US TO, UH, UH, TO HEAR, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL TALKING THROUGH MASS TOO.

SO, UM, THAT WOULD HELP.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU, DR.

DUDLEY.

AND WHAT DIMINISHED THE BUILDING STANDING IN BLACK AUSTIN'S COLLECTIVE HISTORY, FURTHER ERASING BLACKNESS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN ITSELF.

I AM DR.

TARA DUDLEY.

I'M AN ASSISTANT PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE, WHERE I TEACH COURSES IN ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

I'VE BEEN EMPLOYED AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONSULTANT HERE IN AUSTIN SINCE 2003.

AND I'M CURRENTLY SERVING AS CHAIR OF THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION STATE BOARD OF REVIEW.

YET AGAIN, THE JACOB FONTANE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDING IS BEFORE THIS ESTEEMED BODY, I SPEAK FOR NO ONE ENTITY.

AS I IMPLORE YOU TO CONSIDER THE VARIOUS CHANGES PROPOSED TO THE BUILDING STRUCTURE.

THE BLACK COMMUNITY OF WEAVERVILLE IS LONG GONE TO PLEAD ITS CASE OR THAT OF THE BUILDING, THE VOICES OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THOSE OF GEORGE WHO WAS THE FIRST FRIEDMAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF 12 24 0 2 SAN GABRIEL OR REVEREND JACOB FONTANE, WHO CIVIC LEADERSHIP WAS INSTRUMENTAL TO WEAVERVILLE.

AND THE GROWTH OF AUSTIN HAVE BEEN ERASED.

THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO LANDMARK THE BUILDING HAVE NOT STEMMED THAT ERASER.

AND IN SOME WAYS HAS CONTRIBUTED TO IT OR PROPOSE ALTERATIONS AS REVISED OR MUCH IMPROVED THAN THAT PRESENTED IN THE INITIAL APPLICATION.

THERE ARE STILL ISSUES AT BAY AND QUESTIONS THAT REMAIN UNANSWERED I, AND SEVERAL COLLEAGUES OF THE OPINION THAT THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN CARRIED OUT BY A PRESERVATION ARCHITECT AND THEN PRESENTED TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION WITHOUT PROPER HISTORICAL AND AN ARCHITECTURAL INVESTIGATION AND OVERSIGHT.

WE RUN THE RISK OF CONTINUED AND IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORICAL INTEGRITY OF THE GOLD DOLLAR OVER THE ENTIRETY OF ITS HARRIET OF SIGNIFICANCE.

I LORD MR. SEDOWSKY HIS EFFORTS TO RECOGNIZE THE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDING I AND AUSTIN'S PRESERVATION COMMUNITY WILL FEEL HIS ABSENCE HANELY WE CERTAINLY OWE IT TO HIM TO SEE THIS THROUGH CORRECTLY.

THE PROPOSED RESTORATION WORK NOTWITHSTANDING ISSUE ALSO NEEDS TO BE TAKEN WITH THE SIGNAGE SLATED FOR INTERPRETATION.

NO THIRD-PARTY WAS CONSULTED THE INFORMATION PRESENTED.

DOES NOT ENHANCE THE STORY OF THE BUILDING.

AND IN SOME INSTANCES IS INACCURATE.

THE HLC SHOULD HAVE OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGNAGE IS CORRECT AND BEING INSTALLED FOR THE RIGHT REASONS IN HISTORICAL NARRATIVE AND STATEMENT THAT I CO-AUTHORED WITH DR.

EDMOND GORDON, CHARLES AMOS HORN AND ANTONY SUPPLANT, WHICH IS THE WEBSITE OF WHICH DR.

DASH SPOKE.

WE WROTE THE FOLLOWING GRANTING THE CURRENT REQUEST TO REMOVE THE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDINGS PORCH WITHOUT CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF A STRUCTURAL EVOLUTION AND HISTORIC CONTEXT WOULD UNDERMINE THE UNIQUE VISUAL FEATURE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT IS THE SOLE REMAINING VISIBLE SYMBOL OF WHITFIELD.

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MINIMALLY PHYSICAL MODIFICATION SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO THE BUILDING UNTIL EXPERTS CAN STUDY THE STRUCTURE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PRESERVATION BEST PRACTICES.

THIS BUILDING SHOULD SERVE AS A SMALL BUT SIGNIFICANT FORM OF REPAIRATIVE RECOGNITION OF BLACK PRESENCE, COLLECTIVITY AND AGENCY IN OUR CITY.

THE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDING MUST BE APPROPRIATELY PRESERVED AND HONORED AS A CENTRAL SYMBOL OF THE SOCIAL MEMORY OF BLACKNESS IN AUSTIN.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DR.

DUBLIN? I HAVE A QUESTION.

I APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION VERY MUCH.

I SO VALUE YOUR OPINION.

I'VE ATTENDED SEVERAL OF YOUR TALKS AND, AND APPRECIATED YOUR RESEARCH, ESPECIALLY THE DEEP RESEARCH.

I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU LOOK AT A RESTORATION, IT'S ALWAYS VERY TRICKY AND I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR OPINION.

UH, YOU HAVE THE STATEMENT THAT IT'S, IT'S A REPRESENTATION OF, OF BLACK AUSTIN, THAT ENCLOSURE, BUT IF THE SANBORN MAPS INDICATE IT WASN'T ENCLOSED UNTIL 1935, AFTER WE BILL HAD BEEN OBLITERATED AND EVERYONE FORCED INTO EAST AUSTIN, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME, HONESTLY, IT SEEMED LIKE A RESTORATION TO A PERIOD WHERE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO CELEBRATE AND A REMOVAL OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN A PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE'D RATHER FORGET.

AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS YOUR OPINION ON THAT.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT IF WE KNEW WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKED LIKE IN FONTANE STATE OR BEFORE 1923, BUT WE DON'T.

AND WHILE MUCH OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY OF WEAVERVILLE HAD BEEN FORCED TO MOVE TO EAST AUSTIN AND OTHER PLACES BY THIS POINT, UM, CENSUS RECORDS, CITY DIRECTORIES DOES INDICATE THAT THERE WERE BLACK RESIDENTS OF WHEAT VILLE WHO TRIED TO HOLD ON AND EVEN WITH THE CLOSURE OF THE WHEAT FIELD SCHOOL, AND OTHER AMENITIES WOULD HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA AND FAMILIAR WITH THE BUILDING AS IT WAS PRESENTED SOMETIME BY THE MID TWENTIES, MOVING INTO THE THIRTIES.

AND AS WE KNOW IT IN THAT FIRST APPEARANCE IN 1942.

SO I THINK, UM, THAT THE BUILDING FROM THAT LATER PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE IS IMPORTANT.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE FOCUSING THE BUILDING IS NOW APPROPRIATELY RENAMED THE JACOB FONTANE GOLD DOLLAR BUILDING, UM, WE STILL HAVE A MUCH LONGER PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE.

IT'S NOT TO SAY WE SHOULD FIT IT.

FORGET ABOUT THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF RESIDENTS OF WHEAT VILLE, LIKE THE PARONE FAMILY, LIKE THE FRIENDS, EDDIE FAMILY, WHO WERE SUCH AN INTEGRAL PART OF THAT COMMUNITY AND ITS BUSINESS.

THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN AFRICAN-AMERICAN RESIDENTS OF WHEAT VILLE, UM, WHO UTILIZE THAT BUILDINGS BUSINESS, WHO PATRONIZE THOSE, UM, THOSE OWNERS.

AND THERE WERE AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHO WORKED FOR THEM AS WELL.

IF YOU CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO THAT DEEPER HISTORY.

AND SO I'M MORE CONCERNED, UM, IT'S, IT'S PART OF A LONGER HISTORICAL NARRATIVE, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DIMINISH ANY OF THOSE PERIODS OF SIGNIFICANCE.

AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, THAT IS THE, UH, FEATURE OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S A CONTRIBUTING FEATURE OF THE BUILDING THAT WE RECOGNIZE, UH, AND THAT HISTORY AND REMOVAL OF, OF ANYTHING IN ITS ENTIRETY FROM THAT FACADE WILL REALLY, UM, CAUSE THE BUILDING TO DISAPPEAR IN THE HORSESHOE THAT HAS BEEN CREATED AROUND IT.

UH, AND UH, IF SOMEONE FROM WEEKSVILLE IN THE THIRTIES, EARLY FORTIES WERE TO VISIT THAT, THAT PROPERTY, THEY WOULD STILL TO A CERTAIN EXTENT RECOGNIZE THAT BUILDING.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY FACADE WE HAVE LEFT OF IT.

UH, AND SO EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE THIS EMPHASIS ON THE COMMUNITY OF WEAVERVILLE, WE BUILD IT IN DIE WITH THE 1928 CITY PLAN.

THERE WAS STILL A COMMUNITY, NOT ONCE AS VIBRANT AS IT HAD BEEN, BUT STILL PRESENT, UH, AT THAT TIME.

AND SO THE LATER ADDITION, I DON'T THINK DIMINISHES OR CONFLICTS THAT HISTORY, UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST THAT LARGER HISTORICAL NARRATIVE AND TRAJECTORY, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY OR THE BUILDING OF IN AND OF ITSELF, UH, THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT.

UH, THERE'S SOMEONE WHO HAS THEIR HAND UP IN THE BACK.

ARE YOU A SPEAKER IN NO.

YOU COME UP TO THE, COME UP TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, HUSTLE ON DOWN AND STATE.

PERIOD, PLAN OF MOVING AND FORCEFULLY MOVING BLACK PEOPLE OUT OF THAT AREA.

STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS .

I TYPICALLY GO BY MIKE HILL FOR SIMPLICITY.

I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS SPACE COMING AS A RESIDENT, ONE OF THE FEW BLACK RESIDENTS OF THE HISTORICAL WHEAT FILL AREA.

UM, I FIRST WANT TO START BY STAYING JUST FRANKLY HOW DISAPPOINTED I AM AND HOW THIS ENTIRE PROCESS WAS CARRIED OUT BY THE PROPOSED OWNERS OR THE CURRENT OWNERS WHO ARE TRYING TO IMPRINT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR DESIRES ON THIS SPACE THAT HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE 1920S AREA PLAN.

I MEAN

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AND SO THAT'S MY FIRST CONCERN BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF THEY ARE TO COME HERE AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAKE THEIR INFANT, I'M ALSO FROM HOUSTON AS WELL.

HOUSTON AREA GREW UP COMING HERE.

I LOVE THIS SPACE.

AUSTIN IS A MAGICAL SPACE.

THE THING IS SO MANY PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT AND THEY'RE WILLING TO COME IN WITH THE RESOURCE AND MONEY AND POWER AND IMPRINT THEIR WILL ON THIS AREA.

AND FOR THAT TO BE HAPPENING ON THE LAST DAY OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN 2022, AND THE LAST STANDING BUILDING IN WEAVERVILLE IS VERY DISAPPOINTING TO ME.

AUSTIN HAS ALWAYS REPRESENTED THE GALVANIZING OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF WHITE PEOPLE AS WELL.

NON-BLACK PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE HISTORY, TO RESPECT THAT, TO FIGHT FOR IT.

NO MATTER WHAT, WHEN I CAME IN HERE, I HEARD ABOUT A PROJECT THAT ALREADY SAW DEMOLITION, AND NOW WE'RE THINKING RETROACTIVELY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THAT.

THOSE ARE NOT THE CONVERSATIONS TO BE HAD IN THIS CITY.

WHEN HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS, IF NOT, TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE COMING TO, TO GENUINELY COLONIZE THIS SPACE.

AND I USE THE WORD COLONIZED VERY INTENTIONALLY, BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER AND OVER TO PEOPLE OF COLOR THROUGHOUT TIME.

IT HAS HAPPENED ESPECIALLY TO BLACK PEOPLE.

AND SO YOU ALL ARE A PART OF BLACK HISTORY RIGHT NOW, DECIDING WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS BUILDING.

I'M UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE APPROACH THAT WAS TAKEN TO OCCUPY THIS SPACE, BECAUSE TO ME, IT SHOWS THAT YOU HAVE VALUED PROFIT OVER THE ENTIRE HISTORY AND BLACK HISTORY OF THIS SPACE.

AND SO I'LL JUST BE VERY FRANK.

THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME YOU'LL SEE OF ME BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS OR PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THIS.

YOU CAN'T JUST COME IN, YOU KNOW, AND I, I APPRECIATE, I, I'M ALMOST DONE PLEASE ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

I WILL.

I, YOU KNOW, I, AND I, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, DECORUM AND RULES HERE, BUT THERE ALSO IS PASSION HERE.

THERE ALSO IS LOVE HERE, AND THERE IS A DESIRE FOR THIS TO BE DONE CORRECTLY.

SO I REALLY JUST IMPLORE EVERYONE USED THEIR VOICE, EVEN AS THEY ADVOCATE FOR THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS, THEIR OWN HOMES, THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES TO SAY THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A SYMBOLIC NATURE OF WHAT WE DO.

WHENEVER PEOPLE TRY TO CHANGE WHAT IT IS, THE HISTORY OF AUSTIN.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND WE WILL, UM, IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER OF, IF YOU'RE, WHEN YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK, COME ON DOWN TOWARDS THE FRONT PLACE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH.

I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAD QUESTIONS FOR OTHER PEOPLE AS A RESIDENCE, A BLACK RESIDENT OF WEAVERVILLE DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, A SURFACE LEVEL TERTIARY CONVERSATION.

I WOULD HOPE, I THINK THAT YOU YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT FOR US.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY, SIR, COME ON DOWN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS EDWIN BALTISTA AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I STAND BEFORE YOU, NOT IN MY ROLE AS A COMMUNITY, REGIONAL PLANNING GRADUATE STUDENT AT UT AUSTIN OR AS A COLLEGE STUDENT COMMISSIONER, BUT I STAND BEFORE YOU AS THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE WEST CAMPUS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AND AS A CONCERN CITY OF AUSTIN RESIDENT, I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THE REMOVAL OF THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONY AT THE REVEREND JACOB ON TANK OLD BUILDING AND PRESERVE THAT AND COMMEMORATE WHEAT BILL'S LAST REMAINING STRUCTURE.

I BELIEVE THE CITY OF BOSTON HAS ALREADY DONE A GREAT DISSERVICE TO THE TWO AUSTIN'S BLACK COMMUNITY WITH REGARDS TO RECOGNIZING AND HONORING BLACKNESS IN AUSTIN, ESPECIALLY IN WHAT WE NOW CALL WEST CAMPUS.

I BELIEVE THAT THE DECISION TO PRESERVE THE BUILDING AS IT IS, I I'M SORRY.

I HOPE THAT THE DECISION TO PRESERVE THE BUILDING AS IT IS, IS MADE, OR AT LEAST CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF ITS STRUCTURAL IN EVOLUTION, HISTORIC CONTEXT, BE USED TO INFORM THE BEST PRESERVATION PRACTICES.

I PLAYED THAT YOU LISTEN AND LEARN FROM THE MARGINALIZED BLACK COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY OPPRESSED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

PLEASE VOTE TO OPPOSE ANY ALTERATIONS TO THE REVEREND JACOB VAULTING COLD BUILDING.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.

THE APPLICANT WILL GET TWO MINUTES TO REBUT.

SPOKE IN OPPOSITION SAYS THERE WAS A PLAQUE MADE BY OWNERSHIP.

SHOULD I RESTATE MY NAME FOR THE RECORD? NO.

COOL.

AWESOME.

YEAH, I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME.

I APPRECIATE THE PASSION OF EVERYBODY.

I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT OF THOSE.

I GUESS ONE QUESTION I HAD AND THEN A COUPLE POINTS TO MAKE.

UM, I THINK THE FIRST SPEAKER WHO

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UH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PLAQUE IS IN ASSOCIATED WITH ME OR THE BUSINESS.

AND I'M KIND OF CONFUSED OF WHAT THIS BLACK EVEN IS OR WHO CONSTRUCTED IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

GOT IT.

I THINK MIKE MCKOWN BROUGHT SOMETHING HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND, UH, WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IT AND IT SHOULD, UM, TRANSITIONING ONE OF THE SPEAKERS ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, HOW THEY WEREN'T REALLY FOR, OR AGAINST THIS.

UH, BUT THEY DID TALK ABOUT DIFFICULTIES OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, MYSELF AND THE TEAM ARE VERY AWARE OF THE DIFFICULTIES AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, UM, FOR US TO EVEN KIND OF GET TO THIS POINT AND, AND THE AMOUNT THAT WE'VE SPENT TO GET TO THIS POINT IN THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SPEND, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THIS SWINGS.

UM, IF THE, IF THE CONCERNS ARE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGING AND COSTLY.

UM, I GUESS WHAT I SAY TO THAT IS IF NOT US, OUR TEAM THEN WHO IS THIS GOING TO GO INTO CONTINUOUSLY BE NEGLECTED.

THAT IS, UH, A CHALLENGING, COSTLY THING THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUOUSLY BE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD AND THERE'S NOBODY REALLY GOING TO STEP UP, UM, AND, AND MAKE USE OF THE BUILDING, UH, AND ALL OF ITS SPACE, NOT JUST PART OF IT.

UM, IN CONCLUSION, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF PASSION AROUND, UM, IT'S ENCLOSURE, BUT THEN I ASK IS WHAT ABOUT THE PASSION OF THE STONE STRUCTURE ON THE SECOND FLOOR? THE WINDOWS THAT HAVE BEEN BUSTED OUT THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT NEW WINDOWS IN, UM, THE SECOND FLOOR DOOR TO MATCH THE FIRST, UM, ARE, THOSE ARE EQUALLY AS, UM, I GUESS, ARE THOSE NOT EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT IS AROUND US.

UM, AND LASTLY, THE CONTRACTOR CONCERN, UH, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT A CONTRACTOR.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SAID THIS ON QUOTE, BUT COULD KIND OF COME IN AND JUST KIND OF START DEMOING THINGS.

EVERYTHING THAT I'VE DONE WITH THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN WITH Y'ALL'S GUIDANCE.

UM, AND SO IF IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE WOULD BRING A CONTRACTOR AND A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER ON BOARD, IT WOULD NEVER BE WITHOUT Y'ALL, UM, INSIGHT, APPROVAL AND BLESSING.

UM, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE DONE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECOND? OKAY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER COOK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.

CASTEEL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE SAY, AYE, RAISE YOUR HAND AS WELL.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS COMPLEX CASE I WOULD CONSIDER POSSIBLY POSTPONING IT AGAIN.

I'M GOING TO, FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION, MOVE TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO, I NEED TO PHRASE THIS CAREFULLY APPROVE THE CONCEPT, BUT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL, MORE DETAILED DRAWINGS BEFORE COMPLETE APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND THAT NOTING THAT THAT'S NOT EXACTLY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO WITH THE CLARIFICATION THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SAYING, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY COMMISSIONER COOK, THAT WE WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL DRAWINGS AND THEN WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE THE SELECTIVE DEMOLITION, CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND I, WASN'T QUITE SURE HOW TO MAKE THE MOTION AMONG THE THINGS THAT WERE ALLOWED TO DO, WHICH, UM, THAT MAY BE EQUIVALENT TO A POSTPONEMENT, UH, IF WE NEED TO SEE ADDITIONAL DRAWINGS, BUT I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THE MOTION AS IT IS FOR NOW FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE'LL BE WITHDRAWN AND RESTATED AFTER DISCUSSION.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL SECOND IT AGAIN FOR DISCUSSION.

WITH THAT CLARIFICATION.

UH, ROPER INTO, UM, CONSULTING WITH STAFF ON, ON HOW BEST TO GO ABOUT ANY FURTHER, UH, INVESTIGATIVE DEMOLITION OR FURTHER, UM, RESEARCH INTO THE, UM, INTO THE ORIGINS AND, AND, UM, EVOLUTION OF THE ENCLOSURE.

I HAVE, UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE FURTHER STUDY DONE, UM, ESPECIALLY HEARING FROM DR.

DUDLEY AND PERHAPS MAYBE WE COULD,

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I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT DR.

DUDLEY OR THE STAFF JUST, JUST VOLUNTEER, UH, NOW FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.

UM, COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA.

I AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE, UH, HOW WE JUST SORT OF WROTE DR.

DUDLEY INTO THIS, BUT, UH, SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS PARTICULARLY MOVED BY THE, UH, FIRST SPEAKERS CONCERNS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS CONSTRUCTION AND THEN REALIZED THAT IT WAS STRUCTURALLY UNSOUND.

WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THE HISTORIC, UM, THE FABRIC OF THE STRUCTURE AND HOW I JUST GOT A VISITOR? UM, BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT THERE'S ALSO A CONCERN THAT WHAT IF IT IS STRUCTURALLY UNSOUND, WHAT IS THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE MAKE THIS THING, UM, YOU KNOW, STABLE AND SUSTAINABLE AND USABLE SPACE? UM, I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE STRUCTURE BEFORE WE FULLY ALLOW IT.

UH, YEAH.

COMMISSIONER A LITTLE, UM, I THINK I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED IN THIS CASE TO PREFER A POSTPONEMENT OVER THAT KIND OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT DETAILS WE NEED TO SEE BEFORE WE CAN ISSUE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR RESTORATION SAY THAT REPLACEMENT OF MISSING FEATURES FROM THE RESTORATION PERIOD SHOULD BE SUBSTANTIATED BY DOCUMENTARY AND PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

AND I THINK BY REMOVING THAT MATERIAL IN THE INTERIOR OF THE PORCH, WE CAN SEE PARTS THAT WEREN'T THERE AT THAT EARLIER TIME PERIOD.

SO THINGS THAT ARE OKAY TO TAKE OFF, BUT YOU ALSO SHOULD NOT CREATE A FALSE SENSE OF HISTORY BY ADDING CONJECTURAL FEATURES OR COMBINING FEATURES THAT NEVER EXISTED HISTORICALLY.

AND SO WE KNOW WHAT WASN'T THERE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS, WE MIGHT NEVER KNOW IF WE DON'T HAVE PHOTOS OR DRAWINGS FROM THAT TIME PERIOD.

AND I JUST, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT, APPROVING REMOVAL OF SOME OF THAT WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY EXISTED THERE HISTORICALLY, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO AS WELL.

I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT WAS, THAT'S KIND OF MY, MY GENERAL THOUGHT ON IT.

I KNOW THAT THE, THE APPLICANTS ARE ANXIOUS TO, UH, TO GET AN APPROVAL, UM, AND GO FORWARD, BUT WE HAVE MADE MISTAKES REGARDING THIS BUILDING IN THE PAST.

AND, UH, I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE BETTER STEWARDS OF THE BUILDING, UH, FOR THE REASONS THAT, UM, THAT THE SPEAKERS BROUGHT OUT TONIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BELL, GO AHEAD.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.

I COMPLETELY AGREE.

AND I THINK WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A RESIDENCE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING, IT'S EASIER TO COME UP WITH A SIMPLE COMPATIBLE ELEMENT TO REPLACE SOMETHING, BUT A BUILDING OF THIS COMPLICATED SIGNIFICANCE IS A BIT TRICKIER TO JUST COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

WELL, I THINK THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO PUT ON SOME LIKE RUBBER SKIRT, KIND OF FLORAL NEW ORLEANS STYLE, ROD, IRON BALCONY, UM, KIND OF THING.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING AT THIS POINT.

UH, THANK YOU ALSO, DR.

DUDLEY, UM, FOR YOUR RESEARCH AND YOUR, UM, YOUR DEDICATION TO, UH, PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF THIS BUILDING.

I, I DO, UM, ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT OUR, OUR OWN DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, UH, ALSO STATE THAT, UH, WE SHOULD REPAIR RATHER THAN REPLACE AND CREATE, UM, THAT FALSE SENSE OF HISTORY.

UM, UNLESS WE HAVE THAT PHYSICAL OR PHOTOGRAPHIC, UM, EVIDENCE, UM, THAT COMMISSIONER LITTLE, UH, SPOKE TO, BUT I, I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE IF, IF WE ARE, UM, GOING TO LOOK AT THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE TO INCLUDE BOTH FONTANE AND PRINCE EDDIE, THAT'S A MUCH LONGER PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE AS, AS DR.

DUDLEY SPOKE TO.

UM, AND THIS PORCH WAS THERE FOR, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 80 YEARS, UM, IN THIS CONDITION, UM, AND IN THE STATE.

SO I THINK

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THAT THE PORCH HAS, YOU KNOW, BESIDES THE BUILDING ITSELF HAS, HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING, UH, CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE OF THIS.

AND WITHOUT THAT KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT MIGHT HAVE LOOKED LIKE, UM, WITH, UH, BEFORE THAT, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT WE COULD, UM, APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SOMETHING WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.

UM, AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A MUCH BROADER PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO MAINTAIN, UH, THE SAME POST PORCH.

HM.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

UM, WELL WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER HOME, SETH.

AS, AS I LISTENED TO EVERYBODY, I, AND, AND DR.

DUDLEY, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR REMARKS, THAT THE ISSUE IN MY MIND IS THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE AND HOW ARE WE DEFINING THAT? AND I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP US FURTHER UNDERSTAND THAT I, I, EARLIER IN MY REMARKS TO COMMISSIONER COOK WAS ABOUT THE STUCCO.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEHIND THE STUCCO.

AND I SUSPECT WHAT YOU WILL FIND IS THE STONEWORK SIMILAR TO THE REST OF THE BUILDING FACADE, WHICH, WHICH WOULD BE HELPFUL IN KIND OF CHARACTERIZING THAT ENCLOSURE.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU, MADAM CHAIR, THAT I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DISCOVERY THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR BEFORE WE MAKE THIS DECISION.

AND I THINK WE'RE, IN MY OPINION, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S NOT A COMPLETE CONSENSUS ON WHAT IS THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE.

SO THOSE ARE MY REMARKS.

AND I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT SINCE, SINCE THE PROPERTY WAS LISTED IN 1977, IT SEEMS TO ME, THE ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE AT 1927 AND PRIOR SHOULD BE THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE OTHERWISE, ANY, ANY OTHER LANDMARK THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONS MADE AFTER THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE ESTABLISHED, WHEN IT WAS FOUNDED AS A LANDMARK, WE COULD HAVE SWIMMING POOLS IN THE FRONT YARD THAT BECOME CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF PROPERTIES IN 50 YEARS.

SO THAT MAY BE A DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE IF 1927, ISN'T THE APPROPRIATE TIME PERIOD.

CAUSE SINCE IT'S USUALLY 50 YEARS PRIOR TO, UH, PRIOR TO LISTING, AND I DO WANT TO NOTE IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING THE STANDARDS, WE DO HAVE THE ROOF THERE.

WE DO HAVE THE WINDOW FRAME THERE.

WE DO HAVE SAMPLE DOORS AND WINDOWS SASHES TO REPLICATE.

UH, WE DO HAVE THE POSTS THERE.

UH, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE RAILING AND WHERE ARE WE WERE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE WAS A SUGGESTION TO DO ADDITIONAL DEMO, TO CHECK BEHIND THOSE PANELS.

AND IF THAT RAILING IS THERE, THEN IT BECOMES A DISCUSSION OF WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE PERIOD TO APPLY.

I NOTICED IN THE PHOTOS IN DR.

DUDLEY'S PRESENTATION, THAT THERE WAS AN INTERIOR PHOTO FROM 2012, THAT SEEMED TO SHOW THE POST EXPOSED IN THAT SPACE RATHER THAN HAVING THE DRYWALL PANEL ON THE END BOARD PORTION OF IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY TO GET ADDITIONAL PHOTOS FROM THAT PERIOD, FROM THAT SAME SOURCE THAT MAY ALLOW SOME, UH, VISIBILITY TO THAT AREA WITHOUT ASKING THE APPLICANT TO DO FURTHER DEMO.

I THINK WE WERE KIND OF AT AN IMPASSE WHERE IT WAS AT THE POINT WHERE SOME OF THESE THINGS, YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF DEMO TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND IT WAS TO THE POINT WHERE THERE WAS GONNA BE SO MUCH DEMO DONE, THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ON REVERSIBLE TO KNOW WHETHER IT COULD EVEN GO FORWARD.

SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THAT MOVES THINGS FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME THOUGHTS.

WELL, HERE I'LL THROW SOMETHING IN A MONKEY WRENCH IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY IN TRAVIS COUNTY, ITALIANS WERE OFTEN LISTED AS COLORED AND LIVED IN AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES AND, UH, RURAL FARMING COMMUNITIES.

I'M ASSUMING THAT THE FRIENDS THAT HE'S WE'RE ITALIAN AND THEIR, THEIR OCCUPATION OF THIS BUILDING MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT, UM, THAT MIXTURE OF ITALIAN AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS, UM, IT MIGHT BE SOME SOMETHING WORTH FOLLOWING UP ON.

I KNOW THAT THE CHORDS, THE KNEES WERE, UM, WERE LISTED AS, AS COLORED IN THE DIRECTORIES.

AND I UNDERSTOOD THE FRIENDS THAT HE FAMILY, SINCE THIS WAS NOT AGAINST OWNER'S WISHES, THE FRIENDS THAT HE FAMILY STILL OWN THE PROPERTY IN 1977.

