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[CALL TO ORDER]
CALL THE SPECIAL CALLED JUNE MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO ORDER.UM, I DID INITIALLY JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR NATION'S HAVING YET ANOTHER SEISMIC, UH, INTENSE NEWS DAY.
AND I KNOW IT'S REALLY HARD TO FOCUS ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE NEWS TODAY.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS STAFF FOR BEING HERE AND OUR, UH, PRESENTERS AND SPEAKERS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, I THINK IT DOES SPEAK TO THE IMPORTANT WORK, UM, THAT, THAT WE ALL DO FOR MUSIC AND AUSTIN, UH, AUSTIN MUSIC HERE BEING, YOU KNOW, A CORE PART OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND OF OUR ECONOMY AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
KEN'S GOT OUR AGENDA TOGETHER.
[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
AS OUR SPEAKERS SIGNED UP, I THINK OUR SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR SPECIFIC ITEMS. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.UH, THERE SPEAKER IS SIGNED UP FOR TWO HOURS.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY GENERAL, UH, CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
SO, UH, WE WILL, UH, GO AHEAD AND HAVE OUR SPEAKER, WAIT, LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THOSE ITEMS. CAUSE I THINK IT'LL BE EASIER ON THE COMMISSIONERS AND PROBABLY MORE HELPFUL TO THE SPEAKER IF HE CAN SPEAK RIGHT BEFORE THOSE ITEMS. UM, SO WE
[CHAIR’S REPORT]
WILL START OUT WITH, I HAVE A CHAIR'S REPORT TODAY AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I DO EVERY MEETING, BUT, UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY VOLLEY AND I ARE STARTING, ARE FROM THE LAST MEETING WE'RE STARTING A 12 MONTH TERM.SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSION TO FOCUS ON.
AND, UH, BASICALLY THERE'S TWO KEY AREAS THAT I WANT TO COVER.
BUT, UM, BEFORE I DID THAT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT LIKE, WHY, WHY WE DO THIS WORK, HOW WE DO THIS WORK.
AND, UM, OUR CENTRAL FUNCTION AS A COMMISSION, JUST TO REMIND OURSELVES IS TO HELP SHAPE MUSIC-RELATED POLICY BY GATHERING INFORMATION FROM STAKEHOLDERS, FROM STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THEN WE, WE CONSIDER THAT INFORMATION AND WE USE IT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL OR A COUNCIL APPOINTEES.
SO ARE THAT'S OUR, OUR ESSENTIAL AND CORE FUNCTION IS TO ADVISE COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF MUSIC IN AUSTIN.
UM, IN DOING THAT, OUR PARTNERSHIPS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO WE HAVE EXCELLENT PARTNERSHIPS WITH STAFF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THEY WORK SO HARD ON MUSIC ISSUES.
UM, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONS, ESPECIALLY THE ARTS COMMISSION, AND THAT'S A NATURAL FIT FOR US.
UM, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT COMMISSION, UH, VOLLEY AND IME WITH THEIR CHAIRS AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE CLOSELY ALIGNED IN FUNDING EFFORTS, UM, AND OTHER ISSUES.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ARE NOT, WE'RE NOT COMPETING FOR FUNDING, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER, UH, TO GET THE BEST INVESTMENT IN MUSIC AND ARTS JOINTLY.
AND TO THAT ENDS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING ON SCHEDULING A JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.
I THINK IT WILL BE THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'VE HAD AND A COUPLE OF YEARS, PROBABLY BEFORE, SINCE PRE PANDEMIC AND THE SO, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AGENDA AND THAT SCHEDULE, SO STAY TUNED FOR THOSE DETAILS.
UM, AND I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE US AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH IS A RELATIVELY NEW ORGANIZATION ABOUT A YEAR OLD, BUT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THEIR WORK.
AND, UM, THEY'LL BE GIVING US AN UPDATE.
UM, EITHER TERESA ANN WILL COME TO OUR JULY 11TH MEETING AND I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE LIKE A TEENY TINY UPDATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A, A MILESTONE COMING UP.
THEY WILL BE, UM, CONTACTING ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE APPLIED TO THE CULTURAL TRUST.
AND THERE'LL BE LETTING ORGANIZATIONS KNOW IF THEY WERE LONG LISTED.
UH, THEY WILL NOT PROBABLY BE ABLE TO PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE BECAUSE THESE DEALS, THESE, THESE GRANTS ARE COMPLEX AND THAT THEY INVOLVE REAL ESTATE.
AND SO THEY THERE'S A LOT TO BE WORKED OUT.
AND I MEAN, JUST QUITE HONESTLY, I THINK THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO TIP THEIR HAND TOO MUCH IN NEGOTIATIONS, UM, WITH REAL ESTATE INTERESTS.
BUT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ANY, ANY ANYBODY THAT KIND OF WINDS UP, WHETHER THEY'RE, UM, A PROPERTY OWNER OR ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS,
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LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A WIN-WIN SITUATION.SO WE DO HAVE LIKE VERY EXCITING NEWS COMING OUT OF ADC.
AND, UM, WE DO REALLY APPRECIATE THEM AT BELIVEAU WHO IS OUR, UH, APPOINTEE TO THE AEDC BOARD.
AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO JUST SAY BEFORE I TOUCH ON THE WORK THAT I WANT US TO DO IS HOW WE GO ABOUT THIS WORK.
WE HAVE HAD A FOCUS ON DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION IN THE LAST YEAR.
WE'VE MADE GREAT STRIDES WITH THAT, BUT IT'S NOT JUST A BOX THAT WE CHECK.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ONGOING.
WE WILL LOOK AT ISSUES THROUGH THAT LENS FOR, AS, FOR AS LONG AS I'M ON THIS COMMISSION.
AND I KNOW ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE CURRENT COMMISSIONERS ARE REALLY COMMITTED TO THAT TOO.
AND WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF CITY STAFF.
UM, SO GETTING TO HEAR LIKE, WHAT ARE WE WORKING ON? SO WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT FUNDING, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
AND I REALLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT FUNDING AS TRANSFORMATIONAL INVESTMENT IN OUR MUSIC ECONOMY.
SO AS THE COMMISSION, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS WILL EXERCISE STRATEGIC STEWARDSHIP OF EXISTING PUBLIC FUNDS, PARTICULARLY HOT, BUT WILL ALSO PURSUE INNOVATIVE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE GOAL OF BUILDING ATX MUSIC INTO A MAJOR ECONOMIC SECTOR ON PAR WITH THAT NASHVILLE AND LA PRODUCING GOOD PAYING JOBS AND CONTINUALLY ELEVATING OUR CITY'S BRAND AS AN ENVIABLE HUB OF CREATIVITY AND CULTURAL LIFE.
AND THE MUSIC COMMISSION WILL BE UNWAVERING CHAMPIONS OF FUNDING FOR MUSIC.
WE'RE REALLY LIKE, I THINK OF US AS LIKE THE MAMA BEAR FOR THE MUSIC COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE'LL LOOK AT THIS.
SECONDLY, REAL ESTATE AND AUSTIN, AND I'VE ALREADY ALLUDED TO IT IS, UM, DRAMATICALLY CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE IN AUSTIN.
THERE ARE AMAZING OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE ARE CONCERNS AND THE POTENTIAL FOR SUCCESS OR FAILURE IS GREAT.
AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S, UM, I THINK A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR AUSTIN MUSIC TO ADD VISION AND VALUE TO SOME UPCOMING PROJECTS, INCLUDING, UH, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT INITIATIVE, THE SIXTH STREET REDEVELOPMENT, EVEN THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION.
UM, AND AT THE SAME TIME, AS MUSIC CAN MAKE THESE PROJECTS MORE SUCCESSFUL, THOSE PROJECTS CAN SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SUBSIDIZED, CREATIVE SPACE, AND, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER WE CAN CONTINUE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ELEVATE AUSTIN'S BRAND AS A MUSIC CITY.
AND I, I DON'T MEAN BRANDED, UH, LIKE A SORT OF, UM, I MEAN, TO ME LIKE YOUR BRAND IS LIKE, THAT'S YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW OTHER CITIES PERCEIVE YOU.
AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO GROW THAT AND SUSTAIN IT AND AUSTIN, AND SO I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANY PUBLIC PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS, NEGOTIATIONS AROUND REAL ESTATE, UM, SHOULD INCLUDE THE MUSIC COMMISSION, LIKE THE MUSIC COMMUNITY NEEDS A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND THESE DISCUSSIONS, UM, NOT SO THAT WE CAN SLOW THINGS DOWN OR JUST FEEL GREAT ABOUT OURSELVES, THAT WE WERE TALKING TO PEOPLE, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY TRULY THIS BRIDGE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY AND BETWEEN REAL ESTATE AS WELL.
AND, UM, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S AHEAD.
SO WITH THAT, THAT IS THE END OF THE CHAIR'S REPORT.
THANKS FOR EVERYBODY FOR LETTING ME TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT.
[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
MOVE AHEAD TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.SO I GIVE EVERYBODY A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.
SO WE WILL MOVE INTO NEW BUSINESS AND, UM, I WOULD, OH, I DO WANT TO MENTION, WE DON'T HAVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE CAUSE WE'RE AT A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
SO I DO HOPE THAT THE TIARAS WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN US ON JULY 5TH.
ERIC IS NODDING, SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS.
AND THAT'S LIKE MY FAVORITE PART OF THE MEETING, UH, WHERE I DON'T HAVE TO TALK AND WE JUST GET TO LISTEN TO MUSIC.
SO W I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION ACTUALLY THAT WE MOVE AN ITEM UP.
UH THAT'S ITEM TWO C UH, WE HAVE CAITLIN RYAN HERE, BUT SHE DOES HAVE ANOTHER MEETING THAT SHE'S GOING TO ATTEND CAITLIN ROAMING AND UPSTREAM REALTY.
SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE MOVE THAT.
SO AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA, CAN I GET A SECOND? DO WE HAVE TO DO ALL APPROVED FOR THAT? OKAY.
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LOOKS LIKE.SO CAITLIN RYAN, IF YOU WOULD STEP UP TO THE PODIUM.
[2C. Discussion and possible action following presentation from Caitlin Ryan of Stream Realty, and the Historic Landmark Commission, on possible demolition and redevelopment of venue spaces in downtown entertainment districts.]
YEAH, SO THE ACTUAL ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING PRESENTATION FROM CAITLIN RYAN UPSTREAM REALTY.AND THEN YES, WE HAVE TERRY MYERS HERE FROM THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET YOU, UH, GIVE US YOUR, TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT.
AND THEN TERRY IS GOING TO GIVE US SOME INSIGHT FROM THE HISTORIC LANDMARK CONDITION PERSPECTIVE AND REALLY APPRECIATE BOTH OF Y'ALL BEING HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS SO SIGNIFICANT FOR MUSIC.
IF YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY SIXTH STREET IS A VITAL IMPORTANCE TO THIS CITY.
IT'S OUR LAST MAIN NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE LEFT IN OUR CITY.
UM, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK IT'S THE JUUL OF AUSTIN THAT IS JUST, UH, THAT UNFORTUNATELY FOR VARIOUS REASONS, UH, WE HAVEN'T REALLY EMBRACED AND THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY ASKED, SPENT A DEDICATED ENOUGH AMOUNT OF TIME TO THIS PROJECT FOR US CAME TO FRUITION.
I'M FROM AUSTIN, I'M THE HEAD OF OUR COMPANY.
ALSO, UH, DAVE BLACKBIRD IS ALSO FROM AUSTIN, WE OFFICE RIGHT BY HERE.
AND SO OUR WHOLE, UH, IT WAS JUST A QUESTION, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S JUST THESE BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT USED TO BE SO LIVELY WHEN I WAS GROWING UP.
UM, IT'S A HUGE MISCONCEPTION BECAUSE IT'S EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE I SEE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS.
THEY'RE LIKE DALLAS-BASED STREAM REALTY AND I'M LIKE, WE COULDN'T BE ANY FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH BECAUSE WE'RE VERY MUCH LOVE AUSTIN, WHERE A LOT OF US ARE FROM HERE.
UM, BUT WE HAVE, AND WE THOUGHT, WHY IS SIXTH STREET REMAINING AS IT IS? WHY AREN'T WE SEEING A LOT MORE LIVE MUSIC? WHY HAS IT IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, WHY WE LOST A HUGE PART OF THE MUSIC COMMUNITY THERE? WHY IS THERE A LOT MORE VACANCIES DOWN THERE WHAT'S GOING ON? UM, AND SO VERY QUICKLY DUG IN, GOT TO KNOW EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER AND WAS JUST AN ECLECTIC OF DISJOINTED OWNERSHIP.
AND IT WAS JUST THESE AMAZING GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO OWN THESE AMAZING STRUCTURES, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM ARE IN THEIR EIGHTIES, LIKE LATE SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES.
AND SO THEY'RE, AND THEY WERE TRANSITIONING OVER TO THEIR CHILDREN'S OWNERSHIPS WHO MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL TO GO AND SPEND A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REALLY UPGRADE THESE BUILDINGS.
SO, ONE THING THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE IS AS AN ORGANIZATION, WE WANTED TO PROTECT THESE.
WE FELT LIKE IT WOULD BREAK OUR HEARTS.
IF WE SAW SOMEBODY FROM, AND THERE'S NO DISRESPECT FROM A DALLAS OR NEW YORK OR ANYBODY ELSE COME IN HERE AND TURN THESE STRUCTURES.
AND SHE JUST EVERYDAY RETAIL LIKE A SEPHORA OR ANY LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS WAY THAT WASN'T AN ICONIC PIECE OF AUSTIN'S HISTORY AND DIDN'T GIVE NOD TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
UM, SO WE THOUGHT WHAT A GREAT WAY TO, IF WE CAN HELP OUT HERE KIND OF BUY A BUNCH OF THESE STRUCTURES AND REALLY MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE THE MUSIC COMMUNITY OF AUSTIN AND JUST THE LOCAL AUSTIN HISTORY BEHIND IT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, HOW DO I, IF YOU WANT TO TELL STAFF TO JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE NEXT SPOT.
I THINK YOU CAN TOGGLE THROUGH AND YOU CAN CHANGE THE SLIDES.
IS THAT RIGHT? SHE CAN JUST DO IT WITH HER HAND.
SO THIS I'M HAPPY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY FEEL FREE TO RUN.
THE OTHER TWO GUYS ARE LIMITED ON TIME, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO DO THIS RESPECTFULLY TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMUNITY, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE, THIS IS A JUUL OF DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.
THIS IS WHERE AUSTIN HISTORY REALLY BEGAN.
UM, AND IN THAT WAY, WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL.
WE BROUGHT ON, UH, EMILY LITTLE, WHO IS AMAZING.
SHE CAME OUT OF RETIREMENT FOR THIS PROJECT TO REALLY ENSURE THAT WE DID THIS RIGHT.
AND SO WITH THAT, WE THOUGHT WHAT AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND MAKE SIXTH STREET NOT ONLY ACTIVE FROM THURSDAY TO SATURDAY NIGHTS, BUT LET'S MAKE SIXTH STREET ACTIVE ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, LET EVERY PERSON AND EVERY CITIZEN OF AUSTIN COME AND HAVE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE SPECIAL AND BELONG HERE, UH, AND MAKE IT A PLACE OF INCLUSION.
WELL, I'LL JUST SKIP OVER THIS REALLY FAST.
UM, SO THIS GIVES AN OVERALL PROFILE OF WHAT WE OWN ON THE DISTRICT.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE LIKE A COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S NOTEWORTHY THAT WHEN WE'VE PURCHASED ALL THESE BUILDINGS, THE MAJORITY OF WERE BUILDINGS THAT WE PURCHASED.
WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO BUILDINGS THAT HAD EXISTING, UM, BUSINESSES IN THEM.
THE REST OF THEM WERE VACANT AND THE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT WERE IN THEM, UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH COVID.
AND IT WAS BECAUSE THEIR LEASE WAS ABOUT TO EXPIRE IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID AND THEY CHOSE NOT TO CONTINUE WITH IT.
AND SO WE WERE DISAPPOINTED TO HAVE THAT, BUT ONE OF THOSE THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID, RIGHT.
UM, WE'VE BEEN ACQUIRING THESE FOR THREE YEARS.
AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THE PRESERVATION.
WE HIRED, UM, ANIMOSITY, UH, AMAZING, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATIONISTS WHO CAME IN AND REALLY HIGHLIGHTED, DID A MASSIVE REPORT ON ALL OF THE BACKGROUND OF ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PAYING RESPECT FOR IT.
AND OUR OVERALL DREAM, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS BACK IN THE DAY, I'M GOING TO AGE MYSELF A LITTLE BIT HERE, BUT THE
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DAYS WHEN SIXTH STREET, YOU COULD WALK DOWN SIXTH STREET AND IT WAS SUCH AN ECLECTIC GROUP OF MUSICIANS DOWN THERE.IT WAS, YOU COULD HEAR BLUES, YOU COULD HEAR COUNTRY, YOU COULD HEAR ROCK LIKE ROCK.
LIKE THERE WAS, YOU COULD GO TO EVERY SPECIFIC PLACE AND HAVE A PIECE OF MUSIC HONORED.
