* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order] [00:00:07] AND, UH, IT'S YOUR CHAIR. I'M BRINGING THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 6 0 9. THE DATE IS MAY 24TH, 2022. UM, WE CAN DO A QUICK ROLL CALL AND I'LL START WITH THOSE ON THE DIOCESE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THOSE, UH, ON THE SCREEN. SO STARTING HERE WITH COMMISSIONER ANDERSON HERE, AND I'M YOUR CHAIR, TODD SHAW. AND I'M PRESENT AND, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HERE. AND THEN IN THE ORDER, I SEE YOU GUYS ON THE SCREEN. I SEE A COMMISSIONER IS OUR COMMISSIONER YANNIS, PALITO, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER COPPS, UH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD HERE, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER HERE. AND CURRENTLY THOSE ARE SO THAT'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8. UH, SO WE'RE JUST AT QUORUM WE HAVE OUT TODAY. UM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. MR. RIVERA, UH, COMMISSIONER MOOSE, TODDLER, COMMISSIONER SHEA. AND I THINK WE HAD ONE MORE. OH, I'M SORRY. VICE CHAIR PAMPHLETS OUT. SO THOSE THREE. SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A FEW OTHERS JOINING US HERE SHORTLY. UM, [PUBLIC COMMUNICATION] ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO OUR FIRST ITEM, WHICH IS, UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION AND IT'S A VERY SPECIAL, UH, UH, WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL GUESTS TODAY. WE HAVE, UM, THE SCOUT DEN FIVE FROM PAC 81 AND THE DEN LEADER IS, UH, ROBERT MOORE AND WE HAVE SCOUTS, AIDEN TALLEY, LUCAS BROWN, AND TREY MOORE. UM, PLEASE COME UP AND, UH, YOU CAN COME UP HERE TO THE FRONT AND JUST LINE UP AND SPEAK ONE AT A TIME AND WHATEVER ORDER, UH, INTRODUCED. SO JUST TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND, UM, YEAH, YOU GUYS EACH HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES, SO WHOEVER WANTS TO GO FIRST. HI, MY NAME IS TREY MOORE AND, AND I WOULD LIKE MORE RECESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I THINK WE ALL NEED A LITTLE MORE RECESS. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS LUCAS AND I WOULD LIKE MORE, I WOULD LIKE BENTYL LUNCH. UH, I, MY NAME IS AIDEN TALLY, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. GOOD EVENING. UH, I WANTED, UH, MY NAME IS CHRIS TALLEY AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US OUT HERE TONIGHT. UH, AS A NATIVE OF AUSTIN, UH, I'VE WATCHED IT GROW AND PART TO, UH, NOT JUST THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT TO ALL THESE COMMISSIONS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DAN FIVE, UH, FROM PACK 81. YEAH. AND FEEL FREE. UM, IF YOU WANTED TO STAY A LITTLE WHILE, UH, BUT IF YOU HAVE TO, AT WHATEVER POINT YOU GUYS NEED TO GO, WE UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMUNICATION MR. RIVERA ON THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC AREA? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THROUGH KIND OF SETTING UP OUR, UM, CONSENT AGENDA HERE AND, UH, OH, OKAY. JUST, UH, WANT TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE COMMISSIONER PRAXIS JOINING US. THANK YOU FOR COMING ON. AND I GUESS, UM, UH, MR. RIVERA, I'M GOING TO GO AND READ THROUGH THIS, UH, THE FIRST READING AND CAUSE, UH, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH IT ONE MORE TIME JUST TO CONFIRM. SO LET'S SEE, UH, WE'RE ON ITEM B AND, [Reading of the Agenda] UH, WHAT I'M DOING JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WE'RE GOING TO READ EACH ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY ON OUR AGENDA. AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THESE. UM, WE WILL PASS ON CONSENT THROUGH A VOTE ONCE I GET THROUGH READING THEM, BUT WE'LL ALSO IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE POSTPONED OR THAT WE WILL, UH, HANDLE AS A DISCUSSION CASE. AND THERE'S TWO TYPES, A FEW OF THEM WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD POSTPONE THEM ARE HERE THIS EVENING. AND, UH, ONCE WE MAKE THAT DECISION, IF IT'S DECIDED TO HEAR THEM THIS EVENING, WE WILL TAKE THEM UP IN THE ORDER THAT THEY SH UH, TYPICALLY SHOW UP ON THE AGENDA HERE. UH, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE, [00:05:01] UH, THIS EVENING, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL ALSO THEN MOVE INTO THE, UH, FORMAL DISCUSSION CASES AFTER THAT. SO THE FIRST THING WE'RE DOING, AS I SAID IS JUST STABLISH THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT. I'M GOING TO READ IT ONCE AND THEN WE'LL CONFIRM IT AND THEN WE'LL GO AND TAKE A VOTE ON IT AFTER THAT. SO, UH, I'M GOING TO GO AND READ THROUGH THE ITEMS IN, UH, A AND WE'RE GOING TO ROLL THIS INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WELL, OR THE MINUTES TO THE LAST MEETING WE HAD ON MAY 10TH. SO COMMISSIONERS, DO WE, UH, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE AND DO YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE, UH, MINUTES POSTED IT'S IN THE BACKUP? SURE. YES. I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO RECONSIDER A VOTE FROM LAST MEETING AND I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHEN IS THE BEST TIME REQUEST THAT, UM, FOR, SO IS THAT ON THE AGENDA? I'M, DON'T HAVE MY PARLIAMENTARIAN. SO MR. RIVERA MIGHT NEED SOME HELP FROM YOU. IS THAT AN ITEM THAT'S CURRENTLY? WELL, IF WE DID WE VOTE ON IT LAST TIME AND DID IT, UM, WHAT WAS THE STATUS OF THE ITEM? DID WE, OH, THE ITEM WAS THE ASN P VOTE AND IT WAS UNANIMOUS, BUT I HADN'T, I WAS GOT REALLY CONFUSED IN THE PROCESS. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME, BUT I'D LIKE TO RECORD MY VOTE DIFFERENTLY IN A COUPLE OF PLACES. OKAY. SO THE PROCESS IS WE, IT HAS. OKAY. SO WE ALL VOTED ON IT. SO YOU'RE IN THE MAJORITY. JORAH THE, SO GO AHEAD AND RUN THAT PROCESS THROUGH WITH US ONE MORE TIME, MR. RIVERA CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON WHILE ROBERT'S RULES HAS ITS OWN PROCEDURES. THIS FALLS UNDER YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURE AND YOUR ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE. THE IRA NEED TO BE NOTICED PRIOR TO THE MEETING FOR RECONSIDERATION. CORRECT. SO WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION. CAN WE TAKE ACTION THE FOLLOWING MEETING, OR IS THAT TOO LATE? THAT'S TOO LATE. OKAY. SO WHAT I'M HEARING COMMISSIONER YOU AND IS BLEEDING, IS THAT, WOULD IT NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP SOONER SO WE COULD GET IT ON THE AGENDA? SO WE CAN'T TAKE THAT UP THIS EVENING NOR CAN WE TAKE IT UP IN FUTURE AGENDAS? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. I'M SORRY. YEAH. SO JUST FOR ALL OF YOU, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT YOU WANT RECONSIDERED, PLEASE LET MR. RIVERA KNOW AT, UH, BEFORE THE DEADLINE FOR POSTING THE AGENDA. OKAY. UH, LET'S GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO READ THROUGH THESE ITEMS. UM, SO WE HAVE THE FIRST APPROVAL OF MINUTES. UH, WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, READING THROUGH THE ITEMS AND SECTION B PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, B ONE PLAN AMENDMENT@MPATWENTYTWENTYONEZEROZEROZEROFIVE.ZERO TWO ON TOP LIST MULTIFAMILY. THIS IS, UH, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 12TH. IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF ITEM B TO REZONING C 8 1 4 0 6 DASH 0 1 7 FIVE.ZERO THREE EAST AVENUE, PUD, UH, STAFF, INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT, UH, RECOMMENDATION IT'S PENDING ITEM B3. THIS IS ZONING AND REZONING. UH, SEAT 8 1 4 DASH 2 0 2 1 DASH 0 9 9 DASH BRODY OAKS PUD STAFF, INDEFINITE, POSTPONEMENT AND RECOMMENDATION IS PENDING ON A BEFORE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT. THIS IS A 14 R DASH EIGHT ONE DASH ZERO, I'M SORRY. 0 3 3 RCA BRODY OAKS RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT. UH, THIS IS A STAFF INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS PENDING ITEM B FIVE PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 1 SEVEN.ZERO 2 7 3 0 1 BURNETT ROAD. UH, THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND IT HAS BEEN, UH, PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. SO WE WILL HEAR THAT ONE THIS EVENING, B SIX PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, NPA DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 1 9 DASH.ZERO ONE DOT S H K D LOSS. AND THIS IS, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, UH, FROM THE HANCOCK CAN PACT. UH, THEY WOULD LIKE IT POSTPONED IT JUNE 28TH, BUT THE, UH, APPLICANT DISAGREES. SO WE'LL BE HEARING THIS UPFRONT IS ONE OF THOSE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENTS I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, AND THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, [00:10:01] UH, ITEM B SEVEN. THIS IS THE ASSOCIATED, UH, ZONING CASE TO ITEM B SIX. IT IS A C 14 DASH 2022 DEVS. THERE WAS 0 1 9 DOT S H D LOSS. AND THIS IS ALSO ON DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. AND THIS IS RECOMMENDATION, A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF . SO AN A B EIGHT PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 21 0 0 2 ONE.ZERO TO 14, 0 6 THROUGH 1506 PARKER LANE. THIS IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 12TH. RECOMMENDATION IS PENDING ITEM B NINE, REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 3 9 DASH 14 14 0 6 3 15 0 6 PARKER LANE. UH, THIS IS THE REZONING IT'S ALSO POSTPONE TILL JULY 12TH, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS PENDING ITEM B 10 REZONING C 14, TEST 2022 AS SARAH 0 3 8 DASH. UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS AT 2320 EAST RIVERSIDE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. UH, THIS IS, WE HAD A COMMISSIONER PRACTICES RECOMMEND, UH, REQUEST THAT THIS BE POLLED. SO WE'LL HAVE THIS AS A DISCUSSION ITEM AS WELL. IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF B 11 REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DEATHS. THERE ARE 0 1 1 WEST FIT WITH, UH, SORRY, WEST 15TH, 16TH, UH, LAMB. AND THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF TO DMU DASH C O. UM, THIS IS ON CONSENT FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, B 12 FREE ZONING, C 14 20 22 DASH 0 0 0 9 50 FIRST STREET RESIDENCES. UH, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. UH, THIS IS A DISCUSSION CASE, SO IT WOULD BE TAKING THAT ONE UP THIS EVENING, B 13, REZONING C 14 DASH 20 22 0 1 7 HUDSON PLACE. THIS ONE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS MP3 AND HE, UH, IN HIS ON CONSENT FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, B 14, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 3 1 RE MOVE VEHICULAR ACCESS RESTRICTION TO MORA STREET. UM, THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND THIS IS, UH, FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, B 15 SITE PLAN HAD A ABILITY WAIVER REQUEST SP 20 21 0 1 0 2 C AT 1400 CEDAR AVENUE. UH, THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. UM, WE HA IT'S DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT APPLICANT WANTS TO HEAR IT THIS EVENING, CHESTNUT NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, CONTACT TEAM ONCE POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JUNE 28TH. SO THIS'LL BE OUR SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT CASE COMING UP HERE SHORTLY. UH, B 16 PRELIMINARY PLAN S C H J 20 21 0 0 6 6, WHISPER VALLEY MULTIFAMILY PARCEL 65. UH, THIS IS DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C B 17, FINAL PLAT C EIGHT DASH 20 20 0 1 9 ONE.ZERO, A WALTON WOODS SECTION TWO FINAL PLANT. UH, THIS IS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS IN EXHIBIT C. UH, THAT IS, YEAH, THAT IS ALSO ON CONSENT. UH, B 18 LONG RANGE CIP PLANNING, UM, 2021 THROUGH 2023 LONG RANGE PLANNING MEMO. UH, RIGHT NOW I JUST WANT TO NOTE THIS, THIS WAS, UH, REVIEWED AND APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE. THANK YOU ALL THAT ARE ON THAT COMMITTEE. AND THIS IS ALSO ON CONSENT. SO MR. RIVERA, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS, UM, THIS EVENING THAT HAVE BEEN THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSION ITEMS? SURE. THE PROPOSED CONSENT IS READY AS PRESENTED. OKAY. UM, IT'S REAL QUICK. LET'S JUST RUN THROUGH D ANY COMMISSIONERS NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM ANY OF THE ITEMS, THE SAME THING. OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY, UH, SO WE'RE MOVING ON. UM, I'M GONNA READ THESE OUT QUICKLY. ONE MORE TIME. YEAH. MISSION LAYS ON ANDOVER. MY APOLOGIES. UM, PLEASE NOTE THAT B 13 WILL BE A DISCUSSION CASE. I HAVE TWO SPEAKERS PRESENT IN OPPOSITION OKAY. SO WE HAVE A, SO THAT'LL BE JUST PULLED FORWARD DISCUSSION. OKAY. NO. OKAY. [00:15:01] ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WILL ADD TO OUR DISCUSSION CASES IT'S EVENING. OKAY. LET ME GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY TO CONFIRM WHAT'S ON THE CONSENT AND WHAT'S ON DISCUSSION OKAY. UH, SO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE FIRST, OUR MINUTES FROM MAY 10TH. UM, WE HAVE, UH, IS, UH, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 12TH, BE TO REZONING STAFF, INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT V3 SONIAN RE UH, ZONING AND REZONING IS STAFF INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT BEFORE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT STAFF, INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT B FIVE, A DISCUSSION THESE SIX PLAN AMENDMENT. UH, THIS'LL BE OUR FIRST DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT AND I'LL RUN THROUGH THE, UH, KIND OF THE RULE LIST OF THAT BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UH, B SEVEN REZONING. THIS IS ALSO DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT B EIGHT STAFF POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JULY 12TH, BENIGN REZONING STAFF POSTPONEMENTS, JULY 12TH, B 10 REZONING. THIS ONE IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION B 11 IS REZONING CONSENT STAFF, UH, FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, B 12 IS FOR DISCUSSION. THE 13 IS FOR DISCUSSION. THE 14 IS FOR DISCUSSION B 15. UH, THIS IS OUR SECOND DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, UH, B 16. THIS IS DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS, UH, SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C 17, UH, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C AND B 18 IS THE LONG RANGE CIP PLAN, WHICH WILL GO ON CONSENT. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, [Consent Agenda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tems B6 & B7 (Part 1 of 2)] ITEM B SIX AND, UH, MR. RIVERA, WE HAVE TWO, UH, SPEAKERS THAT ARE FOR THE POSTPONEMENT AND TWO THAT ARE SPEAKING AGAINST, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT CHAIR. SO, FIRST OF ALL, I HEAR HER FROM MR. COHEN, DELLA HUNTING. MR. DELEHANTY, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. I BELIEVE I HAVE SOME SLIDES AS WELL TO GO WITH MY PRESENTATION. UM, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. HI EVERYONE. I'M COLIN DILLAHUNTY, PRESIDENT OF THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND ALSO A CLOSE BY NEIGHBOR OF THE PROPOSED KATIE LOFTS DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING A FORUM TO HEAR OUR CONCERNS AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. SO TO UPDATE YOU ON WHERE WE ARE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, SINCE OUR FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON MAY 10TH, WHERE POSTPONEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS WAS GRANTED, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SOME PROGRESS TO DETERMINE THE IMPACT OF THE PROJECT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THROUGH A MEETING AT KANPAK, UNFORTUNATELY, [00:20:01] THAT HASN'T RESULTED IN A WORKABLE CONSENSUS WITH THE DEVELOPERS SINCE THE STATE FUNDING APPLICATION PROCESS FREEZES THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND UNIT MIX. FORTUNATELY, WE'VE RECEIVED WRITTEN CONFIRMATION FROM SAFE THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES ARE AVAILABLE FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECTS. MEANING THE STATE FUNDING IS NO LONGER THE ONLY SOURCE OF FUNDING, AND THERE'S NO LONGER A SCARCITY OF FUNDS DRIVING US TO MAKE THE HARD CHOICE BETWEEN KATIE LOFTS AND THE LANCASTER. WE CAN DO BOTH. PERHAPS THIS CAN ALSO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE TIMELINE AND AN ABILITY TO FINALLY ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT COMPATIBLE DENSITY AND A MIX OF SRO AND FAMILY UNITS. FOR THE NEXT SLIDE, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AN EXPERT ANALYSIS HAS REQUIRED SEVERAL EMISSIONS BY STAFF IN THE STAFF REPORT. WEREN'T FURTHER ANALYSIS. THE STAFF FAILED TO PROVIDE ANY TRANSIT REPORT OR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ANALYSIS. THE STAFF REPORTS MENTIONED A BIKE LANE ON ANOTHER STREET AND QUICKLY GLOSSES OVER THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS ON 39TH STREET, WHICH IS A NARROW STREET WITH PARKING ON BOTH SIDES. THIS ALSO RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. MANY OF WHOM COULD BE RESIDENTS OF KATIE LOFTS. A CIVIL ENGINEER IS REQUIRED TO ANALYZE THE TRUE PLANNING ISSUES INVOLVED FURTHER PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE ISSUES ARE ALSO OF A CONCERN, ESPECIALLY GIVEN ANOTHER EMISSION IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THIS PROJECT IS FOR PEOPLE FORMERLY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, A PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERT CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL IMPLICATIONS FOR INCREASED CRIME RISK BY PLACING VULNERABLE A VULNERABLE POPULATION IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A CRIME IMPACTED LOCATION, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE CORRIDOR. AND FINALLY, FOR DUE PROCESS IN THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT NOTIFICATION THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN RESEARCHING FOR US. IT SEEMS THOSE HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT FURTHER ALSO MULTIPLE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS HAVE BEEN SENT TO THE CITY BY OUR GROUP. ONE REQUEST WAS FULFILLED LAST WEEK, BUT ANOTHER REQUEST MADE ON THE SAME DAY WILL NOT BE READY UNTIL JUNE 16TH, THEREFORE H AND A NEEDS TIME TO REVIEW IT. WE ALSO NEED TIME TO WORK WITH OUR EXPERTS TO ANSWER SITE-SPECIFIC ZONING CONCERNS AND LEGAL ISSUES, INCLUDING POTENTIAL ISSUES. ALEXA, RELATED TO THE TEXAS STATE LAW FOR ZONING, INCLUDING SPOT ZONING AND CONTRACT ZONING POTENTIAL ISSUES. AND FINALLY, OUR REQUESTS POSTPONEMENT UNTIL THE JUNE 28TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME FOR EXPERT ANALYSIS AND WOULD PROMOTE COMPROMISE FOR THE BEST PLAN INDEPENDENT FROM EXTERNAL CONSTRAINTS FOR STATE FUNDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM KEN PAC REPRESENTATIVE BART'S WATLEY. MR. WALTON, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. I'M BART WILDLY WITH CAM PACK IT'S CENTRAL AUSTIN COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UH, NEIGHBOR PLANNING TEAM. AND, UH, WE WERE SUPPORTIVE OF A POSTPONEMENT, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A BIG ZONING CHANGE. AND, UM, SINCE THE TAX CREDIT APPLICATION HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED AND A PERMANENT CHANGE TO THE ZONING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN JUST SEEMS PREMATURE BECAUSE THE ZONING OF COURSE GOES WITH THE PROPERTY AND NOT WITH APPLICATION. UH, SO AT THIS TIME WE ASKED AN APRIL PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING CHANGE BOTH BE POSTPONED SO THAT THEY CAN BE RECONSIDERED ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY AND HAD THEIR PROJECT, UH, APPROVED. THANKS CHAPTER ONE OUT HERE FROM THE OPPOSITION TO THE POSTPONEMENT BEGINNING WITH MS. MEGAN LASH FOLLOWED BY MR. PAUL COLA. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, MEGAN LASH. I'LL BE HONEST. I'M A LITTLE SHOOK TONIGHT BASED ON THE NEWS THAT CAME OUT RIGHT BEFORE I LEFT THE OFFICE. UM, FIVE YEARS AGO TODAY, I WAS GIVING BIRTH TO MY SON RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK. AND THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT ARE GRIEVING RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A COUPLE SECONDS TO GIVE THEM A MOMENT OF SILENCE OUT OF MY TIME. I HOPE THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE WON'T BE SILENT. WE FACE ISSUES LIKE THIS ON A DAILY BASIS. AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION, I AGREED TO DELAY THIS CASE AND EFFORT TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE SENT SEVERAL EMAILS AND ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL MEETINGS. WE HAD THE KANPAK MEETING. WE SPENT TWO HOURS THERE PRESENTING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE KANPAK GROUP WHO ARE QUITE LOVELY, BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK [00:25:01] TO OUR SITE PLAN THAT OR ANY REQUESTS OTHER THAN THEY NEED TO GATHER MORE EVIDENCE AND NEED MORE TIME TO HAVE THEIR OWN EXPERTS ANALYZE THE ZONING CASE. WE WERE SPENDING MORE ENERGY FIGHTING THIS MUCH NEEDED HOUSING THAN WORKING TOGETHER. I'M SORRY FOR THAT. I WISH IT COULD BE DIFFERENT. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ZONING CASE SO WE CAN HELP HOUSE PEOPLE AND GET TO WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. JOHN POLLOCK ON LINE. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. NOT GOING TO GET RID OF ME ANYMORE. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ONLY DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THE POSTPONEMENT, BUT THIS IS REALLY A UNIQUE CASE WHERE A POSTPONEMENT REALLY JEOPARDIZES THE CASE ITSELF, JEOPARDIZES A PROJECT THAT THIS COMMUNITY DESPERATELY NEEDS. AND IN ANY CASE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE WHILE AGO, I REMEMBER A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK, I WAS AT A CAMPSITE TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TOLD ME WAS, YOU KNOW, TO LIVE ON THE STREET IS LIKE LIVING IN THE 18TH CENTURY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR WATER FROM BUCKETS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE BUCKETS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE EXPOSED TO A WHOLE RANGE OF DISEASES, UNSANITARY CONDITIONS, HEALTH RISKS, YOUR LIFE EXPECTANCY IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER FOR EVERY YEAR. YOU SPEND ON THE STREET. SO FOR THOSE FOLKS, THIS IS NOT SIMPLY A POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION. THIS IS A LIFE OR DEATH DISCUSSION, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS ISSUE VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY. SO MY PLEA IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME LOVELY SIGNS BACK HERE. THOSE WHO ARE JOINING VIRTUALLY CAN'T SEE THE SIGNS. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS CASE MEANS A LOT TO A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE WAITING, WHO HAVE CALLED IN TO TESTIFY, WHO HAVE SHOWED UP IN PERSON AND TAKE TOOK THEIR TUESDAY NIGHT OFF TO BE HERE. AND TO POSTPONE THIS CASE MEANS TO SEND EVERYONE HOME WHO IS READY TO TESTIFY, WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THIS CASE. SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, OUT OF RESPECT FOR EVERYONE'S TIME AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND OUT OF A SENSE OF GENUINE URGENCY FOR THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW, LET'S HEAR THIS CASE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. IT'S READY FOR DISCUSSION AND DEBATE. COMMISSIONER HAS GIVEN THE SUDDEN INCREASE IN THE CASE LOAD AND THAT WE HAVE, UM, TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING. UH, IF I, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO, UH, SUSPEND OUR RULES TO GO WITH FIVE COMMISSIONERS WITH THREE MINUTES EACH, UH, IF THERE ARE OPPOSITION TO THAT, WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THAT MATTER AS ANYBODY. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH REDUCING TO SECURE AND A, UM, FOR THIS CASE, GIVEN OUR LARGE CASELOAD THIS EVENING, UH, COMMISSIONER AND HIS ARE SURE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK REQUEST OF OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, IF POSSIBLE, CAN WE PLEASE REDUCE DEBATE AND QUESTIONS TONIGHT? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY SEVEN CASES, SEVEN DISCUSSION CASES. AND I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE DO NOT HAVE SUPER MAJORITY PRESENT TODAY SO THAT WE CANNOT EVEN CALL THE QUESTION. YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE FULL CASE UNLESS OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS DECIDE TO COME TOGETHER AND MOVE FORWARD WHEREVER WE CAN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A DINE CRUNCH AND I WILL SHARE WHAT I SHARED WITH MR. RIVERA BEFORE THAT I DO HAVE A TIME LIMITATION. SO I WILL HAVE TO LEAVE AT WHICH POINT THE REMAINING COMMISSIONERS WILL BECOME SEVEN. SO NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO LEAVE WITHOUT, AND YOU WILL REQUIRE ALL VOTES NOT TO MOVE FORWARD IN ANY ACTIVE. SO JUST LOOKING AT THAT, I HOPE WE CAN SPEAK TO THINGS TO ME IN COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. UM, SO I'M NOT HEARING ANY OPPOSITION AT THIS POINT JUST TO REDUCE QUESTIONS. SO WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE Q AND A, UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, WHO HAS THE FIRST QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, I'M SORRY, NOT STAFF FOR EITHER THE, UM, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES OR THE APPLICANT, ANYBODY, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. UH, THE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT PLEASE, MS. SLASH. YES, SIR. UH, SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, INDICATED THAT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES AVAILABLE FOR FUNDING OF THIS PROJECT. UM, YOU DIDN'T COMMENT THAT, UH, ON THAT WHEN YOU SPOKE, CAN YOU, UM, TALK ABOUT WHETHER THAT IS A VIABLE SOLUTION OR, UM, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR VIEW OF THAT IS PLACE THAT IS BEING DERIVED FROM AN EMAIL THEY RECEIVED FROM SAFE. I DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE FUNDS. UM, SAFE IS A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION. UM, I, DON'T NOT FRANKLY KNOW WHAT THOSE FUNDS ARE, UM, NOR CAN I SPEAK TO THEM. WE ARE PROCURING [00:30:01] TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, 9% HOUSING TAX CREDITS. THAT IS THE PRIMARY TOOL, UM, FOR CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND IT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING OTHER THAN THE CITY OF BOSTON'S TO HELP CREATE THIS HOUSING. SO THE BURDEN DOESN'T FULLY LAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF CITY OF BOSTON, BUT THOSE ARE FUNDS THAT I DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. UM, AND, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT WAS PHRASED THAT WAY, BUT I'M HOPING THAT THEY DO HAVE ANOTHER SOURCE, UM, FOR THEIR PROJECT. SO JUST A REMINDER, LET'S JUST KEEP THIS ON THE MERITS OF COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE POSTPONEMENT. UM, JUST WANT TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON OUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. SORRY, CHAIR. OKAY. [B7. Rezoning: C14-2022-0019.SH - Cady Lofts; District 9] AND JUST A REMINDER, WE, AND IF IT WASN'T CLEAR, UM, WE'RE TAKING UP , WHICH ARE BOTH, UM, IT'S THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING. UM, SO WE'RE TAKING UP BOTH THOSE ITEMS. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER BIZARRE. IF WE DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT AND HERE THE CASE TONIGHT, RIGHT. UH, HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? UM, JUST, I THINK LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE, YOU THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO AT LEAST MAKE A DISCUSSION TODAY, FORWARDED TO COUNCIL. IF WE THINK THAT THIS IS READY TO GO FORWARD, UM, DISCUSS IT, TRY AND LET COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TIMELINE BETWEEN COMING TO US AND GOING TO COUNSELING. I THINK SOME OF THOSE ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED WITH MEAN THAT I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN TRYING TO RESPOND TO THE NEWSROOM. ALRIGHT. UH, THOSE SPEAKING AGAINST THIS MOTION. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE FAR AGAINST ANY LESS SPEAKERS? ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, TAKE A VOTE. THIS IS TO NOT DENY THE REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT. UH, FREIDMAN'S B SIX AND B SEVEN MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. IT'S OUR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. LET ME GO ON AND GET THE, UH, VOTE OF THOSE ON THE DIOCESE FOR DENIAL AND THOSE LET'S SEE, COMMISSIONER HOWARD, ARE YOU PRESENT? ALL RIGHT. UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, YEAH, THERE WE GO. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, AND THREE. SO THAT NINE TO ZERO. SO WE'LL BE HEARING THIS CASE LATER THIS WEEK. SECOND DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. LET ME FIND IT TOO HERE. OKAY. UH, THIS IS [B15. Site Plan - Compatibility Waiver Request: SP-2021-0102C - 1400 Cedar Ave; District 1] THIS ITEM, UH, E 15 SITE PLAN COMPATIBILITY WAIVER REQUEST. UH, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, START WITH, UM, CHESTNUT NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM OR THOSE TWO WE HAVE REPRESENTED. AND THEY'RE THE ONES REQUESTING POSTPONEMENT THIS EVENING, MR. RIVERA. SURE. THAT IS CORRECT. UH, DO I HAVE MR. DAVID CARROLL PRESENT ON THE TELECONFERENCE OR PRESENT? UM, TH THIS IS IAN'S OR ZOLA? I BELIEVE I WAS DESIGNATED, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE CHESTNUT NEIGHBORHOOD TO RESPOND. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. I HAVE YOU AS THE SECOND, UM, REQUESTER FOR THE POSTPONEMENT AND YOU CAN PROCEED MR. ZOLA. YEP. DAVID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE IN THERE, BUT YOU CAN GO AFTER ME IF YOU ARE. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERYONE FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, TO HEAR OUR THOUGHTS. UM, I SENT AN EMAIL TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS YESTERDAY. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT, BUT IT OUTLINES A LOT OF THE REASONS WHY WE BELIEVE NOT ONLY DO WE NEED A POSTPONEMENT, BUT, UM, IT ALSO SPEAKS TO THE MERITS OF THE CASE. UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE WERE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION AS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE PURSUING AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL THAT MET A LOT OF THAT SAFETY CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD EXPRESSED DURING THE FIRST CALL BACK IN APRIL. UM, THERE WERE TWO POTENTIAL PROPOSALS, ONE, INCLUDING A, UH, SEVEN UNIT BUILDING PROPOSAL WITH A 15 FOOT SETBACK AND ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL THAT INCLUDED FIVE UNITS WITH THE ORIGINAL 25 FOOT SETBACK. UM, HOWEVER, WE WERE SURPRISED TO LEARN JUST THE OTHER DAY THAT THE APPLICANT WAS NO LONGER PURSUING THOSE ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS. THAT [00:35:01] WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE OF A COMPROMISE WITH THE NEIGHBOR AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN REVERTED BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN FOR SEVEN UNIT BUILDING PROPOSAL. UM, WITH, UH, I BELIEVE NOW A SEVEN FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIVE FOOT STEP BACK FROM THEIR PLAN BACK IN APRIL, UH, THIS WAS A COMPLETE SHOCK AND A SURPRISE. AND QUITE FRANKLY FELT LIKE WE WERE HOODWINKED BY THE APPLICANT. UM, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GENERALLY VERY COMMUNICATIVE, UM, THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS. AND WE FEEL LIKE WE WERE LED ON BY THEM THAT THEY WERE GOING THROUGH GENUINELY IN GOOD FAITH, LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS AND PROVIDE A ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL. SO WE WOULD LIKE MORE TIME AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THIS SEVEN FOOT SETBACK PLAN, WHICH AGAIN CAME AS A COMPLETE SHOCK TO US JUST THE OTHER DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND OPPOSITION TO THE POSTPONEMENT. MS. FLORES. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ALEJANDRO FLORES. I'M THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PROJECT? UM, THE REASON WHY I'M AGAINST THE POSTPONEMENT IS BECAUSE WE ALREADY GRANTED A FOUR WEEK POSTPONEMENT AND WE TRY TO IMPROVE THE PLAN. SEVEN FOOT IS THE MOST WE CAN DO SO THERE'S NO POINT OF US POSTPONING IT ANYMORE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. TRAVIS. HALLUC MR. LACEY YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I'M THE ARCHITECT, UH, FOR THE GROUP. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO INTENT TO DECEIVE ANYBODY WITH THAT ALTERNATIVE SCHEMES. WE TESTED A FEW OPTIONS JUST TO SEE WHAT WOULD FLY AND WHAT WE COULD GET DONE. AND IT ENDED UP BEING THAT A RETURN TO VERY MUCH THE ORIGINAL SCHEME WITH MORE SUBTLE IMPROVEMENTS WAS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO FORWARD WITH NOW. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THIS ITEM IS WRITING FOR TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SIMILARLY TO OUR LAST DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO LIMIT OUR, UM, QUESTIONS TO FIVE COMMISSIONERS, THREE MINUTES EACH. UM, ANY, ANY OPPOSITION TO THAT SEEING NONE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE QUESTIONS, UM, WHO HAS THE FIRST QUESTION AND AGAIN, MARITSA THE POSTPONEMENT, NOT THE CASE ITSELF. ANYONE, ANYONE HAVE EMOTION? COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? I MOVE THAT. WE GO AHEAD AND HEAR THIS CASE TONIGHT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PRACTICE. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, MR. ANDERSON? YEAH, IT JUST SEEMS TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. IT'S A COMMERCIAL ZONE SITE AND IT'S READY TO GO AND WE'VE ALREADY POSTPONED THIS FOR FOUR WEEKS AND IT'D BE GOOD TO GET THESE HOMES MOVING IF WE CAN. OKAY. UM, ANY SPEAKERS AGAINST, UH, DENYING THE POSTPONEMENT? SORRY. DOES THAT INCLUDE, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS SPEAKERS, OR ARE YOU ONLY REFERRING? NO. THIS, THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS FOR, I'M SORRY FOR THE COMMISSION. I'M SORRY. WE'RE BEYOND QUESTIONS. WE ARE NOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO, UM, DENY THE POSTPONEMENT, WHICH WOULD, WE WOULD THEN HEAR THE CASE TONIGHT. IT'S A MOTION THAT WAS BROUGHT BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PRACTICES. AND WE ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE REASONS WHY WE SUPPORT THIS MOTION OR WE DON'T. AND SO I'M GOING TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THAT DO NOT SUPPORT HEARING IT THIS EVENING, UH, UH, TO SPEAK ANYBODY THAT IS AGAINST THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. ALL RIGHT. UH, IF NOBODY'S OPPOSED, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS. I'M GOING TO GO, OH, COMMISSIONER CZAR D OH, YOU'RE VOTING. OKAY. LET'S START WITH THOSE ON THE DYES, JUST TO KEEP ME STRAIGHT. UM, IT, THIS IS MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PRACTICES TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR A SUPPLEMENT, WHICH MEANS WE WOULD HEAR THE CASE THIS EVENING. AND THAT'S EVERYBODY ON THE DICE NOW, UH, LOOKING TO THE SCREEN TO SEE, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. I HAVE FIVE HAS THAT YELLOW OR GREEN COMMISSIONER YANNIS POLITA IS THAT YELLOW? OKAY, SO WE HAVE EIGHT IN FAVOR. [00:40:01] UH, WE HAVE NO ONE OPPOSED, AND WE HAVE ONE ABSTENTION, MY COMMISSIONER ON HIS POLITO. SO THAT MOTION PASSES, WHICH MEANS, UH, B UM, WE WILL HEAR THAT CASE LATER THIS EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR, IF THE TOP OF [B5. Plan Amendment: NPA-2022-0017.02 - 7301 Burnet Road; District 7] ONE, OUR FIRST DISCUSSION CASE, LET ME FIND IT, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE. I THINK THAT, UH, ITEM B FIVE, IS THAT CORRECT? SO HERE FROM STAFF TO START THINGS OFF RAIN, MEREDITH HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT ITEM NUMBER B FIVE IS NPA 20 22 0 0 1 7 0.02. PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 73 0 1 BURNET ROAD WITHIN THE CRESTVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE LAND USE. IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CRESTVIEW PLANNING CONTACT TEAM. AND , I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT IF WE COULD PLEASE PAUSE, UM, NOT ENOUGH MEMBERS ON THE DICE. WE'VE GOT, WE HAVE SEVEN TOTAL. DO WE NEED MORE THAN THAT PRICE PROCEED. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE CRESTVIEW PLANNING CONTACT TEAM OR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN GENERAL. THERE HAS BEEN NO ZONING APPLICATION FILED AT THIS TIME. AND STAFF SUPPORTS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR MIXED USE LAND USE BECAUSE BURNETT ROAD IS AN ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR DESIGNATED AS AN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR ON THE IMAGINE AUSTIN CONCEPT PLAN WHERE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ENCOURAGED. THE CRESTVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN SUPPORTS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS ON ANDERSON LANE AND BURNET ROAD. AND THAT'S CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION WITH JERRY. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS MR. WAYLAND, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES FOLLOWED BY A REBEL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL WHALEN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I'M HERE TO DISCUSS OUR REQUEST TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS A PLANNING TOOL THAT ESTABLISHES HIGH-LEVEL POLICY DIRECTION FOR WHAT TYPE OF FUTURE GROWTH THE CITY DEEMS APPROPRIATE FOR EACH SITE. IN OTHER WORDS, IT SETS EXPECTATIONS FOR HOW A SITE SHOULD BE USED IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS NOT A REZONING REQUEST. WE ARE SEEKING TO AMEND THE FLUME TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IN THE FUTURE. OUR REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL AND CITY PLANNING POLICY AND BRINGS THE SITE INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO WHY BEFORE WE GET INTO THE MERITS OF OUR REQUEST, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS WHY IT IS APPROPRIATE TO ADVANCE A FLUME CHANGE WITHOUT AN ACCOMPANYING REZONING REQUEST. THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEFINES A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS A QUOTE BLUEPRINT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT END QUOTE, AND ESTABLISHES A ZONING DECISION SHOULD BE GUIDED BY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IN OTHER WORDS, A FLUME DESIGNATION AND A REZONING REQUEST ARE TO HAVE SEPARATE COMPONENTS OF LAND USE IN THE FLUME SETS THE EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT A REZONING REQUEST MAY LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. ADDITIONALLY, STATE LAW REQUIRES IT ZONING REGULATIONS ALIGNED WITH IMAGINE AUSTIN, SINCE THE FLUMES ARE CODIFIED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE LAW REQUIRES A REZONING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FLINT, WITH THE FLUME. AS YOU KNOW, CITY POLICY REQUIRES FLUME CHANGES WEST OF TO BE SUBMITTED IN FEBRUARY AS PART OF THE TYPICAL PROCESS. THUS, WE FILED THIS REQUEST IN FEBRUARY AND ARE HERE WITH YOU NOW, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS, GRANTING A FLUME AMENDMENT AHEAD OF A REZONING REQUEST, FOLLOWS GOOD PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND SETS EXPECTATIONS FOR THE SITE'S FUTURE, WHICH IN TURN WILL HELP SHAPE FUTURE PROJECTS AND PROVIDE CLARITY AS TO WHAT IS POSSIBLE ON THE SITE. AND OF COURSE, ANY REZONING REQUESTS WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO THE COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND CONVERSATION, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S A LOCATION MAP OF THE SITE. SO YOU CAN ORIENT YOURSELF THE SITE. UH, THE SITE IS OF COURSE ON BURNET ROAD, ABOUT HALF A MILE SOUTH OF ANDERSON LANE, NEXT SITE. AND HERE'S AN IMAGE OF THE SITE TODAY. IT IS CURRENTLY USED AS A COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER STRIP MALL. NEXT SLIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, BURNET ROAD IS AN IMAGINED AUSTIN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR. THIS CITY'S LAND USE POLICIES, INCLUDING IMAGINE AUSTIN ENCOURAGE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THESE CORRIDORS. NEXT SLIDE. THE SITE ALSO HAS AMPLE TRANSIT ACCESS. IT'S LOCATED ON AN ASN P TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK ROADWAY AND HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO MULTIPLE BUS ROUTES, INCLUDING ONE OF ONLY TWO METRO RAPID ROUTES IN THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE, MOREOVER, THE TWO PRIMARY BUS ROUTES THAT SERVE [00:45:01] THE SITE ARE IN THE TOP 10 ROUTES CITYWIDE IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP LEVELS IN THE ZOOMED OUT MAP ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT SEVERAL BUS STOPS EXIST WITHIN A HALF MILE RADIUS OF THE SITE. THESE ROUTES GO BOTH NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST WEST AND TAKES FOLKS AND TAKE FOLKS FROM DOWNTOWN ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DOMAIN. NEXT SLIDE HERE ARE THE CURRENT FLUME DESIGNATIONS FOR THIS AREA. YOU CAN FIND THE KEY AT THE TOP LEFT OF THE SCREEN. THE CITY'S MAPPING TOOLS SHOW THAT NEARLY TWO THIRDS OF CREST VIEWS BURNET ROAD FRONTAGE IS DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE ON THE FLUME. YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP THAT OUR SITE IS SURROUNDED BY THE MIXED USE, WHICH IS THE BROWN COLOR ON THE MAP THAT OUR SITE, UH, EXCUSE ME ON THE FRONTAGE AND IS THE ONLY FRONTAGE PROPERTY CURRENTLY NOT CATEGORIZED THIS WAY. ADDING MIXED USE DESIGNATIONS TO THE CORRIDOR IS A CLEARLY DEFINED GOAL WITH THE CITY CONTINUOUSLY TAKING STEPS TO ACHIEVE THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS PASSED IN 2004, ONLY ABOUT ONE THIRD OF CREST VIEWS, BURNETT FRONTAGE WAS MIXED USE AS THE CITY UPDATED ITS LAND USE POLICIES. COUNCIL BEGAN UPDATING THE FLUME DESIGNATION FOR THESE FRONTAGE, LOTS TO ALIGN WITH ITS PLANNING PRINCIPLES TODAY ABOUT A DOZEN OTHER PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL TO CHANGE FROM COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE. OUR REQUEST FOLLOWS THAT TREND IN FURTHER ADVANCES. THE CITY'S GOAL OF INCREASING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS ON THE CORRIDORS. FINALLY, TO RECAP THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON AN IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR AND AN ASAP TRANSIT NETWORK PRIORITY ROADWAY WHERE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS ENCOURAGED. NEXT. THE MAJORITY OF CREST VIEWS BURNET ROAD FRONTAGE IS ALREADY DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE ON THE FLUME AND OUR REQUEST. WE'LL ALIGN THIS SITE WITH THE REST OF THE AREA AND A FLUME CHANGE AT THIS STAGE IS CONSISTENT WITH IMAGINE AUSTIN AND OTHER CITY PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND PROVIDES GUIDANCE FOR ANY FUTURE REZONING REQUESTS IN PROJECTS. OF COURSE I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK YOU WILL NOT HEAR FROM MR. CHIP HARRIS, MR. HARRIS ON TELECONFERENCE SELECT STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH YOUR MARKS. MY NAME IS CHIP AT THE CITY HEALTH COMMUNITY. MEANING PUT THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT. THE APPLICANT'S AGENT EXPLAINED THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL LEASES AND THE SHOPPING CENTER. IT WOULDN'T EXPIRE FOR SEVERAL YEARS GIVEN THAT, AND THAT THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH A COMPLICATED TRANSITION AT THIS TIME, IT WOULD BE PREMATURE TO AMEND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. CITY STAFF STATED THAT IS VERY RARE TO HAVE AN NPA WITHOUT A CORRESPONDING ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH OF THIS WAS RESOUND RECENTLY, NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY LOST OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET AUSTIN'S VISION FOR ITS FUTURE. BEING ALL RESIDENTIAL. THERE WAS NO RETAIL TO MEET CONSUMER NEEDS AND NO RESTAURANTS FOR PEOPLE TO DINE AT THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY WITHOUT OFFICE SPACE. THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO WORK WITH HER COLLEAGUES WITHOUT ANY ONSITE PARKLAND. THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO RELAX OR PLAY. THAT'S NOT THE VISION OF AUSTIN'S FUTURE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN BREAKS IN AN ATTEMPT TO PLAN THIS PROPERTY TO BE EXCEPTIONAL. LET US PAUSE THIS AMENDMENT UNTIL IT IS ACCOMPANIED WITH THE RELATED ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. AND ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND PLAN SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE WILL BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING THAT WILL MEET THE MANY AND VARIED NEEDS OF OUR GROWING COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FOR THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. MICHAEL WHALEN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, I'VE JUST, UH, ADD, UH, TWO THINGS. ONE I THOUGHT, UM, MR. HARRIS MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS SHOULD BE A MIXED USE SITE, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY COMMERCIAL. SO I THINK REZONING IT, OR EXCUSE ME, CHANGING THE FLUME TO MIXED USE SO THAT IT WILL ENCOURAGE A MIX OF USES THERE AS THE FUTURE GUIDANCE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. AND WHEN WE COME BACK WITH ZONING, UH, WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT MR. HARRIS DESCRIBED MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY, COMING BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL. AND OBVIOUSLY THE CHALLENGE HERE IS YOU CAN ONLY DO THIS ONE TIME PER YEAR, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, UH, IF YOU DON'T COME FORWARD AND OUTLINE WHERE YOU'RE HEADING, ULTIMATELY, AS WE HAVE JUST DONE BY COMING HERE WITH A MIXED USE DESIGNATION, UH, IT, IT PUTS YOU AT A DISADVANTAGE. YOU CAN'T REALLY DO THE TYPE OF PLANNING, UH, ULTIMATELY, UH, THAT WILL BE NEEDED IN THE REZONING PROCESS CHAIR. THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKER ON THE SPEAKERS ON THIS SIDE OF THINKING. OKAY. UM, A MOTION [00:50:01] TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. UM, IT'S FUN VOTE WAS ON THE DIETS, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EVERYONE THINK EIGHT? YEP. OKAY. NINE ZERO. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO QUESTIONS. UM, I AM PROPOSING AGAIN, UH, ON THIS CASE THAT WE IT'S JUST, UH, THE PLAN AMENDMENT. UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO KEEPING IT TO FIVE COMMISSIONERS WITH THREE MINUTES EACH, AND WE CAN ALWAYS SUSPEND THE RULES AND REVERT BACK IF WE DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, HEARING NO OPPOSITION, I WOULD LIKE TO START THAT WAY. SO, UH, WHO HAS THE FIRST QUESTION? ANYONE? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANY EMOTIONS PROPOSED? YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UH, FINISHERS ARE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE APPLICANT REQUESTS. I HAD A SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT MOTION? I THINK THERE, THE REASON FOR, I THINK MOVING FORWARD THIS CASE IS REALLY AS MEAN, AS AN EXPLAINED, I THINK IT'S LIKE A BLOCK ISSUE THAT SAID YOU NOT GOING TO THROW THEM IN AT THIS POINT, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET, AND OF COURSE, AS MENTIONED BOTH BY THE APPLICANT AND BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE, THIS WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR THEM TO GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THE NOTIFICATION AND THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT OR ANY FUTURE APPLICANT AT THE TIME OF REZONING. SO REALLY THE FARM, I THINK IN SOME WAYS, FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, IF I WERE TO TAKE MY ROLE AS PLANNING COMMISSIONER ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE OVERALL PLAN FOR BURNETT. SO I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS STANDARDIZATION OF HOW WE SEE THAT CORRIDOR AND STILL ALLOW FOR NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVEMENT IN ANY FUTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO SPEAK FOR, OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS ALONG. SO THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, THIS SIDE ITEMS, WHICH I THINK STAFF RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? YES. RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FOR THE, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT OF AT 73 0 1 BURNETT ROAD. UM, IT'S A, MOST OF MY COMMISSIONER ARE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. UH, LET'S GO. AND THOSE ON THE DICE, UM, THAT'S ALL THREE OF US AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, UH, I'M COUNTING 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, AND COMMISSIONER PRACTICES THAT YELLOW JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S YELLOW. SO WE HAVE FIVE, EIGHT VOTING IN FAVOR, UM, ONE ABSTENTION BY COMMISSIONER PRAXIS. SO THAT MOTION PASSES 8 0 1. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG. WELL, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE NEXT SIDE. I'M UP. UH, THAT WOULD BE, IS THAT ITEM B TIN? IS THAT OUR NEXT ITEM? OH, YES. SORRY. WE, UH, WE VOTED ON IT. YES. UH, ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN [Items B6 & B7 (Part 2 of 2)] AND SEVEN WERE TAKEN TOGETHER. LET'S GO HEAR FROM STAFF ON THE, ARE WE GOING TO HEAR ON THE PLAN AMENDMENT FIRST? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. GREEN MEREDITH HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT ITEM NUMBER B6 IS PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 1 9 0.01 DOT S H. KATIE LOFT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1 0 0 4 1 0 0 6 AND 1 0 0 8 EAST 39TH STREET IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL AUSTIN COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. THE HANCOCK SUB-AREA THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM SINGLE FAMILY AND MIXED USE OFFICE TO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A FORMAL LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CANNED PACK, NIPPER, EXCUSE ME, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, CONTACT TEAM. WE HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER OF OPPOSITION FROM THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED LETTERS IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. SHERRY'S HER WITNESS WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. ALONG WITH THAT, THIS IS ITEM B SEVEN, WHICH IS KC 14 20 22 0 0 1 9 POINT S H. KATIE LOSS. THE ADDRESS IS 40 1004, 1008 EAST 39TH STREET. THIS REQUEST IS A REZONING FROM N P AND L O M U C O M P TO MFC O M P I'M SORRY. THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR MF FOR NP [00:55:01] MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCE, MODERATE TO HIGH DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING. THE CA THE SITE UNDER CONSIDERATION CONSISTS OF THREE LOTS THAT CONTAIN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND OFFICE AND A VACANT PROPERTY. THESE LOTS WERE ZONED AND L O M N P THROUGH THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AREA, REZONING CASE C 14 0 4 0 0 2 3. THE PROPERTIES ARE LISTED AS TRACKS FIVE, FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX, FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX, A AND 536 B ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN REZONINGS ORDINANCE CHART AND ARE SUBJECT TO IMPERVIOUS COVER AND FAR LIMITATIONS IN THEIR CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. THE LOTS TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE ARE DEVELOPED WITH AN OFFICE AND A DAYCARE SERVICES USE TO THE SOUTH ACROSS EAST 39TH STREET. THERE'S A DAYCARE SERVICE AND A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE EAST. THERE A FINANCIAL SERVICES USE THE LOTS TO THE WEST ARE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING NP ZONING TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH A A HUNDRED UNIT MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX THAT WERE PARTICIPATE IN THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROGRAM FOR THE DENSITY AND DEVELOPMENT BONUSES. THE STAFF HAS VERIFIED WITH THE REAL ESTATE DIVISION OF THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AN AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED APPLICATION, BUT HAS NOT BEEN CERTIFIED AT THIS TIME. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS FOR NPS ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION MEETS THE INTENT OF THE FOUR DISTRICT. THE SITE TAKES ACCESS TO A LEVEL ONE COLLECTOR ROADWAY AND IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY. RESIDENCE IS CIVIC AND LOW DENSITY OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES MF FOUR MPS ZONING IS MORE APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION, AS IT WILL ALLOW FOR MODERATE TO HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN THIS CENTRALLY LOCATED AREA NEAR LOWER DENSITY. RESIDENTIAL USES THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF MF FOR MPS ZONING WILL PROVIDE IT FOR A TRANSITION IN THE INTENSITY VISAS FROM THE COMMERCIAL CAS IN P M U M P AND G O M U N P ZONING FRONTING INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35 TO THE EAST TO THE ZONING TO THE WEST ALONG EAST 39TH STREET AND WILBERT ROAD. THE PROPOSED MF FOUR MPS ZONING WILL ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY LOCATED BETWEEN AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY RED RIVER STREET TO THE WEST AND NEAR A MAJOR INTERSTATE HIGHWAY TO THE EAST. ACCORDING TO GIS, THERE ARE SUPPORTING TRANSIT SERVICES IN THIS AREA, AS THERE IS A CAPITAL METRO BEST ROUTE TO THE SOUTH, ALONG EAST 38TH AND A HALF STREET TO THE EAST AND ALONG IAH 35 SOUTHBOUND SERVICE ROAD, THE REZONING WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT, WHICH IS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2017. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. WELL, I'LL HEAR FROM THE ADHAN THIS LAST YEAR AT FIVE MINUTES. HELLO, AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS AND YOU'RE CONTROLLING THE SIGNS, CORRECT. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. THIS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN SGI VENTURES, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF AUSTIN, AND, UM, SAGE DEVELOPMENT AS CONSULTANTS TO INDUSTRIES AS CONSULTANT AND NEW HOPE HOUSING. THIS TEAM HAS 20 PLUS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN AFFORDABLE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE BUILT OVER 700 AFFORDABLE HOMES IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND THAT DOES NOT COUNT WHAT HAKA HAS DONE OR NEW HOPE HOUSING HAS DONE IN THEIR OWN CITY, BUT WE ARE JUST SWIMMING UPSTREAM AND NEED THIS PROJECT HELPS ANSWER THE NEED FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE THAT WE SEE IN AUSTIN. THOSE THAT WE SEE STRUGGLING TO FIND STABLE HOUSING AS WE DRIVE THROUGH OUR GREAT CITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NEXT TWO SLIDES. KITTY LOFTS IS A PROPOSED HUNDRED UNIT SRO DEVELOPMENT. IT WILL BE A HUNDRED PER CENT CONTINUUM OF CARE UNITS AND AN AREA THAT WE ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION IS VERY CLOSE TO MANY AMENITIES, HEALTHCARE, AND SO MANY SERVICES THAT ARE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING RESIDENCES, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, STRIVE TO BE NEAR NEXT SIDE. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE DATA THAT WE RECEIVED FROM, FROM THE HOUSING BLUEPRINT LAST YEAR AND THE NEED AND GAP STUDY FROM ECHO. TYPICALLY WE DO FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. THERE'S OVER TWO, ALMOST 3000 UNITS SPECIFICALLY NEEDED FOR SRO IN THE CITY. AND THERE'S ALMOST 3000 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE UNITS NEEDED IN DISTRICT NINE ALONE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS OUR PROPOSED SITE [01:00:01] PLAN FOR KATIE LOFTS. UM, THIS DOES ENCOMPASS AN EMMA FOR ZONING, SO WE ARE HAPPY WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR MFR. WE WERE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH, UM, OUR ORIGINAL SITE PLAN AND MAKE IT MEET THE MFR DESIGNATION. THIS SITE PLAN IS JUST A STARTING POINT, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON DETAILS. IF WE WERE TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK SINCE THE SITE PLAN IS NOT TIED TO THIS ZONING CASE, YOU'RE CONSIDERING TODAY, NEXT SLIDE. THIS TABLE SHOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IS ALLOWED WITH MF SIX. AND WHAT'S WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND EMMA FOR. WE'RE HAPPY TO ACCEPT THAT MY FOUR, AGAIN, AS COMMISSION, AS NOTED BY STAFF, NEXT SLIDE, WE RECEIVED SOME REQUESTS, UM, FROM A FEW OF THE NEIGHBORS TO JUST BUILD ON WHAT THE EXISTING ZONING ALLOWS. AND WITH AFFORDABLY UNLOCKED, YES, WE COULD BUILD A SIX STORY BUILDING THERE, BUT IT, FRANKLY, IT'S NOT SMART. IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE. IT WILL CAUSE MORE CITY RESOURCES. AND WE WILL DO THAT IF WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO, BUT WE PREFER TO BUILD A LOWER DENSITY PROJECT FROM A HEIGHT PERSPECTIVE AND ONE THAT IS MORE COST-EFFECTIVE AND A LESS STRAIN ON THE CITY RESOURCES. NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE RENDERING THAT WE'VE PROVIDED. OF COURSE, THIS WILL CHANGE AS THE SITE PLAN CHANGES. NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S JUST TWO OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED IN AUSTIN, UM, FALLS KIND OF ALONG THE SAME CORRIDOR THAT YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN AS YOU TRAVEL UP AND DOWN THROUGHOUT, UH, URBAN CORE AUSTIN, NEXT SLIDE, NEW HOPE HOUSING IS SOMEONE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE OF THEIR, UM, THEIR EXPERIENCE SPECIFICALLY WITH, UM, DEVELOPING AND OPERATING SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THEY'RE ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL IN THE STATE AND HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1993. NEXT SLIDE, THEY'VE SERVED OVER 2000 PEOPLE AND WITH A STABILIZATION RATE OF 80%, WHICH IS JUST AMAZING. NEXT SLIDE. OUR COMMUNITY AMENITIES INCLUDE LAUNDRY, A COMMUNITY LAUNDRY ROOM, A COMPUTER CENTER, A WARMING KITCHEN, OUTDOOR COMMUNITY SPACE AND RECREATIONAL SPACE ELEVATOR SERVED BUILDING. AND WE WILL ALSO BE CONTROLLED ACCESS AND HAVE 24 HOUR ONSITE MANAGEMENT. NEXT SLIDE, BECAUSE WE OWN THESE PROPERTIES. LONG-TERM THE, THE SUPPORT SERVICES AND THE SORRY, THE MATERIALS THAT WE USE FOR OUR DEVELOPMENTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US HAVING MATERIALS LIKE, UH, RESILIENT FLOORING, NO CARPET, HARD SURFACE COUNTERTOPS, GRANITE, A STYLE STONE, UM, BOTH IN THE BATHROOM AND IN THE, THE, UM, KITCHEN AND THEN ENERGY EFFICIENCY, LIGHTING, AND APPLIANCES. THESE UNITS ALSO WILL BE FULLY FURNISHED. NEXT SLIDE. I MENTIONED RESIDENT SUPPORT SERVICES. WE WILL DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF SUPPORT SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AS IT IS ON THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEN MANY OF THEM WILL COME WITH CASE MANAGEMENT AND WE WILL BRING IN ADDITIONAL CASE MANAGEMENT FOR EACH ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. NEXT SLIDE, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. UM, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS ZONING CASE. WE DO, UM, HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT BEING THE NUMBER ONE RANKED DEVELOPMENT IN THE REGION SEVEN FOR FUNDING. UM, THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION. THANK YOU. YOU WILL NOW HEAR FROM MR. CHESMORE. MR. MORGAN HAD THREE MINUTES. UM, I WAS NOT EXPECTING TO BE FIRST. UM, I WAS ALSO TRYING TO NOT EVER COME TO A PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT HERE WE ARE, AFTER SEVEN YEARS OF DOING THIS WORK, UM, JP AND SOME OTHER FOLKS ARE GONNA COME UP AND SAY SOME VERY ELOQUENT STUFF AROUND, UM, LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THE INTELLECTUAL POLICY ARGUMENTS, WHY WE NEED THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST AT A POINT TO WHERE I AM. UM, I'M QUITE FATIGUED WHEN THESE TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS COME UP, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE LIVE IN A CITY WHERE, WHEN FOLKS ARE ON THE STREET CAMPING, YOU KNOW, WE SAID, OOH, AND GROSS. AND WE, WE SAY, OH, WE NEED HOUSING. CAUSE, CAUSE WE COULDN'T STAND TO LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE SLEEPING ON THE STREET. NOW THAT WE HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BUILD PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE SAYING, OH, NOT HERE, RIGHT? LIKE THIS WHOLE NOT IN MY BACKYARD THING. AND IT JUST, IT'S JUST, UM, IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO ME THAT, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION, THERE ARE ONLY CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS IN CERTAIN ZIP CODES WITH CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHICS THAT GET THAT RIGHT. THEY GET THAT PRIVILEGE. RIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY SPEAKING AND NOT TOO MUCH WHEN I, AND I HATE TO BRING UP OLD STUFF BECAUSE WHITE AMERICA HATES, YOU KNOW, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HISTORY ACTUALLY HAPPENED. [01:05:01] BUT IN 1928, UM, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN AND I THINK ABOUT THE BLACK FOLKS THAT LIVED IN WEEKSVILLE IN CLARKSVILLE THAT FOUGHT FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY WERE PUSHED OUT TO THE EAST SIDE AND NOW, YOU KNOW, 20, 30 DECADES LATER, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOW PUSHED OUT OF THE EAST SIDE THAT THEY WERE TO OUT TO MAINER AND ALL THESE OTHER PLACES. UM, IT JUST BEGS TO LIKE, IT BEGS THE QUESTION OF LIKE WHO ACTUALLY GETS TO PRESERVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, AND, AND IT'S CLEAR TO ME, UM, FROM JP, WHEN HE WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION GRIPING ABOUT THE CASES THAT CAME UP, UM, TH TH IT, IT IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT DEMOGRAPHIC OF PEOPLE THAT ONLY GET TO, UM, FIGHT FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REALLY IT'S BASED ON NOTHING. YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PRIVILEGED PEOPLE, UM, I'M GOING TO GO ON A LIMB AND SAY, PREDOMINANTLY WHITE PEOPLE ARGUING OVER WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH LAND THAT HAS ALREADY STOLEN IS CRAZY TO ME. UM, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, LIKE THE YOUNG LADY SAID, LIKE THE YOUNG LADY SAID IN THE, IN THE YELLOW DRESS, I FORGOT HER NAME. UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE 14 KIDS AND TWO TEACHERS WERE KILLED TODAY. AND INSTEAD OF US COLLECTIVELY AS A COMMUNITY LEANING IN ON THAT, TAKING A PAUSE TO THINK ABOUT REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES AROUND, LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE AT SCHOOL? WHAT CAN WE DO TO KEEP THE 86 YEAR OLD BLACK WOMAN THAT WAS SHOT IN SUPERMARKET SAFE? UM, WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT NOT PUTTING PEOPLE IN HOUSING, IN A CITY WHERE WE KNOW WE NEED HOUSING. THAT'S, IT'S JUST KIND OF BEYOND TO ME AT THIS POINT. UM, YEAH, MAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY. LIKE THESE ARGUMENTS ARE JUST KIND OF ASTOUNDING TO ME. WE NEED HOUSING. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. LET'S JUST GIVE THEM DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MS. SALLY GASKIN, IT'S GASKET, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. JOHN POLYGON CONLEY. I AM SALLY GASKIN. I AM THE ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO REQUEST RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU CONSIDER THE NEED AND, UM, AND OUR TIMING ISSUES WITH REGARD TO THE TAX CREDIT ALLOCATION PROCESS. UM, WE ARE THE NUMBER ONE SCORING DEVELOPMENT IN THIS REGION, AND WE HAVE, UH, JUST A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. JOHN PAULA ONLY MS. COLEEN. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANT TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THE REMARKS THAT CHAZ MADE. AND I THINK MOST OF US HERE ARE AWARE OF IT, BUT IT NEVER HURTS TO REMEMBER THAT. ALTHOUGH AT THE MOMENT IN AUSTIN, DO THE CURRENT CENSUS BLACK PEOPLE MAKE UP APPROXIMATELY 7.8% OF AUSTIN'S POPULATION. THEY MAKE UP ALMOST 40% OF THE ON HOUSE COMMUNITY. SO THIS CONVERSATION IS ABSOLUTELY A FAIR HOUSING CONVERSATION AND IT IS APPROPRIATE TO FRAME IT AS SUCH. UM, ANOTHER THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS HOW IMPORTANT THIS LOCATION IS, RIGHT? THIS LOCATION. COULDN'T BE, IT'S CLOSE TO HIGH-FREQUENCY BUS ROUTES TO AMENITIES, TO HEALTH CLINICS, TO EVERYTHING THAT THESE FOLKS NEED TO DELAY THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND IF WE JUST HAD ANOTHER SIX MONTHS, WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, MOVE IT OVER A LOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NONE OF THAT WILL SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT. AND IT WILL, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, IT WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE FUNDING AND TO THE FUNDING PIECE. I WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON LETTER THAT SAY FRO BECAUSE THAT LETTER HAS BEEN DISTORTED AND MISUSED SAFE'S LETTER WAS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR KATIE LOFTS. IT WAS A LETTER OF SOLIDARITY FOR THE ZONING CASE, EXPRESSING HOW EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS. AND THE ENTIRE CONTINUUM OF CARE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE NEED TO UNITE BEHIND ALL OF THESE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECTS, WHICH IS WHY THE ENTIRE COC FOR THE AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY, THE ENTIRE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL FOR THE AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY CONTINUUM OF CARE HAS VOTED TO ENDORSE THIS PROJECT. SO THIS IS A PROJECT ENDORSED BY THE COC FOR THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, IT'S ENDORSED AND SUPPORTED BY SAFE, IT'S ENDORSED AND SUPPORTED BY THE TRINITY CENTER. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. WE EVEN HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OUR TRAVIS COUNTY JUDGE, ANNIE BROWN, OUR CONGRESSMAN LLOYD DOGGETT, OUR MAYORAL CANDIDATES, KIRK WATSON, AND CELIE, ISRAEL. EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY HAS COME TOGETHER TO SAY THAT WE NEED THIS CASE. YES, THE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN PERFECT. YES, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE COULD TWEAK ABOUT HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATES WITH AND WHO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T COMMUNICATE WITH. BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL TOO OFTEN, YOU KNOW, LARGE CHUNKS OF TENANTS ARE COMPLETELY IGNORED FROM THIS CONVERSATION. AND I WISH THAT WE COULD DO MORE TO BRING THEM INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL. BUT WHILE WE DO NEED TO RADICALLY IMPROVE OUR PROCESS, LET'S NOT PUNISH THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE ASPECTS [01:10:01] OF THIS PROCESS. THAT COULD BE BETTER. THEY'RE NOT THE ONES WHO HAVE TO CARRY THIS BURDEN. SO TO POSTPONE THIS CASE, TO DELAY IT TO, YOU KNOW, TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, W YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF FUNDING. IF SAFE CAN GET FUNDING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO GET STATE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT EITHER IS TO, TO ROB THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY OF HOUSING THAT IT SO DESPERATELY NEEDS. SO I WON'T TAKE UP THE REST OF MY TIME. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF VOICES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CAME FORWARD TODAY BECAUSE THIS CASE MATTERS. AND I WANT TO SEND A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE TO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN AUSTIN. TODAY, WE ARE PREPARED TO STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR PSH. WE WILL DEFEND EVERY UNIT OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THAT OUR SYSTEM NEEDS. WE WILL GET EVERY UNIT OF PSH THAT OUR SYSTEM NEEDS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THEN YOU WILL NOW HEAR FROM MS. SUZANNE, SHORTNER FOLLOWED BY BRADLEY PRICE. EACH WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS NAME IS SUZANNE SCHWERTNER, AND I'M WITH AUSTIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CORPORATION, WHERE THE REAL ESTATE ARM OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN. OUR MISSION IS TO PRESERVE AND INCREASE THE STOCK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES IN AUSTIN. AND TODAY WE HAVE PRESERVED AND CONSTRUCTED A PORTFOLIO OF OVER 13,500 UNITS IN 2017. UM, THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT, AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT AN ADDITIONAL 60,000 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS NEEDED BY THE YEAR OF 2025 TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH IN AUSTIN. AND I BELIEVE THOSE UNITS ARE A LOT MORE. AT THIS TIME, WE ARE EXCITED TO BE A PARTNER ON KATIE LOFTS, WHICH WILL PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS AND A LOCATION CLOSE TO TRANSPORTATION, JOBS, AND RETAIL. WITH THE ASSEMBLE TEAM, WE WILL NOT ONLY BE ABLE TO HOUSE A VULNERABLE POPULATION, BUT OFFER THEM THE SOCIAL SERVICES THEY NEED TO SUCCEED. KATIE LOPS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD A HUNDRED AFFORDABLE UNITS WITH SERVICES FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION, AND HACA SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT IT AS WELL. LIKE HE WILL NOT HEAR FROM BRADLEY PRICE. MR. PRICE YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE FOLLOWED BY MAGGIE AMBROSE. YES, I'M A HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENT FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND I LIVE ABOUT FIVE BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE POST KITTY LOSS. I RETIRED FOUR YEARS AGO AFTER A 40 YEAR CAREER AND OBSTETRICS GYNECOLOGY ALSO FOR MEDICAL ARTS SQUARE AND ST. DAVIS MEDICAL CENTER. I SUPPORT THE PROJECT BECAUSE I STABLE, HOUSED AS LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY THE KEY FOR PEOPLE TO ESCAPE HOMELESSNESS FOR GOOD, THE PHYSICAL WAY UP 80 LOSSES PURPOSEFULLY DESIGNED TO CREATE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AMONG THE RESIDENTS. MANY OF THEM HAVE LITTLE OR NO SOCIAL SUPPORT. AND THE SINGLE ENTRANCE EXIT MAN 24 HOURS PER DAY PROVIDES NOT ONLY A SENSE OF SAFETY, BUT ALSO AN EXPECTATION OF ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE'S CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT STABLE HOUSING LEADS TO BETTER PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH WITHOUT THIS KIND OF HOUSING. MANY OF THESE PEOPLE WILL FALL BACK INTO THE 5% OF AMERICANS WHO ACCOUNTS FOR 50% OF AMERICAN HEALTHCARE EXPENSE. I SUPPORT THIS IN CONTRAST TO SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE, I'M USING THE SAME APPROACH THAT WE USE IN CLINICAL MEDICINE. DOES THE BENEFIT RISK BY FAR CLEARLY A BENEFIT BOTH TO THE RECENTLY HOMELESS AND FOR AUSTIN AT LARGE IS MUCH, MUCH HIGHER THAN THE RISK OF ANY DISRUPTION TO THE NEIGHBOR. SO PLEASE SUPPORT THE PROP, UH, APPROVAL OF KT LOSS. THANK YOU WILL NOT HEAR FROM MR. BY DANIELLA SILVA, UH, IN PERSON TODAY. AND I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO IGNORE THE PSYCHO. UH, MY NAME'S MAGGIE AMBROSE. I'M A RESIDENT IN THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD ON 37TH STREET. I'M THREE BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED KATIE LOFT SORT OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. AND I WANT TO SUPPORT VOICE MY SUPPORT, A THIRD PROJECT IN SETTING CHANGES ON THE TABLE. AFTER THAT I MOVED INTO THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD IN 2019. WE LOVE LIVING HERE [01:15:01] BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUS ROUTES, SHOPPING AND ECONOMIC DISTRICTS, THE HANDCART CENTER WITH HPV, WITH GREEN SPACE, WITH HANCOCK PARK, AND THE REASONS YOU LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE THE SAME REASONS WHY IT MAKES SENSE TO THE KT LAST PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS TO BE LOCATED HERE. WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING THE SAME ACCESS TO THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR VULNERABLE, UH, CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE PREVIOUSLY, UH, FINDING THIS PLACE AT HOME BY, UH, ENCAMPMENT UNDERNEATH THE VISIBLE FROM MY HOUSE. I PROJECT LIKE ANY LOSS THAT, UH, OFFERS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PART OF SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS ADMINISTERED BY THE REPUTABLE AND AWARD-WINNING ORGANIZATION. LIKE NEW HOOK HOUSING IS A TYPE OF PROJECT THAT I PERSONALLY SUPPORT IN MY HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD. AS A HANCOCK NEIGHBOR, I HEARD USED TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGES AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE TODAY AND ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO PROGRESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, MS. SILVA, HAVE YOU REGISTERED ON THE TELECONFERENCE ABOUT, I DON'T BELIEVE I SEE YOU PRESENT IF YOU'RE ON THE TELECONFERENCE, PROCEEDED WITH YOUR MARKS. OKAY. MOVING ON TO MR. CHASE, RIGHT? MR. WRIGHT. HELLO, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHASE, RIGHT? I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE SPRINGDALE PARK NEIGHBORS, UH, WHERE I WORK WITH UNHOUSED RESIDENTS OF CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN. UM, AT THIS TIME I'M IN HIGHLY FAVOR OF THE KATIE LAW. UM, WHAT WE, WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A HUNDRED UNITS TO POSSIBLY TAKE, UH, FAMILIES OFF OF THE STREET. UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF UNHOUSED RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA THAT COULD POSSIBLY BENEFIT FROM THESE UNITS, THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UH, AND YOU LOOK AT HOW CAN YOU HELP YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS? ONE WAY IS A UNITS. SO THESE PEOPLE CAN GET OFF THE STREETS SO THAT YOU'RE NO LONGER COMPLAINING ABOUT WHERE THEY AT, WHERE THEY'RE RESIDING BEN IN FRONT OF SMALL BUSINESSES, AS THINGS AS SUCH A LOT OF THE AMENITIES, THAT AREA, UM, HEALTH-RELATED THEY HAVE GROCERIES. UM, I BELIEVE THE HEB MARKET THERE IN HANCOCK, A LOT OF PLACES THAT THESE UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS AND RESIDENTS THAT ARE AT HIGH RISK OF BEING DISPLACED IN AUSTIN RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S A CRAZY MARKET. UH, THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO PRETTY MUCH STRIVE AND SURVIVE IN THOSE AREAS. SO I AM HIGHLY FAVOR OF THIS KATIE LOFT, AND I HOPE THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ON THE TELECONFERENCE. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. ROBERT FOSTER FOLLOWED BY, BY ALICIA ROTH, MICHAEL. HELLO. HELLO. MY NAME IS BELLA, THE LADY LAW, KATIE, IF THE ADULT CUSTOM PROGRAM, OUR HOUSING IS HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION. MR. FOSTER, CAN YOU PLEASE PAUSE, MIGHT YOU CHECK YOUR CONNECTIVITY OR A MOVE TO A LOCATION? WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES HEARING YOU. OKAY. YEAH. I'M STILL HAVING ISSUES. UM, IF Y'ALL GET THAT BETTER. YES. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, UM, TO REITERATE I'M ROBERT FOSTER, I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO TEACH AN ACC IS ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAM. MANY OF MY STUDENTS ARE HOUSING INSECURE. MANY ARE FORMERLY HOMELESS. SOME ARE CURRENTLY HOMELESS AND TWO, THE BIGGEST HURDLES FOR THEM GETTING THEIR GED ARE HOUSING AND ACCESS TO TRANSIT, WHICH IS WHY FULL, FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S IN A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S THE REASON I DECIDED TO LIVE HERE. IT'S GOT GREAT ACCESS TO TRANSIT AND INSTEAD OF THE TWO AND A HALF HOUR COMMUTE THAT MANY OF MY STUDENTS DO TO GET TO THE NEAREST ACC CAMP. SO IT'S 30 MINUTES BY THE BUS. AND IT'S ANOTHER 30 MINUTES TO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. UM, I DON'T KNOW. I HOPE YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS AND, UH, IT'D BE GREAT TO PROVIDE SOME GOOD STABLE HOUSING AND OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR MS. FROM MS. ALICIA ROTH, WEIGEL FOLLOWED BY JOANNE WEBER, MR. MIGUEL, PRESENT NOTED, HOLD ON AND BE WILLING TO MISS A JULIAN WEBBER. SMITH'S WEBER PRESENT. THERE'S NO DONATION AT TIME THINKING I AM NOT GOING TO BE THE [01:20:01] MOST ELOQUENT OR INFORMED PERSON THAT HAS SPOKEN HERE TONIGHT BY FAR. UM, BUT I'M HERE TO MAKE THE MORAL ARGUMENT FOR KATY LAUGHS. AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND US THAT APPROVING THIS PROJECT FOR THOSE FACING HOMELESSNESS RIGHT NOW IS THE ACTUAL LEAST THAT WE CAN DO. UM, AND IF YOU THINK THAT IT'S NOT THE NIGHT WOULD ONLY REMIND US THAT 14 BABIES WERE MURDERED TODAY BY A GUNMAN. AND WE HAD A GOVERNOR AND TWO SENATORS WHO, WHEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY DID NOT DO THE ACTUAL LEASE THAT THEY COULD DO TO PASS GUN LEGISLATION THAT WOULD'VE MADE THAT OUTCOME FAR LESS LIKELY IN OUR CHILDREN'S SAFER. IF WE WANT TO GIVE THE CHILDREN IN OUR CITY AND THE FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO ARE UNHOUSED, THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A SOCIETY, UM, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO NOURISHMENT AND TO WELLNESS. AND THIS PROJECT FOR MANY OF THEM WILL BE THE ACCESS POINT TO THAT. IT'S TOO EASY. THE WILL IS THERE, THE RESOURCES ARE THERE. AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO APPROVE THIS WITHOUT DELAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND NOW MARIE MARTINEZ ON THE TELEPHONE CONFERENCE, UH, ARE YOU PRESENT ON THE TELECONFERENCE? OKAY. MOVING ON TO EMILY DRAGON. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. MY NAME IS EMILY DRAWN, BUT I ALSO PRONOUNCE A DRAGON SOMETIMES. UM, I AM A FORMER CITY PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF PFLUGERVILLE AND I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN URBAN PLANNING FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY AND DID MY THESIS ON SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND THE IMPACTS ON MENTAL HEALTH AND HOMELESSNESS. UM, I WILL NOT TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME AS MR. PRICE ACTUALLY EXPRESSED A LOT OF THE, UM, POINTS THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE ABOUT THE POSITIVE IMPACTS OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ACCESS TO PROPER TRANSPORTATION AND DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT THIS SITE AFFORDS THIS PROJECT. UM, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THAT WITH THE ZONING IN HAND, THERE'LL BE MORE LIKELY ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE FUNDS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RECEIVING THAT, UM, THAT FUNDING REALLY CAN'T COME FORWARD WITHOUT A SURETY OF ZONING FOR THE, THE CASE AND THE PROJECT. AND, UM, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING HAS LED TO INCREASES IN SOMETHING LIKE 86% OF RESIDENTS MAINTAINING STABLE HOUSING. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS FRANK . FRANK NITRO ON THE TELECONFERENCE, MR. NET CHARGER, PRESENT ON THE TELECONFERENCE, PROCEEDED WITH ARAMARK'S OKAY. MOVING ON TO MR. CHRIS BAKER SPEAKER, UH, YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW MOLLICA. HEY GUYS, THANKS FOR HEARING US OUT. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BECAUSE THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE PAINFULLY BORING AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO DO THAT. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT IS NOT BORING IS I RUN AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE OTHER ONE'S FOUNDATION AND I GO INTO WORK EVERY DAY INTO A GIANT HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT WHERE WE HAVE ABOUT 160 PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THAT WE CARE FOR DAY IN AND DAY OUT. AND RATHER, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY. LIKE, WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING HERE? LIKE, WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS? THIS IS INSANE. OF COURSE WE NEED MORE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. OF COURSE WE NEED IT. NOW THE, THE WHOLE NOTION THAT THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WOULD COME OUT IN OPPOSITION OF HOUSING FOR OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT ARE LIVING ON THE STREET. WHEN WE, AS A CITY HAVE COLLECTED AND WE DECIDED THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE OUTSIDE IS BEYOND THE PALE. IT MAKES NO SENSE. IT'S CRAZY. IT'S STILL ON THE TELLING YOU HERE TODAY. RIGHT NOW I AM TIRED. I AM EXHAUSTED. I HAVE BEEN FORCED INTO THIS POSITION OF SHELTERING AND CARING FOR PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE ALL COLLECTIVELY SEEMINGLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT. DUDE, I DON'T EVEN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE THIS WHOLE GOD AWFUL SHITTY MESS THAT WE FOUND OURSELVES IN. IT NEEDS [01:25:01] TO END. AND THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IS BY BUILDING MORE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO GO. I, I APPRECIATE YOU. AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME. I'M ALWAYS THE ONE WHO HAS TO FOLLOW UP. CHRIS. I FEEL LIKE, UH, MATT MULLICA, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH THE ENDING COMMUNITY, HOMELESSNESS COALITION, A COALITION OR ECHO I'M HERE TODAY IN FAVOR OF, UH, KATIE LOFTS, A DEVELOPMENT FOR A LOT OF REASONS ALREADY MENTIONED, BUT I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. ONE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YET, AND THAT'S A SYSTEM AT PLAY THAT'S MEANT TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS REALLY DIFFICULT TO DO. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TIMING ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE TAX CREDIT PROGRAM AT THE STATE LEVEL, YOU KNOW, IN 1973, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PUT A MORATORIUM ON THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SUBSIDIZED HOUSING AND LEFT IT TO THE PRIVATE MARKET TO GET DONE. THEY PROVIDED A LOW BARRIER, UM, MORTGAGES TO WHITE HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE LIVING IN THE CITY SO THAT THEY COULD CREATE THE SUBURBS AND PUSHED A LOT OF BLACK RESIDENTS, UM, INTO THE, INTO THE CITIES. AND THAT MORATORIUM HAPPENED. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOOM HAPPENED A LOT OF FORDABLE HOUSING CREATED BY PRIVATE DEVELOPERS IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES. UM, AND THEY SIGNED 20 YEAR, 30 YEAR HAP CONTRACTS TO STAY AFFORDABLE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES. WELL, IN MANY COMMUNITIES IN URBAN COMMUNITIES, UM, THE COST, UH, FOR THE MARKET UNITS IN THE NINETIES AND EARLY TWO THOUSANDS BEGAN TO GO UP. UH, THOSE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS TOOK, UH, THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS OFF THE MARKET. AND NOW WE HAVE MODERN DAY HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. THE FACT THAT THIS PROJECT HAS MADE IT THIS FAR, AND THE FACT THAT ALL IT'S GOING TO TAKE AS A ZONING CHANGE TO GET IT DONE MEANS WE NEED TO DO IT, AND WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET. NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM DONNY REYNOLDS, MS. REYNOLDS, MR. RONALD'S, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE FOLLOWED BY SUMMER RIGHTS. MR. REYNOLDS IS NOT PRESENT WHILE WE WANT HIM AS SUMMER RIGHTS. MR. WRIGHT, SELECT STAR SIX PROCEDURE REMARKS. HELLO, MY NAME IS SUMMER, RIGHT? OKAY. UH, HELLO. MY NAME IS SUMMER, RIGHT? I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS A PERSON WHO PREVIOUSLY EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS. I, SORRY, THAT ECHO IS A KILLER. UM, I QUALIFIED FOR A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM, UH, IN ANY OTHER CITY. UM, BUT I WAS PROVIDED WITH RAPID REHOUSING JUST BARELY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM RELIES ON US HAVING ENOUGH OF THE HOUSING THAT SERVES OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS TO FUNCTION. ADDITIONALLY, I'M CALLING IT FROM HOUSTON, UH, AT A CONFERENCE. I WANT TO STATE THAT THE OPPOSITION, THIS STATEMENT, REFERENCES THAT THIS IS A DESIGN SUITABLE FOR DOWNTOWN HOUSTON, NOT CENTRAL AUSTIN, ONE, UH, HEARING ALL OF THE SAVER TOWARDS THIS. THAT'S CLEARLY NOT TRUE. AND SECOND OF ALL, HOUSTON HAS REDUCED ITS HOMELESS POPULATION BY MORE THAN HALF BY BUILDING HOUSING LIKE THIS, WE CAN DO THAT TOO. WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO SERVE OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE. UH, THANK YOU. UM, JUST CHECKING ON TIMING. SO THE SO FAR WE'VE HEARD THOSE IN FAVOR AND DO WE, AND IT WAS KIND OF THREE MINUTES AND THEN WE'RE IN ONE MINUTE. SO ARE WE STILL CURRENTLY IN ONE MINUTE, SIR? OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I SIGNED IN AN OPPOSITION BECAUSE THERE ARE ONLY TWO CHOICES ON THE COMPUTER I'M NEUTRAL, BUT LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. MY NAME IS BARRY ANGOLAN. I SUPPORT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, BUT I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH. AND I REALLY HOPE THAT MEGAN AND SALLY WILL KEEP WORKING WITH THE CONTACT TEAM AND WHICH I'M A MEMBER OF AND ALSO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, THERE ARE SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS IN GLITCHES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ZONING. AND IT WASN'T REVEALED THAT THERE WAS A CEO ON THE L UH, L PROPERTIES THAT LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO 30 FEET. AND [01:30:01] I'M KIND OF CURIOUS WHY THAT WAS NEVER MENTIONED. HE WILL NOW BEGIN WITH THE OPPOSITION. WE'LL HEAR FROM MR. COHEN DILLAHUNTY. MR. DILLAHUNTY, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. HELLO EVERYONE. HI AGAIN FROM THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND APPRECIATE THE TIME. SO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN CHANGING IN RECENT YEARS WITH SOARING HOME PRICES, BUT HANCOCK, PARTICULARLY OUR BUSY STRETCH EAST OF RED RIVER, WHERE I LIVE NEAR THE KT PROPOSED KATIE LOFTS DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES A MIX OF HOUSING, INCLUDING STARTER HOMES FOR YOUNG FAMILIES WHO STILL FIX UP OLD HOUSES AND SEND THEIR KIDS TO LEE ELEMENTARY, AS WELL AS THE DIVERSE GROUP OF SENIORS, STUDENTS, ARTISTS, AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE SUPPORT AFFORDABILITY AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THE H AND A SUPPORTS PROJECTS SUCH AS THE 65 UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT PROPOSED FOR THESE SITES IN 20 20 20. THAT WAS A MIX OF ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS. OUR RESOLUTION ON APRIL 28TH, SUPPORTING AFFORDABILITY WAS ADOPTED BY 87% OF OUR MEMBERS, FURTHER THE H AND A ENCOURAGES COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND NEIGHBORHOODS TO IDENTIFY PROPERTIES THAT WOULD ALLOW THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF AFFORDABLE AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN LIEU OF THE CURRENT PROCESS THAT LEAVES IT IN THE HANDS OF DEVELOPERS, LOOKING TO FIND WHAT AREAS MIGHT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE REGARDLESS OF ITS FIT FOR THE TENANTS OR CONSIDERATION FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS. THIS APPROACH WOULD BE LESS CONTENTIOUS AND STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FOR FUTURE PUBLIC SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE TIMELINE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT 2020 IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER WORKING WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND HACA THE NEED FOR EXPERTS IS APPARENT HERE ON OUR SIDE THAT WE NEED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND RESEARCH THE ISSUES, NOT BECAUSE WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT OR PUBLIC SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, BUT WE HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT WORKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BEING SAFE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FUTURE TENANTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE STAFF REPORT IS INCOMPLETE. UM, IT FAILED TO CONSIDER THE PROJECT THAT IT'S BEING DESIGNED TO HELP PEOPLE FORMERLY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE OF THAT NATURE. WE NEED AN EXPERT ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE IMPACT BOTH TO THE FUTURE RESIDENTS AND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE'VE GOT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT LATER. AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT IS MISSING HERE. CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS THAT MARY ANGEL MENTIONED WERE NOT MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WERE INTENDED TO BLEND THE ZONING IN THE FLUM PLAN FOR THESE PARCELS, RIDICULOUS RESTRICTING HEIGHT AND IMPERVIOUS COVER. THAT SHOULD GET ATTENTION. ALSO, THE TRANSIT REPORT AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. WE'LL TALK TO THEM SOME MORE, BUT THOSE PEDESTRIAN, THOSE TRANSIT NETWORKS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT ARE UNREACHABLE BY THE SIDE, THROUGH THE SIDEWALK. AND YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH STREETS IN ORDER TO GET TO THE MID-EIGHTIES. ISN'T A SAFE APPROACH. AND FOR ALL OF THESE AREAS, EXPERT ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED. SIMPLE IMAGE, CIVIL ENGINEERS FOR TRANSIT REPORTS AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, URBAN PLANNERS FOR DENSITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERTS FOR CRIME. AND THEN MOVING ON TO SLIDE FIVE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE ARE VERY IMPORTANT. SO NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS AND DUE PROCESS ARE SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH. THERE'S CLEARLY A DEFICIENCY IN THE CITY PROCESS FOR NOTIFYING NEIGHBORS AS REQUIRED BY THE STATUTES 500 FOOT NEIGHBORS SHOULD BE NOTIFIED. WE'RE GETTING EMAILS BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS THIS EVENING, BUT SOMEBODY THAT WAS RECORDED IN TRAVIS CAT ON OCTOBER 15TH WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THIS PROJECT. AND 16 DAYS NOTICE IS REQUIRED FOR THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS. THIS PROCESS SHOULD BE IMPROVED. AND BY STATUTE AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THIS MEETING SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING WITHOUT APPROPRIATE NOTICE FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. ALSO STATE LAW NEEDS ATTENTION HERE, CHAPTER TWO 11 OF TEXAS STATE LAW, SPECIFIES THAT ZONING POWERS GRANTED TO IN MUNICIPALITY OR FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROMOTING PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, AND GENERAL WELFARE WELFARE, THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE DESIGNED FOR LESS THAN CONGESTION ON THE STREETS, PREVENTING OVERCROWDING OF LAND AND AVOIDING UNDUE CONCENTRATION OF POPULATION FURTHER. THE REGULATIONS MUST BE UNIFORM IN A DISTRICT AND SHOULD BE ADOPTED WITH REASONABLE CONSIDERATION AMONG OTHER THINGS FOR THE CHARACTER OF EACH DISTRICT. AND SUITABILITY FOR PARTICULAR USES WITH THE VIEW FOR CONSERVING THE VALUE OF BUSINESSES AND ENCOURAGING THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE OF LAND LICENSED PROFESSIONALS HAVE ALREADY LET US KNOW THAT ANYONE SELLING THEIR HOUSE NEAR THE NEAR THE DEVELOPMENT MUST LIST THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE ON THE SELLER'S DISCLOSURE, DISCLOSURE NOTICE, AND APPRAISER WILL BE NEEDED TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE VALIDITY OF THESE ISSUES. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER LOCATIONS PRESENTLY AVAILABLE CLOSE BY THE IMAGINE AUSTIN AND STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT CONCEPTS THAT WOULD NOT CREATE THE SAME ISSUES AS WOULD THESE INDIVIDUAL LOTS ON 39TH STREET. AND THEN ALSO SPOT ZONING AND CONTRACT ZONING ARE NOT PERMITTED IN TEXAS H AND H HAS DISCOVERED THAT THE CITY AND ITS AGENCIES HAVE ENTERED INTO SEVERAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE APPLICANT WHERE BOTH HAVE APPARENTLY SINGLED OUT THESE PARTICULAR [01:35:01] LOTS AND THAT THE CITY HAS ASSISTED THE APPLICANT. SO AS TO FACILITATE THIS PROJECT ON THE LOT, A CONCERNED GROUP OF NEIGHBORS IS IN THE PROCESS OF RETAINING COUNSEL FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXAMINING THE FACTUAL EVIDENCE AND THE APPLICABLE ZONING LAW TO SEE IF THERE'S A VIOLATION OF SPOT ZONING OR CONTRACT ZONING. WE NEED THE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING LATER IN JUNE TO UNDERSTAND IN SUMMARY H AND A OPPOSES THE NEIGHBOR OPPOSES THIS CHANGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND WE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT ISSUES FOR THE POTENTIAL NEW TENANTS AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BASED ON THIS INCREMENT INCOMPLETE INFORMATION THAT THE STAFF REPORT AND EXPERTS TO REVIEW, WE WOULD LIKE THIS RESOLUTION IN THIS ZONING CHANGE TO BE DENIED. THANK YOU. LIKE YOU WILL NOT HEAR FROM MISS JENNIFER DELLA HUNTING. MISS DELAHUNTY, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. AND THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE LIVED ON LIVED IN HANCOCK FOR 21 YEARS. UM, AND I LIVE ON RED RIVER CLOSE TO THE SIDE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM, JUST WANTED TO SAY A FEW THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, HANCOCK IS NOT IN ELITIST NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE ARE PRO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE'VE, WE'VE CONVENED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE SUBMITTED A RESOLUTION TO THAT EFFECT. UM, IF THIS PROJECT DOES MOVE FORWARD, I WILL WORK TO GET TO KNOW MY NEW NEIGHBORS, BUT WANT TO STATE ON THE RECORD THAT THIS FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE A RUSHED KIND OF EXPERIMENT. UM, BUT REALLY IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THIS RIGHT FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. LET'S CONSIDER HOW WE GOT GOT HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES, WE'VE HAD EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN AUSTIN. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE LEFT WONDERING WHERE THE CITY PLANNING AND LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN, UM, ADVOCATES AND THOSE LEFT WITHOUT HOUSING OPTIONS ARE UNDERSTANDABLY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE A CRISIS AND ARE TOLD WE CAN'T TAKE THE TIME TO GET THIS RIGHT. MEANWHILE, REGULAR AUSTINITES FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE HOMES ARE BEING MALIGNED. UM, IF YOU JUST FEEL THERE'S A BETTER WAY WE CAN DO THIS. UM, SAGE BROOK IN NEW HOPE HAVE NEVER DEVELOPED SRO TYPE PR. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF PERS PER I'M SORRY, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR FAMILIES. THEY'VE NOT REALLY DONE THIS SRO TYPE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE THE OUTCOMES BEEN? HOW DO FOLKS INTEGRATE INTO THE COMMUNITY? AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO STUDY THAT ISSUE. HOUSTON, UH, DEVELOPMENT EXAMPLES DON'T REALLY SEEM TO BE DIRECTLY COMPARABLE. UM, SO JUST WANT TO WRAP UP BY SAYING, UH, I BELIEVE THAT A LESS DENSE DEVELOPMENT THAN THE PLAN 100 UNITS THAT WOULD INCLUDE FAMILIES WOULD BE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF SUCCESS FOR ALL INVOLVED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HE WILL NOT HEAR FROM MR. JOSHUA LNG, MICHELLE, ANDREW, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. UH, THIS IS THE WRONG, UH, PRESENTATION YOU WANT TO PULL UP? UH, I THOUGHT, I THINK I CALLED THAT, UH, THE NEW HOPE HEALTH AND ONE THAT JOSH H AND M SORRY, I SENT YOU SO MANY. AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE MIGHTY FAST AND A LOT OF CONTENT. CAUSE I HAD TO TAKE OVER SOME SLIDES FOR, UH, SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT COVID THAT'S RIGHT. I'M WITH YOU. I'M GOING TO GO INTO SOME ONE, A MINUTE SPEAKERS AND THEN PULL YOURS UP, BACK UP FOR THE THREE MONTHS IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU. OKAY. HOW MUCH TIME DID MR. ELLINGER HAVE HE HAS THREE MINUTES AND WE'LL PRESERVE HIS THREE MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO MR. DAVID GUARINO. MR. MORENO, YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE FOLLOWED BY HIM. MICHAEL MORGAN, THE SNOW COMMISSIONERS, UM, WITH THE NUMBER WE HAVE, WE NEED EVERYBODY TO STAY ON THE SCREEN AND ON THE DIET TO MAINTAIN QUORUM. UH, SPRING IS YOU'LL JUST SELECT STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH ARAMARK'S. YES, PROCEED. AND I LIVE ON 38TH STREET IN HANCOCK SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE CURRENT BOX, THIS ZONING APPLICATION FOR THE PROPOSAL CITY LOSS PROJECT. I'M NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE RELATIVE MERITS OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PROPOSED. OTHER CHANGES. IF THIS PROJECT SHOULD FALL THROUGH 80 LOSS ALBUM AND UNCHECK PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN AUSTIN FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPER, THE NONPROFIT PROVIDER WITH EXPERIENCE AGILE ONLY [01:40:01] IN HOUSTON TO MAKE THIS WORK UP PARTICIPATION IN THE NEW EQUITABILITY PROGRAM, REQUEST IT WITH THE MOVING PART HERE MUST BE PICKED TO VIOLATE STATE LAW BY STIRRING IT PROHIBITED SPOT WITH CONTRACTS. IT FAILURE TO AVOID THE PITFALLS JUST BY ZONING. THIS COULD LEAD TO FUTURE LITIGATION PROJECT, POSSIBLY REPORT TESTED THE REBUILD PROGRAM. MOST EXTREME. PLEASE TAKE CARE BEFORE YOU PROCEED FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. MICHAEL MORGAN. MR. MORGAN, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE OKAY. WELL HEAR FROM MS. LISA FLICK. MS. FLICK YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE. UH, VETTING CAME SINCE 1992. I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT AFFORDABLE AND PUBLIC SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THAT I'VE POSED DEVELOPMENT. 39TH STREET IS ALREADY DENSELY POPULATED. THE STREET IS A CATEGORY FOR MY 35 IT'S HEAVILY TRAFFIC NARROW STREET WITH NO SIDEWALK. THERE'S NO PARKING ON 39TH STREET AREA CONGESTED. THIS WOULD ONLY ADD TO THE CONGESTION DESPITE ASSURANCES, THAT RESIDENTS WOULD NOT HAVE CARS HUNDRED NEW ADULTS, NOT FAMILY ADDED TO A SINGLE BLOCK MEANS EVEN MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE ARTS WITH NO GREEN SPACE SURROUNDING IT. THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY IT'S UNHEALTHY FOR EVERYONE, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR THE VULNERABLE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE HAVE BY PREFERENCES. FIRST AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FAMILIES LEE ELEMENTARY AS A SHORT WALK AWAY. AND THERE ARE TWO CHILDCARE CENTERS. BOOK-ENDING THE PROPERTIES AND QUESTIONS. THESE ASSETS WOULD BE WASTED ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY AFFECTED BY IT. AND NEXT BETTER USE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FAMILIES WHO CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SERVICES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SURROUNDS IT. THANK YOU. OKAY, WELL, I'LL CALL HIM BACK. CALL BACK MR. ELLINGER AND MR. ALLEN JEFFREY CAN PRESENT, LIKE I SAID, I APOLOGIZE. IT'S THE VERY FAST WE'RE READY. MY NAME'S JOSHUA LINGER. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 53 YEARS AND COUNTING. I LIVE ON, UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE DEVELOPMENT HUNDRED 50. I WILL BE PROUD WHEN THIS GETS BUILT, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECT IN THE COUNTRY. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS, BUT I OPPOSED THE ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE IT NEEDS THE NECESSARY NEGOTIATIONS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE ALREADY A CHA A C CHIEF ONE SMALL WHEN THE CURRENT DESIGN, MY NEXT GOAL IS TO GET MORE LAND. NEXT SLIDE, MORE LANDS, NECESSARY. NEW HOPE ACTUALLY NEEDS A BIGGER COMMUNITY AND DENSER PROPERTIES, UH, LOWER DENSITIES TO MAKE THEIR MODEL WORK. NEXT SLIDE. I'M GOING TO RUN YOU THROUGH EVERYTHING. THEY'VE GOTTEN HOUSTON CANAL 70, UH, SO IT'S A 130 UNITS SRO. 1.6 ACRES, 83 UNITS PER ACRE, NO HOMES NEARBY. NEXT LINE, DALE CARNEGIE, 83 UNITS PER ACRE ABOUT THE SAME THING. NEXT SLIDE HARRISBURG. NOT ABOUT THE SAME THING. NOPE. THERE'S NO HOUSES AROUND. IT'S JUST BUILDINGS. NEXT SLIDE. HAIRY, NEXT SLIDE. SO , I DON'T HAVE TO SAY THAT, UH, THERE'S A FEW HOMES NEARBY, BUT THERE IS A A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER, WHICH MAKES IT A LOT NICER. NEXT SLIDE. KATIE LAST IS DIFFERENT. KATIE LOST HIS A HUNDRED SRO AND A 0.7, FOUR LOT 135 UNITS PER ACRE IN A DISTRICT THAT ONLY SUPPORTS LIKE 55. THERE'S NO TRANSITION DUDE ON AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED. IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS. UH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OWNER-OCCUPIED HOUSES NEARBY. NEXT SLIDE AND OBSERVATION, EVEN WITHOUT ZONING, EVEN WITH LOTS OF AVAILABLE LAND, EVEN WITH NEW HOPES, HOMETOWN ADVANTAGE, HOUSTON APPEARS UNABLE OR UNWILLING TO PUT UP DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE OURS. NEXT SLIDE. MY TAKEAWAYS ARE IT'S UNFORTUNATE. I DON'T LIKE IT. BUT HISTORICALLY PSA CHILDBEARING IS NOT BUILT IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS IN TEXAS EVER. I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT THE CITY IS RUSHING INTO ANOTHER CODE [01:45:01] NEXT LIKE FIASCO, USUALLY GOING AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED AS A SHORTCUT AND AT A MINIMUM, WE'RE GOING TO WASTE THE SUMMER ARGUING WHEN WE COULD BE ACQUIRING MORE LAND. NEXT SLIDE. OUR CHOICES ARE WE NEGOTIATE NOW? AND THERE'S NO DELAY. WE START NEGOTIATING AN OUR AUGUST, WHICH IS RISKY. IF THE CITY DOESN'T ACTUALLY BUY THE LAND BECAUSE IT COULD GO TO FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS OR WE START NEXT YEAR AND THAT'S A LOST OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'D BE A TRAGEDY. NEXT SLIDE. THE BIGGER RISK IS THAT WE GET A LOST DECADE. WE HAD 22 ACRES AT CONCORDIA AND WE SQUANDERED IT. AUSTIN IS WATCHING AND SAW JP SIDE, UM, WILL THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF AUSTIN CONTINUE TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN THE CITY FORCES HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. NEXT SLIDE. I'M WHAT YOU'D CALL A YABBA. I JUST MADE THIS UP. YES, BUT IT BETTER BE AWESOME. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY, FIND ALTERNATIVE FUNDING, CIRCADIAN LOSS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW, UH, AND BUILD OR DEVELOPMENT THAT WE CAN ALL SUPPORT THROUGH A BETTER PROCESS. THEN WE NEED TO USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE FOR THE REST OF THE CITY. IT'S NOT JUST POSSIBLE. IT'S NECESSARY IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER 20 OF THESE BUILDINGS IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS. UH, I THINK THAT'S IT RIGHT ON TIME. UM, CAN I SAY IN IN, SINCE SOME OTHER, THE OPPOSITION TOOK A LITTLE EXTRA TIME, CAN I ADDRESS THEM DIRECTLY FOR JUST A SECOND? JUST A FEW MOMENTS. OKAY. UM, PARTICULARLY ALL YOU GUYS HERE AT PROTESTS, UH, OR SUPPORTING THE PROJECT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THEM AND I'M SORRY. UH, POINT OF ORDER, THIS SEEMS VERY UNORDINARY TO ALLOW US. SO YOU, YOU ADDRESS THE, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. OH, GOT IT. GOT IT. UH, ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL MAKE THIS SUPER SHORT GUYS AND BACK, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU. YOU CAN TALK, YOU CAN TALK ME OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A BAD GUY BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TALKING TO EACH OTHER. YEP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU WILL KNOW. I SKIPPED A PERSON. HOW ALL MOVING BACK TO MR. DAVID GUARINO, MR. RENO, IF Y'ALL HAVE, UH, YOUR PROCEEDED WITH YOUR MARKS, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN MY APOLOGIES. OKAY. I GOT A LITTLE DISTRACTED. UM, THANK YOU THOUGH. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. MARK. GRONER MS. GARNER. YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE AND, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. HI, MY NAME IS MARK BRENNER. MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT 39 0 3 WILBERT ROAD. UH, WE'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN FOR OVER A DECADE AND MOVES INTO THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD A FEW YEARS AGO. UH, WE RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND HOPE TO COME TO A RESOLUTION THAT FITS THOSE IN NEED OF SUPPORT AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY OF KT LOGS AND RELATED REZONING PROPOSAL. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AIMS THE TERM SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND EVEN DENSER HOUSING WITH THE NEW CONCORDIA DEVELOPMENTS. A FEW BLOCKS OUT FOR CONTEXT, THE CAN 40 PROJECT INCLUDED APPROXIMATELY 1300 UNITS ON 22 ACRES. THE EFFECTIVE DENSITY OF THAT PROJECT IS 55 TO 75 UNITS PER ACRE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THAT PROJECT THAT YOU'RE FINDING OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE UTILITY DISTRICT TO SUPPORT IT. WHY DOES STAFF THINK THAT I WANTED THEM 35 UNITS PER ACRE DEVELOPMENT WILL WORK WITHOUT A SMALLER, BUT SIMILAR PLANNING PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM ALEJANDRO AND GLOW MS. GULU, IF YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH ARAMARK'S. HELLO. UM, I WANNA SAY THAT I'M FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, BUT I OPPOSED THIS ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT LOT FOR THIS PROJECT. I BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE TRANSIT AND PROJECTING SAFETY AND KNOWLEDGES THE DENSITY OF THE LOT WILLING TO PLEASE, UM, THAT THIS PROJECT WILL INCLUDE THE DENSITY BY A HUNDRED, BUT I'M NOT SURE THIS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD OR THIS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT. UM, AS OTHERWISE, UH, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAVED, IT LET'S MAKE THE DIVIDE BOTH FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY BOSS AND FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL HEAR FROM STEVEN ECHO FOLLOWED BY LYNN CERNAN, STEVEN ECONOMICS. YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH YOUR MARKS. HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M IN SUPPORT OF DADDY LOSS MORE THAN I AM AGAINST THAT. UM, I AGREE WITH, UH, PREVIOUS SPEAKERS THAT THIS BETTER BE AWESOME. UM, 39TH STREET, FOR EXAMPLE, DOESN'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS. [01:50:01] UM, IF THE RESIDENTS OF PETTY LAW ARE IN WHEELCHAIR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T SEE HOW THEY'RE HELD DOWN THE STREET WITHOUT BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. UM, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, DEFINITELY, UH, PUSH SUPPORT FOR THIS, BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE, UM, SUPPORT OWN ADDING SIDEWALKS AND, AND MAKING THIS AREA MORE WALKABLE. UM, FOR EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING THE FUTURE RESIDENT PRETTY LONG. YEAH. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM LINDEN. SERANIN GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS LYNN SERANIN. I LIVE THREE BLOCKS FROM THE PROPOSED KATIE LOFT PROJECT. AN ISSUE THAT MUST BE LOOKED AT AND AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TIME TO BE ADDRESSED IS ONE THAT CONCERNS SAFETY. AS YOU HEARD, HEARD EVERYONE SAY 39TH STREET HAS NO SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE. IT IS A STREET WHERE CARS PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. IT COULD BE DISTRESSED DISASTROUS FOR A PERSON TRYING TO NAVIGATE IN A WHEELCHAIR OR BEING BLIND OR HEARING IMPAIRED 38 AND A HALF STREET IS NO BETTER. 38TH AND A HALF STREET HAS SEVERE LEVELS OF ADA NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THEIR SIDEWALK. 40TH STREET HAS ONE SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET, AND THAT SIDEWALK HAS EXTREME LEVELS OF ADA NONCOMPLIANCE. THE CROSS STREETS LINKING 39TH AND 40TH STREETS, BECKER AND WILBERT HAVE NO SIDEWALKS AT ALL. CHANEL 100 PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THIS LACK OF SAFE SIDEWALKS IS NEGLIGENT AT BEST, AND THIS SAFETY ISSUE SHOULD BE STUDIED IN DETAIL BEFORE THIS PLAN IS APPROVED. I THINK THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE DEFICIENT ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM JOEL, MAKE NEW TELECONFERENCE, MR. MCNEIL, IF YOU'RE A PRESIDENT ON TELECONFERENCE LIKE STAR SIX OKAY. I DID SKIP OVER A PERSON IN SUPPORT A ONE MINUTE SPEAKER, MR. JUSTIN GREEN SHOULD PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS. HELLO? YES. TO BE CLEAR. I AM SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THIS. UH, I DO NOT WANT TO BE LUMPED IN WITH THE OPPOSITION SPEAKERS. THE IDEA OF SICKENS ME, I'M JUSTIN I'M WITH AUSTIN JUSTICE COALITION, AUSTIN DSA, AND I'M A HANCOCK RESIDENT. SO WHAT, WHAT PREVENTS HOMELESSNESS IN THE FIRST PLACE? IT'S A COMPLEX ARRAY OF THINGS, A SOCIAL SAFETY NET, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, WELL PAYING JOBS AS A RESULT OF STRONG MILITANT LABOR UNITS, ET CETERA, UNIONS, ET CETERA. I AM SAD TO REPORT THAT THE UNITED STATES IS NOT THERE YET. AND UNFORTUNATELY IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO DISMANTLE CAPITALISM. SO WE NEED IMMEDIATE SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS THE HOMELESSNESS CRISIS. AND IF WE KEEP WAITING FOR THOSE PERFECT CIRCUMSTANCES TO COALESCE, OR WE KEEP DEFERRING TO OTHER PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS, PEOPLE WILL DIE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. LIKE KATIE LOFTS IS THAT IMMEDIATE SOLUTION. AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO SEE IT THROUGH, MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS AND MAKE SURE IT KEEPS HAPPENING. I LIVE A BLOCK AWAY FROM THIS PROPOSED SITE AND I SUPPORT KATIE LOFTS. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. HOLD ON. SHEER FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. JEREMIAH APOLOGIES. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM MR. BART WILDLY AND THEN THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, GOOD EVENING, BART WILDLY FOR THE NEIGHBOR PLAYING CONTACT TEAM, WANTING TO READ OUR STATEMENT THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AND IT IS WE CAN PACK A SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THIS SITE, AND WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION OF OPTION TWO THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US BY THE APPLICANT THAT DOES NOT NEED A ZONING OR PHLEGM CHANGE. WE ARE ALSO IN SUPPORTIVE, INCREASED DENSITY ON THE L OZONE LOTS. SO ESSENTIALLY THIS STRATEGY RESULTS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT IS A VERY SPECIFIC IN THIS AREA, NOT HAVING TO BE UNDONE. UH, THE STATEMENT IS ABOUT, UM, AN OBJECTION TO ZONING. UM, NOT BEING AN OBJECTION, OBJECTION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT'S A FALSE [01:55:01] PREMISE THAT A ZONING CHANGE IS NEEDED TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THE SITE. THANK YOU. OKAY. I BELIEVE WELL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT MS. LASH, I'LL HAVE 30 MINUTES. HELLO, GANG COMMISSIONERS, MEGAN LASH. UM, I SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, JUST NOT IN THIS LOCATION IS SOMETHING THAT I WISH I COULD TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF MY CAREER, THROUGHOUT MANY PARTS OF THE STATE. I ALSO WISH I COULD EXPLAIN HOW MANY THINGS HAVE TO REALLY COME IN LINE, UM, FROM THE LAND OWNERS BEING WILLING TO SELL AT THE RIGHT PRICE AND GIVING US THE TIME IT TAKES TO SECURE THIS FINANCING, UM, AND BEING COMPETITIVE ON THE STATE LEVEL AND THROUGH A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE PROCESS, A LOT OF STARS HAVE TO ALIGN TO EVEN BE IN THE POSITION THAT WE'RE AT. NOW. THERE'S A REASON WHY IT SCORES WELL, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN THIS DISTRICT, IN THIS CENSUS TRACT, UM, WE HAVE PERSONALLY BUILT OVER 150 FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IN DISTRICT NINE THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF. THERE ARE SOME PSH UNITS THAT ARE FAMILY IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, BUT WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY BASED ON THE, THE, UH, REPORT, THE ECHO PUT OUT THAT THE LARGEST DEMAND THAT WE'RE FACING AS A CITY IS IN SRO. THE 65 UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS MENTIONED, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF, WELL, WE'LL DO ANOTHER ONE. UM, HOWEVER THAT 65 UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE WOULD YIELD A HIGHER DENSITY OF PEOPLE. UM, YOU'RE LITERALLY KEPT AT ONE PERSON PER UNIT IN A SRO DEVELOPMENT. WHEN YOU START MIXING THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS, YOU CAN HAVE UP TO 2.5 PEOPLE IN A BEDROOM. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY IN THE CITY AND HOMELESSNESS. UM, I RESPECTFULLY HOPE THAT YOU TAKE ACTION TO START MAKING THOSE CHANGES. THANK YOU. SURE. THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SNYDER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOWARD AT THE GUEST. SAW YOUR HAND GO UP FIRST ON THE DYESS CLITS, PUBLIC HEARING. FAVOR THOSE ON THE SCREEN. ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT'S UH, 9, 9 0 0. OKAY. UH, LET'S GO AND MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE FULL QUESTIONS FOR THIS SIDE. I'M GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE NOT GOING TO LIMIT TIME. UM, EVEN THOUGH WE, ANYWAY, WHO'S FIRST, LET'S JUST TRY TO, LET'S TRY TO KEEP OUR QUESTIONS, UH, TO SING, TO NOT DEVIATE TOO MUCH FROM WHAT WE ARE HERE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS EVENING. SO PLEASE, UH, STAY FOCUSED, TRY TO GET DONE. SO WHO'S FIRST, UH, COMMISSIONER CUTS. I THINK MY QUESTIONS ARE LARGELY FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE AGREEABLE TO STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR MF FOUR. DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE THE CEO THAT YOU PROPOSED LIMIT THE HEIGHT? I THINK IT WAS TO 47 FEET. I WOULD PREFER TO LEAVE THE CEO OFF THE MFR JUST TO GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT THE CEO WAS IN PLACE WITH THE MF SIX, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WE WOULD NOT GO OVER, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT 47 FOOT AND HEIGHTS. UM, WE COME FROM, WE ARE TRYING TO SAY, UM, UNDER FOUR, FOUR STORIES. SO THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE HEADSPACE ON THE BUILDING AND IS MY RECOLLECTION CORRECT? THAT COMPATIBILITY IS NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABILITY AFFORDABILITY IN LOTS. YES, SIR. COMPONENT. OKAY. UM, YOU MENTIONED, UH, WELL, BEFORE I GET TO THAT QUESTION, UM, UH, SOMEONE MENTIONED THERE WAS OTHER, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT, THAT WERE RELATED TO HEIGHT. CAN YOU SURE? I BELIEVE THAT WAS A CEO. AND SO WE'RE CLEAR ON CEO'S. SO THE INTENT WAS TO ADD A CEO TO ANY ZONING WAS BASICALLY A SAFETY MEASURE, A BACKUP FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF OUR DEVELOPMENT DID NOT GO THROUGH AND GET ITS FINANCING, CEO'S ARE, UM, WHEN I USE THE WORD OVERRIDDEN WITH AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED. SO IF MY FINANCING, SORRY. SO IT'S THE, ANY, ANY EXISTING CEO'S KIND OF MOVE, MOVE WITH THE AFFORDABLE UNLOCKED. OKAY. SORRY TO PUSH YOU ALONG. I JUST KNOW I'M RESTRICTED WITH TIME. UM, SO THE MAIN QUESTION I WANTED TO GET TO, AND THIS IS JUST SHOWING MY IGNORANCE ON THESE PROJECTS, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT YOU MENTIONED, [02:00:01] YOU KNOW, CHANGING KIND OF THE NARRATIVE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I DO AGREE THAT, THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT, I THINK IT OFTEN, UH, CREATES A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION IN PEOPLE'S MINDS. I THINK A BIG PART OF THAT IS KIND OF THE ONGOING MANAGEMENT MAINTENANCE OF THESE PROPERTIES. UM, AND I'M CURIOUS, WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL MODEL OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING LIKE THIS? YOU TALKED ABOUT ONSITE MANAGEMENT, 24 HOURS AND OTHER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES BEING, BEING PROVIDED WHO ACTUALLY FUNDS THAT. AND HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THAT FUNDING CONTINUES SO THAT THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY IS EVERYTHING THAT, THAT EVERYBODY WANTS IT TO BE SURE. SO WITH THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING MODEL, THERE ARE CERTAIN, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SECURE SPECIFICALLY FOR SUPPORT SERVICES. IN ADDITION, UM, IT IS PLANNED FOR ALL OF THE UNITS TO HAVE A VOUCHER THROUGH EITHER HAKA OR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND THOSE WILL HELP GENERATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO HELP SERVE THE PROPERTY. MANY OF THE SUPPORT SERVICE PROVIDERS ALSO COME WITH THEIR OWN FUNDS AND GRANTS, AND THAT IS A MODEL THAT NEW HOPE IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN USING IN THEIR HOUSTON PROPERTIES AND REALLY ORCHESTRATING A GOOD, SOLID BASE OF, UM, FINANCES THAT CAN HELP GO TO OUR SUPPORT, UM, OUR SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES. IN ADDITION, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE A CONTINUE BE ISSUED THROUGH THE CONTINUUM OF CARE. AND SO THEY WILL HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF SERVICES ATTACHED WITH ORIGINAL THE RESIDENT ON ANY TAX RATE OF DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE TO DO, UM, AND BUDGET FOR SUPPORT SERVICES AS WELL OUTSIDE OF ALL OF THIS OTHER ITEMS I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT'S MORE OF A RECREATIONAL TYPE OF SUPPORT SERVICES, NOT, UM, HEALTHCARE OR, UM, MENTAL, UH, SUPPORT SERVICES. SO THIS ONE UNDERSTANDS. SO YOU RELY LARGELY ON LIKE TAX CREDITS AND GRANT FUNDING TO KIND OF KEEP THESE FACILITIES GOING. SO MY, MY LAST QUESTION IS IF WE APPROVE THIS ZONING REQUEST, UM, AND YOU DON'T GET THE INITIAL FUNDING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, OR FUTURE FUNDING FALLS THROUGH WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DEVELOPMENT OR WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PROPERTY BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING ACTUALLY GETS BUILT. SO, UM, IT WOULD BE ZONED EMMA FOR HOWEVER, A DEVELOPER THAT IS DOING A STRAIGHT MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S NOT DOING AFFORDABLY AND LOCKED, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COME BUILD WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, BECAUSE OF COMPATIBILITY. SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY PROBABLY BUILD SOMETHING WITH A LOWER DENSITY, EVEN. SO IT'S, IT'S PURELY GETTING, WE'RE GETTING TO CONSIDER WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING BECAUSE OF AFFORDABILITY AND LOST. AND IF, AND IF THE BUILDING IS BUILT, YOU RUN IT FOR A FEW YEARS, BUT THEN THAT FUNDING DRIES UP OR YOU CONVERT THIS INTO IS MARKET RATE HOUSING. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PUT ALIEN USE RESTRICTION ON THE PROPERTY FOR 45 YEARS. THE CITY OF AUSTIN AFFORDABLY AND LOCKED APPLICATION ALSO REQUIRES A LENGTHY, UM, LAND USE RESTRICTION. SO THERE'LL BE TWO OF THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, ASSURANCES THAT IT CANNOT BE CONVERTED TO MULTIFAMILY, UH, TO MARKET RATE. UM, THE PROGRAM IN OF ITSELF TYPICALLY DOES NOT SEE A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP, UM, OF MORE THAN, UM, BEFORE 15 YEARS. UM, IN ADDITION, OUR PARTNER IS HAKA AND, UH, THE AFFORDABLE ARM OR THE NONPROFIT ARM OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WHO HAS NOT SOLD A PROPERTY THAT THEY'VE EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, NEXT COMMISSIONER WITH QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER PRACTICES. UH, YES. THANK YOU. THIS IS ALSO A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, AND TO CLARIFY, THIS IS, UH, OUT OF CURIOSITY, UM, AS I, I WORK WITH FOLKS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. SO I'M THINKING OF SOME OF THE, UM, UNHOUSED RESIDENTS THAT I KNOW. UM, AND ONE IN PARTICULAR, UH, IS A WOMAN WHO USES, UM, DRUGS TO SELF-MEDICATE FOR HER SCHIZOPHRENIA AND A TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY THAT WAS CAUSED BY SEXUAL ABUSE AND ASSAULT AS A CHILD. AND SO I'M WONDERING IT'S BEEN VERY HARD FOR HER TO MAINTAIN ANY KIND OF HOUSING. UM, SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS NEW HOPES PROTOCOL FOR RESIDENTS THAT STRUGGLE WITH ADDICTION, UM, ISSUES. SO THAT DEPENDS ON, UM, YOU KNOW, I WISH NEW HOPE WAS HERE TOO, TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT DIRECTLY, SINCE THAT IS MORE IN THEIR WHEELHOUSE. BUT, UM, I KNOW IN MY EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH ECHO AND THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, THEY REALLY EVALUATE EACH PROPERTY AS THEY PLACE THE RESIDENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A RIGHT FIT AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO NOT JUST HOUSE THE RESIDENT, BUT, BUT PROVIDE THE PROPER AMOUNT OF SERVICE THAT, THAT RESIDENT, THE RIGHT KIND OF SERVICE, UM, SUPPORT SERVICES IF THE RESIDENT NEEDS. [02:05:01] OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I'M JUST, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE FOR FOLKS WITH THAT LEVEL OF NEED, THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH OF ANYTHING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS STRUGGLING WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA AND, UM, ADDICTION AND TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURIES. SO, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT. UH, COMMISSIONER TEACHER, UM, MR. MOLLICA IN YOU, PLEASE HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION AS WELL, IN TERMS OF SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR CLIENTS, PARTICULARLY AROUND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS BUT I SUPPOSE THIS QUESTION CAN BE GEARED AT ANY ONE OF OUR CEO'S DEPARTMENTS. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, SO, UH, RIGHT NOW, I THINK, UM, IN ANY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECT, UM, WE WOULD WORK CLOSELY WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE HOUSING PROVIDER TO NOT ONLY SECURE FUNDING FOR THE COST OF RENT. SO THE HOUSING VOUCHERS, UM, THAT WERE, THAT ARE THERE TO HELP OPERATE THE UNIT, UH, THE UNITS IN THE PROJECT, BUT WE WOULD ALSO WORK TO SECURE, UH, SUPPORT SERVICES THAT WOULD BE IN PLACE TO ADDRESS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, PRIMARY CARE, UM, AND, AND ANY OTHER TYPES OF SERVICE, UH, UM, VOCATIONAL SERVICE, UM, SERVICES, UH, IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT, UM, CONSERVE THE TENANTS IN THE BUILDING, UM, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS MEANT FOR PEOPLE AS A PERMANENT SPACE BECAUSE THEY NEED PERMANENT ASSISTANCE. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE SITE. UM, AND WE HAVE A HIGH NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, IN NEED OF THAT SERVICE BECAUSE WE HAVE ALMOST NO SITE-BASED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE HAVE 50 UNITS OF SITE-BASED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN CENTRAL TEXAS, AND THAT WAS BUILT, UH, THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH INTEGRAL CARE AT THE TERRACE AT OAK SPRINGS. UM, SO THIS PROJECT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED, UM, WILL BE RESOURCED. UM, WELL, UH, WELL ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THE TENANTS, UH, IN THE UNITS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT LARGE. AND I THINK NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS BEHIND YOU THAT, THAT, THAT ARE HERE TO SUPPORT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THEY'RE NOT HERE JUST TO GET THE THING BUILT. THEY'RE HERE TO SEE IT SUPPORT THE TENANTS. UM, AND THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS AND OURS AS WELL. I APPRECIATE THAT MR. , MR. DILLAHUNTY, I HAD A SERIES OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'M HOPING YOU CAN HELP ANSWER THOSE. I'LL START WITH THE FIRST. CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE, WHEN DID THE APPLICANT REACH OUT TO YOU AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THEIR INTENT TO DEVELOP THIS LAW AS SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND AS A TAX CREDIT PROPERTY? SURE. WE FIRST HEARD, UM, THROUGH A STATE FORM LETTER THAT, UM, FOR THE T H CDA FUNDING THAT CAME IN JANUARY. OKAY. AND CAN YOU ALSO TELL ME, WHEN DID THE APPLICANT SHARE THE SITE PLAN WITH YOU AND THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS AGAIN, WHEN YOU WENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? YEAH, I THINK THE INITIAL SITE PLANS, NOT THE SITE PLANS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. WE SAW FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MARCH, MARCH. SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IN OUR BACKUP WE HAVE A CLEAR EMAIL FROM MS. WOODS, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH WAS SENT ON FEBRUARY 24TH THAT SAYS A DASH AND SITE PLAN AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN FEBRUARY 24TH AND MARCH? UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC ATTACHMENT AND THE DATE. I MEAN, THAT'S ABOUT A WEEK DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THAT, MY RECOLLECTION WAS LATER, ESPECIALLY HOW THIS SITE PLAN HAS CHANGED OVER TIME AND THE ALL HOCKEY. CAN YOU ALSO PLEASE TELL ME, WHEN DID YOU SHARE THE SITE PLAN WITH THE REST OF YOUR NEIGHBORS? UM, WE, WE HAD A GENERAL MEETING, UM, AN H AND A MEETING, A REGULAR MEETING IS, UM, THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. AND THAT WAS A MARCH GENERAL MEETING WHEN, UM, KATIE LOFTS WAS THE PRIMARY AGENDA ITEM. SO AM I UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY THAT YOU WAITED THREE WEEKS BEFORE SHARING THE SITE PLAN WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AFTER IT WAS SHARED WITH YOU IN, IN EFFECT? YES, BUT WE NEEDED PRESENTATION AND CONTEXT FROM THE DEVELOPER, UM, IN ORDER TO PRESENT AND UNDERSTAND THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, ALSO, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME, WHAT IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? SO WE'RE HEARING FROM SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS SAYING THEY WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT THEY WERE NOT CONSULTED AND THAT THEY DISAGREE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WHAT EFFORTS DID YOU OR OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS MAKE TO REACH OUT TO EVERYONE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING DENTISTS? SURE. SO THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS, UM, SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEAFLETED, AND FLYERED THE IMMEDIATELY IMPACTED AREA 500 FEET. AND WE'VE REACHED OUT THROUGH OUR H AND A LISTSERV AND NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP. UM, UNFORTUNATELY EVERYONE'S NOT A MEMBER, BUT MOST OF THE IMMEDIATE PEOPLE WERE CONTACTED, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST MONTH. CAN YOU ALSO SHARE HOW D HOW [02:10:01] DOES USUALLY THE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION REACH OUT TO TENANTS? BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT USUALLY POPULAR, SO IF YOU'RE SENDING IT OUT, THEY MIGHT NOT RECEIVE INFORMATION THE SAME WAY. SO I'M WONDERING HOW DID Y'ALL SHARE INFORMATION WITH AND SPECIFIC? SO WE, WE REACH OUT TO TENANTS THE SAME WAY. WE REACH OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIST, AND WE ALSO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD BLUE NEWSLETTER THAT GETS MAILED OUT TO A NUMBER OF ADDRESSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING TENANTS. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DATA ON HOW MANY TENANTS ARE ON YOUR LIST SERVE, OR AS OFFICIAL MEMBERS OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF, OF THE DIFFERENT GROUPS. WE DO HAVE TENANTS AND RENTERS THAT ARE A MEMBER OF H AND A THOUGH, IN FACT, ONE OF OUR OFFICES, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE SPECIFICS. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEP. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. UH, NEXT COMMISSIONER WITH QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A SPACE THEN. UH, I JUST, FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, I'D REALLY WANT TO KNOW FOR, UM, CAUSE WE HAVE MS. SIX, UM, IN PCO IS KIND OF THE REQUEST, ALTHOUGH WE KNOW STAFF IS RECOMMENDING MFA FOR, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY? UM, DO YOU GET ANY MORE BENEFITS OUT OF THE MF SIX NPC O VERSUS THE MF FOR REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH AT FIRST, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A DENSITY ISSUE. AND THEN WE REALIZED IT WAS WAIVED WITH AFFORDABLY UNLOCKED, BUT, UM, WE ORIGINALLY HAD A FULL PODIUM STRUCTURE BUILDING THAT DID NOT ALLOW US TO CREATE THAT GREEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, UM, OPENING UP THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY FOR GREEN SPACE, ALLOWED US TO MEET THE MF FOR IMPERVIOUS COVER AND BUILDING COVERAGE. SO IT GIVES A GREATER AMOUNT OF GIVES A GREATER AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER IN AN, IN BUILDING COVERAGE ALLOWED ON THE SITE. BUT WE'RE FINE WITH THE MFR. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF VOICES ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, HELD CITY MEETING THAT VOICED MF FOUR. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE KIND OF WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SAID, CAN WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? UM, I BELIEVE MS. MARY INGLE HAD BROUGHT UP SOME GREEN SPACE. SO WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. AND IT WORKED OUT TO WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO SQUEEZE INTO THE MF MF. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE . OKAY. UM, UM, THE, THE CON ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ANY, THE, THE EXAMPLE IS OF THE HOUSTON AREA, UH, THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND, AND WHAT STRUCK ME IS THEY'RE NOT NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT I, I STARTED TO WONDER, DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SERVICES? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW HOUSTON PICKS THOSE SPOTS VERSUS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? SO, AND I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THEIR PROPERTIES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAD THE KANPAK MEETING LAST WEEK, UM, JOY, HORAK BROWN, WHO IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEW HOPE, WAS THERE PRESENT AND PARTICIPATED IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION. AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY SEVERAL, I LOOKED AT HIM WHILE WE WERE IN THE MEETING. AND THERE'S SIMILAR LOCATIONS AS FAR AS, IS THERE A GIANT NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO US? NO, BUT ARE THERE HOUSES YES. ON THEIR PROPERTIES? UM, SO HOUSTON JUST IN OF ITSELF IS VERY DIFFERENT WITH THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT. SO IT'S HARD TO FIND A DIRECT COMPARISON, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO, TO SEVERAL OF THEIR PROPERTIES. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS. UM, WE STILL HAVE LET'S CHECK. I THINK WE HAVE FOUR MORE SPOTS I'M LOOKING AROUND. I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS, SO, OH, OKAY. COMMISSIONING ON THIS PLATO. I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. UH, I MOVED UH, TO, UH, GRANT STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT MFR AND P WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, UM, APPLIES. UM, I SEE THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN ECHO. I WASN'T CLEAR ON YOUR MOTION. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I MOVED TO SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR MFA, FOR NP, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED APPLIES. OKAY. AND THAT WAS, UM, MOST OF MY YOUNGEST PLUTO'S SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SNYDER. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? YES, PLEASE. UM, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORS, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT ABOUT THIS CASE. AND, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I, I JUST WANT TO NOTE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY, UH, NEW FACES ADVOCATING AROUND, UM, THIS CASE, AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT LEARNING OPPORTUNITY AND AN INTRODUCTION TO SOME OF THIS, UM, SOLVING THE REALLY TOUGH PROBLEMS THAT WE REALLY DO WANT TO SOLVE IN AUSTIN. UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I DO, I HAVE, I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF ENGAGING [02:15:01] WITH MS. LASH AS A NEIGHBOR. UH, ACTUALLY THE BALI, WHICH YOU ALL SAW IN THE PRESENTATION IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I SUPPORTED LIFTING A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO GET THAT TITLE, UM, INSURANCE AND, UM, WAS V I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND REWARD THE GOOD FAITH EFFORTS OF A DEVELOPER THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, AND ALSO TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, NEIGHBORS, OFTENTIMES HOMEOWNERS. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THERE'S A TENANT OFFICER IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT THEY ARE VOLUNTEERING. AND, UM, IT'S A DIFFICULT, IT'S A DIFFICULT RESPONSIBILITY TO ENGAGE, RIGHT. BUT I HAVE SEEN, AND IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED THAT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN PRETTY ROBUST ON THIS EFFORT. UM, IT'S A LOT OF DENSITY FOR THE SITE, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THE DETAIL AND ATTENTION THAT'S BEING GIVEN TO EACH PIECE. UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE AWARE THAT IT IS ACTUALLY THE REGULATION, THE RESTRICTION TO SINGLE FAMILY ZONING AND THE PROTECTION OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAS KEPT THE LAND VALUES DOWN LOW ENOUGH TO MAKE A SALE FOR THIS PROJECT POSSIBLE. UM, AND IT IS ACTUALLY THE PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC PROCESS OF NOTIFICATION AND THESE HEARINGS, UH, FOR LAND USE DECISIONS THAT ALLOWS US TO BE CHOOSY ABOUT THESE PROJECTS AND CHOOSE THE KIND OF PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO RETURN GREAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT. UM, AND SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE SOME OF THE, UM, ADVOCATES, ESPECIALLY FOLKS LIKE MR. MOORE CHAZ, THERE MIGHT BE SOME VOTES THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO BACK AND WATCH. AND I WELCOME THE CONVERSATION AROUND THAT, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO COST US MORE TO BUILD NEW HOUSING. WE'RE SEEING WHERE UP ZONING IS ACTUALLY ACTIVELY DISPLACING PEOPLE. AND IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOME REALLY GREAT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND A VERY HIGH OPPORTUNITY CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I'M, UM, I'M GLAD THAT IT WILL BE IN MY DISTRICT AND I, WHICH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND APPLICANT GREAT SUCCESS IN FURTHER NEGOTIATING THIS TO MAKE IT THE BEST PROJECT THAT CAN POSSIBLY BE. OKAY. UH, ANY COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST THIS MOTION? UH, COMMISSIONER CUTS, NOT, NOT AGAINST, I WAS WONDERING IF I COULD OFFER AN AMENDMENT. OKAY. UH, IS THIS SUBSTITUTION OR AN AMENDMENT? UH, YOU TELL ME, I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST GOING TO OFFER UP AN AMENDMENT FOR THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT WOULD, UH, GLUTAMATE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT ON THE PROPERTY TO 50 FEET. UH, COULD I HAVE A CLARIFICATION STAFF? WHAT'S HIM A FOUR CURRENTLY 60 I'M OPEN TO THAT CABLE UP AT 60 FEET. MAXIMUM, MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 60 FEET. AND ALL RIGHT, SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD UNDER THIS, UNDER THIS MOTION. IT WOULD LAST 60 FEET. YES. WELL, UNDER CURRENT MF, IF THEY GOT STRAIGHT MFR ZONING, IT WOULD BE 60 FEET. IF THE COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A CONDITIONAL OVERNIGHT, DID LIMITED TO SOMETHING LESS. YOU CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. JUST CHECKING HERE. W WHAT DIRECTION WE WERE GOING OVER. WASN'T SURE. SO, OKAY. SO THE SOUNDS LIKE AN AMENDMENT TO ME, THE LIMIT, THE HIGH THROUGH A CONDITIONER OVERLAID IF 50 FEET. UM, DO I HAVE A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER LEON'S PLAY-DOH OKAY. I BELIEVE YOU WERE IN FAVOR, UH, SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION. YOU WANT TO COMMISSIONER COPS? YEAH. JUST REAL QUICK. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT. UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE INVOLVED. UM, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES TO US ADVERTISING A SPECIFIC PROJECT, THEY'VE SOLD THAT PROJECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, TO, TO THE STAKEHOLDERS. UM, WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT GETS DELIVERED. AND SO, UM, THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY WANT TO GO UP TO FOUR STORIES, 50 FEET ALLOWS THAT. AND SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF CREATE THAT BOX. THEY GET THE PROJECT THAT'S PRESENTED TO US. OKAY. ANY COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST THIS ITEM? C O UH, YES. GO AHEAD, MR. ANDERSON. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. OKAY. QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO, AS I UNDERSTAND, CEO'S UNDER AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE REST OF THAT? I BELIEVE YOUR QUESTION IS, WILL AFFORDABILITY, I'M LOCKED BE EFFECTED BY THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, AND THAT WILL BE NO. UNDERSTOOD. GREAT. THANK YOU. CHAIR COMMISSIONER LAYS ON THE HANDOVER AND ALSO ON THE, UM, IN REGARDS TO DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS, THOSE ARE VOLUNTARY. SO THE, UM, THAT IT CAN NOT BE A CONDITION THAT WILL BE STRIKED FROM THE MOTION. OKAY. UM, DO YOU COMMISSIONER, I JUST PLAYED A G HERE THAT WE CAN'T INCLUDE THAT AS A CONDITION OF THE MOTION. SO IS THAT, UM, STAFF [02:20:01] RECOMMENDATION? I'M SORRY. YEAH. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS MFR NP. SO CAN I, IS THERE A FIVE? WHY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO, SO THE AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED AS A SEPARATE PROGRAM IN THE CITY THAT THE APPLICANT HAS APPLIED TO, HOWEVER, IT IS REVIEWED BY A SEPARATE GROUP OF STAFF BY THE REAL ESTATE DIVISION. AND SO WE CANNOT REQUIRE AN APPLICANT TO DO AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED THROUGH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IN A ZONING CASE. YES. THE INTENTION FOR THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WAS ONLY TO APPLY TO HEIGHT, NOT TO AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, RESTATE THE MOTION, IF THAT'S HELPFUL. I THINK IN THE INITIAL STATEMENT, IT WAS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT AFFORDABILITY AND WITH APPLY TO THE ZONING. AND SO THAT WAS WRAPPED INTO THE IDEA OF BEING PART OF A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. YEAH. SO, UM, CHAIR, MAY I RESTATE THE MOTION OR DO I NEED TO RESCIND IT AND RE I THINK YOU CAN RESTATE BECAUSE YOU HAVE EMOTION ON THE TABLE AND THEN YOU HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FROM COMMISSIONER COX, WHICH YOU HAVE ACCEPTED. GREAT. OKAY. SO THEN I'LL JUST RESTATE. SO THIS IS FOR TWO SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION, MFA FOR NP, WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY TO THE LIMITS OF 50 FEET. WELL, OKAY, SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE STARTING, SORRY, NOT SEVEN ROTATION, MF OR NP, CONDITIONAL OVERLAY LIMIT TO 30 FEET NONSTOP RECOMMENDATIONS. WELL, JUST POINT OF ORDER, I THINK WE HAD A, UH, AN AMENDMENT ON YOUR MOTION. LET ME TELL ME IF NOT, , WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST CLARIFYING THAT MOTION, REMOVING THE MENTION OF AFFORDABILITY AND LUCK. WE'RE STILL OVER HERE WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER COX, THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND RESOLVE. UM, AND SO TRYING TO DO THAT, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT AMENDMENT? OR CAN WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT? ANYBODY FAR AGAINST COMMISSIONERS? ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR IN FAVOR OR AGAINST? I WILL BE SPEAKING AGAINST CHAIR. I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, BUT I THINK WE'VE SEEN A PARTNER'S HAKA. THIS WILL BE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. THE OWNERSHIP HAS ITS OWN REQUIREMENTS TO LIVE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT HAD ITS OWN PRODUCTIONS. THE SAME FUNDING HAS ITS OWN PROTECTION. AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED HAS ITS OWN PROTECTIONS. I REALLY FEEL WE'RE TAKING UNNECESSARY STEPS IN PUTTING THIS ONLY IN REALLY CREATING RESTRICTIONS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE CREATING ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT I THINK IT'S BAD PLANNING. LOU SAW THIS EARLIER. WHEN WE, A LOT OF OVERLAYS, WE CREATE ACTUAL WORD. IT'S FUNNY FOLKS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT US CREATING SPOT ZONING. AND HERE WE ARE GETTING A LOTS OF DIFFERENT FASHION WORK SPOTS, ALL OF OUR CITY, BECAUSE WE EAT PUTTING CEO'S ON TOP OF IT. I DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT THE CA AND I REALLY HOPE THAT WE DO NOT CONTINUE TO DO THIS WITH MULTIPLE PROPERTIES, CREATING A BATCH WORK. THAT IS VERY HARD TO KEEP UP WITH ME, MR. SPEAKING, FOR THE AMENDMENT TO LIMIT THE HEIGHTS 50 FEET. I'LL SPEAK TO IT BRIEFLY. OKAY. UM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT IN SOME CASES, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY CAN MITIGATE WHAT MIGHT BE PERCEIVED AS SPOTS DEAFENING WHEN WE HAVE ZONE ON SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS DIRECTLY ADJACENT. UM, SO I DON'T SEE IT AS, AS A ADDITIONAL RESTRICTION, AS MUCH AS, UM, A WAY OF ACTUALLY PLANNING IN SOME OF THE NUANCE, UM, WHICH IS WHY I'M OPEN TO IT. AND ALSO I THINK IT, IT, IT, IT RECOGNIZES THE GOOD FAITH OF THE NEGOTIATION. ALSO HAPPY TO SEE THIS GO, YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY. BUT I THINK THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IS, IS HELPFUL. OKAY. ANY MORE COMMISSIONER JUST WANT TO SPEAK FAR AGAINST BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, UH, COMMISSIONER, I'LL BE SPEAKING AGAINST THIS. UM, I, AS WE JUST HEARD UNDER AFFORDABILITY AND LOT THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IS MOOT ANYWAY. AND WITH, WITH EXCLUSIONARY ZONING, BEING WHAT IT IS AND THE PATCHWORK OF HORRIBLE ZONING IN THIS AREA AND IN AUSTIN IN THE 1984 LANE DEVELOPMENT CODE, LIKE YOU JUST LOOK AT ALL THESE CEO'S EVERYWHERE AND IT'S JUST COMPLETE RUBBISH. AND SO THE DAY WE DO AWAY WITH ALL OF OUR CEO'S WILL BE A BETTER DAY IN AUSTIN. I JUST CAN'T ADD MORE TO THIS. SURE. I HAVE A QUESTION. OH, OKAY. IS IT ON THIS AMENDMENT? YEAH, IT IS BECAUSE, UH, I'M, I'M CONFUSED NOW IS THE CEO TRULY MOOT IF AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED IS USED ON THIS PROPERTY, LIKE WE JUST HEARD WE CAN GET CLARIFICATION AND STAFF THAT I BELIEVE IT IS. UM, IF THEY GO THAT DIRECTION, IT WOULD NOT RECOGNIZE THE CEO. THAT IS CORRECT. IF THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION FOR AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, GOES TO THE PROCESS AND IS APPROVED, THEN NO, THE CEO WOULD NOT APPLY. THE CEO WOULD ONLY APPLY IF THE APPLICANT DID NOT GO THROUGH THE AFFORDABILITY AND LAUNCH PROGRAM AND DEVELOPED UNDER MF FOR CEO WITH THE 50 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT. BUT, BUT THEN, BUT THEN [02:25:01] COMPATIBILITY WOULD ALSO APPLY. COMPATIBILITY ALSO IS WAIVED BY AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, BUT, BUT IF THEY DON'T GO THROUGH AFFORDABILITY ONLINE, YES. COMPATIBILITY WOULD APPLY IF IT IS DEVELOPED UNDER STRAIGHT . OKAY. SO, SO, UH, SHERRY THE BUREAU WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THIS, DOES IT CEO REALLY EVEN MATTER IN THIS CASE NOW? UM, WELL, I BELIEVE AS MS LASH SAID IT WAS AN ASSURANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THIS PROJECT DID NOT WORK OUT THAT, THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE LIMITED TO MS. GARCIA WITH A HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON IT, BUT, BUT WITH, BUT WITH COMPATIBILITY AND BEING RIGHT NEXT TO NSF, WHAT IS IT THREE, HOW FAR BACK WOULD THAT 50 FOOT LIMIT GO? IT DEPENDS ON THE WIDTH OF THE LOT. AND THEN IN THE STREET FRONTAGE, IF IT'S A HUNDRED FEET OR MORE, HEY, FOLKS, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE, I'M SORRY. WE CAN'T DO A LOT OF Q AND A IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEBATE HERE. IT'S UM, I KNOW IT ADDS CLARITY, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. SO ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER AND SO ON SEEK FOR AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT FOR, TO TAKE A VOTE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE THEN ON THE AMENDMENT, UH, BY COPS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER YONIS, PALITO TO, UH, ADD A CO TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO 50 FEET. UM, LET'S START WITH THOSE ON THE DIOCESE. OKAY. UM, AND I GOT TO KEEP TRACK HERE. UM, AND THEN THOSE ON THE SCREEN, WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, AND HOLD IT UP JUST A LITTLE WHILE LONGER. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT MOTION FAILS. UM, AND THE COUNT WAS FOR, TO, UH, HELP ME OUT HERE FOR FOUR TO FIVE, UM, YEAH, FOUR IN FAVOR AND FIVE AGAINST THOSE VOTING AGAINST WHERE COMMISSIONERS ANDERSON, SHAW AND THOMPSON, AND THEN MR. ZAR AND HOWARD WERE VOTING AGAINST. AND SO THAT MOTION FAILS. LET'S GO TO THE BASE MOTION, UH, WHICH IS FOR MFR NP, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION. UH, WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF GO AHEAD, COMMIT TO SCHNEIDER. YOU WANT TO SPEAK, OR I I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PRIMARY EMOTION. OKAY, GOOD. GO AHEAD. AND THEN I BELIEVE HE WAS ALL SAND WAS UP. OKAY. WE ALREADY HAD, OKAY. UH, SURE. LET'S START WITH SCHNEIDER AND NEVER GOT A COMMISSIONER OF PRACTICE AND THEN COMMISSIONER AZHAR. SO, UH, I AM A STONE'S THROW FROM THE BLUEBONNET STUDIOS, WHICH IS A VERY SIMILAR PROJECT. IT'S FOUR STORIES, THAT'S 107 EFFICIENCY APARTMENTS. IT IS BOTH, UM, TRANSITIONAL AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. UH, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, UM, BUT FAIRLY NEW. UM, IT HAS, UH, LIMITED ACCESS CONTROLLED ACCESS. IT HAS, UH, ONSITE SUPPORT SERVICES. IT'S SIMILAR TO THIS PROPERTY, UH, TO THE PROPOSAL IN A LOT OF WAYS. AND I THINK ORIGINALLY THERE WAS CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY OF RESIDENTS OF THE, AND SAFETY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF BLUEBONNET STUDIOS. AND, UM, MY EXPERIENCE IS THIS HAS BECOME A NON-ISSUE. UM, THE FACT THAT IT IS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, IT'S IRRELEVANT. THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST NEIGHBORS. THERE. IT IS WELL MANAGED. UH, IT PROVIDES A REALLY KEY, IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IN, IN MOVING PEOPLE FROM HOMELESSNESS INTO A PERMANENT SITUATION, WHETHER IT'S TYPICALLY BOUGHT AT STUDIOS OR SOMEPLACE ELSE. UM, I THINK THESE ARE, THESE ARE GOOD PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SORTS OF SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT INTO THIS PROJECT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. UM, JUST, JUST REAL QUICK, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UH, PRACTICES AND IT'S, ARE, ARE YOU SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION? OKAY. UM, IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION, I'M GOING TO WAVE OUR RULES JUST BRIEFLY. CAUSE I THINK GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS CASE AND THE MEANING OF THE COMMUNITY, I'M GOING TO GIVE COMMISSIONERS TO SPEAK. SO IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION, WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE OUR, UH, DEBATE RULES JUST FOR THIS ONE ITEM. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMISSIONER PRACTICES, MR. ZAR AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. UM, AND, UH, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK, BUT KEEP IT BRIEF, PLEASE, IF YOU CAN. THANKS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, YES. UM, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I SUPPORT THIS A HUNDRED PERCENT AND WHILE I'VE BEEN ON PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WHENEVER A DEEPLY AFFORDABLE, UM, DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS COMES THROUGH THE VOTE HAS BEEN UNANIMOUS IN FAVOR. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, UM, A FALSE BINARY. UM, AS I SHARE MY SUPPORT, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BINARY APPROACH, WORK, ANTI [02:30:01] DENSITY AND DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE RAPIDLY LOSING OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OFTEN TO HIGH DENSITY, LUXURY OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE AS PLANNING COMMISSION FACILITATE THROUGH OUR REZONINGS. AND SO I APPRECIATE FOLKS WHO CAME OUT TODAY AND WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT LAST PLANNING COMMISSION WE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE OLD HOMESTEAD BMU REZONING, WHICH THE RENTERS TOLD US WOULD FACILITATE THE DEAL THAT CAUSES THEM TO BE EVICTED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR AND PUT THEM AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS AND DISPLACEMENT FROM THE CITY. HAVE YOU MET THE RESIDENTS? THEY ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE, VETERANS SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS, BLACK AND LATINEX, IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, REGULAR AUSTIN NIGHTS. SO, UM, BEING INVOLVED IN PERMANENTLY SUPPORTING OR SUPPORTING PSH, UM, DOES NOT WASH OUR HANDS OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE. UM, WE DO NEED HOUSING, BUT LET'S BE SPECIFIC. WE NEED TRULY DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE NEED TO BUILD IT AND PRESERVE IT. SO WHO GETS TO PRESERVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, WAS BROUGHT UP TODAY. UH, AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT NIMBYISM SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO DESCRIBE WORKING CLASS BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORS, TRYING TO DEFEND THEIR COMMUNITY FROM LUXURY DEVELOPMENTS AND GENTRIFICATION. AND I'VE SEEN THAT DONE HERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION AND NEARLY EVERY DAY I'M OUT WITH PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. MY FATHER, UM, IS A BROWN MAN WHO EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS. I'M WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS, UM, SEARCHING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT'S GETTING HARDER AND HARDER. AND MANY FOLKS I KNOW HAVE PROBLEMS WITH REZONINGS FOR LUXURY DENSITY, LUXURY DENSITY THAT CAUSED GENTRIFICATION WITH DROUGHT, WHICH DRIVES UP SURROUNDING PROPERTY VALUES AND BREATHS. HOWEVER, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I AM ALL FOR DEEPLY, TRULY AFFORDABLE DENSITY, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE CASE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT. WE GOT TO KEEP IT WITHIN OUR TWO MINUTES. SO PLEASE COMMISSIONER AS ARE YOUR NET AND K CHAIR. SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HERE, INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE OPPOSED, THE PROJECT HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY CONCERNED WITH THE PROJECT, BUT THE PROCESS. LET ME JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. THE INTENT TO DO THIS PROJECT WAS SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD 138 DAYS AGO. THE SITE PLAN WAS SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD 90 DAYS AGO, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS UNABLE TO SHARE THIS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THEIR OTHER NEIGHBORS FOR SEVERAL WEEKS. AND I WILL BE HONEST THAT SOME NEIGHBORS HAVE REALLY SHOWN A LOT OF SURPRISE, THAT INFORMATION WAS SHARED SO EARLY AND THEY NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT FOR WEEKS. AND IN SOME CASES, MONTHS, WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT APPLICANTS AND DEVELOPERS DO THAT BREAK COMMUNITY TRUST. I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT, TAKE A MINUTE, TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS MAY DO, WHETHER THAT'S INTENTIONALLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE OR INVERT, INADVERTENTLY, AND ALSO BREAK TRUST IN A NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS. SO WHEN NEIGHBORHOODS WITHHOLD INFORMATION, WHEN THEY'RE UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO REACH OUT TO ALL THEIR NEIGHBORS AND ACCOUNT FOR THE DIVERSE OPINIONS, WHEN THEY PETITION THE STATE TO REVOKE FUNDING FROM AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, THAT'S ROBBING OUR COMMUNITY OF MUD NINJA FEDERAL ASSISTANCE. AND WHEN NEIGHBORS THREATENED LAWSUITS TO HELP HER KILL AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, THIS ALSO BREAKS TRUST. AND AS COMING STRAIGHT ON, AS WE'VE MENTIONED, THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS LIKE US. AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CARRY OUT THEIR DUTIES ONLY AS THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS AND AUSTIN DEMANDS, AS WE SAW IN THIS CASE, I QUESTIONED HOW DO WE MAKE THIS PROCESS MORE EQUITABLE? THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESSES, AND EXTREMELY IMPORTANT COMPETENT OF THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE, BUT WE NEED TO ASSESS ITS IMPACT ON THE MOST MARGINALIZED AND DISENFRANCHISED IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M REALLY LEAVING THIS MEETING TODAY, THINKING, CAN WE REASONABLY RELY ON OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS TO CREATE EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE WHO HAVE WE ADVANTAGED THE VOTES AND CULVERTS IN OUR COMMUNITY? OR IS IT TIME TO REASSESS HOW WE CAN ABOOD THIS PROCESS WITH AN EYE TOWARDS INCLUSIVITY AND EQUITY? SO YES, I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR, BUT I'M ALSO QUESTIONING HOW DO WE MAKE OUR PROCESS BETTER COMMISSIONER ANDERSON NEAR THE LAST ONE HOUR? OKAY. HEY EVERYBODY. OH MY GOD, ALL THESE NEW FACES DOWN HERE. I JUST LOVE EVERY BIT OF THAT. SO THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE CALLED THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT, WHICH IS A VERY INTERESTING DOCUMENT. HOPE YOU ALL GET TO LOOK AT IT. AND IT'S ALSO VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T JUST GET SUBSIDIZED HOUSING UNITS. WE ALSO HAVE TO GET AFFORDABLE BONUS UNITS, RIGHT? AND THAT COMES THROUGH DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS. AND SO WE HAVE TO BUILD A LOT OF HOUSING. IF WE'RE GOING TO HOUSE THE FOLKS WHO NEED HOUSING, WE'RE ABOVE 80%. AND ESPECIALLY THE FOLKS WHO ARE EARNING BELOW 80%, I WORK IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE ARE JUST NOWHERE NEAR MEETING ANY OF OUR GOALS FOR ANY OF THOSE, UH, INCOME GROUPS. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M VERY GLAD THAT WE HAVE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED TO OVERRULE COMPATIBILITY ON THE SITE BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'D GOT HALF THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD HERE DESPERATELY NEEDED UNITS. COMPATIBILITIES STILL EXIST ON ALL OF OUR OTHER CORRIDORS AND STILL GETTING MORE HOUSING UNITS THAN ANY OTHER RULE OUT THERE. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AS A COMMUNITY SOON. AND THERE'S ALWAYS EXCUSES AGAINST HOUSING [02:35:01] ABOUT, I HEARD A LOT OF PRO VOICES FOR HOUSING TODAY, AND THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY WONDERFUL. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT LAWSUITS, AND I HOPE THIS DOESN'T GO THAT ROUTE. I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS A THREAT OF A LAWSUIT WHEN THERE'S HOUSING AT PLAY. SOMETIMES LAWSUITS COST US A LOT MORE HOUSING UNITS THAN OTHERS. HOPEFULLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE, BUT REALLY EXCITED THAT NEW HOPE COMMUNITIES IS COMING TO AUSTIN. THAT'S JUST A REALLY BIG DEAL. AND I HOPE EVERYONE REALIZES WHAT A BIG DEAL THAT IS. THEY'RE COMING TO AUSTIN. AND THE VERY LAST THING I'D LOVE TO JUST TO GET THUMBS UP, IS THIS COMMUNITY GOING TO BE AWESOME? THAT'S ALL I HEARD IS IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME. OKAY. A LOT OF THUMBS UP. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. GONNA BE AWESOME. THANK YOU. UH, SO JUST CLARIFICATION ON BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE, UM, YOU KNOW, PREFERENCES WERE TAKEN UP THESE SIX, SEVEN, SO MOTION MAKER, THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UH, AND, UH, AND THE, UH, NFR NP, BOTH CORRECT CHEMISTRY ON HIS IT UP. AND WE'RE TAKING THIS STEP RECOMMENDATION, MFR, NP, AND FOUR, BUT YEAH, SO, AND FOR THE, UH, OKAY. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. STAFF RECOMMENDATION. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GO AND TAKE A VOTE, UH, ON THE DIES FIRST WAS IN FAVOR. UH, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. AND NOW THOSE, UH, LET ME GO AND SEE THOSE VIRTUALLY. OKAY. LET'S SEE. OKAY. UM, LET'S SEE. LET'S LOOK AT OUR NEXT ITEM. I MIGHT ADVOCATE FOR A QUICK BREAK HERE. LET'S SEE WHAT CHATHAM WE GOT. UM, YEAH, LET'S TAKE A, WE CAN KEEP THIS TO FIVE MINUTE BREAK FOLKS AND GET BACK JUST, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA COME BACK HERE AT EIGHT 50. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH B 10, UH, WITH THE STAFF REPORT. SO WE'RE, UH, BRINGING THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER AT 8 52. UM, AND WE'RE TAKEN [B10. Rezoning: C14-2022-0038 - 2320 E Riverside Dr; District 3 (Part 1 of 2)] UP ITEM BEATEN. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER MEMBERS. MY NAME IS WENDY ROSE WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UH, THIS CASE IS, UH, LOCATED AT 2320 EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE. UH, IT, THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY ONE HALF OF AN ACRE AND IT CONTAINS A VACANT CHICKEN RESTAURANT AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR. IT HAS A SUB-DISTRICT OF CORRIDOR MIXED USE AND IS PERMITTED CURRENTLY TO CONSTRUCT BUILDINGS UP TO 60 FEET IN HEIGHT WITH A BASE THERE BASED FLOOR AREA RATIO OF TWO TO ONE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND FIGURE ONE EIGHT, WHICH IS THE BONUS HEIGHT MAP TO ALLOW FOR UP TO 160 FEET IN HEIGHT. IF THE PROJECT MEETS THE DEVELOPMENT BONUS PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. AND THE INTENT IS TO REDEVELOP, UH, THIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, WHICH IS A SHOPPING CENTER, A COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER, UM, TOGETHER, UH, AND, AND THAT COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER ALREADY HAS THE ABILITY TO BUILD UP TO 160 FEET THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT BONUS. UH, THE STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. IT IS, UH, EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE AS A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR. IT IS ALSO LOCATED ALONG THE BLUE LINE, THE PROPOSED BLUE LINE OF PROJECT CONNECT AND, UH, INCREASED DENSE INCREASE. INCREASING AUTONOMOUS TO THIS LIGHT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED IF THE APPLICANT COMPLIED WITH THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM OF THE ERC. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. AND YOU WILL NOT HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT MR. RICHARD TUTTLE, MR. SOLO, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME'S RICHARD SUTTLE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TONIGHT, AND I HOPE TO KEEP THIS REALLY SHORT AND SIMPLE AND NOT AS COMPLICATED YOUR LAST ONE. UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHAT YOU HAVE IS BASICALLY, UH, OFF TO THE RIGHT OF THE RED SQUARE AS A SHOPPING CENTER THAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED. IF IT PARTICIPATES IN THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM TO GO UP TO ONE 60, THE LITTLE SQUARE, THERE IS A AS A PIECE, IT HAS A NOTCH OUT OF IT. WE HAD NOT FIGURED OUT WHY IT WAS NOTCHED OUT, BUT NOW WE HAVE BOTH OF THOSE. WE WANT TO COMBINE THEM WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER IN THE HOPES OF PARTICIPATING IN THE DENSITY BONUS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THAT'S WHAT'S THERE NOW. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOU SEE, 2320 IS THE LITTLE LIGHT PURPLE NOTCH OUT THAT IS SURROUNDED BASICALLY, UM, BY 160 FEET POTENTIAL WITH THE DENSITY BONUS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE CONSISTENT WITH THE BIG TRACK SO THAT WE CAN PLAN AND PROGRAM THE WHOLE THING WITH THAT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. SURE. THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. IT MUST BE TO KEEP TALKING THE WHOLE TIME, BUT I FIGURED Y'ALL ARE TIRED. OKAY. THANK YOU. [02:40:01] ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO Q AND A ON THIS, AND I'M GOING TO LET, UH, GOODNESS, UH, COMMISSIONER PRACTICES SPEAK FIRST SINCE I THINK YOU WERE THE ONE THAT PULLED THE ITEM. SURE. THANK YOU. UM, SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. SUTTLE, IS, DOES THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER THERE HINGE ON THE APPROVAL OF THIS, THE REZONING OF THIS PARCEL? NO, WE WOULD. IT WOULD, WE WOULD REDEVELOP ANYWAY. IT'S JUST THAT, THAT ONE LITTLE NOTCH OUT MAKES IT EASIER TO PLAN AND PROGRAM THE WHOLE THING. OKAY. AND, UM, WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT WHAT IS PLANNED FOR THIS SHOPPING CENTER? UM, JUST IN, IN LANGUAGE THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON MIGHT UNDERSTAND, WE PLAN TO HAVE A MIX OF, OF, OF USES INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND RETAIL, AND IT'S JUST WITH A 10 ACRE TRACK. IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER TO MIX THE USES AND HAVE THEM PLANNED OUT, UM, IN A COHESIVE, COHESIVE MANNER. AND THIS ONE LITTLE CORNER PIECE, SINCE WE OWN IT NOW, IT WOULD JUST BE BASICALLY LIMITED TO 60 FEET OR 65 WITH BONUS, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO INCLUDE IT IN THE LARGER TRACK. OKAY. AND WHAT KIND OF AFFORDABILITY DO YOU ENVISION INCLUDING THERE AND AS, AS SPECIFIC AS YOU CAN GET WOULD BE GREAT. OH, WELL THEN LET ME PULL OUT THE ERC REQUIREMENTS. CAUSE WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD FOLLOW THE ERC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE AFFORDABILITY DEPENDING ON HOW THE PROGRAMMING AND THE ARCHITECTURE WENT. UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO, I'VE GOT A COPY OF THE ERC. I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS ONE OR NOT, BUT I COULD PULL IT OUT, IS ABLE TO RESPOND PERFECTLY. PROBABLY NOT. LET ME, LET ME GRAB THE CODE RIGHT QUICK AND SEE IF I CAN FIND IT REALLY FAST AND WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT, UM, I DO HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER. SO I'M WONDERING IF THE PLANS WILL INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY CARE OB GYN SITE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER, WILL, WILL IT CONTINUE TO BE THERE OR WILL NOT BE FORCED TO MOVE? UH, UM, WELL DURING CONSTRUCTION IT'LL OF COURSE BEFORE TO MOVE AND I CAN'T COMMIT TO WHETHER IT'LL BE RE TINTED OR NOT, THE, THE LEASE WILL BE HONORED, BUT, UM, IT'D BE DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THAT FOR SURE. IT'D BE STILL BE THERE. OKAY. SO VERY UNFORTUNATE TO HEAR. UM, AND THEN HAS THERE BEEN ANY KIND OF MEETING WITH RESIDENTS IN THE RIVERSIDE AREA THUS FAR, SPECIFICALLY RENTERS OR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS WOULD BE AT THIS SITE? NO, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL SITE. WE'VE, THERE'S NO RESIDENCE, UH, BEING UNHOUSED AND NOBODY BEING DISPLACED. IT'S LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IT'S IT'S THE POPEYE'S, IT'S THE POPEYE'S CHICKEN PAD. IT'S ABOUT A HALF ACRE AND THAT'S, THAT'S IT, I'M NOT JUST REFERRING TO THE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE SHOPPING CENTER WHERE, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO FOLKS GO THERE, LIVE THERE, SPEND THEIR DAYS, GOING TO COMMUNITY CARE, GETTING MEDICAL CARE AND SUCH. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF FOLKS WHO CURRENTLY, UM, USE THIS AREA IS, ARE THERE PLANS TO MEET WITH THEM TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE? OKAY. OF COURSE. UM, EH, IN ANY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THE, THE MARKET IS TESTED THE, THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND THERE WILL BE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. RIGHT, RIGHT. I JUST HOPE THOSE MEETINGS INCLUDE RENTERS AND PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT USE THAT SHOPPING CENTER. BUT I THINK, DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO MY PREVIOUS QUESTION? SO UNDER THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS THERE, THERE'S, IT'S DIFFERENT FOR OWNER AND RENTAL, BUT IT'S FOR 40 YEARS, UM, YOU HAVE 60% MFI AND I'M LOOKING HERE AT THE PERCENTAGE IN ARTICLE SEVEN, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE IT IS? IS IT 10%, 20, 25% AT 60% MFI FOR THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM THAT'S ON, ON RENTAL, RIGHT? SAME ON. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THAT'S ALL FROM ME, I THINK. OKAY. THANKS. UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS OR CAN WE MOVE THIS ONE FORWARD? MR. COPS, GO AHEAD. UM, YEAH. YEAH. SO, UH, I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, IS THE FIRST TIME I'M LOOKING AT THIS RIVERSIDE MAP FOR DENSITY BONUS, AND I'M JUST REALLY CURIOUS IF YOU COULD GIVE JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND [02:45:01] OF HOW THIS MAP WAS PUT TOGETHER, BECAUSE IS THIS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, OR LIKE HOW, WHAT DICTATED THE CHANGES IN PURPLE SHADES RELATED TO PARTICIPATION IN THE DENSITY BONUS? I KNOW THAT THE PLAN WAS CREATED OF IT AFTER 2010. I DO NOT KNOW HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW SOME OF THE PROPERTIES ARE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE DARKER PINK AND SOME OF THEM ARE THE LIGHTER PINK. I, I SUPPOSE THAT THE AREAS THAT ARE THE, THAT ARE MORE PURPLE, THE DARKER PURPLE OR THE DARKER, DARKER PINK WERE SELECTED BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE AND ABILITY TO REDEVELOP THIS ONE IS UNDER, IT IS UNDER A DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP AND IS, IS SMALLER IN SIZE. BUT I, I, THAT'S JUST A GUESS ON MY PART. OKAY. CAUSE YEAH, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S LIKE TWO TRACKS DOWN. THERE'S SOME PARCELS ON RIVERSIDE THAT ARE INELIGIBLE OR THE DEVELOPMENT BONUS, BUT THEN IT KIND OF STEPS UP. SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS SO THAT WE COULD MAKE A MORE INFORMED, INFORMED DECISION. BUT, UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT QUITE, I'M NOT QUITE CLEAR EITHER. I SUPPOSE THAT ALSO, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSECTION OF PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD ALSO PLAYED A, PLAYED A PART BECAUSE THE, UH, CO THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THE DARKER PURPLE ARE TO ME LOCATED, UH, IN PROXIMITY TO THAT INTERSECTION. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I'M THINKING. RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS, UH, OF EMOTION, RIGHT. CAUSE I ALREADY HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. OKAY. SURE. COMMISSIONER, YOU GOTTA SPLIT UP IT JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP TO MR. SUTTLE OR JUST REGARDING THE, THE COMMERCIAL AREA. UM, I KNOW COMMISSIONER PRAXIS HAD SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED ABOUT THE CLINIC, BUT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT SOME OF THE RETAIL, UM, ESTABLISHMENT. ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO KEEP ANY OF THE RETAIL OR IS THAT COMPLETELY JUST, I'M THINKING OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THAT AREA AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR ALONG. MY CLIENT HAS TOLD ME, BUT NORMALLY WHEN YOU DO A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE, YOU, YOU, YOU START OVER, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER RIGHT NOW? I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU KNOW SAMMY NOW? W WE, WE DON'T, WE'D BE MAKING IT UP. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. I'M TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF THE LIVE WORK RATIO THAT IS THERE RIGHT NOW. UM, SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. I REALLY DON'T. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER ANDERSON MOVE APPROVAL STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THE SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDS. YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? SURE. JUST LOOKING AT THIS SITE. UM, IT'S A SITE, IT'S A CHICKEN, IT'S A POPEYE'S CHICKEN WITH, IT'S A, DRIVE-THROUGH ON PROBABLY THE BEST TRANSIT ROUTE IN ALL OF AUSTIN OUTSIDE OF MAYBE THE ORANGE LINE THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO VALUE TRANSIT, SUPPORTIVE DENSITY AND HOUSING, AND A BIGGER DENSITY BONUS THAT COMES WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF WHAT IS MAJORITY SURFACE PARKING ALL AROUND THIS. THIS IS A GIGANTIC SURFACE PARKING LOT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN WAS CREATED WAS TO SUPPORT DENSITY AND GET HOUSING AND ALLOW THIS TO BE REDEVELOPED IN A WAY THAT WAS MORE THOUGHTFUL THAN WAS THERE TODAY. AND THERE ARE SOME USES HERE THAT I'VE ALSO ENJOYED FOR MANY YEARS, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS GETTING REDEVELOPED. AND SO THIS IS JUST GOING TO MAKE IT MORE THOUGHTFUL REDEVELOPMENT AND NOT HAVE THIS ONE CORNER BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION HELD AT 65 FEET WITH EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ONE 60 NEXT TO IT. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE'D WANT TO VALUE TRANSIT OVER A DRIVE THROUGH. ALL RIGHT. AND HE'S A COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST COMMISSIONER PRACTICES. YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE I KNOW HOW THIS VOTE IS GOING TO TURN OUT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE A BIT ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHY I'M VOTING AGAINST. SO, UM, I MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY CARE CLINIC, WHICH IS SOMEWHERE THAT I HAVE BROUGHT ON HOUSING MEMBERS OF MINE TO, TO GET CARE. UM, AND IF COMMUNITY-BASED EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT WAS REALLY SOMETHING THAT EXISTED IN THIS AREA. UM, THEN [02:50:01] WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. SO THERE'S UNHOUSED RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA THAT ARE CURRENTLY CALLING FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THEM, LIKE LITERALLY IN A WHOLE, NOT THAT SPECIFIC SHOPPING CENTER, BUT THIS WHOLE AREA, THAT'S A BUNCH OF SHOPPING CENTERS. UM, THERE'S NOWHERE TO REST, TO USE THE INTERNET, TO DISCUSS THEIR NEEDS, NO HUB TO ACCESS RESOURCES AND SERVICES. PEOPLE IN THE AREA ALSO NEED GOOD PAYING JOBS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. AND THOSE ARE, I'M TALKING ABOUT FOLKS THAT ARE 40%, 40% MFI AND LOWER. UM, SO THIS IS PART OF GENTRIFICATION. WHEN WE PUSH OUT SERVICES THAT WORKING CLASS PEOPLE NEED, UM, WE'LL PUSH UP RENTS IN THE AREA, AN AREA THAT I LIVE IN, WHERE MY RENT WAS JUST INCREASED $200. UM, AND IF IT LOOKS ANYTHING LIKE WHAT'S DOWN THE STREET STREET IN THE SOUTH SHORE AREA, UM, WE'LL BE EXCLUSIONARY TO POOR BLACK AND BROWN FOLKS WHO CURRENTLY SPEND THEIR TIME AT THE SHOPPING CENTER. UM, BUT WE'LL GO FROM A PLACE WHERE POOR BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE MOVE AROUND AND EVEN UNHOUSED PEOPLE LIVE AND SOMETIMES SPEND THEIR NIGHTS. TWO CLICKS WERE WEALTHY, MOSTLY WHITE NEWCOMERS, ENJOY SERVICES AND MORE EXPENSIVE HOUSING. SO THIS ENCROACHMENT OF REDEVELOPMENT ON AREAS WHERE CURRENTLY BLACK, BROWN IMMIGRANT AND WORKING CLASS PEOPLE LIVE AND WILL NO LONGER BE, UM, YOU KNOW, IS, IS A MAJOR ISSUE. THIS IS ABOUT SPACE, UM, AND MOVING SPACE FROM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO ARE WORKING CLASS AND POOR TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT. SO PEOPLE MAY THINK, UH, WHAT'S THE DEAL ABOUT A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT OR A SHOPPING CENTER WITH CHEAP, FAST FOOD. AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS. UM, THESE ARE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS WHERE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE ARE NEIGHBORS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, SOMETIMES SLEEP UNDER THE AWNINGS OF, I KNOW WORKERS AT THIS RE THESE RESTAURANTS. UM, SOME OF WHOM WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL MOVEMENT TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE, TO SHIFT $15, UM, WHICH WAS CONSIDERED RADICAL BACK THEN. UM, THE WORKERS, I KNOW AS AN IMMIGRANT MOTHER WHO BRAVELY CAME CARE TO SEND MONEY HOME TO HER HUSBAND WHO WAS DIABETIC, SHE WAS UNABLE TO SEND THE MONEY BECAUSE THE RENT WAS TOO HIGH FOR HER TO AFFORD. AND HE DIED BEFORE SHE COULD SAVE UP ENOUGH MONEY TO SEND FOR HIS MEDICATION. SO WHAT HAPPENED TO HER JOB AT THAT? POPEYE'S WHICH NOW ALLOWS HER TO SEND MONEY, TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON FOR HER CHILDREN WITHOUT A FATHER IN CENTRAL AMERICA. OKAY. COMMISSIONER PRACTICES. WE, WE GOT TO KEEP GOING. I'M SORRY. IT'S A, I JUST WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE FACILITATING VIOLENCE. YEAH. WHEN YOU CAN'T HEAR THE BUDS OR MAYBE ON YOUR END, WE HEAR IT OVER HERE AND, YEAH. SORRY. I'VE GOT TO CUT YOU GUYS OFF TO KEEP US GOING. SORRY. UM, SO, UH, JUST REAL POINT OF CLARIFICATION. JUST, THIS IS ONLY ABOUT THAT ONE PROPERTY. WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE WHOLE. OKAY. I'M JUST, I'M JUST GETTING YOUR STAFF TO CONFIRM THAT IT'S JUST THAT ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, ALL RIGHT. SO ANY, UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO SPEAK, UH, FOR THIS MOTION AND KNOW WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST? ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO. THE, UH, THIS IS I'M GOING TO GO AND READ. UH, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED, IT'S PRETTY LENGTHY, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION. JUST SO IT'S READ INTO THE RECORD. UH, YOU GUYS WILL, UM, GIVE ME A MOMENT HERE. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR, ERC DISTRICT ZONING BY AMENDING FIGURE ONE DASH EIGHT, WHICH IS THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR DEVELOPMENT BONUS HEIGHT MAP TO ALLOW FOR A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 160 FEET THROUGH PARTICIPATION IN THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. THAT IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ABOUT GETTING READY TO HEAR TO VOTE ON. SO I'LL TAKE FIRST FROM THE DIOCESE. UH, THIS IS THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, UH, TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, THREE IN FAVOR, THOSE ON THE, UM, VIRTUALLY THOSE IN FAVOR. I'VE GOT THREE AND, OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT SIX IN FAVOR AND I SEE TWO, UH, COMMISSIONER YAMAS PLAY-DOH AND COMMISSIONER, UM, PRACTICES VOTING AGAINST. SO WITH THE SHORT NUMBERS WE HAVE HERE THIS EVENING, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ITEM FAILS. UM, AND IT'S REALLY, I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN DO AT THIS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, SO I GUESS, UH, WE'LL MOVE THIS TO, DOES THIS GO TO COUNCIL CHECK YOUR MISSION LIAISON. I READ THE ITEM, WHAT WE REPORTED TO COUNCIL WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. SO THAT WAS 6 0 2 0 6 2 0. THANK YOU. MA'AM SURE I DON'T SPEAK OFTEN, BUT THIS IS ALSO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I LITERALLY LIVE FOUR BLOCKS AWAY AND I WAS JUST PRICED OUT OF MY DUPLEX. SO I UNDERSTAND [02:55:01] WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. HAVING SAID THAT AS YOUR EX OFFICIO, I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST SPITEFULLY VOTING JUST TO STOP DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS, THIS POPEYE'S WAS NOT THE BEST POPEYE'S IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND IT'S GOING TO GET DEMOLISHED ANYWAYS. WE SHOULD AT LEAST TRY TO PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT SUPPORTS AND ENHANCES THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEING BUILT AROUND IT. OTHERWISE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A 60 FOOT PIECE AND 160 EVERYWHERE ELSE. SO I UNDERSTAND THIS IS HARD AND REALLY, REALLY PAINFUL, BUT I WOULD ADVISE MAYBE RECONSIDERING YOUR NO VOTES CHAIR. WE JUST HAD A, ANOTHER COMMISSIONER DOING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO RETAKE THAT BOAT WITH OR ASK FOR THE VOTE OF COMMISSIONERS ARE, UH, A RECONSIDERATION WOULD TAKE SOMEBODY THAT VOTED AGAINST I VOTED FOR IT. AND THAT WAS THE PREDOMINANT THERE, THERE WASN'T THERE WASN'T A, OH, UH, HELP ME OUT HERE. WE DON'T HAVE PARLIAMENTARIAN COMMISSIONER. UH, THE RURAL SIERRA WE VOTED, I WOULD TAKE A RECONSIDERATION TO ROLL. IT. WE'D HAVE TO VOTE TO RECONSIDER OF THE MAJORITY. NO, I THINK IT'S SOMEBODY IN THE MINORITY THAT WISHES TO RECONSIDER THEIR VOTE HAS TO PUT IT OUT ON THE TABLE FOR US TO THEN VOTE ON. SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, UH, PLEASE CONFIRM THAT THAT'S CORRECT CHAIR TO PROMOTION, TO RECONSIDER. IT HAS TO BE INITIATED BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED AGAINST YOU CAN HOWEVER, OFFER A DIFFERENT MOTION, BUT MAYBE MINOR CHANGE TO I'M GOING TO STOP RECOMMENDATION. WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT FORTH ANOTHER, UM, YEAH, ANOTHER MOTION. UH, BUT JUST TO CLARIFICATION, THAT IS THE RULE IT'S. UM, ARE WE DOING A SIN OR RECONSIDER? THIS IS SURE. COMMISSIONER LIAISON ON. AND IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE ME A SECOND, I WANT TO, UM, UH, CONFIRM WHO'S THE PREVAILING SIDE IN ANY NON RECOMMENDATION BOAT YEAH, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING WE COULD DO OUTSIDE OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH ANY, I HAVEN'T HAD A MOTION SINCE THE FORMER MOTION FAILED AND THAT IS THAT WE MOVE STAFF APPROVAL. UM, AND THEN WE INCLUDE DIRECTION THAT THIS GO ON THE FIRST AVAILABLE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S QUITE A PAGE. THAT'S NOT, YEAH, THAT'S NOT A THING. GIVE US ONE MOMENT. WE'RE GOING TO CHECK OUR, UH, SO THIS WOULD BE, I'M TRYING TO GET MY ATTENTION OR RE RECONSIDERATION CHECK COMMISSION. WHAT IS THE UNIVERSE? SO IT WOULD BE THE MEMBERS WHO VOTED AGAINST THE MOTION WOULD BE THE PREVAILING. AND SO A MEMBER OF HOW DID THAT GROUP WOULD HAVE TO BRING FORWARD. RIGHT. SO, UM, AFTER THE COMPELLING, UH, MESSAGE HERE FROM HER EX-OFFICIO, UM, DO ANY OF THE, THE NO VOTES WANT TO, UH, HAVE A SMOKE FOR RECONSIDERING THIS AT ALL? THAT WOULD BE COMMISSIONING AND AS POLICE COMMISSIONER PRACTICES. SURE. COMMISSIONER LEANS ON HIM IF WE COULD, UM, REST AT EASE OR JUST A SECOND, SO I CAN GET CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING. OKAY. JERRY. I JUST, I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE. I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING TO STEP AWAY. I'M TECHNICALLY ON VACATION WITH FAMILY. UM, AND I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO JUGGLE FAMILY VERSUS WORK COMMITMENTS. SO I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE WHO'S STEPPING UP. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HELPING US EARLIER. IT'S IT DOES HELP OUT WHEN WE HAVE MORE NUMBERS. I APPRECIATE IT. AND JUST GIVE US A MOMENT HERE. WE'RE JUST CHECKING THE RULES ON HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THIS ITEM. [03:00:24] CHAIR. YES. UM, I HAVE THE FISHER QUESTION, UH, FOR ANYONE WHO'S PASSIONATE ABOUT TRYING TO GET THIS PAST SENSE. THERE IS NO EMOTION THAT HAS, HAS BEEN PROVED THAT SOMEONE NOT MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A NEW BOAT. UM, IS THERE A APPLICANT, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A NEED TO GET THIS TO COUNCIL OR, UH, I'D HATE TO DO THAT TO YOU? CAUSE IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE ONE OF THE TWO TO MAKE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER. OH, OKAY. SO IT'S, WE'RE STILL AT NOT, UH, COMMISSIONER IS, I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING. AND IF IT GETS, IF IT GETS A, WHAT IS IT, SEVEN BOATS. UM, THEN WE WOULD TAKE IT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING AGAIN, UM, SHARE, OH, I KNOW WE'RE WAITING ON THE SERVER AND UNLESS YOU'VE DONE SOME IN OTHER PLACES, I KNOW THAT I, YOU KNOW, JUST LET'S SAY LOOKING AT OUR CASE FILE TODAY AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT IT. THEY WOULD'VE BEEN BACKED UP FOR MONTHS AT THIS POINT. I'M GOING TO MAKE IN MOTION. UM, AND LET'S SEE IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WOULD GO WITH IT. I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT SHALL BE 159 AND A HALF FEET. AND IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ALLOWABLE MARGIN. UM, OKAY. UM, UM, I WOULD NEED STAFF TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE THERE'S A MAP THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PULL IT INTO CERTAIN HEIGHT LEVELS THAT ARE MATCHING OTHER APPROVED HEIGHTS. SO I'M NOT SURE I LIKE THE, I LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS THERE, BUT I'M JUST AFRAID THAT IT'S GOING TO RUN A FOUL OF THE ERC, THE PLAN. AND WE'RE TRYING TO PULL THIS INTO AN EXISTING MAP AND THAT WE'RE CREATING A HEIGHT THAT DOESN'T FIT INTO THAT COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. YES. DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT QUESTION? UH, YEAH. SO I'M JUST FEELING A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THIS. UM, WE, UH, WE HAD A VOTE FAIR AND SQUARE. I, YOU KNOW, I DID NOT AGREE WITH, UH, OPPOSITION. NEVERTHELESS, THAT'S THE WAY IT WENT DOWN AND WE'RE NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. IT'S UNFORTUNATE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I WENT DOWN. SO, UH, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD A FAIR STRAIGHT OUT AND VOTE. UM, SO THE APPLICANT KNOWS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CAN TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND JUST DEAL WITH AS A COUNCIL. AND THEN CAN WE JUST MOVE ON? YEAH. AND COMMISSIONER, UH, I'M SORRY. MR. RIVERA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU WERE GOING TO DO, BUT I, I AM, UM, I'M LISTENING TO COMMITTED SCHNEIDER AND I AGREE WITH THEM. WE GOT A LOT OF CASES HERE AND THIS IS TAKING TOO MUCH TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MOVE IT FORWARD. IS IT DIDN'T PASS AND COUNCIL WILL GET THEIR CHANCE. CHECK YOUR MACHINE. WASN'T ANDREW. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. I'LL BE NOTED AS A NON RECOMMENDATION COUNSEL ON. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS ONE FORWARD TO ME AND TAKE IT THE NEXT DISCUSSION CASE COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, HEATHER [B12. Rezoning: C14-2022-0009 - Fifty First Street Residences; District 1] CHAFFIN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON ZONING CASE C 14 20 22 0 0 0 9. UH, 51ST STREET RESIDENCES, UH, REQUESTING ZONING FROM C S M U C O N P T C S M U V N P. IT'S A FOUR ACRE SITE AT 55 25 EAST 50. FIRST STAFF IS NOT SUPPORTING THE REQUEST TO C S M U V N P. UH, IN THE ISSUE SECTION, I WILL NOTE THAT IF THE V ZONING IS GRANTED STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS ON THE PROPERTY BE RETAINED. THE FOLLOWING USES ARE CURRENTLY PROHIBITED ON A PROPERTY DRIVE IN SERVICE AS AN ACCESSORY TO ANY COMMERCIAL USE AUTOMOTIVE RENTALS, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, SERVICE, AUTOMOTIVE SALES, AUTOMOTIVE, WASHING OF ANY TYPE SERVICE STATION AND PAWN SHOP SERVICES. I AM NOT CERTAIN, BUT I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, UH, SUPPORTS THAT. AND SHE CAN CONFIRM, UH, LATER THE PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE [03:05:01] OF EAST 51ST STREET, APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET WEST OF AT BLUESKIN FURNITURE ROAD, IT'S UNDEVELOPED AND HEAVILY VEGETATED. THE PROPERTY HAS THE PROHIBITED LAND USES. I JUST READ IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST AND SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY IS AN S F FOR A N P NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH TRIGGERS COMPATIBILITY ON THOSE SIDES IMMEDIATELY EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS, UH, TRACKED ZONED S C S C O N P. AND THAT IS THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED 180 3 50 FIRST STREET TRAILHEAD FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO BICYCLE AND, UH, WALK ONTO THE WALNUT CREEK GREENBELT. IT CONNECTS PROPERTIES TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, UH, INCLUDING THE EAST COMMUNITIES, Y YMCA ALSO EAST AND SOUTHEAST OF THE PROPERTY ARE COMMERCIAL TRACKS THAT FRONT THE SOUTHBOUND AT BLUESTONE FRONTAGE ROAD WITH A MIX OF L I C O C S AND C S C O A USES OR ZONING CATEGORIES WITH AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR AND DEVELOPED AND PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL, A CHARTER SCHOOL LAND USES, UH, TO THE NORTH ACROSS EAST 50. FIRST STREET IS THE LITTLE WALNUT CREEK GREENBELT, WHICH IS ON P AND P AND A HOTEL MOTEL PROPERTY ZONE, G R N E. STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE REQUEST TO C S M U V N P. THE CLOSEST BUS SERVICE IS ONE MILE AWAY AT 51ST AND SPRINGDALE ROAD. THERE IS NO BEST SERVICE DOWN. UH, THE 180 3, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. THE SIDEWALKS ARE KIND OF INTER INTERMITTENT, UH, AND DO NOT CONVEYED IN, UH, UH, ALL THE WAY TO THE CLOSEST BEST STOPS. COMMERCIAL ARE VERY LIMITED IN THE AREA. SO DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE LARGELY AUTOMOBILE ORIENTED. UH, UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, THEY COULD GET A 20% PARKING REDUCTION WITH VMU. THE PROPERTY COULD GET A 40% REDUCTION, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR AREAS WHERE TRANSIT AND OTHER TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE. WE SUPPORT THE EXISTING ZONING. UM, IT WAS DEPARTMENT, IT WAS DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS. IT DOWNSIZED TO THE SPEAKING ENGLISH DOWN'S ZONE TO THE PROPERTY FROM L I AND ADDED THOSE, UH, ADDED THE M U OPTION AS WELL. THE PROHIBITED LAND USES ALSO WERE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS. SO PRIMARILY THE LACK OF TRANSIT OPTIONS IN THE AREA, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. AND SOME OTHER SPEAKERS, I BELIEVE. THANK YOU, CHERYL. AND I HEAR FROM THE HEALTH, BUT THIS HOUSE GLASGOW, MS. GLASGOW YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, ALICE GLASGOW REPRESENTING THE PROSPECTIVE DEVELOPER LEDGED ON DEVELOPMENT ON THIS ITEM. NUMBER 12. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE SITE IS LOCATED ON EAST 51ST STREET, JUST WEST OF, UH, UH, ADD BLUES TEAM. THE PROPERTIES TO THE, UH, TO, TO THE EAST OF US ARE, UM, COMMERCIAL USES THE, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF US IS A SINGLE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION. NAMELY THE SENATE HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD WE'VE MET WITH THE SENATE HILL, UH, RESIDENTS. WE MET AT A CUL-DE-SAC RIGHT BEHIND, UH, A SITE TO JUST WALK THE SITE AND TO SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES EXIST REGARDING, UM, PROTECTION OF TREES, ET CETERA. AND, UH, THE DETENTION POND THAT EXISTS THERE. SEE HOW THAT ERA CAN BE, UH, UM, IMPROVED, IF ANY, NEXT SLIDE, THE SITE IS ZONED CSM, YOU SEE OUR NP AND, UM, WE ARE ASKING TO ADD VISA OWNING TO THE, UH, TO THE MEU BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH, UH, SIMILAR ZONING CASE THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED V ON SPRINGDALE ROAD, NORTH OF 51ST STREET, WHERE THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS AND THERE'S NO BUS SERVICE. NEXT SLIDE. SO UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, WE HAVE CSM AND P THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 60 FEET UNDER THE . THE V S HEIGHT IS THE SAME. THE, UH, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE MOU HAS AN OPTION OF HAVING MIXED USE OR COMMERCIAL TO DO MULTIFAMILY. WHAT MY CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO BUILD HERE. THE CURRENT ZONING OF MOU ALLOWS US TO HAVE 217 UNITS. THE, UM, THE DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE V ZONING WOULD ALLOW US TO GET TO 249 UNITS, AND 10% OF THOSE UNITS UNDER THE V WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE AFFORDABLE. UH, WHEN I PUT THIS TOGETHER, THIS IS BEFORE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE, IN THE CITY PROCESS FOR THE LAST FIVE MONTHS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THIS AREA. AND, UM, [03:10:01] UH, ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING SHORTLY IN SUPPORT AND SOMEONE ELSE ON THE PHONE, THE, UM, THE AFFORDABILITY LEVEL WILL BE AT WHAT YOU, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE VI, TO BRING IT DOWN TO 60% MFI. SO WE WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH THE MFI LEVEL THAT COUNCIL ENDS UP ADOPTING FOR THE V THE, UH, THIS IS, UM, EAST 51ST STREET UNDER IMAGINE AUSTIN, IT'S AN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR, AND YOU UNDER ACTIVITY CORRIDORS, YOU RECOMMEND VISA ZONING IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR A MIX OF USES. AND, UM, UNDER THE EAST MLK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, THE VISION IS TO ALLOW MIXED ABUSES. AND, UH, THE V HERE WOULD REQUIRE COMMERCIAL USES. IN ADDITION TO RESIDENTIAL USES, THE MOU DOES NOT, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PREFERS THE V BECAUSE WE CAN ASSURE THEM COMMERCIAL USES WILL GO HERE. NEXT SLIDE. SO WE ARE SUBJECT TO COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. THIS IS WHAT WE CALL OUR CONSTRAINTS MAP. AND OUR CONSTRAINTS MAP SHOWS YOU THE, THE BAND OF COMPATIBILITY, THE STEP BACKS THAT APPLY IN THE NO BUILD ZONE, THAT'S HEIGHT, SETBACKS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN SHOWS YOU THE, UH, THE SITE SIDEWALKS. CURRENTLY, YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE, THE GREEN, THE SIDEWALKS, AND THERE, WE CAN EXTEND OUR SIDEWALK ALL THROUGH OUR SITE, TO THE SOUTH, WHERE THE SHOWS IMPERVIOUS COVER. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A PATH THAT IS USED. THERE, IT'S A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY. IT'S A PATH THAT THE, THE RESIDENTS USE IT'S OVER AN EXISTING GAS LINE. IT'S A 30 FOOT WIDE GAS LINE. THE NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT WE MIGHT FENCE OFF THEIR PATH, BUT WE CAN'T. SO THAT PATHWAY WILL CONTINUE NEXT. SO I REACHED OUT TO CAPITAL METRO ON THE CASE THAT I HAD ON SPRINGDALE ROAD A YEAR AGO, THAT YOU RECOMMENDED VI TO ASK THEM IF THERE WERE SERVICE, BEST SERVICE CONTEMPLATING THE FUTURE. THEY SENT ME THIS MAP TO LET ME KNOW THAT, UM, UH, IN THIS AREA, UH, DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH ROOFTOPS. THE MORE HOUSING THAT IS BUILT HERE, THE SOONER THEY WILL BRING BUSES. HOWEVER, IN THE MEANTIME, ON DEMAND, YOU CAN CALL CAPITAL METRO WITHIN THE AREA THAT HE SHARED IT IN YELLOW. AND OUR SITE IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE SENATE HILLS, WHERE THE PICKUP AREA ON DEMAND, YOU CAN CALL CAPTAIN METRO, WE'LL COME PICK YOU UP AND THEY'LL TAKE YOU WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO. SO UP REGARDING SERVICE FOR, UH, BUSES, THIS IS WHERE IT'S LOCATED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF VMU ZONING ON EAST 51ST STREET. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE V IS ALL ON 51ST STREET. THAT'S, UM, UH, CLOSER TO, UM, WHERE THE MILLER OF DEVELOPMENT IS. NEXT SLIDE, MORE PRECEDENTS FOR VISA ZONING ON EAST 51ST STREET. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. MORE EXAMPLES OF REZONING ON EAST 51ST STREET. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE CASE THAT YOU APPROVED A YEAR AGO. AND COUNCIL DID WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I'LL BE TWO NORTH OF EAST 51ST STREET. THERE IS NO BUS SERVICE, AND THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, BUT YOU GRANTED THE VISA. AND I WAS THE APPLICANT ON THIS CASE THAT YOU APPROVED A YEAR AGO, THE CASE MANAGER WAS MICHELEN AND STAFF RECOMMENDED VISA OWNING HERE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND I'LL GO THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY. THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS A PROPOSED ROADWAY EXTENSION FROM TANNAHILL NORTH TO 180 3, THE RIGHT OF WAY, CONTEMPLATED IS 78 FEET. WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IT, THE FUTURE ROAD WOULD EXTEND INTO THE SENATE HILL DETENTION POND AND A PORTION OF OUR SITE WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE AURA. THE PINK AREA IS THE PATH THAT RESIDENTS USED TO WALK CURRENTLY. AND THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO REMAIN AS A PATHWAY AND NOT A ROADWAY. SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION STAFF, BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS A GAS LINE IN THE AREA, AND THEY WERE NOT AWARE THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE USING IT AS A PATHWAY. AND THAT THERE WAS A DETENTION POND LOCATED, RIGHT, WHERE YOU SEE ON THIS PLAN IN THE AREA WHERE THAT BLUE LINE IS REFLECTED SHOWING WHERE THE FUTURE RIGHT. OF WHERE WE'D GO, IF A ROADBLOCK STANDARD, I CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. AND I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM NARDIA. BARBEAU FOLLOWED BY HANNAH RYMER. I SPARE PROBABLY YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. MS. HANNAH RUNNER. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HELLO, COMMISSIONERS. UM, MY NAME IS NADIA BARBEAU. UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ITEM 12, UM, AT 55, 25 EAST 51ST STREET. I'M THE SECRETARY OF THE PECAN SPRINGS SPRINGDALE HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, I WANTED TO KIND OF CONFIRM A LOT OF WHAT ALICE TOLD YOU. UM, WE HAVE MET WITH, UM, HER AND, UM, THE APPLICANT'S TEAM, UM, WITH THE PSS CNA WITH THE SENATE HILLS HOA MEMBERS AND BOARD MEMBERS. UM, MULTIPLE TIMES SINCE JANUARY. [03:15:01] UM, WE DID HAVE TWO VOTES IN FAVOR OF THIS, UM, REZONING, UM, ONE ON MARCH 12TH AND ONE IN MAY 14TH. UM, AND THE REASONS WERE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REALLY INCORPORATED, UM, ALMOST ALL OF OUR, UM, BIGGEST CONCERNS AS A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, OUR PRIORITIES ARE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL AND SHOPS THAT HAVE KIND OF COMMUNITY SPACE OR GATHERING SPACES OF SOME KIND. UM, AND AS, UM, EXPLAINED, UM, THE CURRENT ZONING, UM, ISN'T LIKELY TO PROVIDE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED. UM, IT DOESN'T, UH, THIS DOESN'T DISRUPT ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S KIND OF NEXT DOOR TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND IT'LL, UH, THE V ALLOWS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, AS WELL, UM, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO OUR, UM, THE, THERE HAS BEEN AN ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTION, BUT BEYOND THE REQUIREMENT FROM CODE TO, AS A GESTURE OF GOODWILL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, TO THE LITTLE WALNUT CREEK GREENBELT, UM, MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH IS, UM, BASICALLY JUST LOOKS LIKE ABANDONED LAND, BUT ACTUALLY IS A CITY OF AUSTIN PARK, UM, WHICH WE HAVE EXPRESSED A CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL, UM, THERE, AND THEY'VE AGREED, UM, AS SHE SAID, THE NATIONAL, UH, THE NATURAL GAS LINE EASEMENT IS CURRENTLY ALL USED BY EVERYONE TO WALK BETWEEN MLK AND, UM, 51ST. AND THEY'RE IN SUPPORT TO CAN MAKE SMALL CHANGES TO MAKE THAT, UM, CONTINUE. UM, AND, UM, YEAH, AND JUST IN GENERAL, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION WITH THIS APPLICANT AND GETTING THESE COMMITMENTS, UM, INTO PROBABLY A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OR SOMETHING. UM, AND, UM, WE'RE, UH, GRATEFUL THAT ESPECIALLY THE RETAIL, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES IS ABLE TO HAPPEN, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S VERY LITTLE RETAIL, UM, OPTIONS IN THIS AREA. UM, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM HIS HENNA RHYMER, MR. MURRAY. I HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S HANNAH. RIEMER ON THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT. UM, I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE. SHOULD ANY QUESTIONS COME UP THAT I NEED TO WEIGH IN ON? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HERE, NO, HERE FROM MR. SCOTT PETERS, MR. PETERS, I HAVE YOU ON THE TELECONFERENCE SELECT STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH ARAMARK'S. AH, YES, I LIVE IN SENATE BILLS. UM, I'M IN FROM GHANA VERBAL FEEDBACK. I'M IN APRIL OF THIS ZONING CHANGE, BUT AS PROJECT AT 5 5, 2, 5 EAST IT'S FIRST, UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS SUPPORTED, CONTRIBUTED TO THE NON-BILL NON VEHICLE TO THE, TO THE NEARBY NEARBY HOOD USING THE EXISTING NATURAL GAS LINE EASTMAN. AND THAT WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTS IN MLK AND 51ST STREET. AND ALSO I THINK THE BUS STOPS AROUND A QUARTER OF A MILE. IT'S NOT A MILE. UH, SO LOOK INTO THAT AND, UM, WHEN I'M DONE WITH IT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. CRAIG ALTER. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I'M CRAIG ALTER WITH LEGEND OWNED DEVELOPMENT GROUP, A THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. AND I'M HERE JUST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FOR THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. COULD YOU, COULD YOU PLEASE PULL UP MY SLIDE? MY LAST SLIDE, WELL, COMMISSIONERS WAS GOING TO JUST MY THREE MINUTES TO, UH, TO SHOW YOU THE, UH, TO THE LEFT OF YOUR SLIDE. YOU CAN SEE CAPITAL METRO BUS STOP. THIS IS THE ONE BUS STOPS THAT ARE, IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 0.6 MILES FROM OUR SITE. THERE IS A, ANOTHER BUS STOP ABOUT 0.5 MILES ON EAST MLK TO THE SOUTH THAT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST MLK. SO THE, UM, THE PA THE PATHWAY IS, AS I INDICATED, AND MS. NADIA POBOR SPOKE TO IS THE ONE IN PINK. AND, UH, THAT'S THE PATHWAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH. UM, THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE ASM P DESIGNATES THE BEST PATHWAY TO BE A 78 FOOT WIDE ROADWAY. AND, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ATD TO LOOK AT ACCOMMODATING A PATHWAY, UM, AS OPPOSED TO A ROAD. THE, UM, AGAIN, THERE IS, UM, A BUS STOP CLOSE BY CAPITOL. METRO WILL PICK UP FOLKS. SO THE IDEA THAT THERE IS NO BUS SERVICE HERE IS ADDRESSED [03:20:01] BY THE FACT THAT CAPITAL METRO HAS THE, UH, THE, UM, SYSTEM IN PLACE TO CALL IN ON DEMAND ON DEMAND PICKUP AS THEY CALL IT. SO I'LL, I'LL PAUSE HERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. AND, UM, I THANK YOU FOR YOU SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, ANY EMOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONER ANDERSON SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOWARD. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE DYESS, CLOSING THE HEARING, UH, THOSE ON THE SCREEN. ALL RIGHT. UH, THAT'S 8 0 0. OKAY. SO MOVING INTO QUESTIONS, UM, AND, UM, WE'LL KEEP THE FULL, UM, EIGHT AT FIVE, BUT IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT AND GET, BE VERY DIRECT WITH THE QUESTIONS, THAT'LL HELP SPEED THINGS ALONG WHO'S FIRST, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. SO JUST, CAN I UNDERSTAND, IS IT, IS THE, THE NON RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF BASICALLY ABOUT PARKING, OR IS IT ABOUT THE DENSITY OR BOTH? IT'S PRIMARILY RELATED TO, IT'S KIND OF AN ISOLATED PARCEL. IT'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL ON TWO SIDES, COMMERCIAL AND HIGHWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE, A VERY LARGE PARK, WHICH DOES ALLOW A BIKE AND PET CONNECTION. BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS SECTION OF 51ST, THE INFORMATION I WAS ABLE TO GET FROM OUR MAPPING SYSTEM WAS THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY, UH, WASN'T ANY BEST SERVICE IN THIS AREA UNTIL ABOUT MILE DOWN. SO THE FACT THAT IT WOULD BE IN A PROBABLY CAR DEPENDENT LOCATION AND HAVE THE OPTION TO REDUCE PARKING TO 40%. THOSE WERE SOME OF THE FACTORS. SO THERE WERE SEVERAL CITIES AROUND THE, AROUND THE NATION, BUFFALO, NEW YORK TO BASTROP, TEXAS THAT HAVE ELIMINATED PARKING REGULATIONS ALTOGETHER WOULD IF, IF PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED ELIMINATION OF ALL PARKING REGULATIONS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AS, AS BUFFALO AND BASTROP DONE, WOULD STAFF BE AGAINST THAT? THAT IS, DOES NOT COMPLY WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. I THINK THAT IS MORE OF A COUNCIL. UH, WE CAN'T REDUCE PARKING TO ZERO VIA THIS KIND OF ZONING CASE. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING LIKE A PUD OR, BUT, BUT I'M SAYING IT'S STAFF RECOMMENDATION AGAINST REMOVING PARKING WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, OR IS IT, I GUESS I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF, IF STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS REGARDING THIS SPECIFIC SITE, WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY COMMENTS ABOUT PARKING REGULATIONS, BUT YOU'RE AGAINST IT BECAUSE OF THE PARKING REGULATIONS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. I WAS SAYING THAT THIS AREA AT THIS SPECIFIC SITE DOES NOT HAVE VERY MANY TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS EXCEPT FOR AUTOMOBILE AND CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, UH, A PROP, A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS A 40%, UH, PARKING REDUCTION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN AN AREA WHERE A CAR IS, IS A VALUABLE, NO COMMENT ON CITY OR OTHER CITIES PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. UM, UH, COMMISSIONER COX, SINCE FOR THE APPLICANT, SORRY. SORRY. YES. SORRY. YEAH, NO, NO, YOU'RE FINE. UH, WHAT, I'M REALLY, WHAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN IS THE PROXIMITY OF THIS SITE TO THE A 180 3 TRAIL HAD THE, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT GOES ACROSS QUITE A LARGE, UM, COMPLEX YMCA. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT TRAIL THAT GOES DOWN, OR KIND OF NOT, NOT REALLY A TRAIL, BUT, BUT JUST KIND OF INFORMAL IMPROMPTU PATHWAY THAT GOES DOWN TO, UM, MLK JR BOULEVARD. WHAT, WHAT WOULD THIS DEVELOPMENT BE DOING? UH, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU FILL THAT PEDESTRIAN GAP BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK ON 51ST STREET AND THE TRAILHEAD, AND THEN WOULD YOU ALSO BE FACILITATING, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FORMAL, [03:25:01] LIKE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL OR SOMETHING THAT GOES DOWN TO MLK? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YOU HAVE, WHILE THE MEETINGS WE HAD WITH THE, UH, WITH THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH OF US, THE ONES THEY BROUGHT THERE, WHEN WE'VE HAD THE OFFERS, ZOOM MEETING, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT THE PATH, THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY TO OUR ATTENTION. UH, THIS IS BEFORE WE RECEIVED THE STAFF TRANSPORTATION COMMENTS, BECAUSE IT STAFF HAS BEEN BACKED UP. SO IT'S TAKEN AT LEAST FIVE MONTHS BEFORE WE GET, WE FINALLY GOT OUR COMMENTS. THAT'S WHEN WE LEARNED THAT THE AUSTIN ASAP IS PROPOSING A CONNECTION, A ROADWAY CONNECTION THROUGH FROM EAST MLK TANNAHILL THROUGH OUR SITE, INSTEAD OF W WE HAD HOPED WE COULD WORK TOWARDS A PEDESTRIAN OR FORMALIZING THE PEDESTRIAN WALK THAT IS THERE OVER THE GAS LINE, OBVIOUSLY WITH APPROVAL FROM THE GAS COMPANY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO REVIEW AND APPROVE A, PAVED A PATHWAY OVER THEIR GAS EASEMENT, BECAUSE IT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY FROM ONE EIGHT, AT LEAST FROM, UH, EAST 51ST STREET, DOWN SOUTH TOWARDS, UH, EAST MLK. SO, UH, WE ARE GOING TO WORK. YEAH, I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT HAPPENING BECAUSE THE MAJORITY, THE MAJORITY STRETCH IS OCCUPIED BY A MASSIVE WATER QUALITY POND. AND THEN A VERY LONG DETENTION CLIENT STAFF WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WHEN WE MET, WE, WE SWITCHED OUT TO ATD AND WE MET WITH, UH, WITH THE FOLKS WHO, UH, WHO WROTE THE COMMENTS AND THEY, THEY AGREED TO, THEY REALIZE THAT, WHOOPS, WE DID NOT KNOW THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO US WAS THAT WE SUBMIT A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN SO THEY CAN REVIEW AND EVALUATE THEIR ASM P RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A STRUCTURED POND FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE SENATE HILL FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPOSED CONNECTOR. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A DETENTION POND OR THE HOMES BEHIND US, UH, OF COURSE ON OUR SITE, IT'S UNDEVELOPED, BUT YOU DO HAVE ALSO THE GAS LINE. WE ASKED THEM IF THEY'VE TALKED WITH THIS COMPANY, SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT GETTING DENSITY ON THE, ON THE TRANSIT QUARTERS, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. I WOULD NORMALLY SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT STAFF WOULD HAVE, BUT I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY OPPORTUNITIES HERE BETWEEN 51ST MLK, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER THE TOLL ROAD AND THE YMCA FACILITY, ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS BEHIND YOU. UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY I'M INTERESTED IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT. SO I GUESS A MORE DIRECT QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE ABLE TO COMMIT TO MAYBE FUNDING OR CONTRIBUTING TO THE FUNDING OF SOME SORT OF HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, OBVIOUSLY PENDING APPROVAL OF THE CITY TO ACTUALLY FACILITATE ALL THAT CONNECTIVITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, WE, UM, PART OF THE MEAT, PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH STAFF HAS TO, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE, UM, THE, UH, THE USE OF, UH, THE STREET IMPACT FEE THAT IS GOING TO BECOME EFFECTIVE, UH, NEXT MONTH. AND, UH, THAT'S ANOTHER PATH WHERE THEY CAN, THEY'VE TALKED THAT CONDUCT, EXPLORE AND APPROACH THAT AS, UH, AN AVENUE TO HELP FUND. SHOULD THEY AGREE TO ALLOW THIS TO BE A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY? WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM AND USE OUR FUNDS TOWARDS THAT, THE TWO THAT IMPROVEMENT. OKAY. SO IF I HAVE TIME, ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, THE QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, UM, DO YOU KNOW IF, IF ON THE SIDEWALK PRIORITY, UM, LISTS THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE GOT, IF, IF ANY OF THESE GAPS AROUND 51ST AROUND THIS DEVELOPMENT HAVE A HIGH PRIORITY IN, ARE SLATED FOR ANY SORT OF FUNDING IN THE NEAR FUTURE? I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT OR THE SCHEDULE OF THE, UH, NORTH DALE CONNECTOR. OKAY. THAT IS ALL THEN. THANK YOU. RIGHT. UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? UM, I'VE GOT ONE THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK, BUT ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO GO FIRST? UM, JUST FOR STAFF, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO, UM, I I'D LIKE TO, I'M NOT A PLANNING EXPERT, UH, BUT WHEN I, I USE THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE, AND I SEE THIS IS AN IMAGINED AWESOME CORRIDOR. AND TO ME IT'S VERY SIMPLE CORRIDORS EQUAL VMU IT'S, I, IT JUST SEEMS, IT MAKES SENSE. I KNOW THE CARS, I'M TRYING TO GET WHAT STAFF'S THINKING. CAUSE THERE AREN'T SERVICES. NOW THAT IS AN EYE CORRIDOR. ISN'T THE VISION THAT ONE DAY THIS WOULD SUPPORT MORE TRANSIT. ISN'T THAT KIND OF THE LONGTERM GOAL WITH ESTABLISHING THESE CORRIDORS? I, I WASN'T INVOLVED IN, UM, A LOT OF THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PROCESS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE OFTEN SAY IT'S A, WHAT 40,000 FOOT VIEW OF, UH, OF SOME OF THE THINGS. AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOALS [03:30:01] AND THINGS THAT ARE DESIRED, BUT WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THIS ZONING CASE, I THINK WE WERE FOCUSED MORE ON THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS. UH, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION TONIGHT, I, THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME I'D HEARD IT ABOUT THE MORE EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH ATD AND THEN THE SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE SAME INFORMATION AT THE TIME OF REVIEWING THIS. OKAY. UM, SO I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT IS KIND OF IN OUR WHEELHOUSE TO LOOK AT LONG-TERM AND NOT JUST THE IMMEDIATE SITUATION ON THE GROUND TODAY. SO, UM, I'M GONNA, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS ONE. UH, OKAY. LET'S UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. LET'S UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, MOTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MOVE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. OKAY. IS THAT OH YEAH. APPLICANTS REQUEST. OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. I'M SORRY. I'M NOT, I THINK, OH, GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU WERE, I MEAN, ABLE TO KEEPING THE PROHIBITED USES, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO SUPPORT THOSE PROHIBITED USES YES. WITH THE LIST OF PROHIBITED. OKAY. SO APPLICANT REQUESTS WITH THE PROHIBITED USES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST ON THE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO, OKAY. AND YEAH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD, SECOND SIT. I'M SO COMMITTED TO THOMPSON. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? UM, I, I JUST WANT TO, AT SOME POINT IT IS KIND OF LIKE A CHICKEN AND EGG THING, YOU KNOW, DO WE BUILD IT WITH TWO STORY GARDEN APARTMENTS TO GET SOME POPULATION OUT THERE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD THEN TEAR THOSE DOWN TO BUILD BMU AT SOME POINT. I MEAN, THIS IS, IT IS THE PLAN. IT'S THE LONG RANGE PLAN, MY GUESS IS THAT THEY WON'T ACTUALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PARKING BECAUSE TOO MANY OF THE BMU BUILDINGS THAT WE SEE DON'T ACTUALLY TAKE THE PARKING REDUCTION. UM, SO I THINK THAT THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY BUILD FOR THE MARKET, WHAT SELLS FOR THE MARKET. WE WOULD GET SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, DENSITY BONUS HERE. UM, BUT WE'LL ALSO BE GETTING WHAT I HOPE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, GOOD DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ON A CORRIDOR. AND I THINK THAT'S AROUND A FUTURE CORRIDOR AND IT HAS GOT A GREAT CONNECTIVITY TO TRAILS AND BIKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST THE MOTION SPEAK TO IN FAVOR COMMISSIONER ANDERSON FOR QUICK? YEAH. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, BY RIGHT, THEY CAN BUILD 217 HOMES, ZERO AFFORDABLE, OR WITH THIS CHAIN, THEY CAN BUILD 249, 25 AFFORDABLE. SO IT'S A GOOD DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, AND THIS GETS US THERE AND, AND HOPEFULLY STAFF CAN START TO WEIGH THE VALUE OF THE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS WHEN MAKING THESE DECISIONS AS WELL, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO THIS WHY 10 TIMES, I'M PRETTY SURE I BIKED THERE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE TIMES PRETTY BIKE-ABLE AREA. SO I MISS COMMISSIONER HOWARD, I THINK YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. SURE. MY THUNDER HAS BEEN STOLEN, BUT I THINK THAT IDEA OF GETTING MORE AFFORDABILITY AT ANY AT, AT ANY POINT IS OBVIOUSLY A GOOD THING. AND I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT IS HERE IN FRONT OF US, I THINK, AS WAS MENTIONED, I MEAN, THINKING ABOUT LONG TERM AND WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION IS SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE AS AN A THEY HAVE. SO I THINK FOR ALL THOSE REASONS AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MENTION OF CONNECTIVITY, I THINK THAT THIS IS WHY I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, THAT'S ALL OF THE, UH, IN FAVOR SPOTS. AND SO, UH, LET'S GO AND TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION AND LET'S SEE THOSE ON THE DIETS IN FAVOR OF, OF JUST REITERATE. UH, MOST OF MY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HELPED ME OUT HERE, HOWARD. THANK YOU. AND REALLY IT'S TERRIBLE HERE. UH, SO IT'S APPLICANT'S REQUESTS WITH THE PROHIBITED USES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. OKAY, SIR. UM, THE DYESS, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR, MR. ANDERSON. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE OKAY. THAT'S THREE. AND THEN ON VIRTUALLY THOSE IN TABOR, I'M SEEING OKAY. SLOWLY THEY'RE COMING OUT. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER IS, ARE YOU WITH US? ARE YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON? I'M SORRY. YOU JUST POPPED IN, I THINK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA OKAY. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. THAT MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT'S OUR NEXT ITEM HERE. [03:35:01] UH, WE MAY NEED TO EXTEND TIME FOLKS. DO I HAVE MOTION TO EXTEND TIME? HOW MANY MORE CASES DO WE HAVE MR. RIVERA? SURE. COMMISSIONER IS ON THE ROAD. SO YOU HAVE A, B 13, 14 TO BE 15. OH BOY. OKAY. AND I MOVED TO EXTEND TIME TO 1130. ALL RIGHT. 1130. DO I HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER YANEZ? PALITO. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE DAYAS. UH, THE 1130. WE HAVE TO, UH, OKAY. THOSE ON THE SCREEN IN FAVOR OF 1130. UH, SO WE HAVE, OKAY. THAT'S SEVEN IN FAVOR AND, UH, COMMISSIONER AZHAR AS AGAINST MR. ANDERSON. YOU'RE AGAINST YOUR FOUR. OKAY. I MISSED IT. ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S A 7 8 9 9 1 8 1. OKAY. YES, COMMISSIONER TOLEDO. UH, I'M NOT WISHING TO MAKE THIS MEETING SUPER LONG, BUT IF, UH, IF YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN IT, I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY MOVE TO RECONSIDER BEATEN. UM, I ACTUALLY WAS, DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF, MR. SUTTLE, ACTUALLY, I THINK ASSUMED THAT, UM, I WOULD NOT BE OPEN TO THAT, BUT I WOULD SO WELL, IF I CAN DO THAT NOW OR LATER. OKAY. LET'S UH, JUST POINT OF ORDER IN THIS POINT IN THE MEETING, CAN WE GO BACK? I THINK WE CAN WRITE IN THIS AND A RECONSIDER THAT ITEM IF YOU COULD TAKE, UH, UH, THE, UM, UH, 13, UH, JUST THAT, THAT WOULD BE A TIME TO GET AHOLD OF THE APPLICANT. OKAY. YES. YEAH. YEAH. WE'LL TAKE THAT ONE AT THE END, IF, IF WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, NEXT ITEM, B [B13. Rezoning: C14-2022-0017 - Hudson Place; District 1] B 1413 CHAIR. YES. AND CAN WE UNDERSTAND REAL QUICK? WHY WE'RE HEARING BE 13, THE CHECK, THE MACHINE WASN'T ON. I HAD TEAM MEMBERS REGISTERED IN OPPOSITION. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. SPEAKERS, SPEAKERS, AND OPPOSITION. UH, GOOD EVENING. I, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS PULLED SO SORRY IF I'M FUMBLING EVEN MORE THAN USUAL. UH, C 14 20 22 0 0 1 7, UH, REQUESTING TO GO FROM SF THREE TO , UH, MULTIPLE ADDRESSES ON HUDSON STREET. IT'S ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES. UH, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED MF FOUR STAFF RECOMMENDS MF THREE, AND THE APPLICANT IS, UH, AMENABLE TO THAT. IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HUDSON STREET, APPROXIMATELY 1500 FEET WEST OF ED BLUE STEEN. IT'S COMPRISED OF MULTIPLE LOTS THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE INTENDED TO BE SINGLE FAMILY. THERE IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENCES RESIDENTS AND MIX OF UNDEVELOPED AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. IT'S REALLY HARD TO DETERMINE WHAT THE USES ARE ON THESE PROPERTIES ARE VERY DEEP AND YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL FROM THE STREET. UH, IT LOOKS LIKE JUST A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES TO THE EAST. ARE THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY TO THE EAST, UH, OR ZONED PROPERTY TO THE EAST. UH, AND THEN THAT'S JUST ONE LOT FURTHER EAST OR PROPERTIES IN GRM, UNP AND CSMP. THEY INCLUDE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR VEHICLE STORAGE AND RELATED USES TO THE NORTH ACROSS HUDSON ARE PROPERTIES ZONED, C S M U N P L I N P AND IP NP. THEY HAVE A BROAD MIX OF USES AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, PLANT NURSERY, RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY, OR SF THREE ZONE, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND A PNP PROPERTY WITH A CEMETERY. UH, THE SCALE OF AT THIS LOCATION, STAFF FELT WAS, UH, NOT APPROPRIATE FOR AN AIR. AND I SKIPPED OVER MENTIONING TO THE SOUTH, UH, IS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST OF THIS SITE. UH, WE FELT THAT MFR WAS NOT APPROPRIATE IN AN AREA SURROUNDED ON THREE SIDES BY SINGLE FAMILY, UH, PER HAVING MULTI-FAMILY IN THIS AREA WILL INCREASE HOUSING UNITS AND THE MIX OF HOUSING TYPES AVAILABLE, REFLECTING THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT MS. ALICE, GO ASK THEM AS PASCO, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES PRESENTATION. I'M ALIZA, CLASSICO REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, THIS CASE. AND, UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HERE, THE HOG PENN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE HAD A CUL-DE-SAC MEETING WHERE WE'VE MET THEM BEFORE [03:40:01] ON ANOTHER PROJECT THAT I DID NOT GO FORWARD. YES. MY PRESENTATION IS STILL COMING UP. BEAR WITH US JUST ONE A MINUTE. ALL RIGHT. JUST A ALERT FOLKS. NOBODY ELSE CAN LEAD. WE WERE AT THE QUORUM, SO, OH YOUR BET. SO, YEP. OKAY. YEAH, WE'RE AT QUORUM. UM, SO IF WE COULD JUST KEEP COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN AND ON THE DIOCESE, THAT WOULD HELP. THANKS TARA. POINT OF ORDER. CAN WE SET THE CLOCK WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON HER PRESENTATION, PLEASE? YES. YES. THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. OOPS, DISAPPEARED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO TH THE SUBJECT SIDE THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN HOT PINK, UM, THE AREA IS TO THE NORTH. YOU HAVE A LOT OF JUNKYARDS, UM, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF HAROLD CODE. YOU CAN SEE THE CITY MAINTENANCE FACILITY ON HAROLD COURT. OUR PROPERTY IS COMPRISED OF EIGHT ACRES. IT'S A NEXT SLIDE. THE ZONING CASE GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA. SO THIS IS PART OF THE EAST MLK NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. AND WITHIN THE ADOPTED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, THE AREA IN YELLOW THAT IS PART OF OUR SITE IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TO HAVE MIXED RESIDENTIAL. SO, UH, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE STUDIED THIS SITE, UM, BASED ON WHAT ELSE IS PLANNING THE AREA. WE, WHEN WE MET WITH THE HOG PEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE, UM, ALSO MADE THEM AWARE THAT MY CLIENT HAS ACQUIRED THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES ON HUDSON STREET. AND THEY WERE, THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF WE CAN REACH OUT TO AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO FIND OUT IF W WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE TO THE STREETS SINCE, UH, IN ADDITION TO THIS TRACT, THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MY CLIENT HAS UNDER CONTROL WITH THE ZONE GRM, YOU OBVIOUSLY, WITH MEU, WE DON'T NEED A ZONING CHANGE, BUT OTHERS WILL BE COMING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WORKING WITH A CONTACT TEAM TO COME FORWARD WITH A PLAN FOR THAT. SO THIS PARTICULAR TRACK, NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS SITE, THIS IS THE, UM, CONSTRAINTS MAP THAT OUR CIVIL ENGINEER LIKES TO PUT TOGETHER TO SEE WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF TREES. THERE'S A DRAINAGE WAY THAT KIND OF BISECTS THE SITE INTO TWO. AND, UH, SO WHEN WE, WE APPLIED FOR MFO TO GET APPLICATION ENOUGH AFTER MEETING THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WE FOUND THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING. SO, UH, ON THIS TRACK, NEXT SLIDE WE HAVE, UH, DECIDED TO JUST SIMPLY DO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, UH, ON ONE SIDE TOWNHOMES, THE COLOR SCHEME HERE SHOWS YOU THE TOWNHOMES ARE IN THE LIGHT BROWN COLOR AND THE, UM, OTHER, THE DARK BROWN, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. SO, UM, THE, UM, MFR ZONING AT THE TIME WE APPLIED THE, FOR THAT ZONING, WE WERE HOPING TO DO MULTIFAMILY ABOUT 260 UNITS. THAT WOULD BE, UM, UNDER MFO, BUT, UH, IN LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PLAN THAT MY CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING. SO WE'LL HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HERE. AND WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH OTHER REZONING, WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES. SO THIS IS JUST 97 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, UM, STANDALONE ON ONE SIDE. SO THE MP3 ZONING IS APPROPRIATE. NEXT SLIDE. I THINK THIS IS THE LAST ONE. UM, WE REALLY HAVE, WE MET WITH THE HOG PEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LAST WEEK. WE HAD A VIRTUAL MEETING AND THEY SEEMED SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THIS CASE. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT. AND, UM, I'LL JUST BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE OTHER SPEAKERS. THANK YOU. I ALSO HAVE MISS HANNAH, RIEMER HER REGISTERED? ARE YOU AVAILABLE TO HELLO AGAIN? UM, MY NAME'S HANNAH REMER. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THIS ONE, AND I'M JUST AVAILABLE. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME UP THAT I CAN HELP ADDRESS. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, MR. MIKE BORKIN STEIN AND RICHARD MACDONALD. UM, MR. BORKIN STEINER MCDONALD. UH, IF YOU'LL JUST SAY NOTE, WHO WILL BE THE PRIMARY SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION? HELLO, GOOD EVENING. UH, COMMISSIONERS. UM, MY NAME IS MIKE MORGENSTEIN. I LIVE ON A [03:45:01] DELANO STREET RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM, I MARK MYSELF DOWN AS OPPOSED, BUT I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED. I JUST WANTED TO RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT IMPACT TO TRAFFIC. UM, THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL REALLY ONLY BE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH 180 3, UM, OR THE FORT BRANCH JUNCTION THAT LEADS INTO ELEANOR AND, UH, DELANO STREETS ALREADY. THERE'S DISTRICT NARROWS IN VARIOUS PARTS THERE'S CARS THAT FREQUENTLY GET HIT. UM, SIDE VIEW MIRRORS GET KNOCKED OFF ON A REGULAR FREQUENTLY CARS TO PILE UP AT THE FORT BRANCH INTERSECTION WITH LIBREVILLE. UM, I'M JUST WORRIED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF TRAFFIC HERE. THERE'S KIDS WHO PLAY IN THE STREET. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. UM, I LOOKED AT THE PROPOSAL AND I SAW THAT THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS REQUIRED. AND IN ONE OF THE FORUMS, I SAW THAT IT WAS DEFERRED TO SITE PLAN. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE SOME CLARITY ON WHAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE, UH, BEFORE THIS MOVES FORWARD. THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR NOW HEAR FROM RICHARD MACDONALD, MR. SHAW? UH, I'M RICHARD MACDONALD AND I LIVE ON HUDSON STREET. UM, UH, I WASN'T AWARE OF ANY MEETINGS. I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR THE, UH, HOG PEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT, UM, THEY WERE TALKING NOT ABOUT MEETING ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OTHERS. I'M NOT I'M OPPOSED. I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, NOT JUST BECAUSE, UH, LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, I WAS WATCHING BABY HORSES BEING BORN RIGHT NEXT DOOR. AND THIS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A BIT OF A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD HOME OF THE BLACK COWBOYS OF AUSTIN. AND THERE'S STILL SIGNS ON THE STREET ABOUT HORSES, UH, ON THE ROAD. AND THERE ARE STILL HORSES THAT LIVE UP THE STREET. THE THING THAT SHE POINTED OUT IS THAT, UM, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY HOMES THAT ARE ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY. AND I KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED BECAUSE NOW IT'S JUST RAW LAND. BUT, UM, THE FACT THAT MIKE MENTIONED THAT THERE'S NO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, I CAN SORT OF GIVE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BECAUSE I LIVE IN DRIVE IN THAT STREET. AND THERE'S ONLY TWO WAYS OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 250 UNITS IN HERE AND ALL THE CARS IN THAT, LIKE MIKE WAS SAYING, THERE'S THREE STREETS. YOU COME OFF OF WEBER BELL ROAD AND ONTO FORT BRANCH. AND IT SPLITS INTO THREE STREETS AND THEY'RE ALL RESIDENTIAL STREETS WITH CARS PARKED ON THE SIDES AND KIDS PLAYING IN THE STREET AND DOGS PLAYING IN THE STREET. THEY'RE NOT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S ONE WAY OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE OTHER WAY OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ON HUDSON STREET, WHICH DEAD ENDS INTO THE 180 3 ACCESS ROAD AT A STOP SIGN WHERE YOU HAVE TO STOP AND THEN ENTER THE ACCESS ROAD WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING 60 MILES AN HOUR. AND YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE, UH, WHAT LANE THEY'RE IN, WHETHER THEY'RE ONE LANE OVER THE LANE YOU'RE IN. SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE 30 CARS SITTING AT THAT STOP SIGN WAITING TO GET ONTO 180 3 AND THE ACCIDENTS THAT MIGHT, THAT MIGHT ENSUE, UH, WHICH MAKES ME THINK THAT MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC WILL BE GOING DOWN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE WITH THIS IS THAT THE WAY, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY HAS RULES ABOUT NOTIFYING PEOPLE ABOUT THESE ZONING CHANGES WITHIN 500 FEET, BUT THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE OF ITS UNIQUE CONSTRUCTION OR TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, WHERE THERE'S ONLY TWO WAYS OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL OF THEM ARE THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR STRAIGHT OUT ONTO THE STREET. UM, I DON'T THINK THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ALL THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THAT SURROUND THIS PROPERTY WERE REALLY CONSIDERED IN THAT MOST OF THEM AREN'T WITHIN 500 FEET. MOST OF THEM AREN'T HERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. AND, UH, I JUST THINK THAT MAYBE THIS PROPERTY, THIS ZONING TENDS TO BE POSTPONED UNTIL A SERIOUS TRANSPORTATION SETTING CAN BE PRESENTED OR, UH, LOOKED AT. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE OBGYN FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. OH, WELL COMMISSIONER MEMBERS, I'M SORRY THAT MR. MACDONALD AND BROXTON WERE NOT A PART OF THE HOG PEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO THE TH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN WE'VE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING, ACTUALLY THE NEIGHBORS ASKED THAT WE MEET THEM ONSITE. THERE'S A, CUL-DE-SAC THAT, UM, TERMINATES TO THE SOUTH. COULD YOU PLEASE PULL UP MY SLIDES SO YOU CAN SEE THIS? SO THE, [03:50:01] THEY, THE NEIGHBORS MADE US AWARE THE FIRST SLIDE PLACE, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT, YEAH, WELL, THE AREA, SO THE TWO DILLANOS STREET IS THE STREET THAT CONNECTS. HE HAS A SITE IN, IN, UM, PURPLE GOING WESTWARD THAT DELANA STREET, UM, IS THE AREA THAT IS OF CONCERN. AND, UH, WE REACHED OUT TO ATD BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF THE, UM, UH, RIGHT OF WHAT IS REQUIRED TO BE DEDICATED ON THIS SIDE. SOME OF THE, UH, COUNTER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED ON THE SIDE TO THE NORTH THAT HAVE, HAVE ZONING HAVE THE RIGHT OF OUR DEDICATED. SO, UM, WE REACHED OUT TO ATD TO FIND OUT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE BECAUSE THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE RESIDENTS WE MET WITH, WE MET ABOUT WITH 10 PEOPLE AT THE CUL-DE-SAC IN MARCH. THEY, UM, ATD SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD TRAFFIC, CALMING MITIGATION, COLLECT TRAFFIC, CALMING ISLANDS, THE DILEMMA STREET, WHERE THERE IS A PROBLEM. THEY REALIZE THAT. AND WHAT THEY SUGGESTED TO US ATD IS THAT ARE WE, IF WE CAN COME UP WITH, GET COUNCIL TO APPROVE A MASTER PLAN, A STREET MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE MY CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO USE, UM, THEIR STREET IMPACT FEES TO, UM, HELP IMPROVE THE ROADWAY. UM, AND, UM, THE TRANSPORTATION STAFF, UH, SUGGESTED THAT WE, AND WE REACHED OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER HOPPER MET WITH OUR AID. THERE WOULD BE INDUSTRY TO SPONSOR A, AN ITEM THAT WOULD, UH, UH, UM, REQUIRE OUR STAFF TO WORK IN CREATING A STREET MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC CALMING AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STREET THAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO SINCE WE ARE GOING TO BE, UM, INVOLVED WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH STAFF THROUGH THIS WHEN WE GET IN WITH THE OTHER CASES, AND ALSO WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, UPPER MADISON, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT CREATES A MASTER STREET PLAN FOR THE AIR THAT EVERYBODY CAN ADHERE TO, TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCIES. THE ROAD CAN BE WIDENED AT THE SAME TIME AND ALSO PROVIDE THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THAT ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS. AND ATD ALSO LIKED TO SEE. SO, UM, UM, THE TWO GENTLEMEN WHO SPOKE W DID NOT ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE NOT, UM, UH, ABLE TO HEAR THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THEIR NEIGHBORS. AND ALSO THE SUPPORT THAT THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH OF US ALSO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO SPUR THE STREET IMPROVEMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THEM TO, UH, IN WORK IN COUNSELING HOPPER, MADISON FOR DISTRICT ONE REGARDING THIS STREET MASTER PLAN FOR HUDSON STREET. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S SEE, WE NEED TO GO TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. ANDERSON, A SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE VOTE ON THE DIOCESE. UM, IT'S EVERYONE ON THE SCREEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. UH, ALL RIGHT. UM, QUESTIONS, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER COX. I JUST THINK FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, I DIDN'T SEE ANY SIDEWALKS SHOWN ON A LITTLE GRAPHIC THAT YOU SHOWED FOR THE SITE PLAN. I ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO SIDEWALK ALONG HUDSON. YES. YES. WELL, YEAH. AND I SAW THE, I SAW THE ASM P WAS LIKE LEVEL TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO YOU'RE EXPECTING TO DEDICATE PROBABLY MAYBE AROUND 10 OR SO FEET OF YOUR PROPERTY FRONT IS FOR RIGHT OF WAY. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UM, DO YOU KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT MUCH FURTHER TO GET TO, UH, THE INTERSECTION OF DELANO AND HUDSON, WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT HAS SOME RELATIVELY NEW SIDEWALKS BUILT OUT ALONG HUDSON DELANO, ELEANOR, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO KIND OF THE FIRST MAJOR STREET, WHICH WOULD BE A WEBER BILL. DO YOU KNOW IF, IF THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO, TO FILL THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY FROM YOUR DEVELOPMENT TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH ATD ON A MASTER PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING THE COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THE, UM, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING THE ATD STAFF REGARDING THE USE OF, UH, THE STORE STREET IMPACT FEE, SOME IT CAN BE APPLIED. THE DEVELOPER CAN, UM, PROPOSE TO MAKE CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS AND THEY'LL GET CREDIT APPLY TO THEM. BUT THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS STREET ITSELF IS DUE TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN, A STREET MASTER PLAN, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A COUNCIL RESOLUTION. AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT AND ALSO WORKING WITH ATD. AND WE WOULD, YES, MY CLIENT IS WILLING TO, UH, TO, TO HIRE A CONSULTANT, TO PREPARE A STREET MASTER PLAN, SIMILAR TO THE GREAT STREETS PLAN, BUT MAYBE IN BETWEEN GREAT [03:55:01] STREETS AND COMMERCIAL DESIGN STANDARDS, WHERE YOU HAVE CONSISTENT SIDEWALKS AND SHARED, UH, TREES AND ALSO WORK WITH ATD REGARDING WHERE THEY WANT THE TRAFFIC CALMING ISLANDS ALONG THE STREET, AND ALSO TO ADDRESS THE DELANO, UH, INTERSECTION WHERE THEY, THEY AGREE THERE'S A PROBLEM THEY LIKE TO, TO CORRECT. SO YES, WE WOULD WORK WITH THE, DEVELOPER'S WILLING TO DO THAT PLAN AT, AT THEIR OWN COST. YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT THE PLAN OR THE PLAN IS GOING TO BE AT MY CLIENT'S COST, WHICH IS NEEDED THE, THE MECHANISM TO, TO, TO, TO WORK WITH STAFF, TO GET IT IMPLEMENTED SO THEY CAN, SO THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE STREET CAN BE CONSISTENT, HAVE THE SAME PATTERN FOR THE ENTIRE STRETCH. YEAH, NO, THAT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. UM, DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'D HAVE THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO CROSS THE THRESHOLD TO REQUIRE A TIA? UH, NOT, NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, WE JUST HAD 97 UNITS. WE DON'T REQUIRE TIA. AND IN MEETING WITH AUSTIN THIS PAST WEEK, I'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS THROUGH THE AUSTIN WITH ATD REGARDING THEIR STREET IMPACT FEE, UM, AND HOW THAT CAN BE USED. AND, UM, UM, THEY, AND WE'VE ASKED HIM ABOUT TRAFFIC IMPACTS. APPARENTLY THERE THEY LOOK AT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE. SO WE'LL, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE OTHER REZONINGS FOR THE AREAS THAT ARE ZONED INDUSTRIAL, WHERE CURRENTLY THEY ARE JUNKYARDS, REALLY JUST CAUSE JUST PARK THERE. AND, UH, WE WILL BE WORKING TO COME UP WITH A MASTER PLAN WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN INCLUDE THE TWO GENTLEMEN. SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU. UH, THE, UH, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT. WE CAN ONLY DO THAT IN JULY. SO WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, ONCE WE'VE HAD THE SUBMITTAL IN THE PROGRESS. NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT LAST QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WHAT THAT STREET IMPACTED? HE MIGHT BE IN A DOLLAR VALUE IT'S BASED, IT'S BASED ON NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WHEN YOU GO IN IT'S ASSESSED WITH A FORMULA, THEY PLUG IN BASED ON EITHER YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE, IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE FAR, OR IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL, THEN IT'S REALLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR IT'S 97 YEARS, BUT IT'S THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING FORWARD. THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. OKAY. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE? NO, I DON'T. THEY JUST, WE JUST HAD TRAINING SESSION JUST THIS PAST TUESDAY. AND SO W BUT WE'LL WILL WE'LL KNOW MORE WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU, WE'LL HOPEFULLY HAVE A NICE, PRETTY PLAN TO SHOW YOU A MASTER STREET PLAN WHEN WE COME BACK PROBABLY AFTER THE, WE SUBMIT THE OTHER FORMER AMENDMENT. AND REZONINGS GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, JUST A LITTLE QUESTIONS. UH, I DO HAVE ONE. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET OUT OF THE WAY. SO, UM, IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE, THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS SOME CHANGES IN THE PLANS. UH, AND WITH THE CURRENT SITE PLAN, YOU SHOWED US WHAT ZONING SUPPORTS THAT IS THAT MP3, NP OR MFA FOR WHAT DO YOU NEED TO WORKS FINE FOR US. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SORRY. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DO WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS WITH EMOTION? UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, UH, IS MOVING FOR A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS A THREE NP. OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COX. AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, IT'S THOUGHTFUL. IT'S FORWARD THINKING IT'S 97 UNITS. IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT CURRENT ZONING WOULD ALLOW. UM, SF THREE ZONING IS A GREAT WAY OF REQUIRING TOO MUCH LAND PER HOME, AND WE DO THAT IN TOO MANY PLACES. SO LET'S LET MORE PEOPLE TO LIVE MORE AFFORDABLY HERE WOULD BE GREAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST C NONE. UM, THAT'S GOING TO MOVE FOR THIS, UH, UM, MR. ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COX. UH, THIS IS TOO ABOUT ON STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THAT'S ON THE DICE AND TAVR. UH, THAT'S EVERYONE. AND THOSE, SEE, I'M COUNTING 1, 2, 3, 4, SO THAT GETS US TO SEVEN. AND I SEE THAT COMMISSIONING AS PLATO AND COMMISSIONER PRAXIS ARE VOTING IN ABSTENTION. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, SO WE SEVEN, THAT ONE PASSES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, THAT WAS SEVEN TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. UH, THE NEXT [B14. Rezoning: C14-2022-0031 - Remove Vehicular Access Restriction to Morrow Street; District 7] ITEM IS, UH, BEFORE THE 14. OKAY, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER MEMBERS. MY NAME IS WENDY ROSE WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING [04:00:01] DEPARTMENT. UH, THIS CASE IS, UH, TITLED REMOVE RE VEHICLE VEHICULAR ACCESS RESTRICTION TO MORROW STREET. UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, UH, INVOLVES REMOVING A RESTRICTION OF VEHICULAR ACCESS TO MORROW STREET VIA EASY WIN DRIVE. ALTHOUGH THE ZONING CHANGES IS OVER 30 ACRES IN SIZE. THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS JUST LIMITED TO THE INTERSECTION OF EASY WIND AND MORROW STREET. UH, THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE IS THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UH, WE HAVE SUBMITTED A ZONING APPLICATION TO REMOVE A CONDITION THAT WAS ADDED TO THE CRESTVIEW TOD IN 2011, THAT RESTRICTS VEHICLE OR ACCESS TO MORROW STREET FROM EASY WIND DRIVE. THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED AS A RESULT OF A COUNCIL RESOLUTION, UH, REMOVING THE ZONING CONDITION, RESTRICTING ACCESS WOULD ENSURE LONGTERM UNIMPEDED ACCESS TO MORROW STREET FROM THE CRESTVIEW STATION AREA. THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, UH, HAS RECOMMENDED REMOVAL OF THE GATE FOLLOWING A THREE MONTH TRAFFIC STUDY THAT FOUND, UH, OPENING THE GATE CREATED NO SIGNIFICANCE, UM, SAFETY RISKS. SO ARE IN CONCLUSION, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE TO T O D AND P TO REMOVE THAT VEHICULAR ACCESS RESTRICTION TO MORROW STREET. I HAVE INCLUDED THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION, UH, AND EIGHT ATD MEMO AND THE BACKUP. THERE ARE COMMENTS IN FAVOR AND IN SUPPORT OF THIS ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JARED. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MS. HELEN KELLY BASS AS BEST YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. SO LIKE STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH YOUR MARKS. I MEAN, IT'S BEST TO MAKE, UH, IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOUR DEVICE IS UN-MUTED AS WELL. UM, I SHOW YOU, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. THANK YOU, PRECEDE. OKAY. SO MY NAME IS KELLY THAT IN A RESIDENT PRESS YOU FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS, HAVING REVIEWED THE STAFF REPORT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PRIMARY JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS CHANGE LISTED ON PAGE TWO IS THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH, THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS CIRCUS AND I'M QUOTING HERE IS TO PROVIDE THE ELEMENT THAT IS PALATABLE WITH SUPPORTIVE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED ENVIRONMENT. SO WHY ARE WE CONSIDERING ALLOWING FOR MORE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC? HOW EXACTLY WILL THAT ENCOURAGE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND PEDESTRIAN VIEWS RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN CRUSTIES STATION BOUGHT INTO AN AREA IN YOUR PUBLIC TRANSIT, IF THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO USE PUBLIC AND WHO IS ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD NOT DEVELOPMENT ALLOWED TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH ONE AND TWO CAR GARAGE, DO NOTHING TO FURTHER THE PUBLIC TRANSIT PURPOSE OF THIS SUPPOSEDLY TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. MOREOVER, MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE AND CENTRAL OFFICE, IF IT WAS ACTUALLY SET UP TO BE A TRUE PUBLIC TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S YOUR MISSING MIDDLE? THERE'S YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING? I TAKE MY DOG ON MORNING RUNS THE ONE EVENING WALKS WITH MY HUSBAND NEARLY EVERY DAY. SO I KNOW THAT STRETCH OF ROAD VERY WELL IS HEAVILY TRAFFICKED BY PEOPLE, PETS AND VEHICLES FREQUENTLY. I DO NOT FEEL SAFE. AND THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S REPORT FAULTY, THOUGH. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT GAP IN DEBT. IT'S NOT A THREE MONTH STUDY AS REPORTED BY STAFF THERE'S ENTIRE MONTH MISSING WHEN AT LEAST IN DATA BEARS THAT OUT BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT THE TRAFFIC DOUBLED AND TRIPLED IN SOME AREAS AFTER THE GATE WAS REMOVED CURIOUSLY, NO DATA WAS COLLECTED FOR THE STREETS, MORE FEW STATIONS. AND WHAT ELSE WILL CREST YOU PROPS SUCH AS GOLD. HE WALKED THE STREET, STUDIED AND THE STATION, OR RIGHT OFF OF MAURO WHERE THE GATE WAS REMOVED, BUT I DON'T LIKE THEIR STREET. THEY DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS FOR FOUR WEEKS. STOP SIGNS AT EVERY INTERSECTION. THIS IS A GLARING MISTAKE BECAUSE THEIR REPORT ALSO SHOWS THAT THAT MAJORITY OF OURS FOR HOURS CARS A DAY MOVE MORE YOU PROP I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT ONCE [04:05:01] AGAIN, THE WAND STANDING NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING ASKED TO BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE CITY POOR PLAN, BUT I DID WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT OCRACY OF THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDING THE SPEECH, WHICH I WILL EMPHASIZE IS NOT REQUIRED BY ANYONE, THIS NEIGHBOR. AND THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS PROVIDED. BRITTANY COMMENTS WERE OVERWHELMINGLY. I CAN THIS SPEECH. AND I ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT STAFF EIGHT MEANT THAT THERE WERE SOME RESIDENTS IN FAVOR WHO APPEARED TO BE A LARGELY ANONYMOUS, WHICH IS ALSO FUN. THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS BUNGLED FROM THE CITY FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MADE. PLEASE REJECT THE PROPOSED CHANGE. AND IT'S ALSO RIDICULOUS. THIS MEETING IS IN PLACE AT ALMOST 10 30 AT NIGHT. AND SO MUCH OF THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, REGULAR PEOPLE. AND YOU'RE HAVING MEETINGS IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT WHEN HARDLY ANYONE AND SO THAT NO ONE SEES THE DIRTY DS AT THE CITY IS DOING BIG THINK HER DEVELOPERS. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM, UH, MR. ANDREW CRAWFORD, MR. CRAWFORD, UH, YOUR PRESENT HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. MOVING TO MR. CHAIR. HI THERE. I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THIS CHANGE. UM, AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY WHAT I TALK WHEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS WHAT WAS MISSED IN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. UM, ALL OF US RELY ON EXPERTS TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN REALLY BAD ADVICE BY MY BRITAIN, A LETTER THAT THERE'S IN YOUR BACKING MATERIAL THAT DISCUSSES THE MANY, MANY DEFICIENCIES IN THE RECOMMENDATION. I'M ON THE CLOCK HERE. SO I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT THAT MANY AS I CAN. UM, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY BASIS FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION? WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY OPENED A GATE. THEY COUNTED THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT WENT THROUGH, AND THEY DECIDED THAT THOSE COUNTS WERE SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS. UM, WHAT YOU'RE HEARING TONIGHT, AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IS THAT IT'S NOT SAFE. UH, PEDESTRIANS ARE REDUCING THEIR USE OF THESE ROADS. UH, BICYCLISTS ARE HAVING CONFLICTS WITH VEHICLES AND NONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE STUDIED. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT PRIMARILY AFFECT VULNERABLE ROAD USERS, OUR DECISION IS TO STUDY CARS AND TO STUDY CARS ONLY THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE MANY OF YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO KEEP OUR MODE SHARE OBJECTIVE. IF WE ONLY SPENDING ONE MODE, UM, UH, AUSTIN TRANSIT, THEY WANT STREETS IN AUSTIN TO BE OPEN TO VEHICLE TRAFFIC. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY IN THEIR MEMORANDUM AS A REASON FOR ADVANCING THIS PROPOSAL AND IN SUPPORT OF THAT SITE, COMPLETE STREETS. UM, I WAS UNAWARE THAT COMPLETE STREETS MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO OPEN EVERY STREET IN AUSTIN, TWO VEHICLES THAT'S NEWS TO ME, I THINK MANY OF US WANT TO ACHIEVE, UH, MODE SHARE GOAL. AND, UH, YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT THAT WHAT COMPLETE STREETS MEANS IN THIS CASE. UM, THEY ALSO STAYED IN THEIR MEMORANDUM THAT THERE ARE NO UNIQUE SITUATIONS THAT JUSTIFY CLOSING THE STREETS. OF COURSE, THIS IS A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PRIORITIZE TRANSIT. IT'S A PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY SPEED. THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED IN THE REGULATING PLAN. AND THE DESIGN GOAL OF THIS STREET IS TO PRIORITIZE THE DESTINATION. AND THE WAY THAT WE PRIORITIZE THEM IS THROUGH FEATURES LIKE THIS CASE TONIGHT, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO UNDO THAT PRIORITIZATION. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY STREETS THERE ARE IN AUSTIN. THERE AREN'T VERY MANY THERE FOR THAT APPEARED IN THIS DISTRICT. THERE ARE THREE TRANSIT DISTRICTS IN AUSTIN, UM, BUT A PEDESTRIAN PRIORITY FREED SEEMS LIKE A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION TO ME. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, THERE, ACCORDING TO AUSTIN TRANSIT, THERE ARE NO UNIQUE SITUATIONS HERE. UM, AGAIN, THE EFFECT OF THIS CHANGE ON PEDESTRIAN WAS NOT STUDIED. THERE ARE MANY MORE THINGS THAT I CAN SAY I MIGHT REFER YOU TO MY LETTER. UM, THIS IS A CHANGE THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, THAT WE DIDN'T STUDY THE IMPACT TO PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS. WE DID STUDY CARS. UM, THIS IS A UNIQUE STREETS. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PRIORITIZING PEDESTRIANS. AND YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO UNDO THAT TONIGHT. AND THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO IT. IT DOESN'T ADVANCE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT DOESN'T ADVANCE ANY OF THE CITY'S PRIORITIES. AND SO I'D ASKED IF YOU EVER REJECTED, AND I REFER YOU TO MY LETTER. THANKS SO MUCH. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. CHIP HARRIS, LET'S TERRACE YOU OUT THREE MINUTES, [04:10:07] SELECT STAR SIX, TO PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. WHEN ZONING FOR THE MIDTOWN T U T O D WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL A FEW YEARS AGO, WHO IS WITH THE STIPULATION THAT EXCEPT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, VEHICLES, TRAFFIC WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO MORROW. CITY STAFF MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION BASED ON A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT DOCUMENTED OVER 9,000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY WOULD BE GENERATED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE HUNTSMAN CHEMICAL TRACK. NOW CRESTVIEW STATION, MIDTOWN TOD, FURTHER THE STUDY REPORT THAT OPRAH ALISON TRIP TODAY WOULD END UP ON BORROW EXCEEDING THRESHOLD WITH TRAFFIC VOLUME. IT WOULD BE SAFE FOR A STREET WITH MORROW'S RESIDENTIAL CHARACTERISTIC. CURRENT TRIP SPEND BY THE CITY SHOWED 1,990 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY, ALMOST 2000 ON MORROW ALREADY OVER 50% HIGHER THAN THE CITY'S DESIRABLE OPERATING LEVEL OF 1200 VEHICLE TRIPS PER RESIDENTIAL BRIEF BASED ON THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION 25 DASH SIX TASK ONE 16 DURING THE PREVIOUS ZONING, THIS PROPERTY PRESS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ENCOURAGED THE CITY'S POSITION, PROHIBITING PARTICULAR ACCESS TOMORROW AND CITED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAD THREE ACCESS POINTS ON THE MARK. ONE OF WHICH WAS PROVIDED A LEFT TURNS ONTO LAMAR WHEN EXITING MIDTOWN PROTECTED LEFT TURNS, I CREST YOUR NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN OPPOSED TO OPENING MORROW TO MORE TRAFFIC DUE TO CONCERNS. THE TRAFFIC WILL REFER TO PRIOR LEVEL OF OVER 9,000 VEHICLES PER DAY ON MORROW, GROSSLY HIGHER THAN THE TYPICAL CRESTVIEW STREET THAT SEES 500 OR FEWER VEHICLES PER DAY. THE PROPOSED OPENING ON TOMORROW. IS IT EASY WHEN A ROAD THAT A ROAD THAT CONNECTS DIRECTLY TO THE MARS 40,000 PLUS DAILY TRAFFIC NOW AND CONTINUES EAST THE ST JOHN'S AVENUE CONNECTING WITH . THE PROPOSED CHANGE COMES AT A TIME WHEN MARA WAS ALREADY DEALING WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC AS A RESULT OF HER MOVING THE PORK CHOP AT LAMAR, THAT PROTECTED MORROW FROM WESTBOUND CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON MAJOR ARTERIALS LIKE LAMAR RESULTING FROM DENSIFICATION APPEARS TO HAVE THE CITY REPURPOSING NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS TO RELIEVE THE EVER-GROWING INGESTION ON THE ARTERIALS. THERE ARE STEPS THE CITY CAN TAKE TO REASSURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WON'T LET MORROW OR REVERT TO ITS PREVIOUS UNTENABLE POSITION. THE FIRST STEP IS TO PAUSE THIS PROCESS OF CHANGING THE ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO ENGAGE WITH THOSE MORROW RESIDENTS WILL BEAR THE BRUNT OF INCREASED TRAFFIC IN ORDER TO DEVELOP, PROVE A CITY PLAN THAT MONITORS TRAFFIC VOLUME AND OUTLINE SPECIFIC ACTIONS. THE CITY WILL TAKE REDUCE VOLUME AND PROTECT RESIDENTS. DON'T TAKE HER TO YOUR TOMORROW BY IDENTIFYING ROADWAY MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE. SHOULD TRAFFIC TRAFFIC VOLUMES ON MORROW EXCEEDS CERTAIN THRESHOLD. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM JOHN MENDEZ. OKAY. MOVING ON TO TANYA SCALPER, LONDA. HELLO, THIS IS TANYA CAROLYN, AND PLEASE BEAR WITH ME THE ECHO TO JACKO ANYBODY ON THE PHONE. I'LL DO MY BEST TO GET THROUGH THIS. UM, I LIVED ON THE STREET MORE EASY WINS, JUST PROBABLY FOUR POP. AND I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT IS WHEN I RECEIVED THE NOTICE WITH THE NATURE OF THE CHANGE BEING MS. SCOTT, LINDA, CAN YOU PAUSE FOR A MINUTE? CAN YOU, UH, TRY AND FIND A [04:15:01] BETTER PLACE, UH, IN YOUR PROXIMITY WITH A BETTER CONNECTIVITY? I OKAY. I WILL. I WILL DO MY BEST. IS THERE ANY WAY OF REDUCING THE, SORRY, YOU'RE STILL BREAKING UP. SHE'S ASKING ABOUT THE ECHO ON HER SIDE. THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ON THIS. YEAH, NO. YES. SO EVERY PHONE ON YOUR SIDE HAVE A HUGE EGO ANYWAY. SURE. UM, I LIVE JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THAT INTERSECTION IN QUESTION, AND I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I WAS VERY PLEASED WHEN I RECEIVED THE NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE A PUBLIC HEARING IT IS AT THE NATURE OF THE CHANGE WAS TO REMOVE THE CONDITIONS PROHIBITING VEHICULAR ACCESS MORROW STREET. AND I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS BARRIER THAT WERE IN QUESTION HAS ALREADY BEEN REMOVED. SO IT TEMPORARILY OPENED FOR A WHILE. AND A FEW WEEKS AGO, MAYBE, MAYBE A MONTH AGO, THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE WAS ALREADY GONE. SO I WONDERED IF I MISSED THE COMMUNICATION OR SOMETHING ABOUT REMOVING IT OR EATING IT. IT LENDS ME TO JUST ASSUME THAT WITH MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS, WE'RE LED TO BELIEVE THAT THE VOICE MAKE A DIFFERENCE. YOU KNOW, NOT AS MANY PEOPLE CAME FORWARD TODAY, OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE. AND IT WAS VERY CONFUSING TO ME WHEN I RECEIVED THAT NOTE. SO WE GO, JUST GO FORWARD. THE BARRIER ARE HABITED THE HECK. HE HAD KILLER TRAFFIC TO OUR SAFETY PURPOSE OF OUR TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO INCREASE AND CHANGES, ENCOURAGING MORE TRAFFIC. SO THEY REMOVED A PORK CHOP THAT WERE MARKED DIFFERENT AREAS THAT MAYBE EVEN SOME OF THE I'M SORRY, THE ECHO IS REALLY BOTHERING ME. UM, SOME OF THE BARRIERS TO REDUCE TRAFFIC CALMING DUE TO DIFFERENT AND ON A ROAD CONSTRUCTION HAD BEEN REMOVED. SO THE ROAD CONTINUES TO BECOME MORE AND MORE UNSAFE. I LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MORROW IN ORDER TO GET TO AN, A SIDEWALK. I HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET. I MOVED TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I LIKED THE POSSIBILITY OF IT. I LIKE BEING ABLE TO WALK, BUT WHEN I GO OUT TO WALK MY DOGS IN THE MORNING, I HAVE TO INCH OUT INTO THE STREET WITH MY TWO DOGS, LOOKING AROUND THE PARKED CARS THAT ARE UP AND DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE ONLY PARKED CARS AND AROUND ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET. AND THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THIS. GREAT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES, BUT IT'S LIKE PLAYING LEAPFROG. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THE OLD ATARI LEAP FROG, BUT I USED TO PLAY. IT'S LIKE PLAYING LEAPFROG EVERY DAY, EVERY MORNING, EVERY AFTERNOON, TRYING TO GET ACROSS THE STREET. SO IT'S A VERY, VERY UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS TRUE, BUT THINGS THAT I HAVE HEARD IS THAT THE MIDTOWN COMMON FOLKS FELT IT WAS UNSAFE PICKING LEFT-HAND TURNS OUTSIDE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ON TO LAMAR. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS THAN TO MAKE OUR LIVES. THEY MAKE THEIR LESS, THIS. I AGREE WITH MAKING THEM SAY, DON'T, DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE, GIVE UP ONE SAFETY FOR ANOTHER. OKAY. THAT WAS THE BUZZER. UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AND STOP THERE IF YOU DON'T MIND. UM, WHO'S THE NEXT SPEAKER. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM STEVE COONER MR. GREENERY. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. IT. ISN'T COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS PETE KUNAR. MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT 1811 MORALS STREET. BUT THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TO REMOVE THE EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE AT EASY WINE AND MORROWS STREET, YOU WERE BEING ASKED TO DO SOMETHING THAT HYPOCRITICAL AT DESK YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO SUPPORT VEHICULAR USE OTHER RESIDENTS OF THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. THE EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE EASY WIND [04:20:01] WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO CONNECT TOMORROW STREET. THE GATE WAS STILL AFFORD INCREASED ACCESS BY EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAUSE THE T O D TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. THE PLACEMENT OF THE GATE ACKNOWLEDGED THE NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE SAFETY OF THOSE LIVING ON MORAL AND NEARBY STREETS BY THE TRAFFIC JANET RATED BY THE T O D S 1000 PLUS RESIDENTS AND ASSORTED BUSINESSES. IN ADDITION, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE AN ACTION THAT SUPPORT AND PROMOTE THE USE OF PERSONAL VEHICLES. I ASKED YOU NOT TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY ACCESS REMOVAL AND UNTIL THE CITY TAKES ACTION TO MITIGATE THE THREAT TO NEARBY RESIDENCE BY TRAFFIC CREATED BY THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE DID NOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKER ON THE SIDE OF ALL RIGHT. AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REBUTTAL, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, UH, EMOTION CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FISHERS ARE SINGING ABOUT, COULD'VE BEEN SCHNEIDER. THAT'S GONE NUTS ON THE DAYAS. UM, AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN, IT'S UNANIMOUS EIGHT TO ZERO. OKAY. UH, QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. OH, ERIC OUTSTANDING. OKAY. WELL, I COULDN'T TELL. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S SO FOR CLOSING, THE PUBLIC HEARING YOU'RE ABSTAINING. YES. OKAY. SO IT 7 0 1 WITH THE COMMISSIONER COX ABSTAINING. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S CLOSED AND WE'RE GOING TO GO MOVE INTO QUESTIONS. UM, WHO HAS THE FIRST QUESTION FOR EITHER, YEAH, EITHER THE CITY OR THOSE SPEAKING AGAINST A FISHER CUTS, UH, FOR STAFF, I GUESS. UM, IT'S REALLY, THESE THINGS JUST INFURIATE ME. UM, SO HOPEFULLY THAT ISN'T CONVEYED IN MY TOWN, READING THROUGH ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE IS REALLY ENLIGHTENING. UM, BECAUSE I HONESTLY CAN'T TELL IF THIS WHOLE THING CAME ABOUT BECAUSE ATD JUST DECIDED THEY WERE AGAINST THE ORIGINAL NEGOTIATIONS OF THE ORIGINAL ZONING CASE AND WANTED TO GO AGAINST IT. OR IF PUBLIC WORKS WAS TIRED OF MAINTAINING THE VANDALISM THAT PEOPLE WERE DOING TO PUBLIC PROPERTY, UM, OR IF THIS WAS SOMETHING FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT FOR SOME REASON HAD IT OUT FOR THIS GATE KID, COULD, COULD STAFF CLARIFY WHY WE'RE EVEN LISTENING TO THIS TONIGHT? OKAY. UH, YES. MY NAME IS WENDY RHODES WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UH, THIS ZONING CASE WAS FILED AS A RESULT OF A COUNCIL RESOLUTION AND, UM, THAT, THAT IS PROVIDED IN THE BACKUP. UM, THERE WERE TWO COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS, ONE WAS IN SEPTEMBER AND THE ONE IN SEPTEMBER DIRECTED THE, UH, EIGHT AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY. AND THAT'S ON PAGE 14, THE RESOLUTION, AND, UM, THE RESULTS OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY ARE DETAILED IN A MEMO ON PAGE 15. THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WERE, THERE WAS A TABLE PROVIDED THAT TOOK TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND SPEEDS WITH THE GATE OPENED AND CLOSED. UH, ONCE THAT MEMO HAD BEEN COMPLETED, THERE WAS ANOTHER COUNCIL RESOLUTION IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR TO, UM, FOR STAFF TO FILE A ZONING CASE. UM, I, WHEN THE ISSUE I WAS ALERTED TO, UH, THAT THE GATE WAS THE GATE THAT THE GATE WAS DOWN. AND SO I DID INQUIRE WITH ATD AND WAS DIRECTED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH, STATED THAT, UM, THAT THE GATE WAS BROKEN ON THE GROUND. AND, AND IT'S, UH, HAS BEEN STATED BEFORE THAT THE, THAT THERE WAS VANDALISM TO THE GATE ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. UM, BUT AT ONE POINT THE GATE WAS BROKEN AND ON THE GROUND. SO THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, STRAIGHTENED BRIDGE OPERATION STAFF REMOVE THE BROKEN GATE. AND WHAT WAS LEFT WAS A POST THAT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. AND THAT WAS NOT DEEMED TO BE SAFE, THAT WAS CONSIDERED A SAFETY ISSUE. UM, AND THEN THE, THE, UH, STRAIGHTENED BRIDGE OPERATION STAFF REMOVE THAT POST. UH, AND IF, UH, POST THE POST WAS DEEMED A SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T REPLACE THE GATE. RIGHT. UH, CORRECT. UM, AND SO, AND JUST [04:25:01] TO, AND JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A 2011 ZONING ORDINANCE. YES. UM, THAT WAS PROBABLY VERY, VERY HASHED OUT IN DETAILED, BASED ON THE SIZE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND, AND JUST TO CONFIRM THAT ZONING ORDINANCE HAS A SPECIFIC PROVISION, I'M TRYING TO FIND IT, THAT THAT ACTUALLY PROHIBITS VEHICULAR ACCESS TO MORA MORA STREET. YES, IT DOES. IT'S UM, IT'S IN THE BACKUP AS PART. LET ME, LET ME JUST TELL YOU THE PAGE NUMBER IT'S ON PAGE 11 OF THE BACKUP AT THE VERY TOP OF, HEY, KILLER ACCESS TO MORROW STREET IS PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICULAR ACCESS OR VEHICULAR USE. YEAH. I WISH I REALLY, UH, WAS TUNED INTO THAT COUNCIL DISCUSSION WHERE THOSE, WHERE THOSE, UH, COUNCIL ACTIONS CAME FROM TO SEE WHAT THAT CONVERSATION WAS LIKE. BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JUST A QUESTION ON WHO WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT. DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENTS AND THIS HERE TO COME FROM THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER? I UNFORTUNATELY NOT KNOW. OKAY. THAT, THAT, OKAY. IT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. WELL, HOLD ON. WELL, YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME FOR MR. COX. YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE. OH, I, IF THEY'RE RUNNING ANY QUESTIONS, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. UH, LET ME LOOK AROUND THE ROOM. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE. UH, JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE QUORUM HERE. YES, WE HAVE. WE DO. OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THAT DON'T EVEN REQUEST. UH, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND TO DENY THE ZONING REQUEST? UH, SECOND BY FISHERY ON SPLIT UP, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? COMMISSIONER COX? I SAID THERE'S SO MANY TIMES BEFORE I DON'T, WE, WE ARE TRYING TO FIND CONSENSUS WITHIN ALL THE STATE QUARTER STAKEHOLDERS TO TRY TO MAKE THESE THINGS POSSIBLE. AND I WAS NOT INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE IN 2011, BUT I HAVE BEEN INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN ZONING CASES THAT TOOK YEARS TO NEGOTIATE. AND, AND WHAT I FIND IS THAT IT'S REALLY SURPRISING, UH, HOW IMPORTANT CERTAIN THINGS ARE EVEN THE MOST MINOR THINGS TO GETTING THE MOST CONSENSUS ON THE ZONING CASES. I ALSO CONSTANTLY HAVE TO BATTLE PEOPLE WHEN I'M TRYING TO HELP NEGOTIATE ZONING CASES BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS, OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, THE DEVELOPER CITY STAFF. UM, THERE'S A PERCEPTION AMONGST A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THE CITY'S JUST GONNA BLOW THESE THINGS UP ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES IT. AND SO ALL OF THIS EFFORT AND ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THIS TIME HAS TAKEN TO TRY TO REACH THIS CONSENSUS THAT THE CITY IS JUST GOING TO DECIDE, WELL, WE DON'T LIKE THIS, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO WHATEVER THEY, WHATEVER THE HECK WE WANT AND, AND READING THE BACKUP AND THE DIALOGUE HERE. AND THAT'S KINDA WHAT HAPPENED. THE CITY JUST DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO STOP MAINTAINING THIS GATE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT TURNED INTO THAT COUNCIL ACTION AND THE STUDY AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. BUT NOW WE'RE BACK HERE TRYING TO REMOVE THIS, THIS, THIS, UH, THIS PROHIBIT, UH, PROHIBITION ON VEHICLE ACCESS THAT I KNOW WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET THAT ZONING CASE PASSED. AND SO THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF THING THAT, THAT, THAT THE DETRACTORS USE TO SAY, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT ANY OF THESE ZONING CASES BECAUSE THE CITY OR WHATEVER, IT'S JUST GOING TO BLOW UP ANY COMPROMISE THAT WE MAKE. AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT THAT. AND IT INFURIATES ME THAT WE'RE EVEN THAT WE'RE EVEN LOOKING AT THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS EITHER FOUR OR FIVE OTHER ACCESS POINTS. THEY DON'T NEED THIS ACCESS POINT. IT'S PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ONLY AS THE ZONING CASE SAID, THE CITY NEEDS TO DO THEIR JOB, MAINTAIN THE GATE. AND I HOPE WE REJECT IS OKAY. COMMISSIONER SPEAKING, UH, I GUESS AGAINST THE MOTION COMMISSIONER, HIS ARM, UM, CHAIR, I WILL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS CASE. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, MR. ZAR? THANK YOU, JARED. I APPRECIATE THAT. I, I HONESTLY HERE COMMISSIONER COX'S FRUSTRATION WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I THINK IF YOU SEE THE MEMO FROM ROB SPILLER FROM THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE REASONING HERE WAS NOT THAT IT IS HARD TO MUNDANE OR VANDALISM. I'M GOING TO CODE EIGHT-NINE GENERALLY DOES NOT SUPPORT RESTRICTING OUR CLOSING PUBLIC STREETS. ONE SUCH MEASURES DO NOT IMPROVE SAFETY AND MOBILITY FOR THE GREATER PUBLIC, BUT I CAN STREET PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH CHOICES OF TRAVEL ROUTES, WHICH HELPS [04:30:01] REDUCE TRAVEL TIMES IN CONGESTION IN OUR SKIED NETWORK. I ALSO WANT TO QUOTE FROM ESN P WHICH THIS BODY PASSED EARLIER. MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY HERE WAS THERE A CONNECTED STREET, GOOD BENEFITS. OUR ABILITY TO GET AROUND BY MULTIPLE MODES OF THE CALC AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE AMONG OTHER THINGS WITHIN ONE OF THE LAND USE POLICIES, SMP STATES COMPETE. COMMUNITIES ARE PLACES WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK IS MADE UP OF LEADS. FLEET IS BASIS CONSISTS OF HIGHLY CONNECTED FEATS AND PEDESTRIAN PATH GROUPS NOW FOR MULTIPLE TRAVEL CHOICES. AND WHEN THE SUBMIT IN THE CITY'S OWN COMPLETE FEED PRINCIPLES, WHICH WERE ADOPTED, UM, A WHILE BACK, ONE OF THE PIECES IS THE REQUIRED CONNECTED TRAVEL NETWORK THAT COULD BE STREETS REQUIRE CONNECT WITH TRAVEL NETWORK RECITED BY THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AS WELL. AND THE COMPLETE STREETS PRINCIPLES ACTUALLY CAME FROM A NATIONWIDE CONVERSATION ON COMPLETE STREETS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY SAID THE BLEED STREETS IS AN APPROACH TO PLANNING, DESIGNING, AND BUILDING STREETS THAT ENABLE SAFE ACCESS FOR ALL USERS, INCLUDING PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, MOTORISTS IN TRANSIT FIGHTERS OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES. SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS, I THINK I HEAR COMMISSIONER COX'S FRUSTRATION. I THINK THIS CONVERSATION GOT CHIPPED AROUND TOO MUCH, BUT I THINK THERE ARE GOOD PLANNING PRINCIPLES AS WE'VE SEEN ELSEWHERE, INCLUDING AN ESN P WHICH BLOCK ABOUT MAINTAINING YOUR TRANSPORTATION GRID AND NOT BREAKING UP. RIGHT. SO WE NOW KNOW THAT CUL-DE-SACS ACTUALLY CAN CREATE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE DO NOT BE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS IN WERE IMPORTANT. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ON THIS IS I ALSO HEAR COMMISSIONER COX'S FRUSTRATION ON OVERTURNING A DECISION THAT HAD BEEN MADE BEFORE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY IT'S LINCOLN NOT BE CONSIDERED DECISIONS MADE 10 YEARS AGO THAT I THINK WE HAVE STAGNANT POLICY AND WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT ISSUES. OKAY. SO, UH, FISHER IS, ARE SPEAKING, UM, TO THIS MOTION. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION? COMMISSIONER COX? YEAH. I WANTED TO POINT OUT A, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM, ONE, THERE IS OTHER CITY PROPERTY, SIGNIFICANT CITY PROPERTY IN THIS AREA THAT IS GOING TO BE UP FOR REDEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE. AND IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE THIS EXACT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEGOTIATED THE LIMITED VEHICULAR ACCESS ON MORROW STREET. AND SO GUESS WHAT IF WE BLOW THIS UP, WHAT, WHAT IS THE POINT OF THEM EVEN ENGAGING IN THE PROCESS? WHY NOT JUST PUT MAXIMUM PRESSURE TO DENY WHATEVER ZONING THEY COME THAT THAT COMES BEFORE THEM FOR THESE FUTURE PARCELS INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING THEM TO PARTICIPATE AND TRY TO REACH CONSENSUS AND TRY TO BUILD A BETTER PROJECT. THE SECOND THING THAT I WILL POINT OUT IS WE HAD THAT EXACT SAME ISSUE WITH THE GROWTH THAT THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO BUS THROUGH TWO HOUSES CONNECT TO 45TH STREET. IT WAS A POINT OF HUGE CONTENTION WITH THE SEVEN NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, BUT I WAS HELPING TO LEAD TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE THAT ZONING KIDS. WE WERE TRYING TO GET IT SO THAT THE ACCESS FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE WOULD BE WIDE AND OPEN AND CONNECTED TO 45TH. BUT PEOPLE DID NOT BELIEVE THAT IF THOSE HOUSES CAME DOWN AND IF THERE WAS RIGHT OF WAY THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT EVENTUALLY BUST THROUGH AND BUILD THE ACCESS THAT THEY WANT BECAUSE ROB SPILLER WANTED THAT ACCESS AT THAT TIME. AND SO WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING WAS WE DEMANDED THAT THE HOUSES REMAIN AND ALL WE GOT WAS A TINY LITTLE CORRIDOR IN A TINY LITTLE SIDEWALK TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION BECAUSE WE DID NOT TRUST THE CITY TO ACTUALLY HONOR THE PROHIBITION OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC CONNECTING TO 40TH FIFTH STREET. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT I KNOW ABOUT THIS. I'VE BEEN INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THESE PROCESSES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE NEGOTIATIONS IN THE FUTURE ON THESE CITY TRACKS AROUND THIS RAIL STOP. AND IF WE MAKE, IF WE DO THIS ACTION, NOW, WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY JUST DESTROY ANY SORT OF TRUST BETWEEN THE CITY, THIS COMMISSION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AROUND THE, AROUND THIS PROPERTY. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. OKAY. UH, THOSE FACTS IN FAVOR, SPEAK, IT GETS ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DESIRE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. UM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A VOTE THAT'S UNDER DYESS IN SUPPORT TO, UH, THOSE LET'S SEE, LET ME COUNT. YOU HAVE 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4. UH, SO LET ME, SO THAT'S FOR THOSE, WITH THE RED, PLEASE KEEP YOUR CARDS UP NEXT. UH, OR, OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT, SO THAT I'M VOTING AGAINST IT AS WELL. SO THAT MOTION FAILS. IT'S UM, WE HAD, UH, [04:35:01] FOUR IN FAVOR AND THEN COMMISSIONER JONES, PLUTO, COMMISSIONER COX COMMISSIONER, UM, PRACTICES AND COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER AND COMMISSIONER SHAW VOTING AGAINST THAT ITEM. SO IT FAILS, UH, MOVING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO DENY, UM, THE ZONING REQUEST. UH, LET'S GO AND TAKE A D IN ANY MORE DISCUSSION SPEAKING PAR AGAINST COMMISSIONER CZAR. YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION? OKAY. YES, I DO. THANK YOU CHAIR. AGAIN. I JUST REALLY WANT TO STRESS LIKE PEER COMMISSIONER COX HAS CONVERSATION ABOUT BUILDING TRUST, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY WE, WE ARE THE CITY'S PLANNING COMMISSION. IT IS OUR JOB TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE GOOD PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND DEPLOY THEM AND WORK THEM OUT. TALK THE CITY. AND I KNOW IN MY YEARS OF SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION, I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THAT SOMETIMES BECAUSE YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PLANNING PRINCIPLES INTERACT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND IT MIGHT BE GOING BACK AND REDOING SOME THINGS DONE IN THE PAST, BUT REALLY HOPE THAT AT LEAST MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL CONSIDER SENDING THIS FORWARD AS A NO RECOMMENDATION TO NOT VOTE FOR THIS MOTION AND SEND JUST NO RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. THAT COUNCIL MAKE THE DECISION BECAUSE IT IS DADE WHO INITIATED THIS CHANGE WHILE ENSURING THAT WE MAINTAIN GOOD PLANNING PRINCIPLES. OKAY. UM, ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK, UH, FISHER THOMPSON? I'M GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST IT. I MEAN, I SEE WHEN I HEAR WORDS LIKE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, I, I HEAR IN MY MIND, I WANT TO PRIVATIZE THIS STREET. I WANT TO GATE MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND KEEP PUBLIC OUT OF MY STREET, BUT IT'S NOT YOUR STREET. IT'S A PUBLIC STREET. AND WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PARKING ON THE STREET IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, AGAIN, THEY'RE WANTING TO PRIVATIZE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC GOODS AND WE'RE IN A, UH, THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. WE'VE BEEN THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE UNITED STATES FOR PRETTY MUCH MY ENTIRE LIFE. AND IF PEOPLE MOVE TO AUSTIN AND THEY, THEY FORCE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. AND THEN THEY HAVE, UH, A STREET THAT NOW GETS MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC BECAUSE ALL THE, ALL THE PEOPLE HAVE TO DRIVE IN FROM THE SUBURBS THAT THEY'VE FORCED THEM TO. AND THEN THEY CLAIM THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE STREET NEEDS TO BE A QUIET PRIVATE CUL-DE-SAC. AND WE JUST CAN'T HAVE THAT. THAT'S NOT GOOD PLANNING THAT THAT CREATES, YOU KNOW, MORE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED. IT CREATES MORE CARBON, IT CREATES MORE, YOU KNOW, CLIMATE CHANGE. AND, AND THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IF SOMEONE NEGOTIATED SOMETHING 10 YEARS AGO, IT WAS THE WRONG NEGOTIATION. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE WON 10 YEARS AGO AND IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION. IT WAS THE WRONG DECISION. THEN IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION NOW. ALRIGHT. ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST? ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE, JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COX AND BY COMMISSIONER JADA'S PLAY-DOH TO DENY THE, UM, UH, REQUESTS. AND I'M GOING TO READ IT HERE, SORRY TO BELABOR THIS. UM, THIS IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING, UM, ON THE T A D N T I'LL JUST KEEP IT SHORT. SO DENIAL OF THAT REQUEST. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. UH, THOSE ON THE DAYAS, UH, THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THE DENIAL AND THOSE ON THE SPRAIN. JUST HOLD IT RIGHT THERE. OKAY. I'VE GOT OH, WORD. AND THEN WE GOT, OKAY. UM, VOTING IN ABSTENTION. SO THAT MOTION WE'VE GOT ONE THAT'S ON THE DIET'S VOTING AGAINST THE MOTION, I GUESS IT'S BUT, OKAY. SO THAT'S, UH, UH, 1, 2, 3, 4 AGAINST A THAT'S 1, 2, 3, A FAVOR, AND TWO ABSTAINING. SO THAT MOTION FAILS. UH, AND THE COUNT AGAIN WAS 3, 4, 2. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT. UM, MOVIE, I PUSHED THIS FORWARD WITH NO RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. UH, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. [04:40:01] LET'S SEE. IT IS 10 55. LET'S GET AFTER IT. LET'S SEE. IT'S NEXT ONE [B15. Site Plan - Compatibility Waiver Request: SP-2021-0102C - 1400 Cedar Ave; District 1] IS 15 FEET 15. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, STEPH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ZACH AUSTIN, AND I'M THE CASE MANAGER FOR SG 20 21 0 1 0 2 C OR 1400 CEDAR AVENUE. PROJECT IS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, AND IT'S ALSO LOCATED IN THE CHESTNUT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. THIS ITEM WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM AT THE APRIL 12TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND THE APPLICANT HAS MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO THEIR PROPOSED SITE PLAN BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY AT THAT MEETING. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS STILL PROPOSING TO REDEVELOP TWO LOTS WITH COMMERCIAL LAND USES THAT ARE ZONED CS, M U V CO NP INTO A SEVEN UNIT CONDOMINIUM RESIDENTIAL LAND USE WITH PARKING, MY PARKING AND PUBLIC SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM 25 TO 10 63, AND THE SITE IS SUBJECT TO A 25 FOOT COMPATIBILITY SETBACK. AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ENCROACHING INTO THAT TWENTY-FIVE FOOT SETBACK ON BOTH THE NORTH AND ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINES. SO THE WEST PROPERTY LINE OF BUTTS AND ALLIE WITH AN SF THREE PROPERTY WITH A FIVE FOOT REAR SETBACK ON OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ALLEY AND THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE BUTTS, A, UM, AN SF THREE PROPERTY WITH A FIVE FOOT INTERIOR SIDE YARD SETBACK. SO AS MENTIONED AFTER THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS DISCUSSION, THE APPLICANT IS NOW PROPOSING THE TWO UNITS ON THE NORTH SIDE TO BE SETBACK SEVEN FEET INSTEAD OF FIVE FEET FROM THE TRIGGERING NORTH PROPERTY LINE AND UNITS ON THE WESTERN SIDE TO BE SET BACK 18 FEET FROM THE TRIGGERING PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE. SO IF THIS, IF THIS WAIVER REQUEST IS APPROVED, IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE SITE LINES AT THE INTERSECTION OF 14TH STREET AND CEDAR AVENUE. AND FROM THE STANDPOINT OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACK, WAIVER REQUESTS, AND THE SITE COMPLIES WITH ALL OTHER COMPATIBILITY STANDARD REQUIREMENTS, SUCH AS LIGHTING AND SCREENING AND GROWING HEIGHTS. SO THAT'S IT FOR MY PRESENTATION. AND THANK YOU. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND YOUR CHAIR WILL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND THE SUAREZ YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THAT'S TRAVIS LUCY, THE ARCHITECT NOTED. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. UM, WELL, LET'S MAKE THIS QUICK. UM, SO THE SITE CURRENTLY AS IT SITS TODAY, UM, IT'S, IT'S HAD COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ON IT, UH, ACCORDING TO T CAD SINCE THE FIFTIES AND THE SEVENTIES, THESE TWO LOTS, UM, IT'S 98% PAVED, UM, OF THE FRONTAGE ALONG 14TH STREET AND CEDAR STREET, WE'VE GOT 70% OF IT IS A GIANT CURB CUT, BASICALLY, RIGHT, WITH A LOT OF HEAD IN, UH, PARKING THAT FORCES, UH, CARS TO BACK OUT AND MANEUVER IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND SO THAT'S JUST FOR CONTEXT, IT'S VACANT, UH, NO LONGER IN USE. MOST RECENTLY IT WAS A CUSTOM METAL FABRICATION SHOP, I BELIEVE. UM, AND YOU KNOW, SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO TAKE THAT AND TO GO TO RESIDENTIAL USE, IT'LL BE SEVEN SINGLE-FAMILY STYLE UNITS, UH, ATTACHED SEVEN FIVE ACROSS THE STREET FRONTAGE ON 14TH STREET, AND THEN TWO IN THE BACK AS A DUPLEX. UM, SOME OF THE FEATURES HERE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS C AS, AS ACCEPTED, UH, CSA ZONED. UM, WE'RE ABOUT 8,000 SQUARE FEET BELOW THE MAXIMUM FAR. UM, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER DENSITY, YOU KNOW, THAN, THAN COULD BE BUILT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS A AS COMPARED WITH, UH, SOME OF THE CS ACCEPTABLE ZONING USES THAT COULD BE HERE. THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S HOUSING FOR FAMILIES. IT'S A MUCH QUIETER, LOW INTENSITY KIND OF USE. UM, WE'RE ALSO REDUCING IMPERVIOUS COVER, AS I SAID, IT'S, IT'S PAVED A LOT AND WE'RE GOING TO DROP THAT BY ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FEET, NEARLY A QUARTER OF A LOT. UM, AND ALSO JUST TO THE POINT ABOUT THE CURB CUTS AND SO FORTH, THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD ABOUT JUST SORT OF THE AMOUNT OF CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC THEY GET ON CEDAR. UM, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, ALMOST ALL OF THIS LOT IS JUST A GIANT CURB CUT AS IT STANDS, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL OF THAT AND JUST CONCENTRATED ON A SINGLE 20 FOOT WIDE DRIVE, UH, THE SIZE OF COMMON TO CARS, SINGLE FAMILY DRIVEWAY. AND THAT'LL BE THE ONLY VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT, UM, AS WELL, THE, THE CURRENT SITE DOESN'T HAVE COMPLETE SIDEWALK, UH, AROUND ITS FRONTAGE, AND WE'RE GOING [04:45:01] TO FIX THAT, BUT SIDEWALKS OUT THERE, UM, FIVE OF OUR UNITS WALK OUT, YOU KNOW, THE DOORS ARE VISIBLE FROM 14TH STREET. WE HAVE FRONT YARD SPACE FRONTING ON THE STREET. IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ENHANCEMENT OVER WHAT'S THERE NOW. UM, SO IN SUMMARY, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IT, IT WASN'T THE FAVORITE IDEA FOR, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS, AND WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT BY PULLING IT AWAY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, ADDED A PARKING SPACE SINCE THEN, AS WELL, JUST TO TRY TO, AGAIN, TO, TO KIND OF BETTER ACCOMMODATE THEIR CONCERNS. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. SAVAGE, MS. SAVAGE. I HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU ALL FOR STAYING LATE. UM, MY NAME IS ZACH. NO, MY GOOD PROCEED. YES. MY NAME IS ZACH SAVAGE WITH ZACH SAVICH JONES. I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS COMPATIBILITY SETBACK VARIANCE. ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE CHOSEN TO BUILD THIS PROJECT ALONG WITH URBAN GRAVITY WAS BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN BUILDING AND JUST ON NEIGHBORHOODS SINCE 2007 MARKET RATE HOUSING OF ALL SIZES IS SOMETHING THAT AUSTIN NEEDS AS WELL AS DENSITY. THIS PROJECT HELPS ADDRESS BOTH OF THESE ISSUES DESPITE WHAT YOU, WHAT WE MAY HEAR TONIGHT OR WHAT WE MAY HAVE HEARD THIS PROJECT IS WELL THOUGHT OUT. THIS PROJECT HAS STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THIS PROJECT IS IN LIKE IN KIND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS PROJECT IS SAFE. IT IS ALSO MUCH LESS DENSE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE EXISTING ZONING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FOR MS. DONNA BOLLARD INSTALL, YOUR GEL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. HELLO. UH, THIS IS DONNA BALLIS. I'VE LIVED ON THIS STREET TWO DOORS DOWN FOR 21 YEARS, AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOT AT ALL A WIRED OR IDEA IN TERMS OF SHIFTING FROM COMMERCIAL TO A SEVEN UNIT CONDO BUILDING BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL WAS 21 YEARS AGO. IT WAS ONE COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND THEY DID AC REPAIR. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY STAYED IN BUSINESS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, THERE WAS A SINGLE BLACKSMITH WHO MOSTLY, MOSTLY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE SCIENCE COME THERE. SO I JUST WANT THE COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THIS BIGGER SCHEME, THIS IS REMARKABLY BUSIER. UM, A LOT MORE COMMOTION, A LOT MORE PEOPLE, A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAN ANYTHING I'D SEEN IN MORE THAN TWO DECADES. SO THE REAL BIG ISSUE IS WE HAVE NO FOUR WASTE STOPS AT THIS SITE. THERE'S NO SPEED BUMPS ON THE STREET. AND IT'S A PRIMARY ARTERY EAST OF PLEASANT VALLEY. THERE'S NO BIKE LANE, ALL A BITCH. MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS ASKED FOR AGAIN FOR MORE DECADES THAN I'VE EVEN BEEN HERE. SO IT'S ALREADY A VERY PRECARIOUS STREET. AND YOU ADD THAT WITH THE FACT THAT LITERALLY THE NEXT BLOCK, LIKE THERE'S THE 14TH STREET. AND THEN AT 16TH STREET, THE VERY NEXT BLOCK, THE CHILDREN FROM KEELING JUNIOR HIGH, THE CHILDREN FROM THE CALLUM HIGH WAIT FOR THE, UM, IN THE MORNING ARE DROPPED OFF IN THE AFTERNOON. AND WE'LL BE WALKING BY A NEW STRUCTURE THAT NOW HAS WHAT COUPLE DOZEN PEOPLE AND THEIR CARS AND THEIR GUESTS, AND ONE ENTRANCE AND EXIT. ADDITIONALLY CAMPBELL ELEMENTARY, THEY WALKED PAST 1400 CEDAR AVENUE IN THE MORNING. AND IN THE AFTERNOON, THE STUDENTS WHO ARE ENROLLED IN AND RICHARD ACTUALLY WEIGHED AT CAMPBELL ELEMENTARY FOR THEIR BUSES. SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE CHILDREN, YOU HAVE ELDERLY RESIDENTS UP AND DOWN THIS STREET THAT WILL LITERALLY BECOME, YOU KNOW, DOES SO MUCH BUSIER THAN ANYTHING THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS SEEN IN THE DECADES THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. [04:50:01] UM, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO FIT HER, LIKE WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY DID IT DO COMMERCIAL, BUT THE THING IS THEY DIDN'T ASK THAT THEY DIDN'T ASK US PRIOR TO DEVELOPING THE PLAN. AND THEN WHEN WE MET WITH THEM AFTER THEY DEVELOPED THE PLAN AND WE TOLD THEM, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT FAITH, IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT PART OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OKAY. I'M SORRY. WE'RE AT A TIME YOU'VE GOT THIS FIVE MINUTES. I'M SORRY. YOU COULDN'T HEAR THE BUZZER, BUT WE NEED TO GO. DO YOU WANT TO WRAP UP YOUR STATEMENTS? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE'VE ADVOCATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EACH OF THESE SEVEN UNITS IS ESTIMATED TO BE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. OKAY. THANK YOU, CHERYL. AND I'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. OKAY. SO REALLY QUICKLY. UM, I PERSONALLY ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC ISSUE. I AM, I'VE MADE A SERIES OF PHONE CALLS MYSELF FOR A FOUR WAY STOP NEAR MY HOUSE. UM, AND, UH, AND I GET THAT, UM, AGAIN, UH, IT'S HARD TO BEAT A VACANT LOT FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT. UM, AND SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING HERE, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE WAY THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS IS THE MOST RESPONSIBLE AND CAREFUL WAY, UH, TO HANDLE IT. UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND SO FORTH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS A MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A VARYING UNIT SIZES. WE'VE GOT SOME AS SMALL AS 1600 AND THEN THEY RANGE UP TO 2100, IT'LL ACCOMMODATE A RANGE OF DIFFERENT FAMILY GROUPS OR OCCUPANTS. AND, UH, OVERALL WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF IT. AND WE HOPE THAT WE WILL HAVE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SURE. THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD. UH, DO I HAVE MUCH IN THE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC? ALL RIGHT. A SNYDER IS SECONDED BY, UM, VENTURE. IT'S OUR, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE DYESS FAVOR AND, UM, THE SCREEN. UH I'LL OKAY. IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, QUESTIONS. SURE. IT CUTS, UM, THE OBLIGATORY COMMISSIONER COX QUESTIONS, A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE, SO I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY SORT OF LIKE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES OR THIS WAKEFERN. UM, IT'S MORE OR LESS JUST TRYING TO GET THEM TO FIT, WHICH THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS THEY WANT TO PUT ON THIS LOT. SO, I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT GENERALLY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE NO BUILD STEP BACKS SHOULD BE WAIVED IN THIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE ENTIRE CITY, OR, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON GENERALLY SPEAKING STAFF RECOMMENDS WE'RE COMPATIBILITY WAIVERS FOR THINGS LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IN OUR VIEWS, THIS IS REC YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT IS TAKING STEPS TOWARD, TOWARD PROVIDING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. AND SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, YES, GENERALLY SET BACK AS IN SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR US, NOT TO MENTION WHEN I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED A FEW TIMES DURING THE PRESENTATIONS, BUT THE UNDERLYING ZONING OR THE BASE ZONING FOR THE SITE IS GREAT. ME. UH, THIS IS GREATLY UNDERBUILT FOR THE ZONING TO, AND SO IS THAT, IS THAT KIND OF LIKE JUST AN UNWRITTEN RULE AT DSD THAT IF IT, IF, IF SETBACKS IMPEDE UNIT COUNT THAT THE DEVELOPER, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING, THEN YOU ALL GRANT A WAIVER. YEAH, NO. UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, WE LOOK AT EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY, WE LOOK AT THE CONTEXT FOR EACH ONE. AND AS I MENTIONED, THE FACT THAT MORE UNITS ARE BEING PROPOSED HERE. THAT'S NOT THE GUIDING REASON FOR WHY WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL, IT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THE BASE ZONING, IT IS SO MUCH LESS RESTRICTIVE. AND THERE, YOU KNOW, BY CODE BUILDING, UM, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CODES THEY ARE UNDER BUILDING SET WHERE THE COMPATIBILITY, UM, RESTRICTIONS. [04:55:02] AND FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE SEE THESE KINDS OF USES ARE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT MANY OF THE HOMES IN THE AREA OF SIMILAR SETBACKS, AS WELL AS THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, MULTIPLE UNITS ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. RIGHT. JUST SOME QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS. OH YES. UH, WE HAVE OUR EX-OFFICIO CHAIR COLON, SORRY. I'M A LITTLE NEW HERE. CAN, CAN STAFF, OR MAYBE SOMEBODY TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT CAN BE BUILT CURRENTLY WITH THE ZONING THAT IT HAS JUST, JUST CURIOUS. SO IF YOU GO TO IT'S PAGE TWO OF THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS, SO, UM, ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY. SO IT'S CURRENTLY, AS I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION, C S IN U V C O M P. SO IT'S BEEN ZONED TWICE, ONCE IN 2000, AGAIN, IN 2009, IN 2000, IT GOT BUMPED UP TO MIXED USE. AND THEN IN 2009, IT GOT, UH, FURTHER, UM, FURTHER UP ZONING, WHICH REZONING CHANGED THE ZONING TO ADD THE VERTICAL MIXED USE COMPONENT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MORE INTENSE USE IN, IN, UH, BASED ON HIM. CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES? IT'S UM, GENERAL COMMERCIAL SERVICES IS WHAT THE UNDERLYING, THE BASED ON ESCS MAKES USE. IT COULD BE HOUSING. IT COULD BE, UM, A VARIETY OF TYPES OF, OF, UM, MARSHALL SERVICES. AND IT'S, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, POTENTIAL EXCUSES, BUT IT IS MIXED USE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. THEN IF THE ZONING REQUEST ISN'T GRANTED, WHAT KIND OF THINGS MIGHT YOU GUYS PUT THERE, IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT? JUST CURIOUS. HELLO, THANKS AGAIN FOR STAYING SO LATE. UM, SO YES, IT'S A ZONING WAIT FOR, I GUESS, CAUSE IT'S THE COMPATIBILITY. IT'S NOT THE USE. THE USE IS ALLOWED. UM, IF THIS WASN'T GRANTED THE SIDE WOULD BE REDUCED TO BUILD ONLY ON LIKE A VERY SMALL CORNER OF THE NON EVEN ONE UNIT COULD FIT MAYBE ONE UNIT AT THE MOST. IT WOULD BASICALLY KILL THE PROJECT. SCOTT, SORRY, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. OH, IT'S AN ELECTION JUDGE. I'M REALLY TIRED. OKAY. UM, INITIAL QUESTIONS UP STAFF HAS, UH, HAD YOUR HAND UP. DO YOU NEED, DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A ZONING. ANYTHING RELATED TO ZONING, THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS ALREADY SET. THIS IS A COMPATIBILITY WAIVER. SO UNDERLYING ZONING ALLOWS MORE TO BE TAUGHT. THE THING THAT'S CONSTRAINING THIS PROJECT IS THE COMPATIBILITY REGULATIONS, WHICH IS THE WAIVER THAT, THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. OKAY. ASSESS SOMEBODY TO STAND UP. COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. UH, SO A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SET, THE NEW SETBACKS. UM, SO STARTING AT 14TH STREET IS THE, THE SIDE WITH FIVE UNITS. AND THEN THERE'S SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THAT. AND THE TWO BACK UNITS IS THAT 25 FEET DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE, THE GAP ACCOMMODATES, THE DRIVEWAY THAT, THAT YOU USE TO ACCESS ALL OF THE PRIVATE GARAGES THAT THESE UNITS HAVE. AND SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE MINIMUM WITH THAT. WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THERE IN ORDER FOR THE VEHICLES TO NEGOTIATE BACKING AND ACCESSING GARAGE. IS THAT 25 FEET? IT IS. LET ME THINK ABOUT THAT. 28, UH, PRETTY CLOSE. THE, THE DRIVE ITSELF IS 20 AND THEN THEY HAVE LITTLE FOUR-FOOT APRONS. OKAY. THANKS. UM, SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I JUST HAVE LIMITED TIME. SO THEN THE BACK OF THE TWO UNITS, UH, IS THAT WHERE THE ALLEY IS OR IS THAT DIRECTLY ONTO THE NEXT PROPERTY? THAT IS THE NEXT PROPERTY AND WHERE THERE ARE TWO UNITS OR SEVEN FEET AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE. THE ALLEY IS TO THE WEST, UH, TO THE, AND SO THEN ONCE YOU CROSS THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE NORTH, HOW, HOW MANY FEET IS IT UNTIL YOU GET TO THE NEXT HOUSE? [05:00:01] THEY, ACCORDING TO THEIR ZONING S HAVE THREE, THEY HAVE A FIVE FOOT SETBACK AND IT, THE HOUSE APPEARS TO BE BUILT RIGHT ONTO THE SETBACK MORE OR LESS. SO, UM, I KNOW IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN RAISING THIS ISSUE. AND I ULTIMATELY, I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE PROJECT OVERALL, BUT IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE UNFAIR THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY TO HAVE 12 FEET BETWEEN THE BACK OF YOUR UNITS AND THE NEXT HOUSE, BUT HAVE 25 FEET BETWEEN YOUR TWO UNITS AND YOUR FIVE UNITS. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU NEED THE WIDTH, BUT IT JUST SORT OF STRIKES ME AS UNFAIR. I SEE. I I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, I MEAN, THIS IS, SO OUR DEVELOPMENT IS SF FIVE IN CHARACTER SFI. TYPICALLY DOESN'T TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY. WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THAT LDC TELLS YOU, YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO CHOOSE COMPATIBILITY OR YOU'VE GOT TO CHOOSE MCMANSION. RIGHT? AND SO FOR US COMPATIBILITY IS WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE AND COMPATIBILITY HEIGHTS. IT SETBACKS TO SOMEWHAT OF A BLUNT INSTRUMENT. I MEAN, IT IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING FROM THE IMPACT OF SAY A BEST BUY OR AN AUTO SHOP, OR YOU NAME IT RIGHT, AND A NOISY NIGHTCLUB. AND THIS IS HOUSING. THAT'S A DUPLEX RIGHT THERE THAT IS WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT SEVEN FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE. NOT ONLY THAT IT'S SHORTER THAN WHAT MCMANSION WOULD ALLOW MCMANSION WOULD ALLOW US TO GO TO 32 FEET. WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THIS AT 30, UM, WHERE THIS IS NOT, IT'S NOT OUT OF CHARACTER FOR WHAT YOU WOULD SEE GOING ALL UP AND DOWN THESE STREETS WITH HOUSES, FIVE FEET OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN THE NEXT HOUSE, FIVE FEET OFF OF ITS PROPERTY LINE, 10 FEET AWAY. THIS IS A DUPLEX SEVEN FEET OFF A LINE NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, FIVE FEET OFF THE LINE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I HEAR YOU. IT JUST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOVELY 20, 28 FOOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIVE UNITS AND MATERIAL UNITS AND THEN 12 FEET BEHIND THAT. WE DID THAT. I PURSUE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, HOWEVER SURE. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE CHAIR. OKAY. UM, MOVING ALONG ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER PRAXIS. YEAH. UM, MY QUESTION WAS FOR THE LAST SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION, IF SHE'S STILL AROUND, I'M SORRY TO CATCH FROM MAINE. UM, OKAY, GREAT. UM, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, AFFORDABILITY, UM, PLANS OR REQUESTS AND, UM, THAT YOU HAD ESTIMATED A CERTAIN, UM, OH 1 MILLION. OR COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT LAST COMMENT YOU MADE? I WAS REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. SURE, SURE. SO, YOU KNOW, IN A WHOLE COMMITTEE, SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHO TOLD ME WHAT, BUT THE LAST ESTIMATE, THEY WERE LIKE 764,000 SOME PAIN. UM, AND THAT WAS MAYBE A YEAR AGO IN SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS OF WHAT THEY WOULD SELL FOR. AND SO JUST GIVEN HOW ASSET PRICES HAVE RISEN IN OUR AREA, YOU KNOW, NO ONE, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S POINT TO, UM, IT WON'T BE AFFORDABLE FOR THAT SORT OF MIDDLE, WHATEVER THAT TERM IS THAT WE LIKE THAT KIND OF MAGICAL MIDDLE SPACE IT'S TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GET, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN A YEAR OUT WOULD BE A LOT MORE THAN WHAT IT WAS. AND WE ALSO, I HAVE TO SAY, WE DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE THE THINGS THAT THE LAST AND WAS ASKING THE HOUSES ARE JUST RIGHT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. AND WE FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE. I MEAN, IT'S NOT OUR JOB THAT SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO PAY THAT MUCH TO LIVE IN SUCH A REALLY CLOSE QUARTERS. OKAY. OKAY. I THINK WE'RE DEVIATING FROM THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED. SO I DON'T SEE A CONDITIONER PRICES ON THE LINE RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, UH, OKAY. SO COMMISSIONERS WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER IS OUR, IF I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT THE SAME QUESTION, I KNOW THIS IS EARLY IN THE PROCESS, BUT DO THEY HAVE ANY, UM, UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT PRICE, UH, LEVELS THEY MIGHT BE CONSIDERING WITH THESE BARBECUES? THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION. UM, AS FAR AS CURRENT [05:05:01] PRICING, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY STUDIES RECENTLY, BUT IT'LL BE MARKET, RIGHT. UH, I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT 764,000 COME OUT FROM, I GUESS, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS. UM, I'M SURE IT'D BE SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE, BUT, UM, I REPRESENT THE BUILDER. I DON'T REPRESENT THE LANDOWNER. UM, SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT IT'LL SELL FOR. UH, I DON'T HAVE THOSE FIGURES IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT WILL BE MARKET RATE. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT IT MIGHT BE WHAT WAS JUST SHARED IN TERMS OF VALUE, BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IT'S APPRAISED AT 937,000, THAT'S APPRAISED, NOT THE SALE VALUE. SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT THE SALE VALUE OF JUST THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IT'S OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, EVEN SOMETHING OF THAT 700 RANGE. AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY WOULD ACTUALLY BE RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHAT IS BEING DEVELOPED THERE BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF, UM, INSTRUCTION THAT THIS IS WELL, AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT THE HOUSE ARE OUR PRODUCT. THE DUPLEX IS A, IS A, IS A RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT AND IT HAS A FURTHER SETBACK OF SEVEN FEET THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED NEXT DOOR, FIVE FEET. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, JUDGE. OKAY. JUST FINAL QUESTIONS. WE'RE AT A, OKAY. I'M LOOKING AT A FINISHER COX. GO AHEAD. OH, WELL YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE TIME LEFT. UM, LET ME, HOLD ON. LET ME, UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION I'M GOING TO ASK MYSELF AND IS, SO THIS HAS A V AND STAFF. WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT, THAT WAS ADDED LATER? AND WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE V UH, THAT'S WHERE I CHAIR IT. YEAH. SO IN 2009, ANOTHER ORDINANCE WAS PASSED THAT REZONE AND CHANGED THE ZONING, UM, TO ADD VERTICAL MIXED USE TO, TO ADD THIS PROPERTY OR THESE TWO PROPERTIES AS TWO LOTS, TWO, A VERTICAL MIXED USE COMBINED WITH DISTRICT. AND SO WHAT DOES THAT ALLOW THEM TO HAPPEN? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IT HAD. IT COULD, IT COULD, UM, IT COULD ACCESS A VERTICAL MIX, USE VIETNAM, BELARUS. OKAY. AND SO, UH, SO THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE THE ONES THAT APPLIED FOR THE V, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT WE HAVE A B DESIGNATION, BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT. THIS IS A 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT. IT'S JUST OVER A QUARTER ACRE AND ON SUCH A SMALL FOOTPRINT WITH COMPATIBILITY COMING IN FROM TWO SIDES, THE BUILDABLE AREA IS TINY. UH, THE ONLY WAY OUT OF IT IS POTENTIALLY AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, BUT EVEN THEN WHEN YOU'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE ENTIRE FOOTPRINT OF THE SITE, IT'S INCREDIBLY HARD TO GET SOME KIND OF EFFICIENT LAYOUT THERE. AND WITH AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE 60 FEET TALL, LIKE SOMEWHAT OF A TOWER, KIND OF A TYPOLOGY HERE IN THIS, PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY DOMINANT RENT A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE FEEL LIKE OURS IS THE BEST BLEND OF SORT OF UTILIZING A DENSE APPROACH, BUT ONE THAT IS STILL IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDINGS. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND, UH, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER COX, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT WELL, HOLD ON. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS? UH, AND ACTUALLY I WOULD LIKE IF YOU REALLY, IF IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ADD SOME MORE INFORMATION, CAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME AND IT'S GETTING LATE. SO, UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS I'LL AFFORD YOU? ONE MORE QUESTION, MR. COX, IF YOU HAVE A QUEUED UP, IT WAS JUST BASED ON SOMETHING THAT I HEARD BEFORE THEY, I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS SETBACK, SOMETHING LIKE ONLY ONE MASSIVE UNIT COULD BE BUILT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN AND ISN'T THIS REALLY A DECISION BETWEEN FIVE UNITS OR FOUR UNITS AND SIX UNITS. I MEAN, ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE KIND OF DECIDING HERE, WHO IS YOUR QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. I HEARD THE SAME AS YOU THAT THEY CAN ONLY PUT ONE UNIT ON THE PROPERTY IF THEY DIDN'T GET THIS. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. IT LOOKS LIKE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FIVE UNITS AND SEVEN UNITS, BECAUSE THE SETBACK ONLY AFFECTS THE TWO UNITS ON A, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NORTH OR WHATEVER, GETTING CLARIFICATION. AND THEN IT'S THE SETBACKS. THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACKS ARE NOT BEING WAIVED. JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE STILL ARE LOSING SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND THE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES ON THOSE UNITS THAT ARE TO THE NORTH. AND THEN ALSO TWO STORIES ON THE TWO UNITS TO THE WEST ON, ALONG THE 14TH STREET FRONTAGE. AND THE, THE, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT AT FIVE UNITS, UH, OUR CLIENT HAS [05:10:01] SAID THAT THE PROJECT NO LONGER WORKS. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND IT WOULD BE ABANDONED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SIDE OF UM, SO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, YOU HAVE A SECOND FOR MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER IS, ARE, I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, MR. ANDERSON, BRIEFLY, AND THEN EXTEND THE MEETING, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOO BAD. WE JUST HAVE A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT DOESN'T HAVE MISSING MENTAL HOUSING. AND WE HAVE THIS THING IN THERE CALLED COMPATIBILITY. THAT FOR INSTANCE, ON THIS SITE SAYS, HOUSING IS NOW INCOMPATIBLE WITH HOUSING. AND I JUST DISAGREE WITH THAT. I WENT TO THE SITE, I VISITED A BIT, UM, THE HOUSE ON THE NORTH SIDE IS BY FEET OFF AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEVEN FEET OFF. SO 40% GREATER. AND IT'S A DUPLEX, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMMERCIAL SERVICES. IT'S A, IT'S A COMMERCIAL SITE. IT'S A VACANT BUILDING. IT'S MOSTLY PAVED. YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO JUST LIMIT THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS IN THE, WITH THE GOAL OF INCREASING THE COST OF EACH REMAINING UNIT, OR JUST WATCH SOMETHING ELSE, GET BUILT HERE ENTIRELY, OR JUST WATCH IT STAY VACANT, THEN WE CAN SAY COMPATIBILITY AT THE EXPENSE OF EVERYTHING ELSE IS WORTH IT. BUT EVENTUALLY AS A CITY, HOPEFULLY WE STOPPED DOING THAT BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN US IN A LOT OF TROUBLE SO FAR. ALL RIGHT. UH, SPEAKING AGAINST THE SPEAKING OF PAPER. SO I WILL, I WILL JUST MAKE A VERY QUICK COMMENT TO SAY THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PLACE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS COMPATIBILITY AND NOT WHAT IS FACEBOOK COMPATIBILITY WITHIN OUR CODE AND WITHIN OUR CITY? UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE, HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT A DUPLEX NEXT DOOR, A DOWN-HOME DOWN-HOME NEXT DOOR TO A SINGLE FAMILY IS INCOMPATIBLE. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S, WE'RE PLANNING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FITS THE KIND OF PLAN PRINCIPLES THAT WE WANT TO GO FOR BECAUSE WE'RE SETTING A REQUIREMENT FOR A SIMILAR TYPE OF STRUCTURE AND A SIMILAR TYPE OF LIVING UNIT, MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT'S ZONE IN THE WAY. SO I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING FOUR AGAINST FOUR, WE TAKE SURE. I MOVED TO EXTEND TIME AND THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. TILL WHAT'S YOUR TILL WHAT TIME? 11 40 11 40. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO HUSTLE HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO REAL QUICK, LET'S GO AND TAKE A VOTE SHOULD 1140 THOSE IN THE DIOCESE AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN UNANIMOUS. SO WE'RE MOVING TO 1140, UH, COMMISSIONER COPPS. I THINK YOU WERE GETTING READY TO SAY SOMETHING. I WAS GOING TO EXTEND TIME. OKAY. I WILL, I WILL JUST SAY ONE THING REAL QUICK. I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD APPROVE OF A WAIVER HERE AND THEN, AND THEN NOT JUST HAVE THAT BE BASICALLY A BLANKET WAIVER FOR ALL SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY UNIQUENESS TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND, OR ANY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. SO I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE TO TRY TO, TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS DESERVING OF A WAIVER, UH, BUT NOT JUST EVERY OTHER PROJECT LIKE THIS IN THE CITY. UM, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M STRUGGLING. OKAY. ANY MORE? I WAS FINE TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD. AND, UH, SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS COMMISSIONER ANDERSON SAYING, SURE, PLEASE GO AHEAD. I JUST I'M NEUTRAL LEANING AGAINST, BUT I'M JUST, I JUST WANT TO CITE THE PROBLEMATIC NATURE OF MISSING MIDDLE BEING PROPOSED IN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 750 TO A MILLION DOLLARS PER UNIT. UM, AND I DEFINITELY SEE THE MERITS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AS IT STANDS ALONE. I ALSO LIKE TO SEE PROJECTS THAT CAN ACTUALLY ABSORB AND CAPTURE MORE OF THE REVENUE THAT'S BEING MADE ON THESE DEALS IN MAINTAINING SOME OF THE ACTUAL, UH, AFFORDABILITY LEVELS IN THE AREA. SO I KNOW THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN NEGOTIATE HERE, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY WITH CURRENT, WITH THE CURRENT CODE OPTIONS. BUT, UM, I JUST, I HAVE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR MISSING MIDDLE AND I HEAR SOMETHING 50 TO A MILLION PER UNIT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, I THINK WE NEED TO PAUSE AND REFLECT THEM WHAT THAT MEANS. OKAY. ANY MORE FOLKS WANT TO SPEAK FOUR AGAINST FOUR? WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS ITEM, WHICH AGAIN, IT'S A TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS TO APPROVE THE, UH, UM, THE WA UH, HAD ABILITY WAIVER REQUESTED. ALL RIGHT, LET'S [05:15:01] GO AND TAKE A VOTE. UM, THOSE ON THE DIOCESE, THAT'S THREE. AND NOW THOSE ON THE SCREEN, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR. SO WE'VE GOT, LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT THREE AND THEN COMMISSIONER COX IS AT GREENER. IT LOOKS GREEN TO ME OR YELLOW. YELLOW. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT PASS. SO ANY OTHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO. SO, UH, ARE WE, DOES THIS, THIS, DOES IT GO TO COUNCIL? DOES IT? IT DOES. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SHALL WE GET CONFIRMATION FROM A STAFF ON WHETHER IT GOES TO COUNCIL, MR. LOFTON, ARE YOU STILL PRESENT? YES, IT DOES NOT GO TO COUNCIL. YEAH. I THOUGHT THIS BUCK STOPS HERE. THEN I MOVED TO POSTPONE TO THE NEXT MEETING. SO WE WANT TO PUT, UH, A PC POSTPONEMENT. UM, OKAY. SO I GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COX. UH, I THINK I SAW YOUR HEAD FIRST. SO, UH, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? WE'RE DOWN A LOT OF MEMBERS IT'S LATE AND LET'S JUST LOOK AT IT AGAIN INSTEAD OF KILLING HOUSING. UH, OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER COX, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT OR LET'S VOTE. I LOVE MORE TIME TO, TO BE CONVINCED THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND SO, AND WHEN DO WE TAKE THIS UP? CAUSE WE'VE GOT A LONG MONTH, RIGHT? A COMMISSIONER. WHAT DATE IS THIS GOING TO COME UP NEXT MEETING NEXT MEETING. OKAY. WHICH IS, WELL, WE'LL GET THE DATE LATER, BUT IT'S THE NEXT MEETING? JUNE 14TH. ALL RIGHT. SO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, DID WE GET A SECOND VICE MINISTER COX, AND THEN LET'S GO AND VOTE ON POSTPONING TO JUNE 14TH. UH, THOSE ON THE BIAS AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN. OKAY. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. NOW IF WE CAN, OH, GO AHEAD. I KNOW WHY YOU WENT FOR THE WAIVER, BUT IT'S, IT DOESN'T WORK OUT ICR CHIP. AND THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT IT. SURE. COMMISSIONER LIAISON AND BIRD. NOW, IF WE COULD JUST DO A STEP OF, UM, RECONSIDERING, THE PUBLIC HEARING POSTPONE THE PUBLIC HEARING JULY TO JUNE 14TH. UH, I'M SORRY. THAT'S A, YES, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON, UH, SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. WE'RE CONSIDERING POSTPONING THE PUBLIC HERE UNTIL JUNE 14TH. UH, GO AHEAD. FINISH YOUR CUPS. I WAS SECOND IN COMMISSIONERS AS ART'S MOTION TO DO THAT. OKAY. SO IT'S COMMISSIONER, SORRY. I'M LOSING TRACK HERE. DESIRE. I MADE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL WHEN IS THE PUBLIC HEARING? I THOUGHT PER STATE LAW, ANYTIME THERE'S AN ITEM ON AN AGENDA, THERE'S AUTOMATICALLY A PUBLIC HEARING. IF IT'S POSTED FOR ACTION, CHOKE HIM AND SHOWING HIM WHEN HE'S ON ANDOVER. THAT IS CORRECT. HOWEVER, UM, WITH A NOTIFICATION YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO RE NOTIFY IF YOU POSTPONE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A DATE CERTAIN. OKAY. SO WE DON'T NEED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING YOU DO. I J I'M MAKING A MOTION TO OPEN A, DO RECONSIDER, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR JUNE 14TH IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS CASE AT THAT TIME. OKAY. SO A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COPS, LET'S GO AND VOTE ON THAT. UM, AND THOSE ON THE DIOCESE AND IT'S EVERYONE AND THOSE ON SCREEN. OKAY. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. SO WE'VE, DID WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT WHEN FAVOR OF STAFF, IF WE CAN MAKE THIS LIKE ITEM ONE OR TWO, THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOOD, MR. RIVERA. THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICANT STAYING LATE AND CAUSE SHE HAD QUESTIONS. OKAY. A COMMISSIONER IS HARD. UM, CHERRY, I DON'T KNOW IF ONE OF MY COMMISSIONERS WAS EARLIER RECONSIDERING, RIVERSIDE, 2030, OR RECITE AGAIN. UM, I JUST WANT HER TO BRING THAT UP. YES. MA'AM IT'S FAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SORRY. [B10. Rezoning: C14-2022-0038 - 2320 E Riverside Dr; District 3 (Part 2 of 2)] UH, YES. I'D LIKE TO REMOVE, TO RECONSIDER BE 10 ON RIVERSIDE. OKAY. SO, UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT VOTED AGAINST, SO THAT'S RECONSIDERATION. SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT FIRST OPENED UP THE DOOR FOR US [05:20:01] TO THEN I GUESS, PROPOSE THAT ANOTHER EMOTION. SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE RECONSIDERATION, UH, COMMISSIONER COX, SECOND SET. DO WE NEED TO SPEAK TO THIS OR CAN WE MOVE FORWARD? OKAY, LET'S GO AND MOVE FORWARD. UH, IN FAVOR OF THAT RECONSIDERATION ON THE DIETS, THAT'S EVERYONE AND THOSE, UM, FOR VOTING AND FOR THE RECONSIDERATION. I SEE COMMISSIONER PRACTICES. THAT'S YELLOW, CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT'S A PASSES EIGHT ZERO TO ONE WITH THE COMMISSIONER PRACTICES STAINING. UH, LET'S GO AHEAD. AND, UH, WHAT DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? UH, COMMISSIONER. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YEAH, SURE. WHATEVER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PROCEDURALLY IT'S CORRECT, BUT I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO POSTPONE, UM, THIS ITEM, UM, IN ORDER TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, DISPLACEMENT OF CRITICAL SERVICES AND OTHER NEEDS IN THAT COMMUNITY. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COX. UM, WE NEED ANY DISCUSSION. COULD WE MOVE FORWARD? UM, DISCUSSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE APPLICANT HERE, CAN WE HEAR THE APPLICANTS WANTING TO POSTPONE OR, AND I'LL JUST KNOW IF WE HAVE FOUR MINUTES, SO WE WILL NEED TO EXTEND TIME IF WE, YOU KNOW, THIS WON'T TAKE A SECOND. RICHARD SETTLE UP, ACTUALLY GOT HOME, GOT IN BED AND, AND MADE IT BACK. UM, WE DON'T WANT TO POSTPONEMENT, UM, YOU ALL HAD A VOTE FAIR AND SQUARE AND WE WERE WILLING TO LIVE WITH THAT. THERE'S I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS PART OF THE ZONING CASE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO RETENANTING AND TALKING TO TENANTS AND ALL AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS. UM, AND I Y'ALL ARE SO BUSY AND UP HERE SO LATE. I HOPE YOU WOULD JUST KICK US LOOSE, BUT I WOULD PREFER A RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, UH, WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT, BUT, UH, GO AHEAD. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE ONLY TENANT THAT YOU'D BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE VACANT POPEYE'S CHICKEN, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER. IT'S JUST THE VACANT POPEYE'S I THINK. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER ZAR. YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE MOTION. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M SPEAKING TO THE MOTION. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE MOTION OF THE DEVIL WAS, BUT I AM JUST MAKING A MOTION TO EXTEND OUR TIME TO, UM, 1150. ALL RIGHT. UH, OKAY. WE'RE TRYING TO, THAT'S ON THE DI'S FAVORITE 1150 AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN IN FAVOR OF 1150. ALL RIGHT. CONVENTIONAL PRACTICES. UM, ALL RIGHT. WE GOT EVERYBODY IT'S ANONYMOUS FOR THE SCHEDULE OF 50. LET'S TRY IT. SO WHAT'S THE EMOTION ON THE TABLE QUICKLY. POSTPONE IT TILL THE NEXT MEETING. JUNE 14TH THAT'LL WORK. ALL RIGHT. AND IT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COX. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT. UH, SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE. UM, MR. ANDERSON, DO YOU, YOU GOOD, OR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, REMEMBER WE GONNA SPEAK YET? YOU CAN'T OKAY. MR. ANDERSON, DO YOU SPEAK IN A PAPER? NO. NO. OKAY. SOMEONE ELSE AGAIN? I DON'T THINK A COMMISSIONER IS, UM, AZHAR YOU WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. I JUST REALLY WANT TO TACK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR CONSIDERING AND BEING FLEXIBLE OF MY INTEGRAL UNAVAILABILITY AT THAT TIME. I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMPANY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. OKAY. SPEAKING AGAINST THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE VACANT POPEYE'S AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A REZONING ON A TRANSIT LINE AND IT'S THE BEST DENSITY BONUS WE HAVE IN THAT AREA AND EXCITED TO HOPEFULLY SUPPORT IT. UH, COMMISSIONER COX, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, I THINK THE DECISION WE'RE MAKING RIGHT NOW IS BETWEEN A POSTPONEMENT OR NO RECOMMENDATION AT ALL. SO I JUST WANT, I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THE TWO OPTIONS ARE AT THIS POINT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO. UH, THIS IS THE MOTION BY PATRICIA SPOLETO OWN TILL JUNE 14TH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COX. LET'S GO AND TAKE A VOTE. THAT'S ON THE DYESS. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN IN FAVOR. OKAY. SO WE ARE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. THAT MOTION DOES NOT PASS. SO I THINK WE WILL HAVE NO RECOMMENDATION. ALL RIGHT. JEREMY MOVE APPROVAL. [05:25:01] I'M SORRY. APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WE LOST ONE, TWO. NO, I THINK ME AS LONG AS CORUM. OH, WE HAVE BREAD. WE DO HAVE A FORUM. OKAY. SO WE'RE, YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO MOVE ON FOR RECONSIDER RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. SO WE CAN DO THAT. UM, NOW WE'RE LOSING FOLKS. WE HAVE A QUORUM ISSUE. HOLD ON. FOLKS. WE NEED FOLKS TO COME BACK SO WE CAN FINISH THIS AT, LET'S SAY I, I HAVE, UH, AN ISSUE WITH MOVING APPROVAL ON THIS. I, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE COMMISSION IS GAMING PEOPLE MOVING FORWARD AND LEAVING, UM, PEOPLE COMING ON AND OFF THE DIVE. SO I'M TRYING TO TIME THINGS WHERE WE GET JUST THE RIGHT NUMBER OF PRO BOATS ON THE DICE AT A TIME WHERE WE, AND MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. SO THAT'S A BAD PRECEDENT. SO LET'S JUST TELL YOU, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE GET A SECOND? I THINK DIDN'T GET A SECOND YET. DID WE? OKAY. THERE'S NO SECOND. SO WE'RE NOT ADVANCING THAT MOTION. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY. THANKS FOR COMING BACK. ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD. AND, UH, WE ARE YEAH. MR. SETTLE. I THINK OUR ATTEMPT WAS TO POSTPONE THIS, UM, AND THAT DIDN'T WORK. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS THIS EVENING. I'M SORRY. THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE. WE'RE UP AGAINST THIS LACK OF NUMBERS. UM, ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD. AND, UH, I THINK WE'RE, ARE WE DONE WITH OUR DISCUSSION CASES? YES. LET'S. WE'VE GOT 1142. I THINK WE CAN DO IT. UM, AND, UH, MR. RIVERA, PLEASE, IF I'M GOING TOO FAST TO KNOW THESE, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE WANT TO DISCUSS IN OUR FUTURE ITEMS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT QUICKLY, BUT, UH, REAL QUICK, [C. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] ANY THING FROM ANY FOLKS HERE ON FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, WE DID HAVE TO, I KNOW THERE WAS A MOTION, UM, AN IDEA THAT WE WOULD FORM A WORKING GROUP. UH, WE JUST DIDN'T GET THAT ON THE AGENDA. WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE STAFF READY COMMISSIONERS. AZHAR I KNOW YOU WERE READY TO GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND. LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUSH THAT ONTO THE NEXT MEETING, IF YOU DON'T MIND ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. UH, WE'RE STILL CONTEMPLATING A AUGUST 5TH WEEK. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ALREADY. SO IF YOU HAVE IDEAS OF WHAT YOU WANT STAFF TO, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A LIST, BUT IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS YOU WANT STAFF TO TALK ABOUT, WE CAN DO THAT, UH, TO SEND IT TO MR. RIVERA. [D. BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES] OKAY. QUICK BOARDS AND CODES AND ORDINANCES. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING DEF DATE? WE LAST YEAR WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING. OKAY. UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE, UH, HEARD THEY DID A GOOD JOB. WE APPROVED THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS THIS EVENING. ANYTHING ELSE? MEANING MEETING NEXT WEEK ON A INDUSTRIAL USE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, JOIN SUSTAINABILITY. I THINK WE LOST COMMISSIONER PRACTICES. SO LET'S GO INTO SMALLER PLANNING. UM, MR. HOWARD, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU CAN SHARE WITH US ON SMALLER PLANNING? IT WAS IMMEDIATE AND OF JUNE 1ST GETTING THIS COUNSEL THEN, UH, THEY'LL BE RESCHEDULING IT, BUT IT DEFINED YET. OKAY. SO CENTRAL WATERFRONT, ANYTHING THERE? WE GOT ANOTHER UPDATE ON THE REGULATORY PLAN, BUT NOTHING. OKAY. AND LASTLY, UH, MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP, DIDN'T IT? YEAH, I THINK WE, UH, DISSOLVED THAT GROUP. SO WE REMOVED THAT FROM THE AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. SO IT IS 1144. UH THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS. SURE. COMMISSIONING LIES ON I'D RATHER YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM, ONE, UM, IF WE COULD TURN THE TEMPERATURE ON HAVING THAT FIFTH TUESDAY, WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE A PC MEETING OR A JOINT MEETING WITH ZAP. AND THEN SECOND, IF YOU CAN VOTE ON A SECRETARY, THE SUBSEQUENT SECRETARY OF THIS. OKAY. REAL QUICK FOLKS. ANY OPPOSITION, INCLUDING ZAP IN THE MEETING, WHERE WE GET UPDATES ON VARIOUS TOPICS, ANY OPPOSITION, INCLUDING ZAP. OKAY. SO, UH, WE'RE AGREEMENT THERE. AND THEN I NEED A SECRETARY HERE. COMMISSIONER IS OUR DEMOLITION DUE TO, UM, A NOMINEE, UH, MR. ANDERSON, AS THE SECRETARY. ALL RIGHT. UM, [05:30:01] THAT WAS ON THE TIES THAT APPROVED THAT AND THIS ON THE SCREEN, WE NEED ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU. THAT SEEMED UNANIMOUS. EVEN THE SECRETARY FOR THE DAY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. SO, UM, ANY OPPOSITION TO A JOURNEY IN THIS MEETING FROM THOSE LEFT. ALL RIGHT. IT'S 1145 ON THE, DURING THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. YOU OVER THERE? GOOD. ONLINE. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KISS YOU EVERYWHERE. ONE ON THE LEFT ONE. ALL RIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.