AND THEY WERE THE ONES THAT APPLIED FOR THE STATUS IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAFF CAN SPEAK TO THAT BASED ON WHAT I'VE GLEANED IN THE LANDMARK FILE.

IT WAS A THIRD PARTY WHO NOMINATED THE PROPERTY FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

AND, UH, IT SEEMS THAT THE PRINCE EDDIE FAMILY WAS, WAS MIXED AND THEIR OPINIONS, BUT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION WITHIN THE FAMILY TO THE DESIGNATION.

INTERESTING.

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I, I HAVE, UM, CERTAINLY EVERY APPRECIATION FOR THE CONCERNS.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO AM THINKING FROM A MR. CANTONESE POINT OF VIEW WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUILDING THAT OVER TIME HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED, OR IS LOOKED AFTER IN A LEVEL THAT WOULD KEEP IT IN GOOD REPAIR AND MAKE IT A, UH, SERVICEABLE, UH, OPERATION.

AND SO NOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WORK AND RESTORATION ARE NECESSARY.

AND AS I SAID, MANY TIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON WHO COMES FORWARD EITHER AS THE OWNER, OR IS THE PRIMARY USER IN THIS CASE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING THEM TO REALLY USE GOOD STEWARDSHIP.

AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE FOCUSED ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING CORRECTLY.

AND THIS QUESTION ABOUT HAVING MORE DETAIL ADDRESSES, MY BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I EXPRESSED EARLIER ABOUT MAKING SURE THIS IS DONE RIGHT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE REST OF THE BUILDING, WHICH DOESN'T SEEM TO BE UNDER DISCUSSION.

UH, I THINK THE APPROACH THAT THIS OWNER, UH, APPEARS TO BE TAKING, THEY SAY THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT AS EASY FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND CONTINUE TO WANT TO OFFER THEIR STEWARDSHIP.

UH, BECAUSE, UM, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, IF, IF, IF HE'S NOT THE ONE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUARANTEE THAT WE WON'T BE RIGHT BACK IN THE PICKLE WHERE NOBODY WANTS TO DO ANYTHING TO THIS BUILDING.

UH, PARTICULARLY IF WE MAKE IT SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT BECOMES SUCH A HIGH BAR THAT NO ONE'S WILLING TO STEP OVER IT TO THAT END.

I ALSO WANT TO JUST ASSURE THE MR. CANTENILLA THAT I DO THINK THE RESEARCH IS NOT GOING TO BE ROCKET SCIENCE.

I MEAN, THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE AS COMMISSIONER COOK SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A STRUCTURE AND IT'S A VERY CLEAR INDICATION THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE PRIOR TO THE INFILL.

AND SO THE SEQUENCING IS IT NEEDS TO BE DOCUMENTED AND CONCERNED.

I THINK THE ADDITIONAL DRAWINGS WILL BE ABLE TO SHOW SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU REMOVE CERTAIN MATERIALS WHAT'S LEFT.

AND THEN IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT ADDITIONAL REINFORCEMENT FOR STRUCTURE THAT CAN ALL BE WORKED OUT RATHER EXPEDITIOUSLY.

UM, I THINK IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN TO IF WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE OF A SPECIFIC RAILING THAT WE CAN POINT TO AND NO ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS OR RENDERINGS WILL COME FORWARD, THAT WOULD INDICATE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THERE WAS A RAILING, UH, WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.

I DO THINK THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL POSSIBILITY WE CAN POINT TO, WHICH IS TO LOOK TO SIMILAR RAILINGS FOR STRUCTURES AND SIMILAR PERIOD OF TIME CARPENTERS WHO WERE DOING RAILINGS IN ONE PART OF TOWN IN AUSTIN AT THIS PERIOD OF TIME WERE PROBABLY DOING MANY OF THEM JUST LIKE IT.

AND SO THAT IS OFTENTIMES THE BEST, UH, ADDITIONAL WAY OF JUST REASSURING THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING UP HISTORY, BUT WE'RE USING A VERY, OUR BEST CONJECTURE, IF YOU WILL, TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS CONSISTENT AND IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE IMPLICATION THAT THE ONLY WAY WE CAN APPROVE THIS IS IF WE LEAVE IT JUST LIKE IT IS.

I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A RICH CONVERSATION.

I THINK THE DOCUMENTATION WILL HELP CLARIFY SOME OF THAT CONVERSATION.

UH, I DO THINK THAT THE ADDITIONAL TIME CAN BE WELL-SPENT, BUT I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THIS OWNER, UH, OF THIS, THIS USER TO MAKE HEADWAY ON THE REST OF THE PROJECT, EVEN AS THEY ARE, UH, OR, OR AS MUCH PROGRESS AS THEY CAN, EVEN AS THEY ARE HELPING US WITH THE DETAILING SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM DIRECTION AND THEN TURN THEM LOOSE AND GET THIS BUILDING BACK INTO A GOOD STEWARDSHIP COMMISSIONER, VILLAINS, WAYLON.

I DO JUST WANT TO COME BACK TO, UM, WHAT, WHAT IS KNOWN AND WHAT'S NOT KNOWN, UM, AT THE STATE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO THIS OPEN PORCH, BUT IN THE 1935 SANDBAR, WE SEE THAT IT WAS A TWO-STORY PORCH, BUT DO WE KNOW THAT IT WASN'T DO WE DEFINITIVELY KNOW IT WAS AN ENCLOSED AT THAT TIME? UM, AND EVEN IF IT WASN'T, IT WAS ENCLOSED A VERY SHORT TIME AFTER, UM, IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, UM, JUST LOOKING AT THE EVIDENCE AT THE SANDBORNE.

SO I REALLY THINK, UM, WE, WE HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT THAT PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANT IS BEFORE WE CAN, CAN GO FORWARD WITH WHAT'S APPROPRIATE, UM, FOR THIS RESTORATION, I THINK TOO, UM, COMMISSIONER HAIM SETS, UH,

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CONCERNS ABOUT ENCOURAGING THE APPLICANT, THE USER, UM, I THINK WE HAVE W WE HAVE VOLUNTEERED.

STAFF HAS BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES.

COMMISSIONER COOK HAS BEEN THERE.

I'VE BEEN THERE.

UM, WE'VE TRIED TO DO THIS, AND I THINK WITH THE, UH, THE ADDED, UM, DOCUMENTATION BY, UH, BY DR.

DUDLEY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE, WE ARE, WE ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS IN UNDERSTANDING THE BUILDING.

THIS IS, THIS IS COMPLEX.

THIS HAS, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE LAYERS.

AND I THINK THAT IT, UM, IT WOULDN'T HURT TO HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO DO FURTHER STUDY RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE A DECISION AND THEN POSSIBLY REGRET IT DOWN THE LINE.

UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

CAN YOU? YES, COMMISSIONER.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE TWO MORE FACTUAL STATEMENTS AND THEN AN ACTION ON MY MOTION.

FIRST IN THE 1935 SANBORN MAP, THE PORCH IS SHOWN WITH A DASH LINE, WHICH IS THE INDICATION OF AN OPEN PORCH.

SO THE DOCUMENTATION, WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT IT WAS OPEN TO THAT DATE, UH, THE LITHOGRAPH I'M 99% CONVINCED THAT THAT STORE, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UPPER BALCONIES WERE CLOSED WITH JUST A LOWER SASH OPEN, BUT IT DOES SHOW FOUR POSTS, INCLUDING LOGS, PROPPING IT UP AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SIDE STUCCO WALL AND THE OPENINGS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE SLOPE OF THE, SEE THE ROOF IS DIFFERENT AND THAT WAS A PRETTY COMMON BUILDING FORM, BUT I'M WILLING TO USE THAT AS A, THAT THE LOWER SASH WAS, WAS PRETTY COMMON.

AND I DO.

AND ANOTHER FACT I WANTED TO STATE IS THAT THE SHIP HAS KIND OF SAILED TO A LARGE DEGREE BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PRIVATE PRIOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS ON THIS CASE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AT HAND, WHICH ALLOWED THEM TO REMOVE THE WINDOWS.

AND THE SECOND APPROVAL ALLOWS REMOVAL OF THE CLIENT.

AND BASED ON THE DRAWINGS, THE CLIMBING TO THE FULL HEIGHT OF THE WINDOW, NOT JUST THE LOWER STASH, IN WHICH CASE YOU WOULD HAVE RAIN BLOWING IN AND YOU WOULD HAVE A LOWER PANEL THAT DOESN'T ALLOW DRAINAGE OF THE SLOPED FLOOR.

BUT, UH, THOSE ARE JUST FACTS.

I WANTED TO TOSS INTO THE RING FOR DISCUSSION, BUT IN THE INTERIM, I DIDN'T WANT TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND REPLACE THAT MOTION WITH A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING AND ASKED THE APPLICANT TO FURTHER DEVELOP THEIR PLANS, TO ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS MADE IN THIS MEETING.

AND I WILL, UH, AS THE SECONDARY OF THAT MOTION, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, ACCEPT THE CHANGE AS WELL.

I JUST ENCOURAGE US TO, TO NARROW THAT DOWN AND MAYBE, UH, DIRECT THE COMMISSION TO, UH, PONDER, UH, THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, BUT I SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

SO THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE, UM, AND ENCOURAGE THE OWNER TO CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE, RIGHT? AND I, AND IT'S NOT AT A LOSS TO ME THAT THERE IS SOME THAT THERE'S RISK AND INVESTMENT THAT WE ARE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO DO WITHOUT A CLEAR YES OR NO ANSWER AT THIS POINT.

BUT I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT RAILING IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AND JUSTIFICATION IN THAT RAILING, UH, SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THE EXISTING MATERIAL, UH, SECTIONS THROUGH THE ROOF EDGE, UH, THE ROOF SOFFITS AND A LITTLE MORE DETAIL SHOWING THAT AT THE VERY LEAST THAT THERE'S ENOUGH INFORMATION THERE TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN SOME HORRIBLE STORIES OF PLANS THAT LOOKED GREAT.

AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR SHOWS UP AND EVERYTHING'S RIPPED OUT AND THE BEST WAY THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DEMAND THAT HISTORIC STRUCTURE REPORT BE DONE.

WE DO NOT HAVE A SPECIALIST IN THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT TO OVERSEE HISTORIC ASPECTS OF THE PROJECTS.

SO WHILE I AGREE WITH THE CONCERNS THAT WERE STATED, UH, THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT EXECUTION, I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT EXECUTION OF PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION PROJECTS ON ALL OF OUR LANDMARKS, BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER, OVER THE PROCESS, UM, WHICH IS HOPEFULLY SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS IN THE PRESERVATION PLAN, A WORKING GROUP, UH, FOR, FOR FUTURE, UH, ADVANCEMENT.

BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S IT.

CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE RUSH? WELL, I, I, I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER COOK'S REMARKS SPECIFICALLY POINTING OUT THE TWO FACTUAL PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AT HAND.

AND I, I, I AGREE.

AND I THINK THIS IS THE POINT IS WE, WE NEED TO CONVERGE ON THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE.

AND FROM THERE WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE AN ARTICULATE DECISION AS TO WHAT PATH THAT IS GOING FORWARD.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE MOTION.

I SUPPORT THE MOTION AND WE'LL ENDEAVOR TO, UM, DO FURTHER RESEARCH TO TRY TO, UM, ADD TO OUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE BUILDING AND MAY ASK TO, UM, WELL, I JUST,

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UM, AND COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA.

I JUST WANT TO, I GUESS, UH, FOLLOW THAT BY, BY SAYING THE PRINT THAT HE'S OWNED IT UNTIL THE SEVENTIES.

SO AT LEAST UNTIL THE SEVENTIES.

SO I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE NARROW IT DOWN WITH THAT PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE IS, UM, FOR, FOR THOSE REASONS, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A FOCUS EVERY WEEKEND.

I CAN SET UP A FOCUS GROUP ON THIS TO TRY TO COME UP.

WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE HERE WHO'VE WRITTEN NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS.

WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE.

UM, AND IF I'M A VOICE, MY OPINION ON THAT, I'M A BIG STICKLER ABOUT THE RULES AND FOLLOWING THE RULES SO THAT NONE OF OUR SUBJECTIVE OPINIONS APPLY AS WE EXECUTE OUR CHARGE.

AND TO ME, IT WAS LISTED IN 19 77, 19 27.

AND BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY YOU HAVE A MORE ESTABLISHED PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE WITHIN THE HISTORIC PERIOD, BUT AS ARE THE DATE LISTED WHEN IT WAS CONSIDERED HISTORIC, UH, UNLESS WE WANT TO HAVE A MOVING TIMELINE FOR A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE TO GET AGAINST ONCE SOMETHING IS LISTED, WHICH TO ME, THAT'S THE VERY ANTITHESIS OF LANDMARKING, A PROPERTY TO PRESERVE IT.

AND POINT TIME, UH, IF WE ALLOW LATER PERIODS TO CREEP INTO THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE AFTER IT'S LISTED, THEN THAT'S ASKING FOR A LOT OF TROUBLE.

SO I, UM, AGAIN, STICKING TO THE RULES, I'M GOING TO STICK TO 1927 PERSONALLY.

AND I'M SAYING THAT TO HELP ADD SOME CLARITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS WANT TO SPEAK TO IT, BUT TO HELP ADD SOME CLARITY OVER THE NEXT MONTH IN, IN THE APPROACH ON THIS.

UH, COMMISSIONER VENEZUELA, UH, JUST, UH, TO, TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.

I THINK IF WE DO LEAVE IT AT 1927, WHICH IS, IS DEFINITELY VALID, UH, SINCE THAT IS WHEN, UM, IT WAS LISTED AT THE 50 YEAR MARK AFTER IT WAS LISTED, UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN 1927.

WE KNOW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN 1935, AND WE KNOW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN 1922, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN 1927.

UM, SO THAT, THAT PROVIDES, I GUESS, UH, ADDITIONAL RESEARCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IF, IF WE'RE STICKING TO 1927, WE'LL PONDER THAT TOO.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO GIVE THIS SOME, SOME VERY CONSIDERED THOUGHT OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

UM, IF WE DO PASS, UH, THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE AND IN THAT VEIN, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND SAYING, AYE.

THE MOTION PASSES.

WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE THIS FOR FURTHER STUDY.

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS COME HERE TONIGHT TO, UH, WEIGH IN ON THIS, UM, VERY IMPORTANT APPLICATION.

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OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION IS B3 39 0 8 AVENUE, H YOU COMMISSIONERS.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR? NO.

CAN YOU, UH, YOUR MIC IS DOWN.

CAN YOU HEAR THAT? UM, VERY LIGHTLY.

WE WILL, UH, EXCUSE ME.

SORRY.

WE WILL BE BEGINNING WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION FIRST.

OH, OKAY.

SORRY.

JUST, BUT YOU CAN SIT IN ONE OF THE FRONT ROWS HERE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK VERY FAR TO SPEAK YOUR PIECE.

CALLEN.

ALL RIGHT, THERE YOU GO.

HOW'S IT.

HOW'S THE BALL.

TO ADD A BRICK VINEYARD CHIMNEY TO THE NORTH ELEVATION, DEMOLISH A REAR SCREENED PORCH AND CONSTRUCT A TWO STORY ADDITION DIRECTLY ABOVE THE EXISTING RIDGE LINE.

UH, ITEM B THREE IS, UM, AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 39 0 8 AVENUE H UH, THE PROPOSAL IS TO ADD A FRONT PORCH CONSTRUCT, A TWO-STORY ADDITION, REPLACE THE SIDING, REPLACED THE ROOF, REPLACED ALL OF THE WINDOWS AND ADD A CHIMNEY TO A CIRCA 1953 CONTRIBUTING HOUSE, UM, AS WELL AS REPLACE THE SIDING, UM, AND INSTALL A NEW GARAGE DOOR.

UM, AND ARE THEY ALSO ADDING NEW PIERS AND COLUMNS ON THEIR FRONT PORCH? UH, YES.

SO THE PROJECT SPECIFICATIONS INCLUDE, UM, DEMOLITION OF THE FRONT OF THE RESIDENCE AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FULL WIDTH FRONT PORCH.

UM, THE PROPOSED PORCH DOES INCLUDE, UM, A GABLED ROOF SUPPORTED BY TAPER COLUMNS AND TO TALK BRICK BENEATH HER PEERS.

AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO REPLACE THE EFFECTIVE SHINGLE SIDING WITH FIBER CEMENT TO REPLACE THE COMPOSITION SHINGLE ROOF WITH NEW COMPOSITION SHINGLES, TO REPLACE ALL ORIGINAL WINDOWS WITH FOUR OF HER, ONE DOUBLE HUNG COMPOSITE WINDOWS

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UM, AND THIS EDITION, UH, INCLUDE A COMPOUND CROSS GABLED ROOF FOUR OVER ONE AND TWO OVER ONE SINGLE HUNG WINDOWS AND A COVERED BACK PORCH.

UM, AND FINALLY TO REMODEL THE GARAGE, UH, WHICH INVOLVES REPLACING THE EXISTING SIDING'S FIBER CEMENT, REPLACING THE ROOF, UH, WITH COMPOSITION SHINGLES AND ADDING A DOOR TO THE SOUTH ELEVATION.

UH, THE EXISTING HOUSE IS A ONE-STORY MINIMAL TRADITIONAL HOUSE, UH, CLOUDING ASBESTOS SHINGLES SIDING, UH, WITH A CROSS GABLED ROOF OVER A PARTIAL WIDTH INSET PORCH, UH, THAT HAS DECORATIVE METAL SUPPORTS AND HANDRAIL ADMINISTRATION INCLUDES THE TWO OVER TWO SCREENED ALUMINUM WINDOWS AND A MULTILINE ALUMINUM PICTURE WINDOW, UH, AS WELL AS AN ORIGINAL PARTIALLY GLAZED AND LOUVERED SCREEN DOOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO POSTPONE THIS CASE TO MARCH 28TH, 2022, AS THE PROJECT DOES NOT MEET MOST OF THE APPLICABLE DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, AND TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE MARCH 14TH ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING.

THIS IS, UM, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS, IS TAKING, UH, UH, OF MODEST BUNGALOW AND TRYING TO CREATE A MORE HIGH STYLE CRAFTSMAN HOUSE FROM, FROM THE ELEVATIONS.

UM, SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO POSTPONE AND INVITE THE, UH, APPLICANT, SHE, THE, UM, TO THE MARCH ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, UH, COMMITTEE.

UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK? OKAY, SIR.

UM, ARE YOU THE APPLICANT? OKAY, COME ON DOWN, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

UH, MY NAME'S STEPHEN WINDSOR, I'M THE OWNER OF 3,908 AVENUE H THIS IS THE FIRST OF THESE MEETINGS I'VE EVER BEEN TO.

AND SO IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

THE LAST CASE WAS INTERESTING.

THIS ONE, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH.

UH, YEAH, SO THIS IS A 1953 HOUSE.

I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THE OVERVIEW ALREADY.

UH, I BOUGHT IT IN 1990.

I LIVED THERE FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN IT'S BEEN A RENTAL PROPERTY FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS OR SO.

UH, BUT MY WIFE AND I NOW WANT TO MOVE INTO IT.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE IT INTO A CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOME THAT IS VERY COMMON IN HYDE PARK.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU HEARD AT A PORCH, SAME AS OUR NEIGHBOR HAS AT A SECOND FLOOR TO THE BACK HALF OF IT, WHICH IS IF YOU GO UP AND DOWN AVENUE, H YOU'LL SEE HALF OF THE HOUSES THERE ARE LIKE THAT.

AND THEN, UH, TAKE OFF THE ASBESTOS SHINGLE SIDING AND PUT A HARDY PLANK.

UM, SO AS YOU DRIVE AROUND HYDE PARK, I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY 25, UH, 25% OF THE HOUSES ARE LIKE THAT.

UH, YEAH, SO WE JUST WANT TO DO A CRAFTSMAN STYLE UPDATE.

AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ASK, I CAN ANSWER THOSE PROBABLY, UH, I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT CALLAN IS THIS, IS THIS A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY IN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT CHAIRMEN? IT IS.

SO IT, UM, IT HAS TO MEET THE, UM, DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND, UM, WHAT THE, WHAT THE STAFF, UM, MS. CONTRERAS SAID, UM, IS THAT THEY RECOMMEND POSTPONING AND INVITING YOU TO THE, UM, MARCH MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, BECAUSE IT, YOUR PLANS DON'T MEET, UM, THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

WHAT DOES IT NOT MEET? I MEAN, I'LL BE HAPPY TO MODIFY THINGS, BUT I HAVE TO KNOW, I CAN'T JUST GUESS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING, UH, IF YOU WOULD, UM, WE'RE INVITING YOU TO COME TO THAT MEETING WHERE YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET SOME MORE, UM, PERSONAL ATTENTION AND SOME HANDS-ON, UH, DESIGN, UH, ASSISTANCE IN, IN MEETING THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS ANYTHING PARTICULARLY HISTORIC ABOUT THIS HOUSE, BUT OKAY.

UH, KAREN MYERS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LET THE AFRICAN AUDIENCE KNOW THAT IN THE, UH, THE STAFF REPORT, UM, A POINT BY POINT, UH, RUNDOWN OF, UH, OUR EVALUATION WITH SIGN STANDARDS IN MIND.

UM, YOU BOTH ARE THERE, UM, FOR ANYBODY WHO NEEDS IT.

BACK THE FIRST ROUND OF COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENTS.

UH, SIR, HAVE YOU SEEN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS CASE? NO.

I JUST SUBMITTED THE, YOU KNOW, THE PACKAGE, THE WHOLE PACKAGE, AND I RECEIVED

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UH, AND SO, YEAH, I GOT THIS AS A SEPARATE, UH, PROCESS.

UH, YEAH, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK, UH, CONCERNING ANY SORT OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

THERE'S, THERE'S BACKUP ON OUR, ON OUR, UM, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK HOME SITE FOR, UM, MEETINGS AND IN, UM, IN THE VERY DETAILED LIST THAT STAFF PUT TOGETHER THAT ADDRESSES ALL THE CHANGES THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE.

AND IF THEY DO OR DO NOT MEET THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND STAFF STAFF, IF YOU CAN CONTACT STAFF, THEY CAN HELP YOU GUIDE YOU TO THAT, UM, TO THAT PARTICULAR WEBSITE AND HOW YOU CAN GET THAT INFORMATION.

I WAS NOT AWARE OF, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, UM, THE ORIGINAL EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO YOU WITH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING INFORMATION DID HAVE A LINK TO THAT WEBSITE.

UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU WERE MY MAIN POINT OF CONTACT, UH, SO YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND I CAN SEND YOU THAT LINK AGAIN.

UH, THIS PROPERTY IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE HYDE PARK, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, SO I CAN SEND YOU A LINK TO THE HIGH PARK, UH, HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS AS WELL.

SO, UM, YEAH, I'LL BE SURE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU TOMORROW.

THERE WAS A LINK IN THAT EMAIL.

OKAY, WELL, I'LL LOOK FOR THAT.

AND THEY PREPARE THOSE BEFORE, PRIOR TO OUR MEETINGS HERE, BUT, UM, BUT THERE, THIS IS PUBLIC WORK, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC INFORMATION AND YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO ACCESS IT, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME, UH, TO ATTEND THAT, UM, THAT COMMITTEE MEETING I'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WELL, WHAT IS THE DATE OF THAT? IS THAT MARCH FORTUNATELY, IT'S MARCH 14TH AT 4:30 PM.

I'LL SEND YOU, UH, MR. WINDSOR, I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION TOMORROW.

AND WE CAN TALK, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, UH, FURTHER THAN IF, UH, IF THAT'S OKAY, BUT I, I FIRST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION.

I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER HAIM.

SETH HAS A QUESTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER HAIM, SETH, UM, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

BUT JUST A STATEMENT OF, AND I THINK THAT IS AS MUCH AS WE HAVE A VERY DETAILED LIST FROM STAFF.

I THINK JUST ARCHITECTURALLY WHAT, YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE PROBABLY DEALING WITH.

YOU'VE CORRECTLY STATED THAT THERE REVISIONS IN THE BACK AND, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH SOME DISCUSSION, MANY OF THOSE HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY OUR COMMISSION IN THE PAST, BUT JUST SO YOU'LL BE AWARE, IT'S ALTERING THE FRONT APPEARANCE OF A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE THAT IS CAUSING THE BIGGEST CONCERN.

SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT AS YOU ARE BRINGING YOUR REVISIONS FORWARD, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE TRYING TO DO TO CHANGE THAT, TO MAKE IT LOOK DIFFERENTLY ARE THE VERY THINGS THAT WILL BE OUR CONCERN.

AND I THINK YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO DISSIPATE A VERY RICH CONVERSATION AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, AND IT'S MUCH MORE INFORMAL, BUT, UH, IDEALLY THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO MAKE A STRATEGIC DECISION ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO PROCEED.

I MEAN, WE JUST, WE WENT TO LOOK MORE LIKE OTHER HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GOAL.

IT'S A, IT'S A LATER PERIOD HOUSE.

IT STILL HAS A, UH, KIND OF, UM, UH, IT HAS A BUNGALOW, UH, FORM.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT THE, THE ERA OF THE HEIST HIGHER STYLE CRAFTSMAN IS ABOUT, UM, 20, 30 YEARS EARLIER THAN WHAT YOUR HOUSE IS.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE, WHAT, WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

UM, BUT, UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE LET HIM GO? I WOULD HAVE A COMMENT TO SUGGEST THAT YOUR ARCHITECT REVIEW THE HYDE PARK, HISTORIC DISTRICT STANDARDS.

UM, IT'S, UM, UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE NOT STAFFED PROPERLY TO DO THE KIND OF OUTREACH WE DO TO ARCHITECTS SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW ON A HISTORICALLY ZONE PROPERTY, BUT THERE ISN'T A VERY ESTABLISHED SET OF RULES TO FOLLOW WHEN DOING THIS DESIGN, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT MORE IN THE, IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

I'LL MOVE TO POSTPONE THE CASE TO NEXT MONTH'S MEETING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING IN TWO WEEKS.

IS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC MEETING? OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE ON THE APPLICATION,

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UH, SECOND, SECOND.

OUR NEXT CASE IS B 8 33 12 DUVALL.

COMMISSION THE COMMISSIONER CO MADE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE AIR C MEETING.

AND IT'S SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

[3.B.8. HR-2022-015467 – 3312 Duval St. – Discussion Stanley and Emily Finch House]

THIS IS A PROJECT TO, UM, REMODEL A HOUSE AND ENLARGE, UH, THE KITCHEN.

UM, ACTUALLY, IF WE CAN SHOW THE ELEVATION DRAWINGS, IS THIS THE LAND? THIS WAS AN INDIVIDUAL IS AN INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK.

THIS IS THE STANLEY AND EMILY FINCH HOUSE.

IT WAS LANDMARKED IN 2006.

UM, THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO REBUILD THE ONE-STORY CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL 1928 HISTORIC HOUSE AND THE DJ'S ADJACENT CIRCA 2003 EDITION.

SO THIS ADDITION PREDATES THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF THE HOUSE.

UM, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS RECLAD THE WALL OF THAT HYPHEN, UH, WITH STANDING SEAM ZINC, REMOVE THE PALLADIAN WINDOW THAT'S IN THE HYPHEN AND AN ENTRY DOOR AT THE ADDITION, AND, UH, INSTALL A DIVIDED LIGHT STEEL DOOR WITH AN AWNING AT THE HYPHEN AND THE WINDOW AT THE EDITION ON THE HISTORIC HOUSE.

THE PROPOSAL INVOLVES ADDING A THIRD WINDOW TO THAT SERIES OF TWO WINDOWS, UH, WITHIN THE KITCHEN AND REMOVING A SIDE ENTRY DOOR WITH A GABLED HOOD ON THE NORTH ELEVATION.

UH, THEY'RE ALSO ENLARGING THE KITCHEN TO THE SOUTH, TO THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY, AND IT WOULD BE CLAD IN SYNC, UH, SIDING WITH STEEL WINDOWS THAT ARE REMINISCENT TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE SMALL, SMALL PIECE IN THE HYPHEN.

AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS THE SYDELL VISION, BUT THAT IS ALSO A ST ELEVATION CAUSE THIS IS A CORNER LOT.

YES, THIS IS A CORNER PROPERTY.

SO THIS IS THE SIDE ELEVATION FACING 34TH STREET, UH, THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.

UM, SO IF WE COULD NOW SWITCH TO WHAT YOU WERE SHOWING EARLIER, AMBER, UM, THE STAFF REPORT, UH, SO THIS HOUSE IS ALSO RECORDED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK, AND THAT IS AN EARLIER DESIGNATION.

UH, SO THANKFULLY WE HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS FROM THAT FILE THAT SHOWED THE CONFIGURATION OF THE HOUSE BEFORE THE ADDITION WAS PUT IN PLACE.

UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT, THAT, UM, SIDE ENTRY WITH THAT, UM, IT, I THINK MIGHT BE AN OVERSTATEMENT TO CALL IT A PORCH, BUT, UH, THE STOOP WITH THE SMALL GABLED ROOF, UM, WAS AN EXISTENCE.