UM, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE KIND OF LOST THAT A LITTLE BIT FOR MULTITUDE OF REASONS.
UM, BUT IT GIVES US A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WHERE ESPECIALLY THIS IS THE OLD BUFFALO BILLIARDS BUILDING.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY THE MISSOURI HOUSE BUILT IN 1864.
IT WAS THE PLACE WHERE THE COWBOYS WOULD COME AND STAY BEFORE THEY SETTLED THE WEST.
UM, THE GROWTH PHARMACY BUILDING IS AN INCREDIBLE PIECE OF HISTORY THAT IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FIRST PHARMACIES IN AUSTIN.
AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS EVERYTHING ELSE, THESE TOGETHER, THESE BUILDINGS TO SERVE TO BE WORKED ON PRESERVED.
AND THIS, THESE EXPERTS, THESE ARE MY TWO FAVORITE BUILDINGS IN AUSTIN.
UM, BUT WE'RE TALKING TO AN AMAZING GROUP OUT OF HERE WHO REALLY WANTED TO DO THE RESPECTFUL, UH, WANT TO RESPECT AUSTIN'S HISTORY HERE BY BRINGING BACK THE NAME OF THE MISSOURI HOUSE, BUT PUTTING THIS AS A FOOD HALL AND ALIVE MUSIC, UM, ORGANIZATION ON BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS.
AND MAINLY WE WANTED THE FOOD HALL, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HERE HAS TRIED TO EAT DOWNTOWN IN AUSTIN THESE DAYS, BUT I'VE NOT ACHIEVED A SALAD LESS THAN $20.
AND SO THIS FOOD HALL IS SPECIFICALLY GOING TO BE TARGETED TOWARDS LESS THAN $10 LUNCH AND DINNERS.
AND SO IT ALLOWS THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WORK IN THIS DISTRICT AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE TO ACTUALLY STAY HERE AND LISTEN TO A SHOW AND BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT AND NOT BE PRICED OUT OF DOWNTOWN.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY YOU WANT THE SIXTH STREET TO BE AN INCLUSIONARY AREA, YOU WANT IT TO BE REPRESENTATIVE WHAT AUSTIN IS WAS, IS GOING TO BE, YOU NEED TO REALLY EMBRACE THE WHOLE AUSTIN COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THIS IS THE 500 BLOCK NORTH.
UM, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE CAME UP WITH THAT WE HAD TO SAY IS TO ORDER TO MAKE STICK STREET ALIVE MUSIC BACK TO THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL, BUT ALSO A 18 HOUR STREET, AS THEY SAY, YOU HAVE TO PUT SOME DAYTIME USES ON THAT STREET.
SO SOME EXAMPLES OF WHY PEOPLE NEED TO COME HERE DURING THE DAY.
SO WE HAVE PROPOSED, AND THIS IS WHAT COUNCIL WAS NICE ENOUGH TO GRANT US LAST WEEK IS, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO, EXCUSE ME, UM, DOING, TRANSITIONING THESE STRUCTURES TO A, UH, BOUTIQUE HOTEL, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SAME GROUPS THAT DO, UH, THAT HAVE A PART OF AUSTIN MOTEL.
THAT'S THE HOTEL, SAN JOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, AMAZING, UH, CARPENTER HOTEL AND TO, TO REALLY DO SOMETHING HERE'S BOUTIQUE MUSIC FOCUSED.
UM, THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO HAVE A SUBTERRANEAN MUSIC VENUE ON THERE WITH A BUNCH OF SEATS BECAUSE AFTER DIGGING IN WITH CODY COWEN, FROM THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT AND RYAN GARRETT, EVERYBODY ELSE, IT JUST, WHEN YOU'RE BOOKING THESE, I'M A NOVICE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS.
BUT LIKE WHEN A BOOKING NEEDS, YOU NEED A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT VENUES WITH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SEAT NUMBERS.
AND SO, CAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GARNER A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ARTISTS THAT WAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ATTRACT MORE ARTISTS TO THIS AREA.
UM, SO RIGHT HERE, WE HAVE NOT COME UP WITH A DESIGN.
UM, WE ARE ANYWAY, WE'RE WITH CAITLIN CONTRARES AND WE HAVE BEEN, UH, STEVE LOSS, ELIZABETH BRUMMETT UM, ABOUT THESE BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL ABOUT THE FACADES THAT WE KEEP AND LIKE THESE BUILDINGS THAT WE KEEP, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS OFTEN STRUCTURE AND WE WANT TO DO A STEP BACK.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE RAINY STREET EFFECT.
IF YOU'RE ON THE STREET, THERE'S A 400 FOOT TOWER AND YOU JUST FEEL LIKE YOU'RE VERY CLAUSTROPHOBIC.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT THE SAME SIXTH STREET.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PRESERVING AS MANY FACADES AS WE CAN AS POSSIBLE, BUT ALLOWING FOR A DIFFERENT, REALLY ECLECTIC, GOOD VIEWS, THAT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE DURING THE DAY.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE RIGHT THERE OF PRESENTED.
AND THEN 500 BLOCKS SOUTH IS ANYWAY, SORRY, HERE WE GO.
A MIX OF THESE BUILDINGS WITH A GREAT, A MUCH DIFFERENT USES DIRTY DOG BAR HAD BEEN THERE FOR 22 YEARS.
IT WAS A MUSIC VENUE AND IT WAS ALSO A BAR.
UM, SO THEY VACATED DURING COVID, BUT WE WANTED TO COME BACK.
WE HAVE A GROW TALKING TO A GREAT MUSIC VENUE FOR HERE AND THEN AN ECLECTIC KIND OF F AND B CONCEPT FOR ALL THE REST OF THE THREE REMAINING PROPERTIES THAT YOU SEE HERE, INCLUDING SACRAMENT TATTOO, WHICH THEY ARE STAYING BECAUSE THEY THEY'RE LIKE SOME OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, BECAUSE AS MUCH AS DIRTY SIX IS DIRTY SIX, WHICH WE WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THAT NOM OCCUR BECAUSE I'M ON A DIFFERENT SITE, 36, THE NAME ORIGINATION OF DIRTY SIX, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW IS NOT BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS NEED IMPROVING.
IT'S BECAUSE BACK IN HISTORY, UH, THE ANGLO AND CAUCASIAN BUSINESSES FOR ON CONGRESS AVENUE AND THE HISPANIC AFRICAN-AMERICAN LEBANESE BUSINESSES WERE EXCLUDED TO THIS PART OF SIX.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT NANAKO ACTUALLY CAME FROM.
SO ONE OF OUR MAIN GOALS IS TO CHANGE THAT NOM OCCUR TO SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT TO REALLY HONOR WHAT THIS SUBSECTION OF SIXTH STREET WAS, WHICH IS A MELTING POT, WHICH IF YOU LOOK IN AUSTIN TODAY, IT IS A MELTING POT.
IT'S LIKE AUSTIN HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THAT WAY.
AND SO 600 BLOCK OF SIXTH STREET, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING A HO LIKE A OFFICE BUILDING.
UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT I ALWAYS SAY, MY GOAL IS IT'S GOING TO BE A RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, BECAUSE THIS IS THE ORIGINAL EMO SITE YOU HAVE HERE.
NOBODY REALLY KNOWS THAT RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL IN NEW YORK IS AN OFFICE BUILDING.
AND SO ALL YOU SEE IS RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL.
YOU'RE ENTHRALLED BY THE MUSIC.
AND THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL FOR THIS SUBSECTION.
UM, WHY WE AREN'T DOING A MULTI-FAMILY
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HERE.WE AREN'T DOING APARTMENTS, WHICH WE WOULD LOVE TO DO AS WELL IS BECAUSE IT IS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
AND SOMETIMES IT GETS A LITTLE BIT TOUGH WHEN YOU'RE HAVING LIVE MUSIC PLAYING AT 2:00 AM FOR SOMEBODY TO TOTALLY BE LIVING RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
AND SO AN OFFICE BUILDING SEEMED TO MAKE US THE, GIVE US THE ABILITY TO MAKE A REALLY AMAZING STREETSCAPE WHERE THE LOBBY OF THE OFFICE BUILDING WILL ACTUALLY BE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
SO YOU AREN'T HAVING A SPACE THAT IS WASTED FOR LOBBY SPACE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SPACE THAT IT'S JUST LIKE OPEN FOR A BUNCH OF LIKE MY WHOLE GOAL EVENTUALLY IS TO BRING ME EMAILS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BACK TO THIS MAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THEY STARTED.
UM, AND JUST GIVE A BUNCH OF AUSTIN HISTORY HERE.
UM, BUT ALSO IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE A LOT OF PARKING FOR THE STREET.
IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE OVER 600 PARKING SPACES FOR PEOPLE, OFFICE TENANTS LEAVE AT 5:00 PM.
SO EVERYBODY'S SHOWING UP AT A LATER TIME, WE'LL HAVE A PLACE TO PARK THAT IS WELL LIT AND SAFE AND ALLOWED TO HIRE INSECURITY.
AND THESE ARE THESE PROJECTS THERE GO, AND THAT'S THE PROPOSED RIGHT THERE.
AND THE 700 BLOCK SOUTH, THIS PARKING LOT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT THERE.
UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH BRIDGET DUNLAP, WHO'S ON RAINY STREET.
AND SO HER HISTORY, SHE WAS THE EVOLUTION FOR ANY SHOOT.
AND SHE WANTS TO DO AN OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE HERE THAT IS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, TURF THAT YOU CAN COME AND SEE OUTDOOR MUSIC WITH TWO DIFFERENT STAGES AND MORE OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, OPEN AIR MUSIC THAN YOU THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW.
AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT LIKE RENDERING OF SUBSECTION OF THIS IS WHERE 35 MEETS SIXTH STREET.
THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR PREMIER FIRST EXAMPLE OF SIXTH STREET.
UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING DOING A ROOFTOP DECK, BUT, UM, WE'RE PRETTY FLEXIBLE IN THAT, HOWEVER, THIS GREAT, THESE GREAT COMPILATION OF BUILDINGS FOR EASY TIGER USED TO LOOK WOULD BE LOCATED, HAVE A PRIVATIZED ALLEY IN THE BACK.
SO YOU CAN HONESTLY LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING TO A USER THAT WANTS TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT MUSIC VENUES, BUT ALSO THREE DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS.
SO YOU CAN GO FROM A MUSIC VENUE ON THE BACK ALLEY WAY NEAR HILTON GARDEN INN AND GO POP INTO DIFFERENT MUSIC VENUES AND POP IN FROM THE BACK.
SO IT'S GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FNB CONCEPTS ON THE STREET.
AND I ALWAYS SAY SIX STREET DOESN'T HAVE A, UH, BAR PROBLEM HAS A RATIO PROBLEM WHERE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST TWO RESTAURANTS AND ALL BARS.
AND I'M LIKE, IF WE START EVENING OUT THAT RATIO, IF WE START GETTING PEOPLE DOWN THERE DURING THE DAY, THIS BECOMES A STREET THAT ALL AUSTINITES CAN ENJOY.
UM, WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH AUSTIN TRAFFIC, AUSTIN, PUBLIC WORKS, EVERYTHING ELSE TO TAKE THESE SIDEWALKS AND MAKE THEM MORE WALKABLE.
AND SO SIX STREETS CURRENTLY FOUR LANES WE'RE PROPOSING TAKING IT DOWN TO THREE LANES AND HAVING EXTENDED THESE SIDEWALKS OUT TO 25 FEET, UM, IS WHAT IT PROPOSED.
AND SO MAKING THESE MORE WALKABLE, MAYBE LIKE, YOU KNOW, MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, MORE SCOOTERS GIVES SCOOTERS, BIKES, MULTIPLE MULTITUDE OF WAYS TO GET DOWN AND ENJOY SIXTH STREET FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE S THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS WE'VE RESEARCHED IN THAT HAVE DONE THE STREETSCAPE PRETTY LIKE PRETTY AMAZINGLY.
UM, AND SO BRANDING PARTNERSHIPS, LIKE I JUST MENTIONED, UM, THE DIRTY SIX NAMA CARE IS SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT LEAVING BEHIND.
AND SO FOR US, WE'RE PUTTING IN SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS WITH ARTWORK INTO, UP AND DOWN THE STREET TO HONOR THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE STREET.
AND SO IF YOU GO DOWN THERE TODAY, THERE'S NO REAL WAY.
EXCEPT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAQUES ON THE WALLS, UM, INTERACTIVE WAY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE AMAZING HISTORY BEHIND THIS NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING IS WE HAVE A GROUP CALLED NINE DOT ARTS, UM, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY WAS HELPING US WITH IT.
AND PRESERVATION AUSTIN HAS GIVEN US AMAZING STORIES OF, OF INDIVIDUALS THAT SHOULD BE, UH, REALLY MEMORIALIZED DOWN THERE IN A REALLY UNIQUE ARTWORK AND ART WAY, UM, TO COME AND CREATE THESE STRUCTURE LIKE YOU CAN DO STRUCTURAL.
UM, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THE BUILDINGS DOWN THERE, THEY'RE THEIR OWN PIECE OF ARTWORK.
SO I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF MURALS ON BUILDINGS.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DISTRICT.
I THINK THERE'S A GREAT RATE OF WAY TO DO IT, UM, BUT, UH, OXFORD THEMSELVES.
BUT, UM, I THINK PARTNERING WITH ALL THIS ARTWORK DOWN THERE AND PARTNERING WITH THE MUSIC TEAM, COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE WAYS OF PEOPLE TO HONOR, AND ALSO HAVE ANYBODY WHO COMES DOWN HERE, WHETHER IT'S A TOURIST, WHETHER IT'S A LOCAL REALLY UNDERSTAND AUSTIN'S HISTORY IN THIS SPECIFIC DISTRICT, UM, AND REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
AND THEN IT'S JUST THE WALNUT CREEK RENOVATION AS WELL.
THIS WE'RE, UM, WE'RE TALKING TO THEM IN VERY GREAT DETAIL BECAUSE OUR SUBSECTION OF SIXTH STREET IS, IS PHASE THREE FOR THE WATERLOO GREENER THERE, THE WALLER CREEK HAD ABSOLUTE WATER WHILE THEIR CREEK RENOVATION.
SO WE'RE SEEING IF WE CAN DO OUR IMPROVEMENTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR PHASE THREE.
SO ALL THE PATRONS OF SIXTH STREET, AREN'T GOING TO SEE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING AT STAGNANT TIMES AT LIKE DIFFERENT TIMES.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE.
SO WE CAN MAYBE JUST GO AND HOPEFULLY IN A COUPLE YEARS, THIS STREET IS WHAT WE ALL REMEMBER IT AS I ALWAYS SAY, IT'S NOT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF SIX STREETS, THE REVITALIZATION OF SIXTH STREET.
UM, AND SO, UM, JUST, HOPEFULLY I WENT THROUGH THAT REALLY QUICK.
SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
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YEAH.I'M I THINK WE ALL DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS TO ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS TODAY, THAT'S, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
UM, BUT IT IS STUFF THAT WE DEFINITELY LOOKS, SORRY.
UH, SO WE WILL, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
UM, IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE DETAIL ON TODAY, THAT IS FINE.
WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU BACK SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION ON THIS.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO IT'S A REALLY AMBITIOUS PROJECT IN MANY WAYS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE AS YOU'VE NOTED, LIKE IT IS SO CENTRAL TO AUSTIN AND TO OUR IDENTITY.
AND, UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY YOU GUYS ARE TAKING ON A LOT, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF, OF REAL ESTATE, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF JUST THE CULTURAL LIFE OF AUSTIN AND SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH AS A CITY RIGHT NOW.
UM, ONE OF THOSE BEING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SPACE DOWNTOWN IS REALLY EXPENSIVE.
LIKE OUR VENUES REALLY STRUGGLE.
SO, UM, YEAH, SO JUST STARTING OUT FROM THE MUSIC PERSPECTIVE, HOW WILL YOU, UH, TRY TO ATTRACT POTENTIAL BUSINESS OWNERS, YOU KNOW, SMALL, SMALLER BUSINESS OWNERS THAT MAY NOT HAVE, UM, REALLY THAT THEY MIGHT NOT THINK OF THEMSELVES AS HAVING THE MEANS TO AFFORD SPACE DOWNTOWN, OR AT LEAST DOWNTOWN, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO TO ATTRACT THAT TYPE OF TENANT AND HELP THEM, YOU KNOW, HAVE SPACE? SO FOR US, IT'S ALSO ALSO WHAT KIND OF USES WE'RE ATTRACTING.
SO AS FAR AS LIVE MUSIC VENUES, WHAT WE SEEN FROM AN AFFORDABILITY STANDPOINT IS THEY JUST CAN'T EXIST DOWNTOWN ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S SO EXPENSIVE.
AND SO WORKING WITH THEM AND PARTNERING THEM WITH A RESTAURANT OR A HOSPITALITY THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BE OPEN DURING THE DAY WITH ANOTHER MEANS OF REVENUE.
IN ADDITION TO LIVE, MUSIC IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET TOGETHER IN THAT SUBSECTION OF WAYS.
AND SO WE'RE FOCUSING ON THAT SPECIFICALLY.
