Jun 14, 2022 City Council Work Session

BEGIN THEN WITH, UH, PULL ITEMS. UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE HERE IN THE, UH, BOARD AND COMMISSION ROOM.

SO LET'S

[A. Pre-Selected Agenda Items]

WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.

I SEE ON A TASHA ON THE SCREEN.

I SEE HER HER BOX, BUT I DON'T SEE HER.

AND, UH, UH, CATHERINE WENT IS NOT FEELING WELL THIS MORNING.

UH, NOT WITH US, UH, PROBABLY TODAY.

CAN I SEE THE CITY MANAGER, CITY MANAGER IS ALSO ON SCREEN.

UH, LSU PULLED YOUR, UM, TRAFFIC, UH, RESOLUTION.

I DID.

I, I PULLED MY OWN ITEM CAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DAYLIGHT THOSE TODAY.

UM, AND I SEE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, JIM DALE IS WITH US IN CASE WE HAVE ANY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LAY OUT WHERE THIS CONVERSATION CAME FROM.

THIS IS ABOUT NARROWLY TARGETING TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, SPECIFICALLY WHERE FATAL CRASHES ARE OCCURRING.

AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE WERE HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH NOT ONLY OUR PRECINCT THREE COUNTY CONSTABLE, UM, BUT ALSO THE VISION ZERO PROGRAM AND REALIZING THAT ALTHOUGH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS FULLY FUNDED, WE ARE AWARE THAT THEY ARE STILL TRAINING UP CADETS TO FILL THE VACANCIES THEY HAVE IN THE DEPARTMENT.

OFTENTIMES THE RESOURCES HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED SPECIFICALLY TO WHERE CRIMES ARE OCCURRING OR 9 1, 1 CALLS AND YOU KNOW, MORE HIGH-PROFILE SITUATIONS.

UM, AND THAT DOESN'T LEAVE THEM AVAILABLE TO NECESSARILY, UM, JUST BE PRESENT AND BE VISIBLE AND TO PULL PEOPLE OVER FOR SPEEDING ON HIGHWAYS, UM, DRUNK DRIVING, OTHER RECKLESS THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, UM, SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO MY DISTRICT AREAS THAT KIND OF OVERLAP CLOSER TO THE EDGE OF THE CITY LIMITS, WHERE WE KNOW THE CONSTABLES ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, PATROLLING OVER THERE.

AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WANTED TO ADD ANY, UM, ELEMENTS TO THIS THAT THEY THINK NEED TO BE DAYLIGHTED IN THIS.

SO IT JUST SAYS, UM, TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO GO AND LOOK AT OPTIONS WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, UM, WITH OUR VISION ZERO PROGRAMMING AND ICY LOUIS LEFT IS NOW ON THE SCREEN AS WELL.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, LOUIS, I KNOW WE, UM, MY OFFICE TALKED WITH YOU EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THIS.

UH, THANK YOU, DON SMITH LEWIS LEFT THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORTATION SAFETY OFFICER.

WE'RE BASICALLY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE ANY CONTEXT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IN DISCUSSION TODAY.

SO THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY JUST TO REITERATE WHAT LEWIS SAID.

WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH APD AND CONSTABLES, LIKE YOU HAD MENTIONED FOR A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, AND WE'VE MET WITH EACH OF THE COUNCIL OFFICES TO TALK ABOUT A POTENTIAL, UM, AGREEMENT WITH TRAVIS COUNTY, BUT THIS RESOLUTION IS A LITTLE BIT BROADER TO LOOK AT NEAR TERM STRATEGIES AND LONG-TERM STRATEGIES.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND IT'S A RESOLUTION TO EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A FUNCTION OF CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN 2020 AND A FUNCTION OF THE STAFFING CRISIS.

MAY I PRETEND? THANK YOU.

UM, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS FOR DRAFTING THIS UP AND I'M PROUD TO CO-SPONSOR.

UM, THIS IS, UH, A QUESTION OF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT AND REALLY SAFETY, UM, THAT IS LONG STANDING.

AND I THINK AS WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY IS REALLY IMPORTANT,

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WE WERE ALREADY DROPPING IN OUR ENFORCEMENT LEVELS PRIOR TO WHEN I CAME ON TO COUNCIL IN 2017.

AND REMEMBER IN, UM, 2017, UM, THERE'S A, YOU, THERE WAS A HUGE JUMP, I THINK WAS 2017.

THERE WAS A HUGE JUMP IN THE RECEIPTS THAT THE MUNICIPAL COURT WAS HAVING FROM TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

UM, THE, UH, SO THE, THE ISSUE OF HOW MUCH TIME WE'RE SPENDING DOING TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, HOW MUCH TIME WE NEED TO BE SPENDING THAT, UM, IS A LONGSTANDING ONE.

UM, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, FOR, FOR CONTEXT.

I THINK THAT THE APPROACH MOVING FORWARD ALSO IS IMPORTANT AND THAT IT RECOGNIZES THAT THIS IS ABOUT SAFETY.

IT'S NOT ABOUT RAISING MONEY.

IT'S ABOUT HOW DO WE KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT ARE OBEYING THE SPEED LIMITS SO THAT EVERYONE IS SAFE? BECAUSE THOSE CHANGES OF, YOU KNOW, YOU START GETTING 15 MILES ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT, WHICH WE DO SEE FIVE MILES EVERY, EVERY LITTLE BIT MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE, UM, THAT HISTORY.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A LONG STANDING PROBLEM.

I THINK THIS IS AN INNOVATIVE SOLUTION.

I APPRECIATE OUR STAFF AND I APPRECIATE, UM, THE CONSTABLE'S, UM, CREATIVITY AND THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THIS IN A WAY THAT TARGET US ON, UM, OUR MOST PROBLEMATIC AREAS.

LET'S GO.

THE HISTORY IS HELPFUL BECAUSE WE'RE IN PULLING, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD RESOLUTION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING IT.

I WANTED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED ITEM THAT TALKS ABOUT CONTRACTING WITH THE CONSTABLES, UM, AND NEGOTIATING AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH TRAVIS COUNTY.

I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UM, TAXPAYERS PAY TAXES TO TRAVIS COUNTY AND, UH, THE ENFORCEMENT IS HISTORICALLY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.

SO WE ARE EFFECTIVELY FUNDING THE CONSTABLES, BUT NOT NECESSARILY GETTING AS MUCH SERVICE FROM THOSE RESOURCES.

AND I REALLY WOULD URGE OUR STAFF TO NEGOTIATE THAT ITEM VERY CAREFULLY.

I DO THINK THAT THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR TRAVIS COUNTY TO STEP UP ITS ENFORCEMENT WITHIN, UM, CITY OF AUSTIN CONFINES, NOT ONLY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S, UM, BOUNDARY LINES.

SO I REALLY LIKED THAT PARTICULAR, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED IN, AND I WILL POINT TO THE FACT THAT I WORKED FOR, UM, CONSTABLE FIVE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL.

SO I HAVE A SENSE OF THE KIND OF WORK THAT IS DONE IN THOSE OFFICES.

AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE BUDGETING, UH, STRUCTURES THAT THEY'RE UNDER AND, UM, HOW THEY GO ABOUT CRAFTING THEIR BUDGETS.

SO THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO GO IN AND HAVE THOSE CON THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH CONSTABLE THREE, CERTAINLY, BUT I WOULD URGE IT TO BE EVEN BROADER SPECIFICALLY CONSTABLE FIVE, WHICH HAS THE JURISDICTION FOR ALL OF THE CENTRAL PART OF THE CITY.

SO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS.

I APPRECIATE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I KNOW, UM, THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, PRECINCT FOUR.

AND SO I KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING ON ALL OUTSKIRTS AND WOULD ABSOLUTELY WELCOME THE CONVERSATION BEING ABOUT ALL, ALL OF THE PRECINCTS.

AND WE ALSO WROTE IT TO BE VERY NARROWLY CRAFTED SO THAT IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT PULLING PEOPLE OVER FOR TAILLIGHTS OR OTHER MINOR INFRACTIONS, VERY, VERY FOCUSED ON THE HIGH RATE OF SPEEDING AND THE FATALITIES AND, AND THOSE TYPES OF CRASHES.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND SIMPLY HAVING A VISIBLE PRESENCE WILL GO A LONG WAY TO DETERRING PEOPLE, TO REMIND THEM THAT THERE ARE CHILDREN AT PLAY AND THERE ARE FOLKS WALKING AND OTHER PEOPLE DRIVING.

SO JUST TO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF AWARENESS OR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE DRIVING AND POTENTIALLY BREAKING LAWS WITH THEIR SCREENING.

ABSOLUTELY.

SOME OF Y'ALL MAY REMEMBER, UM, IT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, BUT THERE WAS A CAR GOING DOWN A STREET IN MY DISTRICT AT A VERY HIGH RATE OF SPEED, ABOUT 80 OR 90 MILES AN HOUR.

I THINK THE INDIVIDUAL WAS MAYBE 19 YEARS OLD.

UM, IT JUMPED THE CURB AND ENDED UP IN A TREE OVER THE SIDEWALK THAT PEOPLE HAPPEN TO USE TO WALK TO THE NEIGHBORING MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AND SO IT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT, UM, IMPACTED THE COMMUNITY GREATLY.

AND I KNOW EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE SLOW DOWN, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFUL WITH THE WAY THAT THEY'RE DRIVING.

THAT'S WHERE COUNTY THANK YOU.

I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY SAY THE SAME POINT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER POOL SAID THAT THE CONSTABLES CAN AND WILL STOP YOU FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

AND THIS REALLY AMPLIFIES THAT PRESENCE AND FOR SAFETY, WE'RE GOING TO GO A LONG WAY TO REALLY GETTING THAT TO OUR GOAL EFFICIENCY ROASTS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS ITEM COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.

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THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, AND IT'S GOOD THAT AS WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLORE ALL DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO PUBLIC SAFETY AS EFFECTIVELY AS WE CAN.

UH, I NOTICED IN THE MEDIA YESTERDAY THAT DALLAS IS NOW MOVING TOWARD THE SAME KIND OF INCREASED REPORTING, UH, OF, UH, EVENTS OVER THE INTERNET RATHER THAN HAVING, UH, POLICE OFFICERS, UH, UH, UH, RESPONDING TO TAKE REPORTS, UH, FOR, FOR MANY OF THE REASONS THAT OUR POLICE CHIEF SAID, HE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A BETTER USE OF PEOPLE'S TIME.

UH, IT'S INTERESTING THAT NOW THAT THAT'S BEING PICKED UP IN, UH, IN, IN OTHER PLACES.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, WHAT ABOUT, UH, NEXT ITEM, UH, ITEM 80 AND 81 COUNCILOR TOVO YOU PULLED THIS ONE, THE STATESMAN TRIAL.

THANKS MAYOR.

UM, I CAN BE REALLY QUICK ON THIS.

I AM ASKING STAFF, OR I WILL REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT ON THIS.

WE DON'T YET HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

THIS IS A VERY BIG, VERY COMPLEX, UM, REZONING PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT REZONING, AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT, THAT BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY REVIEW THAT, THAT, UM, ORDINANCE PRIOR TO VOTING ON IT ON SECOND READING.

UM, REMEMBER IF I, IF I MAY ADD, UM, WE DO HAVE A POSTPONE REQUEST THAT WE RECEIVED FROM, UH, SOUTH RIVER CITY, UM, CITIZENS ASSOCIATION.

UM, SO IT'S FROM WENDY PRICE.

TODD.

IT IS THE FIRST REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT TO THE NEXT MEETING OF JULY 28TH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE, I WOULD HAVE REQUESTED A POSTPONE IN ANY WAY SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD REGARD IT AS A POSTPONEMENT, OTHER FROM STAFF OR COUNCIL.

UM, I REMEMBER BACK WHEN WE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS, ONE OF THE ONLY REASONS I VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WAS TO INITIATE THAT ORDINANCE TO STAFF HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHEN WE MIGHT HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW.

UM, THE ORDINANCE, I JUST SPOKE TO A LOT OF PARDON ME ABOUT THIS MORNING.

UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A DRAFT POSSIBLY BY TOMORROW, BUT IT'S A VERY LENGTHY COMPLICATED ORDINANCE.

IT'S 20 PAGES LONG IT'S AND I WOULD APPRECIATE TIME TO REVIEW THAT.

SO I BELIEVE A POSTPONEMENT IS APPROPRIATE.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVA YES, CATHERINE.

AND JUST TO CONFIRM THE POSTPONEMENT IS AT THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST.

THE, THE, THE REGULATING PLAN IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE AREA.

UH, ON THURSDAY, WE'LL SEE WHO MAKES A MOTION, BUT YES, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW MIRROR.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOME, SOME OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WHO WANT TO KNOW, KIND OF GET A SENSE OF THE COUNCILS WILL ON THIS SIDE, APPRECIATE HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES, BUT I ALSO WANT TO JUST ASK OUR STAFF.

WE'VE HAD VARIOUS CONVERSATIONS, INCLUDING MOST EXTENSIVELY AS A COUNCIL LAST FALL IN DECEMBER, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, WE ALSO REQUESTED TO HAVE, UH, THE, THE FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS PROVIDED TO ALL THE COUNCIL, THE DIFFERENT ANALYSES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN, UM, TAX INCREMENT, REFINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE.

AND SO I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT MY OFFICE HAS NOW GOTTEN THOSE FILES.

I'M NOT SURE IF EVERY COUNCIL OFFICE HAS GOTTEN THOSE FILES, BUT I DO THINK AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BALANCE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN PARTICULAR AND THE OTHER KINDS OF AMENITIES THAT ARE PART OF THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A COUNCIL DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

I DID REQUEST A MEETING, UM, WITH ECO NORTHWEST AND WAS TOLD THAT THERE WE REQUESTED IT.

UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT WHEN, BUT WE WERE TOLD THEY COULDN'T MEET BEFORE THURSDAY.

UM, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION HERE AS WELL ABOUT THOSE FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS THAT, THAT THE DEVELOPERS IS REFERENCING AS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE PERCENTAGE.

SO MY REQUEST IS ALSO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERY COUNCIL OFFICE HAS THOSE DOCUMENTS, UM, IF THEY WANT TO REVIEW IT, BUT ALSO THAT WE MAKE SPACE WHEN, WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO US BEFORE THIS COMES BACK TO US, THAT WE MAKE SPACE IN OUR JULY MEETING TO TALK ABOUT, TO TALK ABOUT THOSE FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS, PERHAPS WITH THE CONSULTANTS.

AND I THINK THERE WERE SEVERAL CONSULTANTS NOW WHO HAVE LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS FOR THIS AREA.

THERE IT IS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, RODNEY GONZALES.

YES, COUNCIL MEMBER WILL FROM THAT.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS RECEIVED THOSE FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS.

NOW WE'LL GET WITH TIERING ROSIE AS TO HOW WE CAN CARVE OUT THAT TIME THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS THOSE ANALYSIS.

THERE'S ALSO A BROADER CONVERSATION TOO.

I AGREE.

WE NEED TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ANALYZE THOSE.

UH, AS WE WENT THROUGH THE NUMBERS FOR THE DISTRICT AND LOOKED AT THE TERS FUNDING, IT WAS APPARENT THAT STAFF WAS COMING BACK AND SAYING, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE IN HERE, THERE'S NOT THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO GET TO.

UH, AND, UM, PART OF THIS, I THINK, RELATES TO

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BUT I KNOW GOING BACK TO ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED WHEN THE PLAN WAS ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED, GOING BACK FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO, UM, THERE WERE CERTAIN, UH, HEIGHT THAT WERE PROPOSED FOR THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE IN THIS AREA.

AND I THINK IT WAS LIKE 200, 300, 400 FOOT OF HEIGHT.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE INCREASED THE HEIGHT OF THOSE BUILDINGS, GENERALLY IN THIS AREA, WHICH I SEE AS AN EXTENSION OF DOWNTOWN.

AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO DEVELOP THAT WAY.

AND I THINK THAT OVER THE NEXT 20, 30 YEARS IS QUITE A FEEL THAT WAY.

BUT IF THE HEIGHT WE'RE NOT 200, 300, 400, BUT 300, 400, 500 OR 400, 500, 600, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT DOES TO THE TERS FINANCING.

AND WHETHER THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO RAISE THE MONEY ON A TERM THAT WOULD FUND ALL OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE WANT IN THAT AREA.

AND IF IT DOES, THEN I THINK THAT'S A CHOICE THAT OUGHT TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO SEE RATHER THAN BEING LOCKED INTO AN ASSUMPTION THAT THAT IS, IS OLDER AND PERHAPS MADE IN A DIFFERENT TIME PERIOD.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO THROW THAT INTO THE MIX.

CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT? SURE.

IF I COULD, BECAUSE ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE REALLY INTERTWINED.

YOU'VE GOT, OF COURSE THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN, YOU'VE GOT THE TERS, AS YOU'VE MENTIONED, YOU'VE GOT THE REGULATING PLAN AND OF COURSE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF COUNCIL IS THE STATESMAN PUD.

UM, IT MAY BE THAT WE COLLECTIVELY GET TOGETHER WITH, UH, FINANCE AND OF COURSE, WITH ROSIE AND JERRY, TO TALK ABOUT THE TERMS IN GENERAL, JUST KIND OF LIKE A COUNCIL REFRESH THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WENT INTO THE TOURIST ANALYSIS, INCLUDING THE HEIGHT.

UM, AND YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE MOST RECENT ANALYSIS WAS UPDATED BY CHARLES .

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE REGULATING PLAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS, WHAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING IN THAT REGULATING PLAN.

AND THEN OF COURSE, TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL ANALYSES ASSOCIATED WITH STATESMAN PUD.

SO I CAN GET WITH STAFF ABOUT JUST HOW THAT COLLECTIVE, UH, BRIEFING WOULD LOOK AHEAD OF THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE STATESMEN PUD.

UM, VERY LIKELY IT WOULD BE AT THAT SAME COUNCIL MEETING.

AND SO WE'D WANT TO OF COURSE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION FIRST.

UM, BUT I CAN GET WITH STANFORD ABOUT ALL THOSE, UH, MATTERS THAT UN COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO HAD BROUGHT, HAD BROUGHT UP TWO TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND ALSO TO LAY OUT A CALENDAR FOR WHEN IS ANTICIPATED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO RESOLVE AND HEAR THOSE ISSUES, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.

COUNCIL, OUR POOL.

I HAD TALKED WITH, UM, UM, ACM GONZALEZ AND THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT REQUESTING A BRIEFING ON BOTH THE ECO NORTHWEST AND THE, UM, EPS OR ESP CPS, RIGHT.

UPS.

YES, YES, YES.

IT HAD HE ASKED, UM, SO THAT WE COULD ALL GET A SENSE OF WHAT WAS CONTAINED IN THOSE REPORTS, SEE WHAT ANY, WHERE THEY ALIGN WITH ONE ANOTHER, WHERE THE DIFFERENCES MAY FALL SO THAT WE COULD GET A, UH, MORE, UH, IN-DEPTH UNDERSTANDING OF THE FINANCIALS, WHICH IS AN UNKNOWN, UNUSUAL PLACE FOR US TO BE, TO HAVE THIS LEVEL OF DATA AND INFORMATION.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE THAT THIS CONVERSATION IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE, AND IT WILL TAKE US DIGGING INTO THE DETAILS IN ORDER TO RENDER THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND POSITIVE, UM, RESULT, I THINK FOR THE, FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY.

UM, AND IF I COULD COUNSEL REMEMBER THAT ANALYSIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE COMPARISON OF THE ECON NORTHWEST FROM 2020 TO THE RECENT APS ANALYSIS.

SO THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES THAT IS EXCELLENT.

I THINK THAT'LL BE REALLY HELPFUL.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT COULDN'T HAPPEN TODAY BECAUSE THE PRINCIPALS WEREN'T AVAILABLE, BUT IT MAYBE COULD HAPPEN WHERE YOU SAYING IN JULY, WE ANTICIPATED IN JULY.

AND OF COURSE THE PRINCIPALS AREN'T, UH, HERE AS WELL.

UM, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE FINAL DRAFT.

THERE'S SOME BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, EVERYTHING THAT THEY PUT INTO THE DRAFT IS AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM IN BETWEEN NOW AND THAT DISCUSSION TO FINALIZE THAT, THAT DOCUMENT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IN TERMS OF OUR KITCHEN.

I WANT TO RESPOND TO COUNCIL MEMBER TOVA IS QUESTION.

I, I ALSO SUPPORT, UM, POSTPONEMENT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THE DOCUMENTS SO THAT WE CAN READ THROUGH THEM AND ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID.

I THINK UNDERSTANDING THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IMPORTANT.

AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT INFORMATION.

YES, WE CAN DO THAT AHEAD OF THE POSTING.

I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON MY PREVIOUS QUESTION ABOUT THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT MIGHT BE READY.

IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD SEND THAT TO COUNCIL WHEN IT IS READY SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW IT? OR IS THERE A PLACE ONLINE WHERE WE CAN PUT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT AND REVIEW IT AS WELL? AND WE CAN GET FEEDBACK.

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ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE OFF THIS AND JUST ASK IF ANYBODY HAS A CONCERN ABOUT IT, ABOUT A POST-MOMENT.

I DON'T, IT SEEMS APPROPRIATE TO ME THAT THERE WOULD BE A POSTPONEMENT.

UM, I HAD HEARD THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD OF POSTPONEMENT, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU DON'T WANT TO CHARGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THE ORDINANCES AND BACK, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

ONE OF OUR PRESENTATIONS IS STILL ON THAT IS OKAY.

YOU'RE SORRY.

YOU'RE STILL GETTING A PRESENTATION TODAY ON THAT.

IT'S A DIFFERENT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT HAS A DIFFERENT ONE.

OKAY, NATASHA, THANK YOU, JERRY.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, I DON'T IN FACT HAVE, UH, ANY PROBLEM WITH THE POSTPONEMENT.

IN FACT, I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

I, I SUPPORTED, I AGREE THAT THIS TIMELINE HAS BEEN RELATIVELY CONFUSING.

I FEEL LIKE WE ABSOLUTELY NEED MORE TIME TO REALLY TRULY WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND THIS VERY COMPLEX PROPOSAL AND THE POTENTIAL IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

LONG-TERM I ALWAYS, ALWAYS TRY TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT MY BABY SAID, WHAT, WHAT WILL AUSTIN LOOK LIKE IN 2080? SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE APPROACH THIS COMPLEX PROPOSAL, WE REALLY RECOGNIZE HOW IT FITS INTO THE LARGER SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION, UM, FUTURE FACING AUSTIN.

UM, SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUMP THE BRAKES.

I THINK WE REALLY NEEDED TO.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP COUNCIL MEMBER TBA.

SO RODNEY, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT PRESENTATION, I HAD ONLY PRESENTATION ON WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN, BUT, BUT WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE IF WE INCREASE THE HEIGHT, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT ON THOSE ISSUES, UH, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A GENERAL FEEL TO GET A FEEL FOR THAT, I'LL GET WITH AND KIM AND LUVATA IS THEY'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH CHARLES THOMPSON TO DO THOSE ASSUMPTIONS.

UM, AND WE, IF THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS, WE'LL CERTAINLY RELAY THOSE TO COUNSEL AHEAD OF THE PRESENTATION.

BUT JUST TO BEGIN, I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS PRETTY MEATY, COMPLICATED FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.

AND SO I REALLY WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'RE, THAT THAT IS GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION BECAUSE JUST LOOKING THROUGH, I THINK, INDEPENDENTLY LOOKING THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT, THESE DIFFERENT FINANCIAL ANALYSIS IS PRETTY CHALLENGING TO TRY TO TRY TO GO FROM THAT, TO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SAYING ISN'T IS NOT POSSIBLE.

SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IT'S FINE TO LOOK AT OTHER SCENARIOS, BUT COULD WE PLEASE FIRST START BY JUST REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT SCENARIOS THEY'VE MODELED AND, AND HOW THAT, WHAT THAT SUGGESTS IN TERMS OF, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PARKS AND OTHER THINGS CERTAINLY.

AND IF I COULD OFFER A DISTINCTION, WHAT THE MAYOR IS TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO HIGH AS OVERALL ALTERS ANALYSIS, WHICH IS NOT THE ONE THAT EPS IS DOING FOR US, THAT'S A SEPARATE ONE THAT KIM AND AD ARE WORKING WITH CHARLES HEINZ HEAD-ON, UH, FOR THE ANALYSIS SPECIFIC TO THE STATESMAN.

THAT'S ONE THAT ROSIE AND JERRY ARE WORKING WITH APS ON.

AND, AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT AS A SEPARATE ANALYSIS FROM WHAT THE MAYOR HAS BEEN ASKING FOR.

SEE THAT I THINK TOO, THOUGH, SOME OF THE EARLIER ANALYSES, SOME OF THE EARLIER FINANCIAL ANALYSES THAT FORMED THE BASIS FOR THE SOUTH CENTRAL ASSUMPTIONS ARE ALSO BEING CITED AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PLANNED UNIT.

SO IT'S ALL IT ALL IS INTERMIXED, BUT I JUST WANT TO SORT OF START BY UNDERSTANDING, UM, THE ANALYSIS FOR, FOR WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THAT IN THE PLANNING PLANNING, AND WE'LL DO OUR VERY BEST, UH, COME THAT BRIEFING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE DISTINCTIONS SO THAT OUR COUNCIL CAN HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ON THOSE MATTERS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT.

AND, AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT, BUT THEY ARE INTERRELATED.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT I WANT THIS DEVELOPER TO DO WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO, ABSENT THAT DEVELOPER DOING THEM.

CAUSE THAT MIGHT PRIORITIZE WHAT IT IS I WANT THIS DEVELOPER TO DO.

IF WE'RE OTHERWISE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS, THEN THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, THAT I MIGHT WANT TO BE ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO DO.

IF OUR TERRORS ENABLES US TO HAVE THE PUBLIC, DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE PUBLIC BENEFIT.

SO I BOTH INFORMING THEIR DIFFERENT INFORMATION, BUT IN, FOR ME, THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTERRELATED ON THIS QUESTION.

THAT'S IN FRONT OF US NOW.

IN THE MATERIAL THAT WE HAVE SEEN.

MAYOR PRO TEM.

SO, UM, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN ON THIS PART, I THINK IT'S STILL VERY FAR FROM BEING READY FOR US TO VOTE ON NOT JUST FOR THE POSTPONEMENT.

UM, THERE'S NOT ONLY THE FINANCIAL SIDE.

UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT'S IN THE PUD.

UM, I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKLAND AND WHAT WE'RE DELIVERING WITH RESPECT TO THE PARKLAND AND, AND WHAT IS EXPECTED OF HIM.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY UNCLEAR

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UM, AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, WHICH MAY BE APPROPRIATE HERE, UM, THIS SHOULD NOT BE A FLY BY THE NIGHT, UM, 12:00 AM DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO WE SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT WHETHER WE NEED TO SCHEDULE SOME DEDICATED TIME TO LOOKING AT THIS.

I THINK IT RISES TO THAT LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE FOR OUR CITY.

UM, AND, AND WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT WHETHER WE NEED NOT ONLY DEDICATED TIME IN THE WORK SESSION, BUT A COUNCIL MEETING THAT IS FOCUSED ON THAT.

SO THE COMMUNITY CAN COME SPEAK TO US IN A CLEAR WAY AND THAT WE CAN FOCUS IN ON THE CHANGES.

THE JULY MEETING IS TRADITIONALLY A VERY HEAVY MEETING AS IS THE AUGUST MEETING.

UM, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T DEAL WITH IT AT ALL.

AND THEN, BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO GIVE OUR SPACE TO HAVE A PROCESS THAT LEADS TO GOOD DECISIONS.

ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK IT MIGHT VERY WELL BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

JERRY, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU NEEDED TO ADD OR ANYTHING THAT I SAID THAT WASN'T ACCURATE ABOUT THE LOCALIST DIRECT DISTRICT? NO.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

I PULLED THE NEXT ITEM COUNCILOR TOVO, UH, AND I, AND I PULLED IT, UH, JUST TO, BECAUSE I WAS IN YOUR QUORUM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ELEVATE THE CONVERSATION.

YOU AND I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND I FULLY EXPECT US TO BE ABLE TO, TO AGREE TO LANGUAGE, TO ASSUAGE MY CONCERN.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY HISTORIC AREA AND NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH INITIATING THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AT THE SAME TIME WE PASSED A RESOLUTION LAST WEEK THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON BROUGHT, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, WAS PERHAPS TAKING A LOOK AT, UM, UM, OTHER ISSUES THAT, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE, UH, CONTAINED WITHIN THE, THE INITIATED HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T SUPERSEDING OR LOSING TRACK OF THAT EARLIER RESOLUTION.

