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[Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order]

[00:00:03]

ALL RIGHT.

UM, FOLKS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

UH, THIS IS THE MAY 10TH, 2022 MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND WE'RE ADJOURNING HERE AT S UH, OR BRING THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 6 0 6 AND GOING TO GO AND START WITH A ROLL CALL.

UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE ROLL FROM THOSE HERE ON THE DICE.

AND THEN I'LL MOVE TO THOSE THAT ARE VIRTUALLY ON THE SCREEN.

AND I'LL START HERE ON MY LEFT AND MOVED TO THE RIGHT.

UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE.

THIS YOUR CHAIR, TODD SHAW AND COMMISSIONER SHEA HERE.

MR. THOMPSON HERE IS FOR MR. TODDLER.

YEAH.

MR. ANDERSON HERE, AND THEN ON THE SCREEN, WE'RE MOVING.

UM, GOING IN THE ORDER.

I SEE YOU GUYS FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, UH, COMMISSIONER YANAS PALITO HERE.

VICE-CHAIR HEMPEL, UH, COMMISSIONER COX HERE, COMMISSIONER HOWARD COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER HERE, COMMISSIONER PRAXIS AND COMMISSIONER FLORES.

AND WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, ALSO JOIN THE US LATER.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR, UH, EX-OFFICIO, UH, CHAIR COHEN FROM THE BOARDS OF ADJUSTMENT.

UH, I THINK SHE'S JUST RUN A LITTLE LATE.

OKAY.

UM, NEXT ITEM.

I JUST WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THIS IS A HYBRID MEETING, SO WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF COMMISSIONERS HERE ON THE DAYAS AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN.

WE ALSO HAVE SPEAKERS, UH, THAT ARE HERE IN PERSON.

THANK YOU.

UM, IT'S KIND OF GETTING SOMEWHAT BACK TO NORMAL, BUT, UH, WE ALSO HAVE, WE ARE ENABLING PEOPLE TO SPEAK, UH, CALL IN AND SPEAK AS WELL.

SO THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT A HYBRID MEETING.

UH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

IF YOU'RE WE HAD A LOT OF ITEMS IT'S KIND OF DROPPED DOWN TO A DINKY DISCUSSION, A POSTPONEMENT AND ONE DISCUSSION CASE, AND UNLESS, UM, WE PULL ANY, UH, BUT IF YOUR ITEM IS NOT THE FIRST, YOU CAN WAIT OUT IN THE ATRIUM AND YOU'LL GET A NOTICE WHEN YOUR ITEM, UH, IS ABOUT 15 MINUTES OUT FROM THE ITEM COMING UP.

LET'S SEE.

UM, MR. RIVERA, ARE YOU GOING TO ASSIST WITH THE, UM, KINDA THE ANNOUNCING SPEAKERS? WHAT DO YOU START? YOU'RE THINKING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND I DIDN'T ASK EARLIER, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES, ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE FIRST READING OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, JUST REMIND THOSE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY, HAVE YOUR COLORS AVAILABLE AND I WILL BE READING OUT, UM, REMIND ME IF I DON'T, BUT I NEED TO ANNOUNCE THOSE THAT ARE, UH, VOTING AGAINST NOT IN THOSE ABSTAINING.

JUST SO THE PUBLIC KIND OF KNOWS HOW WE VOTED, UH, HERE AND LET'S SEE, UH, REMINDER, UH, THOSE ONLINE PLEASE REMAIN MUTED WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR HAND AND BE RECOGNIZED.

AND, UH, I'LL CALL ON, UH, COMMISSIONER OF EDS.

IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY RAISE THEIR HAND, UH, AND I'M NOT RECOGNIZING THEM, PLEASE HELP ME OUT.

UM, SINCE YOU'RE RIGHT HERE TO MY LEFT, THAT WOULD BE, UH, MUCH APPRECIATED.

UM, OKAY.

CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS? NO, NO CITIZENS

[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

COMMUNICATION.

UH, REAL QUICK, FIRST I, UH, A APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE WITH CHANGES TO THE APRIL 26TH, 2022 MEETING MINUTES? UH, I WAS NOT HERE.

UH, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR FOR CHAIRING THAT MEETING OF ANY, ANY CHANGES.

OKAY.

THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES.

UH, WE'LL READ THOSE INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA THEN.

AND

[Reading of the Agenda]

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER FLORES TO DO THE FIRST READING OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT, YOU HAVE GOT, YOU STATED JUST KNOW MOMENT AGO, A ONE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 26TH, 2020 TO, UH, BE PUBLIC HEARINGS B ONE REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 0 3 CLAYTON LANE.

RESIDENCES.

THAT ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

BE TO PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 1 9 0.01 AND S H KATY LOSS ITEM.

UM, ALONG WITH B3 IS UP FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTS, JUNE 14TH, AND THE APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO MAY 24TH.

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UH, B3 IS REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 1 9 1 S H.

KATIE LOSS.

THAT ITEM AGAIN IS UP FOR POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT TO JUNE 14TH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE APPLICANT AMENABLE TO MAY 24TH BEFORE REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 2 4.

HI, MS. DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

B FIVE REZONING C FOURTEEN TWENTY TWENTY TWO ZERO ZERO FOUR FIVE TEN THREE TWENTY ONE AND TEN FOUR ZERO ONE BARNETT ROAD.

AN ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT BASICS, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 3 1 REMOVE THE VEHICULAR ACCESS RESTRICTION TOMORROW STREET.

THAT ITEM IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 24TH.

THE SEVEN REZONING SEE 14 20 21 0 1 7 9 OH VIA TWIN LIQUORS THAT I AM ITEMS UP FOR CONSENT B EIGHT REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 0 9 50 FIRST STREET RESIDENCES.

THAT ITEM IS UP FOR APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 24TH BENIGN PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 21 0 0 1 5 0.0 FOUR SIXTY SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN OH TWO SIXTY SEVEN OH FOUR AND 67 0 6 VIRGINIA ROAD.

THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

B 10 REZONING C 14 20 21 0 1 5 7 6600 6702 6704 AND 67 0 6 ROUTINE ROAD.

THAT ITEM IS FOR CONSENT.

THE 11 PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 21 0 0 1 5 0.0 360 6 0 3 VIRGINIA ROAD.

BUT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

THE 12 REZONINGS C 14 20 21 0 1 5 8 66 0 3 REJEAN ROAD.

THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

EIGHT 13, C 14, UH, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 2 6 7 0 8 EAST 12TH STREET.

THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

THE 14 SITE PLAN COMPATIBILITY WAIVER REQUEST CP S P E 20 21 0 1 0 TO C 1400 CEDAR AVENUE.

THAT ITEM IS, UH, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 24TH, AND THERE IS A CORRECTION, UM, THAT IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

UM, B 14 RIGHT AWAY, VACATION SP 20 21 0 3 7 5 C S H AND S P 20 21 0 3 8 5 D S H CORNELL AVENUE RIGHT AWAY VACATION.

THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

BE 16 RIGHT AWAY, VACATION SP 20 21 0 0 7 9 C SKY MOUNTAIN DRIVE RIGHT AWAY.

VACATION ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

BE 17 RIGHT AWAY, VACATION COMAL STREET RIGHT AWAY VACATION.

THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSIDERATION OF ITEM, DEFER TO COUNCIL WITH NO PC ACTION.

UH, B 18 SITE PLAN CASE SPC 20 21 0 2 8 6 C RAINY STREET.

TRAILHEAD.

THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT B 19 SUBDIVISION OUT OF PRELIMINARY PLAN C 8 20 20 0 0 3 3 0.18 SADDLE RIDGE AT WILD HORSE RANCH.

SECTION ONE, THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT DAY 23, SUBDIVISION C CA 20 19 0 0 0 7 0.0 A RE SUBDIVISION OF LOT ONE BLOCK M GEORGE AND ACRES SENT DIVISION.

THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT B 21 CODE AMENDMENT C 20 20 22 0 0 1 PUBLIC MOBILITY TRANSIT PROJECTS AND ASSOCIATED UTILITY PROJECTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT B 22 ELEMENT OF IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN B AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN UPDATE, AND THAT ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, AN ADDENDUM, A B 23 FINAL PLATFORM APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN C H J 2008 0 1 6 8 0.011 A AND TRY TO PHASE ONE, A SMALL LOT SUBDIVISION, AND THAT ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

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AND THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST READING CHAIR.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER FLORES.

[Consent Agenda]

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM ANY OF THE ITEMS THIS EVENING? COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? UM, I DON'T NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF, BUT ON ITEM B 16, UM, I, I DON'T NEED TO PULL IT, BUT I DON'T PARTICULARLY SUPPORT THE STREET VACATIONS AND I'M MAYBE VOTING AGAINST IT IS 16 SKY MOUNTAIN STREET VACATION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

LET ME GET OVER UP RIGHT THERE.

LET ME TRY AGAIN, VICE CHAIR.

HEMPEL THANK YOU.

YES.

UM, I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM E 18, THE RAINY STREET TRAIL HEAD, UM, I'M UH, ON THE BOARD FOR THE TRAIL FOUNDATION.

UM, SO JUST ABSTAINING FROM THIS VOTE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

DON'T SEE ANY OTHERS.

SO, UM, LET'S SEE.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE REQUESTED TO BE PULLED, UM, MR. RIVERA DURING, OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY REQUEST TO PULL ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE, I DO NOT WISH TO PULL AN ITEM.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 21, WHICH IS ON THE MOBILITY PROJECTS.

I JUST WANT TO TACK OUR STAFF WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD AND I HOPE WILL CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH FOLKS AS THIS GOES THROUGH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO READ THROUGH THIS ONE MORE TIME, A LITTLE, UM, LITTLE ABBREVIATED.

LET ME GO AND GET OVER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

STARTING WITH, UH, THE ONE, UH, REZONING.

IT'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM B TWO AND B THREE, OUR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

AND WE WILL TAKE THIS UP RIGHT AFTER WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, THAT'S NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTING JUNE 14TH.

APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO MAY 24TH.

UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

UM, I BELIEVE WE CAN UP TO HERE THAT IF WE WANT THIS EVENING, UH, THOSE ARE RIGHT.

WE CAN.

OKAY.

UM, SO THOSE AREN'T THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS, I GUESS IS MY POINT.

UH, OKAY.

B THREE THAT'S B2 AND B3.

YOU GOT THOSE BEFORE IT'S CONSENT.

UH, B FIVE REZONING CONSENT.

B SIX IS A REZONING OF NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 24TH, B SEVEN.

REZONE IS ON CONSENT B EIGHT REZONING APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 24TH.

UH, BENIGN PLAN AMENDMENT IS ON CONSENT.

B 10 REZONING IS ON CONSENT.

B 11 PLAN AMENDMENT ON CONSENT, V12 OR ZONING IS ON CONSENT.

B 13 REZONING IS ON CONSENT.

THE 14 APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 24TH.

AND AGAIN, CORRECTION, IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

THE 15 RIGHT AWAY VACATION IS ON CONSENT.

THESE 16 RIGHT AWAY VACATION IS ON CONSENT.

BE 17 RIGHT AWAY VACATION.

UH, THIS IS, UH, UH, CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM.

IT'S DEFERRED TO COUNCIL, NO PC ACTION, UH, B 18 SITE PLAN CLOSE CASE, UH, ON CONSENT IN 19 SUBDIVISION OUT A PRELIMINARY PLAN IS ON CONSENT.

AND JUST TO NOTE, IT'S A APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS IN EXHIBIT C AND THEN WE'VE GOT A, B 20 RECEPTIVE VISION IS ON CONSENT, B 21 CODE AMENDMENT ON CONSENT, B 22 ELEMENT OF, UM, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ON THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN UPDATE.

AND THEN WE HAD THE DEN DEMISE ITEM, A B 23 FINAL PLAT FROM A PRE-APPROVAL AREA PLAN.

THIS IS ALSO ON CONSENT.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE OUR MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR APPROVAL.

SO DO I HAVE, UM, A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? UH, COMMISSIONER ZAR, LET ME GET OVER HERE TO MY, UH, TRADITIONAL MR. TODDLER, SECOND SUIT.

[00:15:01]

AND SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

UH, LET'S START WITH THOSE ON THE DAYAS, UH, IN FAVOR THAT'S EVERYONE DOES ON THE SCREEN AND THAT'S UM, OKAY.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO ITEM B ONE, WHICH IS, UM, THE DISCUSSION REZONING AT, UH, CLAYTON LANE RESIDENCES.

SO WE'LL START WITH STAFF, JARED COMMISSIONING HE'S ON A HANDOVER.

ACTUALLY IT WILL TAKE UP THE DISCUSSION POSTPONING ITEM FOR OH, YES.

I APOLOGIZE.

DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT

[B2. Plan Amendment: NPA-2022-0019.01.SH - Cady Lofts; District 9]

ON B2.

UH, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM THE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM, HE WAS QUEUED UP.

SURE.

SO WE'LL HEAR FIRST FROM THE REQUESTERS OF THE POSTPONEMENT.

UM, SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH COHEN DILLAHUNTY FOLLOWED BY JOSHUA ELLINGER EACH WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

OKAY.

SO WE JUST HAVE TWO SPEAKERS PER SLIDE.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT WHEN WE GOT THE EMAIL FROM STAFF THAT SAID IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND, IT SAID THE, UH, THE PEOPLE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT WEB FIRST, IS THAT CUSTOMARY? NO.

UM, WE, UM, HOLD ON.

UH, WE'VE TYPICALLY WE HAVE REQUESTED AGAIN, AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT GO FIRST.

NO, THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT THE, BUT THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WAS SENT OUT BY STAFF OUT OF THE OTHER WAY AROUND, I DON'T ANYWAY, WE'RE, WE'RE FINE.

WELL, AS LONG AS DO WE HAVE EVERYONE HERE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YEP.

OKAY.

IS THERE A REBUTTAL THOUGH? CAUSE I WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER NO, THERE'S JUST TWO.

UH, EACH PARTY HAS TWO SPEAKERS, UH, THREE MINUTES FOR THE PRIMARY SPEAKER, TWO MINUTES FOR THE SECOND SPEAKER AND THEN IT GOES ON TO Q AND A AFTER THAT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

OH, HELLO.

UH, COHEN DILLAHUNTY FROM THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

I CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

OH YEAH, PLEASE PROCEED.

RIGHT.

WELL THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE FOR AN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT, UM, LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION WHILE ACTUALLY REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

ACTUALLY THE POSTPONEMENT IS FOR JUNE 28TH, NOT JUNE 14TH, THERE WAS A CONFLICT HERE.

SO 60 DAY POSTPONEMENT.

UM, AND I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH THE REASONS FOR DOING THAT NOW.

SO CONTRARY TO THE STATEMENTS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE HAD ADEQUATE DISCLOSURE FOR THIS, UH, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE FULL DOCUMENTATION PACKET UNTIL APRIL 1ST.

THIS WAS A T H CD FINANCING APPLICATION.

WE HAD HAD EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS AND ALSO, UM, A FEW POWERPOINT AND MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALL THE FACTUAL INFORMATION WAS INCLUDED IN THIS APRIL ONE PACKET.

SO EVEN AFTER WE BECAME AWARE OF THIS 200 PLUS PAGE REPORT, IT TOOK US SEVERAL WEEKS TO REVIEW THAT REPORT.

AND THAT PUSHES THE TIMELINE FURTHER AHEAD.

AND THEN ON APRIL 7TH, THERE WAS A CITY HOSTED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ZOOM MEETING THAT EACH AND WE CONDUCTED A FOLLOW-UP ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING IN H AND A ON APRIL 20TH.

AND DURING THAT MEETING, THE APPLICANT PRESENTED TO PROPOSED SITE PLANS.

IN ADDITION TO THE ADDITIONAL OPTION, BOTH WITH DIFFERENT ZONING REQUIREMENTS, HEIGHT AND COVER REQUIREMENTS EFFECTIVELY RESETTING THE OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION H AND A IS STILL CURRENTLY UNCERTAIN, WHICH SITE PLAN THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO PURSUE.

AND THEN BASED ON THE INFORMATION FROM THE APRIL 20TH MEETING H AND A RUSH TO HOLD A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF ITS MEMBERS ON APRIL 28TH, DURING THAT SPECIAL MEETING, THE MEMBER VOTING MEMBERSHIP VOTED 87.5% TO OPPOSE THE PROJECT AND BEGIN THE PROCESS OF RETAINING EXPERTS NEEDED TO OPPOSE AND CONTEST.

THE PROJECT FURTHER.

KANPAK HAS NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT IT CAN PROVIDE ITS RECOMMENDATION.

THE MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 16TH.

ALTHOUGH KANPAK HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TO JUNE 14TH TO GIVE TIME TO FULLY REVIEW THE APPLICANTS PLAN AND H AND H CONCERNS H AND A SIMPLY ASKED FOR AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY HAD IN DEVELOPING THE PROJECT, WHICH IS 60 DAYS FROM TODAY'S DATE.

THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY BEGAN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT IN AN EARLIER FORM IN 2020, AND I'VE GOT SOME EXHIBITS IN IT THAT ARE ATTACHED IN EMAIL, UM, UNBENOUNCED H AND A NUMEROUS LETTERS AND DOCUMENTS SHOW THE CITY STAFF AND HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAKA HAVE BEEN PRIVATELY WORKING ON THIS PROJECT WITH THE APPLICANT IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH OF 2022

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MONTHS BEFORE THE COMMUNITY MEETING, IT WAS NOT FULLY DISCLOSED THAT HAKA HAD AGREED TO BUY THREE LOTS ON 39TH STREET THAT CITY AGENCIES HAD AGREED TO.

AND THAT CITY AGENCIES HAD FUND WOULD FUND A VOUCHER REVENUE STREAM FOR THIS PROJECT SINCE THE APPLICANT CITY.

AND HACA HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE PROJECT FOR OVER TWO MONTHS, H AND M NOW NEEDS EQUAL TIME, AT LEAST TWO MONTHS TO HAVE ITS EXPERTS REVIEW MATERIALS AND PREPARE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, BUT THAT'S THREE MINUTES.

IS THAT CORRECT? I THOUGHT I HAD FIVE MINUTES AS THE NO DISCUSSION POST FOAM.

IT'S IT'S THREE AND TWO.

UH, YOU'RE THE PRIMARY SPEAKER.

YOU GET THREE, I'VE GOT, I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW MORE MOMENTS TO, FOR CLOSING ARGUMENTS.

UH, WE NEED TIME TO SECURE EXPERTS FOR THIS PROJECT, INCLUDING ARCHITECTS, CIVIL ENGINEERS, AND LEGAL.

THOSE EXPERTS WILL TAKE SIGNIFICANT TIME TO LINE UP.

IT CAN BE SEVERAL WINKS TO SCHEDULE AND A FEW AFTER THAT FOR REPORTS.

AND EVEN THOUGH THE APPLICANT HAS DEADLINES THAT THEY NEED TO MEET THIS, WE HAVE DEADLINES, UM, AND THINGS WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON FOR A PROJECT THAT WILL LAST 50 YEARS ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FEDERATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM JOSHUA ELLEN GERRY.

MR. ALGER.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

I HAVE A POWERPOINT SLIDE.

OKAY.

UM, YOU GUYS GOT A CUDA OR DO YOU DOES NOT ACTUALLY SHOW YOU DON'T SHOW THE POWERPOINT DURING THE CALL, WHICH, UH, SO I, I, I GAVE STAFF A POWERPOINT SLIDE, JOSHUA ALINKA.

WELL, YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO WORK THIS OUT AND THEN WE'LL START YOUR TONGUE.

NO PROBLEM.

WE COULD JUST POSTPONE THIS OR TWO WEEKS AND COME BACK AND DO THE POSTPARTUM.

AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST GETTING .

ALL RIGHT.

ARE WE READY? GO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M JOSHUA ELLINGER.

I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

I'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

UM, AND IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO THIS IS A RARE CASE IN WHICH A FLUM AMENDMENT, UM, ACTUALLY DESERVES AN INFINITE, UH, INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT, WHICH YOU DON'T NORMALLY DO.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, AS, YOU KNOW, TEXT DOC THINKS THAT HIGHWAY SHOULD BE BIG AND VERY, VERY WIDE, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO GET, UM, A NUMBER OF LOTS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN TAKEN FROM THE HIGHWAY, WHICH KIND OF RESETS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN EAST HANCOCK BY QUITE A BIT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

ACTUALLY, THIS IS REALLY MORE THE NEAR NEIGHBORS, UH, FROM TALKING TO THEM AS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR UP TO EIGHT ACRES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEAR THE HIGHWAY, BUT TO MAINTAIN COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND ACTUALLY IT ALIGNS WITH

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THE EXISTING FLOM.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY.

INSTEAD, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO PUT TOGETHER AN EFFORT WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.

AND SO WE WANT A INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT OF THE FLAMAN MEANT TO GIVE US TIME TO DO THIS, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, FOR ZONING.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A DIFFERENT CASE FOR POSTPONEMENT.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIT MORE INFORMATION.

WE'LL ACTUALLY NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO THEY'RE IN A COMPETITIVE SITUATION AGAINST A DEVELOPMENT CALLED THE LANCASTER, AND THEY'RE LEADING BY ONE POINT, WE HAVE CONTESTED A NUMBER OF POINTS WITH THE STATE AND INCLUDING SOME THINGS THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET EASILY.

AND IF THIS CHANGES BY A SINGLE POINT, ACTUALLY REALLY TWO, THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET FUNDED FOR THE CYCLE.

AND SO IT'S PREMATURE FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THIS CASE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

WE SHOULD WAIT A MONTH OR 60 DAYS TO GET THE FINAL SCORE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND IN FACT, KATIE LOSS DOES NOT ACTUALLY NEED THE ZONING CHANGE.

THEY NEED CLAIM TO NEED BY AUGUST.

THEY'VE PRESENTED US A PLAN THAT SAYS THEY CAN DO A SIX STORY RESIDENTIAL TOWER.

UM, THERE'S NO REAL TIME PRESSURE.

UH, THEN WHAT LAST SLIDE PLEASE? UM, IT'S ALSO KIND OF BAD PUBLIC POLICY IN MY MIND TO, TO, UH, LET THEM HAVE AN EXPLODING OFFER TO FORCE A TIME SCHEDULE WHEN THEY DON'T REALLY NEED IT.

SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO, UH, SET UP SET AN EXAMPLE AND ACTUALLY DELAY IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS, MISS MEGAN LASH.

THIS LASH YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES FOLLOWED BY KATIE MORE.

DO I HAVE CONTROL OF THE SLIDES? OKAY, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS MEGAN LASH.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF OSA INDUSTRIES.

UM, THIS PROJECT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE AUSTIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COALITION, A NON-PROFIT ARM OF HAKA AND SGI VENTURES.

A WOMEN OWNED AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER, SAGE BOOK DEVELOPMENT, AND OSA INDUSTRIES ARE THE DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANTS FOR THIS PROJECT, ALONG WITH NEW HOPE HOUSING, UM, WHICH WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE OUR HIGHLY REGARDED PSH DEVELOPER, THIS TEAM HAS 20 PLUS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND AFFORDABLE MULTI-FAMILY IN TEXAS.

AUSTIN IS OUR HOME.

THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE.

THIS IS WHERE WE WORK.

THIS IS WHERE WE DEVELOP HOUSING TO TRY TO HELP FURTHER THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S GOALS TO CREATE HIGH QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED NUMEROUS PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER THE TIMELINE OF THE ZONING CASE.

I WANT TO BRIEFLY TAKE YOU THROUGH THE HISTORY.

NEXT TWO SLIDES, PLEASE.

LAST YEAR WE HAD THE SITE UNDER CONTRACT FOR A DIFFERENT TDH APPLICATION.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THIS POINT WHILE WE WERE UNDER CONTRACT BRIEFLY AND SUBMITTED A PRE-APPLICATION AT ETA AND THE 2021 CYCLE.

WE QUICKLY TERMINATED THE CONTRACT AND DID NOT MOVE FORWARD IN EFFORT TO BETTER POSITION THE ROSEWOOD DEVELOPMENT IN THE TDA FUNDING COMPETITION, WHICH WE KNEW WAS A HIGH PRIORITY TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND TO HAKA IN DECEMBER 21, WE MANAGED TO GET THE SITE BACK UNDER CONTRACT AND BEGAN THE PROCESS FOR THE NEXT TDH APPLICATION.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WAS DESIGNED TO HELP MEET THE CITY'S PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING GOALS AND RESPOND TO THE HUGE NEED FOR SINGLE-ROOM OCCUPANCY UNITS THAT THE CITY HAS.

THE CHANGE WAS A DIRECT RESPONSE FOR FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL AND FROM THE STAFF.

WE NOTIFIED THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF OUR PROPOSED PROJECT JANUARY 7TH, TWO WEEKS AFTER GETTING IT UNDER CONTRACT AND QUICKLY SET UP OUR FIRST MEETING WITH THEM JANUARY 12TH, BUT ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE COMMISSION ON THE SECOND AND EVEN SYMPTOMS SITE PLANS ON FEBRUARY 24TH.

IN ADDITION TO OUR MEETINGS AND ONGOING COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE'VE HAD THREE FULL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS AND PRESENTED SITE PLANS TO SEEK NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK.

YOU WILL SEE IN YOUR PACKET, CLEAR COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE DATES AND THE DEADLINES, INCLUDING THE COMMUNICATION OF OUR FINANCING REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE ZONING FINALIZED BY THE END OF AUGUST, WE'VE SOUGHT TO BE OPEN AND FORTHCOMING AND PROACTIVE IN OUR ENGAGEMENT.

AND WE CONTINUE TO DO SO AND PROVIDE INFORMATION APPLICABLE TO THE ZONING CASE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE INFORMATION WE'VE PROVIDED INCLUDES A 500 PAGE THEL TDG APPLICATION, WHICH INCLUDES ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING SITE PLAN, ORGANIZATIONAL CHARTS, FINANCIAL INFORMATION, EVERYTHING IS ON THE TDA WEBSITE THAT YOU COULD EVER WANT.

ANY CHANGES WE HAVE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN RECENTLY ARE REALLY AN EFFORT JUST TO TRY TO TAKE IN NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK.

IT IS NOT NEEDED FOR THIS ZONING CASE WHILE WE'VE TRIED OUR BEST TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE INFORMATION THEY MIGHT NEED TO CONSIDER FOR THIS ZONING CHANGE.

WE ARE READY FOR THIS CASE TO BE HEARD TONIGHT.

UM, IF THE COUNTY, THE COMMISSION SO DESIRES, WE UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A REQUEST FOR JULY.

WE ARE AMENABLE TO A TWO WEEK DELAY, IF THAT IS EVERYONE'S DESIRE, BUT ANYTHING AFTER 5 24 MAY 24TH SIMPLY PUTS THE PROJECT AT RISK.

UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR ZONING IN PLACE BY THE TIME WE GET OUR COMMITMENT NOTICE AND HAVE TO TURN IT BACK INTO TD CA, WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY AT THE END OF AUGUST.

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SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

WELL, NO, HERE FROM THIS MORNING, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS KATE MOORE.

I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR ECHO, WHICH IS THE ENDING COMMUNITY HOMELESSNESS COALITION.

IT'S NICE TO SEE SOME FRIENDLY FACES HERE TONIGHT.

UM, I'M HERE TO, UM, TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED KATIE GLOSS DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S A HUNDRED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS.

I HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'LL STICK MY COMMENTS HERE AS ABOUT THE DELAY PROPOSED DELAY.

UM, WE HERE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT YOU NOT DELAY AND THAT ANY DELAY, UM, YOU DO WOULD ONLY NOT EXCEED THE 14 DAYS, JUST SO THAT THE DEVELOPMENT CAN MEET THE, ALL OF THE EXPECTED DEADLINES FOR TDH CA I WORKED FOR TD HTA FOR FIVE YEARS, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE NOT MESSING AROUND WHEN THEY SAY IT'S LATE, IT'S LATE.

AND THEN YOUR DEAL IS DEAD.

SO I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU, IF YOU DO DO A DELAY THAT YOU ONLY DO THE 14 DAY DELAY.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, EIGHT COMMISSIONERS, FIVE MINUTES TEACH.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU HAVE, MAYBE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER OR WE DO.

NOPE.

WELL, NO, WE ONLY HAVE TWO, TWO EACH.

YEAH.

FOR, UM, WELL, IF WE GO, IF WE HEAR THIS TONIGHT, YOU CAN SPEAK, THIS IS JUST ON THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

CAN I TAKE ONE MORE SECOND? UM, I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE DISCUSSION.

WELL, IF SOMEBODY TOOK YOUR PLACE, I'M SORRY.

WE ONLY HAVE TWO SPOTS.

IT'S IT'S, IT'S, I'M SORRY.

UH, BUT STAY AROUND BECAUSE IF WE HEAR IT, UM, IF YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UM, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR YOU.

I APOLOGIZE.

ANYWAY, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE Q AND A, UH, BUT I HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MATERIAL TO IT'S.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

YOU'VE HAD YOUR TIME AND STAFF TOLD US THAT WE WOULD NOT HEAR THIS DENY.

SO WE DID NOT COME PREPARED TO ACTUALLY HEAR THE CASE.

WE ACTUALLY TOLD US THAT WE CHECKED SEVERAL TIMES, SO IT NEEDS TO BE EITHER WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT WE DO, WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO HEAR IT THIS EVENING AND MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE A, I DON'T THINK WE NO PUBLIC HEARING, WE'RE JUST IN DISCUSSION POST ON, UH, I'M SORRY.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE GOOD USE OF PUBLIC SIGN HERE.

SO I'M MOVING THINGS ALONG.

UH, SO WE, WE WANT TO ASK QUESTION TO BE ALL, SO LET'S GET TO THE Q AND A, ON THE DELAY.

UH, WHO'S FIRST, UH, COMMISSIONER SHEA, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE SCREEN AFTER THAT.

I THINK IT'S NOT HIM.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK THE, UH, NEIGHBOR, UH, INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTED TO SPEAK WHAT YOUR, UH, WHAT THE LAST INFORMATION YOU SAID WAS JUST SPECIFICALLY FROM STAFF.

SO WE RECEIVED TWO THINGS FROM STAFF.

WE JUST RECEIVED, UM, A ASSURANCE THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE THAT IT WAS EITHER A TWO WEEK POSTPONEMENT OR IT WAS, UH, IT WAS GOING TO BE WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A GREAT TOOL.

AND WE EXPLICITLY ASKED, CAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

WE WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP WITH MORE PEOPLE AND I WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP WITH ANOTHER POWERPOINT, UH, IF WE HAD NO.

OKAY.

UH, THE SECOND THING TO, UH, IS IT PAULO? IS THAT WHAT NAME DO YOU GO BY? YEAH, PAULA.

UH, SO PAULA AND I BOTH GOT THE SAME EMAIL AND THAT EMAIL HAD A DIFFERENT SPEAKING ORDER AND TIME.

SO WE WERE EXPECTING SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SO NOW A QUESTION TO STAFF.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THIS IS THE FIRST REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IS THAT CORRECT? RE MEREDITH HOUSING AND PLANNING? YES.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S IT ON MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW? THANKS.

ALRIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER PLAYED HIM.

I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO FOR MS. MEREDITH.

UM, THANK YOU.

IT, I WAS A SENSE OF EMAILS BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOOD AND STAFF THAT INDICATED THAT THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY WAS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT PRIOR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST, UM, FOR, UH, MAY 24TH.

AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE IS READY FOR TONIGHT, BUT WAS THAT REQUEST MADE PRIOR TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS REQUEST? SO INITIALLY, UM, MEGAN LASH SAID THAT THEY WOULD, UM, UH, ASK FOR A POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 24TH BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD KANPAK NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING, CONTACT TEAM WAS GOING TO MEET ON MAY 16TH TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

SO THEN THAT'S HOW I WAS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THAT'S WHAT I COMMUNICATED

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TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT SOME POINT, UH, UM, THAT CHANGED, I MUST HAVE MISSED OR MISUNDERSTOOD A CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED WHERE IT, SHE WAS THEN SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE READY FOR ACTION.

UH, TODAY MAY 10TH, BUT WE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO A MAY 24TH POSTPONEMENT IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE TO ASK FOR IT.

SO THEN THAT EMAIL, I THINK AT SOME POINT IT WAS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT WAS NOW WHAT WAS THE PLAN THE APPLICANT WAS PROPOSING TO DO, AND ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO GO BEYOND MAY 24TH FOR A POSTPONE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUIZAR.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MR. KHAN LEAK AND YOU SPEAK TO THE ISSUE AROUND THE POSTPONEMENT UM, SURE.