UM, WE HAVE SUCH A RANGE OF DIFFERENT SIZED, UH, BUILDINGS DOWN THERE.
LIKE SOME ARE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, SOME ARE 25,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND SO IT'S, FOR US, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FINDING THESE LOCAL AUSTIN TENANTS TO GET DOWN THERE AND FINDING UNIQUE, AFFORDABLE WAYS.
BECAUSE IF WE CAN COME IN, THEY'RE SAYING LIKE, HEY, I CAN'T AFFORD THIS MUCH RENT, BUT I CAN DO A LOT OF THE WORK OURSELVES.
WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING A GREAT WAY FOR THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT INTERNALLY THAT CAN HELP THEM BUILD OUT THE SPACE AND SETTING INSTEAD OF STAYING AND CAN GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
INSTEAD OF SAYING LIKE, HEY, HERE'S YOUR RATE, HERE'S YOUR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS MONEY GO AWAY.
AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US NOT TO, WE DID NOT ENTER THIS PROJECT GOING AND TRYING TO GET THE BEST CREDIT AND TRYING TO GET THESE TENANTS THAT ARE GOING TO PAY THE MOST RENT, WHERE WE ENTERED THIS PROJECT TO SAY, HEY, HOW CAN WE REVITALIZE SIXTH STREET AND BRING IT BACK TO WHAT IT ONCE WAS? AND SO WE'RE FLEXIBILITY.
AND A LOT OF THIS, INCLUDING THE DENSITY THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR, FOR CITY COUNCIL TWO WEEKS AGO, UM, BUILDING THE OFFICE BUILDING ALLOW, GIVES US THE FINANCIAL MECHANISM TO HELP WORK WITH THOSE SMALLER TENANTS THAT MAYBE CAN'T AFFORD A, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHO COULD A HUNDRED DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT RENT THESE DAYS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN AUSTIN.
AND SO WE BOUGHT THAT AND IT'S JUST HOW THE DENSITY THERE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ALLOWS US TO OFFSET OTHER DIFFERENT, UM, ITEMS, INCLUDING THE LOWER RENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR AS FAR AS LIVE MUSIC.
I THINK THE FOURTH STREET, UM, PROJECT THAT RECENTLY CAME BEFORE THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A, I MEAN, THAT WAS A REALLY TENSE SITUATION FOR AUSTIN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR LGBTQ COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW THAT, UH, SO ONE THING THAT, UM, I THINK IS INSTRUCTIVE FROM THAT IS HOW, UM, THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY SUBSIDIZED LONG LEASES.
UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMISSION FOR OUR, FOR OUR VENUES, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP, YOU MENTIONED THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, THE MUSIC VENUE ALLIANCE, UM, BLACK AUSTIN MUSICIANS, COLLECTIVE, UM, AND OTHER GROUPS.
AND I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT ONE THING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECOGNIZED IN AUSTIN IS THAT WE HAVE VERY FEW MUSIC VENUES CURRENTLY THERE ARE OWNED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND THAT'S, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT LIMITS OPPORTUNITIES IN SO MANY WAYS.
UM, BUT, UH, THE CITY HAS DONE A REAL, A LOT OF WORK IN TERMS OF TALKING WITH VENUES, UM, BASING, UM, SUPPORT, PANDEMIC SUPPORT ON, UH, YOU KNOW, TRAINING WORKSHOPS AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY IS BEING WELCOMING TO ALL TYPES OF AUDIENCES AND PEOPLE, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY FACING SOME OF SOME TOUGH ISSUES HEAD ON.
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SO, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR GROUP AS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TENANTS AND, AND TAKING SOME INSTRUCTION FROM THE CITY ON HOW TO DO BETTER WITH THAT.UM, ALSO I TOUCHED ON, UM, ADC EARLIER IN THE CULTURAL TRUST, UH, THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
AND SO, SO MUCH OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH, I MEAN, WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE REAL ESTATE NEEDS, IT'S LIKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR IN NEED UH IT'S TO SUBSIDIZE REAL ESTATE COSTS.
SO I THINK THAT THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING KEY FOR, FOR US AS A COMMISSION TO SEE, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, OFFERING SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOUSING AND HOW IT'S, UH, NOT POSSIBLY NOT AN APPROPRIATE AREA FOR HOUSING, BECAUSE IT'S AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE WORKSHOP A LITTLE BIT.
UM, IF, IF PEOPLE ARE IN SEARCH OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND YOU HAVE ALL THIS SPACE, UM, IT'S, I MEAN, THE NEED HERE IS CRUSHING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MUSICIANS AND MUSIC WORKERS.
I MEAN, WE COULD ALMOST THINK OF THESE AS LIVE WORKSPACES.
AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW, UM, THAT COULD BE HANDLED IN A MORE VISIONARY WAY.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, SO I ALSO WANTED TO, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE PARKING, UM, THAT DOES TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE.
WE DO, I THINK, UH, IN THE CITY, I DON'T THINK, I JUST KNOW LIKE PARKING MINIMUMS OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE TIME.
UM, SO HOW, AND THE FACT THAT PARKING IT'S IT'S PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED PLACES TO PUT CARS, BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON A MORE ROBUST TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS AND TRYING TO CONCENTRATE, CONCENTRATE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DENSITY, THAT REALLY IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS, IS TO REDUCE SPRAWL.
IT'S NOT, IT'S OFTEN TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOUSING, NOT SO MUCH OFFICE SPACE.
SO, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT CONVERSATION WITH PARKING MINIMUMS, AND, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW, LIKE, IF THERE COULD BE YOUR TEAM COULD LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR PARKING DOWNTOWN.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
LIKE IT'S AN ARCHITECTURAL AND A FINANCE PARKING, LESS PARKING ANYWAY IS ONE OF THOSE WE THOUGHT THROUGH THAT.
AND SO FOR AS FAR AS MULTIFAMILY GOES, SO AROUND US, IT HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED, UH, OVER ON FIFTH STREET, THE TWO BLOCKS ON FIFTH STREET THAT WE SAY THE OLD CARMELO'S AND ALSO THE AVE WAFS, THOSE ARE BOTH GOING TO BE APARTMENT LIKE MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
AND THEN SO ACROSS ALSO ON SEVENTH STREET, ACROSS STREETS AND HOMELESS SHELTER THAT LARGE, UM, UH, PARKING LOT, RIGHT THERE IS ALSO GONNA BE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.
AND SO LARGE HIGH RISE MULTI-FAMILY.
SO OUR BIGGEST WORRY WAS THESE PARKING GROUNDS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THOSE ASSETS AROUND US, THAT ALL THE PARKING IS ALMOST BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR HIGH RISE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.
THAT SINCE THEY'RE ALL GOING, BE EXCLUSIVELY HOUSING, WHICH IS AMAZING, ALL OF THOSE PARKING GARAGE, WE FULL AT NIGHT.
AND SO WE JUST WORRY ABOUT THE TRANSIENCE OF EVERYBODY COMING IN.
I'D LOVE FOR THEM TO BE A MULTIMODAL AND FINDING OUT A UNIQUE WAY TO PUT THEM HERE.
UM, BUT ALSO WANTED TO BE REALLY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT IF WE'RE TAKING AWAY ALL THESE PARKING ABILITIES AND PARKING OPTIONS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE REPLACING THEM WITH SOMETHING, JUST SO WE DON'T SEE A SHORTAGE OF, UM, OTHER ADDITIONAL OPTIONS DOWN THERE.
SO THAT'S JUST, AGAIN, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, AND I MEAN, THE OTHER ISSUE, I THINK THAT, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE WITH PARKING GARAGES IS THAT THEY, THEY TAKE, I MEAN, THEY INCREASE HEIGHT THAT VISUALLY THEY'RE NOT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE A REALLY GORGEOUS PARKING GARAGE, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S AN AESTHETIC ISSUE.
UM, AND I COMPLETELY AGREE ALL THE PARKING THAT WE PROPOSE TO SUBTERRANEAN.
AND SO IT'LL ALL BE ABOVE GRADE, BELOW GRADE.
SO WE WON'T HAVE, BECAUSE I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME PROJECTS THAT CAME UP RECENTLY, NO NAMES, BUT YOU DO FEEL LIKE IT'S 12 STORIES OF A WALL BECAUSE YOU'RE USING METAL PANELS AND THERE'S NOTHING REALLY ON THE STREETS, LIKE ON THE STREET.
AND IT WAS EMILY LITTLE WAS THE ONE WHO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS LIKE, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT STREETSCAPE AND SKYLINE DIFFERENTLY, LIKE YOUR EXPERIENCE ON THE STREET.
IT'S ALMOST RUINED WITH THESE HIGH RISE, PARKING GARAGE AS BEING SO ENORMOUS.
AND IT ALMOST FEELS OVERWHELMING.
UM, AND SO THE WAY TO REALLY RESPECTFULLY DO THAT WOULD BE, UM, JUST DOING ALL SUBTERRANEAN PARKING.
THAT WOULD DEFINITELY, I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
UM, SO, AND THEN, SO SPEAKING OF THE HIGH, I DID WANT, COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT LIKE TALKING ABOUT PRESERVING THE FACADE, LIKE HOW MUCH OF THE BUILDING IS, WILL ACTUALLY BE PRESERVED AND WHAT WILL THE HEIGHT OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION BE? SO THE HEIGHT WE'RE RESTRICTED BY THE CAPITOL VIEW QUARTER ON BOTH SIDES.
AND SO AS FAR AS THE PRESERVATION OF THE FACADES,
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I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT YET BECAUSE ONE THING WE WANTED TO BE REALLY SURE OF IS WE'VE HAD A FEW MEETINGS WITH HISTORIC LANDMARK, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ANYWAY, THEIR STAFF HAS BEEN FANTASTIC ABOUT HELPING US, BUT THEY REALLY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING AND GIVE US EXACT FACADES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE KEY CABINETS OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT WAY UNTIL THE CITY COUNCIL CAME AND PUSHED OUR PROJECT FORWARD.AND SO THAT HAPPENED TWO WEEKS AGO.
SO WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH THEM ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK, BECAUSE BEFORE WE WENT AND DESIGNED THIS BUILDING, WE DIDN'T WANT TO APPROACH ONE THING THAT WAS VERY ON THE FOREFRONT OF ALL OF OUR MIND IS YOU DON'T WANT TO GO AND SHOVE A PROJECT DOWN SOMEBODY'S THROAT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE.
AND WE ARE UNWILLING AND UNWAVERING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
AND SO WE WANT IT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF WHAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY WHAT HISTORIC LANDMARK LIKE DEEMS IS WORTH PRESERVING, WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF EVERYTHING.
BUT ALSO SINCE THIS IS A HIGH RISE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE SEEING NOT EXACTLY HUGE, THAT WE'VE NOT IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN DOWNTOWN, BUT IT'S, IT'S A TALLER BUILDING THAN WHAT WE SEE IN THAT DISTRICT, BESIDES THE HILTON GARDEN INN AND FIFTH AND SABINE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK OUT OF PLACE AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, AND WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT.
SO WITH THAT, I CONSIDER THIS A WORKSHOP WITH HISTORIC LANDMARK, UM, NOT SO MUCH OF LIKE, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, TAKE IT.
WE WANT TO GO AND GET IT PAST.
SO WE'D DEFINITELY LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, FIND OUT MORE ABOUT HOW THAT, THOSE CONVERSATIONS PROGRESS AND I MEAN, ANY, ANYTHING REALLY DETAILED YOU CAN BRING TO US IN TERMS OF LIKE, OKAY, HERE'S THE PRESERVING THIS MUCH OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN HERE'S, WHAT'S BEHIND IT.
AND, AND WHAT, UM, I KNOW THAT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE OLD AND THEY NEED, THEY'RE PROBABLY MOST OF THEM ARE IN NEED OF RENOVATION.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH CAN BE PRESERVED AND HOW MUCH THE, AS YOU'VE SAID, THE STREETSCAPE IS GONNA CHANGE BECAUSE THAT AREA LIKE VISUALLY, I THINK IS SO ICONIC.
WHENEVER YOU SEE ANYTHING ABOUT AUSTIN, YOU SEE LIKE PICTURES OF SOUTH CONGRESS AND YOU SEE PHOTOS OF SIXTH STREET.
AND IF THAT WERE TO CHANGE IN A WAY THAT'S DRAMATIC, UM, AND MAKES THE AREA, YOU KNOW, LESS ICONIC.
I MEAN, THAT'S, IT'S THAT'S LEVEL JUST KIND OF HEARTBREAKING, YOU KNOW, AND ON ANOTHER LEVEL, JUST THE MATH OF IT IS THAT IT MAKES THE AREA LESS OF AN ECONOMIC DRIVER, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF OUR T YOU KNOW, TOURISM DOLLARS COULD BE LOST IF PEOPLE COULD JUST AS WELL GO TO AN AREA THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE THAT IN SALT LAKE CITY OR ST.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE ON, BUT I KNOW OTHER COMMISSIONERS MAY JUST ACTUALLY DO GO AHEAD AND JUMP IN JUST A FOLLOWUP QUESTION TOO, AROUND THE SAME POINT.
UM, DID THAT AFFECT, LIKE, IF YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE MORE TO WHAT SYNERGIES OR WHAT COMMUNICATION, UH, DO YOU GUYS HAVE WITH WHAT THE, WITH THE SURROUNDING DISTRICTS, RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, WHAT IS THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THEM AT THIS POINT? UM, OR WHAT DO YOU FORESEE? ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAD THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS SINCE WE STARTED THIS PROJECT.
UH, CODY, CALVIN IS UNBELIEVABLE.
HE AND RYAN GARRETT, THEY HAVE BOTH BEEN WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH US.
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE, UM, THEY'RE FACING SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT SIXTH STREET HAS BEEN FACING.
SO I AM ALSO THE, UM, UH, CHAIRMAN OR PRESIDENT.
I CAME TO SAY OF THE SIXTH STREET OWNERSHIP BOARD.
SO THERE'S NOT AN OWNER DOWN THERE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO.
UM, AND SO, AND JUST HEARING ALL OF THE ISSUES LIKE THEY'RE HAVING MAIN ISSUES WITH CRIME AND VIOLENCE DOWN THERE, JUST LIKE THE SIXTH STREET OWNERS ARE.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN CONJUNCTION TRYING TO FIND UNIQUE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THIS.
CAUSE IDEALLY, I MEAN, I KNOW FOR RIGHT NOW IT'S RED RIVER AND SIXTH STREET.
IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE THERE SHOULDN'T BE, SO IT SHOULDN'T BE DISJOINTED.
LIKE IT ALMOST SEE LIKE SIX AND RED SIX AND RED RIVER SHOULD REALLY COME TOGETHER INTO FORMING AN ICONIC MUSIC DISTRICT.
AND THE MUSIC HUB, WHEN PEOPLE THINK MUSIC IN AUSTIN, THEY SHOULD THINK SIX IN RED RIVER BECAUSE RED RIVER HAS A LOT OF SMALLER VENUES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESERVED.
THEY HAVE STUBS, WHICH IS JUST INCREDIBLE.
AND SO WITH US, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS SUCH A NATIONAL TO YOUR POINT SYNERGY IN THAT WAY.
AND SO WITH US, WE'RE COMING THROUGH TRYING TO FIND UNIQUE IDEAS, BECAUSE I KNOW A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES ON RED RIVER ARE ALSO CHANGING, BUT YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO CHANGE WHERE IT'S ALL OF A SUDDEN UNRECOGNIZABLE.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE PARTNERING ON THAT AND FINDING UNIQUE WAYS, BUT IT'S ALSO, I THINK, GOING TO BE, UM, A DISCUSSION WITH CITY STAFF OF KIND OF FINDING A WAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE, HOW DO THE SIDEWALKS LOOK ON SIXTH STREET? OKAY.
IF THE SIDEWALKS ARE GONNA LOOK THIS, DO WE STRETCH THEM DOWN RED RIVER? LIKE WHAT, WHAT CAN YOU DO TO REALLY COMBINE THOSE TWO SUBSECTIONS OF DISTRICT TO MAKE IT AT A NATIONAL, LIKE A NATURAL WALKING PATH AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, THE NATURAL PROGRESSION IS YOU SEE SIXTH STREET AND THEN YOU SEE IT GOING DOWN RED RIVER AND THIS WAY AND MAKING IT NOT SO PIECEMEAL.
SO WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE, UH, THESE ENTITIES LIKE MUSIC WHEN YOU ALLIANCE.
AND SO OUR, OUR CD, UH, UH, SO WHAT WOULD THE, WOULD THE MUSIC WHEN HE IS, UM, ON, ON THE SIXTH
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STREET BSA, A PART OF, UH, WHAT IS, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO BE A PART OF THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT OVERALL, OR ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THAT FRONT? UM, SO AS FAR AS THE MUSIC, THEN YOU ON SIX TO BE A PART OF RED RIVER CULTURAL YEAH.JUST AS PART OF THAT WHOLE UNIT, BECAUSE YEAH, I THINK WE COULD ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION YET, BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY SEEM VERY DISJOINTED, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S JUST LIKE RED, YOU KNOW, RED, REVEREND SIXTH STREET HAVE NEVER REALLY COME TOGETHER.
