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[00:00:05]

IS 5:37 PM.

[CALL TO ORDER]

ON MARCH 14TH, 2022.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE AUSTIN BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO ORDER.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE ROLL CALL.

YEAH, TOMMY EIGHTS, EAR.

BROOKE BAILEY HERE.

JESSICA COHEN.

I'M HERE.

MELISSA HEARTBURN HERE.

DARRYL PUT AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ HERE.

RICHARD SMITH.

I AM HERE AND I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM ITEM E THREE.

NICOLE WADE HERE, MARCEL GUTIERREZ GARZA.

OKAY.

DO I MISS ANYBODY? MICHAEL I'M HERE.

KELLY BLOOM, KELLY KELLY, BLOOM.

YOU KELLY.

YOU SORRY.

THANK YOU, KELLY.

2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S 10.

OKAY.

UH, JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING NOTES, UH, FOR YOU ALL, PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR CELL PHONES OR SET THEM TO VIBRATE.

A REMINDER THAT AUSTIN STILL HAS A MASS MANDATE AND WE ARE TRYING TO FOLLOW SOCIAL DISTANCING WHILE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

SO PLEASE FOLLOW THOSE RULES.

WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, YOU MAY TAKE YOUR MASK OFF TO SPEAK.

AFTER YOUR CASE IS OVER.

PLEASE TAKE THE DISCUSSION OUTSIDE THE LOBBY.

IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR KEYS OR THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE ON IT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT THE BOARD LIAISON, ELAINE RAMIREZ TOMORROW WHEN YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE BOARD SPEAK DIRECTLY TO US, DO NOT ADDRESS THE OPPOSITION OR OTHER PARTIES.

PLEASE WE'VE GOT A FULL AGENDA.

SO WE'LL PROBABLY BE TAKING A SHORT RECESS AROUND 10 OR SORRY, 10, 8, 8 PM FOR A BREAK.

AND, UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T STAMPED YOUR PARKING TICKETS, THE LITTLE CLAMSHELL IS OVER THERE BY THE WALL NEAR THE FRONT DOOR.

MAKE SURE YOU STAMP YOUR PARKING TICKET ON YOUR WAY OUT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY, ASK EVERYONE TO BE PATIENT.

WE ARE STILL LEARNING THESE NEW HYBRID STYLE OF MEETINGS.

UH, THERE WILL BE SPEAKERS AND BOARD MEMBERS BOTH ON THE VIDEO SCREEN BEHIND ME WHO WILL BE ADDRESSING YOU AND THE TWO OF US UP FRONT.

NO, FOR EVERYONE.

WHO'S GOING TO BE GIVING TESTIMONY TONIGHT.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE STAND AND AFFIRM YOUR OATH.

SO PLEASE STAND.

DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU WILL GIVE TONIGHT WILL BE TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE? THANK YOU MUCH.

WE SEE THAT.

ALL RIGHT, ELAINE, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, ELAINE? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? NO.

MA'AM.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

LET'S START WITH ITEM B ONE.

UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE STUFF, AN APPLICANT REQUESTS FOR POSTPONEMENT AND WITHDRAWALS.

IF WE DO THE MINUTES AND I JUST MISSED THAT.

I'M SORRY.

I JUST MISSED IT.

YOU SURE? RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO SO MUCH.

IT DIDN'T EVEN PRINT ON MY SHEET.

THAT'S MY BAD.

UH,

[A-1 Staff requests approval February 14, 2022 draft minutes ]

SO LET'S DO ITEM 11, THE MEETING MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 14TH, 2022, A COUPLE OF CORRECTIONS WE NEED TO MAKE ON SCENE 15, 20 21 0 1 0 1.

WE NEED TO ADD THE, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE MADE BY VICE CHAIR, HAWTHORNE SECRETARY BY BOARD MEMBER OF ON OLIN, WHERE IT WAS DENIED.

AND THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER MADE BY BOARD MEMBER RODRIGUEZ IS SECONDED BY CHAIR COHEN, OR IT WAS APPROVED NINE TWO.

AND THEN FOR C 16, 20 21 0 0 1 1.

UH, I MADE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT MADE BY ME, UH, ADDING A CONDITION TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT IN REGARDS TO LUMINOSITY.

SO

[00:05:01]

DO I HAVE A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THOSE CORRECTIONS? THANK YOU.

G I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES MADE BY VICE-CHAIR HAWTHORNE'S SECRETARY BY BOARD MEMBER BAILEY.

IT'S CALLED THE ROLE.

TOMMY EIGHTS.

YES.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

DARYL PRO? YES.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

RICHARD SMITH.

OH, DID YOU SAY IT LOOKS LIKE YOU SAID YES.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

SORRY.

I WAS MUTED.

YES.

OKAY.

THANKS SO MUCH.

NICOLE, WADE, KELLY BLOOM.

YEAH.

MARCEL GUTIERREZ GARZA.

YES.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUS.

KELLY'S CAT APPROVES HIS FUNNEL.

OH, KELLY'S CAT.

SHE OR SHE'S A HAM.

THE MOVEMENT ON THE SCREEN.

SO SORRY, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN HER STOMPING ON THE KEYBOARD.

LIKE SHE USUALLY TRIES TO DO SO I'M JUST GOING TO LET, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GOT YOUR CAT TO GET OUT OF BED.

MINE, MINOR, LIKE IN THERE SLEEPING.

OKAY.

NOW

[B-1 Staff and Applicant requests for postponement and withdraw of items posted on this Agenda ]

ITEM B ONE PLUS SUPPLEMENTS AND WITHDRAWALS.

ELAINE, FOR ME.

YES.

I HAVE ITEM F FIVE C 15 DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 1 11 27, 15 LONGO TRO, UH, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A POSTPONE, APRIL 11TH, ITEM F SIX, C 15 DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 1 2 27 17.

LONGBOAT TRO, UH, POSTPONE THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TILL APRIL 11TH AND ITEM F EIGHT, C 15 DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 1 9 6 0 7 EAST 49TH STREET.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT.

SO APRIL 11TH THEN ALSO I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

BESIDES THOSE THREE POSTPONEMENTS, WE HAVE ITEM F TWO C 15 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 0 0 1003, KENNY AVENUE.

WE HAVE TWO BOARD MEMBERS ABSTAINING, DARRYL PRUITT, AND AUGUSTINO TALLADEGAS SO I'M NOT SURE HOW Y'ALL WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE ENOUGH VOTES.

SO THAT WOULD PUT US AT EASE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY BRING IT TO YOUR TOUCHES UPON THAT ONE THEN AS WELL.

UH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T VOTE ON IT.

SO WE'LL JUST INCLUDE THAT, INCLUDE THAT ONE AS WELL.

OKAY.

I'M ASSUMING THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

UM, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT LAST ABSTENTION.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS BRINGING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION ONE SEC.

AND I'M SORRY, WHICH, WHICH ITEM WAS THAT ITEM? F TWO.

UM, THE LINE.

HAVE YOU HEARD FROM ANYBODY ON F1? THAT'S THE 43 15 AVENUE.

I, YEAH, I HAVE NOT.

UM, THE LAST I HEARD WAS THAT THEY WERE, THEY GOT THEIR LAND STATUS, BUT THEY WERE STILL CHECKING WITH RESIDENTIAL REVIEW TO SEE WHAT VARIANCES WERE REQUIRED.

OKAY.

BUT THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR A POSTPONEMENT.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS? NOT TO APPROVE, LIKE IN GENERAL, THE MOTION TO POSTPONE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, SORRY, LITTLE CLUNKY THERE I'LL SECOND THAT, BUT DO WE NEED TO AT LEAST INFORM THE APPLICANT OF F TO, UH, MS. LOPEZ? WHAT'S

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AND WE COULD HEAR THE CASE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO POSTPONE IT ANYWAY WITH ONLY EIGHT MEMBERS.

WE CAN'T PASS IT.

I'M SORRY.

IS THERE IS THE APPLICANT HERE? IS THERE AN OBJECTION TO THE POSTPONEMENT? UH, ACTUALLY YOU HAVE, COULD YOU COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD REAL QUICK, PLEASE? AND ONE SEC, COULD YOU PLEASE TURN ON THE MICROPHONE TO THE PODIUM ONE SEC.

OKAY.

TRY NOW.

NOPE.

IT'S STILL NOT WORKING.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YOU'LL KNOW.

OKAY, GREAT.

UH, NOW I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT, IF IT WERE POSTPONED, IF THERE ARE STILL TWO ABSTENTIONS, THIS IS OUR FIFTH TIME.

WE'VE BEEN POSTPONED FOUR TIMES.

YES.

BECAUSE, UH, UH, I MEAN, WE CAN HEAR THE CASE, BUT WE HAVE NINE VERSE, SUPER MAJORITY, UH WE'RE OUT FOR 40 NIGHTS.

SO WE'VE GOT THE THREE ALTERNATES OR, SORRY, WE'RE OUT THREE WITH THE TWO ALTERNATES FILLING IN.

OKAY.

BUT IF WE HAVE THE FULL BOARD, IF WE HAVE THE FULL 11, SO TO TAKE, THEN IT'S NINE.

UH, IT WOULD BE NINE TO PASS IT.

WOULDN'T GIVE YOU A WHOLE LOT OF LEEWAY.

ONE DENIAL.

I WOULD NEED A SUPER MAJORITY OR UNANIMOUS SUPPORT ANYWAY.

OKAY.

I MEAN, SORRY.

THERE'S NOT MUCH ELSE I CAN ARGUE.

UNLESS ONE OF YOU WHO IS ABSTAINING ONCE TO, ARE YOU IN? YES, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS ENLS.

OKAY.

SO I JUST TALKED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.

UM, IF WE HAVE A FULL BOARD NEXT MONTH, WE CAN PULL IN TWO ALTERNATIVES JUST FOR THIS CASE TO COVER THOSE TWO ABSTENTIONS.

OKAY.

EVEN BETTER.

YEAH.

PERFECT.

SO NO MATTER WHAT, THAT, THAT IS A VERY, THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN? YEAH.

THE ONLY THING IS WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH BOARD MEMBERS TODAY.

WE HAD TO PULL IN THOSE, UM, ALTERNATES TO FILL IN FOR THOSE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE ABSENT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ONLY HAVE EIGHT TODAY FOR THAT CASE.

COVID STILL HERE.

I GOT TWO AT MY FOLK, SO, SORRY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY.

WE HAVE TO POSTPONE YOU AGAIN.

I REALLY AM.

I KNOW THAT'S A LONG WAIT.

I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING AS WELL.

JEEZ.

SO THAT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE MADE BY VICE CHAIR HATHORNE WITH A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER BAILEY.

THIS WILL BE TO POSTPONE TO APRIL 11TH, APRIL 11TH.

THANK YOU.

APRIL 11TH, ITEMS E THREE, C 15 20 22 0 0 2 2, UM, F TWO C 15 20 21 0 1 0 0.

I KNOW IT WAS F FIVE, C 15 20 20 TO 0 0 1 1.

AND ITEM F SIX, C 15 20 22 0 0 1 2.

UH, AND AGAIN, MOTION TO POSTPONE TOMMY IT'S WAIT, DID YOU SAY YEAH.

THERE'S NO, THERE IS ONE UP STASH AND FOR THAT AND THAT'S RICHARD SMITH.

YEAH, I APOLOGIZE.

WHAT WAS THE FIRST ONE TO LEAVE? SO THE FIRST, THE FIRST ITEM IS F TWO F TWO, THEN IT'S F FIVE F SIX AND F EIGHT F E EIGHT.

OH, THAT'S AN EIGHT.

SORRY.

UH, SO I TWO AT FIVE F SIX F EIGHT, EVERYONE.

OKAY.

WITH THAT.

OKAY.

TOMMY IS YES.

BRETT BAILEY.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

DARYL PRUITT.

WELL THAT'S SKEIN FROM ANYTHING CONSIDERING, UH, CONSIDERATION.

OKAY.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

YES.

NICOLE WADE.

YES.

KELLY BLOOM AND MARCEL GUTIERREZ GARZA POSTPONE SUIT, APRIL LIMIT.

[00:15:08]

LET'S HEAR THE FIRST CASE.

[C-1 C16-2022-0002 Clay Hardman for Campus Investors Austin, LP 2323 San Antonio Street]

THIS WILL BE ITEM C1, C 16 20 22 0 0 0 2.

CLAY HARDMAN FOUR CAMPUS INVESTORS, 23, 23 SAN ANTONIO STRAINS.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT LAST ONE.

YEAH, THOSE ARE POSTPONED.

THERE WAS TWO OTHERS.

CLAY HARDMAN.

ELAINE.

HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT? NO, I HAVE NOT.

I CAN, WE MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THEM I'LL SECOND.

THAT 6 30, 6, 30 AS CLOSE AS WE CAN MAKE IT TO SIX 30.

I, OR I DON'T KNOW THE ORDER OF THE DAY OF WORK AND ALL SECOND, UH, I DO KNOW D ONE OR ZONE.

DO YOU LET'S JUST DO THIS MOTION, YOUR TABLE TILL AROUND SIX 30 OR THEREAFTER.

IF I CAN JUST GET A QUICK SHOW OF HANDS.

YES.

ANY NO'S? NOPE.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

LET'S UNANIMOUS.

AND IT JUST MAY BE CONFUSED ON HOW TO DO ALL THIS.

THAT'S FINE.

YEAH.

O'KEEFE

[D-1 C16-2022-0001 Esteban Arrieta for Eames Gilmore 10107 Research Boulevard SVBD ]

D ONE C 16, 20 22 0 0 0 1.

ESTEBAN.

ARRIATA FOR EM'S GILMORE 1 0 1 0 7 RESEARCH BOULEVARD.

OKAY.

ELAINE, ELAINE, HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT? ACTUALLY, HE SHOULD BE ON VIRTUALLY THAT'S ESTEBAN.

YES.

YES, YES.

UH, I JUST, I'M NOT SURE.

I'VE NEVER BEEN A, OF A VARIANCE WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO JUST COME START? UH, ONE SEC PLEASE.

UH, CTM, COULD YOU PUT THE WEBEX, UH, OUTPUT THROUGH OUR SPEAKERS UP HERE ON THE DICE PLEASE? IT'S A CALL-IN USER.

IT'S A COLONY SPEAK.

CAN YOU SPEAK AGAIN, PLEASE? YES.

HELLO? YOU SHOULD HAVE THEM UP THERE.

MR. ARIA.

TELE, COULD YOU SPEAK AGAIN PLEASE? YES, SIR.

IT'S FINE.

GO AHEAD.

UH, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? NO PRESENT.

YES.

PRESENTATION.

IF YOU COULD PULL THIS PRESENTATION PLEASE AND JESSICA CAN THE SPEAKER INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S A DELAY BETWEEN THE SLIDES AND WHEN HE'S GOING TO SEE IT.

THANK YOU.

SO YEAH, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IF YOU'RE WATCHING ONLINE OR IF YOU'RE WATCHING HEX AND IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 30 SECONDS AFTER WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.

SO WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR US TO JUST MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, GO AHEAD AND TELL US NEXT SLIDE.

NOPE, NO PROBLEM.

I'M NOT WATCHING.

SO I, I, I CAN, I CAN JUST TELL YOU NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE READY.

READY? YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

AWESOME.

UH, MY NAME IS ESTEBAN VILCHEZ OR ARRIETTA WITH WALTON SIGNAGE.

I'M REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD TO EXTEND A PYLON SIGN ON THE TARGET PROPERTY ON RESEARCH BOULEVARD AND GREEN HILLS ROAD,

[00:20:01]

UH, ABOUT 10 TO 12 FEET.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING CODE HERE AND THE EXISTING CODE.

IT REQUIRES US TO HAVE 35 FEET OF UPGRADE, OR TH THAT'S THE, THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE GIVEN THE TARGET PARKING LOT CURRENTLY SITS AT FOUR FEET ABOVE GRADE.

SO WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT 31 FEET TOTAL FOR THIS NEW PYLON TO BE DONE.

UH, WE HAD LOOKED FOR SCOUTING LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THIS, AND WE WENT TO DIG SOME HOLES, SEE WHERE EVERYTHING'S AT.

AND WE FOUND THE PROPOSAL LOCATION.

OTHER PROPOSAL LOCATIONS DIDN'T ALLOW US TO PUT IT THERE.

THERE WERE SOME UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THAT WERE NOT PUBLIC THAT WERE THERE, AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FIND THE OBSTACLE LOCATION THAT WE WANTED TO.

SO WE, WE FOUND ONE OPTIMAL LOCATION THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS ABOUT 10 TO, TO 12 FEET OF HEIGHT TO BE EXTENDED.

UM, SO THAT WE COULD BE ABOVE THE TREE LINE WITH OUR PROPOSED LOCATION THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS WHERE OUR PROPOSED LOCATION IS RIGHT NOW.

AND YOU'LL ALSO SEE ON THAT FIRST PICTURE ON THE TOP, IT HAS THE PROPOSED LOCATION AND ON THOSE TWO BOTTOM PICTURES, WE DID A COUPLE OF FLAG TESTS TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE, HOW YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN FROM THESE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO I HAVE, WE DID DO A COUPLE OF FLAG TESTS SHOWING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT WAS A 31 FEET, WHICH IS THE CURRENT CODE.

UM, THIS WOULD BE LOOKING ON RESEARCH BOULEVARD AS WELL AS GREAT HILLS ROAD, MOSTLY BEING GREAT HILLS ROAD, WHERE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN AT ALL THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE, UH, WESTBOUND OR EASTBOUND ON THIS ROAD.

NEXT SLIDE.

NOW THESE PICTURES ARE FROM RESEARCH BOULEVARD.

YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN ON NUMBER THREE.

YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THE SIGN WITH THAT TREE LINE, BUT, UH, YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN FOR MOST OF THE MOST PART HERE.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS WHEN WE START TO SEE THAT THERE'S NO SIGN ON NUMBER FOUR OR NUMBER FIVE, IT'S COMPLETELY COVERED BY ALL OF THOSE TREATS.

THAT NEXT SLIDE YOU'RE LOOKING WESTBOUND.

YOU CAN HARDLY SEE THE SIGN ON NUMBER SEVEN AND YOU CAN'T SEE THE SIGN ON 6, 4, 8.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING WESTBOUND AGAIN ON GREAT HILLS ROAD, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN WHATSOEVER.

UM, AND IT'S, IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE IT'S THERE.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, NOW WITH THE VARIANTS APPLIED OF ABOUT 10 FEET, WE PUT IT UP AT 41 FEET.

WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THESE, GIVEN A FLAG, NEXT SLIDE.

I CAN STILL SEE THE SIGN, BUT I'M NUMBER THREE.

YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN ABOVE THAT FOR NEXT SLIDE.

NOW YOU CAN'T SEE THE SIGN ON NUMBER FOUR, BUT ON NUMBER FIVE, YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE THE FIND PAST THAT TREE LINE, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

NOW LOOKING WEST ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN COMPLETELY, EVEN FARTHER AWAY FROM TRAFFIC, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT NEXT SLIDE.

LET'S SEE THE SIGN COMPLETELY, BUT AT LEAST IT'S VISIBLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, MORE VISIBLE THAN IT WAS BEFORE.

NEXT SLIDE.

NOW OUR HARDSHIP THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS GRANTED BY CODE CHAPTER 25 10, WHICH SAYS THE BOY MAY GRANT THE VARIANCE ONLY DEFINES THAT THE VARIANCE IS NECESSARY BECAUSE OF REQUIREMENT FROM ANTHONY REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY.

CONSIDERING THE UNIQUE FEATURES OF THE SITE, INCLUDING ITS DIMENSIONS, LANDSCAPING, WORK PHOTOGRAPHY NOW BECAUSE OF THIS AND THE TREE LINE, UH, IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE MARKERS FOR TRAFFIC THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE, I WOULD ASK THEM FOR, TO GRANT THIS VARIANCE BASED ON THESE FACTORS.

THAT IS IT.

THANK YOU.

LET'S SEE.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY.

NOPE.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, BOARD MEMBER BAILEY.

HOW LONG HAS THAT TARGET BEEN IN THAT SPOT IS FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, THE TARGETS, UH, THE TARGET ITSELF, LIKE THE BUILDING? YES, NOT SURE, BUT I CAN, YEAH, I, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY FIND OUT FOR YOU AND PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION.

IS IT MORE THAN 10 YEARS? I BELIEVE SO.

OKAY.

AND HAVE YOU LOOKED AT DOING PEDESTAL SIGNS BELOW THE TREE LINE? UM, WE HAVE THE THING IS, IS THAT, UM, THE, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ON GREENHILLS ROAD, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT A BELOW THE TREE LINE, UM, WHERE IT CAN BE VISIBLE ANYWAY.

UM, WHERE, WHAT WE WERE THINKING IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT DOWN THE TREE LINES ITSELF AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUT, UM, YEAH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS VISIBLE OBVIOUSLY, AND THAT IT COULD PROVIDE THOSE MARKERS FOR TRAFFIC AND, UH, AND BE VISIBLE TO EVERYONE ELSE.

AND ONE OTHER QUESTION, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE TREES GROW ANOTHER 10 FEET IN 10 YEARS?

[00:25:02]

WELL, UM, WHEN IT GROWS ANOTHER 10 FEET, I MEAN, THE PLANT IS ALREADY THERE.

UM, WE'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

REALLY.

I THINK IT'S JUST THE NOW THING FOR TARGET.

UH, SO IN THAT CASE WE MAY BE, THEY MAY GO INTO ANOTHER VARIANCE HEARING.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT FOR NOW THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.

I, I'M NOT SURE.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN THAT, NO, THANK YOU.

SORRY, ONE SECOND.

NUMBER ONE.

UH, STILL NOT GETTING ANYTHING TO THE DIOCESE SPEAKERS.

THE WEBEX SESSION IS ONLY COMING THROUGH THE CHAMBER FORD SPEAKING SPEAKERS.

THIS IS NICOLE.

CAN YOU Y'ALL HEAR ME? OKAY.

UM, I THINK THAT SHE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT SHE'S HAVING A LITTLE AUDIO TROUBLE THERE WHERE THE WEBEX IS AT COMING IN ON, ON, IN THEY'RE ONLY COMING IN THE CHAMBERS.

DOES SHE ASKED US TO WAIT JUST A SECOND, UM, WHILE, UH, THEY TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.

OKAY.

SORRY.

I MISUNDERSTOOD.

WELL, I CAN SEE SHE'S UP THERE.

UM, YOU LOVELY AND TALENTED.

A B TECH IS UP THERE THAT LOOKS THROUGH LINCOLN.

I'M HAVING HIGH T MICAH TEA, DRINK A WATER.

YOU HAD A QUESTION.

UH, IS THE AUDIO PROBLEM STOP? NO, SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GET HELP PHONE A FRIEND, ASK THE AUDIENCE NOW IT'S REALLY HOT.

THERE'S NO HUMOR.

OKAY.

I MISSED IT.

SORRY.

THE MICROPHONES LIKE TURNED UP RARELY HUD.

SO I'M TRYING NOT TO BE TOO THAT CAUSE IT'LL FEED BACK.

OKAY.

