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CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER I'M CRAIG NASER COMMISSIONED CHAIR

[CALL TO ORDER]

CALLING THE ME TOO, MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:04 PM.

THIS IS ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING MAY 9TH, 2022, VIRTUAL AND TELECONFERENCING.

UH, SO NOW WE NEED, UH, UH, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE WE DO THE ROLE, I WANT TO WELCOME DR.

PAIGE NELSON TO THE COMMISSION.

SHE IS CHEETO VALLAS, APPOINTEE, AND SHE IS OUR VET, WHICH WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE BY STATE LAWS.

SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE A DOCTOR HERE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, LET ME CALL THE ROLE, UH, CRAIG LASERS HERE, RYAN CLINTON, NANCY NEMER, LISA MITCHELL, EAR EAR, UH, KATIE YARROW HERE, CHARLE ACTUALLY IN HISTORY FOR UDACITY, UH, PALMER NEW HOUSE HERE.

KRISTIN HASSON JOANNE NORDEN.

LOT OF SMACK ULA HERE, LOUISE HARA BEATRICE.

DR.

PAGE NEILSON HERE.

OKAY.

SO THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

IS PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

UH, SO LET'S START WITH, UM, EMILY STEINBERG, ZIMMERLI STEINBERG HERE.

THERE SHE IS.

I AS A NEWER VOLUNTEER AND SOMEONE WHO LOVES THE CENTER AND OUR ANIMALS, PARTICULARLY THE LARGE DOGS, MORE THAN ANYTHING.

AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER HAS BECOME MY HAPPY PLACE OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS SOMEWHERE, I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING EVERY WEEK TO HELP WITH ADOPTION EVENTS, LARGE DOG WALKING, FOSTER MATCHMAKING, AND RUNNING DOGS TO AND FROM PLAYGROUP.

I'VE ADOPTED TWO DOGS MYSELF FROM AAC IN THE PAST AND AM PROUD TO HAVE SUCCESSFULLY FOSTERED MY FIRST.

SO I WANTED TO START TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH BOTH SOME GOOD AND BAD NEWS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE FIRST, THE GOOD, THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM IS AMAZING AND ONE OF THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN THE VOLUNTEER ROLES ARE VITAL, MEANINGFUL, AND WELL-ORGANIZED, AND THE VOLUNTEER TRAININGS AND COORDINATORS ARE TOP NOTCH.

IN FACT, BECAUSE OF THIS, I NOMINATED AAC VOLUNTEER PROGRAM FOR THE AUSTIN CHRONICLES, BEST OF AUSTIN AWARDS FOR BEST VOLUNTEER EXPERIENCE.

WE MUST KEEP INVESTING IN AND EXPANDING OUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAMMING.

SECOND, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND STAFF HERE ARE SOME OF THE MOST HARDWORKING, DEDICATED PEOPLE I'VE EVER MET FROM ANIMAL CARE TO CUSTOMER SERVICE.

THESE STAFF ARE BUSTING THEIR BUTTS EVERY DAY AND DOING DOUBLE OR SOMETIMES TRIPLE DUTY TO KEEP THE SHELTER AFLOAT.

THEY DESERVE ALL THE RESPECT AND RECOGNITION IN THE WORLD.

AND THREE, THE BEHAVIOR TEAM IS LITERALLY WORKING MIRACLES WITH THESE ANIMALS.

AND ONLY MY FIRST SIX MONTHS AS A VOLUNTEER, I'VE WITNESSED THE BEHAVIOR IMPROVEMENTS OF NUMEROUS DOGS IN OUR CARE FROM BEING SHY, STRESSED, FEARFUL, AND POTENTIALLY AGGRESSIVE TO TRANSFORMING INTO THE ADOPTABLE, LOVING, SOCIALIZED, AND PLAYFUL PUP.

THEY WERE MEANT TO BE, THIS IS DONE THROUGH DAILY PLAYGROUPS, ENRICHMENT ACTIVITIES, REAL LIFE ROOM INTERACTIONS, VOLUNTEER OUTINGS, AND OVERNIGHT FRIENDS OF AAC, SPONSORED TRAINERS AND INTENSIVE SUPPORT FROM THE ORANGE DOT CREW IN CLASSIC CANINE.

THIS BEHAVIOR WORK IS ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE AND SHOULD BE INVESTED IN HEAVILY TO ENSURE THAT OUR DOGS CAN BE ADOPTED INTO GOOD AND LOVING HOMES THAT WILL FIT NOW FOR THE BAD FIRST.

THE CHRONIC UNDER STAFFING SITUATION RIGHT NOW IS JUST PLAIN UNACCEPTABLE.

NO EXCUSES RELATED TO COVID ARE REALLY ACCEPTABLE ANY LONGER.

YOU MUST MAKE IT EASIER TO APPLY FOR THESE JOBS.

PAY MORE, OFFER BETTER BENEFITS AND SIGN ON PERKS AND LIMIT STAFF HOURS TO NOT OVERWORK THEM TO ENSURE A LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE STAFF PIPELINE.

RIGHT NOW, SOME STAFF ARE WORKING 12 HOUR DAYS DOING BACKBREAKING WORK EXHAUSTED AND HAVE NO SUPPORT FROM LEADERSHIP WHEN VACANCIES OR SICKNESS RELATED ABSENCES OCCUR.

LEADERSHIP MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND SHOULD BE STEPPING IN TO FILL BASIC SHELTER FUNCTIONS.

IF THEY CANNOT KEEP ADEQUATE STAFF ONSITE, SERIOUS CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE IN THE CITY'S HIRING PROCESS AND PAY SCALES TO PREVENT THE CURRENT STAFFING CRISIS FROM BECOMING FATAL TO OUR ANIMALS.

SECOND.

AND IN ADDITION, RECENT DECISIONS BY LEADERSHIP TO PRIORITIZE COSMETIC IMPROVEMENTS OVER SAFETY NEEDS ARE TRULY BIZARRE AND BAFFLING.

THE RECENT PUSH TO INSTALL $200,000 OF ARTIFICIAL TURF, WHICH PHYSICALLY BURNED DOG PAWS IN THE SUMMER SEAT RATHER THAN INSTALLING THE SHADE COVERINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING UNUSED FOR OVER A YEAR MAKES ZERO SENSE TO ME.

I MYSELF HAVE SUFFERED HEAT STROKE WHILE VOLUNTEERING DUE TO LACK OF SHADE IN THE PLAY YARD.

THIS IS A SERIOUS LIABILITY AND HEALTH HAZARD FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE THE LUXURY OF SITTING IN AN AIR CONDITIONED BUILDING.

I KNOW

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I'M OUT OF TIME, BUT THERE ARE MORE VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF HERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

AND I WANT TO REMIND OUR OTHER COMMENTERS THAT WE ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

IT SEEMS DRACONIAN, BUT NOWADAYS AT THE CITY HALL, THEY LIMIT YOU TO ONE MINUTE.

SO THREE MINUTES IS, IS PRETTY GOOD.

UH, THANK YOU, EMILY.

NEXT IS EILEEN MCFALL, UH, FINAL SECOND-YEAR RESCUE PROJECT, WHICH IS EILEEN.

YOU STARTED PLEASE RESTART, SORRY.

UM, MY NAME IS EILEEN MCFALL AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINAL FRONTIER RESCUE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE MAIN RESCUE THAT HAS COLD DOGS THAT WERE IN DANGER OF BEING KILLED BY AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER.

AFTER DECLINED BY AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, WE'VE RECENTLY CEASED TO BE A PARTNER AND WILL NOT BE A PARTNER.

AS LONG AS DON BLAND REMAINS IN CHARGE.

UM, AS THE PREVIOUS COMMENT OR SAID, WE HAVE THE GREATEST RESPECT AND ADMIRATION FOR THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE WORKING INCREDIBLY HARD TO HELP THE ANIMALS.

LEADERSHIP IS NOT TRUSTWORTHY.

UM, AN EXCUSE IS JUST NOT AS GOOD AS THEIR RESULT.

AND ALL WE GET FROM DON BLAND IS EXCUSES.

UM, WE NEED GOOD DATA.

WE NEED RELIABLE DATA AND DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE TO, UM, AND OUTCOMES TRACKED.

THE TRANSPORT PROGRAM HAS NOT HELPED AS I TALKED TO YOU, A C IS ONCE AGAIN SAYING THEY'RE IN A SPACE CRISIS, IT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE.

THIS LEADERSHIP IS A BISMAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ARLENE.

UH, NEXT IS STEPHANIE LOUISA.

STANDBY, PLEASE PROJECT, PLEASE.

GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

PLEASE START.

MY NAME IS STEPHANIE FRITZ AND I'M ONE OF THE CO-FOUNDERS OF FINAL CENTER RESCUE PROJECT.