I MEAN, I'M SAYING THAT I COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG, UM, BUT COME TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THOSE TWO TO COMBINE, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE SAME, UH, GOALS THAT WE HAVE ON SIXTH STREET, RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT IS ALSO FACING, AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES ON THAT STREET AS WELL.
AND SO SEEING THAT NATURAL PROGRESSION, I THINK WOULD BE INCREDIBLE, BUT LIKE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY APPROACHED IT YET BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DESIGN AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIT AS MUCH LIVE MUSIC ON HERE AS POSSIBLE? IT'S AN EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE ON THE FOREFRONT OF RIGHT NOW.
AND SO MAKING THIS A SPECIAL DISTRICT, SO IT'S WORKING TOGETHER IN THAT WAY.
I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
I WAS JUST, YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS TAGGING ONTO WHAT AND REALITY WAS SAYING IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE, UM, MUSIC VENUES ON SIXTH AND THEN RED RIVER, THE AMONGST THEM OF THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY ARE SUCH A CRITICAL PART OF OUR ECOSYSTEM.
SO IT, IT MAKES SENSE THAT THERE ARE KIND OF SYNERGIES ACROSS THE BOAT WHERE, UH, AND THEN POSSIBLY, UM, I JUST, ONE MORE QUESTION, THEN I'LL HAND IT BACK TO YOU TO HAVE THE DOOR TO YOURSELF OR SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO, UM, UM, THERE IS, OF COURSE WE HAVE HAD DEEP CONVERSATIONS ON THIS COMMISSION AROUND, UH, UH, EDI, EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, UM, AND A LOT OF THESE, UM, AREAS HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, HAVE BEEN MORE DIVERSE THAN WHAT THEY ARE TODAY.
UH, AND, UH, I KNOW THAT YOU WILL, I GUESS YOU TALKED ABOUT ENGAGEMENT ON THAT FRONT FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND OTHER, UM, OTHER, UH, INTERESTS.
UM, BUT I'M CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT HAS THE CONVERSATION, UH, AND DECISIONS AROUND IF ANY, UH, AROUND DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND BEING ABLE TO REFLECT THAT, UH, IN, IN THIS NEW, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SET UP, UH, WHAT HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT HAS BEEN SO FAR, LIKE, AND WHAT, WHAT DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MIRRORING OR, OR PLANS HAVE BEEN MADE AROUND THOSE? SO WE DIVERSIFY.
SO WE FOCUSED THAT WAS ONE OF OUR MAJOR ISSUES ABOUT WHY WE WANTED TO PUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ARTWORK ON THE STREET, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY INCLUSION, THIS STREET HAS ALWAYS BEEN DIVERSE.
LIKE IT'S JUST SINCE ITS INCEPTION, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A MELTING POT OF, OF AUSTIN BUSINESSES.
AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE THE CULTURE OF AUSTIN KIND OF CAME TO FRUITION.
UM, AND SO IT'S ALSO WHAT WE WANT TO SIT AT FIRST, WE WERE MORE, WE WANTED TO CONCERN ABOUT AUSTIN PAST, RIGHT? AND WANT TO REALLY HONOR, UM, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE, UM, THE CARRINGTON HOUSE AT 5 22 EAST SIX IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PROPERTY.
IT WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN OWNED PROPERTY IN AUSTIN.
AND SO IDENTIFYING THAT, AND, BUT ALSO JUST IF YOU, IF YOU WALKED BY IT NOW, YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW UNLESS YOU WENT AND LOOKED IT UP AND FINDING DIFFERENT WAYS TO REALLY SPONSOR WHAT YOU, WHAT IT USED TO BE IN SOME ICONIC PROJECTS THAT WERE, HAVE BEEN HERE.
UM, BUT ALSO IT WAS IN THAT WAY, TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY INCLUSION ABOUT HOW WE GO.
IT'S JUST, I THINK IT JUST COMES WITH THE ECLECTIC VERSION OF MUSIC WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT.
OBVIOUSLY WE JUST GOT APPROVED TWO WEEKS AGO TO GO FROM CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PROCESS.
SO A LOT OF THIS IS STILL EVOLVING AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS IS, BUT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT HOW, JUST THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MUSIC THAT WE HAVE DOWN THERE, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT, ECLECTIC AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEASE TO.
AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING AS WE CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATIONS, WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON AS WE COME DOWN THERE.
BUT, UH, SO I'M, I'M EXCITED TO KIND OF BRING IT TO GREAT.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE ARE SOME TANGIBLE EFFORTS TO, IN TERMS OF, UM, ACTUALLY DIVERSIFYING, UH, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF MUSICAL GENRES, BUT LIKE OWNERSHIP AND THE LEASING AND VENUE LEASING, ET CETERA.
UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THAT.
DOES, DOES ANYBODY ONLINE WANT TO SPEAK? UH, YEAH, I, I JUST LIKE TO SAY, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION HAS WORKED VERY HARD ON IS WHAT CALL PI, WHICH STANDS FOR PRESERVATION, INNOVATION AND ELEVATION.
AND WHEN WE APPLIED PI, WE APPLY IT TO ALL THE DIVERSITY THAT THERE IS IN AUSTIN.
AND WHAT I CAN SEE FROM YOUR PRESENTATION IS THAT YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB TALKING ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF THE HISTORY, THE BUILDINGS, THE HISTORY OF GREAT MUSIC ON SIXTH STREET.
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AND AS YOU SHOULD, IT'S GOOD BUSINESS.AND I ALSO WOULD SAY THAT WHEN, UH, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BY ALL MEANS, BRING IN THE, UH, INNOVATION TYPES OF MUSICAL GENRES, KEEPING IT SO THAT, UM, IT'S NOT JUST A BUNCH OF COVER BANDS THAT APPEAL TO TOURISTS IN AUSTIN, BUT REALLY SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT INNOVATES AND, UM, THE ELEVATION PIECE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CULTURES.
I JUST WANT TO UNDERSCORE WHAT, UM, UH, WHAT VOLUMES SAID THAT, THAT IT'S NOT JUST HAVING MURALS, UH, CELEBRATING HISTORICAL, UH, UH, OWNERSHIP OF DIVERSE COMMUNITIES, HAVING REAL OWNERSHIP TODAY OF DIVERSE COMMUNITIES.
THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE.
I ALWAYS THINK, I ALWAYS SAID THAT I CONSIDER MYSELF SUCCESSFUL WHEN A LOCAL AUSTINITE SAYS, I'M GOING TO GO GET DINNER AND GO SEE A SHOW ON SIXTH STREET.
CAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S NEARLY ENOUGH OF LOCAL AUSTINITES WHO HAVE REALLY COME BACK TO THIS DISTRICT AS OF YET.
AND IT'S, UM, VERY MUCH FOCUSED TOWARD, TOWARDS, SO I COMPLETELY AGREE.
I, I THINK THAT, UM, UH, YEAH.
UM, SO W WHEN, WHEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE PIECE OF IT, THE PI SIDE OF IT, PRESERVATION INNOVATION ELEVATION PART OF IT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN COMING UP WITH, UH, IN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND IS TRYING TO BASICALLY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PAY HOMAGE AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND KIND OF PRESERVE, YOU KNOW, A CULTURE THAT REALLY TRUTHFULLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE BUILT THIS CITY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART ON FREE LABOR.
AND, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE MENTIONED, UH, CODY COWAN AND HOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING TOGETHER.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING AGAINST, UM, CODY IN PARTICULAR AT ALL, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IN HIS WORKING PROCESSES, ME BEING INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH HIM INITIALLY WITH LIVE MUSIC FUND, UM, THINGS INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, CODY IS VERY MUCH A NUMBERS GUY.
IT'S VERY MUCH A, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, GENERATE REVENUE, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO DO THIS, THEN IT'S OUT.
AND THAT'S MOSTLY, YOU KNOW, WHY, YOU KNOW, IN RED RIVER, YOU DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF MUSICIANS DOING MOSTLY ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, KIDS IN THEIR TWENTIES AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE IN THEIR THIRTIES OR WHATNOT.
AND, UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S A LOT OF ROCK MUSIC.
IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH GUITARS AND IT'S NOT REALLY GIVING WAY TO A LOT OF, UH, DIFFERENT CULTURES, DIFFERENT, UM, TYPES OF MUSIC THAT ARE VERY MUCH PREVALENT IN, IN MAINSTREAM CULTURE.
UM, UH, RED RIVER IS NOT ONE OF THOSE, UM, IN MY EXPERIENCE AND, AND, AND, AND THE DATA CAN SHOW THIS THAT WOULD CATER TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IN THAT, UM, I WOULD, UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH SHAKA.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH, UM, UH, MOBILY BLACK AUSTIN MUSICIANS, COLLECTIVE SHAKA WITH DAWA, UM, TO PERHAPS TAKE A MEETING WITH EQR AUSTIN, UM, AND AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS, JUST KIND OF TALKING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THESE, THESE, THESE SPACES EXIST TO SUP TO DIRECTLY SOLVE, UH, SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS YOU, UM, MENTIONED ARTWORK ALSO, UM, ONE OF THE, UH, TWEETS THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, MOBILY RECORDING ARTISTS, UM, PUT OUT, I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO OR SOMETHING.
IT WAS JUST A TWEET, BUT, UM, HE SAID THAT THERE ARE SO MANY TALENTED PEOPLE IN AUSTIN.
THERE ARE SO MANY TALENTED ARTISTS IN AUSTIN.
THERE ARE SO MANY TALENTED BLACK ARTISTS IN AUSTIN.
AND I WOULD SAY, I WOULD KIND OF EXPAND THAT TO SAY ANYONE WITHOUT LIKE A BLUE CHECK NEXT TO THEIR NAME, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S VERY HARD TO, YOU KNOW, FOR A MUSICIAN THAT'S UP AND COMING TO, UM, UM, KIND OF MAKE THEIR WAY KNOWN OR MAKE THEIR NAME KNOWN, OR GET THEIR BREAD OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND CHARLOTTE, YOU SET THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR BRAND IS YOUR HEART, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT.
AND, AND THE PEOPLE OVER HERE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE THOSE BOOTS X AND THEY'RE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE TOURING AND DOING ALL THE REALLY GREAT THINGS.
THEY'VE WORKED REALLY HARD AT THAT, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS ARTISTS PARTICULARLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE IN THOSE REALLY, TRULY INDIE ARTISTS, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS, UM, MAYBE WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION, OR MAYBE I COULD RECOMMEND, UM, UH, SOMEONE THAT YOU COULD SPEAK TO, UH, IN REGARDS TO PUTTING LOCAL ART, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IN,
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IN, IN THE ESTABLISHMENT STATE THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH SO THAT WE CAN GET THESE MUSICIANS, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST MUSICIANS, BUT ARTISTS, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTS, GET THEM PAID, GET THEM COMMISSIONS, UM, SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND THEY'RE BEING REVITALIZED, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT'S BEING THOUGHT ABOUT, AND THAT'S AT THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AT THE FOREFRONT, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, DEVELOPED MORE, UM, AS WELL.
I THINK THIS PRESENTS THE PRESENTATION SOLID.
UM, THE, THE ONE THING THAT YOU MENTIONED IS THAT THERE, AS FAR AS LIKE A MUSIC VENUE GOES, IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE DOWNTOWN TO HAVE A MUSIC VENUE.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT I, AND I WOULD MET WITH THAT, UM, A LOT, HOWEVER, UM, AND IT'S KIND OF GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND SEEING WHAT'S POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, I, UH, I AM OF THE BELIEF THAT IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
YOU KNOW, I, I STILL BELIEVE IN THAT OLD WAYNE'S WORLD ADAGE OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, IF, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE THE EFFORT, IF YOU CAN DO SOMETHING, YOU COULD DO IT.
AND, AND THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE ON THAT STREET ON SIXTH STREET, YOU HAVE, UM, UH, PARAMOUNT, UM, WHICH W I GUESS IT'S ON 66 IN CONGRESS, AND THEN YOU HAVE STATE SIDE, YOU'VE GOT, PARAMOUNT'S 1200 OCCUPANCY, STATE SIDE IS 300 OCCUPIED, REAL, FIVE OCCUPANCY.
YOU'VE GOT MOHAWK, UM, THAT'S ON RED RIVER AS WELL.
UM, BUT I, I, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME OTHER TYPE OF VENUE DOWNTOWN FOR MUSICIANS TO HAVE THAT AS A LISTENING ROOM, THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY GO IN AND LISTEN TO EITHER A BAND OR AN ACOUSTIC ARTIST, OR A COUNTRY ARTIST, OR A RAP ARTIST, OR HIP HOP, SOME, SOME, SOME KIND OF NOMENCLATURE LIKE THAT TO WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NICE TO HAVE THAT GUARANTEE AND JUST, AND JUST PLAYING MUSIC AT A RESTAURANT.
THAT'S GREAT, BUT NO, ONE'S LISTENING TO YOU.
IT'S JUST A GUARANTEED, IT'S PAYING THE RENT, RIGHT? LIKE, THERE'S THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY INVESTED IN A SPACE.
THAT'S A LISTENING, SOME KIND OF A LISTENING ROOM OR SOME KIND OF VENUE OF SOME SORT, MAYBE IT'S 300 OCCUPANTS, MAYBE NOT, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNION.
MAYBE IT'S NOT, HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT CUNY.
UM, BUT, UM, HEY, SCOTT, ARE, WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER ON THE ITEM THAT HAS TO LEAVE, SO WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT THOUGHT AND ALL OF THE, I MEAN, SO MANY DETAILS, AND THESE ARE GREAT IDEAS.
I WOULD LOVE IF YOU COULD CONNECT THAT 10, CAITLIN'S GOTTA BE SOMEWHERE TOO.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO INVITE TERRY MYERS.
UM, I'M GOING TO LET YOU ALL TO OUT.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S, GOD'S POINTED IT OUT AND, AND VOLLEY, LIKE, THERE'S SO MANY DETAILS TO BE WORKED OUT HERE.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE A ROBUST AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCEDURAL WAY.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO TERRY MYERS FROM IS THE CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.
AND SHE'S HERE TO HELP US ALL UNDERSTAND ABOUT CITY PROCESS ON THIS, PARTICULARLY WITH HISTORIC PROPERTIES, TERRY'S BEEN ON THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION FOR OVER 10 YEARS, SO SHE CAN DEFINITELY SCHOOL US.
UM, SO YEAH, TELL US WHAT'S AND REALLY ONLY 27, BUT THIS IS SERVING ON THE COMMISSION HAS DONE TO ME THESE MANY YEARS, AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF ENOUGH.
THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR REMINDING ME ABOUT EVERYBODY.
I'M SORT OF WEDGING THIS IN BETWEEN, BETWEEN OTHER MEETINGS TODAY.
I THINK I AM, UM, I AM TERRY MYERS.
I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, BUT I'M NOT REALLY SPEAKING AS A LANDMARK COMMISSIONER SO MUCH AS I'M, I'M A ROCK AND ROLL MANIAC AT HEART.
I WROTE MY MASTER'S THESIS ON PUNK ROCK MUSIC AS THE SAVIOR OF ROCK AND ROLL, DESPITE MY MILD MANNERED, UH, LOOK AND DEMEANOR THESE DAYS.
I LOVE LIVE MUSIC AND, UM, UH, I'VE, I'VE SEEN, UM, SIXTH STREET EVOLVE OR DEVOLVE AS SOMETIMES UP SOMETIMES DOWN OVER THE MANY YEARS, BUT, UM, ONE THING THAT, THAT CONCERNS ME, UH, LIKE YOU, I THINK IS THAT LIVE MUSIC, UM, THE RENTS HAVE GONE SO HIGH, IT'S PUSHED A LOT OF MUSICIANS OUT AND PUSHED LIVE MUSIC VENUES OUT.
AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THIS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THAT IT WILL, UM, EXACERBATE THAT, UH, THAT SITUATION BY, UM, THIS WILL BE AN, YOU KNOW, AN UPSCALE TYPE OF OFFICE CONSTRUCTION.
AND WILL THEY REALLY, UM, BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE,
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YOU KNOW, THE, THE MUSICIANS AND VENUES THAT, THAT WE WOULD, I THINK THAT, THAT WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE, UM, BACK ON SIXTH STREET AND, AND IN OUR CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I, I FEEL LIKE, UH, THIS IS A CITY THAT, UM, LABELED ITSELF AS THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, AND THEN WENT ON TO PRICE OUT, UM, LIVE MUSIC, UM, OUT OF THE CITY.BUT A CONCERN THAT WE HAD ABOUT THIS ONE THING IS WE, UM, UH, STREAM AND RICHARD SUTTLE CAME TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION EARLIER.
AND I THINK IT WAS JUNE 1ST WAS OUR LAST MEETING AND SORT OF, DIDN'T GIVE US AS, UM, COMPLETE, UH, A PRESENTATION AS CAITLYN DID HERE TODAY.
