Apr 04, 2022 Music

ALL RIGHT, MAN.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR MUSIC WITH US.

THIS IS, I FELT LIKE THIS ENTIRE WEEK HAS BEEN A TOTAL DELIGHT FOR US.

I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BOOKED A PRETTY INTERNATIONAL LINEUP AND I KNOW YOU'RE HERE IN AUSTIN RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU STARTED STARTED LIFE IN KAMPALA AND UGANDA.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PLAYING THIS THE LINEUP THE DAY AFTER THE MONGOLIAN FELLOWS CAME IN AND PLAYED SOME MONGOLIAN THROAT SINGING METAL.

SO IT'S JUST, IT FEELS A LOT LIKE THE GLOBAL SOCIETY THAT THE INTERNET HAS PROMISED US.

AND IT'S TOTALLY, THAT WAS SO GREAT.

THAT WAS THE EXTRAORDINARY PICK.

THANK YOU, PATRICE.

AND I DEFINITELY WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO FIND THE REST OF THAT VIDEO AND WATCH THAT ENTIRE INTERVIEW.

I'M SURE IT'S A REALLY EXCELLENT, SO THAT WAS OUR PICK FROM DISTRICT NINE, KATHY TOWBOATS DISTRICT BEING RE-UPPED ON THE COMMISSION BY PATRICE PIKE.

SO NEXT MONTH WE'RE UM, GRAHAM, THE MAYOR'S POINTY.

IT'LL BE YOUR PICK.

SO GRAHAM CAN PICK FROM THE CITY.

WHOOPS.

SO LOTS OF, LOTS OF CHOICES THERE.

UM, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL NEXT MONTH.

COUNCIL, WOMAN ALTAR.

I FORGOT ABOUT YOU FOR A SEC.

CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IN-PERSON

SO YEAH.

THANK YOU, STEPHANIE, FOR, UH, KEEPING US IN LINE ON THAT.

UM, SO

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

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CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT CALLED IN? DOES IT LOOK LIKE IT? OKAY, AWESOME.

WELL, I, UH, I HAVE SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE, UM, WHICH IS THE, THIS IS, UM, STAFF LIAISON, STEPHANIE BACARAS LAST MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.

WE WILL MISS HER A LOT.

SHE, UH, HAS A TON OF COOL STUFF GOING ON IN HER LIFE, UM, INCLUDING LEADING BITTY, BITTY BHANDA AND THEN ALSO SHE HAS A NEW GIG, UM, COMING UP.

THAT'S REALLY COOL.

I DON'T KNOW IF CAN I SAY, OKAY, SHE IS GOING TO BE JOINING, UH, THE STAFF AT WATERLOO GREENWAY, A HANDFUL HELPING WITH PROGRAMMING.

AND I KNOW SHE'S JUST GOING TO DO AN AMAZING JOB, SO THAT IS PERFECT FOR HER.

AND THAT IS LUCKY FOR ALL OF US IN AUSTIN, EXCEPT FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND STAFF.

CAUSE WE, WE REALLY RELY ON OUR STAFF TO, I MEAN, THEY DO A TON BEHIND THE SCENES, SO WE WILL MISS HER A BUNCH.

UH, BUT I HAVE A FEELING WE'LL BE IN TOUCH CAUSE YOU'RE STILL DOING COOL STUFF FOR THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MINUTES.

SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I, UH, I GO QUICK.

YEAH, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I SEEN IT.

I MAYBE I'M TRIPPING CAUSE I GOT A BABY BRAND.

SO THIS, THIS IS ALSO POSSIBLE, BUT UM, I THOUGHT WE RECOMMENDED AND VOTED TO, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY ABOUT, UH, THE FUNDING, THE APPLICATIONS AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD THE VOTE.

CORRECT.

WE, I, WE DID SEND UP A RECOMMENDATION TO INCREASE DISASTER RELIEF.

SO KIM'S GOING TO JUMP IN AND CLARIFY AS FAR AS YEAH.

OH GOOD.

MY MIKE'S WORKING.

UM, SO YEAH, I CAN EXPLAIN, UH, THERE WAS ONE RECOMMENDATION THAT WENT UP AND THAT WAS FOR THE MUSICIAN, UH, UM, FEE FOR THE, THE CITY, UM, MUSICIAN, UM, PAY.

AND THE OTHER ONE, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT WASN'T, UH, THE, THE MOTION WAS MADE WITHOUT THERE BEING AN AGENDA ITEM ATTACHED TO THAT.

AND SO WE COULDN'T GO FORWARD WITH SENDING THAT UP, BUT IT'S ON THE AGENDA THIS TIME.

SO WE CAN, IF YOU CAN MOVE THAT MOTION UP TO THIS THIS MONTH AND THEN WE CAN DO IT, BUT WE COULDN'T ATTACH IT TO AN AGENDA ITEM.

IT WAS DEALING WITH A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY THAN WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM ON THE BUDGET WAS TALKING ABOUT.

SO IT DIDN'T FIT.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T MAKE MOTIONS ON, UH, ON ITEMS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE'LL, WE CAN ENTERTAIN IT ON THIS ONE.

SO WE'LL DO IT UNDER OLD BUSINESS FOR BUDGET KIM, IS THAT WHAT WE'LL DO THE OFFICIAL? UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF IN PARTICULAR.

UH, AND SO THERE IS AN ITEM THAT'S AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF IN OLD BUSINESS.

WELL, LET'S SEE, IT'D BE ITEM 10 NEW BUSINESS ACTUALLY.

AND THAT WOULD BE BEAT THREE BEAT.

OKAY, AWESOME.

SO YES, WE WILL CIRCLE BACK TO THAT, BUT YEAH, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT THING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO.

WE DOT ALL OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S ON THAT ONE.

UH, SO OTHER THAN THAT, UH, ARE WE GOOD TO MOVE AHEAD TO MOTION? TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, SO WE NEED A SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A SECOND.

I THINK COMMISSIONER METTA CHARLA ONE THAT RICE.

UH, OKAY.

SO EVERYBODY IN FAVOR.

SO WE HAVE STAFF BRIEFING, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM BY KCU BIAS, PROGRAM MANAGER, SMALL BUSINESS DIVISION OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

I THINK THAT IS ALL OF US.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

[2. STAFF BRIEFINGS]

AND I JUST HEARD THE OUT ON THE WAY OVER HERE ON KCI.

SO GO AHEAD.

IS CASEY, DO YOU WANT EVERYBODY TO HEAR ME? WE CAN.

UM, FINALLY, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT FINALLY ABLE TO UNMUTE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THE HOST IS KEEPING ME NEAR THAT THE WHOLE TIME.

SO TIM, IS MY PRESENTATION AVAILABLE THERE OR SHOULD I SHARE MY SCREEN OR WHAT COULD YOU SHARE YOUR SCREEN? OKAY.

I'LL DO THAT.

IT'S A DIFFERENT LAYOUT THAT I'M USED TO.

HERE'S MY OPTION FOR SHARING

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LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO SAY IT NOW.

THAT JUST FOR CREATIVES, THEY NEED HELP WITH, UM, THE SAME THING ABOUT A MUSICIAN BUSINESS NEEDED ASSISTANCE WITH HEALTH.

SO THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM WAS JUST LAUNCHED VERY NEW PROGRAM.

IT IS, UH, FUNDED IT, IT WAS, UH, CREATED BOTH OR, UH, PUT TOGETHER BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

IT IS FUNDED BY ARPA MONEY, THE AMERICAN, UH, I'M SORRY, IT'S FUNDED THROUGH ARPA.

UH, PART OF THE CITY'S ALLOCATION OF ARCA FUNDS, THE MS. AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, AND IT IS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THREE CATEGORIES, UH, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, NONPROFITS AND GREATER PROFESSIONALS, UH, EXPERIENCING HARDSHIPS CREATED BY THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

BASICALLY THE OVERVIEW WOULD BE THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, HAS CREATED PARTNERSHIPS.

WE'RE CALLING THEM OUR NAVIGATORS, OUR COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I'LL HAVE A LIST OF THEM A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN IN THE PRESENTATION AND A CLIENT.

WE, WE WENT THROUGH A MARKETING CAMPAIGN WHERE WE, UH, AND I'LL COVER MARKETING IN A MINUTE TOO, UM, WHERE WE DID A LOT ABOUT REACH, UH, AND HOPEFULLY GOT SOME WORD OF MOUTH OUT THERE FOR THIS PROGRAM.

SO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THOSE CATEGORIES CAN SEEK ASSISTANCE THROUGH OUR PORTAL SYSTEM, WHICH IS, UH, BASICALLY OUR, THE CITY'S APPLICATION SYSTEM, UM, AND BE CONNECTED FOR SERVICES WITH, UH, WITH SOME OF OUR PARTNERS, UH, WHOEVER THEY THINK, UH, MOST FITS THEIR NEEDS.

SO IT'S NON IT.

IT'S NO COST ASSISTANCE FROM THESE NAVIGATOR PARTNERS.

UM, IT'LL INCLUDE ONE-ON-ONE COACHING DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, WHETHER IT'S, UH, EXPANDING BUSINESS OR RECOVERING FROM, UH, EVENTS OR HARDSHIPS THAT YOU'VE EXPERIENCED.

UH, THIS CAN INCLUDE COACHING.

THIS CAN INCLUDE VIRTUAL CLASSES AND A BIG PART OF IT IS ALSO, UH, HELPING, UH, COMPLETE OR, UH, HELPING CLIENTS APPLY FOR ADDITIONAL GRANTS ARE MONIES THAT COULD BE OUT THERE.

UM, LET ME SEE TO BE ELIGIBLE.

UM, YOU HAVE TO BE IN OUR, UH, MSA AREA, WHICH IS THE FIVE COUNTIES, UH, TRAVIS HAYS CALDWELL, BEST DROP IN WILLIAMSON.

LET'S SEE.

I KIND OF EXPLAINED HOW IT WORKS.

LIKE I SAID, BASICALLY WE HAVE PARTNERS, UH, CLIENTS WILL THROUGH ONE OF OUR OUTREACH, UH, HOPEFULLY CONNECT ONTO OUR WEBSITE.

UM, YOU CAN SEARCH FOR THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS PROGRAM OR REFER ANYBODY TO IT THROUGH OUR AUSTIN, TEXAS, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV WEBSITE, JUST COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS AS A SEARCH.

AND IT WILL BRING UP SOME INFORMATION, UH, AT THAT WEBSITE.

UM, YOU CAN ASK FOR ASSISTANCE CREATING AN APPLICATION, OR I'M SORRY, CREATING AN ACCOUNT AT PORTAL.

UM, ONE OF OUR PARTNERS WILL FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON HELPING CLIENTS THAT ARE HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING LOGGED IN OR CREATING ACCOUNTS OR FILLING OUT AN APPLICATION ONCE YOU'RE THERE.

UH, THE APPLICATION PROCESS WILL TAKE INFORMATION INTO ACCOUNT LIKE, UH, WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS YOU ARE, UH, AND IT WILL, UH, TAKE, AND YOU'LL ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE A NARRATIVE ABOUT THE TYPE OF ASSISTANCE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

YOU CAN, UH, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ANY OF OUR NAVIGATORS, HERE'S OUR LIST OF NAVIGATORS RIGHT HERE.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ANY OF THESE, UM, THERE'S SOME THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH.

YOU CAN SELECT THROUGH YOUR APPLICATION THERE AT THE PORTAL SYSTEM.

UM, I WANT TO WORK WITH MISSION CAPITOL, OR I WANT TO WORK WITH, UH, ARA AUSTIN REVITALIZATION, OR IF YOU DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THESE PARTNERS, YOU CAN JUST GIVE US YOUR NARRATIVE AND EXPLAIN WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE.

AND WE HAVE, UH, PERSONNEL THAT ARE GOING IN EVERY DAY AND HELPING IDENTIFY THESE UNSELECTED OR UN-DESIGNATED APPLICATIONS AND GUIDING THEM TO, UH, TO A, A PARTNER THAT CAN HELP THEM.

WE HAVE A CROSSWALK SYSTEM THAT WAS BUILT, UM, THAT HELPS, UH, EACH OF OUR, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S THREE TYPES OF CLIENTS, SMALL BUSINESS NON-PROFITS AND GREATER PROFESSIONALS.

AND THEN THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASSISTANTS IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, ALSO CLASSES, UH, APPLICATION ASSISTANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WITH THIS CROSSWALK, UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT EACH OF THESE PARTNERS IS, UH, PROVIDING FOR SYSTEMS AND WHICH I HAVE A CLIENT THEY'RE ASSISTING.

SOME ARE ASSISTING ONLY SMALL BUSINESS.

SOME ARE ASSISTING ALL THREE TYPES.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF GUIDE THEM TO SOMEONE WHO IS LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.

IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN AND THEY PUT DOWN, I'M A CREATIVE MUSICIAN, A SMALL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, I'M A INDEPENDENT BUSINESS PERSON, A MUSICIAN I NEED HELP APPLYING FOR GRANTS.

THERE'S, UH, SOME OF OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE DOING

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UM, WE'D BE ABLE TO GUIDE THEM TO HAM, FOR INSTANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE THERE.

LIKE I SAID, AT THE APPLICATION POINT, THE INDIVIDUAL CAN SPECIFY ONE OR IF NOT, WE WILL HELP THEM IDENTIFY WHEN THROUGH, UM, THROUGH THE NARRATIVE THAT THEY WROTE IN THEIR APPLICATION.

OFFICIALLY WE LAUNCHED ON MARCH 23RD AT 10:00 AM.

WE HAD A SERIES OF OUTREACH AND MARKETING CAMPAIGNS, UH, EVERYTHING FROM THE AUSTIN NEWSLETTER THROUGH, UH, EMAILS TO STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE BEING, UH, UH, INVOLVED, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

I KNOW LAST WEEK OF OUR, UH, ONE OF MY PARTNERS HERE AT CITY, UH, MARLA, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON TO, UH, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME TO DO SOME PAID PROGRAMMING.

SO WE'VE, THEY'VE TRIED TO MIX IT UP AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE EFFORTS FOR THEM AT THE WEBSITE.

LIKE I SAID, IF THEY WANT, IF A CLIENT YOUNG KNOW, SOMEONE THAT YOU CAN REFER AND YOU GET THEM TO OUR WEBSITE AT OUR WEBSITE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME MORE BASIC PROGRAM INFORMATION.

SOME IF IT CUES, UM, THERE'S EVEN A, HOW TO VIDEO FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO CREATE THEIR FIRST PORTAL APPLICATION ACCOUNT.

WE WILL HAVE ONGOING EFFORTS FOR THIS.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE POSTING IN THE NEWSLETTER.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PROMOTIONAL VIDEOS, AND THERE'LL STILL BE ADDITIONAL MEDIA BUYS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WHERE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE GOING, UM, AND KEEP INTEREST IN THIS PROGRAM.

WE HAVE HAD A PRETTY GOOD START.

WE HAD PROBABLY ABOUT 150 IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS, UM, ON THE FIRST WEEK AND A HALF, I SHOULD SAY, UH, THAT ACTUALLY, I MEAN, THAT GOT ONTO THE WEBSITE, UH, ABOUT HALF OF THOSE ALREADY, UH, RECOGNIZE OUR PARTNERS AND TO PUT SPECIFIC PARTNERS AND THE OTHER HALF WE'VE HELPED GUIDE THEM AND DO REFERRALS FOR THOSE WHO WERE IN DESIGNATED INTO A PARTNERS THAT WE THINK CAN HELP, UH, START TO ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS.

AND THAT IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM.

SO WHAT QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE OUT THERE? MY FIRST PROGRAM IS EXPECTED TO RUN FOR A FEW MONTHS FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS OR NEXT FEW MONTHS UNTIL FUNDING RUNS OUT.

AND, UM, WHAT ELSE? AND WE DO HAVE, LIKE I SAID, ONE OF OUR PARTNERS IS ACTUALLY DESIGNATED TO BE OUR TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR CLIENTS THAT ARE HAVING PROBLEMS LOGGING IN OR CREATING ACCOUNTS, OR HAVE, UH, TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

AND THEY ALSO HAPPEN TO BE OUR MARKETING PARTNER AND ALSO THE ONES THAT ARE HELPING WITH THE MARKETING AND OUTREACH PORTION.

SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND DROP DOWN SO I CAN SEE YOUR QUESTIONS.

I CAN'T SEE FROM THIS SCREEN.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CASEY.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO WHAT IS THE TOTAL PROGRAM BUDGET FOR THIS? THE ENTIRE THING WAS $500,000 OF APPLE PHONES.

WE SPLIT EVENLY BETWEEN OUR PARTNERS.

AND THERE WAS, I THINK THERE WERE LIKE EIGHT, EIGHT PARTNERS.

IS THAT RIGHT? HERE'S EIGHT.

THEY'RE DOING THAT KIND OF WORK.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, ONE THAT'S DOING SPECIFICALLY JUST MARKETING OUTREACH AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

AND THEN, UM, AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ACTIVE AT THIS POINT.

SO NINE, IF YOU COUNT OUR MARKETING.

AND HOW DID Y'ALL DETERMINE WHICH, WHAT SERVICES WOULD BE NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT, WHICH I KNOW THERE WAS AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE NAVIGATORS FOR THE PROVIDERS, BUT YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU DETERMINED WHAT IS NEEDED.

AND COACHING AND JUST TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IN GENERAL.

I'M GOING TO RE I JOINED THE, UH, THIS TEAM, THIS TEAM A LITTLE BIT AFTER INCEPTION OR NOT A LITTLE AFTER, QUITE A BIT AFTER DAVID GRAY WAS LEADING THIS PROGRAM AND HE'S ON MATERNITY LEAVE.

UM, BUT I WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE CONTRACTING PORTION OF IT, BUT DONALD JACKSON SHOULD BE ONLINE.

AND I KNOW THAT HE CAN ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH.

CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT AND A LOT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO SELECTING THE, THE CLIENT BASE AND THE SERVICES PROVIDED DONALD, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, THIS IS DONALD JACKSON.

UM, YES.

UH, SO, SO PARTLY THIS PROGRAM WAS DEVELOPED IN SOME OF ITS PARAMETERS IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT PROJECT OR WHAT NEEDS WOULD BE FULFILLED FOR THE COMMUNITY, UH, FROM COUNCIL DIRECTION.

THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, UH, THERE, THERE WAS STRONG DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO BASICALLY CREATE THIS PROGRAM WITH OUR FUNDING, TO FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF THE THINGS, ESPECIALLY HELPING A COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, AND, UH, SMALL BUSINESS IN CREATIVE SECTORS, ACCESS, EXISTING FUNDS THAT WERE AVAILABLE THROUGH THROUGH PROGRAMS, UM, AT THE TIME FEDERALLY AS WELL.

UH, AT THIS POINT SORT OF MORE LOOKING AT KIND OF LOCAL FOR LOCAL FUNDS IN THE FUTURE.

UM, AS WELL AS JUST PROVIDING TRAINING

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UM, AND THE, THE SCOPE OF WHAT THAT CAN BE IS FAIRLY BROAD.

UM, AS THIS CASE, HE SAID, WE HAVE, UH, EIGHT DIFFERENT PROVIDERS, UH, THAT ARE DOING DIFFERENT TYPES OF WORK.

AND WE, UH, OUT AN OPEN SOLICITATION WANTING TO GET A LARGE, UH, A LARGE GROUP OF NAVIGATORS AND JUST KINDA RE REVIEWED THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WHEN WE HAVE LIKE HIGH QUALITY APPLICANTS AND THEN WHICH, WHICH WE CERTAINLY DID.

AND THEN, UH, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A BREADTH THAT COULD SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT SECTORS AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES.

SO AMONG THE NAVIGATORS, THERE'S, THERE'S PRETTY MUCH A BROAD RANGE OF POTENTIAL SERVICES AND ACTIVITIES THEY CAN DO FOR FOLKS.

SO I THINK A LOT OF US RECOGNIZE HAM ON THE LIST AND WITH FAMILIAR WITH THE SERVICES THEY OFFER.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ELSE IS OFFERED THROUGH THE NAVIGATOR PROGRAM, OR I KNOW THAT CASEY WENT THROUGH SOME OF THAT TOO, BUT, UH, IF YOU COULD EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE OFFERED.

LIKE, OR JUST GIVE US, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S APPLIED YET, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOMEBODY MIGHT SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF ENTITY AND WHAT MIGHT COME THROUGH THE PROGRAM, UH, ASKING FOR SERVICES AND WHAT SERVICES THEY MIGHT RECEIVE.

SURE.

THING.

WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS WHO'VE SIGNED UP SO FAR.

UM, AND A LOT OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS IN SMALL BUSINESSES AND, UM, WELL, SMALL BUSINESSES OF VARIOUS TYPES, ALSO, UM, CREATIVES AND DIFFERENT, UH, ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, AS WELL AS INDEPENDENT MUSICIANS AND ASKED ME FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS, UH, SUPPORT AND APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND OTHER TYPES OF FUNDING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES, UH, SUPPORTIVE, A LOT OF SUPPORT IN BUSINESS PLANNING AND LONG-TERM BUSINESS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

UM, A LOT OF, UH, UH, ESPECIALLY WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES OF DIFFERENT TYPES COMING AT THE COVID PERIOD AND TRYING TO, UH, PRIOR TO, UH, BE IN LIKE A RECOVERY PHASE, THAT'S REQUIRING A LOT OF BUSINESSES TO THINK ABOUT, UM, NEW WAYS OF DOING THEIR WORK.

AND SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF INQUIRIES AROUND THINGS LIKE MARKETING SUPPORT OR STRATEGIC PLANNING SUPPORT, UM, JUST KIND OF A PRETTY, A PRETTY WIDE ARRAY OF, UH, COACHING AND TRAINING, UH, QUESTIONS.

AND SO ADD TO WHAT DONALD HAD THERE.

DONALD SAID THERE, UH, THE WAY I IDENTIFIED A LITTLE WHILE AGO WAS IT FOR THE CLIENTS WE HAD BROKEN THEM INTO, OR THEY'D IDENTIFIED THREE GROUPS WITH SMALL BUSINESS NON-PROFITS AND CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS FOR THE ASSISTANCE PORTION.

THEY ALSO DIVIDED INTO THREE GROUPS, A CATEGORY, ONE WAS ONE-ON-ONE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CATEGORY TWO WAS A TECHNICAL OR COHORT CLASSES.

AND THEN THREE WAS APPLICATION OF SYSTEMS FOR GRANTS.

SO LIKE DONALD WAS DESCRIBING THOSE THAT DEPENDING ON HOW THEY'RE RECEIVING THEM, WHETHER THEY'RE ONE-ON-ONE COACHING ABOUT SPECIFIC SUBJECTS, UH, LIKE HE SAID, OR IF THEY'RE, UH, CLASSES THAT ARE, UH, THAT THEY CAN ATTEND THAT FALLS UNDER CATEGORIES TO THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, UH, COHORT CLASSES.

UH, BUT THAT'S HOW WE HAD THOSE DIVIDED, UM, ONE-ON-ONE TECHNICAL COACHING AND ASSISTANCE CLASSES, UH, WHICH ARE MOSTLY ONLINE AND THEN APPLICATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FOR THE, AND THEN AS DONALD MENTIONED, A FEW EXAMPLES UNDER EACH OF THE FIRST TWO CATEGORIES.

I JUST WANTED TO POP IN, OH, GO AHEAD, ERICA.

SO NOVIA IS GOING TO FOLLOW UP AFTER, AFTER YOU GO ERICA.

SURE.

SO ERIC HAS FAMILY MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, GIN MANAGER, UM, WHERE IT SAYS SMALL BUSINESSES, MUSIC, INDIVIDUALS, LIKE MUSICIANS CAN ALSO APPLY TO THOSE NAVIGATORS.

A LOT OF TIMES MUSICIANS ARE, UM, THE AB TECH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU UBER WHEN THEY COULD BE AN LLC.

SO YES.

UH, JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, YOU'RE VERY QUIET.

IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT, MAYBE TURN UP YOUR INPUT OR SOMETHING.

UM, ALL RIGHT HERE, WHY DON'T YOU GO TO SYNOVIA? SHE MAY COVER MY PLANTS.

YOU'RE LOUDER NOW.

SKILLS AND ASSISTANCE THAT YOU NEED, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE AN INDIVIDUAL, WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO START PROFESSIONALIZING THEIR CAREERS AND SEEING THEMSELVES AS SMALL BUSINESSES SO THAT THEY HAVE MORE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM.

OH, I DID NOTHING.

SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT LIKE A LOT OF MUSICIANS REPORT INCOME ON THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, ONE OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE OFFERED TO SMALL BUSINESSES RATHER THAN JUST CREATIVES COULD BE HELPING TO FORM AN LLC FOR YOUR BAND OR FOR YOUR SOLO WORK, SO THAT, UM, YOU'RE USING A BUSINESS ID NUMBER INSTEAD OF YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS SMALL BUSINESSES AND THEN CREATIVE INDIVIDUALS, UM, CREATIVE INDIVIDUALS CAN GO GET SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT.

SO WE'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT TO EVERYONE TO PLEASE APPLY TO THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT REALIZE THERE ARE

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SO NIVEA ERICA, STILL NOVI, HAUTE, REV, DIRECTOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, EVEN IF YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS FOR YOU AND YOU HAVE SOME CHALLENGES APPLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHY COUNCIL WANTED IT SO BROAD THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING, A GRANT YOU SAW OUT IN THE, ON THE WEB AND YOU WANT HELP TO APPLY, PUT THAT IN THE PORTAL.

AND SO WE CAN NAVIGATE THAT BECAUSE EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE ON THE 10, THAT, UH, NAVIGATORS THAT WE HAVE, WE WORK WITH OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TOO.

SO, UH, WE'RE NOT THE END, ALL THE BE ALL.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE OTHER PARTNERS.

SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE, IF YOU HAVE A CHALLENGE OR A QUESTION, ASK US IN THE PORTAL SO THAT WE CAN PARTNER, UH, MATCH YOU UP WITH THE APPROPRIATE THIRD PARTY OR COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR.

AND THEN I'LL JUST ADD THAT ONCE YOU'RE IN THE PORTAL SYSTEM, NOT ONLY ARE YOU AVAILABLE THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAMS AVAILABLE TO YOU, BUT THEN YOU'RE KIND OF REGISTERED FOR ANY PROGRAM THAT EDD, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WOULD OFFER.

SO IT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET PREPARED FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND FOR OTHER PROGRAMS COMING UP.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM? LAUREN, GO AHEAD.

UM, THIS IS REALLY GREAT.

UM, AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY SO THAT I CAN SHARE AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

SO SAY I WAS, UM, WELL, I AM A PROFESSIONAL FULL-TIME WORKING MUSICIAN AND SAY I WANTED TO, I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO ASK FOR HELP ABOUT.

AND I JUST KNEW THAT I, I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO GET SOME, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS ADVICE ON WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DIRECT MY ENERGY, UM, OR WHAT'S THE BEST, WHAT'S THE BEST, UH, NEXT STEPS FOR ME TO GROW.

