Jun 27, 2022 Design

UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

ALL RIGHT, MR. HERNANDEZ.

GOOD EVENING.

YOU ALL HAVE THE PRESENTATION.

I'M NOT SEEING IT ON MY SCREEN, SO I'M NOT THERE IT IS.

SO GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS REYNALDO HERNANDEZ JR.

I'M A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND I'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY.

THE PURPOSE THERE GOES TO REHABILITATION PROJECT ALSO JOINING US.

UM, ALSO VIRTUALLY IS MY, UH, THE PROJECTS LEAD DESIGN, UH, REPRESENTATIVE AND THAT'S, UH, LINNBAKER GODFREY.

UH, LAURIE LINNBAKER IS, UH, HERE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL, UM, LOCATION AND CONDITIONS OF THE PROJECT.

THE BATHHOUSE IS LOCATED IN PARK IS SIERRA GOSA.

PURCHASER GHOSTLY WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY AS A, UM, MEXICAN AMERICAN PARK SITE.

AND THAT WAS BASED ON THE POLICIES AT THAT TIME.

THE WHOLE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1941 BY THE NATIONAL YOUTH ADMINISTRATION AND NEW DEAL AGENCY.

AND THE POOL ITSELF WAS BUILT IN 1933.

THE ZONING FOR THIS AREA IS A P DASH NP FOR PUBLIC NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN COMBINED DISTRICT.

AND IT'S THE ECHO VALLEY JOHNSON TERRORISTS, UH, COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

AND THE PARK IS SIR GHOST IS LOCATED IN EAST AUSTIN.

IT'S A CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SEVENTH STREET AND, UH, THE INTERSECTION, THE MAIN INTERSECTION WOULD BE SEVENTH AND, UH, HEARD OF NALA STREET, THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT, WHICH SHOWS KIND OF A, UH, OVERVIEW OF THE LAYOUT OF THE BATHHOUSE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE POOL AND THE PARK SITE.

UM, THE WEST SIDE OF THE BATH HOUSES, THE PARK PROPER, AND THEN, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE, ADJACENT TO THE PARENT AND ALL THIS THAT'S A SERVICE ROAD THAT LEADS INTO, UH, THE POOL AREA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE EXISTING BATH HOUSE, UH, THE IMAGE ON THE UPPER CENTER, THAT'S THE VIEW OF THE BATH HOUSE.

IT'S PRIMARILY A BRICK STRUCTURE.

CURRENTLY.

THE WINDOWS ARE COVERED IN BARS.

UH, NONE OF THE WINDOWS ARE FROM CEILING THE FLOOR.

AND I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO, UH, BE PART OF THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE PRESENTING.

THE BUILDING ITSELF WAS CLOSED IN 2010 DUE TO DETERIORATING CONDITIONS.

THE IMAGE ON THE LOWER RIGHT IS A VIEW OF THE ACTIVITY ROOM.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S IN PRETTY DILAPIDATED SHAPE.

AND THEN THE VIEW ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A VIEW OF THE HALLWAY.

AND THIS PICTURE ALSO HAS THE ARCH, UH, FEATURES THAT THE BUILDING HAS AT A VERY DISTINCTIVE,

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THE OVERALL FLOOR PLAN, UM, FOR THE EXISTING BATH HOUSES, ALL SHAPED AND IT'S ABOUT 1800 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE SPACE IS DIVIDED UP WITH A MEN'S AND WOMEN'S RESTROOM FACILITY.

UH, TWO OFFICE SPACES, ONE LARGE ONE AND ONE SMALL ONE, AND THEN AN ACTIVITY ROOM.

UH, THERE WAS AN AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM TO THE BUILDING, BUT, UH, WE ARE NOT PLANNING ON UTILIZING THAT, UH, AC SYSTEM ONE BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER FUNCTIONING.

AND TWO WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE FACILITY BE AN OPEN AIR FACILITY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SMALL, UH, OFFICE SPACE.

THAT WILL BE CONDITIONED.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO HERE WE HAVE THE PLAN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE REHABILITATION.

IT'S PRIMARILY INTERIOR, UH, REHABILITATION.

THE ENTRY WILL REMAIN THE SAME AS IT'S NOTED.

UH, AS YOU WALK INTO THE BUILDING OFF TO YOUR RIGHT WILL BE A STORAGE AREA AND A JANITOR'S CLOSET, ALL THE BY THE MEN'S ROOM.

AND THEN DOWN THE HALL WILL BE THE WOMAN'S ROOM, BOTH THE MEN'S AND THE WOMEN'S ROOM WILL HAVE A SHOWER.

AND THE FIXTURES FOR THE MEN'S AND THE WOMEN'S ROOM WILL, UH, COMPLY WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CODE FOR A BATHHOUSE, UH, BASED ON THE POOL THAT IT'S GOING TO SERVE.

THE NEW ENTRY INTO THE POOL AREA IS DOWN THE HALLWAY.

IT IS NO LONGER, UH, THE ARCH, UH, ARCHWAYS THAT WERE THERE.

THE WE WEREN'T, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE ARCHWAYS BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT LIMITATION OF 80 INCHES, WHICH MAKES THEM NON ADA COMPLIANT.

THE OPEN PAVILION SPACE.

WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING IS USING THE EXISTING WINDOWS AND BRINGING THOSE DOWN TO THE FLOOR, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO INSTALL LARGE OPENINGS, UH, THAT CAN BE CLOSED AND OPENED AND ALLOW FOR A FREE FLOW OF AIR THROUGH THE SPACE.

AND THEN ALSO ALLOW FOR FREE FLOW FLOW OF PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT OF THE POOL AREA, UH, EITHER INTO THE POOL AREA OR ONTO THE PARK SITE, THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT, I'M SORRY TO THE LEFT IS AN OVER VIEW IMAGE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.

AND, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE ARE USING THE EXISTING WINDOWS ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, EXTENDING THOSE DOWN TO THE GROUND AND PROVIDING THE OPENINGS.

THE, UH, ARCH, UH, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES WILL REMAIN IN PLACE, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE USED.

AND THEN THE NEW ENTRY TO THE BATH HOUSE IS SHOWN THERE WITH AN OVERHEAD STRUCTURE.

WE ARE PLANNING ON USING SOME OVERHEADS FEATURES AND THEY'RE SHOWN HERE, UH, ONE ON THE WEST SIDE, UH, FOR THE ENTRY AND THEN ONE ON THE EAST SIDE AS YOU EXIT THE ACTIVITY ROOM AND THEN TO ENHANCE THE AIR CIRCULATION, THE DESIGN TEAM HAS INCLUDED SOME AIR VENTS, UM, SOME SPECIAL AIR VENTS, UH, TO HELP WITH THE AIR CIRCULATION IN THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S RESTROOM FACILITY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO FOLLOWING THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE DIVIDED UP INTO FOUR DISTINCT, UM, CLASSIFICATIONS ONE'S ERROR, WIDE URBAN GUIDELINES.

AND THE SECOND IS THE GUIDELINES FOR PUBLIC STREETSCAPE AND FOLLOWED BY THE GUIDELINES FOR PLAZAS AND OPEN SPACE.

AND THEN FOR GUIDELINES AND BUILDINGS, THE DESIGN OF THE PARK OF CIRCLES, THE BATH HAS REAL REHABILITATION WILL MEET WITH, UH, LEAD A VERSION FOR INTERIOR, UH, COMMERCIAL SPACE.

SO THAT IS OUR GOAL IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO IT BE GOING THROUGH EACH OF THE GUIDELINES AND HOW OUR PROJECT MEETS THOSE.

AND SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE AREA WIDE URBAN GUIDELINES.

AWU FOR NOTE, UH, STATES BUFFERS, NEIGHBORHOOD EDGES.

WE ARE NOT INTENDING TO EXPAND THE BUILDING OR ENLARGE ITS FOOTPRINT AT ANY, UH, WAY.

UH, THE BUILDING'S SURROUNDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ALTERED.

THERE'S GOING TO BE VERY MINIMAL LANDSCAPE.

UH, WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO, TO THE POOL AREA ITSELF.

IT'S PRIMARILY JUST TO THE EXTERIOR AND TO AVOID HISTORICAL MISREPRESENTATIONS.

WE ARE LEAVING, UH, THE BRICK FACADE OF THE, OF THE BUILDING INTACT.

WE ARE NOT, UH, ALTERING AT ALL THE, ANY OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS TO THE BUILDING, ESPECIALLY THE ARCHES.

UH, THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE CHANGING IS THAT WE ARE EXTENDING AT SOME LOCATIONS, THE WINDOW OPENINGS DOWN TO THE GROUND.

AND AS FAR AS AWS 11 GOES, WE'RE RECYCLING THE EXISTING BUILDING STOCK, MEANING THAT WE'RE USING THE BUILDING AS IS AS A REHABILITATION NEXT SLIDE, OR, UM, PUBLIC STREETSCAPES.

WE ARE NOT,

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UH, ADDING ANY MORE, UH, CURB CUTS.

SO WE'RE KEEPING THE SAME KURT, KURT CUP SAYS THAT ARE IN PLACE AND WE'RE IN REINFORCING THE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.

AND WE'RE DOING THIS BY USING THE EXISTING CIRCULATION ROUTES THAT ARE IN THE PARK TO BRING FOLKS TO THE BATH HOUSE.

IN ADDITION, WE'RE ALSO ADDING A ADA WALKWAY, UH, TO AN EXISTING ADA PARKING SPOT.

THAT'S IN THE, UH, SERVICE DRIVEWAY AND THE NEW RESTAURANT FACILITY, WHICH WILL BE A NEW AMENITY TO THE PARK WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PARK SITE, AS WELL AS, UH, FROM THE ACCESS ROAD OFF THE ALFA.

PARDON US, AS FAR AS PROVIDING A PEDESTRIAN SCALE, UH, LIGHTING SPECIFICALLY, WE WILL BE PROVIDING LIGHTING ON THE ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING, AND THEN ALSO SOME LIGHTING ON THE EAST SIDE TO, UH, ENHANCE THE HEAVY, HONEST, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT, AND ALSO TO PROVIDE SOME SECURITY FOR, UH, THE NUMBER THREE CLAUSES AND OPEN SPACE WERE CONTRIBUTING TO THE OPEN SPACE NETWORK BY PROVIDING A RESTAURANT FACILITY TO THE PARK SITE.

AND WE ARE CONDUCTING THAT RESTAURANT FACILITY TO THE EXISTING PARKS, CIRCULATION ROUTES, OR, UH, CONSIDERING AND VIEWS THAT CIRCULATION BOUNDARIES AND SUBSPACES AND THOUGHTS OF DESIGN.

THE NEW FACILITY WILL BE COMPLETELY ADA ACCESSIBLE.

IT WILL AGAIN BE CONNECTING TO ALL OF THE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION ROUTES IN THE PARK.

AND THE OPEN PAVILION WILL PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL GATHERING SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY AT A HUMAN SCALE.

