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UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON.
ARE YOU, UM, ARE YOU PRESENT? GREAT.
SO WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER AVAILA.
[CALL TO ORDER]
ORDER, UH, THE MEETING OF THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE AT 3 0 2.[Public Communication: General]
BY, UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, FOUR SPEAKERS AND I DON'T, WE WERE CHECKING ON THE NAMES.
WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE? VIRTUAL EDWARDS ON THE PHONE.
EDWARD, CAN YOU HEAR US, MR. FRIEDMAN? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN.
UH, HELLO, MY NAME IS ED
I'M CALLING TO ASK COUNCIL TO ENACT AN IMMEDIATE MORATORIUM ON ISSUING SHORT-TERM RENTAL LICENSES.
I HAD PLANNED TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY TO EXPLAIN WHY PLATFORM ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS NEED TO BE ADDED TO AUSTIN, THE SEARCH TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT ENFORCEABLE BECAUSE OF A COURT RULING IN NEW ORLEANS, JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, WE HAVE THIS EVEN MORE URGENT NEED, AND THAT IS FOR COUNCIL TO IMMEDIATELY PLACE A MORATORIUM ON ISSUING NEW STR LICENSES.
NEW ORLEANS PASSED AN IMMEDIATE MORATORIUM LAST WEEK, AND AUSTIN NEEDS TO DO THE SAME WITHOUT DELAY.
HERE'S WHY NEW ORLEANS HAD A SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE SIMILAR TO AUSTIN'S, WHICH CLASSIFIED PROPERTY IS EITHER OWNER OCCUPIED, WHICH AUSTIN CALLS
WHO'S IN THE SORT OF TERM RENTAL BUSINESS, WHICH WE CALL STR TO NEW ORLEANS ORDINANCE ONLY ALLOWED OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES TO BE LICENSED AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS, JUST AS AUSTIN ONLY LICENSES AS TIER ONE PROPERTIES.
NOW IT'S VERY LIMITED EXCEPTION.
OUT-OF-STATE PROPERTY OWNERS SUED NEW ORLEANS IN FEDERAL COURT OVER BEING DENIED SHORT-TERM RENTAL LICENSES.
AND TWO WEEKS AGO, THE FIFTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS RULED NEW ORLEANS ORDINANCE UNCONSTITUTIONAL SAYING IT VIOLATED THE COMMERCE CLAUSE BY LIMITING AS TIARA LICENSES TO OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES.
AND THEN IT'S OUT OF STATE PROPERTY OWNERS RETREATED DIFFERENTLY.
THIS FEDERAL APPEARS COURT RULING EFFECTIVELY STRIKES DOWN PARTS OF AUSTIN'S STR ORDINANCE AS WELL.
IF THE CITY CAN'T HAVE DIFFERENT RULES FOR, FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE IN THEIR HOUSE AND INVESTORS AND LIVE ELSEWHERE, THIS MEANS IT'S NOW OPEN SEASON ON NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND ONE WEEK AFTER THE RULING IT CITY COUNCIL PASSED A SIX MONTHS MORATORIUM ON ISSUING STR LICENSES EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
THIS GIVES THE CITY TIME TO COME UP WITH A NEW REGULATORY PROCESS FOR STRS, BETTER TO NOT LET ANYONE GET A LICENSE.
ALL THIS IS SORTED OUT AND TO BE OVERRUN WITH LICENSE APPLICATIONS THAT CAN'T BE REJECTED.
AUSTIN NEEDS TO DO THE SAME AND ACT AN IMMEDIATE MORATORIUM ON ISSUING AS TRM LICENSES.
WHILE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT CHANGES WE WANT IN OUR ORDINANCE, WE CAN'T LET STR OPERATORS ESTABLISH FACTS ON THE GROUND THAT CAN'T BE UNDONE WITH A NEW ORDINANCE.
REMEMBER THIS ATARI DECISION FROM THE TEXAS COURT LIMITS, HOW AUSTIN CAN MAKE RETROACTIVE RULES ABOUT STR OWNERSHIP.
WE URGENTLY NEED AN IMMEDIATE MORATORIUM ON STR LICENSES WHILE WE SORT THIS OUT.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
APPRECIATE, UM, WE APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING WITH US TODAY.
WHO'S OUR NEXT SPEAKER? DEBBIE RAMIRO.
I'M HERE TO REPRESENT GOOGLE MOBILE HOME TRAILER PARK HERE AT 48, 11 SOUTH CONGRESS.
WE HAD A MEETING HERE WITH CITY HALL ON, UH, THE SEPTEMBER 1ST.
WE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE THAT WE HAD GOT A NOTICE FOR US TO VACATE OUR PROPERTY.
UH, THEY GAVE US UNTIL NOVEMBER TO MOVE.
THEY SAID YOU GOT FIVE MONTHS OF RENT FREE, JUST LEAVE.
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THE REASON THEY GAVE US THREE MONTHS TO MOVE IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO LICENSE TO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LEGAL LICENSE RIGHT NOW TO RUN THE DOCK, THE TRAILER PARK.THEY HAVE VERY MANY, A CITY VIOLATIONS.
THE MANAGEMENT AT THIS TIME THERE A LOT OF CITY CODE VIOLATIONS ARE TAKING PLACE, UM, WHERE WE ARE REQUESTING TODAY.
UH, WE HAD SPOKE, UM, WE HAD MS. MS. VANESSA, UH, WEDNESDAYS ASKED FOR THE DISCOVERY THAT I HAD OR THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'RE PAYING CITIZENS WERE A LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, OUR COMMUNITY, UH, WE'VE ALL LIVED THERE MORE THAN 15 TO 20 TO 30, 35 YEARS THERE, UM, RECEIPTS THAT WE PAY THE OWNER, HE REFUSED TO TAKE THE LAST PAYMENT DUE TO HE DIDN'T HAVE A LICENSE TO COLLECT, BUT HE DID COLLECT FOR A WHOLE YEAR THAT HE WAS NOT LICENSED.
UM, WE'RE ASKING THAT THEY HELP US PAY FOR OUR MOVING, UH, COST.
UM, OUR, UM, MOVING THE TRAILER, GETTING ASSESSED ALL THE, ALL THE, THAT APPLY THE LIGHT AND THE GAS CONNECTIONS WE'RE ASKING.
UH, WE CAME AND WE SPOKE WITH MR. ANTLER, THE MAYOR AND THE COMMUNITY HERE.
THEY SAID THEY WOULD TRY TO SEE IF THEY BOUGHT, IF WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST WITH THE HELP US BY THE, THE COMMUNITY, THE, THE TRAILER PARK, UH, IF Y'ALL COULD DO THAT, WE WOULD BE OBLIGED.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE ALL PAY OUR RENT ON TIME.
WE PAY LIKE TWO MONTHS AHEAD AT TIME.
UM, ALSO IF THAT CANNOT BE DONE, UM, AT LEAST HELP US GET MORE TIME, UH, WITH THE OWNER.
LIKE I SAID, THE OWNER, UH, THE MANAGEMENT REFUSES TO GIVE US THE OWNER RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE JUST STUCK UPON RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE, UH, PEOPLE HERE.
UM, THEY'RE CALLING THEM THE DIRTY DEALS THAT OUR AUSTIN REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT PLAYERS IN THE NATE PAUL'S FORECLOSURES GOING BEYOND THE LAW.
WELL, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE REGULAR PEOPLE, RED COLLAR SHIRTS WERE JUST VOTED WORK, COME HOME AND REST.
BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING AGAINST.
UH, PAUL LOST NINE PROPERTIES WORTH COMBINED, 130, 8 MILLION AND FORECLOSURE.
UM, HERE, ALL THE DOCUMENTS, IT'S ON THE NEWS EVERYWHERE, YOU KNOW, WIDE, UH, WE NEED HELP OUR PROPERTY.
THERE'S ANOTHER GENTLEMAN THAT'S HERE.
I'M PRETTY SURE Y'ALL HAVE SEEN HIM ON THE NEWS.
HE'S SAYING THAT HE'S BUYING THE PROPERTY.
UM, MAYBE WE COULD MEET WITH HIM.
THIS IS LIKE A BREAKTHROUGH FOR US.
WE JUST HIT GROUND RIGHT NOW, BUT WE STILL NEED MORE TIME TO ASSESS THE SITUATION.
BUT MR. MAYOR, UH, THE STEVE ANTLER SAID THAT HE COULD PROBABLY SEE PROPERTY.
UM, WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND YOU, BUT OUR NAME IS ON.
IT IS ON THE LEASE ON THIS LIST HERE.
IT'S WITH NINE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON HERE.
I CAN GIVE YOU THE DISCOVERY TOO, BUT I SEND EVERYTHING INTO MS.
SHE ASKED ME TO GIVE IT TO HER THAT THE DAY THAT I MET SEPTEMBER 1ST, I JUST GIVE HER ALL HER DISCOVERY THAT I'VE HAD THE LETTERS, UM, THE RECEIPTS, EVERYTHING WAS SENT IN.
UM, UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, THAT I'M CONCERNED AND I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER AVAILA IS CONCERNED AS IS COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WILL WORK WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR CINTAS, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR AND ANYONE ELSE WHO'S WORKING ON THIS.
DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? DO WE KNOW WHAT, UH, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY? UM, NO THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN DISCLOSING THAT RIGHT NOW.
UH, THE CITY, UH, WHEN WE CAME TO MR. MAYOR ADLER, THE LAST TIME IT WAS IN 2019, I CAN'T REPRESENT IT.
THE TRAILER PARK Y'ALL, Y'ALL RODE IT OUT.
DOG ADOPTED US AND Y'ALL, AND Y'ALL MADE IT FOR TRAILER PARK PURPOSES ONLY AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT'S ALL IT'S GOING TO BE TRAILER PARK PURPOSES ROLLED OUT FOR JUST THAT.
WE ALSO TRY TO GET A HISTORICAL MONUMENT FOR TRAILER PARK USE, CAUSE HE WAS THERE SINCE 1835, BUT ORIGINALLY STATED IN 1944.
SO IT WAS A HISTORICAL MONUMENT FOR CONGRESS.
SO I CAUGHT THE HISTORICAL MONUMENT TO GET OUR PLAQUE.
THEY SAID JUST BECAUSE THE PLAQUES NOT THERE DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT IN THE MOMENTUM.
SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE PLAQUE.
BUT THAT'S JUST, I MEAN, EVEN IF THEY, THE NEW OWNER CAME IN AND BOUGHT IN AND BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, IT WOULD JUST EXCHANGE HANDS TO ANOTHER TRAILER PARK.
LIKE I SAID, I GOT NINE, UM, 10 CURRENT, UH, PAYERS THAT ARE PAYING ON MONTH.
WE GOT SIX PROPERTIES THAT ARE TRYING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO MOVE OUT, BUT THE MANAGER HAS NEGLECTED TO MOVE THESE EVICT, THESE SIX PEOPLE THAT ARE TORMENTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH DRUG INFESTATION, UM, UH, DOING THE HOME RAIDS, HURTING PEOPLE.
WE WERE FIGHTING FOR OUR COMMUNITY BACK.
WE USED TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE OUR DOORS UNLOCK AT NIGHT, AND NOW WE CAN MO WE HAVE PEOPLE BOARDING THEIR WINDOWS AND LOCK INTO WINDOWS IS NOT NO WAY TO LIVE.
WHEN WE PAY OUR RENT EVERY DAY WE GET UP AND GO TO WORK AND WE FIGHT AS A COMMUNITY.
I JUST HAD A RECIPIENT WITH A LIVER TRANSPLANT, HER LIVER, UH, UH, DEFAULTED, UM, LIKE THREE WEEKS OLD.
WE TOOK HER BACK TO THE LIVER SITTING INSTITUTION DUE TO ALL THE STRESS BECAUSE THEY'RE THREATENING TO TURN THE LIGHT IN THE GAS AND THE WATER OFF IN NOVEMBER.
SHE, THESE MACHINES ARE CAUSING HER TO LIVE RIGHT NOW.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS.
I MEAN, THIS IS SOMEBODY'S LIFE THAT WE'RE PLAYING WITH.
I KNOW THAT WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU GUYS.
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LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER.IS THAT RIGHT? LET'S GO AHEAD.
AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO HAS JOINED US.
