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THIS IS A MEETING OF THE OSS ANIMAL MISSION.

IT IS 6:00 PM, WEDNESDAY 22.

UM, LET'S UH, SEE WHO'S HERE.

UH, CRAIG NASER I'M HERE.

UH, RYAN CLINTON IS NOT HERE.

NANCY NEMER IS NOT HERE.

LISA MITCHELL HERE.

UH, KATIE YARROW HERE, UH, PALMER NEW HOUSE PALMER.

OKAY.

UH, KRISTEN HANSEN HERE.

JOANNE NORTON HERE.

LOT OF SMAGHI ULA LOUISE HERRERA.

UH, BEATRICE EAR SHE'S HERE.

YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU.

I'M LOOKING FOR, OH, THERE YOU ARE.

I SEE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, LET'S UH, START.

YES.

SO, UH, THAT'S NINE, I THINK 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

IT'S EIGHT.

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

OKAY, SO WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER.

IT'S EILEEN MCFALL.

ARE YOU HERE? EILEEN? COLLEEN, THIS IS DAVID TAKEN HARRIS.

YEP.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES EILEEN.

OKAY.

UM, MY NAME IS EILEEN MCFALL.

I'M A WILLIAMSON COUNTY RESIDENT WHO HAS GIVEN ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF MY TIME, ENERGY AND MONEY TO THE SHELTER, DOGS OF AUSTIN, BECAUSE I BELIEVED IN AUSTIN'S POTENTIAL AS A NO KILL COMMUNITY.

AND I WANTED TO BE PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT RESPECTS THE LIVES AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF ANIMALS IN ITS CARE.

FIRST AS A VOLUNTEER.

AND THEN AS A RESCUE DIRECTOR, I HAVE ADVOCATED FOR AUSTIN TO LIVE UP TO ITS POTENTIAL AS A NO KILL MODEL.

I RUN FINAL FRIENDS HERE, RESCUE PROJECT, THE MAIN RESCUE SAVING DOGS THAT AAC AACS MANAGEMENT INTENDS TO KILL.

IT'S NOT RESCUED.

WE HAVE LONG ADVOCATED FOR AAC TO DEVELOP THE CAPACITY TO HELP THESE DOGS.

AND IT HAS ALWAYS REFUSED, BUT UNDER DON BLAND'S LEADERSHIP, THE SITUATION HAS BECOME COMPLETELY UNTENABLE.

I EMAILED YOU EARLIER AND ATTACHED TWO CHARTS, SHOWING AACS INTAKES AND OUTCOMES OVERTIME GENERATED BY MY HUSBAND, CHRISTOPHER MCFALL USING OPEN DATA.

THE CHARTS SHOWED THAT THE CURRENT SPACE CRISIS IS NOT DUE TO HIGH INTAKE OR LOW OUTCOMES.

THE CHRONIC SPACE CRISIS IS DUE TO DON BLAND AND HIS TEAM'S MISMANAGEMENT.

RECENTLY, A CE SENT OUT AN EMAIL, THE RESCUE SAYING THAT THE SHELTER WAS HOUSING ABOUT A HUNDRED LONG STAY DOGS WITH BEHAVIOR ISSUES THAT AAC WAS NOT HELPING.

THE IMPLICATION OF THAT MESSAGE WAS THAT THE ONLY LIVE OUTCOME FOR THOSE DOGS WOULD BE THROUGH RESCUE.

MY RESCUE CANNOT COMPENSATE FOR GLANDS IN HIS TEAM'S REFUSAL TO TAKE EFFECTIVE ACTION, TO HELP THE LONG-STAY DOGS WHO ARE KEEPING KENNELS OCCUPIED.

SHORTLY AFTER THAT MESSAGE A C SENDS OUT A NEW RESCUE PARTNER AGREEMENT SAYING THAT DOGS TRANSFERRED TO RESCUE WOULD BE TRANSFERRED AS IS INCLUDING POSSIBLY NOT SPAYED OR NEUTERED.

AND THAT RESCUES WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY SUPPORT AT ALL.

FROM AAC.

DISAGREEMENT MAKES CLEAR, THERE IS NO PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN AAC AND RESCUES.

AND WHILE WE KNEW THAT FROM MANAGEMENT'S BEHAVIOR, SEEING IT IN WRITING WAS THE CATALYST FOR OUR DECISION.

AS LONG AS DON BLAND AND HIS TEAM REMAINED IN CHARGE AT AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, FINAL FRONTIER RESCUE PART PROJECTS WILL NO LONGER BE A RESCUE PARTNER OF AAC.

I HATE TO MAKE THIS DECISION BECAUSE I KNOW IT MEANS THAT MANAGEMENT WILL KILL MORE DOGS, BUT WE CANNOT COMPENSATE FOR HIS AND HIS TEAM'S REFUSAL TO IMPLEMENT NEEDED PROGRAMS. TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF LONG-STAY DOGS.

TRANSPORT IS NOT THE ANSWER.

KILLING IS NOT THE ANSWER.

COMPLETE RELIANCE ON A SMALL VOLUNTEER RUN RESCUE IS NOT THE ANSWER.

AAC NEEDS EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP TO FULLY IMPLEMENT THE NO KILL EQUATION, INCLUDING BEHAVIOR PROGRAMS AND A FOSTER ADOPTER RECRUITMENT TRAINING AND SUPPORT PROGRAM.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES.

IT'S ABOUT ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES AND THE ATTITUDE BEHIND DECISIONS ABOUT RESOURCES.

AUSTIN NEEDS COMPETENT, EFFECTIVE NO-KILL LEADERSHIP AND DON GLAND AND HIS TEAM ARE UNABLE AND UNWILLING TO PROVIDE IT.

AND I WOULD ADD THAT I AM THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING TONIGHT BECAUSE AS OTHERS HAVE TOLD ME, THEY'VE GIVEN UP, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE HAPPY WITH LEADERSHIP IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING CHANGING NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UM, OKAY, SO

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NEXT, SINCE WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, I'M SORRY, DO WE? THAT'S MY FAULT WE HAVE ONE IS INSIDE HIT IN PERSON, SARAH.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER.

I APOLOGIZE.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

SARAH AGUILAR FROM APA.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS SARAH AGULAR.

I'M THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS AT AUSTIN PETS ALIVE.

AND I'M HERE, UM, JUST TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON OUR MONTHLY REPORT REGARDING OUR LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.

UM, IN THE MONTH OF MARCH, 187 ANIMALS WERE TRANSFERRED OUT OF AAC TO 29 PARTNERS.

82 OF THEM CAME TO AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, AND THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN THAT WERE BORN IN CARE THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BORN IF WE HAD NOT TAKEN THEM.

UM, AUSTIN PETS ALIVE TOOK IN 5,472 PETS DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY AND AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER TOOK IN 5,506.

UM, WE ARE HOUSING CURRENTLY AT THE END OF THE MONTH, WE WERE HOUSING, UH, OVER A THOUSAND PETS AND FOSTER AND CONDUCTED, UH, ALMOST 900 ADOPTIONS DURING THE MONTH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TO BE REPORTING ON IS OUR PERCENTAGE OF INTAKE COMPARED TO PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.

I'M IN THIS REPORT WHERE I DO INCLUDE BOTH PRIOR AND CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, JUST FOR, UM, JUST TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES.

UM, SO THROUGH, UM, FROM OCTOBER, 2020 THROUGH MARCH 21, A C HAD TAKEN IN 3,627 PETS IN THIS YEAR.

UM, OCTOBER 21 THROUGH MARCH 22, UM, APA TOOK IN 607 FROM AAC, WHICH IS 17%, UM, OF PRIOR YEAR FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THOUGH.

UM, AACS INTAKE IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER AT 5,506 PETS OF WHICH EIGHT APA TOOK IN 607 IS ABOUT 12% OF THEIR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR INTAKE.

UM, ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES THAT WE'VE ADDED TO REPORT ON IS THE SURVIVAL RATE OF, UH, MEDICAL TRANSFER PETS FROM AAC TO APA.

AND THIS INCLUDES MEDICAL URGENT MEDICAL ATTENTION, UH, PARVO AND PANLEUK PETS IN THIS CURRENT MONTH REPORT.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE NEONATES.

UM, 27 WERE TRANSFERRED TO US OF WHICH 16 WERE ADOPTED FIVERR AND FOSTER AND THE SURVIVAL RATE OF 85%.

UM, I WAS CORRECTED THAT THESE PETS WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE BEEN EUTHANIZED.

UM, IF APA HAD NOT TAKEN THEM, ALTHOUGH THEY, WE ARE GIVEN A DEADLINE, UM, WITH WHICH TO PULL THEM.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST PAGE OF THE REPORT IS JUST OUR SHELTER, ANIMALS COUNT, UH, MATRIX, WHICH IS REPORTED, UM, THROUGH THEIR SITE AND AS PART OF OUR REQUIREMENT FOR OUR REPORT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, A SPEAKER, TECHNICALLY, WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO ASK QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SO LET'S MOVE ALONG,

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UH, BELINDA SENT THE MINUTES OUT TODAY.