AND THAT BY DOING THIS, WE WEREN'T LIMITING THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT CAN BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION, RECOGNIZE THE BENEFIT OF US ACTUALLY INITIATING SOME SOMEWHERE, BUT NOT PREDETERMINING WHAT THE ULTIMATE CONCLUSIONS WOULD BE.

UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I HAD INDICATED, UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE.

UM, I, WHERE YOU AND I NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME TALKING IS ABOUT THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, BECAUSE I DO, I DO THINK THAT THIS IS THE VEHICLE BY WHICH WE ACHIEVE WHAT WAS DESCRIBED IN LAST WEEK'S, UM, RESOLUTION.

THERE WAS A PASSAGE I'LL CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO TALKING ABOUT IN THE SECOND VIET FURTHER RESOLVED, IT DIRECTS THE MANAGER TO PREPARE A CODE AMENDMENT, AND THEN POINT A OF THAT TALKS ABOUT ALLOWING A STRUCTURE TO HAVE A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF ONE 40 FEET, UM, OR WHATEVER IS ALLOWABLE UNDER THE CAPITOL VIEW CORRIDOR.

AND THEN THE NEXT PASSAGE TALKS ABOUT CREATING DESIGN STANDARDS WITH SPECIFIC GUIDELINES, FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FACADES ON HISTORIC STRUCTURES TO ENSURE ANY REDEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES GET GET CREATED THROUGH A LOCAL HISTORY PERSPECTIVE.

AND SO, AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED BACK AT THE LETTER THAT WE HAVE FROM, FROM THE, I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST GIVE ME ONE MINUTE, I THOUGHT I HAD SEEN SOMETHING IN IN ONE OF THE LETTERS, BUT IN ANY CASE, UM, OH YEAH, IT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCES LETTER THAT THEY SENT US ON JUNE 7TH, UM, ADVOCATING IN SUPPORT OF THESE CODE AMENDMENTS.

THEY, THEY KNOW TO, FOR THE STRUCTURES TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC SIXTH STREETS DISTRICT, THEIR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOULD COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND THEY TALK ABOUT MAINTAINING THE STEP, THE STEP BACK.

SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, I'M GLAD YOU'RE IS HERE IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT THAT IS, THAT IS IN THE MAIN, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE, IN THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTING A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT AREA, UM, HAVE A GREAT ROLE IN HELPING SHAPE AND SUGGEST WHAT THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE GOING TO BE.

THERE'S A PRETTY STANDARD SET THAT THAT CAN BE MODIFIED.

BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S VERY MUCH IN CONCERT WITH WHAT, WITH THE, WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ADDED THAT WAS QUITE GENERAL ABOUT PLANNING.

I THINK THIS IS THE VEHICLE THROUGH WHICH WE ACHIEVE THAT KIND OF PLANNING AND HISTORIC AREA.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M STILL IN YOUR CORE.

I THINK YOU AND I HAVE COME UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT, THAT, THAT WORKS ON THIS.

I DON'T EXPECT IT TO REALLY BE AN ISSUE ON THURSDAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU,

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THE, UH, THE PURPOSE OF A LOW, WELL, WHAT ARE THE MAIN FUNCTIONS OF LOCAL STORE DISTRICT IS TO ESTABLISH DESIGN STANDARDS? UM, IN THE PAST, I SUPPOSE, COMMONLY BEEN RESIDENTIAL DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT, UH, THERE'S NO REASON IT CANNOT BE COMMERCIAL.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT THE, UH, THERE IS OVERLAP BETWEEN THE RESOLUTION THAT PASSED YESTERDAY AND WHAT A LOCAL STORE, I MEAN, LAST WEEK AND WHAT A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT DOES.

HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN IT'S INITIATED BY THE COUNCIL VERSUS WHEN IT'S INITIATED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, FRANKLY, UM, THE ONLY WAY I THINK THAT THE WAY I WOULD TAKE THIS RESOLUTION AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IS A, IS FOR THE STAFF TO GO OUT AND DO THE WORK RELATED TO A LOCAL STORE DISTRICT.

BUT THE WAY THE CODE IS SET UP AT EXTRA REQUIRES THE 51% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS PETITION FOR THE CREATION OF A DISTRICT.

SO WE WOULD WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS IF THIS RESOLUTION WERE TO PASS ON, UM, WHAT A DISTRICT MEANS AND TO SEE IF THEY SUPPORT IT.

UH, WE REALLY CAN'T INITIATE.

WE CAN, YOU CANNOT ENCOURAGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK YOU CAN START THE PROCESS OF THE STAFF WORKING ON IT, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD TAKE THIS RESOLUTION TO DO.

BUT THE ACTUAL CREATION OF A DISTRICT REQUIRES THE CONSENT OF THE, UH, OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND WE WOULD BRING THAT TO ONCE WE HAD THAT CONSENT, WE WOULD BRING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

BUT IT, BUT IT IS THE STRUCTURE THROUGH WHICH THE DESIGN STANDARD, I MEAN THAT IT USUALLY YIELDS A SET OF DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH IS ALREADY WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS INITIATED, OR, YOU KNOW, IN LAST WEEK'S INITIATION, IT CALLED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION DESIGN STANDARDS.

SO IT ALWAYS RESULTS INTO THE ESTABLISHMENT.

I MEAN, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IT'S ALL THE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE, HAVE TO BE CREATED, BUT THAT, BUT THAT WOULD ASSUME.

AND THEN IN THIS CASE, I DON'T THINK IT MAY BE AN ISSUE, BUT SINCE WE CAN'T DO IT IN A, REQUIRES THE NEIGHBORHOOD 50 PLUS 1% OF THE AREA TO DO IT, IF 50 PLUS 1% OF THE AREA DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT, THEY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WE CAN'T AGREE ON STANDARDS.

SO WE JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

WE CAN'T FORCE THAT OR OTHERWISE INITIATE THAT OURSELVES.

NOW, THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO ATTACH HEIGHTS OR OTHER STUFF WOULD BE THROUGH A DIFFERENT INITIATED PROCESS THAT WE CAN INITIATE.

IT COULD BE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT UP CODE AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE TO CREATE A SPECIAL AREA FOR SIXTH STREET THAT HAS ITS OWN SET OF REGULATIONS.

IT COULD ALSO BE DONE THROUGH A HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT CREATES, YOU KNOW, DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH ARE BASICALLY THE SAME THING.

THE COUNCIL CREATED THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THEN IMMEDIATELY SAY, NOW GO, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ONE IN CLARKSVILLE.

AND WE HAD TO EXPLAIN THE CITY COUNCIL DID THE PROCESS THAT THEY CREATED ACTUALLY BACK THEN, IT REQUIRED MORE THAN 51%.

UM, UM, SO WE HAD TO TELL COUNCIL BY RIDICULED AT THE TIME THAT THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL HAD JUST PASSED ACTUALLY WAS A, UM, COME FROM BELOW I PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO A COME FROM ABOVE.

UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, SO THIS, TO ME, THIS RESOLUTION WOULD SAY, STAFF GO WORK WITH THE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA ON THE, UH, THE IDEA OF THE CREATION OF A DISTRICT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.

YOU'RE RIGHT, THOUGH, THERE IS TWO WAYS THAT WE COULD HAVE DESIGN STANDARD OR WE COULD HAVE THESE, THE REGULATIONS THAT COULD BE THROUGH THE CODE.

IT CAN BE THROUGH A DISTRICT.

THEY COULD BE THROUGH, FRANKLY, BOTH THAT WOULD BE RUN PARALLEL SIDE BY SIDE.

AND IT'S JUST THAT VARIATIONS THAT I WANTED TO ALLOW FOR RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS A REALLY HISTORIC AREA AND I'M REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH US NEEDING IN THAT PROCESS.

AND I'M GOING TO LOOK BACK AT THE LANGUAGE, UM, ABOUT INITIATION.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, WHAT I THINK I HEAR AS SUPPORT FOR MOVING FORWARD.

I ALSO WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW IF, HOW THIS MIGHT AFFECT THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION THAT WE PASSED LAST WEEK.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS, UH, TRADITIONALLY AT LEAST FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, IT'S NOT BEEN THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO FORCE A BUSINESS OWNER INTO A HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

AND SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS TO COME UP WITH THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS.

THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT PROCESS.

MY QUESTION HERE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO IS, IS THERE ANYTHING WRITTEN IN THE LANGUAGE OF YOUR RESOLUTION AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING IT UP HERE TO LOOK AT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES STAFF TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN THE EVENT THAT THE OWNERS DECIDE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO GET A REPORT BACK FROM STAFF.

SO THESE COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO IN ASKING STAFF TO GO DO THIS WORK, THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL BEFORE, BEFORE WE COULD EVEN CONSIDER OR VOTE ON THE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ATTACH THEMSELVES.

OH, CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IF THE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE NOT WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WILL CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO REPORT BACK TO US ON THAT? UM,

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NOT SPECIFICALLY.

SO I GUESS IT WOULD BE HELPFUL SO THAT WE COULD CONSIDER OTHER OPTIONS FOR, FOR MAKING SIXTH STREET HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO.

UM, SURE.

I'LL THINK ABOUT, I'LL THINK ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, CURRENTLY IT IS, IT IS A NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO THERE IS, THERE IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THERE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO PUT UP A SIGN, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND GET CERTAIN, UM, CERTAIN PROVISIONS.

AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A HOST OF, OF HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT APPLY THAT STANDARDS THAT APPLY IN THAT AREA.

THE CONVERSATION NOW IS ABOUT WHETHER THOSE SHOULD BE ADAPTED BASED ON LAST WEEK'S.

I MEAN, THE COUNCIL VOTED TO SAY WHERE WE'RE WILLING TO INITIATE CHANGES TO THOSE, FOR THIS, FOR THIS REDEVELOPMENT, FOR THIS PROPERTY OWNER.

SO I GUESS IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT IN THERE SOMETHING THAT ASKS FOR A REPORT BACK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT STREAM REALTY, WHAT STREAM REALTY DISPOSITION IS TOWARD IT, SINCE THEY'RE A 61% PROPERTY OWNER NOW ALONG SIXTH STREET, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR OUR KNOWLEDGE.

AND I'LL GO DOWN TO THE COUNSEL OF A HOPPER MADISON, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT HER RESOLUTION LAST WEEK IN THE EVENT THAT HAPPENED MIGHT ALLOW THE SAME THING TO BE DONE BY JUST MAKING AMENDMENTS TO THE, UH, UH, THE COMBINING DISTRICT OVERLAY, UH, THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

THAT MIGHT BE IN AN ADDITIONAL ROUTE THAT MIGHT BE SET UP FOR WHAT WAS DONE LAST WEEK.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY, MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE WAY, BUT REMEMBER HARPER, MADISON, DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? OKAY.

I DID.

I AM.

YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO FORGIVE ME.

UH, HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY IN THE ROOM CAN IDENTIFY WITH TOOTH PAIN.

IT'S, UH, MAYBE THE WORST FEELING EVER.

SO I'M GOING TO BE RELATIVELY QUIET TODAY, BUT I DO WANT TO PIPE IN AND JUST ASK, HOW WILL THIS RESOLUTION AFFECT THE PROGRESS OF THE ONE THAT WE INITIATED LAST WEEK IS MY ONLY QUESTION I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER TABLEAU'S RESOLUTION, AND MAYBE YOUR SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS MOVING FORWARD FOR PRESERVATION OF, YOU KNOW, A SPECIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, UH, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTIONS INCLUDE HOW DOES THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT COMPARE TO THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE? UM, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS, WHAT INFORMATION SHOULD WE BE SHARING WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHEN THEY ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? UM, WHAT DOES THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IMPLY? UH, I ESPECIALLY, UM, WANT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT FOR HOME.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MULTIPLE NATIONALLY REGISTERED AND ACKNOWLEDGED ASSETS, UM, AND DISTRICT ONE, BUT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I WON'T GO INTO THAT.

I WILL ASK.

SO IF WE COULD JUST FIND OUT WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION IN COMPARISON TO THE ONE WE PASSED LAST WEEK, UH, BY WAY OF TIMELINES WITH PROGRESS, AND THEN WHAT INFORMATION SHOULD WE BE SHARING WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS WHEN THEY ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WOULD DO.

AND THEN LASTLY, UM, THIS IS MORE OF A COMMENT THAN IT IS A QUESTION.

UM, YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT I TRY TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT SAYING, UM, AND THIS WAS SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND I CAN'T SAY THAT I DISAGREE WITH THEM.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CHANGED MULTIPLE, UH, THINGS THAT WE SAY, SO WE DON'T CALL IT.

UM, UH, WHAT, WHAT DID WE USED TO, BUT NOW I JUST REFERRED TO IT AS, UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATE.

SO WE CHANGED THAT WE WERE PHASING OUT THE USE OF THE WORD MASTER IN TERMS OF PLANNING AND OTHER THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UH, AS A BODY RECOGNIZING THAT.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE RECEIVING THE SAME FEEDBACK, BUT I'M RECEIVING FEEDBACK THAT WHEN WE USE EXPRESSIONS, LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, CODE FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

UM, AND I CAN'T SAY THAT I ENTIRELY DISAGREE.

SO I JUST LIKE TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE AS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS A BODY, IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO SAYING, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER OR THE PRESERVATION OF CHARACTER, I THINK FOR A LOT OF FOLKS THAT TRANSLATES INTO SOMETHING OFFENSIVE.

UM, BUT ALL THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED BEFORE.

AND I THINK THE FOURTH QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T GET THAT 51%, UH, OF THE, THE BUSINESSES, UM, THAT THIS WOULD AFFECT.

WHAT IF WE DON'T GET THAT 51% OF THEM THAT WANT THIS DESTINY NATION, IN WHICH CASE I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTARY FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY.

I THINK IT'S SUMMED UP WHAT I'M WONDERING ALSO.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED CONVERSATION, BUT ON ITS FACE, I DON'T SEE, UM, I DON'T SEE WHY THIS WOULD BE, UH, IN CONFLICT WITH THE RESOLUTION WE BROUGHT FORWARD.

JERRY,

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DO YOU WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? SURE.

CAN I ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT I THINK WAS DIRECTED TOWARD ME ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS IN CONFLICT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, I DON'T SEE IT AS IN CONFLICT, YOUR RESOLUTION SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR THE CREATION OF DESIGN STANDARDS THAT NOT TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I, IF I SAID THAT, THEN THAT, WASN'T WHAT I MEANT TO ARTICULATE.

WHAT I WAS ASKING WAS HOW DOES IT WORK IN COMBINATION WITH WHAT IT IS THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE FOR PROGRESS, NOT CONFLICT.

THAT, WASN'T WHAT I MEAN.

UM, I THINK, I THINK OF THE STAFF, IF WE CAN INITIATE IT THIS WEEK, I SEE IT AS IN SYNC IN TERMS OF TIMELINE.

THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY HOPE.

I THINK THE OTHER QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY BETTER FIELDED BY, UM, DIRECTOR, BY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, REST OF HIM, BUT IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT IS IN SYNC IN TERMS OF, UM, FOCUS, I THINK IT, I THINK IT IS A MECHANISM FOR DOING WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED HERE IN TERMS OF DESIGN GUIDELINES, CUSTOMER.

I AGREE.

I THINK THAT WE CAN DO BOTH OF THESE BECAUSE WE'RE BOTH TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE SAME GOAL.

WE CAN DO THEM SIDE BY SIDE AND I DON'T SEE ONE SLOWING DOWN THE OTHER.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON.

I HAVE A QUESTION AND I'M TRYING TO FORMULATE MY WORDS CORRECTLY, BUT IF THERE IS A BOTTOM UP APPROACH WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THESE STRUCTURES CAN INITIATE THIS PROCESS ON THEIR OWN, WHY WOULD WE AS A COUNCIL CREATE OUR OWN AND THEN GO ASK THEM TO LIKE, IT, I'VE NEVER DONE A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IF THE OWNERS COULD DO THIS ON THEIR OWN, WHY ARE WE NOT LETTING THEM KNOW OF THAT OPPORTUNITY AND JUST ADVISING THEM THAT THEY CAN COME REQUEST IT? UM, I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT'S COME SUBURB THOUGH, IS THEY HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE IN THE RESOLUTION FROM LAST WEEK, DIRECTING US TO GO WORK ON, UM, NEW SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR SIXTH STREET.

UM, BUT ALSO, UM, CONSIDER DESIGN IN THAT, IN THAT PROCESS, UM, THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, THEIR HISTORIC STRUCTURES AND, UM, UM, HOW TO SET STANDARDS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OR IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE STRUCTURES.

UM, SO I THINK THAT BOTH OF THESE THINGS, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP, FRANKLY, IN BETWEEN THESE TWO THINGS.

UM, AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE COULD GO ABOUT IT FRANKLY, EITHER WAY OR BOTH.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE COULD, COULD BE AN APPLICATION FOR A LOCAL STORE DISTRICT THAT COULD COME FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS AGAIN, WOULD I TAKE THIS RESOLUTION TO DO IS NOT ACTUALLY CREATE THE DISTRICT BECAUSE AS, UH, AS HAS BEEN STATED THAT EXTRA REQUIRES CONSOLE APPROVAL, UM, AND IT DOES REQUIRE THE EQUITY ESSENCE OF THE PROPERTY OURS IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

SO I SEE THIS AS DIRECTION TO GO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO, UM, SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST IN LOCAL STRUCK DISTRICT AND EXPLAINED TO THEM WHAT THAT MEANS.

SIDE-BY-SIDE TO THAT WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION TO POST PASS LAST WEEK THAT SAID, GO LOOK AT NEW SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR, UM, YOU SIXTH STREET AND CONSIDER DESIGN IN THAT.

SO I, I FRANKLY SEE THIS AS BEING, IT COULD BE ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH.

AND SO WHAT I SEE THIS AT THIS PAST IS GIVEN WHAT PASSED LAST WEEK.

THIS IS DIRECTION FOR US TO CONSIDER BOTH AND CONSIDER WHAT THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES ARE TO, UM, HAVING SOME, UM, TWO PROCESSES OR TWO THINGS HAPPEN SIDE BY SIDE.

SO IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THE ONE THAT WE PASSED LAST WEEK SEEMED MORE IN LINE WITH, YOU KNOW, GOING TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND FIGURING OUT WHAT DESIGN STANDARDS MIGHT WORK.

AND MAYBE THEY'RE THE SAME THING, AND THIS IS A MOOT POINT, BUT I WOULD JUST HATE FOR US TO END UP IN A SITUATION WHERE YOUR STAFF HAS PUT IN HOURS AND HOURS OF WORK.

AND THEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T BUY INTO IT AND DON'T NECESSARILY WANT, THEY DON'T WANT TO GET OVER THAT 50 PLUS 1%.

AND I JUST, IN, IN THIS DAY AND AGE WOULD HATE FOR STAFF TO BE WORKING ON THINGS THAT JUST DON'T PAN OUT IN THE LONG RUN, BECAUSE I JUST KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT A LOT ON THEIR PLATE RIGHT NOW, AND I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT.

WELL, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

TRUST ME.

I DO.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT A LOT OF THIS WORK WOULD BE DONE EITHER WAY, GIVEN WHAT PASSED LAST WEEK.

SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN A, UH, UM, UH, UH, DUPLICATION OF WORK IF YOU CAN'T REMEMBER HARPER MANAGEMENT.

YOU KNOW, UM, HOW DO WHEN WE RECEIVE, BECAUSE INEVITABLY WE WILL RECEIVE, UH, QUESTIONS FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE SIXTH STREET, UH, DISTRICT, IF IT DOES BECOME A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHAT ARE THE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS? UM, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO ANSWER THAT TODAY, MR. RUSSELL, BUT I WAS JUST ADDING THAT TO MY LIST.

I APPRECIATE THAT TRANSFER OVER.

YOU JUST BROUGHT ABOUT ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I'VE FORGOTTEN.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTARY.

I WAS ALSO WONDERING, UM, SO THIS WAS WHEN I WAS ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT I WAS THINKING EARLIER.

WE HAVE SOME ASSETS IN DISTRICT ONE THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED THE DISTRICT AND, OR THE FACILITY HAS BEEN DESIGNATED HISTORIC, AND THAT OPERATED AS A BARRIER FOR FORWARD PROGRESS FOR SOME OF OUR OWNERS, PRIVATE OWNERS OF BUILDINGS THAT HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED HISTORIC AND WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN DISTRICT WITHIN NCCD.

I I'M RECOGNIZING THAT WE ARE MORE AND MORE HAVING TO SORT OF HELP CONSTITUENTS NAVIGATE THROUGH, UH, THE IMPLICATION OF THE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS.

AND THAT'S, THAT WAS THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE,

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SO THAT MAKES FIVE QUESTIONS.

THERE'S ONE REALLY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.

I THINK HERE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS WEEK AND WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK, LAST WEEK'S CODE AMENDMENTS ARE SPECIFIC TO THE TWO BLOCKS THAT WOULD FURTHER THE REQUEST OF STREAM REALTY.

UM, THIS WOULD BE A MORE HOLISTIC.

THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF THIS RESOLUTION MAY, OR YOU HAD LANGUAGE ABOUT LAST WEEK'S, UM, ABOUT ADDITIONAL SMALL AREA PLANNING OR PROCESS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR INITIATING THE COUNCIL HAS INITIATED CHANGES TO THOSE TWO BLOCKS.

I THINK THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES GOING TO BE FOR THAT DISTRICT MORE GENERALLY? AND SO THIS IS MAYBE WHAT IS HAPPENING AS PART OF LAST WEEK'S RESOLUTION IS NOT, IS NOT A PLANNING EFFORT FOR THE WHOLE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, IT ASKS FOR DESIGN GUIDELINES, BUT THOSE GUIDELINES REALLY NEED TO BE FOR THE WHOLE SIXTH STREET DISTRICT, NOT JUST THOSE TWO BLOCKS.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, I MEAN, IT WAS DESIGNED, THOSE WERE DESIGNED TO GET AWAY FROM THE KIND OF INVESTMENT THAT IT TOOK FROM THE CITY STAFF IN WORKING THROUGH INDIVIDUAL LANDLORD CASES.

AND SO I THINK THERE ARE, UM, ADVANTAGES TO IT.

I ALSO WANT TO GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE INITIATION BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S EXACTLY TRUE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN'T, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY TRUE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THE COOPERATION, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, YOU JUST ASKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE INSTITUTING A SET OF REGULATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CUMBERSOME? THE PROPERTY OWNERS THEMSELVES ARE INVOLVED IN THE CONSTRUCT AND THE CONVERSATION AROUND THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES.

THERE ARE SET DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT ARE MODIFIED, AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE AN ACTIVE ROLE.

AND FRANKLY IT WOULD BE ALMOST CERTAINLY UNLIKELY TO PASS.

IF, IF THERE'S NOT STRONG, BUY-IN FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

I REMEMBER KELLY.

UM, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY OWNERS NOW I'M WONDERING COUNCIL MEMBER TOVA HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ANY OF THEM AND TO WHAT EXTENT AND WHAT FEEDBACK HAVE YOU GOTTEN? SO THE MAJOR PROPERTY OWNER, AS I MENTIONED IS STREAM REALTY.

THEY OWN 61%.

AND, AND THAT, AND I HAVE TALKED WITH MR. SUTTLE, UM, ABOUT IT.

AND I ALSO REACHED OUT TO CAITLYN RYAN THOUGH.

SHE'S NOT LAST WEEK, BUT SHE'S NOT RESPONDED.

AND COULD YOU MAYBE SHARE WITH US SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GOT SURE I'M GOING TO DO THIS CAREFULLY.

SO I'M GOING TO READ BACK THE TEXT THAT I GOT FROM YOU, MR. SUTTLE, LAST WEEK BEFORE I POSTED IT, WE'VE HAD SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS AND I DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T USUALLY HAVE SPEAKERS AT HERE AT THE WORK SESSION, SO I WON'T INVITE THEM TO SPEAK, BUT THIS IS LAST FRIDAY BEFORE POSTED INITIAL REACTION IS IF IT CAN GO FAST AND DESIGN STANDARDS MAKE SENSE, IT MAY BE OKAY.

YOU KNOW, DEMOLISH ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES, UM, UH, UP AND DOWN SIXTH STREET.

I MEAN, AFTER MY DISCUSSION, I'LL CHARACTERIZE MY DISCUSSION WITH MR. SUTTLE THIS MORNING.

I, IN MY CONVERSATIONS, I'LL GIVE YOU MY IMPRESSION IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH STREAM REALTY.

UM, I SENSED THAT THEY, I, I, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE VERY COMMITTED TO THE HISTORIC FABRIC OF SIXTH STREET AND SUPPORT, UH, THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT AND HAVE RESPECT FOR IT AND, AND DESIRE TO ENHANCE THAT'S.

THAT'S THE IMPRESSION I GOT FROM MY, FROM MY MEETINGS WITH THEM, THAT THEY DESIRE THEIR DEVELOPMENT TO REALLY ENHANCE THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, NOT TO KIND OF PROMPT A MAJOR REDEVELOPMENT OF SIXTH STREET THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD RESULT IN, IN A LOSS OF HISTORIC, UM, STRUCTURES AND HISTORIC AND THAT HISTORIC LANDSCAPE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS I SEE THIS ACTION, I THINK IT'S VERY MUCH IN CONCERT WITH, WITH WHAT I UNDERSTOOD TO BE THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY OF THAT AREA.

THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.

BUT AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO CHOOSE MY WORDS CAREFULLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CHARACTERIZE THEIR DISPOSITION ON IT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S HOW THOSE THINGS ALIGN.

HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH CONSTITUENTS AND GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM THEM IN THE AREA? YEAH, I'VE SPOKEN TO A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS OUT IN THE PUBLIC, UM, I CERTAINLY HAVE HEARD FROM CONSTITUENTS AND OTHERS WHO ARE, UM, FRANKLY WONDERING, WONDERING HOW THE REDEVELOPED, THE PRETTY MAJOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THOSE TWO BLOCKS COULD IMPACT THE REST OF IT AND WHETHER, WHETHER WE WILL NEXT SEE, UM, REQUESTS TO,

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AND, AND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS DISPOSITION TOWARD THAT NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS YET, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE OUT THERE FROM MEMBERS OF THE PRESERVATION COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF OTHERS WHO, WHO WANT TO SUPPORT THIS REDEVELOPMENT, BUT DO WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT HAPPENS WITHIN A STRUCTURE THAT, THAT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THIS AREA IS A, IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND NEEDS TO BE TREATED DIFFERENT, BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN, YOU KNOW, GREENFIELD.

THANKS FOR THE QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? I THINK THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING CONVERSATION.

SO I JUST WOULD SAY ON, ON THURSDAY WHEN PEOPLE ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF, IF THERE'S ANY FOLKS THAT ARE IN FAVOR OR HAVE CONCERNS, JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE WAY THAT THIS IS BEING COUNCIL INITIATED WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE TYPICALLY IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, OH, OWNER INITIATED.

SO I WOULD JUST, SINCE IT'S MY FIRST TIME THROUGH THIS, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO HAVE THAT FOR ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO THAT.

AND MY HOPE IS WITH THE ITEM BEING POSTPONED, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

IT WILL BE FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, W WHICH ITEM POSTS THEN MAYOR I DIDN'T INTEND TO POST AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO YEAH, AND I WOULD JUST SAY IN ANSWER TO MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER LS ONE, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE CODE BECAUSE I, I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN STRONG, IF NOT, UM, ACTUAL INITIATIONS, STRONG PROACTIVE ACTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL THAT HAVE RESULTED IN, IN, UM, LOCAL HISTORIC WORK HAPPENING.

I ALSO SEE THIS AS VERY DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS BECAUSE WHAT THE ACTION THE COUNCIL TOOK LAST WEEK WAS INITIATING, UM, CODE AMENDMENTS FOR A PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER.

AND SO I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT IS, UM, I THINK IT IS IN LINE AGAIN IN LINE WITH, WITH THE GENERAL PROCESS THAT'S BEEN SET IN PLACE HERE FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE AN ACTION.

ALL RIGHT, GUYS, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING MADISON, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UH, ONE LAST QUESTION.

I JUST HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO AND HER LAST COMMENTARY JUST BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS HAS I USED THE WORD DEMOLITION.

