[Call to Order]
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I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER KOSTA IS NOT HERE.
COMMISSIONER ABOUT ARMITA'S THAT'S ME.
DINKLER PRESENT COMMISSIONER GREENBERG HERE.
KING DEAR COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR.
YOU'RE COMING TO SHERIFF THOMPSON.
I SEE YOU, BUT I DON'T HEAR YOU.
[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
UM, TALK ABOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES ITEM A ONE.ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES COMMISSIONER DINKLER UH, YEAH.
UM, UH, LAST WEEK, UM, ON THE JUNE SEVEN MINUTES ITEMS, SIX WAS POSTPONED TO AUGUST 2ND, 2022.
AND ALSO IF I MIGHT ADD THIS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER KING, UH, AND THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS REOPENED ON THAT CASE AS WELL.
AND, UH, THE ITEM B NINE, IF WE'RE READY TO, FOR OTHER, UH, COMMENTS ON THE, ON THE MINUTES, UH, D ITEM B NINE DOES NOT SHOW THE, DOES NOT LIST THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, UH, WITH THE CONDITIONS, UH, IN THE EXHIBIT.
IT JUST, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT INCLUDES THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, CONDITIONS, UH, IN THE EXHIBIT, IN THIS, IN THE BACKUP FOR THIS CASE.
NOTED ANYTHING ELSE ON THE MINUTES?
[Consent Agenda]
OKAY, THEN I'LL GO AHEAD ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.SO, B ONE, THERE IS A, UH, STAFF IS I'M SORRY, C 8 1 4 2009 0 1 3 NINE.ZERO THREE BULL CREEK PUD AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE.
AND THAT IS A REZONING STAFF IS SEEKING POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JULY 21ST, BUT B2 IS A REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 4 FOR THE ZIMMERMAN.
WE'LL BE PULLING THAT ONE FOR DISCUSSION B3, UH, C 14 20 21 0 0 0 3 SOUTH LAKE LAND, RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE.
AND DID WE WANT TO, WE WERE SEEKING GOOD KOSHER GREENBERG.
THE APPLICANT AGREED, UM, WITH AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.
SO WE'LL BE SEEKING AN INDEFINITE POSTPARTUM POSTPONEMENT FOR B3 BEFORE REZONING C 14 20 22 IS 0 0 5 1 DASH 8 9 1 6 8.
WAIT, THE ADDRESS IS 8, 9, 16 AND A HALF BRODY LANE OR 36 0 1 DAVIS LANE.
UM, THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
B FIVE IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCE SP 20 21 0 3 4 9 D AT 1881 WEST LAKE DRIVE.
AND IT'S ON CONSENT WITH ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS.
B SIX IS A SITE PLAN EXTENSION SP 20 16 0 1 7 0 D X T TWO.
INDIAN ROLLER ON CONSENT AT
CAJ 2008 0 1 6 8 DOT TWO, A VAC AND TRADA FOR PARTIAL PLAT VACATION, LOTS 25 THROUGH 33 BLOCK K CONSENT.
AND THEN FINALLY B NINE C 8 20 22 0 1 0 7 DOT S H GOODNIGHT RANCH TOWN CENTER WEST SECTION ONE, UH, CONSENT WITH CONDITIONS PER EXHIBITS C.
SO TO REVIEW, WE HAVE, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WITH THE CHANGES AS DISCUSSED, BE ONE STAFF POSTPONEMENT UNTIL 7 21, UH, B3.
UM, WHAT'S THE WORD, FIRST MOMENT AND INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT BEFORE CONSENT.
UH, B FIVE CONSENT WITH ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS, B SIX THROUGH B H CONSENT.
AND THEN B NINE CONSENT WITH CONDITIONS AS LISTED IN EXHIBIT C COMMISSIONER KING.
I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM OR VERIFY THAT THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IN THE S IN THE BACKUP IS INCLUDED IN THIS IT,
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THE PROBATED USES THAT ARE LISTED, UH, UH, ALL OF THOSE FOUR ITEMS THERE, WHICH BEFORE AN ITEM BEFORE OR NOT.AND BEFORE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, IT SAYS CEO, BUT THAT'S THE SEAL THAT'S LISTED IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THE PROHIBITED USES THE LIMIT OF MAXIMUM ABILITY COVERAGE TO 50% THE LIMIT, UH, FLOOR AREA RATIO, UH, AND THE LIMIT OF THE 40 FEET HIGH THIRD STREET, FREE STORIES.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THE RECORD.
COMMISSIONER BOON AND COMMISSIONER A COAST TO HAVE JOINED US.
I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS RED.
I, I SECOND THAT FROM COMMISSIONER KIELBASA, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT LOOKS UNANIMOUS.
[B2. Rezoning: C14-2022-0044 - The Zimmerman; District 6]
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEM B TWO, AND WE'LL BE HEARING FROM MR. WAITRESS.I KNOW, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
SHERRY'S HER WITNESS WITH HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS ITEM B TWO, WHICH IS CASEY 14, 20 22 0 0 4 FOR THE ZIMMERMAN.
THIS IS OKAY AT 1, 1 400 ZIMMERMAN LANE.
THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR
THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS A SEVEN PLUS ACRE UNDEVELOPED TRACT OF LAND THAT TAKES ACCESS TO ZIMMERMAN LANE.
THE AREA TO THE NORTH IS UNDEVELOPED TO THE SOUTH ACROSS TIMMERMAN LANE.
THERE WAS AN UNDEVELOPED TRACT OF LAND ZONED
THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ZONE DVR AND TOWNHOUSE CONDOMINIUM RESIDENCES ZONE.
THAT WAS AN SF TWO, AND IT WAS CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO ANNEXATION BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THIS SITE FROM DR TO
THIS TRACT OF LAND FRONTS ON DOES ZIMMERMAN LANE, WHICH IS A 20 FOOT WIDE, 20 TO 25 FOOT, UH, Y COLLECTOR ROADWAY THAT DEAD ENDS INTO A CUL-DE-SAC ORIGINALLY ZIMMERMAN LANE WAS PROJECTED TO CONNECT TO FORSYTHIA DRIVE TO THE EAST.
AS PART OF THE ARTERIAL EIGHT EXTENSION ARTERIAL EIGHT WAS PLANNED TO BE A 90 FOOT ARTERIAL ROADWAY THAT WAS TO CONNECT WITH LOOP 360 TO YO PALM DRIVE.
THE CITY HAS DELETED THE PLANS TO CONSTRUCT ARTERIAL EIGHT PART PARTIALLY DUE TO BCCP LAND ISSUES.
AND BECAUSE OF THE CITY'S PURCHASE OF THIS TENNIS TRACK ZIMMERMAN LANE IS A COUNTRY ROADWAY THAT WAS ANNEXED BY THE CITY IN 1997.
THERE ARE NO PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS PORTION OF ZIMMERMAN LANE, AND THERE WILL NOT BE A TRAFFIC LIGHT CONSTRUCTED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ZIMMERMAN LANE AND FM SIX 20, BECAUSE THERE IS ALREADY A LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF VISTA PARK DRIVE AND FM SIX 20 TO THE NORTH OF THIS, THIS DEPART DRIVE AND ZIMMERMAN LANE WILL NOT BE ALIGNED IN THE FUTURE.
THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS SF SIX ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THE PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED
THERE IS AN, THERE IS SFTP ZONING AND EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LOCATED TO THE SOUTH EAST OF THE SITE WHILE THERE IS UNDEVELOPED
IN ADDITION, THE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX TO THE SOUTH IS THAT HIS OWN MF TWO PUD ALSO TAKES ACCESS TO FM SIX 20 ROOM.
SO SIX ZONING WILL PERMIT THE ADDITION OF MODERATE DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THIS 20 TO 25 FOOT ROADWAY.
AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE SS SIX DISTRICT IS TO BE A TRANSITION FROM SINGLE FAMILY USES TO MULTIFAMILY.
SO THAT IS WHY THE STAFF HAS MADE THAT OUR RECOMMENDATION.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
SO WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT NEXT GOOD EVENING COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, ALICE GLASGOW REPRESENTING THE PROSPECTIVE DEVELOPER JCR, RESIDENTIAL, WHO HAS
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A PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT.SO THE UPS, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
MR. WADE HAS JUST TOLD YOU ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THIS, OF THE SITE.
JUST IMMEDIATELY WEST OF, UH, SIX 20.
SO THE PROPERTIES COUNTRY ZONED D R AND THAT ALLOWS ONE HOME PER 10 ACRES, AND WE HAVE, UH, SEVEN ACRES, 7.6 ACRES.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT THE DIAZ ZONING DOESN'T WORK HERE FOR US.
PART OF THE CODE UNDER
FOR EXAMPLE, AN EFFICIENCY UNIT HAS, UM, UH, MINIMUM SITE AIR REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, ACTS AS A DENSITY CONTROL MEASURES.
SO UNDER THE MP3 ZONING, THE MAXIMUM YIELD ALLOWED IS BETWEEN 184 UNITS.
THAT'S TWO OR MORE BEDROOMS TO SEVEN, TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX UNITS THAT IT WOULD BE IF ALL THE UNITS WERE EFFICIENCIES BECAUSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN THE HILL COUNTRY ROADWAY UNDER THE MODERATE INTENSITY ZONE, WE ARE LIMITED, UH, IN TWO WAYS, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE OPEN SPACE THAT IS 40% OF THE SITE UNDER THE HILL COUNTRY ROADWAY REGULATIONS.
