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SO THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO REPLACE AUSTIN'S EXISTING PRESERVATION PLAN
[1.a. Briefing and discussion related to the equity-based preservation plan in progress, to be presented by Cara Bertron – City of Austin Housing and Planning Department (*This meeting was joined in progress*)]
FROM 1981 WITH AN INCLUSIVE EQUITY-FOCUSED AND COMMUNITY ORIENTED PROCESS.AND OUTCOME MUCH HAS CHANGED IN AUSTIN OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS AS, UM, POPULATION HAS NEARLY TRIPLED, UM, VERY HIGH DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE, AND THAT'S LED TO SOME REALLY DRAMATIC CHANGES IN AUSTIN, OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WE NEED AN UP-TO-DATE PLAN WITH UP-TO-DATE POLICIES IN TOOLS TO HELP STEWARD LOCAL HERITAGE THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION FIELD HAS ALSO SHIFTED SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES, AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, THERE'S AN EXPANDED EMPHASIS ON TELLING THE FULL AMERICAN STORY, NOT JUST THE STORIES OF THOSE WITH POWER AND WEALTH RECOGNITION OF, UH, FOR AN ACULAR LIKE, UM, MORE MIDDLE AND WORKING CLASS BUILDINGS, UH, IN LANDSCAPES, UH, SIGNIFICANT NEW POLICY CONVERSATIONS AROUND HOW PRESERVATION OF KIM HELPED INCREASE, UM, EQUITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE AND VERY NEW SPECIFIC TOOLS LIKE CULTURAL DISTRICTS, UM, ASSISTANCE TO HEIRS PROPERTY OWNERS AND TRADES TRAINING PROGRAMS. SO IT'S AN EXCITING AND EXCITING TIME TO BE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT PRESERVATION IN THE CONTEXT OF A GROWING CITY.
SO WE WANTED OUR PLAN TO BE EQUITY-BASED AND COMMUNITY FOCUSED, AND TO REALLY DIG INTO THESE QUESTIONS.
UM, HOW CAN WE BETTER RECOGNIZE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SHARING IMPORTANT PLACES IN STORIES, HOW CAN PRESERVATION POLICIES AND TOOLS ADDRESS, UM, OTHER, UH, ARGUABLY BIGGER COMMUNITY ISSUES AND HOW CAN CITIZENS CO-CREATE CONSERVATION POLICIES, UM, THAT CAN OFTEN, ESPECIALLY IN THE CITY CONTEXT GET PRETTY WONKY PRETTY FAST.
SO AUSTIN, LIKE OTHER US CITIES, UM, HAS LOTS OF HISTORICAL WRONGS AND EXCLUSIONS TO RECOGNIZE INTERVIEW DRESS.
THIS IS ONE SPREAD OF FIVE IN A BACKGROUND, BRIEF, BRIEF ON EQUITY, UM, THAT STARTS, UM, WITH THE GENOCIDE AND COLONIZATION OF NATIVE PEOPLES.
AND THEN IT RUNS UP TO THE PRESENT DAY.
IT WAS AN EARLY PIECE OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION WE GAVE, UH, IN THIS PLANNING PROCESS.
SO I'M TELLING YOU ALL A LOT OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF PRESERVATION WHERE WE HAVEN'T DONE SO MUCH TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS BEFORE.
SO THESE, THESE HISTORICAL WRONGS COMPOUND, UM, THINGS LIKE POVERTY LEVELS, WHICH ARE MUCH HIGHER IN EAST AUSTIN AND ALSO MORE SPECIFIC, UM, MATTERS LIKE PRESERVING, LIKE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
YOU CAN SEE IN THIS MAP THAT OUR HISTORIC RESOURCES ARE CONCENTRATED IN, IN WEST AUSTIN, IN HISTORICALLY WHITE, HISTORICALLY EXCLUSIONARY AREA, WHICH MEANS THAT THE TANGIBLE BENEFITS OF PRESERVATION LIKE THE ANNUAL PARTIAL TAX EXEMPTION FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK OWNERS, PRETTY GENEROUS ARE CONCENTRATED IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
WE, UM, I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROFIT COMMUNITY-BASED PROCESS FOR THIS PLAN AS AN ECOSYSTEM.
UM, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION CREATED THE PRESERVATION PLAN WORKING GROUP, UM, WHICH IS A GROUP OF 26 COMMUNITY MEMBERS AT THE CENTER OF THE PROCESS FOR PHASE ONE.
UM, WE HIRED A PROFESSIONAL FACILITATOR TO HELP WITH THE GROUP.
UM, AND THEN THERE'VE BEEN, UH, A FEW OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOCUSED INPUT IN THIS PHASE, A COMMUNITY HERITAGE SURVEY LAST FALL, UM, PLUS FOCUS CONVERSATIONS WITH SMALLER GROUPS OF CITY STAFF, COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN FOCUS GROUPS AND HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVES.
SO WE DID A REALLY BROAD RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THE WORKING GROUP.
UM, BUT ABOUT 10 MONTHS AGO, UM, AND THE WORKING GROUP IS THE MAIN, UM, FACTOR IN PHASE ONE.
WE REACHED OUT, UH, DID A LOT OF OUTREACH THROUGH COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
WE DID INDIVIDUAL OUTREACH AND WE PUT FLYERS UP AROUND THE CITY, INCLUDING, UH, LIBRARIES ACROSS THE CITY AND ALSO ETHNIC GROCERY STORES.
UM, MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO OPT INTO $25 PER HOUR PAYMENT, UH, FOR MEETINGS AND PREPARATION TIME.
AND WE PARTNERED WITH THE LIBRARY ON TECHNOLOGY THEN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE COULD ATTEND REMOTE MEETINGS.
I THINK WE MAY BE MEETING IN PERSON FOR THE FIRST TIME IN APRIL.
UM, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEANTIME, IF SOMEONE IS ABLE TO MAKE, UM, ON THE MEETINGS, WE HAD NEARLY 150 APPLICANTS, WHICH IS A LOT FOR A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROCESS AND WAS REALLY EXCITING.
WE SLEPT IT, BUT LANDMARK COMMISSION SELECTED 26 COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, AND THE WORKING GROUP ENDED UP LARGELY MARRIED, MIRRORING AUSTIN'S RACIAL AND ETHNIC MAKEUP.
ALSO REALLY EXCITING FOR A PRESERVATION PROCESS, UM, WHERE TYPICALLY THE FOLKS WHO SHOW UP TO GIVE INPUT ARE, UM, ARE LARGELY WHITE AND MUCH LESS RACIALLY AND ETHICALLY DIVERSE.
WE ALSO HAVE A THIRD OF RENTERS IN THE GROUP, WHICH IS PRETTY, UM, IT'S, IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY
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HIGH FOR PRESERVATION PROCESS WHERE WE MOSTLY HEAR FROM, FROM PROPERTY OWNERS.IT DOESN'T MEET AUSTIN 55% VENTURES, BUT IT IS STILL STILL SOMETHING.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HALF THE MEMBERS OF THE WORKING GROUP OPTED INTO COMPENSATION.
SO WORKING GROUP INCLUDE STAKEHOLDERS WHO COVER PRESERVATION, SPECIFIC FIELDS, PLUS A LOT OF ALLIED FIELDS.
UM, WE WANTED TO HAVE, HAVE REALLY BROAD PERSPECTIVES IN THE GROUP.
UM, WORKING GROUP MEMBERS DO COME FROM VERY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
SO THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THE PROCESS WE'RE FOCUSED ON LAYING GOOD GROUNDWORK AROUND HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND EQUITY.
WE'VE BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF USING CLEAR LANGUAGE, AVOIDING TECHNICAL TERMS AND ACRONYMS AND PROVIDING BACKGROUND MATERIALS WITH LOTS OF GRAPHICS AND CHARTS.
JUST SAYING, LOOK, LET'S START WITH THE VERY BASICS, UM, KIND OF RUSHING THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, UM, TRYING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, LET'S SEE.
SO WE'RE PART WAY RIGHT NOW WE'RE PART WAY THROUGH PHASE ONE.
AND I WOULD JUST A YEAR LONG PROCESS THAT WILL RESULT IN A DRAFT EQUITY-BASED PRESERVATION PLAN FROM THE WORKING GROUP IN PHASE TWO, WHICH WILL START THIS FALL.
WE'LL DO BROAD, INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT AROUND THE SPECIFICS OF THE DRAFT PLAN.
IT'S A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE WORKING GROUP SCHEDULE IN PHASE ONE.
AS I MENTIONED, WE STARTED OUT WITH, UM, A FAIR AMOUNT OF BACKGROUND AND KIND OF SOME PROCESS DISCUSSIONS IN THE GROUP WERE MOST OF THE WAY THROUGH, UM, SPECIFIC TOPICS, WHICH WE'RE COVERING ON FIVE MONTHS.
AND THEN WE'LL FINISH IN JUNE BY REVIEWING ALL THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS TOGETHER WITH A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WORKING GROUP ABOUT THE DRAFT PLAN AND HERE, AND THIS IS AN ENTERTAINING VERSION.
UM, IT JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY INPUT IN PHASE ONE.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THEY'RE PRETTY DEEP AND FOCUSED, BUT THEY HAVE BRED INVOICES FROM, FROM OUTTA OUTSIDE THE WORKING GROUP.
UM, YES, AT DISCRETE POINTS, THESE TWO WILL INVOLVE A FEW COMPONENTS.
UM, THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AROUND THE DRAFT PLAN.
