Sep 13, 2022 Planning Commission

UM, ALRIGHT WITH THAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS HERE THIS EVENING, IF YOU CAN JUST, UH, PRETENDING VIRTUALLY, IF YOU CAN JUST HAVE YOUR RED, UH, GREEN, YELLOW, RED CARDS TO MAKE IT EASY FOR ME TO COUNTER BOATS, THAT'LL BE HELPFUL.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE A, UH, FIRST READING OF THE LET'S BACK UP ONE SECOND.

SO WE HAVE NO, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION THIS EVENING.

GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE MINUTES.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, DID WE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES THAT WERE POSTED? UH, HEARING NONE.

WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE THOSE APPROVAL.

THE MINUTES TO THE, UH, AGENDA THIS EVENING AND UH, I BELIEVE, UH,

[Reading of the Agenda]

VICE CHAIR.

YOU'RE GONNA HELP ME WITH THE FIRST READING OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

ITEM B FIVE, REZONING C 14 20 22 87 87 0 1 AND 86 27.

SO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT, WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 23RD, 2022 B2.

WE HAVE PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2022 DASH 0 0 2 THREE.ZERO ONE DOT S H IT'S 51 0 7 TO 51 15 LANCASTER.

THAT IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO SEPTEMBER 27TH.

WE DID GET LATE WORD ABOUT A REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO A LATER DATE.

UM, IS ANDREW, CAN YOU CORRECT ME ON THIS ONE? THIS IS THE ONLY ONE.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON, UM, VI'S CHAIR.

I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTED, UH, IS IT OCTOBER 11TH? AND THAT IS, UM, THE APPLICANT IS NOT, UH, IS NOT ONE IS NOT AN AGREEMENT, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION POSTPONE.

B2 PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2022 DASH 2 3 0 1 S H 51 0 7, 2 51 15 LANCASTER.

THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ITEM B3 REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 1 8 DOT S H 51 0 7 TO 51 15 LANCASTER AT FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ITEM B FOUR, REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 86 0 7 WEST 14TH STREET.

THAT IS ON CONSENT

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NORTH MOPAC IS UP FOR CONSENT ITEM B SIX RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TERMINATION, C 14 R DASH 82 DASH 0 1 6 R C T 87 0 1 AND 86 27 NORTH MOPAC, R C T THAT'S ON CONSENT NV SEVEN RIGHT OF WAY VACATION ALLEY S P 2022 DASH 0 0 5 9 C 2022 DASH 3 3 600 LM.

THAT IS ON CONSENT ITEM B EIGHT RIGHT OF WAY VACATION STREET, P 20 22, 5 90 C 2022 DASH 3 3 7 5 1 LM THAT'S ON CONSENT ITEM B NINE SITE PLAN, ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCES, P DASH 20 21 80 40 D BORDERS BOAT DOC ONE IS ON CONSENT ITEM B 10 DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS S P 2021 DASH 0 1 7 2 C 3 0 7 AND THREE 19 EAST.

SECOND STREET IS ON CONSENT ITEM B 11 SITE PLAN, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT S P C 20 21 0 3 100 C 1 0 807 NORTH I H 35 IS ON CONSENT ITEM B B12 PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL C EIGHT J DASH 2022 DASH 1 41 GUA HORN PHASE ONE A APPROVE, UH, WITH CONDITIONS, EXHIBIT PER EXHIBIT C, ITEM B 13 FINAL PLAT OUT OF AN IMPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT J DASH 20 16, 180 EIGHT.ZERO ONE DO ONE AON PARK, SECTION TWO C PHASE FOUR.

THAT'S UP FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS PER EXHIBIT C B 14, FINAL PLAT OUT OF AN APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT J DASH 2018 DASH 0 2 3 2 A LONGVIEW PHASE TWO.

THAT'S UP FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS PER EXHIBIT C AND FINALLY B 15 CODE AMENDMENT ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS OF FOR DISCUSSION AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION POSTPONED ANY ACTION TO SEPTEMBER 21ST.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.

UM, I WOULD LIKE

[15. Code Amendment: Environmental Protection, Landscape Requirements, and Site Plan Requirements]

TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE LAST ITEM, UM, ITEM 15.

WE, UM, WE HAVE FORMED A WORKING GROUP TO, UH, TO DISCUSS THIS.

WE ALSO, UM, DON'T HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF FOLKS HERE THIS EVENING AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO I'M GOING TO, UM, SEE IF WE CAN, UM, CONSIDER POSTPONING THIS TO OUR NEXT MEETING.

UM, DOES, UH, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE STAFF HERE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE, UM, THAT REQUEST A POSTPONE? SURE.

LIZ, LIZ JOHNSTON WITH, UH, WATERSHED PROTECTION.

I'M HERE WITH KATIE COIN ENVIRONMENT OFFICER.

UM, YEAH, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS VERY LIKELY THAT THIS WOULD NOT, THAT NO ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN AT THIS MEETING THIS EVENING.

WE WANTED TO, UH, HOLD SPACE IN CASE THERE WERE QUESTIONS.

HOWEVER, SO, UM, WHATEVER YOUR, YOUR DECISION IS, WILL BE FINE.

UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF ANYONE ELSE ON THE WORKING GROUP THINKS IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE COMMISSION OR, OR SPEAK AT ALL ABOUT IT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.

UM, SO THAT WOULD PUT THAT ON THE SEPTEMBER 27TH MEETING.

AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.

UH, WE'LL ALSO, UH, HAVE OUR WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS AND THEN AS WE'VE DONE BEFORE, WE'LL MOVE INTO CONSIDERING THOSE VOTING ON THOSE AMENDMENTS AT THAT TIME, IT'LL BE A VERY FULL AGENDA.

UM, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE WE PRIORITIZE THAT ITEM, UH, FOR THAT MEETING.

UH, DO I HAVE ANY OPPOSITION ON POSTPONING THAT ITEM TILL THE 9 27, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER COX?

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UM, WE DO, WE DO HAVE A, A SECTION FOR UPDATES ON FROM COMMITTEES AND WORKING GROUPS.

THE WORKING GROUP WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THEIR ACTIVITIES AT THAT TIME.

IT'S NOT AS FACE FOR STAFF TO GIVE US ANY INFORMATION THOUGH.

IS THAT YOUR, IS THAT, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT COMMISSION? YEAH, I'M GOOD.

UH, ALRIGHT THEN WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND POSTPONE THAT ITEM UNTIL SEPTEMBER 27TH.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THROUGH THE

[Consent Agenda]

SO, UH, BEFORE WE START, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT NEED TO RECUSE IT THEMSELVES FROM ANY OF THE ITEMS THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T SEE ANY, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.

SO THE, UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING, GOING TO, UH, PROVE THE MINUTES FROM, UH, AUGUST 23RD, UH, 2022.

WE HAVE ITEM B TWO AND ITEM B, UH, THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THEN B THREE REZONING THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP HERE IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT NEIGHBORHOOD REQUEST FOR OCTOBER 11TH.

AND APPLICANT IS NOT IN AGREEMENT.

UH, WE HAVE ITEM B FOUR.

REZONING IS ON CONSENT.

B FIVE REZONING IS ON CONSENT.

B SIX RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TERMINATION IS ON CONSENT ITEM B SEVEN RIGHT AWAY.

VACATION ALLEY IS ON CONSENT AT ITEM EIGHT, UH, RIGHT AWAY VACATION STREET ON CONSENT ITEM B UH, NINE SITE PLAN, ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCE ON CONSENT, 10 DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS ON CONSENT.

B 11 SITE PLAN.

CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS ON CONSENT B12.

I'M SORRY OF STILL USING THE OLD SYSTEM OF AGENDA.

SO ITEM 12 PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL APPROVED WITH CONDITION EXHIBIT C 13 APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS, UH, FOUND IN EXHIBIT C 14 FINAL PLA OUT OF AN APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS IN EXHIBIT C.

AND IF WE JUST DISCUSSED 15 WILL BE POSTPONED TILL SEPTEMBER 27TH.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? ALL RIGHT.

UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND, UH, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, VICE CHAIR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

UM, THOMPSON LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE VOTES ON THE DIAS AND THOSE VIRTUALLY.

THAT'S EIGHT TO ZERO.

GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ITEM FOR ITEMS TWO AND THREE.

THE FIRST ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO

[Items 2 & 3]

AND JUST TO REVIEW OUR RULES ON THIS, UH, WE HEAR, UM, FIRST FROM, WE GET THIS STRAIGHT, UH, BELIEVE IT'S THE, THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE POSTPONEMENT OR REQUESTING THE POSTPONEMENT.

AND WE HAVE TWO, UH, MINUTES FOR TWO SPEAKERS.

AND THEN, UH, SO WE'LL START.

WHO, WHO DO WE HAVE? IS SOMEBODY VIRTUALLY, UH, I WILL CHECK.

HOLD ON.

I'VE GOT, GOT THE LIST.

I THINK THE, UM, PERSON SPEAKING FOR THE POSTPONE, THE FIRST SPEAKER SHOULD BE WILL HEATH COAT.

I'M LOOKING AT OUR SPEAKER LIST HERE.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S WHO I'M SHOWING SPEAKING.

THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL HEATH COAT.

AND THE FIRST SPEAKER SHE GET THREE MINUTES.

THE FOLLOWING SPEAKER STILL ME SINGER, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

WOULD GET TWO MINUTES.

WE'RE DOING THREE AND TWO.

UH, SO LET'S

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GO AHEAD AND START THEN.

UH, MR. UH HEATHCOTE.

IS IT HEATHCOTT HEATHCOTT YES.

SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BECAUSE WE KEEP POSTPONING IT, UH, THE LAST POSTPONEMENT THAT WE MADE WAS TO ACCOMMODATE A MONTH LONG POSTPONE AT THE CONTACT TEAM LEVEL.

HELLO.

UM, MY NAME IS WILL HEATHCOTT.

I, UH, I LIVE JUST ACROSS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON 1306 EAST 52ND STREET.

UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ASKED FOR A POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 11TH.

OUR POSITION IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING AND MOVING TARGET FOR, FOR MONTHS NOW, JUST 30 DAYS AGO, THE DEVELOPER DISCLOSED THAT, UM, A REVISION OF THE SCOPE, REALLY THAT FOR UNITS 51 0 7, THIS IS EITHER LOTS 51 0 7 AND 51 0 9 THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THEY WOULD, IN ADDITION TO BEING OFFICE BUILDINGS, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP 23 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON TOP, UM, TAKING THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM TWO TO FOUR STORIES.

AND, AND SIMPLY WE WE'VE ASKED FOR THIS POSTPONEMENT BECAUSE WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO, TO CONVENE AS A COMMUNITY AND REALLY SEE WHAT, HOW OUR NEIGHBORS ARE FEEL ABOUT THIS.

UM, THERE, THERE, THERE WAS A POSTPONEMENT BY THE APPLICANT ON AUGUST 23RD AND, AND WE JUST FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IF, IF POSTPONED TO OCTOBER 11TH, THAT THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME TO REALLY BE ABLE TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, UM, AND, AND GET A TEMPERATURE ON, ON THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THAT, HOW THAT REVISION TO UNITS TO PROPERTIES 51 0 7 AND 51 0 9 IS GONNA IMPACT THE COMMUNITY.

AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND SPEAKER? UM, LET'S SEE IF I LOOK AT THE ORDER HERE.

OH, GO AHEAD.

UM, WANNA STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? STEEL MY SINGER.

OH, OKAY.

I'D SAY YOUR NAME.

YEAH, PLEASE PROCEED.

SURE.

UH, MY NAME'S STEEL MEISINGER WILL IS MY FIANCE, AS HE STATED WE LIVE ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH ADDITIONAL TO, TO STATE, BUT AS WILL MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THIS HAS BEEN AN EVER-CHANGING TARGET.

OUR FIRST MEETING WAS APRIL 11TH WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED THAT 51 0 5 51 0 7 51 0 9, UM, WOULD BE OWNED AND OPERATED, OPERATED BY CAPITAL A HOUSING.

AND IT WOULD BE A MIXED INCOME HOUSING GROUND FLOOR OFFICE.

AND SO THAT IS THE VERBIAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US, TO BE HONEST, NOT MUCH ELSE WAS PRESENTED ON THAT, UM, PROPERTY, BUT MORE, THE FOCUS WAS ON THE OTHER THREE UNITS WITH THE SAFE HOUSING.

THERE WAS LOTS OF DETAILS THERE.

UM, CONNOR EMAILED THE GROUP AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TEAM.

UM, THAT WAS JUST A FEW DAYS AGO WITH THE PRO CHANGING THE PROPOSAL.

WE DISCUSSED IT LAST NIGHT ON OUR CONTACT TEAM MEETING.

UM, AND THE VERBIAGE USE THEN WAS CIVIL TO MIXED OFFICE USE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING WITH 23 UNITS, 10% AFFORDABLE FOR SAFE CLIENTS VERBALLY.

UM, ALTHOUGH IT WAS NOT IN THE PRESENTATION, IT WAS STATED THAT THIS OFFICE IS NOW BEING PROPOSED AS A 60 FOOT TALL BUILDING.

UH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS TWO FLOORS OFFICE, TWO FLOORS OF THESE MIXED UNITS AS PROPOSED AND ONE FLOOR OF PARKING.

SO AGAIN, AS WELL STATED, UM, JUST REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TIME TO EVALUATE THESE AND REALLY UNDERSTAND, UM, HOW IT IMPACTS THE OTHER CHANGES WITH THE OTHER THREE LOTS AS WELL AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY.

NEXT WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, UH, MR. CONNOR, KENNY, UH, HILL COMMISSIONERS, UM, TAKEN THE, YOU KNOW, UH, POSITION OF OPPOSING A POSTPONEMENT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, USUALLY GRANTED AND THE, UM, THE REASON WHY IS THAT, UM, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THE ONLY WAY THAT IT'S CHANGED IN THE LAST OVER TWO MONTHS HAS BEEN TO SHAVE IT DOWN IN RESPONSE TO REQUESTS FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.

UM, WE DOWNGRADED OUR ZONING REQUEST FROM CS TO GR UH, THAT CUT OFF, UH, 20 POINTS OF, UH, OF BUILDING COVERAGE.

UM, THE, UH, THE TWO BUILDINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAFE, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AND THEN A MIXED USE OFFICE, UH, RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON THAT DECREASED, UH, IN RESPONSE TO A, TO A REQUEST TO SHRINK THE BUILDING.

UM, AND AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, THIS, UM, UH, ITEM HAS BEEN ON YOUR AGENDA

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UM, SO, UH, WE FELT, WE FEEL THAT ACTUALLY WE'VE, WE'VE GIVEN A LOT OF POSTPONEMENTS HERE.

UM, THERE, UH, THE ONLY NEW INFORMATION SINCE, UH, IN THE LAST MONTH HAS BEEN THAT WE REDUCED OUR ZONING ASK.

UM, AND THE, UM, UH, OUR FIRST MEETING WAS OVER FIVE MONTHS AGO WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THEN THIS, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PART OF THE, UH, THE HOMELESSNESS SUMMIT IN AUSTIN TO BUILD, UH, THOUSAND UNITS IN THREE YEARS.

UH, THE CLOCK IS TICKING ON THAT.

WE HAVE, UH, A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COUNTY AWARD THAT I'M TRYING TO, TO GO INTO NEGOTIATION MEETINGS WITH THEM TOMORROW ON, WE HAVE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CITY AWARD THAT IS SITTING AT CITY COUNCIL WAITING FOR THIS REZONING TO GO THROUGH.

UM, THERE'S A LOT THAT CASCADES FROM THIS MEETING.

UM, AND THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD, THE LAST POSTPONEMENT THAT WE HAD AT THE CONTACT TEAM, UH, WAS A REQUEST FOR MORE TIME TO, TO THINK ABOUT IT AND, AND RESEARCH.

AND THEN THERE WAS NO NEW INFORMATION AT THE LAST MEETING AND, UH, THE CONTACT TEAM AFTER THAT VOTED TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.

SO I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S REALLY MUCH NEW.

I THINK THERE'S SOME FOLKS WHO ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND I GET THAT.

UM, BUT, UH, THERE'S NO NEW INFORMATION THAT'S GONNA COME TO LIGHT HERE.

AND THIS THING HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR MONTHS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.

UM, MR. KENNY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY.

YOU HAVE SOMEONE FROM SAMPLE LINES HERE.

WE HAVE SOME ON THE PHONE, BUT, UH, OKAY.

UH, OKAY, SO COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UM, GO THROUGH OUR TYPICAL, UH, EIGHT QUESTIONS.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND GET THE ROOM UP HERE SO I CAN SEE YOUR HANDS, UH, WHO, WHO HAS THE FIRST QUESTION THERE, PUBLIC HEARING? UM, I DON'T THINK WE NEED, UH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CLOSE IT'S YEAH, NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, START WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

UH, THANK YOU, CHAIR.