AND I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.

UM, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN STATED.

I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT THIS CASE IS TO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WE HAVE OUR EYES ON THIS CASE.

WE'RE WATCHING IT VERY CLOSELY AND ANY POSTPONEMENT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY JEOPARDIZE THE FUNDING FOR THIS CASE IS SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND ON THAT NOTE, I ALSO WANTED TO COMMENT THAT WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THE OTHER CASE THAT WAS SHOWN AND TO PIT TWO LIGHT-TECH CASES AGAINST EACH OTHER.

UM, WE THINK IS VERY UNFORTUNATE.

UM, AND WE ALSO THINK THAT IN THIS CASE, IT IS PARTICULARLY UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE THE OTHER CASE IS IN DISTRICT FOUR, WHICH ALREADY HAS A NUMBER OF, UH, UM, PSH DEVELOPMENTS IN THE WORKS.

SO TO PRIORITIZE THAT OVER THIS OR TO RISK, PRIORITIZING THAT OVER, THIS IS ALSO TO FAIL TO AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY WE THINK IT'S CRUCIAL THAT THIS CASE NOT BE POSTPONED PAST FOR ANY LATER THAN 14 DAYS.

BUT IN ANY CASE, I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE ARE WATCHING THIS CASE VERY CLOSELY IN ALL OF AUSTIN HAS ITS EYES ON THIS CASE.

THANK YOU, JAY.

DO I STILL HAVE TIME? YES.

UM, MS. LASH, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO, UM, YOU'RE AGREEING TO POSTPONE THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WERE WORKING ON WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD ASKED.

CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO THAT? SURE.

UM, CONTRARY TO PUBLIC BELIEF, I'M TRYING TO JUST MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY, UM, WITH TRYING TO WORK ON THE DATES AND, AND I UNDERSTAND, UM, SOME OF THE TIMELINES AND WHO REQUESTS, WHAT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, BUT I MADE IT KNOWN AT THE LAST MEETING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO AN EXTENT I CANNOT WORK WITH A 60 DAY DELAY.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT REQUEST HAD TO COME FROM ME FROM ME OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S A BIT OF A MISCOMMUNICATION THERE, BUT ME SAYING I'M AMENABLE TO IT KIND OF GOT CONVOLUTED IF IT WAS ASKED.

AND SO JUST TO CONFIRM WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THIS IS ALWAYS WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT.

AND YOU WERE JUST SAYING THAT YOU'RE AMENABLE TO IT.

NOT THAT YOU'RE READY TO ESSENTIALLY GO TODAY.

I AM.

UM, LIKE I SAID, I'M AMENABLE TO THE POST HOME.

IT, I AM READY TO GO TODAY BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH, WE ONLY HAVE THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF AUGUST BECAUSE THEY DO NOT MEET IN AUGUST AT ALL AND WHAT'S IN JULY.

SO, UM, I WAS OFFERING THAT JUST TO KIND OF TRY TO DO HELP, YOU KNOW, MEET IN THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE.

THANK YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS, UH, COMMISSIONER SNYDER, UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO, UM, IF WE WERE TO POSTPONE THIS FOR, UM, 14 DAYS, UH, ARE YOU, ARE YOU, OR IS YOUR TEAM ABLE TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, OR THE NEIGHBORS, UH, DURING THAT TIME, ARE YOU PLANNING AND AVAILABLE TO BE FLEXIBLE? WHETHER IT BE SOMEBODY AVAILABLE, EVEN IF IT'S ON SHORT NOTICE FOR A MEETING, I AM HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AT THIS POINT.

UM, WE SUBMITTED OUR ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, UM, FEBRUARY 24TH.

I AM NOT SURE.

UM, AND THAT'S ALL IN THE COMMISSION BACKUP AND, YOU KNOW, THE EXCHANGE IN THE EMAILS.

I'M NOT SURE WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK OTHER THAN, UM, KIND OF GO AWAY.

LIKE WE'VE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT THINGS.

UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT EVEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECEIVED FEEDBACK TO GO ON DIFFERENT PROPERTY.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN NOT DO.

UM, BUT IF WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, CHANGES WITHIN AND THE SITE PLAN IS, IS REALLY NOT NEEDED FOR THE ZONING CASE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO SHOW AND HELP PEOPLE VISUALIZE WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM A BOTH ELEVATIONAL STANDPOINT.

AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE

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TO MEET WITH THEM EVEN AFTER THE ZONING PROCESS TO WORK THROUGH THE SITE PLAN.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL GET ANY FEEDBACK OTHER THAN THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THE FINANCIALS AND ALL THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE THAT HAS OCCURRED.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF THEY ASKED YOU TO COME TO A MEETING OR THEY WANT TO DISCUSS TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT YOU CAN ANSWER YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT.

HAPPY TO DO THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE ZONING CASE, YOU NEED MORE TIME.

COMMISSIONER SNYDER.

DO YOU HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES? THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

THANKS JERRY.

CAN I ASK MR. ELLENDER? YES.

QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

SO WE'RE HEARING PRETTY CLEARLY FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THEY WOULD NOT PREFER TO GO ANY LONGER THAN 14 DAYS.

WHAT VALUE, IF ANY, IS THERE FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE 14 DAY DELAY? YOU MEAN JUST A 14 DAY DELAY? UM, THE MAIN VALUE IS THAT WE WEREN'T PREPARED FOR TONIGHT AND WE DON'T HAVE, UH, ALL OF OUR PEOPLE.

WE DON'T HAVE OUR ARGUMENTATION.

WE DON'T HAVE OUR POWERPOINTS HERE.

SO 14, 14 DELAY DAY DELAY.

AT LEAST IT GIVES US TIME TO GET THAT TOGETHER.

UM, WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU WONDERING WHAT A 30 DAY DELAY WOULD GET US? I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THAT.

NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER PRACTICES.

UM, YES, EVERY QUESTION FOR THE SAME GENTLEMEN WHO JUST RESPONDED NOW.

OKAY.

YES.

MR. ALINGER IT'S, THERE'S SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR YOU ARE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER DURING THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

LIKE, ARE THERE SPECIFIC ASKS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW THAT YOU THINK YOU COULD HASH OUT IF, IF YOU WERE GIVEN TWO MORE WEEKS? WELL, CERTAINLY THE CLEAR ONE IS LIKE, PUT THIS OPTION THREE ON THE TABLE, WHICH, UM, THE ZONING CHANGE THEY'RE REQUESTING HAS A HYPE OVERLAY ON IT.

AND THEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO, TO EXECUTE ON THAT.

IF YOU GAVE THEM THE ZONING, THEY REQUESTED, THEY COULDN'T DO THE THIRD OPTION, WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL TOWER.

I PERSONALLY FAVOR A RESIDENTIAL TOWER.

I'M VERY HAPPY.

THEY, THEY PUT UP THE OPTIONS.

UM, BUT I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, NOT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I THINK THAT'S THE THING WE COULD WORK OUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

UM, REALISTICALLY A MONTH WOULD BE MUCH BETTER, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT LIKELY ANY OTHER, IS THAT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN FOR THE APPLICANT, HAVE THOSE PARTICULAR REQUESTS TO LOOK INTO THOSE OPTIONS BEEN MADE OF YOU ALREADY.

AND HOW DID, DID YOU HAVE, DID YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THE NEIGHBORS ON THAT ONE? IS THAT, IS ANY OF THAT FEASIBLE? SURE.

SO REALLY THE ONLY FEEDBACK AFTER WE PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE OPTIONS OF SITE PLANS FOR CONSIDERATION, UM, WAS PROVIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIALS, THE PHASE ONES.

WE'VE NOT REALLY GOTTEN FEEDBACK IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE OF THE SITE PLANS VERSUS THE OTHERS SINCE THE APRIL MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE COULD TODAY GO OUT AND BUILD, UM, WITH AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED ON THE ELO PARCELS, A SIX STORY BUILDING, WE WERE REALLY NOT WANTING TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THIS DOTING CASE.

WE WERE WANTING TO BUILD A THREE AND A FOUR STORY BUILDING IT'S IN THIS CLIMATE, IN THIS, YOU KNOW, SUPER EXPENSIVE CONSTRUCTION MARKET.

IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE MORE CITY FUNDING TO BUILD THAT HIGHER, HIGHER DENSITY PROJECT OR THE HIGHER, UM, HEIGHT BUILDING.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE BEST USE OF, OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

IT'S IT'S, TO US, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY TO GO THE SHORTER ROUTE.

UM, WE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED AN MF SIX ZONING AND OFFERED TO PUT A CEO ON THE SITE.

UM, WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THAT, UM, CEO OFFERING OTHER THAN THE CEO'S WEREN'T ENFORCED, THAT'S THE ONE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I I'M, FROM THE MF SIX PERSPECTIVE, WE REALLY LOOKED AT IT AND FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK WITH MFR.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY FINE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF MFR.

UM, SO W W WE'RE KIND OF, I FEEL LIKE A LITTLE BIT SHOOTING IN THE DARK FROM WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

I AM VERY HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO, IF I CAN GET SOME FEEDBACK.

UM, BUT HONESTLY THE I'VE NOT GOTTEN A CLEAR DIRECTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

OKAY.

AND IF WE DID NOT POSTPONE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, ACTIONS AND SITE PLANNING BETWEEN NOW AND THE COUNCIL HEARING AS WELL? YES, I'M.

IN FACT, ON THE MF FOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF PROVIDED, WE COULD STILL BUILD A SIX STORY TOWER IF THAT'S WHAT

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EVERYBODY DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED.

UM, SO REALLY ANY OF THE SITE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLAID COULD, UM, BE DONE WITH AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED AND THE, UM, MFR DESIGNATION.

AND WE ARE AGAIN FINE WITH THE MFR DESIGNATION.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE TWO MORE SPOTS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, IF NOT I'M COMMISSION FOR MR. TYLER, I HAVE A PROCESS QUESTION.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

IT WOULD BE, UH, DO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO, UM, DESIGNATE A COMMISSION POSTPONEMENT AS OPPOSED TO NEIGHBORHOOD OR APPLICANT OPTION TO THE COMMISSION, IF YOU SO CHOOSE, DID DESIRE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MICHELLE, HER, UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FROM STAFF, CAUSE I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.

UM, WERE THERE, WERE THERE ASSURANCES MADE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT A POSTPONEMENT? SO I WAS LOOKING AT MY EMAILS.

UM, I WAS EXPLAINING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOW THE POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION WOULD HAPPEN AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE EIGHT TONIGHT.

AND I SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE SPEAKERS FOR THE POSTPONEMENT SPEAKERS AGAINST THE POSTPONEMENT AND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WOULD ASK, PROBABLY ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN THEY WOULD VOTE ON THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.

I DON'T LOOK, I DON'T SEE IN MY EMAILS THAT I SPECIFICALLY OTHER EVER SAID THE CASE WOULD NOT BE HEARD, BUT I DIDN'T GIVE THE OPTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS COULD DECIDE TO HEAR THE CASE THAT NIGHT SO I COULD SEE HOW THERE COULD BE SOME CONFUSION.

OKAY, SURE.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

COMMISSIONER LADIES ON A, IF I COULD JUST FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, IT'S ALSO A NOTED IN THE MATERIALS THAT THE AGENDA.

OH, I'M SORRY.

WHAT IS NOTED THE PROCESS FOR POST BUMP DISCUSSION POST.

OH.

THAT THE COMMISSION COULD HEAR IT THIS EVENING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS ACTUALLY FROM SHERRY'S OR WAY THIS I'VE GOT IT RIGHT HERE.

COULD IT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU GOT A DIFFERENT EMAIL FROM SHERRY.

OKAY.

UH, LET'S ASK YOU, WE NEED TO ASK A QUESTION.

WE HAVE A SPOT FOR IF I'M OUT OF TIME.

I'M HAPPY.

SORRY.

IT'S IT'S FORMALITY AND PROCESS.

SORRY.

SO YES, PLEASE.

WOULD YOU SHARE YOUR EMAIL THAT YOU RECEIVED? SO WE MAY UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMUNICATION.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

SO THIS IS AN EMAIL FROM SHERRY.

I SAID, I'M ASKING ABOUT THE POLICE POSTPONEMENT, UM, AND PLEASE SEE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO A TWO WEEK POSTPONEMENT TO THE MAY 24TH PLANNING COMMISSION HERE BECAUSE OF THE APPLICANT IS OPPOSED TO ANY POSTPONEMENT BEYOND MAY 24TH AND THE MAY 10TH PC HEARING.

UM, WELL, LET'S SEE, THESE CASES WILL BE A POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING.

10TH HEARING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL PRESENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, THE REASON WHY THEY WANT THE POSTPONEMENT BEYOND MAY 24TH AND THE APPLICANT WILL STATE THE REASONS WHY THEY CANNOT SUPPORT A PP FOR MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AFTER THE DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, THEY WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THE POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS.

THE DISCUSSION WILL BE LIMITED TO THE POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS AND NOT THE MERITS OF THE CASE.

SO FROM READING THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE ABOUT THE POSTPONEMENT AND NOT THE DISCUSSION OR VOTE ON THE ITEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MITCH TODDLER.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPOT OR WE CAN, IF A COMMISSIONER WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THAT.

A FINISHER SHEA I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE FOR TWO WEEKS.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER COX? I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR POSTPONEMENT.

UM, A LOT'S BEEN SAID ALREADY, BUT, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE BOTH SIDES HAVE BEEN AMENABLE FOR THE TWO WEEKS TO WORK THINGS OUT.

AND THERE'S A, UH, PLAN OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT CONCEPTS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU KNOW, TO BE DISCUSSED.

AND, UH, WE ARE UP AGAINST A WALL BECAUSE COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE GETTING READY TO GO, UM, KIND OF HIATUS OVER THE SUMMER.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN DEVELOPMENT TAKES A LOT OF WORK ON ALL DIFFERENT SIDES FROM, UM, FROM THE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE TEAM.

THAT'S GOING TO BE LENDING TO THE ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, TO THE NEIGHBORS, TO COMMUNITY PEOPLE, TO SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE COME TOGETHER TO MAKE THINGS WORK.

AND, UH, WE KNOW THAT IF TIMING IS OFF AND YOU MISS A DEADLINE THAT COULD SET THINGS, UM, WAY OFF AND COSTS PEOPLE MUCH, YOU KNOW, TIME, MONEY EFFORT.

SO, UH, I THINK TWO WEEKS IS APPROPRIATE.

THANKS.

RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER BEING AGAINST THIS MOTION

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ANY MORE, WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? UH, COMMISSIONER COX, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK GENERALLY.

UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN KIND OF A UNWRITTEN CUSTOMARY THING, SO THAT'S COMMISSIONED TO GRANT AT LEAST ONE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST, UH, WHEN A NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTS IT.

AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE THAT TRADITION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A FORMAL THING.

AND THAT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT ENCOURAGES DIALOGUE AND COOPERATION BETWEEN DEVELOPERS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, EVERYONE KNOWS TIME IS EQUAL TO MONEY.

AND SO IF THE DEVELOPER KNOWS THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD QUICKER, IF THEY GET AGREEMENT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT POSTPONEMENTS, THEN THAT ENCOURAGES THAT COOPERATION.

THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE HERE, BUT IT DOES APPEAR TO BE THE FIRST POSTPONEMENT REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO JUST FROM THAT ALONE, I THINK THIS COMMISSION SHOULD HONOR IT AND GRANT, UH, AT A, AT A MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS, A TWO WEEK POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY COMMISSIONERS FOUND SNAKE FAR AGAINST BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? OH, COMMISSIONING ON IS PALITO.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT OR JUST A SPECIFICATION OF DESIGNATING THIS AS A COMMISSIONING POSTPONEMENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE, JUST THE CONCERN ABOUT ENSURING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T, UM, USE ONE POSTPONEMENT OR HAVE THEIR POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS NOTED.

IF, UM, IF INDEED THERE WERE PRIOR REQUESTS, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT ALSO REQUESTED.

SO I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE IT NEUTRAL AND NOT WITH THE INTENTION OF DELAYING A CASE, BUT JUST IN FAIRNESS TO THAT COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF, LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN GET A SECOND ON THAT COMMISSIONER MOOSE TODDLER, SECOND THAT, UH, DO YOU WANT THIS? YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION ANY FURTHER PERMISSION TO BE HONEST KALITA.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I, UM, EMPATHIZE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FRUSTRATION ABOUT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LETTER OF THE LAW ON SOME OF THESE NOTIFICATIONS.

IT IS CONFUSING AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTOOD MAUREEN MEREDITH'S, UH, EMAIL AS READ TO MEAN THAT THE DISCUSSION ON DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT IS LIMITED TO POSTPONEMENT AND NOT THE MERITS OF THE CASE, BUT THE WAY THAT THAT READS TO A LAY PERSON VERY MUCH LOOKS LIKE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION IS RELATED TO POSTPONEMENT.

SO EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A LITTLE BIT SEPARATE THAT'S ON TOP OF THAT FRUSTRATION OF HEARING THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT AND THEN BEING DESIGNATED AS THE ONES REQUESTING THE POSTPONEMENT FIRST.

SO JUST IN FAIRNESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO ENCOURAGE, UM, REALLY HUMAN, HUMAN CENTERED STAFF COMMUNICATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THIS BALL IN VOLUNTARY TIME.

UM, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO, TO DESIGNATE THAT AS THE COMMISSION RECOGNIZING THIS POSTPONE, WE NEED ANY COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING AGAINST COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

I THINK WE HEARD PRETTY CLEARLY FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THIS WASN'T THEIR INTENT.

THEY WEREN'T LOOKING TO POSTPONE.

THEY WERE SIMPLY AMENABLE TO IT.

AND IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE PUNISHING THE APPLICANT TO A DEGREE JUST BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HASN'T HIRED A LAND USE LOBBYIST TO REPRESENT THEM HERE, WHERE THEY'RE SPENDING ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS THE INS AND OUTS AND ALL THE SECRETS AND THE WAYS THAT THEY GET THINGS DONE, THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO BE AMENABLE AND AGREEING TO POSTPONEMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE WORDS THEY USE THAT WERE INTERPRETED BY A STAFF MEMBER THEN WERE CLARIFIED AND CLEARED UP.

I'M HEARING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAY THEY WANT THE POSTPONE WITH THE APPLICANT SAYING, THEY'RE READY TO GO.

NOW THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR POSTPONEMENT AND IT'S NOT TOO DIFFICULT TO SEE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S HERE ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT AND THAT JUST DELAYS THIS HOUSING HOUSING DELAYED AS HOUSING DENIED.

LET'S HEAR THIS IN TWO WEEKS AND NOT GIVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE JUST TO POSTPONE IT.

OKAY.

SPEAK IN FAVOR, UH, COMMISSIONER, MR. SELLER, IT'S DENIAL.

UM, I I'M IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT, IT BEING NEWER TO THE WHOLE PROCESS, IT'S HARD TO JUMP IN AND UNDERSTAND A PROCESS, EVEN WHEN EVERYBODY'S GOT GOOD INTENTION.

MY I'M I'M IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT ONLY BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT IF WE LIMIT THAT TO TWO WEEKS, WE HEAR THE CASE IN TWO WEEKS, AS WE SAID, WE WOULD, THAT'S NOT GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY HAVE, AND WE CAN GIVE THEM A FAIR HEARING AND THEY CAN STILL GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO ON TIME.

SO, UM, WE'VE DONE THIS FOR, FOR OTHER FOLKS IN SITUATIONS WHEN THERE'S BEEN MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND THIS IS NOT JEOPARDIZING THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.

I'M GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST IT.

I MEAN, IF, IF WE HEAR THE CASE IN TWO WEEKS, THE COMMISSION CAN STILL POSTPONE IT BASED UPON, UH, WHATEVER WE HEAR AND WE COULD EVEN TALK, YOU KNOW, SEND THEM BACK FOR MORE DISCUSSION.

BUT, UM, AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, WE, WE ARE, IF WE GET TO WE, IF WE GET TO THE SAME POINT IN TWO WEEKS, KNOWING THAT THEY HAD THAT TIME TO SPEAK, WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EVEN GUARANTEE THAT

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THEY'LL HAVE ANOTHER POSTPONEMENT AT THAT POINT.

YES, IT'S COURTESY.

BUT IF IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER TRANSPIRES FROM IT, WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GUARANTEE IT.

IT WAS IT'S COURTESY, BUT THE QUESTION IS, HAS A COURTESY BEEN USED NOW OR NOT? AND IF THAT'S UP IN QUESTION, THEN I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT'S WHAT TO GUARANTEE AT THE NEXT TIME.

SO I THINK CONTINUING FORWARD, UM, AND LIKE COMMISSION DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE, UH, ONCE A CASE IS HEARD, I THINK IS, IS A SMARTER WAY TO GO.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER JUST WANTED TO SPEAK FOR A COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER ZARA WANTS TO SPEAK AGAINST, I JUST WANT TO SAY, DO THINGS.

I THINK ONE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE ATTEMPT HERE, BUT I THINK WE'RE SETTING A REALLY BAD PRECEDENT.

WHAT WE'RE TELLING ANY APPLICANT IN THE FUTURE IS IT, YOU SHOULD COME IN AND ALWAYS SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT AMENABLE TO YOUR REQUEST BECAUSE IF YOU SAY, OR FALTER OR SAY FOR A SECOND THAT, OH, I'M ACTUALLY OPEN TO REQUESTS.

WE'LL COME BACK AND SAY, OH NO, THIS WAS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD REQUEST.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY SETTING A STANDARD HERE WHERE FRANKLY, IF I WAS AN APPLICANT LOOKING AT THIS, I WOULD KNOW, WE SHOULD ALWAYS SAY, NOPE, NOT OPEN TO ANY REQUEST, TAKE IT TO THE COMMISSION AND LET THE COMMISSION SAY THAT THIS WAS INDEED A BJORN NEIGHBORHOOD REQUEST BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME MODELING OF COMMUNICATION.

SO I TRULY THINK, I THINK TRULY THINK, I THINK WE'RE SETTING A VERY BAD PRECEDENT HERE THAT WILL HARM NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE FUTURE WHO MAKE A REQUEST BECAUSE WE'RE SETTING A STANDARD WHERE AN APPLICANT SHOULD ALWAYS GO AHEAD AND SAY, WE OPPOSE THIS RATHER THAN THIS APPLICANT SAYING WE'RE AMENABLE TO THIS AND TRYING TO WORK ON THAT REQUEST.

SO I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE, EVEN THOUGH I SUPPORT THE REQUEST.

OKAY.

WE DID HAVE ONE OPENING FOR THE IN FAVOR.

UM, ANYBODY WANT TO TAKE THAT? OR I DID HAVE A POINT OF ORDER BEFORE WE MOVED TO A VOTE.

UM, SO WAS THIS AND COMMISSIONER SHAY HELPED ME OUT HERE ON, WAS THIS A SUBSTITUTE? SOUNDS LIKE THIS WAS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

OKAY.

WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS ONE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, START WITH THOSE.

UM, SO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WAS TO, UH, MAKE THIS A COMMISSION POSTPONEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS.

IS THAT TWO WEEK DELAY? WE'LL HEAR THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING.

UH, BUT MAKE IT A COMMISSION, NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT.

OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD ON THE DICE.

UH, THOSE IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

THOSE, UH, VIRTUALLY IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE.

LEAVE IT UP JUST FOR A SECOND.

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT WITH THE HYBRID.

UH, AND OKAY.

AND UH, OKAY.

SWITCHING THE, THOSE ON THE DICE AGAINST THIS SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

OKAY.

AND, UM, THOSE ON THE SCREEN AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

UH, I'M MISSING ONE.

OKAY.

THERE WE GO.

UH, AND COMMISSION.

OKAY.

COMMITTEE SCHNEIDER AND COMMISSIONER MOOSE TALLER STANDING.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SORRY.

THAT TAKES A LONG, IT'S GOTTA MAKE THE NOTES HERE.

SO, UH, ON THAT MOTION FAILS WITH, UM, COMMISSIONERS FLORES.

HEMPEL HOWARD BOATING.

NO, UM, I'M SORRY.

UM, HOWARD COMMISSIONER GOT TO GET THIS RIGHT HERE, UH, TONIGHT.

OKAY.

UH, THOMPSON ANDERSON.

AZHAR VOTING.

NO.

AND IF STAINING WAS COMMISSIONER MOOSE TOLERANCE, SCHNEIDER, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT FAILS.

LET'S GO TO THE, UH, ANY OTHER SUBSTITUTES OR AMENDMENTS TO THE MAIN MOTION WE FINISHED SPEAKING SPOTS.

WE HAVE NOT.

OKAY.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS AS WELL? WE WERE NEXT TO ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S PULLMAN.

OH, GO AHEAD, MR. IS OUR I'LL SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I DO THINK GUESTS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A POSTPONEMENT JUST SO THEY CAN COME BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.

AND THE APPLICANT SEEMS AMENABLE TO IT.

AND I APPRECIATE THEM WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS.

HAVING SAID THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVING GONE, SEEN OTHER FOLKS GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE DAC ELECTRIC PROCESS IS REALLY COMPLEX AND IS VERY TIME SENSITIVE.

IF YOU'RE NOT MEETING YOUR DEADLINES.

THAT MEANS THE APPLICATIONS FALLS SHORT.

I ALSO WANT TO VERY CLEARLY SAY THAT THESE DOES NOT MEAN THAT IF ONE PROJECT DOESN'T GET THE, UH, THE AWARD FROM DTAC, THAT IT COMES TO AUSTIN, IT DOESN'T, IT GOES TO OUR REGION.

SO IF WE LOSE A PROJECT, IT MEANS THE MC AND GO ELSEWHERE.

AND WE'VE HAD YEARS,

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LIKE A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THREE PROJECTS, WE HAVE ONLY THREE IN OUR REGION, ALL THREE GO TO ROUND ROCK THAT HURTS OUR COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE SEE THOSE PROJECTS FALL APART.

SO GETTING THAT LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT FUNDING TO OUR COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT.

AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT SAY THAT.

I FEEL LIKE IF FOLKS TRULY BELIEVE IN THIS AND WANT TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEY SHOULD NOT PETITION TO CHANGE SCORING CRITERIA SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN LOSE FUNDING.

AND I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE HERE, INCLUDING COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN REALIZE THIS IS IMPORTANT.

GETTING THIS FUNDING HERE IS IMPORTANT.

THIS IS FEDERAL FUNDING THAT CAN EITHER COME TO US OR GO OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO WE REALLY SHOULD NOT BE JEOPARDIZING THESE PROJECTS, WHETHER IT'S GOING THROUGH DTAC THROUGH THE SCORING CRITERIA AND SEEING THAT THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED OR THROUGH OTHER MEANS.

BUT AGAIN, I SUPPORT ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU ALL.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER'S READY TO VOTE ON THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHAY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COX, UH, TO GIVE A TWO WEEK NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT.

UM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A VOTE, UH, START WITH THE DYES.

SORRY.

IS THERE ANOTHER SLOT TO SPEAK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION? YES, THERE IS.

HE'S SPEAKING FOR AND AGAINST FOR AGAINST I'M SPEAKING NEUTRALLY.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY VERY QUICKLY THAT I, MY INTENTION WAS NOT AT ALL TO, UH, DELAY THIS PROJECT.

UM, AND I WON'T SPEAK TO THE MERITS, BUT, UH, ON THE PROCESS POINT, I JUST ALSO WANT TO SAY, I THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT HEALTHY PRECEDENT TO, UM, FOR STAFF TO ASSIGN A REQUEST TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THEY ARE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY BEEN REQUESTED THE POSTPONEMENT.

SO I DO VERY MUCH UNDERSTOOD STAND THAT THE APPLICANT IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD, DOES NOT WANT TO POSTPONE AND, AND MAYBE FROM THE GET-GO WAS TRYING TO JUST OFFER TO BE OKAY WITH IT.

BUT WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THAT THERE WAS A REQUEST.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED.

I WANT STAFF TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE COMMUNICATIONS, SO THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN, BUT I'M VERY MUCH NEUTRAL CAUSE I WANT TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE, UH, FOR THE TWO WEEK NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT.

UH, LET'S START WITH THOSE ON THE DICE IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

UH, THERE'S ON THE DYESS AGAINST VOTING NEUTRAL ABSTAINING.

OKAY.

AND OKAY.

LET ME MOVE TO THE, UH, LET'S START WITH THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, ON THE VIRTUALLY.

OKAY.

AND DOES AGAINST THE MOTION AND THOSE VOTING TIP STAIN.

OKAY.

SO THAT PASSES, UH, 11 0 2.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ONE BACK HERE IN TWO WEEKS.

ALL

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RIGHT.

MOVING ON, UH, TO ITEM B ONE, UH, WE'LL HEAR FROM STEPH, IF THEY'RE READY.

GOOD EVENING.

HEATHER CHAFFIN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS CASE C 14 20 22 0 0 0 3 CLAYTON LANE RESIDENCES.

THIS HAS BEEN BEFORE THE PERMISSION BEFORE REQUESTING TO GO FROM G R N U C O M P T G R E Z N E.

IT'S JUST UNDER TWO ACRES AT 1120 AND 1124 CLINTON LANE.

EXCUSE ME.

AND THE APPLICANT IS OKAY WITH, UH, KEEPING THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS OF PROHIBITED AND CONDITIONAL ABUSES.

THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS APPROXIMATELY 15 OR 16, TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

AND THERE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A REZONING TO ELABORATE DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY WITH 52 BEDROOM APARTMENTS AND TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE, ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT DISPLACEMENT AND NOTIFICATION TO RESIDENTS SINCE A NOTIFICATION GOES TO PROPERTY AND OWNER AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE UTILITY, UH, ACCOUNTS.

AND, UM, THAT'S JUST THE SHORT BACKGROUND.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN FAVOR AND AN OPPOSITION AVAILABLE TO SPEAK AND ALSO THE APP WITH AN UPDATE ON ANY OUTREACH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JERRY WILL.

AND I'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AS HELL.

IT'S CLASSICAL IT'S CLASSICAL IS YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES, GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, ALICE

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GLASGOW REPRESENTING JCI RESIDENTIAL, THE PROSPECTIVE DEVELOPER OF THIS SITE ON APRIL 12TH.

YOU HEARD THE CASE PRESENTED BY STAFF AND US.

I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON BECAUSE OF THE PROJECTED BAD WEATHER, BUT I DID PRESENT, UM, VIRTUALLY.

SO YOU, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SHOWED UP TO SPEAK AND INDICATED THAT HE HAD NOT RECEIVED NOTICE.

AND OF COURSE, WE ALL ASSUME THAT OUT, EVERYBODY PAYS, YOU KNOW, GETS, PAYS UTILITY BILLS AND THEREFORE THE CITY HAS, UH, THEIR INFORMATION TO NOTIFY THEM.

SO THAT WAS INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT, UM, OBVIOUSLY, UH, THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE SYSTEM IN NOTIFICATION.

WE, AND WE WENT AHEAD AND REACHED OUT TO THE, UM, TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

MY CLIENT HAS A PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT ACR, RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE STILL HAVE TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO, UH, TO GET TO THE TENANTS.

SO AS MS. CHAFFIN INDICATED THAT THE, UH, THE PROPERTY JUST HAS 16 UNITS OUT OF THOSE 13 ARE OCCUPIED.

AND, UH, SO IT'S CALLED THE OLD HOMESTEAD, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S THE NAME WE HAVE UP THERE.

SO WE MET WITH, UH, ABOUT, UH, EIGHT TENANTS ON APRIL 26TH.

WE HAD A VIRTUAL MEETING AND THEN WE HAD A FOLLOW-UP MEETING ON APRIL 29TH.

UM, AND ABOUT NINE PEOPLE ATTENDED THAT MEETING.

SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WHAT WE DID AFTER THAT MEETING, WE WENT AHEAD AND, UH, WE, WE, WE SH I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION MATERIALS THAT WE SHARED WITH THE TENANTS DURING THOSE TWO MEETINGS.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU.

SO AFTER THAT, THOSE TWO MEETINGS.

UH, AFTER THE APRIL 26TH MEETING, WE SENT OUT MY CLIENT PREPARED A LETTER, BOTH IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

SO ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, YOU, YOU HAVE THE ENGLISH VERSION AND THE, UH, ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU HAVE THE SPANISH VERSION, A COVER LETTER.