AND SO WHILE WE'RE ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO SPECIFIC POINT ON THURSDAY, I'D LIKE VERY MUCH FOR SOMEBODY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF OUR USE OF THE WORD DEMOLITION.

I THINK WHEN PEOPLE HEAR THAT THEY HEAR US CLEAR AND OUT ALL THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS ON SIXTH STREET.

SO I WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AND EXPLICIT ABOUT OUR USE OF WORDS THAT SCARE PEOPLE.

UM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEMOLITION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY THAT.

SO DOES THAT MEAN, UM, WE ARE DEMOLISHING A BUILDING THAT'S CONDEMNED, OR, YOU KNOW, CAN'T BE BUILT AROUND AND WE'RE PRESERVING THE FACADE AND WE'RE GONNA REINTRODUCE THAT TO NEW CONSTRUCTION.

DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT EXIST NOW AND BUILD ABOVE AND AROUND THEM AND PRESERVE THE HISTORIC BUILD? I'D LIKE FOR SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE SPECIFIC IMPLICATIONS ABOUT OUR USE OF THE WORD DEMOLITION.

AND MERRILL, JUST SAY THAT IS, UM, I MADE AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR RESOLUTION LAST WEEK THAT ASKS FOR THAT, FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO DO JUST THAT VERY WORK AS THE CODE AMENDMENTS PROCEED.

UM, I'VE GOT A LIST OF PROPOSED DEMOLITIONS AND THAT'S THEIR LANGUAGE THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED TO ME IN TERMS OF ADDRESSES OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED DEMOLISHING.

AND SO, UM, THERE IS LIKELY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ABOUT EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS WITH THEIR REDEVELOPMENT, BUT, BUT THAT IS IN ESSENCE WHAT, WHAT THEY'VE PROPOSED DOING.

AND AS WE LOOK AT THE REST OF THE STREET, UM, YES, I THINK, I THINK WE DO NEED TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT, ABOUT, UM, WHEN AND HOW THOSE WOULD BE DEMOLITIONS WOULD BE, UM, CONSIDERED.

I WOULD JUST ADD TO YOUR LIST, ANY TAX IMPLICATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALREADY COVERED UNDER THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT IF THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE WITH THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT ABOUT A TAX REVENUE, I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF NOW ALL OF THE, UH, POLE ITEMS PARANTHETICALLY, UM, COUNCILMEMBER, THIS WANTED ME TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THE REASON SHE'S NOT HERE, IT DOESN'T FEEL IT'S BECAUSE SHE HAS COVID.

UH, SO, UH, SHE WANTED ME TO ANNOUNCE THAT JUST BECAUSE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE OUT IN THE PUBLIC A LOT, UH, AND, AND, AND, AND SHE JUST WANTS EVERYBODY TO, TO, TO KNOW THAT IN CASE, UH, THEY WERE AROUND HER, UH, OVER THE LAST, UH, LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.

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WE'VE NOW HANDLED ALL THE PULL ITEMS. ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO MENTION? CASPER DEAUVILLE COUNCIL MEMBER FRONT IS I'M REALLY SORRY TO HEAR THAT HOPE YOU HAVE A SPEEDY RECOVERY.

UM, I JUST WANT TO ASK OUR STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY AT 25 TO 2 42, THE INITIATION OF ZONING OR REZONING.

UM, I S I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNCIL, I THINK THAT THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT WORKS LIKE ANY OTHER CODE AMENDMENT, UM, OR ANY OTHER REZONING, AND THAT THE COUNCIL CAN INITIATE IT, BUT PERHAPS WE CAN TAKE A CAREFUL LOOK AT IT.

ANYTHING ELSE COMES TO OUR HARPER, MADISON, UH, MAYOR.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT, UM, UH, BUSTED UP HOW THE PR HOW OUR PROCESS SHOULD WORK HERE, BUT THE OPPORTUNITY EARLIER TO SPEAK ABOUT SPEED ENFORCEMENT.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF FOLKS IN THE ADA COMMUNITY WHO WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO ME DOING SOME ADVOCACY AROUND TRAFFIC VIOLENCE AND JUST SHARING A FEW WORDS.

AND SO IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO GO BACK NOW, I WILL, IT WOULD BE IF YOU WANT, IT WOULD BE FINE.

WE KNOW THEY HAPPEN EVEN, YOU KNOW, THE CRO REPORT AND SOME OF THE OTHER REPORTING THAT WE'VE HAD ALONG THE WAY IMPLIES THAT WE HAVE SOME, SOME GROWING TO DO THERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST PUT SOME, SOME HIGHLIGHTS AROUND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN VERY SEVERELY, EXCUSE ME, IMPACTED BY TRAFFIC VIOLENCE.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME WORK BEING DONE BY, AND THE MUELLER DISTRICT, UM, HER NEPHEW, UH, WAS VICTIM OF TRAFFIC VIOLENCE.

ALSO, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY JUST GOING TOO FAST.

SO I FULLY EMBRACE, UH, THE IDEA THAT WE NEED TO DO A LOT MORE WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING OUR STREETS AND ROADWAYS SAFER PLACES FOR ALL USERS.

I HAD A REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION, UM, YESTERDAY TENSE, BUT GREAT CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH SOME CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE CONCERNS AROUND GENERAL TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY SAFETY.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING AND THAT WE'RE ANSWERING THE CALL.

UM, NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER A TRAUMATIC INJURY OR LOSE THEIR LIFE, YOU KNOW, DURING THE SIMPLE COURSE OF GETTING FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

AND, UH, AGAIN, I'LL POINT OUT THAT MY FAMILY SUFFERING OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT NEVER STOPS FOR SOME FAMILIES, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S BRIEF AND PAINFUL AND, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE'S THE GRIEVING.

AND SOMETIMES IT JUST LASTS FOREVER.

AND WITH MY FAMILY SITUATION, IT'S JUST A FOREVER SITUATION THAT, UH, COMPROMISED MY FAMILY MEMBERS' ABILITIES.

AND, UM, HAVING TO ADDRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST THINKING SOMEBODY WAS JUST GOING TOO FAST, RIGHT.

AND WE CAN DO BETTER, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ITEM BEING BROUGHT FORWARD.

I THINK OUR LONGTERM GOALS SHOULD REALLY, UM, BE IMPLEMENTING SAFER DESIGNS THAT ENCOURAGE SAFER BEHAVIORS IN MODES.

AND BY THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING THAT I KNOW, UH, MEMBERS OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUBSEQUENTLY MY CONSTITUENTS GET FRUSTRATED ABOUT IS WHENEVER THERE'S A BALL GAME AT UT, UM, EVERYBODY PARKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE STREETS ARE COMPLETELY LINED FOR BLOCKS AT A TIME WITH CARS OF PEOPLE THAT WALK OVER TO THE BALL FIELD.

AND I KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE UPSET ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CARS PARKED EVERYWHERE, BUT I PERSONALLY REALLY LIKED THAT THERE'S CARS PARKED EVERYWHERE BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, MY ROAD IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HIGHWAYS SO WIDE AND PEOPLE GO SO FAST.

AND SO ALL OUR PETS, ALL OUR KIDS ARE ELDERLY.

EVERYBODY'S AT RISK WHEN PEOPLE ARE FLYING DOWN THIS RESIDENTIAL STREET JUST TO GET TO A STOP SIGN, YOU KNOW, 50 YARDS AHEAD.

IT'S A, IT'S JUST, IT'S RIDICULOUS.

AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, FRANKLY IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.

AND SO I APPRECIATE WATCHING THOSE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THAT GET INTRODUCED THAT WAY.

YOU JUST HAVE MORE CARS ON THE STREET.

SO WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ALLOWING PARKING ON THE STREET, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE SPEED, HUMPS, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO REALLY, UM, ENCOURAGE SAFER DESIGN.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE START.

I THINK THAT FRANKLY IS EASIER THAN CHANGING HUMAN BEHAVIOR.

UM, SO REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING A PART OF THAT ROBUST DIALOGUE MOVING FORWARD, UM, I AM FULLY AWARE I HAVE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT ALSO HAS DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED BLACK BROWN AND MARGINALIZED RESIDENTS AGAIN.

UM, I THINK OUR CONSTITUENTS SHOULD KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT THAT WE BRING TO THE COUNCIL INCLUDES OUR PERSONAL AND LIVED EXPERIENCES.

SO MY FAMILY HAS ALSO BEEN VERY SEVERELY IMPACTED BY THE DISPROPORTIONATE OUTCOMES THAT HAPPENED WITH RACIAL PROFILING AND SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT HAPPEN WHEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM RUNG PEOPLE EXISTING IN POVERTY.

YOU KNOW, I SAY ALL THE TIME IT'S EXPENSIVE TO BE POOR, YOU KNOW, AND I TALK ABOUT PEOPLE RIDING DIRTY.

SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, THAT SNOWBALL EFFECT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT GET AFFECTED, YOU KNOW, BY WAY OF THAT DISPROPORTIONATE ENFORCEMENT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

IT SHOULDN'T BE JUST ONE DISTRICT OR ONE PERSON WITH THE EXPERIENCE.

WE ALL NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, WITH, UH, WITH TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

UM, SO I WANT TO BE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE BUILDING IN SAFEGUARDS TO REALLY PREVENT RACIAL PROFILING AND GRATUITOUS STOPS.

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SO I HOPE AS A COMMUNITY, ALL OF US, UM, GROW IN THAT WAY.

SO I'M, I'M PROUD OF THE REVISED TRAINING THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN IMPLIED THAT WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO, AND I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS MORE WORK TO DO I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IT.

UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT OUR POLICE ACADEMY, LIKE WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED, THAT'S THE START AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET THE START, RIGHT.

I THINK THE OUTCOMES ARE BETTER FOR EVERYBODY.

UM, SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE START RIGHT, AND BETTER OUTCOMES.

UM, I WOULD EXPECT THAT ANYONE WHO PATROLS OUR STREETS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF OUR CONSTABLES AND YOU ALL DO TOO.

THEY WORKED SO HARD.

I WOULD SUSPECT THAT ANYBODY WORKING OUR STREETS ON THE CITY'S DIME WOULD HAVE THAT SAME TRAINING THAT OUR OFFICERS DO.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE LAST THING I'D LEAVE YOU WITH ON THIS POINT, REALLY, REALLY HAPPY THAT THE ITEM IS COMING FORWARD IN THE WAY THAT IT IS.

I THINK IT'S COMPREHENSIVE AND ROBUST.

SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT FORWARD.

BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE, UH, SESSION, UM, GINSBERG TOVO YOU HAD WANTED TO GET US BACK TO WORK SESSION ON THIS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A SHORT COMMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A SPEED BUMP.

I HAVE A STREET THAT I LIVE ON.

THAT'S RUNS ABOUT THREE BLOCKS LONG.

I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ONE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW.

SO I RECOMMEND ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WANTS THAT SPEED BUMP IN THERE.

AND THEY'RE DESPERATE TO START EARLY IS I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN MINE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO MOVE FORWARD.

WE'VE DONE ALL THE PULLED ITEMS. LET'S MOVE TO SPEAKERS.

[D1. Discussion regarding public speaker process at City Council Meetings.]

I DID.

UM, AND I THINK SOMEWHERE I HAVE THE LANGUAGE, THE CODE LANGUAGE.

SO I THINK, I THINK A FEW THINGS HAVE SHIFTED AS WE'VE, AS WE'VE MOVED BACK AND FORTH IN BETWEEN, UM, HYBRID AND VIRTUAL AND IN-PERSON MEETINGS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I POINTED OUT LAST WEEK IS THAT THE RULES ARE ACTUALLY, AND THE ORDINANCE THAT WE USE TO ADOPT THE ROUTE TO APPROVE THE RULES ACTUALLY SAYS IT'S THE FIRST 20 INDIVIDUALS ON A PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA MORE FULLY.

SO I THINK THAT WAS THE, A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING LAST WEEK.

MAYOR IS THAT THE RULES THAT WE'VE APPROVED ARE REALLY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEM, IF THERE ARE HUGE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, THE REDUCTIONS HAPPEN WITHIN THAT AGENDA ITEM, NOT OVERALL.

SO THAT'S ONE THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE, AND IF WE'RE REALLY PRESSED FOR TIME TODAY MAY NOT BE THE WAY TO DO IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO FIGURE OUT HOW IN THIS HYBRID SYSTEM WE GET TO, WE GET BACK TO HEARING COMMENTARY ON ISSUES.

LIKE IN, IN CHUNKS, I FIND IT REALLY, REALLY CONFUSING, UM, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND AGAIN, ON THE ZONING AGENDA, WHEN WE'RE JUMPING BACK AND FORTH AMONG ISSUES, IT JUST MAKES IT REALLY HARD TO, TO KIND OF UNDER, TO FOLLOW.

I MEAN, I CAN'T FOLLOW IT, BUT IT JUST, I THINK IT MAKES IT MORE CHALLENGING WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE SWITCHING AMONG SPEAKERS AND AMONG DIFFERENT ISSUES.

AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH HOW THE CLERK PULLS THOSE FOLKS IN THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY BETTER UNDERSTAND, BUT THE REAL, THE MAIN ISSUE I WANTED TO ADDRESS, UH, TODAY IS THE SPEAKING THE SPEAKING TIMES.

CAUSE I THINK WE'VE JUST, I THINK WE'VE LOST TRACK OF WHAT THAT ROLE REALLY WAS.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT SPEAKING TIMES IN PARTICULAR, WHEN WE HAVE THE BROADER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GROUPS, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO DO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE DIOCESE WANTS TO DO FOR ME.

I LIKE HAVING THE COMMENTS IN THE MORNING, CAUSE I THINK IT HELPS SPEAKERS BE ABLE TO SIGN UP AND SPEAK AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ALL DAY.

UM, AND, AND I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY PREFER THAT I'VE ALSO HEARD OTHER PEOPLE WANTING TO COME IN.

IT'S EASIER TO DO TIME MANAGEMENT IN, IN MEETINGS, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE ALL THE SPEAKERS, UH, AS IT WERE, AS WE'VE BEEN DOING IT.

SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROS AND CONS.

SO WHEN WE GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION, WE WILL DO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.

UH, BUT WE CAN FOCUS TODAY'S CONVERSATION ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE GIVE TO SPEAKERS TO SPEAK.

MAKES IT, IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE CHALLENGING FOR SPEAKERS NOT TO REPEAT WHAT THE PREVIOUS PERSON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A BUILDING ON THE NARRATIVE THAT JUST HAPPENS DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THE SPEAKERS ON ONE ITEM, TALKING IN A CLUMP.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I WASN'T REALLY SUGGESTING WHEN WE DO IT IN THE COURSE OF THE DAY NECESSARILY I WAS TALKING ABOUT, CAN WE STRIVE FOR ORGANIZING THE SPEAKERS SO THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY ON ISSUE NUMBER ONE AND THEN ISSUE NUMBER EIGHT AND THEN WE'RE BACK TO ONE AND THEN WE'RE ON TO NINE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT JUST GOES, IT GOES, UM, AND THE SAME THING HAPPENS WITH SAUTEING AND IT JUST

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AND I KNOW THAT'S WILDLY CHALLENGING WITH THE VIRTUAL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE FOR THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SOLVE FOR IT, BUT, BUT WE CAN SOLVE FOR THE SPEAKERS WHO ARE IN PERSON POTENTIALLY.

BUT, UM, AND I DID FIND THE, I DID FIND THE LANGUAGE I WAS SEEKING AND THAT IS IN 1, 1 9 OF OUR PROCEDURES MANUAL.

IT IS THE FIRST 20 SPEAKERS ON AN AGENDA ITEM, GET THREE MINUTES EACH.

AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT SPEAKERS GET ONE UNIT UNLESS WE ALTER IT OR UNLESS YOU PROPOSE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, AS A COUNCIL, UM, OVERRIDE IT, BUT IT WAS AGAIN, JUST AN AGENDA ITEM, NOT OVERALL.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S AN, A REALLY IMPORTANT WHATEVER THE TIMEFRAMES WE END UP WITH ARE, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO PASS, BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, 30 PEOPLE WHO COME DOWN AND WANT TO SPEAK TO IT.

AND IF THEY'RE THE FIRST 30 PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, WELL, THEY WOULD BE TRUNCATING EVERYBODY.

ELSE'S TIME ON ALL OF THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE COMING TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM 10 AND THEIR COMMENTS THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT THEY'RE ONLY AT ONE MINUTE BECAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT WAS REALLY POPULAR.

SO I DON'T, I WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN CONCERT WITH WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IN TERMS OF MANAGING THE MEETINGS.

I DON'T THINK WE INTENDED TO TRUNCATE PEOPLE'S TIMES ON ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM.

IF THERE WERE A TON OF SPEAKERS ON ONE OF THEM, NO.

AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO STAY THERE AS WE, IN ORDER TO AVOID THAT.

WE'VE BEEN GIVING EVERYBODY THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPEAKING TIME WHERE THE FIRST SPEAKER OR THE LAST SPEAKER, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE HAVE VARIED THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT SPEAKERS HAVE BASED IN PART ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP.

SO AS TO KEEP US, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING WITH, WITHIN AN HOUR OR TWO OF, OF SPEAKER TIME IN THE MORNING OR AN HOUR AND TWO SPEAKER TIME IN THE AFTERNOON, NEVER HAVING LESS THAN ONE MINUTE AND NEVER HAVING MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, UH, BUT TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THAT VARIATION WITHIN THAT HOUR TO TWO HOUR PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN SETTING IT.

UM, UM, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY, WE CAN CERTAINLY VERY, VERY FROM THAT.

SO IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 20 SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, WE, WE GIVE THEM THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

IF WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, UH, IT, IT GOES DOWN TO TWO A MINUTE, UH, UH, EACH EXCEPT FOR THOSE THINGS THAT COUNCIL HAS SAID, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND WE WANT TO HAVE MORE TIME FOR SPEAKERS TO SPEAK TO, TO, TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

IN WHICH CASE WE HAVE VERY, THAT DESIRE.

IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON THESE NUMBERS, THEN YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

SO THAT'S THE PRACTICE WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR THE LAST, UM, SINCE THEN, SINCE THE PANDEMIC, I GUESS IT JUST DIDN'T, IT WASN'T APPARENT THAT THAT, THAT WE WERE NOT FOLLOWING OUR SPEAKER RULES ON THAT FRONT, UM, UNTIL WE HAD THE SITUATION LAST WEEK WHERE WE WERE SO MANY OF THE SPEAKERS WERE, YOU KNOW, FOR ONE OR TWO ITEMS. AND AGAIN, I GUESS I THINK THAT, I THINK WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND, AND HEAR AS MANY DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AS POSSIBLE.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE 40, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PEOPLE ON ONE ITEM, IT JUST MAKES SENSE IF, IF WE HAVE TO LIMIT, IT MAKES SENSE TO LIMIT ON THE ITEMS WHERE YOU HAVE MANY, MANY SPEAKERS, RATHER THAN THE ITEMS WHERE YOU HAVE MAYBE JUST A COUPLE, MAYBE JUST ONE.

UM, I THINK THAT THE POINTS THAT, UM, KATHY'S BRINGING UP ARE, ARE REALLY GOOD ONES.

UM, I, I HAD MISSED, UH, THE PART ABOUT EARLY SIGN UP.

PEOPLE GET THE FULL TIME OR MORE TIME THAN OTHERS, EVEN IF THEY'RE SPEAKING ON SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO PASS AND MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH INPUT ON THAT.

ESTABLISHED SIDES ON THE ISSUE, IN WHICH CASE SOMETIMES PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AND SAY, THESE ARE THE 10 SPEAKERS THAT, THAT WOULD BEST BE ABLE TO LAY OUT THE PRO CASE OR THE CON CASE.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE DID THE, THE FIRST 20, YET THREE THAT'S WHEN WE WERE CALLING UP PEOPLE BY ITEM NUMBER WITH AN ITEM THAT WAS CONTROVERSIAL, NOT ONE THAT WAS THIS, THIS PREDATES THAT.

SO THE, THE 20 PLUS THE 21ST 20 SPEAKERS SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.

AND THEN ONE MINUTE WE DID PRIOR TO KIND OF COVID AND WE DID IT BY PRO AND BY ITEM NUMBER.

SO, SO IT WAS TRUE THAT THE EARLIEST THAT SIGN UP ON THAT NUMBER GOT THE THREE MINUTES, UH, THE LATERS THAT SIGNED UP ON THAT NUMBER GOT THE ONE MINUTE EXCEPT WHERE, UH, THERE WAS PRETTY CLEARLY

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IN WHICH CASE I VARIED FROM THE FIRST SIGN-UP RULE TO SAY, OKAY, THESE 10 PEOPLE WILL GO FIRST AND THEY'LL BE THE ONES TO GET THE THREE MINUTES ON EACH SIDE.

AND OTHER PEOPLE GET ONE MINUTE.

AND I, AND I THINK, I THINK THAT MAY BE WHERE YOU, WHAT YOU WANT TO GET BACK TO.

THAT'S WHAT OUR RULE IS SAYING.

THAT'S EXACTLY.

THAT'S EXACTLY IT.

SO, SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

UM, WHAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO DO IS RESOLVE IT SO THAT WE DON'T SPEND, UM, PRECIOUS TIME ON THE DAYAS DURING A MEETING, TRYING TO DECIDE HOW MANY MINUTES PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET.

SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT SETTLED BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET TO A MEETING FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE REASONS.

SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING TIME ARGUING ABOUT TIME ON THE DIES.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING NOW, YOU KNOW, TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT THE RULES, WHAT WE WE'VE BEEN MORE DYNAMICALLY INVOLVED IN LOOKING AT THE SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP THE THINGS THEY'VE SIGNED UP ON THE NUMBERS OF SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN VARYING IT KIND OF IN A MEETING MANAGEMENT KIND OF WAY.

AGAIN, TRYING TO KEEP SPEAKERS TO AN HOUR TO TWO HOURS IN THE MORNING, AN HOUR TO TWO HOURS IN THE AFTERNOON, NEVER GOING LESS THAN ONE, NEVER GOING MORE THAN THREE.

UM, THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THAT WAY, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE COULD DO IS JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS SIGNED UP ON ITEM, THE FIRST 20 PEOPLE OR 20 PEOPLE ON EACH ITEM GET THREE MINUTES.

UM, THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SPEAKER TIME.

WE HAVE BOTH IN THE MORNING AND IN THE, IN THE AFTERNOON, IF WE WERE TO, TO, TO DO THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE CHOICE THAT IS, IS PRESENTED.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EMAILS AND OTHER FORMS OF COMMUNICATION.

I DO THINK IN PERSON IS THE MOST IMPACTFUL AS OPPOSED TO BEING ON, ON, UM, A PHONE LINE INTO THE MEETING BECAUSE OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH TECHNOLOGY.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE OVERCOME MANY ISSUES WITH THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF TO THREE YEARS.

UM, BUT WE DO STILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET AND TALK WITH PEOPLE BEFORE MEETINGS.

WE GET OUR EMAILS, I'LL ALL OF OUR STAFF THEY'RE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN RESEARCHING AND ANSWERING PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS AND CONVEYING TO US THE INPUT FROM, UM, OUR CONSTITUENCIES THAT WE GET BY EMAIL.

AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THAT THERE ARE MANY FORMS OF, OF CONNECTING WITH US AND, AND FOR FOLKS WHO ARE TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY, UM, TO TALK WITH US, UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE AND VALUE THOSE INPUTS.

AND I THINK ALL OF US WANT TO HAVE MULTIPLE OPEN CHANNELS FOR THAT INFORMATION TO BE CONVEYED TO US.

YES, CATHERINE, THANK YOU.

UM, I'VE SPENT SOME TIME TALKING TO CONSTITUENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I'VE HEARD THAT THE VERY TIME SINCE THE WRONG IMPRESSION TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, IT IT'S BEEN GIVEN TO ME AS FEEDBACK IS WHEN THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND EXPECTATIONS, NOT SET AHEAD OF TIME.

THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR TIME IS NOT VALUED FROM US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THAT WE SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE.

AND I, I KNOW THAT I HAD REQUESTED SOME BEST PRACTICES FROM OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY HANDLE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE FEEDBACK ABOUT? IF NOT THAT'S OKAY.

I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO ONE OF THEIR COUNCIL MEETINGS.

A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THEY HAVE B SESSION AND A SESSION.

A SESSION IS OUR COUNCIL MEETING SIMILAR TO THEIRS AND B SESSION IS THEIR WORK SESSION.

AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON WEDNESDAYS FOLLOWING THEIR B SESSION, WHICH JUST ALLOWS FOR MORE TIME.

AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ABLE TO GO BACK AND SPEAK WITH THE SPEAKERS.

IF THEY HAVE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS, I FEEL THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLVE A LOT OF OUR TIME MANAGEMENT ISSUES AND ALLOWING PEOPLE THE TIME THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE TO SPEAK BY ALLOWING AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY DURING OUR COUNCIL WEEKS TO GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM THEM.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AS AN OPTION, IF IT MIGHT BE THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO PROVIDE THAT, I THINK IT MIGHT BE IMPACTFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE THEM FEEL MORE VALUED.

IT'S OVER AT ALLIES THING, COUNCIL MEMBER, BELLA, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I KNOW YOU AND YOUR TEAM DO A LOT OF WORK BEFORE THOSE MEETINGS TRYING TO GET THE TIMING.

THAT WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO FOLLOW OUR, OUR DEBATES AND OUR DELIBERATIONS, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE VOTING, I KNOW IT'S EXTREMELY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO BE UP.

UM, SO I ALSO WANT TO BALANCE THE EXPECTATION OF, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, HOW LATE ARE WE GOING? NOT JUST BECAUSE WHEN WE ENDED UP GOING INTO THE LATE HOURS OF THE NIGHT, MAYBE WE'RE NOT DOING, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR BEST WORK BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ON THE DIETS FOR OVER 12 HOURS, BUT ALSO

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UM, YOU KNOW, THE LATEST MEETING THAT I'VE BEEN AT ENDED AT FOUR 18 IN THE MORNING, AND, UH, WE VERY QUICKLY HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR PUBLIC INPUT AND ALSO TO BE RESPECTFUL OF, UM, NOT WORKING IN THE LATE NIGHT HOURS WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T FOLLOW OUR DIALOGUES VERY WELL, AND THEY WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THE NIGHT ENDED.

AND SO I KNOW IT'S A REALLY CAREFUL BALANCE OF, OF TRYING TO MANAGE THAT TIME.

AND SO I APPRECIATE HAVING KIND OF THAT MORNING BLOCK AND THEN THE ZONING SPEAKER BLOCK, UM, AND KIND OF HAVING AN EXPECTATION OF HOW, HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO GO? BECAUSE WE, WE DO NEED TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS, THE DAY THAT WE VOTE ON THEM, OR AT LEAST IN THE SAME MEETING.

I ALSO KNOW THAT OUR MEETINGS CAN GO FOR 48 HOURS BEFORE HAVING TO BE REPOSTING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST REALLY DIFFICULT STRATEGIES TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY FEELS LIKE THEIR VOICE IS BEING HEARD AND THAT, UM, AND THAT WE ALSO CAN MAKE SURE TO TRY TO DO OUR DELIBERATIONS IN A TIMELY FASHION.

SO PEOPLE KNOW, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE VOTING ON THINGS AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

UM, I AGREE WITH BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS HAS COMMENTS, AND PARTICULARLY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KELLEY'S COMMENTS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET, UM, CITIZEN COMMENTARY THE SAME DAY AS A COUNCIL MEETING AND HAVE THAT COMMENTARY REALLY HAVE ANY KIND OF FOLLOW UP, OR IT'S HONESTLY HARD TO FOCUS ON THE COMMENTARY WHEN WE'RE OFTEN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON ITEMS AND LAST MINUTE CHANGES AND AMENDMENTS AND OUR STAFF IS VERY BUSY ON THOSE COUNCIL DAYS.

I WOULD, I APPRECIATE THE, THE EXAMPLE OF, UH, SAN ANTONIO, I THINK MOVING CITIZEN COMMENTARY OVER TO, FOR EXAMPLE, WORK SESSION DAYS WITH SOME TIME IN THE WORK SESSION THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO KIND OF, I THINK, CONSIDER AND RESPOND, UH, TO THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.

AND I THINK IT WOULD OPEN UP AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DIALOGUE IS ON A LOT OF TIMES I HEAR SOME, SOME VERY INCISIVE COMMENTS AND OBVIOUSLY SOME SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT ARE THERE.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE 120 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A 15 MINUTE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, A DISCUSSION ABOUT SOMETHING.