AND SO STAFF BELIEVES THIS TO BE A, UM, HISTORIC FEATURE OF THE HOUSE.

UM, OVERALL THIS PROJECT, UM, MEETS THE STANDARDS.

UM, I PARTICULARLY APPRECIATE THE GREATER DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE ADDITION, UH, THE DELINEATION OF THAT HYPHEN AS A MORE MODERN ELEMENT RATHER THAN POTENTIALLY CONFUSED AND GET WITH A FO HISTORIC FEATURES.

UM, SO ON THE WHOLE, I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY THOUGHTFUL DESIGN.

UH, THE ONE CONCERN AND THE REASON I PUT IT FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS THE REMOVAL OF THAT, UH, SIDE ENTRY, UH, BEING A STREET FACING HISTORIC ELEMENT TO THE HOUSE, UM, THAT I FOUND CONCERNING.

IT CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE.

AND I BELIEVE THE, UM, THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK TO WHY THEY'RE PROPOSING THIS FROM AN INTERIOR CIRCULATION PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT IS A HISTORIC FEATURE THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.

THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL AND MARK AND IT'S RECORDED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK.

DID THE APPLICANTS KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO, UM, SEEK PERMISSION OF THE TEXAS HISTORICAL? I BELIEVE SO.

UM, SO THE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO POSTPONE TO THE MARCH 28TH MEETING TO ALLOW TIME FOR CONSIDERATION OF ALTERNATIVES THAT, UM, COULD POTENTIALLY RETAIN, OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER DIRECTIONS FOR THE PROJECT, UM, TO CONSIDER RETENTION OF THIS, UM, HISTORIC ELEMENT.

UH, I WILL NOTE THAT I HAD SOME COMMUNICATION WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND THEY'RE UNAVAILABLE.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY YOU'VE SCHEDULED THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE BEGINNING OF SPRING BREAK.

AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGING DATE, I THINK, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

UM, SO I WOULD ASK THAT AND YOUR, IN YOUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, UM, IF YOU, IF YOU DO MAKE THIS POSTPONE AND IF YOU COULD GIVE VERY CLEAR DIRECTION TO STAFF, UM, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH THE ARCHITECT AND THE OWNER AND SEE IF WE CAN ARRIVE AT A SOLUTION FOR THIS.

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ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BERMAN? OKAY.

UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? OKAY.

COME ON DOWN.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER SANDERS AND I'M THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU, ELIZABETH.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMMUNICATING WITH US OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS.

AND YOU KNOW, IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT, UH, AT THE, THE MEETING FALLS DURING SPRING BREAK.

SO WE WERE HOPING TONIGHT THAT WE COULD GET SOME FEEDBACK AND BE THERE.

YOU HAVE TO BE THERE.

I TALKED TO MY KIDS ABOUT THAT.

UM, SO AS THE ARCHITECT OF, UH, 33 12 DEVOLVE, I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE DESIGN IS PRESENTED IN OUR EFFORT TO EXPAND THE EXISTING CONDITION, TO MEET OUR CLIENT'S GOALS.

WE RE WE RELOCATED THE SIDE DOOR, KITCHEN ENTRANCE, FURTHER WEST ON THE 34TH STREET FACADE.

I SHOULD SAY THAT I LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT 34TH STREET FACADE FOR 10 YEARS.

I LOVE THIS HOUSE.

UM, THE DOOR HAS REDESIGNED MAINTAINS THE SAME RELATIONSHIP TO THE KITCHEN'S FUNCTIONAL INTERIOR AS THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTS DESIGN, WHILE ALLOWING FOR ENLARGEMENT OF THE SPACE WHEN EXPANDING THE KITCHEN, WE'RE PROPOSING A SUBTLE CHANGE OF MATERIALS AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND A LESS THOUGHTFUL ADDITION FROM THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.

THIS CHANGE OF MATERIAL WHILE MEETING THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS AND CORRECTING SOME ILL-CONCEIVED FENESTRATION ON THE NORTH FACADE, DOESN'T RENDER THE DOOR LOCATION APPROPRIATE TO RELOCATE THE DECORATIVE AWNING.

INSTEAD WE'VE DESIGNED A SMALL AWNING, MORE UPROAR APPROPRIATE FOR THE MATERIALITY AND THE LOCATION OF THE NEW DOOR.

AND IF INCORPORATED A SUBTLE NOD TO THE GENERAL CURVES OF THE EXISTING AWNING AND THE BAY WINDOW SLIGHTLY FURTHER TO THE EAST, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER ALLOWING THE RELOCATION OF THE DOOR AND REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING AWNING, LEAVING THE DOOR AND ITS EXISTING LOCATION, RENDERS THE KITCHEN LESS EFFICIENT AND WOULD FORCE MORE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO THE EXISTING FOUNDATIONS AND TO MAKE THE CONNECTION TO THE WESTERN MOST PORTIONS OF THE HOUSE, OUR DESIGN HAS EVOLVED, UM, IN CONSIDERATION OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE HOME.

OUR CLIENTS LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY LOVE THE HOME AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE KITCHEN, I THINK ALLOWS THEM TO BE A STEWARD, UH, OF THIS HOME, UH, INTO THE FUTURE.

SO WE, WE DO HAVE SOME DRAWINGS, I BELIEVE IF WE COULD BRING THOSE BACK UP AND I BELIEVE THE LAST COUPLE OF DRAWINGS HERE SHOW KIND OF THE RELATIONSHIP.

IF YOU KEEP GOING, OH, YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE DRAWINGS.

WELL, THIS IS A RENDERING.

WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT.

IT'S A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE 34TH STREET FACADE, THE NORTH FACADE OF THE HOUSE ON THE TOP AS EXISTING, AND THEN OUR PROPOSED, UH, RENDERING ON THE BOTTOM.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, THE HYPHEN, UM, UH, CLEARLY DESIGNATES THE NIGHT, 1928 STRUCTURE ON THE LEFT, ON THE EAST, FROM THE STRUCTURE FROM THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS ON THE WEST.

UM, IF YOU NOTE IN THE, IN THE PHOTOGRAPH, OKAY, HERE WE GO.

THIS SPACE LABELED EXISTING DEN ON THE WESTERN SIDE, UH, THERE IS A STEP UP IN THE SLAB THERE THAT'S LIMITS OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, CIRCULATION BACK TO THAT WESTERN SPACE.

SO IF YOU GO BACK, SO, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WAS AN AWNING ADDED IN, IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, UM, ON THIS EDITION, ON THE RIGHT-HAND PORTION OF THE PHOTOGRAPH AND KIND OF, UH, AN ODDLY PLACE PALLADIAN WINDOW THAT WE'RE HOPING TO, YOU KNOW, CORRECT SOME OF THESE ODDITIES OF THE ADDITION, YOU KNOW, UH, DECORATIVE AWNING, UH, IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS EDITION, CERTAINLY, UH, I THINK DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, IS OUT OF PLACE.

UM, SO IF WE GO TO THE PLAN HERE IN RED, THIS IS THE EXISTING FLOOR PLAN.

IT'S DASH IT'S THE DEMO PLAN YOU CAN SEE IN THE KITCHEN THERE, THE ISLAND AND THE SINK JUST FOR, UH, PLACING YOURSELF IN THE SPACE.

AND THEN THERE'S THE EXISTING DOOR ALLOWS FOR CIRCULATION TO THE WEST PLAN LEFT AND THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THERE'S A CERTAIN EFFICIENCY OF THE LOCATION OF THAT DOOR IN CIRCULATION.

AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PLAN, PLEASE, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED NEW KITCHEN, THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE DOOR, AND THE CIRCULATION REMAINS EXACTLY THE SAME.

UM, AND THAT'S REALLY BECAUSE

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SO THE CIRCULATION REALLY EXISTS ALONG THE NORMAL NORTH FACADE.

SO I, MY FIVE MINUTES IS PROBABLY UP, BUT, UH, UH, WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THESE STRONGS AND KIND OF EXPRESS HOW WE ARRIVED AT, AT OUR DESIGN SOLUTION.

HERE'S YOUR FIVE MINUTES RIGHT? ON THE NOSE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, IS THERE ANY REASON STRUCTURALLY WHY THE EXTERIOR DOOR WITH GABE BLIP FOR THE ORIGINAL BACK PORCH COULDN'T REMAIN STRICTLY AS A FACADE WALLED OVER ON THE INSIDE OR AN ODDLY PLACED WINDOW IN A PANTRY? WELL, THE REASON IT'S WE MOVED IT AS AN ODDLY, WE, I MEAN, IT COULD BE AN ODDLY PLACED ENTRY.

UM, AND I GUESS FIRST, SO WHEN WE REVIEW LANDMARKS, WE OWN THE REVIEW, THE EXTERIOR, WE REVIEWED NOTHING ON THE INTERIOR.

SO IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THAT DOOR COULDN'T REMAIN IN THE WALL WITH THE GABE LIT AND SIMPLY SKINNED OVER ON THE INSIDE WITH, WITH DRYWALL OR, OR A MILLWORK AND COVERED UP ON THE INSIDE? THERE'S NO FUNCTIONAL OTHER, OTHER THAN A PAINTING YOU AS AN ARCHITECT, APPRECIATE IT.

THERE'S, THERE'S NO REASON THAT THAT COULD NOT BE DONE STRUCTURALLY.

I AM LOATH TO LOSE THAT ELEMENT AND I THINK IT, IT, IT BALANCES, UM, IT PROVIDES BALANCE.

IT'S A CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE, UM, THE BALANCE WITH THE BAY, UH, THE BAY WINDOW, UH, FURTHER EAST.

UM, YEAH, I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THAT GO AWAY.

UM, SO THAT'S KINDA MY, MY TAKE ON IT.

UH, THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA.

COMMISSIONER HAIM, SETH.

UM, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THIS IS A STATE LANDMARK AND WILL ALSO REQUIRE STATE REVIEW HAS, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS YET.

DO WE KNOW WHO BASICALLY WHO, WHO GETS TO DECIDE FIRST AND NO, NO, WE HAVE NOT.

WE HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

BUT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH, THIS IS RECORDED, TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK PRETTY MUCH MEANS WHEN YOU GET THAT DESIGNATION, THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN PERPETUITY.

YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY, THEY WILL PROBABLY BE MORE STRINGENT THAN WE WOULD, EVEN ON THAT ONE.

I WOULD LIKE COMMISSIONER COOK, THINK THAT, UH, RETAINING THAT ELEMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

IF THAT DOOR WERE CHANGED OUT SOMEHOW TO THE WINDOW AND ACTUALLY INTEGRATED INTO THE KITCHEN, MAYBE YOU COULD REARRANGE WHERE THE PANTRY WAS.

THAT THAT'S WHAT I KEPT THINKING.

BUT EVEN THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SOME SERIOUS CONVERSATION.

UH, CERTAINLY WHEN YOU GOT TO THE STATE, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, THEY GET NERVOUS WHEN THE NON-ARCHITECT SPEAKS HERE AT THE WE BOW, WE DEFER TO YOUR EXPERTISE.

I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT I, IN MY EXPERIENCE, WORKING WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, YOU'VE GOT A LARGE HILL TO CLIMB HERE AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THAT, THAT ROUTE FIRST COMMISSIONER, UM, CAROLINE COMMISSIONER.

CAROLINE.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, IN THE CASE OF RECORDING TEXAS HISTORICAL LANDMARKS, WE AS THE CITY, HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION HAVE MORE AUTHORITY THAN THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION DOES IN THEIR REVIEW PROCESS FOR, UM, FOR OUR CHANGES TO TWO PROPERTIES, THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT GIVE THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UM, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, MUCH MORE POWER.

UM, BUT IN THIS CASE, THIS, THIS REVIEW AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY HAS MORE POWER AND MORE SO WE CAN'T PASS THE BUCK.

CORRECT.

AND, AND YOU DO WORK FOR THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, DO YOU NOT, DO YOU NOT REVIEW RTA GELS, BUT I DO OTHERWISE WORK FOR THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

SO YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME INSIDE SCOOP ON THAT.

UM, BUT NELLY SHARE MYERS, UH, IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY FOR COMMISSIONER.

BE IRRELEVANT TO THEIR CONVERSATION IF IT WAS BROUGHT AND SAID AT THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION IN AUSTIN ALREADY? I BELIEVE IT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ISSUING A PERMIT HERE.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING THOUGH, IS THAT WE'LL SEE IF THEY STILL HAVE THE REVIEW.

THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE TEETH THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THEIR APPROVAL, BUT MY GUESS IS THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE MORE STRINGENT WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

WOULD THAT BE A FAIR STATEMENT? WHETHER, WHETHER THEY HAVE THE RIGHT OF THAT, I THINK THAT THEY THOUGHT THOSE REVIEWERS WOULD COME TO A SIMILAR DECISION THAT WE WOULD COME TO.

AND WOULD IT BE, I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE CONVERSATION THAT'S THAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR? YEAH.

W WOULD IT, WOULD OUR DECISIONS

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AND THE UN FOR RTA GILES, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UM, ONLY HAS AUTHORITY TO SAY WHAT THEY FEEL SHOULD BE DONE.

THEY DO NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO SAY NO TO A PROJECT, UM, BEING COMPLETED, HOWEVER IT'S PRESENTED TO THEM OR, UH, IN TERMS OF BIKE, THE ONLY THING THEY COULD REALLY DO IF THEY WERE THAT UPSET WOULD BE YANKED THE DESIGNATION.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME FINANCIAL, UM, REQUIREMENTS THAT COULD BE IMPOSED IF THE RULES WEREN'T FOLLOWED IN REGARDS TO THE TIMING OF APPLICATIONS, THE MIDDLES, BUT THE RULES FOR OUR THL REQUIRE THAT, UM, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION BE NOTIFIED OF ANY PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN A GIVEN AMOUNT OF TIME PERIOD, AS LONG AS THEY MEET THAT GIVEN AMOUNT OF TIME PERIOD, UH, THEY CAN GO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO.

AND, AND YES, IN THAT CASE, MAYBE THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION COULD, UH, REVOKE THE DESIGNATION, BUT THAT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY BECAUSE I THINK WE WOULD TYPICALLY THE AGENCY WOULD TYPICALLY RATHER HAVE SOME AUTHORITY OVER THE PROPERTY THAN KNOW COURTING THE PROPERTY.

REALLY APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION THAT THE ONUS IS BACK ON US, UH, MORE OR LESS.

BUT ANYWAY, YOU STILL NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

YES, SIR.

ONE MORE, TWO MORE, BUT ME DID, I THINK YOU MUST HAVE FELT THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ISSUE.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ALTERNATIVES TO THE PANTRY AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SUGGESTED WE HAVE, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE COMPROMISES, OF COURSE, UH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, MY ATTENDANCE HERE IS FOR THIS DISCUSSION AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

I KNOW THAT WE'LL ARRIVE AT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ACCEPTABLE.

UM, SO YES, IS THE SHORT ANSWER.

THE LONG ANSWER IS, YOU KNOW, IT WON'T BE WHAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ARRIVED AT WITH OUR CLIENTS, YOU KNOW, TO WORK FOR THEIR PROGRAM.

SO IT'LL JUST BE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE THIS FEEDBACK AND, AND COME BACK WITH ANOTHER STORY.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MY EARLIER REMARKS ABOUT THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

I HAD NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THE RESIDENTIAL AND ON THE COMMERCIAL END, I HAD BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END OF THE REVIEWER.

SO NO PROBLEM AS CAROLYN KNOWS, UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.

YOU DON'T GET TO REBUT YOURSELF.

SO THANK YOU MUCH.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

THAT WAS MOVED IN SECOND AND BY COOK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

UH, OKAY.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BACK DOOR AND GAVE LIT.

UM, AND IF THE APPLICANT CHOOSES TO RETAIN THE EXTERIOR EXTERIOR APPEARANCE, THAT OUTDOOR CABLING AND DOOR, THAT WOULD MEAN THE, THE PROJECT WOULD BE APPROVED COMMISSIONER.

IS THAT A SECOND? I THINK THAT'S THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, RIGHT.

THAT'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COOK SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW.

I ALSO APPRECIATED THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE HYPHEN AND CLARIFYING THE FORM OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.

I THINK IT'S A INVENTIVE AND A REALLY NICE WAY TO, TO ADDRESS THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YES, COMMISSIONER.

I HAD THE EXACT SAME IDEA AS, AS COMMISSION, AS A COMMISSIONER COOK DID AND LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION.

UM, IT'S A, IT SEEMS LIKE A WEIRD SOLUTION TO HIDE A DOOR ON THE INSIDE.

UM, BUT THERE, BUT, BUT IT MAKES THE PERFECT SOLUTION FOR A PROPERTY LIKE THIS.

WE SEE IN THE, IN THE PROGRAM THAT I DO REVIEW AT THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, WE SEE INTERIOR FEATURES TREATED THIS WAY FREQUENTLY AS BUILDINGS ARE REPURPOSED, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE DOORKNOB OFF ON THE OUTSIDE, PUT A PLAN IN FRONT OF US.

SO PEOPLE NOT KNOW NOT TO GO THERE AND MOVE THE SIDEWALK.

UM, AND IT BECOMES A REASONABLE SOLUTION TO, UM, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS ISSUE, I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THAT IT IS JUST THIS LITTLE ENTRANCE HOOD AND THERE'S, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COLUMNS, THE ENTRANCE HOOD WITH THE, WITH THE BRACKETS

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UNDERNEATH.

UM, THIS WOULD BE AN IDEAL CASE TO, UH, TO TREAT THAT WAY.

UM, WE'RE NOT LOSING A FULL PORCH OR SOMETHING, SO, UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY, AYE, RAISE YOUR HANDS.

YEAH, WE DIDN'T POSTPONE IT.

WE PASSED MADAM CHAIR BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO SOME, UM, SPEAKERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BY PHONE.

SO WOULD YOU MIND IF I CALL THE SPEAKERS FROM HERE ON OUT SHIRT? GO AHEAD.

[3.C.1. HR-2022-001198 – 804 Rutherford Pl. – Discussion (postponed January 24, 2022) Travis Heights – Fairview Park National Register District]

UM, OUR NEXT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEMS C ONE, IS THAT CORRECT? 8 0 4 RATHER FOR PLACE.

TERMITES ITEM C.

ONE IS, UH, A, AN APPLICATION IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK, A NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UH, THIS PROPOSAL IS TO DEMOLISH A CONTRIBUTING DUPLEX AND A DETACHED CARPORT, AND TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE WITH A POOL AND A TWO-STORY CABANA.

UM, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME YOU'LL HAVE SEEN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

UM, THE PROJECT, UH, SPECIFIES TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING DUPLEX AND CARPORT, AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION WITH A NEW SINGLE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH A POOL AND A TWO-STORY CABANA, THE PROPOSED PRIMARY BUILDING.

IT'S TWO STORIES WITH A HABITABLE ATTIC AND ROOF DECK.

IT FEATURES ON A REGULAR FLAT GABLED AND SHED ROOF LINE, FIXED PANE AND CASEMENT, FULL LIGHT FENESTRATION, AND IRREGULAR PATTERN, STUCCO CLADDING, AND A FRONT FACING GARAGE.

THE CABANA IS TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT WITH STUCCO CLADDING, A GABLED ROOF LINE AND FIXED PANE WINDOWS ON TWO ELEVATIONS, THE WEST AND SOUTH, UH, SECONDARY ELEVATIONS OR WINDOW LISTS.

THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE EXISTING DUPLEX, UH, WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, IN THE 2028, TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION.

UM, AS THE ONLY EXAMPLE OF A REPRESENTATIVE DOMESTIC PROPERTY CONSTRUCTED WITH THIS PARTICULAR MIXED ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, UM, THIS UNIQUE ECLECTICISM INCLUDES MISSION TUTOR, REVIVAL, AND SWIFT INFLUENCES NOTABLY THE BUILDING AT 8 0 6 RUTHERFORD PLACE IS CONSTRUCTED WITH A SIMILAR PLAN FORM AND FENESTRATION PATTERN THOUGH 8 0 6, RATHER PURCHASE ONLY MISSION INFLUENCE.

SO IT'S 8 0 6 WITH CONSTRUCTION IN 1925 BY THE AUSTIN REAL ESTATE ABSTRACT COMPANY.

UM, AND 8 0 3, UH, WITH CONSTRUCTED BY THE SAME COMPANY IN 1925 AND ALSO DISPLAY SIMILAR MISSION STYLING TO 8 0 6.

UM, AND THAT ADDRESS IS LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND 8 0 4 BROTHER REPLACE THE DUPLEX AT EIGHT OR FOUR.

RATHER FRUIT PLACE WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1931 BY X-RAY SALESMAN, ARCHIE DE ALLEY, ALONG THE GARAGE, ARCHIE AND HILDA ALLEY, AS WELL AS, UH, ARCHIE ALLEYS, ANOTHER AND THEIR SON ARCHIE JR.

LIVED NEXT DOOR AT 8 0 6 RUTHERFORD.

UH, AS I SAID, 8 0 6 RUTHERFORD WAS CONSTRUCTION IN 1925 BY THE AUSTIN REAL ESTATE AND ABSTRACT COMPANY WHO DEVELOPED NUMEROUS PROPERTIES AND TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND SOUTH AUSTIN, THE ALLEY FAMILY CHOSE A SIMILAR FORM FOR THEIR RENTAL PROPERTY AT 8 0 4 RUTHERFORD.

SO IT'S DECORATIVE DETAILS AND STYLISTIC ECLECTICISM ARE MARKEDLY MORE ELABORATE THAN THOSE OF ITS EARLIER NEIGHBOR 8 0 4 REMAINED RENTAL PROPERTY THROUGHOUT THE 20TH CENTURY.

NOTABLE OCCUPANTS INCLUDED PHYSICIAN ROBERT BRADDON AND DSB AND BELMONT HILL.

SO FORMERLY A FARMER AND A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER WAS AN AUSTIN BROKER IN POLITICIAN.

UM, AND HE ALSO CHAIRED THE DELICACY TO THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION DURING HIS TENANCY AT 8 0 4 RUTHERFORD PLACE, WHICH WAS UNFORTUNATELY CUT SHORT DUE TO HIS DEATH BY CAR ACCIDENT IN 1946, AFTER ARCHIE ALI JR.

HIS DEATH IN WORLD WAR II, THE ALLEY FAMILY APPEARS TO HAVE SOLD BOTH TRAVIS HEIGHTS, PROPERTIES, METAL AIRPLANE FIELDS, AND ZILKER PARK WAS NAMED IN ALLIE'S HONOR.

UM, JEFF HAS EVALUATED THE NEW CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT MEETS FEW APPLICABLE STANDARDS, UM, OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.

UM, THE PROPERTY CONTRIBUTES TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

UM, AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE BUILDING'S ASSOCIATION TO TB HILL AND THE ALLEY FAMILY'S CONTRIBUTIONS DO HISTORIC SETTLEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS ARE SUFFICIENT FOR INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING.

SO THE COMMISSION DECIDED AGAINST INITIATION, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING A DEMOLITION DELAY OF UP TO 180 DAYS PER CODE SO THAT THE APPLICANT MAY EXPLORE AND EVALUATE ALTERNATIVES TO DEMOLITION.

DID THE COMMISSION DECIDE AGAINST THE DELAY? A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO COMMENT ON AND RELEASE THE PLAN AND RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN

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DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT OR YOU THE APPLICANT? UM, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

GO TO UNION OH, I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNER.

UM, I TOLD HIM THAT IF HE WERE TO DEMOLISH HIS HOUSE, THAT HE SHOULD BUILD A COMPATIBLE HOUSE, BUT GO TO YOUR ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION AND WITH HIS ARCHITECT AND PUT SOME COMPATIBLE AT TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND JUST THOSE BOXES OR WHATEVER.

AND THAT'S AN OPTION HERE AS THE OWNER HERE.

IF YOU NEED TO TALK TO HIM, I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO TALK TO THE OWNER, HAVE THE OWNER SPEAK ON THIS.

OH, HE'S RIGHT HERE.

AND, AND YOUR, UM, YOUR, THE, UH, DEMOLITION? UH, YEAH.

WE'RE TRYING TO DEMO THE HOUSE AND PUT INSTEAD OF A DUPLEX ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH HOMEOWNERS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. AVILA? WE HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN AWHILE.

UM, ZONE ARE COMING OKAY.

APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO BE SPEAKING TONIGHT, BUT THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS NASH GARRISON.

I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY I'VE LIVED IN AND RENOVATED OTHER PROPERTIES IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS, OTHER CRAFTSMEN HOMES OF THE SAME AGE.

AND THIS PROPERTY ITSELF IS ITS INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST TOO FAR GONE TO BE SAVED ON THE INSIDE.

IT MIGHT LOOK OKAY FROM THE OUTSIDE AND SOME OF THE PICTURES, IT LOOKS PRETTY DECENT, BUT FROM THE FOUNDATION TO THE ROOF LINE, IT IS FAILING AND WE ARE HOPING WE CAN DEMO THIS PROPERTY AND BUILD SOMETHING NEW THAT WHILE MAY NOT BE TOTALLY IN LINE WITH OTHER CRAFTSMAN HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS IN LINE WITH OTHER HOMES ON THIS STREET, OTHER NEW CONSTRUCTION HOMES WITH PITCHED ROOFS, WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL IT CONTEMPORARY CRAFTSMEN.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH.

THAT'S KIND OF A STRETCH CONTEMPORARY.

I KNOW THE OTHER HOMES ON THIS STREET, BUT, UM, IN ANY EVENT, UH, THANK YOU.

UM, IS THAT IT? YEAH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE HONOR? I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, IS THERE ANY PROMINENT CRACKING, USUALLY A MASON REBUILDING WITH A FAILING FOUNDATION.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO READ IT PRETTY IMMEDIATELY.

I DO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF CEILING ON SOME STAIR-STEP CRACKS.

WE'VE GOT CRACKS ON THE EXTERIOR, THE EXTERIOR BRICK ON THE INTERIOR.

THERE'S, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT.

WE'VE GOT PECAN TREES THAT BORDER, BOTH SIDES OF PROPERTY ON THE EAST AND WEST.

AND THEY ARE STARTING TO THOSE ROOTS, STARTING TO PUSH UP AND MESS WITH THE FOUNDATION, WHICH IS OLD PIER AND BEAM.

AND SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A WHOLE BUNCH SHIFTING.

I WAS JUST GOING TO FOLLOW UP.

UM, YOU HAD, HAS YOUR CONCERN OF THE STRUCTURE BEEN VERIFIED BY ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL REPORT OR RESEARCH BY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER BY A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER AS WELL AS TWO DIFFERENT FOUNDATION COMPANIES.

WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE TASTEFUL AND GOING TO FIT IN WITH OTHER NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR BACKUP AT THIS POINT.

HAVE YOU SUBMITTED THAT TO THE CITY? UH, IT, IT, IF IT WASN'T A, IN THE PACKAGE, THEN MY, MY BUILDER DID NOT SUBMIT IT NOW.

I THINK WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE DEMO PERMIT, WE DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO GET, UH, WE'RE GOING TO GET FLAGGED BY THE STORK LANDMARK COMMISSION.

HE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS WAS A HISTORIC BUILDING AND THAT IT, WELL, IT'S AN OLD BUILDING, BUT IT'S NOT HISTORIC.

I MEAN, THERE'S MANY OTHER HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT ARE GETTING DEMOLITION PERMITS, AND I CAN SPEAK TO TWO ON THIS STREET AND TWO OTHERS THAT ARE ONE OTHER IT'S ON THIS LIST TONIGHT, BUT THIS IS JUST OLD.

DOESN'T MEAN IT'S HISTORIC, IT'S AN ECLECTIC MIX OF ARCHITECTURE AND IT'S CALLED SWISS BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME ROOF TRIM AND IT'S CALLED SWISS AND IT'S GOT A SMALL WINDOW, SO IT'S CALLED HACIENDA OR MISSION.

AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER.

AND THE FACT THAT IT'S FALLING DOWN, IT'S BEYOND REPAIR.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST AT A POINT WHERE WE DON'T KNOW, WE CAN'T COMMIT THE CAPITAL TO FIX THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THE RENTS ARE GOING TO JUSTIFY IT.

SO IT'S JUST GOING TO SIT IN DISREPAIR.

AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PUT SOMETHING NEW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE LOOK AND FEEL OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

GRANTED IT'S CHANGING, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, BE STEWARDS OF THAT CHANGE.

AND THEN JUST NOT PUT UP A MODERN WHITE BOX.

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I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THIS PROJECT IS DESIGNATED AS HISTORICAL.

IT IS DESIGNATED AS CONTRIBUTING TO THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK, NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

AND JUST ONE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION, UH, IS THE OWNER, UH, HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THIS PROPERTY? UH, ROUGHLY EIGHT MONTHS.

SO, SO YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE STATUS IN THE LAND, IN THE LANDMARKS.

OH, IT WASN'T UNTIL WE APPLIED FOR A DEMO PERMIT.

NO, THIS WAS ACTUALLY SINGLED OUT IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION, UH, FOR ITS STYLE AND, UM, DESIGN.