THE HEIGHT IS LIMITED TO 40 FEET, AND, UM, WE HAVE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS BECAUSE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
SO THE EASTERN WEST HAVE ZONING THAT TRIGGERS COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, AND THEN ALSO THE WATERSHED REGULATIONS LIMITS AND PERVIOUS COVER TO 40%.
SO, UM, 60% OF YOUR SITE IS GOING TO BE NATURAL IN ITS NATURAL STATE.
SO THIS IS THE MULTI-FAMILY OF ALMOND REGULATIONS, JUST TO HAVE YOU SEE THEM IN CASE YOU NEED TO REFER BACK TO THEM, BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO THEM.
SHOULD YOU NEED TO REFER TO THEM? THIS IS HOW THE DENSITY IS ACHIEVED UNDER YOUR MF.
SO ZIMMERMAN LANE, UM, S HAS WE FOUND OUT FROM A MEETING WITH AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION STAFF, THE AUSTIN SMP STAFF THAT, UM, ZIMMERMAN LANE IS NOW CLASSIFIED AS A LEVEL TWO UNDER THE SMP AMENDMENTS.
OUR COUNCIL APPROVED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.
SO WHEN WE FILED THE CASE AND WE GOT THE STAFF REPORT, INITIALLY IT HAD A LEVEL ONE WE'RE NOW AT LEVEL TWO, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THOSE CROSS-SECTION REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD A DEVELOPMENT OCCUR.
SO CURRENTLY THE SIDEWALK ENDS RIGHT THERE.
THEY IS A, THEY ARE 86 FEET OF EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.
SO ZIMMERMAN LANE HAS 86 FEET OF EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY 25 FEET PAVEMENT UNDER THE AUSTRIAN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN.
THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE A BAT REQUIRES THIS ROADWAY AT A LEVEL TWO TO HAVE 80 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY.
THAT'S EIGHT, ZERO IT'S AT 86.
AND THE CROSS SECTION THAT OUR STAFF AT ATD CENTERS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ON THIS, THAT DEVELOP ON THE SITE.
THERE HAS TO BE A TWO FOOT SIDEWALK, SIX SETBACK, AND THEN A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK, A TREE FURNITURE ZONE OF EIGHT FEET, A BIKE LANE THAT IS SEVEN FEET AS A FOUR FOOT BUFFER.
AND THEN ON STREET PARKING AND A TRAVEL LANE OF 12 AND A HALF FEET.
SO THIS IS JUST A CROSS SECTION THAT HAS ATD STAFF CENTERS THAT ARE A LEVEL TWO ROADWAY UNDER SMP IS REQUIRED TO HAVE.
SO A ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT UNDER THE SMP WOULD BE REQUIRED ALSO EFFECTIVE TODAY.
THESE, UM, STREET IMPACT FEES WENT INTO EFFECT.
SO WHEN WE GO IN WITH A SITE PLAN AND BUILDING PERMIT AT THE BUILDING PERMIT STAGE, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE YOUR PROJECT, HAS YOU HAVE TO PAY A STREET IMPACT FEE.
AND RIGHT NOW THE FEE FOR MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS $1,600 PER UNIT.
SO WE ESTIMATE THAT AT 150 UNITS, IF WE WERE TO GET THE ZONING THAT THE STREET IMPACT FEE WOULD BE $240,000, WE ARE PROPOSING TO, UH, TO CONNECT.
IF WE GET 150 UNITS THROUGH ZONING THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO RECOMMEND TO US, WE WOULD VOLUNTARILY EXTEND THE SIDEWALK FROM WAY TO DEAD ENDS RIGHT NOW, ALL THE WAY TO SIX 20.
SO THAT'S THE STRETCH OF THE SIDEWALK.
SO WE WOULD TAKE IT FROM WAIT ENDS FROM THE TOWNHOMES OR THE CONDOMINIUMS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY RIGHT AT THE, TOWARDS THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC EXTENDED ALL THE WAY TO SIX 20.
MY CLIENT WAS WILLING TO PAY FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
WHEN WE MET WITH ATD STAFF, THEY TOLD US THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO
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PROVIDE SIDEWALKS AND OUR STREET IMPACT FEE WOULD NOT GO TOWARDS WHAT IS REQUIRED OF YOU.HOWEVER, ANYTHING THAT IS OFFSITE, THEY COULD GIVE US CREDIT TOWARDS.
WE CONSTRUCT THE IMPROVEMENTS AND WE GET CREDIT THAT IS TAPPED OUT OF THE STREET IMPACT FEE.
SO CURRENTLY YOU CAN SEE THESE CURB AND GUTTER ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
THIS IS ZIMMERMAN LANE COMING JUST WEST OF, UH, SIX 20, THE, UH, STORAGE UNITS.
YOU SEE THE CARBON GUTTER, UH, ENDS RIGHT THERE.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND, OR WE WOULD OFFER TO EXTEND THAT CURB AND GUTTER FROM THE STORAGE UNITS ALL THE WAY TO OUR PROPERTY.
AND, UM, AND THEN HAVE, UH, SO IT'LL HAVE A 12 FOOT TRAVEL LANE AND THAT SIX FOOT BIKE LANE.
AND THAT WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RUDY'S BARBECUE PROJECT.
SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, UH, THAT CURB AND GUTTER WOULD GO FROM IT'S WHERE THE RED LINES STARTS.
THAT'S WHAT CURRENTLY STOPS AND WILL CONTINUE TO OUR PROPERTY LINE.
I THINK THERE'S ONE MORE SLIDE.
IF NOT, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE LAST ONE, BUT, UH, THAT, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD OFFER TO DO TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
IF WE GET 150 UNITS, UM, FROM, FOR THIS PROJECT.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
NOW, WE'LL HEAR FROM MR. MATT JOHNSON.
MR. JOHNSON YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
I KNOW THAT IN PERSON HANDOUT WOULD BE ON A FUCKING, A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
I'M A RESIDENT OF RYAN'S WAY AND THE WOODS AT FOUR POINTS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS DIRECTLY DOWN THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT TRACK, UH, AS ILLUSTRATED HERE IN THIS IMAGE, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF AND ALONGSIDE A NUMBER OF MY NEIGHBORS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHO OPPOSE THE REZONE, UH, DUE TO THE GRAVE TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST AND WERE ONLY BE EXACERBATED WITH THE REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE APPLICANT'S INTENDED 150 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT FOR THE NEXT FEW MINUTES.
NUMBER ONE, JUST BRIEFLY ILLUSTRATE THE EXISTING, DANGEROUS TRAFFIC SITUATION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
NUMBER TWO, EXPLAIN WHY WE THEREFORE OPPOSE THIS REZONE.
AND NUMBER THREE, CLEARLY COMMUNICATE OUR ASK AS A NEIGHBORHOOD TO THIS COMMITTEE TO KEEP CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS SAFE IN THE IMAGE SHOWN THE BLUE IS OUR 30 HOME NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE RED IS THE SUBJECT TRACKED BOTH LIE ON ZIMMERMAN LANE, A 20 FOOT WIDE UNCURBED UNSTRAPPED AND GUTTERED, EXCEPT FOR THE FINAL PIECE, SMALL ROAD OFF OF HIGHWAY SIX 20 IN NORTHWEST AUSTIN AT THE INTERSECTION OF ZIMMERMAN AND SIX 20, THE GREEN CIRCLE.
THERE, THERE EXISTS ONLY A STOP SIGN AT WHAT HAS TURNED OUT TO BE A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION FOR BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT TURNS DUE TO THE HIGH SPEEDS OF TRAFFIC ON SIX 20 AND THE NEARBY VISTA PARK DRIVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN ORANGE.
THIS INTERSECTION IS OFTEN TOO CONGESTED AND TOO DANGEROUS TO MAKE LEFT OR RIGHT TURNS ONTO SIX 20.
THIS OCCURS AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NOT JUST AT RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC.
THEREFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OFTEN FORCED TO CUT THROUGH THE RUDY'S BARBECUE AND GAS STATION PARKING LOT TO MAKE EITHER LEFT OR RIGHT TURNS IN ORDER TO GET AWAY FROM THE CONGESTION OF THAT INTERSECTION, AS EVIDENCED BY THE YELLOW PATTERN IN THE IMAGE, ALTHOUGH THIS DOES NOT FIX THE ISSUE OF THE SPEED OF ONCOMING CARS, IT AT LEAST ALLEVIATES THE MASSIVE CONGESTION ISSUE IN DIRT AT ZIMMERMAN AND SIX 20.
UNFORTUNATELY THESE TURNS BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT ARE STILL VERY, VERY UNSAFE, BUT AS OFTENTIMES THE ONLY REASONABLE SOLUTION TO GET INTO CENTRAL AUSTIN, OTHER OPTIONS INCLUDE TURNING RIGHT DRIVING PAST VISTA PARK AND FLIPPING A U-TURN THROUGH A HOME DEPOT PARKING LOT, OR ELSE FLIPPING AN ILLEGAL U-TURN ON SIX 20 ITSELF, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY MANY DRIVERS DO ANYWAYS.