NEXT SLIDE, IN ADDITION TO, UH, PLAZAS OPEN SPACES, PZ, UH, 15, WE'RE INCREASING THE SAFETY, UM, THE WAYFINDING IN LIGHTING AND VISIBILITY.

SO WE'RE ENHANCING THE ENTRANCE TO THE FACILITY BY PROVIDING OVERHEAD SHADE STRUCTURE, AND WE'RE ALSO ADDING LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE.

AND THEN, UH, FOR GUIDELINES FOR BUILDINGS, WE ARE ACCENTUATING THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE THAT MORE OF A, A WELCOMING ENTRANCE BY PROVIDING THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND LIGHTING.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ENCOURAGING THE INCLUSION OF THE LOCAL CHARACTER BY THAT WE ARE NOT, UM, CHANGING THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE BUILDING.

WE ARE ENHANCING THE FEATURES THAT IT CURRENTLY HAS BY ALLOWING FOR FREE FLOW CIRCULATION INTO THE STRUCTURE.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF CREATING A QUALITY CONSTRUCTION, WE, UH, INTEND TO MEET ALL OF THE MINIMUM CITY OF AUSTIN SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS.

AND OF COURSE, UH, WE, WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THE LEAD, UM, VERSION FOUR FOR INTERIORS AND COMMERCIAL SPACES.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THOSE, BE 0.7, CREATING BUILDINGS WITH HUMAN SCALE AS A REHABILITATION, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING AND WE'RE KEEPING IT AT THE PEDESTRIAN SCALE THAT IT IS NEXT SLIDE.

SO IN TERMS OF OUR SCHEDULE, UM, WE WENT, WE HAVE, UH, COMPLETED OUR PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND SCHEMATIC DESIGN, AND THAT WAS COMPLETED, UM, EARLY IN 2022.

WE ARE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND FISHING FISH, FINISHING UP DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE HOPE TO BE IN BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION IN LATE 20, 22 AND HOPE TO ANTICIPATE THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT ITSELF FOR THE SWIM SEASON IN 2023.

AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS THE POOL IS BEING USED CURRENTLY.

AND, UH, THE USERS OF THE POOL ARE USING PORT-A-POTTIES, UH, FOR A RESTROOM FACILITY AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING SO SINCE 2010, THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT IS COMING FROM, UH, THE 2006, 2012 AND 2018 PARKS AND RECREATION BOND FUNDS.

AND OUR CURRENT CONSTRUCTION BUDGET IS ANTICIPATED TO BE BETWEEN 750 AND $1 MILLION.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE'RE HERE TODAY, HOPEFULLY TO, UM, FOR YOU ALL TO FIND COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN DESIGN AND FACILITY SUSTAINABILITY CENTERS AS THEY APPLY FOR OUR PROJECT OF PARKER SURROGACY.

SO THANK YOU.

AND IF YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER THEM, RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE? UH, THE PARK IS THERE.

I GO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK RESTROOM REHAB PROJECT, UH, TWO DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER LUKENS.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER FROM LENA'S HAS SECONDED.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

UH, YEAH.

WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? YES.

COMMISSIONER LUKINS AND OBVIOUSLY

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THIS MUCH, THE PROJECT SHUT UP.

IT'S CRAZY.

THEY'VE BEEN IMPORTANT PARTIES FOR ONE 10 YEARS NOW.

BUT, UH, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT JUST A KIND OF PUBLIC INPUT WAS THERE INTO THE DESIGN PROCESS.

SO THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE HAD WAS PRIMARILY THROUGH THE PARKS, A WEBSITE, WHAT PAGE AND WE INVITED, UH, CONTACTED THE, UM, PART OF THE FRIENDS OF PARK IS SIR GOSA TO, UM, REFERENCE THE PARK WEBPAGE FOR INFORMATION.

UH, WE'VE ALSO HAVE MET WITH, UM, UH, THROUGH EMAIL, I SHOULD SAY, UH, AND RESPONDED TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN AND WHAT WAS BEING INCLUDED.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE A QUESTION OR DISCUSSION POINT COMMISSIONER COLEMAN PRESENTATION, RIGHT.

UM, I'M TRYING TO GET PAST THE FACT THAT THEY'VE BEEN USING PORTA POTTY SINCE 2010.

I'M A LITTLE DISTURBED BY THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR FINALLY MAKING THIS HAPPEN FOR OUR CITIZENS OVER THERE.

MY QUESTION IS I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO A LITTLE, UH, GOOGLE EARTH THING ON THIS PROJECT TODAY TO UNDERSTAND THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, UH, ACCESS IN GENERAL AND CONNECTIVITY TO THE PUBLIC REALM FROM WHAT I COULD GET, OR THE CLOSEST BUS STOP IS ON SEVENTH GRADE.

UM, SO EVERYONE ELSE IS BY FOOT, I WOULD ASSUME OR BICYCLE.

SO MY QUESTIONS ARE AROUND THAT ONE BICYCLE.

NUMBER TWO IS HOW DOES IT CONNECT TO THE REC CENTER TO THE ENTRY? I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE.

SO, UM, UM, I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSION SAKE, YOU COULD HELP US WITH THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE GENERAL CONNECTIVITY ISSUES.

SO, UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN DO THIS, I'LL TRY THIS VERBALLY AS I TRY TO, UM, FIND A MAP FOR YOU.

SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF, UH, HOW THE PARK SITE WORKS, UH, IN TERMS OF CONDUCTION.

SO THERE WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, ADDITIONAL BIKE RACKS AND THE, UM, THE WAY THE POOL IS CURRENTLY ACCESS IS THROUGH THE PARK SITE, UH, ONE WAY, AND THEN ALSO THROUGH THE ACCESS ROAD ALONG PER DENALIS.

SO PINELLAS DOES HAVE A DEDICATED BIKE LANE, UM, AND IT ALSO HAS A SIDEWALK.

UH, SO THAT'S HOW THE COMMUNITY ACCESS IS IT ACCESS THE SITE FROM THAT LOCATION ON THE PARK SIDE? WHAT WE DO HAVE IS WE A NUMBER OF WALKWAYS, SPECIFICALLY ONE WALKWAY, THE CROSSES, THE BOGGY CREEK, AND THEN LEAD THAT WALKWAY LEADS YOU TO THE RECREATION CENTER.

AND THERE ARE TWO PATHS TO THE RECREATION CENTER.

ONE, UM, IF YOU GO INTO THE MAIN BUILDING AND YOU WALK DOWN THE HALLWAY, THERE'S A DOORWAY THERE THAT CONNECTS YOU TO A WALKWAY THAT LEADS YOU TO THE POOL, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER WALKWAY.

UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO GET TO THAT ONE, BUT IT'S ALSO FROM WITHIN THE RECREATION CENTER THAT TAKES YOU TO THE POOL AREA.

AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S A PARKING AREA, UH, TO THE EAST THAT ALSO TAKES YOU TO, UM, THE, UH, I'M LOOKING AT TRYING TO FIND A MAP HERE THAT TAKES YOU TO THE PARK SITE VIA A WALKWAY.

AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO CONNECT YOU HERE, UM, TO MY SCREEN SO THAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN, THIS ONE, AND YOU ALL SEE THE SCREEN? NO.

LET ME TRY THIS ONE.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN NOW? NO.

UM, WE CAN SEE IT NOW.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND THEN THE WALKWAY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS FROM AN EXISTING ADA PARKING SPOT, WHICH IS HERE.

SO HERE'S THE POOL AND HERE'S BOGGY CREEK HERE'S PER DENALIS AND WHEREVER WILL, AND THEN HERE'S NORTH PLEASANT VALLEY, AND THEN IT GOES ALL US.

SO THIS IS THE MAIN RECREATION CENTER.

THERE'S A PARKING LOT HERE.

THE WALKWAY FROM, UH, THE RECREATION CENTER TO THE POOL IS ESSENTIALLY THIS WALKWAY HERE AND HERE'S THE BRIDGE.

SO THERE'S AN EXIT FROM THE BUILDING AT THIS LOCATION THAT IS AN EXIT FOR THE BUILDING IN THIS LOCATION.

AND SO THAT TAKES YOU DOWN THIS WAY.

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AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD A WALKWAY AND ADA WALKWAY FROM HERE.

SOME STUFF'S LEADING TO THIS WALKWAY AND THEN INTO THE ENTRY HERE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE WALKWAY THAT TAKES YOU TO THE PLACE ESCAPE.

THIS IS A BASKETBALL COURT.

AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER WALKWAY THAT TAKES YOU DOWN TO NORTH PINELLAS.

AND I HAD MISS MISS INFORMED YOU ABOUT THE PARKING AREA.

THE PARKING AREA IS ACTUALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE MAIN RECREATION CENTER BUILDING, AND THEN ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY IS ALSO AVAILABLE OFF OF LIBREVILLE OR AN ANALYSIS THROUGH HERE.

AND THEN THE MAIN, THE BIKE LANE I SPOKE ABOUT IS LONG HERE, AND THEN THERE'S SIDEWALKS ALONG HERE.

AND THAT'S HOW WE GAINED ACCESS TO THE BATH HOUSE.

IT LOOKED LIKE ON GOOGLE EARTH THAT PEOPLE WERE HAVING TO WALK DOWN THAT ACCESS ASPHALT ROAD, UTILIZING IT AS A SIDEWALK.

AND THEN LIKE IN THAT MAYBE YOU COULD JUST WHAT I SAW ON GOOGLE EARTH.

BUT THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS REGARDING THE PARKING AT THE REC CENTER, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU CAN GET TO IT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE BUILDING.

IF YOU'RE IN THAT PARKING LOT, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET TO THE PLANS YOU WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO IT'S ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE PARKING, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, I BELIEVE YOU'RE CORRECT.

THEN I'LL HAVE TO CHECK.

I SEEM TO REMEMBER, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW OLD THIS IS, BUT I SEEM TO REMEMBER A PATHWAY ALONG THIS, THIS WAY HERE.

YOU'RE EXACTLY FOCUSED ON WHERE I WAS FOCUSED ON.

I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT THE PROJECT INTENSELY TO BE ABLE TO GO THAT WAY.

AGAIN, MY RESEARCH IS BY GOOGLE EARTH ALONE.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S, MY OBSERVATION IS JUST CONNECTIVITY WAS MY PRIMARY ISSUE ON THE PROJECT.

UM, COMMISSIONER CARROLL.

SO I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER COLEMAN IS PROBABLY STRUGGLING WITH IS WHAT I AM STRUGGLING WITH.

AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN SUFFICIENT EXHIBITS PROVIDED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S NO SITE PLAN.

SO YOU SAY THERE'S, THERE'S HANDICAP PARKING AND YOU SAY THERE'S BIKE PARKING, THERE'S ACCESSIBLE ROUTES, BUT WE DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT IN THESE EXHIBITS TO PROVIDE PROVIDED.

AND SO IT'S HARD FOR US TO REALLY EVALUATE THIS PROJECT BASED ON THAT.