UM, I THINK TALKING INVITING BIGGER CONVERSATIONS AROUND HERITAGE AND PRESERVATION, REALLY TRYING TO MAKE THE TENT BIGGER ABOUT WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT PRESERVATION AND PROVIDING INPUT ON THE PLAN WILL ASK COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO REFINE AND PRIORITIZE RECOMMENDATIONS TO IDENTIFY GAPS IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY CRITICAL PIECE AND TO BUILD SUPPORT FOR THE PLAN.
UM, AS PART OF THE EFFORT TO ESPECIALLY PRIORITIZE OUTREACH TO HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES.
UM, OUR HOPE IS TO HIRE COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS, TO WORK ALONGSIDE CITY STAFF AND A CONSULTANT TO MAKE THAT PROCESS AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE AND EFFECTIVE.
WE WILL ALSO, UM, BEGIN TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR IMPLEMENTATION WITH COST ESTIMATES FOR PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN FINALLY THE PLAN WILL GO TO RELATED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND IN COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION, I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH A COUPLE OF, OF LAST THINGS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A REALLY BIG ONE.
THIS WAS DRAWN DIRECTLY FROM RESPONSES TO THE COMMUNITY HERE AT EACH SURVEY LAST FALL AT ABOUT 170 RESPONSES FROM AROUND THE CITY.
UM, AND THE VISION STATEMENT IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
AUSTIN ACTIVELY ENGAGES COMMUNITIES IN PROTECTING AND SHARING IMPORTANT PLACES AND STORIES PRESERVATION USES THE PAST TO CREATE A SHARED SENSE OF BELONGING AND TO SHAPE AN EQUITABLE, INCLUSIVE, SUSTAINABLE, AND ECONOMICALLY VITAL FUTURE FOR ALL.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT PLACE IS AT THE CORE IT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT THE FOCUS IS REALLY ON THE ROLE THAT PRESERVATION PRESERVATION AND HISTORIC PLACES COMPLAINT IN AUSTIN AS A WHOLE, THAT IS ENGAGING COMMUNITIES TO SHAPE A BETTER CITY WITH.
THEY SHOWED SOME SIMPLE LONGING.
SO IT'S, IT'S MUCH BIGGER THAN OUR CURRENT PRESERVATION PROGRAM IS IN TERMS OF FOCUS.
BUT I THINK, I THINK IT'S REALLY EXCITING.
UM, AND FINALLY HERE IS THE EQUITY EVALUATION FRAMEWORK.
UM, THIS IS A TOOL THAT WE'RE USING TO ENSURE THAT EQUITY IS CONSIDERED THROUGHOUT THE PLAN, NOT IN A SEPARATE SECTION, AND IT TAKES 10 CRITERIA FOR SUCCESS THAT THE WORKING GROUP DEVELOPED FOR THE PLAN AND APPLIES AN EQUITY LENS, UM, TO THOSE CRITERIA FOR SUCCESS IT'S INTENDED TO HELP PREVENT BLIND SPOTS.
AND THE IDEA IS THAT IT WILL RE THE HOPE IS THAT IT WILL RESULT IN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POLICIES AND TOOLS THAT DON'T INADVERTENTLY CAUSE HARM TO HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN FORMED BY PUBLIC POLICIES IN THE PAST.
AND WE ARE USING THIS TO EVALUATE EVERY DRAFT RECOMMENDATION AND THE PLAN.
OKAY, VERY FINALLY, THIS IS OUR PROJECT WEBSITE.
UM, WE ARE UPDATING THE DOCUMENTS, UM, THIS SECTION, UH, EVERY MONTH WITH NEW, WITH MEETING INFORMATION, BACKGROUND BRIEFS PRESENTATIONS.
UM, AND I WILL MAKE A NOTE THAT THIS SHORT LINK IS CASE SENSITIVE.
UM, THIS, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER COMMUNITY PROCESS.
I MENTIONED WE HAVEN'T MET IN PERSON YET, BUT WE WERE HOPING TO IN APRIL, THIS IS MY EMAIL ADDRESS.
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AND, UM, I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS BY EMAIL OR I'M HAPPY TO CHAT WITH QUESTIONS, UM, RIGHT NOW.I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1963 AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS, BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT'S A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT BECAUSE WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 63, MY BEST FRIENDS WERE FROM EAST AUSTIN, EITHER LATINOS OR AFRICAN-AMERICANS BECAUSE I WAS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF ATHLETICS AND THEY WERE MY BEST FRIENDS.
THEY'VE ALL MOVED TO PFLUGERVILLE.
YOU GO TO EAST AUSTIN, THAT DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE IT USED TO THE FIRST PERSON, THE FIRST A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS HIT WAS THE CLARKSVILLE BECAUSE I WENT TO OLD HENRY, RIGHT? SO CLARKSVILLE WAS THE FIRST, THEY WERE ACTUALLY THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICANS I MET CAUSE I WAS FROM THE VALLEY.
I'D NEVER KNEW ANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS THERE, BUT I GOT TO KNOW THEM THROUGH SPORTS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WELL, WHEN THE DEVELOPERS HAD CLARKSVILLE, I WAS REALLY BOTHERED BY THAT.
I GOT REALLY INVOLVED IN A LOT OF CAMPAIGNS THAT WERE TRYING TO SIT, SAY, CLARKSVILLE, THE DEVELOPERS WERE GOING IN THERE AND TRYING TO GENTRIFY THAT AREA.
WELL, 10 YEARS LATER, THAT SAME THING STARTED HAPPENING EAST OF 35, ALL THE LATINO AND THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES JUST KIND OF LIKE DISSOLVED.
AND IT'S JUST LIKE, IT'S LIKE NOW IT'S COMING UP.
LIKE, I THINK IT'S LIKE 20 DAYS, 20 YEARS LATE IN ABOUT $10 MILLION, YOU KNOW, $10 BILLION SHORT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S EFFORTS, BUT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT LONG TIME AGO.
AND NOW THIS
THE MAIN THING I LIKE ABOUT THE
IT'S GOING TO GET RID OF THAT RACIAL DIVIDE IS WHAT I CALL IT.
AND THE CITY DOESN'T SEEM ALL THAT INTERESTED IN PAYING THE EXTRA AMOUNT IN MAKING THAT KIND OF A, KIND OF A REALLY URBAN DESIGN EFFORT THAT WILL BRING THE COMMUNITIES TOGETHER.
EVEN THOUGH I THINK THERE ARE NO COMMUNITIES LEFT ON THE EAST SIDE OF 35.
AND I JUST WANT IT TO GO ON RECORD AND SAY THAT, THANK YOU.
I REALLY LIKED THE PRESENTATION.
I WANT TO ECHO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT A COMMISSIONER KENNEDY ICI IS SAYING IN THAT I HAVE HARD TIME COMPREHENDING WHAT THE PRODUCT LOOKS LIKE.
THE OUTCOME DOES THIS BECOME REMIT REMNANTS OF DISTRICTS THAT STILL REMAIN AREAS.
AND IS THAT GOING TO WORK WITH OUR, NOT WITH OUR EXISTING ZONING AND LAND RIGHTS FOR THOSE OWNERS? THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.
HOW DOES THIS WORK WITH CODE? ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD IS IT REALLY EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED ACROSS AUSTIN? THE EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE IS MY DISTRICT CONVICT HILL, AND THAT AREA HAS A LOT OF RICH HISTORY, NOT ONLY WITH THE STATE CAPITOL, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE WHOLE HISTORY, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF KIND OF HISTORY AND IT, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT IN THE LOCAL PUBLICATION WHERE IT EXISTED.
ARE WE FOCUSED ON CERTAIN AREAS? DO THEY BECOME, UH, ACTUAL AREAS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE TO GO AND GET A ZONING CHANGE OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LAND FIGHTS AND RIOTS, OR THERE'S JUST A LOT OF OUTLINE, BUT I'M NOT SENSING WHAT THE ENGAGEMENT LOOKS LIKE.
YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND THIS IS REALLY I'M HERE GIVING YOU AN INTRODUCTION TO THE PROJECT WITHOUT ACTUALLY BRINGING THE MAIN PORTS, WHICH WILL BE THE DRAFT PLAN, WHICH WILL BE FINALIZED THIS LATE THIS SUMMER, UM, THE PLAN ITSELF.
AND I WILL CERTAINLY SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
UM, WHEN IT, WHEN IT BECOMES, UM, WHEN THAT DRAFT IS, IS COMPILED AND, AND COMES OUT OF THE WORKING WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THE PLAN WILL INCLUDE CITYWIDE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR NEW PROGRAMS AND TOOLS TO EXPLORE.
UM, IT WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL SURVEYS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, COULD IDENTIFY POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCES, BUT IT IS NOT IN ITSELF GOING TO RECOMMEND SPECIFIC NEW LANDMARKS OR DISTRICTS.
UM, ON TOP OF THOSE THAT WE ALREADY HAD, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOING TO, UM, MAKE SOME, SOME PROCESS AND POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR THE WHOLE CITY THAT WILL INVITE IT TO BUILDING HISTORIC ANGEL BUILDINGS ACROSS THE CITY.
SO NO ACTUAL IMPLEMENTABLE CODES, ORDINANCES DIRECTIVES FOR TANGIBLE EMBODIED EFFICATION OF THIS EFFORT, NOT FOR SPECIFIC PROPERTIES.
THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL BE, I THINK, SPECIFIC, UM, POLICIES AND TOOLS IDENTIFIED THAT WOULD, THAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTABLE, HOPEFULLY.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT GOING TO SAY, OH, YOU SHOULD.
THE CITYWIDE PLAN IS NOT GOING TO POINT AT ONE BUILDING OR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY, THIS MUST BE HISTORIC.