SO GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTIONS FIRST AND THEN I'LL GET IT TO YOU, NICOLE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH.

SO ABOUT THE PHOTOS THAT WERE TAKEN, UM, AS SHOWN, I'M LOOKING AT IN THE PRESENTATION PAGE THREE OR ONE OF THREE, UM, SO THE PHOTOS THAT CORRESPOND TO EACH ONE OF THOSE PHOTO LOCATIONS DON'T NECESSARILY ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE AN EXISTING SIGN ON RESEARCH ON THE SERVICE RATE, WHICH I ASSUME IS GOING TO REMAIN IN PLACE.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE PHOTOS TAKEN LIKE IT MAKES IT TO THE TARGET STORE ITSELF, WHERE THERE IS A TARGET LOGO ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

UM, SO I, AT THIS POINT I'M NOT SEEING A NEED TO GRANT THE VARIANCE FOR YET ANOTHER SIGN ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, IF YOU HAD ADDITIONAL VIEWS MAYBE, BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW THE VIEWS YOU PROVIDED DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE EXISTING SIGNAGE THAT'S ALREADY ON THE SITE AND HOW THAT COULD BE USED TO ADDRESS, UM, A SHORTCOMING OF AT THE PROPOSED LOCATION.

AND I WOULD ALSO ITERATE WHAT BOARD NUMBER BAILEY MENTIONED ABOUT LOOKING AT IT AT A PET PEDESTAL OR MONUMENT BROWN LEVEL SIGN, BASICALLY AS PERHAPS AN ALTERNATIVE HERE.

UM, YEAH, I THINK WHAT, WHAT OTHER LOCATIONS, OR WHAT OTHER PHOTO LOCATIONS WOULD YOU SAY YOU WOULD NEED TO SEE TO BE ABLE TO GRANT VARIANCE? WELL, I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY, UM, I MEAN I'M WILLING TO ENTERTAIN ADDITIONAL ONES, BUT THE PHOTOS YOU'VE TAKEN RIGHT NOW DON'T INCLUDE THOSE ADDITIONAL, THE EXISTING SCIENCE IN THEM.

SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE A PICTURE FROM SAY LOCATION THREE, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE EXISTING SIGN ON RESEARCH BOULEVARD? THAT'S JUST, I GUESS THAT'S NORTH OF, OF THAT LOCATION.

YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO LOOK ACROSS THE PARKING LOT TO SEEK THE SIGN.

SO WHAT IS THE VIEW TO THE EXISTING SIGN? IS THAT DEFICIENT IN SOME WAY? OH, WELL, I WOULD SAY THE, I GUESS WE'RE JUST TALKING IN TERMS OF THE UPGRADE HILLS ROAD AS THAT PRIVATE, EXISTING PYLON, WOULDN'T, ISN'T NECESSARILY VISIBLE FROM GREEN HILLS ROAD.

AND I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT PICTURES FROM RESEARCH, WHICH IN THAT CASE WOULDN'T BE RELEVANT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT.

CAUSE LIKE MY PHILOSOPHY WITH THESE IS TO NOT GRANT A VERY UPSET ISN'T NEEDED OR IS MORE THAN WHAT IS NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN.

AND

[00:30:01]

I'M NOT THERE YET.

SURE.

UM, WELL, UM, WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN PROVIDE YOU SOME MORE, I GUESS, FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WILL SEE THE BENEFITS WHERE I SEE THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THAT PYLON SIGN IS FOR VISIBILITY ON GREAT HILLS ROAD OR TRAIL.

AND IF YOU SEE IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, IT ALSO PROVIDES THAT KIND OF MARKER FOR THAT TRAFFIC THERE.

UM, AND THAT'S MORE OF WHERE WE WANT TO, TO THE REASONING BEHIND THE EXTENSION OF, OF, OF THE HEIGHTS IS MORE OF A TRAFFIC MARKET, BUT FOR GREAT HILLS ROAD, RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU'RE ACROSS THE STREET ON GREAT HILLS TRAIL, THEN YOU DON'T REALLY NEED A SIGN.

MAYBE YOUR PHOTOS NEED TO BE FROM FARTHER AWAY.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT TO TELL YOU.

I I'M JUST NOT SEEING IT AT THIS POINT.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

I KNOW YOU'RE NOT FEELING WELL.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WAS ON MUTE, UM, NEW QUESTIONS ON MY END BOARD MEMBER.

BAILEY.

FUCK.

ALYSSA WAS FIRST MUSH.

OKAY, VICE-CHAIR GO AHEAD.

UH, SO I COULD SEE THIS FROM BOTH PERSPECTIVES.

I AM KIND OF INTERESTED IN HOW TALL THE BUILDING IS ITSELF, BECAUSE I THINK HE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET A ROOF SIGN, BUT YOU HAVE SIGNAGE ON THE PROPERTY.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT I NEED IS FOR YOU TO CLARIFY IF YOU'RE EXCEEDING THE NUMBER OF SIGNS, IF YOU'RE EXCEEDING THE NUMBER OF SIGN FACE AREA OF THE CODE, AND THEN BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SHOWING THE SIGNAGE AND TREES ARE GOING TO GROW.

AND HONESTLY, I THINK IF YOU'RE TRYING TO, WITH ALL THE MAPS AND APPS AND EVERYTHING THAT THERE ARE THESE DAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY HARD TO MISS A TARGET CAUSE, CAUSE MY PHONE'S GOING TO TELL ME TO TURN IN.

UM, IF I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS AND I, I LIVE IN SOUTH AUSTIN AND I KNOW WHERE THIS IS, AND THIS WAS BUILT IN 2008, BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A ROOF SIGN THAT WOULD GET YOU.

UM, WHAT IS THAT FIVE FEET ABOVE THE ROOF? ELAINE, JUST MY ALONG, ALONG WITH A, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOME MONUMENT SIGNS AT YOUR DRIVEWAY AT HOME MIGHT ACTUALLY SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM A LITTLE BETTER CAUSE THE TREES ARE GOING TO GROW.

SO I'M ALL FOR GETTING THE PUBLIC TO SOMEWHERE SAFELY.

I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A VERY TEMPORARY FIX BECAUSE THE TREES ARE JUST GOING TO GROW TALLER.

AND THEN IF YOU MADE IT TO TEACH FROM 2008 TO 2009, THAT MAY SOLVE THE PROBLEM WHERE I WON'T BE AROUND TO HEAR IT AGAIN.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT REALLY IS A SHORT TERM, SOMEWHAT SOLUTION.

AND THEN I THINK VICE CHAIR HAWTHORNE WAS ASKING HOW HIGH A ROOF SIGN TO ME OVER SIGN.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.

OKAY.

UH, BOARD MEMBER BAILEY.

YEAH.

YOU'RE SHOWING ON YOUR PRESENTATION, THIS BANNER THAT'S RIGHT BY THE INTEREST'S ENTRANCE AND YOU'RE SHOWING AWAY FROM GREAT HILLS TRAIL AND YOU CAN SEE IT VERY WELL, WHICH WOULD BE WHAT A MONUMENT SIGN IS.

SO I'M STILL NOT CONVINCED THAT A SIGN UP IN THE TREES AND I CAN TELL YOU I'VE BEEN GOING TO THIS TARGET FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO FIND IT, BUT I GET YOUR CONCERNS AS FAR AS THE TREES ARE GREAT HILLS TRAIL.

UM, BUT IT IS A BIG BUILDING RIGHT THERE.

AND YOU DO HAVE THE GIANT TARGET LOGO ON THE BUILDING.

AND I THINK, UH, MONUMENT SIGN COMING DOWN GREAT JONES TRAIL WOULD BE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE THAN A TALL SIGN.

SO I'M NOT SEEING THE, I JUST DON'T SEE THIS SIGN VARIANT.

UM, I DON'T SEE A REASON FOR IT BECAUSE AS I STATED BEFORE THE TREE AND UM, COUNCIL ON BOARD MEMBER HAWTHORNE SAID THE TREES ARE GONNA GROW.

I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THIS SORT OF VARIANCE BEFORE AND IT HAS, WE HAVE NOT GRANTED THEM BECAUSE OF THAT.

WHEN, IF IT'S JUST TO GET JUST ABOVE THE TREE LINE.

AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S A LOT OF PLACES IT'S NOT ABOVE THE TREE LINE.

IT JUST IS LIKE, IT'S A TEMPORARY THING.

AND ALSO IT'S BEEN THERE SO LONG PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THIS TARGET IS.

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AND SO I'M JUST HAVING A VERY HARD TIME GETTING THERE ON THIS ONE BOARD MEMBER PRO I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE PLENTY OF BOARD MEMBERS WHO BELIEVE THEY NEED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEFORE THEY COULD, UH, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS VARIANCE.

UM, I JUST HAVE MY, MY COMMENT FOR THE APPLICANT AS THAT THE, THE, THE ENTITLEMENT THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS BASED UPON, UH, STRICT ENFORCEMENT WOULD PROHIBIT ANY REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SIGNS ON THE SITE.

AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT IS A LIST OF WANTS AND A LIST OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE.

BUT I DON'T THINK, AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE SAYING.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.

I DON'T THINK WE ARE HEARING HOW THE LACK OF A VARIANCE PROHIBITS THEM FROM HAVING ANY REASONABLE SIGNAGE ON THE, ON THE SITE.

UM, AND SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL APRIL.

SO THE APPLICANT CAN COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT ORIENTATION TOWARDS SHOWING THE BOARD THAT WITHOUT THIS VARIANCE, THERE WOULD BE NO REASONABLE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SIGNAGE ON THIS SITE TO HAVE A SECOND.

I WILL SECOND THAT, UM, I DID LOOK THE RIFF SIGNAGE CODE 'CAUSE I THINK THAT, UM, IT, DEPENDING ON HOW HIGH THE BUILDING IS, SO RESIGN IS ALLOWED AND EXPRESS MY QUARTER AND COMMERCIAL SIGN DISTRICTS, AND YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE FOR A FREESTANDING SIGN.

IT CAN BE FIVE FEET ABOVE THE BUILDING FACADE, AND IT COULD BE FIVE FEET ABOVE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT PERMITTED FOR A FREESTANDING SIGN.

SO IT JUST MAY BE A DIFFERENT WAY TO SKIN THE CAT AND THAT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL MONUMENT SIGNS, WHICH YOU MIGHT NEED A VARIANCE FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNS MIGHT GET YOU IN THAT DRIVEWAY HOLE A LITTLE CLEANER.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SIGN THAT IS GOING TO HELP YOU EXIT THE FREEWAY, I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SIGN, THAT'S TRYING TO GET YOU INTO THE PARKING LOT THAT, AND YOU'RE ON GREAT HILLS TRAIL.

I'M ALL FOR THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE TILL APRIL 11TH, 2020 TO MEET BY VICE CHAIR OR SORRY, MADE BY BOARD MEMBER PRUITT SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR HAWTHORNE.

TELL ME YES, BROOKE BAILEY.

YES, BUT I ALSO WANT TO JUST REAL QUICK NOTICE THAT FROM GREENHILLS TRAIL, YOU GO UP A FAIRLY STEEP RAMP TO THEIR PARKING LOT.

SO WHAT IS THAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUILDING GRADE AND GREAT HILLS GRADE AND THEN THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS OF JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

DARRELL PRO AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

YES.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO COMMENT, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE, UH, FROM VARIOUS BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CURED AS THIS HAS PRESENTED TO US.

SO, UM, I'M JUST MAKING A NOTE THAT WOULD IT BE FAIR TO JUST, YOU KNOW, VOTE ON THIS AND LET THEM COME BACK IF THEY HAVE OTHER SIGNS? I MEAN, WE'VE GIVEN SOME, SOME ALTERNATIVES, BUT LET THEM COME BACK WITH, UH, IF THEY NEED TO COME BACK FOR ALTERNATIVES, SIGNAGE, NICOLE LANE.

YES.

AND MARCEL GUTIERREZ GARZA.

YES.

JESUS POSTPONE UNTIL APRIL 11TH, 2022.

WHERE ARE WE AT ON TIME? MADAM CHAIR? YES.

UM, CAN WE ASK

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ELAINE IF PERHAPS SHE MIGHT HAVE WORD ON ITEMS? SEE ONE BEFORE WE CONTINUE.

UH, SHE, SHE MENTIONED SHE HASN'T HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT, SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF NOTHING NEW.

I'M ASSUMING ELAINE, NO COMMUNICATION FROM THEM.

YES.

FOR ITEMS C1 SHE'S SHE WAS EMAILING ME STATING THAT SHE DIDN'T KNOW SHE HAD TO COME IN AND PRESENT HER CASE.

AH, OKAY.

AND DID WE POSTPONE IT TO NEXT MONTH AND LET HER KNOW THAT YES, SHE HAS TO COME IN AND PRESENT HER CASE AT THAT TIME.

HOT ELAINE'S EMAILS ARE ALWAYS PRETTY INSTRUCTIVE, BUT SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION ON IT.

UM, WELL WE CAN'T HEAR IT WITHOUT THEM PRESENTING, SO I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE.

SO ONE A SECOND.

SORRY.

WHO WAS THE SECOND? OKAY.

BUT LIKE A CLARIFICATION REAL QUICK THOUGH.

IF, IF WE GET INTO MULTIPLE POSTPONEMENTS, THIS IS A POST POUNDER THAT WILL BE BASICALLY HELD AGAINST THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP.

YES.

CORRECT.

I THINK IN THE KINDER, GENTLER WORLD, THEY SCREWED UP.

THEY GET ONE THAT'S FAIR.

I THINK TOO.

SORRY.

SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I GOT THAT RIGHT.

UH, BOARD MEMBER BAILEY MADE THE MOTION AND AUSTRIA HAWTHORNE SECONDARY.

OKAY.

THIS IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE TILL APRIL 11TH, 2022 MADE BY BOARD MEMBER BAILEY SECONDED BY VICE-CHAIR HAWTHORNE.

TOMMY EIGHTS.

YES.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

DARRELL PUT YES.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

YES.

NICOLE WADE.

YES.

KELLY BLOOM AND MARCEL GUTIERREZ GARZA.

YES.

JESUS POSTPONED TILL APRIL 11TH.

OKAY.

MOVING ON

[E-1 C15-2022-0020 Valerie & John Meddaugh 800 Bouldin Avenue]

ITEM E ONE C 15, 20 22 0 0 2 0, VALERIE AND JOHN MEADOW FOR 800 BOLDEN AVENUE.

ARE THEY IN PERSON? COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

UH, GIVE US A SECOND WHILE WE PULL UP YOUR PRESENTATION.

MY PRESENTATION DOESN'T FOLLOW THE VISUAL PRESENTATION.

EXACTLY.

THAT WAS MORE FOR REFERENCE IN CASE ANYBODY WANTED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE SLIDES.

SO IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU ALL.

IF YOU WANT TO RUN IT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN, WE CAN PULL UP SLIDES AS NEEDED, BUT OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS LINDA SULLIVAN.

I AM HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF VALERIE MUDHAL WHO'S THE HOMEOWNER AND PRESENT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

UM, AND JOHN, HER HUSBAND, WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 2.2 FEET FOR A HEIGHT LIMIT EXCEPTION IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR AN ELEVATOR SHAFT, TO BE EXTENDED, TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THEIR ROOFTOP DECK, A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE APPLICANTS AND THE PROPERTY.

THEY MADE AUSTIN THEIR HOME IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES AND STARTED A SMALL BUSINESS.

THAT QUICKLY BECAME PART OF THE CULTURAL FABRIC OF AUSTIN.

THEY'RE DEEPLY INVOLVED WITH THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY AND CHARITABLE ENDEAVORS.

AND AS THEY AGE, THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO MOVE CLOSER INTO DOWNTOWN.

SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO REMAIN ACTIVE AND CONNECTED TO THEIR COMMUNITY IN A MORE HEALTHY WAY.

UM, SO THEY BEGAN LOOKING FOR A LOT.

THEY FOUND ONE AT 800 BOLDEN AVENUE AND ACCESSIBILITY TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WITHIN THE PROPERTY WAS KEY.

THEY PURCHASED THE LOT IN 2013 AND BEGAN TO DESIGN THEIR RESIDENTS TO ALLOW THEM TO AGE IN PLACE.

THEY WERE COMMITTED TO DESIGNING A HOME THAT FIT THE LOT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE THE LOT FIT THE HOME.

AND TO THAT END, THEY DECIDED TO KEEP ALL OF THE EXISTING TREES ON THE PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH ONLY THREE OF THEM WERE PROTECTED.

AND IN THE END, THEY DIDN'T EVEN REQUIRE ANY TRIMMING TO, TO, UH, CONSTRUCT THEIR HOUSE ON THAT LOT.

ALSO IN KEEPING WITH THE SPIRIT OF THEIR LOW IMPACT DESIGN GOAL, THEY CONSIDERED ALL THE EXISTING STRUCTURES AND ELEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO BUILD ON THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT AND MAINTAIN SOME EXISTING RETAINING WALLS ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

ALTHOUGH IT WAS NOT REQUIRED, THEY RESPONSIBLY DEMOLISHED AND RECYCLED THE HOUSE THAT EXISTED ON THE LOT AND, UH, INSTALLED A 5,100 GALLON WATER COLLECTION SYSTEM FOR ANY FUTURE IRRIGATION.

I MENTIONED THESE DETAILS

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TO ILLUSTRATE THAT THE MADONNAS HAD BEEN COMMITTED TO NOT ONLY FOLLOWING THE SPIRIT OF AUSTIN'S CODE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEY WENT BEYOND THE REQUIREMENTS TO HOPEFULLY REDUCE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LOT REUSE STRUCTURES AND MATERIALS WHEN POSSIBLE, AND THEN RECYCLE THOSE MATERIALS WHEN REUSE WASN'T POSSIBLE.

SO NOW ON TO OUR REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE TO CODE THE HARDSHIP IS CREATED IN THE FACT THAT THIS LOT IS MUCH MORE SLOPED THAN THE OTHERS SURROUNDING IT.

UM, WHICH IS A UNIQUE CHALLENGE FOR THAT LOT.

IT'S SMALLER THAN AVERAGE WITH JUST OVER 7,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDABLE AREA.

SO THAT SLOPED PRESENTS A CHALLENGE IN THAT THE AVERAGE ADJACENT GRADE LIMITED THEIR TENTS AND THE, AND, AND IT MADE IT, UH, DIFFICULT TO GET THAT ELEVATOR SHAFT ALL THE WAY TO THE THIRD FLOOR.

THEY INITIALLY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, BUT THERE WAS AN ERROR IN CALCULATION THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDED FOR THE CAB OF THE ELEVATOR TO BE WITHIN THE TENT LIMITATION REQUIREMENTS.

BUT THE MECHANISM THAT PULLED THE CAB UP REQUIRED THAT EXTRA TWO FEET OF SPACE, 2.2 FEET OF SPACE.

SO THE ACCESS WAS NOT SUFFICIENT.

AND SO THEY LET GO OF THE IDEA OF, OF HAVING THAT ELEVATOR REACHED THE SPACE.

THEY ONLY HAD THE STAIRWELL TO GET THERE.

SO THE SLOPE TENTS, ELEVATOR SPECIFICATIONS WERE REVIEWED AFTER THERE WERE SOME KNEE ISSUES AS THEY AGED IN PLACE AND THEN A PANDEMIC HAD THEM IN THEIR HOUSE.

SO THE CONVERSATION CAME UP.

MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS AGAIN.

SO IN KEEPING WITH THE COMMUNITY MINDNESS AND DESIRE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, THEY WENT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS FIRST AND ASKED THEM IF THIS WOULD BE A REASONABLE REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE.

AND THE NEIGHBORS UNANIMOUSLY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT THEM IF THEY PURSUED IT.

SO AFTER THAT UNANIMOUS POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS, THEY TOOK PHOTOS, NEIGHBORS WROTE LETTERS, AND THEN THEY WENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BOLDEN CREEK AND PRESENTED IT TO THEM.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DETERMINED THAT THEY WOULD NOT OPPOSE THE REQUEST FOR VARIANTS.

AND WE MOVED FORWARD WITH REQUESTING PERMITS, WHICH THEN LED US TO THE VARIANCE REQUEST TONIGHT.

SO ON BEHALF OF JOHN AND VALERIE, I OFFER THAT GRANTING THIS VARIANCE WOULD NOT, UM, IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN A NEGATIVE WAY.

IT WOULD ALLOW FOR REASONABLE USE FOR A LOT DUE TO THE HARDSHIP OF THE SLOPE.

AND IT WOULD ALSO CREATE AN ADA ACCESSIBLE PROPERTY FOR THE NEXT RESIDENT THAT WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN AUSTIN AND USE THIS PROPERTY TO ITS FULL USE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE'RE HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION.

UM, SORRY, I'LL GO IN THE ORDER I SAW YOU CAUSE THE SCREEN JUMPED AROUND A LITTLE.

SO I'LL START WITH BOARD MEMBER WADE.

YES.

UM, AND I'M SORRY IF THIS WAS IN THE PACKET, UM, I HAVE NOT BEEN FEELING WELL.

THAT IS THE NEED FOR THE ELEVATOR SHAFT TO ACCOMMODATE A, A PERSONAL COMFORT OF THE EXISTING OWNER OR, UM, IS THERE SOMETHING, IS IT SOMETHING MORE LIKE A PREFERENCE TO HAVE THE ELEVATOR? IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY JUST STAY THERE AND WE'RE DONE WITH QUESTIONS.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE I'M CLEAR ON YOUR QUESTION.

IT'S IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS INTENDED FROM THE BEGINNING OF DESIGN TO BE A PART OF THE DESIGN, BUT DUE TO AN ERROR IN CALCULATION ON THE DESIGN TEAM, THEY WERE A LITTLE TOO FAR INTO THE DESIGN TO ACCOMMODATE OTHERWISE.

IF THEY WANTED TO SIT ON THE FOUNDATION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY THERE AND ACCOMMODATE OTHER REUSE OPTIONS ON THE LOT FIT THE LOT IN, THEY REALIZED THIS TWO FOOT ERROR WAS GOING TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH THAT LIVABLE, THAT, THAT LIVING AREA, IT'S NOT CONDITIONED SPACE.

IT'S A ROOFTOP DECK ON THAT THIRD FLOOR SPACE.

THE HOUSE IS REASONABLY SMALL.

UM, IT'S UNDER 3000 SQUARE FEET OR JUST AT 3000 SQUARE FEET.

SO IT'S NOT AN EXCESSIVELY LARGE HOUSE.

AND, AND THAT SPACE WAS SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, I GUESS IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL PREFERENCE, IT'S SURE OF COURSE THEY'D LIKE TO BE ACCESS, TO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL PARTS OF THEIR RESIDENTS AS THEY AGE.

THAT WAS THE GOAL INITIALLY.

AND I THINK AS WITH ALL OF US AGE CREPT UP A LITTLE FASTER THAN THEY EXPECTED, SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT HARDSHIP CAN'T BE PERSONAL, BUT BECAUSE THIS LOT SLOPES FAT CORNER BACK LEFT CORNER TO FRONT RIGHT CORNER, IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT SLOPE TO NAVIGATE.