I SEE ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU LIST ALL THESE, UM, LEAD ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GOING FOR, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO MATERIALS SHOWING HOW YOU'RE, HOW YOU'RE ACHIEVING THOSE.

FOR INSTANCE, YOU'RE LISTING THAT YOU'RE GOING FOR AN INNOVATION CREDIT FOR, UH, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FLOOR PLAN AND THAT'S ABOUT IT IN THE APPLICATION.

IT CLEARLY OUTLINES EXHIBITS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE TO PROPERLY EVALUATE THESE PROJECTS.

AND I JUST DON'T SEE THOSE WITH THIS, WITH THIS PRESENTATION.

SO IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING TO ME.

UM, MR. HERNANDEZ, IS THERE AN URGENCY AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION, OR WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE THESE EXHIBITS AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH, SO, UM, I THINK IN THE APPLICATION, THERE WAS AN ERROR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WERE, UM, AND WHAT THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS, WHERE WE AREN'T SEEKING A SITE PLAN.

WE ARE SEEKING A, AN EXEMPTIONS OF SITE PLAN.

UM, AND THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T INCLUDE A, A SITE PLAN.

UM, IF I, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO, LET'S SEE, HOW DO I GET OUT OF SHARING? UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO GET OUT OF THE SHARING MODE HERE, COMMISSIONER CAL.

I THINK THERE'S ALSO JUST A FUNDAMENTAL LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHY YOU'RE HERE.

YOU SPEND MANY SLIDES TALKING ABOUT THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING HERE TODAY.

SO I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DISCONNECT IS, UH, WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT WITH CITY STAFF, YOU KNOW, AS TO WHY YOU COME TO THE DESIGN COMMISSION, BUT IT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT REVIEWING URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THIS PROJECT.

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MY UNDERSTANDING OF, OF COMING TO YOU IS BECAUSE THIS IS A CITY BUILDING, IT'S A MUNICIPAL BUILDING THAT WE HAD TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO YOU ALL AND, AND RESPONSE TO THE APPLICATION.

AND I UNDERSTAND, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT, UH, DEMONSTRATING THAT SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE WANTING, BUT, UM, WE AREN'T SEEKING A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

THIS IS AN EXEMPTION WHERE USING ALL OF THE EXISTING, UH, SITE AMENITIES, UH, THAT ARE THERE, WE AREN'T PROPOSING ANY ADDITIONAL.

AND SO BASED ON THE APPLICATION, BASED ON THE, MY UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR PRE PREVIEW IS THAT WE ARE TO PRESENT WHAT WE ARE REHABILITATING AND HOW WE'RE DOING THAT.

UM, SO, UH, I'LL JUST CUT YOU OFF.

UM, WE'RE REVIEWING YOUR PROJECT, UH, TO SEE IF IT COMPLIES WITH THE CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS.

UM, WE'RE NOT REVIEWING FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.

UM, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT DOWNTOWN AND ALL CITY PROJECTS, UM, ARE, ARE REVIEWED WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS.

I SEE.

THAT'S AN INTERESTING INTERPRETATION.

IF I MAY, I MAY CLARIFY THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT THIS COMMISSIONER BELL RATES FOR IS THE URBAN DESIGN SIDE LIGHTS.

SO PROJECTS, CITY PROJECTS DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES ALONG WITH SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS, IF ANY.

SO OUTSIDE OF THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, THERE IS NO REVIEW FOR SAY COMMERCIAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS, THAT IS AN INTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE CITY STAFF FUNCTION THAT HAS WORKED OUT WITH THE DESIGN TEAM.

THEY MAY PRESENT THOSE TO YOU IF THERE'S, UM, VARIOUS AS OR ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, THEY WISH TO ACCOMPLISH BEING A CITY PROJECT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS NO ATC BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND THEREFORE THE PROJECT CHOSE TO PRESENT COMPLIANCE WITH THE URBAN DESIGN KINDNESS, WHICH OUR CITY DESIGN GUIDELINES, AS WELL AS SUSTAINABILITY EXTENSIVE, THANK YOU.

THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE AGENDAS THEATER.

THE AGENDA SAYS COMPLIANCE WITH CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS.

THAT'S CORRECT THERE.

IF I MAY, THAT REFLECTS THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION EXPRESSED LANGUAGE, CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS IS VERBATIM FROM THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION GIVEN DIRECTION TO CITY PROJECTS, CITY MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, AND ASSOCIATED SITE DEVELOPMENTS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE DESIGN COMMISSION FOR REVIEW OF COMPLIANCE WITH CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS.

SO EVEN THOUGH THE AGENDA SAYS THAT HE DESIGNED IN SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS, WE SHOULD EVALUATE IT WITH URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES IS A TYPE OF CITY DESIGN SO THAT THERE ARE STANDARDS FOR CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABILITY.

THE ONLY DOCUMENT THAT COUNCIL HAS GIVEN YOU TO EVALUATE PROJECTS WITH, FOR THIS COMMISSION IS THE EUROPEAN DESIGN KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE, YOU DON'T REVIEW FOR COMMERCIAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THAT CENTRAL SITE PLAN REVIEW.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS BEEN DISCUSSING COMMERCIAL DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT IT DOES SAY SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS.

THAT'S AN EXAMPLE CHAIR.

SO I'M JUST GIVING YOU AN EXAMPLE AT THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO EVALUATE PROJECTS THROUGH THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.

THERE IS NO OTHER MECHANISM FOR YOU TO REVIEW OTHER THAN TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY STAFF OR DON'T EQUIPMENT COMPLIANCE FOR SUB CAPILLARY SPECIFICS.

UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE COMMENTS, MR. MARKEL? WELL, IN THAT CASE, I JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT COMPLY WITH URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES BECAUSE IT'S NOWHERE CLOSE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

UM, ON BEHALF OF THE DESIGN COMMISSION, WE DID NOT FIND THAT THE PROJECT COMPLIANCE WITH THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.

I DON'T WANT TO BE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

YOU NEED TO CALL THE QUESTION.

UM, MOVING TO A VOTE.

UM, DOES ANYONE WANT TO MOVE THE PROJECT? UM, DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

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I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND.

I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO CALL, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE WAS A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CARROLL SECOND BY THE CHAIR THAT THE PROJECT DOES NOT NEED THE URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE.

SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

IF YOU NEED TO ATTEND TWO OR LESS, THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT SPINOFF COMMISSIONER LUKINS IT'S MINE.

SO WE CAN KEEP EITHER ACTION.

SO YOU'LL NEED A SECOND COMMISSION.

HAS ANYONE SECOND COMMISSIONER LUKENS MOTION FOR DISCUSSION.

CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT? I DID NOT CATCH IT CHAIR, MR. LUKINS PULLEY WITH.

SO YEAH.

SO SUBDUED MOTION WAS THAT IT DOES COMPLY.

DOES ANYTHING BACK IN THIS MOTION? COMMISSIONER WATLEY.

SO WHAT DO WE DO NOW? I'D LIKE TO ASK COMMISSIONER TERRELL.

I UNDERSTAND.

UM, ABSOLUTELY.

UH, IT DOESN'T BUILD TO THE STREET.

IT DOESN'T PROVIDE, UH, UH, PEDESTRIAN, UH, ACTIVATION AT THE STREET.

IT DOESN'T EVEN PROVIDE SIDEWALKS TO THE BUILDING.

I MEAN, THERE'S 47 GUIDELINES.

THAT'S PROBABLY MEETS FIVE OF THEM.

IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT'S NOT A GOOD PROJECT, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THEM.

THEY'RE OFTEN OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY CASE IN POINT THE PORT-A-POTTIES FOR 10 YEARS, THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW PROJECTS BASED UPON DESIGN GUIDELINES, AND WE REQUEST A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INFORMATION FROM EVERYONE, WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT FOR THAT REASON ALONE.

UM, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ALMOST AT EVERY MEETING, REVIEWING THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES SO THAT WE CAN CALL THEM OUT, UM, BY POINTS FOR COMPLIANCE OR, UM, SO THIS IS JUST A REMINDER BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING TO TRY TO BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE CODES WITH THEM.

UM, ALL RIGHT, SO YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR CHAIR THAT THE PROJECT DOES COMPLY.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABLE SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS.

WELL, BASED ON WHAT , UH, UH, EXPLANATION, UH, I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

SO YOU'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION CHAIR THAT THE PROJECT DOES NOT COMPLY THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDANCE.

SO SECOND TO THAT, YOU'RE ABOUT TO CALL THE QUESTION.

DOES ANYONE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT? OR CAN WE MOVE TO A VOTE COMMISSIONER IN A ROBLEDO? UM, MY ONLY, UM, MY CHALLENGE HERE IS DUE TO THE LACK OF INFORMATION SHARED OF DETERMINING WHETHER IT MEETS THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES OR NOT.

SO AS IS WITH WHAT'S BEING SHARED TODAY IS ONE ANSWER.

BUT IF THERE ARE THE POTENTIAL OF ADDITIONAL EXHIBITS THAT JUST WEREN'T SHARED TODAY, THAT COULD BE VERY DIFFERENT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MAKES US LAND, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

AND IF THE APPLICANT CAN BRING EXHIBITS BACK FOR NEXT MONTH, THEN WE COULD DISCUSS THE PROJECTS, BUT WE JUST REALLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE ACCESSIBILITY PATH AND SHADE ON THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS, UM, KIND OF ASPECTS OF THE URBAN FIND GUIDELINES, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TO TALK ABOUT COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

UH, JUST TO REITERATE WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING, I THINK IS A GENERAL LACK OF INFORMATION BECAUSE WE GET SO FEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CONNECTED TISSUE AND THE IMPORTANT THINGS.

WHEN PROJECTS LIKE THIS I'VE LIMITED BUDGETS, WHICH WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT

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I AGREE DUE TO LACK OF INFORMATION, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS AS AN APPROVED, BROUGHT PRETTY TO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, UM, FOR THAT REASON ALIGNMENT ALONE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

UM, OR, HEY, ARE YOU ABLE TO GET TOGETHER WITH THE APPLICANT AND PROVIDE THE DESIGN GUIDELINES SO THAT THEY CAN SEE THE EXHIBITS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR TO DISCUSS NEXT MONTH? YES, YES.

THOSE WERE PROVIDED TO THE DESIGN TEAM.

WE BELIEVE PART OF THE ISSUE THAT IS THAT.

AND IS THAT THERE'S A LACK OF A SITE PLAN, WHICH IS PART OF THE MISSING INFORMATION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT THE COMPLETE CERTAIN INFORMATION.

AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE DESIGN TEAM IS SITTING IN THE SITE PLAN EXEMPTION, THE LIKELIHOOD OF ME GETTING A SITE PLAN IS, IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY, RIGHT? BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A FORMAL SITE PLAN.

LIKE I UNDERSTAND THE SITE PLAN EXEMPTION PROCESS, BUT EVEN SKETCHES ARE JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRENDS, THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A DRAWING TURNED OVER TO CONTRACTORS.