UM, AS A, AS A SMALL BUSINESS, WOULD I BE ABLE TO JUST APPLY FOR THIS PROGRAM AND THEN MAYBE CONNECT WITH SOMEONE WHO COULD, EVEN IF I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I NEEDED HELP WITH, WHO COULD MAYBE THEN, UH, POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND, AND GIVE ME SOME, UH, SOME CLARITY ON LIKE GOOD NEXT STEPS TO TAKE WITH MY CAREER.

CAUSE I, I F I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES, UH, FEEL THAT WE MIGHT BENEFIT FROM SOME DIRECTION IN THAT WAY OF JUST LIKE, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS TO, TO GROW? UM, IS THAT, IS THAT, DO I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY? IS THAT KINDA WHAT THE, YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS EVERYONE JUST TO GET, UH, APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM.

THEY MAY KNOW, YOU MAY KNOW WHAT YOU WANT, THAT YOU NEED HELP WITH THE FORMING AN LLC, OR YOU NEED MARKETING HELP.

YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELP, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU.

AND YOU'RE JUST STARTING OUT TO FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW CAN I PROFESSIONALIZE MY CAREER? AND SO LET'S DONALD HAD MENTIONED, AND CASEY HAD MENTIONED, UM, THIS GET, YOU KNOW, APPLY, THERE'LL BE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.

SOMEONE WILL BE ASSIGNED TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND THEN TO REFER YOU TO ONE OR SEVERAL COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS TO HELP YOU OUT.

VERY COOL.

I WILL DEFINITELY BE SPREADING THE WORD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO, UM, THIS FUNDING IS, YOU SAID THERE'S $500,000, UM, IS THAT THAT'S TO PAY, UM, THE, THE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AND, AND, UH, THAT THIS, THE PAID ORGANIZATIONS, RIGHT? CAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE, I'M JUST READING.

IT SAYS, UM, APPLY UNTIL ALL FUNDING IS EXHAUSTED.

SO W WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? AND LIKE, HOW, HOW COULD THE MONEY BE EXHAUSTED, OR WHAT WAS, IS IT IT'S TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES IT'LL PAY FOR THE PARTNERS THAT PROVIDE CLASSES, IT'LL PAY FOR THEM TO ATTEND THOSE FOR FREE, UM, IT'LL PAY FOR THE ONE-ON-ONE COACHING, UM, IT'S TO PAY THE PROVIDERS TO HELP, UH, THE CLIENTS THAT ARE ASKING FOR THIS HELP BECAUSE OF THE PROVIDERS AREN'T GETTING LIKE A LUMP SUM, AND THEN THEY JUST HELP PEOPLE, OR IS IT, IS IT EVERY TIME THEY HELP PEOPLE THEY'RE GETTING PAID OR HOW'S THAT WE'VE DESIGNED THE CONTRACTS AROUND THEM HELP QUINN.

SO THEY'RE BEING PAID EITHER BY THE HOUR OR BY THE CLIENT OR BY THE CLASS.

SO THEY ARE PROVIDING THE HELP.

SO THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY FUNDING YET.

THEY'RE GETTING FUNDING AS THEY HELP.

EXACTLY.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

GO FROM WHAT I DO FOR WORK AS AN ENTREPRENEUR, UH, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE A LOT DETERMINED ON WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO IT.

YEAH, GO AHEAD, CHRIS COMMISSIONER.

SO HOW, HOW WAS THAT DETERMINED? I MEAN, UM, WHEN I, WHEN I LOOK AT SOMETHING, I

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UH, ALSO IT CAN BE DETERMINED ON THE QUALITY OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE RESULTS ARE FROM THE WORK THEY'RE PUTTING INTO IT.

HOW IS THERE, IS THERE A GREAT SCALE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH THAT? BECAUSE SOMEBODY COULD PUT IN A LOT OF WORK INTO SOMETHING, BUT IF IT'S NOT GENERATING A POSITIVE INCOME, AS FAR AS HELPING OUR ARTISTS AND OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR LOCAL MUSIC, MUSIC COMMUNITY, I TRY TO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS FOR MYSELF AS AN ENTREPRENEUR, I ALWAYS GO, THINGS HAVE TO BE JUDGED IN A CERTAIN POINT.

DOES ANY AS YOUR PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE, I UNDERSTAND WHEN THESE ARE PARTNERS THAT WE DO SOME OF THESE PARTNERS AT ALL, BUT SOME OF THESE, WE HAVE A PAST WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM WITH THE TYPE OF SERVICES THAT THEY DO, A SUCCESSFUL, THE ONES THAT ARE REPEATED HERE THAT HAVE HAD OTHER CONTRACTS, UM, WERE SUCCESSFUL CONTRACTS FOR SIMILAR TYPES OF SERVICES.

AND THERE WAS A, A LONG APPLICATION PROCESS AS FAR AS SELECTING THE PARTNERS THAT WE DID.

SO WE DID OUR BEST AND OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO TRY TO SELECT PARTNERS.

WE FELT, UH, COULD PROVIDE WHAT THEY WERE PROMISING.

SO TO SAY, UH, SUCCESSFULLY, UH, BASED ON, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE SELECTION PROCESS AND IN PAST HISTORY, IF THAT WAS RELEVANT.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE MONITORING THEM, UH, AS THESE GO.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF SOME, ONE OF MY PARTNERS WAS TO SAY, OH, WE HELP 50 PEOPLE THIS WEEK, OR THIS MONTH, UM, THEY ARE IN THE PORTAL SYSTEM, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE NOTES DOCUMENT, UH, WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT THE CLIENT RECEIVED AND SUCH.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE REVIEWING DR.

MYSELF BEFORE ISSUING ANY PAYMENTS TO THESE PARTNERS.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THESE ARE GOOD FAITH CONTRACTS.

LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE PROFESSIONALS THAT WE, UH, DEEMED, UH, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR THESE SERVICES, UH, AS FAR AS PROVIDING THEM.

AND WE DO HAVE SOME HISTORY ON WHICH SOME OF THESE PARTNERS ALREADY, AND THEN IT'S PAY AS YOU GO, LIKE YOU SAID, UM, WE WOULD PROBABLY WORK WITH A FEW OF THE CLIENTS AND, YOU KNOW, GET SOME, UH, FEEDBACK AS FAR AS HOW WE FEEL, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THE SERVICES THEY RECEIVED AS FAR AS, UH, BENEFICIAL AND SUCH, EVERYTHING YOU MENTIONED.

UM, SO TO SAY THESE AREN'T JUST BLIND PAYMENTS, RIGHT? AND I WILL SAY THAT IN THE PAST, UM, SMALL BUSINESS HAS DONE THIS BEFORE.

SO THEY'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH CLIENTS WHO MAY COME IN START SERVICES AND THEY SAY, I'LL BE BACK TIRE KICKERS.

SO WE HAVE THE EXPERIENCE IN THAT, AND WE WILL ADJUST AND WORK WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO, IT'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDS AND WE WANT TO BE EFFICIENT WITH THOSE.

SO IT WOULD BE A TWO WAY EVALUATION SO THAT WE WANT TO GET RID OF ANYBODY, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET PUT IT THIS WAY, IF YOU GET GIVEN HOMEWORK AND WE ASKED YOU TO COME BACK TWO OR THREE TIMES, AND YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT, THEN THAT'S A FLAG.

AND SO HOW LONG AS A TEACHER, DO WE KEEP GOING BACK? THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.

SO WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THAT.

UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

SO ARE THOSE CONTRACTS, ARE THOSE, IS THAT, UH, ARE THIS CITY LIKE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS, LIKE THERE ON THE WEB, THERE SHOULD BE ON THE WEAPON NOW.

UM, AND AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM, WILL THERE BE, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE GREAT.

I THINK THE PROGRAM STARTED MARCH 23RD.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO LIKE, HEAR BACK ON SEPTEMBER AT OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING? LIKE YEAH.

HAVE A REVIEW.

CAUSE I DO THINK CHRIS HAS GOT A GOOD POINT OF JUST, YOU KNOW, EVALUATING AND SEEING YOU, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND WE, AND WE'RE GETTING BETTER EACH PROGRAM ON MINING THE DATA.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IT FROM SOMEONE.

SO EVERY ITERATION WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BETTER.

AWESOME.

WELL, I WILL SAY TO LAUREN'S POINT, AND I JUST, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MORE PEOPLE APPLY AND ASK FOR SERVICES, THE MORE ROBUST THE PROGRAM CAN BE.

UM, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND JUST SAY, EVEN IF YOU'RE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED SOMETHING FOR YOUR CAREER, AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THAT IS, OR YOU'RE NOT EVEN SURE, SOMETHING THEY OFFER, JUST ASK.

UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO GIVE OUR, UM, MUSIC AND CREATIVE COMMUNITIES AND SUPPORT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE CITY, WE WON'T ALWAYS KNOW LIKE WHAT'S NEEDED UNTIL IT'S ASKED FOR.

UM, SO YEAH, IT WAS EXCITING.

UH, HOPEFULLY, MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAM IS REALLY SUCCESSFUL.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN CONTINUE WITHOUT, WE WON'T HAVE THE ARPA FUNDING FOR IT, BUT MAYBE THERE'LL BE ANOTHER, UM, POCKET OF MONEY THAT SOME CHANGE IN THE CALCULATIONS THAT WE CAN USE TO FUND THIS IN FUTURE YEARS.

DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OR, UH, WE DO HAVE A PRETTY BIG AGENDA, SO WE'RE GOOD.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, CASEY AND DONALD, UH, FOR JOINING US TO EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM.

TO NEW BUSINESS, UH, ITEM THREE, A

SO WE'LL MOVE ON

[3A. Discussion and Possible Action on Austin Convention Center renovation, expansion and music industry role following presentation by Katy Zamesnik, Chief Administration Officer, Austin Convention Center.]

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IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER, RENOVATION EXPANSION, AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY ROLE IN THAT FOLLOWING A PR PRESENTATION BY KATIE.

IT'S THE BEST NEC CHIEF ADMINISTRATION OFFICER AT THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER.

SO HOPEFULLY KATIE'S KATIE DIDN'T.

I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE MEETING TONIGHT.

THAT IS TOO BAD.

THREE B A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF, UH, FALLING PRESENTATION BY CASEY SMITH, WHO IS THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MANAGER AT EDD.

WELL, I KNOW THAT THE, AGAIN, WE MENTIONED THIS, UH, PREVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SOME OTHER COMMISSIONS ARE DISCUSSING AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE IS AND THE PLAN, ESPECIALLY POST COVID WHEN THE CONVENTION CENTER INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED A LOT.

UM, AND JUST ALSO WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE FOR HOW, UM, HELP THIS EXPANSION CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE, UM, A MUSIC FOCUS.

CAUSE I THINK THAT THAT IS WHY PEOPLE COME TO OUR TOWN.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE LIKE A VERY COOL THING FOR A CONVENTION CENTER, BUT ALSO THERE'S A BIG PRICE TAG TO CONSIDER.

AND ALSO OUR FUNDING COMES FROM THAT EXPANSION.

SO THIS IS REALLY, UM, IMPORTANT TO MUSIC.

SO WE WILL, HOPEFULLY KATIE CAN JOIN US NEXT TIME AND MAY, AND THEN WE CAN, UM, LISTEN TO HER PRESENTATION AND ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

SO THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[3B. Discussion and Possible Action on Austin Music Disaster Relief following presentation by Casey Smith, Strategic Planning Manager, Economic Development Department.]

I'M THE OTHER CASEY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

NICE TO TALK TO YOU ALL TODAY.

UM, I, I BELIEVE I AM HERE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE OUTCOMES OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF.

YOU'RE SUPER SOFT.

CASEY, DO YOU, CAN YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAGIC THING IS, BUT YEAH, YOU'RE PUSHING THE FLEX BUTTON.

IS THAT ANY BETTER? THAT'S BETTER.

AN AUSTIN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE IN OUR MSA ACTUALLY, UM, THAT TOTAL OF, OF HUMANS AND, AND KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS NOT PERFECT DATA.

UM, YEAH, SO I'M HERE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT, GO INTO DETAIL ON THE DASHBOARD, WHICH IS THE OUTCOMES FROM THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF GRANT THAT WE WE'VE PRODUCED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

UM, BUT BIG, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING THROUGH, UM, THE OUTCOMES, WE SAW THAT 72% OF APPLICANTS EITHER HEARD ABOUT THIS PROGRAM FROM WORD OF MOUTH, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH Y'ALL OR THROUGH OUR EMAIL OR NEWSLETTER.

UM, SO GREAT JOB GETTING THE WORD OUT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A BUNCH OF STUFF.

I'M LIKE PICTURES AND DASHBOARDS.

IT'S MY LOVE LANGUAGE.

UM, SO I'M GOING TO SHARE SOME STUFF WITH YOU, BUT FIRST, BEFORE I SHOW YOU ANYTHING JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAD SO MANY ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS TO THIS PROGRAM.

UM, IT WAS PRETTY DEVASTATING TO NOT BE ABLE TO FUND EVERYBODY WHERE WE WOULD HAVE NEEDED ABOUT $5.6 MILLION TO FUND EVERYONE WHO IS ELIGIBLE.

UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD 2.3 MILLION TO DISTRIBUTE.

SO I, I ALSO WATCHED THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING.

SO I, MY HEART STRINGS HURT TOO.

UM, AFTER HEARING SOME OF THE FEEDBACK, BUT LET ME START WITH WHAT WE DO, HOW WE TRIED TO BUILD THE PROGRAM.

I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE APPLICATION ITSELF AND WHAT THAT, HOW THAT TURNED OUT ON THE DASHBOARD.

UM, BUT JUST STARTING WITH KIND OF THE UNIVERSE OF, OF, UH, CREATIVES WE WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH WHEN I GET TO, I HAVE A LOT OF TABS OPEN AND LISTEN TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME WORK.

AND I WANTED TO POINT Y'ALL TO A, UM, A DATA SET THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT.

THIS IS MY JOB AS A STRATEGIC PLANNING MANAGER IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DEPARTMENT, UM, BASICALLY DOES WHAT WE SAY WE WILL DO REGARDING OUR, OUR CITY OF AUSTIN, STRATEGIC DIRECTION, 2023 PLAN.

AND THIS IS ONE OF OUR METRICS THAT WE'RE MONITORING FOR OUR CITY.

AND THIS IS AROUND THE CREATIVE EARNINGS OR THE MEDIAN EARNINGS FOR THE CREATIVE SECTOR IN AUSTIN.

SO WE SCROLL DOWN.

SO, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE UNIVERSE OF CREATIVES.

AND IN THIS CASE, IN THIS PROGRAM, WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY REACH THIS MUSICIANS AND SENIORS CATEGORY.

OF COURSE, THE PROGRAM WAS ALSO OPEN TO INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS MUSIC, INDUSTRY WORKERS, UM, AND OF COURSE MUSICIANS, BUT THIS IS GIVES YOU A SENSE OF HOW BIG, HOW BIG OUR POOL WAS.

AND JUST FOR FURTHER BACKGROUND WHERE THIS DATA COMES FROM, THIS COMES FROM A PROPRIETARY SOURCE CALLED CREATIVE VITALITY SUITE, WHICH WE PAY FOR AS A CITY.

UM, BUT THEY GET THEIR DATA EVEN DEEPER FROM THE UNITED STATES, BLS BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS AND THE CENSUS DATA.

SO THEY PUT IT TOGETHER, GIVES US A SENSE OF, FOR THE CREATIVE SECTOR IN PARTICULAR, WHO IS

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THIS IS KIND OF THE BEST WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON AT THE MOMENT.

UM, BUT IT, THAT TOTALS ABOUT 5,173 PEOPLE THAT ARE MUSICIANS IN SENIORS IN AUSTIN.

SO THAT'S, THAT IS WHO WE WERE TRYING TO REACH.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DASHBOARD, WHICH I HOPE YOU'VE ALL SEEN, AND IF YOU NEED LINKS TO ANY OF THIS INFORMATION, JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN WE CAN GET IT TO YOU.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DASHBOARD, YOU CAN SEE WE HAD 3000, THIS BIG SQUARE RIGHT HERE, 3012 APPLICANTS, WHICH IS ABOUT 42% OF THE MUSICIAN POPULATION.

SO I THINK WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB REACHING INTO COMMUNITY FOR A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.

I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DID, UM, TO GET THE WORD OUT.

SO LET'S NOW GO TO YOU.

I'LL SHOW YOU THIS PAGE REALLY QUICK, THE NEXT PAGE HERE.

UM, AND WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL IN A SECOND, BUT JUST TO GET A SENSE OF, YOU LOOKED AT THIS AND DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE QUESTIONS WERE, UM, YOU MIGHT BE WONDERING, WELL, WHAT DOES A BANK HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? WHAT DOES INCOME HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, HER HEALTHCARE.

BUT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS REALLY UNDERSTAND AUSTINITES, UM, THAT ARE IN THE MOST NEED AND WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WE ASK QUESTIONS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEED IS.

UM, SO I'LL GO TO OUR PORTAL AND THIS IS, UH, WE'RE IN THE PRETEND THE LAND OF THE APPLICATION PORTAL.

THE APPLICATION IS NOT ACTUALLY OPEN RIGHT NOW, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S CLOSED, CLOSED A LONG TIME AGO, BUT I WANT YOU TO SEE WHAT THE QUESTIONS WERE.

SO REMEMBER I TOLD YOU 72% OF APPLICANTS AND TOLD US THEY HEARD ABOUT IT THROUGH EMAIL AND WORD OF MOUTH THAT'S BECAUSE THEY CHECKED OFF THESE BOXES.

AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT FIGURE OF HOW PEOPLE HEARD ABOUT US.

AND WE ASKED THAT QUESTION FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR APPLICATIONS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH OUR PORTAL.

UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED WAS WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YEAR DID YOU BEGIN IN THIS CAREER? AND THIS WAS NOT A SCORE TO QUESTION, BUT THIS GAVE US A SENSE OF HOW, UM, TENURED, LIKE HOW, HOW LONG OUR CREATIVE MUSICIANS HAVE BEEN HERE AND DOING THIS WORK.

AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE DASHBOARD, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY AWESOME.

17 YEARS, IT'S A LONG TIME IN THE INDUSTRY.

SO THAT'S, WE KNEW WE WERE REACHING THE RIGHT AUDIENCE.

UM, THAT'S WHO WE WERE TRYING TO, TRYING TO REACH.

SO THEN THESE NEXT TWO QUESTIONS, AND I CAN'T TELL IF Y'ALL CAN SEE THIS, UM, TALK BOX OVER THE SCREEN OR NOT, AND SEE A HAND UP.

SHOULD I ANSWER QUESTIONS YET? GO AHEAD.

WHAT WHAT'S, WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE MSA AREA? BECAUSE I SEE AUSTIN ROUND ROCK BE THAT I ALWAYS THINK THE NORTH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE NORTHERN CITY COUNTIES.

UM, BUT AS I, UM, FROM WHAT I SEEN IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO THROUGHOUT COVID, THE MORE JORY OF OUR MUSICIANS ARE NOT MOVING TO THOSE AREAS BECAUSE IT'S EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE.

THEY'RE MOVING TO THE HAYS CALDWELL COUNTY AND SURROUNDING WEBER BILL'S PLATE PLACES IN THOSE COUNTIES THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO LIVE IN.

SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS OUR MSA? SO THE FIVE COUNTY REACHED IN IS TRAVIS COUNTY, WILLIAMSON HAYES, UM, UH, CALDWELL AND LEARNING.

WHAT DID I NOT MENTION NOW? THAT IS HAYES WILLIAMSON.

OH, THAT'S THE BEST RAP GANG.

THAT'S WHERE OUR MUSICIANS ARE AT.

YES, YES.

SO THAT'S WHY THE PROGRAM, YEAH.

THE PROGRAM IS OPEN TO THAT MSA REGION.

UM, NOT JUST AUSTIN RESIDENTS.

PARTICULAR WAS, UM, VOCAL ABOUT THIS, OF WANTING TO SUPPORT THE AUSTINITES WHO HAVE RESIDED HERE LONGEST.

SO WE USE THESE, UM, THESE NEXT TWO QUESTIONS.

SO QUESTION NUMBER ONE AND TWO, THESE TWO QUESTIONS HELPED US IDENTIFY WHERE AN APPLICANT, UM, WAS ON THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, UM, SPECTRUM, I GUESS.

SO YOU COULD SAY, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PENALIZE SOMEBODY IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOU EARN MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF, THAT YOU SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE PENALIZED FOR EARNING MORE.

SO THIS, THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME CHART.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GETTING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT Y'ALL TELL ME, I, I GET, I GET EXCITED ABOUT DETAILS.

UM, BUT THIS IS A, UM, A TABLE THAT IS PRODUCED EVERY YEAR AND IT'S, UM, PRODUCED BY A PARTNER DEPARTMENT BASED OFF OF, AND THESE TWO THINGS YOU'VE MADE MAYBE DON'T KNOW, OR MAYBE ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH.

UM, BUT THESE ARE FEDERAL PROGRAMS, THE HOME AND CDBG PROGRAM OR FEDERAL PROGRAMS. AND SO THIS IS BASED, THIS INFORMATION IS BASED OFF OF, UM, FEDERAL GUIDELINES OF WHAT A MEDIAN FAMILY HAS IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNT IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

SO WE'VE KIND OF PLOTTED THERE BASED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN THEIR HOUSE AND HOW MUCH THEY EARNED.

WE KIND OF PLOTTED THAT ALONG THIS CHART HERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE FIRST TWO QUESTIONS ARE.

AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS WE W I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMISSION IN

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SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THEY ALL ASKED, AND THIS WAS A SCORED QUESTION.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE THE OPTIONS WHICH MADE THE DATA REALLY EASY TO ANALYZE.

UH, WE DID ALSO ASK ABOUT HOW OFTEN YOU HAD TO MOVE.

SO THE POINT YOU BROUGHT UP EARLIER, UM, COMMISSIONER AT THE MOMENT WAS HOW OFTEN PEOPLE HAVE HAD TO LEAVE OUR OWN CITY TO PICK A, TO KEEP LIVING IN THE REGION TO DO THE WORK.

SO WE ASKED THESE QUESTIONS AND IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANGE OF REV RESIDENTS OR PREFERRED NOT TO ANSWER, THEY DIDN'T GET A SCORE FOR THAT QUESTION.

UM, BUT IF THEY DID ANSWER THE OTHER ONES, THEY GOT A DIFFERENT SCORE.

WE ALSO ASKED ABOUT BANKING WITH A TRADITIONAL BANK OR CREDIT UNION.

WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS, THIS INDUSTRY IS A GIG ECONOMY OFTEN.

AND, UM, MAYBE, OR MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE AN ACCOUNT WITH A TRADITIONAL BANKER CREDIT UNION, BUT THIS OFTEN IS A REFLECTION POINT OF FINANCIAL STABILITY.

AND SO WE WANTED TO TRACK THEM AND SEE HOW, HOW ARE OUR CREATIVES, OUR MUSICIANS IN PARTICULAR, UM, HOW, HOW FINANCIALLY STABLE ARE THEY? SO THESE WERE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

UH, THIS WAS A QUESTION WE ASKED.

AND AGAIN, IF THEY SAID THEY'VE HAD AN ACCOUNT FOR FIVE OR MORE YEARS, OR THEY PREFER NOT TO ANSWER, THEY DIDN'T GET A SCORE FOR THOSE, FOR THIS QUESTION.

THEN WE ASKED ABOUT THEIR WORK HISTORY.

I'M ALMOST DONE.

Y'ALL I PROMISE, UM, WE ASKED ABOUT THEIR WORK HISTORY.

SO WHERE DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER JOB OR PART-TIME JOB TO SUSTAIN YOUR LIFE AND YOUR CREATIVE ENDEAVOR AND AUSTIN? SO WE ASKED THIS QUESTION AND, UM, AND TH THESE WERE THEIR OPTIONS TO ANSWER THEM.

IT WAS KIND OF A DOUBLE WHAMMY FOR MUSICIANS WHO WERE PERFORMING MUSICIANS, BUT ALSO HAD ADDITIONAL PART-TIME JOB AND IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND FOR THE INDUSTRY TO BE HIT, AS HARD AS IT HAD DURING COVID WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A DOUBLE WHAMMY FOR OUR MUSICIANS, OUR MUSIC INDUSTRY.

UM, SO THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT POINTS BASED ON THESE ANSWERS HERE.

UM, TO WHAT EXTENT HAVE YOU RETURNED TO YOUR PRE PANDEMIC INCOME? AND AGAIN, THIS IS A RANGE YOU COULD ANSWER WHATEVER WAS HAPPENING FOR YOU.

AND THEN WE ASKED ABOUT HEALTHCARE TOO, AND THIS, MAYBE IT WAS ONE OF THE CO SEEMS A LITTLE OFF THE WALL, BUT HEALTHCARE IS, UM, HEALTHCARE COSTS ARE PRETTY CRIPPLING.

IF YOU HAVE, UM, ANY SORT OF HEALTHCARE DEBT THAT CAN REALLY IMPACT YOUR FINANCIAL STABILITY AND YOUR ABILITY TO PURSUE WHAT YOU'RE GREAT AT IN YOUR LIFE, BECAUSE YOU'RE KIND OF SADDLED WITH THIS HEALTHCARE DEBT.

SO WE ASKED THIS QUESTION, AND THESE WERE THE WAYS THAT YOU COULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

AND THEN WE, UM, WANTED TO PRIORITIZE, UH, NOT, NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT WE DID PRIORITIZE A LITTLE, UM, APPLICANTS WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED.

ONE OF THE OTHER ECONOMIC RECOVERY FUNDS, THE FIRST AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND, OR THE CREATIVE WORKER RELIEF GRANT THAT THE CITY OFFERED, UM, OVER A YEAR AGO NOW.

AND THEN WE ALSO ASKED ABOUT PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, UM, BEING A BARRIER TO BEING ABLE TO TAKE THOSE JOBS AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, AND THESE ARE ALL YES OR NO QUESTIONS.

AND THEN THE, UH, SINCE, SINCE SO MUCH OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY TURNED INTO THOSE VIRTUAL ENVIRONMENT, WE WANTED TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT APPLICANTS HAD ACCESS TO HIGH SPEED INTERNET IN THE HOME OR WORKPLACE.

AND INTERESTINGLY, THIS IS NOT ONE THAT WE DIDN'T PUT THIS METRIC ON THE DASHBOARD BECAUSE, UM, IT WAS KIND OF OVERWHELMINGLY PEOPLE DO HAVE ACCESS TO HIGH-SPEED INTERNET.

IN FACT, ONLY 5%, 130 PEOPLE SAID THEY DID NOT HAVE ACCESS.

SO THAT'S, THAT WAS INTERESTING.

IT'S NOT WHAT I EXPECTED TO SEE, UM, AND THE OUTCOME, BUT, UM, THERE YOU GO.

AND THEN WE ASKED THESE OTHER COMPONENTS OF INDICATE HOW YOU WERE IMPACTED BY COVID-19.