AND, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHO THIS IS DIRECTED AT BECAUSE I, I I'M, UH, I'M TRYING TO RECALL.

WE DID A, WE DID A POSTPONEMENT AT THE REQUEST OF THE CONTACT TEAM.

IS THAT CORRECT? MAY, MAYBE CHAIR, YOU CAN ANSWER IT.

I AM NOT SURE.

UM, UH, YES.

APPLICANT MR. CANDY, IF YOU WANNA FILL US IN THERE, APPRECIATE IT.

UH, WE'VE HAD A COMBINATION OF STAFF POSTPONEMENTS AND SOME APPLICANT POSTPONEMENTS, UM, BUT THE LAST APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT WAS, UH, BECAUSE THE CONTACT TEAM POSTPONE FOR A MONTH AT THE REQUEST OF THE, UM, OF, UH, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE CONTACT TEAM VOICE.

SO THAT WAS, UH, I THINK REGISTERED AS ONE OF OURS, BUT WE WERE READY TO GO LAST MONTH O OKAY.

THAT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL.

SO WE, WE HAVE NOT HAD A, A POSTPONEMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? JOY, HARD HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I'LL JUST SAY, UH, JOY HARD HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NOT REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT, UH, UNTIL NOW, IS THAT UNTIL TODAY? THIS IS THE END REQUEST.

THIS IS THE FIRST, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S FIRST POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER SNYDER? I, I DO NOT.

YES, CHAIR, UH, JUST A QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

IF THE COMMISSION DOES TAKE THIS UP TONIGHT, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO, TO PASS THE TWO ITEMS? IS THAT A SUPER MAJORITY JOY HARDEN? UM, A SUPER MAJORITY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED.

JUST A MAJORITY.

SO IF THERE'S EIGHT, YOU WOULD NEED SEVEN, SEVEN VOTE.

MM-HMM , UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT THEN MR. C, ARE YOU OKAY.

ADJUSTING CASE DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S GONNA GO YOUR WAY.

JUST, UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR THE MERITS OF THE CASE AND IF A COMMISSIONER WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION FOR POSTPONEMENT AT THAT TIME FEELING THAT THERE IS MORE INFORMATION FAIR, PERHAPS THAT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE.

EXCEPT FOR ME, I WAS JUST

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I WOULD, UH, LET'S SEE.

I HAVE ONE, UM, I GUESS, UH, WAS IT MR. MR. HEATHCOTT? YES, I, SO THE, UM, I GUESS OCTOBER 11TH, UH, THAT'S A MONTH, WOULD TWO WEEKS NOT BE ADEQUATE, UM, TO KIND OF, TO GET YOUR, THE PLANNING, THE CONTACT TEAM TOGETHER, AND MAYBE DISCUSS THE CHANGES THAT YOU THINK WERE MADE.

YES, SIR.

I MEAN, UM, ANYTIME WOULD HELP IF, I MEAN, I CERTAINLY THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF PARTIES INVOLVED.

UH, MOST OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE NO, IT'S, IT'S A IT'S APARTMENT IS NEXT TO THESE DEVELOPING COMMUNITIES.

SO, UM, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF PARTIES INVOLVED.

UM, IF, IF OCTOBER 11TH, THAT IS CERTAINLY OUR ASK.

IF, IF THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE, THEN, THEN CERTAINLY ANY TIME, ANY MORE TIME WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE AS IT, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S EVERYONE'S PERCEPTION, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY OUR PERCEPTION FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS INFORMATION ABOUT 51 0 7 AND 51 0 9, UM, WAS JUST DISCLOSED YESTERDAY, UM, TO THE DEGREE THAT IT WAS.

SO, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT THAT, THAT A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO ASK AND A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO, TO COLLECT AND, AND, AND DISCUSS THIS WITH.

AND I, I APOLOGIZE TRYING TO GET MYSELF ORGANIZED.

ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE CONTACT TEAM? YES, SIR.

THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE CONTACT TEAM.

WELL, I, I HAD MY THIRD, I HAD MY THIRD MEETING YESTERDAY.

UM, AND WHO, WHO ARE THE, UM, WHO ARE THE MAIN, WHO'S THE CHAIR AND THE VICE OR THE, THE MAIN REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CONTACT TEAM THERE? RODNEY IS THE CHAIR.

UM, THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS I CAN SPEAK.

UM, AND, UH, MR. KENNY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO WOULD TWO WEEKS, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT CASE, AS YOU SAID, IT'S, IT'S BEING QUEUED UP FOR APPROVAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I GUESS THE COUNTY AS WELL, DON'T WANNA PUT ANY OF THAT AT RISK, BUT IT'S TWO WEEKS.

UM, GRANTED WE DO HAVE A BUSY AGENDA, UM, BUT IS TWO WEEKS, UM, A, A SAFE TIME PERIOD FOR YOU, OR IS IT STILL PUTTING IT SOMEWHAT AT RISK? UH, IT WOULD CAUSE CASCADING DELAYS.

UM, BUT I JUST, I WANNA BE CLEAR THAT, UH, UM, THE SPEAKER DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE CONTACT TEAM, THAT THE CONTACT TEAM APPROVED AND RECOMMENDS THIS CASE AND MADE THAT VOTE LAST NIGHT.

SO THE CONTACT TEAM IS NOT REQUESTING A POST MOMENT.

THE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION IS NOT POST REQUESTING A POSTPONE.

THERE ARE ONE OR TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE REQUESTED A POSTPONE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

ALL RIGHT, I'M FINISHED.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UM, I'M GONNA GO.

AND, UH, BUD CHAIR, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION? OH, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION.

TO DENY POSTPONEMENT AND HEAR THE CASE TONIGHT.

UM, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE, UH, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION THAT SURE.

DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION? SURE.

UM, JUST REALLY BRIEF.

I, I, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CONTACT TEAM HEARD THE, UM, FROM THE DEVELOPER LAST NIGHT AND EVEN SENT A LETTER, WHICH IS IN OUR BACKUP.

UM, AND I I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE AS, AS MR. KENNY SAID, IF THERE'S NEW INFORMATION WE CAN CHOOSE TO POSTPONE IT.

UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S VALID TO HEAR IT TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE, THE TIMELINES FOR SOME OF THE FINANCIAL, UM, ASSISTANCE ON THE HOUSING.

I I'LL JUST ECHO WHAT BYRE HEMPLE WAS SAYING.

UH, ANYONE SPEAKING AGAINST THIS MOTION SPEAK IN FAVOR COMMISS DESAR.

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I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND LISTEN TO THE CASE TODAY.

WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND LISTEN TO IT AND, UM, THEN SEE FROM THERE, IF IT DOES SEEM LIKE THERE'S A NEED FOR POSTPONE, WE CAN DO SO, BUT WE DO HAVE SUPPORT RIGHT NOW FROM THE CONTACT TEAM.

WE HAVE A CLEAR LETTER THAT WAS SHARED TO A, OR SHARED WITH US AGAIN, SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IN BACKUP AS WELL.

AND IN ADDITION, I DO WANNA POINT OUT, I THINK THE CHALLENGES AROUND FINANCING, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME SUCH A CASE HAS COME BEFORE US.

IT IS SOMETHING TRUE.

AND THE LONGER WE HAVE POSTPONEMENTS HERE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY STOPPING COUNCIL FROM HAVING THE ABILITY TO POSTPONE IF NEEDED ON THEIR END.

SO IN SOME WAYS IT MAKES SENSE IF WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE FEEL GENERALLY OKAY WITH IN SUPPORTING, THEN WE SHOULD FORWARD IT TO COUNCIL AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE AND ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION AS NECESSARY.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

ANY MORE SPEAKERS? UH, AGAINST OR FOUR.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION TO DENY POSTPONEMENT.

AND THAT WILL MEAN WE'LL HEAR THIS ITEMS B TWO AND B3, THIS CV, UM, THOSE ON THE DIAS IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

THAT'S EVERY ONE OF THOSE, UH, VIRTUALLY PLEASE SHOW ME YOUR CARDS AND I'M SEEING ALL GREEN.

SO THAT'S, UH, EIGHT ZERO.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA GO AND TAPE THAT ITEM UP NEXT.

THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY IS TO PROVIDE 60 RESIDENTIAL USES AND SUPPORT SERVICES FOR SAFE ALLIANCE AND ORGANIZATION THAT SERVES FAMILIES FLEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR SEXUAL ASSAULT.

SO, UM, MOVING AHEAD HERE WITH ITEM TWO AND THREE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO AND HEAR STAFF GIVES, GIVE US, UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THOSE ITEMS TOGETHER AND WE'LL START WITH STAFF GIVING US, UH, OVERVIEW OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE REZONING.

WE RE MEREDITH HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT ITEM.

NUMBER TWO IS PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 2 3 0.0 ONE.SH.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 51 0 7 51 0 9 51, 11 51, 13 AND 51 50 LANCASTER COURT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE UNIVERSITY HILLS WINDSOR PARK NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA.

THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE OFFICE TO MIXED USE LAND USE.

HOWEVER, THERE IS OPPOSITE OPPOSITION AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THESE STAFF REPORTS.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, HEATHER CHAFFIN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITH THE ZONING REQUEST, WHICH IS TO GO FROM N O M U N P AND MF THREE NP.

UH, THOSE SAME ADDRESSES THAT MAUREEN JUST LISTED THE COMBINED PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 0.787 ACRES.

THE RE RECOMMENDATION IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.

AND I BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS G R M U V C O N P.

AND THIS IS THE AMENDED REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT.

THEY ARE, UH, PROPOSING TO HAVE A MINIMUM FIVE FOOT REAR YARD AND SIDE YARD SETBACK.

CURRENTLY THOSE SETBACKS ARE ZERO.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE ONE, A VERY LONG LIST OF PROHIBITED USES.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ONLY KEEP USES THAT ARE ALREADY ALLOWED IN MF THREE OR NO CATEGORIES.

SO ANYTHING OF THE COMMERCIAL NATURE, MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED INNO, UH, IS PROHIBITED.

AND ON THE ISSUE SECTION AGAIN, THIS WAS INITIALLY FOR CSV N P AND HAS BEEN AMENDED, UM, THE PROPERTIES AT THE SOUTH SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF LANCASTER COURT AND EAST 52ND STREET, UH, EXISTING LAND USES INCLUDE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND SINGLE FAMILY.

RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST SOUTHEAST OUR PROPERTIES ZONED MF TWO AND G R M U V C O N P THAT ARE DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY.

RESIDENTIAL USES ACROSS THE INTERSECTION OF LANCASTER IN 57TH, 52ND TO THE NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST ARE PROPERTY ZONED, L O N P AND MF TWO C O N P THAT ARE DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ACROSS LANCASTER COURT TO THE WEST AND SOUTHWEST AND NORTHEAST NORTHWEST, SORRY, OUR PROPERTY ZONED, N O M U N P MF TWO N P L O N P MF TWO C O N P.

AND, UH, FACING EAST 51ST STREET.

THERE'S A, UH, PROPERTY ALSO ZONED G M U V C O N P.

THESE ARE A MIX OF USES THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY AND UNDEVELOPED PARCELS.

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THE SITE WILL ALSO INCLUDE A SEPARATE MIXED USE BUILDING WITH APPROXIMATELY 23 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICES.

UH, THE SAFE ALLIANCE FACILITY AND OVERALL PROJECT WILL BE A SMART HOUSING PROJECT.

STAFF SUPPORTS THE REQUEST.

THERE'S A MIX OF ZONING IN THE AREA.

THERE IS MULTI-FAMILY IN THE AREA.

THERE ARE OFFICES IN SIMILAR USES IN THE AREA.

UM, ADDITIONALLY PROVIDING A FACILITY FOR SAFE ALLIANCE IS A COMMUNITY SERVICE I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

AND LET ME GET MY SPEAKER LIST UP HERE.

UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO, OH, YES, PLEASE.

UM, MR. CANDY, GO AHEAD AND START US OFF ON YOUR FIVE MINUTES.

UM, PLEASE.

GREAT.

UM, SO THIS PROJECT, UH, WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT, UM, THIS IS ONE THAT, UH, WE ARE DEVELOPING OURSELVES FOR, UH, AS A FEE DEVELOPER FOR THE SAFE ALLIANCE.

AND, UH, FOR OF VALITUDE IS PART OF THE TRAVIS COUNTY SUPPORTIVE HOUSING COLLABORATIVE, WHICH IS OUR SEVEN PROJECTS WE'RE DEVELOPING FOR SEVEN NONPROFITS IN THE COUNTY, UH, TO DEVELOP A TOTAL OF 480, UH, UNITS ONSITE OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE.

UM, GONNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO IT IS A, UH, IT'S A MIXED DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, IT'S TWO BUILDINGS ON ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT SHARES STORM WATER PARKING DRIVES, ET CETERA.

UH, BOTH THE SAFE ALLIANCE AND THE CIVIL TWO BUILDING ARE ABOUT 65 FEET SAFE ALLIANCE.

UH, BUILDING IS 60 UNITS MIXED BETWEEN, UM, STUDIOS, ONES AND TWOS.

UH, UH, SO IT IS, UH, DESIGNED REALLY FOR, UM, WHILE THERE ARE MALE VICTIMS OF, OF, UH, OF ABUSE.

UH, IT'S PRIMARILY, UH, UH, WOMEN WITH CHILDREN FLEEING, UH, VIOLENCE SITUATIONS ARE COMING OUT OF, UH, OUT OF SHELTERS.

UM, THERE WILL BE ONSITE SUPPORT SERVICES.

THIS HAS BEEN A CUSTOM DESIGN TRAUMA INFORMED ARCHITECTURE, UH, UH, BUILDING FOR SAFE ALLIANCE.

UM, IT'S, UH, NEARLY A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED, WHICH IS AMAZING.

UH, IT IS, UH, GONNA BE DEBT FREE.

UH, SOON AS WE FINISH IT, WE'RE HANDING THE KEYS OVER TO SAFE ALLIANCE AND THEY WILL OWN AND OPERATE IT FOREVER.

UH, IT'S BEEN A REAL EFFORT THAT, UH, WE HAVE HAD PRIVATE, PHILANTHROPIC, UH, INTEREST THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ALL RALLYING TOGETHER TO FUND THIS THING.

AND IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO FUND PSSH, UH, WITHOUT DEBT BECAUSE IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE TO RUN.

AND THE MORE YOU'RE BUILDING HAS A DEFICIT, THE MORE YOU'RE DEPENDENT ON SERVICE CONTRACTS, WHICH ARE OFTEN HARD TO GET FROM THE CITY OR DON'T INCREASE WITH INFLATION.

SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SET THIS PROJECT UP FOR FINANCIAL SUCCESS.

UH, THE REASON THE CIVIL TWO BUILDING IS ON HERE IS THAT THE DEVELOPERS WHO OWNED THE, THE LOT IN THE MIDDLE OF WHERE WE WANNA PUT THE SAFE BUILDING WOULD NOT SELL US THAT LOT.

AND THEY WOULD ONLY TRADE US FOR THE LOT THAT OUR OFFICE IS CURRENTLY ON ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, SO WE MADE THAT SWAP AND, UH, OUR, UH, ARRANGEMENT WITH THE SAFE ALLIANCE IS THAT WE ARE THEN COMING AND REBUILDING OUR OFFICE ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, WE ARE SHARING FACILITIES.

WE ARE, UH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM FOR PARKING FOR SAFE ALLIANCE.

UM, SO WE ARE, UH, TRYING TO INCORPORATE MORE PARKING ONTO THERE.

UH, AND THEN WE GET EFFICIENCIES FROM STORM WATER AND WHATNOT.

UM, UH, THREE OF THE UNITS, 10%, UM, WILL BE RESERVED FOR HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS FOR, UH, FROM THE, UH, SAFE, UH, UNIVERSE THERE SO THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY, MAYBE THEY DON'T NEED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, BUT THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING THOSE SERVICES NEXT DOOR.

UH, THEY CAN GO INTO THOSE.

UM, SO 83 UNITS TOTAL 75% WILL BE HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE, 20 MARKET RATE, AND, UH, TWO FLOORS OF OFFICE.

UM, SO THIS IS THE PART OF WINDSOR PARK.

AND THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THAT YOU SEE THE BLUE LINE, THAT'S THE TANA HILL BRANCH CREEK.

UM, AND, UH, WE CAN GO NEXT SLIDE, UM, THE LOCATION AGAIN, AND YOU'LL SEE, IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S LIKE FIVE DOORS DOWN FROM, AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM MILLER OR NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THIS IS THE AERIAL VIEW.

NEXT SLIDE, UM, SAFE ALLIANCE.