SO WE CERTAINLY CAN REVIEW THAT.

WELL, I WOULD DEFER TO THE DESIGN TEAM TO THAT QUESTION.

WE'RE NOT ABLE TO REPRODUCE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL.

WE'RE NOT PART OF THAT.

SO IN TERMS OF A, OF A SITE PLAN OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT CAN BE PROVIDED, BUT THERE ARE NO MODIFICATIONS PLANNED, UM, FOR THE SITE PLAN.

UH, THE ONLY MODIFICATION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS AN ADA, UH, ACCESS TO THE FRONT ENTRY, THE DOOR OF THE BATH HOUSE FROM AN EXISTING ADA PARKING SPOT.

UH, THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE, UH, WHICH IS UNDERNEATH THESE TREES OR UNDERNEATH TREES.

YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

UM, AND IT'S ALSO SERVES AS THE ADA, UH, CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE PARKING SPOT FOR THE POOL.

OH, UH, ALL RIGHT, MS. LINNBAKER WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, THANK YOU.

I, THIS IS LAURIE LINNBAKER.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THERE IS A SITE PLAN INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION ON SLIDE TWO.

EXCUSE ME.

WE'LL NEED YOU ON CAMERA PLEASE, TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN BE ON CAMERA.

I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION AND LESSER ON CAMERA.

ADA ACCESS, THIS IS THE, UH, THIS LARGE, THIS WIDENED WALKWAY DOES, IS ADA COMPLIANT.

SO THERE IS A SITE PLAN, AS LORI WAS SAYING ON, UH, ONE OF THE SLIDES AND THAT DEMONSTRATES WHERE, HOW THE ACCESS TO THE BATH HOUSE WILL BE ACHIEVED.

UM, SO THE ADA PARKING SPOT IS AT THE VERY END OF THE SERVICE DRIVE, WHERE THE WALKWAY CONNECTS TO THE PARK SITE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED ADA WALKWAY, UH, THAT IS BEING PLANNED, UH, LEADING TO THE FRONT ENTRY.

SO, UM, IT'S AT THE VERY CORNER, THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING THAT IS WHERE THE, UH, THE ENTRY TO THE, THE BUILDING IS GOING TO OCCUR.

SO WE'RE USING ALL OF THE EXISTING PATHWAYS, UH, THAT THE COMMUNITY IS FAMILIAR WITH IN ORDER TO ACCESS THE FACILITY.

ISN'T THAT A SERVICE DRIVE THAT THE ADA SIDEWALK IS COMING FROM.

IT'S NOT, I KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE WEEDS HERE, BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR TO US THAT IT'S ADA, THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO JUST BELIEVE THAT IT IS CAUSE THAT IT NEEDS CODE, BUT WE DON'T SEE IT STRIKES THAT MUCH, BUT ISN'T THAT LIKE AN ASPHALT SERVICE FIRE.

SO THIS THERE'S A SET OF BOLLARDS AT THE END OF THE TERMINUS OF THIS LONG WIDE WALKWAY.

UH, THE PARK, THE, UH, THE PARK ITSELF HAD, UM, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, REFURBISHED THE PLAYSCAPE.

UM, SO THE PLAYSCAPE IS JUST TO THE EAST OF THE BATH HOUSE.

AND WHEN THEY REFURBISHED THAT THEY REMOVED THE, UM, THE USE OF THIS WIDE WALKWAY FROM A SERVICE DRIVE TO JUST A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, UM, PATH.

AND SO FOR

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AND IT DOES CONNECT TO THAT ADA SPACE, WHICH IS AT THE VERY END OF THE SERVICE DRIVE.

SO THERE'S NO OTHER DROP-OFF FOR PEOPLE, RIGHT? JUST ADA, THERE'S NO PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, IS THAT CORRECT? OTHER THAN WANTING PARKING? SO THEN MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO HOW DOES EVERYBODY ELSE GET HERE FROM THE REC CENTER? SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE DIAGRAMS HELP US BECAUSE WE LOOK AT PUBLIC REALM AND CONNECTIVITY ON ANY PROJECT UNDER ANY CRITERIA, WHETHER IT'S SUSTAINABILITY OR WHETHER IT'S URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M EXCITED ON THE CONNECTIVITY.

UM, AND THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE, BUT TO ME, THE DIAGRAMS DON'T SPEAK TO CONNECTIVITY AND OUR COMMENT A CAN.

AND THAT IS, UM, I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY THAT THE GRAPHICS ARE A LITTLE BIT HARDER.

THE SITE PLAN THE SCALE, IT'S HARD TO DECIPHER WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT IT APPEARS TO ME THERE'S SOME NUMBER OF ACCESS HAS, AND, UH, THERE'S PARKING AT THE MAIN, UH, REC CENTER.

YOU GO ACROSS THE, UH, UM, WATERWAY THERE AND, UH, AND COME AROUND.

THERE'S SOME STAIRS THAT ARE BEING ELIMINATED.

SO IT'S ACCESSIBLE.

UM, I THINK THIS IS KIND OF, IT REMINDS ME OF SOME PAST PROJECTS THAT ARE KIND OF IN SUBURBAN AREAS OR APPLE LIMITED SCOPE.

SO AS THIS COMPLIANT, IF WE LOOK AT COMPLIANCE WITH THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, I GUESS, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND, UM, AND WHERE ITS LOCATION IS.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY RENOVATION OF A BUILDING.

YOU CAN'T REALLY JUDGE IT POORLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT BUILT TO THE STREET.

UM, IT'S LIKE A PUMP HOUSE WE HAD YEARS BACK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH TO COMMENT ON.

UM, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS LIKE, UH, AVOIDING DISTURB HISTORICAL MISREPRESENTATIONS OR RECYCLING BUILDING STOCK, OR CONTRIBUTING TO AN OPEN SPACE NETWORK IN OTHERS.

THERE'S SOME ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN OUR URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT, YOU KNOW, OR A POLITICAL BOOK, MAYBE THERE, THERE ARE A LOT FEWER THAN A DOWNTOWN PROJECT, BUT ANY WAY THAT I'M LOOKING FOR THOSE PIECES OF THIS PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, DO APPLY WITH URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.

AND I'M TRYING TO NOT, YOU KNOW, INCREASE THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

I GUESS THE BUDGET'S BEEN SET AND SCOPE HAS BEEN SET AND THE BUILDING IS KIND OF WHERE IT IS.

AND SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE LIMITED SCOPE OF ITEMS. I SAW THAT, THAT THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LIGHTLY.

UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO CHANGE? UM, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT THE PROJECT DOES NOT COMPLY.

UM, DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE ON THAT LITTLE EMOTIONAL IN THE SECOND? YOU NEED TO CALL THE QUESTION.

I NEED TO CALL THE BLUE.

UM, ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER IS, DO WE WANT TO VOTE THAT THE PROJECT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES? ONE YES.

TO THAT'S THAT'S THE APPLICANT WANTS TO GRADE SOME BETTER EXHIBITS COME BACK.

YEAH, I THINK GENERALLY THAT IS WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN ASKING FOR.

IT'S A COMMISSION IS MORE EXHIBITS.

WE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK COMMISSIONER WATLEY BROUGHT UP SOME GREAT POINTS THAT WOULD NOT BE ON A SITE PLAN.

UM, SO WE, WE COULD NOT VOTE AND JUST HAVE THE APPLICANT COME BACK TO, IT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF US WANT TO DEAL OPTION.

UM, I ALMOST CALLED YOU COMMANDER CHAIR, IF I MAY COMMANDER, I MEAN, CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK THE OPINION THEY WOULD WANT TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND IF THEY DO, YOU WILL NEED A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO OVERRIDE YOUR CURRENT MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

MR. HERNANDEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK TO DESIGN COMMISSION NEXT MONTH? UH, YES.

THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

EXCUSE ME.

IT'D BE AN AUGUST.

MY APOLOGIES.

THERE'S NO MEANING TO THAT MAKES

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SENSE.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE THE END OF AUGUST.

UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EXHIBITS? UM, YES, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE EXHIBITS.

SO TERRIFY ME.

YOU'LL NEED A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION.

UM, CHAIR, I MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

I MOVED TO HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE ASKED THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO PLEASE RETURN BACK WITH SITE PLAN, EXHIBITS, DEMONSTRATING CONNECTIVITY, ANY SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES THAT THEY'RE PUTTING FORWARD, ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES AT THE END OF AUGUST.

COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? RIGHT? WE HAVE TWO SECONDS.

UM, MISSIONARY SALINAS WAS THE SECOND.

UM, RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE IT TO DISCUSSION.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE TO VOTE? NO.

ALRIGHT.

UM, COMMISSIONER, YOU MOVE TO REQUEST, UH, MR. HERNANDEZ TO RETURN NEXT MONTH.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ITEM ONE, B DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO EVALUATE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING WHETHER THE COUNTRY CLUB CREEK TRAIL PROJECTS LOCATING LOCATED ALONG COUNTRY CLUB CREEK WEST FROM WICKERSHAM LEAN TO EAST, ALL 12 COMPLAINTS WITH THE CITY DESIGN SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON.

I THINK THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MR. HERNANDEZ.

WE'LL SEE YOU IN AUGUST.

[1.b. Discussion and possible action to evaluate and make recommendations regarding whether the Country Club Creek Trail Project, located along Country Club Creek West from Wickersham Ln. to E Oltorf St., complies with the City Design and Sustainability Standards, for the City of Austin. Dylan Johnstone – Public Works]

IT'S AN AD BY DYLAN JOHNSTONE FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

DYLAN, CAN YOU PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON? YES, LET ME, UH, LOOK FOR HOW TO THEM.

THE SOUTH, UH, IN THE TRAIL IS COUNCIL ADOPTED INTO THE ALL AGES AND ABILITIES BICYCLE NETWORK AND THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN OR THE ASN P UM, IN 2019 NEXT SLIDE, BEFORE THE TRAIL WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2014 OR CONTROLS PLAN, IT WAS A VISION OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE OTHER, CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE THE PRESENTATION SCIENCE ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS DYLAN JOHNSTON.

I'M A PROJECT COORDINATOR WITH URBAN TRAILS PROGRAM.

UM, I'M JOINED BY DJI ACTIVE COMMUNITIES, UH, SORRY, ACTING COMMUNITY SERVICES, DIVISION MANAGER, CASE MANAGER, KATIE WEDIG, UM, IS GOING TO BE HERE TO HELP WITH QUESTIONS AT THE END.

UM, I WILL START BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THIS BY SAYING THAT, UM, THIS IS AN URBAN TRAILS PROJECT.

UM, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO BUILD ANY BUILDINGS.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, OF THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES HAS BEEN THAT THEY WERE DEVELOPED ORIGINALLY, UM, TO LOOK AT, UH, YOU KNOW, URBAN DESIGN BEST PRACTICES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND THAT WAS LATER EXPANDED TO SORT OF CITYWIDE.