UH, NOW JUST STATING THAT THE LETTER IS TO INFORM THE, THE, UH, TO INFORM THE RESIDENTS THAT GCR RESIDENTIAL HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH HELOC HOLDINGS, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO, UM, TO, TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS AND GAVE HIM THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE PERSON TO TALK TO A JCR RESIDENTIAL, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE VIA THE TIMELINE THAT WAS SHARED WITH THEM DURING OUR VIRTUAL MEETINGS, THAT YOU KNOW, THE F THE FIRST PROCESS TO GET THE ZONING, UM, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT IS GET IT ALL ACCOMPLISHED BY THE END OF THE JUNE, JULY.

AND THEN, UM, EARLY 20, 23, WE'LL BEGIN THE PLANNING PROCESS, THE SITE PLANNING THAT IS REQUIRED THROUGH THE CITY, AND THEN START CONSTRUCTION, UH, SOME OF 20, 23.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE THINGS THAT WE, UH, SHARED WITH THE TENANTS THAT WE TOLD THEM THAT WILL NOT THE COMMITMENTS WE MADE, UH, AS SUCH THE JCI RESIDENTIAL AND THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WILL NOT CUT ANY OF THE CURRENT LEASES.

SHORT.

ALL THE LEASES ARE EXPECTED TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 30, DECEMBER 31ST, 2022.

THERE WILL NOT BE AN INCREASE IN RENT FOR, FOR THE DURATION OF THE LEASE TERM.

THE MONTH TO MONTH LEASE RENTS WILL ALSO REMAIN THE SAME THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2022.

THE CURRENT OWNER WILL REMAIN AS MANAGEMENT.

YOU'LL CONTINUE TO MANAGE THE PROPERTY.

SO THERE ISN'T A CHANGE IN, IN, IN MANAGEMENT OF THE PROPERTY AT ALL, THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, ANY FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS WILL BE COMMUNICATED WELL IN ADVANCE AND ALL FORMAL NOTICES REQUIRED, BUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN WILL BE PROVIDED WHEN APPLICABLE ALL DEPOSITS WILL BE FULLY RETURNED.

IF THE TENANT IS CURRENT ON RENT, WE ARE OFFERING A WAIVER OF ADMINISTRATIVE AND APPLICATION FEES AND A MONTH FREE OF RENT AT ANY JCR PROPERTY WITH A SIGNING OF A 12 MONTH LEASE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, WE OFFERED OUR SHARED WITH THEM THREE SITES THAT ARE JCI HAS AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THOSE SITES ARE EITHER IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HAKA OR IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TRAVIS COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY OR HOUSING CORPORATION.

RATHER, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS CALLED HIGH POINT PRESERVE.

WE MENTIONED THAT IN OUR PRESENTATION LAST TIME.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 3.5 MILES FROM OUR SITE FROM THE CURRENT CLAYTON LANE SITE.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS JUST A MAP TO SHOW THE DISTANCE.

IT SHOWS 3.5 MILES NEXT SLIDE.

SO THESE ARE THE UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AT A HIGH POINT PRESERVE, AND THE RENTS THAT YOU CAN SEE ALSO RANGE FROM THE HIGH, THE LOWEST AT 1064 TO THE HIGHEST FOR TWO BEDROOM, 1100 SQUARE FEET, TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH AT 2,100 AND THE RENT, UH, THE MFIS ARE 65 MFI THROUGH, UM, 80% MFI.

AND THIS PROJECT IS THE ONE THAT IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TRAVIS COUNTY.

AND THAT'S THE AFFORDABILITY ARM THAT HELPS KEEP THE RENTS AFFORDABLE.

NEXT SLIDE.

THE NEXT

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ONE IS BRIDGE AT GRANADA.

THIS IS IN DISTRICT FOUR.

NEXT SLIDE.

SORRY.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY.

IT'S NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS LOCATED 2.5 MILES FROM THE CURRENT SITE.

YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM IS WHEREAS PLAYTONE LANE IS LOCATED AND YOU GO NORTH TO POWER LANE WHERE THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED NEXT.

THIS ONE HAS ALSO THESE UNITS NUMBER OF UNITS AVAILABLE, AND THE RANTS RANGE FROM NINE 19 TO 1421.

NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH VERY QUICKLY BRIDGE.

A TURTLE CREEK IS THE FURTHEST AWAY.

THIS IS IN DISTRICT TWO, AND IT'S AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HAKA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

NEXT, THIS IS ABOUT 12.2 MILES AWAY, SO IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY, BUT IT'S STILL AFFORDABLE JUST TO TRY TO WRAP IT UP NEXT NEXT.

SO THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF UNITS AVAILABLE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE RANGES OF NINE, 19 TO 1600 NEXT.

SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU A COMPARISON OF THE, OF THE, THE THREE PROJECTS, THE CURRENT SITE, OLD HOMESTEAD, THE RENT, THE RENT CURRENTLY IT'S A MARKET RATE MARKET RATE PROJECT.

THE RENTS CURRENTLY ARE NOT FOR $900 FOR YOUR ONE BEDROOM, ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATH, A YOUR THREE BEDROOM IS THE, UH, RENTED UNIT IS AT 1,750.

AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE RENTS COMPARE WITH THE BRIDGE AT TURTLE CREEK, WHICH IS AT, UM, 3.5, 2.5 MILES AWAY.

HIGH POINT PRESERVE, WHICH IS 3.5 MILES AWAY AND BRIDGE AT GRANADA.

UM, OH, I MAY HAVE HAVE THE, THE, SORRY, THE MILES LET'S GO IN THERE AND COMMISSIONERS HAVE CONNECTS QUESTIONS AND BRING THIS MATERIAL BACK UP.

SO KEEP IT AVAILABLE FOR US IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

AND JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THE INFORMATION THAT WE SHARED WITH THE TENANTS AND, UH, SO FAR WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM.

ONE-ON-ONE VERY THOROUGH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

NOW, WE'LL HEAR FROM MS. TUBS AND, UH, THE COMMISSION ALLOWS, UH, IF I COULD PROVIDE HER SIX MINUTES.

YES, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I'M LORETTA TUBS.

I'M A RESIDENT AT THE OLD HOMESTEAD, NEARLY 15 YEARS.

I'VE LIVED THERE THE LONGEST, AND I'VE BEEN IN THE WINDSOR PARK NEIGHBORHOOD NEARLY 50 YEARS.

SO I WENT TO SCHOOL THERE, HERE.

I MOVED INTO THESE APARTMENTS TO BE NEAR MY PARENTS.

SO I COULD BE THEIR CAREGIVER.

THIS REDEVELOPMENT IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME NOW BECAUSE THEY CURRENTLY LIVE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF MANY CLOSE FRIENDS WITHIN A MILE OF MY CONGREGATION, AND STILL CLOSE TO MY MOTHER.

MY ROOTS RUN DEEP.

THE SIGN OUT FRONT SAYS IT FEELS LIKE HOME.

AND IT DOES.

I MOVED HERE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A HUGE COMPLEX OR AN APARTMENT COMMUNITY.

IT HAS BEEN AN OASIS IN THE HEART OF THE CITY.

SO WE CAN SIT ON OUR PORCH SWINGS AND LISTEN TO THE BIRDS AND OTHER WILDLIFE THAT ENJOY THE DOZENS OF MATURE TREES ON THIS PROPERTY.

WHILE I'M NOT AGAINST FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY, THE SIZE PROPOSED BY THE PROSPECTIVE OWNERS WOULD BRING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AND HUNDREDS OF CARS TO AN ALREADY STRESSED BLOCK OF CLAY CLAYTON LANE.

THE NEW LUXURY HIGH GROVE APARTMENTS AT 5,900 CAMERON ROAD HAS ONE OF ITS INSURANCES RIGHT ACROSS FROM THIS PROPERTY.

AN EXTRA SECOND SIDEWALK IN CURBING WAS ADDED TO TAKE OUT A CAR LENGTH.

AS THOSE TENANTS MOVE IN, THERE WILL BE GREATLY INCREASED TRAFFIC TO CLAYTON LANE AND CAMERON ROAD.

PARENTS WALK THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL ON THE STREET AND SCHOOL BUSES, PICKUP AND DROP OFF CHILDREN.

CLAYTON LAID FEEDS DIRECTLY INTO BRIAR CLIFF.

THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND THE DIRECT PATH TO HARRIS ELEMENTARY.

THE DECISION ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AFFECTS HUNDREDS OF LIVES OF HARDWORKING PEOPLE ON CLAYTON LANE AND BRIARCLIFF JUST BECAUSE THERE IS THIS TYPE OF ZONING ALREADY IN THIS AREA DOES NOT MEAN THERE SHOULD STILL BE MORE.

THE REAL WORLD DEFINITION OF INCREASED DENSITY IS MORE PEOPLE, MORE MONEY AND HUNDREDS OF MORE CARS TO MOVE AROUND AND TO PARK, NOT NECESSARILY INCREASE QUALITY OF LIFE.

AS PROMISED AS YOU SAW, THE PROSPECTIVE OWNERS HAVE OPENED UP COMMUNICATION WITH ALL OF US, BEGINNING OF APRIL 26, CLARIFYING THE TIMELINE I'VE BEEN ACTIVELY APPLYING FOR APARTMENTS SINCE JANUARY, KNOWING HOW LONG THE WAITING CAN BE.

IT TOOK ME TWO MONTHS TO GET ON ONE PARTICULAR WAITING LIST.

THEY HAVE STRESSED TO ALL OF US REPEATEDLY.

THE DEADLINE OF BEING OUT BY DECEMBER 31ST, WE WERE NOT TOLD ABOUT THIS IN JANUARY.

I SPECIFICALLY ASKED WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DECEMBER 31ST.

IF I DID NOT YET HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE AFTER ALL MY EFFORTS, THEY CANNOT GUARANTEE ANY FLEXIBILITY BEYOND THAT DATE.

IT WOULD GIVE ME PEACE OF MIND TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIS AFTER DECEMBER 31ST IN WRITING, I'M DOING MY PART, BUT THESE WAITING LISTS IN LIMITED AVAILABILITY ARE OUT OF MY CONTROL.

THIS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME IN THIS MARKET.

THEY HAVE MET WITH ME PERSONALLY TO HELP ME FIND AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS THAT I QUALIFY FOR AT 30% MFI.

THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY OF THESE IN ANY GIVEN BUILDING THAT OFFERS THEM.

AND I'M GETTING ON MY

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SEVENTH WAITING LIST.

THIS WEEK, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A DISCOUNT AND MARKET VALUE WHERE THERE SEEMS TO BE NO UPPER LIMIT ON THE MARKET PRICE, THE VERY LARGE PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN IN OUR OFFERING OR EVERYTHING I ACTUALLY NEVER WANTED.

AND THEY'RE NOT AFFORDABLE TO ME PERSONALLY, I'M BEING PRICED OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD I GREW UP IN.

SO THAT IS VERY UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.

AND ALSO THE CITY'S ANSWER TO TRAFFIC CONCERNS IS TO CAUSE TRAFFIC TENSION, REMOVING LANES, ADDING CURBING, LARGE BUMPS AND POLES.

THE REAL WORLD DEFINITION OF TRAFFIC TENSION IS DRIVER FRUSTRATION AND IMPATIENCE, MORE DANGEROUS TO SCHOOLCHILDREN.

AND AT TIMES THE INABILITY TO ALLOW EMERGENCY VEHICLES THROUGH IN SUMMARY, THERE'S CERTAINLY ROOM ON THIS PROPERTY TO DEVELOP MORE APARTMENTS, BUT 250 OR MORE IS JUST TOO MANY PEOPLE IN CARS FOR THE BOTTLENECK SITUATION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN CREATED FOR QUITE THIS BLOCK OF CLAYTON LANE.

IT WAS MY DREAM THAT SOMEONE WOULD APPRECIATE THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING COMPLEX AND BUILD ON THAT.

THEN MANY MORE WOULD LIVE HERE AND CALL THIS HOME.

IF THIS REZONING MOVES FORWARD, AS IT IS, I WILL HAVE TO FIND A BIG BOX GENERIC BUILDING TO LIVE IN, BUT IT WILL NEVER FEEL LIKE HOME IS THE OLD HOMESTEAD HAS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL COMMISSIONERS, UH, REGARDING, UH, MRS. MS. TUBS COMMENTS.

WE HAVE, UM, UH, THE JCR RESIDENTIAL STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH HER AND SHE'D, AS, AS INDICATED, SHE'S REACHED OUT TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL TEAM AND THEY ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, GIVEN HER, HER, HER NEEDS TO CONNECT HER WITH THE RIGHT RESOURCES AND ALSO CALLING DIFFERENT ENTITIES WHERE WE CAN FIND, UM, HOUSING TO AT LEAST EITHER GET ON A WAITING LIST FOR THE AGE RESTRICTED, UH, TYPE OF HOUSING THAT SHE'S BEEN LOOKING FOR.

I NEEDING.

SO WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO, TO DO THAT, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT UNTIL WELL, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND OUR PLACE.

SO SHE'S, SHE'S ONE OF THE TENANTS, ONE OF TWO WHO'VE REACHED OUT TO US SINCE WE LAST MET WITH, UH, THE TENANTS TO, FOR THE TWO MEETINGS WE'VE HAD.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

UM, REGARDING THE, UM, TRAFFIC, UH, CLAYTON, LENNY'S A SHORT LANE, WE IT'S PART OF THE ASM P PLAN WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE TRANSPORTATION, UH, REVIEW THROUGH THE COMMENTS THAT OUR ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE REQUIRED.

SO THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE WIDENED AT SOME POINT BECAUSE OF THE, UH, UH, UH, THE CHANGES IN ZONING.

THERE WERE SUBJECT WAS SUBJECT TO SUBJECT TO EASE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SIDEWALKS AND SHADED TREES.

UM, THE CURRENT ZONING OF GRM U ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL.

WE CAN HAVE UP TO 106, UM, UNITS.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE MARKET RATE, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THEM AND MORE, MORE LIKELY EXPENSIVE CONDOS AT 106 UNITS.

SO THE VMU WOULD ALLOW US TO HOPEFULLY ADD ADDITIONAL UNITS, UM, HOPEFULLY UP TO 250 AND A 25%, 10% OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE AFFORDABLE, UH, UNDER WHATEVER MFI COUNCIL ENDS UP APPROVING UNDER THE V CHANGES THAT YOU FORWARDED TO COUNCIL RECENTLY.

SO I'LL JUST STOP THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER JADA'S PLUTO MISSION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UH, HOLD ON.

LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING REAL QUICK, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DESIRE.

LET'S GO AND VOTE ON THE DICE.

FAVORITE CLOSING THE HEARING, EVERYONE AND THOSE ON OKAY.

EVERYONE WITH, OKAY.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

UH, QUESTION QA.

LET'S GO AND START WITH COMMISSIONER YOUNG KALITA.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS TO THE EXISTING RENTERS.

UM, I APPRECIATED SEEING THE LETTER THAT CAME UP IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

UM, I THINK MS. GLASGOW, YOU MAYBE CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE, I SAW THE LANGUAGE THAT THE TENANT WOULD NOT HAVE TO MOVE OUT AT THE CURRENT MOMENT, BUT THERE WASN'T ANY LANGUAGE ACTUALLY SAYING WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DECEMBER 31ST OR AT THE END OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHEN TENANTS WOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE OUT OF THE COMPLEX? UM, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT DATE? ARE THEY EVICTED, UH, AND HAS THAT ACTUALLY BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE CURRENT ATTENDANTS? WELL, THE, UH, THE DECEMBER 31ST DATE IS WHEN THE LEASES EXPIRE, AT LEAST WHEN WE GOT INTO CONTRACT WITH THE CURRENT OWNER THAT THEY ALL, ALL OF THE LEASES HAVE BEEN SET BEFORE WE GOT INVOLVED WORK AND DECEMBER 31ST WHEN HE'S, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE, WHEN HE PUT THE PROPERTY

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FOR SALE, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT IS CONTEMPLATING, SO HE COULD RETIRE AND MOVE AWAY.

AND, UM, WHAT HE'D LIKE TO DO IS OBVIOUSLY, UH, SALVAGE SOME OF THE, UH, THE MATERIAL FROM THE SIDE TO TAKE IT TO ANOTHER SIDE.

SO THEY ARE, UH, MOMENTOS OF THE SIDE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE.

SO THAT'S WHAT, DECEMBER 31ST, WHEN HE WOULDN'T BEGIN, WE WOULD BEGIN, UM, THE, UH, THE PROCESS OF GETTING READY, THE PROPERTY READY FOR, JUST READY FOR, FOR EVERYONE TO MOVE OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO THAT'S THE PLAN.

AND, UH, WE COMMUNICATE WE AS THE PROSPECTIVE BUYERS, GCL, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNICATED THIS WHEN, WHEN WE MET WITH THEM, UH, WITH THE TENANTS ON, ON THE 24TH.

AND THE INFORMATION PACKAGE THAT I JUST SHARED WITH YOU WAS ALSO HAND-DELIVERED TO EACH PERSON SO THAT THEY RECEIVED ALSO A HARD COPY OF EVERYTHING THAT WE COMMUNICATED THAT YOU JUST SAW TONIGHT.

SO, UM, HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, AND THEN THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY WORKING.

THAT'S WHY WE SHARED WITH, UH, WITH A TENANTS, THE THREE SITES THAT ARE AFFORDABLE, UM, UNDER THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, GIVEN THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE THERE.

AND, UM, UH, LIKE I SAID, SO FAR ONLY THREE PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO US TO HELP YOU THE CONNECT THEM WITH OUR REACHED OUT, TO FIND A PLACE OR HAVE A RESERVE, A PLACE AT ONE OF THOSE THREE UNITS.

UH, AND MS. TUBS ARE OBVIOUSLY HAS REACHED OUT TO US AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH HER TO, TO CONNECT HER WITH THE RECENT, TO THE POSSIBILITY OF A MONTH TO MONTH LEASE FOR ANY TENANT WHO HAS NOT FOUND A NEW, UH, AFFORDABLE RENT OR RENT AT THE SAME LEVEL.

IS THAT A POSSIBILITY FOR WHEN AFTER DECEMBER 31ST, WE HEARD THAT IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A TENANT IS UNABLE TO FIND, UM, ACCOMMODATIONS OF AN ADDITIONAL UNIT AT THE SAME LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY, UM, OR IF THEY JUST DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO LEAVE, UM, IS A MONTH TO MONTH RENTAL A POS A POSSIBILITY FOR THOSE TENANTS UNTIL THEY ARE RELOCATED.

WELL, I I'LL, I'LL POSE THAT QUESTION TO MY, TO MY CLIENT.

UM, SO BETWEEN NOW AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WELL, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE ALSO BRIEFING THE CITY COUNCIL AND WORKING CLOSELY ALSO WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER AVAIL OUR DISTRICT FOUR.

AND SO WE WILL EXPLORE ALL THOSE OPTIONS AND CONTINUE TO WORK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO OFFICER TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UM, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER PRACTICES.

OH, THANK YOU.

YES.

TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

SORRY.

NO WORRIES.

SO, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, WHAT IS THE RENT CURRENTLY FOR THOSE TWO BEDROOMS AT THE PROPERTY? THE RENTS FOR THE TWO BEDROOMS, THE, FOR THE EXISTING UNITS, THE EXISTING UNITS, THE, UH, THE ONE BEDROOM UNITS, $900.

DO YOU LIKE FOR ME TO PULL UP THE PRESENTATION, YOU CAN SEE THE COMPARISON WITH THE OTHER AFFORDABLE UNITS AND THOSE ONE SLIDE THAT SHOWS, AND THEN THE HIGHEST IS IT GOES FROM 900 IS THE LOWEST.

AND THEN THE HIGHEST IS A 1750.

YEAH.

I'M NOT REFERRING TO THOSE ALTERNATIVE PROPERTIES I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR THE RENTERS, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO BE DISPLACED.

WHAT IS THEIR RENT? THAT'S IT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU THAT THOSE OTHER ENTS 900 IS THE, UH, THE LIST.

YOU, YOU HAVE 912 70 12, 75, 13 75, 14, 50, 1300, 10 50, ALL THE WAY TO 1750.

THOSE ARE THE CURRENT RENTS CURRENTLY ON THE SITE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M SORRY.

I MISUNDERSTOOD.

NO, THAT'S WHAT, NO, THOSE ARE THE CURRENT RENTS.

I'M SORRY.

THE CHART THAT I SHOWED, WE HAD ALL THE THREE EXISTING PROJECTS.

AND THEN THE FIRST SLIDE WAS THE CURRENT PROJECT, WHICH IS THE HOMESTEAD, THE 13 HOMES THAT ARE UNITS THAT ARE, I THINK, SLIDE NUMBER.

IT'S GOING TO BE SLIDE NUMBER 18.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, THAT SHOWS YOU THE, UH, WHAT THE CURRENT RENTS ARE.

AND I WAS LIKE, I WAS JUST READING.

YEAH.

THE ONE I WAS READING TO YOU WAS REALLY MORE THE RENT ROLL THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME THAT SHOWS.

SO I SEE, UM, I MEAN THE RENTS, I, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE REALLY CLEAR BREAKDOWN OF, UM, THE OTHER THREE PROPERTIES AND WHAT, WHAT IS AVAILABLE AT WHAT MFI LEVEL AND THE RENT.

I THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, A STANDARD THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO HOLD, UM, APPLICANTS TO.

AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SET, SET A GOOD BAR THERE IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY.

UM, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE OLD HOMESTEAD AND COMPARING THE RENTS.

THEY DO STILL APPEAR TO BE, YOU KNOW,

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A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS AT AT LEAST A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE THAN, UM, THAN THE RENT THAT THAT FOLKS CURRENTLY HAVE.

UM, YEAH.

AND, AND BY THE WAY, LET ME ALSO ADD, UH, COMMISSIONER PRACTICES THAT ARE, AS OF THIS, THIS PAST FRIDAY WAS THE FIFTH MAY 5TH, THE, UM, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS ISSUED THEIR MFI TABLE.

SO THEY CHANGE THE, UH, THE RENTS SHOWN FOR THE OTHER PROJECTS REFLECT THE, THE LATEST VERSION OF THE 2022, UH, MFI CHART UNDER THE T D IS IT CA TOO MANY ACRONYMS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SO THAT CHANGED AS OF MAY 5TH.

THAT'S WHY THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GONE UP SLIGHTLY BECAUSE OF THESE ARE THE NEW MAXIMUM RENTS SENT SET UNDER THE DIFFERENT MFI LEVELS UNDER THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

WHICH JUST POINTS TO THE ISSUE THAT, UM, WHAT IS QUOTE UNQUOTE AFFORDABLE IS NOT ACTUALLY AFFORDABLE TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE MOST AT RISK OF DISPLACEMENT.

OF COURSE, THE RENTERS THAT WE HEARD FROM THIS COMMISSION AND THE PREVIOUS.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING WITH AND BEING AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE, UM, WITH, WITH RENTERS.

BUT, UM, BUT OKAY.

I GUESS I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF, UM, OF I'M SO SORRY I MISSED HER NAME, BUT YES.

I'LL ASK YOU THE QUESTION.

UM, YES.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT.

AND, UM, I REALLY HEAR YOU ON HOW HARD IT IS TO LOSE YOUR HOME AND ALL, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COME WITH HOME, WHICH FOR YOU, IT SOUNDS LIKE BEING CLOSE TO YOUR MOM, YOUR CONGREGATION.

UM, I'M VERY SORRY THAT YOU'RE BEING PUT THROUGH THIS.

UM, SO DO YOU, UM, IT'S JUST TO CLARIFY AT THOSE OTHER THREE PROPERTIES, UM, THAT WE SAW BREAKDOWNS FOR AND THE RENT, UM, ARE YOU ACTUALLY ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR ANY OF THOSE OR AFFORD THE RENT AT ANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES? ARE YOU HAVING TO LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES? I'M LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE AND THERE'S ONE THING I DID NOT EXPLAIN.

I CURRENTLY HAVE A ROOMMATE THAT SHARES MY RENT DUE TO THE SITUATION AND THE STRESS OF THE SITUATION SHE'S MOVING IN JUNE.

THANKFULLY I HAVE A TEMPORARY ROOMMATE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

SO BEYOND THAT, ALL THESE WAITING LISTS, I'M GETTING ON, I'M QUALIFYING ON MY OWN.

THAT'S WHY I QUALIFY FOR 30% RFI BECAUSE THAT'S THE CATEGORY I'M IN.

SO IT'S ALSO DISRUPTED MY LIVING SITUATION.

I'M LOSING A FRIEND RIGHT NEXT MONTH.

AND, UM, I'M GLAD I HAVE SOMETHING, A TEMPORARY ARRANGEMENT THAT THE 30% OFFERINGS, UM, THERE ARE VERY FEW APARTMENTS AND THE LATE WAITING LIST ARE LONG.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THAT'S TWO, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MITCH TODDLER, UH, QUESTION FOR MS. KLASKO.

UM, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE PROJECT, UM, PREVIOUSLY, AND OBVIOUSLY WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THIS WAS JUST KIND OF THE REMAINING PIECE TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT ONGOING FOR YOU.

UM, SO, UH, A TOUGH INDIVIDUAL UNUSUAL SITUATION.

UM, DO WE HAVE A WAY TO HELP THIS INDIVIDUAL SECURE HOUSING WE ASSISTED WITH I'M SORRY.

SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S OKAY.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE WORKING IT.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE TIMELINE, UM, AND THE WAITING LIST AND THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE.

I THINK WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO SEE WAS THAT YOU HAD SOMETHING AFFORDABLE FOR ANY OF THE APPLICANTS THAT WOULD WANT TO STAY WITHIN YOUR PROPERTY.

SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR THIS APPLICANT, GIVEN THEIR PARTICULAR SITUATION OR NOT APPLICANT THIS RESIDENT TENANT, GIVEN THEIR PARTICULARS OF THEIR SITUATION.

I KNOW IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT, BUT IT SURE WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HAIR COMMISSION, ALL COMMISSION MEMBERS, WE'RE ADDRESSING ALL OF YOU, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY IS CHALLENGING.

OUR 30% MFI IT'S IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT.

YOU CAN SEE THE THREE PROJECTS.

WE JUST PULLED UP THAT THEY ARE, THE PARTNERSHIPS ARE WITH HAKA AND TRAVIS COUNTY TO BRING THE, THE PRICE POINTS TO WHERE THE MFIS RANGE FROM 50% TO 80%.

AND, UM, SO THE COSTS,

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UH, HERE YOU HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A WILL.

WE WILL COMMIT, WE COMMIT TO CONTINUE TO WALK WITH HER BECAUSE, UH, SITUATIONS IS, IS UNIQUE.

AND AS YOU INDICATED THAT, UH, SHE'S, UH, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HER AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE, UH, CONNECTIONS TO, TO THE OTHER, UM, PROVIDERS THAT WE CAN HELP WITH THOSE RESOURCES TO CONNECT AND MAKE SURE THAT SHE STAYS ON THOSE LISTS AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HER.

I THINK I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOUR DEVELOPER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PERSONALLY SECURE HER SITUATION.

THAT'S WHAT I'D LOVE TO HEAR.

IT'S ONE HUMAN BEING ROSS.

I MEAN, KURT, IT MAY NOT BE YOUR IDEAL SITUATION.

UH, MR. RIVERA JUST TOLD, SORRY, I THINK WE NEED TO, WE ARE CROSSING CERTAIN LINES HERE.

AND, UH, I ACTUALLY DO, WE HAVE OUR LEGAL STAFF AVAILABLE AND THIS IS, THESE ARE HARD ISSUES, AFFORDABILITY.

WE, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE BEG AND WE PLEAD FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK OUT A DEAL HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP A, UM, PERMANENT HOUSING FOR FOLKS THAT ARE BEING DISPLACED OR DISPLACEMENT POLICIES.

WE, THIS IS HEART-WRENCHING, BUT WE HAVE CERTAIN PURVIEW, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS WE HAVE TO OPERATE.

AND THIS IS, WE'VE HAD KIND OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT DO WE, THE QUESTION FOR ME IS CAN WE TAKE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, LIKE THE APPLICANT'S DISPLACEMENT POLICY OR, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE WHEN CONSIDERING A ZONING APPLICATION? AND THAT'S A QUESTION I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

I JUST WANT TO FRAME THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE BASIS FOR OUR DECISIONS HERE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE LEGAL STAFF THAT CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION HERE THIS EVENING? WELL, I WOULD SAY FIRST, UH, THE COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER ANYTHING WANTS TO IN A HAZE ZONING CASE.

HOWEVER, YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS RESTRICTED TO THE, UH, PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

CAN I, CAN I, CAN I ALSO ADD THAT OUT? THE CITY DID ADOPT, UM, HOUSING RELOCATION ORDINANCE AND WE WILL COMPLY AND ADHERE TO THAT.

AND IN FACT, THAT ORDINANCE, IT REALLY, THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT IS WENT FOUR MONTHS BEFORE YOU APPLY FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT, OR BEFORE YOU APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT FOUR MONTHS BEFORE WE, THE LANDLORD, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, JUST GIVE THEM NOTICE THE PROPERTIES IS GOING TO BE REZONED.

AND, AND OF COURSE WE JUST MET WITH THEM.

SO YOU KNOW, THAT THE NOTIFICATION REGARDING PROSPECTIVE, UM, UH, REPLACEMENT DISPLACEMENT, UH, BASED ON WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES IS THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NOT APPLIED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT OR A DEMOLITION PERMIT, WHICH IS THE TRIGGER OF THE FOUR MONTHS THAT IS, UH, PRESCRIBED IN THE CODE.

SO I THINK THAT THE OUT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, UM, OTHER THAN JUST FINDING FOLKS THAT THE RIGHT PLACE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

I THINK WE ARE ADHERING TO THE CITY CODE AND, UH, AND AGAIN, UH, THE LAND USE DECISIONS SEE THAT TO ADD A V OR NOT.

UH, AND THEN THE, THE MEU STILL ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MICHELLE, I DON'T MIND YOU ASKING QUESTIONS OF THE DEVELOPER.

I JUST THINK WE WERE KIND OF CROSSING A LINE THERE THAT I, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET THEM TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

I DON'T.

AND I, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS.

IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH.

SORRY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COX.

I WAS HOPING TO, UM, THAT WE COULD SEE THAT TABLE THAT MS. GLASGOW HAD REFERENCED AND THEN HAD THE COMPARISONS BETWEEN EXISTING, UM, OH, NO, IT WAS THAT ONE.

YEAH, THAT ONE.

NOPE.

OKAY.

YEAH, STAY THERE.

UM, THANK YOU.

SO QUESTION TO, TO MS. MS. GLASGOW, UM, COMMISSION LIGHTS ON HYDRA.

IF WE COULD JUST HOLD FOR A MINUTE, IF WE, IF WE COULD PULL UP THE COMMISSIONER ON THE SCREEN.

OKAY.

UM, MS. , THIS SEEMS

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TO BE KIND OF A CLASSIC AND UNDER THEM THAT WE OFTEN HAVE ON THIS COMMISSION.

UM, I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.

I DIDN'T HEAR YOU TH THIS, THIS APPEARS TO BE ONE OF THE CLASSIC CONUNDRUMS WE HAVE ON THIS COMMISSION, UH, ABOUT DISPLACEMENT OF CURRENTLY DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS TO REPLACE THEM WITH HOUSING UNITS THAT POTENTIALLY ARE CAPITAL A AFFORDABLE, BUT NOT AS DEEP AS THE EXISTING ONES HERE.

I'M CURIOUS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DEEPLY IMMERSED IN ALL OF THE HOUSING PROBLEMS AND DEVELOPMENT PROBLEMS IN AUSTIN.

I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY, WHY YOU THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD ENABLE THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD, KNOWING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISPLACE, UM, SOME, SOME, SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF DIFFICULTY FINDING, UH, HOUSING.

WELL, TWO REASONS ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, IT WILL ADD ADDITIONAL UNITS AND 10% OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE AFFORDABLE AT, I BELIEVE THE NEW MFI LEVEL THAT YOU FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCILS FOR V IS GOING TO BE A 60% MFI.

SO IF WE BUILD 25, 250 UNITS, 25% OF THOSE 25 OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE AFFORDABLE AT 60% MFI.

THE, UM, THE OTHER REASON IS THAT IF YOU DON'T ADD THE V THE M YOU ALLOW SOME DEVELOPMENT, SO REDEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR.