SINCE OUR FORMATION IN 20 18 5 FRONTIER HAS BEEN OUR KEY RESCUE PARTNER OF AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, AND WE'VE RESCUED IN PLACE.

MANY OF AUSTIN'S DOGS WITH BEHAVIOR ISSUES WITHOUT COMPROMISING PUBLIC SAFETY.

WHILE IT'S NEVER BEEN EASY TO WORK WITH AAC, IT HAS BECOME IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO CONTINUE DOING SO.

UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF DON BLAND, WE HAVE ASKED TO WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH AAC SEVERAL TIMES SINCE MR. BLAND HIRING AND OUR REQUESTS WERE IGNORED.

WE HAVE BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF AUSTIN'S PROGRESS AS A NO-KILL COMMUNITY.

AND YET THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE WERE DISCONTINUING, OUR PARTNERSHIP WENT UNANSWERED AS WELL.

OUR SMALL VOLUNTEER LED RESCUE CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO COMPENSATE FOR THE FAILURES OF AUSTIN PUBLIC SHELTER.

AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER NEEDS COMPASSIONATE AND COLLABORATIVE LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.

ON NEXT TO ZACHARY LOUISA.

HELLO, MY NAME IS ZACHARY LUWISER AND I'M AN EIGHTH GRADER AT LAKE TRAVIS MIDDLE SCHOOL.

I HAVE BEEN HELPING MY MOM, STEPHANIE FRITZ WITH DOG RESCUE THROUGH FOSTERING AND VOLUNTEERING SINCE I WAS AROUND SEVEN YEARS OLD, FOSTERING DOGS HAS TAUGHT ME A LOT, BUT IF MY MOM WASN'T INVOLVED WITH DOG RESCUE, I WOULDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

IT WOULD BE GREAT IF AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER COULD REACH OUT TO FAMILIES SO THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THE BENEFITS OF FOSTERING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ZACHARY.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

SHANNON HAAS.

SHANNON HAAS IS NOT HERE.

OKAY.

MAYBE SHE'LL GET HERE.

IS SHE ONLINE? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO NEXT IS BEVERLY LUNA.

YOU CAN GIVE ME THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.

I DON'T WANT TO DO ONE PICK UP.

WE, WE DON'T, WE HAVE LESS THAN 10.

OKAY.

SO MY NAME IS BEVERLY LUNA.

I'M WITH AUSTIN LOST AND FOUND PETS.

UM, I TEND TO BRING UP THE SAME ISSUES OVER AND OVER BECAUSE THEY DON'T TEND TO BE RESOLVED.

UM, WE HAVE ISSUES THAT WOULD HELP THE SHELTER AS WELL.

REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DOGS THAT HAVE TO GO TO THE SHELTER.

A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IS WITH 24 PET WATCH.

AND I HAD BROUGHT UP THIS ISSUE OVER THE

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PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, REPEATEDLY TO MR. SLOAT.

AND I THINK AT ONE POINT TO DON BLAND AS WELL, ALL OF THE MICROCHIPS THAT GO TO, UM, 24 PET WATCH TO BE REGISTERED ALL OF THE SHELTER DOGS, UM, THEY'RE LISTED AS HAVING PRIVACY HOLDS ON THEM.

WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NORMALLY DO.

IF YOU HAVE A WOMAN WHO'S A VICTIM OR MAN OF DOMESTIC ABUSE, AND THEY DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO FIND THEM THROUGH THE MICROCHIP.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IF I FIND MY NEIGHBOR'S DOG, THE MICROCHIP COMPANY WILL ONLY GIVE ME A FIRST NAME.

LAST INITIAL, SOMETIMES A PHONE NUMBER.

SOMETIMES NOT.

I CAN'T TELL IT TO MY NEIGHBOR.

I TAKE THE DOG TO THE SHELTER.

THE TELEPHONE IS PROBABLY CHANGED.

THEN THE BURDEN IS ON THE SHELTER.

IF THEY HAVE TIME TO DO IT, TO ACTUALLY GO TO THE HOME.

AND I HEAR THEY DON'T DO THAT VERY OFTEN TO GET THE DOG HOME SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE AN EASY FIX JUST TO TELL 24 HOUR PET WATCH TO STOP AUTOMATICALLY PUTTING PRIVACY HOLDS ON ALL THE MICROCHIPS.

WE ALSO HAVE ISSUES WITH THREE.

ONE, ONE IS STILL CONSISTENTLY TELLING PEOPLE TO LET DOGS GO.

AND, UM, PEOPLE WERE LETTING DOGS GO.

IT'S A DANGER TO THE PUBLIC.

IT'S A DANGER TO THE, TO THE ANIMAL, BUT THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BEVERLY UH, OKAY, SO WE HAVE ASHLEY NOT NEIL'S.

HELLO.

MY NAME IS ASHLEY NEILS.

I'M THE BEHAVIOR TEAM SUPERVISOR, AND I'VE WORKED AT THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER FOR JUST OVER EIGHT YEARS.

DURING THAT TIME I'VE BEEN UNDER SIX DIFFERENT CHIEFS AND HAVE EXPERIENCED THAN MY FAIR SHARE OF HEARTBREAK, BUT NEVER HAVE I WORKED IN SUCH A TOXIC WORK ENVIRONMENT.

AS I DO NOW, INDIVIDUALLY, THE MEMBERS OF THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP TEAM ARE GOOD PEOPLE, BUT AS A GROUP, THEY RULE THROUGH FEAR OF RETALIATION.

AND BY KEEPING US ALL SO LOW AND EXHAUSTED THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE STRENGTH TO STAND UP AGAINST THEM ANYMORE.

IT IS COMMON PRACTICE FOR DAWN AND OTHERS ON LEADERSHIP TO DISPARAGE OUR RESCUE PARTNERS, OUR NASTY VOLUNTEERS, AND, UH, ANY STAFF WHO DARES TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT ANYTHING.

I HAVE WATCHED AS SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT I CONSIDER MY CLOSEST SHELTER, FAMILY BECOME INCREASINGLY ANGRY AND SPITEFUL, AND I HAVE HAD MY OWN SPIRIT AND WILL SO BAD AT IT AND BROKEN THAT I NEARLY GAVE UP.

WHEN I OFFERED TO COME TALK TO THE COMMISSION ABOUT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE ACTUALLY HARMING OUR SPACE CRISIS.

I WAS TOLD POINT BLANK THAT YOU WOULDN'T CARE WHAT I HAD TO SAY.

WELL, HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO PROVE THEM WRONG.

HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO STAND UP FOR BOOTS ON THE GROUND STAFF AND TELL US THAT WE MET HER AND TO TELL AUSTIN THAT WE ARE STILL COMMITTED TO BEING THE LARGEST NO-KILL COMMUNITY IN THE NATION LIST OF FIXES AT AAC NEEDS TO TRULY THRIVE AS LONG.

BUT TONIGHT I WILL START WITH THE THREE MOST PRESSING REQUESTS THAT WE NEED THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION TO PUSH CITY COUNCIL AND CITY HALL FORCE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE FUNCTIONING.

ONE.

I ASKED THAT AN IMMEDIATE MORATORIUM BE PLACED ON THE KILLING OF LONG STAY DOGS UNDER THE GUISE OF BEHAVIORAL CONCERNS.

THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL AND NOT ONLY DOESN'T HELP WITH OUR SPACE CRISIS, BUT IN FACT USES UP A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT COULD BE BETTER SPENT ELSEWHERE TOO.

I ASKED FOR BOTH AN INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL HR, UH, INVESTIGATION INTO THE TOP-DOWN TOXIC WORKPLACE CULTURE, AS THAT WILL BE INCREDIBLY REVEALING OF THE OTHER MAJOR PROBLEMS AT AAC.

AND THREE, I WOULD LIKE AN EXPLANATION FROM CITY HALL AS TO WHY THE ALARMING DATA, RED FLAGS AND CRIES FOR HELP GIVEN OVER AND OVER IN THE LISTENING TO THE WORKFORCE SURVEYS AND EXIT INTERVIEWS HAVE BEEN IGNORED.

THEY HAVE ALLOWED THIS TOXIC ENVIRONMENT TO FESTER FOR FAR TOO LONG, AND AAC STAFF DESERVES BETTER.

I KNOW THE RISKS I'M TAKING BY SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY.

I KNOW HOW UNCOMFORTABLE IT WOULD BE TO WALK INTO WORK AGAIN, BUT TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS FROM THE INSIDE HAS BEEN ENTIRELY INEFFECTIVE.

AND WE ARE OUT OF TIME.

WE'RE AT THE POINT OF NO RETURN EITHER WE REINSTATE AUSTIN'S COMMITMENT TO ANIMAL WELFARE OR THE MASS EXODUS OF ANYONE WHO CARES WE'LL CONTINUE AND EVERYTHING WE'VE BUILT OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS WILL CONTINUE TO CRUMBLE.