AND I SUPPOSE THEY COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, DUG DOWN FURTHER OR, YOU KNOW, MOVED MORE EARTH OUT OF THERE, BUT THAT DIDN'T REALLY MEET THE, THE INITIAL GOALS OF TRYING TO BE A VERY LOW IMPACT BUILD.

SO EARLY ON, THEY MADE

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THIS DIFFICULT CHOICE.

AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN THEY WERE IN THEIR HOUSE FOR SO LONG AND THESE MOBILITY ISSUES STARTED BECOMING MORE INTENSE, THEY THOUGHT, OKAY, MAYBE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REVISIT HOW DIFFICULT THE SITE WAS TO BUILD ON AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS VARIANCE APPROVED UNDER THAT ANSWERS.

OKAY.

BOARD MEMBER SMITH.

AND DO YOU HAVE THE, ALL THE SUPPORT LETTERS I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL SECOND THAT, UH, CAN YOU HANG ON ONE SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY BOARD MEMBERS, SMITH SECONDARY BY VICE-CHAIR HAWTHORNE, STILL A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.

UH, NEXT WAS, I DID HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT.

OKAY.

UM, SO 25 TO 5 31, UH, C HAS ANOTHER PROVISION, WHICH IS NUMBER TWO.

AND THAT TALKS ABOUT THE AMOUNT NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH A FEDERAL OR STATE GUIDELINE.

AND SO I'M CURIOUS IF THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT THE VARIANCE IS FOR IS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH A FEDERAL STATE GUIDELINE FOR CLEARANCE.

I CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE IT'S EIGHT FEET.

I MEAN, IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN YOUR POCKET.

SO IF IT IS FOR A FEDERAL OR STATE GUIDELINE, CAUSE YOU'RE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TALL THAT IS.

YOU DIDN'T DIMENSION YOUR PHOTO.

UM, AND THERE'S SO MUCH THERE.

AND YOU'VE SAID SO MANY WORDS, PLEASE I'M I I'M GOOD WITH LESS IS MORE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING YOU MIGHT, IF IT WAS TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE OR FEDERAL GUIDELINE, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE NEEDED THE VARIANCE.

YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN LIMITED TO THE 15%, UH, BOARD MEMBER RODRIGUEZ OF SORRY, BOARD MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

YEAH.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU, WHAT THE SPECIFICATION OF THE ELEVATOR IS, IF YOU'RE USING A HYDRAULIC ELEVATOR OR A GEARED ELEVATOR, OR IS IT GEAR LIST, IS THERE ANY OTHER SPEC YOU COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK INTO THAT MIGHT NOT NEED THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I BELIEVE IT'S A GEARED ELEVATOR.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

IT'S A GEARED ELEVATOR AND I BELIEVE TWO OPTIONS WERE LOOKED AT AND BOTH REQUIRED APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET.

THIS ONE IS FOR MORE SPACE BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET OUT THERE, WE WERE CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR TWO FEET AND NEED TWO FEET, FOUR INCHES.

SO WE THOUGHT ASKING FOR TWO FEET, FOUR INCHES AND ONLY NEEDING ONE FOOT 11 WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO GO THEN THE REVERSE.

SO AS FAR AS A HYDRAULIC OPTION, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN LOOKED INTO, UH, ACCORD MEMBER BAILEY.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT I JUST HAVE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, THIS OTHER STEPS DOWN TO THE GARAGE FROM INTERIOR, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE ELEVATOR'S ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE GARAGE, OR AM I THE GARAGE ACCESSES IT, THAT THE GARAGE IS ACCEPT BY THE ELEVATOR.

SO YOU COME IN VISIBILITY, YOU CAN PULL IN TO THAT GARAGE AND GET ON THE ELEVATOR AND GO UP.

OKAY.

AND I JUST HAVE TO BE PLAYED DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE, ALL THESE THINGS.

AND THE SUPPORT IS WONDERFUL AND WHY THEY WANT TO STAY IS WONDERFUL.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT NOT ONE OF THESE THINGS AS A HARDSHIP.

AND SO I AM STRUGGLING WITH THAT.

I WILL SAY THAT I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LOT.

I DON'T THINK IT REALLY AFFECTS THE ELEVATOR, BUT, UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DON'T THINK THAT I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH YOUR HARDSHIP BECAUSE IT ALL SEEMS LIKE A DESIRE AND UNDERSTAND THEY WANT TO AGE IN PLACE, BUT THAT IS NOT A LEGAL HARDSHIP THAT THIS BOARD CAN CONSIDER.

AND SO, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY THROUGH THIS BECAUSE SO FAR, NOTHING THAT IS A HARDSHIP THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CONSIDER HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

SO MAYBE WE, I WISH YOU HAD SOME MORE TOPOGRAPHY MAPS SO THAT WE CAN SEE, UM, HOW THAT IS, BECAUSE WHILE THERE'S A SLOPE, UM, YEAH.

ANYWAYS, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I OPPOSE IT.

UM, BUT, BUT I AM SAYING I'M STRUGGLING WITH YOUR HARDSHIP.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

KEY.

THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE MADE BY BOARD MEMBERS SMITH.

SECOND END BY VICE-CHAIR HAWTHORNE.

AS WE CHAIR ERICA LOPEZ, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

WERE THERE ANY FINDINGS WITH THAT MOTION TO APPROVE? THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

UH, BOARD MEMBER SMITH, PLEASE READ THE FINDINGS, HAVE THEM HERE IN FRONT OF ME.

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UH, WHEN I GO FOR IT, MELISSA, I JUST SO PROUD WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN Y'ALL STEP OUT AND MAKE A MOTION AND MICHAEL'S NOT HERE.

AND SO, UH, ZONING REGULATIONS AFTER THE PROPERTY, JOHN LAW FOR A REASONABLY USED CAUSE THE SLOPE OF THE LAW DICTATES AN AVERAGE GRADE.

THAT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE.

IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THAT VADER SHAFT DIPPER TRUED THE 2.2 FEET BEYOND THE REQUIRED TENT, WHICH MAKES THE UPPER MOST LIVING AREA NOT ACCESSIBLE BY THE ROW RESIDENTS WITH DISABILITIES.

OH, HOLD ON A SECOND.

I WANT TO LOOK AT THE POSTING LANGUAGE REAL QUICK.

AND UM, SO THIS IS A TENT VARIANCE OR A HEIGHT LIMIT EXCEPTION BECAUSE WE'RE POSTED FOR A HEIGHT LIMIT EXCEPTION, NOT TENT, IT'S A HEIGHTENED LIMIT IS WHAT IS, YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT'S POSTED, RIGHT.

I THINK THERE'S 36 8.

THE PERSON FINDING TALKS ABOUT TENTS, YON, THE REQUIRED TENTS.

SO ELAINE AM I, DO I HAVE AN ISSUE BEFORE I CONTINUE? I'M NOT SURE WE COULD ASK THE APPLICANT EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING.

THEY'RE ON TOP OF PAGE FIVE, IT SAID HEIGHT LIMIT, RIGHT? BUT THE FIRST FINDING TALKS ABOUT TENTS IS THERE, IS THERE ALSO AN ISSUE WITH THE TENT PROVISIONS OF SUB CHAPTER APP? IT, DO YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK TO THAT? SO THE HEIGHT LIMIT EXCEPTION IS WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED AS A VARIANCE.

WE WERE ADVISED, UM, BECAUSE WE MET WITH, WITH DEPARTMENT, UM, RESIDENTIAL REVIEW PRIOR TO SUBMITTING AND THEY LET US KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A HEIGHT LIMIT EXCEPTION AND GAVE US THE LANGUAGE TO APPLY WITH.

OKAY.

CAUSE YOU'RE USING THE WORD 10TH, WHICH MAKES ME WONDER ABOUT THE SLOW THAT, SO THE WAY THAT THE RESIDENTIAL REVIEWER EXPRESS THIS TO US WAS IN WRITING IN AN EMAIL AND HE , DICK SAID THAT THE TENT WAS THE INITIAL JUMPING OFF POINT TO THEN FIND THE HEIGHT LIMIT ASSUMPTION.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE THAT'S WHY BOTH OF THEM ARE.

OKAY.

CAUSE I STILL THINK THAT 25 TO 5 31 C TWO, YOU MAY NOT HAVE ACTUALLY NEEDED THIS VARIANCE.

IF YOU HAD CHECKED THE FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATION AND WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR CLARENCE OF AN ELEVATOR NOW, WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAD TO HAVE THE ELEVATOR GO TO THAT FLOOR IS JUST A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OUR HARDSHIP, THE HARDSHIP FOR WHICH THE PARENTS IS REQUESTED AS YOU NEED TO PROPERTY AND THAT THE TYPOGRAPHY A LOT OF CRAZY CHALLENGES IN ORDER TO, AS WELL AS TO HAVING AN EXISTING HOUSE AND TRY TO GET AN ELEVATOR INTO YOUR HOME, BELIEVE ME, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LOT SLOPES AND, AND MAKES A, A AVERAGE GRADE, A LITTLE MORE NON-CONSISTENT WITH OTHER LOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE HARDSHIP IS NOT GENERAL THE AREA IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED BECAUSE THE LODGE TOPOGRAPHY IS MORE SLOPED ON THIS LOT THAN OTHERS.

AND THE SLOPE FALLS DIRECTLY ACROSS INSTEAD OF FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, SORRY, CREATE AIDS IN ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE, THEIR CHARACTER, THE VARIANCE WILL NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER AREA.

JASON, THE PROPERTY WILL NOT APPEAR TO THE USE OF ADJACENT CONFORMING PROPERTY AND WILL NOT IMPAIR THE PURPOSE OF THE REGULATIONS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AS THE ELEVATOR WILL BE GOING IN THE, WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE.

AND HONESTLY, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE FROM THE SURROUNDING TREES AND IT IS A DIMINIMOUS, UH, REQUEST.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I OKAY.

CALL THE ROLL.

TOMMY EIGHTS.

YES.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

GERALD PRA.

YES.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

UH, YES, BUT I'M WITH, UM, WARD MEMBER BAILEY.

I THOUGHT THE HARDSHIP WAS A LITTLE BIT, UM, LACKING AND I AM HAPPY YOU

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HAVE ALL THE NEIGHBORS SUPPORT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT KIND OF, AND IT'S AN INNOCUOUS REQUEST.

SO YES.

BOARD MEMBER SMITH.

YES.

NICOLE WADE.

YES.

KELLY BLOOM AND MARCEL GUTIERREZ GARZA.

YES.

K YOUR EMOTION IS GROWN OR SORRY.

YOUR VARIANCE IS GRANTED.

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

UH, SO REAL QUICK, I WANTED TO TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A NEW ALTERNATE BOARD MEMBER SERVING WITH US TONIGHT TO MY LEFT HERE.

MARCEL GUTIERREZ GARZA.

DO YOU PREFER TO BE CALLED BY YOUR FULL LAST NAME OR I'M HAPPY WITH JUST MARCEL ACTUALLY, BUT MARK MARCEL GARS IS JUST FINE.

THANKS.

OKAY.

SURE.

UM, AND I THINK BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING ABOUT THAT TIME WHERE EVERYBODY'S SERVED FOR AT LEAST A WEEK, MOST OF US HAVE SERVED FOR AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT.

NOW, IF YOU'RE NEW TO IT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN APPLICANTS VARIANCE APPLICATION, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THREE THINGS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE REASONABLE, USE THE HARDSHIPS AND THE AREA CHARACTER.

THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS YOU NEED TO READ ON YOUR FINDINGS.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, CHECK THOSE IT'S, YOU CAN, YOU, YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE LANGUAGE COMPLETELY, BUT YOU CAN SHORTEN IT IF IT'S A BIT VERBOSE AND TO SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDABLE.

AND THAT BECOMES THE LEGALLY BINDING, UH, DEFINITION OF WHAT'S READ GOES INTO THE ARCHIVE.

SO, AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, FEEL FREE TO ASK.

CAUSE THERE'S LIKE A THOUSAND THINGS I WISH PEOPLE HAD TOLD ME WHEN I FIRST JOINED THE BOARD, BUT HAD TO FIGURE OUT OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

OKAY.

MOVING ON.

[E-2 C15-2022-0021 Bhavani Singal for Heidi Lew 3701 Robbins Road]

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM, EAT TO SEE 15 20 22 0 0 2 1.

THIS IS GOING TO BE BHAVANI SINGER FOR HEIDI LOU AT 3 7 0 1 ROBBINS WROTE HI, I DIDN'T COME ON UP.

STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

UH, GIVE US ONE SECOND WHILE WE PULL UP YOUR PRESENTATION.

SURE.

OKAY.

STATE YOUR NAME WHEN YOU'VE GOT FIVE MINUTES.

YEAH, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS GIOVANNI SINGLE.

I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE 37 0 1 ROBBINS ROAD.

UM, AND I WANT TO START THE PRESENTATION WITH SAYING THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TWO VARIANCES ON THIS PROJECT.

ONE IS TO DECREASE THE FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM 40 FEET TO 15 FEET.

AND THEN TWO, WE'RE ASKING A VARIANCE ON SOME OF THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGES, WHICH COME, UM, FROM THE LA ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, THERE'S UM, WHILE WE'RE MINIMIZING THE BIGGEST PORTION, THERE'S SOME PIECES THAT, UM, WE'RE BUILDING ONTO SOME OF THIS DEEPER SLOPES OF THE LOT THAT ARE THROWING US OVER AND REQUIRING THIS VARIANCE.

AND I LIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROJECT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, HERE, WE WANTED TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST ORIENT YOU ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE PROJECT.

SO IT'S 37 1 ROBBINS ROAD FACING THE LAKE AND ROBBINS ROAD IS A VERY THIN STREET THAT, UM, WE'RE KIND OF, WE HAVE A VERY STREET STEEP DRIVEWAY COMING DOWN ONTO THE PROPERTY.

SO THIS, THE TOP IMAGE IS TRYING TO SHOW YOU WITH THE GREEN DASH LINES, WHAT THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT DOES ON THE PROPERTY AND THE IMAGE BEHIND IT IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CURRENT GARAGE IS A NON-COMPLIANCE STRUCTURE.

UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WHILE WE'RE MAINTAINING IT AT THE EXISTING

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ACTUALLY WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY OUT CLOSER THAN 15 FEET, WE'RE MANAGING TO MAKE IT 15 FEET EVEN.

UM, WE HAVE A LITTLE BLUE DOT ON THE PLAN THAT SHOWS A WATER WELL LOCATION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A FLOOD CLAIM, A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN THAT WE'RE HAVING TO COMPLY WITH.

AND WHICH IS THAT GRID DASH LINE OR BOWL LINE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN IT'S CALLED OUT AS THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN THROUGHOUT OUR DIAGRAMS. YOU'RE TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE THE FLOODPLAINS IMPACT ON THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE SLOPE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SLOPE ON THE SECTION IS IT'S STEEP AND THEN IT PLATEAUS AND THEN IT STEEP AGAIN AND IT PLATEAUS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUR IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE EXACTLY WHERE IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT THE SITE ANY MORE THAN IT'S BEEN IMPACTED.

UM, SO THE OTHER COMPONENT TO THIS PROJECT TO KEEP IN MIND IS THE HOMEOWNERS ARE AGING AS WELL.

UM, THEY WILL, THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE CREATE A ZERO THRESHOLD ENTRY FROM THE GARAGE AND WE HAVE PLACED AN ELEVATOR INSIDE THEIR HOME AS WELL.

THAT'S QUITE ON POINT WITH THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.

UM, THESE ARE SOME PICTURES SHOWING YOU THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

THE FIRST IMAGE ON THE TOP LEFT IS SHOWING YOU HOW STEEP THE CURRENT APPROACHES.

UM, THE NEXT IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS SHOWING YOU THE VIEW FROM THE DOPE, UH, BOAT DOCK.

THAT'S CURRENTLY ON SITE LOOKING TOWARDS THE HOUSE.

THE IMAGE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER IS SHOWING YOU THE CURRENT GARAGE, THE COVERT WALKWAY, THAT'S CONNECTING TO THE MAIN HOUSE.

SO CURRENTLY THERE IS A SERIES OF STEPS FOR FOLKS TO GET FROM THE GARAGE TO THE MAIN HOUSE, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT AS YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T WORK FOR FOLKS THAT ARE AGING IN PLACE AND THEN ACROSS FROM THE GARAGE, THERE'S A CAR PORT STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE REMOVING, WE'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE COMPLETELY.

UM, WE STUDIED THE SITE WHEN WE STARTED DESIGNING THIS PROJECT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY WERE THREE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE NOTICED THAT HAVE A SIMILAR FRONT YARD SETBACK OF 15 FEET.

UM, SO IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS PRECEDENTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY HAVE BEEN VARIANCES GRANTED IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF SIMILAR ISSUES.

UM, THE FLOODPLAIN IS REQUIRING US TO RAISE THE CURRENT ELEVATION OF THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY BY TWO, ALMOST THREE FEET AND THE HOUSE NEEDS TO COME UP ALMOST EIGHT FEET.

UM, SO THAT FLOODPLAIN IS INSTANTLY CHANGING PLANS ON US.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS SHOWING YOU THE EXISTING IMPACT AND THE NEW IMPACT, UM, THE TABLE THAT WE CREATED ON TOP, IT SHOWS YOU FOR THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THE HOUSE WE ARE AT IN FACT, REDUCING FROM 58 TO 48%, BUT THE STEEP SLOPE SECTIONS, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO BRIDGE FROM THE GARAGE TO THE MAIN HOUSE IS EXCEEDING THE ALLOWED 10% AND 5%.

SO WE ARE THAT'S MY TIMER.

AH, IT'S SCARY.

OKAY.

UM, THESE ARE SOME IMAGES THAT ARE JUST SHOWING YOU WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

WE TRY TO DRAW THE FLOOD PLAIN ELEVATION WITH A LITTLE GRAY LINE TO SHOW YOU THE IMPACT AND WE'RE FREE BOARDING IT TWO FEET ABOVE THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN LINE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEP.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

START WITH QUESTIONS, BOARD MEMBER BERLIN.

SORRY.

THERE'S A DELAY ON MY UNMUTING.

IT'S VERY DISCONCERTING.

UM, SO YOU'RE PROPOSING TO RETAIN ALL OF THAT CONCRETE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS, WHERE THE GARAGE AND THE CARPORT ARE LOCATED.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ELEVATE IT.

UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP CONCRETE WHERE IT IS.

SO WE'RE NOT IMPACTING UNDISTURBED GROUND BY, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOVER SOME OF YOUR PERVIOUS SURFACE BY ELIMINATING SOME OF THAT DRIVEWAY AREA? RIGHT.

UM, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.

THE ISSUE IS THAT THE, WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO MAKE THE APPROACH MORE APPROACHABLE.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT AN INTERSECTION POINT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO PULL THE DRIVEWAY AWAY FROM THAT INTERSECTION POINT FOR EASE OF NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESS AS WELL.

SO THE WAY THE SITE PLANS SHOWING IT'S CURVING AROUND, WE ARE TRYING TO BRING IN GREEN PORTIONS WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY

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ALL CONCRETE.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE THE DRIVEWAY A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, EASY TO USE.

OKAY.

NUMBER BAILEY.

YES.

HAS THIS LAW BEEN SCRAPED YET OR IS THE EXISTING STILL THERE? IT'S EXISTING STILL THERE.

OKAY.

CAUSE ONE POINT I WANT TO JUST KIND OF BRING UP TO THE BOARD IS IF THIS WAS A VACANT LOT, WHICH IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT VARIANCES WOULD WE APPROVE ON THIS PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE NEW MEMBERS.

BUT WE ALWAYS LOOK AT IT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS THEY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT EXISTING, BUT NONE OF THAT IS GOING TO BE THERE.

IT'S ALL GOING TO BE GONE.

THIS WILL BE A VACANT LOT.

AND WHAT WOULD WE APPROVE ON A VACANT LOT? AND ONE COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS YES, YOU HAVE THE DRIVEWAY COMING IN INTO THE GARAGE, WHICH GOES INTO THE HOUSE, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT COMES DOWN FROM THE STREET.

THEN YOU ALSO HAVE WALKWAY THAT GOES ACROSS.

AND ALL OF THAT IS IMPERVIOUS.

AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO RECAPTURE, UM, ANYTHING ON THIS.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT RAIN, GARDENS, WATER, RAIN BARRELS, OR ANY KIND OF SYSTEMS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO PUT IN PLACE TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD ON THIS.

I UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD POINT TO BRING UP WITH OUR CLIENTS.

SO YOU DON'T, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MITIGATION.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MITIGATION IN THE DESIGN AS OF YET.

UM, BECAUSE MOST OF OUR FOCUS WAS KEEPING THINGS WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE LOCATED.

UM, RIGHT.

SO THE, FOR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FIX, HIS OLD CODE THAT WAS BAD AND TRYING TO IMPROVE ANYTHING THAT GOES IN IT SHOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT, NOT THE SAME OLD, SAME OLD, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE LA ZONING.

IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ISSUE.

YEAH.

I WILL SAY ONE THING THAT THE SIDEWALK THAT YOU'RE SEEING GOING FROM THE DRIVEWAY TO THE HOUSE IS IN FACT, A BRIDGE.

UM, IT IS NOT BEING COMPLETELY BUILT DOWN TO THE GROUND WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE STRUCTURE AS LIGHTENED AREA AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WATER CAN STILL MOVE UNDERNEATH IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, EMOTION, BOARD MEMBER BLOOM.

OKAY.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, I STILL FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO CUT BACK ON THE IMPERVIOUS, THE ASK FOR THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE, RIGHT.

VARIANCES.

UM, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY OKAY WITH THE SETBACK PERIODS BECAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE THE EXISTING GARAGE IS, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE PRESENTING A SIGHT DISTANCE ISSUE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT EVEN LOOKING AT, UM, THAT THE PROXIMITY OF THE DRIVEWAY TO THE NORTH, UM, I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT THAT'S ENOUGH OF AN ARGUMENT TO SUGGEST MOVING THE DRIVEWAY ENTIRELY TO THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE.

UM, SO I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING A LITTLE BIT MORE STUDY OF THAT AND WHILE WE'RE DOING IT, WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT BRENE ARDENNES OR OTHER SORTS OF RAINWATER COLLECTION SYSTEMS. SURE.

BOARD MEMBER SMITH.

SO I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BACK TO THE EARLIER POINT ABOUT YOU'RE BASICALLY BUILDING ON A VACANT LOT.

UM, I GUESS I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE NOT BUILDING TO CODE ON THE VACANT LOT.

UM, CAN I SPEAK TO THAT? YES.

OKAY.

UM, SO WHAT IT IS IS WHILE WE'RE, WHILE THE NEW STRUCTURE IS SITTING PRETTY MUCH WHERE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS, THE PORTIONS THAT WE'RE EXCEEDING AND IMPERVIOUS ARE THE STEEP PORTIONS OF THE SITE.

SO, UM, THE BRIDGES, UM, THAT WE'RE CREATING WHILE IT'S A BRIDGE AND WATER CAN GO UNDERNEATH IT PER CODE, WE'RE HAVING TO CALCULATE IT AS IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ON THE SITE.