WE ACTUALLY GAVE FIRST CHOICE OF THE SEVEN SITES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, AND THEY REALLY WANTED THIS ONE, UH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS TO TRANSIT.

THE ENTIRE BLOCK THAT YOU SEE TO THE WEST HAS BEEN VACATED EXCEPT FOR, I THINK, ONE PROPERTY.

AND IT IS GETTING A MASSIVE REDEVELOPMENT.

THAT IS, I THINK, ALL MARKET RATE, THERE'S A GROCERY STORE GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET, UM, UH, AS WELL AS A PARK AND A PARKLAND DEDICATION, THAT SHOULD BE ABOUT AN ACRE.

UM, SO IT'S REALLY AN AMENITY RICH AND SERVICE RICH LOCATION.

IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS CORNER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS TREATED PRETTY DIFFERENTLY FROM THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THIS

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AND SO THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS THE ZONING IN THE AREA.

AND, UM, SO THE ENTIRETY OF THE 51ST STREET CORRIDOR WITH SOME PROPERTIES THAT WRAP AROUND, UH, ARE ALL PRETTY MUCH JOAN G UH, ZONE GR M U V, WHICH IS THE SAME, UH, ZONING THAT WE ARE REQUESTING.

UM, THIS WOULD ESSENTIALLY CONTINUE THAT AROUND, UH, THE CORNER THROUGH LANCASTER, NEXT SLIDE ZOOMED IN A LITTLE BIT.

UM, SO YOU SEE OTHER GRM, U V UH, PROPERTIES.

UM, THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR IS GETTING REDEVELOPED.

UM, HERE'S A HEIGHT MAP.

SO TWO OF THE LOTS ARE CURRENTLY ZONED FOR 40 FEET, THREE OF THEM FOR 35 FEET.

UM, BUT, UH, WHAT THAT DOES MEAN BECAUSE THIS IS AN AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROJECT, IS THAT, UH, WE CAN GO TO 60 FEET AND 52 AND A HALF FEET NOW.

AND, UM, WHILE I, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND SYMPATHIZE THE OPPOSITION THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM SOME NEIGHBORS HAS BEEN ABOUT BUILDING A 60 FOOT BUILDING RIGHT THERE, AND YOU CAN ALREADY BUILD A 60 FOOT BUILDING THERE.

THE REZONING THAT WE ARE SEEKING IS GONNA GIVE US ABOUT 10 FEET OF ADDITIONAL HEIGHT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN EIGHT FOOT CEILINGS, UH, AND THE RESIDENCES, AND TO GIVE US SOME MORE BUILDING COVERAGE AND IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, WE WILL HAVE MORE FLOOR AREA, BUT THE HEIGHT AND THE SETBACKS WON'T CHANGE.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE, LAST THING THERE IS THE CO THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THERE.

I WANNA CLARIFY, UH, IT MADE INTO THE CITY IS FIVE FEET OF REAR FOOT SETBACK.

WE WANTED TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE SEEKING 10 FOOT OF REAR SETBACK SETBACK, UM, TO MATCH THE CURRENT MAXIMUM FOR MF THREE.

YOUR SUPPORT AND APPROVAL THIS PROJECT.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME, UH, SOME SPEAKERS FROM SAFE ALLIANCE ON THE PHONE.

ON THE SPEAKER LIST HERE, I HAVE GOT AARON GOODSON KITTY.

ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.

MY NAME'S AARON GOODSON.

I AM THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AT THE SAFE ALLIANCE.

UM, SAFE MISSION IS TO STOP ABUSE FOR EVERYONE, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL IN STOPPING ABUSE CAUSE WE CAN'T ALSO END HOMELESSNESS AND WE'RE NEVER GONNA END HOMELESSNESS IF WE DO NOT STOP ABUSE, UH, THEY CREATE A REALLY VICIOUS CYCLE THAT IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO ESCAPE.

UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING AT SAFE FOR 20 YEARS, UM, ON THE INTERSECTIONS OF HOMELESSNESS AND ABUSE, AND WE'VE SEEN WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION AND ALSO LOCALLY IN THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, A REALLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN INVESTMENT AND EXPANSION OF HOMELESS RESPONSE PROGRAMS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND YET WE'RE STILL SEEING THAT THE COUNTS OF THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE GOING UP BEING MORE AND MORE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES ARE BEING PUSHED INTO HOMELESSNESS BY ROUTE RISING HOUSING COSTS THAT NOBODY CAN KEEP PACE WITH AS WELL AS THE CYCLE OF ABUSE.

UM, IN 2022, WE'VE SEEN THE DEMAND FOR SURVIVOR HOUSEHOLDS.

THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO FLEE ABUSE AND ARE BECOMING HOMELESS FOR THE FIRST TIME, TRIPLE IN 2022, OVER 2021.

UM, AND AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH A LOT OF COLLABORATION WITH ECHO AND THE LOCAL HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, IS THAT THE MOST VULNERABLE NUMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, THOSE WHO ARE LIVING UNSHELTERED AND ON THE STREETS, UM, ARE REALLY DISPROPORTIONATELY.

THOSE WHO ARE LIVING WITH A DISABILITY WHO HAVE BEEN LONG, WHO HAVE BEEN HOMELESS AND UNSHELTERED FOR THE LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME AND MORE THAN 50% OF THOSE FOLKS IDENTIFY AS SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND REPORT THAT THEY'VE BEEN THE VICTIM OF A RECENT ATTACK.

SO THE LONGER WE DO THIS WORK, THE MORE WE LEARN, THE MORE WE KNOW THAT THIS TYPE OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS SO NECESSARY TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE IN THE MOST DANGER IN OUR COMMUNITY TO GET SAFE, SAFE, AND STAY SAFE.

UH, WE RECOGNIZE THAT FOLKS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WHO HAVE THESE TYPES OF BARRIERS WHERE FLEEING ABUSE NEED LOW OR NO BARRIER HOUSING, THAT IS ALSO VERY HIGH QUALITY.

UM, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THE PROPOSAL FOR THE LANCASTER BECAUSE IT IS WELL DESIGNED IN CONSULTATION WITH SURVIVORS, UM, TO BE TRAUMA INFORMED AND TO BE SAFE.

AND IT IS PLANNED TO BE VERY WELL STAFFED BECAUSE IT IS OUR MISSION TO ENSURE THAT WE HELP INDIVIDUALS LEAVE HOMELESSNESS, LEAVE ABUSE, ESTABLISH THEIR OWN SAFE HOME IN A SAFE BUILDING, IN A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD, IN A SAFE COMMUNITY, AND THEN HAVE ACCESS TO A RANGE OF SUPPORT SERVICES TO HELP THEM KEEP THAT HOUSING AND STAY SAFE.

UM, WE WILL BE EXCEEDINGLY GRATEFUL FOR

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AND UNCOMPROMISINGLY COMPASSIONATE.

UM, WE HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER IN FAVOR AND, UM, CORRECT ME IF I GET THIS WRONG.

IS IT LISA? IS IT, UH, POST LISA, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE LISA.

HEY, HI, I'M LISA POSE.

SPEAKING WITH THE LANCASTER PROJECT, THE SAFE, I CALL MYSELF A SURVIVOR EXTRAORDINAIRE LIKE TOO MANY OF US AND NOT ENOUGH OF US.

I'M A PROUD SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING RIGHT HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

I CAME TO SAFE IN 2006 WITH ONE OF MY THREE CHILDREN.

HE STOLE THE OTHER TWO FROM SCHOOL AND I WOULD SPEND YEARS WORKING TO GET THEM TO SAFETY, TOO.

SOMETHING I COULD NOT HAVE DONE WITHOUT HOUSING AND SUPPORT.

I KNEW IF I WENT BACK, I WOULD DIE.

MY KIDS WOULD'VE WATCHED ME DIE FOR US.

WAITING MEANS DYING.

IT MEANS LOSING OUR KIDS.

IT MEANS LOSING OUR MINDS, LOSING OURSELF.

I AM TOLD I, I AM ONE, A 4% THAT MAKE IT AFTER ALL THAT HARDSHIP AND LOSS OF SELF, SHOW ME A HOMELESS WOMAN.

AND I WILL SHOW YOU A RAPE SURVIVOR.

HOMELESSNESS IS A PROMISE OF LAYERS OF HARM AND TRAUMA.

I WON THE LOTTERY.

I SPENT TWO YEARS IN SUPPORT OF HOUSING WAS SAFE.

AND THEN I WON ANOTHER LOTTERY OF 10 YEARS IN SECTION EIGHT.

I NEEDED THAT TIME.

I NEEDED ALL THAT TIME TO HEAL, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO LIVE DIFFERENTLY, TO LEARN LIFE SKILLS, TO GO THROUGH COURT.

I JUST, I NEEDED EVERYTHING.

SELF HELP SAFE, HELPED ME SAVE MY LIFE AND THE LIVES OF MY CHILDREN.

CAN YOU IMAGINE ENTERING A LOTTERY THAT WILL DECIDE IF YOU CAN SURVIVE, ENTERING A LOTTERY TO SEE IF YOUR KIDS WILL SURVIVE.

WE CLEARLY NEED MORE HOUSING.

I WORK WITH SURVIVORS NOW AND ALMOST EVERY DAY.

I'M HELPING SOMEONE ELSE GO HOMELESS.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I CAN KEEP DOING THAT.

I'M PRETTY STRONG AND IT'S STILL REALLY ROUGH.

I NEEDED THAT TIME TO RECOVER FROM 37 YEARS OF LAYERED VIOLENCE AND TRAUMA AND THE MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES IT GAVE ME AND MY CHILDREN.

I NEEDED THAT TIME FOR THE THERAPY, THE LIFE SKILL BUILDING, THE HELP AND ADVOCATING FOR MY DAUGHTER WITH SCHIZOAFFECTIVE DAUGHTER WAS SCHEDULED EFFECTIVE DISORDER AND CUSTODY COURT.

EVENTUALLY I WAS ABLE TO GET EDUCATION AND ENTER THE WORKFORCE AT LIVABLE WAGES ALL WHILE IN SUPPORT, ONE OF 4% FREQUENT FLYER, PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY CALLED ME.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS.

RECOVERY IS POSSIBLE.

IT'S EVEN PROBABLE WHEN GIVEN THE ACCESS TO BASIC NEEDS, TIME HEALING OPPORTUNITIES AND OUR LEVEL AND TIMEFRAME.

TODAY, I HAVE WORKED MY WAY OFF OF SSI OUT OF SECTION EIGHT.

AND I AM A HOMEOWNER AS A SINGLE WOMAN, AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE, SEVERAL OF MY FRIENDS AND COWORKERS OR FORMER RESIDENTS ARE SAFE AND WE ARE SUCCESSFULLY TAKING OUR LIVES BACK.

SOME MIGHT EVEN CALL IT THRIVING.

I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT WITHOUT SAFE.

I REALLY COULDN'T HAVE, I WAS A DEAD WOMAN WALKING.

IF I WENT BACK, I WOULD KILL MYSELF WHERE HE WAS GOING TO KILL ME.

THERE WAS JUST NO LIFE LIVING LIKE THAT.

A PLACE SAFE WAS DIFFERENT THOUGH.

I WAS IN AND OUT OF SERVICES.

MY WHOLE LIFE SAFE WAS, UM, PERSON-CENTERED AND STRENGTH BASED.

THEY BELIEVED IN ME WHEN I COULDN'T, I'M SORRY.

I'M A LITTLE EMOTIONAL.

WELL, NOW I HAVE HOUSING.

I HAVE A HOME AND MY CHILDREN DON'T HAVE TO GO HOMELESS.

I'VE ALREADY HELPED.

TWO OF THEM NOT BE HOMELESS THROUGH THE PANDEMIC AND HELP THEM BACK INTO THEIR OWN HOUSING DREAMS IN THEIR OWN LIVES.

ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS EVEN WANTS TO MOVE INTO HER CAR AFTER GRADUATING COLLEGE.

AND YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW SCARY THAT IS FOR ME AS A FORMER HOMELESS PERSON.

EXCUSE ME.

I DON'T HAVE TO BE AFRAID.

UM, GO AHEAD AND WRAP, UH, CONCLUDES YOUR THOUGHTS, THE BUZZER RING.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU COULD HEAR IT THOUGH.

I DEFINITELY COULDN'T HEAR IT PLEASE.

UM, I BEG YOU, IF YOU BELIEVE IN LIFE, IF YOU BELIEVE IN HOPE YOU HAVE CHOICES TODAY, I HOPE YOU CHOOSE LIFE.

I HOPE YOU CHOOSE LANCASTER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, HOWARD, DO YOU WANNA GO AND JUST, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THESE TWO ITEMS ITEMS TWO AND THREE.

UH, QUICK, UM, HOUSEKEEPING ITEM HERE.

UH, POINT OF ORDER.

UM, LET ME GO BACK TO THE ROOM HERE.

UM, COMMISSIONER,

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YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

MY, UH, MY ORGANIZATION'S, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, THE TEAM, UH, TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, IDEALLY.

SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF.

WE FORTUNATELY COMMISSIONER MU CHILDER IS HERE.

SO WE DO HAVE RETAINED OUR NUMBER OF EIGHT.

SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.

UH, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

UM, LET'S GO AND CONTINUE.

UM, SO THOSE ARE THE SPEAKERS IN, OH, ACTUALLY, HOLD ON.

I HAVE A ANO OH, SEVERAL SPEAKERS IN FAVOR.

UM, ARE WE TAKING THESE BY THE ORDER? I GUESS WE SHOULD GO BY THE ORDER ON THE SCREEN.

I THINK ANDREW HAD A REASON FOR DOING THAT.

LET'S GO.

AND, UH, NEXT ON THE LIST IS STILL MY SINKER SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE IS ZERO TRANSITION FROM THE PROPOSED BUILDING TO OUR HOUSING ON TOP OF THAT, UM, WITH THIS PROPOSED ZONING, THIS BUILDING COULD BE A 30 FEET TALLER, A 90 FOOT TALL BUILDING NEXT TO OUR ONE STORY FOOT HOMES.

FIVE MINUTES.

ARE YOU THE MAIN? OKAY, THANK YOU.

DID YOU HAVE MY PRESENTATION? THANK YOU.

GREAT.

UH, GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, MY NAME IS STEEL MEISINGER AND I LIVE AT 1306 EAST 52ND STREET ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED REZONING DEVELOPMENT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, I AM HERE WITH A FEW OF MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS TO REPRESENT THE HOMEOWNERS ON 52ND STREET AND LANCASTER COURT.

UM, IN SUMMARY, WE OPPOSE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, UH, WHILE WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR BELOVED CITY.

UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S JUST THE SHEER SCALE OF THIS PROJECT THAT WE OPPOSE.

UM, AND IN SUMMARY, WE, YOU KNOW, OPPOSE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN ZONING PRINCIPLES.

SECOND, THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE BUILT.

UH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING THE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD A VERSION OF THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE EXISTING HO HOUSE, UH, WITHIN THE EXISTING ZONING PARKING IN CONGESTION ARE A REAL CONCERN SHARED BY MANY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ALREADY HAVE CURRENT ISSUES WITH, EVEN WITH LIMITED HOUSING ON THESE STREETS.

UM, AND THE PROPOSED ZONING DOES NOT MEET THE COMP THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, SO AS YOU ARE LIKELY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE, BUT I'LL JUST REITERATE THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS ESTABLISHED 12 ZONING PRINCIPLES AS A GUIDE TO PRESERVE THE COMPATIBILITY OF LAND USES.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE PRINCIPLES THAT SHOULD BE USED TO EVALUATE ALL ZONING REQUEST.

SO I'LL JUST BEGIN TO WALK YOU THROUGH AND SHOW HOW THE PROPOSED REZONING DOES NOT FOLLOW THESE PRINCIP PRINCIPAL PRINCIPLES.

AND INDEED DOES NOT PRESERVE THE COMPATIBILITY OF LAND USES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, AS STATED IN THE GUIDE TO ZONING, THE PURPOSE OF ZONING IS TO CREATE COMPATIBLE LAND USES ENSURE PROPER DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS AND TO PROMOTE THE OVERALL THE PUBLIC.

GOOD.

UM, SO THIS IS THE CURRENT FLU MAP AS CONNOR HAS ALREADY SHOWN.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

BUT, UM, THIS IS WHAT WE WILL LOOK AT.

THIS IS WHAT THE FLU MAP WILL LOOK LIKE WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES.

UM, IN REFERRING BACK TO THOSE ZONING PRINCIPLES, ZONING SHOULD PROMOTE A TRANSITION BETWEEN ADJACENT AND NEARBY ZONING DISTRICTS, LAND USES AND DEVELOPMENT INTENSITIES.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THERE IS NO TRANSITION.