SO PLEASE, I'M ASKING YOU TO STAND UP FOR US AND TO STAND UP WITH US TO HELP US RECLAIM OUR SHELTER.

CORRECT.

CORRECT.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ENGAGE.

UM, BUT WE ARE ALLOWED TO ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD ASK THE LAST SPEAKER TO JUST PROVIDE DETAILS ON WHAT SHE MEANT BY, UH, THE PLACEMENT OF LONG STAY BEHAVIOR DOGS ON THE KILL LIST AS, UM,

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UH, ACTUALLY MAKING IT HARDER RATHER THAN HELPING WITH THE SPACE CRISIS.

WHEN THESE LONG STAYS ARE PLACED ON THE LIST, IT IS TO GET THEM OUT.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE ARE UNDER SO MUCH PRESSURE TO SAVE THE LIVES OF THE DOGS THAT WE CARE ABOUT, THAT WE ARE SPENDING SO MUCH OVER YOUR EMOTIONAL ENERGY, OUR PERSONAL TIME AT HOME.

UM, AND EVEN AT WORK, LIKE HAVING TO INTRODUCE DOGS TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE CORRECT PLACEMENT.

WE ARE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME DOING THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PUT OUR FULL ATTENTION TOWARDS GETTING THE BULK OF THE DOGS OUT, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO BACK AND FORTH, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING.

YEAH.

JUST WHAT RYAN IS SAYING IS CORRECT.

UH, ON PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, UH, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ASK MAYBE FIVE QUESTION OR TWO, BUT OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, ASHLEY FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE A FEW MORE, WE HAVE SHELLY LEE HAM.

I'M ACTUALLY FOR AN AGENDA ITEM.

OH, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THESE ARE GENERAL.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL SAVE THEM FOR THE ITEMS. OKAY.

SO THAT'S EVERYBODY, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER INVERSE, WE CAN DO THE GEN ITEMS. OKAY.

UH, YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.

THAT'S USUALLY A GOOD IDEA.

IT'S THREE HOUR OR THREE MINUTE LIMIT STILL.

SO SHELLY, LEAVE HIM.

WHAT ITEM FOR A FOUR? A OKAY.

MY NAME IS SHELLEY LIEBERMAN.

I'M AN ACTIVE CAT VOLUNTEER AT AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER.

I ALSO MENTOR NEW CAT VOLUNTEERS AND I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF MENTORING LATELY.

I WANT TO ADDRESS THE DATA PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER HUSSON AS BACKUP TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR, A REGARDING THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, AS IT RELATES TO THE CURRENT SPACE CRISIS.

FIRST COMPARING PRE PANDEMIC DATA TO NOT EVEN YET POSTPONE DEMIC DATA.

PODESTA DATA IS LIKE COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES.

PRE PANDEMIC VOLUNTEERS WERE ALLOWED TO BE ONSITE FROM 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, WE WEREN'T ALLOWED ON SITE FOR A FEW MONTHS AND THE HOURS WERE VERY RESTRICTED.

AFTERWARDS.

TODAY WE CAN GO FROM 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM EVERY DAY, APPLES TO ORANGES, PRE PANDEMIC LIFE WAS DIFFERENT PEOPLE WEREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT CATCHING A POTENTIALLY DEADLY VIRUS.

THE PRIORITIES OF MANY PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED SINCE LIVING THROUGH A PRODUCT, A PANDEMIC WORK, FAMILY, VOLUNTEERING, APPLES TO ORANGES.

SECOND ONE IMPORTANT FACT IN THE DOCUMENT IS JUST SIMPLY UNTRUE.

THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS STATES THAT CHANGE TO COUNTING FOSTERS AS VOLUNTEER HOURS HAPPENED IN 2020 FOR THE FIRST TIME, AAC HAS INSTRUCTED FOSTERS TO RECUR RECORD TWO HOURS PER DAY FOR FOSTERING, SINCE AT LEAST 2016 AS REFLECTED BY THE GIFT PULSE GUIDE PROVIDED TO VOLUNTEERS AND FOSTERS.

AT THAT TIME, I REALIZE I'M NOT PART OF THE WORKING GROUP ON THE SPACE CRISIS.

AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS BACKUP DOCUMENTS STANDING ALONE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THE ONGOING SPACE CRISIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE SHELTER HAS BEEN IN CRISIS MODE.

AND WHILE I APPRECIATE THE WORK GOING INTO TRYING TO SOLVE THE SPACE CRISIS, I CANNOT STAY SILENT WHEN THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM IS UNDER REVIEW.

MAYBE I DON'T HAVE THE FULL PICTURE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE CAN AT LEAST COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES AND USE ACCURATE INFORMATION ON WHAT TO BASE RECOMMENDATIONS.

MANY VOLUNTEERS CHOSE NOT TO RETURN SINCE THE PANDEMIC HIT.

SO FINDING A NEW POOL OF VOLUNTEERS WHEN WE ARE COMPETING WITH MANY OTHER NONPROFITS MEANS THAT WE'LL TAKE SOME TIME.

WHEN I DECIDED TO VOLUNTEER AT THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, MY DECISION WAS BASED IN PART ON MY BELIEF THAT AS A MUNICIPAL SHELTER, THEY PROBABLY NEEDED MORE HELP THAN OTHER WELL-KNOWN NONPROFITS.

AND MY EXPERIENCE HAS PROVEN THAT BELIEF TO BE TRUE.

MANY PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW THAT AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER IS THE MUNICIPAL SHELTER.

PERHAPS MORE MARKETING DOLLARS COULD HELP ATTRACT NEW VOLUNTEERS.

I WAS FORCED TO TAKE A BREAK FROM VOLUNTEERING DURING MOST OF 2020 AND ALL OF 2021, MAINLY BECAUSE THE BUSINESS I OWN AND OPERATED WAS HEAVILY IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC.

AND WHEN BUSINESS FINALLY STARTED TO RETURN THE JOB MARKET CHANGED, I COULDN'T FIND STUFF OR I COULDN'T AFFORD TO PAY WHAT THEY NEEDED.

MY EXPERIENCE IS NOT UNIQUE.

THERE'S A STAFFING SHORTAGE AND ALMOST EVERY TYPE OF ORGANIZATION IN THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER IS INCLUDED.

WHILE I BELIEVE THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM IS AN ESSENTIAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

AND I WANT TO SEE IT GROW.

LET'S NOT PLACE AN INORDINATELY HIGH EXPECTATION ON UNPAID VOLUNTEERS.

VOLUNTEERS ARE HERE TO HELP SUPPLEMENT STUFF, NOT REPLACE IT.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SHELLY.

OKAY.

UM, THE NEXT PERSON WOULD BE RHONDA PICKENS ALSO, UH, SPEAKING TO ITEM FOUR, A I JUST WANT TO CHECK, CAN I GIVE MY TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE? UH, OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME OR DO I NEED TO, WOW.

USUALLY YOU SHOULD USE YOUR TIME.

WE USUALLY CAN DO THAT HERE.

THEY DO THAT AT CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE DON'T USE IT.

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OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MY NAME IS RHONDA PICKENS AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS REGARDING SPACE, CRISIS RECOMMENDATIONS.

ONE OF THE REASONS BEING THAT THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND ARE NOT LISTENED TO BY MANAGEMENT.

THEREFORE THESE IDEAS AREN'T GETTING THERE.

UM, ONE, THEY NEED TO LAY SPAY AND NEUTER UNTIL AFTER THE BEHAVIOR TEAM HAS EVALUATED THE DOGS.

THE CURRENT SYSTEM MEANS IT'S USUALLY A MONTH BEFORE DOGS CAN BE BROUGHT INTO PLAY GRAP FOR EVE PLAYGROUP FOR EVIL THAT'S BECAUSE THEY GO THROUGH THE SPAY AND NEUTER.

THEY TEND TO GET SICK AFTER SPAY AND NEUTER.

SO 30 DAYS OF A STRESSED ANIMAL BEFORE THERE, THEY CAN RECEIVE THEIR BEHAVIOR, UM, EVALUATION.

UM, AND BECAUSE THEY ARE SO STRESSED BY THAT POINT, THEIR BA BARRIER REACTIVITY IS WORSE AND IT MAKES THEM SEEM LESS ADOPTABLE.

SO STEPPING IN EARLIER WOULD HELP MAKE THE DOGS MORE ADOPTABLE TO AAC, DESPERATELY NEEDS A BEHAVIOR FOSTER COORDINATOR AND A SPACE MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.

IF THE CITY CANNOT PROVIDE FUNDS AND NEEDS TO APPLY TO MADDIE'S FUND OR SOME OTHER ORGANIZATION FOR GRANTS, BECAUSE THIS IS DESPERATELY NEEDED, THREE, NO MORE WASTING MONEY ON FRIVOLOUS AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS LIKE ARTIFICIAL GRASS MANAGEMENT WAS INFORMED WELL IN ADVANCE THAT IT ACTUALLY HURTS THE DOGS IN AN AUSTIN SUMMER TO BE ON ARTIFICIAL GRASS.

