Apr 25, 2022 Design

AND WE DO A REAL QUICK THUMB.

BURKE JONES IS ON THE LINE.

YOU SAID CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

UM, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, TWO FIRE REPRESENTATIVES WITH SIMON PRESSLEY.

THE QUESTION AND ANSWER MYSELF.

I'M CHRIS ROOT BUSH WITH PTL WITH DON'T WORKER.

WHAT'S THE BURGER.

UM, AND LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE WITH YOU.

UM, SO OTHER ITEMS HAVE NOTICED THERE'S NO PUBLIC TRANSPORT WITHIN A QUARTER MILE, WHICH THEN AFFECTS OUR LEAD RATINGS, UM, IN OUR, WITH, WITH THE CITY ELEMENTS.

UM, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING TONIGHT IS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT BRANCH FIRE STATION CONTEXT, CAUSE THE FOURTH FIRE STATION OF A BUCKET OF FIVE DESIGN-BUILD FIRE STATIONS, UH, BEING DONE FOR, UH, FIRE AND EMS. THE THREE ON THE SCREEN, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT SHOWS.

IT'S NOT COMMISSION IN THE PAST.

I JUST WROTE THE FIRST THREE.

UH, BOTTOM LEFT WAS DEL VALLEY, UH, DONE TWO SUMMERS AGO, UH, OPEN TWO SUMMERS AGO, AND THEN TRAVIS COUNTY COUNTRY, OUR STATIONS OPENED LAST SUMMER AND THEN DAVENPORT RANCH, WHICH IS BOTTOM RIGHT, IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.

AND SO WE'LL REPRESENT YOU.

THIS IS THE FOUR, WHICH IS, UH, CALLED GOODNIGHT RANCH.

AND I'M GOING TO RENUMBER WESLEY TO WALK THROUGH THE SITE.

WE DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE PORTION AND THE DEAL, SOME, UH, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS TO AUSTIN ENERGY COULD HIT DOORS AND FIN ROUTE.

SO I'LL BE WATCHING THAT DOOR FOR HER TO COME.

I TEXTED HER HOW TO COME IN THAT DOOR.

SO WAS HE ABLE TO DO DESIGN A LITTLE LANDSCAPE, TALK OF THE SUSTAINABLE? ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M SURE EVERYONE'S PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE GOODNIGHT RANCH DEVELOPMENT, UH, BUT IT'S IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN OR SEE THAT LITTLE RIGHT AT THE DOT SCREEN, 800 ACRE DEVELOPMENT I NEEDED DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THE PROGRAM FOR THIS FIRE STATION IS SIMILAR TO THE PROGRAM FOR THE OTHER THREE THAT ALREADY DIED, UM, SPELLING 15,000 SQUARE FEET, LOTS OF TRAININGS THERE, OR PULL THROUGH APPARATUS BASED HAVE STAFF PARKING, UM, THE SOLUTION FOR THIS TWO-STORY SOLUTION PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF SITE CONDITIONS AND PRODUCING THEIR RESPONSE CLASSROOM STATION.

UH, THE REST OF THE PROGRAM IS A FREE STAY ROOM, KITCHEN, GYM GEAR, STORAGE IN DORMS. I SLIDE, UM, GOING RIGHT THERE.

WE SEE THE MASTER PLAN FOR GOOD BANK BRANCH IN OUR SITE IS DOWN ON THE, ON THE MIDDLE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SPRAIN.

UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY RIGHT ON THE CORE GROUPS, AUSTIN CITY LIMITS.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT'S, THAT'S THE GRADING THAT'S PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPERS.

SO THAT'S ALL SLOPING INTO THE LEFT, WHICH IS GONNA TAKE ALL THE SURFACE WATER TO A POND THAT SMALL SIDE THERE, UM, IN THE ELEMENT.

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UH, PART OF THE REASON WE'RE HERE TO BE PERMITTING THROUGH, STAY BOSTON AND COMPLY WITH SUCH CATEGORY.

UM, A DEVELOPER IS DOING THE ROUGH GRADING AS YOU SEE, AND I DON'T UTILITIES INSECT.

IT'S JUST A IMAGE OF WHAT THE CYBER, MAYBE SIX MONTHS AGO, WE'D DO A LITTLE BIT GRAFTED.

THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF PAIRING ALL THAT LAND, INSTALLING THOSE TWO ROADS, SEE CAPITOL VIEW VIGOR, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SITE REALLY EXTENDS OUT TO ABOUT, UH, MAYBE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED YARDS FROM SLAUGHTER.

AND THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE TO EXTEND CAPITAL UP TO SLAUGHTER, AND THEY ARE SILVER ON THE CORNER OF A NEW ROAD, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST YET AND ALL STOCK MEN AND COWS EAT, WHICH DOES EXIST, BUT IT DOESN'T TOUCH STAFFING.

THAT'S FINE.

IT'S JUST THE WORK GOING ON TODAY.

SEE THAT THE SPECI CAPITOL VIEW OF THIS LONGER THEY'RE WORKING ON SLIDE AND NEXT TO THAT, UM, THE DISTANCE, THEIR STOCK WILL RUN PARALLEL TO THAT SLOT.

PROVIDING ALSO ADDITIONAL TRAINING, DEVELOPING THEIR X OUT APPARATUS PACE.

SO AS YOU SAW EARLIER, IF THAT IMAGE IS A THREE-STAGE, WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED IT EACH STAGE, IT HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AESTHETIC AND WE TRY TO TIE THEM INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'RE PART OF HERE.

PETE VISITED THE SITE.

I NOTICED, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDS OUT IS THE STUDENTS THAT THEY'RE BUILDING ON THE SITE.

AND WHILE THESE ARE PRETTY, UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL, UH, ASKED DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING, UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THEY USE THESE SURFACES BLIND COLOR TO JUST CREATE A MODEL THAT WOULD BE CATHARTIC, UM, RIGHT IN COLORFUL POS GREAT BACKGROUND.

SO WE TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF INSPIRATION FOR THAT SPACE SETTING THE STAGE, NEXT SLIDE.

SO IF YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ON A CORNER SITE, UM, SO THIS DIAGRAM JUST KIND OF SHOWS HOW WE WENT ABOUT WITH THE MASSEY ON THE STATION, THE FIREFIGHTERS, EMS WORKERS, A LOT OF PULL THROUGH STATION, UM, JUST AIDS IN RESPONSE TYPES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO BAYS.

UM, THOSE ARE THE TWO MATTER FOUR BAYS.

THOSE ARE THE TWO MASSES ON TOP.

THE MIDDLE MASS IS OFFSET TO THE RIGHT SLIGHTLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A POLICE STATION TO THE LEFT.

SO THAT JUST AIDS IN, UM, THE FUEL STATION, NOT CONFLICTING ACCESS INTO THOSE MIDDLE BASED THEN BE A TWO-STORY STATION.

IS THAT MASK ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THEN DIAGRAM ON THE RIGHT AND JUST SHOWING HOW WE TAPERED THE FACADES TOWARDS THE PUBLIC STREETS, UM, JUST TO GET TO THE BUILDING A LITTLE MORE FRIENDLY PRESENCE TO THE PUBLIC, UH, BASED IN PUBLIC SLIDE.

ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE HERE.

UM, WE HAVE, EXCUSE ME, MASSES THAT ARE WRAPPED AROUND A SPACE AND THE STATE SHOULD BE FINE TO, UM, A LOT OF LANDSCAPE, A NICE CHUNK OF OPEN SPACE ON A SITE WITH CREATIVE AND CONVERT AND THE TRAINING AREAS FOR FIRE EMS ADS FOR RECREATIONAL AREAS FOR THEM.

UM, WE HAVE SECURE PARKING AND THERE ON THE LEFT SIDE AND DOWN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER, WE HAVE ONE, UM, ACCESSIBLE PARALLEL PARKING SPOT BECAUSE THERE'S THE REST OF THE STREETS WILL HAVE PARALLEL PARKING ALL ALONG THEN.

SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF OTHER SPOTS FOR ONE DEDICATED, ACCESSIBLE SPOT.

THAT WAS WHAT WE TOUCHING ON THE LANDSCAPING DESIGN POPUP.

THEY COULD, THAT'S FINE.

RIGHT? THE FLOOR PLAN, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, A SIMILAR PROGRAM PROVIDING FOR THE CLEAR STATIONS, THE PROMPT THAT YOU PROCEEDED QUIETER IN EMS IS THE VARIETY CAN BE IN THE LIVING SPACE, FIREFIGHTERS AND EMS RESPONDERS.

SO WE HAVE A BIG KITCHEN AND DATA ROOM AND DINING ROOM THERE ON THE BOTTOM SIDE, WHICH BLEEDS OUT INTO A PATIO.

IT'S KIND OF A ISSUE TO THAT GROUP.

UM, EXTERIOR GRID GM ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THE TRADING ROOM BE ABLE TO DETACH AND STARE.

UM, IT'S, UH, TRAVIS COUNTRY PUBLISHES THE SECOND, THE STATION THAT LIGHTS THE FIRE AND EMS CAN TRAIN FOR LADDERS.

UH, AND THEN SHE CAN SEE THEM FOR PULL THROUGHOUT AROUND.

I WAS AMAZED.

THESE ARE DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT, UM, URGENCY VEHICLES RESPOND ACTUALLY FROM GRINDR.

THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY SLIDE YOU SEE ON THE SECOND FLOOR HERE, WE HAVE A SUPER EFFICIENT, DOUBLE LOADED CORRIDOR ON SECOND FLOOR, UM, TAKE IN, UH, ACTUAL, THEY LIKE TO ALREADY THE DORMS, THE LEFT SIDE IS PRIMARILY FIRE AND AFRICA IS BURIED IN THE CENTER AND

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THAT'S SO RENDERING LOOKING, UH, IN THAT AREA THAT I JUST MENTIONED, AND THAT IS THE EXERCISE PERIOD TRADING NEXT.

SO THIS IS THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH THAT CORNER OF STOCK AND CAPITOL VIEW, UM, THAT'S, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS LAY A LITTLE BIT THOSE IMAGES THAT WE SHOWED EARLIER, THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO BECOME INGRAINED VIRUS, MEN OPS ST.

GEAR IS A MUCH MORE COMMERCIAL, UM, LONG-LASTING FIBROUS MINT OR ITS PRODUCTS, THE GRAY, AND THEN USING COLORS FROM FIRE ENERGY MASKS, WHICH ARE THE BLUE AND RED TO KIND OF ACCENT THE BAYS, BUT ARE BEAUTIFUL, SMOKY PAST, BUT THEN USING NATURAL, UH, TEXAS SAND STONE COLOR TO ACCENT PORTION, BUILDING THE PRIORITY.

AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, BREAKING DOWN THE MAPS OF THE GREAT WALL OF A GEOMETRIC PATTERN, UM, JUST TO PROVIDE SOME MORE VISUAL INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC, UM, ON THE STREETS BROC THERE ON IN FRONT OF THE STUFF, THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE HIGH.

IT DOESN'T BUILD THE GLASS TO GO OUT IN PUBLIC TO SEE, AND TO THE APPARATUSES, UM, AND ALL THAT SIGNAGE WILL FACE THE CORNER.

WELL, NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS A VIEW FROM THAT ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPOT TOWARDS THE LOBBY.

THIS IS AUDIO SUBJECT THREE, THIS IS OUR PRIME FACADE.

SO ALL OF THOSE DOORS WILL BE, I WAS BUILDING GLAZING.

UM, THEN HE GOT THE GLAZING GOING INTO THE PAINT STRUCTURE AS WELL, THAT WE ARE FINDING MORE REFLECTIVE GLASS, JUST TRYING TO SEE FOR THE RESPONDERS THAT STARING IN KIND OF GUN BUTTON, BUT JUST LOOK US OUT OR WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE HIGH VISIBILITY PLACING, BUT WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING .

SO THIS IS JUST TO ALLOW USED INTO THAT TO THE APPARATUS SPACE, SPACE X PART OF THE APPEAL OF THE SIGNAGE THAT WE FACE, THE STREET PATTERN THAT WE'RE APPLYING.

SO THIS WOULD BE ON STOCK AND HEADING TOWARDS CAPITAL.

HE WAS KIND OF LEADING INTO GOODNIGHT BRANCH DEVELOPMENT.

UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXTERIOR TRAINING STAIR.

SO WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS TYPICALLY THESE TRAIN STAIRS ARE VERY HEAVY CMU, JUST REAL MASSES.

UH, WE WANTED TO BREAK THAT UP AND MAKE IT SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE APPEALING TO THE PUBLIC ON SUCH AS ACCESS PRODUCT AND DISPLAY.

AND IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A STEEL STROKE STEEL SKELETON, WHICH HAS BEEN FLAGGED AND GALVANIZED STEEL BRAIDING.

UM, SO IT'S STILL WHAT'S DAMPENING ABUSE LADDERS THROWN UP AGAINST IT.

UH, JUST GETS THE STRUCTURAL LITTLE BIT OF LIGHTNESS SAYS NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE BACKYARD LANDSCAPE.

WE'LL HAVE SOME DIFFICULT RENDERINGS SHOWING HOW THIS WILL BE USED, BUT YOU JUST SEE HOW THE, UM, THAT, UH, PATIO OF TIES AND THE KITCHEN AND DINING AREA, THEY ARE REALLY ALL WORKS TOGETHER TO CREATE A REALLY NICE SPACE PRIOR TO THE PASSENGERS MONITORS, WHERE THEY CAN WORK OUT ON THE GYM, LEADS OUT THERE TO WORKOUT AND HE CAN TRAIN, THEY CAN COOK, UH, SPIRITUALLY, UH, REALLY THREE MORE SUPPORT SLOT, UM, OR ASSETS THAT ARE BE CAREFUL PORTION.

AND THEN WE'LL SIT AND TAKE CARE OF QUIT SOME LANDSCAPE DISCUSSION.

YEP.

SO, UM, LET'S SEE.

SO THIS PARTICULAR FIRE STATION, UH, ENDED UP WITH HAVE PRETTY GENEROUS BACKYARD IF YOU WILL.

AND SO THERE'S A GOOD BIT OF PROGRAM THAT WAS ALLOWED ON THE SITE.

UM, WE HAVE A WORKOUT AREA, UM, THAT WE HAVE THE SHAPE SALES STRUCTURE SYNDICATED THERE, BLUE, UM, TO GIVE USEFULNESS TO.

SO IT'S ALL, ALL NEW TRACY.

UM, THERE'S AN OUTDOOR DINING AREA ADJACENT TO THAT BARBECUE AREA THAT, UH, SURGERY, AND THERE IS AN AREA, UH, SORT OF BOTTOM LEFT CORNER FOR TRADING OR FOR THAT SPACE YOU'RE DEALING WITH YOU.

UH, AND THEN, UH, THERE IS A, AN ENCLOSED, UH, PARKING AREA FOR, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS THAT HAS A GATE AT THE TOP PARTNER.

UH, WE HAVE A PRETTY GENEROUS PLANTED AREA OF BUFFER AROUND THAT.

AND THEN FOR THE FRONT YARD, IF YOU WILL, UH, THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE, UH, WE HAVE A MIX OF DATA CANTEENS, UH, THERE TO BE REALLY EXCELLENT.

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UH, AND YEAH.

UM, AND THEN THIS IS SORT OF ANOTHER GATHERING AREA.

THEY, THIS STATION IS BEING LOOKED AT AS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEEDED TO HAVE LARGER DREAMS, THIS SPACE WOULD ALLOW FOR SUCH THINGS TO GO SO FAR AS PATIENTS COME TOGETHER.

THE LAST ONE I BELIEVE WAS THE DINING AREA.

YES THAT'S.

I'LL JUST TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THE SUSTAINABILITY BILL, THE ASPECTS.

SO OUR MANDATE IS TO, UM, TO ACHIEVE BOTH LEAD SILVER AND AGB THREE-STAR.

UM, SO CAN'T REALLY SEE HERE, BUT OUR FIRST CHUNK OF THE LEAD MATRIX UP THERE IS RELATED TO SITE.

UM, AND WE ESSENTIALLY TO GET THE WHOLE THING TO THE 16 POINTS, JUST BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION, LACK OF LACK OF DENSITY, LACK OF ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND JUST LITERALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO TO ACHIEVE TWO OF THOSE POINTS, WHICH IS MUCH LESS THAN WE'D BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN THAT SECTION FOR EVERY OTHER STATION.

UM, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY, UH, WE HAVE 50 POINTS FOR LATE SILVER.

WE HAVE 48 POINTS THAT WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING, AND WE HAVE 10 MORE THAT ARE HIGH BABIES, WHICH WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.

SO CONFIDENT WILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THESE TWO MORE OF THOSE.

AND THEN WITH AGB, WE'RE ALREADY CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S 40 POINTS THAT WE NEED TO GET THE THREE-STAR, WE'RE ALREADY HAVE 40 POINTS THAT ARE, UM, SAFELY IN THE ESCOBAR TAKEN WITH DEL VALLEY.

UM, I CAN'T MESS IT UP AS THE OTHER STATION WE TRIED OR IF THAT'D BE INJECTED AND EGD ON, WE ACTUALLY GOT FOUR STARS OF YOUR OWN, TRYING TO GET A GRADE.

SO PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL, UH, EASILY ABLE TO GET THE AGV THREE-STAR HERE AS WELL.

AS FAR AS ANY IT'S LIKE THAT IT'S YES.

UM, YEAH.

UM, QUESTIONS, UM, HE, THE SPOT, SOMEONE THAT YOU ABLE TO STILL MAKE IT TO PRECISE, THAT'S NOT A SMALL FEAT GIVEN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.

AND WE SAW THAT YOU'RE DOING BOTH THE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT AND THE GREEN CROSS KEEPING.

UM, SINCE THOSE ARE BOTH STILL HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, INDOOR CONDITIONS, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY TO GETTING A GREENFIELD CERTIFICATION.

DON'T RECALL.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO DISCUSS WITH, WE'D GONE THROUGH WITH HER, UH, THE CONSULTANT WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.

UM, SHE'S BROKEN IT DOWN FOR US.

I CAN WEAVE ALL OF THAT.

UM, WELL I THINK YOU ALREADY ARE MENTALITY.

SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT KIND OF USING CHEMICAL FREE AND PARTICIPATION FREE IF YOU'RE DOING THE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT AND THE IT'S LIKE , SO IT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT.

WE GET A STICKER NUMBER WITH NO.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH.

HOW DO I HEAR SOMETHING? I DON'T RECALL SEEING ON SOME OF THE OTHER POWER STATIONS AND ON DID THAT, DOES THAT HAPPEN? AND IT WAS OUR STATION, SO STRENGTHS.

SO WE PROVIDED AT THE FIRST TWO STATIONS AT DEL VALLEY EXTRACT AS PUNCH RATE.

UM, BOTH OF THOSE WERE 6,000 COUNT ON PROGRAM TANKS.

YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO DO IT AT WORK FROM THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE OF SITE CONSTRAINTS.

AND HERE WE'LL BE PROVIDING A 10,000 POUNDS BANK ESSENTIALLY.

UM, THERE'LL BE ABLE TO BE USED PRIMARILY BY FIRE AND GAS, BUT ALSO ANY OTHER CITY VEHICLES CAN HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

UM, AND IT'S NOT GETTING ITEMS SECURE DATA RIGHT.

OF THINGS.

SO THEY CAN JUST PULL IT TO THE APPARATUS BAY AND, UM, AND FILL UP, UM, AS FAR AS COLOR CREAMS RATES, IT'S ALL ABOVE GROUND.

SO WE DON'T NEED EIGHT SORT OF BEARING ATTAINED SUB GRADE, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF CLEARANCES.

WE HAVE TO KEEP AROUND 18 INCHES.

UM, AND THERE'S A PATH WITH THIS RIGHT HERE, A FEW BREAK.

WE HAVE TWO GOLD, THAT'S ABOUT FIVE FOOT RADIUS WHERE WE CAN HAVE KIND OF, WOW.

IS THERE ANYTHING, UM, IN THAT PAPER, UM, PAPER AREA, BUT THAT'S A PAIN

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SO THAT'S NOT SHOWN IN THE RENDERINGS, BUT WE DO HAVE THIS SIMILAR, UM, RE FIBER CEMENT WORK AND PROVIDING THE BUILDING IN THAT.

WE'LL BE GLAD IN THIS, UM, ANCHOR ON THREESOMES.

SO THE ONLY ASIDE FEED THE BACKSIDE SPACING, LIKE, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CHARGING STATIONS FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS VEHICLES.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN PROVIDING A TOOL.

EVIE CHARGING STATION INVOLVE THE STATION SO FAR THAT GOES WITHIN THE SECURE PARKING.

UM, AND THAT'S A, IT'S AN EASY THING PRESSED AGAINST.

SO WE JUST DO THAT.

I ALSO NEGLECTED TO MENTION THAT WE ARE ALSO GETTING POTABLE TANKS ON THIS PROJECT.

SO THAT'S HELPING US MAKE UP SOME VET DEFICIT THAT PEOPLE IN OUR, UM, OUR SITE SECTION MATRIX, UH, I HAVE QUESTIONS, WELL, FIRST I THINK THE MASS THING, AND THAT'S, REALLY THE TA PATH AND, AND THE TRAINING, UM, THE OF THE SENSE THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO OPTIONS.

ONE IS A, UH, STEP SANSOM MOTIVATOR.

UM, AND IF THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE A BURNISHING BLOCK, WHICH IS SIMILAR, BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS.

THAT WAS MY PITCH TO, BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE HAS GOT THIS REALLY NICE TEXTURE SOUNDS GOOD.

THE IDEA IS THAT ON, ON THE APPARATUS PHASE, THERE REALLY WON'T BE TOO MUCH OF LIKE A HUMAN WALKING RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUILDING OF PEAK, MOSTLY VEHICLES.

BUT ON THAT TWO-STORY STRUCTURE, THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE ENTERING AND MAKING OUT.

SO THE PROTECTORS WILL FEEL GREAT TO FIRST BLOCK TO BE THERE LEVEL.

AWESOME.

UM, AND THEN THE OUTDOOR AREA, I NOTICED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE FACE AND VOICE, AND YOU'VE GOT SOME OLD TREES, UM, PLANTING TREES.

SO JUST WANDERING AND MAKING SURE THAT THE SPECIES DIVERSITY START TO SEND OUT THAT IT'S SOMETHING GOOD DAY ONE.

WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY GOOD.

A LITTLE SPACE, OR MAYBE NOT THE POINT OF SHARING.

IT'S STRICTLY, JUST LIKE I SAID, THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER OF CHEESE THERE.

UM, I'LL SHARE.