HAVING ONLY LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A YEAR, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT IN THE TURN LANE IN THIS AREA, ALONG SIX 20, THE FIREMAN WHO LIVES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSFERRED STATIONS TO AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ONE DAY ENCOUNTERING OUR NEIGHBORS IN A FATAL ACCIDENT DUE TO HOW UNSAFE THE AREA IS.
TURNS THAT ARE MADE ARE OFTEN HURRIED, VERY UNSAFE AND POSE A THREAT TO ALL DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS.
MANY FAMILIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NEVER EVEN CONSIDER LEFT TURNS DUE TO HAVING CHILDREN IN THE CAR.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE HAD A VERY DANGEROUS ISSUE LONG BEFORE THIS TRACT HAS BEEN UP FOR REZONE BECAUSE ANYTHING CLOSE TO 150 UNITS WOULD ADD OVER A THOUSAND DAILY CAR TRIPS TO THIS DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR A TIA DETERMINATION WORKSHEETS SUBMITTED BY THE DEVELOPER PAGE.
WE, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ARE FORCED TO OPPOSE THIS REASON
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ADDING A THOUSAND PLUS DAILY TRIPS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY EXACERBATE THE ISSUE, MAKING IT INCREDIBLY UNSAFE FOR BOTH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF ANY DEVELOPMENT ARE ASKED.THEREFORE, AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN RESPONSE TO THE SITUATION IS THREEFOLD AS DESCRIBED ON PAGE THREE OF YOUR HANDOUT.
NUMBER ONE IS TO PLEASE OPPOSE THIS AND ALL REZONES ALONG ZIMMERMAN LANE UNTIL THE SOLUTION CAN BE CREATED FOR THE ZIMMERMAN SIX 20 INTERSECTION TO PROTECT BOTH CURRENT AND FUTURE FAMILIES, KIDS, MOMS, AND DADS, AND NEIGHBORS WHO DRIVE ON THIS STREET EVERY SINGLE DAY, THIS LIKELY INVOLVES CREATING A NEW SIGNAL OR COORDINATING THE SIGNAL AT THE EXISTING VISTA PARK DRIVE INTERSECTION AMONG OTHER SOLUTIONS.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH VARIOUS CITY STAFF, PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, AND THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES.
AND JUST NEED MORE TIME TO FIND A SOLUTION BEFORE A REZONE LIKE THIS IS CONSIDERED.
AND PAST NUMBER TWO, WE ASK THAT YOU REQUIRE A FORMAL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FROM EVERY REZONE AND DEVELOPMENT APPLICANT ON ZIMMERMAN LANE NOW, AND IN THE FUTURE, THIS TIA WOULD GIVE ADEQUATE ATTENTION TO AND HELP PROVIDE SOLUTIONS FOR ZIMMERMAN LANE AND THIS BAD INTERSECTION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS AN ARBITRARY 2000 TRIP COUNT THRESHOLD TO CONDUCT A TIA.
THE DEVELOPERS PROJECT WOULD PRODUCE JUST OVER A THOUSAND TRIPS, THEREFORE NOT MEETING THIS THRESHOLD AND THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PRODUCE A FORMAL STUDY SINCE ZIMMERMAN LANE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN PHASES OF PROJECTS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AT VACANT TRACKS REMAINING.
THERE, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN, NONE OF THESE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS BY THEMSELVES HAVE MET THE THRESHOLD, EVEN THOUGH THE AG GRID TRAFFIC GENERATION ACROSS ALL PROJECTS WOULD CLEARLY WARRANT A STUDY.
AND FINALLY, NUMBER THREE, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD IMPOSE A UNIT COUNT ON ANY FUTURE REZONES FOLLOWING THE PRECEDENT OF THE PREVIOUS TWO REZONES, UH, KC 14, 2007 0 0 0 9 WAS A REZONE FROM SF TWO TO SF SIX ON ZIMMERMAN LANE THAT INCLUDED A MAX OF NINE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT 3.6 UNITS PER ACRE ON THAT TWO AND A HALF ACRE TRACT.
THAT SAME DENSITY FOR THIS TRACK WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 28 UNITS, FAR LOWER THAN THE DEVELOPERS INTENDED 150 UNITS, KC 14 0 4 0 0 9 9.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS A REZONE FROM DR TO SF SIX THAT INCLUDED A MAX OF 25 UNITS, 30% IMPERVIOUS COVER ON 5.9 ACRES EQUIVALENT 4.2 UNITS PER ACRE.
DENSITY TO THE SUBJECT TRACK WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 32 UNITS AGAIN, FAR LOWER THAN THE DEVELOPERS, 150 UNIT PROPOSAL.
IN SUMMARY, WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE OPPOSE THIS REZONE TO GIVE US TIME, TO FIND A SAFE TRAFFIC SOLUTION TO PROTECT CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF ZIMMERMAN LANE.
THANK YOU TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM JORDAN MURRAY, MR. MURRAY, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UH, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I AM A RESIDENT WITHIN THE WOODS AT FOUR POINTS ON RYAN'S WAY, AND I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA, UH, AS CLEARLY LAID OUT BY MY NEIGHBOR, MATT, I HOPE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CLEARLY CONVEY THE CONCERN AROUND THIS PROJECT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU, I AM A MILITARY VETERAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING LIVED IN 16 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS, THIS IS THE LONGEST I'VE EVER LIVED IN ONE LOCATION.
I MEAN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
AND I AM TO BE THAT MY SAME RESIDENCE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF BEING A FATHER WITH A FOUR AND SIX YEAR OLD AND HAVING OVER 20 CHILDREN IN THAT COMMUNITY, I HAVE NOW HAD THE FACE, THIS REALLY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION OR INGRESS AND EGRESS OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW.
AND EACH TIME WE GO IN AND OUT, THERE'S ALWAYS A CONCERN OF THE SAFETY OF NOT ONLY OURSELVES, BUT ALSO THE CHILDREN THAT WE ARE CARRYING IN OUR VEHICLES AS WELL.
ALTHOUGH WE UNDERSTAND THAT DEVELOPMENT IS NECESSARY.
YEAH, I THINK THROWAWAYS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING OURS BACK IN 2004 WHEN IT WAS REZONED SF SIX, AS WELL AS THE OTHER, THAT WAS REZONED TO SF SIX, UH, CEO IN 2007 34 OF THE 37 HOMES THAT HAVE DIRECT INGRESS AND EGRESS OF ZIMMERMAN LANE OR A DIRECT RESULT OF REZONING TO SF SIX CEO WITH THE LIMITATION OF UNITS BEING THE RESPECT OF 25 AND NINE.
SO I KINDLY ASK THAT YOU ALL TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION AS THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THAT MOVING FORWARD, IF ANY REDEVELOPMENT IS CONSIDERED, BUT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THE HAZARDS THAT ARE AT BAY.
THE FINAL THING I WILL POINT OUT IS THERE HAS BEEN ATTEMPTS FOR MULTIFAMILY REZONING, A RELIANT ON INGRESS AND EGRESS OF ZIMMERMAN LANE ONLY, UH, THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN 2014 AND IT
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WAS DENIED.AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN OBJECTION OF THE CURRENT LANDOWNER REQUESTING MULTIFAMILY ON HIS PROPERTY NOW.
SO HERE IT IS, NOTHING HAS CHANGED TO ZIMMERMAN, UH, IN THE LAST DECADE OR SINCE THIS OBJECTION TO MULTIFAMILY WAS MADE BY THIS CURRENT LANDOWNER, YET HE IS REQUESTING MULTIFAMILY FOR HIS OWN PURPOSE.
SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE I DO FIND THAT SIGNIFICANT AS THERE HAS BEEN NO, UH, CHANGES TO ZIMMERMAN LANE SINCE THEN, OTHER THAN THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKING IT MORE AND MORE DANGEROUS AS CONTINUOUS DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF ZIMMERMAN LANE HAPPENS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND I'LL STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO PASS THIS AROUND, UH, IF IT WOULD HELP, UH, Y'ALL LET ME KNOW.
WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MS. HELEN MCHANEY MS. MCKINNEY YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, AS STATED ELLEN MCKINNEY, I DO LIVE IN THE WOODS AT FOUR POINTS, THE ZIMMERMAN DEVELOPMENT, AND I AM ON THE HOA AS WELL.
UM, MY HUSBAND, WHO IS A FIREFIGHTER I'M IN AUSTIN COULD NOT BE HERE AS HE IS ON DUTY.
UM, BUT AS MATT SAID THAT HE PREVIOUSLY WORKED IN OUR AREA, SO HE WOULD WORK, UM, THE INTERSECTION OF ZIMMERMAN AND SIX 20.
AND HE HAS PERSONALLY SEEN MORE THAN 25 ACCIDENTS RIGHT THERE IN THAT STRETCH OF ROAD, UM, AND DID SWITCH STATIONS SO THAT HE DID NOT HAVE TO ARRIVE ON SCENE, UM, TO SEE PEOPLE THAT HE KNEW.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE OURSELVES BEEN IN AN ACCIDENT ATTEMPTING TO TURN LEFT OUT OF ZIMMERMAN.
UM, THANKFULLY WE HAVE A VERY LARGE CAR, SO WE WERE OKAY, BUT A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THIS SITUATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF PEOPLE'S HEARTS, THEY ARE TRYING TO WAVE YOU ON.
THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY, OH, COME ON.
BUT PEOPLE TRAVELING IN THE CHICKEN LANE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO CALL THAT THE MIDDLE LANE OF THE ROAD.
UM, THEY TRAVEL IN THAT LANE FOR WAY TOO LONG AND YOU CAN'T SEE THEM, UM, WHEN THERE IS OTHER CARS IN THE WAY.
SO THAT ALSO, UM, POSES A DANGER TO THE RESIDENTS, UH, THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL UNITS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE THE 20, SO, UH, SUGGESTED, OR THE 150 PLUS SUGGESTED BY THE DEVELOPER WILL RAISE, UH, THE NUMBER OF CARS ON THAT STREET.
WE'RE ASKING TO MINIMIZE THAT TO FSX CEO OR
UM, AND IF THERE IS QUESTIONS ABOUT FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, BYLAWS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, LET ME KNOW.
AND ON THE TELECONFERENCE, WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MS. XANDRA LOPEZ, MR. LOPEZ, IF YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX AND THEN PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.
MR. LOPEZ, IF YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX ON YOUR PHONE AND THEN PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.
MY NAME IS ANDREW LOPEZ AND I'M A RESIDENT OF 1, 1, 1, 2, 1 ZIMMERMAN LANE UNIT, A JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT TRACK.
I'M SPEAKING ALONGSIDE MY NEIGHBORS ON ZIMMERMAN LANE AND THE WOODS AT FOUR POINTS TO OPPOSE REZONE.
I'M OPPOSING IT DUE TO THE ALREADY DANGEROUS TRAFFIC INTERSECTION SITUATIONS AT ZIMMERMAN AT SIX 20.
AND IT WAS WORSE THAN WITH ANY MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AT 1, 1, 4 HUNDREDS AND RAMIN LANE.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC ALONG THE NARROW STREET, WHERE MANY FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS CURRENTLY WALK DAILY WITHOUT THE COMPLETION OF AN ADEQUATE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STUDY AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS BEING CONSTRUCTED.
UM, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN PLACE TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT SITUATION.
UM, I'M A LIBRARIAN AT VANDERGRIFT HIGH SCHOOL IN ORDER TO GET TO WORK.
I'M A TAKE A LEFT AT ZIMMERMAN.
THE PROBLEM IS THE SAME LANE THAT I USED TO TAKE A LEFT.
ALSO HAS A LIGHT FOR VISTA PARK WHERE OTHERS ARE TAKING A LEFT
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TO, AS SOMEONE SAID, I SAVED THE CHICK-FILET LANE AND THE OTHER BUSINESSES ACROSS ZIMMERMAN BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE, I HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH THE RUDY'S PARKING LOT AND TAKE THE LEFT OUT OF RUDY'S CAUSE IT'S LIKELY SAFER, BUT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION IS DANGEROUS.I WALK OR RUN ZIMMERMAN DAILY.
I SEE CARS USING THE TURNING LANE TO MAKE ILLEGAL TURNS, TO ACCESS, ACCESS TO BUSINESSES.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MERMEN, UM, ON A RUN, I SAW THE AFTERMATH OF THE DANGEROUS LEFT-HAND TURN ON SIX 20 THAT RESULTED IN A FATALITY, ADDING MORE UNITS WITHOUT ADEQUATE ANALYSIS IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
UM, THE QUESTION IS NOT IF, BUT WHEN, IF THEY TELL IT WILL OCCUR, I WORRY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF MY NEIGHBORS AND MY OWN STUDENTS WHO I KNOW FREQUENT THE BUSINESSES ACROSS FROM ZIMMERMAN.
WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. LOGAN LOWERY.
UH, MY NAME IS LOGAN LOWERY AND I'M ACTUALLY THE NEWEST MEMBER TO ZIMMERMAN LANE.
THESE FINE FOLKS WERE KIND ENOUGH TO WELCOME ME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK IN, UH, FEBRUARY, MARCH TIMEFRAME.
AND SO I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE, UH, STATISTICS AROUND THE ZONING THAT, THAT MATT SHARED.
I'M SURE HE HE'S GOT HIS, UH, HIS, UH, ZONING THINGS, YOU KNOW, BUTTONED UP, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A FEW QUICK PERSONAL STORIES ABOUT MY TWO OR THREE MONTHS, UM, ON ZIMMERMAN LANE.
SO YOU SAW THE TRAFFIC, UM, PICTURE THAT WAS PUT UP ABOUT TURNING INTO RUDY'S.
I CAN TELL YOU I'VE ONLY TURNED LEFT OUT OF ZIMMERMAN LANE, PROBABLY ONE TO TWO TIMES IN LIVING THERE IN THREE MONTHS, I DRIVE A FORD F TWO 50, SO PRETTY BIG TRUCK.
I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TURNING OUT OF ZIMMERMAN LANE AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
I ALWAYS GO THROUGH THE RUDY'S.
UM, EVEN IF YOU GO THROUGH RUDY'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THERE IS A INTERSECTION BETWEEN BOTH SIDES OF TRAFFIC.
THERE'S OFTEN THREE TO FIVE CARS TRYING TO TURN LEFT INTO RUDY'S THAT PREVENT YOU FROM ACTUALLY SEEING THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE RIGHT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN OUT TO THE LEFT.
SO VERY OFTEN I HAVE TO BASICALLY DRIVE OUT BLINDLY INTO THAT MID SECTION AND JUST SAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A CAR IS COMING, I WILL JUST BASICALLY HAVE THE BIGGER CAR.
I'LL JUST RIDE THE MEDIAN DOWN SIX 20 UNTIL I CAN FIND A TERM TIME TO MERGE ON.
AND THAT'S OFTENTIMES A GOOD 2, 3, 400 FEET THAT I'LL HAVE TO THE MEDIAN, UH, OR NOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGHWAY TO ACTUALLY COME OUT.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT TURNING LEFT OUT OF ZIMMERMAN A LOT, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH ABOUT TALK ABOUT TURNING RIGHT ONTO ZIMMERMAN.
SO AS YOU GUYS KNOW, SIX 20 IS A VERY HIGHLY TRAFFICKED STREET.
UM, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOULDER WHERE HE CAN GET OFF AND TURN, BUT OFTENTIMES THE TRAFFIC IS BREATHING DOWN OUR NECKS SO FAST THAT YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY TURN, TURN ONTO ZIMMERMAN LANE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A HARD L RIGHT TURN.
AND THE TRAFFIC'S COMING BEHIND YOU SO FAST THAT YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY GET IT DONE.
SO I HAVE TO DRIVE PAST SUMMER, MIDDLE LANE, GO DOWN, RUN A U-TURN IN THE HOME DEPOT PARKING LOT, WHICH IS NOT, UH, IDEAL OF COURSE.
AND THEN THE LAST PERSONAL STORY I'LL SHARE WITH YOU AS MY WIFE IS SITTING OVER HERE, WE'RE EXPECTING OUR FIRST CHILD IN AUGUST.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS FIRST-TIME PARENTS.
OKAY, HOW DO WE DO THIS? HOW DO WE DO THAT? UM, WE ACTUALLY JUST RECENTLY SET KIND OF LIKE AN INTERNAL FAMILY RULE THAT MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, SHE DRIVES A SMALL CAR.
WE SAID SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO DRIVE WITH OUR CHILD OUT OF ZIMMERMAN LANE AND TURN LEFT JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A NEWBORN BABY IN A SMALL CAR TURNING OUT, BECAUSE I THINK AS A FEW OF MY, UH, FELLOW NEIGHBORS SUGGESTED, UM, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WHEN IT'S OR IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S IT'S WHEN, AND YOU KNOW, IF I'M GOING TO TAKE MY CHANCES, I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE IN A SMALL CAR.
I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WEIGHT THAT CARRIES HERE, BUT THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE.
I BELIEVE MS. GLASGOW IS UP FOR REBUTTAL.
UM, CAN WE GO TO THE VERY LAST SLIDE, PLEASE? THANK YOU.
WELL, COMMISSIONERS, UM, YOU HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHEN WE HAD A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH THEM, UH, S SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, WE HEARD THE SAME CONCERNS.
AND, AND WHEN WE MET WITH A TRANSPORTATION STAFF, THIS TRANSPORTATION STAFF LOOK AT THIS CASE AS AN OPPORTUNITY, GIVEN THAT AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN NOW HAS IT AT LEVEL TWO, THAT THERE WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS CALLED FALL.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES
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THAT, THAT AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION STAFF LOOKED AT AT A SIX 20 SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THE PROBLEMS AREN'T SIX 20, WHERE THE MOST TRAFFIC IS.AND, UH, ONE OF THE OPTIONS WOULD LOOK AT ANY IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE THAT COULD ALLOW AND WORKING WITH TXDOT BECAUSE TXDOT CONTROLLED SIX 20, NOT THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
SO IN COORDINATION WITH TXDOT, LOOK AT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION OF ZIMMERMAN LANE AND SIX 20, EITHER HAVING FROM OUR SIDE, ONE OF THE OPTIONS, MAKING A RIGHT, RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT ONLY AT ZIMMERMAN LANE, AND ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT CAN BE DONE AS ELAINE ON OUR SIDE, THE NORTH SIDE OF ZIMMERMAN, SINCE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT SIDE AND GIVEN THAT THERE IS 86 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY, UH, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO PARTNER WITH, WITH THE CITY TXDOT AND, UM, TO HELP ALLEVIATE OR IMPROVE, UH, THE PROBLEMS BEING EXPERIENCED THERE, THE EXPLORATION OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, OBVIOUSLY WITH A CAR AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN AND NOT ZONING, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN STILL HAVE A DIALOGUE.