IT'S EITHER YOU GET A HUNDRED PERCENT MARKET RATE UNITS, WHICH THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS UP TO 106 UNITS.

SO IF YOU HAVE 106 UNITS, WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU JUST GOING TO HAVE EXPENSIVE CONDOS? MY CLIENT, UH, JCR RESIDENTIAL FOCUSES ON, ON BRANCHVILLE HOMES.

THEY DON'T DO CONDOS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT'S WHAT 106 UNITS WOULD DO THAT REDEVELOPMENT WILL STILL OCCUR.

SO THE QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER M U ALLOWS YOUR RESIDENTIAL USE IS JUST THE NUMBER THAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE UNDER THE M VERSUS THE NUMBER YOU CAN ACHIEVE BY ADDING THE V, WHICH THEN ALSO REQUIRES SOME AFFORDABILITY UNITS PROFILE BE PROVIDED ONSITE.

UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD GIVE YOU AS AN ANSWER FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT, AND WE ALL HAVE THE CONUNDRUM OF HOW DO WE ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.

IT'S NOT JUST THEM.

I THINK WE'RE ALL AFFECTED, UH, BY THE INCREASE IN COSTS AND EVERYTHING, UH, PROPERTY VALUES, UH, THAT AFFECT ALL OF US.

SO WE SHOULD ALL WORRY AND ARE WORRIED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO LIVE IN AUSTIN ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

SO, UM, THIS HITS TO ALL OF US EACH TIME WE PRESENT CASES LIKE THIS WHEN, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CASE WHERE WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH JUST A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE OFF OF TENANTS, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE PAYING NOW.

AND SO IT'S, UM, IT'S, LET'S TALK RE UH, REALLY QUICK ABOUT THE SMALL NUMBER OF TENANTS.

I KNOW MANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE, HAVE ASKED YOU ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND IN THIS CONVERSATION, AND YOU HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE A VERY DEFINITIVE ANSWERS, BUT WE'VE HAD CASES WHERE EXISTING TENANTS HAD BEEN DISPLACED, AND THE APPLICANT OFFERED A COUPLE OF MONTHS OF FREE RENT BEFORE THEY ARE OFFICIALLY EVICTED OR OTHER WAYS TO MITIGATE THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF HAVING TO MAKE THAT MOVE AND VERY LIKELY MAKING A MOVE TO A PLACE THAT'S MORE EXPENSIVE.

UM, HEY, I DON'T THINK NOTIFICATION HERE IS, IS SIMPLY ENOUGH.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT ADVERTISING FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR NON-GUARANTEED UNITS IS SIMPLY ENOUGH EITHER.

UM, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD? UM, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS AT PC IN TERMS OF, OF, OF ASSISTING THESE, THESE SMALL NUMBER OF EXISTING TENANTS.

SO HOLD ON, DO WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER THAT'S WILLING TO TAKE THAT INTO THEIR TIME, THE PLAN FOR THESE TENANTS, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE, UH, TO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON'S TIME.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION, PLEASE.

SO THE, THE, THE PLAN WE'VE OFFERED HERE IS WE FELT LIKE BY OFFERING THE, UM, THE PROPERTIES, THE AVAILABILITY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE SHOW HERE, UH, HI, THE BRIDGE AT TURTLE CREEK HIGH POINT PRESERVE BRIDGET GRANADA THAT, UH, THE RENTS THERE ARE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT THE RENTS THAT ARE BEING PAID CURRENTLY, TWO OF THOSE PROPERTIES, UM, IN GENERAL, PROXIMITY TO THIS AREA.

AND IF, IF ANYONE DECIDES TO MOVE TO ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES, THEY WILL GET FREE ONE MONTH OF FREE RENT.

THAT'S

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ONE THING WE'VE OFFERED AND OFFERING THAT EVERYONE WHO'S CURRENT ON THEIR RENTS, THEY WILL ALSO GET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR DEPOSIT, UH, WHEN THEY MOVE OUT, UH, THERE WON'T BE ANY RENT INCREASES, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF ANYONE MOVES TO ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES, THEY WOULD, UM, OBVIOUSLY GET A ONE MONTH FREE RENT.

AND SO FAR WE'VE ONLY REALLY HAD TWO PEOPLE REACH OUT TO US TO HELP THEM CONNECT THEM WITH THE PROJECT, THE MANAGERS AT ONE OF THESE LOCATIONS.

SO THEY ARE GIVEN, GIVEN THE RENT ROLE THAT THE RENTS THAT ARE OFFERED IN OTHER PLACES, SOME OF THESE TENANTS CAN'T AFFORD SOME OF THE RENTS, ASSUMING THEY APPLY IN A QUAL AND DO QUALIFY, BECAUSE I CAN TELL WHAT WE CAN TELL WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR INCOME IS AND WHAT THEY QUALIFY FOR.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY.

BUT, UM, LIKE AS I INDICATED, THE RENTS CURRENTLY, AS YOU COMPARE, LOOK AT THE CHART HERE, THE AVAILABILITY OF THOSE UNITS THAT THEY CAN BE, UM, THEY'RE NOT THE SAME RENTS AS MARKET RATE UNITS ELSEWHERE THAT ARE NEW.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE OFFERED FOR THE TENANTS THAT ARE, MIGHT CONSIDER MOVING TO ONE OF THESE THREE LOCATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, IT LOOKED AS THOUGH YOUR CLIENT MAYBE HAD SOMETHING HE WANTED TO SHARE, HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IN CASE YOU WANT TO, MAYBE HE'S BUSY ON HIS PHONE NOW.

NEVERMIND.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FACTS, RIGHT.

UM, THIS PROPERTY IS ROUGHLY, OH, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SURE.

UM, MY NAME IS KURT GALL.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF JCR RESIDENTIAL, AND ALICE IS SPEAKING FOR US.

UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE TENANTS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT.

UH, WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HAND, DELIVERING NOTICES, TRYING TO GIVE A VERY THOROUGH EXPLANATION OF THE PROCESS, THE TIMELINE, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE BUILDING'S GONNA SELL, WHETHER IT SELLS DUST OR IT'S GONNA SELL TO SOMEONE ELSE.

THE OWNER'S INTENTION IS TO SELL AND RETIRE AND TAKE A LOT OF THE BUILDING WITH THEM.

UM, I THINK HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 39 OR SOME, YOU KNOW, LONG AMOUNT OF TIME.

UH, AND SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW REASONS WHY, UM, THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO START, UM, 1231, UH, FOR HIM.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S HIS RIGHT TO SELLING IT'S HIS RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING.

SO, UM, THE POINT IS WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY PUSHING FOR THE ZONING TO INCLUDE SOME AFFORDABILITY.

UM, AND, UM, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THE LISA'S WILL END IT'S QUESTION OF WHEN.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THEM, AND WAY PRIOR TO THE 1231, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE THERE.

SO THEY HAVE THE MOST AMOUNT OF TIME TO, UM, TO REACT.

AND IS THIS BUILDING, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BUILDING ABOUT 80 YEARS OLD, IS THAT CORRECT? PARTS OF IT, PARTS OF IT.

AND YOU SAY THAT THE FAMILY MOVED HERE IN 1939, WAS THIS FAMILY THAT'S WHAT WE GOT FROM HIM.

YEAH.

WERE THEY A PART OF THE BUILDING OF THIS COMMUNITY? I BELIEVE SO.

I, I DON'T KNOW THE COMPLETE HISTORY, BUT, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF, OF MS. TUBS CASE, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO HER DIRECTLY.

WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH HER.

WE DON'T HAVE UNITS AT 30% MFI IN ANY PROPERTY.

WE HAVE THEM AS LOW AS 50.

YEAH.

SO, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MS. GLASGOW.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS ALLOW UPWARDS OF A HUNDRED HOMES, OR MAYBE THIS IS STAFF.

IF THIS IS INCORRECT, A HUNDRED SIX, ONE OH SIX CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS.

AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO BUILD OVER ONE 50 OR TWO 50, EXCUSE ME.

OKAY, GREAT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS.

INDEED.

WHAT ELSE? UH, FISHERS ARE MS. GLASGOW.

I'M SORRY.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO GET UP AGAIN, WALK UP, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UM, CAN YOU, YOU SHARED SOME COMMITMENTS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL ARE MAKING TO THE DANCE.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW THOSE ARE BEING MEMORIALIZED? WELL, WE'VE, UM, WE DELIVERED W WE PROVIDED IN WRITING TO EACH TENANT.

THEY HAVE THAT LIST OF ENOUGH, UH, COMMITMENTS IN WRITING THAT WE HANDLE.

LIVERED A COPY TO EACH TENANT IN ADDITION TO SHARING THEM IN A ZOOM MEETING.

UM, AND WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION IN THAT CONVERSATION AROUND MOVING FEES ASSOCIATED WITH MOVING FROM THE GRANT FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENTS? UM, SO REPEAT THAT AGAIN.

WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR, UH, MOVING FEES, ANY MOVING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH GOING TO A NEW PLACE? NO, WE DIDN'T DISCUSS, I THINK WHAT, YEAH, FOR NOW WHAT WE'VE OFFERED IS THEO ONE MONTH OF FREE RENT AND ALSO RETURN OFF ALL THE DEPOSITS, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DEPOSITS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WAS THERE ALSO ANY CONSIDERATION OF HER

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RIGHT? TO RETURN TO THE AFFORDABLE UNITS? SO, YES.

16.

OKAY.

SO THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION.

YES.

ONE OF THE TENANTS DID ASK IF HE, THAT HE, HE COULD, HE HAD THE OPTION OF RETURNING HERE OR ANOTHER PROJECT THAT MY CLIENT IS CURRENTLY BUILDING ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY, RIGHT.

AT THE CORNER OF AGE 35 AND CLAYTON LANE.

THAT'S CURRENTLY, IT'S CALLED THE WINDSOR.

THAT IS 300 UNITS.

AND YOU, YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED THE V ON THAT ONE ALSO.

SO THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND HE, HE, HE ASKED ME IF HE HAS THE OPTION OF COMING TO EITHER ONE OF THOSE, CAUSE THAT'LL BE FINISHED, I BELIEVE AT EITHER THE END OF THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR.

SO YES, THEY'LL HELP YOU OUT OPTION TO COME BACK TO, THEY WANT TO, TO EITHER ONE OF THESE LOCAL AND IS THAT BEING OFFERED, WHETHER DENNIS AS WELL, APART FROM, I GUESS THE DENTIST WHO ASKED FOR IT SPECIFICALLY, I'M SORRY, IS THAT BEING OFFERED TO THE OTHER DENTISTS AS WELL? APART FROM, I GUESS THE, YEAH, WE OFFER TO ALL OF THEM.

THEY WANT TO, YES.

HE'S JUST ONE PERSON WHO'S EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN, IN COMING BACK.

WE HAVE NOT HEARD REALLY MUCH FROM, FROM ALL THE OTHERS, EXCEPT FROM MR. ABS WHO'S REACHED OUT TO US TO, TO HELP CONNECT HER WITH THE RIGHT RESOURCES.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND I GUESS YOU ALREADY MENTIONED THERE WAS CONSIDERATION FOR FIRST MONTH OF RENT FREE IN ANOTHER JCI PROPERTY.

WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR MORE MONTHS THAN ONE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS HAVE VOLUNTARILY COMMITTED THREE MONTHS AND WE'VE SEEN DIFFERENT KINDS OF OFFERS.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY CONSIDERATION FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN ONE MONTH WHEN YOU ALL WERE THINKING ABOUT IT? UH, NO WE HAVEN'T, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN NOT CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS TO ASSIST AS WE GO FORWARD AS, AND AS WE CONNECT WITH INDIVIDUAL TENANTS THAT REACH OUT TO US AND FIND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE THAT WE'LL WORK WITH WITH EACH OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY, BECAUSE EACH, EACH TENANT HAS DIFFERENT NEEDS.

I APPRECIATE THAT MS. GLASGOW, UM, CAN YOU, SO I SAW IN OUR BACKUP THERE'S A LETTER OR COMMUNICATION FROM YOU THAT SAYS, SO THE CURRENT LEASES EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31ST WITH NO OPTION OF RENEWAL.

AND IT MENTIONED THAT YOU WOULD APPLY FOR THE DEMOLITION PERMIT ON MAY OF 2023.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN DECEMBER AND ME AS THE PROPER? WELL, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO, UH, TO, UM, SALVAGE SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS SO HE CAN TAKE THEM TO WHERE HE'S GOING.

SO HE'LL, WE'LL BE, UM, HE WILL, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE, THE BUILDINGS ARE ALL EMPTY, THAT THAT'S THE PLAN THAT, UH, HE, HE HE'S PLAN IS TO ALSO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE TIME TO, UH, TO SALVAGE THE INTERIOR MATERIALS THAT NEED TO, THAT HE LIKED TO MOVE OFF TO THE SIDE.

AND THEN THE EXTERIOR, ONCE WE KNOW WE WANT, WE JCI WANTS TO TAKE OF WHAT THE PROPERTY, THEY REALLY WON'T BE SEEKING FOR A BUILDING PERMIT DEMOLITION UNTIL PROBABLY MARCH, SO OF, OF 2023, JUST TO GIVE THE CURRENT OWNER TIME TO PREPARE AND DECIDE WHAT HE WANTS TO TAKE AND HOW TO PREPARE ALL OF THAT FOR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND CAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COMMITMENT TO THE DENTIST THAT YOU SAID YOUR VOLUNTARY VOLUNTARILY MADE SAYING THAT THEY CAN GO UP TO THAT DECEMBER POINT WHEN THE LEASES EXPIRE.

IS THERE A CONSIDERATION FOR SAYING IT CAN EITHER BE DECEMBER 31ST OR WHEN WORK STARTS ON SITE? SO LET'S SAY, UM, THE CURRENT OWNER DOES NOT START SALVAGING THOSE MATERIALS UNTIL MARCH GANNETT B THE DENS CAN STAY THERE TILL FEBRUARY OR WHICHEVER ONE IS, LET'S SAY AT THE EARLIER DATE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY I'M STOPPING THE PROJECT OR POSTPONING IT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING A CONSIDERATION THAT IF THERE ARE EXTRA MONTHS IN THERE, GOOD, THIS, COULD THERE BE AN EXTENSION OF THE BENEFIT THAT'S BEING OFFERED TO THE DENTISTS? WELL, I THINK THERE'S OTHER WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO JUST PREPARE FOR JUST GETTING THE PROPERTY PREPARED SO THAT YOU READ HAVING THE SITES, UM, OCCUPIED, UH, MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO DO OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO PREPARE THE SITE.

I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND AT THE END OF MY TIME, THANK YOU.

THIS CLASS.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE TWO MORE SPOTS.

ANYONE HAS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UM, COMMISSIONER PRACTICES.

OH, WELL, BOTH OF YOU HAVE ALREADY GONE.

LET'S JUST CHECK ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAVEN'T HAS NOT ASKED A QUESTION.

OH, OKAY.

LET'S COMMISSION OUR PRACTICES AND THEN WE'LL LET COMMISSIONER MOOSE TODDLER FINISH THIS OUT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, YES, AGAIN FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, IF, UH, ANY OF THE RENTERS FIND, UM, YOU KNOW, FIND A PROPERTY THAT WILL WORK FOR THEM AND THEY ARE WANTING TO APPLY AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, TERMINATING THEIR LEASE EARLY.

HAVE YOU HAD ANY WITH, WITH RECTORS ABOUT, UM, WHETHER THAT WOULD ENTAIL THEM HAVING TO PAY TERMINATION FEES OR WOULD, WOULD YOU ALLOW FOLKS TO TERMINATE WITHOUT PENALTY?

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I'LL LET MY CLIENT TO ANSWER THAT CAUSE HE'S, UM, THERE ABSOLUTELY WOULD NOT BE A TERMINATION FEE.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY FOR WHAT'S BEST WITH THEIR SITUATION.

UM, UH, ALSO HAVE TO KIND OF REMIND, UM, MYSELF IN THIS PROCESS THAT WHAT WE DO FOR ONE WE DO FOR ALL, UH, IT'S HOW FAIR, FAIR HOUSING WORKS IN OUR BUSINESS.

SO OFFERING INDIVIDUAL DISCOUNTS, OFFERING INDIVIDUAL RELOCATION MEANS WE PUT IT OUT TO THE COMPLEX, BUT, UM, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LEAVE, UH, EVEN IF THEIR LEASE IS NOT UP, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MONTH TO MONTH LEASES.

UM, I THINK A LOT OF THEM DO EXPIRE WELL PRIOR TO THE 1231 DATE.

WE'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO STAY AT THAT RATE WITHOUT ANY INCREASE, UM, UH, UNTIL 1231.

UM, AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT AFTER 1231, IF SOMETHING UNFORESEEN HAPPENS THAT THE PROJECT DOESN'T, ISN'T MOVING FORWARD FOR PERMITTING FOR, FOR WHATEVER OTHER REASON WE DO HAVE WORK, WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO DO SOIL BORINGS FOR NEW FOUNDATIONS TO KEEP THE DESIGN GOING.

THAT'S KIND OF DISRUPTIVE.

UM, BUT WE HAVE SAID THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 1231 DATE WE THINK I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE ACTUALLY SAID WE WERE APPLYING FOR A DEMO PERMIT IN MARCH.

THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, UM, BY OUR SCHEDULE, UM, WHICH KIND OF GETS US TO THAT 1231 DAY.

UM, BUT IF WE WERE TO EXTEND AND THERE'S NO REASON THAT THAT FOLKS HAD TO MOVE OR AMENABLE TO LETTING THEM STAY, UM, BUT WE THINK THE PROJECT TIMELINE, JUST LOOKING FORWARD, ONCE WE BUY THE SITE, WE HAVE INVESTORS ON BOARD.

WE KIND OF HAD THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MOVE IT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

UM, AND, UM, UH, SO, BUT IF THERE IS NO REASON WE'RE NOT GOING TO VACATE THE UNITS JUST BECAUSE WE CAN.

SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, THEN THAT COMMITMENT TO ALLOW FOLKS TO TERMINATE WITHOUT ANY PENALTIES THAT MIGHT BE LAID OUT IN THEIR CURRENT LEASES.

UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE TENANTS ALREADY HAVE IN WRITING? UH, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, SORRY.

WE'LL BE HAPPY TO COMMUNICATE THAT IN A LETTER TO EACH TENANT, UM, AFTER THIS MEETING, ABSOLUTELY.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE SO WITH THE RENTAL DEPOSIT, UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF THESE UNITS ARE TORN DOWN, THERE'S NO REASON TO HOLD ANYBODY'S DEPOSIT FOR DAMAGE.

UM, AND THEN, AND THEN THE, UM, NO RENT INCREASE, EVEN THOUGH I THINK THAT THE PROPERTY TAX HAS MADE THIS PROJECT PROBABLY MOSTLY UNBUYABLE FOR THE CURRENT OWNER, UH, WHICH IS IMPETUS TO SELL.

UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE PUT IT IN WRITING THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY RENT INCREASES EITHER FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR, EVEN WHEN THEY GO TO MONTH, MONTH TO MONTH.

IS THAT, AND I MIGHT'VE MISSED THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, BUT ARE YOU OFFERING ANY MONTHS OFF OF EVENT BEFORE FOLKS MOVE OUT, UM, AT A NEW PROPERTY? YES, NO MONTH MONTHS OFF FOR THE CURRENT FOLKS, BECAUSE THEY'LL NEED TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AND TIME MOVING.

AND IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT? WE HAVEN'T, NO.

OKAY.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU ASKING THAT YOU WANT US TO OR ANYBODY NICE IF I COULD.

UM, BUT LET'S SEE.

UM, W LET'S SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE RENTERS OR MULTIPLE RENTERS, AREN'T ABLE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION AND FACE, YOU KNOW, AN EVICTION PROCESS.

UM, WOULD YOU ALL CONTINUE TO BE WORKING WITH THEM IF THEY'RE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO HELP THEM FIND A UNIT? WELL, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT EVICTING ANYBODY.

UM, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A, A MONTH TO MONTH LEASE PROCESS, OR WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO RENEW THOSE LEASES BEYOND THAT, THAT START DATE.

SO, UH, FROM REALLY APRIL WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS TO DECEMBER, UM, THAT'S LIKELY TIME FOR ANYBODY WITHIN THIS PRICE RANGE TO FIND SOMETHING SIMILAR.

I THINK THE, THE RENTS HERE ARE NOT, UM, UH, UNUSUALLY INEXPENSIVE.

UH, AND, AND, BUT IN THE CASE OF, OF MS TUBS, WHERE WE'RE RECOGNIZE SHE'S IN A UNIQUE POSITION WITH A ROOMMATE, UM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK

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WITH HER, ESPECIALLY, UM, ON A ONE-ON-ONE BASIS TO TRY TO, TO HELP HER FIND SOMETHING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CURRENTLY AVAILABLE THAT MEETS HER NEEDS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR RESOURCES, UM, TO HELP HER FIND SOMETHING.

I THINK SHE WENT AWAY, COMMISSIONER PRAXIS.

I THINK WE CAN'T SEE YOU WE'RE HERE.

YEAH.

OR HERE YOU, UH, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND WE CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE TIME.

IF YOU HAVE A UP QUESTION, LET'S GO AND MOVE.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO OUR, UM, COMMISSIONER MOOSE TODDLER, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK IF NEEDED.

OKAY.

I'M THE IDIOT IN THE ROOM.

I DON'T KNOW ALL THE LEGALITIES.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING LEGALLY, THIS MIGHT BE A LEGAL DEPARTMENT QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING LEGALLY THAT PREVENTS THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER FROM MAKING A, AS IT IS THAT FAIR HOUSING LAW THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM MAKING A UNIQUE DEAL FOR A TENANT.

DO WE HAVE LEGAL AVAILABLE OR SOMEBODY WHO IS ALLOWED TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, HEATHER CHAFFIN, HOUSING AND PLANNING, AND DEFINITELY NOT LEGAL, BUT FIRST ZONING CASES, WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO HAVE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE ACTUAL ZONING CASE.

WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC.

I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST, MY QUESTION IS IN GENERAL, IS THERE, IT'S A GENERAL QUESTION? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT PREVENTS SOMEBODY FROM DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT? ARE THERE LAWS THAT PREVENT PEOPLE FROM NEGOTIATING CERTAIN LEASES AT CERTAIN RATES IN TERMS OF CITY ENFORCED, UH, REGULATIONS? YES.

UH, IF THERE'S A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, BUT FOR A REZONING THAT IS NOT REQUIRING THAT.

YEAH.

I'M TALKING OUTSIDE OF ZONE.

I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT HOUSING LEASES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU'RE YOU'RE OUT SHOPPING.

SO MY, MY POINT IS THAT THERE WOULD BE NOTHING PREVENTING THE OWNER OF MULTIPLE PROPERTIES FROM OFFERING A TENANT AND AFFORD A LEASE THAT THEY COULD AFFORD.

AND AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.

CORRECT.

BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A BINDING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER FOLKS.

I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN.

WE, WE HAVE SO MANY ISSUES THAT THE CITY HAS TACKLED.

THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

AND I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S HARD.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME HERE THIS EVENING.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CASES MOVE ON, BUT IF WE DIDN'T, WE, WE REALLY CAN'T SOLVE ALL OF THE CITY'S PROBLEMS. WE NEED TO REALLY STAY.

I'M SORRY, STAY IN OUR LANE, FOCUS ON THE ZONING CASE.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

UM, THESE ARE GREAT DISCUSSIONS.

WE JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FORTUNATE TONIGHT.

WE CAN HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS, BUT THEY REALLY AREN'T, UM, REALLY APPLICABLE TO THE CASE FOR HEARING.

AND WE'RE MAKING A DECISION ON DIRECTLY WITH THE ZONING, BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT WE, WE CARE AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO.

AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR POWER.

AND I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO DO THAT.

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU IS DEAR TO YOUR HEART AND IS IN OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AREA TO PASS ONTO CODES, CODES, AND ORDINANCES, LET'S DO IT.

LET'S GIVE THEM A SHOT AT IT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE CAN DO THINGS WE CAN MAKE CHANGE HERE.

WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.

UH, SO BRING ON THE, UH, SUGGESTIONS AND LET'S, LET'S TRY TO, LET'S TRY TO DO SOME GOOD, BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE JUST A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF OUR, OUR AREA.

UM, OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER PRAXIS.

DID YOU HAVE ANY CLUE? WE, WE LOST YOU THERE.

DID YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS? I CAN GIVE YOU ONE MORE MINUTE IF YOU NEED IT, JUST TO WRAP UP.

SURE.

UM, YEAH, I LOST MY SOUND.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I HAVE TO COME BACK IN.

UM, SO I DIDN'T HEAR AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ANY RENTERS WHO AREN'T ABLE TO FIND, UM, HOUSING AND ARE EITHER MOVE OUT OR ARE EVICTED.

WILL THEY CONTINUE TO RECEIVE ANY SUPPORT TO FIND HOUSING? UM, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO ANSWER, DO WE NEED TO BRING, UH, I'M SORRY, MR. DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO ANSWER THAT ONE MORE TIME BRIEFLY? UM, I DIDN'T HEAR THERE WAS REALLY A COMMITMENT, UH, POST, YOU KNOW, ONCE, UM, ONCE THE LEASE IS UP AND SURE.

SO, UM, UH,

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WE'RE, WE'RE, WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT THAT, THAT, UM, UH, ARE, ARE INTERESTED IN, IN OTHER OPTIONS.

UM, I, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE IN NEGOTIATING.

UM, MS. TUBS, PERSONAL TERMS HERE AT THE PODIUM, UH, WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH HER AND ANYONE ELSE THAT THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I, FROM A, FROM A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, I THINK WE NEED TO DO, UM, WE NEED TO FOLLOW FAIR HOUSING LAWS.

AND WE STANDING IN A, IN A PUBLIC PLACE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING FOR ONE PERSON, EVERY OTHER TENANT IN THAT, THAT, THAT SPACE HAS THE RIGHT TO COME ASK FOR THAT, UM, IN AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS, WHEN, UH, WHEN YOU GO TO, TO RENT AN APARTMENT, YOU CAN ASK FOR WHAT YOU WANT.

WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, BUT I THINK IN A PUBLIC PLACE, WE CAN'T, UM, OFFER IT FOR, FOR ONE PERSON.

SO, UM, WE ARE GONNA TO WORK WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT.

UM, AND I THINK MAY TO DECEMBER, HOPEFULLY IS ENOUGH TIME TO WORK THAT OUT.

OKAY.

I THINK WE NEED TO WRAP THAT UP.

I WILL JUST SAY THAT.

I THINK IN MY OPINION THAT THE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THIS OFF FOR ADDITIONAL NOTIFICATION.

I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND THAT WE SHOULD CELEBRATE.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE IN FRONT OF US, WE GET TO SEE THE REALITY THAT FACES A LOT OF FOLKS IN OUR CITY.

UNFORTUNATELY.

UM, YOU DON'T SEE IT EVERY DAY, BUT HERE GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.

UM, OKAY.

DO I HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ONE ENTERTAIN, A MOTION COMMISSIONER COX.

WE'RE AT A QUESTIONS.

UH, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PROCESS? NO, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUMPING THE GUN.

THANK YOU.

WELL, UM, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE THE CLOTHES? THE HEARING? I CAN'T REMEMBER.

WE DID.

WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, OKAY.

UM, AND THEN I MAKE A, UH, A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

WE HAVE, UH, WHOSE, UH, COMMISSIONER COX.

SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, MR. COX? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY THIS TIME BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS SWATTED DOWN, BUT, UH, IF WE COULD, I WOULD HAVE PUT IT IN SOME CEO'S OR SOME SORT OF RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE APPLICANT WORK HARDER ON THE ENTIRE RELOCATION PACKAGE FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THESE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS.

UH, I KNOW THAT ANDREW WOULD DO HIS DUTY AND HE WOULD INTERRUPT US AND SAY, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

UH, AND IT WOULD JUST TAKE UP MORE TIME, BUT I THINK WE'VE MADE OUR POSITION ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.

WE'VE HAD SOME EXTREMELY GOOD CONVERSATION, EXTENDED CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT.

UH, I SINCERELY HOPE THAT, UH, THEY TAKE THAT TO HEART BEFORE THEY GET THAT TO COUNCIL AND GET SOME OF THIS STUFF FIGURED OUT.

AND, AND JUST SO THAT THE APPLICANT KNOWS IF MY COUNCIL OFFICE ASKED ME FOR MY OPINION ON THIS CASE, I WILL BE SURE TO EXPRESS MY SAME OPINIONS THAT I EXPRESSED HERE ABOUT RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.

SO, UM, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS MEETING SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THEM? JUST TO CLARIFY THAT INCLUDES ALL THE CO WHEN YOU SAY STAFF.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, DID Y'ALL EVERYBODY ON GOOD WITH THAT? CEO'S AND, UH, PROHIBITED USES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ANY ONE WANT TO SPEAK FOR COMMISSIONER MITCH TELLER? I JUST WANT TO THANK AGAIN, MS. GLASGOW AND THE APPLICANT, UM, FOR TAKING THE TIME AND FIELDING THE QUESTIONS.

AND I, I, I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS UNDERSTOOD AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROJECT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY WORSE, UH, COMMISSIONER JUST WANT TO SPEAK FORWARD AGAINST, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE, UM, I'LL, I'LL, I'M GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS MOTION PARTIALLY, BECAUSE I THINK I APPRECIATE THE WORK MS. CLASP AND THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE DONE ON THIS.

I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE MORE WORK LEFT TO BE DONE THAN I'VE HOPED AS SIGNIFIES THAT AS THIS GOES TO COUNCIL, IT SEEMS LIKE IT PROBABLY WILL THAT WE GO AHEAD AND WORK ON THOSE ITEMS. AND THESE ARE, OF COURSE, ALL VOLUNTARY ITEMS THAT YOU'LL BE OFFERING VOLUNTARILY, WHICH AGAIN, INCLUDE, I THINK LOOKING AT SOME LEGALLY BINDING DOCUMENT OF MEMORIALIZING, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ALL MADE A COMMITMENT REGARDING.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, UM, UH, POTENTIALLY LOOKING INTO WHETHER YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER, UM, VOLUNTARILY AGAIN, MOVING COSTS OF $500 OR MORE, UM, SIMILARLY REALLY MORE UTILIZING THE RIGHT TO RETURN TO THE AFFORDABLE UNITS IF ELIGIBLE AND OR THE MARKET READINESS, WHICHEVER TENANT MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR.

AND THEN ALSO

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CONSIDERING NEEDING MORE THAN ONE MONTH OF FREE RENT AT THE FUTURE PROPERTY OR ALTERNATIVE PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS, UM, AS COMMISSIONER PRAXIS MENTIONED, HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY SOME OF THOSE COSTS THAT GO TOWARDS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GOES SUCH AS GETTING UTILITY CONNECTIONS, ET CETERA.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

ALL RIGHT.

I FINISHED HER ANDERSON SPEAKING FOR HER AGAINST SPEAKING FOR.

OKAY.

UM, SO, UH, WE'VE LEARNED, WE ALL LEARNED WITH ALL THESE CASES, RIGHT? SO WE, HERE WE HAVE A PROPERTY, IT CAN BE 100 HOMES.

IF IT'S REDEVELOPED UNDER CURRENT CODE 106, OR IT CAN BE 250 HOMES, ZERO OF THOSE CAN BE INCOME RESTRICTED OR 25, 26 OF THOSE COULD BE INCOME RESTRICTED.

AND IT GOES A LOT TO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALK ABOUT OUR HANDS BEING TIED IN CERTAIN THINGS BY THE STATE OF TEXAS, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE INCLUSIONARY ZONING, BUT WE HAVE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS. AND OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM HAS PRODUCED A MEASLY FIVE, 600 HOMES IN THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS OUTSIDE OF WEST CAMPUS.

AND THAT'S ON US.

THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T APPLIED IT ANYWHERE NEAR AS BROADLY AS WE SHOULD HAVE.

WE HAVE A HARD TIME, OFTENTIMES REZONING VACANT, LOTS AND PARKING LOTS.

AND SO HERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S 13 HOMES ARE 80 YEARS OLD, IT'S GETTING REDEVELOPED.

THE OWNER WANTS OUT OF THE OWNERS, LEAVING THE OWNERS IS GOING TO DISMANTLE THIS PROPERTY AND SELL IT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET OUT OF IT? IT'S JUST A BIGGER CONVERSATION.