I'D SAY IT'S KIND OF A MULTI-TIERED APPROACH BECAUSE, UM, DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE DAY, THE BUILDING, THE OVERHEAD PROVIDES STRUCTURE AND THEN AS PRETTY AS THE SUN GETS LOWER AND OFF THE TREES, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT MASSIVE AMOUNT OF THEM, THAT'S REASONABLE CAST, LONG SHADOWS.

SO DEPENDING ON TIME OF YEAR, THERE MAY BE AN HOUR OR TWO IN THERE WHERE IT'S LIKE MORE COMFORTABLE, BUT THERE'S ALSO WIDE VARIETY OF SEATING LOCATIONS.

SO YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEPLACE TO SAY IT LIKE IT'S STILL MIGHT HAVE TO NOT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE THAT AND WHAT TIME OF DAY THEY SLEEP IN THE MORNING, IT'S GOING TO BE JADED.

ANYTHING ELSE? THE COMMISSION IT'S JUST, THANKS GUYS.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ENTRANCES FROM THIS.

ARE THEY UNDER TWO ENTRANCES COMING IN OR IS THIS ONE, THIS ONE ON THE, I GUESS ON THE LEFT SIDE, UPPER LEFT, THE MORE SIDE, LIKE A SECONDARY ENTRANCE.

JUST NOT, NOT FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO I FEEL BAD.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND GO TO THE PORT.

MAYBE I WAS LOOKING AT THE, I GUESS THE LANDSCAPE SITE PLAN.

THEY WOULD GO UP TO THE, UH, DOWN A COUPLE OF THEM PULL THAT ONE.

SO, UH, RIGHT-HAND SIDE THERE THAT'S THE LOBBY.

THAT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC ENTRANCE.

SO THE FIRE AND EMS RESPONDERS HAVE, UM, TWO MAIN ENTRANCES INTO THE BUILDING.

ONE WOULD BE THE DOUBLE DOORS ONTO THE PATIO THAT WILL PROBABLY BASED ON THE WAY THEY'RE USING THE EXISTING STATIONS.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THEY'LL ACTUALLY USE.

AND THERE'S ALSO INTEREST THOUGH.

THERE MIGHT BE TRADING STAIRWAYS CAN GO EITHER INTO THE AMARANTH SPACE, INTO THE STATION.

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WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ABOUT WHERE THE PFIZER FACILITY DESIRE TO SAVE A LITTLE, THE SADNESS? WAS THE THEM CORRECT? BUT WHAT ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY? UM, THAT GOODNIGHT RANCH DOES SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLY WITH THE CITY DESIGN.

AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU WANT A SECOND.

DON'T WANT TO BE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO EVALUATE, I THINK, RECOMMENDATIONS.

LET'S SAY I ASKED YOU THAT YESTERDAY, ANYTHING VERY MUCH.

SO I

[1.b. Discussion and possible action to evaluate and make recommendations regarding whether the Dougherty Arts Center, located 200 S Lamar Blvd., complies with the City Design and Sustainability Standards, for the City of Austin. Applicant(s): Kevin Johnson]

WHAT ABOUT THE DIRTY ART SECTOR, BUT PAINTED ON 200, 300, UH, SOMEONE COME OUT A LITTLE BIT COMPLIES WITH THE CITY WAS I HAD SUSTAINABILITY SADNESS OF CITY OF AUSTIN.

I LINE EVERYBODY.

CAN YOU SEE ME? YES, WE CAN SEE AND HEAR YOU ALL RIGHT.

GOOD TO SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES, BUT YOU'RE FAR AWAY ON MY SCREEN.

UM, AND SEE, I'M JOINED BY ROBERT BURNS TODAY.

GUN, ARE YOU ABLE TO MOVE HIM OVER AS WELL? WHO WAS THAT? ROBERT BURNS.

OH YEAH.

AND THEN HE'LL JUST NEED TO MANUALLY TURN OFF VIDEO AND AUDIO.

PERFECT.

THERE HE IS.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND KICK THINGS OFF BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO ROBERT, BUT, UM, GOOD EVENING TO THE COMMISSION ON KEVIN JOHNSON.

I WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AS A PROJECT MANAGEMENT SUPERVISOR.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR A WHILE, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN US PRESENT THIS PROJECT ONCE OR MAYBE TWICE.

UM, OUR DEPARTMENT HAS LONG BEEN SEEKING A REPLACEMENT FACILITY FOR THE DOOR TO THE ART CENTER, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE IN THIS POSITION TO MOVE EVER CLOSER, UM, FORWARD TO MAKING THIS FACILITY A REALITY.

WE'VE JUST, UM, APPROACHED THE END OF THE DD PHASE, AWAITING OUR NEXT ROUND OF PRICING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SHARING THIS IMAGERY WITH YOU.

UH, SO IF WE JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL PROVIDE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT HERE TO GET US STARTED.

KEVIN, I BELIEVE YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN OR DID YOU WANT ME TO HOST YOUR, YOUR SPOTS? UH, EITHER WAY I'VE GOT IT PULLED UP TOO.

I WILL SHARE IF THAT'S EASIER.

SO AGAIN, THIS MIGHT BE A, WHOOPS, THIS MIGHT BE A REFRESHER FOR SOME OF YOU WHO HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE, BUT THE CURRENT DOHERTY ARTS CENTER IS LOCATED IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE AT THE PURPLE ASTERISK CORNER OF BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AND DAWSON.

UH, WE CONDUCTED A PLANNING PROCESS THAT CONCLUDED IN 2019, AND WE WENT TO COUNCIL SEEKING APPROVAL TO MOVE IT TO THE LOCATION OF THE YELLOW ASTERISK AT THE BUTLER SHORES PARK, THE SIDE OF THESE TWO SOFTBALL FIELDS THAT ARE ORIENTED TO THE NORTHEAST, UM, ON THIS SLIDE AND RECEIVED COUNCIL APPROVAL TO DO THAT, UM, THAT APPROVAL CAME WITH SOME CONDITIONS THAT WE LOOK AT MULTIPLE SCENARIOS FOR REDEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE.

SO WE THEN WENT INTO A PRELIMINARY DESIGN PROCESS, UM, LOOKING AT THESE MULTIPLE SCENARIOS.

WE BROUGHT THOSE BACK TO THE DESIGN COMMISSION, UH, EARLY IN 2021.

SO THIS LOOKS FAMILIAR.

THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE LAST VISITING WITH YOU ALL.

UM, AND WE ENDED UP, UM, ON THIS NEXT SLIDE TAKING THIS SCHEME, WHICH WAS THE PREFERENCE, UM, BOTH OF THE DESIGN COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL BEFORE SEEKING THEIR APPROVAL TO MOVE FULLY INTO, UH, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WITH THE SCHEME YOU'RE SEEING HERE ON THE SCREEN.

SO, UM, THE NEW DOOR TO YARD CENTER, BUILDING MASSING SITTING RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE, IT'S DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE PARD MAIN OFFICE.

I'M SORRY, THE LABELS ARE TURNED OFF ON THIS IMAGE, BUT RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS ON THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN, LAMAR BOULEVARD RUNNING ALONG THE RIGHT SIDE, AND TWO ME ROAD ON THE SOUTH.

UM, AND AGAIN, OUR SITE ENCOMPASSES THE AREA, JUST THAT THOSE TWO SOFTBALL FIELDS IT'S TUCKED DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE ZACK THEATER.

UM, AND THAT LEASE BOUNDARY IS SHOWN BY THIS BLUE DASHED LINE, UM, JUST TO THE

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EAST OF OUR SITE.

SO SOME OF THE INTENTIONS BEHIND THIS DESIGN SCHEME WERE TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF OPEN PARK SPACE ON THE SITE AND TO CREATE WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AN ARTS PLAZA CONNECTING THE ZACK THEATER AND THE NEW DOOR, THE ARTS CENTER ALONG THIS AXIS HERE, UH, THIS SCHEME ALSO PRIORITIZES VEHICULAR ENTRANCE FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

AND THERE IS ACTUALLY, UM, ACCESS TO AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE, WHICH SITS UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, UM, ACCESS ONLY FROM RIVERSIDE, THERE'S A DROP-OFF ON, IT'S GOING TO BE ROADSIDE, UM, JUST AT SURFACE LEVEL, BUT THAT GARAGE ACCESS IS STRICTLY FROM RIVERSIDE.

UM, AND OUR TEAM HAS WORKED WITH A TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP A TRAFFIC DEMAND MANAGEMENT STUDY TO RIGHT-SIZE THIS PARKING BASED ON ALL OF THE SURROUNDING, UM, USES IN THE DISTRICT.

AND SO CURRENTLY OUR PARKING GARAGE IS SITTING AT TWO LEVELS, TOTALLING ABOUT 130 SPACES, AND I'LL QUICKLY HIT THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES THERE, A BRIEF DISTILLATION OF OUR MOST RECENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

UH, THIS TOOK PLACE EARLIER IN THAT DESIGN PHASE THAT I SPOKE HAVE HELD SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS AND 10 SMALL GROUP MEETINGS THAT TARGETED SPECIFIC USER GROUPS OF THE DECK.

UM, I DON'T WANT TO HIT EVERY ASPECT OF THE SLIDE, BUT YOU'LL SEE SOME COMMON THEMES AND DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS HERE, INCLUDING THE SENTIMENT THAT THE NEW DECK BUILDING SHOULD BE THE BACKDROP TO THE ARTWORK.

EXCUSE ME, JUST ONE SEC.

I THINK THAT'S A CONCEPT THAT YOU'LL SEE AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE DESIGN IMAGERY OF THIS PRESENTATION.

AND AS I JUMPED TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A SENSE THAT, UH, THAT THERE'S A DESIRE FOR A SENSE OF ARRIVAL DISCOVERY AND INSPIRATION AT THE NEW CENTER, BUT THAT THE ARCHITECTURE DID NOT NEED TO BE LOUD, UM, RATHER TO OPEN UP AND INTEGRATE TO THE PARK SITE.

SO AGAIN, AS I HAND THINGS OFF TO ROBERT, HE'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

UM, THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS REALLY DROVE THE CREATION OF THIS MISSION STATEMENT FOR OUR DESIGN TEAM.

DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, EXCUSE ME, JUST ONE SECOND.

THE THEATERS AND GALLERY.

I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE DECK ENDEAVORS TO BE AUSTIN'S CULTURAL LIVING ROOM AND A HUB OF CREATIVITY.

UM, I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT HERE THAT IT SEEMS TO BE A SUSTAINABLE MODEL OF PARKS FACILITIES AND, UH, IN, UH, AUSTIN'S PARK NETWORK, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS PURSUING BOTH LEAD CERTIFICATION.

WE'RE ON TRACK FOR GOLD CERTIFICATION.

WE'RE ALSO PURSUING A WELL CERTIFICATION.

AND IF SUCCESSFUL, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST HARD FACILITY TO HAVE THAT DESIGNATION AND I'LL QUICKLY HIT SOME OF THE SITE CONSTRAINTS, UH, OF WHICH THERE ARE MANY, I THINK THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES PRETTY WELL.

WHAT WE WERE GRAPPLING WITH IN THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN PHASE.

UM, THE SITE'S PRETTY HEMMED IN BY UTILITY EASEMENTS.

UM, THE ZACH SCOTT LEASE BOUNDARY AGAIN IN THAT BLUE DASH LINE AND SOME PRETTY IMPRESSIVE HERITAGE TREES ON SITE.

SO YOU SEE THE BUILDING MASSING REALLY THREADING THE NEEDLE BETWEEN THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE SITE.

UM, WE FEEL THAT THE BUILDING PLACEMENT REALLY CAPITALIZES ON IT WAS ESTABLISHED OAKS AND COTTONWOOD TREES CREATING SOME VERY WELCOMING COURTYARD IN PLAZA SPACES.

SO WITH THAT, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO ROBERT.

I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN A LITTLE BIT MORE FULLY HERE.

THANK YOU, KEVIN, AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

SO, UH, AS KEVIN POINTED OUT, WE'VE CITED THE BUILDING, UH, AS YOU SEE IN THE GRAY BLOCK, UH, WITHIN THE SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A LARGE PARK AREA THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED, UM, TO THE EAST OF OUR BUILDING, UH, WITH THE MAIN ENTRY POINT AND DROP OFF, UH, FOR THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH OFF RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

UM, AND, UH, AGAIN, A, A DROP-OFF POINT, UH, FOR THE YOUTH PROGRAMS PRIMARILY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OFF OF TEENY ROAD, UH, CONNECTIVITY TO THE EXTERIOR WAS REALLY IMPORTANT WITH THIS PROJECT AS IS MAINTAINING AND TAKING FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE HERITAGE TREES THAT, UH, POPULATE THIS SITE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE SORORITY ARTS CENTER IS COMPOSED OF PRIMARILY FIVE LARGE PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS.

UH, THERE'S THE YOUTH PROGRAM OR THE SCHOOL, THERE'S THE STUDIOS, THERE'S

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UM, THERE'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION OF IT AND THERE'S PUBLIC PORTION OF IT.

SO IN DEVELOPING THIS PROJECT, THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT, UM, EXIST CURRENTLY AT THE NEW DECK THAT WILL BE IMPROVED WITH THIS NEW PROJECT.

UH, THE SCHOOL DROP OFF AND PICKUP WILL BE GREATLY IMPROVED, UH, WITH ACCESS OFF OF TINNY ROAD.

UH, THE NEW FACILITY WILL HAVE A TRUE PERCENT LIAM THEATER, WHICH HAD CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE, AND, UM, ACCESSIBILITY, THIS, THIS FACILITY WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

UM, THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT ARE EXPANDING AND IMPROVING AT THE DECK.

SO THE OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND, WHICH IS DIRECTLY OFF OF THE, UM, YOUTH PROGRAM WILL BE A NEW SECURED, UM, OUTDOOR PLAY AREA WITH NATURE PLAY.

UM, THERE WILL BE A REHEARSAL SPACE WITHIN THIS FACILITY, WHICH THE DECK CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE.

THIS IS ALSO COULD BE A MULTI-PURPOSE SPACE THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND SO FORTH, UM, AND, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR DISPLAYS OF ART THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY AND THE GROUNDS.

UH, WHAT'S NEW AT THE DECK WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUTDOOR LEARNING SPACES WITH ITS ADJACENCY TO THE NEW PARK.

UM, THIS NEW FACILITY WILL HAVE ARTISTS AND RESIDENTS STUDIOS AS WELL AS AN ARTIST RESOURCE CENTER WITHIN THE BUILDING.

UM, IT WILL ALSO HAVE A NEW BLACK BOX THEATER, WHICH IT CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE.

AND THEN FOR PUBLIC SPACES, THERE WILL BE A ROOFTOP TERRACE, UM, AND ALSO, UH, PRIVATE AND PUBLIC COURTYARDS THAT ARE PROGRAMMABLE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO AGAIN, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRAM, SO ORGANIZATIONALLY, THIS IS, UH, HOW THE PROGRAM LAYS OUT, UH, WITHIN THE PLANS.

AND WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL IN A MINUTE, UH, BUT SHE CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE FIVE PROGRAM ELEMENTS ON THE GROUND FLOOR, THERE IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE WING TO THE NORTH, UM, IN THE PINK AREA, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THAT IN THE GREEN AREA IS THE, UH, YOUTH PROGRAM, UH, TO THE WEST OF THAT.

THERE'S A LARGE BLOCK, WHICH IS THE THEATER AND GALLERY PROGRAM ON THE SECOND FLOOR LEVEL.

WE HAVE THE ADULT STUDIOS, UH, AND THEN, UM, UH, TO THE WEST AGAIN, ON THE SECOND FLOOR LEVEL, WE HAVE A GALLERY WHICH WILL BE DESIGNED TO SMITHSONIAN STANDARDS.

SO LOOKING AT HOW THE PLAN SITS ON THE SIDE, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN CONNECTIVITY, TO GET SURROUNDINGS TO THE NEW PARK, TO THE SOUTH DROP OFF TO THE NORTH DROP OFF, AND AS WELL AS TO THE WEST TOWARDS THE ZACH SCOTT THEATER.

SO WE HAVE ENTRY POINTS ON ALL FOUR LOCATIONS, UH, THAT, THAT ARE INTERCONNECTED BY PUBLIC SPACES.

UM, THE CENTER AREA WE'RE CALLING THE HIGH, BUT IT'S A TWO-STORY LOBBY SPACE.

THAT IS THE HUB OF ACTIVITY FOR THIS FACILITY.

AND IT ESSENTIALLY ORGANIZES ALL OF THE MASSING AROUND THIS ELEMENT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WELL, THE TOP LEVEL, WE'RE PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A ROOF TERRACE.

AGAIN, PLAN, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE OFFICE WING IN THE PINK, UH, ON THE NORTH END, UH, THESE SCHOOL, UH, YOUTH PROGRAMS ON THE SOUTH END ZONE, THE PRIMARY ENTRY WILL BE OFF OF THE SOUTH COURTYARD, UM, FROM THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND THEN, UH, YOU CAN SEE A SCHOOL LOBBY THERE THAT WILL HAVE DIRECT CONNECTION THROUGH, TO AN OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND AGAIN, WHICH IS CURED TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PURPLE BLOCK HOUSES.

THE PERCENT OF THEM THEATER, THE BLACK BOX THEATER AND THE SUPPORT SPACE IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE THEATER ACTIVITIES.

NEXT SLIDE, THE SECOND FLOOR LEVEL, UH, WE PLACED THE ADULT STUDIOS.

UH, AGAIN, THERE'S A PUBLIC SPACE THAT INTERCONNECTS ON THE SECOND FLOOR LEVEL.

THERE'S A SKY BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS TO WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE ARTISTS CONNECT SPACE.

THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE AREA, UH, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY UTILIZED BY ARTISTS AND THE PUBLIC, UH, AND THEN TO THE RIGHT SIDE, UH, IS ACCESS TO THE MAIN GALLERY SPACE.

UM, THE, UM, REHEARSAL SPACE IS, UM, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE SKYBRIDGE, UH, THAT OVERLOOKS, UM, THE TWO-STORY LOBBY SPACE AND HELPS TO ACTIVATE THAT SPACE SLIME.

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AGAIN, THIS IS A SPACE THAT CAN BE PROGRAMMED AND UTILIZED FOR A NUMBER OF FUNCTIONS, UM, AND SHOULD HAVE GREAT VIEWS, UH, TO THE BEAUTIFUL OAK TREES TO THE NORTH, AS WELL AS THE SKYLINE.

SO CONCEPTUALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW WE PUT THIS BUILDING TOGETHER, WE STARTED LOOKING AT HOW THE SITE IS SITTING CURRENTLY, UM, WITH PARDON MAINE AND WITH THESE FABULOUS OAK TREES THAT SIT ON THE SITE.

SO IN ESSENCE, THERE IS AN UNDERSTORY, UH, WHICH IS PEDESTRIAN LEVEL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL PART BUILDING IS A SINGLE STORY BUILDING, UH, THAT KIND OF FITS WITHIN THIS ZONE, THE UPPER ZONE, WE'RE CALLING THE CANOPY ZONE SECOND FLOOR LEVEL.

THIS IS UP IN THE TREES ESSENTIALLY.

AND THEN ABOVE THAT, OF COURSE IS THE SKY ZONE.

SO LOOKING AT HOW THE BUILDING MASSES TOGETHER, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE, UH, UNDER STORIES ZONE, WHICH HOUSES, SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, AND THE MAIN ENTRIES TO THE BUILDING, THE ORIGINAL PART MAIN SETS IN THIS ZONE, THE, UH, CANOPY AREA.

SO PART MAIN HAS A TWO-STORY ADDITION THAT BEGINS TO HAVE A TALLER MASS TO IT.

AND THEN OF COURSE OUR BUILDING, THE ADULT STUDIOS, THE GALLERY, AND THE THEATERS EXTEND INTO THIS MASS.

AND FINALLY THE ROOF TERRACE IS, UM, MORE AKIN TO THE SKY.

AND AGAIN, VIEWS, UH, BEYOND THE TREES TO DOWNTOWN TYING ALL THAT TOGETHER.

UH, WE HAVE A RIBBON ELEMENT WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN A FEW OTHER RENDERINGS, UM, THIS, UH, PERSPECTIVE, YOU GIVES YOU A SENSE OF HOW THE BUILDING SITS IN THE SIDE AND SITS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CITY.

AND YOU SEE THAT ZACH SCOTT SITS TO THE WEST AND PART MAIN SETTINGS TO THE NORTH OR TO THE EAST, AND I'LL WALK THROUGH SOME EXTERIOR PERSPECTIVE VIEWS, AND WE'LL KIND OF UNPACK EACH ONE OF THESE.

SO THIS IS THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE COMING FROM THE NORTH, THE DROP-OFF AREA, COMING INTO THIS COURTYARD WITH THESE FABULOUS OF TREES, UM, THAT MAYBE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO WITHIN HERE, THERE'S SOME THEMES THAT ARE INCURRED THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE, UH, IDEA, AND THAT IS ART IS EVERYWHERE.

UH, THERE ARE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FOR OUTDOOR SCULPTURE AND ART, UM, SITTING, UH, IN THE FOREFRONT IN THIS BEAUTIFUL, UH, COURTYARD AREA, UH, THE WAY THE BUILDING IS SET UP, THE MAIN, UH, EAST-WEST ACCESS OF THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE IS GLAZED ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE INTENTION.

THERE AGAIN IS OPPORTUNITY FOR ART TO BE DISPLAYED IN THERE.

THAT'S NOT ONLY VISIBLE, VISIBLE FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO FROM OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM BASE OF THE BUILDING BEING BRICK OF THE SAME CHARACTER THAT IS CURRENTLY USED, UH, ON PARDON MAIN AND IS A BIT OF A NOD TO, UH, THE AND BUTLER BRICK BRICK PLANT THAT USED TO INHABIT THIS SITE.

AND THEN THE UPPER LEVEL, AGAIN, THINKING OF THE CANOPY AND THINKING OF SOMETHING THAT'S CRAFTED ON THE SITE, WE HAVE A METAL PERFORATED SCREEN, UH, THAT WRAPS A PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

THAT AGAIN, HELPS TIE IT TOGETHER, RELATES TO A MORE LEAFY, UH, ENVIRONMENT AND ALSO HELPS CONTROL SOLAR GAIN ON THE BUILDING.

THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE WEST PARK, LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE BUILDING.

AGAIN, WE HAVE AN ENTRY POINT ON THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND, UH, I HAD TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO AGAIN, UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE A NUMBER ONE, THAT'S THE STUDIO CONNECTS BAY.