I MOVED HERE WHEN I WAS SEVEN WITH MY FAMILY AND I AM NOW I'M 35 YEARS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IN DISTRICT FOUR AND I'M IN MY STARTER HOME AND IT'S BECOME OUR RETIREMENT HOME.
UH, WE'RE IN A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD OF JUST A FEW HUNDRED HOMES.
UM, AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE OF COURSE.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS CHANCE TO SPEAK.
UM, THE CHANGE THAT I'VE SEEN THAT IS DISTRESSING, THAT BRINGS ME HERE TODAY IS SHORT TERM RENTALS.
AND THE PAST YEAR WE'VE HAD NINE SPRING UP.
UM, COUNCILMAN VAILA HAS HELPED US.
HE'S CONNECTED US WITH CODE CODE HAS HELPED.
UM, BUT FOR THE TWO OUT OF THE NINE THAT ARE NOW NO LONGER SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT ARE GOING BACK NOW TO EITHER BEING SOLD OR, UM, FOR RENT, UM, WHICH IS ALL THESE HOUSES WERE EITHER LONG-TERM RENTERS THAT WE KNEW OR HOMEOWNERS THAT WE KNEW IN OUR LITTLE COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE MORE SPRING UP AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY UNREGULATED SITUATION IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
AND WE HAVE A LOT TO LEARN FROM OTHER CITIES, SUCH AS SAN FRANCISCO AND DENVER AND WASHINGTON DC.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A RULING THAT YOUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS TO LOOK INTO.
NOW, THAT'S COME OUT OF NEW ORLEANS.
I WOULD IMPLORE YOU THOUGH TO DO WHAT YOU CAN, AS SOON AS YOU CAN, BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE CEDAR POLLEN COMING IN IT WINTER TIME, IT'S GIVEN US A HEADACHE AND IT IS JUST BLOWING UP.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE AGAIN, JUST TO ASK YOU TO LOOK INTO THIS, TO LOOK INTO PLATFORM ACCOUNTABILITY, WHEN, AND IF THAT IS POSSIBLE, UM, WHAT CODE IS DOING TO THE 12 TO 14,000 HOUSES THAT ARE UNREGULATED FULL TERM RENTALS ALL YEAR ROUND IN THE CITY IS, IS NOT ENOUGH.
EVEN IF THERE WERE 12, HOW COULD THEY KEEP UP WITH THAT MANY UNREGULATED RENTALS THAT ARE POPPING UP? THEY KNOW THAT, THAT THOSE INVESTORS KNOW THAT THEY CAN DO THIS FREELY AND THEY CAN TAKE OVER OUR COMMUNITY.
LIKE THEY'VE TAKEN OVER OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S A HOTEL SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUT.
UM, WE CAN'T KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
WE CAN'T CALL ENOUGH FOR THE PARTIES, THE TRASH, THE NOISE, ET CETERA.
UM, IT'S RUINING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND I KNOW THAT'S OF INTEREST TO YOU.
I KNOW, PARTICULARLY, UM, TO, UM, OUR COUNCILMAN WE'VE TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT IT AND HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL TALKING WITH HIM ABOUT IT.
AND, UM, I JUST IMPLORE YOU TO DO WHAT YOU CAN AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
OH, AND QUICK QUESTION, GO AHEAD.
AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP A BIT, I KNOW WE, WE MET, IT WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO NOW.
UH, THE LAST TIME WE MET WAS AT THE MEET AND GREET THAT YOU DID THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT.
UH, AND THE, IS IT STILL YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN, IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE RELATED TO KIND OF THE STADIUM, UH, UP THERE? OR HAS IT KIND OF MOVED BEYOND THAT? OH, I'M SURE THAT THEY'VE POPPED UP IN THE PAST YEAR.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEFORE THAT.
I'M SURE IT'S BECAUSE OF THE STADIUM.
UM, WE LOVE THE DOMAIN AND ALL THAT.
IT'S BRINGING US, UM, THE HOTELS AROUND OUR HOUSE, AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW FULL THEY ARE, BUT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BECOMING FULL OF THE TRANSIENT POPULATION THAT HOTELS ATTRACT AND WE NO LONGER HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE WE'VE HAD FOR 40 YEARS.
WE'RE GOING TO, I'M VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT A CODE HAS TO SAY AND ALSO GET MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE FEDERAL COURT RULING.
THAT'S UNDOUBTEDLY GOING TO AFFECT US TOO, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU.
AND PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT.
[1. Approve the minutes of the May 31, 2022 Housing and Planning Committee meeting.]
TO, UM, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER OF ALA TO APPROVE THE MINUTES A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, ALL IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
NOW WE'LL GO ONTO OUR BRIEFINGS.
[2. Briefing and discussion on short term rental regulations.]
AND OUR FIRST ONE IS A BRIEFING IN DISCUSSION ON SHORT TERM RENTALS.[00:15:03]
OKAY.COUNCIL MEMBERS WAS A ROY DIRECTOR FOR THE CALL DEPARTMENT.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WE PREPARE FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE.
SO IN THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, REGULATIONS.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR COMPLAINTS, SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR LICENSING AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING ENFORCING THE REGULATIONS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS VERY BASIC.
UH, JUST THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
WE FIND THAT AT A, AS A, AS A DWELLING UNIT THAT IS RENTED FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS, UH, IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THREE TYPES OF STRS IN AUSTIN AND IN ALL OF THEM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED TO GET A LICENSE BEFORE THEY ADVERTISE OR EVEN OPERATE ON STR NEXT SLIDE.
SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE THREE TYPES OF SDRS.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS WHAT WE CALL THE TYPE ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY PERMITTED IN ALL THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AND IT MUST BE OWNER OCCUPIED.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT, OR IT HAS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, A SECONDARY APARTMENT, UH, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE SAME LOT WOULD ACTUALLY QUALIFY TO BE A TYPE ONE SDR, UH, IN THESE, UH, IN THIS TYPE ONE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DENSITY CAPS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN ANY MUTATIONS, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE DEALING WITH THE IDEA THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE MOSTLY PRESENT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY RENT IN THE, UH, THE UNIT.
THE SECOND TYPE THAT WE HAVE IS A TYPE TWO.
THIS IS WHAT WE CALL THE NON OWNER OCCUPIED.
UH, THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY IS PERMITTED TO BE, UH, IN SOME COMMERCIAL, UH, COMMERCIAL AREAS, UH, NOT AT ALL IN RESIDENTIAL, ANY NEW ONES.
UH, WE STILL, WE STILL RENEW LICENSES THAT ARE BEING, THAT WERE ISSUED BEFORE THE ORDINANCE WAS IN EFFECT IN 2015.
AND AS LONG AS THEY RENEW ON TIME, WE RENEW THOSE, UH, TYPE TWO.
WE CALL GRANDFATHER, UH, IS THE ARTS IN RESIDENTIALS, UM, IN THESE, UH, IN THESE TYPE TWO AS THE RS, UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT, THAT WAS THERE IN THE PAST, UH, BUT BECAUSE OF, UH, LAWSUITS THAT THAT HAPPENED, UH, WE CAN NOT ENFORCE THE, UH, THE, THE, THE OCCUPANCY LIMITATIONS ANYMORE IN THESE TYPES.
UH, THESE ONE HAS A DENSITY CAP.
SO ON THE TYPE TWOS, WE HAVE A 3% MAXIMUM, UH, OR SINGLE FAMILY PER CENSUS TRACK.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A REGULATION FOR DISTANCE.
IT HAS TO BE A THOUSAND FEET, UH, FROM ANOTHER TYPE TWO STR WE CONTINUE TO ISSUE NEW SDRS, UH, TYPE TWOS ONLY ON THE COMMERCIAL SONIAN AREAS, UH, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY THE ORDINANCE.
SO THE TYPE THREE MULTI-FAMILY, AND THIS ONE HAS, YOU KNOW, COME UP TO THE PENSION RECENTLY, THIS ONE, THIS ONE APPLIES TO ALL THE SDRS IN MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, THESE ARE PERMITTED IN ALL THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, BUT WE HAVE A CAP, UH, ON THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE NON COMMERCIAL ZONING.
WE HAVE 3% OF THE UNITS AND ON THE COMMERCIAL SEWN IN 25% OF THE UNITS.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IT HAS 200 UNITS IN A COMMERCIAL SONG.
THEY CAN ACTUALLY CONVERT 50 OF THOSE INTO SDRS AND IT'S ALLOWED, AND WE HAVE HEARD SOME OF THAT, UH, GOING ON LATELY, UH, EVEN, UM, UNITS THAT ARE BEING, THAT WERE RENTED BEFORE LONG TERM, AND NOW THEY'RE BEING LEASED ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS.
UH, SO THAT'S THE LIMITATION ON THOSE TYPE THREE SDRS.
SO LET ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE, THE COMPLAINT, UH, SITUATION HERE AND THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO WE HANDLE, WE HANDLE THE COMPLAINTS AND SDR IS THE SAME WAY WE HANDLE ANY COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE ACTUALLY DO THAT THROUGH A 3, 1, 1, UH, WE CREATE THE SERVICE REQUEST.
WE CREATE THE CASE, UH, AND WITHIN 24 HOURS, WE ARE RESPONDING TO THESE COMPLAINTS, UH, EVEN SOMETIMES WITHIN HOURS OF THE COMPLAINT, BECAUSE WE HAVE A SPECIFIC TEAM FOR THE SDRS.
UH, THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO THE INSPECTOR.
UH, ONE DAY ONCE THE 3, 1, 1 COMPLAINT IS CLOSE, THE CASE IS WORTH TO OUR SYSTEM.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU IN THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE SEVEN.
WE ACTUALLY WENT BACK TO, UH, JANUARY, 2019 TO LOOK AT THE TIMING AND THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT WE ACTUALLY GET THE MOST COMPLAINTS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, UH, 85% OF THE COMPLAINTS ARE RECEIVED DURING STAFF
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HOURS.SO THAT MEANS FROM SEVEN O'CLOCK TO 11:00 PM, WE HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH ACTIVITY ON SUNDAYS.
WE DID A PILOT PROGRAM ONE TIME ON SUNDAYS, BUT WE DIDN'T GET MANY RESULTS ON THAT.
WE DO, UM, UTILIZE A SPECIAL STAFF SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, ON SUNDAYS.
BUT AT THIS TIME WE WORK UNTIL 11 O'CLOCK, ESPECIALLY, UH, FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS.
AND THAT IS THE, UH, THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THAT WE ACTUALLY GET THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE WEEK ON THE TIMING, SLIDE EIGHT IN THIS ONE, BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS A MAP OF THE COMPLAINT, HOW IT TAKES, UH, PLACE.
ONCE WE GET THE CASE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO A DUE PROCESS, WE HAVE TO CREATE THE CASE.
WE HAVE TO, UH, IDENTIFY THE VIOLATION.
UH, IF IT IS OBSERVED, WE ACTUALLY ISSUE AN NOV.
UH, WE CONDUCT A FOLLOW UP, WE HAVE CITATIONS.
IF WE GET AN ABLATION DOES AND BEING RESOLVED, WE TAKE IT TO A, I MEAN, HEARING CASE OR TWO, THREE TIMES.
AND IF IT CONTINUES, WE ACTUALLY MOVE IT UP TO A MUNICIPAL COURT AND LAY LAW.
AND LATER, YOU KNOW, FURTHER THAN THAT, WE WORK WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO, UH, PREPARE THE CASE FOR THIS RECORD.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO DO IN THE, IN THE PROGRAM IS, UH, DEALING WHERE THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE A HISTORY OF VIOLATIONS.
AND IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A LEASE OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
WE ACTUALLY DO A PREEMPTIVE EDUCATION ON THOSE.
WE TRY TO REACH OUT, WE TRY TO GET THERE, UH, AND ACTUALLY ATTEMPT TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE TENANTS DURING THE DAY TO MAKE, TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN AUSTIN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE AND PARTY HOUSES AND SO ON.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO IN THE, IN A DAILY BASIS.
ONE THING THAT I WILL, UH, WILL MENTION, UH, UH, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA IS THAT ONLY ABOUT 13% OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET OUR OWN LICENSED PROPERTIES.
SO MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAVE IS NON-LICENSED AS THE RS.
UH, SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S AN INTERESTING FACT, NEXT SLIDE.
SO YES, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE.
THIS MARKET HAS EXPLODED AS WE HAVE SEEN.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, UH, THE SAME ISSUE IN MANY, MANY OTHER CITIES.