I HOPE YOU GOT A CHANCE TO SEE HIM.

SO I'M ENTERTAINING A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES.

JOANNE MOVES TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES.

DO I HEAR A SECOND SECOND BY KRISTEN HANSEN? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

THEN I'LL CALL A VOTE.

IS ANYBODY OPPOSED TO ACCEPTING THESE MINUTES? SEEING, KNOWING THAT IT'S UNANIMOUS, HE SAYS JOINED US.

RIGHT.

GOOD.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY.

UM,

[2a. Austin Animal Center and Animal Services Reports. ]

NEXT BRIEFING, THIS US ANIMAL CENTER AND ANIMAL SERVICE REPORT, DON BLAND, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS TO JASON GARZA, DEPUTY CHIEF.

UH, SO FOR MARCH THE LIVE OUTCOME PERCENTAGE WAS 96.7%.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF NINE, EIGHT HUNDRED AND NINETY EIGHT ANIMALS BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER AND THAT INCLUDED DOGS, CATS, UM, SOME WILDLIFE FOUL, GUINEA PIGS.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 432 ANIMALS THAT WERE ADOPTED AND, AND WE HAD A TOTAL OF A, ACTUALLY 122 DOGS AND CATS THAT WERE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNER.

UH, APS WERE ABLE TO RETURN 46 ANIMALS IN THE FIELD.

WE DID HAND OUT 18 FENCING ASSISTANT APPLICATIONS AND PROVIDE A FENCING SUPPLIES, UH, TO TWO OF THE APPLICANTS.

UM, WE RE IMPOUNDED 154 INJURED ANIMALS AND DELIVERED 95 ANIMALS TO WILDLIFE RESCUE.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 260 VOLUNTEERS DONATE A LITTLE OVER 3,200 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE.

UH, THE COORDINATORS WERE ABLE TO HOLD SIX

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ORIENTATIONS FOR NEW VOLUNTEERS IN MARCH.

THEY INTRODUCED 187 PEOPLE TO THE SHELTER AND 77 NEW VOLUNTEERS ATTENDED THEIR FIRST TRAINING OR MENTORSHIPS IN, IN MARCH.

UH, WE HAD 71 ANIMALS ADOPTED DIRECTLY FROM FOSTER CARE.

WE HAD MORE THAN 140 DIFFERENT PEOPLE, FAMILIES THAT, UH, WERE FOSTERING FOR US AND 112 NEW FOSTER APPLICATIONS WERE PROCESSED.

AS OF, AS OF APRIL 1ST, THERE WERE A HUNDRED NIGHTS OF ANIMALS IN FOSTER CARE.

UM, THERE WERE 181 DOGS, CATS, GUINEA, PIGS, RABBITS THAT WERE TRANSFERRED TO OUR 23 OF OUR LOCAL AREA RESCUE PARTNERS.

UM, 32 DOGS WERE TRANSPORTED TO SEVEN OUT-OF-STATE AAC RESCUE PARTNERS.

UM, 210 CATS WENT THROUGH THE TNR PROGRAM AND 15 WENT THROUGH SNR, UH, WITHIN VET SERVICES.

OUR VETS WERE ABLE TO PERFORM 764 EXAMS. THEY SPAYED 410 ANIMALS.

UM, THEY RE THEY, UH, RESPONDED TO 50 EMERGENCY CASES, TREATED AT AAC AND 30 OF THOSE CASES WERE TRANSFERRED FROM THE EMERGENCY CLINIC.

UH, WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THE BILL, BUT THE EMERGENCY, UH, CLINIC BILL WILL PROBABLY BE OVER $30,000.

UM, WE ALSO, EMANCIPET ALSO CONDUCTED 359 SPAY AND NEUTER SURGERIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

DURING MARCH, WE WERE ABLE TO PRC WAS ABLE TO HAND OUT OVER 1500 BASIC PET ITEMS TO AREA RESIDENTS.

ABOUT 320 PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO GET ITEMS FROM US.

UM, OUR STAFF WAS ALSO ABLE TO WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT, UM, TO DEFER $21 WITH BEHAVIOR ISSUES, UM, FROM HAVING TO COME INTO THE SHELTER, WE HAD 180, 190 FOUND ANIMAL REPORTS AND 301 LOST ANIMAL REPORTS, UM, BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ALSO WITHIN THE, UM, INFORMATION FOR ANIMALS THAT, UH, WE EITHER WERE ADOPTED INTACT OR OUR RTO, UM, IN THE REPORTS THAT SAID THAT THERE WERE SEVEN, THE ADOPTED OF THOSE FIVE HAD URI ONE HAD OCULAR DISEASE AND YOUR EYE ONE HAD A LOW BODY COUNT.

AND SO, BUT ALL WERE GIVEN MEDICAL FORMS ARE SPAY NEUTER AGREEMENTS SO THAT THEY COULD GET SPAYED AND NEUTERED SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE AND CHARGE $50, UH, FEE.

UH, USUALLY WITH THE RCS THAT WE SEE, WE SEE THAT EITHER THEIR FIRST IMPOUNDMENT OR, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS DON'T WANT TO SIGN SURGERY, CONSENT FORMS, THEY JUST WANT THEIR, THEIR PET BACK.

UM, SO WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS CONTINUE TO EDUCATE, BUT YEAH.

UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT.

I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT THAT, UH, UH, W WE MET LAST WEEK WITH THE, UH, PERSON THAT ASSIGNED TO OUR IT SUPPORT AND RE REPORTING CAPABILITIES.

AND HE REPORTED THAT THE, UH, OF THE 16 MANDATED REPORTS BY COUNCIL, THAT BY THE END OF THE WEEK ON MAY 30TH, HE EXPECTS TO HAVE THE REASON OF DEATH AND THE SPAY NEUTER NOT PERFORMED WORKING COMPLETELY.

AND WHAT WILL BE REMAINING ARE THE SHELTER NUMBERS AND MEDICAL BILLING INFORMATION THAT HE'S RELYING ON OTHERS FAR.

AND HE EXPECTS THOSE TO BE FINISHED BY THE END OF JUNE.

SO HE'S GIVING US A, UH, A DATE THAT THEY MIGHT ALL BE COMPLETED, AND THEN HE CAN START WORKING ON ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS, BUT HE'S GOT TO GET THOSE COMPLETED AS WRITTEN BURST.

SO WANTING TO PASS THAT ON, UH, WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION, SOME OF THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DID, UH, PASSED LAST WEEK, UH, THE BULL HOOK ORDINANCE DEFINITION EXPANSION, UH, WAS PASSED BY COUNCIL.

SO THAT WAS ACCEPTED LAST WEEK.

UH, SO THAT, THAT YOU CAN CHECK THAT OFF OF YOUR LIST.

AND YOU'LL SEE, UH, ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, YOU'LL SEE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR ANIMAL SERVICES.

IT'S TO ACCEPT A GRANT OF 65,000 AND WHAT THAT IS FAR OUT.

YOU'VE HEARD ME EXPLAIN IT BEFORE, BUT, UH, THE COUNCIL OF STATE AND TERRITORY EPIDEMIOLOGIST IS GOING TO DO A SARS COVID STUDY ON, UH, OUTDOOR CATS.

AND SO THAT FUNDS WILL BE JUST PASSED THROUGH BECAUSE A S A H S WILL, UH, TNR THE CATS AND PULL THE BLOOD TO SEND TO A AND M.

AND OF COURSE, WE'LL JUST BE PAYING THEM FOR THE SERVICES.

SO, UH, IT'S REALLY NOT FUNDS THAT WE'RE GONNA USE FOR ANYTHING, EXCEPT FOR THAT, THAT, THAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT.

SO JUST A QUESTION.

YES.

SO THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO TEST CATS FOR CORONAVIRUS, CORRECT? IT'S THE, THE, THE STATE, UH, AND TERRITORY EPIDEMIOLOGISTS, THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE DOING A STUDY FOR ANIMALS IN THE WILD THAT, UH, THAT HAVE KIND OF ADMIRE US.

AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION OF CATS THAT LIVE OUTDOORS, COMMUNITY CATS, RIGHT? CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S DEER AND THERE'S WEASEL FAMILY AND CATS.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT CATS AND THEY WILL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, A AND M WILL BE ACTUALLY PROCESSING THE TEST AND PROVIDING THE INFORMATION BACK TO THE ORGANIZATION.

SO, UH, THEY'LL SEE WHAT THEY COME.

WE WERE, WE WERE ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS SELECTED TO DO IT IN THE STATE.

UH, AS YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT NOW THE CITY IS NOT REQUIRED AS, AS THE COVID UPDATE.

UH, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED.