UM, AND THEY WERE JUS AS USUAL, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WERE IGNORED.

UM, THREE, NO MORE WASTING, I'M SORRY.

THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT ON THINGS THAT ACTUALLY REDUCE THE DOG STRESS, THEREBY REDUCING THEIR LENGTH OF STAY STRESS DOGS, UM, LOOK LESS ADAPTABLE.

THEY NEED VISUAL BARRIERS IN THE KENNELS.

THEY NEED SOUNDPROOFING, ESPECIALLY IN THE BUILDING.

THEY NEED TO FIX THE OUTSIDE OF THE SUITE SO THAT THE DOGS CAN'T FENCE FIGHT.

ALL OF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THE MONEY SPENT ON ARTIFICIAL GRASS, HAVE TRANSPORT AND RESCUE PARTNERS, PULL DOGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE SHELTER GREATER THAN 30 DAYS, INSTEAD OF ALLOWING THEM TO PICK AND CHOOSE THE MOST ADOPTABLE DOGS.

CURRENT, THE CURRENT MODEL IS UNSUSTAINABLE.

IF ALL THE BET ALL THE EASIEST TO ADOPT DOGS ARE TAKEN AWAY.

THEN THE MOST DIFFICULT DOGS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD A NUMBER AT AAC.

UM, AND THEN JUST PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO SAY YOU HAVE VOLUNTEERS AND A, UM, STAFF OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

PEOPLE THAT DO THIS FROM PASSION AND THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HUGE STRESS AND COMPASSION, FATIGUE, AND YOU'RE CHASING THEM AWAY.

AND IT'S A LOST TREASURE TO AUSTIN.

THANK YOU, RHONDA.

UH, THE LAST, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS, UH, WELL, NO, THIS IS ON FORAY.

ALSO.

THIS IS ON THE SPACE CRISIS.

JOANNE MO Y'ALL ANYONE THAT ATTEMPTS TO SAY MY LAST NAME GETS A THUMBS UP FROM ME.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, MITRE, I JUST WANTED TO OFFER A FEW DIFFERENT, UH, OR FIRST MY NAME'S JOANNE MALAWI, AND I'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERING AT THE SHELTER FOR FIVE YEARS.

UM, I JUST HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS HELP WITH THE SPACE CRISIS.

THEY MIGHT BE SMALL, BUT LIKE AT THIS POINT LITTLE THINGS ADD UP, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER TO MAKE BIG THINGS.

UM, MY BIGGEST QUESTION, UM, AND I HAVE, UM, ASKED VOLUNTEER COORDINATORS ABOUT THIS BEFORE IS, UM, THE ADOPTION BUS.

IT'S BASICALLY A HUGE BILLBOARD AND IT CARRIES DOGS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, UM, BEFORE THE PANDEMIC I ATTENDED TWO OFF-SITE ADOPTION EVENTS AND THEY WERE MODERATELY SUCCESSFUL.

EVEN IF WE DON'T ADOPT ONE DOG FROM THERE, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS POSSIBLE.

IT'S A HUGE BILLBOARD.

SO THE LAST TIME, ONE OF THE BIG ONES THAT WAS THAT I WAS AD WAS THAT, UM, PETSMART AND B CAVE, AND IT WAS GREAT.

AND THAT'S AN AREA THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE REACHING OUT TO.

I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE FAR FROM THE SHELTER, BUT ADOPTIONS ARE DOWN AND WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN.

UM, AND PLEASE, I ASK YOU TO INVITE VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT.

UM, AND I ALSO SAW ON OUR INTERNAL FACEBOOK PAGE THAT, UM, THERE WAS AN EVENT I THINK, LAST WEEKEND.

AND THERE WAS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT SAID I'VE NEVER HEARD OF YOUR, UH, PLACE BEFORE, LIKE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER.

WHAT DOES THAT, UM, ANOTHER SMALL SUGGESTION.

WHAT ABOUT A NEW LOGO, A NEW SLOGAN, EVEN A SONG.

I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE'VE GOT TO REJUVENATE.

UM, ANOTHER THING APA DOES

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AN AMAZING JOB AT MARKETING.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE CAN DENY THAT.

CAN WE CONTACT THEM, TAKE TIPS FROM THEM? THEY, I FOLLOW A FEW PEOPLE ON, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA AND APA IS EVERYWHERE AND THERE'S ROOM FOR ALL OF US AT THE TABLE.

UM, CAVE.

YOU JUST TWEETED OUT SOMETHING FROM APA.

I BELIEVE LIKE FOUR OR FIVE DAYS AGO ABOUT THE PETS AND HEAT THEY WERE ON THERE.

I'VE NEVER SEEN ANIMALS CENTER, AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER ON THERE.

UM, SUGAR MAMAS, BIG SHOP.

THEY HA THEY RAISE MONEY FOR APA.

UM, BE LIKE JOSH FOUNDATION, WHICH IS NOT COMMONLY KNOWN.

WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS, THEY WERE AT A, THEY WERE HAVING A NATIONAL TOUR AND APA WAS THERE.

SO I THINK, UM, WE CAN TAKE TIPS FROM THEM.

WE'VE GOT TO GET OURSELVES OUT THERE.

PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WE ARE THE CITY'S SHELTER.

UM, I WOULD LOVE FOR THE SHELTER TO BE OPEN AGAIN ON SUNDAYS.

WE NEED IT SO BADLY.

UM, EVEN IF FIVE ANIMALS GET ADOPTED ONLY THAT'S FIVE DOGS, NOT IN CRATES RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE'VE GOT DOGS BASICALLY IN A CRATE IN SMALLVILLE.

WE'VE GOT CATS BASICALLY IN CRATES.

WE NEED THESE ANIMALS OUT.

IT'S NOT HUMANE.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I KNOW THERE'S A BIG PUSH FOR FOSTERS, BUT LIKE WE'VE GOT DOGS IN CRATES.

HOPEFULLY NOT THE EXACT MOMENT RIGHT NOW THAT THOSE ARE OUR EASIEST DOGS.

WE CAN GET THEM OUT.

UM, AND THEY SPEND LITERALLY 23 HOURS IN A CRATE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

IT'S NOT HUMANE, NO KILL NEEDS TO BE HUMANE AND IT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY.

AND I KNOW I'M NOT ALONE IN THAT, BUT I JUST FEELS GOOD TO SAY IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAID ENOUGH.

SO I KNOW WE LOVE OUR ANIMALS, PLEASE LET'S SAVE THEM AND ALSO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JOANNE.

OKAY.

SO THAT IS, UM, LET'S SEE.

THE NEXT

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THING WE HAVE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UH, SO BELINDA SENT THOSE OUT.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON APPROVAL FOR THE MINUTES? I HAVE A MOTION TO DO WE HERE A SECOND.

I SECOND BEATRICE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SORRY.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

YES.

OKAY.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

OKAY.

LET'S GO ON TO BRIEFINGS.

I SAID,

[2a. Austin Animal Center and Animal Services Reports.]

I'M A CENTER ANIMAL SERVICES REPORTS.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, JASON GARZA, ANIMAL SERVICES.

SO FOR APRIL, THE LIVE OUTCOME PERCENTAGE WAS 97.4%.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 1067 ANIMALS BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 419 ANIMALS THAT WERE ADOPTED AND A TOTAL OF 132.

UH, CATS, BIRDS DOGS ARE RETURNED TO THE OWNERS THROUGH EITHER STRAIGHT UP OR RTO OR THROUGH RTO ADOPT WITHIN ANIMAL PROTECTION.

THEY WERE ABLE TO RETURN 38 ANIMALS TO THEIR OWNERS IN THE FIELD.

UM, THEY DID IMPOUND 158 INJURED ANIMALS AND DELIVERED 95 WILDLIFE ANIMALS TO AUSTIN WILDLIFE RESCUE.

UM, FOR VOLUNTEERS, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 278 VOLUNTEERS.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE REPORT DONATED 3,331, UH, HOURS FOR VOLUNTEER SERVICE.

OUR COORDINATORS HAVE HELD THREE ORIENTATIONS FOR NEW VOLUNTEERS IN APRIL, WHERE WE INTRODUCED 87 PEOPLE TO SHELTER PROGRAMS. AND 114 NEW VOLUNTEERS ATTENDED THEIR FIRST TRAINING.

UM, AS WE MENTIONED, THE, BEFORE THE FORKLIFT DANCE WORKS EVENT INTRODUCED AROUND A THOUSAND PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEERING AND FOSTERING FOR THE SHELTER.

UM, WE HAD 83 ANIMALS THAT WERE ADOPTED DIRECTLY FROM OUR FOSTER CARE.

