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ALL RIGHT.

SO WE OPENED THE

[CALL TO ORDER]

MEETING AND, UH, FIRST IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES OR IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SO MOVE, MOVE BY GREG.

SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN WE JUST HAVE TO RAISE HANDS? WHY DO WE S WE HAVE SIX, RIGHT? DIDN'T WE NEED SIX WORK WARM.

OH, FOR THE MEETING.

SO WE CAN'T APPROVE THE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, FELICIA.

OH, WELL, I'M GOING TO HAVE A, WHO WERE THERE FOR THERE CAUSE SHE, CAUSE HE WASN'T, HE WASN'T THERE.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE'LL WE'LL TABLE THAT.

SO SEE, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN CHAIRMAN FOR LIKE THREE MINUTES.

I ALREADY MADE A MISTAKE.

THANK YOU.

I MOVED TO REMOVE YOU.

I SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT

[2a. Introduce the new commissioner from District 9, Daniel Ronan]

BEING SAID, WE'LL GO TO NEW BUSINESS AND INTRODUCE THE, FROM DISTRICT NINE, DANIEL RAMEN.

DAN, YOU WANT TO GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND, HOW YOU'RE DOING? I HAVE TO HIT THE MIC ON MIKE ON MIDDLE LEFT, MIDDLE LEFT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL THAT'S THE FIRST LESSON.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME AS A NEW MEMBER ON THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU, FELICIA FOR STAFFING US.

UM, I AM A NEW AUSTENITE AS OF DECEMBER AND, UH, I'VE COME HERE.

UM, I'M TYPICALLY A MUSEUM CONSULTANT.

I'VE ACTUALLY JUST TAKEN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION AT THE FLOWER HEALTH FOUNDATION, WHICH IS A HISTORIC HOUSE MUSEUM BASED IN WEST AUSTIN AT THE CORNER OF WEST SIXTH STREET AND PRESSLER.

UM, AND UH, QUICKLY LEARNING MORE ABOUT MY NEW CITY.

I MOVED HERE FROM CHICAGO, UH, WHERE I LIVED FOR EIGHT YEARS AND, UH, WAS REALLY ACTIVE IN THE ARTS AND CULTURE, UH, ECOSYSTEM AND ENVIRONMENT.

UM, I'M SIT ON SEVERAL, UM, MUSEUM ASSOCIATION, MUSEUM BOARDS, AS WELL AS ARCHITECTURE AND PRESERVATION.

SO INTERESTED TO GET ON ANOTHER BODY AS I'VE DROPPED ALL MY OTHER COMMITMENTS.

SO I'M HOPING I CAN HELP YOU, UM, MAKE QUORUM, BUT, UH, DO MORE THAN JUST THAT IN THIS BODY.

WHERE ARE YOU FROM ORIGINALLY? I'M ORIGINALLY FROM PORTLAND, OREGON.

NICE.

SO YOU GO BY DANIEL? YES.

ALL DANIEL? YES.

AND, UM, WELL WELCOME.

HAPPY TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

ALL RIGHT.

SO SECOND, UH, ON NEW BUSINESS AS A C REPORT FOR PARKING, PARKING, RENT, ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATE BUILD.

I DON'T.

UM, YEAH.

OKAY.

WE NEED COMMISSIONER CANADY FOR THAT ONE.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL PASS ON THAT REPORT FROM THE TPI D WORKING GROUP, ANY UPDATES, NEW APPOINTMENTS.

WE HAVE NOT ANYTHING TO REPORT.

OKAY.

JOHN MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

NOBODY EMAILS ME BACK.

IS THAT RIGHT? ALRIGHT.

WORKING

[2d. Working Session: Bylaws for the Tourism Commission Board]

SESSION, THE BYLAWS FOR THE CHURCH CHURCH, THEM COMMISSION BOARD, WHICH, UH, FELICIA WAS NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE US THE IDIOT'S GUIDE TO THE TOURISM COMMISSION, SIX PAGES, UH, AND JUST GOING THROUGH IT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I NOTED, YOU KNOW, IS THAT A BOARD MEMBERS WHO ACCEPT FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE REGULAR MEETINGS, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, A LOT OF TIMES THEY GET A PASS ANYWAY.

BUT, UH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE SURE IS ACTIVE.

AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER ONE I SAW TOO, WAS THE QUORUM.

ONE HALF HOUR, YOU GET ONE HALF HOUR A SHOT AT IT, UH, STAFF, A QUORUM.

AND, UH, WHAT ELSE DO THEY, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WHERE IT SAID, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, THEY SHOULD BE ON A MONTHLY BASIS, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT YOU CAN'T CANCEL A MEETING IF YOU NEED TO CANCEL BASED ON, UH, TIME OF YEAR, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY THOUGHTS.

I JUST HAD ANOTHER BOARD, THEY JUST CANCELED OUR JULY MEETING BECAUSE OF VACATIONS PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.

WEREN'T GONNA BE AROUND, ET CETERA.

WHAT'S THE DAY FOR OUR JULY MEETING FELICIA OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, 20TH, EVERYBODY HERE FOR THE 20TH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL KEEP THAT ON JULY 20TH OF JULY.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH FOR THAT, CRAIG.

YEAH, I GOT IT ON MY

[00:05:01]

CALENDAR.

MY PHONE COMES UP THREE TO FIVE.

YEAH, USUALLY.

YEAH.

I, I JUST TURNED OFF MY PHONE, SO ALRIGHT.

RACHEL'S ON OUR WAY.

WE'LL BE DONE BY THE TIME SHE GETS THERE.

SO ANYWAYS, AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS WE KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE HERE FOR JULY MEETING, WE TAKE THE NEXT ONE.

AFTER THAT.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE, UH, BYLAWS, ANY CHANGES, SUGGESTIONS, OR ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE? I DON'T WANT, I DON'T HAVE ANY, I DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES NECESSARILY, BUT I WANT TO KEY IN ON WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE ATTENDANCE.

YUP.

UM, A COUPLE OTHER COMMISSIONS I PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO FOR, UH, IN THE CITY.

AND, UM, ONE IN PARTICULAR HAD THIS ISSUE AS WELL WHERE NO, CERTAIN PEOPLE DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR LIKE HALF A YEAR.

AND UH, I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THEY WERE BASICALLY LIKE, HEY, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THIS IS A CITY ORDINANCE.

YEAH.

SO THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN IN MORE THAN THREE MEETINGS.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE ABSENT AND IF THOSE ARE EXCUSED, BECAUSE OF LIKE SOME OF THE REASONS ALLOWABLE.

OH, IT'S YELLOW.

IT'S GREEN.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY HEARD FROM THEM.

UM, UM, COMMISSIONER ALTER HAS CONTACTED ME ASKING, UM, INFORMATION, BUT SHE HASN'T REALLY CONTACTED ME AS FAR AS, UH, IF SHE'S GONNA MAKE THE MEETINGS.

SHE DID ASK ABOUT THIS MEETING WHEN IT WAS WHERE IT WAS.

AND I INFORMED HER ON THERE.

I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, UM, AT ALL.

I'VE TRIED TO CONTACT HER, BUT, AND I HAVE, UM, CONTACTED CITY, UH, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON THIS ITEM.

YEAH.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN EITHER.

ONE OF, I THINK, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER WAS ON A ZOOM MEETING ONCE THAT I SAW.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN ANYBODY ELSE.

EVERYBODY ELSE'S HERE OTHER THAN THOSE TWO, BUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETHING WE WANT TO, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON YOU AND WE NEED TO KEY IN ON.

AND IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THE, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EFFORT TO, TO DO THINGS WITH EVERYBODY, EVERYONE ELSE MAKES THE EFFORT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE I SAID, AT THE LAST MEETING, NOT HAVING A QUORUM IS, IS KIND OF ROUGH ON STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I MEAN, HAS HISTORY OF THIS COMMISSION BECAUSE I WAS APPOINTED INARGUABLY, I THINK SO IT WAS ED AND BILL IS, WE HAVEN'T BEEN EFFECTIVE IN OUR MISSION, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE OF ABSENTEEISM AND THERE WAS A, UH, A YEAR DURING THE PANDEMIC, I THINK WE MET TWICE AND WE HAD TO GO TO A CITY COUNCIL AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE TO LIKE ARGUE FOR OUR RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT I THINK WHEN WE HAVE HAD GOOD DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE BEEN EFFECTIVE AND THERE'S SMART PEOPLE HERE, I THINK, UH, MIKE'S DOING GOOD WORK AND BILL ARE DOING GOOD WORK ON THE PARKS THING.