BUT WE, UM, WE FELT LIKE THE, THIS SORT OF THING GOES THROUGH A PROCESS, A SORT OF VETTING PROCESS AND THEN A WORKING RELATIONSHIP TO TRY TO MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES FOLLOWS THE GUIDELINES THAT WE FOLLOW, WHICH ARE THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR, UM, RENOVATION, REHABILITATION, RESTORATION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
THIS IS ALREADY A NATIONAL RIGID, REGISTERED HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE PROPOSED TO US, OUR DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS, UM, THAT MAY NOT BE, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED CONTRIBUTING TO THE DISTRICT BACK IN THE 1970S WHEN IT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED, BUT STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED.
AND OUR WAY OF LOOKING AT BUILDINGS HAS CHANGED.
PRESERVATION IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT HIGH STYLE, UM, AS IT IS ABOUT AUTHENTICITY AND OTHER PARTS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN ARE TO JUST SAVE THE FACADES OF SOME OF THE MOST HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND EITHER GUT THE BUILDING OR DEMOLISH IT ALTOGETHER.
SO THAT JUST THE FACADES ARE STANDING.
SOME OF US CALL THIS FACADE TUMMY, AND, UH, IT'S NOT WHEN AS A HISTORIC BUILDING NO LONGER A HISTORIC BUILDING, WELL MAYBE WHEN IT JUST HAS A FACADE LEFT, UM, OTHER, UH, ASPECTS, WE, WE FELT, UH, WE FELT SOMEWHAT, UM, BLINDSIDED BY, UM, BY STREAM GOING TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL AND GETTING APPROVAL ON FIRST READING FOR THIS PLAN, UM, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT THEY USUALLY DO WITH LANDMARK COMMISSION.
SO WE GOT OUR NOSES OUT OF JOINT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE DO I THINK HAVE VERY VALID CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT'S PROPOSED.
ARE WE JUST GOING TO HAVE A ROW OF FACADES AND THEN THIS, YOU KNOW, VERY HIGH, VERY, UM, OVERWHELMING, UH, SORT OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, BEHIND IT.
WHAT IS THIS GOING TO DO TO, UM, PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS? WILL IT STILL CONVEY A SENSE OF HISTORY? AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK, UM, UH, IS IT MR. ROSENTHAL UP THERE AND, UH, IN SQUARE NUMBER THREE OR WHATEVER ON THE, ON THE BOARD? I THINK WE, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN A SENSE OF AUTHENTICITY, A SENSE OF HISTORY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE WHERE WE'RE NOT AT ALL IN FAVOR OF, OF, UM, HAVING AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT.
WE, WE WANT, WE DON'T WANT, UM, THE KIND OF THING THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED ON SIXTH STREET TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.
UM, BUT WE THINK THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER WAYS TO DO THIS BESIDES GETTING THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND BUILDING HIGH RISE, UM, OFFICE BUILDINGS.
UM, I HAVE A FEAR THAT THIS MAY ACTUALLY BE, UM, DELETERIOUS TO THE HISTORIC USES AND THE HISTORIC COLOR AND THE HISTORIC FLAVOR AND THE HISTORIC SENSE OF PLACE THAT, UM, THAT E-CIG STREET HAS, HAS BEEN FOR THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD ONE LAST THING I HAVE TO RUN.
UM, HERITAGE TOURISM IS THE SINGLE LARGEST ATTRACTION TO TOURISTS, MORE THAN PROFESSIONAL BALL TEAMS, MORE THAN BIG CONCERTS OR FESTIVALS, PEOPLE WHO GO TO SEE HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN HISTORIC BATTLEFIELDS, UM, STAY LONGER, SPEND MORE MONEY, AND DON'T, UH, DON'T DESTROY, UH, AREAS.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE BIG, UM,
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WE DON'T HAVE TO PICK UP AFTER THEM SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE, UM, WHEN THEIR VISIT IS DONE AND KEEPING MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF, UH, EAST SIXTH STREET, I THINK IS IMPORTANT, NOT JUST FOR PRESERVATIONISTS.WE, WE DO REVERE THE PAST AND ARCHITECTURE, BUT WE DON'T LIVE IN THE PAST.
UM, WE WANT TO SEE SIXTH STREET SUCCEED AND CONTINUE TO BE A VITAL PART OF OUR DOWNTOWN CHARACTER AND FABRIC.
BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS A, UH, PROCESS.
WE WERE NOT, UM, WHEN MS. KAITLIN MENTIONED THAT, UM, THAT THEY WANTED TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION TO, TO POINT OUT THE FACADES THAT, UM, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SAVE.
WE DIDN'T GET THAT AT OUR MEETING.
UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT KIND OF INTERACTION WITH, UH, WITH THE, UM, OWNERS OF THE, OF THE AREA.
AND WE THINK THAT THAT GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION IS IMPORTANT TO SAVING WHAT IS REALLY WORTH SAVING IN, UM, IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO, UM, I, I SORT OF HAVE TO RUN, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION I'VE GOT SCOTT, UH, I, I WATCHED YOUR COMMISSION, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING.
I THINK HE HAD A COUPLE OF THEM.
UM, PERHAPS I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT.
UM, THE, UH, THE IN REGARDS TO, UH, THE FOUR, I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS, IS KIND OF A QUESTION THAT I HAVE ABOUT, UH, THE DECISION THAT YOU ALL MADE ON THE FOURTH STREET, UH, UH, FACADE KIND OF THING TO, TO, TO KNOCK DESIGNATE, UM, UM, UH, HISTORICAL, UM, UH, STANDING FOR THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE GAY COMMUNITY.
THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT AND, AND GUT WRENCHING, UM, THING THAT HAPPENED WITH FOURTH STREET, FOURTH STREET IS NOT A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IT'S NOT A DESIGNATED NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, AND YOU MAY BE SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT SIXTH STREET, ISN'T A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PREVENT, UM, NEW CONSTRUCTION OR DEMOLITIONS TO ANY BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T INDIVIDUAL LANDMARKS.
AND SO WHEN FOURTH STREET CAME UP, WE HAVE VIRTUALLY NO AUTHORITY.
UM, IT WAS, UH, WE WERE TRYING TO, TO WORK WITH THE OWNERS AND, AND IT WAS JUST HEARTBREAKING TO SEE, UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE REMOVAL OF THE, UM, TRADITIONALLY, UH, LGBTQ COMMUNITY ON, UH, WEST FOURTH STREET AT OUR DECISION KEY VIEW, I THINK, GOT IT WRONG.
THEY SAID WE DENIED HISTORIC ZONING.
WE POSTPONED A DECISION INDEFINITELY, WHICH IS KIND OF A COP OUT, BUT WE KNEW THAT IF WE TRIED TO DESIGNATE THE DISTRICT AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT WHEN IT WENT TO, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, IT WOULD GO DOWN.
WE, UM, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A STRONG WILL TO SUPPORT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
UM, IN MY, UH, IN MY 32 YEARS IN AUSTIN, THEY HAVE ONLY, UM, DESIGNATED APPROVED OUR RECOMMENDATION TO DESIGNATE LANDMARKS OVER THE OBJECTION OF OWNERS IN ONLY THREE CASES.
ONE OF WHICH WAS THE SPAGHETTI WAREHOUSE, WHICH WAS KIND OF THE START OF THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT.
WE'RE LOSING THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT NOW, BUT IN, ON EAST SIXTH STREET, THOUGH, WE DO HAVE REVIEW, UM, WE HAVE A REVIEW OVER INDIVIDUAL LANDMARKS AND WE HAVE REVIEW OVER CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
THE THING THAT WAS BINDING ON EAST STREETS, SIXTH STREET WAS THE, UM, THE DECISION TO KEEP HEIGHTS AT THREE STORIES.
AND THAT HAS BEEN, UM, THAT HAS BEEN THE, UM, THE MODEL FOR SIXTH STREET, UM, FOR THE PAST 30, 35 YEARS, UH, IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.
UH, TO, TO, TO THINGS TO THAT.
UM, WE CAN, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK MORE WITH YOU ABOUT IT LATER.
UM, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO RUN, I WILL SAY THESE TWO THINGS.
ONE IS, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY IS A VERY, VERY LIBERAL COUNTY.
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COUNTIES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART, PROBABLY IN THE COUNTRY.UM, WE HAVE A 97% VOTER REGISTRATION RATE, OR AT LEAST WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO, AND IT SEEMS KIND OF WILD TO ME THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD NOT HAVE AN INTEREST IN WANTING TO PROTECT THE GAY COMMUNITY BY DESIGNATING, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ONLY FEW BARS OR, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CITY AS, UM, JUST TO PROTECT THAT COMMUNITY.
AND AS YOU KNOW, UH, TO, TO MY SECOND POINT HERE, I EMPATHIZE WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE 1928 MASTER PLAN.
I EMPATHIZE WITH, UH, A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE NEED HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, ARE POSSIBLY BEING, UM, HAVING TO REHOME A RESETTLE OR, YOU KNOW, FIND ANOTHER, UM, AREA.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THAT.
AND YEAH, I WOULDN'T BE COMING BACK.
I WOULD BE GLAD TO COME BACK AND, AND REBEL ROUSE AGAIN SOMETIME.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT AND YEAH, THE FOURTH STREET, LIKE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY FEELS ANYBODY INVOLVED WITH THAT FEELS LIKE AMAZING ABOUT HOW THAT'S SHAKEN OUT.
UM, BUT, UM, SO THAT'S, IT WILL FORCE THE BUSINESSES OUT.
THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH OIL CAN HARRY'S TO EXTEND YOUR LEASE FOR SEVEN YEARS, BUT THE OTHER BUSINESSES WILL BE OUT.
THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FOR THIS SPACE.
UH, YEAH, THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE.
I'M GONNA JUST REPEAT WHAT TERRY SAID SINCE I'M ON MIC IN CASE IT WAS HARD FOR THE RECORDING TO PICK THAT UP, BUT THERE WILL BE A LOSS OF BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
UM, ONE CLUB HAS, HAS, HAS MANAGED TO WORK OUT A GOOD LEASE AGREEMENT AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, KATELYN AND TERRY, UM, THERE, UH, WE WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH BOTH OF YOU.
UM, BUT SO THE THING FOR US TO TAKE AWAY ON THAT, UM, AS A COMMISSION AND A WHOLE COMMUNITY IS LIKE, LET'S WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT SIXTH STREET IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, EVERYBODY FEELS, DOES FEEL AMAZING ABOUT THAT, THAT REDEVELOPMENT, AND THAT MAY, UH, THERE, THERE'S A, I FEEL LIKE A TREMENDOUS PRESSURE ON THE DEVELOPER HERE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND IT MAY, SOME OF THAT MAY LOOK LIKE LESS PROFIT FOR MORE OVERALL SUCCESS.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, AS CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, WE UNDER, I MEAN, WE UNDERSTAND THESE ARE FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES AND THE POTENTIAL PROFIT IS TREMENDOUS, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE, THE IDEA OF LONG-TERM PROCESS, YOU KNOW, PROFIT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPER OR A DEVELOPMENT TEAM DOESN'T WANT TO FIND THEMSELVES EMBROILED IN A CITY-WIDE CULTURAL CONTROVERSY.
UM, SO I THINK WE CAN APPROACH THESE THINGS REALLY POSITIVELY WITH A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST INTENT FOR PROBLEM SOLVING AND TRYING TO AVOID UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
UM, BUT, AND JUST SPEAKING ONE MORE TIME TO THE DEI, I DO WANT TO SAY, LIKE RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE IN, IN MANY WAYS, SIXTH STREET IS VERY DIVERSE.
PEOPLE THAT GO DOWN THERE, THERE ARE THEY'RE YOUNG FOR THE MOST PART, BUT IT'S NOT JUST TOURISTS.
THERE ARE, THERE'S LOTS OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BLACK PEOPLE, LATINO, WHITE, ASIAN, AND, UM, I DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN INTO A DISTRICT WHERE CERTAIN PEOPLE DON'T FEEL WELCOME, UH, AND THAT, AND MAKING PEOPLE FEEL WELCOME, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A REDEVELOPMENT, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND, UM, SO I I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE PRESENTATION.
I HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPERS UP FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SOLVE.
UM, BUT YEAH, AND FOR US, I SENSE MAYBE A WORKING GROUP COMING ON FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, AND IT MAY BE A JOINT WORKING GROUP WITH ANOTHER COMMISSION.
UH, I THINK ARTS IS GOING TO HAVE THEM COME AND PRESENT AS WELL.
UH, AND, UM, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY THAT BECOME INVOLVED.
SO THERE ARE LOTS GOING FORWARD ON THIS, UH, TO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE A FINAL COMMENT ON THIS ITEM CROOKED.
[2A. Discussion and Possible Action following overview of performance opportunities in the City by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department.]
AND WE'LL TAKE ITEM, UH, TWO A RIGHT NOW DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FALLING OVERVIEW OF PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY BY ERICA.SHOMALY A DIVISION MANAGER OF THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION EDD, HELLO, COMMISSIONERS, ERICA SHAMLEY WITH THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, UH, MANAGER, UH, WITHIN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
SO THE EASIEST WAY WE THOUGHT IS TO TAKE YOU TO THE WEB PAGE, THE NEW WEBPAGE TO SHOW HOW WE'VE CONSOLIDATED ALL
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OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES INTO ONE PAGE.AND THIS HAD STARTED WITH THE CONVERSATION WITH CPIO A FEW YEARS AGO, ABOUT HOW SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUSICIANS TO GET COMPENSATED FOR PERFORMANCES, BUT THERE WAS NO ONE PLACE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE ALL GETTING KIND OF, UH, QUESTIONS FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES IN SILOS ABOUT THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
SO NOW WHAT WE HAVE IS A WEBPAGE THAT HAS EVERYTHING HERE, AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO DEVELOP THIS PAGE IN COORDINATION WITH THE AIRPORT AT THE LIBRARY.
AND WE'LL ALSO BE INCLUDING THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HERE BY THE FALL, UH, FOR THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST FOR MUSICIANS TO GET PAID, TO PERFORM.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST CLICK DOWN ON THE PROCLAMATIONS AS ONE EXAMPLE.
SO HERE IS, UH, THIS IS KIND OF AN ACCORDION WEBPAGE, SO YOU CAN CLICK ON EACH OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW TO GET INVOLVED IN HOW TO GET TO CONSIDERED WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE PORTAL SYSTEM IS A UNIVERSAL SUBMISSION FORM FOR ALL OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD BE USED ACROSS DEPARTMENTS, WHICH IS GREAT, CAUSE WE'D HAVE ACCESS TO, WE'D BE ABLE TO KIND OF ADD TO A ONE DATABASE OF MUSICIANS ACROSS THE CITY THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO PERFORM.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW AND INTERDEPARTMENTALLY AND HOPE AGAIN, TO HAVE THAT WITH A FALL, WE HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES COMING UP WITH A STREET PERFORMANCE PROGRAM.
IF YOU SCROLL DOWN AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE AND CLICK ON THE STREET PERFORMANCE PROGRAM.
SO, UM, WE WILL BE HAVING A, THAT FORM WILL BE HERE AND IN EACH SECTION WHERE IT APPLIES BECAUSE THE LIBRARY FOR INSTANCE HAS ITS OWN SUBMISSION FORM FOR ELECTRIC LADY BIRD.
AND, UH, SO WE'LL JUST COME BACK AND LET YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO A BIG CAMPAIGN ABOUT WHEN THAT FORM IS THERE, SO THAT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE CAN, UH, SUBMIT ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, JUST EMAIL ME, MY CONTACT INFORMATION IS ON EACH SECTION OF THE WEBSITE WHERE I'M HELP FACILITATE PERFORMANCES.
AND WE ARE JUST KIND OF TAKING EVERYBODY THROUGH EMAIL AND PUTTING US INTO A LIST THAT WAY.
AND I'LL BE PUTTING THAT INTO THE DATABASE, UH, BUT WE WILL HAVE THE SUBMISSION FORM IS GREAT BECAUSE WE WANT MUSICIANS TO KNOW ABOUT ALL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND START CENTRALIZING THAT IN A MUCH BETTER WAY.
AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON OTHER UPDATES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO START SEARCHING FOR MUSICIANS AS WELL.
UH, IN THE MEANTIME, DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO GO TO THE TEXAS MUSIC DIRECTORY AND CLICK ON AUSTIN MUSICIANS.
AND YOU CAN QUERY THE DATABASE IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT MUSICIANS AND ALL KINDS OF MUSIC BUSINESSES, UH, ARE EXIST IN AUSTIN IN ORDER IF YOU NEED ANY SERVICES.
SO FOR RIGHT NOW, I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT MUSIC PROCLAMATIONS TYPICALLY HAVE BEEN UNCOMPENSATED IN THE PAST.
UH, THIS IS A, A PROGRAM THAT HAS EXISTED FOR DECADES AND TYPICALLY MUSICIANS WILL APPLY THROUGH THEIR COUNCIL OFFICE OR THROUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
AND THEY ARE VOLUNTEER ONE AT, YOU KNOW, THESE SLOTS DO A MUSIC PROCLAMATION.
WELL, THE MUSIC DIVISION IS GOING TO START PAYING FOR THOSE PERFORMANCES AND STARTING WITH 2022.
SO WE'LL BACKTRACK INTO MARCH AND PAY THOSE MUSICIANS.
UM, THE $200 RATE PER HOUR, AND WE JUST PRORATED, EVEN IF THEY'RE THERE FOR 30 MINUTES AND THAT'S FOR PERFORMANCE HOUR.