NOW IT'S A GOOD TIME TO HAVE THIS DIALOGUE SO WE CAN EXPLORE ALL THOSE, UM, OPTIONS.
AND, UM, SO WE, AS MY, MY CLIENT, I'M REPRESENTING THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER, NOT THE SELLER OF THE PROPERTY, SO I CAN NOT SPEAK TO WHAT THE PREVIOUS, UH, CURRENT OWNER HAS.
WE MIGHT, I'M JUST REPRESENTING THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER AND WHO'S A DEVELOPER MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPER, GCR, RESIDENTIAL, AND, UH, WE OBVIOUSLY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH STAFF, ATD STAFF, AND OF COURSE DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO, UH, TO, UM, UH, HELP IN THIS AREA.
CAN YOU GO TO THE ONE SLIDE BACK, PLEASE JUST WANT TO SHOW THE ONE THAT HAS THE SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY NEXT, THE PREVIOUS ONE MORE BACK.
SO REALLY THE ZIMMERMAN LANE DEAD ENDS.
IT DOES NOT GO ANYWHERE, WESTWARD EASTWARDS.
SO IT'S REALLY THE FOLKS WHO, UH, WHO LIVE ON ZIMMERMAN, LAND, OTHER FOLKS TRAVELING HERE AND, OR THEIR FRIENDS OR VISITORS.
SO IT'S INCUMBENT UPON, I GUESS, US AS A DEVELOPER HERE TO, TO DO WHAT WE CAN.
AND OF COURSE SOME OF THE EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE BORN BY MY CLIENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE STREET IMPACT FEES ARE GOING TO, UM, UH, UH, RESULT IN.
SO WE'RE WILLING TO HELP IN ANY WAY WE CAN.
AND, UM, AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD GO AGAIN, WE WOULD CONSTRUCT THE SIDEWALKS, EXTEND THE ENTIRE SIDEWALK FROM WHERE IT TERMINATES FROM THE RESIDENTIALS, UH, CONDOS ON ZIMMERMAN LANE, ALL THE WAY TO SIX 20.
AND WE WOULD IMPROVE THE, UM, EXTENT THE, UH, CURB AND, UM, UH, CARBON GUTTER AND IMPROVE IN ANY OTHER LANE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IN CONJUNCTION WITH CONSULTATION, WITH ATD TO HELP ALLEVIATE THAT, UH, RIGHT OUT OR LEFT OUT AT ZIMMERMAN LANE, WORKING WITH TAX DOT.
THANK YOU, MS. GLASGOW, DO WE HAVE ANY, I CAN, I CAN START, BUT, UM, YES.
UH, COMMISSIONER KING CHAIR, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR DID WE WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN? WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN CLOSE IT.
IS THERE A MOTION COMMISSIONER SMITH MAKES A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KOSTA? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING TWO LOOKS UNANIMOUS.
I MEAN, I'LL KIND OF GET STARTED.
YOU'VE GOT THE PROBLEM I SEE IS YOU'VE GOT AN EXISTING PROBLEM ZIMMERMAN LANG TODAY, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET IMPROVED BY THE CITY.
IT'S NOT ON ANYBODY'S SCOPE TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO GET IMPROVED AS IF WE'D PUT DEVELOPMENT ON THERE AND THAT DEVELOPMENT FUNDS THE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, I KNOW IT SOUNDS STRANGE, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT ROAD'S GOING TO GET IMPROVED AND FIXED IT.
IT MAY NOT GET FIXED BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH CROSSING, A SIX 20, ANYTIME YOU'RE CROSSING TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC TO GET TO A CENTER TURN LANE, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.
UM, IT MAY COME OUT TO BE A RIGHT TURN, RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY ON TIMMERMAN, BUT THE ONLY WAY ANYTHING IS GOING TO GET DONE IS IF THAT TRACT OF LAND IS A LAND TO DEVELOP ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE TRACKS ALONG THE RIVER.
BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT PROMOTING OR MAKING A MOTION OR ANYTHING AT THIS POINT, BUT IT'S A DIFFICULT CASE.
AND I GUESS IT'S ONE OF THOSE ONES WHERE THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING PROBLEMS IS TO ALLOW SOME DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR ON THAT TRACK.
CAN YOU CHECK A BOSS? WELL, I, I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT THINKING.
I FEEL LIKE THAT THE ONLY LEVERAGE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS IS, UH, EXCUSE ME, I'VE GOT, GOT THE WORST COUGH, UM, IS TO RAISE THESE CONCERNS RIGHT NOW AND TO GET GUARANTEES.
AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS JUST
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AN UNTENABLE SITUATION.UM, I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING AROUND THE CIRCLE AND JUST PROVIDE MY COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, AS THE SPEAKERS ARE SPEAKING, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAPS AND I DID LOOK AT THE EXISTING DENSITIES AND THE DENSITIES AROUND THERE AND WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS ASKING FOR AND KIND OF PLAYED AROUND WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
AND WHAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT 40%, UH, ALLOTMENT OF OPEN SPACE IS PRETTY, UH, THAT'S A LOT OF SPACE THAT THEY'RE REQUIRING GIVEN, UM, THE CORRIDOR, THE HILL COUNTRY CORRIDOR, UH, BUT ON THE VISION ZERO DASHBOARD, THERE WAS A FATAL ACCIDENT, UH, CRASH COMING OUT OF THE APARTMENTS ELWOOD AT SIX 20 ON AUGUST 26TH, 2020.
AND THERE WAS A SEVERE CRASH BETWEEN ZIMMERMAN AND THE RUDY'S ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, 20, 20, SO SERIOUS INJURY RIGHT THERE.
UM, AND AGAIN, I WILL ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER SMITH SAID, IT'S TEXTILE.
IT'S NOT, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT, WE CAN, UH, SAY THAT, UH, WE WANT INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.
AND, UH, DIESEL LANE MAKES SENSE TO ME.
AND ANOTHER SIGNAL AT ZIMMERMAN MAKES SENSE AND OR RESTRICTING RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT, MAKES THAT ALL THOSE THINGS MAKE SENSE, BUT IT'S NOT OUR RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S FEELS A LITTLE, IT'S VERY CHALLENGING.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT THERE WAS NOTHING HERE.
SO THE FACT THAT THE NEW GUYS ARE SAYING, WE WANT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T RESTRICT MORE PEOPLE COMING IN.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGING ARGUMENT AS WELL, TO COME FROM AT ONE POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT TYPE OF ZONING OR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WASN'T ALLOWED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, CONTINUE WITH WHAT'S THERE TODAY AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A PRECEDENT SET.
SO I, I, UH, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE.
WHO'S NEXT COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.
COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE CLOSE TO IS NEXT, BUT THEN ALASKA.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS.
SO IT WAS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE AND THEREFORE IT CAN CONTINUE AS A LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, OUR BACKUP SAYS THE STAFF RECOMMENDS SF SIX ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION BECAUSE THE PROPOSED SF SIX ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED SF SIX C O ZONING ALONG ZIMMERMAN LANE TO THE EAST AND THE ONE, OH, I THINK IT'S 1, 1, 1, 2, 1 ZIMMERMAN LANE, WHICH I THINK IS WHERE THESE PEOPLE MAYBE LIVE, UM, HAS A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR 3.7 UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, SO WHEN YOU SAY CONSISTENT, I WONDER WHY YOU'RE NOT, OR STAFF IS A RECOMMENDING, UH, A SIMILAR CEO, WHICH WOULD RESULT AS POINTED OUT BY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IN 28 UNITS.
SO AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A CASE MANAGER HERE FOR OVER 21 YEARS, AND I'VE COVERED THIS AREA DURING THAT WHOLE TIME.
UM, WE DID NOT, AS STAFF RECOMMEND SIX ZONING FOR THE OTHER PROPERTIES ON ZIMMERMAN LANE, WE RECOMMENDED
SO WE KNEW THAT WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH AN INFERIOR ROADWAY THAT HAD NO PLANS TO BE IMPROVED.
THE REASON THERE'S 80 FEET AND RIGHT AWAY THERE, 86 FEET AND RIGHT AWAY WAS BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF ARTERIAL EIGHT, THE BCC PLAN Z BCCP LAND BASICALLY CHANGED THIS PLANT.
NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER IN THIS AREA, BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN ENDANGERED SALAMANDER IN THE WALNUT CREEK TRIBUTARY AT THE END OF ZIMMERMAN LIGHT THAT WE DEALING WITH.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CHANGE THE CAPACITY OF WHAT THIS ROADWAY CAN HANDLE AND WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE.
SO WE WERE RELUCTANT TO RECOMMEND SF SIX ON THIS TRACT ACTUALLY.
UM, BUT WE, THAT, BECAUSE IT DOES PROVIDE A TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY USES TO SINGLE FAMILY.