THAT'S JUST GOING TO GET TOUGHER AND TOUGHER AS WE CONTINUE TO LIVE UNDER AN OPPRESSIVE 1984 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO PUT THAT THING BEHIND THIS ONE DAY? ALL RIGHT.

UH, ONE MORE SPEAKER, ANYONE WANT SPEAK AGAINST, OR FOR COMMISSIONER YANNIS PLATO? UM, I WILL ALSO SPEAK AGAINST, UM, MOSTLY BECAUSE I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE APPROVE A PROJECT.

THAT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE, UM, NATURALLY OCCURRING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE HAVE IN A COMMUNITY CAUSE SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES A WHOLE LOT OF BENEFITS, UM, TO PEOPLE THAT WE CAN'T REALLY SEE JUST IN UNIT NUMBERS.

THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE THING.

I THINK WHEN WE COMPARE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED UNITS TO 13 UNITS, UM, IT'S ALL INCREDIBLY QUANTITATIVE.

IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY OF THE QUALITATIVE AND EXTERNALIZED COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DISPLACING PEOPLE.

UM, AND I DO DEFINITELY THINK WE, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADD HOUSING AND USE THE DENSITY BONUS EVEN IN THIS AREA, BUT BEING FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, KNOWING, UM, THAT THE WESTERN SIDE OF CAMERON ROAD, WHICH BACKS INTO ALL THOSE HIGHWAYS IS A COMPLETE HEAT ISLAND.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCRETE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW PLACES WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SOME SHADE.

THERE'S AN EARLY CHILDCARE CENTER.

UM, THIS IS AN ACTUAL EXISTING COMMUNITY.

AND I HAVE TO SAY IT'S INCREDIBLY PAINFUL TO HEAR, UM, TO HEAR PEOPLE IN SUPPORT OF A PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE, SOME OF US ARE ON THE CLOCK HERE AND SOME OF US WILL WALK AWAY CAUSE THIS IS OUR JOB AND OTHERS ARE VOLUNTEERING.

BUT TO HEAR THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, NEW APARTMENTS THAT THEY'RE NOT EXPENSIVE, THAT'S RELATIVE TO SAY WE'RE ALL FEELING.

THE HOUSING CRISIS IS VERY INSENSITIVE WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY BEING EVICTED.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO USE THAT WORD EVICTED, BUT IF THEY'RE LIVING THERE AND THEY DON'T HAVE A RENEWED LEASE, UM, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

THEY ARE KICKED OUT.

AND WE'RE SAYING THAT WE WANT PEOPLE WITH MORE VALUE WHO CAN PAY MORE MONEY TO LIVE HERE INSTEAD OF THEM.

UM, AND SO IT IS VERY REAL AND IT MAY FEEL LIKE A DISTRACTION TO OUR JOB, BUT LOSING THE HUMANITY IN THIS SPACE IS WHY AUSTIN IS FEELING THE CRISIS.

IT'S FEELING ALSO, IT'S NOT JUST THE S THE, THE DEMAND FOR HOUSING.

IT'S THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LOST TOUCH WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HUMANS WHO NEED HOUSING.

AND WE HAVE INVESTORS WHO WANT TO JACK UP LAND VALUE, SO THEY CAN SELL THIS OWNER ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO DEMOLISH THESE APARTMENTS TOMORROW.

THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE CHANGES, LAND VALUE, AND CHANGES, SALE PRICES, AND THERE ARE LIVES THAT PAY FOR THAT.

SO I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS PROJECT, CAUSE I THINK WE NEED MUCH MORE.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ASAR.

I THINK WE NEED MUCH MORE IN WRITING ACTUALLY CODIFIES HOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING ACTIVELY DISPLACED IN THE NAME OF MORE PROFIT IN THIS AREA.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE, WE ARE DONE NEUTRAL COMMENT.

WE ARE OUT OF SPOTS.

YEAH.

LET'S LET'S GO AHEAD.

AND SO THE, THIS WAS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COX, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

WE'LL START WITH THE, THOSE ON THE DAYAS IN FAVOR AND BE PATIENT WITH ME.

OKAY.

AND, UM, LET ME GO TO THE, UH, FOLKS ON THE SCREEN.

DOESN'T FAVOR, PLEASE.

SHOW ME YOUR GREEN.

UM, LET'S SEE.

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ALRIGHT.

1, 2, 3.

OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

THOSE AGAINST THIS MOTION, PLEASE SHOW ME A RED.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T.

AND ON THE DIVE.

SO COMMISSIONERS ARE AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S THREE AGAINST, AND THEN THOSE, UH, THAT ARE ABSTAINING.

SO NOW, SO IF A CORRECT, THAT WOULD BE TEN THREE IF I HAD MY NUMBERS.

RIGHT.

SO, AND WITH YONIS, UH, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER PRACTICES VOTING NATE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, THAT MOTION PASSES.

ALL RIGHT.

UH LET'S UM, I'M GOING TO OFFER A QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO B 22, AND THEN WE'LL TALK SOME PROCEDURES BEFORE THEN.

SO, UM, FIVE MINUTES.

UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND COME BACK HERE AT, UH, 8 21, 8 22.

OKAY.

UM, ADVISE WE DO HAVE QUORUMS. SO, UH, GONNA GO AHEAD AND BRING THIS BACK TO ORDER IT HERE AT 8 25.

AND, UH, WE ARE

[B22. Element of Imagine Austin Plan Austin Strategic Mobility Plan Update]

ON ITEM B 22, UM, WHICH IS THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN UPDATE.

AND, UM, GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT.

I NEED TO PULL UP.

I HAD PROPOSED, UH, YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE, UM, CHANGE OF RULES AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO VIEW MUTU.

WE HAD, UM, THE STATE'S BEEN PUD AND WE'VE REVISED OUR, UM, HEARING AND DEBATE RULES TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, MORE Q AND A AND HERE WORKING GROUP AND INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME HERE, UM, BUT IT WILL BE WHAT I'VE BEEN.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY, I GUESS, COMMITTED THOMPSONS.

WE DON'T HAVE A, ANY WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS.

SO WHAT WE'LL END UP DOING IS JUST GIVING COMMISSIONERS TWO ROUNDS TO OFFER INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS, UH, IF THEY HAVE THEM.

AND SO I'LL JUST GO IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.

UM, SO LET ME JUST, UH, WE JUST NEED TO APPROVE, UH, WELL, LET ME SAY THIS.

IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION TO THESE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, REVISED DEBATE AMENDMENTS, WE'LL JUST MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT ANY CHANGES.

SO LET ME READ THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK.

UH, WE'LL HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION, IT'LL BE SIX MINUTES.

IS THAT CORRECT? OR CHAIR, COMMISSION, LIAISON AND VERA AT THE, UM, REQUEST, IF WE COULD ASK THE COMMISSION FOR 15 MINUTES FOR STEP PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT.

SO AS PART OF THIS, UH, APPROVAL OF A REVISION TO OUR RULES, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW STAFF 15 MINUTES AND THEN, UH, WE THEN MOVE INTO SPEAKERS FOR AND AGAINST.

AND DID YOU WANT TO TAKE THOSE IN THE ORDER THAT THEY SIGNED UP AS WE DID BEFORE? I'VE, UH, IN CONFIRMED WITH THE SPEAKERS, WE HAVE AN ORDER.

OH, YOU HAVE AN ORDER.

NO ORDER.

WE DO HAVE AN ORDER.

YES.

SO THEN WE'LL, SO THAT WILL BE, UM, HELP ME OUT HERE.

UH, I HAVE HERE THREE, THE FIRST THREE, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE HARD PART IS FOREIGN AGAINST, ARE WE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO FOREIGN, AGAINST TO START OUT AND THEN GO INTO ONE MINUTE EACH AFTER THAT CHAIR.

SO I HAVE, UM, IN THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE REGISTERED THERE OUT WITH NO DATA IT'S OPPOSITION.

SO WILL THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OH, THEY'RE ALL AN OPPOSITION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO YOU ALL AGREE WITH THAT FIRST FEAR GET SIX MINUTES AND THEN FOLLOWED THREE MINUTES FOR THE REMAINDER.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN, UM, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN WE, UH, THE NEXT STEP I HAD IS A WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS.

WE HAVE NONE AND Q AND A ON THAT.

WE HAVE NONE.

UH, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL NEED SOMEBODY TO SET UP A BASE MOTION, WHICH TYPICALLY WE'VE GONE WITH KIND OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT IS PROPOSED, BUT THEN WE'LL ALLOW TWO ROUNDS OF INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS.

AFTER WE HEAR FROM STAFF, YOU'VE HAD COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, I'VE GOTTEN A FEW, UH, AND AFTER YOU HEAR, UH, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, FOLKS MAY HAVE INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO PROPOSE.

THEY CAN BE VERY HIGH LEVEL, UM, YOU KNOW, OR YOU CAN GET INTO DETAIL OF A SPECIFIC STREET IF YOU WANT TO, BUT WE'LL MAKE, UH, A FIRST PASS ALPHABETICALLY.

AND THEN, UH, WE'LL SEE IF ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT.

AND THEN WE'LL, UH, AT SOME POINT WE'LL VOTE TO STOP, UM, POSTING AMENDMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE ON

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TO THE FINAL VOTE AT THAT POINT.

SO, UM, SO WHAT I'VE POSTED, I'M GOING TO GO OVER THIS ONE MORE TIME.

THAT'S REVISING OUR RULES.

WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW STAFF 15 MINUTES IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

THE SPEAKERS WILL THEN GIVE SIX MINUTES TO THE FIRST SPEAKER, THREE MINUTES FOR THE REMAINING SPEAKERS, AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, WE WILL THEN, UH, COMMISSION WILL PROPOSE A BASE MOTION, AND THEN WE WILL ENTERTAIN INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS TO THAT BASE MOTION AND WE'LL GO ALPHABETICAL.

UM, AND RIGHT NOW I'M PROPOSING TWO ROUNDS, BUT WE COULD GO ADDITIONAL IF NEEDED IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS.

SO, UH, DO I HEAR ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS FORMAT FOR THE HEARING AND DEBATE THIS EVENING OR ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN WAVE IT AND PICK IT UP THE SECOND, YOU WILL NOT LOSE YOUR ATTORNEY.

GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

JEREMY'S JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THESE RULES WITH THE 15 MINUTE FOR STAFF PRESENTATION NOTED.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, GO AHEAD QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT.

CAUSE I UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS, THIS, THIS ALL HAS A LONG HISTORY THAT PREDATES ME HERE.

UM, SO, UH, ARE WE ONLY TAKING, UM, AMENDMENTS ON WHAT IS ACTUALLY KIND OF LEGISLATED IN THE ASM P OR ARE WE ALSO CONSIDERING CONSIDERING ANY PROCEDURAL STUFF AS IT FINISHES OUT ITS JOURNEY TO COUNCIL? I CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC IF I NEED IT.

YEAH.

CAN YOU MAYBE GIVE AN EXAMPLE AND UH, LET ME CLARIFY.

ONE THING I DID NOT MENTION IS WE DO HAVE A, LET ME JUST BACK UP A LITTLE Q AND A IS GOING TO BE PART OF THIS, RIGHT? WE'LL HAVE A Q AND A'S AND WE CAN EXTEND THAT IF NEEDED.

SO WE HAVE THE EIGHT AND FIVE, UH, WE CAN CHANGE THAT RIGHT NOW TO ALLOW A SLOT FOR EACH COMMISSION OR TO ASK QUESTIONS.

SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE GO THAT DIRECTION AND JUST GET, YOU CAN PASS, BUT SHOULD WE GIVE EACH COMMISSIONER JUST THE OPTION TO ASK A QUESTION OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP IT LIMITED TO EIGHT FOR THIS AND WHATEVER THE COMMISSION FINDS IS? OKAY.

I JUST, UM, I MAY, I MAY HAVE QUESTIONS.

THEY MAY GET ANSWERED IN THIS.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO THIS.

LET'S KEEP IT AT EIGHT AND FIVE FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME, BUT WE CAN CHANGE OUR RULES IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

AND YOU HAD A, A QUESTION ON WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY AMEND, WHAT AMENDMENTS, WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE AMENDMENTS.

SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION KIND OF BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UH, MORE OF A PROCESS QUESTION.

UM, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? WELL, JUST IN TERMS OF, UM, OPPORTUNITY, PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES, ET CETERA, THAT MAY TAKE PLACE BEFORE THEY GO TO COUNCIL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES OR FOR KIND OF DONE WITH THAT NOW AS IT'S MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH BOARDS.

SO WHAT I HEAR WHEN I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS CAN WE MAKE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD, UH, KIND OF OFFER FOR MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL? IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT ARE CONNECTED REFLECTED IN OUR AMENDMENTS OR IS IT JUST ON THE TEXT? YOU KNOW, THE REGULATION CHANGES THEMSELVES.

SURE.

COME IN.

SHE ONLY IS ALANDRA AT THIS TIME.

IT'S ONLY ABOUT THE TEXAS LADY, I GUESS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

CHAIR.

YES.

COMMISSIONER CUTS.

UM, I THINK THIS RELATES TO THE ISSUE WE HAD LAST TIME WHERE I WANTED TO OFFER KIND OF PROCESS AND PROCEDURE AMENDMENTS, BUT STAFF TOLD US THAT THE WAY THE ITEM WAS POSTED IN THE AGENDA DID NOT ALLOW US TO DO THAT.

AND, AND I MADE A REQUEST AT THAT TIME THAT STAFF CHANGED THE BURBAGE AND HOW THEY POST THESE THINGS SO THAT WE CAN OFFER OPINIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND AMENDMENTS RELATED TO PROCESSES AS WELL.

SURE.

COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDOVER.

THE PROCESSES CURRENTLY PRESCRIBED BY CODE.

UM, THE COMMISSION IS CERTAINLY WELCOME TO REVIEW THAT CODE.

NO, ONCE IT'S DRY COMMITTED AT A FUTURE DATE.

SO THAT'S PERHAPS WHERE WE NEED TO START AT SOUNDS LIKE A SUGGESTION FROM MR. RIVERA THAT WE, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE USE OUR WHAT'S WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY TO MAYBE MAKE SOME CHANGES THERE, IF NEEDED.

UM, SO IT DOES NOT KEEP US FROM MAKING, UH, OFFERING RECOMMENDATIONS OUTSIDE OF AN AMENDMENT THOUGH.

I THINK WE CAN STILL DO THAT IF WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT THAT WAS NEEDED.

UM, I THINK WE CAN JUST ADD THAT IN AS A SUGGESTION TO STAFF

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AND COUNCIL.

UM, OKAY.

SO LET'S SEE, WHERE WERE WE ON THE JARED HAD MADE A MOTION THAT WE AMEND THE RULE TO THE 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION TIME FOR STAFF.

OKAY.

AT A SECOND BY FINISHED THOMPSON.

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON JUST THE AMENDMENT TO THE RULES THAT'S ON US AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER YANNIS POLLITO IS NOT, UM, VISIBLE AT THIS POINT.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD.

I THINK WE CAN MOVE, START WITH THE ISTAT PRESIDENT.

TAISHAN SO 15 MINUTES.

UH, GOOD EVENING CHAIR BY SHARE AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS .

I'M THE DEVELOPMENT OFFICER AND THE EXECUTIVE SPONSOR FOR THE ASM P AMENDMENT PROJECT FROM ATD.

YOU'LL HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME.

I LOST MY VOICE TODAY.

SO AS ALL OF, YOU KNOW, SNP WAS FIRST ADOPTED BACK IN 2019.

AND SINCE THEN, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, UM, THE COVID PANDEMIC THAT HAS CHANGED OUR LIVES FOREVER.

UH, IT CHANGED HOW WE WORK, HOW WE COMMUTE, HOW WE DO GO BY OUR DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE SUSTAINED AND NATURAL CALAMITIES LIKE THE WINTER STORM LAST YEAR ON TOP OF THAT, UH, DURING THE COVID, UH, THE ECONOMIC BOOM IN AUSTIN INTENSIFIED.

UH, AND WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE THE AFFORDABILITY CRISIS, AS WE ALL HEARD TODAY.

UH, DESPITE ALL THESE CHALLENGES, UH, WE ALSO HAVE SOME HIGH POINTS ON THE MOBILITY SIDE.

WE HAD THE PROJECT CONNECT PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE BORDERS AND CITY COUNCIL.

WE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ON THE MOBILITY CORRIDORS FROM PLANNING, DESIGN, AND CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE UPDATED OUR, UH, TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL FIRST TIME IN 40 YEARS TO UPGRADE AND UPDATE OUR DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, AS PER THE NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES.

SO WITH ALL THESE CHANGES, UH, THE INTENT OF SMP WAS NOT TO MAKE A WHOLESALE CHANGE, UH, TO S AND P, BUT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE UPDATES WE MADE IN ALL THESE PLANS, WE INCORPORATE THEM IN SNP.

UM, THE PROJECT CONNECT PLAN, WE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS.

WE MADE, UH, PROGRESS IN THE DESIGN.

SO WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE INCORPORATE THE DESIGN UPDATES INTO OUR, UH, S AND P PLAN.

UH, WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS ON THE MOBILITY CORRIDORS ON THE DESIGN SIDE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CROSS-SECTIONS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY REQUIREMENTS ARE CONSISTENT IN OUR SMP.

WE HAVE UPDATED OUR TCM, THE TRANSPORTATION CRAFT ROOM MANUAL.

WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE ALL THE CLASSIFICATIONS AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY OUR PLANNING AND DESIGN CRITERIA.

THOSE ARE CONSISTENT IN SMP.

SO WITH ALL THESE PROPOSALS, UM, EVEN THEN SMP IS NOT GOING TO BE PERFECT.

IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, UH, WITH THE CHANGING PARADIGM AROUND MOBILITY, WE HAVE TO KEEP UPDATING SMP EVERY YEAR OR EVERY OTHER YEAR.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE ARE TRYING TO UPDATE SMP.

UH, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST TIME WE PLAN TO COME BACK IN A YEAR OR TWO, UH, TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS, UH, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO COLE KAYTON, OUR DIVISION MANAGER FROM ATD.

UH, HE'S GOING TO WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE AMENDMENTS AND THE PROCESSES WE HAVE, UM, USED FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS CALL.

THANK YOU, CHAIR COMMISSION, COLE, KITTEN, DIVISION MANAGER, AND ATD, UH, OVERSEE THE SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.

I OVERSAW THE ADOPTION OF THE SMB IN 2019 AND, AND OVERSEEING THIS, UH, FIRST AMENDMENT CYCLE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS PRESENTATION BUILDS OFF OF THE BRIEFING THAT WAS GIVEN IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

UM, BUT IT GIVES A, UH, MORE OF AN OVERVIEW ON THE PROCESS AND TIMELINE, UM, IN OUR, IN A SHORT RECAP ON THE, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE'VE BEEN ASKED, UH, WHY ARE WE UPDATING DSNP? UM, A LOT OF THAT, OOP JUST EXPLAINED, BUT, UH, COUNCIL INITIATED, UH, THE AMENDMENT PROCESS, UH, AFTER ADOPTING, UH, THE PROJECT CONNECT SYSTEM PLAN IN JUNE OF 2020, UH, DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO AMEND THE ACMP TO ADD PROJECT CONNECT SYSTEM PLAN AND ITS, UH, ASSOCIATED TECHNICAL ELEMENTS.

UM, SO ADDITIONALLY, WHEN THEY SEND P WAS ADOPTED IN 2019, IT INCLUDED LANGUAGE THAT, UH, GAVE DIRECTION

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FOR WHEN WE WOULD BRING ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

UM, WHEN MODIFICATIONS TO THE, UM, ADOPTED RIGHT AWAY WITH, UH, WERE PROPOSED AND AS APRIL MENTIONED, UM, BASED ON UPDATES TO THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL, WHICH, UM, PRESCRIBE OUR DESIGN STANDARDS AND RIGHT OF WAY DIMENSIONS, UM, AS ALONG WITH OUR MOBILITY BOND PROJECTS IN THEIR ENGINEERING PLANS, BOTH OF THOSE, UM, UH, REALLY, UH, DROVE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS BEYOND JUST THE PROJECT CONNECT AMENDMENTS IDENTIFIED.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO A RECAP OF THE TIMELINE SO FAR, UM, WE STARTED IN MID OF, UH, MIDDLE OF 2021 WITH A, AN INTERDEPARTMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, UM, THAT LED TO A RELEASE OF A POLICY SURVEY ON OCTOBER 1ST, UM, FOLLOWED BY, UH, THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE STREET NETWORK AMENDMENTS, NOVEMBER 15TH.

AND THAT FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, CLOSED ON JANUARY 30TH.

AND, UH, WE USED, UH, THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY TO SUMMARIZE THE FEEDBACK IN THAT FIRST ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT AND MAKE UP, UH, AN UPDATED DRAFT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT WAS RELEASED AT THE END OF FEBRUARY, WHERE NOTIFICATION WAS SENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY REGISTRY OF THE, UH, UPDATED DRAFT.

WE ALSO PROVIDED MEMOS TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UM, ALONG THE WAY, NEXT SLIDE.

SO IN MARCH, UM, THIS WAS OUR SECOND ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT WHERE WE, UH, PRESENTED TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THE UPDATED DRAFT, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AND, UH, THOSE MEETINGS WERE INTENDED TO SHARE, UH, THE REVISIONS THAT HAD BEEN MADE TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AS WELL AS, UH, RECEIVE, UH, FEEDBACK AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, IN FRONT OF, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AS WELL AS TO THE COUNCIL MOBILITY COMMITTEE.

SO IN APRIL, UM, WE TOOK THE, UH, FEEDBACK IN RECEIVED IN ROUND TWO TO DEVELOP A FINAL DRAFT OF THE FINAL OF THE, OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.

AND WE SUMMARIZE, UH, ROUND TWO, UH, FEEDBACK, UH, INTO A REPORT.

SO IN MAY WE PUBLISH THE FINAL DRAFT ON MAY 3RD, UM, TODAY WE'RE AT PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN ON MAY 9TH IS WHEN WE'LL HAVE A COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOWED BY, UM, COUNCIL READINGS IN JUNE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, UH, THIS COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING WAS ADVERTISED AS REQUIRED IN THE AMERICAN STATESMAN 16 DAYS PRIOR, AS WELL AS SENDING OUT NOTIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY REGISTRY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

UM, ROUND ONE ENGAGEMENT, UH, BEGAN AS I SAID IN OCTOBER AND ENDED IN JUNE, JANUARY 30TH.

UM, BUT BEFORE THAT IT REQUIRED, UM, UH, DEPARTMENT OR REVIEW PROCESS TO IDENTIFY, UH, UH, NECESSARY AMENDMENTS.

UM, BUT WE WERE ALSO WAITING FOR PROJECT CONNECT TO ARRIVE AT A POINT IN THEIR DESIGN PROCESS, UM, SO THAT WE COULD INPUT THEIR, UM, UPDATED ENGINEERING PLANS AND RIGHT WAY REQUIREMENTS INTO OUR STREET NETWORK TABLE.

SO, UM, THE OTHER THING TO FACTOR IN DURING THIS FIRST ROUND AS WE WERE PLANNING IT IS THAT WE WERE STILL VERY MUCH, UM, WITHIN THE PANDEMIC DEALING WITH THE DELTA SURGE.

UM, AND DURING THIS FIRST ROUND, WE ALSO EXPERIENCED THE OMICRON SURGE.

SO THIS WAS, WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID NOT DEAL WITH IN, IN THE ORIGINAL PROCESS LEADING UP TO ADOPTING THE SMP.

UM, SO WE HAD TO DO OUR BEST TO ENGAGE, UM, WHILE MOVING THE NECESSARY AMENDMENTS, UH, FORWARD.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEEDED TO CONSIDER WAS THAT, UM, THERE WERE COMPETING NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, F UH, FROM A COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY TAXED WITH ENGAGEMENT, UM, WITH PROJECT CONNECT AND OUR OWN ATX WALK BACK ROLE PLANNING EFFORT.

SO IN THIS INITIAL AROUND THE GOAL WAS REALLY TO CREATE AWARENESS AND, UH, PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK.

SO ENGAGEMENT MATERIALS WERE PRODUCED IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

WE HAD A POLICY SURVEY THAT RECEIVED ALMOST, UM, SO 959 RESPONSES.

WE HAD AN ONLINE FEEDBACK MAP THAT RECEIVES 1600 MAP COMMENTS.

WE HAD A STORY MAP PRESENTATION THAT EXPLAINED THE AMENDMENTS, UM, AND WHAT, WHAT THE AMENDMENTS WERE INTENDED TO BE.

UH, WE ALSO DISTRIBUTED FLYERS IN LIBRARIES AND HAD, UH, TARGETED SOCIAL MEDIA IN SPECIFIC ZIP CODES.

AND, UM, BEFORE, UH, WE WENT INTO

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OMICRON, UH, WE HAD ONE IN-PERSON MEETING, UM, IN THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THREE VIRTUAL MEETINGS, AND WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EMAIL COMMUNICATION WITH 175 EMAILS RECEIVED.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO IN ROUND TWO, THAT STARTED WITH THE RELEASE OF THE UPDATED DRAFT ON FEBRUARY 28TH.

UM, WE ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, HAD THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS, UM, AND ALL OF THIS WAS TO PRESENT HOW WE REVISED THE AMENDMENTS BASED ON FEEDBACK RECEIVED IN ROUND ONE.

UM, SO WE HAD AN UPDATED ENGAGEMENT MATERIALS PRODUCED IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

AGAIN, WE UPDATED OUR STORY MAP PRESENTATION AND PROVIDED A FAQ BASED ON COMMENTS, UH, QUESTIONS RECEIVED IN ROUND ONE.

UM, AND WE UPDATED OUR FLYERS AND DISTRIBUTED THEM TO THE LIBRARIES AGAIN.

AND IN THIS TIME WE HAD A FEEDBACK FORM, UH, BUT IT ONLY RECEIVED 62 RESPONSES.

UM, AND WE ALSO ONLY RECEIVED 63 EMAILS, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UM, BUT WE DID FOCUS MORE, UM, UH, WITH NEIGHBORHOODS THAT EXPRESSED INTEREST.

SO WE HAD SIX VIRTUAL MEETINGS AT ONE IN-PERSON MEETING, AND I THINK THIS ENGAGEMENT IS REFLECTIVE OF, UM, HOW THE AMENDMENTS WERE REVISED IN RESPONSE TO ROUND ONE COMMENTS, NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES BUILD OFF OF EACH OTHER, BUT IT SHOWS THE TOTAL COMMENTS RECEIVED BY ZIP CODE AND A HEAT MAP.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AND WE OVERLAY OUR STRATEGIES THAT WE DEPLOYED TO TRY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY DURING THIS TIME.

UM, STARTING WITH TARGETED ZIP CODES WITH SOCIAL MEDIA TARGETING THE EASTERN CRESTON.

UM, THESE ARE ZIP CODES THAT ARE HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED, UNDERSERVED, UM, IN OUR ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, WE ALSO DISTRIBUTED FLYERS, UM, IN SPECIFIC LIBRARIES TO ENSURE THAT, THAT THIS, UH, REACHED THOSE THAT MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, DIGITAL DEVICES AND, UM, PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO USE, UH, UH, UH, DEVICES AT LIBRARIES, NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN THESE, UM, ZIP CODES ARE WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WHETHER VIRTUAL OR IN-PERSON NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN THOSE STARS, WHICH ARE HARD TO SEE, UM, INDICATE WHERE WE HAD SIGNIFICANT COMMUNICATION WITH SPECIFIC GROUPS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, NEXT SLIDE.

BUT ALL OF THAT COMBINED, UM, REALLY SHOWS WHERE, UH, WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS OVERLAID WITH, WITH WHERE OUR, WHERE OUR ENERGY WAS SPENT.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO IN SUMMARY, UH, THE MAJORITY OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, CAME DURING ROUND ONE.

MOST OF THOSE COMMENTS WERE CONCERNS ABOUT RECLASSIFYING LEVEL ONE STREETS TO LEVEL TWO STREETS.

AND AS A RESULT OF THOSE COMMENTS, UH, THOSE PROPOSED STREET LEVEL CHANGES WERE REMOVED IN ROUND TWO WHERE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, UH, EXISTS.

AND, UM, THERE'S A LIST OF STREETS THAT GENERATED THE MOST, UH, COMMENTS, UH, OVER BOTH ROUNDS.

AND THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF, UM, UH, KIND OF THE ENERGY SPENT, UH, RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO IN OUR FINAL ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT, UM, PER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS AND LEGAL GUIDANCE, UM, THE OFFICIAL PROCESS TO AMEND, UH, AN ELEMENT OF IMAGINE AUSTIN INCLUDES STARTING WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE, UM, THIS PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT, UH, THE NOTIFICATION IN THE AMERICAN STATESMAN AND COMMUNITY REGISTRY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL FOLLOWED BY THE COUNCIL, UH, READINGS.

AND THEN IN THIS FINAL ROUND, WE'VE PUBLISHED THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND UPDATED STORY MAP AND EX EXPLANATION OF THE AMENDMENTS, UM, WITH AN FAQ AND RECEIVING PUBLIC COMMENTS THROUGH THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, PROCESS NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UH, THIS IS THE RECAP OF WHAT'S IN THIS AMENDMENT CYCLE.

UM, IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A MAJOR, UH, REVISION OR REIMAGINATION OF WHAT WE HAD ESTABLISHED AS OUR NORTH STAR FOR TRANSPORTATION IN AUSTIN.

UM, BUT WE DID IDENTIFY WHAT WAS, UM, CONSIDERED GAPS, WEAKNESSES, AND NECESSARY AMENDMENTS.

SO THE POLICY DOCUMENT HAS THREE PROPOSED POLICY ADDITIONS AND VARIOUS, UH, ACTION ITEM, REVISIONS, AND ADDITIONS.

ALL OF THOSE CAN BE FOUND, UM, STARTING ON PAGE 10 OF YOUR BACKUP, UM, IN OUR RED LINE VERSION OF THE ASM P AND THEN IN THE STREET NETWORK TABLE AND MAP THE AMENDMENTS, UH, IDENTIFIED THERE

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ARE BASED ON UPDATES TO THE TCM, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE 2014 BICYCLE PLAN.

UH, THE PROJECT CONNECT, UM, CHANGES THE MOBILITY, BONDS REMOVED ROADWAYS AND ADDED ROADWAYS.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THESE ARE THE THREE PROPOSED, UM, POLICY ADDITIONS.

UH, THESE WERE THE, THE THREE THAT REALLY ELEVATED IN, UM, UH, RESPONSE TO EVALUATING, UH, THE PANDEMIC, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, EVENTS, CLIMATE EVENTS, UH, BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, BUT STARTING WITH ROADWAY SYSTEM SIX, UH, SUPPORT STREETS AS PLACES WHERE PEOPLE IN COMMUNITY ENGAGE IN NON MOBILITY ACTIVITY.

UM, THIS POLICY IS REFLECTIVE OF OUR HEALTHY STREETS INITIATIVE.

UM, AND THEN THE AIR AND CLIMATE POLICY AND COLLABORATION POLICY ARE BOTH SUPPORTIVE OF OUR, UM, TRANSPORTATION, RESILIENCE, UM, POLICIES.

ARE WE AT 15, UH, HOW MUCH LONGER, CAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR THIS.

UH, SO I MEAN, JUST TELL US WHAT YOU NEED TO FINISH.

SO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES REALLY ARE SHORT RECAPS OF WHAT WAS ALREADY, UH, PRESENTED IN MARCH, UM, REGARDING THE AMENDMENTS.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONED, DO WE WANT TO ALLOW ANOTHER, I DON'T HEAR ANY OBJECTIONS TO ANOTHER 10 MINUTES.

UM, NOT THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT ALL, BUT OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE.

OKAY.

UM, THESE, THESE CAN BE FOUND, UH, IN THE RED LINE VERSION AS WELL IN YOUR BACKUP, UH, WITH THE FULL SUPPORTING TEXT.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UH, MOST OF THE ATTENTION THROUGH THE AMENDMENT PROCESS HAS BEEN ON THE STREET NETWORK CHANGES.

SO, UM, IS IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW, A REMINDER OF WHAT THE STREET NETWORK IS AND WHAT IT'S USED FOR.

UM, IT IS A DATABASE OF STREETS, UH, ORGANIZED BY STREET NAME.

IT INCLUDES THE EXISTING AND FUTURE CONDITIONS OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THOSE FUTURE CONDITIONS REFLECT OUR TRANSPORTATION VISION, UM, PROJECTS AND IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FOR MULTIMODAL SYSTEMS, WALKING, BIKING, TRANSIT, DRIVING, ET CETERA.