SO AGAIN, AN ARTIST HANGOUT SPACE THAT LOOKS OUT OVER THE PARK AND CONNECTS BACK TO THE PARK, UM, YOU KNOW, GOT OPPORTUNITIES AGAIN FOR ART EVERYWHERE.

WHAT'S SHOWN THERE AT NUMBER THREE IS A DIAGRAM.

UH, WE THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A PIECE OF OUTDOOR SCULPTURE, UH, THAT COULD HAPPEN THERE.

UM, THE SITE ALSO HAS A NUMBER OF, UM, RAIN GARDENS, UH, AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM YOU SEE IN THE FOREGROUND.

UH, AGAIN, IT'S AN ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION AND CONNECTION TO NATURE ON THIS SITE.

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UM, AND THE WAY I THINK THAT THE, THE AXES THAT BROKE THROUGH THE BUILDING KIND OF DRAW PEOPLE IN, UM, WILL BE REALLY EXCITING.

THIS IS THE SOUTH ENTRY POINT.

UM, AGAIN, SIMILAR CHARACTER.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS, UH, AGAIN, A RAIN GARDEN IN THE FOREFRONT, UH, BEYOND THAT IS THE SOUTH COURTYARD, WHICH AGAIN, CAN BE A PROGRAM SPACE FOR MANY PURPOSES AND ALSO PROVIDES AND FREE WAY TO THE YOUTH PROGRAMS. UH, THE SCREEN ELEMENT CARRIES ACROSS HERE, MAYBE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE'LL KIND OF INTO A FEW OF THESE ELEMENTS.

UM, SO AS I SAID, THE SCHOOL DROP OFF HAPPENS ON THIS SIDE, UH, UP ON WHERE NUMBER TWO IS, UH, THAT IT'S OUR CERAMIC STUDIO.

SO WE WILL HAVE A KILLING YARD THAT SITS UP ON THAT UPPER DECK.

THAT'S SCREENED.

UH, AGAIN, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SEE ART BEING CREATED FROM THE EXTERIOR, UM, AND, UH, ITEM SEVEN, YOU SEE, THERE IS, UM, WHERE THE, UH, ROOF TERRORISTS WOULD BEGIN UP ON THAT UPPER LEVEL, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR INTEGRATED SIGNAGE IN THE BUILDING, UH, WHETHER IT'S, UH, ON THIS, UH, CONCRETE, LOW CONCRETE SCREEN SCREEN WALL, UM, OR, UH, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN HERE, AGAIN, CONNECTION TO OUTDOOR SPACES WITH COURTYARDS, UH, REALLY TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON ITS PLACEMENT, UH, IN THE PARK AND IN THE CITY, AND FINALLY A VIEW FROM THE WEST.

SO THIS IS, UM, AGAIN, CONNECTION BACK TOWARDS THE ZACH SCOTT THEATER, UM, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO AGAIN, HERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR POSTERS AND BANNERS, UM, AND, UH, NUMBER ONE, UM, POTENTIAL FOR A MURAL OR OTHER ART ELEMENTS ON THE BUILDING.

WE'VE GOT A LARGE BLOCK THAT IS THE THEATER BLOCK, UH, WHICH WILL NOT HAVE WINDOWS INHERENTLY.

SO THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, ART HAPPENING THERE.

UM, ITEM FOUR, WE'VE GOT THE GALLERY ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

SO AT THE WEST END OF THE GALLERY, WE HAVE AN OUTDOOR SCULPTURE GALLERY, UH, THAT, UH, IS BEHIND THAT SCREEN ELEMENT THAT WILL BE VISIBLE, UH, FROM VISITORS AT THIS LOCATION.

UH, AND AGAIN, THE, OF ART EVERYWHERE.

SO AN OPPORTUNITIES FOR HEART AND THE GROUNDS EVERYWHERE YOU WALK AROUND THIS BUILDING, YOU EXPERIENCE ART.

THIS IS A VIEW FROM INSIDE THE HIVE, WHICH IS THE TWO STORY LOBBY SPACE.

SO MAYBE GO TO THE NEXT TIME.

SO IT IS INTENDED TO BE A VERY ACTIVE SOCIAL SPACE, AGAIN, THE CULTURAL LIVING ROOM OF AUSTIN.

UM, WE'RE CONTEMPLATING THAT THERE WILL BE A ACTIVE MAKER-SPACE WITHIN THIS LOBBY.

UM, CHILDREN OR ADULTS CAN COME IN HERE AND MAKE ART IN THE LOBBY.

UM, WE'VE GOT A THEATER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DRAMA INVOLVED IN JUST GOING TO THE THEATER AND WE WANT TO REALLY CELEBRATE THAT WITHIN THE LOBBY.

UH, THE, UH, AREA NOTED AS A FIVE UP ABOVE IS THIS REHEARSAL SPACE.

AGAIN, THE INTENTION THERE IS IT'S GOT SOME LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY TO WHERE YOU CAN SEE ACTIVITY HAPPENING THERE, UM, BUT NOT COMPLETELY VISIBLE.

SO AGAIN, IT'S ACTIVE BY ACTIVATING THE, UM, THE LOBBY AREA.

UH, ITEM SEVEN IS THE SKYBRIDGE OF THE CUTS ACROSS THERE.

UH, AND AGAIN, OPPORTUNITY FOR ARTS, UH, EVERYWHERE WITHIN THIS FACILITY, UH, AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR DONOR RECOGNITION, UM, EITHER, YOU KNOW, ON THE WALL TO THE LEFT.

NOW, DID IT THREE OR PERHAPS, UM, AT THE THEATER ENTRY ITSELF, THIS IS A VIEW DOWN THE EAST WEST AXIS OF THE BUILDING.

SO A LOT OF NORTH FACING GLASS, A LOT OF GREAT VIEW TOWARDS THE NORTH COURTYARD AND CONNECTION TO THE OUTDOOR SPACES AND BEYOND, UH, THAT'S THAT GALLERY SPACE THAT I WAS REFERRING TO THAT IS NOT ONLY VISIBLE FROM INSIDE, BUT OUTSIDE ON THE NORTH COURTYARD.

SO, UH, PEOPLE COMING UP TO THE BUILDING HAVE A VIEW IN WHETHER THEY COME IN OR NOT, THEY'RE EXPERIENCING ART.

UM, THEN THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF A COMMON THEME, ART EVERYWHERE.

UM, INDOOR OUTDOOR CONNECTION IS VERY IMPORTANT AND A CRAFTED SENSE TO THIS BUILDING.

IT ISN'T A BUILDING FOR THE

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ARTS.

UM, SO ELEMENTS WITHIN HERE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH TO HAVE A HANDCRAFTED FEEL TO THEM, UH, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S FABRICATED OFF THE SHELF.

IT'S FINE.

I THINK WITH THAT, WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR A BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION.

UM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? UH, YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE EQUIVALENT COMPLIANCE ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE AND THEN HOW Y'ALL ADDRESS THOSE AND, YOU KNOW, A EQUALLY EFFECTIVE WAY, A DIFFERENT WAY, AND KIND OF WITHIN THAT, YOU KNOW, A DISCUSSION OF A PEDESTRIAN FOR YOU AND, OR BICYCLE SOMEONE THAT MAYBE IS RIGHT THE BUS ON LAMAR, KIND OF WHAT IS THERE, WHAT KIND OF PATH OPTIONS DO THEY HAVE THE BUILDING HAVE A SET APPROACH? SURE.

SO OBVIOUSLY THIS SITE HAS GOT SOME CHALLENGES TO IT IN TERMS OF, UM, COMPLYING WITH, UM, SUB CHAPTER YOUR REQUIREMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW THIS LAYS OUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE CONCEIVING THAT THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE TO THE FACILITY IS OFF THE NORTH OFF OF RIVERSIDE.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE CONSTRAINED BY THE UTILITIES AND BY THE HERITAGE TREES, WE DO WANT THIS FACILITY TO HAVE AS MUCH PEDESTRIAN VISIBILITY IN AND OUT AS POSSIBLE.

UH, WHICH AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR THESE BEAUTIFUL COURTYARDS WITH TREES AND, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH GLAZING AS POSSIBLE, PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, TO HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, ACTIVATE THE SPACE AND ENHANCE THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE TO THE SOUTH, THE SOUTH COURTYARD, UH, AGAIN CAN BE A VERY ACTIVE ZONE, UM, VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

UM, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT OCCUR WITH THAT, UH, AS WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, ACCESS FROM LAMAR.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE, THERE WILL BE ENHANCED SIDEWALKS, UM, THAT COME DOWN TO ME ROAD AND ALLOW OPPORTUNITY FOR ENTRANCE FROM THE SOUTH.

UH, WE HAVE ENTRANCE FROM THE WEST, UH, CUTTING THROUGH ZACH SCOTT, OBVIOUSLY FROM THE NORTH, UM, AND ALSO FROM THE WEST, UH, PEOPLE UTILIZING THE TRAIL SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN EASY ACCESS INTO THE FACILITY.

WE HAVE PROVIDED, UM, UH, BICYCLE LOCKERS AND SHOWERS, UH, WITHIN THE FACILITY.

AND THESE ARE PRIMARILY FOR EMPLOYEES, UM, AND THERE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY, UH, BICYCLE PARKING AND AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING FOR VISITORS SEEMS LIKE RIVERSIDE DRIVE WOULD BE KIND OF THE OBVIOUS, YOU KNOW, ENTRANCE FOR ANYBODY RIDING THE BUS OR BICYCLE.

AND I'M WONDERING ABOUT EXISTING SIDEWALKS THAT MIGHT BE, THERE ARE FIVE PATH, OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING TO MODIFY OR ENHANCE THAT EXPERIENCE WHILE WE'RE SIDE DROUGHT EFFICIENT COME IN.

I THINK THE FOCUS OF OUR IMPROVEMENTS, ESPECIALLY ON THAT SIDE OF THE SITE IS RELATED TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.

BUT I WILL SAY JUST OFF THE CORNER OF THIS SCREEN WHERE THE, UH, OLD SCHLOTZKY'S IS, THERE'S A PUD DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING UP.

AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THEY ARE COMPLETING SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE TUMI FRONTAGE, AND THERE IS A CAP METRO BUS STOP RIGHT AT THAT, UM, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION.

SO THERE IS ALSO A DIRECT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO OUR SITE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE ZACK THEATER SITE.

I I'D LIKE TO CLEAN UP THOSE .

UM, SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE 20, 21, I THINK THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT YOU PRESENTED.

UM, I I'VE HEARD WITH THE LEG THAT THIS WAS THE ONE AND, UM, I APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION IT'S GONE IN, AND I THINK IT REALLY DOES THE BEST TO GIVE BACK TO THE OPEN SPACE AND CURRENT EXPERIENCE THAT, UM, AUSTINITES HAVE OF THE TRAIL IN THAT SPACE YET.

SO I THINK THAT I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT AFFECTED.

UM, AND I'M REALLY LIKE THE, THE ARCHITECTURE OF LIKE DESIGN IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL THAT ASIDE THE LAYERS, THE TEXTURES IT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK, A REALLY BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

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BUT MY QUESTION MAYBE IS RELATED TO WHAT, WELL, IT MIGHT BE GOOD AGAIN, IS THAT FROM THE NORTH AND SOUTH, IT FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE THE APPROACH IS, UH, DESIGNED AROUND, UH, SOMEONE ARRIVING BY CAR.

UM, AND THEN THE WEST FEELS LIKE SOMEONE ARRIVE IN FRONT OF THE HIKING BIKE TRAIL IN SPACE.

AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME WAY TO INTEGRATE, UM, MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN OR CYCLIST EXPERIENCE THAT'S COMING FROM THE EAST MORE TO MEET, UM, THROUGH THOSE NORTH AND SOUTH CONNECTIONS, SOME KIND OF PATHWAY.

THAT'S MORE LIKE AT THE MOMENT, IT FEELS LIKE THE DROP-OFF IS VERY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THAT SCALE, BUT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S LIKE A THREE LANE, THREE LANE ROAD RUNNING AROUND IN A CIRCLE FOR A DROP-OFF.

AND I DIDN'T DO THE STUDY ON THAT, BUT I JUST WANT WHERE IT MIGHT BE OVERSIZED OR IT MIGHT BENEFIT FROM A TITLE PROFILE.

UM, SO THAT YOU COULD MAYBE GIVE SOME MORE SPACE TO A BIT MORE OF LIKE MORE OF LIKE A PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE, UM, SOME HERBICIDE DRIVES, UH, OR HOW DOES THAT, WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOLD.

UM, AND THEN, YEAH, NO, THAT'S REALLY, REALLY TRIES TO BE ACCENTURE.

EVERYTHING'S VERY BEAUTIFUL, BUT THE GENERAL APPROACH OFTEN SOUTHFIELDS ARE SHAVED AND CAR.

AND SO IF THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO CONDENSE THAT DOWN, GET A LITTLE BIT MORE BACK TO, LIKE, I THINK SO MANY PEOPLE FULLY ACCESSING THE SITE ON FOOT OR BY BIKE, JUST BECAUSE OF ITS OVER LOCATION.

SO, UH, MARBLE CELEBRATES THE SPACES, THAT APPROACH.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

SO LET ME JUST COMMENT ONE THING ABOUT THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.

UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK AROUND A LOT OF LARGE EXISTING TREES, ONSIDE AND MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THOSE, UH, WHICH IS GENERATING A LOT OF THE LAYOUT AND THE DROP-OFF AREAS.

I DID WANT TO POINT OUT, AND IT'S NOT INHERENTLY APPARENT ON THIS DIAGRAM, BUT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS DIAGRAM, UM, THERE WAS A TRAIL YOU CAN SEE THAT IT WAS AROUND THE WEST EDGE OF THAT DROP-OFF.

SO THAT TRAIL ACTUALLY COMES ACROSS TIMMY ROAD AND CONNECTS ALL THE WAY DOWN, UH, TO BARTON SPRINGS ROAD.

UM, AGAIN, THERE'S A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT IS, IS ALREADY THERE THAT WE ARE CONNECTING TO AND TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT CONNECTION WITH.

UM, I DID PICK UP ON THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU ARE WORKING AROUND SOME FAIRLY DIFFICULT SURETY STAFF.

UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE WIDTH OF YOUR DROP-OFFS LIKE ROAD PROFILE? DO YOU THINK YOU'D GET THAT COULDN'T GET IN TIGHTER? SO WE HAVE IT, IT IS FAIRLY TIGHT AS WE COME AROUND THE OVAL.

UM, WE TRIED TO MINIMIZE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UH, JUST TO ACCOMMODATE A SINGLE CAR, UH, A PORTION OF THIS IS OR FIRE ACCESS LANE.

SO IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN WIDTH.

UM, SO BASICALLY IT'S A HAMMERHEAD THAT COMES UP, UM, ESSENTIALLY TO WHERE THAT TREE LINE IS.

UM, AND THEN AT THAT POINT IT KIND OF NECKS DOWN TO A MORE NARROW PARK ROAD.

I'VE GOT TO FIRE EXPIRE TURNED AROUND LAST CLOSE MATES THAT TRICKY.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

I JUST WANT TO DO A KIND OF VERIFY THAT THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT PEOPLE WILL COME BY BUS AND WE'D LIKE TO THINK THAT A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WILL COME BY BUS FOR THEM.

THEY WOULD, UH, GET OFF AT A STOP AT, I GUESS, TO AMAR AND TO ME ROAD AND THEN WALK ACROSS, WALK DOWN TO ME AND ACCESS TO SAFETY, SUICIDAL THE IDEA.

HERE AND THAT WOULD COMPLETE A CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK CONNECTION, UM, TO THE SOUTH ENTRY OF THE BUILDING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND I'LL JUMP TO THIS SLIDE, WHICH MIGHT SHOW IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

UM, THERE ARE SOME PLANS, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF, TO MEET

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VERY GOOD COMFORT.

I THINK THAT IS ROBERT.

YOU WANT TO DO SOME QUICK SCALING HERE? I SORRY ABOUT THAT.

AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS CONTINUE.

ABOUT ABOUT 300 YARDS OR SO.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UM, REGARDING WHETHER, AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE, BUT I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND RUDE, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECT IS BAKED OR NOT, I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS, UM, THE 130 PARKING SPACES.

WHAT'S THE CAPACITY OF THIS BUILDING.

I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR MORE PARKING AND JUST, THERE'S A BUSINESS.

THERE'S AN ENTIRE THOUGHT PROCESS I'M GOING WITH HERE, BUT WHAT'S THE CAPACITY OF THIS BUILDING.

SO I WILL, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, THE PARKING NUMBERS, SO WE HAVE A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, UH, ON OUR TEAM AND WE HAVE STUDIED, UH, PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

AGAIN, THIS FACILITY IS SERVING THE BACK ITSELF.

IT'S SERVING PART, IT'S SERVING ZACH SCOTT AND IT'S SERVING THE PARK, UH, AND THE BALL FIELDS.

AND WE HAVE RUN THROUGH ANALYSIS OF THOSE ELEMENTS IN THE DEMANDS ON THOSE ELEMENTS AND KIND OF APPLIED A FILTER TO THAT TRAFFIC, UM, DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGY, UH, TO DEVELOP A RECOMMENDED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR THE SITE.

AND THAT IS PREDICATED ON, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY IS DRIVING TO THE SITE, IT'S PREDICATED ON, UH, MASS TRANSIT, UH, BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN, UH, ACCESS TO THE SITE.

GOT IT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT WHAT'S THE CAPACITY OF THE BUILDING, THE OCCUPANT LOAD IN THE BUILDING.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

YOU GOT TO BE RIGHT.

SO THAT, THAT CAN VARY DEPENDING ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BUILDING, UH, AT VARIOUS TIMES, UM, WHETHER THERE'S, UM, A THEATER EVENT THAT'S GOING ON, THE DECK HAS NUMEROUS EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, AND THEN IT VARIES QUITE A BIT AND WE'D HAVE TO PROBABLY PULL UP THE, UM, ANALYSIS TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION MORE ACCURATELY.

GOTCHA.

SO WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, CAUSE I WAS READING THROUGH SOME BEAT SOME OF THE BACKUP MATERIAL FROM OTHER STUDIES, NAMELY A MEMO FROM THE CITY MANAGER, UH, IN JULY OF 2022.

AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING ME ON THIS LOGIC HERE, UM, THAT MEMO STATES THAT THE PARKING GARAGE, THE PARK, THE UNDERGROUND PARKING STRUCTURE ITSELF, WHICH I APPLAUD ON THE GARAGE.

I LOVE THE FACT THE PARKING IS UNDERGROUND, UH, COULD COST ANYWHERE BETWEEN 12 TO $15 MILLION.

UM, IF YOU DO JUST ROUGH NUMBERS REAL QUICK, THAT'S $115,000 A PARKING SPOT AT 130 SPACES, WE DON'T EVEN PAY THAT MUCH FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, SO I GUESS FROM GOING WITH THIS, IS THAT THAT'S, IT, IT COULD, THE MEMO CONTINUES TO SAY THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT IS $28 MILLION.

ONCE AGAIN, VERY CONCERNING BECAUSE YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY PUTTING HALF OF THE BUILDING COST, UM, IN PARKING THE LONG AND SHORT OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET, GET TO HERE IS, UM, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS THING IF WE ONLY HAVE $28 MILLION? AND IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY MONETIZE THE PARKING LOT TO GET MORE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? CAN WE FINANCE THE PARK RESTRUCTURED? YOU SAID THAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR PAUL FIELDS FOR THE ZACK THEATER FOR THESE PURPOSES, AND POTENTIALLY, MAYBE FOR THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN ZILKER PARK, ARE WE SHORTCHANGING OURSELVES, UM, POTENTIALLY MORE ART SPACE AND MORE DOHERTY ARTS CENTER OR $115,000 PER SPACE PARKING GARAGE? YEAH, I CAN, I CAN ADDRESS PART OF THAT AND I APPRECIATE WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, BECAUSE I THINK FROM THE START AND THROUGH ALL THE COUNCIL DIRECTION, WE'VE HEARD THE INTENT WHERE OUR PROJECT AND OUR PROJECT TEAM IS ON BOARD IS TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PARKS, BOND DOLLARS THAT ARE DELIVERING AND PARKS FACILITY.

AND IT'S THROUGH THIS COUNCIL PROCESS THAT WE WERE DIRECTED TO BUILD THIS UNDERGROUND GARAGE.

THE NUMBERS THAT YOU CITED WERE BASED ON OUR SCHEMATIC DESIGN SET, WHICH HAD A LARGER GARAGE CAPACITY, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN PARED DOWN.

UM, BUT UNDERGROUND

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PARKING IS, IS COSTLY.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THE BUDGET OFFICE TO TALK ABOUT A MODEL THAT COULD POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, A REVENUE BASED MODEL THAT COULD FUND THE GARAGE THROUGH AN ENTERPRISE, UM, PROGRAM AT THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, OUR INTENT IS TO USE THE PARKS BOND DOLLARS TO DELIVER THE DOOR TO THE ARTS FACILITY.

AND WE KNOW THAT THIS UNDERGROUND PARKING ELEMENT OF THE PROJECT IS THE UNFUNDED ELEMENT AT THIS TIME.

SO THAT IS WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED IN THE MEMO.

AND IT'S, IT'S BEEN A CATALYST FOR SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION WITH, WITH, UM, CITY LEADERSHIP AND THE BUDGET OFFICE TO SEEK AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION THERE.

SO, SO LET ME GET THIS AND MADE THE STRAIGHT.

SO THE PARKING GARAGE CURRENTLY IS UNFUNDED, BUT WE'RE BUILDING OUR DOHERTY, OUR ET CETERA, ON TOP OF THE PARKING GARAGE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS SO WE CAN GET ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT COSTS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S A CHALLENGE THERE, BUT, UM, OH, THIS IS A HUGE CHALLENGE.

YOU CAN'T BUILD ON SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T, IF IT'S NOT THERE.

SO THAT'S, AND LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE WITH THIS, BUT I THINK THIS IS THIS, THIS PROJECT ISN'T, ISN'T FULLY BAKED YET.

AND I THINK THAT THERE'S, THERE'S POSSIBLY A MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL, MUCH MORE ROBUST PROJECT.

ONCE WE DO FIGURE OUT THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT, FOR THE PARKING GARAGE, POTENTIALLY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 12 AND $15 MILLION WORTH OF FOR PROJECT.

I THINK THAT MAXIMIZES THE USE OF PUBLIC CLEANSE.

YOUR, YOUR POINT IS WELL-TAKEN.

AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT TEAM IS APPROACHING THIS NOW AS IF THE, THE $28 MILLION PROJECT BUDGET THAT WAS AWARDED THROUGH THE BOND IS DELIVERING THE DOOR TO YARDS FACILITY.