THIS IS A COVID PROGRAM, A FEDERAL PROGRAM.

SO YOU WERE ABLE TO MARK OFF THE ITEMS THAT YOU WERE IMPACTED BY, AND THERE WERE POINTS ALLOCATED FOR THAT.

SO ALL THESE QUESTIONS, THIS WAS THE EXTENT OF THE QUESTION.

YOU HAD TO INCLUDE SOME DOCUMENTATION TO BACK UP WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

UM, BUT THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE APPLICATION.

AND THEN WE UPLOADED THIS INFORMATION ALONG, UM, THIS DASHBOARD HERE.

UM, I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN ALSO FOLLOW ALONG.

UM, THIS IS ON OUR WEBSITE, ATX RECOVERS.COM UNDER ECONOMIC IMPACT.

IF YOU WANT TO PULL IT UP ON YOUR OWN SCREEN, YOU CAN DO THAT TOO.

BUT WHAT I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO HERE IN THESE SIX SQUARES ACROSS THE BOTTOM.

SO WE'VE GOT ONE AROUND HOW LONG YOU'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN, THE ONE AROUND HEALTHCARE, THE ONE AROUND YOUR HOUSEHOLD EARNINGS, UM, WHETHER YOUR, WHAT YOUR BANKING SITUATION IS, THEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE AT THE BOTTOM.

WE'RE ASKING ABOUT HOW OFTEN YOU'VE HAD TO NEW BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC

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HARDSHIP.

AND THEN, UM, WHAT OTHER TYPES OF JOBS DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN HERE IN AUSTIN? SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE ARE THESE, ALL THESE LITTLE DONUTS, THE DARK BLUE AND THE LIGHT BLUE ARE THE ONES THAT WE WANTED TO REALLY SEE GET THE BIGGER PIECE OF THE PIE.

UM, WHEN I CLICK ON THIS BUTTON AWARDED, WHAT THAT'S, WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IS SEE THESE LIGHT BLUE AND DARK BLUE BE BIGGER BECAUSE THAT'S WHO WE IDENTIFIED AS WOULD MEET, HAD THE MOST NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO ALL OF THESE, UM, THESE TWO, THE AWARDED AND DECLINED ADD UP TO THE TOTAL POOL OF ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 3012 APPLY, UM, AND 2000 SEVEN HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO, NINETY 2% OF THEM WERE ELIGIBLE.

SO ALMOST ALL OF THEM WERE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE FUNDS.

WE JUST, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH DOLLARS TO GO AROUND.

SO I'VE CLICKED ON A WORDED AND KIND OF RIGHT AWAY, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT, IT DID, IT DID WORK, UM, TO SOME DEGREE.

SO IN OUR HEALTHCARE COVERAGE, THIS WAS DEFINITELY A DETERMINANT OF NEED.

SO YOU COULD SEE THE LIGHT BLUE AND THE DARK BLUE ARE BIGGER PIECES OF THE PIE.

SO AUSTIN NIGHTS, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE 40% OF THE ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS RECEIVE PAID HEALTH CARE, BUT THROUGH THE HELP OF A NONPROFIT OR GOVERNMENT AND HAVE OVER HERE ANOTHER 22% THAT DON'T HAVE HEALTH COVERAGE AT ALL, UM, THAT WERE APPROVED OR AWARDED FUNDS.

YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF APPLICANTS THAT WERE AWARDED 64%, UM, ARE EARNING LESS THAN 35, 30 $5,000 A YEAR, WHICH AGAIN, WE KNEW WE HAD AN IDEA OF THAT NUMBER FROM THIS DASHBOARD OR THIS METRIC UP HERE, $19 AND 86 CENTS.

I MEAN, YOU FACTOR THAT OUT ACROSS, UM, A YEAR'S WORTH OF PAY AND THAT'S ABOUT $40,000.

SO WE'RE REACHING THE AUDIENCE WE WERE AFTER.

AND THEN HERE AGAIN, YOU SEE THE BIGGER PIECE OF THE PIE AS THOSE WHO HAVE BENCHES, UH, UH, HAVE A BANKING SITUATION OF LESS THAN FIVE YEARS OLD AND, OR NOT AT ALL, NO RELATIONSHIP AT ALL WITH THE BANKS, MOVING FREQUENCY, YOU GET THE SAME IDEA, THE BLUE AND THE DARK BLUE ARE THE BIGGER PIECES OF THE PIE.

I WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL.

YOU GUYS CAN, UM, EXPLORE THIS IN YOUR OWN TIME, TOO.

OF COURSE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS HOW WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DATA TO SEE IF YOU REACHED THE AUDIENCE YOU'RE AFTER.

SO YOU MAY ALSO BE WONDERING, WELL, HOW DID THIS SPLIT OUT ACROSS RACE AND ETHNICITY, WHICH WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE WERE, WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS WITH THE COMMISSION, RIGHT? WHERE YOU, THE QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE DRAFTED.

UM, BUT YOU CAN HOVER OVER THESE THINGS AND SEE THE SAME, THE SAME, UM, SIX, SIX BEARS AT THE BOTTOM.

YOU CAN SAY IT'S THE SAME INFORMATION, BUT BY RACE AND ETHNICITY.

SO THIS SECTION OVER HERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF PEOPLE THAT WERE AWARDED, AND WE DIDN'T SCORE ANYBODY BASED ON ANY OF THIS INFORMATION.

UM, BUT WE DID ASK THIS INFORMATION.

SO WE HAVE, WE DO UNDER, WE DO KNOW, BUT WE DIDN'T SCORE ON ANY OF IT.

AND ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU HAVE THE DECLINED INFORMATION DEMOGRAPHICS.

SO, AND WHEN YOU HOVER OVER THE PIE, YOU CAN SEE THE SAME INFORMATION POPS UP.

AND I DON'T KNOW, DOES IT POP UP WHEN I'M SHARING MY SCREEN AND I'LL SEE.

THAT'S REALLY COMPREHENSIVE.

ERIC IS NODDING.

UM, YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, I GUESS, LOOK IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER IS THE ONE THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO SEE, UH, UH, CHANGE AS WE MOVE ACROSS THE PIECES OF THE PIE AROUND THE BANKING SITUATION.

SO YOU SEE THE ORANGE PIECES, THE BIGGEST FOR OUR WHITE APPLICANTS, UM, AND THEN YOU MOVE ACROSS TO HISPANIC, LATINO, AND, AND THAT THANKING SITUATION CHANGES A LITTLE BIT STILL A LOT, BUT NOT, NOT AS MUCH AS THE WHITE APPLICANTS.

AND THEN YOU MOVE OVER HERE TO BLACK AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN, AND IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE WAY TO LOOK THROUGH THIS, TO SEE HOW WE HAVE REACHED OR NOT, UM, THE AUDIENCES WE WERE AFTER, UM, WITHOUT SCORING BY RACE OR ETHNICITY.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, OR I'M HAPPY TO TALK OFFLINE TOO.

CAUSE I GET REAL NERDY ABOUT DASHBOARDS AND THERE, AND I'M WORKING ON A DASHBOARD FOR COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS TO, SO I THINK THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY PRESENTATION.

UM, KIM OR ERICA OR SYLVIA.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT ME TO SHOW? UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CASEY.

I LOVE CHARTS.

I LOVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR CHARTS, UH, BECAUSE IT'S JUST REALLY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY IN THIS KIND OF MEETING FORMAT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT SCREENS TO

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SEE THAT STUFF AT A GLANCE.

SO, UH, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO, I THINK SO LET ME, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO OR YOU'RE JUST READY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THERE'S STILL NOW WOULD AS MAYBE, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK CASEY.

AS I SAID, EACH TIME WE'VE DONE A PROGRAM WE'VE EVOLVED.

AND SO THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE ABLE TO HOVER AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THOSE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF WHO'S BANKING AND WHO HAS TO MOVE.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, UM, COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS WAS COMING UP, BUT WE ALSO GOING TO HAVE NEW PROGRAMS IN THE FALL.

SO, UM, AGAIN, TRYING TO REACH THOSE AUDIENCE THAT YOU, THAT WE WANT AS A DEPARTMENT AND ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS TO GET TO THE END RESULTS, KNOWING WE CAN'T GO DIRECTLY THERE.

AND SO I THINK FOR THIS FIRST TIME WE DID AN AMAZING JOB AND WE'RE JUST GONNA GET BETTER.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED ANOTHER SET OF QUESTIONS TO THE EQUITY OFFICE AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THOSE AS WE ROLL OUT NEW PROGRAMS. AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO THINK CASEY WITH THE INNOVATION OF BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS DATA TO THE PUBLIC, IT'S VERY TRANSPARENT.

I MEAN, ALTHOUGH THIS INFORMATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN AVAILABLE, IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE ANYONE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, TO THIS GRANULAR LEVEL SO THAT THEY CAN TRULY SEE KIND OF HOW THIS WAS THOUGHT OUT AND THAT WE CAN REALLY TRULY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, INTENT AND OUTCOMES.

AND SO AS SYNOVIA SAID IS JUST GOING TO GET BETTER BECAUSE THE DATA IS JUST SO GOOD.

I, I, UM, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FIRST OFF, I THINK THAT THE, UM, THE VERY, VERY EXPLANATORY AND JUST LIKE THE CHARTS AND THE COLORS AND ALL THAT STUFF, IT WAS LIKE A, LIKE, WE'LL GET A BAG OF SKILLS.

AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATED THAT.

IT WAS LIKE PRETTY AWESOME.

UM, AND THE DATA WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND EVERYTHING TOO.

UM, I THINK THAT I HAVE, I DID, YOU KNOW, LIKE EMAIL, YOU KNOW, SLOVENIA, ERICA, UH, AND, UH, LIKE I HAVE IT ERICA TO GET BACK TO ME VERY SHORTLY AFTER I EMAILED HER.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I HAVE NOT HAD HAD A TIME TO LOOK AT, UM, THAT INFORMATION YET, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS I DON'T WANT TO SAY CONCERNING TO ME, BUT IT'S, I MEAN, THERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH MONEY IN THE POT AND THAT'S TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.

THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND AND WE GET THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY FINE.

BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE CERTAIN MUSICIANS THAT WERE FULL TIME DOING A LOT OF REALLY GREAT THINGS, PRE-PRINT PRE PANDEMIC, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THOSE, THAT THOSE SAME MUSICIANS ARE A FEW OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LITERALLY ARE LIKE BEHIND ON THEIR ELECTRICITY BILLS, THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR RENT OR WHATEVER, OR THEIR MORTGAGE OR SOMETHING, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, I I'M, I I'M INTEREST.

I, I VERY MUCH LOVE DATA.

UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE, I MEAN, I REALLY LIKE THAT STUFF.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS, IS, IS THE END OF THE IT'S IT'S THE EQUATION SOLVED, RIGHT.

A PLUS B EQUALS C.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EQUATION, LIKE, AS IT IS, IT'S SOLVED BASED ON THE RUBRICS, BASED ON THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SET OUT TO DO, I'M MORE INTERESTED IN HOW WE GET TO WHAT AI IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

IT WOULD BE AS SUPPOSED TO BE IN.

SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO, ONCE I, UM, AM LIKE, I GUESS HAVE A BETTER, UM, KIND OF UNDERSTANDING OF, OF THE NOMENCLATURE THAT I WAS SENT BY ERICA, AGAIN, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT, BUT, UM, I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND, AND KIND OF REVERSE ENGINEER HOW THIS WORKS.

IT'S IT'S IT IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE POT, OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

BUT HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE PEOPLE WITH THE MOST NEED AND HOW DO WE GET THAT TO, UH, THOSE PEOPLE? UM, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S VERY, UM, IMPORTANT.

I THINK THAT WE, THAT, THAT WE CONTINUED TO BE MINDFUL, CONTINUE AS WE'RE FINE TUNING AS WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT WORKING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DATA AND BEING ABLE TO UNCOVER, OH, THIS IS WHAT WE COULD BE BETTER, AND THIS IS WHAT WE COULD DO DIFFERENTLY, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY KIND OF LOOK INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, OR IF FOR ANY OTHER PROGRAMS OR WHATEVER, HOW IS IT THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING PEOPLE THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS PRIORITIZING AND REALLY DOING IT IN A VERY COHESIVE WAY? AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT WASN'T DONE, I'M SAYING LIKE, LET'S, YOU KNOW, UM, LET'S JUST CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD WORK BASICALLY.

UM, BUT I'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT AT THE, UM,

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AT THE NEXT MEETING.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO TURN OFF DOWN.

UM, SO I SAW THAT THERE WAS SOME SUPPORTING DOCUMENT THAT WAS NEEDED.

UM, IS IT, UM, IS IT ESSENTIALLY TO SUPPORT WHAT'S BEEN ANSWERED IN THE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS OR, UM, SO I GUESS, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT IS, WAS IT ESSENTIALLY ONLY SCORE BASED OR WAS IT A COMBINATION OF SCORING PLUS SOME SUBJECTIVITY INVOLVED BASED ON THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS PROVIDED? NO, TH THAT THE DOCUMENTATION WAS JUST TO ESTABLISH ELIGIBILITY, UH, AS DEFINED IN THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

SO YOU HAD TO PROVE THAT YOU HAD AT LEAST TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A WORKING IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN.

AND IN FACT, OUR THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR WORKED REALLY HARD TO ENSURE THAT EACH APPLICANT HAD A CHANCE TO PROVIDE THE CORRECT DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT.

AND THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION, JUST TO BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS IN PLACE TO ESTABLISH ELIGIBILITY FOR THE PROGRAM.

SO THAT HAPPENED FIRST BEFORE, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS WERE SCORED OR EVALUATED ON THE QUESTIONS AND HOW THEY ANSWERED.

SO ALL DOCUMENTATION WAS JUST TO ESTABLISH ELIGIBILITY FOR THE PROGRAM.

AND AS CASEY SAID, WE ONLY ADDED THREE OVER 3000.

WE ONLY HAD ABOUT 132 THAT WERE DEEMED NOT ELIGIBLE.

AND, UM, I, I GIVE CREDIT TO THE THIRD PARTY TO REALLY DOING THE EXTRA DUE DILIGENCE TO CONFIRM, UM, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTATION.

UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS FOR.

UM, AND LET ME BACKTRACK AND FESTIVAL THANK, THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, GETTING THIS PRESENTATION AND TODAY, UM, UM, ASIAN AS A SUBGROUP IS NOT EVEN TRACKED, UH, IS THAT THE STAT COMES FROM THE CITY STATE, FEDERAL, WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? WE DID HAVE ASIAN.

AND DID IT HIT ALL THESE? DID IT, WAS IT UP THERE? DID I JUST SAY THAT'S NOT A VERY LARGE PIECE OF THE PIE, BUT IT IS THERE BECAUSE THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK PERHAPS, UH, ALSO COMMUNICATING THIS MORE, UM, INTO VARIOUS COMMUNITIES.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE NOTE, WHERE IS IT? WHERE AM I MISSING? AND THAT'S IT.

SO 40,000 AND OLD, UM, AWARDED TO ASIAN I TO AWARDED.

AND THEN ON THE FIRST PAGE, YOU CAN SEE THE POOL, WHICH I THINK IS STILL BOIL.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION.

I SOMEHOW MISSED IT.

WASN'T INTENTIONAL, SO, OH YEAH, NO, THERE'S NOT QUITE ENOUGH ROOM FOR ALL THE LABELS, BUT THEY ARE, THEY AREN'T.

AND THE ONLY, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAD WAS I THINK, UM, I THINK THE, I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT ANSWER TO THIS.

THIS IS ALSO I THINK, UH, JUST SOME COMMUNICATION EXPERT, UH, ADVISING US ON THIS, BUT I THINK, UM, TH THE EMAIL THAT WENT OUT AS SOMEBODY BEING ELIGIBLE, BUT STILL NOT GETTING THE GRANT PROBABLY HURT FEELINGS.

UM, I, I JUST, YEAH, I, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE SOME DIFFERENT VERBIAGE, AND THAT IS JUST A MATTER OF APPROACH, OR JUST GETTING SOME MORE COMMUNICATION ADVICE ON THAT FRONT, I GUESS, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER, BUT MAYBE IT'S GOOD TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE BEING ELIGIBLE THEN, AND THEN NOT GETTING THE FUND, UH, I THINK IT'S ROUGH.

WELL, ACTUALLY THAT WAS BASED, UM, ON THE FIRST TWO ITERATIONS OF AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF GRANT, IF PEOPLE WERE GETTING DENIED AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHY.

AND SO WE WERE GETTING INUNDATED WITH QUESTIONS OF, WELL, WHY WASN'T I ELIGIBLE? I'M A MUSICIAN.

AND SO WE WANTED TO REALLY SHOW PEOPLE AND ALSO SHOW COUNCIL WHAT THE NEED ACTUALLY IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE.

AND SO IT WAS KIND OF A KICK IN THE GUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE IS FEELING VERY IN NEED, NO DOUBT, BUT WE WANTED TO KIND OF VALIDATE YOU ARE PART OF THE MUSIC COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN, BUT THERE JUST WASN'T ENOUGH MONEY.

AND THEN WE NEEDED THAT INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO, UM, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

SO THEY UNDERSTOOD TRULY WHAT THE UNMET NEED WAS.

UM, BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME WE WENT ABOUT, WE DIDN'T SAY EXACTLY IF YOU WERE ELIGIBLE OR NOT, AND THAT CAUSED A LOT OF ISSUES AS WELL.

UM, AND SO WE WANTED TO CORRECT THAT FROM WHAT WE LEARNED THEN, BUT, UH, ALSO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION TRANSPARENCY AS POSSIBLE, NOT ONLY TO THE APPLICANTS, BUT TO, UH, CITY LEADERS.

THE QUESTIONNAIRE HERE, ARE WE BASICALLY LOOKING TO KIND OF USE SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND? IS THAT, OR IS THAT STILL BEING WORKED ON? WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE NEXT PROGRAM, ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEMS TO THE LANGUAGE, BECAUSE THAT'S A NEW IMPROVEMENT.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE INTENT BEHIND IT.

UM, YEAH.

UH, JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO.

UM, BUT THANK YOU.

I JUST HAD ONE LAST QUESTION.

SO THIS,

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YOU COULD SELECT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU WANT IT TO APPLY IN, AND THEN IT CONVERTED IT ON THE BACKEND.

AND SO THAT WAS ALSO A NEW FEATURE.

WE ADD IT AND I THINK IT'S FIVE LANGUAGES, BUT CASEY CAN CORRECT.

WELL, WE'RE UP TO SEVEN NOW, BUT THEY STILL GOT TO GET THE WORD OUT.

IS THIS A TIME NOW TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE FIND THAT WE, UH, FIND THE, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE APPLICANTS? YES.

KEVIN WAS NODDING.

I THOUGHT, YEAH, WE'RE AT THAT POINT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT BACK UP.

SO I LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AGAIN TO, UM, FUND FUND THE REMAINING APPLICANTS FOR THE AUSTIN DISASTER RELIEF, UH, FUND.

SO THINK, UH, LAUREN, YOU HAD A, A DISCUSSION POINT ON THIS.

DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? I DID.

WELL, I HAD A QUESTION, BUT, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ASK AFTER WE FINISHED THIS POINT.

SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE MOTION OR NO.

WELL, IT, SHOULD WE WORD IT THAT WE ARE ASKING THEM TO, TO FIND THE MONEY TO FUND IT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO JUST ASK THEM TO FUND IT, BUT DO WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM FOR THAT? CAUSE THE ARPA FUNDS ARE ALL SPENT? UH, YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE OTHER THAN THE GENERAL FUND REALLY WHERE WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR THIS.

UM, YEAH, I, I JUST, I JUST, IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK WE SHOULD JUST PUT IT IN FRONT OF THEM THAT THEY, SO THEY KNOW THAT THERE WAS THIS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T RECEIVE IT, THERE'S THIS AMOUNT OF NEED AND THAT WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY FIND THE FUNDING.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME FROM, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THEY FIND IT.

EVERYBODY THAT'S PRESENT.

SO JUST LOOKING AT, JUST AS A LITTLE PREVIEW TO THE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET AND THE FUNDING SOURCES IDENTIFIED FOR THE SAME THING WHERE, UM, GENERAL FUND AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH PRIVATE SECTOR ENTITIES.

SO I DO THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE ASK FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022.

EVEN IF THERE THAT IS A REALLY NEARLY IF IT'S, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY TO FIND THE MONEY FOR THIS.

I THINK IT MAKES A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT AND, UH, STRENGTHENS OUR BUDGET, ASK FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

UM, BUT OTHER AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING SOURCES, I THINK WE WOULD JUST BE AT THIS POINT GENERAL FUND.

AND THEN OUR FISCAL YEAR IN FISCAL YEAR 23 STARTS OCTOBER ONE.

UH, SO IT'S NOT TOO FAR AWAY ACTUALLY.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING ON BUDGET FOR THAT NOW.

SO THAT, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, LAUREN.

UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE'LL JUST SPECIFY GENERAL FUND FOR THIS.

AND, AND I DO WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND, AND MAKE THE ASK.

SO, UH, I WOULD SECOND THE MOTION IS THAT WE, UM, MAKE A BUDGET REQUEST OF COUNCIL FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 TO FUND THE SHORTFALL, UH, FOR THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND FOR MUSICIANS.

UH, I THINK TO THAT, CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? OKAY.

LIKE I THINK TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, TEXAS WAS THE, WHAT WAS, WAS THE, WAS THE NUMBER ONE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE MOVE TO, LIKE, THEY HA WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE MOVE, MOVE TO TEXAS AND MOVE OUT OF TEXAS.

AND THAT WAS OUT OF ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.

AND THEN YOU HAVE AUSTIN, TEXAS, WHICH WAS BASICALLY THE NUMBER ONE DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE AND MOVE TO NOT IN TEXAS, NOT IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT IN THE WORLD LAST YEAR, LIKE AUSTIN WAS THE MOST DESIRABLE PLACE TO MOVE TO IN THE WORLD.

SO I THINK THE CITY COULD FIND THE MONEY TO HAMMER OUT SOME DISASTER RELIEF FOR THESE MUSICIANS WHO ARE JUST NOT COMING OUT OF LOCKDOWN.

THAT'S ALL, I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE.

AH, OKAY.

SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS AND ALL OF THESE ARE EXCELLENT POINTS, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.

SO EVER ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION LOOKS LIKE, AND THAT LOOKS WHITE.

IT SO THAT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE IS HELPFUL OR HAPPY WITH THAT.

SO MOTION PASSES.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE THE PAPERWORK STARTED FOR THIS AND WE'LL UPDATE

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AND I JUST WANT TO THANK KIM FOR HELPING US NAVIGATE, UH, A KIND OF A DIFFICULT PROCEDURAL, UM, THING WITH THIS SO THAT IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T GET LOST.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK AND WE'LL GET IT PUSHED THROUGH THIS TIME.

UM, IF THESE THINGS ARE TRICKY AND, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD DO WITHOUT KANSAS, LIKE FIGURE IT OUT AND EXPLAIN IT TO US AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY CLERK OR NOT THE COUNTY CLERK, THE CITY CLERK ON THIS.

SO THANK YOU, CAM AND YEAH, THANKS FOR, TO EVERYONE FOR BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE TABLE SO WE COULD VOTE ON IT AGAIN.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE LAST POINT, UM, THAT, UH, IN MARCH WE DID HAVE 81 ADDITIONAL FOLKS APPROVED THROUGH AN RCA THROUGH SAVINGS, THE ARPA SAVINGS WE HAD LEFT IN THE MUSIC, UM, ARPA ALLOCATION.

AND SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO, THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

AND SO WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH PURCHASING TO GET THAT MONEY TO THE THIRD PARTY AND THEY CAN ALERT THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEXT GROUPING OF SCORED APPLICANTS THAT FIT THAT SCORE, UH, THAT THEY WERE FUNDED AS WELL.

AND SO THAT IS COMING AND THAT WAS PART OF THE MARCH 31ST OR 23RD, UM, COMMISSION, I MEAN A COUNCIL MEETING.

SO, UH, WE REALLY LIKE SCRAPED EVERYTHING WE COULD TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE FUNDED AS POSSIBLE.

UM, AND SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL.

YEAH, THAT'S COOL.

THAT'S VERY COOL FOR THE, FOR THAT 81 81 PEOPLE.

I'M SURE THEY WERE REALLY HAPPY TO GET THAT GOOD NEWS.

SO WHERE DID THE, HOW DID THE, HOW DID THAT EXTRA MONEY TURN UP? YEAH, SO WE ACTUALLY, FROM THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE PRESERVATION FUND, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THOSE VENUES, UM, TURNED DOWN THE AWARD BECAUSE THEY WERE NO LONGER IN JEOPARDY OF CLOSING.

AND SO THAT WAS AN EXTRA $140,000 THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ALLOCATE, UH, FOR, FROM THAT VENUE.

AND THAT WAS AMAZING.

AND THAT SHOWS HOW WELL THAT PROGRAM WAS WORKING AS WORKING AS WELL.

AND THE REST WAS FROM, UM, SOME OTHER ARPA SAVINGS THAT WE HAD THAT WE HAD USED FOR TECHNICAL FOR THAT PROGRAM, FOR THE VENUE PRESERVATION FUND.

SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE LOOKED FOR EVERY PENNY THAT WE COULD TO FINISH OUT THE NEXT SCORING CATEGORY.

SO, SO THAT VENUE, I MEAN, TECHNICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE AND THEY JUST SAID, NO, THANK YOU.

LIKE, PLEASE FIND, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT? CAUSE THAT'S COOL.

WE CANNOT.

SO NOBODY SAYS, NO, WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO, WELL, ALL RIGHT.

WELL WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS, BUT LIKE GOOD.

I'M SENDING LIKE GOOD ENERGIES TO WHOEVER THAT IS LIKE THAT, THAT IS REALLY AWESOME.

SO THAT IS, UH, VENUES SUPPORTING OUR MUSICIANS.

AND OF COURSE OUR MAIN, OUR VENUES WOULD BE HERE WITHOUT OUR MUSICIANS.

SO THAT IS LIKE REALLY GOOD SYNERGY.

SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S COOL.

UM, ONE LAST THOUGHT ONE LAST THOUGHT BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WOULD JUST, UH, CALL, UH, IF EVERYBODY COULD LET THEIR COUNCIL PERSON KNOW THAT WE PASSED THIS DIRECTLY, I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY.

YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S GREAT.

AND THAT CAN JUST BE AN EMAIL OR A TEXT TO YOUR, YOUR PERSON.

UH, BUT YEAH, PLEASE DO THAT.

SOMEHOW JUST SOME MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THAT BROKE DOWN, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

LAUREN, GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION, UM, OR COMMENT.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH ACTUALLY, UH, BUT TO KIND OF COMING BACK TO POINT ABOUT, UM, RECEIVING THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU WERE ELIGIBLE, BUT, UH, BUT STILL DIDN'T RECEIVE THE FUNDS AND, UM, KIND OF WHAT ERICA SAID AND LOOKING AT THE DATA, WHICH WAS WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT AT THE LAST MEETING.

