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UH, REGULAR

[CALL TO ORDER]

CALLED MEETING FOR THE DESIGN COMMISSION LOCATED AT THE PERMITTING CENTER ROOM 1405.

UM, LET'S BEGIN.

OKAY.

UH, WE'RE WE'LL DO THE ROLL CALL.

UM, CHAIR.

WE WERE HERE, UH, COMMISSIONER CARROLL, COMMISSIONER SALINAS, PRESENT COMMISSIONER FRANCO, RESIDENT COMMISSIONER HANDEL.

ROBLEDO COMMISSIONER TANA, GUCCI, VICE CHAIR MINORS HERE, COMMISSIONER ROLISON COMMISSIONER CALLED COLEMAN PRESENT COMMISSIONER WATLEY, PRESENT AND COMMISSIONER LUKENS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO I'M CALLED TO ORDER.

UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? ALL RIGHT.

ITEM ONE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UH, HAS THAT BEEN REVIEWED, UH, THE MINUTES FROM THE DESIGN COMMISSION, REGULAR MEETING JUNE 27TH.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER TANA.

GUCCI.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

UH, WE HAVE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

THE MEETING MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING ARE APPROVED.

UM, STAFF BRIEFINGS,

[2. Staff briefing by Pamela Abee-Taulli, Development Services Department, regarding Functional Green. (Part 1 of 2)]

ITEM TEAL, UM, STAFF BRIEFING BY PAMELA , UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT REGARDING FUNCTIONAL GREEN COMMISSIONERS.

THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON ON THE SCREEN.

I WAS GOING TO WAIT FOR IT TO STOP.

IS IT COMING? DO I NEED, WHAT DO I NEED TO DO? OKAY.

OKAY.

NOW YOU CAN HEAR GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY.

I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT FUNCTIONAL GREEN.

IT'S A PART OF THE LANDSCAPE CODE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT SO EASY TO READ THE SLIDES.

SO FUNCTIONAL GREEN RESPONDS TO BOTH IMAGINE AUSTIN, WHICH ASKS TO ASK US TO INTEGRATE MORE GREEN INTO THE CITY, UH, TO HAVE A MORE SUSTAINABLY MANAGED, UH, WATER ENERGY AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES AND TO DEVELOP AN AFFORDABLE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY.

IT ALSO RESPONDS MORE DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL DIRECTIVE TO BRING FORTH A, A CODE CHANGE TO IMPLEMENT FUNCTIONAL GREEN.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO HOW IT WORKS.

NEXT SLIDE FUNCTIONAL GREEN WILL APPLY IN THE URBAN WATERSHEDS, UH, FOR ANY SITE WITH A ZONING ALLOWED IMPERVIOUS COVER OVER 80%, INCLUDING DMU, N C B O S I'M SORRY, CBD SITES, UH, IN WATERSHEDS, OTHER THAN URBAN, IT WILL APPLY TO ANY SITE THAT HAS A WATERSHED IMPERVIOUS COVER.

THAT'S GREATER THAN 80%.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO HERE ARE THE, UH, LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THIS, UH, THIS, UH, PART OF FUNCTIONAL GREEN.

THE TARGET SCORE FOR FUNCTIONAL GREEN IS 0.3.

YOU MULTIPLY THE SQUARE FEET OF THE AREA OF YOUR ELEMENT, UH, BY THE TARGET SCORE AND GET YOUR SCORE FOR EACH OF THOSE ELEMENTS.

THEN YOU ADD THOSE TOGETHER AND IF IT GETS TO 0.3, YOU'RE DONE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IT WORKS VERTICALLY SO THAT, UM, MULTIPLE ELEMENTS IN THE SAME VERTICAL SPACE CAN BE COUNTED SEPARATELY.

SO IN THIS EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE, UH, STARTING AT THE BOTTOM, YOU HAVE RAIN GARDEN MEDIA, THEN ORNAMENTAL GRASSES ON TOP OF THAT SHRUBS ABOVE THAT SMALL TREE ABOVE THAT.

AND YOU COUNT EACH OF THOSE LAYERS.

EACH OF THOSE GETS A SCORE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, AND ELEMENTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY CAN BE COUNTED

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THE RIGHT OF WAY, DOES NOT COUNT FOR YOUR DENOMINATOR.

UH, SO IT'S NOT COUNTED AS PART OF YOUR SITE AREA, BUT, UH, BUT YOU CAN USE ELEMENTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR, UH, YOUR FUNCTIONAL GREEN SCORE, UM, REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, ARE, UH, ELEMENTS THAT YOU USE TO MEET THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN SCORE THAT ALSO MEET ANOTHER REQUIREMENT OF THE CODE, UH, CAN COUNT FOR BOTH.

THAT'S FINE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO HOW DID WE DEVELOP THIS? UM, WE HAD, UH, THE, THE PEOPLE LISTED RIGHT THERE, UM, WHO, UH, DID THE, THE STUDIES FOR US HAVE THERE BEEN ANY, UH, BELLAIRE AND ED MCMULLAN? NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE HAD A LENGTHY RESEARCH PROCESS THAT PROVIDED THE RATINGS FOR EACH OF THE LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS THEY'RE BASED ON ECOLOGICAL AND ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE.

SO, UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE CONSULTANTS REVIEWED OVER 120 PUBLISHED STUDIES, UM, AND, UH, LOOKED AT THE DATA FOR EACH, UH, RE RELATING TO BIOPHYSICAL PHYSICAL BENEFITS, ECONOMIC VALUES, BENEFICIARIES COSTS OF IMPLEMENTATION.

THEY ALSO LOOKED AT THE TECHNICAL AND ECONOMIC ISSUES, UH, AND DID ANALYSIS OF THOSE, UM, LOOKING AT THE RANGE OF THE LIKELY BIOPHYSICAL BENEFITS AND THE ECONOMIC COSTS AND BENEFITS.

AND OF COURSE THE ESTIMATED PERFORMANCE OF EACH ELEMENT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO IN THE PERFORMANCE CRITERIA, AS I SAID, WE HAD BOTH BIOPHYSICAL AND ECONOMIC, UH, ITEMS, THE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES.

I'M JUST NOT GOING TO READ THEM ALL OUT, BUT THEY'RE THERE.

AND THEY'RE ALSO IN YOUR COPY OF THE SLIDE SHOW AND THE ECONOMIC ISSUES.

WE LOOKED AT A PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT AND USE HUMAN HEALTH AND WELLBEING AFFECTS ON PROPERTY VALUES AFFECTS ON DEVELOPABLE AREA.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, WE TESTED OUT FUNCTIONAL GREEN WITH A SET OF CASE STUDIES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THESE WERE ALL SITES THAT HAD, UH, UH, APPROVED PERMITS FOR DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND OF COURSE THESE WERE ALL DONE WITHOUT FUNCTIONAL GREEN, BUT, UH, WE DIVIDED THE CASE STUDIES INTO SITES THAT WOULD NOT HAVE USED FUNCTIONAL GREEN, UH, AND SITES THAT WOULD HAVE IF IT EXISTED AT THE TIME.

SO THE STANDARD LANDSCAPE ONES ARE THE ONES THAT, UH, THAT WOULD NOT USE FUNCTIONAL GREEN EVEN IN THE FUTURE.

BUT, UH, WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF SCORES THEY GOT.

AND SO THIS SITE ON THE VILLAS OF 55TH STREET ON 55TH STREET, UH, GOT A FUNCTIONAL GREEN SCORE OF 0.44.

SO THEY KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK.

UM, AND RIGHT THERE ARE THE LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS THAT THEY USE TO REACH THAT SCORE.

AND IT SHOWS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, BESIDE EACH ONE OF THE LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS THAT THEY HAD.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, THIS IS A, UH, KIND OF YOUR STANDARD MULTIFAMILY, UH, SITE WITH THE LIKE TWO OR THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

UM, IT DID ACTUALLY RATHER, WELL, 0.22, UM, AND, UH, UH, IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE SMALLER SITES DO BETTER REALLY THAN THE BIGGER SITES, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND WE LOOKED AT THE TACO CABANA ON NORTH LAMAR, UH, AROUND 52ND STREET.

AND, UH, THIS ALSO KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK WITH A 0.34 SCORE, UM, AND USING THE ELEMENTS LISTED THERE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO LANDSCAPES THAT IF FUNCTIONAL GREEN, UH, GOES INTO EFFECT, THESE SITES WOULD HAVE HAD TO USE, OR IF IT HAD BEEN IN EFFECT AT THE TIME WOULD HAVE USED FUNCTIONAL GREEN.