SO THAT MAY BE THE CASE, BUT I MEAN, WE WEREN'T, HOW WOULD WE HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE, RIGHT.

I GUESS THIS IS HOW, UM, LIKE PERMIT OR YOU'VE DONE YOUR RESEARCH BY THE REALTOR.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO IF SOMEONE STOPPED BY TO GET FROM THE STATE OF SURE.

YEAH, THE BUILDING VACANT RIGHT NOW, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE IT TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE.

WOULD YOU BE VOLUNTEERING FOR THAT? OKAY.

GOOD.

UM, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION REQUEST? OKAY.

ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? MADAM CHAIR.

DO YOU MIND IF I CALL SPEAKERS? GO AHEAD.

UM, SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION, THE FIRST PERSON WE HAVE REGISTERED IN PERSON IS CLIFTON LAD.

MY NAME IS CLIFTON LAND.

I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE.

IT REPRESENTS NEVERMIND.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LIKE THIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, UH, DESIGNED FOR TWO FAMILIES.

UH, WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE IN AUSTIN.

THERE'S I JUST WOULD IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS CAREFULLY, THIS, THIS HOUSE IS UNLIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. LAD, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ANY, GO AHEAD, AMBER.

OUR SECOND SPEAKER SIGNED UP IS MELANIE MARTINEZ.

I'M MELANIE MARTINEZ AND I'M A RESIDENT OF THE FAIRVIEW PARK, TRAVIS HEIGHTS, HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND I'M OPPOSED TO THE DEMOLITION OF THIS DUPLEX.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE CHARACTER OF IT IS, UH, IT'S REALLY UNFORGETTABLE.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE HOUSES THAT YOU DRIVE BY AND YOU'RE JUST CHARMED IMMEDIATELY.

I, I THINK, UM, THE OWNERS ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT HAVING THE MONEY TO DO THE REPAIRS.

IF THEY COULD DO THE REPAIRS.

IF, IF THEY BECAME LANDMARK OR WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THERE ARE BENEFITS THAT THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT MIGHT HELP THEM KEEP THIS DUPLEX AND BRING IN INCOME FOR THEM.

AND, UM, I WOULD REALLY HOPE THAT ANYTHING POSSIBLE COULD BE DONE TO TRY TO SAVE THIS UNIQUE BUILDING THAT WE LOVE SO MUCH.

BECAUSE I HAD, UH, A SCHEMATIC THERE WHERE THE PROPERTY TAXES I MADE, THE, THE IMPROVEMENT VALUE IS DOUBLED FROM 2020 TO 2021, SO THAT THE PROPERTY TAXES ROSE SO MUCH ON THIS PROPERTY, THAT LANDLORDS ARE GETTING OUT.

THE NEXT SPEAKER, WE HAVE AN OPPOSITION AS A MISS PAULA KAUFMANN.

HI, I'M PAULA COPELAND.

I AM ALARMED BY THE NUMBER OF MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING SLATED FOR DEMOLITION JUST TO NIGHT OLDER BUILDINGS IN CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOODS ON KEYS EAST 45TH ON EAST FIFTH AND 8 0 4 RUTHERFORD PLACE.

IT'S LISTED AS A DUPLEX, BUT I COUNTED SIX MAILBOXES WHEN I WALKED PAST THERE IT'S ONE OF THOSE VERSATILE OLD BUILDINGS THAT HAD TO PROVIDE SHELTER TO A VARIETY OF HOUSEHOLDS, LIKELY MARKET AFFORDABLE.

THAT IS NO SUBSIDY NEEDED.

NOW I HEAR THAT MR. ADLER IS PROPOSING A $500 MILLION BOND FOR HOUSING.

THAT WILL CAUSE MORE HOMELESSNESS.

THIS, THESE, I THINK THAT SOME OF THESE LANDLORDS AND THIS HOUSE SOLD IN MAY, 2021,

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AND WE ARE LOSING A LOT OF OUR MARKET RATE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I THINK BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO, UM, WE LOOKED AT BOTH 8 0 4 RUTHERFORD PLAYS AN 8 0 6 RUTHERFORD PLACE, SIMILAR THAT 8 0 6 ARE THERE FOR PLACES FOR SALE.

NOW IT'S A DUPLEX.

SO WE'RE LOSING AT LEAST FIVE HOUSEHOLDS RIGHT NOW, BUT BECAUSE OF THIS NEW HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION, THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CERTAIN TAX BENEFITS THAT COULD HELP THEM TO AFFORD TO RENOVATE AND ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY ON RENTING IT OUT.

SO I HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO SRC ARE AWARE OF THIS NEW TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK, NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORK WITH THE HISTORIC COMMISSION SO THAT YOU ACTUALLY CAN GET THE BENEFITS AND RESTORE THE PROPERTY.

BECAUSE AS MY COMMITTEE MEMBER, CLIFF LAD SAID BEFORE THAT DEVELOPERS ARE LEARNING THAT THEY ACTUALLY MAKE MORE PROFIT WHEN THEY RENOVATE A HISTORIC STRUCTURE THAN WHEN THEY RES START OVER.

SO, UM, I HOPE THAT THE CITY REALLY THINKS ABOUT GETTING SOME INCENTIVES FOR THESE LANDLORDS IN THESE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM AFFORD, TO KEEP THEIR PROPERTIES AND KEEP THAT DIVERSITY THAT WE HAVEN'T TRAVIS HEIGHT, THAT WE LOVE SO MUCH PEOPLE CAN WALK TO WORK.

PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE CAN LIVE THERE.

AND THESE TYPES OF DEMOLITIONS ARE GREAT, ARE CHANGING AT FIRST FIXED.

THANK YOU, MS. GUZMAN.

THE NEXT SPEAKER, WE HAVE AN OPPOSITION IS A MS. NANCY MCINTOSH.

WHAT ELSE COULD HELP US AT THIS POINT? UM, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY LOVELY RESTORATIONS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

MY NAME IS NANCY MCCLINTOCK AND I LIVE ON RUTHERFORD PLACE.

I'VE LIVED ON WEATHERFORD PLACE FOR 30 YEARS, AND IN FACT, I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS HOME.

SO IT IS PERSONAL, BUT OF COURSE IT'S, IT'S MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT.

AND EVERY TIME I SEE A DUPLEX, THIS ONE WAS CALLED AN APARTMENT HOUSE, UH, OR A SMALL BUNGALOW BEING DEMOLISHED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND USUALLY REPLACED BY A MUCH BIGGER HIGH-END HOME.

I SEE A LOSS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I SEE A LOSS OF DIVERSITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS TRAGIC.

AND I SEE A MORE DECLINING ENROLLMENT IN OUR LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS ALSO A VERY BIG ISSUE FOR US AS YOU'VE SEEN THE PROPERTY IN MANY OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN ME.

IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE.

UH, I REALLY LOVE IT.

EVERYBODY LOVES IT.

IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY THE HISTORICAL GYM ON OUR STREET, WHICH IS A VERY SHORT STREET, BY THE WAY.

UM, AND AS SOMEBODY ELSE ALREADY MENTIONED THE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR, I THINK, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT, SINCE YOUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING WENT UP FOR SALE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S UNDER CONTRACT.

SO IF BOTH OF THESE HOMES WERE DEMOLISHED AND SOMETHING LIKE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, UH, REPLACES THEM, THEN IT REALLY WOULD, UH, COMPLETELY TRANSFORM OUR STREET.

WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT, I THINK ABOUT 14 HOUSES ON THIS STREET.

SO THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

UM, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T HEARD, OR IT'S NOT A PARENT WHO MADE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN, CERTAINLY NOT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS OR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR WITH THE, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE OF THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO I JUST WONDER IF ANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS COULD HAVE MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS SO THAT THE BUILDING WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE DEMOLISHED OR THAT EVEN SOME SMALL PART OF IT COULD BE PRESERVED.

I, I, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T MY FIELD, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD BE POSSIBLE, BUT IF EVEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STREET FACING FACADE OR JUST, JUST SOMETHING, OR IF, IF THERE COULD BE A PROPOSED STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE MORE IN KEEPING WITH AN, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR WOULD SORT OF AT LEAST GIVE A NOD TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE TO IT, TO A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

ANY OF THOSE, I JUST WISH SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS COULD HAPPEN BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW,

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WE'VE SEEN DEMOLITIONS WITH VERY, VERY GOOD, GOOD RESULTS.

AND SO WE KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN.

WE'VE ALSO SEEN SOME VERY JARRING THINGS HAPPEN, ONE OF THEM RIGHT ON OUR STREET.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP IN WHATEVER YOU CAN DO.

AND AGAIN, IF IT MIGHT BE TO JUST ENCOURAGE OR REQUIRE SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WORKINGS OF YOUR REVIEW COMMITTEE, I GUESS DOESN'T, UH, DOESN'T ENTER INTO DISCUSSIONS WITH APPLICANTS THAT ARE JUST IN THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I DON'T KNOW.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I THINK YOU HAVE A HARD JOB.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS A RUSSELL LAMBRECHT.

HELLO? HI, I'M RUSSELL LAMBRECHT.

I'M ALSO A NEIGHBOR OF NANCY'S.

UM, SHE SAID JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO SAY AND MUCH BETTER, MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY.

UM, SO I REALLY, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY TO ADD TO THAT IS JUST TO IMPLORE YOU.

I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONVINCE THIS INVESTOR TO REALLY LOOK AT THESE GYMS AND THE WAY THAT WE SEE THEM AND FEEL THE THINGS THAT WE FEEL ABOUT THEM.

I'M AFRAID THAT HE'S RIGHT, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THESE NEW HOUSES THAT ARE COMING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S ALARMING.

YOU SEE IT, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OVER HERE.

BUT AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THESE CONSTRUCTION SITES ARE POPPING UP LEFT AND RIGHT.

AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT QUICKLY, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF THE CHARM.

THAT'S SO SPECIAL ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO AGAIN, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THEM DIRECTLY, BUT I THINK YOUR ACTIONS CAN, IF YOU CAN ENCOURAGE THEM TO REALLY LOOK AND WORK HARD AT WHAT CAN YOU DO TO RESTORE AND MAINTAIN SOMETHING AND CREATE SOMETHING REALLY UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT.

I MEAN, THERE COULD BE A HUNDRED BOX HOUSES AROUND THERE, BUT THERE'S ONLY GOOD MONEY.

ONE OF THESE, IF YOU, IF YOU CREATE THIS AND YOU SORT OF RESTORE IT INTO SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL, MAKE IT A ONE, UH, OWNER OCCUPANCY AND, AND, AND FIX UP THE INTERIOR, YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE.

THAT'S NET THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND ANYWHERE ELSE.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE VALUE FOR THE INVESTOR, FOR THE EVENTUAL OWNER AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAN JUST TEARING IT DOWN AND STARTING IN THEIR BOX.

OUR NEXT, UH, REGISTERED SPEAKER AND OPPOSITION IS GOING TO BE BY PHONE, UH, MS. CINDY SEIFERT.

HI, MY NAME IS SYDNEY SPEAKER AND I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE DEMOLITION OF 8 0 4 AS A DISTINCT, AS IT IS A UNIQUE STRUCTURE AND CONTRIBUTING, RESTORES THAT ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, DISTRICT NOMINATION FOR TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW, WHICH I REALLY IMPLORE THE OWNER WHO SPOKE EARLIER TO READ, UM, DISPLAY DETAILS FROM MISSION REVIVAL, TUTOR, REVIVAL, AND SWISS STYLES, ALL OF WHICH ADD TO THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS TO MIXED STYLE IS PARTIALLY WHY I IMAGINE IT WAS SINGLED OUT IN THE NOMINATION, EVEN THOUGH THE OWNER SUGGESTED THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT SPECIAL IT'LL FOR OTHER FURNACE, UNLIKE ANY OTHER BUILDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EXCEPT OF COURSE, FOR THE SORT OF FRATERNAL TWIN MULTIUNIT BUILDING DIRECTLY NEXT TO IT, 8 0 6 WATERFORD, WHICH SHARES MISSION REVIVAL INFLUENCES.

AND IT'S ALSO CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE.

THIS BUILDING COULD ALSO VERY WELL DISAPPEAR IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS OTHERS HAVE SUGGESTED.

UM, IF THE TREND IS DEMOLISHING CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONTINUES.

ADDITIONALLY, I THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO MENTION THAT ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION FOR TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW 82.5% OF THE 1056 CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

CLAREVIEW NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WHILE ONLY 12% OR 128 RESOURCES ARE MULTIFAMILY ARE MULTIFAMILY RESOURCES LIKE 8 0 4 RUTHERFORD.

I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW NOT ONLY THE ARCHITECTURAL DIVERSITY, BUT THE RESIDENTIAL DIVERSITY THAT 8 0 4 WEATHERFORD CONTRIBUTES TO TRAVIS HEIGHTS, HISTORIC STATUS AS SOMEONE WHO RENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHEN I FIRST THOUGHT 8 0 4 BROTHER FERG WAS FOR SALE, I FELT A PIT IN MY STOMACH, AS I KNEW ALMOST CERTAINLY THIS ARCHITECTURAL TREASURE WOULD BE TORN DOWN IN FAVOR FOR A LARGE, NEWLY CONSTRUCTED SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

WHEN THE POSSIBILITIES FOR IT ARE SO MUCH GREATER SINGLE-FAMILY OR NOT, UM, BECAUSE OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS, HISTORIC STATUS, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST TO THE APPLICANT THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS MANY FOLKS AND EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES TO HELP YOU EXPLORE ALTERNATIVES TO COMPLETE DEMOLITION OR OTHER OPTIONS AFTER DEMOLITION, THAT WOULDN'T HURT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER, UM, AT OTHERS HAVE SUGGESTED THIS AS WELL.

UM, THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL.

HELLO, MY NAME IS ALISON WASH CRACK, AND I ACTUALLY LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OR MEDO FOUR.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING?

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AND I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK TODAY BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I NORMALLY DO.

BUT AFTER HEARING THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE AND MANY OF MY WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS, I FELT I NEEDED TO SAY SOMETHING.

WE HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE THREE YEARS, MUCH DIFFERENT THAN NANCY.

UM, AND PART OF THE LOVE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THE DIVERSITY OF THE HOMES.

AND WHAT I FOUND SINCE I'VE MOVED IN HERE IS I CAN'T MAYBE TWO, THREE OF THESE PAPERS IN THE MAIL TELLING ME ABOUT ANOTHER HOME IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

IT'S GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED.

AND I LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR LIST HERE TODAY.

AND THERE'S SIX OF THEM, SIX HOMES IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

TRAVIS HEIGHTS IS SO UNIQUE.

AND I'M SO AN ODD ABOUT THE WAY THAT YOU LOOK AFTER YOUR TREES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL, BUT WHY AREN'T WE PRESERVING OUR HOMES TOO? WHY CAN'T YOU TAKE, KEEP THE FRONT FACADE? I KNOW IT MIGHT BE MORE MONEY AND CONSIDER THAT AND THEN DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO BEYOND THE BACK OF IT.

I COME FROM BOSTON, CAMBRIDGE, AND BOSTON.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE AREA, BUT CAMBRIDGE HAS TRIED TO KEEP AND PRESERVE MANY OF ITS HOMES.

SO YOU HAVE TO REALLY, THERE IS A COMMISSION, JUST LIKE YOU DO FOR YOUR TREES.

YOU HAVE FOR YOUR HOUSES.

AND YOU'RE LOSING WHAT IS, WHAT IS AWESOME ABOUT AUSTIN? IT'S BECOMING THESE WHITE BUILDINGS AND YES, YOU SAID IT WON'T BE A WHITE BLOCK, BUT IT'S NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT.

AND WE DO HAVE ONE THAT WAS JUST PLACED AT THE END OF OUR STREET.

TOTALLY DESTROYED THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE HOME.

AND IT'S A MONSTER.

IT'S JUST, IT'S A HORRIBLE PIECE OF, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

I DIDN'T WANT TO CALL IT.

I JUST NOT AN ARCHITECTURALLY PLACE THAT FITS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU HAVE CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOMES.

YOU HAVE THE ONE THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE STREET THAT I LOVE TO LOOK AT EVERY DAY.

I HAVE NANCY'S HOUSE NEXT TO THAT.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE ONE THAT JUST SOLD TODAY BESIDE 8 1 8 0 4, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR.

AND IT WILL BE SO SAD.

I HAVE PEOPLE THAT SAY, OH, WHERE DO YOU LIVE IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS? ALL OF THEM, MY MOTHER FIRST, I LOVE THAT STREET.

THAT STREET IS SO UNIQUE AND WE NEED TO PRESERVE THIS, NOT JUST YOUR TREES.

YOU'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT YOUR BUILDINGS AND ARCHITECTS TODAY.

THEY CAN TAKE WHAT'S THERE AND CREATE BEYOND THAT.

STILL GIVE THE PERSON, THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES STILL GIVE THEM THEIR BIG KITCHEN, BUT LEAVE, WHAT'S LEAVE THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU'LL THINK ABOUT.

YOU'RE LOSING, YOU'RE LOSING ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO BIG WHITE, BLACK, BLACK, AND WHITE STRUCTURES THAT REALLY HAVE NO CHARACTER.

AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS HOUSE WAS BOUGHT ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT AND THEN NOT THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT'S LEFT OR WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

SO I'M HOPING YOU'LL CONSIDER THAT I'M REALLY LOVED LOOKING AT IT FROM ACROSS THE STREET.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? YEAH.

COME ON DOWN.

STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JAMES CLINEBELL.

I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST, UH, TO WANT TO SAY TWO BRIEF THINGS.

ONE IS CAVEAT EMPTOR TO THE BUYER.

THEY SHOULD DO THEIR RESEARCH.

AND SECONDLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS A VERY LIMITED POWERS, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE A CASE WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXERCISE YOUR POWERS.

THIS PROPERTY WAS LISTED AS A SPECIAL PROPERTY IN THE SUBMISSION TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER, AND IT IS PRETTY MUCH UNIQUE IN THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I WOULD IMPLORE YOU TO RACHEL A. LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS YOUR REACH RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS MAY BE AN INSTANCE WHERE YOU MAYBE YOU CAN FIND THE REACH.

WE CAN ALL FIND THAT WE CAN GET NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT ON TO AGREE ON, WHETHER IT BE A RENOVATION OF THIS PROPERTY, IT'S NOT A FULL, FULL DEMOLITION.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION IN THE AUDIENCE? ALL RIGHT.

THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REBUT FOR THREE MINUTES? OKAY.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR LETTING ME COME UP HERE AGAIN.

AND, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW.

I HAD SO MANY NEIGHBORS AND THIS WAS SUCH A, AN EMOTIONAL PROPERTY, AND I'D LOVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO ENGAGE WITH ANY LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, NEIGHBORS.

I'D LOVE TO TRY AND FIND A RESOLUTION IF IT'S NOT DEMOLITION.

IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT

[02:50:01]

I UNDERSTAND IT'S EXTREMELY UNIQUE PROPERTY.

IT'S THE REASON WE BOUGHT IT.

LIKE, I LOVE IT.

WE THOUGHT IT'D BE REALLY COOL TO DO A REMODEL.

AND IT TURNS OUT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S TOO FAR GONE.

WE CAN'T DO IT.

WE HAVE NO OFF STREET PARKING DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE PECAN TREES ON THE PROPERTY.

WE CAN'T ADD PARKING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, WE GOT KIND OF STUCK AND THIS IS THE BEST RESOLUTION, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A TEAR DOWN.

THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH ELSE WE CAN DO.

IT IS NOT THAT RENOVATION IS UNAFFORDABLE.

IT'S JUST NOT, COST-EFFECTIVE JUST DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE UNITS AND THE RENTS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'D LOVE TO ENGAGE WITH MY NEIGHBORS, ANY GROUPS TO TRY AND FIND SOME SORT OF AMICABLE SOLUTION.

UM, IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WE'D LIKE TO POSTPONE A DECISION AND COME TO THE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW MEETING TO HOPEFULLY FIND AGAIN, SOME SORT OF SOLUTION WORK WITH, IF WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR CURRENT PLANS, TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNS, LIKE W WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET OUR NEIGHBORS TO HATE US.

I LIVE IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

I LOVE TRAVIS HIDES.

I RENOVATED A 1,209 ALTA VISTA RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM THIS, THAT REALLY COOL HOUSE WITH THE PERGOLA.

UM, AND 1 0, 0 6 HARDWOOD.

UM, SO I KNOW, I KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND I LOVE THESE OLDER HOMES.

AND IF WE HAD ANY OTHER OPTION WITH THIS, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.

ARE YOU AWARE OF THE SUBSTANTIAL TAX CREDITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTIES? YES.

AND UNFORTUNATELY IT STILL DOESN'T MEET THE BAR THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO RENOVATE THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT CAN GO UP TO 45% OF THE RENOVATION COST.

OH MAN.

WELL THEN I'D LOVE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER, BUT REALISTICALLY FOR THIS BUILDING, IT'S JUST OVER 2000 SQUARE FEET.

WE'VE GOT ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET ON EACH FLOOR, TRAVIS SITES.

UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE GETTING MAYBE 2020 500 PER UNIT, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN COMING CLOSE TO SERVICING THE DEBT PLUS OUR TAXES.

AND YOU WOULD GET FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS, THINK OF THE GOODWILL.

THAT WOULD BE, OH, I I'D LOVE TO.

I HONESTLY DID NOT KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE SUCH AN EMOTIONAL BUILDING.

UM, AND IN NO WAY DID I MEAN TO, UM, STEP ON ANYBODY'S TOES OR, OR, OR OFFEND ANYBODY? UM, LIKE I LOVE TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

I DO.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF WE THOUGHT WE HAD OTHER OPTIONS WITH THIS, WE WOULD BE EXPLORING THEM.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF OPTION WHERE WE CAN, WHERE WE LEAVE THE FRONT FACADE AND WE JUST END UP THE BACK HALF OF THE BUILDING, WE'RE HAPPY TO EXPLORE THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING HAS A FLAT ROOF.

IT'S GOT PIER AND BEAM FOUNDATION, EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

OH, SORRY IS FAILING.

UM, BUT THANK YOU GUYS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND NEIGHBORS.

I'D LOVE TO BUY YOU GUYS A CUP OF COFFEE AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN FIND SOME SORT OF AMICABLE SOLUTION.

UM, I REALLY WOULD.

THANK YOU GUYS.

UM, DO I HEAR, UM, A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECOND.

AS MOVED IN SECONDARY, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, RAISE YOUR HAND, SAY AYE.

UM, I, UH, I HAVE A STRONG INTEREST IN INITIATING HISTORIC ZONING, BUT I COULD ALSO GO FOR A POSTPONEMENT AND INVITATION TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH MAY BE MORE BETTER FOR, UM, ESTABLISHING GOODWILL.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS CASE TO OUR MARCH MEETING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING SECOND THOUGH.

UM, AND IN THE, IN THE MEANTIME, IF WE CAN GET, UM, OUR COLLEAGUE COMMISSIONER LAROCHE TO LOOK AT THE, AT THE FOUNDATION, I NEED JUST LOOK AT COMB AND GENTLEMEN, I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER CASE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA AND LIKE TO GET MORE DATA.

AND WE, I, I ALWAYS ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION ON THIS, UM, JUST CAUSE I'M NEVER SURE DO WE NEED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE SINCE WE'RE, UH, THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE STAFF.

AND I, UM, I'M ALSO INCLINED TO INITIATE AS WELL, BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF, UH, PRESERVATION, UH, BEFORE WE START THAT CLOCK TICKING.

UM, WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO, UM, TO DELAY UP TO 180 DAYS, BUT, UM, A POSTPONEMENT, UM, WE HAVE THE MOTION AND SECOND, UM, FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA.

[02:55:03]

I THINK IF WE CAN JUST CLARIFY THE MOTION THAT THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THERE WILL BE AT A MEETING, UM, OR TO REOPEN, HOWEVER, HOWEVER WE WANT TO WORDSMITH THAT.

BUT YES, THE PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD BE OPEN FOR THE NEXT HEARING.

CAN YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION? LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO CONFIRM THAT PUBLIC HEARING WILL STAY OPEN UNTIL CONSIDERED FOR CLOSURE AT THE NEXT MEETING? I'LL ACCEPT THAT.

UM, THIS IS ONE OF MY TOP 10 FAVORITE HOUSES IN TREVIS SITES.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING, UM, RESOLVED, UH, THAT WOULD SAVE AT LEAST THE PRIMARY FACADE.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE I HAVE, UH, ANOTHER, UM, SIMILAR, UH, MULTIFAMILY BUILDING THAT I COULD SHOW THE APPLICANT WHAT WAS DONE WITH IT AND HOW IT IS NOW A LANDMARK AND, UM, HOW IT'S BEEN RESTORED.

AND I'LL BRING THAT INFORMATION TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IF THE APPLICANT WOULD ACCEPT OUR INVITATION.

UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION OF YES, MADAM CHAIR, I'D JUST LIKE TO COORDINATE MY VISIT TO THE PROPERTY WITH STAFF, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE WITH THE APPLICANT.

AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN SET SOMETHING UP.

UM, SHALL WE TAKE A VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO POSTPONE AND INVITE THE APPLICANT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, SAY AYE.

THE NEXT ITEM C2 WENT TO, UH, STATE ON CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, FOR ATTENDING, SIR.

UM,

[3.C.2. PR-2021-200516 – 512 E. Monroe St – Consent postponement to March 28, 2022 (postponed January 24, 2022) Travis Heights – Fairview Park National Register District]

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

[3.C.4. HR-2021-202873 – 1410 Alameda Dr. – Consent Travis Heights – Fairview Park National Register District]

OUR NEXT ITEM IS 14, 10 ALOMEDA C4.

I'M GETTING SOME INTERFERENCE.

CHAIRMAN MYERS ITEM C4 IS A PROPOSAL TO REPLACE EXISTING WOOD WINDOWS AND WOOD SIDING ON THE FRONT AND LEFT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

UM, IT'S A CONTRIBUTING RESIDENCE BUILT AROUND 1936 TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT THIS HOUSE.

UM, I'M YOU ALL ABLE TO HEAR ME? UM, WE'RE HEARING THE INTERFERENCE AS WELL.

SOUNDS LIKE A VACUUM CLEANER.

UH, THIS PROJECT, UH, IS, UH, GOING TO REPLACE EXISTING WOOD WINDOWS AND SIDING.

UM, THE ARCHITECTURE OF THIS HOUSE, UH, IS A, UH, MINIMAL TRADITIONAL STYLE OF ASYMMETRICAL CROSS GABLED ROOF AND HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING.

UM, IT HAS SIGNIFICANT ALTERATIONS AND ADDITIONS, INCLUDING SIX OVER SIX REPLACEMENT WINDOWS, AS WELL AS AN ENTRY BAY ON THE FRONT SIDE.

UM, AND A REAR TWO STORY ADDITION HOME WAS BUILT IN 1936 BY AR MCTIGUE, WHO WAS A JOURNALIST FOR THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN IN THE 1930S.

UM, IT WAS PURCHASED AND SOLD IN BY SEVERAL OWNERS, INCLUDING HURLEY AND ALICE E. GRIFFITH, UM, OWNER AND MANAGER OF THE GRIFFITH WALLPAPER AND PAINT COMPANY.

UM, AS WELL AS GIRVAN AGE AND FLM SANDERSON, UH, IN THE LATE FORTIES, SANDERSON WAS A PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

UM, AND OTHER OWNERS INCLUDE CHARLES AND VIVIAN PER YEAR, UH, IN THE 1950S THROUGH THE OWNERS OF BRADSHAW AND PER YEAR, UH, MR. PERRIER WAS A MASTER PLUMBER WHO HELPED TO ORGANIZE THE MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION OF AUSTIN, UM, AND THE MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS.

AND HE WAS ALSO A MEMBER FOR 25 YEARS UNTIL HIS DEATH IN 1979.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UH, COMMENT ON AND RELEASE THE APPLICATION.

UM, THERE, THE PROJECT DOES NOT MEET THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS, DO THE REPLACEMENT OF HISTORIC FABRIC.

UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS REPAIR OF ORIGINAL BLOOD FABRIC, INCLUDING WINDOWS AND SIDING, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

[03:00:02]

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER REGISTERED, UH, BY PHONE, UH, MR. BRIAN KILLED, UH, KLINGER CLEANER, UH, IN FAVOR OF, OKAY.

SHOULD I GO AHEAD? HI, UH, MY NAME IS BRIAN CLEANER.

I'M THE HOMEOWNER, I GUESS THE APPLICANT IS THE WINDOW INSIDE AND CONTRACTOR THAT'S DOING THE WORK.

SO ANYWAY, WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE A FEW MONTHS AGO AND OUR INSPECTOR POINTED OUT THAT THE SIDING WAS ROTTED AND THE WINDOWS WERE INOPERABLE AND LEAKING AIR.

SO WE DECIDED TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS WITH MODERN ENERGY EFFICIENT WINDOWS AND THE ROTTING SIDING WITH HARDY BOARD.

BUT IT LOOKS JUST THE SAME AS THE HOUSE.