UM, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SAN FRANCISCO, DENVER LOOKING AT THEIR, UH, REGULATIONS, SEE HOW WE CAN ENHANCE OURS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT ROUGHLY ABOUT 2000 LICENSES, 1975 EXCHANGED DAY-TO-DAY PRIOR TO, UH, PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, WE WERE CLOSED OR OVER 3000.
SO SOMEHOW THESE HAS COME DOWN, UH, PEOPLE ARE NOT COMING BACK TO RENEW THE LICENSE OR ISSUE NEW LICENSES, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
AND WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE DATA THAT IS AVAILABLE, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, IDENTIFYING THE RENTAL MARKET FROM THE MAJOR, UM, UH, PLATFORMS, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 9,000 TO 11,000, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AT ANY GIVEN TIME, IT ACTUALLY GOES UP WHEN WE HAVE A SPECIAL EVENTS.
UH, THIS MORNING I CHECKED, IT WAS 9,700 THAT IS ADVERTISED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A CHALLENGE THERE TO DEAL WITH.
UM, ONE THING THAT I WILL MENTION IS THAT ONLY THE HOSTING PLATFORMS OUT THERE THROUGH DATA, I MEAN, THAT WAS SOMEBODY, SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT CORPORATION, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS ONE, WE ACTUALLY BROKE IT DOWN BY DISTRICT AND YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE DATA THERE.
UM, SO ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE LICENSES ARE TYPE ONE AT T SDRS, WHICH IS THE OWNER OCCUPY, UH, OF THOSE WE HAD ABOUT 205 THAT ARE SECONDARY APARTMENTS, UH, ADU OR, UH, UH, GARAGE APARTMENTS, ET CETERA.
UH, 6% OF THE, UH, ALL THE LICENSE ARE TIED TO STRS, UH, WITH AMBASZ MAJORITY OF THOSE BEING GRANDFATHER, BECAUSE THERE WERE ALREADY ISSUE, UH, IN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING, UH, 27% ARE TYPE THREE SDRS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRICTS NINE, THREE, AND FIVE, AND ONE CONTAINED 75% OF THE, OF THE LICENSES, THE RMS THINGS.
SO YOU CAN SEE, IT'S VERY TELLING THE ACTIVITY, UH, ON WHAT TYPE OF STRS ARE ACTUALLY ISSUE FOR THIS POLISH DISTRICT.
SO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE, UH, ENFORCEMENT, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO WE, IN ORDER FOR US TO ACTUALLY TO ACTUALLY PROVE THAT SOMEONE IS OPERATING WITH OUR LICENSE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT OUR INSPECTORS MAKE CONTACT WITH THE TENANTS.
THEY HAVE TO REALLY ADMIT THAT THEY ACTUALLY BOOK IN THE STR FOR WHAT A SHORT TERM PERIOD.
SO WE NEED TO GET THAT KIND OF CONFESSION KIND
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OF WAY FROM THE TENANT, UH, OFTEN IS REALLY HARD TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM.UH, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST MOVING THROUGH AUSTIN, STAYING FOR A FEW DAYS, FOR AN EVENT.
THEY DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THE DOOR.
OF COURSE, THEY, THEY MAY FEEL UNSAFE.
THEY EITHER KNOW HOME, AND WE HAVE SEEN CASES WHERE THE, UH, THE LANDLORD EVEN GIVE THEM A SCRIPT, UH, TO SAY THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY THERE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, SO WE CAN, UH, JUSTIFY EH, CITATION OR, UH, OR ORDER VIOLATION ADVERTISING IS, UH, IS A CHALLENGE AS WELL.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, THIS IS THE ONLY AREA THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY USE PRIME APHASIA EVIDENCE TO ISSUE AN NOV.
THE CHALLENGE HERE IS BEING CONNECTING THE AD TO THE PROPERTY.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PLATFORM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ADVERTISEMENT, WE CANNOT IDENTIFY THE SAC LOCATION.
THEY JUST PROVIDE A GENERAL AREA.
THEY HAVE GOING AWAY FROM, UH, PUTTING PHOTOS OF THE, UH, OR THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
ANYTHING THAT IDENTIFIES AN ADDRESS.
SO WE HAVE TO BECOME LIKE A, KIND OF A DETECTIVE TRYING TO CONNECT THE HOUSE, LOOKING AT PHOTOS, LOOKING AT GOOGLE EARTH, TRYING TO FIND THAT LOCATION SO WE CAN CONNECT THAT ADVERTISEMENT TO THE HOUSE.
ONCE WE DO THAT, WE CAN IDENTIFY VIOLATION, BUT AGAIN, THE MOMENT THEY TAKE THAT ADVERTISEMENT DOWN AND THEY CHANGE THE LINK, THEN WE LOST THAT, UH, NOISE, NOISE COMPLAINTS, ILLINOIS, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE HAVE, AND WE HAVE HEARD, YOU KNOW, UM, THE ISSUE ABOUT LATE NIGHT, UH, COMPLAINTS.
I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OUR INSPECTORS ARE NOT PEACE OFFICERS.
MOST OF THE SEIZURES THAT WE SEE LATE AT NIGHT ARE CONSIDERED TO BE THE SOLID CONDUCT AND THEY ARE CHALLENGING FOR, FOR THE CODE INSPECTORS.
WE HAD NO AUTHORITY OR THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT IS ACTUALLY CREATING THE NOISE, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE DESCENDING A WAY TO TAKE ALL OF OUR ACTIONS AGAINST THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE ON IT ACTUALLY PUTS THE INSPECTOR AND SAY IN A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION, LATE AT NIGHT, UH, DARK, UH, THESE PEOPLE ARE MAYBE COMING OUT FROM, FROM A CLUB AND BEING, UH, ALCOHOL AND SO ON.
SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.
AND THE, THE NEXT CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE, AND AS YOU CAN HIT, AS WE CAN, AS YOU HAVE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, IS, UH, THE PLATFORMS, UH, AT THIS POINT, ALL THE ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKING ARE AGAINST THE PROPERTY OWNER, NOT THE HOSTING PLATFORMS, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY COOPERATION FROM THEM.
SO THEY BASICALLY HOLD THE DATA.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ADVERTISEMENT, YOU CAN NOT FIND THE ADDRESS.
YOU CAN NOT FIND THE LOCATION.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
WE ARE LOOKING AT, WE WERE TALKING TO, UH, SAN FRANCISCO, UH, DENVER, UM, SEEING HOW THEY, HOW THEY ACTUALLY DID IT ON THE, ON THEIR ORDINANCE TO SEE HOW THAT COULD ACTUALLY WORK OUT FOR US, UH, WITHOUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT AND SEE WHAT IS, WHAT IS, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY OF THING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, FRESH LINK I'M BREE FRANCO HERE, AND A HASSAN STAFF ONLINE THAT CAN ACTUALLY ACTUALLY ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, LET'S SEE, UH, WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BAYLA.
UM, THE, THE, I SAW THAT THERE WAS A TYPE ONE, A AND TYPE ONE SECONDARY.
WHAT, HOW ARE THOSE DIFFERENT FROM A RAIDER TYPE ONE? UH, LISA, YOU CAN SEE ALYSSA HERE.
YEAH, MY, MY SUPERVISOR, YES, GO AHEAD.
A TYPE ONE A IS A HOPE, A ROOM WITHIN THE HOME WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER LIVES A TYPE ONE, SECONDARY IS A SEPARATE SECONDARY DWELLING UNIT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE OWNER-OCCUPIED FROM.
AND, BUT THOSE ARE ALL REGULATED THE SAME AS TYPE ONES.
SHE CONSIDERED TYPE ONES BECAUSE THERE'S AN OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT FOR EACH OF THOSE LICENSE TYPES.
SO IT'S BASICALLY DISTINCTION THAT WE ACTUALLY MET IN THE DEPARTMENT TO SEPARATE THE WHOLE HOUSE AS A TYPE ONE, A ROOM BETWEEN THE, IN THE HOUSE OR THE SECONDARY APARTMENT, UH, IN THE PROPERTY.
SO TYPE ONE WOULD BE YOUR KIND OF STANDARD TYPE ONE WOULD BE A HOMEOWNER RENTING OUT THE ENTIRE HOME THAT THEY ALL THAT IS CORRECT.
THEY CAN RENT A BEDROOM WITHIN THE HOUSE AS LONG AS THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A BATHROOM AND THEY CAN RENT THE SECONDARY APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE PROPERTY.
SO THESE ARE OWNER RELATED TO OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES, AND THEN TYPE ONE SECONDARY THEN WOULD BE SOME KIND OF LIKE AN ADU ON THE PROPERTY OR GARAGE APARTMENT WITH ITS OWN ENTRANCE AND EXIT.
UH, AND THEN WHERE ARE THE STR COMPLAINTS COMING FROM? I SAW THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF LICENSES BY DISTRICT, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IS THERE KIND OF A SPOT OR SPOTS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF, UH,
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OF COMPLAINTS ARE COMING FROM, UM, PRETTY MUCH, UH, W WE CAN SEE, WE CAN CORRELATE THAT TO THE LICENSING IS SO YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHER NUMBER IN DISTRICT NINE, THIS DECREASE.UH, IT'S USUALLY THE, THE AREAS WHERE WE ACTUALLY GET MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS.
AND THEN YOU HAD, SO THE WORD 3000 LICENSES, BUT WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 2000 ACTIVE, UH, STR LICENSES IN AUSTIN.
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC WERE ACTUALLY 3000 BLAHS, UH, WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, THE MARKET TOOK A BIG HIT.
WE ACTUALLY LOST REVENUE ON THE LICENSING SIDE.
UM, WE DID A MORATORIUM, YOU KNOW, NOT A TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY, UH, UH, UH, KIND OF HOLDING THE, THE, THE LICENSES FOR LONGER BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL NOT RENEW THE LICENSES.
UH, SO WE LOST THAT REVENUE THERE.
THEN AFTER THE PANDEMIC, NOW IT'S ACTUALLY PICKING UP AGAIN, BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT REVENUE BACK OR THE LICENSING BACK FOR RENEWABLES AND NEW LICENSES THAT ARE, THAT ARE USED TO BE THERE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO.
I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL PICK UP ON THAT LAST ONE.
UM, I NEED TO DIG INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY DURING THE BUDGET TO TALK ABOUT THE COSTS OF THE PROGRAM.
AND AS I, AS I UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER THAT I GOT BACK TO BUDGET QUESTION 1 26, IT DOESN'T SOUND, IT DOESN'T LOOK AS IF THE, THE, ANY REVENUE WE TAKE IN EVEN COMES CLOSE TO COVERING THE COSTS OF OPERATING THE PROGRAM.
SO I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU LOST REVENUE WHEN THE APPLICATIONS WEREN'T COMING UP, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME, THE CLEAN COMMUNITY FEE IS LARGELY COVERING THE COSTS OF OPERATING THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT ANY FEES THAT WE TAKE IN FROM, FROM SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS ARE JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET.
SO IS THAT, IS THAT AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT? YES.
LET ME GIVE YOU A HIGHLIGHT ON THAT AND LET TRICIA GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION THE WAY, THE WAY THE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED, THE LICENSING OF THIS, THE, OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS COVER THE COST OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE CLEAN COMMUNITY FEE COVER THE COST OF THE ENFORCEMENT.
SO I'LL LET, UH, TRISH, UM, TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE HAS DEALT WITH THEM BEFORE, UH, TRISH LINK WITH THE LOSS LAW DEPARTMENT.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE OPERATION OF THE PROGRAM IS KIND OF IT'S TWO COMPONENTS.
ONE IS THE ACTUAL LICENSING PART OF THE PROGRAM, AND THEY HAVE LICENSE FEES ARE FEES THAT ARE ATTACHED PROCESSING, THOSE LICENSE APPLICATIONS.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF OPERATING A REGULATORY PROGRAM, AND WE HANDLE THAT THROUGH THE CLEAN COMMUNITY FEE, BECAUSE CODE, YOU KNOW, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY FALLS, UH, THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES FALL UNDER THE CLEAN COMMUNITY FEE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE USE THOSE FUNDS FOR.
UM, SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THAT I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO ASK, UM, TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITH A FULL COUNCIL, AND THAT'S A PIECE OF IT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
UH, AGAIN, I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DIG INTO THE ANSWER THAT YOU GAVE ME BACK, WHICH I APPRECIATED THE ANSWER THAT YOU GAVE ME BACK TO BUDGET QUESTION 1 26, BUT I THINK THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK REALLY CAREFULLY.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVEN'T DONE A COST OF SERVICE IN A LONG TIME.