UM, IT'S STILL REALLY HARD TO TELL FROM THE DATA, WHAT WAS PRIORITIZED AND TO UNDERSTAND WHY OKAY.

I WAS ELIGIBLE.

SO WHY WASN'T I AMONG, YOU KNOW, THE RECIPIENTS? SO WHAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING IF IT'S POSSIBLE IS WHAT THE SCORING CRITERIA WAS.

UM, LIKE NOT JUST WHICH QUESTIONS WERE SCORED, BUT HOW, UM, EACH QUESTION WAS SCORED AND MAYBE LIKE, UM, SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW THAT WOULD BREAK DOWN OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY, UH, UH, A STEP IN THE RIGHT.

I'M SURE IT WAS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR PEOPLE TO SEE, OKAY, I AM ELIGIBLE.

SO I GET THAT VALIDATION AND THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.

AND, UM, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU GUYS DID THAT, BUT I THINK AT THE, AT THE SAME TIME, THEN THERE WAS LIKE THIS WELL, BUT SO WHAT SETS ME APART FROM THESE OTHER PEOPLE AND HEARING FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME INTO THE MEETING LAST MONTH, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, ON PAPER, YOU'D GO, WELL, WHY WOULDN'T YOU RECEIVE THIS AS YOU KNOW, AND WHY WOULD SOME OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW UH, SCORING OR

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CAUSE IT'S STILL LOOKS TO ME KIND OF JUST LIKE A VERY SIMILAR SWATH OF DIVIDE, EVERYONE WHO APPLIED IN HALF, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.

WELL, WE DID SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH SCOTT.

THAT WAS PART OF THE INFORMATION.

UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCORING MATRIX IN THE GUIDELINES AND YOU'LL SEE, EACH SECTION HAS UP TO 20 POINTS UP TO 10 POINTS.

AND SO EACH BULLET UNDER THAT HAS SCORE HAS A SCORE ATTACHED TO IT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE GUIDELINES.

SO YOU KNOW THAT IN THAT CATEGORY FOR, YOU KNOW, HOW FOR YOUR HOME SITUATION UP TO 20 POINTS, AND THEN IT SHOWS THE BULLETS THAT THERE WAS A SCORE ASSOCIATED IN A QUESTION ASSOCIATED WITH EACH BULLET.

UM, BUT I CAN ALL READ TO THE COMMISSION.

YEAH, THE GUIDELINES ARE ONLINE, BUT I CAN FORWARD TO YOU WHAT WE SENT TO SCOTT.

UH, JUST TO REITERATE THAT, THAT, YEAH, THE GUIDELINES ARE THE GUIDELINES ONLINE WITH THE SCORING CRITERIA.

IF YOU GO, AND IF YOU SEARCH, IF YOU GOOGLE AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF GRANT, IT WILL PULL UP THE ORIGINAL GUIDELINES.

UM, I HAVE ASKED FOR US JUST TO HAVE A LINK ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GOOGLE IT, THAT YOU CAN JUST GO CLICK ON THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

AND SO THAT, UH, COMMS IS WORKING ON THAT.

I THOUGHT I HAD LOOKED PRETTY EXTENSIVELY THROUGH EVERYTHING.

SO, UH, UH, IT WAS THE SCORING MATRIX THAT IT WAS PART OF.

IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, THERE'S AN ACCORDION THAT SAID SCORING CRITERIA.

I CLICK ON THAT AND IT KIND OF SHOWS EVERYTHING.

IT MIGHT BE COOL TO PUT THAT, UH, SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE THAT WITH THE DATA, BECAUSE I WAS SHARING THAT DATA WITH PEOPLE AND IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WAS JUST NOT AS, UM, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

ENLIGHTENING TO PEOPLE AS IT MIGHT.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE.

SO THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE, I REALLY, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT.

HAPPY TO ADD A LINK TO THAT SCORING CRITERIA ON THE DASHBOARD.

YOU CAN CLICK TO IT FROM THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M ALSO PROBABLY ASSUMING, I MEAN, I'M NOT ON THE INSIDE THERE, BUT I LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE LAST PERSON THAT GOT IT.

AND THEN A WHOLE SWATH OF PEOPLE WAS PROBABLY LIKE A POINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S JUST, IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAD AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M SURE THERE WERE PROBABLY HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT BELOW THAT LAST CUT.

SO KNOW IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

THAT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST REALLY HARD, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE APPLIED AND I, LIKE YOU SAID, THE WORD GOT OUT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE APPLIED.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO APPLY.

I WANT APPLY THE, EVERYONE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONTINUOUSLY GETTING THIS FEEDBACK AND WORKING ON THINGS AND HEARING, UM, YOU KNOW, HEARING ON WASTEWATER IMPROVE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS JUST, IT'S REALLY LARGELY A MONEY ISSUE.

LIKE EVEN IF WE HAVE 5 MILLION THE NEXT TIME, IT MIGHT PROBABLY BE 6,000 PEOPLE THAT APPLIES.

IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S JUST GETTING HARDER, GETTING HARDER OUT HERE.

UM, THE CITY, AS SCOTT SAID IS, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING RAPIDLY, UM, NONE OF THIS, UH, NONE OF THE WAGES OR ANYTHING, OR ARE INCREASING WITH THE DEMAND OF, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING AND EVERYTHING'S GOING UP.

SO THIS IS A HARD CITY TO LIVE IN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO JUST DO OUR BEST TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOLKS AND ASK THEM TO FUND EVERYBODY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO FIND THE MONEY AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO, UH, BE AS VOCAL FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T GET IT AS WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING TO NOT BE LEFT OUT.

UH, IF THAT IS EVERYTHING ON THAT ITEM, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[3C. Discussion and Possible Action on addition of Short-term Rentals to Hotel Occupancy Tax fund revenue following presentation by Luis Briones, Airbnb.]

ITEM THREE C.

AND SO STILL TALKING ABOUT MONEY HERE, FORTUNATELY, A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ADDITION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND REVENUE, FOLLOWING A PRESENTATION BY LUIS BRIONES FROM AIRBNB.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONERS CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? WE CAN, YEAH, THANKS.

SORRY FOR THAT LOUD BANG.

I JUST DROPPED THE FULL CHICO HERE ON MY DESK.

UM, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME.

UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE LARGE BODY OF WORK THAT HAPPENS HERE AT THIS COMMISSION.

UM, AS I, AS I KNOW, I'VE SAID TO MANY OF THOSE WHO, YOU KNOW, I SPEAK TO DAY IN, DAY OUT CULTURAL ARTS AND LIVE MUSIC IN PARTICULAR ARE THE HEARTBEAT OF THE CITY.

UM, AND SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING SORT OF ADJACENT TO THAT, WHICH REALLY SORT OF, UH, IMPACT THE, THE, THE BASE OF MONEY THAT GOES AROUND TO, TO HELP SUPPORT THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

AND SO, UM, I HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE STRIPE HITTING SHERIFF'S SCREEN.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE ACCESS, I THINK AB TICKET PRIVILEGE.

IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THIS WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS BOOST, NOT ONLY TO THE CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION, BUT TO MANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS YOU SAW THE LETTER MUCH OF THE WORK THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED HERE.

APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH.

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IT'S HERE.

YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN? YES.

GREAT.

UM, SO JUST FIRST AND FOREMOST, SORRY, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALLY INTRODUCE MYSELF.

MY NAME IS REESE, PRETTY HONEST.

I AM.

I'M THE TEXAS PUBLIC POLICY DIRECTOR FOR AIRBNB.

I'M BASED HERE IN AUSTIN, UH, JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU GUYS.

UM, AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT I KNOW, NOT JUST THIS COMMISSION, BUT THE ARTS COMMISSION TOURISM COMMISSION HAS, HAS BEEN TRACKING FOR SOME TIME, WANT TO KICK IT UP BY GIVING A BIT OF BACKGROUND.

SO, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, SHORT-TERM RENTAL EXIST HAVE EXISTED FOR EVEN BEFORE AIRBNB WAS BOTH A NOUN AND VERB.

UM, BEFORE OUR FOUNDERS SET UP AN ARAB, UH, ARAB BED AND THERE ARE APARTMENT, UH, TO HOST THE FIRST THREE GUESTS.

UM, BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL, LET'S SAY 20 12, 20 13.

AND SO ON THAT CITY STARTED SORT OF CRAFTING RULES AROUND SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UM, IN AUSTIN, AS MANY OF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CREATIVE RULES LAST IN 2016, WHICH WERE BUILDING ON, UH, EARLIER ATTEMPTS TO BUILD RULES IN 23RD, 2012, AND THEN 2013.

UM, THE LAST ITERATION OF THAT, WHICH WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO NOW, FEBRUARY OF 2016, THE COUNCIL PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD RESTRICT SHORT TERM RENTALS OR STRS, UH, ESPECIALLY THOSE CALLED TYPE TWOS SDRS.

UM, THOSE WOULD BE PHASED OUT BY 2022.

PRIOR TO THAT, LIKE I SAID, THERE WOULD BE, UM, THERE WERE INITIAL ATTEMPTS TO REGULATE, PUT SOME RULES IN PLACE, 20 12, 20 13.

THE PARTICULAR NOTE ON, ON THE 2016 RULE ON 2016 ORDINANCE IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SUBSEQUENTLY THAT WAS CHALLENGING IN THE COURT SYSTEM HERE IN TEXAS, UH, THIRD COURT OF APPEALS, SPECIFICALLY PROVISIONS OF THAT, UM, ORDINANCE WERE, UH, DEEMED UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

THE CITY THEN MADE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION SUPREME COURT THAT WAS TURNED DOWN.

UM, AND, AND WHY ARE WE HERE AND WHY DOES THIS BRING US HERE? SO IN THE TIME, SINCE THE ORDINANCE, THERE WAS A MORATORIUM PUT IN PLACE ON TYPE TWO LICENSES, WHICH MEANT A LOT OF HOSTS COULD NOT GET THE LICENSES, UM, EVEN PRIOR TO THE PHASE OUT.

UM, SO WHY IS THAT LICENSED SO IMPORTANT BEYOND THE CITY? YOU KNOW, USING THAT AS A, AS A MECHANISM TO, UH, TO SORT OF JUST POLICE AND SORT OF LIKE, KNOW WHO'S RENTING OUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PAYMENT OF HOT, UM, WITHOUT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE CANNOT REMIT THEIR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS A, IT'S JUST AT THE POINT OF SALE, JUST LIKE WHEN YOU, WHENEVER YOU GO TO A STORE, YOU KNOW, THEY COLLECT THE PAYMENT ON THE, ON THE SALES TAX THAT WE, THE PLATFORM'S NOT DISTURBING ME, BUT OTHERS BE THE ONES TO COLLECT THAT AND REMIT THAT OCCUPANCY TAX ON BEHALF OF THE HOSTS.

UM, BUT MORE BACKGROUND HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY IT'S ON EVERY INDIVIDUAL HOSTS, INDEPENDENT OF WHATEVER SORT OF MODALITY, WHETHER IT'S A SPARE BEDROOM, UM, SORT OF LIKE A BACKYARD UNIT, UM, A, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S ON THEM TO COLLECT AND REMIT DIRECTLY TO THE CITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING AUSTIN'S A REALLY IMPORTANT MARKET IN, IN, IN TEXAS, VERY POPULAR CITY.

AS MANY OF YOU HAVE NOTED HERE.

UM, I'D SAY BACK IN THE DAY IN 2016, SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE PRINCIPALLY AROUND, UM, PARTY HOMES, NOISE, NUISANCE.

UM, I WOULD SAY SINCE THEN, AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE YOU A BIT OF BACKGROUND.

I JOINED THE COMPANY 2015.

MY TEAM REALLY GREW SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR EFFORT WAS TO REALLY LISTEN TO STAKEHOLDERS ON THE GROUND, AROUND SOME OF THESE ISSUES TO TRY TO BUILD TOOLS INTO OUR PLATFORM THAT COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES BEFOREHAND.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HIGH RISK PRESERVATION REVIEWS.

NOW, UH, WE HAVE PORTALS FOR BOTH FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FOR NEIGHBORS THAT WE, OF THEM, WHEN WE CALLED THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT PORTAL FOR PEOPLE TO FLAG THESE PROBLEM PROPERTIES, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IN MANY CASES, IT'S THE GUESTS OR BEHAVING IN AN UNRULY FASHION AND WE'LL TAKE ACTION ON THOSE GUESTS.

BUT IN SOME CASES IT'S ALSO THE HOST, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT A LOT OF HOSTS IS I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE INCENTIVIZED TO KEEP THEIR HOME REALLY NICE.

UH, THEY DON'T WANT DAMAGES IN THERE, BUT SOME HOSTS UNFORTUNATELY WILL VIOLATE OUR COMMUNITY POLICIES AND WILL ALLOW SORT OF RANGERS IN THEIR HOME.

AND WE TAKE ACTION ON THOSE FOLKS.

UM, IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE ALSO MADE SOME PROGRESS ACROSS THE STATE IN THE COLLECTION OF HOT.

UM, UH, SO WE, AS YOU, AS MANY OF YOU, I THINK HAVE NOTED IN THE PAST, WE COLLECT AND REMIT THE OCCUPANCY TAX, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO THERE'S A 6% THERE

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WE DO.

UM, AND LUCKILY THE GOOD NEWS HERE IS THERE'S SOME MOMENTUM AMONGST SOME ON COUNCIL TO PASS A SIMILAR AGREEMENT HERE IN AUSTIN, SO THAT WE, THE PLATFORMS CAN JUST GO AHEAD.

AND LIKE I SAID, AT THE POINT OF SALE, THE POINT OF BOOKING BE ABLE TO COLLECT, UH, THE AGE OF T UM, WITH THAT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF THIS IMPACTS THE, THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DIRECTLY WORK ON, RIGHT? AND A LOT OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UM, BENEFIT FROM THE HOT, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THE ONES THAT WE KNOW, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE COME TO SYMBOLIZE SORT OF THE, THE CULTURE OF AUSTIN.

UM, WE'VE CIRCULATED A LETTER OF SUPPORT AMONG SEVERAL OF THE CULTURAL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN THE CITY, UM, ENCOURAGING COUNCIL TO ADOPT AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD REQUIRE US AGAIN WITH PLATFORMS TO COLLECT HOT.

ON BEHALF OF THAT ON US, HERE'S A LITTLE LIST OF SOME OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THIS LETTER WITH THE COMMISSION HERE.

UM, WE SHARED IT PREVIOUSLY WITH, UM, WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION AS WELL.

UH, WE PRESENTED TO THEM, WHAT WAS IT? I THINK THE 24TH OF FEBRUARY, IT'S ABOUT FIVE, SIX WEEKS AGO, UM, AND HAPPY TO SHARE THIS LIST AS WELL WITH Y'ALL AND THE LETTER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UM, I WANT TO MOVE INTO A LITTLE BIT OF SORT OF JUST A, UH, A SYNOPSIS OF HOW FOLKS FEEL ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS TO THIS DAY.

UM, WE CONDUCTED A POLL, UH, REALLY WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT A, SORT OF A SNAPSHOT, A PULSE OF HOW ARE FOLKS THINKING ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN? UM, SO WE DID THIS POLL, THE LITTLEFIELD CONSULTING WAS A RENOWNED, UM, UH, POLLSTER IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UM, INTERVIEWED ABOUT 400 GENERAL ELECTION VOTERS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE CIVICALLY ENGAGED AND INVOLVED ACROSS ALL COUNCIL DISTRICTS IN TRAVIS AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

UM, SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE HERE, UM, THIS, JUST TO SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT'S A GOOD CROSS SECTION OF FOLKS THAT GOT TO CHIME IN ON, ON, ON HOW THEY FELT ABOUT STRS HOT'S AND HOW THIS IMPACTS THE CITY.

UM, SO THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE PRESENTED TO FOLKS, UH, THAT THE, THE POLLSTERS PRESENTED FOLKS WAS WOULD YOU SUPPORT AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE SHORT TERM RENTAL COMPANIES TO COLLECT AND REMIT THE H OF T TAX ON BEHALF OF THE HOSTS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, 63% OF THOSE FOLKS WOULD SUPPORT THAT, UM, THE, THE REAL TAKEAWAY HERE, AND I'LL MAKE SURE TO SHARE THIS AT THIS.

I THINK I SHARED THIS PRESENTATION WITH KIM, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE IT CIRCULATES AMONGST THE REST OF YOU IS THE MOMENT YOU SORT OF EDUCATE THE, THE, THE FOLKS WHO ARE, UH, THE POLL IS BEING CONDUCTED ON LIKE WHERE THIS MONEY GOES AND WHAT THIS POTENTIALLY MEANS FOR THE CITY AND FOR CULTURAL ARTS, UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, PER OUR ESTIMATES IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 TO 20 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL HR, THREE REVENUE.

UH, THE FAVORIBILITY GOES UP, UM, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBER THE 15 TO 20 MILLION, BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU MENTIONED WHERE THIS MIGHT GO, I KNOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF DEBATE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DISTRIBUTION OF THIS MONEY, HOW IT NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW IT SHOULD GO TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO.

UM, BUT OVERWHELMINGLY, WHEN YOU TELL FOLKS, HEY, LOOK, THIS IMPACTS SORT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE THE REASONS WHY MANY OF YOU, YOU KNOW, FOLKS, UH, HAVE DECIDED TO LIVE HERE OR VISIT HERE, ET CETERA.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OVERWHELMING SUPPORT.

SO FROM THE VERY FIRST QUESTION, WILL YOU JUST TALK ABOUT IT, POINT BLANK WITHOUT GIVING A LOT OF CONTEXT TO THE LAST QUESTION, WHEN YOU GIVE THIS CONTEXT OF, THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THIS IS WHERE IT WOULD GO, SUPPORT INCREASES 9% AND IMPORTANTLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO MEASURE THE OTHER DIRECTION.

THE OPPOSITION DECREASES BY 8%.

LIKE I SAID, I CAN MAKE SURE TO SHARE THIS, THIS, THIS, NOT ONLY THE SLIDES, BUT THE POLL AS WELL.

SO Y'ALL CAN TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT IT TO MAKE THIS QUICK, TO LEAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS.

WE, WE ALL AGREE HERE THAT CULTURAL ARTS AND MUSIC, AND PARTICULARLY THE, OF BOSTON, UM, THRIVING SCENE IS WHAT IS CRUCIAL TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS AND SORT OF, UH, VISITORS TO THE CITY.

AND IMPORTANTLY, AS, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED HERE, SUPPORTING THE TH THAT, THAT SECTION OF ARTISTS, OUR CITY IS IMPORTANT, NOT JUST FOR US INDIVIDUALLY.

I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN MY BACKGROUND.

I, I TOO AM A MUSICIAN, NOT A PROFESSIONAL, ONE MORE HOBBY FOR ME.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THE REASON I DECIDED TO LIVE HERE.

I HAD STARTED TO MOVE HERE.

UM, AND IT'S THE REASON WHY YOU ARE IN THIS COMMISSION PER THE CURRENT ESTIMATES.

THE CITY COLLECTS FOUR TO $5 MILLION EACH YEAR ON HOT WITH THIS AGREEMENT.

WE COULD BOOST THAT, BUT LIKE I SAID, DIRECTLY THROUGH THE PLATFORMS, AIRBNB BRBO AND, AND MANY OTHERS, IT'S 15 TO 20 MILLION PER YEAR.

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UM, AND, AND REALLY SORT OF, UH, A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

WE BELIEVE TO MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A SUPPORT THAT IS NEEDED, UH, FOR MANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, MANY OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS CITY CAN REMAIN SUSTAINABLE FOR ARTISTS, MUSICIANS OF ALL KINDS, UM, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SEE A FUTURE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR THEM.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS.

IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO STOP SHARING MY SCREEN SO I CAN SEE YOUR FACES BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE THE WEBEX MAKES IT REALLY SMALL.

SO I'LL STOP SHARING RIGHT THERE.

YOU I'M SORRY.

I SAW SOMEONE'S LAUREN'S HAND GO UP.

LAUREN, DO YOU WANT IT? OH, THAT'S OKAY.

UM, OKAY, WELL I, YEAH, GO AHEAD CHOCOLATE.

DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE AGREEMENTS FROM, UM, IS IT VRB? IS THAT HOW YOU SAID THE RBO AND, UH, WHAT'S UH, WHAT ARE THE HOST, DO YOU HAVE, UH, THEY IN AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS ON THEIR END AS WELL? YEAH.

THERE'S THE INTERESTING, UH, UM, PECULIARITY THAT ACTUALLY, THOSE ARE YOUR HOMETOWN FOLKS, RIGHT.

ARE BASED HERE IN AUSTIN.

UM, I LIVE HERE THAT THE COMPANIES FROM SAN FRANCISCO, AND SO I, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE PEERS OVER THERE WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS, WHICH TYPICALLY MOVE IN TANDEM.

UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

THERE'S NOT A MARKET IN WHICH WE DO SOMETHING THEY DON'T, UM, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS COMP COMPETITIVENESS, BUT WE, BECAUSE WE ALSO FEEL IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS AT IT.

IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING IT'S IT'S EXPEDIA GROUP, BUT EXPEDIATED GROUP OWNS VRVO, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY BOUGHT HOMEAWAY BACK IN THE DAY.

YOU MAYBE REMEMBER THEIR OFFICES AROUND SOUTH LAMAR, BUT ABSOLUTELY.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE, BOTH OF US, WE COVER A BIG PORTION OF THE MARKET AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OTHER SMALLER PLAYERS TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONTRIBUTE AS WELL IN THIS WAY.

UH, SO I HAVE, YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION AND LET ME USE IT AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION, BUT I AM, I AM CONFUSED.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE, THERE IS SOME HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES BEING COLLECTED FROM SOME SDRS, BUT NOT AIRBNB SDRS.

LIKE HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHY AM I FIRST OF ALL? IS THAT CORRECT? AND IF SO, WHY IS THAT THE CASE? LIKE, HOW DOES IT, IS IT JUST LIKE A COMPANY BY COMPANY? YEAH, NO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY.

WHO'S ASKING THE QUESTION, BUT I SEE THE, UH, THE BIG, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

OH YES.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO CURRENTLY EACH INDIVIDUAL HOSTS HAS TO DO THE PAPERWORK THROUGH THE REPORTING TO THE CITY DIRECTLY.

UM, SO THERE ARE SOME AIRBNBS THAT ARE COGNIZANT THAT THERE ARE SOME FOLKS ARE HOSTING ON BRBO AS WELL, SOME THAT ARE DOING IT KIND OF ON THEIR OWN.

UM, BUT SORT OF WHAT WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR HERE IS TO DO SO THROUGH THE PLATFORM OF BEING THAT WE'RE THE ONES THAT SEE EVERY BOOKING COMING THROUGH.

BECAUSE AS, AS, AS I THINK IT WAS NOTED IN A PRIOR CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS MAYBE LEAVE TOWN WEEK OF SOUTH BY ACL FORMULA, ONE RACE THEY'RE CASUAL HOSTS, AS WE WOULD CALL THEM.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO GO THROUGH THE, THE PAIN AND LABOR THAT IS LIKE EVER REPORTING.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO REPORT EVERY MONTH, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GUEST, ONCE YOU ONCE TO REGISTER BEFORE THAT EVEN HAPPENS, WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THESE HOSTS THAT THEY'VE HAD THEIR PERMIT SORT OF IN LIMBO, IN QUEUE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO WITH THAT, THAT LIKE RECOGNITION, THERE'S JUST AS NO WAY THAT SOMEONE CAN SHOW UP WITH LIKE A BAG OF MONEY AT CITY HALL AND BE ABLE TO REMIT THIS PAYMENT.

AND IT'S ALSO THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE.

YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE ASK ME LIKE, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST FLIP A SWITCH AND MAKE SURE THE MONEY GETS THERE ABOUT CITY HALL IS PRETTY CLOSE TO ME, BUT I CAN'T ALSO WALK OVER THERE WITH BAGS OF MONEY OR WHERE THE CHECK, UM, THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO GRANT US THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT ON BEHALF OF THE HOSTS.

UM, SO YEAH, LIKE YOUR QUESTION IS A GREAT ONE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS THIS GENERAL CONFUSION.

I WOULD SAY THAT LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE.

SO WHY IS THERE SOME, BUT NOT ALL, UM, FIRST THING, JUST TO RECAP, NOT EVERYONE SORT OF DOES THIS PROFESSIONALLY.

AND SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE FOLKS MAY DO THE COST BENEFIT AND BE LIKE, OKAY, UM, MAYBE I MIGHT JUST DO IT THIS WEEKEND.

IT'S FINE.

UM, SO THAT, YEAH, SO THAT SEEMS LIKE, UM, I MEAN, I'M, SO I'M GLAD THAT AIRBNB IS IN SUPPORT OF THOSE.

SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT, RIGHT.

EVERY SINGLE CENT THAT COMES IN FOR PEOPLE STAYING IN AUSTIN, WE OBVIOUSLY, AND THE OTHER PLATFORMS SORT OF CAN HANDLE THAT TRANSACTION AS WE DO.

UM, AND LET US HANDLE THAT AS WELL FOR THE HOT THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY OR THAT SHOULD GO TO THE CITY.

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UM, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE AN EXTRA LAYER THAT'S SORT OF, OF LIKE ACCOUNTING AND A PAIN FOR Y'ALL.

LIKE, WHY, WHY DOES AIRBNB SUPPORT IT? LIKE WHAT'S THE UPSIDE FOR YOU GUYS? YES.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT IS AN EXTRA LAYER OF WORK, BUT LUCKILY WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CATER TO THIS.

AND I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY LONGTERM, LIKE I I'VE BEEN TELLING CLUBS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IN THE MIDST OF THE PANDEMIC, I'D TAKE A STROLL, I NEEDED TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND GET SOME AIR.

I WALK TO PARTS OF THE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN NORMAL TIMES, I THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BY BASIS THERE'D BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON.

UM, AND I'D SEEN THE IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC ON VENUES.

YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SHUTTERED, ET CETERA FOR US.

I THINK, I THINK OF IT TWO WAYS.

SO ONE, YES, IT IS A COST FOR THE BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

SO, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE COMPLEX FOR CITIES TO TAKE ON THIS TASK THEMSELVES.

AND SO IF WE HAVE THAT EFFICIENCY AND WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT TO BE ABLE TO DO SO THEN IT MAKES SENSE.

AND SECONDLY, BOTH AS A PROFESSIONAL, WORKING AT AIRBNB, BUT ALSO AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES HERE IN THE CITY, LIKE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MONEY GOES TO THE PLACES THAT I SORT OF, I'M A PATRON AT THAT I'VE BENEFITED FROM GOING TO SHOWS AND GO INTO AND SEE MUSIC IN ALL THESE PLACES TO THE MUSICIANS THEMSELVES.