WE GO STRAIGHT FROM GRV M U CO AS PROPOSED TO MF TWO NP AND ACROSS THE STREET SF SIX, UM, WHICH IS WHERE WE LIVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT PROVIDES ZERO TRANSITION BETWEEN MIXED USE AND MULTIFAMILY.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, IT CREATES AN EVEN FURTHER DIVIDE AND LACK OF TRANSITION BETWEEN THE GRV AND THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, S F SIX LOTS.

SO ADDITIONALLY, AS THE ZONING PRINCIPLES STATE, THE REQUEST SHOULD NOT RESULT IN SPOT ZONING.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE PROPOSED REZONING CERTAINLY RESULTS IN SPOT ZONING.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, THIS IS A CURRENT, THIS IS A DRAWING OF A 65 FOOT BUILDING NEXT TO OUR EXISTING ONE STORY BUILDING.

UH,

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UM, AND THIS WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET TO THAT 90 FEET IF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM LEVERAGES THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED BONUS PROGRAM, WHICH THEY ARE INDEED, UM, REQUESTING.

SO THIS CERTAINLY RESULTS IN DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, WHICH IS A, UH, ZONING PRINCIPLE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND REALLY I'LL JUST SAY, AS A SURROUNDING KIND OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBOR TO THE PROPOSED BUILDING, WE PURCHASED OUR HOME WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PARCELS ACROSS THE WAY WERE ZONED TO MF TWO AND MF THREE, WHICH IS A DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT REQUEST THAN THE REQUESTED GR ZONING.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF THIS ZONING CHANGE ALLOWS FOR A 90 FOOT BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET, IT IS INDEED A TERRIBLE SHOCK FOR US AS HOMEOWNERS.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND YES, WELL, I UNDERSTAND THERE THAT HOMELESSNESS IS A HUGE ISSUE IN AUSTIN, BUT THIS IS TRULY CREATING A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE FOUND HAVE ACTUALLY FOUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES, IT MAY FORCE US TO FIND DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

UM, JUST FINAL IN CONCLUSION.

YOU KNOW, WE, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR AFFORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT'S THE SHEER SCALE OF THIS PROJECT THAT IS INCREDIBLY INAPPROPRIATE.

UM, NO ONE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A SMALLER SCALE PROJECT.

AS CONNOR MENTIONED WITH THE CURRENT, UM, ZONING, THERE IS OPTION TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MAYBE JUST NOT WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS THAT HE'S REQUESTING.

NEXT, WE HAVE, UH, JAMIE NIELSEN AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU'RE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JAMIE NIELSON AND, UH, I OWN THE I, MY PROPERTY IS AT 5 1 0 5 LANCASTER COURT.

THAT IS THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SLOT.

UM, MY OPPOSITION IS, IS, IS, IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE FACT THAT A SAFE DEVELOPMENT IS, IS FINE.

IT'S JUST THIS THE WAY THEY'RE DESIGNING THIS DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF PARKING IS A DISASTER.

SO VOTING AGAINST THE VOTING AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL AS, AS IT'S PLANNED IS NOT A VOTE AGAINST SAFE.

AND IT'S BEING COUCHED IN TERMS THAT ANY CRITICISM OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS SOMEHOW A VOTE AGAINST THE CONCEPT OF SAFE, WHICH IS IT'S A GOOD ORGANIZATION, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT IS, IS FAULTY.

UH, THE NE THIS SLIDE HERE IS OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS.

YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT IS, IS IN THE, UH, DARK HATCHER AREA AND RUNNING.

UH, NORTH SOUTH IS LANCASTER COURT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT LANCASTER COURT TERMINATES IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE OTHER BOUNDING STREET IS 52ND STREET.

IT TERMINATES IMMEDIATELY EAST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CRAMMED INTO AN AREA OF TWO DEAD ENDS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE PROBLEM IS THE SAFE BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS 60 UNITS PLANNED AND SIX STAFF MEMBERS.

AND THE ONLY PARKING AVAILABLE IS SIX IS, IS FIVE HANDICAPPED SPOTS.

THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE DESIGNED INTO THEIR BUILDING.

SO UNLESS, UNLESS THE PERSON QUALIFIES FOR HANDICAPPED PARKING, NO RESIDENTS, NO STAFF, NONE OF THEIR VISITORS CAN PARK ON SITE.

THEY GOTTA PARK ON THE STREET.

AND SAFE'S RESPONSE TO THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE'S PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION NEARBY.

THEY'LL ALL TAKE THE BUS.

THEY DON'T NEED CARS.

OH, AND BY THE WAY, BECAUSE OF OUR POPULATION OF RESIDENTS, THEY'LL NEVER GET CARS.

NOW IT'S A PERMANENT RESIDENCE, SO THEY'LL NEVER GET CARS FOREVER.

THAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR ONLY ALLOWING PROVIDING FOR FIVE HANDICAPPED SPOTS TO ACCOMMODATE A, A PROJECT THAT HAS 60 UNITS AND A HALF A DOZEN STAFF MEMBERS AND ALL THEIR GUESTS, THE PROJECT, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR TO THAT HAS 23 UNITS.

EVEN YESTERDAY AT THE CONTACT MEETING THE CIVIL TO, UH, REPRESENTATIVE AFTER MONTHS OF MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS ADMITTED.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS WE'RE GONNA HAVE.

SO THIS IS THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

HERE'S LANCASTER COURT LOOKING NORTH IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THAT BUMPER, THAT BLUE CAR IS GOING NORTH TO THE STOP SIGN.

THAT'S WHERE THAT BUILDING'S GOING TO BE.

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AND, AND TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE THAT BUILDING JUST PAST THE BLUE TRASH CAN.

THAT'S THE LATITUDE'S CURRENT LOCATION.

YOU'LL SEE THERE'S OPEN PARKING SPOTS IN THEIR PARKING LOT.

EVEN WITH OPEN PARKING SPOTS IN THEIR PARKING LOT.

YOU'VE GOT PARK CARS JAMMING THE STREET ALL THE WAY DOWN.

THOSE LITTLE SPOTS BETWEEN THE PARK CARS, THAT THOSE PARKING SPACES, THOSE ARE DRIVEWAYS.

THIS IS A TYPICAL DAY ON LANCASTER TAKEN ABOUT A WEEK AGO AT 10 22 IN THE MORNING.

IT'S A HA IF YOU, IF WITH, WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, IT'S GONNA BE HAZARDOUS TO, TO PEDESTRIANS BECAUSE THIS IS A NARROW STREET.

IT'S GONNA MAKE THIS STREET VIRTUALLY IMPASSABLE FOR MOST OF THE DAY, HAZARDOUS TO TRAFFIC HAZARDOUS, TO, TO CARS, THE BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS, TRYING TO GET ACROSS THESE INTERSECTIONS.

THE, UH, NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE, UH, LINED UP HERE IS JANE ANN PARKER FOR SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HI, THIS IS JANE ANN PARKER.

I LIVE IMMEDIATELY EAST OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT THE VERANDA AT 52ND AND INCOMPATIBLE FIVE STORY BUILDING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO OUR ONE STORY HOMES.

WE'LL CAST A PERMANENT SHADOW OVER OUR COMPLEX.

NINE OF OUR 18 RESIDENTS ARE STAUNCHLY OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT.

SIX HAVE ABS OBTAINED AND ONLY THREE HAVE EXPRESSED APPROVAL.

WE ARE LOCATED AT THE DEAD END OF 52ND STREET.

SO OUR COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR WILL BECOME MORE OF A HIDDEN ENCLAVE, A TUCKED AWAY, HIDDEN ENVIRONMENT THAT WILL BE EVEN MORE CONDUCIVE TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

WE DO HAVE A HISTORY OF VIOLENT CRIMES IN THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE SAFE PEOPLE, UH, GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS NOT.

UM, AND I HAVE SUBMITTED THREE RECENT CASES OF VIOLENT CRIMES, UH, FOR THE RECORD, SINCE FIRST LEARNING ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, THE PLAN PROVIDED PARKING SPACES HAVE GONE FROM ZERO TO FIVE.

THEN WE LEARNED THOSE FIVE WERE ALL HANDICAPPED, THEN IT WAS 12.

AND NOW I THINK IT'S 20 OR 40.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO KNOW FOR CERTAIN WILL ULTIMATELY BE DEVELOPED SINCE THE PLAN IS EVER CHANGING, EXCEPT THAT IT WILL NO DOUBT BE WOEFULLY INADEQUATE FOR 60 RESIDENTS WITH UNLIMITED FAMILY MEMBERS ALLOWED TO LIVE WITH THEM NEXT DOOR WITH 23 MORE UNITS, PLUS A YET UNKNOWN NUMBER OF OFFICES.

THE HEAVY INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND PARKING NEEDS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY CREATE AN UNTENABLE SITUATION FOR THESE TWO DEAD END STREETS TO ADDRESS A DIFFERENT ASPECT THAT HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY OFFENSIVE BEFORE EVEN RECEIVING APPROVAL FOR THEIR PLAN.

THESE DEVELOPERS SHOWED A COMPLETE LACK OF CONSIDERATION TO NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS BY CUTTING DOWN ALL OF THE LARGE TREES ON FIVE LOTS, THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS WERE SHOCKED.

IT WAS DISRESPECTFUL AT BEST AND WORST OF ALL, AN EGREGIOUS DISREGARD FOR THE MOST BASIC OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.

IT IS UNLIKELY.

WE WILL SEE ANY BENEFIT FROM HAVING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S IDENTITY SO DRAMATICALLY CHANGED BY THIS INCOMPATIBLE SPOT ZONING QUITE TO THE CONTRARY.

IT WILL CAUSE CONTINUAL PROBLEMS FOR NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS, THE RESIDENTS OF SAFE AND THE EMPLOYEES AT CIVIL TOO.

IT HAS BECOME ALL TOO CLEAR THAT THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE NO REGARD FOR THE REAL AND NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES THEY WILL CREATE FOR US.

AND THAT WE, THE NEARBY RESIDENTS WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH FOR YEARS TO COME.

ONE SECOND HERE.

I LOST MY SPEAKER LIST.

UM, NEXT WE HAVE, WHAT'S LIKE MICHELLE LYNCH SPEAKING IN FAVOR, BUT CHAIR, I THINK WE JUST HAVE ONE MORE OPPOSITION SPEAKER FOR THIS CASE.

SEE, AND THAT WOULD BE MR. HEATH CAUGHT SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION.

AND JUST POINT OF ORDER HERE, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL FOLKS LISTED, AT LEAST ON MINE HAVING FIVE MINUTES.

UM, UM, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THREE, CORRECT FOR THE, THOSE IN FAVOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER LIST LIKE I DO.

THOSE CASES WERE FOR THE CONSENT ITEM, SO THEY'RE NO LONGER, OH, I SEE.

THAT'S FOR THE OTHER CASES, THOSE

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FOR THE OTHER CASES.

UM, BUT MR. OKAY.

HEAT CO GOT LISTED SEPARATELY FOR SOME REASON, SO, BUT HE'S DONE OPPOSITIONS.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE MR. HEATHCOTT UP NEXT.

MULTI-FAMILY AND OFFICE ALREADY, UM, WAS PROBABLY THE, THE BEST PICK THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH.

HELLO AGAIN.

UM, MY NAME IS WILL HEATHCOTT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WAS, I WAS SITTING BACK THERE AND I WAS THINKING THAT IF, IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TAKE AWAY FROM THE SHARE TODAY IS THAT I REALLY HOPE THAT, UM, THAT Y'ALL KNOW THAT, THAT I STAND HERE AT LEAST VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF, OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, WE, WE JUST HEARD A GREAT TESTIMONY THAT, UM, IT WA IT WAS MOVING IT'S.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE WHAT THAT DOES FOR PEOPLE.

UM, WHAT, WHAT I'M UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS, IS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING NOTHING TO DO WITH, WE DON'T NOT PROPOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THAT OPPOSING THE IDEA THAT AS CHANGE IN ZONING IS REQUIRED TO HOUSE PEOPLE AFFORDABLY, MR. MR. KENNY HIMSELF, UM, SAID SOMETHING TO THE EXTENT THAT, THAT WITH THE EXISTING ZONING, THEY COULD BUILD 60 FEET TALL.

THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU, THEY USE AFFORDAB AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, AND THE CURRENT ZONING WILL ALLOW FOR A 60 FOOT BUILDING THAT THIS COULD, THIS, THIS COULD SERVE THE COMMUNITY VERY GOOD.

AND, AND HONESTLY, WE, WE, THE, THE CURRENT STRUCTURES THAT ARE THERE ARE, THEY'RE NOT BEAUTIFUL.

WE, WE WOULD BE SO QUICK TO LINE UP AND, AND SUPPORT A PROJECT THAT, THAT WAS BUILT APPROPRIATE TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I, I SEE THIS, IF, IF IT SEEMS LIKE IF, IF WE COULD JUST RECEIVE SOMETHING THAT IF THERE COULD BE A COMPROMISE TO, TO BUILD SOMETHING PER THE EXISTING ZONING, THE ZONING THAT WAS THERE IN PLACE FOR A REASON, YOU KNOW, WE, I THINK WE WOULD JUST SO QUICKLY TO GET IN LINE FOR IT.

UM, AS IT'S BEEN SAID MANY TIMES, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE OPPOSE IS THAT IS THE SCALE OF THIS AND, AND THE IDEA THAT IT IS A CHANGE IN ZONING IS REQUIRED TO HOUSE PEOPLE AFFORDABLY.

SO, UM, I REALLY, I THANK Y'ALL FOR, FOR COMING UP HERE AND, AND, UH, AND HEARING US OUT.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR, UM, COMING HERE THIS, THIS EVENING.

UM, AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE, IF I HAVE MY SPEAKER LIST, UH, WE'RE BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LOCATION HERE, UM, WHEN, UH, THE COUNTY EARMARKED ABOUT 50 MILLION FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR THIS, UH, THIS COLLABORATIVE OF NONPROFITS, UM, WE, UH, IMMEDIATELY STARTED LOOKING AROUND AND, AND TALKING TO, UH, UM, ALL THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPERS WE KNEW WHO WERE DEVELOPING, UH, LOTS AND, UH, TRIED TO FIND THOSE THAT WERE, THAT WERE WILLING TO, UH, HOST HOMELESSNESS HOUSING ON, UH, ON THEIR LARGE SITES.

UM, I EVENTUALLY FOUND FOUR AFTER TALKING TO DOZENS, UM, AND THEN ONE DROPPED OUT.

SO WE'RE DOWN TO THREE.

AND SO THE REMAINING SITES THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SECURE FOR THESE PROJECTS INCLUDE, UH, TWO PIECES OF CITY LAND, UM, WHICH WAS GREAT.

UH, AND THEN THIS LOT RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE, UH, WE ALREADY OWNED SOME OF THE LOTS, BUT NOT ALL THE LOTS.

UM, THE, UH, WHEN WE TALKED TO THE CONTACT TEAM LAST NIGHT, UH, WE WERE RIGHT AFTER A CASE THAT WAS TRYING TO REQUESTING MF FIVE ON BEMAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS WHERE I LIVE.

UM, AND, UH, THERE WAS A CONSENSUS AMONG THE CONTACT TEAM THAT IT WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THAT KIND OF DENSITY, BECAUSE IT DID NOT HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO TRANSIT OR SERVICES.

UM, I THINK THAT THE CONTACT TEAM VOTED TO, UH, SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE THERE'S A SENSE THAT THE 51ST STREET CORRIDOR AND, AND A HUNDRED FEET OFF IT IS, UH, IF WE ARE GOING TO BUILD HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE HOUSING IN AUSTIN, THAT IS THE KIND OF PLACE IT SHOULD GO THAT GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET FROM A NEW GROCERY STORE THAT'S COMING IN IS WHERE IT SHOULD GO.

THAT, UM, GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET FROM A NEW PARK IS WHERE IT SHOULD GO.

UM, SO, UH, THERE IS ALMOST NEVER A PERFECT PLACE FOR THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS.

UM, WE BELIEVED THAT THIS AREA BEING ALREADY ZONED FOR MULTI-STORY

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SO, UM, UH, IT IT'S, IT'S NOT PERFECT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I, I, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, UH, SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED TONIGHT, BUT IF WE, AS A COMMUNITY ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN, UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO PICK SITES AND WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

AND, UM, UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING WE COULD, WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND RESUBMIT ALL OF OUR FUNDING APPLICATIONS, BUT, UM, WE WOULD PROBABLY END UP WITH THE FIVE STORY BUILDING, UH, STILL AS WELL, UM, WITH THE SAME SETBACKS THAT, UM, WA HAD LESS BUILDING COVERAGE AND PROBABLY ONLY HAD, YOU KNOW, 30 TO 40 UNITS.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE 20 TO 30, FEWER, UM, FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN WHO, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE, UH, HAVE SUPPORT HERE.