IT'S MORE IDENTIFYING WAYS THAT EXISTING PROCESSES CAN BE MORE STREAMLINED AND EFFECTIVE.
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UM, HOW INCENTIVES MIGHT BE CHANGED OR EXTENDED TO MAKE PRESERVATION, UM, MORE ATTRACTIVE OR, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE, UH, VIABLE OPTION IN A CLIMATE OF REALLY HIGH DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES, UM, WASTE THAT TYPES OF RESOURCES THAT MIGHT BE RECOGNIZED.YOU TALKED ABOUT LEGACY BUSINESSES, UM, AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS IN DECEMBER.
SO THAT THAT'S, THOSE ARE PROGRAMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE NOW, BUT WE'VE WORKED, WE'RE WORKING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF, TO SHAPE THOSE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO BE CONSIDERED FOR PUBLIC CONVERSATION IN PHASE TWO.
UM, THOSE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME EXAMPLES ABOUT, UH, AREAS THAT WILL BE TACKLED IN THE PLAN RATHER THAN SPECIFIC, UH, PROPERTY RECOMMENDATIONS.
HEY, WHAT ELSE CAN I ASK? YEAH.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M CURIOUS IF THE SCOPE OF THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF SHARE MY MOTIVATION FOR ASKING THAT I'M SEEING A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS, UH, IN MY AREA, IN, ON NORTH LAMAR, IN THE HIGHLAND NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF SMALL MOM AND POP SHOPS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN BULLDOZED FOR, UH, LARGE SCALE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS THAT DON'T EVEN OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS TO COME BACK IN INTO THAT SPACE.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S PART OF IT.
YOU KNOW, I, I SEE A LOT OF INSTITUTIONS, UM, THAT ARE UP ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK RIGHT NOW.
UH, YOU KNOW, EL MERCADO DOWNTOWN IS ABOUT TO BE BULLDOZED.
THAT'S A LOCAL BUSINESS THAT'S GONE.
UM, THE IRON BEAR, WHICH IS AN LGBTQ, UH, INSTITUTION IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY, UH, COULD BE BULLDOZED.
SO I'M SEEING THESE INSTANCES WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CULTURAL FABRIC OF OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, WHICH HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON, ON SMALL BUSINESSES, UM, IS BEING IMPACTED.
SO THAT'S KINDA, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IS THE SCOPE JUST RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UM, ANECDOTALLY, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN A HIGHLAND NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WOULD SAY 10 YEARS AGO, SOMETHING OF THIS EFFECT MAY HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE TO SAVE SOME OF THESE STRUCTURES.
BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT, UM, JUST GIVEN MY ENGAGEMENT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE HIGHLAND COMMUNITY, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FIGHTING FOR PRESERVATION ARE THOSE WHO ARE IN FACT WITH POWER AND WEALTH.
UM, YOU KNOW, TH THEY'RE THE ONES WHO THEY WANT TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDER THE GUISE THAT THEY DON'T WANT OTHER PEOPLE OF LOWER INCOME COMING IN.
YOU KNOW, SO I GUESS, HOW, HOW DO WE, UH, CONSIDER EITHER THE RIGHT TO RETURN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OR, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS ACTUALLY PRESERVING THE STRUCTURE ITSELF? HOW DOES THAT KEEP PEOPLE IN? AND HOW DOES THAT NOT FURTHER THE HOUSING SUPPLY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, GIVEN OUR CURRENT CODE IS, YOU KNOW, RAISING PEOPLE'S PROPERTY TAXES AND THAT'S, WHAT'S PUSHING THEM OUT.
IT'S NOT WHETHER OR NOT THE STRUCTURE IS DEMOLISHED.
SO I GUESS I, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THOSE TWO QUESTIONS, NUMBER ONE, UM, SCOPE, DOES IT IMPACT LOCAL BUSINESS AND NUMBER TWO, UM, HOW DOES PRESERVING A STRUCTURE EQUATE TO PRESERVING THE CULTURAL CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD? YEAH.
SO THE FIRST ONE, IN TERMS OF AN ANSWER TO THE FIRST ONE, NO, IT'S, IT'S, UH, BEN FOR ALL PROPERTY TYPES IN ALL SORT OF TYPES OF HERITAGE, OPPRESSIVE CITIES.
I MENTIONED LIKE THE WORKING GROUP CONSIDERED LEGACY BUSINESSES AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS AT ORAL HISTORIES.
UM, THERE WAS A MEETING DEDICATED TO INTANGIBLE HERITAGE, BUT KIND OF THE BUSINESSES ARE, ARE TANGIBLE, BUT THE THINGS THAT MAKE THEM IMPORTANT ARE, ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE BRICK AND MORTAR, UM, AT THAT SPACE.
SO YES, THAT ABSOLUTELY, UM, IS BEING ADDRESSED OR IT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, I THINK THAT SPEAKS IN A BROADER SENSE TO BE YOUR SECOND QUESTION ABOUT BUILDINGS AND PEOPLE AND STORIES AND, UH, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN A CITY WITH AN AFFORDABILITY CRISIS, UM, WITH REALLY HIGH DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES.
UM, I THINK TO, TO FULLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, UM, NEED MORE TIME AND, UH, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPARING, BUT, BUT A LOT MORE TIME.
UM, I THINK THAT THE SHORT OF IT IS, IS THAT, THAT THERE IT'S SAFEGUARDING AND EXISTING LANDSCAPE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN NOT ADDING DENSITY.
UM, THE WORKING GROUP LAST MONTH TALKED ABOUT IT EXCEPT FOR INVOLVEMENTS AND, UM, OTHER WAYS TO ADD AT DENSITY WITHIN THE EXISTING FABRIC.
UM, THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT, AND THIS IS UNDER THE INCENTIVES TOPIC.
THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT WAYS TO ROUTINE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO MAY LIVE IN HISTORIC BUILDINGS, BUT MAY NOT.
SO LIKE, UM, THE IDEA OF AN INCOME CASE AND INCOME-BASED PROPERTY TEXTS, CIRCUIT BREAKER, THAT THAT'S
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A RECOMMENDATION UNDER CONSIDERATION NOW.UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S AIMED AT TAPPING THE PERCENTAGE OF INCOME THAT PREP THAT HOMEOWNERS PAYING, UM, BASED ON, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES BASED ON INCOME.
UM, SO I THINK THERE'S A REAL RECOGNITION OF THE VALUE THAT, THAT PEOPLE BRING TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, BUT ALSO A RECOGNITION THAT THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT IS WHERE A LOT OF STORIES ARE CONTAINED THAT, THAT THEY, UH, THAT THE HOME WHERE PEOPLE GREW UP OR THE PLACE WHERE, UH, A BUSINESS THAT HAS EXISTED FOR 25 YEARS OR 30 YEARS OR 15 YEARS, IF THAT MATTERS TO PEOPLE, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A, IT'S A TANGIBLE LINK TO IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT MEMORIES.
I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER POINTS THEY COULD GET INTO ON THAT.
UM, I THINK AT THIS TIME ALSO IN AUSTIN, THERE'VE BEEN, UM, AND IT IT'S A MUCH BIGGER, MUCH BIGGER THING, BUT IN TERMS OF MARKET AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THE NON-SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, IT'S MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE OLDER, OLDER BUILDING STOCK THEN THAN IT IS TO BE REBUILDING STOCK.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CAPITAL H CAPITAL P HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC LANDMARKS, BUT THERE IS ADDITIONAL VALUE TO THAT EXISTING, UM, EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I, I APPRECIATE THIS HEADS UP FOR SEEING THE DRAFT IN PHASE ONE.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO COMMENT, BUT I WILL LET YOU KNOW.
NOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHEN IN PHASE ONE IN THE LATEST SUMMER IS WHAT I'M TROUBLED WITH IS THAT 1981 WAS 41 YEARS AGO.
AND SO TO DEFINE WINE NOW, SUBSTANTIAL POPULATION GROWTH, HEIGHTENED, UM, DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE THAT MOVING FORWARD.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO SEE THIS THROUGH THROUGH 2024? AND THEN WHAT IS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT BEYOND THAT? SO IF IT TOOK US 41 YEARS TO REVISIT THIS, WHEN THIS, WHEN THIS COULD HAVE BEEN REVISITED 10, 15, 20 YEARS AGO, IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF THRESHOLD THAT COULD BE DEFINED, OKAY, THIS AMOUNT OF POPULATION GROWTH, THIS AMOUNT OF HIGH DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE IS WHAT TRIGGERS WE NEED TO REVISIT THIS PLAN, DOES THAT EXIST OR NOT EXIST? AND IF, AND IF IT DOESN'T WHEN PHASE ONE COMES THROUGH, I THINK THAT'S REALLY A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR OF WHAT'S THE COMMITMENT TO THIS, SO THAT WE, AS CIVILIANS CAN HOLD THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE.
SO IT DOESN'T TAKE ANOTHER 41 YEARS, WHICH I KNOW IS OUT OF YOUR PREPPING, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT, UM, IN THE SUMMER WITH THE PHASE ONE DRAFT.
THAT'S, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
UM, AND I THINK LARGELY WILL BE A MATTER OF COMMUNITY ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, IN MANY, IN MANY WAYS, ALTHOUGH WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS AND SORT OF, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND RESOURCES AND, UM, IMPLEMENTABLE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL INCREASE THE CHANCES OF THIS PLAN ACTUALLY GETTING DONE AND ALSO GETTING UPDATED.
THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS AND I AM EXCITED TO SHARE, UM, THE DRAFT WITH YOU ALL LATER.