YES, TODAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT FOR THE OWNER? ALL RIGHT.

UH, THAT'S THE ONLY SPEAKER WE HAD REGISTERED, UH, IN FAVOR.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS REGISTERED IN FAVOR IN THE AUDIENCE? ALL RIGHT.

THEN WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER REGISTERED IN OPPOSITION, UH, MR. CLIFTON LAD OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.

UM, SO THEY'RE JUST, UH, THEY'RE REPLACING THEIR WINDOWS.

UM, IT IS THE, THE OWNER STILL ON THE LINE.

UM, ARE THE, ARE THE REPLACEMENTS WOULD, WOULD OUT WHEN DOES, UH, NO, THEY'RE THERE? UM, I GUESS THEY'RE MADE OUT OF A WOOD COMPOSITE MATERIAL FROM ANDERSON, BUT WE, WE ACTUALLY LIKE OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF OUR CONTRACTORS PAID EXTRA MONEY TO HAVE THE GRID MATCHED WITH THAT, THE OLD WINDOWS, THE, THE WINDOW PATTERN, THE WINDOW CONFIGURATION, THE LIGHT, THE LIGHT PATTERN MATCHES.

UM, I HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION, UM, FROM, UH, MS. COLLINS WHO WROTE THE CHAPTER FOUR, THAT THE WINDOWS ARE FIBERGLASS, UM, PER PLAN THEY'RE FIBERGLASS.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND IF I COULD, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU, YOU SWEAT, I'VE SPECIFIED BETWEEN THE GLASS, UM, GRILL ALIGNMENT.

SO THAT'S REALLY NOT A DIVIDED GLASS.

ARE THEY SNAPPING MUNCHKINS? NO, THIS IS BETWEEN THE TWO PANES.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE, THE UNIT, BUT THE FACE OF THE GLASSES IS STILL ONE PAIN.

WHICH BY THE WAY IS NOT, NOT, UM, RECOMMENDED.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE, DOES, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYONE ELSE.

NO.

THE REASONS THAT THE REASON THIS ITEM WAS PULLED OFF, THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS FOR MR. LADS, UH, POSING REMARKS.

IT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN.

UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVE SECOND.

MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? YEAH.

I, I MOVED TO RELEASE THE APPLICATIONS PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

I'LL SECOND.

THAT MOTION.

ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO LOOK AT WINDOW INSERTS, SUCH AS IN THOUGH WITHOUT A W OR A CLIMATE SEAL, WHICH ARE SECONDARY LAYERS THAT YOU COULD PUT ON THE INSIDE OF YOUR HISTORIC WINDOWS TO ADD, UH, AIR TIGHTNESS AND ACOUSTIC EFFICIENCY FOR LESS THAN THE COST OF REPLACEMENT WHILE RETAINING YOUR ORIGINAL EXTERIOR HISTORIC WINDOWS MET.

THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT, UH, WILL PRESERVE THE HISTORIC FABRIC.

IT MIGHT SAVE YOU SOME MONEY AND ACCOMPLISH THE SAME END.

UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO RELEASE THE PERMIT WAS SIGNIFIED BY RAISING YOUR HANDS SAYING, I, UH, LET ME SEE EVERYBODY.

THE MOTION PASSES.

[3.C.8. HR-2022-011680 – 700-702 E. Monroe St. – Consent Travis Heights – Fairview Park National Register District]

THE NEXT ITEM UP FOR DISCUSSION IS C EIGHT, 700 TO 7 0 2 EASTMAN ROSE

[03:05:01]

STREET.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO DEMOLISH A CIRCUIT 1956, CONTRIBUTING DUPLEX AND CONSTRUCT A NEW HOUSE.

UH, THE NEW HOUSE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 3,500 SQUARE FEET.

A TWO STORY MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE HOME WITH A DETACHED ONE-STORY GARAGE AND POOL.

THE HOUSE WILL HAVE STUCCO WALLS WITH WOOD ACCENTS AND THE HIP TO TILE ROOF WINDOWS ARE SINGLE OR GROUPINGS OF DIVIDED LIKE CASEMENTS, AND THE HOUSE WILL HAVE A TRELLIS AT THE FRONT AND MULTIPLE TRELLISES AT THE REAR, UH, THE EXISTING BUILDING TO BE DEMOLISHED AS A ONE-STORY PSYCH ABLE DUPLEX, UM, WITH THE UNITS FLUNKING AND INTEGRAL TWO CAR CARPORT, AND THE DOG TROT CONFIGURATION WALLS ARE CLAD.

AND AS FESTA, SHINGLES AND WINDOWS ARE SINGLE IMPAIRED, WHENEVER ONE SASH THE DUPLEX AT SEVEN HUNDREDS OF 7 0 2 EAST MONROE STREET WAS BUILT AROUND 1956 FOR THE HOFFMAN LA LUMBER COMPANY CITY DIRECTORIES RECORD A HANDFUL OF SHORT TERM RENTERS BEFORE 1959, WHICH IS THE LAST YEAR THAT WE HAVE EASY ACCESS TO CITY DIRECTORY.

UH, INFORMATION RESIDENTS INCLUDE A GOVERNMENT INSTRUCTOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AND THE MEMBER OF THE US AIR FORCE.

UM, STAFF DOES NOT FIND WHILE THIS IS CLEARLY A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE TO THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT STAFF DOES NOT FIND THAT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION, EITHER IN TERMS OF ITS ARCHITECTURE OR SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSED NEW DESIGN.

UM, IT IS A MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE HOME, AND CERTAINLY THERE ARE OTHER HOUSES OF, OF THIS, UM, STYLE AND CHARACTER, EXCUSE ME, UM, ELSEWHERE AND THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT NOT IN THIS IMMEDIATE VICINITY.

UM, THE HOUSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE, UM, GENERALLY MUCH SMALLER, UH, CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOUSES, UH, WITH GAMBLED AND HIPPED ROOFS, UH, HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING AND DOUBLE HUNG WOOD WINDOWS.

UM, SO TILE ROOFING, STUCCO CLADDING, AND MULTI-LEVEL CASEMENT WINDOWS MAY BE PRESENT ELSEWHERE WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT NOT WITHIN THIS IMMEDIATE VICINITY.

UM, SO STEPH FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION MEETS SOME APPLICABLE STANDARDS, BUT GENERALLY IS OUT OF SCALE AND CHARACTER WITH ITS IMMEDIATE SURROUNDINGS STAFF RECOMMENDS COMMENTING ON AND RELEASING THE PLANS AND RELEASING THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BERMAN? OKAY.

IS THERE, UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? THE APPLICANT IS ON, UH, IS JOINING US BY PHONE A MS. CARRIE BELZER.

MS. OR, YEAH, IT'S MR. BALDWIN.

CARRIE ALWAYS GETS YOU.

UM, AND YOU PUT THE AVERAGE 400, $500 A SQUARE FOOT TO BILL, AND YOU HAD A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS PER DUPLEX, WHICH IS JUST NOT, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT QUALIFIES AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I'M A TERRY.

I SOMETIMES GET THAT TOO.

SO YEAH, I, I HAVE, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT SUPPORTED THE DEMOLITION AND PLAN BUILT.

UM, THERE REALLY WAS NOT A OPTION TO KEEP THE CURRENT PROPERTY IS JUST NOT FEASIBLE.

THE REALTOR LISTED.

IT IS GREAT FOR NEW BILL DUPLEX IN VERY POOR CONDITION.

IT WOULD NOT ALLOW A BUYER TO SEE IT UNTIL THEY HAD IT UNDER CONTRACT TO SEE THE INSIDE.

AND OUR APPRAISER WOULD NOT ATTRIBUTE ANY VALUE TO THE BUILDING IN PART, BECAUSE THERE'S A CRACK FOUNDATION OF NO LARGE TREE THAT USED TO BE UP AGAINST THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND THEY REMOVED IT WITH A PERMIT IN 2021.

BUT IF, UH, IT WAS DEFINITELY A GIANT TREE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE, TRYING TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THE GROUND WOULD TAKE OUT THE REST OF THE DAY, THE FOUNDATION PROBABLY.

UM, SO THAT REALLY PREVENTED US FROM CONSIDERING UTILIZING THAT AS AN OPTION IN, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE WERE ADVANTAGES BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK, THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE SITS WITHIN THE TWENTY-FIVE FOOT SETBACK.

UM, I NOTICED THERE WERE, UH, KIND OF TWO OBJECTIONS, THREE OBJECTIONS, TWO OF WHICH, WHICH I CAN ADDRESS HERE.

ONE WAS THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE TREE ON THE CORNER OF MONROE AND SUNSET, UH, PROTECTED.

AND THAT'S ACTUALLY INTEGRAL TO THE DESIGN, UH, FROM THE ARCHITECT.

SO, UM, WE TRIED TO USE THAT AS A, AS A FOCAL POINT, UH, FROM THE STREET AND JUST RECENTLY JUST, UH, TREND SOME DEAD WINS, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT DONE BEFORE WE'LL EXCUSE HIM.

UM, THE OTHER ONE WAS, YOU KNOW, SAYING, HEY, I REALLY PREFER TO SEE A REHAB DUPLEX, UM, TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND, AND WHILE I'M ALL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO DO IT.

UH, THE, THE LAND ITSELF COSTS $1.4 MILLION.

SO IF YOU JUST SOLD THE LAND, UH, YOU KNOW, HALF THE LAND, EACH BUYER IT'D BE $700,000.

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WE DID, WE DID CONSIDER DOING AN ADU TO GET A SECONDARY UNIT.

UM, BUT BECAUSE OF THE HERITAGE TREES, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO, UH, TRY TO SEEK REMOVAL OF ONE OF THE TREES TO GET AN APU ON THERE AND DECIDED NOT TO PROCEED WITH THAT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY LOCATION IS REALLY WHAT MAKES THIS PROPERTY AND THE TREES ARE A BIG PART OF WHAT MAKES THAT, UM, WE, WE ARE PUTTING KNOW, WE DIDN'T CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT.

WE CALL IT SPANISH COLONIAL.

UM, I KNOW THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE, UH, HOUSES THERE, BUT THERE IS ONE ON 1602 ALTAVISTA, WHICH IS PROBABLY 10 OR 12 HOUSES AWAY AND JUST DOWN THE CORNER.

UM, SO, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE FIVE HOUSES IN A ROW THE SAME, BUT, UM, YOU WANT VOLUME.

I APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, THE REST OF NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MODERN HOME ACROSS THE STREET.

THAT'S, UH, UH, YOU GOT A RENTAL PROPERTY IN THE BACK.

UM, IT'S VERY ECLECTIC AND IT WILL CONTINUE, BUT REALLY WE TAKE THE SPANISH STYLE FITS IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, YOU KNOW, MAKES IT UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT FROM THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CLOCKS, MODERN BOX HOUSES THAT PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL STOP AND SEE WHAT QUESTIONS COME UP.

UM, ARE THERE ANY FOR OTHER SPEAKERS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? UH, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS A MR. UH, CHRISTIAN LAD.

HELLO, MY NAME STILL CLIFTON LAD.

I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE JUST FACING SO MANY DEMOLITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS HOUSE, THIS DUPLEX IS A FAIRLY UNIQUE STRUCTURE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE ARE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE OLD.

THEY REPRESENT STYLES THAT WE DON'T SEE VERY OFTEN THIS, THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE TO THE OWNER, YOU KNOW, HE THINKS THAT I MET HER TRAINING REVIVAL STYLE WITH A POOL WOULD FIT WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS HOUSE THAT'S THERE TODAY, UM, AND CAN, IS SUITABLE FOR TWO FAMILIES IS A UNIQUE HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO I ASKED YOU TO CONSIDER, UH, SAVING THIS HOUSE.

ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. LAD? OKAY.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS A MELANIE MARTINEZ.

HELLO, I'M MELANIE MARTINEZ.

AND, UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH HOPE THAT YOU CAN SAVE THIS PROPERTY.

I'M SAD TO SEE THE CHANCE FOR ANOTHER DUPLEX TO BE DEMOLISHED, BUT MY BIGGEST OBJECTION IS THE PLANNED REPLACEMENT IS SO OUT OF SCALE AND CHARACTER WITH THIS PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND MONROE IS A WELL-TRAVELED STREET.

AND I THINK WE'VE REACHED SOME TIPPING POINT WHERE NOW WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH THE NEW HOUSES INSTEAD OF KEEPING THE CHARACTER OF THE OLDER ONES.

SO, UM, I JUST CAN'T EVEN PICTURE THIS PROPOSED HOUSE ON THAT LOT.

IT'S JUST SO JARRING, BUT, UM, I HOPE THAT YOU CAN MAYBE TALK TO THE OWNER TO SEE IF THEY CAN CHANGE THEIR DESIGN PLANS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SO, UM, OSTENTATIOUS OR I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT I AM, UH, JUST WANTED TO REGISTER THAT COMPLAINT ON THE DESIGN.

THANK YOU, MELANIE.

THAT WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHERE ARE THESE TWO HOUSEHOLDS GOING TO GO? AUSTIN REALLY NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

OUR NEXT, UM, SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS PAULA KOFMAN SO ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED ABOUT HAVING THE NEW HISTORIC DESIGNATION THAT WE JUST GOT IS THAT THERE ARE INCENTIVES FOR LOW-INCOME PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY , BUT CAN YOU PLEASE WEAR YOUR MASK? OH, I'M SORRY TO, TO, UM, TO PRESERVE THEIR HOUSES.

SO YOU SEE SOMEONE WHO'S BOUGHT THE HOUSE AND SAYS THE FOUNDATION IS CRACKED AND EVERYTHING A LOT OF TIMES, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THERE ARE FUNDS OUT THERE FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY PRESERVE THE HOUSES.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN MAYBE HELP TO GET TO STOP SOME OF THESE DEMOLITIONS IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE HOUSES THAT WE HAVE BETTER NOW.

AND SO, UM, ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE LOSING A DUPLEX GOOD CLOTHES, AND THEN, UM, W DUPLEX

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AND, UM, ALSO, I'M SORRY, BUT THIS PERSON BOUGHT THE HOUSE AFTER THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION WAS ALREADY DECLARED.

AND SO WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE GOING TO BE CERTAIN KINDS OF DESIGN THINGS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A BIG BOX NEXT TO OUR LITTLE HOUSE AND SHADE US, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DETRACTING FROM THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTIES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT THAT.

AND, UM, HOPEFULLY THE, NOW THAT THE OWNER KNOWS THAT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS THERE, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH PEOPLE WITH THE DESIGN CENTERS AND, AND BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S MORE COMPATIBLE ON THIS VERY HIGHLY TRAVELED.

THANK YOU, MS. COOK, ARE THERE ANY, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION IN THE AUDIENCE? ALL RIGHT.

UH, MR. KERRY BOWZER, IF YOU WERE STILL ON THE LINE, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR A REBUTTAL, THE GUY WHO'S REDEVELOPING TO DO THE MEDITERRANEAN STYLE.

SO IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE BIG WHITE HOUSES.

AND WHILE IT'S DEFINITELY BIGGER THAN IT'S NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, IT PROBABLY ACROSS THE STREET.

UH, AND THEN THEY, UM, THERE'S ONE THAT KIND OF GOES SUNSET AND MONROE TO TWO UNITS ARE EQUALLY AS BIG.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFULLY, I THINK THE SIZE HAPPENS THERE BECAUSE, UM, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT PAULA SAID ABOUT PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THEIR HOUSES, BUT THAT'S THE PRIOR OWNER.

HE WAS, YOU KNOW, A LANDLORD, HIS BUSINESS WAS TO RENT HOUSES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO.

AND SO YOU HAD TO COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, THINK THAT I'M GONNA, YOU'LL FIX IT UP TO BE A RENTAL, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT PERSON SHOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE HOUSE.

AND LIKE I SAID, THAT GUY WOULD NOT LET YOU IN THE HOUSE UNTIL IT WAS, YOU ALREADY HAD AN UNDER CONTRACT NOW BECAUSE WE HAD NOT MAINTAINED IT.

UM, THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, HI, RAISE YOUR HAND.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? I MOVED TO, UH, MAKE OUR COMMENTS HERE AND RELEASE THE PLANS, UH, PENDING A COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

IS THERE A SECOND? MS. LEVEL COMMISSIONER, LITTLE SECONDS.

THE MOTION.

THE MOTION IS TO RELEASE THE, UM, PERMIT PENDING, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE WAS EIGHT BY 10, UM, PHOTOGRAPHS ON PHOTOGRAPHIC PAPER AND WAS A SKETCH PLAN AND A NARRATIVE HISTORY FOR ARCHIVING AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER.

UM, MADAM CHAIR, UH, JUST A CLARIFICATION.

UM, WE ALSO WERE PRESENTED CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS FOR THE REPLACEMENT.

IS THAT ALSO DEALT WITH IN THIS MOTION? YES.

UH, THE MOTION INCLUDED COMMENTING ON GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY IN THIS MEETING TO COMMENT ON THE PLANS, ANY COMMENTS ON THE PLANS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE OWNER TO, UH, READ THE CITY-WIDE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND WHILE THIS IS QUITE A HANDSOME HOUSE, IT DOESN'T, AND IT'S AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY ON THAT.

A LOT THAT SIZE AND THAT LOCATION, IT REALLY DOES NOT WORK WELL WITH THE OTHER HISTORIC HOMES, UH, IN THIS DISTRICT.

AND I WOULD ASK TO RECONSIDER THE STYLE AND THE DESIGN AND THE SCALE, BUT TO RELEASE THE PERMIT AND TO RELEASE THE PERMIT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER? UH, FEATHERSTON.

YEAH, I FEEL LIKE I PICK MY BATTLES AT ONCE A MEETING AND, UH, TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE LOSING A DUPLEX TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT AT LEAST THIS OWNER WAS HONEST AND ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE SPENT $1.4 MILLION ON THE LAND.

AND AT THAT POINT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE YOU CAN DO WITH IT.

AND I THINK THAT THE, UM, THE PREVIOUS TRAVIS HEIGHTS, UM, AGENDA ITEM WE SAW, YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T SAY I WATCH HE SPENT ON IT, BUT IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR IN READING BETWEEN HIS LINES THAT HE COULDN'T AFFORD TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.

UM, AND HERE WE'VE GOT THIS.

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I MEAN, THE PROBLEM IS THE ZONING IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU ACTUALLY WANTED TO SAVE THIS, YOU'D HAVE ZONING WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT WOULD BE FOR SMALL MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS.

THE DUPLEX, THE EXISTING DUPLEX IS, IS ALLOWED UNDER SINGLE, UNDER SF THREE, WHICH I IMAGINE THIS ZONE AS A THREE, I KEEP IT WELL.

AND THAT I'M GETTING BEYOND THE REALM OF JUST THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, BUT THAT, UH, THAT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE IN AUSTIN THAT YOU CAN BUILD A FOURPLEX LEGALLY.

HOW, HOW CAN WE PRESERVE TREVIS SITES? YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER WITHOUT SPENDING WAY TOO MUCH OF OUR TIME.

AND I'M ALREADY BEHIND ON, YEAH.

MAY I, MAY I COMMENT, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE THE ADVOCACY OF THE NEIGHBORS, BUT WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR THAT, UH, THE ZONING FOR, FOR A SINGLE FAMILY, DUPLEX OR MULTI-FAMILY IS NOT REALLY IN OUR PURVIEW AND DOESN'T REALLY WEIGH INTO ANY OF OUR DECISIONS, UH, BECAUSE THAT WOULD, THAT COULD LEGALLY CLOUD THOSE DECISIONS, BUT IT IS UNFORTUNATE TO SEE THE LOSS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OLDER HOMES ARE, UH, MORE AFFORDABLE TO RENT.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE HUGE DEBT SERVICE WITH THEM AFTER AN EXCHANGE OF HANDS, BUT, UM, EXPENSIVE LAND IS KIND OF A REALITY IN AUSTIN THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE WHO THE CITY TO LOOK AT SOME INCENTIVES THAT MAYBE COULD COMBINE PRESERVATION AND DENSITY AND AFFORDABILITY.

UH, BUT THAT'S BEYOND WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT HERE, HERE RIGHT NOW.

ITEM I BELIEVE IS SCENE 9, 15 0 5 ALAMEDA.

COMMISSIONER.

YEAH, I DID WANT TO ADDRESS, UM, SOME OF THE DESIGN ISSUES FOR THE NEW HOME, BECAUSE I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COOK.

I THINK IT'S, UH, AN APPEALING EARLY CONCEPT.

UH, BUT I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE.

UH, I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WELL-DESIGNED HOME THAT RELATES TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE IT IS AT THE END OF THE BLOCK, UH, I THINK THIS IS THE PLACE TO HAVE A BIGGER HOME ANYWAY.

UM, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT YOU'RE REPLACING SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY, VERY MUCH WITHIN THE MORE INFORMAL, UH, CONTEXT OF THIS, THIS WHOLE BLOCK MUCH OF WHICH IS STILL IN VERY, UH, UH, HAS VERY STRONG INTEGRITY.

AND, UH, I WOULD, FOR THAT REASON, SAY THAT NOT YOU HAVE TO DUPLICATE NECESSARILY, BUT YOU'RE SO OVERTLY WORKING WITH A STYLE THAT IS, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WHOLE LITTLE DISTRICT, UH, THAT IT'S TAKING A STEP BACK, LOOKING AT THAT LOT AND LOOKING AT ITS CONTEXT, I THINK, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE, THE OWNER TO, TO REALLY SHAKE THAT UP A BIT AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S PERHAPS MORE APPROPRIATE.

OH, WE CAN ENCOURAGE, UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

[3.C.9. HR-2022-006510 – 1505 Alameda Dr. – Consent Travis Heights – Fairview Park National Register District]

THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CIRCUIT 1947 CONTRIBUTING HOUSE WITHIN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK, HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH THE POOL.

UM, AMBER STEPPED OUT FOR A MOMENT WHEN SHE'S BACK, WE CAN PULL UP THE IMAGES, UM, BUT THIS IS A TOTAL DEMOLITION OF A 1947 CONTRIBUTING HOUSE AND CONSTRUCTION OF A CONTEMPORARY STYLE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE WITHIN THE ATTACHED REAR CARPORT.

THE PROPOSED HOUSE IS A FULL TWO STORIES.

PLUS A PENTHOUSE AND ROOFTOP DECK, UH, WILL HAVE A FLAT ROOF WITH OVERHANGING EAVES, VERY SIGHTING MATERIALS, INCLUDING VERTICAL WOODS STUCCO AND METAL PANELS, LARGE FIXED WINDOWS WITH CASEMENT AND HOPPER SASHES, AND A SCREENED FRONT PORCH.

UH, THE CAR PORT WILL OPEN ONTO THE ALLEY.

THE PROJECT ALSO ENTAILS INSTALLATION OF AN IN-GROUND POOL IN THE FRONT YARD, BEHIND A PRIVACY WALL.

THE EXISTING HOUSE ON THE PARCEL IS A TWO-STORY IRREGULARLY SHAPED STUCCO HOUSE THAT SHOWS INFLUENCES OF THE INTERNATIONAL STYLE.

UM, IT'S A BIT OF AN UNUSUAL SHAPE.

UM, IT'S, UH, CLATON STUCCO AND HAS STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS.

UH, I WANT TO NOTE TWO FACTORS HERE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT JEREMIAH IS, HAS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT SHE'LL, SHE'LL BRING TO LIGHT WHEN WE GET TO THE DISCUSSION, UH, 1962 SANBORN MAP OR A, THIS PROPERTY SHOWS A ONE-STORY RESIDENCE ON THE LOT AND THE BUILDING PERMIT FROM 1982 NOTES AND ADDITION TO RESIDENTS

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TO CREATE A TWO-STORY RESIDENCE.

UH, WE DO NOT HAVE THE DRAWINGS OF THE PERMIT ITSELF.

THIS IS SIMPLY A DATABASE ENTRY.

AND SO THAT IS THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AT HAND FOR THAT 1982 MODIFICATION, THE HOUSE WAS BUILT AROUND 1947 FOR MARION STORM BY CONTRACTOR SEEP INHIBITS, UH, WHO IS A PROLIFIC HOME BUILDER AT THAT TIME.

MRS. STORM WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE TEXAS SOCIAL AND LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE.

UM, SHE LOOKED TO BE SOMEONE VERY INTERESTING, WHO I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO RESEARCH IN GREATER DEPTH, BUT SHE UNFORTUNATELY DIED IN A CAR CRASH IN 1950.

UH, SO HER ASSOCIATION WITH THIS PROPERTY, UH, WAS RELATIVELY LIMITED IN TIME.

SUBSEQUENT OCCUPANTS INCLUDED THE PROPRIETOR AT THE FAMOUS CAFE, A MEMBER OF THE U S AIR FORCE, A CLERK AT THE STATE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, AND THEN THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEY AT THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IN TERMS OF THE EVALUATION OF THE EXISTING HOUSE.

UM, MY ASSESSMENT, AGAIN, I KNOW OUR CHAIR IS GOING TO BRING FORWARD SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, BASED ON AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT SECOND STORY WAS ADDED 1982, I WOULD SAY IT HAS A LOW INTEGRITY AND FOR THAT REASON IS NOT ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT.

UM, IT ALSO, I THINK, WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO, UM, TO PROVE SOME SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS OF A POINT THAT IT WOULD QUALIFY FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

UH, AGAIN, IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK, NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

UM, AMBER, IF WE COULD SWITCH TO THE PROPOSED NEW DESIGN, UM, THE PROPOSED HOUSE IS THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT, INCLUDING A PENTHOUSE AND ROOF DECK.

UM, THIS PARCEL IS ADJACENT TO A ROW OF TWO AND THREE STORY NON-CONTRIBUTING HOUSES THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING HOUSES IN THE VICINITY ARE SINGLE STORY.

UM, IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT THESE THIRD STORY PORTION IS SET BACK FROM THE FRONT.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE AS STRONG OF A STREET PRESENCE.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S WITHIN A ROW OF NON-CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS, A VERY STYLES, INCLUDING MODERN DESIGNS, UM, BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY RELATE TO, UH, THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS, UM, WITHIN THIS AREA.

UM, IT'S REPLACING A FLAT ROOF TILES, BUT OTHER CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS IN THE VICINITY HAVE GABLED ROOFS.

UM, ALSO REPLACING A STUCCO HOUSE WITH A HOUSE WITH STUCCO CLADDING, UM, OTHER CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS IN THE VICINITY, UH, LARGELY HAVE HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING.

AND THE COMBINATION OF, OF THREE DIFFERENT SIDING MATERIALS HERE IS NOT REALLY IN KEEPING WITH, UM, THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN THE VICINITY.

UH, SAME WITH THE LARGE WINDOWS ARE AGAIN, NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE HISTORIC PATTERNS.

UM, THE PROPOSED PRIVACY FENCE AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ALSO DOESN'T FIT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, HAVING THE GARAGE OR THE CAR PORT TO THE REAR FACING THE ALLEY, UM, DOES MEET THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO COMMENT ON AND RELEASE THE PLANS AND TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

ARE THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I, I GUESS THIS MAY COME UP IN DISCUSSION, BUT IT WAS A ONE STORY AND THE SECOND STORY WAS ADDED.

IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT IT WAS INTERNATIONAL STYLE FROM THE BEGINNING OR ANY OF THE WINDOWS ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF HISTORIC AGE? BECAUSE THEY ALL APPEAR TO BE, UH, THE SAME AS THE SECOND STORY, WHICH WAS ADDED IN 1982, BUT I MEAN, THAT MAY COME UP IN DISCUSSION.

IT'S JUST, THAT'S THE SECOND STORY THAT I I'M, I'M PASSING AROUND AN IMAGE OF THE HOUSE, UH, THAT SHOWS THE SECOND, THE UPPER LEVEL OF THE HOUSE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS ALREADY THERE IN 1965, AS I FOUND A REFERENCE TO IT IN THE STATESMAN, UH, MAY 21ST, 1965.

THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IN, IN COURSE.

DIFFERENT DIFFERENT PERSON.

WE DO HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER JOINING US, UH, BY PHONE, UH, MR. MATT SCHWALBE.

UM, MATT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO SHOW THE PRESENTATION, UH, LET ME KNOW NATIONALLY REFERRING TO, OH, HI THERE.

UM, YEAH, ACTUALLY BEFORE I, I, I, I SPEAK, I JUST, UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT PRESENTATION YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

I RECEIVED A PRESENTATION, UH, FOR 1505 ALAMEDA DERIVE.

OH, SORRY.

UH, GO AHEAD, MATT.

WELL, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION.

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I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING.

UM, AND I CAN, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEIR PASSION FOR THE, UH, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO I'VE PURCHASED THIS HOUSE, UM, IN KIND OF THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME, UH, WHEN I MADE THE PURCHASE, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT, UM, THAT ANY OF THIS WOULD BE COMING UP.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, UH, ALTERATIONS TO THE HOUSE FROM WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT IN 1947.

UH, MOST OF WHICH TOOK PLACE IN 1982.