AND THROUGH THE MONTH WE HAD 150 DIFFERENT PEOPLE, FAMILIES THAT FOSTERED FOR US.

UH, WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO PROCESS 108 NEW FOSTER APPLICATIONS AND WITHIN GIVE PULSE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 810 APPROVED FOSTERS WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

UM, 234 DOGS, CATS, GUINEA PIGS, RABBITS WERE TRANSFERRED TO 21 OF OUR LOCAL, UH, AAC PARTNERS.

AND 93 DOGS WERE TRANSPORTED TO THREE OUT-OF-STATE RESCUE PARTNERS.

UM, TWO OWNERS RENDER APPOINTMENTS WERE POSTED LOCAL AC RESCUE PARTNERS FOR INTAKE REFERRAL OPTIONS.

WITHIN VET SERVICES.

OUR VETS WERE ABLE TO PERFORM SEVEN OVER 700 EXAMS. WE SPAYED, UH, 367 ANIMALS.

UM, THERE'S 99% OF AVAILABLE ANIMALS HAVE BEEN STERILIZED.

UH, NO VISIBLY PREGNANT ANIMALS WERE, WERE SPAYED.

UM, WE TREATED 30, UH, 64 EMERGENCY CASES AND 56 EMERGENCY CASES WERE TRANSFERRED TO US FROM THE EDC.

UM, WE HAD AN ESTIMATE FROM THE EMERGENCY CLINIC AT 25,000, BUT WE ACTUALLY GOT THE, THE, THE CORRECT BILL AND IT WAS, OH, WE SPENT OVER $38,000 WITH ECU THIS PAST MONTH.

UM, WE HAD 27 ANIMALS RECEIVED ORTHOPEDIC SURGERIES WITH ANOTHER 23 RECEIVING SPECIALTY SURGERIES, UH, NUCLEATION AMPUTATIONS, MASTER REMOVAL, UH, APA

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WAS ABLE TO PULL 111 ANIMALS FROM US.

UM, AND WITHIN PRC, WE WERE ABLE TO HAND OUT OVER 1600 BASIC PET ITEMS TO, TO FOLKS THAT NEEDED IT.

UM, WE WERE ABLE TO DEFER $13 TO BEHAVIOR ISSUES AND WITHIN OUR LOST AND FOUND, UH, SYSTEMS 200 FOUND ANIMAL REPORTS TO REPORT IT.

AND 261 LOST ANIMALS WERE REPORTED.

I'LL KICK IT OVER TO DON FOR ANY ADDITIONAL AS WITH, WITH, UH, APRIL IN MARCH, WE SAW OUR INVENTORY GROW BY 69 ANIMALS.

UH, AND FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL, IT GREW BY 166 THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CAME IN VERSUS WHAT WE COULD GET OUT.

SO, UH, THAT IS THE TREND PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

SO I WAS PLEASED.

IT ONLY GREW BY 166.

SO STAFF'S DONE REAL WELL TO GET THEM OUT.

YOU MAY BE QUESTIONS.

YES.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, I'M LOOKING AT THE SPAY AND NEUTER, WHERE WAS IT? UH, SAID THAT, UH, 99% OF AVAILABLE ANIMALS HAVE BEEN STERILIZED? WHAT IS AVAILABLE ANIMALS MEAN THAT ARE ANIMALS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR SURGERY? THEY'RE NOT ON STRAY HOLD.

THEY ARE NOT MEDICALLY COMPROMISED.

UM, OR THEY'RE NOT TOO YOUNG.

OKAY.

UH, SO I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION OVER THE YEARS, UH, IS, UH, I THINK A POLICY THAT WE VOTED ON AT ONE POINT WAS TO SPAY OR NEUTER, UH, UH, AFTER SECOND IMPOUNDMENT.

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT THAT IS, THAT IS TRUE.

YES.

SO ARE YOU DOING THAT NOW? OKAY.

IF WE WILL DO IT, IF THEY WILL SIGN THE SPAY NEUTER FORM THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IT, BUT, UH, BECAUSE I FOUGHT, I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT I HAD THOUGHT THAT WE PASS THAT MEANT YOU COULD SAY NEW TO THEM WITHOUT THE CONSENT FORM.

DR.

LUND IS ON OUR, UH, ON THE, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF.

AND SHE CAN ANSWER THAT FOR US.

THE VETERINARY BOARD DISAGREES WITH THAT, THE VETERINARY BOARD DISAGREES WITH THAT.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE OWNER'S CONSENT, WE DO NOT, YOU DO NOT SPAY AND NEUTER THE ANIMAL.

OKAY.

WHICH MEANS WE NEED TO CHECK THAT WITH A CAUSE THAT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DISCREPANCY.

YEAH.

CAUSE I REMEMBER AT ONE TIME THE DISCUSSION WAS SPARING NEUTER AFTER FIRST IMPOUNDMENT.

AND WE VOTED ON THAT IN A, DID NOT PASS.

AND OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT BACKS WHAT DR.

LEN SAID, AND WON'T LET US DO IT WITHOUT A CONSENT FORM.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEP.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON, UM, THE RTOS ON THE GRAPH FOR THAT THEY SHOWED 137 ANIMALS RETURNED TO OWNER THIS MONTH.

AND THEN THESE 38 THAT WERE RETURNED BY ANIMAL PROTECTION IN THE FIELD.

THOSE ARE NOT PART OF THAT 1 37 ERA ADDITION TO CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

IN FACT, CAUSE WE DON'T ACTUALLY, WHEN THEY'RE ON THE TRUCK, WE DON'T ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY IMPOUND THE ANIMAL.

THEY JUST FIND THE OWNERS AND THEY CATEGORIZE AS AN ACTIVITY FOR OUR APS.

OKAY.

UM, MY SECOND QUESTION IS ON OWNER SURRENDER APPOINTMENTS.

UM, WHAT IS THE CURRENT WAIT PERIOD FOR AN OWNER SURRENDER APPOINTMENT AT AAC? I BELIEVE IT'S THREE WEEKS, BUT I'LL NEED TO VERIFY THAT.

SO THAT HAS NOT IMPROVED AT ALL BECAUSE I THINK A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THAT WAS THE SAME ANSWER.

SO THERE'S BEEN NO IMPROVEMENT.

YOU'RE NOT GETTING TO THESE APPOINTMENTS ANY QUICKER.

NO.

IN FACT, WHEN WE'RE REALLY A SPACE CRISIS, WHEN WE CALL FOLKS UP AND TRY TO DELAY IT BECAUSE KNOW THAT WAY WE CAN TRY TO MANAGE THE INTAKE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? QUESTION PALMER? YES.

GO AHEAD.

UH, JASON, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE END.

I'VE BEEN MEANING TO ASK THIS ON THE PRC, THE ASSISTANCE ITEMS YOU PUT IN 1600, I BELIEVE.

COULD YOU LET US KNOW WHAT THAT, WHAT, WHAT MAKES UP THAT 1600? YEAH.

SO IT'S, UM, WE PROVIDE FOOD CRATES, ANY, ANY SORT OF SUPPLIES THAT INDIVIDUALS MAY NEED, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS AND THEY SAY, WE, WE WERE LOOKING AT SURRENDER TO HIS DOG BECAUSE WE CAN'T FEED IT.

THEN WE'LL PROVIDE, WE'LL PROVIDE WHATEVER THEY NEED IN ORDER TO TRY TO KEEP THAT FAMILY TOGETHER.

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SO WE'VE PROVIDED 1600 NEW UNIQUE ITEMS IN THE PAST MONTH OR BASIC YEAH.

BASIC PET ITEMS. YES.

WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMING TO US FOR SUPPORT, WHATEVER SERVICE THAT THEY MAY NEED IN ORDER TO, COULD YOU LIKE, GIVE ME JUST KIND OF A LIKE GENERAL BREAKDOWN, LIKE PERCENTAGE WISE? WHAT, LIKE WHAT, WHAT THE BULK OF THAT IS KIND OF, THAT'S A LOT OF ITEMS IN A MONTH.

THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS.

OKAY.

I CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON TRYING TO BUILD THAT OUT.

WELL, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, IS THAT MAJORITY OF IT FOOD IS THE MAJORITY OF IT.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE MAJORITY ARE? THE TOP LIKE THREE OR FOUR ITEMS ARE IT'S THE MAJORITY IS FOOD.

SO HI, I'M KELSEY, CLAIRE.

I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER, REMARKETING COMMUNICATION.

I WAS PET RESOURCE CENTER SUPERVISOR.

UM, SO THE MAJORITY IS FOOD, UH, AND IT INCLUDES ITEMS GIVEN OUT BY OUR HOMELESSNESS FOR OUR OUTREACH PERSONNEL.

SO I WOULD SAY FOOD TREATS, UH, STUFF THAT'S DONATED.

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THINGS THAT WE WERE BUYING.

UM, IT'S DONATED THINGS THAT WE WERE GIVING OUT.