I THINK THE TEEPEE THING IS A VALUABLE, UH, EFFORT COULD BRING MORE MONEY TO HOMELESSNESS AND TO, UH, THE CITY IN GENERAL.

SO I'M FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I DO THINK WE CAN BE AN EFFECTIVE BODY, BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET PEOPLE TO SHOW UP MORE OFTEN.

WELL, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT'S BETTER.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE DEBATE.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT IS A GOOD, HONEST DEBATE ON THE VARIOUS ISSUES ARE OUT THERE TO AGREE OR DISAGREE.

SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR GO FORWARD IS ON THIS OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE TAKE A LOOK AT, I MEAN, WE KNOW WHO THE PEOPLE ARE, WHO HAVEN'T SHOWN UP REALLY IN GENERAL.

UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE, OR MAYBE WE CONTACT THEM AND ASK THEM, BUT, UH, I WOULD TABLE THAT FOR RACHEL.

SO THAT WAY.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL BEEN SHOWING UP CONSISTENTLY AND RACHEL TENDS TO, SO MAYBE GOING FORWARD, JUST HAVING A COUPLE OF MEMBERS WHO DON'T COME REGULARLY, WON'T IMPEDE US, BUT, UM, IT'S STILL GOOD TO HAVE A MORE OPINIONS.

I MEAN, THE MORE, THE MORE OPINIONS, THE BETTER, UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING AS FAR AS THE BYLAWS IS, UH, WHERE'D IT GO? UM, ACTUALLY I HAVE A UP QUESTION ON THE MORE THAN THREE ABSENCES.

SO IS THAT A DECISION THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE, OR I KNOW YOU SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT DOES IT GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL COUNSELOR THAT APPOINTED THE COMMISSIONER

[00:10:01]

TO MAKE DECISION AS TO WHETHER THEY STAY ON? YES.

SO WHAT I DO IS CONTACT CITY CLERK, AND THEN THEY GO AND CONTACT YOUR, UM, DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE.

SO IT JUST, SO IT'S OUT IN THE OPEN, HAVE YOU CONTACTED THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE FOR EACH ONE OF THE MAIL BY, OKAY.

SO IS IT JUST FOR ALTO AND, UH, LUIS RODRIGUEZ? UM, THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN MISSED YES.

AND CONTINUOUS, UH, MEETINGS.

AND THEN I DO TAKE ATTENDANCE AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THEM.

OKAY.

IS THAT, UM, SO YOU VERIFY THAT THEY MISSED SOME MEETINGS OR IS IT EVERY TIME THAT THEY'RE ABSENT? YOU TELL? UM, IT'S QUARTERLY WHEN I TRACK, BUT IF THEY MISS MORE THAN THREE IN A ROW, I CONTACTED THEM IMMEDIATELY AND THEY'VE DEFINITELY REACHED THAT ULTA.

AND IS IT LOIS? LOIS, LOIS LOUIS.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

UM, I KNOW I'M VERY NEW.

I MEAN, IT'S, I BASICALLY SAVED YOUR MEETING.

DEFINITELY.

UM, AND I WOULD, I MEAN, IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, I, I WOULD MAYBE MAKE A FORMAL, UM, MOTION TO SAY THAT WE ARE ASKING THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO RECONSIDER APPOINTING SOMEONE OR REAPPOINTING SOMEONE OR ASKING THEM STEP DOWN AND PUTTING A NEW PERSON.

CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IF, IF THEY HAVEN'T SHOWN UP FOR MORE THAN THREE MEETINGS, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME ISSUE IN SEVERAL MONTHS.

IT WILL EAT YOU IT AS A GO FORWARD.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BROUGHT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN FILLING OUT AN ATTENDANCE SHEET.

RIGHT.

WHICH WE SHOULD DO.

SO MAYBE AS A GO FOR, WE SAY FROM NOW ON, WE FILL OUT AN ATTENDANCE SHEET AND THAT PERSON WHO MISSES THREE MEETINGS, WE HAVE A FORMAL, UH, REQUEST THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY RE BE REPLACED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT'S ALREADY WHAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING ACCORDING TO OUR BYLAWS.

WELL, ACCORDING TO OUR BYLAWS, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FILL OUT ATTENDANCE SHEETS.

DO WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT WELL, YEAH.

SO I'M LIKE, I, BUT I'M NOT SURE THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN AGAIN AT THE NEXT MEETING.

AND IF IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED, I'M NOT SURE SAYING GOING FORWARD IS GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME, GREG.

GREAT.

THANK OUR POSTING ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT MOTION TO BE HEARD.

I THINK WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BYLAWS AND THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED PEOPLE TO LEAVE.

UM, BUT OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS FUTURE BUSINESS.

SO WE CAN PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA FOR THAT ACTION.

GOOD POINT, GREG, IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH CONTACTING THESE MEMBERS AND SAYING, LOOK, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN COMING AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU, I DON'T THINK WE CAN AND WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT.

IT WOULD BE THE CLERKS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO, GIVE SOMEBODY FRIENDLY AND ENCOURAGE AND, AND PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, CAN, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU COMMITTED TO THIS OR NOT? AND, AND IF, AND SHE, IF THERE WAS SOME, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE REASON WHY THEY HAVE TO, YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL, WE HAVE A COURSE OF DEALING AND NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT UP TO THIS POINT, BUT KNOW IN FAIRWARNING.

YEAH.

AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT WAS MY POINT IS FAIRWARNING BASICALLY, SO MAYBE, UH, MAYBE WE, WE TAKE A LOOK AT EMOTION TO HAVE, I THINK THE, I THINK THE CHAIR SHOULD BE THE PERSON THAT CONTACTS.

AND I THINK THEN ALSO AS PART OF THAT, WE ALSO START ABIDING BY THE SPECIFIC WHERE YOUR LOCATIONS OF THE BYLAWS, INCLUDING THE ATTENDANCE SHEET AND, UH, THE THREE MEETING MS. MEETING THING.

OKAY.

SO DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION? UM, I MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE CHAIR CONTACT THESE TWO MEMBERS AND SEE ABOUT THEIR COMMITMENT, SEE ABOUT THEIR COMMITMENT AND, UM, LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE BYLAWS PROVISION AND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, ATTENDANCE SHEET FOR FUTURE, FOR THIS AND FUTURE MEETINGS SUPER SECOND BEFORE.

YEP.

GO DISCUSSIONS.

SURE.

I JUST WANT, I REITERATE THAT IT'S A LAW, YOU MISSED THREE MEETINGS, YOU HAVE VACATED YOUR POSITION.

THAT IS A CITY LAW.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE DOESN'T ENFORCE IT.

RIGHT? BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IN A DIFFERENT COMMISSION, I HAD POINTED IT OUT AND PROVIDED THE MINUTES FROM THOSE MEETINGS TO SHOW THAT THIS PERSON HADN'T SHOWN UP.

AND I HAD A NOTE FROM THE STAFFER WHO STAFFED THAT COMMISSION, THAT THAT PERSON HAD NOT CONTACTED THEM WITH A LEGITIMATE ABSENCE.

AND I, AGAIN, THE CLERK'S OFFICE WAS JUST SORTA LIKE, EH, WE'LL LET THE COUNCIL MEMBER KNOW.

AND THAT'S, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT.

LOIS AND ALTA HAVE ACTUALLY VACATED THAT POSITION

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BY LAW.

THEY ARE NOT MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION BYLAW.

WELL, BUT THAT'S NOT, I CAN SAY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT EXACTLY TRUE BECAUSE THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS WHEN FELICIA MADE, MADE THE REQUEST, IT CAME BACK THAT IT WAS EXCUSED.

CORRECT.

OH, IT WAS I'M SORRY.

I MISSED THAT.