UM, CAUSE I KNOW THAT SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT FOR US, LIKE I SAID, BOTH NOT JUST FROM A, FROM A COMPANY STANDPOINT, BUT AS AN, AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

UM, SO I I'D SAY THAT THOSE ARE THE SORT OF THE CHIEF MOTIVATIONS FOR WHY WE THINK THIS MAKES THE MOST SENSE AND WOULD THIS, UM, SO THIS ORDINANCE, WOULD IT AFFECT THE WAY OR THE DEGREE TO WHICH STRS ARE REGULATED IN AUSTIN? SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO CALL OUT THAT THIS IS THE ATTACKS COMPONENT OF THINGS, RIGHT? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, I, I NAMED SOME OF THE CITIES WHERE WE HAVE THIS SORT OF ARRANGEMENT, INCLUDING SOME, THE STATES LIKE WE DO.

SO AT THE STATE LEVEL, UM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY IMPACT IT DIRECTLY, BUT IT IS SORT OF A TANGENTIAL, UH, PART OF THAT, UM, W W WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT LIES IN FRONT OF US TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT THAT MONEY, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S MANY HOSTS OUT THERE FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHETHER IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO FILL OUT THE FORMS. THEY'RE JUST, IT'S A CONVOLUTED PROCESS.

UM, THAT'S NOT TAKING PLACE, RIGHT.

WE, WHEN WE MET WITH THE CITY CONTROLLER, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY GAVE US THE $4 MILLION FIGURE, WHICH TO BE FAIR, IT'S FROM 2019.

SO IT'S A BIT OUTDATED, BUT IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE THERE'S A RESOURCE ISSUE.

THERE MAY BE WHERE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOLKS GOING OUT THERE TO, YOU KNOW, FIND THE HOST AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO PAY OUT THAT KIND OF THING.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TACKLE THE, YOU HAVE TO USE THE ANALOGY OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TELL YOU USE AN EXTINGUISHER POINT AT THE BASE OF THE FIRE, WE'RE TRYING TO POINT IT AT THE BASE OF THE FIRE, WHICH IS IN THIS CASE WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING, IT'S FLOWING THROUGH OUR PLATFORM, WE CAN EASILY COLLECT AND REMIT THIS ON BEHALF OF THE HOST AND WHO IS THE, THE DEPARTMENT, OR CAUSE WE'RE HERE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND I THINK THIS IS NOT.

SO NOBODY IS LIKE, THANK GOD, NO ONE LESS THING FOR ME.

UM, SO WHO, WHAT IS THE GROUP, THE CITY DEPARTMENT, OR WHO IS THE MAIN GROUP? IS IT THE VISIT AUSTIN OR IS THERE ANOTHER GROUP AT THE CITY THAT WORKS WITH YOU ON THESE REGULATIONS AND WOULD BE THE ONE TO KIND OF WRITE THE ORDINANCE AND BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO US LIKE ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS AND HOW IT WOULD WORK? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, LOOK AT THAT.

SO THERE'S TWO WAYS OF DOING THIS.

ONE'S THE ORDINANCE ROUTE, THE OTHER, ONE'S JUST LIKE A, ON A BILATERAL BASIS, WHICH TO, I FORGET WHICH COMMISSIONER ASKED ME, UM, UH, BUT LIKE, OH, SORRY.

IT WAS A COMMISSIONER ON THE HOME.

UM, IT WAS, HEY, DO YOU HAVE THE, HAVE YOU HAD THIS CHAT WITH YOUR PARTNERS? THERE'S ALSO A WAY TO DO SO WHERE IT'S MORE PROCEDURAL.

UM, AND IT'S STRICTLY WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT STRICTLY WITH THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DO SO SORT OF ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE BASIS.

WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR IS TO SORT OF SHOW THAT THOSE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, THAT THERE IS BROAD-BASED SUPPORT FOR THIS KIND OF, UH, SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE SOLUTION FOR WHAT'S A REAL ISSUE.

AND, AND SOMETHING THAT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST 15, $20 MILLION KIND OF PARKED SOMEWHERE.

THEY NEEDED TO GO THROUGH WHERE THEY NEED TO.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE JUST HOPING TO UNLOCK THAT.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SUCCINCTLY IT'S IT'S, I THINK IT'S PRIMARILY, UH, FINANCE AND THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.

FUNDING AND LAUREN, YOU, UH, LAUREN GOAL GOULD HAS BEEN HELPING IS SERVING ON A WORKING GROUP ABOUT, UM, A JOINT GROUP AT THE ARTS COMMISSION WHERE WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AND I HAVE ONE, LIKE, KIND OF, THIS IS A TACK ON QUESTION.

THAT'S JUST ABOUT

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SO THIS IS, AND WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE FROM LAUREN A. LITTLE LATER IN THE MEETING, BUT, UH, ONE THING THAT WE HAD, UM, ONE OF THE ARTS COMMISSIONERS HAD BROUGHT UP, IS THAT THE POSSIBILITY FOR AIRBNB TO JUST ADD SORT OF A CHECK BOX, WHEN SOMEBODY MAKES A RESERVATION, THAT'S LIKE, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KICK IN AN EXTRA FIVE BUCKS THAT GOES TO, YOU KNOW, ARTS, ARTS, FUNDING, ARTS, AND MUSIC FUNDING IN AUSTIN.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO LIKE THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT? JUST THAT SIMPLE KIND OF BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST YOU'RE A DONATION THROUGH A RESERVATION.

I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THAT OUR COMMUNITY'S PROACTIVE ON A BROAD SET OF ISSUES, UM, WHETHER IT'S REFUGEES AND HOUSING REFUGEES, UM, OUR HOSTS AND THEN, AND I, AND I, I REMEMBER THIS POINT MENTIONING, UH, FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION, UM, OUR HOSTS ACTUALLY KICKED BACK TREMENDOUSLY TO THE CITY.

SO WHAT I PROPOSE TO THEM IS INSTEAD OF MAKING IT TO THE GUESTS, PUT IT SORT OF ADDRESS THAT TO THE HOSTS.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS IT MAKES IT A BIT EASIER FOR US TO WORK ON THE BACK END ON, UM, ON THAT SORT OF LIKE HOW WE GET THE MONEY TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO, UM, GIVEN THAT WE LIVE IN TEXAS AND IT'S A STATE THAT DOESN'T LIKE NEW TAXES.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT GENERALLY PEOPLE ARE ALLERGIC TO, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY AGREE TO WHERE THOSE TAXES GO.

SO I THINK POISONING IT AS A QUESTION TO GUESTS LIKE, HEY, PAY SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY IS, IS, IS, IS PROBABLY A LESS SUCCESSFUL QUESTION.

THE POINT IN IT TO THE POSTS WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, LIKE YOU, YOU, YOU YOU'VE MADE THIS MUCH ON AIRBNB OR BRBO OR WHATEVER THIS MONTH.

HOW ABOUT THINKING OF LIKE A PERCENTAGE OF THAT TO GO BACK TO THESE SPECIFIC ISSUES, GROUPS, ET CETERA.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE WORKS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WITH ARTS COMMISSION AND WOULD LOVE TO JOIN ANY CONVERSATIONS IS I THINK THAT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA TO REALLY TIE OUR, A HOST BASE HERE IN THE CITY TO THE SUCCESS OF THE CITY, THE WAY THAT THEY KIND OF ALREADY ARE, BUT IN A MORE MEANINGFUL WAY THAT IS DIRECTING FUNDING TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR LUIS? YEAH.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

EVERYBODY START WITH LAUREN AND THEN GRAHAM AND THEN KNOCK BALI.

A MONTH OF MY MORTGAGE A MONTH, MY RENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

AND, UM, AND SPEAKING TO US ON THIS.

UM, SO, UH, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND THEN KIND OF A POSSIBLE FOLLOW-UP COMMENT.

UM, FIRST, UH, IF I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD THIS, WHEN IT FIRST CAME IN, UM, UH, WHEN THE, MAYBE I GUESS IN, IN 2016 OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE I USED TO, I USED TO HOST AIRBNB CASUALLY, AS YOU WERE SAYING.

UM, JUST AS A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, UH, MEET, MEET PEOPLE FROM OTHER PLACES.

AND I, I EXPERIENCED, I HAD GREAT EXPERIENCES USING AIRBNB WHEN I WAS TRAVELING AROUND AND I MET A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL FRIENDS AND, UM, IT WAS JUST A REALLY LOVELY CONNECTION POINT, UM, AND PROVIDING A REALLY, YOU KNOW, CHEAP ROOM, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO, TO STAY WHILE THEY WERE VISITING HERE.

UM, AND THEN THAT, THAT STUFF CAME IN AND IT JUST BECAME NO LONGER FEASIBLE FOR ME.

IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US TO DO IT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T DOING IT TO MAKE MONEY.

UM, AND SO, UM, WE JUST STOPPED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WERE LIKE, WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT RIGMAROLE, UM, FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, SMALL.

UM, AND SO MY QUESTION IS, IF, IF YOU SWITCHED OVER TO THIS METHOD, WOULD IT THEN BECOME YOUR PLANT? YOU'RE PAYING HOT AS A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT YOU BRING IN, AS OPPOSED TO LIKE A FLAT KIND OF A FEE TO USE THE SERVICE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, SO, SO YEAH, NO, THAT, THAT, THAT DEFINITELY MAKES SENSE.

AND LET ME CLEAR SOMETHING UP THERE.

THE HOST IS NOT ON THE HOOK FOR THE MONEY HERE.

IT'S THE MONEY THAT THE GUESTS PAY WHEN THEY COME AND VISIT, OR THEY COME TO STAY IN AUSTIN, RIGHT? SO THIS IS AN AVATAR OCCUPANCY TAX THAT THEY PAY, RIGHT.

WE'RE CURRENTLY WHAT WE COLLECT IS THE CITY THAT STARTED IS THE STATE PART OF IT 6%, BUT WE STILL ARE UNABLE TO COLLECT THE CITY COMPONENT.

UM, WE UNDERSTAND, LIKE THAT GOES TO A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CITY, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO JUST UNLOCK THAT AS I SAY, BUT TO YOUR POINT, UM, A LOT OF HOSTS MAY MAKE THAT DECISION WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, LOOK, I DON'T CARE TO BE HERE FOR SABA.

I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF TOWN.

I'M GOING TO HOST THAT MONTH.

THAT'S GOING TO PAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE

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UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, THE COMPLEXITY OF THE REPORTING AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS AROUND THIS SPECIFIC, UM, SORT OF, UH, ACTION, WHICH IS PAIN HOT, IT BECOMES SORT OF A RESTRICTIVE OR AN ONEROUS PROCESS FOR ONE TO TAKE ON.

AND SO IF WE JUST PACKAGE IT IN AND INTO THE COMMISSIONER'S EARLIER QUESTION ABOUT LIKE, WELL, WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU GUYS, I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO GET A BUNCH OF YOU RUNNING AROUND HAVING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

WE DO THIS IN HUNDREDS OF CITIES ACROSS THE WORLD.

WE'VE DEVELOPED A PLAYBOOK IF YOU HAD W YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, WE, WE PROPOSED SOMETHING EARLIER ON A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T HAVE A SMOOTH OPERATION ON THIS SENTENCE.

BUT NOW WE'VE SORT OF PACKED THIS INTO, LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A PRODUCT OFFERING, UH, FOR CITIES.

UM, AND SO WE DO THIS ACROSS MANY DIFFERENT CITIES IN THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.

UH, WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR THIS NOW, SO IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR US TO DO IT THEN FOR, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED, 200, 300, WHATEVER THE NUMBER POSTS EACH HAVE TO DO IT AND TAKE THAT ON THEMSELVES.

WELL, SO GOING BACK TO WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE IN IT FOR, YOU KNOW, AIRBNB, I MEAN, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING, DOING THIS FOR THE SAKE OF LIKE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS AWESOME.

UM, BUT I MEAN, ADDITIONALLY, I COULD SEE, LIKE, IF, IF I, AS A, AS A HOST, AS A CASUAL HOST WAS LIKE, I KNEW THAT AIRBNB WAS TAKING CARE OF THAT END OF THINGS.

THEN MAYBE I WOULD START HOSTING AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY THE ROOM I'M SITTING IN RIGHT NOW IS THE ROOM THAT WE USED TO RENT.

AND, UM, AND SO I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY BE EVEN GETTING MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE POTENTIAL CASUAL HOSTS, UM, THAT COULD, AND THEN MORE MUSICIANS LIKE MYSELF WHO MAYBE I WANT TO GET OUT OF TOWN FOR SALISBURY, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE LOCAL MUSICIANS ARE LIKE, COOL, I'M GOING TO TAKE THE WEEK OFF BECAUSE MOST OF MY REGULAR GIGS GOT CANCELED ANYWAY FOR CORPORATE STUFF, YOU KNOW? UM, AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD ACTUALLY LIKE, MAKE SOME REAL MONEY.

CAUSE THAT USED TO BE, THERE WERE SOME SOUTH BUYS WHERE I MADE WAY MORE MONEY RENTING OUT THE SPARE BEDROOM THAN I DID PLAYING THE 50 MILLION, YOU KNOW, GIGS, INDIE, ROCK GIGS AND STUFF THAT I PLAYED.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

IT SEEMS REALLY, AND I KNOW I DO HAVE ONE MORE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, BUT, UM, MAYBE I'LL SHUT UP FOR A SECOND CAUSE YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE RESPONSE AND THEN TO YOUR POINT THERE, I THINK THAT WE, I MEAN, LOOK, WE'VE DONE THIS WORK IN MANY CITIES ACROSS THE WORLD AND IN REGIMES WHERE YOU HAVE PROBABLY MORE COMPLEXITY TO THE COMPLIANCE COMPONENT AS A HOST.

IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE LIKE PEOPLE OVER TIME, THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, I KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

RULES IN PLACE, GIVE PEOPLE THE, YOU KNOW, THEY IT'S LIKE READING A MAP, BUT IT DOES TO YOUR POINT COMMISSIONER ON LIKE COMPOSITION OF HOSTS, IT TENDS TO PUSH MORE PROFESSIONALIZED POST.

SO IT TENDS TO DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT FOLKS LIKE YOURSELF, RIGHT.

WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, FUCK, I REALLY WAS TRYING TO JUST DO THIS ONCE A WEEK, ONCE A YEAR DURING SOUTH BY OR ACL AND HOW THERE'S TWO WEEKENDS OF ACL.

SO MAYBE BOTH WEEKENDS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, AND SO ABSOLUTELY, I THINK YOU HIT THE SPOT THERE ON YOU, YOU LAND ON A GOOD SPOT THERE WHERE IT'S LIKE, WE WANT TO HAVE MORE FOLKS WHO WANT TO DO IT CASUALLY BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE IN MANY CASES ARE THE ONES THAT MAYBE ARE FEELING MORE OF THE PAIN OF, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GET ENOUGH GIGS TO PAY MY RENT.

LIKE, CAN WE JUST GO FROM NOW FORWARD? UM, SO CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT ASPECT OF THINGS? I'M SORRY IF THAT WAS NOT CLEAR, BUT NO, FOR SURE.

UM, AND SO THEREFORE UNLOCKING THAT POSSIBILITY FOR THOSE FOLKS AS WELL.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, UH, I, I COULD SEE THAT BEING A POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, UM, EXTRA INCOME STREAM, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, WHICH COULD BE COOL.

UM, AND THEN, UH, MY, MY OTHER QUESTION IS WITH REGARDS TO KIND OF SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS WORKING GROUP, UH, JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION WORKING GROUP.

AND I WANT TO SEE IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, THAT THERE IS MAYBE ONE OF THE HURDLES, UH, HAS BEEN THAT IT'S, THEY'RE WANTING TO TRY TO COLLECT A LOT OF BACK TAXES.

UM, AND IT'S, AND FROM, UH, MAYBE POTENTIALLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE, WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ON TOP OF THIS AND THAT THEY'RE, IT'S LIKE, YOU CAN EITHER GO BACK AND LIKE COLLECT ALL THESE BACK TAXES AND LIKE GET ALL UP TO DATE AND THEN MOVE FORWARD, OR LIKE IT'S A ROADBLOCK.

AND SO WE WERE LIKE, THINKING, LIKE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN COLLECTING THESE, THESE, UH, TAXES THAT ARE NOT GETTING COLLECTED, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UM, NO, WE DON'T WANT ANY COLLATERAL DAMAGE IN THE PROCESS OF PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE THIS MASSIVE BACK TAX BILL, IT'S JUST

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AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT IS A SOLUTION MOVING FORWARD RIGHT.

CITY AND ITS VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS MAY CHOOSE OR NOT TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HAVE JUST NO DATA TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MAY HAVE.

SO WE CAN'T REALLY COME AFTER YOU.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFERENT ON AN INDIVIDUAL TO INDIVIDUAL BASED SOMEONE WHO IS REGISTERED AND JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON DID NOT TURN IN THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR REPORTING EVERY MONTH, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE LEGITIMATE OR OTHERWISE, LIKE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK.

I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT THERE'S THIS BIG, LIKE QUESTION MARK AS TO LIKE, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF MY REGISTRATION, MY LICENSE, ET CETERA.

LIKE, HOW CAN I PAY THIS MONEY? LIKE MY SUPER SPLIT IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT, LIKE WHERE DID IS I WAS SUPPOSED TO HIDE IT UNDER MY MATTRESS WHILE THE CITY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES ME THE AOK AND THEN I GUESS I COULD PAY IT TO THE CITY.

UM, SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING SORT OF TACKLES ALL THOSE, BUT IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, IT'S THE COMPLEXITY OF NEEDING TO GO AFTER THOUSANDS OF HOSTS, HUNDREDS OF HOSTS, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CITY, UM, THE COMPLEXITY FOR THE HOSTS TO HAVE TO DO THIS REPORTING EVERY MONTH, EVEN IN MONTHS WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANYONE STAYING WITH THEM.

UM, AND THEN TO YOUR POINT, JUST LIKE A, A, AN INFLECTION POINT OF LIKE, LOOK, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE HERE.

UM, I KNOW THESE MEETINGS I'VE, I'VE WATCHED THIS MEANS THEY TAKE A LONG TIME AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE GRAVITY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE FACE IN THIS CITY ARE LARGE.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE JUST SAW, YOU KNOW, REALLY LIKE HANGING OUT AT, UH, WHAT IS IT? 8:30 PM ON A TUESDAY OR A MONDAY.

UM, TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS WITH ME, CAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REAL, IT IMPACTS REAL PEOPLE.

SO IF WE COULD JUST DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS IN THIS MANNER, IT WILL HELP TACKLE A LOT OF IN CHECK, A LOT OF BOXES.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, JUST GOING BACK TO, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S QUESTIONNAIRE, IT'S LIKE, YEAH, I SEE IT HERE EVERY DAY.

I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN TO SOME OF YOU TO SOME OF THE FOLKS YOU WORK WITH.

UM, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY DIRE OUT THERE.

AND WE UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF THESE CHALLENGES.

SO LIKE LET'S JUST MAKE IT TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE A SOLUTION MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WILL DECIDE TO DO WITH THE BACK TAX QUESTION, WHAT WOULD THEY MAY, UM, BUT FROM HERE ON OUT THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE OR THAT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE OF BACK TAX.

I'VE GOT A SORT OF FEW COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ORDER TO PUT THEM IN, BUT THE, THE MAIN ONE IS, IS IT SEEMS OBVIOUS, LIKE AN OBVIOUS.

AND THERE'S AN OBVIOUS, UH, BONUS, YOU KNOW, LIKE FREE MONEY COMING TOWARDS MUSIC AND ARTS.

HOW, HOW COULD WE POSSIBLY, COULD I KNOW.

AND WHEN IT, WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE SUCH A GIFT THAT ALSO DOES JUST THAT RED FLAG OF LIKE, UH, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING MORE COMPLEX TO THIS ISSUE.

AND, UM, SO I I'D LIKE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS.

AND, UH, BECAUSE IF IT, YOU KNOW, THAT IF THE POSITIVE OUTWEIGHS, WHATEVER THOSE COMPLEXITIES ARE, THEN, THEN IT'S GREAT TO TAKE ACTION WHEN WE CAN AND MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY LIKE AIRBNB, A CORPORATE COMPANY, LIKE AIRBNB SAYS, THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING TO BE NICE.

THAT THAT'S, I MEAN, YOU MAY BE DOING IT TO BE NICE, BUT THE CORPORATION DOESN'T DO THINGS TO BE NICE.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY CORPORATIONS AND PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES WORK.

SO UNDERSTANDING REALLY WHAT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR LIKE WHAT IS THE PROFIT MOTIVE? WHAT IS WHY THE SHAREHOLDERS SUPPORT THIS? AND BECAUSE ULTIMATELY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE SHAREHOLDERS AND WHAT IS THEN ALSO YOU PRESENTED THE POLLING DATA, WHICH WAS, UH, AND, AND SAID THAT IT WAS A GOOD CROSS SECTION, BUT IT WAS 70% WHITE, WHEREAS AUSTIN IS 50% WHITE.

AND THE COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE BEEN MOST NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY GEN GENTRIFICATION ARE THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LESS REPRESENTED IN YOUR POLLING NUMBERS.

AND I'D BE CURIOUS IF THE POSITIVE RESPONSES MAY, UH, WHETHER THEY'D BE AS POSITIVE, IF THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN MOST IMPACTED BY GENTRIFICATION WERE FULLY REPRESENTED IN, IN YOUR POLLING DATA.

SO, SO I GUESS I'M ASKING YOU TO TELL US, WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT AGAINST THIS, IF YOU WERE GONNA FLIP SIDES IN THE DEBATE AND TELL US WHY WE SHOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS, WHAT ARE THOSE REASONS? YEAH, NO, I THINK YOU BRING A REALLY

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GREAT POINTS.

COMMISSIONER REYNOLDS.

UM, SO ON I'LL TACKLE THE LAST ONE.

UM, WE, WE CAN SHARE THE CROSS-SECTION DATA WITH YOU, SO YOU COULD SEE JUST SPECIFICALLY IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS SORT OF WHAT THOSE RESPONSES ARE LIKE.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR, TO YOUR BROADER POINT HERE TO YOUR BROADER QUESTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE W WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE SORT OF DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ROLE HERE OR POSITION HERE? UM, I THINK SOME OF THOSE POINTS YOU'VE ALREADY KIND OF ALLUDED TO IN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, HEY, WELL, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE MAYBE YOUR FULL WAS REPRESENTATIVE FOR SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT REPRESENT MORE THAN 50 OR ABOUT 15% OF THE CITY.

NON-WHITE UM, I THINK THE ONE THING I'D SAY THERE IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING WE LIVE IN A CITY AS A ONE COMMISSIONER SAID EARLIER, THAT IS INCREDIBLY POPULAR.

UH, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT I'VE MET ELSEWHERE, WHO HAVE MOVED HERE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, IT'S BANANAS.

UM, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND SORT OF LIKE WHAT THE COUNTER-ARGUMENT OR THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE POSITION WOULD BE, RIGHT? IT'S, YOU KNOW, DISPLACEMENT, GENTRIFICATION INCREASED HOUSING COSTS, ET CETERA, WHAT I'D SAY TO THAT.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE NUANCE OF THE MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT PLAY IN TO CREATING A CITY THAT IS INCREASINGLY MORE EXPENSIVE, WELL WE'VE NOTED OR WHAT WE'D SEEN IN THE DATA.

AND, AND, AND I ALLUDED TO A BIT THE, THE SORT OF THE FOUNDATION, THE FOUNDING STORY OF AIRBNB, OUR THREE CO-FOUNDERS POPPED UP IN THEIR BED WHEN THEIR LANDLORD RAISED THE RENT.

I THINK SOMETHING LIKE 30% DURING AN EVENT, THERE WAS LIKE A DESIGN CONFERENCE IN SAN FRANCISCO.

SO THEY GOT CRAFTY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY.

A LOT OF FOLKS LIKE COMMISSIONER GOULD JUST POINTED OUT HERE, GET GRAFTED WHEN IT COMES TO HOSTING ON AIRBNB, JUST FINDING DIFFERENT SOURCES OF INCOME, UNDERSTANDING THAT MAYBE THEIR CURRENT SOURCES OF INCOME IS INCREDIBLY VARIABLE AND IN A CITY THAT IS INCREASINGLY MORE EXPENSIVE, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE IT TO THE END OF THE MONTH.

UM, I THINK THERE'S MUCH TO BE SAID ABOUT THE MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS WHEN IT COMES TO ZONING, WHEN IT COMES TO SORT OF JUST THE HUGE INFLUX OF PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTE TO HOW EXPENSIVE AUSTIN IS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT, UH, SORT OF THIS THUS DEFINITELY DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT COMMUNITIES WITH LAST ONES LIKE MY OWN, UM, AND, AND, AND BLACK COMMUNITIES IN EAST AUSTIN, UM, AS WELL.

AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THOSE CHALLENGES, BUT JUST THE LAST THING I'LL SAY HERE IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS SPECIFIC THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO HOT, WE KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY GOES, RIGHT.

THERE IS AN INCREASED EFFORT TO GET THAT MONEY, NOT JUST INTO THE CONVENTION CENTER, BUT TO THE MUSICIANS, TO THE VENUES, ET CETERA, TO MAKE IT A MORE EQUITABLE BREAKDOWN THAT MONEY'S ALREADY THERE.

THESE DAYS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING.

THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO AUSTIN, THEY'RE BOOKING AIRBNB OR BOOKING BRBS THEY'RE COMING HERE, RIGHT.

IT'S JUST TO LOOK AT THAT POOL OF MONEY AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK WOULD BE A MISTAKE.

UM, AND SO THEREFORE, LIKE W WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS LIKE, TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THIS MONEY, UM, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHERE IT GOES AND WE'VE STUDIED IT TO, TO, TO A LARGE EXTENT, AND WE KNOW THAT IT CAN DO SOME REAL GOOD.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M STRONGLY INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS MYSELF.

SO THE OTHER THING THAT JUST NOTED THAT YOU HAVE A WHOLE PAGE OF CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORTERS AND THEY'RE FRIENDS OF OURS AND PEOPLE WE'VE WORKED AT, UH, BUT NOT A PAGE OF MUSIC SUPPORTERS.

I KNOW MUSIC IS AN ART AND IT GETS VERY CONFUSING, BUT WE HAVE A, UH, AN ARTS COMMISSION.

WE HAVE MUSIC COMMISSION AND, UH, BOTH, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR YOU TO DO SOME OUTREACH TO SOME OF THE, BOTH THE MUSICIANS AND, UH, SOME OF THE MUSIC NON-PROFITS AS WELL, JUST TO, TO BALANCE OUT THAT SUPPORT A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK YOU'D FIND A LOT OF SUPPORT IN THAT COMMUNITY.

IT USED TO BE THE CULTURAL ARTS WAS HOT FUNDED AND MUSIC WASN'T, BUT NOW, UH, NOW THERE'S A SLICE OF THAT PIE FOR BOTH SIDES.

SO, UH, AND THAT, THAT'S IT FROM ME.

THESE TWO, NOT NECESSARILY, I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE SECOND PROJECT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAY TAKE SOME TIME.