SO I, I I'M VERY MUCH, UM, UH, UH, AGREE WITH, UH, WITH COUNCILMAN KELLY'S COMMENTS ABOUT SETTING ASIDE A SPECIFIC TIME WHERE OUR STAFF IS AVAILABLE, WHERE WE ARE AVAILABLE, WHERE WE CAN RESPOND, UH, AND, UH, ENGAGE WITH, UH, THE CITIZENS WHO COME AND COMMENT.

I JUST THINK DOING IT IN VARIED POINTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNCIL MEETING.

I DON'T SEE THAT SERVING US VERY WELL, HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UM, AND, AND, AND TRY TO POST ON THE MESSAGE BOARD A DAY IN ADVANCE, KIND OF WHAT WE WERE DOING IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME SO THAT SPEAKERS WOULD KNOW WHEN THEY WERE COMING IN.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN PERFECT ABOUT THAT.

UM, UM, AND COULD PROBABLY DO BETTER TO DO THAT ALL OF THE TIME TO SAY, BASED ON THESE ARE THE NUMBERS OF SPEAKERS WE HAVE IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON, AND THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IN TERMS OF SPEAKER TIME.

WE'VE DONE THAT MOST DAYS, BUT NOT ALL DAYS.

AND THAT WOULD GIVE SPEAKERS, UH, AN ADVANCED NOTICE OF, OF, OF WHAT TO PERHAPS ANTICIPATE.

UM, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT HARDER NOW THAT WE HAVE OPENED UP FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SIGN UP ON THE DAY OF, UH, THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF THE PANDEMIC.

WE KNEW THE SPEAKERS CAUSE YOU HAD TO SIGN UP A DAY AT A TIME.

SO WE KNEW WHAT THE OF SPEAKERS WAS OUR POLICIES RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP, I THINK BY NINE 15, IS THAT RIGHT? UM, UM, WHICH IS ALSO A CHANGE FROM PRIOR POLICY WHEN YOU COULD SIGN UP WHILE AN ITEM WAS BEING DEBATED ON THAT ITEM.

THE POLICY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WE CUT OFF SPEAKERS AT 9 15, 9, 15 ON THE, ON THE DAY OF, UH, THE, THE UPS, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING ADDITIONAL TIME FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED.

AND PROBABLY THIS STUFF CYCLES, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU, AS YOU GO THROUGH, UH, WE USED TO HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS EVERY WEEK.

SO THERE WAS A WORK SESSION AND A COUNCIL MEETING EVERY, EVERY WEEK.

AND WE WENT TO THAT, UH, IN ORDER TO TRY TO AVOID HAVING COUNCIL MEETINGS.

I WENT TO 9, 10, 11, 12 1 AND TWO.

SO WE THOUGHT IF WE MET MORE OFTEN, WE WOULD DECREASE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

IT DIDN'T QUITE WORK THAT WAY.

WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS, WE WERE, CAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD COME TO SPEAK.

WE WERE, WE

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WERE JUST THERE A LOT.

AND, AND THEN WE HAD COUNCIL OFFICES THAT SAID, WELL, THERE'S NO TIME FOR US TO DO WORK BECAUSE WE'RE IN MEETINGS ALL THE TIME.

SO WE'RE NOT HAVING A CHANCE TO MEET WITH CONSTITUENTS AND, AND, AND THE LIKE, SO ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE GOOD, CLEAR RIGHT ANSWERS, BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU DO PUSHES AND PULLS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT TO HAVE BEEN MAYOR PRO TEM.

UM, I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS TO SHARE, BUT FIRST I WANTED TO ASK OUR CLERK'S OFFICE.

UM, IF THEY WERE TECHNICAL THINGS ABOUT THE SYSTEM OR THOUGHTS YOU HAD, UM, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT YOU WANTED TO SHARE AS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

MYRNA CHANEL'S CLERK'S OFFICE, UM, JUST IN HEARING EVERYONE'S DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, THE COLLIN PROCESS IS VERY, OR REGISTRATION IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE.

UM, PRE-MEETING AND UP TO THE DAY OF, SO, UM, I HAVE THREE SHEETS, THREE PAGES WORTH OF DUTIES THAT WE DO PRE THAT I'VE WRITTEN OUT FOR YOU ALL.

AND WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THAT SO YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT OUR STAFF ARE REQUIRED TO DO TO PREPARE FOR A MEETING.

AND THEN THE DAY OF, UM, IF YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE THE FIRST 20 SPEAKERS, SAY, WE GO BACK TO THAT ROUTE.

THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR THE COLLINS SPEAKERS, YOU TAKE THE FIRST 10, AND THEN IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

YOU TAKE 10, AND THEN YOU GO FROM THERE.

UH, THAT WOULD STILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO MANAGE ON OUR END.

UM, I WE'D SPOKEN ABOUT THIS UP UNTIL TODAY.

AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CALL THE COLIN'S SPEAKERS FIRST AND HEARING DISCUSSION TODAY.

UH, THOSE THAT ARE REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN PERSON, THEN YOU CAN HEAR THEM DURING THE ITEMS THAT THEY REGISTERED FOR.

LIKE WE USED TO DO PRE PANDEMIC, THAT'S AN OPTION.

UH, BUT WE DO RECOMMEND EITHER WAY, IF YOU CAN TAKE THE SPEAKERS FIRST, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM, THEIR CALLS DROP OR THEY NEED TO TAKE OTHER PHONE CALLS AND IT'S VERY DISRUPTIVE.

SO THEN ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION TO CALL BACK IN, THEY'RE ALWAYS EMAILING US DURING THE MEETING.

I CAN'T FIND THE NUMBER, SEND US THE NUMBER I DROPPED, YOU KNOW, OR WE HAVE STAFF ASKING THE VENDOR TO CALL THEM BACK IN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO THERE IS A LOT GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO, I MEAN, WITH REGARD TO THE, THE VENDOR, ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS UTILIZING THE WORK SESSION.

UM, IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ITEM THAT'S GOING TO HAVE, UM, OR BRING A LOT OF SPEAKERS, THEN IF YOU CAN REQUEST A CERTAIN OF THAT ITEM, THAT WAY WE CAN COORDINATE IN ADVANCE AND ASK THE VENDOR TO CREATE ADDITIONAL BATCHES.

AND THOSE ITEMS WILL BE HEARD AT A DIFFERENT TIME.

AND THOSE CALLERS WILL NOT BE CALLED OUT UNTIL A CERTAIN TIME, NOT AT THE 10 O'CLOCK TIME SLOT OR TWO O'CLOCK RATHER AT FOUR OR FIVE, AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO BE WAITING ON THE LINE FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO HOURS OR TWO AND A HALF HOURS.

UM, A PERFECT EXAMPLE FOR THURSDAY'S MEETING ITEM 59 ALREADY HAS 36 SPEAKERS.

THAT'S THE LIVING WAGE ITEM, OR IS IT 59? 59? NOT 56.

IT'S UH, THE LIVING WAGE ITEM.

WE ALREADY HAVE 36 SPEAKERS AND, UH, REGISTRATION CLOSES TOMORROW AT NOON.

SO WE ANTICIPATE GETTING MORE, THIS WOULD BE AN ITEM THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, YOU STATE THAT YOU WOULD, UM, SOMEONE STATE THAT ON A THURSDAY, A TIME CERTAIN WILL BE REQUESTED AND THEREFORE WE KNOW THAT'LL TIP US OFF AND REQUEST THE VENDOR TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL BATCH FOR US.

HOLD ON.

WELL, I HAD OTHER COMMENTS, BUT IF IT'S SPECIFIC, AS LONG AS YOU'LL COME BACK TO ME, I'M OKAY.

WE'LL COME BACK TO YOUR COMMENTS ON STAFF CANCER MORTALITY.

SO THAT, AND, AND I HADN'T HAD, I FORGOTTEN TO MENTION TIME CERTAINS EARLIER, BUT THAT TO ME AVOIDS THE ISSUE I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE'LL HEAR THREE MINUTES FROM LIVING WAGE AND EVERYBODY ELSE SPEAKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE TRUNCATED TO ONE MINUTE BECAUSE WE, BECAUSE THAT'S SUCH A POPULAR ITEM.

IF WE MOVE THAT TO ITS OWN AREA, THEN IT DOESN'T IMPACT IF FOR SOME REASON WE'RE NOT WILLING TO GO BACK TO WHAT OUR RULES STATE, WHICH IS THAT THE LIVING WAGE FOLKS WOULD BE THE FIRST, UM, THE FIRST BATCH WOULD BE THREE MINUTES AND THEN THEY'D ALL HAVE ONE MINUTE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS WOULD PROCEED THE WAY THEY

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ALWAYS DO.

THEN I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE IT TO ITS OWN AREA AS WE USED TO WITH THE, WITH THE TIME CERTAIN.

SO THANKS FOR THAT SUGGESTION RIGHT NOW, GIVEN MY DRUTHERS, IF WE WERE GOING TO DO IS TIME CERTAIN MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO DO IT IN THE MORNING ONLY BECAUSE IF YOU SET A TIME CERTAIN DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHETHER THAT'S REALLY GOING TO WORK.

AND THEY'RE VERY, WE RAN INTO A CONVERSATION THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO STOP.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A TIME, CERTAINLY CREATED AN EXPECTATION, WE WOULD IN FACT STOP, WE DON'T STOP, UH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T WHEN WE GET THERE.

UH, AND IT MAKES A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO PULL THINGS UP OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT FILLING GAPS AND FILLING TIMES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET OUT BEFORE DINNER AS OFTEN AS WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN REALLY STRATEGIC IN WHAT WE CALL, BUT HEARING NOW, WOULD YOU SAY WE HAVE BEEN CALLING THE ONES IN THE ROOM FIRST FOR COVID REASONS, BUT I WOULD BE VERY COMFORTABLE GIVEN WHAT YOU JUST SAID TO SAY, LET'S HEAR PEOPLE ON THE PHONE FIRST.

UH, AND IF WE HAD A, UM, A BIG ITEM WHEN PEOPLE WERE CALLING, I'D BE HAPPY TO CALL THAT ITEM.

UH, FIRST MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ABSENT A SPECIFIC DECISION ON SOMETHING THAT OTHERWISE THAT WE WOULD STILL KEEP THE, YOU KNOW, THE TIMING WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 46 SPEAKERS OR 36 SPEAKERS ON THAT.

THAT'S NOT THE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

I MEAN, WE COULD BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A HUNDRED SPEAKERS, UH, IN, IN, UH, IN THE MORNING.

AND THAT THREE MINUTES, THAT'S 300 MINUTES.

THAT'S, THAT'S FIVE HOURS WORTH OF SPEAKERS.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE THREE MINUTES ON EVERY TOPIC, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THREE MINUTES ON THAT ONE, THAT'S AN HOUR, THEN YOU HAVE, UH, AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER THAT.

SO IF YOU HAD THE SAME NUMBER AS BIG AS IT WOULD BE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF SPEAKERS HOURS FIGURES IN THE MORNING, REMEMBER WE STARTED TAN.

SO IF WE GO FROM 10 TO NOON, THE QUESTION IS, DO WE TAKE THEN THE, THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS AT NOON AND THEN GO TO LUNCH AND THEN COME BACK TO FINISH THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE IN THE MORNING.

WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS TO GET IT SO THAT WE HAVE ALL THE SPEAKERS DONE IN THE MORNING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE SPEAKERS THAT ARE HAVING TO HOLD AND COME BACK AFTER, AFTER, AFTER LUNCH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, AND, AND ADJUSTING THE TIMES TO, TO HELP ENSURE THAT WE HAVE, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, WE TRY TO GET HERE ALL THE, THE MORNING SPEAKERS IN THE, IN THE MORNING.

SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU PULL A THREAD HERE, IT PULLS SOMETHING ELSE OVER THERE, AND IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIND A, BUT I WOULD BE REALLY COMFORTABLE FROM A BLOCKING IN HEARING EVERYBODY ALL TOGETHER WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND TAKING THE PHONE CALLS, SPEAKERS FIRST.

AND IF THERE'S A, AN IMPORTANT ITEM TO HEARING THOSE SPEAKERS FIRST AND HEARING THE REST OF THE PHONE CALL, THEN COMING IN THE ROOM, HEARING ON THAT BIG ITEM FIRST, AND THEN THE BALANCE OF SPEAKERS, COUNCILOR KELLY, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK, BUT WE'RE STILL ON THIS, ON, ON THIS TOPIC.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I, I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF ALLOWING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME MORE BREATHING ROOM ON COUNCIL DAYS TO REALLY GET THE WORK DONE.

AND ALSO TO FOLLOW UP WITH SPEAKERS, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN WHO ARE INVOLVED IN OUR PROCESSES, AND I WANT THEM TO FEEL LIKE THEIR TIME IS VALUED AND THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TAKING CONSIDERATION INTO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE AREN'T JUST THAT TAKING SPEAKERS A DAY OFF, COULD GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT WHEN WE'RE VOTING.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION AND THE FEEDBACK.

YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.

UM, SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WHETHER WE'RE EVEN ALLOWED TO DO IT ON A SEPARATE DAY, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, WITH THE CHANGES THAT THE LEGISLATURE MADE FOR COUNCILS ANYWAY, I DON'T THINK THEY MADE IT FOR THEMSELVES.

UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO ALLOW ANYONE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ON ANY ITEM FOR SOMEONE TO SPEAK IF IT'S ON OUR AGENDA.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT IF WE DID IT, UM, THE DAY BEFORE IT WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE ANY AMOUNT OF TIME, IT MIGHT PROVIDE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO HEAR FROM FOLKS.

BUT I THINK WE'LL JUST HEAR FROM FOLKS MULTIPLE TIMES, RIGHT? I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY NOT HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE DAY OF THE VOTE, JUST TO HAVE THAT EXTRA OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE LOAD OF THE SPEAKERS THAT COME BEFORE US.

BUT I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM LEGAL TO THANK YOU.

MA'AM FOR TIM.

UH, AND YOU'RE CORRECT.

THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS REQUIRED THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THE DAY THAT YOU'RE TAKING A VOTE ON AN ITEM, BUT AS COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY POINTED OUT, IF IT'S AN EXTRA OPPORTUNITY NOT TAKING AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY FROM THE DAY OF THE VOTE, THEN

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UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT SETS AUSTIN APART AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT MAKES AUSTIN GREAT IS OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WE HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAN MOST OTHER CITIES BY FAR, AND, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE, UM, WITH THIS PROCESS, UM, I WOULD BE CURIOUS IF WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL AT WHAT THE COUNTY SYSTEM IS AND WHAT THEY'RE USING TO SIGN UP, IF THAT IS ANY MORE FLEXIBLE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHERE ARE THEY JUST NOT GETTING THE AMOUNT OF SPEAKERS THAT WE ARE, YOU ARE CORRECT IN THAT THEY ARE NOT RECEIVING THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPEAKERS THAT WE ARE.

UM, I, I WANT TO JUST EXPRESS THAT.

I THINK THAT WE PARTICULARLY FOR ZONING, UM, WE REALLY NEED TO BE HEARING THE SPEAKERS WHEN WE'RE TAKING UP THE ITEMS. UM, IT LENDS A LOT MORE COHERENCE, UM, ALLOWS US TO FOCUS ON THE PARTICULAR ISSUES.

UM, SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US MOVE, UM, TO THAT SYSTEM ON ZONING, GOING BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, ISSUE LIKE ITEM BY ITEM, ESPECIALLY OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS, UM, FOR THAT, UM, I THINK ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE A TRADE OFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO, WE WILL OBSERVE, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS PROCESS, WE WILL BE HERE MUCH LATER.

UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE MAKE GOOD DECISIONS WHEN WE ARE DEBATING AFTER 10 O'CLOCK.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS FOR THAT BECAUSE WE REGULARLY, WHEN WE DO GO PAST ON THE CLOCK, WE PUSH ON TO TRY AND GET DONE.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT LEADS TO GOOD, UM, DECISIONS OR A GOOD PROCESS FOR THAT.

UM, IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU START TAKING, UM, THE CALL-INS BEFORE THOSE IN PERSON, WE ARE AT A MEDIUM LEVEL OF COVID, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT TOMORROW IS THE DAY OR THURSDAY IS THE DAY TO SWITCH THAT AROUND WHEN WE HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF RISK IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

TO ME, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM STAYING UP, LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF PROBLEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO STAY UP THIS LATEST.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO STAY, YOU KNOW, UP IN HERE IN THE MORNINGS, YOU KNOW, SO I'VE NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WHEN WE START DOING ZONING, THAT WE DELAY SOME OF THESE ZONING ISSUES TO AFTER 10 O'CLOCK.

AND NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE TWO O'CLOCK NOW ARE THERE AND IT'S AFTER 10 O'CLOCK.

AND I SEE SOME PEOPLE JUST WALK OUT BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVE, THEY HAVE A LIFE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A FAMILY, THEY WORK.

SO, UH, BUT TO ME, I REALLY DON'T, IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME EITHER WAY.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH OVER A CYCLE OVER EVERY TIME THERE'S A NEW, COMPLIMENTERS GET ELECTED.

WE GO THROUGH THIS CYCLE AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE REPEATING THIS THING.

ONCE WE'RE GONE, I'M GONE.

IT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE THAT CALM.

I STILL GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO CONDUCT THE MEETINGS.

SO I WISH THERE WAS SOMEONE OUT THERE.

SO WE GOT ALL THESE REALLY SMART PEOPLE, AUSTIN, UH, TO COME UP AND MAYBE RECOMMEND A BIGGER SOLUTION OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND, UM, BE WILLING TO ACCEPT WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IS.

IF YOU HAVE PAGES THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST ONCE YOU HAND THAT OUT, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

HAVE PEOPLE TESTIFY AT THE CASE? CAN YOU DO THAT BOTH REMOTELY AND IN PERSON, OR DOES THAT REALLY ONLY WORK FOR IN-PERSON FOR IN-PERSON AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE TO, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF ITEMS AND THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS REGISTERED FOR CALL-IN, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO CREATE MULTIPLE BATCHES AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

BUT SO THAT I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY ON THURSDAY, WE WILL CONTINUE AS WE HAVE, WHEN WE RETURN IN JULY, THEN WE WILL TAKE CALL-IN SPEAKERS FIRST, THEN, UM, IN PERSON SPEAKERS.

AND IT HAS NOT BEEN DECIDED YET WHETHER OR NOT YOU, UM, WOULD WE'LL CALL TIME CERTAIN ITEMS SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A SEPARATE BATCH FOR THESE CONTENTIOUS ITEMS. YEAH.

MY SENSE IS ON MOST BIG ITEMS WILL HAVE A TIME CERTAIN, BUT WE'LL CALL IT FOR EITHER THE MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON.

SO PEOPLE KNOW RATHER THAN HAVING AN ITEM TIME, CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME THAT WOULD BE, HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

IS THERE A LOGISTICAL, IF WE WANTED TO END ZONING CASES,

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I WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK WITH THE VENDOR.

I KNOW WE CAN DO UP TO WE'VE DONE UP TO FIVE MAYBE, BUT THIS, THIS SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD CALL FOR MANY MORE.

AND SO WE WOULD LIKELY NEED TO PULL ANOTHER ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS TO HELP US MANAGE THAT PROCESS ON, ON THAT, ON OUR END, THE DAY OF THE MEETING.

SO WE COULD, WHEN WE CAME BACK, IF PEOPLE WANTED TO ON ZONING CASES, TAKE THE MORNING BLOCK, GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN THE MORNING, BOTH ON THE PHONE OR IN-PERSON, IF SOMEONE ON A ZONING CASE DECIDES THEY WANT TO SPEAK AT THE CASE ITSELF, THEY COULD NOT, THEY COULD BE HERE IN PERSON, BUT NOT SPEAK AT THE AFTERNOON CALL TIME AND THEY COULD STAY THERE.

AND WHEN THE CASE GOT UP, THEY COULD TESTIFY.

AND WHAT WE WOULD TELL THEM IS SOMEWHERE OVER THE NEXT EIGHT HOURS, WE'LL CALL THE CASE.

AND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET A LOT OF PUSHBACK AND MEAN EMAIL.

THOSE WOULD ONLY BE PEOPLE IN PERSON.

AND I KNOW WE GET PUSHBACK FROM THAT.

AND I MEAN, I, SO, SO THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE, I ALWAYS FEEL REALLY BADLY WHEN I KNOW THERE'S A PERSON SITTING THERE FOR A ZONING CASE AND IT'S SEVEN HOURS BEFORE THE ZONING CASE GETS CALLED.

UM, BUT THAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES IF WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF THAT ARE WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO GET BROUGHT UP, OR WE HAVE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE COMING IN, OR WE NEED SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE SOMETHING ELSE GETS AGAINST IT, OR, UH, OR JUST FROM A TIME MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, I RECOGNIZE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WHEN THEIR CASE GETS CALLED, BUT IT, BUT IT ALSO CREATES LOTS OF, LOTS OF ISSUES AND, AND INEFFICIENCIES.

AND WE'LL EXTEND THE TIME OF OUR, OF OUR MEETING.

AND, AND IT'S DIFFICULT.

YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH THE 10 O'CLOCK CUTOFF AND THE DESIRE TO, TO, TO REALLY OPEN UP SPEAKING.

CAUSE ONE OF THOSE HAS TO GIVE FOR THE, FOR THE OTHER ONE, CAN'T REMEMBER.

TOTALLY.

MAYBE I'LL THINK ABOUT THAT.

MAYBE THAT'S THE, MAYBE THAT'S THE COMPROMISE THAT THERE IS A, THERE IS A CLEAR CUTOFF, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY UNUSUAL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, ONE WHOLE GROUP OF FOLKS THAT SHOW UP BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL KUT AIR TO PEACE THAT MORNING THAT THIS CASE WAS ON THE AGENDA.

BUT, BUT FOR MOST OF THE TIME IT'S GOING TO BE A 10 CUTOFF IT'S WAIVABLE, BUT IT'S A 10 CUTOFF.

UH, BECAUSE THAT, THAT I THINK PRESERVES THE MOST ABILITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENGAGE BECAUSE THE OTHER CHOICES ARE JUST MORE CHALLENGING.

AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES FRANKLY I THINK WE, IT DOES ADD TIME IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE FROM ANOTHER, THE MIX-UP OF ZONING FOLKS AND THE MIX UP OF OTHER ISSUES, I THINK DOES ADD TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CASE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THIS POINT IS WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE COVERED IT AN HOUR EARLIER IN THEIR TESTIMONY? YOU KNOW, I JUST, AND I ALSO, I THINK THERE'S A REAL EFFICIENCY WHEN YOU HAVE FOLKS BLOCKED, THEY'RE BUILDING ON EACH OTHER'S IDEAS RATHER THAN JUST REPEATING THEM OFTEN.

SO TO ME THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE A COMPROMISE I'D BE WILLING TO THINK.

AND ALSO I THINK, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO DO THE KIND OF WORK THAT, THAT HAS BECOME MORE CHALLENGING WITH THE TWO HYBRID SYSTEMS, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE MORNING TAKING STOCK, AS YOU DO AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO THIS ITEM UNTIL X TIME OR THIS TIME ITEM UNTIL THIS TIME.

SO THAT, AND THEN REALLY PRIORITIZING, TRYING TO HIT, TRYING TO HIT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES BEFORE, BEFORE THE LUNCH.

SO OUR STAFF CAN GO, I MEAN, LAST WEEK I SAID, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAD JUST COMMENTS ON THAT REAL ESTATE ITEM.

UM, WE, WE THEN TOOK IT UP ALMOST ONE OF THE LAST THINGS OF THE DAY.

AND MICHAEL GATES FROM REAL ESTATE STAYED THAT ENTIRE WHOLE DAY.

I MEAN, IF I, IF I HAD KNOWN THAT HE REALLY WAS GOING TO STAY, I WOULD HAVE SAID, I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS AFTER PASSES.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE JUST NEED TO REALLY, WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE OUR STAFF'S TIME AS WELL AND TRY TO HIT THOSE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UM, PULLING OUR STAFF OUT FOR AN ENTIRE DAY AS WELL.

I'LL TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB OF POSTING AHEAD OF THE MEETING, THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS WE HAVE IN EACH BLOCK AND HOW I'D BE RECOMMENDING WELL APPROACH THAT.

AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT HERE TODAY.

YOU KNOW, FOR AWHILE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AT WORK SESSION AND SAYING LIKE THE BIG, THE BIG ITEMS FOR THURSDAY APPEAR TO BE X, Y, AND Z, LIKE LIVING WAGES, CLEARLY ONE OF THEM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANY ZONING CASES, MAYBE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ZONING CASES IN THEIR DISTRICTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, THAT ARE GOING TO DRAW A LOT OF SPEAKERS.

STATESMAN WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE IN MINE.

IT'S NOT ON,

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BUT YOU KNOW, IF, IF COLLECTIVELY WE COULD SPEND 10 MINUTES EVERY WORK SESSION SAYING THESE ARE THE BIG ITEMS, WHAT IS OUR PLAN FOR THEM? I THINK EVEN BY TUESDAY, WE HAVE A PRETTY CLEAR SENSE OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE.

NOT ALL OF THEM.

IN EACH OF THE BLOCKS IN THE MORNING BLOCK, BOTH IN, OR WE'LL TAKE THAT ITEM UP.

WILL THOSE SPEAKERS WILL SPEAK FIRST? YES, MY PART-TIME.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO JUST SUGGEST THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS RIGHT AFTER WE VOTE ON CONSENT.

UM, FOLKS DON'T REALLY, AREN'T, IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO FOLLOW WHAT WE VOTED ON CONSENT AND IT'S REALLY DISJOINTED WHEN IT'S HAPPENING 10 HOURS LATER.

UM, AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ASK PEOPLE TO BE SHORT AND BRIEF, UM, AND KEEP THAT IN MIND, WHICH WE SHOULD ALWAYS DO.

UM, BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO KEEP THOSE COMMENTS TOGETHER WITH, WITH, UM, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I'D LIKE TO AGREE TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR PRO TEM.

UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I OFTEN FIND MYSELF VOTING NO ON CERTAIN ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IT ACTUALLY CREATES MORE WORK FOR ME IN MY OFFICE BECAUSE REPORTERS REACH OUT TO ME AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY I VOTED NO ON SOMETHING.

AND I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE PUBLIC AND ALSO TO THE MEDIA.

AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

THAT LAST NAME LAST WEEK WAS THE FIRST TIME WE DID IT THAT WAY.

WE DID IT THAT WAY.

CAUSE WE WERE CLOSE TO ONE O'CLOCK UH, BUT WE DEFINITELY COULD HAVE DONE THE COMMENTS AT THAT POINT AND JUST EX YOU KNOW, AND IT'LL EXTEND TO, TO WHENEVER IT EXTENDS TO, BUT I'LL DO THAT.

IT IS A 10 TO 11.

WE WANT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW.

YES, THERE, CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS? I THINK THIS CONVERSATION'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS COUNCILMAN RENTERIA ACKNOWLEDGED THIS CONVERSATION HAPPENS A LOT, BUT ALSO WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRY AND DO WHEN WE HAVE A LARGE AGENDA IS TO ASK OUR STAFF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE HAVING A LATE NIGHT, IF IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO LONG, ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE NOT TIME CERTAIN THAT YOU CAN PULL OFF? AND I WOULD REALLY ASK THAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT WITH THE ITEMS FROM COUNCIL AS WELL.

THERE ARE A LOT OF ITEMS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS AGENDA AND SOME OF THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST EXCITING FOR PEOPLE AND DRAW A LOT OF FOLKS.

AND IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW IS AS WE GET THE CONSENT AGENDA AND YOU THINK WE CAN, WE CAN DO THIS AT OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, DECIDE THAT EARLY IN THE DAY SO THAT WE CAN PLAN.

SO WE CAN REALLY TRY AND NOT GO PAST 10 O'CLOCK I APPRECIATE THAT YOU STAY UP LATE COUNCILMAN RENTERIA, BUT AFTER WE HAD THAT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING MEETING, WE REALLY SEE YOU ALL COMMITTED AS A COUNCIL THAT WE REALLY WOULD NOT DO THAT TO OUR STAFF, TO OUR CITIZENS, TO RESIDENTS, UM, THAT THAT'S NOT A WISE WAY TO DO BUSINESS.

SO THANK YOU.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE COUNCIL OFFICER HAD DID AN ANALYSIS BEFORE ON TIMING AND WE'VE MADE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

CAN YOU DO IN YOUR SPARE TIME, UM, THAT, THAT UPDATE, THAT REVIEW OF WHEN COUNCIL MEETINGS HAVE BEEN ENDING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS RELATIVE TO WHEN THEY WERE ENDING PRIOR TO THAT POINT, SHOWING GOING A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE'VE UPDATED THAT, BUT THAT I THINK WOULD BE INSTRUCTED, YOU KNOW, A WAY TO EVALUATE HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING.