UM, AND THEN ALSO IF YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME KIND OF DRIVING AROUND, UM, THE STREET OF ALAMEDA, YOU CAN SEE IT, THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF TURNOVER ALONG THAT STREET WITH A LOT OF KIND OF NEWER DESIGN HOUSES.

UM, AND SO WHEN WE WERE KIND OF PUTTING TOGETHER THE CONCEPT FOR THIS HOUSE, UM, WE WENT TO A VERY REPUTABLE ARCHITECT BY THE NAME OF FAB.

UM, THEY DO VERY NICE DESIGNS, UM, AND WE TRY TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A LOT OF, SOME OF THE SURROUNDING, UM, HOUSES.

UM, AND THERE'S A PRETTY SIMILAR STYLE HOUSE ON THE BLOCK BEHIND THIS.

UM, AND SO, UM, YEAH, JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST, I GUESS MY POINT OF VIEW IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF SUCH HEAVY ALTERATIONS TO THE HOUSE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD FALL WITHIN THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I JUST WANT ALL THE NEIGHBORS TO KNOW THAT WE DID TAKE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, WE WERE MAKING THIS DESIGN.

UM, SO THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT.

UH, I WILL BE TAKING UP THE SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION FIRST BY THOSE IN PERSON, AND THEN THOSE BY PHONE.

UH, THE FIRST SPEAKER WE HAVE AN OPPOSITION IN PERSON IS MR. CLIFTON LAD.

UH, THIS, UH, THIS WHOLE STREET IS ACTUALLY FAIRLY UNIQUE AND I THINK THE HOUSE THAT'S THERE NOW, UM, IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, OF THE STREET.

AND IT'S GOT, UH, I I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT QUITE HONESTLY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE ORIGINS AND THE STYLE AND WHEN THIS THING WAS, WAS BUILT, UH, OR, AND MODIFIED.

SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT BEFORE Y'ALL PRESS FORWARD WITH THE DECISION ON IT.

SO THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS JAMES BOMB.

UH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

UH, JUST A COUPLE OF REMARKS BEFORE I GET GOING WITH MY PRESENTATION.

UM, ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER, UM, THAT THIS, THE ADDITION WAS JUST THE ONLY ADDITION SINCE 1947 WAS THE ROOF DECK.

THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FACTS ARE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE SURVEY SAYS.

UM, AND THE PROPOSED HOUSE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYTHING ON THE BLOCK.

I LIVE AT 1503, IT'S A ONE STORY.

UH, IT WAS A NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.

WHAT WAS ONE STORY? I RENOVATED IT.

DIDN'T ADD A STORY.

IT DIDN'T ADD ANY SQUARE FOOTAGE.

UM, UM, THE POOL IN THE FRONT YARD AND THE FENCE IS COMPLETELY AT ODDS WITH THE STREET, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR AUTHORITY LIES.

SO LET ME GET GOING.

IF YOU'LL LET ME WITH MY PRESENTATION.

I KNOW I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES.

SO, UH, THE FIRST SLIDE, UH, AND THIS SURVEY SUBMITTED TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER, THIS IS THE ONLY STRUCTURE IN THE DISTRICT LISTED AS INTERNATIONAL STYLE.

THE VERY FEW STRUCTURES IN THIS, IN THIS STYLE THAT EXISTS IN AUSTIN.

IT HAS A SIMPLE GEOMETRIC SHAPE, EXTERIOR STEEL COMMS, LACK OF ORNAMENTATION WINDOWS, AND SECOND FLOOR COUNTER LEVER.

IT'S EASY TO SEE THAT THE DESIGN OF THIS HOUSE WAS INFLUENCED BY A BAUHAUS SCHOOL AND CORVUS.

YAY.

I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE ORIGINAL.

THE SECOND FLOOR CANTILEVERED, EXTERIOR COLUMNS AGAIN, REMEDIES CORP WAS YANG.

I, EXCUSE ME.

IF I MISPRONOUNCE HIS NAME, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THERE ARE THESE ODD WINDOWS AGAIN, KIND OF, I DON'T HAVE TO GO ON BAUHAUS, BUT THERE HAVE PORTHOLE WINDOW.

YOU HAVE THIS RECTANGULAR WINDOW.

UM, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, UH, TREES, UH, BUT THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, THESE TWO PICTURES SHOW VERY CLEARLY THAT WHAT THE OWNER HAS IN MIND WILL COMPLETELY DECIMATE THESE TREES.

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE CITY ARBORIST COULD APPROVE, UM, IS DESIGNED BECAUSE TO APPROVE IT WILL DESTROY THESE HERITAGE TREES.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1947.

THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT YEAR FOR MODERN ARCHITECTURE

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IN AMERICA.

THERE WERE A MAJOR AMERICAN SCHOOLS OF ARCHITECTURE.

THEY STARTED TO EMBRACE MODERN DESIGN CONCEPTS LIKE NORTH CAROLINA STATE UNDER HENRY CAMP OWNER, UH, AND THE WAR'S AFTERMATH.

THERE WAS A DESIRE TO BREAK WITH THE PAST.

IT'S EASY TO IMAGINE THE DESIGNER OF 1500, 500, HIS OR HER HOUSE TO DO THE SAME THING.

AND IT'S DIAMOND ANNIVERSARY.

75 YEARS LATER, WE ARE LUCKY THIS LITTLE HOUSE STILL STANDS.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT MESSENGER FROM THE PAST SOLUTION.

HE HAS PLENTY OF ROOM IN THE REAR OF THE LOT.

THERE'S NO HERITAGE TREES EXCEPT THE ONES THAT ARE BUDDY'S HOUSE.

YOU CAN GO ONTO THEM AND CONNECT, AND HE'S GOT ALL THE ROOM IN THE WORLD TO BUILD WHATEVER HE WANTS.

HE DID PURCHASE THE HOUSE AND HE WENT TO CONTRACT IN JUNE CAVEAT EMPTOR HE KNEW HE WAS IN HISTORIC DISTRICT.

ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT TIME, UH, EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, FOR THE SPEAKER YOU LIVED NEXT DOOR AT 1503, CORRECT? DO YOU HAVE A SEPARATE DINING ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE? DO I HAVE A SEPARATE? NO.

DO YOU HAVE THREE BEDROOMS? NO.

UM, I HAVE TWO BEDROOMS AND, UH, THERE'S A REAR GARAGE HAS A STUDIO OVER THE GARAGE THAT GARAGE REPLACED THE STRUCTURE, THE SAME FOOTPRINT, SAME IDEA.

I ASKED THAT FOR A REASON BECAUSE I FOUND IT AN OLD NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT REFERS TO BOTH HOUSES.

AND I I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE IS WET.

THERE WAS THREE BEDROOMS IN THE HOUSE BEFORE I BOUGHT IT.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS PAULA KOFMAN WOW, NEVER HAVE I SEEN SO MUCH PASSION FOR THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS GOING ON ABOUT THIS HOUSE.

PEOPLE JUST REALLY LIKE THIS HOUSE A WHOLE LOT, AND IT'S DIFFERENT.

SO KIND OF AT THE STRANGE THING IS A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE BUY HOUSES AND THEN THEY REALIZE WHAT IT WAS THERE BEFORE, THEY KIND OF LIKED WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.

SO SOMETIMES IT'S THE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE DEVELOPERS ARE TAKING THE SMALLER HOUSES, MAKING SOMETHING REALLY BIG THAT THE BUYERS MAYBE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED SOMETHING SMALLER.

SO I, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE OWNER WOULD POSSIBLY WORK WITH YOUR DESIGN COMMITTEE TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT THE HOUSE ITSELF COULD BE EXPANDED TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND MAKE SURE WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT A THREE STORY HOUSE, THAT THAT HOUSE DOESN'T CREATE SHADOW ON THE HOUSES NEXT DOOR.

THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE SEE A LOT AND OF COURSE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TREES ARE NOT HARMED IN ANY WAY BY THE CONSTRUCTION.

THANK YOU, MS. COSMIN.

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION JOINING US BY PHONE.

UH, THE FIRST IS SYDNEY SEIFERT.

HI, MY NAME IS SEE SEEKER AND I LEFT.

PARDON ME, SYDNEY.

HOLD ON.

I WILL CALL FOR ADDITIONAL OR OPPOSING SPEAKERS AFTER THOSE WHO REGISTERED IN ADVANCE.

ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD SYDNEY.

HI, MY NAME IS SYDNEY CIFOR AND I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AS OTHER SUBSET, BEFORE 1505.

ALAMEDA IS A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE THAT SHOULD NOT BE COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED.

UM, IF POSSIBLE IT'S COMPLETELY UNIQUE.

UM, IT'S BATHHOUSE AND INTERNATIONAL STYLISTIC INFLUENCES CANNOT BE FOUND IN TECH LIKE THIS ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND HONESTLY, I THINK YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND MANY OTHER HOMES IN AUSTIN, LIKE IT EITHER.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST TO THE APPLICANT THAT FITS, YOU KNOW, FIVE ALAMEDA STYLE IS VERY MODERATE AND EASILY TRANSLATABLE FOR FUTURE ADDITIONS THAT WOULD NOT THREATEN ITS CONTRIBUTING STATUS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, OR THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPTIONS FOR A NEW BUILDS THAT WOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AS THE PLANS THEY'VE PROVIDED ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF STUFFED WITH THE STREET AS IT IS.

UM, AS OTHER SUBSET BEFORE ME, THERE ARE VARIOUS TALKS, INCENTIVES, AND BENEFITS TO NOT DEPLOY, NOT DEMOLISHING, UM, CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES, UM, AND THERE ARE MANY COMMUNITY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND FOLKS THAT WOULD BE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU.

OUR NEXT, UH, OPPOSITE, UH, SPEAKER AND OPPOSITION BY PHONE IS AN OWL AMMAN, A MOTTO.

ARE YOU THERE AL? MAYBE WE LOST HIM.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

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SO I THINK IT'S THE OTHER WAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

SO, UM, I WANT TO, UM, STRESS THAT I APPRECIATE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS COMMENTS, UH, BECAUSE THE SPEAKERS HAVE, UM, CAUSED ME TO REFLECT ON MANY OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT AND I'LL BE BRIEF.

UM, THE TREES ARE A MAJOR CONCERN OF MINE WITH THE NEW PROPOSED, UH, STRUCTURE, THE, UH, BAUHAUS DESIGN, UH, I REITERATE IS UNIQUE.

IT'S NOT ONLY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT TO AUSTIN.

UH, THE THIRD THING THAT I WOULD POINT OUT AND HAS ALREADY BEEN POINTED OUT IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE, THE MODERN DESIGN OF THE HOUSE AND THE LAND THAT EXISTS ON THAT PROPERTY, UNUSED, I CAN EASILY SEE EXTENSIONS AND EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING DESIGN.

AND THEN THE FINAL POINT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT WE HAPPEN TO KNOW ONE OF THE FORMER OWNERS OF THE HOUSE.

WHO'S DR.

MARY JOHNSON.

UH, SHE WAS A WELL-KNOWN, UH, PEDIATRIC ONCOLOGIST HERE IN TOWN.

UH, SHE HAD INDICATED TO US, UH, SEVERAL TIMES THAT, UH, SHE DID NOT DO ANYTHING.

SHE BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN THE, IN THE EIGHTIES THAT SHE DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO THE HOUSE OTHER THAN MINOR RENOVATIONS.

AND SHE HAD ALWAYS TOLD US THAT IT WAS A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE.

SO I WANT TO REITERATE THAT ON INFORMATION AND BELIEF.

I BELIEVE THAT THE TWO STORY STRUCTURE IS THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A SECOND STORY THAT WAS ADDED TO THE PROPERTY BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH ONE OF THE FORMER OWNERS.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, THAT HOUSE REMAINED JUST BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE CHARACTER THAT IT BRINGS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT STREET IN PARTICULAR, ESPECIALLY BEING ACROSS THE STREET FROM LITTLE STACEY PARK.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

AND IF I HAVE ANY TIME REMAINING, I YIELD BACK.

THAT IS NOT OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS DUE TO TRADE TO TRADE MINUTES, BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR BRIEF REMARKS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION IN THE AUDIENCE NOW COME DOWN? YEP.

YEP.

INCLUDING ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS, UH, CONSIDERED TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS MARY MCLEOD.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? SORRY.

I'M A LITTLE HOARSE.

I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS DEMOLITION REQUEST YESTERDAY.

ALTHOUGH I LIVE VERY TO THIS HOUSE, UM, I'VE LIVED IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS FOR 50 YEARS.

WHY DID I WANT TO LIVE IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS? THE WONDERFUL VARIETY OF ARCHITECTURE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE TREES, BUT THE FEEL IT'S OF WHAT IT OFFERS TO AUSTIN AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING QUITE LIKE IT IN THE CITY.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO NEW CONSTRUCTION.

I'M NOT EVEN OPPOSED TO ALL DEMOLITION.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT WOULD WE BE GETTING INSTEAD? AND WHAT ARE WE DESTROYING IF WE DO THAT? I THINK THAT THERE'S A HOUSE THAT'S THERE NOW DEFINITELY HAS ARCHITECTURAL MERIT.

IT IS A UNIQUE STRUCTURE.

I THINK THAT THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT WAS SHOWN INITIALLY DOES NOT DO IT JUSTICE.

UM, I THINK THAT IT'S A VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION TO TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND TO AUSTIN, AND IT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY TO DESTROY THIS HOUSE.

I THINK THAT THERE IS ROOM, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID ON THIS LOT FOR AN ADDITION TO THIS HOUSE TO KEEP THE GENERAL LOOK FROM THE STREET.

UM, MR. LADD ALREADY MENTIONED THE HOUSE AT THE CORNER OF MONROE AND NEW NAME, WHICH THE DEVELOPER LATER WAS VERY GLAD HE HAD NOT DESTROYED, WHICH WAS HIS INITIAL INTENTION.

THAT HOUSE WAS RATED FIVE STARS WITH AUSTIN GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM.

IT WAS ON THE COOL HOUSE TOUR.

IT IS A MUCH ADMIRED HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO THE ONE IN QUESTION IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLES OF RENOVATION THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN WHERE THE STREET VIEW IS NOT AT ALL DESTROYED, BUT JUST AN AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL HOME BUILT BEHIND IT.

AND I THINK IF THE BUILDER WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER WHAT MIGHT BE DONE WITH THIS PROPERTY, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GIVE SUGGESTIONS OF OTHER FINE RENOVATIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE NOT DESTROYED THE CHARACTER.

I MYSELF WAS A BUILDER AND DESIGNER FOR MANY YEARS.

I'VE BUILT A NUMBER OF HOUSES IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND DONE MANY REMODELINGS,

[03:45:01]

UM, AND I MADE EVERY ATTEMPT TO MAKE MY HOUSES FIT INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY IN REGARD TO SCALE.

AND THAT IS DEFINITELY BEING DESTROYED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE A LITTLE VARIETY.

WE LIKE VARIETY, BUT THE SCALE OF SOME OF THESE NEW HOUSES COMING IN IS OUTRAGEOUS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT WOULD WE BE LOSING AND WHAT WOULD BE, WILL HE BE GETTING INSTEAD? THANK YOU, MS. MCCLOUD, MS. MCLAREN IN THE 50 YEARS THAT YOU'VE LIVED IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS, HAS THIS ALWAYS HAD THAT UPPER SECTION.

OH, AS LONG AS I REMEMBER IT.

AND I'VE LIVED ON AUTOMATED FOR 40 YEARS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? UM, SORRY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FRONT COLUMNS IN THE HOUSE, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE WASN'T A SECOND FLOOR.

IT'S VERY CLEAR.

THERE WERE TWO STORIES TO BEGIN WITH.

I'M NO ARCHITECT, BUT IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE HOUSE, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION, UH, OUR PROPERTY OWNER IS STILL ON THE PHONE, MR. MATT SCHWALBE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, REBUT.

AND I JUST SAY, I'D LIKE TO JUST THANK EVERYBODY THAT HAS JOINED US AND FOR ALL OF THEIR OPINIONS, THEY'VE SHARED.

I LIVE IN TRAVIS SITES AS WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, I I'D LOVE A LOT OF THE CRAFT MEN HOUSES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I DO LOVE THE TREES AT THE BACK OF THE LOT AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT THE LOT.

WE TOOK THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION STRONGLY WHEN WE WERE, UM, KIND OF GOING INTO THE NEW DESIGN OF THE NEW HOUSE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND AS I WAS SAYING, I AM FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THE HISTORIC CRAFTSMAN HOUSES THROUGHOUT TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

UM, BUT I DON'T FEEL THAT THIS HOUSE KIND OF FALLS UNDER THAT CATEGORY OF SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED IN 1982.

UM, AND THEN, UH, I'LL JUST QUOTE, CLOSE ON THAT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I W I WOULD LIKE TO, IF THE APPLICANT IS STILL ON THE LINE, I WOULD ASK WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU THINK WAS SIGNIFICANTLY ALTERED IN 1982? MR. SWAB, WHERE YOU STILL AVAILABLE? I GUESS, I GUESS NOT.

WE MUST HAVE LOST HIM.

UM, IF THERE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, UH, I WILL LIKE TO ASK, UH, WE ARE APPROACHING 10 O'CLOCK AND WE STILL HAVE NOT INCLUDING THIS CASE SIX OTHER ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO YOUR MEYERS, I'LL MOVE THAT WE EXTEND TILL 10.

DO I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING TIL 10 30, RAISE YOUR HAND, SAY AYE.

UH, ALL BUT ONE MR. FEATHERSTON I'M WITH THEM.

I'M WITH THEM.

WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND TILL 10 30.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION OF STAFF BEFORE WE HAVE AN ACTION.

UH, YOU SAY IN YOUR REPORT THAT, UM, THE BUILDING, UH, AS FAR AS THE CRITERIA ARE CONCERNED, DOES NOT APPEAR TO CONVEY ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE.

THAT THAT WOULD BE ONLY BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU INTERPRETED AS POTENTIALLY AN ADDITION OF A SECOND FLOOR IN 1982.

BUT IF WE CAN DETERMINE RELATIVELY CLEARLY THAT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE, WOULD THAT OPINION CHANGE THAT THAT WOULD, YES, YES.

THAT WAS BASED ON, UH, AGAIN, WHAT I'VE FOUND IN OUR PERMIT DATABASE.

UM, IT'S PHRASED IN A WAY THAT SEEMED VERY CLEAR TO ME WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT, DESPITE NOT HAVING THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION ADDITION TO CREATE TWO STORY RESIDENCE IS, IS SPECIFICALLY HOW IT'S NOTED IN THERE.

UM, I DO KNOW THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER HAS SOME PERMIT RECORDS.

UH, IF THIS IS IN THERE, IT'S DURING A PERIOD IN TIME THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NECESSARILY HAVE IN OUR PERMIT SYSTEM, WE HAVE ACCESS TO SCANS OF, FOR OLDER BUILDING PERMITS, UH, THAT ARE THE SAME AS WHAT IS AT THE HISTORY CENTER.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NECESSARILY HAVE PERMIT RECORDS FROM THIS ERA, UM, TO HELP US SUBSTANTIATE WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED IN 1982.

THAT IN 1947, UM, UH, INTERNATIONAL STYLE BUILDING THIS CALIBER WAS, WAS BUILT AND THAT ONLY MINOR CHANGES TO THE PLACE.

AND I'VE JUST TO FOLLOW UP AND CHAIR MYERS, I THINK WHERE ARE WE TO HAVE MORE DEFINITIVE INDICATION

[03:50:01]

THIS IS A, THIS IS BY FAR A VERY STRONG CANDIDATE FOR, UM, HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE SHOULD START THAT PROCESS TONIGHT OR WHETHER WE SHOULD REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT.

SO STAFF CAN PROCEED WITH ADDITIONAL RESEARCH AND PERHAPS FOLLOW UP JEREMIAH IS ON YOUR RESEARCH, BUT, UH, I THINK THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT, UH, ISSUE.

AND, UH, I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, UH, COME BACK KNOWING MORE DEFINITIVELY WHAT WE HAVE, UH, AS I SAID, WITH A STRONG INDICATION OF JUST WHAT A, AN IMPORTANT BUILDING THIS WOULD BE, UH, IF WE KNOW THAT, THAT IT HAS A LOT OF ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY.

SO, UM, UNLESS YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT SUGGESTION, UH, I GUESS I COULD SAY, UH, I WILL ONCE AGAIN HAVE POSTPONEMENT OR UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING.

I THINK, I THINK THERE'S SOME EVIDENCE.

I, UM, I PHOTOGRAPHED THIS BUILDING 15 YEARS AGO AND I I'VE BEEN ON SITE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PICK THIS UP, BUT THIS IS MY PHOTO OF THE HOUSE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE CASEMENT, UM, THE STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS AND THE, IN THAT SECOND SECTION, I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WAS THIS, THIS WAS A SMALL HOUSE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT BY 1965, AT LEAST THAT SECOND STORY WAS UP THERE.

AND I, I WOULD, IT'S MY INSTINCT THAT THE SECOND STORY WAS PROBABLY ADDED PRETTY SHORTLY AFTER THE FIRST STORY, THE CASEMENT WINDOWS MATCH, UH, AS, UH, THE GENTLEMEN SAID THE, THE, THE PIPE CONSTRUCTION WAS ALL THERE.

AND, UM, I THINK THIS IS, I THINK THIS IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED IN 1982 WAS PROBABLY THE SECOND STORY, UH, ROOFTOP DECK, UM, THIS, THIS HOUSE APPEARS TO DATE FROM THE LATE FORTIES, VERY EARLY FIFTIES IN PERSON.

SO WHERE ARE WE TO MAKE A REQUEST THAT STAFF DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH? WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT? I WOULD SUGGEST POSTPONING IT AND, AND ASKING STAFF TO DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH EITHER TO CONFIRM.

I, I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO CONFIRM, UM, THAT THIS EITHER WAS AN ORIGINAL PART OF THE HOUSE OR NOT.

AND THEN LET ME MAKE THAT MOTION THEN TO REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT TO OUR MARCH MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING STAFF PROVIDE US ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? OKAY.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM TREY MCWHORTER.

UM, THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE AND, UM, ASK STAFF, GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME FURTHER RESEARCH, UH, POSSIBLY AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER.

I THINK THERE WERE JUST SOME RED FLAGS ON THIS AND, UM, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

SO, UM, IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, LET ME KNOW.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS SCENE NINE.

WE HAVE C 10, 18 0 3.

KEN WOULD MOVE TO CONSENT.

POSTPONEMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THEN WE

[3.C.13. HR-2022-012669 – 2108 Kenwood Ave. – Consent Travis Heights – Fairview Park National Register District]

HAVE C 13.

THIS IS 2108 KENWOOD, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, ITEM C 13 IS A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, UH, AT THE REAR OF 2,108 KENWOOD AVENUE.

UH, THE PROPOSED 80 YEARS, TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT WITH AN ATTACHED CAR COURT UNCOVERED WITH DECK AND A ROOF DECK.

IT IS CLOUD IN FIBER CEMENT SIDING WITH METAL CABLE RAILINGS AT THE ROOF DECK AND THE STAIRWELL.

AND I'D HAD SIX WINDOWS WITH HEARING PROPORTIONS AT EACH ELEVATION.

UH, THE PROJECT MEETS SOME OF THE APPLICABLE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, AND THE PRIMARY BUILDING CONTRIBUTES TO THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO COMMENT ON AND RELEASE THE PLANS.

DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT EITHER IN PERSON OR ON THE LINE? HMM,

[03:55:02]

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

UM, I'M ANDREW SULLIVAN.

SO I'M NOT THE APPLICANT.

I'M THE HOMEOWNER.

UM, MY WIFE, MARY BETH, AND I LIVE THERE WITH OUR NINE MONTH OLD AND OUR DOG.

UH, SHE LEFT TO GO HOME, UH, TO RELIEVE OUR BABYSITTER.

UM, AS YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IN OUR PLANS, WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO DO ANYTHING TO THE MAIN HOUSE.

UM, REALLY THIS ADU WILL ALLOW US TO HOPEFULLY ONE DAY, COME BACK HERE AND SAY THAT WE'VE LIVED IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS FOR 50 YEARS.

UH, IT'LL GIVE US SOMEWHERE TO HAVE MY GRANT.

UH, MY, UH, MY, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW STAY WHEN SHE COMES TO HELP US OUT WITH THE KIDS.

UM, MY WIFE IS AN INTERIOR DESIGNER AND HAS A BUNCH OF STUFF AROUND THE HOUSE.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF A FLEX SPACE FOR US TO UTILIZE REALLY, TO, TO ALLOW US TO STAY IN THE HOME, UM, FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

UH, WE LOVE TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND, UH, THE INTENT OF THIS DESIGN IS TO, UH, HAVE IT REALLY FIT IN WITH OUR HOME, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS BUILT IN 1939.

UM, WE LOVE OUR QUIRKY COLD DRAFTY, 1939 HOMES.

UM, BUT APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN HERE AND SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS.

AND OBVIOUSLY, IF ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE OWNER? OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

WE DID HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGN UP AN OPPOSITION AND MS. PAULA, KOFMAN REALLY PAULA ONLY REASON THAT I OPPOSED THIS HOUSE BECAUSE I HADN'T SEEN IT BEFORE.

ACTUALLY WE ENCOURAGE 80 VIEWS.

AND SO, BECAUSE IT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADU WOULDN'T DETRACT FROM THE DESIGN, BUT IT'S, IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO BUILD A, TO USE, TO, UM, MAKE THESE SMALLER HOUSES WORK FOR EXPANDING FAMILIES.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? DID, UH, MR. SULLIVAN, DID YOU WANT TO REBUT? NO.

I THINK THERE'S NOTHING REBUTTABLE.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECOND? OKAY.

I GOT A, SO MOVE FROM COMMISSIONER HIND SET THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER COOK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

RAISE YOUR HAND, SAY AYE.

UH, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO I HEAR MOTION ON THE CASE, YOUR MEYERS? UH, I MOVED, UH, THE APPROVAL, UH, AND I BELIEVE WE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE MADE COMMENTS.

UH, THOUGH I, FOR ONE, I BELIEVE THAT THE ATU IS APPROPRIATE AND AS FAR ENOUGH BACK, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, IT WILL NOT DETRACT FROM THE OVERALL BENEFIT OF THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.

SO AGAIN, MY MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.

A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE FOR, FOR THE, UH, THINK THAT WAS COMMISSIONER COOK.

YOU TOOK THE SECOND ON THE MOTION.

THAT'S OKAY.

WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

WE'RE FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP.

I'VE JUST KIND OF NODDING OFF HERE.

NOT REALLY.

OF TENANTS OVER THE YEARS, UH, ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS, THE LONGEST TENANT BEING AUTO AND ELEANOR SCHNEIDER FROM 1944 TO 1952, UM, MR. SCHNEIDER WAS EMPLOYED BY CONCORDIA UNIVERSITY, THE 2020 UNIVERSITY WINDSOR HYDE PARK SURVEY LIST, THE AS POTENTIALLY CONTRIBUTING TO A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

[3.D.1. PR-2022-000823 – 102 E. 46th St. – Consent postponement to March 28, 2022]

D ONE, THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN MYERS.

I DIDN'T SEE ONE, UH, IS A PROPOSAL TO PARTIALLY DEMOLISHED AND CONSTRUCT AN ADDITION TO A 1940 DUPLEX.

AND THIS IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

IS THAT RIGHT? IT WAS PULLED, IT WAS, IT WENT, IT WENT FROM CONSENT POSTPONEMENT TO DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, AND THEN IT WAS BACK TO DISCUSSION.

EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU CALLUM.

OH, NO WORRIES.

I MAY NEED TO PULL IN MS. COLLINS, MY COLLEAGUE, UM, TO, TO CLARIFY THE, UH, THE PERMIT SITUATION, BUT, UH, BUT FOR NOW, UM, THAT THERE'S A MINIMAL TRADITIONAL GABLE AND WINGS, UH, WOOD AND MASONRY CONSTRUCTION DUPLEX, UH, ON THE CORNER OF SPEEDWAY AND 46TH STREET.

UH, THE ENTRY IS ORIENTED SOUTH TOWARDS 46TH STREET AND COMPRISED OF WHITE STONE MASONRY WITH A SINGLE DOOR ENTRY AND UNCOVERED CONCRETE PORCH SPANNING THE FRONT OF THE WING PORTION OF THE HOUSE.

UH, THE REMAINING EXTERIOR PORTIONS ARE, UH, HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING RESEARCH INDICATES THAT THIS DUPLEX MAY HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THIS LOCATION AROUND 1964, UH, FROM 33 13 EAST AVENUE.

UM, AND DIRECTORY LISTINGS INDICATE THAT IT WAS FIRST CONSTRUCTED THERE IN 1940.

UM, IF IT WAS INDEED MOVED FROM EAST AVENUE, THE DUPLEX WAS RENTED BY A VARIETY

[04:00:01]

UM, AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE POSTPONEMENT AND EXTENDED INVITATION TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, TO THE APPLICANT.

UH, IF THE COMMISSION DECIDES NOT TO POSTPONE DEF RECOMMENDS, UH, THAT THEY ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, BUT RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

STEPH HAS, UM, RECOMMENDED THAT A POSTPONEMENT, UM, LIKE WE HAVE SPEAKERS, WE HAVE APPLICANTS WHO ARE HERE.