UM, I DID MY BEST TO ANSWER THE, UH, PROJECT REVIEW APPLICATION, THINKING ABOUT, UM, HOW THE SHARED VISION OF THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES, UH, WOULD, UH, RELATE TO AN URBAN TRAIL PROJECT.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A LINEAR PATH WITH ASSOCIATED DEPENDENCIES.

UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN BUILDING A BUILDING.

UM, SO I'LL JUST START PREP US ALL THAT WITH THAT.

UM, BUT I'M GONNA LEAD YOU THROUGH KIND OF A BRIEFING OF WHAT THIS PROJECT ENTAILS, UM, INCLUDING SOME SUSTAINABILITY ELEMENTS OF IT THAT ARE INCLUDED.

UM, SO LET'S, LET'S JUMP INTO IT.

UM, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

GREAT.

SO THIS PROJECT IS BEING LED BY THEIR CONTROLS PROGRAM IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND WE'RE VERY CLOSE, UH, CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT AND A GREAT TEAM OF CONSULTANTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE, UM, IN JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO I'LL START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND HIGH LEVEL PLANNING FOR THIS TRAIL.

THE COUNTRY CLUB CREEK TRAIL WAS NAMED IN THE URBAN TRAILS PLAN.

IT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN 2014 AS A TIER ONE OR A HIGH PRIORITY TRAIL.

UM, IT'S 3.5 MILES LONG STRETCHING FOR BRIDGETTE GUERRERA METRO PARK TWO, MAYBE WE'LL GET TO MABEL DAVIS DISTRICT PARK IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN.

UM, IT CONNECTS TO THE BUTLER TRAIL AT LABOUR LAKE ON THE NORTHERN END AND TWO NEIGHBORHOODS PARK ONTO

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UM, IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS CLUB CREEK TRAIL WAS FIRST IMAGINED AS AN EXTENSION OF A MULTI-USE TRAIL THAT WAS BUILT IN THE COUNTRY CLUB CREEK GREENBELT, WHICH IS LOCATED BETWEEN BURLESON ROAD AND SOUTHWEST VALLEY ROAD.

UM, IN THE EAST, RIVERSIDE IS, UH, AN OLD, OLDER COMBINED, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN COMMUNITY AND NOTED THAT THERE WAS A PHYSICAL LAYOUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY CREATED, UM, UNSAFE AND DIFFICULT CHALLENGES FOR WALKING AND BIKING TO LOCAL PARKS, UM, IN BETWEEN 20, UH, OR SORRY, 2005 AND 2008, THE SOUTHEAST AUSTIN TRAILS AND GREENWAY ALLIANCE, WHICH IS A, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION, UH, PARTNERED WITH THE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION HAD, UH, 200 VOLUNTEERS THAT CAME OUT AND HELPED TO BUILD A CRUSHED GRANITE TRAIL IN REGGIE DREYER APART THAT EXTENDED TO ELMONT DRIVE AND WHICH STILL EXISTS TODAY AS PART OF THE COUNTRY CLUB CREEK TRAIL.

THE NEXT SLIDE.

TO ADDRESS A STRAIN INJURY LOW-LYING AREAS.

UM, SO THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE, UH, BUILDING A LAST SORT OF CRUCIAL SEGMENT THAT WILL CREATE THIS CONTINUOUS TRAIL FROM LADY BIRD LAKE TO NAVAL DAVIS PARK.

UM, BUT GIVEN HOW THIS TRAIL HAS JUST BEEN BUILT AS A LOT OF DIFFERENT SMALL PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, UM, HAS LARGELY BEEN BUILT IN AN ALREADY DEVELOPED AREA.

UM, THERE'S DEFINITELY A FEW DIFFERENT LOOKS AND FEELS TO THE TRAIL ITSELF.

UM, SO STARTING AT THE TOP OF THIS MAP, UM, IN REGGIE BREWER PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, WE HAVE THAT CRUSHED GRANITE TRAIL THAT I JUST MENTIONED THAT EXTENDS DOWN TO ELMONT TRIBE.

UM, IN 2019, THE TRAIL WAS EXTENDED, UM, ALONG ELMONT IN WHICH WICKERSHAM DRIVE AS A TWO-WAY PROTECTED BIKE WAY.

UM, IT SHOULDN'T IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, UH, THAT SHOWS A BARRIER CURB AND A SIDEWALK.

UM, AND THIS EXTENDS DOWN TO EASTERN RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

UH, IT'S EXPECTED WHEN THIS AREA REDEVELOPS IN THE FUTURE.

AS WE KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SEA SERVER-SIDE AREA.

UM, IT'S EXPECTED THAT THIS SECTION IS GOING TO BE RELOCATED.

THE SECTION OF THE TRAIL WILL BE RELOCATED AND REBUILT, UM, CLOSER TO THE CREEK IN THE FUTURE.

UM, OUR CURRENT PROJECT, LIKE I SAID, PICKS UP THAT EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND QUEUES DOWN SOUTH TO OLD TOUR.

UM, AND THEN THERE, IT'S GOING TO CONNECT AND TO SHARE THESE PATHS THAT EXTEND ALONG, UH, SOME PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD.

AND THAT'S THE PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT.

UM, AND THEN ON THE FAR BOTTOM, RIGHT, UM, CONTINUING FURTHER SOUTH, THE TRAIL CONNECTS BETWEEN BURLESON ROAD IN VENTURA DRIVE THROUGH AN OSCAR, AN OFF-STREET TRAIL EASEMENT FROM AUSTIN ENERGY AND CONNECTS DOWN TO MAPLE NETTLES PARK VIA A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

GO NEXT SLIDE.

SO STARTING BACK IN 2014, THE CITY STUDIED THIS TRAILER PRODUCE A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT, ALSO CALLED A PR FOR SHORT, UM, THE PR STUDY OF THE FEASIBILITY OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING EVALUATING SEVERAL DIFFERENT TRAILERS, SEVEN SEVERAL DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES FOR THE TRAIL ALIGNMENT.

UM, DURING THE PR TWO BOOK, TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS WERE HELD TOGETHER COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED TRAIL ALIGNMENT.

UM, AND THEN DURING DESIGN, THE PROJECT TEAM HOSTED A THIRD PUBLIC MEETING IN APRIL, 2019.

UM, FROM THIS MEETING, WE GENERALLY HEARD SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PROJECT.

WE HEARD THE NEED FOR AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE DESIGN FOR THE TRAIL DUE TO, UM, CONCERNS AROUND FLOODING AND EROSION IN THE AREA.

UM, AS WELL AS WE HEARD SUPPORT FOR BUILDING SAFE CROSSINGS AT THE BUSY INTERSECTIONS, UH, TO BEST ADDRESS THE FLOODING AND EROSION CONCERNS WE PARTNER WITH PARTNERED WITH THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT, UM, TO STABILIZE THE CREEK OVER COORDINATING CLOSELY WITH AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION FOR THE SAFE INTERSECTION CROSSINGS, WHERE WE CAN'T, UM, MAKE THE TRAIL GRADE SEPARATED.

UH, THE PROJECT TEAM ALSO PRESENTED UPDATES TO THE, UM, BICYCLE ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THE SCREENING ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION IN DECEMBER OF 2019.

UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WRAPPING UP ON 90% DESIGN AND WE'VE RECENTLY SUBMITTED FOR SITE PLAN PERMITTING EARLIER THIS MONTH, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THIS PROJECT WILL BUILD, UM, 0.2 0.6 MILES OF OFF STREET CONCRETE TRAIL.

IT'S, THAT'LL BE 12 FEET WIDE WITH GRASS, SHOULDERS AND LANDSCAPING.

UM, THE TRAIL WILL BE BUILT TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE AND BE SUITABLE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES TO USE.

UM, TWO SECTIONS OF THE TRAIL ARE RAISED BOARDWALK

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UM, THE TRAIL WILL ALSO INCLUDE AN UNDERPASS THE EASTERN SIDE DRIVE.

THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING TO AVOID CROSSING MULTIPLE LANES OF TRAFFIC.

THAT'S GONE EAST RIVERSIDE.

UM, WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE PLEASANT AND A SAFER ALTERNATIVE TO GET ACROSS THE RIVERSIDE THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW.

UM, AND WE ARE IN COORDINATION WITH THE PROJECT CONNECT BLUE LINE TEAM FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS AS THEY COME THROUGH WITH, UM, FUTURE CHANGES FOR THE CORRIDOR AS WELL.

UM, ONE THING I DIDN'T LIST HERE, BUT WHEN IT DIMENSION IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS ALSO INSTALLING A TRAIL WAYFINDING SIGNS TO PROVIDE DIRECTIONAL GUIDANCE FOR USERS.

UM, AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO TRAIL FINDING SIGNS THAT WE'VE USED FOR THE, UM, SOUTHERN WALNUT CREEK TRAIL.

UM, AND WE'RE INSTALLING ON ALL OF OUR NEW TRAIL PROJECTS AS WELL.

AND THAT, UM, WAYFINDING IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GO FROM, UM, RICHARD GREER PARK WHERE THE COUNTRY CLUB CREEK TRAIL STARTS ALL THE WAY TO ENABLE DATA.

SO IT'LL EXTEND THE ENTIRE LENGTH ON ONCE THE SECTION GOES IN AND MAKES EVERYTHING CONTINUOUS.

LET ME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UH, WE ALSO PLAN TO INSTALL A SWIRLED SOLAR LIGHTING TO MAKE IT EASIER AND MORE COMFORTABLE TO TRAVEL EARLY IN THE MORNING OR AT NIGHT.

UM, THE LIGHTING IS DARK SKYPE, UH, FRIENDLY, CERTIFIED, WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR THE URBAN SHELLS PLAN.

UM, AND THEN HERE IN SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS LOOKS INSTALLED ALONG THE UPPER BUCKET CREEK IN EAST AUSTIN.

UM, THIS IS THE, UH, TYPICAL LIGHTING THAT WE INSTALL ALONG TRAILS, UM, FOR EASE OF MAINTENANCE AND, AND, UM, YEAH, YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE ARE PARTNERING WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION TO ADDRESS ONGOING EROSION ISSUES ALONG COUNTRY CLUB CREEK WEST.

UM, AND THIS WORK INCLUDES LOOKING AT, OR ADDING, UH, PROTECTIVE WORKS INTO THE STREAM BED, UM, TO ADDRESS THOSE EROSION ISSUES, UM, NATIVE PLANTINGS IN THE UPPER AND LOWER RECREATION AREAS, THAT'S GOING TO HELP TO STABILIZE THE SLOPES, UM, AND THEN ESTABLISHING A WILDFLOWER MEADOW MEADOW THERE'LL BE ORDERED BY A SPLIT RAIL FENCE AND LIMESTONE OLDERS THAT CAN BE USED FOR SEEDING AS A TRAIL AMENITY.

GOOD.

EXCELLENT.

AND THIS IS, UM, HOPEFULLY NOT TOO HARD TO SEE FOR FOLKS, BUT I REALIZE NOW THAT THIS TEXT IS VERY SMALL, SO I'M GOING TO READ IT OUT AND STARTING FROM THE TOP, UM, WITH THAT BLACK ARROW WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE COUNTRY CLUB CREEK TRAIL EXTENDS TO RAGEY, WHICH IS GOING NORTH.