SO WE'RE SORT OF CAUGHT IN A LITTLE BIT OF A CODE LANGUAGE THING HERE BECAUSE IT'S, UM, WHILE WE'RE LETTING WATER MOVE THROUGH IT, WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THE GROUND WHAT'S BEING TOUCHED IS LIKE PEERS OR COLUMNS COMING DOWN.

UM, SO THAT'S, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO RESOLVE THAT.

THAT SEEMS TO BE A CODE RELATED CONFUSION FROM, FOR US AT LEAST ICE TRAIL HOTLINE.

SO WHAT WOULD IT BE PRETTY HELPFUL FOR ME IS YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE YOUR NICE CHART WITH YOUR ALLOWED YOUR EXISTING IN YOUR PROPOSED,

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IF YOU COULD COLOR CODE WHERE INSTEAD OF GOING DOWN WHERE YOU'RE GOING UP, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE, THESE ARE COMPLICATED AND, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU NEED A VARIANCE.

THERE WAS A VARIANCE THAT WAS GRANTED AT 3,605 ROBIN ROAD UM, FOR, UH, THEIR PRINT SET BACK TO GET THEIR GARAGE IN, WHICH WAS 12 FEET.

AND THEY ALSO HAD IMPERVIOUS COVER, BUT THEY REDUCED ALL THEIR CATEGORIES.

UM, AND SO IF YOU HAVE AN ASK TO EXCEED YOUR EXISTING, I KINDA NEED MORE ON, I MEAN, I SEE YOUR BIRD SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WHERE YOU HAVE AN EXISTING WALKWAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO STILL LIKE TO SEE YOU TRIED TO REDUCE IMPERVIOUS COVER IN SOME MANNER OR RAINWATER COLLECTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE.

OKAY.

UM, AND, AND WHILE YOU DO HAVE A NICE SLOPE MAP, ET CETERA, IT, THEY ARE KIND OF HARD TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU'RE, I MEAN, THESE CASES ARE PRETTY HARD JUST IN, IN GENERAL.

UM, IF YOU COULD COLOR CODE IS SLOPE MAP, LIKE MAYBE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PUT THEM ON ONE THING, PUT THEM ON SEPARATE THINGS, UM, OF YOUR EXISTING AND YOUR PROPOSED.

AT A LOT OF TIMES, WE DON'T GET A VACANT LOT.

WE, THE HOUSE IS STILL THERE.

UH, I MEAN THEY UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED, BUT, AND THAT YOU'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT, BUT A RAINWATER COLLECTION, UM, AND I GET THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN A BRIDGE AND THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO UNDER IT.

THE WATER WILL BE ABLE TO GO UNDER IT.

MAYBE GET, GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE REASONING FOR THAT.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND IT.

IT'S JUST, THIS IS, UM, SUPER MAJORITY BOARD AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE NINE BOATS OUT OF 11 AND SO YOU NEED TO MAKE IT PRETTY CLEAR OF WHAT MAKES YOU SPECIAL.

AND ALSO, YEAH, YOU DO HAVE A BRIDGE, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A SOLID BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IS RUNNING UNDER IT, BUT THERE'S A BUILDING RIGHT THERE.

SO IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT BETTER, MAYBE DO SOMETHING FROM DOWN BELOW WHERE THE BRIDGE CROSSES OVER.

SHE MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THIS BOARD TO UNDERSTAND, CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING WATER'S GOING TO RUN UNDER IT, BUT WHERE'S IT GOING TO RUN TO, IF THERE'S A BUILDING ON THREE SIDES OR, OR IMPERVIOUS ON THREE SIDES, THAT WOULD MIGHT BE HELPFUL ALSO.

RIGHT.

CAN I ASK FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON, ON, UM, THE RAINWATER COLLECTION SYSTEMS? SO IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR US TO MITIGATE, WE'RE SORT OF TRYING TO MITIGATE THE WATER OR TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THAT.

HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY HOW MUCH ACTUALLY A CHART FOR THAT APPEAL, EMAIL, ELAINE.

SHE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

AND THEN, YEAH, WHEN YOU COME BACK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PRESENT YOUR DESIGNS BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU JUST READING OFF THE BOARD MEMBERS RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A CONDITION OF THE BEARINGS.

IT'S GOING TO BE MANDATORY.

GOT IT.

NO, I WAS JUST, AND THERE'S ALSO WRITING GARDENS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RAIN BARRELS.

THERE'S LANDSCAPING THAT YOU CAN DO.

I MEAN, THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS YOU CAN DO TO MITIGATE THAT, THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS THAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD ALSO LOOK AT WAYS TO REDUCE THAT BEFORE YOU COME BACK BOARD MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.

I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT THERE'S A CALCULATION AID FOR THE RAIN GARDEN AS WELL, WHICH IS REALLY HELPFUL.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

IS THERE A PROCESS BECAUSE LIKE MELISSA SAID, THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED, LIKE THERE'S, IT CAN'T BE, IT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT WITH SOMEONE.

IS THERE LIKE THE HISTORIC DEPARTMENT DOES AN OFFLINE MEETING TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS.

IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH WITH SOMEONE ON THE BOARD THAT WE COULD, UM, AND WORK TOGETHER, THE BOARD WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO TALK TO YOU OUTSIDE OF THE HEARING SETTING? UH, ELAINE, IS THERE ANYONE AT DSD OR LIKE A SITE REMORSE, MAYBE SOMEBODY AT WATERSHED, MAYBE WATERSHED, BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN OF THAT.

SORRY.

SO, I MEAN, SO I GET YOU, CAN'T PULL BOLT ON YOUR STEEP SLOPE OVER TO THE BUILDING.

LIKE YOU'RE COMING FROM THE ROAD AND IT'S PRETTY STEEP AND IT'S GOING DOWN AND THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET, UM, YOU KNOW,

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IN THE LOT INTO THE HOUSE WHERE THERE'S AN ELEVATOR AND A RE RELATIVELY FLAT.

SO, AND YOU HAVE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

SO LOOKING HOW TO MAKE YOUR CONDITIONS BETTER, BECAUSE YOU, YOU HAVE ALL THESE SLOPE CATEGORIES AND YOU'VE GOT THESE AREAS THAT YOU'RE REDUCING.

AND OF COURSE THE AREA WHERE YOU'RE NOT REDUCING IS WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, HUMANS.

SO YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF HOW AM I MAKING IT BETTER? WHAT'S YOUR OFFSET, LA, ZONING'S JUST HARD.

IT'S HARD FOR ANYBODY TO DESIGN LA WITHOUT A VARIANCE.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT'S JUST, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONVEY ALL THAT TO THESE, THESE 11 PEOPLE AND HAVE NINE OF THEM GO, YAY, GOOD JOB.

AND ALSO, I THINK YOU NEED TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THE MINIMUM TO ACCOMPLISH AND TO GET AS CLOSE TO CODE AS YOU CAN.

AND I DON'T THINK, I THINK THAT WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE SEEING THAT WITH YOUR DESIGN.

I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WANT THAT, THAT THIS DESIGN IS A DESIRE AND IN SOME PLACES YOU'RE MINIMIZING AND THAT HELPS, BUT I THINK, UM, IT WOULD HELP A LOT MORE IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN HOW YOU WERE TRYING TO GET AS CLOSE TO CODE AS POSSIBLE.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE SEE A BIG EXPANSE OF CONCRETE.

WE SEE TWO WALKWAYS BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO A WALKWAY FROM THE GARAGE TO THE HOUSE INTERNALLY.

AND THEN THERE'S AN EXTERIOR WALKWAY FROM THE, THE PARKING PAD TO THE HOUSE EXTERNALLY.

THERE'S ONE INTERNAL AND ONE EXTERNAL, AND THEN THERE'S A SIDEWALK TO THE STREET.

SO IF YOU COULD HELP US WITH THAT, UM, AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OF THAT, THAT COULD BE MINIMIZED AND ALSO EXPLAIN THE, THE RUNOFF AND THAT.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS YOU SEWN.

YEAH.

SURE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE, UH, MAYBE PULLING BACK THAT CAR PART AREA.

I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY LARGE.

THIS IS ALL FREE OF CHARGE BY THE WAY.

I THINK THERE'S THE CARPORT.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A PAD THERE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY I, IT, AND MAYBE THEY COULD GET RID OF THAT.

YEAH.

PAULINE BACK AND DOING SOME RESTORATION AND GRADE IN THAT AREA MIGHT BE PRETTY AWESOME.

THANK YOU, MELISSA.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE OR, SORRY.

SORRY.

LOOK BACK UP.

MOTION TO POSTPONE TO THE APRIL 11TH, 2022 MADE BY VICE CHAIR, HAWTHORNE, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER.

BAILEY.

LET'S CALL THE ROLL AND I'M GOING TO GO BACKWARDS THIS TIME.

JUST SO TOMMY DOESN'T HAVE TO GO FIRST EVERY TIME.

SO MARCEL GARZA.

YES.

KELLY BLOOM.

YES.

YES.

NICOLE LANE.

I'M SORRY.

MY DOGS WERE BARKING.

DID YOU SAY NICOLE? WAIT.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

YES.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

DARRELL.

YES.

ALYSSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

YOU MIGHT ALSO LOOK AT THE K SAID 3,605 ROBIN ROAD.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

TOMMY EIGHTS.

YES.

OKAY.

THIS IS POSTPONE TILL APRIL 11TH.

LET'S SEE YOU THEN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

MOVING ON NEXT CASE.

[E-3 C15-2022-0022 Claudia De La Vega for Luis Jauregui 4901 Mirador Drive]

SO ITEM E THREE, C 15 20 22 0 0 2 TO CLAUDIA DELLA VEGA FOR LEWIS.

I AM NOT GOING TO BUTCHER THAT LAST NAME.

IT'S ACTUALLY FRANK FLINT IS, OH YEAH.

IT WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY GOOD FRIEND, LOUIS SO UNRELIABLE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, MADAM CHAIR FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS FRANK AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY DEAR FRIEND WITH .

UM, AND WE'RE SPEAKING ON THIS PROPERTY, 49 0 1 MINUTE OR DRIVE.

AND JUST AS AN ASIDE, I USED TO SIT THERE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND I SEE MELISSA.

I SEE, I SEE THE PONYTAILS OF THIS YOUNG LADIES HERE.

I WAS SITTING BACK THERE.

HAVEN'T BEEN, I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK IN A COUPLE OF DECADES, I GUESS.

AND THAT WAS WHAT DID THEY CALL IT? THAT WAS I WASN'T REMEMBERING OTHER THINGS THAT YOU GUYS, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL ARE ASKING AND I COMMEND YOU ALL FOR, FOR VOLUNTEERING.

IT'S CERTAINLY A NECESSITY, ESPECIALLY NOWADAYS THAT SAID, WHEN MY FRIEND VISITED WITH ME ON THIS PROJECT, UH, UH, SAW IT AND I FIGURED THIS WAS A POSTER CHILD FOR A VARIANCE.

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IT'S A PROPERTY THAT BASICALLY HAS THREE JURISDICTIONS.

HALF OF IT IS IN TRAVIS COUNTY.

AND HALF OF IT IS IN AUSTIN.

AND THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN RULES.

THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION AND TRAVIS COUNTY, UH, ARE IN LINE.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS NOT.

AND THIS IS FOR A REQUEST FOR A, UH, A FRONT LINE FRONT BUILDING SETBACK.

THE CITY REQUIRES 40 FEET.

TRAVIS COUNTY REQUIRES 30 FEET AND THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION REQUIRES 30 FEET.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS KEEP IT IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU WILL FIND LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, BUT ALSO FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, I WILL GO THROUGH THE, UM, THROUGH THE POWERPOINT IF YOU WISH, BUT IT'S SUCH A SIMPLE CASE.

UH, I DON'T HAVE A CLICKER.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THIS.

IS THERE A CLICKER OR DO YOU GUYS DO IT YOURSELVES? NEXT SLIDE WHEN YOU'RE READY AND SHOW HIM THAT MOVING FORWARD.

THERE'S IS THERE, THERE YOU SEE, YOU SEE THE LOT, THE BLUE LINE THAT GOES AT AN ANGLE IS THAT DIVISION ALSO YOU'LL SEE THE COUNTER LINES OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THE PHYSICAL GEOGRAPHICAL ISSUES THAT YOU FIND WITH THIS PROPERTY ARE INTENSE.

YOU CAN JUST SEE THAT IF YOU GET CLOSER TO THE 40 FEET, WHICH THE CITY MANDATES, YOU'RE GOING TO START GETTING INTO THAT RAVINE.

NEXT SLIDE HERE.

YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN.

YOU SEE THE DASH LINE THAT DIVIDES THE PROPERTY.

NEXT SLIDE HERE.

YOU SEE WHAT WE USED TO CALL A SPOT ZONING BACK IN THE EIGHTIES, THE CITY TOOK OVER THIS PROPERTY OR THIS PIECE OF LAND, AND IT'S JUST A LITTLE INDENTION INTO THE SUBDIVISION IN AN AFFECTED THIS PARTICULAR LOT IN WAYS THAT WE'RE NOW HAVING TO DEAL WITH.

UH, PARDON ME, MR. CHAIR.

MADAM CHAIR.

CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YEAH, LET'S LET'S GO AHEAD AND FLIP BACK TO THE, UH, I WAS ACCEPTED BY THE WAY.

I'LL LIVE IN HELP YOU WITH THE FINDERS, MELISSA.

IT WAS A VERY GOOD PACKET.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

IT WAS A VERY GOOD PACKET AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I KNOW I WAS, WHEN, AFTER I HEARD YOU WERE GOING TO BE HERE, I WAS NERVOUS.

CAUSE I WAS LIKE, OH, THERE'S SOMEONE WHO DID IT FOR 15 YEARS.

I'M REALLY NEW AT THIS.

AND IT'S EVEN WORSE.

NOW.

I'M LIKE HYBRID.

YOU'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB.

I WAS KIND OF HOPING TO SAY HELLO TO THE CAT.

THE CAT AT THE VERY BEGINNING HAD ME MESMERIZED.

THE JACI THE WAY HE WAS STARING INTO THE CAMERA.

THAT WAS MESMERIZED WITHOUT CAT.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE MY DOGS YES.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

DID Y'ALL DO SETBACK AVERAGING? CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE OTHER HOUSES ARE AT 30 FEET.

I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS AT ALL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL, UNFORTUNATELY THE REASON WE FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS IN THE AUSTIN JURISDICTION IS WHEN WE WENT TO GO APPLY.

WELL, WHEN MY FRIEND WENT TO GO APPLY TO US AND ENERGY FOR A TEMPORARY, UH, ELECTRICAL METER OUT THERE FOR CONSTRUCTION THAT'S WHEN HE WAS TOLD THAT HE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING IF THEY HAD LOOKED AT THE OTHER PROPERTIES AND DONE SETBACK, AVERAGING OF OTHER PROPERTIES ON THAT STREET.

CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALL AT 30.

YES THEY ARE.

AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THEY GOT THE VERDE.

YEAH.

UM, BUT IF THEY'RE AVERAGE, THEN ANYWAYS, NEVERMIND.

THERE'S THE PUPPY.

SO BACK IN THE DAY WE CAN, WE CAN SHOW OUR BETS.

YOU GUYS HAVE AN ADVANTAGE.

YOUR FINDINGS ARE IN THE PRESENTATION.

FRANK.

I'M SORRY.

WHAT, WHAT PAGE ARE YOUR FINDINGS ON THE PRESENTATION? ARE THEY SCARED OF? HERE WE GO.

FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A SECOND FOR THAT, BROOKE.

SECOND, SECOND.

OKAY.

LET'S START THERE.

OKAY.

SORRY.

SO I HAVE LIKE THREE SCREENS GOING ON HERE.

SO WHEN I TURN MY HEAD, I'M LOOKING AT A SCREEN.

UM, CAUSE I CAN'T SEEM TO KEEP THE AGENDA OPEN AND HAVE BACKUP OPEN.

SO I HAVE TO SPLIT THEM.

SORRY.

I GO BACK AND FORTH.

OKAY.

WELL I KNOW WHEN I TURNED MY HEAD, SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK THAT I'M NOT PAYING ATTENTION, BUT I AM UM, SORRY, ONE SEC BY SHARON BOARD MEMBER PUT, UH, IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE TYPICALLY DONE WITH THESE SORTS OF THINGS.

DO WE WANT TO TIE THAT

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TO THE SITE PLAN THAT IS ATTACHED IN THEIR PRESENTATION IS PAGE 11, READY FOR FINDINGS READY WHEN YOU ARE.

SO ANY REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO THE PROPERTY DO NOT ALLOW FOR A REASONABLE USE AS THE LOT IS SPLIT BETWEEN THE, UH, AUSTIN'S YEARS TO FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION AND THE ADJ AND IN TRAVIS COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE HOMEOWNERS GUIDELINES.

UH, SO THERE ARE, ARE MULTIPLE REQUIREMENTS AND TWO ARE IN ALIGNMENT AND ONE IS ONE IS NOT.

AND SO THAT, THAT IS ALONG WITH THE OTHER HOUSES THAT YOU CAN'T, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SIT BACK AVERAGE AND RR, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ALIGN THAT WITH THE REST OF THE HOMES IN THE SUBDIVISION, SORRY, I JUST DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD AVERAGE.

I DON'T THINK YOU COULD.

CAN YOU SEPARATE AVERAGING IN RR? UM, THE HARDSHIP FOR WHICH THE VARIANCE IS REQUESTED, DID YOU NEED TO THE PROPERTY AS ALL THE OTHER HOUSES DON'T HAVE THE JURISDICTIONAL SPLIT BETWEEN THEM? THE R-CHOP IS NOT GENERALLY AREA OF WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE OF THE JURISDICTIONAL SPLIT, UM, THAT GIVES YOU THE CONFLICTING RULES AND THE VARIOUS WILL NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

JASON, THE PROPERTY WILL NOT IMPAIR THE USE OF THE ADJACENT CONFORMING PROPERTY AND WILL NOT IMPAIR THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONING OF THE REGULATIONS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AS THE SURROUNDING HOMES ALL FOLLOW THE HOMEOWNERS, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION GUIDELINES, AND ALL HAVE THE SAME SETBACK.

AND I'D LIKE TO TIE THAT TO THE SIDE PLAN AND THEN STARTING THE PRESENTATION PACKET.

PACKET.

SORRY.

I'M ON PAGE 11, PAGE 11.

THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AGAIN, THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE MADE BY VICE CHAR HAWTHORN SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BAILEY, UH, TIED TO THE SITE PLAN SHOWN IN ADVANCED PACKET.

ONE ON PAGE 11.

LET'S CALL THE ROLL.

MARCEL GARZA.

YES.

KELLER BERLIN.

YES.

SORRY.

THERE'S A MUTE DELAY.

YES.

JELLY'S.

CAT'S GOING TO VOTE NEXT FOR FRANK NICOLE LANE.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

DARRELL PRUITT.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

AND TOMMY AIDES.

YES.

OKAY.

YOUR EMOTION OR SORRY, YOUR VARIANCE IS GRANTED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL STAY SAFE UP THERE, GIRLS.

IT WAS JUST THE PONYTAILS.

GOOD.

SEEN Y'ALL TAKE CARE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

[E-4 C15-2022-0024 Michael Linehan for Christian Merritt 2206 South 3rd Street]

OKAY, MOVING ON.

NEXT ITEM WILL BE ITEM FOUR, C 15 20 22 0 0 2 FOR MICHAEL LENAHAN FOR CHRISTIAN MERIT TO 2 0 6 SOUTH THIRD STREET.

IT WAS JUST STEP IN HERE.

HELLO, I'M MIKE LENAHAN WITH LSI REPRESENTING CHRISTIAN AND KATE MERIT.

UM, AT 2206 SOUTH THIRD.

CHRISTIAN CATER ALSO HERE AT AVAILABLE COMMENT.

YES, SIR.

UM, WE ARE APPLYING FOR A VARIANCE FOR RELIEF FROM, UH, CODE SECTION 25 TO 4 9 2 D MINIMUM LOT WIDTH.

UH, THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT WAS SUBDIVIDED AS A PART OF, UM, UH, SORRY.

UH, THE JAMES D BOLDEN SOUTH EDITION.

UM, AND, UH, IT WAS SUBDIVIDED IN 1893.

UM, THIS LOT ALSO RECEIVED ATLANTA STATUS DETERMINATION, UH, IN 2003, UH, AND IS CURRENTLY WAS PLANTED OR NOT STARTING, UM, RECEIVED A SENTENCE OUT

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OF DISCRIMINATION, BUT IT WAS SUBDIVIDED OUT A LOT WITH 43 FEET.

UH, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, UH, FOR SF THREE IS, UM, 50 FEET.

AND SO WITHOUT A BOARD OF JUSTIN'S VARIANTS, WE ARE UNABLE TO DEVELOP ON THIS LAND.

UH, THE CURRENT USE OF LAND IS A DEVELOPED SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL WITH A, UM, ACCESSORY USE STRUCTURE.

UH, AND THE PROPOSED USE IS ALSO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH A ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

UM, THE CURRENT PROPOSED DESIGN, UH, IS COMPLIANT WITH CURRENT REGULATIONS AND SUBCHAPTER F UM, DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THIS MAP SHOWS, UH, BOTH THE BOLDEN SOUTH EXTENSION SUBDIVISION, AS WELL AS THE BOW CAM SUBDIVISION AND SHOWS FOUR OTHER LOTS IN IMMEDIATE VICINITY, UH, THAT, UH, HAVE THE SAME ISSUE OF NOT BEING COMPLIANT WITH MINIMUM LOT WIDTH AND ARE ALSO ZONED SF THREE.

UH, EACH OF THE LOTS THAT ARE IN GREEN, UH, 2207 SOUTH THIRD STREET, UH, 703 AND SONO FIVE FLETCHER STREET AND 2,303 SOUTH THIRD STREET ALL, UH, HAD TO COME THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND DID RE UH, SUCCESSFULLY RECEIVE A VARIANCE FOR THIS SAME CONDITION.

UM, WE ALSO, IF YOU'D GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THE SHOWS, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY CONDITIONS ON THE SURVEY, UH, SHOWING THE FRONT LOT WITH THAT 43.02 FEET.

UM, AND IF YOU'LL CONTINUE ON, THIS IS JUST OUR PROPOSED DESIGN SHOWING THAT WE'RE, UH, MEETING THE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE NOT GOING ANYTHING OF GARGANTUAN SCALE.

UH, IF YOU CONTINUE ON WITH THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, SORRY, A COUPLE MORE SLIDES DOWN.

JUST WANT TO SHOW THE FRONT ELEVATION THE SHOW.

UM, THIS IS A, UH, GABLED STRUCTURE, UM, NOTHING GARGANTUAN AND TRYING TO FIT WITHIN THE, UH, CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THIS IS ALSO, UH, SUPPORTED BY, UM, THE BOLDEN CREEK ZONING COMMITTEE.

UH, THE OWNER DID REACH OUT TO THEM AND THEY DID SUPPORT THIS AS WELL.