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WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK IN THE CITY BUILDINGS AT THIS TIME.

UH, WE STILL ARE HAVING A FEW PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE OUT BECAUSE OF IT.

UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS EXCITING FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, UH, WE ARE DOWN TO 17 OPEN POSITIONS.

UH, NINE ARE POSTED FOUR IN BACKGROUND CHECKS.

UH, ONE IS SCHEDULED TO START, BUT UNTIL THEY START, WE CAN'T TICK THEM OFF YET.

AND THEN WE HAVE THREE INACTIVE INTERVIEW PANELS.

SO, SO WE'RE MAKING SOME GREAT PROGRESS AND WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO COME IN.

SOMETIMES IT'S IT'S, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE SCHEDULED INTERVIEW SET UP AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP FOR IT DIDN'T SO THEY WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR IT.

SO ANYWAY, WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

SO THAT, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UH, LET'S SEE.

THE OTHER THING, UH, WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, UM, IS ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE CITY BUDGET OR ANYTHING UNTIL IT'S RELEASED, BUT I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT NUMBERS WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR.

AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GIVE YOUR SUPPORT FOR US.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR, UH, TWO APO OFFICERS.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE ASKING FOR, FOR, FOR OUR PRC.

WE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR A CERTIFIED BEHAVIORIST, WE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR OUR CONVERTING FOR TEMPORARY PART-TIME ENRICHMENT SPECIALIST TO, TO FULL-TIME ENRICHMENT SPECIALIST, BECAUSE WE'VE FOUND, YOU KNOW, THESE PART-TIME TEMPORARY JOBS, THEY DON'T STAY VERY LONG.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A BETTER RETENTION RATE.

AND IN ANIMAL CARE, WE'RE ALSO ASKING TO CONVERT FOUR PART-TIME TO TWO FULL-TIME.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ASK OUR IT ANALYSTS, BATHROOM, PUBLIC HEALTH, WITH THE DOLLARS TO SUPPORT IT.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THREE FOR OUR FOSTER RESCUE.

SO THAT WILL BE A TOTAL OF 15 FULL-TIME POSITIONS.

UH, I DO WANT TO SAY I WENT TO A COUPLE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, AND EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT I SAW IS STRUGGLING WITH FILLING POSITIONS AND HAVING PEOPLE TO FILL THE POSITIONS.

SO, UH, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON HERE IN THE CITY.

JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DON? I HAD QUESTIONS, RIGHT.

SOMEBODY GO AHEAD.

THANKS.

UM, DON, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, I GUESS I'LL START WITH YOUR MOST WITH THE POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

WHAT WOULD CHANGE AS FAR AS THE SERVICES OFFERED BY THE SHELTER? WELL, WE'RE HOPING TO, UH, KEEP MORE ANIMALS OUT OF THE SHELTER WITH THE APS HELP.

UH, SO GOING IN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SPREAD REALLY THIN AND SOMETIMES BY THE TIME THEY GET A CALL AND GET THEIR SITUATIONS AND SOLVED.

SO WE HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE COVERAGE AND KEEP MORE ANIMALS OUT AND SUPPORT THOSE FOLKS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, THE PRC, UH, THE STAFFING TO HELP, YOU KNOW, MANAGE IT PROPERLY, TO DO, UH, MORE INTERACTION WITH THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY CALL IN, UH, WHEN THEY SHOW UP TO HAVE MORE TIME WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT, UH, WITH A SMALL NUMBER OF STAFF TO HANDLE THE VOLUME THAT'S COMING IN.

AND SOME, SOMETIMES FOLKS JUST HAVE TO WAIT AWHILE AND WE HOPE TO ELIMINATE AND BE ABLE TO SPEED THAT PROCESS UP, UH, BEHAVIOR, UH, HAVING A CERTIFIED BEHAVIORIST AND MORE PERMANENT STAFF THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOME MORE WORK WITH US, YOU KNOW, HAVING MORE AND MORE ISSUES WITH, UM, ANIMALS THAT HAD BEEN LONG STAYS.

AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEHAVIOR ISSUES.

THAT'LL GIVE US SOME OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME MORE WORK WITH THOSE ANIMALS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, AND DO MORE ENRICHMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION NOW BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF.

UM, SO OPEN, WOULD YOU BE OPEN, UH, THE REGULAR HOURS? DOES THAT YOUR ANTICIPATION OR YOU THINK YOU'LL ACCOMPLISH THAT WITHOUT HIRING THESE NEW POSITIONS? THAT I, I DON'T, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHEN WE WILL BE FULLY STAFFED AGAIN, BUT WITH, WITH THE STAFFING THAT WE HAVE NOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WHEN, WHEN THEY ALL COME BACK, WHEN WE GET THE PEOPLE BACK AND WE CAN FULLY STAFF UP, WE WILL, BUT THIS IS GOING TO INCREASE ONCE WE DO OPEN UP, EVEN IF WE'RE OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, THIS IS GOING TO GIVE US THE EXTRA DEPTH TO BE ABLE TO HELP THESE FOLKS WHEN THEY DO COME IN AND SPEND MORE TIME WITH HIM.

UH, ANIMAL CARE IS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SHORT AND THESE TEMPORARY

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POSITIONS, TEMPORARY PART-TIME TURNOVER VERY QUICKLY.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO CONVERT THESE TO FULL-TIME SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE STABLE WORKFORCE AND, UH, HAVE THE PEOPLE THERE.

AND OF COURSE OUR IT ANALYST, IF WE HAVE THAT PERSON FULL-TIME, WE CAN GET OUR REPORTING AND THINGS DONE MUCH QUICKER AND HELP WITH THE ANALYSIS.

WHEREAS WE HAVE TO RELY ON THEM, UH, WHEN APA CAN, YOU KNOW, FREE THEM UP AND THEN FOSTER RESCUE WITH THE, IT, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE REPORTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE BY MAY 30TH.

DO YOU HAVE THE MANUAL REPORTS AVAILABLE FOR, WHAT'S NOT BEING PROVIDED, UM, IN, UM, IN REPORT FORMAT, WHAT'S NOT BEEN CREATED BY IT.

WE DID.

AND I THINK JASON PROVIDED THOSE WELL.

OKAY.

AND THEN ONE MORE QUESTION IS ON THE COVID, UH, PROGRAM THAT YOU MENTIONED ON TESTING THE CATS, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE CATS, THAT TEST POSITIVE.

WHAT'S THE PLAN ON, ON THAT, BUT THE PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO BE ROLLED OUT, THEY WILL BE RELEASED JUST LIKE THEY WERE, ARE NOW RELEASED NO FURTHER MONITORING, NO NEEDING TO STAY AT THE SHELTER LONGER.

IT WILL JUST BE A BLOOD DRAW AND THEN RELEASED.

CORRECT.

AND WE WON'T KNOW THE RESULTS IF THEY TEST POSITIVE OR NOT UNTIL AFTER THE FACT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, JOANNE, THANK YOU.

UM, SO, UM, CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING ABOVE 95% AND THEN BEING FROM HOME FOR TOO LONG.

UH IT'S WHEN IT'S RED, I THOUGHT MIGHT HAPPEN.

THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR MAINTAINING NO-KILL AND TRYING TIMES WHEN THE SHELTER IS BUSY.

UM, I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, THANK YOU TO VET SERVICES, ESPECIALLY FOR ALL YOU DO.

I'M GETTING ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR FOSTERS TOMORROW, UM, WHO HAD A BUNCH OF STEAK BITES AND DIDN'T SOUND VERY GOOD.

AND I'M AMAZED AT EVERYTHING THAT YOU AND THE EMERGENCY CLINIC DID TO SAVE THIS DOG.

UM, THE, UM, ON PET RESOURCE, THE 21 DOGS WITH BEHAVIOR ISSUES THAT WERE DEFERRED, UM, DO WE GIVE, UM, TRAINING FACTORS FOR THOSE DOGS TOO? UM, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO THAT I KNOW FRIENDS OF US IN ANIMAL CENTER HAS TRAINING VOUCHERS SOMETIMES FOR BEHAVIOR ANIMALS.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE OFFER? THEY DO OFFER OKAY.

IF THEY WANT TO DO THEM.

OKAY.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND IT'S W IT'S LIKE TWO SESSIONS OR ONE SESSION? UH, IT WAS ONE SESSION, BUT THEN I READ IT WAS TWO SESSIONS.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE SESSION, BUT, BUT THAT'S GOOD.

UM, THE LONG STAYS ARE JUST FOR, ARE WE CONSIDERING LONG STAYS 30 DAYS ON, OVER OR LONGER THAN THAT, BECAUSE IT WAS 30 DAYS.

I'D PROBABLY EVEN BE MORE SO 30 DAYS, THERE'S A NEW DOG.

I KNOW IT.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS, I'M GLAD WE GET BEHAVIOR.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE GETTING A BEHAVIOR PERSON.