SO THE APPLICANT, THE FIRST APPLICANT WE HAVE REGISTERED IS HEATHER, DO YOU WANT TO YEAH.

STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND STAYING HERE THIS EVENING.

MY NAME IS HEATHER HUNSICKER AND I'M THE HOMEOWNER.

AND I BROUGHT HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING, MY HUSBAND AND OUR ARCHITECT.

UM, AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU CONSENT TO THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED.

SO MY HUSBAND AND I BROUGHT, BOUGHT THIS HOUSE 12 YEARS AGO WHILE MY HUSBAND WAS DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN.

AND AS SOON AS HE GOT TRANSITIONED FROM THE ARMY TO THE RESERVES, WE MOVED INTO THE HOUSE THE NEXT YEAR, AND WE REMODELED IT INTO A SINGLE HOME.

IT IS NO LONGER A DUPLEX.

IT HAS NOT BEEN FOR NINE YEARS.

UM, NOW WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE AGED THREE AND SIX, AND WE SIMPLY NEED MORE ROOM FOR THEM TO GROW.

WE ONLY HAVE TWO BEDROOMS AND WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE FOUR BEDROOMS. UM, WE, WE DO LOVE THE HOUSE.

OH, I SHOULD MENTION THAT I SENT IN A SLIDESHOW.

UM, SO IF, IF MY, MY FIRST PICTURE IS SIMILAR, BUT SLIDE TWO SHOWS THE FRONT OF OUR HOUSE, AS YOU CAN SEE HOW IT IS NOW.

UH, THERE YOU GO.

UM, SO WE LOVE THE HOUSE AND WE REALLY WANT TO PRESERVE IT.

UH, WE DID MAKE CHANGES ALREADY.

AS I SAID, WE TURNED THE HOUSE FROM A DUPLEX INTO A SINGLE HOME NINE YEARS AGO WITH A PERMIT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT DIDN'T COME UP IN THE CITY'S RESEARCH.

UM, BUT W THOSE, SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE, HAVE HAPPENED TO THE HOUSE ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THE STAFF'S OF BACKGROUND.

SO, NUMBER ONE OF THOSE IS THAT IT'S NOT A DUPLEX.

AND IF YOU GET SKIPPED TO SLIDES NINE THROUGH 12, JUST SORT OF PROVES THROUGH THEM THAT SHOWS THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE AS IT IS NOW.

SO I KNOW YOU GUYS, AREN'T SUPER CONCERNED WITH INTERIORS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IT'S A SINGLE HOME AND WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN RESPECTFUL OF THE HOME.

WE LOVE IT.

YOU KNOW, WE WANNA, WE WANT TO KEEP THE HOUSE, WHAT WE HAVE THERE.

WE'RE HOPING TO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT ISN'T ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO CHANGE.

UM, SO SOME OTHER CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE PAST, IT'S NOT WOOD SIDING.

IT'S BEEN HARDY BOARD SINCE WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE 12 YEARS AGO.

I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT WOOD SIDING.

AND THE WINDOWS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

ALL OF THE DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS IN THE, THE HOUSE, EXCEPT FOR ONE HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPLACED FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY.

AND THE SINGLE REMAINING WINDOW THAT IS LEFT TO BE CHANGED IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

IT'S ONLY VISIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORS AND NOT TO THE STREET SIDE.

WE ARE A CORNER HOUSE, BUT THAT WON'T BE VISIBLE.

UM, IT'LL JUST MATCH ALL THE OTHER WINDOWS AS THEY EXIST NOW.

AND SO WE DESIGNED IT, WE STARTED DESIGNING THE HOUSE CHANGE.

THE SECOND FLOOR ADDITION WHEN OUR, UH, SIX YEAR OLD WAS THREE, AND THE FINAL PLANS FOR THIS WERE READY LAST SPRING, BEFORE THERE WAS ANY HISTORIC DESIGNATION STANDARDS WERE ADOPTED LAST MARCH.

UM, WE WANT TO BUILD WHY THE WHILE THE KIDS ARE YOUNG AND TIME IS PASSING.

SO TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE HERE.

UM, WE DO, AS I SAID, WANT TO KEEP THE TRADITIONAL APPEARANCE OF THE HOUSE.

WE JUST WANT TO GO UP.

WE WANT TO ADD MORE TO WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

WE PLAN TO ADD 765 SQUARE FEET TO THE EXISTING 1,575.

AND IF YOU, UM, I'M SORRY, IF YOU SKIPPED A SLIDE 13, YOU CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S NOT A MASSIVE CHANGE.

IT'S JUST THE, THE LINE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE THE TWO V'S COME TOGETHER.

THAT'S EXISTING ROOF LINE.

SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE PART, THE NEW PORTION WILL BE THE WHAT'S ABOVE THAT.

NOW WE DO HAVE CONSTRUCTION RESTRAINTS.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I MEANT, I MEANT TO MENTION, UM, THE STAFF REFERS TO A PROPOSED HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT HOW CAN SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN THROUGH ANY KIND OF DUE PROCESS TERMINATION, BE A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

WE'RE NOT IN THE HYDE PARK, HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS IS A PROPOSED HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH I'VE NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE, WHICH WAS NEVER MENTIONED TO US.

WE'VE BEEN THERE 12 YEARS.

UM, NO, NO NEWS OF THIS.

AND THEN ALSO, HOW CAN IT BE HISTORIC IF IT WAS MOVED TO THIS SPOT? OUR NEIGHBORS, WHEN WE MOVED IN AND TOLD US HE GREW UP, UH, VISITING HIS GRANDMOTHER NEXT DOOR, AND HE SAW THAT HOUSE MOVED THERE.

IT WAS A TRAILER HOME BEFORE OUR

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HOUSE.

UM, WE HAVE SOME CONSTRUCTION RESTRAINTS.

WE CAN'T POP OUT ONTO THE SIDE BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE CORNER LOT.

AND SO THE STREET'S SET BACK PREVENTS THAT, UM, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN SLIDE FOUR, SORRY TO MAKE IT POP AROUND.

AND WE CAN'T GO TO THE BACK BECAUSE OF THE HERITAGE TREES, WHICH ARE ALSO IN THERE.

AND PICTURE EIGHT AGAIN, SORRY, THIS IS A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER.

UM, WE LOVE OUR TREES.

WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WILL IMPACT THEM.

AND WE DON'T PLAN TO, WE WILL JUST ADD ANOTHER 50% OR SO ABOVE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE.

IN SHORT, WE LOVE THE HOME AND WE'VE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS OF IT FOR 12 YEARS, AND WE SIMPLY NEED TO ADD TO IT FOR OUR KIDS.

UM, AND AS YOU'VE SEEN IN THE SLIDE SHOW, I'LL JUST RECAP.

THE SIDING IS, IS NOT WOOD SIDING ANY LONGER.

THE WINDOWS HAVE ALREADY BEEN CHANGED.

THE DOORS ARE NEW.

THIS IS NOT A DUPLEX.

UM, SO STAFF'S BACKGROUND INFORMATION IS NOT COMPLETE OR UP TO DATE.

UM, AND WITH THAT, I'LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT COMES.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OWNER? OKAY.

UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER IN FAVOR.

DID EITHER OF YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY A LOT, BUT IT WAS A QUICK, MY NAME IS TOBY HUNZIKER, I'M HER HUSBAND.

VERY PROUD OF HER, OBVIOUSLY.

UM, I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR AND ALSO THE ARCHITECT SHE FAILED TO MENTION IS HER FATHER.

MY FATHER-IN-LAW HE'S, UH, ABOUT THE SAME AGE AS THE PROPERTY.

UM, GOOD STRUCTURE.

I LOVE HIM VERY MUCH.

HE'S A GOOD FATHER-IN-LAW.

IT IS GETTING LATE.

WELL, HI, I'M JERRY.

LUNO THE ARCHITECT AND FATHER.

WE, WE STARTED A THING THAT WE HAD A STRONG NEED FOR SOME GRANDKIDS FACE.

AND, UH, WE, UH, REALIZED THAT, UH, WE, WE COULD, WE COULD ONLY PLACE WAS TO GO SOME ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND THAT'S WHAT WE PURSUED.

UH, WE TOOK THE, THE FRONT OF THE HALF OF THE STREET IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS ALL THE SAME.

WE MOVED BACK A THIRD OF THE WAY AND THEN ADDED SOME SECOND FLOOR.

UH, WE KEPT ALL OF THE SAME, UH, MATERIALS THAT, UH, UH, OUR OWN, THE PRESENT HOUSE.

NOW IT'D BE THE SAME, UH, ROOF, UH, MATERIALS ACTUALLY WILL BE THE SAME SIDING.

IT'LL LOOK THE SAME.

WE ADDED, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, UH, STUCCO, JUST, UH, ON A STAIR.

WELL, GETTING UP, UH, THE STUCCO IS A MASONRY PRODUCT.

THAT'S WILL BE COLORED IN THE SAME COLOR OF THE MANOR AS A AUSTIN STONE.

THAT'S ALL AT THE FRONT FACADE.

SO, UH, IT DOES HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, MACHINERY OR STUCCO ON THE, ON THE SMALL SEVERAL WALLS THAT ARE IN THE EDGE OF THE STAIR.

UH, BUT WE TRIED TO KEEP THE SAME, UH, UH, MATERIALS AND LOOK AND IMAGE FROM THE STREET.

AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET THOSE GRANDKIDS A BEDROOM.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OH, OKAY.

UH, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

THE APPLICATION IS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, THAT.

UH, DO YOU MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE? YES.

AND SECOND.

UM, YOU CAN TALK TO STAFF ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS LATER, BUT THE MOTION IS TO, UH, APPROVE IT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ANY DISCUSSION.

I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY THAT.

NORMALLY.

I WOULD, UH, WHEN I, WHEN WE SEE AN OWNER THAT, THAT LOVES THE HOUSE, I WOULD INVITE THEM TO THE REVIEW COMMITTEE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEIR PROGRAM, GIVEN THE TREES, GIVEN THE, THE, THE SIDE LOT, THE PROGRAM THAT THEY OBVIOUSLY NEED IS, UH, THEY'RE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN GIVEN THE PROFILE COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER.

DID YOU WANT TO ASK, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT? OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND SAYING AYE.

2 3 0 1 EAST SIXTH STREET.

IT PASSES THE MOTION CARRIES.

GO FOR IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, MR. HUNTSIGER D

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THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

UH, ITEM D TWO IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH THE CIRCUIT 1919 COMMERCIAL BUILDING 3 0 1 WEST SIXTH STREET IS A SINGLE-STORY

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BRICK WAREHOUSE WITH PRISMIC FENESTRATION, A CORNER ENTRANCE AND ART DECO CORNICE DETAILING THE BUILDING AT 3 0 1 WEST STICKS WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 19, 19, BUT A LOT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN IN USE OF THE COMMERCIAL AND DWELLING SPACE.

SINCE AT LEAST THE 1890S PER BOARD MAPS ON A DEL CORTO SOLD A LOT, UH, AT SIX AND LAVACA TO THE SAN ANTONIO BASED REGULAR ICE CREAM COMPANY.

IN 1919, IT BECAME A MANUFACTURING AND SALES CENTER WITH PLATE GLASS WINDOW TO DISPLAY THE STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY AND ENAMELED INTERIOR TO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND THE 1920S, THE AUSTIN ICE CREAM COMPANY HAD PURCHASED THE BUILDING AS THEIR AUSTIN HEADQUARTERS, MANUFACTURING, VIOLET CROWN ICE CREAM PRODUCTS.

IN 1926, A GROUP OF TEMPLE INVESTORS WITH THE BELL ICE CREAM COMPANY HAD PURCHASED IT.

UH, THERE, THE BUILDING KEPT THE VIOLET CROWN NAME, UH, AND MANUFACTURING STAMPS BY 1931, THE EXPANDING BELL COMPANY PLAN TO CONSTRUCT A NEW FACTORY AT 10TH AND GUADALUPE.

AND THE WORD RATHER REFRIGERATION COMPANY PURCHASED THREE OR ONE WEST SIXTH DURING THE 1930S, AFTER A BRIEF STINT AT TWO, A ONE WEST SIXTH MORATH AND CURTIS MARSTELLAR MOVED THEIR SEED BUSINESS INTO THE FORMER FACTORY DURING THE LATE 1930S AND EARLY 1940S, THEIR ADVERTISING FOCUSED ON THE WARTIME VICTORY GARDEN EFFORT, AND MORRIS MUST STELLAR, DISPENSED, REGULAR PLANTING ADVICE AS PART OF HIS ROLE AS THE GARDEN COMMITTEE, CHAIRMAN OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THROUGHOUT THE HISTORIC PERIOD, THE SECONDARY BUILDING SHARING A PARTY WALL BEHIND 3 0 1 WEST SIXTH KNOWN THROUGH THE YEARS.

IT WAS 5 0 2, 5 0 4 AND 5 0 6 LAVACA STREET OVER TO A VARIETY OF BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIAL OCCUPANTS.

MOST NOTABLY THE LINDSEY AUTO ELECTRIC COMPANY, LINDSEY AUTO ELECTRIC REMAINED AT THE LAVACA STREET STREET ADDRESS WHERE AT LEAST 20 YEARS BUILDING APPEARS TO RETAIN MODERATE TO HIGH INTEGRITY.

UH, THE NON HISTORIC AWNINGS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.

THE PAINTING OF THE BRICK MAY HAVE OCCURRED DURING THE HISTORIC PERIOD THERE, THE WINDOWS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

THEY DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE ALTERED.

THE ORIGINAL OPENING STAFF IS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINED THAT IT MAY MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

UH, IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF EARLY 20TH CENTURY INDUSTRIAL ARCHITECTURE WITH ART DECO DETAILING.

AND IT SAYS IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE EARLIEST PERIOD OF MODERN REFRIGERATION.

IT OFTEN AND APPEARS TO BE THE ONLY INTACT PURPOSE-BUILT STRUCTURE REMAINING OF THIS TYPE OF ERA WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN WAREHOUSE DISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REGULAR ICE CREAM COMPANY, OFTEN ICE CREAM COMPANY, VIOLET CROWN ICE CREAM, AND THE CAPITAL SEED COMPANY USED BUSINESSES REPRESENT AN ERA OF TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT AND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION AND FOOD PRODUCTION AS WELL AS A VITAL RESOURCE FOR VICTORY GARDENERS.

DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING, UH, BUT SHOULD THE COMMISSION DECIDE AGAINST INITIATION, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS ENCOURAGEMENT OF ADAPTIVE REUSE, UH, AND THEN RELEASE IF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO SPEAKERS? CAUSE WE DO HAVE FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

DID WE WANT TO EXTEND THE MEETING AGAIN AFTER THIS? WE STILL HAVE THREE MORE ITEMS. WHAT TIME IS IT? IT IS 10 18 AND THE PREVIOUS EXTENSION WAS TO 10 30.

I HEAR A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING TILL 11.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

UM, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 IN FAVOR.

THAT'S A MAJORITY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY WE'LL EXTEND.

YOU COULD SNEAK OUT UNDER COVER OF DARKNESS.

NOW DO WE HAVE A APPLICANT OWNER? YEAH, BOTH.

OH, GO AHEAD.

COME FORWARD.

AND STATE YOUR NAME.

I'M LEAH JO WITH JENNER GROUP HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AND OPPOSITION TO THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

UH, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE DEMOLITION PERMIT BE REMOVED AND REALLY BE RELEASED UPON SUBMITTAL OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

I DO HAVE A YEAH.

GREAT.

THANK YOU TO ORIENT YOU ALL.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3 0 1 WEST SIXTH STREET, WHICH IS LOCATED BETWEEN GUADELOUPE AND LAVACA ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF SIXTH AND LAVACA.

IT IS NOT WITHIN THE HISTORIC WAREHOUSE AREA IN THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN.

IT'S A VERY SMALL SITE, UH, 0.14 ACRES ZONE CBD AND THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1919.

YOU CAN SEE THE RELATIVELY RECENTLY ADDED OPENING, WHICH IS VERY, VERY, VERY VISIBLE AND OFF CENTER FROM THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS ABOVE IT.

UM, HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING.

THE PORTION ADDRESS IS 5 0 4 LAVACA LOOKING NORTHWEST ACROSS LAVACA FROM THIS VIEW.

UM,

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UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE MODIFICATIONS I'LL TALK ABOUT SHORTLY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE VIEW OF 3 0 1 WEST SIX FROM LAVACA TO THE SOUTHWEST.

AND THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE CORNER OF IVANKA AND SIXTH NEXT PLEASE.

AND HERE'S THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, UM, FROM THE VIEW ON THE WEST SIXTH STREET.

UH, THE ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS ARE THE TWO CRITERIA THAT STAFF, UM, THAT THE STAFF WERE MENTIONING IN THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS REQUEST FOR THEIR REQUEST.

THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTERISTICS ARE NOT DISTINGUISHING.

UM, BEGINNING WITH THE ARCHITECTURE, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE STRUCTURE MEETS THE DETAILED CRITERIA ESTABLISHED BY THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.

AND IN FACT, THERE ARE MANY, MUCH BETTER EXAMPLES OF THIS STYLE NEARBY AND IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, UM, THERE IS NOT TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATION OR DESIGN IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING ITSELF, SEEMINGLY ONLY IN THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS INSIDE AT ONE POINT.

UM, IT'S NOT RARE NOR IS IT FROM A SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECT BUILDER ARTISAN.

IT SAYS IT IS NOT POSSESSED VALUE AS A PARTICULARLY FINE OR UNIQUE EXAMPLE OF A UTILITARIAN OR VERNACULAR STRUCTURE.

AND IT IS NOT ONE OF A KIND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS 1935 SANBORN MAP THAT THE WRAPAROUND PORCH, UM, WAS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE BUILDING AND WAS, UM, A LARGE INFLUENCE ON THE WAY THAT THE BUILDING MET THE STREET.

UM, WE, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND, AND IT APPEARS THE STAFF WERE ALSO NOT ABLE TO FIND A HISTORIC PHOTO OF THE SITE, BUT KNOWING THAT THIS BUILDING HAD THIS LARGE WRAPAROUND AWNING TELLS US THAT THE FACADE IS CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT TODAY THAN IT WAS HISTORICALLY NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE ON THE PROPERTY DOES NOT RETAIN THE, THE CODES REQUIRED HIGH STANDARD OF INTEGRITY AND TO CLEARLY CONVEY ITS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

AND IT HAS BEEN ALTERED SIGNIFICANTLY.

THE MODIFICATIONS INCLUDE THE NEW OPENING THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, VISIBLE HERE AGAIN IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER AS COMPARED TO THE 2002 PHOTO ON THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF THE SIDE.

UM, AND THE STRUCTURE HAS OBVIOUS HAS ALSO BEEN PAINTED PROBABLY SEVERAL TIMES LIKELY DAMAGING THE BRICK, UH, UNDERNEATH.

UM, AND IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE ORIGINALLY BEEN PAINTED OR AT LEAST THE 5 0 4 LAVACA SECTION DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN PAINTED HISTORICALLY.

UM, AND DUE TO IT BEING AUSTIN COMMON BRICK THAT PAINT CAN NOT BE CHEMICALLY OR REMOVED OR SANDBLASTED WITHOUT SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGING THE BRICKS UNDERNEATH.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE WINDOWS HAVE BEEN REPLACED IN THE EGRESS AND THE PORCH HAVE ALSO BEEN CHANGED.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THERE ARE MANY BETTER EXAMPLES OF THIS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IN THE, IN THE EAST SIXTH STREET, NATIONAL AND LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH HAS ALREADY A PROTECTED DISTRICT AND PROVIDES THE COHESIVITY OF THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES AS OPPOSED TO THIS MODIFIED EXAMPLE, WHICH IS OUT OF CONTEXT NOW THAT THE NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN REMOVED, EACH ARCHITECTURAL ASPECT THAT WAS NOTED ABOUT THIS STRUCTURE IS PRESENT AND WITH MORE INTEGRITY AND THE EAST SIX DISTRICT.

AND I HAVE A SUMMARY OF THOSE ASPECTS HERE.

THE NEXT CRITERIA THAT STAFF REVIEWED IS THE BUILDING'S ASSOCIATION WITH DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.

NONE OF THESE HAVE PARTICULAR SIGNIFICANCE OR, OR HAVE MADE HISTORICALLY IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS.

UM, AS STEPH SAID, BETWEEN 1920 AND 1929, THERE WERE A SERIES OF ICE CREAM COMPANIES HERE IN THE SPACE.

UM, ONE WAS OUT OF SAN ANTONIO AND THEN TWO OTHERS MOVED IN AFTER THAT.

UM, TOTALING, I BELIEVE, UM, 10, LESS THAN 10 YEARS, UM, BETWEEN 1929 AND 39, THE RARE VARIETY OF BUSINESSES IN THE, IN THE SPACE AND THEN BETWEEN 39 AND 59 WAS THE CAPITAL SEED HOUSE.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY THESE ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOT PARTICULARLY STRONG OR UNIQUE AND USING THESE CRITERIA REALLY ANY BUILDING OVER 50 YEARS, IT HAS HAD BUSINESSES IN, IT WOULD QUALIFY FOR HISTORIC, UM, DESIGNATION.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, THE THREE REMAINING CRITERIA OBVIOUSLY NOT MET.

AND SO THE FINAL SLIDE TO CLOSE, UM, AND NOTABLY, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY HISTORIC PHOTOS TO COMPARE THIS TO, BUT THERE ARE VISIBLE AND SUBSTANTIAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE.

WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE BETTER EXAMPLES OF THIS TYPE OF MARKET STRUCTURE THAT ARE ALREADY IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

I WOULD SAY THAT DESIGNATING PROPERTY OVER AND OWNER'S OPPOSITION SHOULD REALLY ONLY BE DONE IN THE HIGHEST AND CLEAR SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND THAT THE STRUCTURE JUST DOES NOT MEET THAT STANDARD.

UH, WITH THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST RELEASE OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT WITH COMPLETION OF THE DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY, THANKS.

I BELIEVE WE ALSO HAVE MR. RICHARD WISE ON THE PHONE IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, SPEAK RICHARD.

UM, ALL RIGHT THEN, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT? ALL RIGHT.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS A RUSSEL HAN HENNY.

SHE SAYS THAT THERE IS NO HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION, BUT THE HELP THEY DID PLAN IN VICTORY GARDENS WAS A KEY PART OF OUR VICTORY IN WORLD WAR II.

I PUT NUMBER TWO,

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THERE'S A HISTORIC ASSOCIATION AND THE POINT NUMBER FOUR, NO COMMUNITY VALUE.

THIS IS A VITAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY OF THE GLBT COMMUNITY, WHICH AS YOU HEARD THERE, BLACK HUMAN, HE WAS OPPRESSED.

WE GLBTQ ARE INDEED HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY MORE OPPRESSED.

IT IS A PLACE FOR LOCAL BARTENDER.

IT IS MORE THAN A COCKTAIL LOUNGE.

IT ALSO SERVES FOOD.

SO SHE IS INCORRECT ON THAT AS WELL.

IT IS ONE OF THE ONLY PLACES WHERE GLBTQ OF ALL PLACES, INCLUDING LESBIANS WERE GOING TO CAN ASSOCIATE IT EVEN CHANGED TO GET A FOOD LICENSE, TO STAY OPEN DURING THE PANDEMIC, THUS GIVING THE GLBT GROUP COMMITTEE A VITAL PLACE TO ASSOCIATE RIGHT AT THE PEAK OF THE PANDEMIC.

FURTHERMORE, SORRY.

I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ME.

I HAVE AUTISM.

IT IS, UH, IT IS STIMULATES THE MIND AND THE SOUL BECAUSE ONE, THE FLAT PART OF THE RAINBOW FLAG IS MUSIC AND SPIRIT KARAOKE ON SUNDAY AND WEDNESDAY TRIVIA NIGHTS, STIMULATING THE BIND ON THURSDAY FOR WA FOR SORT OF THE GATES AND NERDS WHO ARE GOB TO QUEUE AND THEIR ALLIES.

THEY DON'T HAVE THAT AT ANY OF THE OTHER GAY BARS.

IT IS A CRUCIAL PLACE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO ARE NEURO-DIVERSE AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND CLEARLY THE GOP TO QUEUES ARE PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT ADD VALUE.

THEY HAVE THE COMMUNITY VALUE AND ASSOCIATION.

SO I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT DUE TO THE VITAL ASPECT TO THE GLBTQ COMMUNITY.

IT DOES MEET POINT NUMBER FOUR, WHICH YOU HARDLY SPOKE OF.

I RESPECTFULLY MA'AM.

SHE IS INCORRECT ON THIS POINT.

WE GLBT.

IT IS PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT HAS INDEED BEEN HISTORICALLY OPPRESSED AND GIVEN THE RECENT HISTORY OF HOW WE'VE INVOLVED THE COMMUNITY IN THE PANDEMIC.

I RESPECTFULLY THAT IT DOES MEET 0.4 AND DO THE VICTORY GARDEN, WHICH IS A CRUCIAL PART OF WORLD WAR TWO.

IT HAS HISTORICAL VALUE AND IT ACTUALLY PROMOTED THE LINDSEY PLACE ACTUALLY PROMOTED THAT ELECTRIC REFRIGERATOR OR A NECESSITY INSTEAD OF DOCUMENTS.

THAT IS DEFINITELY A HISTORICAL THING TO PROMOTE IT.

AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST INDUSTRIAL STATES, TEXAS, THEREFORE IT DOES MAKE POINT NUMBER TWO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THERE ARE OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE I WAS GOING TO PUT FOR A PROMOTION BECAUSE ONE OF THE STAFF HAS HAD AN ANXIETY ATTACK, BUT I THINK WILL HAVE AN IDEAL TO, TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.

UM, EXCUSE ME, SIR.

I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME.

COULD YOU STAY, I'M SORRY, RUSSELL HANEY TWO.

S'S TWO L'S H AS IN HAM, A AS IN APPLE, N AS IN NOODLES, E AS IN EGG AND Y AS AN YAM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE I HAVE I DONE MAGDALENA? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

MY COMMUNITY TO INTERMINGLE WITH THE OLDER GENERATION.

OUR NEXT REGISTER SPEAKER IS A JASON KOZINSKI.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

COME ON DOWN AND SPEAK YOUR NAME PLEASE.

UM, MY NAME IS .

UM, AND, UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR STAYING LATE.

UM, I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT I REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE, UH, THE LGBT COMMUNITY IS AWARE THAT THIS BUILDING IS BEING TARGETED FOR DEMOLITION, UH, JUST BY ASKING AROUND.

SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, I DID WANT TO ASK FOR IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR AN EXTENSION ON A DECISION TONIGHT.

UM, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S A COMPLETE CONSENSUS BEING THAT THIS BUILDING IS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE GAY COMMUNITY, LGBT COMMUNITY.

UM, THESE, THESE BUILDINGS ARE NOT JUST BARS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THESE ARE PLACES WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO CONGREGATE AND FEEL SAFE.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, AUSTIN IS PROUDLY A BLUE CITY IN A RED STATE, AND WE HAVE, WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE SAFE SPACES FOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AND PEOPLE THAT DON'T ALWAYS FEEL SAFE TO WALK AROUND IN PUBLIC.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, I'M HOPING THAT GIVEN MORE TIME, AS YOU KNOW, IN THE LGBT COMMUNITY, WE HAVE BRIGHT MINDS THAT COULD COME TOGETHER AND FIND A SOLUTION, UH, TO PRESERVING THIS AMAZING BAR.

UM, IT'S CALLED THE IRON BEAR AS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE SEEN.

UM, BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS BAR HAS ALSO BEEN DISPLACED ONCE BEFORE.

UM, IT USED TO BE LOCATED ON RED RIVER AND SEVENTH.

IT WAS CLOSED DOWN.

AND THEN WE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CLOSER TO OUR FAMOUS, UM, FOURTH STREET, UM, WHICH IS A SAFE HAVEN FOR THE LGBT COMMUNITY.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, IT'S LOCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THAT STREET.

UM, AND IT PROVIDES A SPACE FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF

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PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS BAR IS ALSO A SUBCATEGORY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, IT CREATES A SAFE SPACE FOR PEOPLE THAT, UM, CAME OUT EARLIER, UH, IN OUR HISTORY, UM, SUCH AS THE SEVENTIES AND THE EIGHTIES.

UM, AND THIS IS A PLACE WHERE VETERANS, UM, THAT ALSO IDENTIFY WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY IS ABLE TO GATHER AND BE SAFE.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, I BASICALLY WOULD LIKE TO JUST ASK FOR MORE TIME, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE AN EXTREMELY TIGHT ORGANIZATION AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, I FEEL LIKE OUR, OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES A LITTLE MORE TIME TO GATHER AND TO COUNSEL, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE RIGHT NOW, UM, THEY'RE MADE AWARE OF SUCH AN IMPORTANT DECISION, SOMETHING THAT COULD DEFINITELY AFFECT US AS A COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION.

I'M MR. NICHOLAS.