AND THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR BACKUP PACKET AS WELL.

UM, AND SO I WILL STOP THERE FOR QUESTIONS.

AND IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES JUST SHOWS THE REMAINDER OF THE, UH, THE PERMIT PACKAGE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? NOPE.

OKAY.

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LETTER FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THE OWNERS ARE A CURRENT RESIDENTS OF THE BOLDEN CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, WELL LIKE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BECAUSE ALL THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS THE LAW WITH NOTHING ABOUT THE DESIGN.

THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY OTHER PARENTS IS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT, A COUPLE OF OPPOSITION, BUT IT WAS MINIMAL.

UH, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO, UH, THAT POINT FOR FAR? YES.

LIMITATION WITH THE POINT FOR YES.

LIMITATION.

SO FINDINGS, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY MORE COMMENTS? I'LL DO FINDINGS, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, ANYONE.

CHAD, DID YOU, WAS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? NO.

DID YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES, DIDN'T I DID I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? WAS IT NOW? YES, I'M PRETTY SURE I DID, BUT IF I DIDN'T CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S RIGHT.

FUNDINGS REASONABLE USE PROPERTIES AS A THREE SUBDIVIDED IN 1893 AND RECEIVED LAND STATUS IN 2003, IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH AN OLDER HOME.

THE PROPOSED USE IS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

UM, THE ONLY BARRIERS ARE ASKING FOR AS LAW WITH, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY OTHER VARIANCES ON THE PROPERTY.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS PLOTTED IN 1893 WITH 43 FEET IN WIDTH.

SO, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER LOTS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION THAT ARE THE SAME.

UM, LET'S SEE.

IT'S NOT GENERAL TO THE AREA, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES BECAUSE MOST ADJACENT LOTS HAVE WITH GREATER THAN 50 FEET, A CHARACTER THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH A, I THINK A BACK STRUCTURE, WHICH IS PRETTY COMMON IN THAT AREA.

AND THERE'S NO PARKING AND LET'S SEE.

AND SO IT WILL FIT WITHIN THE CURRENT CODE AND DESIGN AND, AND IS NOT OUT OF SCALE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

AND THE CONDITION OF THE 0.4 TO ONE.

YES.

YEAH.

WITH THE MOTION IS THE CONDITION OF 0.4, IF THEY ARE OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I

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THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION OF 0.4, EVERY ARE A LIMITATION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER BAILEY SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR HAWTHORNE.

UM, LET'S VOTE.

TOMMY EIGHTS.

YES.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

DARRYL PRUITT.

YES.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

YES.

NICOLE WADE.

KELLY BLOOM.

YES.

COOL.

THAT WAS FAST AND MARCEL GARZA.

YES.

OKAY.

YOU'RE MO ARE VARIANCES GRANTED.

OKAY.

MOVING ON.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PREVIOUS POSTPONEMENTS, UH, TO MAKE THE BOARD OF WHERE WOULD YOU HAVE AN APPLICANT WHO IS IN EUROPE WHERE IT'S 12, 13:00 AM REQUESTING.

IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO MOVE THEIR HEARING TO THE FRONT.

THIS IS FOR ITEM F FOR IF SOMEONE WAS OPEN TO MAKING A MOTION, WE CAN DO THAT TOO, TO CHANGE THE AGENDA.

TH SO THEY WANT US TO HEAR THAT NOW, BUT YOU'RE SETTING OKAY.

ALL MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO, SO WE HAVE APPROVED A VARIANCE AT THIS LOT TWICE NOW, AND NOW THIS IS A DIFFERENT VARIANCE REQUESTS THAN THE ONE THAT WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

NO, IT'S THE EXACT SAME ONE.

IT'S JUST EXPIRED TWICE ALREADY.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A DIFFERENT ONE BECAUSE BEFORE THIS WAS A SINGLE LOT, NOW THEY'RE SUBDIVIDING IT INTO TWO LOTS AND PUTTING FOUR STRUCTURES AS OPPOSED TO TWO.

OH, IT'S TWO SEPARATE BLOCKS.

IT'S TWO SEPARATE LIPS, BUT I KNOW NOW IT IS, BUT IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY, ORIGINALLY IT WAS ONE LOT THAT THEY WERE PUTTING TWO HOUSES IN TWO SINGLE STORY GARAGES ON, AND NOW THEY'RE SUBDIVIDING IT INTO TWO LOTS MAKING ONE, A FLAG, LOT, PUTTING TWO ON EACH ONE WITH X, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WELL, INCLUDING THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, THEY'RE PROPOSING FOUR UNITS AS OPPOSED TO TWO.

OKAY.

WELL, BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, SINCE WE DO HAVE THE MOTION OUT THERE, AND I THINK WE CAN DO THIS BY A NOD OF APPROVAL, UH, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO HEARING THIS CASE NOW? OKAY.

AND WE'LL JUST MARK THAT AS UNANIMOUS THEN.

SORRY, BUT AUSTIN ENERGY.

DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? DIDN'T APPROVE.

DIDN'T GRANT APPROVAL.

THEY CAME BACK WITH THE SECOND LETTER OF, I MISSED THAT.

THANKS.

[F-4 C15-2022-0010 Chris Paladino 4013 Clawson Road]

OKAY.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR ITEM F FOR MY ETX TIME, GUYS.

UH, SEE YOU 15 20, 22 0 0 1 0.

THIS IS CHRIS 4 0 1 3 CLAWSON ROAD.

UM, MR. PELLEGRINO, JUST ONE SECOND.

WHILE WE GET YOUR PRESENTATION PULLED UP, CTM.

SHE'LL LIKE, JESUS, ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU GET TO HAVE ALL THE FUN? I MEAN, I KNOW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES DRIVE, BUT IT'S ONLY DRY IF YOU LET IT BE ALL RIGHT.

AND MR. PALLADINO, IF YOU'RE WATCHING ONLINE, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A 32ND DELAY BETWEEN WHAT YOU SAY.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

I'M NOT LAUNCHING, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INTERNET BANDWIDTH WHERE I'M AT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR MOVING ME UP.

THE ONLY REASON I'M HAVING TO CALL HIM FROM EUROPE IS BECAUSE I WAS POSTPONED LAST TIME BECAUSE HAD INTRODUCED DENIAL,

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WHICH THEY THEN ADMITTED TO ME, THEY MADE A MISTAKE WAS I HADN'T EVEN LOOKED AT MY FILE.

SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO THERE.

I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, I HEARD SOME OF THE EARLIER CONVERSATION.

NO, THERE'S NOTHING DIFFERENT.

THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME VARIANCE APPLICATION.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU COMPARE MY THREE APPLICATIONS, THEY ARE WORD FOR WORD.

THE SAME ALLEGED WAS CHANGED.

THE DATES ON THEM.

I'M SIMPLY TRYING TO RENEW A VARIANCE THAT HAS NOW EXPIRED FOR THE SECOND TIME BECAUSE OF ONGOING DELAYS WITH THE CITY IN THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

UM, I, UH, ACTUALLY GOT THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS AND WAS APPROVED AND THEN, UH, TOLD THAT I COULDN'T FINALIZE IT WITHOUT KNOCKING DOWN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE FOR US, BUT I ALREADY HAVE TENANTS IN THERE UNTIL THE SUMMER.

SO, UM, COULDN'T DO IT IN TIME.

I'VE EXPIRED.

I HAVE TO START OVER, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT AGAIN, I'D BE HAPPY TO, IT IS AN EXISTING.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRST SLIDE, IT'S AN EXISTING 50 FOOT WIDE BY 350 FOOT DEEP LOT.

UM, IT'S IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE, THE LARGER LOT, JUST TO THE NORTH OF MINE, SINCE I GOT THE ORIGINAL VARIANCE APPROVED WAY BACK IN 2018 HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN REZONED AS A FIVES.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN THIS TIME, BUT IN MY ORIGINAL APPLICATION, OVER 85% OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT ORANGE AREA SIGNED OFF ON IT, SUPPORTING MY VARIANCE APPLICATION.

AND, UH, ONLY ONE WAS OPPOSED THE OTHERS, I COULDN'T FIND.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST AERIAL PHOTO OF THE LAND FLIGHT.

AFTER THAT, UM, SHOWS YOU A SURVEY OF A LOT, UH, SLIDE AFTER THAT SHOWS YOU A RED LINE, HOW IT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE SUBDIVIDED, WHICH IS WHY I NEED THE VARIANCE FOR THE THESE FRONT LOCK TO BE 35 FOOT WIDE.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FLAG LOCKS GOING TO THE BACK.

AND AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING I PROPOSED WAY BACK IN 2018 AND WAS APPROVED.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

UM, HE, THEN, THEN THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES ARE JUST PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY.

AND IF YOU WANT TO JUMP DOWN TO SLIDE 12 OF 13, YOU'LL SEE THE LAST BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, A DECISION SEAT FROM 2020, WHICH RENEWED THE VARIANTS.

SO AGAIN, THE ONLY REASON I'M HERE FOR, FOR YOU TONIGHT IS BECAUSE YET AGAIN, IF IT'S EXPIRED AND I HAVE TO RENEW IT FOR A THIRD TIME.

SO ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT WERE ON THEIR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU? ABSOLUTELY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IN ANY OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT CAME UP, THAT I WAS PROPOSING TO BUILD TWO PRIMARIES AND TWO SECONDARY UNITS, I'M PROPOSING TO BUILD NOTHING.

I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO REDRAW THE LINES ON THE LAND.

WHAT WE'LL BUILD WILL BE DETERMINED BY A PERMIT PROCESS.

UH, SO YEAH, BUT I DON'T CARE LEAVE THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.

OKAY.

I NOT PROPOSING TO BUILD ANYTHING YET.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? NOPE.

OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS, EMOTION.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE SAME CONDITIONS AS PREVIOUS TO SEE 15 20 20 DASH 0 0 1 6.

UM, WHICH THE DECISION SHE WAS FROM MAY 11TH, 2020, NO, JUNE 8TH, 20, 20.

SORRY.

SO I WANT YOU TO USE THE SAME FINDINGS AND THE SAME CONDITIONS EXACTLY AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

UM, THOSE CONDITIONS WERE THAT THE GARAGE ON BOTH UNITS STAY AS ONE STORY WITH NO HABITABLE SPACE ABOVE AND THAT THE SUBDIVISION BE COMPLIANT WITH THE SOUTH LAMAR FLOOD MITIGATION PLAN, 10% CAPTURE, EVEN THOUGH SINGLE-FAMILY USES PROPOSED, PROPOSED, THIS WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED.

AND THAT A SCREENED AREA FOR ALL TRASH RECEPTACLES BEHIND THE PROPERTY LINE BE PLANNED FOR AT SUBDIVISION AND ADDED AT CONSTRUCTION.

I'LL SECOND MADAM CHAIR, YOU WITH ME USING THE SAME EXACT FINDINGS.

I'M 100%.

OKAY.

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST TIME.

UM, YEAH, I JUST REMEMBER THIS CASE AND I REMEMBER THE BACKUP AND

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THE PEOPLE WHO HAD CONCERNS.

SO YEAH, WHEN HE IS THE EXACT SAME FINDINGS, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

YES, SIR.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THOUGH.

SO, SO THE, THE SHEET WE HAVE SAYS THE VARIANCES REQUESTED TO DO, YOU KNOW, TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME, BUT THEN IT SAYS IN ORDER TO, AND AS I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT, HE'S NOT ASKING FOR ANY OF THAT AT THIS POINT.

SO WHAT WE'RE AVOIDING TO BE APPROVING IS A VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM LOT WITH, FOR BOTH OF THOSE PROPOSED SUBDIVIDED LOTS, AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO WHY OR ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT.

WELL, I MEAN, HE HAS A LAYOUT PLAN IN HIS PACKET THAT IS THE SAME LAYOUT PLAN.

AND THERE WERE LETTERS IN THE PREVIOUS VARIANCE APPROVAL OF CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE, UM, FLOODING, UM, PARTICULARLY THE PROPERTY BEHIND IT.

UM, AS WELL, HAVE YOU BEEN ON CLAWSON? OH YEAH, IT'S GOT THAT.

YOU KNOW, AND SO, AND IT'S PRETTY NARROW ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT THE TRASH ENDING UP IN THE STREET AND THEY WANTED, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE CONDITIONS THAT WERE DUE TO INPUT.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT KEEPING THEM THERE BECAUSE HE DOES INCLUDE THE HOUSE LAYOUTS IN HIS PACKET.

AND IT IS A PRE, THIS WAS APPROVED TWICE AND IT'S BEEN EXPIRED TWICE AND WE'VE ALWAYS ATTACHED THESE CONDITIONS BECAUSE OF CONCERNS.

AND I GUESS, UM, CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE NEWER BOARD MEMBERS THAT DIDN'T HEAR THIS THE FIRST TIME THERE IS THE PREVIOUS BACKUP, YOU KNOW, JUST GO BACK TO THE TWO DATES ON THE 18TH IN 2018 AND IN 2020.

UM, AND IT WAS KIND OF LATE FOR THAT, BUT, BUT IT IS, IT'S JUST GIVING THEM MORE TIME TO BUILD THIS UNDER THE CURRENT VARIANCE WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS UM, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

THAT'S A KEY, I KNOW WE WERE GOING TO TIE THIS TO THE, UH, C 15 20 20 0 0 1 6, BUT I THINKING MIGHT BE BETTER TO TIE UP YOUR ORIGINAL ONE, THE YEAH, THE 20 17 0 0 6 5.

THAT'S FINE.

I DIDN'T GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT CASE, I JUST SAW THE CONDITIONS IN THIS CASE ONE MOMENT AND THERE COULD BE ISSUES BECAUSE NOW HE'S SAYING THAT WHATEVER'S ON THE PAPER MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN TIE IT TO ANYTHING BECAUSE, UM, HOW ABOUT WE JUST MAKE IT WITH THE EXACT SAME CONDITIONS THAT ARE LISTED FROM YES, BUT, BUT HE SAYING THAT, UM, I GUESS THE DESIGN IS, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE NOT WHAT'S THERE.

YEAH, THAT WAS MY POINT.

DOES THAT, I DIDN'T, I THINK HE SAID SOMETHING DIFFERENT AT THIS POINT.

NOW IT'S THE SAME PLANS AND THAT HE'S USING BECAUSE HE'S USING THE SAME PACKET.

NO, NO.

HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM THAT HE'S SEEKING TO PUT TWO HOUSES IN TWO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE VARIANT STATES THAT IT IS FOR.

AND SO IT APPEARS TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT'S BEING PLANNED NOW.

AND ACTUALLY 15 SHOWS FOUR UNITS ON THAT PROPERTY.

IF I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU PLEASE.

UM, THAT CONCERN, MY, THIS ORIGINAL PACKET WAS PUT TOGETHER FOR ME BACK IN 2018, BY AN ARCHITECT, WILLIAM HODGE.

AND IN PUTTING THE PACKAGE TOGETHER, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THINGS WE COULD POSSIBLY DO.

HE DREW THOSE FOUR BUILDINGS IN AND WE HAD IT IN THE PACKET, BUT IT REALLY HAD NOT.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

WILL WE EVENTUALLY BUILD FOUR HOUSES PROBABLY, BUT WHERE THEY'LL BE LOCATED, HOW THEY'LL BE DONE, HOW WE GOT A GARAGE CONFUSED AND ALL OF THIS EARLY ON, WASN'T AN ISSUE I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THE CONDITIONS BECAUSE THERE, YOU KNOW, THE GARAGE WAS CONDITIONED.

FOR EXAMPLE, I'M GONNA APPLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A GARAGE WHERE WE'RE JUST APPLYING TO SPLIT THE LOT INTO TWO.

SO IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE, LEAVE CONDITIONS, THAT'S NO PROBLEM WITH ME.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THE CONDITIONS AND I'D LIKE TO PUT THE CONDITION THAT YOU'RE LIMITED TO 0.4 FIR

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NO PROBLEM.

OKAY.

SO THAT IS, THAT IS MY MOTION.

UH, AND DID I HAVE THE SECOND, THE SECOND? YEAH, THE PRO BAILING SECONDARY.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

UH, AND DID, DID YOU READ THE FINDINGS ALREADY OR DO YOU JUST, WE, CAN WE SAY, IT'S GOING TO RELY ON THE EXACT SAME FINDINGS AS BEFORE? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICK.

SO WHICH, WHICH ONE ARE WE REFERENCING SEE? 15, 20, 20, OR SEE, 15, 20 17.

I MEAN, THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHICH ONE I READ THE 20, 20 ONES.

I DIDN'T READ THE OTHER MATTER.

THANK YOU.

I COULD GO BACK AND READ THEM 50.

YOU WANT ME TO STOP? NO, BUT LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE MENTIONED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THE ADVANCED PACKET OR THAT IT'S AN ITEM OR SORRY.

F FOUR, PAGE 10 IS THE PREVIOUS 2020 DECISION.

SO THE THING, SORRY, PAGE 10 AND 11 AND THE FINDINGS.

AREN'T 11.

ALL RIGHT.

SO MOTION TO APPROVE.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE VOTE.

CHAIR.

COHEN, ERICA LOPEZ, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

IT'S THE, THE ADVANCED PACKET F 10.

UM, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE POINT FOR FAR, RIGHT? UM, WHAT'S THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE NOT IN THERE ORIGINALLY? NO, IT WAS NOT.

OKAY.

NO, IT'S NOT.

I THINK WE, WE CAUGHT ON TO THAT ONE ON THE SMALLER LOT WHERE, UM, PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR HIM TO BUILD THE 2300 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.

GOTCHA.

HE'S RIGHT.

HE HAS A BIG, IT'S A HUGE LOT, BUT HE IS SUBDIVIDING IT INTO TWO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE ORIGINAL FINDINGS, UH, THAT ARE FOUND ON IN THE APPEARANCE PACKET ON PAGE 10 AND 11 WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITION OF FAR LIMITED 2.4 G TOMMY EIGHTS.

YES.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

DARRYL PRUITT.

YES.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

YES.

NICOLE WADE.

YES.

KELLY BLOOM.

YES.

AND MARCEL GARZA.

YES.

OH, GEEZ.

YOUR VARIANCES.

GRANTED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENT.

OKAY.

MOVING ON OR GOING BACK, THAT WAS,

[F-1 C15-2021-0097 Nathan Hobbs for Gary J. Hobbs 4315 Avenue A]

AND BACK TO F ONE CFF TEAM, 20 21 0 0 9 7.

NATHAN HOPS FOR GARY J. HOBBS 4, 3, 1 5 AVENUE EIGHT.

UH, ELAINE, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION FROM THE APP CAN JUST APPLY FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS SO YOU CAN'T SEE THE ENTIRE EMPTY CHAMBER.

THERE'S NO ONE HERE BUT US.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE OTHER CASES, BUT, UM, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING OF YET.

UM, LIKE I STATED EARLIER, THE LAST I HEARD FROM HIM WAS HE GOT AN APPROVAL, THE LAND STATUS, AND WAS WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM RESIDENTIAL OR TO CONNECT WITH RESIDENTIAL ON WHAT VARIANCES, IF ANY, NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE POSTPONED THIS ALREADY? DO YOU HAVE ACCOUNT? WELL, WE POSTPONED IT.

LET'S SEE.

OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, JANUARY, POSTPONED TO FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY POSTPONE TO MARCH, JANUARY.

IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE WE HAD TO CANCEL THAT MEANING.

OKAY.

YEAH.

HE, HE PRESENTED IN OUR TOBAR I BELIEVE IS THAT RIGHT? AND, AND HE WAS SYSTEM INFORMATION.

AND SO HE NEEDS THE TIME BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY A HARDER CASE THAN IT LOOKS OKAY.

IS THAT A MOTION? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE HIM, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL MAY.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE MAY UNLESS THERE'S MAY 11TH.

I THINK IT'S MAY 11TH.

NO, SORRY.

MAY 9TH.

MAY 9TH.

[02:00:04]

MAY NOT.

SORRY.

YOU SECOND.

S NICOLE, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT I WILL BE OUT FOR A SURGICAL PROCEDURE ON THE NINTH.

AND SO WE ARE POSTPONING UNTIL MAY 9TH.

UM, SHE NEEDS AN ALTERNATE.

YES.

AND I ALSO WILL NOT BE HERE.

I WILL BE, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S DOWN TO ANYONE ELSE.

DO YOU REMEMBER JUST REMEMBER THAT THESE FOLKS CAN'T DO ANYTHING ONCE THEY APPLY FOR A VARIANCE, THEY CAN'T BILL.

THEY CAN'T DEMISE POSTPONED UNTIL JUNE 13TH.

THEN I'M GOING TO AMEND MY MOTION TILL JUNE 13TH, JUNE 13.

AND WHO WAS THE SECOND ONE? THAT WAS HER A SECOND ON THAT, THAT GIVES HIM PLENTY OF TIME.

UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

SO THERE'S A LETTER OR AN EMAIL IN THE PACKET THAT SAYS HE DOESN'T NEED THE LOT SARS VARIANTS ANYMORE.

SO THE COMPLEXITIES WE'RE ANTICIPATING ARE ENTIRELY RELATED TO THE IMPROVEMENT VALUE QUESTION AND THE SETBACK QUESTION.

WELL, OKAY.

BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM HIS EMAIL THAT HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC VARIANCES HE MIGHT NEED AT THIS POINT.

SO HE'S GOT AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE AND HE IS PROPOSING TO REMODEL IT.

AND I DON'T THINK HE UNDERSTANDS HOW MUCH HE CAN ALTER IT.

AND SO I THINK HE REALLY NEEDS TO MEET WITH RESIDENTIAL REVIEW BECAUSE FROM WHAT HE HAD IN THE POCKET, THERE'S NO WAY HE'S GOING TO KEEP THAT STRUCTURE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO MEET THAT.

AND SO WHILE ON FACE VALUE, YOU LOOK AT IT AND IT SOUNDS REALLY EASY.

IN FACT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ONE THAT, UNLESS HE DOES THAT HOMEWORK, THEN HE'S GOING TO COME BACK AND COME BACK AND COME BACK.

SO THAT'S, I'D RATHER GIVE HIM THE TIME.

CAUSE I DON'T THINK HE UNDERSTANDS THAT ALSO HE NEEDS TO SHOW UP FOR THESE POSTPONEMENTS.

RIGHT? MR. HOBBS, WATCH THE VIDEO.

YES.

LET'S GO HOBBS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO.

YEAH.

SO INSTEAD OF JUST DOING THIS EVERY MONTH, WHEN HE HASN'T MET WITH THEM YET, JUST GIVE HIM THE TIME TO DO IT AND THEN HAVE IT BE COMPLETE.

UM, BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS PUSH THIS TO JULY 13TH, IF THAT WOULD MAKE Y'ALL FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.

UH, JUNE IS PROBABLY, YEAH.

JAMES.

OKAY.

I THINK HE, I, I, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT BY THAT, I THINK.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THIS IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO JUNE 13TH, 2022 MADE BY VICE-CHAIR HAWTHORNE, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PUT AND LET'S START IN THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

YES.

NICOLE WADE.

YES.

KELLY BLOOM.

YES.

OUR CELL GARZA.

YES.