I'M GLAD THAT THERE'S SOME BEHAVIOR TRAINING AND THERE'S A PERSON NOW WHO I THINK DOES TRAINING FOR US TO, UH, TRAINING FOR VOLUNTEERS IF THEY WANT.

BUT, UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENT OF LONG STAYS HAVE BITES ON THEIR RECORDS? OKAY.

12%.

UH, AS, UH, 1ST OF MARCH, I BELIEVE IT, WHEN WE DID IT MARCH, 1ST OF MARCH, 12% OF OUR POPULATION ON S IN OUR ESCALATION HAD 12% AND WE FIND THOSE MORE CHALLENGING TO GET ADOPTED BECAUSE OUR RD EVEN, I MEAN, THESE ARE A LOT OF DOGS THAT APA EVEN TURNS DOWN.

SO IS IT MORE CHALLENGING BECAUSE THEY HAVE BITES ON THEIR RECORDS? CORRECT.

AND THOSE TEND TO SHOW UP TO BE THE LONG STAYS MOST OF THE TIME.

OKAY.

THE REAL LONG STAYS.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU, BEN.

I'M GLAD WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT.

I JUST IT'S, MAYBE WE CAN TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE IDEAS OF HOW WE GET ADOPTERS FOR THOSE DOGS.

CAUSE IT SEEMS THE LONG STAY, THE DOGS THAT BITES ON THEIR RECORDS AND THE DOGS WHO ARE, UM, SINGLE DOG ONLY ARE PROBABLY THE HARDEST TO GET OUT THE OUT THE DOOR.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND, UH, THE AP REPORT, UM, IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE OR CAN'T ANSWER THEM, THAT'S FINE.

BUT, UM, THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE THE LARGEST SUBSIDIZER OF THE CITY'S BUDGET TO SERVE AUSTIN ANIMALS.

I CAN'T MAKE THE MATH WORK ON THAT.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT THAT THEY'RE THE LARGEST SUBSIDIZER OF THE CITY'S BUDGET TO SERVE AUSTIN ANIMALS? THEY HAVE BEEN THE LARGEST RESCUE THAT HAS PULLED, RIGHT? CORRECT.

BUT IF THE LAND IS WORTH OVER $2 MILLION IN IT, AND DR.

JEFFERSON SAID IN HER DECEMBER 3RD, UH, EMAIL TO YOU THAT IT COSTS THEM 1600 ANIMALS COST $1.5 MILLION AND THEY'RE PULLING AROUND THAT.

IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM THAT THAT IS SUBSIDIZING THE CITY'S BUDGET.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LINE, BUT MAYBE I SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THEY COME AND TALK AND ASK THEM,

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ASK HIM WHAT I GOT IT.

OKAY.

AND IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ANIMALS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PULL, UM, HIS TRAP.

DOES TRAVIS COUNTY COUNT TOWARD THAT OR JUST SPECIFICALLY CITY OF AUSTIN, LIKE ON THE FRONT WHERE IT SAYS TRAVIS PASS OR TRAVIS PARVO PASS, DO THOSE COUNT TOWARD THE NUMBER THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PULL FROM? UM, AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER IN A FISCAL YEAR FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S THE ANIMALS THAT THEY PULL FROM AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER.

THAT'S, WHAT'S COUNTING.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S JUST PROVIDING IT FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

OKAY.

AND THEN, AND SO NOW IT SEEMED LIKE APA WAS REPORTING CALENDAR YEAR AND THE CITY REPORTS FISCAL YEAR.

UM, SO, AND THE FISCAL YEAR WOULD BE OCTOBER 1ST OF ONE YEAR TO SEPTEMBER 30.

FIRST OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, ON THE REPORT THEY PROVIDED WHERE THEY SAID, UM, UH, SO THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR APA INTAKES FOR ME, AAC WAS 607.

SO THAT WOULD BE FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2020 TO TEMPER FIRST OF 2021.

THAT'S IT SEEMED KIND OF LOW, BUT I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I'M SORRY, YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU.

SO IT'S NOT FAIR FOR ME TO ASK YOU.

SO ANYWAY, I'LL GO THROUGH IT AND ASK IT AS GOT A DIFFERENT MEETING, BUT, UM, OKAY.

UH, KRISTEN, LOTTA, OH, GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO A FEW QUESTIONS.

UM, MOST, WE CANNOT HEAR A LOT OF BETTER.

THERE YOU GO.

I'LL MOVE CLOSER.

THERE WE GO.

SO I'M ON THE FENCING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE, YOU SAID 18 APPLICATIONS WERE HANDED OUT AND TWO WERE RECEIVED SUPPLIES.

D HOW MANY OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE HANDED OUT WERE ACTUALLY RETURNED? WAS IT JUST THOSE TWO? YEAH, IT WAS JUST THOSE TWO BEFORE.

AND WE'RE TRACKING THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE, AND WE'RE TRACKING THAT ONLY BECAUSE WHEN WE PROCESS IT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BUY THE SUPPLIES AND THEN LEAVING IT WITH THE INDIVIDUALS.

OKAY.

SO I'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN COMMUNICATE BY EMAIL OR JUST AS FOLLOW UP JUST ON THE, SORT OF THE STEPS WE TAKE IN SUCH FOR FOLLOWUP.

LIKE, HEY, WE LEFT THE APPLICATION.

ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED? SO ON AND SO FORTH, WE HAVE ONE APO WHO'S DEDICATED TO WORKING THAT.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, IS THERE ANY KIND OF A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE AND FOLLOW AS FAR AS SPAYING AND NEUTERING? HOW, HOW LONG DO YOU HAVE AN ANIMAL THERE UNTIL YOU SPARE NEUTER? IT? UM, AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS BECAUSE A DOG RECENTLY WENT TO RESCUE AND IT WAS THERE FOR OVER APPROXIMATELY FIVE MONTHS, AND IT WAS NOT NEUTERED UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE IT WENT TO RESCUE.

NOW, I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S NORMAL PROTOCOL OR WHY THAT ANIMAL WAS THERE SO LONG WITHOUT BEING SPAYED OR NEUTERED.

AND IS THAT HAPPENING TO ALL THE DOGS THAT ARE BACK THERE IN THE SIX HUNDREDS THAT ARE OUT OF PUBLIC VIEW? THE LAST TIME I LOOKED A FEW DAYS AGO, UH, W IT DOGS THAT STAY FOR QUITE A LONG TIME AND AREN'T SPAYED OR NEUTERED, IT'S NORMALLY A MEDICAL ISSUE THAT THEY'RE NOT CLEARED NORMALLY AFTER SOMETHING COMES OFF STRAY HOLD, UNLESS IT'S TOO YOUNG OR IT'S, UH, MEDICALLY COMPROMISED, IT'S GET SPAYED AND NEUTERED.

THE OTHER DAY, WE HAD FOUR THAT WERE ELIGIBLE TO GET SPAYED AND NEUTERED, AND THEY WERE DONE THE NEXT DAY.

SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH PROCEDURE.

OKAY.

SO THIS WAS JUST, UH, DR.

WOOD.

SHE, SHE GOT A COMMENT SAYS TRUE.

UM, IT WAS A DOG WITH SEVERE BEHAVIOR ISSUES.

IT WAS A SAFETY ISSUE.

AND SO WE HAD TO, WE WERE WAITING UNTIL THERE WAS AN OUTCOME BECAUSE FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

OKAY.

AND IF YOU COULD JUST STAY UP HERE DR.

LINE, CAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IN REFERENCE TO, TO THE APA REPORT.

AND IT SAYS THAT, UM, THEY, UM, THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD SEVEN WARNING CARE THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BORN, BUT, AND THAT THE ANIMAL SERVICES REPORT SAYS NO SPACE AT THIS TIME, NO SPACE ARE PERFORMED ON PREGNANT ANIMALS.

CORRECT.

SO, UM, KNOWINGLY, KNOWINGLY, RIGHT.

SO THOSE, IF THOSE, IF APA HAD NOT PULLED THAT PREGNANT ANIMAL, THOSE KITTENS OR PUPPIES OR WHATEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN AT AAC, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

BY OUR COMPLIANCE WITH THEM, IF WE KNOW IT'S PREGNANT, WE SEND IT TO APA.

HOWEVER, HAD THEY CHOSEN FOR WHATEVER RANDOM REASON NOT TO TAKE THAT ANIMAL, EVEN IF IT WAS PREGNANT? NO, WE WOULD NOT WITH

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OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM.

IF WE KNOW IT'S PREGNANT, WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO THEM.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING, BECAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WAS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE APA, UH, SARAH ALREADY SAID THAT THE OTHER, DO YOU EVER WANT, MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE BEEN TRUE ABOUT THE PARVO BEING USED IN EYES, SO THAT WAS ALREADY ANSWERED BY HER.

SO THAT WAS ALL I HAD.

THANK YOU.

UH, I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP ON THAT.