AND SO WE DID NOT PUT A UNIT LIMIT ON IT BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THIS PROPERTY HAS SIGNIFICANT ISSUES.
HILL, COUNTRY ROADWAY, SETBACK EFFECTS.
THIS PROPERTY COMPATIBILITY ALSO AFFECTS THIS PROPERTY ON THE EASTERN LINE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE CFS ON THIS PROPERTY AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS AREA
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UP AND DOWN SIX 20 THERE'S MANY CES THROUGHOUT THIS AREA.SO WE FELT LIKE THERE WERE ALREADY A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES WITH JUST SF SIX ZONING, WHICH ACTUALLY IS THE INTENT OF SF ZONING TO CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT, TO DEAL WITH THESE TYPE OF ISSUES.
SO THERE'S, THAT'S MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS WE RECOMMENDED STRAIGHT SF SIX BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE LIMITED BECAUSE OF OTHER CONDITIONS.
SO TO WHAT WOULD THE, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THEY COULD FIT ON THERE BECAUSE I CAN'T DO THE CALCULATIONS.
AS YOU KNOW, UNDER SF SIX, THERE IS NO UNIT MAX.
THERE IS NO LIMIT EXACTLY, BUT THEY, WITH ALL OF THESE OTHER FACTORS, INFERIOR ROADWAY, ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, HILL, COUNTRY, ROADWAY, SETBACK, COMPATIBILITY ISSUES.
IT WAS ALREADY GOING TO BE LIMITED AS TO WHAT THEY CAN FIT ON THERE.
ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD PROPOSE TO DEVELOP IF THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DO MULTIFAMILY, IF THEY HAD
YOU HAVE CONDOMS WHICH HAVE ITS OWN CATEGORY OF RESTRICTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD PLAN TO LAY OUT THE SITE, HOW MANY UNITS THEY COULD ACTUALLY FIT, BUT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE LESS THAN 28, OR I DO NOT KNOW.
I DID NOT RUN A CALCULATION AND TRY TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS IN PLAY.
WE'LL FINISH THE DYESS AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO TV LAND.
SO COMMISSIONER DINKLER AND THEN WE'LL GO TO YOU GUYS.
I'M ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO JUST MAKE A COMMENT.
I, I KNOW THE APPLICANT WHEN I ASKED HER HOW MANY UNITS UNDER SF SIX, IF THIS HELPS THOUGHT IT COULD BE UP TO 94 UNITS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT TOOK INTO ACCOUNT ANY OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATED SHERRY BRINGING UP THE SENSITIVITY OF THIS TRACT AS COMMISSIONER THOMPSON POINTED OUT.
WHEN WE EVALUATE SOMETHING FOR MAGINE AUSTIN, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A CATEGORY ON THERE THAT SAYS ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS.
AND THIS IS A VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE SITE.
UM, IT'S DRINKING WATER SUPPLY.
IT'S, I'M NOT SURPRISED OR SALAMANDER GIVEN THE AREAS RIDDLED WITH CARS.
UM, AND I'VE JUST HEARING THAT IT'S GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER.
UM, THIS IS AN INCREASE FROM WHAT HAS SF SIX IS AN INCREASE FROM WHAT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, UH, APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
SO I, I ABSOLUTELY, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MF THREE OR EVEN MF TWO.
I AM LOOKING AT SF SIX AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF UNIT CAP IT SHOULD HAVE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS FOR THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
NO, THEY ARE NOT ALL ISSUES THAT TXDOT DEALS WITH.
THERE'S NO TRANSIT THERE, THERE'S NO CONNECTIVITY NOR WILL THERE BE.
AND I THINK IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY AT THAT ROAD WILL GET FIXED OR EVEN GET A LIGHT.
SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S RECOMMENDATION, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE GRACIOUSLY TRYING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS.
I WILL SAY THAT I PULLED UP MY HANDY DANDY TECHSTOP PROJECT TRACKER, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING OVER $900,000 OF TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE AREA.
SO DOES IT INCLUDE SOMETHING THIS CLOSE TO THIS? YES, NO.
IT'S, UH, BETWEEN THE FOUR POINTS BETWEEN FOUR POINTS IN BOLDEN.
BUT WHO KNOWS WHEN THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? OKAY.
SO, AND AS A CAVEAT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I LIVED ON A, UH, AREA OFF OF HIGHLAND HILLS OFF OF 22, 22.
AND WE GOT OUR LIGHT WHEN WE HAD A FATALITY.
AND, BUT I NEVER USED THAT EXIT BECAUSE THE LEFT TURNS WERE A HAIL MARY PASS.
LET'S GO TO WHO'S ON THE SCREEN THAT COMMISSIONER KOSTA.
SIMILAR TO WHAT COMMISSIONER DECKLER WAS ASKING OR WHAT COMMISSIONER GREENBERG WAS POINTING OUT FOR SF SIX.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT COULD ULTIMATELY GO IF THAT WAS WHAT WE RECOMMENDED.
AND SO IF I'M, AM I RIGHT IN SAYING THAT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR SFX IS AROUND 5,700 SQUARE FEET? YES.
BUT THERE IS WELL COMMISSIONER, UH, MR. WAITRESS IS COMING UP.
HOWEVER, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU BUILD THERE, BECAUSE IF YOU DO CONDO UNITS, THE MINIMUM
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IS 3,500.IF YOU DO TOWNHOME UNITS, I THINK IT'S 3,600.
IT'S IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT RESIDENTIAL WISE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND I GUESS JUST TRYING TO GET A GENERAL FEEL THEN, SO IT'S HARD.
IS THERE A RANGE THAT WE CAN SAY? SO ANYWHERE BETWEEN, LIKE, IF THERE'S 5700, 750 SQUARE FEET IN THAT TOTAL AREA, THEN LOTS YOU COULD GET IS AROUND 50 OR, AND IF WE'RE TALKING CONDOS THEN PROBABLY CLOSER TO 80 OR 90, LIKE IT SAID, SAYS THAT THE RANGE THAT WE'RE TALKING AND THEN THAT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDING THE AMOUNT OF THE LIMITS FOR PREVIOUS COVER IN THAT AREA.
SO PROBABLY MAXIMUM THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT YOU'RE GETTING IN THIS, ON THIS TRUCK.
IF YOU ALLOW THE SEX F SSX IS SOMETHING CLOSE TO 60, 70, LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY MAX WHAT YOU WOULD, WHERE YOU COULD GET, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK DEFINITIVELY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO PLAY WHEN THEY LAY OUT THE SITE, OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, SETBACKS AND DEALING WITH CF SETBACKS, THINGS SUCH AS THAT.
I REALLY JUST, SO THIS IS, I AGREE.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A VERY REAL, VERY VALID CONCERN ABOUT ACCESS AND SAFETY ON THIS ROAD, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PREVENT DEVELOPMENT ON THIS TRACK BECAUSE THAT LIMIT, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL INCREASE A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE ALREADY FACING WITH HOUSING.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS BALANCE OF LIKE MAKING SURE THAT NEIGHBORS AND AREAS ARE SAFE AND THAT PEOPLE IN THE CITY CAN LIVE HERE.
I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST TEMPER THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERNS FOR, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FACT THAT PREVENTING ANY DEVELOPMENT NOW INCREASES THE COST OF HOUSING DOWN THE LINE.
AND SO AS THE, AS OF SIX, I THINK 70 UNITS, 60 UNITS IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD TRANSITION.
I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE NUMBER OF HOMES TO PUT IN THAT AREA THAT WOULD YOU PUT THAT WOULDN'T BE THE 150 CARS THAT IN THAT AREA THAT WOULD, I THINK WOULD BE A DETRIMENT IN THAT AREA.
I GUESS IT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KOSTA.
AND I DO FEEL AS THOUGH WITH ALL THE LIMITATIONS OF THE CODE THAT WE ARE, THAT THE P THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY RESTRICTED QUITE A BIT.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD NECESSARILY AGREE WITH ADDING ANOTHER RESTRICTION BY OUR, OUR PROPOSAL.
I THINK WE, IF WE WENT WITH US OF SIX THERE'S ENOUGH, I MEAN, YOU CAN ONLY GO SO HIGH.
THERE'S PROBABLY SEE, YOU SAID THERE WERE CES ON THE PROPERTY.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE MAY BE ENOUGH LIMITATIONS AS IT STANDS WITH THAT ZONING, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THIS IS NOT A SUBDIVIDED TRACK.
SO AT THE SUBDIVISION PHASE, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SIDEWALKS, BUT IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE FRONTAGE OF THEIR PROPERTY AS GLASGOW IS OFFERING SOMETHING GREATER THAN THAT.
BUT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ENCOMPASS IN A CITY DOCUMENT.
WE'VE TRIED THIS BEFORE, BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE ON JOHNNY MORRIS, SO, RIGHT.
I MEAN, I THINK, WELL, THE NEW STREET IMPACT FEES, THEY DO HAVE SOME MOTIVATION RIGHT.
CAUSE THEY COULD PROBABLY BUILD IT CHEAPER THAN WHAT THEY WOULD PAY.
WHO ELSE FROM YOU GUYS? COMMISSIONER STERN, KING, WOODY, BOON, THOMPSON.
ANY QUESTIONS LET'S GO WITH WOODY AND THEN STERN.