SO WHAT WE WILL ALSO DO IS COMPILE ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROVIDE YOU WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH SOME OPTIONS, UH, THAT MAY WORK FOR ALL.

IF NOT, WE CAN, YOU CAN CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON ANN'S COMMENT, UM, WITH, FOR US, IF ZONING ITEMS, UM, IF WE CAN BE MADE AWARE, UM, OF WHAT ITEMS WILL BE POSTPONED, WE UNDERSTAND THAT JERRY'S GUESSES ARE DRAFT, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS BEING HAD, UM, THROUGHOUT THE MEETING WITH STAFF AND THE APPLICANTS OR DEVELOPERS AND WHATNOT.

SO IF WE CAN BE TOLD IN ADVANCE, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD SAVE SO MUCH TIME ON OUR END.

SO IF WE CAN JUST COMMUNICATE, KEEP THAT COMMUNICATION LINE OPEN.

YES, PURE I JUST WONDERING ALSO IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE KNOW THAT THERE BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT POSTPONEMENT, BUT WE, WE DON'T MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL WE GET ON THE DIET.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT I GET THAT INFORMATION BEFORE NOON, SO THAT CAN RELATE TO THAT'D BE HOW, PART OF YOUR POST, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS TO THE MESHES BOARD, SINCE WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS OUTSIDE OF A COUNCIL MEETING, PEOPLE COULD EXPRESS AGREEMENT OR RESERVATIONS ON THE MESSAGE BOARD THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ANTICIPATE AS WELL, MAYOR PRO TEM.

I JUST WANTED TO FLAG SOME, A COUPLE OF THINGS ON A COUPLE ITEMS. UM, I BELIEVE IT'S NUMBER 62, WHICH IS A EXTENSION OF THE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY COMMISSION RATHER THAN TAKING TIME ON OUR

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THURSDAY MEETING.

UM, JUST WANT TO FLAG THAT, UM, IN AUDIT AND FINANCE, UM, WE DISCUSSED THE NEED FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SERVING THE NEEDS OF THE COUNCIL.

UM, THE REQUEST WAS MADE FOR THAT TO FIRST BE A COUNCIL DISCUSSION, AND THEN WE CAN DETERMINE IF WE NEED TO WHAT KIND OF PUBLIC COMMENT, ET CETERA, UH, WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THAT IN LATE SUMMER EARLY FALL, IF FOLKS CAN THINK ABOUT, UM, THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS THAT YOU FIND USEFUL, OR IF YOU THINK ABOUT ONES THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT REALLY HEARING FROM, THEY'RE NOT ADDING TO YOUR WORK.

UM, SO WE CAN THINK ABOUT, UM, HOW WE ARE BEST UTILIZING THE TALENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS OUR STAFF.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOR WHICH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UM, WE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT MORE CAREFULLY, UM, TO SEE WHETHER WE WANT TO CONTINUE THEM, OR IF WE WANT TO PUT A SUNSET CLAUSE ON THOSE COMMISSIONS.

UM, WE DON'T YET HAVE A PROCESS FOR DOING THIS, BUT I WANTED TO FLAG THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, UM, ON THE DAYAS ON THURSDAY, I CAN JUST MAKE THE MOTION, UM, FOR EXTENDING THE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY COMMISSION.

UM, AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT SOME OF US ARE WORKING ON SOME AMENDMENTS TO ITEM 50.

THANK YOU, GARY, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT ITEM 62, UH, UH, THE EXISTENCE AND OPERATIONS, THE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY COMMISSION SHOULD STILL MOVE FORWARD.

YES, IT SHOULD STILL MOVE FORWARD, BUT THE CAVEAT NOT IN FINANCE WAS WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

WE WANT TO HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION.

IT JUST, THAT COMMISSION HAPPENED TO BE THE VEHICLE THAT SPARKED THE CONVERSATION.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AIMED AT THAT COMMISSION, CAUSE THIS IS A SECOND OR THIRD, UM, EXTENSION WE'VE HAD TO MAKE FOR A COMMISSION IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

SO THE, THE, THE CODE REQUIRES IF A COMMISSION HASN'T MET, UM, QUORUM FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION TO COUNSEL AS TO WHETHER WE SHOULD CONTINUE THE COMMISSION OR NOT GOT IT.

AND WE'VE BEEN SEEING MORE OF THOSE WOOD.

AND THEN IN SEEING MORE OF THOSE, WE REALIZED IT'S BEEN ABOUT 10 YEARS SINCE WE LOOKED AT THE COMMISSIONS.

AND SO IT WOULD BE A GOOD, GOOD TIME TO LOOK AT THAT.

OH, I'M SORRY.

THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE? HOUSING KIDS WORKING.

WHICH ITEM DID YOU SAY PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT AMENDMENTS ON A 50 TO LIVABLE WAGE 50.

AND WILL THOSE BE ON THE MESSAGE BOARDS SO WE CAN LOOK AHEAD OF TIME? HOPEFULLY YES.

I THINK IT'S 50 50.

THE FIRST QUESTION, UM, WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU TALKING IN TERMS OF, UH, LOOKING AT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONS AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, I THINK THAT, UM, WE SHOULD LEARN FROM THE PREVIOUS, UM, EFFORT THAT WAS DONE, WHICH INVOLVED THE PUBLIC, UH, IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, THE COMMISSIONS THAT, THAT WAS DONE, UM, IN PREPARATION FOR THE CHANGE IN COUNCIL TO A, UH, A, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YEAH, THE TEN ONE, SORRY.

IT WAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION.

PRETEND ONE, IT WAS A PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS.

IT WAS RATHER EXTENSIVE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

AND SO I THINK, UM, I THINK IT'S TIMELY.

I AGREE THAT IT'S TIMELY TO LOOK AT THE COMMISSIONS, BUT I DON'T THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD DO IT WITHOUT SOME PROCESS THAT INVOLVES THE PUBLIC.

SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT.

UM, AND THEN WITH REGARD TO ITEM 50, UM, ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN REFERRING TO, SHE ASKED ME TO LET HER KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY, UM, DISCUSSION ABOUT ITEM 50.

CAN YOU, UH, GIVE US AN IDEA OF, I'M SORRY, WHEN DID YOU SAY YOU'D BE POSTING AMENDMENTS? I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO SEE THOSE AT LEAST BY TOMORROW.

UM, WE WILL HAVE THEM READY AS SOON AS WE CAN.

WE'RE IN MEETINGS ALL DAY, SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE AND WE WILL DO THE BEST WE CAN.

CAN YOU COMMIT YOU TO HAVE THEM READY BEFORE THURSDAY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT, UM, COUNSELING MEMBER POINTS IS, IS NOT AS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THEM BEFORE THURSDAY? I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE INTENTION.

THAT WE ARE GOING TO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SUCH LIMITED RESOURCES NOW AND STAFF TIME IS ALSO A TAXPAYER.

THAT WOULD BE THE INTENTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO UM, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, ON THIS AGENDA, THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT, UH, NUMBER FOUR IS THE FASHION INCUBATOR.

WE'VE HAD A FEW CONVERSATIONS.

LET ME BACK UP AND SAY, UM, SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMISSION ON COMMISSIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, KITCHEN.

ONE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN AUDIT AND FINANCE IS

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AND SO I AGREE THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE INPUT INTO IT AND FEEDBACK, AND WE WOULD WANT TO CONSULT THE COMMISSIONS AND THOSE STAKEHOLDERS WHO SUPPORT ANY COMMISSIONS THAT WE MIGHT BE CONSIDERING, BUT THAT WE START BY RATHER THAN HAVING A COMMISSION ON COMMISSIONS, LOOK AT EVERY COMMISSION AND MAKE BROAD CHANGES THAT THEN WILL, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME IS THAT THEY CAME TO COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL SAID, WELL, ACTUALLY WE FIND THIS ONE VALUABLE IN THIS ONE.

AND THIS ONE, INSTEAD WE SORT OF START BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE COMMISSIONS THAT YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE, OR THEY DON'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THEY'RE SERVING A DIFFERENT KIND OF ROLE.

UM, BUT THAT WAY, MAYBE THAT WE HAVE A CONVERSATION AMONG THE COUNCIL FIRST, UM, ABOUT WHICH ARE THE MOST USEFUL, THEY'RE ALL USEFUL IN, IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES IN MY OPINION.

I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SOME HARD CHOICES ABOUT BOB, ABOUT WHERE WE'RE PUTTING OUR DOLLARS AND WHERE WE'RE PUTTING OUR STAFF TIME.

UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO LIMITED SUCH LIMITED BITS OF BOTH.

AND THAT BRINGS ME TO NUMBER FOUR.

COULD I, I'M SORRY, COUNSEL, A COUNSELOR SUGGESTED THAT WE'VE GONE ABOUT AS FAR AS WE CAN GO AND DISCUSSING THE COMMISSION OR COMMISSIONS OR THE LIKE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA TO DISCUSS TODAY, BUT WE CERTAINLY NEED TO TEE IT UP TO HAVE THAT CONFERENCE.

WELL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK, MAYBE IT'S A MESSAGE BOARD CONVERSATION THEN SINCE THOSE OF US WHO WEREN'T IN AUDIT AND FINANCE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I THOUGHT WE HAD KIND OF AGREED THAT WE WERE GOING TO WORK FROM SOME OF THE DATA THAT THE COUNTY WAS PRODUCING ABOUT THEIR TELEWORKING.

AND IF I COULD JUST BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

WE WANTED TO START WITH AN INITIAL CONVERSATION.

I DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR THE PROCESS OTHER THAN WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION AT AUDIT AND FINANCE, THERE WAS A QUEST FOR US TO HAVE A DEEPER CONVERSATION AT COUNCIL, WHICH I WOULD ASSUME WOULD INCLUDE A BROADER DISCUSSION ON THE PROCESS.

I WAS JUST SIMPLY RAISING THIS AT THIS POINT.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DISCUSS IT ON THURSDAY NIGHT.

WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH IT AND WE CAN'T DO THAT.

SO PLEASE MOVE IT TO THE MESSAGE BOARD SO THAT WE CAN NOTICE THIS CONVERSATION SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS.

IF THEY WANT TO CASPER WE'RE YOU HAD SOMETHING.

SO, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS, I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO REALLY BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT AS WE MOVE INTO THE BUDGET.

AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK, I'M ASKING DEPARTMENTS WHAT, WHAT WORK THEY'RE DOING THAT HAS BEEN USEFUL AND INTERESTING AND WAS WORTH INVESTING IN, BUT WE MIGHT NEED TO MAKE A DIFFERENT CHOICE, MOVING FORWARD TO FUND SOME OF THE NEW AND EMERGING AND EMERGING PRIORITIES.

AND FOR ME, FASHION, THE FASHION, THE CONTINUED FUNDING ON FASHION INCUBATOR IS ONE THAT I'M LOOKING CLOSELY AT.

WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND PRETTY VIGOROUS CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

THE LAST TWO TIMES IT CAME THROUGH, IT WAS AN INITIATIVE OF A COUNCIL MEMBER LONG, A LONG WHILE AGO.

UM, IT WAS A IFC THAT WAS PRODUCED THAT HAS RESULTED IN CONTINUED INVESTMENTS.

AND I THINK WE NEED, WE NEED TO JUST, WELL, ANYWAY, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THAT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RESULTS ARE COMING FROM THAT AND WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE REINVESTED IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROGRAM.

UM, 90 IS COUNCIL MEMBER PEPPER, MADISON'S ITEM REGARDING TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES.

I READ THROUGH IT, UM, KIND OF QUICKLY.

I HAVE, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I DIDN'T PULL IT FOR TODAY, BUT I'LL JUST AIR WHAT SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE THAT I'M GOING TO WORK TO GET ANSWERS TO BETWEEN HERE AND THURSDAY.

UM, I AM ALWAYS GOING TO BE AS SUPPORTIVE OF DOING THINGS TO HELP OUT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I HAD A CELL TOWER I'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND JUST KIND OF THINK THROUGH AND, AND RESEARCH A LITTLE BIT THE CONVERSATION, BUT I BELIEVE IF I'M REMEMBERING IT CORRECTLY, I HAD A CELL TOWER RIGHT NEXT TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN MY DISTRICT WHERE THERE WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY ACTIVE ADVOCACY EFFORT ON THE PART OF NEIGHBORS AND PARENTS TO REMOVE THAT CELL TOWER FROM THAT AREA, IT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL, BUT TO REMOVE THAT CELL TOWER FROM THAT AREA, BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE CELL TOWER ON STUDENT HEALTH.

AND SO BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR DOWN THIS, I WANT TO JUST UNDERSTAND ONE.

I WANT TO REMIND MYSELF IF THAT WAS ACTUALLY, IF I'M REMEMBERING THOSE DETAILS CORRECTLY, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IF YOU'VE GOT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, THAT YOU CAN OFFER ABOUT WHETHER, WHETHER THAT IS SOMETHING WE MIGHT ENCOUNTER, IF THERE ARE CELL TOWERS ON THOSE PROPERTIES, UM, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO KNOW.

I CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EXPANDING DIGITAL ACCESS TO STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT AND THIS, AND THIS COULD VERY WELL BE THE VERY BEST WAY TO DO IT.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO AIR THAT AS, AS SOMETHING I'M THINKING ABOUT, UM, 87, I AM STILL REVIEWING I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND CO-SPONSOR, I AM INTERESTED THOUGH, IN RAISING THIS TO THE ATTENTION TO THE MANAGER THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR MAY HAVE PRO TEM ALTAR HAD BROUGHT FORWARD A RESOLUTION ABOUT TELEWORKING.

UM, IT WAS, SHE'LL HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHEN AND WHERE THAT WAS, BUT IT WAS DURING THE PANDEMIC.

AND

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BUT, UM, I'M KIND OF INTERESTED THIS, THIS JUST RAISED MY MEMORY, THAT I'M STILL AWAITING KIND OF THE ANSWERS TO ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU PROMPTED IN YOUR RESOLUTION.

UM, SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER RE RENTERIA, UM, BROUGHT FORWARD THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH DOES BUILD ON OTHER WORK, UM, THAT I'VE WORKED ON AND I'M A CO-SPONSOR.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ADDED, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FINAL DRAFT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE ADDED IN THERE LOOKING AT THE COUNTY'S, UM, PROGRAM FOR TELECOMMUTING.

UM, WE PUT REFERENCE IN THERE TO THE 2020 RESOLUTION WHERE WE ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO LOOK AT TELECOMMUTING AND PATTERNS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE, UM, UM, MONEY FROM MAKING THOSE STEPS.

UM, AND WE ALSO MADE REFERENCE TO OUR FACILITIES PLANNING PROCESS, WHERE WE HAVE PLANS IN PLACE THAT ALREADY, IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY, BUT NOW WITH TELECOMMUTING, UM, WE NEED TO REVISE THOSE AND IT SHOULD SAVE US MORE MONEY IF WE CAN COME UP WITH THE SORT OF OFFICE HOTELING OPTIONS, ET CETERA, WHICH IS WHAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ONTARIO IS CALLING FOR.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING A SEPARATE RESOLUTION, BUT HE HAD ALREADY KIND OF DRAFTED IT.

SO WE JUST FOLDED WHAT WE WERE DOING INTO IT.

GREAT AS WELL.

YEAH, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THE TWO EFFORTS WERE VERY MUCH ALIGNED.

I JUST, UM, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK REALLY CLOSELY AT WHAT INFORMATION WE'VE GOTTEN BACK.

I'M JUST NOT SURE.

MY QUESTION IS REALLY ABOUT WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION WE GOT BACK IN RESPONSE TO YOUR RESOLUTION.

I THINK WE'RE STILL KIND OF WAITING FOR IT IS MY FEELING ABOUT IT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP COUNCIL MEMBER ENTRY AND MOVING IT FORWARD AND YOURS, AND ALSO SEPARATELY INITIATING, YOU KNOW, BEING THOUGHTFUL.

I THINK I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH BOTH OF YOU ABOUT IT, SO I'M GLAD TO SEE IT MOVING FORWARD, BUT I, I KNOW WE, I MEAN, I PERSONALLY HAD HOPED WE WOULD HAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION BY NOW.

SO I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT BACK.

I THINK THAT WAS A FUNCTION OF COVID LASTING A LOT LONGER THAN WE ANTICIPATED AT THE TIME THAT WE DRAFTED THIS WAS, UH, WE HAD, UM, THIS IN THE RESOLUTION WHERE WE ESTABLISHED THE US AND CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED BY THE PANDEMIC.

UM, AND THAT WAS I THINK IN MAY OF 2020.

AND I THINK IT WAS REALLY A FUNCTION OF, UM, THE TELECOMMUTING AND THE OTHER STUFF ALL LASTING A LOT LONGER THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

AND IT WAS PREMATURE FOR A LONG WHILE TO BE LOOKING AT, UH, JUST IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ALWAYS QUESTION, IF THERE ARE RESPONSES TO THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION, WE WILL RESEND THOSE TO THE WHOLE OF COUNCIL.

AND IF THERE ARE NO RESPONSES, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVA, WE WILL LET YOUR OFFICE KNOW INDIVIDUALLY THAT THERE ARE NO RESPONSES NOW THAT IT'S BEEN RAISED, LET EVERYBODY KNOW SO THAT IT CLOSES THE LOOP FOR EVERYONE.

AND IF I COULD JUST, AND IF I COULD JUST ADD THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO ALL OF COUNCIL, BUT IN MY CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH CITY STAFF, THERE WAS A KIND OF, ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL APPROACH TO TELECOMMUTING.

AND SO, UM, THAT WAS ANOTHER OBSTACLE AT THE TIME.

UM, AND, AND THERE WAS SOME SHARING, I THINK OVER TIME WITH, UM, HOW DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WERE HANDLING THINGS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE FULLER, UM, LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UM, LEVERAGE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY INITIATED, UM, DUE TO THE PANDEMIC AND MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, IN THE FUTURE TO SAVE MONEY AND TO PROVIDE BETTER WORKING CONDITIONS.

OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT DID TO HELP ENSURE THAT SOME OF THE, UM, I GUESS, MISCONCEPTIONS AND MISINFORMATION THAT WAS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE UTILIZATION OF THIS TECHNOLOGY BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN, CAN BE USED IN A WAY THAT IS JUSTIN RIGHT FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES.

HEY, I, UM, I HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSED, I APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, KELLY'S LEADERSHIP, UH, ON, UH, IFC WITH RESPECT TO THE LICENSE PLATE READER.

APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT.

UH, I'VE, UH, SPOKEN, WE'LL BE POSTING SOMETHING ON THE MESSAGE BOARD.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A BUDGET ITEM FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET THAT COMES UP JUST BEFORE WE DO THE BUDGET.

AND I THINK IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE APPROPRIATELY PART OF THAT, SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORT AND WILL SUPPORT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CONTAINS SOME OF THE, UH, UH, THE PROTECTIONS AND, AND GUIDANCES.

AND WE'LL BE POSTING ABOUT SOME OF THE, UM, MODELS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR IN, IN OTHER PLACES, UH, BY SOME OF THE ADVOCATES ON HOW TO HANDLE IT AND DEAL WITH THOSE.

AND WE'LL BE POSTING THAT.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK.

AND I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED ON THE MESSAGE BOARD TO SEE HOW IT ALREADY ALIGNS WITH SOME OF THE PROTECTIONS THAT I PLACED IN THAT IFC I'M PARTICULARLY PROUD OF THE RESEARCH AND WORK THAT I DID AND THE WORK THAT

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AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, NOTE ABOUT THE BUDGET ALSO, JUST NOW, UM, WE DID TIE THE IFC INTO ENSURING THAT THE CITY MANAGER PLACES IT IN THE BUDGET.

SO IT IS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

UM, I FEEL THAT BRINGING IT FORWARD AS A RESOLUTION IS MORE IMPACTFUL FOR THE OVERALL MORALE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR OFFICERS, SO THAT THEY ARE AWARE THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS GIVING THEM THE TOOLS THAT THEY REALLY DO NEED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THANK YOU.

FINANCIAL BURDEN AND HARDSHIP FOR SOME OF OUR NINE 11 CALL TAKERS.

AND I THINK, UM, AND I'M AT, CO-SPONSOR IN THIS ITEM AND I, I, UM, DID A RESOLUTION WELL NOW I'VE DONE TWO RESOLUTIONS, THIS MEETING AND LAST MEETING THAT ARE ALSO LOOKING TOWARD THE BUDGET.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WE DO A LOT OF GREAT WORK DURING THE BUDGET AND A LOT OF REALLY FUN THINGS AND IMPORTANT THINGS HAVE COME OUT OF THE BUDGET DIRECTION.

I THINK, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, THE FIRST SWITCH TO, TO REALLY INVESTING THAT IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION CAME FORWARD AS NOT AN IFC, BUT A BUDGET DIRECTION.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT DURING THE BUDGET, IN OUR BUDGET DIRECTION AND IN OUR BUDGET AMENDMENTS, WE CAN, WE CAN DO IMPORTANT POLICY WORK TOO, BUT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES LIKE THIS ONE.

UM, AND LIKE THE ONE I BROUGHT LAST WEEK, THE RAINY HISTORIC DISTRICT FUND THAT MIGHT REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION.

AND, AND TO ME IT'S HELPFUL IF WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, UM, PRIOR TO THE BUDGET.

SO I SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY AND IN THE EFFORT, AND ALSO IN HAVING THAT CONVERSATION NOW WHERE WE HAVE JUST A, NOT A LOT OF TIME, BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THAN WE MIGHT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS TO REALLY TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE POLICY IMPLICATIONS AND TO DO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS LIKE THE ONES YOU'RE REFERENCING.

SO TO ME, THAT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE AS AN IFC LEADING INTO THE BUDGET, JUST IN CASE, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPLICATED ISSUES.

AND I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION, WANT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION PROPERLY, PROBABLY BEING AN AMENDMENT THAT HAS THE RESOLUTION, NOT TELLING HIM TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, IT'S HIS BUDGET, BUT ASK HIM TO CONSIDER PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET.

BECAUSE WHEN WE GET THE BUDGET, WE'RE GOING TO BE DECIDING BETWEEN MANY DIFFERENT COMPETING PRIORITIES.

AND I DON'T WANT TO PREJUDGE JUST FROM A INSTITUTIONAL WAY.

I DON'T WANT TO PRE-JUDGE PRIORITIES BEFORE ALL THE PRIORITIES ARE IN FRONT OF US.

I THINK THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE TIME TO HANDLE THAT, BUT WE CAN DECIDE THAT QUESTION.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? UM, UM, UH, I'M A, CO-SPONSOR ON THIS ITEM ALSO, AND, UH, THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.

UH, MAYOR, WE, UH, WE PUT SOME, SOME LANGUAGE IN THE, UM, RESOLUTION AT THIS POINT I WORKED WITH, UM, MEMBER MCKELLY TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SOME LANGUAGE IN THAT, UH, PROTECTING AGAINST THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE RAISED.

UM, YOU MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT.

SO THAT WOULD BE, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR COUNCILMAN MCKELLY, BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD BE WELCOMED.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DID A NUMBER OF THINGS, INCLUDING REFERENCING THE, UM, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT, UM, OFFICE, UM, AS PLAYING A ROLE, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN IT NOW.

SO I INVITE YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT'S IN IT.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY, UM, FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THOSE THINGS.

SO INVITE YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT'S IN IT RIGHT NOW, AND YOU MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS, BUT DO KNOW THAT THE EFFORT WAS MADE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE RAISED.

NO, AND I SAW THAT AND I APPRECIATED THAT WORK.

I, WE AUGMENTED TO, TO JUST TO REALLY REASSURE PEOPLE, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW BIG AN ISSUE WAS WHEN HAS A COUNCIL, WE, WE BASICALLY STOPPED THIS PRACTICE ON THESE ISSUES.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT'S REALLY CLEAR AND THERE ARE REALLY STRONG PROTECTIONS IN ADDITION TO THE GREAT WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.

AND ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION NATASHA, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE UPPER MADISON, THANK YOU, MARY.

I APPRECIATE IT AS SHE WAS.

UM, I'M GOING TO GO BACKWARDS A LITTLE BIT.

I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE JUMPING OFF OF THE TOPICS.

UM, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING, UH, SPECIFICALLY COUNCIL MEMBER PILLOW BROUGHT UP, I DON'T REMEMBER 90 AND ITEM NUMBER 87, UH, THIS ONE ABOUT THE PRESENTERS AND NEITHER OF THE TWO.

UM, BUT ALONG THE CONVERSATION AROUND, UH, THINGS THAT WE MIGHT HIGHLIGHT ON THURSDAY, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE BODY THAT I'VE BEEN RECEIVING SOME INQUIRIES FROM FOLKS ABOUT EXPANDING OUR WORK FROM HOME OPTIONS FOR CITY EMPLOYEES, SPECIFICALLY IN THIS INQUIRY, IT WAS ABOUT, UM, 9 1, 1, UH, DISPATCHERS WHO ARE UNFORTUNATELY BY WAY OF, YOU KNOW, THE LACK OF AFFORDABILITY IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS DON'T LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO IN ORDER TO DO THEIR JOB AS OUR DISPATCHERS.

AND THE CURRENT LEVEL OF FUEL COST IS, IS CREATING A MASSIVE

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AND SO THAT WAS BROUGHT TO ME, UM, SPECIFICALLY AND ADAMANTLY, UH, BY ONE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, UM, WHO PERSONALLY IS NOT AFFECTED, BUT IS WATCHING HER COLLEAGUES BE EFFECTIVE.

SO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT ITEM FOR SOMETHING, FOR US TO JUST KIND OF PUT ON THE TABLE TO DISCUSS AS A BODY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT, IF ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP TO RELIEVE SOME OF THAT BURDEN ON THAT COST BURDEN ON SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHO REALLY, FRANKLY, JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO DO ANYTHING BUT TELECOMMUTE.

UH, AND THAT WAS ALL.

AND TAKE UP FOUR ITEMS PURSUANT TO 5, 5, 1 0 7 2.

THANK YOU, KELLY QUICKLY.

I JUST LIKE TO RAISE THE POTENTIAL OPTION FOR HAVING MR. RUSS OFTEN PRESENT TO US BEFORE WE BREAK FOR EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.

SINCE HE'S STILL HERE, I BELIEVE HE HAS ANOTHER BRIEFING FOR US.

I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU HAVE WAITING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE JUST HAVE, WE HAVE THREE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AND WE'LL DO THEM WHEN YOU'RE READY.

LET'S STICK WITH THE PLAN WE HAD ANNOUNCED BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY HAVE BASED THEIR TIMING MORE BROADLY ON THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND DO IT CITY COUNCIL, AND I GO INTO CLOSED SESSION

[E. Executive Session]

HOW THE GOVERNMENT CODE CITY COUNCIL WILL DISCUSS REAL ESTATE MATTERS RELATED TO , WHICH IS ST JOHN'S AND PURSUANT TO 5, 5, 1 0 7 1 A GOVERNMENT CODE.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO ITEMS , WHICH IS THE MINORITY WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS ENTERPRISE FUND ST JOHN'S AND LOCAL REGULATION OF REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE.

UH, THE TIME, NO OBJECTION, GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION HERE AT 1116, WE'LL DO THAT.

UH, WE'LL COME BACK OUT AFTER THE SECOND SESSION FOR THE BRIEFINGS.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE LEFT.

WE'RE OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, CLOSED SESSION.

WE DISCUSSED REAL ESTATE MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM E AND WE DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO ITEMS E N E FOUR.

WASN'T NECESSARY TO DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO .

UH, BUT IT IS NOW, UM, UH, 2 24.

WE ARE BACK.

WE HAVE, UH, UH, TWO BRIEFINGS, UH, WHICH WE'LL CLOSE OUT OUR DAY.

UH, FIRST THE POD ON SOUTH LAMAR AND THEN THE, UH, CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

UM, IF YOU'RE READY.

[B1. Briefing regarding the development assessment for a proposed planned unit development located at 517 South Lamar Boulevard-within the Lady Bird Lake Watershed - Urban Watershed. B]

YES WE ARE.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

AND WITH US TODAY, WE HAVE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, JERRY RUSS, TOBIN FROM HOUSING AND PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

GREEN WATER QUALITY BUILDING CONTROLS BETTER LANDSCAPING THAN TODAY, WHICH WOULD BE ANYTHING, UH, RAINWATER IRRIGATION, A THREE-STAR GREEN BUILDING AND IMPROVED BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES.