AND, AND THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EVEN REALLY SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING THE LICENSING PORTION WITH THE FEES THAT ARE ASSESSED.
AND CERTAINLY IT GENERATES A LOT OF ENFORCEMENT ACTION THAT ARE NOT BEING COVERED BY THE COSTS OF THE FEES.
SO JUST REMEMBER THAT IN AS A REQUEST, THAT'S A MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER.
TOVA, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COURT REQUEST ALREADY IN, AND WE'LL ADD YOUR, ADD YOURS TO IT FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO THAT'S SUPER, I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT I'LL, I'LL, UM, I'LL TALK DIRECTLY TO THE, TO THE LAW DEPARTMENT.
THANKS FOR MAKING THAT REQUEST.
I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT, UM, PIECE OF IT AND THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME, UH, DIRECTOR RUG THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THE HOURS OF COMPLAINTS THAT COMPLAINTS ARE COMING IN, BUT A LOT OF THAT TIME PERIOD THAT YOU COVERED FELL DURING THE PANDEMIC WHERE, WHERE WE KNOW BARS, UM, AND OTHER EVENING ESTABLISHMENTS WERE CLOSED.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS I LOOKED AND I'VE ASKED A FEW TIMES FOR THE HOURS AND WAS REALLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT, I THINK THAT I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR THE EXACT NUMBERS.
I THINK I ASKED FOR THIS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS AS WELL.
IT LOOKED, IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE A LOT OF YOUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL INSPECTORS ARE WORKING, YOU KNOW, REGULAR HOURS DURING THE WORK WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, RATHER THAN ON THE WEEKENDS WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUSINESS.
AND I APPRECIATE THE STATS THAT YOU PROVIDED.
THAT'S PRETTY INTERESTING, BUT AGAIN, SOME OF A GOOD
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PORTION OF THAT FELL DURING THE PANDEMIC.AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH US AND, AND LOOK AT SOME PERIODS THAT WERE REALLY OUTSIDE THE PANDEMIC AND SEE IF THAT STILL HOLDS TRUE, BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT MOST OF OUR I'M SURPRISED BY THAT 85% FIGURE.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING THE DATA TO SHOW THAT I DO WONDER WHETHER THAT CHANGES THOUGH, WHEN WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE BARS ARE OPEN AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THEM.
UH, THE DATA COVERS ALL THE WAY TO, UH, SEPTEMBER OF 2022.
SO IT COVERS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE PANDEMIC.
THEY DO MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, WE ACTUALLY WORKING LATE, UH, FRIDAY INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, WE ACTUALLY WORK UNTIL 11:00 PM.
UH, WE, WE DID SOME PILOT PROGRAMS IN THE PAST ON SOME DAYS WITH NO GOOD RESULTS.
SO WE ACTUALLY DO THAT ON THE ESPECIALLY BANDS LIKE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST ACL THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BUSY AND WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY, UH, BE ABLE TO CONTACT SOMEBODY THERE, BUT THAT'S THE HOURS THAT WE ACTUALLY WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
COULD YOU, DO YOU HAPPEN TO RECALL WHERE YOU PROVIDED ME WITH THAT INFORMATION? WAS IT IN ONE OF THE BUDGET QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I THINK I HAD ACTUALLY ASKED FOR THE DETAILED ANALYSIS OF KIND OF, HOW MANY, HOW MANY OF YOUR INSPECTORS WORK JUST MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY? AND I THINK IT WAS THE BULK OF THEM THAT MOST OF YOUR INSPECTORS ARE NOT WORKING EVENING HOURS.
AND JUST REMEMBER THAT STL IS JUST ONE PROGRAM IN THE DEPARTMENT.
SO WE HAVE INSPECTORS THAT ACTUALLY WORK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
SO WE HAVE IT, IT WAS ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROGRAM.
BUT DO YOU HAPPEN TO RECALL WHERE THAT INFORMATION WHERE YOU PROVIDED THE COUNTY? IT WAS ONE OF THE, IT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU PROVIDED IN THE CBQ.
SO I KNOW IT WAS RESPONDED TO, BUT THE LIST IS THERE ON THE INSPECTORS THAT ACTUALLY WORK.
UH, THE LATER HOURS, WE HAVE IT ROTATE IRRITATING SCHEDULE.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL SIX COMING OUT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT WE DO HAVE A STAFF, UH, ON THOSE HOURS, UM, THURSDAY, FRIDAY ON SATURDAY.
AND JUST, YOU KNOW, I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN MULTIPLE, UM, MULTIPLE CONSTITUENT CONCERNS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE NOISE CHALLENGES AND SOME OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES WITH THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT ARE MORE PARTY HOUSES ARE HAPPENING ON WEEKEND HOURS AFTER BARS CLOSE, WHEN WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY INSPECTORS, UM, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY INSPECTORS WORKING BECAUSE THEY STOP AT 11 ON THOSE WEEKEND NIGHTS.
AND IT IS CERTAINLY AN ISSUE AS YOU SEE, JUST BY THE NUMBERS.
IT'S CERTAINLY AN ISSUE FOR DISTRICT NINE AND FOR DISTRICT THREE, WHERE YOU HAVE CENTRAL CENTRAL AUSTIN.
UM, AND LET ME JUST HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M ALSO SEEING INCREASINGLY IN OUR, IN DISTRICT NINE ARE THOSE MULTI-FAMILY THOSE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE BEING CONVERTED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
AND IN SOME CASES ARE BEING BUILT INSTEAD OF BUILDING FOR RENTAL OR BUILDING FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
SO THAT TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT SEEMED, SEEMED LIKE A PRETTY GOOD BALANCE EARLY ON, BUT I, I THINK WE ALL SEE THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE HOUSING UNITS AND PROBABLY LESS NEED FOR HOTEL UNITS IF YOU HAD TO PUT THEM IN BALANCE.
AND SO I HOPE AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN KIND OF REVISIT THAT NUMBER, UM, DIRECTOR, UM, HILTON, OCTOBER THAT YOU TOUCHED ON THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS TOPO, WE MIGHT WANT TO IN A FEW MINUTES COULD SEE IF OTHERS HAVE QUESTIONS, SIR, GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR NEXT QUESTION.
THIS IS JUST THAT, UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION, BUT GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU.
SO I'LL MAKE THIS, MY LAST ONE.
I THOUGHT THAT OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRED, REQUIRED THAT ADVERTISING ON THE PLATFORM INCLUDE A LICENSE NUMBER.
IS THAT ACCURATE? AND IF SO, HOW COULD WE HAVE SO MANY THOUSANDS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS ADVERTISING WITHOUT, WITHOUT BEING REGISTERED? THERE IS A STATEMENT ON THE ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY REQUIRES A LICENSE TO BE LISTED, BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT COOPERATION FROM THE PLASTIC, FROM THE HOSTING PLATFORMS, THEY ACTUALLY ADVERTISE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, WE ADVERTISE.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE GO OUT AFTER THE ADVERTISEMENT, LOOKING AT THE ADVERTISEMENT, TRYING TO CON TRYING TO CONNECT THAT ADVERTISEMENT TO THE HOUSE, WHICH IS A CHALLENGE ONCE WE CAN DO THAT, WE CAN ACTUALLY ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE.
THE CHALLENGE NOW IS ACTUALLY CONNECTING THAT ADVERTISEMENT TO THE STR THANKS.
I THOUGHT WE WERE WORKING WITH A THIRD PARTY TO DO THAT WORK FOR US AND HAD SOME SOFTWARE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MAYBE A QUESTION FOR LATER OR OUTSIDE OF THIS VENUE, BUT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.
I HAVE SOME LEGAL RELATED QUESTIONS THAT I'LL WAIT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION RELATED TO THAT AND OTHERS.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, YOU HAD A QUESTION.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY NOTES.
UM, THIS WAS A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, A PROPERTY IN SOUTHEAST TOD THAT DECIDED NOT TO RENEW LEASES WITH A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TENANTS IN ORDER TO CONVERT 25% OF THEIR UNITS INTO TYPE THREE STRS.
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SINCE THE TOD IS A SPECIAL DISTRICT AND NOT A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.CAN THIS BE PERMITTED? THAT MIGHT BE A LEGAL QUESTION FOR TRISH LINK.
SHE'S COMING UP NOW, JOSH LINK WITH A LOT DEPARTMENT, THE CITY CODE SAYS THAT IF IT'S A NON-COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, THEN THE LIMITATION IS 3% AND TOD IS YOUR CORRECT, OUR SPECIAL PURPOSE BASED DISTRICTS.
SO THEY WOULD NOT BE A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
SO THERE'LL BE SUBJECT TO THE 3%, NOT THE 25%.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON.
WELL, AND TO BE SURE YOU, YOU DID SAY WE'RE DEFINITELY HAVING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE SIDE OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I THINK IT IS, BUT, UH, PARDON? YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT SOON.
SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A DATE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'LL GET THAT OUT TO EVERYONE, SO, OKAY.
WE HAVE ABOUT TWO OR THREE MORE MINUTES FOR THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME JOIN THE HOUSING COMMITTEE TODAY.
UH, COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAS CERTAINLY BEEN ON MY MIND AND LOOKING AT THIS POLICY, UM, WANTING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN DO, UH, NOT ONLY FROM AN ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THINGS, BUT ALSO TO GET TO YOUR QUESTION COMES FROM HARBOR MADISON.
WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENSURE THAT OUR HOUSING IS NOT GETTING BOUGHT UP AND THEN CONVERTED INTO STRS, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE KNOW THAT, UM, WE ARE IN A HOUSING CRISIS RIGHT NOW, AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT OUR HOUSING SUPPLY IS KEPT AVAILABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY WHO NEEDS IT.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW COUNCIL AT ONE POINT HAD CONSIDERED LOOKING AT, UM, HOW WE WORK WITH DIFFERENT STR OPERATORS IN, UH, IN LICENSING.
AND, UM, AND, AND ESSENTIALLY LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE COLLECTING OUR HOTEL TAX DOLLARS HERE LOCALLY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE LICENSING NUMBERS OF STRS OPERATING IN THE CITY HAS GONE DOWN.
WE KNOW THAT THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE STATE AND EVERY SINGLE DAY, THE CITY IS LOSING OUT ON THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT COULD GO TO SUPPORT CULTURAL ARTS, OUR MUSIC, COMMUNITY, AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS.
AND SO I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT THAT OUR COUNCIL REVISITS OUR, UH, STR CONVERSATION TO HAVE, UM, UH, TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON HOW WE CAN, UH, WORK WITH THE OPERATORS AND WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE, UM, THAT EVERYONE, UM, MUTUALLY BENEFITS FROM.
WELL, ACTUALLY I WAS, I KNOW THAT THAT, UH, MS. FRANK WAS HERE AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS STATEWIDE IS FAST, OR ALSO IF YOU, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A TOPIC, UH, COMING UP FOR THIS NEXT SESSION, UM, I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE BRIEF BRONCO WITH INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS.
IF WE CAN PULL UP MY POWERPOINT REAL QUICKLY AND I'M GOING TO FLY THROUGH THIS FOR YOU.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER STR FIGHT ON OUR HANDS AT THE LEGISLATURE.
THIS SESSION, NEXT SIDE, PLEASE.
UH, OUR FIRST STR FIGHT WITH, UH, AT THE LEGISLATURE STARTED IN WAITING FOR THE NEXT SLIDE.
2017 WAS THE FIRST, UH, BILL THAT WAS FILED THAT WOULD HAVE PREEMPTED CITIES FROM REGULATING STRS AT ALL.
THAT BILL WAS FILED BY CHAIRMAN KELLY HANCOCK, WHO WAS CHAIR OF THE SENATE BUSINESS AND COMMERCE COMMITTEE AT THE TIME IT'S EXTREMELY POWERFUL COMMITTEE IN THE SENATE.
UM, HE WAS ABLE TO GET IT OUT OF THE SENATE AND THEN IT WAS HELD UP IN THE HOUSE.
UH, THE HOUSE BILL WAS FILED BY REPRESENTATIVE PARKER WHO WAS HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AT THE TIME.