SO SATAN WITHOUT REASON, BUT THE FACT THAT IT WAS EXCUSED, IS THAT CORRECT? FELICIA, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT THE RIGHT WORDING WAS, BUT THERE WAS WORDING, THERE WAS AN EMAIL SENT BACK THERE COUNCIL MEMBER IS INFORMED AND THEN IT IS SORT OF WAVED OFF.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE START OVER AGAIN.

YEAH.

THAT'S MY POINT.

I'M SAYING LIKE, WE CAN MAKE THIS RESOLUTION AND I'M HAPPY TO SECOND AND, AND VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, BUT WELL, I MEAN MAYBE GOING BACK TO WHAT BILL WAS SAYING, MAYBE WE, UH, FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, WE FIND OUT WHAT OUR RECOURSE IS.

YEAH.

AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE I AGREE IT'S, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CHASING YOUR TAIL IF THAT'S THE CASE.

SO I, I MIGHT ADD THAT, UM, INSTEAD OF MAKING THIS MOTION, JUST FOR THESE TWO MEMBERS, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SPECIFIC TO THEM.

RIGHT.

JUST IN GENERAL, TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANYONE WHO HAS NOT SHOWN UP FOR THREE MEETINGS, THEN ANYONE IN THE FUTURE WHO DOES NOT SHOW UP IN THREE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THE CHAIR FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND, AND, UM, FELICIA, AS WELL AS STAFF TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING OUR BYLAWS.

SO GREG, YOU MADE THE INITIAL STEP THAT ALL RIGHT.

FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE, SO IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE TWO PEOPLE, BUT IT'S IN GENERAL, ANYONE WHO HAS MISSED PREVIOUSLY THREE MEETINGS, CAN YOU, UM, MAKE SURE YOUR MIKE'S ON, I CAN HEAR YOU.

I, I FORGOT TO PRESS MY BUTTON.

UM, YEAH.

I, I, I, I ACCEPT DANIEL'S AMENDMENT MY MOTION TO WHICH I HAVEN'T HEARD THE WORD CONSECUTIVE.

IS THAT IMPORTANT IN WHAT WE'RE SAYING? NO, WE'RE SAYING MISSING THREE MEETINGS OR THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS IS THREE.

I UNDERSTAND THE BYLAWS SAY THREE MEETINGS ON A ROLLING BASED 12 MONTH BASIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN YOU WANT TO CHECK? WELL, IT'S ONE THIRD OF ALL REGULAR MEETINGS IN A ROLLING 12 MONTHS.

SO THAT'D BE FOUR OR THREE IN A ROW FOR THREE ABSENT FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE REGULAR MEETINGS FOR ONE-THIRD OF ALL REGULAR MEETINGS IN A ROLLING 12 MONTH TIMEFRAME, DRAMATICALLY VACATES THE POSITION.

THERE YOU GO.

AND IT CITES THE CITY CODE, WHICH PAGE IT'S A E MEMBERSHIP E VERY BOTTOM, THE FIRST PAGE TO THE BYLAWS PAGE, BUT ALSO STATES YEAH.

SHOWS THE EXCEPTIONS HERE.

RIGHT? I MEAN, YOUR SECTIONS ARE UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT IF WE DON'T HEAR THE, WHAT THE EXCEPTIONS ARE OR THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN EXCEPTION, THEN AGREE.

HAVE TO JUST ASSUME THAT IT IS A MISSED MEETING AND THERE'S NO EXCUSE BECAUSE DON'T, YOU HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.

CORRECT.

I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO MORE THAN LIKELY.

YES.

AT THE VERY LAST SENTENCE IS FAILURE TO NOTIFY THE LIAISON BEFORE THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.

SO, I MEAN, WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S, WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAVE TO SHOW UP, WELL, YOU HAVE COMMITMENT TO THE OTHER VOLUNTEERS.

SO, YEAH, GREG, SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS PROVISION SAYS IT AUTOMATICALLY VACATES THE MEMBER'S POSITION SUBJECT TO HOLDOVER PROVISIONS IN SECTION 2, 1, 2 7 AND CITY CODE.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE POSITIONS ARE, BUT I PROBABLY HAD THE CITY CLERK DOES IT CAN SALARIED OR THIS COUNCIL MEMBER OR SOMETHING SAYS, CONTINUE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, JUST BEFORE WE TAKE ANY ACTION THERE, SOMEONE ACTUALLY VACATED, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO, WELL, WE CAN TABLE THE MOTION ALSO TILL FOR FUTURE BUSINESS AND HAVE FELICIA TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT CODE IS MAYBE FOR THE OTHER.

I DON'T, HONESTLY, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A NEED TO TABLE IT BASED ON THAT.

I THINK WE'RE JUST CONTACTING THEM TO LET THEM KNOW AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED, WHAT THE, WHAT RECOURSE WE HAVE WHEN, WHEN FACED WITH THE SITUATION IN THE FUTURE.

AND JUST AS A PERSONAL NOTE, I WATCHED YOUR MAY MEETING NOW OUR MEETING FROM MAY, AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THIS BEFORE, SO IF WE'RE GOING TO KICK, KEEP KICKING THE CAN.

WE'RE NOT, WE NEED IT.

I THINK WE NEED A VOTE ON THIS MOTION AND MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY.

WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? DID WE HAVE IT WHEN HE HAD A SECOND? RIGHT.

ALL SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

OPPOSED CARRIED.

DO WE HAVE TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT SOME POINT? CORRECT?

[00:20:03]

I'M SORRY.

IT'S THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

ARE WE, UM, ACCESSIBLE VIA A ZOOM NUMBER OR ANYTHING WHERE SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY? YEAH.

YEAH.

SO IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

FOR THEM TO DO SO TO CONTACT ME.

OH YEAH.

THE THING IS, LOOK AT NOON BEFORE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, UH, AND THEN FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, DO WE WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS SPECIFICALLY? I ACTUALLY HAD MORE TO TALK ABOUT IN THE BYLAWS.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

SO, UM, GOOD.

I, I, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR FELICIA.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY EXPLICIT MENTION OF USING ZOOM OR A VIRTUAL MEANS FOR TRANSACTING BUSINESS OF THE COMMISSION.

SO I WANTED CLARIFICATION.

SO WE DO NOT USE ZOO.

WE HAVE, UM, THE CISCO, UH, WEB SERVICE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RIGHT CORRECT TERMINOLOGY IS FOR THAT.

UM, BUT WE ARE A HYBRID.

SO IF WE DO HAVE A SETTING WHERE, UM, A COMMISSIONER IS GONNA JOIN US ONLINE VIRTUALLY, THEN WE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

UM, I DON'T SHARE IT.

AND UNLESS I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE, SO I GUESS I'M, I'M CALLING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT EXPLICIT IN THE BYLAWS THAT SAID THAT'S ALLOWED, IT'S A D IT WAS AN AGENDA.

THERE WAS AN AGENDA BASED ON THE COVID SITUATION.

OKAY.

SO DO WE NEED TO UPDATE THESE BYLAWS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN HERE? CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT.

I KNOW IT'S IT, YOU KNOW, COVID HAS CHANGED SO MUCH, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REFLECTED IF WE'RE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THAT.

IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

I WOULD PASS IT OVER TO, UM, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, SEE WHAT I CAN GET FROM THEM.

AND YOU CAN STILL PROVIDE HIM WITH THAT ADDENDUM.

RIGHT.

UM, CAUSE THAT'S, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO GO BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT AND I WOULD IT'S TO SAVE TIME.

I WOULD JUST PROPOSE THE AMENDMENT NOW, RIGHT.

TO INCORPORATE THE ADDENDUM OFFICIALLY WITHIN OUR BYLAWS.

WELL, I HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION WHEN THAT FIRST CAME OUT, WHICH WAS ABOUT TWO MEETINGS AGO, THREE MEETINGS AGO BECAUSE THEY CHANGED EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.

I'M SURE THAT WAS REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES BACK THEN.

YES.

I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I THINK THE COUNCIL PROVIDED YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL THAT'S WHAT THEIR AMENDMENT WAS, BUT, BUT I THINK WHAT DANIELLE, IF W IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE BYLAWS.

AND PERHAPS IT IS BECAUSE WHAT FELICIA DID WAS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE 96 PAGES.

SO THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING IN THERE, OR IT MIGHT BE ON THERE, BUT I THINK DANIEL'S POINT IS GOOD THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE BYLAW INFORMATION FOR ANYBODY IN GENERAL.