SO, UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

UM, AND, UH, I, I KNOW THAT DUE TO THE, UH, UM, THE REDUCED, UH, NUMBER OF Y'ALL HERE TONIGHT, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, ASK THAT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ONLY LOSE, I THINK ONE OF YOU.

AND, UH, SO, UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN SUPPORT, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK FOR THAT VOTE TONIGHT.

UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER? YOU HAVE A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER AZAR, LET'S GO AND TAKE A VOTE CLOSE HEARING.

UH, THERE'S ON THE DIAS.

IT'S EVERYONE AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN.

SO THAT'S EIGHT ZERO, UH, JUST A REMINDER.

WE ONLY HAVE EIGHT, UH, LEFT.

SO, UM, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH OUR QUESTIONS.

WHO HAS THE FIRST QUESTION? ANYBODY WANNA TAKE THE FIRST QUESTION, MR. SCHNEIDER? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM, THE STAFFER FROM SAFE THERE, UH, HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS RAISED, UH, IN LETTERS AND FROM TESTIMONY THAT WE'VE HEARD, UM, UH, ABOUT THE SECURITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ABOUT CRIMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, I'M CERTAIN THAT SAFE TAKES SECURITY FOR ITS RESIDENTS.

VERY SERIOUSLY.

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT CONCERN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT SAFE IS GONNA DO TO ENSURE SECURITY FOR THEIR RESIDENTS THAT WOULD BE ERIN GOODSON, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SHE'S, SHE'S AVAILABLE.

AT TOP OF MIND, UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE BUILDING DESIGN AND WORKED WITH THE DESIGN TEAM, WHICH REALLY IMPORTANT TO US TO HAVE A SINGLE AND CONTROLLED POINT OF ENTRY TO THE BUILDING, UM, WITH LIMITED OUTDOOR SPACE AROUND THE BUILDING, TRY AND INCREASE SECURITY, UM, IN MEETINGS WITH, UM, SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOME OUR INTERNAL MEETINGS.

WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT WHERE WE MIGHT PLACE OUR SECURITY CAMERAS TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL SECURITY AND AWARENESS FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIANS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS IN AND AROUND THE BUILDING.

UM, AND WE INTEND TO HAVE 24 HOURS STAFFED AND MONITORED, UM, SECURITY AROUND ACCESS TO THE BUILDING, AND ALSO WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL SET OF EYES AND, AND CAMERAS AND BETTER LIGHTING, UM, AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY ACTUALLY WE WERE QUITE PLEASED WITH THE LOCATION.

AND, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'LL HAVE STAFF IN THEIR PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE BUILDING, UH, 24 7, CORRECT.

THANKS.

UM, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, I JUST, YOU CAN'T MAYBE SEE IT, BUT, UM, MR. KENNY RAISED HIS HAND, DO YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM? YES.

AND I HAD A QUESTION FOR HIM.

OKAY, SURE.

GREAT.

UM, I JUST KNOW THIS AREA VERY WELL.

UH, I LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY OFFICE IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, THIS BLOCK HAS HAD SOME HARD TIMES OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO.

UH, A LOT OF THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS TO THE WEST.

UH, SOME WERE CONDEMNED AND DEMOLISHED.

UH, UM, THERE WERE SOME BASICALLY SLUM LORDS THERE.

UH, THE ENTIRE BLOCK TO THE WEST HAS BEEN PURCHASED AND IS REDEVELOPING AND SOME VERY HIGH END MIXED USE, UM, IS ALSO GOING IN AROUND CAMERON.

SO, UH, THE TAIL END OF THE DAYS OF, OF THOSE, UH, BASICALLY SLUM LORDS, UM, UH, THINGS, THINGS DID GET A LITTLE ROUGH THERE.

AND, UH, BUT YOU ARE NOT GONNA RECOGNIZE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN FIVE YEARS IN TERMS OF, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE ACTUALLY A VERY QUITE GLITZY PLACE.

UM, SO

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UH, THANKS FOR THAT INFORMATION.

UM, UH, THERE WERE SOME, UH, NEIGHBORS WHO'VE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, CUTTING DOWN TREES.

IS THAT DONE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, CITY ORDINANCE? UH, YES, IT WAS.

WE HAD, UH, UH, SOMEBODY CALLED CODE COMPLIANCE ON US AND, AND THEY CAME OUT AND WE REVIEWED ALL THE, UH, ALL THE TREES AND, UH, THAT HAS BEEN CLEARED.

UM, THERE WAS, UH, SOME, UH, CONCERN RAISED THAT SINCE YOU YOURSELF STATED THAT YOU COULD CURRENTLY BUILD WITH THE EXISTING ZONING TO 60 FEET, UM, FIRST OF ALL, WHY AREN'T YOU DOING THAT? AND SECOND, IS THIS GONNA BE A 90 FOOT BUILDING? SO IT IS DEFINITELY NOT GONNA BE A 90 FOOT BUILDING, UH, THAT IS A CONSTRUCTION TYPE THAT IS NOT AFFORDABLE TO DO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GENERALLY.

UM, SO, UH, EVEN IF, IF WE ARE GIVEN LIKE 45 IN THE BASE HEIGHT WITH AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, THAT WOULD GIVE US, WE ONLY NEED LIKE 10 FEET ON, ON THE ZONING, UH, FOR THE HEIGHT.

UM, UH, SO DEFINITELY NOT A 90.

AND THEN IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S JUST THE BUILDING COVERAGE, UH, RATIO.

UM, IT'S A LARGER BUILDING, UH, SAME SETBACKS, UH, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE REAR AND SIDE.

UM, BUT IT WOULD, THAT WOULD JUST CUT OUR, OUR CAPACITY BY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HALF ON THE, UH, ON THE SAFE ALLIANCE BUILDING, UH, UNDER THAT ZONING.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER MUTO.

I APOLOGIZE.

I MISSED THE STAFF BRIEFING, AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHO TO DIRECT MY QUESTION TO.

I WENT BACK THROUGH THE BACKUP MATERIAL, TRYING TO FIND THE ANSWERS BEFORE ASKING.

SO I'M GONNA TAG ON, UM, THE QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IS HAPPENING BETWEEN THE CURRENT ZONING AS IT'S EXISTING AND THE REQUESTED CHANGE, UM, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION, THE CONCERN WAS ABOUT PARKING.

SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BEFORE AND AFTER.

IF WE APPROVE THIS ZONING CHANGE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DIFFERENCE MEANS YOU'RE GETTING MORE UNITS AVAILABLE FOR HOUSING, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT IT STRUCTURALLY LOOKS LIKE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I WAS HOPING WE COULD RE-REVIEW THAT BRIEFLY.

THANK YOU, HEATHER CHAFFIN, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, FOR EXAMPLE, RELATED TO AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, THOSE ARE NOT AFFECTED, UH, THESE Z ZONING CHANGE IS NOT WHAT, UH, ALLOWS THEM TO REDUCE PARKING, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THAT'S THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY PART OF WHAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND PRESENTED THE, WHAT THE AMENDED APPLICATION TO GO DOWN TO G M U V C O N P.

THE LAND USES ARE ONLY LAND USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN MF THREE OR NO.

THEY ELIMINATED ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL GR AUTOMOTIVE, THAT KIND OF THING, UH, CON CORRECTED ON THE SETBACK, THE SETBACKS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING MATCH MF THREE SETBACKS PER THE ZONING REGARDING WHETHER OR NOT THEY UTILIZE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

SO CURRENTLY INTERIOR SIDE YARD IS FIVE FEET IN MF, THREE AND O M U, AND THAT'S STAYING THE SAME.

AND THEN THE REAR YARD IS 10 FEET IN MF, THREE AND FIVE FEET IN OMU.

SO THEY'RE INCREASING IT.

SO THAT IT'S 10 FEET FOR BOTH ZONING CATEGORIES.

UM, AGAIN, REGARDING HOW THEY DEVELOP IT WITH, UH, AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, AREN'T HOUSING, UH, PROGRAMS. I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THE PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE ACTUAL ZONING ORDINANCE.

IS 55% IN MF, THREE 35% IN O M U.

SO HEATHER, WHEN, IF WE APPROVE THIS CHANGE, WHAT, WHAT PHYSICALLY ARE WE ENABLING THEM TO DO THAT THEY CAN'T DO UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING? UH, LET'S SEE.

SO CURRENTLY AGAIN, IT'S, THE PROPERTY HAS TWO DIFFERENT ZONINGS MM-HMM MF THREE, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M JUST GONNA PICK OUT SOME OF THE THINGS, NOT NECESSARILY EVERY ONE OF 'EM.

UM, THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR MF THREE IS 40 FEET FOR O M U IT'S, 35 FEET.

UH, THIS WOULD LET THEM ACHIEVE 60 FEET BY ZONING.

UM, MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE, UH,

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AND SINCE THEY'RE USING GR IT WOULD BE 75%.

IT'S NOT A CHANGE FROM GR IT'S JUST THE, THE REGULAR GR UM, IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, 65% MF, 360%, AND OM, U M P AND THEN, UH, 90% FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING.

UM, AND THEN I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS GOES TO YOU OR THE APPLICANT, ARE THEY GOING TO NEED ALL OF THAT IN THEIR, IN THEIR SITE PLAN? YEAH, I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO CONNOR.

SURE.

UM, WE ARE, WE, WE LOOKED AT DROPPING DOWN TO 85% ON THE IMPERVIOUS COVER, BUT IT STARTS, IT STARTS GETTING PRETTY TIGHT.

UM, AND, UH, UH, IT'S WITHIN LIKE A POINT OF WHAT WE WOULD NEED FOR THE, UH, FOR THE SAFE ALLIANCE BUILDING.

SO THIS WAS THE, THE LEAST INTENSE ZONE THAT WE COULD BUMP UP TO, UH, AND MAKE THE, UH, MAKE THE BUILDING WORK AND NOT LOSE ANY OF THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS.

UM, AND THEN ON THE PARKING, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, SO SAFE ALLIANCE OPERATES, UH, BUILDINGS WITH THE SAME CLIENT PROFILE RIGHT NOW.

UH, AND THEIR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT, UH, THEY ARE ALMOST UNIFORMLY WITHIN, WITHOUT CARS.

THESE ARE, UH, PEOPLE IN PRETTY DEEP POVERTY.

UH, SO THERE'S SOME STAFF PARKING, UH, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING TO TRY AND INCORPORATE ONTO OUR SIDE AND, AND TO, I DUNNO, LEASE BACK TO THEM OR DONATE TO THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THEN ON THE, UH, SOLITUDE SIDE, PART OF THE REASON FOR GOING FOR A MIXED USE CONFIGURATION RATHER THAN LIKE A ALL OFFICE BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS TO GET SOME EFFICIENCY WITH THE PARKING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OFFICE WORKERS LEAVE AND COME BACK AND THEY CAN SHARE SOME PARKING SPOTS.

SO, UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, ONE FULL STORY OF PARKING DECK AND THEN, UH, AN ADDITIONAL STORY BELOW GRADE.

UM, THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR THAT ROUND.

UH WHO'S ANY QUESTIONS, ANYONE ELSE, COMMISSIONER COX APOLOGIES THAT SOME OF THIS IS REPETITIVE.

I'M TRYING TO, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES TO THIS.

UM, SO THE MAIN BENEFIT TO THIS CHANGE IN ZONING IS LARGELY AN IMPERVIOUS COVER.

ONE.

IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? UH, THAT COULD, I GUESS, GO TO THE APPLICANT, UM, HEATHER CHAFFIN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, I'D SAY THE MAIN DIFFERENCES ARE THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND THE IMPERVIOUS COVER.

UM, ALSO THE BUILDING COVERAGE.

SO JUST TO GO BACK ON THAT ON MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVER, MF THREE IS ALLOWED 65.

NO, NO, NO, I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I GUESS, I GUESS FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, OKAY.

I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE HEARD SOMETHING AROUND 60 FEET IN HEIGHT ANYWAYS, SO, SO CAN, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHT AND, AND IF IT IS AROUND 60 FEET THEN IS, IS, IS THE SONY CHANGE REALLY JUST AN IMPERVIOUS COVER ONE, UH, AND A BUILDING COVERAGE.

ONE, IT IS, UH, ALMOST ENTIRELY, UH, BUILDING COVERAGE, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.

UH, THE, UM, WE ARE PUTTING IN SUPPORT SERVICES ON THE GROUND FLOOR, ALMOST ENTIRELY OF THE, UH, OF THE SAFE LINES.

BUILDING OFFICES TYPICALLY HAVE A BIT OF A HIGHER FLOOR PLATE.

UM, AND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT FOUR STORIES OF RESIDENTIAL ABOVE THAT, IT STARTS TO GET KIND OF SQUISHED.

UM, SO WE, WE HAVE IT PEGGED RIGHT NOW AT ABOUT 65 FEET.

UH, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COULD DECIDE THAT THEY'RE MEASURING THE GROUND DIFFERENTLY THAN WE ARE, AND IT ENDS UP BEING 67, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT CERTAINLY LIKE NO MORE THAN 70 IS WHAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, NEED, BUT WE THINK IT'S ABOUT 65.

SO, UH, AND HOW MANY FLOORS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? UH, FIVE FLOORS TOTAL AND THE FIRST FLOOR IS PARKING, UH, ON THE CIVIL TWO BUILDING.

THE FIRST FLOOR IS PARKING.

AND, AND THAT, THAT KIND OF LEADS TO THE NEXT QUESTION CAUSE I'M JOINING BY TELEPHONE.

CAN I, AM I ALLOWED TO SPEAK NOW? NO, MA'AM UM, SO IT, SORRY, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE.

I, I, THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD ABOUT THE, THE OFFICE BUILDING COMPONENT.

UM, I, I, I ALWAYS, I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO BE CAUTIOUS WITH PROJECTS THAT MAYBE TRY TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THE BENEFITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, JUST TO GET SOMETHING EXTRA RELATED TO COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE SPACE.

AND, AND NOT THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY ALWAYS A BAD THING, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE OFFICE BUILDING COMPONENT TO THIS IS THE OFFICE

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BUILDING.

IS, IS THAT ALSO CAPITALIZING ON THE BENEFITS OF AFFORD AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED BECAUSE OF THE SAFE HOUSING COMPONENT? UH, YEAH.

AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED ALLOWS UP TO 25% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO BE COMMERCIAL.

UM, WE HAVE A BIT LESS THAN THAT, BUT, UH, YEAH, WE'RE REPLACING THE OFFICE ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, AND THEN THE MARKET RATE UNITS, UH, IN THAT BUILDING.

SO SU THE SAFES BUILDING IS FUNDED ENTIRELY THROUGH PUBLIC FUNDS.

THE, UH, 10% OF UNITS THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, AS, UH, HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE VOUCHER UNITS IN THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR ARE CROSS SUBSIDIZED BY THE MARKET UNITS.

THERE'S NO, UH, PUBLIC FUNDING THERE.

UM, SO, UH, THE, AND IT'S NOT A SMART, UH, DEAL IT'S, UH, THIS UNDER AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED.

IT'S 40 YEARS, NOT JUST FIVE YEARS OF AFFORDABILITY.

UM, AND WE HAVE INCOME NON-DISCRIMINATION FOR THE, UH, FOR THE HOUSING VOUCHERS THERE.

I DON'T SEE IT IN THE BACKUP THEN.

CAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SUMMARIZE FOR US, WHICH UNITS ARE, HOW MANY UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE? HOW MANY UNITS ARE MARKET RATE AND WHAT ARE THE OTHER COMPONENTS IN TERMS OF SIZE, WHETHER THAT'S SQUARE FOOTAGE OR WHATEVER, UM, THAT'S GOING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT, CUZ I DON'T HAVE A, I DON'T SEE A BREAKDOWN OF ANY OF THAT IN THE BACKUP.

SURE.

UM, IT IS, UH, I THINK IT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE OF A INFO SHEET THAT I SENT YOU, BUT UH, IN SOME, UH, IN TOTAL THERE ARE 83 UNITS, 63 HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE, DEEPLY AFFORDABLE 20 MARKET RATE AND ABOUT 16,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE BROKEN OUT, UH, YOU HAVE 60 UNITS OF HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE OWNED BY SAFE ALLIANCE.

AND THEN THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, WE HAVE, UH, 23 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THREE OF WHICH ARE HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE, 20 MARKET RATE.

AND THEN, UH, TWO FLOORS OF OFFICE BELOW.

IS THIS ALL A SINGLE MASS STRUCTURE THAT, OR ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT LIKE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS, THE SAFE HOUSING AND THEN AN OFFICE WITH MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON TOP? NO, IT'S A, IT'S A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO IT'S GOT, UM, UH, THEY SHARE A DRIVE, PARKING STORM, WATER CONTROLS, WATER QUALITY CONTROLS.