UM, ALL SO FAR, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STOP THE LEGISLATION AT THE STATE LEVEL OF PREEMPTION, BUT IT DOES, IT IS NOT WITHOUT A LOT OF EFFORT AND IT IS NOT JUST MY OFFICE AND OUR LOBBY TEAM, BUT ALL THE HOMEOWNERS LIKE THOSE THAT YOU HEARD TODAY COMING FORWARD AND TELLING THEIR STORIES TO THESE MEMBERS ABOUT THE INTERFERENCE WITH THEIR OWN USE OF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY, HOW THEY'RE SCARED TO HAVE THEIR CHILDREN PLAY IN THEIR YARDS WITH THESE PARTIES GOING ON WITH LEWD BEHAVIOR HAPPENING RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND HOW DISRUPTIVE IT IS IN THEIR, UH, JUST USE OF THEIR HOMES.
AND IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE DESIGNED TO HAVE HOMESCHOOLS SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES.
UM, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF BUSINESS ACTIVITY THAT IS ALLOWED IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WAS ZONING.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO STOP THAT BILL IN 2017.
THEY CAME BACK IN 2019 THIS TIME WITH THE CHAIR OF, UM, URBAN AFFAIRS FILING THE BILL THAT'S ANGIE CHIN BUTTON.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO STOP THE BILL THERE AND HOUSE URBAN AFFAIRS.
AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, A SIGNIFICANT
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AMOUNT OF EFFORT THIS TIME THOUGH, WE HAD OTHER, UH, ALLIES, THESE ARE SPREADING EVERYWHERE.IT'S ARLINGTON, GRAPEVINE, CORPUS, GALVESTON, AMARILLO AREAS IN SAN ANTONIO, FORT WORTH ANYWHERE THERE'S ANY KIND OF PARTY ACTIVITY.
AND, AND, AND IT'S HARD BECAUSE THE IT'S THE WORST OFFENDERS.
IT'S THESE PARTY HOMES IT'S BEING USED FOR LATE NIGHT PARTIES TILL 2:00 AM.
THAT'S HAD A PARTY, HOPEFULLY IT'S ONE TIME A YEAR AT A, FOR A GRADUATION.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY WEEKEND, BUT IT'S HAPPENING EVERY WEEKEND IN THESE HOME, UM, IN THESE HOMES AND IN THESE CITIES.
AND SO THAT EFFORT HAS HELPED.
W UH, LAST SESSION, UM, WE JOINED IN 19.
I'M SORRY, IT WASN'T LAST SESSION.
UM, WE STARTED TO SEE THIS CHANGED SHIFTS AS SENATOR POWELL WAS AS A DEMOCRAT THAT WAS CAME OUT OF THE DALLAS AREA.
SHE ACTUALLY FILED A BILL THAT SHE WANTED TO ASSIST CITIES WITH, UM, THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.
SHE'S BEEN REDISTRICT OUT OF HER, UH, DISTRICT.
LAST SESSION WAS THE COVID SESSION.
AND SO, BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WE SAW A BILL FILED BY REPRESENTATIVE SHAHEEN, WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE TEXAS FREEDOM CAUCUS THAT ACTUALLY WAS TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING LIKE IT WOULD ALLOW FOR SOME ENFORCEMENT ON THE PLATFORM.
DIDN'T REALLY PROVIDE AS MUCH ENFORCEMENT AS WE'D LIKE TO SEE FROM THE PLATFORM.
UM, BUT HE, UH, LOU, WE AT LEAST SAW A BILL FILED IN THAT DIRECTION.
REPRESENTATIVE BUCKLEY, REFILED, SOME OF THE BUTTON BILLS FROM TWO SESSIONS AGO, AND THEN QUICKLY REALIZED HER MISTAKE AND SAID SHE HAD NO INTENT TO MOVING THOSE.
SHE THOUGHT THEY SAID SOMETHING ELSE, AND SHE WASN'T GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE BILLS AT ALL.
BUT, UH, FOR THIS COMING SESSION, I'VE ALREADY HEARD THEY ARE, THEY ARE ORGANIZING THEIR LOBBYING EFFORTS, THEY'RE RAISING MONEY, THEY PLAN TO COME BACK.
UM, AND SO WE DO PLAN TO HAVE THEM ON THE TABLE.
THEIR GOAL HAS BEEN ALWAYS TO PREEMPT CITIES FROM BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE ANY KIND OF CODE VIOLATION OUTSIDE OF BASIC HEALTH AND SAFETY IS WHAT THEY CALL IT.
THAT'S BASICALLY BUILDING STANDARDS.
THEY WANT THEM TO BE ALLOWED ANYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT CITIES CAN'T LIMIT WHERE THEY ARE.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO IS HAVE THE STATE BE THE LICENSING AGENT FOR THESE, UM, SERVICES.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE ARE A LITTLE TIGHT ON TIME, BUT, UM, ANY, ANY QUESTION OR TWO FOR, UM, ANY PROCESS AND ANY PROSPECT FOR SOME KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE STATEWIDE REGULATION OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A COMPREHENSIVE STATEWIDE STATUTE THAT WOULD, I THINK WHAT'S DIFFICULT ON THIS ISSUE IS THAT THE WAY WE ENFORCEMENT IS ALWAYS HARD, NO MATTER WHAT, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE AS TALKING ABOUT THAT LOCALLY, BECAUSE OF, IF WE COULD GET THE STATE TO HELP WITH ENFORCEMENT, WITH PLATFORM ACCOUNTABILITY, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE THE PLATFORMS ARE ONLY ENFORCING TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY THINK IT'S ENFORCEMENT.
THEY HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO US FOR INSTANCE, TO ASK WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN ENFORCEMENT.
UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT I THINK PRESERVING THE RIGHT OF ZONING TO SAY WHERE THESE BELONG IN YOUR, IN THE CITIES AND EACH CITY WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT PLACE WHERE THEY ARE BEST SUITED AND NOT SUITED IN THEIR CITIES IS AN ESSENTIAL RIGHT.
THAT CITIES SHOULD FIGHT TO MAINTAIN, UM, ZONING BEING WHEN THE MOST ESSENTIAL RIGHTS OF LOCAL ENTITIES.
UM, AND THEN BEYOND THAT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE STATE MAYBE WITH SOME PLATFORM ENFORCEMENT, BUT AS WE'VE SEEN WITH STATE REGULATION THERE, THIS, THE STATE OF TEXAS REGULATION IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE PRETTY LIGHT.
AND IT'S, YOU'RE IN A LOSE THE ABILITY FOR HOMEOWNERS, WHO ARE THEY GOING TO TALK TO WHEN THINGS GO WRONG? WHO ARE THEY GOING TO GO TO WHEN THINGS GO WRONG? AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE THAT IF THE STATE TAKES OVER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MUCH MORE CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE ABOUT THIS.
BRI OH, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON.
WE REALLY ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO GET THE TENANT LOCATIONS, BUT, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY ONE QUESTION YOU WANT TO ASK? YEAH.
UM, AND GIVEN THAT I RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE INTERIM.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF A HOMEOWNER CONTACTS OUR OFFICE BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE THAT I POSED BEFORE, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT REPORTING? HOW DO COUNCIL OFFICES WHO RECEIVE, UH, THAT KIND OF REPORT, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR US TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE? AND THIS CAN COME THAT RESPONSE BECAUSE OF OUR LIMITED TIME HERE.
I'M HAPPY TO RECEIVE THAT RESPONSE IN AN EMAIL, UM, TO, UH, OBVIOUSLY LET'S DO THAT.
LET'S HAVE A RESPONSE IN AN EMAIL.
UM, THIS IS, AS WE ALL HAVE SAID, THIS IS AN AREA THAT
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WE DEFINITELY NEED TO, UM, TO TAKE SOME ACTION.[3. Briefing and discussion on Tenant Relocation.]
ON TO OUR NEXT BRIEFING.IT'S A BRIEFING IN DISCUSSION ON TENANT RELOCATION.
WELL, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
UM, THIS HAS NEVER TD JACKMAN WITH, UH, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, JUST HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ON THE TENANT RELOCATION PROGRAM.
I SERVE AS A COMMUNITY DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, WITHIN THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE ALSO WITH SUSAN WALK-INS, WHO IS OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
UH, SHE'LL ALSO SERVE AS A PROGRAM LEAD FOR THIS PROGRAM.
SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL BOTH BE PRESENTING TODAY.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK, UM, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT WE WERE PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED TO LAUNCH THIS PROGRAM IN 2019.
A SOLICITATION DID GO OUT, UH, $500,000 OF HOUSING TRUST FUND DOLLARS HAD BEEN ALLOCATED FOR A TENANT RELOCATION PROGRAM.
HOWEVER, THAT WAS POSTPONED AS A RESULT OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
AND THOSE FUNDS WERE USED TO LAUNCH OUR INITIAL RENT PROGRAM.
AND, UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THIS PAUL'S HAS BEEN, BUT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROGRAM.
AND, UH, SO WE'LL PROVIDE YOU TODAY WITH UPDATES.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE WE'LL PROVIDE SUSAN AND I WILL PROVIDE, UH, A REVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE IN, UH, THE PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT, THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION AND NEXT STEPS.
UM, SO THE ORDINANCE WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2016 AND, UH, WITH THAT, IT WAS DESIGNED, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ADDRESSING THE INCREASE OR, UM, THE CONCERN AROUND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS MOBILE HOME PARKS, UH, THAT WAS RESULTING IN TENANT DISPLACEMENT.
UM, IT WAS HAVING A VERY DESTABILIZING EFFECT ON SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS AND OUR CITY, INCLUDING ELDERLY, LOW INCOME AND DISABLED HOUSEHOLDS.
UM, SO THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A CLEAR CITY POLICY AND EQUITABLY APPLIED EXPECTATIONS FOR DEVELOPERS WITH THE GOAL OF, OF REALLY MITIGATING THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF DISPLACEMENT ON OUR RESIDENTS, UM, BY PROVIDING ADEQUATE NOTIFICATION AND FINANCIAL RELOCATION ASSISTANCE FOR TENANTS.
SO THE, THE BENEFIT, UH, WAS FOR TENANTS, THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS, UM, ARE TRIGGERED UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO MAKE A CHANGES TO A MULTI MULTIFAMILY OR MOBILE HOME PROPERTY, UH, FOR MOBILE HOME PARKS, THAT WOULD BE A WIN.
THERE ARE FIVE OR MORE OCCUPIED, UH, HOUSEHOLDS.
AND THEN, UM, AS YOU SEE HERE, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL UPDATES THAT WERE MADE TO THE ORDINANCE, UH, JUST TO PROVIDE, UH, ADDITIONAL CLARITY AND THEN ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK, UH, WAS GATHERED IN 2018.
AND FROM HERE, THE NEXT SLIDE, I WILL PASS IT ON TO SUSAN WHO WILL TALK ABOUT THE VARIOUS, UH, COMPONENTS OF THE TENANT RELOCATION PROGRAM.
AND, UH, SHE'LL TAKE US ON THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS, SUSAN.
I THINK YOU NEVER TD AND GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M SUSAN WATKINS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER IS PLACEMENT PREVENTION AND THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, THE TENANT RELOCATION PROGRAM REALLY CONSISTS OF FOUR MAIN PARTS WITH VARYING ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND WE'LL REVIEW THOSE IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.
UH, THIS GRAPHIC ILLUSTRATES THE PROCESS THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS FOR IMPLEMENTING THE ORDINANCE AND THE NOTIFICATION OF TENANTS.
AND WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THIS PROCESS, ENSURE THAT IT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT AND RESPONSIVE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROGRAM.
AND WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW TO INCORPORATE THE 2022, UM, CLARIFICATION OF LANGUAGE
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AROUND, UH, RENOVATIONS.UH, THE ORDINANCE IN 2016, UM, ESTABLISHED BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY RELOCATION FUND, UM, WHILE, UH, THE STATE LAWS PROHIBIT, UM, LINKAGE FEES AND THE CITY CAN'T REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO FUND THE DEVELOPER FUND.
UH, WE ARE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET.
UM, THERE ARE FUNDS FOR A NEXUS STUDY TO INFORM THAT CALCULATION, UM, OF WHAT A DEVELOPER FEE WOULD BE.
AND SO AS NEVER TO BE MENTIONED, UM, FOR THE CITY FUND, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT DID INTEND TO USE $500,000, UH, FOR THAT PURPOSE IN FISCAL YEAR 20, BUT THAT FUNDING, UM, ENDED UP BEING USED FOR EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE RELATED TO COVID-19 AT INSTEAD.