SO DID, DID YOU JUST COMMENT SOMETHING ABOUT MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE STILL TRYING TO PREDICT HOW? YEAH, SO WE, WELL, IT'S PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESSES IS PRETTY TYPICAL FOR CITY PLANS.
WE'VE CONVENED A TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUP OF CITY STAFF FROM BOTH DEPARTMENTS.
UM, AND I THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO HAVING COMMUNITY AWARENESS OF, AND SUPPORT FOR THE PLAN AND ITS RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, HAVING OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN NEW RECOMMENDATIONS INTO THEIR OWN PRACTICES AND THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN WORK PLANS WILL INCREASE THE CHANCES OF IT GETTING DONE.
UM, AND, AND HOPEFULLY, UM, REMAINING AN ACTIVE AND UPDATEABLE DOCUMENT NOT HAVING IT BE SILOED INTO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, WHICH DOES EXCELLENT WORK, BUT A VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF WORK.
SO THEN I GUESS JUST IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL OF KNOWING IF THERE'S A CITY DEPARTMENT THAT WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SPEARHEADING THIS
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IN TERMS OF, IF YOU'VE GOT ISSUES YOU CAN CALL ME AND THAT CAN DISSIPATE TO OTHERS, BUT THAT'S JUST, YEAH, THAT WILL BE IT'S.IT'S VERY, IT'S JUST VERY UNEASY, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE HEADS UP AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING PHASE ONE AND THE SUMMER.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S ATTENTION ON YOUR, I SAY ONE OTHER THING SINCE I HEARD THE OTHER COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO BACK, OKAY, COMMISSIONER WILDLY, THEN YOU CAN GO.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE QUICK THING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WISH THIS PROGRAM THE BEST OF LUCK, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED.
I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'VE SEEN WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN GENERAL, BUT THEN JUST THE CULTURAL RESOURCES AND POPULATION IS THAT THE CITY DOESN'T ACT IN UNISON.
AND, UH, UM, IT IS NOT BEHIND SOME OF THEIR PROGRAMS. CHARLIE, YOU KNOW, CITY POLITICS FOLLOWS THE MONEY AND THE MONEY DOESN'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROGRAM IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE, UH, I THINK IT HAS BRAIN GOALS AND IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.
AND I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN EFFORT TO HAVE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED, AND I HOPE THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, PAY ATTENTION AND LIKE COMMISSIONER ATTAIN A GUCCI SET, AND MAYBE IT MIGHT BE WAY TOO LATE FOR SOME OF THIS.
UH, BUT DEFINITELY I DON'T SEE THAT IT'S ANY FAULT OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE AS I SEASON MY SUBMISSION POSSIBLE A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH TRYING.
AND THAT IS A DISCIPLINE TO SAY HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET THE REST OF THE CITY INVOLVED BECAUSE IN MY, UH, THE CITY DOES AN ACT AND USE TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, SOMETIMES A SINGLE SITE, ONE THING, AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS WILL DO SOMETHING ELSE.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER CAN AGREE TO GO AHEAD.
JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE WHAT I SAID EARLIER AND THEN TAKE EVERYBODY ELSE'S COMMENTS IN CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, THE TRAIN LEFT THE STATION LONG TIME, GENTRIFICATION, NOT EVEN A TERM ANYMORE, IT'S ALL GONE.
I MEAN, NOW, NOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE TRY TO PRESERVE BUILDINGS, BUT PRESERVING BUILDINGS DOESN'T REALLY PRESERVE CULTURE.
SO I HOPE THAT WHEN WE MOVE ON, WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF CASES WHERE DEVELOPERS ARE TRYING TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT AND DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT THAT'S WHERE SOMEBODY, UH, I THINK BART MENTIONED IT.
SO DID MY, UH, COMMISSIONER MINORS IS MONEY TALKS.
SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THEIR PROJECT APPROVED OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OR WHEREVER IT IS, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT, BUT THEIR HEART NEEDS TO BE INTO IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE SEEN SO MANY PROJECTS AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER FRANCO AND COMMISSIONER MINERS HAVE BEEN REALLY OUTSPOKEN ABOUT PROJECTS ARE GOING ON FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE MORE ENTITLED FOLKS.
AND THEN THEY, THEY, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT SPEAK OUT.
AND I, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM IS THAT THIS HAS TO SPREAD FARTHER BEYOND JUST PRESERVING BUILDINGS THAT MIGHT PRESERVE CULTURE.
IT ALSO NEEDS TO PRESERVE EQUITY, OR IT NEEDS TO PROMOTE EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY MISSING.
AND IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO DO IN A CITY THAT'S IS POPULAR AND IT'S FAST GROWING IT'S ALSO NEEDED.
SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD WITH THAT TOO.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO COME OUT AND HEAR SOME, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER COMMENTS FROM US, BUT THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, IF I MAY, I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I JUST ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION, I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD ONE THAT WE'RE HAVING AND EVERYONE'S GOT SOME REALLY GOOD THOUGHTS.
UM, WHAT I CARE ABOUT WITH STRUGGLE.
WELL, WHAT I CARE ABOUT PRESERVING WHEN IT COMES TO CULTURE AND PLACE IS, UM, THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO THRIVE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO FOR ME.
UM, THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO CREATE MEMORIES, UM, TO CREATE PLACES THAT THEY FEEL LIKE A LOCAL PLACES THAT THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING THEIR, AND THEIR MEMORIES AS BEING SPECIAL.
AND TO ME, THAT'S NOT, UM, ANTI DENSITY AND THAT'S NOT ANTI NEW DEVELOPMENT.
LIKE WE CAN HAVE DENSITY, WE CAN HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT FOSTERS LIFE AND OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO THRIVE.
AND THAT FOSTERS MIXED INCOME LIKE INCLUSIVE OF IN FABRIC.
UM, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY MY PASSION AND THAT'S WHAT I LOOK FOR.
AND THAT'S WHAT I TRY TO CONTRIBUTE TO, UM, AS A, YOU KNOW, AS A AND THINGS LIKE THESE.
UM, AND AS A PROFESSIONAL, ANY TIME THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION CAN ALSO, UH,
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WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S NOT JUST THE BRICKS AND MORTAR.IT'S ABOUT ENSURING THAT WE CAN HELP US AND BE AFFORDABLE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND OFTENTIMES THAT LOOKS LIKE BUILDING MORE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INCLUDING IN THE CONVERSATION.
I THINK THAT'S EVERYBODY, UH, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTATION CARE OF ROUTE THREE SHADE.
[1.b. Briefing and discussion on the Downtown Density Bonus Program, 25-2-586, and the role of the Design Commission. City Staff: Jorge E. Rousselin. Jorge.rousselin@austintexas.gov]
TO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS.ONE B BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION ON THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.
I CAN'T EVEN TELL WHO'S VOICE.
COULD YOU COME UP A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO CAUSE IN THE ROOM AND SAY, OH, YOU SOUND DIFFERENT THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM FOR WHATEVER REASON I SAY THAT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME BETTER? CONDITIONAL CRITIQUE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
GIVE THIS A SHOT AND SEE IF WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION ITSELF.
PEDRO, THE PURPOSE OF THIS BRIEFING IS JUST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE BIG COMMISSIONERS ON THE COMMISSION.
IT SEEMS IN THE CHAIR SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DENSITY, MOST PROGRAM IT'S SPECIFICALLY
BUT FIRST OF ALL, I KIND OF WANT TO TAKE YOU BACK IN TIME TO TYPE IT
THAT IS WHERE SICKLE IS A DIFFERENT SEAT FULL OF WAREHOUSES.
IF YOU NOTICE THE TOP RIGHT COUNTRY, IF YOU SEE THE BARBECUE PLACE THERE BEGINNING.
TRUE, VERY GOOD BARBECUE AND ALL AREAS.
NOW, WHY AM I SHOWING THIS? IF IT'S AROUND 2000 AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE SKYLINE, OKAY.
MAYBE I HAVE TO TURN TO THE CENTURY 19 98, 99, 2000.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M ON AT THE TIME.
SOME OF US PROBABLY WON'T, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PHYSICAL TRANSFORMATION THAT DOWNTOWN HAS GONE THROUGH IT JUST THE LAST 21 YEARS.
SO WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHAT WAS CHRONICALLY THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE, PHYSICAL CHANGE AROUND THE HOUSE, AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WERE CHANGING PR
PRE-DEVELOPMENT COMBINING THE DISTRICT CURE FOR SHORT, WHICH HAD STATE SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WAITING CLOSE HER EYES IN THE DARK ROOM WITH NO LIGHTS, KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A HAND WITH FINGERS.
IT'S GOT HIS FINGERS KIND OF ALL OF THEM.
SO WE CALL THIS THE CURE EARLIER WITH THE THREE METERS EXTENDING TO HE'S POSITIVE, SECURE IS A VEHICLE BY WHICH CAN BE COMBINED WITH A VIRTUAL BASIS FOR DOWNTOWN THAT CAN MODIFY SITE STANDARDS MODIFIED FOR
JUST TO BE CLEAR, STILL IS IN THE LAND.
HOWEVER, AS WE STARTED TO EVALUATE INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT AND DENSITY DOWNTOWN,
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WE NEED TO GO BACK AND THINKING ABOUT OUR INTENSES.IT'S NOT LEGAL
OBVIOUSLY THIS REGULATION OR THIS CASE COUNCIL INACTIVE IS SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA FOR DOWNTOWN
AND IT WOULD OFFER A CLEARER IN
COUNCIL ALSO WANTED THE DOWNTOWN TO CONTINUE TO BE SUSTAINABLE FOR A ROAD AND PRESERVING ITS CULTURAL HERITAGE AS ICON FOR HISTORY, BUT ALSO FACTOR.