UM, THIS IS CALLED SKY HOUSE IT'S DOWN ON RAINY STREET.

UM, UH, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT IT PROPOSED WOULD, WOULD HAVE, UH, SCORED A 0.28.

SO IT'S RIGHT UP THERE ALMOST TO THE 0.3.

UM, AND THESE ARE, THIS IS HOW IT DID IT WITH EXISTING TREES, PLANTED TREES, SHRUBS, GROUND COVERS, AND THEN NATIVE PLANTS.

UM, SO IF YOU, IF YOU PLANT PLANTS AND THEY ARE TREES, THEN YOU GET A CERTAIN NUMBER OF POINTS FOR THEM BEING TREES, AND THEN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF POINTS.

ADDITIONALLY, FOR THE, IF THEY'RE NATIVE PLANTS IS, THAT'S WHY IT'S LISTED AS A SEPARATE ITEM.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ANOTHER, UH, BUILDING THAT, UH, THIS ONE HAS A 87% IMPERVIOUS

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COVER.

IT DID NOT SCORE SO WELL.

0.13, IT'S THE EMILY BUILDING UP AT 53 50 BURNET ROAD.

UM, IT LOOKS RATHER GREEN, SO I'M NOT MEAN IT LOOKS GOOD, BUT ANYWAY, IT DID NOT.

I THINK ACTUALLY A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THIS HAD WERE, UH, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLAN SET, IT HAD, UH, EASEMENTS FOR LIKE POWER LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH MAKE TALL TREES DIFFICULT, UM, WHICH I'M SURE CUT DOWN ON THE POINTS, UH, AND IN JUST PLANTING OF TREES WAS DIFFICULT AND OF COURSE, FUNCTIONAL GREEN WILL HAVE, UH, ALTERNATIVE, UH, COMPLIANCE JUST LIKE CURRENT LANDSCAPE CODE DOES.

SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO, TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UM, TURF, BY THE WAY, WHAT DOES UP THERE IS ONLY LIVING TURF.

IT'S NOT ARTIFICIAL TURF, ARTIFICIAL TURF.

DOESN'T GET ANY SCORE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, THIS WAS THE KIND OF COULD HAVE DONE BETTER POSTER CHILD.

UM, IT'S A BUILDING DOWNTOWN PROBABLY ZONED, UH, CBD, BUT, UH, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT OF PREVIOUS COVERED.

ONLY GOT A 0.16 SCORE.

ALL IT HAS IS THESE TREES THAT ARE PLANTED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THEIR SITE.

UM, OKAY, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT AGAIN, LOOKS A LOT BETTER, BUT, UM, STILL DIDN'T SCORE WELL AS A 0.18, UH, HAD PLANTED TREES, SHRUBS, GROUND COVER, GROUND COVER, AND, UH, AND POINTS FOR BEING MADE ARE USING NATIVE PLANTS.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO ONE OF THE SITES THAT DID A REALLY GOOD JOB AND I DIDN'T SHOW THE FRONT ON THIS ONE, THIS IS, UH, SOUTH CONGRESS HOTEL.

AND, UM, UH, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN I GIVE THIS PRESENTATION, I USED THE SLIDES OF THE FRONT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE FRONT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SHOW HOW THEY, UH, THE PART OF THE REASON THEY SCORED SO WELL IS BECAUSE THEY REALLY USE THE WHOLE SITE.

UM, THEY DO HAVE THEIR, THEIR RIGHT OF WAY WHERE THEY'VE GOT TREES AND GRASSES AND ALL KINDS OF GOOD THINGS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THEY CERTAINLY USE THAT TO A MAXIMUM, BUT THEN THIS IS AROUND THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND AROUND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY JUST CONTINUED TO ADD THINGS.

SO THEY HAD PLANTED TREES, GREEN WALL SHRUBS, GROUND COVER, AND NATIVE PLANTS.

UM, AND THEY JUST HAD ENOUGH AREA OF THEM THAT THEY SCORED REALLY WELL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, THIS WAS ONE OF THE, IS REALLY THE MOST HIGH DOLLAR ONE THAT I, THAT WE LOOKED AT.

UM, THIS WAS THE ESTONIAN, UH, ALSO A HUNDRED PERCENT IMPERVIOUS COVER.

UM, THIS DOES USE A GREEN ROOF.

ALTHOUGH MOST PLACES DON'T NEED A GREEN ROOF TO, TO MEET THE SCORE.

UM, THEY HAD, UH, PLANTED TREES.

UH, THEY HAVE BOTH EXTENSIVE AND INTENSIVE GREEN ROOF SHRUBS, ORNAMENTAL GRASSES, GROUND COVER.

UH, THEY ALSO HAVE A CISTERN, UM, AND USE ALTERNATE WATER SOURCE FOR IRRIGATION.

THAT'S WHY THEY GOT UP TO THE 0.31 NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THAT'S IT.

I, THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE SITES THAT WAS A CASE STUDY.

UH, IT'S DOWN, IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH FIRST, NOT FAR FROM ONE TEXAS CENTER.

UM, BUT, UH, I LIKED IT BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE AN AMAZING NUMBER OF GREEN ROOFS, ALL THOSE LITTLE ROOFS OVER THERE OVER THOSE LITTLE BUILDINGS ARE GREEN ROOFS AND PLUS THEY'RE WHOLE, UM, AND THAT'S A VERY THIN MEDIUM GREEN ROOF.

UH, AND THEN, UM, YOU CAN'T BAN IT BEHIND THE TREES.

THEY ALSO DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF PRESERVING THE EXISTING TREES.

AND THEN BEHIND THAT, THERE'S A SECOND FLOOR KIND OF OUTDOOR AREA, WHICH ALSO HAS A GREEN ROOF ELEMENTS.

UM, JUST AGAIN, ALL OF THE, ALL OF THESE SITES OF COURSE, DID NOT USE FUNCTIONAL GREEN BECAUSE IT DIDN'T EXIST, BUT SOME OF THEM SCORED REALLY WELL ANYWAY.

SO IF I CAN HELP CLARIFY ANYTHING, I'LL BE HAPPY TO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, CAN WE MOVE TO QUESTIONS IF I MADE SURE YOU MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF THE PRESENTER YOU MAY NOT DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM.

YOU'RE NOT POSTED FOR ACTION THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU.

UH, CHEMISTRY IS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER WATLEY? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT TO WHAT DEGREE IT'S KIND OF A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH.

YOU KNOW, WHAT I NOTICED IN SOME OF THE CASE STUDIES IS LIKE AMALIE ON BURNET.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS PROBABLY BURDENED BY THERE'S POWER LINES AND, UH, ENERGY, AUSTIN, ENERGY COMPATIBLE TREES.

UM, THE ONES DOWNTOWN, IT SEEMS LIKE THE OFFICE BUILDINGS DIDN'T SCORE SO WELL,

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BUT IF WE HAD A RESIDENTIAL TOWER, THERE'S A GREEN ROOF OR SOUTH CONGRESS HOTEL, PERHAPS WHAT HELPED IT WAS A GREEN GREENERY, YOU KNOW, THE PLANTING AREAS ALONG THE ALLEY.

UM, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR PROJECT TYPE, UM, OR THEIR LOCATION IN THE CITY AND KIND OF THE EXPECTED LEVEL OF DENSITY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN THERE ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGED BY THIS.

AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, DURING THE FORMULATION OF THIS, WAS THERE DISCUSSION ABOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT SITES THAT HAVE POWER LINES ON QUARTERS, LIKE BURNET AND AN OFFICE BUILDING VERSUS A RESIDENTIAL TOWER DOWNTOWN AND HOW, YOU KNOW, ONE'S MORE CHALLENGED THAN THE OTHER.

SO, AS I MENTIONED, ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THESE, UH, REQUIREMENTS, UH, HOW SHOULD I SAY IT TO, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM THE PALETTE OF CHOICES IT'S MEANT TO BE, UH, NOT AT ALL ONE SIZE FITS ALL.

IT'S MEANT TO BE FLEXIBLE AND FOR THE DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO CHOOSE OPTIONS THAT WORK WITH THAT SITE.

AND THAT'S WHY IT HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT KINDS OF OPTIONS COMMISSIONED OUR FRANCO.

YES.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE FUNCTION OF READING.