UH, I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT, UM, NEUTERING, A MALE DOG.

THAT'S A BEHAVIORAL ISSUE.

UH, ISN'T THERE A WAY, IF A DOG HAS A BEHAVIORAL ISSUE TO, TO LIKE DART HIM OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY, UH, NEUTER HIM AND NOT BE A DANGER TO, TO YOUR STAFF, UM, WE DO HAVE DARTS THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS DO THE DARTING.

WE TYPICALLY HAVE TO PUT THEM IN ROLLING CAGES OR A SQUEEGEE PAIGE AND SEDATE THEM, UM, DO THIS DOG WAS, UM, PRETTY DANGEROUS AND HAD A PRETTY DANGEROUS HISTORY.

AND SO WE WAITED UNTIL THERE WAS AN OUTCOME BEFORE WE PUT OUR THEM AT RISK, OUR STAFF AT RISK TO NEUTRON.

OKAY.

SO AN OUTCOME, SOMEONE WHO WANTED HIM SOMEWHAT, YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, BECAUSE I'M NOT A VET, BUT I HAVE HAD ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO DOGS KNOW THAT IF YOU PARTICULARLY MALE DOGS, IF YOU NEUTER THEM, THEIR BEHAVIOR CHANGES PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY.

THAT'S A FALSE STATEMENT WHEN THEY'RE OLDER AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME.

SOME OF THOSE BEHAVIORS ARE ENTRENCHED IN THEM.

SO AN OLDER DOG DOES THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN SO MUCH, TYPICALLY NOT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'M JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS.

I'M TRYING TO LEARN, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

UH, KRISTEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS REPORT.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON DIFFERENT ITEMS ON IT, BUT BEFORE I WANT TO JUST SEE IT'S ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER APPRECIATION WEEK AND, UH, OUR OFFICERS, AND THEY'RE ALL PART THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL NOTABLE THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR RETURN AND FIELD WORK.

UM, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT FENCING AND, UM, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE HANDLING WILDLIFE, WHICH SO MANY UNITS DON'T, UM, AND SAVING WILDLIFE EVERY MONTH.

AND OF COURSE ALSO WANT TO COMMEND THE, UH, MEDICAL TEAM.

THIS IS A TIME OF YEAR WHEN THINGS GET REALLY CHALLENGING, UM, AND THOSE CASES ARISE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THOSE TWO THINGS.

UM, AND MY QUESTION, MY FIRST QUESTION IS HOW MANY ANIMALS WILL YOU? YOU TOLD US THERE'S ABOUT 192 IN FOSTER TODAY, BUT HOW MANY ARE IN THE SHELTER TODAY? FORGIVE ME ONE SECOND.

I JUST LOOKED AT, AND THEN I CLOSED IT.

SO OF COURSE I KNOW THERE'S 292 BIG DOGS.

I LOOKED AT THAT JUST BEFORE I WALKED IN, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO PROVIDE THE REST OF IT.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU FIRST WHAT WE HAVE, UH, ALTOGETHER WITH WHAT'S IN FOSTER, WE HAVE 431 WITHIN THE AAC OR IN FOSTER.

LET ME, UH, GET WHAT WE HAVE.

LET ME TAKE OUT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN FOSTER AND THEN WE HAVE 333 THAT ARE ON-SITE TOTAL ANIMALS, TOTAL DOGS, JUST DOGS.

OKAY.

AND, AND THAT NUMBER FOUR CATS.

UM, SO THE 192 ANIMALS IN FOSTER IS DOGS AND FOSTER OR TOTAL ANIMALS IN FOSTER, TOTAL ANIMALS IN FOSTER.

DO YOU OKAY IF WE COULD KNOW HOW MANY CATS ARE ALSO IN SHELTER, JUST I'M TRYING TO GET AN OVERALL IDEA OF HOW MANY ANIMALS ARE IN THE CUSTODY OF, UH, AAC RIGHT NOW.

WELL, AND I CAN'T, NO, THAT ONLY JUST SAYS HOW MANY KENNELS WE HAVE SO MANY CATS.

I CAN'T CONNECT TO A CHAMELEON FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT WORKING BECAUSE WE HAD 55 CANDLES OPEN FOR CATS, BUT I'M TRYING TO FIND THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF CATS THAT WE HAVE.

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TODAY'S CURRENT, THE SUNDAY STATISTICS THAT CAME OUT SUNDAY MORNING SHOWED WE HAD, UM, 395 DOGS AND CATS IN THE SHELTER.

AND IN FOSTER, WE HAD 217 OF THAT.

76 WERE KITTENS, 44 WERE CATS AND THE REST ARE DOGS.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THAT PUTS THE TOTAL, I BELIEVE AROUND 600.

UM, AND I'M I'M, THAT WOULD BE IT AROUND 600 TOTAL IN CUSTODY, I BELIEVE.

AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW THIS, UM, AS PART OF THE REPORT.

AND I THINK THIS WAS IN THE SPACE CRISIS RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL, BUT WHEN, IF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT NUMBER, THAT TOTAL NUMBER OF ANIMALS IN CUSTODY BROKEN UP BY CAT AND DOG, WHICH I THINK PRINTS OUT ON THE DAILY REPORT.

ANYWAY, IT'S HELPFUL TO LOOK AT HISTORIC DATA BECAUSE IT HELPS US KNOW IF THERE'S AN OVERALL SPACE CRISIS RELATIVE TO OTHER YEARS, THAT INVENTORY SEEMS, UM, AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY, BUT IT SEEMS REMARKABLY LOW.

UH, IN FOSTER, THE MANY SHELTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE INVENTORIES OF 500 TO 1500 ANIMALS IN FOSTER AND BIG DOGS.

THE MOST SUCCESSFUL STRATEGY RIGHT NOW FOR BIG DOGS IS DEDICATED FOSTER ASSISTANCE.

SO THAT'S MY SECOND QUESTION IS, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IN THE REPORT THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT THREE FOSTER AND RESCUE STAFF.

ARE THERE ANY STAFF PLANNED THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO ADULT DOG FOSTERING IN PARTICULAR, GIVEN THAT THAT'S THE BIG, BIGGEST CHALLENGE WE FACE? WE CURRENTLY HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS WORK THAT WORKS PART-TIME, UH, SHE JUST GOT MOVED PROMOTED, SO WE'LL BE REPLACING HER, BUT, UH, SHE WAS WORKING FULL TIME ON, UH, LARGE DOGS AND, UH, LONG STAY DOGS AND BEHAVIOR ISSUE DOG.

SO SHE WAS WORKING ON THE BIG DOGS AND, UH, SHE, YOU KNOW, WAS MAKING SOME PROGRESS AND, UH, GOT PROMOTED.

SO WE WILL BE REPLACING HER POSITION AND THAT'S NOT HER FULL-TIME POSITION, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE TASKS THAT SHE WAS TASKED WITH.

AND AS I HEARD, THAT JOB IS POSTED CURRENTLY.

AND WHEN, IF WE GET ANY ADDITIONALS, YES, THAT WOULD BE A FULL TIME, NOT JUST A PART-TIME POSITION.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY, OUR SHELTERS HIRING ADULT DOG FOSTER COORDINATORS, AND THEY'RE PLACING ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO A HUNDRED BIG DOGS IN FOSTER EACH MONTH.

SO THAT NUMBER REALLY DID STAND OUT TO ME AS QUITE LOW.

UM, THE OTHER, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD IS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE DATA RELATED TO THE REPORT, I NOTICED THAT A NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT USED TO ENTER ON SUNDAYS WERE BEING EUTHANIZED AS RABIES CONCERNS, OR THEY WERE BEING EUTHANIZED FOR SUFFERING.

AND I'M WONDERING WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW, IF A TAXPAYER TO THE SICK OR INJURED PET ON A SUNDAY, DARREN RATLIFF, UH, WE HAVE VET STAFF THERE ON SUNDAYS, AND MOST OF THE THINGS YOU'RE SEEING OR BEING A RABIES THAT IS WILDLIFE, THAT IS NOT DOGS AND CATS, THAT'S THAT'S WILDLIFE.

AND, UM, SO WE, WE HAVE THAT STAFF THERE ON SUNDAYS.

SO THEY WOULD TREAT IT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DAY OF THE WEEK.

IT BECOMES AN INJURY I WAS ASKING BECAUSE I MEAN, PARTLY I NOTICED IN THE REPORT THAT THE, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THERE AREN'T ANY ANIMALS REALLY ENTERING ON ON SUNDAYS.

AND I GUESS I WAS, WAS CONTACTED BY SOMEONE WHO FOUND A DOG THAT WAS INJURED, UM, SPENT FIVE HOURS TRYING TO GET HELP FROM AAC, CALLING 3, 1, 1, AND WASN'T ABLE TO, AND ENDED UP, SHE WAS DRIVING THROUGH TOWN AND ENDED UP HAVING TO TAKE THE DOG BACK TO KANSAS CITY WHERE SHE LIVED.