YEAH.

I'D BE INTERESTED AS JUST, UH, TO SEE MORE SPECIFICS ON THAT IF POSSIBLE.

AND, UM, JUST TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE NUMBER AND HOW THAT'S COUNTED AND HOW IT'S QUANTIFIED AND THEN JASON, ON YOUR MONTHLY REPORT, IT'S STILL REALLY DIFFICULT TO GAUGE WHEN YOU SAY WE DID X NUMBER OF SURGERIES THIS MONTH, IS THAT BETTER OR WORSE THAN LAST MONTH? IS THAT BETTER OR WORSE THAN LAST THAN THIS SAME MONTH? LAST YEAR? CAN WE START GETTING SOME OF THAT INFORMATION? SO WHEN YOU GIVE US THIS, UH, WHEN YOU GIVE US YOUR VERBAL REPORT, WE HAVE SOME COMPARISONS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DRAW SOME CONCLUSIONS ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS.

YEAH.

I CAN TRY TO WORK THAT INTO THE OVERALL NARRATIVE JUST TO BUILD THAT CONTEXT OF IF IT WAS AN IMPROVEMENT OR IF IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE NEXT MONTH, I'D EITHER PERCENTAGE OR JUST OVERALL HARD NUMBERS.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW IF WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOWER IN SOMETHING OR HIGHER IN SOMETHING AND WHY, AND CAN WE DO MORE OF TO INCREASE THAT OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO MORE OF? AND I JUST THINK SOME CONTEXT OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY, THANK YOU, PALMER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE.

YES.

GO AHEAD.

UM, SO I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ONE OF THE COMMENTERS HAD JUST TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE FOSTERS AND IN YOUR REPORT, IT SAYS THERE ARE 235 ANIMALS IN FOSTER CARE AND THERE ARE 810 APPROVED FOSTERS.

SO IS ANYTHING BEING DONE TO KIND OF TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GET THOSE THE OTHER 600 OR SO MORE ENGAGED AND, AND TAKING ANIMALS? CAUSE I'M GUESSING THAT IF THERE'S 235 ANIMALS IN FOSTER, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT EVEN 235 INDIVIDUAL FOSTERS THAT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE HAVE SOME ROOM TO ENGAGE THOSE ADDITIONAL FOSTERS.

UH THAT'S CORRECT.

WE, UH, WE SEND PLEASE ON A REGULAR BASIS TO, TO EVERYONE IN OUR SYSTEM, JUST TO HELP OUT WITH ANY SPACE OR, OR PULL ANY ANIMALS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO REMIND THEM TOO, THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR INVENTORY HAS CHANGED.

SO THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THEY MAY BE INTERESTED IN OR ARE HELPING US OUT WITH.

WE'D BE APPRECIATIVE OF IT.

SO YES, WE REGULARLY SEND THEM MESSAGES TO, TO GAUGE THEIR INTEREST, SOME OF THE 810, JUST NEWER TOO.

AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY HAVEN'T JOINED IN YET.

UM, GO AHEAD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.

WE, WE, WE KEEP THEM ON, ON THE LIST.

THEY'VE, THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, THEY LIST OUT WHAT THEY MAY BE INTERESTED OR WHAT THEY COULD ACCOMMODATE IN WHATEVER HOUSEHOLD SITUATION THEY HAVE.

UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IT COULD WORK OUT FOR US WHERE WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH, WITH A POPULATION ISSUE.

UM, YOU KNOW, BUT YEAH, WE, WE, WE HOPE WE HOPE AND SEND OUT WHATEVER WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AND IF THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND ON, ON TAKING A MEDIUM TO LARGE DOG THAT YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO PROCESS IT AND GET IT DONE.

JENN FATES.

PARDON ME.

UM, AND THEN I HAVE QUESTION ABOUT THE 93 DOGS TRANSPORTED TO THREE OUT-OF-STATE RESCUE PARTNERS.

WHERE DID THEY GO? HELLO.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

OKAY.

I'M NICOLE.

UM, SO WE SENT A GROUP OF DOGS TO NORTHWOODS AND THEN FOR THIS MONTH, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

YES, WE'RE IN THIS ONE.

SO MIDWEST ANIMAL RESCUE AND SERVICES IN MINNESOTA, UH, NORTHWOODS AND CATKINS ANIMAL RESCUE BOTH IN WISCONSIN.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANKS.

THANKS.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

LET ME LOOK HERE REAL QUICK.

OH, JUST A REAL

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QUICK QUESTION.

I TAKE IT.

THE PET RESOURCE CENTER IS STILL ONLY OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DID BIA HAVE SOME QUESTIONS? YES.

OH, HAPPY, UH, COMMON, UH, COMMENT.

UM, THAT WHAT PALMER SHARED ABOUT THE REPORTING.

I AGREE WITH HER.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS TYPE OF REPORT THAT WE GOT FOR APRIL, I MEAN, YOU PROVIDE ALL THOSE STATS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT TAKE PINE AND ANSWERED.

UH, BUT WE NEED TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST GETTING THE APP.

YOU'RE NOT SAYING, IS IT BETTER THAN LAST MONTH OR NOT, OR WORDS OR, OR IF IT'S THE SAME AND ALSO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR.

WHY? SO I JUST WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE THAT, THAT THAT WILL BE REALLY KEY TO BE ABLE TO HELP HELP YOU.

AND IT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

K.

DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UH, UH, RYAN? YEAH, I HAD QUESTIONS ON, UM, AND AGAIN, I KNOW THAT SOCIAL MEDIA CAN BE WRONG, BUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA THERE'S BEEN REPORTS OF, UM, DOG DEATHS IN THE SHELTER AND ALSO DEATHS ON THE TRANSPORTS, BUT NONE OF THOSE ARE REPORTED, UH, IN THE DATA.

AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF, UH, IF THAT, IF THOSE SOCIAL MEDIA REPORTS WERE TRUE, UH, AND IF SO, WHY THEN IT BEING REPORTED? YEAH.

AND ON THE REPORT, WE HAD, UH, TWO CATS THAT DIED IN APRIL AND ONE PIT BULL, UM, AND ONE DOG, UH, AS NOT SURE IF IT WAS MAYBE A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD, I CAN INVESTIGATE MORE.

AM I, AM I LOOKING AT THE WRONG PAGE? BECAUSE THE PAGE THAT I'M LOOKING AT SAYS ANIMAL DEATHS AND SHELTER FOSTER CARE HAS JUST TWO KITTENS.

AND ACTUALLY I APOLOGIZE.

YES, THERE WAS IT'S DIFFERENT ON, UM, AND I WORKED WITH IT BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE HAS SAID FOR ANIMALS TO BE DONE AND IT DIDN'T INCLUDE CERTAIN THEM.

IT DIDN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT WASN'T A CAT OR A DOG.

SO THE OVERALL DEATHS WE HAD OF OVERALL ANIMALS WAS SEVEN.

AND THEN WE FOUND A PIT BULL THAT WAS MISSING FROM THE DATA, BUT THEY HAD FIXED IT.

SO IT NEEDS, I HAVE IT ON, ON MY INTERNAL REPORT.

AND SO, YES, I, I COMPLETELY FORGOT THAT THAT HAPPENED.

SO I CHECKED THE HICKEY ON THAT ONE.

AND THEN WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT DEATHS AND TRANSPORT? UM, ARE YOU AWARE OF DEATHS OF AAC, ANIMALS AND TRANSPORT? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES, DR.

PAGE, I AM THERE I'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE MY INEXPERIENCE IF I DO THIS INCORRECTLY, BUT, UM, I, I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ASK FOR DATA, WE'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND, UM, AND SO I'M, I'M ALSO WONDERING AS I'VE, AS I'VE WATCHED SOME OF THE MEETINGS, UM, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, SHARE A RATIONALE FOR IT.

THE DATA THEY'RE REQUESTING, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN, UM, PALMER WAS, UH, WAS DISCUSSING THE NUMBERS OF SURGERY AND WANTING IT TO BE ABLE TO INTERPRET IT IN TERMS OF BETTER ROARS, WELL, IS MORE SURGERIES BETTER, OR IS FEWER SURGERIES BETTER? I MEAN, IF THERE'S A GREATER NEED IN THE CITY FOR SURGERIES, YES.

DOING MORE SURGERIES IS BETTER.

HOWEVER, IF WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITIES SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN PETS, THEN NEEDING TO DO FEWER SURGERIES IS BETTER.

SO I JUST WONDER IF, IF AS COMMISSIONERS, WE COULD THINK, THINK MORE ABOUT THE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ANSWER AND, AND WHAT THE DATA REALLY NEEDS TO BE TO GET TO GET THAT RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST A GUT FEELING OF, I WANT TO KNOW THESE NUMBERS.

UH, OKAY.

SO, BUT THAT WE, UH, PALMER'S RIGHT HERE AND WE ASK HER YEAH.