UM, BUT IT IS USED ULTIMATELY FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS, UM, PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION IS, UH, REVIEWED, UM, DURING ZONING SUBDIVISION AND CIPLA SITE PLAN, UM, RESIDENTIAL PERMIT REVIEWS, UM, DO NOT REQUIRE OR TRIGGER THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION PROCESS.

UM, ONLY NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT OF A CERTAIN SIZE WILL, UM, TRIGGER, UH, A DEDICATION, UM, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, UM, THAT AMOUNTS TO ABOUT 10 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS OR OVER 15 TO 25, UH, MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, DEPENDING ON THE LAND VALUE.

SO ALL DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE REVIEWED DURING THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS FOR ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY BEFORE THE CITY IS ABLE TO, UH, REQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY TO BE DEDICATED.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE STREET NETWORK CHANGES INCLUDE, UM, STREET NETWORK, UH, UH, STREET LEVEL AMENDMENTS, CROSS SECTIONS, AND REQUIRED RIGHT OF WAY BASED ON, UH, THE STANDARDS IN THE TCM.

UM, AND THE 2014 BICYCLE PLAN WAS USED AS INGREDIENTS, UM, TO ALIGN THE STREET NETWORK, UH, WITH, UH, THE TCM BASED ON THE RECOMMENDED TYPE OF BICYCLE FACILITY.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT IMAGE, A, UH, STREET THAT HAS A DESIGNATED BIKE FACILITY, UM, IS ALIGNS WITH THE LEVEL TWO STREET.

NEXT SLIDE.

THE OTHER STREET NETWORK CHANGES INCLUDE, UH, REFLECTING THE UPDATED CROSS SECTIONS AND REQUIRED RIGHT AWAY REQUIREMENTS FROM THE ENGINEERING PLANS AND THE PROJECT CONNECT, UH, PLANS.

UH, IT ALSO INCLUDES UPDATING THE TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM MAP TO REFLECT THE ADOPTED PROJECT CONNECT SYSTEM PLAN.

AND THEN IT INCLUDES, UH, REFLECTING THE UPDATED CROSS-SECTIONS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE MOBILITY BONDS.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, A HANDFUL OF REMOVED ROADWAYS BASED ON FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED DURING THE PROCESS, AS WELL AS, UH, ADDED ROADWAYS, UM, FOR INVENTORYING PURPOSES, UH, BASED ON STREETS THAT HAD BEEN PLANTED SINCE 2019.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO A SUMMARY OF STREET LEVEL CHANGES, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TABLE, THE MO UH, 91.1% OF THE STREET NETWORK IS PROPOSED TO MAINTAIN WHAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2019.

4% OF THE CHANGES ARE THOSE LEVEL ONE

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STREETS THAT HAVE BEEN PLANTED SINCE 2019.

AND THEN THERE ARE 0.7% OF THE STREET NETWORK.

UM, THE, UH, LEVEL ONE STREETS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE RECLASSIFIED TO TWO STREETS.

AND THEN 2.5% ARE LEVEL TWO STREETS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE RECLASSIFIED TO LEVEL ONE STREETS.

SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, UM, SCALE OF HOW MANY AMENDMENTS ARE ACTUALLY BEING PROPOSED.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN, UH, THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE SHOWING, UH, NEXT STEP BEING PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL AND THEN CITY COUNCIL READINGS, AND THEN, UH, THROUGH Q AND A, IF ANYTHING, UM, RELATES TO THE BACKUP PROVIDED WE CAN, WE CAN PULL UP THAT INFORMATION THEN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I GUESS MR. RIVERA, YOU GOING TO ANNOUNCE THE SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

YES.

SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, HEARING FROM MR. REYNOLDS, MR. REYNOLDS, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

GOOD COMMISSIONERS.

I'M JOE REYNOLDS AND I LIVE ON WEST 49TH STREET.

I WANT TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS HOW DEFECTIVE PLANNING LEADS TO LATER FAILED PROJECTS.

PLANNING AN AUSTIN OFFICE FOCUSES ONLY ON DESIRED OUTCOMES, NOT ON THE COST OR PROBLEMS OF IMPLEMENTATION.

THAT SEEMS VERY TRUE FOR THIS VERSION OF ASM P THE STREETS HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED BASED ONLY ON ISSUES SEEN WITH A MAP WEIGHTED WITH THINGS LIKE BICYCLE PLANS.

MANY OF THE STREETS HAVE RIGHT AWAY SPECIFICATIONS THAT HAVE VERY LOW PROBABILITY OF BEING REALIZED THAT FIRST, ANDREW, IF I CAN GET THE FIRST SLIDE.

YEAH, HERE'S HANCOCK NEXT TO THE CEMETERY WITH A STATE CONTROL BRIDGE OVER MOPAC.

THERE'S NO CHANCE OF THAT GETTING WIDER OR IN THE BOTTOM PICTURE, 49TH STREET BORDERED ON BOTH SIDES BY STATE LAND AND A STATE PARKING GARAGE, BOTH 49TH AND SUNSHINE OR ALLSTATE LAND.

LET'S GET THE NEXT SLIDE.

AND HERE'S BARTON CREEK ROAD WITH A RAILROAD BRIDGE SEEING LAURA RIGHT NEXT TO THE PETER PAN, BUT IT ALSO HAS A HIDDEN FAILURE.

THE HILLSIDE JUST AT LAMAR, OTHER CITY PLANS HAVE BEEN SIMILAR AND FOCUS ONLY ON OBJECTIVES LIKE THE TRAIL PLAN.

THE TAGLINE THERE WAS DOWNTOWN TO THE DOMAIN.

THIS DEFECTIVE FOCUS LEADS TO TROUBLE BECAUSE DURING IMPLEMENTATIONS, THE PLAN IS TAKEN TO BE REAL.

IT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

SO THE BUILDERS DON'T LOOK FOR TROUBLE WITHIN.

THEY FIND IT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TRAIL PLAN, FOLLOWED THE SELECTED ROUTE AND CONTRACTED FOR A PAVED ROUTE PAVED PATH ALONG SHOW CREEK.

THEY DIDN'T NEED TO SEE THE NEED TO CHECK FOR WELL-KNOWN GEOLOGIC CONDITIONS THAT MAKE THAT ROUTE AND FEASIBLE.

NAMELY, THE DEL RIO PLAY THAT MAKES SHOW CREEK BANKS SEEM VERY, BE VERY UNSTABLE.

AND THE THIRD SLIDE, THE RESULTING COLLAPSE SHOWN HERE AS A CURRENT COST, JUST UNDER $20 MILLION.

THAT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T CHECK ON THINGS AND BECAUSE THE PLAN DIDN'T INCLUDE THE NECESSARY DATA, ASM P IS DOING THE SAME THING, CHOOSING ROUTES WITHOUT LISTING LIMITED LIMITATIONS.

SOME LIKE THE CEMETERY ALONG HANCOCK WILL BE OBVIOUS PROBLEMS CAUGHT DURING THE PROJECT.

OTHERS WERE NOT LIKELY TO BE CAUGHT.

BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AT LAMAR HAS A LONG HISTORY OF HILLSIDE COLLAPSE YET ASM P WITHOUT CONSIDERING THAT CALLS FOR WIDER RIGHT OF WAY, THAT WOULD DISTURB THESE ESTEEMED HILLSIDE CAUSING ANOTHER COLLAPSE, LACK OF PLANNING.

ISN'T JUST PHYSICAL THINGS, BUT INCLUDES CITY PROCESSES THAT CAN CHANGE BEFORE THE PLAN GETS EXECUTED, LIKE WHEN RIGHT OF WAY IS CONSIDERED FOR NOW IT'S SITE PLAN AND ZONING AND FOR SELECT CATEGORIES OF, OF, UH, DENSITY IN FIVE YEARS WITH PROJECT CONNECT, WHAT WILL IT BE? ASM P SHOULD NOT BE ADVANCED UNTIL ISSUES OF IMPLEMENTATION ARE IDENTIFIED, RECOGNIZED, AND CLEARLY NOTED.

SO THE FOLLOW-ON TEAMS DON'T RUN INTO TROUBLE PLANS MUST BE MORE THAN JUST DESIRES AND OBJECTIVES.

THEY MUST INCLUDE LIMITATIONS AND LOGISTICS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MS. .

MS. MAZZA PUNKS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SOME SLOTS.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING US.

I'M MEGAN MEISENBACH AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE AND I'VE SEEN SOME THINGS THAT I DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT THE ASM P THAT WERE CORRECTED,

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BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SLOPE FAILURE THAT MR. REYNOLDS TALKED ABOUT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS A DRAWING BY, UH, PROFESSOR PETER FLAWN, WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS FROM HIS BOOK.

AND, UM, THE SCREEN SORT OF CUTS IT OFF, BUT THERE'S A BUILDING AT THE TOP OF THE HILL AND A SLOPE.

THEN THE BOTTOM OF THE SLOPE IS REMOVED.

SO THAT POINTED PART IS REMOVED IN THE SECOND PICTURE DOWN.

AND THE THIRD PICTURE DOWN THE SLOPE HAS COLLAPSED AGAIN, AND THE BUILDING IS NOW CLOSER TO THE EDGE.

IF THE SLOPE IS DISTURBED FURTHER, THE BUILDING GETS CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE EDGE.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED ON SHOAL CREEK.

COULD YOU JUST CHANGE THE SLIDE, PLEASE? THIS IS A DEFINITION OF SLOPE FAILURE, ALSO IN THE SAME BOOK.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE SHOW CREEK COLLAPSE BEFORE IT REALLY GOT THAT BAD IN THE STATESMAN.

AND THIS IS 2019, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WHAT WAS A HILLSIDE WITH LOTS OF GREENERY IS NOW AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL, ALONG WITH TREES, AND IT'S MUCH, MUCH WORSE.

NOW, NEXT, PLEASE.

THIS IS ANOTHER SLOPE FAILURE ON, UM, 38 0 2.

UM, AND THE PROPERTY VALUES VERY STRANGE.

I THINK IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS ON THE HUGE PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHERE AGAIN, THERE WAS SLOPE FAILURE.

SO THE BARE PART IS SLOPE FAILURE.

THE GROUND WENT TO THE BOTTOM AND YOU CAN SHUT OFF THE SIDES.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, THE OTHER ISSUE I HAVE IS THIS, UM, RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION, EARMARKING, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

UM, MY STREET IS 30 FEET WIDE AND IT IS NOW SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO BE 76 FEET WIDE.

AND IF YOU DIVIDE UP THE TAKING, I THINK I WOULD LOSE 20 FEET OF THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY AND IT MAKES ME VERY UNEASY AND NO I'M NOT GOING TO DEVELOP MY PROPERTY TO 10 BUILDINGS OR 10 RESIDENCES, BUT MY HEIRS MAY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE OUT ON QUITE A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND ALTHOUGH THAT SOUNDS VERY SELFISH OF ME, THERE ARE MANY, MANY HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE ALL OVER TOWN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MS. RANKIN.

MR. RANKIN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

WELL, GOOD EVENING.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND, UH, VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS I'M JANUS RANK, AND A RESIDENT DISTRICT SEVEN, WHERE I LIVE NEAR WHITE ROCK DRIVE.

IN MY EXPERIENCES IN ATTORNEY, I'VE WORKED FOR A MUNICIPALITY STATE AGENCIES, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AND RACHEL AND SERVED 12 YEARS AS MEMBERS OF THE TEXAS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

UH, TODAY I SPEAK ON MY OWN BEHALF, ALTHOUGH I'M A MEMBER OF THE ALLENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD, I DO BELIEVE MY COMMENTS ACTUALLY ACCURATELY REFLECT THE JUSTIFIABLE CONCERNS AND FRUSTRATIONS AND MANY PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER SECTORS OF AUSTIN.

I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CLOSE ATTENTION.

HERE'S THE PROBLEM.

THIS PREDESIGNATED EXPANSION OF ROD WAY IS LIKE PULLING A RABBIT OUT OF A HAT.

YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET, BUT MAGIC HAS TO HAPPEN.

IF THE CITY ASSERTS THAT THE EXPANDED RIGHT OF WIDE DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A TAKING OF PROPERTY PROPERTY.

NOW IT CERTAINLY LAYS THAT FOUNDATION.

THE CITY IS MARKING HIS TERRITORY ON AN INTERACTIVE INTERNET MAP.

THAT IS A PUZZLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO DECIPHER.

IT DOES NOT PROPERLY NOTIFY PROPERTY OWNERS.

THANKFULLY ONE WEEK AGO, WE WERE PRESENTED WITH AN ACTUAL TABLE AND LIST OF STREETS THAT WERE AFFECTED, BUT THAT WAS ONE WEEK AGO.

AND NEXT WEEK WE'RE THINKING THIS THINKING THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT.

THE STRATEGY OF PROSPECTIVELY DESIGNATING, MY MASSIVE RIGHT-AWAY CHANGES IN ASAP PUTS A BLIGHT ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.

IT ADVERSELY AFFECTS THEM.

IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT UPDATING TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS TO A TRANSPORTATION COMPLAINT.

IT IS INTENTIONALLY VAGUE AS STATED BY CITY STAFF IN A PUBLIC MEETING.

IT IS PAVING THE WAY FOR PROSPECTIVE SHIFT IN A CITY-WIDE LAND USE AND REZONING POLICY.

AND IT FAILS TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TEXAS PROPERTY CODE CHAPTER 21, CONCERNING EMINENT DOMAIN AND THINGS THAT CITIES HAVE TO DO TO MAKE A CLAIM FOR PROPERTY.

HERE'S THE ASK IN THE INTEREST OF HONESTY AND TRANSPARENCY.

YOUR RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE IN AN OFFICIAL ORDINANCE THAT THESE PREDESIGNATED RIGHT-AWAY

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EXPANSIONS ARE NOT A BASIS FOR ANY LEGAL OR EQUITABLE CLAIM BY THE CITY FOR ITS OR ITS AGENTS OR EMPLOYEES TO TAKE THIS RIGHT OF WAY DESIGNATION NOW OR LATER, THESE RIGHT-AWAY IMAGES ON AN INTERACTIVE MAP ARE MERELY GRAPHICS TO BE USED AS PLANNING TOOLS AND NOT TO LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR THE CITY CLEANSING OR USING THAT RIGHT OF WAY NOW OR LATER, SUCH AN ORDINANCE WOULD BE A PUBLIC DOCUMENT ON FILE WITH THE CITY CLERK AND RETRIEVABLE BY THE PEOPLE.

UNLIKE AN INTERACTIVE MAP ON AN INTERNET PAGE, THE CITY STAFF HAS MADE SUGGESTIONS TO ASSURE THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY WILL NOT BE USED IN SINGLE-FAMILY SOUND AREAS, BUT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DEPEND ON ASSURANCES OF STAFF.

THIS IS ON THE COUNCIL, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY TAKE ACTION TO ASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY CONDEMNATION OF THESE AWAY DESIGNATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TERM.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. PAUL RUSSOS.

MR. ASSIST, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE A PACKAGE, UH, PASSED OUT IS THE ITEM I SENT TO YOU, UH, MAY THE NINTH AND ALSO HAD AN ATTACHMENT THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY USE AND GET IT FROM, UH, DOWNLOAD IT.

ALSO HAVE A MAP OF THE AREA I'M GOING TO SPEAK BACK TONIGHT.

UH, THIS IS A WESTFIELD BOULEVARD FROM, UH, WILLIAM CANNON TO MANASSAS DRIVE THE SOUTH OF WILLIAM CANON.

UM, I LEAVE THE 73 0 3 WEST GATE SINCE 1979.

UM, OUR DRIVEWAY ON THE STREET PHASE, A DRIVE WAS FACED THE STREETS, ALL OF THEIR HOMES FOR MANASSAS TO WILLIAM CANON.

THE, UH, WHEN THE STUDIO WAS BUILT, IT WAS BUILT WELL CARLENE WITH A MEDIUM AND YOU IN, AND THEN A BIKE LANE IN.

SO WE DID HAVE AN ICE STREET.

THE SPEED LIMIT WAS 30 MILES PER HOUR.

IT WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTOR STREET, WHICH THEY CALL IT NOW LEVEL TWO, UM, WITH NO INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS, THE CITY CHANGED THE STREET TO LEVEL THREE AND ALSO RAISE THE SPEED LIMIT TO 35.

UM, THE, UH, UH, BASICALLY THIS A VERY, VERY DANGEROUS STREET.

WE HAVE MANY ACCIDENTS.

UM, WE HAD, UH, EVEN THE CHILD DEATH, A CAR DRIVING THROUGH THE MEDIAN AND HE DIDN'T RETREAT.

UM, WE HAVE NO PUDDLE AND HOSPITAL HISTORY ACROSS BOOKS.

THERE IS NO LIGHT.

UH, THIS IS A THREE FOURTH OF A MILE, UH, SEGMENT THERE.

UM, THERE ARE NO PROJECTED SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURNS, UH, THERE'S DANGER FOR THE SCHOOL BUSES MAKING TURNS, THE CAP, METRO BUSES, AND ALSO THE POST OF HIS PERSON IS STOPS AT EVERY HOUSE TO DELIVER.

UH, ALSO THE PEOPLE LIVING ON THE WEST SIDE OF WEST GATE, ABC STREETS, WE CALL HIM, THEY HAVE TO CROSS ACROSS TWO LANES TO GO NORTH ALSO CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS AND DANGER.

SO ON MARCH NINE, I SENT, UH, MR. KEATON, UH, MY RECOMMENDATIONS AND BASICALLY, UH, MY RECOMMENDATION, THE MAIN RECOMMENDATIONS WERE CLASSIFY WEST GATE FOR WILLIAM CANADA.

MY MASTERS IS LEVEL TWO, INSTEAD OF THE LEVEL THREE, REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT 30 MILES PER HOUR.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE THE RIGHT OF WAY, 216 FEET FROM THE CURRENT APPROXIMATE 84 FEET.

AND I, HERE, I CALL THIS CONTEXTUAL FACTORS, BUT ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE, UM, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION MANUAL.

UM, TCM, BASICALLY THE CRITERIA IS THAT, UH, WITH MUSTARD, YOU SAY ON MY OPINION IS A HIGH CONFLICT AND HIGH DENSITY.

THE STREET, UH, BASED ON THAT ALONG THE SPEED LIMIT SHOULD BE BETWEEN 25 AND 30 MILES PER HOUR.

UH, HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT IF YOU LIKE TO LOOK THREE, BASICALLY MY STREET IS NOT, UH, AT LEAST IN THE 2004 FOOT BIKE LANE, THEN WHAT WE WANTED TO DO BIKE LANE.

NOW I'M NOT AGAINST BIKE LANES, UM, IS NOT IN THE BICYCLE PRIORITY NETWORK IS NOT LISTENED TO TRANSIT PROJECT INTERCOURSE.

IT DOES NOT HAVE HIGH FREQUENCY ROUTE.

IT IS NOT LISTED IN THE MAJESTIC CORRIDORS.

AND THEN MY LAST THING IS FOR MYSTIC, UH, SEE UP, THEY NEED DROP DATE, THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION MAP.

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THEY SHOW THAT MAP ON WHOLE.

THEY SHOW YOU THAT WEST GATE, MY SEGMENT IS HIGH FREQUENCY ROUTE, AND IT'S NOT HIGH FREQUENCY HAS TO BE 15 MINUTES OR LESS HOURS IS 30 MINUTES SO BAD.

SO THEN IT REMOVE THAT DESIGNATION FROM THEIR MAP.

THEY LISTED ON THEIR REPORT.

I WANT TO STOP AND ASK ANY QUESTION I HAVE.

YEAH, WELL, WE HAVE YOUR THANK YOU FOR THIS HANDOUT AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND WE I'M SURE SOME OF US MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO PLEASE SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE NICE CHAIR COMMISSIONER LAYS ON.

I'M VERY FOR THE COMMISSION WITH ENTERTAINMENT THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL FROM STAFF COCONUT TD.

UM, SO REGARDING THE LAST SPEAKER, UH, WE DID PROVIDE A RESPONSE TO MR. RUSSO AND WE, WE ALSO PROVIDED THAT, UH, TO CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WEST GATE IS RECOMMENDED IN THE ADOPTED DSMP, UM, FOR A CORRIDOR MOBILITY STUDY.

UM, WE DO BELIEVE THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE A CHANGE LIKE REDUCING, UM, A CORRIDOR FROM FOUR TRAVEL LANES TO TWO TRAVELINGS THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO DO, UM, AN IN DEPTH EVALUATION THE WAY IN WHICH WE'VE DONE FROM THE 2016 MOBILITY BOND, UM, CORRIDORS THAT ARE NOW, UM, GOING TO CONSTRUCTION.

SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DISAGREE WITH MR. RUSSO.

UM, IT IS JUST THAT THEY SMP IS NOT AT THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT ALLOWS US TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION TO REDUCE, UM, UH, THE, UH, NUMBER OF TRAVEL LANES, UM, AND THEN THEREFORE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT WHAT THE ASM P DOES DO IS, UM, PRESERVES THE IDEAL AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY TO, UH, UH, BASED ON A FOUR LANE ROADWAY TO ENSURE THAT IF DEVELOPMENT DOES OCCUR ALONG WEST GATE, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THAT SPACE FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO, UM, BICYCLE BICYCLE FACILITIES THAT MAY BE PROTECTED OUTSIDE OF THE STREET.

UM, OR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS MAY ACTUALLY INCORPORATE, UM, THOSE PROTECTED FACILITIES AS PART OF THEIR SITE DESIGN.

SO, UM, WE HAVE TO USE THE STREET NETWORK AS A STARTING POINT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, UM, AS WELL AS THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, BUT IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE US FROM, UM, EXPLORING, UM, UH, DESIGN IDEAS IN THE INTERIM.

SO WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO STUDY WEST GATE, UM, MORE COMPLETELY, UM, TO MAKE THOSE, UH, NEAR TERM CHANGES.

SO AS FAR AS, UH, OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE BACKUPS STARTING ON PAGE 52 OF 58 IS WHERE WE HAVE A FAQ AND IT, IT SHARES, UM, OUR UPDATED TCM.

CROSS-SECTIONS A FEW OF THEM IN COMPARISON TO THE OLD TCM.

AND THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THESE STREET NETWORK AMENDMENTS ARE FOR.

UM, STARTING WITH LEVEL ONE, UH, THE PAVEMENT SPACE, 30 FEET FROM CURB TO CURB IS STAYING THE SAME.

UM, BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IN OUR UPDATED TCM IS ACTUALLY PROVIDING MORE SPACE TO SUPPORT STREET TREES AND WIDER SIDEWALKS, UM, AS WELL AS THE NECESSARY, UH, SETBACK FOR MAINTENANCE TO THOSE SIDEWALKS.

UM, SO IT'S NOT THAT THE STREETS ARE EXPANDING.

IT'S ACTUALLY THE BEHIND THE CURB FACILITIES THAT ARE, UM, AND THEN MOVING ONTO OUR LEVEL TWO STREETS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT MANY OF OUR STREETS IN AUSTIN WERE DEVELOPED ON OLD STANDARDS, UM, THAT HAVE WIDER CURB TO CURB DIMENSIONS.

AND OUR NEW STANDARDS ARE ACTUALLY NARROWER FROM CURB TO CURB.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UM, A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING FISSURES ARE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, PUT ON THE DYESS.

UH, THAT'S IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE HEARING.

THAT'S EVERYONE, THOSE ON THE SCREEN.

OKAY.

THAT'S EVERYONE WITH A COMMISSION OR PRACTICE? NOT VISIBLE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S GO AND START WITH, UH, Q AND A, UM, WE'LL KEEP IT A EIGHT OF FIVE, BUT WE CAN CHANGE OUR RULES IF MORE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS TO SEE COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER'S HANDS UP.

SO YOU GO AHEAD AND START US OFF.

OKAY.

THANKS WHILE IT'S STILL FRESH ON EVERYBODY'S

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MIND THAT IT'S JUST A QUESTION FOR, UH, UH, MR. KITTEN.

UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE ON THE, UH, THE, UH, ISSUE ABOUT WHAT SKATES SOUTH OF, OR WHATEVER DIRECTION THAT IS BETWEEN WE IN CANON AND, UM, AND THEN ASSETS, UH, AND THAT, UH, THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT IT, YOU KNOW, MAY DESERVE FURTHER STUDY.

CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT HOW THAT IS NOT GOING TO GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE, HOW THAT SORT OF STUDY WILL HAPPEN OR GET IN THE QUEUE TO HAPPEN? UH, SO THE QUESTION IS, UH, WHAT DO WE NEED, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DO THE STUDY? UM, YEAH, SO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR RESPONSES.

IT'S NOT REALLY APPROPRIATE TO LIKE, MAKE A MOTION TO DESIGNATE THAT STRAIGHT BACK TO A LEVEL TWO STRAIGHT, BUT INSTEAD IT IS APPROPRIATE TO, UM, HAVE ONGOING EXAMINATION OF, UH, THE CAPACITY OR THE, WHAT THE PROPER DESIGNATION OF THE STREETS SHOULD BE IN THE FUTURE.

RIGHT.

SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS? RIGHT.

SO IN 2019, UH, THE ORIGINAL ADOPTION OF THE S AND P WAS, WAS REALLY INTENDED TO BE THAT VISIONING EFFORT TO GET BEHIND, UM, CHANGES, UH, TO THE FUTURE CONDITIONS OF ROADWAYS.

SO THIS IS WHERE, UM, UH, ROADWAY, EXPANSIONS, NEW ROADWAYS, ET CETERA, WERE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC.

AND WE HAD A VERY, UM, ROBUST ENGAGEMENT EFFORT TO SUPPORT THOSE PROPOSED, UH, UM, IMPROVEMENTS.

WHEREAS IN THIS AMENDMENT CYCLE, IT HAS BEEN A LIMITED OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY ENTIRELY DUE TO THE PANDEMIC AND OTHER COMPETING NEEDS.

UM, SO, UH, A DECISION LIKE REDUCING WESTGATE TO TWO LANES, UM, REQUIRES A MORE ROBUST ENGAGEMENT, UM, OPPORTUNITY.

SO, UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, TYPICALLY GETS, UM, CAN BE FUNDED THROUGH OUR MOBILITY BONDS WHEN THEY'RE FOLLOWED BY ACTUAL DOLLARS FOR CONSTRUCTION.

OTHERWISE, UM, WE LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES WITH OUR OPERATING FUNDS TO DO, UM, SMALL AREA PLANS, AS WELL AS CORRIDOR, UM, UH, STUDIES, UM, BUT THEY'RE SMALLER IN SCALE AND GENERALLY IN AN EFFORT TO IMPLEMENT, UM, BICYCLE FACILITIES THAT ARE IN THE BICYCLE PRIORITY NETWORK.

UH, OKAY.

UH, WHAT I'VE HEARD YOU SAY IN RESPONSE TO MR. RUSSO WAS THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE ONGOING EXAMINATION OF THIS PORTION OF THE STREET.

MAYBE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT, OR IF I DID, UM, I'M STILL NOT CLEAR HOW THAT HAPPENS OR HOW THAT GETS IN THE QUEUE TO HAPPEN.

SO, UM, IT IS ADOPTED ALREADY IN THE S AND P FOR A PROPOSED CORRIDOR STUDY.

SO, UM, DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S A, A MOBILITY BOND, UH, DEVELOPMENT CYCLE, UM, IT COULD BE ADDED TO THE LIST OF CORRIDORS THAT GETS STUDIED, UM, THROUGH GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, OTHERWISE, UM, IT COULD BE ON A LIST OF CORRIDORS THAT, UM, ARE EVALUATED USING OUR DEPARTMENT'S OPERATING, UM, FUNDS, BUT, UH, THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO PURSUE, UM, EVALUATING, UM, THESE, THESE CORRIDORS, I THINK SO IT'S, IT'S ALREADY, IT IS ALREADY IN THE QUEUE.

IT'S SORT OF A MATTER OF PRIORITIZING IT IN BUDGET.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANKS CHAIR.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER COX.

YEAH, A QUESTION FOR A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, UM, ON THE ENGAGEMENT SUMMARY, YOU LISTED A NUMBER OF STREETS THAT GENERATED THE MOST COMMENTS, ALL OF THEM, EXCEPT OUR PORT BOULEVARD APPEAR TO BE, UH, STREETS THAT HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON EACH SIDE WHEN Y'ALL MADE THE CHANGE, UM, REGARDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND LEVEL ONE TO LEVEL TWO.

DID THAT GENERALLY SATISFY THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU WERE GETTING ON, ON THOSE MOST POPULAR STREETS, UH, THAT THAT'D BE ACCURATE? UM, I THINK THOSE STREETS LISTED, UM, WERE PRIMARILY BASED ON THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UM, BASED ON OUR REVISION TO THE AMENDMENTS, WE REMOVED, UM, LEVEL

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TWO DESIGNATIONS FOR STREETS THAT WERE, UM, PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

UH, WE ONLY, UH, KEPT LEVEL TWO RECLASSIFICATIONS FOR STREETS THAT HAD ADJACENT NON SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, UM, WHICH MEANS THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT TO DEDICATE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY AND INCORPORATE THOSE STREET DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.

SO THAT, THAT WAS THE GOAL OF THE STREET NETWORK, UM, TO ENSURE THAT ANYWHERE THAT THERE WAS, UH, NON SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, WE HAD A LEVEL TWO STREET IF THE BICYCLE PLAN RECOMMENDED A BICYCLE FACILITY.

SO, UM, NO, THAT'S FINE.

UH, IT, AND FOLLOWING ON, UH, MR. REYNOLDS PRESENTATION, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M A, I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER.

SO I ALWAYS THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, A GOOD PLANNING PROCESS OR A SOLID PLAN IS ALWAYS, UH, THE FIRST STEP TO A GOOD PROJECT.

UM, I AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT, COULD YOU ELABORATE ON EITHER THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT OR THE ASAP AS IT IS NOW? UM, IS THERE ANY EVALUATION OF FEASIBILITY IN TERMS OF THE RIGHT-AWAY EXPANSIONS CALLED FOR, OR INFRASTRUCTURE EXPANSIONS THAT ARE CALLED FOR, UH, ALONG THESE ROUTES, OR IF THERE ISN'T ANY SORT OF FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS THAT GOES INTO THAT, WHAT IS THE TYPICAL PROCESS, UM, THAT ATD FOLLOWS, UH, BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY GET TO CONSTRUCTION ON SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CALLED FOR IN THE ASA IS RIGHT.

SO IN THE ORIGINAL PROCESS TO ADOPT BASE MP, UM, THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE FEASIBILITY ENGINEERING EVALUATION FOR THE PROPOSED, UH, VEHICLE CAPACITY PROJECTS.

UM, THOSE THAT, UM, WERE DEEMED FEASIBLE, MADE IT INTO THE PLAN AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY MADE IT INTO THE, UH, ROADWAY CAPACITY PROJECTS IN THE STREET IMPACT FEE.

UM, SO THOSE THAT ARE IN THE PLAN ARE IN THE STREET IMPACT FEE AND ARE CONSIDERED, UM, FEASIBLE.

UM, BUT IT ISN'T UNTIL THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AFTER THEY CMP WHERE THOSE PROJECT LEVEL DETAILS ARE FIGURED OUT AND, UM, THE NECESSARY AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY IS IDENTIFIED.

SO THE STREET NETWORK INCLUDES THE, UM, STANDARDS AS SHOWN IN THE TCM AS A STARTING POINT.

UM, BUT THE TCM ALSO PROVIDES GUIDANCE ON HOW TO MODIFY THOSE STANDARDS, UM, USING FLEXIBLE DESIGN CRITERIA, UM, TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND CONSTRAINTS.

AND, AND SO, AND SO JUST TO BOIL IT DOWN TO KIND OF LAYMAN'S TERMS, UM, IF AN ENGINE, IF AN ENGINEER IS HIRED BY ATD TO, TO BASICALLY REALIZE ONE OF THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE CALLED FOR IN THE SMP AND THE ENGINEER SAYS, WELL, THIS ISN'T REALLY FEASIBLE.

THE CODE HAS PROVISIONS TO ALLOW THAT ENGINEER TO, TO KIND OF MODIFY, UM, WHAT, WHAT THE PLANS ARE CALLING FOR IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO, TO FIT THE CONDITIONS, THE IN-SITU CONDITIONS, RIGHT.