UM, AND THE, THE OWNER OF THE DOG WHO IS A RESIDENT, UH, DID ATTEMPT TO RECLAIM THE DOG.

AND IT, IT REALLY POINTED TO THE FACT THAT I I'M WONDERING IS SUNDAY, EVEN THOUGH THOSE SERVICES EXIST, IS THERE A CLEAR COMMUNICATION FOR THE PUBLIC TO, UM, GET, FIND OUT ABOUT THOSE SERVICES? CAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE IN THIS CASE, IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE PERSON TO FIND OUT THAT THAT HELP EXISTED.

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3, 1, 1 HAS NOT CHANGED.

AND SO THEY WOULD STILL TRY AND DISPATCH AN OFFICER, UH, THAT THAT HAS NOT CHANGED AT ALL.

AND WE HAVE A PROCESS IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO RECLAIM THEIR ANIMAL OR FOSTER OR RESCUE OR FOSTER NEEDS TO PICK UP ANIMALS ON SUNDAY, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT ALSO, AND THAT'S WORKING.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT SITUATION.

YEAH.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF YOU COULD SHARE WITH US THE SPECIFIC CALL, WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH 3, 1, 1 TO SEE WHAT THEIR, WHERE THEY BREAK DOWN THE COMMUNICATION THERE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE WE'VE AS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE WORKED WITH THREE ON ONE ON TRYING TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES THAT WE DO IMMEDIATE PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES WITH, UH, INJURED ANIMALS OR WHATNOT.

SO YEAH, IF WE HAD ANY INFORMATION YOU SHARED, LIKE THE INITIAL CALL, THAT WAY WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH ARE OUR CONTACTS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

I LOOKED ON THE WEBSITE AND IT IS NOT APPARENT ON THE WEBSITE, HOW TO GET, UM, HELP.

UH, SO, AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAD IS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH SOME HISTORIC INFORMATION AND I CANNOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE THAT THE VACANCY NUMBER AT AAC HAS EVER FALLEN BELOW 10 POSITIONS IN MY TIME.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE EVER FELL BELOW 10 VACANCIES.

AND SO I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE 17 CURRENT VACANCIES THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYBODY KNEW STARTED IN MARCH.

WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT YOU'RE HOPING TO GET TO? IS IT JUST THAT 10 VACANCY NUMBER THAT'S PRETTY COMMON FOR THE SHELTER OR IS IT ZERO VACANCIES IN ORDER TO, UM, PROVIDE, UH, SERVICES TO TAXPAYERS AND PETS ON SUNDAYS, WE HAVE 115 APPROVED POSITIONS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO GET TO.

UH, THIS IS THE HIGHEST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS WHEN I FIRST CAME IN, IT WAS A NINE AND IT WENT TO SEVEN AND WE DOWN TO THREE.

SO, UH, I, I'VE NOT EXPERIENCED THAT.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THIS STAFF A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS? YEAH.

SO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING US WITH THE LIST OF POSITIONS YOU'LL BE REQUESTING DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

UM, OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF THE CITY DOES NOT APPROVE ALL OF THOSE, I CAN'T REMEMBER 15 OR 17 POSITIONS, HAVE YOU PRIORITIZED, UM, OR CREATED A PRIORITY LIST IN TERMS OF WHICH POSITIONS YOU WOULD CHOOSE, UM, AS MAYBE YOUR TOP FIVE OR SO? UM, IF GIVEN THE BUDGET, WE ACTUALLY, A WEEK AFTER NEXT HAVE, UH, A MEETING WITH EVERYONE THAT REPORTS TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND WE WILL BE PRIORITIZING OUR ASK AS WELL AS, UH, COMPETING AGAINST OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING OVERALL DECISIONS ON WHAT IN THE CITY TAKES PRIORITY.

SO YES, THAT IS PART OF OUR PROCESS.

WHEN YOU DO PRIORITIZE THOSE POSITIONS, WAS THAT SOMETHING YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN THE CITY MANAGER RELEASES EVERYTHING, WE CAN SHARE ANYTHING WE CAN WITH YOU, UH, DOLLAR WISE, BUT YES, WE WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT AFTER IT'S PRESENTED.

OKAY.

AND THEN MY FINAL, MY FINAL COMMENT IS MORE OF JUST A CLARIFICATION EARLIER.

I BELIEVE ONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WAS ASKING ABOUT PREGNANT FEMALES AT AAC.

SO JUST TO CONFIRM IF A PREGNANT FEMALE STAYS AT AAC, YOU WOULD NOT, UH, SPADE THAT FEMALE WHILE PREGNANT, YOU WOULD ALLOW THAT FEMALE TO HAVE BABIES AT AAC, CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO PREGNANT FEMALES AT AAC WOULD GIVE BIRTH AT AAC.

IF IT, IF YOU KNOW, IT'S VISIBLY PREGNANT, WE WILL NOT SPY IT.

THAT'S PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH OUR RESCUE PARTNER.

AND FURTHERMORE, IT'S ACTUALLY WRITTEN IN THE CITY CODE.

SO IT'S VISIBLY PREGNANT.

WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT FOR RESCUES TOO, TO TAKE, BUT LIKE, HAS IT BEEN MENTIONED? WE DO HAVE THAT AGREEMENT WITH APA THAT ANYTHING THAT IT'S VISIBLY PREGNANT, WE, WE PROVIDED TO THEM.

OKAY.

BUT IF, FOR ANY REASON IT DID STAY AT AAC, IT WOULD GIVE BIRTH THERE.

AND THOSE PUPPIES WOULD BE UP FOR ADOPTION OR KITTENS WOULD BE UP FOR ADOPTION AT AAC.

WE HAVE HAD ANIMALS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN ON STRAY HOLD OR SHORTLY THEREAFTER THAT HAVE GIVEN BIRTH.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, I CAN ALSO MENTION THAT THEY ALSO, UM, THEN THE, THE FOSTER GROUP WILL BE ASKED TO TAKE THE MOM AND THE, AND THE BABIES OR SAME THING WITH A DOG AND PUPPY.

SO WE ROUTINELY, UM, CAUSE I'M ON THE FOSTER LIST.

I ROUTINELY GET REQUESTS, UH, TAKE THOSE ANIMALS.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, YEAH.

YES.

GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

OKAY.

IT ECHOED.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ME THAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE ANSWERING, UM, JUST A QUICK FOLLOWUP TO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK KRISTEN HAD ASKED, WHICH WAS ABOUT THE SUNDAY SITUATION AND CLEAR COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC.

AND TAXPAYER'S CONSTITUENTS, ALL THE FOLKS LIVING HERE IN THE

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CAMP.

WELL, AND REALLY ANYBODY WHO'S SEEKING OUT SERVICES RIGHT NOW FROM THE SHELTER.

UM, IF YOU CALL 3, 1, 1, IT SOUNDS LIKE JASON, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S PROTOCOL AND THAT PERHAPS IN THIS CASE, IT JUST DIDN'T.

SO THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN.

WHAT IF SOMEBODY ACTUALLY COMES TO THE SHELTER ITSELF SINCE IT'S CLOSED, BUT YOU WILL INTAKE, I GUESS, INJURED ANIMALS ON SUNDAYS.

THERE'S SOMETHING POSTED AS A WAY TO REACH THE FOLKS INSIDE THAT WE'LL BE DOING THAT TYPE OF INTAKE, OR I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALSO POSTED THE SHELTER AND IT'S NOT JUST A THREE ONE-ON-ONE CALL SITUATION.

I'LL HAVE TO CHECK AND FOLLOW UP.

BUT I KNOW, UH, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE PUT OUT OUR STATEMENT, IT WAS LISTED WHAT TO DO AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS ON OUR WEBSITE.

I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK BECAUSE IT WAS, IT TOLD FOLKS IF YOU NEEDED IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE, UH, WHAT TO ASK FOR WHEN YOU CALL 3, 1, 1.

BUT I, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF SOMEBODY JUST PHYSICALLY COMES TO THE SHELTER, LIKE THEY HAPPENED TO BE OVER IN THAT AREA, THEY SEE THE SIGN THAT SAYS CITY SHELTER, WHATEVER.

IF THEY JUST COME TO THE SHELTER, IS THERE SOMETHING POSTED THERE THAT SAYS, YEAH, CALL 3, 1, 1, OR HERE'S HOW YOU REACH THE PEOPLE INSIDE ON A SUNDAY THAT WILL ASSIST YOU.

I JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T COME OVER PHYSICALLY TO THE SHELTER AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING POSTED.

I DO BELIEVE IT'S ON THE OUTSIDE.

UH, BUT I'LL CHECK TO MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

AND I GUESS MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION WAS IF THERE, IF THE PERSON IS STILL THERE FROM APA WHO DELIVERED, I GUESS THEIR REMARKS AT THE BEGINNING, CAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE APA REPORTS, BUT WE'RE ASKING CITY STAFF AND I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE BEST COMING FROM THE FOLKS THAT WROTE THE REPORT.