UM, AND SO THAT'S GREAT AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT GOING FORWARD.
AND, UH, JUST REALLY BEEFING UP THAT PART OF OUR OPERATIONS BUDGET FOR PAYING, UH, CREATIVES MUSICIANS FOR OPPORTUNITIES.
BECAUSE LIKE BEFORE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T CONTROL AFFORDABILITY, BUT WE CAN'T CONTROL PAYING OUR CREATIVES FOR, FOR SERVICES AND TRYING TO INCORPORATE THAT AS BEST WE CAN INTO EVERYTHING WE DO, WHETHER IT'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S A CITY, YOU KNOW, A POSSIBILITY LIKE A CITY EVENT OR A CITY, UH, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO WE JUST ENCOURAGE, WE JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, BY SHOWING HOW IT'S DONE TO HIRE AS MANY LOCAL CREATIVES AS POSSIBLE WHENEVER YOU CAN, AND TO MAKE THAT AS EASY AS WE CAN.
SO PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME, ERICA SHANLEY AND MY INFORMATION THROUGH THE WEBSITE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, BUT MORE COMING WITH THE FORM AND ROLLING OUT SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FALL.
UH, BUT THIS IS REALLY GOOD NEWS.
I KNOW OF SO MUCH OF THIS HAS BEEN ON HOLD FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
UM, IT'S SUCH A GREAT WAY TO GET PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITY AND MUSIC AND FUNDS OUT IN CRM MUSIC COMMUNITY.
SO TO THAT END, WHAT IS THERE LIKE A BUDGET, AN OVERALL BUDGET FOR, YEAH, I HAVE A BUDGET WITHIN MY, AND YOU KNOW, AND I'M LOOKING AT EXACTLY WHAT THE BUDGET WILL BE BECAUSE OF LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WE HAVE THE BUDGET THAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS FROM MY OPERATING BUDGET.
AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO PRIORITIZE THAT, LIKE WHEN, BEFORE DIVISION,
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THE DIVISION MAY HAVE SPONSORED AN EVENT, YOU KNOW, MORE TRADITIONAL SPONSORSHIPS, WE'RE TRYING TO PIVOT THAT MONEY MORE, TO MORE DIRECT SUPPORT.AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AS MUCH DIRECT SUPPORT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
IN ADDITION TO THE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST, THAT WE'LL BE DEVELOPING WITH OUR SISTER DIVISIONS AND ANY KIND OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, WE CAN HELP FOLKS GET WHATEVER SKILLS THEY NEED TO EARN MORE MONEY.
AND SO HOW HOW'S THE MUSIC OFFICE GONNA REACH OUT TO THE MUSIC COMMUNITY TO LET THEM KNOW? SO WE'LL WORK OUT.
WE WILL DO, UH, A BIG CAMPAIGN, NOT ONLY THROUGH CPIO, BUT THROUGH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF GET EVERY SINGLE THING WE CAN THINK OF OUT OF THE NETWORKS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY.
BUT THEN OF COURSE WE WILL TRY TO GET, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH KUTX OR A PARTNER WITH
AND SO WE WERE JUST AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS OF GETTING EVERYBODY ON BOARD AND EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD AS WELL AS WITH THE $200 MINIMUM AND WORKING TOWARDS THAT, NOT EVERY DEPARTMENT CAN DO IT YET, BUT WE GOT COMMITMENTS FROM A GOOD, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WILLING TO GET THERE AS QUICKLY AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN.
SO, WHICH IS ALSO VERY GOOD NEWS.
THIS IS A DOVETAILS REALLY NICELY WITH THE $200 AN HOUR RATE THAT WE RECOMMENDED A COUPLE, RIGHT.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REALLY LEAN ON OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND THE MUSIC COMMISSION EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO GET THE WORD OUT TO YOUR STAKEHOLDERS, TO EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, UH, WE HOPE TO GET THE WORD OUT THROUGH ANYONE WHO'S BENEFITED FROM A RELIEF AND RECOVERY PROGRAM, WHETHER YOU'RE A MUSICIAN OR YOU'RE A VENUE, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS IN OUR DATABASE.
SO WE'LL DO SOME TARGETED MESSAGING TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS INDICATED TO US THAT THEY ARE IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
AND SO WE HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST DATABASE THAT'S BEEN FORMED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND THEN WITH THE WORK THAT WE'RE ALSO DOING WITH THIS, UH, STATE OF TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE, THERE'S THAT WHOLE ENGAGEMENT THERE AS WELL.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT, BUT, UH, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE SEND PEOPLE OUR WAY WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, PARTNER WITH US IN TERMS OF JUST THE OUTREACH.
UH, SO HOW DOES THE STREET PERFORMANCE PROGRAM WORK? LIKE WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY? SO THE GOAL IS TO GET MUSICIANS, TO SUBMIT AND BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF SLOTS AND PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN WHERE THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR THEY GET SICK.
AND SO OUR GOAL IS NOT LIKE A SENSE OF LIKE PICKING AND CHOOSING.
IT REALLY IS GIVING EVERYBODY THAT HAS THAT LEVEL OF GOODS, EVERY EXPERIENCE THAT SAY THAT THE AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF GRANT, IF YOU'RE A MUSICIAN, THAT KIND OF THING, THAT YOU ARE QUALIFIED, YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN AND IT'S REALLY JUST PLACEMENT, UH, KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE WANT TO HAVE GENRE DIVERSITY.
WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE.
AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT, UH, AND THAT'S FROM WHERE WE HAVE CONTROLLED WHERE THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE AIRPORT OR PARKS OR FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT THAT'S HOW WE DO IT HERE IS, UH, JUST DIVERSITY OF GENRE OF WHO IT IS.
AND, UM, AND JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH, THEY PHYSICALLY PLAY.
I, IF THAT'S A DUMB QUESTION, WHAT IS CURRENTLY, UH, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH TRAMMELL CROW IS FOR A PARTICULAR BLOCK WEST SECOND AND IT'S 500 WEST SECOND STREET.
AND SO THERE'S A, IT'S THE GOOGLE BUILDING AND THERE'S A BIG, HUGE PLAZA THERE IN THE FRONT THERE.
SO WE, FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS OR BEFORE COVID IS WHERE WE BOOK THAT SPOT SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
AND THEY WOULD JUST BE ALL DAY LONG IF THE WEATHER WAS GOOD.
AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THERE'S A LOT OF RESCHEDULED RESCHEDULED DATES, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE WEATHER'S DOING.
AND WE TRY TO KEEP IT IN A MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, NICER TIME OF THE YEAR.
SO REALLY LOOKING AT SPRING AND FALL.
AND I MEAN, IT MAKES ME WONDER IF THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY TO SPONSOR SHOWCASES.
UM, WE ARE EXPLAINING THE PROGRAM.
WE, UH, AND THAT WAS DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AND WE WERE ALREADY ON BOARD WITH THAT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BRUSHES, UH, BRUSHY CREEK SQUARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RENOVATING THAT PARK.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT OTHER LOCATIONS FOR STREET PERFORMANCE, AND WE'VE BEEN MEETING REGULARLY TO JUST, YOU KNOW, FIGURE ALL OF THAT OUT.
OF COURSE IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMING OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND WHERE THEY'RE AT, SO THAT THERE'S A SAFE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CONGREGATE THAT THEY CAN ENJOY IT.
UM, WHAT IF, UH, LIKE A VENUE REACHED OUT TO YOU GUYS AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE WANT TO BE THE HOST FOR THIS, LIKE FOR ONE, YEAH, WE WILL DEFINITELY GET THE WORD OUT WITH WHATEVER BUDGET WE HAVE.
WE WANT TO JUST, AGAIN, FIND THOSE SPOTS AND JUST GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY.
SO IT REALLY, WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE LAWS OF STREET PERFORMANCE AND ANYWHERE IN TEXAS.
AND SO NO AMPLIFICATION, YOU CAN'T BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
YOU CAN'T PRESENT A HAZARD TO ANYONE WALKING BY.
AND SO I THINK EVERY BUSINESS OWNER WOULD KNOW WHERE IS A GOOD LOCATION OR DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ADJACENT TO THEIR BUSINESS? UM, AND SO WE CAN JUST HELP WITH THAT.
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REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE WITH KIM OR WITH ME.AND, UH, IF THEY THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD SPOT AND WE CAN DETERMINE, YEAH, THIS, THIS FITS ALL THE PARAMETERS.
UM, YEAH, I'LL PROBABLY, IF ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS HAVE GREAT IDEAS ABOUT HOW, HOW THIS COULD BE EXPANDED OR ELEVATED.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BE THE ONLY ONES DO IT.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE BUSINESSES, CORPORATIONS, OTHER PLACES DO THIS, AND THEY PAY THE $200 AN HOUR.
YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE A LIMITED BUDGET, BUT WE'D LOVE TO ENCOURAGE OTHER FOLKS TO SEE THAT THIS WORKS.
UH, I MEAN, LONDON HAS SHOWN US THAT BUSKING IN LONDON, IT REALLY LAUNCHES CAREERS.
IT CAN BE A LUCRATIVE REVENUE STREAM FOR MUSICIANS IN EUROPE.
AND SO THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO THE SAME.
UM, AND INSTEAD OF JUST DEPENDING ON THE TIPS OF PASSER BUYERS, BECAUSE IT'S JUST DIFFERENT HERE IN TERMS OF HOW MANY PEDESTRIANS ARE OUT WALKING IS TO DO A GUARANTEED INCOME AND YOU JUST PROMOTE YOUR BUSINESS THAT WAY THAT YOU PAY MUSICIANS, A LIVING WAGE, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU GET TO ALSO COME TO MY BUSINESS AND CHECK THEM OUT.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, I MEAN, LIKE THE FRAMEWORK THAT YOU HAVE LAID DOWN IS GREAT, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GREAT POSSIBILITY AND I JUST THINK IT'S SUCH GOOD NEWS FOR THE MUSIC COMMUNITY AS WE, I MEAN, STILL JUST DEAL WITH THE UPS AND DOWNS OF THIS PANDEMIC AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BEEN WORKSHOPPING, LIVE MUSIC FUNDED FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
AND SO IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HAVE THOSE HAPPENING.
I MEAN, I KNOW THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE THIRD PARTY.
AND SO THIS IS EVERYTHING WE CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME TO GET PEOPLE PAID AND WORKING.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS? NOPE.
THIS IS A ALL AN ALL GOOD NEWS WIN, SO YEAH.
WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED AS EVERYTHING PROGRESSES WITH THE FORM AND UH, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
UH, BUT THE BIGGEST NEWS IS BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BACKDATE SOME CHECKS OF PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY PERFORMED BECAUSE WE'VE MADE THIS DECISION THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER THOSE PERFORMANCES.
[2b. Discussion and Possible Action following update on the Live Music Fund Hotel Occupancy Tax Collections by Sylnovia Holt-Rabb, Director, Economic Development Department.]
ITEM TWO B DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.FOLLOWING AN UPDATE ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS BY STILL NOVIA HOLT RAB DIRECTOR OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
SO YEAH, D DAVID KING HAS BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME, AND I KNOW HE'S GOING TO SPEAK ON ANOTHER ITEM TO YOU, BUT YEAH, DAVID, IF YOU'RE THERE, IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND HOP IN, YOU ALL HEAR ME? YEAH.
MY NAME IS DAVID KING AND I WAS, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT AIRBNB'S PROPOSAL TO COLLECT HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES FOR AUSTIN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY COMMENTS TODAY.
AIRBNB HAS ABOUT 14,000 LISTINGS IN AUSTIN AND OPERATES IN MORE THAN 200 COUNTRIES.
AND OVER 100,000 CITIES WORLDWIDE AS OF JUNE, 2022, AIRBNB'S MARKET VALUE IS OVER $60 BILLION MAKING IT THE 228.
THE MOST VALUABLE COMPANY IN THE WORLD, AUSTIN IS AIRBNB'S THIRD LARGEST MARKET WITH OVER $342 MILLION IN GROSS REVENUE IN 2021 BEATING OUT NEW YORK CITY PARIS AND LOS ANGELES, ONLY SAN FRANCISCO AND LONDON HAD HIGHER GROSS REVENUES THAN AUSTIN.
AUSTIN CAN AND SHOULD INCREASE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS, AND IMPROVE COMPLIANCE WITH SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS.
THESE TWO GOALS ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE AND CAN BE ACHIEVED TO THE BENEFIT OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOSTS AND PLATFORMS, RESIDENTS, TAXPAYERS, TOURISTS, MUSIC, VENUES, BANDS, MUSICIANS, US IN SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS ARE NOT JUST ABOUT PERMITS, NOISE, TRASH PARKING, AND OCCUPANCY TAXES.
THEY ALSO SUPPORT IMPORTANT COUNCIL POLICIES THAT BALANCE THE INVENTORY OF STOCK AVAILABLE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
WITH HOUSING STOCK AVAILABLE FOR LONG-TERM RENTALS AND OWNERSHIP.
AUSTIN SHOULD IMPLEMENT SEVERAL OF SAN FRANCISCO SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOSTING PLATFORM REQUIREMENTS BEFORE AGREEING TO ALLOW AIRBNB TO COLLECT AND REMIT HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES TO THE CITY IN SAN FRANCISCO.
AIRBNB AGREED TO SET UP AN ONLINE PASS THROUGH REGISTRATION SYSTEM SO THAT WHEN HOSTS REGISTER THEIR INFORMATION IS SHARED WITH THE CITY.
THE CITY IS IN CHARGE OF APPROVING SHORT-TERM RENTAL, REGISTRATIONS AND REGISTRATION NUMBERS ARE REQUIRED ON ALL SAN FRANCISCO SHORT TERM RENTAL LISTINGS ON AIRBNB.
THESE TWO REQUIREMENTS ALONE COULD HELP DOUBLE OR TRIPLE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS IN AUSTIN AND FACILITATE THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO ENFORCE SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS.
PLEASE RECOMMEND THAT AUSTIN FOLLOW SAN FRANCISCO SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOSTING PLATFORM REQUIREMENTS
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AS A CONDITION OF AGREEING TO ALLOW AIRBNB AND ANY OTHER HOSTING PLATFORM TO COLLECT AND REMIT HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES TO THE CITY.PLEASE RECOMMEND THAT AIRBNB PROPOSAL IN ANY CITY PROPOSED SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS BE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC FOR REVIEW AND COMMENTS, AT LEAST 120 DAYS BEFORE CONSIDERATION BY THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY COMMENTS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO POP BACK IN FOR ITEM THREE B, CORRECT? THE, THAT THAT'S WELL, THESE COMMENTS OF FIGHT TO, TO THIS THEM TO BE IN THREE FEET.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THE COMMENTS A THREE D, BUT THEY APPLIED TO THAT, THAT ITEM AS WELL.
SO WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS, UM, MORE ABOUT THIS WHEN WE GET INTO OLD BUSINESS.
UH, BUT YEAH, BUT YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'LL BE LISTENING IN AND I CAN THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THIS ISN'T AN ITEM WE WILL KEEP AS A STANDING ITEM, SIMILAR TO, AS WE DO WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION.
SO AS YOU RECALL, THE FUND STARTED COLLECTIONS IN S F Y 20, WHICH IS 2019 TO 20.
AND THE ACTUAL COLLECTIONS FOR THAT IS $1.8 MILLION.
APPROXIMATELY DURING LAST FISCAL YEAR 20 TO 21, WE ACTUALLY COLLECTED 1.48 ABOUT 1.5.
SO THE CASH WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON HAND AS OF THE END OF SEPTEMBER IS 3.2, $4 MILLION.
AND THOSE ARE AUDITED NUMBERS.
IF YOU GO TO THE LAST COLUMN WHERE IT SAYS FYI, 21, 22, AMEND IT, THAT IS THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
AS OF APRIL, WE HAVE ACTUALLY COLLECTED 1 MILLION OF THE 1.9 MILLION BUDGETED, AND WE ARE ON A TRAJECTORY TO ACTUALLY MEET THAT GOAL.
SO AS OF END OF APRIL CASH ON HAND 4.2 MILLION, AND AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE ARE PROJECTING TO DISPERSE AT LEAST $3 MILLION DURING THE FIRST YEAR PLUS THE ADMINISTRATION FEE.
ONCE WE HAVE THE THIRD PARTY ON BOARD.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT NEWS.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, $4 MILLION IN THE BANK.
UM, AND SO BASICALLY, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE NUMBER THAT I THINK WE HADN'T HAD, UH, HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR AWHILE, SO WE HADN'T SEEN ACTUAL, SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE MONEY IN THE BANK? I LOVE YOUR SHOES.
UM, SO MY, MY THOUGHT ON THIS, AS I LOOK AT THAT PIECE OF GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE, SO WE HAVE $4 MILLION OVER $4 MILLION.
WE HAVE A SITTING IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE, UH, OVER 2 MILLION, THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR US TO SPEND FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UM, AND WOULD, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MISS MONEY OUT SOON.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE HAD WORKING GROUPS AROUND THIS, LIKE SO MUCH TIME HAS GONE INTO THIS OVER THE YEARS WITH, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY INDIVIDUALS DONATING TIME OR WORKING OVER TIME TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO WITH THE SOMEWHAT UNFORTUNATE PART OF THIS IS THAT WE STILL HAVE OVER A YEAR AT A WEIGHT.