SORRY, THE 96 PAGES OF THE BYLAWS.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S THAT IT'S 96 PAGES, BUT IS THIS THE WHOLE THING? ALL THE BYLAWS.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, I, I STILL WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE LESS AMBIGUITY THE BETTER.

SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE ACTUALLY REQUEST FORMALLY OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO INCLUDE THE AGENDA, UM, ADOPTED BY COUNCIL FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE ACCEPT PARTICIPATION, NOT ONLY FOR COMMISSION MEMBERS, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC VIA SOME VIRTUAL PLATFORM.

YOU MADE A, YOU WERE MAKING A MOTION, I'M MAKING A MOTION.

UM, I'M CERTAINLY OKAY WITH THAT.

DANIEL.

IT'S JUST A LOT.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE ADDENDUM.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT SAYS, AND IT COULD BE A MO MOTION, BUT I, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WAIT A MONTH TO FIND THAT OUT.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO I JUST FEEL LIKE WE GOT TO PICK UP THE PACE HERE.

SO, SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD MOVE THE TABLE AT MOTIONS THE NEXT MONTH AND WE CAN GET A COPY OF THE ADDENDUM AND IT'S STILL WHAT IT IS, AND THAT WE CAN BE SPECIFIC ON THE, WHAT THEY DONE THEM IS TO INCORPORATE IT.

I MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN HERE.

WE WANT TO WAIT A SECOND.

I HAVE, HE MIGHT'VE KEPT A COPY OF IT TO KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE.

NOPE.

NOPE.

I DON'T LISTEN TO HAPPY AT THE ADDENDUM.

DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE ATTENDANCE? WASN'T THERE SOME STATEMENT ABOUT THE CHAIR HAD TO BE IN PERSON? I MEAN, IT SEEMED TO ME THERE WAS SOME DELINEATION OF THE HYBRID, THE DISGUST

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THAT IS THAT THE CHAIR HAD BE IN PERSON IN THE MEETING.

IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, I'M JUST DOING THAT FOR YOUR BENEFIT AS WELL.

RIGHT? SO, AND IS THAT THE ONLY, UH, CON COMMISSIONER THAT A PERSON THAT'S NECESSARY IN PERSON IS JUST THE CHAIR OR THE PRESIDING OFFICER, TO YOUR POINT, VICE CHAIR, CHAIR, WHOEVER'S RUNNING GOVERNMENT RUNNING THE MEETING HAS TO BE IN PERSON AT THE SITE TO RUN THE MEETING.

SO TO DANIEL'S POINT, ANYBODY ELSE COULD OPT TO DO A VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION, BUT, BUT THE CURRENT, SO WHEREVER THAT, WHEREVER THAT DEFINITION IS THAT SETS, IT SHOULD STATE THE REST OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THIS AS BEING SO WHEREVER THAT IS, THAT SHOULD COMPLETE WHAT THE MOTION, THE MOTION THAT YOUR TALKING TALK SHOULD EXPLAIN IT, BUT IT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHY IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO TABLE A MOTION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING WHEN SHE ACTUALLY GIVES EVERYBODY EAT DENIM.

SO HE MAKES SURE THAT EXPLICIT DANIEL DOESN'T LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, IF IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY AN ACCEPTED MOTION AND IT'S PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL.

SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, I MEAN, WE'RE JUST REASSERTING MARIA.

WE CAN PUT POINT.

YEAH.

WE CAN PUT THROUGH THAT WAY.

I MEAN, IT'S RME ACCEPTED BY THE GOVERNING BODY.

YEAH.

YOU PUT A COMMOTION AS THE ONE THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND PUT FORWARD.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO I, I REVISE MY, UH, MOTION TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT THE AGENDUM FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND PARTICIPATION OF TECHNOLOGY, OUR PARTICIPATION IN MEETINGS VIA THE USES OF THAT SET TECHNOLOGY, UH, HAS BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL AND THEREBY SHOULD BE FORMALLY INTRODUCED, UM, UH, WRITTEN INTO OUR EXISTING BYLAWS.

I LIKE THAT.

VERY GOOD.

YEP.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT? WE HAVE A SECOND NOW SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE MEETING.

RACHEL SAY FELICIA, JOHN, UH, HE SAT THAT BY THE WAY, ARE WE, ARE WE, ARE WE GOING TO DO ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEMS IN THE PACKETS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM FELICIA? I MEAN, WE DID RECEIVE INFORMATION AND WE HAVEN'T, BUT BASED ON LAST MEETING REQUESTS AND WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED ANY OF THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN JUST TO CATCH YOU UP TODAY, WE DIDN'T, UH, BECAUSE, AND NOW WE CAN DO THIS, WE DIDN'T APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES BECAUSE DANIEL WAS THE NEW, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM SPECIFICALLY.

WE CAN DO THAT.

RIGHT.

AND WE JUST, CAN WE JUST FINISH THE, UH, I ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY TO AS YOU, BUT I HAVE LOTS MORE QUESTIONS ON THE BYLAWS.

OKAY.

WE'RE JUST UPDATING OUR, WHERE SHE WAS.

SO, UH, WE WERE JUST GOING THROUGH THE, UH, THE BYLAWS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

NO WORRIES.

ALL RIGHT.

SO DANA, WE STILL GOING THROUGH THE BYLAWS.

SO DANIEL HAD LIKE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, SO, AND HELLO.

UM, NICE TO MEET YA.

UM, SO, UH, ON THE FIRST PAGE, UH, SECTION C OF ARTICLE THREE, LINE 43, IT STATES THAT BOARD MEMBERS SERVE FOR A TERM OF FOUR YEARS, BEGINNING, MARCH 1ST ON THE YEAR OF APPOINTMENT, I'M COMING INTO THIS BODY IN JUNE.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION WITHIN OUR BYLAWS ACTUALLY LEAVES ME.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, UH, IT APPEARS THAT KATHY TOVO IS STEPPING DOWN, UH, CAUSE SHE CAN NO LONGER RUN, UM, FOR REELECTION.

SO I GOT APPOINTED BY THE NEXT, WHAT WAS THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.

I THINK THAT WHEN THE NEW, IF ANOTHER COMMISSIONER IS APPOINTED, THAT IT'S THE DISCRETION OF THE NEW COMMISSIONER TO POINT, RIGHT? SO YOU COULD BE ON AND KATHY COULD LEAVE AND THEN YOU COULD BE OFF BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO WINS YOUR DISTRICT CHOOSES ANOTHER PERSON OR YOU MEET AND APPEAL AND THEY ARE SATISFIED THAT YOU'RE WELL-REPRESENTED DISTRICT NINE.

AND YOU PUT, YOU HAVE TO BE REAPPOINTED, I THINK BY THAT PERSON TO YOUR QUESTION.

I THINK THOUGH, WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE DATES? I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS.

OKAY.

SO I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION.

I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE CLEAR FOR, I MEAN, A LOT OF US ARE GOING TO BE STAGGERED ANYWAY.

I THINK OVER TIME AS THIS BODY MOVES FORWARD, UM, JUST GIVEN THE PECULIARITIES OF LIFE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY READING OF IT IS THAT IT

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BEGINS MARCH 1ST.

IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU'RE APPOINTED SOMETIME AFTER MARCH 1ST, I THINK IT STILL GOES AROUND TO MARCH 1ST.

UM, AND TWO, UM, COMMISSIONER REVIEWS, UM, COMMISSIONER BAILEY'S POINT THAT IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBERS, COMMISSIONERS, THE SEE COMMISSIONS SPEED COUNCIL MEMBER.

YEAH.

UM, SO YEAH, WHEN YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER CHANGES, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPOINT SOMEONE THAT THEY'RE CHOOSING AND THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

SO THAT'S IMMEDIATE OR IS IT, WE JUST SORT OF SIT UNTIL THE QUESTION IS CALLED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER? UM, I THINK LIKE I WAS PROBABLY THE MOST RECENT TO GO THROUGH THAT.

AND, UM, IT WAS BASICALLY CITY STAFF REACHED OUT AND SAID, ARE YOU WILLING TO CONTINUE? UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBER WISHES TO NOW, IF YOU WENT IN, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO CONTINUE, ACTUALLY I WAS IN THAT POSITION ALSO ON A DIFFERENT COMMISSION.