THEY MIGHT HAVE THE BEST ANSWERS RATHER THAN US PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE CITY TO ANSWER FOR APH BEFORE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? IF THE PERSON WAS JUST HERE AS A SPEAKER, THE THE WAY WE SHOULD DO THIS IS, AND SO APA KNOWS THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE US A REPORT, CALL ME THE CHAIR AND WE'LL PUT IT ON AS ANOTHER ITEM, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT YOU CAN'T PUT THE APA UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

AND WHEN IT'S, IT WAS JUST A THREE MINUTE, WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THOSE.

AND THAT'S PARTLY BECAUSE OF, OF TOME, I THINK, WELL, HOWEVER IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

I GUESS WE NEED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN THAT WAY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S THE BEST PROTOCOL FOR SOMEBODY TO BE ASKING SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T WRITE THE REPORT, WHAT WAS MEANT BY IT KIND OF PUTS PEOPLE ON THE SPOT.

AND THAT'S, I THINK WHAT SARAH WAS TRYING TO DO, SARAH CAME, I THINK, UH, IF I CAN READ HER MIND TO GIVE A MONTHLY REPORT, BUT SHE DOES COME UNDER BRIEFINGS, BUT WE CHANGED THAT FROM STAFF BRIEFING SO THAT SHE COULD BE INCLUDED UNDER BRIEFING.

SO, UH, NORMALLY, TYPICALLY SHE HAS COME TO GIVE THE QUARTERLY REPORT.

I THINK SHE WAS DOING US A FAVOR PERHAPS TODAY BY JUST GIVING US THE MONTHLY REPORT, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT CRAIG.

AND THAT IN ORDER FOR HER TO BE QUESTIONED, SHE SHOULD HAVE COME UNDER BRIEFING.

SO THAT'S JUST A MISCOMMUNICATION.

AND IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, CONTACT ME CAUSE WE CAN PUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT IT ON, WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST THE WAY THE RULES WORK.

UH, I HAVE, UH, LET'S SEE.

UH, GREAT, SORRY.

ONE THING ON THAT, UM, APA IS STILL REQUIRED UNDER THE NEW LIGHT LICENSE AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE A QUARTERLY UPDATE.

YES.

WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN THIS MONTH.

SO, UM, BUT THAT'S FINE.

I AGREE.

IT NEEDS TO BE ON HERE.

AND I CERTAINLY DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT DR.

BLAND ON THERE.

I WAS JUST, WE HAD A REPORT LESS THAN THREE MONTHS AGO.

I THINK SO.

YEAH.

UM, OKAY.

I DO HAVE A, UH, THE BIGGEST, UM, COMPLAINT I HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO TAKE ANIMALS TO THE SHELTER ON THE WEEKENDS.

AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I, I LISTENED TO THE RULES, THINGS GOING ON AND THE INFORMATION AND I GET IT.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS THAT WAY, BUT UH, WE'RE WE GOT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE, THAT WE COULD WORK ON THAT TO MAKE IT CLEARER SOMEHOW.

CAUSE SOMEHOW STUFF GETS THIS, LIKE THIS THING THAT KRISTIN MENTIONED, I HAD HEARD SOME OF THE SAME STUFF ABOUT, AND, AND MAYBE THESE PEOPLE AREN'T DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT IN THE END IT'S UM, THAT'S WHAT WE GET, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I THINK JASON WANTS TO KNOW SPECIFICS SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND SEE IF THERE IS A FLAW IN OUR PROCESS WITH 3, 1, 1, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE TELL US THEY HAVE CALLED 3, 1, 1, NOT SAYING THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED IN ANY OF THESE CASES TODAY, BUT WE FIND OUT THAT FREE ONE, ONE HAS NO ACTIVITY REGARDING THAT PARTICULAR COLOR.

SO IT'S TOUGH TO TRACK THESE DOWN.

RIGHT? SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION IT AS THESE HAPPEN,

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IS THERE SOMEONE I COULD CALL TO CHECK THEM OUT ON LIKE BELINDA, COULD I CALL YOU? AND, AND, AND, AND BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT MIGHT HELP US GET NAIL IT DOWN QUICKER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

IF IT WAS AT 3:00 AM, PROBABLY I'D BE ASLEEP.

NO, I'M NOT CALLING YOU THREE.

I'LL BE SLED, UH, ON THE, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN ANY QUICKER.

I MEAN, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THERE AND WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND GET SERVICE.

YEAH.

DO YOU GET A STAT OR REPORT? WHY PEOPLE CALL THROUGH ONE-ON-ONE IN REGARDS TO ANIMALS? DO YOU KNOW? 3, 1, 1 THAT'S MY DAUGHTER 3, 1, 1 DOES PRODUCE REPORTS THAT TALK ABOUT THEIR CALL VOLUMES AND WHAT THE REASONING ARE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF THEY PUT THEM OUT QUARTERLY OR YEARLY.

WELL, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S THE CITY THAT HAS US USED 3, 1, 1.

I WOULD RATHER ANSWER THE PHONE, FRANKLY, MYSELF PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I HATE CALLING THINGS WITH MENUS AND THREE ONES, ONES, BUT IT'S THE CITY PROCESS FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS GO THROUGH 3, 1, 1.

OKAY.

WELL, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL CALL YOU THE NEXT TIME SOMETHING I HAPPENED TO SEE IF YOU CAN HELP ME.

MAYBE YOU CAN'T DURING THE WEEK, DURING THIS TIME.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OH, THIS IS A JOKE.

UH, I'LL JUST LIKE GREG THAT, UM, 3, 1, 1 JUST WENT THROUGH AN AUDIT AND, UH, WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM, UH IT'S LATER THIS WEEK OR THE FIRST OF NEXT WEEK, UH, TO GO OVER RESULTS.

AND SO I'M HOPING THAT, UH, WE CAN, UH, REINFORCE, UH, OUR PRIORITIES AND THEY'RE ALL FOLLOWING THE PROCESSES THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE.

I, IF I MIGHT CREATE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING, IT'S DUE TO STAFFING.

WHEN YOU HAVE SOME, A 3, 1, 1 PERSON ALL TRAINED UP AND THEN THEY MOVE SOMEPLACE ELSE TO MAKE MORE MONEY, OR BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN AUSTIN ANYMORE.

WE HAVE TO START ALL OVER.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE HEARING THAT, OF COURSE THE WHOLE CITY IS FACED WITH THIS STAFFING ISSUE.

AUSTIN HAS BECOME TOO EXPENSIVE FOR OUR CITY SALARIES.

YES.

WE CANNOT HIRE VETS.

WE CANNOT ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WORK IN ANIMAL WELFARE HERE BECAUSE THE CITY HAS BECOME TOO EXPENSIVE.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S A MAJOR ISSUE RIGHT NOW WITH ALL OF OUR, UH, YES, I HEARD WHEN OUR WATER SYSTEM WENT OUT, THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE LOW ON STAFF AND THEY HIRED PEOPLE.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING, WHICH, UH, THAT REALLY DIDN'T GET OUT IN THE NEWS, MAYBE LIKE THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS HEARING.

SO YEAH, I, WE JUST NEED TO KEEP ON TOP OF IT THOUGH.

UH, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION THOUGH, CAUSE WE GOTTA MOVE ON.

UM, OKAY.

IF SO BEHAVIORAL DOGS BEING, UH, SPAYED OR NEUTERED, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE AND WHEN THEY GET SPAYED AND NEUTERED OR THERE IS, OR IS IT JUST SORT OF BEHAVIOR DOGS OR JUST BEHAVIOR DOGS? NO, WE DON'T DISCRIMINATE.

IT GETS MALE AND FEMALE.

THE DOG'S DISCRIMINATE.

NO, I MEAN THIS ONE PARTICULAR DOG THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT IT, ISN'T JUST KNOCKING THEM DOWN.

IT'S RECOVERING THEM AND, AND THE AFTERCARE AND WHATEVER, AND JUST KEEPING STAFF SAFE.

RIGHT? YEAH.

I UNDERSTAND.

IT DOES NOT HAPPEN OFTEN.

THIS WAS JUST OUR PRETTY BAD DOG.

RIGHT.

UH, CAUSE I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHATEVER WE CAN DO.

I MEAN, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO KEEP THESE BEHAVIOR DOGS FROM BEING SUCH A, A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW ANECDOTALLY AND THROUGH PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ABOUT DOGS IN GENERAL BEING SPAYED OR NEUTERED BEHAVE MORE DORSALLY, BUT THAT'S JUST A GENERAL THAT TAKES A LONG TIME TO, TO HAPPEN.

AND IF THAT STUFF IS ALREADY IN THERE AND THEY'RE SEVERAL YEARS OLD, THAT IS NOT A TRUE STATEMENT.