YES.

PALMER.

AH, THANK YOU.

I'D BE HAPPY TO YEAH.

THAT EXAMPLE THAT I GAVE, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW OUR, WITH THE SHORTAGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH COVID WITH THE S THE, UH, SPACE CRISIS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW, UM, IF, IF WE WERE REPORTING THAT OUR SPAIN NEUTERS HAVE DECREASED, UH, ANNUALLY OR MONTHLY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A BAD THING, BUT WHY IS IT DECREASED BECAUSE THEY'RE FEWER ANIMALS

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GOING IN AND OUT OF THE SHELTER? HAS IT DECREASED BECAUSE WE ARE SHORT-STAFFED HAS IT DECREASED BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE ANIMALS COMING THROUGH THE SHELTER THAT ARE ALREADY SPAYED OR NEUTERED.

SO I THINK THAT THE INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT AND THEN LOOKING AT THE TREND MAY HELP GUIDE US INTO WHAT THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS WOULD BE REGARDING THAT TREND.

OKAY.

DOES THAT HELP EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT? UH, YES.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NO RATIONALE FOR NEEDING THE DATA, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD MAKE IT, TRY TO MAKE IT CLEARER, WHAT OUR RATIONALE IS.

TH THAT IS, THAT'S A SUGGESTION WE CAN TAKE AND, AND TRY TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

UH, KRISTEN, THANK YOU.

UM, WHAT IS THE CURRENT INVENTORY OF ANIMALS? BOTH IN FOSTER AND SHELTER? I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE THAT, UH, CATS AND DOGS.

I GET, I MEAN, NOT WHILE, NOT INCLUDING WILDLIFE, I GUESS.

AND IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN REAL QUICK THAT THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY QUESTION TO YOU, BECAUSE WHAT I SAW, THE ONLY THING I SAW WAS ON YOUR REPORT, PAGE NINE OF 36, IT LOOKED LIKE IT SAID THE INVENTORY WAS 360 7, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE DATE WAS, SORRY TO JUMP IN, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HELP CLARIFY.

AND THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER WILL BE THE DAY OF WHEN THE DATA REFRESHES.

SO IT COULD POSSIBLY BE AS A, YESTERDAY, IT WAS 367, BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S JUST ALL ANIMALS AND NOT A BREAKDOWN BETWEEN CATS OR DOG OR SO THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 700 ANIMALS TOTAL IN INVENTORY BETWEEN FOSTER AND THE SHELTER.

I DON'T KNOW.

I CAN GET THOSE ANYMORE.

SORRY.

IT'S JUST PULLING UP OUR INVENTORY REPORT.

818 TOTAL ANIMALS IN FOSTER.

UM, AND, AND AT SITE, IF THERE ARE 367 IN SHELTER AND 235 AND FOSTER THERE'S 539 IN SHELTER SO THERE'S 539 IN SHELTER AND 235 AND FOSTER 2 77.

SO THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 274 ANIMALS, OR I'M SORRY, 774 ANIMALS TOTAL IN CUSTODY.

I DON'T HAVE THE DATA.

UH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT OUR AUTOMATIC INVENTORY REPORT AND IT SAYS THERE'S 818 ANIMALS TOTAL.

UM, AND THEN 539 THAT ARE AT THE SHELTER 277 THAT ARE, UM, NOT AT THE SHELTER.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND OTHER 56 EMERGENCIES THAT WERE SENT TO AN OFFSITE CLINIC THIS MONTH, ARE THOSE COUNTED IN INTAKES? YES.

WE'LL COUNT THOSE INTAKES CAUSE THEY GET TRANSFERRED TO US FROM THE EMERGENCY CLINIC AND THEN WE'LL OFFICIALLY IMPOUND THEM WITH A NUMBERS.

DO WE KNOW THE LIVE OUTCOME RATE OF THOSE ANIMALS? UH, I ACTUALLY DON'T BUT OFF TO GET WITH DR.

LONDON ON THAT.

SO IF THEY'RE DIE, IF THEY DIE IN, THEY'RE NOT TRANSFERRED TO THE SHELTER, THEY'RE NOT COUNTED INTO THE LIVE OUTCOME RATE.

UH, NO, CAUSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IMPOUNDED BY THE SHELTER.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH.

YES.

SORRY.

I HAVE ONE MORE JUST BASED ON WHAT WE JUST HEARD THEN.

SO I GUESS, JASON, WHAT AM I LOOKING AT THEN WHEN I SEE 367 ON PAGE NINE OF 36 OF THAT REPORT OF NUMBER OF DOG OR EXCUSE ME, NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT ARE AT THE SHELTER AND NOW TODAY WHERE YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE YESTERDAY'S NUMBER, BUT THEN TODAY'S NUMBER IS 5 39.

SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND WHAT DATA IS CORRECT.

AND YOU KNOW, IF IT CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE THAT QUICKLY, I KIND OF DOUBT IT.

SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING HOW DO I ASSESS THIS DATA WHEN IT'S KIND OF WILDLY DIFFERENT IF IT'S ONLY 24 HOURS DIFFERENCE IN THAT NUMBER? OH, HOLD ON.

I'M TRYING TO SEE THE REPORT THAT WE HAD.

YEAH.

BUT IF IT'S COUNTY AND LOSS, THE COUNTY AND LAST

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ON HERE YEAH.

SORRY.

IT'S PAGE NINE.

PDF PAGE 9 36 PAGER.

SO SPADE NUDE NEUTERED AT SHELTER.

SO MAYBE THAT'S THE DISTINCTION.

YES, BECAUSE THAT, FOR THAT NUMBER, THAT 360 7 IS HOW MANY SPINNERS WE DID FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL.

UM, NOT NECESSARILY INVENTORY.

YEAH.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO PULL UP, UM, A REPORT THAT IS RUN THROUGH CHAMELEON, UM, ABOUT THE OVERALL ACTUAL INVENTORY.

ALRIGHT, LET ME SEE IF I CAN JUST RUN THAT MYSELF REAL QUICK.

THANKS.

I'M SORRY.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BELABOR IT.

I JUST, I'M TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND.

WHAT'S REALLY AT THE SHELTER SLASH MAYBE NOT AT THE SHELTER AND TOTAL INVENTORY, LIKE CHRISTINA'S OKAY.

DID SOMEONE, UH, KATIE HAD A QUESTION? YES.

IT WAS JUST RELATED TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE SPAY AND NEUTER ON SECOND IMPOUNDMENT.

UM, I KNOW THAT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT TO FIND OUT THE LEGALITIES OF IT.

AND I WAS HOPING THAT THE OPINION FROM THE VETERINARY BOARD COULD BE SHARED WITH US, THE WRITTEN OPINION THAT DR.

LON GOT FROM THE VET BOARD ABOUT THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF YOU SHARED IT WITH US WHILE WE'RE DOING A LITTLE DIGGING AND INVESTIGATIVE WORK, IS IT POSSIBLE TO EMAIL IT AFTER? AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS TODAY AND WE'LL ALSO GET WHAT WELL AS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, IF WE CAN SHARE WHAT THEIR RESPONSE WAS, AS WELL AS THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, WELL, LET'S MOVE ON.

UH,

[2b. COVID Update]

UH, THE COVID UPDATE.

WE STILL HAVE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE GETTING ILL AND TAKING OFF, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS WE DID, UH, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THE RATE IN OUR COMMUNITY DROPPING, UH, OUR MAIN ISSUE IS NOT AS ILLNESS RIGHT NOW, BUT AS, UH, BEING ABLE TO GET STAFF TO ONBOARDING, YOU KNOW, WE WILL FILL THE POSITIONS, GO THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS.

THEY WORK ONE DAY AND IT'S NOT FOR THEM.

SO, UH, TEMPORARY IS OF COURSE WAS THE HARDEST TO FAIL BECAUSE, UH, THEY WILL FIND A, YOU KNOW, A FULL-TIME PERMANENT JOB.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

SOME WITH OUR STAFFING ISSUES, A LITTLE LIGHTER, UH, AT, WITH DO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO REPORT ON COVID SINCE IT'S KIND OF LIKE A THING THAT'S GOING AWAY.

THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.

I MEAN, JUST IT, IT WAS ON HERE.

SO JUST TO MENTION, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THOSE JOBS THOUGH.

UH, HOWARD, THE HIRING FOR THOSE JOBS GOING WELL, WE'VE GOT, UH, LOTS OF JOBS IN INTERVIEWS RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE GOT A LOT IN BACKGROUND CHECKS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE OFFERS THAT ARE OUT.

UH, THERE WAS, UH, ALL OUR POSTINGS CLOSED AND THEN WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF PUTTING MORE POSTINGS OUT THERE FOR SOME THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE CAME AVAILABLE.