YEAH, I THINK THE TRAFFIC IS A BIG CONCERN THERE AND I'M JUST LIKE THINKING ABOUT WHAT TEXTS THAT DID THEMSELVES.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY BUILT A BRAND NEW BUILDING, A BREDESEN ROAD, BROUGHT US A RUG AND GETS SUPER BUSY IT'S UH, UH, AND THEN THEY, THEY BUILT THEIR TRAP.
THEY HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR THEM ON THAT ROAD.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY DID, THEY DID IMPROVEMENTS, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN GET UP OF THEIR OWN FACILITY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEFINITELY SOME KUSH TO GET THE, YOU KNOW, GET THE ROADS FIXED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ADDING A TON, MORE HOUSES INTO THE MIX AND 10 MORE CARS INTO THE MIX OF THAT.
IT'S A, IT'S A MAJOR CONCERN AND THE FOLKS AREN'T JUST SAYING, WE DON'T WANT HOUSES HERE.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT SAFETY IS KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT HOUSING EVERYONE'S SAFETY.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, NIMBYISM THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PAINT ON A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT'S NOT GOING ON HERE.
THIS IS LIKE, THEY WANT THEIR HABITS GENUINE CONCERN ABOUT THEIR SAFETY.
UM, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME A CHAIR.
UM, I WOULD SAY IN GENERAL, I'M A BIG FAN OF, UH, INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING IN THE CITY.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, UM, MULTIFAMILY BELONGS ON CORNERS WITH TRANSIT SERVICE.
AND WHEN WE BUILD MULTIFAMILY ON TRACKS THAT DON'T HAVE TRANSIT SERVICE, WE FUEL FUTURE CONCERNS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND MULTIFAMILY ISN'T THE RIGHT FIT FOR THEIR PART OF TOWN EITHER.
AND SO I WOULD, UM, PREFER TO REMAIN DISCIPLINE.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT COMMISSIONER
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TXDOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON A HIGH-FREQUENCY TRANSIT LINE WITH THAT OFFICE.SO NOT THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO USE IT, BUT THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE AND THERE'S AN OPTION TO PREVENT IT FROM BECOMING AN INTOLERABLE TRAFFIC JAM.
AND THE MORE THAT IT IS, THE MORE LIKELY PEOPLE WILL USE IT.
THAT IS NOT THE SAME CASE HERE ON SIX 20.
IF WE BUILD A TON OF, UM, APARTMENTS IN THIS AREA, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT SOMETHING IN THE ETJ IS GOING TO HAVE TRANSIT ON THAT.
AND CERTAINLY THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THERE WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S A STATE ROAD.
SO, UM, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S THE CORRECT FIT IN THIS AREA, EVEN THOUGH I AM VERY LIKELY TO SUPPORT MULTI-FAMILY IN TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE LOCATIONS.
I DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD HIS HEAD.
I WAS JUST KIND OF ASKING THE GROUP.
WELL, I, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
I HAD THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND THE STAFF'S, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTFUL RECOMMENDATION HERE, GIVEN THIS PARTICULAR SIDE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DO ALSO SHARE COMMISSIONER WOODY'S, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND PLACES FOR, FOR OUR, FOR, FOR FOLKS HERE AND FOLKS THAT WANT TO MOVE HERE, THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO THAT.
AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT WE, THAT WE RESPECT EACH OTHER THAT WAY AND THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY YOU'RE NOT WELCOME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I, I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN STAY FOCUSED ON TRYING TO FIND THE HOUSING AND, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL HOUSING.
AND CERTAINLY WHEN THIS, THIS SITE WILL REDEVELOP AND IT WILL REDEVELOP FROM NO HOUSING THERE NOW TO MORE HOUSING AND, AND HOUSING FOR FAMILIES WHERE THEY FEEL SAFE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL SUPPORT THAT.
SO, AND I DO APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER STERN'S PERSPECTIVE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT, SUPPORTING HOUSING THAT WE WANT, THIS MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, WHERE THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSIT, EASY ACCESS TO TRANSIT, AND THAT WILL LEVERAGE OUR QUARTERS AND THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING ON OUR QUARTER.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HOW TO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THERE ARE LIMITS AND PRACTICAL LIMITS.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS IF IT'S AN SF SIX DEVELOPMENT, WOULD IT WOULD A SITE PLAN BE REQUIRED AND WOULD IT COME BACK TO THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION OR FOR REVIEW, AND THAT'S FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER KING, AS THIS WOULD BE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT MAY GO THROUGH RESIDENTIAL PERMITTING MULTI-FAMILY WOULD BE CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN WHICH WE GO THROUGH THE REGULAR SITE PLAN PROCESS.
SO THERE'S THE DIFFERENT REVIEW PROCESS FOR RESIDENTIAL PERMANENT, WHICH SF SIX THAT'S WHERE THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD FALL.
UM, AND IT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO COME BACK BEFORE THE CONDITION FOR APPROVAL UNLESS THE USERS WERE MADE CONDITIONAL.
I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE REALLY GOOD WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS AND THE ANALYSIS AND YOUR, AND YOUR INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE WITH THIS AREA AND THE PREVIOUS ZONING CASES.
ANYONE ELSE, BOON OR THOMPSON? I DO WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT THE SF SIX ZONING THAT I LIKE IS THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR CLUSTERING, WHICH MEANS SAVING TREES AND WATER AND ANIMALS AND OTHER WILDLIFE, FLORA AND FAUNA THAT MAY BE ON THE SITE NATIVE TO THE SITE, COMMISSIONER SMITH.
I ASKED THE QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT, UM, AND THAT IS REGARDING THE, THIS IS, UH, SHE MENTIONED SOMETHING IN HER PRESENTATION.
THEY'RE NOT, SHE DOESN'T REPRESENT THE LANDOWNER.
SHE REPRESENTED A POTENTIAL LAND BUYER.
UM, IF WE CAME IN AND ZONED AT SF SIX, WOULD YOUR POTENTIAL LAND BUYER STILL BUY THE PROPERTY? OR DO YOU KNOW THAT? AND CAN YOU WE'LL HAVE TO ASSESS.
IT DEPENDS ON WHERE WE LAND AT THE END OR AT THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE WE'LL MAKE A DECISION DEPENDING ON WHAT WE ULTIMATELY, I MEAN, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS GET PUSHED INTO SAYING IF WE CAN'T SUPPORT MF THREE, LET'S JUST OWN IT, SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, WHY DO WE HAVE TO ZONE IT? SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT
IS THAT AN OPTION? DO YOU SEEM KIND OF STRANGE TO BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR SOMEONE WHO'S NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND IS THAT A POTENTIAL BUYER? UM, AND THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THE OPTION OF COMING BACK AND SAYING, OKAY, WE'VE EVALUATED.
WE WANT TO COME BACK WITH SF SIX IN THE FEATURE OR SF FIVE OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
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GOING FORWARD WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION, TELLS THE COUNCIL NOTHING, UM, RECOMMEND NOT SUPPORTING IF WE COULD MCCAIN, WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION SAYING WE DON'T SUPPORT MF THREE.AND THAT IS OUR GOING FORWARD WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION, AS OPPOSED TO GOING FORWARD.
YOU'RE NOT MAKING A MOTION TO DENY.
I'M JUST SAYING IS AN OPTION TO COME IN AND SAY, WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING MF THREE.
ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE DENY? SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE THE POSITION THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO TAKE.
IT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, BUT THE REZONING REPLY.
AND WHAT W WHAT DOES THAT DO IF THEY WANT TO COME BACK FOR A DIFFERENT ZONING? SO IT DOES AFFECT THE TIME CLOCK IF THIS CASE WERE TO NOT GET APPROVED AT COUNCIL, OR IF THEY WERE TO WITHDRAW IT.
IF THEY WERE TO WITHDRAW IT WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMISSION, AND THEN 18 MONTHS, IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO DENY THE REZONING REQUEST FOR THEM TO REFILE FOR SOMETHING, UH, THE SAME OR MORE INTENSIVE.
SO IF THEY WERE DOING SOMETHING LESS INTENSE, IT WOULD NOT THAT'S RIGHT.
SO IF THEY WANTED TO COME BACK WITH SF SIX, NEXT WEEK, I COULD COME BACK WITH SF SIX NEXT WEEK.
IF WE DID NOT, I COULDN'T COME BACK WITH HIM AT FOUR NEXT WEEK.
CAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO NOT HIM AT THREE.
SO NOW WE WANT TO HIM AT FOUR.
THERE'D BE AT LEAST A YEAR WAITING PERIOD.
THAT'S IT? THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO W HOW, WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO CITY COUNCIL? I'M LOOKING AT THE
IF WE RECOMMEND DENIAL, WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO CITY THE PROJECT GOING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL? IT WOULD STILL PROCEED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE, MAKE THEIR OWN SUBJECT.
LIKE I SAID, IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO DENY IT, THEN THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO WAITING 18 MONTHS.
I GUESS ON THAT SAME VEIN, IF WE WERE TO SAY, WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING HERE FOR ME, IT WOULD BE SF SIX WITH THE CEO OF 28 UNITS BECAUSE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT ELSE IS ON THE STREET.
UM, AND WE MAY BE GIVING COUNSEL BETTER INFORMATION.
