* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:04] LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET GOING. HELLO EVERYONE. THIS IS NEHEMIAH PITS, THE THIRD CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. CALLING TO ORDER A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING HERE, WEDNESDAY, MAY 11TH. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A ROLL CALL AND, UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS AGAIN HERE IN THE ROOM, AND THEN I'LL PIVOT TO THE PEOPLE ONLINE FOR CONFIRMATION. SO I'M GOING TO BEGIN DOWN HERE, SET TO MY FAR LEFT WITH, UH, COUNSEL, EXCUSE ME. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON BEAVERS. HI, I'M NICOLE THOMPSON AND I AM REPRESENTING DISTRICT NINE. STEVEN REPRESENTING DISTRICT TWO, MALCOLM. HE H REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE. HELLO, THIS IS NEHEMIAH. IT'S THE THIRD REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE. DAVE FLOYD REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT FIVE. AND THEN ONLINE, UH, COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER ISLAND. UM, MAXINE ISLAND REPRESENTING DISTRICT SEVEN. SO IT DOES LOOK THE REPRESENTING DISTRICT 10. GREAT, THANK YOU. AND WE BEGIN WITH A PUBLIC COMMUNICATION AND AT THIS TIME, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP, SO WE PROCEED QUICKLY TO OUR MAIN AGENDA ITEM, NEW BUSINESS, THE COMMISSION ANNUAL WORK PLAN. DID WE, OH, EXCUSE ME. [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES –April 13, 2022] LET'S GO BACK AND DO AN ITEM. NUMBER ONE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 13TH, 2022. WE ALL HAVE A COPY OF THOSE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND, AND THEN WE'LL HOLD THE VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY VICE CHAIR, APODACA. I SECOND THAT MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THAT. THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HOLD THE VOTE. UNLESS ANYONE OBJECTS ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE, AND SHOW YOUR HAND. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? ANYONE ABSTAINING? ABSTAIN. OKAY, SO THAT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORD REFLECTS WE HAD ONE PERSON WHO'S OPPOSED. OH NO, NO, NO, NO. OKAY, GREAT. SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE FIVE WHO ARE IN FAVOR AND TWO ABSTENTIONS, THREE ABSTENTIONS AND FOUR IN FAVOR. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, THEN I'M AFRAID WE CAN'T APPROVE THESE MINUTES. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE WHO'VE ABSTAINED THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE THESE LONGER, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT UP WITH THE NEXT MEETING. I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT MEETING. SO I THAT'S WHY I ABSTAINED. I UNDERSTAND. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, LET ME EXPLAIN FOR EVERYONE. WE HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF SIX PEOPLE APPROVE EVERY ACTION THAT WE TAKE AS A BODY. SO WITH THREE ABSTENTIONS, WE CLEARLY HAVE TO HOLD THIS OVER. SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS? IT'S GOING TO STAY ON THE AGENDA UNTIL NEXT TIME. SO LIKE I SAID, EVERYONE, JUST PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME. YOU HAVE A WHOLE MONTH NOW TO REVIEW THESE MINUTES, TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH THEM, TO REVIEW THE ONLINE TAPE AND RECORDING. AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO TO LEVEL SET BASED OFF OF THE MINUTES AND THEN TO GET COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO APPROVE THE MOTION NEXT TIME, OR TO EXPRESS AN OPINION TO THE ALTERNATIVE, AND THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH IT ALL. GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG THEN. UH, THAT [00:05:01] DOES PUSH US BACK TO A NUMBER [2. NEW BUSINESS] TWO, A NEW BUSINESS, THE DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSION ANNUAL WORK PLAN RETREAT PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT YEAR OF THE COMMISSION AND THE ACTIVITY, WHICH WILL LEAD TODAY. I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE ACTIVITY, BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE A GROUP ACTIVITY FOR OUR COMMISSION. AS JESSE EXPLAINED IN THE COMMUNICATION TO EVERYONE. THIS HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN AN IN-PERSON EVENT, TYPICALLY AT A DIFFERENT SITE WHERE WE HAVE WHITE BOARDING, UM, YOU KNOW, AND NO CAMERAS, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE DELIGHTED, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE WORK WE'VE DONE AND PUT INTO HIGH RISK MEETINGS TO ENABLE THAT, WHICH WE HAVE FULLY IN EFFECT FOR THIS MEETING AND FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS TO BE AVAILABLE ONLINE. UM, AND SO RECOGNIZING THAT PARTICULARLY WITH THE FACT THAT WE KNOW THAT NOT EVERYONE IS ABLE TO COME IN FOR WHATEVER REASON, BUT IF THEY ARE ABLE TO JUST PAY IT ONLINE, THEY CAN STILL CONTRIBUTE. I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE BEST OF THIS OPPORTUNITY AND TO DO THAT. WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE FOOD AND ALL SHARING THAT EXPERIENCE TOGETHER AT EAT. AND SINCE WE HAD TO DIVIDE BECAUSE OF THE HYBRID MEETING APPROACH, WE AGREED TO ALL PROVIDE FOOD FOR OURSELVES. SO THOSE WHO ARE AT HOME, YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF YOUR FOOD HERE IN THE MEETING ROOM, WE'D BE EATEN, OR WE HAVE OUR OWN FOOD AS WELL, BUT WE'LL TAKE BREAKS FOR FOOD AS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS, FRANKLY, WHILE WE DELIBERATE INTERNALLY, BEFORE WE CAN DELIBERATE EXTERNALLY. SO LET ME EXPLAIN THAT BECAUSE OF THE HYBRID MEETING THAT WE'RE HAVING AND THE MEETING REQUIREMENTS, EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID AS PART OF DELIBERATION BY THE COMMISSION HAS TO BE SEEN AND HEARD. SO THAT MEANS WHEN WE HAVE A MOMENT OR TWO OR SEVERAL, WHEN WE HAVE A DOCUMENT OR THINGS WE'RE REVIEWING ONLINE, BECAUSE IT'LL TAKE THE PLACE OF THIS MEETING ROOM. IT MEANS THAT AT THAT MOMENT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY DELIBERATE. SO WE HAVE TO PAUSE, BASICALLY, LOOK AT THE THINGS AND THEN PRESS PAUSE, AGAIN, SHOW OUR FACES AND THEN REACT TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN. SO PRETTY SIMPLE PROCESS, BUT, AND CONVENIENT ACTUALLY IN THAT IT WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE SOME TIME TO EAT AND NOT ACTUALLY SHOW OUR FACES. SO THAT'S CONVENIENT. WE DON'T HAVE TO BE EMBARRASSED BY BEING CHEWING ON THE CAMERA. SO IT KIND OF WORKS OUT. UH, SO WITH THAT AS THE STAGE OF SET FOR THIS EXERCISE AND WE'RE GOING TO DO TODAY, I WANT TO TURN TO THE FIRST DOCUMENT, WHICH IS THE COMMISSION WORKING GROUP MEMBERSHIP DOCUMENT THAT WE ALL HAVE. UH, NOW IN THE ROOM, WE HAVE PRINTOUTS THOSE ONLINE. AS JESSE MENTIONED EARLIER, HE EMAILED YOU A COPY. SO THAT SAME PROCESS CAN UNFOLD FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. AS LONG AS EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO EVERYTHING THAT WAS SENT, THEN WE WON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO PAUSE. BUT I THINK WHEN IT COMES TIME TO EATING, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US TO DO THAT. SO FOR THIS FIRST ONE, LET'S JUST DIVE IN AS DESCRIBED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CCTC ANNUAL WORK PLAN, THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION RELIES UPON THREE FUNCTIONING WORK GROUPS OF FIVE COMMISSIONERS OR LESS TO MEET MONTHLY AND ADVANCED OUTLINE OBJECTIVES OF THE COMMISSION WITH A STRUCTURED TOPICAL FOCUS USED TO DIVIDE THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION. THESE MEETINGS ALLOW FOR COMMISSIONERS TO RECEIVE PRIVATE BRIEFINGS FROM CITY STAFF PARTNERS AND THE LIKE ON IMPORTANT, SENSITIVE MATTERS WHILE LONG FOR DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION ON POSSIBLE ACTIONS, WHICH WOULD ADVANCE COMMISSION OBJECTIVES DURING OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PUBLIC MEETINGS. THE CURRENT WORK GROUP MEMBERSHIP AS OF TODAY IS LISTED AS FOLLOWS. THESE WORKING GROUPS ARE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER AND THE MEMBERSHIP IS AS WELL BEGINNING WITH THE CHAIR. UH, FIRST [3a. Digital Inclusion, Civic Engagement, and Strategic Technology and Telecom Policy Working Group] WORKING GROUP COURSES, THE DIGITAL INCLUSION, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND STRATEGIC POLICY IMPACT WORKING GROUP. UH, THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE MYSELF AS CHAIR. VICE-CHAIR STEVEN UP, UH, DACA COMMISSIONER, MAXINE ISLAND, COMMISSIONER, SOPHIE GORROW AND COMMISSIONER NICOLE THOMPSON BEAVERS. OUR NEXT WORKING GROUP IS THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORKING GROUP WITH CURRENT MEMBERS ACTING AS CHAIR, COMMISSIONER DAY, FLOYD MEMBERS, VICE CHAIR, STEVEN APODACA, COMMISSIONER, MAXINE ISLAND, AND MYSELF WITH A VACANCY. AND THEN THE FINAL WORKING GROUP IS THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE INNOVATION WORKING GROUP, UH, WITH THE CURRENT CO-CHAIRS COMMISSIONERS SUBMIT DASGUPTA AND COMMISSIONER DE FLOYD, [00:10:01] AS WELL AS MEMBERS, COMMISSIONER, SOPHIE, GARROW, MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER MALCOLM GATES. AT THIS TIME, THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE COMMISSIONER WHO IS UNASSIGNED TO WORK IN GROUP. UM, DON'T TYPICALLY LIKE TO CALL ATTENTION TO THINGS LIKE THIS AND THE ABSENCE OF PEOPLE, BUT THIS IS OUR WORK PLAN RETREAT. AND THE ONLY COMMISSIONER WHO IS CURRENTLY AN ASSIGNED TO WORK GROUP IS COMMISSIONER RAMOS. YOU MAY NOTICE THAT OUR MEMBERSHIP HAS ADJUSTED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAD A MEMBER COMMISSIONERS STARSKY WHO RESIGNED FROM HIS COMMISSION IS MY UNDERSTANDING. AND SO THERE'S AN OPENING THERE. UH, AND THERE WAS ALSO A RESIGNATION OF OUR PROCEEDING VICE CHAIR AND, UH, LONG-TERM COMMISSIONER, UH, DAVE ALEXANDER. SO, UH, DAVID ALEXANDER. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE SOME OPENINGS AND OPPORTUNITIES THERE. UH, WE'RE AN EFFECTIVE BODY, BUT WHAT THIS DOES MEAN IS CLEARLY, UH, THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMISSIONER RAMOS TO JOIN ONE OF THE WORKING GROUPS. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE WATCHING NOW COMMISSIONER RAMOS. I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT YOU ARE. UM, AND THAT, THAT ALL IS WELL, UH, FOR YOU. UM, JUST LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR FEEDBACK ON THESE WORKING GROUPS AND HOPEFULLY YOUR PARTICIPATION IN ONE OF THEM GOING FORWARD. IN THE MEANTIME, THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ALL DISCUSS THE WORKING GROUPS AS MEMBERS, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE CONTENT OF THE WORKING GROUPS AT, UH, FOR EVERYONE TO BE CANDID, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A CHANGE, YOU'RE INTERESTED IN MAKING A CHANGE OR IF WE FEEL THERE'S NEED FOR, SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR FOR ANY IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK OR THOUGHTS ON THESE WORKING GROUPS AS THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED AND ANY CHANGES THAT PEOPLE MIGHT BE THINKING OF. OKAY. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S MUCH FEEDBACK ON THAT. UH, THERE'S BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO THESE WORKING GROUPS, UM, AND THEIR STRUCTURE, BUT I WANT TO REMAIN OPEN TO CONSIDERATION, UH, UH, YES. COMMISSIONER FLOYD. UM, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO, I THINK I'D LIKE TO STAY CO-CHAIR OF THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE CHAIR OF TOO. SO, UM, IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED, I LIKE THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION, DATA STORAGE GROUP, BUT IF SOMEONE ELSE IS INTERESTED IN BEING CHAIR OF THAT, THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH ME. OKAY. UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR. UM, AND, OR LET ME REPHRASE, I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR AS I HAVE APPRECIATED YOUR CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION, DATA, SHIP, WORKING SHIFT, WORKING GROUP. UM, HAVING SAID THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND ENTIRELY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. UH, I GUESS I'D HAVE TO ASK, UH, ANY CHANCE WE CAN GET YOU TO CONSIDER DROPPING THE COACH HERE BEFORE YOU DROP THE CHAIR. YES, I WOULD. I WOULD DROP THE CO-CHAIR AS WELL. YEAH. SO I JUST I'D LIKE TO DO ONE, BUT NOT, AND I'M HAPPY TO KEEP COMING TO THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY GROUP, BUT I MEAN, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE IN FROM INNOVATION GROUP, BUT YEAH, I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE IN CHAIR, GO TRIP TO OKAY. AND THEN THAT, AND THAT'S ENTIRELY UNDERSTANDABLE. UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT ALSO DOES PUT ADDITIONAL BURDEN, UH, FOR THE OTHER CO-CHAIR, BUT TO BE CANDID, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THESE WORKING GROUPS EVEN HAVE TO HAVE CHAIRS. UH, IT DOES THEY'LL REALLY HELP THE OPERATIONS OF THEM. SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO REMAIN, SHARE OF THE KIDS, THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION, AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORKING GROUP. UM, AND ALSO, SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT ACRONYM IS ONE THAT WE ARTFULLY CHOSE, UH, AS OPPOSED TO ALTERNATIVES WITH THE SAME LETTERS. UH, OKAY. SO THAT IS GREAT FEEDBACK. I THINK, UH, ONE SECOND CAN, SHOULD ASK YOU ABOUT, I THINK JESSE, YOU HAD, UH, WERE YOU JUST CALLING OUT OKAY. UH, YES. COMMISSIONER, UH DASGUPTA YEAH. SO, UH, SO, UM, LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER FRIED SAID, HE'S GOING TO STAY IN THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND INNOVATION WORKING GROUP, BUT NOT BE CO-CHAIR. IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? OKAY, UNDERSTOOD. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT A AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, YOU WOULD BE THE SOLE CHAIR OF THAT WORKING GROUP. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? UM, YEAH, I SUPPOSE. YEAH. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR LONG STANDING TENURE ON [00:15:01] THIS COMMISSION AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK. AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN APPRECIATE IF FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU MIGHT WANT TO NOT WORK SO HARD. YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE THE CHAIR POSITION, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CHANGE IN, BUT I WANT TO REMAIN IN THIS WORKING GROUP. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. I LOVE THIS WORKING GROUP. I LIKE THE, THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED, THE THINGS THAT BE, UH, UH, PUSH FORWARD. SO I WOULD LOVE TO STAY IN THIS WORKING GROUP, BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE THE CHALLENGE OF CHAIRING IT, I WILL STEP ASIDE GUIDED ON THE CHAIR. AND CO-CHAIR FOR WHAT ABOUT FOUR YEARS? FIVE YEARS. HUH? IT'S BEEN SOME TIME NOW, NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING THAT MIGHT'VE HAPPENED OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS. UH, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, WE APPRECIATE THAT. THAT, LET ME JUST PIVOT FROM THAT THEN TO THE ROOM, A LOT OF THE SCENARIO, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER IS NOT PRESENT THAT DOES KIND OF MAKE IT AS SIMPLE PROPOSITION FOR, I THINK YOUR LEADERSHIP WILL BE GREAT THIS TIME. YEAH. I'VE ALREADY HAD A SPELL OF THAT AND, UH, CONSIDERING MY OTHER, UM, CIVIC OBLIGATIONS, I'M NOT SURE THAT I COULD REALLY GIVE JUSTICE TO THE POSITION OF CHAIR RIGHT NOW, ALTHOUGH I WANT TO DEFINITELY STAY ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK GROUP. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. FAIR ENOUGH. WELL WITH THAT, THEN I HAVE ANOTHER IDEA. OH YEAH, PLEASE. UH, CHRIS ROBERT DACA, YOU , YOU ALSO ENJOYED THE, A KIDS GROUP. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN BEING THE CHAIR OF THAT? I COULD BE THE CHAIR OF THAT IF IT OKAY. AND THEN I CALLED THE INFRASTRUCTURE GROUP. OKAY. AND THEN I COULD BE CHAIR OF THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE OR CO-CHAIR WITH DUSKIN . OKAY. OKAY. UH, THAT'S INTERESTING. UM, I, I'M NOT UNOPPOSED. I DEFINITELY THOUGHT THAT ONE WAS SEPARATE FROM THE OTHER, BUT I APPRECIATE THE DYNAMICS, YOU KNOW? UH, NO, SERIOUSLY. UH, IT'S FINE. UM, AGAIN, YOU'RE HYPER BRIEF. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THAT WORKING GROUP. UM, UM, AND I LIKE IT. I'M HAPPY TO KEEP CONTRIBUTING. I JUST, I WOULD FEEL BETTER IF I WERE ONLY CHAIR RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SINCE YOU WERE THE CHAIR OF A WORK GROUP ALREADY WAS THAT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE JUST HAD NO CHAIR FOR THAT WORKING GROUP. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE A CHAIR OF A WORKING GROUP AND, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT CHESS PIECES INVOLVED IN THIS, WHICH WE ALL MANAGED TOGETHER, BUT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR AS CHAIR. I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT VICE-CHAIR OF A DACA IS THE VICE CHAIR, BUT HE'S WILLING TO TAKE IT ON. I'M SURE THAT HE'LL BE FINE. AS LONG AS YOU DON'T LEAVE THE WORKING GROUP COMMISSIONER FLOYD I'LL I'LL STAY AWESOME. WELL, THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT. WELL THEN I THINK THAT MATTERS SETTLED WITH THAT. THEN WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST AT PAR DISCUSSION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMISSIONER DAVE FLOYD AS THE CHAIR OF THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE INNOVATION WORKING GROUP. AND THEN VICE-CHAIR APODACA WILL BE THE CHAIR OF THE KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORKING GROUP. AND, UH, ONE THING BEFORE WE HOLD A VOTE TO MAKE THAT FORMAL, I WANT TO SPEAK TO AS WELL, THE MEETINGS THEMSELVES, WE HOLD OVER TEAMS. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT RESOURCE AND USE THAT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT CERTAIN ISSUES AS A PLATFORM IMMEDIATELY, BUT, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT AS IT COMES AND THE MEETINGS THEMSELVES, THEY DO HAVE TO BE INITIATED BY SOMEONE AT THE CITY, RIGHT? JESSE'S THE ONE WHO SENDS INVITATIONS AND WORE SOMEONE ELSE IN HIS ABSENCE AND THEN SPINDLES MEETINGS UP. HOWEVER, THE TIMING OF THE MEETINGS IS BASED UPON TYPICALLY A PROPOSED DATE AND TIME AND NEGOTIATED BY THE CHAIR OF THAT WORKING GROUP AND THEN AGREED UPON BY THE MEMBERS. AND SO IT'S ASSUMED THAT IF THE CHAIR OF THE WORKING GROUP CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE MEETING THAT THEY PROPOSE AND AGREED TO, THAT THEY WILL OWN THE PROCESS OF RESCHEDULING THAT MEETING, RIGHT. THEY WON'T JUST INDICATE THE CAN'T BE THERE AND YOU CAN'T LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE TO KIND OF MANAGE WITHOUT THEM. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR THAT [00:20:01] AS CHAIR OF THE WORKING GROUPS, IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO RESCHEDULE THAT MEETING THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP OUR BUSINESS GOING EFFECTIVELY. UH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE JESSIE A CHANCE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT IMPACT WORKING GROUP DYNAMICS THAT I MIGHT'VE MISSED OR SCHEDULING. NO, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD ADD. UH, BUT YOU KNOW, HAVING SOMEBODY, UH, OR HAVING THE CHAIR HANDLE THE SCHEDULING COMPONENT IN PARTICULAR, UM, I THINK IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL WITH THAT, I GOT PAMELA ROOM AND ASK YOU TO SPEAK UP, GO RIGHT AHEAD, PLEASE. UM, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVELY, IT COULD BE, IF THE CHAIR IS NOT AVAILABLE, HE COULD REQUEST ONE OF THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE WORKING GROUP TO SORT OF LEAD THE DISCUSSION IN HIS OR HER ABSENCE. AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE CHAIR AND THE PERSON WHO LEADS IT TO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, GET TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON, ON BOARD. WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE RATHER THAN HAVING TO RESCHEDULE IT? IT'S ALWAYS SLOWS THINGS UP. I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN KEEPING TO A CERTAIN SCHEDULE. THERE'S THREE IT'S ON EVERYBODY'S CALENDAR FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. YES. I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT MAYBE IT WAS UNSAID BECAUSE IF THE MEETING ITSELF FIRST OFF WE'RE, WE'RE HANDLING IMPORTANT BUSINESS. SO WITH AN AGENDA SET FOR THAT MEETING, THAT FIRST CONSIDERATION SHOULD ALWAYS BE IN THE ABSENCE OF BEING UNAVAILABLE TO BE THERE IS THIS BUSINESS SO IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO GO ON WITHOUT ME, IF I'M THE CHAIR OF THAT WORKING GROUP. RIGHT. AND I WOULD SAY MOST OFTEN THAT'S THE CASE, UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING WHERE ONLY I KNOW ABOUT IT, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WAITING TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT. RIGHT. THEN IT MEANS WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT WORKING GROUP CHAIR TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT CONVERSATION. SO IT ALWAYS DEPENDS ON THE AGENDA. AND I THINK TO YOUR POINT, AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN ON SET EARLIER, BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR NOW THAT I AGREE THAT THE WORKING GROUP CHAIR CAN DESIGNATE SOMEONE TO STAND IN THEIR ABSENCE. AND IN FACT, THE WORKING GROUP CHAIR ALSO HAS TO ARTFULLY DECIDE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO PUSH THE MEETING BASED ON WHO DOESN'T SHOW UP, RIGHT. IF ONLY THE CHAIR IS AVAILABLE AND THEY SHOW UP, THEY COULD MAYBE HAVE SOME CONVERSATION WITH JESSE ABOUT THE ISSUE. IT MIGHT MOVE SOME THINGS FORWARD, BUT IT WON'T ALLOW US TO DELIBERATE AS, AS, AS A WORKING GROUP. RIGHT. SO THAT MEETING TIME WILL NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE RESCHEDULED. SO IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE INCUMBENT UPON THE CHAIR IF THEY CAN'T BE THERE TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE ELSE IS THERE TO HANDLE THE BUSINESS, OR IF, IF THEY CAN AND, OR HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THAT THEY DO. SO, SO, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT VICE CHAIR, DACA. THANK YOU. UM, JUST CURIOUS, UH, IF AT A LATER DATE, NOT THAT I HAVE A SUGGESTION, UH, AT THIS POINT, BUT IF AT A LATER DATE WE DETERMINED COLLECTIVELY THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ADJUST OR CREATE ADDITIONAL WORKING GROUPS. WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE AND IS, IS NOW THE TIME TO DO IT AGAIN? NOT THAT I HAVE A SUGGESTION OR, UM, COULD WE DO IT AT ANY POINT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? WELL, THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT THE BEST TIME BECAUSE WE'RE SETTING THE PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT YEAR. HAVING SAID THAT THOUGH, ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE BEGINS WITH A CONSENSUS BEING BUILT AROUND IT, AND THEN WITH ENOUGH CONSENSUS AND A BOAT, EVEN INCLUDING AMENDMENTS OF, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL WORK, THE MISSION STATEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, LEGAL DOCUMENTS, NO, BUT, OR AT LEAST OUR DOCUMENTS WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED OFFICIAL UNTIL THEY GOT CERTIFIED. BUT IN MY UNDERSTANDING, WE COULD ACTUALLY DISCUSS THESE THINGS AND ADOPT THIS KIND OF CHANGES AT ANY POINT. THE HISTORY OF THAT IS THAT, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE HAD MORE WORKING GROUPS, BUT WE CONDENSE THEM BECAUSE THERE WAS A PROBLEM IN GETTING ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR MEETINGS THAT, UM, NOT DURING THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS OF THE, OF THE COMMISSION, BUT, UH, IF THERE'S ENOUGH ENTHUSIASM, I IMAGINE THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. IT WOULD KIND OF SPLIT THE WORKLOAD A LITTLE BIT BETTER. DID YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OR BRAINSTORMS [00:25:01] THAT YOU WANTED TO SHARE NOW? NO, NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. UM, FOR ME, JUST FROM THE PAST YEAR OR SO THREE WORKING GROUPS SEEMS, UM, WISE GIVEN THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES GIVEN OUR, UM, THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS IN TOTAL OF THE COMMISSION. SO THAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD NUMBER AT THIS POINT. UM, BUT JUST REFERENCE FOR MYSELF. YEAH, SURE, SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR, ALSO FOR THAT HISTORICAL POINT OF REFERENCE. I ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER, BUT YEAH, THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME. IN FACT, THAT HAPPENED JUST BEFORE I JOINED, BUT I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THOUGHT HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT AND THEN TO GET DOWN TO THESE EVEN MORE THOUGHT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. WELL WITH THAT THEN, UM, WE HAVE DISCUSS THE CHANGES TO WORK IN GROUP MEMBERSHIP THAT WOULD INCLUDE CHANGE MAKING ASSISTANT, EXCUSE ME, VICE CHAIR, STEVEN APODACA, THE CHAIR OF THE KIDS WORKING GROUP AND MAKING COMMISSIONER FLOYD, THE CHAIR OF THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND INNOVATION WORKING GROUP. SO WITH THAT, THEN I MOVE THAT. WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES OFFICIAL TO OUR WORK PLAN. AND I'LL LOOK FOR A SECOND SO WE CAN HOLD A VOTE. I SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. I HEARD A SECOND FIRST BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON BEAVERS WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL HOLD A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CHANGES THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED TO OUR WORK PLAN AND WORKING GROUP MEMBERSHIP. PLEASE SAY I, AND SHOW YOUR HAND. I, I, IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED? AND AS THERE'S NO ONE ABSTAINING, I SEE. SO WE HAVE A VOTE SEVEN TO ZERO IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. UM, OKAY. NOW CONTINUING WITH, UH, THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PIVOT TOWARDS THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS WORK PLAN RETREAT DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. AND AS YOU'LL NOTICE WHAT THIS IS, IS A UPDATED VERSION OF LAST YEAR'S WORK PLAN WITH SOME CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED THROUGH DISCUSSIONS AND WORK IN GROUPS, THE INCLUSION OF STRATEGIC OUTCOMES. HOWEVER, THERE'LL BE A NEED FOR AMENDING THIS DOCUMENT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE AN UPDATED DOCUMENT FROM ONE OF OUR WORKING GROUP CHAIRS THAT WE'LL WANT TO INTEGRATE INTO THIS DOCUMENT. AND WE'LL OF COURSE WE'LL MAKE OUR CHANGES TODAY. ONE THING I WANT TO SPEAK TO BEFORE WE DIVE IN FURTHER AS WE, WE CONDUCTED AN EXERCISE EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, WITHIN THE WORKING GROUPS TO ALIGN OUR OBJECTIVES TO DIFFERENT STRATEGIC OUTCOMES. AND WE SPENT A LITTLE TIME DOING THAT ONE THING THOUGH, THAT BECAME CLEAR, UH, THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS. AND, AND CERTAINLY NOW REFLECTING ON THE PROCESS IS THAT ALL OF OUR WORKING GROUPS ALIGN TO EVERY STRATEGIC OUTCOME. IT REALLY IS JUST A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE, UH, DEPENDING UPON WHAT IT IS. UM, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE NEAT THINGS ABOUT THIS COMMISSION, UH, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE DO IS ALIGNED TO A STRATEGIC, UH, STRATEGIC OUTCOME THAT MAKES WHAT WE DO THAT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT. UM, AND IT CAN MAKE IT MAYBE A LITTLE WORRISOME, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, MISSION CREEP AND SCOPE, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING. UH, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY TIGHT FOCUS THAT CAN ALLOW US TO BE EFFECTIVE AND GET THINGS DONE AS WE'VE DEMONSTRATED. BUT I'M SAYING THAT ALL TO SAY THAT WHAT I'M GOING TO EDIT ON THIS PLAN GOING FORWARD IS A GENERAL STATEMENT, UH, BARRING ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK FROM ANYONE ELSE, UH, TO THE CONTRARY, UM, THAT ALIGNS TO WHAT I JUST SAID, UH, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS JUST A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE. UH, WHEN I LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE OBJECTIVE, I COULD FIND A WAY TO ALIGN IT LOGICALLY TO ONE OF THESE STRATEGIC OUTCOMES PERSONALLY. UH, SO WITH THAT BEING SET UP, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR FEEDBACK ON THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE UNILATERAL DECISIONS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WHEN IT'S ONE THAT ELEVATES, I THINK JUSTLY, THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR WORK, THEN I FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT, [00:30:02] UH, PARTICULARLY WORK IN SERVICE OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. SO, UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT TO FEEDBACK ON THAT, ABOUT THESE STRATEGIC OUTCOMES AND THEIR ALIGNMENT SO THIS IS FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS, OR JUST SPECIFICALLY ONE YOU UNDER TO START OFF WITH, UH, I STARTED WITH THAT AS A TOPIC BECAUSE I THINK IT COVERS THEM ALL. SO I GUESS THE CHALLENGE, IF THERE THERE'S A CHALLENGE, IT WOULD BE TO FIND A SINGLE OBJECTIVE THAT CAN'T LOGICALLY BE APPLIED TO ONE OF THESE STRATEGIC OUTCOMES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THE CASE. I THINK THAT LOGICALLY EVERY ONE OF THEM IN EVERY WORK GROUP APPLIES TO EVERY OUTCOME. UH, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OVERALL COMMISSION GOALS, THEN THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY. OKAY. SO WHEREAS, ALL RIGHT, SO OUR COMMISSION HAS, UH, OUR GOALS MUST ALIGN WITH THE, UH, THE CITY GOALS THEN. AND SO THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED SOMEWHERE, I THINK. OH YES. THAT'S ALWAYS INCLUDED IN THE ACTUAL WORK PLAN. AND IN FACT, UH, OUR FUNNEL, OUR OVERALL COMMISSION GOALS IS WHERE THAT, THAT ALIGNMENT IS SPOKEN TO. YES. I AGREE THAT AS A COMMISSION, WE HAVE TO ALIGN WITH ALL THE STRATEGIC OUTCOMES, BUT IS IT NECESSARY THAT EVERY WORKING GROUP HAS TO ALIGN TO EVERY SINGLE OUTCOME? OR IS IT IN THE TOTALITY OF THE THREE WORKING GROUPS THAT WE ADDRESS ALL THE STRATEGIC OUTCOMES? NO, IN FACT, I THANK YOU FOR REFRAMING THAT, BECAUSE SOMETHING I SAID EARLIER, IT MIGHT'VE SOUNDED A LITTLE OFF. WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WE ADDRESS EVERY STRATEGIC OUTCOME WITHIN OUR WORKING GROUPS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THINGS LIKE AND EVEN THEN, RIGHT. SO EVEN SOMETHING WHICH SEEMS LIKE IT HAS A NARROW LANE, LIKE MOBILITY IS AN OUTCOME AFFECTED BY EVERY WORKING GROUP. SO TO YOUR POINT, WHAT WE COULD DO PERHAPS FOR BETTER ALIGNMENT AND, AND, AND TO BE FAIR, THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE THE DESIGNATIONS THAT WAS MADE BY THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND INNOVATION WORKING GROUP, I THINK. YEAH. I'M STILL WAITING PROBABLY FOR THE INTEGRATION OF, OF YOUR NOTES AS OUR, AS CO-CHAIRS. I THINK Y'ALL HAVE THAT. AND SO WE'LL NEED TO INTEGRATE THAT, BUT I STILL THINK THIS IS A HELPFUL EXERCISE FOR US TO, TO FI TO FINALIZE, UH, BECAUSE IT'LL MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO INDICATE FOR CITY COUNCIL, HOW OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE DIRECTLY ALIGNED TO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES THAT ARE MANAGING THE DIFFERENT OUTCOMES. SO MAY I SUGGEST THAT WE FIRST IDENTIFY THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON, AND THEN OUR ITEM, WE GO DOWN THE LIST OF OUTCOMES AND SAY, OKAY, THIS ITEM ALIGNS WITH THIS OUTCOME. THIS ITEM ALIGNS WITH THIS OUTFIT. AND THEN WE TAKE THE ENTIRE MASS OF THESE ACTION ITEMS OVER THE ENTIRE SET UP WORKING GROUPS AND SAY, HAVE WE COVERED ALL SIX OUTCOMES? THAT SOUNDS FINE TO ME. I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT, WE SPENT A LOT OF WORK IN THE WORKING GROUPS DOING SOME OF THAT. UH, SO PART OF MY, MY GOAL AND REREADING IT WAS WANTING TO SIMPLIFY, BUT IN BRIEFLY COVERING IT AGAIN HERE TODAY, I RECOGNIZE THAT CERTAIN, CERTAIN ONES ARE TRULY OUTSIDE OF THE NORM WITH OTHERS, BUT YET THEY'RE STILL COVERED BY TOPICALLY BY DIFFERENT OUTCOMES. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND EXCUSE ME BY DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES OF OURS. SO WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND, AND JUST KEEP THIS IN MIND. AND THEN ONCE WE GET TO A WORKING GROUP WHERE PERHAPS EITHER WE DON'T HAVE IT NOTED, OR WE NEED TO DO THAT [00:35:01] ON THE FLY, WE CAN DO THAT. OTHERWISE WE CAN DO THAT TOWARDS THE END THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, AFTER WE'VE CONFIRMED THE OBJECTIVES. SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT POINT, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND JUMP IN TO THE FIRST WORKING GROUP? UH, WE CAN LOOK AT THE LIST HERE. WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE MEMBERSHIP. AND SO THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY BE EDITED TO REFLECT OUR NEW CHAIR OF THE WORKING GROUP, VICE CHAIR. AND WITH THAT, THEN ONE OF THE THINGS WHICH IS ALSO PRETTY COMMON TO DO IS TO LET THE WORKING GROUP CHAIRS LEAD THE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT WITH THIS FIRST ONE. AND, UH, THE NEW TRANSITION I'LL HELP, BUT I'D LIKE TO DEFER. SO TO BEGIN WITH, AS IS LISTED, THESE OBJECTIVES ARE NOT LISTED IN ANY TYPE OF PRIOR ORDER PRIORITIZATION. ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME COINCIDENCE OF THAT. SO BEGINNING WITH THE FIRST OBJECTIVE TO HELP THE CITY OF AUSTIN, COMMUNICATE CITY PROGRAMS, RESOURCES, ET CETERA, TO UNDERSERVED AREAS AND COMMUNITIES WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE INTERNET TO HELP CITIZENS ENGAGE CITY OF BOSTON USING TECHNOLOGY. NOW THAT'S AN OBJECTIVE THAT ALIGNS WITH A VARIETY OF SHEET GAL COMES AS IS LISTED THERE. I'D SAY THOSE ARE PRETTY ON POINT. I WOULD AGREE. YEAH. RIGHT. I MEAN, YOU MIGHT THROW A CULTURE AND LIFELONG LEARNING IN THERE AS WELL. YEAH. IT REALLY COVERS EVERYTHING. YUP. ALL THE ABOVE. OKAY. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THIS OBJECTIVE AND REALLY FOR EACH OF THESE OBJECTIVES, UH, THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN INITIATIVE AND, OR PROGRAM OR, UH, OR SOMETHING, AN ACTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE OBJECTIVE. NOW, IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE AN ENTIRE PROGRAM, BUT G TOPS REALLY DOES KIND OF STAND ON ITS OWN. AND IT'S CLEAR, FOCUSES DIGITAL INCLUSION WHEN IT COMES TO INFORMATION SHARING. IT'S NOT UNIQUE. IT'S NOT A UNIQUE PROGRAM, OBJECTIVE OF G TOPS TO SHARE INFORMATION, RIGHT, DETOX AROUND IMPROVING ACCESS TO THE INTERNET RESOURCES, UH, ACCESS TO DEVICES AND ACCESS TO TRAINING AND THE LITERACY FOR SKILLS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO RIGHT NOW, UH, OUR COMMISSION PROVIDES FEEDBACK FOR, UH, I GUESS, AN ONGOING NEWSLETTER THAT GOES OUT RIGHT NOW. OUR COMMISSION IS ENGAGED IN HOSTING TOWN HALL, LISTENING SESSIONS, AND SPINNING UP A PROGRAM THERE, WHICH IS ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S OBVIOUSLY DIGITAL INCLUSION, THAT'S ABOUT KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP. UH, THAT'S KIND OF THE HISTORICAL. AND FOR EACH OF THESE, UM, I ENVISION A HISTORICAL AND KIND OF A NEXT STEP. UH, SO ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS THAT THAT CAME UP WAS [00:40:05] LEVERAGING THE EXISTING AUSTIN FREENET PROGRAM, DIGITAL NAVIGATOR PROGRAM TO ENABLE NOT JUST A HANDS-ON SKILLS TRAINING, BUT ALSO RESELL RESOURCING. UH, THERE WAS AN IDEA THAT ACTUALLY WAS BORN OUT OF OUR TOWN HALL LISTENING SESSION TO ENABLE 2, 1, 1, RIGHT, OR THREE AND OR 3, 1, 1 TO HELP COMMUNICATE CITY PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES SPECIFICALLY, UH, THAT I THINK IS SOMETHING WHICH WE SHOULD LOOK TO FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT AND OR PROMOTE, UH, SO THAT THOSE COULD BE POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS FOR US THERE. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT ONE, ANYONE, BUT HOW WE COULD DO THAT? I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY REACHING OUT TO, UM, THE COORDINATORS OF, OF 3, 1, 1 TO SEE WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE. UM, BUT PRIOR TO DOING THAT, CERTAINLY ENGAGING WITH AUSTIN FREENET, UM, TO SEE IF, IF THEY EVEN HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PICK THAT UP. I'M NOT SURE I WAS IN THAT SPECIFIC CONVERSATION IN THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSION THAT, THAT YOU WERE IN. SO, YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE MORE FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT IN FACT, THAT AS WELL AS, UH, SUPPORT FROM THE, FROM OUR PARTNER, WITH THE LIBRARY, REALLY TO HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, MAXIMIZE RESOURCE DISTRIBUTION, I KNOW THAT FUNDING THROUGH OUR LIBRARY PARTNERS IS SOMETHING WHICH WE'VE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO HELP, UH, HAVE ACCESS TO RIGHT. TO HELP DO THE DISTRIBUTION OF, UM, AND THIS COLLABORATION AROUND THE TOWN HALLS IS SOMEWHAT OF AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WELL, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THROUGH THE COLLABORATION IS TO CONNECT AUSTIN FREENET AND THE LIBRARY. RIGHT. AND THEY WERE ABLE TO THEN LEVERAGE EXISTING GRANT FUNDS TO AUSTIN FREENET THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO ENABLE THAT RESOURCING. RIGHT. AND THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD BRIEFLY THIS PAST WEEKEND, UH, WITH, UH, EMMY JOHNSON, UH, AND, UH, THAT DID NOT INCLUDE AUSTIN FREENET. UH, BUT I KNOW FIRSTHAND THAT AUSTIN FREE NIGHT IS EAGER FOR THOSE KINDS OF RESOURCES. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, THERE'S NO MORE THOUGHTS ON THAT ONE. UH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED. I THINK THE NEXT IS A DATA MAPPING AND ANALYSIS, A FEW DIFFERENT DESCRIPTIONS THERE ON THE STRATEGIC OUTCOMES, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND AFFORDABILITY GOVERNMENT THAT WORKS FOR ALL. I THINK THAT IT'S TOUGH NOT TO IMAGINE HOW A VARIETY, ESPECIALLY A VARIETY OF DATA MAPPING AND DATA POINTS, UH, THAT WE'VE SEEN CONVEY HISTORICAL DYNAMICS AND CURRENT DYNAMICS BORN OUT OF THE PANDEMIC THAT AFFECT HEALTH OUTCOMES. FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S TOUGH NOT TO IMAGINE DATA MAPPING AND ANALYSIS AFFECTING HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT. IT'S TOUGH NOT TO IMAGINE DATA MAPPING ANALYSIS, NOT AFFECTING SAFETY. IT'S TOUGH, NOT THAT CONSIDERING THAT, UH, IT COULD EVEN AFFECT CULTURE AND LIFELONG LEARNING. SO, SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE, UH, THERE'S UBIQUITY TO IT THAT I SEE. UM, SO I'M INCLINED TO MAKE THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THE ABOVE, AND THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE THESE ARE AREAS WHERE WE KNOW, UM, THE HELP OF CITY COUNCIL AND RESOURCES, [00:45:01] UH, EITHER FROM PARTNERS OR BUDGET FROM CITY COUNCIL WILL BE HELPFUL AS WE DELVE INTO THEM BEGINNING WITH EQUITABLE BROADBAND, UH, UH, GEOGRAPHICAL DATA REPORT AND ANALYSIS. A RIGHT. THIS IS ONE WHERE WE HAVE AT THE GAME, THE HISTORICAL AND THE NEXT STEP. SO HISTORICALLY WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN, UH, A COORDINATED EFFORT, UH, THAT INCLUDES, UH, SPEED UP AMERICA. THAT INCLUDES, UH, OUR, OF COURSE OUR, UH, SENIOR CONSULTANT, UH, CATTAN HARMON, UH, IT'S INCLUDED THE TERROR OFFICE, UH, AND PARTNERS. IN FACT, UH, JESSE, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SHARE SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE, UH, FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN HERE HISTORICALLY, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I THINK. SURE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE SCOPE OF THIS IS LIMITED TO THE ACTIVITY COMING OUT OF, UH, TARA, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH TARA IN TERMS OF DATA AND MAPPING. UM, WE HAVE, AS CHAIRPERSON MENTIONED RECENTLY RELEASED THE MEASURE, AUSTIN QUALITATIVE REPORT ON THE, UH, DIGITAL DIVIDE IN AUSTIN. SO THAT, UH, THAT'S A RESEARCH INITIATIVE THAT HAS RECENTLY COME TO A CLOSE. UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, PUBLISHED INFORMATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CHILDREN'S OPTIMAL HEALTH RELATING TO THE MAP DIGITAL DIVIDE, UH, BASED ON THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY DATA GOING FORWARD. OH, AND ONE MORE, WE HAVE G TOPS REFERENCED HERE. SO WE HAD A PARTNERSHIP WITH UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, UH, LBJ SCHOOL TO ANALYZE 20 YEARS OF DETOX DATA IN THERE. THEY'VE, THEY'RE PROVIDING US WITH A REPORT ON, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR ANALYSIS WAS, UH, WHICH IS STILL TO BE, UH, FINALIZED, UM, GOING FORWARD. WE HAVE THIS YEAR, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY-WIDE OR THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TYPE OF QUANTITATIVE RESEARCH EFFORT. SO THIS YEAR'S VERSION OF THE RESIDENTIAL TECHNOLOGY STUDY, WHICH IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS, UH, PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT WE DO THIS EVERY THREE YEARS. AND SO THIS YEAR, UH, WOULD BE THE YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. UM, THAT IS THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING, UH, ON, ON HOW WE DO THIS THIS YEAR. UH, TRAVIS COUNTY HAS SIMULTANEOUSLY PASSED SOME FUNDING TO, UH, SUPPORT QUANTITATIVE STUDIES AROUND THE SAME TOPICS AS US. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH THEM, UH, ON THIS INITIATIVE. UM, WE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF NEGOTIATING, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. UM, THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE IT COULD BE A RANDOM SAMPLE OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, OR IT COULD BE A PARTICULAR STUDY OF THE UNDERSERVED AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, WERE STILL TRYING TO MAP OUT WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, BUT THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S MOVING FORWARD NOW IT'S GOING TO OCCUR OVER THE NEXT YEAR. UM, WE'RE ALSO ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN, UM, VISUALIZE, UH, DATA THAT HELPS US TO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHERE DO WE NEED TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND SO EFFORTS THAT WE ARE, UH, LOOKING AT FOR THE FUTURE AND HAVE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST, UH, WE HAVE SPEED UP THE SPEED OF AMERICA ITEM LISTED HERE. THAT WAS AN EFFORT TO SHOW OR TO MAP, UH, BROADBAND SPEEDS, UH, IN THE AUSTIN AREA. THAT IS STILL SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE WITH SPEED UP AMERICA, UH, AT THIS MOMENT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL INVESTIGATING. UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE UNPRECEDENTED AFFORDABLE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ACP PROGRAM, THE AFFORDABLE CONNECTIVITY PROGRAM THAT WAS LAUNCHED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. THERE'S LOTS OF DATA RELATED TO WHERE THE, UH, THE ELIGIBLE POPULATIONS ARE AND WHAT THE SIGN-UPS AT A REGIONAL LEVEL ARE. UM, SO SOMETHING THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF DATA AND MAPPING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IS TO SHOW, UH, WHERE ARE PEOPLE SIGNING UP FOR THIS PROGRAM AND WHERE ARE PEOPLE ELIGIBLE TO SIGN UP FOR THIS PROGRAM? UM, SO ALL OF THOSE ARE OUR DATA AND MAPPING NEEDS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IN TERROR. AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND, UM, WE WANT TO DO OUR BEST, OF COURSE, SUPPORT ALL THOSE EFFORTS, UH, AND, UH, PROVIDE THE NECESSARY FEEDBACK, UH, AND WHERE IT CAN BE HELPFUL, CERTAINLY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OR ENGAGEMENT, [00:50:01] UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THESE EFFORTS. UM, I KNOW THE ACP DATA MAPPING IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE I'M VERY INTRIGUED TO SEE AN ANALYSIS OF UNSERVED VERSUS UNDERSERVED. UH, PARTICULARLY SINCE WE'VE GOT OUR SPRAWLING COMMUNITY HERE, THAT INCLUDES SUBURBAN AND RURAL. SO THERE'S A GOOD TRANSITION THERE THEN TO SOME OTHER ITEMS. UH, NUMBER THREE, I'D SAY IS A, AN ITEM OBJECTIVE, WHICH HAS BEEN MANAGED AND HANDLED, UH, THE MONITORING OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN WEB REDESIGN PROJECT. UH, NUMBER FOUR, THE COUNCIL VOTE DATABASE, UH, KNOW WE WERE ACTUALLY AWAITING ACTION FROM, FROM THE CITY ON THAT, AND WE'LL RESPOND, UH, JESSE JUST MADE MENTION OF THE RESONANCE TECHNOLOGY STUDY THERE AND FOLLOW UP IT'S PENDING. SO YEAH, I HAD SOME COMMENTS TO MAKE ON THAT ONE FIRST IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CITY GOALS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THIS. NOW, IS THERE A CITY GOAL ON TRANSPARENCY? IS THAT ONE OF THE, UH, WHICH, WHICH OUT WHICH OBJECTIVE WERE YOU REFERRING TO YOUR GATES? THAT'S JUST IT, UH, IS THERE AN OBJECTIVE CALLED TRANSPARENCY? I SAVED A GOVERNMENT THAT WORKS FOR ALL. SO THAT SHOULD BE WHAT, UM, IS, UH, ATTACHED TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR THEN, AND AS FOR NEXT ACTION, IT SEEMS TO BE THAT, UH, THIS COMMISSION HAS GOT TO MAKE AN INQUIRY TO THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE ABOUT WHEN THIS WILL BE ON THEIR AGENDA, BECAUSE WE HAVE REQUESTED IT TO BE ON AN YET, I'D SAY YOU'RE CORRECT. COMMISSIONER GATES. UM, I THINK WE DO HAVE THAT, OF COURSE, THAT WE DO ALREADY SEE THE ALIGNMENT THERE WITH GOVERNMENT THAT WORKS FOR ALL. UM, I WAS STILL KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE WHERE THINGS STOOD. UM, I THINK WE'RE AWAITING COMMUNICATION, OR HAVE WE ALREADY ENGAGED IN THAT? I HAVE TO REACH INTO MY MEMORY BANKS. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SO MANY HOOPS WITH THIS ONE AND, UH, MY, MY MEMORIES ARE PRETZELED AROUND, UH, WHERE THIS LEFT OFF, BUT IF MEMORY SERVES, UH, THIS WAS, UH, INITIALLY LOST IN THE, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AWAITING ASSIGNMENT. WE, WE BUMPED THIS UP A MONTH OR TWO AGO, UH, UH, WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THEY HAVE ASSIGNED IT TO THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE AND, AND, UH, THEY, UH, WERE AWAITING THEM TO PLACE IT ON AN AGENDA. THEY DID NOTE THAT THEY WOULD NOTIFY US WHEN THAT WAS DONE AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE FOLLOWUP IS WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, AS OPPOSED TO ALL THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE. IT IS WHAT THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE NOW. OKAY. AND, UH, THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THIS ITEM AND THEY'RE ALSO BOMBARDING THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE WITH QUESTIONS. ALSO, IT TAKES A VILLAGE. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, UM, WITH THAT, THEN, UH, LET'S SEE THE NEXT ITEM, THE UT CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, COMMISSION AND A LOCAL AGREEMENT. UH, YES, WE ALREADY HAVE DESIGNATED, WE NEED TO ENGAGE, UH, OUR CHIEF RESEARCH AND STRATEGIC INITIATIVES OFFICER ON THERE. UM, I'LL TAKE THEM ON AS AN ACTION. AND THEN WITH THE NUMBER SEVEN CITYWIDE TECHNOLOGY, PILOT AUDIT AND ASSESSMENT, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A COMMENT THERE MAYBE BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. WE'RE TALKING [00:55:01] ABOUT AN ASSESSMENT OF PILOTS, AND I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TECHNOLOGY AUDIT AROUND SOFTWARE TO BE CLEAR BEGINNING WITH SOFTWARE THAT WE AGREE WITH. THE NEXT ACTION SHOULD BE TO FOLLOW UP WITH CHRIS STEWART. HE MADE CLEAR THAT HE WAS WORKING TOWARDS, UH, AN OPERATING MODEL, UH, WHERE, UH, THE COO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. BUT I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT WITH HIM AND ASK FOR SOME DIRECTION THERE, THE ATLAS ONE APD FOLLOW-UP JUST TO BE CLEAR ON SEVEN A, ARE YOU DOING THAT FOLLOW UP CHAIR PITS? UH, YES. YES. I'M GOING TO FOLLOW UP THERE. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. UH, YES, I HAVE A QUESTION AND I STARTED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SERVE LIKE ROLL BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S MORE QUESTIONING IN PRINCIPLE. UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN WEBPAGES, I ASSUME THIS IS THAT REQUEST TO RECORD, UH, UM, COUNCIL DECISIONS ON A SPREADSHEET IS EVERY THIS CORRECT? YEAH. SO THIS HAS BEEN SITTING ON OUR, ON OUR, ON OUR FRONT BURNER, UH, FOR TWO YEARS, BUT NOT SURE IT'S IN ANYBODY, ELSE'S FUN BURNING. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS? YOU KNOW, IS THAT NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURES BUSINESS AS USUAL, OR IS THERE A WAY BY WHICH WE CAN EXPEDITE SOME OF THESE DECISIONS OR THESE ACTIONS? WELL, I THINK THAT WE'VE DELIBERATING A LITTLE BIT ON HOW WE CAN GO DIRECTLY BACK TO, UH, OUR INITIAL REQUEST AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RE-ENGAGE ABOUT THE REQUEST. I KNOW THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE TO IS, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THESE DYNAMICS SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED IN THIS SESSION OR IF THEY SHOULD BE DISCUSSED IN THE WORKING GROUP, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR GOALS IN MIND, UH, ALWAYS HAPPY TO, TO AIR THESE MATTERS FOR THE COMMUNITY AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY IN MIND AND, AND, AND THE GOAL OF, OF ACHIEVING THE OUTCOME IN MIND, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE DIPLOMATIC AND SENSITIVE. UM, RIGHT. SO I THINK WE'VE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH COVERED THIS ISSUE. UH, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT, IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME, UH, BUT, OKAY. SO GOING BACK TO A SEVEN B UH, ATLAS ONE, UH, AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE APP UP, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT. I KNOW, UM, THERE WAS A NEXT ACTION TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE, UH, AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT PIO AND ENGAGE WITH THE BODY CAM RESEARCH CONTACTS, UH, BOTH BY JESSE AND MYSELF, UH, THAT OUTREACH HAS BEGUN. UH, I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE, UH, APO CONTACT DESIGNATED THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ENGAGE. AND I'VE HAD CONFIRMATION THAT ONE OF THE FEW CONTACTS THAT WE TALKED WITH ABOUT POLICE BODY CAM, UH, BODY CAM AND VIDEO PROCESSING FOR IS STILL THERE. UH, SO I MAY HAVE TO CHECK THE ORG CHART CHART WITH APD, OR JUST WORKED WITH THE PIO, BUT EITHER WAY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT ADVANCED, UH, THREE S EXCUSE ME, SEVEN C THE COMMUNITY FIRST 3D 3D PRINTING. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 3D PRINTING, UH, SOLUTIONS FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. UH, OUR NEXT ACTION THERE IS TO CHECK STATUS, INVITE THEM TO PRESENT. UH, I KNOW THAT'S IN PROCESS, UM, AND TO CONNECT WITH, UH, DIANA GRAY, UH, THE NEWLY APPOINTED, UH, HOMELESSNESS STRATEGY OFFICER. WE'RE STILL WAITING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, BUT, UH, WE ASSUME THAT TO BE IN PROGRESS, UH, THEN D THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, DRONES AND SMART CITY TECH. THE NEXT ACTION WAS FOR, UH, BY MYSELF WITH JASON, JOHN MICHAEL, AND, UH, I'VE ALREADY RECEIVED CONFIRMATION FROM JASON, JOHN MICHAEL, THAT HE WANTS TO JOIN THE [01:00:01] NEXT WORKING GROUP DISCUSSION. SO THAT'LL BE GREAT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS BECAUSE, UM, IT'LL PIVOT INTO THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND WORKING GROUP DISCUSSION ON THE AUTONOMY INSTITUTE. SO WITH THAT, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON PAST THESE OBJECTIVES, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IT'S QUITE A BIT, UH, FOR A WORKING GROUP TO FOCUS ON. AND SOME AREAS I THINK ARE MORE COMPLEX THAN OTHERS, WHERE WE CAN CLEARLY GET DEEPER. UM, ONE THING THOUGH, THAT STEMS THAT STANDS OUT, THAT I WANTED TO MENTION AS A POTENTIAL ADDITION, IT DOES CENTER AROUND THINGS LIKE TRANSPARENCY AND PRIVACY. UM, I SHARED A RESEARCH REPORT, A PRELIMINARY REPORT FROM DR. SHARON STOVER WITH EVERYONE, UM, THAT EXPLORED THE SUBJECT OF VIDEO AND VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, UH, TAKING PLACE IN DIFFERENT CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING AUSTIN, AND THEY FINALIZED A MUCH MORE ROBUST REPORT, UH, WHICH WE WANTED TO RECEIVE AND BE ABLE TO DIVE INTO AT THE WORKING LEVEL. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT ON AS AN OBJECTIVE. UH, IT'S MY SUGGESTION THAT WE SHOULD ADD TO, UH, OUR OBJECTIVES TO BASICALLY HELPED THE CITY OF AUSTIN REMAIN SENSITIVE TO COMMUNITY NEEDS FOR PRIVACY AND CONCERNS AROUND PRIVACY AND DATA MANAGEMENT, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH FACIAL RECOGNITION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. RIGHT. UM, THAT, THAT IS DEFINITELY THE SPIRIT OF THAT RESEARCH. AND I THINK THAT, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BE WITH THAT. THAT'S MY ONLY SUGGESTION, UH, THAT IS RESEARCH THAT I KNOW HAS FORTHCOMING RESEARCH THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER ADDING, BUT THAT'S MY 2 CENTS. UH, SO WITH THAT, I'M SORRY. I KIND OF, I MEANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU, BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO PASS IT TO THE NEWLY APPOINTED CHAIR OF THIS WORKING GROUP TO HAD HIS THOUGHTS AND TO WEIGH IN THERE. YEP. I WOULD AGREE. AND THAT SEEMS, UM, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM, PRETTY MANAGEABLE TO ADD TO OUR SLATE OF NUMBER OF A SLATE OF ITEMS. UH, SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, I THINK THE, UM, THE NEXT STEP ON THAT IS REVIEW OF THE POLICY REPORT WHEN IT IS AUTHORED AND, UM, AS A WORKING GROUP, SEE IF THERE'S POSSIBLE ACTIONS NEEDED. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? OKAY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG [3c. Technology, Infrastructure, and Innovation Working Group] TO THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND INNOVATION WORKING GROUP, AND WITH THAT, THEN, UH, I'M GOING TO PASS IT OFF TO THE CHAIR OF THE WORKING GROUP. I'LL JUMP IN AS NEEDED, BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE, UH, COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA, EXCUSE ME. UH, THAT'S RIGHT. WE'VE HAD SOME CHANGES HERE. PARDON ME? UH, NOW THE SOLE CHAIR OF THE WORKING GROUP, UH, COMMISSIONER FLOYD, UH, TO COLLABORATE. CAUSE I KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA PROVIDED A DOCUMENT, SO I'LL LET YOU GUYS WORK THROUGH THAT. WELL, COMMISSIONER DUSKY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY UPFRONT REGARDING YOUR, YOUR PROPOSAL? WELL, I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD WRITTEN DOWN THERE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS SORT OF LIKE MY GAMBIT LAST YEAR. AND I SAID, OKAY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE SHOULD BE ENHANCING WITH? UH, SO I WENT AHEAD AND MADE THOSE CHANGES AND, UM, AND, UH, I SENT IT OUT TO EVERYBODY IN THE WORKING GROUP. AND, UM, IF YOU WANT, I CAN GO THROUGH WITH IT, LIKE, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THE ROLLOUT UPGRADES, MY CARRIERS. I SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, WE SHOULD BE CONNECTING WITH THE CARRIERS AT REGULAR INTERVALS. I MEAN, THEY SEEM TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE THAT. SO IN FUTURE, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING MORE OFTEN. UM, SO IF I GO DOWN THE, THE, UH, DOCUMENT THAT, UH, CHAMPIONS HAS, UH, ON, UH, ON THE SCREEN, SO LET'S GO DOWN THAT AND [01:05:01] SEE HOW WE CAN, UH, MODIFY THAT AND THEN MAPPING ALL THE THINGS THAT I HAVE SEEN, UM, PROVIDE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR HIGH-TECH COMPANIES MOVING INTO AUSTIN TO ENABLE CITY-WIDE THREE HIVE, WIFI HOTSPOTS, CHARGING STATIONS, PUBLIC DEVICES TO USE, ET CETERA. UH, I THINK IT SHOULD STAY, I, THIS, YOU KNOW, NOTHING MORE I CAN SAY, EXCEPT ONE COMMENT. WHEN YOU SAY CHARGING STATIONS, SHOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT CHARGING STATIONS? NOT JUST LIKE TELEKOM, BUT SINCE WE TALK ABOUT COSTING TRANSPORTATION, SHOULD IT BE CHARGING STATIONS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS WELL? I THINK SO. OKAY. SO MAYBE YOU CAN EDIT THAT AND SAYING CHARGING STATION IN PARENTHESES FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS DEVICES, AS WELL AS ELECTRIC CARS. DOES EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT? THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE WORKING GROUP. DO YOU AGREE THAT MIGHT BE THE PURVIEW OF ANOTHER COMMISSION? UM, THAT WOULD, I MEAN, THAT IS, UH, THAT'S DEF DEFINITELY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD, UH, KIND OF IMPACT, UH, AUSTIN ELECTRIC, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT CONNECTION AND, UH, ADD TO THEIR LOAD. SO THIS IS, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING THERE, BUT, UH, THIS MIGHT BE A PART OF WHAT WE DO ABOUT REACHING OUT TO OTHER COMMISSIONS AND SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THIS? SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE OUR, UH, OUR ACTION ITEM THERE. WELL, LET ME WAIT ON THAT REAL QUICKLY. UM, JUST AN UPDATE. SO I ATTENDED THE INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE CONFERENCE TWO WEEKS AGO, DOWNTOWN, AND, UH, IT WAS CO-SPONSORED BY THE AUTONOMY INSTITUTE. AND AT THIS EVENT, I SAT IN ON A PRESENTATION BY THE CIO OF PHILADELPHIA, AND HE DESCRIBED A COLLABORATION WITH THEIR PUBLIC ENERGY PARTNER, THEIR PICO, WHERE THEY ENABLED A PEN INSTALLATION OF STREETLIGHTS WITH THE ENERGY PARTNER. UH, AND IT SOUNDED WONDERFUL. I WANTED HIM, UH, ENGAGED HIM, ASKED HIM IF HE COULD CONNECT US WITH THE FOLKS, UH, THAT GOT IT DONE, AND HE'S ALREADY DONE IT. AND THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED TO MEET WITH US. UH, WE'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING THAT MEETING, UH, THEY APPARENTLY LEARNED FROM CHICAGO, UH, IN ORDER TO GET IT DONE. UH, AND, UH, I'VE ALREADY BEEN CONNECTED WITH THE CEO AND PRESIDENT OF THE PENNSYLVANIA ENERGY AUTHORITY, UH, WHO IS GOING TO BE AT THIS MEETING AS WELL. SO I BROUGHT THAT UP TO SAY THAT IT'S DEFINITELY INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, AND, UH, TO ME, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY ENGAGING IN THE KIND OF WORK TO THE COLLABORATIONS. UH, YOU KNOW, GRANTED, THIS IS A COLLABORATION WITH AN ENERGY COMPANY AND, AND A CITY THAT ENABLED THE SAME TYPE OF WORK TO BE DONE. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MODEL WE'RE LOOKING FOR EXAMPLES OF GETTING IT DONE. YES. JUST A QUICK NOTE. UM, I'M NOT MUSTERING ENERGY IN PLACE, SO I CAN'T SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF, BUT I JUST AM AWARE THAT THEY DO HAVE A CHARGING STATION PROGRAM. AUSTIN ENERGY DOES, UM, THAT IS RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS. ONE IS A SUBSCRIPTION, A MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION, OR YOU CAN PAY BY MINUTES OR THEIR MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION IS $4 AND 17 CENTS PER MONTH FOR UNLIMITED CHARGING AT ANY OF THEIR CHARGING STATIONS. AND, UH, THEY ALSO HAVE A DIFFERENT, UH, YOU KNOW, A PER MINUTE PROGRAM WHERE IT'S, UH, 21 CENTS PER MINUTE AT ANY OF THEIR CHARGING STATIONS. SO I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON TO DEPLOY MORE ELECTRIC CAR CHARGING STATIONS. UM, AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY MONETIZING IT. THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A BRIEFING. UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT ONE, WE NEED TO PULL THEM IN TO OUR CONVERSATION WITH, ON THE TOPIC OF INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT. BUT WE NEED TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHERE THEY SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR VISION IS FOR THIS. UH, AND IF THEY SEE THIS COLLABORATION FOLDING THAT'S IN THE WORKS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING [01:10:01] FOR, YOU KNOW, AN MOU TO BE SIGNED. WE KNOW WE'RE ON THE VERGE OF SHOWING FORMAL SUPPORT AS A BODY. UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT POWER HAS TO BE SENT TO THESE LOCATIONS. SO IT'S PROVED FOR US TO KNOW HOW AUSTIN ANGIE SITS, I GUESS, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, METERS. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, UM, ALL OF THIS MONEY THAT'S COMING DOWN FROM WASHINGTON FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. AND I WAS WONDERING, UM, A LOT OF THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING ALLOCATED TO THE MUNICIPALITIES CITIES, STATES COUNTIES. AND SO I WAS WONDERING, DO WE KNOW IF THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS CREATED SOME TYPE OF PLAN, UM, TO REQUEST ANY OF THIS FUNDING AND HOW IT WILL BE ALLOCATED AND USED THROUGHOUT THE CITY? BECAUSE I MEAN, THE BILL IS HUGE, BUT THAT THIS IS THE PURPOSE FOR THAT MONEY. AND, UM, AND, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDS OUT VERY QUICKLY. UM, UM, WHEN I SAY THEY, I MEAN CONGRESS, AND SO THEY WANT THOSE FUNDS TO CONGRESS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. THEY WANT THOSE FUNDS TO BE ALLOCATED AND USED, LIKE WITHIN THE UPCOMING, UM, FYS. AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF PLAN FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WHICH OF COURSE SHOULD INCLUDE COLLABORATION ACROSS, UM, ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, PERHAPS, UM, UNIVERSITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WANTING WITH THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHO IS SPEARHEADING THAT, AND IF THE CITY HAS REACTED TO THAT FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'M GOING TO PIVOT AND GIVE A JESSIE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THAT ONE FOR US. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON HOW THE CITY IS COORDINATING, UH, FEDERAL GRANT DOLLARS OR APPLICATIONS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S, UM, SOME WORK HAPPENING IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THERE'S SOME WORK HAPPENING IN THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. UM, BUT I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SO I, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO IT WELL, UH, ONE SECOND, BEFORE YOU RESPOND OR CHIME IN THERE, I WANT TO RESPOND TO WHAT COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SAID. I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION. AND IN FACT, UM, I AM WANT FOR FEEDBACK ON THIS VERY ISSUE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FEEL AS THOUGH WE SHOULD BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN AS A COMMISSION IS THE CREATION OF THE NEW STRATEGIC, DIGITAL INCLUSION PLAN. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WHICH WE'RE STILL KIND OF ON THE OUTSIDE WAITING TO BE INVOLVED DIRECTLY IN. AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, WE HAVE DEDICATED RESOURCES WORKING ON THIS. SO I DEFINITELY AM WANT FOR ANSWERS. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BILL THERE'S FUNDS FOR ALL OF THAT BROADBAND AND, AND IT, YOU KNOW, AND TO ME, WHAT I FIND TO BE COMPELLING ABOUT IT IS WHAT THEY CALL , WHICH IS WHERE THEY WANT TO DEDICATE A LARGE PORTION, THAT 40% OF THE FUNDS TOWARDS ECONOMIC JUSTICE TYPE INITIATIVES. SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY WANT THESE FUNDS TO BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, IN WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE MAKING SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO RURAL AREAS, IT'S GOING TO, UM, DISADVANTAGE AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO IT'S UP TO, IT'S UP TO US AS, AS, UM, RESIDENTS OF THIS COUNTRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT US ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES, BECAUSE IT CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. IT CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE MOST THERE'S FUNDING FOR IT AND THAT BILL IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HATE FOR THE CITY TO SLEEP ON THAT. YOU AND ME, BOTH YOU AND ME, BOTH, UH, ONE OF THE, I ASSUME ONE OF THE MAJOR ONES YOU REFERRING TO IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND INVESTMENT JOBS ACT. OKAY. OKAY. UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY USE CASES, UH, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY IF WE WERE TO PURSUE THEM, BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE, UH, JESSE A CHANCE TO RESPOND WITH WHAT, WHAT OUR BEST PATH OF ACTION IS HERE, UH, TO GET THE ANSWERS WE NEED AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN, CAN ADVANCE THIS OBJECTIVE. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS THERE. UH, [01:15:01] WE, WE ARE KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT THE, UM, THE JOBS ACT, UH, AND INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING. UH, THOSE ARE BEING DISTRIBUTED TO MY KNOWLEDGE AT THE STATE LEVEL, UH, THERE, SO THERE'S CHUNKS OF MONEY THAT'S BEING ALLOCATED TO EVERY STATE. UM, THE PORTION FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS IS BEING HANDLED AS IT RELATES TO, UH, INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE BY, UH, A NEWLY CREATED, UH, UNIT OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT, UM, THE BROADBAND OFFICE. UH, AND SO THAT OFFICE IS GOING TO BE, UH, DETERMINING WHERE AND HOW MUCH TO SPEND THAT FUNDING. UH, WE ARE ENGAGED WITH THAT OFFICE. UH, SO THOSE, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE ONGOING. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE IN HOW THE STATE IS GOING TO DECIDE TO SPEND THE FUNDING FUNDING. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW IS, UH, IF THEY'RE GOING TO SERVE, UH, UNDERSERVED AREAS OR UNSERVED AREAS, THE INITIAL INDICATION WAS THAT THEY'RE LEANING TOWARDS UNSERVED AREAS, WHICH WOULD MOVE MORE FUNDING, UH, TO THE RURAL AREAS, WHICH DON'T HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND WOULD LIMIT AUSTIN'S OPPORTUNITIES IN TERMS OF, UH, RECEIVING FUNDING. UH, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A FINAL DECISION THAT'S BEEN MADE BY ANY MEANS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE ONGOING FOR SURE. UM, SO WHERE WE'RE STILL WORKING, UH, ON THE BACKEND TO DEVELOP REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES IN THE AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING, UH, COORDINATED STRATEGIES AROUND THIS, REGARDLESS OF, UH, HOW THE HOW THE FUNDING ITSELF DOES PAN OUT. BUT, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT IS ONGOING. UM, I PERSONALLY CAME TO GET A, YOU KNOW, A COMPLETE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THIS JOBS ACT COVERS A HUGE, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF AREAS OF INTEREST BROADBAND. BROADBAND IS ONE OF THEM. PHYSICAL TRANSPORTATION IS ANOTHER TRAINING IS ANOTHER IN ORDER FOR YOU TO SUPPORT JOBS OF THE FUTURE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WHETHER THERE IS A SINGLE AUTHORITY AT THE CITY MANAGER LEVEL. WHO'S BEEN TASKED TO SAY COVER THE ENTIRE GAMUT OF THINGS THAT THE CITY NEEDS THAT WE COULD, UH, THAT WE COULD GET A SLICE OFF OF THIS, UH, JOBS APP SO THAT IT COVERS EVERY ITEM ON OUR LIST. WE DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER. AND I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL ASPECTS OF IT. I DO KNOW THAT I'M IN THE, UH, THE ATP, THE AUSTRIAN TRANSIT PROJECT, WHICH IS PROJECT CONNECT. AND THERE WE WERE, WE HAD A MEETING I'M IN THE FINANCIAL RISK ASSESSMENT COMMITTEE. AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EXACTLY THIS TOPIC YESTERDAY, WHERE WE THINK THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT UP TO 50% OF THE FUNDING FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECT CONNECT PROJECTS, MAYBE AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS JOBS ACT AND THEY'RE MAKING A PLAY FOR IT. AND ATD IS PLAYING A ROLE IN IT AS PART OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THE SHARE OF IT, A CAP METRO IS INVOLVED IN IT. AND OF COURSE, ADP IS, UH, UH, SORT OF LIKE THE, UH, THE, THE COMPOSITE WITH HARDY TO MAKE PROJECT CONNECT HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, 10, 15 YEARS. SO THAT'S ONLY ONE PIECE OF IT. I NEED, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH ARE WE GOING TO BE EFFECTING FOR JOB TRAINING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, BROADBAND, YOU NAME IT. I AGREE. I AGREE. I THINK THAT WE, IT SOUNDS LIKE CAN LEARN FROM OUR MEETING WITH JESSE JOHN MICHAEL, IN TERMS OF, YOU DID SAY TRANSPORTATION, CORRECT ATP THAT'S PROBATION IS ONE ASPECT OF IT. BROADBAND IS ANOTHER JOB TRAINING IS ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE TOUCHING ON ALL OF THESE IN THIS COMMISSION. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IN A, HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED? HOW BIG IS THE CHOIR? HOW MUCH OF THAT PIE CAN WE ASSUME CAN BE USED TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? SO THE ONE PERSON WHO SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT IS THE CITY MANAGER. IF I WERE IN HIS SHOES, I WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY ONE OF HIS ASSISTANT MANAGER CITY MANAGER SAY YOUR JOB IS TO GET AS MUCH OF THE FUNDING AS POSSIBLE, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE WANTING TO DO. SO WHO IS THAT PERSON WHO'S TASKED TO LEAD THIS EFFORT? BECAUSE THIS IS A ONE IN A GENERATION ONCE IN A GENERATION TYPE OF EFFORT. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT IS REALLY BEING PUT IN LANES [01:20:01] BASED UPON WHETHER IT'S TRANSPORTATION OR IT'S HELD THE HUMAN SERVICES, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'VE GOT A LANE FOCUS. SO PERHAPS IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO ENGAGE THE CITY MANAGER FOR SOME DIRECTION. I'M NOT SURE ALTERNATIVELY, WHO WOULDN'T ENGAGE FIRST, UH, WITHOUT STARTING AT A DEPARTMENT LEVEL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WITH A PARTNER LIKE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION OR, UH, YOU KNOW, CAP METRO AROUND PRODUCT CONNECT, FOR EXAMPLE. SO I'M OPEN TO THOUGHTS, UM, WHERE WE, WHERE OUR BEST PATH IS DO WE START WITH THE CITY MANAGER OR WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? I WAS STARTING SOMEONE AT THE CITY LEVEL, SORRY, MR. THOMPSON. I WOULD START WITH SOMEONE AT THE CITY LEVEL, BECAUSE AS JESSE SAID, A LOT OF THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE STATE. AND SO THE STATE WILL ISSUE OUT GRANTS IF YOU WILL, TO THE CITIES AND TO THE COLLABORATIONS. UM, BUT ALSO SOME OF THOSE FUNDS, THE CITY CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE FEDS AND APPLY FOR ALSO ALL OF THEM HAVE NOT COME OUT YET. THEY'RE STILL ISSUING GUIDANCES FOR A LOT OF IT. BUT, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE THE, THE BILL, THE BILL IS OVER A THOUSAND PAGES. AND SO IT INCLUDES ALMOST EVERY ASPECT OF OUR SOCIETY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S THERE. WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY. UH, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DON'T. UM, SO I PROPOSE THEN I GUESS THAT WE BEGIN BY CONFIRMING OR VALIDATING WHAT FUNDING SOURCES, TERROR, OR CTD IS APPLYING FOR OR AWARE OF, UH, AND THEN USE THAT TO BUILD FROM, AS WE APPROACH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ABOUT THIS, BUT AT LEAST WE'LL BE INFORMED WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN OUR WING. THAT WOULD BE NICE TO START. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. SO WHAT CAN THE CITY ACTUALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION UNTIL THE QUESTION IS RESOLVED AT THE STATE LEVEL AS TO WHETHER THE EMPHASIS IS GOING TO BE ON RURAL OR, UH, URBAN AREAS THAT ARE UNDERSERVED. AND, UH, IT SEEMS, UH, FROM WHAT JESSE WAS SAYING IS THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF, UH, BEING, UH, POINTED TOWARDS RURAL AREAS ONLY. SO, UH, WHAT'S THE CHANCE OF, OF THE CITY ACTUALLY GETTING, UH, SOME KIND OF FUNDING FOR UNDERSERVED AREAS, UH, YEAH. TO BE CLEAR THAT THOSE DECISIONS ARE STILL BEING MADE. SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THE THERE'S NO CHANCE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO RECEIVE FUNDING, UH, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE ENGAGED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SO, UM, YEAH, W I GUESS THE SHORT ANSWER WOULD BE THAT WE'LL WERE VERY MUCH ENGAGED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WOULD NOTIFY THE COMMISSION AS SOON AS WE HAVE SOME INDICATION AS TO WHAT THE POSSIBILITY SPACE IS RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAM ISN'T CREATED YET, UH, THE, THE TEXAS STATE PROGRAM THAT, THAT WILL GRANT FUNDING, UH, YOU KNOW, PASS THROUGH FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IT'S NOT CREATED YET. SO, UM, BUT WE'RE KEEPING OUR EYES ON IT AND, AND WE'RE INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. HM. AND COMMISSIONER GATES KEEP, KEEP AN OPEN MIND BECAUSE THE FEDS ARE ALLOWING THE ENTITIES TO, TO FIND UNDERSERVED DISADVANTAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE IS NOT ONE PRESCRIPTIVE WAY OF THINKING OF IT. AND SO WHENEVER WHOEVER THIS ENTITY IS, W WHOEVER, UM, THE, THE, THE FUNDING ENTITY IS THAT WE'LL FUND THEM, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CREATE WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS ARE IN WHO THEY, WHO, AND OF COURSE IT'S ALL POLITICAL, OF COURSE. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE, BUT WE SHOULDN'T GIVE UP ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN NOT GETTING ANY OF THAT YET. I SURE. JESSE, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, ANY IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, ANY SENSE ON, UH, TIMING ON WHEN, [01:25:02] UH, THE GUIDANCE OR THE FUNDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WILL BE RELEASED TO AT LEAST WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT, UM, A TIMEFRAME THAT WE'RE SORT OF MARCHING TOWARDS AS A COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE CITY. SO WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. UM, I'M, I'M NOT THE PERSON WHO'S DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS. SO I, I, I CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP, BUT INITIALLY WE WERE BEING TOLD TO BE SHOVEL-READY, UM, FOR SUP THE SUMMER, UM, MORE RECENTLY, I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT STARTING TO GET PUSHED BACK. UH, SO IT, YEAH, I, I THINK THAT THE SUMMER PROJECTION WAS A LITTLE BIT AMBITIOUS. UM, WE WERE THINKING, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY AS FAR OUT AS A YEAR FROM NOW. UM, BUT YEAH, AGAIN, THOSE DATES HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN SET, BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF THE EARLY INDICATIONS THAT WE'RE HEARING FOR JESSE. UH, ONE SECOND THOUGH, BEFORE WE GO TO THAT AND WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, WHAT'S OUR FAIL SAFE, RIGHT? W HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO GET THIS FUNDING MECHANISM SET UP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE? I'VE NOTICED A PATTERN, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TEXAS DOESN'T ALWAYS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF FEDERAL FUNDS. NOW THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO, WE NEED TO KNOW THE QUESTION WE MUST KNOW, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IF WE DO NOTHING FOR THIS, FROM OUR PART AS CHAIR, WE DID NOTHING BESIDES MAKE SURE TO CALL OUT THE DEADLINE FOR WHEN IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE WORKING TO GET SOMETHING DONE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE GO DOWN AND WE GO DOWN SWINGING, RIGHT. SO LET'S, PLEASE TRY TO FIND A WAY TO CONFIRM THE DEADLINES. YEAH. AND, UH, ONE ADDITIONAL NOTE, UM, THERE'S MANY ISSUES THAT I THINK THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, WOULD MOVE SLOWLY ON. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT ON THIS TOPIC. UM, I THINK THAT THE STATE IS INVESTING, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STAFFING THIS EFFORT. UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE INVESTING, YOU KNOW, MONEY, UH, IN CREATING A PLAN. UM, SO I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT THE, THE STATE IS GOING TO LET WALK BY. UM, BUT THERE IS THE CONCERN AS TO HOW THE STATE IS GOING TO SPEND AND, AND, AND DIVIDE THOSE RESOURCES WITHIN THE STATE. OKAY. ANY MORE THOUGHTS HERE? YEAH. UM, JUST FOR US AS A COMMISSION, I THINK THAT IN LIGHT OF THAT, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT, THEY DEFINITELY WANT SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS. I THINK IT WOULD BE WHO'VE US THAT IF WE, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING HERE, LIKE, LIKE THE PIN THING, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO HELP GET IMPLEMENTED, WE'D WANT TO MAKE SET THAT AS A PRIORITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROJECT IS FULLY FLESHED OUT. SO IF IT FITS INTO THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM, THEN IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT TO GET FUNDED, BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE CONSTRAINTS AROUND THE FUNDING. RIGHT. AND, UM, AND, AND I KNOW THAT WITH THE AGENCY, THE FEDERAL AGENCY THAT I HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR PROJECTS WILL BE MULTI-YEAR. SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE SHOT OF MONEY IN THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY LARGE POOL OF FUNDS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO HELP, WHOEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH. LET'S GET THIS TOGETHER, LET'S FLESH IT OUT SO THAT WE CAN GET IT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, SO THAT IT IS READY TO BE FUNDED. AND THEN WE KNOW THAT THAT MONEY COULD GO TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT. THAT'S WELL PUT, AND I AGREE. COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY THE STEPS ARE IN PLACE TO, TO PUT US ON THE WAY TO DO THAT. I THINK OUR PENDING CONVERSATION WITH, UH, THE PENNSYLVANIA ENERGY AUTHORITY, UH, ALONG WITH, UH, JASON, JOHN, MICHAEL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO HELP, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, PARTICULARLY AS RELATES TO PINS, UH, OUR PENDING CONVERSATION WITH CHARLES PRAMOD AS WELL, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, OUR OPEN DATA GROUP IS GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THAT. SO I THINK THAT WE BASICALLY HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO, TO MAKE THAT A QUICK PRIORITY AND THEN TO TAKE QUICK STEPS. OKAY. SO, UH, WHAT I ANTICIPATE IS THAT AS LATE AS, UH, OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO START ACTUALLY LOOKING AT [01:30:02] A DRAFT OF A COUPLE OF THESE RESOLUTIONS AND TO SPEAK TO THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THEM IN THE WORKING GROUPS. WE'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF PAGES OF AN MOU, UH, IN OUR TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND APROPOS AND INNOVATION WORKING GROUP, WHERE WE HAVE A GOOD FRAMEWORK. WE HAVEN'T QUITE GOTTEN TO THAT YET, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST KIND OF JUMP TO THAT. UM, UH, YES, I'M SORRY. YEAH. THIS ONE WAS USUALLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER. SURE, SURE. I THINK WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY GOT TWO MOVING PARTS. WE HAVE TO LOCK THEM. IT'S LIKE TWO GEARS THAT ARE ROTATING AT HIGH SPEED, AND THEY'RE NOT QUITE CONNECTED HERE. THE IS GOING, LET'S ASSUME LET'S GET THEM CREDITED. THEY'RE MOVING, YOU KNOW, DO SPEED TO PUT THIS GROUP TOGETHER SO THEY CAN GO GRAB THE MONEY. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PRIORITIES THEY'RE USING TO GET THE MONEY. WHAT IS IN THAT LIST OF THINGS? YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION COULD BE ONE, BROADBAND, COULD BE ANOTHER TRAINING, COULD BE ANOTHER JOBS THAT COULD BE ANOTHER, A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING AFTER WE AT THE CITY SHOULD BE MOVING EQUALLY FAST, IF NOT FASTER, TO COME UP WITH THE GROUPS OF MONIES THAT WE NEED. ONE FOR BROADBAND, ONE FOR THE ROADS, ONE FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, TRAINS AND BUSES AND THIS AND THAT AS WELL AS FOR JOB TRAINING. AND THEN EACH OF THOSE LISTS, WE SHOULD HAVE A PRIORITIZED LIST OF THINGS SAYING IF WE GOT ONLY A BILLION DOLLARS, THIS IS WHAT GOES, IF HE GOT $2 BILLION, THIS IS WHAT GOES IN. IT'S THREE, IT'S THIS. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THAT LIST WITH LINES DRAWN ACROSS, SAY A 1 BILLION. THIS IS WHAT GOES IN FOR 2 BILLION. THIS IS WHAT GOES IN 3 BILLION. THIS IS HOW IT GOES IN. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CITY NEEDS TO CREATE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE MESSAGE WE NEED TO PASS ONTO THE CITY MANAGER. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT I WOULD ADD THAT IS A NEED FOR AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF, OF THEIR VISION. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF WE'RE THE FIRST COMMISSION TO BRING THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER AT THIS TOPIC OR THESE FUNDS. SO I'D BE DISAPPOINTED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THAT HAPPENED TO BE THE CASE, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WERE OFFERING SOME INSIGHTS HERE TODAY AND CAN OFFER MORE. AND I THINK THAT IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO HAVE, AS WE DISCUSSED WITH OTHER AREAS TO HAVE NEEDS CHALLENGES AND WHATNOT, OUTLINED AS DATA POINTS. SO WE CAN MAP SOLUTIONS AND RESOURCES TO THEM, RIGHT. THOSE RESOURCES AND SOLUTIONS HAVE BUDGETARY NEEDS AND ALLOTMENTS. AND SO THAT BASICALLY ALIGNS TO THE SAME KIND OF THOUGHT PROCESS THAT YOU'RE ON WHEN WE HAVE REQUESTS FOR GRANT FUNDING OR FOR FEDERAL DOLLARS ALIGNED TO DIFFERENT AREAS. UM, SO I AGREE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE THOUGHTS ON WHAT THE COMMISSION DUSKY GIVE? JUST SHARE? OKAY. WELL, ALL I WAS GOING TO DO, UM, BEFORE WE'D STARTED CHATTING ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY WAS TO PIVOT TO, UM, ANOTHER OBJECTIVE HERE, BUT LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE. UM, LET'S JUST GO BACK TO THE ORDER. SO I HAD A COMMENT THAT, UH, I WANTED TO ADD TO COMMISSIONER DUSK, GOOPED HIS LIST OF ITEMS AND THAT IT'S ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR A CLARIFICATION. AND SO AT SOME POINT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD. MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER TWO TO THE OBJECTIVE. NUMBER TWO HERE, IF WE'RE ON THE SAME DOCUMENT, CONTINUE TO MONITOR GOOGLE FIBER DEPLOYMENT. WELL, THIS IS ON A COMMISSIONER. DUSK GOOPED IS A WORK GROUP DOCUMENT THERE. SO, YEAH. UH, BUT OKAY. JUST TO BE CLEAR, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ALL HAVE THAT DOCUMENT. YEAH. SO WHAT HE WANTED TO DO US TO DO IS TO SPEAK TO THE ONE THAT WAS SENT TO EVERYONE. HE WAS GONNA SPEAK TO HIS CHANGES, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, UH, YEAH, I THINK WE STICK WITH THE MAIN DOCUMENT WE INTEGRATE THE CRISPR DASGUPTA IS CHANGES INTO IT. OKAY. SO I GUESS, WELL, COMMISSIONER TELESCOPE IS BACK NOW. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU MADE? NUMBER TWO ON YOUR DOCUMENT, AND THEN WE CAN SEE HOW IT INTEGRATES WITH THE MASTER DOCUMENT. OKAY. SO, UH, LET'S SEE. YOU MEAN THE POINT NUMBER TWO IN MY LIST, YOUR SECOND OBJECTIVE AFTER PROVIDE PARTNERSHIPS. [01:35:04] OKAY. SO ITEM NUMBER TWO, ON MY LIST, REALLY LINES UP WITH ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ROLL OUT UPDATES BACK AREAS TO INTERCONNECT TECHNOLOGY, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREAS WHERE THE CITY IS UPGRADING ITS OLD INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I SAID IN PARENTHESES, WE SHOULD BE CONNECTING WITH THE CARRIERS AT REGULAR INTERVALS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF PROGRESS THEY'RE MAKING. RIGHT. SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT OBJECTIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BY ADDING A LITTLE BIT. SO IN YOUR NUMBER TWO WAS HOW MIGHT THE COMMISSION WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE CARRIERS TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY AND THE CARRIER IS COOPERATE TO COORDINATE CARRIER INFRASTRUCTURE, UPGRADES, AND EXPANSIONS WITH THE CITY CORRIDOR AND MOBILITY PROJECTS. SO THAT WAS JUST GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION AND DETAIL AS TO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I LIKED THE WORDING THAT YOU USE. SO SHOULD WE REPLACED, WHAT IS NUMBER FIVE IN THE DOCUMENT THAT IS ON THE SCREEN AND THEN REPLACE NUMBER FIVE WITH THE WORDS THAT YOU USE? I LIKE THEM. OKAY. ONE THING I WANT TO CLARIFY FOR EVERYONE AS WELL, WHEN I LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT NOW, FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T ALL HAVE THIS DOCUMENT. THAT'S ONE CHALLENGE. BUT THE EMAIL THAT I SENT IN RESPONSE TO THIS DOCUMENT, I WAS MEANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING BECAUSE WE HAVE COMMISSION CHALLENGE STATEMENTS, WHICH ARE FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSION, AND THEN WE HAVE OBJECTIVES WHICH ARE FOR THE WORKING GROUP, RIGHT? SO, UH, FOR THIS DISCUSSION, AT LEAST FOR THE OBJECTIVE DISCUSSION, WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE BOTTOM, NOT THE QUESTIONS DESPERATE, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANT IT TO, BECAUSE OF WHAT IT WAS AN ARTIFACT FROM THE PAST, I SHOULD HAVE DELETED, WELL, COMMISSIONER GATES BROUGHT UP WAS THE QUESTION, WHICH WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON TODAY, AT LEAST NOT NOW AT THIS PART. UM, SO, BUT THAT SCROLL DOWN BELOW, LIKE YOU SAID, A ROLLOUT OF UPGRADES BY CARRIERS TO INTER CONNECT, BUT THERE WAS A DIFFERENT PHRASING GIVEN THAT BY COMMISSIONER GATES. RIGHT. SO WE COULD INCLUDE THAT, UH, THAT VERBIAGE IN THE NUMBER FIVE OF THE MAIN DOCUMENT HERE. AND JUST SAY THAT, UH, WHAT WE WANT IT IS COOPERATION BETWEEN THE CARRIERS AND THE CITY SO THAT THE CARRIER UPGRADES AND EXPANSIONS WILL COORDINATE WITH THE CITIES PROJECTS, UH, THE CORRIDOR PROJECTS AND THE MOBILITY PROJECTS. OKAY. SO IS THAT SOMETHING WHICH YOU'RE COMFORTABLE EDITING JESSIE FOR US OR SO WE HAVE ONE MASTER DOCUMENT THAT INCLUDES THAT. SURE. UH, COMMISSIONER YATES, COULD YOU READ BACK THAT, UH, WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED FOR THE EDITS NUMBER FIVE? OKAY. SO THE CITY AND CARRIERS WOULD COORDINATE, SO THAT CARRIER INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES AND EXPANSIONS WILL COINCIDE WITH CITY CORRIDOR AND MOBILITY PROJECTS. OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT I ADDED THAT LANGUAGE THERE AS IT WAS WRITTEN TO THE RECORD, BUT I CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND REVIEW THE RECORDING AS WELL. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU, JESSE. UM, OKAY. WELL, [01:40:02] THE, UH, NUMBER ONE YOU HAD WAS NUMBER IS NUMBER TWO ON, ON THE MASTER DOCUMENT HERE, CONTINUE TO MONITOR GOOGLE FIBER DEPLOYMENT IN AUSTIN. AND, UH, AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE'VE HAD ONGOING OUTREACH WITH GOOGLE FIBER, INCLUDING, UH, MOST RECENTLY ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE CONNECTIVITY PROGRAM. WELL, I CONNECTED WITH THEIR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS LEAD, UH, ANOTHER JOHN MICHAEL, BUT LET ME MAKE SURE I GET IT CORRECT. RIGHT, JOHN? UH, NO, JOHN MICHAEL CORTEZ. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. UH, JOHN MICHAEL COURT SAYS, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO SCHEDULE A MEETING. I WANT IT TO, I'M ACTUALLY REALLY GLAD THAT I'M DELAYED THAT MEETING UNTIL AFTER THIS WORKING GROUP MEETING, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I HOPE TO TALK TO JASON OR, UH, TO, UH, TO JOHN MICHAEL RATHER ABOUT, UH, IS, UH, DISCUSSION ON BROADBAND STANDARDS. AND I WANTED TO, TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE WHOLE GROUP. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BRIEFLY IN DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS, IN RELATION TO THE, UH, BISMAL FCC STANDARD FOR BROADBAND AS IT EXISTS TODAY. UH, THIS WAS, UH, A REQUEST BY COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA THAT WAS IN DIRECT ALIGNMENT WITH MY THOUGHTS. I THINK THE THOUGHTS OF MANY PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THE BISMAL, THE CURRENT STANDARDS ARE, AND THE THOUGHT WAS THAT AS A COMMISSION, WE WOULD LEAD WITH A PROPOSED STANDARD FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UM, AND, AND SO, OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT'S EVOLVED INTO. THAT'S WHAT THE IDEAS EVOLVED INTO THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PROPOSED BROADBAND STANDARD UP AND DOWN THAT WE WOULD AGREE TO. UH, WE WOULD INVOLVE ALL OF THE LOCAL CARRIERS AND SETTING THAT STANDARD IN THAT WE WOULD ENGAGE THEM ABOUT OUR EFFORT TO CREATE A STANDARD AND ALLOW THEM TO HAVE INPUT ON WHAT THE STANDARDS SHOULD BE. UM, WE KNOW THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A PROPOSAL MADE BY, AT AND T TO INPUT A STANDARD OF A HUNDRED UP AND 10 DOWN OR A HUNDRED UP A HUNDRED DOWN. I FORGET EXACTLY RIGHT AT THE MINUTE. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, BUT IT'S A HUNDRED, IT'S 101 HUNDRED DOWN, BUT IT'S 110, A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED, BUT, BUT THE POINT IS THAT THEY'RE SHOWING SOME LEADERSHIP IN THIS SPACE. UM, NOW WITHSTANDING OF COURSE, THAT THEY'VE GOT PROFIT DRIVEN MOTIVES. SO, UH, WELL THEY'D GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW LEADERSHIP, UH, NOTWITHSTANDING THEIR BUSINESS MODELS. UH, BUT ONE WHEREIN WE CAN ENCOURAGE COMPETITION, RIGHT? WE CAN ENCOURAGE COMPETITION AMONGST CARRIERS TO A STANDARD THAT WE THINK IS SUITABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND, AND, UH, THAT I THINK IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HOPE TO GET OUT OF MY FIRST CONVERSATION WITH, UH, JOHN MICHAEL CORTEZ IS WHAT THEY, WHAT GOOGLE ENVISIONS AS A POTENTIAL FAIR STANDARD. UH, AND THEN FRANKLY, JUST TO TAKE THAT TO THE NEXT PROVIDER AND SAY, WELL, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK, YOU KNOW, FROM EARLIER CONVERSATIONS, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE DYNAMICS PLAY OUT WHERE THEY SEEM EAGER, UH, TO DEMONSTRATE CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO PROVE THAT. SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THIS COULD MEAN. SO AS A NEXT STEP, THAT MEETING WITH GOOGLE, UH, AND THEN, UH, SIMILAR MEETINGS WITH OTHER PROVIDERS, UH, AND, OR INTEGRATING FEEDBACK FROM MEETINGS THAT OTHERS HAVE HAD WITH OTHER PROVIDERS, RIGHT? SO THAT INCLUDES COTON, UH, THAT INCLUDES, UH RHONDELLA. AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO INTEGRATING THAT THOSE DATA POINTS AND INSIGHTS TOO, BUT THE OBJECTIVE WOULD BE THAT EVERY PROVIDER THAT SERVES THE AUSTIN AREA WOULD BE ADDRESSED ON THIS MATTER AND WOULD EITHER HAVE INPUT OR NOT. AND WE GO FROM THERE. YES. WHY SHARE, UH, CHERRY PITS? I'M WONDERING IF PART OF THAT MEETING WITH GOOGLE, IF YOU WERE PLAYING TO BRING UP ANY OF THE FINDINGS FROM OUR COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSIONS SPECIFICALLY, UM, THE COMMUNITY'S [01:45:01] FEEDBACK ON GOOGLE? UH, YES, YES, INDEED. UH, UH, SAVING THAT FOR THE NEXT WORD GROUP DISCUSSION. UH, BUT DEFINITELY SO, UH, YES, COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA SO, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING ON THE, IN THE DISCUSSION, CAN WE, WE CAN REMOVE TO ANOTHER POINT HERE. YES, YES, YES. WE'RE IN FACT, UH, WE'VE GOT GAVIN AS THE NEXT POINT ON THE MASTER DOCUMENT. SO NUMBER 8, 3 8 ADVOCATE ADVOCATE FOR THE USE OF THE GAP NETWORK LEADS AND RESIDENT ACCESS TO THE INTERNET. I THINK WE'VE KIND OF BEATEN THAT HORSE DEAD. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN MAKE ANY PROGRESS ON THAT ONE. I'M GOING TO OFFER THE BIKE NOW TO TO COMMENT ON THAT AS TO WHETHER IT'S WORTH HAVING IT THERE. I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONTINUING CITIZEN OVERSIGHT OF EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM TO THE GREATEST EXTENT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES TO UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. NOW, UM, I KNOW FROM WORKING AT THE CITY THAT, UM, THE LIBRARIES REALLY WERE THE FOREFRONT OF THIS AND QUITE EARLY, UH, FREE INTERNET CONNECTIONS WERE GIVEN AT THE LIBRARY AND THEY WERE REALLY UTILIZED BY STUDENTS. UH, YOU COULD SEE EVERY DAY FOUR O'CLOCK THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC ON THE INTERNET WOULD SUDDENLY JUMP BECAUSE ALL THESE STUDENTS WOULD GET OUT OF SCHOOL AND RACE OVER TO THE LIBRARY IN ORDER TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T DO IT AT HOME. AND, UM, ONE OF THE GOALS OF THIS COMMISSION WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, ALL OF THE LIBRARIES WERE UPGRADED TO ONE GIG CONNECTIONS, BECAUSE WHEN I RETIRED, THERE WERE STILL LIKE A HUNDRED MEGABIT. AND SO I THINK THAT, UH, WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO LOOK AND PROVIDE OVERSIGHT OF, UM, THE CITY'S ATTEMPTS TO BREACH THE DIGITAL DIVIDE USING THE GETTING IN NETWORK. BUT IS THAT COVERED BY THREE EIGHT? I MEAN, IF I LOOK AT THE WORDING, IT SAYS EXPANDED RESIDENT ACCENTS, NOT REALLY RESIDENT ACCESS, BUT MAYBE RIGHT. MAYBE WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO CITIZEN ACCESS BECAUSE RESONANT ACCESS WOULD BE PROHIBITED BY TEXAS LAW. NO. RIGHT. OR, OR COMMUNITY ACCESS, OR THAT SEEMS TO BE IN LINE WITH OUR PURVIEW. SO, SO EXPAND I'M OKAY. WITH RESIDENT ACCESS, IF WE ADD THE TERM TRUE CITY OWNED FACILITIES, WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE RESIDENT ACCESS TO THE INTERNET THROUGH CITY OR FACILITY, LIKE YOU GAVE THE EXAMPLE OF THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? YEAH. SO RESIDENT IN THIS TERM, IN THIS CONTEXT WOULD BE MEAN CITIZEN OR RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY REFER TO EXPANDING FREE INTERNET ACCESS TO A RESIDENCE, AN ACTUAL HOUSE. RIGHT. SO, RIGHT. EXACTLY. THE WAY IT READS IS ALMOST IMPLIES THAT. SO I TAUGHT RESIDENT ACCESS TO THE INTERNET THROUGH CITY OWNED FACILITIES. YEAH. RIGHT. UH, RESIDENT OF AUSTIN ACCESS, UH, JESSE HAS A STATEMENT. I'VE GOT A CONCERN. GO AHEAD. JUST A QUICK NOTE THAT THE CITY IS MOVING AWAY FROM USING CITIZEN AND A RESIDENT IN FAVOR OF PUBLIC OR COMMUNITY. UM, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE CONNOTATIONS OF CITIZENSHIP. OKAY. SO YOU'RE THE TRUNK COMMUNITY ACCESS TO THE INTERNET THROUGH CITY ON FACILITIES. YEAH. I'M I SECOND THAT, YEAH. UH, THAT ADDRESSES MY CONCERN. UM, PARTICULARLY SINCE, UH, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT AND ALL THAT, LIKE, LIKE JESSE ALREADY ADDRESSED IT. SO, UM, ONE THING THAT'S INTERESTING AS WELL, UM, [01:50:01] JUST TO CHIME IN ON THIS, UH, FIRST OFF. YES. AND YES, I, I THINK THAT, UH, OUR, OUR BURGEONING, UH, UH, COLLABORATION WITH THE LIBRARY IS GOING TO MAKE THIS A VERY EASY CONVERSATION. UH, I KNOW THAT THEIR GOAL IS TO, TO BE THAT COMMUNITY PARTNER, YOU KNOW, THEIR GOAL IS TO BE THAT COMMUNITY INFORMATION PARTNER, UH, YOU KNOW, AND SO IT'S DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH OUR OBJECTIVE AND, UH, AS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CITY PROPERTIES, IT'D BE NICE THAT WE CAN LIKE, LOOK, HE SUGGESTED, UH, MAKE SURE THEY'VE ALL GOT THE SPEEDS THEY NEED. SO I THINK THAT THAT HAS A CLEAR LINE OF FOLLOW UP THERE. UH, AND I'LL TAKE THAT ON TO REACH, TO ENGAGE WITH EMMY AND EMMY JOHNSON AND, OR, UH, WITH DIRECTOR WEEKS, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF THE OSS PUBLIC LIBRARY, UH, AS FAR AS B IS CONCERNED, UH, FRANKLY, I THINK WE CAN DO MORE. UM, I KNOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF WAITED TO GO, UM, TACTICALLY AND, OR, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD OTHER PRIORITIES WAITED TO GO PRESENT TO GATTON, WAITED TO GO TO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE AS A BODY AND A GATTON MEETING. UH, BUT THESE ARE THINGS I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER, UH, AND WOULD REALLY TAKE THAT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. NO, I AGREE. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, CITY OF BOSTON NETWORKS, SHARING ED GOT AN EVALUATION OF MEANS BY WHICH THE CITY COULD INCENTIVIZE CARRIERS TO PROVIDE UPGRADED SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN USE THAT YOU USE GATTON AS A JOB, GIVEN THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS WITHIN GUTMAN. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. AGAIN, IT'S A PUBLIC ONLY, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CROSS THAT ONE OUT. YEAH. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE DELETED. RIGHT. GREAT. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE FAIR, THIS WAS ADDED LAST YEAR AND OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE LEARNED THAT WE CANNOT USE IT AS A BLOCK. AND SO THAT'S LESSONS LEARNED FOR US, UH, YEAH, EXACTLY. THIS IS INDEED A LEARNING EXERCISE. UM, OKAY. SO THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TRANSITION TO FOUR. UH, AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS KINDA GONNA KIND OF SPEAK TO, UH, THE ISSUE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS A SERVICE EFFICIENCY AND, UH, EQUITY ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENT, INCLUDING, UH, THE IAS PROGRAM, UH, AROUND THE EMERGENCY SERVICES, UH, MOU WITH CAMP MABRY AND BACK TO THE AUTONOMY INSTITUTE. SO THIS, UH, AGAIN, CIRCLES BACK TO OUR WORKING GROUP AND THE DISCUSSION THAT'LL BE NECESSARY TO HAVE IN BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, INCLUDING JASON, JOHN, MICHAEL, CHARLES PERMA, UH, AND, AND OTHERS. UM, SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT. WE ALREADY COVERED FIVE. RIGHT. UM, YEAH. SO THEN JUMP INTO SIX 5G AND SMALL CELL DEPLOYMENT. I ADDED SIX AFTER DOWNTOWN AREA. I SAID, INCLUDING THE ADOPTION OF THE INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROPOSAL AND IN PARENTHESES, I ADDED JEB DECAL OR AUTONOMY AND STUDENTS REFERENCE. RIGHT, RIGHT. LET ME READ THAT AS YOU HAVE IT, UH, 5G AND SMALL CELL DEPLOYMENT BEYOND THE DOWNTOWN AREA, INCLUDING ADOPTION OF INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE PRINTS, THESE SHIFT TO KU AUTONOMY INSTITUTE. UH, SO THAT'S DIRECTLY ALIGNED TO THAT EARLIER OBJECTIVE, UH, WHERE WE KNOW WE'VE GOT CONTACTS AND NEXT STEPS OUTLINED. SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, UH, NUMBER SIX IS THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD A VERB TO ALL OF THESE GOALS. SO FOR THE FIRST ONE, UM, ENCOURAGE 5G AND SMALL CELL DEPLOYMENT. WELL, LET'S, LET'S REMEMBER, UH, THE MASTER DOCUMENT HAS BURBS, UH, WELL, SOME OF THEM, BUT YEAH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT. SO WHAT WAS THAT ON? YOU WERE ON NUMBER SIX. IS THAT RIGHT [01:55:02] GATES OR WAS THAT THAT'S RIGHT? YES. THAT WAS NUMBER SIX, BUT THEN I'D GOT THE SAME COMMENT FOR ALL OF THE ONES AFTER THAT. AND IT'S JUST, UH, FOR, FOR EACH ONE OF THE ONES, SEVEN THROUGH 11, IT'S PROVIDE CITIZEN OVERSIGHT OF, AND THAT SMART CITIES, UH, MOBILITY, YOU KNOW, UPGRADES. RIGHT. SO MONITORING SMART CITIES PROGRESS, MAYBE. YEAH. AND I HAVE AN ADDITION TO THAT ALSO IN REVIEW OF 2022 DASH 2023 INITIATIVES. SO AFTER PROGRESS, JESSE AND REVIEW OF CREDIT TO 2022 DASH 2023 INITIATIVES. GOT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL EIGHT DOES, WELL YOU, RIGHT. IT'S UH, UH, IS THERE A BOURBON THERE? OKAY. THERE MAY BE A LITTLE REDUNDANCY, UH, AN EIGHT, BECAUSE I SEE, I THINK, NO, I'M NOT. I WAS THINKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT, THE DIFFERENT WORK GROUP. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT SEEMS REDUNDANT. UH, BUT IT IS ALIGNED TO, UM, NUMBER FOUR IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS. UH, RIGHT. BECAUSE THE ONLY ADDITION IS, UH, THE INCLUSION OF CAP METRO AND THE APPROPRIATE CONTACTS FOR PROJECT CONNECT OR, UM, EITHER PRODUCT CONNECT OR, UH, THE INNOVATION CORRIDOR OR ANY ONE OF THE OTHER HIGH PROFILE BOND PROJECTS. BUT AGAIN, IT PUTS US BACK WITH THE OPEN DATA AND, UH, BASICALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR APPLIED FOR ADVANCED SERVICES GROUP AND OPEN DATA GROUP, UH, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY CAP, METRO AND OTHERS. SO, UH, ON NUMBER NINE, UPGRADE TO CITY FIBER TECHNOLOGY. THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, UH, UH, THE GATLIN STUFF HERE. THEN WE GO TO NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS MONITOR GOOGLE TITLE. IS THAT A REDUNDANT TERM? IT SEEMS KIND OF REDUNDANT, UH, IN A FEW CAPACITIES, UM, COMMISSIONER YANKS, I'M SORRY. SO THE, UH, NUMBER THREE GATTON MIGHT BE CONSIDERED THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE ON THE POLES, THE ACTUAL FIBER AND NUMBER NINE WOULD BE THE ELECTRONICS THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THAT FIBER. SO THEY COULD BE CONSIDERED TWO SEPARATE, UH, GALOSHES NUMBER. YES, YES. WE COULD DO THAT THEN. YES. OKAY. NUMBER NINE AND MAKE IT THREE C OKAY. THAT SEEMS SIMPLE, BUT ALSO AMENDED TO REFLECT HARDWARE OR WHAT, WHAT IS IT? POLE HARDWARE OR, WELL, UM, ONE ASPECT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL FIBER ON THE POLES. AND THE OTHER ASPECT OF OUR CITIZEN OVERSIGHT WOULD BE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR THAT FIBER. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APPLICATIONS TECHNOLOGIES, RIGHT. IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE TRANSMISSION TECHNOLOGIES, RIGHT. AND THEN APPLICATIONS RIGHT ON THOSE TRANSMISSION TECHNOLOGIES. YEAH. AND I BET. ALL RIGHT. SO W HOW CAN WE RESOLVE, UH, AT SOME LANGUAGE THEN ON THAT ONE? SO IT'D BE NINE C AND EXCUSE ME, THREE C AND IT WILL READ, UM, NUMBER EIGHT AS IS, UH, [02:00:03] RIGHT, RIGHT. BEFORE WE GO TO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING NUMBER NINE, THREE C, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE UPGRADE TO SO PROVIDE CITIZEN OVERSIGHT OF THE UPGRADES TO CITY FIBER TECHNOLOGY. YEAH. OKAY. SO, SO LET'S, LET'S GO AHEAD AND LEAVE THE CITIZEN PART OUT AGAIN. RIGHT. SO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT OVERSIGHT ON UPGRADE OF CITY FIBER TECHNOLOGY. OH, YOU GET THAT ONE. JESSIE, I THINK PROVIDE UPGRADE OVERSIGHT ON UPGRADES OF CITY FIBER TECHNOLOGY IS WHAT WE AGREED ON CONSENSUS FORMED ON. OKAY. UM, THEN WE GO TO NUMBER 10, PROMOTE ECONOMIES OF SCALE VIA EVALUATING THE ECOSYSTEM OF TECHNOLOGY UNITS IN THE CITY AND RECOMMENDING CONSOLIDATION AS APPROPRIATE. UM, OKAY. THIS IS INTERESTING. UM, YEAH, THAT'D BE JUST THAT ROLE IN THE FOUR. HOW DO YOUR HOME, UH, MAYBE MAYBE A FOUR B UM, I KIND OF, MY ASSESSMENT OF THIS IS, UH, ALMOST LIKE AN EVALUATION FOR, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ENTERPRISE ARCHITECTURE. UH, YOU KNOW, THIS REFERENCE TO TECHNOLOGY UNITS MAKES ME THINK OF ENTERPRISE ARCHITECTURE. UH, IT MAKES ME THINK PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT, THAT MAKES SENSE CHAMPIONS. I REMEMBER WHY WE WROTE IT DOWN. REMEMBER THIS WAS ABOUT THE TIME AND, YOU KNOW, UM, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH HAD DEVELOPED ITS OWN ECOSYSTEM FOR VACCINE DISTRIBUTION, ET CETERA. AND WE WERE WONDERING WHY THEY DIDN'T ENGAGE ME, UH, CTM. AND WE WROTE THAT DOWN SAYING, OKAY, THERE ARE ALL THESE TOWERS OF IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND WE SAID, WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE ECOSYSTEM OF THESE DIVERSE TECHNOLOGY UNITS AND RECOMMENDED CONSOLIDATION AS APPROPRIATELY. PERFECT. OKAY. SO YEAH, THIS IS DEFINITELY ALIGNED TO THAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THINK WE'VE GOT, UM, A NEXT STEP THAT'S ALIGNED TO, UH, IT'S A DIFFERENT WORK GROUP, BUT IT'S ALIGNED TO MY ENGAGEMENT WITH CHRIS STEWART AROUND SOFTWARE, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME KIND OF EXERCISE, UH, RIGHT. WE HAVE SOFTWARE IN A VARIETY OF BUSINESS UNITS AROUND THE CITY THAT HAS TO BE MANAGED. AND HIS OBJECTIVE WAS TO INTEGRATE THAT AND TO CREATE A MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE FOR THE COO TO BE ABLE TO USE THE SAME WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THE TECHNOLOGY UNITS. RIGHT. SO I'LL ADD THAT TO THE FOLLOW-UP WITH CHRIS STEWART, RIGHT. AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD ADDRESSED THIS WITH CHRIS STEWART AT ONE TIME, AND IT W THE, UH, THE PROBLEM WAS ONE OF GOVERNANCE. IN OTHER WORDS, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE MONEY AND ESPECIALLY ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENTS CAN GO OUT AND SPEND MONEY THAT, UH, CTM CANNOT SPEND BECAUSE THEY ARE SERVICING THE DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH MONEY, WHICH IS GENERALLY LIKE THE LIBRARY AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THINGS LIKE THIS. SO A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS WILL GO OUT AND SPEND MONEY FOR A, UH, SOME KIND OF A SERVICE OR A SYSTEM THAT IS NOT REALLY ENTERPRISE WIDE. AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM OF GOVERNANCE. AND I THINK THIS IS, UH, UH, AN ISSUE THAT TRANSCENDS ANY ONE WORK GROUP AND JUST THE COMMISSION IN GENERAL NEEDS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. I AGREE WITH YOU. UH, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE BACKGROUND. IT DEFINITELY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH CHRIS, UH, UH, STEWART AND CONSISTENT WITH THE OBJECTIVE TO GO TO AWAY FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, A BREAK FIX ORGANIZATION TO A STRATEGIC PARTNER, RIGHT. THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND IN THESE DECISIONS, THEY CAN HELP TO ALIGN, UH, RESOURCES. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, TIRPITZ, UH, MY BACKGROUND IS AN INDUSTRY AND, UH, I [02:05:01] AM NOT AWARE OF COMPANIES THAT HAVE THEIR SEPARATE IDEAS FOR DIVISION. WHAT THEY WILL HAVE IS A COMMON ID GROUP THAT PROVIDES COMMON PLATFORMS AND SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS. WE'LL HAVE A SMALL GROUP THAT ADDS VALUE, ADD SERVICES ON TOP OF THAT. SO THE QUESTION IS THESE GROUPS LIKE THE AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT. SO I'LL USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, NOT TO BEAT THEM UP, BUT TO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE. SO HOW MUCH OF THEIR SOLUTION WAS CUSTOMIZED SPECIFIC TO THEIR NEEDS AND HOW MUCH OF THIS COULD THEY HAVE GOT FROM SEED FROM, FROM THE CIO THEY BOUGHT FROM CTM AND THEN BUILT ON TOP OF IT. AND WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN A MORE ROBUST SOLUTION? AND I THINK THAT'S AN EVALUATION THAT SHOULD BE DONE ACROSS THE CITY, BECAUSE I'M SURE WE DO NOT HAVE ECONOMIES OF SCALE THE WAY WE ARE OPERATING. RIGHT. WELL, YOUR POINT IS, IT'S TAKEN IT'S IN FACT ALMOST IMPLIED BY THE OBJECTIVE. UM, AND, UH, AS A NEXT STEP, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WE'D WANT TO ENGAGE THE CIO SINCE THEY WOULD BE THE ONE PLAYING THAT QUARTERBACKING ROLE, SO TO SPEAK. RIGHT. SO, YEAH. YEP. SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THIS YEAR FOR US TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM WITH ANOTHER, I KNOW WE'VE HAD ONE DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A FEW MORE. OKAY. SO AT THIS POINT WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE THOUGHT THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ABOVE AND BEYOND THE PURVIEW OF A SINGLE WORKING GROUP. NO THOUGHT TO KEEP IT IN THE WORKING GROUP. I PERSONALLY, UM, TO GO GET THE WAY I'D LIKE TO GET SOME MORE OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON REGARDLESS. UH, BUT THE QUESTION IS, UH, DO WE FEEL THE NEED TO LIST THE OBJECTIVE UNDER THIS WORK OR NOT NOW, I WOULD PREFER TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE WORKING GROUP CHAIR FIRST. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, IT MAKES SENSE BEING IN THIS, UNDER THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, PURVIEW OF INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT, UM, HM I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD, I WOULD KEEP IT, I THINK WE COULD KEEP IT HERE AND THEN IF YOU FEEL LIKE WE COULD EXPAND IT OUT ELSEWHERE, YOU KNOW, NOT KEEP IT CONFINED, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD SAY AS AN ITEM YOU'RE ON THE LIST. OKAY. UH, UH, YES. CAN I SHOULD ASK YOU THAT. SO LET ME SUGGEST THAT WE LEAVE IT HERE ALSO ADDED TO THE COMMISSION LEVEL, BECAUSE AS THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE FREE FLOWING DISCUSSIONS. OH, SURE. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING RECORDED. OH, SURE. THE COMMISSION LEVEL IT'S MORE FORMALIZED. OKAY. SO WE CAN HAVE, START OFF WITH DISCUSSIONS AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL. AND THEN ONCE YOU'VE REACHED A SORT OF LIKE AN INFLECTION POINT, WE CAN MOVE IT UP TO THE COMMISSION AND HAVE A GREATER DISCUSSION WITH ALL THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT. YEAH. MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. YEAH. YEAH. UNDERSTOOD AND AGREED. I WAS JUST LOOKING TO, TO S TO SEE IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS FOR THAT. AND RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ANY STRONG FEELINGS OF THE POSING THIS. SO WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND LEAVE IT AS IS, AND THEN FINALIZE WITH THE REMOVAL OF BARRIERS TO ACCESS BROADBAND SLASH WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY IN MARGINALLY SERVED MORE INCOME AREAS OF THE CITY. UM, WELL, I INCLUDED, I ADDED TO THAT THING, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF BROADBAND STANDARDS FOR MINIMUM ACCEPTABLE SPEEDS IN HOUSEHOLDS. OKAY. SO ALTHOUGH I DO DEFINITELY, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, UH, ENCOURAGE THAT WE TAKE ON THIS OBJECTIVE, I FEEL AS THOUGH THE OBJECTIVE IS IN THE WRONG WORKING GROUP, I THINK THIS OBJECTIVE IS, IS MADE TAILOR-MADE FOR THE DIGITAL INCLUSION, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND STRATEGIC POLICY AND BACKWARD GROUP. AND I WOULD, YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT, LIKE, WE, WE KEEP NUMBER SIX HERE, WHICH IS MORE ABOUT, WELL, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BARRIERS TO, UH, CONNECTIVITY IN MARGINALLY SERVED AREAS. UH, MAINLY IN TERMS OF, UH, LIKE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE ON THE POLES. UM, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CONDUIT IN THE GROUND. AND, UM, GOOGLE IS FINDING [02:10:01] SOME REAL DIFFICULTY IN GETTING TO THESE AREAS. OF COURSE, OF COURSE, OF THIS, THERE IS A, AN ASPECT OF PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, OF OBSTACLES AND IT, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH PERMITTING. I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, CARRIERS IN HERE THAT HAD COMPLAINED ABOUT THE PERMITTING PROCESS BEING LONG AND INVOLVED, AND IT MAINLY ADJUSTED WHAT WAS NEEDED, WAS MORE RESOURCES DEVOTED TO THE PERMITTING PROCESS IN ORDER TO, UH, SPEED UP THE PROCESS. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S AN ASPECT OF THIS THAT COULD STAY AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE GROUP. SO LET ME ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE, UH, IF WE LOOK BACK TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, INFRASTRUCTURE, AS A SERVICE EFFICIENCY, EQUITY ANALYSIS, ANALYSIS, AND ASSESSMENT, I THINK WE'D WANT TO PUT THAT UNDER THAT, UH, THAT WE WANT TO MAKE IT FOR B. UH, SO WHAT I PROPOSE WE DO IS IS THAT WE MAKE, UH, THEIR MOODLE OF STRUCTURE, THE REMOVAL OF INFRASTRUCTURE BARRIERS, UH, TO BROADBAND AND WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY, UH, AND, AND TO ALIGN WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE FUNDING AND UNDERSERVED AND MARGINALLY SERVED AREAS OF THE CITY. NOW THEY'VE GOT TO GET US COVERED. YEAH. BUT THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. UM, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, UH, AND OUR SUPPORT BEHIND THE PINS PROJECT IS TO, TO, TO GET FIBER IN PARTS OF TOWN WHERE THERE'S NO FIBER. OKAY. YEAH. SO, UH, GIBLETS, UH, YES. CAN I SHOULD ASK YOU IF THERE IS, THERE'S THIS EDITION THAT I JUST PROPOSED FOR NUMBER 10 DEVELOPMENT OR BROADBAND STANDARDS, SHOULD THAT DROP DOWN TO THE NEXT WORKING GROUP? UH, YES. YES. THAT THAT'S, UH, WELL, UH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE, UH, BASED UPON THE FACT THAT IT'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A DIGITAL INCLUSION STANDARD, UH, I DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S A GOOD PIVOT. UH, BUT BEFORE WE TRANSITION OUT OF THIS, UH, IS THERE ANY THOUGHTS, UH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE, THE, THE WORKING GROUP CHAIR CHANCE TO CLOSE THIS ONE OUT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, CONFIRMED AS ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO CHANGE OR CHAPTERS? I ADDED ONE MORE BOOK. OKAY. I'VE GOT NINE TOTAL. UM, SO WHAT DID I MISS IN MY LIST? I HAVEN'T ADDED ONE MORE THING. ALIGNMENT WITH PROJECT CONNECT IN PARENTHESES, OUR TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP FRIENDS. OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE THAT COVERED ALREADY. LET'S SEE. UH, WE WERE GOING TO INCLUDE THAT. I THINK THAT WAS THE THREE C THAT, UH, HAVE A COORDINATE WITH, UH, MOBILITY PROJECTS AND CORRIDOR PROJECTS. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. PROVIDE OVERSIGHT. UH, OKAY, SO THERE'S THREE C AND THE 3D? NO, JUST THE THREE C WE'VE WE REMOVED THE ORIGINAL THREE C AND REPLACED WITH YEAH, RIGHT NOW THREE C SAYS PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND UPGRADES TO CITY FIBER TECHNOLOGY. YEAH. OKAY. WE HAVE A THREE CM 3D THEN, CAUSE WE NEED TO ADD, UM, YEAH, SO BASICALLY EIGHT, I THINK TURNS INTO THREE C. YEAH. AND THEN NINE TURNS INTO 3D. OKAY. RIGHT. I GUESS IT WAS, UH, THE NUMBER FIVE THAT, WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MOBILITY PROJECTS AND THE CORRIDOR PROJECTS. OKAY. PARDON? UH, NO, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS FIVE. YES. WHERE I CONNECT WITH CARRIERS ON. SO CARTER AND MOBILITY PROJECTS AS ONE, THAT'S THE CITY OWNED, I'M TALKING ALSO PROJECT CONNECT. THAT'S GOING TO BE DIGGING UP A LOT OF HOLES THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOBILITY PROJECTS LIKE THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY CITY BONDS. OH, OKAY. SO WHEN I TALK, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CARTER AND MOBILITY PROJECTS, THAT'S THE 2018 BOND PROJECT. YEAH. AND I, I, YEAH, I THOUGHT WE WERE KEEPING EIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, UM, ACCORDING WITH CAP METRO, AS OPPOSED TO YEAH. SO I WILL BE OKAY IF YOU ADDED ADDITIONALLY MOBILITY PROJECTS AS WELL AS PROJECT CONNECT. [02:15:01] OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. CITY CARTER AND MOBILITY PROJECT, AS WELL AS PROJECT CONNECT. AND THAT WOULD BE AN ITEM FIVE THEN IT'S IF I CAN FIND YEP. AND THEN I'VE DONE ALL THE CHANGES THAT I PROPOSE TO THEM. OKAY. OKAY. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. SURE. MY PLEASURE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PIVOT THEN TO THE NEXT WORD AND GROUP DISCUSSION, UH, THE DIGITAL INCLUSION, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND STRATEGIC POLICY IMPACT WORKING GROUP. UM, WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER THE MEMBERSHIP, UM, AND HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STRATEGIC OUTCOMES, JUST KIND OF JUMPING RIGHT IN HERE. UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER NECESSARILY. UM, BUT LET'S GO IN ORDER JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE CONVERSATION. UM, BEGINNING WITH INVESTIGATE WAYS TO ENABLE HOMELESS POPULATION USING DIGITAL MATCHING PROGRAM, A JOB MATCHING. SO THERE'S BEEN SMALL CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD, UH, AROUND THE ROLE PLAY BY LOCAL NONPROFITS AND, UH, AND DECA PARTNER SOLUTIONS WITHOUT MUCH FOLLOWUP. UM, WE DISCUSSED, UH, SOLUTIONS. WE WOULD DISCUSS THEM AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL AND AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL THINGS SUCH AS DIGITAL KIOSKS, THAT'S SOMETHING TO PURSUE. UM, AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LEVERAGE LEARNINGS FROM EXISTING USE CASES WITH DIGITAL KIOSKS, YOU KNOW, EXAMPLES LISTED CONVENTION CENTER, UM, HAS A REALLY SLICK ONE, UH, THAT IS DESIGNED FOR TOURISM WITH AN INTERFACE FOR A VARIETY OF PICTURES AND LANGUAGES. UM, CAP METRO OF COURSE, HAS THEM FOR THE ROUTES. UH, I KNOW THE AIRPORT HAS SEVERAL FOR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF THING THAT WE HAVE TO PROBABLY GIVE A NUDGE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE, UH, SOME ENGINEERING AND, AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN INNOVATION, UH, DEPENDING UPON THE APPLICATION SCENARIO. SO I SUGGESTED NEXT WEEK, EITHER SCHEDULE A WORKING GROUP FOR COMMISSIONING AND DISCUSSION ON THE DEPARTMENTS, INDIVIDUALS WE NEED TO INVOLVE TO GET THAT DONE. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT ONE SUPPORTIVE, I WOULD DEFINITELY LOOK TO THE WORKING GROUP MEMBERS FIRST FOR ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS, UH, COMMISSIONER HOLLAND, ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE, SPECIMEN THE COMMISSION MEETING FIRST AND SEEING IF WE CAN GET THAT BROADER, UM, PERSPECTIVE ON WHO WE CAN REACH OUT TO AND THEN MAYBE TAKE IT TO THE WORKING GROUP. OKAY, WELL, LET'S, LET'S TAKE YOUR ADVICE. UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT NOW. UM, JESSICA, WHAT YOU THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, WHERE DO WE START, UH, QUICK CLARIFIER. ARE YOU, UH, THINKING ABOUT THE DIGITAL MATCHING PROGRAM OR DIGITAL KIOSKS? YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. UH, BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT. UM, SO BOTH, UH, AND I WANT TO ADD TO THE LIST OF THE INTERFACE HERE AT CITY HALL, UH, AS FAR AS EXAMPLES OF KIOSKS AS WELL. UM, SO YEAH, UH, BOTH, UH, I GUESS LET'S, LET'S START WITH, UH, THE DIGITAL MATCHING PROGRAM, UH, JOBS MATCHING PROGRAM. IN FACT, I HAVE LESS CONFUSION ABOUT WHERE TO START THERE. UM, AND MORE UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE DIGITAL KIOSK, RIGHT. UH, WE'VE GOT CLEAR DECA PARTNERS THAT ARE FOCUSED ON, UH, ON JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND TRAINING. UM, THAT'S A SIMPLER THING. UM, I THINK DIGITAL, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN DONE BUT NEVER DONE LIKE THIS, RIGHT? YEAH. THE QUESTION OF DIGITAL KIOSKS IS, UH, HAS BEEN APPROACHED BY THE CITY IN THE PAST, IN THE CONTEXT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, DIGITAL INCLUSION OPPORTUNITIES. WE'VE ALWAYS RUN INTO THE PAST, UH, BARRIERS AROUND PROHIBITIONS ON DIGITAL ADVERTISING, WHICH IS A NORMAL WAY THAT DIGITAL KIOSKS ARE FUNDED. UM, AND THE CITY HAS A PROHIBITION AGAINST, UH, ADVERTISING THAT CAN BE DIGITAL ADVERTISING THAT CAN BE SEEN BY THE, [02:20:01] FROM THE ROAD. UM, SO THAT, THAT IS A CHALLENGE. UH, WHAT I WOULD, WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS IF THE DEPLOYMENT OF, UH, CHARGING STATIONS FOR EVS, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE, UM, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING THOSE AS DIGITAL KIOSKS AS WELL, OR CHARGING STATIONS FOR DEVICES OR, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER DIGITAL EQUITY APPLICATIONS, UH, LIKE THAT. UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A STRONG, UH, KNOWLEDGE OF LIKE WHERE WE WOULD START THAT CONVERSATION OTHER THAN IT COULD INVOLVE AUSTIN ENERGY. IT COULD INVOLVE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION. UM, AND TO SOME EXTENT IT COULD INVOLVE THE CONVENTION CENTER SINCE THEY HAVE SOME DIGITAL KIOSKS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR PORTFOLIO. OH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE TRANSPORTATION GROUPS AND THINKING ABOUT BUS STOPS, UH, AS, UH, KIOSKS AS WELL. TIRPITZ YES. IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE TOPIC OF DIGITAL KIOSKS, IS THERE ANY DATA ON, UM, THE DEGREE TO WHICH THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN USED AROUND THE CITY? MY ONLY, MY ONLY POINT IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK TO, TO IMPLEMENT DIGITAL KIOSKS ACROSS THE CITY, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD INVESTMENT OF THE CITY'S FUNDS. SO, UM, MAYBE IT'S JUST, MAYBE THE NEXT STEP IS PERHAPS TO JUST DO SOME, UM, SOME RESEARCH ON OUR END, AS A WORKING GROUP TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY DATA TO BACK UP, UM, POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. YEAH. I AGREE WITH THAT THEN THE SPIRIT OF THAT. UM, I THINK EVEN IF WE CONCLUDE AFFIRMATIVELY THAT THERE'S NO USE CASE THAT COULD YIELD THE DATA, THAT WE'D WANT TO AFFIRM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMMODATE HOMELESSNESS OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, UH, THAT TYPICALLY GETS SHOOED AWAY FROM THESE KIOSKS IN PUBLIC SETTINGS. AND DON'T ACTUALLY EVEN REALLY GET TO USE THEM NECESSARILY. UM, UH, YOU KNOW, ADMITTEDLY, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE CURRENT APPLICATIONS AND USE CASES, I THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH TECHNOLOGIES MIGHT, WHICH INTERFACES MY WORK, WHICH, YOU KNOW, JUST THINKING OF MORE OF, MORE OF IT IN TERMS OF A PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS GATHERING, YOU KNOW, CAPABILITY GATHERING EXERCISE. UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, IT, IT'S IT BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND PATTERNS OF USAGE IN GENERAL FOR THESE DEVICES, EVEN IF IT'S DIFFICULT TO PIN DOWN OUR TARGET GROUP THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SERVE. UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE CAN EASILY, YOU KNOW, UM, I MEAN WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE OF ORGS THAT HAVE DIGITAL KIOSKS, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN ENGAGE THEM AND REQUEST THAT DATA, UM, WITH THIS GOAL IN MIND AND SPIN UP A COLLABORATION FOCUSED ON THIS. I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER COMMENTS SURROUNDING IT. SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S, UH, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT. BUT THE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING IS, ARE, ARE THERE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, LIKE SAY SAN FRANCISCO OR, UM, NEW YORK WHERE THEY POTENTIALLY UTILIZE SOME TYPE OF DIGITAL WAY OF, UM, OF KNOWLEDGE SHARING OUT TO THE HOMELESS POPULATION. SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS WHERE WE CAN MAYBE REACH OUT OR THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION. AND THEN THE OTHER, UM, THOUGHT I HAD IS MAYBE DOING A PILOT ONE. UM, MAYBE IF THERE'S SOMETHING ONE THAT'S CLOSE TO THE LARGE HOMELESS SHELTER DOWNTOWN, UM, I THINK IT'S ON SEVENTH STREET, UM, OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, A POP-UP OR SOMETHING. UM, AND THEN MY OTHER THOUGHT WAS SURROUNDING THE, UM, NO AD POLICY WONDERING IF THAT WOULD INCLUDE LIKE SPONSORSHIPS. SO IF ONE OF THESE MAJOR TECH COMPANIES SPONSORED A KIOSK FOR US, UM, GREG QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS, UH, AND YOU I'M GLAD YOU IN IT THERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO ACTUALLY GO BACK THERE AND I'LL START THERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO FORGET THIS. WE ARRIVED AT A POINT WHERE WE ACTUALLY KICKED AROUND, WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO PURSUE AN AMENDMENT, RIGHT? IF A SIMPLE [02:25:01] POLICY BAN OF ADVERTISING IS WHAT'S PREVENTING THIS, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD PURSUE THAT AND CONSIDER THAT A POTENTIAL ACTION TO TAKE. AND THE FACT IS THAT IF ADVERTISING IS ALSO PROHIBITED IN PEN INSTALLATIONS AND OTHER APPLICATIONS, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD EVEN MORE STRONGLY CONSIDER PURSUING AN AMENDMENT OR, YOU KNOW, WORKING TO ADJUST THE LAW. UM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT IT TAKES TO, TO, TO DO THAT AND LOOK INTO THAT, UM, AT, IN FACT, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, DIDN'T, DIDN'T, WE KIND OF BEGIN THAT PROCESS BEFORE A LITTLE BIT. JESSE, DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? I FEEL LIKE WE DID. I KNOW THAT THE, I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST IN REGARDS TO TRYING TO EXPLORE THE CITY'S ADVERTISING, UH, DIGITAL ADVERTISING BAN, UM, IN, IN THE CONTEXT OF KIOSKS. UM, I, I DON'T, UH, THIS WAS MANY YEARS AGO THOUGH, HOW IT TRANSPIRED. OKAY. WELL, UM, IT'S EITHER WAY WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. UM, AND, UH, WE DEFINITELY HAVE, UH, COLLABORATIONS AND, UH, GOOD, UH, RELATIONSHIPS, UH, THOUGHT LEADERSHIP SHARING FROM OTHER CITIES. SO I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY PURSUE THAT. UH, UH, JESSE, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO ANY OF, OF OUR RELATIONSHIPS WHERE WE KNOW WE CAN OUTREACH? I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH COLORADO DENVER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UH, UH, I COULDN'T SAY OFFHAND AND MAYBE I'M THINKING, I MEAN, TO BE FAIR, I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT SOME CONNECTIONS THAT JOHN HAD BEFORE. YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S MANY, MANY CITIES THAT HAVE DIGITAL, UH, TH THAT HAVE KICKED KIOSKS, UH, THAT PROVIDE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNCTIONS. RIGHT. UM, BUT THEY'RE ALL IN, IN JUST DIFFERENT REGULATORY ENVIRONMENTS. RIGHT. BUT THEN WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. RIGHT, RIGHT. UM, YEAH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT THAT AND THING TO CONSIDER COMMISSIONER ISLANDS, BUT WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN. WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPARING A SIMILAR ENVIRONMENT. UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EXCITED ME ABOUT PHILADELPHIA AS A MODEL, BECAUSE THEY DID HAVE A PUBLIC UTILITY PROVIDER AT LEAST, UH, UH, PUBLIC UTILITY AUTHORITY, ALTHOUGH IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S SIMILAR, I THINK, TO AUSTIN ENERGY. SO, AND, UH, YEAH, SO, SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN GAIN INSIGHTS FROM OTHER CITIES AND IN TO THE IDEA OF A PILOT OR A POP-UP. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AS WELL. UM, IT, IT PUTS US BACK TO NEEDING TO IDENTIFY, UH, KEY PARTNERS, UH, DEPARTMENTS, INDIVIDUALS, AND WHATNOT, UH, TO ENGAGE AT THE WORKING LEVEL. BUT NOW THAT WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION HERE RIGHT NOW AT OUR MEETING, THAT SEEMS LIKE THE NEXT APPROPRIATE STEP, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CARRY THIS CONVERSATION INTO THE WORKING GROUP. AND, UH, YES, MR. DAWSON, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM. YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A REALLY A DUMB QUESTION, BUT IT'S A FOLLOW ON TO WHAT, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER LINDA WAS SAYING, UM, COULD BE PROMOTE PROPOSED A PILOT PROJECT WHEREBY WE, UH, I KNOW THERE ARE LIMITS LIMITS OUR ADS, ET CETERA, BUT THIS IS AN INFORMATION BOOTH, A KIOSK WHERE THEY TOUCH SENSITIVE SCREEN. SO THIS WAY YOU DON'T NEED A KEYBOARD, YOU DON'T NEED A MOUSE, NOTHING, JUST A SCREEN THAT SENSITIVE. SO IF A HOMELESS MAN COMES UP THERE AND SAYS, OKAY, I'M HUNGRY. I NEED A HOT MEAL. WHERE DO I GO? WHAT'S THE NEAREST PLACE WHERE I CAN GO GET A HOT MEAL, OR WHERE CAN I GO FOR A SHOWER OR WHERE CAN I GO SLEEP OR SLEEP AT NIGHT, ET CETERA, ALL THAT INFORMATION, IF IT WAS AT HIS FINGERTIPS, HE OR SHE WOULD BE SO MUCH SAFER. OH, YES. I, I THINK, UM, I THINK WE'D ALL AGREE WITH THAT ANALYSIS. I THINK THE WHOLE SPIRIT OF THE IDEA FOR THIS, WHICH HAD BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, BUT WHICH I KNOW IN THIS ITERATION WAS, UH, WAS PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER IRELAND, UM, IS, IS TO ENABLE THAT KIND OF RESOURCE ALLOCATION, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THAT, BUT TO ENABLE ANY NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS, UH, AS WELL, UH, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO INFORMATION FOR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, FOR HEALTH RESOURCES, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IT'D BE GREAT IF, YOU KNOW, IT BEGAN WITH, UH, JUST AN A NEEDS CHOICE AND WAS VERY LOGICAL [02:30:01] AND ALLOWED THEM TO GO DOWN A PATH TO GET THE ANSWERS. UM, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE TOUGH, BUT I CAN ENVISION EVEN A FUTURE WHERE IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH SOME TYPE OF BLOCKCHAIN ID MANAGEMENT. SO THAT WAY INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN'T MAINTAIN DOCUMENT, UH, INTEGRITY AND SAFETY WHILE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, COULD STILL LEVERAGE IT AND EVEN POTENTIALLY SCHEDULE SERVICES, UH, LEVERAGING IT. UM, SO YEAH, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY SIT HERE AND JUST HAVE A DEDICATED BRAINSTORM TO THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN, CAN, CAN APPLY THAT TECHNOLOGY YET ON THAT. YEAH, INDEED. INDEED, INDEED. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, YES, JESSE. YEAH, I HAVE ONE QUICK THOUGHT ON THIS. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE ON, UH, IF A SMART KIOSK IS THE CORRECT SOLUTION FOR PROVIDING RESOURCES TO THE HOMELESS POPULATION. LIKE, SO IT IS A, IT IS A SOLUTION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE SOLUTION, RIGHT. UH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, OR I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR, UH, THE, THE, UH, THAT THE HOMELESS STRATEGY OFFICER OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, DIANA GRAY, UM, TO SEE HOW SHE THINKS THAT TECHNOLOGY MIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, ASSIST FOLKS THAT ARE FACING HOMELESSNESS, UM, BECAUSE IT MAY BE THAT, UM, A PHYSICAL, UH, KIOSK THAT IS LOCATED IN A SPECIFIC PLACE IN, IS NOT MOVABLE. WOULD IT BE UTILIZED OR WOULD IT NOT BE UTILIZED OR, OR IS, YOU KNOW, MOBILE TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, HAVING INFORMATION IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, UH, GOING TO BE DURABLE AND CAN TRAVEL WITH THE, UH, WITH THE HOMELESS PERSON, OR IS IT THAT YOU, HOW'S THIS INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, WHERE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SHELTERS ARE, UH, LIKE ALLSTON RESOURCE CENTER FOR THE HOMELESS, FOR INSTANCE, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THESE QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK THIS, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH, UH, DIANA. NOPE. I'M SORRY, PLEASE REPEAT THAT. I WAS JUST ASKING IF WE COULD GET HER TO COME TO THE WORKING GROUP. YES. I THINK, UH, THAT'S I THINK THE NEXT BEST STEP, RIGHT. THAT AND CONSISTENT WITH OUR MODEL, INVITE HER TO THE WORKING GROUP AND THEN TO A COMMISSION MEETING TO POTENTIALLY PRESENT ON SHARED IDEAS OR FINDINGS OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD AFFECT THE COMMUNITY LATE THE TECHNOLOGY. CAUSE, CAUSE TO JESSE'S POINT, UM, THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE INSIGHTS AND UNDERSTANDING FROM THEIR EXPERIENCES. I DO KNOW, UH, HAVING BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE SINCE HIGH SCHOOL DEBATE, WHICH DATES ME GOING BACK 30 YEARS, UH, I, I DEFINITELY HAVE LOTS OF THOUGHTS, BUT I'M BY NO MEANS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, EVEN THOUGH I'VE, I'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR A WHILE. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, HER EXPERTISE AND UNDERSTANDING THE ROLE, UH, YOU KNOW, KNOW EXAMPLES OF EFFECTIVE TECHNOLOGIES AND WHAT'S WORKED. BUT WITH THAT, I THINK WE CAN PROCEED COMFORTABLY WITH THIS ONE, KNOWING WE'VE GOT A NEXT STEP. WE NEED TO UPDATE THE NEXT STEP ON THAT ITEM. I THINK WE SHOULD UPDATE THE NEXT STEP. YES. UH, TO REFLECT, UH, OUTREACH TO, UH, THE, EXACTLY TO DIANE. UH, I WAS, UH, UH, SORRY. I WAS DRAWING A BLANK ON HER TITLE THERE FOR A SECOND. I KNOW PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IS, IS THE GOAL, UH, RATHER THAN THAT GOAL, BUT THAT IS THE CHARACTERIZATION THAT IS, UH, MORE CONSIDERED MORE SENSITIVE NOW AS OPPOSED TO REFERRING TO PEOPLE AS HOMELESS. UH, SO I'M SURE THAT'S FACTORED INTO A TITLE SOMEHOW. I JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT AGREE. THAT IS OUR NEXT STEP THERE, UH, ON THE KIOSKS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE DIGITAL MATCHING PROGRAM, UH, AND JOB MATCHING PROGRAMS, UH, IT IS ALSO WORKING GROUP DISCUSSION, BUT I'D WANT US TO, UH, DIVE INTO A LIST OF, YOU KNOW, NON-PROFITS AND TALKING ABOUT SOLUTIONS THERE IN THE [02:35:01] WORKING GROUP, BECAUSE DOES THAT SOUND GOOD FOR EVERYBODY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S GO ON, ON TO, UH, THE SECOND OBJECTIVE HERE, INCREASE COMMISSIONED RELATIONSHIPS PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES, EXAMPLES AT AND T AND GOOGLE WITH A GOAL OF IDENTIFYING OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND BOTH ACCESS AND UPSKILLING SLAS EDUCATION, PARTICULARLY FOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. UH, SO, UH, HISTORICALLY AGAIN, WE HAVE OPEN LINES COMMUNICATION, BUT THE HISTORY OF MORPH FREQUENT PRESENTATIONS FROM CARRIERS ON CHANGES IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY SUCH AS THE AFFORDABILITY PROGRAMS. UH, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, THOSE COMMUNICATION LINES OPEN. UM, THIS IS, WAS SPOKEN TO EARLIER, BUT NEXT IS TO ENGAGE WITH LOCAL CARRIERS, INCLUDING, UH, THE CONVERSATION SCHEDULED WITH, UH, UH, JOHN MICHAEL CORTEZ. AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT GOING THROUGH OUR LIST OF AUSTIN AIR PROVIDERS, NOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN RELATION TO BROADBAND STANDARDS. SO I'D LIKE TO INDICATE THAT THE BROADBAND STANDARDS IS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION AS WELL, AND ASKING WHAT THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE. AND THERE'S ALSO A CLEAR COMPONENT HERE AROUND TRAINING AND UPSKILLING. AND WHAT I PROPOSE IS THAT WE INCLUDE THIS MIGHT HAVE KIND OF A SYNERGISTIC EFFECT, UH, AS WE'RE LOOKING TO DO MORE AND MORE, UM, TOWN HALL LISTENING SESSIONS, AND, UH, TO ALSO ENGAGE IN PARTNERSHIPS FOR COLLABORATIVE SUPPORT, UM, WHETHER IT'S DEVICES AND OR TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. AND UP-SKILLING, UH, TO ADD THAT BASICALLY TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE WITH EVERY CARRIER. UM, SO IN ESSENCE, IN ADDITION TO ASKING THEM WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON WHAT THE ACTUAL STANDARD FOR BROADBAND SHOULD BE, GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO SHARE ANY UPSKILLING PROGRAMS THEY HAVE OR TRAINING PROGRAMS THEY HAVE, AND GET THEM COMPETING TO SHARE THAT KIND OF DATA AND THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS ONE? OKAY. I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE Y'ALL SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL START TO GO QUICKLY HERE, UH, REMOTE DISSIPATION AT BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS. UH, SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF PUSHING THIS FORWARD FROM THE INITIAL CONCEPT AND PILOT TO THE GOVERNOR'S EMERGENCY DECLARATION, UH, AND SERVICES USED DURING THE PANDEMIC MOPED DISSIPATION AT BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS IS TO ALLOW TO ALLOW FOR HYBRID MEETINGS IS NOW THE STANDARD, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST BASICALLY GIVE OURSELVES A ROUND OF APPLAUSE I'M SERIOUS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S DONE. UH, SO WHAT WE SHOULD DO NEXT THOUGH, IS PROMOTE THAT SUCCESS, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE OF EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT ALIGNED TO ALL THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, BECAUSE THAT CERTAINLY IS ONE THAT IS ALIGNED TO EVERY STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE. UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING HOPEFULLY THAT CAN GET PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN GOVERNMENT, UH, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT, UH, THAT GOVERNMENT WORKS. UM, AND IT WORKS FOR ALL OF US. I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT IS THAT THIS COMMISSION STILL NEEDS TO ADVOCATE FOR THE RESOURCES FOR ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO BE ABLE TO REMOTELY MEET. BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND THAT NOT ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE THAT ABILITY RIGHT NOW. SO THIS IS THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO BE DONE THERE. AND, UH, ALSO I FEEL THAT, UH, UM, WE COULD PROBABLY ADVOCATE FOR A MORE, UM, UH, EFFECTIVE USE OF THE, UH, THE TECHNOLOGY, UH, RIGHT NOW IT, IT IS A LITTLE BIT CUMBERSOME STILL. SO, UH, I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO BE DONE THERE. I TAKE YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER GATES. UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST ADD THAT ADD, UH, IN ADDITION TO PROMOTING THE SUCCESS AND ADVOCATE FOR EXPANSION TO ALL, ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. [02:40:06] UM, AND HOW ABOUT THIS ADVOCATE FOR EXPANSION AND ANALYSIS OF THE PRE-APPROVED RIGHT. THEY GO, SO HOW ABOUT THAT? HOW ABOUT WE ANALYZE FOR IMPROVEMENT FIRST AND THEN WE, AND LAST FOR EXPERIENCE AND EXPANSION WHERE APPROPRIATE, AND THAT WILL SHOW US, YOU KNOW, SENSITIVITY TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS BUDGET SENSITIVE, RIGHT. UH, AND, AND WE DON'T WANT TO GO FROM COMMUNICATING AS WE DID TO A FOCUSED, YOU KNOW, USE OF THIS TO THEN, YOU KNOW, SAYING, WELL, OKAY, NOW EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, FATE, WE ALWAYS ADVOCATED FOR A PHASED APPROACH, SO WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT. OKAY. THAT SOUND GOOD, EVERYBODY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW I'M SORRY. DID I HEAR SOMETHING? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN NOW THE NEXT ITEM ADVOCATE FOR ZOOM LICENSE AS ADMINISTERED BY LIBRARIES FOR CIVIC GROUPS, UH, WE MADE A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS. UM, I GUESS WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED, RIGHT. THEN WE ADVOCATE FOR THIS IN A BUDGET REQUEST FOR THE, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT MADE IT INTO THE, UH, OUR BUDGET SUGGESTED, I DON'T THINK IT DID THIS TIME AROUND. MAYBE WE DIDN'T. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. IN FACT, WASN'T THERE AN UNDERUTILIZATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. UM, THEY WEREN'T BEING USED. RIGHT. BUT THERE WAS A REASON WHY THEY WEREN'T BEING USED. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THE USE OF THE ZOOM LICENSE WAS TIED TO THE USE OF THE ROOM. AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS ADVOCATE FOR THE SEPARATION. AND OTHER WORDS, IF YOU COULDN'T RESERVE THE ROOM, THEN YOU COULDN'T RESERVE THE LICENSE. BUT THE WHOLE IDEA WAS THAT YOU DIDN'T NEED THE ROOM IF YOU HAD THE LICENSE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE STILL NEED TO WORK ON. RIGHT. RIGHT. WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSING ISSUE. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN OVERCOME IT, BUT BECAUSE WHAT OCCURRED TO ME WAS, OKAY, WELL, WE'VE GOT A PARTNER THAT IS EAGER TO CHECK OUT HOTSPOTS AND CHECK OUT DEVICES, AND THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO IF THEY COULD CHECK OUT LICENSES, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT ZOOM IS GOING TO GO FOR THAT. THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM. BUT I GUESS YOU SEE MY POINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A MODEL WHEREIN ANYONE CHECKS OUT FOR INDIVIDUAL USE TEMPORARY INDIVIDUAL USE SOFTWARE LICENSES. LIKE I'M TRYING TO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M SEEING A LICENSING, CHALLENGING A CHALLENGE THERE, UH, THAT I DON'T KNOW, WE CAN GET OVER, UM, BECAUSE THE DEVICES ARE OWNED BY, YOU KNOW, AN ENTITY OR WHATEVER, AND THEN IT'S UP TO THEM IF THEY WANT TO LOAN IT OUT, SOFTWARE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WELL, BUT THEIR BOTTLE IS THAT SOMEBODY OWNS THE LICENSE AND THEN EVERYTHING IS IN THE CLOUD. RIGHT. SO THE ZOOM, SO I GOT YOU. SO ZOOM LICENSE ASSOCIATED WITH HARDWARE, AND THEN THE ZOOM LICENSE IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN OLDER, NOT NECESSARILY A LICENSE, SO THAT AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE PASSWORD, THEN YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, THE ABILITY TO SCHEDULE THE MEETING. AND WHAT YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE SET THIS UP, JUST LIKE YOU SET UP, UM, A RESERVATION FOR A ROOM AT A LIBRARY IS THAT YOU, UH, APPLY, YOU SUBMIT A REQUEST AND THEN THE LIBRARY WOULD SEND YOU OUT THE LINK THAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH YOUR CIVIC ORGANIZATION. SO THE LIBRARY WOULD STILL OWN THE ZOOM LICENSE AND THE PARTICIPANTS WOULD HAVE THIS CIVIC ORGANIZATION WOULD JUST BE USING THAT ZOOM LICENSE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH, UH, OUR, UH, CONTACT GROUPS, UH, CONTACT TEAM GROUPS. THEY ALL HAVE ZOOM LICENSES NOW. AND, UH, THE ORGANIZATION OWNS THAT AND THEN EVERYONE USES IT. SO THAT THAT'S THE MODEL. AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT, THAT WOULD COMPLY [02:45:01] WITH ANY LICENSING ISSUES. SO THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY A FOLLOWUP CONVERSATION FOR OUR PARTNERS WITH AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY TO SEE. SO THEN I'LL TAKE THAT ON. I WONDER IF WE WANT TO LOOP IN THE LIBRARY COMMISSION AS WELL. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT, UH, WE SHOULD BEGIN BY JUST HAVING A CANDID CONVERSATION WITH EMMY, UH, ABOUT, UH, THE FEASIBILITY. RIGHT. AND THEN IF IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, WE SHOULD INVOLVE, UH, THE LIBRARY COMMISSION AND THE DIRECTOR THERE BECAUSE, UH, THEY WOULD LOVE TO FIND ANOTHER WAY TO AGAIN, MAKE IT EASIER TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IF THEY CAN. SO LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THIS ISN'T SOME THEY'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, CHECKED OFF SOMETHING THEY CAN'T DO, BUT I'LL, I'LL TAKE THAT ON. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, NEXT CONTINUED TO ADVOCATE FOR INCREASED FUNDING FOR LIBRARY WIRELESS HUB AND PLATFORM LENDING PROGRAMS. UH, WE DO THAT ON AN ONGOING BASIS, UH, SCALING, UH, INCREASING OUR, OUR, OUR BUDGETARY RECOMMENDATIONS YEAR EVERY YEAR. UH, SO NEXT RENEW BUDGET RECOMMENDATION INCREASE ADVOCACY WITH LOCAL PARTNERS AND COLLABORATION, UH, FUNDING SOURCES AS WHAT I SUGGEST, UH, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS THERE? OKAY. MOVING ON TO G TOPS, UH, TEAM TO ADVOCATE FOR INCREASED FUNDING FOR G TOPS HISTORICALLY, UH, WE HAVE A STANDING BUDGET RECOMMENDATION AND REVIEW PROCESS, UH, NEXT, YOU KNOW, RE RENEW THAT BUDGET RECOMMENDATION, UH, AND, UH, THE ONGOING PROCESS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY JUST KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IN TERMS OF ANALYZING DETOX, UH, B DETOX, EXPANSION, COMMUNITY NEEDS, ASSESSMENT, AND OR RESOURCE MAPPING. UH, AGAIN, WE REFERRED TO THIS EARLIER, UH, UH, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSION HISTORICALLY OF AGGREGATING DIGITAL INCLUSION, DATA POINTS, EEG, UNMET NEEDS, RESILIENCY CHALLENGES, INSTITUTIONAL OBSTACLES, ET CETERA, AND DIGITAL INCLUSION RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, LIKE DETOX RECIPIENTS, ACCESS PROVIDERS, UH, NON-PROFITS INTEGRATORS, ET CETERA, TO HELP US EXPAND, UH, FUNDING CAPABILITIES AND BETTER WARDS FUNDS BASED ON ACTIVE DATA, UH, DRIVEN COMMUNITY NEEDS ANALYSIS. UH, SO AGAIN, AN IDEAL SCENARIO IS WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO REAL TIME FEEDBACK THAT CAN HELP TO INFORM US ABOUT AWARDEES, YOU KNOW, UH, OR WHO TO AWARD, OR AT LEAST OUR REVIEW PANELS, UH, WHO TO AWARD, UM, AND, OR THE NEED FOR NEW PROGRAMS AND NEW NEW PATHWAYS. AND WHAT HAVE YOU. UH, SO THAT'S STILL A KIND OF A BRAINSTORM, BUT AS FAR AS NEXT, THERE'S NO NEXT THERE. UH, BUT THE NEXT STEP IS TO, UH, BASICALLY ACTUALLY WE DID DISCUSS THE NEXT STEP, UH, TO THIS POTENTIALLY, UH, IN THE WORKING GROUP. AND THAT WOULD BE TO ENGAGE THE, UM, THE SAME FOLKS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ENGAGING BEFORE, UH, IN THE OPEN, UH, AUSTIN GROUP ABOUT WORKING WITH US TO CREATE A RESOURCE. UH, SO THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH WE WANT TO TAKE UP AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL FOR DISCUSSION. THAT'S WHAT I PROPOSE WE DO NEXT THERE. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? OKAY. NEXT, UH, EMERGENCY BROADBAND RELIEF, CARRIER EVALUATION. SO HISTORICALLY A COMMISSIONER'S REQUESTED ENGAGEMENT TARA AND THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY DIVISION, A VARIETY OF RESPONSES WERE PROVIDED BASED ON THOSE WHO WERE PARTICIPATING AND, OR AT LEAST GETTING BACK TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING. UH, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS WEEK IN ONE OF OUR WORKING GROUPS, LEGISLATION, RECENT LEGISLATION HAS LIKELY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSES TO THIS AND A NEED TO CONFIRM WHO'S PARTICIPATING. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE 20 OR SO PARTICIPATING. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. SO I THINK NEXT, WE NEED TO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY REPORT ON ALL PROVIDERS WHO RESPONDED AND THOSE WHO DIDN'T. WE NEED TO CONSIDER CREATING A PROVIDER MAP. I THINK THAT HIGHLIGHTS WHAT CARES ARE AVAILABLE FOR WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS TO ENABLE COMPETITION AND CONSUMER [02:50:01] ADVOCACY. ANY THOUGHTS THERE? OKAY. WE'LL MOVE. WE'RE MOVING THIS ALONG QUICKLY, GUYS. UH, ALL RIGHT. SO THE RE THE STATE LEGISLATIVE TECH AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS POLICY EVALUATION, HISTORICALLY, WE'VE HAD ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF FEDERAL STATE COUNTY POLICY ACTIONS, UH, ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAT DECISION-MAKING, WE RECEIVE REGULAR BRIEFINGS FROM, UH, RADILLA HAWKINS, HAVE THE OFFICER OF TERROR, AS WELL AS OF COURSE, JESSE, UH, AND AS WELL AS, UH, OUR CONSULTANT CO-TAUGHT HARMON. UH, SO NEXT WE LOOK FORWARD TO AN UPDATED BRIEFING. ANY THOUGHTS THERE CONCERNS, OKAY. NINE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION, SMART MOBILITY AND PROJECT CONNECT. I SAID CIS ABOVE, BUT HISTORICALLY WE'VE HAD OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION, ISDN TEAMS, WHICH HAVE EVOLVED OVER TIME AS DEPARTMENTS HAVE CHANGED NEXT SCHEDULE, JASON, JOHN, MICHAEL, AND RELEVANT CAP, METRO CONTACTS, WORKING GROUP DISCUSSION, AS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS THERE? OKAY. NEXT 10 COLLABORATIONS, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT ON LIVED EXPERIENCE AND SHARING WITH TECHNOLOGY. UH, SO ESPECIALLY CALLED MEETINGS HAS BEEN A METHOD. WE'VE DONE THIS, AND WE'VE USED IT WITH EFFECTIVENESS. IT MAY OR MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO HANDLE THAT GOING FORWARD. BASED UPON CHALLENGES WE HAD THE LAST TIME WE TRIED TO DO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, UH, WHICH RESULTED IN US PIVOTING TO DO A SEPARATE ENGAGEMENT ON THE WEEKEND, UH, WITH A DECA PARTNER IN MISSION CAPITAL AS OUR FACILITATOR. IT WAS WELL-RECEIVED. UH, AND IN FACT, IT MADE FOR THE WEEKEND BECAUSE WE WANTED TO LEVERAGE THE TIME THAT PEOPLE HAD TO BE AVAILABLE WITH THEIR FAMILIES, UH, THOSE WORK AND FAMILIES AND MEMBERS WHO NEED IT THE WEEKEND. SO IT'LL, I THINK TRULY NEEDS TO BE STRATEGIC FOR US TO LEVERAGE THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, UH, IN THE FUTURE, UH, FOR THIS TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT. NOT THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO, BUT, UH, IT WOULD NEED TO BE STRATEGIC, LIKE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL PRETTY MUCH SAY ON THAT. AND LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE HAS ANY THOUGHTS I CONSIDER THAT HANDLED AND DEALT WITH NEXT, UH, CIVIC PARTICIPATION AND VIDEO CONFERENCING FROM PUBLIC FACILITIES. SO I PUT UNDER HISTORICAL THE TOWN HALL LISTENING SESSION, UH, MAINLY BECAUSE THAT IS EFFECTIVELY THE MANIFESTATION OF THIS OBJECTIVE AND, AND REALITY, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE NOW HELD TWO ENGAGEMENTS AT OUR LIBRARIES, WHEREIN CITIZENS WERE ABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, A BETTER TERM, ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, UH, REMOTELY AND ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION WITH THOSE IN THE ROOM, UH, IN PUBLIC FACILITIES. AND AT THE TIME, THE AWESOME TECHNOLOGY THAT IS THE OWL, UH, THAT, UH, AMY JOHNSON INTRODUCED TO US, UH, WITH OUR LIBRARY, UH, COLLABORATION, UH, HAS PROVEN TO BE AN AWESOME TOOL THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WOULD FILL THIS NEED, BUT IT LITERALLY HAS ENABLED IT TO HAVE ENGAGED IN MEETINGS WITH TWO OR THREE OR MORE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM WHILE THERE'S A MEETING GOING ON INSIDE THE ROOM. SO, UH, ALL GOOD THERE. UH, NEXT WE WANT TO SEND, THANK YOU. SO THE PARTICIPANTS MANAGE ALL THE FOLLOW-UPS WITH SPECIFIC CLIENTS, UH, AND THEN ITERATE AS WE'VE ALREADY PLANNING TO DO WITH OUR BRIEFING AND NEXT STEP MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE 17TH. I BELIEVE. UH, WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE THE NEXT LISTENING SESSION. UH, THERE'S BEEN A PROSPECTIVE DATE. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MENTION THAT NOW OFFERED OF JULY 6TH. UH, THIS WAS PERSPECTIVE. WE'RE GOING TO RUN THAT BY THE REVIEW COMMITTEE TOO. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT THAT'S FOR EVERYONE HERE, UH, BECAUSE THAT WAS SUGGESTED BY OUR PARTNER. UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE MADE A DECISION TO, TO FOCUS ON THE WEEKEND FOR THESE ENGAGEMENTS, WHICH WILL WE'LL MAKE IT HARDER POTENTIALLY, UH, FOR THE COMMISSIONER, FROM THE INVOLVED DISTRICT TO PARTICIPATE. AND IT'S CERTAINLY BY NO MEANS A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU BE THERE, ALTHOUGH WE DID VOTE [02:55:01] CORE SO THAT YOU COULD BE THERE, UH, AND TO NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT REPRESENTING YOUR DISTRICT AT THAT EVENT, I'LL STILL BE THERE AND WE'LL STILL HAVE A STRONG REPRESENTATION, UH, FROM I THINK, THIS WORKING GROUP AT THOSE EVENTS GOING FORWARD. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, BUT ONE POTENTIAL POTENTIAL DATE. AND THEN LASTLY START PLANNING FOR A DIGITAL INCLUSION WEEK 2022, UH, AND, UH, LARGER SCALE EVENT THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE POTENTIALLY AT THE TRAVIS COUNTY EXPO, UH, WITH COUNTY PARTNERS. UH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WHICH WE DO NEED TO, UH, START PLANNING FOR, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OCTOBER, ANYTHING OF THAT SCALE CERTAINLY REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, A MINIMUM, A QUARTER OF PLANNING, IF NOT TWO CORES. SO WE'RE RIGHT THERE IN THAT LITTLE SWEET SPOT NOW. AND, UH, SO, UH, LET'S PAUSE THERE. ANY QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK OR, OR, UH, DISCUSSION HERE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND KEEP THIS MOVING. UH, LASTLY, UM, YOU HAVE DECA EXPANSION LISTED WITH FUNDING SOURCE IDENTIFICATION AND PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. UH, THESE ITEMS AS OBJECTIVES, I REALLY WOULD REALLY WANT IT TO, UH, HAVE SOME INPUT FROM OUR, UH, CONSULTANT, UH, AS SHE HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON FUNDING AND ALSO, UH, INVOLVED IN MANY PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP DISCUSSIONS AS WELL. SO AS A NEXT STEP FOR BOTH OF THESE IN LIEU OF THE TIMING, I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE TAKE THE SONG AND THE WORKING GROUP, AND THAT WE MAKE SURE TO INVITE COATS ON TO THAT DISCUSSION. AND THAT WAY WE CAN HOPEFULLY ADVANCE THAT. NOW, UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS LAST ONE OR THE FEEDBACK OKAY. WITH THAT, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SWITCH GEARS TO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OVERALL COMMISSION OBJECTIVES. UH, THESE ARE QUESTIONS BEGINNING WITH THE FIRST AND WHAT I LOOK FOR HERE, UM, FRANKLY, IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERHAPS COMBINE QUESTIONS, UH, REMOVE, UH, AND, OR JUST AN AFFIRMATIVE IF WE THINK THEY SHOULD STAY. SO BEGINNING WITH THE FIRST, HOW MIGHT THE COMMISSION ENCOURAGE AND MONITOR THE DEPLOYMENT ADOPTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF SMALL CELL AND OTHER ADVANCED, ADVANCED SLASH UPCOMING TECHNOLOGIES, INCLUDING POSSIBLY EXTENDING SOME SERVICES THERE IS BEYOND THE DOWNTOWN AREA. UH, THIS IS SOMETHING I'D SAY YES TO, AND ALSO SOMETHING WHICH, UH, AS A QUESTION IS ADDRESSED IN A VARIETY OF OUR WORKING GROUP OBJECTIVES ALREADY, WOULD EVERYONE AGREE? I'M SEEING NODS, EVERYONE AGREE. I THINK THAT MOST OF THESE ALL ARE ALREADY IN ONE OF THE WORKING GROUPS. AND SO I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT, UH, NUMBER TWO, UH, BUT THAT WAS, UH, NOW IT'S NUMBER FIVE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, SO SURE IS IT SURE IS. IN FACT, I'M SEEING A PATTERN HERE. HOW MIGHT THE CITY COMMISSIONER BUY IT OUTSIDE? IT'S SMALL. OKAY. SO NUMBER THREE STANDS OUT. HOW MIGHT THE COMMISSIONER PROVIDE CITIZEN OVERSIGHT AND INSIGHT OVER AND INSIGHT INTO SMART CITY AND GOVERNMENT? BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT'S PHRASED AS A QUESTION, BUT IT IS ALREADY AN OBJECTIVE IN. AND SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SEE IF THIS BEARS OUT. CAUSE IF SO, THEN WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER THIS DONE. I MIGHT'VE COMMISSIONED WORK WITH OTHER COMMISSIONS AND ACROSS ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION. OKAY. THAT IS ONE THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IT AS AN OVERALL COMMISSION OBJECTIVE, BUT IT'S BORN OUT. SO CHECK FIVE. HOW MIGHT A, YES, I'M SORRY. YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY TO HAVE IN MY MIND TO HAVE THESE AS, UH, REDUNDANT STATEMENTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE COVERED IN A WORKING GROUP, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT THE WORKING GROUP, WE WORK AT A CERTAIN LEVEL. WHEREAS AT THE COMMISSIONER LEVEL, WE TAKE A MUCH MORE OVERARCHING VIEW, A GRADE GRID HAVING, LET'S SAY NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS ALMOST A REPETITION OF SOMETHING IN THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND INNOVATION WORKING GROUP. IT'S OKAY. BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF DISCUSSION AT THE COMMISSIONER LEVEL, INCLUDING EVERYBODY ELSE WHO ARE NOT PART OF THE WORKING [03:00:01] GROUP. UNDERSTOOD. LET ME PROPOSE SOMETHING WITH THAT IN MIND, LET'S GO THROUGH THESE QUESTIONS AND AS WE'VE KIND OF DONE IT ALREADY IN PATTERN, LET'S JUST SAY YES OR NO. IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION BEING ANSWERED BY THE OBJECTIVES WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH WITH THE OTHER WORKING GROUPS. DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? OKAY, GREAT. SO THEN WITH NUMBER FOUR, WE'VE ALREADY HOW EFFECTIVELY DEMONSTRATED, RIGHT? WE'VE DEMONSTRATED A COLLABORATION WITH THE LIBRARY COMMISSION. THAT'S HOW RIGHT. SO CHECK FIVE. HOW MIGHT THIS COMMISSION USE CITY TECHNOLOGY TO PROMOTE CIVIC PARTICIPATION, TRANSPARENCY, OPEN DATA AND PARTNERING WITH CARRIERS, INCLUDING POSSIBLY PROVIDING CITY INCENTIVES, TO CURIOUS, TO DELIVER EQUITABLE ACCESS TO SERVICES BY CITIZENS CHECK. ALTHOUGH I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE COMMUNITY MEMBERS INSTEAD OF CITIZENS. I SAY, CHECK WITH THE EXAMPLE WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED ABOUT ESTABLISHING A BROADBAND STANDARD AND THEN PROVIDING THEM THE INCENTIVE OF COMPETITION TO PROVIDE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. RIGHT? THAT'S A CLEAR EXAMPLE, CHECK SIX. HOW MIGHT THIS COMMISSION ADVISORY COUNCIL ON HOW TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATION SERVICES IN UNDERSERVED AREAS OF AUSTIN, PARTICULARLY DURING TIMES OF A MARRIOTT OF EMERGENCY, OKAY. HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT AND HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN THE OBJECTIVES? I WOULD SAY CHECK WOULD BE BY ENABLING REMOTE PARTICIPATION, RIGHT, BY ENCOURAGING AS WE DID EFFECTIVELY THAT THE CITY KEEP DIAL IN REMOTE DISSIPATION BY ITS COMMUNITY MEMBERS, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF HOW WE DID IT. SO CHECK SEVEN, HOW MIGHT THIS COMMISSION WORK WITH THE CITY AND CAP METRO TO ENSURE THAT ALL TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE IMPLEMENTED IN A WAY THAT ENABLES PERMITS ENABLES OR PERMIT SIMULTANEOUS UPGRADES TO THE COMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE. SO, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, THAT QUESTION IS ALREADY INCLUDED AS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY SAY CHECK ON THAT. AND THAT COMPLETES THIS MASTER DOCUMENT. NOW, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, UM, CHANGES TO THIS, THAT AFFECT WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS, ALL SIMPLY REQUIRE A VOTE OF THE MAJORITY. YOU KNOW, CONSENSUS SHOULD BE BUILT, HOPEFULLY DISCUSSION AT THE WORKING GROUPS, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE ADDITIONAL CHANGES, BUT THAT'S ALL IT TAKES. SO WE KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS OUR, THE COMPLETION OF A WORK PLAN RETREAT, SO TO SPEAK, IT'S NOT BY NO MEANS THE COMPLETION OF OUR WORK PLAN. THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FEEL AS THOUGH WE'RE LEAVING HERE WITHOUT HAVING COMPLETED OUR WORK. EVEN IF WE KNOW WE'RE EXHAUSTED AND WE WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE. RIGHT? SO WITH THAT, UM, I WOULD MOVE FOR I'M MOVING THAT WE AGREE THAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED A SATISFACTORY END TO THIS WORK PLAN DISCUSSION BASED UPON THE EDITS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT JESSE IS GOING TO HAS NOTED ON THE RECORD, THAT WILL THEN BE PART OF, OF COURSE, A RECORD FOR US TO AGREE TO FORMALLY. AND I LOOKED FOR A SECOND. OKAY. THAT MOTION WAS INITIATED BY ME AND SECONDED WITH THAT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HOLD A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THIS WORK PLAN DOCUMENT AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED, MOVED BY MYSELF AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. DASGUPTA ALL. PLEASE SAY, AYE, AND SHOW YOUR HAND. IS ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY, WELL THEN WE'VE AGREED. UH, NOW SEVEN IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO ABSTAINING, UH, AND ZERO, OPPOSED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR NEW WORK PLAN RETREAT DOCUMENT COMPLETED. SO WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL PURSUED, UH, PROCEED IN OUR AGENDA QUICKLY. UH, BECAUSE NOW WE GO TO THREE COMMISSION UPDATES AND HAVING EXTENSIVELY COVERED EVERY WORKING GROUP. THIS WILL BE THE FASTEST TIME WE EVER COVERED THIS. SO, UH, WITH A UNDER DIGITAL INCLUSION, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, STRATEGIC TECHNOLOGY, TELECOM POLICY WORKING GROUP, UH, WE'VE ALREADY COVERED EVERYTHING. I'D LIKE TO PASS IT WITH [3b. Knowledge, Information, and Data Stewardship Working Group] THE AGENDA ITEM THREE B TO THE WORKING GROUP CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, APODACA, TO GO AHEAD AND COVER THAT WORKING GROUP. UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, [03:05:01] I FEEL LIKE WE COVERED IT PRETTY WELL. UM, WE HAVE A MEETING SET UP OUR NEXT WORKING GROUP SESSION WITH REMIND ME OF THE INDIVIDUAL'S NAME. IT'S LATE IN THE NIGHT. UH, OKAY. UH, JASON, JOHN, MICHAEL, JASON, JOHN, MICHAEL'S COMING TO OUR NEXT GROUP. THAT'S FOR ME, SORT OF THE KEY TAKEAWAY, UM, FOR A NUMBER OF THE TOPICS THAT WE'LL BE COVERING ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD ADD COMMISSIONER FLOYD? NO, I THINK WE EXHAUSTEDLY COVERED WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING. AND, UH, YEAH, WE'RE JUST CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION WITH JASON DUNN, MICHAEL, THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE OTHER PREVIOUS MEETINGS. ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, THEN WE CAN TRANSITION TO OUR NEXT WORKING GROUP AND I'LL PASS IT TO THE WORKING GROUP CHAIR, COMMISSIONER FLOOD. OKAY. I WAS NOT AT THE LAST WORKING GROUP MEETING, HOWEVER, UM, WE HAVE TONIGHT ALSO EXHAUSTIVELY COVERED EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, UH, FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. UM, AND, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL CONTINUE DOING OUR SAME WORK MOVING FORWARD. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO ADD TO, YEAH. I'D LIKE TO ADD SOME COMMENTS SINCE I WAS THERE. THIS IS MY LAST REPORT AS A CO-CHAIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH HERE. CHAIR FLOYD FOR, UH, TAKING THE RESPONSIBILITY OFF MY SHOULDERS. BUT IN THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, WE SPEND ACTUALLY THE FIRST HALF WHERE, UM, CHAIR BIDS BROUGHT ME UP TO SPEED BECAUSE I HAD MISSED THE, UH, THE PREVIOUS MEETING. AND, UM, SO, AND THEN WE DISCUSSED BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AS PART OF THE WORK PLAN, THAT MEETING WAS BASICALLY A PREPARATION OR WHAT I WROTE DOWN. EXCELLENT. SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY. OKAY. I HAVE A FINAL COMMENT, PLEASE. I JUST WANT TO SAY COMMISSIONER MUSCULAR. YOU'VE BEEN AN EXCELLENT, IT'S BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT LEADER ON THIS, ON THIS WORKING GROUP AND, UM, I'M GLAD YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA STAY ON IT. AND, AND I HAVE A BIG ROLE TO FILL FOLLOWING UP AS THE SOLE CO-CHAIR, BUT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, BEING A MEMBER VERY WELL SAID. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, COMMISSIONER FLOYD AND COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA. I DEFINITELY CONCUR WITH THOSE STATEMENTS, APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICES CHAIR OF THAT WORKING GROUP. OKAY. WITH THAT. THEN WE GO TO A FUTURE [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] AGENDA ITEMS. UM, AND WE KNOW THAT, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED A FEW OF THEM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RESOLUTION DRAFTS TO DISCUSS AROUND INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'LL DEFINITELY BE A POINT TO LIST. THERE'S A POTENTIAL PRESENTATION ON THE HISTORY OF AUSTIN THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE INCLUDED IN THAT SPEAKING TO THE HISTORICAL DYNAMICS, THAT IMPACT A LOT. A LOT OF THE DECISIONS MADE THE STRATEGY AND OF THE CITY AROUND DIGITAL INCLUSION. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT ARE TOP OF MIND RIGHT NOW IS ANYTHING ELSE COME TO MIND FOR ANYONE AS A PRIORITY. OKAY. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO QUESTION A YES, PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD. AS FAR AS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, DO WE HAVE A PLAN WHEN WE CAN ASK THE SMART CITIES FOLKS TO COME BACK AND TALK TO US FROM THE MIDDLEWARE? UH, WELL I THINK OUR PENDING DISCUSSION WITH THE ISS TEAM WILL HELP TO MOVE THAT ALONG AND, AND CONFIRM WHEN THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE. SINCE WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE THE WORKING GROUP DISCUSSION PENDING. I SAY WE USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REQUEST THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THEN WITH THAT THEN, UH, I JUST NEED TO HAVE EMOTION FOR A GERMAN AND THE SECOND, AND THEN WE CAN HOLD THE VOTE. I MOVED TO JORDAN A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. IT'S NOT SOME BEAVERS WITH THAT. ALL IN FAVOR OF A GERMAN, PLEASE SAY AYE, AND SHOW YOUR HAND. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED? AND NO ONE WAS STANDING. OKAY. SO WE ARE ADJOURNED 7 2 0. THANKS EVERYBODY. HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. THANK YOU FOR YOU FOR YOUR ENERGY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [03:10:12] WELL, IT'S A SIMPLE SONG WITH WORDS WRITTEN FROM THE FIRST SCORE THAT I EVER LEARNED IN SINGING SOFT TO THE WINDS OF THE DAY, COME AND CARRY THIS BREAKAWAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.