THANK YOU, RODNEY.

AGAIN, ENJOY THE REST OF IT.

AND, UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THIS ITEM.

THE CASE NUMBER IS C C D 2020 2 0 0 0 1.

THIS IS A BRIEFING ON A PROPOSED PLANNING DEVELOPMENT OR BUD LOCATED AT FIVE 17 SOUTH LAMAR BOULEVARD.

UH, JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, THAT THE COUNCIL, THE CITY, THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES THE PRIOR TO SUBMITTING A PUD APPLICATION, DEVELOPERS REQUIRED TO DO WHAT WE CALL A DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A DRY RUN OF WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO SUBMIT IN THE FUTURE.

UH, WE OFFER COMMENTS FROM THE CITY STAFF FROM NUMEROUS CITY DEPARTMENTS ON THAT, GIVE THEM BACK TO THE APPLICANT AND WE GIVE A BRIEFING TO THE COUNCIL ON THE AWESOME, THE OVERALL BIG PICTURE ON WHAT'S GOING TO BE SUBMITTED IN THE FUTURE FOR THE POT.

UM, THIS POD IS LOCATED, AS I SAID, AT FIVE 17 SOUTH LAMAR.

WE'RE CALLING IT THE BIKE, BUT IT'S THE SITE OF THE BICYCLE SPORT SHOP FACILITY, AS WELL AS THE URGENT CARE CLINIC.

UM, IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE MCDONALD'S AT THE SOUTH WEST SOUTHEAST CORNER OF, UH, BARTON SPRINGS AND SOUTH MAR.

UM, IT IS A APPROXIMATELY A TWO ACRE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED CSV.

THE APPLICANT AGAIN IS PROPOSING PUD OR PLANNING YOUR DEVELOPMENT ZONING.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS A 400 UNIT RESIDENTIAL PROJECT WITH 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF EITHER RETAIL OR RESTAURANT ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A POD AS OPPOSED TO USING THE EXISTING ZONING BECAUSE THEY WERE PROPOSING TO GO UP TO 102 FEET IN HEIGHT, UM, WHICH THE EXISTING ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW, UM, NOR DOES THE VMU, UM, OVERLAY ALLOW EVEN WITH THE PROPOSED VMU TO, IT WOULD STILL BE SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN THAT AND EXCHANGED FOR, UM, FOR D FOR RECEIVING THAT INCREASE IN TENEMENT REGARDING HEIGHT, AS WELL AS, UM, SOME INCREASE IN TELEVISION WITH REGARD TO RELAXATION OF COMMERCIAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

THOSE ARE THE TWO MAJOR REQUEST ALONG WITH THEIR WAIVER OF COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS.

I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MOMENT, UM, AND EXCHANGED THE SUPERIORITY OF THE APPLICANT IS OFFERING OUR, UM, AFFORDABILITY AT THE LEVEL OF 10% AT 60% MFI FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT.

UM, 95% OF THE, OF THE PARKING BEING PROVIDED UNDERGROUND, A REDUCTION IN IMPERVIOUS COVER FROM WHAT'S ON THE GROUND TODAY, OR WHAT WOULD, WHAT IS ALLOWED BY TODAY'S CODE, UH, THE VARYING OF OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES ALONG THE MAR BOULEVARD AND THE IMPROVEMENT IN THE DRAINAGE SITUATION,

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UM, AGAIN, THE MAJOR ASK IS FOR THE HEIGHT AND WIDTH, THE HEIGHT TO REQUEST WOULD BE A WAIVER OF A COMPATIBILITY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THOUGH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE COMPATIBILITY ON THIS SITE IS BEING TRIGGERED ON THE ONE HAND BY THE FORMER ELKS LODGE OVER INTO BOULDER NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, UM, FROM THIS PROPERTY AND HIS OWN SINGLE FAMILY, AS MANY CLEVER LODGES ARE.

UH, BUT WE DO NOT FEEL THAT, UM, AS WE DISCUSSED LAST THURSDAY, I THINK THIS CAME UP WITH REGARD TO CIVIC USES AND COMPATIBILITY.

UM, THERE IS NO NEED TO PROTECT THE ELKS LODGE, UH, FROM HEIGHT ON IT ACTUALLY IS QUITE A WAYS AWAY.

THE OTHER THING TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY ARE THE HOMES THAT ARE ON THE CLIFF, UM, ABOVE THE CARWASH, WHICH IS AT THE SOUTHWEST BORDER OF BARTON SPRINGS AND SOUTH LAMAR.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT CLIFF IS SO HIGH THAT THE HOME AND COMPATIBILITY WOULD IN FACT BE STILL BE ABOVE THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING, UM, EVEN AT 102 FEET.

SO AGAIN, WE DON'T SEE A NEED NECESSARILY TO PROTECT, UH, HOMES FROM HEIGHT WHEN THE HOMES ARE IN FACT HIGHER THAN THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, BEING BUILT.

SO I GOTTA KEEP MY PRESENTATION PRETTY SIMPLE.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, ONCE THIS BRIEFING IS COMPLETE, THE APPLICANT MAY SUBMIT THE ACTUAL POD APPLICATION.

WE GO THROUGH THE USUAL PROCESS REVIEWED BY MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS INPUT FROM THE CITY STAFF REVIEW BY THE, UH, MINIMUM ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEN FINALLY BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

UH, YES.

SO, SO, UH, LET ME SAY, UM, FIRST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LAMAR AND, UM, AND YES, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK COMPATIBILITY IS AN ISSUE AT ALL.

UM, JUST WHAT WE'VE PASSED AND THE RESOLUTION MAKES THAT CLEAR BECAUSE WHAT'S TRIGGERING COMPATIBILITIES.

LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S UP ON THE CLIFF.

AND IT'S ALSO THE OTHER SIDE OF LAMAR, WHICH I THINK WHAT WE PASSED AND ITEM 66 SAID THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO ACCOUNT COMPATIBILITY IF IT WAS ACROSS THE MAJOR STREETS.

SO I DON'T THINK COMPATIBILITY IS AN ISSUE, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET CAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO PASS AN ACTUAL ORDINANCE.

BUT, UM, ONCE WE GET, IF ASSUMING WE CONTINUE WITH WHAT WE, UH, PASS LAST WEEK, UH, THEY WON'T NEED ANY KIND OF, UH, PUDGE TO, TO REDUCE, UH, COMPATIBILITY, THE HEIGHT THEY ARE ASKING FOR FOR MORE THAN 90 FEET.

SO I GUESS THEY WOULD NEED A PUT FOR THAT.

UM, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, UM, THAT 10% AT 66, 60% MFI IS BELOW THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED LAST WEEK, UH, THE COUNCIL ADOPTED 10%, BUT THAT WAS AT 50% MFI AND 12% AT 60% MFI AT 90 FEET.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA, IF THIS CONTINUES AS OF, AND THAT'S BY, RIGHT.

SO THEY COULD DO THAT BY BY, RIGHT.

SO, UM, I'M GOING TO HAVE A, UH, A QUESTION ABOUT PROVIDING THEM MORE HEIGHT AT LESS AFFORDABILITY THAN WE PASS LAST WEEK BASED ON THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO, UM, SO LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION THEN ABOUT, DID YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT BURYING THE LINES? WHAT, WHAT DID, WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT SURE.

TODAY THERE IS, UM, PHONE POLES, POWERED CARS ALONG THE MARK, AND THEY WOULD BE BURIED UNDERGROUND, UH, IN FRONT OF THIS PROJECT.

SO TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT, WHAT THE LINES RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY OR ALONG SOUTH LAMAR, W WHAT COULD THEY, WHAT COULD THEY VERY EARLY IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY? YES.

YEAH, WE THINK SO.

I MEAN, HOW MANY CAN THEY DO THAT? I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM AUSTIN ENERGY.

CAN YOU CAUSE BASICALLY YOU WOULD HAVE LINES.

YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE THOSE POLLS ARE, BUT YOU'D HAVE POLLS AND POLLS AND THEN YOU'D BURY FOR JUST THAT FRONT AGE AND THEN THEY'D GO BACK UP.

A GOOD EXAMPLE.

COUNCIL MEMBERS ACROSS THE RIVER HERE AT THE STREAM BUILDING.

UM, WE USED TO HAVE IT BECAUSE OF MY OFFICE WAS RIGHT FROM THE STREETS.

BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY TAKE THE LINES, THEY VARY THEM.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

THEY DO COME OUT OF THE STREAM BUILDING DIRECTLY ACROSS IT, ACROSS THE RIVER FROM HERE.

LANDSCAPING, WHICH, AS I SAID, THERE'S NONE TODAY AT ALL, UH, RAINWATER IRRIGATION, THREE-STAR GREEN BUILDING AND, UH, IRONICALLY BICYCLE RQ, BUT IT'D BE BICYCLE PARK ANYWAY.

I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU COULD DO THAT.

JUST DOING ONE.

IT IS MUCH BETTER, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL FROM A URBAN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT.

YEAH, YEAH, NO, IT'S GREAT.

OKAY, THEN, UM, WHAT WAS THE OTHER, UM, FOR A POD WHAT'S THE OTHER VALUE EXTRA? UM, LET'S SEE, THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE PROPOSING THE AFFORDABILITY 95% OF THE PARKING UNDERGROUND, UH, REDUCTION THE CURRENT AND PREVIOUS COVER SOMETHING LIKE 97, 90 8%.

UM, THEY WOULD TAKE IT DOWN TO 90.

UM, LET'S SEE, VARYING THE LINES, UH, IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE CONDITIONS OR IS THERE A SMALL AMOUNT OF FLOODPLAIN ON THIS, UH, PROPERTY THAT WRAPS ACTUALLY FROM THE ONE SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACK REPS AROUND THE INTERSECTION THERE.

SO THEY WOULD IMPROVE THOSE DRAINAGE CONDITIONS, UH, UTILIZE GREEN WATER QUALITY, UH, CONTROLS, IMPROVE

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SO IS THAT ON A FLOOD PLAIN? IT'S NOT THE FLOOD PLAN DOESN'T EXTEND TO THAT.

THE FLOODPLAIN DOES ACTUALLY SURPRISINGLY IT'S MOSTLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRACKS AS A STAND UP BY THE RAILROAD, BUT THEN IT ACTUALLY GOES UNDER THE VIA DOCK AND COMES AROUND.

IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ON THE MCDONALD'S SIDE AND THE PETER PAN SIDE, BUT HERE THERE'S JUST A TAIL THAT ACTUALLY REACHES IN, UH, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW.

WE'LL BE WORKING WITH KEVIN SHANK ON THIS IS, UH, OTHER WOULD ACTUALLY BE A COUPLE OF COLUMNS FOR THE BUILDING.

IT WOULD BE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, BUT, UH, UNDERNEATH THOSE COLUMNS WOULD BE AN OPEN PATIO AREA THAT WOULD, UH, UH, NOT HAVE ANY ACTUAL BUILDING STRUCTURE IN IT.

DID IT HAVE TO GET A WAIVER WITH KEVIN? THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE POD PROSTITUTION WE'D BE WORKING ON IT.

RIGHT NOW, 400, 400, 400 UNITS.

AND THEN REMIND ME THE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

FEET OF RESTAURANT OR RETAIL, FIRST OF ALL.

AND WHAT WAS IT LIKE 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL OR RESTAURANT ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

WELL, LET ME JUST SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION, UH, FOR THIS KIND OF, UM, THIS KIND OF, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE ON THAT LOCATION.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS THE LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY SINCE IT'S ALREADY ZONE B.

AND, UM, I WOULD, I DON'T WANT TO PASS WHAT WE JUST PASSED AND THEN IMMEDIATELY, NO, NOT USE IT.

SO, UH, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE SATISFIED IMMEDIATELY NOT USE IT FOR, FOR TALLER BUILDINGS.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT DISCUSSION YOU JUST HAD LAST THURSDAY, I WAS HERE AND SAW THAT, BUT I'M CURRENTLY IN THE CODE, EVEN UNDER THE EXISTING PUD PROVISIONS.

THIS IS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE EXISTING FID PROVISIONS JUST AS A HEADS UP, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE ENTIRE BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO JUST A BONUS AREA.

SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND IT'S LESS THAN WHAT Y'ALL PASS LAST WEEK, BUT IT IS MORE THAN WHAT'S IN TODAY'S CODE.

SO, BUT IT'S, BUT THERE'S ZONE VMU NOW THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR VMU ZONE.

CORRECT.

SO IT, IT ISN'T EXISTING AND I WOULDN'T CONSIDER, AND THIS IS MORE THAN TODAY.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN WHAT THE PUTT ORDINANCE, IF THEY ASKED FOR A POD WOULD REQUIRE TODAY, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT HAS CSVS ZONING TODAY.

AND UNDER WHAT Y'ALL PASS LAST WEEK, WE REQUIRE MORE AFFORDABILITY THAN WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW.

IT'S PUT A COMPARISON FOR PUD IS NOT BASED ON THE POD REQUIREMENTS, IT'S BASED ON WHAT THEY COULD DO TODAY.

AND SO I WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT.

I WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT A, UM, EXTRA BENEFIT, UM, TO COMPLY OR NOT EVEN TO COMPLY WITH THEIR CURRENT ZONING ON AFFORDABILITY.

SO I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN SAY, WELL, THE PUD DOESN'T REQUIRE IT AFFORDABLY, BUT THEIR BASE ZONING DOES SO HAPPEN.

WE SAY THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE GETTING, I KNOW BECAUSE THE PUG REQUIRES SOME EXTRA BENEFITS.

I CAN SEE ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE MENTIONED IS EXTRA BENEFITS.

I AGREE THE COST, WHATEVER.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT UNDER THE CODE THAT EXISTS TODAY, NOT WHAT WAS PROPOSED ON THURSDAY, WHICH WOULD BE A FUTURE BETTERMENT, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN A RESOLUTION THAT MIGHT'VE STARTED SAY, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

BUT, UM, WE WILL WORK WITH THEM ON TRYING TO GET THE AFFORDABILITY AFFORDABILITY UP.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, UM, IT IS TRUE THAT IN THIS BUILDING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE AT A PUB.

WE'RE NORMALLY TALKING ABOUT THE BONUS AREA, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

YEAH, NO, I'M JUST SAYING FOR PURPOSES OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CRITERIA FOR PUD, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS AS A COUNCIL IS TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON, I FORGET WHAT THE TERM IS, IS IT'S GOTTA BE SUPERIOR, SO IT CAN'T BE SUPERIOR IF IT'S, CAN'T BE SUPERIOR, IF IT'S JUST WHAT'S REQUIRED AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SUPERIOR, IT'S NOT EVEN AS MUCH AS THIS BRICK WALL.

I THINK THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT I WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, SO, OKAY.

BIKE TRAIL TO HAVE PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING TO IT.

I'M SORRY.

ONE LAST ONE.

WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THIS ONE? UM, WE DON'T KNOW.

UM, THEY HAVEN'T, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO FILE UNTIL WE COMPLETE THIS TODAY.

UM, SO I IMAGINE THEY'LL PROBABLY BE FILING PRETTY SOON.

USUALLY IT PROBABLY TAKES MINIMUM THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR.

WE'LL SAY, PAIGE, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE.

I KNOW THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF LAMAR WAS PART OF, I BELIEVE THE 2016 CORRIDOR BIKE LANES.

AND I KNOW THOSE, UM, I THINK THAT'S SLIGHTLY HELD UP BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER OVERLAPPING ISSUES THAT ARE TRYING TO BE WORKED OUT RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT CONVERSATION'S HAPPENING.

SO WE DON'T MISS AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE HIKING

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SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO THE TRAIL.

UM, AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T PART OF ZONING, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT FUTURE TENANTS JUST IN CASE PEOPLE WATCHING ARE WONDERING IF THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE A BIKE SHOP AND A CLINIC, OR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S NOT PART OF A PUD, BUT I'M SURE PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO GO ON THAT GROUND FLOOR.

UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS YET.

UM, OBVIOUSLY IT CAN BE, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE, LIKE YOU SAID, THROUGH ZONING TENDENCY, BUT, UM, UM, WE CAN TALK TO THE OFFICE AND SEE WHAT DAY DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA AT THIS POINT? THAT'S GREAT.

I KNOW AS WE, WE, WE LOVE THE BICYCLE SPORT SHOP AND, YOU KNOW, ARE HAPPY TO SEE WHAT ITS NEXT PHASES TAKE IT TO, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT LOSING ONE OF OUR MOST BELOVED BIKE SHOPS, AS PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO INCREASE INCENTIVES FOR E-BIKES AND GET OUT OF THEIR CARS.

AND SO I REALLY WOULD HATE TO LOSE THAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS LOCATION.

BUT AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S NOT PART OF ZONING THAT THAT HAPPENS LATER ON IN THE CONVERSATION.

CAUSE AVAILA JUST, UH, Y THE 102 FEET.

AND AGAIN, I'M JUST KIND OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UH, SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT, THAT, UH, THAT DEVELOPERS ARE MAKING AND WHY THEY'RE MAKING THEM, IF YOU'VE GOT THE 90 FEET POTENTIALLY BY, RIGHT ON, YOU KNOW, THE BMU DO.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW THAT JUST PASSED.

SO MAYBE THAT, THAT WAS PRIOR TO THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THIS, BUT I MEAN, WHY GO 1 0 2 AS OPPOSED TO 90? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE THINKING IS? UM, THAT'S WHERE I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

THEY DID SUBMIT THIS OBVIOUSLY PRIOR TO, UH, THE CODE AMENDMENT THAT PASSED LAST THURSDAY.

UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE ASKING YOU FOR ENTERING TWO FEET.

I PRESUME THAT THEY'VE HAD AN ARCHITECT DESIGN, A BUILDING AND THAT'S MS. RATHER EXACT NUMBERS.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT COMES OUT TO.

THANK YOU, KATHY.

YEAH, A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.

UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY UNDER THE NEW MAPS GOING TO BE DISTRICT NINE OR IS DISTRICT NINE.

I'M NOT SURE WHEN IT, WHEN IT, WHEN WE START SAYING IT'S IN ONE DISTRICT OR ANOTHER, UM, AND JERRY, I THINK I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE ONLY, BUT THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO BE CAPTURED WITHIN THE COMPATIBILITY WAS ACROSS LAMAR.

BUT I, I THINK DAWSON WOULD BE TOO THOUGH.

I WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY UNDER THE NEW CHANGES THAT WERE INITIATED, THEY WOULDN'T BE, BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHERE, WHERE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, ALONG DAWSON FALL WITHIN COMPATIBILITY, DO THEY FALL WITHIN, DO THEY TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY, UH, CUSTOMER, THEY DO NOT, BUT THE OLD ELKS LODGE DOES, UH, IT IS WITHIN THE AREA.

SO IT DOES TRIGGER.

SO THE ELK LODGE, BUT THERE, BUT THE ELK'S LODGE HAS SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH OF IT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THOSE RESIDENCES.

IT LOOKED QUICKLY FROM THE MAP AS IF THEY WERE WITHIN THE COMPATIBILITY RADIUS, BUT OKAY, WELL, WE'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE STRUCTURE THAT WE SAW OR THE ZONING AND THE STRUCTURE OF THE USE, THE TRIGGERED IT RIGHT NOW, UM, WAS BOTH THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL, BOTH THE CLIFF BY THE CARWASH, AS WELL AS THE, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NEW NAME OF THE ELKS LODGE, BUT, UM, IT'S HIGH SOMETHING.

I'VE SUDDENLY DRAWN A BLANK ON IT TOO.

UM, AND WHAT IS THE BASELINE THAT'S BEING? WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING AND WHAT IS THE BASELINE? THE CURRENT ZONING IS CSV.

AND I SAY CURRENT PRIOR TO, UH, LAST WEDNESDAY, I GUESS I'D SAY IT WOULD BE 60 FEET.

UM, UM, BUT THEN WE HAVE WHAT HAPPENED LAST THURSDAY.

SO, UH, BUT ANYWAY, THE BASELINE IS 60 THAT'S WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED, UH, WITHOUT USING A DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

SO THE BASELINE PRIOR TO LAST WEEK WOULD HAVE BEEN 60.

I'D SAY, I'D SAY, IT'S STILL SORRY.

CUSTOMER MISSPOKEN STILL BE 60 WOULD BE THE BASELINE THAT'S WHAT'S ALLOWED BY.

UH, AS OF LAST THURSDAY, WE NOW HAVE A BONUS PROGRAM V WHICH IT ALREADY HAS, BUT WE CAN GO ABOVE THAT 60 UTILIZING THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK.

BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUD AND DETERMINING WHAT THE BASELINE IS, IT'S THE, IT'S THE, UM, THE ZONING.

IT HAS, IT DOESN'T COUNT WHAT IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS AT 60 FEET.

AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 102.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO FOR THE PURPOSES OF CALCULATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT WOULD BE 40 TO 42 FEET.

CORRECT.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO JUST WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS BETTER BLENDED INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S RIGHT NEAR A COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHENS, UH, ECO CLIMATE DISTRICT.

AND THEY ALSO ON THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON, YES.

JUST ONE LAST THOUGHT, UM, WANTING TO BE MINDFUL OF GREEN SPACE.

I KNOW YOU SAID, UM, THIS I BELIEVE IS PROBABLY FULLY IMPERVIOUS COVER OR VERY CLOSE TO IT AT THIS POINT.

SO WE'D LOVE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CALIBRATE THAT CONVERSATION AROUND, HOPEFULLY GETTING SOME MORE GREEN SPACE INVOLVED IN IT.

UM, CAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS THAT TUG OF WAR WITH IMPERVIOUS COVER HEIGHT AND GREEN SPACE.

AND

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AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF TAKING OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO NOT HAVE AS MUCH IMPERVIOUS COVER.

I KNOW I GET THAT IN MY DISTRICT.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON BOTH THE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND THE OPEN SPACE AT THE SAME TIME.

ANYTHING ELSE, JERRY? THANK YOU.

THIS TO OUR LAST, UH, BRIEFING.

IT'S

[B2. Update on the Climate Equity Plan]

SEND THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO INTRODUCE THIS PRESENTATION.

UH, NEXT SLIDE THEN ALSO JUST VERY QUICKLY, AND I WON'T GO OVER ALL OF THESE, BUT JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, AUSTIN'S REAL LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THIS SPACE, UM, IN THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE GLOBE AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR CONSOLE.

UH, THIS IS OUR LAST PRESENTATION TODAY AND WE WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF YOU ON THIS CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

WE'RE JOINED THIS AFTERNOON BY LUCHEA ATHENS AND SAC PALMER REPRESENTING OUR OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND WHO IS LEADING OUR CITY'S EFFORTS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN SINCE ITS ADOPTION LAST FALL.

TODAY'S SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE YOU ON THE WORK AND PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE TO THIS POINT, BUT WE KNOW AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS CRITICAL WORK IS ON YOUR PLANK AND THERE'S SO MUCH TO BE DONE.

WE ARE PLEASED TO SHARE THIS UPDATE AND LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE CONTINUED, UH, UPDATES ON THESE EFFORTS.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO OUR CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, WHICH ATHENS AND HURTS ME TO WALK US THROUGH THIS UPDATE.

THANK YOU, GEO.

THANK YOU, SPENCER AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS.

WE'RE DELIGHTED TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY TO SHARE THIS UPDATE.

AND, UH, I WANTED TO, UH, MY NAME IS LUCI ATHENS, AS SPENCER MENTIONED THAT THE CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER AT ENJOINED BY ZACH BOMBER ALSO IN THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY, THE CLIMATE PROGRAM MANAGER, UM, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY SET THE STAGE FOR THE PRESENTATION YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR.

UM, AND AS A REMINDER, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE, THIS IS AN UPDATED PLAN FROM THE ORIGINAL CLIMATE PLAN THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED BACK IN 2015, THAT PLAN HAD A GOAL OF NET ZERO BY 2050.

THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.

UM, SINCE THEN WE HAVE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS ON IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN.

UM, THERE'S OF COURSE STILL MUCH MORE TO BE DONE, BUT I DO WANT TO REASSURE YOU THAT AS SOON AS THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, STAFF GOT TO WORK, ROLLING UP THEIR SLEEVES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW PLAN AND THAT WORK CONTINUES.

UM, THIS UPDATED VERSION OF THE PLAN JUST REAL QUICKLY TOOK ON A NEW, VERY INTENSIVE FOCUS ON EQUITY ISSUES AND ADJUST TRANSITION.

AND IT ALSO INCLUDED A FULLY VETTED LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT STATEMENT IN THE PLAN.

UM, I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER WORK WENT INTO THIS PLAN ALONG WITH HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF STAFF TIME, UH, FROM STAFF, UH, FROM AROUND A DOZEN DEPARTMENTS.

AND THIS PLAN REALLY WAS TRULY A CO-CREATION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF, WHICH I THINK IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE FOR US.

UM, SO I, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING IN AS WELL AS STAFF WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING AND FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK ON THE PLAN AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTAL SUPPORT.

I ALSO JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY NOTE THAT THE PLAN DOES ADDRESS MULTIPLE COUNCIL RESOLUTION DIRECTIVES, INCLUDING A RESOLUTION ASKING FOR A TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION PLAN, WHICH WAS FOLDED INTO THE UMBRELLA OF THIS PLAN AND A SPECIAL SECTION ON TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION.

UM, ALSO A COUNCIL RESOLUTION ABOUT NATURAL GAS EMISSIONS REDUCTION, UH, THE DECLARATION OF A CLIMATE EMERGENCY, AND ALSO THE ADOPTION BY COUNSEL OF A MORE AGGRESSIVE, UH, CARBON NEUTRAL GOAL TO GET US TO NET ZERO BY 2040.

SO TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS GOING TO JUST GIVE YOU A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW TODAY.

UM, PLUS SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF ACTIVITIES THAT THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY IS DIRECTLY LEADING, BUT AS I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE, THIS IS A MULTI-DEPARTMENT PLAN.

SO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS COME BACK TO YOU WITH A SUBSEQUENT UPDATES THAT WE'LL DRILL INTO MORE SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE PLAN, PLANET, OTHER DEPARTMENTS WORK, UM, THAT IS BEING CARRIED OUT TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN.

SO I THINK WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, OUR TEAM WAS EXCITED TO HEAR, UH, ABOUT DISCUSSIONS THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL HELD BACK IN FEBRUARY IDENTIFIED IN CLIMATE CHANGE AND RESILIENCE HAS ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITY SD 23 INDICATORS.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A SHARED ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE CRITICALITY OF THIS WORK THAT'S BEING DONE.

UH, TODAY'S PRESENTATION INCLUDES JUST A STATUS UPDATE, KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES IN THE PLAN, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO ADDRESS, UM, SEVERAL THINGS THAT WERE REQUESTED VIA 2021 COUNCIL RESOLUTION.

SOME OF THOSE WERE ALSO ADDRESSED IN A MEMO, UH, TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED ON FRIDAY.

UM, SOME OF THOSE THINGS INCLUDE NEW FUNDING AND RESOURCES FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN, UH, THE CREATION OF A STRATEGY TRACKING DASHBOARD AND ALSO THE EXTENSION OF THE COMMUNITY CLIMATE AMBASSADORS PROGRAM, WHICH WE ARE VERY PROUD OF AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT AND GLAD TO RECEIVE SO MUCH SUPPORT FOR THIS PROGRAM.

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WE'RE ONE OF FOUR MAJOR US CITIES, INCLUDING DENVER, KANSAS CITY IN SAN FRANCISCO THAT HAVE ADOPTED THAT VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVE GOAL NET ZERO BY 2040, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER INTERNATIONAL CITIES.

AND THEN ALSO HIGHLIGHTING THE LAST BULLET JUST TO NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, PROGRESS IS BEING MADE.

UH, COMMUNITY-WIDE EMISSIONS DID DECREASE BY 25% OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD AND THE PER CAPITA EMISSIONS DECREASED 39% OVER THAT SAME TIME PERIOD.

SO MORE TO BE DONE, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING SOME GOOD PROGRESS AND, AND AS, AS DIRE AS OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CLIMATE NEWS WE HEAR IS I ALWAYS LIKE TO AT LEAST, UH, TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT THERE IS GOOD PROGRESS BEING MADE NEXT LINE.

HI, I'M ZACH BOMBER.