UM, UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

THIS IS OPAL BUREAU FROM ATD YOU'RE RIGHT.

OUR NEW TCM PROVIDES THE CONTEXT SENSITIVE GUIDELINE.

LIKE WHENEVER YOU HAVE A CONCENTRATE TO IMPLEMENT SMP, THERE ARE WAYS TO PROVIDE THE, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIVITY FOR BICYCLE PEDESTRIANS OR AUTO TRAFFIC TO, TO IMPLEMENT THAT.

UM, SO THAT IS TO SAY THAT YES, THERE COULD BE SOME CONSTANCE TODAY TO IMPLEMENT US TO IMPLEMENT A CERTAIN STREET, BUT THE INTENT OF SNP IS TO MAKE SURE MAYBE 25, 30 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN WE HAVE A NEED FOR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, WE DESERVED THAT TODAY WHENEVER A NEW DEVELOPMENT PROCESS KICKS IN.

OKAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANY MORE TIME, BUT, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE LEGAL COMMENT THAT WE GOT FROM A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, I'M CURIOUS, I'M STRUGGLING TO FOLLOW THE KIND OF PRE TAKING CONCEPT THAT THE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SHARED WITH US.

UM, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF, IF ATD HAS PASSES THROUGH LEGAL AND LEGAL, DOESN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH, WITH THE WAY THIS IS PRESENTED IN TERMS OF PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAYS.

UM, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

YES, WE HAVE CONSULTED WITH, YEAH.

SO, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THE QUESTION.

WE'LL GO AHEAD.

AND, UM, THAT'S THE LAST ONE? COMMISSIONER COX.

OKAY.

OH, WE'RE AT A TIME, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

HI.

YES.

COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE LAW

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DEPARTMENT, UH, ON MANY FACETS RELATED TO, UM, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND THE RIGHT EFFECT REQUIREMENT.

AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, SMP DOESN'T DICTATE, UH, TAKING OFF ANY RIGHT-OF-WAY, UH, FROM EXISTING RESIDENCES, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS SIMPLE PROVIDES THE GUIDANCE FOR, UM, RIGHT, OR FOR PLANNING IN THE GREENFIELD, PLUS IF THERE ARE EXTENSIVE REDEVELOPMENT ON A PARTICULAR STREET, IT PROVIDES ATD AND THE CITY, UM, THE VEHICLE TO ASSESS THAT I'D RECOMMEND FOR FUTURE.

SO WHEN A NEW DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, OBVIOUSLY NEW DEVELOPMENT, UH, TRIGGERS ADDITIONAL TRIPS AS YOU KNOW, UH, ADDITIONAL NEEDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE BASED ON THEIR LAND USE INTENSITY AND THE LOCATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO ANY RIDER FOR DEDICATION REQUIREMENT OR RIGHT FOR PLANNING REQUIREMENT WOULD BE BASED ON THE IMPACT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS, IT HAS TO BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE IMPACT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND AGAIN, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION REQUIREMENT LAID OUT IN SMP.

THOSE ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO EXISTING RESIDENCES AS THEY ARE TODAY.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

CAN, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY TAKING THEN IF I DO DEVELOP MY LAND AND I'M GOING TO PUT 10 HOUSES ON IT, SO I GOING TO TRIGGER RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION.

YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY AND SAY, WELL, MY 10 EXTRA HOMES THERE IS GOING TO REQUIRE A NUMBER.

LET'S SAY IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF, UH, DID I HAVE TO PAY, BUT, BUT I'D SAY THE RIGHT OF WAY IS WORTH $200,000, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? UM, SO YES, WE CANNOT REALLY REQUIRE, UM, $200,000 WORTH OF RIGHT-OF-WAY REQUIREMENT FROM A DEVELOPMENT.

IT HAS TO BE PROPORTIONATE TO, BUT YOU CAN USE EMINENT DOMAIN THEN TO TAKE THAT RIGHT AWAY OR, OR NO.

SO, UH, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF YOUR PROCESS, WE CANNOT MAKE THE REQUIREMENT, UH, EMINENT DOMAIN.

THAT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS AND SMP IS NOT REALLY INTENDED TO TRIGGER THE PROCESS.

AGAIN, JUST GOING BACK TO THE BASIC, UM, RATIFIED EDUCATION PROCESS.

IT IS FOR FUTURE PLANNING.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE LIVING IN A STRAIGHT THAT, UH, HAVE ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TRIGGER THE RIGHT IF WE TAKE YES, IF YOU DO DEVELOP AND MAKE, UM, YOUR LOT FROM ONE OR COUPLE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, JUST A 50 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE GOING NEXT MONDAY.

WE WILL BASICALLY PRESERVE THAT WRITER FOR, FOR FUTURE AGAIN, RIGHT.

A DEDICATION DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THE PAVEMENT.

IT MAY BE FOR STREET FURNITURE LIKE STREET TREES OR, OR SIDEWALK FOR FUTURE.

SO, SO MY SECOND QUESTION IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS.

UM, AND MAYBE WE COULD JUST TAKE ONE OF THE STREETS THAT WAS MADE INTO A LEVEL TWO AND THEN WAS TAKEN BACK DOWN TO A LEVEL ONE.

AND WE CAN JUST SORT OF TAKE ME THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WHY WAS SO PAIN AVE, FOR INSTANCE, WHY WAS PAIN AVENUE DECIDED WHAT MADE THAT DECIDE TO GO FROM A ONE TO A TWO? AND THEN WHAT, WHAT NEW INFORMATION DID WE GET WITHIN THE FEEDBACK PERIOD THAT MADE IT GO BACK FROM A TWO TO A ONE? SO, UM, PAINT AVENUE IS IDENTIFIED IN THE 2014 BICYCLE PLAN FOR A RECOMMENDED FUTURE BICYCLE FACILITY.

SO WHEN LOOKING AT THE TCM, UM, THE INGREDIENTS OF THE CROSS SECTIONS, UH, LEVEL ONE STREET, UM, DOES NOT INCLUDE A SEPARATE BICYCLE FACILITY AND BICYCLES SHARE THE TRAVEL LANES WITH CARS.

UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LEVEL TWO CROSS SECTION, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A BICYCLE FACILITY ACTUALLY IN, UH, IT'S SEPARATE SPACE.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO ALIGN THE INGREDIENTS OF THE CROSS SECTION WITH WHAT'S SHOWN IN THE TCM.

UM, HOWEVER, UM, BASED ON THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED, UM, WE LOOKED AT, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR ACTUAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING.

AND SINCE THIS IS ALL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, WE KNOW THAT, UM, WE WILL NOT RECEIVE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH DEDICATION.

AND SINCE WE'RE NOT OUT THERE ACTIVELY ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY FROM SINGLE-FAMILY PROPERTIES, UM, THE DESIGNATION OF THE STREET LEVEL AND ITS RIGHT OF WAY, UM, FOR SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES, UM, DOES NOT, IS NOT A RISK FOR US.

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UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IF WE DO NEED TO IMPLEMENT BICYCLE FACILITIES, UM, THERE'LL BE IMPLEMENTED, UM, THROUGH CURRENT PRACTICES WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT, BUT I GUESS I'M JUST, I'M NOT QUITE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT IS, IS IT GOING TO BE REMOVED FROM THE BICYCLE PLAN? SO THE ADDITIONAL, UM, INFORMATION TO THAT IS THAT THE BICYCLE PLAN IS GOING THROUGH A UPDATE PROCESS RIGHT NOW THROUGH, UM, WHAT'S CALLED ATX WALK, BIKE ROLL.

SO AS A RESULT OF THAT PROCESS, UM, IT MAY BE DETERMINED WHERE BICYCLE, UM, FACILITY TYPES ARE RECOMMENDED OR NOT RECOMMENDED.

UM, SO WE'LL KNOW THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WHETHER A BICYCLE LANE IS RECOMMENDED OR IF, UH, A QUIET STREET OR NEIGHBORHOOD BIKE WOULD BE A PREFERRED, UM, RECOMMENDED FACILITY TYPE AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT PROCESS, UM, THE ACMP WILL BE AMENDED TO REFLECT THE OUTCOME OF THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER SHEA.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KEEP SPEAKING ABOUT LIKE, THIS IS REALLY FOR THE FUTURE 20 YEARS FROM NOW AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND A LOT OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN LIKE, OH MY GOSH, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW A YEAR FROM NOW, ALL THAT.

SO FOR INSTANCE, LIKE IF THERE'S A STREET THAT WAS A LEVEL ONE OUNCE LEVEL TWO OR LEVEL TWO NOW IS LEVEL THREE ON THIS PLAN, WHAT DO THEY EXPECT TO SEE IS ALL OF A SUDDEN THE SPEED LIMITS GOING TO CHANGE ON THEM, OR, I MEAN, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE MEANTIME ONCE IT'S RECLASSIFIED TO THAT, CAUSE THIS IS MORE OF AN ASPIRATIONAL CONCEPTUAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT SPEED LIMIT IS? CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS HERE TODAY WAS HE'S AFRAID THAT, I MEAN, IT'S GONE UP, BUT IT SHOULD BE DOWN LOW BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY.

IT'S NOT AT THAT POINT YET.

CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND MAYBE HELP RELIEVE SOME CONCERNS? UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, UH, THE SMP UPDATES TO THE CLASSIFICATION.

THOSE ARE NOT GOING TO ACTIVELY CHANGE THIS BUILD LIMITS SPEED LIMITS ARE BASED ON ENGINEERING STUDIES, UH, THAT WE, UH, CONDUCT FROM ATD.

SO EFFECTIVELY SMP AMENDMENTS OR THE ORDINAL S AND P THOSE ARE NOT MEANT TO DETERMINE THIS BUILD LIMITS ON A PARTICULAR STREET.

AND YES, SNP IS THE VEHICLE TO PLAN FOR FUTURE.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE TODAY TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY FOR DIFFERENT MODES, UM, AND IF THERE ARE RIGHT OR FOR NOT AVAILABLE, WE DON'T TAKE RIGHT AWAY.

WE HAVE THE TCM, UH, WE HAVE TOOLS TO PROVIDE THE CONNECTIVITY WITHIN CONSTANT CROSS SECTIONS.

OKAY.

AND IF, IF THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, WHAT IS THE PUBLIC PROCESS LIKE? IS THERE, IS THERE A, I MEAN, THEY'LL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOTIFIED.

THERE'S A CHANCE TO, TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY'S AFRAID BECAUSE OF THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN I HAVE TO GIVE UP MY LAND, BUT AM I NOT GOING TO GET TO SPEAK ABOUT IT? YOU KNOW? AND AS WE'VE SEEN WITH CODE NEXT IT'S, EVERYBODY'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, TH TH THERE'S GOTTA BE A SAY IN IT.

SO WILL THERE BE A PROCESS, UM, TO, TO CHALLENGE OR PROTEST, LIKE, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY DOWN THE STREETS DOING THIS BIG DEVELOPMENT.

NOW YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT, WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO CHIME IN, UH, EVERY PROJECT WE DO, UH, EVERY MOBILITY PROJECT WE DO FROM ATD IN THE CITY, UH, WE HAVE TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UH, AND THAT HAPPENS AT THE TIME OF PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT.

IF WE HAVE SAP PROJECT, EVERY CORRIDOR PROJECT THAT WE HAVE EVER DONE IN THE CITY, WE HAD DONE EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHERE, UM, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE AVENUE TO PROVIDE THEIR ACTIVE FEEDBACK ON AN ACTIVE PROJECT.

OKAY.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

THEN, UM, NOW THE QUESTION IS, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE OF THIS, A GREAT THING IS YOU GET A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT ABOUT CONCERNS OF WHAT'S THE STREET, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, DRIVEWAYS BACKING OUT INTO, UH, STREETS THAT ARE, MIGHT NOT BE SAFE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PUBLIC, THEY CAN MAKE A S AND P IS GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TWEAK IT OR CHANGE IT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ASPIRATIONAL.

WHAT CAN WE TELL THE PUBLIC THAT IF THEY DO HAVE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS, WHAT SHOULD THEY BE DOING TODAY? RIGHT.

CAUSE I MEAN, TWEAKING THE S AND P ISN'T GOING TO DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION.

WHAT CAN THEY BE DOING TODAY? UM, SO WE HAVE, AGAIN, LIKE WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH OUR EVEN TCM.

IT HAD BEEN OUTDATED FOR 40 YEARS.

SO THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME WE WERE ABLE TO UPDATE OUR TRANSPORTATION

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CRITERIA MANUAL, WHERE WE FOCUSED ON SAFETY AND UPGRADED ALL OF OUR DESIGN STANDARDS AFTER 40 YEARS, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT YES, WE HAVE DONE IT.

SO I BELIEVE LIKE MOVING FORWARD, UH, WE WILL SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON THOSE THINGS.

AND AGAIN, SMP IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.

SO IS TCM.

WE WILL COME BACK AGAIN, UPDATE THE TCM AS WE MOVE FORWARD, NOW THAT WE ARE ABLE TO UNTANGLE THE UPDATING PROCESS.

OKAY.

AND I HAVE 45 SECONDS.

UM, SO HOW DO YOU DETERMINE, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE FOR SAFETY OF CERTAIN STREETS, IS IT BASED UPON INCIDENTS OR ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK AT, OR IS IT ONLY BASED ON INCIDENTS OR IS THERE OTHER STUDY ASSOCIATE, THIS HAS POTENTIAL HAZARD BECAUSE I SAW THAT, THAT MAP AND I'M LIKE, HOPE YOU'RE JUST NOT WAITING FOR ACCIDENTS TO HAPPEN TO DEEM IT AS A CONCERN.

YEAH.

WE HAVE CONDUCTED EXTENSIVE STUDIES UNDER OUR VISION.

ZERO PROGRAM IS NOT ONLY BASED ON THE INCIDENCE IS BASED ON THE EXPOSURE AS WELL, WHERE WE SEE, UM, A GRID VOLUME OF PEDESTRIANS OR BICYCLISTS.

WE NEED TO FOCUS MORE ON THOSE STREETS BECAUSE THE EXPOSURE IS MORE OF WHAT THEY ARE, IS NOT SOLELY BASED ON INCIDENTS, BASED ON EXPOSURE, UH, BASED ON ALL ROAD USERS, VOLUME THAT WE SEE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

UM, THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER MOOSE TODDLER, AND THEN, OKAY.

THANK YOU GUYS.

I'M SORRY.

I'VE GOT THE DUMB QUESTIONS BECAUSE THIS STARTED BEFORE ME.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THE BACKGROUND.

SO WE'RE UPDATING, WE'RE AMENDING, AND THIS IS KIND OF PREEMPTED BECAUSE WE HAD PROJECT CONNECT COME THROUGH AND WE NEED TO RE-LOOK AT THESE CORRIDORS BECAUSE WITH PROJECT CONNECT COMING THROUGH, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THESE CORRIDORS.

SO WHAT I'M HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING IS AS WE'RE DOING THIS IS THIS WIRE, THE UPDATES IN THE AMENDMENTS INVOLVING SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS WHERE THE ORANGE LINE OR THE BLUE LINE, ISN'T GOING MAYBE OBVIOUS TO YOU, BUT IT'S NOT OBVIOUS TO ME.

I'M SORRY.

SO I'M JUST LIKE, THERE'S MORE DETAILED ENGINEERING PLANS FOR PROJECT CONNECT.

THERE'S ALSO MORE DETAILED ENGINEERING PLANS FOR THE MOBILITY BOND CORRIDORS.

SO WE'RE REFLECTING THOSE UPDATED PLANS.

UM, AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT IF DEVELOPMENT OCCURS ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS, THAT, UM, THEY PLAN FOR THAT SPACE THAT'S NEEDED FOR THOSE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, SO THAT THEIR BUILDING IS SET IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION SO THAT IT DOESN'T END UP BEING A CONDEMNATION CASE, UM, INSTEAD OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, UM, K MAKES SENSE.

BUT WHAT I CAN'T FIGURE OUT, LIKE THERE SEEMS TO BE SUCH A BIG DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THESE CORRIDORS, RIGHT? THE NEIGHBORHOODS OUGHT TO BE TUCKED AWAY AND NOT IN THE CORRIDORS.

SO I'M HAVING TROUBLE UNDER, I FEEL LIKE I'M MISSING SOMETHING OFTEN.

IT'S LIKE, WHY ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE UPSET? BUT THERE, THEY PERCEIVE THAT THERE ARE CHANGES COMING IN THEIR CORRIDORS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS.

SO WHAT AM I NOT UNDERSTANDING? I'M SORRY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, THE CONCERNS AROSE WHEN, UH, IN ROUND ONE, WE DID IDENTIFY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO RECLASSIFY LEVEL ONE STREETS TO LEVEL TWO BECAUSE THEY HAD THE INGREDIENTS IN THE ADOPTED STREET NETWORK, UM, TO ALIGN WITH THE LEVEL TWO STREET.

SO IT SAID RECOMMENDED BICYCLE FACILITY.

THEREFORE IT'S A LEVEL TWO, HOWEVER, SINCE IT'S NOT A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ISSUE ANYMORE, BECAUSE THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, THERE'S NO RISK FOR REMOVING THOSE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.

UM, SO, SO THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, ARE NO LONGER, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, I GUESS ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THERE WERE TRIGGERS THAT Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT AND WHAT WOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN SAYS, BUT I MAY BE GETTING THIS WRONG.

IT LOOKS LIKE, OKAY, IF THERE'S A PROPERTY, SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THAT PROPERTY.

THAT'S A TRIGGER.

AND THEN THERE'S THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

IS THAT ONLY FOR THAT AREA OR IS THAT EXTENDING DOWN THE STREET? CAUSE I REALLY HATE TO INDIVIDUALIZE.

AND THEN WE, I GUESS WHEN THE NEIGHBORS WAS POINTING OUT, RIGHT, WE HAVE AREAS WHERE WE CAN'T EVEN GET IT.

SO WE END UP WITH THINGS LIKE THIS.

I, AGAIN, DUMB QUESTION.

SORRY.

UH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

UM, AGAIN LIKE THAT, UH, IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS ALL OVER THE CITY, NOT ONLY ONE PARTICULAR STREET.

UM, SO AGAIN, LIKE IF THERE IS NO REDEVELOPMENT, UH, THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE AN AREA FOR DEDICATION.

AND, BUT WHEN IT, WHEN IT HAPPENS, WHEN IT TRIGGERS, IS IT JUST FOR WHATEVER THAT PROPERTY LENGTH IS THAT STREET

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FRONTAGE OR IS IT GOING TO TRIGGER A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THE STREET? CAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF IT'S ONLY FOR THAT STREET FRONTAGE, THEN YOU JUST CREATE A LOG JAM.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IT TRIGGERS THE ASSESSMENT FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION, NOT REALLY THE RIGHT WAY, DEDICATION.

IF WE DO NOT MAKE THESE AMENDMENTS, IT WILL PRECLUDE THE CITY FROM MAKING THAT ASSESSMENT.

OKAY.

SO YOU COULD HAVE ONE COME IN, YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO TRIGGER A CHANGE, BUT MAYBE THE THIRD OR THE FOURTH ONE.

SO IT IS ALLOWING YOU TO LOOK AT IT AND AGGREGATE EXACTLY.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER, AND THIS MAY JUST BE A MATTER OF, UH, BANDWIDTH AND TIME AND ENERGY, BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECT CONNECT COMING IN AND THIS FEEDBACK, AND I LOOKED AT THE TARGET ZONES THAT Y'ALL PUT UP BECAUSE I WONDERED WHY IT NEVER HIT OUR AREA, OUR HOA, OUR ORGANIZATIONS, THAT KIND OF THING.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT Y'ALL WERE DOING.

THOSE ARE THE PHYSICALLY AFFECTED AREA WHERE THESE QUARTERS ARE GOING TO GO.

BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVERY PROPERTY OWNER'S PAYING TAXES ON THIS.

SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO INPUT, EVEN THOUGH THEIR INPUT MIGHT NOT WEIGHT AS STRONGLY AS PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHT ON THE CORRIDORS, JUST MY THOUGHT FEEDBACK.

AND I'LL RELINQUISH THE REST OF MY TIME COMMISSIONERS.

UM, OH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

HEY EVERYBODY.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

I'M TRYING TO CATCH UP HERE.

SO I LIKE HOW YOU GUYS SHARE HOW THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.

AND I LOOK AT THE CITIES WHO HAVE SIMILAR DOCUMENTS TO THIS AND YOU BRING IT BACK EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS FOR UPDATES.

AND TYPICALLY THOSE SAME CITIES DO THE SAME THING FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO DO IS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IN 2019, A LOT OF THINGS WERE COINCIDING WITH A NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT WAS GOING TO LEGALIZE RESPONSIBLE LAND USE.

AND WE HAVE YET TO DO THAT HERE.

AND SO HOW IS THAT? I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOTICING THE LACK OF MENTION OF A NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THIS GO AROUND.

SO, SO HOW IS THAT AFFECTING THIS AND HOW ARE WE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE DEALING WITH BAD ZONING ALONG ALL THESE CORRIDORS? WELL, UM, I GUESS TO START, UH, THE TOOLS THAT ARE AFFORDED TO US ARE ALREADY IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, UM, NO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISION IS NEEDED TO, UM, UH, REQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION TO OCCUR AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, UM, EVERYTHING IS, IS BUSINESS AS USUAL.

UM, I WANT TO JUMP IN RIGHT THERE.

SO IF YOU TAKE A BALLOON, RIGHT, AND YOU SQUEEZE A BALLOON, IT GETS BIGGER OVER HERE.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST KEEP FINDING MORE AND MORE WAYS TO SQUEEZE THE BALLOON, BUT NOT ALLOW IT TO GET BIGGER ANYWHERE.

AND SO, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M TALKING TO PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE LOSING 20 FEET AND SOME OF THEM ALONG THE ORANGE LINE, 40 FEET, AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF HOMES THAT ARE JUST DISAPPEARING AND WE'RE NOT SEEING A NEW MECHANISMS FOR THEIR THEM TO GO TALLER OR WIDER OR FOR THEM TO MAKE UP THOSE UNIT COUNTS.

AND SO NOW WE'RE WIDENING IT FOR TRANSIT AND WE WANT TO HAVE TRANSIT SUPPORT DENSITY THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING AWAY HOMES.

AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS.

AND MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANT TO COVER A COUPLE MORE THINGS REAL QUICK.

UM, SO DO WE MENTION A VMT REDUCTION GOAL? UH, WE DO, WE DO NOT HAVE A TARGET, BUT IT IS A, A EXPRESSED INDICATOR, UM, TO SEE VMT REDUCED PER CAPITA.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN CHANGE THAT.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, DO WE HAVE AN INTERMEDIATE MODE SHARE GOAL BETWEEN NOW AND 2039 OR SOMETHING SIMILAR? UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INTERMEDIATE GOALS, UH, BUT ULTIMATELY 50 50 MODE SHARE IS THE 2039, UM, GOAL.

SO HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE'RE ON TRACK? UM, HARD TO TELL, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMENTARY WISE, YOU KNOW, DURING THE PANDEMIC WE ACCOMPLISHED OUR 50 50 MODE SHARE GOAL.

UM, WE DID IT THE WRONG WAY, BUT, UM, IT'S EVIDENCE.

IT IS EVIDENCE THAT, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE TO, UM, TO REDUCE OUR MODE SHARE.

UM, BUT WE'LL BE SEEING IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS AS INVESTMENTS COME ONLINE, UM, A SIGNIFICANT SHIFT IN, IN MODE SHARE HOPEFULLY LAST NAME FOR ME DURING YOUR PRESENTATION.

YOU MENTIONED DEPENDING ON THE VALUE OF THE LAND.

AND THEN I'M ALSO HEARING THAT WE'RE TAKING SOME AREAS OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING ALONG THEM.

UM, THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IN AUSTIN THAT IS STILL DECENTLY AFFORDABLE.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO FIND, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THERE'S A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE WELL NORTH OF A MILLION DOLLARS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE LOCATED IN VERY TRANSIT RICH AREAS.

AND SO WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF LAND OR LAND VALUE IN THOSE AREAS OR WHERE, WHERE DID THIS LAND VALUE COME IN AND WHERE WAS IT NOT COMING IN? UM, LAND VALUE

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IS PRIMARILY JUST PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CALCULATING ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY.

SO IN SOME AREAS OF TOWN, UM, 10 SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED AS PART OF A SUBDIVISION MAY, UH, WARRANT A RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION.

UM, BUT IN AREAS OF AUSTIN WHERE THE LAND VALUE IS MORE IT'LL REQUIRE, UM, MORE THAN 10 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS TO REQUIRE THAT RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION.

SO IT'S A KIND OF A MOVING VARIABLE, UM, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY IMPACTS THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT'LL, THAT'LL PASS THAT THRESHOLD OF ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND LAST THING I'LL SAY, I, THE ONE THING I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT IS JUST THE FACT THAT WHERE THIS IS NOW BEING IMPLEMENTED IN A LOT OF PLACES, IT DOES JUST SEEM THAT IT'S JUST GETTING WIDER AND WIDER AND WE'RE SCOOTING THINGS FURTHER AND FURTHER APART, LIKE THESE BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE POP UP ON CERTAIN CORRIDORS WHERE SUDDENLY THERE'S LIKE 20 OR 30 FEET IN BETWEEN IT AND THE ROAD.

AND I DON'T KNOW, I JUST WISH THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD THINK THROUGH MAYBE ROAD DIETS IMPLEMENTED WITH BIKE LANES AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE AS YOU'RE SCOOTING PLACES FOR THEM, FOR THEIR PART, WE'RE MAKING THOSE PLACES LESS WELCOMING TO PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS JUST THOUGHT, THANKS.

OKAY.

WE GOT A COUPLE MORE SPOTS, UH, COMMISSIONERS IN MORE QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER COX.

UH, I'LL GO.

AND LET ME JUST MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ONE ELSE.

UM, I HAVE, I HAVE A REALLY QUICK, SORRY, I HAVE BALCONY QUESTIONS, BUT THEY'RE NOT CLEAR.

AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE OUR TIME.

I HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION.

UM, ABOUT SOME OF THE PROPOSED ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION OR SHARED USE, UH, WITH BICYCLES AND URBAN TRAILS.

UM, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC AROUND, UM, HIGHWAYS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, MOPAC EXPRESSWAY.

AND I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT IF THE INTENTION IS TO PLACE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION OR SHARED USE PATHWAYS.

UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE, I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROTECTED BY WHAT ARE RELATIVELY NEW BARRIERS, SOUND WALLS, AND LARGE CONCRETE BARRIERS, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT, CAN YOU ALL CONFIRM, CAUSE THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT PUTTING ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION SO CLOSE IN PROXIMITY TO THE HIGHWAY, EVEN WITH THE PHYSICAL BARRIER.

HAS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION ABOUT AIR QUALITY, PARTICULAR MATTER, ANY KIND OF FLOODING, DANGERS OR OTHER ISSUES WITH THAT HAS THAT BEEN LOOKED AT? UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, UM, PROJECT DETAILS ABOUT, UM, SHARED USE PATHS OR BICYCLE FACILITIES ALONG OUR, OUR HIGHWAYS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

I'M SURE THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO CAN ANSWER LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT OFFLINE, BUT I'M GOING TO HOLD MY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR NOW.

UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE, GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, Y'ALL SORT OF WALKED US THROUGH THE TIMELINE AND EXPLAINED THAT SOME OF THE PROJECT CONNECT RELATED CHANGES WILL BE COMING WITH YOU.

CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE THAT TIMELINE AGAIN AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE WILL DOVE DEAL WITH THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY? SO, UM, WE JUST RECENTLY REVIEWED 30% DESIGN ENGINEERING PLANS.

UM, SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE, UM, EARLY ON IN THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE ESTABLISHING THAT RIGHT OF WAY FOOTPRINT.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT, UH, THE STREET NETWORK IS REFLECTING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, BUT, UH, PROJECT CONNECT HAS TO CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE NEPA PROCESS, UH, THEIR OWN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UM, TO, TO FINALIZE THOSE, THOSE DESIGN PLANS.

UM, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT PROCESS AND ENSURE THAT, UM, THE S AND P IS REFLECTIVE OF THAT, UH, FINAL OUTCOME.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I GUESS I'M REALLY TRYING TO PARTICULARLY UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE CENTER ALIGNED REAL, WHAT WILL THE SORT OF BIKE BED INFRASTRUCTURE LOOK LIKE CONNECTING IT TO THE EDGES OF THE STREET? SO THAT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, UH, STREETS, UH, CONNECTING TO THE RAIL CORRIDORS.

UM, SO, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S EITHER ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED IN OUR, UM, KIND OF SUPPORTING MULTIMODAL PLANS.

UM, BUT IT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT THROUGH THE ATX WALK BACK ROLL, UM, PLAN, UPDATE PROCESS.

UM, BUT THE IDEA IS, IS IDENTIFYING THOSE, UM, MULTIMODAL CONNECTIONS TO THE RAIL AND THEN ENSURING THAT, UM, UH, EITHER THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OR THROUGH OUR OWN PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT, UM, DOES IMPROVE FACILITIES GET IMPLEMENTED, UM,

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TO CONNECT TO THAT SERVICE IN THE FUTURE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND GOOD ONE LAST QUESTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD SOME CONCERNS AROUND SORT OF EXPANDING THE RIGHT OF WHEN THE IMPACT THAT IT MIGHT HAVE ON EROSION OR HOW, YOU KNOW, DRAIN SORT OF CONNECTS WITH THAT.

SO I GUESS AT THE DIME OF THAT, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, HOW ARE THINGS LIKE DRAIN OR SLOPE OR, UM, EROSION ISSUES HANDLED? UM, SO AT THE TIME OF, UH, RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION, WE DON'T REALLY GO INTO THE ENGINEERING DETAILS AGAIN, LIKE IF THERE IS A PROJECT TO REALLY USE THAT DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY, UH, TO DO A MOBILITY PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF ENGINEERING STUDIES, UM, ALL THE DETAILED STUDIES PLUS A HUGE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AT THAT POINT.

SO THOSE ARE DONE AT THE TIME OF PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT PHASE.

GREAT.

SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS HANDLED.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ASSESSING BEFORE MAKING ANY CHANGES, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS HANDLED SORT OF LATER DOWN THE ROAD.

EXACTLY.

COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS.

OKAY.

I WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE THEM.

I THINK COMMISSIONER COX, UM, I KNOW YOU ALREADY ASKED THE QUESTION, BUT I WANT ALLOW YOU MORE TIMES.

AND THEN I HAD A FEW MYSELF.

SO JUST LOOKING AT, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR HELPFUL? YES.

I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND TIME OR ALMOST A 10.

OH, THANK YOU.

YES, WE NEED TO DO THAT THEN.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S SAY, OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS GOT A SECOND.

THE COMMISSIONER COX.

IT'S GON A BOAT.

UH, THAT'S ON THE DYES.

IT'S 11.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

WE'VE GOT, UM, OKAY.

THAT'S ON THE SCREEN REAL QUICK.

I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR VOTES.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY VIRTUALLY AND COMMISSIONER.

SO THAT'S A VOTING.

NO.

IS COMMISSIONER ARE MR. MITCHELL TALLER AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON HAS YOUR BOAT? YES.

OKAY.

SO THE NATIVES ARE COMMISSIONERS, OUR COMMISSIONER MITCH TALLER.

ALRIGHT.

AND I'M TRYING TO COUNT, I THINK WE'RE MISSING SOME PHONES.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT PASSES, SO WE'LL GO TO 11.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO WHAT I WANT TO ENTERTAIN IS HOW, HOW MANY COMMISSIONERS, WHO ELSE SAYS QUESTIONS? MAYBE PERMISSION.

OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET, UH, WE'VE ASKED EIGHT.

UM, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE FULL 13 IF WE NEED THEM.

SO WE'LL JUST 13 SPOTS.

UH, ARE THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO ALLOWING 13 SPOTS AT THIS POINT? OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD.

I WILL OPPOSE THAT IN THE SENSE THAT I THINK ONLY IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I DON'T WANT TO BE GOING THROUGH THE QUESTIONS CAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO GO TO A ROUND OF AMENDMENTS AND WE REALLY NEED TO SAVE MENTAL CAPACITY FOR ACTUAL AMENDMENTS.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ALL OF OUR TIME ON QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S KEEP THEM BRIEF IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO LET'S GO AND MOVE FORWARD, BUT LET'S, LET'S TRY TO BE QUICK.

OKAY.