OUR DEPARTMENT IS ACTIVELY SEEKING ALTERNATIVE FUNDING TO DELIVER THE GARAGE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

I KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S FULLY BAKED YET.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY SENSE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T GO ON SOMEBODY, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE.

I THINK WHEN WE DO FIGURE OUT THE FUNDING SOURCE AND FIGURE OUT HOW, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT FOR A BIGGER, MORE BEAUTIFUL AUTHORITY ART SPACE, I THINK YOU'LL PROBABLY BE COMING BACK TO US.

I'D LIKE TO ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION.

WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS PROCESS OF BRINGING CONVICTION IT'S UM, SHE CANNOT GET FUNDING FOR THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE ENTIRE BUILDING IS BUILT ABOVE THE PARKING GARAGE.

SO IF THERE'S NO PARKING GARAGE, IF THEY CAN'T FIND THE PARKING LOT AS THEY CAN'T BUILD A BUILDING, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS PREMATURE.

I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACTUALLY, UM, THE PARKING GARAGE, UM, WHETHER IT'S TO ENTERPRISE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR MORE CARS, BUT IF WE NEED TO ADD A FEW PARKING SPOTS TO MAXIMIZE THOSE FUNDS, SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, FULLY PARKED OTHER, OTHER THINGS AND UTILIZE THESE PARKING STRUCTURE, THE $15 MILLION PARKING STRUCTURE FOR THE BENEFIT OF, OF THE LARGER, THE LARGER AREA, ACTUALLY MAKING MONEY OFF OF THIS, THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE REST OF THE PROJECT.

BUT UNTIL THEN WE'RE BUILDING ON AIR, LITERALLY BUILDING ON AIR AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE PROBLEM, WE'RE NOT, WHAT ARE WE BEING WE'RE ASKING US TO EVALUATE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK, COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS.

RIGHT? SO I'M, SO I THINK AT A BASE LEVEL, WE WOULD SAY, THIS DOES NOT COMPILED IN THE BUILDING STANDARDS.

IS THAT RIGHT? I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT.

I HONESTLY, I WOULD NOT ALSO QUIET THERE'S NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE IT TO A .

UM, AND SO WE'RE SAYING, SORRY, I GUESS YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DON'T THINK OF THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS BECAUSE IT'S NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE.

NO.

AND SOBER PARTS.

AND SO THE BUDGET'S AT SOME FUNCTION.

I WOULD SAY, WELL, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, CURRENTLY, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE.

EVEN, EVEN IF THEY DO FIND A WAY TO FINANCE THE PARKING GARAGE TO FUND THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO OTHERWISE, THEY CAN'T BUILD A PROJECT.

THIS MAY BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY.

WE MAY BE SEEING A BUNCH MORE BEAUTIFUL, MORE ROBOTS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE BUDGET IS $28 MILLION.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WE'RE DEPLETING LIKE A EAST SIDE THAT REALLY HASN'T FACED FULL PROGRAMMING WITH BUDGET REALITIES.

LIKE IT'S ALMOST LIKE BOTH KIND OF HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME AND NOW WE'RE GETTING A BUDGET AND THAT DON'T REALLY MATCH.

THE, I GET THAT, BUT I ALSO WONDER, LIKE, IF IT'S THE QUESTION, LIKE, DOES THIS DD SET COMPLY AND LIKE ASSUMING X, Y, AND Z WILL GET SOLVED? ARE WE JUST ASKING THIS MENTION OF THAT? SURE.

SO CAN I WOULDN'T CALL THAT

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THAT WAS COME BACK TO US WHEN YOU HAVE TO REWORK IT ALL.

BUT THERE'S FINANCING QUESTIONS.

WE'RE SAYING WE APPROVE IT.

I DON'T, I, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T REALLY USE WELL, YEAH.

WE TURNED INTO UNANIMOUS VOTES TONIGHT, SO, OR, SORRY.

SURE.

IF, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING.

LET'S JUST CLARIFY, YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION AND A FINDING WHETHER THERE'S A CLIENT, BUT CITY SUSTAINABILITY AND DESIGN STUDENTS, IF THERE IS NOT FINDING THAT, I'M SURE THE DESIGN TEAM WOULD APPRECIATE KNOWING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ACHIEVE THAT.

THERE'S CONSTRUCTION QUESTIONS.

YOU CAN HONE IN ON THOSE AND CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

COULD YOU MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND WHAT YOU THINK? SO I WOULD, I'LL TRY TO GET THIS CLEARANCE A SINK CAUSE I WOULD'VE MOVED THAT THE PROJECT DOES NOT MEET THE CITY'S, UH, SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS, UM, BASED ON TAKE THAT BACK.

THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S ONE PART OF THE MOTION RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF IS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT, UM, POTENTIAL FUNDING SLASH FINANCING SOURCES FOR THE PARKING GARAGE TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY BUILD THE PARKING GARAGE AS DESIGNED OR MAYBE SOMETHING, SOMETHING DIFFERENT BASED ON WHAT THE ENTERPRISE PARKING OFFICE IS LOOKING AT OR RECOMMENDS.

SO WE CAN ACTUALLY FLAT FUND THE PROP, FUND THE PROJECT AND KNOW THAT WE'RE BUILDING, WE'RE BUILDING THE MOST ROBUST, UH, MOST BEAUTIFUL PROJECT THAT WE CAN, AND THAT'S THE OTHER POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT TO MAKE IT MORE PROPERLY SIZED FOR THE BUDGET 80.

THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPTION AS WELL AS A PRINTING LIMIT.

CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION TO THE COMMISSION? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S SUSTAINABILITY GUIDELINES ARE RELATED TO THE POLICY THAT REQUIRES LEAD CERTIFICATION OR AN EQUIVALENT SUSTAINABILITY CERTIFICATION.

THAT'S I JUST WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THAT LANGUAGE CORRECTLY.

I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION MYSELF, THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GETTING AT WITH MY PURSE, WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO LOOK AT.

UM, AND IF IT IS JUST LIKE LEAD OR THAT KIND OF THING, THEN THAT DOESN'T REALLY, IT'S LESS THAT OVERARCHING FINANCIAL VIABILITY MARK.

SURE.

I KNOW.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND, UM, UM, I GET, I GET YOUR POINT.

MY THING IS I DON'T HAVE I IN GOOD FAITH COULD NOT VOTE FOR THIS THING, KNOWING THAT IT MOST LIKELY COULD NOT EVEN BE BUILT, RIGHT.

SO WHAT AM I VOTING ON? SO I WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY ABSTAIN FROM VOTING IS WHAT I'M SAYING IS EITHER YAY OR NAY.

BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD AND GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATIONS, MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR ME TO BE COMFORTABLE VOTING ON THIS PROJECT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, WHETHER IT'S LEAD OR FOR URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES OR CHAPTER III COMPLIANCE OR WHATEVER THAT MAY LOOK LIKE.

IT'S A PROJECT THAT WE KNOW CAN GET BUILT.

THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT CERTAINLY IS LIKE WHAT, UM, OR IT COULD BE BETTER, OR IT COULD BE BETTER IF THEY, IF THEY FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIND IT, HOW TO FUND THE PARKING LOT, SOME NATURE PUT A POSTPONEMENT SUFFICE AND YOU ASK THE DESIGN TEAM DIRECTLY TO PRINT BACK THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER THIS PROJECT WOULD HAPPEN NECESSARILY.

IF THEY'RE MAKING, WE NEED TO EVALUATE IT FOR COMPLIANCE WITH CITY DESIGN, THE SUSTAINABILITY'S JUST THE HOST CULMINATE IN GENERAL, OR VISIT US WHEN YOU JUST COME IN FOR YOU WOULD BE ASKING THE TEAM.

IF ONE MONTH POSTPONEMENT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TIME TO BRING BACK THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO EVALUATE THE PROJECT.

THAT QUESTION FROM THE TEAM, WHAT A ONE MONTH POSTPONEMENT OF THIS PROCESS BE SUFFICIENT TIME TO BRING BACK INFORMATION REGARDING THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ASKED HIM, COMMISSIONER WEAVER HAS ASKED TODAY AND Y'ALL CAN, Y'ALL HEAR ME.

I HAD MY HAND RAISED AND I JUST FINALLY GOT MY CAMERA WORKING IN MY MICROPHONE WORKING.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF I'M, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M ACTUALLY A PART OF THE BEATING RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I WASN'T ON ONLINE EARLIER.

BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M A, UH, I'M A MEMBER OF THE CZECH TRAIL FOUNDATION PROJECTS COMMITTEE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

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I'VE BEEN OVERSEEING THIS PROJECT.

THIS IS MY PROJECT OVERSEE.

I THINK THEY HAVE DONE KEVIN AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE A WHOLE LOT TO KIND OF LIKE WORK IN A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN, IN ABOUT THE PARKING GARAGE.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL PLAN IN, YOU KNOW, ZILKER PARK IS GOING TO BE A, THERE'S A NEW MASTER PLAN FOR ZILKER IN HIS KEVIN KNOWS THE TRAIL FOUNDATION IS SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SO PICKY ABOUT WHAT WE'VE SENT HIM.

SO MANY, UH, IDEAS OR CRITIQUES OR WHATEVER IT IS ABOUT HOW HIS, HIS PROJECT ALIGNS WITH THE TRAIL.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT I THINK THEY HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT I WOULD EVER EXPECT TO KIND OF MAKE THIS AS THE WHOLE HOLISTIC DEAL.

AND IN THE GARAGE, THE GARAGE PART OF THE WHOLE THING IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING, THEY, THEY, THEY AGREED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THEIR GARAGE, YOU KNOW, DURING THE OFF HOURS TO KIND OF LIKE, UH, SUBSIDIZE WHAT WE DON'T HAVE.

SO I THINK THE GARAGE IS REALLY, TO ME HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF THIS.

AND I'VE BEEN, AND KEVIN KNOWS I'VE BEEN KIND OF OUTSPOKEN ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES, BUT I WOULD S I WOULD BEG THE COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A HUGE PROCESS WITH THEY HAVE WITH THE TRAIL FOUNDATION.

AND WE WANT THIS THING TO BE, TO WORK WITH A HOLISTIC PLAN OF HOW THE PARKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WORK IN AUSTIN IN, I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN WHETHER OR NOT I CAN VOTE ON THIS OR NOT.

CAUSE I WASN'T MY CAMERA WASN'T WORKING AT ALL.

I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT.

I JUST HAD TO ADD MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR PERMISSION TO 10 OF YOUR CHEEK.

I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO VOTE AND CONTRIBUTE.

UM, THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION.

TANIGUCHI IF YOU'D LIKE TO RECUSE YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT A STAKE IN THE PROJECT.

THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT IF YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT OKAY, A STAKE IN MY, IN STAKE IN THE PROJECT IS A CONCERNED CITIZEN.

I DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF MONETARY OR ANYTHING, ANY STAKE LIKE THAT.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE CITY.

TO DO BY COUNCIL IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE FUNDED TO DELIVER THROUGH THE BOND.

THANK YOU, EVAN, FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, JUST TO PIGGYBACK THAT, TO ADD TO THOSE COMMENTS THAT I HAVE, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE, THERE IS A, UM, UH, TWO THINGS THAT I PICK UP FROM, FROM YOUR COMMENTS.

NUMBER ONE, FIRST OF ALL, I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

I'M NOT JUDGING THIS PROJECT ON ITS, ON ITS, ON ITS DESIGN, UH, MERITS WHATSOEVER.

IT'S AN AMAZING PROJECT, BUT I DO BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB OR AT LEAST THE BEST JOB THAT YOU CAN TO THIS POINT.

UM, BUT TWO THINGS, EVAN, AS YOU WELL MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TRAIL FOUNDATION, LIKE YOU SAID, IS LOOKING TO USE THIS PARKING STRUCTURE FOR OFF HOURS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A DEMAND THERE FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, YOU ALSO MENTIONED, AND THE WHOLE ZILKER PARK, UM, PARK PARKING SITUATION.

I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE LOOKING AT OTHER PARKING OPTIONS FOR ZILKER PARK.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT'S AT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S TALK OF, OF, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT A, KIND OF A MASTER PLAN FOR ZILKER PARK.

AND MY QUESTION WOULD BE ONCE AGAIN, THE SAYING TO STAFF, ARE WE DOING THE MOST WITH WHAT, WITH THIS PARKING GARAGE HERE? OR COULD THIS BE PART OF A LARGER DISTRICT PARKING PARKING PLAN, RIGHT? ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR MORE PARKING SPACES, BUT IF WE NEED TO ADD 50 PARKING SPACES SO WE CAN MAKE THE NUMBERS PENCIL OUT SO THAT WE CAN FINANCE THIS THING THROUGH SOME OTHER MECHANISM AND ACTUALLY GET THE FUNDS TO BUILD THE PARKING GARAGE, AS OPPOSED TO RIGHT NOW, UH, PUTTING UP HALF OF THE COST, ESSENTIALLY HALF OF THE COSTS FOR THIS PART PROJECT FOR JUST PARKING.

BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I THINK, AND I GO BACK TO THE QUESTION, THE STAFF IS A ONE MONTH POSTPONEMENT.

UM, DOES THAT, WOULD THAT SUFFICE FOR Y'ALL TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION OR COME BACK WITH INFORMATION TO GAUGE AN ADEQUATE, AN ADEQUATE, UH, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATION? UH, SO, SO, SO I, I I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT AS PARKING GARAGES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, RIGHT? STRETCHING PARKING.

I'M ACTUALLY NOT HAVING A GOOD TEA.

CAN YOU JUST, CAN YOU JUST LET, UM, CAN YOU JUST LET HIM ASK THE QUESTION THAT THAT WAS DIRECTED TO ME? I THOUGHT THAT THE QUESTION OF THE ONE, YEAH, I'LL, I'LL SAY THE ADDITIONAL TIME WOULD GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ON UPDATED GARAGE COSTS FOR THIS FACILITY.

UM, BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY ALSO IT'S A BIT OF A PROJECT SEQUENCING ISSUE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO MOVE THE DESIGN FORWARD AND WORK WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER SO WE CAN HAVE ACCURATE PRICING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY LEADERSHIP.

PART OF THE REASON THAT WE ISSUED THE MEMO IS BECAUSE AT OUR SCHEMATIC DESIGN MILESTONE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN OUR CONSTRUCTION MARKET, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT WHAT WE WERE DIRECTED

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AND WE WE'D NEVER REQUESTED FUNDING FOR AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE.

SO WE HAVE STARTED CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE CIRCULATED AMONGST EVERY COUNCIL OFFICE, THE BUDGET OFFICE AND CITY LEADERSHIP.

THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF THIS ISSUE RIGHT NOW.

AND WE ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING ALTERNATIVE FINANCING FOR THIS GARAGE.

SO I WOULD JUST THROW ONE OTHER CONSIDERATION OUT THERE, WHICH IS AS IT'S SIZED CURRENTLY, IT'S BASED ON A TRAFFIC DEMAND MANAGEMENT STUDY TO MEET THE NEEDS IN THIS IMMEDIATE DISTRICT.

UM, THE, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TONIGHT IS, IS BASED ON A COMPREHENSIVE PROJECT THAT INCLUDES THAT EPIC DEMAND MANAGEMENT INFORMATION.

IF WE WERE TO, BECAUSE OF FUNDING ISSUES HAVE TO DRASTICALLY CHANGE OUR APPROACH HERE, WE WOULD NATURALLY COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO SEEK YOUR RECOMMENDATION AGAIN.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION THAT WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT IS, IS A COMPLETE PROJECT THAT WE ARE SEEKING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR.

SO WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE PARKS BOND DOLLARS.

AND ASSUMING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SECURE THAT FUNDING THROUGH TALKS WITH THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

I WONDER IF THAT JUST FRAMES THE CONVERSATION DIFFERENTLY THAT WE'RE HAVING NOW, BUT YOU JUST SAID IT YOURSELF THOUGH, THAT YOU WERE WORKING WITH OTHER KINDS OF OFFICES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE FINDINGS AND MECHANISMS ARE.

AND IF YOU ARE ABLE TO SECURE THE FUNDING, YOU WILL BE COMING BACK TO US.

AND THAT WAS THE START OF MY ENTIRE POINT.

IS THAT THIS PROJECT ISN'T FULLY BAKED YET? I THINK, NO.

I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I HEARD IS THAT IF THEY ARE ABLE TO SEE IF, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER IF THE MANDATION ALLOWS THEM TO PROCEED BOARD, AND IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO SORT OF KILL ITS FUNDING, THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO US EVEN PROJECT.

I MEAN, I THEN YES, THAT IS THAT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID OF KEVIN SAID, BUT REGARDLESS, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S HALF OF THE COST OF THE, OF THE PROJECT.

SO I PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER SEE IT.

LET'S SAY YOU AREN'T ABLE TO SECURE, ALTERNATIVE, FIND ALTERNATE FUNDING SOURCES.

IT STILL HASN'T THE COST OF THE PROJECT.

SO WE HAVE A $28 MILLION BUDGET.

WE HAVE $15 MILLION IN PARKING.

WE HAVE $13 MILLION WORTH OF DOHERTY ART CENTER.

I MEAN, IT, JUST, TO ME, DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A RESPONSIBLE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS OR MAXIMIZATION OF PARKLANDS.

SO I DON'T.

IN THIS KINETIC DESIGN SET, WHICH INCLUDED A BIGGER GARAGE FOOTPRINT THAN WE ARE CURRENTLY MOVING FORWARD WITH.

UM, OKAY.

CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION TO THE 20TH? IS THAT ALL GOING TO THE DORIOT CENTER ABOVE THE GARAGE, AND THEN THEY NEED TO SEE ADDITIONAL FOR THE GARAGE BELOW.

SO CURRENTLY YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY SPLIT IT.

YOU'RE NOT SHARING IT BETWEEN THE TWO.

SO ACCORDING TO THEM, THAT GOES TO THE DODI ART CENTER, AND THEN THEY'RE TRYING TO SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE GARAGE BUILD UP, WHICH IF THEY DON'T GET THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, THEN THEY'LL COME BACK US WITH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.

SO ACCORDING TO THE MEMO WRITTEN BY SPENCER CROSS, IT SAYS PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES SUGGEST THE CONSTRUCTION POSSIBLY UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE DEBT BETWEEN 12 TO $15 MILLION AND COSTS FOR THE BUILDING ARE ESTIMATED NEAR 28 MILLION POUNDS.

THE TOTAL BOND ALLOCATION FOR THIS PROJECT IS $28.5 MILLION WITH A PORTION OF FUNDING ALREADY SPENT.

SO IF THEY DON'T GET IT FOR THE UNDERGROUND PARKING MUCH, THAT COMES OUT OF 28.5 MILLION.

I THINK THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING UNLESS THEY PUT UP ANOTHER BOND AND THEY FIND SOME OTHER WAY TO, IT'S ALSO THE FOUNDATION OF THE BUILDING.

SO YOU CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH A FOUNDATION THAT'S NOT THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING, FOCUSING ON THE IT'S 50% OF THE OVERALL BUDGET, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THREE TIMES THAT NORMAL PARKING SPACE, UH, METRIC FOR UNDERGROUND PARKING.

SO I THINK THAT'S THE, WHICH IS YOU, YOU TRIED TO PULL THAT 40,000, UM, PER SPACE AND OKAY.

AND IF IT LEAKS UP 50 55, I JUST VALUE YOUR DIAL PLATE UNDERGROUND, CRIKEY, OVER PROJECT THAT WAS COMING IN AT 55 PER SPEEDS, AND DECIDED TO JUST DO A SLAB ON GRADE.

UM, SO TO THINK ABOUT PUBLIC DOLLARS GOING TO $115,000 A SPACE, LIKE I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD FINANCE THAT.

LIKE I SAID, IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S SO DIFFERENT THAT THEY'RE FINANCING PARKING SPACES THAT ARE FREE, FIND THE C KIND OF GOING METRIC FOR FINANCE.

SO WE MAY NOT EVEN HAVE IT.

THEY MAY JUST BE REDACTED, REDESIGNED THE ENTIRE THING ANYWAYS.

GREAT.

AND SO THEN IT COULD BE EXPENSIVE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S THE FOUNDATION INTEGRATED IN.

SO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY A CONSIDERATION, BUT EVEN STILL THE GOING THE GOING NUMBER, SUPPORTING NOT A HUNDRED.

AND I, I DID WANT TO REITERATE THE NUMBERS FROM THAT MEMO WERE BASED ON PRICING

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SO IT'S, IT'S NOT $115,000 PER SPACE NECESSARILY THAT THERE WERE A LARGER NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IN THE PREVIOUS DESIGN.

KEVIN, COULD YOU, COULD YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION THOUGH IS A ONE MONTH POSTPONEMENT.

IF YOU COME BACK TO US IN ONE MONTH, DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE THIS OUT OR AT LEAST WITH MORE INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE, I CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE BY, ABOUT VOTING.

DO YOU NEED US TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO EVEN MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR DISCUSSIONS? LIKE I SAID TO YOU TO EVEN GET THAT INFORMATION AT MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, BUT I, I BELIEVE THE LANGUAGE ON THE AGENDA IS RELATED TO THE CITY SUSTAINABILITY GUIDELINES AND, AND SUB CHAPTER E.

AND I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE COMING BECAUSE THIS IS A CITY PROJECT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANT TO SHARE IT WITH THE COMMISSION.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINANCING ISSUES ARE FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO FIGURE OUT AND IF SHOW YOU SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO DRASTICALLY CHANGE TO DELIVER, THEN WE WOULD COME BACK AGAIN.

UM, I THINK WE'RE COMING TO YOU AS AN ADVISORY BODY FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY AND SUB CHAPTER.

HE ISSUES TONIGHT.

, THEY'RE COMING TO US TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO HIM.

AND IF THEY HAVE TO REWORK THE WHOLE DESIGN, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET FINANCING FOR FUNDING FOR THE PORTION OF WHAT THEY PRESENT TO US, THAT'S ON THEM, BUT WE WOULDN'T GET TO HAVE AN OPINION ON IT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE DESIGN COMMISSION WELL, BUT WE'RE ALSO, I MEAN, BUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY CORRECTED FINANCES, THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, INDIVIDUAL FINANCE, OR RATHER, UH, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, INDIVIDUAL FINANCE OUT OF OUR PURVIEW, BUT WE ARE HERE AS PUBLIC STEWARDS.

UM, APPROACHING THIS, LIKE TRYING TO PAINT FINISH, AND I'M SORRY, BUT I'M TALKING, UM, NUMBERS OF LOCATIONS.