SO IT'S TWO BUILDINGS ON THE SAME SITE THAT HAVE DIFFERENT OWNERS, BUT THEY SHARE ALL THE, UH, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT INGRESS AND EGRESS AND, AND ARE THEY PHYSICALLY SEPARATED? UH, SAME INGRESS IN EGRESS ACTUALLY WITH SHARE A DRIVE, BUT, UH, THE BUILDINGS ARE PHYSICALLY SEPARATED.

OH, I MEANT LIKE THE DOORS TO GET INTO THE BUILDINGS.

UH, YES, BECAUSE THE SAFE ALLIANCE BUILDING, UH, IS, UH, 24 7 CONTROLLED ACCESS.

UH, IT'S HIGHLY SECURE.

MR. COOKS.

UM, I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS CAN HEAR THAT BUZZER, SO TRY TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

WHO ELSE SAYS QUESTIONS? I'M HAPPY TO GIVE SOME TIME IF COMMISSIONER COX HAS MORE QUESTIONS.

WELL, I DID.

I THINK SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO GET OUR ATTENTION, UM, ON THE PHONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, IT'S UH, IF WE WANNA RECOGNIZE THE PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO COMMENT, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT WAS.

CHAIR.

THAT WAS JOANNE PARKER.

AN OPPOSITION SPEAKER.

BUT ANYWAY, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE BUSY, SO I'M DONE.

OH, JANE ANN.

SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UM, WE MAY HAVE TIME LEFT AT THE END, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE MY SPOT AND, AND RECOGNIZE THE, UH, SPEAKER ON THE PHONE.

IS THAT MS. PARKER? THANK YOU.

UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SPOKEN TO THE IDEA THAT, THAT JUST EVERYTHING KEEPS EVOLVING AS FAR AS THE PLAN GOES.

SO, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON? AND YOU KNOW, EARLIER TONIGHT I HEARD HIM SAY, HEARD CONNOR, KENNY SAY 65 FEET.

AND THAT'S THE FIRST I'D HEARD 65 FEET, 65 FEET.

AND NOW THEN I HEAR HIM SAYING 70 FEET.

SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, HE, HE'S PROBABLY GONNA BUILD 90 A NAUGHTY FOOT BUILDING THERE, YOU KNOW? SO AM I MUTED OR IS ANYBODY HEARING ME? I HAVE NOS.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

WE'RE JUST, UH, DISMISSED.

UM, AND UH, ABOUT THE, UM, SECURITY AT SAFE, AND I HAD MENTIONED THIS IN A MEETING BEFORE, I DON'T REALLY WANNA LIVE NEXT TO SOMETHING OR I FEEL LIKE I'M UNDER CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE IS SURVEILLANCE AND HAVE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF FEELING SAFER, BUT, UM, I DON'T WANT LIKE VIDEO CAMERAS ON OUR PROPERTY OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO END UP PUTTING TOE AWAY SIGNS PROBABLY IN OUR PARKING LOT.

AND, UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST GONNA BE REALLY INCONVENIENT AND REALLY INVASIVE FOR US.

SO ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR LETTING ME SPEAK.

IT SEEMED WEIRD THAT OTHERS COULD SPEAK, BUT THE PEOPLE BY TELEPHONE AREN'T ABLE TO,

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MA'AM LET ME JUST SAY THAT THIS TIME IS WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS DIRECTED OUR QUESTIONS TO INDIVIDUALS.

SO IT'S, WE WERE JUST RECOGNIZING YOU CUZ WE HEARD YOUR VOICE, BUT NOBODY ASKED YOU A SPECIFIC QUESTION.

I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOU CUZ I THINK YOU HAD SOME COMMENTS, SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

I REAL, I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, WELL I'M GONNA YIELD MY TIME.

COMMISSIONER COX, IF YOU NEEDED ANY OF IT TO FINISH YOUR QUESTIONS, PLEASE DO.

UH, NO, I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I, I GUESS, UM, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PARKING A LITTLE BIT AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS MAYBE THE, THE PERSON REPRESENTING SAFE, UM, IF THEY HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY MANAGE, I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE, WHAT THAT, WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION SITUATION LOOKS LIKE WITH BOTH THEIR STAFF AND THEIR TENANTS.

UM, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT HAVING ZERO PARKING FOR TENANTS, UM, IS IT DOES RAISE MY EYEBROW, UH, EVEN WITH THE GREAT ACCESS TO TRANSIT.

IT JUST, IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF INTERESTING THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT EVEN CONTEMPLATING THE THOUGHT THAT IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, UH, SOMEONE WHO'S TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUT OF A BAD SITUATION, GET A GOOD JOB, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, UH, MIGHT NOT HAVE ACTUALLY ACCESS TO SAFE PARKING IF THEY NEED A CAR TO GET TO THEIR JOB.

SO I'M CURIOUS IF THIS PERSON REPRESENTING SAFE COULD MAYBE SPEAK TO THAT AND IF THE PERSON REPRESENTING SAFE IS NOT, IS, UH, MS. AVAILABLE? SHE'S AVAILABLE.

JUST GIVE IT AT ONE MOMENT.

THANKS.

I MEAN, I THINK PARKING IS A STRUGGLE FOR ANYONE WITH A CAR EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WE SAFE HAS OWNED AND OPERATED FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, UM, IS THAT WE, WE BUILT A, A SURFACE PARKING LOT FOR THAT PROPERTY THAT HAD ONE PARKING SPOT FOR EVERY UNIT.

UM, AND WE TYPICALLY SEE THAT THERE, THERE MAY BE FEWER THAN FIVE CARS IN THAT LOT AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

UM, SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF SPACE THAT WAS USED AND PARKING LOTS CAN ALSO BECOME A SPOT THAT IS UNSAFE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN KINDA HANG OUT LINGER POINTER.

UM, IT'S NOT IDEAL TO NOT HAVE SAFE, ACCESSIBLE PARKING ON DEMAND FOR ANY RESIDENT THAT MAY HAVE A CAR.

UM, BUT WHEN LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP 60 UNITS OF HIGH QUALITY, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR SURVIVORS, UM, IT PARKING CHALLENGES WERE THE BIGGEST DOWNSIDE.

IT STILL FELT LIKE A BIG WIN OVERALL.

UM, AND AGAIN, MOST FOLKS COMING IN MAY NOT HAVE A CAR FIGURING OUT WITH THEIR HOUSING IF THEY WANT TO WORK TOWARDS GETTING A CAR OR IF THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THEIR PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS, BUT SOMETHING WE'LL WORK WITH IN SERVICES WITH EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY AND OUR STAFFING PLANS FOR THE SITE, UM, HAS TO DO WITH LIKE HYBRID MODELS, SOME WORKING REMOTELY, SOME WORKING ON SITE ROTATING SCHEDULES.

UM, SO WHY WE WILL HAVE 24 7 STAFFING, THERE WILL BE A ROTATION OF STAFF.

IN AND OUT DURING BUSINESS HOURS.

THE, OKAY, THANK YOU.

THE BUZZ WENT OFF, SO I'M, THAT'S OUT OF OUR TIME MR. COX.

SO, SO GO AHEAD.

AND, UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? UM, COMMISSION OAR.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, MR. KENNY, COULD YOU, UM, BY ME AGAIN, SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU, WHAT YOU ALL WILL BE DOING IS A 10 FOOT REAR SIDE BACK AND FIVE FOOT SIDE, UH, SORRY.

REAR 10 FOOT REAR SIDE SETBACK AND THEN A FIVE FOOT ON THE SIDE.

IS A FOOT LOWER THAN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS.

RIGHT NOW THE ZONING HAS, UH, SOME PARTS THAT ARE FIVE, SOME PARTS THAT ARE 10 AND WE ARE PROPOSING JUST MAKE IT A UNIFORM 10.

UH, UM, SO IT ACTUALLY INCREASES THE REAR SETBACK A LITTLE BIT.

SO ESSENTIALLY BE OKAY.

SO YOU'D BE LOOKING AT A 10 FOOT SETBACK ACROSS THE ENTIRE SIDE REAR END SIDE MM-HMM .

UM, AND THEN I KNOW WE'VE ASKED SOME VERSION OF THIS TO YOU, BUT CAN YOU GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING AGAIN, OF SORT OF THE HEIGHT THAT YOU'RE THINKING AGAIN, OF COURSE, UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT MIGHT CHANGE AS THIS GOES TO COUNCIL AND BEYOND, BUT WHAT ARE YOU PROJECTING AT THIS POINT? SO THE ARCHITECT RIGHT NOW SAYS 65 FEET.

UM, THEY'RE JUST SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GO TO SITE PLAN REVIEW, THEY DECIDE THAT GROUND

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UM, SO, UH, THE, UM, UH, WHILE YOU CAN FIT FIVE STORIES UNDER 60 FEET, YOU END UP WITH SOME CRAMP, UH, CEILINGS.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO GET ANOTHER COUPLE OF FEET THERE TO BE ABLE TO DO NINE FOOT CEILINGS INSTEAD OF EIGHT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, MS. JEFF, GO AHEAD.

I JUST WANNA MAKE A CLARIFICATION.

UM, I HAVE SOME NOTES THAT CONNOR SHARED WITH ME.

THE INTERIOR SIDE YARD WOULD BE FIVE FEET, WHICH MATCHES WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

IT'S THE REAR YARD.

THAT'S CHANGING TO 10 FEET.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE A COUPLE EXTRA SPOTS IF WE NEED 'EM COMMISSIONER.

MUTO SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I, I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP IF SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDED A QUESTION.

I'M SORRY.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS ON ONE SITE AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, THE SAFE ALLIANCE.

I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH CIVIL AND I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.

CIVILITY IS, UM, A PRIVATE ENTITY, AN ENGINEERING FIRM.

IT'S NOT RELATED TO SAFE ALLIANCE.

IT'S JUST A JOINT PROJECT ON THIS PROPERTY.

UH, YES.

AND, UH, ACTUALLY MYSELF AND, AND OUR DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.

UH, WE ARE PART OF THAT GROUP.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY OUR OFFICE TOO.

UM, AND UH, WE HAD TO GIVE AWAY OUR OFFICE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE SAFE PROJECT HAPPEN.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE ACROSS THE STREET AND REPLACE THE OFFICE THAT WE'RE GETTING KICKED OUT OF IN LIKE SIX MONTHS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN FURTHER? I'M SORRY.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

THE, THE DEVELOPER WHO IS DEVELOPING THE ENTIRE BLOCK TO THE WEST, UH, BETWEEN 51ST 57 LANCASTER AND CAMERON, UM, WE HAD ONE OF THE LAST PARCELS WHERE OUR OFFICE CURRENTLY IS THAT THEY WANTED, AND THEY OWNED THE LOT ACROSS THE STREET THAT WE WANTED TO BUILD THE SAFE BUILDING ON AND THEY WOULDN'T SELL IT.

THEY WOULD ONLY TRADE IT.

SO JUST THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SUCH LOW NUMBERS, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO PEOPLE ARE CLEAR ON WHAT THEY'RE VOTING WHEN WE START GETTING THE MOTIONS, LET'S JUST USE THIS TIME.

SO, UM, I WILL ALLOW ROB DONE REPETITIVE QUESTIONS, BUT LET'S KEEP IT LIMITED.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, MS. UH, COMMISSIONER COX? I JUST GOT ONE QUESTION IN THE APPLICANT.

I'M CURIOUS IF HE'S GOT ANY SORT OF PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, MASSING DRAWING, ANYTHING THAT WOULD GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT MIGHT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE? UM, WE DO, UH, IT'S A VERY URBAN FORM, UH, AND MATCHES THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE ALREADY SEEING, GOING UP ON 51ST AND, AND UP AND DOWN.

UH, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE IT AT MY FINGERTIPS TO SHARE WITH YOU, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE'RE SEEKING 75% BUILDING COVERAGE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING TO DO 75% BUILDING COVERAGE.

SO IT'S A FIVE STORY BUILDING.

UH, UH, ONE OF OUR SIGNATURES IS THAT WE DO WIDE SIDEWALKS IN STREET TREES ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR PROJECTS.

UH, SO THE, UH, IT'S ON A CORNER.

SO THE TWO SIDES WILL GET EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS AND STREET TREES.

THERE WILL ALSO BE TREES, UH, IN THE REAR, UH, WHERE WE HAVE RAIN GARDENS IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT IS 75% OF THE LOT LOOKING TO BE A FIVE STORY BUILDING.

I MEAN, THERE'S SOME ARTICULATION, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SOLID BUILDING, YOU KNOW, ADMITTEDLY, I'LL, I'LL JUST THROW OUT THERE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THAT AND THROW IT UP ON THE SCREEN.

I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, KIND OF VISUALIZE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, VERSUS JUST WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM YOU AND, AND THE OPPOSITION AND, AND THE DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF US.

RIGHT.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE IT AVAILABLE.

I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DISPUTE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FIVE FOOT, UH, OR A FIVE STORY BUILDING.

UM, UH, THE, AND THAT IT WILL TAKE UP MOST OF THE LOT.

UM, AND, UH, THE, THE CURRENT ZONING, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE THE ADJOINING LOTS ARE MULTI-FAMILY IN OFFICE, UH, AND A TACO PLACE.

UM, THEY, THERE'S NO COMPATIBILITY THERE.

SO WHAT'S ALLOWED NOW IS, IS A THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING OR MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING ESSENTIALLY ADD TWO STORIES AND MAKE THE FOOTPRINT A BIT BIGGER, BUT NOT CHANGE ANY OF THE SETBACKS BETWEEN US AND ANY ADJOINING LOTS.

IMPACTFUL, UM, I KNOW JUST FROM MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD HELP ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, KIND OF THE SCALE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADJACENT TO THE SCALE THAT, THAT EXISTS.

AND, AND, AND I, I GUESS MY POINT WAS, I, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEIGHT.

I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING COVERAGE.

I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, DRIVEWAY ORIENTATION.

I KNOW THAT GOES A BIT BEYOND STRICTLY THE ZONING REGULATIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, BUT, UM, IF, IF THERE'S A VISUALIZATION OF HOW THAT INTERACTS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T SEEM DETRIMENTALLY

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NOW, IT'S ALWAYS A STRUGGLE LOOKING AT ZONING VERSUS WHAT EXISTS NOW.

AND SO, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO CONCEPTUALIZE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN, IN MY HEAD.

SO ANY GRAPHICS WOULD BE USEFUL.

I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE, I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THERE'S FIVE DRIVEWAYS AND THOSE ARE BEING CONSOLIDATED DOWN TO ONE.

TD MAKES US, UM, AND I WOULD OFFER THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SAFE EXPERIENCE MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SMALL OFFICE BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 23 UNITS THAT HAVE, UH, USED PARKING.

UM, YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT.

THAT'S LIKE ONE LONG CUL-DE-SAC WITH HOUSES ON IT.

LIKE YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A LOT OF TRAFFIC IMPACT FROM THAT.

UM, AND, UH, EVERYTHING TO THE WEST IS ACTUALLY ALL DEMOLISHED OR, OR VACANT.

UM, AND, UH, THERE ARE, UH, TO THE NORTH, UH, AND EAST, THERE ARE, UH, SEVERAL ONE AND TWO STORY, UH, MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST, UH, NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS GONNA LOOK THE SAME IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ON 51ST AND THE TRANSIT THAT'S GOING IN THERE AND THE GROCERY STORE THAT'S GOING IN THERE, UH, THE ENTIRETY OF THE 51ST STREET CORRIDORS IS BEING REDEVELOPED AT 60 OR 90.

AND I THINK YOU'RE GETTING A REQUEST SOON FOR 120 FEET.

SO, UM, THIS BASICALLY DOES, AND JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, IT TAKES THAT, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY INTENSE DEVELOPMENT AND IT BRINGS IT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE SET OF LOTS, UH, AROUND THE CORNER.

UM, SO WE ACTUALLY TOUCH ONE GR UH, SAME ZONING, UH, TO OUR DIAGONAL.

THERE'S ANOTHER GR LOT.

THAT'S ONE LOT OVER.

SO, UM, THIS DOES EXPAND THAT ZONE IN DEEPER OFF 51ST, BUT IT, IT IT'S THE SAME ZONING THAT IS ALL ALONG 51ST.

SO, AND I, AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE, UH, UH, VISUALS AT MY, MY FINGERTIPS.

DO I HAVE TIME FOR ONE LAST QUESTION? UM, YEAH, I DON'T HEAR THE BUZZER, BUT JUST, YEAH, GO AHEAD REAL QUICK, QUICKLY.

I JUST, JUST TO THE APPLICANT, UM, IF THIS COMMISSION WAS TO POSTPONE THIS, WHICH I KNOW IS YOUR WORST CASE SCENARIO, YOU'D RATHER US VOTE IT UP OR DOWN, HOWEVER, WHICH WAY, BUT YOU WANT TO VOTE TONIGHT, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PRACTICAL IMPACT OF THAT.