SO I WON'T BRING IT ON THIS TIMELINE, BUT STARTING FROM 2008, THERE WAS A SERIES OF ACTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING BY THE COUNCIL TO GAIN VIEWS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE DATA FLOWS INTO THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN IN 2011.
AND THAT'S ART IN CREATION OF COMMANDMENTS IN 13, WHICH ARE, WHICH ENDED UP BEING ARTISTS.
THEIR SYSTEM CHANGES IN 2014, THAT CREATED CHAPTER 45 TO 5 86, WHICH IS WHAT WE USE TODAY.
SO ABOUT LAST YEAR, THE PROGRAM REMAINED INTACT.
THE VERY LITTLE CHANGES IN HAITI AND WITH THE ORIGINAL CALIBRATION OF DEVELOPMENT, LOTUS IS CALCULATED AT THE TIME OF THIS COUNSEL DID MAKE A CHANGE THAT CEDAR TO TEMPORARILY MODIFY
HERE'S A TABLE THAT IS EMPTY WITHIN FOUR MINUTES
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW DESIGN CONDITION PLAYS A ROLE INTO THE SLEEP PROPERLY BECAUSE PLAYS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR.
AND IT'S ONE OF THE GATEKEEPER CONVICTS TO THIS COBRA.
LET'S THINK ABOUT WHERE THE CONCEIVABLE IS APART.
THERE ARE CERTAIN PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN WERE EXCLUDED FROM THE DECIBELS OR COMPETING PRODUCT WITH DISTRICT TO DISTRICT PUMPING ON OUR MARKET AREA.
AND ALSO THE NATIONAL REGISTER.
A CERTAIN DISTRICT SIXTH STREET PARIS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE DENSITY BLOCK.
THIS DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OTHER ELEMENTS THAT FOR EXAMPLE, THE CAPITOL VIEW FOR MOST CAPITAL DOMINANCE AND COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS HAVE BEEN APPLIED TO THE PROPERTIES OF ON FRENCH.
IF THERE'S ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, OBSTACLES, PROPERTIES TO SEE IN THE PICTURE HERE OF THE CAPITOL VIEW, OR OF COURSE, EVEN IN AREAS WHERE THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM APPLIES AND COULD GRANT ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS OF HEIGHT,
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROBLEM ARGUMENTS THAT
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SPECIFICALLY CAME TO KEEPER PARKS.AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE GATEKEEPER REQUIREMENTS THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND PROGRAM THAT COUNCIL PUT IN PLACE.
IT TALKS ABOUT SOME, SOME MAJOR ELEMENTS STARTS OFF WITH A SCHEMATIC LOCAL SITE PLAN.
IT'S NOT A FULL BLOWN SITE HIRED.
HOWEVER, IN SPEAKING WITH DESIGN TEAMS WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR ENGINEERING EXCELLENCE, ARCHITECTS, MOST OF THEM TOLD US THAT IT'S JUST AS EASY TO DO A FOOTBALL SEGMENT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T ANYWAY.
SO MOST OF THE TIME WE ARE SEEING A GREAT NUMBER OF SIGNING ON AND PROGRESS THAT ARE BEING PROCESSED.
THAT'S THE SECOND GATEKEEPER ELEMENT IS THAT A DESIGN COMMISSION, CHARLOTTE, VALERIE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR COMMITTING TO THE EXECUTION OF IT WAS PRINTED ACCOMMODATED TO IMPLEMENT
AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF SAY THIS WHEN YOU SEE EMPHASIZE ON THE SCREEN AS A STAFF, IF THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN, THEY CAN CODE IS JUST SO FIRST OF ALL, THE RENTER DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT'S SUBSTANTIALLY THE COMPLIANCE AND AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THAT HELPS.
AND YOU AFRICAN SHOWING THE DIRECTOR THREE, THE SITE OF ALL THE SCHEMATICS AND THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, AND ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING YOU SEEN FOR PANCAKE OR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, THE, THAT THE
THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE, ALL SPECIFICALLY THE DESIGN COMMISSION SHALL EVALUATE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT COMPLIANCE, THE PEOPLE IN DESIGN AND THE DIRECTOR OR STAFF SHALL CONSIDER COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THE EMPHASIS HERE IS THAT THE DESIGN CONDITIONS, SHELL
SO BY COLOR STACK, THIS REQUIRED TO CONSIDER YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN GALICIANS.
COUPLE OF THINGS, TO KEEP IN MIND THAT AS THE CONDITION IS EVALUATED, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE CODE AND THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM DOES NOT GRANT THE COMMISSION, THE ABILITY TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE PROJECTS, THIS CASE.
IT WILL BE A SITE DEVELOPMENT THAT HE WILL BE REVIEWING AS PART OF THE DECIMALS.
I ALSO WANT TO KNOW IF I CAN APPLY TO SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE OF NOT DEFINED IN THE LAND.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE LIE UPON.
THE COMMISSION LIKE GUIDANCE AND NAVIGATION, AS ONE OF YOU BELIEVE COMPLIANCE IS NOTE THAT THE DIRECTION FOR A SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE FALLS OFF STAFF, THE DIRECTION FOR COMPLIANCE THAT'S SO BASE VERDICT
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO COME OUT WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND FINDING ALL THESE REQUESTS WHEN THEY COME IN.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE AFTER IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COMMISSION TO COMPLIANCE OR NONCOMPLIANCE
HOWEVER, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN, IF I NEED TO, NONCOMPLIANCE HAS BEEN RENDERED BY PREVIOUS VIRTUALS OF THIS COMMISSIONER.
SO STAFF RELIES ON IDENTIFICATION OF SPECIFIC GUIDELINES THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO REACH THAT COMPLIANCE, FINDING WHAT IS THE PROJECT WE'RE ACTING IN TERMS OF SPECIFIC TIMELINES.
AND WE RELY ON THAT RECOMMENDATION SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMISSION WOULD FEEL CONSTITUTED IN COMPLIANCE.
WE HAVE
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BUT THOSE WOULD BE RECOMMENDATIONS ONLY, BUT NOT SUPERSEDE
WHEN THE FINDING IS NOT REACHED AT A COMMISSION, THEN THE STAFF CANNOT CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMISSION AND THE PROJECT THAT MOVES FORWARD WITH THE PAID STUFF.
WE'VE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND HOW THOSE ARE APPLIED TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT.
SO I WANT TO JUST KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHY WOULD ENCOMPASS ALONG WITH THE GATEKEEPER REQUIREMENTS, HOW COMMUNITY BENEFITS WILL BE BUYER AND SOMEONE BRINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION, A SPECIFIC SECTION OF THE DENSITY
SO 50% OF THE ADDITIONAL
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO WE'RE KIND OF WALKING THROUGH AN IMAGINARY BUILDING THAT HASN'T FOLLOWED THE ASSUMPTIONS.
AND ESSENTIALLY THE ORG DOWNTOWN IMAGINE REALLY CONGRESS.
I LOOK AT THE HEART OF THE QUORUM APART FROM DISTRICT JOBS.
SO MOST OF THE TIME, WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS DOES THAT PIECE ON TOWERS TYPICALLY INCLUDE A MIX OF OFFICE RESIDENTIAL, WHETHER THAT BE FOR SALE OR RENT, TYPICALLY THERE'S A PARKLAND POLIO, AND SOME GROUNDABLE PERSISTS.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT TO SCALE OR IT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU THE OVERALL PICTURE OF AN IMAGINARY BUILDING DICKIE.
SO WE START OFF WITH ESSENTIALLY THE BASE ENTITLEMENTS ON THE PROJECT.
IF A PROPERTY IS ON CPD, THERE IS NO HEIGHT LIMIT IN TERMS OF ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
HOWEVER, THERE'S A PAGE ONE OR AREA RATIO MIMICS THOSE AS BY, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHERE THE PROJECT ESSENTIALLY STARTS OUT IN THE DISTRICT.
IF THERE'S ALSO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE SLIDE, THAT IS THE DOWNTIME, THE CMOS ADMINISTRATIVE, THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT KIND OF WORK THROUGH NOT ONLY TO THE GATEKEEPER, BUT TO STAFF.
I THINK YOU CAN GET UP TO 25 TO ONE FOR EVERY OPERATION.
WE ALWAYS SAY ABOUT 25 TO ONE BECAUSE OF THE OBLIGATED FUNNY PATH BREAKS 44.8 6 9 5 2 8 0.5, BECAUSE IT COULD BE UP TO FIVE.
YOU COME BACK AND DO YOUR ASSIGNMENT.
SO WE SAY UP TO 25 PER PERIOD ISSUE, THERE IS SOME LIMITED HIKES, HOWEVER, THE LIBERTY FIVER ON HEIGHT OR THE PROPORTIONS OF THE SITE, OBVIOUSLY AS THE NUMBER OF FLOORS ARE FUNNY TO JUST KEEP GOING UP, ESSENTIALLY THE
SO WHEN LOOKING AT THE SPECIFIC PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU CALLED IT, A BONUS AREA, COMMUNITY BENEFITS ARE REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE THAT FLOOR AREA RATIO ABOVE THE BASICALLY IT'S THOSE COMMUNITY BENEFITS PROFOUNDLY 25 TO 25 MINUTES.
60 IS AN ECHO OF THE MONTH 12TH.
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THERE ARE PAINTED EPICS SPECIFIC IMMUNE BENEFITS LISTED.NUMBER 12 IS ESSENTIALLY ONE THAT THE APPLICANT CAN PROPOSE AND HE OR SHE NEEDS TO MAKE A CASE TO THE STAFF.