AND THIS IS A PUBLIC PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S JUST, I PERSONALLY CANNOT VOTE THIS THING FORWARD.

UM, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUB CHAPTER, YEAH.

YOU DON'T SEE A CROSS SECTION SHOWING SUB-TASK PRETTY COMPLIANCE.

IS THERE ONE IN A MISFIT? NO, THERE'S NOT A CROSS SECTION.

I MEAN, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT SHOWS UP CHAPTER EIGHT COMPLIANCE? OKAY.

WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I MEAN, I CAN SEE THE PROJECT WHERE THEY WORKING WITH THE ALTERNATIVE WITH CLIENTS AS FAR AS ARRIVALS, BUT I'M HAVING TO KIND OF PICTURE IT IN MY MIND BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION DID IT DEMONSTRATED TO ME IN A WAY I, I SAW THAT ONE SLIDE ABOUT THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ON TRINITY ROAD AND WHERE THE BUS STOP IS.

AND ONE GOOD BLOCK ON TO THE INTENT OF THE BUILDING, BUT THAT PROCESSION WHEN TO ARRIVE ON SITE AND WALK, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T AS CLEAR.

AND THE WHOLE, A LITTLE BIT OF PROCESSION ALONG RIVERSIDE IS NOT REALLY HOW THAT WORKS.

IS THERE ANY PLANTING AND CERTAINLY WALKS HOW MANY DRIVE OUT SOMETHING, THE PROSTATE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I DON'T THINK IT WAS ME, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS ONLY, AND I WAS LIKE, HOPING IF IT IS ABOUT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FOR CLARITY ON THAT TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONVINCED THAT , YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT'S ARRIVED BEAT BY, SO, OKAY.

CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE A MONTH? SURE.

IT WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

SORRY.

IT WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION AT WE'D RESPOND A MONTH AND TAKE, UH, COME BACK TO US WITH MORE, AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU CAN PROVIDE, ADDRESSING THE QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT PROGRESS YOU COULD MAKE ON, UM, FINANCIAL, LIKE SUSTAINABILITY OF, OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE, UM, AND HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH THIS IS GOING TO JUST LIKE WHAT GOES PLAN IS MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU CAN'T GET THAT FOOT PAIN.

UM, AND THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK AS AN ENTIRELY PROJECT, OR IF WE'RE BOTH LIKE, LIKE SOME CLARITY FOR US, IF WE'RE VOTING ON LIKE A SCENARIO THAT IS NOT THE NEGATIVE REALITY.

UM, YEAH, BUT THERE'S A FACE APPROACH, SO, YEAH.

AND THEN ALSO COME BACK WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION ON HOW YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SUBCHAPTER E UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE APPROACH AND CROSS SECTIONS SHOWING, UM, THE EXPERIENCE FOR PEDESTRIANS,

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THE SECOND.

I PICKED UP, UH, SUBSTITUTE MOTION MOODLE.

UM, TELL ME JUST PHRASE THAT I ANSWERED.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION FIRST, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, BUT I WOULD, I HAVE TO REITERATE THAT.

I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS FAR AS SUSTAINABILITY.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT AS DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABLE FEATURES OR ELEMENTS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO COST MORE TO SINK A GARAGE DOWN IN A PARK SETTING LIKE ALONG THE TRAIL IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE IN, UNDER, IN STRUCTURED PARKING.

FIRST OF ALL, WHETHER IT'S ABOVE GROUND OR IT'S BELOW GROUND IS GOING TO COST MORE, BUT STRUCTURED PARKING IS ONE OF THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY THINGS.

AS YOU CAN FIGURE OUT, IF YOU LOOK AT THESE BIG PARKING LOTS AT WALMART, WHEREVER IT IS SO STRUCTURED, PARKING IS GOING TO COST YOU A LOT MORE SINKING THAT STRUCTURED PARKING IS GOING TO COST YOU EVEN MORE, BUT YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE SITE AND YOU GOT TO SEE WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE THAT ARE WITH THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT HAVING A STRUCTURE, HAVING A SUNK, SUNKEN, STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE ALONG ON LAKE, THAT WE CAN ALL SHARE ZILKER PARK AND SHARE THE CITY CAN SHARE DURING OFF HOURS.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A NO BRAINER TO ME.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD, I THINK, I THINK MOST OF US AGREE WITH THE INTENT AND DESIGN.

I'M GOING TO SHOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN SHOWN TODAY IN TERMS OF LIKE THAT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

THAT'S GOOD FOR, UM, WHAT ALL OF THE DIFFICULT PARTS TO BEING DEALT.

I THINK THERE'S JUST SO MANY QUESTIONS.

UM, WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PRODUCTIVE RECOMMENDATION TODAY WITHOUT A POSTPONEMENT? W W WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN ALTERNATIVES THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH? I DON'T THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR ALL THE TIME WHERE I DON'T THINK WE'RE MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ALTERNATIVES RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND ADDED POSTPONEMENT.

NO, MY CONCERN REALLY IS I THINK THE FINANCING IS PRIVATE BECAUSE OUTSIDE ARE ATTACHED TO THE FIRST.

BUT SECONDLY, I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, I TO SEE THAT, UH, HOW THE TRANSIT, UH, RIDERS, THE PEOPLE ARRIVED BY BUS PANEL, HOW THAT APPROACHES THIS, UH, BUILDING JUST STRIKES ME AS BEING LARGE AND AUTO CENTRIC, UH, PROJECT.

AND, UH, IT MAY BE BECAUSE OF ESTIMATE, BUT THAT'S YOU HERE THERE, WE WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SEE, UH, MORE TRANSIT USERS.

WHAT IS THE PEOPLE COME TO THIS PLACE ON THE BUS? AND I HAVE TO SEE, UH, MORE, UH, A LITTLE MORE, ELABORATE, MORE ELABORATION ON WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE TO GET OFF THAT HAD TOLD ME IN A SENSE THAT THAT'S THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE IS, IS THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE IS GOING TO INSURE TRANSIT PROVIDERS, OR IS IT PRIMARY ENTRANCE GOING TO SERVE PEOPLE ARRIVED BY CAR? AND THAT'S, I THINK IS A, IS A, IS A REAL QUESTION AND MORE IMPORTANT TO ME ABOUT HOW THE C LOTS AND KIND OF FINANCE $20 MILLION, WHICH BY THE WAY, I'M SURE HE CAN, BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IS THIS GOING TO LOOK 20 YEARS? AND WE'VE GOT A REALLY TRYING TO PUSH TREND 20 YEARS RIGHT NOW WE'RE PUSHING TRANSIT.

IT'S HARD TO LEAVE OXFORD.

WE CAN.

HOW DOES THIS PROJECT FIT IN WITH THEM FAR ENOUGH ON THIS? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONER, UM, COMMENT ABOUT FUTURE USE.

I THINK THEY CAN POTENTIALLY EXPAND ON NORMAL, TINY LITTLE THING, LITTLE FUNCTIONALITY SUCH AS THEIR SCOOTER PARKY.

SO I THINK A REALLY FULL ACCESSIBILITY MAP CAN BE REALLY HELPFUL ALONG WITH SOME DETAILED AREAS, SHOWING HOW USERS GO FROM WHATEVER MODE TO ACCESS SPACE.

I JUST WANNA, I WANNA, OH, SORRY.

ONE MORE ON THAT.

AND THEN ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, A REALLY, UM, CONVINCING ARGUMENT FOR THE ADA ACCESSIBILITY, UH, IS ALSO REVIEWED THAT WITH OTHER CITY PROJECTS, UM, TO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TOTALLY CONFIDED WITH SUBJECT THREE AND OH, ACCESSIBILITY.

I JUST WANT TO RE CLARIFY THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITIES, HOW THE CITY FINANCES, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY, BUT ENSURING THAT WE GET, UM, THE MOST BEAUTIFUL, ROBUST BUILDING POSSIBLE IS WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.

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AND SO WHERE I'M MAKING THE CONNECTION IS THAT IF WE ARE ABLE TO REDUCE PARKING COSTS, FIND ANOTHER WAY TO, TO FUND THOSE COSTS, WHATEVER THIS LOOKS LIKE.

IF WE COULD ADD EVEN $10 MILLION TO THE, TO, TO THE TOTAL BOUNTY OF THIS PROJECT, WE GET A LOT MORE BEAUTIFUL BUILDING IN THE CITY THAT IS STARVING FOR OUR SPACES.

THAT'S MY POINT.

SO THAT'S WHY I INITIALLY SAID NO, BUT HE WAS FULLY BAKED AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A CLARIFYING POINT.

I WAS TRYING TO MAKE WE'RE IN A QUESTION.

CAN I ASK, CAN I, CAN I, CAUSE I'VE STILL GOT IN MY MIND, UH, GIVEN THAT THE 28 MILLION, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE NUMBER.

IT'S ALL GOING TO BE.

YOU HAVE SAID THAT, THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN, EXCLUDING THE GARAGE AND THIS CAR DESIGN AND THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S SO, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY MORE OUT TO BUILDING, REGARDLESS.

LIKE THIS IS WHERE WE'RE MAXING OUT THE, THE BUDGET TO US BUILDING STUFF RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEN THE CITY CITY COUNCIL ASKS THEM TO SUBMERGE A POCKET UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING ON TOP OF LIKE OVER AND ABOVE THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND THAT THEY NOW NEED TO FIND EXTRA ASSIGNMENTS FUNDING FOR THAT.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO, HOW WE'RE GOING TO SQUEEZE IT OUT WITH THEM.

SO LOOKING AT IT FROM THE REVERSE PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? WHAT IF WE, WHAT IF WE GET LESS? SO IF THEY CAN'T FIND A FUCKING SOURCE FOR THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH CURRENTLY IS THIS FOUNDATION OF A BUILDING, RIGHT? THEY'VE GOT TO PARK THAT THING SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? THEY NEED TO PUT THE, TO PROVIDE 130 PARKING SPACES.

THEY CAN TAKE IT FROM THE BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE.

YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM THE BUILDING.

YOU CAN ADD THEM WHEREVER YOU WANT, BUT YOU GOT TO PARK 130 COPS, AND YOU'RE NOT PARKING UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING ANYMORE.

SO THIS IS A WHOLE NEW PROJECT.

ONCE AGAIN, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT ADDING TO THE BEAUTY OF THE BUILDING, YOU'RE SURELY TAKING AWAY MY POINT BEING, IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PARKING, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

I'M NOT SURE DISCUSSION, BUT ONE MONTH.

UM, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU, UH, CAN WE CLARIFY THE WORST? JUST HAVING IT THERE IN MY HEAD, I'M GOING TO LIKE WAY THAT STAFF UNDERSTANDS EMOTIONS, THAT THERE IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE ACTION ON THIS ITEM.

THEREFORE, MEANING PARENTHESES, NO RECOMMENDATION ON CITY SYSTEM INTERPRETED SCIENCE STANDARDS AT THIS TIME, WE'RE INVITING THE DESIGN TEAM SINCE THE PERSONAS FOR ONE MONTH TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REQUESTED REGARDING FINANCING, PARKING , BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, ET CETERA, ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WERE MENTIONED HERE, THAT HAZEL COMMUNICATE TO THE DESIGN TEAM, PRINTED ACCESS ACCESS.

AND SO, SO PHASING, IF WE DON'T FIND FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT, WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN THE FUTURE, LET'S THROW PHASING IN THERE TOO AS WELL.

AND SO YES, ALL THAT WILL BE COMMUNICATED TO THE DESIGN TEAM.

SO THEY MAY GATHER INFORMATION FOR YOU AND BRING THIS ITEM BACK TO YOU AFTER MAY MEETING SO THAT YOU MAY CONSIDER THE SETUP.

SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON THE ITEM YOU'RE POSTPONING ACTION TO CORRECT.

SO NOW THERE'S HOW, YEAH.

YOU SHOULD HAVE NOT GONE NATIONAL MINUS YOU MENTIONED A TON OF GOOD CHEAP.

CAN I SHOW EVA? YES.

MYSELF.

COMMISSIONER WHITELEY.

SO THAT IS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH US TONIGHT.

I THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THE VERY PASSIONATE DISCUSSION.

ONE CITY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO EVALUATE MY RECOMMENDATION REGARDING

PUTTING ON TO ISLAND

[1.c. Discussion and possible action to evaluate and make recommendations regarding whether the Canyon Creek APD Sub-Station, located 9804 N. FM 620, complies with the City Design and Sustainability Standards, for the City of Austin. Applicant(s): Burton Jones, Scott Smith]

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WHETHER THE CLIMATE APP SUBSTATION CIVIC SCIENCE, A LITTLE STATUS FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON, UH, JOBS.

I'M HERE.

CAN YOU SEE AND HEAR ME? OKAY.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT ROTATION TO SEPARATE ONE FIRE.

I'M CHRIS GROUP WAS WITH PJL.

UM, THIS IS, UH, POLICE AND SUBSTATION DOES HAVE A CONNECTION TO FIRE STATION FOUR OF THE FULL POWER STATION THAT WE FRIENDS THAT AN EARLIER GOODNIGHT RANCH.

UM, THE FIFTH FIRE STATION IN THE BUCKET OF FIVE IS THE CANYON CREEK FIRE IN THE STATION, WHICH IS THE SAME NAME AS THIS SUBSTATION.

AND SO IN THE PROGRESSION OF THE STATIONS THAT FIT FIRE EMS WANT TO USE A SITE THAT WAS PLEDGED TO ARE CONTROLLED BY COMMUNITY.

IT'S A 16 ACRE SITE.

AND SO IN THE, UH, MASTER PLAN AND THE PROJECTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ANALYSIS OF THAT 60 ACRE SITE TO DETERMINE APD SUBSTATION, WHICH IS KIND OF THE BASIC USE OF THE SITE COULD ACCOMMODATE FIRE EMS PROJECT.

AND SO, AS A RESULT OF ARTS, ACTUALLY, WE DID A STUDY OF THE SITE.

OF COURSE, DIDN'T LED TO US DOING A DESIGN PACKAGE FOR APB SUBSTATION.

UM, AND SO THE SITE IS KIND OF MASTER PLAN TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, 30.

A NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S MUCH FURTHER ALONG.

SO ON THE 16TH YEAR SITE, WE'LL DIVE INTO THE SITE PLAN, BUT IT'S A 16 ACRE SITE WITH THE ASTERICK THAT ONLY ABOUT THREE ACRES IS DEVELOPABLE.

SO ON THE SURFACE, THERE WAS THE FIRE AND HE MESSAGED, SHARED THE SITE EASILY.

BUT WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESTRICTIONS FROM IMPORT HIS COVER, I THINK BECOMES MUCH MORE TIGHT AS WE DID AN INITIAL STUDY THAT SAID, HEY, BOTH OF THESE CAN FIT.

AND IF WE DO A PARKING GARAGE, THAT'S RELATED TO THE PE AND THEN THIS WILL BE SHOWN THE NIGHTS, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE POLICE SUBSTATION, THE FIFTH FIRE EVICTION, WHICH YOU'LL SEE TO GET IT ON IN THE SITE PLANS START TO SIGN LATE THIS SUMMER AND WE'LL BE HERE SOMETIME DOWN THE LINE TO SHOW THAT STATION.

AND SO IT'S A 35,000 SQUARE FOOT, 40 SUBSTATION WITH AN ASSOCIATED 300 CAR PARKING GARAGE AND SITE AMENITIES AND, UH, FLOWING IN THERE.

UM, SO GO AHEAD.

UH, THE SITE IS ALSO GOT, IT'S GOT A MULTITUDE OF DEPARTMENTAL FACTOR, THE SCOUT OATH CHEAP, OR AS A HABITAT ON THEIR, UH, IN LOBSTER, UH, SITE CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S LIKE 30 PIECES LIKE THAT GOING TO HAPPEN THAT, AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S GOT A, UH, MAJOR, PREVIOUS COVER LIMITATION THAT REALLY RESTRICTS HOW MUCH OF THE STUFF IS DEVELOPED.

AND WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF HOW THIS POLICE SUBSTATION AND THE FIRE STATIONS HAVE KIND OF A PEDAL COMMON LIFE, I'LL PASS ON TO SCOTT TO WALK THROUGH A BIT MORE ABOUT THE SITE AND STATIONS INSIDE.

UM, SO THE, WHEN WE RAN INTO THIS PROPERTY PROFILE, UH, I GUESS THERE'S, UH, AN OLD RESTAURANT ON BACK LOWER SLIVER THAT LONG SKINNY SLIVER.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY PULL UP THAT PROFILE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY BOTH, UM, BOTH SITES YOU CAN READ AND IF YOU'RE SITTING THERE, UH, IT'S NOT , BUT, UM, I BELIEVE, UH, SO WE'RE COMBINING THOSE SITES AS PART OF THIS EFFORT.

UM, SO HERE IT IS RED.

I KIND OF SEE IT IN TREE LINE FORMS THAT SMALLER SLIPPER THERE, UM, JUST, UH, NORTH OF OUR SITE IS LIKE A OUTDOOR FURNITURE STORE.

AND GUESS WHAT STUDENTS HAVE SOME STORAGE ACROSS THE STREET ARE SOME LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

UM, NORTH OF THAT IS A CHURCH JUST SOUTH OF OUR SITE AND IS

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UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD THERE, UH, THAT POTENTIALLY TAPPING INTO WASTEWATER THINGS SLIDE.

SO JUST THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE.

UM, SO AISLE 6, 26, 20 IS A FOUR LANE ROAD, UH, SHOULDERS ON EITHER SIDE KIND OF HOPE YOU HAVE A CENTER SWAYS BY MIKE ROAD.

SOME OF THOSE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET THAT SUBDIVISION SOUTH OF US, UM, BESIDES SELF IS RIGHT NOW, UM, FAIRLY UNDEVELOPED THERE'S SOME BUILDINGS TOWARDS THE BACK, LIKE THE SITE REALLY TAPPING INTO, UM, THERE'S A HOUSE THAT I BELIEVE WAS A RESTAURANT SOUTH EAST, OR SO THIS IS SIX 20 ON OUR SIDE.

I'M LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET AND TOWARDS THE SITE.

UM, SO SEE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH OF A STREET PRESENCE.

THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY REGULAR ORIENTED SITE.

UM, A LOT OF THINGS ON THIS, UH, ROAD ARE PRETTY FAR SET BACK AND LEAST IN THIS PART OF SIX 20, UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THE SITE, THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH TO SEE, UH, IT'S POWER LINES AND, UH, GRASS SEES MEET THERE.

AND PRETTY MUCH IT TURNS INTO WOODS PRETTY QUICK AFTER THAT.

SO THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH, I BELIEVE THE NEXT IMAGE IS LOOKING MORE SLIDE.

UM, SO EXISTING CAN BE CONTEXT IS, IS KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE.

IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL SUBURBAN ACULAR, UM, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF US IS THAT BOTTOM.

WHAT'S AN IMAGE, WHICH IS ODDLY SUNKEN DOWN.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A, AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE ARCHITECTURE'S TANK CLOSER TO THE STREET.

THERE'S NOT A BIG BUMPER.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

DAMAGE IS TYPICAL BUILDING AND SEEN AS PART OF THE TOWN.

IT'S JUST A STORAGE FACILITY, STORAGE FACILITY, THE TOP BRIAN'S INSURANCE, WHICH HAS A MONUMENT SIGN CLOSE TO CLOSE TO SIX 20 WITH A DRIVEWAY LEADING KIND OF FURTHER BACK.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A CLOSE, CLOSER AND FARAWAY EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO DRIVE DOWN THIS ROAD.

UM, SO THIS, THIS SEEMS INTO THE SITE AND GOT CUTS AWAY THE PARTS THAT WERE ACUTE LOAN.

SO THIS SLIDE, THE NEXT SLIDE KIND OF ASSUMES IT INTO THE, TO THE ACTUAL, UH, PROJECT BOUNDARIES, MYTH.

UH, THIS JUST SHOWS YOU WHAT'S GOING ON THE SITE.

UH, IT'S MOSTLY FLAT UP TOWARDS SIX 20, WHICH IS ON THE INSIDE OF AIG.

UM, IT DROPS OFF AND YOU CAN KINDA SEE WHAT THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY INTO THE SITE.

SO, UM, ABOUT A LITTLE OVER HALFWAY THROUGH THE BUILDING IS WHEN IT STARTS TO GO DOWN.

SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE DID IN THE GARAGE.

SO I DON'T WORK WITH THE EXISTING ARMY TO GO INTO THE GARAGE.

IT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN KIND OF A HALF LEVEL.

UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, TO MAKE IT MOST EFFICIENT, TO NOT BUILD IT UP WITH A BUNCH OF SPILL OR SOMETHING.

BUILDING IS KIND OF TWO INTERSECTING FORMS. UH, THIS IS A VERY DEEP BUILDING, JUST WON'T BE SAT AT THE PD ROOM, LEARNED ABOUT HOW THEY USE THE SPACE.

UM, THEY PAY INHERENTLY NEEDS TO BE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, AND THERE THERE'S A LOT OF ADJACENCY PLAY.

SO THAT TALLER FORM ACTUALLY PICKS UP.

AND THERE'S, UM, THERE'S STORY THAT GETS LIGHT DEEP INTO THE BUILDING KIND OF IN THE ARC OF THE BUILDING FOR WINDOWS CAN'T EXIST.

UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS AN EFFORT TO DO IT BETTER.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

THESE ARE, WELL, THAT'S STILL UP THERE.

I REFERENCED THAT THE FIRE EMS STATION WILL BE ON THE SIDE.

IT'S THE SMALL RECTANGLE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THE IMAGE JUST GOES TO THE END.

THAT'S SORT OF THE FOOTPRINT OF WHERE DESIGN WITH PICKUP RELATE SOMEONE TO DESIGN THAT FIRING FIFTH FUNNEL SPOT IN THE PROJECTS, LEARNING THIS PROJECT.

AND THIS IS BURDEN AGAIN, WE WILL BRING THAT FIRE EMS STATION TO YOU WHEN THAT DESIGN IS UNDERWAY.

AND WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW YOU AS WELL, FROZEN FLIPPING THROUGH THE PAGES, BUT IT'S NOT.

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AND ANOTHER POINT TO NOTE ABOUT THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE IS THIS, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER ON A SITE IS A REAL CHALLENGE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TWO BUILDINGS.

UM, SO WE, WE LOOKED AT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT BROAD CONFIGURATIONS, A LOWER GARAGE WITH THREE DAYS, BUT ULTIMATELY, UM, WE KINDA WENT WITH THE TOP GARAGE.