TOMMY.

YES.

WITH BAILEY.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

OKAY.

DARRYL PRUITT.

DARRYL.

PRUITT OF DARE.

MISS.

SORRY.

WELL REMEMBER DARRELL DARRELL PUT YES.

THAT'S WHAT I GET FOR GOING OUT OF ORDER.

TRYING TO SPICE UP.

I GOT FANCY.

AND THEN IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH FANCY.

ISN'T IT? NO MORE SPICE.

DO THAT.

NEXT ITEM WOULD BE GO AHEAD AND TAKE A BREAK.

OR DO YOU THINK, WHAT TIME ARE WE AT? SEVEN 40? WHAT HAVE WE GOT LEFT? WE'VE GOT THREE .

OKAY.

UM, JEFF SHARP.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE 15 NOW.

THAT'S I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

NLR MEET BACK AT 7:57 PM.

WE'RE NOW IN RECESS.

THANK YOU.

7 58.

I COULD GET MY VIRTUAL MEMBERS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER CATS, CATS, DOGS.

HI CHILDREN.

CURRENTLY CHAIRMAN GOT TO GO SWIMMING.

I HEARD.

OKAY.

[F-2 C15-2021-0100 Ian Ellis 1003 Kinney Avenue]

UH, ITEM F TWO.

SEE YOU 15 20 21 0 1 0 0.

[02:05:04]

IAN ELLIS, 1003 KENNY AVENUE, MADAM CHAIR.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT GOT POSTPONED DUE TO TWO EXTENSIONS.

SORRY, SORRY.

SORRY.

POSTPONED.

THANK YOU.

TWO, THREE.

WE DIDN'T POSTPONE THAT ONE DAY.

NO, HAVE TO, UH, FIVE OR SIX OR EIGHT.

[F-3 C15-2022-0001 Stephen Hawkins for Morgan & Lydia Mills 3002 Rivercrest Drive]

GOT IT.

OKAY.

SO F THREE, SORRY.

SEE YOU.

15 20 22 0 0 0 1.

THIS IS GOING TO BE EAST STEPHEN HAWKINS FOR MORGAN AND LYNNEA MILLS.

3 0 0 2 RIVER CREST DRIVE.

UM, MR. HAWKINS, ARE YOU ON THE PHONE? COHEN.

THIS IS ERIC ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TECH SUPPORT RIGHT NOW.

OH, OKAY.

UM, LET'S JUST GO IN AND JUMP AROUND IN THE AGENDA.

WHAT ARE Y'ALL SAYING UNTIL WE GET A, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT TECH SUPPORT.

WE CAN'T HEAR ANY CASES.

NO, BUT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF NEW BUSINESS.

ARE WE GOING TO UP NEVERMIND OR IS IT NO, WE'RE GOOD.

SHE'S BACK.

SORRY.

IT WAS PROBABLY BATHROOM OR SOMETHING.

OKAY.

SO BACK TO F THREE, UH, C 15 20 22 0 0 0 1, UH, 3000 TO RIVER CREST DRIVE.

MR. HAWKINS, ARE YOU ON THE PHONE? CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL IF, IF, IF HE'S ON THE PHONE, SORRY, I CHECK TO SEE IF WE HAVE THIS NUMBER.

ELAINE, HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM OR NO, I HAVE NOT.

OTHER THAN WHEN THEY REGISTERED TO SPEAK VIRTUALLY, ALTHOUGH MR. HAWKINS, CAN YOU HEAR US? HE IS ON THE LINE.

DOES HE HAVE TO DO THE STAR SIX THING TO UNMUTE OR CAN YOU UNMUTE HIM? HE DOESN'T NEED IT.

WONDERING IF HE SET HIS PHONE DOWN? I'M RIGHT HERE.

HELLO? OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY, GOOD.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PULL YOUR PRESENTATION UP.

THERE'LL BE ABOUT A 32ND DELAY IF YOU'RE WATCHING ON THE WEB.

SO THAT WORKS OUT.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, IF YOU'RE READY, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

YEAH, WE, WE, WE CAME UH, LAST, LAST MONTH AND, UH, I'LL GET THE PRESENTATION, A SIMILAR ONE.

WE HAVE THAT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ONE DUE TO, UH, THE REQUEST THAT YOU GUYS ASKED FOR, UM, FOR THE SEPTIC.

BUT, UH, BASICALLY, UH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THIS, BUT IT WON'T FOLLOW PRECISELY.

UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FROM THE SPORTY COURT SETBACK TO A 25 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS IN KEEPING WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THE LIKE AUSTIN IS LIKE AUSTIN ZONING.

SO IT HAS THE FORTIES.

UM, AND LET'S SEE, GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THE SLIDES.

AND IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE, YOU CAN, TO THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL PLOT OF THIS WAS 1961.

AND THAT'S WHY THE MAJORITY OF THE HOUSES HAVE A TWENTY-FIVE FOOT SETBACK BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THAT ORIGINAL PLAT.

THIS PROPERTY HAS A AMENDED PLAT.

IT WAS DONE IN 1995.

UM, AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS UPDATED TO, UH, 40 FEET.

BUT, UH, THE PLAT, UH, THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED, REVIEWED AND APPROVED AND SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UM, DOES SHOW A 25 FOOT SETBACK, THE 1995 PLAT.

AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE AND YOU LEFT THE 1961 PLAN.

YOU CAN GO DOWN TO THE NEXT ONE, UM, AS A, MORE OF A ZOOMED IN, AND THEN THE, UH, THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE THE FIRST ORIGINAL CLASS.

THIS IS THE AMENDED PLAT ON THE NEXT ALIVE.

THE ONE THAT WAS DONE IN 1995.

AND IT DOES ALSO SHOW THE 25 FOOT SETBACK.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, THIS HOUSE THAT WE WERE SEEKING A VARIANCE FOR

[02:10:01]

WAS, UH, DESIGNED UNDER THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THIS WAS, UH, ACCURATE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

AND AS, AS I STATED IN THIS MANY PLANS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

UH, THEY, THE SUBDIVISION USING THE TWENTY-FIVE FOOT SETBACK, I THINK 14 OUT OF 24 LOTS HAVE HOMES THAT ARE CLOSER THAN 40 FEET.

UM, TWO OUT OF 24, LOTS ARE VACANT AND SEVEN OUT OF 24 OR 40 FOOT OR MORE, UM, FROM THE, UH, FRONT PROPERTY LINE.

NEXT SLIDE, THERE ARE THREE EXAMPLES.

UM, THE NEXT THREE SLIDES ARE THREE EXAMPLES OF THE, UH, APPROVED SURVEY SURVEYS FROM APPROVED, UH, HOUSES IN THE SUBDIVISION THAT WE ARE KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, ITERATION OF THE DESIGN WAS BASED ON THE PLAN.

LIKE I SAID, UH, WE STAYED IN THAT, UM, SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY REDESIGNING TO GET APPROVED.

WE DID GET APPROVED UNDER THE 20, 40% BACK AS YOU'LL SEE IN AN UPCOMING SLIDE.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE DESIGN INITIAL DESIGN.

IT WAS A 25 FOOT SETBACK.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE SKEPTIC THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.

WE WERE LIMITED WITH WHERE WE COULD PUT THE SEPTIC, UM, BECAUSE OF A DRIVEWAY ON THE ONE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS A, UH, FLOODPLAIN.

SO IT'S, AND IT ALSO HAS A VERY LARGE TREE THAT THERE, UM, THEIR RESTRICTS, UH, LOCATION, UH, THAT WAS SEPTIC.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH.

I'M SORRY.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

WE HAVE, THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED THAT WE DO HAVE APPROVAL FOR.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD, UH, REDUCE, UH, STREET PARKING, UH, GREATLY.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TAKING A LOT OF CARS OFF THE STREETS YOU HAD MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, WHY COULDN'T YOU JUST PARK THEM IN THE DRIVEWAY? WE UNCOVERED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UH, WAS SOUGHT, THEIR INPUT WAS SOUGHT ON THIS AND THEY, THEY PREFERRED TO HAVE THE, UH, THE GARAGE, THE CARS IN THE GARAGE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

JUST GO AHEAD.

YOU ASK THEM TO COVER THE STUFF.

UM, AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE, THE SETBACKS ARE INTENDED TO PROTECT PRIVACY, PROVIDE FOR OPEN SPACE AND AVOID THE AESTHETICS AND SAFETY CONCERNS WITH OVERCROWDING.

UM, SPECIFICALLY THE LA ZONING SETBACK WAS INCREASED FROM THE SF THREE ZONING FOR THE PURPOSE OF DECREASING IMPERVIOUS COVER TO PROTECT THE WATER QUALITY OF LIKE A LAWSON, OUR DRINKING SUPPLY WATER.

UM, THIS WOULD A PROJECT WE'RE PROPOSING WOULD BE BUILT OVER EXISTING INAPPROPRIATE COVER, WHICH IS THE DRIVEWAY.

SO IT ALIGNS WITH THE INTENT OF THE, OF THE SETBACK INCREASE FOR THE SPECIFIC ZONING LA, UM, DOESN'T INCREASE IMPERVIOUS COVER.

WE DO FALL WITHIN THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, UM, IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, YEAH, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME, THE SAME STUFF.

WE KIND OF WENT OVER.

IT, IT TAKES CARS, YOU KNOW, FROM BEING OUT IN THE OPEN, YOU KNOW, AND PUTTING ASIDE THIS, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR, UH, PROPERTY OWNER HAS SIX FAMILY MEMBERS LIVING IN THE HOUSE THAT THE DRIVE AND THE GRANDPARENTS AND HIM AND HIS WIFE NEXT SLIDE.

AND JUST WANT TO SAY WE VALUE TIME CONSIDERATION TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR THAT'S.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.

HELLO? YES, SIR.

I, THAT ENDED UP, I CUT OUT AGAIN.

I SAID, VERY TINY ROAD.

IT'S A VERY, VERY NARROW ROAD.

YES.

AND AS IT IS NOW, THERE'S QUITE A FEW CARS THAT PARKED OUT ON THE STREET.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? YEAH, WE CAN DISCUSS, NOPE.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING QUESTIONS.

A BOARD MEMBER BAILEY.

YES.

WHAT WOULD BE THE DEPTH OF THE GARAGE IF YOU JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE SHOWING IT SIX CARS TOO DEEP.

IF IT'S JUST THE THREE CARS, SINGLE CAR DEPTH, WHAT IS THE SETBACK THEN? WHAT YOU GET IN SETBACK? SO I'M SORRY, RESTATE THAT.

IF WE HAD THREE CARS WIDE AND JUST TOO DEEP, I DON'T THINK WE COULD GO THAT ROUTE AND YOU HAVE THREE CARS WIDE AND TWO CAR DEEP.

YOU HAVE IT FOR SIX CARS.

IF YOU ONLY HAD IT THREE CARS WIDE, WHAT WOULD YOUR SETBACK BE IF YOU CUT OFF STEP BACK OF 10? PROBABLY I WOULD SAY MAYBE 14 FEET FROM WAR FROM THE 25.

SO 30, UH, 40, UH, WE'RE CLOSE TO 40 AT RIGHT.

I MEAN, I WOULD GUESS FOR A CAR, I DON'T KNOW THE PERSONALIZED ANSWER FOR A CAR

[02:15:02]

AND THAT I ACTUALLY MADE MY POINT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BOARD MEMBER BLOOM.

SHE'S PRETTY CUTE WHEN SHE DOES THAT.

SO LAST MONTH WE ASKED, UM, IF THERE WERE ANY NEIGHBORHOOD REGULATIONS THAT REQUIRE YOU TO KEEP THE GAR OR CARS IN AN ENCLOSED SPACE, IS THAT THE CASE? THERE ARE NOT, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THAT'S WHY MY, UH, MY CLIENT AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WENT OUT AND SAW IT ON HIS OWN, UH, TO GET, UH, SIX LETTERS, SEVEN LETTERS THAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MADE IT INTO THE PACKET, BUT WE HAVE A PETITION THAT WAS SIGNED BY 25, UH, OWNERS, UM, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE, UH, UH, IN SUPPORT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'M HAPPY TO SEND THAT IN, EMAILED IT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT MADE IT IN THE PACKAGE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I SHOW HOTLINE.

UH, SO I MEAN, I PULLED IT UP ON THE GOOGLE BECAUSE I DIDN'T PARTICULARLY DRIVE OUT THERE.

IT ACTUALLY SEEMS LIKE THIS MAY NOT BE INCONSISTENT WITH, WITH THE ROADWAY.

I MEAN, THERE ARE SEVERAL GARAGES THAT COME OUT AND IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY, UH, I'M LOOKING AT HARDSHIP HERE, WHAT THEY CAN BUILD WITH THE MINIMAL THAT THEY CAN BUILD TO BE WITHIN CODE.

I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS THE HARDSHIP THAT HAS THEM NEEDING A SIX CAR GARAGE? IT'S THREE CARS, A WIDE AND TWO CARS DEEP THAT IT'S, WHETHER IT'S IN KEEPING OR NOT.

SURE, SURE.

UM, UH, THE HARDSHIP IS THE SIZE OF FAMILIES.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S PROBABLY, UH, THE RESTRICTIONS AND BASED AROUND, UH, THAT THEY NEED SIX INSTEAD OF TWO.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? THREE, UM, I'M UNCERTAIN.

YOU'RE ASKING WHAT THE HARDSHIP IN TO AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN IS THAT THE SEPTIC, THE SEPTIC VIA THE SETBACKS ON THE BACK, THE FLOODPLAIN AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE TREE IN THE BACK JUST EPIC.

WE, WE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT SPREADING IT, MAKING IT WIDER AND SPREADING IT ACROSS THE PROPERTY, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THE, THE DRIVEWAY WOULD BE CUTTING THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND THAT WOULDN'T LEAVE ANY ROOM FOR THE SEPARATE, THE SEPARATE HAD TO BE AS LARGE AS IT WAS TO, UH, TO, UH, IN ORDER TO SERVICE THE HOUSE, SORRY, BOARD MEMBER.

I THINK THE ISSUE, UH, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS WHETHER OR NOT, UH, YOU NEED THIS VARIANCE IN ORDER TO HAVE A REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE BOARD MEMBER BAILING IS GOING.

UM, WHAT IS IT ABOUT SUCH A LARGE GARAGE THAT MAKES IT NECESSARY FOR THIS TO BE REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY? UH, I OPPOSE THE POSTPONEMENT LAST MONTH, CAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING THERE, ANY HARDSHIP, AND I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING NEW TODAY THAT WOULD CHANGE MY MIND.

SO I'M JUST, I'M NOT REAL CLEAR ABOUT THE HARDSHIP.

I'M NOT REAL CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT IS ABOUT THE APPLICATION OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT A REASONABLE USE OF THIS PROPERTY.

SO TH TH JUST THE LIMITING FACTORS OF THIS LITTLE NOTCH IN THE CORNER OVER THERE WAS THAT IT WAS ELIMINATED FACTOR THAT WAS NOT DONE BY MY CLIENT, UH, WHEN IT WAS REPOSTED, UM, FOR WHATEVER REASONS, UM, THIS LITTLE NOTCH WAS CUT OUT OVER HERE.

AND THAT KIND OF ALSO LIMITED QUITE A BIT THE, UH, THE, UH, SEPTIC SYSTEM AND WHERE WE COULD PUT THAT.

UM, IT'S A UNIQUE LAW BECAUSE OF THAT.

IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, NOT A SQUARE LOT, LIKE ABSOLUTELY EVERY OTHER LOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EXCEPT FOR THE NEIGHBORS A LOT.

THAT ALSO INCLUDES THAT, THAT LITTLE AREA, THE HARDSHIP MAY BE THAT, UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A LOT THAT'S ALIGNED WITH THE REST OF THE LOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WAS, IT WAS A CUTOUT AND WERE UNCERTAINTY EXACTLY WHY THAT WAS THERE AND WHEN IT WAS REPLIED, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO IF IT WASN'T REPLANTED, IT WOULD HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK, CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND EVEN THE REPLAT SHOWED 25 FEET IT'S AS APPROVED AND SIGNED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN, GREG GUERNSEY.

UM, YES,

[02:20:01]

IT SHOWS 25 FEET.

AND ON THE APPROVED PLANS, I BELIEVE, UH, UH, ONE OF THE SHEETS IN THE, UH, AND I SUBMITTED A PACKAGE, UM, ALTHOUGH IT IS BACK 40 FEET AND IT DOES HAVE A, UH, SCALABLE, UH, SCALE THAT SHOWS AT 40 FEET, THERE'S ALSO A LINE AT THAT 40 FEET THAT SAYS 25 FOOT FRONT SETBACK.

SO NOW HOW MUCH EFFECT THAT HAS BEEN WITH, NO, I AM EMPATHETIC TO YOUR SITUATION, BUT I CAN COUNT AS WELL.

I CAN COUNT.

AND I AM NOT SEEING NINE VOTES OUT OF 11 FOR YOUR SITUATION, SIR.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF.

QUIET.

OKAY.

SO IF, UM, SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SOME STRONG FEELINGS, UM, THEY OUGHT TO MICAH.

YEAH.

I COULD MAKE A MOTION, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO PASS TO, UM, THEREFORE SOMEBODY ELSE SHOULD MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.

SO I ACTUALLY, IF I COULD GET ONE OF MAYBE THE MORE EXPERIENCED MEMBERS TO EXPLAIN IT TO ME, LIKE I'M FIVE, IF THAT LAST PLAT SHOWS 25 FOOT SETBACK, WHY IS THIS AN ISSUE? BECAUSE THE LA, UH, OVERLAY OF RIGHT REQUIRES 40 FEET, BUT THE LOT SIZE DOES IT EVEN MEET THE LA MINIMUM? I MEAN, SO YOU'RE KIND OF TAKING A PIECE OF IT AND APPLYING IT TO HIM.

AND WHEN YOU PULL UP THE GOOGLE MAP, LITERALLY I THINK EVERY HOUSE, BUT THREE LOOKS LIKE IT'S AT 25 FEET.

I NOTICED THAT AS WELL.

SO YOU, AND IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE ON BOARD.

WAS THERE ANY OPPOSITION, UH, AUTONOMY, ZERO OPPOSITION FROM, I MEAN, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IS IT A HARDSHIP, I MEAN, CONFLICTING CODE, UM, CONFLICTING CODE PROVISIONS APPLIED.

UM, IF HIS SECOND PLOT, DIDN'T SAY 25 FEET, I MEAN THE FIRST PLOT, HE WOULD BE EXEMPT.

IT'S THE SECOND PLAT HAVING THE 25 FEET THAT, THAT GIVES ME, UM, I MEAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW HE GOT HERE BY THAT, BY JUST SIMPLY THAT, BUT HE PROBABLY DIDN'T DO HIMSELF A FAVOR BY BENDING HIS DRAWING AND SHOWING THAT IT FLAT OUT COULD WORK AT 20, AT 40 FEET.

GOT IT, GOT IT.

GOT IT.

YEAH.

I GOT HIM A PERMIT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT ALSO SHOWED THAT, UM, YEAH.

WHAT DARYL SAID, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IF NOBODY ELSE'S.

CAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY BY BOARD MEMBER BAILEY SECONDARY BY BOARD MEMBER.

PUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE VOTE THAT WAY.

WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA ON THE NUMBERS.

TOMMY EIGHTS.

YES.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO MYSELF, MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YOU CAN JUST COME BACK TO ME TOO.

KNOW, KNOW WHERE I'M AT? THEY'LL PUT YES.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

YES.

NICOLE WADE.

YES.

KELLY BLOOM.

YES THOUGH.

IT IS A VERY TOUGH CASE.

UM, MARCEL GARZA THINKING MATTERS, BUT I'LL HAVE TO STAY.

OKAY.

UH, YEAH.

CAUSE WE'RE WAITING.

WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT A YES BECAUSE, OR, SORRY.

NO, JUST TO BE DIFFERENT VICE CHAIR.

I'LL GO WITH THE NODE JUST BECAUSE I'M EMPATHETIC HAS THAT SECOND PLIGHT SHOWING 25 FEET MAKES, I MEAN, IF YOU HAD DONE YOUR

[02:25:01]

DUE DILIGENCE AND YOU SAW THE 25 FEET ON THE SECOND PLAT, SO IT IS, IT IS A LITTLE MUCH, YES, I AM IN AGREEMENT, BUT I'M, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH WAY I VOTE ON THIS.

YEAH.

THAT WAS, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.

I MEAN, UM, I'M EMPATHETIC OF THE SITUATION, BUT I, YEAH, SORRY.

SIX CAR GARAGE MAKES IT A LITTLE.

WELL, AND ALSO THEY GOT A PERMIT AT 40 FEET.

THEY JUST ADDED ONTO THE GROUND.

THAT WAS FOR ME, WAS THE TIPPING POINT ON THE NOTE.

HE PULLED IT BACK TO GET THE PERMIT AND SHOWED IT.

SO FOR THAT KIND OF, YEAH, I, I, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T RUN OUT THERE AND MAKE A MOTION TO RUN INTO THE BUS OFF.

OKAY.

UH, SO THAT AGAIN, JUST FOR STUFF THAT WAS A MOTION TO DENY A MADE BY BOARD MEMBER BAILEY SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER PRUITT.

AND IT WAS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7 2 1.

SO SEVEN.

YEAH.

GAZE TWO KNEES, ONE ABSTENTION.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE NINE OUT OF 11 THE OTHER WAY FOR THAT TO PASS.

OKAY.

SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT YOUR VARIANCE WAS DENIED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[F-7 C15-2022-0018 Jason McNair for Pa]

NEXT ITEM WILL BE F SEVEN.

SEE, 15 20 22 0 0 1 8.

JASON MCNAIR FOR PAUL SMITH, 54 ANTHONY STREET.

MR. MCNAIR.

YOU ON THE LUNCH.

UM, HI, THIS IS JENNIFER HAMLIN.

I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF JASON MCNAIR, WHO IS APPLICANT'S BUTTON.

YOU CURRENTLY TRAVELING AT THE MOMENT AND NOT IN TOWN.

SO, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OWNER, WHO'S PAUL SMITH AND, UM, I HAVE THE LESS, I GET I ON THE LINE AS WELL.

WHO IS THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT? UM, SO GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME TO PRESENT.

I BELIEVE THIS IS THEIR LAST TASTE OF THE NIGHT.

I THINK IT'S FINE.

SORRY.

REAL QUICK.

DID YOU WANT TO USE THE PRESENTATION OR YOU, YOU JUST GOING TO BE SPEAKING? UH, WE CAN USE THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL UM, I'LL FOLLOW THAT.

OKAY.

JUST ONE SECOND WHILE WE GET THAT PULLED UP.

LET'S F SEVEN.

OKAY.

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

ONE MORE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY.

JUST SAY NEXT SLIDE.

WHEN YOU'RE READY.

YOU'VE GOT FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME TO PRESENT.

UM, MY NAME IS JENNIFER HANLON TAKING ON BEHALF OF JASON NARROWS, THE APPLICANT, LIKE I SAID, AND, UH, WE DO HAVE LOTS OF GUARANTEE ON THE CALL TONIGHT.