IF WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO FORWARD WITH FORWARD WITH THE CASE IF THEY DON'T WANT SF SIX WITH THE CEO.
UM, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE THE ZONING, IF THIS WAS GOING TO COME BACK, THAT SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT ZONING.
WHAT HANGS ME UP IS THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ON TOP OF THE STRAIGHT SF SIX, IF IT WERE JUST STRAIGHT TO SF SIX TO UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT REALLY CAN BE BUILT.
THAT'S EXACTLY YOU HAVE THE, THE 40% HAS TO BE LEFT UNDEVELOPED BECAUSE OF THE WATERSHED.
YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE OTHER ZONINGS AND PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL CEO ON TOP OF ALL, THAT WAS LIKE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO EAT.
IT JUST MAKES IT REALLY CLEAR.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING MORE THAN 28 UNITS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS MANY HOMES GET BUILT IN SF SIX AS COULD GET BUILT IN SSX, UM, AS OPPOSED TO LIMITING THEM FURTHER BEYOND THE SF SIX.
I JUST, MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, FOLLOWING ON TO COMMISSIONER SMITH'S POINT THERE THAT IF THEY, IF, UH, WE RECORD, IF WE DENY THE MP3 ZONING, THEY COULD THEN, UH, COME BACK WITH
AND IT WOULD, UH, WITHOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANTED TO, IS THAT CORRECT STAFF? IF THE CASE WAS, IF THEY WOULD DREW, THEY COULD COME BACK IN 12 MONTHS.
IF THEY PROCEED TO COUNSEL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL FOR COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL STILL COULD GRANT THEM
UM, WHICHEVER SENDING THAT THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE, THE ONLY THING WOULD BE AS IF IT GOT DENIED AT COUNCIL AS WELL, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE AN 18 MONTH WINDOW WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANYTHING M A THREE OR HIGHER.
BUT, BUT IF THE MF TWO IS LOWER, EMF ONE IS LOWER.
THEY CAN COME BACK WITH THAT A WEEK AFTER CITY COUNCIL.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT'S NOT ALL BMF CATEGORIES.
IT'S JUST THE IMF THREE OR ABOVE.
IN TERMS OF A, OF A CAP HERE, UH, WELL ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO STOP SO THAT OTHER FOLKS CAN, CAN ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.
AND THEN SINCE I'LL ASK A QUESTION AND THAT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE THERE A DIFFERENT QUESTION, IS THIS AN, A FIREWISE AREA I'VE BEEN LOOKING, TRYING TO LOOK IT UP ON THE MAP AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS SO, AND I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE STREET OUT AND THAT'S ZIMMERMAN FOR WHAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF HOMES.
IT WAS NOT IDENTIFIED BY THE SITE PLAN STAFF AS WITHIN A WOOEY ERA AREA.
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HOWEVER, AS WE KNOW ON RIVER PLACE, NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE, THAT IS AN OUI AREA WITH THE BCP CP LAND.I THINK THAT I'LL GET IT OUT STRAIGHT IN A MINUTE.
UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE DIRECTLY WITHIN, IT MAY NOT BE, UM, CAUSE IT'S FURTHER IN, UM, FROM THE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES THAT ARE CONSIDERED THE BCCP LAND, WHICH IT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST UNDEVELOPED LAND IN FIRE THREAT APPEARS TO BE.
SO I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT I DIDN'T LOOK IT UP.
IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE SITE PLAN STAFF THAT HIGHLIGHTS OF WHETHER IT'S IN A WIFI AREA OR NOT.
AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO LOOK IT UP TOO.
SO LATER I'LL SEND YOU A TEXT OR A TEXT OF, GOSH, YOU CAN SOUNDS LIKE I'M TALKING TO MY DAUGHTER.
I'LL SAY I'LL, I'LL SHOOT YOU AN EMAIL AND I'LL ASK YOU IF YOU COULD SEND ME HOW I CAN LOOK, I WILL SET MYSELF, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FIREWISE.
UM, IT BEING A POTENTIAL FIREWISE AREA.
NOW THAT YOU'VE HIGHLIGHTED THAT.
OH, I, THEN I STARTED LOOKING FOR IT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO ANYBODY WANT TO PUT TOGETHER A MOTION MR. GREENBERG OR SORRY, BASED ON CONVERSATION TO THE SIDE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR SF SIX WITH THE CEO OF 32 UNITS.
ANY DISCUSSION? REMEMBER, COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THE NUMBER ANYWAY.
RIGHT? LET ME MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION OF SF SIX WITH NO CONDITIONALS, NO CONDITION.
AND I ALWAYS FORGET THE ORDER HERE YOU TAKE UP THE SECOND FIRST PASSES WE'RE DONE.
IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN YOU GO TO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
SO YOU MADE THE MOTION TO COMMISSIONER ACOSTA SECOND YOUR MOTION.
THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY.
SO MOSTLY STAFF SUPPORT OF THE SF SIX.
SO, UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ALTERNATIVE MOTION? I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS THE ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT, EVEN THOUGH I DID MY OWN LITTLE GRAPHICAL TRY TO FIT HOW MANY UNITS WOULD BE FIT INTO THERE.
AND I, I DID GET LIKE 32 ISH NUMBER OF UNITS.
UM, SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY A REASONABLE, BUT I DON'T LIKE BEING SO PRESCRIPTIVE.
I FEEL LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH OF THAT PRESCRIPTION IN THE CODE ALREADY.
THAT REQUIRES THAT IS GOING TO LIMIT THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
UM, SHERRI WORKED VERY, VERY HARD ON THIS AND SO I WANT TO SUPPORT STAFF, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE ALTERNATE MOTION OR THE SUBSTITUTE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
SO THAT'S FIVE, ALL THOSE AGAINST TWO.
UM, SO THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THE OTHER MOTION, WHICH IS A LIMIT OF 32 UNITS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ON ALL 7.6 ACRES, ALL THOSE.
OH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT BEFORE WE VOTE? NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE LIMITATION OF 3.2 32 UNITS, RIGHT? CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME WHO VOTED AGAINST IT AND ALL THE OTHERS VOTED FOR IT? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER KOSTA AND COMMISSIONER STERN.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SIDE OR YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY, UH, C1 ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING MATTERS OF THE LDC.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING.
UM, D ITEM D FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, ANYTHING? ANYONE? NO.
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UM, WE'RE MOVING ON TO E COMMUNITY COMMITTEE REPORTS AND WORKING GROUPS.WE MET THE CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE LAST TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, OH YES, IT WAS COMMERCIAL REDEVELOPMENT VERSUS RESIDENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT AND IT SEEMS, OH, AND IT WAS WATERSHED, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE.
AND THEY ARE BASICALLY ALIGNING THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENTS TO BE THE SAME.
IF YOUR PROPERTY HAS, UH, IS IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR
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FLOOD PLAIN, THEN YOU HA YOU CAN REDEVELOP IF YOU ARE NOT EXCEEDING THE EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE OR BUILDING MORE UNITS, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO, LIKE PUT YOUR, UM, WHAT WAS IT CALLED? THE FLOOD NOTE, THE BASE PLATE, THE FLOOD ZONE.YOU HAVE TO PUT IT TWO FEET ABOVE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.
SEEMED LIKE IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE MANY, MANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER INTERESTING THINGS ON COMING UP ON CODES AND ORDINANCES.
SO I'M EXCITED TO KEEP MOVING STUFF FORWARD.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE HAVING A JULY MEETING.
I ALSO MAY BE GOING ON VACATION.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE.
DID ANYBODY AT, DID YOU GUYS MEET, WE DID HAVE A MEETING LAST WEEK OR WEEK BEFORE.
UM, MAINLY TALKING ABOUT INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND THE IMPACTS OF INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND HOW IT'S CHANGING AND STAFF IS DOING A STUDY AND WE'RE GOING TO GET BRIEFED ON IT AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND KIND OF IT'LL GIVE US SOME BACKUP INFORMATION WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO ZONE INDUSTRIAL THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE ZONED INDUSTRIAL OR MORE COMMONLY ZONING SOMETHING SINGLE FAMILY, OR MULTI-FAMILY IN AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN TRADITIONALLY INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND THE IMPACTS OF THAT PROS AND CONS.
SO IT WAS INTERESTING MEETING AND I THINK WE'LL GET SOME GOOD INFORMATION OUT OF IT.
IS THERE A LOT OF, ARE THERE A LOT OF REQUESTS TO CHANGE THINGS INTO INDUSTRIAL? THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY THERE HAS BEEN, YEAH.
WE HAD SOME STUFF AND A LOT OF IT IS AREAS LIKE SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE.
THERE'S A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL ZONING BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY THAT WAS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN AND NOW IT'S NOT, AND PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO COME IN AND ZONE THAT MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY.
WHAT IS HISTORICAL BEEN INDUSTRIAL? WELL, AND I WAS SAYING THE OTHER WAY AROUND, YES.
YOU, I LIKE PEOPLE ARE MINING BITCOIN OR WHATEVER.
SO YOU'RE SEEING, THAT'S A NEW THING.
A SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE WE DIDN'T MEET.
AND THE ONION CREEK AND LOCALIZED FLOODING WORKING GROUP, WE DID NOT MEET.