SO THIS IS A CONTINUOUS RAMP THAT GOES UP AND THAT'S REALLY JUST A MINIMIZED FOOTPRINT, UM, REALLY OF EVERYTHING THAT THE GARAGE TO THE, UH, PAYMENT AROUND THE SITE, UM, AS WHAT ALL THIS, THE BUILDING SELVES TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.

UM, SO THERE'S A, THE TOP PART KIND OF COMES INTO THE VISITOR PARKING LOT THAT SERVICES IN PD, THE MIDDLE CURB CANDIDATE IS MEANT TO BE, UH, WORK I'VE BEEN TO WORK FOR BOTH FACILITIES.

SO THERE'S A PARKING LOT THAT GOES SOUTH, AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS IMPACT FUTURE PROJECTS.

THAT AGAIN, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, BUT, UM, AND THEN THROUGH, UH, A ROLLING GATE GETS DEEPER INTO THE SITE, JUST SECURE AREA.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GO INTO THE PARKING GARAGE.

AND THERE'S A FEW SPACES THERE.

UM, BELABOR DOING SOME BB OUT THERE AS WELL AS ADA.

THEY'VE GOT SOME SPACES INSIDE THE BUILDING THAT HAVE KIND OF FEATURES.

UM, THERE IS A WATER POND.

BAYER FOAM HAS KIND OF A LITTLE SHAPED SHAPED FORM THERE THAT'S OUR WATER TREATMENT POND SITES.

UM, THERE'S SPEAKS TO SEE HER AS HIS TREES THAT WE'RE KEEPING IN PLANNING A PROJECT AND AROUND SLIDE.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? WHAT YOU HAVE TO STUDY PARKING GARAGE FOR A FIRE STATION, THAT ONE LIKE THE GATED PARKING GARAGE FOR FIREFIGHTERS, OR ARE THEY NOT GOING TO USE THE PREMISES? NO, SO THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN LOT, UM, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN SURFACE LOT WITH ABOUT 20 SPACES AND IT'LL, IT'LL BE SIMILAR TO OUR OTHER FIRE STATIONS WITH ROLLING GAME.

THEY'LL USE THAT SAME SERVICE DRIVE, UH, BUT THEY WON'T, UH, THE PD ROOM.

THEY DON'T WANT TO FIRE AND PD SHARING SPACES.

SO THERE A BILL SHARE THAT DRIVE, BUT THEY'LL HAVE A SEPARATE ENTRANCE TO THE DEPARTMENT BOMB TO THE SOUTH, ASK A QUESTION THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE.

UM, YEAH, JUST SECURITY AND CONCERNS.

UM, THEY, THEY JUST DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY, IT'S JUST NOT LIKE SPACES LAWLESS ALLOW US FIXES.

SO THEY'LL THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN.

THAT WILL BE RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR, NO, THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T NEED TO PARK IN THAT GARAGE AND WALK TO THEIR PARK.

THEY'LL HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO BLOCK AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL ALLOCATED FOR IN THE EARLIEST COVER DECLARATIONS.

UM, SO THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN, A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT THE FRONT DOOR IS IT'S A COVERED ENTRANCE THERE, UH, WHICH HAS SEEN A RENDERING HERE.

AND, UM, IT'S KIND OF ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND PART OF THIS DRAWING THAT LEADS INTO A LOBBY SPACE, UH, THAT HAS A PUBLIC MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM.

UH, IT CAN ALSO BE A FLEX ROOM TO BE, UH, THAT'S JUST BELOW THE LOBBY BACK LEADS TENDED TO A SEMINAR SECURE OR, OR, OR ALERTS OR MEETING ROOMS, UH, VICTIM SERVICES.

UH, SO THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS THAT CORRIDOR BEHIND US.

YOU'RE, UH, GORE.

AND THEN BEYOND THAT REALLY GETS INTO THE, UH, 80 SPACE.

IT'S A COMBINATION OF OPEN OFFICE.

SO IT IS, UM, THERE'S OR ROOMS IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING WHERE THERE THERE'S THEIR STORY OF VERBS.

THOSE ARE THINGS STYLE SEATING.

SO THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, A LARGE OFFICE OF GROUPS THAT WORK TOGETHER, UH, AND THERE ARE SINGLE CLOSED OFFICES.

INTERIORS HAVE A LOT OF GLASS TO TRY TO GET THE DAYLIGHT DEEPER INTO THE SPACE.

IT'S WALKING BY A LARGE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOMS, UH,

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THAT THEY CALL SHOW UP AND SHOW DOWN.

SO THAT'S, I MEAN, FOR A SHIFT, YOU CAN USE THOSE TWO ROOMS AT THE TOP.

UH, THERE IS A SKYPE OLD DOOR THAT FOLDS UP INTO THE CEILING, UH, AND PROVIDES WHO STICKS BETWEEN THE TWO WHEN IT'S DOWN, BUT THEY COULDN'T, THEY NEEDED TO HAVE LIKE AN ALL HANDS ON DECK KIND OF MEETING.

UM, THAT'S A FLEXIBLE SPACE THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO QUILTS NOW WHERE THIS WALL CAN FOLD AND BECOME OUR SPACE.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S A LARGE GEAR STORAGE ROOM.

SO HE SEARCHED OUT A BLOCK ROAD WAS THAT'S WHERE THEIR GEAR IS THAT THEY'D KIND OF COME THEIR FIRST AND LAST PART OF THE DAY, THEIR SHOWERS JASON'S THE BASS PHASE PLAN.

THIS OUT WITH THAT KIND OF A WHITE EMPTY AREA IS A FITNESS ROAD.

IT HAS A LARGE GLASS WALL, AND IT LOOKS DOWN TO RELATE UP A REALLY WHAT SHOULD THE UNDER ACTIVITY, OLD TREES AND PLANTING.

UM, THERE WAS A PORCH WITH A STAIR AND A RAMP YOU CAN SEE NOW, UM, PLANTS OUT.

IT IS A SERIES OF STORAGE AND EVIDENCE, UH, ROOMS AS WELL AS A LARGE BREAK ROOM ROOMS, KIND OF THEIR BOTTOM CENTER, SORRY.

UH, THIS JUST SHOWS THE GARAGE.

SOMEBODY COME INTO THE GARAGE, THE RAMPS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU CAN DRIVE STRAIGHT UP, TAKE A RIGHT.

AND HE GOES DOWN, I BELIEVE, FIVE OR SO FEET.

UM, THERE IS A BIT OF AN INFILL SPOT THERE AT THE BOTTOM AND THE WHITE BOX IS A PLAN.

UM, AND THAT WAS JUST PROPOSED TO KIND OF USING THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE DEPARTMENT MEET AND GREET A LARGE STORAGE SPACE FOR THEM THAT WAS IN THEIR PROGRAM.

UM, OTHERWISE IT'S EMBRACED SIMPLE, EFFICIENT PARKING GARAGE PRE-TASK STRUCTURE, UH, TO KEEP THE COST EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.

UM, SO THE NATURE OF THE SITE, UM, WE STARTED WORKING ON THE EXTERIOR DESIGNS BUILDING.

UM, WE SHOWED THE CREW OF CITY STAFF AND PD STAFF, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND ULTIMATELY WE WERE REALLY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AND HAPPY THEY CHOSE THIS ONE.

SO THIS WAS KIND OF A BIOFILM, UH, OPTION, UH, AND, UH, A FEW DIFFERENT GOALS WITH THIS EXTERIOR DESIGN WHAT'S TO REALLY HAVE A, UH, SOFT AND INVITING THE BUILDING LIKE COMMUNITY HE'S CAN BE A SCARY PLACES IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO THEM AS A CITIZEN, UM, SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT YOUR BEST DAY.

UM, SO WE, WE WANTED TO HAVE INVITING SOFT BUILDING.

THAT'S SAD, A GOOD DISTANCE FROM THE ROAD, NOT SUPER FAR BACK, RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT.

UM, SO REALLY, UH, HAVING THIS BUILDING FEELS LIKE IT'S OPENING OUT AND COMMUNITY.

UM, SO THIS, THIS BIOPHILIC SCREEN WILL BE A NATURAL WOOD SCREEN, SOME METAL ELEMENTS, UM, SLIDE OTHER MATERIALS ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

SO THAT SCREEN RAMPS, THE SOUTH AND EAST FACADES, UM, THE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM AS B IS BEHIND THAT SCREEN, AS WELL AS A PART OF THE LOBBY AND SOME OTHER, I BELIEVE THAT THEM SERVICES IT'S ALSO BEHIND THE SCREEN, UM, OTHER MATERIALS, AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO EXTEND THAT NATURAL THEMES.

THERE'S A NATURAL LIMESTONE, WHICH IS A BAD STONE.

YOU SEE UNDER THE WINDOW, THAT WINDOW IS, WINDOW IS THE WAY IT IS DUE TO WHERE THE OFFICER'S OFFICES FELL OUT AND PLAN.

UM, THEY WANTED TO HAVE DAYLIGHT, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, DIRECT YOU OUT.

SO THAT WINDOW STARTS AT SIX FEET AND IT GOES TO 10 FEET.

SO IT GIVES THEM, I STAY ALIVE WITHOUT SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, A SIT, SEE YOU SITTING IN YOUR OFFICE, UM, ABOVE AND TO THE SIDE OF THAT MUNDO IS, UH, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO NAIL THAT ONE DOWN WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE A PROPER KIND OF BROWNISH RED SANDSTONE, AGAIN, KIND OF EXTENDING THE OAK COUNTRY, TEXAS STONE.

UM, AND THEN ANCILLARY MATERIALS ARE IN COORDINATED METAL PANEL, AS WELL AS, UH, A SILVER ACM PANEL THAT ACCESS TO TRIM FOR THE SCREEN.

AND THIS WOULD BE IF YOU'RE DRIVING INTO, FROM THE, UH, INTO THE VISITOR PARKING, IS IT TO BE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD BE KIND OF ON THE EDGE OF WHERE 60 STARTS? UM, AND THEN JUST ONE MORE SHOT OF THE BUILDING AT NIGHT.

SO THE BIODEX SCREEN KIND OF APPEAR SOLID IN NATURE, THE DAYTIME, AND THEN AT NIGHT, THE BUILDING KIND OF REALLY BLOWS YOU.

SEE, AGAIN, WE WERE REALLY WANTING THIS TO BE KIND OF A BEACON, A LANTERN, IF YOU WILL,

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OR THE COMMUNITY AS A DRIVER ASS.

UM, IF THIS IS A BUILDING YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE CLEARLY MARKED OR EVEN HELP SLOW.

I ALSO TRYING TO PROTECT ITS CAUSE BEEN PROBATE, PREVIOUS RECOVERY OF RESTRICTIONS.

WE TRIED TO KEEP EVERYTHING PRETTY TIGHT.

I'M NOT SPECKED.

IT ALSO BROUGHT TO THE NATURE OF THE WOOD INSIGHTS.

UM, I, TO KEEP AS MANY NATURAL AREAS AS POSSIBLE.

UM, WE WOULDN'T BE MINDFUL OF, UH, EXISTING TREE CANOPY AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR THE PROPERTY IN TERMS OF FIRE.

UH, SO THERE WILL BE SOME THINNING AND DEADWOOD THE EXISTING, UM, THERE'S THAT AREA TO THE FRONT OF THE, UH, TO THE PARKING LOT IN THE BUILDING.

IT'S THREE TEST TO MY EYESIGHT.

UM, WE HAVE A PLANTED AREA WITH A SERIES OF LIMESTONE BLOCKS.

WE WERE JUST LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT WAYS OF JUST CREATING, UM, LAYER FOR THE BUILDING, UM, THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED AND NOT JUST WITH THE BALLER, UM, WRAPPING AROUND TOO.

I THINK THERE'S THE TWO MOST SIGNIFICANT FEATURES IN THE LANDSCAPE ART OR NOT IT'S NUMBER NINE THERE'S IS DIRECTLY, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THE LAKE KIND OF PINKISH COLOR AND IS A SHADE STRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE OFFICERS TO DO WITH SPACE TO GET OUTSIDE, TAKE BREAK.

AND THEN NUMBER 11 IS AFTER BUSINESS AREA, UH, THAT IS THE WOODS.

UH, NUMBER 10 IS A, UH, A TRACK IF YOU WILL, THAT GOES AROUND, UH, THE PARKING LOT.

SO TO GO TRAINING ENOUGH, TAKING A RUN AND THEN THE SHARED DRIVE AWAY, UH, IS TREAT MY INTERVIEWS THAT WE'VE PLANTED IN A SLIGHTLY MORE CATHERINE BIGGER NOT TO FIND OUT, UM, AND WITH THE MIX OF SPECIES.

AND THEN THERE'S A FEW AREAS OF RESERVED AREA.

UM, IT'S KIND OF THE PERIOD BETWEEN THE, THE PAIN DRIVE IN THE BUILDING ITSELF.

WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP THE AREAS WITH THAT'S.

UH, THIS IS THE SHAPE STRUCTURE, THE BREAK AREA THAT I MENTIONED, UM, GOOD SHADE COVER.

UH, WE TOOK A PLANTED BUMPER BETWEEN THAT AND PARKING THAT'S.

IT'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT.

THIS SITE'S LOCATION, LIKE NOT ARRANGED FARM SHUTTERED, OR ALSO STRUGGLES WITH THE PSYCH LOCATION OF THE TRANSIT AND OTHER THINGS.

SO IT DOESN'T SCORE FOR WORLD WELL THERE.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 50 POINTS TO THE GUESTS GET A FEW OF OUR HIGH MAYBES, WHICH I THINK I CAN SAY FOR BUREAU THEM, THAT'S LIKE NINE POINTS, UM, TO GET A LITTLE BUFFER ZONE FOR THE LEAD SILVER, UH, WE ARE GOING TO DO SOLAR ON THE APD BUILDING GROOVE, AND THAT'S IN THESE CALCULATIONS.

ALSO, THIS ISN'T AUSTIN ENERGY TERRITORY, IT'S, UH, PCS, WHICH HURTS US A LITTLE BIT ON THE ACCESS TO GREEN POWER OFFSETS.

AND WE ARE LOOKING AT, IN CAMPUS APPROACH SUCH THAT FIRE AND EMS COULDN'T, UM, TAKE SOME ADVANTAGE OF CANVAS APPROACH.

YOU SHOULD HAVE TO TAKE PROJECTS.

WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT AGEE AND OKAY WITH THE CITY'S SUSTAINABILITY STAFF, IT'S BESIDE THAT THE SILVER WILL THE AVENUE AND, UH, SECRETLY SILVER WITH A LITTLE BIT OF WORK FOR SOME BUFFER ZONE TO GET THERE.

UM, LET ME RECAP, JUST TO EXCUSE THINGS OF THAT IS THE PAY THING AS TICKS OF THE PROJECT.

I MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE FIFTH FIRE STATION WILL GO ON THIS SITE AND WE START DESIGN ON THAT IN LATE SUMMER.

SO FAIRLY SOON WE'RE GOING TO WRAP UP THE DESIGN OF THE APD SUBSTATION AND ABB WILL DIDN'T SEEK FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT.

SO THIS PROJECT CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE IS NOT FULLY KNOWN, BUT LIKELY, BUT THAT FIRING THIS WILL GET BUILT IN THE SHORT TERM AND THAT'S A SUBSTATION, BUT FOLLOW, UH, ONCE THEY HAD FUNDING.

SO THERE'S A, IT'S SORT OF A LOGISTICAL PHASING,

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A RELEVANT SITE, UH, AND THOSE STUDENTS WILL BE SITTING THERE AT OFF SITE.

AND SO THE QUESTIONS THAT'S, I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE EDB CHARGING STATIONS.

IS IT HER BLOND VISITOR LOSS FLOP? THAT'S HERE IN THE BUILDING AND THIS, AND I BELIEVE I'M A BUNCH OF RUNNING AS WELL AS, AS THEY EXPAND AND CHANGE THEIR FLEET.

UM, A QUESTION, BUT JUST A SHOUT OUT.

UM, I THINK SOMETIMES ON GREEN BUILDINGS, IT'S REALLY HARD TO IDENTIFY THAT IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS YOU SPOKE WITH YOUR BIOPHILIC DESIGN.

IT'S VERY EASY TO TAKE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THREE JOBS.

GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING THEM.

IT'S COOL THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T GET YOU ANY LEAD POINTS FOR DOING THAT.

IT JUST KIND OF TIES THE DESIGN TOGETHER WITH WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO.

SUSTAINABILITY WISE.

GREAT, GREAT JOB.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAST ENERGY SERVICES.

COULD YOU GO MORE INTO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO AND IS THERE SORT OF ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY? SO SINCE WE'RE GOING TO GET SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF OF THE POLICE STATIONS, BRUCE, UM, THAT WILL, UH, GET ALL THE AVAILABLE POINTS FOR SOLAR, UH, ONSITE INTERVIEW FOR DEDUCTION.

AND A LOT.

BUT WHEN BEN WAS DOING BACK IN FRONT OF THE TEXT OF THE FIVE STATIONS AND THIS SUBSTATION, WE TALKED ABOUT, GOODNIGHT, RANCH IT'S GETS STOLEN OR DAVENPORT RANDOMS IS THE THIRD STATION IS, OR A LITTLE BIT LATE IN THE DESIGN.

SO IT REALLY SILVER TO SORT OF GETTING AN INTEGRATED INTO THE THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH, OUR STATION AND THIS SUBSTATION.

AND SO THERE IS A BIT MORE BROAD DEPLOYMENT OF SOLAR BOSS, THIS BASKET OF PROJECTS, AND THEN THE LEAD REALITIES OF BOTH GOODNIGHT RANCHING AND THIS SITE TO CANYON CREEK SITE SOLAR IS BEING VERY HELPFUL, ALMOST BIBLE.

SO GIVEN THAT THESE TWO SITES STRUGGLE WITH THEIR AMENITIES AND ACCESS TO TRANSIT AND THINGS THAT HEARD IT ALMOST SITE SELECTION.

GOTCHA.

BUT YOU MAY MADE, IT MAY HAVE BEEN POURED OUT THE LEAD AND STUFF, BUT DAVID DETAILS, BUT WHAT ABOUT WATER REUSE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IT SEE ANY SORT OF LIKE TANK TO CAPTURE.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A TEAM ON THIS, UM, FLIES LADDER OF TRAILERS BREAKS FOR IT IN THE RIGHT.

AND I THINK THERE'S, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SITTING THERE AT 50 POINTS NOW WITH COMPETING A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER ZONE.

UM, AND SO IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT, UM, THE TEAM DISCUSSED IT? YES, BUT IT'S NOT IN THERE.

WHAT'S ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WHY, UH, CHRIS, I CAN, I CAN TAKE THIS OVER IF YOU WANT ME TO GO FOR, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO HELP IN THIS REGARD, THE CITY, UM, DOESN'T HAVE A WAY DOESN'T HAVE OPERATIONAL ABILITY OR PEOPLE DEVOTED TO ENSURING THAT THOSE KINDS OF SYSTEMS CONTINUE OPERATING AFTER THEY ARE INSTALLED.

AND SO WE FIND THAT THEY OFTEN JUST GET ABANDONED AND FAIRLY QUICKLY DON'T WORK ANYMORE.

AND THAT'S KIND OF A SHAME TO PUT SOMETHING IN LIKE THAT AND NOT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT.

SO THOSE OFTEN ARE NOT ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WE TRY TO CHASE IN OUR LEAD OR SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS.

SO IT'S AN OPERATION THAT MAN'S ISSUE, I GUESS THERE'S, THERE'S AN OWN ADMISSION THAT THE CITY IS JUST BACKING THERE.

IT FALLS UPON, FOR INSTANCE, THE FIRE EMS STATIONS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT FALLS UPON THE FIREFIGHTERS OR THE EMS TECHNICIANS AT THE SITE TO RUN AND OPERATE THOSE, UM, RECYCLING SYSTEMS, THOSE WATER SYSTEMS. AND THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO.

AND WE DON'T HAVE, UH, OTHER STAFF OR ANYONE ELSE DEVOTED AT THE CITY TO DOING THAT.

SO WE, WE JUST DON'T FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.

WE COULD, AND WE COULD PUT IT IN, BUT THEY JUST DON'T LAST VERY LONG.

IT'S A HEROIN ELEVATION.

UM, COOL.

AND THAT'S, I BUILD ON THE WATER STORY.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT

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PRODUCTION AS WELL.

UM, AND, UM, OUTDOOR THESE REDUCTION ON, YEAH, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'RE STRUGGLING TO GET ALL THE POINTS FOR OUTDOOR WATER USE REDUCTION AND THE REGIONAL PRIORITY POINTS WHERE OUTDOOR, WHAT ARE USED PRODUCTION.

SO JUST LIKE THE GENERAL BROAD WATER STORY, UM, WHETHER IT'S RIGHT, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WATER WE USE, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM AT THIS POINT TO BE PRUDENT, TO PUT A, UH, A RAINWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT IRRIGATES THE SITE THAT JUST DOESN'T, IT'S NOT MAINTAINED WELL, HOW, HOW DO YOU GET THE POINTS AND THE WATER USE REDUCTION? IS THAT THROUGH THE, THE, THE FIXTURES THAT YOU SPECIFIED? I THINK THAT'S A BIG FACTOR.

WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE FIXTURES BEING EVEN MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN SORT OF WHERE THEY ARE LIKE NOW I THINK, I THINK THE DEBATE IS, DOES THAT SLIP A LITTLE TOO FAR INTO USING SOLAR WATER AND THE PINTEREST CONCERNS ABOUT IT, THAT USER OR THE OWNER OR APD? UM, UM, I BELIEVE WE'RE DOING COMPETENCY CAPTURING.

WE JUST DON'T NEED A TANK FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT.

SO WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THINGS, MAYBE ONE MORE NOTCH, RESTRICTIVE PLUMBING OR A NEWS FLOW.

I DON'T KNOW THAT DISCUSSION.

I WOULD JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU LEFT, IF YOU INSTALL A SYSTEM, JUST DID IT JUST YET.

I COULD READY TO GO CITY DECIDES TO FIGURE OUT THE O AND M CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE, THAT MORE HOLISTIC VIEW.

UM, THEY CAN GET YOU A BETTER, IT SEEMS A SHAME.

I THINK THAT'S A BIGGER LAST GEN FOR THE CITY IN GENERAL.

AND I, WELL, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE DONE THOSE BEFORE.

THEY ARE, THERE ARE SYSTEMS AROUND THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED THAT ARE NOT OPERATING AND THAT'S A SHAME ALSO.

SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A HIGHER LEVEL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THOSE OR NOT.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION AND, YOU KNOW, THE LAST PRESENTATION WE HAD ABOUT STRUCTURED PARKING AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S REALLY COOL.

I THINK YOU ALL SOLUTION TO THIS PROJECT, IT'S GREAT FOR A REAL SUBURBAN KIND OF ENVIRONMENT.

UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE SLIDE 15 THOUGH, IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR TO ME WHAT THE GARAGE LOOKS LIKE, HOW, HOW TALL IT IS, HOW MANY LEVELS IS IT? YOU KNOW, HOW MANY SPACES ARE YOU PROVIDING? CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 15 AND KIND OF, UH, UH, SHOW ME WHAT PART OF THAT IS THE GARAGE AND WHAT PART IS THE BUILDING ITSELF? SLIDE 15, I THINK WAS, YEAH, WELL, I RECENTLY READ IT WRONG.

IT'S THREE STORIES.

WELL, YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE DOWN TO YOU KEEP GOING DOWN.

SO IT'S THE NUMBER IN THE TOP RIGHT-HAND CORNER OF THE SHEET.

WELL THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

CAN WE START PROBABLY AROUND 300 SPACES? THAT'S RIGHT.

IT, YEAH.

SO IT'S THE PART THAT HAS THE KIND OF THE WOODS, THE WOOD KIND OF PANT A PATTERN ON IT? NO EDGY, NO.

PARKING LOT OPEN TO THE SKY AND ON RUTH, UH, THESE STORIES, SO 30 PLUS FEET TO THE MAJOR ELEMENTS.

SO IT IS, UH, THREE LEVELS, UH, AT ABOUT 11, SORRY, NOT 11 FOOT FLOOR TO FLOOR THREE LEVELS.

UM, PRECAST CONCRETE WITH, UH, IT IS METAL AND THERE'S SOME, YEAH.

SO THE, THE, UM, SIDE THEIR FACES, I APOLOGIZE.

WHAT SHOULD HAVE, UM, BESIDE THAT FACES THE STREET, IT IS QUITE A BIT ARE BACK FROM THE STREET THAT FACES THE STREET IS THERE'S METAL MESH PANELS ABOVE THE ENTRANCE.

NOW THE SIDES IS THE, IT'S THE SAME LIMESTONE MATERIAL IT'S ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THOSE WRAP A LITTLE WAYS.

AND THEN BEYOND THAT, IT'S A STAMPED THREE TASKS ON BRIEF.

UM, AND ONE THAT KIND OF HAS A SIMILAR, UM, ORGANIC FEATURES WITH, BUT AGAIN, THAT IS A, QUITE A BIT OF A BOOK IT'S BE ON THE STREET.

UM, WE DID STUDY AGAIN THE DIFFERENT FOOTPRINTS OF THE GARAGE.

UM, ORIGINALLY WE HAD IT IN THREE BAY, ROGER'S TWO STORIES, BUT IT WAS JUST, THE PROJECT WAS NOT FEASIBLE AS A WHOLE DUE TO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER.

SO WE WERE REALLY FORCED TO GO UP TO THE THREE STORIES.

UH, THERE IS NOT A WAY TO FUND THE GARAGE.

WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT BACK FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BUT, UM, SO IT'S, IT IS A

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IT IS SURROUNDED BY TREES.

SO YEAH, WHAT DO ALL PART NUMBERS, WHATEVER THE COST IS, BUT SOBER UP THERE.

WE DO KNOW THAT WE DO MORE THAN BALLPARK ON THIS.

WE ACTUALLY STUDIED THIS.

GO AHEAD, SCOTT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS IN BERLIN.

YOU PROBABLY KNOW.

I THINK IT WAS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK TWO AND A HALF MILLION.

IT'S A BATTLE.

I THINK, NO, I THINK IT WAS MORE LIKE THREE AND A HALF AND 4 MILLION TO PUT THAT TOP LEVEL OF, UH, SHADING AND, UH, P PHOTOVOLTAIC PANELS UP THERE ON THAT PARKING GARAGE IT'S WAS ENOUGH TO CAUSE US TO CHOKE DRAMATICALLY ABOUT THE COST OF IT.

AND WE CHOSE NOT TO DO THE COLUMNS TO BEANS, TO PUT THOSE PANELS ON.

SO A LOT OF COSTUMES, IT SURPRISED US HOW MUCH IT DIDN'T PACK THEM TO START FOR THE GARAGE.

UM, SO THE FIRST THOUGHT WAS TO DOUBLE DUTY, THE PB NAILS OVER THE GARAGE, UM, TO HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, SHAPING THE CARS AS WELL AS KEEP THEM, UH, AND ULTIMATELY WE ENDED UP WITH BEING ON TOP OF E-BILLING.

WELL, THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE.

YOU CAN USE MORE OR LESS JUST TO SPREAD MORE TYPICAL BOMB SHELTER, PHOTOVOLTAIC STRUCTURE THAT JUST USES THE WORD.

SORRY TO SPEAK MY LAST QUESTION.

AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND NOT SHARING.

SO I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS I'M OVER THAT PART OF TOWN, UM, AND WANT TO LEAVE THAT HANGING OUT.

WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE, JUST HAVE SECURITY, UH, CONCERNS WHEN WE HAVE, UH, FACILITIES LIKE, UH, OUR EQUIPMENT THAT STORE BACK THERE, YOU DON'T HAVE.

UM, IF IT'S JUST OPEN TO THE FIREFIGHTERS WHILE WE TRUST THEM THERE, WHAT WOULD SAY TO YOU JUST LIKE WE ARE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME SECURITY CLEARANCE THAT WE HAVE.

WE ALSO HAVE THE JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS TO GET PAST LOCKED GATES AND FIREFIGHTERS JUST DON'T HAVE THAT AND WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND GET IT OR FILE THAT FIREFIGHTER QUALIFIED TO BE ABLE TO GO PASS IT, WHICH CASE ON US, EVERY TIME WE OPEN THAT GATE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN OFFICER THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE.

OH, IT'S A SECURE FACILITY AND WE LOVE OUR FIREFIGHTER.

UH, CAN WE EVEN FUNCTION TO, OH, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABLY SET STANDARDS.

UM, AND ALL IN FAVOR, JUST TO FREAK IT, TO LOOK INTO THE WATER REQUIREMENTS WHO WERE DISCUSSING ACCEPTED IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND WAS THERE ANYBODY THAT SITS TODAY? GOOD.

ABOUT THE DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE PLAN.

YOU BET ON ASLEEP CLASSES.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

I DON'T THINK

[1.d. Briefing and discussion relating to the Palm District Planning Initiative, to be presented by Mark Walters – City of Austin, Housing and Planning Department]

LET'S TAKE YOUR PLANNING PRESENTED BY THAT WALL FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON.

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE IF YOU COULD, UH, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR VIDEO USING THE BAR AT THE BOTTOM AND SHOULD BE FIRST TWO BUTTONS THERE? YES.

WELL, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MARK WALTERS.

I'M A PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING A BRIEFING ON THE PALM PLANNING HOME DISTRICT PLANNING INITIATIVE.

SO DO I JUST SHARE MY CONTENT? OKAY, HERE WE GO.

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SO, UH, TONIGHT'S UH, DURING THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PLANNING PROCESS SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY DURING THE VISIONING PHASE OF THE PROJECT, PRESENTED A PREVIEW OF THE DRESS VISION FRAMEWORK, AND TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

THE GOAL OF THE PALM DISTRICT PLANNING INITIATIVE IS TO ENGAGE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE PUBLIC TO DEVELOP A SHARED VISION FOR AN AREA OF DOWNTOWN.

THAT HAS A RICH HISTORY THAT WE KNOW IS EVOLVING.

THE PHONE DISTRICT HAS GENERALLY BOUNDED BY 15TH STREET TO THE NORTH ON THE EAST LADY BIRD LAKE ON THE SOUTH AND TRINITY STREET ON THE WEST.

IN ADDITION TO INITIATING A PLANNING PROCESS, THE RESOLUTION THAT ADOPTED THE CITY CAMP THAT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2019, PROVIDED DIRECTION ON SEVERAL ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD INDEPENDENTLY.

THE PLANNING PROCESS IS INFORMED BY AND WILL INFORM OTHER WORK REFERENCED IN THE RESOLUTION.

AND IN CASE ANYONE'S INTERESTED, IT WAS A 27 PAGE RESOLUTION.

SO IT IS A VERY LONG READ.

THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS.

THE PLANNING PROCESS IS SUPPORTED PRIMARILY BY STAFF, WITHIN THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THERE'S ALSO RECEIVING SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT AND COORDINATION FROM A HOST OF ADDITIONAL CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO ARE ENTERTAINING, WHO ARE UNDERTAKING MAJOR WORK IN THE AREA.

THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS WITH INTEREST IN THIS AREA WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR FAIRLY CLOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE, WATERLOO GREENWAY, TRAVIS COUNTY CAP, METRO, THE AIA AUSTIN, AND AI NATIONAL, AS WELL AS THE UT SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH US ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT.

OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, WE'VE WORKED TO ENGAGE STAKEHOLDERS, UNDERSTAND EXISTING CONDITIONS, SUPPORT COORDINATION OF RELATED INITIATIVES, AND BEGIN TO DEVELOP A SHARED VISION FOR THE DISTRICT THAT BUILDS UPON THE WORK ALREADY UNDERWAY.

WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY RELEASED AN EXISTING CONDITIONS REPORT AND A LISTENING REPORT, AND LOOK FORWARD TO RELEASING A DRAFT VISION FRAMEWORK SOON.

RIGHT? SO I MEAN THE FRAMEWORK HAS ALREADY OUT THE VISION MAY BE COMING SOONER OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.

WE WILL SEEK FEEDBACK ON THAT DRAFT VISION FRAMEWORK AND DIVE INTO AN ANALYSIS OF OPTIONS AND DETAILED PLANNING WORK.

THIS WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD TO, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SMALL AREA PLAN FOR THE PALM DISTRICT AND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN.

WHEN WE HOPE TO PRESENT THIS PLAN TO COUNCIL THIS SUMMER, WE WILL NOW SHARE A BRIEF VIDEO THAT PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE PALM DISTRICT AND THE DRAFT VISION FRAMEWORK FOR THE AREA AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE VIDEO.

UH, I'LL GO IN AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES OVER THE PAST YEAR.

LET'S HOPE MARK.

I HAVEN'T QUEUED UP TO PLAY HERE.

I'M PARDON? GARNER.

I HAVEN'T QUEUED UP.

UH, THE SOUND IS PRETTY LOW FOR YOUR SHARING, SO ALL.

SO ARE WE BACK? CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND WE'LL SWITCH BACK AND FORTH.

WHEN DONE.

DO I NEED TO UNSHARE? NO, I THINK I CAN DO.

I THINK WE'RE MISSING SOME AUDIO THERE.

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UH, ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE GUNNER'S WORK ON THIS.

HE WAS THE PRIMARY EDITOR SHOT MOST OF THE FOOTAGE AND DID A LOT OF THE WRITING FOR THAT VIDEO AND HE DID A REALLY GREAT JOB, AMY, GET BACK TO THE QUESTION.

SO CAN YOU SEE MY PRESENTATION? CAUSE I CAN'T SEEM TO GET IT BACK.

I'M GOING TO GO NEXT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHARE.

DURING THE VISIONING FORUMS HELD IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD AN INTERACTIVE BREAKOUT DISCUSSION RECEIVED 372 COMMENTS ABOUT HOW FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DISTRICT EVOLVE OVER TIME.

SO WHAT DID WE HEAR IN THE EARLY PARTS OF HER PROCESS? WELL, THE SPEAK UP, UH, AUSTIN PAGE, THE PROJECT IS THAT OVER 3,600 VISITS, WE HAD 337 RESPONSES, 151 PEOPLE ATTENDED OUR VISION FORUMS AND WE DID SOME TARGETED OUTREACH TO EAST AUSTIN, BUT 75 INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS.

WE HAD A, A ROUTE AT LIGHT, UH, AI EVENT.

WE HAD OVER 60 PEOPLE.

WE HAD 23 RESPONSES ON OUR, UH, OUR, UH, INTERACTIVE MAPPING EXERCISE.

SO THROUGH OUR SURVEY, WE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE HISTORIC TIES TO THE DISTRICT.

AND OUR SURVEY RESPONSES REPRESENTED 55% INDIVIDUALS WHO IDENTIFY AS HISPANIC OR LATIN X.

WE ALSO HEARD FOLKS FROM RURAL ACROSS A WIDE RANGE OF INCOMES AND GENDERS SURVEY RESPONDENTS REPORTED THAT THEIR FAVORITE ASPECTS OF THE DISTRICT WERE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES, WALKABILITY AND NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT AMONG HISPANIC AND LATIN X RESPONSES.

FAVORITE ASPECTS OF THE DIFFERENCE WERE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES, FAMILY-FRIENDLY EVENTS AND SPECIAL EVENTS AND FESTIVALS SURVEY RESPONDENTS REPORTED THAT THEIR LEAST FAVORITE ASPECTS OF THE DISTRICTS WERE CLEANLINESS, PERSONAL SAFETY AND PARKING THAT THE CLAIM, THIS WAS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN AMONG HISPANIC AND LATIN X RESPONSES.

THESE FAVORITE ASPECTS WERE ALSO PARKING PERSONAL SAFETY AND CLEANLINESS, BUT PARKING WAS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN.

WE ALSO GOT, UH, SOME OPEN-ENDED RESPONSES, UH, INSIDE THROUGH DETAILED OPEN-ENDED RESPONSES THAT FOLKS PROVIDED TO THE SURVEY.

THESE OPEN-ENDED RESPONSES ARE INCLUDED IN THE LISTENING REPORT, BUT INCLUDE INPUT LIKE THIS ONE FOCUSED ON THE IMPORTANCE OF PLACE, KEEPING AND CULTURAL RESOURCE PRESERVATION.

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THIS WORD CLOUD SHOWS THE WORTH THAT CAME THE WORDS THAT CAME UP MOST COMMON IN THE DISCUSSION.

IN ADDITION TO PALM DISTRICT HISTORY, PEOPLE, COMMUNITY CULTURAL SPACES WERE ALL PRETTY UNIVERSALLY IMPORTANT ACROSS ALL PARTICIPANTS, INDIVIDUAL INTERVIEWS AND FOCUS GROUP DISCUSSIONS, OUR CONSULTANT, MARTHA CUTERA AND HER TEAM REACHED OUT TO A VARIETY OF KEY ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING EAST AUSTIN, MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, AND THOSE CULTURAL TIES TO THE DISTRICT.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ALSO SHARED IN DETAIL IN THE LISTENING REPORT, BUT FOCUSED ON THINGS LIKE THE DESIRE TO DEVELOP PALM SCHOOL IN PALM PARK IN TANDEM, IT MAKES SPACE FOR CULTURAL PROGRAMMING, SUPPORTING THE MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THE DESIRE TO TELL THE STORY OF THE HISTORY OF THE RAINY STREET NEIGHBORHOOD AND INTEREST IN SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT OF A MEXICAN AMERICAN HEALTH HERITAGE CORRIDOR AND THE DESIRE TO SEE MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL ASPECTS OF THE DISTRICT ELEVATED SO THAT THE DISTRICT BECOMES A DESTINATION FOR CULTURAL EVENTS, SEVERAL COMMENTS FOCUSED THE INTEREST AND SEEING THE INNOVATION DISTRICT SUPPORT EQUITY AND INCLUSION THROUGH THINGS LIKE TARGETING PROGRAMS, PROVIDE SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL.

IN LATE 2019, WE SUCCESSFULLY APPLIED FOR THE ASSISTANCE OR ASSISTANCE FROM THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS COMMITTEE BY DESIGN PROGRAM.

AND IN FEBRUARY, 2020, WE HOSTED THE AIA TEAM FOR A SUCCESSFUL ORIENTATION VISIT TO AUSTIN.

WELL, UM, SOMETHING HAPPENED SOON THEREAFTER AND OUR PLAN TO HOST AN AIA REGIONAL URBAN DESIGN ASSISTANCE TEAM.

WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER VIRTUALLY IN 2021, THESE FOLKS WHO ATTENDED AND WE HAD A VISION FORUMS AND ASSEMBLED A TEAM PARTICIPATE IN A SERIES OF VIRTUAL ACTIVITIES OVER THE LAST WEEKEND IN JULY, WHICH LED TO THE RELEASE OF AI RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE AIA BROUGHT A FANTASTIC TEAM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE VIRTUAL ACTIVITIES THAT INCLUDED EXPERTS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO RIGHTED THIS SUPPORT PRO BONO, ALL THE AA HAD MANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UH, SHARED THEIR OWN REPORT THAT THEY SHARED IN THEIR OWN REPORT, AS WELL AS WITHIN THE LISTENING REPORT, KEY IDEAS THAT INCLUDED BEING SUPER INTENTIONAL WITH CULTURE AND PLACE-MAKING THROUGH PUBLIC ART AND LEVERAGING PUBLICLY CONTROLLED OPPORTUNITIES SITES TO ACHIEVE THIS VISION.

BUT PERHAPS THE MOST RESOUNDING RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND ANALYSIS AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION GATHERED THROUGH THE VISIONING PHASE OF THIS PROCESS.

THE PROJECT TEAM HAS DEVELOPED A DRAFT VISION FRAMEWORK THAT WILL BE RELEASED FOR PUBLIC.

IT HAS BEEN RELEASED FOR THE PUBLIC.

WE MEAN THE WORD DRAFT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO RECEIVING RIGOROUS FEEDBACK ON THE FRAMEWORK BEFORE EVALUATING FUTURE SCENARIOS AND DEVELOPING A DETAILED PLAN OF HOW WE GOT THERE.

THE OVERARCHING VISION FOR THE PALM DISTRICT IS THAT IT BECOME A VIBRANT HISTORIC HUB OF DOWNTOWN WHERE THE PAST IS HONORED.

CULTURAL CULTURE IS CELEBRATED AND THE FUTURE IS SHAPED.

AND THIS VISION RELIES ON BALANCING INHERENT CONFLICTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS THE TENSIONS TO SUPPORT THE ONGOING DYNAMICISM OF THE PLACE, DENSE TRANSIT, ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, BALANCED WITH HISTORY AND NATURAL SPACES, A DYNAMIC PLACE GROWING AND EVOLVING WHILE ACTIVELY SERVING FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS.

WE HAVE HISTORICALLY CALLED THE PLACE HOME AND CULTIVATING CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION.

THE FIRST ELEMENT OF THE VISION LOOKS AT THE INCH THAT ENSURING THAT GROWTH AND THE DISTRICT WILL PROVIDE A PROSPEROUS FUTURE FOR A LONG TIME AND RECENT RESIDENTS AND ESTABLISHED IN NEW BUSINESSES.

HE OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT THIS ELEMENT INCLUDE THE INNOVATION DISTRICT, THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE FUTURE, UH, THE FUTURE OF THE APD HEADQUARTERS SITE.

THE SECOND ELEMENT OF THE VISION CALLS FOR STRENGTHENING THE PHYSICAL CULTURAL AND SOCIAL CONNECTIONS WITH DOWNTOWN AND BETWEEN EAST AUSTIN AND DOWNTOWN KEY OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE INTERSTATE IMPLEMENTATION OF PROJECT CONNECT, IMPLEMENTATION OF TRAILS ALONG THE WATERLOO, GREENWAY AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PUBLIC GROUND THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT DRAFT VISION FRAMEWORK IDENTIFIED.

THEY ALSO HAD CONVICTIONS IN NATURE.

UH, THE DRAFT VISION FRAMEWORK IDENTIFIES 50 DESIRED OUTCOMES ACROSS FOUR THEMES.

AND HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES, UH, LET'S SAY ONE FROM CULTURE PRESERVE PERFORMANCE VENUES AND THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT THROUGHOUT THROUGH INCENTIVES, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND REGULATORY TOOLS SUCH

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AS THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, HISTORIC AND LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND THE ICONIC VENUE FOR, SO THE NEXT STEPS, WHERE ARE WE GOING FROM HERE? IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE DRAFT FRAMEWORK IS ASPIRATIONAL.

IT IS A VISION FOR THE FUTURE.

YOU WILL BE DOING DETAILED PLANNING, WORK OVER THE MONTHS AHEAD TO IDENTIFY WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ACHIEVE THE VISION IMPLEMENTATION CAN BUILD ON OUR, WHICH ARE ALREADY ON, WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING, UH, IN THE DISTRICT, BUT WE'LL ACQUIRE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE RESOURCES.

THE CITY CAN'T DO THIS WORK ALONE, AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO PARTNERSHIPS TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT STEPS.

YES, MA'AM UH, THE NEXT STEPS, THE DELIVERIES WILL BE PUBLIC REVIEW AND DRAFT VISION FRAMEWORK, DETAILED PLANNING AND ANALYSIS AND ALTERNATIVE FUTURE SCENARIO.

AND BY THIS SUMMER, WE HOPE TO HAVE A DRAFT SMALL AREA PLAN FOR THE DISTRICT, HOW TO GET INVOLVED.

WELL, WE CAN VISIT THE SPEAK UP AUSTIN.ORG PUMP FOREST SLASH PALM DISTRICT.

YOU CAN REVIEW THE DRAFT VISION FRAMEWORK, TAKE THE FEEDBACK SURVEY, REVIEW OTHER MATERIALS, AND ADD THOUGHTS TO THE INTERACTIVE MAP AND ASK QUESTIONS AND REQUEST ANY ORGANIZATIONAL BRIEFINGS.

YOU COULD ALSO PROVIDE INPUT VIA THE EMAIL PALM DISTRICT PLANNING AT AUSTIN, TEXAS.COM OR CALL 3 1, 1, OR, UH, DO IT OLD-SCHOOL AND MAIL, UH, YOUR QUESTIONS OR YOUR COMMENTS TO, UH, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

MY NAME'S MARK WALTERS, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME.

CAN I MATCH MY GLASSES? THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION, A LOT OF WORK ON MUTE AND YOU GO SHOW SOME OF THE CONNECTIONS.

SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE FEATURES THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LESS CULTURAL BARRIER.

HEY, UM, AND REALLY GREAT JOB ON MAKING A HUGE CONVERSATION, HUGE CONCEPTS.

CAUSE THE THING ABOUT, UM, THIS IS A KIND OF A GENERAL QUESTION AROUND PERKY.

ONE OF THE THEMES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT, UM, AND ALSO I WILL BE SENDING ALL THE DESIGN COMMIT COMMISSIONERS, A EMAIL WITH LINKS TO THAT SAME VIDEO, AS WELL AS TO THE PROJECT WEBSITE.