SO THEY'RE JUST AS A BEHAVIORAL PROBLEM AT THAT POINT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO.

THOSE BEHAVIORS ARE IN THEIR BRAIN AND IT'S DONE IF THEY'RE YOUNG.

YES.

IF THEY'RE OLDER THAT DOESN'T REALLY, IT'S NOT A TRUE STATEMENT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT GO ACROSS THE BOARD.

THAT'S JUST IN GENERALITY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S WHY IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A DOG BEHAVIORALIST ON STAFF TO DEAL WITH THE SPECIFICS.

UH, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WOULD BE MORE ADEPT AT UNDERSTANDING THE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

OKAY.

WELL LET'S MOVE ON.

IS THERE CRAIG? I HAVE, I HAVE ONE FOLLOW ON QUESTION FROM A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, NOT READ UP ON YOUR BED.

SO BACK IN, IN FEBRUARY WHEN YOU FIRST OR WHENEVER IT WAS WHEN WE WERE FIRST INFORMED ABOUT THE SHELTER CLOSING ON SUNDAYS, HE SAID, THERE'S DONE

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A REPORT, STUDIED FIVE YEARS OF DATA, ASKED FOR THE REPORT.

DIDN'T GET IT MARCH.

I ASKED AGAIN, YOU SAID, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME THE REPORT THAT WE GOT ONLY HAD FISCAL YEAR 2021.

SO DO YOU, UM, I'M STILL WAITING ON THE FIVE YEARS OF DATA THAT YOU SAID YOU HAD, THAT YOU WOULD SEND TO SUPPORT SUNDAY BEING LOWEST OUTTAKE OR ADOPTION DAY OUTCOME DAY.

WHEN WE PULL OUT ALL OUR DATA FROM, UM, THE ADOPTIVE PET SOFTWARE, IT HAS, UH, I THINK IT WAS EIGHT MONTHS OF DATA THAT, THAT WILL PROVIDE US THE DAY THAT THEY SIGNED UP TO BE ADOPTED VERSUS THE DAY THEY WERE OUTCOMES.

EVERYTHING ELSE WAS DONE BY A MANUAL SURVEY.

AND THEY DID SAMPLING OF THE SAME MONTH FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SAME MONTHS FOR THE EACH YEAR.

AND IT WAS DONE MANUALLY.

AND I ASKED FOR THAT AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SENT TO YOU.

NO, THE ONLY THING THAT WE GOT WAS FYI 20, 21.

OKAY.

AND THEY HAD THE LITTLE CHART AND GRAPH AND EVERYTHING AND IT, AND IT SHOWED THAT THE NUMBERS WERE DOWN IN 2021 ON SUNDAYS, BUT I HAVE NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO PREVIOUS YEARS TO SEE IF IT'S, IF THAT'S THE CASE.

I KNOW THAT, UM, THE, UM, POWER BI DATA THAT'S OUT THERE ON THE DASHBOARD RIGHT NOW, IF YOU PULL IT FROM 2016 TO 2022, IT DOES SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, THE LOWEST DAY IS ON SUNDAY AT 37.

UM, AND YOU CAN PULL THAT.

UH, OKAY.

SO THAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE FILTERS, THOSE REPORTS, IF YOU GO TO OUR DASHBOARD AND LOOK AT OUTCOMES, THE ADOPTION OUTCOMES, AND YOU CAN DO IT AND PUT YOUR YEAR RIGHT IN JUNE.

AND, UH, JUST, UH, THE AVERAGE FROM 2016 TO 2022, MONDAY IS 40 TUESDAY, 45, WEDNESDAY 38 TO THURSDAY, 37, FRIDAY 39, 7 SATURDAY 44 IN SUNDAYS 37.

AND THAT SAME TIME PERIOD WITH THE S ON INTAKES ON MONDAY WAS 44, TUESDAYS 43, WEDNESDAY 43, THURSDAYS 41 FRIDAY 41, SATURDAY 38.

AND SUNDAY'S 33.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, AND THAT,

[3a. Monthly Reporting of Data. ]

THAT MOVES US TO THREE OLD BUSINESS, MONTHLY REPORTING OF DATA.

THAT'S OUR QUESTION.

YES.

GO AHEAD.

UM, DON ON THE, DO YOU HAVE DATA REGARDING THE LENGTH OF PROCESSING AND ADOPTION? HOW MANY ANIMALS, WHAT PERCENTAGE IS AVAILABLE TO GO HOME THE SAME DAY THEY'RE APPLIED? WELL, WE HAD, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD LAST ON MARCH, THE 1ST OF MARCH WHEN WE DID THE DATA, THERE WAS ONLY FOUR THAT WERE ELIGIBLE, EVERYTHING THAT WAS SPAYED AND NEUTERED, THAT IT WAS 317 ANIMALS.

I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK NOW.

BUT, UM, IT, THE ONLY THING THAT WASN'T SPIDER NEUTERED, EXCEPT FOR THOSE FOUR THAT JUST CAME AVAILABLE THAT MORNING WERE EITHER SICK, INJURED, OR TOO YOUNG.

SO EVERYTHING ELSE WAS AVAILABLE.

SO OVER 75% OF OUR POPULATION WAS AVAILABLE TO WALK OUT THE DOOR AT THAT POINT.

AND THAT WAS ONE DAY.

OR DO WE HAVE LIKE, DO WE HAVE MONTHS OF THAT DATA? WE HAVE THAT, THAT IS ON THE DASHBOARD AND CAN BE PULLED UP AT, AT ANY POINT.

BUT YES, IT WAS.

THAT WAS JUST THE LAST DAY I LOOKED AT IT.

DO YOU THINK THAT WE COULD START GETTING THAT TO SEE ON A MONTHLY BASIS, UM, ON EACH GIVEN DAY, HOW MANY ANIMALS ARE AVAILABLE, UH, THAT ARE AVAILABLE ARE NOT YET SPAYED OR NEUTERED? I THINK THAT IS, UH, LET ME, LET ME LOOK AT CHRIS'S REPORT TIMELINE REAL QUICK.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE ONE THAT HE'S GOT TO GET SOME MORE DATA ON.

HANG ON JUST A SECOND.

OKAY.

HERE IT IS.

UM, NO, UH, WE SH THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE DASHBOARD CURRENTLY, SO YOU COULD GO OUT THERE TO THE DASHBOARD AND LOOK AT THAT DATA AT ANY POINT.

UH, WE JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO ADD THE WHY I SPAYED IN NEUTER WASN'T FORMED UNTIL THE END OF MAY, BUT THE, ALL THE ONES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE SPAYED AND NEUTERED ALREADY OUT THERE ON THE DASHBOARD.

UH, OKAY.

AND, BUT, BUT THERE'S NO, LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE THE REPORT AVAILABLE FOR US THAT SHOWS LIKE STATISTICALLY SPEAKING THE NUMBER OF DAYS TO PROCESS AND THE PERCENTAGE.

NO, NOT UNTIL HE GETS THE REASONS PUT IN WHY THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE.

WE'D ALL IT, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY AVAILABLE IN OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW ARE SPAYED AND NEUTERED THAT THAT

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IS AVAILABLE.

AND YOU CAN SEE, OKAY.

WHEN SOMEONE APPLIES FOR AN ANIMAL, IS THAT DATE CAPTURED ON THE RECORD OF OUTCOME? I DIDN'T, I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION.

IF SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE WALKS INTO THE SHELTER ON SATURDAY AND APPLIES FOR AN ANIMAL, BUT FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, CAN'T TAKE IT HOME.

IS THAT SATURDAY DATE CAPTURED ON THE RECORD BEFORE ACTUALLY THE OUTCOME DATE? NO, IT ACTUALLY WOULDN'T EXITS IS THE OUTCOME SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN, THERE'S NO MEMO OR NO TIMESTAMP, NO DATE.

IT, IT IS IN OUR, A PET SOFTWARE IF SOMEONE ADOPTS THE ANIMAL, BUT DOESN'T TAKE IT HOME UNTIL LATER THAT IS CAPTURED THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, WE ONLY HAVE EIGHT MONTHS OF THAT DATA BECAUSE THAT'S NEW SOFTWARE IN CHAMELEON.

IT IS NOT CAPTURED LIKE THAT.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I HAVE, UH, UH, UH, JASON LEFT, BUT DID HE DO THE REPORT WITH THE COLORED CIRCLES AND EVERYTHING? YES, HE DID.

AND HE HAD AN EMERGENCY, SO HE HAD TO LEAVE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT, I KINDA WANTED TO THANK HIM FOR TRYING TO DO THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO.

THAT TAKES A LOT OF, I KNOW, AND, AND CAUSE SOMETIMES THE COLORS HE REFERRED TO WHAT THE COLORS MEANT, BUT THEN HE DIDN'T, UM, THAT MADE A LITTLE TRICKY.

ALSO