AND SO WHEN THE NEW PERSON CAME IN, I JUST SENT THEM A EMAIL AND SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M ON THIS COMMISSION.

I SERVE AT YOUR PLEASURE IF YOU'D LIKE TO MEET GREAT.

IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY TO REAPPOINT, JUST LET ME KNOW.

AND, AND WE WORKED IT OUT THAT WAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, AND JUST A QUESTION FOR FELICIA, THE FORMALITY OF, UM, COMMISSIONER SMITH RUNNING THE MEETING, NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR CHAIR, DO WE HAVE TO SWITCH OR DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE OR ANYTHING? ARE WE GOOD? I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

JUST TO SWITCH.

CAUSE IT'S IN THE BYLAWS OF THE CHEST RESPONSIBILITY TO CHAIR THE MEETING, VICE CHAIR DOES IT WHEN CHAIRS ABSENT, BUT I KNOW I, BUT NOW THAT YOU'RE HERE THOUGH, DO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT OR SINCE WE ALREADY STARTED TO BE TENURED.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SORRY.

I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO GET MY BEARINGS.

UM, OKAY.

THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, UM, IF, IF I CAN MOVE FORWARD, I'M SORRY IF I'VE, UH, TRIED TO DO MY HOMEWORK FOR ME.

UM, SO THE, UH, PAGE, THEY'RE NOT PAGE NUMBERS, BUT THE SECTION AL OF ARTICLE SEVEN, ONLINE 44, UM, IT STATES THAT THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER DEPARTMENT SHALL RETAIN ALL OTHER BOARD DOCUMENTS THAT ARE NOT THE AGENDAS, APPROVEMENT IT'S INTERNAL REVIEW REPORTS AND BYLAWS.

I JUST, I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THAT ACTUALLY DEFINED AND MAYBE FELICIA YOU'D HAVE AN IDEA OR SOMEONE, EXCUSE ME, DANIEL, WHAT WAS THE ON PAGE THREE, ACTUALLY.

GOT YOU MEETINGS LAST WEEK CONVENTION CENTER DEPARTMENT.

SO I ASKED THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, SHOULD I KNOW WHAT THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE THAT ARE AT THAT DEPARTMENT, RIGHT.

I, I WANT TO BE THE MOST UP TO SPEED SORT OF COMMISSIONER IN MY SERVICE.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

YES.

SO THEY ARE, UM, WE HAVE A WEBPAGE FOR OUR COMMISSION BOARD.

UM, EVERYTHING THAT I SHARE WITH Y'ALL OR WHAT'S GIVEN TO ME IS POSTED ON THAT PAGE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOCATION THAT YOU CAN FIND THEM.

UM, W THERE IS, UM, THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT RETENTION WHERE I CAN ONLY HOLD MY COPIES FOR SO LONG, BUT IT, IT, IT RESTS IN THE WEBSITE.

SO ANY DOCUMENTS UP TO DATE IS ON OUR WEBSITE.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE LIKE, UH, UH, PARTICULAR DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDAS, ANY DOCUMENTS THAT ARE GIVEN BY PRESENTERS.

UM, ANYTHING THAT SHARED WITH ME THAT, UM, MAYBE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WANTS TO SHARE WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

I'LL POST IT ON THERE.

OKAY, GREAT.

PERFECT.

SO THESE ARE POSTED NOW.

NOT YET I WILL HAPPEN.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE LAST, UM, QUESTION THAT I HAD PERTAINS TO, UH, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION A, UM, BY NUMBER 13, THE TOURISM COMMISSION WILL HAVE NO COMMITTEES.

AND THEN BELOW IT STARTS TO FINDING ALL THE COMMITTEES.

SO I'M WONDERING WHY THAT PROVISION IS IN ARTICLE EIGHT, BECAUSE IT IMMEDIATELY CONTRADICTS ITSELF IN THE ENSUING.

AND ACTUALLY IT HAS THE SAME LETTERING.

IT'S A C D IT'S NOT AN AIR.

NO, H C C D IS OSCAR GET VETERAN CENTER DEPARTMENT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECTION NUMBERS OR LETTERS, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THAT IDENTIFY EACH SECTION.

IT SAYS A C D I'M WONDERING IF THIS, THE TOURISM COMMISSION WILL HAVE NO COMMITTEES IS ACTUALLY AN ERROR, BYE INCLUSION, AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELETED.

[00:35:03]

WELL, NO, SIR.

I'M SORRY, BUT I'M NOT, I'M LOST.

I'M NOT FALLING WHILE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

GIVE ME THIS, GIVE ME THE HEADING THE HEADING SECTION.

I THINK THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF DUTIES, MEMBERSHIP MEETINGS OFTEN.

I SEE THE WORKING GROUP WAS YOU LOST IT? NO, ACTUALLY.

SO I PRINTED THIS OFF ONLINE, AND THERE HAS 10 ARTICLES AND IT SAYS THE BYLAWS OF THE TOURISM COMMISSION, IS THIS AN OLD COPY? SO THE ONE ONLINE IS NOT UP TO DATE.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON ON THEIR END, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

THAT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING I DO.

YEAH.

SO THEN THIS IS COMPLETELY, YEAH.

THE ONE I GAVE YOU TODAY IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, IT'S AMAZING THAT I STILL HAD THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT I GUESS WORKED BEFORE, SO, OKAY.

SO APOLOGIES EVERYONE LOOKING AT THE WRONG VERSION, BUT I HAVE TO CALL THAT OUT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC LOOKS AT THAT.

AND IF THE BYLAWS ARE NOT UP TO DATE, THEN WE'VE GOT A REAL PROBLEM WITH, IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

AND BY THE WAY, NO APOLOGY NECESSARY.

IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY, UH, NICE TO HAVE SOMEBODY LOOKING AT.

SO, UM, I, I, UH, I THINK I RETRAX, UM, MY LAST QUESTION, APOLOGIES.

END OF DISCUSSION.

ON, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR CON YOUR QUESTIONS ON THE BYLAWS? I THINK FOR NOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH MORE EDITS OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE BROADER STRATEGY OF HAVING THESE BYLAWS AT THIS MEETING? WHAT WAS THE INTENT? I'M SORRY, MS. DODGE.

SO WE HAVE IT AS A STANDING ITEM TO RE, TO LOOK AT OUR BYLAWS, UM, TO JUST KIND OF LIKE REFRESH OUR MEMORIES ON WHAT'S IN THE BYLAWS TO REFOCUS WHATSAPP PURPOSE.

WHAT'S OUR JUDY'S, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ON SUBMISSION IN THE HOPES OF LIKE THAT AS WE REVIEW THEM EACH TIME THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING, SOME ITEMS, IT PROMPTS SOME ITEM OF BUSINESS.

OKAY.

UM, SO SORT OF JUST REFRESHER AND, AND AGAIN, LIKE IF WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH AND WE'RE LIKE FOR THE FIRST TIME LOOKING AT IT AND THINKING HOW MAYBE THIS MEANS SOMETHING ELSE, OR MAYBE THERE'S AN IDEA THAT CONNECTS, OR THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT CONNECT WITH THIS.

AND BECAUSE IT SAYS THIS IN OUR BYLAWS, PERHAPS THIS IS OUR PURVIEW AND WE CAN, WE SHOULD BRING THIS AS AN ITEM OF BUSINESS BEFORE US.

SO IS THIS A STANDING ITEM AT EVERY MEETING AT THE MOMENT? OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO THERE'S OTHER CHANCES TO UPDATE THIS.

IF YOU FIND THAT THERE ARE IN CONSISTENCIES OR PERHAPS SOMETHING TO BE ADDED.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND JUST, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THAT YOU CAN CALL, WE CAN CLARIFY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, YOU CHAIR, UH, THE ORIGINAL, UM, UNDER PURPOSE AND DUTIES, THE ORIGINAL SECTIONS A AND B WERE DEFINED BY COUNCIL, RIGHT.

AND THOSE HAVE NOT CHANGED JUST I'M SAYING, JUST FOR USAGE ARE NEW, RIGHT.