UM, I, MY IDEA, UM, I WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP, GO, YOU KNOW, IN THE PRESENTATION, COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT ONE CALCULATION WOULD LOOK LIKE AND NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE MATH LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THEY'RE CALCULATING THAT, AND ALSO, UM, UM, UNDERSTANDING WHAT WORD, HOW DOES THIS PLAY INTO YOUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS? IS THIS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE, UH, GREAT STREETS WHERE YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, APPLY MEET CRITERIA IN ORDER TO, TO, TO, UH, IS THIS SOME REALLY DATE? IS THIS SOME SORT OF GATEKEEPER REQUIREMENT IS A BONUS.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE LIKE TO SEE.

ARE WE CONSIDERING THIS? HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO OUR CITY PROCESS? SO LET'S TAKE YOUR SECOND QUESTION FIRST.

UH, IT'S JUST, IT'LL BE PART OF THE LANDSCAPE CODE.

SO JUST LIKE YOU DO ANY OTHER SITE AND YOU HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN REQUIRED, IT'LL THIS WILL BE, THIS IS JUST PART OF THE LANDSCAPE CODE.

SO IT'S PART OF YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN.

AND SO YOU ARE FINDING QUESTIONS, SO YOU HA YOU HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM OF, SORRY.

I KEEP TRYING TO TAKE MY HAND OFF.

YOU HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM OF 0.3, THREE IN ORDER TO GET APPROVED.

YES.

0.3.

YES.

OKAY.

AND THE CALCULATION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I COULDN'T FIND IT.

OKAY.

SO LET'S SEE.

CAN YOU PUT THE PRESENTATION BACK UP AND IT'S, LET ME SEE WHICH PAGE, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE NUMBER FIVE.

OKAY.

SO, UM, JUST, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF IMAGINE I DIDN'T PRINT THE, THE TABLE THAT, UH, THAT YOU'LL SEE IF, WHEN YOU GO TO IT'S A SPREADSHEET BASICALLY.

SO IMAGINE ONE MORE COLUMN TO THE RIGHT.

AND SO, SO YOU HAVE AN EXISTING TREE AND THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE IS A A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

YOU WOULD MULTIPLY 0.8 TIMES 100, AND THAT WOULD GO IN INTO THE IMAGINARY COLUMN ON THE RIGHT.

AND THEN, UH, IF YOU HAVE A RAIN GARDEN, THAT'S A 50 SQUARE, PROBABLY MORE LIKE 25 SQUARE FEET.

UM, YOU WOULD MULTIPLY THAT TIMES.

YOU SEE NUMBER 8.2 IS RAIN GARDEN MEDIA.

YOU WOULD MULTIPLY THAT TIMES, YOUR, YOUR 25 SQUARE FEET BY 0.3.

SO YOU DO THAT FOR EVERY ELEMENT THAT YOU PROVIDE, AND THEN YOU SUM THEM AT THE BOTTOM AND DIVIDE BY YOUR, UH, WELL, YOUR SITE AREA.

BY THE SEC AREAS, I TOLD HIM PERVIOUS COVER THE TOTAL SITE AREA, SITE, AIR WE A SIDE AREA.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

I GUESS IT WAS THAT LARGER CALCULATION THAT I DID THAT I DIDN'T CATCH.

AND IF YOU EXPLAINED THAT I APOLOGIZE.

I DID NOT.

SO GOOD QUESTION.

THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I'LL I HAVE A HUNDRED QUESTIONS AND I ONLY ASK A FEW I'M PRACTICING LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND IMPLEMENTED THE CODE SINCE 1982.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME UNIQUE.

IT'S JUST, I'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH IT, AND THERE'S SO MUCH OVERLAP IN THIS CODE WITH OUR REGULAR LANDSCAPE CODE.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE COMPONENTS EXISTING TREE.

WE HAVE A TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE, LARGE NEWLY PLANTED TREE.

WE HAVE TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS LIKE THOSE.

THAT'S ALSO TRUE FOR MEDIUM AND SMALL,

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LARGE SHRUBS.

WE HAVE THAT FOR SCREENING SMALL SHRUBS.

YOU CAN ALWAYS USE SMALL SHRUBS, UH, GROUND COVERS AND TERROR FOR EARLY ALLOWED VEGETATIVE WALL IS ALLOWED.

UH, GREEN ROOFS ARE ALLOWED IRRIGATION.

ALTERNATIVE METHODS ARE ALLOWED.

POROUS PAVEMENT IS ACKNOWLEDGED EVEN AN ALTERNATIVE EQUIVALENT COMPLIANCE SUSPENDED PAVEMENT SYSTEM IS ALSO VERY OFTEN REQUESTED.

NOW, IN ORDER TO GET YOUR TREE CREDITS, UH, POLLINATOR RESOURCES, WE ACKNOWLEDGED, ESPECIALLY THINGS LIKE LEAD AND AUSTIN GREEN BUILDING POINTS, WHICH MOST PROJECTS LIKE OUR PROJECTS THAT WE SEE FOR DENSITY BONUS HAVE TO ABIDE BY WHY IS THIS NECESSARY WHEN WE HAVE OVERLAP AND ALL THE THINGS I JUST DESCRIBED NOT TO MENTION THE ONES COMING UP LIKE WATER FORWARD.

SO IS THAT A CLARIFYING? COULD I, OKAY.

TWO.

UM, SO, UH, EACH OF THOSE HAS, UM, DIFFERENT WAY EACH OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS HAS, UH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S SEE, THERE'S KIND OF TWO PARTS TO THIS.

ONE IS THE OTHER LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, YOU CAN HAVE SHRUBS AND TREES AND ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE LANDSCAPE CODE, WE WANT TO REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

AND THE SITES WHERE THIS APPLIES PLACES WITH MORE THAN 80% IMPERVIOUS COVER, USUALLY DON'T REALLY HAVE A STREET YARD.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, WHEN HE GOT SCREENING, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A POND UP FRONT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PARKING LOT, RIGHT NEAR THE ROAD.

THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING LOT TREES.

SO THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN ARRAY OF REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO THIS IS WHY, HOW WE, UH, SO THIS IS THE CODE THAT APPLIES TO THOSE SITES, TO WHERE IT DOESN'T.

THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CBD CAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION.

THERE WAS SOME COMMUNICATION THAT CAME FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, OFFICES THAT THIS DID NOT APPLY TO THE CBD, BUT IT WILL BE, THAT WAS CONFUSION.

OKAY.

SO THE, IT IS THE CBD, IT'S NOT JUST THE CBD IT'S ANY SITE THAT HAS IMPERVIOUS COVER OR THE 80% GAINS WITH BLUE VEINS GOING THROUGH WHAT WE SAW ON THE FIRST SLIDE.

YEAH.

SO LOTS OF SITES.

YES.

OKAY.

SO FOR A NUMBER, SO LET'S TAKE, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN A HUNDRED PERCENT ALLOWABLE AND, UH, EVEN A 90% OR OVER HE'S PROVED THAT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE SINGLE FRONTAGE AND DON'T HAVE A CORNER LOT, IT'S NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS WITHOUT GIVING UP IMPERVIOUS COVER.

IS THAT ACCURATE OR DOING A ROOFTOP GARDEN? I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY ACCURATE.

UM, I, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU CAN USE POROUS PAVEMENT, YOU CAN USE GREEN WALLS.

I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS HERE.

UM, YOU, UH, HAVE TO PROVIDE WATER QUALITY, SO YOU COULD DO RAIN.

WELL, YOU CAN'T GET CREDIT FOR RAIN GARDENS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT YOU CAN DO THINGS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THAT WHOLE RIGHT OF WAY AREA DOESN'T EVEN COUNT AS YOUR DENOMINATOR FOR YOUR, UH, POINTS.

SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A, A BONUS.

UH, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE ARE A LOT OF OVERLAPPING THINGS.

UM, AND, UH, WE FEEL THAT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF DIRECTING THE OVERLAP.

SO FOR INSTANCE, UH, ACTUALLY YOU CAN GET A WHOLE POINT IN AUSTIN, ENERGY GREEN BUILDING.

ALTHOUGH I TAKE THAT BACK, IF THIS BECOMES THE, THEN THEY'LL REMOVE THAT FROM AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING, RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN GET A POINT FOR USING FUNCTIONAL GREEN.

UM, BUT, UH, TREES, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ONLY TREES UP OVER 19 INCHES ARE PROTECTED TREES, UH, EIGHT INCHES AND ABOVE, THEY ENCOURAGE YOU TO SAVE, BUT YOU DON'T ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.

AND, UM, WE WANT YOU TO BE SAVING MAYBE EVEN SMALLER TREES.

THIS GIVES YOU POINTS FOR SMALLER TREES.