UM, SO THE TRAIL RUNS ALONG THE EASEMENT.

THAT'S NEXT TO THE CREEK.

IT'S GOING PAST SEVERAL LOW AND MEDIUM DENSITY, APARTMENT COMPLEXES BETWEEN OLD TORQUE AND RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

UM, STARTING ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE PROJECT LIMITS, UM, EXISTING COUNTRY CLUB CREEK TRAIL, THAT'S ON A WICKERSHAM GOING NORTH, LIKE I SAID, UM, JUST SOUTH OF THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, WE'VE GOT AN, A BIKE RAMP AND A SIDEWALK CONNECTION THAT CONNECTS TO EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION, AS WELL AS THE TRAIL PATH UNDERPASS GOING UNDER EAST RIVERSIDE.

AND THEN IT CONNECTION ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

UM, ALSO GOING UP TO EAST RIVERSIDE, SO YOU CAN REALLY CONNECT, UM, ON EITHER SIDE THERE EASILY.

UM, MOVING A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH OF THAT IS WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING STREAM THE STREAM BANK AND LANDSCAPE RESTORATION WORK BETWEEN, UH, SHARING AND DRIVE IN EAST RIVERSIDE.

UM, WE ARE GOING TO CONNECT THE TRAIL, UM, TO SHARING AND DRIVE WITH, UM, WITH A CURB CUT THERE.

AND THEN, UM, A LITTLE SOUTH OF THAT IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING BOARDWALK TO BE ABLE TO CROSS THE LINE, UH, DRAINAGE DRAINAGE AREAS, UM, THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE.

AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO THE VERY SOUTH THAT ARE THE VERY BOTTOM OF THIS IMAGE.

UM, WE'RE CONNECTING TO THE SHARED USE PATH, UM, ON WHERE THE OFF STREET TRAIL BEGINS, UM, TO THE CORNER OF SOUTH PLEASANT VALLEY AND OLTORF, AND THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING COUNTRY CLUB CREEK TRAIL ON SOUTH PLEASANT VALLEY AND CONTINUE SOUTH TOWARDS NAVAL DAVIS AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS WAS A GOOD ONE TO INCLUDE HERE ON THE END, BUT THAT'S IT THAT I HAVE REAL.

UM, SO WE ARE CURRENTLY SORT OF WRAPPING UP THE DESIGN PHASE AS WE'RE ENTERING, UM, SITE PLAN PERMITTING, UM, HOPING TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS HERE BY SUMMER OF 2022.

UM, WE'RE ALSO DOING COMMISSION BRIEFINGS, UM, AS WELL RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO BE MOVING, UM, INTO BIDDING THE PROJECT BY EARLY 2023 AND, UM, STARTING CONSTRUCTION BY PROBABLY SPRING OR SUMMER OF 2023.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND, UM, THIS IS GOOD, JUST A GOOD IMAGE OF WHAT THE CREEK LOOKS LIKE.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE SOME OF THAT EROSION, UM, HEADED AND WE'RE LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS SEES ROCHE RIVERSIDE HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OFF TO THE RIGHT, UM, SEPARATED.

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UM, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, DYLAN, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, PATIENT DILLON, INCREDIBLE CONNECTIVITY, OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, ONE THING I NOTICED AS I DID MY HOMEWORK IS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS STATE THAT WE ARE USING ST.

AUGUSTINE GRASS AS PART OF OUR REVEGETATION THAT CAUGHT MY EYE.

WHY IS THAT? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.

UM, SO RAISING THE ST.

AUGUSTINE GRASS, OH, DOWN NEAR WHERE THE, UM, WHERE THEY'RE DOING THE PURPOSE FOR THE CREEK, UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S EXISTING ST.

AUGUSTINE GRASS THERE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING REALLY WELL ON THE AREA GETS FLOODED QUITE FREQUENTLY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE BANKS OF IT.

SO IT'S, IT'S DOING REALLY WELL ON ITS OWN, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THAT IS THERE TO FEED IT.

UM, SO THAT'S, I THINK THE, THAT WAS A DECISION THAT WATERSHED PROTECTION, UM, FELT WAS, WAS RIGHT FOR THE PROJECT.

UM, AND WE LISTENED.

SO THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

I JUST WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT, SHARE THAT WITH YOUR FELLOW REVIEWERS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT, THAT FIND THAT ST AUGUSTINE'S THE RIGHT DECISION IN SOME CASES, BECAUSE IT DOES GET DENIED.

SO SHARE THAT WITH PEOPLE THAT'D BE HELPFUL.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

UM, I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER BACKGROUND PIECES I DIDN'T MENTION IS JUST THAT WHEN WATERED AND FED AND Y'ALL Y'ALL MIGHT KNOW THIS FROM OTHER PROJECTS ALREADY THAT, YOU KNOW, WATERSHED PROTECTION IS LOOKING AT KIND OF A FUNCTIONAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SORT OF LIKE SCORING MATRIX C'S AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT THEY'RE DOING WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTS.

SO PART OF THIS PROJECTS, UH, WHAT WE HAD TO DO IS SORT OF LIKE SHOW WHERE THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO SHOW IS THAT WE ARE IMPROVING THE HEALTH OF THE FLOOD PLAIN THROUGH THE LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WERE ADDING ON IN THE RESTORATION AND PROTECTIVE WORKS THAT WE'RE ADDING.

UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS KIND OF A PIECE OF IT.

AND THAT, THAT WAS GOING INTO ALL OF THOSE DECISIONS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT PLANTS WERE BEING CHOSEN IN TERMS OF NATIVE, NATIVE PLANTINGS AND HOW, UM, THEY WOULD DO THEN, UH, WITHIN THE PROTECTIVE WORKS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT RIP RAP AND IT'S LIKE SOIL CHOKE, RIP RAP.

SO IT CAN HOLD THESE NATIVE PLANTINGS IN THEM AND REVEGETATE THE CHANNEL.

UM, BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR THE, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE NATIVE PLANT LISTING AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE DOCUMENTS.

SO I'M JUST OUT OF PERSONAL CURIOSITY.

I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I BELIEVE I INCLUDED IT AND GOT HER AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I DIDN'T, BUT I THINK PART OF THE LANDSCAPING PLANS, THERE SHOULD BE, UM, A LIST OF THE PLANTS THAT WERE INCLUDED WITH THE PROJECT, UM, TOWARDS THE END OF THE LANDSCAPING PLANS.

THERE'S A SECOND THAT COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE ON LA 103.

I'LL LOOK DEEPER THIS TIME.

IF THE WAY FINDING SIGN ISN'T ENOUGH, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO KIND OF TIE IT TOGETHER VISUALLY? UM, THE URBAN TRAILS, LIKE THE SECTION THAT WE'RE BUILDING FOR THIS PROJECT, UM, IS FAIRLY LIKE CONSISTENT WITH HOW THE SECTION THAT WAS BUILT NEAR THE TRAIL.

UM, ANYBODY ELSE? MISSIONARY HANOVER BLEDEL.

IT'S MY, UH, ELECTRICITY BLIPPED THERE FOR A MINUTE.

UM, SO I MISSED A FEW THINGS.

ONE, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UM, TRAIL PORTIONS OF THIS TRAIL.

THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I TAKE THESE A LOT.

AND JUST THE COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE THAT MAYBE I MISSED.

I ASSUME YOU GUYS ARE WORKING WITH PROJECT CONNECT AND THE BLUE LINE.

YAY.

AND THEN ALSO, SO I WASN'T AWARE, I KNOW THESE INDIVIDUAL IMAGES, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS ALL A TRAIL, IF YOU WILL.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SIGNAGE.

IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE DESIGN, SOME SORT OF INTEGRAL, CONCRETE COLOR, SOME SORT OF SOMETHING THAT LETS YOU VISUALLY KNOW THAT THE TRAIL IS STILL THERE.

LIKE I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR PURPLE OR I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH HAPPENING HERE.

AND I GUESS THIS IS JUST THE FIRST TIME I'VE THOUGHT OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT VERSUS THIS JUST KIND OF DISAPPEARS IN THE LANDSCAPE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE OR A PAVING PATTERN OR YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THAT DOES MAKE SENSE.

THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT FOR THIS TRAIL, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER THAT SLIDE THAT SHOWED YOU MULTIPLE, LIKE HOW IT HAS DIFFERENT LOOKS AND FIELDS.

UM, BECAUSE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, BUILT OVER MANY DIFFERENT PROJECTS OVER MANY DIFFERENT YEARS.

UM, BUT I THINK THE WAYFINDING IS ONE OF THOSE PIECES.

LIKE THE SIGNAGE ITSELF WILL HELP TO TIE SOME OF THAT TOGETHER, BUT WE HAVEN'T SO FAR TALKED ABOUT IT.

THAT'S A GOOD THING TO THINK ABOUT IS HOW, IF, YOU KNOW,

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THE ENERGY BEEN FURTHER SOUTH BOOKS WHERE IT'S LIKE JUST A PATH AND IT HAS A CENTER LINE ON IT.

UM, I THINK THAT VISUALLY LOOKS LIKE A TRAIL OF READ LIKE A TRAIL.

UM, SO I THINK THAT'LL BE OUR KIND OF CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW, HOW DO SHARE THESE PATHS AND STUFF, ALL CONNECTED TO THAT, THE CLEAR UP LIMP, LET ME PUT IT OUT HERE, LIKE A CIVILIAN WHEN I'M TALKING TO MY NEIGHBORS AND I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT TRAIL, THE ONE WITH THE PURPLE LINE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.

OH YEAH, YEAH.

THE ONE WITH THE PURPLE LINE, SOMETHING THAT IN A CIVILIAN WAY IDENTIFIES THIS AND, AND I MEAN ESSENTIALLY MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOUR GENUS LOW PSI RIGHTS OR YOUR SENSE OF PLACE OF HAVING THAT KIND OF VISUAL BEYOND JUST SIGNAGE.

THAT'S ALL BECAUSE WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE RIDING BIKES AND SO FORTH, AND I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE I'M SO FAMILIAR WITH THIS, THAT WHEN YOU SHARE IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE MAYBE NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE, I'LL JUST SAY, SERIOUSLY, JUST FOLLOW LITERALLY THE YELLOW BRICKS OR SOME SORT OF SOMETHING THAT CAN MAKE THAT UNIQUE.

AND THEN I REALIZED THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD OPEN A CAN OF WORMS WITH OTHER PLACES, BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING AS WELL WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATION AND, UM, JUST VISUALLY TYING THIS IN TOGETHER.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I'D LIKE TO TAG INTO THAT COMMENT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, ROUGHLY, YOU KNOW, ROBLEDO UM, ON THE BIKE PATH SIGNS, I THINK THE OLD SCIENCE, YOU KNOW, THEY USED TO HAVE LIKE BIKE ROUTE AND IT WOULD BE A NUMBER AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD KIND OF BE A RECTANGLE WITH A SHAPE AND A COLOR.