AND THE GUTS OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WHY IT'S HERE IS SO MANY ISSUES COME UP, THAT WE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING PUT OUR ATTENTION ON THAT FALL WITHIN REALLY SECTION B OF THAT PURPOSE AND DUTIES THAT, WHICH IS I CONSIDER IT, I'VE MENTIONED.

I THINK IT'S PRETTY BROAD COVERS A LOT OF GROUND.

AND SO IT'S HERE TO KEEP US ON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TASK ON POINT.

AND, UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO REASSERT THAT WE WERE, WE WERE GIVEN THESE DUTIES BY THE COUNCIL AND WE HAVEN'T CHALLENGED ANY OF THEM OR CHANGED ANY OF THEM SO FAR AS LONG AS WE'VE BEEN ON THIS BODY.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T.

THE PURPOSE IS TO DISCUSS THAT SINCE YOU'RE NEW.

THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

AND PERHAPS WE WANT TO UPDATE THE CHAIRMAN ON THE MOTION THAT WE PASSED PREVIOUSLY, OR FELICIA, DO YOU WANT TO, CAN YOU RESTATE THAT FOR US? UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE APPROVED MINUTES? YEAH, NO, NO, NO, NOT THE APPROVED MINUTES.

I MENTIONED THAT TO HER ABOUT THE MOTION THAT WE HAD REGARDING THE THREE MISSES AND THAT ONE ABSENCES ABSENCES.

RIGHT.

COOL.

I DIDN'T WRITE IT WORD FOR WORD, BUT THEY'RE BASICALLY THE MOTION IS STATING THAT THE ATTENDANCE, UM, WHEN WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS THAT MISSED THREE CONSECUTIVE OR FOUR MEETINGS, THAT THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY VACATING THEIR SEATS, UM, TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE EITHER YOU

[00:40:01]

CONTACT THEM AS THE CHAIR OR, UH, I ALWAYS CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE SINCE OUR LAST YEAR OF VENTURE THAT WE HAD WITH MS. MEETINGS.

UM, SO THAT FROM THERE IS WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE STANDING.

SO, SO THIS BODY, UM, VOTED TO THAT.

IF, IF SOMEBODY MISSES THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS THAT THE CHAIR REACHES OUT TO THAT PERSON, OR THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY DROPPED FROM THE REACH OUT TO, TO REACH OUT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD SEEM IN ORDER BECAUSE TO DROP THEM AUTOMATICALLY WOULD NOT SEEM IN ORDER BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE IS A RULE OR A BYLAWS ABOUT THAT, THAT AFTER SO MANY MEETINGS, CITY COUNCIL OR CITY STAFF IS SUPPOSED TO, YEAH, I DO WANT TO MAKE A POINT THAT I DO CONTACT THEM ON THEIR PERSONAL EMAILS MONTHLY.

OKAY.

THERE WAS ALSO, UM, WE WANTED CLARIFICATION ON THIS SECTION 2, 1, 2 7 OF THE CITY CODE, BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE HOLDOVER PROVISIONS ARE CLEAR ON THAT, BUT IT'S RELATED TO THIS.

SO WE WANTED RIGHT.

SO THERE, THERE IS RIGHT THERE IN OUR BYLAWS THAT IF YOU'RE ABSENT FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS OR ONE-THIRD WHOLE REGULAR MEETINGS ENROLLING 12TH YEAR AUTOMATICALLY VACATED ABSENCE TO, TO INNOCENT RIGHT.

SUBJECT TO HOLD OVER, PROVISIONS ARE SET UP ALL THOSE.

UM, ACTUALLY I'M LOOKING AT THE HOLD OVER PROFICIENT.

IT IS, UH, A BOARD MEMBER WHO VACATES HIS POSITION UNDER SUBSECTION 2, 1 21, WHICH IS AUTOMATIC VACATION CONTINUES TO SERVE IN A HOLD OVER CAPACITY UNTIL THE EARLIER OF THE DATE, THE SUCCESSOR IS APPOINTED TO FILL THE POSITION OR THE 60TH DAY AFTER THE CITY CLERK NOTIFIES THE NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS RESIDENCY CREATES AN AUTOMATIC VACANCY THAT REQUIRES A NEW APPOINTMENT.

SO THE WAY I'M READING THIS IS THAT 60 DAYS AFTER THE CLERK TELLS THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THIS PERSON HAS AUTOMATICALLY VACATED, THEY ARE STILL ON THE BOARD UNTIL REPLACED TILL THE COUNCIL OR WELL, 60 DAYS OR UNTIL REPLACED.

RIGHT.

SO THAT NIGHT, SO IT'S NOT SO DRAMATIC DROP OFF AFTER 60 DAYS.

SO YES, I READ IT.

SO THE FACT IS ON THE GROUND THAT THEY'VE MISSED THREE MEETINGS, THEY'RE SORT OF IN LIMBO FOR 60 DAYS, AND THEN THEY OFFICIALLY DROP WELL, CLARA.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.

IF THEY CONTINUED FOR, IF THEY MISS THREE MEETINGS IN A HOLD OVER POSITION AND THEY CONTINUE IN THAT HOLD OVER POSITION UNTIL THE COUNCIL MEMBER, RIGHT.

DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY.

AND IT HAPPENED.

I MEAN, I GOT CONTACTED FOR, I WAS CONTACTED FOR ABSENCES LAST YEAR AND I WAS UNAWARE OF MY OWN ATTENDANCE RECORD.

I THOUGHT I'D ONLY MISSED YOU.

RIGHT.

I WAS CONFUSED.

AND I THINK I HAD AN EXCUSED ABSENCE FOR LIKE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO OF THOSE.

AND I DID CONTACT YOU THAT W I DIDN'T JUST NOT SHOW UP.

AND, UM, SO WHEN I CONFIRMED, YES, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES I WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE UNLESS YOU WANT TO REPLACE ME.

AND THEN THEY SAID, NO, WE WANT YOU TO CONTINUE.

AND AFTER THE CONVERSATION, IT WAS JUST LIKE, TO THE POINT JOHN WAS MAKING EARLIER, IT WAS JUST LIKE, IT WAS DONE.

IT'S RESET BACK TO ZERO.

SO, AND THANKFULLY, I HAVEN'T MISSED A MEETING SINCE THAT WE'RE PAST THOSE COVID ERA TIMES AND CRAZY YEARS, BUT, UM, SO IT GOES BACK TO ZERO.

SO THERE'S STILL THAT SITUATION, EVEN IF YOU MISSED THE THREE MEETINGS, COME REACH OUT LIKE THEY DID TO ME.

AND WE SAY, THIS IS, AND THEY REALIZE THAT THERE WAS PROBABLY AN EXCUSED ABSENCE THERE JUST WASN'T RECORDED APPROPRIATELY OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER, AND THAT JUST RESETS AND THEY CAN RESET THEM BACK ON.

IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATICALLY, YOU'RE GOING THREE STRIKES.

YOU'RE OUT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS SAYING.

SO AT THIS POINT OUT THREE CONSECUTIVE WOULD BE, AT THIS MOMENT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER ALTER AND COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT YOU MISSED.

SO, YEAH.

AND THE WHOLE, AND THE WHOLE POINT WAS, WE WANT TO, RE-INSTITUTE BEING TOUGHER ABOUT THIS, INCLUDING THE ATTENDANCE SHEET AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE THREE ABSENCES, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS CALL AND SAY, ARE YOU STILL COMMITTED TO THIS? OR IS THERE SOMETHING PREVENTING YOU, OR DID YOU HAVE AN EXCUSED ABSENCE THAT WE DIDN'T RECORD CORRECTLY AND REALLY START, YOU KNOW, MAKING THIS WORK BASICALLY.

YEAH.

AND IS IT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE CHAIR TO CONTACT THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBER DIRECTLY OR DO YOU HAVE TO MANAGE OUR COMMUNICATIONS TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

[00:45:02]

FELICIA, ARE YOU ASKING IF KARA MCGEE NEEDS TO CONTACT THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS? WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS MANAGING A LOT OF REQUESTS AND, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE MORE EFFECTIVE IF OUR CHAIR JUST REACHES OUT DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OFFER, EXCUSE ME, THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE, SPECIFICALLY WHERE WE'RE HAVING THE ISSUE.