SO THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THE RELOCATION PROGRAM IS OUTLINED IN THE ORDINANCE AND IT'S SPECIFIC TO DISPLACEMENT CAUSED BY DEMOLITION AND RENOVATION, AND ALSO INCLUDES INCOME ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
UM, FOR THOSE AT, IN THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT 70% MFI AND THEN FOR THE MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENTS, THAT'S 80% MFI.
AND NEXT SLIDE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'LL BE SOLICITED FOR.
IT INCLUDES BOTH FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND HOUSING LOCATORS ASSISTANCE.
AND THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, STAFF IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM.
UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AS MENTIONED TO IMPLEMENT, UH, THE UPDATED ORDINANCE AROUND THE CLARIFICATION AROUND THE RENOVATION LANGUAGE.
AND WE'RE DEVELOPING A PROCESS FOR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, WITH THE VARIOUS PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, WE'RE WORKING ON A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR TENANT RELOCATION SERVICES, UM, FOR THIS YEAR.
AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, UM, TO ESTABLISH GUIDELINES FOR SPLITS, TO BUILD RESPONSIBILITIES AROUND ENFORCEMENT.
UM, INSTEAD OF THE NEXT SIDE AT THIS, THESE ARE OUR NEXT STEPS.
UM, WE'LL CONTINUE, UH, HAVING ENGAGEMENT WITH STAKEHOLDERS ON THE TENANT RELOCATION PROGRAM AND THEN BEGIN THE SOLICITATION PROCESS FOR THE NEXT STUDY, UM, IN THE WINTER.
AND THEN, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SOLICITATION PROCESS FOR THE TENANT RELOCATION SERVICES.
AND THAT IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.
SO QUESTIONS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BAYLA UP, WHAT WOULD THE RELOCATION SERVICES, UH, WHAT WOULD THAT ENCOMPASS, UM, SO THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS, IT WOULD INCLUDE THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON SLIDE.
LET ME GO TO THAT, UH, ON SLIDE NINE, IF YOU CAN PUT THAT SLIDE UP FOR US, I CAN GO OVER THOSE, UH, BUT IT WOULD INCLUDE THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
SO WHATEVER VENDOR IS SELECTED, THANK YOU.
WHATEVER VENDOR VENDOR IS SELECTED, UH, NINE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT ALSO.
UM, WE WOULD FIRST DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT TOO, BECAUSE THE NEEDS OF DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS ARE GOING TO VARY.
SO JUST FOR EXAMPLE, SOME HOUSEHOLDS MIGHT NEED TO BE RELOCATED NEAR SCHOOLS IF THEY HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN.
SO THE MOVING SERVICES ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME.
AND THEN THERE'S DEFINITELY GREATER CHALLENGES WHEN YOU HAVE A RESIDENCE OF A MOBILE HOME PARK, RIGHT? IT IS EASIER TO LOCATE A FAMILY TOOL, AN EXISTING MULTIFAMILY UNIT.
UM, BUT THEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND OR A MOBILE HOME PARK, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
SO THERE'S FIRST A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, HOUSEHOLDS NEED ASSISTANCE WITH LOCATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
IT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE FUNDS CURRENTLY FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE FACING DISPLACEMENT IN AUSTIN THROUGH OUR I BELONG AND AUSTIN PROGRAM.
UM, AND THAT'S SPECIFIC TO HOUSEHOLDS FACING EVICTION A LITTLE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THIS PROGRAM, BUT THE CHALLENGE IS THE SAME.
BEING ABLE TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION, UM, TAKES A LITTLE MORE TIME AND ASSISTANCE.
SO THE, UH, PROVIDER OR VENDOR WILL HELP
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HOUSEHOLDS LOCATE, UH, UNITS FOR WHICH THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE OR, AND THEN ALSO THERE'S THE MOVING AND STORAGE, A RENT PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND OTHER SERVICES, UM, TO BE IDENTIFIED.SO THIS WOULD BE, CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT A PRETTY STRONG PATTERN AT THIS POINT OF ASKING FOLKS TO PROVIDE RENTAL ASSISTANCE, RELOCATION ASSISTANCE IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
SO, BUT THIS WOULD BE KIND OF ROLLING OVER KIND OF A, OR ROLLING SOME CASE MANAGEMENT INTO THE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.
I MEAN, IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT KIND OF CORRECTLY, UH, SO YES, BUT WHAT I LIKE TO ADD IS THIS PROGRAM IS DIFFERENT THAN OUR EXISTING PROGRAMS. UM, THIS, THIS PROGRAM IS IN RESPONSE TO THE TENANT RELOCATION ORDINANCE.
SO IT WOULD ONLY BE USED WHEN A DELT DEVELOPER IS EITHER RENOVATING THEIR PROPERTY OR DEMOLISHING THEIR PROPERTY.
AND SO, UH, THIS IS NOT A CITY WIDE RESPONSE TO OTHER DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES, UH, THAT HOUSEHOLDS MIGHT FACE.
SO IT'S VERY SPECIFIC IT'S IN RESPONSE TO THE TENANT RELOCATION ORDINANCE.
AND THIS IS A VERY LIMITED THEN.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BROADER KIND OF, UH, OKAY.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY WITH REGARD TO THE, THE, UH, MOBILE HOMES, UH, AND I KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OF WHAT, THIS HAS A COUPLE OF THOSE, BUT WHERE CAN FOLKS MOVE? CAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S VERY LIMITED LOCATIONS FOR THEM TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MOVE THEIR, UM, THEIR, THEIR HOMES, TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, OTHER TRAILER PARKS, WHERE THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, HOOK UP AND SETTLE DOWN.
THAT IS A CHALLENGE, UM, THAT, AND, UH, MS. ROMERO, UH, WE HAVE SPOKEN TO HER PREVIOUSLY AS WELL.
MANY RESIDENTS IN MOBILE HOME PARKS ARE FINDING IT INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO FIND LOCATIONS WHERE THEY CAN, UM, RELOCATE.
WE HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH TRISH LINK ABOUT EXPLORING OPTIONS FOR, AND I, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY THIS WELL EXPLORING OPTIONS TO SEE IF PEOPLE RESIDENTS CAN BE RELOCATED OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN'S FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION.
RIGHT NOW, IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND AFFORDABLE, UH, NOT ONLY HOUSING, BUT ALSO MOBILE HOME.
AND SO SOME PEOPLE ARE BEING DENIED THE BENEFITS.
SO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES, BUT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT FIND LOCATIONS WITHIN OUR GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES, THEY'RE BEING TURNED AWAY FOR ASSISTANCE.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD AN INITIAL CONVERSATION AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE WHAT OPTIONS MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO THOSE RESIDENTS.
I REMEMBER, UH, WHEN THERE WAS A TRAILER PARK ON BARTON SPRINGS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
NOW IT'S STILL IN THERE ON BARTON SPRINGS ROAD.
ONE OF THEM HAS GONE, BUT THE OTHER ONE'S STILL THERE, SO THAT'LL BE AN ISSUE AT SOME POINT.
UH, OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER HARPER, MADISON, DID I SEE YOU WITH YOUR HAND RAISED? OKAY, GO AHEAD.
I CAN'T RAISE MY HANDS AND FOR HIM FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
I MEAN, I, I APPRECIATE THE, ALL OF THE DIALOGUE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION NET FOR TD ED.
I, I KEEP COMING BACK TO WONDERING WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE AROUND.
YOU KNOW, I, ESPECIALLY IN HINDSIGHT, AROUND THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND CITY STATION CAMPING, UM, I JUST, I KEEP COMING BACK TO WHAT THE CITY'S OPTION OPTIONS ARE FOR UTILIZING CITY HELD PROPERTY AS A PARKING SPOT FOR, UM, MOBILE HOMES.
UM, AND SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'RE ALREADY HAVING, OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PROHIBITED SOMEHOW, UM, ANYBODY ELSE YOU DO NOT KNOW, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH OTHERS.
UM, AND KEEPING IN MIND, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH RELOCATING THE MOBILE HOME UNITS IS THAT THE ADDITIONAL HOOKUPS AND THINGS.
SO, BUT I CAN FIND OUT I'LL REACH OUT AND FOLLOW UP AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, WHAT I FIND.
AND MAYBE AS AN EXTENSION OF THAT CONVERSATION, I'M REALLY DEEPLY INTERESTED IN HOW WE CAN JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SO FREQUENTLY I THINK WE FORGET ABOUT THE, UH, UH, AFFORDABILITY OF THE MOBILE HOME AS AN OPTION.
UM, UH, AND SO JUST THINKING THROUGH HOW WE CAN BEST UTILIZE OUR ASSETS, IF IT'S A MATTER OF TAKING HUNDREDS OF ACRES OF CITY
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HELD PROPERTY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING IT WITH THE APPROPRIATE UTILITIES, WOULD THAT BE A WAY THAT WE CAN HELP? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I GUESS DREAM BIG, RIGHT? DO WE PARTNER WITH MOBILE HOME ORGANIZATIONS AND HAVE THEM BE PARTNERS OF OURS AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THE UNITS? I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, BUT I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO JUST DEEPLY EXPLORE IN A REAL ROBUST WAY, HOW TO UTILIZE CITY HELD PROPERTY, UM, AND POTENTIAL PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS FOR, UM, SETTING UP SOME CITY MOBILE HOME PARKS.UM, I, I DON'T WANT TO PUT MANDY ON THE SPOT.
I DON'T KNOW IF MANDY AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT AND THIS IS NOT SOME, BUT I WILL ALLOW MANDY TO RESPOND.
I THINK SHE CAN ARTICULATE, ARTICULATE YOUR THOUGHTS A LITTLE BETTER AROUND THIS.
HE DEMANDED DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, WE WOULD FACE SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES, UM, WITH RESPECT TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE WERE FACING WITH THE CITY SANCTIONED CAMPING SITES, UM, THAT WE WOULD CHASE THAT FACE WITH, UH, UH, RELOCATING MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY.
ONE IS FRANKLY THE LENGTH OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO, UH, PROPERLY, UM, EXTEND UTILITIES TO THE SITE TO ENSURE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE HOOKUPS, UH, FOR WATER, SEWER, ELECTRICITY, UM, MOST OF THE SITES THAT THE CITY HAS IN ITS POSSESSION OR NOT, UH, WE, UM, UH, DON'T HAVE FULL HOOKUPS AVAILABLE.
AND I THINK WE WENT THROUGH THAT WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE INVENTORY OF SYLVIA AND SITES FOR THE CITY SANCTIONED CAMPSITES, THE OTHER IS REALLY THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS.
UM, THESE SITES WOULD BE TO BE PROPERLY ZONED AND ENTITLED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TASTES TAKES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.
IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK INTO.
I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OR ROAD OUT.
UM, AND THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO WITH THE NORTH LAMAR MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY.
THEY PARTNERED WITH A NATIONAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FINANCIAL INSTITUTION TO ACTUALLY CREATE A COOPERATIVE, UM, TO PURCHASE THEIR MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY FROM THE PRIVATE, UM, OWNER OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN ENABLE THOSE HOMEOWNERS.
I BELIEVE IT WAS 65 HOMEOWNERS, UM, TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND ACTUALLY IMPROVE.
WE PROVIDED ALONE THE RESIDENT OWNED COMMUNITIES OR ROCK, WHICH IS THE NAME OF THE CDFI, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, A NONPROFIT, UM, PROVIDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, TO HELP IMPROVE THE NORTH OAKLAND THAT NORTH LAMAR MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY, UM, AND PROVIDE THAT INVESTMENT, UM, BUT MAINTAIN THE AFFORDABILITY OVER THE LONGTERM.
SO AT SOMETHING WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT AND LOOKING AT CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, UM, BUT THERE, THIS WOULD NOT BE WITHOUT ITS HURDLES.
SHOULD WE CONTEMPLATE CITY PROPERTY OR A MOBILE HOME FEED? OKAY.
I THINK IT, IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT MY TEAM AND I WILL BE IN TOUCH WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND BE IN TOUCH TO SEE WHAT SORTS OF BARRIERS THAT SOME SPECIFIC COUNCIL ACTION MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP BYPASS.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FORM IS ONE OF MANY THAT WE'RE REALLY GONNA NEED TO BE ABLE TO, TO THINK ABOUT.