UM, AND I REALLY LIKED THOSE BIKES SIGNS BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST TAKING YOU IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION.

AND THEN AT SOME POINT, UM, THE BIKE MAPS CHANGED.

AND SO NOW IT'S LIKE PRIMARY, SECONDARY TERTIARY AND, UM, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN LIKE THE STREET KIND OF, UM, THIS DENSITY ON, ON THAT'S SEPARATE, BUT THE BIKE, THE BIKE MAPS CHANGED.

AND I FEEL LIKE THE, THE GRID THAT IT IS NOW IS NOT AS DIRECTIONAL.

IT DOESN'T TAKE YOU ON A PATH AND I DON'T SEE PEOPLE USING IT AS MUCH.

SO, UM, I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE VISUAL LINE, BUT ALSO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ON A BIKE PATH AND JUST INDICATING THAT YOU'RE ON A BIKE PATH, I THINK IT IS HELPFUL TO PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN TAKING A BIKE TRAIL AND, UM, JUST KIND OF HAVING REGULAR MARKINGS WITH THAT.

THAT'S DEFINITELY PROBABLY BEYOND YOUR SCOPE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THIS TRAIL.

UM, BUT I, I FIND IT HELPFUL AND RIDING BIKES, UM, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS, MR. CARROLL? I JUST, I GUESS WANNA REITERATE AGAIN WHAT COMMISSIONER AN HOUR LADO ALSO.

I MEAN, IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY KNOW FROM PARK TO PARK, YOU'RE GOING FROM TRAIL TO STREET FROM, TO TRAIL TO STREET, TO TRAIL, TO STREET.

AND SO IT'S EASY TO GET LOST WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

I, YOU KNOW, I THINK OF CERTAIN AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT, UH, CERTAINLY IF IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME, YOU COULD, YOU COULD EASILY GET LOST.

SO THAT, THAT WAYFINDING IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.

UM, I DO THINK THIS IS, THIS IS EXCITING.

UH, I THINK IT WILL BE EVEN MORE EXCITING WHEN THEY FINALLY BUILD THAT BRIDGE AND ROY G GIRL PARK, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT FOR, FOR YEARS NOW.

UM, BUT I KNOW IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO READ THESE SECTIONS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, YOU ARE PROVIDING SOME TREES IN CERTAIN AREAS, ESPECIALLY, UH, THERE'S A FEW STRETCHES THAT LOOK LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NO EXISTING TREES.

SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE AREA WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING NEW TREES TO HELP PROVIDE SOME SHADE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

THE PROJECT IS LOOKING AT ADDING, UM, LANDSCAPING, INCLUDING TREES.

THAT'LL BE, UM, BOTH CLOSE TO THE TRAIL ITSELF FOR SHADE, UM, BETWEEN, UH, BETWEEN, SORRY, SHERINGHAM AND EASTERN RIVERSIDE.

I THINK THE LANDSCAPING ACTUALLY DOES GO TO, WELL, SORRY, FROM ALTER TO EAST RIVERSIDE.

UM, AND THEN THE FUNCTIONAL SORT OF HEALTH ASSESSMENT AND THE PART THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WATERSHED IS LEADING, UM, IS FROM SHARING HIM TO RIVERSIDE.

AND THERE, THERE MIGHT EVEN BE TREES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN THE RIPARIAN ZONE, LIKE BULB CYPRESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT,

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UM, DO WELL IN THAT KIND OF THAT ENVIRONMENT, THAT REPAIRING ENVIRONMENT.

UM, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING MORE TREES FOR SHADE PURPOSES, UM, KIND OF GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE FOR TREATING ALLEGATION.

UH, AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE LOWER PART OF THIS EXISTING TRAIL BUT I, I AM ON THE UPPER BOGGY CREEK TRAIL PROBABLY ONCE A WEEK.

AND WHAT IS NICE ABOUT THAT IS THE, UM, SORT OF SEPARATION BETWEEN BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN, BUT THE PHOTO I SEE HERE, DOESN'T SHOW THAT SEPARATION, OR ARE YOU NOT PROPOSING THAT ON THIS TRAIL? YEAH.

THIS TIME WE'RE NOT PROPOSING IT.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT A TRAIL IS BOTH, UM, WE HAVE SORT OF EXISTING, UH, STANDARDS FOR THE TRAIL IS TO BUILD TO 12 FEET WAS ACTUALLY QUITE WIDE TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE SOME OF THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, NAVIGATE SMOOTHLY AROUND DIFFERENT USERS.

UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL KEEP IN MIND AND WE'LL KEEP EVALUATING TRAILS AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS GET THIS YEAR AND THERE ARE ISSUES WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRY AND BY CONFLICTS CAUSE THERE'S THE SORT OF SPEED DIFFERENTIALS AND THAT'S REALLY, WHAT'S KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN YOU'RE WALKING IS WHEN SOMEONE PASSES QUICKLY PAST YOU, UM, WITHOUT HAVING ENOUGH SPACE TO KIND OF MAKE THAT, THAT NEIGHBORING AROUND, UM, COMFORTABLE.

UM, SO WE DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK 12 FEET IS THE THIRD VITRIOL CENTERED THAT FEELS, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY WIDE.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO HAVE TO KIND OF NAVIGATE IS THAT WE'RE ALSO WORKING IN REALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTS, LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO THE CREEK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SENSITIVE WETLAND AREAS.

UM, SO WE'RE BUILDING BOARDWALK TO KIND OF MITIGATE AND BE, UM, SENSITIVE TO THAT.

UM, BUT IT REALLY DOES, UH, JUST GIVEN THE WIDTH OF THE EASEMENTS THAT WE HAD HERE, THE TRAIL EASEMENTS THAT WE HAD, UM, I THINK, AND I'M NOT, I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE LONGEST, SO I CAN'T SPEAK TOTALLY SOME OF THE BACKGROUND OF IT, UH, GOING WAY, WAY BACK WHEN SOME OF THESE INITIAL DECISIONS WERE MADE.

BUT I THINK THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BEING CONSIDERED, UM, THINKING ABOUT DOING DUAL TRACK AND HAVING THOSE SEPARATED BECAUSE VERSUS DOING ONE, UM, AND HERE IT MIGHT'VE BEEN THAT IT'S WORSE THAN JUST BEING IN THE, UH, SO CLOSE TO THE BIG CHANNEL, UM, THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT KIND OF SPACE.

THE PARALLEL KIND OF TERRA COTTA PATH AND DO SOME ADA UPGRADES TO THE EXISTING.

I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I USE THE BARTON CREEK TRAIL A LOT AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONFLICTS BETWEEN EVEN WITH THE SEPARATION BETWEEN BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS.

AND AS YOU MAKE THESE SORT OF LONGER CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ONE AREA OF TOWN AND ANOTHER AREA OF TOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE OF THOSE, UH, BICYCLISTS THAT ARE TRYING TO COMMUTE FROM ONE AREA OF TOWN, RIGHT.

TO THE OTHER VERSUS JUST LOCALIZED PEDESTRIANS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT SEPARATION, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ONCE IT'S INSTALLED, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO EVER GET IT, UH, YOU KNOW, REVISE LATER.

SO I JUST, YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN, UM, FOR KIND OF SOME BROADER PLANNING CONTEXT WE ARE GOING THROUGH ON THE ATX BLOCK, LIKE ROLE, UM, PLANNING PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS UPDATING THE, UH, BICYCLE PLAN, THE URBAN TRAILS PLAN AND THE SIDEWALK PLANS.

UM, AND PART OF THAT PLANNING PROCESS, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR URBAN TRAILS AND THINKING ABOUT WHERE THOSE CONFLICTS, UM, OCCUR AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, SEPARATION REALLY IS NEEDED AND WHAT IT WILL BE THAT WILL KIND OF DETERMINE WHEN WE DO THAT.

UM, AND IN WHAT INSTANCES ON, SO WE'LL HAVE BETTER GUIDANCE FOR THAT MOVING FORWARD AS WELL WITH SHEDDING IT'S EXCITING, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN THE, IN OUR URBAN TRAILS PLAN RIGHT NOW.

AND IF I CAN JUST JUMP IN TO ADD WHAT DYLAN'S BEEN SAYING, 12 FEET ALONG THE CREEK IS WHAT WE'RE LIMITED TO PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RIGHT NOW IN LESS A WIDER DIMENSION IS CALLED FOR IN THE URBAN TRAIL PLAN.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN START TO LOOK AT THAT AS WE UPDATE THE PLAN AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT, BUT FOR NOW THIS IS KIND OF THE WIDEST WE CAN BUILD BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THE CREEK.

SO I'M CURIOUS THEN AT THE BOGGY CREEK TRAIL, IT'S ON THE CREEK TOO, BUT IT'S WIDER.

CORRECT.

SO, UM, UPPER BOGGY CREEK TRAIL HAD TO GET A LAND USE COMMISSION VARIANCE, UM, AND LOWER BOGGY CREEK TRAIL.

WE ACTUALLY ONLY BUILT 11 FEE.

THE EXISTING PATH WAS ALREADY THERE.

SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT, LIKE REALLY BEAUTIFUL, SEPARATED PATHS, THE SIDEWALK KIND OF THE PEDESTRIAN PIECE OF THAT ALREADY EXISTED IN THE AREA.

AND SO ALL WE DID WAS COME AND BUILD

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WHICH THAT, THAT COMPLETELY SEPARATED PATHS, EVEN BETTER THAN MY OPINION, BUT SO YOU COULD GET A VARIANCE IN THIS AREA TOO, TO GO WIDER IF YOU FELT THAT WAS A THING TO DO.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE APPROVED IN THIS AREA DUE TO HOW EROSIVE THIS CREEK IS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT THAT BRIDGE DOWN AT ROY AND G THAT ABOUT BEING REPLACED, LIKE, THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW KIND OF CRAZY THOUGH THE WATER IS IN THIS AREA THAT WE WERE DEFINITELY HEARING FROM WATERSHED THE NEED TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

HANNO ROBLEDO OKAY.

I JUST, SORRY.

I WANTED TO PIGGYBACK AS SOON AS YOU SAID, YOU'RE DEVELOPING GUIDELINES, THINGS TO CONSIDER THAT ARE A BIG BUMMER.

IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE ARE THE ROBOTS THAT ARE NOW OUT AND ABOUT.

AND THE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THEM OR READ ABOUT THE DELIVERY ROBOTS DOWNTOWN, BUT ON TOWN LAKE TRAIL, I DID SEE, UM, A PERSON ONE DAY WITH THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL ROBOT THAT WAS CARRYING THEIR STUFF.

AND SO WHEN I SAW THAT IT REALLY WAS A TRIGGER OF THIS IS GOING TO JUST ADD ANOTHER COMPONENT ON OUR TRAILS OF THERE'LL BE ALLOWED OR NOT.