SO, UH, IN THAT WAY, WE, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING TOWARDS THE FUTURE, UH, UH, DOWNTOWN CANOPY, UM, THE OVERLAP WITH, UH, AUSTIN WATER, THEY WILL BE REQUIRING YOU TO USE, UM, AT SOME, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THEY ALREADY DO REQUIRE TO USE YOUR CONDENSATE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

AND DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO USE YOU TO HOOK UP TO THE PURPLE PIPE.

UM, IN THIS WAY WE ASK AND OUR, WHAT WE DO IS WE KIND OF SKEW YOU TOWARDS LANDSCAPE, SO YOU COULD USE IT TO FLUSH TOILETS, BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO USE IT TO WATER THE LAWN.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

I MEAN, I JUST THINK LIKE, LOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR EXAMPLES,

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COULD WE JUST GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THOSE? I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND IF I WANT TO SEE IF I'M SEEING THE SAME THING.

SO LET'S GO TO THE EXAMPLES.

WE CAN GO.

THE FIRST ONE, I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT HIDDEN THE DETAILS THAT I THINK THE PUBLIC THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING THIS NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

SO ONE OF THESE IS THIS, THIS ISSUE.

SO WHAT ALLOWABLE HERNIAS COVER DID THIS PROJECT HAVE? SO IT HAS A 59% IMPERVIOUS COVER, BUT WHAT WAS MY ZONING? WHAT WAS THE ALLOWABLE ON THIS ONE? I DO NOT, I'M NOT SURE.

HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

I MIGHT HAVE THAT.

THIS IS VILLAS AT 55TH.

UH, IT WAS ALLOWED 65.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU'VE THOUGHT 65% ALLOWABLE, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO MEET THIS STANDARD, BUT A REGULAR LANDSCAPE CODE OR THIS ONE, RIGHT.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY.

THIS ONE'S 0.2, TWO.

UM, WHAT WAS THE ALLOWABLE ON THIS ONE? THIS IS CONNIE'S 70%.

OKAY.

SO IT HAD 30% RIGHT OFF THE BAT TO DO LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS AND IT ONLY ACHIEVED A 0.2, TWO SCORE.

SO IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT REALLY PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF OVER 80%.

SO THE TWO THAT WE'VE JUST SEEN ARE UNDER, AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T ELECT TO DO THIS, EXCEPT THEY MIGHT, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT THEY WOULD PROBABLY STICK WITH A STRAIGHT UP LANDSCAPE CODE.

RIGHT.

UH, THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE TO DO.

RIGHT.

STRATEGIES.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, WHICH I THINK YOU'RE ALLUDING TO.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY.

THIS ONE 72% AND IT BARELY MADE IT, YOU KNOW, 0.3 IS THE 0.3.

IS THAT OKAY? SO IT MADE IT BY A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHAT WAS THE ALLOWABLE ON THIS ONE? 95%.

OKAY.

SO IT WASN'T A HUNDRED.

AND SO IT, IT MAY HAVE, WE SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED THAT AS, UH, IT PROVIDED STANDARD LANDSCAPE CODE AND I'M NOT SURE WHY WE DIDN'T REVIEW THAT AS A, UH, WELL, IT WOULD HAVE MADE IT ANYWAY.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REVIEWED UNDER THE, UH, UNDER THE, THE NEXT CATEGORY.

BUT YEAH, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THE TOWER.

IT MADE IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ONES WE SAW.

MAYBE THEY DID EXTRA TREES OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, AGAIN, REMEMBER THAT THINGS ARE CUMULATIVE IN ONE SPACE.

SO PROBABLY THE REASON THAT THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT DIDN'T COME IN VERY WELL IS THEY PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF SPACE, BUT IT'S JUST ALL TURF, WHICH IS GIVES YOU A 0.0 0.01.

UM, SO LIKE YOU SAID, THE SMALLER SITES TEND TO DO A LITTLE BETTER, THE BETTER THEY TEND TO STACK IT UP, RIGHT? AGAIN, ALL OF THIS AREA YOU CAN SEE, IT'S NOT ONLY BEING TREES, THEY'RE PRO THEY'RE ALSO NATIVE.

UM, THEY PROBABLY HAVE A, IT SAYS THEY HAVE A GROUND COVER, SO THEY DIDN'T JUST LEAVE IT AS TURF.

THEY DIDN'T PUT IT IN AS ROCKS, UM, IS, UH, IS ROCK GOING TO BE ALLOWED IN THE CODE, GRAVEL AND ROCK, WHICH WE ARE SEEING EVERYWHERE.

UM, IT'S NOT ALLOWED RIGHT NOW AS A, AS A MULCH FOR GROUND COVERS OR TREES YET IT IS EVERYWHERE.

AND THAT IS A QUESTION TO THIS.

SO WOULD A GRAVELED COVERED BED, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS? IT WOULD NOT GET YOU ANY POINTS.

OKAY.

BUT DOES IT MEET LANDSCAPE CODE, THE REGULAR LANDSCAPE CODE? IF I DO GRAVEL, I NEED TO KNOW FOR MYSELF.

CAUSE I GET THIS QUESTION EVERY DAY.

IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF MEET OR NOT MEET THE LANDSCAPE CODE REQUIRES CERTAIN THINGS.

YOU CAN MEET IT BY DOING SOMETHING ELSE.

RIGHT.

BUT SO IF YOU HAVE GRAVEL IN ONE, IN ONE AREA, THEN THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE I WOULD SAY IT DOESN'T MEET.

THE CURRENT GRANT LANDSCAPE CODE IS IN A PARKING LOT ISLANDS, WHICH ARE, HAVE TO BE VEGETATED.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.

THIS DEALS WITH, UM, THERE'S QUESTIONS REGARDING WHO IS GOING TO REVIEW THIS AT THE CITY AND HOW'S IT GONNA WORK WITH THE REGULAR CODE, HOW YOU'RE GOING TO TRAIN EVERYBODY, BUT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PRODUCT OF DOING BUSINESS.

SO I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU.

WE'LL JUST BE CURIOUS.

HE HAS A CONSUMERS ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK, BUT MY WEST LAST QUESTION IS THIS, UM, ITEM IN THE UNDER REQUIREMENTS.

THE LAST ITEM SAYS THE FOLLOWING NOTE SHALL BE ADDED TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN USES THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN SCORING SYSTEM.

A SITE PLAN REVISION IS IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE DIRECTOR HAS TO DO THE FINAL INSPECTION OF YOUR PRODUCT.

ARE YOU ALL GOING TO HOLD TO THAT? A REVISION IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND IF I WANT TO CHANGE, WHAT IS AN ELEMENT? IF I CHANGE A SHRUB TO A GROUND COVER, THEY'RE BOTH FLOWERING AND THEY BOTH DO POLLINATOR.

DO I HAVE TO

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DO A REVISION TO MY PLAN? YES.

UM, THE IDEA IS SO CORRECTIONS, UM, ARE, UH, JUST IN THE REVIEW PROCESS CORRECTIONS KIND OF SKATE UNDER THE RADAR A LOT.

AND THAT WAS THE IDEA FOR MAKING IT HAVE TO BE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REDO THE SCORE.

UM, THAT, THAT ISN'T A, I MEAN, ALL THE, THE REGULAR LANDSCAPE REVIEWERS ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWING IT.

ANYWAY, WE REVIEW ALL THE CORRECTIONS AND THE RE AND THE REVISIONS.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY A HUNDRED PERCENT ANYWAY.

THAT'S YEP.

THAT'S ONEROUS FOR US.

UH TIME-WISE AND FINANCIALLY TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS SOMETIMES DUE TO AVAILABILITY OR AUSTIN ENERGY DECIDES THEY WANT SOMETHING AND WE HAVE TO MOVE SOMETHING AROUND.

AND I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO RECONSIDER THAT BECAUSE WE ARE LICENSED PROFESSIONALS, I THINK WE COULD WORK DIRECTLY WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING REASONABLE WITHOUT FIVE WEEKS OF A PROCESS.

AND WHAT DOES A REVISION COSTS NOW? THIS, I MEAN, IT'S IN THE IT'S PARDON, EIGHT MONTHS AND CONSULTANT COSTS TOO.

IT WOULDN'T BE UNUSUAL FOR A PLANT MATERIAL REVISION TO COST OF DEVELOPER $4,500 JUST TO REPROCESS.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT GONE NEWTON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? UH, YES.

COMMISSIONER.

YEAH.