THAT RECORD HAS TO BE PROPOSED TO COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN THE CODE WOULD BE TRULY COMMUNITY BENEFIT AND HOW THAT WOULD BE APPLIED IN CALCULATED IN TERMS OF GRANTEE POST.
SO THE SECOND, ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST HALF OF THE FOCUS AREA IS REQUIRED TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE COMMUNITY PREFERENCE FOR A HOUSEKEEPER
THAT IS AN APARTMENT THAT HAS THE MOST AREA SET ASIDE FOR
IT'S THE DOORS THAT THERE'S ANOTHER APP STORE WAY TO GET THEIR COMMUNITY BASKETS.
SO WE LOOK AT THE OTHER HALF, THE REMAINING 50% OF THE BONUS, OR IT CAN BE MET WITH ANY OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS LISTED NUMBER.
HE WENT THROUGH 12, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE HOUSE.
SO AN APPLICANT MAY CHOOSE TO GO BACK TO THE HOUSE AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
MEANING HOW TO CALCULATE
THIS SPECIFIC FORMULAS THAT APPLY TO TEACH COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
TECHNICALLY THERE'S A NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET OR GRANTED FOCUSED AREA IN EXCHANGE FOR A NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET OF DAYCARE, COMMUNITY BENEFIT, PRESERVATION, OPENINGS, ONSITE, OR OFFSITE, OR THE POSITION OF OTHER PLUS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE CLASSES.
FOR EXAMPLE, AND STAFF REDUCE THOSE THROUGH THE INDUSTRY PROCESS AND BE ABLE TO GENERATE NOT ONLY THE FORMULA, BUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BONUS PERIOD THAT CAN'T BE GRANTED.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE MAYOR NOT ONLY HAVE THE
IT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTIONS THAT BOTTOM BLUE PLUS THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS CLIENT CB, OR THE TOTAL APPLYING BONUS AREA UP TO THE
AND YOU HAVE CAN REALLY CHOOSE TO GO BACK AND USE THE AFFORDABLE COST TO ACHIEVE THE ADDITIONAL BOOKS.
I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW MUCH STAFF RELIES ON THE CONDITIONS EVALUATION RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER THESE DENSITY WANTS PROJECTS, BECAUSE WE LITERALLY OUR EXPERTISE AND REVELATION AS TO HOW TO COME TO A FINDING OF SUBSTANTIAL BALANCE.
AT THIS POINT, COUNSEL CONTINUES TO MAKING THE PROGRAM MINISTRY, THE PROGRAM.
THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE CODE UNDER
THE ABILITY TO INCREASE RACIAL ENTANGLEMENTS BEYOND WHAT IS LISTED IN THE LIMITS OF PEOPLE TRAINING.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU
YOU SEE THIS ICE 32,
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AS NEEDED.
THANK YOU CHECKS MY, MY OWN MENTAL MATH, THE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING COLOR AND THE, UM, COMMUNITY BENEFIT COLOR.
THE DEVELOPER STILL PAYS THE DENSITY BONUS FEES FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
SO ALL OF THE BLUE AREA, PLUS THE RED
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AREA, ORANGE AND RED AREA, THEY GET CHARGED FOR EXTRA SQUARE FOOTAGE.ACCORDING TO THIS CHARGE, GO TO CORRECT CHOOSING ON A GRAND AREA TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE RED AREA CHARITABLE IN THE RED, IT, THEY BE THE PROPER OR THE
IF THEY WISH TO CONTINUE EXERCISING OR POSSIBLY BENEFIT, OTHERWISE GO BACK TO THE LIST OF SPECIFIC
WELL, THE MATH I WANT TO CHECK MY PEOPLE BACK IS EVEN IF THEY'RE PROVIDING THOSE BENEFITS AT BOSSES PAPERS, ALL THAT THEY'RE STILL PAYING IN, THAT WAS CORRECT TO THE DENSEST.
SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING THERE AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY IT'S FREE, BUT I'M, THEY'RE STILL PAYING THE FUN NO MATTER WHETHER THEY DO THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS OR REALLY NOT.
I KNOW CAUSE THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS.
I'M JUST SAYING THEY'RE ALMOST TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS THAT THE FEE IS SET, RIGHT? YOU PAY THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU, WHATEVER THE CONDITION AGREES IS ADEQUATE RECEIVE IT.
THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE FORMULA.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. I WOULDN'T SAY TO A CERTAIN POINT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THE BLUE PORTION, WHICH IS THE FIRST 30% THAT SAID, I WANT TO SKI AS WELL AS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THAT FIRST PERCENT, THE NEXT 50%, USUALLY THERE'S NOT ENOUGH COMMUNITY MANIFESTS THAT THE PROJECT WE DO TO MAKE UP THE FULL OTHER 50%.
SO MOST OF THE TIME POST PROJECTS IN A PAID FEED OR CONSIDERING ONSITE UNITS, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE PROGRAMS, I JUST THINK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO BE A WINNER THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS TO WHETHER THEY CREATE OPEN SPACE, PAPERS, ACTUAL LANDSCAPING, WHATEVER THEY'RE PAYING FOR THAT.
PLUS THEY'RE PAYING INTO THE FEE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME MISSES.
THEY GET AS IF THEY'RE GETTING SOMETHING.
I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN ARGUE WHETHER THE VALUES ARE THE SAME.
I'M JUST SAYING THERE IS THE ADDITIONAL COST, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO FOR THE BENEFITS YOU GET OUT OF IT.
BUT THEY ARE GETTING SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES.
OTHER QUESTIONS SINCE I'M STILL ON THAT, IF I'M LOOKING AT A CHART THAT I RECEIVED THAT HAD THE DENSITY BONUS FEES AND 2014, FIVE FOR RAINY CBD, 10 RESIDENTIAL, NOT CBD URANIUM, THREE COMMERCIAL ZERO AND ZERO, RIGHT? THE TEMPORARY FEES WERE FIVE 12 AND THE CBD TENANT RAINY 18 FOR COMMERCIAL CBD AND 12 COMMERCIAL NOT CBD.
AND THOSE WERE INTERIM TEMPORARY FEES.
UH, THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS WERE VERY SIMILAR EXCEPT THEY GAVE A RANGE FOR COMMERCIAL, LIKE THREE TO 18 OR 12 BECAUSE OF THE ORIGINAL FINDINGS BY STAFF CAME IN FOR COMMERCIAL ABOUT $2 50 CENTS.
SO THEY KIND OF ROUND IT UP TO THREE.
AND THEN THE OCTOBER FEES THAT WERE SHARED WITH THIS COMMISSION FOR TWO 50, A SQUARE FOOT FOR CBD AND COMMERCIAL OP CBD, TWO 50 A SQUARE FOOT.
AND THE RESIDENTIALS LANDED AS A 1750 FOR RAINY 24.
SO UP FROM, UH, FROM $10 TO 2014 TO 24 AND 2022 AND THREE TO 16.
SO I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS.
I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GIVE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS KIND OF A UPDATE OF WHERE WE WERE, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE STILL IN TEMPORARY FEE LAND.
MY COMMISSIONER AT THE RISK OF SPOILING WAS COMING STEP IS SLATED TO COME BACK TO YOU, PRESENT THE RATIONALE FOR WHAT REPEATING MERGING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF IS WHERE SKITCH APP SEND SOMETHING.
OUR TEAM IS WORKING ON TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS CHANGES OR
SO MY LAST QUESTION MATH IS, HAVE YOU HAD AN APPLICANT
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COME IN AT $24 WORKFLOW IT YET SINCE THE TEMPORARY FEES? NOT IN THE KNOWLEDGE.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND FOR PRESENTING MY PRESENTATION.
UM, I HAVE TWO QUESTION COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER WEAVER.
I'M GONNA NEED YOU PART OF THIS IS ONE I'M CURIOUS, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW COMMISSIONERS MOVING FORWARD, AND SOME OF US WILL BE LEAVING THAT, IS THERE SOME WAY THAT YOU CAN TAG A PROJECT TO SAY THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR HAVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ON SITE? WHAT THAT MEANS? I DON'T ESSENTIALLY KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE MATH, WHEN IT COMES TO JUST ALL OF THE COMPLICATED VARIABLES THAT I'LL, YOU KNOW, I LISTENED TO COMMISSIONER WEAVER REFERRED TO SOMETIMES THAT SINCE I'M NOT IN THE DEVELOPER WORLD, I'M NOT SURE AS A CIVILIAN THAT COULD BE HELPFUL.
I DON'T KNOW IF POLITICALLY THAT COULD BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, BOMBARDMENT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, LIKE THIS PARTICULAR ONE COULD BE MORE ELIGIBLE FOR HOUSING, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL UNITS ONSITE.
AND THEN MY SECOND COMMENT IS, IS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
AND THIS IS FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IS THAT WE HAVE TO, WE'RE HERE TO WE'RE THE STEWARDS OF THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
AND WHEN PROJECTS COME IN, THAT THIS IS ABOUT, DO THEY COME DO THE PROJECTS COMPLY WITH THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES? AND I THINK WHAT IS CHALLENGING SOMETIMES IS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE BRINGING UP TO APPLICANTS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES AS THEY ARE LAID OUT.
THOSE ISSUES ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
THEY'RE VERY PERTINENT, BUT IT HAS BEEN FRUSTRATING TO GO THROUGH ROUNDS AND ROUNDS AND ROUNDS ON THESE OF ISSUES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT MOVING FORWARD, THOUGH, I APPRECIATE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
I'M GOING TO PUT FORWARD TO THOSE COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE SHARE WHICH URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINE GUIDELINES THAT THIS DOES NOT COMPLY WITH.