UM, SHE IS THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD.

UM, WE ARE REQUESTING A TWO-BIT ON THIS TWO REQUESTS, UM, FROM SECTION 22 DASH 2.492 AND SECTION 20 TWENTY-FIVE TWO DASH 9 4 3.

UM, THIS LAW IS A LEGAL LAW.

IT'S LOCATED IN THE HOLLY NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

UM, IT'S UH, ON THE 7 8, 7 0 2 ZIP CODE.

IT'S PART OF THE DRIVING EDITION OF THE 1910 SUBDIVISION.

UM, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS SS THREE NP, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS THE HOLLY NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

THERE'S AN EXISTING, UH, 1940S STRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT, YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY 80 YEARS AGO.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, UH, 500 SQUARE FEET.

THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE LOT.

THERE'S A PRIMARY.

THAT IS, UH, W LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR EIGHT YEARS AND THEN THERE'S A GARAGE.

UM, AND BOTH ARE IN PRETTY BAD CONDITIONS, UH, VERY DILAPIDATED AND, UM, HAVE CONCERNS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AT SOME POINT.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, UH, RACK, A APPROXIMATELY 2000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT THE FIRST FLOOR WOULD BE APPROXIMATE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

AND THE SECOND FLOOR BEING 1,260 SQUARE FEET WITH A 220 SQUARE FOOT ATTACHED GARAGE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, I'LL GO THROUGH THE REQUEST FOR THE SECTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVIATE FROM, WHICH IS SECTION 25 DASH TWO DASH ONE.

I DO A SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FROM THE 25 STANDARD 25 FOOT TWO.

SHOULD WE 10, UM, IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING.

AND

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THEN THE SECTION 25, 2 DASH 4 9 3 TO DECREASE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS FROM 4,000 SQUARE FEET TO 33 80 SQUARE FEET.

UM, I WILL SKIP TO THE, UM, YOU SKIP TO THE, WELL, YOU GO TO THE SLIDE THREE, THAT'LL SHOW YOU PICTURES OF THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF AT 54 ANTHONY, AND THEN YOU CAN GET A SLIDE FOUR THAT SHOWS YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE CONDITIONS AND THE SIDE ALLEYWAY THAT IS ALSO PRESENTING A BIT OF A HARDSHIP.

UM, THERE'S TWO OFF THE ENERGY, UH, ELECTRICAL POLES THAT ARE ALL ALONG THIS ALLEYWAY, CLOSER TO THE REAR OF THE LOT.

AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO WHEN YOU GET TO SLIDE FIVE, THAT WILL PRETTY MUCH COVER ALL OF THE, UH, REASONABLE USE HARDSHIPS, UM, ERIC CHARACTER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, WITH MY BULLET POINTS ON SLIDE FIVE, THAT THE WE'RE LOOKING AT A SUBSTANDARD LOT THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 3,380 SQUARE FEET.

SO THIS IS A SMALL LOT, UM, THAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE, UM, WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND ALLOWS UNDER AN, AN AMNESTY.

UM, THE, THE BILLABLE AREAS ALSO BEEN REDUCED BY AN AUSTIN ENERGY EASEMENT ON THE SIDE THAT REDUCES THE BUILDABLE AREA THAT, UH, IS, TAKES AWAY ABOUT 1,035 SQUARE FEET.

SO THAT ALSO PRESENTS A BIT OF A HARDSHIP FOR US AS FAR AS WHAT WE CAN DESIGN.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S A BEACH BEACHFRONT OVERLAY, THE REDUCES AND PERMIT IT'S COVERED THE 40%.

SO THAT REDUCES US ANOTHER INITIAL 5% FROM THE TYPICAL, UH, EXCEPT THREE 45%.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF PROTECTED TREES IN THE BACK.

ONE IS GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING PROTECTED AT 18 INCHES.

UM, AND THE OTHER ONE IS 20 INCHES.

THEY ARE BOTH PECANS AND BOTH IN DECENT SHAPE.

UM, IF WE WANT TO SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN, UM, I'VE, I'VE GIVEN YOU A COPY OF THE BEACHFRONT OVERLAY.

UM, NEXT SLIDE IS SEVEN.

I'M NOT FOLLOWING WE ALL ON THE TV BY THE WAY.

SO IF WE'RE ON A, YOU WANT TO SKIP THIS SHEET NUMBER SEVEN, I'VE GIVEN YOU A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL 1910 PLOT.

UM, IF WE WANT TO SKIP ALL THE WAY TO, UM, SLIDE 12, I'VE INCLUDED A COPY OF THE EGGERT FROM ACTION ITEM 1.5 0.2, BUT ALLOWS A SMALL LOT AMNESTY FOR LOTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER THE TYPICAL 57 50 SQUARE FEET REQUIREMENTS.

ALSO WANT TO SKIP TO THE SLIDE 13.

I'VE INCLUDED A COPY OF OUR LANDSAT TERMINATION, WHERE WE WERE SEEING LAST YEAR, THAT THIS LOT IS A LEGAL LOT.

UH, SLIDE 14, UH, IS, UH, INCLUDES THE, UM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE VARIANTS, UM, WHICH IS QUITE A FEW OF THEM.

I'VE ALSO INCLUDED A LETTER FROM LAURA, LAURIE RODRIGO, UM, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PACKET.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE, OKAY, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT YOUR FIVE MINUTES IS UP.

OH, OKAY.

CAN YOU WRAP IT UP? DO YOU HAVE ANY LAST COMMENTS OR, UH, I JUST, NO, NO, MA'AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE, UM, OF, OF DESIGN, UM, THAT WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AT THIS VARIANCE WASN'T APPROVED.

SO WE DO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF IT AND LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN, I HAVE MYSELF AND THE LESS AGAIN A WHO IS ARCHITECTS ON THE CALL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, COOL.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY.

HEARING NONE.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

BOARD MEMBERS, SORRY, ONE SEC.

Y'ALL UH, BOARD MEMBER BAILEY.

YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

UM, THIS LOT IS ORIENTED KIND OF SIDEWAYS AND THERE IS AN EASEMENT AND THEY SAY 10 FOOT FRONT SETBACK.

IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT MORE TO THE STREET ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT EASEMENT THAT RUNS IN FRONT OF IT, BETWEEN THE POVERTY LINE IN THE STREET.

SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A HEARTBURN WITH THAT, CAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE 10 FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK.

IT'S IT'S A BIT FURTHER BACK.

I'M NOT SURE THE OTHER, THE EASEMENT IS, I DON'T REALLY SEE A MEASUREMENT THERE, BUT IT LOOKS TO BE MAYBE AN EXTRA 15 FEET.

IT'S ALSO IN ALIGNMENT WITH THIS STRUCTURE.

THAT'S THERE.

YES.

SO IT WOULD BE IN THE SAME.

UM,

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AND I, AND I DON'T MIND DECREASING THE LOT SIZE I DO WANT TO DO AS WE DO.

AND MELISSA, YOU KNOW, DOES ALSO POINT FOR FAR IF THIS WAS TO BE APPROVED.

OKAY.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IT'S NOT BEING REALIZED BY THE WAY, IT'S THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY.

JUST IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE WATERFRONT BEACH, BUT THAT'S, THERE'S 16 SUB DISTRICTS.

IT'S FESTIVAL BEACH SUB-DISTRICT OF THE WATERFRONT OVERNIGHT ORDINANCE.

JUST, JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

IT'S NOT A BEACH OVERLAY, A BOARD, NO BOARD MEMBER PER YEAH.

I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT EXACTLY HOW FAR THE SETBACK IS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THE VARIOUS, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT PAGE THREE OF THE PRESENT TATION.

THE EXISTING STRUCTURE SEEMS TO BE PRETTY FAR BACK FROM THE STREET AS DOES THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IN THE FRONT THERE.

SO I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHERE EXACTLY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT SETBACK TO, WELL, IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK IN THEIR PACKET ON PAGE F SEVEN 13, THERE'S ACTUALLY AN EASEMENT ON BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY AND THE STREET.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IT MAKES A SETBACK LARGER THAN WHAT WE'RE GIVING THEM, BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING THEM TO WHERE THE HOUSE IS CURRENTLY PRETTY CLOSE, LIKE 10 LITTLE OVER 10 FEET, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER EXTRA, EXTRA 15 FEET BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY AND THE STREET.

AND THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

IT'S SOME SORT OF EASEMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FLOOD OR ELECTRIC OR WHAT, BUT IT HAS BEEN 13.

IT WILL SHOW YOU THAT EXTRA EASEMENT IN BETWEEN THE HOUSE.

SO, AND THE F SEVEN 18 SHOWS YOU THE EXISTING HOUSE AND THE CORKS.

YEAH.

AND IT'S ABOUT AT THE SAME.

YEAH.

SO I THINK IT'S ABOUT AN IN BETWEEN, I DON'T KNOW.

I WISH I HAD THE DIMENSIONS ON THAT, BUT IT'S AN EXTRA, PROBABLY 15.

OKAY.

SO THAT, SO, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT SO 18, RIGHT? IT SHOWS AN ADDITIONAL ART IN FRONT.

JUST THAT GRAY AREA WOULD BE THE EXTENSION IN THE FRONT.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS I HAVE TO MAKE IT BIGGER.

I CAN'T SEE THAT.

YEAH.

SO THAT LOOKS LIKE A PORCH THAT THEY WANT TO, SO THERE'S AN EXISTING PORCH THERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A BIGGER PORCH AND I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T DESIGN IT.

THE PRESENTATION HAS MORE OF A ARCHITECTURAL PLAN.

THIS IS MORE KIND OF LIKE A, HERE'S YOUR BLOB ON TOP OF YOUR BLOB, THE PRESENTATION HAD MORE OF A DRAWING IN IT, BUT THAT JUST SHOWED YOU WHERE THE TWO WERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SOMEONE WANTED MAKE A MOTION.

WELL, AND JUST REAL QUICK ALSO YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ENCROACH INTO, SO IF WE GAVE THEM 10 FOOT SETBACK, A PORCH PORCHES ALLOWED TO ENCROACH INTO THAT, I BELIEVE FIVE FEET.

SO IT HAS TO BE OPEN ON THREE TIMES.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SINCE YOU SAID SOME OF THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TYING THIS TO ONE OF THESE SITE PLANS? IT'S IN YOUR PACKET LIKE F SEVEN, 18 OR, UM, I'M SORRY, MRS. BAILEY BAILEY SPEAKING.

OKAY.

WHAT WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE ARCHITECT.

UM, IT MIGHT BE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE GRANT THESE SORT OF VARIANCES, WE WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT IT DOESN'T BLOW UP INTO SOMETHING ELSE.

AND SO A LOT OF TIMES WE DO TRY AND TIE IT TO A SITE PLAN.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF THEY WOULD BE OKAY WITH TYING IT TO SHEET F SEVEN 18 OF THEIR PACKET.

IF YOU GO TO THE PRESENTATION, ANTES SEVEN, 16, AND SEVEN 17, AND THINGS BETTER THINK THEY'RE MORE SPECIFIC.

OKAY.

WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH THAT? USING

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SPEAKING THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BUILD ANY MORE THAN WHAT WE REQUESTED CURRENTLY WHEN THE PROPOSED SITE, AS LONG AS IT'S AT POINT FOR FAR CORRECT.

AND THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED FOR A SMALL, I MISS A LOT.

WELL, ALL THEIR LOUD AND THE WATERFRONT OF LIFE IS 0.4.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE TO THAT.

I'M EXCITED.

YEAH.

I'M HAPPY FOR 2.4 AND ALSO TO THE DRAWINGS ON A, UM, PRESENTATION PAGE F SEVEN, 16 AND SEVEN, 17, OR PLACEMENT FOR PLACEMENT.

I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS WHAT FAR DO YOU HAVE DRAWN? WE ARE MAXING OUT AT 2300 SQUARE FEET.

WE'RE PROPOSING 22, 2,280 BETWEEN LEVEL ONE IN HERE IN THE GARAGE IS 220 SQUARE FEET.

THEY STAY UNDER THE 2300 SQUARE FEET.

WHAT IS YOUR FAR? OUR FCR IS MAX OUT AT 2300 SQUARE FEET FOR SMALL.

NO.

WHAT IS YOUR PERCENTAGE? YOUR ETHIC OR PERCENTAGE OF THE LOT? GIVE ME ONE THING I WOULD NEED TO CALCULATE THAT FOR YOU ALL.

SO 20% OF THE LOT IS 1300 SQUARE FEET.

WE ENTER THE SMALL NIGHT AMNESTY CATEGORY FOR THIS, WHICH BRINGS US UP TO 2300 SQUARE FOOT, MAX DEVELOPMENT, F A R L NOW AS WELL.

I THINK, YEAH, I WAS LOOKING AT CALCULATIONS EARLIER.

THERE'S LIKE DIFFERENT REPORTS IN THE, IN THE PACKET ABOUT WHAT THE SIZE IS, BUT WE'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE ON PAGE, UM, 16 OF THE PRESENTATION, IF YOU USE THOSE NUMBERS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 0.3, FIVE FAR, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER SOURCE IN THE PACKET WHERE YOU END UP WITH LIKE A 0.6, THREE FAR, WHICH ISN'T GOING TO FLY.

I MEAN, AS LONG AS IT'S KEPT AT 0.4, I IT'S FINE WITH ME, BUT YEAH, THE 0.63.

AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THE APPLICANT'S TALKING ABOUT NOW.

YEAH.

IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO WAIT FOR ALSO.

UH, SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT AND COME BACK NEXT MONTH OR, UM, THAT WOULD BE, I MEAN, I, I THINK, UM, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE DOABLE FOR AS LONG AS THE ARCHITECT AGREES.

UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE EXACT DESIGN, BUT, UM, I MEAN THE 0.4 IS, IS WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A VERY REASONABLE ON THAT SMALL A LOT.

OKAY.

SO 0.4 IS DOWN TO 1,350 TO 1,352 SQUARE FEET OF MATTHEW MOBILITY, BUILDABLE AREA, BASED ON WHAT, WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE, YOU'D HAVE YOUR ATTIC EXEMPTION, YOUR GARAGE EXEMPTION.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, MY QUESTION IS 10.

WE COULD, WE USE THE SMALL BLOCK PHARMACY ALLOW AR THAT TAKES HER TO A CONDOM AND ALLOWED TO GO TO, WELL, DO YOU HAVE A CODE REFERENCE? DO YOU HAVE A CODE REFERENCE? UH AND MY CODE OPEN, BUT UP NOT, IT IS PART OF THE BEHIND THAT SOME NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE APPLIED AND IT IS A PIED IN THE HOLLY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS I BELIEVE LDC 25 DASH TWO DASH 9 43.

HOLD ON, LET ME PULL IT UP.

CAUSE I

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DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHEN YOUR MOUSE, WHEN YOUR MOUSE QUITS WORKING, A LOT MORE TO HAVE A MINIMUM AREA AND A MINIMUM WORTH IT'S 25 FEET.

THIS APPLIES TO ALL CONVICTIONS AND OVERLAYS THAT BETWEEN THE FAMILY.

AND I'M READING THIS FROM MY PHONE THIS LOT DOESN'T MEAN THIS LOT, DOESN'T MEET SMALL LOT CAUSE IT'S UNDER 3,500.

UM, I TRIED TO QUALIFIED A LOT, MUST HAVE A MINIMUM OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET AND WE ARE AT 3,300 AND A MINIMUM WITH APPENDICITIS I BELIEVE THEY'RE NOT IDENTIFIED IN MY PARTY FACING THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND IT ALSO EXTENDS TO THE HOLLY.

SO THINKING WHAT WHAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THAT MIGHT LEAN ME MORE TOWARDS THAT TYPE OF THOUGHT.

BUT GENERALLY, GENERALLY, IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER LOT, WE'RE USUALLY LOOKING AT THE 0.4 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MASSING LOOKS LIKE FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS.

WE DID SOMETHING THAT COULD BE APPROVED BY, UM, BY THE RESIDENT WHO REVIEWED AND IF IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, WELL YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET THE VARIANCE AND THE CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD PUT ON IT GENERALLY AS A POINT FOR LIMITATION.

SO IN LESS, THE HOLLY NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN LEADS YOU TO ANOTHER DIRECTION.

THAT'S MORE SPECIFIC THAN 25 TO 9 43.

I'M SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OFF MY, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I HAVE IT PULLED UP RIGHT NOW.

IT'S 28 PAGES SIDE.

I DON'T RECALL ANY KIND OF REFERENCE TUNES, THE MAXIMUM, UM, FAR THAT WAY.

I MEAN, IF YOU FIND SOMETHING I'M MORE THAN OPEN TO IT, I'M JUST SAYING, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MASSING AND YOU LOOK AT EVERYBODY NEAR YOU, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE WANT, WE WANT HOME OWNERSHIP AND WE'RE HAPPY THAT I HAVE THAT AND, AND WANT TO SEE, SEE SOMETHING NICE.

WE ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT OVERPOWER EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND SO WITH A 0.4, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR ATTITUDE EXEMPTION, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR GARAGE EXEMPTIONS.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IN THIS CASE WOULD BE THAT WE ALSO HAVE, UM, CAPITOL VIEW CORRIDOR OVERLAY THAT WOULD MAKE IT HARDER FOR US TO GET A THIRD LEVEL ADDICT.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, YOU HAVE A CAPITOL VIEW CORRIDOR.

THERE'S AN OVERLAY OF, UH, UM, YEAH, IT'S THE, UH, CAPITOL AREA CORRIDOR AS WELL.

UM, ALONG WITH THE, THE ADDITIONAL BEACH BLANKS THAT LIMITS YOU YOUR BEACH, THAT'S BROOKE SPEECH THERE, BROOKE WAS WATERFRONT OVER LIFE PLANNING, ADVISORY BOARD, SO, OKAY.

UM, IS THERE ANY KIND OF LENIENCY TO THIS BAR SITUATION SINCE WE THIS, I MEAN, WE ARE, WE DO HAVE SO MANY RESTRICTIONS WITH THIS LOT BEING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SOFT ENERGY EASEMENT, THAT'S FAIRLY NEW THAT IT CAME UP LAST YEAR WITH AN ADDITIONAL 7.5 OR EIGHT FEET.

THAT WE'RE LIMITED, THAT THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE BUILDABLE AREA.

UM, AND THIS LOT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TINY ONE AND THERE'S NOT A TON OF 'EM OVER THERE LIKE THAT.

AND THEN I KNOW THAT ALL APPROVED, UM, SOMETHING SIMILAR LAST MONTH.

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OKAY.

OKAY.

LET ME ASK IT, I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION.

IF YOU INCLUDED THAT EIGHT FOOT EASEMENT IN YOUR CALCULATIONS, WHAT WOULD POINT FOR FAR HAVE GOTTEN YOU TO HAVE? I WAS JUST CONFIRMING HER QUESTION, MRS. BAILEY.

UM, THAT IF WE WERE TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT RESTRICTION OF AUSTIN ENERGY'S EASEMENT.

IS THAT THE QUESTION? YES.

UM, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR, I MEAN, I'M NOT THE DESIGNER ON THIS, BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY GIVE US A LOT MORE BUILDABLE AREA AND A LOT MORE SQUARE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A LOT TO USE.

SO IF YOU ADDED IN THE FIR FOR THAT EASEMENT AREA WITHIN THE SETBACK PROPOSED SO THAT WHATEVER 7.5 AP WITH YOUR REQUESTED BROWN YARD SETBACK, YOUR SIDESTEP, I COULD YOUR REAR SETBACK THAT THE AREA THAT'S LEFT THAT WOULD BE BUILDABLE.

HOW MUCH MORE IS THAT THE LVR WOULD REMAIN THE SAME? UM, UM, NO, NO, CALCULATE IT LIKE THAT'S PART OF YOUR PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T BUILD ON IT, CALCULATE THAT AREA OF THAT ENERGY EASEMENT AS IF IT WAS BUILDABLE.

THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS.

IF, IF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR BUILDABLE AREA, WHAT WOULD YOUR, WHAT WOULD YOUR ALLOWABLE SQUARE, YOU KNOW, FAR FOR FAR, WHAT WOULD YOUR ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE BE? BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN CALCULATE THAT AREA INTO IT.

OKAY.

BUT THAT AREA IS INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT LAW WAS NOT PICKING IT OUT FOR THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I'M SORRY.

I'M STILL, YEAH.

AND WE GET, IT IS IN THE CAPITAL BUKE ORDER.

SO SHE'S RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

AND SOMETIMES, BUT THE CAPITOL VIEW QUARTERS AT, WELL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRETTY TALL HOUSE TO FORT 10 PEED A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

UM, YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

UM, BUT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO BUILD A THIRD LEVEL ADDICT BECAUSE OF THE THIRD, UM, OF THE CAPITOL CORRIDOR.

IT JUST PUTS US ABOVE THE VIEW, VERY CLOSE TO THAT LAW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

AND ANTHONY, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO PARAPET FOR A SECOND STORY HOUSE.

WE HAD TO DO A SNAP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE HEIGHTS.

WE WERE, WE WERE TRYING TO PROPOSE, EVEN THINKING HOUSE A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER TO GET THE HEIGHT NECESSARY.

AND IT WAS JUST THE TWO TABLES, TWO STORIES IN THE FAMILY HOUSE.

UM, I GUESS, COULD WE COME BACK AND SHOW YOU GUYS, UM, ALLOWANCE OR FOR EVERY YEAR FOR A SMALLER AMNESTY AND SEE IF WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR IT? I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO THAT.

I, I MEAN, I FEEL FOR YA AND I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND IT'S JUST IN, UNLESS YOU CAN GIVE ME SOMETHING THEN NEIGHBORHOOD LAND, THAT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE ME BACK TO 2.5 TO 9 43.

SO IT IS A SMALL PARTICULAR.

THE ONE THING I NEED TO GIVE YOU IS, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE ALLOWABLE FAR, OR A SMALLER PHARMACY, CORRECT? YEAH.

AND VICE CHAIR.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AT ALL.

THAT'S WHEN IT IS A TOTAL USE THAT IS, WAS ADOPTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS.

AS OF MAY, 2012, IT IS PART OF A CHRISTIAN PATIENT, ESPECIALLY DIESEL OPTIONS AND DESIGN TOOLS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN MONEY.

AND SO IS THAT IN THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN? ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A GENERAL GENERAL, ESPECIALLY YOUTH AGE OPTIONS AND DESIGN TOOLS AND THE HOLLY NEIGHBORHOOD IS INCLUDED IN IT, BUT IT'S A LIST OF ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IN CLEVELAND.

SO IF NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO, UM, I'M AT THIS POINT INCLINED TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ALL SECOND THOUGHT.

UM, I MEAN, IF THERE IS A DESIGN TOOL THAT

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IF NOT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I SIT AND I'M SORRY, I AM NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH EVERYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

SO YELL AT EITHER APPROVE IT TODAY AT A MAXIMUM OF 1352 BUILDABLE AREA, THE POINT THEY ARE, OR WE CAN POSTPONE IT AND, AND, AND POINT FORWARD IS GOING TO GIVE US, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, APPROXIMATELY 1352 SQUARE FEET.