I JUST ADD ONE LAST SOLID OR CON TO REITERATE THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF, YOU KNOW, THERE, WE, WE FOCUS ON THE ORDINANCE AND, YOU KNOW, OUR PLANS A LOT OF TIMES, BUT TO FOCUS ON THE PROCESS AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF IT IS JUST SO IMPORTANT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPERS I SEE ARE GETTING STRESSED AND STRESS MORE WITH THE SITE PLAN REVIEW TIMES, YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE, PEOPLE WOULD SAY, IT'S CRAZY IN AUSTIN.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SIX MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE LIKE IT'S 10 MONTHS SINCE A YEAR.

AND, UM, THE TIMES KEEP GETTING DRUGGED OUT FURTHER AND, UM, AND THEN UNKNOWN.

AND I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, I'M AN ARCHITECT, BUT I WORK WITH LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.

SO, BUT WHAT I SEE A LOT OF TIME IS, YOU KNOW, THE STRATEGY IS GET IT, START THE CLOCK TICKING AS SOON AS YOU CAN, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A YEAR PROCESS.

AND SO YOU GOT TO GET SOMETHING TOGETHER AND GET INTO THE CITY ASAP.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT'S REQUIRED FOR COMPLETENESS CHECK IS NOT A FULL LANDSCAPE PLAN.

AND SO I GUESS PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IF YOU KNOW, A LANDSCAPE PLAN HAS TO BE A FULL LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH ALL THE PLANT TYPES SPECIFIED AT THE BEGINNING, IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.

AND AS COMMISSIONER COLEMAN SAYS, WE GET OTHER DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A TREE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN NOT AND CHANGES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE.

AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE AT THE LAST MINUTE.

SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, IT DOES SEEM LIKE THESE REQUIREMENTS, ESPECIALLY FOR DENSE URBAN SITES, IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT, UM, TO ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THOSE EXAMPLES.

AND THEN I'M JUST AFRAID ABOUT THE INCREASED COST AND THE, AND THE TIME DURATION AND THE INCREASED PRESSURE ON STAFF TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO REVIEW THESE ITEMS. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WATLEY.

UM, JORGE NOTED THAT IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO PUT AN ITEM FOR AUCTION ON A FUTURE AGENDA, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE ON THAT.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T DO A FULL DISCUSSION TODAY, UM, YES.

OH, WHO ARE YOU POINTING AT WHEN I'M LIKE, OKAY, I SEE IT'S A CARTOON HAND.

UM, COMMISSIONER FRANCO YOU'RE ON MUTE COMMISSIONER FRANCO.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S ALL BY THAT.

NO, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, UH, UH, UM, COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, COMMISSIONER WILEY'S COMMENTS ABOUT, ABOUT THE PROCESS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE, THAT WE, UH, WE REFORMED THESE REVIEWS IN A TIMELY FASHION, BUT ALSO VERY, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS LEAST EXPENSIVE AS POSSIBLE.

UM, BUT MY OTHER QUESTION, IS THERE ANY THOUGHT PROCESS, IS THERE ANY THOUGHT AROUND, UM, KIND OF STREAMLINING THE, THIS PROCESS, THESE PROCESSES, OR LOWERING THOSE FEES AS COMMISSIONER COLEMAN MENTIONED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS? I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, KATIE COIN.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME ASSISTANT DIRECTOR KATIE COIN, UH, IS IN DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, UH, HOUSING DEPARTMENT ABOUT POSSIBLY SOME FUNDING OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S UM, THAT, THAT IS, I'M NOT IN, I'M NOT INVOLVED

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IN THAT, SO I'M NOT SURE, BUT THERE, THERE ARE CONSIDERATE PEOPLE ARE, WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT, UH, TO CONSIDER THAT.

OKAY.

UM, ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER? MY EYES? UM, SO MY QUESTION, UH, JUST STEMS FROM SOMETHING THAT I SAW RECENTLY WHERE METAGENE COLUMBIA, UH, HAD CONVERTED 18, UH, STREETS INTO URBAN FORESTS.

AND SO THEY FOUND THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO REDUCE, UH, THE, BY AS MUCH AS FIVE AND A HALF DEGREES FAHRENHEIT.

UM, AND I SAW THE DIFFERENT AMBITIONS THAT THIS PLAN HAS.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CONSTRAINTS, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENTS.

SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IS SHADE, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, REDUCING, UM, THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT, UH, UH, PART OF THIS AND HOW MUCH, UM, UH, IS INVOLVED WHEN SOMEONE DOES WANT TO, UH, PUT TREES THAT ARE IN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY, LIKE W WHAT DOES THAT, IS THAT GOING TO ALONG GATE THEIR APPROVAL? UM, I WILL SAY HEAT ISLAND EFFECT WAS DEFINITELY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

UH, I SUPPLIED FOR, ARE PROVIDED FOR BACKUP MATERIAL, ALL OF THE, UH, THE RESEARCH THAT WAS DONE AND YOU'LL SEE THAT HEAT ISLAND, UH, IS, UH, IS A FACTOR IN ALL OF THOSE, UH, ALL THE STUDIES THAT WERE DONE, THE LITERATURE REVIEW AND THE, UM, ANALYSIS AND ALL THAT.

UM, AND WHAT WAS THE SECOND PART, WAS THIS I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE A PRIORITY OF THE CITY TO TRY TO REDUCE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THE HUMAN SCALE, PROVIDE SHADE FOR PEDESTRIANS.

AND I COULD JUST SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DO THAT, UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND I JUST WONDER IF THAT'S A DISPARATE PROCESS OR IS THAT INTEGRATED INTO THIS, UM, PROCESS OF GETTING, UH, APPROVAL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

IT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS.

UM, AND, UH, THE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE FORTHCOMING AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, UH, CRITERIA MANUAL WILL HAVE MORE REQUIREMENTS FOR TREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THESE WILL DOVETAIL WITH THOSE.

UM, SO, UH, BUT, BUT YES, IT DOES TAKE MORE, UH, PAPERWORK.

YEAH, IT DOES.

IT DOES TAKE WORK TO GET STUFF IN THE, UH, TO GET THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, TO PUT STUFF IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

UH, BUT I, AND I WILL ALL, I WILL SAY THAT THIS PLAN HAS A BONUS POINTS FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING, UM, UH, ACCESSIBLE GREEN AND, UH, THAT'S GREEN THAT'S IN THE, SO THAT'S PLANTINGS THAT ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR RIGHT NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

MR. COLEMAN AND QUICK QUESTION.

WHEN IS THE FINAL LANGUAGE GOING TO BE ISSUED FOR REVIEW? WE ARE PROPOSING THE CURRENT LANGUAGE.

UH, IT'S LIKE WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S ALL HAPPENING SUPER FAST.

UH, I THINK, WELL, IN THE END OF SEPTEMBER, I THINK IS WHEN THE FINAL LANGUAGE HAS DONE THAT'S MORE THAN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT IT'S CLOSE.

SO, SO THIS IS IT PRETTY CLOSE.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, I AM A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER.

IS THERE GOING TO BE FUTURE NOTICE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU START A PROJECT THAT TAKES, YOU KNOW, REALLY YEARS BEFORE YOU'RE READY TO BREAK GROUND FROM THAT INITIAL ACQUISITION AND PARTNERSHIP NEGOTIATION TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SITE FOOD, SOME AT ALL.

UM, SO I THINK SOMETHING AS SUBSTANTIAL AS THIS, ESPECIALLY FOR URBAN AND DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS NOTICE AS, AS BIG OF A CHANGE TO PROJECT BUDGETS AS THIS WILL BE, UM, WOULD BE REALLY FAIR FOR DEVELOPERS SO THAT THEY CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY AND, AND STRUCTURE THEIR, THEIR AGREEMENTS ACCORDINGLY.

IS THAT IN CONSIDERATION? I, I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO, UH, AS A COMMISSION, ARE WE INTERESTED IN PUTTING AN ITEM ON ACTION AND ACTION ITEM FOR A FUTURE AGENDA REGARDING FUNCTIONAL GREEN? OKAY.

YES.

COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

I HAVE SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE BACK TO YOUR TEAM.

IF I CAN, IF I SPECIFY A DWARF BETHANY, LET'S CALL IT A BETHANY AND I CAN'T GET THOSE DUE TO SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS WE HAVE IN THE MARKET RIGHT

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NOW, I'M MAKING REVISIONS EVERYDAY TO PLANS.

I GET SUBMITTAL REQUESTS EVERY DAY FOR PROJECTS.

WE DESIGNED TWO YEARS AGO, I'M MAKING PLANS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF EVERY DAY.

SO THEREFORE IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND DEVELOPER'S GOING TO SAY, WHY THE HECK DID WE HIRE YOU TO DO TWO YEARS WORTH OF WORK? AND NOW IT'S LAST MINUTE.

AND I HAVE TO GO IN FOR A REVISION TO DELAY MY PROJECT FOR FIVE WEEKS TO CHANGE THAT BETTANY TO IS X MINEA.

WHY IS THAT IN THERE THAT, OH, THIS CAME OUT TWO YEARS PLUS AGO, MAYBE THREE, AND THIS HAS BEEN CONSISTENT FEEDBACK.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOUR GROUP, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN LISTENED TO SAY, I'M NOT SPEAKING OF THIS COMMISSION LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.

RIGHT.

UM, ARE WE DONE? THE ANSWER IS YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO CHAIR TO HAVE ACTION ITEMS, WHATEVER NEXT MEETINGS REGARDING THIS ISSUE.

OKAY.

CHECK, TERRIFY ME.

YES.

COMMISSIONER THE ACTION ITEM HAS TO BE SPECIFIC FOR US TO POST AN ITEM FOR ACTION.

SO YOU WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE AS PART OF YOUR EMOTION, THE SPECIFIC POSTING LANGUAGE YOU WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO TAKE ACTION ON.

AND IF I MAY CLARIFY CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU CAN ISSUE.

AND IN THE FORM OF AN ACTUAL RESOLUTION FROM THE DESIGN OR A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU ARE FORWARDING TO THE COUNCIL AND OR THE STAFF, BUT THEY NEED TO BE SPECIFIC.

YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO POST AN ITEM AS AN EXAMPLE, IF I MAY DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON FUNCTIONAL GREEN, THAT IS TOO BROAD AND A LOT OF DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO POST AN ITEM LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

WITH THOSE PARAMETERS, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERESTS AND KIND OF HOW FUNCTIONAL GREEN WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AND MESSAGE COSTS AND TIMELINE.

UM, COULD WE POST THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM? DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR I GUESS I'M MAKING THE MOTION.

UM, DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND? OKAY.

EXCUSE ME, TERRIFY ME.

YES.

I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER COLEMAN WAS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.

SO YOU CANNOT SECOND YOUR OWN MOTION.

I WOULD RATHER RESCIND MY MOTION AND ALLOW CHAIR TO MAKE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU.

DOES SHE NEED TO REPEAT THE MOTION AGAIN? WE JUST NEED A SECOND UNDER A SECOND, PLEASE.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER LUKENS.

OKAY.

WHAT COULD BE SURE THAT THE MOTION YOU MADE BE SUSTAINED TO BE SUFFICIENT FOR US TO MAKE A RESOLUTION NEXT MONTH AND NOT BE TOLD THAT SOMEHOW OUR POSTING WAS INADEQUATE.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

IF I MAY CHAIR, YES.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE WITH THE POSTING COMMISSIONER BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE FOR THE POSTING OF THE ITEM IS QUITE SPECIFIC TO ADDRESS SEVERAL ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION IS WISHING TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION, WHETHER THAT BE A RECOMMENDATION THROUGH A RESOLUTION OR RECOMMENDATION IS THE PREROGATIVE OF THE COMMISSION.

STAFF WILL NOT TELL YOU HOW TO FORMULATE THAT RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY POST AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION.

AND THEREFORE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE DISCUSSION AMONG YOURSELVES AND TAKE SPECIFIC ACTION ON ANY OR ALL THE ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE LISTED FOR ACTION.

THANK YOU WITH THAT.

CAN WE CREATE A WORKING GROUP BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A RESOLUTION TO, TO VOTE ON SO WE CAN GET TO CITY COUNCIL A LITTLE FASTER? DO WE HAVE ANY INTERESTED IN WORKING GROUP REGARDING FUNCTIONAL GREEN CHAIR? MAY I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION FROM PAMELA? YOU INDICATED PAMELA THAT THIS IS A DONE DEAL IN A MATTER OF WEEKS, IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL YET AT ALL.

UH, WE ARE TAKING IT TO THE, OR SHOPPING IT TO THE COMMISSIONS RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE QUICK.

I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THE SCHEDULE WITH ME RIGHT NOW.

I CAN GET THAT TO, UH, TO HAVE IT, UM, SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY.

I DO NEED A W W WHEN IS YOUR NEXT MEETING? SEPTEMBER 6TH.

HOWEVER, IT MIGHT BE TOO LATE IF I MAY, IF I MADE THAT IS A HOLIDAY THAT IS RUSSIA.

SHAUNA.

YOU'RE STILL HAVING A COMMISSION MEETING THOUGH.

UH, GENERIC, IF I, IF I MAY MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

YES.

YEAH.

UM, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE, UM, LANGUAGE

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AROUND, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, HOW DOES IMPACTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT, WHAT, UM, WHAT THINGS NEED TO DO WELL, HOW DOES IT IMPACT AFFORDABLE HOUSING? BUT I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD AT THE END, WHATEVER THIS, WHATEVER THIS STATEMENT ENDS UP TO BE, I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD AT THE END AND OTHER FACTORS THAT MAY BE APPLICABLE TO FUNCTIONAL GREEN AS A CATCHALL.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT I SERVE ON OTHER D ON MANY OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND WE'VE HAD SOME VERY, WHAT I THINK 4K WOULDN'T CONSIDER VAGUE STATEMENTS, UH, COME TO US.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE STATE'S INPUT WHEN WE TOOK ACTION ON THAT ONE, IT SAID DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON 3 0 5 SOUTH CONGRESS, NO SPECIFIC ACTION.

SO I WOULD SAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S LEAVE THIS AND LET'S, LET'S MAKE THIS AS SPECIFIC AS WE CAN, BUT I THINK IF WE WE'D GIVE OUR SOMEONES A CATCH ALL, I THINK THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

AND I'M PERSONALLY WILLING TO RISK THAT.

I THINK A LOT OF DEPARTMENT WOULD LET US MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT WITHOUT HAVING A WORKING GROUP GO OVER SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN DETAIL, UM, TO PROVIDE EVERY SPECIFIC ACTION WE WANT TO HAVE RIGHT NOW BASED ON A 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION.

AND SO I APPRECIATE IT IS CONSIDERED AND, AND SUPPORT TO GET THIS THING THROUGH.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO BE AS SPECIFIC AS THAT.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR PAMELA.

SO DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU'RE REVIEWING FUNCTIONAL GREEN AT? UM, I AM TRA TEXTS, SORRY TO BE SO RUDELY TEXTING, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF SOMEBODY TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FINAL DATE IS, UH, THAT WE COULD MAKE CHANGES.

AND YES, THERE IS A DATE FOR IT TO GO BACK.

WE'RE ALREADY A LITTLE BIT, IT'S ALREADY BEEN PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY SEPTEMBER 15TH, BUT IT'S BEEN PUSHED TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

SO, UM, SO I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FINAL DATE IS THAT YOU CAN MAKE.

I'M HOPING SOMEBODY WILL TEXT SHORTLY.

UM, I CAN STAY AFTER MY PRESENTATION TO FIND OUT THE INFORMATION BEFORE YOUR MEETINGS OVER.

OKAY.

WELL, LET'S JUST, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A GUESS THAT IT'S PROBABLY BEEN PUSHED BACK JUST BECAUSE I, A LITTLE BIT AWARE OF WHEN COUNCIL AGENDAS ARE CLOSING.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WORKING GROUP.

DO WE HAVE INTERESTS? COMMISSIONER COLEMAN WANTS TO BE IN THE WORKING GROUP, COMMISSIONER FRANCO, DO YOU OKAY? YEAH.

TERRIFY ME.

YES.

YOU DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE AND INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING GROUP COMPRISE THE COMMISSION, FRANCO COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

THAT'S ALREADY ACTIVE.

IF YOU WISH TO CREATE A NEW WORKING GROUP, STEP WOULD ADVISE, CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT WOULD ADVISE YOU TO TAKE THAT UNDER THE OTHER ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA THAT IS POSTED FOR ACTION THIS EVENING TO MODIFY THE COMPOSITION OF YOUR WORKING GROUPS THAT'S NOT REQUIRED OR NECESSARY.

HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE AN ACTIVE LANDSCAPE AND INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING GROUP THAT COULD SUFFICE TO BEGIN WORKING ON THIS IF TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, SO WITH THAT, ONCE WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ASSIGN THE URBAN INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD FIT LANDSCAPE AND INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING GROUP.

YOU GUYS CAN WORK ON THIS COMMISSIONER FRANCO WHILE YOU WERE UP.

UH, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE WORKING GROUP TO, TO CREATE SOME LANGUAGE FOR US AT THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

MOVING ON, UH, ITEM THREE DISCUSSION AND POP'S POSSIBLE ACTION TO DETERMINE SURE.

IF I MAY, I APOLOGIZE, YOU DID NOT TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION AND THE SECOND, AND YOU HAD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE TO REPEAT THE WHOLE THING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT THE WHOLE THING.

YOU JUST NEED A VOTE AND THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, AS WELL AS THE SECOND HAS TO ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT BY COMMISSIONER FRANCO.

WHAT I, I HAVE THE DATES, IF THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR ANYBODY.

SO COUNT, WE'RE GOING TO COUNSEL ON THE 29TH OF SEPTEMBER.

SO THE END, AND WE CAN MAKE TWEAKS UP UNTIL THEN TWEAKS.

SO CHAIR, IF I MAY HAVE Y'ALL MADE ANY TWEAKS WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED THREE YEARS AGO, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY, ANY TWEAKS TO THE LANGUAGE? I DON'T, I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE ANY TWEAKS.

IF I WROTE THEM DOWN, I TRIED TO RESPOND TO THEM.

I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING THREE YEARS AGO THAT I HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO.

IT WAS THE DOCUMENT MODIFIED BASED UPON THE FEEDBACK YOU GOT THREE YEARS AGO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OH YEAH.

OKAY.

I'M TRYING TO RESPOND TO EVERYTHING IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF IN THE CODE THAT I'M LANGUAGE THAT I'M PROPOSING.

YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I'LL REVIEW THAT.

AND JUST MAYBE, MAYBE ASK A FEW MORE QUESTIONS DURING THAT MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON COMMISSIONER? FRANCO'S FRIENDLY AMENDMENT

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TO INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSIDERATIONS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

LUKINS UM, SOMEONE ELSE'S.

OKAY.

DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND AGAIN FOR YOU? NOPE.

JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU DON'T NEED A SECOND ON, ON THAT.

YOU HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ON THE TABLES.

SO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION HAS TO AGREE AS WELL AS THE SECOND.

AND THEN YOU CAN CALL THE QUESTION FOR THE DO AGREE.

YOU AGREE? OKAY.

NOW I AGREE.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN WE INFLUENCE ON OUR END, OUR MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

OKAY.

SHOULDN'T PASSES.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

[3. Discussion and possible action to determine whether Parque Zaragoza Neighborhood Park Restroom Rehabilitation Project, located at 721 Pedernales Street, complies with the City Design and Sustainability Standards. Presented by Reynaldo Hernandez, Parks and Recreation Department.]

UM, DISCUSS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DETERMINE WHETHER PARK IS THERE.

IT GOES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK RESTROOM REHAB PROJECT LOCATED AT 7 21 PER NALA IS COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS PRESENTED BY RINALDO HERNANDEZ, HERNANDEZ FROM PARKS AND REC, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS RAY HERNANDEZ.

I'M A PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND I'M HERE AS A REQUEST, UH, FOR THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS HELD IN JUNE TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE PARKING, SIR, IT GOES TO PROJECT.

UM, SO AT THIS TIME, IF YOU CAN PLEASE BRING UP THE PRESENTATION I PROVIDED AND GO TO SLIDE FOUR.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THIS IS THE NEW SLIDE, UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR IMAGE, UH, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME REVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE TO THE BUILDING DESIGN, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE EXTERIOR AND, UH, THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT SHOWS THE PROPOSAL TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL SHADE STRUCTURES.

AND BY ADDING THESE SHADE STRUCTURES, WE REMOVED THE SHADE STRUCTURES THAT WERE ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING, UM, ESPECIALLY AT THE THREE ENTRY WAYS AND EXITS OF THE ACTIVITY ROOM.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE CHANGE.

THE OTHER CHANGE THAT WE DID WAS YOU ALSO MODIFIED THE ENTRY TO THE BUILDING.

UH, THERE WAS A LARGE SHADE STRUCTURE THAT WAS, UH, PLANNED THERE.

UH, THAT STRAIGHTS SHADE STRUCTURE WAS REDUCED IN SIZE.

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HERE'S THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING? UH, THIS IS, UH, FROM THE POOL, THE INTERIOR, UH, OF THE FACILITY ITSELF, LOOKING BACK AT THE BUILDING, THE ENTRY TO THE PROPOSED, UH, RESTROOM AND ACTIVITY SPACES ON YOUR LEFT, UH, WHERE YOU SEE THAT LARGE, TALL LIGHTING FIXTURE, UH, THE DOOR WHERE THERE IS THE ENTRY TO THE BATHHOUSE ITSELF, THE ARTS WAYS THAT YOU SEE HERE.

UM, THESE ARE THE DECORATIVE ARCHWAYS THAT THE ABILITY CURRENTLY HAS, AND WE INTEND TO SCREEN THOSE.

THOSE WOULD, UH, BE LEFT AS IS, THEY'RE JUST SCREENED RIGHT NOW.

THERE THEY ARE, UH, THE CURRENT ENTRY AND EXIT, UH, VOCATIONS FOR THE BUILDING, THE THREE LARGE OPENINGS YOU SEE ON THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE DOUBLE DOORS, UH, WHICH WILL ALLOW ENTRY AND EXIT ONTO THE POOL SPACE.

AND THEN ALSO TO THE PARK, BEYOND THE FOUR SHADE STRUCTURES THAT YOU SEE HERE, UH, THOSE ARE THE EXISTING SHADE STRUCTURES WE'RE ADDING TO, UH, THE TWO STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE ADDING ARE THE ONES CLOSEST TO THE BUILDING IN TREE AND THE ARCH, UM, UH, DETAILS OF THE BUILDING.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REQUESTED WAS AN EXPLANATION OF THE CIRCULATION ROUTES.

SO THIS IS SHOWING, UM, THE CIRCULATION ROUTE FROM THE EXISTING ADA PARKING SPOT TO THE ENTRY, TO THE BUILDING, AND THAT'S, UH, ILLUSTRATED WITH THE RED CIRCLES.

SO THERE IS ONE ADA SPOT CURRENTLY THERE, AND WE'RE, UM, USING THAT SPOT AS THE ADA ACCESS TO THE POOL HOUSE AND PULL THE BATH HOUSE, I SHOULD SAY.

AND THE RED DOTS INDICATE THE CIRCULATION ROUTE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

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THIS IS A LARGER VIEW OF THE OVERALL PARK AND MY APOLOGIES FOR MISSPELLING UNDER THE KEY LEGEND, UH, BIKE, UH, CITY BI K E INSTEAD OF BIC K.

SO THE YELLOW DOTS INDICATE THE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION ROUTES, UH, PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD IS OFF TO ON THE SLIDE.

IT'S ON YOUR RIGHT.

AND, UM,

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I'M SORRY.

NORTH PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD IS ON YOUR RIGHT PER ANALYSIS ON YOUR LEFT.

AND THEN IN THIS GENERAL AREA WHERE THE CREEK IS THE TRANSITIONS TO WHERE REVEAL ROAD AT BOTH ON A RUBBER VILLE ROAD AND PER DENALIS AND PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD, THERE ARE BIKE LANES, UH, THE ONE ON PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD.

THERE'S A BIKE LANE ON EACH OF THE ROAD, UH, LANES.

SO ONE GOING NORTH AND ONE GOING SOUTH AND ON IT IS ONE COMBINED BIKE LANE WHERE THERE'S THE BIKE LANE, THAT'S SPLIT GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.

THE YELLOW INDICATES THE PEDESTRIAN ROUTES, OR HERE'S THE CIRCULATION PATTERN, UH, FROM THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY AND ALLOWS YOU TO GO, UM, WALK ONTO THE PARK SITE AND THEN GET TO THE PATH BATH HOUSE.

THAT'S PR THAT'S BEING REVITALIZED.

UH, THE OTHER ROUTE PEDESTRIAN ROUTE FROM NORTH PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD.

UH, YOU ENTER THROUGH, UH, NORTH VALLEY ROAD AND THEN ENTER THROUGH THE PARK SITE AND MAKE YOUR WAY OVER TO THE RED, WHICH IS THE INDICATOR OF THE ADA, UH, ROUTE, UH, IN THE PARK.

THE ADA PARKING FOR PARKING, SIR GOSA IS PREDOMINANTLY AT THE RECREATION CENTER AND THIS PARKING LOT HAS RECENTLY BEEN REDONE AND THE ADA HAS BEEN IMPROVED.