THEREFORE, THE PROJECT IS NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO THAT WAS JUST MORE OF A STATEMENT.
SO, SO COMMISSION WHERE YOU WERE, CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHICH PROJECTS ARE GOOD FOR, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ONSITE OR DOES THAT MAKE SENSE BETWEEN YOU AND YES.
IF I MAY,
AND I, I WILL JUST COMMENT, I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SHARE MOVING FORWARD WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
IF YOU ARE CHOOSING TO SAY THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT COMPLIANT TO THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES AS WILL I BE PREPARED TO OUTLINE WHAT GUIDELINES THAT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH.
THE DEPARTMENT ORIGINALLY COMMISSIONER STAFFORD, OR KINDLY ASKED YOU TO COME BACK TO THE URBAN DESIGNER AFTER HER DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE REQUEST OR THE MANDATE OF THE CODE IS THAT THE CONDITION COUPLE OF FINDING
AND SO STAFF CANNOT BE IN A POSITION TO TELL YOU TO NOT DISCUSS CERTAIN THINGS THAT IS, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME BACK TO THE CONFERENCE.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT AT THE TOP, EVERY ITEM GUIDELINES ARE EQUAL WEIGHT.
SO I'VE SEEN CASES WHERE I WOULD SAY IT WAS NOT IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE, JUST ONE OR TWO THINGS BEING, UH, AT COMPLIANCE OR NOT BEING SUFFICIENTLY COMPLIANT.
I THINK THE ATM REALIZE THAT NOT EVERY, UH, ITEM, RIGHT, AND NOT EVERY KIND OF BAND OF PEOPLE THAT POSSIBLE HAVE TO WEIGH COMMUNITY BENEFIT ALL TOO OFTEN.
I'VE SEEN MYSELF VOTING FOR A PROJECT AFTER HAVING DISCUSSED THE PLACEMENT OF CHAIRS AND, UH, UH, DECK OF THE PROJECT AND
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TO GIVE ANY, UH, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET FOR THOSE CHAIR, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENCRUSTED IN JUUL ENTITLEMENTS.SO, UH, YOU KNOW, MY TWO THINGS, BUT YEAH, AS TWO THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED, SOME THAT COULD BE GOOD GOALS MOVING FORWARD IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO WITH THE PROGRAM, THAT PROGRAM AND KEEP IT FOCUSED ON THAT? I THINK IT'S EASY TO KIND OF GET INTO, TO SUPPORT FOOT CANOPY, SHADE, OR WALKERS THAT NEED TO BE SIX FEET, OR IS IT $10 A SQUARE FOOT OR 11 OR $12 A SQUARE FOOT.
BUT IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, MY INTEREST IN A LOT OF THIS IS, IS THE MONEY THAT IS COLLECTED THE FEE IN LIEU.
B'S EFFECTIVELY HOW IT'S BEING SPENT.
MOST OF IT GOES TOWARDS THE OUTDOORS AS GREAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THAT IS NOT WITH PALISADE.
IT'S STILL GOT TO BE BUILT AND THERE'S THERE OTHER WAYS TO PROVIDE THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CITY, YOU KNOW, BUILD, DEVELOP THEIR OWN PROJECTS ON CITY PLAN AS AN EXAMPLE.
AND, AND THEN THE, UH, THE LAST TIME THINKING ABOUT IT AS A GOAL OF, WE ALWAYS SEE HOW THOSE PROJECTS THAT LIKE TO PAY A FEE INSTEAD OF PROVIDING FOR A ON SITE.
AND WHY IS THAT? WHAT CAN BE DONE TO INCENTIVIZE MORE FOR THE POLICY ON SITE? THOSE ARE THE TWO KIND OF GOALS.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING PEOPLE HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE FEE TABLES.
I THINK WE'LL NEVER GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF WE LIVE UP TO THOSE NUMBERS.
BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER, THE BLOB OF IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST COME OUT, IT SHOULD HAVE JUST COME OUT AND SAID, HEY, WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE WAY WE REVIEW THESE.
I MEAN, I FELT LIKE I WAS GOING THROUGH THE SECOND GRADE.
I MEAN, I KNOW MOST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE LOOK AT THESE, UH, PROJECTS AND ALL, I THINK THAT THE CONTROVERSIAL PARTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN POINTED OUT AND NOT JUST SKIRTED AROUND AND SAYING, HEY, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT IN THE WAY THAT HE PRESENTED IT.
AND, AND I HAVE TO ALSO SAY WE'RE VOLUNTEERS AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO SPEAK UP AT THESE MEETINGS AND THEY HAVE OTHER ISSUES BESIDES WHAT'S IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINE, THEY SHOULD BE LISTENED TO, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SHOULD BE RESPECTED IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IF A DEVELOPER COMES BACK, WHICH I HEARD THAT HAPPENED ON ONE OF THE LAST PROJECTS WE LOOKED AT, THEY CAME BACK TO YOU JORGE AND THEY DISAGREED WITH THE APPROACH WE TOOK IN.
APPARENTLY YOU REVERSE OUR DECISION AND THAT'S FINE, THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT I THINK AS VOLUNTEERS WE SHOULD BE HEARD AND WE SHOULD ALSO BE NOTIFIED WHEN OUR DECISION IS GOING TO BE OVERTURNED.
I FELT LIKE A SECOND GRADER GOING THROUGH LIKE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ABOUT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, UH, DURING YOUR PRESENTATION.
BUT, UM, I WISH IT COULD BE MORE DIRECT.
SHE, JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE, THERE WAS RECOMMENDATION OVERTURNED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO STAFF MOVES FORWARD WITH THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATION, WHICH DID, UH, RECOMMENDS COMPLIANCE.
SO CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? SO THE WORKING GROUP ACTUALLY HAS THE FINAL SAY, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? IF THERE IS NO RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WHOLE, NO RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, THEN ALL STAFF HAS TO GO ON IS THE WORD OF THE GROUP.
CAUSE I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY THREE OF US OR TWO OF US, YOU KNOW? AND THEN WHEN THAT CAN OVERRIDE THE DECISION OF THE FULL COMMISSION, TO ME, IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNFAIR TO BE CLEAR, IT DIDN'T OVERRIDE THE DECISION.
THE COMMISSION DIDN'T MAKE A DECISION.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NO RECOMMENDATION AND RECOMMENDING THAT IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE GUIDELINES.
WE DIDN'T VOTE THAT IT DID NOT COMPLY.
WE JUST COULD NOT TELL THEM TO RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING I WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT.
UH, AND, AND JUST TO COMMENT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE KNOWS WE ARE UPDATING THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS WHERE THERE ARE ISSUES THAT FALL OUTSIDE, THE CURRENT GUIDELINES THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND PERHAPS BRING THOSE ISSUES TO THE NEW GUIDELINES.
SO BEFORE WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO AS LONG AS NOT A MATH, I'LL STAY
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ON IT.UH, THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THE MAP IS I SENSE A GENERAL FATIGUE AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT'S EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME, BUT I THINK IT'S A NEW LEVEL.
THAT'S NOT SO MUCH THE FEES INCREASING, ALTHOUGH THAT IS RECENT FOR THE SYMPTOMS OF ABOUT TO DESCRIBE.
BUT IT'S THE NOT HEARING BACK ON HOW THESE THINGS ARE BEING REALIZED.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO BE TAXED OR PAY FEES.
THERE'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT KNOWING WHERE THAT MIGHT HAVE ENDED UP THAT IT DID GOOD AND I'M REPRESENTING REALLY MY CLIENTS THAT ASKED ME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AS I SIT HERE OR AS I SIT AS A PAST WEEK A CHAIR AND HOW THAT GOING TO BE AN UTILIZE IS GOING WELL, WHERE'S THAT HERE IT'S TREE FUND MONEY.
AND I JUST THINK I HATE TO USE THE TERM TRANSPARENCY, BUT REALLY MORE JUST REVERSED COMMUNICATION.
YOU KNOW, W WE'RE FEEDING ALL KINDS OF COMMUNICATIONS DISPLAY.
I THINK WE'RE ALL IN OUR HEARTS FUNDED TO GOOD, MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER.
AND THE DEVELOPERS AND THE PEOPLE THAT BUILD, WHETHER IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR 75 FOOT TALL, HIGH-RISE, THEY'RE THE ONES PAYING THESE FEES AND THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW THEY DON'T GET THE FEEDBACK.
OR YOU FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU ASK, YOU DON'T REALLY FIND OUT OR IT'S NOT JUST READILY COMING.
SO LOU DID YOU USE, I KNOW I'M JUST STATING A PODIUM THAT REALLY HAS MADE A BIGGER, I'D LOVE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF HERE'S WHERE YOUR DOLLARS ARE GOING BECAUSE PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES ARE GOT TO COME UP AGAIN.
AND, AND WE'RE NOT NOTIFIED OF THAT.
I MEAN, UNLESS IT'S CITIZENS MEAN IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN, UH, SEVEN SOMEONE WILL DISAGREE WITH ME AND SAY, IT'S JUST GOING TO COME FROM THE DIOCESE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS, BUT WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
THAT HAPPENS ACTUALLY DOES HAPPEN SAME WAY.
JUST LET'S HEAR HOW THIS MONEY'S BEING USED WOULD BE GREAT.
AND AS YOU KNOW, HE DID HAVE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO CHANGE THE DENSITY DOWNTOWN, REGARDLESS.