BUT TH TH I'VE SEEN PERSONAL ROBOTS AND THEN BACK TO AGAIN, DISTINGUISHING THIS PAVING.

AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR, UM, COMMISSIONER CAROL BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING FROM TRAIL STREET TRAIL STREET WITH AN INTEGRAL COLOR, WITH SOMETHING THAT STANDS OUT.

AND I WA I WANT YOU TO TRY TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

YOU'RE RIDING YOUR BIKE AND YOU'RE IN FEAR.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE RIDING YOUR BIKE, YOU CAN RUN ACROSS PEOPLE THAT IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I'M LITERALLY TALKING FROM A FEMALE PERSPECTIVE.

IF I'M ON MY BIKE AND I'M AWAKE, I'M WARY ALL THE TIME, SOMETHING VISUAL, A COLOR, A PATTERN THAT ISN'T JUST A SIGN IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CARRY YOU THROUGH.

SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN YOUR, AS YOU'RE DEVELOPING YOUR GUIDELINES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S PRECEDENT OUT THERE, BUT AT LEAST LIKE THE BOGGY CREEK DOES HAVE, OF COURSE I'M ALL ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF PATHS, BUT HOW THAT PARTICULAR COLOR IS THE RED COLOR, BUT SOMETHING THAT JUST THE BIG SAFETY COMPONENT IS THAT YOU CAN FEEL CONFIDENT WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

AND THAT'S, I MEAN, I MEAN, LIKE IF YOU'RE WALKING, IF YOU'RE JOGGING ON THAT, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH OF SAFETY CAN HELP BRING IN DOLLARS TO FUND THAT.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

AND I THINK THEY CAN KEEP LOOKING AT THAT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT, I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING WE NEED SOMETHING BEYOND SIGNS, BUT WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT EACH OF OUR SIGNS WOULD BE COLOR CODED.

SO THAT KIND OF ONE TRAIL WOULD BE PURPLE.

AND SO THAT EVERY SIGN WOULD BE A SPECIFIC COLOR.

THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE STREET SIGNS TO HOPEFULLY STAND APART FROM THEM.

UM, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER ITEMS AS WELL.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER SALINAS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, JUST GOING BACK ON THAT COMMENT, UM, EMERGENCY SERVICES, UM, YOU'RE ON THIS TRAIL AND THERE'S HAPPENS TO BE A ACCIDENT, UH, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, YOU RIDE YOUR BIKE OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LOOSE ANIMALS ON THERE AND ROBOTS, UM, YOU KNOW, CALLING, IF YOU HAVE TO CALL FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES, IS THERE, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY WAY OF WAYFINDING OR INDICATION SHOWING WHERE EXACTLY YOU'RE AT OR THE FASTEST WAY OR THOSE SERVICES TO GET TO YOU? YEAH.

SO ALL OF THE WAYFINDING SIGNS HAVE, UM, UH, IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, THIS IS YOUR LOCATION AND THEY TELL YOU KIND OF WHAT TO SAY, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE EMERGENCY SERVICES HAVE ALL OF THE GPS COORDINATES FOR THOSE SIGNS AS WELL.

SO COORDINATING WITH THEM ON THE SIGNAGE FOR LOCATION TO REPORT.

AND WHAT'S THIS, WHAT'S THE SPACING OF THOSE SIGNS, THAT SIGNAGE.

SO THERE'S HALF MILE MARKER SIGNS.

AND THEN ANYTIME THERE'S A DECISION POINT.

SO THE FURTHEST APART, THEY WOULD BE AT EVERY HALF MILE.

AND I THINK ON THIS TRIAL, THEY ARE MORE FREQUENT THAN THAT.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? WAS THE APPLICANTS SEEKING SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE? THE CITY OF BOSTON, ZION AND SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS, COMMISSIONER LUKINS WOULD YOU LIKE TO FINISH MAKING YOUR MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND.

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I SECOND COMMISSIONER HANNAH ROBLEDO SECONDS.

UM, LIKE TO VOTE, UH, OOH, YAY.

OUR NAME, UH, THAT, UH, COUNTRY CLUB CREEK TRAIL, PROJECT COMPLIANCE, ESSENTIALLY COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS.

WE HAVE UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSTON FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

A, UM, APPROVAL OF THE MAY 23RD MEETING MINUTES, BUT ANYONE LIKES TO MAKE A MOTION.

ITEM TWO,

[2.a. Approval of the May 23th meeting minutes]

KAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER TAN, A GUCCI, UM, LIKE TO TAKE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 23RD MEETING, MINUTES TO A VOTE.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ITEM TO BE UPDATE FROM REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.

UNANIMOUS.

THE MAY 23RD MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

UM,

[2.b. Update from representative on the Downtown Commission regarding last meeting]

OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING WAS NOT HELD BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE QUORUM.

UM, ITEM

[2.c. Update from representative on the Joint Sustainability committee regarding last meeting]

TWO C UPDATE FROM REPRESENTATIVE OF THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

MR. MCKELL, UH, TRYING TO THINK WAS THE THING RELEVANT.

WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON THE AUSTIN REGIONAL FOOD PLAN, UH, THAT THEY'RE CREATING.

AND WE HAD AN UPDATE ON AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERIES, ZERO WASTE PLAN AND, UM, SOME WATERSHED PROTECTION, UM, REVISIONS, WHICH WELL I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT OUT.

BUT YEAH, SO I DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THAT'S, UM, THAT RELEVANT TO US, BUT THERE'S A LOT, A LOT GOING ON IN THAT WORLD AT THE CITY RIGHT NOW AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.

I'M INTERESTED IN THE WATER.

I SAID, I MAY GET BACK WITH YOU AFTER WORD ABOUT THAT.

UM, THEY UPDATE FROM REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT.

DO NOT HAVE COMMISSIONER FRANCO TODAY.

UM, ITEM THREE H HAIR

[3. ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I HAVE NO ANNOUNCEMENTS ITEM, 3D ITEMS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS.

ANYONE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS COMMISSIONER LUKINS YES.

SO LAST WEEK I HAVE FIRST BRIEFING ON THE CAPITOL DOMINANCE.

ORDINANCE THE PROPER PHRASE, CAPITAL COMPETENCE DISCUSSION GOING ON COUNCIL AT A 200, WE'RE GOING TO GET SAID YES.

DO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE, UM, ITEMS THEY'D LIKE TO BRING FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER SALINAS? UM, I NEED TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE WORKING GROUPS.

WE'VE MADE INCREASED TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE THAT NIGHT, HIM FROM COUNCIL THAT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA.

WE'RE TRYING TO TRACK DOWN THE STAFF LEAD CAUSE IT CAME DIRECTLY FROM A COUNCIL OFFICE.

SO I HIGHLY DOUBT A COUNCIL OFFICE IS GOING TO COME AND GIVE YOU A BRIEFING ON THAT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A STAFF CONTACT PROBABLY MAYBE FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT, UM, IN THE RESERVOIR AND MODE PASSED BY COUNCIL.

THEY SPECIFIED THAT WHEN THE MANAGER CAN, UH, MAKE CHANGES BASED ON INPUT FROM VARIOUS, UH, ENTITIES.

SO SOMEBODY MUST BE SEEKING INPUT FROM VARIOUS ENTITIES SPED TO MATCH MY OWN.

I DIDN'T WANT TO GO BEYOND THAT.

RIGHT.

CORRECT.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO, IF I MADE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TRACK DOWN THE STAFF LEAD SO WE CAN GET YOU IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

DIDN'T HAVE A, HOPEFULLY AT YOUR AUGUST READING,

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AND SO THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO DO THAT, I'M ASSUMING IS TO EMAIL YOU, UM, ARE WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR, UM, BASICALLY OUR URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINE GROUP IS FALL AND ACTUALLY KIND OF HAS A WAIT LIST.

UM, BUT ONCE WE BEGAN, UM, THE NEXT KIND OF BREAKOUT GROUPS FOR CREATING THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, WE HAVE FIVE GROUPS WITHIN THAT.

AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TIME, I THINK IN AUGUST THAT THEY'D BE GOING TO THE NEXT STEP.

UM, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY TRY TO COORDINATE WITH YOU ON THAT.

UM, COMMISSIONER CARROLL, I'M WILLING STEP OFF THE PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN WORKING GROUP.

IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO BE ON IT.

I'M JUST SAYING I'VE BEEN ON IT FOR LIKE SEVEN YEARS.

AND I WANT TO GIVE SOMEONE OUT TO CHEAT.

NO, NOT THE, THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINE.

OH, I, THE URBAN DESIGN WORKING GROUP THAT REVIEWS THE DENSITY BONUS PROJECT.

UM, YOU WILL UPDATE THAT.

UM, SO THAT'S THE WORKING GROUPS, URBAN FINE ADDING AN URBAN DESIGN WORKING GROUP.

ALSO, I'M SORRY.

UM, WHEN I, I THINK IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, UH, PREVIOUSLY, BUT A BRIEFING ON THE CITY'S PROPOSED FUNCTIONAL GREEN HEADLINES VERIFY MAN, A BRIEFING IS COMING TO YOU IN AUGUST.

THAT'S CONFIRMED.

GREAT.

I'D LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.

UM, MY VIDEO IS, IT SAYS I HAVE A WEAK SIGNAL, SO CAN I STILL SPEAK MY UNDERSTANDING? UH, I RECEIVED AN QUESTION FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER REGARDING THE, THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN AND, UM, THE FEEDBACK THAT HE GOT FROM STAFF INTERESTINGLY WAS THAT FUNCTIONAL GREEN WILL NOT APPLY TO THE CBD, WHICH SHOCKED ME BECAUSE THE CASE STUDIES ALL PROFILED PROJECTS IN THE CBD, THEY THEN CAME BACK AND CONFIRMED THAT BECAUSE THE CBD IS NOT REQUIRED TO MEET LANDSCAPE CODE AND FUNCTIONAL GREEN IS PART OF THE LANDSCAPE CODE THAT DOWNTOWN PROJECTS DO NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH FUNCTIONAL GREEN.

I'M CONFUSED OR, HEY, I JUST WANTED TO LET MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT THAT IS WHERE THE DISCUSSION STANDS FROM THIS PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE RE I ASKED AS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR CLARIFICATION, NOT AS A COMMISSIONER, JUST TO CLARIFY, TERRIFY ME AT THE RISK OF STARTING DISCUSSION ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.

I WILL DEFER TO STAFF WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO BRING YOU THE ITEM THREE BRIEFING.

HOWEVER, YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE AN ITEM POSTED ON A VITRO AGENDA TO HAVE DISCUSSION AND ACTION OR DIRECTION OF THE CITY CLERK OFFICE.

SO YOU'LL RECEIVE A BRIEFING IN AUGUST FROM STAFF.

YOU MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS TO STAFF, HOWEVER YOU WISH TO TAKE ACTION AS A COMMISSION ON THE NEED TO HAVE A SEPARATE ITEM FOR.

TRUE.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ITEMS FOR QUESTION FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, ITEM FOUR, ADJOURNMENT, UH, 7:32 PM.