UH, SO JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, UH, OF A COMMUNITY WIDE CARBON FOOTPRINT AND WHERE THE EMISSIONS ARE COMING FROM AND OUR COMMUNITY THAT CAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE, UM, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY THESE FIVE SECTORS AND EACH ONE OF THESE LITTLE CHUNKS IS ESSENTIALLY THE TEN-YEAR TREND FOR EACH OF THESE AREAS.

SO THE TWO SECTORS OF EMISSIONS ARE ENERGY AND BUILDINGS, WHICH IS MADE UP OF ELECTRICITY USAGE IN NATURAL GAS USAGE IN BUILDINGS.

THOSE EMISSIONS HAVE BEEN DROPPING PRECIPITOUSLY OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST DECADE BECAUSE OF ACTION TAKEN BY AUSTIN ENERGY AND BY OUR COMMUNITY WITH SOLAR AND RENEWABLE ENERGY AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY.

SECOND LARGEST SECTOR OF EMISSIONS IS TRANSPORTATION.

SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE EMISSIONS DROPPED DRAMATICALLY FROM 2019 TO 2020, UH, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, UH, IN THE REDUCTION IN, UH, VEHICLE USAGE IN 2020, WE EXPECT THOSE EMISSIONS TO PROBABLY TICK BACK UP SOME, UM, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN 2020.

UH, THE THREE OTHER SECTORS OF EMISSIONS YOU CAN SEE ARE PRETTY SMALL, UH, INDUSTRIAL EMISSIONS AT SEMI-CONDUCTOR FACILITIES, REFRIGERANTS, AND THEN WASTE EMISSIONS.

SO WHEN YOU STACK ALL THESE UP THAT ALL THESE BARS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, THAT'S WHAT EQUALS THAT 25% REDUCTION IN COMMUNITY-WIDE EMISSIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 10 YEARS.

SO JUST VERY QUICKLY, THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES TO REMIND EVERYONE WHAT IS IN THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

THIS WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL LAST FALL AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, THERE ARE 17 QUANTITATIVE GOALS, WHICH ARE COMMUNITY FOCUSED OUTCOME GOALS, UH, THAT WE'RE AIMING AT 2030 TO BE ACHIEVED.

AND THEN THERE ARE 74 STRATEGIES IN THE PLAN, WHICH ARE ALL OF THE, THE WORK TO BE DONE, WHICH ARE SPREAD ACROSS FIVE SECTIONS.

AND, UM, I'M REALLY FOCUSED ON THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO THIS PLAN WAS THE FIRST VERSION OF THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2015.

NOW THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2021.

AND SO EVERY FIVE YEARS, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY PLANNING TO DO AN UPDATE ON THIS.

SO ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN FITS IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL OF THESE OTHER PLANS AND ALL OF THIS WORK BEING DONE ACROSS THE CITY ORGANIZATION.

SO AUSTIN ENERGY'S WORK, AUSTIN WATER, UH, AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY, UM, AND MORE ALL OF THEIR ACTIVITIES FEED INTO AND CONNECT AND SUPPORT, UH, THE WHOLE, WHICH SORT OF BECOMES THE FULL CITY RESPONSE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

THERE WERE FOUR OVERARCHING STRATEGIES THAT WERE PASSED ALONG AS, AS PART OF THE SORT OF GUIDANCE OF THIS PLAN.

UH, THESE FOUR AREAS ARE GREEN JOBS AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP PRIORITIZING LOCAL COMMUNITY INITIATIVES AND A FOCUS ON EQUITY, UH, REGIONAL COLLABORATION AND CARBON OFFSETS AND CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL.

SO THESE WERE AREAS THAT SORT OF SHOWED UP ACROSS ALL OF THE STRATEGIES AND ACROSS ALL SECTIONS IN THE PLAN.

AND WE'RE AS THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY ARE TRYING TO REALLY KEEP AN EYE ON THESE REALLY BIG PICTURE DIRECTIVES, UM, AS WE SEE IMPLEMENTATION MOVE FORWARD.

WE CANNOT, AS GOVERNMENT TACKLE THESE PROBLEMS, ONE, WE NEED PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLABORATION WITH THE COMMUNITY WRIT LARGE TO ACCOMPLISH MANY OF OUR GOALS.

SO IN FINALLY THERE ARE FIVE GOAL AREAS IN THIS PLANT THAT WERE ACTUALLY THAT MAKE UP WHAT IS THE PLAN? SO, UH, THE FIRST SECTION IS CONSUMPTION OF FOOD AND GOODS.

UM, AND PRODUCTS SECTION IS SUSTAINABLE BUILDINGS.

THE THIRD IS NATURAL SYSTEMS. FOURTH IS TRANSPORTATION LAND USE, AND THE FIFTH IS TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION.

AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE THAT TWO SECTIONS FOCUSED ON TRANSPORTATION IS KEY BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION IS KIND OF THE MOST CHALLENGING, UH, SECTOR TO REDUCE EMISSIONS FROM.

AND THEN THE TWO NEWEST AREAS IN THIS PLAN ARE CONSUMPTION OF GOODS AND PRODUCTS AND FOOD AND NATURAL SYSTEMS. EXCELLENT.

WE JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT HERE WITH THIS SLIDE TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT, UH, ASPECTS OF IMPLEMENTATION AND THE DIFFERENT PLAYERS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

SO OBVIOUSLY REALIZING FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE VERY AMBITIOUS PLAN TO MEET THE GOAL OF NET ZERO BY 2040 IS GOING TO REQUIRE ACTION AND LEADERSHIP ACROSS EVERY POSSIBLE SECTOR.

UM, SO THAT INCLUDES OBVIOUSLY THESE DIFFERENT AREAS OF GOVERNMENT, BUT IT ALSO VERY IMPORTANTLY INCLUDES THE COMMUNITY.

UM,

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THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, ON OUR OWN WITH OUR DEPARTMENT ACTIVITIES, PROGRAMS, INITIATIVES, AND POLICIES, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE MORE THAN THAT.

UM, I ALSO DID JUST WANT TO MENTION LOOKING AT THE CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND DEPARTMENTAL, UH, KIND OF GREEN PIECES OF THAT PIE.

THEY'RE THE THREE LOWER GREEN SLICES THERE'S REPRESENTATION ACROSS ALL THREE OF THOSE PARTICIPATING IN A GROUP CALLED THE CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT MEETS BI-MONTHLY, UM, TO OVERSEE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN TO KIND OF TACKLE CHALLENGES AND PROBLEMS AND, AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE PLAN.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS, THAT BLUE PIECE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ACTION.

UM, WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW, CREATIVELY COLLABORATIVELY, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING MORE RESOURCES, MORE LEVERS, MORE STRATEGIES TO GALVANIZE INCREASED COMMUNITY ACTION.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT BRINGING BACK, YOU KNOW, OUR PROGRESS ON THAT, BECAUSE WE THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT COULD BE DONE IN THAT, IN THAT BLUE SLICE OF, OF THE PYRAMID NEXT LINE.

SO, UH, GETTING AN IMPLEMENTATION IS, IS LUCI SHOWED ON THAT LAST SLIDE.

YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY REALLY HAS THIS ROLE OF COORDINATING AND LEADING AND REPORTING AND SUMMARIZING.

UM, BUT MOST OF THE ACTUAL LIKE REAL IMPLEMENTATION WORK IS HAPPENING AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL.

SO, UH, OUR, ONE OF THE REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO IS WORK ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE STATUS OF ALL OF THE ACTIONS AND ACTIVITY HAPPENING ACROSS ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTAL PARTNERS, SUMMARIZE ALL THAT INFORMATION UP AND REPORT IT.

SO WE, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE AND, YOU KNOW, STARTED THIS BEFORE THE PLAN WAS EVEN DEVELOPED IS TRY TO UNDERSTAND, NOT DEVELOPED, UH, WAS BEFORE IT WAS EVEN ADOPTED AND BEING IMPLEMENTED WAS, WAS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE ACTIONS AND STRATEGIES ARE IN THE PLAN AND WHERE THEY ARE IN THE TIMELINE OF BEING IMPLEMENTED.

SO JUST THE CHART HERE, SORT OF BREAKING DOWN, UH, THE 74 STRATEGIES IN THE PLAN AND WHERE THEY FALL IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY.

DEPARTMENTS ARE TAKING ACTION ARE IMPLEMENTING SOME FORM OR FASHION OF SOMETHING THAT IS CONNECTED TO A STRATEGY.

AND THE PLAN A, THE SECOND CATEGORY IS ACTIONS THAT ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, WHICH THERE WILL BE MORE COMMUNICATION ABOUT THAT VERY SOON.

AND THEN THE THIRD SECTION IS STRATEGIES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN STARTED YET.

SO THINGS THAT ARE LONGER TERM THINGS THAT ARE LIKELY TWO PLUS YEARS OUT OF THE FUTURE.

SO, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUM TOTAL ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF EVERYTHING IN THE PLAN SHOULD BE UNDERWAY AND SOME FARMERS TO PASSION BY, UH, BY LATER THIS YEAR, UM, THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE DETAIL COMING ON IN THIS IMPLEMENTATION DASHBOARD THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES.

HAVING MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH THE UT PLANET, TEXAS 2050 FOLKS, UM, TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A COLLABORATION FRAMEWORK BETWEEN THEIR RESEARCH PRIORITIES AND PRIORITIES OF, UM, OF PROFESSORS AT, OF TEXAS.

SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OTHER RECENT EFFORTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OPPOSITE OF SUSTAINABILITY IS REALLY THIS COORDINATOR LEADER, UM, REPORTER SORT OF ROLE WITHIN THE CITY.

UM, BUT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A FORWARD MOMENTUM WITH IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN.

SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, I'M THE HAVE BEEN THE PROJECT MANAGER ON DEVELOPING THE RESILIENCE HUBS NETWORK IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, THAT'S, UM, CONNECTED TO THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, UM, CERTAINLY CONNECTED TO CLIMATE ACTION.

UM, BUT IT'S A SUSTAINABILITY THING THAT OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN SPENDING TIME ON.

UH, THE SECOND THING IS, UH, THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLANS STORY MAP.

UH, WE CREATED THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO.

IT'S A STORY MAP THAT WALKS THROUGH VERY CLEARLY.

UM, WHAT'S IN THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

IT MAKES IT VERY ACCESSIBLE FOR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THE PLAN.

AND THE NEXT IS THE YOUTH CLIMATE EQUITY COUNCIL.

UH, WE PARTNERED WITH ECO RISE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR.

UH, THAT'S WHAT THE SCREENSHOT IS HERE.

THESE ARE A BUNCH OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT WERE PART OF OUR YOUTH CLIMATE EQUITY COUNCIL.

THEY WERE ENGAGED IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT WAS IN THE PLAN AND IT WAS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN ECO RISE, THE CITY, UT, UM, AND AISD TO UNDERSTAND HOW HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS CAN BE INVOLVED WITH MOVING FORWARD AND PUSHING FORWARD INITIATIVES IN THE CLIMATE PLAN.

UM, REGIONAL COLLABORATION HAS BEEN ONE OF THE, UM, SORT OF THESE OVERARCHING STRATEGIES FOR THE PLAN AND THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS. THE NEXT THREE ITEMS KIND OF HIT ON THAT.

UH, WE HOSTED, UH, TEXAS NEW MEXICO, URBAN SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTORS NETWORK, REGIONAL MEETING, UH, LAST MONTH THAT HAD A SUSTAINABILITY CLIMATE STAFF FROM HOUSTON, DALLAS, SAN ANTONIO WACO, PLANO EL PASO ALBUQUERQUE SORT OF ALL OVER OUR REGION TO TALK ABOUT CLIMATE PLANNING, IMPLEMENTING CLIMATE PLANS, EQUITY, AND CLIMATE, UM, AND SHARE BEST PRACTICES ON THAT.

UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLES ROCKY MOUNTAIN INSTITUTE HAS BEEN COORDINATING THESE TEXAS LEARNING COHORTS, WHICH AGAIN ARE CITIES ACROSS TEXAS.

CAN I THINK ON TOPICS, THE TWO THAT WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN ARE ON RESILIENCE HUBS AND ON TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION.

UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING, UH, BASICALLY

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AND HOW DO THOSE THINGS CONNECT IN WITH THE CLIMATE PLAN AND HOW CAN WE DRIVE MORE ACTION? UM, THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THE, THE CITY COMMISSION THAT OVERSEES IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN, UM, THEY HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS, WHICH MY OFFICE SUPPORTS.

THEY RECENTLY CHANGED THE BYLAWS TO ADD FIVE NEW MEMBERS, WHICH IS A BIG STEP FOR THAT.

UM, FOR THAT COMMITTEE, THOSE FIVE NEW MEMBERS ARE, UM, GOING TO BE NOMINATED BY YOU ALL AND HOPEFULLY SUPPORT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FIVE NEW SECTIONS OF THE PLAN.

UH, AND THEN FINALLY, AS LUCHEA MENTIONED, THEIR ONGOING CLIMATE ENVIRONMENT, LEADERSHIP TEAM MEETINGS, WE HOLD THOSE EVERY OTHER MONTH IT'S DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, ACS, REALLY GETTING INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IMPLEMENTATION WITHIN THE CITY ORGANIZATION.

SO A LITTLE BIT ON THOSE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY TO AT LEAST AT THIS JUNCTURE, UM, TO HELP WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN, UM, THOSE FOUR EXISTING FTES UNDER THE STAFFING SUPPORT THAT ARE BEING RECLASSIFIED TO SUPPORT RESILIENCE HUBS, AND ALSO THE MASS CARE BRANCH AND SOME OTHER EFFORTS EFFORTS WITHIN HAYSOM.

IT MIGHT SEEM DISCONNECTED FROM THE CLIMATE PLAN PER SE, BUT THE REASON THERE IS A REAL NEXUS THERE, UH, IS THAT AS ZACH MENTIONED, HE AND HIS TEAM HAS JUMPED IN TO LEADING THE RESILIENCE HUB INITIATIVE TO DATE.

UM, THAT BASICALLY THAT LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CAME IN A MOMENT WHEN THE URGENCY OF THE WORK WAS VERY CLEAR.

UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE, AT THAT MOMENT, WE DID NOT YET HAVE A CHIEF RESILIENCY OFFICER IN PLACE.

NOW THAT OUR CHIEF RESILIENCE OFFICER LAURA PITINO HAS ARRIVED, WE WERE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH HER AND HE, SOME TO REBALANCE THE WORKLOAD, UH, TO TRANSITION, UH, THAT INITIATIVE, OUR OFFICE WILL STILL BE INVOLVED IN IT.

BUT, UM, WE JUST, WE REALLY NEED TO REBALANCE THAT WORKLOAD TO ALLOW ZACH AND HIS TEAM TO GET REFOCUSED ON THE CLIMATE PLAN AND ITS IMPLEMENTATION.

IT'S BEEN, UM, UH, A REAL OVERLOAD FOR STAFF FOR A WHILE NOW.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UH, NEW STAFFING SUPPORT COMING ONLINE.

UM, SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO REALLY PUT SOME WIND IN THE SAILS FOR OUR TEAM TO BE ABLE TO, UM, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE RESILIENCE HUB WORK, BUT THEN ALSO, UM, REALLY DRILL IN, UH, ON A LOT OF THE OTHER PROJECTS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A CLIMATE PLAN.

AND I'LL PASS IT BACK TO ZACH FOR THE REST OF THE SLIDE.

UH, THERE ARE, THERE WERE TWO OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BROUGHT ON VERY FEW SOON A FUSE FELLOW, WHICH IS A PROGRAM WHERE CITIES APPLY AND GET A PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO COME WORK FOR US ON A TOPIC.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A UT LBJ SCHOOL RESEARCH ASSOCIATE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, BROUGHT ON TO WORK WITH OUR TEAM ON, ON RESILIENCE HUBS, TO OTHER THINGS THAT THERE WOULD HAVE WENT LOOKING FOR RESOURCES AND PROJECTS THAT NEEDED IMMEDIATE FUNDING AND IMMEDIATE SUPPORT.

UH, WE FOUND FUNDING FOR, UH, ENHANCED CLIMATE COMMUNICATION ACTIVITIES.

SO WE'RE MAKING A NEW, UH, CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, VIDEO VIDEO, AND WE'RE GOING TO LIKELY BE MAKING A VIDEO ABOUT CLIMATE AMBASSADORS.

THIS WILL GIVE US MORE FUNDING AND RESOURCES TO CREATE THOSE VIDEOS, BUT ALSO PROMOTE THOSE VIDEOS.

UM, OUR CLIMATE EQUITY PLANS OR CLIMATE PLAN VIDEOS IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN PROMOTED ON TV HAVE BEEN ON CACS.

AND SO, UM, WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THERE IS A LOT IN THE PLAN ABOUT BUILDINGS, EXISTING BUILDINGS, NEW BUILDINGS, AND HPAC SYSTEMS, HEAT PUMPS, AND ELECTRIFYING EQUIPMENT IN BUILDINGS.

SO, UH, THIS FUNDING IS TO DO RESEARCH IN OUR LOCAL HPAC CONTRACTOR MARKET AND, UM, FIGURE OUT WHERE THE LEVERS ARE TO, TO DRIVE MORE ELECTRIFICATION AND HIGH EFFICIENCY, HEAT PUMPS SYSTEMS, UM, THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, SO THIS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BY ANYONE TO SEE STATUS ON EVERYTHING IN THE PLAN I SAW.

A REALLY EXCITING THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS GOING TO BE VERY USEFUL, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL IS THIS IMPLEMENTATION DASHBOARD.

SO THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENT REPORTING ON ALL 74 STRATEGIES THAT ARE IN THE PLAN, AS WELL AS QUANTITATIVE TRACKING ON THE GOALS.

UM, THIS PAGE HERE IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

UM, THIS IS JUST ONE SORT OF MOCK UP PAGE.

UM, BUT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF HAVING ALL DEPARTMENTS AT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS OF, UM, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THIS STRATEGY THAT'S IN THE PLAN, UM, WHERE ARE THEY IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION? WHAT'S NEXT? HOW DOES EQUITY FIT IN W H HOW DOES THE COMMUNITY FIT IN, AND THEN WHAT ARE CHALLENGES AND ISSUES GOING ON WITH EACH ONE OF THESE STRATEGIES? SO WE'RE ON THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF COLLECTING DATA FROM ALL OF OUR LIKE 15 DEPARTMENT OF PARTNERS ON THESE 74 STRATEGIES.

UM, WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT HALFWAY DONE.

MY HOPE IS THAT BY THE END OF JULY, THAT THIS IS LIVE, IT'S POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE ON OUR SOCRATA OPEN DATA PLATFORM.

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THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON CLIMATE AMBASSADORS.

YOU'VE ALL PROBABLY HEARD OF THE COMMUNITY CLIMATE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM.

WE CREATED THIS PROGRAM DURING THE CREATION OF THE PLAN, THE, THE FOLKS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, WHERE THE FIRST COHORT OF CLIMATE AMBASSADORS.

SO WE HAVE NOW BROUGHT ON A STAFF MEMBER AND WENT THROUGH A WHOLE PROCESS TO TRY TO DETERMINE HOW DO WE LAUNCH THE SECOND VERSION OF THIS PROGRAM AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT, UH, BETTER THAN THE FIRST TIME AROUND AND IMPROVED AND EVEN MORE HELPFUL TO OUR CLIMATE EFFORTS.

SO, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE A PAID OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SUPPORT EQUITABLE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.

UM, IT'S GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON ENGAGING HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, UM, WHO ARE MOST IMPACTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND IT'S GOING TO REALLY BE FOCUSED ON PRIORITIZING LOCAL COMMUNITY INITIATIVES, UM, AT THE AMBASSADORS WILL PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO CREATE COMMUNITY ACTION PROJECTS.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE PROCESS TO DESIGN THE PROGRAM DESIGN, THE APPLICATION PROGRAM DESIGN, UM, HOW, HOW THE PROGRAM IS EXPECTED TO WORK.

THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS OPEN RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 22ND, UH, WE ARE TAKING APPLICATIONS FOR AMBASSADORS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND ARE LOOKING TO HIRE 10 TO 15 AMBASSADORS.

UH, THIS SUMMER, UH, THE PROGRAM WILL THEN LAUNCH FOR THE AMBASSADORS STARTING IN AUGUST AND RUN ESSENTIALLY SIX MONTHS.

UM, AND INDIVIDUALS WILL BE PAID $1,500 FOR THEIR TIME AND UP TO $3,000 FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT PARTICIPATE AS AN AMBASSADOR.

UM, AND THE OVERALL SORT OF PROCESSES AMBASSADORS ARE HIRED.

THERE'S GOING TO BE MONTHLY COORDINATION MEETINGS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE WORKSHOPS IN THE BEGINNING FOR THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ENGAGE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, UM, FOCUSES ON EQUITY AND THEN ALSO CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, AND THEN ENGAGE.

THESE INDIVIDUALS WILL ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AND THEN DIVIDE DESIGN THESE COMMUNITY ACTION PROJECTS THAT WILL BE FOCUSED ON THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PLAN AND THE CITY WILL THEN SORT OF BE HELPING AND SUPPORTING THEIR EFFORTS TO, UM, REALLY GET GRASSROOTS EFFORTS OFF THE GROUND.

UM, IN COMMUNITIES FOCUSED ON THE PLAN, IF ANYBODY HERE HAS IDEAS OR CONTACTS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, YOUR NETWORKS AND YOUR DISTRICTS THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE GOOD FOR THIS PROGRAM, PLEASE SEND THEM OUR WAY.

YEP.

UH, AND SO FINALLY, UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S NEXT AND WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? UM, WE HAVE AN EDF CLIMATE CORPS FELLOW.

WE'VE HAD THREE OR FOUR OF THESE KINDS OF FELLOWS OVER THE YEARS.

UM, BUT WE HAVE ONE THAT JUST STARTED, UM, SHE HAS FOCUSED ON EQUITY METRICS ANALYSIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE TITLE OF THE CLAMP PANT PLAN IS CLIMATE EQUITY.

AND IT'S EASY TO S TO MEASURE THINGS LIKE ENERGY AND VEHICLES, BUT MEASURING ACTUAL EQUITY OUTCOMES IS MORE CHALLENGING.

SO WE'RE DIVING INTO HOW DO WE ACTUALLY MAKE THAT A REALITY? OKAY.

AND FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT KNOW, EDF, ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND NONPROFIT, UM, WE WERE HOLDING IMPLEMENTATION WORKSHOPS WITH SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF TO, UM, CREATE MORE EXCITEMENT AND ENERGY AND FOCUS AROUND IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN.

THE FIRST ONE WAS ACTUALLY HELD LAST WEEK, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP ONE IN JULY.

UM, THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATION ABOUT A NEW IMPLEMENTATION TASK FORCE.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE IS THE MAIN CONDUIT TO SORT OF OVERSEE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.

UM, BUT DURING, DURING THE CREATION OF THE CLIMATE PLAN, WE HAD THIS, UM, WE HAD A STEERING COMMITTEE THAT WAS MADE UP OF CITIZENS TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME.

SO THERE'S NOW THE, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND OVERSIGHT AND PARTICIPATION IN THE PLAN, IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN.

UH, AS I SAID, THE IMPLEMENTATION DASHBOARD WILL BE COMPLETE AND LAUNCHED IN JULY, HOPEFULLY, UH, CLIMATE AMBASSADORS, THE KICKOFF AND RECRUITMENT IS UNDERWAY.

UH, AUSTIN'S FIRST EVER FOOD PLAN IS KICKING OFF THIS SUMMER.

SO WE HAVE HIRED A CONSULTANT IN OUR NOW, UM, STARTING, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE STARTING THE PROCESS VERY SOON TO KICK OFF THIS REGIONAL FOOD PLAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND A PART OF THAT WILL BE, UM, FOOD RESILIENCE, AS WELL AS LOWERING THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF FOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, WE HAVE GATHERED A TON OF INFORMATION THIS SPRING FROM DEPARTMENTS ON, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN AND ARE IN THEIR, UM, IN THEIR BUDGET PROPOSALS.

AND WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS SORT OF FULL SUMMARY OF, UH, OF THOSE ACTIVITIES, UH, BASICALLY MADE AVAILABLE AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROPOSAL WHEN IT COMES OUT.

UH, AND THEN FINALLY WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL BRIEFING THAT WE, THAT WE DO, UM, YOU KNOW, LATER THIS YEAR, MORE DEPARTMENTAL PROJECT FOCUSED BASED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE FIVE SECTIONS OF THE PLAN.

WE HAVE THESE 15 DEPARTMENTAL PARTNERS.

WE WANT TO REAL REALLY BE ABLE TO GET INTO, UH, THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND REALLY THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN IMPLEMENTATION.

SO LIKELY THE NEXT, UH, BRIEFINGS WILL BE NOT SO MUCH US TALKING ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE FRAMEWORK, BUT TALKING ABOUT THE DETAILS OF IMPLEMENTATION IN

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DEPARTMENTS.

AND WE'RE HOPING TO COME BACK WITH THAT NEXT BRIEFING.

UM, THIS FALL SOMETIME HAS NOT BEEN SCHEDULED YET.

GREAT.

THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DASHBOARD.

IT'S PRETTY EXCITING.

ADDITION, MAYOR PRO TEM.

UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO HEAR FROM YOU AND UNDERSTAND WHERE, UM, THE PLAN'S IMPLEMENTATION IS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THIS IS A REALLY VAST UNDERTAKING WITH THE GOALS THAT WE'VE SET FOR OURSELVES, UM, WITH THE SUPPORT OF STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO GET THERE THOUGH, WE HAVE TO MAKE THE INVESTMENTS.

AND, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WERE UNDERSTAFFED AND RESTAFFED ON TO RESILIENCE AND, AND THAT IS NOT, UM, A FAULT OF YOUR UNIT.

UM, BUT I AM FRUSTRATED THAT THE ONLY THING WE'RE GETTING AT THIS MID YEAR IS WE'RE GETTING OUR STAFF BACK, WHO WERE ASSIGNED TO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A CRITICISM OF YOU, BUT WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THE IMPLEMENTATION RESOLUTION AND WE ASKED FOR A MID-YEAR BUDGET, IT WAS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PRIORITIZE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

AND INSTEAD, WHAT WE HAD WAS STAFF WHO WERE CHARGED WITH THAT WERE REASSIGNED WITHOUT, UM, COMING UP WITH THE SHORE BACK AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO, FIRST OF ALL, ASK HOW MUCH WAS THE ONE-TIME FUNDING AND WHERE DID IT COME FROM FOR THE ENHANCED CLIMATE COMMUNICATIONS ACTIVITIES AND THE HVAC CONTRACTOR STUDY? BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY MID-YEAR THINGS, BUT I'M NOT ACTUALLY SURE IF THAT WAS NEW MONEY OR JUST YOUR MONEY REPURPOSED.

THE, THE AMOUNTS WERE $50,000 FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE INITIATIVES.

SO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TOTAL.

SO, UM, SO WE SPENT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE WEREN'T PLANNING ON THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN SINCE IT PASSED SINCE SEPTEMBER, DESPITE A, UM, RESOLUTION THAT SAID WE NEEDED TO HAVE A MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT.

UM, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC TO ME, I'M NOT SAYING THAT RE PURPOSING THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT FIRST STEP.

UM, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO LEAN IN AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE STAFF TO LEAD THIS.

UM, AND, AND SO I GUESS, I, I, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW TO FRAME THIS QUESTION, BUT I WILL CALL MY COLLEAGUES' ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WE HAD A MEMO IN FEBRUARY THAT HAD A CHART ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION AND THE STRATEGY THAT'S AT ABOUT 10% OF THE STUFF WAS GOING TO BE FUNDED IN THE MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT.

WE HAVE INSTEAD SEEN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FUNDED, AND THE NEW CHART ON THE STRATEGY STATUS HAS, UM, OVER 11 PERCENTAGE POINTS NOW PUT INTO LONG-TERM, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DIDN'T DO IN THE MIDTERM IS NOW BEING PUSHED TO THE LONGTERM.

UM, SO I REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET? WHAT ARE YOU COMING BACK WITH US WITH? WHAT IS THE UNIVERSE OF THINGS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? UM, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT.

THERE WAS A PROJECT IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN TO INVEST IN A MONITORING SOFTWARE TO HELP WITH THE ANALYSIS AND ONGOING TRACKING OF OUR URBAN FOREST.

UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION.

I HEAR YOU.

UH, I, AND I DON'T MEAN TO DIRECT THAT I, I MIGHT, I JUST I'M FRUSTRATED WITH THE PROCESS AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

THIS IS NOT MEANT AT YOU PERSONALLY.