I THINK IT WAS 1382, BUT YEAH.

AND THEN YOU, YOU GET YOUR, UM, YOU'D HAVE YOUR EXEMPTIONS PER SUBJECT OR E I AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN COMBINING DISTRICTS ACTUALLY, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT HERE IT IS IN ARTICLES.

IT IS A BOOKLET FROM MAY, 2012 ON PAGE 19.

WE HAVE HOLLY NEIGHBORHOOD AS HARD AS THE SMALLER AMNESTY IT HAS YET WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A MOTION MADE BY TO POSTPONE TO APRIL 11TH, 2022, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR.

HAWTHORNE.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON IT.

UH, TOMMY IT'S.

YES.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

DARRYL PRUITT.

YES.

AUGUSTINA RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

RICHARD SMITH.

RICHARD SMITH.

YES.

NICOLE WADE.

YES.

KELLY BLOOM.

YES.

AND MARCEL GARZA.

YES.

SO LET'S POSTPONE THIS UNTIL APRIL 11TH.

COME BACK WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED FAR.

AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS WILL PROBABLY GET APPROVED BECAUSE MOST OF US DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THESE SMALL LOTS ARE PUTTING SMALL HOUSES ON THEM, BUT GIVE US SOMETHING WE CAN TIE IT TO AND IT'LL MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER.

I THINK.

WELL, LET'S BE CLEAR, JESSICA.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE BUILDING ON A SMALL LOT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE KEPT WITHIN A CERTAIN.

IT CAN'T JUST BE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO FEEL AND KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY, WHICH TIES YOU TO 0.4, WHICH HAS ITS SPECIFIC.

SO, UM, COULD I ASK HIM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS, UH, GO AHEAD.

DID YOU NEED CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING OR, UM, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT Y'ALL DID, WOULD WANT, SO WE'RE NOT KIND OF GOING IN CIRCLES HERE IS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, TIED TO THE SPECIFIC FAR AND WOULD BE, WOULD BE, OR WE HAVE TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW US OVER 0.4 OR COULD WE THOUGHT WE ABLE TO STILL, UH, PROPOSE SOMETHING GREATER? I THINK WHAT YOU HEARD WAS IN ORDER TO GRANT A VENDOR, WE TYPICALLY CONDITION THESE KINDS OF VARIANCES ON LIMITING YOUR FAR 0.4.

HOWEVER, IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT HAS ALLOWS FOR A HIGHER FAR THAT THERE'S BOARD MEMBERS WHO WOULD, UH, CONSIDER THAT POTENTIAL HIRE FAR, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS TIED TO A SPECIFIC DESIGN OR AT LEAST A SITE PLAN.

SO IF WE DO APPROVE THE VARIANCE, WE KNOW THAT IT'S FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES UP.

YEAH.

AND SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT REFERENCES THAT MORE THAN 0.4 EVERY HOUR IS ALLOWABLE.

SO WHEN IT HAPPENS A MAIN, WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, THINGS START GOING DOWN THE STREET.

AND SO IF YOUR SMALL WALL AND THEN THE SMALL LOT ADDS TO IT, IT'S JUST, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DISPROPORTIONATE MASSING ALONG.

I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST DRIVE DOWN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIKE EVERY,

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EVERY BLOCK THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE TORN DOWN SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME IT, SO IT, IT STARTS SOMETHING.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS, THIS LOT DOESN'T NEED SOME LOVE AND YOU'VE GOT SOME GREAT TREES IN THE BACK AND, AND THIS WILL BE A GREAT FRONT PORCH.

AND JUST SAYING, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE PROPORTIONAL WITH, WITH EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE STREET.

AND IF NOT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE RUNNING DOWN HERE.

UM, AND YOU'VE GOT SOME CUTE LITTLE CUTE LITTLE LIKE OUNCES THERE THAT, YEAH.

OKAY.

I'LL STOP TALKING.

IS IT OKAY? MY LAST QUESTION IS, IS THIS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE COULD, IS THIS AN ADDITION TO A VARIANT THAT WE COULD REQUEST FOR, BECAUSE THAT'S GOTTA BE A, THAT'S A RED FLAG QUESTION RIGHT THERE.

I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD TO THE, TO THE VARIOUS PACKETS AND TO THE REQUESTS? I THINK IT WAS A CONDITION THAT WE WOULD, THAT A COUPLE OF US WOULD PUT ON IT.

SO I DON'T THINK YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAYBE PROVE YOUR POINT THAT IT'S NOT, UM, DISPROPORTIONATE AND MASSING TO EVERYONE ELSE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WOULD CHANGE MY MIND UNLESS YOU HAD A CODE SECTION THAT ALLOWED YOU SOMETHING HIGHER.

UNDERSTOOD.

NOPE.

THANK YOU, MS. TACOS.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

[G-1 Discussion of the December 13, 2021 Board activity report ]

OKAY.

NEW BUSINESS ITEM, G ONE, THE BOARD ACTIVITY REPORT, THE BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL BOARD ACTIVITY REPORT THAT SHOWS US ALL THE THINGS WE DO BECAUSE WE HAVE OFTEN LAID OUT LOVELY.

AND THERE'S SO MUCH HELP.

THANK YOU, STAFF.

YES.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HE

[G-2 Discussion and possible action regarding an update on the resolution sent to council for the BOA Applicant Assistance Program (BAAP).]

AT M G TOO.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP THAT TABLED UNTIL WE GET AN UPDATE FROM CITY COUNCIL IN MAY, IF EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH THAT.

OUR LOVELY,

[G-3 Discussion and possible action to form a BOA Workgroup to review and propose changes to BOA Appeals (including, but not limited to, process and fees)]

UH, UH, WORK GROUP ON APPEALS.

SO WHO DECIDED TO TAKE CHARGE OF THAT AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN? OKAY.

DID Y'ALL MEET? OH, THAT'S A NOTE.

OKAY.

SO I'M GUESSING NO UPDATES Y'ALL NEED SOME GUIDANCE OR ASSISTANCE.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO'S IN CHARGE OF IT.

I THINK I VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON IT, BUT NOT TO LEAD IT.

UM, I'M STILL HAPPY TO BE PART OF IT.

OKAY.

I THINK YOU'D BE GOOD AT IT.

I'LL SEND AN EMAIL THROUGH A LIEN AND I WILL GIVE THE ENTIRE WORKING GROUP SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO MEET UP AND DISCUSS PROVIDERS, EVEN THE CHOCOLATE USER OR SOMETHING.

MADAM CHAIR, WHO IS ON NETWORKING GROUP.

DO THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE? NO, I THINK IT WAS MICHAEL VAN ALLEN AND MICHAEL, RIGHT.

UH, I THINK IT WAS DARYL HOWLING, AND I THINK WE WERE HOPING BARBARA, BUT BARBARA ISN'T HERE.

RIGHT.

UM, AND I ACTUALLY THINK BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YEAH, IT WAS VERY SCATTERED.

IT WAS LIKE YESES AND NOS AND, WELL, THE, THE ISSUE REALLY BECOMES THAT IF YOU REALLY FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT SOMETHING TO APPEAL, IT IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

AND NOT THAT WE WANT FRIVOLOUS APPEALS, BUT LIKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THAT'S A LOT OF 10.

UM, YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD MAKE A COUNTERPOINT TO THAT THOUGH.

LOOK AT THAT ACTIVITY REPORT AND LOOK HOW MANY WE APPROVED VERSUS HOW MANY WE'VE DENIED.

IT'S NOT IT'S, THIS IS AN APPEALS APPEALS OF A CODE LANGUAGE.

OH, I SEE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INTERPRETATION APPEALS, ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S, WE DON'T GET THAT MONEY.

I MEAN, SO WE HAD WHAT THE ONE OVER IN EASTWOOD'S WITH THE BATHROOMS WHERE THERE, THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THAT ONE, I MEAN, SO YOU DON'T GET THAT MANY WITH THE FRATERNITY HOUSE ON SHOW CREEK.

RIGHT.

UM, THE TRELLIS DID IT CONNECT, UH, THE HOUSES.

THAT WAS PRETTY AWESOME.

THAT WAS THAT THAT ACTUALLY WAS CODE THAT YOU COULD CONNECT SOMETHING WITH A BEAM OR A LADDER AND HAVE THAT BE FAMILY.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS AWESOME.

AND I'M BETTING, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE MORE OF THESE.

[03:05:01]

IF COUNCIL STARTS MAKING CHANGES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, LIKE IS CURRENTLY RUMORED.

IT'S JUST, IT TO ME, MY CONCERN ABOUT IT IS, IS THAT OKAY IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'VE REALLY GOTTEN TO THAT LEVEL OF DISSATISFACTION AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE STEPS THAT YOU CAN GO THROUGH.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE 3,600 BUCKS TO A P ALL TO STATE YOUR CASE TO THE BOARD.

I MEAN, WE GOT KIND OF BOGGED DOWN TOO ON WHO CAN APPEAL, WHO, WHO IS DEFINED AS AN INTERESTED PARTY.

SO THAT IS ALSO PART OF WHAT THIS WORK GROUP HAS TO DEFINE WELL TO APPEAL.

YEAH.

I THINK STATEWIDE, PROHIBITS, I THINK THAT, UM, THE LEGISLATURE HAS DEFINED THAT FOR US.

I THINK THIS, THIS TO ME IS IN ORDER TO GET DUE PROCESS, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH? AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY $3,600 ON TOP OF IT.

UM, AND AT LEAST IN A PAST, I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF MY GOALS AND FORMER AND CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL TO TRY TO MAKE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT A LITTLE MORE ACCESSIBLE.

UH, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

OR AT LEAST IN THE PAST, IT HAS BEEN PRETTY EXPENSIVE TO COVER THOSE COSTS OF SERVICE.

AND THAT, THAT COMES FROM THE APPLICANT.

SO GETTING THESE PRICES DOWN MIGHT ALLOW FOLKS WOULD NOT NORMALLY BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD TO KIND OF APPEAL WOULD GIVE THEM THAT ACCESS.

IT'S A LITTLE MORE EQUITABLE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU WANT EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY LA K SOME BOAT DOCK APPEAL CASE TO COME AND NOTHING ELSE.

UM, RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I SAID THAT OUT LOUD, PLEASE CALL ME.

I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

USUALLY HOW OFTEN WHEN THESE COME UP, HAVE WE HAD SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS TO ADDRESS THEM? IS THAT VERY RARELY? WE TYPICALLY USED TO DO THEM ON A SPECIAL CALL MEETING THEY'RE TIME-CONSUMING AND WE WOULD LITERALLY HEAR THEM AND THEN SCHEDULE THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING LITERALLY THEN.

UM, AND, AND THEN, AND TAKE THEM OUTSIDE OF CASES, BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY HARD TO DO.

THEY'RE LIKE A TOTAL DIFFERENT PLACE IN YOUR MIND, AND THEY'RE HARD TO DO WITH THE FULL AGENDA, BUT I THINK THAT TO LEGISLATURE CURTIS AT THAT, AND BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY CALL ONE SPECIAL CALL TO MEANING PER QUARTER, IT MAKES THINGS MORE DIFFICULT.

A BOARD MEMBER, WAIT, I'M STILL NEW TO ALL OF THIS, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO ENGINEER THE APPEAL PRICE, SUCH THAT IT, FOR LATE TO THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT WAY EVERYONE IS STILL GETTING DUE PROCESS.

AND I KNOW WE NEED TO RAISE FUNDS TO KEEP OPERATIONS GOING.

UM, THAT JUST SEEMS KIND OF LIKE A MIDDLE GROUND.

SO THAT WAY INDIVIDUALS WITH, YOU KNOW, IN LOWER VALUED NEIGHBORHOODS CAN STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL.

AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE THE APPEALS FROM HIGHER SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS AREAS, WE'RE GENERATING THAT THE FUNDS THAT WE NEED, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE EXPLORED BY THE WORKING GROUP.

I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF IDEAS.

AND I THINK THAT THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO LOOK AT IT OR APPROACH IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I, I THINK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING A WORKING GROUP.

I THINK I'VE WORKED ON THIS A LONG TIME AGO AND I JUST AM NOT UP TO IT AGAIN.

I HAD MORE TIME, BUT I WELL, AND ALSO, I MEAN, THE NEW LANGUAGE IS ABOUT FORMING THE WORK GROUP AND NOT REALLY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO SAYING, TO GET UPDATES OR MAYBE DISCUSS PROGRESS.

WELL, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST GETTING TOGETHER AND HAVING COFFEE AND THROWING OUT IDEAS IS JUST HOW THEY START OR, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULING A ZOOM OR WHATEVER IT IS.

IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST FINDING A DAY OF THE WEEK THAT WORKS AND SAY, HEY, YOU GUYS WANT TO GO GRANDMA'S SANDWICH TOGETHER AND LIKE THROW OUT IDEAS.

I MEAN, THAT'S HOW SOME OF THESE THINGS START AND, AND THEN YOU GET TO KNOW YOUR BOARD MEMBERS

[03:10:01]

AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY BASED ON THE SCREEN.

THEY'RE PRETTY NICE.

YEAH.

SO THEN MAYBE IT WOULD BE, SOMEBODY CAN LOOK AT THE, OR LISTEN TO THE TAPE AND FIND OUT WHO WAS ACTUALLY, YEAH, I'LL DO THAT TO MY GROUP.

AND AN EMAIL CAN GO OUT ON IDEAS ON HOW THEY CAN GET STARTED.

HOW'S THAT LET'S JUST DO THAT.

IT'S KIND OF WEIRD TO START.

YOU JUST GOT US SOMEWHERE VOLUNTEERED.

I THINK, I DON'T MIND, I DON'T MIND WORKING WITH A LANE TO, TO GET EVERYBODY WHO WAS ON THE WORKING GROUP, ALL THEIR CONTACTS AND, AND WE'LL GET IT TOGETHER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AFTER, PARTICULARLY AFTER HEARING THE CHURCH CASE FOR A REALLY LONG, LONG, LONG, LONG TIME, HOW MANY YEARS? I MEAN, THEY WENT TO COURT TO GET TO BE HEARD.

I KNOW.

WELL, WELL, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOT ME INTERESTED IN THE BOARD WAS THAT CASE AND, AND THE, AND THE FACT THAT THERE REALLY IS NO WAY FOR SOMEBODY TO KNOW WHETHER SOMETHING IS BEING SENT TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT OR BEING HELD UP BY STAFF BECAUSE THEY CAN'T ENGAGE IN ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE BOARD.

AND SO MAYBE PART OF THIS NEEDS TO BE JUST SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVELY, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT? WHAT DO WE, WHAT WOULD WE LIKE OUR BOARD LIAISONS TO KIND OF BE ABLE TO TAKE CONTROL OF AND REPORT TO THE BOARD EVERY MONTH? UH, AND THAT SORT OF THING.

YEAH.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT MOST OF THEM WERE EITHER CHANGED BY THE LEGISLATURE, OR, YEAH.

I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE STATE AND I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAW AND, AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, IF EVEN IF IT JUST RESULTS IN, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED AT THE CITY CODE LEVEL.

SO, SO THIS MAKES IT A BETTER PROCESS FOR THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN.

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

YEAH, BECAUSE I WILL SAY THAT I WORKED ON IT FOR A LONG TIME, UM, WITH SOME OTHER PEOPLE, BUT, UM, PEOPLE RETIRED AND THEN THERE WAS CHANGES AND SOME THINGS WE WERE TOLD WE COULDN'T GO FORWARD.

SO IT KIND OF GOT STALLED.

I FIND OUT THAT CHANGES HAVE TO BE MADE.

THAT THERE'S A LOT YOU'RE GONNA RUN INTO THAT YOU ARE GOING TO THINK YOU CAN DO, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE TOLD YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THE LAW MOSTLY IS, IS THAT COST OF SERVICE AND HOW YOU CAN PAY FOR IT OR HOW IT CAN BE FUNDED.

YEAH.

OURS WASN'T EVEN SO MUCH THAT IT'S JUST, UM, THERE'S TIME.

THERE'S THE TIME LIMITS WE COULDN'T GET AROUND.

YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY DAYS TO FILE AN APPEAL.

WELL, IF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T FIND OUT FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS, THEN IT'S TOO LATE TO FILE THE APPEAL OR, OR IT GETS HELD UP AT STAFF CAUSE THEY DON'T THINK IT'S A VALID.

UM, AND, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT.

CAUSE I KNOW THEY GET A LOT OF, THEY GET A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION, BUT SOME OF THOSE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I THINK.

AND SO IT'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE WORDING TO WEED THROUGH THE FRIVOLOUS ONES, WITH THE ONES THAT HAVE MERIT, BUT MAYBE WE DON'T EVER SEE.

AND ALSO THE WORKING ON THE TIMELINE OF WHEN AN APPEAL HAS TO BE FILED, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE BIG, ONE OF THE BIGGER IMPEDIMENTS IS YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY DAYS.

AND IF HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT FOR AN EXTRA WEEK, THEN TOO LATE.

AND I THINK BE DISCUSSING THIS NOT, I LITERALLY WAS JUST GOING TO CUT IN.

WE REALLY NEED TO, TO, TO LET THE WORKING GROUP DISCUSS THAT AND THEN COME BACK TO US WITH THEIR IDEAS.

BUT, UH, JUST REMINDER KIN AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CALL, LIKE EVERYBODY AT ONCE, TALK TO EACH OTHER, GET IDEAS, GET ADVICE.

SO WORK GROUP, JUST NOT A QUORUM,

[G-4 Announcements ]

BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO G4.

UH, ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS, GERMAN, WHAT SWIMMING WHILE WE, UM, IT'S ALL THIS GOOD BLOOD CHILDREN.

DO YOU MEAN LIKE SWIMMING BOARD MEMBER RODRIGUEZ? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS.

UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT STAGE TWO, UH, WITH COVID, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE QUICKLY MOVING TO THREE AGE ONE AND WHATEVER ELSE.

UM, ASSUMING THERE ISN'T A SPIKE AFTER SPRING BREAK, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SO WHEN IS THE, HOW LONG CAN WE CONTINUE TO MEET VIRTUALLY FOREVER? AS LONG AS THAT IS THAT INDEFINITELY? YES.

THAT WAS PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL EMERGENCY, UH, JANUARY TWO.

WAS IT THE 28TH MEETING? I THINK I MAY NOT BE RIGHT ON THE DAY, BUT IT WAS JANUARY.

OKAY.

AND SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THE BOARD WOULD BE WILLING TO MEET IN PERSON AGAIN, ONCE COVID RISK IS

[03:15:01]

NOT AN ISSUE AND YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO WELL, I MEAN, I'D BE WILLING TO, BUT I DON'T, TO BE HONEST PART OF MY PROBLEM, LOOK COVID, AND ALSO IT'S SITTING FOR FIVE HOURS WITH A MASK ON, RIGHT? NO, I GET THE COVID IMPLICATION, BUT YOU KNOW, WE JUST, AS LONG AS THERE'S THAT MASK BANDAID, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T AND THERE'S RUMOR THAT'S GOING TO BE, I'M ASKING.

CAUSE WE WON THE WHOLE WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO STAY IN PLACE AT CITY HALL.

RIGHT.

SO AS THE BOARD MEMBERS, LET'S USE CITY HALL, LET'S MEET THERE AND GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER, BECOME A STRONG BOARD WITH THIS CHEMISTRY THAT WE HAVE HERE, YOU KNOW? AND I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT WOULD BE

[G-5 Discussion of future agenda new business items, staff requests and potential special called meeting and/or workshop requests]

EXCELLENT.

I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT ONE MORE TIME.

CAUSE I'M BEING CHASTISED BY LEGAL FOR LETTING THIS GO ON.

IT'S NOT ANNOUNCEMENT.

THIS WOULD BE A DISCUSSION OF FUTURE AGENDA, NEW BUSINESS.

UH, SO LET'S CHECK AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS, BIRTHDAYS, ANNIVERSARIES, NO KEY.

SO THEN G FIVE, I THINK THIS WOULD FALL UNDER MAYBE A NEW BUSINESS ITEM TO DISCUSS.

UH, WE COULD PUT THE HYBRID MEETING, UH, AGENDA ITEM BACK ON THE AGENDA AND DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE COMING A PERSON AND WORK WITH IT FROM THERE.

YEAH.

CAUSE IT'S GONNA TURN INTO LIKE A CULTURE, UH, ISSUE AND CHOICE AND YOU KNOW, ANYWAY KNOW THAT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.

I'LL PUT THAT BACK ON FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

UM, ANY OTHER, UH, FUTURE AGENDA, NEW BUSINESS ITEMS OR WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU, ELAINE.

THANK YOU.

CITY HALL.

A B YOU'RE VERY WELCOMING.

THANK YOU, ERICA.

I THINK WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.

OH, BUDGET BUDGET, RIGHT?

[G-6 Discussion and possible action regarding the budget memo email distributed by the City Clerk’s office]

ITEM G SIX.

IT'S IN THE ADDENDUM.

ARE THERE ANY SUGGESTIONS, COMMENTS? UM, THIS WAS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT OUT BY THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

UH, HOPEFULLY EVER, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ALREADY HAS SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO FUND.

UM, THIS YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO.

WE HAD LIKE, WE WERE TRYING TO FUND OUTSIDE COUNSEL OF COURSE, THAT GOT NIXED AT ONE POINT AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT OR, OR IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS ALREADY HAD SPECIFIC THINGS LIKE WE'D BROUGHT UP UNDER BUSINESS OR AGENDA ITEMS ON BUSINESS THAT PEOPLE WOULD BRING UP.

AND AS A BOARD WE WOULD DISCUSS ITEMS THAT REQUIRED A BUDGET.

BUT I DON'T RECALL US DISCUSSING ANYTHING THIS YEAR THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO ADD TO THE BUDGET, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE ABLE TO BE BACK AT CITY HALL TOO.

I THINK THAT RIGHT.

RIGHT.

I WOULD AGREE UNLESS IT'S LIKE A THANK YOU TO STUFF LUNCHEON WHERE WE ALL GET TO EAT TOGETHER.

I'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

I ACTUALLY THINK THAT OUR STAFF IS OUR BUDGET BREAK.

YEAH.

YEAH.

VERY FAIR.

THINK STAFF ARE AMAZING.

STAFF IS OUR BUDGET.

YES.

DO I GET CREDIT FOR THAT? ELAINE? SHE'S OVER THERE SNICKERING AT HER DESK.

YES.

OKAY.

I LIKE THERE'S UM, A AGREE.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT.

I THINK FOR THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH WHAT WE GOT AND UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? NO, MAYBE AS YOU GO THROUGH APPEALS WORK GROUP, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR NEXT YEAR, RIGHT ON.

OKAY THEN GUYS.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, NICOLE.

I KNOW YOU ARE SICK APPRECIATED.

UH, IT IS 9:13 PM AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR TRIMMING.

STANDING AROUND QUIET AS MOUSE'S GOT TWO CARS, GOT TWO HOUSES.

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

HEATHER SAYS WORLDLY AGAIN.

THERE'S BEEN SOME MYSTERY TO HIM, THE WOMAN AND THE MAN DON'T KNOW A WELL FIRST SAYING FAT .