AND CAM YEAH, I THINK, UM, UH, GRAHAM, YOU COVERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, UM, UH, LOUIS, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO, DID YOU JUST, SO I'M ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, WHEN YOU SAY DISAGREEMENT, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY REFERRING TO PLATFORMS, BEING ABLE TO COLLECT WHAT TAX FOR THE CITY, THE TAX COMPONENT, THE CITY COMPONENT OF A DIRECTLY, OR YOU ALREADY COLLECT THE STATE COMPONENT OF IT RIGHT NOW.

UH, THE SECOND PIECE OF IT IS ALONG WITH IT, THERE WILL NEED TO BE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SDR LICENSING PROCESS THAT THE CITY HAS TODAY.

THEY HAVE TO GO HAND IN HAND ON THAT

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UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD THINGS SORT OF MY WAY, I'D BE HAVING THIS PRESENTATION MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO, BUT WE ALL KNOW THESE THINGS TAKE SOME TIME, UM, THE, THE TAX COMPONENT OF IT, IT CAN ACTUALLY BE FAIRLY SIMPLE.

UM, THE EXERCISE WE'RE DOING HERE, IT'S DEMONSTRATE NOT JUST TO YOU ALL, BUT HOPEFULLY WITH YOU ALL ON BOARD AS WELL, THAT THERE'S BROAD BASED SUPPORT FOR THIS.

THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE WHERE LIKE, NO, ONE'S TAKING A LOOK AT THIS.

THEY'RE LIKE, STR Y H O T WHAT I THINK THIS GROUP PROBABLY MORE THAN, THAN MANY OTHERS UNDERSTANDS WHAT EACH OF THOSE ACRONYMS MEAN.

UH, BUT NO, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE TIED.

UM, THEY CAN GET, CAN GO SORT OF ON SEPARATE PROCESSES, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY IMPLIED DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.

AS COMMISSIONER PATTERSON WAS ASKING ME FINANCE AND THE COUNTRY CONTROLLER DEPARTMENT STAFF REALLY MORE THAN, THAN COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE TAX PART.

SO I MIGHT, I MIGHT BE GETTING INTO MORE DETAIL THAN I NEED TO IT RIGHT HERE.

BUT, UH, UH, THE CITY PENALIZES POTENTIALLY FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE A LICENSE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, RENT A ROOM OUT ON AIRBNB, IF THEY FIND OUT, UH, IF YOU'RE COLLECTING CITY TAXES, UH, DIRECTLY FROM THE PLATFORM, A WOUND THAT HAS AN IMPLICATION ON FOLKS, OR IN SOME WAY THAT MAYBE OPERATING WITHOUT A LICENSE, LIKE HOW DO YOU LIKE WORK THAT OUT? I MEAN, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING THAT THESE HAVE TO GO HAND IN HAND, BUT YOU WILL GET A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE SOME KIND OF FORM OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

I GET THE POINT AND I WOULD SAY IT'S SOMEWHAT ANALOGOUS EXPLAIN THE DRUGS, RIGHT? LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DIVISION BETWEEN YOUR ARMS AND GRIP AND YOU'RE ALIVE BEGINNING OF THE BASE TRUMP, THE TASK COMPONENT WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT SORT OF LIKE TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY FOR A CITY TO BE ABLE TO PENALIZE SOMEONE, FIND SOMEONE FOR VIOLATIONS OF AN ORDINANCE.

THE TASK OPPONENT JUST BASICALLY MEANS LET'S SET UP THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO WHERE, WHEN SOMEONE COMES AND STAYS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WHEN THEY BOOK AN AIRBNB, WHEN THEY BOOK A BRBO, ET CETERA, THAT THAT MONEY CAN GO TO THE CITY DIRECTLY, THAT IT'S NOT DEPENDENT ON THAT PERSON.

THEN HAVING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL ACTION TO BE ABLE TO REMIT THIS PAYMENT DIRECTLY TO THE CITY.

AND LIKE ONE OTHER THING I MENTIONED, LIKE AS PART OF THE 2016 EFFORT, WHAT WE HAD SORT OF COMING RIGHT AFTER THAT IS THE MORATORIUM ON THE LICENSES.

SO THERE WERE FOLKS WHO WERE SEEKING TO GET THE LICENSES, BUT COULD NOT GET YEAH, RIGHT.

THAT EFFECTIVELY CUT THOSE FOLKS OFF FROM BEING ABLE TO PAY THE HOP FUNDING.

THEY'RE REALLY, FROM WHAT WE GATHER HAS NOT BEEN MUCH IN TERMS OF CODE COMPLIANCE ACTION ON FOLKS.

I THINK PRECISELY FOR THAT SAME POINT, IT BASICALLY HIT A HUGE PAUSE ON THE REGULATORY SIDE OF THINGS AS IT RELATES TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS THE TAX COMPONENT CAN SORT OF LIVE ON AND MOVE ON SPECIALLY IN THE CURRENT SITUATION WHERE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, THE CITY HAS BOUNCED BACK TOURISM WISE, I THINK MUCH BETTER THAN WE ALL EXPECTED IT TO.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY CLEAR.

I MEAN, I MEAN, WITH, WITH, UH, WITH THIS MONEY COMING TOWARDS HOCHMAN AND, AND, UH, THE IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE, UM, ON WHAT WE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS LOOKING TO DO FOR MUSICIANS AND CREATIVES, UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY THRILLING, UH, THAT THE PROSPECT OF THIS IS VERY THRILLING FOR ME.

AND I'M SURE, UH, A LOT OF, UH, COMMISSIONERS HERE.

UM, IT, UH, YOU, YOU PRESENTED ALREADY AT THE ART COMMISSION, RIGHT.

WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE LIKE? DID YOU, UH, WHAT KIND OF A RESPONSE DID YOU HAVE THERE? OH, OH, WE LOST IT.

UM, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN GREAT QUESTIONS ON THIS TONIGHT.

UM, SO I FEEL LIKE, UH, AND, UH, APPRECIATE LOUIS SO MUCH.

I THINK WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF PROCESS QUESTIONS THAT ARE PROBABLY, UH, THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DIRECT TOWARDS CITY STAFF WHO CAN ANSWER JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S GONNA WORK.

AND, UM, THAT, I MEAN, I DEFINITELY LIKE, WE ALL, WE LOVE THE IDEA OF BRINGING IN MORE MONEY, BUT I THINK BEFORE I COULD PERSONALLY LIKE COMPETENTLY WRITE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON IT, I WOULD JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE SPECIFICS.

SO I THINK, UH, UH, SCOTT, SCOTT, A COMMENT, BUT I THINK HE'S ALWAYS BACK.

W I M MY FEELING IS WE MADE, UM, PITCH A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS TO CITY STAFF, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND, UM, MORE ABOUT HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK.

LET ME START WITH JUST SAYING,

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SO WE, I MEAN, WE APPRECIATE YOU SHOULDING ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS, WE HAD A TON.

UM, BUT, UH, YEAH.

AND SO WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE MORE FOR STAFF.

OH, I THINK WE LOST HIM AGAIN.

UM, YEAH, I KNOW LAUREN'S HAVING SOME ISSUES TOO WITH IT'S BACK.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO D SO NAGA MOLLY'S QUESTION WAS WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSION, UM, WHAT WERE THEIR COMMENTS IN GENDER? LIKE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHERE, LIKE THE KEY KEY POINTS, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE THAT YOU GOT FROM THE ART COMMISSION, THE ARTS COMMISSION AT THESE MUTED.

HE'S STUCK IS STUCK ON MUTE.

UM, YEAH.

SO WE CAN ALSO ASK ARTS COMMISSION THAT QUESTION AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON IT.

UM, I THINK, I THINK ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS, UM, WITH, I MEAN, I'M KIND OF IN, IN, IN, IN THE GRAND BOAT WITH THIS, AS YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE, AND I'M VERY, UH, I'VE HAD TALKS WITH SELENA FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

I'M KIND OF, SORT OF, SORT OF WORKING WITH LAUREN ON THIS, BUT IT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHO OWNS A PROPERTY AND WHO IS RENTING A PROPERTY, AND IF YOU'RE RENTING A PROPERTY, DO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ACTUALLY BE LEASING THAT PROPERTY OUT? BECAUSE TECHNICALLY YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THAT ANYWAY, BECAUSE YOU VIOLATE THE TERMS OF YOUR LEASE.

SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT WAS PART OF, I THINK THE CONVERSATION AND THE, UM, WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS IN THE, IN THE THIRD CIRCUIT COURTS, I COULD BE A LITTLE BIT WRONG ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK THAT BASICALLY STR IS BEING WHO OWNS A PROPERTY.

IF YOU HAVE A HOMESTEAD, VERSUS IF YOU'RE RENTING A PROPERTY, YOU DON'T, THAT MIGHT, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THERE.

BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UM, HOUSING PRICES ARE GOING UP SO MUCH IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT ARE BUYING UP HOUSES ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS OR SEEN THIS OR NOT.

IT'S LIKE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SANELY CRAZY, LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

LIKE YOU, I MEAN, THERE'S WHOLE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE JUST BEING LIKE BUILT AND BEFORE THE STREETS ARE LAID OUT, THEY'RE BOUGHT UP BY THESE COMPANIES.

AND SO IT'S, UM, UH, WHAT'S TO SAY, AND I'M NOT DOGGING ON AIRBNB OR ANY OF THAT STUFF, BUT WHAT'S TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IF WE CAN SAY, WELL, IF YOU'RE RENTING A PROPERTY, IF YOU ALL ARE PROPERTY, WHATEVER, WE CAN DO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL THING AND JUST HAVE THAT BE WHAT IT IS, WHICH BASICALLY WE MAKE WE WATER DOWN THE RULES, MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO HOST.

WELL, THEN CORPORATIONS COULD THEN JUST KIND OF COME IN AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUY A BUNCH OF HOUSES.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GOT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S SPONSORED BY AIRBNB, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT, AND YOU KNOW, THAT MONEY 15 TO 20 MILLION EXTRA DOLLARS IN THE, IN THE HOT FUND DOES SOUND, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SWEETENED THE POT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ALSO KIND OF, UM, IT COULD BE A GOLDEN CALF.

WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, ASK MORE QUESTIONS.

SO, YEAH, I JUST, UM, I JUST, YEAH, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, JUST ONE LAST COMMENT THAT, THAT, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER REYNOLDS, I SAID, YEAH, HE KIND OF ASKED THAT QUESTION.

UH, BUT YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED IN HEARING YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT LOUIS, BECAUSE IF PORTABILITY IS A HUGE CONVERSATION, UH, IN AUSTIN, IT'S A HUGE ISSUE IN AUSTIN.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME OF THE SDRS, UM, AND THAT WHOLE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING THE STRS, UM, HAVE BEEN KIND OF, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT AS BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING UP THE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY HERE IN, UM, THE COST OF HOUSING HERE IN AUSTIN.

SO IF YOU JUST HAD SOME, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT, SO IN A WAY, LIKE WE'RE GETTING MONEY HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE MIGHT BE GAMING, UH, ESSENTIALLY WITH EXPANDING SDRS OKAY.

UM, SO AGAIN, YEAH, I THINK I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MAKE THIS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

UH, FROM AIRBNB UNITS IN AUSTIN.

UM, SO YEAH, SO, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A MORE EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION ON, UH, COLLECTING HOT,

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I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THEM AGENDA ITEMS AT THE END.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET SOME HOMEWORK DONE AHEAD OF TIME.

GREAT.

3D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, FOLLOWING AN UPDATE, UH, FROM KIM MCCARSON PR PROJECT PROGRAM MANAGER MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.

WELL, THAT'S REMIND ME WHAT I JUST SAID AND 45 MINUTES FROM NOW.

UM, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE, WE S I'M SORRY ABOUT THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY AT THE END, BUT YOU, UH, YOU WERE A CHAMP.

WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS TONIGHT.

UM, AND SO I'M, I ASSUME YOU ARE OPEN TO QUESTIONS, SO JUST, UH, WE'LL REACH OUT IF WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOU.

AND THANK YOU NOW TO BALI FOR, UH, INVITING YOU.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[3D. Discussion and Possible Action on the Live Music Fund following update by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music and Entertainment Division.]

HELLO, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

UH, SO WE ARE PRESENTING TONIGHT THE REVISED, UH, GUIDELINES FOR THE LIVE MUSIC EVENT PROGRAM.

UH, THIS, UH, UH, COMMISSION HAD ASKED FOR SOME CHANGES ON THE USES OF FUNDS, WHICH HAVE NOW BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE GUIDELINES.

AND OF COURSE THERE WERE CHANGES REGARDING, UH, THE LEGAL PRESENTATION THAT YOU ALL HAS HAD, I THINK, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UH, REGARDING SCORING FOR RACE AND ETHNICITY.

SO THOSE CHANGES HAVE ALSO BEEN MADE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO THE, UH, SO THEN THE NEXT ONE, THERE WE GO.

UH, NEXT, NEXT SLIDE.

THERE WE GO.

SO THE, UH, THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM, OF COURSE, HASN'T CHANGED.

THIS WAS, UH, UH, BASED ON, UH, UH, THE FUND IS REC IS A BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE VISITORS TASK FORCE.

UM, AND, UM, THE, UH, USES ARE WHAT HAS CHANGED THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE GO INTO THAT IN MORE DETAIL, THE, UH, LIVE MUSIC PROGRAM PURPOSE IS STILL TO ENCOURAGE, PROMOTE, IMPROVE, AND SHOWCASE THE DIVERSE LIVE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

UM, AND NOW WITH, UH, ONLINE MUSIC EVENTS, LIVE MUSIC EVENTS, RECORDING STUDIO, PRODUCTION, MUSIC, VIDEO PRODUCTION REPLICATION, WHICH INCLUDES VINYL CD, CASSETTE PRINTING BROADCASTING, WHICH INCLUDES RADIO AND TV BROADCASTS.

UM, AND THE, UH, THE PEOPLE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY ARE STILL PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, BANDS, AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, THE, UH, THE PRINCIPLES OF PRESERVATION, INNOVATIVE INNOVATION AND ELEVATION, UH, PI ARE STILL SUPPORTED IN THIS, UH, THESE GUIDELINES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE ELIGIBILITY DEFINITIONS, UM, THESE HAVE NOT CHANGED, UH, FOR THE PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN OR THE INDEPENDENT PROMOTER.

SO I'LL, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE AGAIN, UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO REVIEW THEM.

UH, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND THE, UH, ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

UH, SO, UH, PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS WHO LIVE IN THE MSA, OF COURSE, THESE, THESE HAVE NOT CHANGED EITHER.

UM, AND WE WENT OVER WHAT THE MSA, WHAT, WHAT ALL IS INCLUDED IN THAT TRAVIS WILLIAMSON HAYES, BASS DROP CALDWELL COUNTIES, UM, AND THE INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS ALSO WHO LIVE IN THE MSA AND, UM, UH, ONE APPLICATION PER INDIVIDUAL MUSICIAN BAND OR PROMOTER, UM, MUSICIANS CAN BE IN MULTIPLE BANDS RECEIVING AWARDS, BUT ONLY ONE BAND LEADER PER APPLICANT.

UM, THEY HAVE TO BE 18 YEARS OR OLDER TO APPLY, AND NO CITY OF AUSTIN EMPLOYEES WOULD BE ELIGIBLE.

SO THIS PART HAS CHANGED AND, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT, UH, TERM FOR, UH, FOR THIS, THIS PERIOD.

AND THAT WARDS WOULD BE SET AT $20,000 EACH.

SO THE AMOUNT OF THE WARS IS NOW CHANGED IN THE TIMEFRAME IS A LITTLE LONGER, UH, THE FIRST DISBURSEMENTS OF FUNDS, UH, WOULD BE 50% UPFRONT UPON EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT.

AND THEN THE REMAINING AMOUNT OF THE AWARD THAT WE'VE PAID OUT OVER THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT, INCLUDING NIGHT OF SHOW SETTLEMENT, AND 10%, THE FINAL 10 WILL BE PAID UPON RECEIPT OF THE FINAL REPORT.

UM, AND ANYTHING THAT'S, LET'S NOT USED ANY REMAINING MONIES WOULD GO BACK INTO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

UH, OF COURSE EXCLUDING CAPITAL EXPENDITURES WOULD BE COVERED.

SO THESE ARE THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, AND YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE, BUT WE HIGHLIGHTED TWO THINGS THAT WERE CHANGED TO REFLECT THE NEW USES.

AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, CONTRACTORS FOR EVENT STUDIO AND VIDEO PRODUCER, UH, WOULD BE COVERED AND STUDIO PRODUCTION AND RENTAL EXPENSES OF,

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SO NOW THIS SLIDE IS VERY DIFFERENT.

SO THE, THIS IS THE SCORING CRITERIA AND, UH, THE, THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT HERE.

SO THE FIRST ONE ACCESS TO SERVICES, 30 POINTS, UM, ALL OF THESE BULLETS WOULD REPRESENT THINGS THAT YOU COULD SCORE POINTS FOR.

SO THE APPLICANT DEMONSTRATES, SO A GREAT LEVEL OF URGENT NEED LIKE ACCESS TO HEALTH SERVICES OR FINANCIAL CAPACITY AND SUPPORT, UM, AND, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, OR THE PROJECT WOULD BE IN A QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACT.

UH, SO YOU COULD HAVE POINTS FOR THAT PRESERVATION 20 POINTS, UH, THE PROJECT CELEBRATES AND SHOWCASES DIVERSE CULTURAL HERITAGE AND MUSIC HISTORY.

UH, THE PROJECT IS PRESENTED AND PRODUCED IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL INHERITANCE DISTRICT COULD EARN POINTS FOR YOUR APPLICATION.

UH, INNOVATION IS ANOTHER CATEGORY FOR 20 POINTS.

UM, WE'RE PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS, UH, ACCESSIBLE TOOLS AND TECHNOLOGIES AND ENSURING THE PROJECT IS, UM, REVENUE GENERATING AND CAN BE ACCESSED BY A WIDE RANGE OF RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

SO NEW TECHNOLOGIES, UM, AND THE MARKETING PLAN, OF COURSE, UM, TRYING TO EXPAND AUDIENCES AND, UH, AND ATTRACTING TOURISTS, ELEVATION AND COLLABORATION IS, UH, 20 UP TO 20 POINTS.

AND, UM, THIS IS, UM, THE DEMONSTRATION OF A CRITICAL NEED FOR PROFESSIONAL OR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

UM, ALSO PROJECTS THAT HIGHLIGHT EMERGING PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, UM, OR NEW COLLABORATORS OR PARTNERS WOULD RECEIVE POINTS AND THEIR APPOINTS ATTACHED TO THE EVENT, BUDGET TEMPLATE.

CAN CONTINUE ON, UM, AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT, UH, DID THE PROGRAM LEAD TO INCREASED AUDIENCE REACH WHERE THOSE AUDIENCES EXPANDED AND NEW PROFESSIONAL, UH, OPPORTUNITIES ARE, WERE NEW, UH, PROFESSIONAL OPPORTUNITIES CREATED AN INCOME ATTACHED TO THAT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO THE CONTRACT COMMITMENTS IS ANYONE WHO WOULD RECEIVE MONEY OR WHO WOULD BE AWARDED FUNDS UNDER THIS PROGRAM WOULD NEED TO AGREE TO THE FOLLOWING.

AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UH, PAYING PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, THE, TO HUNT THE AT MINIMUM OF $200 PER HOUR, UH, PER ARTIST AND CREATIVE WORKERS THAT 15, UH, PER HOUR AS A MINIMUM, THEY WOULD ALSO NEED TO AGREE TO ATTEND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, UH, WORKSHOPS, UH, UH, PANELS, SPEAKING, OPPORTUNITIES, WEBINARS, ET CETERA.

UM, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, MIGHT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, LEARNING HOW TO, UH, DO BETTER FINANCIAL PLANNING, UM, BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, TYPES OF SKILLS AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR MANAGEMENT STYLE OR YOUR TIME MANAGEMENT ABILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO THERE ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, UM, DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION IS ANOTHER CONTRACT COMMITMENT, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE UNDOING RACISM, UM, UNDOING, SYSTEMIC RACISM TRAINING, AND, UH, THE AUSTIN MUSIC EQUITY STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO THE, IN OTHER WORDS, THE, UH, AWARDEES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ATTEND TRAINING AND ALSO TO PRODUCE AN EQUITY STRATEGIC PLAN.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, IN ADDITION TO, UH, TO THESE, THERE ARE SOME REPORTING REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO COMMIT TO AS WELL, AND THAT'S AUDIENCE REPORTING.

SO EITHER DIGITALLY TRACKING, UH, WHERE YOUR AUDIENCE IS COMING FROM, COLLECTING ZIP CODES, DOING A SURVEY, UM, HOWEVER, UH, THEY WERE ABLE TO, UH, FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION, FINANCIAL REPORTING.

OF COURSE WE REQUIRE, UH, PROOF OF EXPENDITURES, LIKE RECEIPTS FOR THINGS THAT, THAT, UH, ARE BOUGHT WITH PROGRAM FUNDS ARE PAID FOR, WITH PROGRAM FUNDS, UM, A PROJECT OUTCOMES SURVEY.

SO THE FOLLOWING THINGS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL REPORT, AND THESE WOULD BE SELF-REPORTED BY THE AWARDEES AT THE END OF THEIR CONTRACT TERM.

SO THEY WOULD REPORT ON THEIR INCOME OR REVENUE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE WOULD BE MEASURING THESE THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, DID THE AWARD SERVE, UM, AS INCOME? I MEAN, WHAT DID, DID THE, UH, READING MY SLIDE WRONG HERE? DID THE, UH, DID THE INCOME THAT WAS AWARDED, UH, UH, REPRESENT MONEY THAT OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HAD, AND DID IT, UH, CREATE NEW INCOME STREAMS OR REVENUE STREAMS THAT THEY OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD? UH, SAME THING FOR BUSINESS SKILLS AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, ATTENDING THE TECHNICAL TRAININGS AND THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT DID THE WARDEE GAIN KNOWLEDGE, UH, THAT THEY MIGHT OTHERWISE NOT HAVE HAD THAT WOULD HELP SUSTAIN THEIR BUSINESS.

UM, THE THERE'S ALSO, UH, BLACK INDIGENOUS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR BIPOD TALENT IN COLLABORATION.

DID THE AWARDEE WORK WITH BIPAP TALENT AND COLLABORATORS, AND, UH, WERE THESE PARTNERSHIPS SOMETHING THAT

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UH, FINALLY WE HAVE THE, UH, THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UH, HAVE REQUESTED AND THE, UH, THE THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR WOULD ALSO BE WORKING WITH THE, UM, UH, COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

AND THOSE TWO WOULD COORDINATE, UM, THE, UH, THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR WOULD, UH, SUBCONTRACT WITH A PARTNER TO HELP, UM, WITH APPLICANT ELIGIBILITY IN VERIFYING ELIGIBILITY OF APPLICANTS, UM, AND WOULD, UH, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SCORING THE APPLICATIONS ONCE THEY'RE A VERIFIED.

UM, THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, WOULD ALL THE, WERE THE SUBCONTRACTOR THAT THEY WOULD CHOOSE WOULD ALSO HELP WITH A RESULT ACCURACY CHECK.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS TO SERVE AS A SECOND PAIR OF EYES, UH, TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS CORRECTLY EVALUATED AND SCORED, AND THEY DIDN'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES.

AND, UM, AND THEN, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE END OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES, UH, FOR THE THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.

THE CITY WOULD THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONTRACTING WITH THE AWARDEES AND FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS.

SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THAT, THAT SUMS UP THE, UH, THE NEW GUIDELINES.

AND, UM, LET ME KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, UH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FIRST OFF.

THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

UM, I DON'T KNOW, UM, UH, THERE'S A DELAY OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A, UH, UH, LIKE IF I WAS SLEEPING OR, OR MAYBE I MISSED THE LAST MEETING OR SOMETHING THE $20,000 OVER TWO YEARS, WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN? HAPPENED? SO I'LL TAKE THIS QUESTION.

SO WE GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE MAYOR OF MAKING LIKE A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROGRAM THAT WAS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, AS WELL AS BY THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

AND THEN TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL USES, THAT TAKES TIME, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRODUCTION OF A RECORD, AND THEN POTENTIALLY SOME SHOWS, VIDEOS, TOURING COMING OUT OF THAT RECORD.

THAT CYCLE CAN TAKE UP TO TWO YEARS AND COUPLE THAT WITH THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE $3.5 MILLION FOR OVER TWO YEARS TO TRY TO KEEP THOSE CONTRACTS DOWN TO A MANAGEABLE LEVEL.

SO JUST SETTING A SET AWARD THAT CAN COVER SEVERAL THINGS AT ALL OF THE ELEMENTS OF TRAINING AND SUPPORT OVER TWO YEARS.

SO THAT THAT $20,000 IS TRULY INVESTED IN THAT ARTISTS FOR TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE OR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THEIR CAREER, AND THEREFORE IN THE INDUSTRY AND ALL THE OTHER, UH, ELEMENTS THAT THAT AWARD WOULD SUPPORT, WHETHER IT'S STUDIO PRODUCTION, VIDEO PRODUCTION, LIVE, MUSIC EVENTS, YOU NAME IT.

AND SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOUGH IS AFTER THE RECORD IS DONE, THERE'S A VIDEO DONE.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME TYPE OF AUDIENCE LIKE SOME TYPE OF EVENT.

AND WHICH IS WHY THAT NAME EVENT IS STILL IN THE PROGRAM TO SERVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE TRUE KIND OF SOUL OF HOT PROGRAMS, WHICH IS TO BE ABLE TO PROMOTE ELEMENTS TO TOURISTS, TO AUSTIN.

AND SO TO HAVE IT CULMINATE IN AN EVENT IN AUSTIN OR A VIRTUAL EVENT, UH, SO THAT YOU SEE KIND OF THE FULL CYCLE OF PRODUCTION FROM SONGWRITING TO STUDIO PRODUCTION, VIDEO PRODUCTION, AND THEN EVENTS AND LIVE MUSIC.

I'M SAYING HE HAD MENTIONED THE TRANSFORMATIONAL COMPONENT THAT HE WAS HOPING TO SEE WITHIN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SPONSORING AND ARTISTS THROUGH AN ALBUM CYCLE, LIKE AN ENTIRE ALBUM CYCLE, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AN ARTISTS PUTTING ON A SHOW? CAUSE THOSE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT? BOTH IT WOULD BE A TWO YEAR PROGRAM FOR THAT ARTIST PROPOSES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS, THIS AND THIS, THAT IT COULD BE A PRODUCTION OF THE RECORD.

IT COULD BE A VIDEO AND THEN A SHOW TO PROMOTE, LIKE, LET'S SAY IT'S A PREMIERE FOR THE RECORD, UM, OR A RECORD RELEASE.

SO IT'S ALL OF IT.