SO WE CAN TRY AND FIND AN AMICABLE DIRECT WAY OF MANAGING THE ISSUE AND HOPEFULLY FINDING A SOLUTION, YOU'LL FIND OUT WHAT ELSE.

SO I I'M ONLY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY MIC IS ON OR OFF.

UM, MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE IT, THE CITY'S GOT A PROTOCOL THAT THEY FOLLOW, I THINK THEY DO.

AND, UM, IF WE'RE GOING AROUND THAT PROTOCOL, I DON'T WANT TO GET A COUNCIL MEMBER UPSET WITH US.

THAT WOULD JUST BE MY CONCERN.

SO THE CORRECT WAY IS ME ACTING CITY COUNCIL, I MEAN, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

AND THEN THEY COUNSEL ON TALK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH I'M DOING, WHICH I HAVE ALREADY SHARED ABOUT DISTRICT ONE IN EIGHT.

OKAY.

IS IT POSSIBLE, I DON'T KNOW.

ARE YOU SEEING, UH, THE CHAIR ON THOSE, THOSE MESSAGES, IS IT ALLOWED OR WOULD THAT NOT BE JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE WE CAN POTENTIALLY LIKE LOOP PEOPLE WHO NEED TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION IN THE CONVERSATION? SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEING SAID OR HOW LONG THERE'S A DELAY COMMUNICATION.

OKAY.

UM, I'VE DEFINITELY SHARED, UM, ATTENDANCE, UM, FOR, WITH EVERYONE BEFORE I CAN DO THAT AGAIN, I'M NOT COPYING ANYBODY FROM THIS BOARD, UM, ON COMMUNICATIONS WITH CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

UM, IF THAT'S AN OKAY, THEN I'LL DEFINITELY CAN START.

UM, I CAN ASK THEM THAT QUESTION.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'D BE, YOU KNOW, YOU TELL ME IT'S YOUR INBOX, BUT I FEEL LIKE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST MOVING US FORWARD.

I MEAN, AS I SAID EARLIER, I, I KIND OF SAVED THIS MEETING TODAY AND I DIDN'T REALLY ANTICIPATE BEING ON THE SPOT LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CO-CHAIR HAS SAID IT REALLY WELL MORE PERSPECTIVES IN THIS BODY.

AND IF PEOPLE AREN'T SHOWING UP AND PROVIDING THESE PERSPECTIVES, IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE REALLY INSISTENT ABOUT KIND OF GETTING THIS GOING.

UM, AND IF, IF THERE'S A LOG JAM AT THE COUNCIL OFFICE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, REALLY TRYING TO COMMUNICATE THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS BODY.

AND ALSO IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO APPOINT SOMEONE WHO FULFILLS THIS POSITION ON THIS COMMISSION AND OTHER BOARDS.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

I'VE HEARD YOU, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU AT THE MOMENT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC? ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, LOOKING AT THE AGENDA, THE LAST WE COULD RETURN TO APPROVAL, WE COULD INDEED.

SO YOU HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH ALL OF NEW BUSINESS, IS THAT CORRECT? ALL RIGHT.

AND, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS STILL OPEN, BUT THERE WAS NOBODY THERE.

NOBODY, NOBODY CAME FOR COMMENTS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND COMMISSIONER CANNOT, HE'S NOT WITH US TODAY.

SO I IMAGINE THAT TALK'S ENVIRONMENT WAS DISPENSED WITH AND IMAGINED THAT ITEM C WAS DISPENSED WITH CAUSE YOU AND I HAVEN'T TALKED SINCE LAST MEETING.

RIGHT.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

YEAH, I LET'S SEE IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION.

LET'S GO TO BACK TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AND AT LEAST DISPENSE WITH THAT ITEM OF BUSINESS.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PREVIOUS MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND WRANGLING MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING? ANY COMMENTS? ANY CORRECTIONS CONCERNS? ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS NO DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY AYE.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

ANY, NO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE IT IN THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

ABSOLUTELY.

CAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE.

AND SO WE HAVE, I WANT TO ASCENSION THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME AND MY OTHER MEETINGS.

I ONLY EVER HAVE TO RECALL THE YEAS AND NAYS, AND I ALWAYS FORGET FOR CITY COUNCIL.

I HAVE TO DO YEAS AND NAYS.

ANY ABSTENTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN I SEE THESE OTHER PACKAGES THAT ARE HERE.

SO, UM, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE PACKETS THAT WERE PROVIDED? THIS IS INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED.

IS THIS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE

[00:50:01]

EYES ON THIS FACETIME ON SCENE? OKAY.

I THINK THESE ARE, THESE WERE FROM SOME OF THE, FROM OUR MEETING NOTES, SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT WERE MADE IN THE LAST MEETING SESSION.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE.

I JUST, I CAN'T TELL FROM OUR AGENDA, IF, IF WE HAVE PERMISSION FOR DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS, SINCE THEY DON'T APPEAR UNDERNEATH, UNDER THE BUSINESS OF THIS MEETING.

SO WHAT'S OUR RE WHAT'S OUR, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THESE HANDOUTS IN TERMS OF THIS MEETING, IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP ON THE AGENDA AS SOMETHING.

RIGHT.

SO I WOULD THINK LIKE IF, IF WE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, SERVING THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A REJECTION TO DISCUSSING THESE? BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE ALWAYS HAVE TO PUBLISH OUR AGENDA.

RIGHT.

AND SO DISCUSSION ON THESE IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS A STANDING ITEM FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO WE COULD MAKE DISCUSSION OF THESE PACKETS, THE NEXT MEETING ON THE NEXT MEETING AGENDA, IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT.

SO WE HAVE TIME TO REVIEW THEM AND GO THROUGH COMMISSIONER CHANNELS AT TODAY'S MEETING.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUBLISH OUR AGENDA.

AND I DON'T SEE IT ON THIS AGENDA AS A DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

WE ONLY HAVE FOUR ITEMS, NEW BUSINESS IT'S NOT BEEN PUBLISHED.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

AND THEN THE BYLAWS, WE HAVE TO PUBLISH IT.

SO WE SHOULD MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO, UM, INCLUDE THESE ITEMS OR AN ITEM ON THE NEXT AGENDA WHERE WE GET INTO THESE BEEN PROVIDED TO US.

IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT, UM, TODAY BY EMAIL AND IT'S NOW WITHIN THE 76 HOUR WINDOW, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE MAKING REFERENCE TO? YEAH.

AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, UM, ON THE, UM, BYLAWS, WE HAVE TO PRODUCE AN AGENDA, UM, IN ADVANCE RIGHT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

SO WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF WE NOW WENT OFF THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS THESE AND WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE PUBLIC AND OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, IT HASN'T BEEN NOTIFIED.

SO IT WOULD SEEM THAT TO FOLLOW THE RULES, WE WOULD NEED TO SAY, HEY, LET'S PICK THESE UP NEXT MEETING.

AND THAT WOULD GIVE SOMEONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THEM TO YOU IF THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED TODAY AND SORT OF RE RESEARCH AND LOOK AT OTHER THINGS AND THEN COME BACK AND BE LIKE, OKAY, LET'S HAVE AN AGENDA.

UM, I LET'S SET TIME IN THE AGENDA TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS AND RESPOND.

WE CAN EACH RESPOND, UM, TO WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED OR IF WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO INVITE, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THIS REPORT TO ACTUALLY PRESENT ON IT? I KNOW WE'RE BEING PROVIDED AS SORT OF LIKE A FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES, BUT I THINK IT WOULD REALLY HELP US IN TERMS OF OUR, UH, BROADER, UM, INFORMATION FACT FINDING OF THE TOURISM ECONOMY HERE IN AUSTIN TO HAVE THEM COME AND PRESENT ON, ON THE FINDINGS OF THIS REPORT.

WE CAN, WE CAN ASK, UM, ENTITIES COME TO COME PRESENT.

UM, WE HAVE TO, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE THE MEETING THAT WE WANT THEM TO COME TO.

SO THEY'LL TELL US WHEN THEY CAN COME.

UM, AND RECENTLY THEY'VE BEEN ASKED RECENTLY, THEY'VE BEEN REQUESTING FROM US IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO PRESENT THAT WE GIVE THEM QUESTIONS, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS SO THAT THEY CAN THEN PRESENT A REPORT THAT ADDRESSES THOSE QUESTIONS.