AND SO I KNOW OUR HR DEPARTMENT IS, UH, WORKING FRANTICALLY, BUT IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, A PROCESS TO GET THE FULL-TIME JOBS FILLED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST TAKES SO LONG WITH IT WHEN THE CITY WITH THE CITY PROCESS.

BUT, UH, THE TEMPORARIES ARE THE, WHAT WE'RE REALLY HAVING THE HARDEST WITH BECAUSE, UH, YOU OFFERING A WAGE THAT'S NOW, UH, COMPETITIVE AND THEY WANT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE FULL-TIME THAN JUST A PART-TIME TEMPORARY.

OKAY.

SO DO YOU HAVE A, A NUMBER OF HOW MANY FULL-TIME JOBS ARE STILL ARE, ARE, ARE STILL NOT FILLED? APPROXIMATE WOULD BE, UH, I, I WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S AROUND FOUR TO SIX THAT ARE FULL-TIME, THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS.

THEY'RE THERE IN INTERVIEWS ARE BACKGROUND CHECKS.

UH, THE MAJORITY OF OUR OPENINGS RIGHT NOW ARE TEMPORARIES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY, YES, KRISTEN, YOU STATED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO GET STOPPING LEVELS UP FROM THE LOW OF SEVEN, I THINK THE HIGH YOU HAD 17 VACANCIES.

SO NOW YOU'RE AT FOUR TO SIX.

ARE YOU PLANNING ON REOPENING ON SUNDAYS GIVEN THAT THE VACANCY RATE IS NORMAL OR BETTER THAN NORMAL? IF IT'S FOUR TO SIX, NOT AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE JOBS OR TEMPORARIES, THE MAJORITY OF OUR PUBLIC RESOURCE CENTER WAS TEMPORARY STAFF.

AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE THAT SHOWED UP, WORKED ONE DAY AND SAID, THIS IS TOO DIFFICULT AND I'M OUT OF HERE.

SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FILL THOSE

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POSITIONS.

OKAY.

UH, OKAY.

LET'S UH, MOVE ON THEN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, WHO DO YOU HAVE? ONE ON THE SCREEN? YES.

OKAY.

BIA.

YES.

I I'M CURIOUS, DO YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, THERE, THERE ARE THREE NEW OPENINGS OR BECAME OPEN THE DROPS OPEN, SO THAT'S TURNOVER IS APPARENT OR, UH, COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? OH, OKAY.

SO I HEARD THAT THERE WERE THREE JOBS THAT PHONE WHEN YOU BECAME OPEN, SO THAT, THAT THEY BECOME OPEN BECAUSE OF TURNOVER.

IS IT HARD TO RETAIN PEOPLE? UH, THE, SOME OF THE FULL-TIME JOBS HAVE TAKEN OTHER JOBS WITHIN THE CITY.

UH, WE'VE HAD, WE, I KNOW WE LOST ONE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, TO PUBLIC HEALTH.

SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO OTHER POSITIONS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN INCREASE FOR THEM, UM, WHO PALMER PALMER.

YEAH.

UM, I GUESS DON, YOU WERE MENTIONING IS THAT IT FOR COVID, ARE WE MEANING UPDATE TODAY OR ON KEEPING THIS AS A REGULAR ITEM TO REPORT ON THE LADDER, KEEPING IT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA? BECAUSE I THINK THAT ONE ITEM THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REGULARLY UNDER THIS ITEM, WHICH IS THE S UM, STILL MEAT, I'D STILL LIKE TO HAVE THAT AS AN ITEM THAT'S DISCUSSED.

AND I WAS WONDERING, COULD WE VISIT ABOUT THAT SINCE WE'VE HAD IT UNDER THIS ITEM PREVIOUSLY, UM, NOW YOU HAD PROVIDED SOME DATA, UM, UH, REGARDING THE SPACE CRISIS ON THE SUNDAY CLOSURES AND THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IS DIFFERENT.

FROM WHAT WE HAD BEEN TOLD, I WENT THROUGH THE PAST THREE MEETINGS, FOUR MEETINGS, AND REGARDING THE TRANSCRIPTS AND THE INFORMATION WE WERE GIVEN ON WHY SUNDAY WAS CHOSEN.

AND NOW WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED WITH SOME DATA THAT, THAT CHANGES THE REASONING A LITTLE BIT.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO US.

UH, I DIDN'T KNOW, THE DATA CHANGED THE, THE RE THE REPORT THAT YOU GOT WERE THE FIRST ONES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE RAN THE DATA AND SHOWED THAT SUNDAY WAS ONE OF THE LOWEST INTAKE AND NEXT TO THE LOWEST, UH, FAR ADOPTION.

SO THAT, THAT DATA THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT SAME.

SO OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE DATA AND SAID THAT IT WASN'T THE SITE THAT DIDN'T AGREE WITH WHAT WE WERE SAYING.

WHAT I WAS UNABLE TO FIND IN PAST DISCUSSION OF THIS WAS WHAT YOU JUST QUOTED, WHICH WAS THAT THE REASON WAS IT WAS THE LOWEST DAY FOR INTAKE AND ONE OF THE LOWEST DAYS FOR ADOPTION, EVERY PLACE THAT I WENT THROUGH IT, AND IT TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WERE QUOTED AND GIVEN INFORMATION THAT IT WAS THE LOWEST STATE FOR ADOPTIONS.

AND SO I WAS WONDERING, UM, WHEN THAT CHANGED AND WHEN WE WERE ORIGINALLY GIVEN THAT INFORMATION, WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS DATA SUPPORTED.

SO I'M WONDERING, ARE WE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT SET OF DATA OR KIND OF WHAT'S CHANGED ON, UM, THE REPORT THAT WE'RE NOW BEING GIVEN? AND I DID SEE ON THE DATA THAT WAS RUN ON THE MOST RECENT EXPLANATION THAT YOU DID NOT INCLUDE, UM, 2022, BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WOULD SKEW THE NUMBERS DUE TO THE SUNDAY CLOSURES.

I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT WE ALSO RECEIVED THE DATA EXCLUDING COVID, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT SKEWS THE NUMBERS.

IF YOU MAYBE COULD PROVIDE US WITH THE INFORMATION FROM 2016 TO 2019 REGARDING SUNDAY'S, WE CAN, AND THAT IS THE READILY AVAILABLE, UH, ON THE PUBLIC DASHBOARD.

SO, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN RUN IT, ARE YOU, YOU CAN TOO, UH, IT'S, IT'S AVAILABLE THERE.

AND I THINK, UH, WHEN IT WAS LOOKED AT A FEW MEETINGS AGO, I THINK IT WAS SOMEONE ADDED, UH, UH, ALL ANIMALS.

AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT CATS AND DOGS.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ALL THE OTHER WILDLIFE THAT COMES IN OR EXITS OR ANYTHING THAT, THAT, BUT I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT'S CHANGED FROM THE PAST MEETINGS WAS WE'RE TALKING INTAKE NOW.

AND IN THE PAST MEETINGS, WE WERE TALKING OUTCOMES.

WELL, I DON'T, WE WERE ALWAYS TALKING BOTH.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE DIDN'T EXPLAIN THAT CORRECTLY, BUT WE WERE ALWAYS TALKING INCOMING OUTCOME BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR NUMBERS, THE LOWEST DAYS, FAR OUTCOMES AND INCOMES, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT DAY WOULD AFFECT THE PUBLIC THE LEAST.

AND DO WE

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HAVE INFORMATION, UH, AVAILABLE ON WHEN PEOPLE APPLY FOR ANIMALS SINCE WE'VE DISCUSSED THE OUTCOMES ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE DAY THAT THE PEOPLE COME TO THE SHELTER THAT IS ONLY AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR ADOPTIVE PET STATUS THAT STARTED, UH, WE ONLY HAVE A YEAR'S WORTH OF DATA ON THAT.

AND WHAT DOES THAT DATA SUPPORT? IT SUPPORTS THIS DATA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT SUPPORTS, I'M SORRY, WHAT IT SUPPORTS.

IT SUPPORTS SUNDAY BEING THE LOWEST IT'S SUPPORTS SUNDAY, BEING THE LOWEST ON, ON FIRST OR SECOND MOMENTS.

OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK THERE WAS ONE NUMBER DIFFERENCE 38 TO 39.

UH, SO IT'S SECOND LOWEST ON, UH, OUTCOMES, BUT LOWEST ON INCOMES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, RYAN.

YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY.

SO THE SUNDAY CLOSURES, THE INITIAL REASON WE WERE TOLD IS BECAUSE IT WAS COVID SO COVID IS NOT A REASON ANYMORE, RIGHT? IT WAS STAFFING, UH, FOR THAT IT WAS STAFFING.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO KEEP SUNDAYS OPEN, AND IT WAS THROUGH COVID EXPOSURES.

IT WAS THROUGH ILLNESS AND AS WELL AS OPEN POSITIONS, THAT COVID IS NO LONGER, THE REASON WE'RE CLOSED ON