I JUST KEEP THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING FROM CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ABOUT THEIR IMPENDING, UH, VISION STORM TSUNAMI, CATASTROPHIC.
I MEAN, THESE WORDS ARE GETTING TOSSED AROUND A LOT AND WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT AUSTIN.
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, THIS NATIONWIDE INFLUX OF EVICTIONS, UM, I, I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AUSTIN IS THEN AT THE FOREFRONT.
LIKE WE HAVE BEEN SO MANY OTHER TIMES AND ARE TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INNOVATIVE AND NOT, NOT MISSING A CHANCE TO, TO BUILD IN SOME PROTECTIONS, EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO DOING, BE GREAT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE GET TO WHAT LEVERS WE COULD START PULLING NOW.
UM, THAT WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL.
UM, WE OBVIOUSLY NEEDED ALREADY, BUT REALLY HELPFUL IN THE FUTURE.
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ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.OH, DID YOU FINISH COUNCIL MEMBER HARBOR MADISON.
SO I WANTED TO ASK YOU, UH, ABOUT THE TIMING.
SO I'M SEEING ON THE NEXT STEPS THAT THE SOLICITATION PROCESS FOR TENANT RELOCATION SERVICES DOESN'T OCCUR UNTIL SPRING.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY WE CAN'T GO AHEAD AND START THAT.
I MEAN, THE IT'S NOT DEPENDENT UPON THE NEXUS STUDY, AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE NOT DOING THIS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
THE NEXUS STUDY MIGHT INFORM WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE DEVELOPER TENANT RELOCATION FUND.
BUT IF I'M READING, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, THE TENANT RELOCATION SERVICES ARE FOR THE BOTH PARTS OF THE PROGRAM, THE CITY TENANT RELOCATION FUND AND THE DEVELOPER TENANT RELOCATION FUNDS.
SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND? UM, I THINK I'M JUST FEELING SOME URGENCY, PARTICULARLY AFTER ALL THE CONVERSATION AND THE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING.
UM, IF WE WAIT FOR THE SOLICITATION PROCESS IN THE SPRING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EASILY TALKING LATE SPRING OR SUMMER, OR EVEN LATER BEFORE WE ACTUALLY MAKE THOSE DOLLARS AVAILABLE.
SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT Y'ALL ARE, WHAT YOUR CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE TIMING I, UM, THE CHALLENGES ARE REALLY TIME AND RESOURCES OF KEEPING IN MIND THAT OUR DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION EFFORTS AND INITIATIVES ARE ALL NEW.
EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT, UH, HAS TO BE BEING BUILT FROM A TO Z.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE.
UH, WE RECENTLY BROUGHT ON, UH, SUSAN TO HELP LEAD NEW PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES, UH, THAT WILL BE LAUNCHED.
AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING ON, UM, UH, RENT SOLICITATION THAT'S THAT'S PRIORITY FOR US, A COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON MENTIONED THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS EXPECTATION OF INCREASED, UH, EVICTIONS.
AND WE ARE SEEING THAT THROUGH OUR EXISTING PROGRAMS WITH OUR, I BELONG IN AUSTIN PROGRAM, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, THE FUNDS MORE QUICKLY THAN THEY EVER HAD.
AND THOSE FUNDS ARE, UM, OR HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE FACING EVICTION, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE THAT PROGRAM AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE DOLLARS QUICKLY AS MORE FAMILIES AND HOUSEHOLDS ARE FINDING THEMSELVES BEHIND ON RENT.
SO, SO I KNOW IT'S JUST A SERIES OF PROGRAMS AND THEN THE 20 CONTRACTS OR 15, I'M SORRY, CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE FOR PROJECT CONNECT.
ALL NEW PROGRAMS IS TAKING TIME.
AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING JUST REALLY, REALLY GOOD WORK ON EVERYTHING YOU DO AS A HIGH PRIORITY, PARTICULARLY CONSIDERING THE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, CRISIS WE'RE ALL IN RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE COULD DO BETTER, UH, AS A COUNCIL TO HELP YOU ALL WITH THAT.
UM, BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THESE THINGS SEQUENTIALLY, UH, PARTICULARLY NOT LIKE THIS.
AND SO WE CAN, UH, I'LL TALK WITH YOU OFFLINE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP, UM, TO GET THIS MOVING.
UH, THE TENANT RELOCATION SERVICES MOVING MORE QUICKLY.
I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING DEMOLITIONS EVERY DAY.
SO, AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING IS IMPORTANT IN A HIGH PRIORITY.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND I KNOW IT TAKES RESOURCES TO GET THINGS DONE.
SO, UM, LET'S, MAYBE WE CAN TALK OFFLINE ABOUT SEEING WHAT WE, WHAT WE COULD DO, WHAT THE COUNCIL COULD DO, OR PERHAPS, UH, OTHER PARTS OF THE, OF THE, OF THE CITY COULD DO TO HELP GET THESE THINGS DONE.
SO LET'S SEE, UM, OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, QUINTUS.
UM, AND JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILMEMBER KITCHEN OR VICE-CHAIR KITCHEN.
WE KNOW THAT IN MY COMMUNITY, I'VE HAD A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN DISPLACED AND JUST A MILE UP THE STREET.
THERE'S ANOTHER MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY IN CONTRAVENT THAT HE IS DISTRICT THAT IS GOING THROUGH DISPLACEMENT RIGHT NOW.
AND AS YOU MENTIONED, MS. JACKMAN THAT OUR EVICTION FILINGS ARE BACK UP TO PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS.
I JUST LOOKED@EVICTIONLAB.ORG, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT JUST LAST WEEK, WE HAD OVER 150 EVICTION FILINGS IN OUR CITY.
SO THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT FOLKS ARE GETTING DISPLACED AND THAT OUR RESOURCES ARE BEING UTILIZED, BUT WE NEED TO SCALE THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN GET THAT RFP PROCESS OUT MORE QUICKLY AND EXPEDITE IT, UM, CERTAINLY WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE ARE AT A CRISIS LEVEL WHEN IT COMES TO DISPLACEMENT.
I WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO A QUESTION THAT COMES FROM AVELLA RAISED ABOUT HOW WE CAN EXPAND USES OF MOBILE HOMES THROUGHOUT MULTIPLE CATEGORIES.
RIGHT? THAT'S THE QUESTION YOU WERE ASKING.
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UM, AND SINCE WE HAD MANDY ON THE SCREEN, ALTHOUGH I THINK SHE JUST, SHE BACKED UP OR, UM, IF THERE YOU GO JUST LAST YEAR, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, WHAT MORE CAN WE BE DOING TO EXPAND THE USE OF MOBILE HOMES THROUGHOUT AUSTIN? UM, I MEAN, A MOBILE HOMES, THEY ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND THESE ARE HOMES THAT WHERE OUR FAMILIES ARE PAYING BETWEEN FIVE TO $700, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE BEDROOMS THAT THESE ARE HOMES FOR OUR HARDWORKING FAMILIES.AND IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND ANOTHER, UH, MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY WHERE FOLKS WERE BEING DISPLACED FROM THEIR MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY TO GO, TO GET TO, AND TO ADD ANOTHER BARRIER.
THERE ARE CERTAIN MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES THAT DO NOT ACCEPT HOMES THAT ARE, UH, THAT WERE CREATED EARLIER THAN A CERTAIN YEAR.
SO IT'S NOT JUST AS EASY JUST TO, ONCE YOU FIND A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY THAT HAS SPACE TO ACCEPT YOU AND YOUR HOME, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL BARRIERS OUR FAMILIES ARE FACING.
SO MANDY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO, WHAT MORE CAN WE BE DOING TO EXPAND THE USE OF MOBILE HOME, UH, IN OUR ZONING CATEGORIES, ANY INSIGHT THERE AND A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, ONE AT THE SEPTEMBER 1ST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THAT WAS JUST LAST WEEK.
UM, YOU ALL ASKED US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS FOR OUR INVESTMENTS.
SO RENTAL HOUSING, DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, AND OWNERSHIP, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, UM, TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN RUN OUR ELIGIBILITY WITH RESPECT TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT, UM, CHARACTERISTICS.
ONE WAS THE USE OF, OR INVESTMENT OF OUR DOLLARS INTO MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES.
UM, I MENTIONED BEFORE WITH THE NORTH LAMAR MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY THAT WE HAD INVESTED IN THIS CASE, I THINK BEFORE I SAID, RHODA, WHICH IS RENTAL HOUSING WAS ACTUALLY ODA, WHICH IS OWNERSHIP HOUSING BECAUSE THE MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES, WHILE THEY RENT THE LAND ON WHICH THEY SIT, THEY ACTUALLY OWN THE STRUCTURE.
SO IT DOES FALL UNDER OUR OWNERSHIP HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES IN OUR GUIDELINES BECAUSE THEY FOLLOW FEDERAL GUIDELINES, UM, IN THE SENSE THAT MOBILE HOME, OUR INVESTMENT, UH, IS ELIGIBLE TO BE USED ON MOBILE HOMES THAT ARE PERMANENTLY AFFIXED TO THE LAND, SO THAT ARE TRULY NOT MOBILE.
UM, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UM, PROHIBITS US FROM INVESTING FEDERAL DOLLARS AND THAT'S OUR LOCAL GUIDELINES KIND OF FOLLOW THAT, UH, GUIDANCE, UM, BUT PROHIBITS US FROM INVESTING FEDERAL DOLLARS, UM, INTO, UH, PROPERTY OR MOBILE HOMES THAT ARE, UH, NOT PERMANENTLY AFFIXED TO THE LAND.
UM, SO THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY WE ARE GOING TO BE OPENING UP A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AND EXPLORING BOTH THAT ONE COMPONENT MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY.
I THINK THERE WERE FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THROUGH OUR RHODA AND ODA, UM, UH, PROGRAM GUIDELINES THROUGH A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS THAT WE'LL BE KICKING OFF SOMETIME, HOPEFULLY WINTER OF 20 22, 23, UM, WHERE WE'LL LOOK AT ALL OF OUR ELIGIBILITY, UH, GUIDELINES.
WE DID THIS, WE DO IT, WE TRY TO DO IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
WE ALSO, UM, OPENED UP OUR TENANT ELIGIBILITY AROUND, UM, CRIMINAL BACKGROUNDS.
THAT WAS A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
I THINK THAT WAS 18 MONTHS AGO.
SO MOBILE HOMES WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT IN ADDITION, APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, UM, AT THE TIME IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER COSAR WHO, UM, UH, SHEPHERDED A RESOLUTION THAT HAD US LOOK AT ZONING CATEGORIES AND ENSURING THAT ALL CURRENTLY, UM, MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES THAT WERE CURRENTLY BEING UTILIZED AS MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES, OR IN FACT ZONE FOR MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES TO KIND OF, UH, LIVE IT, THE, UH, LIMIT THE POSSIBILITY OF DISPLACEMENT.
IF THE LAND IN FACT WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL OR ANOTHER SORT OF RESIDENTIAL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD AS EXPANSIVE AS POSSIBLE, UM, UH, ZONING FOR THESE EXISTING MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES.
I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WERE, UH, WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THE SOUTH LAMAR, NO, I'M SORRY, SOUTH CONGRESS, MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS WHO, UH, THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR THEM TO MOVE.
I MEAN, JUST NOT AN OPTION FOR THEM.
WE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION.
SO IS THERE THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD CONTEMPLATE,
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UM, PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO FOLKS OUTSIDE OF THE FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION? UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING AS THAT FOR TD MENTIONED WORKING WITH NOW ON, UM, IT'S NOT A PRACTICE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE COMMON WHERE WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF AVOIDING DISPLACEMENT, NOT, UM, FURTHERING DISPLACEMENT OF FOLKS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, BUT IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS, THERE MAY BE SO MANY RESTRICTIONS ON WHERE SOMEONE CAN MOVE, UM, THAT IT MAY IN FACT NEED TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.SO WE ARE CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATING THAT.
UM, AND I HAD ONE OTHER THING AND I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN IT DOWN.
OH, UM, THAT WE ARE, UH, LAUNCHING, UM, A CAPACITY BUILDING PROGRAM.
AGAIN, THIS WAS A GROUP AT THAT H S C SEPTEMBER 1ST, UM, MEETING.