I MENTIONED AT SHANNON, UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, THE CONVENTION CENTER STAFF WAS HERE AT OUR LAST MEETING.

THEY MADE A PRESENTATION, CORRECT.

THESE WERE FOLLOWUP QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD AFTER THEY MADE THEIR PRESENTATION.

SO THIS IS THEIR RESPONSE.

SO, YEAH.

YEAH.

YEP.

SO, SO I WOULD

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MOVE THAT.

WE PUT THIS ON OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS, UH, FOR BOTH THE, UH, BOTH INFORMATION SHEETS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? SO THE MOTION IS THAT WE HAVE A SET FUTURE AGENDA, OR WE SET AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE NEXT MEETING TO DISCUSS THE HANDOUTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO US TODAY.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OPPOSED? NO.

AND ANY ABSTENTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, GUYS.

HAVEN'T AND WE'LL SET THAT AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, JUST TO GIVE US TIME TO TALK ABOUT ALL RIGHT.

UH, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THAT PROFESSOR SANDERS CAN JOIN US IN JULY? SO I

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WOULD MOVE TO AFRICA, GIVE US A PRESENTATION.

I SECOND THAT MOVED AND SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION ON PROFESSOR SANDERS BEING ADDED TO THE AGENDA FOR JULY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY ANY OPPOSED, ANY ABSTENTIONS.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT IF IN FACT, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IN THE JULY MEETING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS WHAT FELICIA SAID IS HOW, HOW LONG IS THIS? HOW BIG IS THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU SENT TO US? 95 PAGES, 92 PAGES.

THIS IS A 92 PAGE DOCUMENT.

THAT'S ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT AND BUDGET OF THE CONVENTION CENTER IN JULY.

AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE HAVE MR. SANDERS MAKE A PRESENTATION ABOUT HIS THEORIES ON CONVENTION CENTER, BUSINESS MODELS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH TIME BASED ON OUR MEETING, TIME TO ADDRESS.

THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST.

SO I'M JUST POINTING IT OUT TO US AS A GROUP.

THAT'S A LOT OF, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, SO I'M ALL FOR IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

WE ONLY HAVE AN HOUR, RIGHT.

SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T HAVE, SANDRA'S COME, I'M ASKING, DO WE HA HOW, HOW DO WE STREAMLINE THAT IN A MEETING SO THAT WE KNOW HOW LONG HAS THE PRESENTATION IS AND HOW, AND WE SET ASIDE A CERTAIN BAR IF WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE IN AND OUT OF HERE IN 90 MINUTES, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT OUR TIMEFRAME IS FOR MEANING, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A CHALK BLOCK MEETING.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.

THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE BIG TOPICS THAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING OUR WAY TORCH TO DANIEL'S POINT.

I MEAN, WE'RE IN WHAT WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

AND SO KNOW THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ABSTENTION PEOPLE AND ALL OF THE THINGS IT'S THESE, THIS IS THE MEAT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN BEARING DOWN ON.

SO, UM, I THINK HAVING SENDERS COME IS ABSOLUTELY ON POINT.

I'M JUST WANT TO ALSO DRAW TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THIS IS A 92 PAGE REPORT, AND NONE OF US HAVE READ YET.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO OPEN DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC, WE HAVE TO CARVE OUT OUR OWN TIME TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

THAT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD SET IT UP TO WHERE, TO ME THAT IF SANDERS AGREES TO JULY, THEN WE TABLE THIS FOR THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

FAIR ENOUGH.

I'M JUST, IT DOESN'T THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? WELL, THAT, THAT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD TO ME.

OKAY.

I DISAGREE WITH YOUR CHARACTERIZATION OF HIS THEORY BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY HAS FACTS AND EVIDENCE AND HE, PROFESSOR SANDERS HAS PROBABLY READ MORE REPORTS BY HVS FAIR ENOUGH THAN ANYBODY.

AND HE HAS THE TWO PREVIOUS HVS REPORTS FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, BASICALLY MEMORIZED.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY A PERFECT TIME TO HAVE THE TWO TOGETHER ON THE SAME DAY.

YEAH, I, I WAS, I WAS ALSO AGREEING WITH THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE THAN 10 MINUTES TO DISCUSS OUR OWN DISCUSSION OF HBS.

YEAH.

WITHOUT MR. SANDERS, WE CAN LISTEN TO HIS PRESENTATION, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PLANNING APPROPRIATELY.

THAT'S ALL I WOULD ARGUE.

WE SHOULD HAVE HIM GO FIRST AND HE CAN COME KILL HIM.

I ALREADY HAD TIME TO READ THIS AND HE CAN PROVIDE SOME COMMENT THAT WILL HELP US HAVE OUR DISCUSSION.

RIGHT? YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO HIM GOING FAST BECAUSE NEITHER.

RIGHT.

AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AGAIN IN AUGUST.

I JUST THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A BOTTLENECK OF HEAVY DUTY PROCESSING.

IT ISN'T, IT ISN'T THAT I KNOW THAT ONE'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHER, I THINK THEY'RE EQUALLY IMPORTANT AND WE WANT THEM, BUT MY POINT WAS HE'S HIS, HIS FLEXIBILITY IS DIFFERENT THAN OURS, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO IF YOU CAN LAND THEM IN JULY, LET'S GET THEM.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

I AGREE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE HIM PRESENT FIRST BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, WE GOT HIM IN, WE'VE GOT HIS, HIS TIME, AS YOU SAID, FLEXIBLE THAN WE ARE.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

AND IF WE RUN OUT OF TIME DISCUSSING THE HOUSE, WE CAN JUST ROLL IT TO THE CONTINUATION.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE NECESSARILY EXPECTED TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING IN ONE DISCUSSION IN ONE MEETING MAY NEED SEVERAL MEETINGS BECAUSE AS YOU SAY, IT'S THE MEETING OF THAT.

I AGREE WITH ALL SAID, I'M JUST, I WAS JUST TALKING AMONGST OURSELVES.

THIS IS NINE.

THIS IS A LOT TO DIGEST.

92 PAGES.

YEAH.

MAYBE THERE'S A LOT OF PHOTOS.

I THINK I'LL BE THE OPPOSITE.

ANOTHER OF THE CHARTS HOW'D YOU MENTIONED IT WAS 92 PAGES IS LIKE, YEAH, DEFINITELY NEED TO CARVE OUT SOME TIME.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE CRAMMING THE NIGHT BEFORE.

I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE, THE COMMUNICATIONS OF, OF THIS BODY WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

AND I KNOW THAT WE DO THAT THROUGH, UM, FELICIA.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE SPEAK TO SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD WITH THE TOURISM COMMISSION, UM, AND GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

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I MEAN, I KNOW THAT FELICIA HAS BEEN IN TOUCH, BUT I KIND OF LIKED TO, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE AND ALSO GET MORE ACQUAINTED WITH, WITH THE OFFICE THAT REALLY HELPS RUN OUR COMMISSION.

SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROPOSE THAT THEY COME AND DO A SHORT PRESENTATION ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT NEXT MEETING CAUSE IT'S SUPER FULL, BUT, UM, I FEEL LIKE HAVING A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, MAYBE THEY COME ONCE A YEAR THAT INFORMS ALL COMMISSIONERS, ALL THE NEW, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS THEY'RE DOING AND HOW THEY SEE THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMISSION, MAYBE.

UM, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE.

CHECK-IN YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PART OF THAT COULD BE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE CORRECT PROTOCOL IN ORDER TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN AS PART OF THAT.

YEAH, I AGREE.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THE, UM, REVIEW OF THE BYLAWS OZ, A STANDING, UM, RIGHT.

AGENDA ITEM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD QUICKEN THE PACE OF RESOLUTION OF SOME OF THESE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS.

SO WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF TIGHTLY, UH, TAKE CARE OF US IF POSSIBLE, IF THESE ARE EASY QUESTIONS TO ASK AND RESOLVE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IS, UM, HAVE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE JOIN US ONE MEETING.

I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.

AND YOU HAVE THE FEATURE GENDER ITEMS. WELL, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF CONTINUE TO ROLL ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.