UH, LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER YONIS, POLITO, AND THEN COMMISSIONER COX, AND THEN WE'LL DO, UH, CHAIR COHEN AND THEN I'LL CLOSE IT OUT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, I'LL KEEP IT QUICK.

IT IS A QUESTION I WANT TO KNOW AND HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT REDUNDANT THESE, I JUST, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT CERTAIN, UM, CERTAIN STREETS BEING LISTED AS LEVEL TWO IN CERTAIN PLACES OR LEVEL ONE, UM, OR DEPENDING ON THEIR ADOPTED STREET LEVEL.

AND SO CAN STAFF JUST CLARIFY WHEN IF NEIGHBORS ARE, IF, IF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC ARE LOOKING AT THIS AT THE LAYERS, UM, THAT THEY'VE ENGAGED WITH ON THE MAP, UM, IF THERE'S A CONTRADICTION BETWEEN A STORY MAP OR AN ADOPTED STREET LEVEL, UM, IN THE STREET NETWORK AMENDMENTS TABLE, WHAT SHOULD THEY BE REFERRING TO OR WHAT IS, WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE MOST CURRENT OR IS THERE A MORE CLEAR WAY FOR THEM TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE TWO? SO THERE, THERE IS A FINAL, UM, STREET NETWORK MAP THAT WAS, UH, PRESENTED IN THE FINAL, UM, STORY MAP PRESENTATION.

UM, THE STREET NETWORK MAP THAT'S IN THERE REFLECTS THE PROPOSED AMENDED STREET LEVEL.

UM, THERE'S ALSO A PDF MAP SERIES, UM, THAT REFLECTS THE SAME, UM, INPUT, UM, BUT IN A PRINTABLE PDF FORMAT,

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UM, THERE'S ALSO A, UH, PDF TABLE THAT, UH, INCLUDES THE ATTRIBUTES, UM, OF THE, UH, AMENDED STREET LEVEL, UM, AND, AND ATTRIBUTES OF THE STREET NETWORK.

SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS NOW ONLINE ON THE S AND P WEBSITE.

UM, AND THEY'RE STILL REFERENCED TO THE ROUND ONE AND ROUND TWO, UM, PROPOSED STREET NETWORKS.

UM, BUT THE ONE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED AS THE FINAL DRAFT IS THE ONE, UH, BEING, UH, UH, PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

AND JUST TO REITERATE, THAT'S THE FINAL STREET NETWORK MAP OR FINAL PROPOSED STATE LEVEL, RIGHT? FINAL DRAFT STREET NETWORK.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COX.

ALL RIGHT.

I, I HAD A REAL QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF THAT EVERYONE WOULD PROBABLY THINK IS STUPID, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT DRIVES ME CRAZY ARE Y'ALL DO Y'ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD HYPERLINKS IN YOUR GIS MAP TO THE ACTUAL CROSS-SECTIONS THAT YOU, THAT YOU SHOW IN THE ASM P AMENDMENT DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED RELATED TO THE UPDATED TCM LEVELS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CAN DO? I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, UH, A PRETTY GOOD UPGRADE, UH, TO INCLUDE REFERENCE TO THE, UH, TCM CROSS SECTION.

UM, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

I, THAT I AM WELL-VERSED IN THE BISON TEAM REGULATIONS AND LINKS AND STUFF ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN, A WEBSITE, BUT IT JUST TOOK ME FOREVER TO GET ONE TAB WITH THE CROSS SECTIONS AND ONE TAB WITH THE GIS.

SO THE HYPERLINKS WOULD BE AWESOME.

THAT'S ALL I GOT NEXT.

OKAY.

UH, SHARE CON UH, VERY BRIEFLY JUST TO TOUCH BACK ON, UH, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER'S OURS QUESTION ON PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

COULD YOU JUST, IN A NUTSHELL, TELL ME HOW YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC RESULTS WERE OBTAINED ON ROUND TWO.

SO WE DO INCLUDE, UM, A STANDARD LIST OF DEMOGRAPHIC, UH, OPTIONAL QUESTIONS, UM, WITHIN OUR FEEDBACK FORMS. UM, SO, UH, DEPENDING ON, UH, UH, WHO, UH, DECIDES TO TAKE THE FORM AND FILL OUT THE RESPONSES, UH, THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

SO IF I NOTICED SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THERE, BUT ISN'T, WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS TO LET Y'ALL KNOW, PLEASE, PLEASE DO.

UM, I'M SORRY, GUYS.

I JUST, I KNOW ME AND A FRIEND OF MINE BOTH FILLED THAT OUT AND THERE SHOULD BE TWO OTHER GENDERS ON THERE AND THERE AREN'T.

OKAY.

SO WHAT ELSE GOT MISSED? YEAH, THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK.

UM, CERTAINLY PROVIDED DIRECTLY TO ME, UM, OR VIA OUR AND P AT AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV EMAIL ADDRESS.

OKAY.

AND, BUT THERE ARE PLANS FOR FUTURE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, NOT NECESSARILY AROUND THREE FOR THIS PART, BUT ONCE IT GETS INTO DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY.

UM, IF FUTURE ASN P AMENDMENT CYCLES, AS WELL AS, UM, AFTER THE ACMP IS DONE THROUGH PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES AND OTHER SMALL AREA PLANNING EFFORTS, IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME TO WAIT, BUT, OKAY.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

MINE WILL BE, UH, FAIRLY QUICK.

SO THE 0.7%, I THINK THAT WENT FROM ONE TO TWO.

UH, I DIDN'T SEE A NUMBER ON THERE.

I THINK YOU DID HAVE A TABLE.

HOW MANY STREETS DOES THAT REPRESENT THAT WERE MOVED FROM LEVEL ONE TO LEVEL TWO? JUST TRYING TO GET A, I GOT THE PERCENT I'M KIND OF INTERESTED IN THE NUMBER OF STREETS IF IT, IF YOU CAN FIND IT QUICKLY.

YEAH.

THE STREETS THAT ARE, UH, WERE ADOPTED AS LEVEL ONE AND ARE, UM, BEING PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED TO LEVEL TWO IS ABOUT 44,000 LINEAR FEET OF STREETS, OR 215 BLOCKS SEGMENTS.

AND THAT'S 0.7% OF THE STREET OUTWORK.

OH, I SEE.

IT'S NOT.

I SEE.

UM, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THE BASIS.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN ON THE DATA TRACKING, UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON'S COMMENT ABOUT HOW LONG AGO, IF WE GET THERE, YOU, YOU GUYS ARE, WE ARE TRACKING OUR PROGRESS EITHER EVERY OTHER YEAR.

I MEAN, THERE IS SOME INTERMEDIATE MEASUREMENT OF HOW WE'RE DOING.

CORRECT.

RIGHT.

UM, SO THE, UH, THE MODE SHARE GOAL IS ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC DIRECTION, UM, UH, PRIMARY INDICATORS.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE MEASURE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND REPORT GENERALLY WE USE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, UM, CENSUS, UH, TO REPORT ON THAT.

AND IT'S A, FIVE-YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE.

SO IT'S A LAGGING INDICATOR.

SO AT THIS POINT IT REALLY DOESN'T CAPTURE THE TRENDS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

UM, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL DATA SETS

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TO TRY TO TRY TO CAPTURE KIND OF IN REAL TIME.

UM, THOSE MODE SHARE, UH, SHIFTS.

UM, SO CHAIR, IN RELATION TO THAT, WE ALSO INCLUDED A BIG SECTION IN OUR NEW TCM, UM, FOCUSING ON THE TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT, BECAUSE BEFORE IN THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL, WE DIDN'T HAVE A SECTION.

SO ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME IN, WE ARE REALLY ON THE ALTERNATE MODES, NOT THE VEHICLE ATROPIC.

SO THAT'S A BIG CHANGE IN OUR NEW TCM.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THOSE ARE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.

I THINK THAT SAID THEY HAD QUESTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND WRAP UP THE Q AND A AND, UH, MOVE MR. THOMPSON.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE, MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, GET THE, UH, BASE MOTION.

UM, BASE MOTION IS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT A SECOND BY CONVINCER.

UH, LET'S GO AND VOTE ON THAT BASE MOTION AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF WE GOT ANY, UM, AMENDMENTS.

NO, YOU CAN'T PUT ON THE BASIS MOTION.

SURE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO ONE ON THE AMENDMENTS AND THEN CLOSE OUT THE BASE MOTION THAT THE THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I THINK LAST TIME WE DIDN'T.

OKAY.

NEVERMIND.

GO AHEAD.

LET'S LET, SO THE BASE MOTION REITERATE ONE MORE TIME.

YOU GOT A SECOND.

LET'S GO AND MAKE IT CLEAR.

SO IT IS STAFF, RIGHT.

AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, I, THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS ABOUT THE, UM, THE S AND P THAT FRUSTRATE ME, BUT I FEEL IT'S NOT THE ASM P ITSELF.

AND I, I THINK WE HAD SOME OF THE SAME COMMENTS ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL, WHICH I FEEL IS LIKE THE BUILDING BLOCKS THE AMP IS CREATED FROM.

AND I FEEL THAT THE, THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL IS SIGNIFICANTLY LACKING AND IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LACKING IN THE SENSE OF IT.

IT SETS ALL THE STREETS, ALL THE, THE MOBILITY BASED ON CARS AND, AND CAR LANES AND THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC.

AND THEN THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL.

IF YOU WANT A STREET TO HAVE WIDER SIDEWALKS, YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT FROM A LEVEL ONE STREET TO A LEVEL TWO STREET.

AND I THINK WHEN THOSE ARE THE BUILDING BLOCKS THAT YOU'RE BUILDING YOUR PLAN FROM, AND YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD A BICYCLE, YOU KNOW, ROUTES THROUGH A CITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE BICYCLE PLAN SAYS THAT HAVE THEIR ROUTES.

AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IS TO RAISE THE LEVEL OF THE STREET.

YOU GET THE KIND OF, OF FRUSTRATION THAT THE CITY IS SEEN AND THAT RESIDENTS ARE FEELING.

AND SO NOW WE'RE SORT OF STUCK WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO PEEL BACK THE BICYCLE PATHS THAT WE THINK ARE PROPER FROM THE STREETS, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE LEVEL TWO STREETS AND THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND, AND THAT JUST SEEMS WRONG.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A MOVEMENT EMOTION TO MIGHT, BUT I THINK IT'S MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, WHEN THE TCM PASSED, WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL BUILDING BLOCKS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND SORT OF MAYBE HAVE THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL AGENDA ITEM ON A DIFFERENT DAY WHERE WE TALK, YOU KNOW, AND SORT OF MAYBE SEND THAT TO CODES AND ORDINANCES TO MAKE THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN HAPPEN.

UM, SO WE DON'T GET BACK HERE AGAIN, TWO YEARS FROM NOW WITH THE NEXT, UH, UH, UPDATES.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, WE DID, UH, WANT TO THANK YOU FOR KIND OF THE WORKING GROUP THAT YOU'VE, UM, BOTH ON THE TCM AND ON THIS ASAP.

AND, UH, I'M SURE, UM, THERE'LL BE CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

UH, SO WE HAVE A BASE MOTION, SO I'M GOING TO GO, UM, LET'S JUST WHICH I'M TRYING TO KEEP THIS ORDERLY, BUT I KNOW TIMING, SOMETIMES WE BUILD OUT EACH OTHER.

DO, LET ME JUST SEE, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE, UH, AN AMENDMENT? UM, I'M JUST GOING TO OPEN IT UP RIGHT NOW.

UM, UH, IS, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN AMENDMENT? SO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP US IN ORDER, THEN WE WILL GO ALPHABETICAL, I THINK, OR CLOSE TO THAT.

UM, SO GO AHEAD AND START.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I WISH I COULD MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO LEGALIZE A TON OF HOUSING ON THESE CORRIDORS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE POSTED FOR THAT.

SO I'M IN OUTLOOK, THE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, HOW TO PHRASE THIS BEST, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO ADD AN AMENDMENT THAT'S JUST, UM, ADDING A VEHICLE MILES, TRAVELED REDUCTION GOAL.

THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT? KIND OF ASKING YOU RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS BETTER THAN ME, THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

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I'D LOVE TO ADD, I GUESS, AS A GOAL, UM, ADD A VEHICLE MILES REDUCTION GOAL TO THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN.

I'M KIND OF SURPRISED IT'S NOT IN THE ALREADY, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

UM, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? I REALLY FEEL IT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE WANT MODE SHIFT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOALS OF REDUCING VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY'S DRIVING AROUND IN SINGLE OCCUPANT VEHICLES AND WE'RE BUILDING A CITY FOR SINGLE OCCUPANT VEHICLES, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, UP AND DOWN OUR ORANGE LINE, WE HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ALONG THIS AMAZING $10 BILLION TRANSIT INVESTMENT.

WE REQUIRE YOU TO BUILD PARKING.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE WANT THAT TO BE TOO SUCCESSFUL.

AND SO A GOAL LIKE THIS MIGHT HELP US HAVE OTHER BETTER POLICIES.

THAT'LL FOLLOW.

OKAY.

UM, ANYONE WANT TO S UH, SPEAK AGAINST THIS MOTION? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MOTION MAKER.

OKAY.

IS IT, IS IT V IS, ARE WE CONSIDERING VMT AS A PER CAPITA FIGURE? MY GUESS IS YES.

MY, MY HOPE IS STAFF WOULD FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS.

OKAY.

IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS OPEN WELL, PER CAPITA WOULD MAKE SENSE IF IT'S JUST VMT GENERAL, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING SO FAST.

I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE TALKING PER CAPITA.

OKAY.

UM, THE SPEAKING, ANY MORE SEEKING FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ANY OBJECTIONS, GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE BOAT.

UM, LET ME START WITH THOSE ON THE DIOCESE, UH, IN FAVOR.

I THINK THAT'S EVERYONE DOES, UH, VIRTUALLY ON THE SCREEN, UM, IN FAVOR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, UH, AND THOSE AGAINST ON THE SCREEN AND THOSE UPS STAINING.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, UH, COMMISSIONER JADA'S PLATE, WE KNOW, UH, ABSTAINING, BUT THAT PASSES.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, LET'S GO AND JUST KEEP IT IN ORDER THEN.

UH, NEXT IT'S COMMISSIONER IT'S ARE GOING NOW, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT? JARED DO NOT HAVE A AMENDMENT, BUT I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY MENTION ONE THING, WHICH IS TO SAY, I REALLY WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR WORK FROM THE FOREST SORT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BEAST, THE SECOND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE, AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE GREETED ON MAKING THE ONLINE DUAL UNDERSTANDING ALL THE DIFFERENT GUARD DOORS.

I KNOW THAT THAT INFORMATION, THE WAY IT WAS TRANSLATED WAS REALLY HELPFUL.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

OKAY.

WELL, IN ORDER TO HEAR A COMMISSIONER COX, YOU HAVE ANY INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER FLORES, ANYTHING.

OKAY.

UH, CONDITIONAL, UH, VICE-CHAIR HEMPHILL.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER, UH, HOWARD, IF YOU'RE THERE, WE CAN COME BACK.

ALL RIGHT.

OFF THE DIES, UH, COMMISSIONER MOOSH, TODDLER.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER PRACTICES.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER YANAS PALITO.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD.

AND, UH, YEAH.

UH, COMMISSIONER SHAY AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

ALL RIGHT.

AND, UH, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER ANYTHING? OKAY.

JUST SHARE COHEN PASSES.

UM, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER HOWARD YOU'RE BACK.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER? OKAY, SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH ONE ROUND.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED A SECOND ROUND.

I THINK WE'VE GOT THE ONE AMENDMENT WE PASSED IT.

SO, UM, UH, DO WE DO NEED A FINAL VOTE THOUGH? YES.

UH, SO IT WOULD BE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE AMENDMENT, UH, TO INCLUDE A VMT REDUCTION GOAL.

I HAVE A NOTE, UM, STAFF TO DETERMINE IT THAT SHOULD BE FOR CAPITA OR NOT.

UM, AND ADD THAT TO THE A S M P.

AND THAT WAS A, UM, THAT WAS BY COMMISSION I'M SURE.

ANDERSON SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

UM, AND THE MAIN AMENDMENT.

UM, YEAH, MAIN MOTION WAS COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED BY MR. HUIZAR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO AND TAKE A VOTE.

UH, GO AHEAD.

UH, VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.

SO IT'S A REDUCTION IN VEHICLE

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MILES TRAVELED, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER IT THAT'S PER CAPITA OR NOT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE, UH, VOTES IN FAVOR ON THE DAYAS I'LL CAMPUS FIRST.

UH THAT'S EVERYONE AND OKAY.

THOSE VIRTUALLY, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

SO THAT IS, THAT PASSES YOU WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND COUNT WITH, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, HONESTLY THAT HAS NOT VOTED.

OH, SHE, SHE DID GREEN.

SO WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

SO THAT'S A EVERYONE'S HERE.

THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WE CLEARED THAT ONE ITEM OFF A PREACH, AND I WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS ARE THANK YOU SO MUCH STAFF.

THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK.

UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS OUT THERE AND, UH, GOOD LUCK WITH, UH, MOVING IT ONTO COUNCIL.

UM,

[C. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

OKAY.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA.

WE'VE GOT TEACHER AGENDA ITEMS, I BELIEVE.

AND THERE'S ONE.

I HAVE THAT I'LL GO AHEAD AND BRING UP FIRST AND, UH, LET'S SEE, UH, WANT TO ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF IN AUGUST HAVING USING THAT FIFTH, TUESDAY, UM, A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS HAVE ASKED FOR S UH, STAFF PRESENTATIONS, AND, UM, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET A REQUEST FROM MR. RIVERA TO KIND OF FRAME THAT REQUEST.

WE'VE GOT IT DOCUMENTED.

UH, I THINK THERE WAS ONE FROM, UM, REGARDING, UH, NOTICING REQUIREMENTS, UH, COMMISSIONER YANNIS, PALITO, UH, AND COMMISSIONER PRAXIS, UH, ASKED FOR.

SO THAT WOULD KIND OF BE ON THIS AGENDA.

AND THEN THE SECOND, I THINK COMMISSIONER COX, YOU HAD ONE IDENTIFIED REGARDING, UH, CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ABOUT THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC.

UH, BUT WE HAD ALSO ENTERTAINED BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, UH, SOONER, HOPEFULLY IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE WANT STAFF TO GIVE US, UH, PRESENTATIONS ON.

SO THIS WOULD BE MAINLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO DECLARE A PLATES OF CASES AND HEAR FROM WHERE WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF TIME FOR THESE KINDS OF PRESENTATIONS.

SO THIS WOULD BE AUGUST 30TH, THAT WOULD BE THE FIFTH TUESDAY.

SO I WOULD LIKE, UM, UH, FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT, UH, DO WE, WOULD WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR A VOTE NEXT TIME? SO THE CHAIR CAN CALL THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AND THEN WHAT I CAN DO IS, UM, SEND OUT A, UH, ATTENDANCE POLL.

OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO GO AND DO THAT AND WE'LL SEE IF, UM, SEE WHAT KIND OF VACATION SCHEDULE PEOPLE HAVE THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FUTURE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE, UM, SURE HAD I HAD MADE THIS REQUEST QUITE A WHILE BACK, AND I KNOW STAFF HAD SAID THAT THEY WOULD COME BACK TO ME OR US, UM, ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, LOOKING AT OUR HISTORIC ZONING, SORT OF THE TAXATION IMPACT EFFECT.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE OVERALL VERSUS LOCKED WISE? AND JUST A LITTLE MORE CONVERSATION ON THAT.

I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ON THAT.

I KNOW WE, I HAD REQUESTED THAT QUITE A WHILE BACK.

OKAY.

UM, AND I HAVE ONE OUTSTANDING.

I JUST NEEDED A STATUS REPORT ON THE, UH, REDUCED SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED, STILL WAITING FOR AN UPDATE.

HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING YET.

SO, UH, IF WE DON'T GET ANYTHING BY AUGUST 30TH, HOPEFULLY WE DO I'LL.

MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMETHING FROM STAFF ON A STATUS AS WELL ON THAT.

UM, ANYWAY, SO BE THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT AN UPDATE FROM STAFF ON, AND WE'LL USE THAT TIME FOR THAT.

UM, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS I FINISHED HER ANDERSON, MAYBE WE CAN THINK OF SOMETHING BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING TO ADD TO THAT AGENDA, BUT I THINK IT'D BE REALLY GOOD IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT A COUPLE OF WAYS TO THINK THROUGH HOW WE CAN GET MORE HOPE AS FAR AS GETTING A LOT MORE HOUSING CAPACITY.

I MEAN, IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO PROVIDE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NEW HOUSING IN THE CITY AND THOSE THINGS FOR DIFFERENT REASONS HAVE FAILED.

AND NOW WE'RE FEELING THE RESULTS MORE AND MORE BY THE DAY.

UM, MY, AND MY DAY JOB, WE'RE BUILDING 30 HOMES WITH AUSTIN HABITAT, OR SORRY WITH, UH, AISD AUSTIN, INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT 30 HOMES IN THE LAST FOUR DAYS, WE'VE HAD A THOUSAND SCHOOL TEACHERS IN AISD FACULTY REACH OUT FOR 30 HOMES, YOU KNOW, AND SO THERE'S THIS PEOPLE THAT WE ARE DESPERATE TO TRY AND KEEP IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE DOING A VERY BAD JOB OF DOING IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE HOUSING WE NEED.

AND SO THERE'S GOTTA BE WAYS THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES THAT WE NOW HAVE ON HOW TO PRODUCE A LOT MORE HOUSING IN THE CITY.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN THINK OF SOME THINGS TO TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT

[04:00:01]

COUPLE OF WEEKS AND ADD TO THAT AGENDA, I THINK, UH, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

WE, WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, UH, PUT TOGETHER, WORK IN GROUPS AND, UH, IF NEEDED TO TACKLE A CERTAIN ISSUES.

AND THEN ALSO OUR CODES, NORNS THIS GROUP.

WE CAN MOVE CERTAIN THINGS TO THEM AS WELL.

SO, UH, ALL IDEAS ARE WELCOME, UH, TO, TO DO THAT.

UM, AND WITH THAT, ANY OTHER ITEMS ON, UH, C BEFORE WE MOVE ON AND DO UPDATES, OKAY, LET'S QUICKLY GO THROUGH THIS.

SO WE'D GET OUT OF HERE.

UM,

[D. BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES]

UNDER D UH, CODE IS ORANGE TO THE JOINT COMMITTEE.

UM, SOMEBODY WANT TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.

CONCERNS ARE, UM, STRETCHER.

WE HAD DO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA.

I THINK ONE WAS THE, UM, UNRELATED TO THE CORRIDORS THAT WE PASSED TODAY.

AND THE OTHER ITEM WAS, UM, RELATED TO TRYING TO REMEMBER FOLKS HELP ME OUT HERE, VICE CHAIR.

DO YOU, UM, THANK YOU.

IT WAS, IT WAS THE SALTZMAN OF OUR FUND REGULATING PLAN, WHICH WE INITIATED AND IT WILL BE COMING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO US EVENTUALLY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, JOINT COMMITTEE, COMMISSIONER FLORES.

DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE? YES.

UM, WE DID MEET ON APRIL 28TH AND WE GOT THE S AND P UH, BRIEFING AT THAT MEETING.

AND OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON JUNE 9TH.

UM, AND WE HAVE A REQUEST, UM, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER TO DISCUSS THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING STUDY.

OH, GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, ANY ACTIVITY THERE? COMMISSIONER PRACTICES? UM, NO, WE WERE CANCELED DUE TO LACK OF FORUM, UM, LAST MONTH, BUT WE HAVE ONE COMING UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

A SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.

UH, WE HAD A MEETING WAY BACK, BUT I THINK, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY REVIEWED THE CASE THAT WE REVIEWED.

OKAY.

SO NOTHING RECENTLY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND LASTLY, UH, SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD, MR. TOMMY, WE ALSO SAW THE REGULATING PLAN, UM, AN UPDATE ON THAT, UM, AND AN UPDATE ON THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

OKAY.

AND I THINK THERE'S MORE TO COME FOR YOU ALL ON THAT.

UH, OKAY.

AND THEN MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP JUST WANT TO, WE DID.

AND SO FOR THAT GROUP, JUST QUICK QUESTION, ARE WE, DO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT OPEN OR IS THAT, IT'S THE KIND OF SCOPE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS NEEDED TO BE KEPT IN PLACE FOR DONE? I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CLOSE A SOUTH IF WE'RE FINISHED OR CLOSE IT OUT.

OKAY.

SO, AND I'M SORRY IF I COULD SUGGEST, I THINK WE KEEP IT OPEN FOR A WHILE.

WE WILL BE SEEING SOME AMENDMENTS AND THINGS COMING DOWN, THE PIPELINE RUN, PROJECT CONNECT.

I THINK SOME OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE WRAPPED UP AND MIGHT JUST BE THAT WE HAVE TO PICK UP.

IT MIGHT JUST REMAIN AS A SORT OF WORKING GROUP FOR A WHILE, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUOUSLY GO THROUGH MEETINGS AND WORK, BUT AS THINGS POP UP, WE CAN TAKE IT UP.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

LET'S UH, LET'S HAVE, UH, MAYBE I'LL TALK TO BOTH OF YOU ABOUT RETIRING THIS ONE AND MAYBE HAVING A NEW ONE THAT'S FOCUSED ON THAT.

EXACTLY.

CAUSE WE MAY WANT TO RESHUFFLE THE MEMBERS.

PEOPLE MAY WANT TO THAT.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

SO FUTURE STUFF.

I MEAN, I KNOW YOU HAD ASKED EARLIER, BUT I MEAN, I WAS JUST KINDA GOING THROUGH MY HEAD AND I, UH, WAS IN THE SAME LINEMEN WITH COMMISSIONER ANDERSON ABOUT, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS TO GET MORE HOUSING.

AND A LOT OF THAT FELL ON THE WAYSIDE.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GO IN WITH CODE.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS OUT THERE THAT CAN BE DONE THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO PIECEMEAL IT.

SO BE IT.

BUT WE COULD CREATE A WORKING GROUP TO KIND OF REASSEMBLE SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS AND BRING IT BACK.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN ME IN THIS AND KIND OF REEVALUATE KIND, KINDA DIG THROUGH OUR LITTLE BUCKET OF STUFF AND BRING IT BACK UP, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST SITTING STAGNATING ALL THESE IDEAS.

OH, WHAT? I HAVE JUST SOME COCK PROCESS QUESTIONS.

SO IF WE HAVE GROUPS LIKE THIS, WE DO THINGS, WE BRING UP IDEAS.

HOW DO THEY, HOW DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO CHANGE? POLICY WAS KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, BRING IT UP AND CODES AND ORDINANCES, CHERISH.

TALK ABOUT A DIFFERENT ITEM.

SO WHEN WE COME UP WITH CERTAIN IDEAS AND IF THE IDEAS SEEMED LIKE THERE'S SOME FEASIBLE PIECES THAT COULD TURN INTO CODE A, WE COULD TURN THE DIALS AND CODE, THEN WE CAN SEND IT TO CODES AND ORDINANCES FOR FURTHER REVIEW BASED UPON LET'S SEE WHAT THE WORKING GROUP FOUND OUT.

I MEAN, WHO KNOWS? WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT 20, BUT ONLY.

SO WE SEND SOMETHING TO CODES AND ORDINANCES AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

AND IT COULD GO TO A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO US.

[04:05:01]

AND THEN WE AS A COMMISSION, PUSH IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL AS POTENTIAL NEW POLICY MIGHT ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION, MR. VERA, PLEASE REMIND ME.

I THINK ACTUALLY BC CAN, UH, INITIATE A CODE AMENDMENT HERE WITHOUT IT FIRST COMING FROM CODES AND ORDINANCES.

AM I RIGHT? CHAR COMMISSION-WISE ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF IT.

THE QUESTION IS, UM, WHO MAY INITIATE A CODE AMENDMENT COUNCIL OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE THE ONLY ENTITIES THAT CAN INITIATE A CODE AMENDMENT.

RIGHT? SO THE CODE CODES AND ORDINANCES IS A FORUM THAT ALLOWS IT TO BE FURTHER EVALUATED AND DISCUSSED, BUT IT COMES BACK TO US AS A RECOMMENDATION.

NO, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THAT'S RIGHT.

A RECOMMENDATION.

WE CAN, WE CAN ENACT IT UNDER STATE CODE OR NO.

NO.

OKAY.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN ENACT.

WE JUST INITIATE.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

IF I MIGHT SPEAK OF MR. VERA, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

SO EITHER COUNSELOR BC CAN INITIATE A GOOD AMENDMENT.

ONCE IT HAS BEEN INITIATED, IT GOES TO STAFF TO WORK ON.

WE CAN WORK WITH THEM AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK AND THEN GOES BACK TO CODES AND ORDINANCES THEN TO BC AND THEN TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL GRADES.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO STAFF GETS A STAB AT TAKING LAW RECOMMENDATION AND TURNING INTO SOMETHING AND COMING BACK AND DOING THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK, THERE'S ALSO A PUBLIC PROCESS THAT IT, THAT IT PRETTY MUCH ALL WE'RE DOING IS INITIATING SOMETHING.

ONCE IT GOES TO IT DOES COME BACK AS AN OFFICIAL THING THAT SEES ON OUR AGENDA WITH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE PUBLIC PROCESS TO GET IT ADOPTED BEFORE IT GOES BACK UP TO COUNCIL.

BUT INITIATION OF IT IS, IS ONE THING.

THEN EVERYBODY HAS TO FIGURE IT OUT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, COMMISSIONER SHEA IS YOUR WISH TO GET THIS KIND OF, TO THE NEXT MEETING TOGETHER.

SO YOU FORM A WORKING GROUP, IS THAT YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO IT HERE, BUT WE COULD GO AND PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.

MAYBE PEOPLE CAN THINK ABOUT IT AND SUCH, BUT I MEAN, SO DO WE NEED TO, WHAT, HOW DO WE NEED TO DEFINE THE SCOPE FOR THE WORKING GROUP NOW? CAN WE KEEP IT PRETTY HIGH LEVEL AND THEN DEFINE IT MORE? THE NEXT MEETING? I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT WE NEED TO KIND OF MAKE IT CLEAR.

JARED COMMISSION LIAISON.

ANDREW.

I CAN CONFER WITH COMMISSIONERS, SAY, UH, CRAFT THE, UH, TASK FOR THE WORKING GROUP AND WE'LL PLACE THE, UH, CREATION OF THE WORKING GROUP IN APPOINT THE MEMBERS AT THE FOLLOWING.

OKAY.

UM, I WOULD, UH, ONE, I THINK I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, UH, JUST OTHERS ABOUT ON THE SAME LINE.

I MEAN, BASICALLY INCREASING HOUSING IS, IS, WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IS THAT KIND OF IS A FOCUS AND HOW WE DO THAT.

YEAH, IT IS.

THERE ARE, AND THERE ARE WAYS THERE TO ME THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

THAT'S A LOW-HANGING FRUIT THAT WE CAN TWEAK SOME KNOBS.

AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S A LARGER SCALE STUFF AND THERE'S A SIMPLE STUFF.

AND THEN THERE'S THE ONES THAT I THINK REQUIRE A LOT OF WORK, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING BACK AND AT LEAST KIND OF SEE IF THERE ARE SIMPLE THINGS THAT WE CAN TWEAK.

OKAY.

AND, UH, LET'S, I'M GOING TO OFFER THIS IF IT'S A BIG THING AND WE CAN BREAK IT UP, THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE TO WORK IN GROUPS.

SO LET'S TALK.

I MEAN, WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE IT HUGE AND CAN MAKE, BREAK IT UP AND HAVE A COUPLE OF GROUPS WORKING ON DIFFERENT THINGS IF NEEDED.

OKAY.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE.

IT IS, UM, IF I CAN ASK FOR A ONE MORE TASK OF VOTING ON A SUBSTITUTE, A SECRETARY TO SIGN PLOTS THIS EVENING.

OH YES.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK, ALL RIGHT.

LET'S VOTE.

ALL RIGHT.

VOTE IN FAVOR.

UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SIGNING THE PLANTS THIS EVENING.

ALL RIGHT.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

OH, OKAY.

ARE YOU HE VOTED? YES.

I THINK YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF IT NOW.

OH YEAH.

UH, SO IT IS 10 23.

UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONING IS ADJOURNED, UM, AND ALL OR NOTHING.

MOVE IT AROUND IN THE FIELD CALLED