UM, ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT TIMELINE BEFORE, UM, THE, UH, MONEY IS DISPERSED.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT JULY OF 23 RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE HERE IN JUNE OF 22.
AND, UM, DID YOU FALL INTO, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ARTS TIMELINE A LITTLE BIT FOR THAT? OR DID YOU WANT STARBUCKS? IT'S KIND OF INFORMATION TO THE RIGHT THEN THE ARTS COMMISSION AND INCIDENT, PLEASE, PLEASE ADD UP.
UM, UH, BUT W TH JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES,
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THE ARTS COMMISSION, I THINK THEY ARE ROLLING THE PROGRAM, AS I UNDERSTAND, AND THREE TIERS, RIGHT.AND THEIR FIRST ONE IS ROLLING OUT IN OCTOBER THIS YEAR.
UH, THE NEXT ONE LEVEL, UH, OF, UH, THE PROGRAM GOES OUT IN FEBRUARY AND THEN MARCH IS THE THIRD INSTALLMENT OR THE THIRD PART OF THAT PROGRAM.
SO THEY ARE, THEY ARE DEFINITELY GOING IN EARLIER THAN, THAN, THAN THE MUSIC UH, NMF IS GOING OUT.
UM, SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE A LITTLE CURIOUS AS TO, UH, MYSELF AND CHARLOTTE, UH, AFTER TALKING TO THE ART COMMISSION AS TO WHAT IS THE DELTA LIKE WHAT'S CAUSING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TIMELINE BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS, THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS OF ONBOARDING THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO THAT IS THE DELTA A ONE PROGRAM WE MAY DO.
AND THEN THE OTHER TWO THAT ARE SUBSEQUENT MAY ALSO HAVE A THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO WE'RE ALSO EXPLORING THAT BECAUSE, UH, OF STAFFING CHALLENGES.
AND SO NOBODY HAS TALKED TO US BEFORE ABOUT THE STAFFING ISSUES WITH, UM, WITH THE CITY, UM, NATIONWIDE, REALLY, UM, THE, WHEN WE TALKED WITH THE ARTS CHAIRS, WE DID UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT THEY'RE STILL TWEAKING ABOUT THEIR PROGRAMMING.
UM, OURS IS OUR DECISIONS HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY WORKSHOPS AND AGREED UPON AT COMMISSION.
AND SO, UM, THERE, THERE IS THAT DIFFERENCE.
UM, SO JUST, UH, DID, AGAIN, WANT TO THROW IT OUT TO COMMISSION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE TIMELINE AT THIS TIME? SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD LIKE FOR, AGAIN, AS COUNCIL ADVISORS FOR US TO REACH OUT TO COUNSEL AND, UM, SEE IF COUNCIL CAN TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO EXPEDITE OUR TIMELINE, I DO HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WAITING THIS LONG.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP YOU GUYS EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS.
I FEEL, I KNOW, I FEEL BAD FOR STAFF THAT YOU'VE DEVELOPED THIS PROGRAM THAT HAS TO WAIT SO LONG.
WE HAVE HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ANECDOTALLY, YOU KNOW, MUSICIANS ARE STILL FEELING SO FRUSTRATED, SO CRUSHED BY THE LACK OF AFFORDABILITY HERE.
AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL NEWS, POSSIBLY A RECESSION HEADED OUR WAY AS A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD INFLATION, FINANCIALLY, THINGS MAY CHANGE IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY MEANT TO BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITY PUTS IN $5,000, $10,000, SO THAT, UM, A PROMOTER CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, CREATE THIS EVENT, BUT THEN SELL TICKETS AND MAKE MONEY ON TOP OF THAT.
PEOPLE WILL GO DOWNTOWN AND EAT AND BUY DRINKS AND PARKING, UM, THAT IF WE ARE LAUNCHING THIS PROGRAM AND, UH, COMING IN THE MIDST OF A RECESSION, THAT IT'S GONNA REALLY DAMAGE THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF, THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE THE AUDIENCES.
UM, SO BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL, THAT THEY DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR EXPEDITING THE PROGRAM TIMELINE FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, UM, AND EXPLORE AND IMPLEMENT, UH, AN OPTION FOR EXPEDITING THE LIVE MUSIC FUND TIMELINE.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND? OKAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? OKAY.
UM, I, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE PRELIMINARY AT THIS POINT, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF WE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, WELL, SO LET ME TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT PROCESS IS LIKE.
UM, SO THAT'S NOT SAYING THE TIMELINE CHANGES.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, CITY COUNCIL, COULD YOU CONSIDER THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, WE WERE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER THAT RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THEY WOULD VOTE ON IT.
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TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY MANAGER TEAM, UM, CAN THEN LOOK AT OPTIONS.UM, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ALL OF THOSE COULD BE.
UM, BUT IT'S, THERE MAY BE A WAY TO SPEED THIS UP.
SO IT WON'T SPEED UP IF WE DON'T MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION LIKELY.
UM, BUT IT COULD, IN SOMETHING BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY COULD COME OUT OF IT.
IF, IF THE CITY IS ABLE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS PROCESS, I MEAN, IT MAY BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS REARRANGING THE TIMELINE AT PURCHASING AND SAYING LIKE, HEY, THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN WAITING A REALLY LONG TIME.
AND I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY WERE SAYING, YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN IN A LONG IN LINE, A LONG TIME.
AND, AND CHARLOTTE, WE'RE NOT IN LINE FOR AN IPHONE WE'RE IN THE SOUP LINE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S DEF SPREAD.
UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY THAT WOULD SAY LIKE, EH, LET'S JUST SLOW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW? UM, AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PROGRAM CAN'T GROW AND CHANGE AND EVOLVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST PERSONALLY FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT SEEING IF, IF PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS AGAIN, JUST THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS CLOSE TEAM CAN TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS AND HELP, YOU KNOW, HELP STAFF HELP PURCHASING.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE ALSO SOMETHING LIKE W IN THE RFP PROCESS REQUIRING A TIMELINE FROM EVERYBODY THAT APPLIES TO THE RFP.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A ROCKSTAR OUT THERE.
THAT'S LIKE, WE CAN TOTALLY GET THIS DONE FASTER FOR YOU.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S MY, UM, REC MY REASONING BEHIND THE MOTION HERE.
UM, DOES IT AGAIN, SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR THOUGHTS ON THAT? IF NOT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST TAKE IT TO A VOTE.
SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND.
SO WE'VE GOT SHAKA GROUND AND GAVIN.
AND AGAINST, OR ABSTAINING? NO, IT'S OKAY.
SO MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO WITH OUR 5 0 1 S ONE ABSTAIN.
I WAS LIKE, SOMEBODY IS MISSING.
SO NOVIA FOR MAKING THIS A STANDING ITEM ON THE, UM, YEAH.
LOOKING AT THE FINANCIALS IS SUPER HELPFUL TO US.
OH, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE, WE CAN JUST HAVE A QUORUM HERE.
CAN WE, CAN WE REDO THE VOTE NEXT TIME? I'M IN, WELL, I THINK LAUREN DROPPED, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE EVERYBODY AT HEROINE HAVE SEVEN.
THAT, SO THAT MEANS THAT THE MOTION DOESN'T CARRY.
BUT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE, OKAY.
FOLKS, WE'RE JUST THE AVERAGE.
I WOULD SAY WE HAVE THREE WEEKS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN FIGURE IT, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS AND FIGURE IT OUT.
THEN THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY THOUGH, IS THAT MY BIGGEST CONCERN AT THIS POINT IS COST.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE MORE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON TRYING TO GET THIS THING OUT, THE LESS MONEY WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY GIVE TO MUSICIANS.
AND IF WE MAKE IT LIKE, IT'S LIKE, OH MY GOD, WE GOTTA LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO THIS THING LIKE RIGHT NOW, THEN.
UM, AND TRUST ME, I MEAN, BELIEVE ME, I WANT THIS DONE.
UM, I, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE A FEW MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH A FEW MORE PEOPLE AND, AND, AND GET SOME MORE DATA AND COME BACK.
AND I HA I'M SORRY, BECAUSE I HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET.
SO, UM, CAN WE, CAN WE, UM, WE CAN PICK THIS UP AGAIN IN THE NEXT MUSIC SESSION.
BECAUSE I, I, THE WAY I READ, UM, OR HEARD THE MOTION WAS ESSENTIALLY TO JUST EXPLORE OPTIONS, UH, AND SEE IF WE CAN EXPLORE SOME OPTIONS AND ALSO PROVIDE ANY DO SUPPORT THAT NEEDED TO EDD ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO BE ABLE TO EXPEDITE IT.
SO, UM, YEAH, LET'S JUST PICK IT UP NEXT TIME, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, OKAY.
SO WE'LL MOVE IT AHEAD TO THE NEXT AGENDA.
UM, SINCE WE HAVE SORT OF A SMALL GROUP HERE TODAY.
[2D. Discussion and possible action on improving Music Commission engagement with community and City Council.]
ITEM THREE D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON IMPROVING MUSIC COMMISSION ENGAGEMENT WITH COMMUNITY AND CITY COUNCIL.UM, I THINK LAUREN WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, AND SHE'S NOT HERE.
SHE WAS, SHE HAS COVID AND SHE'S ON THE ROAD, SO SHE WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY.
UM, BUT ONE THOUGHT THAT I HAVE ABOUT THIS AND THAT I'VE TALKED TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS
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ABOUT SOMEWHAT IS THIS GOES BACK TO THE LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCE PROGRAM.IF THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME OF THESE, THESE PERFORMANCES WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MORE VISIBLE, YOU TALKED ABOUT, SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE ALL DAY LONG, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE MUSIC COMMISSION THERE HAVE, UM, SOME COMMISSIONERS ATTEND.
UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THAT COULD WORK, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY GAVIN WAS TELLING ME ABOUT A TIME WHEN THERE WERE PERFORMANCES IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS CAME OUT.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS A GREAT WAY TO TALK WITH COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL AT THE SAME TIME.
GAVIN, DID YOU WANT TO, COULD YOU, DID YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE THAT A LITTLE BIT? UM, I KNOW THAT WAS, IT WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS THE, IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO.
IT WAS 2017 AFTER, AFTER THE TEN ONE DISTRICT WAS IMPLEMENTED AND WE WERE, UM, JUST FACILITATING PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN EACH OF THE DISTRICTS.
SO IT WAS A TOWN HALL TOUR WHERE THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE COMMISSIONER WOULD HOST, UH, AT A LOCATION IN THAT DISTRICT.
UH, EVERY SO OFTEN GRAHAM WAS PART OF THAT.
UH, I THINK AT THIS, AT THAT POINT, UM, AND IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THAT WE DID GET A LOT OF, UH, STAKEHOLDERS OUT TO ENGAGE.
UH, AND I THINK THAT THE TAKEAWAY FROM IT WAS, IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE CONVENIENT FOR THE MUSIC INDUSTRY TO ATTEND, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HOSTING.
IF IT'S NEARBY, IT'S JUST, SELF-EVIDENT, UH, MAKING A MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING MAY MAKE, UH, UH, A MAJOR EFFORT.
IT'S A MAJOR EVER FOR A LOT OF FOLKS TO GET DOWNTOWN FOR A MEETING AND SIT THROUGH THAT.
BUT IF WE WERE TO GO THROUGH THE DISTRICTS, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, UM, TO EXPLORE, UH, AGAIN, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE DIDN'T DO BEFORE.
THESE WERE NOT MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS.
THESE ARE JUST TOWN HALL MEETINGS, BUT A MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING FLOATING EVERY SO OFTEN THROUGH THE CITY COULD BE REALLY GREAT PROJECT.
YEAH, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, WE'VE NEVER HAD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMPARABLE TO THE ENGAGEMENT ON, ON THAT SET OF TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
UH, EACH ONE, AS YOU SAID, WAS IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT.
SO EACH ONE WAS A DIFFERENT, UH, PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR SHOWING UP, BROUGHT THEM DIRECTLY IN CONTACT WITH YOU MUSIC STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL.
SO THERE, UM, THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF ORGANIZING TO DO WITH IT, AND THERE'S THE CAUTION AGAINST, UH, REACHING QUORUM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I DON'T, I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO DO EVERY YEAR, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO EVERY OTHER YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I, I ALSO LIKED THE IDEA, A LOT OF, UH, HAVING, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF THERE WAS A, A LOCATION THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OR WAS PART OF OUR, UM, UH, AGENDA TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE MEETING, OUR OFFICIAL MEETING AT AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION, I D I KNOW IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR STAFF.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TECH RIGHT NOW WITH THESE HYBRID MEETINGS AND MIGHT NOT BE POSSIBLE, BUT ONCE WE GET BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS, MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE MORE POSSIBLE TO DO SORT OF, UH, IN A PLACE WHERE THIS TH TH THE THING THAT'S AT STAKE IS ACTUALLY THE LOOK PART, THE LOCATION, LIKE IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THE TOPIC THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED BY THAT IDEA AND DOING THAT AGAIN.
UM, HOW SO, YEAH, IN TERMS OF YOUR, I'M SURE IT IS A LOT OF ORGANIZING, SO HOW, HOW WAS THAT TACKLED? LIKE, WAS IT COMMISSIONED AND STAFF WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICES, OR LIKE, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, LIKE WHO IT WAS CHIEFLY THAT THE COMMISSIONER WORKING WITH HIS COUNCIL MEMBER? I DON'T THINK WE PUT TOO MUCH WEIGHT ON THE, ON THE STAFF, UH, TO, TO GET THE FACILITIES.
UH, BUT, BUT TYPICALLY, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD CHOOSE A LOCATION, UH, AND A DATE AND TIME, AND THE COMMISSIONER WOULD REALLY HURT IT FROM THERE.
UH, WELL, LET'S, I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY LIKE A LOT TO BE HASHED OUT HERE IN TERMS OF DETAILS.
UM, BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO KICK THIS OFF AGAIN, AND POSSIBLY
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EVEN HAVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE AT THESE EVENTS THAT ARE PAID FOR THROUGH THE PR THE CITY PROGRAM.UM, SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? LET'S AGAIN, TAKE THIS BACK UP THE NEXT DEMEANING, AND WE'LL KIND OF WORK OUT MAYBE VOLLEY, AND I CAN TALK ABOUT SOME DETAILS ABOUT HOW IT COULD WORK AND WE'LL TALK WITH ERICA TO, AND OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO JUMP IN ON THIS, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DO OUTREACH.
THANKS GRAHAM AND GAVIN FOR GIVING US THE HISTORY OF THAT.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT HOW ANY REASON NOT TO DO IT NOW? WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET TO ALL THE DISTRICTS BEFORE ELECTIONS.
UM, WE, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH MONTHS, UH, AND, UH, SO I THINK IN THE MAKEUP OF THE, UH, THE COMMISSION MIGHT CHANGE AFTER THE ELECTION, I IMAGINE.
SO I WOULD JUST MAYBE MAKE A THROUGH THE ELECTION PLAN AND THEN TRY TO SET IT UP AS, SO THERE'S A FRAMEWORK AND PRECEDENT FOR MOVING FORWARD.
UH, AND MAYBE WE CAN EVEN COMBINE DISTRICTS, BUT YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT THAT WE DO HAVE, UM, SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR, UH, OR SEVERAL COUNCIL SEATS IN THE MAYOR SEAT, UH, MAYBE CHANGING.
SO, ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S CIRCLE BACK ON THIS ONE.
UH, BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OUTREACH.
AND THEN WHEN LAUREN IS BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, SHE CAN JUMP IN ON THIS AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE ONE MORE THING ON OLD BUSINESS,
[2E. Discussion and Possible action on nominating and selecting a Music Commission]
UH, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON NOMINATING AND SELECTING A MUSIC COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE TO THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.UH, UH, CHRIS LIMONE HAS BEEN OUR DOWNTOWN COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE FOR AWHILE, BUT HE'S STEPPING BACK FROM THAT ROLE.
UM, THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, UH, AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT REAL ESTATE, BUT AGAIN, IT'S LIKE CONVENTION CENTER, SIXTH STREET, UM, THERE'S THINGS GOING ON WITH, UH, THE CULTURAL TRUST THAT ARE DOWNTOWN RELATED.
SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR SOMEBODY FROM MUSIC, IF YOU CAN JUST COMMIT TO GOING TO ONE MORE MEETING A MONTH, UH, AND THEN REPORTING BACK ON ANYTHING, NOT EVERYBODY'S LAUGHING, BUT, UH, IS ANYBODY FEELING LIKE THEY WOULD LOVE TO BE PART OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION? SCOTT? I FEEL LIKE YOU SORT OF WANT TO, I GET THAT.
I THINK I FELT LIKE I SAID THAT I WOULD, BUT I, I THINK, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
I MIGHT HAVE TO LIKE EITHER RESEND THAT OR AT LEAST THINK ABOUT IT.
UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, I'M ALSO DOING THE ARTS THING, BUT I KNOW THAT LAUREN'S ALSO DOING THE JOINT ARTS THING.