UH, IT'S BEEN IMPROVED FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE ENTRY, TO THE FACILITY, THE ADJACENT GONZALEZ STREET INTO THE ENTRY OF THE FACILITY.

ONCE YOU ENTER THE FACILITY YOU EXIT TO THE BACK AND THE ADA, UH, DOESN'T NEED WALKWAY WILL THEN TAKE YOU TO THE CURRENT BATH HOUSE.

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THIS IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF OUR LEED V4 INTERIOR DESIGN IN COMMERCIAL SPACES.

AND AT THE MOMENT WE ARE, UH, ACHIEVING A CERTIFIED CERTIFIED OR A CLASSIFICATION FOR LEAD.

WE ARE STRIVING TO MEET AS MANY OF THE POINTS THAT YOU SEE HERE.

THE CHALLENGE OF COURSE, IS THAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE AN OPEN AIR BUILDING.

SO WE ARE LIMITED TO SOME OF THE, UM, UH, SOME OF THE MATERIALS OR RESOURCES THAT WE CAN USE.

AND THEN ALSO THE INDOOR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, UH, POINTS THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE, THAT WE ARE STRIVING TO GET AS MANY OF THESE AS POSSIBLE.

AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THIS IS, UH, FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.

SO WE ARE WRAPPING UP OUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT SET, AND WE HOPE TO GO OUT TO BID, UM, IN LATE 20, 22.

AND WE DO ANTICIPATE TO HAVE THE BUILDING OPEN FOR THE SWIM SEASON 2023.

AND THAT CONCLUDES, UH, THE UPDATES THAT I BELIEVE WERE REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU, MR. HERNANDEZ.

UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME YOU PUT IN DESCRIBING THE ACCESSIBILITY AND, UM, THE, SHE HAD CONCERNS THAT WE HAD AT OUR LAST MEETING.

UH, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER FRANCO.

OH, LORDY LORDY, EVERY TIME, EVERY TIME.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SO TALKING WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, THEIR, I GUESS THEIR RECOLLECTION, CAUSE I WASN'T HERE, UM, UH, BACK IN 1997, BUT THEIR RECOLLECTION OF THIS, UH, IS THAT THIS BUILDING IS TO THEM ESSENTIALLY FELT CLOSED SINCE BACK IN 1997, WHEN YOU ORIGINAL, WHEN THE, WHEN THE NEW REC CENTER OPENED UP.

SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS OR WASN'T, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S FELT THAT WAY TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THEN I NOTICED IT IN, IN THE BACKUP, UM, AND YOU PUT IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE BONDS THAT HAVE, THAT ARE FUNDING, THIS PROJECT ONE FROM 2012, IT'S IN THE BACKUP.

AND THEN OF COURSE, ONE FROM 2018, WHAT'S WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? WHAT'S THE HOLDUP.

WHY IS THIS TAKING SO LONG? WHY IS THIS PROCESS TAKING SO LONG? WHY, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS FUNDING AVAILABLE IN 2012.

UM, WHY IS IT TAKING 10 YEARS TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW? UM, UM, I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S TAKING THIS LONG.

UM, THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WHEN THE BONDS, UH, FUNDING, UH, CRITERIA SET BY THE DEPARTMENT, THERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN DOLLARS ARE ALLOCATED TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS UNTIL THERE'S ENOUGH FUNDING.

YOU MOVE THOSE PROJECTS FORWARD.

UM, THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION THAT I CAN RELATE TO YOU BASED ON YOUR QUESTION, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YES, I DO.

UM, AND THIS COMES FROM TALKING TO SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

UM,

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I THOUGHT THAT ON THE SIDE OF THE OPPOSITE SIDE, THAT DOESN'T FACE THE POOL.

WHAT'S WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS FOR THE DESIGNS FOR DESIGNS? IF ON THE, ON THE SIDE, IT DOESN'T FACE THE POOL.

SO THE TYPE OF FACES TO THE PARK, ESSENTIALLY.

SURE.

SO THE SITE, UH, THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT FACES THE PARK, UM, THAT WILL, UM, BE THE MAIN ENTRY INTO THE BATH HOUSE.

THERE WILL BE A SMALL STATE STRUCTURE THAT WILL BE PUT IN PLACE, THE EXISTING OVERHEAD CANOPY THAT'S THERE.

NOW DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ADA ACCESS THAT HAS TO GET MODIFIED.

THERE HAS TO BE A MODIFICATION TO THAT, THE EXISTING WINDOWS THAT FACE THE PARKSIDE.

UH, THOSE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE, UH, ALTERED AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALTERED SO THAT IN I'LL BECOME A DOUBLE DOORS, UH, THAT FACED THE PARK.

AND SO THAT WOULD ALLOW PARK USERS TO INTER UH, THAT ACTIVE SPACE THAT WE'RE PLANNING THE PARK SUMMIT.

AND THEN POTENTIALLY IF THE OTHER DOORS, THE OTHER DOUBLE DOORS ARE OPEN ON THE POOL SIDE ALLOWS FOR ACCESS TO GO THROUGH, UM, THAT ACTIVITY SPACE.

BUT AS FAR AS FACADE CHANGES, THINGS LIKE THAT, I NOTICED IT'S IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF NATIONAL NATIONAL REGISTER, HISTORIC PLACES, AS FAR AS FACADE CHANGES, THERE'S NO MAJOR CHANGES PLAN THAT I MAKE, RIGHT.

THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE CHANGES.

OKAY.

AND THEN, AND THEN JUST GOING BACK TO THAT, JUST TRYING TO DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER, BUT THE BILLING ISN'T, AS FAR AS WHY THIS HAS TAKEN SO LONG, UM, DOES THE BUILDING HAVE ANY MAJOR ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH OR SOME HEALTH CONCERNS? WHAT, WHAT, UH, THERE ARE MAJOR, UM, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ISSUES, BUT CHALLENGES WITH THE BUILDING.

UH, ONE, THERE IS A LAD, UM, IN THE BUILDING AND THERE'S ALSO SOME SPOUSES, THE ROOF STRUCTURE, AND THOSE ITEMS NEED TO GET TAKEN CARE OF BEFORE.

UM, AS PART OF THE REHABILITATION, THE OTHER THING THAT'S A CONCERN AND WHICH REALLY WAS THE MOST CHALLENGING PARTS OF THE PROJECT WAS ENSURING THAT WE HAVE ADA ACCESS IN THE INTERIOR SPACES, ESPECIALLY IN THE RESTROOM FACILITIES.

SO IF YOU WERE TO COMPARE THE EXISTING OR OUT OF THE BUILDING WITH THE PROPOSAL OR PLAN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE RESTROOMS HAVE TAKEN OVER, UM, THAT ONE LARGE SECTION OF THE BUILDING, BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS IS AN L SHAPE.

SO IT'S T OVER THE, THE BOTTOM OF THE OWL.

SO YOU HAVE THE MEDS IN THE WOMEN'S RESTROOM FACILITY.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT HAS CHANGED IS THAT WE HAD TO DEDICATE A NEW ENTRY AND EXIT BATHHOUSE ON THE POOL SIDE.

SO PRIOR TO, UH, THE PREVIOUS SIX OF THE BUILDING, I SHOULD SAY, USE THE ARCHWAYS AS THE ENTRIES AND EXITS, BUT THOSE ARE NOT ADA COMPLIANT.

SO WE HAD TO PUT IN OR DESIGN IN A WHOLE NEW ENTRY TO ALLOW ACCESS, ACCESS FRONT THE POOL INTO THE BATH HOUSE.

GOTCHA.

GOTCHA.

AND IS THIS OR THESE MS. RAMONA NOTIFICATION? IS IT JUST GETTING US WELL, THIS LAST ROUND OF FUNDING WAS GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, AS FAR AS ASBESTOS CONCERNS, ELEPHANTS LED CONCERNS, THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND GIVE US THE, THE AESTHETICS AND FUNCTIONALITY THAT WE WANT.

SO YES, THAT'S, THAT'S THE HOPE.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY IT COMMISSIONER LUKENS? I MEAN, WATLEY, I'M SORRY.

IT DID IT AGAIN.

YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT COULD SPUR SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION, NOT TRYING TO CUT OFF DISCUSSION EARLY, BUT WE DID SEE THIS TWO MONTHS AGO, WE DIDN'T MEET LAST MONTH.

UM, I BASICALLY LIKED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS, AS SUBMITTED AND PRESENTED