YES, DOMINOES WILL FALL, BUT, BUT DO YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF FUNDING DEADLINE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MEET THROUGH SAFE OR IS IT JUST A MATTER OF THE APPROVALS WILL JUST GET PUSHED BACK TWO WEEKS A MONTH, WHATEVER THAT IS.

UH, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION DUE TO THE STATE.

UH, WE, THERE ARE NO DEADLINES THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY FAIL IF THE, IF A DELAY GOES THROUGH, BUT, UH, AFTER CITY COUNCIL ZONING, BECAUSE ZONING HAS DONE AT 2:00 PM AND HFC AWARDS ARE DONE AT NOON, WE HAVE TO WAIT THEN ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING FOR, FOR THEM TO APPROVE THE FUNDING.

THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE ON THEIR AGENDA FOR A WHILE.

SO THERE'S ANOTHER, AT LEAST FOUR TO SIX WEEKS OF CITY APPROVALS THAT, THAT HAPPEN AFTER THIS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO THIS LAST SPOT HAS TO BE SOMEONE THAT HASN'T ASKED A QUESTION YET, AND, UM, GOING TO RECOGNIZE OUR CHAIR COHEN.

IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT FIRST OFF, LET ME START BY SAYING AS AN ALUMNI OF THE COVENANT HOUSE IN HOUSTON AND THE STAR POPE, THAT I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING HERE.

WHEN I FIRST STARTED ON BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, UH, SOME OF THE MORE EXPERIENCED MEMBERS TOLD ME, HEY, IF YOU ARE NOT SURE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW THIS VARIANCE MIGHT CHANGE THINGS, GO DRIVE IT.

THESE DAYS, WE'VE GOT GOOGLE MAPS.

AND I WAS JUST LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE YOU SAY, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES? 1, 2, 3 STORY ARE ON 51ST AND 52ND, JUST IN THAT LITTLE AREA AROUND THESE PROPERTIES, UH, JUST IN A LITTLE AREA AROUND THESE PROPERTIES, THERE ARE, THERE IS, UH, A ONE STORY MULTI-FAMILY NEXT TO US.

THERE'S, UH, TWO STORY MULTI-FAMILY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, SO IT'S NOT GONNA GET REDEVELOPED, BUT THERE'S TWO STORY MULTI-FAMILY TO THE NORTHWEST.

UM, THERE'S SOME BUNGALOWS AND THEN SOME, TWO AND THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS TO THE WEST OF THAT.

EVERYTHING TO OUR WEST IS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING DEMOLISHED OR HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED AND IS GOING TO GET REDEVELOPED PACOS.

THAT IS CADDY CORNER TO US, HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET SOFTLY FOR A WHILE.

UM, SO, UH, THE ENTIRETY OF, OF 51ST IS, UM, IT'S GETTING REDEVELOPED.

JUST, FROM WHAT I SAW, I COUNTED 14 MM-HMM 14.

CUZ I

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UH, SEVERAL OF THOSE ARE VACANT, VACANT.

OH, OKAY.

BUT IT JUST, IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S THAT MUCH OF A CHANGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT TALLER, BUT YOU GO ON 51ST, JUST ONE BLOCK OVER AND RIGHT THERE.

UM, UH, THERE'S LIKE A, I MEAN THE ENTIRE 67 STORY.

THE ENTIRE, THIS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ZONED FOR OFFICE AND MULTIFAMILY.

UM, THERE'S ONE S F SIX, UH, PROPERTY THAT WAS LEFT THAT WAY CUZ IT'S IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

UM, AND UH, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE CONTACT TEAM, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN URBAN FORM, THAT'S DENSE, LIKE THIS IS WHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS, IT'S BEEN DESIGNATED AS OFFICE AND MULTIFAMILY.

THIS ISN'T INCREASE IN THE INTENSITY, BUT IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT A SEA CHANGE AT ALL.

IT'S JUST A CHANGE IN THE INTENSITY.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR QUESTIONS.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANYONE WITH A MOTION? UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE SURE.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THAT IS ON YES.

ITEMS TWO AND THREE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

BOTH ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING CASE.

I HAVE A SECOND.

UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER? ISAR THANK YOU CHAIR.

SO I, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CASE, IT'S AN IMPORTANT CASE.

THIS MEETING PART OF A CRITICAL NEED FOR US FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF OUR MEETING, OUR GOALS AS CITY AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS.

SO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS CASE CRITICALLY.

HAVING SAID THAT, I DO WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING SIDE, SO CURRENTLY ZONED ACROSS THE STREET IS MF TWO C NMP TO THE NORTH, TO THE WEST IS O M U N P TO THE SOUTH IS G M U V C N P.

AND TO THE EAST IS MF TWO NB.

THIS SITE IS SURROUNDED BY MIXED USED OFFICE AND MULTI-FAMILY ZONING.

THIS IS TRULY AN APPROPRIATE SITE TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HERE, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS USING THOSE MF TWO SITES AS A STEP DOWN TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT ALLOWS US TO REALLY CREATE THAT BALANCE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS WHILE ALSO ENSURING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY MUCH WITHIN WHAT THE FLU LOOKS AT.

AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT, WE'RE CHANGING THIS FROM A OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY MIXED USE TO MIXED USE.

AGAIN, IT IS STAYING WITHIN WHAT WAS WITHIN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND WHAT WAS ENVISIONED FOR THIS SITE.

THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL SAY ON THIS IS, I THINK WE'VE HEARD VERY CLEARLY FROM, YOU KNOW, SAY, UH, SAFE, WHO YOU SERVE THE TENANT OR WHO WILL BE PART OF THE PROJECT ITSELF.

THE THEY'RE CRITICALLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS AROUND SAFETY.

THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THEM VERY CLEARLY AND MAKING WORK ON THAT.

AND OF COURSE, THEY'LL PROBABLY KEEP WORKING ON THAT AS THIS GOES TO COUNCIL AND BEYOND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE PARK REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT THEIR NEED ACTUALLY IS IN THEIR EXISTING PROPERTIES.

I WILL SAY WE'VE HAD OTHER PROJECTS, UH, TERRACE AT OAK SPRINGS COMES TO MIND.

IT WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECTS.

WE REQUIRED ALL THE PARKING.

THIS IS PRE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED ERA THAT PARKING SITS EMPTY.

MEANWHILE, THEY LITERALLY HAVE NO SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE RESIDENTS WHO DO WANT TO LIVE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE HAVE PARKING UNITS SITTING EMPTY, BUT WE HAVE APARTMENT UNITS THAT ARE NOT THERE.

SO WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, IS THAT THE NEED, OR DO WE LISTEN TO THE APPLICANT HERE AND SAYING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR EXISTING PARKING NEEDS AND FEEL LIKE THIS ADDRESSES THAT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

AND LASTLY, I'LL JUST SAY, I THINK LOOKING AT THE TIMELINES AGAIN, THIS WOULD IMPACT THE PROJECT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

AND AS THIS CONVERSATION WILL CONTINUE AS THIS GOES TO COUNCIL, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ENGAGE WITH THAT CONVERSATION AND CONTINUE THE WORK WITH THE APPLICANT WHO HAS CLEARLY SHOWN THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SUPPORT FROM AGAIN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM BECAUSE OF THE CONCESSIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MADE.

SO LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS, I DO WANNA SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE I DO THINK WE SHOULD FORWARD THIS TO COUNCIL SO THAT THE CONVERSATIONS CAN CONTINUE, BUT WE CAN MEET OUR CRITICAL GOALS AS A COMMUNITY.

STRUGGLE WITH THIS PROBABLY FOR THE VERY SAME REASONS THAT THE CONTACT TEAM STRUGGLE WITH THIS, IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THEIR THEIR LETTER.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ARD.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS? WE SPEECH THE WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS MOTION? ANY OF THOSE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? UH, UH, COMMISSIONER COX AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER ISH.

TYLER, YOU'LL BE THE THIRD SPEAKING IN FAVOR, IF I'M GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER CUT.

YEAH, I WANTED, I WANTED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR CUZ I KNOW VOTE COUNTING IS IMPORTANT HERE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS WE HAVE.

UM, I, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE CONTACT TEAM DID STRUGGLE WITH THIS.

AND I, I

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UM, AND THIS IS ONE THING THAT THAT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE FOR ME IS, IS TO RELATE THE PROPOSED ZONING TO WHAT EXISTS NOW VERSUS WHAT THE VERSUS WHAT THE ZONING IS AROUND IT.

AND I THINK THAT THAT THE COMPATIBILITY AND SCALE OF THIS PROJECT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF STEP WITH WHAT EXISTS NOW ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

BUT WHEN YOU DO LOOK AT THE ADJACENT ZONING AND THE ABILITY OF THESE PROPERTIES TO REDEVELOP AND WHAT SOUNDS LIKE AS A PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPING, THIS IS WHAT COMMISSIONERS ARE ALLUDED TO.

UM, THEN IT DOES SEEM LIKE A MUCH MORE COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT TO WHAT IS POSSIBLE IN THAT AREA.

SO I DO THINK IT'S A THOUGHTFUL AND, AND WELL THOUGHT OUT, UM, APPLICATION.

I DO APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER MAKING TWEAKS, UM, TO THE APPLICATION AND RESPONSE TO THE FEEDBACK.

AND I REALLY DO HOPE, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, WITH STUFF LIKE THIS, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE DETAILS.

THE DETAILS REALLY REALLY MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, ADJACENT RESIDENTS, HAPPY WITH THE FINAL RESULTS.

SO I REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER TO WORK WITH THE ADJACENT, UH, RESIDENTS TO, TO WORK OUT THINGS LIKE DRIVEWAY, LOCATION, WHERE THE PARKING IS GONNA GO DUMPSTERS, THAT SORT OF STUFF, CUZ THAT THAT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT REALLY, REALLY MATTERS WITH THIS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T GET INTO IT HERE.

SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

JUST BRIEFLY BEFORE, UH, COMMISSIONER MOOSE CHILD, ARE YOU SPEAK ANY, ANY COMMISSIONERS WHICH TO SPEAK AGAINST? OKAY.

UH, GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER.

MUTO SPEAKING IN FAVOR.

UM, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THE SAFE ALLIANCE PROJECT IS THAT THERE ARE ONSITE 24 HOUR SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THE TENANTS THAT ARE COMING IN.

THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT I LOOK FOR IN SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO BLEND OUR COMMUNITIES IN A WAY.

SO, UM, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT KEY FOR ME.

UM, THE OTHER THING WAS THE TRADE IN THE PROPERTY FROM SOLITUDE TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THIS UP, TO DEVELOP IT.

I, I THOUGHT, UM, THAT WAS FAVORABLE.

UM, AGAIN ALSO AGREE AND ECHO THE OTHER.

COMMISSIONER'S SENTIMENTS THAT IF WE LOOK AT WHAT IS ZONING AROUND AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, THIS ACTUALLY IS A STEP, UH, DOWN FROM WHAT'S COMING AROUND IN TERMS OF DENSITY.

AND SO IT DOES PROVIDE THAT STEP.

SO WHILE IT'S A BIT OF A JUMP FROM, UH, ONE DIRECTION, IT DOES STEP IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL.

UM, SO, UH, AND, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THESE KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, OUT PRICED AND OVERDEVELOPED WHERE WE CAN'T GET IN THESE AFFORDABILITY OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT IN.

AND I I'D HATE TO SEE, I I'D HATE TO LET THAT PASS US BY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS, UH, STARTING WITH, UM, WELL LET'S JUST GO AND ONE MORE TIME.

THIS IS, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ZR.

SECOND ADVICE, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON TO SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEMS TWO AND THREE.

UH, LET'S GO AND VOTE THOSE ON THE DIAS IN FAVOR AND THOSE VIRTUALLY PLEASE SHOW ME YOUR GREEN FIRST.

LET'S SEE.

1, 2, 3.

SO THAT'S UH, PASSES UNANIMOUS LEE AND THAT'S UM, YEAH, EIGHT ZERO.

AND I REALLY WANNA APPRECIATE THOSE THAT CAME THIS EVENING.

UM, AND, UH, PLEASE, THIS GOES TO COUNCIL NEXT.

SO, UM, JUST RECOMMEND, UH, THE APPLICANT.

I WOULD THINK THOSE, UH, MASSING, UH, IMAGES WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THERE AND YES.

UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, PLEASE, UM, PLEASE TRY TO MAKE THE COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL.

UM, MOVING ON.

I THINK THAT'S ALL OF OUR CHAIR.

COULD, COULD WE HAVE A FEW MINUTE BREAK? YES.

UH, LET'S GO.

I KNOW WE'RE CLOSE TO .

COME BACK, READ IT BACK OVER.

UM, CAN WE GO AHEAD? IS FIVE MINUTES ADEQUATE COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, GET BACK HERE.

UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK UNTIL EIGHT 20, UH, IF WE CAN GET EVERYBODY BACK ON WHEN I SEE SEVEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND

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16 DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ESTABLISHING A WORKING GROUP TASK TO COLLABORATE WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND MEMBERS OF THE DESIGN COMMISSION TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE INPUT REGARDING THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES UPDATE.

UH, BRING THIS MEETING, UH, RECONVENING THAT'S 8 23 AND LET'S SEE, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 MEMBERS NOW AND MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

UM, UNDER NOMINATIONS AND APPOINTMENTS, THE I'LL GO AND READ THIS, UH,

[16. Discuss and consider establishing a working group tasked to collaborate with stakeholders and members of the Design Commission to review and provide input regarding the Urban Design Guidelines Update.]

UM, I DON'T TALKING TO, UM, MR. RIVERA.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS ON A, UH, RIGID TIMELINE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GO AHEAD AND FORM THE WORKING GROUP AND KIND OF GET SOME, SEE, WHO'S INTERESTED.

I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF WORKING GROUPS CURRENTLY, UH, ACTIVE RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT, UH, DO I HAVE LET'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS OR WE HAD SPONSORS ON THIS.

I DON'T THINK, I THINK YOU AND I SPONSORED THIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? BUS CHAIR.

IT'S NOT SHOWN ON HERE.

YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FORMATION OF THIS WORKING GROUP? ANY MEMBERS, COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONERS INTERESTED.

I'M INTERESTED CHAIR.

UM, OKAY.

SO, UH, JUST WANNA GO AROUND.

I DON'T HEAR ANY QUESTIONS.

SO IF WE HAVE A, UM, IF WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO AND ESTABLISH THE WORKING GROUP, AND I GUESS WE CAN, UH, GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THE VICE CHAIR AND THEN WE'LL KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK WHEN WE HAVE A FULL FULL PARTY.

YES, WE HAVE CHAIR COHEN.

I'LL GO AND MAKE A MOTION TO FORM FOR THE FORMATION OF A WORKING GROUP.

UH, AND WE HAVE A SECOND GOODBYE COMMISSIONER AAR.

UM, THIS SHOULD ADDRESS THE, UH, URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINE UPDATE.

AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MEMBERS, UH, THE VICE CHAIR AND, UH, CHAIR COHEN FROM BOA.

AND WE'LL KEEP THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK SO WE CAN, UH, GET ADDITIONAL MEMBERS, UH, INVOLVED.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM THAT IS ON THE DIAS IN FAVOR AND THOSE VIRTUALLY.

EXPECT THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UM, MAKE THOSE MEETINGS WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE DESIGNEE? UH, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO FILL IN WHILE, UM, WHILE WE WAIT FOR A NEW APPOINTEE.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS NINE ZERO

[17. Nominate a member of Planning Commission to be considered by Council to serve on the Joint Sustainability Committee.]

MOVING ON 17.

WE HAVE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE BROUGHT THIS UP.

WE'VE UH, LOST ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS, UH, WHO HAD TO LEAVE THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER PRAXIS.

UM, ITEM 17 IS TO NOMINATE A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL TO SERVE ON THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

UH, JUST REAL QUICK.

I WANTED TO GET, UM, YOU'RE OUR SUBSTITUTE ON THAT COMMITTEE, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

UM, COULD YOU JUST BRIEF US QUICKLY, UM, ON THE RECENT ACTIVITIES, IF THERE ARE ANY WITH THAT WORKING GROUP? I MEAN THAT, UM, UHFOR UNFORTUNATELY I, UH, I'VE BEEN, UH, UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER PRAXIS, FORMER COMMISSIONER PRACTICE, UH, WAS ATTENDING ALL THE MEETINGS.

SO I'M NOT, UH, SUPER UP TO DATE ON OKAY.

UH, ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING LATELY.

UM, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE A PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY, WHICH IS TO REVIEW THE, UM, THE CLIMATE PLAN PERIODICALLY, WHICH HAPPENED LAST YEAR.

AND, UH, I DON'T THINK A FORMAL REVIEW WILL HAPPEN FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS, BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER, UH, REGULAR ACTIVITIES DEALING WITH SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT PLEASE, IF OTHERS WANT TO ENTERTAIN OTHER, UH, WAYS TO ADDRESS THIS, I, WE HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE A REPLACEMENT FOR COMMISSIONER PRAXIS AND JUST HOPING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENGAGEMENT ON THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES.

AND THIS WOULD BE ONE THAT IF WE KEPT IT OPEN, THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM.

UH, SO UNLESS I, UM, ARE THERE, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO WAITING TO FILL THIS, UM, UNTIL WE GET, UH, THAT COMMISSIONER PLACED ON OUR, ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ANY CONCERNS COMMISSIONERS, ARE, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER YOU'RE ALTERNATE ON THEIR, CAN WE

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UM, I, SO CAN WE FORMALLY ALERT THE STAFF, THE, THE STAFF ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT I CAN BE, THAT I CAN SUBSTITUTE IN? I, I DON'T THINK I'M GETTING NOTICES ABOUT THE MEETINGS OR ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.

I'LL REACH OUT TO, I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO MR. RIVERA AND ASK HIM IF YOU CAN DO THAT FOR US TO MAKE SURE YOU GET INCLUDED ON THE NOTICES.

THANKS, JIM.

AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER FOR YOUR SERVICE.

YEAH, THAT MAKES ME FEEL A LOT BETTER TOO.

SO WE'VE GOT COVERAGE.

LET'S GO TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, I THINK.

UM, SO

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

UH, UM, DID YOU HAVE AN ITEM, UH, JUST WANTED TO SEE IF MAYBE SOMEONE NEW ABOUT THIS, OR I WANTED TO PICK THIS UP BACK IN, UH, JUNE, UH, THERE WAS A COUNCIL WORKING GROUP ON SOME PROPOSED, UH, CHANGES TO THE DEFINITION AND THE INCENTIVES FOR ADU MADE BY COUNCIL.

UH, BRENT LLOYD HAD SAID THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THIS ON THEIR TIMELINE TO SPEAK TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN AUGUST AND, OR IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SEPTEMBER EITHER WAY.

I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS AUGUST.

AND I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT YET.

AND DIDN'T KNOW IF SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA TO FOLLOW UP ON IT, OR, YEAH.

WHAT I'LL DO, LET'S GO AHEAD AND WE'LL MAKE A REQUEST TO MR. RIVERA TO MAYBE START WITH AN UPDATE FROM STAFF, JUST IN WRITING AND THEN LET'S, UH, THEN WE CAN FOLLOW UP IF WE NEED, ACTUALLY WANT TO TRY TO PENCIL THEM IN FOR A TIME PERIOD.

BUT, UH, LET ME REQUEST AN UPDATE.

THANKS.

SO THIS IS ON INCENTIVES FOR ADU.

THERE ARE SOME COACHING, UH, YEAH.

HAD SOME COACHING.

YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT.

UH, YES.

COMMISSIONER ZAR, UM, UM, COMMISSIONER COHEN, CHAIR COHEN, THE CODES AND AWARENESS IS JOINT COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW IS GETTING AN UPDATE REGULARLY CENTER, OUR BACKUP AS WELL.

IT'S CALLED THE COURT AMENDMENT SUMMARY TABLE, WHICH SHOWS ALL THE ITEMS AND SORT OF WHEN THEY'RE EXPECTED TO COME, THIS IS IN THERE.

SO I DON'T HAVE GOOD NEWS CUZ IT SAYS SUMMER 2022.

SO WE'RE OBVIOUSLY KIND OF NOT ALIGNING WITH THAT TIMELINE ANYMORE, BUT I JUST WANT TO ALERT PEOPLE TO THAT TABLE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN HELPFUL FOR CODES AND ORDINANCES JUST TO SEE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING IN THE PIPELINE BECAUSE IT'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF THINGS.

WE'LL GET THAT SHARED WITH THE REST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.

UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, UM, I'VE SENT IN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, JUST SORT OF WONDERING WHAT THE, THE TREE ORDINANCE WAS LIKE IN TERMS OF, I I'VE NOTICED SEVERAL SITES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT HAD TRANSPLANTED TREES AND THEY DIED.

AND, AND I JUST KIND OF WONDERED, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A HERITAGE TREE DIES, IF YOU CUT DOWN A HERITAGE TREE FOR THE PLANT AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT UP IN MULTIPLE TIMES, THE CALIPER WITH, IF, IF ONE THAT TRANSPLANTED DIES, WHAT HAPPENS AND HOW DOES THAT GET REPLACED? UM, OR, OR JUST REGULAR TREES THAT GET REPLACED AND WHAT, WHAT'S THE TIME PERIOD ON THOSE.

AND IT WOULD BE INTERESTING QUESTIONS TO, TO HAVE, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE AN UPDATE, BUT IF WE, IF IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR STAFF TO JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, COME AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON HOW, HOW THAT, THOSE ORDINANCES WORK.

UM, LET YOU MADE THAT REQUEST TO MR. RIVERA AND OKAY.

LET ME, UH, FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND SEE AT LEAST TRY TO GET A RESPONSE TO THE, TO THAT START WITH.

UM, ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL FUTURE ITEMS, COMMISSAR, UM, CHAIR, WE KNOW THERE'S TWO CODE PIECES THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE TO US SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, I BELIEVE CODES AND ORDINANCES MIGHT SEE THEM THIS MONTH.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS RELATED TO THE ALLOWANCE OF MIXED USES ON COMMERCIAL SITES THAT AGAIN, COUNCIL HAD INITIATED AND I JUST WANTED TO SUGGEST, AND I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF OVERWORKING GROUPED OUT, BUT I WONDER, I JUST WANNA REQUEST A POSSIBLE FOR A FUTURE MEETING TO PUT A WORKING GROUP, TO LOOK AT THOSE CODE PIECES ON THE AGENDA, OR WE CAN DISCUSS IF THAT'S SOMETHING AN EXISTING WORKING GROUP CAN TAKE, BUT I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA SO WE CAN CREATE A WORKING GROUP IN ADVANCE OF THE CODE AMENDMENT SO THAT WE'RE READY TO GO OFF AS SOON AS THOSE COME.

AND THERE'S NO DELAY ON OUR END.

OF WORKING GROUPS TO COVER THOSE COUNCIL ITEMS THAT ARE COMING DOWN TO US OR A DECISION TO INCORPORATE THAT, UH, THAT INTO AN EXISTING WORKING GROUP.

I LIKE THAT IDEA.

SO WE'LL NEXT AGENDA.

IT'LL BE, WE'LL DO KIND OF A FORMATION

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SO WE'LL MAKE A DECISION ON THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND, AND YES, IF WE CAN JUST KEEP THE POSTING LANGUAGE FLEXIBLE SO WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AT THE TIME.

UH, LAST WE GO THROUGH OUR UPDATE ON BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND WORKING GROUPS.

ANY OTHER FUTURE ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.

[BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES]

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE CODES AND ORANGES JOINT COMMITTEE, UH, VICE CHAIR.

DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US AN UPDATE? YEAH.

UM, I THINK I GAVE THIS UPDATE LAST TIME, BUT WE HEARD THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, UH, PROPOSED, UH, CODE CHANGES AT OUR MEETING AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT AS, UH, KUSH ARE MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE THAT, UM, CNO COMMITTEE WILL HEAR AND THEN CLEANING COMMISSION WILL HEAR AT SOME POINT AFTER, UM, A LOT OF VERY DENSE, UM, CODE UPDATES FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

AND I'M JUST, UH, READING HERE JUST ON THAT COMMISSION.

UH, THIS WAS AN UPDATE FROM GREG DUTTON, UH, WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE A NEW MEETING LOCATION AT THE PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER, UM, FOR FUTURE CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING STARTING NEXT MONTH, SEPTEMBER 21ST.

SO JUST A REMINDER TO THOSE ON THAT JOINT COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE A NEW, UH, MEETING LOCATION IF YOU'RE GONNA MEET IN PERSON.

AND I ASSUME VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE IS STILL ALLOWED.

SO, UM, LET'S SEE.

CONFERENCE AND PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE, ANY UPDATES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY MEMBERS HERE? COMMISSIONER COX? YEAH.

UM, WE HAVE NOT MET SINCE THE LAST MEETING.

I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF OUR NEXT MEETING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

SO WE'RE JUST PENDING RIGHT NOW.

UH, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THERE SINCE.

COMMISSIONER MO TYLER COMMISSIONER HOWARD.

WE'LL GO.

A SMALLER AREA OF PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.

LET'S SEE.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU CAN SHARE OR COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? WE HAVEN'T MET RECENTLY.

UH, SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.

UH, WE MEET MONDAY.

IT'S LOOKING LIKE WE'RE GONNA END UP REPEATING A LOT OF THE SAME INFORMATION, UH, WHILE WE'RE DOING DISCOVERY, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE, UH, TRYING TO FIND, UH, THAT OR PERFORM THAT DATA ACQUISITION.

UH, HOUSING WORKING GROUP, UH, THE SITE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM? SO COMMISSIONER, SHE IS OUT TONIGHT.

UH, BUT I GUESS ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS OF BEING ON BOTH, UH, OF THESE WORKING GROUPS IS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF EXCHANGE IDEAS.

UM, HE ASKED ME TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON, ON BOTH, SO, OKAY.

WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR IS, UH, WE'VE RECRUITED STEVE AND OLIVER, UH, TO BE ON THE TEAM.

HE'S GONNA BE OUR POINT PERSON FOR AIA.

UH, WE MET WITH AIA, THEY'RE GOING TO GET US A DATE TO MEET WITH THE WORKING GROUP THAT THEY'VE BEEN USING TO LOBBY COUNCIL, UH, TO GO OVER THESE SAME KIND OF SMALL CHANGES.

LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE DO.

UH, WE CAME UP WITH AN IDEA.

WE WANT TO ENGAGE SOME EMPLOYEES FROM THE DSD WHO, UH, THIS IS, IS GENERALLY A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC TOWARDS MY WORKING GROUP, BUT, UH, WHO DEAL WITH SITE PLAN REVIEW.

AND I'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT.

AND SOME RESPONSES WHERE I THINK WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE, I JUST NEED TO GET CONFIRMATION AND THEY NEED TO GET APPROVAL FROM THEIR DIRECTOR.

UM, WE CAME UP WITH AN IDEA WHERE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SUGGEST IS, UH, PICKING THREE KIND OF SMALL ITEMS, UH, TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION MAYBE ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, TO GIVE THEM TIME TO WORK OVER IT AND TRY TO HAMMER OUT ALL THE LITTLE DETAILS.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THESE, THESE LOW HANGING FRUIT, UH, THESE, THESE VERY, YOU KNOW, SMALL TWEAKS THAT MAYBE LIKE MAY NEED TO BE, UH, OR SHOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION, BUT ISN'T FOR SOME REASON.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH THAT.

UM, I WAS KIND OF HOPING MR. RIVERA WOULD BE HERE.

WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, CAN THE, BOTH THE WORKING GROUPS BE AT THE SAME SESSION BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, UH, KIND OF LOW TURNOUT, WE'VE HAD SOME NOHOW AND

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BUT WHAT WORRIED THAT IF WE MIX TOO MANY PEOPLE TOGETHER, WE MIGHT END UP WITH THAT WALKING FORUM.

SO I WOULD SAY YOU WILL RUN INTO NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, UM, AT THAT POINT.

IT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING.

IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS, I GUESS BRINGS US BACK TO, YOU KNOW, WHY IT WOULD BE A BETTER IDEA FOR A SINGLE WORKING GROUP FOR AT LEAST THE DATA ACQUISITION PART OF THINGS.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TALKING TO THE SAME PEOPLE.

UH, BOTH, BOTH, BOTH WORKING GROUPS, UH, JUST, JUST TO GET THAT THE INITIAL BALL ROLLING, YOU KNOW, TO GET IDEAS AND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, BEFORE YOU, WEREN'T GONNA PRESENT PROPOSED CHANGES TO EITHER OF THESE WORKING GROUPS, IT JUST, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE FIRST.

SO, UM, OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO JUST GOING BACK ON OUR AGENDA THEN UNDER FUTURE ITEMS. UM, I, AND IF I CAN GET SUPPORT FOR THIS, I THINK BRINGING UP THAT ISSUE IS, SO WE'VE GOT THESE COUNCIL ITEMS THAT ARE COMING TO US.

WE HAVE TWO WORKING GROUPS, AND NOW I'M HEARING THAT THERE MIGHT BE ADVANTAGES TO, UH, MAYBE CONSOLIDATING THAT.

UH, SO I THINK AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, WE LOOK AT THOSE WORKING GROUPS AND HOW WE MANAGE THAT SITUATION.

AND ALSO THE, UH, CODE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING TO US.

AND SO IT'S MAYBE DISCUSSION OF PERHAPS RECONSIDERING THE FORMATION OF THE WORKING GROUPS THAT WILL HANDLE THOSE CODE CHANGES.

SO WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.

AT LEAST IT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE SOME CHANGES IF WE WANT TO, UH, DO I HAVE SUPPORT FOR THAT? OKAY.

UM, UN SIP FOR ME.

GOT A LONG LIST FOR MR. RIVERA WHEN IT COMES, COMES BACK.

AND PROVIDED TO, TO STAFF BY THE END OF THAT WEEK.

SO THE LAST ONE, UH, WHICH IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION LANDSCAPE AND SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS, IT'S A LOT AS WE TALKED ABOUT AND, UM, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, YOU WANNA GIVE US ANY UPDATES? YEAH, SO WE HELD A COUPLE OF WORKING GROUP LISTENING SESSIONS.

UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS FAIRLY LIGHTLY ATTENDED.

UH, THE SECOND ONE WAS, HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE THERE AND, AND WE GOT LOTS OF, OF GOOD FEEDBACK.

EVEN THE LIGHTLY ATTENDED ONE.

THE PEOPLE HAD A LOT TO SAY FOR THE, FOR THE HOUR THAT WE HAD.

UM, SO I, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE GOT THERE.

I THINK SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE THEMES THERE, THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN.

I THINK ONE OF THE BIG THEMES WAS IT'S REALLY HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE WITHOUT HAVING THE CRITERIA MANUAL RELEASED AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A, A NEW REQUIREMENT, BUT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING TO QUALIFY FOR THAT REQUIREMENT AS RELIEF FROM IT.

IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO, TO GIVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE IMPACT OF THIS IS GONNA BE ON, ON COST.

UM, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IT, IT WOULD HAVE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON COST.

UM, I THINK THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT ARE GOOD.

UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE CISTERNS, NOT COUNTING AS, AS IMPERVIOUS COVER AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THOSE ARE SMALL COMPARED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE GREEN WATER DETENTION, UM, AND ESPECIALLY IN DOWNTOWN.

SO I THINK THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS IT ALL, IS ALL OF THE CITY SHOULD BE IT, SHOULD WE BE TREATING IT THE SAME, UH, IN TERMS OF WATERSHED PROTECTION, WHEN THE COST OF, YOU KNOW, OF STORM WATER DETENTION AND GREEN STORM WATER TREATMENT DOWNTOWN IS SO SIGNIFICANT WHEN IT'S ALREADY ALMOST IMPERVIOUS AND, AND ALREADY ALMOST AT THE RIVER.

UM, AND COULD, COULD WE THINK THROUGH THAT, UM, SOME OTHER, OTHER IDEAS LIKE THAT, UM, WHAT WE'VE ASKED IS FOR EVERYBODY TO GET US THE, THE, WE WERE SPEAKING VERY HIGH, UM, LEVEL IDEAS, UH, AND NOT THE, YOU KNOW, SMALL, YOU KNOW, CODE AMENDMENTS THAT, THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE STRIKETHROUGHS AND, AND DELETIONS, UM, OF PARTICULAR SECTIONS.

SO WE'VE ASKED EVERYONE TO GET US THEIR CHANGES BY, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE 20TH, I'LL HAVE THE BACK AND LOOK, UM, SO THAT WE WOULD THEN HAVE AMENDMENTS WRITTEN

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AND TIME FOR OUR NEXT.

AND, UH, YEAH, I, I WANNA SAY I'VE BEEN REALLY PROUD OF THE WORKING GROUPS THAT WE'VE FORMED.

THEY HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND HAVE HELPED ADVISE THE REST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT WE, I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME REALLY MEANINGFUL AMENDMENTS TO THE VARIOUS CODES THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THIS, UH, GROUP.

SO I REALLY, UH, LIKE THE WORK THEY'VE DONE AND I'M SURE THIS ONE WILL BE QUITE EFFECTIVE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LEADING THAT.

UM, WELL, UH, ANY OTHER ITEMS WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA, IF THERE IS NO OPPOSITION, UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT 8 44.