AND, UH, HOW ABOUT SIGNS OF USE WAS ONE OF THEM AND YOU ARE STILL PUSHING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, COMPETENCY, SOMETHING KICKED OVER TO YOUR 12, 12, 24 WITHOUT GETTING SOMETHING BACK, EVEN IF THAT SAME SUMMATION WITHOUT PEOPLE GETTING UPSET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I GOT A QUICK, QUICK, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATED THE PRESENTATION TODAY.
IT WAS NICE TO GET A REFRESHER ON HOW IT ALL WORKS.
UM, IT WAS REALLY CLEARLY LAID OUT.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, I THINK THE POINT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT JUST BEING A LITTLE BIT MINDFUL OF WHAT, JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE, EVEN IF IT'S JUST THE PERSON WHO'S TAKING NOTES, IT WOULD HELP TO SAY LIKE, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE NOT COMPLYING WITH REGARDING MY COMMENT.
AND I I'M A BIG CULPRIT CAUSE I KINDA JUST WAX POETIC ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT I THINK ABOUT A PROJECT, UM, WITHOUT TYING IT TO ANY KINDS OF, UM, ACTUAL DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO I'LL TRY TO BE MORE MINDFUL OF THAT.
UM, AND UM, I THINK ANYONE CAN FEEL FREE TO ASK ME TO CLARIFY, UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I'M, IF I'M THINKING THAT SOMETHING'S NOT COMPLIANT, THEN ASK ME TO CLARIFY WHAT, WHAT GUIDELINE IT IS SPECIFICALLY SO THAT WE CAN ALL JUST SORT OF HAVE A VERY CLEAR CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, JUST TO CONCLUDE FROM
THE DADS SAY PINK APPROACH SET.
THE CONDITION CAN LOOK AT IN TERMS OF
TALKING ABOUT THE FLIP SIDE, IF A PROJECT IS EFFICIENT, THE CLIENTS THAT WAS WHERE WE LOOKED AT, UT
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DALLAS IS VALIDATION AND RECORD SO WE CAN WORK WITH, AND I THINK YOU'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF PROJECTS AS OF LATE THAT HAVE CONSIDEREDSO AS FAR AS
THE PERFECT SYSTEM IS A LOT OF WORK OR FOR NOW IT'S THE BEST WE CAN HAVE IT.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE COLLABORATING THIS COMMISSION.
I THINK THE ONE I'M THINKING SORT OF PRESENTATION.
[2.a. Approval of the February 28th meeting minutes]
THE NEXT ITEM TO A GOOGLE OF THE SEPARATE 28 MINUTES.JUST MEAN TO MAKE IT CORRECTION.
UM, I AM TO A, THE TITLE SAYS, UH, THE JANUARY 28TH MEETING MINUTES AND IT SHOULD REGENERATE 24.
I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO, OH, THEY'RE CALLING SECOND.
IT'S STILL VALID, BUT ALL RIGHT.
[2.b. Changes to Design Commission Working Groups membership]
NEXT ITEM TO BE CHANGED TO THE DESIGN COMMISSION WORKING GROUP MEMBERSHIP.UH, SO I AM GOING TO APPOINT A COMMISSIONER MINERS TO PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN OR FOR OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.
EVERYONE ELSE STILL STAY ON THAT.
THAT'S A SATISFIED, ALL RIGHT.
[2.c. Discussion and Possible Action on recent Council approval to update the Urban Design Guidelines]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON COUNCIL TO THE UPDATED URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.UH, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD A WHOLE LOT TO TALK ABOUT.
THE WORKING GROUP HAS BEEN MEETING AND WE HAVE A DRAFT NARRATIVES TOGETHER, UH, BUT WE'LL KEEP THE COMMISSION UP TO DATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BUT THERE'S NOTHING REALLY TO SHARE AT THIS TIME.
UH, DO YOU THINK THIS SUMMER WE'LL BE FORMING THE WORKING GROUPS OR THE ADVISORY GROUPS AND BE ASKING OR OTHER DESIGN COMMISSIONERS TO DISSIPATE IN THE PROCESS AT THAT TIME? I'M SURE.
I BELIEVE YOU HAD A GOOD QUESTION.
THAT'S APRIL 1ST WE INVITED MEMBERS.
THE PATIENTS WOULD BE ROTATING THROUGH, BUT TRACE EXAMPLES LIKE
[2.d. Update from representative on the Downtown Commission regarding last meeting]
I HAD A TWO D UPDATE FROM REPRESENTATIVE ON THE DOWNTOWN MISSION REGARD LAST MEETING.UM, OUR LAST MEETING WAS CANCELED BECAUSE OF SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST TO
[2.e. Update from representative on the Joint Sustainability committee regarding last meeting]
UPDATE FROM REPRESENTATIVE OR THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE REGARDING LAST MEETING.OUR MEETING WAS ACTUALLY PUSHED TO LATER THIS WEEK.
[2.f. Update from representative on the South-Central Waterfront Advisory Board]
TO F UPDATE FROM REPRESENTATIVE ON SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.OUR MEETING WAS CANCELED DUE TO THE INCLEMENT WEATHER.
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I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, THREE[3.b. Items from Commission Members;]
ITEMS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS OUT LATER.ARE WE PERMANENTLY
A CHALLENGE WAS TO ALLOW OR HYBRID NGS IS VERTICAL THE PERSON, BUT I AGREE COUNCIL COMMITTED TO CHANGE IN THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE PROCEEDING PRESENT THE PRECEDENT TO THE VICE CHAIR FOR ANOTHER APPOINTED COMMISSIONER BY THE CHAIRS ESSENTIALLY MANAGED.
SO THIS CONTINUES TO BE AN OPTION IS STILL NEEDED OR SAYS THAT
THEREFORE, WHEN THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE OF COMPLETELY AS THE CHRISTIAN SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE HORRIBLE FAVOR OF HIDING COMBINED WITH
SO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PREACH OR INVOLVE THESE BEING ONE OF THE SIX COMMISSIONERS.
YOU HAVE ONLY SIX COMMISSIONERS, YOU RUN THE RISK OF HAVING A HORN PUB
SO I DIDN'T RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO HAVE A SPRINKLE OPTION THAT IS BAIT ON PROBLEM
HOW MANY VOTES I NEEDED FOR A QUORUM VOTE? SO SEX IN FAVOR OF X OR Y.
AND DO WE NEED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN PERSON TO REACH OR IS IT JUST, UM, PRESENT IT TO MAKE SURE GOOD.
EIGHT OR MORE THAT GIVES YOU THAT QUESTIONS WILL ALLOW COASTERS ABLE TO
IT'S VERY CHALLENGING FOR ME TO HEAR YOU GUYS.
UM, THIS IS GREAT, BUT WE'VE GOT AIR CONDITIONING GOING ON, THINGS IN THE HALLWAY, LIKE THINGS HERE.
SO IF ALL, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT OUT THERE.
IF WE COULD SHOW UP IN PERSON, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I WISH OUR APPLICANTS COULD AS WELL.
THAT WAS, IT'S JUST, IT'S CHALLENGING TO HEAR YOU AS WELL.
I WONDER IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE THE HYBRID OPTION WORK BETTER.
UM, WHETHER IT'S THE SPEAKER SYSTEM OR, UM, POINT POINT DEFINITELY HEARD THE, UM, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A HYBRID, LIKE I WONDER IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALSO LOOK INTO TO MAKE THAT, TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO ALL HEAR EACH OTHER BETTER.
I'M HERE, I'M IN A FEW INSTANCES WHERE I'VE SHOWN UP, UH, AND WE DIDN'T REACH QUORUM AND I'M TRANS INDEPENDENT.
SO FOR ME THAT, UH, REPRESENTS A LARGER HURDLE.
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UM, SO THAT'S MY REASON FOR CHOOSING TO OPT FOR WORKING REMOTELY WHEN I HAVE THE OPTION.YES
ALL OF YOU THEN PROVIDE TO OUR
SO JUST FOR CLARITY, UM, WHEN WILL YOU BE REVIEWING THE UPDATE OF THE DENSITY BONUS FEED CALIBRATION CHAIRMAN
UM, YEAH, I HAD SPENT ALMOST SIX MONTHS SINCE WE HEARD ABOUT THAT AND, UH, JUST A RECOMMENDATION ON THE PRESENTATION FORMAT.
UM, I APPRECIATE THERE, AT LEAST WITH THE MODEL THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU DO WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE TROIS, BUT WITH, UM, THE RELEASE OF THE FINDINGS, I THINK IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO SHOW PDF CELLS, UM, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SHOW HOW YOU USE THE MODEL.
SO LIKE IT'S KIND OF LIKE GIVING A CALCULATOR VERSUS KIND OF GIVING, UM, A CLOSING INSTEAD OF OF THE STATEMENT.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO RUN A FEW SCENARIOS AND GIVE THEM MODELS STILL FOR EACH OF THOSE TWO SCENARIOS.
SO WE CAN SEE THAT IT DOES FUNCTION.
UM, AND, AND WITH THAT, WE WANT TO SEE THE INPUTS AND THE OUTPUTS AND THE FULL PROFILE.
THAT'S HOW I WOULD EXPECT TO REVIEW IT.
UM, WHEN I, WHEN I'M REVIEWING SOMEONE ELSE'S FROM PROGRAM.
[3.c. Items from City Staff;]
TO THREE C ITEMS FOR CITY STAFF, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.CHAIR, LOOKING AT THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU'RE COMING TO THE END OF THE ERA.
IT'S TAKEN A STANFORD PERSON TO COME BACK ON RETIREMENT, DO THAT.
SO
SO PLEASE SHARE
IT IS 7 34 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.