AND THIS CAPACITY BUILDING, UH, WILL SPECIFICALLY, UM, BE FOR SMALL, UH, DEVELOPERS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND WE'RE HOPING THAT, UM, SOME OF OUR, UH, FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING IN THE COOPERATIVE BUSINESS, UM, COULD POTENTIALLY BENEFIT FROM ACCESSING, UH, CAPACITY BUILDING THAT WILL ALSO PROVIDE ACCESS TO FUNDING, UM, FOR REDEVELOPMENT OR IN THE CASE OF A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY, UH, CREATION OF COOPERATIVES AND REINVESTMENT INTO THESE COMMUNITIES.
AND JUST ALSO WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE WERE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS ABLE TO HAVE FOR THE FIRST TIME, THAT $700,000 INVESTMENT IN THE TENANT RELOCATION FUND.
SO I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT THAT WAS ALSO PART OF, UM, OF THE BUDGET THAT WE ADOPTED FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.
ONE OF THE POLICIES THAT I'M INTERESTED IN WORKING ON THAT MY, UM, MY TEAM MEMBER MENTIONED SOPHIA THAT SAN ANTONIO DOES IS THAT WHEN A, UM, A, A NOTICE OF NON-RENEWAL IS ISSUED TO, TO A TENANT OR AN EVICTION NOTICE IS ISSUED, UM, THAT THEY HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT INFORMATION BE INCLUDED ON PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THAT TENANT, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN SEE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS THE, I BELONG HERE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE, UH, EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE, ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS OUT LISTED, UM, IN A WAY THAT INFORMS OUR COMMUNITY OF, OF WHAT THE CITY IS DOING TO HELP.
AND SO I CERTAINLY WANT TO, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO ANYONE INTERESTED IN WORKING ON THAT ISSUE, UH, TO WORKING TOGETHER.
AND, UH, VICE CHAIR KITCHEN, UH, HAD TO LEAVE THE DAY IS, SO I GUESS I WILL BRING US HOME HERE AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO, UH, COME FROM MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, ALL RIGHT.
THEN I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
IT'S MY, THAT, UH, MOBILE HOMES ARE ONLY ALLOWED IN AREAS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY ZONED FOR, UH, MOBILE HOMES.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR WHERE CAN THEY, UH, BE WHERE ARE MOBILE HOMES ALLOWED? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, JUST THROUGH CONVERSATIONS THAT OUR HOUSING ASSISTANCE MONEY, OUR EMERGENCY HOUSING REPAIR ASSISTANCE MONEY IS NOT AVAILABLE TO, UM, TO MOBILE HOMES WHO ARE, UH, RENTING OR, YOU KNOW, TO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY DO NOT OWN THEIR PROPERTY AND IT'S NOT PERMANENTLY ATTACHED, UH, BUT YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO, AND AGAIN, LET ME JUST LAY OUT THE SCENARIO REAL QUICK.
SOMEONE IS RENTING AT A TRAILER PARK.
THEY CAN MAKE THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENTS.
THEY'RE FINE, BUT THEIR, UH, ACTUAL MOBILE HOME IS FALLING APART AND IS IN NEED OF SOME EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO CONTINUE IN A PLACE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN FOR AWHILE.
ARE WE ABLE TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE TO FOLKS IN THAT SITUATION? SO OUR PUMP THAT HAS ONE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS, HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS, DO NOT PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO FOLKS WHOSE MOBILE HOMES ARE NOT PERMANENTLY AFFIXED TO THE LAND.
HAVING SAID THAT WE WORK WITH THE AUSTIN HOME REPAIR HOUSING REPAIR COALITION, WHICH IS A COALITION OF NONPROFITS AND OTHER PROVIDERS OF HOME REPAIR SERVICES.
AND SOME OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, SOME OF THOSE NONPROFITS HAVE ACCESS TO FUNDS THAT ARE NOT FEDERAL FUNDS, UM, OR NOT THE CITY OF AUSTIN FUNDS AND CAN BE USED LESS RESTRICTIVELY.
UM, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE EXAMPLES OF, OF FOLKS, UM, WHO ARE
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IN NEED OF REPAIRS AND THOSE NONPROFITS WE'RE ABLE TO CONNECT THEM TO THOSE NONPROFITS, TO PROVIDE THOSE REPAIRS, EVEN IF THE CITY OF AUSTIN CANNOT PROVIDE, UH, THAT'S VERY, UH, GOOD TO HEAR, ALTHOUGH AN UNDERSTAND THE FEDERAL FUNDS ARE LIMITED.WE CANNOT USE THOSE FOR A MOBILE HOME REPAIRS, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IN, IN, IN FUTURE HOUSING BONDS AND MAKING CITY MONIES AVAILABLE, WE CAN, UH, MAKE OUR LOCAL MONIES AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE THE EMERGENCY HOME REPAIRS TO A MOBILE HOME, OR ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT? SO THIS IS INTERESTING AND I WANT TO STAY IN MY LANE.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT, OR ARE LOCALLY FUNDED AND REPAIR PROGRAMS, IT'S THE GENERAL OBLIGATION OR GO REPAIR PROGRAM.
AND THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN SPECIFICALLY VETTED BECAUSE IT IS FUNDED WITH GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, UH, VETTED AND APPROVED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
UM, WHEN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS FROM THE 2006 AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS.
UM, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE CANNOT REVISIT IT WITH OUR LOCAL FUNDS.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF PART AND PARCEL OF THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS THAT I MENTIONED, UH, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED THE RESOLUTION ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
AND WE WILL BE KICKING OFF THAT STAKEHOLDER PROCESS WITHIN THE COMING MONTHS IS I REALLY ANTICIPATE WINTER OF 20, 22, 23, UH, TO LOOK AT RESTRICTIONS AROUND INVESTMENT IN MOBILE HOME FEES.
OKAY, WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS JUST BARELY HANGING ON, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN MOBILE HOMES THAT ARE BARELY LIVABLE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME ASSISTANCE COULD POTENTIALLY KEEP THEM THERE HAPPILY FOR, YOU KNOW, YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
UH, BUT, UM, UH, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO, UH, TO DO THAT.
UH, ANY, UM, JAMIE MAY THE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR THE HOUSING PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO CONNECT A FEW DOTS THAT CAME UP EARLIER.
UH, MANDY MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE MOBILE HOMES ARE, ARE, UH, PERMITTED UNDER A DIFFERENT, UH, CODE ESSENTIALLY.
UM, IT'S AN INCOME, TOTALLY DIFFERENT BUILDING CODE.
UM, SO IT'D BE A DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT FORMAT ENTIRELY.
UM, AND THEN, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT THE MOBILE HOME PARKS, UH, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, HARPER MADISON SPOKE ABOUT, UH, IT'S NOT JUST THE, THE, UH, CONNECTIONS TO UTILITIES, IT'S ALSO ROAD NETWORKS AND PLANNING.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES INTO A MOBILE HOME PARK ITSELF, UH, THAT ARE, UH, FAIRLY LONGTERM.
UH, SO IT'S A VERY INTENSIVE, UH, PROCESS IN ORDER TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE AND IT'S A PRODUCT THAT WE DON'T DEAL WITH IN OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. SO IT'S A SPECIALTY TYPE OF SITUATION.
WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN EXPLORING THESE ISSUES.
UM, BUT IT IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST A PLUG AND PLAY TYPE OF, UH, SITUATION.
UM, AND JUST A QUICK QUESTION OFF THAT I KNOW WE CALL THEM MOBILE HOMES AND THERE'S THIS EXPECTATION THAT THEY CAN BE MOVED FROM PLACE TO PLACE, BUT IS THAT THE REALITY ARE MOBILE HOMEOWNERS ACTUALLY MOVING THEIR HOMES FROM, YOU KNOW, A TRAILER PARK TO A TRAILER PARK OR, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY COMMUNITY, NOT NECESSARILY THE NOMENCLATURE THAT I'M MORE FAMILIAR WITH IS THE MANUFACTURED HOMES.
UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF A SHIFT IN THE, UM, IN THE INDUSTRY.
UM, MOBILE HOMES WERE ORIGINALLY FROM THE 1970S, AND THEN AS THEY'VE BECOME MORE FAMILIAR WITH, AS A FIXED TO THE GROUND, UH, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, TERMED AS MANUFACTURED HOMES, BUT THEY ARE STILL MOBILE IN THAT YOU CAN PICK THEM UP AND MOVE THEM, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO DETACH THEM FROM THAT PERMANENT FOUNDATION.
SO IT'S THE FOUNDATION THAT'S PERMANENT THAT PERMANENT OF FICTION CAN BE, UH, CAN BE RELEASED.
HOWEVER, IT JUST TAKES A LOT OF THE TIME.
AND ASSUMING, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY OTHER INFORMATION FROM STAFF, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM.
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CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR, FUTURE AGENDA, ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR ANY FUTURE AGENDAS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARBOR MEDICINE.I WAS JUST, UM, UH, ASSET, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TAKE NOTE OF THE FACT THAT THIS TENANT RELOCATION CONVERSATION TURNED INTO A CONVERSATION ABOUT MOBILE HOMES AND, UM, NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABILITY.
I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A THREAD THAT, UH, OR A NEEDLE, WHICH YOU CONTINUE TO THREAD ALONG THESE LINES.
I THINK IT'LL COME UP MORE AND MORE, UM, UH, AND THE DISTINCTIONS THAT JAMIE WAS MAKING REFERENCE TO, RIGHT? THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MODULAR AND THE MANUFACTURED AND, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST GENERALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND THIS WHOLE ECOSYSTEM.
I I'M CERTAINLY FULLY AWARE THAT IT CAN BE AS EASY AS PLUG AND PLAY, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME
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THAT IF THIS MIGHT BE A PATH THAT HAS FEWER BARRIERS THAN NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION, I COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD SURELY LOVE TO EXPLORE AND SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT WE HADN'T.UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, NOW ALSO WITH KIND OF YOUR TINY HOMES AND YOUR KIND OF NEW ITERATION OF WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WHERE, UH, IT MAY BECOME EASIER POTENTIALLY TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE A 400 SQUARE FOOT HOME.
I KNOW A LOT OF THE MANUFACTURED HOMES ARE MUCH LARGER THAN THAT, BUT IF THEY GET SMALL ENOUGH, IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO MOVE THEM AROUND.
AND, UH, IF WE CAN FACILITATE THAT AND IT HELPS AFFORDABILITY AND IT HELPS PEOPLE WITH HOUSING OPTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SO CUSTOMER OPERA MEDICINE, THANK YOU.
YOU REMINDED ME OF ANOTHER THING THAT I WAS THINKING OF THE OTHER DAY.
SO I VERY RECENTLY, UH, SHIFTED IN A SENSE THAT I'M HAVING TO LEARN HOW TO LIVE SMALLER THAN I HAD BEFORE.
AND IT'S HAPPENED IN MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF OUR LIVES, SMALLER, SMALLER, SMALLER, JUST TO SPEAK TO AFFORDABILITY.
UM, I THINK MUCH LIKE THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE AROUND CULTURE SHIFTS WITH MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION.
I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO EVENTUALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND A UNIFIED KIND OF COLLECTIVE DIALOGUE AROUND LIVING SMALLER IN WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN SUCCESSFULLY DO.
SO I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF THE CULTURE AROUND HOW WE LIVE WITHIN THE STUFF WE THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AND NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PROHIBITING OUR ABILITY TO ACCESS AFFORDABILITY FREQUENTLY.
WE, WE, UH, I, I THINK WE OWE IT TO OURSELVES, INTO OUR CONSTITUENTS TO HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO HELP PEOPLE TRANSITION AND ACCLIMATE TO SMALL LIVING.
AND I THINK IN OUR SENIOR POPULATION, UH, WE'RE SEEING THAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS ARE JUST DON'T NEED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE THAT THEY MAYBE GREW UP IN AND RAISED THEIR FAMILY IN, AND THEY DON'T NEED TO PAY TO AIR CONDITION IT, AND THEY DON'T NEED TO PAY TO WATER THE LAWN.
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO KIND OF DOWNSIZE, UH, ECONOMIZE AND AGAIN, EH, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO FACILITATE THOSE KINDS OF MOVES, UH, I THINK WE, UH, WE NEED TO BE DOING SO ALL RIGHT, WELL WITH NO OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND NO OTHER, UH, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, THEN I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE AT 4:34 PM.