UH, I'M SORRY.

UH, I CAN'T READ THE HANDWRITING.

NICHOLAS, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.

UM, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.

UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE BAR THAT IS THERE RIGHT NOW IS NOT WITHIN THIS PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE CASE BASED ON.

UM, I THINK THAT IRON BEAR HAS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN IN THIS LOCATION SINCE FEBRUARY OF 2020 THAT SAID WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT TENANT AND SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP THEM FIND ANOTHER LOCATION.

UM, BUT DUE TO CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, WE WOULD ASK THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED SECOND.

A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COOK.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? I'M GOING TO MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS CASE TO OUR MARCH MEETING SECOND.

AND I'D LIKE TO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE, TO THE MOTION? UM, UM, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ISSUES WITH HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, BUT, UH, LAST WEEK I BELIEVE, UH, WE LOST 3 0 1 SAN JACINTO.

DIDN'T PASS ON THE SECOND READING.

AS I UNDERSTAND, UH, WE'RE LOSING ALL OF OUR WAREHOUSES DOWNTOWN THE WAREHOUSE, UH, WHERE PEOPLE GATHER PEOPLE OF ALL SORTS, THE GAY AND LESBIAN COMMUNITY KEPT DOWNTOWN ALIVE WHEN IT WAS DYING AND KEPT IT ALIVE IN THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICTS.

AND ALTHOUGH I THINK THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE MUCH OF A CHANCE TO PASS.

I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE GATHERING PLACES, THESE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME TOGETHER, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT WAREHOUSES ARE JUST PHYSICALLY BETTER SUITED FOR GATHERING THE TOWER IS THAT REBUILDING EVERYWHERE ARE CHOKED WITH LOBBIES AND ELEVATOR TOWERS, ELEVATOR SHAFTS, AND, UM, LOADING DOCKS AND TRASH AREAS AND ELECTRICAL VAULTS.

AND THEY'RE JUST NOT THE DESIGN COMMISSION IS DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO MAKE THESE PLEASANT PLACES TO BE, BUT NOTHING COMPARES TO A WAREHOUSE IN TERMS OF PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER.

AND WE ARE CHOKING DOWNTOWN TO DEATH WITH TOWERS AND WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UP.

UH, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS CASE IS GOING TO BE A PARTICULARLY STRONG ONE, BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE HEART OF IT.

NO, THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT ON FOURTH STREET, WHICH I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO SAVE IT IS AN OUTPOURING OF, UH, CULTURAL PASSION ABOUT THESE BUILDINGS AND AT A THING WHERE IT NEEDS TO GET OUT THAT SOMEONE NEEDS TO SPEAK UP AS THESE ARE ALL BEING, I WAS GOING TO MOVE TO, UH, LET IT PASS JUST BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT HAS THESE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, BUT OUR HAND IS BEING FORCED ON ALL OF THESE.

AND I THINK SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT AND PEOPLE NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING TO POSTPONE IT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, CHAIR, LET ME MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY CLEAR THAT THE MOTION INCLUDES A REOPENING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITS CONTINUE.

WOULD YOU INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION? YES.

DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THE MOTION IS TO, UM, REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TO POSTPONE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE REOPENED.

IS THAT AMENABLE? OKAY.

ANY FURTHER

[04:30:01]

UM, THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE AND WE'LL REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF THE MOTION PASSES, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND TO THE MARCH AGENDA.

UH IS AN X 68 0 1 BURNETT ROAD.

MOVING ON TO D 6 20 12 EAST 16TH STREET.

[3.D.5. PR-2022-005907 – 6801 Burnet Rd. – Consent Council District 7]

OH, I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T ADD THAT BACK IN.

SORRY.

AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEMOLISHED, RIGHT? YES.

THIS IS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING BUILT CIRCUIT, 1968, A ONE STORY WOOD FRAME CONSTRUCTION WITH A RED PAINTED BRICK, MASONRY, A VENEER AND A MANSARD ASPHALT ROOF.

UH, THE PATIO AREA AS ENCLOSED AND HAS A STUCCO EXTERIOR TREATMENT WITH WINDOWS.

UH, THE FRISCO SIGN, UM, SHOULD BE NOTED AS PART OF THE BURNETT LANDSCAPE, UH, WAS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

UH, THIS WAS A LOCATION WITH THE FRISCO RESTAURANT FROM 2008 TO 2018.

UH, THE FRISCO'S CLOSING IN 2018 MARKED THE END OF AN 86 YEAR OLD LEGACY BUSINESS INITIALLY OPENED BY HARRY AKIN IN 1932 AT THE CORNER OF SOUTH CONGRESS AND RIVERSIDE.

UM, THIS IS A, A CASE THAT, UH, KIMBERLY COLLINS PUT TOGETHER.

SHE, SHE PUT TOGETHER, UH, SOME REALLY EXCELLENT BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE FRISCO AND IF HARRY AKIN, UH, WHICH IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M GOING TO SKIP OVER, UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT.

UM, STAFF DOES NOT FIND THAT THIS MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION, UH, ON ACCOUNT OF A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE.

THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN 50 YEARS OF AGE.

UH, CERTAINLY THE NIGHTHAWK RESTAURANT AND ITS LATER EMBODIMENT AND THE FRISCO IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

UM, BUT THE FACT THAT THE RESTAURANT OCCUPIED THE BUILDING ONLY FOR A, UM, A 10 YEAR PERIOD WITHIN THE PAST 50 YEARS, UM, WOULD MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE A CASE FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

UM, OTHERWISE IF IT HAD LONGER ASSOCIATIONS AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, INSTEAD OF HAVING MOVED HERE MORE RECENTLY, UM, A CASE COULD BE MADE FOR HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS AND COMMUNITY VALUE.

UM, BUT GIVEN THE RELATIVELY RECENT OCCUPATION OF THE BUILDING, UM, IT, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO MAKE A CASE FOR LANDMARKING.

UH, SO STAFF ENCOURAGES INCORPORATION AND PRESERVATION WITH THE FRISCO SIGN NUMBER AND IT ROLLED INTO NEW DESIGNS FOR THE PROPERTY AND ALSO ENCOURAGES REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE THAT APPEARS TO BE A FOREGONE CONCLUSION AT THIS POINT.

UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IS REALLY RELEASE OF THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, WHICH THIS IS A PHOTO WE RECEIVED, UH, PUBLIC, UH, COMMUNICATION, UM, OF WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE NOW.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF CURIOUS ON THAT PHOTO D SIGN HAS GONE ALREADY, RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA.

I WOULD JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AT, SINCE I GUESS ALL WE WILL HAVE ON THIS IS, WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

I WOULD JUST REQUEST MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EARLIER OCCUPANCIES, THE ORIGINAL, UM, MR. STEAK, UM, AND SUBSEQUENT RESTAURANTS.

UM, AND, AND I KNOW I JUST DOING A QUICK SEARCH ON THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN FOUND SOME ARTICLES, UH, WHEN MR. STEAK WAS, UM, OPEN.

SO I, I KNOW THERE'S INFORMATION OUT THERE.

SO IF THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE RECORD FOR THIS BUILDING, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS PROBABLY SIGNIFICANT, UM, FOR BEING ONE OF THE FIRST OF ITS TYPE IN THIS AREA.

UM, AND JUST HAVING THAT, UM, ADDED TO THE HISTORY FOR THIS BUILDING WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

I KNOW FRISCO'S IS, IS PROBABLY THE MOST RECOGNIZABLE NAME, BUT, UH, THIS OBVIOUSLY WAS, UH, A RESTAURANT, UM, MUCH PRIOR TO THAT.

SO IF WE COULD ADD THAT TO THE RECORD AS WELL, CERTAINLY COMMISSIONER, IF WE TOOK NO ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT, UH, SINCE THE BUILDING DOESN'T EXIST ON INCLINED TO NOT HAVE TO APPROVE WHAT THEY'VE DONE, UM, WOULD WE, OH, AND THEN REQUEST AN UPDATE FROM STAFF ON WHAT OTHER KINDS OF PENALTIES, UH, THE CITY IS PURSUING, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, ACTIONS WITHOUT PROPER PERMITTING, UH, IS THAT, IS THAT OUR PURVIEW? I'M NOT SURE WHAT EFFECT THAT WOULD HAVE IF THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN, UM,

[04:35:03]

PERHAPS A POSTPONEMENT WITH A REQUEST FOR AN UPDATE.

UM, I'M INCLINED TO SAY WE SHOULD JUST GO ONTO THE NEXT CASE AND TAKE NO ACTION BECAUSE THERE'S NO BUILDING, BUT COMMISSIONERS, IF, IF WE TAKE, IF WE DON'T APPROVE THE PERMIT, THEN WE'VE EFFECTIVELY NOT FOR MOOT APPROVED THE REMODELS EITHER.

SO YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DON'T TAKE ACTION.

THEN THERE IS A TIME LIMIT ON WHICH WE HAVE TO ACT, UM, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE, UH, FREE OF US, UH, WITHOUT SOME ACTION.

AND, UM, I MEAN, WE COULD EITHER, WE COULD POSTPONE IT, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE OURSELVES WITH A SITUATION.

WE HAVE REWARDED SOMEONE FOR DOING THE WRONG THING.

COMMISSIONER, FELONS, WAYLON, UH, JUST, JUST FOR CONVERSATION.

WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE CONSEQUENCES IF WE DIDN'T, I, THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, I MEAN, KNOWING THAT IT'S OBVIOUSLY ALREADY BEEN DEMOLISHED, BUT IF WE DENIED THE PERMIT, WELL, DO WE EVEN HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION? WE COULD, WE COULD TAKE A MOTION, UM, TO DIRECT STAFF TO PURSUE, UM, WHATEVER FINES AND PENALTIES.

UM, THERE MAY BE AGAINST THE OWNERS, UM, FOR DEMOLISHING THE BUILDING WITHOUT, UH, UM, WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

AND, UH, JEREMIAH IS, I THINK THAT'S EMOTION.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

YOUR MOTION.

THE MOTION IS TO, UH, IS TO NOT TAKE ACTION ON THE PERMIT, BUT TO DIRECT STAFF TO PURSUE, UM, WHATEVER FINES AND PENALTIES THERE MAY BE, UM, AGAINST THE OWNERS WHO DEMOLISHED IT WITHOUT A PERMIT MET I'M SURE.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE COMPANY THAT TOOK THAT DOWN, THEY, I MEAN, EVERYBODY, I'LL ALL THE MAJOR DEMOLITION COMPANIES I KNOW HAVE CHECKED TO MAKE SURE THEIR PERMITS.

THEY DON'T JUST, THEY JUST DON'T, THEY JUST DON'T LISTEN TO SOMEBODY SAY, WELL, I'VE GOT A PERMIT, GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT DOWN.

THEY, THEY CHECK, THEY SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS TOO.

WHOEVER TOOK THIS DOWN KNEW THEY DID NOT HAVE A PERMIT.

I MEAN, NOT ONLY THE OWNER KNEW IT, BUT THE COMPANY THAT TOOK IT DOWN, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE IN.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM GET A LITTLE TROUBLE AT, GET A LITTLE TROUBLE OUT OF THIS.

IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY NOT ACCEPTABLE.

IT, IT, THIS WOULD HAVE, ALL THEY HAD TO DO IS WAIT A WEEK.

I TOOK TOMORROW.

SO THE, THESE, UM, MY MOTION, UM, INCLUDES, UH, CONSIDERATION THAT BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE DEMOLITION CREW THAT TOOK IT OUT SHOULD BE PURSUED.

AND I THINK THE SIGN'S GONE TOO.

I MEAN, THE SIGN WAS GOING, IT WAS IN THEORY.

IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME.

I MEAN YEAH.

IF IT HAS BEEN REMOVED.

SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE TABLE? COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

CAN I JUST AMEND TO SAY ANY AND ALL LEGAL RECOURSE THAT THE CITY HAS? SURE.

UH, I'LL ACCEPT THAT THE SECOND A DAY TIME ZAP YOU, WILL YOU ACCEPT THAT? ABSOLUTELY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

IT PASSES STAFF.

THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION.

MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE TWO MORE CASES AND WE HAVE JUST ABOUT 16, 17 MINUTES LEFT.

DCX 2012 EAST 16TH STREET.

LET'S GO FAST.

[3.D.6. PR-2022-013252 – 2012 E. 16th St. – Discussion]

MANAGER AND PROPRIETOR OF POPULAR BARBECUE RESTAURANT ON EAST 11TH CALLED DEACON JONES.

MADAM CHAIR.

I WILL READ AS FAST AS I CAN.

UM, I DIDN'T DO SIX.

THERE'S AN APPLICATION, UH, TO CONSTRUCTED TWO, THREE, A D EDITION COVERED PATIO AND A DECK TO A CIRCA 1906 SINGLE STORY HOUSE.

AND THROUGH A MODEL, A NON HISTORIC ATU.

UM, THE HOUSE AT 2012 EAST 16TH IS A SINGLE STORY.

EL PLAN FOLK VICTORIAN WITH THIS BEST DECIDING GALLUP SHINGLES AT THE GABLE END.

AND FOR BEFORE SCREENED WOOD WINDOWS DETAILS INCLUDED STAINED GLASS TRANSOM ABOVE THE FRONT DOOR AND TAMPERED POSTS SUPPORTING THE PARTIAL WIDTH PORCH.

THE HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1906 AS A RENTAL PROPERTY.

ITS FIRST OCCUPANTS INCLUDED SALES, WOMEN, LABORERS, RAILWAY WORKERS, AND CLERGYMEN, AND THE EARLY 1920S WALTER J AND LIVE IN LIVING AND JOAN PURCHASED THE HOME.

WALTER JONES CALLED DEACON OPERATED A RESTAURANT ON LEON STREET BEFORE BECOMING

[04:40:01]

THIS PLACE GEMS CATER COMMUNITY EVENTS AS WELL AS OPERATING A CAFE, WHICH HE BUILT IN 1941.

HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY.

AND AFTER HIS RETIREMENT IN 1955, SERVED ON THE ORGANIZATION, SPECIAL DONATIONS COMMITTEE DURING FUNDRAISING EFFORTS FOR AN OFTEN ANIMAL SHELTER JONES DIED IN 1966.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT MEETS THEM AND BE APPLICABLE STANDARDS.

UM, FOR THE 2016 EAST AUSTIN SURVEY RECOMMENDS THE PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE FOR LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND NATIONAL REGISTER LIFTING AS WELL AS CONTRIBUTING TO POTENTIAL LOCAL AND NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

THE BUILDING IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF FOLKS VICTORIAN ARCHITECTURE AND ASSOCIATED WITH WALTER JONES.

PROMINENT AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUSINESSMAN STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING PER SURVEY RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, HOWEVER, SHOULD THE COMMISSION DECIDE AGAINST INITIATION, ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO ADMIT THE FLAT ROOF DORMER IN FRONT OF THE ADDITION, AS WELL AS THE SHADE STRUCTURE AT THE ADDITIONS ALAMO STREET EVE THEN RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

UM, WE HAVE A SPEAKER HERE.

READY TO GO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

HI, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US AND EXTENDING THIS.

MY NAME IS RYAN BOLLOM.

I'M THE ARCHITECT WORKING WITH THE OWNERS SHEAR AND RYAN, UH, TO DESIGN, UH, AN ADDITION TO THEIR HOME, WHICH WILL ACCOMMODATE THEIR GROWING FAMILY WILL CHANGE THE HOUSE FROM TWO BEDROOM, FOUR BEDROOM.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISPUTE THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE HOUSE.

UM, AND WHILE THERE IT DOESN'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY HISTORIC ZONING.

UH, WE UNDERSTAND ITS HISTORIC VALUE AND OUR DESIGN APPROACH, UM, DEVELOPED WITHIN A DESIRE TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THE BEAUTY OF THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.

UH, IF YOU CAN BRING UP THE PRESENTATION.

UM, SO ESSENTIALLY WE, WE, OUR GOAL IS TO REMOVE SOME PREVIOUS ADDITIONS, UH, TO, TO HIGHLIGHT THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

IT LESS BUSY AND MORE PALATABLE.

AND SO, SO THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOUSE.

THIS IS A SIDE VIEW OF THE HOUSE YOU CAN CLICK THROUGH, UH, THIS NEXT.

SO THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS WAS IN, UH, UH, AN ADU THAT WAS ADDED IN 2014, UH, AT THE METAL CLAD TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH, UH, WITH THE SECOND STORY PATIO.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO NEGOTIATE BETWEEN THIS AS WELL AS THE EXISTING HOUSE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO IT, TO, UH, TO THE WEST, UH, WHICH IS A VERY CONTEMPORARY HOUSE.

SO ALSO JUST UNDERSTANDING THE CONTEXT OF THE HOME, THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS THE, WHAT WE IMAGINE THAT WE UNDERSTAND FROM THE EXISTING DRAWINGS THAT WE PREPARED, UH, THE EXISTING ORIGINAL HOUSE, UH, BUILT AS IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 1906 OVERLAID OVER THE SANBORN MAP.

UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS THE CURRENT, UH, HOUSE AS IT STANDS NOW, UH, WITH THE ADDITIONS AND AN ENCLOSED PORCH.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WHAT WE'RE JUST PROPOSING IS TO REMOVE, UM, AND REDO THE ADDITION SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE A LARGER SPACE, CAUSE IT'S STILL ONLY A TWO BEDROOM, UH, AND DOING IN A WAY THAT JUST, UH, RESPECTS, UH, THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, UM, AND ALSO PRIORITIZE A SUSTAINABLE DESIGN STRATEGIES.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSAL WITH THE ADU AND THE TOP, RIGHT? UM, THE, THE ORIGINAL EXISTING HOUSE AND THE BOTTOM LEFT IN OUR FLAT ROOF CONNECTOR, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO CONNECT A LARGER TWO STORY EDITION.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO FROM THE FRONT, YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T SEE MUCH BECAUSE IT'S LOCATED SO FAR IN THE BACK.

UM, YOU JUST SEE THE PEAK OF IT BEYOND NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE OTHER VIEW FROM THE SIDE STREET.

UH, SO YOU WOULD START TO SEE IT HERE, UH, THROUGH THE TREES.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF OUR RENDERED VIEW.

AND ONE THING THAT IS DIFFERENT, I THINK WE, WE PROBABLY MISREPRESENTED IT IN OUR ORIGINAL RENDERINGS.

THIS SHADE STRUCTURE, UM, IS MEANT TO BE A CONTINUATION OF THE ROOF LINE WITH A PERFORATED CORRUGATED METAL ROOFING.

UM, THAT WOULD JUST, JUST BE THE SAME CORRUGATED METAL ROOFING FOR THE REST OF THE ADDITION.

SO WE, WE THINK IT ACTUALLY MAKES THE FORMS SIMPLER AND BRINGS THEM DOWN TO SCALE RATHER THAN IF WE GOT RID OF IT.

IT WOULD ACCENTUATE CHANGES IN SCALE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND SO, SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOWING, AND THIS IS ALSO EAST AND WEST FACING.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS THE WAY THE SUN WOULD RISE.

SO IF WE DON'T PUT A SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THERE, WE JUST GET A TON OF SUN THAT BLAZES THAT, THAT EAST FACADE AND SO ENVIRONMENT FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, THIS IS IT'S MUCH BETTER TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN MITIGATE THAT SIDE.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS SHOWS THAT IF WE DID REMOVE THAT SHADE STRUCTURE, UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK WE ACTUALLY THINK THE S THE SHADE STRICT STRUCTURE MAKES

[04:45:01]

UH, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK TO THIS? UH, I DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE, BUT IS THERE ANYONE ON THE LINE WE DID HAVE MR. RYAN O'CONNOR WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK BY PHONE? MR. O'CONNOR ARE YOU ON THE PHONE? YES, I'M HERE.

DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION? YEAH.

YEAH, I'M, UH, UH, I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

AND FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

I KNOW IT'S LATE.

UM, WE BOUGHT THIS HOME TWO YEARS AGO AND, UH, MOVED IN JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AFTER THE YOUNGEST CHILD WAS BORN.

WE RESPECT THE ORIGINAL HOME AND ITS HISTORY AND WISH TO BUILD AN ADDITION TO, TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE OUR GROWING FAMILY.

I'D LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER APPROVING OUR DESIGN, INCLUDING THE, THE SHADE STRUCTURE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ADDITION FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS DESIGN PROCESS, ONE OF OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE WAS TO PRESERVE AND COMPLIMENT THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.

THE DESIGN WE CAME UP WITH, I THINK DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OVER THIS, THE SHADE STRUCTURE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ADDITION, CAN'T BE SEEN FROM THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FROM THE EAST SIDE.

IT HAS THE EFFECT OF DRAWING MY EYES TO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.

THIS CAN BE SEEN WHEN COMPARING THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, ADDITION WITH VERSUS WITHOUT THE SHADE STRUCTURE THAT RYAN PREVIOUSLY SHOWED.

I THINK OUR DESIGN SHOWCASES THE ORIGINAL HOUSE VERY WELL, AND THE SHADE STRUCTURE IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THAT EFFECT.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT OUR DESIGN AND, UH, WE THINK IT PRESERVES AND CELEBRATE THE PAST WHILE ADDING SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL TO THE BACK.

WE HOPE AND ASK, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE OUR DESIGN WITH THE SHADE STRUCTURE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR TIME AGAIN.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONSIDER INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING PER SURVEY RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THAT RECOMMENDATION DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THE, THE PLANS I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE PLANS AS DESIGNED SECOND.

I THINK IT'S PUSHING THE BOUNDARIES QUITE A BIT, BUT IT IS PRESERVING THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.

IF SOMEONE WANTED TO LANDMARK IN THE FUTURE, THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION.

UH, HAVING A LITTLE DEJA VU FROM THE NEW YORK AVENUE CASE OF LAST MONTH, UH, WHERE THEY'RE DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB PRESERVING IT, THAT I'M ENTICED TO WANT TO PUSH MORE, BUT WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER BATTLES TO FIGHT.

I THINK, UH, WHEN THE IS BEING PRESERVED, UM, THERE'S NO NEED TO, TO PUSH BACK ON THE DETAILS, ESPECIALLY AS SEEN FROM A SECONDARY ELEVATION.

IS THERE ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION ON THIS? WELL, I THANK YOU, MR. COOK HIT ON THE FUNDAMENTAL POINT THAT THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE IS BEING PRESERVED, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO THE, UM, YOU WANT TO RELEASE THE PERMIT, OKAY.

RELEASE THE PERMIT, BUT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, THAT IS TAKE THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY AROUND.

AND I THINK PROBABLY THE NARRATIVE THAT THE STAFF HAS PREPARED WILL BE GOOD FOR ARCHIVING, BUT YOU CAN, UM, DISCUSS THAT WITH STAFF.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

MADAM CHAIR, I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT.

WE EXTEND THE MEETING TO 11, 15 TO BE REALISTIC.

UM, I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, 1115.

RAISE YOUR HANDS, PLEASE.

1403 EAST SCISSOR CHAVEZ.

[3.D.7. PR-2022-014784 – 1403 E. Cesar Chavez St. – Discussion]

THE SLOPING SIDES ON TOP OF THE PIERS, THE REST OF DECORATIVE WOULDN'T SUPPORT COLUMNS, WHICH APPEAR TO TAKE CUES FROM ORIENTALIST DESIGN PRINCIPLES WHEN RAILING IS ALMOST STICK AND IT'S PATTERN STYLING LENDING TO THE WESTERN STICK REFERENCE FOR SOME CRAFTSMAN STYLE, INSTRUCTURE HAS HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING AND THE FACADE IS COMPRISED OF A SINGLE ENTRY DOOR AND TWO MATCHING WINDOW ASSEMBLIES.

KEVIN MYERS, UH, ITEM D SEVEN IS, UH, ANOTHER REPORT BROUGHT TO US BY, UM, OUR NEW COLLEAGUE KIM COLLINS.

UM, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A SINGLE FAMILY CRAFTSMAN STYLE RESIDENCE BUILT CIRCA 1925.

UH, IT'S A SINGLE STORY HOUSE WITH A CROSS GABLED ROOF LINE BUILT IN THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE AROUND 1925.

THE ROOF HAS ONE TRIANGULAR KNEE BRACE AND THE APEX OF EACH GABLE.

THE PORT SUPPORTS ARE COMPOSED OF BRICK MASON REPAIRS,

[04:50:01]

IT'S COMPRISED OF TWO SINGLE HUNG VERTICAL WOOD WINDOWS.

1920 SEVENTH, 1959 AT THIS TIME WAS OWNED AND OCCUPIED BY MEMBERS OF THE BELLAGIO FAMILY HEALTH AND TOBY BELLAGIO WERE OWNERS OF THE BLODGETT PRODUCE COMPANY, THE OWNER TOFI AND HIS WIFE BERTHA GALASSIA PURCHASED THE HOUSE IN 1927.

UH, AND IT BECAME THEIR FAMILY HOME BIRTH OF ALLOWS YOU TO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THIS ADDRESS INTO 1959, THE BELLAGIO PRODUCE COMPANY.

IT WAS ONE OF THE OLDEST IN AUSTIN.

UM, IT WAS ALREADY ONE OF THE OLDEST AND AUSTIN BY 1939, UM, AND WHERE MANY PEOPLE WOULD GO TO ORDER THEIR HOLIDAY TURKEYS AND MEAT.

UM, AND THEY ALSO HELD A STATE CONTRACT FOR PROVIDING MEAT TO STATE INSTITUTIONS ALLOWS YOU YOUR PRODUCE CONTINUE TO SERVE THE CITY AND SURROUNDING AREAS.

AND IT BECAME ONE OF THE LARGEST SUPPLIERS OF MEAT AND PRODUCE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THE 2016 EAST AUSTIN SURVEY REPORT RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE AS A LOCAL LANDMARK, AS WELL AS A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY TO A POTENTIAL LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF CRAFTSMAN STYLE ARCHITECTURE, UM, AND APPEARS TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT ASSERTION HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING BASED ON ARCHITECTURE.

AND THAT ASSOCIATION WITH BELLAGIO PRODUCE, IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES NOT TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, BUT RELEASED THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION? YAY OR NAY? OKAY.

I'M HEARING NONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, BUT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING.

UM, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND THIS HOUSE IS AN EXCEPTIONAL EXAMPLE OF A CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW, AND IT HAS, IT HAS HIGH, UH, VALUE FOR ITS HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS.

I THINK THAT THIS IS, THIS IS EXACTLY THE PORCH DETAILS.

THE BRICK WORK, THE, THE WOODWORK, EVERYTHING ON THIS HOUSE IS, IS JUST REALLY, THIS IS A STELLAR EXAMPLE.

UM, AND I THINK IT, IT WARRANTS HISTORIC ZONING, UM, FURTHER DISCUSSION.

EVERYBODY AGREES.

DO WE NEED STAFF? DO WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IF THERE WAS NO ONE HERE, JUST SPEAK ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

IF WE INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING, IT WILL STILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR RECOMMENDATION.

IN THIS CASE, WE DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO REMAIN OPEN AND THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE MOTION.

THEN IN MY MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND NOW I'M IN MY MOTION TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

WILL THE SECONDARY AGREE TO THAT? OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF INITIATING HISTORIC ZONING, LIVING THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NO, WE, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

WE HAVE 10 COMMISSIONERS VOTING ON THAT.

THOSE ARE THAT'S END OF OUR PUBLIC SURE.

CASES.

UNLESS THERE'S JUST ESSENTIAL REASON WHY WE NEED ADDITIONAL REPORTS FROM COMMITTEES.

I'M GOING TO MOVE WITH, WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT WE NEED TO TAKE UP TONIGHT.

THAT IS ITEM 3G DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PARTIAL TAX EXEMPTION FOR HISTORIC LANDMARKS, UH, BASED ON THE RESULTS OF INSPECTIONS THAT STAFF PERFORMED.

WHAT IS THAT?

[3.G. Discussion and Possible Action on Applications for Partial Exemption from Ad Valorem Taxes for Properties in Need of Tax Relief in Order to Encourage Their Preservation and Properties That Have State Designation, in Accordance with the Texas Tax Code]

WE HAVE TO PICK THAT UP.

IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO TAKE THAT UP TONIGHT.

UM, STAFF HAD A MEETING ABOUT A MONTH AGO WITH, UH, THE TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

AND, UH, THEY EMPHASIZE THE EARLIER THAT WE CAN GET THIS INFORMATION TO THEM, THE BETTER IN TERMS OF PREPARING, UH, FOR WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AS THOSE EXEMPTION APPLICATIONS COME IN.

UH, SO THEY APPRECIATE OUR ACTION IN FEBRUARY.

WE TECHNICALLY HAVE UNTIL APRIL 1ST TO PROVIDE THAT TO THEM, BUT, UH, SHOULD SOMETHING UNFORESEEN OCCUR AND OUR MARCH MEETING BE CANCELED.

THIS HAPPENED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE COVID PANDEMIC BETTER TO GIVE OURSELVES A BUFFER AND TAKE IT UP TONIGHT.

WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS ENTAILING? UH, WE JUST NEED A VOTE TO APPROVE THE LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN BACKUP.