UH, AND SO WE WANT THAT TO BE AN INVESTMENT THAT THE ARTISTS SEEDS AND WE, YOU KNOW, NO, THE MUSIC IS, IS $20,000 IS NOT A LOT, EVEN WHEN IT COMES TO THAT WHOLE CYCLE OF PRODUCTION THAT HAS POTENTIAL FOR AN ARTIST OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD, UH, OR THAT ARTIST HAS NEVER HAD THAT MUCH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT IS NEEDED TO REALLY, TRULY GET THE RECORD DONE AND THEN MARKET IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT REALLY DOES REACH A NEW AUDIENCE IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, GAIN NEW SALES AND NEW FANS, YOU NAME IT AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT PARLAY AND LEVERAGE INTO MORE SUCCESSFUL ENDEAVORS.

YOU SAID THIS CAME FROM THE MAYOR.

NO, NO, NO.

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AND SO BY HAVING A BIGGER INVESTMENT AND AN ARTIST OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE COULD PROVIDE SUPPORT TECHNICAL, TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT THAT'S, THAT COULD BE TRANSFORMATIONAL.

WE HOPE THAT IT IS.

UM, AND ALSO IT HELPS US, UM, YOU KNOW, MANAGE THAT MANY CONTRACTS OVER TWO YEARS SO THAT WE CAN REALLY WORK ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE AWARDEES TO REALIZE SUCCESS FOR THESE PROJECTS.

THIS MONEY COULD HELP RAISE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, YOU KNOW, FROM OTHER SOURCES.

I, I WAS, I WAS JUST, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS LIKE FOR LIKE A ONE TIME, LIKE, OR MAYBE A TWO TIME, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO DO AN EVENT, MAYBE HAVE A COUPLE OF EVENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY WERE GOING TO CALL IT A DAY, THE ARTISTS GET PAID KIND OF THING, WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO DO THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT STUFF ON THE BACK END, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WORKS.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, BLACK FRED FOR INSTANCE WILL, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE LUCKY THEY GET A BIG GRANT AND MAYBE IT'S $30,000 AND THAT'S FOR LIKE A YEAR, I MEAN, $20,000 OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS TO, TO, TO, TO MAKE AND DEVELOP AN ARTIST.

THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

LIKE IT'S, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT I DON'T SEE.

I DON'T SEE HOW THAT LIKE, UM, UM, IS, IS, IS GO AHEAD SHOTGUN.

YEAH, MAN.

I MEAN, THIS WAS NEVER, THIS WAS NEVER A CURE ALL FOR LIKE EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, ARTISTS NEEDS TO DO.

THEY, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO TO TRY TO DO THIS IS THIS COULD BE PART OF A SUPPLEMENT, A CERTAIN PIECE OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IN GENERAL.

I'M AN ARTIST OR AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER TRYING TO USE THIS AS THEIR ENTIRE, UM, FUNDING FOR A PROJECT.

UM, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST, UH, IDEA FOR THE FUND, BUT OF COURSE THEY CAN, BUT THIS IS THIS, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE ALBUM, THESE ARE ALL JUST IDEAS.

THESE ARE JUST POSSIBLE THINGS THAT ANYONE CAN DO, UM, AND USES FOR THE FUNDS.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THAT INDIVIDUAL OR INDIVIDUALS, UM, TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA.

IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

IT COULD BE A RESIDENCY AT ANTON'S WE'RE GOING TO DO, UM, YOU KNOW, FIVE SHOWS A YEAR FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, AND WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP A COMMUNITY OF, OF BLACK BLUES PLAYERS, WHATEVER.

UM, IT, THE CONCEPTS IS TOTALLY OPEN AND, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS NEVER SOMETHING WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 10,000 BEFORE, SO WE'RE JUST ADDING ANOTHER YEAR TO US.

THAT'S 20,000.

UM, AND THIS IS NEVER SOMETHING WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS GOING TO CURE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED FOR YOUR PROJECT.

THIS IS LIKE, OKAY, IF YOU HAVE A BIG IDEA, YOU KNOW, LIKE A FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN YOU CAN USE THIS $10,000 FOR PERHAPS YOUR MARKETING OR $10,000 FOR, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO PAY YOUR HEADLINER, UM, AS A, AS A PORTION OF YOUR BUDGET.

RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE VARIETY OF PROJECTS I'M SURE ARE GOING TO DIFFER.

AND, UM, I THINK THIS THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR THAT.

AND, UM, IT WAS, IT'S IT, I DON'T, I NEVER SAW IT AS LIKE, OKAY, THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS GONNA LIKE GIVE YOU FUNDING TO LIKE, BOOST YOUR ENTIRE CAREER WITH THIS.

ONE-SHOT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A DEVELOPMENT ASPECT.

AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING ON THIS JOURNEY, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE A LOT OF PERSONAL RISK, YOU KNOW, YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, SO, I MEAN, THAT'S HOW I SEEN.

SO, UH, THIS IS KIM HERE, IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD, UH, JUST ONE MOMENT, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ERICA WOULD, UM, COULD THE APPLICANT OR THE AWARDEES, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL TWO YEARS IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO, IF THEY WANTED TO FINISH A PRO, UH, PROJECT IN A YEAR, THEY COULD WRITE YOUR CONTRACTS BECAUSE, UM, WE, YES, THESE ARE TWO YEAR CONTRACTS BECAUSE WE KNOW SOMETIMES THINGS TAKE TIME AND YOU NEED AN EXTENSION.

SO IF YOU GET THE $20,000 WORTH OF WHAT THAT IS DONE IN THE FIRST YEAR, THEN THAT PART OF THE CONTRACT IS DONE, BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE OTHER CONTRACT COMMITMENTS THAT WE WANT TO SPEND WITH THE AWARDEE TO HELP DEVELOP THEM AS WELL.

AND SO WE WANT TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY AND TIME TO WORK ONE-ON-ONE WITH THESE AWARDEES, TO GIVE THEM THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED AND SHOCK MADE AN EXCELLENT POINT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE WHOLE CYCLE FROM ALBUM TO SHOW.

IT COULD BE A PART OF THAT ELEMENT, BUT THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE WHOLE KIND OF CYCLE FOR A MUSICIAN OR FOR AN INDUSTRY SECTOR WITHIN AUSTIN, THIS FUND IS NOW COVERING SEVERAL ELEMENTS OF THAT.

AND YOU COULD TRY TO DO ALL OF THEM.

IF YOU COULD DO IT IN A BUDGET OF 20 K IN TWO YEARS, OR YOU COULD DO A PORTION OF IT JUST LIKE SHOCK IS SET AND PARLAY AND LEVERAGE IT WITH OTHER MONIES THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

IT WILL ALSO,

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AND SO, UH, IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED, OR THAT COULD BE USED ALL AT ONE TO, YOU KNOW, DO WHATEVER THE ARTISTS AND OR THE PROMOTER THINKS IS NECESSARY TO BUILD THEIR CAREERS AND THEIR PROFESSIONAL LIFE HERE IN AUSTIN, LAUREN.

UM, SO, UM, WELL THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS IN FRONT OF US.

UM, UM, YEAH, I, I MEAN, I PERSONALLY HAVE TO KIND OF SPEND, SPEND MORE TIME THINKING ABOUT THIS ONE YEAR VERSUS TWO YEAR THING, WHICH ALSO THE 10 K VERSUS 20 K.

UM, I THINK THERE IS ALSO VALUE.

I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MAHOEN THAT THIS IS NOT A FUND, LIKE SOMEBODY'S ENTIRE, YOU KNOW, ALBUM FROM GET, GO TO THE END GOAL.

UH, IT, IT HAS THIS ONE HAS TO CONTRIBUTE OR BE A PART OF PERHAPS A LARGER EFFORT FOR SOMEBODY.

UM, BUT I THINK WITH THIS ONE BEING WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW, THERE IS VALUE IN STARTING OUT SMALL BECAUSE THE 3.5 MILLION WAS ALREADY NOT COVERING PROPORTIONALLY.

UH, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF MUSICIANS THAT ARE IN THIS TOWN, IT WAS STILL ALREADY COVERING A PRETTY SMALL NUMBER OF MUSICIANS OR BANDS.

UM, THIS WILL FURTHER REDUCE THAT POOL BASICALLY OF FOLKS WHO CAN AVAIL TO, UM, AVAIL TO THIS FUND.

SO, UM, I DO THINK THAT IS VALUE IN STARTING OUT SMALL FROM THE FIVE K TO 10 K, UM, OR EVEN AT FIVE K, BUT, AND THEN AS THE HOT FUN EXPANDS, LOOK AT EXPANDING THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND AS WELL AS PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CONSIDER GOING TO TWO YEARS.

UM, THE, MY COMMENT ON THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS I THINK FOLKS ARE AT DIFFERENT STAGES IN THEIR CAREERS.

SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NEED IT.

SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT, I DON'T SEE THE POINT ESSENTIALLY IN MANDATING IT.

UM, I THINK IT, IT WILL BE WONDERFUL IF THOSE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, OFFERED AS, UH, UH, OPTION OPTIONAL, ESSENTIALLY THAT THOSE ARE AVAILABLE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO AVAIL IT.

BUT, UM, I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL MUSICIANS, REALLY, UM, PE FOLKS, I THINK THERE'S VALUE IN JUST PROVIDING IT AS OPTIONAL.

UM, I WAS CURIOUS IF, UM, UH, ONE MORE POINT I HAD WAS AROUND METRICS.

UM, THE, THE METRICS THAT I THINK THAT TH THESE ARE GREAT, THE ONES THAT WE'RE COLLECTING FROM THE APPLICANTS, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO ALSO HAVE METRICS THAT THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATOR CAN PROVIDE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE MIGHT BE METRICS THAT CAN BE PULLED FROM THE KIND OF RECEIPTS, UH, SOMEBODY WHO'S GETTING, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATORS GETTING, UM, AND THAT WOULD HELP US, UH, GET INFORMED AROUND WHERE IN THE ECOSYSTEM, UM, THE FUNDS ARE GOING, AND THERE MIGHT BE VALUE TO ACTUALLY MANDATING THAT THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE THE METRICS.

UH, AND, AND SO JUST ONE LAST QUESTION I HAD, THOSE WERE JUST COMMENTS.

UM, IS THERE, IS IT, IS IT A POSSIBILITY IN THE SCORING METRICS, UM, THE SCORING MATRIX TO, UM, ADD QUESTIONS AROUND JOHN RHE, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT HELP US EXPAND, UH, THE, UH, AND KIND OF MEET SOME OF THE DEI GOALS, BECAUSE WHEN WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT WAS JOHN RUSH AND DIVAS, JOHN ROSS NOT GETTING SUPPORTED VERY BROADLY IN THIS TOWN CURRENTLY.

I THINK THAT IS, IT USUALLY IMPACTS ARTISTS OF COLOR DISPROPORTIONATELY.

UH, SO IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO INCLUDE THAT, UH, AS A CRITERIA.

UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR QUESTION.

SO COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT THE THIRD-PARTY METRICS ARE? DO YOU, DO YOU MEAN THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE METRICS AROUND THE TYPES OF EXPENSES? YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK THE THIRD, WHOEVER IS ADMINISTRATING, THIS IS GOING TO GET ALL THE RECEIPTS.

THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE HANDLING ALL THE APPLICATIONS.

THEY SHOULD HAVE DATA AROUND, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF RECEIPTS THEY'RE GETTING.

AND THERE COULD BE OTHER FACTORS THAT I'M NOT THINKING OF RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO OFFICIALLY PROVIDE METRICS BASED ON, UH, RECEIPTS.

AND I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO, SO IT'LL ACTUALLY BE THE CITY THAT'LL BE, UH, COLLECTING THE RECEIPTS AND DOING THAT PART.

BUT YEAH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, I COULD DO THAT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT'LL BE VERY INFORMATIVE AROUND WHERE IN THE ECOSYSTEM, IF, IF, IF ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL GOALS OF THIS FUND IS TO BUILD THE ECOSYSTEM, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY INFORMATIVE, UH, TOWARDS THAT GOAL.

COLLECTING THE UPFRONT APPLICATION, UH, DATA FROM THE APPLICANTS AND THEN SCORING AND EVALUATING.

UM, I'M SORRY, I'M GOING IN AND OUT HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, MY APOLOGIES.

UH, SO YES, THE CITY WILL, CAN COLLECT ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.

THE THIRD-PARTY WON'T BE RE UH, YOU KNOW, COLLECTING ANY TYPES OF RECEIPTS.

THEY'LL JUST BE

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UH, AS FAR AS JOHN RHE, I DO BELIEVE THAT IN ONE OF THE SECTIONS, WE WILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AROUND GENRE DIVERSITY.

AND SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT PART OF THE SCORING MATRIX THAT KIM CAN GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THAT.

UM, AS FAR AS THE AWARD AMOUNTS, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, BE REALLY IMPACTFUL HERE.

AND IF WE START BREAKING UP, UM, FIVE UP TO $5,000 FOR THE 3.5 OVER TWO YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONTRACTS, UM, TO, TO MANAGE.

AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, JUST OUR CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WHEN WE COULD PROVIDE MORE MONEY AND JUST PROVIDE MORE OF THAT ONE-ON-ONE ASSISTANCE WITH THE CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE FOR MORE MEANINGFUL, UM, ASSISTANCE TO EVERYONE.

AND THEN FINALLY, WHAT WAS THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, UM, IT'LL COME TO ME.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I MISSED THERE, NAGA VOLLEY? UH, I JUST HAD A COMMENT AROUND THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT BEING A MANDATORY VERSUS OPTIONAL.

SO THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY WOULD BE A CHOICE.

SO WE WOULD NOT BE MANDATING SPECIFIC CLASSES.

THERE WOULD BE A WHOLE HOST OF SUPPORT, WHETHER IT'S LIKE ADVANCED QUICKBOOKS TAXES, YOU KNOW, SO I'VE LEARNED THAT REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU KIND OF ARE IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU WILL ALWAYS NEED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AROUND THESE, ESPECIALLY AS YOU START MAKING MORE MONEY AND YOUR TAX LIABILITY GOES UP, YOU NEED BETTER ADVICE.

AND SO IT COULD BE AS BASIC AS, YOU KNOW, STARTING MY OWN LLC AND JUST ONE-ON-ONE TO HIGH LEVEL TAX LIABILITIES FOR SEVERAL REVENUE STREAMS. AND WHAT AM I LIABLE FOR? UH, SO I THINK THAT IT'S JUST A, IT'S REALLY, WE WANT TO MEET FOLKS WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WE WON'T FELL COURSE ANYONE TO TAKE BEGINNER CLASSES IF THEY DON'T NEED TO TAKE IT.

SO THERE WILL BE A SUITE, THERE'LL BE LIKE A COURSE CATALOG OF OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO CHOOSE THE 10 HOURS FROM LAUREN.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, YOU KEEP POINTING AT YOUR PHONE.

THE OUTCOMES TO PREPARE US FOR THE NEXT CYCLE, WHICH WOULD BE TWO YEARS TO, YOU KNOW, CORRECT ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED OR ADD ADDITIONAL USES OR OTHER ELEMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE OR TAKE THINGS AWAY THAT YOU THINK JUST DON'T WORK BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT, UM, YOU KNOW, ANNUALLY IS PRETTY FAST TO HAVE THAT MANY CONTRACTS.

GO FOR IT.

OH, I'M ON MY PHONE NOW.

I APOLOGIZE.

APOLOGIES FOR THE TECHNICAL PROBLEMS EARLIER.

UM, SO A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WE DID A VOTE.

WE VOTED ON, UM, INCORPORATING THE OTHER ELIGIBLE EXPENSES.

AND WE ALSO VOTED ON THIS BEING A PILOT YEAR FOR MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS AND ALLOWING VENUE PROMOTERS TO BE ELIGIBLE IN THE SECOND YEAR.

AND WE WERE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT THAT LANGUAGE WHEN WE VOTED ON IT.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE A TWO YEAR PROGRAM.

SO I'M CURIOUS HOW WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE INCLUSIVE OF THE MUSICIANS WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM THIS PROGRAM VIA THEIR WORK INSIDE OF, UH, VENUES.

UM, HOW WILL THAT, HOW WILL WE BE ABLE TO MAKE GOOD ON OUR PROMISE TO INCLUDE THEM AS ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS APPLICANTS IN THE SECOND YEAR WE EVER RELEASED SECOND CYCLE? I WANT TO ALSO, I WANT TO ALSO DOVETAIL OFF OF WHAT ART IS SAYING REAL QUICK.

SO WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT IT WAS A $5,000, $10,000 PROGRAM.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THIS, BASICALLY, AS WE'VE SAID THAT OUT OF ALL OF THE APPLICANTS, THE MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS, THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEND A MESSAGE.

HALF OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE WE HAVE A 10, $20,000 PROGRAM FOR TWO YEARS INSTEAD OF A FIVE TO $10,000 PROGRAM FOR ONE YEAR, THE IDEA WAS TO START SMALL.

THE IDEA WAS TO IN ITS INAUGURAL YEAR, GET THIS OUT THE DOOR AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO IT, COLLECT THE DATA, COME BACK IN THE NEXT YEAR INTO A BIGGER, THE NEXT TIME AROUND.

AND WE HAVE, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT FROM WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE BACK OF WHAT LAUREN IS SAYING.

SO IT'S A TWO YEAR PROGRAM.

AND SO THE VENUES, THE ADDITIONAL ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IN THE NEXT CYCLE, WHICH WOULD BE ANOTHER TWO YEAR PROGRAM.

AND AGAIN, IT ISN'T EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S BASED ON A FISCAL YEAR BUDGET FOR RELAUNCHING THE PROGRAM EVERY YEAR OR DOING IT EVERY TWO YEARS.

THAT GIVES US MORE TIME WITH THE APPLICANTS.

I MEAN, WITH THE AWARDEES AND, UH, TO DEVELOP THESE PROJECTS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY, AND THEN TO PREPARE US AND EVALUATE US, EVALUATE

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AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE OPENING UP APPLICATIONS AGAIN, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO THINGS MONTHS IN ADVANCE.

AND SO IT'S BY GIVING THIS TWO YEAR CYCLE, IT GIVES US THE SPACE THAT WE NEED TO REALLY BE EFFECTIVE AND, UH, REALLY FOCUSED ON CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR THE AWARDEES AND TO WORK WITH THEM UNTIL THE END, YOU KNOW, COLLECT THAT DATA AND REFINE, AND THEN RELAUNCH.

UM, AND SO THIS IS ALSO FROM A PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW FROM CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT IT FROM A CAPACITY POINT OF VIEW, I WOULD HATE TO OVER PROMISE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, MANY, MANY, MANY MORE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE NOW ANNUAL AND NOT BE ABLE TO SERVE THEM WITH THE CURRENT CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE AT THE CITY.

AND THIS IS A WAY TO DO THAT INVESTMENT, TO LOOK, SEE THAT TRANSFORMATIONAL INVESTMENT AND GIVE US THE TIME AND THE SPACE TO SEE HOW IT'S WORKING AND TO ADJUST AS WE GO.

UH, SO, UM, YEAH, IT IS, THIS, IS THIS A TWO-YEAR ROW? IS IT A ROLLING PROGRAM OR IS IT ONCE IN TWO YEARS THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED? IT WOULD BE A TWO-YEAR PROGRAM.

THESE ARE TWO YEAR CONTRACTS NOT TO SAY THAT WE WOULDN'T GET PREPARED FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS CYCLES STARTING NEXT YEAR.

IT'S NOT LIKE THAT.

WE CAN ONLY FOCUS ON THIS, BUT TWO YEARS WE WOULD HAVE THIS PROCESS, YOU KNOW, HALF A THIRD PARTY, WORK WITH US TO GET THE AWARDEES CITY CONTRACTS WITH THE AWARDEES FOR TWO, FOR TWO YEAR CONTRACTS.

AND THEN WE START THE PROCESS FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, UH, ITERATION, WHICH WOULD BE FISCAL YEAR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER FISCAL YEAR THAT IS TWO YEARS LATER.

AND WE COULD START THE PREP WORK AND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WITH THE ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, UH, TO SEE HOW WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT BETTER AND IMPROVE.

AND SO THAT JUST, WE QUIT.

WE WOULDN'T WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE TWO YEARS TO DO THAT.

WE WOULD KIND OF START THAT WORK ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER GOING INTO THESE TWO YEARS THE WORK, BUT THE APPLICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE OPEN AND SAY IN A 5 22 SUMMER, AND THEN THE NEXT ROUND OF APPLICATIONS, UH, WOULD ONLY BE OPEN IF I 24 SUMMER IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

NOT, NOT THAT IF I, 22 SUMMER YOU, THERE ARE A BUNCH OF APPLICANTS THAT ARE SELECTED.

UH, THEY GET ON A TWO YEAR PROGRAM AND IF 5 23, YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER SET OF APPLICATIONS, YOU KNOW, OPEN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEY GET SELECTED.

AND IT, IT'S NOT A ROLLING TWO YEAR THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING ONCE IN TWO YEARS THAT THE PROGRAM BE OPEN.

WELL, LOOK AT IT FROM A BUDGET POINT OF VIEW.

SO THE BUDGET, THE 3.5 WOULD COVER TWO FISCAL YEARS, BUT WE COULD GET STARTED EARLIER ON THE NEXT APPLICATION AND GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE SYSTEM, BUT CONTRACTS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CUT WITH THE NEW BUCKET OF MONEY UNTIL THAT FISCAL YEAR WHERE THE MONEY IS BUDGETED FROM.

SO, UM, AND SO NOVIA CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMING OF HOW THIS WOULD WORK.

UM, AND CURRENTLY CULTURAL ARTS DOES HAVE A TWO YEAR CYCLE, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO DO KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING OF THESE MORE INVESTMENT AND TRANSFORMATIONAL INVESTMENTS THAT THE CITY CAN MAKE SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND OF SEE HOW THIS WORKS WITH THIS BIGGER INVESTMENT AND SUPPORT PROVIDED TO THE AWARDEES.

RIGHT? AND SO I ALSO WANT TO STRESS CAPACITY.

WE, IT, IT'S A CAPACITY ISSUE ALSO.

IF WE'RE HANDLING ALL THE, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I, WE WERE LOSING A GREAT STAFF.

WE'RE HAVING, IT'S NOT JUST US.

WE HAVE DOWNTOWN PROCUREMENT, THAT'S CHALLENGED.

AND SO DOING A TWO YEAR CYCLE HELPS BOTH.

WE CAN PROVIDE MORE MONEY, INTIMATE, UM, TA WITH OUR CLIENTS.

AND THEN AS ERICA MENTIONED, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.

YOU COULD START IN SAY, WE OPEN UP THIS YEAR.

THEN WE GET THE CONTRACTS UNDER THEN WE'RE MARKETING BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE MARKETING COMPONENT TO IT.

THERE'S A WHOLE P UH, SUPPORT SERVICE ON THE BACKEND TO IT.

THERE'S A LOT.

I MEAN, WE JUST CAN'T TURN A PROGRAM OVER IN SIX MONTHS.

I'M JUST GOING TO BE FRANK, BUT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

I'M ALREADY STRESSING OUT PURCHASING.

AND THIS IS NOT THE ONLY PROGRAM.

WE HAVE SIX OTHER DIVISION THAT WE HAVE TO SPACE THINGS OUT.

I'M JUST GOING TO BE FRANK TWO YEAR CYCLE IS THE BEST.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING A ONE-YEAR CYCLE, THAT MEANS WE GOT TO BRING ON MORE STAFF.

I'M NOT SURE WE CAN DO

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THAT.

EVEN FINDING A THIRD PARTY THAT CAN, UM, ABSORB IT.

SO A TWO YEAR CYCLE IS BETTER.

I KNOW PEOPLE MAY WANT THE MONEY OUT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO ASK US TO DO THAT.

AND WE DON'T, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.

I'M JUST NOT GOING TO SUGAR COAT.

I DON'T WANT TO OVER PROMISE, BUT IT'S NOT JUST MUSIC.

WE HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT DIVISION.

WE HAVE A GLOBAL DIVISION, WE HAVE CULTURAL ARTS.

THAT'S ALSO ROLLING OUT.

AND I COMMITTED TO STAFF THAT I WOULD NOT PUT THAT PRESSURE ON THEM.

LAST YEAR, THE LAST TWO YEARS, THEY DID THEIR WORK PLUS 15 UNIQUE NEW PROGRAMS. AND I WAS PULLING STAFF FROM OTHER DIVISIONS TO COME.

STEPHANIE HELPED ON A SPECIAL PROGRAM AND STAFF IS STRESSED AND STRETCHED.

GUYS.

I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP IT.

FRANK TWO YEAR CYCLE IS THE BEST, MORE MONEY, MORE INTIMATE CONTACT WITH OUR CLIENTS, AS WELL AS SPACING OUT AND ROLLING OUT OUR PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP IT 100.

I CANNOT, I CANNOT DO THAT.

AND I PROMISED THEM THAT I WOULD NOT STRESS THEM THE LAST WEEK I'VE HAD.

I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, STOPPING HAS BEEN A CONCERN.

I MEAN, I WORK IN AN INDUSTRY WHERE IT'S BEEN A CONCERN AS WELL.

WELL, I WORK IN MULTIPLE INDUSTRIES, UH, BUT, UH, BUT, BUT I JUST, IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE.

I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THERE WERE VOTES CAST IN THIS COMMISSION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A ONE-YEAR PROGRAM WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PILOT YEAR.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY, UH, YOU KNOW, PAY ATTENTION TO, UM, UH, THAT, THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT? AND IT DID UNDER MY LEADERSHIP.

AND I WILL TAKE THAT.

AND IF YOU TAKE A VOTE TONIGHT TO SAY, YOU WANT A ONE-YEAR PROGRAM, I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, I JUST, I COMMITTED TO STAFF.

I WOULD NOT DO THAT.

THE LAST 10 DAYS I'VE HAD INTIMATE CONVERSATIONS AND I'M JUST, I CANNOT, I CANNOT DO THAT TO THEM.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT IN THE MEETINGS.

SO GIVE US THIS YEAR, WE WILL START WITH THE FIRST YEAR.

ONCE WE GET THOSE CONTRACTS, WE'LL OPEN IT UP BECAUSE EVEN MARKETING, GETTING PEOPLE IN AND THEN GIVE US THAT, GIVE US THAT.

SO IT WON'T BE CONTRARY.

THEY WILL COME IN INTO THE NEXT CYCLE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO, I CAN ATTEMPT TO COMMIT TO THAT.

AGAIN.

I GOT TO GET MY 17 VACANCIES FILLED.

IT'S NOT JUST MUSIC STAFF.

I GOT SUPPORT SERVICE THAT ARE VACANT THAT HAVE TO HANDLE ALL OF THESE CONTRACTS COMING THROUGH THIS DEPARTMENT.

AND SO I'M NOT TRYING TO WHINE.

I'M JUST GIVING YOU REALITY, RIGHT? REALITY.

I'M LIKE SERIOUSLY CHOMPING AT THE BIT HERE BECAUSE I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR SYNOVIA.