SO I GUESS THAT LEAVES SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
I MEAN, THERE ARE LIKE WHAT 12 OF US.
CAN WE, CAN WE TABLE THAT FOR, YEAH.
ALSO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE SMALL TODAY.
SO, UM, I'LL PROBABLY SEND AN EMAIL OUT TO THE KIMCO FORD, UH, ABOUT THIS.
EVERYBODY CAN BE THINKING ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE OF OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS COMING UP AND JUST LIKE THREE WEEKS.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S, I'VE, I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION MEETINGS.
LIKE IT'S NOT HEAVY LIFTING REALLY.
IT'S JUST A CHANCE AND YOU CAN DO IT FROM YOUR HOUSE.
UH, BUT IT'S A CHANCE TO BE LIKE, THIS IS WHAT MUSIC'S THINKING ABOUT.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT, PLEASE KEEP MUSIC IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE MAKING ALL OF THESE DECISIONS.
UH, I NOMINATE SCOTT STRICKLAND.
ALL IN FAVOR OR THAT THESE JOBS SHAKA SHAKA ON VIDEO IS PROBABLY HANDLING MAYBE.
HE'S GOT HIS, OH, I CAN'T, I'M HAVING TROUBLE GETTING TEXTS OUT RIGHT NOW WITH MY IT'S A WIFI ISSUE.
SO WE HAVE A EMOTIONAL SECOND TO NOMINATE SCOTT STRICKLAND TO REPRESENT US ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.
SCOTT STRICKLIN IS OUR DOWNTOWN COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE
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AND I WILL COMMIT TO SCOTT.IF THERE'S A MEETING, YOU CAN'T MAKE, I'LL BE YOUR BACKUP.
SO WE GOT A CAB DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.
[3A. Discussion and Possible Action following update on Joint Arts and Music Commission Working Group.]
WE WILL MOVE INTO OLD BUSINESS.AND, UH, SO ITEM THREE, A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FALLING UPDATE FROM JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION WORKING GROUP.
UH, SO WE WILL SKIP THIS FOR NOW AND
[3B. Discussion and Possible Action on addition of Short-term Rentals to Hotel Occupancy Tax fund revenue.]
THEN, SO WE'LL MOVE INTO ITEM THREE, B DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.ON ADDITION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS TO HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND REVENUE.
SO WE DID HEAR FROM A COMMUNITY MEMBER, UH, EARLIER THAT HAS STUDIED THIS CLOSELY AND TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE THINGS CONCERNS THAT COMMISSIONERS HAD, UH, DISCUSSED EARLIER WHEN, UH, LOUIS BRIANNA'S, UH, ATTENDED.
AND LUIS ALSO TALKED TO US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN BRING IN MORE MONEY.
UM, SO TO ME LIKE THIS, THERE'S STILL LIKE A LOT TO UNTANGLE HERE.
I, DAVID TOUCHED ON THE FACT THAT IT, IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE REGISTERED, YOU KNOW, HAVE ALL THE MOST, OR MOST OF YOUR AIRBNBS IN YOUR CITY BE REGISTERED.
AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, COLLECT HOT FUNDS WITHOUT LIKE, THEY DON'T THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PUSH AND PULL ON THIS NECESSARILY.
AND IS DAVID STILL ON THE LINE? NO.
UM, SO I WAS IN A MEETING WITH, UM, THE ARTS VICE CHAIR, HEIDI, AND, AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FROM AIRBNB.
AND THEY TALKED A LITTLE BIT, CAUSE WE WERE JUST LIKE, WHY, WHY DOES IT SEEM DIFFICULT TO GET EVERYBODY REGISTERED? UM, AND SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING WERE, UM, JUST THE CITY.
LIKE I STILL DIDN'T HAVE LIKE A GREAT SENSE OF THE CITY PROCESS WITH THAT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY FELT LIKE SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S SLOW AT THE CITY TO, FOR OUR AIRBNB OWNER OR AIRBNB OWNERS FEEL LIKE THE PROCESS IS BURDENSOME.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR FROM CITY STAFF ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WAY TO SPEED THAT UP OR IF ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE JUST HEARING ONE SIDE OF THAT STORY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET REALLY THE PICTURE FROM STAFF.
UM, AND THEN DAVID ALSO TOUCHED ON THE SAN FRANCISCO AGREEMENT WITH AIRBNB AND I SHOULD MENTION LIKE EVERY MUNICIPALITY CAN HAVE THEIR OWN AGREEMENT ON THIS ISSUE.
AND, UM, WHAT SAN FRANCISCO DOES IS THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A PA UH, PASS THROUGH REGISTRATION SYSTEM.
SO AS SOON AS SOMEBODY REGISTERS WITH AIRBNB, AIRBNB, SINCE THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY AND THE CITY CAN THEN CHECK AND SEE IF THAT OWNER IS REGISTERED AND IF NOT, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO THEM TO GET THAT SITUATION ALL SETTLED.
UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
I FEEL LIKE OVERALL THIS TOPIC IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TAKE UP AT THE JOINT MEETING WITH ARTS.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A HARD AND FAST DECISION TODAY UNLESS ANYBODY HAS, HAS THAT IN THEM THAT THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE.
UH, AND THEN VOLLEY WAS ALSO IN A MEETING WITH THE ARTS CHAIRS.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO, TO ADD? NO, I THINK, UM, YEAH, I'M IN, IT IS, IT IS DEFINITELY OF VALUE TO THE MUSIC COMMUNITY TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS FROM AIRBNB.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S, UH, UH, COLLECTIVELY WITHIN MUSIC AND THAT'S HOW WE SEE IT AND HOW WE BALANCE THAT WITH, UH, THE IMPACT OF, UH, HOW AIRBNB, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE DYNAMICS AROUND THAT WITHIN THE LARGER SOCIETY, WHICH WE'RE ALSO PART OF.
SO THERE IS A, UM, I WOULD, YEAH, I MEAN, IF HE COULD FIND A WAY TO STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, LEVERAGE THE PRESENCE OF SUCH A HUGE ENTITY, UH, IN THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MUSIC COMMUNITY BETTER AND GET DRAWN MORE FUNCTION.
UH, I THINK I WOULD BE THAT WOULD, I WOULD BE THRILLED BY THAT.
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DOVE BACK IN IF YOU WANTED TO.DAVIDSON, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE AIRBNB ITEM AND YOU TOUCHED ON WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING TO US EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS SORT OF A PUSH AND PULL BETWEEN RE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF UNREGISTERED, UH, SDRS THAT, AND THAT IS TROUBLING OFTEN TO THE NEIGHBORS.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THIS, THIS NEED TO COLLECT HOT TAXES AND THEY, AIRBNB, I THINK POSITION IS THAT THEY COULD COLLECT THE HOT TAXES FOR US WITHOUT THE NEED TO, FOR THOSE AIRBNBS TO NECESSARILY BE REGISTERED AND, AND PASS IT ONTO THE, AND THEN SORT OF BYPASS THE REGISTRATION STUFF.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO THAT SOUNDS SORT OF BAD TO SAY IT THAT WAY, BUT, UM, DO, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT, LIKE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON HOW ALL THIS COULD WORK IDEALLY, AND WE DID JUST TALK ABOUT THE SAN FRANCISCO SYSTEM.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, AIRBNB IS A, IS A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY HERE AND, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT WE ALL WORK TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MUTUAL BENEFIT OF, YOU KNOW, OF OUR CITY AND, AND AIRBNB CAN BENEFIT AS WELL.
AND I POINTED OUT THAT THEY HAVE A BIG IMPACT HERE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF LISTINGS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE DEALT WITH THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS SITUATION THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET MORE OF THESE, UH, SHORT-TERM MENTAL, UH, REGISTERED WITH THE CITY, UH, THEN YOU KNOW, IT, IT HELPS TO STREAMLINE THE CITY'S ENFORCEMENT PROCESS IN TERMS OF THE CITY SPENDS LOTS OF MONEY TRYING TO GO AND VERIFY IF SOMEBODY HAS REGISTERED THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS REGISTERED.
SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY HELP THE CITY IN THEIR, IN, IN, IN MAKING SURE THAT THE, THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE REGISTERED AND NOT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SENSE THAT, UH, THAT WE COLLECT THE HOT TAX RIGHT THERE ON THE PLENTY, AND THAT THE COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, REMIT THAT BACK TO THE CITY.
UM, AND THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT'S STREAMLINED FOR THE COMPANY IT'S STREAMLINED FOR THE CITY.
SO I'M LOOKING FOR WAYS TO STREAMLINE IT FOR THE COMPANY AND FOR THE CITY.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE.
AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT TOO, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, GETTING, UH, MORE, MORE SHORT-TERM RENTALS NECESSARILY BECAUSE THE CITY POLICY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OVER 14,000 ALREADY.
SO AUSTIN IS ONE OF THE HOTTEST, SHORT TERM RENTAL MARKETS.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE SHOULD LEVERAGE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY AND FOR OTHER IMPORTANT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, CLARITIES FOR OUR CITY.
SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY A WIN-WIN AND SAN FRANCISCO HAS SHOWN HOW IT CAN WORK AND THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT BEEN, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT AIR, UH, SAN FRANCISCO DOES IS WHEN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, REGISTERS ON THEIR PLATFORM.
THEY SAY, OKAY, IF YOU'RE IN SAN FRANCISCO, THEN YOU MUST REGISTER WITH THE CITY.
AND THEN THEY SEND THAT, THAT REGISTRATION INFORMATION OVER TO THE CITY.
THEN THE CITY TAKES OVER FROM THERE AND DOES ITS PART WITH THAT PARTICULAR SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND GET SOME PERMITTED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO AIRBNB DOESN'T HAVE TO REALLY GET INVOLVED IN THAT PART.
THEY SIMPLY JUST SEND THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY.
AND THEN, UH, EVERY SWAPPING AIRBNB PROVIDES THE SAN FRANCISCO WITH A, ESSENTIALLY A DUMP OF DATA SO THAT THE CITY CAN GO THROUGH AND CATCH UP, UH, DONORS THAT ARE STAYING ON THE PLATFORM.
BUT THOSE THAT ARE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY AND THEN THE DELTA, THEY CAN FOLLOW UP AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GOING OVER THAT IN DETAIL.
AND, UM, I DUNNO IF YOU WERE LISTENING TO THE MEETING ON THE LIVE STREAM, DAVID, BUT I WAS JUST SAYING, UM, THAT WE WILL, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM WITH THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.
THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE POINT AT WHICH WE WOULD MAKE A MOTION OR SOME SORT OF RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ABOUT THIS.
SO, UM, YOUR INSIGHT HAS BEEN SUPER HELPFUL.
AND THE MISSING PIECE THAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS LIKE REALLY WHO'S THE BEST PERSON TO TALK TO AT THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN GET THE CITY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD FROM AIRBNB AND NOW THE COMMUNITY, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE ON YOUR TEAM, DAVID, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS.
SO YOU REPRESENT, UH, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS NEIGHBORS HERE.
SO, UH, YEAH, SO THAT'S OUR NEXT POINT.
WE'LL TRY TO GET SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY TO GIVE US THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEN I THINK THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TOGETHER WITH ARTS, UH, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POPPING BACK ON DAVID.
I THINK THE CODE DEPARTMENT IS ONE IS BILLY DEPARTMENT AND I, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, UH, A MEETING EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY SO OFTEN WITH A COMMUNITY, UH, ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTAL SO THEY CAN GET FEEDBACK AND INPUT.
AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT INFORM US ABOUT WHAT EFFORT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO JUST VERIFY THAT THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE
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PERMITTED AND HOW MUCH EFFORT AND TIME THEY HAVE THERE AND HOW THIS PROCESS WOULD ACTUALLY STREAMLINE IT, MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE AND ACTUALLY HELP STREAMLINE OUR, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND TO ENFORCE THE REGULATIONS HERE IN AUSTIN, THAT PERMIT.AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION AND THE MUSIC COMMISSION HERE.
IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, I'M HAPPY TO HELP OUT.
AND THEN YEAH, SCOTT, YOU HAD A COMMENT, DAVID SCOTT STRICKLIN HERE.
UH, HOW ARE YOU DOING FIRST OFF? I'M DOING WELL.
UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE HERE.
MAYBE I'M A LITTLE BIT IGNORANT TO THIS, BUT HAVE YOU, UM, ADDRESSED OR GONE TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THIS PROPOSAL AT ALL? I DID SEND IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I, YOU KNOW, I READ ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, AIRBNB IS PROPOSING TO HELP OUT.
I KNOW THEY WANT TO BE PART OF IT.
THEY ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY WANT TO HELP THE MUSIC COMMUNITY HERE AND OUR ARTS COMMUNITIES.
I, I FEEL LIKE THEY, THEY REALLY GENUINE ABOUT THAT.
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT AIRBNB IS, IS LOOKING AT HERE, BUT THAT WE BLEND IT WITH SOME OF OUR, OUR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY AS WELL.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A BLENDED APPROACH HERE THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES SOME OF WHAT AIRBNB IS TRYING TO DO HERE.
AND ALSO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED AS A CITY.
ONE IS, UH, WHEN DID YOU SPEAK TO COUNCIL ABOUT THAT? CAUSE I WANT TO GO BACK AND WATCH THAT RECORDING TOO.
UM, CAN YOU JUST LIKE A BROAD BRUSH? TELL ME WHAT, UM, THEY WERE, WHAT THE GIST OF WHAT THEY WERE SAYING WAS IN REGARDS TO YOUR PROPOSAL, I HAD EMAILED THIS TO THE COUNCIL.
THEY HAVE NOT HAD A HEARING BECAUSE THIS, THIS, THIS CONCEPT THAT AIRBNB IS PROPOSING HAS NOT YET MADE IT TO THE COUNCIL.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING THROUGH THE BOARDS AND KNOW AS IT SHOULD.
SO WE CAN GET THE INFORMED ALONG THE WAY WITH ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY INPUT HERE AND PERSPECTIVES.
AND THEN IT'LL WILL I ASSUME THAT IT WILL, AT SOME POINT END UP AT COUNCIL, I DO PLAN TO COMMENT THERE AND PROVIDE INPUT THERE.
AND A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN THE CITY WAS GEARING UP, THAT ARE OF LITTLE ORDINANCE IN THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, I WORKED WITH THE MAYOR TO TRY TO GET THIS OUT AND INSTALLATION.
THAT'S HOW I LEARNED ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITIES IN SAN FRANCISCO IS DOING AND HOW THEY'VE WORKED WITH AIRBNB.
AND AIRBNB HAS DONE THIS WITH OTHER CITIES, NOT JUST WITH SAN FRANCISCO.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? HEY, NO.
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
THEN LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR OUR JULY 11TH MEETING.UM, SO WE'LL HAVE A STANDING ITEM OF A REPORT ON THAT LIVE MUSIC FUND, HOT TAXES, UH, SO THAT WILL JUST COME FORWARD.
UH, ADC WILL WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THEM.
SO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND AFTER UPDATE FROM ADC, UM, WHAT ELSE? WE HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT DIDN'T, THAT FELL AWAY TODAY.
SO CONVENTION CENTER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AFTER PRESENTATION FROM KATIE'S DOMESTIC FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, THAT'LL COME FORWARD.
UM, I THINK WE NEED SECONDS ON THIS.
IT WAS SOMETIMES WE DO THEM AS A BATCH.
SO IF ANYBODY CAN, YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.
UM, YOU ALSO HAVE THE LIVE MUSIC, FUN EXPEDITING.
WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STANDING ITEM, A DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION FALLING UPDATE ON THE LIVE MUSIC HOTEL FUND OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT TIMELINE.
SO I THINK THAT CAN COME FORWARD IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY THAT, THAT WORDING OF IT.
UM, YEAH, SO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON IMPROVING MUSIC COMMISSION ENGAGEMENT WITH COMMUNITY AND CITY COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT POSSIBLY.
UM, THE, UH, THE, UH, I'M CALLING IT THE LILO ACT, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO POSSIBLY SEE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UM, IF IT'S A CITY FUNDED EVENT, UH, THE MUSICIANS WOULD BE PAID, UM, AN HOUR AND EXTRA ADDITIONAL HOUR, UM, FOR LOAD-IN AND LOAD-OUT SO, OKAY.
LOADING AT 30 MINUTES LOADING IN 30 MINUTES, LOADING OUT, HAVING THAT BE PART OF THE COMPENSATION AS WELL, IF I DON'T KNOW.
SO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CITY PAID MUSIC PERFORMANCE, INCLUDING LOAD-IN AND LOAD-OUT TIME.
SO WE HAD, UM, AN ITEM THAT IS GOING TO CARRY FORWARD FROM THE
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JUNE 6TH THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE.SO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UP PRESENTATION FROM CITY STAFF ON THE CITY, RFP AND PURCHASING PROCESS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR REMINDING ME, UM, OKAY.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT SLATE OF AGENDA ITEMS? YEAH.
I THINK WE SHOULD'VE LET SHOCK HIS BABY ACCOUNT AS A VOTER TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY FOR MAKING TIME FOR THIS SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
AND WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY ON JULY 11TH.