I HAVE THAT VIDEO WEBSITE, THAT EMAIL READY TO GO, AND I JUST SEND IT TO YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS EMAIL ADDRESSES.

THANK YOU, MATT.

CAN YOU HEAR US MUCK? YOU CAN HEAR US.

YEAH, I HAVE A COMMENT.

HEY MARK SEVEN, ARE YOU DOING LONG TIME? NO.

SEE, SO AT OUR LAST MEETING, I WAS A LITTLE OUTSPOKEN ABOUT WE, WE HAD A BRIEFING ABOUT PRESERVING BUILDINGS TO PRESERVE CULTURE AND I, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN AUSTIN.

I KIND OF SAID, WELL, I THINK THAT THAT BUS LEFT THE STATION A LITTLE LATE AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME KIND OF THING.

AND I, I THINK THAT THE PROBLEM IN AUSTIN IS, IS THAT THE RISING PROPERTY COSTS DEVELOPERS AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF IS KIND OF LIKE FORGOTTEN THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERPRIVILEGED, THE UNDERPRIVILEGED FOLKS AND THE PEOPLE I GREW UP WITH.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR IDEAS MARK, ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF LIKE TO EVEN OUT THAT, THAT, THAT GAP RIGHT THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN REALLY PRESERVE THESE REAL RICH CULTURAL HERITAGE IS, UH, AGAINST THE DOLLAR BILL.

WELL, HEY, SIX MONTHS, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, PARTICULARLY IN REGARDS TO LET'S SAY THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, THIS IS WHAT'S COMING TO MIND WHERE, WHICH IS KIND OF THE, THE BEATING HEART OF AUSTIN'S LIVE MUSIC CULTURE IS, IS LOOKING AT POSSIBILITY OF CREATING SOME KIND OF TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS PROGRAM WHERE AIR RIGHTS MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE SOLD TO OTHER PLACES WHAT THOSE OTHER RECEIVING AREAS MIGHT BE IS STILL THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION LATER.

BUT THAT'S ONE APPROACH THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TO PRESERVE THAT AS WELL AS OTHER ICONIC, UH, INSTITUTE LOCATIONS, IF THEY HAVE AIR RIGHTS TO SELL.

AND IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING AND YOU HAVE AN EIGHT TO ONE FAR SITTING ON THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF AIR RIGHTS TO SELL AND HELP MAYBE A WAY TO PRESERVE SOME OF THAT.

UH, OF SOME OF THOSE, UH, BUILDINGS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

THAT'S WHAT COMES TO MIND.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE FORD VISION ASPECTS AND KIND OF COME UP, HOW CAN WE OPERATIONALIZE THESE? WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THEM HAPPEN? AND AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THROUGH THAT EXERCISE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO COME WITH MORE CONCRETE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP, UH, POSSIBLY PRESERVE SOME OF THESE, UH, CULTURALLY AND HISTORICALLY IMPORTANT BUILDINGS.

IN MY SECOND QUESTION IS YOU MENTIONED I AGE 35.

I WAS ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THAT IS A RACIAL DIVIDE.

NOT ONLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT IT IS SO, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS DISCUSSION, BUT I'S 35 AND IN THE CITY NOT PARTICIPATING IN

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HOW DO YOU, HOW DOES THE CITY OF BOSTON, OR HAD YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, DO YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND SOME OF THOSE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING THE THIRTY-FIVE RATHER THAN JUST MAKING IT MORE EFFICIENT? WELL, I, I'M GOING TO SAY I REALLY HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, SO I'M REALLY, DON'T FEEL QUALIFIED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I THINK THAT, THAT IT IS A DIVIDE AND I THINK THERE ARE STEPS WE CAN TAKE TO SOFTEN THAT AND, AND KIND OF KNIT SOME THAT STITCH SOME OF THAT MEND SOME OF THAT BACK TOGETHER.

BUT I, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE CAPS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, I REALLY DON'T KNOW MUCH MORE.

I HAVE NOT BEEN ENGAGED IN THAT.

SO I DON'T MEAN TO PUNCH ON THE QUESTION.

I JUST DON'T, THAT'S WHAT I KNOW.

AND I DON'T LIKE GIVING ANSWERS THAT I, THAT AREN'T, THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

W WELL, MY, THIS SAYS SATISFACTION IS THIS IS A TEXTILE PLAN.

IT'S AN ENGINEER'S PLAN.

AND THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CARE ABOUT AS CITIZENS OF AUSTIN.

SO WHAT IS THE CITY OF AUSTIN GOING TO DO, OR WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP, UH, FURTHER, YOU KNOW, FURTHER THEIR INTEREST? WELL, AGAIN, I THINK AS WE GET INTO THE HEART OF THIS PLANNING PROCESS AND PEOPLE COME UP AND START BRINGING THIS ISSUE FORWARD AND MAKING IT A, MORE OF A FOCUS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, UP TO THIS DATE, IT'S BEEN MORE THE HIGH, HIGH LEVEL THINKING THE VISION, THE ASPIRATIONAL, AND NOW WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING IN MORE INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF THE SUBSTANCE OF THE PLAN, INCLUDING DEVELOPING A MULTIPLE SCENARIOS THAT, UH, MAY REQUIRE SOME KIND OF A REGULATORY CHANGES IN ORDER TO, TO ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS THAT, UH, PARTICULARLY AS THEY RELATE TO LARGE BUILDINGS LOOMING OVER THE, THE CREEK, UH, WHAT CAN WE DO NOT TO MAKE THE CREEK EVEN MORE OF A CANYON, LIKE A SPACE, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BUT I THINK THOSE WILL THOSE REMAIN TO BE SEEN.

AND I THINK WE WILL SEE THOSE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE MORE HARDCORE PLANNING ASPECT OF THIS PROCESS.

MY LAST COMMENT IS I HOPE WE JUST GO TO THE ONE MILE LEVEL UP ABOVE INSTEAD OF THE QUARTER MILE LEVEL.

AND WE KIND OF LOOK AT THE HOLISTIC, UH, HOW THIS IS REALLY AFFECTING AUSTIN AND HOW WE ARE LOSING OUR CULTURE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HOPE WE CAN KIND OF LIKE BACKPEDAL A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF SEE WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS OF ALL THIS KIND OF LIKE FOCUSING ON THESE SMALLER PROJECTS.

AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.

I'VE POINTED OUT IS THE FACT THAT, UH, THE EASTERN CRESCENT DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS TO, UM, TO, UH, THE ACTUAL LIKE RAIL ITSELF.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR US YET? YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND I ALSO HAD, UH, A QUESTION.

A REALLY GREAT JOB OF BRINGING A LOT OF BIG IDEAS TO ONE COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION.

UM, I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THE PARKING CONVERSATION AND HOW THAT IS, LIKE WHAT THE STRATEGY AND APPROACHING THAT IS.

UM, AS, AS PLANNERS, YOU GUYS CAN DO THINGS THAT WE CANNOT AS ARCHITECTS OR, UM, SO IF THERE'S AN IDEA OF CENTRALIZED PARKING, WE REVIEWED PROJECTS LIKE THE MAC RENOVATION, WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE PARK, THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING OPTIONS.

UM, AND IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO INCREASE PISTACHIOS OR, UM, INCREASED WALKABILITY, UH, THROUGHOUT THE AREA, I THINK THAT COULD ENTICE DEVELOPERS TO REDUCE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? WELL, I I'LL SAY IT, THE, THE NORTH CENTRAL PART OF THE DISTRICT IS AROUND FOURTH STREET IS GOING TO BE THE MOST, ONE OF THE MOST TRANSIT RICH PLACES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHEN WHAT'S THIS AND DONE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RED LINE AND GREEN LINE LEAVING FROM THERE, FROM THE DOWNTOWN STATION.

YOU'LL HAVING THE GOLD LINE HEADING NORTH UP TO HIGHLAND MALL.

YOU'LL ALSO BE HAVING, I THINK THE BLUE LINE COMING THROUGH THERE, AS WELL AS ANY SURFACE TRANSIT THAT'S GOING TO BE OCCURRING THERE.

SO RIGHT THERE, YOU HAVE THIS INCREDIBLY RICH TRANSIT AREA THAT THAT'S LIKE UNHEARD OF ANYWHERE ELSE IN AUSTIN.

UH, AND AS FOR PARKING, I THINK I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID IN REFERENCE TO PREVIOUS QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE VISION AND IN SORTING THROUGH THEM AND FIGURING OUT WHAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND AS PARKING BECOMES, WE CAN BROUGHT UP IN THE DISCUSSIONS.

I THINK WE'LL BE STARTING ADDRESS ADDRESSING IT.

THEN I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET IN THE PROCESS.

CAN I JUST PIGGYBACK ON THAT REAL QUICK? AND, UM, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN GONE, BUT THAT DIVING INTO THE PROJECT CONNECT STUFF.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE, THAT

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AND WE'RE RESIGNED TO BETTER BUS CONNECTIONS, UM, WHERE THE WITNESSES THAT I NOTICED YOUR, YOUR SURVEY WAS, WAS, UH, LATIN X HEAVY UP, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS FOCUSED A LOT ON THAT NEXT MARKET, LATIN X COMMUNITY, UM, PIGGYBACKING ON ARCANE.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT, WE MAY NEED PARKING, IF WE DON'T GET BETTER, MORE OPTIMIZED BUS ROUTES FOR MORE ACCESSIBILITY TO THE EASTERN CRESCENT WHERE IT'D BE AND WHERE A LOT OF OUR BIPAP CAN BE LIVES.

SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, FROM A HOLISTIC VIEW, AS EVAN MENTIONED, LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS HAVE TO COME TOGETHER.

SO THEY ALL LEAD TO CONVERSATIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO HAVE.

YEAH, I KNOW THAT EASTERN CRESCENT IS TRANSIT POOR.

I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO POSSIBLE BETTER BUS LINES AND THE GREEN LINE WILL BE GOING TO THERE AS IT HEADS OUT TO MAINER.

AND THAT SAYS THREE STOPS IN, IN THE AREA THAT IN THIS COLONY PARK AREA, THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE AT 180 3 AND ONE AT LOYOLA AND ONE AT THE COLONY PARKS, SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY SITE.

SO, BUT OTHERWISE IT IS NOT HEAVILY SERVED BY TRANSIT INVENTS THOUGH.

WE ARE GETTING READY TO BEGIN A PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE BIG, LARGER NORTHEAST DISTRICT.

SO IF YOU, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, I ADVISE YOU TO KEEP YOUR EARS OPEN AND WE'LL BE ADVERTISING IT ONCE WE GET THAT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I, UM, I THINK THAT WE, THERE'S NOTHING TO FURTHER TO DISCUSS ON THAT ONE.

UM, IF I MAY, BEFORE WE GO, I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AND LOOK AT THE PROJECT SITE AND FILL OUT ANY SURVEYS AND PROVIDE US WITH ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ALL OF THEM WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

[2.a. Approval of the March 28th meeting minutes]

UH, COMMISSIONED SPECIFIC BUSINESS, UH, FROM 2018 MEETING MINUTES, ALL IN FAVOR LOTION COMMENT THAT, UH, I DON'T SEE FROM THE LAST MEETING MINUTES, UM, AS COMMISSIONER MINERS OF THE TO MR. LUBRIN, IF WE CAN TEACH THAT, I WOULD.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM FISHER.

UM, CAN I PUT NOW ON FAMOUS AND I ALWAYS MISS GREAT.

THANKS FOR THAT CASH.

UH, NEXT ONE, OFFICER

[2.b. Officer Elections: Chair & Vice Chair]

ELECTIONS FOR THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP OR NOMINATIONS AND START BY NOW, JEREMY, BEFORE CHAIR.

I WOULD NOMINATE YOU.

I'LL SECOND THAT GREAT.

HOLD ON A SECOND FOR YEAH.

UM, KEVIN, CAN WE DISCUSS THAT? YEAH.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT, UM, DISCUSSION ON WHAT'S NOMINATION OF GENEVA, WHAT CHAIR, CHAIR, CAROL, BUT WHEN IT WAS, AND IT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO A NICE, NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT, UH, TALKED AND, UM, JUST DISCUSS TOGETHER THAT JOKING.

SO, UH, THAT, THAT GOT IT.

GENDERED CAROL SUPPORTS AT NOMINATION AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T BE TOO.

IT'S NICE TO, I HAVE, THIS HAS BEEN AS WELL.

YOU MADE A NOMINATION.

YES, I DID.

UM, CAN I DISCUSS THAT NOMINATION? THANK YOU.

I'M VERY, VERY HONORED.

I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT NOMINATION.

UM, HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT I'M MOVING INTO THE PEAK STAGE OF LIFE WITH CREDITING A CHILD VERY SHORTLY, UM, I'M TRYING REALLY HARD TO THAT.

THE THINGS THAT I SIGN UP FOR HIM AND RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND I DON'T THINK THAT I CAN HOLD THAT MUCH RESPONSIBILITY.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT BEING THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION

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IS A TON OF WORK.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT I CAN FOLLOW IT, UH, CHAIR CAROL SPLIT STEPS TO THE BEST OF THE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, HOW I'D LIKE TO SERVE PEOPLE.

AND SO IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO NOT BE NOMINATED WITH DECLINE? I WOULD LIKE TO DECLINE THAT NOMINATION, BUT AS, AS, AS, UH, HONORED AS I AM TO BE NOMINATED.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP BY SAYING THAT MY SECOND CHOICE WOULD BE COMMISSIONERS FRANCO OR JEN.

UH, SO MAYBE THERE'S A NOMINATION HERE FOR A VICE CHAIR TO BE COMMISSIONED ON THE BRONCOS.

WE NEED A CHAIR THOUGH FIRST, BUT YEAH.

WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SERVE AS A VICE CHAIR? UH, UH, IS THERE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO SERVE HAPPY TO JUST I'M THE CHAIR OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT SIDE FILLS A LOT OF MY TIME.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FEELING IT WITH JEN IS NOT AROUND OR SUPPORTING HER TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES.

I THINK THAT ACTUALLY MEANS THAT YOU'LL BE THE NEXT CHAIR.

OH, WELL THAT WE, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT I'M TERM LIMITED.

REMEMBER I'VE BEEN HERE FOR, FOR, UH, TWO TERMS NOW AND I'M TERM-LIMITED SO I DON'T, I REALLY ONLY BE ABOUT IT'S ALSO, I'M NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT.

CAUSE I I'VE BEEN A VICE CHAIR.

UM, AND I DON'T, I, YOU'RE NOT RIPPING INTO I'M HAVING AN EXHIBIT.

NOBODY ELSE WANTS IT FOR THE, FOR THE POSITION, BUT JUST REMEMBER I'M TERMINATED.

I'LL PROB WHATEVER, AFTER NOVEMBER SOMETHING, SOME ACT THAT YOU HAVE TO STEP DOWN.

SO AFTER YOU WENT TO THE COUNCIL, UH, BUT, AND I'D HAVE TO SAY ANOTHER DEDICATED PERSON WOULD BE COMMISSIONER MINERS, YOU KNOW, AFTER SERVING ON A LOT OF THESE WORKING GROUPS AND ALL THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT DO A LOT OF WORK.

HE'S BEEN VERY DEVOTED TO THIS.

AND SO HAS, UH, COMMISSIONER BLOTTO, IS SHE NOT AT THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW? NOVEMBER? I THINK TO BE HONEST COMMISSIONER, CAUSE HE'S STILL GOT PLENTY OF TIME.

WELL KNOW IF YOU WANT A NOMINEE COMMISSIONER MINORS, AS OPPOSED TO ME, I THINK THEY'D PROBABLY BE A BETTER RECOMMENDATION.

NO, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT POSSIBILITIES HERE.

I'M JUST THROWING OUT SOME NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW ARE REALLY DEDICATED.

WELL THEN CAN I NOMINATE COMMISSIONER MINDERS? IF YOU'LL ACCEPT, IF IT'S FOR A VICE CHAIR, IF THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.

THERE WAS A NOMINATION ON THE FLOOR FOR CHAIR IN THIS COMMISSIONER WEAVER AND THERE'S A NOMINATION ON THE FOURTH VICE-CHAIR AND THAT'S COMMISSION ON MINORS AND NOMINATIONS OR THAT NONE OF THIS.

SO CAN WE DO THE OLD FAMOUS RIGHT TO HANDLE, SAY I PAVE OVER YOURSELF AND IT WASN'T THAT IT WASN'T DEEP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BOTH OF YOU FOR AGREEING TO SERVE THAT REALLY, UH, SPEAKING FOR READING THE SCENARIO AND LEADING PRODUCTS.

SO THAT'D BE, UM, AND STEP INTO YOUR FOOTSTEPS.

ON RECENT COUNCIL APPROVAL TO UPDATE ZAC GUIDELINES.

I'M SUPER EXCITED.

WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU DON'T COME IN PERSON? UM, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION

[2.c. Discussion and Possible Action on recent Council approval to update the Urban Design Guidelines]

YEAH, WE HAVE TWO MINUTES RIGHT AFTER NINE, WE HAVE TO VOTE TO CETERA.

UM, LET'S TRY TO GET OUT OF HERE EARLY.

UH, SO THINGS LIKE A COUNCIL APPROVED CHAPTER THAT THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY MADE A DECISION TO TAKE THE, DOES THAT TERRIFY ME? THANKS.

COUNCIL APPROVAL COUNCIL DIRECTOR MISSION TO, UH, SOMEBODY UPDATE.

THAT'S THE INITIATIVE THAT THE WORKING GROUP IS WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THERE WAS RECENT

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SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.

NOW.

THERE IS NO NEED FOR YOU TO DISCUSS WITH TAKING THE ACTION TONIGHT.

I THINK THAT, UM, WE CAN WAIT FOR CAROL TO GET BACK IF ALL THAT SHIT.

I THINK THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION THOUGH.

I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING, THE WORKING GROUP HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CALL OUT TO THE REST OF THE, UH, THE DESIGN COMMISSION TO START ESTABLISHING OUR WORKING GROUPS WITHIN THAT, UH, TASKS.

SO THAT SHOULD BE COMING UP PRETTY SOON.

AND I THINK WHAT A BIT, UH, DAVID MIGHT BE REACHING OUT TO YOU ABOUT THAT TO PUT OUT A BROADCAST, TO, UH, TO INFORM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE STOPPED HELPING US WITH, UH, OUR NARRATIVE AND OUR COAL AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING THE WEEK.

UM, AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING REALLY HARD AT THE BOTTOM GIVING, GETTING THAT ENGAGE IN A LOT OF WORK GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES THERE, UM, UPDATE FROM REP THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION REGARDING WHAT'S MEETING, I WAS SICK, DID NOT ATTACK.

BEATING WAS CAN SPORT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO BE A BIG ONE AND WALKED UP.

UM, AND FROM THE DRUG SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, SO, UH, NOT GET FOR NOW.

UM, AND SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, UM,

[2.f. Update from representative on the South-Central Waterfront Advisory Board]

WELL, THERE'S A R SPECIAL CALLED ME THIS MONDAY.

SO PAY SECOND TO REPLACE THEM.

I HAVE TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT'S THE UPDATE ON THE TOUR? THE CHURCH APPROVAL STATUS.

SO STILL IN THE BLACK BOX, I MEAN, I'M BY IT'S YET.

WE WERE STAFF IS STILL WORKING ON IT.

THE PARENTING, UM, ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH,

[3. ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

FORMULA CHURCH, EARL.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY CHAIR NONSENSE.

AND THE ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION CAMPUS.

I HAVE A REQUEST, UM, FOR AN UPDATE ON THE DENSITY BONUS FEE CALIBRATION.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING IN LIKE SIX MONTHS OR SO MAYBE SINCE NOVEMBER FAMILY CHAMP, STEPH HAS A WHATEVER REQUEST AND THEY ARE WORKING OKAY.

I'M JUST EXCITED TO SEE THE PROGRESS, HOW YOU GUYS ARE WORKING.

UH, UH, SKIES IS CALLED ORDER, BUT THERE'S A TEAM IT'S NOT REALLY US, BUT LONDON.

IS THIS THE MOMENT FOR JUST A, I GUESS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I THINK AT ONE POINT, SEE, WAS LUCKY.

I KNOW IT WAS DURING THE PANDEMIC DIDN'T WE GET KIND OF A MATRIX OF ALL OF THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROJECTS AND A BUNCH OF COTTON.

EACH ONE GOT PAID INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I MADE SURE.

THAT'S THE CHAIR.

THAT'S PART OF THE UPDATE THAT'S COMING TO YOU IN MAY OR JUNE.

YOU ALSO ASKED FOR THE ALLOCATION OF HOW THE FUNDS ARE BEING USED FOR BOTH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT'S COMING TO YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE.

OH, OKAY.

PERFECT.

NEXT WEEK, UH, IT STARTS WHEN I GO INTO MY BOOK, THE PREDICTIVE DIAPER, WHO KNOWS WHEN I REALLY WILL BE A MAYBE SAY, IF I MADE CHAIR SAY TO ASSUME YOU MAY NOT AND WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SPEND TIME WITH YEAH.

I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS, IT WAS ALREADY ON THE, ON THE FRONT BURNER.

GOOD TO KNOW.

UM, CAN WE GET AN UPDATE ON THIS SCENE FOR SIXTH STREET INITIATIVE? WE REVIEWED IT AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP, WE REPEAT IT AT DOWNTOWN COMMISSION AND THERE WAS KIND OF TALK ABOUT CREATING PROGRAMS AND ASSEMBLY SPACES IN THE STREET, WHICH WE DO A LOT OF THAT WITH, UM, UPSTATE REGULAR PUBLIC IN BUILDING.

I AM REALLY CURIOUS WHAT THE DESIGN COMMISSION WOULD THINK ABOUT, KIND OF WHAT SPEED PROPOSE I MADE SURE THAT REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE A STEP.

THEY ARE AWARE WE'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE A DATE FOR THEM.

SO STAFF THAT'S WORKING ON THAT INITIATIVE HAS BEEN MADE AWARE THAT THE COMMISSIONER THAT THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN GETTING, UM, UPDATE ME.

I'M GOING TO BE ON MATERNITY LEAVE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

UM, BUT I THINK I'LL STILL BE INVITED TO EVERYTHING AND WILL JOIN AS I CAN, UM, ITEMS FROM CITY STAFF.

UM, THIS IS CERTAINLY HOW

[03:00:02]

THAT'LL UH, THOSE ZOOMING IN THE HOSPITAL.

UM, OKAY.

I THINK IT'S 9:04 PM AND WE CAN HAVE JET.

YEAH, WE'RE BOTH TERRIBLE.

OH, YEP.