AND I'M ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I, I PERSONALLY, AS YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PUSHING FOR THAT VOTE IN THE LAST, IN THE LAST THING.

AND IT WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED, UH, FOR IT TO BE, THERE WERE THREE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT IT IT'S, UH, TO GO, UH, THE FIRST THEY WANTED THE FIRST YEAR TO GO, UH, FOR THE VENUES TO BE INCLUDED.

THERE WERE SIX OF US THAT VOTED, UH, TO HAVE, UH, THE FIRST YEAR GO TO ARTISTS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS, NOTHING FOR ME PERSONALLY.

AND I THINK I WANT TO CHECK IN WITH ALL THE SIX PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR IT TO THE FIRST YEAR TO BE ABOUT INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS AND ARTISTS, NOTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID FOR ME PERSONALLY, I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF PERSON, NOTHING HAS BEEN SAID OR PRESENTED SO FAR TO ME, CHANGES, UM, MY VOTE FROM, FROM THE LAST SESSION.

UM, I THINK THAT IS VERY THOUGHTFUL ON THE, ON BEHALF OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WHEN I'M LISTENING TO IT.

TWO YEARS TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE ACTUALLY DEVELOP TO, TO, TO TRACK AND TO, YOU KNOW, IT IS VERY UNREALISTIC, NOT JUST ON, ON THE, UH, ON THE SIDE OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO AS A STAFF, BUT JUST THE LEARNING OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR ANYONE THAT'S GOING TO ENGAGE IN THIS, IN THIS PROGRAM.

UM, I THINK THAT IT IS VERY, IT'S VERY IDEALISTIC, UM, TO, TO, TO THINK THAT WAY NOW THAT I'M, NOW THAT I'M REALLY PROCESSING IT TO LIKE, THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THIS MONEY OUT AND WITHIN SIX, SEVEN MONTHS BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND AND, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MAHONEY.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST REACTING TO ALSO WHAT COMMISSIONER GOLD JUST POINTED OUT.

SO I'M NOT JUST INDEPENDENTLY MAKING THIS COMMENT, BUT THAT IS, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE VOTED, IT WAS WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A ONE-YEAR PILOT PROGRAM.

I THINK, I THINK COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND ALSO REFER TO THAT, YOU KNOW, SO I'M NOT, UH, I AGREE.

I, YEAH, SO, SO RESPECTFULLY I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M JUST STATING WHAT I THINK IS IT'S TRUE.

I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT AT ALL COMMISSIONER

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AT ALL.

THAT'S 100% TRUE WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS THE PEOPLE THAT DID VOTE FOR IT TO BE IN THE FIRST YEAR TO GO TO ARTISTS.

AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TO THEM A QUESTION TO THEM SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE THEY DID, THEY DID VOTE FOR IT TO BE GIVEN TO INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS AND POSITIONS.

WHAT SPECIFICALLY, WHAT ISSUES DO Y'ALL HAVE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE CHANGES? WELL, I MEAN, WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO WE HAVE? I MEAN, IT'S SO, SO, SO, SO I, I'M GONNA, I DON'T KNOW, HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WHAT'S BEING SAID AND BROUGHT UP HERE.

I MEAN, BUT, BUT I MEAN, I THINK MY PROBLEM, WELL, ONE OF MY PROBLEMS IS THAT NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE HAD A LOT OF HARD TENTS, TOUGH IN THE TRENCHES DISCUSSIONS, NOT JUST WITH THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND WHATNOT, BUT WITH STAFF, WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER COMMISSIONS, WITH VENUE OWNERS, WITH, YOU KNOW, MUSICIANS, CORPORATE INTERESTS, LIKE, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE BASED ON WHAT WE VOTED ON AND WHAT WE SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

SO THE F I MEAN, IT, AND FOR THAT, THAT WENT, MY BOAT WOULD NOT CHANGE BASED ON THAT BECAUSE OF THE PAST, RIGHT.

BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT VENUES GOT THEIR HELP, MUSICIANS NOW NEED THEIR HELP.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I THINK THE PROBLEM COMES NOW WITH THIS.

I MEAN, WE'RE JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, LET ME CLEAR THIS UP.

SO LET'S, LET'S COUNT.

LET'S DO, LET'S DO A MATH COUNT.

SO SAY WE OPEN UP TODAY.

THIS SUMMER WE TAKE APPLICATIONS, THEN THEY CONTRACT WE'RE IN 22, 23, THEN IN 23, I'M OPENING IT UP TO THE VENUES.

THEN THEY'RE ON A TWO-YEAR CYCLE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, SYNOVIA MAKES SENSE.

IT MAKES SENSE.

I JUST, I WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT IT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I WAS ARGUING AND VOTING WITH THESE PEOPLE FOR FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AND GOT TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS OUT, WE'LL COME BACK TO ARTISTS IN TWO YEARS, THEN I'M GOING TO NEXT YEAR, I'M GOING TO START THE VINEYARDS.

AND I COME BACK IN TWO YEARS AND SORRY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT WAY.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING IF IT IS A ROLLING TWO YEARS.

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY THAT.

YEAH, WE CAN.

IT'S A $2.2 BILLION INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND SO I'M SAYING WE CAN ATTEMPT TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S NOT JUST ME.

IF I SAY I'M AN OPEN IT UP, I GOT TO MAKE SURE MY PURCHASING STAFF AND WE CAN HANDLE THAT IN MY MIND.

I GOT TO LAY IT OUT.

BUT IN MY MIND, I'M NOT, I'M DEALING WITH CERTAIN CLIENTS EVERY TWO YEARS MAKES IT MAKES SYNOVIA.

IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

IT MAKES SENSE.

AND I PRAY FOR ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK SOMETHING.

GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER IS JUST A QUICK REMINDER.

THIS IS DEFINITELY VERGARA.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

YOU HAVE 23 MINUTES LEFT.

JUST GIVING YOU A TIME CHECK FOR TODAY'S MEETING.

NOW, LET ME SAY ONE MORE THING AND I WILL BE DONE.

I PROMISE I WILL SHUT UP.

THE THIRD THING IS THAT WE HAVE THIS CONVENTION CENTER THAT IS GOING TO GET RENOVATED.

WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M SAYING IT, THAT IS GOING TO, UM, TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM.

I SAID, CAN I, CAN I FINISH? CAN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY? YEAH.

SO SCOTT, IF YOU CAN WRAP UP YOUR THOUGHTS AND WRAP UP MY THOUGHTS, PATRICE, PATRICE, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU ONE SECOND.

WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M ASKING FOR ALL OF US.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL DO IT IN THAT ORDER.

SO SCOTT AND THEN PATRICE, AND THEN IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, JUST GO AHEAD AND GET YOU WHEN THAT NEW CONNECTS ME, WHEN THAT NEW CONVENTION CENTER IS FINISHED, GETTING BUILT IS BASICALLY GOING TO PUT HOTELS ON BOARDWALK AND PARK PLACE AND OUR VENUES ARE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME SITUATION THEY WERE IN, IN 2020.

WE, I MEAN LIKE WE'VE, I'M JUST GOING TO STOP.

SO GO AHEAD, PATRICE.

BE SURPRISED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, CYCLE THAT WORKS FOR CULTURAL ARTS, BUT WE ARE NOT CULTURAL ARTS.

SO THE, UM, SOME OF US ARE SHOCKED, NOT SURE WHO ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THIS ON THE COMMISSION.

UM, AND JUST FIRST, JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, SO STILL NOVIA, IT IS CLEAR THE STRUGGLE THAT'S HAPPENING WITH ALL DUE RESPECT OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DEALING WITH.

BUT I DON'T, I WOULD GUESS THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD

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AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SERVING HALF THE AMOUNT OF AWARDEES FOR, AND THEN IN A CYCLE OF TWO YEARS, IT'S, IT'S SHOCKING AND IT'S NOT SHOCKING BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS ARE THERE.

THE PROBLEMS ARE DIFFICULT AND IT'S CLEAR FROM WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US.

BUT, AND NO, I DON'T, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, NOW WE'RE CUTTING THE FUNDING AND HALF ESSENTIALLY, BY GIVING MORE PEOPLE MORE MONEY AND GIVING THEM MORE TIME TO UTILIZE THAT MONEY FOR THEIR PROJECTS FOR TWO YEARS.

AND YOU CAN'T APPLY FOR TWO MORE YEARS AS AN ARTIST IS JUST, I CAN'T EVEN WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THAT PART.

I UNDERSTAND CLEARLY THE PROBLEMS, THE CHALLENGES, THE STAFFING PROBLEMS AND WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH WITH THE STRESS.

IT'S ALSO VERY STRESSFUL AFTER THREE YEARS OF WORK FOR ALL OF US, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE'RE JUST LEARNING RIGHT NOW THAT THIS IS THE DECISION THAT'S BEING MADE.

THAT IS TOTALLY COUNTER TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE WORK FOR THREE YEARS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP IN MYSELF.

SO I I'M, I TOTALLY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO NOVIA ABOUT COMMITMENTS TO STAFF AND PEOPLE BEING STRETCHED REALLY THIN.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT LIKE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE WORKED ON THIS ALSO FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN STRETCHED THEN ON A, ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS.

UM, BUT WE HAVE MADE THIS COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND MY, SO ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT, UM, BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM HAS MEANT ON SOME LEVEL TO SUPPORT EMERGING ARTISTS THAT, THAT 20, A $20,000 IN TWO YEARS MAY FEEL LIKE AN INTIMIDATING AMOUNT THAT THEY, THERE MIGHT BE LIKE, OH, THIS IS REALLY NOT FOR ME.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TIERS OF AMOUNTS, UM, IF, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, IF WE, I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR OUR $20,000, SOME $20,000 GRANTS, BUT MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO APPLY AT A SMALLER AMOUNT ALSO.

AND, UM, A QUESTION I JUST HAVE ABOUT FUNDING, THIS IS A TWO YEAR PROGRAM.

SO THEN DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE LIKE TWICE AS MUCH MONEY TO WORK WITH BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER YEAR OF HOT TAXES, HOT FUNDS COMING INTO THE PROGRAM.

SO DO WE HAVE $7 MILLION TO WORK WITH INSTEAD OF 3.5 FOR THE TWO YEAR CYCLE, THE BASE, UM, USING FUNDS ON ACTUALS.

AND SO WE WOULD BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, BUT IT WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY BE A CONSERVATIVE EFFORT ESTIMATE, PROBABLY THE SAME FOR THE FIRST TWO TO THREE YEARS.

BUT AGAIN, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT OF MUSICIANS I DO.

SO, UM, AND GRANTED IT IS UNSETTLING.

SO I WOULD SAY, MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, TAKE THE BOAT, AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK AND TRY TO REEVALUATE IT.

WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE VOTED FOR THIS TWO YEAR, UM, ROLLOUT OF A TWO YEAR, UH, TIERED APPLICANT ROLLOUT THAT WE VOTED ON A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP THAT THAT WAS UNREALISTIC OR THAT, THAT WAS NOT, UM, UH, GOING TO WORK.

SO, UM, YEAH, GO AHEAD AND COME AND SHACKLED.

UM, I FEEL, UH, SIMILARLY TO, UH, TO PATRICE, I FEEL, UM, KIND OF BLINDSIDED, UH, BY THESE, THESE UPDATED GUIDELINES, UH, GIVEN, UH, WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.

UM, AND I, I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT I'M LEARNING ABOUT THIS NOW IN THE MOMENT, UM, IN THE MEETING, UM, I REALLY, REALLY WISH THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH US SOONER.

UM, SO WE COULD HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.

AND SO I AM NOT IN A POSITION TO VOTE ON ANYTHING.

UM, BECAUSE THERE I HAVE TOO MANY QUESTIONS.

I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE TOO MANY QUESTIONS FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE LEFT IN THIS MEETING.

AND, UM, I DO NOT FEEL I HEAR YOU ALSO SYLVIA, AND I JUST WISH WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE PRESENTED

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UH, AND SO WE WERE KIND OF LED TO BELIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH, THROUGH, YOU KNOW, OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS POSSIBLE.

AND, AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO REEVALUATE THAT.

SO I, I TOTALLY HEAR YOU, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO SIT WITH ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND SEE IF MAYBE THERE'S A CREATIVE SOLUTION THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT FEELS BETTER.

UM, BECAUSE I ALSO HEAR YOU ON HOW MUCH CAPACITY BUILDING COULD BE POSSIBLE WITH, YOU KNOW, THESE, THE GUIDELINES YOU PRESENTED, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY AMAZING STUFF THERE.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IT'S JUST SO DIFFERENT FROM WHERE WE WERE AT.

AND SO I PERSONALLY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF HOLDING OFF ON MAKING ANY SORT OF DECISIONS OR VOTES THIS EVENING.

WELL, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL WELCOME ANY CONVERSATION WITH YOU GUYS TO DISCUSS MORE ABOUT THE REALITIES OF STAFFING, ESPECIALLY THAT HAVE COME TO LIGHT JUST RECENTLY AND IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND SO WE'RE JUST WORKING LITERALLY WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WHILE TRYING TO PROVIDE YOU UPDATES.

YOU WANTED TO SEE IN TERMS OF USES AND THE TRANSFORMATIONAL NATURE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED BY COUNCIL AND MAYOR, UH, THROUGH, BY PROVIDING BETTER INVESTMENT OR STAFF TIME YES.

TO LESS AWARDEES.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO THINGS THAT KIND OF ARE THE REALITIES RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, THAT CAPACITY IS LIMITED IN TERMS OF STAFFING.

THESE ARE STILL STATE OF TEXAS CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY HAS TO DO SINCE WE'RE LIABLE FOR THESE TAX DOLLARS.

AND WE STILL HAVE TO CONTRACT THE WAY, I MEAN, A THIRD PARTY WOULD HAVE TO CONTRACT THE EXACT SAME WAY AS WE DO.

AND IT'S A LOT, A LOT OF LIABILITY FOR THE CITY, JUST SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT RIGHT.

AND, UM, AND SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, UH, SO WE, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE END UP WITH 350 TO 600 CONTRACTS WITH KEY STAFFERS IN THE DIVISION, UM, THAT ALSO WOULD, UM, NOT END WELL.

AND SO WE'VE GOT TO FIND THAT HAPPY MEDIUM TOGETHER, UH, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, HOLD ONTO THE VALUES OF WHAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO SEE, BUT DEAL WITH THE REALITIES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

AND THEN JUST LEARN AS WE GO AND IMPROVE AS WE GO, OR ANY MUSIC COMMISSIONERS PERFECT TO THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE THIS MEETING, ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THIS.

NOW, AS ERICA SAID, WE'VE HAD INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THE WORKING GROUP, BUT UNDERSTAND ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE JUST MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO.

SO IF, IF, IF IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO HAVE THEM ONE YEAR LESS AMOUNT, AND WE PERSONALLY, I NEED TO KNOW THOSE INSTRUCTIONS TONIGHT, SO THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE.

DOES THAT MEAN BRINGING ON AN ENTIRE TEAM JUST FOR THESE TWO YEARS? YEAH.

IT MIGHT MAKE, THAT MAY BE THE CASE.

AND IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE FUND BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE FUNDS IN MY OPERATING FUND.

SO JUST KNOW WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOME CREATIVE THINGS IT'S JUST GOING TO COST, RIGHT.

SO YOU WON'T HAVE THAT 3.5 GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT IF IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO HAVE THAT ONE YEAR, JUST KNOW IT MAY COST YOU MORE IN ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.

AND IF THAT'S THE, IF THAT'S, YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, WE CAN COME UP WITH A COST ESTIMATE.

23, IF IT'S STARTING IN FISCAL YEAR 23, AT THAT POINT, WE CAN ADD THE VENUES AS WE'VE DISCUSSED AND VOTED ON.

UM, YEAH, I, I ALSO, LAUREN MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE GREAT IMPROVEMENTS IN WHAT Y'ALL HAVE BROUGHT BACK TO US.

SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WORK.

AND ESPECIALLY, I KNOW THERE WAS A VERY QUICK PIVOT THAT HAD TO HAPPEN ON HOW TO ASK THE QUESTIONS AND I THINK YOUR SOLUTIONS WERE REALLY GOOD.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THE IDEA OF A, OF A T HANDLING THIS ON A TWO YEAR BASIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TAKE UP AFTER THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM, SO THAT WE GO AHEAD AND WE ROLL OUT ON A ONE-YEAR BASIS NOW.

AND THEN WE DO THAT, THAT ANALYSIS OF HOW A TWO YEAR PROGRAM MIGHT WORK GOING FORWARD.

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SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE BEST COMPROMISE HERE BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT, ABOUT STAFF ABSOLUTELY CAPACITY.

WE, WE HEAR THAT.

UM, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME MONEY OUT THERE NOW, AND THEN I DON'T WANT, BECAUSE WE ALL, I THINK HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE TWO YEAR PART OF THAT IS GOING TO WORK.

AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT THIS BACK IN A WORKING GROUP.

AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN IN THREE MONTHS AND TRYING TO WORK IT OUT, LIKE, LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED TO GO, WE NEED TO GO WITH WHAT WE VOTED ON.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON TONIGHT.

LIKE WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'VE ALL LIKE, YOU KNOW, CRIED BLOOD OVER TO, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN REEVALUATE.

AND I MEAN, WE CAN START NOW THINKING ABOUT HOW A TWO YEAR PROGRAM IS GOING TO WORK SO THAT WE'RE READY TO GO IN FISCAL YEAR 23.

SO THAT IS MY, UM, SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION FOR ANYTHING, ACTUALLY.

I'M JUST SAYING, YEAH, LET ME JUST REITERATE.

SO, UM, I ACKNOWLEDGED THAT YOU GUYS MADE A RECOMMENDATION AND SO WHAT I WILL DO NEXT MONTH IS COME BACK WITH THE TOTAL COST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MEAN BRINGING IN A WHOLE NEW TEAM AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PROBABLY HELP A CENTRAL PURCHASING, BRING ON A TEAM TO HELP US BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THEIR ONLY DEPARTMENT.

SO I WILL BRING BACK A COST.

UM, AND THE ESTIMATE THAT HAS COME IN SO FAR WITH THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, SO YOU HAVE FULLY AWARE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST.

SO, YEAH.

SO, SO, AND WHAT, SOMEBODY, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, CAUSE THIS KEEPS POPPING UP IN MY HEAD IF THE GRANTS ARE SMALLER, BUT DISTRIBUTED TO MORE PEOPLE, BUT THAT THE PROJECTS ARE NOT AS COMPLEX.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A RECORD FOR TWO YEARS AND ALL THE THINGS AND ALL THE VIDEO AND ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT ONE ARTISTS GETTING THAT 20 GRAND FOR AN ALBUM OR FOR A YEAR LONG RESIDENCY OR WHATEVER IT IS, I JUST WONDER, I'M ASKING RESPECTFULLY SYLVIA, IF IN THAT PROCESS THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO HAVE TO UNDERTAKE TO CONSIDER THAT AT LEAST WHAT I THINK EVERYONE ELSE WAS THINKING FOR THE MOST PART BEFORE WAS THAT THESE ARE SMALLER GRANTS IN THE FIVE TO $10,000 RANGE TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE FOR A PROJECT THAT WOULDN'T EXTEND BEYOND FROM A FEW MONTHS TO POSSIBLY A YEAR.

UH, JUST QUICK TIME CHECK.

WE HAVE NINE MINUTES.

I'M SORRY.

SO I WILL GIVE YOU A CO UH, IDEA.

WE USED TO OPERATE 600 CONTRACTS IN THE CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION.

I WANT TO SAY THEY HAVE FIVE TO SEVEN STAFF.

SO NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DUPLICATING THAT ON THIS SIDE.

SO I'M, I, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CRUNCH THE NUMBERS TO SEE, OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE, IF WE'RE GOING BACK AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE KIM, THEY MAY HAVE TO GIVE US 10 MORE MINUTES.

YOU WANT TEARS OR FOR THE ONE YEAR THAT THE 10,000.

AND GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, ESSENTIALLY HOW THE AND RECOMMENDATION, AND PLEASE, UM, I GET EMOTIONAL BECAUSE I SEE MY STAFF EVERY DAY.

A LOT OF US ARE COMING FROM IS TO JUST STAY TRUE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN REACHED THROUGH THIS FAIRLY ARDUOUS PROCESS.

SO TAKE THAT BECAUSE I HAVE THE WEIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK, SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST US ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE.

AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, I GOT TO BRING IN A TEAM TO DO THAT.

AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TALK TO CENTRAL PURCHASING BECAUSE A CONTRACT IS A CITY CONTRACT.

AND SO WE HAVE DONE, UM, THANKS TO CASEY, INNOVATIVE WAYS TO TRY TO TRIM AND, UH, S UH, REDUCED THE TIME IN TERMS OF DEVELOP A CONTRACT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A CONTRACT THAT HAS TO BE VETTED BY LAW.

AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE DID IT WITH THE MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR IT'S GOING TO COST AND I'LL BRING THAT COST BACK.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I STILL WANT TO HEAR THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE MANAGED TEAMS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND AS MUSICIANS, AS BAND LEADERS, AS BUSINESS FOLKS, I THINK ALL OF US UNDERSTAND AND EMPATHIZE WITH WHAT YOU'RE STATING AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, JUST ESSENTIALLY REALLY TAKING CARE OF YOUR STAFF AND BEING A GOOD LEADER.

UH, SO, AND, AND I APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT.

UM, FUNDAMENTALLY WHERE, WHERE MY CONCERN AND I, WHEN I SAY THIS IS IN PRINCIPLE, ESSENTIALLY, IS TO, WE, WE ALL HERE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO COME UP WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG PATH TO COME UP WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND IT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO, ESSENTIALLY? I THINK THAT'S WHERE

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AND IT HAS TAKEN UNDERSTANDING IT HAS TAKEN A LOT OF COLLABORATION AND BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, AGREE TO DISAGREE.

IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF WORK.

AND, AND SO THIS DEFINITELY COMES AS A SURPRISE, UH, AT THIS POINT OF TIME AND, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I MEAN, AND, AND I DO RESPECT YOU A LOT.

I'VE SEEN YOU IN ACTION OVER SO MANY MONTHS.

I HAVE JUST ABOUT FINISHED ONE YEAR ON THIS COMMISSION, ACTUALLY.

SO IN APRIL, UH, BUT, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE SURPRISE ELEMENT HERE.

IT HAPPENED HERE TO ME TODAY AND PROBABLY AT LEAST SOME OF US FELT IT.

AND IN THE LAST I EXPERIENCED, IT WAS WHEN CITY LEGAL AND PRESENTED WHAT THEY PRESENTED.

BOTH OF THESE REALLY CAME AS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I THINK PROPORTIONATELY, THEY ARE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

YOU KNOW, THE CITY LEGAL ONE WAS MORE OF A SHOCK, BUT THE TIMING OF IT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, ANYTHING THAT EDD CAN HELP US JUST TO HELP, YOU KNOW, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE SURPRISE ELEMENT IN SOME OF THIS INFORMATION THAT WE GET.

I MEAN, I WOULD JUST PUT THAT AS A REQUEST, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A HEADS-UP OR WHATEVER IT IS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORTS SPENT FROM ALL DIRECTIONS ON, ON, ON PI ON, ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, SO I WOULD JUST MAKE A REQUEST THERE TO JUST HELP US OUT THERE.

AND AGAIN, DON'T TAKE, I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, I WAS OVER AT THE, UH, LUNG CENTER, THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHEN THE FIRST WORKING GROUP MET, I WAS IN THAT ROOM.

AND SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR VOLUNTEERISM, EVERYTHING YOU'VE PUT IN INTO IT.

IT IS NOT, IT HAS NOT GONE UNNOTICED, AND IT WAS NO DISRESPECT, INTENDED TRUST.

THERE WAS NO DISTRESS.

I DON'T GET UP THINKING THAT.

SO I WILL TAKE BACK.

I HEAR YOU, I WILL BRING BACK COST ESTIMATES SO WE CAN GO, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE, I GOT TO, YOU GOTTA GIVE ME SOME TIME.

AND WHEN I COME BACK NEXT MONTH, WE'LL HAVE A COST.

WE'LL HOPEFULLY HAVE A TIMELINE ON THIRD PARTY, HOW WE BRING THAT ON.

CAUSE EVEN THAT TAKES TIME AND WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ON THIS COMMISSION, UH, I'D RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK.

I REMEMBER SHAKA FROM DAY, ONE SAID OVER IN THE, UH, IN THE, IN THE, THE ROOM, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE HOW WE GET THIS OUT THE DOOR.

AND SO I WILL COME BACK WITH, UM, A COMPLETE PLAN, UH, NEXT MONTH.

COMMISSIONER, AS I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING AGAIN, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES AND WE DO NOT HAVE A WINDOW TO EXTEND YOUR AND YOUR EXTENSION WINDOW RIGHT NOW.

SO FOUR MINUTES.

THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.

AND, UH, THANK YOU.

SO, DEBBIE, I THINK WE HAVE A PLAN.

I JUST WANTED TO, UH, I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD REAL QUICK AND SAY THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'VE DEFINITELY BEEN IN THIS FOR AS LONG AS EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND I WAS SURPRISED BY THE CHANGES, BUT I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AND I THOUGHT THAT THE CHANGES WERE MINDFUL AND TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD IN THAT.

AND THEN I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IN THEIR PLACE WITH IT, AND I RESPECT THAT COMPLETELY, BUT I JUST, I THINK THAT THESE, UH, THESE CHANGES WERE, WERE, WERE THOUGHTFUL AND WERE IN LINE WITH A POSITIVE DIRECTION.

SO SINCE WE WE'VE GOT, UH, FOR THREE AND A HALF MINUTES NOW, CAN WE, IS IT OKAY IF WE BUMPED THE OFFICER ELECTION THING TO NEXT? YEAH.

WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN MOVE IT TO THE NEXT POINT.

SURE.

UM, YEAH, SO WE HAVE SOME OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT MEETING, UM,

[3A. Discussion and Possible Action on budget recommendation.]

BUDGET REAL QUICKLY.

Y'ALL DID ANYBODY, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND LIKE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS SET.

THANK YOU GROUND.

IT ARE YOU GUYS? I HATE TO RUSH THIS, BUT IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH TAKING A VOTE, I JUST WANT TO GET, WE JUST GOT TO GET IT AT THE COUNCIL.

IT'S GOT TO GO.

SO ALL IN FAVOR.

I THINK THAT'S EVERYBODY.

TO MOVE ALL REMAINING ITEMS TO THE NEXT MEETING.

SO BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, DRAFT TWO THAT WERE SENT TO YOU BY EMAIL.

THOSE ARE APPROVED, UM, MOTION

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

AND, UH, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? YEAH.

ALL ALL IN FAVOR.

UH, AND THEN YOU WANTED TO BE REMINDED OF THIS MOTION TO PUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND HOT TAX, UH, ONTO THE NEXT AGENDA.

AND, AND THEN, UH, UH, NEXT MEETING, I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN UPDATE FROM ADC.

SO MOTION FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AFTER AN UPDATE FROM

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THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.