IT IS THE OVERALL PROCESS FOR PRIORITIZING SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE EQUITY WITHIN OUR SYSTEM.

UNDERSTOOD NO PROBLEM.

UH, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT ONE ADDITIONAL THING THAT WAS, UH, FUNDED, AND ALSO JUST THE FACT THAT THE PRETTY INTENSIVE EXERCISE THAT THE TEAM WENT THROUGH TO WORK WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ON WHAT WAS IN THE PLAN, MAKE SURE THEY WERE CLEAR ON THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE NOW BEEN APPROVED AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THEM DONE THAT VERY PROCESS ALONE, UM, REALLY HELPED THE DEPARTMENTS GET READY FOR THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT YOU WILL BE RECEIVING.

SO I THINK THAT WORK WAS, UH, VERY MUCH TIME WELL SPENT AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE THINGS COMING FORWARD IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

AND AS ZACH MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE A HIGHLIGHT DOCUMENT THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH WHAT WE THINK SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PROJECTS ARE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WILL IMPLEMENT THE CLIMATE PLAN.

THE ONE THAT YOU DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT.

UM, AND THE OTHER PIECE THAT'S USEFUL IN THESE EXERCISES, WHICH WE DISCOVERED, UH, IS THAT, UH, WHEN YOU START KIND OF KICKING THE KICKING THE TIRES ON THESE THINGS, SOMETIMES THE DEPARTMENTS ARE ABLE TO CREATIVELY COME UP WITH WAYS TO PAY FOR THINGS THAT THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY REALIZE THEY HAD THE RESOURCES FOR.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ONE CASE WORKING WITH, UH, DSD URBAN FORESTRY,

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THAT WAS PART OF THE NATURAL SYSTEM SECTION.

UM, AND THERE WAS A COST OF $113,000 ALLOCATED TO THAT NEED.

AND THAT TEAM ACTUALLY FOUND THE RESOURCE, SOME UNALLOCATED FUNDS AND THEIR EXISTING BUDGET TO GET THE PROJECT DONE.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE BENEFIT THAT WE, THAT WE CAN GET MORE CREATIVE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO HAVE.

UM, SO I KNOW THAT MY BOSS, JASON HAS STEPPED UP HERE, SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA LET HIM RESPOND AS WELL.

OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MAYOR COUNCIL, JASON ALEXANDER, CHIEF OF STAFF, UM, JUST TO KIND OF PAIR IT A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WOULD SHE HAVE SAID? I THINK THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT LEARNING EXERCISE FOR DEPARTMENTS.

I WILL SAY THAT WE SHARE THAT DESIRE TO BE A LITTLE FURTHER AHEAD THAN WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

WE SAW THIS AS WHAT WE KNOW WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW WITH EXISTING RESOURCES.

WE WERE HAPPY TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, AS I'M LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION, I WOULD JUST SAY, WELL, ONE, I THINK FOR THE FY 23 BUDGET, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE NOW TO CONSOLIDATE, UH, WHAT THOSE INVESTMENTS WILL BE.

AND WE'LL BE GETTING THAT TO YOU ALL.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, IN THINKING THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION AND IN THE SHORT TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BEAT CHIEF OF STAFF AND WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT WE ARE PERHAPS ONE LEARNING CYCLE BEHIND YOUR EXPECTATION ON THIS, BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO GETTING IT DONE.

UM, THIS WORK KICKED OFF RIGHT AFTER THE ADOPTION, AND IT'S JUST FRANKLY, TAKEN US THIS LONG TO, UH, TO BRING TO YOU WHAT WE HAVE.

I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR KID ARE ON THAT.

UM, I GUESS I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE PUSHED OFF THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN BECAUSE OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIMING.

AND SO IN MY MIND, WE WERE ALREADY A YEAR BEHIND AND, AND THEN WE, WE CONSISTENTLY GET ALL OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE RECOMMENDATIONS JUST AFTER BUDGET, AND THEN THEY DON'T GET FUNDED IN THE NEXT BUDGET AND THEN WE'RE WAITING AND WE CAN'T WAIT.

YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A, HAVE A CLIMATE EMERGENCY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WHEN YOU PROVIDE US WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT WILL BE IN THE BUDGET, THAT WE ARE ALSO MADE AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS ASKED FOR THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THIS THAT WAS NOT FUNDED.

UM, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY ABOUT THE CHOICES THAT ARE BEING MADE, UM, THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND OUR ABILITY, UM, TO SAY THAT WE WANT TO WEIGH, UM, SOMETHING ELSE IN ADDITION, UM, I THINK IT'S GREAT IF WE CAN, CAN FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO REPURPOSE OTHER FUNDING AND PUT IT TOWARDS CLIMATE.

I'M NOT OBJECTING TO THAT.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A CRISIS AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.

UM, BUT WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR IT SO THAT WE KNOW WHETHER WE'RE LEANING INTO THE STRATEGY THAT WE'VE LAID FORWARD FOR OURSELVES FOR NOT.

UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT TRANSPARENCY.

UM, THE CURRENT CHART, YOU KNOW, HAS FUNDING BEING KICKED OFF FOR 27% OF THE PLAN.

THAT'S A LOT IN THIS BUDGET.

AND SO, UM, I REALLY AM HOPEFUL THAT THAT CHART IS REPRESENTING A REALITY AND THAT WE WILL, WE WILL, WE WILL SEE THAT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE MANY PIECES HERE THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALREADY UNDERWAY, LIKE PROJECT CONNECT AND THE ELECTRIFICATION OF BUSES.

AND THERE ARE LOTS OF THE LOTS OF PIECES, UM, THAT COME TOGETHER IN THAT.

UM, SO MR. CRONK, OR WHOEVER'S DOING THE BUDGET PIECE AS YOU GO OFF ON YOUR FRATERNITY LEAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE UTMOST LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY THERE SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, I'M GOING TO ASK ONE LAST QUESTION.

AND THEN AFTER OTHER FOLKS HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCIS HAD ASKED ME TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON HER BEHALF.

UM, I WANTED TO GET A BETTER IDEA.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WE HAVE IN ACHIEVING SUSTAINABILITY, AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO COME AS A SURPRISE TO ANY OF YOU THREE CAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION MULTIPLE TIMES, IS THAT TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE CHALLENGE, WE HAVE TO DO THINGS IN OUR DEPARTMENTALLY AND THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE IS NOT IN CHARGE OF THOSE.

YOU, YOU RECOGNIZE THAT.

AND I THINK WE'LL SEE THAT IN FUTURE BRIEFINGS.

UM, CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP STRUCTURE AND HOW THOSE BIMONTHLY MEETINGS ARE WORKING AND GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF SOME CONCRETE THINGS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT ARE PUSHING FORWARD EITHER ON THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN OR WITH RESPECT TO SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE, PLEASE.

UM, THE CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT LEADERSHIP TEAM, I THINK IS WHAT YOU WERE SPECIFICALLY ASKING ABOUT MAYOR PRO TEM.

UH, THE, THAT GROUP HAS BEEN, I WOULD SAY VITAL TO OUR PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS GIVEN, UM, ZACH AND OUR TEAM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERFACE DIRECTLY WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS AND DEPARTMENT

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DIRECTORS.

UM, I HAVE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN ZACH DOES AS THE LEADER OF THIS INITIATIVE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GIVE YOU SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT REALLY KNOWING THAT WE'RE KIND OF, WE ARE IN LOCKSTEP TOGETHER AND THAT WE CAN PROBLEM SOLVE TOGETHER HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO OUR EFFORTS.

SO, JASON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING OR ZACK TO THAT ABOUT CLIMATE ENVIRONMENT, LEADERSHIP TEAM.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD SPECIFICALLY OTHER THAN, UM, I THINK I'VE SAT IN ONE OF THESE SINCE, UH, IN CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, INTO BECOMING THE NEW ROLE.

UM, AND IT WAS A THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION.

IT WAS EDUCATIONAL FOR ME ONLY BECAUSE I GOT TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, UM, THE, A TRIPLE C PROGRAM.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ANOTHER, I THINK MEETING COMING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH.

AND SO I'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO NOW BEING IN THIS SPACE, PLAYING A MORE ACTIVE ROLE IN THAT.

I HOPE IN THE FUTURE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, TO HIGHLIGHT SOME, SOME, SOME KEY EXAMPLES FROM THAT WORK.

I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT'S SUCCESS REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THAT MEETING AND WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE, UM, AND HOW THOSE CONVERSATIONS PLAY OUT.

AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M BEING TOUGH ON YOU BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.

AND I THINK EVERY ONE OF THE RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU CITED, WHERE MY RESOLUTIONS, THE ELECTRIFICATION OF TRANSPORTATION, THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY, THE TEXAS GAS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OBVIOUSLY WAS CO-SPONSORED SUPPORTED BY MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL.

UM, BUT, BUT THIS MATTERS AND WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT AND THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED, UM, AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO ACTUALLY MAKE MEANINGFUL, MEANINGFUL CHANGE.

UM, SO MAYOR, I WILL PASS IT ON BACK TO YOU AND WHEN APPROPRIATE, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FUND HAS ASKED ME, LS, I THINK HAS BEEN WE'RE KITCHEN.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE DATA COLLECTION PORTION OF THIS.

I WAS FASCINATED BY, I THINK IT WAS SLIDE NUMBER FOUR THAT SHOWED THE DIFFERENT LEVELS FROM 2010 TO 2020.

UM, WHEN IS THE 2021 INFORMATION GOING TO BE AVAILABLE? AND I'M ONLY ASKING THIS BECAUSE I'VE SEEN ACROSS A LOT OF DATA COLLECTION AND VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS THAT, UM, THERE'S KIND OF A LAG IN COLLECTING THAT JUST IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OTHER THINGS, NOT JUST IN THE CITY, BUT JUST DATA COLLECTION ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THE, THE 2021, UH, COMMUNITY GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY WILL BE COMPLETED THIS FALL.

WE WAIT ON THE, THE THING THAT HOLDS IT UP IS FEDERAL REPORTING TO EPA ON LIKE LARGE INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THOSE GET REPORTED TO THE SYSTEM CALLED THE EPA FLIGHT.

AND WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, THEN WE CAN COMPLETE THE FULL INVENTORY.

SO IT'LL BE DONE BEFORE THE YEAR'S OUT, WHICH IS OVER A YEAR LATE, BUT IT'S WHEN THE DATA COMES.

AND THEN IS THE EXPECTATION THAT IT WOULD BE ANNUALLY UPDATED OR ARE THERE ANY MID-YEAR OPPORTUNITIES? NO, THE, THE COMMUNITY-WIDE INVENTORY HAS DONE ANNUALLY.

OR MIGHT BE A NEW STEERING COMMITTEE THAT WAS CREATED.

SO IT'LL ONLY BE UPDATED ONCE A YEAR.

THAT'S GOOD.

I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING THE LAST BIG CITY IN TEXAS, IT'S STILL IN EPA, UM, AMBIENT AIR QUALITY STANDARDS, AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT FOR Y'ALL TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN TRYING TO MAKE THESE BIG CHANGES HAPPEN FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND HELP US MONITOR HOW THESE CHANGES ARE HAPPENING, WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT NOT MAKING IT WORSE ON THE FRONT END.

THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH RESPONSE YOU CAN DO FOR CLIMATE IMPACTS, UM, BEFORE YOU'RE, YOU'RE HAVING TO BE REACTIVE INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE.

UM, SO I WAS REALLY FASCINATED TO SEE THAT TRANSPORTATION CHART COME DOWN.

OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW, AS SOON AS THE PANDEMIC HIT, ALL THE ROADS WERE EMPTY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

IT GAVE US SOME LEEWAY TO BE CREATIVE WITH SOME OF THAT PUBLIC SPACE.

UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT TELEWORKING, YOU KNOW, PO HAS A, AN ITEM ON THIS AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER ALTO HAS WORKED ON TELECOMMUTING.

UM, I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE AS AN EMPLOYER AND WE, AS PEOPLE WHO CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP BUSINESSES UNDERSTAND THEIR IMPACTS ON CLIMATE TOO, THAT WE TAKE A REALLY PROACTIVE APPROACH TO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS NOT TO HAVE EVERYBODY BACK ON THE ROAD, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU MY PACKS ALREADY BUMPER TO BUMPER AT THREE 30 IN THE AFTERNOON.

SO, SO CLEARLY SOMETHING IS CHANGING AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL HANDS ON DECK AS FAR AS AFFECTING THOSE, THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS IN THAT CONGESTION AND, YOU KNOW, THE AIR QUALITY IMPACTS, THAT'S HER KITCHEN.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR PORTS, HIM FOR, UH, ALL THE QUESTIONS I THOUGHT THOSE WERE VERY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS ALSO FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

I JUST HAVE ONE THAT I THINK MAYBE WE HAVEN'T QUITE COVERED YET.

AND THAT IS, UM, I HAD THOUGHT THAT AT ONE POINT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A STEERING COMMITTEE, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, EITHER POTENTIALLY BE A SUBSET OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE

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UM, CAN YOU TELL, TELL ME THE STATUS OF THAT? YEAH, THAT'S THE, IT WAS ON THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE.

WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW DO WE SCOPE THAT GROUP AND HOW DO WE, UM, FOCUS WHAT THE GROUP IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON? UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, WHICH MEETS MONTHLY AND THE INITIAL CONVERSATION HAD BEEN ABOUT FORMING A WORKING GROUP OF THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

UM, BUT THAT DIDN'T GET A LOT OF TRACTION.

AND SO NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS WORKSHOP WE HAD LAST WEEK, AND WE'RE JUST IN ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ON WHO, WHO WOULD BE ON A GROUP LIKE THAT, WHAT POWER DO THEY HAVE? WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY FOCUS ON AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT USEFUL? UM, BECAUSE DURING THE, DURING THE CREATION OF THE CLIMATE PLAN, WE HAD A STEERING COMMITTEE, BUT IT HAD A VERY CLEAR ROLE AND IT WAS TO GIVE ME DIRECTION AND OVERSIGHT ON WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE CLIMATE PLAN.

BUT AS WE MOVE TO IMPLEMENTATION, YOU KNOW, THIS IS DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR BUDGETS.

THIS IS HAPPENING ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UM, THE CITY SYSTEM AND STRUCTURE AND ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE OVERSIGHT GROUP.

IT'S NOT EXACTLY CLEAR WHERE THEY FIT WITHIN ALL THE OTHER STRUCTURE WE HAVE.

SO WHAT DO THEY THINK ABOUT IT? WHAT DO THEY THINK ABOUT IT? THIS SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, HAVE THEY RECOMMENDED A PARTICULAR APPROACH? UM, I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSED OF THEM HAVING A WORKING GROUP, BUT THAT'S SORT OF, IT'S STILL CONNECTED TO GROUP.

UM, IT JUST SEEMS THE REASON I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE ACTION PLAN, AS WELL AS, SINCE THE MAYOR PRO TIM'S IMPLEMENTATION RESOLUTION AND A STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD SEEM TO ME TO BE THE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS TO DO.

AND, UM, IS IT, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, OR IS IT THAT, THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO, YOU GUYS ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY MIGHT FIT OR WHAT'S GOING ON IN TERMS OF A STEERING COMMITTEE NOT BEING CREATED YET? WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU MY PERSPECTIVE COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, I BELIEVE THAT THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A, IT'S LIKE A COMMISSION OF COMMISSIONS, BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE.

IT IS CONSTITUTED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM MULTIPLE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

UH, IN MY VIEW THAT BODY OR A COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THEY COULD CHOOSE TO CREATE WOULD BE THE LOGICAL, UM, THE LOGICAL BODY TO CONNECT BACK TO, UM, STAFF HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, SIX MONTHS OR SO, TRYING TO WORK MORE CLOSELY WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE TO ACTUALLY TRY TO SUPPORT THEM, TO HELP MAKE THEM MORE EFFECTIVE IN THEIR ROLE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH ON THEIR PLATE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON ANOTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION, AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

I THINK IT'S CHALLENGING FOR THEM TO BE FRANK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A LOT, IT'S A BIG TIME COMMITMENT.

SO, UM, OUR TEAM HAS BEEN TRYING TO WORK INDIVIDUALLY WITH EACH MEMBER TO TRY TO HELP THEM KIND OF HONE IN ON THE PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE PLAN THAT RELATES BACK TO THE OTHER BOARD AND COMMISSION THAT THEY REPRESENT SO THAT THEY CAN TRY TO HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY BACK TO THE OTHER BODY.

UM, SO I THINK THAT WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS THERE.

UM, STANDING UP A SEPARATE STEERING COMMITTEE ON AN ONGOING BASIS IS FRANKLY, A HUGE AMOUNT OF STAFF WORK.

AND WE ALREADY STAFF TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE AND THE SUSTAINABLE FOOD POLICY BOARD.

SO WITH A RELATIVELY SMALL TEAM AS WE ARE, UM, WE'RE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M HESITANT TO TAKE ON ANOTHER STANDING BODY, UM, THAT WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO MANAGE.

SO I, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD REALLY PREFER, AND ZACH HAS BEEN ENCOURAGING THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT COULD BE UNDER THE, THE JSC.

SO WHAT'S HOLDING UP THEM CREATING ONE, HAVE THEY ASKED TO HOLD IT UP OR WHAT HAVE THEY ASKED TO CREATE ONE OR WHAT'S THEY CREATED A WORKING GROUP A FEW MONTHS AGO.

UM, THEY CAN MEET ANYTIME THAT THEY WANT.

UM, DO THEY HAVE SUPPORT TO MEET, UH, WORKING GROUPS AREN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE LIKE FULL STACK, UH, BUT FOR THEM TO BE EFFECTIVE, THEY WOULD NEED Y'ALL SUPPORT TO MEET.

WOULD THEY NOT, NOT NECESSARILY.

I MEAN, WE HAVE OTHER, WE HAVE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES OF OTHER BOARDS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ONGOING STAFF SUPPORT.

THEY'RE JUST SELF-ORGANIZE OKAY.

SO, SO THEY'VE CREATED A WORKING GROUP.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YEAH, THEY HAVE, HAVE THEY ASKED FOR SUPPORT? YEAH.

AND IS THAT SOMETHING ALL HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO PROVIDE, UH, CURRENTLY? NO.

YES AND NO.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE FOR MAKING IT ACTUALLY WORK.

ABOUT IT, BUT, UM, UM, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.

WELL, WE CAN HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS AND MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO MAYOR PRO TEM

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I THINK THE, THE, THE COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THE THINGS THAT ARE ON OUR PLATE TO DO THAT WE NEED TO DO, AND WE NEED TO DO WITH URGENCY ARE REALLY WELL TAKEN BECAUSE THIS IS A CRISIS AND WE NEED TO BE DOING OUR PART.

UM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN REQUESTS FROM, FROM COUNCIL THAT IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE BETTER FOLLOW-UP AND MORE TIMELY FOLLOW-UP SO THAT WE CAN TRACK THEM BETTER.

UM, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE DASHBOARD THAT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO PLACE.

CAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A REAL GOOD PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR WHAT'S HAPPENING AND, AND, AND, AND WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, BUT YOU ALSO SAID SOMETHING, I THINK THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT, WHICH IS WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE MEASURE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT WE ARE DOING THAT ARE GOING REALLY WELL.

UH, AND IT'S REALLY ENCOURAGING AND GREAT TO HEAR THAT OUR PER CAPITA CARBON EMISSIONS HAVE GONE DOWN BY 37% HERE RECENTLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M IN THE ENVIRONMENT IN, IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT FORMS WITH CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS, UH, SUBNATIONAL GROUPS, UH, AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD.

AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE MOST USEFUL AND IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS DOING IS PROVIDING THAT EXAMPLE TO OTHER CITIES, THE ONLY FIVE CITIES OR FOUR OR FIVE CITIES IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE SET THE 20, 40 GOAL THAT, THAT WE HAVE SET.

UM, AND I'M REAL CONFIDENT OF OUR ABILITY TO MEET THAT GOAL.

UH, AND, AND, UH, AND WE NEED TO, BUT WHERE WE'RE IN A SELECT GROUP AND, AND THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING IS BEING USED BY, BY OTHER SUBNATIONAL GROUPS AROUND THE WORLD.

AS, AS THE EXAMPLE, I THINK THE CHART THAT YOU GAVE US IT'S ON PAGE FOUR, THE HANDOUT IS ONE THAT'S WORTHY OF PAUSING ON FOR JUST A MOMENT, UH, THAT SHOWS PRETTY PRECIPITOUS DECLINE IN THE, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS ADMISSIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN BOTH ELECTRICITY AND IN TRANSPORTATION, WHICH ARE TWO BIG AREAS.

IN FACT, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR DECREASE IN JUST THE LAST FEW YEARS IN THOSE TWO AREAS EXCEEDS OUR TOTAL, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN INDUSTRIAL REFRIGERANTS AND, UH, WASTE COMBINED.

UH, THAT'S PRETTY DRAMATIC PROGRESS FOR, FOR A CITY TO BE MAKING.

AND I PUT THAT ALL IN THE CONTEXT OF, WE ALL HAVE TO BE MAKING THAT KIND OF TRAUMATIC, UH, PROGRESS AND MORE, UH, AND, AND WE NEED OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD, UH, DOING THE SAME THING.

UH, AND, AND I APPRECIATE AND JOINED THE, IN THE COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT THE URGENCY AND FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE THINGS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE SET THAT UP INSTITUTIONALLY IN OUR SYSTEM.

UM, BUT, BUT I ALSO COMMAND, UH, YOU AND THE STAFF AND THE CITY GENERALLY, UH, THE COMMUNITY GENERALLY FOR THE CONSERVATION MEASURES THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING FOR THE REDUCTION, UH, IN, IN THAT FOOTPRINT THAT IS BEING DRIVEN AS YOU SAY, BY MORE THAN JUST CITY OPERATIONS, BUT BY EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, IT IS IMPRESSIVE.

AND, AND WE'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT IMPRESSIVE WORK, UH, AROUND, UH, AROUND THE WORLD.

I'M GOING TO TURN THE CHAIR OVER TO YOU.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OTHERWISE I'LL ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBER FANTASIES QUESTIONS.

SEEING NONE.

UM, SO SHE WANTED ME TO ASK ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE HIRING OF THE TWO.

UM, HE, SOME STAFF WHO WILL SUPPORT RESILIENCY WORK.

DO WE KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN HIRED AND BROUGHT ON BOARD YET? SO THOSE TWO POSITIONS, I BELIEVE, HAVE JUST BEEN RECLASSIFIED AND MOVED OVER TO HAYSOM.

SO WE WILL BE GIVEN THAT HIRING PROCESS, UH, WITH URGENCY, UH, BUT WE'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE DIRECTOR OF HAYSOM FOR THAT STATUS.

AND ONCE THEY ARE HIRED AND THAT RESILIENCE WORK IS MOVED OVER THERE, UM, WHAT PARTS OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, UH, WILL BE PRIORITIZED AND SUPPORTED BY THE SUSTAINABILITY STUFF? CAUSE I ASSUME THAT THE RESILIENCE STUFF IS NOT DOING THE CLIMATE EQUITY PER SE.

AND THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE DON'T REALLY YET KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, IT'S A BLEND OF OUR STAFF THAT ARE ALL THAT ARE ALL WORKING ON THIS.

UM, BUT WE WILL, UM, WE'LL GET THE DASHBOARD OFF THE GROUND.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LAUNCHING THE CLIMATE AND MASTERS PROGRAM.

WE'RE GOING TO, UM, DO MORE DETAILED FOLLOW-UPS WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS AND, AND WITHIN EACH ONE OF THOSE SECTIONS AND IDENTIFYING PRIORITY PRIORITIES FOR THEIR IMPLEMENTATION, UM, IT WILL JUST ENABLE US TO DO MORE COORDINATION AND MORE SUPPORTIVE DEPARTMENTS.

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UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO WORK WITH, UH, THE EXTERNAL SECTOR.

AND SO, UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY BE ABLE TO KIND OF DIG INTO THAT MUCH MORE DEEPLY, UM, AND TO, YOU KNOW, UH, BUILD SOME ADDITIONAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATIONS AND FOUNDATIONS.

SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES SINCE WE KNOW ALL THE RESOURCES CAN'T COME FROM THE CITY.

I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART.

I MEAN, WE HAVE OUR PLAN AND PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SETTING UP THAT ECOSYSTEM FOR EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO, TO INVEST IN HAVE INCENTIVES TO DO THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

UM, HER LAST QUESTION WAS WHAT OTHER CHALLENGES REMAIN IN PRIORITIZING THE CLIMATE ACTION, UM, AND PROCEEDING WITH IMPLEMENTATION.

UM, I'LL PROVIDE A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS AND PLEASE CHIME IN.

UM, I THINK, UH, WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO IN THE GREEN JOBS AREA.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE AUSTIN CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU HELPED TO INITIATE MAYOR PRO TEM, UM, THAT, UH, THAT PROGRAM IS STILL IN A FLEDGLING STAGE REALLY.

UM, I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, UM, GREEN JOB RELATED, UH, ACTIVITIES THAT COULD BE EXPLORED AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A CHANCE TO DIG INTO THAT FULLY YET.

UM, I THINK THAT'S AN AREA FOR US TO BE LOOKING AT MORE.

UM, I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE MORE KIND OF OUT ON THE EDGE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE FUGITIVE EMISSIONS, SOME OF THE STUFF FROM THE SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRY.

I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT.

WE DON'T FULLY HAVE OUR ARMS AROUND.

WE KNOW THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON FURTHER.

UM, WE'RE NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ALL THE LEVERS THAT WE NEED, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ACTUALLY, UM, DRIVE CHANGE, UH, IN THOSE SECTORS.

SO THOSE WOULD BE A COUPLE OF MY THOUGHTS.

DO YOU HAVE OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO ADD? YEAH, THE ONLY ONE, THE ONLY OTHER ONE I'D MENTIONED WOULD BE REGIONAL COLLABORATION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOOD AT COLLABORATING WITH OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE SUSTAINABILITY STAFF, BUT OUR MOST NEARBY SUBURBAN AUSTINITE NEIGHBORS, UH, DON'T HAVE SUSTAINABILITY OR CLIMATE STAFF AND FIGURING OUT HOW DO WE CONNECT WITH THOSE ADS AND MAYBE NOT CALL IT CLIMATE CHANGE, MAYBE NOT CALL IT STANDABILITY OR CLIMATE ACTION, BUT FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE BETTER COORDINATE OR SUPPORT THEM OR GET THEM, YOU KNOW, HELP THEM FIND RESOURCES.

UM, TO BE MORE ALIGNED WITH OUR SOLUTIONS IS, IS, UH, AN ONGOING CHALLENGE, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY.

I THINK THAT'S, UM, REALLY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND ON THE, UM, GREEN JOBS, SINCE YOU MENTIONED IT, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY WELL AWARE OF THIS, BUT FOR MY COLLEAGUES AS WE GO INTO BUDGET, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT UT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A TRIPLE C AND THE INNOVATION OFFICE AND LIKELY YOUR OFFICE AS WELL, IS WORKING ON A STUDY FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREEN JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT THAT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE AND KIND OF SOME OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BOTH FINANCIALLY, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF PROGRAMS AND POLICIES THAT NEED TO BE, UM, SET UP FOR THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT IN TIME FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, BUT THERE CERTAINLY ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THERE AND, UM, WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO, TO CONSIDER THAT THOSE IDEAS AS WE GO INTO BUDGET AS WELL.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, REITERATE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT AUSTIN HAS ACCOMPLISHED IS IMPRESSIVE.

UM, WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, WE HAVE DONE BECAUSE WE SET GOALS AND WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEEDED TO REACH THOSE GOALS.

UH, WE NOW HAVE AN UPDATED PLAN, UM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO PUSH FORWARD, UM, WITH EVEN MORE RESOLVE THAN WE HAD BEFORE AND MORE RESOURCES BECAUSE THE CHALLENGES ARE EVEN GREATER.

UM, NONE OF THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE SUCCESS THAT WE'VE HAD AS A COMMUNITY, AS A CITY, UM, IN MOVING THESE THINGS FORWARD, UH, DOES MEAN THAT WE NEED TO LEAN IN AND, AND REALLY PUSH THIS FORWARD.

AND, AND AS LEADERS IN THIS AREA FOR THE CITY, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND A RESPONSIBILITY TO PARTNER WITH US AND MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES TO, TO REACH THE GOALS THAT WE'VE SET FOR OURSELVES.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE WANTS TO BRING UP BEFORE I JOINED THE MEETING? OKAY.

IT IS NOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S NOW 3 35 AND I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING.