* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] ALL RIGHT. UM, [Call to Order] WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CONVENE. UH, TODAY'S UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IT IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2022. WE'RE IN THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UH, HERE IN, UH, CITY HALL. UH, THE TIME IS, UH, 10, 12. WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS TODAY. UH, GUYS, I THINK AS OF YESTERDAY WE HAD 131 SPEAKERS SIGN UP TO SPEAK THIS MORNING, UH, AT 10, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS, UH, PROBABLY ARE SIGN UP AT THE KIOSK. I DON'T HAVE A FINAL NUMBER. UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, ANOTHER 40. SO, UH, UH, SPEAKERS, UH, I THINK, UH, ON THE, UH, ZONING, UH, TO BE CALLED AT TWO, IF WE START SPEAKERS RIGHT AWAY AND WE RUN EVERYBODY AT A MINUTE, WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE, AND IT WORKS REALLY FAST. THEN WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT 1230 TO FINISH SPEAKERS. UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, PUBLIC, UH, COMMUNICATIONS SPEAKERS THAT ARE SIGNED UP AT THREE MINUTES. EACH, IF WE GO STRAIGHT INTO THAT, IT GETS US INTO ONE O'CLOCK. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER YET AT THAT POINT IN TIME. AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHEN WE BREAK FOR LUNCH, UM, SO THAT, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THERE. SO LET'S GET TO THE SPEAKERS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, UH, CHANGES IN CORRECTIONS, READING INTO THE RECORD. UH, ITEM NUMBER 21 IS WITHDRAWN 31, UH, CONCERNS POLICE 37 IS WITHDRAWN. 38 IS POSTPONED TO SEPTEMBER 29TH, 2022 ITEM 42. TWO IS WITHDRAWN AND REPLACED BY ADDENDA ITEM 89. ITEM 65 IS RELATED TO ITEM 85 81 IS IN DISTRICT 7 85 SHOULD BE NOTICED THAT A VALID PETITION HAS BEEN FILED IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ZONING REQUEST. ITEM NUMBER 90, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS HAS JOINED AS A SPONSOR. THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THAT. UH, AND, UM, THE, UH, HEADER FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION SHOULD SAY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. WE HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION ITEMS, 53 59, UH, 66 AND 67 HAVE BEEN PULLED. I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THOSE, THOSE WILL MOVE FAIRLY QUICKLY. UH, ITEM NUMBER 54, UM, AND ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM NUMBER 61 IS THE COUNCILMAN BULL HOUSE ITEM 55 IS THE CONVENTION CENTER GARAGE, UH, ITEM ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM 60, ALSO BEING PULLED ITEM 56, WHICH IS THE LICENSE PLATE READER ITEM 86, 87 AND 91. UH, ALSO BEING PULLED. WE HAVE LATE BACKUP IN ITEMS 3 30, 1 49, 47, 49, 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 59 61 66, 72, 73, 77, 79 81 AND UH, 85, UH, BEFORE WE GET TO, UH, UH, SPEAKERS. UH, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING? COUNCIL MEMBER TOGO? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO PULL 29 AND 30 PLEASE. OKAY. 29 AND 30 ALSO BEING PULLED. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THOSE, UH, ARE QUICK ITEMS AND BUY QUICK ITEMS? THAT MEANS, UH, THEY'RE UP AND DOWN IN FIVE MINUTES. I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT. OKAY. I'M STILL THINK ABOUT THAT. AND ALSO 90 PLEASE. 93, NO 90. I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN PULLED AND I'M GONNA PULL THAT ONE AS WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. YES. UM, I'VE CIRCULATED A MOTION SHEET FOR ITEM 26. IT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO PULL THAT ITEM, BUT TO RATHER POSSIBLY ADOPT THAT ON CONSENT. THIS IS THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA ITEM. YES. AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON ALSO HAS AN AMENDMENT FOR THAT. UH, I THINK IF IT'S BEEN CIRCULATED, WE'LL SEE AGAIN, IF WE CAN HANDLE THOSE EXPEDITIOUSLY, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS THEM OR TALK ABOUT THEM, THEN WE'LL PULL THE ITEM AND, AND HANDLE IT IN DELIBERATIONS. WHICH NUMBER WAS THAT AGAIN? THAT WAS, UH, ITEM 26, WHICH IS THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. WE'RE GONNA SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT PULLING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS WITH US TODAY. YES. UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS A, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF FOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON'S FOR THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL. IF THERE WERE, IF THERE WAS A, I SAW THE MESSAGE BOARD POST, WAS THERE ALSO A [00:05:01] PARTICULAR MOTION FOR THE WORDING AND HOW IT WOULD APPEAR THERE? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CIRCULATED, UM, ON THE DI, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE THAT MY STAFF GETS YOU THAT, UH, UH, BY EMAIL AS WELL. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU, FOR, UH, FOR COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU BET. IF YOU COULD GET THOSE TO THE CLERK, SO THE CLERK CAN, UH, POST THEM INTO A BACKUP THAT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL. SO COMMUNITY CAN SEE IT AS WELL. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. UH, YES. SO ON ITEM 26, THE, UH, STATE LEGISLATOR AGENDA. YES. ITEM. UM, IS IT GONNA BE, UH, TOO LATE IF, UH, IF WE WROTE ON THAT TODAY AND ABOUT PUTTING IN AN AMENDMENT? NO, WE CAN PUT ON AMENDMENTS TODAY IF WE WANT TO, BECAUSE I, DURING THE VISIT OF BOSTON, I, I NOTICED THAT, UH, SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON ABOUT THE CAPITAL VIEW AND, UH, UH, IS THESE WIRES THAT ARE STRESSED ACROSS THAT, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE RAIL TRAIN HOOK UP TO, TO IT, AND THAT'S HOW IT RUNS. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, THAT IT'S GONNA BLOCK THE VIEW OF THE CAPITAL, WHICH I WENT DOWN THERE AND WE SAW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, UH, LINES GOING ACROSS THERE FOR THE LIGHTS INSECURITY, LIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE THERE IN THE SAFE WALKING LIGHTS FOR WHEN STUDENTS CROSS THE SCHOOL. AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S GONNA COST A TAXPAYER, ANOTHER BILLION DOLLARS TO PUT IT UNDERGROUND, JUST TO PROTECT THAT, THAT VIEW THAT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW SAYS THAT IT'S, UH, IT HAS, SHOULD BE A, IT HAS TO BE A STRUCTURE AND NOT A, AN ELECTRICAL LINE GOING ACROSS THE STREET. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PUT IN THERE ALSO. OKAY. IF YOU GO AHEAD AND WRITE THOSE THINGS UP OR GIVE NOTES, GIVE IT TO THE CLERK. IF WE HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, WE'LL PULL THAT ITEM AND HANDLE IT AS A, UH, PULLED, UH, ITEM. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY HAVE MORE THAN A QUICK THING TO TAKE CARE OF. [Public Comments (Part 1 of 3)] UH, BUT LET'S GO STARTED IN SPEAKERS, CUZ WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY PRETTY MUCH ALL MORNING HERE. UH, WE'RE GONNA START, I THINK WE SAID WITH, WAS IT REMOTE SPEAKERS THAT WORKED BEST FOR YOU? UH, AND I THINK THE FIRST SPEAKER, UM, UM, IS, UH, UH, AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE SPEAKER, CORRECT. SO THEY ENDED UP SENDING A VIDEO, SO THEY STILL RECEIVE THE TWO MINUTES. SO OKAY. IF WE CAN PLAY THAT AND IT'S TYRE TK, HELLO. MY NAME IS TYREE TALLY. I AM ORIGINALLY FROM ALABAMA AND MOVED TO AUSTIN, TEXAS IN 2014. AND THE REASON THAT I LOCATED HERE IS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SAFE PLACE WHERE I CAN BE PART OF SUCH A LARGE DEAF COMMUNITY, WHERE THERE ARE MANY ACTIVITIES, A LOT OF DIVERSE PEOPLE, AND WE HAVE GREAT TACOS IN AUSTIN. I LOVE AUSTIN. HOWEVER, ON MAY THE 30TH, MY LIFE WAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. I WENT INTO A BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTEST AND I WAS THERE THROUGHOUT THE DAY IN THE EVENING. AND THAT NIGHT, A P D ASSAULTED ME WITH RIFLES AND BULLETS PELLETS WITH INJURIES TO MY HEAD, MY BODY AND MY TOES. AND I WAS VERY FORTUNATE THAT MY EYES WERE NOT IMPACTED BEING DEAF. I COULD HAVE BEEN BLINDED. UM, I DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. I HAD NO WARNING AND UNFORTUNATELY I WENT THROUGH, UM, POST TRAUMATIC STRESS. I BECAME HOMELESS. I AM STILL SUFFERING WITH WHAT HAPPENED AND I AM TRYING TO ACHIEVE SOME EQUITY. A P D HAS PUT THE DEAF COMMUNITY AT A DISADVANTAGE. THEY HAVE NOT KEPT THEM IN THEIR THOUGHTS. DEAF PEOPLE RELY ON THEIR HANDS AND THEIR EYES TO COMMUNICATE. SO I THINK THAT THE CITY SHOULD REJECT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 56 AND SUPPORT AGENDA ITEM 86 MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AND THE COUNCIL FOR LISTENING TO MY STORY TODAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DAVID KING. THANK YOU. I AM SPEAKING ON THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES ITEMS, [00:10:01] AND I'M URGING YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDED COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES FOR LUXURY AND MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT. REDUCING THE RECOMMENDED COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES WILL SHIFT THE COSTS FOR PARKLAND FROM LUXURY AND MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENTS TO LOW END MIDDLE INCOME TAXPAYERS. AND YOU KNOW, THIS, IF DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T PAY ITS FAIR SHARE OF PARK END DEDICATION FEES, THOSE COSTS WILL BE SHIFTED TO LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME FAMILIES THROUGH HIGHER PARK USER FEES. AND YOU KNOW THAT TOO REDUCING OR DELAYING PARK END DEDICATION FEES IS INEQUITABLE AND LOW TO LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME FAMILIES. AND YOU KNOW THAT TOO. DON'T COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND TELL THE PUBLIC, WE NEED A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PARK BOND. IF YOU DON'T MAKE DEVELOPMENT, PAY ITS FAIR SHARE MANY OF YOU CAMPAIGN ON MAKING DEVELOPMENT, PAY FOR ITSELF, PLEASE HONOR YOUR COMMITMENT. PLEASE. DON'T BE LIKE OTHER POLITICIANS WHO GET URGE VOTERS TO SUPPORT THEM AND THEN TURN THEIR BACKS ON THEM WHEN THEY'RE IN POWER, WHEN THEY HAVE POWER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS SUSAN STA SPEAKING ON ITEM 56. HI, GOOD MORNING. UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, AS A MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, WITH GIVING THEM THE TECHNOLOGY AND TOOLS NEEDED TO SAVE LIVES, CATCH CRIMINAL, AND PROTECT US. UM, I REALLY CAN'T UNDERSTAND QUITE FRANKLY, WHY ANY CITY WOULD EVER DEFUND THEIR POLICE FORCE. UM, IT IS MY OPINION THAT WE HAD TAKEN AWAY THE TRUST AND RESPECT, UM, OF THE POLICE, UM, DEPARTMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SOME OF AUSTIN'S FINEST PEOPLE, MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, PROTECTING US AND GETTING OUT THERE EVERY DAY, UM, AND SAVING LIVES. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GIVE OUR AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. UM, YOU KNOW, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE BAD COPS. I RECOGNIZE THAT. UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THEY ARE THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING WITH US TODAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM DAVID HENSLEY ON ITEM 56 AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN, EF F BOARD MEMBER AND DISTRICT 12 RESIDENT I AGAINST ITEM 56 AND URGES YOU TO CONSIDER A FEW ISSUES REGARDING THE STATEMENT OF A LDRS VIGILANT SOLUTIONS. APTS PREVIOUS A LDR VENDOR FACE THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT IN 2020 FOR VIOLATING THE ILLINOIS BIOMETRIC INFORMATION, PRIVACY ACT VENDORS NEED TO BE PROPERLY AND THOROUGHLY VETTED FOR THEY TOO, HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA COLLECTED THE LIVES THAT YOU TO PROTECT WILL BE INHERENTLY LIABLE TO VARIOUS SAFETY THREATS SIMPLY BY THE NATURE OF SUCH DATA BEING COLLECTED WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS FUSION CENTERS COLLABORATING WITH APD HAVE FACED SECURITY BREACHES, WHICH HAVE LED LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA BEING LEAKED ONTO TO THE INTERNET, ANY AND ALL DATA COLLECTED OR CONTEXTUALIZED BY A P WILL BE VULNERABLE TO SUCH CATASTROPHE. THE CURRENT RESOLUTION DRAFT HAS A LOT OF LANGUAGE ABOUT THE PREVENTION OF DISCRIMINATORY POLICING PRACTICES. SUCH LANGUAGES HAS FAILED TO PREVENT SUCH PRACTICES IN THE PAST THE PREDICTIVE POLICING FOR WHICH A P DATABASES COULD SUPPORT WOULD ENSURE DISCRIM WORTH PRACTICES. I EMPLOY YOU TO LOOK UP THE WORKS OF LEGAL, LEGAL SCHOLAR, ANDREW FERGUSON, FOR MORE DETAILS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION JAMIE SEPATA ON ITEM 56. HI, MY NAME'S JAMIE SEPATA. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE, UM, AND HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS AS A, UH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE INVESTIGATOR IN CAPITAL MURDER CASES AND WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 56, UM, AGAINST, UH, TRYING TO ENACT A VERY AUTHORITARIAN SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, TO BE PRETTY INEFFECTIVE. AND WE SEE CONSTANTLY IN MY WORK, THE WAY THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE USED TO VIOLATE FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF CITIZENS AND ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY WEAPONIZED AGAINST THE POOR AND PEOPLE OF COLOR. I WAS REALLY DISMAYED TO HEAR THAT MY OWN COUNCIL MEMBER AND KITCHEN IS A SPONSOR OF THIS KIND OF, UH, USELESS PROGRAM THAT WE SEE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. UH, BEING USED TO, UH, TARGET ALMOST ENTIRELY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT, UH, GUILTY OF ANY CRIME WHATSOEVER. UH, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. CLEO PETRI CHECK ON 56, [00:15:02] I AM A LATINA DEMOCRAT AND MOM AND IDENTIFYING STOLEN CARDS AS A NORM BENEFIT BENEFIT OF LPRS, BUT IT CAN ALSO EXONERATE THE INNOCENT ALIGN WITH AMBER AND SILVER ALERTS IN ASSISTING OFFICERS AND FINDING MISSING PERSONS. LET'S TALK ABOUT KIDNAPPING MURDER AND HIDDEN RUN CASES THAT WERE SOLVED USING LPRS PEDRO, ER, WAS CHARGED WITH 18 FELONY CO COUNTS INVOLVING NINE SEPARATE SHOOTINGS AND WAS ARRESTED. THANKS TO LPR DATA IN SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA, AN OFFICER WAS ALERTED OF A STOLEN VEHICLE BY HIS PATROL CAR MOUNTED LCR SYSTEM. AFTER FURTHER INVESTIGATION, THE OFFICER DISCOVERED THE VEHICLE WAS LINKED TO THE KIDNAPPING OF A 12 YEAR OLD GIRL. THANKFULLY HE WAS CHARGED, UH, FOR KIDNAPPING ENFORCEABLE CHILD MOLEST STATION IN ROSEVILLE, ROSEVILLE, CALIFORNIA, A 76 YEAR OLD MAN WAS KILLED IN A HIDDEN RUN ACCIDENT. UH, WITNESS THIS WE'RE ABLE TO CAPTURE PARTIAL LICENSE PLATE OF THE CAR, WHICH WAS PROVIDED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SOLVE THAT CASE. AS OF MAY 1ST, 2022, 1,114. CHILDREN HAVE BEEN RECOVERED AS A RESULT OF THE AMBER ALERT PROGRAM. 70% OF ALL CRIMES ARE COMMITTED WITH THE USE OF A MOTOR VEHICLE AND THE A L P CAN SEARCH THE FBI'S NATIONAL CRIME INFORMATION CENTER, HOT LIST. THANK YOU. SPEAKER TIME HAS EXPIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT, ANOTHER TOOL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. STANLEY TE TELL STAR ON ITEM 56. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL ALLOW ME TO SPEAK WITH THE RELAY SOME PERSPECTIVE FROM AN ORDINARY CONSTITUENT FOR WHICH YOU ALL REPRESENT. UH, ACCORDING TO TRAVIS COUNTY, TX.GOV AND EXPIRED LICENSE PLATE AND REGISTRATION COMES, UH, A COMPANY WITH A FINE OF $181 FOR A GRANT TOTAL OF $267 50 CENTS. DO YOU GET PULLED OVER AND TICKETED, UM, IS EVEN FURTHER LIKE PAY TO PLAY. SO DO WE THINK IT MATTERS IF SOMEONE IN A TESLA FORGOT, UH, TO RENEW VERSUS SOMEONE THAT'S LIKE WAITING IN THREE WEEKS FOR THEIR PAYCHECK TO COME IN AND THEY JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW, LIKE SOMEONE THAT LIKE LITERALLY CAN'T FIND IT IN THEIR MONTHLY BUDGET TO GET THEIR CAR INSPECTED AND REGISTRATION ON TIME. UM, BUT I REALLY WANNA CHALLENGE LIKE WHY THIS DECISION IS ON OUR FEET IN AN AGE OF SURVEILLANCE. WE'RE CONSIDERING HANDING OVER THIS TECHNOLOGY TO THE SAME PEOPLE THAT LET RAPE TEST KITS, MOLD DUE TO THEIR APATHY AND OR COMPETENCE. UM, I DON'T KNOW. I, I, I HOPE NOT. MAYBE IT'S SAID D DREDGE UP FUNDING FOR THE CITY FOR THE COUNTY, BUT LET'S GO TO THE NUMBERS. RIGHT? SO MOVE.ORG. UM, THE SECOND WORST CITY, THE SECOND WORST CITY IN AMERICA FOR MINIMUM WAGE EARNERS IS OUR VERY OWN AUSTIN, TEXAS. LET'S KEEP IT. WE RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED REPORT SHANE ING ON ITEM 56. HELLO, MY NAME IS SHANE ING. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL TODAY. UM, I WANTED TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST ITEM 56, BRINGING BACK THE AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER IS A TOOL OF MASS SURVEILLANCE. AND I THINK AS BUSINESS, WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE AGAINST TOOLS OF MASS SURVEILLANCE. THE POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE IS NOT EVEN SHOWN ANYTIME THE DATA'S COLLECTED, IT CAN BE ABUSED. AND I, WHILE AS SOMEONE WHO DOES SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BELIEVE IN, IN POSITIVE POLICE REFORM, I THINK THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND WAYS TO BRING ABOUT MORE OF A WIN-WIN SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE. AND I HOPE WE CAN WORK TO, TO UNCOVER THAT AND NOT BRING ABOUT TOOLS SUCH AS THE AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE THINK DECEPTIVELY MIGHT, UM, IMPROVE CRIME, UM, AT A COST OF, OF SECURITY, PRIVACY, AND LIBERTY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REBECCA SANCHEZ ON ITEM 56. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS REBECCA SANCHEZ, UH, LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE. UM, I AM ALSO CALLING ON ITEM NUMBER 56 AGAINST THE AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER. I KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY, UH, AN AMENDMENT GOING AROUND TODAY THAT TRYING TO LIMIT THE SHARING OF THE DATA. AND I WOULD WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. AND I WOULD SAY THE BEST WAY TO LIMIT THAT IS TO NOT COLLECT IT. THIS IS A PIECE OF MASS SURVEILLANCE AND IT WILL BE WEAPONIZED. AND I THINK WE JUST KEEP OPENING THE DOOR TO MORE AND MORE, UM, JUST SURVEILLANCE ACROSS THE CITY. AND ONCE THAT DATA IS COLLECTED, IT WILL BE WEAPONIZED AGAINST ITS OWN PEOPLE. SO I URGE YOU ALL POLICE SAY NO TO ITEM NUMBER 56. THE POLICE DO NOT NEED MORE TOOLS IN THEIR TOOLBOX. IF IT'S BEEN FRAMED, THEY ARE FINE. THEY ARE ONE OF THE THEY'RE WELL FUNDED AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE WELL FUNDED TODAY TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE. SO I THINK THAT IDEA OF IT BEING [00:20:01] JUST AN ADDITIONAL TOOL IS NOT TAKING INTO FACT THE HARM THAT IT CAN AND WILL BE USED TO CAUSE THINKING CHRISTINA SWANSON ON ITEM 56. HI, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA SWANSON. I'M A REGISTERED NURSE HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND I WORKED IN THE HOSPITAL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PANDEMIC. I AM THE WIFE OF A, UH, WONDERFUL WOMAN AS A QUEER PERSON HERE IN AUSTIN. AND I AM THE MOTHER OF A, UH, BIRACIAL DAUGHTER. THE POLICE HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY DO NOT CARE FOR AND DO NOT RESPECT PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE MY DAUGHTER. SO I AM WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE AGAINST ITEM 56 IN ACCURATE READS OR SURPRISINGLY COMMON ONE RANDOMIZED CONTROL STUDY SHOWED IN VIA CALIFORNIA THAT 37% OF ALL LTR HITS FROM FIXED READERS. AND 35% FROM MOBILES WERE MISREAD. THE ONLY SECURE DATA IS DATA THAT ISN'T COLLECTED AT ALL. UK SHOWED US THAT, UM, THEIR INFORMATION WAS LEAKED TO THE INTERNET. SO PLEASE VOTE AGAINST ITEM 56. THE POLICE DO NOT NEED ANYTHING FROM US. TODD HITTNER 56 MORNING. THIS IS TODD HINER DISTRICT FIVE RESIDENT THIS MORNING. I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF ITEM 56, THE AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS. AUSTIN IS KNOWN AS A HIGH TECH CITY LICENSE PLATE. READERS ARE HIGH TECH. THEY CAN ASSIST LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH SILVER ALERTS, AMBER ALERTS AND KIDNAPPINGS SILVER ALERTS HELP LOCATE ELDERLY MISSING CITIZENS. AMBER ALERTS HELP LOCATE ENDANGERED MISSING AND ABDUCTED CHILDREN AND KIDNAPPINGS ARE NOT TYPICALLY STANDALONE OFFENSES. OFTEN THEY LEAD TO MORE HEINOUS CRIMES. THE COST IS A MERE 114,000 7 75 OR 0.02, 3% OF OUR BUDGET. UH, IT WOULD SEEM THAT EVERYONE ON COUNCIL SHOULD SUPPORT, ASSISTING AND LOCATING ARE LOST ELDERLY, MISSING CHILDREN AND VICTIMS OF KIDNAPPING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME GUMBO. VERTO ON ITEM 56 AND 86. GOOD MORNING, THURSDAY MORNING. HEAR ME ON THIS, BUT MY NAME IS GUMBO. I PRONOUN. I'M A RESIDENT VIRGINIA FIVE FRAUD MEMBER, 1624, AUSTIN DSA. I'M A ITEM 56 AND FOR ITEM 86, THE DOCTOR OVERSIGHT, UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO PUT A INTO A BAG, UH, BECAUSE A PROGRAM IS REALLY LETTING A DATA, LARGE FAT OUT OF A VERY SMALL BAG DATA COLLECTION PROGRAM WITH ONCE DONE CANNOT BE STOPPED. AND THAT'S SIMPLY NOT HOW DATA WORKS, NO MATTER HOW MANY DATA SECURITY APPEARANCES WE PUT UP, IT WILL BE SHARED WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT ARE UNACCOUNTABLE TO HARM THINKING OF ACCOUNTABILITY. IT WOULD BE IRONIC TO THAT THE, A PROGRAM AND NOT PASS TO THAT. FOR YEARS, 20 YEARS, YOU'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THE BARE MINIMUM OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT AND PUTTING THE P OFF IN THE MIDAL DELAY THAT NECESSARY OVERSIGHT AND CAPTURING YOUR OWN LEVERAGE AND NEGOTIATING OVER 30,000 COLLECTED ON A POSITION THAT DEMONSTRATES YOUR DESIRE AND NEEDS TO OVERSIGHT. AND I HEARD YOU PASS OUT MY TIME. I HAD DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING THAT SPEAKERS BREAKING UP. IF YOU COULD CALL THAT SPEAKER. AND IF THAT SPEAKER COULD GET A BETTER CONNECTION, UH, WE CAN PUT HIM BACK IN THE QUEUE AND HAVE HIM COME BACK AGAIN. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. LINDSAY. IGNATOWSKI ON 56 AND 86. HI, I WANNA MAKE SURE MY AUDIO'S OKAY. UM, MY NAME IS LINDSEY IGNA HOKI. SHE, THEY PRONOUNS AND I'M A MEMBER OF A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FOUR. THANKS COUNCIL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'RE DOING. AND I DID WANNA SAY TO, UM, PLEASE DO NOT VOTE TO PASS THE AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS. WE'VE HEARD SO MUCH OF THE HARM, BUT ALSO I'M ONE OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT HELP COLLECT 33,000 SIGNATURES ALL SUMMER AND SUPPORT OF THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY CLERK WAS NOT ABLE TO VERIFY THE SIGNATURES IN TIME, BUT WE DID REACH THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF SIGNATURES NEEDED TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT TIMING, UM, IT WOULD BE FOR THE MAY BALLOT INSTEAD OF NOVEMBER, WHICH IS JUST TOO LONG TO HAVE EFFECTS ON, UM, THE EFFECTS WE NEED FOR THE UPCOMING POLICE CONTRACT. SO I WANNA ASK CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE HONOR THESE 33,000 AUSTIN THAT HAVE ASKED FOR THIS AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT AND PASS FOR THE [00:25:05] CTO ON 56 86. HI, I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE. I'M CALLING TO SPEAK IN AGAINST 56 IN, IN FAVOR OF THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT, LISTENING TO THE TESTIMONY OF OTHERS. I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THE REASONS CITED TO PASS 56 ARE HIGHLY ANECDOTAL AND THE REASONS NOT TO PASS 56, HAVE TO DO WITH SYSTEMIC STUDIES OF HOW EFFECTIVE LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE AND HOW THEY'RE MISUSED. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST IT. IN TERMS OF PASSING THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT. UM, I JUST URGE COUNSEL NOT TO DO MOST OF ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT WITH OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES BEING ON THE BARGAINING TABLE WITH THE POLICE, PLEASE PASS THIS. WE NEED IT IN PLACE. WE NEED TO NOT HAVE ANOTHER FOUR YEARS. THANK YOU, LYNN SPRAGUE ON 56 AND 86. MY NAME IS LYNN SBR AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. UM, I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF YOU ALL PASSING ITEM 86, THE APO A, UH, WITHOUT DELAY. UM, AS THE PREVIOUS CALLER MENTIONED, WE CANNOT WAIT FOR THE LOW TURNOUT MAY ELECTIONS TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL AND DESPERATELY NEEDED POLICE OVERSIGHT. THE CITY OF AUSTIN NEEDS THIS LEGISLATION IN PLACE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE IT'S THERE BEFORE POLICE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS HAPPEN. I'M ALSO SPEAKING AGAINST ITEM 56, A THIS TECHNOLOGY'S RISKS FAR OUTWEIGH ANY BENEFITS, INCLUDING RISK TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND VICTIMS OF STALKING, AND ALSO THE RISKS TO OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE KNOW THAT ICE REGULARLY SEEKS AND USES THIS DATA TO DISCERN THE DAILY PATTERNS OF OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND DETAINS AND DEPORTS THEM WITHOUT WARRANTS THROUGH TRAFFIC STOPS. THIS IS A DIRECT CONTRADICTION OF OUR CITY'S SANCTUARY COMMITMENTS AND SHOULD NOT BE PASSED. THANK YOU, ANDY COCO ON 56 AND 86, ANDY COCO DISTRICT ONE. SO WHEN YOU ADD EVERYONE WHO ARE WORKING CLASS OR IMMIGRANTS OR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR FAMILIES WITH TRANS KIDS, ABORTION SEEKERS, WOW, YOU END UP WITH A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE. UH, THOSE ARE THOSE OF US BEARING THE BRUNT OF SOCIAL PROGRESS, BACKLASH THROUGH CRIMINALIZATION OF OUR VERY EXISTENCE FOR SOME OF US, AND MAYBE SOME OF YOU, AT LEAST ONE IDENTITY IN THAT LIST APPLIES TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON WE LOVE. A L P ARE TOUTED AS AN OCCASIONAL HELPER, BUT ARE UNJUST SURVEILLANCE AND AN EASY AVENUE TO FURTHER PUNISH THOSE OF US WHO ARE ALREADY OVERLY POLICED, VIOLATING EVERYONE'S FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS IN EXCHANGE FOR RARE BENEFITS, NOT A FAIR EXCHANGE. I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF, UH, AGAINST ITEM 56 AND IN FAVOR OF POLICE OVERSIGHT WITH PEACE AND WITHOUT DELAY. THANK YOU. MAGDALENE BURNS 56 AND 86. MICHELLE MANNING SCOTT ON ITEM 56 AND 86. I AM A REGISTERED VOTER RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN, AND I AM IN FAVOR OF ITEM 86 POLICE OVERSIGHT NOW WITH NO DELAY AND AGAINST ITEM 56, A L P ON AUGUST 31ST, 2022, THE A P D O P RECEIVED THIS PHONE COMPLAINT. THE COMPLAINT ALLEGES HER SON WAS ARRESTED BY A P D FOR WALKING ON THE STREET, WALKING ON THE STREET IS NOT A CRIME. HE WAS CHARGED WITH NOT PROVIDING AN ID. HER SON HAS A MENTAL DISORDER AND MAYBE HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION HE WAS BEING ASKED BY A P D. HER SON IS NOT FROM AUSTIN AND DOES NOT KNOW ANYONE HERE HE'S BEING HELD IN IMMIGRATION INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HELP HER SON, THEY ARRESTED HIM AND HE DID NOT COMMIT ANY CRIME. SHE WANTS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE SITUATION. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MENTAL HEALTH TEAM INSTEAD OF HE JUST CROSSED THE BORDER. HER SON HAS BEEN HERE FOR YEARS, PAYS TAXES AND WENT TO SCHOOL. THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HER SON KNOW HIS MENTAL STATE, HER SON RESPECTS THE POLICE AND HE WAS PROBABLY NERVOUS. DID NOT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THE POLICE. HE LOST HIS PHONE AND MONEY. HER SON PULLED THE POLICE. HE, HER SON TOLD [00:30:01] HER THE POLICE TOOK HIS ID. WHY DID THE POLICE THROUGH YOUR TIME? HASN'T EXPIRED. THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. WE HAVE MR. VROS BACK ON THE LINE. THANK YOU. UH, GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME BETTER NOW? YES, WE CAN PLEASE GO AHEAD. OH, BEAUTIFUL. GOOD MORNING, THURSDAY MORNING. MY NAME IS GUMBO. YOU SAY THEM PRONOUNS. I'M AT 50 65 JOB MEMBER OF 1624 IN AUSTIN DSA AGAIN, ITEM 56 AND FOR ITEM 86, UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER TRIED TO FOOT A CAT INTO A BAG, UH, CAUSE PASSING THE A RPR PROGRAM WILL BE LETTING A DANGEROUS AND LARGE CAT OUT OF A REALLY SMALL BAG. IT'S A DATA COLLECTION PROGRAM, WHICH ONCE THE GUN CANNOT BE STOPPED AND IT'S JUST NOT HOW DATA WORKS, NO MATTER HOW MANY APPEARANCES THE SECURITY PUT UP, IT WILL BE SHARED WITHOUT SENDING UNAC ACCOUNTABLE PEOPLE INVOLVED. WE USE TO FIND PEOPLE IN THE CITY, SPEAKING OF ACCOUNTABILITY, IT WOULD BE IRONIC TO FACT IT WITHOUT PASSING APO. FOR YEARS UPON YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN ASKING TO THE BARE MINIMUM OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT AND PUTTING THE APO OFF TO THE MAY BALLOT, FURTHER DELAYS THAT NECESSARY OVERSIGHT, HAMS YOUR OWN LEVERAGE IN NEGOTIATING INSTITUTION. SO FAST APO NO DELAY AND YIELD TIME. THANK YOU. MAGDALENE BURNS BURN SAID ALICIA. THORE ON 56, MARA KENNY ON 56 AND 86. HI, MY NAME'S MA KING. I LIVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN. I AM A LICENSED SOCIAL WORKER HERE IN AUSTIN. I AM SPEAKING AGAINST ITEM 56. I FEEL REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF A P ON SPECIFICALLY IMMIGRANT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. MAY RATHER HAVE ADMITTED THAT THE CITY WOULD BE LEGALLY BOUND TO TURNOVER, DATED ICE IF REQUESTED. OKAY. VOCATION DATA CAN ALREADY BE SHARED WITH ICE FOR CIVIL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, WHICH CAUSES FAMILIES TO BE SEPARATED THROUGH DETENTION AND DEPORTATION. MAYBE D HAS PREVIOUSLY SHARED UNNECESSARY INFORMATION WITH ICE THROUGH THE AIR FUSION CENTER. I'M ALSO SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF COUNCIL PASSING ITEMS, 66, THE AUSTIN POLICE POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT. THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO CONCEDE EVEN MORE MONEY IN FOR YEARS TO COME BY STATE LEGISLATION IN EXCHANGE FOR EXTREMELY BASIC AND MINIMAL TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT FROM THE AUSTIN POLICE ASSOCIATION. PLEASE DO NOT WAIT FOR THE LOW TURNOUT. MY ELECTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GREG LEON ON 56, 86, 87 AND 91. HI, MY NAME'S GREG BOSLEY. I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT THREE AND A MEMBER OF AUSTIN DSA. AND I'M JOINING THE CHORUS OF CITIZENS WHO ARE TESTIFYING AGAINST FUNDING FOR ARS AND IN SUPPORT OF, UM, THE DIRECT PASSAGE OF, UH, THE APO A, UM, WE'VE HEARD THAT THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT A LS REDUCE CRIME. UM, IT DOESN'T TAKE AN EXPERT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE BROAD SWEEPING SURVEILLANCE METHODS THAT WERE PIONEERED DURING THE FAILED WAR ON DRUGS, UM, DON'T KEEP US SAFE. SURVEILLANCE TOOLS HAVE, AND WILL ALWAYS BE USED TO TARGET SOCIAL AND POLITICAL MOVEMENTS AND VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY AND OUR COUNTRY. THE CITY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PREVENT ICE AND OTHER AGENCIES FROM USING ARS TO SEPARATE FAMILIES USING CRUEL DETENTION AND DEPORTATION, UM, AND TO TRACK PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING ABORTION. UH, WE ALSO MUST PASS THE APO A WITHOUT DELAY. IN ADDITION TO POLICE ABUSE OF SURVEILLANCE, UM, A P D'S USE OF VIOLENCE TO INJURING KILL WORKING CLASS BLACK AND BROWN CITIZENS, IMMIGRANTS, WOMEN, AND THE LOCAL NATIONAL MASS UPRISINGS AND PROTESTED. THESE POLICIES, UM, UH, SHOWED THAT WE NEED URGENT ACTION. ACTION SPEAKER. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU, CONNOR. BROY ON 56 AND 86. HI, GOOD MORNING. TODAY. I'M CONNOR. BROY HE HIM? I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OF ITEM 56. WE REJECT THE USE OF A L P IN AUSTIN AND [00:35:01] IN FAVOR OF ITEM 86 TO IMMEDIATELY ENACT POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, THE ALLOW APD TO TRACK AND SHARE THE WHEREABOUTS OF THOSE SEEKING THE PORTIONS TO OUTSIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WILL CRIMINALIZE HEALTHCARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, UNDERMINING RACIST PROTECTIONS, TEXAS CRIME REPORTS ALSO SHOW A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN CRIME SOLVE EVERY SINGLE YEAR THE A WERE ORIGINALLY IN USE. SO DESPITE THE CITY GIVING AWAY OUR PRIVACY, YOU ALSO PAY THE DEPARTMENT MORE EVERY SINGLE YEAR TO DO THEIR JOB WORSE JUST AS WE NO LONGER HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEFUND A FAILING DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE NO WAY OF STOPPING THE STATE FROM LIVE ACCESS. THE AAL MEANING AIM DATA COLLECTED REGARDLESS OF ITS HEALTH FOR 30 DAYS OR 30 SECONDS COULD END. THIS COULD BE STASHED BY THE STATE FOR ETERNITY. A ALSO HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL LACK OF OVERSIGHT AND NO FEASIBLE ACCOUNTABILITY. CODE FRACTIONS ONLY HAVE A RISE TO AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION OR REFERENCE TO OVERSIGHT BOARD, BOTH OF WHICH CAN SWEPT AWAY DUE TO A LACK OF CASE TO EMBARRASS THE DEPARTMENT. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CAREFUL CONSIDERATION TODAY ON HOW WILLING YOU ARE TO GIVE A WEAPON TO A FAMILY DEPARTMENT THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN BACK. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. YEAH. CLAUDIA MUN ON 56. HI, UM, MY NAME IS CLAUDIA MUNEZ. I LIVE IN DISTRICT, UM, NINE AND I AM THE COURT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF GRASS ISSUES. I'M CALLING TO REGISTER OPPOSITION. ONE OF THE FIRST CALLERS TOLD YOU HOW PHYSICAL WEAPONS OF POLICING ACTUALLY HEARD HIM A LOT. THE, A PS ARE NOT PHYSICAL. THEY'RE SOMETHING THAT YOU CANNOT SEE THEY'RE NOT TANGIBLE. AND THIS GREAT CITY THAT PRIDES ITSELF IN BEING TECH FORWARD UNDERSTANDS VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE ADAPTATION OF POLICING TOOLS. A DATA CAN BE SHARED, MAINTAINED AND SOLD WITHOUT YOU EVEN KNOWING. SO I INVITE ALL OF YOU TO, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GIVE THE POLICE NEW WEAPONS THAT MOST OF YOU HONESTLY DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND. UM, AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE CONTRACTING HAPPENS, HOW THE SELLING HAPPENS, THAT YOU GET TO KNOW THAT TECHNOLOGY BETTER INSTEAD OF JUST BLANKET GIVING THE POLICE MORE TOOLS TO BE USED AGAINST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. SO PLEASE DON'T KNOW ON ITEM 56. THANK YOU, SAM. PATAS ON 56 AND 86. HI, MY NAME IS SAM PATAS. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN AND I AM, UH, ING COUNCIL TO VOTE TOUR, UH, 86 AND AGAINST 86, JUST ADDING TO THE COURSE AS ALREADY SPOKEN HERE TODAY. UM, SOMEONE SPOKE ABOUT THE AMENDMENT OF LIMITING THE DATA SHARING, UM, FOR 56 AND HOPING, HELPING TO PASS IT THAT WAY. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, A BILL OF A BILL OF FALSE GOODS. UH, THERE'S REALLY, THE ONLY WAY TO COLLECT DATA SAFELY IS TO NOT COLLECT IT AT ALL. WE HEARD HOW, UH, HARMFUL THESE PROGRAMS CAN BE. UM, SO I REALLY HOPE YOU ENACT THESE OVERSIGHT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND DO NOT PASS THIS HARMFUL, UH, SURVEILLANCE TOOL IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU, BEN SU TO BE ITEM 56, 86 AND 87. HI, I'M BEN SETE RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FOUR. I USE HE HIM L PRONOUNS. I WANTED TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 56 IN FAVOR OF 86 AND AGAINST 87. UH, AS WE'VE HEARD MANY PEOPLE MENTION, THE ONLY WAY TO SECURE, UH, IS TO SECURE THAT DATA IS TO NOT COLLECT IT AT ALL. THERE'S NO LEGAL MECHANISM THAT YOU HAVE TO PREVENT THE STATE FROM FORCING YOU TO SHARE THAT DATA IN REAL TIME WITH DPS, WHO'S TRYING TO GO AFTER PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING ABORTION, HEALTHCARE OR HEALTHCARE FOR THEIR TRANS KIDS, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO PREVENT ICE FROM GATHERING THAT DATA TO TARGET OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. FRANKLY, I AM SHOCKED TO SEE SOME OF THE SPONSORS ON ITEM 56, AND IT CALLS INTO QUESTION YOUR DEDICATION TO THE PROTECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. MANY OF THE ARGUMENTS OF THOSE WHO HAVE SPOKEN IN FAVOR, HE DISCONNECTED. SO WE WILL CALL HIM SO THAT HE CAN CONCLUDE HIS STATEMENT. CASSIE SODO ON 56, 86, 87 91. HI, MY NAME IS CASSIE SORAN SHE? HER PRONOUNS. I'M A DISTRICT NINE RESIDENT AND I'M SPEAKING AGAINST A L P AND IN SUPPORT OF THE A P A I ALSO OPPOSE ITEMS, 87 AND 91. UH, DATA SHOWS A L P ARE LARGELY INEFFECTIVE. WE DON'T NEED TOOLS OF [00:40:01] MASS SURVEILLANCE, PERPETUATING HARM BY PUTTING RESIDENTS ALREADY UNJUSTLY DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AT RISK. THE SYSTEM WE HAD IN 2019 GAVE ICE AGENTS AND OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS DIRECT ACCESS TO PEOPLE'S DATA. BOTTOM LINE, WE CAN'T TRUST A P D WITH DATA ON THE MOVEMENTS OF PEOPLE, NOT SUSPECTED OF VIOLATING ANY LAW. IT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY HARM MORE PEOPLE THAN IT WILL HELP, UH, TO THINK OTHERWISE IS A GRAVE AND MORAL MISTAKE. FURTHERMORE, I SUPPORT THE APO A AS IT WILL DETER POLICE BRUTALITY AND MISCONDUCT AND CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY. THE CURRENT POLICE CONTRACT PROHIBITS OPO OR ANYONE ELSE BESIDES THE POLICE FROM GATHERING EVIDENCE OR INTERVIEWING WITNESSES, THE APO A WILL ALLOW ALL LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS TO BE INVESTIGATED AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE INSTEAD OF IGNORED. WHAT MORAL REASON IS THERE TO VOTE AGAINST TRANSPARENCY? UH, PLEASE SUPPORT THE APO A AND REJECT AL THANK YOU, SARAH SUMMERS ON 56, 86, 87 AND 91. HI, MY NAME IS SARAH SUMMERS AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE. I'M A SINGLE PARENT, A GRADUATE STUDENT AT UT AND A MEMBER OF THE SOCIAL ACTION COUNCIL AT BIRTH HUMANITARIAN UNIVERSALIST CHURCH, AUSTIN. I'M CALLING YOU TO SPEAK AGAINST A L P AND FORD, A P A A L GET EVERYONE'S LICENSE PLATE. YET ONLY 0.0 0.5% OF THESE SCANS ARE CONNECTED TO ANY CRIME. ADDITIONALLY, AS OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, DATA IS STORED AND MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DATA COLLECTED FROM A LPR HAS BEEN LEAKED BEFORE, LIKE IN THE UK, AS ANOTHER SPEAKERS POINTED OUT, I'LL REMIND YOU THAT A ARE PROVEN TO BE UP TO 35% INACCURATE, TEXAS A AND M RESEARCH HAS ALSO SHOWN THAT WEATHER CAN AFFECT A CAMERA'S ABILITY TO READ A LICENSE PLATE CORRECTLY. WE'VE ALSO SEEN PRIVATE DATA USED TO TARGET WOMEN SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE CARE ALREADY. AS WHEN FACEBOOK SHARE INFORMATION WITH POLICE, A L P R DATA, UH, CAN BE USED AND WEAPONIZED IN THIS WAY. POLICE DO NOT RENEW THIS CONTRACT WITH AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE LEADERS FOR APO A CITY COUNCIL MADE A COMMITMENT TO REALIZING RACIAL JUSTICE AND EQUITY IN 2020. AND WE KNOW A HUGE PART OF THIS INCLUDES POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, THE A WILL HELP PROTECT BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES IN OUR CITY AND WAIT FOR THE MAY BALLOT. THANK SPEAKER. TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU, ALICIA TORRES ON 56. HELLO. MY NAME IS TORRES. I'M CALLING TO I'M A MEMBER OF DISTRICT, UH, THREE, AND I'M CALLING, UM, AGAINST ITEM SIX AND IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 86, IT SHOULD BE ITEM 86 SHOULD BE PASSED. UM, TODAY WE ARE CITY THAT, UM, THROUGH ACTION REALLY WANTS SENT, UH, THOSE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED, UM, IN REGARDS TO AUTOMAT LICENSE PLATE RE UH, AUTOMAT LICENSE PLATE READERS. I THINK THE, THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN LOUDLY CLEAR TODAY. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID AWAY IN 2020, BECAUSE IT SHARED THAT IT DIDN'T KEEP US SAFE. UM, I THINK, AND THE OTHER MEMBERS HAVE OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT UP THAT THIS IS A TOOL THAT WITHOUT ANY TRUE AND HONEST, INTENTIONAL POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY CAN AND WILL BE WEAPONIZED AGAINST US. UM, WE ALSO SHOULD NOT BE LED TO BELIEVE THAT IF, UM, PROVIDED THIS TOOL, UM, THIS DATE WILL NOT COME IN AND FURTHER WEAPONIZE IT AGAINST US. WE SHOULD NOT ALIGN OURSELVES TO THE STATE OF OUR, OF OUR STATE AND THE MOVEMENT TO THE EXTREME RIGHTS THAT WE'RE DOING AND, UM, TO PRETEND TO PROTECT US VIA SOME AMENDMENT. THANK YOU, SPEAKER YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED, NOT PASS LIST FOR TODAY. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING WITH US TODAY. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MEGAN. MEGAN MARVIN ON 56, 86, 87 AND 91. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MEGAN MARVIN. I LIVE IN WORK IN DISTRICT THREE. I DO NOT SUPPORT REINSTATING A L P CAUSE THE POLICE SHOULD NOT POSSESS THAT KIND OF DATA WITHOUT A WARRANT. AND IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY IRRESPONSIBLE IF YOU APPROVE A LPRS WITHOUT PASSING THE POLICE OVERSIGHT ORDINANCE DIRECTLY AND IMMEDIATELY WAITING FOR A LOW TURNOUT ELECTION IS NO MORE DEMOCRATIC THAN PASSING AN ACT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY OVER 30,000 CONSTITUENTS. NOW, THE DELAYING UNTIL MAY IS EFFECTIVELY A DELAY UNTIL 2027. AND YOU KNOW THAT THE CONSEQUENCE OF ANY DELAY WOULD BE BORN BY THE SAME GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN BEARING THE BURDEN OF POLICE MISCONDUCT [00:45:01] ALL ALONG LIKE OUR FIRST SPEAKER. AND YOU KNOW THAT TOO, IF OFFICERS KNOW THEY WILL FACE DISCIPLINE FOR MISCONDUCT IN BRUTALITY, THEY WILL DO IT LESS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. LOGAN MORALES, HELLO CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LOGAN MORALES AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FIVE. I'M SPEAKING TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT AND ITS IMMEDIATE PATHOGEN TO LAW BY COUNCIL. I UNDERSTAND SOME OF YOU WANT TO DELAY A VOTE ON THIS UNTIL MAY IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THE VOTERS SAY, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE VOTERS SAY. I SPENT THIS SUMMER ACTUALLY TALKING TO THEM AND ASKING THEM TO SIGN A PETITION THAT WOULD CREATE A SYSTEM OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH THIS ACT. OUR SMALL TEAM COLLECTED OVER 33,000 SIGNATURES AND JUST A, A FEW SHORT MONTHS. SO WE ALREADY KNOW THIS HAS BROUGHT VOTER SUPPORT. ADDITIONALLY, I'M VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THE NOTION THAT WE SHOULD DELAY THE VOTE BECAUSE THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY PRIVILEGED STANCE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE. MAYBE YOU CAN AFFORD TO DELAY THIS VOTE, BUT THINK OF ALL OF THE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES IN AUSTIN WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO WA PLEASE ACCOUNTABILITY, PLEASE MISCONDUCT IS HAPPENING NOW. AND IT'S GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING UNTIL MAY. AT THE VERY LEAST, THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT. AND THIS ACT IS THE WAY TO DO IT. WE NEED POLICE OVERSIGHT. NOW, NOT LATER ALSO TO LEAVE OFF, I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON A THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. BEN SU AS MANY CALLERS HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED, WE NEED POLICE OVERSIGHT RIGHT NOW. NO DELAY THERE'S OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY. IT WAS JUST DEMONSTRATED BY THEN COLLECTING SO MANY SIGNATURES THAT YOUR OWN CITY CLERK WASN'T ABLE TO GET IT ONTO THIS NOVEMBER BALLOT, A DELAY, UH, UNTIL YOU KNOW, MONTHS LONG, UH, TO A LOW TURNOUT ELECTION, WON'T SERVE THE, THE INTERESTS OF DEMOCRACY. THERE IS MASSIVE SUPPORT FOR THIS. YOU HAVE THE POWER TO ENACT THAT. GO AHEAD AND DO THAT TODAY ON 86, NO, ON 87. AND IT'S NO ON LICENSE PLATE READERS. THIS DATA WILL BE ABUSED AND IT'LL, IT'LL GET OUT OF YOUR HANDS. EVEN YOUR BEST INTENTIONS WILL BE MISUSED BY THE STATE AND BY FEDERAL ENTITIES THAT DON'T HAVE OUR INTERESTED IN MIND. UH, YOUR RECORDS, YOUR VOTES ON THIS WILL GO DOWN IN RECORD AND IT WILL BE A SIGN TO FUTURE GENERATIONS TO YOUR STANCE ON THE PROTECTION OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BEING TARGETED RIGHT NOW, PLEASE VOTE NO ON SHELBY BOHANNON ON 86. HI, UM, MY NAME IS SHELBY BOHAN. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE AND I'M DEMANDING THIS COUNCIL TO IMMEDIATELY ADOPT THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT AND NOT WAIT TO PLACE IT ON THE MAY BALLOT. THE CITY OF AUSTIN NEEDS THIS LEGISLATION IN PLACE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO ENSURE IT HAS AN IMPACT ON THE ONGOING POLICE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION. I'M ALSO DEMANDING THAT THE COUNCIL REJECTS A L PR, WHICH WOULD PUT BROWN AND BLACK PEOPLE, UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, AND THOSE SEEKING ABORTIONS IN SERIOUS DANGER. THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS PAID OUT OVER 14 MILLION IN SETTLEMENTS, JUST FROM THE 2020 PROTEST, BUT HAS NOT DISCIPLINED ANY OFFICERS, INCLUDING THOSE INDICTED BY A GRAND JURY FOR THEIR CONTACT CONDUCT. DURING THOSE PROTESTS, NOR HAS THE DEPARTMENT ISSUED DISCIPLINE OVER THE MORE THAN 100 EXAMPLES OF FALSE ARRESTS IN EXCESSIVE FORCE. AFTER AN AUDIT OF BODY CAM VIDEO, THE VOTERS OF AUSTIN ELECTED YOU TO PASS LEGISLATION AND YOU MUST PASS A P A DIRECTLY AND IMMEDIATELY RESTORING REASONABLE AND BASIC FUNCTIONS TO THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT WITH A NO BRAINER AND HAS WIDESPREAD REPORT OF SUPPORT WITH AN OVERWHELMING 33,000 SIGNATURE SELECTED WHEN THE CITY NEGOTIATION WITH THE APA. THANK YOU HAREN ZABARI ON ITEM 56 HAREN ZABARI PLEASE UNMUTE CYNTHIA VAN MAN MANON ON 86. GOOD MORNING, MARI COUNCIL. I'M CYNTHIA VAN MANNON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TRAVIS COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY. AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF T CBP TODAY IN SPORT OF ITEM [00:50:01] 86, AUSTIN RESIDENTS OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT CITIZEN O OVERSIGHT AND GREATER ACCOUNTABILITY OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT T CDP ENDORSED BY RESOLUTION MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS TO POLICE, ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY DURING THE LAST CONTRACT NEGOTIATION IN 2017, AND WE ENDORSED THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, WE TRUST THE ELECTED MEMBERS OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL TO REPRESENT AUSTIN RESIDENTS AND THEIR OVERWHELMING SUPPORTIVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT IN THE UPCOMING POLICE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, REGARDLESS OF THE MECHANISM BY WHICH THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED. WE TRUST YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL BUILD TRUST AND FOSTER A PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM THAT WORKS FOR ALL TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, JEN MAR ON 86. HI, I'M JEN MARGULIES DISTRICT ONE SPEAKING TODAY IN FAVOR OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT ITEM 86 AND AGAINST ITEM 56, THE AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS MAKING THE RIGHT VOTES ON BOTH. THESE MEASURES WILL ALLOW AUSTIN TO CONTINUE BUILDING TOWARDS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY VISION, WHICH VOTERS AND THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL HAVE IDENTIFIED OVER AND OVER AGAIN AS CRUCIAL PRIORITY FOR OUR CITY. FIRST OF ALL, CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE NON-NEGOTIABLE. WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS. YOU'VE HEARD TODAY WHEN WE LET THE POLICE POLICE THEMSELVES, IT'S COSTLY IN TERMS OF HUMAN LIVES AND CITY DOLLARS OVER 30,000 AUSTINITE DEGREE. AND WE CAN'T LET ANOTHER CONTRACT NEGOTIATION GO FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING FIRST RESTORED. THE BASIC ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY MEASURES AND EMPOWERED POLICE OVERSIGHT OFFICE PROVIDES AS CO PLATE READERS. THE ONLY WAY TO GUARANTEE THAT SURVEILLANCE DATA DON'T END UP BEING USED AGAINST IMMIGRANTS, ABORTION SEEKERS, TRANS HEALTHCARE SEEKERS, PEOPLE OF COLOR SURVIVORS OR ACTIVISTS IS TO NOT GATHER THAT DATA IN THE FIRST PLACE, ESPECIALLY WHEN RESEARCH HAS SHOWN. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO CLEAR PUBLIC SAFETY BENEFIT IT'S SAFETY THEATERS. THAT MIGHT BE NEAT FROM A TECH POINT OF VIEW, BUT IS AGAIN COSTLY AND DEEPLY DAMAGING TO OUR COMMUNITY. PLEASE VOTE YES ON 86 TODAY AND NO ON ITEM 56. THANK YOU, MEG HELP IN ON 86. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MEG HALPIN. I LIVE IN D SEVEN AND I'M CALLING THIS STRONGLY URGE Y'ALL TO VOTE YES ON 86, AS WELL AS NO ON 56. I WANNA ECHO THOSE CALLERS BEFORE ME WHO SAID THE BEST WAY TO LIMIT THE ABUSE OF DATA COLLECTED ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY IS TO NOT COLLECT IT. AND THE BEST WAY TO LIMIT VIOLATIONS TO OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IS TO STOP AUTHORITARIAN AND INEFFECTIVE MASS SURVEILLANCE OF OUR COMMUNITY LICENSE PLATE READERS, FURTHER THE CRIMINALIZATION OF POVERTY IN OUR COMMUNITY VIA DATABASES OF WARRANTS, OF FOLKS WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FINES, FEES, AND TICKETS. AND WE KNOW THAT THEY DISPROPORTIONATELY SURVEIL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE LOW INCOME AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. I ALSO WANNA URGE Y'ALL TO VOTE, TO PASS 86 WITHOUT DELAY. THE FIGHT AGAINST MASS SURVEILLANCE IS INEXTRICABLY TIED UP TO AN URGENTLY NEEDED RECKONING WITH RACISM AND POLICING IN AUSTIN. WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE ROLE OF SURVEILLANCE IN EXACERBATING, THE INHERENT RACISM OF OUR LAW AND IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT SYSTEMS. PLEASE STOP INVESTING OUR RESOURCES AND MASS SURVEILLANCE OF OUR COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN CONFRONT THESE SYSTEMIC HARMS ONLY. THEN WE'LL BE BEYOND THE THANK YOU. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. ROBIN SCHNEIDER, 86, ROBIN, PLEASE UNMUTE BETH BUFFET ON 86. HI, UH, MY NAME IS BETH BUFFET. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. I LIVE IN DISTRICT EIGHT. I'M SPEAKING AGAINST ITEM 56 AND I AM SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 86. UM, REGARDING 56, A LPRS ARE GENERATING MILLIONS OF DATA POINTS ON THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T EVEN SUSPECTED OF VIOLATING LAWS WHILE PUTTING MULTIPLE CATEGORIES OF AUSTIN RESIDENTS AT RISK. UH, THE ONLY TRULY SECURE DATA IS THE DATA NOT COLLECTED AND THE POLICE ARE WELL FUNDED ENOUGH STARTING MY SUPPORT OF ITEM 86, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT BARGAINING SHIPS. THE POLICE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HOLD IN NEGOTIATION WITH THE CITY. THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO CONCEDE EVEN MORE MONEY LOCKED IN FOR YEARS TO COME BY STATE LEGISLATION IN EXCHANGE FOR EXTREMELY BASIC AND MINIMAL TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT FROM THE AUSTIN POLICE ASSOCIATION. UM, JUST JOINING THE CHORUS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST 56 AND SUPPORTING 86, UM, [00:55:01] FROM DOWN HERE IN SOUTH AUSTIN. THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK, ROBIN SCHNEIDER. HI, THIS IS ROBIN SCHNEIDER. I'M UH, NOW A DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT. I HAVE BEEN A DISTRICT NINE RESIDENT. I WAS IN THE CITY CHI COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHEN THE COUNCIL A FEW YEARS AGO, BRAVELY STOOD UP TO THE POLICE UNION AND REJECTED THE CONTRACT. UM, AND I WAS SO PROUD OF OUR CITY FOR FINALLY, UM, LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED BY THE POLICE. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO REALLY STAND UP FOR STRONG POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY BY VOTING YES, ON 86, IF YOU DELAY UNTIL MAY, UH, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE POLICE CONTRACT THAT'S BEING NEGOTIATED NOW THAT HAS TO BE COMPLETED IN MARCH IS GOING TO BE COVERED. UM, SO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A LEGACY, UH, ON POLICE OVERSIGHT AND POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, IT IS TIME TO VOTE. UM, YES. ON 86, ESPECIALLY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR WHO ARE DEPARTING THE COUNCIL. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF JUSTICE. IF YOU THINK BLACK LIVES MATTERS. THIS IS ERICA FLOES MS. FLOES PLEASE UNMUTE MUNIB ISLAM ON 86 AND 87. HELLO, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS NEEDS ALA. I'M A MASTER STUDENT HERE AT LBJ SCHOOL OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND A LONGTIME AUSTIN RESIDENT IN D NINE. I'M TESTIFYING FROM WORK CURRENTLY IN FAVOR OF ITEM 86 AND AGAINST ITEM 56, 87 AND 91. I REALLY HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE AUSTIN POLICES OVERSIGHT ACT AND I'M URGING MY OWN COUNCIL MEMBER, KATHY TOVO AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE ESTEEM BODY TO VOTEES SO THAT WE CAN PUT A RELIABLE SYSTEM OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT INTO OUR CODE AND MAKE IT LAW. NOW, UM, WE WANT TO KEEP THAT PROMISE OF PROVIDING A SPACE AND EQUITABLE AUSTIN FOR ALL FOLKS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR BACKGROUND, POLICE BRUTALITY, MISCONDUCT ARE REPREHENSIBLE, AND THEY MUST BE APPROPRIATELY DEALT WITH BY AN INDEPENDENT BODY OF CIVILIANS. AND I AM HOPING THAT, UH, WE DO PASS 86, UH, AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ERICA FLO ON 86, ERICA, PLEASE UNMUTE CARMENS ON 86 AND 87 MORNING MAYOR, MAYOR COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO SAY YES ON 86, NO. ON 87, THIS AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO PASS A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF POLICY TODAY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOSING OVERSIGHT. EVERY TIME A REPORT GOES INTO INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND DISAPPEARS, WE'RE AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS, BUT NOT ABLE TO TAKE ACTION ON CASES LIKE THOSE YOU'RE HEARING TODAY. YOU CAN SPARE US AN ADDITIONAL ELECTION BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO. YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO CAMPAIGNING, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON CIVIC ISSUES, YOU CAN TAKE AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD EQUITY AND JUSTICE BY CREATING ACCOUNTABILITY TODAY, AS ONE OF YOUR PRO-POLICE CALLERS SAID EARLIER, SHE REALIZES THERE ARE BAD POLICE OFFICERS, BUT EVENTUALLY THEY'LL GET CAUGHT. ONLY IF YOU, AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, GIVE US THE TOOLS AND SYSTEMIC STRUCTURES TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. BE THE CHANGE TODAY. THANK YOU, RACHEL SHANNON ON 86 AND 91. GOOD MORNING. MAYOR ADLER MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL IS RACHEL SHANNON 21 YEAR RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE. THE TIME TO PASS POLICE OVERSIGHT IS NOW NOT IN MAY. WHEN ACCOUNTABILITY BECOMES A BARGAINING CHIP OF THESE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, THERE'S POPULAR SUPPORT FOR IT. THE CITY HAS STILL FAILED TO ISSUE DISCIPLINE OVER THE MORE THAN A HUNDRED EXAMPLES OF FALSE ARREST AND ACCEPTED FORCE FROM AUDIT THE BODY CAMERA VIDEOS. WHEN ARE WE GONNA TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY? MEANWHILE, AUSTIN AIMS TO BE A SANCTUARY CITY FOR IMMIGRANTS, REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS [01:00:01] AND TRANSGENDER RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S ENTERTAINING MORE SUPPORT FOR SURVEILLANCE THAT STANDS TO CRIMINALIZE ALL THESE PEOPLE. IN ADDITION TO THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES ALREADY ADVERSELY OVER SURVEYED, THIS IS A DIRECT CONFLICT OF THE WELL-FORMED RESEARCH OF THE RPS RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF PRIVACY PROTECTIONS THAT IT ENSURE THAT CAN ENSURE COLLECTED DATA WILL NOT BE MISUSED OR SHARED. THE ONLY TRULY SECURE DATA IS THE DATA NOT COLLECTED. PLEASE RESPECT OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS REPRESENT AND PROTECT OUR DIVERSE, AMAZING COMMUNITIES OF PEOPLE. NO, A L PRS ARE NOT WORTH THE PRICE OF HUMAN RIGHTS POLICE OVERSIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. YOU SPEAKER YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. ERICA. FLOES ERICA FLOES OKAY. SHE DISCONNECTED. LAST SPEAKER WE HAVE IS LINDSAY IGNATOWSKI ON 56 AND 86. OH, HI. Y'ALL UM, I ALREADY DID GET MY CHANCE TO SPEAK ACTUALLY, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. THAT CONCLUDES THE, UM, REMOTE SPEAKERS. WE'VE TRIED WITH MISS FLOSS SEVERAL TIMES. I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'S JUST MUTED AND CAN'T HEAR US, BUT HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED? LET'S GO TO THE, UH, IN PERSON SPEAKERS. OKAY. FIRST SPEAKER IS SHANTE MARSHALL ON ITEM 86. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SHANTE MARSHALL. UM, HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT ON MAY 18TH OF THIS YEAR, MY BROTHER BRANDON MARSHALL WAS SUBJECT OF A JOINT OPERATION BETWEEN AUSTIN POLICE, SOUTH METRO TECHNICAL UNIT AND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THE GOAL OF THEIR OPERATION WAS TO ARREST MY BROTHER FOR ACTIVE WARRANT. HOWEVER, ON THIS DAY, MAY 18TH AT APPROXIMATELY 6:30 PM. THE OPERATION ENDED WITH MY BROTHER BEING SHOT BY FOUR POLICE OFFICERS FROM APD AND ONE DPS OFFICER ULTIMATELY LEAVING HIM WITH EIGHT TO 10 GUNSHOT WOUNDS. UM, THE MAIN FOCUS WAS TO GET HIM ARRESTED, BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS WAS THE OPERATION THOUGHT OUT WAS THE EXTENT OF FORCE AND THE PLAN OF ACTION NECESSARY. UM, THE POLICE, UM, OFFICIALS NEVER MADE THEMSELVES KNOWN TO BRANDON. THEY NEVER USED POLICE SIRENS. THEY NEVER ANNOUNCED OVER THE BULLHORN WHO THEY WERE. THEY NEVER MOTIONED FOR HIM TO PULL OVER HIS VEHICLE. THEY SIMPLY FOLLOWED HIM FOR HOURS. UM, AFTER HE ATTENDED TO HIS AFTER WORK, AS HE ATTENDED TO HIS AFTER WORK DUTIES, AT WHICH ONE POINT HIS CHILDREN WERE EVEN, EVEN IN HIS CAR, THEY DEFLATED HIS TIRES, CAUSING HIM TO ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PULL OVER. UM, I AM FOR THE POLICE OVERSEEING ACT BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE JUSTICE FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS GU BEK ON ITEMS 1 23, 24, 25, 34 36 37 38 39, 40 41 42 43, 64, 86, 88 AND 89. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET TO THE NITTY NITTY. MY NAME IS GUSTAVO PENA. I GREW UP IN, UH, EAST AUSTIN, 25, 26, 27 EAST FIFTH STREET. UH, I'M HERE TO, UH, DISCUSS WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING, UH, TO ME AND OTHERS IN THE, ON THE COMMUNITY. I WAS TOLD I WAS, UH, GOING, I WAS AT, UH, THE, THE SECOND FLOOR. I WAS INVITED BY TWO COUNCIL MEMBER AIDS. WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT ISSUES. UH, THIS IS NOT RELEVANT TO WHAT THEY'RE YOUR, YOUR, UH, YOUR HAVE, LISTEN, WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS THIS GOOD? UH, YOUR SAVIO TOLD ME TO LEAVE. I HAD TO LEAVE. I SAID, I HAVE PERMISSION TO SPEAK, UH, OVER HERE ON MY TWO COUNCIL MEMBER AIDS. AND I'M NOT GONNA MENTION THEIR NAMES, BUT THIS CHARACTER WAS WRONG IN WHAT HE DID. AND, AND, AND TELLING ME THAT I HAVE TO LEAVE. I DIDN'T HAVE TO LEAVE, BUT I LEFT BECAUSE I TELL YOU WHAT MY, MY SON, MY BLOOD WAS BOILING. OKAY. I'M GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT. I WANNA SAY TO YOU ALSO, UH, ADLER, I REMEMBER I'M GONNA LEAVE IT UP. I VOTED FOR YOU TWICE TO RETAIN YOU AS, UH, AS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. THIS [01:05:01] CHARACTER COULD BE FILED ON FOR ASSAULT. SO VERY BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT. ALSO, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING TODAY. NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRISTOPHER TED ON MULTIPLE ITEMS, ALEXANDER STRANGER ON 26, 34 AND 46 ON DECK IS SOPHIE WASHINGTON. GOOD MORNING, COUNSEL. I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 26 AND THE NEED TO ADOPT A REG RESOLUTION REGARDING OUR STATE'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. BECAUSE THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WE ARE FACING RIGHT NOW IS RIGHT WING EXTREMISM. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THESE, UM, I'M HAVING FULL BLOWN PANIC ATTACKS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THESE MAG REPUBLICANS. YOU KNOW, I TOOK A DNA TASK LAST WEEK. IT TURNS OUT I AM 4% BLACK AND EVER SINCE THEN, I'VE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT THE OATHKEEPERS AND THE PROUD BOYS COMING MY HOUSE, COMING TO MY HOUSE IN ORDER TO MURDER ME. BECAUSE OF RACISM. HOLD ON. ALL RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM IN PLACE SO THAT THESE PEOPLE CAN NO LONGER PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY. AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU DIDN'T WANNA WEAR A MASK, IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO GET VACCINATED, IF YOU DON'T WANT DRAG QUEENS READING STORIES TO YOUR FIVE YEAR OLDS, IF YOU THINK IT'S OKAY TO DRIVE A CAR AND OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY, NOT ONLY ARE YOU A RIGHT WING EXTREMIST, BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN SCIENCE AND YOU'RE DOMESTIC TERRORIST AND YOUR HOUSE NEEDS TO BE RATED BY THE FBI. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING, PARTICIPATING WITH US TODAY. NEXT SPEAKER, SOPHIE WASHINGTON ON ITEM 38 ON DECK IS SARAH BECKER. SARAH BECKER ON DECK IS LISA HAMAN. HI, I'M LISA HOMAN. I SERVE ON THE PARKS AND REC BOARD AND AM PART OF A MULTI-AGENCY HOMELESSNESS WORKING GROUP. THE HOMELESS IN OUR WOODS ARE NOT JUST CAMPING. THERE IS A DARKER, MORE SADISTIC CULTURE TO THEIR LIVES. A PERVERSE POWER STRUCTURE AND JAIL CULTURE RUNS A MOCK IN CAMPS. MOST HOMELESS ARE EITHER TRAFFICKING OR BEING TRAFFICKED THROUGH FORCED FRAUD OR COERCION INTO FORCED LABOR OR SURVIVOR SEX DRUG DEALERS DON'T JUST DEAL DRUGS. THEY ARE ALSO TRAFFICKERS, METH AND SPEED CREATE FEELINGS OF HYPERSEXUALITY AND TRAFFICKED. CLIENTS ARE FORCED INTO TAKING THESE DRUGS, RENDERING THEM INVISIBLE IN A SADISTIC SOCIETY, HOMELESS PEOPLE, FEAR BEING ROBBED, AND THEY FEAR NOT HAVING A SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP. WHETHER MALE OR FEMALE, THESE DAILY THREATS MAKE THEM VULNERABLE TO TRAFFICKERS WHO OFFER PROTECTION. THE PERVERSE RELATIONSHIP THEN BECOMES ONE OF INVOLUNTARY SLAVERY. IF THE PERSON TRIES TO FLEE, IT'S COMMON FOR THEM TO BE BRUTALIZED OR TORTURED. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. I SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S RESOLUTION CRYSTAL SEPULVEDA ON ITEM 59 ON DECK IS YVONNE WELDON, YVONNE WELDON ON ITEM 52. HI, GOOD MORNING. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT ITEM NUMBER 56 AND OPPOSE ITEM NUMBER 86. UM, YOU KNOW, IN 2020, WE, AUSTIN HAD A RECORD NUMBER OF HOMICIDES OF 48 HOMICIDES, AND THAT WAS A RECORD NUMBER IN 2021. WE HAD 89 HOMICIDES AND THIS YEAR WE'RE ON TRACK TO EXCEED THAT AGAIN, WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH THE NUMBER OF DEATHS FROM FATAL, YOU KNOW, FROM AUTO FATALITIES, THE NUMBER OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, AGGRAVATED BURGLARIES, AND THE CRIME IS JUST INCREASING. WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR POLICE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, STOP THIS, UM, ATTEMPT TO DEFEND THE POLICE. THANK YOU. SUSAN'S SPATARO ON 52, 56 AND 87. MONICA GUZMAN IS ON DECK. [01:10:02] THANK YOU. UM, I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT 52 AND, AND THANK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD. SORRY. THANK COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY FOR BRINGING UP, UM, 52 56. I TESTIFIED BEFORE. AND YOU KNOW, AS I SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO SURVEILLANCE, WHAT'S THAT IT'S A CAMERA. WHAT'S THAT IT'S A CAMERA. WHEN YOU WALK IN CITY HALL, THERE'S A CAMERA THERE'S CAMERAS ALL OVER THIS BUILDING. SO TO SAY THAT THE POLICE CAN'T USE CAMERAS, BUT EVERYONE ELSE NEEDS CAMERAS TO BE SAFE. IT'S REALLY SOMEWHAT HYPOCRITICAL. UM, I AM, I AM VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO 86. I THINK THE CONSTANT BARRAGE OF ATTACKS ON THE POLICE HAVE RESULTED IN THE CRIME THAT WAS JUST POINTED OUT. UM, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLING 9 1 1 AND NOT GETTING A RESPONSE CALLING THREE ONE, AND NOT GETTING A RESPONSE. THEY HAVE RIGHTS HERE TOO. THEY'RE WORKING. SO THEY'RE NOT HERE TESTIFYING, BUT THAT ISSUE NEEDS TO BE PUT ON THE BALLOT AND PEOPLE NEED TO VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MONICA GUZMAN SPEAKING ON 53, 56, 58, 66, 67, 86 AND 87 AND 91 ON DECK IS BRIAN REGISTER. I'M MONICA GOMAN FOR TRANSFERRED PROCEED PURPOSES. I WAS AN RP TASKFORCE MEMBER AND SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE PUT FORWARD. BUT TODAY SPEAKING SOLELY AS A D FOUR RESIDENT, I'M OPPOSED TO ITEM 56. IF YOU CONSIDER A L P SURVEILLANCE, IF YOU HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH IMMIGRANTS, NON-BINARY PERSONS, THE BIPO COMMUNITY, THEN YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY BIPO, AND THOSE OF MEXICAN DESCENT ARE TARGETS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ICE. IF YOU SPONSORED THE GRACE ACT, THEN, YOU KNOW, USE OF A L P'S FLIES IN THE FACE OF SAID, ACT, YOU MUST VOTE IT DOWN. I'M OPPOSED TO ITEMS. 87 AND 91 OFFICERS ARE STILL HARMING PROTESTORS, FAILING TO PROVIDE PROTECTION AND SUPPORT FOR DV VICTIMS AND PEOPLE EXPERIENCING MENTAL HEALTH CRISES. THE LIST GOES ON, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER IS THEY ARE NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR PAST AND ONGOING ABUSES. I SUPPORT ITEM 86 OPO REPORTS SHOW AN ANNUAL INCREASE IN COMPLAINTS FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR. THEY CAN PROVIDE THE ACCOUNT FOR COMPLAINTS FILED THROUGH THEIR OFFICE. WHILE COMPLAINTS FILED THROUGH IA REMAIN UNKNOWN. I URGE COUNSEL TO APPROVE TODAY BECAUSE WE NEED THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT. NOW, REMEMBER YOUR VOTES ARE FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS, NOT GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATES. DON'T PLAY INTO THE INCUMBENTS HAND, DO NOT DELAY JUSTICE JUSTICE FOR AUSTIN RESIDENTS ITEMS VOTE DOWN ITEMS 56, 87 AND 91. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. WE APPRECIATE YOU PARTICIPATING. BRIAN REGISTER ON DECK IS KATRINA FARLEY, ANDREW HOMAN SPEAKING ON ITEM 56. UM, I, UH, I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT MONICA SAID. UH, I'M ALSO LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE JUST AGAINST POLICE OVERSIGHT. THIS SEEMS LIKE AN ATTACK ON POOR PEOPLE AND MINORITIES INSIDE THE CITY AND, UH, AND SUPPORT. AND I AM FOR THE POLICE. UH, THE OVERSIGHT OF, UH, POLICE NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AND, UH, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. A NSBE ON 56 ON DECK IS TRAVIS VA HOLT. HI, MY NAME IS, UH, ABBY NESBIT RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT NINE, UH, KATIE'S DISTRICT. SO PLEASE LISTEN WITH OPEN EARS BECAUSE A LOT OF RESIDENTS FROM DISTRICT NINE HAVE, UH, EXPRESSED, UH, BEING AGAINST 56. UH, I WORK FOR A TECH COMPANY, SO I KNOW THAT, UH, A LOT OF TECH COMPANIES DON'T REALLY SOLVE PROBLEMS. THEY'RE OUT THERE TO LOOK FOR PROBLEMS. UH, I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF HEADLINES I'VE SEEN, UH, OR COLORADO POLICE DETAINED AND, UH, HANDCUFFED A BLACK MOTHER OF FOUR CHILDREN AFTER MISTAKING THEIR SUV FOR A STOLEN MOTORCYCLE PRAIRIE VILLAGE DRIVER FINDS HIMSELF SURROUNDED BY COPS WITH GUNS AFTER AN A L P MISREAD A SEVEN AS A TWO. THESE ARE SITUATIONS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AVERTED, BUT THESE OFFICERS ARE RUSHING TO POUNCE BEFORE LEAVING JURISDICTION AND FULFILLING. DEFINITELY NOT QUOTAS. UH, WE NEED TO STOP THE COLLUSION BETWEEN TECH COMPANIES AND THE POLICE, BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THAT A PR CAN AND HAVE BEEN USED TO SEPARATE FAMILIES THROUGH DETENTION AND TARGETING PEOPLE, SEEKING ABORTIONS, AND BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW AND HAVE SEEN HAPPEN, THEY IN FACT HAVE BEEN USING ALP IN THE PAST TO SURVEIL INDIVIDUALS EXPRESSING THEIR PROTECTED FIRST AMENDMENT, SPEECH, PROTESTORS, RIOTS, ET CETERA. UH, THIS IS A MASS SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY ABOUT LOCATIONS OF PEOPLE, UH, CERTAIN TIMES WITHOUT WARRANT. THANK WITH US TODAY. THANK YOU. PLEASE PROTECT OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT 30 DAYS, 30 MINUTES. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THANK [01:15:01] YOU. TRAVIS VAN HOLT ON 56 ON DECK IS KEVIN WELCH, WHICH LINDA NUNO, REBECCA REBECCA BERNHARDT ON DECK IS AMELIA CASA. HI, MY NAME'S REBECCA BERNHARDT. I'M THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT 10. I SUPPORT, UM, ITEM 86 AND OPPOSE ITEM 80 50 ITEM 56. UM, WE HAVE A CHRONIC PROBLEM IN AUSTIN, WHICH IS THAT WHEN THE POLICE ENGAGE IN MISCONDUCT, WE FAIL TO PROVIDE THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN WITH ANY MEANINGFUL RELIEF. UH, WE'VE SEEN THIS IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. IT HAPPENED WITH THE SECOND CRAWL REPORT WHERE WE LEARNED THAT WE HAVE A STOP RISK AND A RISK PROBLEM IN AUSTIN WHERE THE POLICE ENGAGE IN ILLEGAL CONDUCT AND THERE'S REALLY BEEN NO REMEDY AND WE'VE HAD NO FOLLOW UP. THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH CURRENT COMPLAINTS THAT ARE COMING IN TO THE OFFICE OF POLICE, UM, OVERSIGHT RIGHT NOW, UH, ON MAY 9TH, WE HEARD THAT POLICE HORSES, UM, TRAMPLED PEDESTRIANS, AND PINNED A PERSON TO THE GROUND. UM, ON MAY 4TH, 2022 AT A PROTEST AUSTIN POLICE USED IN LRAD CONTINUOUSLY FOR 10 TO 15 MINUTES CAUSING HEARING DAMAGE. AND THERE WERE CHILDREN PRESENT. THESE ARE TWO RECENT COMPLAINTS, UM, THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE ADDRESSED. UM, IF YOU VOTE NO ON, UM, ITEM 86 ALSO, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, IN 2021, OUR HOMICIDE RATE WAS 9.25 PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE IN 1984. WE HAD OUR HIGHEST HOMICIDE RATE OF 13.2. THANK YOU, PER HUNDRED THOUSAND. THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING TODAY. THAT'S MATH. GOT IT. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. KEVIN WELCH ON 56, WELL MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KEVIN WELCH, CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD AT E F AUSTIN DISSERTATE RESIDENT. I WANT TO THANK, UH, MANY OF YOUR OFFICES FOR WORKING WITH US ON THE A P DEBATE, ESPECIALLY WANT US TO GO OUT, UH, AND KITCHEN, UH, CHIEF VELA, MAYOR ADLER, PAIGE ELLIS, AND NATASHA APER MADISON FOR YOUR, UH, COLLABORATION. UM, I APPRECIATE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE MADE BEEN MADE TO THE LEGISLATION. I HAVE TO BE HONEST, THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO TODAY OR AT LEAST CONTINUE. THIS CONVERSATION IS ALSO VITAL TO VOTE FOR 86 AND AGAINST 87 AND 91. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND THIS ISSUE THAT WILL NOT JUST BE MORE ANECDOTES FROM BOTH SIDES ABOUT FEEL GOOD OR BAD STORIES IS HARD DATA. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT, OR WHAT'S THE POINT OF A PRIVATE PROGRAM. WE'RE JUST GONNA BE BACK HERE IN A YEAR. AND I ALSO WANNA THANK ESPECIALLY CM MADISON FOR USING THE WORD MASS SURVEILLANCE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS TECH IS. MASS SURVEILLANCE IS DEFINED AS INDISCRIMINATE MONITORING OF PEOPLE. INDISCRIMINATE IS THE KEY WORD. IT MEANS NOT TARGETED BASED ON SUSPECTED WRONGDOING. IT IS MASS SURVEILLANCE, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND I HOPE WE'LL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION AND I HOPE I'M PROVEN WRONG ABOUT THE HARMS OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. THANK YOU, AMELIA GASA ON DECK IS CRYSTAL ERICKSON COLLINS. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS AME KAAS, AND I'M HERE AS THE RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SIX. AND ON BEHALF OF THE TEXAS FIRE DEFENSE PROJECT, I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF ITEM 86 AND AGAINST ITEMS, 56, 87 AND 91 AS AN AUSTIN RESIDENT, I WAS PROUD TO SIGN ONTO THE PETITION FOR THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT. I BELIEVE THAT INCREASED TRANSPARENCY IN CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OVER APD CAN MAKE AUSTIN SAFE FOR ALL. THERE HAVE BEEN COUNTLESS COMPLAINTS OF EXCESSIVE FORCE THAT HAVE GONE UNANSWERED FOR FAR TOO LONG. AND THIS ACT WILL BRING AUSTIN ONE STEP CLOSER TO TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY AND DETERRING POLICE MISCONDUCT. THERE IS NO REASON TO PROLONG THIS PROCESS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TIMING OF THE POLICE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION. IT NEEDS TO PASS NOW TO MAKE ANY IMPACT. AND I URGE YOU ALL TO PLEASE VOTE IN FAVOR OF ITEM 86. TODAY. WE ALSO CONTINUE TO OPPOSE ITEM 56 AT TFTP. WE KNOW THAT A LPRS ARE FREQUENTLY USED TO COLLECT COURT DEBT, MAKE PETTY ARREST AND SHARE INFO WITH IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND NOW POTENTIALLY ANTI-ABORTION GROUPS. THESE POSSIBLE THREATS ARE NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. AND I JUST ASK THAT YOU PLEASE PROTECT YOUR CONSTITUENTS FOR MASS SURVEILLANCE AND VOTE. NO ON ITEM 56. THANK YOU. CRYSTAL ERICKSON COLLINS ON 56 AND 86 ON DECK IS SAM K. [01:20:09] I'M GONNA READ FROM A COMPLAINT FROM THE PR BEFORE, JUST, JUST, JUST TO TOUCH BASE ON THAT, THE BEST WAY TO GET SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IS TO GIVE IT TO THE, UH, THE CLERK AND THEN THE CLERK MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IT'S, IT'S HANDED OUT ON THE, ON THE DAYS. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. I'M GONNA READ FROM A COMPLAINT FROM THE OPO FROM JULY, I CALLED 9 1 1 AND REQUESTED MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS FOR ASSISTANCE WITH MY 20 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER WHO WAS EXPERIENCING PSYCHOSIS DUE TO A MEDICAL CONDITION AND MEDICATION REACTION. I SHOWED THEM HER MEDICATIONS AND HAD HER NEUROLOGIST ON THE PHONE. WHEN THEY ARRIVED, THEY WENT UP TO MY TALKED TO MY DAUGHTER AND SHE WAS CLEARLY AGITATED, NOT MAKING SENSE. MOST OF THE TIME, THEY ASKED HER TO COME OUTSIDE WITH THEM TO TALK. SHE ASKED IF WE COULD ALL COME. AND THEY SAID, NO, I COULD HEAR HER. AND SHE WASN'T MAKING SENSE. AND THE FEMALE OFFICER WAS ANTAGONIZING HER. THEY HANDCUFFED HER AND SAID HER ON THE GROUND. AND SHE GOT VERY AGITATED. I ASKED IF THEY COULD CALL THE MENTAL HEALTH POLICE. AND THEY SAID THEY WERE THE MENTAL HEALTH POLICE. I HAD MY DAUGHTER'S THERAPIST ON THE PHONE. AND THEN SHE ALSO ASKED FOR HER TO BE HOSPITALIZED GIVEN THIS WAS CLEARLY PSYCHOSIS. AND THEY SAID, NO, WE COULD HEAR HER SCREAMING IN AGONY. WE SINCE LEARNED, SHE WAS TASED SEVERAL TIMES. SHE HAS SINCE BEEN IN A STATE OF CRISIS AND IS CLEARLY INCREDIBLY TRAUMATIZED AT THIS MOMENT. SHE IS MISSING IN SUICIDAL. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO HER, I HOLD THE APD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OUTCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SAM. KSH ON DECK IS BOB LIBEL. THANK YOU. UH, BOB LIBEL, FRAN FRAN, A TATTOO. THANKS MAYOR. THANKS COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M BOB LIBEL. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN. UM, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE 56, WHICH I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER HARBOR FOR MADISON, FOR DESCRIBING AS A MASTER SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM. UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH IS IF YOU SUPPORT THE LICENSE PLATE READERS, WOULD YOU SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THE USE OF FACIAL REC RECOGNITION SOFTWARE, UH, OR THE INDISCRIMINATE ACCESSING BY P D OF SAY LIBRARY CARDS OR BUS PASSES? AND IF SO, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. UM, I ALSO WANNA RAISE ONE POINT, WHICH IS THAT THROUGH THE, UH, SHARING WITH ARIC, UM, UH, THE AUSTIN REGIONAL INTELLIGENCE CENTER, UH, APD IS SHARED OVER 140 AUSTIN ENERGY, UH, RECORDS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN USED BY IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT AND DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS, WHICH I THINK IS AN INCREDIBLE, UH, UH, SHOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE CONCERN TO FOLKS. UM, ON 86, UH, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE APO A, UH, AND, AND TO ME, JUSTICE DELAYED HERE IS JUSTICE DENIED. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING TODAY, AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ERICA FLOES BACK ON THE LINE. CAN WE TAKE HER SO THAT SHE DOESN'T DISCONNECT? YES, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THANK YOU, ERICA. FLOTUS YES. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES. YES. OKAY, PERFECT. UM, SO ERICA FLO DISTRICT ONE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF 86 AND 87 IN MY TWO YEARS ON THE COMMUNITY POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION. MOST RECENTLY AS VICE CHAIR, I'VE SEEN THE IMPLICATIONS OF LEAVING POLICE OVERSIGHT AS PART OF CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. THERE'S DECLINE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES. PRC HAS REVIEWED DUE TO CONFUSION AND TREPIDATION. SINCE THE ARBITRATION DECISION, THIS HAS BEEN EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING, BOTH INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A COMMISSION, LEAVING US UNABLE TO FULFILL THE DUTIES, ASKED OF US WHEN APPOINTED INTO THE COMMISSION, ADOPTING THE APO A IS THE BEST IN IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND ALL OF THOSE LOOKING TO CREATE A SAFER AUSTIN. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUPPORT TO SUCCESSFULLY DO OUR JOBS AND CREATE A REAL PATH TOWARDS I, TO WHO SIGNATURES THE OVERSIGHT ACT. THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THERE'S, THIS WAS PUT TO A SPECIAL ELECTION TODAY. YOUR CONSTITUENTS WOULD OVERWHELMINGLY EVOKE THIS INTO LAW. 32,000 SIGNATURES IS SIGNIFICANT AND IT DOESN'T ACCURATELY, UH, REFLECT THE MULTITUDE OF RESIDENTS. I SPOKE TO EVERY DAY WHO WANTED TO SIGN, BUT COULDN'T ABUSE EXISTS. I'LL SAY HER NAME, SANDRA LAND 21 OFFICERS HERE INDICTED IN AUSTIN YET. NO ACCOUNTABILITY. PLEASE DON'T MAKE US WAIT. FOUR YEARS TO SAVE LIVES. DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOTE. YES. ON 86, NO. ON 87 FURTHER, PLEASE VOTE. I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST 56. MY MOTHER IS A [01:25:01] JAPANESE AMERICAN WHO IS IN TURN FOR THREE YEARS, HAD TO LIVE IN A HORSE STALL. SHE'S 88. NOW, STILL WON'T TALK ABOUT IT. WE CAN REIMAGINE PUBLIC SAFETY BY TAKING $150,000 AND REINVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY, CREATING TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND AMONG NEIGHBORHOODS, SOCIAL PROGRAMS, MENTAL HEALTH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I HEAL BACK HANNAH ALEXANDER ON DECK AS PAULETTE SULTANI. HOLLY BELL. THEN EMILY GARRICK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THE ITEMS YOU'RE SPEAKING ON. THANK YOU. MY NAME'S PAULS AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY. I'M ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF THE TEXAS DIRECTOR OF ORGANIZING AT THE TEXAS HARM REDUCTION ALLIANCE. UM, I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO ITEMS 56 AND 87. SPEAKING IN SUPPORT FOR ITEM 86. THE PARTICIPANTS OF OUR PROGRAM ARE BLACK, BROWN AND POOR. EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WALKS THROUGH OUR DOOR HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY POLICING AND MOST HAVE FACED INCARCERATION. MOST ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS MOST HAVE A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER AND HAVE NO ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE AND FEW OPPORTUNITIES TO OVERCOME ALL THE OBSTACLES THAT HAVE BEEN STACKED AGAINST THEM. OUR ORGANIZATION CANNOT AND WILL NOT CEASE TO EXIST, EXIST. OUR SERVICES WILL NOT STOP BEING NEEDED IF OUR GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO DOUBLE DOWN ON POLICING AND INCARCERATION, AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS AND UNCHECKED POWER OF THE POLICE ARE TWO ISSUES CUT FROM THE SAME FABRIC THAT LEAD TO PEOPLE BEING TRAPPED IN POVERTY, BROKEN UP FAMILIES, AND SO MUCH MORE DO NOT VOTE ON MASS SURVEILLANCE FOR MASS SURVEILLANCE FOR AN EXPANSION OF POLICE POWERS AND TO UPHOLD A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE WITH YOUR COMMON SENSE AND MORAL JUDGMENT VOTE. NO ON 56 AND 87 VOTE. YES. ONER VOTE. YES. ON 86. THANK YOU, HOLLY. BE EMILY GARRICK ON DECK IS ERIC. RLO GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M EMILY GARRICK WITH THE TEXAS FOR A DEFENSE PROJECT. UM, LAST YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SETTLEMENTS IN 14 MILLION FOR POLICE BRUTALITY. UM, THIS WAS A RECORD NUMBER AND IT'S NOT INCLUDING THE RECORD OF A $67 MILLION VERDICT IN JUST ONE CASE. UM, THERE'S ALSO BEEN A HISTORIC NUMBER, UM, OF INDICTMENTS AGAINST POLICE OFFICERS. AND THIS COUNCIL KNOWS TOO WELL. WHAT KINDS OF CASES THOSE WERE? THOSE WERE PEOPLE OF COLOR BEING KILLED. THERE WAS A CHILD WHO WAS GIVEN BRAIN DAMAGE. UM, THERE WAS WOMAN WHO WAS PUNCHED EIGHT TIMES IN THE HEAD. THESE ARE ALL CASES WHERE APD SAW ALL THE FACTS. AND THESE ARE NOT A CASE OF YOU BACKED APPLES BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY SAW THOSE FACTS. THEY REVIEWED THOSE CASES AND THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THEIR POLICY AND NOTHING WAS DONE WRONG. THAT'S THE KIND OF OVERSIGHT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. UM, WE CANNOT ALLOW THAT LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT TO CONTINUE FOR FOUR YEARS. WE NEED TO PASS THE OVERSIGHT ACT. NOW, UM, I AM FRANKLY SHOCKED THAT SO MANY OF YOU ARE CONSIDERING DELAYING FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO URGE YOU TO VOTE. NO ON ITEM 56. THANK YOU, ERIC. RLO ON DECK AS REBECCA WEBER. ERIC IS SPEAKING ON 56, 86, 87 AND 91. HI, UH, MY NAME'S ERIC RLO, I'M A PRESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE. UM, I'M IN SUPPORT OF, UH, PASSING, UM, AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT AND I'M IN OPPOSITION OF, UH, 56TH LICENSE PLAY RINGS. THEY ARE, THEY ARE MASS SURVEILLANCE. AND, UM, THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE MORE, MORE POIGNANT AND DIRECT THAN I, BUT IT, IT, IT, IT ASTOUNDS TO ME THAT WE ARE WE'RE CONSIDERING GIVING MASS SURVEILLANCE TO THE POLICE WHEN THERE ARE ACTIONS, EVEN SUPREME COURT CASES, STATE THAT THEY ARE NOT UNDER ANY LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PROTECT US. THE POLICE NEED OVERSIGHT AND THEY DO NOT NEED MASS SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. IT CAN BE ABUSED. LET'S JUST NOT GIVE IT TO 'EM. THANK YOU. REBECCA WEBER ON DECK IS SANDY MCNA MS. WEBER SPEAKING ON 56, 86, 87 AND 91. HI, I'M REBECCA WEBER. I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE AND I AM THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION APPOINTEE FROM DISTRICT SEVEN. AND I HAVE BEEN SINCE BEFORE TEN ONE, I'M HERE TO ASK Y'ALL TO OPPOSE ITEM 56 AND TO SUPPORT 86. UM, I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE [01:30:01] CONSIDER THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THE A L P R SYSTEM WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE BENEFITS. SO WE'RE ALL HORRIFIED BY CHILD ABDUCTIONS. WHEN I WAS A LEGAL AID LAWYER IN SOUTH TEXAS WITH TRAUMA, I, YOU KNOW, I UNDER, I LEARNED FIRSTHAND THIS ISSUE OF INTERNATIONAL CHILD ABDUCTIONS, UM, BEING RELATED TO FAMILY VIOLENCE SITUATIONS. IT'S HORRIBLE AT THE SAME TIME I LIVE HERE IN AUSTIN AND I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHOSE CHILD HAS BEEN ABDUCTED, BUT I DO KNOW MANY IMMIGRANT PEOPLE, WE ALL CARE ABOUT IMMIGRANT PEOPLE. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US HAS SOMEONE IN OUR LIFE THAT WE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT WHO IS WHOSE SENSE OF SAFETY AND SECURITY IS THREATENED BY THIS MASS SURVEILLANCE. SO I ASK THAT YOU DO NOT SUPPORT THIS LINE ITEM. WE CAN USE THIS MONEY. THANK YOU SO MUCH BETTER WAYS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SANDY. MCNA ON 50 MAYOR MASS SPEAKING ON ONE SECOND. PLEASE MAY ASK SPEAKER QUESTION. UM, UH, YOU SAID WHEN YOU WERE A CERTAIN TYPE OF LAW, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT TYPE OF LAW YOU PRACTICE NOW AND SORT OF WHAT CLIENTS, WHAT TYPE OF CLIENTS YOU REPRESENT? YES. SO THANK YOU. UM, I WAS A LEGAL AID LAWYER IN, UH, WITH TRAUMA, TEXAS RIO GRANDE LEGAL AID. BEFORE I WAS IN PRIVATE PRACTICE. NOW I'M IN PRIVATE PRACTICE. I REPRESENT VICTIMS OF POLICE VIOLENCE IN CENTRAL TEXAS. SO I HAVE CLIENTS WHO HAVE BEEN INJURED BY THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, SAN MARCOS POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, AS FAR SOUTH AS THE VICTORIA POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, MY CASE IS IN AUSTIN. UH, MY CLIENTS INCLUDE TYRE TALLY, WHO Y'ALL HEARD FROM, AND, UH, SAM KSH, I HOPE YOU'LL HEAR FROM, HE WAS OUTSIDE TALKING TO A DOCTOR AS HE CONTINUES TO TRY TO HEAL FROM THE VIOLENCE THAT HE SUFFERED AT THE HANDS OF AUSTIN POLICE. SO I THINK, UM, LIKE I UNDERSTAND DEEPLY THE ISSUE ON 86. I DIDN'T CHOOSE TO USE MY TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOLLOW UP. I KNOW WHAT HAS GONE ON AT THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT ONLY HAVE I HAVE I SERVED ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, BUT I WAS ON THE CITIZEN REVIEW PANEL THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, POLICE MONITOR CLIFF BROWN THROUGH MARGO FRAZIER, DEVIN DESAI FILLED IN UP THROUGH FARA. LIKE I HAVE REVIEWED THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING FILES FOR ALL OF THESE CASES FOR YEARS AS A VOLUNTEER. AND NOW I CHOOSE TO REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INJURED BECAUSE SITTING AT THE TABLE FOR ALL THOSE YEARS, I, I, I HAVE GIVEN UP ON THAT QUITE QUITE FRANKLY. AND, UM, NOW CHOOSE TO USE MY TIME TO TRY AND REPRESENT PEOPLE IN THE COURT SYSTEM BECAUSE I AM JUST SO DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR APPROACH TO THIS. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES. I, I APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY. AND I THINK YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SANDY. MCNO ON DECK IS CLINTON RAY I'M SANDY RAM RAMIREZ MCNO. MY PRONOUNS ARE POC PROUD AND LATINA. I AM FOR ITEMS 52 56 AND 91 AGAINST ITEM 86. MASTER SURVEILLANCE WAS BROUGHT UP TODAY FOR EQUITY SAKE. PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELVES. WE WALK OUT OF OUR DOORS DAILY DRIVE THROUGH THE TOLL BOOTH, GO TO THE LIBRARY, GROCERY STORE, AND EVEN HERE IN CITY HALL, AND WE ARE BEING WATCHED. MAYBE WE SHOULD STOP ALL THAT SURVEILLANCE SUPPORT REINSTATING LPRS, WHICH SUPPORT ITEM 52 SUPPORT LEO'S BENEFITS OR OFFICERS NEED THAT SUPPORT, UH, LETTING THE VOTERS DECIDE POLICE OVERSIGHT, NOT KNOWN CRIMINALS LIKE CHAS MOORE, FAIR MUSCADINE. ONLY ONCE THAT DON'T WANT LPRS OR SUPPORT OR LAW ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. OUR CRIMINALS ARE SOMEONE THAT HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE ALL LIVES. DO MATTER NO MATTER WHAT COLOR, WHAT RACE, WHAT UNIFORM WE WEAR. WE ALL MATTER. THANK YOU, CLINTON. RAREY ON 56 AND 87 ON DECK IS DAVID JOHNSON AND 86. JUST NEED TO GIVE MARK FOR SOME REASON. SO I'M FOR, UM, ITEM NUMBER 56, THE LPRS I HAVE 20 LPRS IS MASS SURVEILLANCE. I'D BE PETRIFIED TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK OF CELL PHONES THAT GEOLOCATE YOU AND RECORD YOU EVERY DAY. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO 86 AND 87, I OPPOSE IT NOT BECAUSE I OPPOSE, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR. I SUPPORT POLICE OVERSIGHT, BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT IT IS. THIS IS A BALLOT MANIPULATION. IT IS NOT OVERSIGHT. IT GIVES COMPLETE CONTROL AND [01:35:01] POWER OVER POLICY, PROCEDURE, AND CONTRACT NEGOTIATION TO A CIVILIAN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS NO EDUCATION ON POLICING REQUIRING ONLY 20 HOURS OF EDUCATION. NO RIDEALONG EXPERIENCE, NO DEESCALATION TRAINING EXPERIENCE. SO TO SEE WHAT THESE OFFICERS GO THROUGH ON A DAILY BASIS, CUZ CULTURE CHANGES AS WE'VE SEEN, CRIME RATES HAVE GONE UP MURDER RATES HAVE GONE UP UNDER OUR REIMAGINED POLICING, THAT IMPACTED MINORITY COMMUNITIES. SO IF WE'RE TRULY AFTER SUPPORTING AND PROTECTING MINORITY COMMUNITIES, LET'S DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. AND I PLEASE PLEASE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND REVIEWING THIS ORDINANCE. SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A PROPER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT ONLY FOCUSES ON THE OVERSIGHT AND NOT DEFUNDING THE POLICE THAT CHRIS HARRIS AND FARRA MUST DY ACTIVELY DO AND PROMOTE. AS YOU COULD SEE IN THE TWEET THAT I GAVE YOU GUYS ON THERE, CHRIS HARRIS PRETTY MUCH SAYS IS A STRENGTHENED MY RESOLVE TO DO EVERYTHING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FUND THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THANKS. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. DAVID JOHNSON ON DECK IS SARAH CAMPBELL. HELLO EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. DAVID JOHNSON, GRASSROOTS LEADERSHIP, UH, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FIVE COUNCIL PERSON, UH, HARBOR MEDICINE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CALLING IT MASS SURVEILLANCE, WHICH IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE MASS SURVEILLANCE, THE WHOLE GOAL IS MASS INCARCERATION. I, YOU ALL KNOW THAT I WAS GONNA COME UP HERE AND REMIND YOU OF ALL THE REASONS THAT THIS DOESN'T WORK. YOU'RE YOU'RE UNABLE TO PROTECT US FROM THE STATE. YOU'RE UNABLE TO PROTECT US FROM ANY ABUSES. THE ALMOST A HUNDRED IN THE CROW REPORT INSTANCES WHERE THEY JUST GOT AWAY WITH IT. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHY WE CAN'T TRUST APD AND WHY WE CAN'T TRUST YOU TO GIVE THEM MORE TOOLS. CUZ TOOLS IN A HAND OF A BULLY IS A WEAPON, THEIR WEAPON. THAT'S ALL THEY ARE. SO HERE'S A NOTICE OF A COMPLAINT TO OPO FROM JUNE 16TH. I'LL GIVE YOU HIGHLIGHTS. THE FIRST COMPLAINT IS WITH OFFICER BLANK. WHEN HE FIRST ARRIVED, HE IMMEDIATELY ESCALATED THE SITUATION HE BRUTALLY AND EXCESSIVELY FORCED MY GRANDSON TO THE GROUND AND HANDCUFFED HIM FOR NO APPARENT REASON. MY GRANDSON AND HIS GIRLFRIEND WERE IN AN EMOTIONAL TEENAGE BREAKUP, AS IT APPEARS IN MY VIDEO. WAIT, HE SENT AN IPHONE VIDEO, THEN THREE PATROL CARS ARRIVING MINUTES APART SIMPLY WALKED IN HANDCUFFS TO STAND CLOSER TO ME AND HIS GRANDFATHER AND THE COP BLANK GRABBED HIM AND PULLED HIM TO THE GROUND. THANK YOU FOR BEING THIS HAPPENED THIS SUMMER. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. THANK YOU UNTIL YOU GET THEM. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US TODAY. THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING. WE NEED TO GET TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE YOUR THANK YOU. SARAH CAMPBELL ON 56 AND 90 ON DECK IS DANIEL KAMAN. UM, HELLO AND WELL, AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE, I'M SPEAKING AGAINST 56, 87 91, AN UNSUPPORTIVE ITEM 86. ASK THAT Y'ALL SAY NO TO AL AL PRS. THEY'RE A TOOL FOR WARRANTLESS SURVEILLANCE ON A MASSIVE SCALE WITH NO TRUE ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT THE INFORMATION COLLECTED WILL NOT BE MISUSED. HERE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF HOW THEY'VE BEEN MISUSED IN THIS COUNTRY AND HOW WE SHOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE MISUSED HERE. LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS USED THEM TO SCAN PLATE ITS OF WORSHIPERS AND A MOSQUE POLICE HAVE USED THEM TO SPY ON AND STALK THEIR GIRLFRIENDS, THEIR EXES AND WOMEN. THEY DON'T KNOW. POLICE HAVE USED THEM TO SURVEIL JOURNALISTS, CRITICAL POLICE CONDUCT TOWNS USE THEM TO VIRTUALLY GATE, LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES TRACKING EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE THAT ENTERS AND LEAVES. I BELIEVE THE LAST EXAMPLE IS YOUR INTENTION WITH THIS TOOL, THIS WILL DIRECTLY INCREASE HARM TO AUSTIN'S COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND LOW INCOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I'M ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY AGAINST Y'ALL SPENDING THE CITY'S MONEY THIS WAY REGARDING ITEM 86. IT IS CLEAR THAT AUSTIN'S CITIZENS WANT AND DESERVE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY FROM P D. I STRONGLY REQUEST THAT YOU PASS 86 NOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. DANIEL KAMAN ON 66 AND 67 ON DECK IS ROY LEY. OKAY. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS DANIEL KAMAN. I'M A PRO-HOUSING ADVOCATE AND A COMMUNITY MEMBER IN DISTRICT THREE. I'M SPEAKING ON THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ITEM 66 AND 67. I FIRST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE IMPACTS OF THESE ITEMS SERIOUSLY AND PROCEEDING CAUTIOUSLY. I'M HERE TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR VARIOUS AMENDMENTS PROPOSED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TO SPEAK FOR A BROADER FUNDING STRATEGY IN THE FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBER, ELLIS'S PROPOSED AMENDMENT ON THE COUNCIL MESSAGE BOARD TO INCREASE RESIDENTIAL FEES BY ONLY 10% IS A DECENT COMPROMISE, BUT NO INCREASE AT ALL WOULD BE BETTER. COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON'S PROPOSALS TO PROTECT SMALL BUSINESSES, ALLOW FLOOD PLAIN LAND TO COUNT TOWARDS DEDICATION AND ADDRESS MIXED USE CONCERNS ARE THOUGHTFUL AND WORTH YOUR SUPPORT. MAYOR ADLER'S PROPOSALS FOR FEE COLLECTION TIMING AND ESPECIALLY A STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WILL ALSO CREATE A BETTER POLICY ON PARKLAND DEDICATION. MORE BROADLY. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY ARE REALLY THE BEST SOURCE OF FUNDING. THIS PUTS THE BURDEN ON NEW RESIDENTS, WORKERS AND BUSINESSES [01:40:01] AND STAFF STUDIES INDICATE THAT THE COMMERCIAL PROPOSAL WILL HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON AFFORDABILITY, A BOND, WHICH ALLOWS ALL OTEN KNIGHTS TO CONTRIBUTE IS THE MORE EQUITABLE FUNDING STRATEGY AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MORE SERIOUSLY AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO ADDITIONAL BURDENS ON NEW PROJECTS IN THE CITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ROY WHALEY ON 66, 67 AND 90 ON DECK IS WISE AAR. ERNEST, COULD YOU TELL ME WHICH ONES ON FOR SURE? 66 67 AND 90 90. OKAY. WELL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO INSTEAD OF SPEAKING ON 90 IS DONATE MY TIME TO MR. BILL BUNCH WHO IS GOING TO SPEAK ON THAT AND WILL SPEAK MUCH BETTER THAN I WILL. IT'S THE SAME 60 SECONDS. WILL YOU LET ME DO THAT? BUT CERTAINLY MR. BUNCH HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OR HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK AS WELL. I MEAN, DID HE, WELL, THERE'S NOTHING HE CAN SAY IN 60 SECONDS THAT Y'ALL NEED TO HEAR NOR IS THERE FOR ME, BUT IN, IN TWO MINUTES HE CAN ACTUALLY GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION TO CHEW ON. WHEREAS I CAN ONLY SAY A FEW THINGS AND MR. BUNCH HAS THE FACTS. I THINK IT WOULD BE ONLY PROPER THAT I GIVE MY 60 SECONDS TO HIM. IT'S THE SAME 60 SECONDS. I HEAR THAT AS I THINK YOU MAY KNOW FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY APPLYING, UH, A RULE THAT THIS COUNCIL CONTINUES TO TO APPLY. UH, SO WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. YOUR, YOUR TIME'S RUNNING, UH, AND YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO USE IT. HOWEVER, YOU'D LIKE, WELL, IN THAT CASE, I'LL JUST SPEAK ON THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ISSUE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON, ON THE PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT. AND NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, BUT THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS. SO I'VE LISTENED TO AND FOLLOWED WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER HAS SAID ABOUT THAT. AND SIERRA CLUB SUPPORTS COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER ON THIS. THANK YOU. A WISE, A CZAR ON 86 UP NEXT IS LEXI BOHAN MAYOR. YES. WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE NEXT SPEAKER TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM, I'M CURIOUS, I SAW A BUNCH OF VERY SHARP LOOKING YOUNG PEOPLE INTO THE ROOM. I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE OCCASION IS FOR. Y'ALL JOINING US IN CHAMBERS TODAY. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE THAT ROW RIGHT THERE ARE Y'ALL HERE WITH A SCHOOL OR A, A TRIP TO WATCH COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS OR THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK Y'ALL FOR JOINING US TODAY. WE NEED TO SEE MORE YOUNG FACES IN THIS ROOM. JANICE BOOKOUT ON ITEM 86 ON DECK IS CASSANDRA CHAMPION. THANK YOU, COUNCIL D 1 25 YEARS ON 86. I'VE HEARD THE POSITION TO LET PEOPLE SPEAK IN A VOTE. THE CONCERN IS MISPLACED 33,000 IS WAY BEYOND THE REQUIRED 20,000 IN 20 21, 60 8% OF AUSTIN VOTED NOT TO HIRE MORE OFFICERS. THE COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY SPOKEN AND A FOUR YEAR DELAY WOULD GO AGAINST THEIR INTERESTS OF THE 100 COMPLAINTS TO OPO EVERY MONTH, INCLUDING BRUTALITY MISCONDUCT AND RACIAL PROFILING. ONLY 1% ARE INVESTIGATED. MOST OF THEM INTERNAL REJECTING 86 MEANS ABOUT 4,700 IGNORED COMPLAINTS OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS AS FOR THE LEDGE THEY CAN, IF THEY CAN'T RETALIATE. IF WE PUT THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT, AS NON-NEGOTIABLE PEOPLE ARE CAPABLE OF RISING TO HIRE EXPECTATIONS, 217 CITIES HAD A REDUCTION IN VIOLENT CRIME OVER A, WITH A STRONG OPO AND THAT'S SO STUDY OF 217 AND EVEN THE POLICE, UH, CHIEF MAGAZINE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE BENEFITS OF COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND TO COMMUNITY RELATIONS. AND PLEASE SEE MY EMAIL FOR LINKS AND IF IT HELPS TO HAVE A MEMORABLE QUIP, 86, THE OPTION TO IGNORE COMMUNITY CLUB COMPLAINTS OF HARM. THANK YOU, CASSANDRA CHAMPION ON DECK IS THOMAS DOWNING. THOMAS DOWNING. NEXT IS COLBY DHAN I'M TOM DOWNING FROM DISTRICT FIVE, A RETIRED UNITED METHODIST PASTOR WHO ADMIRES [01:45:01] AND RESPECTS THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO DAILY PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE TO KEEP OUR CITY SAFE. HOWEVER, ALL OF US IN SERVICE PROFESSIONS SHARE A SPECIAL ABILITY TO HARM THOSE. WE ARE CALLED TO PROTECT THOUGH. MY PASTORAL MISCONDUCT CANNOT MAM OR KILL IT CAN THROUGH BETRAYAL OF TRUST AND EXPLORATION, EXPLOITATION OF THE VULNERABLE DESTROY LIVES ALMOST AS EFFECTIVELY AS ANY WEAPON WE WHO SERVE ALSO LIKE TO THINK WE CAN DISCIPLINE OURSELVES AFTER ALL WE'RE ON THE SIDE OF THE ANGELS, BUT SELF DISCIPLINE CAN FAIL. THE SIGN BEGINS WITH RUMORS, OPEN CLAIMS OF HARM, LACK OF TRUST, AND LOST OF COOPERATION FROM VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. NEXT COME MULTIMILLION DOLLAR LAWSUITS AND CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR THE OFFENDERS. I'VE SEEN THIS PROGRESSION IN MY OWN PROFESSION. WE SEE IT NOW IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, I URGE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE FOR ITEM 86, CREATING AN INDEPENDENT OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. THANK YOU, COLBY. DHAN ON 86 ON DECK IS QUINCY DUNLAP, NA GARLA PATTI ON 86, SCOTT HENSON ON 86, SHANE JOHNSON, 86 ON DECK IS SHEEN KAUL. ALL RIGHT. UH, GOOD MORNING OR ALMOST AFTERNOON. UH, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SHANE JOHNSON, IAN PRONOUNS. I'M RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN, AND MY PARENTS ARE ALSO RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT SEVEN HAS BECOME BEHALF OF, UM, YOU CAN'T PROMISE THAT CITY STAFF WON'T BRING YOU AN UNACCEPTABLE CONTRACT. AGAIN, YOU CAN'T PROMISE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HOLD A PLACE FOR THE, UH, AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT TO BE IMPLEMENTED AFTER MAY. YOU CAN'T EVEN PROMISE THAT A FUTURE COUNCIL WON'T ROLL IT BACK BEFORE 2027. UM, AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU TO VOTE. UH, NO ON, WELL, NO, ON 8 56 IN ADDITION, BUT NO, UH, YES. ON 86, EXCUSE ME. NO, ON 56. YES. ON 86. NO, ON 87 AND NO ON 91. UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE DON'T PASS THE O OVERSIGHT ACT, NOW IT'S DEAD IN MAY. YOU SHOULD ALL KNOW THAT BY NOW. AND OVER 30,000 PEOPLE ON COMMUNITY SIGNED THE PETITION, DON'T SILENCE THEIR VOICES. UH, THE ONLY PROMISE YOU PROPOSE, UH, IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SHAMEFUL AND ITEMS 56 AND 91 ARE WHAT INSTITUTIONAL RACISM LOOK LIKE IN 2022. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. SHEEN KAUL ON 86 ON DECK IS BRIAN MCGON BRIAN MCGON KATHLEEN MITCHELL ON DECK IS MOLLY PET NICK. HI, I'M KATHY MITCHELL AND I'M HERE TODAY, UH, WITH ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAMOUS GIANT BINDERS OF STUFF. UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME KNOW THIS IS HOW I SHOW UP. UM, THIS IS RECENT COMPLAINTS FILED WITH THE OPO AGAINST THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND YOU HAVE HEARD PEOPLE TAKING PIECES OF THESE AND READING THEM BACK TO YOU, GIVING YOU THE WORDS THAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING THE OPO IN THE MOST RECENT WINDOW. SO THIS IS LIKE AUGUST, JULY, JUNE, THAT'S IT. AND THIS IS JUST WHAT WAS FILED WITH THE OPO. THERE ARE FAR MORE THAT ARE FILED DIRECTLY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE DON'T GET TO SEE. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND FINISH READING THE ONE THAT, UH, DAVID JOHNSON STARTED BECAUSE, UH, HE RAN OUT OF TIME. THIS IS FROM A GRANDFATHER. THEIR ONLY JOB IS TO DEAL WITH CRIME, NOT TEENAGE RELAT RELATIONSHIP BREAKUPS. THE GIRLFRIEND SAID SEVERAL TIMES THAT SHE WAS FINE AND THAT THERE WAS NO CRIME COMMITTED CRIME IS THE KEY HERE. THERE WAS NO CRIME. THESE OFFICERS ARE HOSTILE, UNTRAINED AND AGGRESSIVE. I'M GLAD HIS GRANDMOTHER AND [01:50:01] I WERE THERE. I THINK IF WE WERE NOT, HE WOULD'VE BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED OR MAYBE KILLED. I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT AS YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TODAY, IT'S ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR THESE PEOPLE. THANK YOU. WHO JUST SUFFERED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOLLY PET NICK ON 86 ON DECK AS PAUL QUINCY. MY NAME IS MOLLY CHEN. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT THREE AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING TEXAS CIVIL RIGHTS PROJECT. T CRP HAS FOUGHT FOR EQUALITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL TEXANS FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. AND BASED ON THIS EXPERIENCE, WE UNEQUIVOCALLY URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT IN FAVOR OF 86 AND AGAINST 87. FUNCTIONING POLICE OVERSIGHT IS FUNDAMENTAL TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT PLACING THE ACT ON THE BALLOT IN MAY, IN NO WAY, SERVES THIS GOAL AS ADVOCATES FOR VOTING RIGHTS ACROSS TEXAS T CRP UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF DEMOCRATIC PARTICIPATION AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. BUT DEFERRING THIS VOTE WILL ONLY RESTRICT PARTICIPATION ENGAGEMENT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS BY GUARANTEEING THAT POLICE OVERSIGHT NEVER SEES THE LIGHT OF DAY AND THAT THE WILL OF VOTERS CAN'T BE PUT INTO ACTION, A VOTE TO PLACE THE ACT ON THE MAY BALLOT IS A VOTE AGAINST POLICE OVERSIGHT FOR YEARS TO COME TEXAS CIVIL RIGHTS PROJECT URGES YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE POLICE OVER THE POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT TODAY, ITEM 86 AND AGAINST DEFERRING THE MEASURE UNTIL MAY ITEM 87. REAL OVERSIGHT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE SAFETY, DIGNITY, AND RIGHTS OF EVERYONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU, PAUL QUINCY ON 86 ON DECK IS JOHN RAM RAMIREZ ANNA RODRIGUEZ DE FREIGHTS ON 86. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HERE, UH, TO ASK YOU TO VOTE NOW TODAY ON THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT, NOT DELAY ONE DAY, FOUR MONTHS. NOT AT ALL. I WANT THIS OVERSIGHT TO NEVER BE A POINT OF NEGOTIATION AND POLICE CONTRACTS. I WANT TO STAND ON ITS OWN. I WANT TO DISENTANGLE IT FROM THAT PROCESS. UM, I APPROACH THIS WORK AS SOMEONE WHO IS DEEPLY CONNECTED TO, UM, VICTIMS OF CRIME. UH, I'VE COME BEFORE THIS BODY A LOT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M ALSO SEEING THAT SAME COMMUNITY, UM, BEING LEVERAGED AS A REASON TO JUSTIFY INCREASED SURVEILLANCE OR NOT ENOUGH OVERSIGHT. I'M SAYING THAT NEITHER VICTIMS NOR PEOPLE ACCUSED OF CRIMES ARE SAFE TODAY, AND THAT WE NEED INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT. THAT IS TRANSPARENT, AND THAT HAS CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT. WE NEED IT TO BE DISENTANGLED FROM THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND WE NEED IT TODAY. TODAY, SAM KRS ON 56 AND 86. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SAM KRS. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE, WELL WAS PROTESTING ON MAY 31ST, 2020. I WAS SHOT IN THE EYE WITH THE BEAN BACKGROUND BY AN APD OFFICER. I HAVE DISTORTED DOUBLE VISION, EYE PAIN, A LOSS OF FIELD OF VIEW AND DEATH PERCEPTION, EYELID SPASMS, NAUSEA, NERVE PAIN, AND NERVE DAMAGE. IT IS IMPERATIVE FOR THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE APO A WITH NO DELAY, BASIC OVERSIGHT. TRANSPARENCY SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH COPS, WAGES AND BENEFITS. THE COUNCIL MUST ALSO REJECT A PS TODAY. CHIEF JACOB'S, UH, TESTIMONY ON SEPTEMBER 1ST RAISED EVEN MORE CONCERNS. HE DODGED THE QUESTION ABOUT OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT DO PROSECUTE ABORTION IN REGARDS TO DATA SHARING WITH ARICK. THE GRACE ACT STATES THAT CITY FUNDS SHOULDN'T BE USED TO CATALOG REPORTS OF ABORTION. YET CHIEF JACOB SPECIFICALLY STATED HE WANTED A PRS ON MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. IF SOMEBODY'S SEEKING AN ABORTION AND TRAVELING BY CAR, THEY'RE GONNA BE LEAVING AUSTIN ON A MAJOR HIGHWAY. HE STATED THE DATABASE SOFTWARE MUST BE AVAILABLE TO ALL OFFICERS IN THEIR VEHICLES. YOU CAN'T HAND OVER MO THE MOVEMENTS OF NEARLY EVERYONE IN AUSTIN TO ABD OFFICERS. WHEN 40% OF POLICE OFFICERS ENGAGE IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, HE WAS PURPOSELY MISLEADING THE COUNCIL IN THE PUBLIC. SO WHY SHOULD YOU ENTRUST HIM TO HIS DEPARTMENT TO TRACK OUR EVERY MOVEMENT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AGREE WITH THIS. THANK YOU. KIMBERLY ICK ON 86 [01:55:02] ON DECK IS MORGAN SHELBURN MIKE SIEGEL, CYNTHIA SIMMONS JACKSON. WAYNE JACKSON IS SPEAKING ON ITEM 86 ON DECK IS DUBO GOOD AFTERNOON. EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS JACKSON Y AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION OF TEXAS. WE OPPOSE ITEM 56 AND SUPPORT ITEM 86. WE GIVE, UH, OFFICERS MORE AUTHORITY THAN ANY OTHER PROFESSION, THE POWER TO STOP SEARCH ARREST, AND EVEN USE DEADLY FORCE. THIS POWER MEANS WE HAVE A GREATER RESPONSIBILITY TO HOLD OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR MISCONDUCT, BUT THE CURRENT RULES IN AUSTIN SHIELD OFFICERS FROM ACCOUNTABILITY. THE MEANINGFUL REVIEW OF COMPLAINTS IS BLOCKED COMPLAINTS OLDER THAN 180 DAYS ARE DISCARDED AND DISCIPLINARY HISTORY OF OFFICERS IS HIDDEN. EVEN WHEN THEY KILL OUR NEIGHBORS A VOTE AGAINST ITEM 86, UH, PRESERVES THESE INJUSTICES, A VOTE AGAINST ITEM 86 WILL DELAY AND MAYBE EVEN DERAIL MEANINGFUL POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY MAY, MAY ADLER COUNCIL. WE ARE LOOKING TO YOU TO LEAD. PLEASE VOTE FOR ITEM 86, MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER AND ENSURE MEANINGFUL POLICE. ACCOUNTABILITY IS NEVER AGAIN, BARGAINED AWAY. THANK YOU, ALEX. DUBBO ON DECK IS BILL BUNCH. HI, MY NAME IS, UH, ALEX DUBO. I AM A RETIRED N Y P D DETECTIVE SERGEANT FROM THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS BUREAU. EXCUSE ME. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE SPOKEN PUBLIC, UH, REGARDING ITEM 56, I USED LICENSE PLATE READERS FOR HALF MY CAREER CATCHING CRIMINALS AND THE OTHER HALF CATCHING CORRUPT POLICE OFFICERS. I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW WE NEED LICENSE PLATE READERS. CUZ IF I CAN'T USE A LICENSE PLATE READER, I WILL GET A SUBPOENA FOR YOUR CELL PHONES AND PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT. SO I PLEASE DO THE LICENSE PLATE READERS IN REGARDS TO POLICE OVERSIGHT. UM, I WORKED WITH THE CCRB. I THINK IT'S GREAT. HOWEVER, UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, AT LEAST A MEMBER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE BOARD ARE ON THE OVERSIGHT BECAUSE CIVILIANS AND POLICE OFFICERS, THEY CLASH ALL THE TIME AND NOTHING'S GONNA GET DONE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BILL BUNCH ON DECK IS JUSTIN HOWELL. MR. BUNCH IS SPEAKING ON ITEMS 86, 87 AND 90. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, BILL BUNCH. FIRST SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FIVE IN SUPPORT OF 86, WE NEED THE INDEPENDENT POLICE OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY REINSTATED. PLEASE DO THAT TODAY. PLEASE DON'T MAKE SOME STATEMENTS ABOUT THAT. YOU SUPPORT IT, BUT YOU WANTED TO GO TO THE VOTERS IN MAY, UH, THAT'S UNNECESSARY DELAY, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PROMISE THAT WE'LL STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. GIVEN THE, THE PENDING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE POLICE UNION ON ITEM NINE. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE AND THE ZER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. UH, FIRST THIS ITEM IS BOTH LEGALLY DEFICIENT AND MISLEADING IN ITS POSTING. IT CALLS FOR DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO CREATE A REGULATING PLAN, UM, FOR THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT. THAT IS A TECHNICAL TERM UNDER THE TAX CODE, UH, WHICH REFERS TO AND IS REQUIRED FOR THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE. YOU DON'T THE NOTICE DOES NOT MENTION THE REINVESTMENT ZONE. YOU'RE NOT POSTED TO TAKE ACTION AS THE TURS BOARD. UM, AND THAT'S JUST TO GET STARTED ON HOW GROSSLY MISLEADING THIS IS. YOU ARE NOT IMPLEMENTING THIS THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT BOARD. YOU'RE NOT IMPLEMENTING A REGULATING PLAN. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING, IMPLEMENTING A DEREGULATED PLAN. APPRECIATE YOUR APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US TODAY. THANK YOU. AND THE TRASH. WE NEED TO GET TO SOME OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS, SIR. THANK YOU. THIS COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS CITY. THANK YOU, CARRIE ONE WITH THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NOW, EVERYBODY ELSE TODAY IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO SPEAK TODAY AND, AND YOU'RE MAKING IT REALLY DIFFICULT AS IT IS. THE COUNCIL'S GONNA BE HERE TILL 1230 NEXT. YOU NEXT SPEAKER IS JUSTIN HOWELL. PLEASE CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER. MR. HOW [02:00:01] MR. HOW HERE PLEASE. THANK YOU. DON'T COMMIT THIS FRAUD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON THIS. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. ITEM AT THE LAST MINUTE. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. JUSTIN HOWELL SPEAKING ON 86, 87 AND 91 ON DECK IS JULES MANDEL, MANDEL. ALICIA CASTILLO. COME ON ON, GO AHEAD PLEASE. I, UH, MY NAME IS JULES MANDEL. UM, I USE THEY THEM AND HE HIM PRONOUNS AND I'M A MEMBER OF DISTRICT NINE. UM, AND I'M THE CO-FOUNDER OF DISRUPTOR COLLABORATIVE, WHICH IS A PROGRESSIVE CONSULTING FIRM HERE IN AUSTIN. UM, AND A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, UM, COUNCIL RU TOVO. I WAS REALLY ENCOURAGED WHEN I HEARD THAT YOU'LL BE VOTING YES ON ITEM 86. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING REAL JUSTICE IN AUSTIN. UM, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON ITEM 56, AS WE'VE HEARD, UM, MAYOR ADLER, I'M SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO YOU ON THIS ONE IN 2020, WHEN I WAS HERE AFTER THE UPRISINGS, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP IN HOW AUSTIN BOLDLY DECIDED TO DEFUND THE POLICE IN RESPONSE TO THEIR BRUTALITY. AND WHILE THE COMPROMISE THAT YOU HAVE COME UP WITH OF PUSHING THE VOTE OF THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT UNTIL MAY, MAY SEEM LIKE A COMPROMISE. IT'S A CONCESSION, IT WILL COME TOO LATE. THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WILL ALREADY HAPPENED AND WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT YOUR HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT THAT FEAR OF THE OPPOSITION IS PUSHING YOU TO COMPROMISE ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU THANK YOU TO REMAIN IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT I KNOW YOU BELIEVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALICIA CASTILLO, SPEAKING ON 86 AND 87, ONDECK IS WENDY TODD. HI, MY NAME IS ALICIA CASTILLO. I'M A DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT I'M DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND ADVOCACY FOR THE TEXAS CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND EQUITY AND A BOARD MEMBER AT EQUITY ACTION. I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 86 AND AGAINST ITEM 56 IN ITEMS 87 AND 91. UM, AND YOU'LL HEAR A LOT OF REASONS WHY TODAY. UM, AND WHILE IT IS SHOCKING TO ME THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER PASSING A MASS SURVEILLANCE INITIATIVE WITHOUT PASSING OVERSIGHT. UM, THERE ARE A LOT MORE REASONS, UM, THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE SHOCKING FOR US TO NOT, UM, GET OVERSIGHT TODAY. UM, AND ONE OF THOSE IS LIKE KATHY MENTIONED BEFORE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH OVER TWO YEARS OF RECENT, UM, OVER OVERSIGHT, UM, COMPLAINTS. UM, AND FROM THOSE WE SAW LOTS OF THEMES, LOTS OF PATTERNS, ONES YOU MIGHT EXPECT RACISM, UM, EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE. UM, BUT ONE THAT I ALMOST DIDN'T SPEAK ABOUT TODAY BECAUSE IT'S SO COMMONPLACE AND THAT'S AGGRESSIVE IN THREATENING BEHAVIOR FROM POLICE OFFICERS ON THE ROAD. UM, AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL GET THE CHANCE TO HEAR SOME OF THOSE COMPLAINTS LATER ON TODAY AND SUPPORT, UM, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT TODAY. DON'T DELAY WENDY TODD, UH, MAYOR. I JUST GOT A COMMUNICATION FROM WENDY TODD, AND I WANNA CLARIFY, UM, OUR SPEAKERS. SO I BELIEVE WENDY TODD INTENDS TO SPEAK ABOUT SOME ZONING ITEMS, BUT ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT 90. WILL YOU ENTER, WILL INDIVIDUALS BE ABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEMS ON THE CONSENT LATER AFTER TWO WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT ZONING ITEMS. PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP INDEPENDENTLY ON ZONING AT TWO, AND HERE THIS MORNING AT 10, THEY CAN SPEAK BOTH TIMES, BUT IF SHE WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT 90, IT HAS TO HAPPEN. NOW BEFORE WE CONCLUDE OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL LET HER KNOW. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE IN PERSON SPEAKERS. OKAY. LET'S HOLD HERE FOR JUST A SECOND. DID ANYBODY ELSE SIGN UP TO SPEAK? OH, YOU WANNA COME TO CLERK MAYOR WHILE THEY'RE REGISTERING? I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I DO THINK THERE'S CONFUSION GIVEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE STATESMAN POD, WHICH IS ON OUR ZONING AGENDA AND NUMBER 90 ABOUT THE SOUTH CENTRAL. I THINK WE MAY HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS WHO THOUGHT THEY COULD COME AT TWO O'CLOCK AND TALK ABOUT THAT, MISTAKING THAT FOR A ZONING ITEM. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WILL BE MULTIPLE PEOPLE OR JUST ONE OR TWO, BUT, UM, I WOULD LET'S LET'S THE, HOW THAT GOES. I THINK YOU, I WOULD ENTER YOUR WAY THROUGH THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU. [02:05:05] OKAY. GO. OKAY. I'M SORRY FOR THAT'S OKAY. IT TOOK ME A WHILE. GET OVER HERE. UH, MY NAME IS SHERRY TAYLOR. I, UM, I WAS, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM 38, WHICH YOU DELAYED TO THE 29TH OF SEPTEMBER. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WAS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN A DAC SPACE CELEBRATION, WHICH IS TOMORROW. AND IF I WAIT TILL THE 29TH, 16TH TO SEPTEMBER CELEBRATION WOULD BE PAST TENSE. SO, UM, MY NAME IS SHERRY TAYLOR. I SIGNED UP AS SOPHIE WASHINGTON BECAUSE I AM ALSO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, SURVIVOR SOME FROM MAY 20TH. AND I DIDN'T WANT THAT PERSON TO SHOW UP HERE AND INTERRUPT. SO, UM, WE ARE HAVING AT WILDFLOWER TERRA APARTMENTS, WHICH IS A SENIOR COMMUNITY, A MEET THE CANDIDATES EVENT. MANY OF THE SENIORS LIKE MYSELF CANNOT HAVE TOLERANCE FOR HEAT AND CAN'T TRAVEL HAVE TO GET UP AT FOUR 30 IN THE MORNING JUST TO GET READY FOR THE BUS TO COME PICK YOU UP. SO, UM, UH, SO WE ARE HAVING A MOCK WEDDING RECEPTION BETWEEN JULIO'S CORN TORTILLA CHIPS AND AMY'S ENCHILADAS. UH, I WAS TOLD I DID NOT HAVE THE EVENT BECAUSE, UM, I DIDN'T ORGANIZE IT, BUT I DID ORGANIZE IT. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ATTEND IT'S FROM FOUR TO SEVEN ON FRIDAY PM. WE WANT A POTLUCK TO MEET THE CANDIDATES BECAUSE WE CANNOT COME OUT IN THE HEAT TO SEE Y'ALL AT YOUR DIFFERENT, UH, ENGAGEMENTS THAT Y'ALL ARE HAVING, UM, FOR THE VOTE THAT'S COMING UP. SO I ALSO HAPPEN TO BE RUNNING FOR US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT, UH, CLASSES FOR WHITE PEOPLE. ONLY THAT'S BEING SPONSORED BY THE MUELLER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, FOR SEPTEMBER IT'S CALLED RACISM WORKSHOP, BUT I THOUGHT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANTI-RACISM WORKSHOP, BUT THEIRS IS FOR $500 SCHOLARSHIPS. I VOLUNTEERED TO GO TO THE CLASS AND I WAS TOLD IT WAS FOR WHITE PEOPLE ONLY. THANK YOU. MY CONTACT NUMBER IS SEVEN ONE S 7 3 7 7 1 7 7 2 5 0. YAY. DAC SIX. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE SIGNED UP AT THIS POINT. UH, WE'RE GONNA GET TO THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION SPEAKERS HERE IN, UH, IN JUST A MOMENT. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN TAKE A, UH, DO WE WANNA VOTE ON CONSENT OR DO WE WANT GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON CONSENT? IN WHICH CASE WE'LL DO IT AFTER LUNCH, YOU WANNA TRY AND TAKE A VOTE ON CONSENT? OKAY. WHAT? WE'LL GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON CONSENT AFTER LUNCH, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN LET STAFF GO NOW. OKAY. SO [Consent Agenda] I'M SHOWING THAT THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM ONE THROUGH 58 AND THEN ALSO IT 86 TO 91. I'M SHOWING THAT THE POLLED ITEMS TODAY ARE 26, 29, 30 53 54 55, 56, 86, 87, 90 AND 91. AGAIN, THE CONSENT IS AGENDA ITEMS, ONE THROUGH 58, 86 TO 91. THE POLL ITEMS ARE 26, 29, 30 53 54 55 56, 86, 87 90 91. UH, IS THERE WE'LL CONTINUE. ONE SECOND. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCILS MEMBER POOL MAKES THAT MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, ALICE SECONDS, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTION BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES. UM, YOU SAID THAT NUMBER 26 WAS PULLED. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WASN'T BECAUSE OF ME. I, I DIDN'T WANNA PULL IT. I JUST WANTED TO OFFER SOME CLARITY AND READ INTO THE RECORD. I MADE THAT RECORD. I MADE THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO MAKE COMMITMENTS. THANK YOU TO THAT. SO WE'LL DISCUSS THAT MORE IN LENGTH SINCE WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE YES. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, IF THE CLERK COULD PLEASE REFLECT THAT I'M VOTING NO ON ITEMS 18 23 32 34 61 90 AND 92. THANK YOU. OKAY. BEEN MOVED IN SECOND, A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND, AND ALSO WITH RESPECT TO NUMBER 27, UM, IS THERE, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, NUMBER 27 IS A, A LEGAL SETTLEMENT. WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVED PAYMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL $249,391 OVER THE SPECIAL COMMISSIONER'S AWARD, [02:10:01] WHICH WAS $475,000 AND $475,681. SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN VERSUS BLUFF SPRINGS IS $725,000 AND 72 CENTS. THIS IS A 2020 LAWSUIT. WE SENT A LEGAL MEMO ON IT TO, UH, YOU ALREADY IT'S CONDEMNATION TO ACQUIRE AN EASEMENT TO UPGRADE AN AUSTIN ENERGY TRANSMISSION LINE IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS PAYMENT DEFENDANT WILL RELEASE ITS CLAIM FOR ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR THE ACQUISITION. SO WE RECOMMEND PAYMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OBJECTION TO THAT BE INCLUDED ON, AS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ITEM NUMBER 27, HEARING NONE. THAT'S WHAT ITEM NUMBER 27 IS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER REN THREE AND COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. UH, YES, MARY ON, ON IT OF, UH, 26. I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, HANG ON 26. WE'VE PULLED THAT ONE. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ONE. I'M I'M WITHDRAWING MY REQUEST. OKAY. BECAUSE I'M IN CONVERSATION WITH OUR CONSULTANT READ AND SHE SAID THAT IT'S BETTER IF I JUST PULL BACK AND WE COULD ALWAYS ADD IT LATER ON. SOUNDS GOOD. WE'LL CONSIDER CHAPTER ITEM 26 LATER. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON AN ITEM ON CONSENT. SHOULD I MAKE THAT NOW OR, OR LATER? NO, WE DECIDED JUST A SECOND AGO. WE'RE GONNA MAKE COMMENTS AFTER, AFTER THE BREAK. UH, SO LET'S THEN VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE, UH, MAYOR. MAYOR. YES. MAYOR PRO I'M SORRY. MY, MY, UH, COMPUTER, UH, DECIDED TO RESTART AS YOU WERE, UM, AS YOU WERE READING THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I'M NOW I THINK DOUBLE ON THE SCREEN, BUT, UM, I WANNA JUST CONFIRM. SO WE'VE PULLED 26, 29, 30 53 54 55 AND 56, 86, 87, 90, 90 AND 91. CORRECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR, THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED I'M SHOWING, UH, ALL OF US VOTING IN FAVOR. THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS PASSED. ALL [Public Comments (Part 2 of 3)] RIGHT. SO LET'S GO TO THEN THE, UH, UH, FOLKS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO, UH, SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS, UH, AGENDA IS EVERYONE. DO WE HAVE ANY REMOTE SPEAKERS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TODAY? WE DO NOT. SO LET'S BEGIN WITH PAUL ROBINS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, MR. ROBINS. YOU SURE YOU'RE READY FOR ME? I'M ALREADY COUNSEL. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON TWO ENERGY RELATED MATTERS. FIRST, RECENTLY, THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY PASSED A RESOLUTION, ASKING YOU TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE REBATES THAT TEXAS GAS SERVICE IS GIVING THESE REBATES ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH AUSTIN'S CLIMATE GOALS. I HAD MY OWN OPINION THAT THESE ARE ALSO NOT COST EFFECTIVE AT SAVING GAS. EITHER THE RESOLUTION WILL SAVE ALMOST $900,000 IN RATE PAYER MONEY A YEAR. AND WE ASK THAT YOU VOTE ON THIS BEFORE NOVEMBER 30TH IN TIME FOR THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR OF THESE PROGRAMS. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ADVISE YOU ON TODAY IS AN ISSUE THAT WILL PROBABLY DOMINATE MUCH OF OCTOBER ELECTRIC RATES, AUSTIN ENERGY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED A 48 MILLION INCREASE, WHICH IT INTENDED TO FALL LARGELY ON RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. FORTUNATELY, SEVERAL OF THE INTERVENERS HAVE RESEARCHED THIS IN GREAT DETAIL AND HAVE FOUND AT LEAST 56 MILLION IN POTENTIAL SAVINGS. AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ABOUT 12.5 MILLION IN SAVINGS THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN AGREED TO, UH, BUY THE UTILITY LARGELY BECAUSE THE UTILITY MADE A MISCALCULATION, BUT I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THREE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD REDUCE RATES BESIDES THIS 56000001ST INTERVENE. OUR NO NETTA COOPER HAS DETERMINED THAT TOWN LAKE CENTER, THE FORMER AUSTIN ENERGY HEADQUARTERS BUILDING WILL BE SOLD NEXT YEAR. AND THAT WOULD DEFRAY ABOUT 6.1 MILLION ANNUALLY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SECOND, AIRCO EXPERIENCED A 9% YEAR ON YEAR INCREASE BETWEEN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR AND AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. IT IS AT POSSIBLE THAT INCREASED CONSUMPTION WILL CREATE A LI WINDFALL THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED OVER FIVE YEARS TO REDUCE A RATE INCREASE IN SAN ANTONIO. IN FACT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS FIGHTING OVER HOW TO SPEND 75 MILLION IN SURPLUS. THIRD, WHY AREN'T WE COLLECTING THE FULL COST OF GROWTH IN 2014 ON KATHY TOGO'S MOTION COUNCIL SOUGHT TO COLLECT 100% OF GROWTH RELATED COSTS, BUT THIS WAS ONLY COLLECTED FOR ONSITE [02:15:01] BUILDING HOOKUPS. OTHER OUR WATER UTILITY HAS A RECOVERY FEE THAT COLLECTS FOR COMMON INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL, SUCH AS WATER TREATMENT PLANTS IN RESERVOIR. THE ELECTRIC UTILITY HAS NOT PURSUED THIS STRATEGY, AND THIS COULD BE ANOTHER POSSIBLE SAVINGS COUNCIL I'M ASKING YOU TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THESE ISSUES. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION. YES. UM, MR. ROBINS, THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CONNECT WITH YOU ABOUT THE AUSTIN ENERGY BUILDING, AS WELL AS THE LAST ITEM YOU MENTIONED WITH REGARD TO COST RECOVERY. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT YOU RAISED, AND I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO REALLY CREDIT JUDY FA IN TERMS OF THE LINE EXTENSION, UM, SOLUTION THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD, CUZ SHE, SHE WAS REALLY THE, THE FORCE BEHIND OUR MAKING THAT CHANGE. BUT I DO WANNA, I DO WANNA ADDRESS THE POINT THAT YOU RAISED THAT THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THERE. YES. AT 106, SHE'S STILL A FOR, TO BE RECKONED WITH. YES. AND I REALLY LOVE THAT SHE PREFACES ALL OF HER COMMUNICATIONS TO US BY CITING THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SHE SAVED US WITH THAT LINE EXTENSION FEE, WHICH IS EXACTLY RIGHT. WE HAVE, WE HAVE NETTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE WERE PREVIOUSLY LOSING BECAUSE OF THAT ASSET. WE NETTED SO MUCH MONEY THAT WE HAD A RATE DECREASE IN 2016 BECAUSE OF IT. YEP. AND IT WAS JUST REALLY, I REALIZE YOU'RE PRESSED FOR TIE. I'M JUST GONNA MAKE ONE QUICK STATEMENT ON THIS. IS THAT IN, UM, YOU'VE GOT A DISPARITY BETWEEN WHAT THE WATER UTILITY DOES AND WHAT THE ELECTRIC UTILITY DOES AND IT'S, IT'S UNFATHOMABLE TO ME. YEAH. IT'S A VERY GOOD, I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. AND JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE VISITING POSSIBLY FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT'S JUST THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT. AND IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS IN OUR COMMUNITY VERY OFTEN CAN BRING FORWARD. LIKE, LIKE YOU AND LIKE JUDY, YOU KNOW, CAN BRING US IDEAS THAT ARE ARE REALLY BENEFICIAL AND MAKE HUGE IMPACTS FOR ALL OF US. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER IS, UM, UH, BEZO GUI. OKAY. UM, WE DO HAVE A POWERPOINT. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE'S GONNA UH BEZA OR BEZO. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR STEVE ADLER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US TODAY. MY NAME IS BEZA AND I WILL BE REPRESENTING US AS WELL. OH, NEXT. SO US AS WOWS COMPRISED OF YOUNG ADULT WORKERS FROM THE WORLD MISSION SOCIETY, CHURCH OF GOD, WE HAVE OVER 7,500 CHURCHES IN 175 COUNTRIES. US AS STANDS FOR SAVE THE EARTH FROM A TO Z. AND WOWS STANDS FOR, WE ARE ONE FAMILY. CURRENTLY OUR VOLUNTEER GROUP IS FOCUSED ON GP GP, WHICH IS THE GREAT PACIFIC GARBAGE PATCH. AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, IT HAS THE LARGEST ACCUMULATION OF OCEAN TRASH AND OUR, AND OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETELY ERADICATE GP G. CURRENTLY THERE IS OVER 330, 3 MILLION TONS OF PLASTIC TRASHED ON LAND. AND UNFORTUNATELY 99% OF SEA BIRDS WILL HAVE CONSUMED THIS TRASH BY 2050. AND ABOUT 90% OF SEA BIRDS HAVE ALREADY HAVE INGESTED VINYL AND PLASTIC SUBSTANCES IN THE MARINE WORLD. ABOUT 15% OF LIVING ORGANISMS HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO PLASTIC POLLUTION AND THEY HAVE BECOME ENDANGERED SPECIES. THIS IS A MASSIVE CONCERN FOR HUMAN BEINGS BECAUSE OF MICROPLASTICS. MICROPLASTICS ARE LESS THAN 0.5 CENTIMETERS, AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT FILTERED THROUGH THE SEWAGE SYSTEM. AS A RESULT, THEY DO ENTER THE SEA AND FISH INGEST IT, MISTAKING IT AS FOOD NEXT, SORRY. NEXT, [02:20:02] WE AS HUMANS IN THE FOOD CHAIN, WE DO END UP CONSUMING THESE MICROPLASTIC BY MEANS OF FOOD. NOW THE 14 SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT GOAL FOR THE UNITED NATIONS IS TO PROTECT THE MARINE ECOSYSTEM. AND THAT'S WHY WE WANNA WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS ERADICATING GP G P AS OUR GROUP. WE ARE CURRENTLY MAKING EFFORTS IN VARIOUS WAYS. THE FIRST IS THROUGH US AS WOW ACADEMY THROUGH WHICH WE DEVELOP AS WHILE ACTIVISTS BY EDUCATING, SUPPORTING, AND INSPIRING OUR PEERS THROUGH OUR 12 STEP PLAN. NEXT SUCKS. AND THEN NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN NEXT SLIDE. PERFECT. SO DUE TO THE ONGOING GLOBAL WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE, WE HAVE BEEN THE RECIPIENTS OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARD, WHICH WE HAVE RECEIVED TWICE. AND WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED THE PRESTIGIOUS GREEN APPLE AWARD FOR THREE YEARS IN A ROW COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE REASON WHY I'M STANDING HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. OUR RESEARCHERS HAVE CALCULATED THE WAIT AND NUMBER OF PLASTICS TO BE COLLECTED IN EACH CITY, ACROSS THE GLOBE TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON OUR ENVIRONMENT. THE AMOUNT NEEDED TO BE COLLECTED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS 12,501 POUNDS. WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE COUNCIL OF AUSTIN IN ORDER TO PLAY OUR PART IN PROTECTING OUR CITY MAYOR ADLER, YOU ARE RIGHT. AUSTIN IS A MAGICAL PLACE WITH SPIRIT AND SOUL. YOU STATED THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE SMARTER AND LONGER TERM PLANS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT OF OUR WATER AS ASSETS AND SEEING HOW MUCH EFFORT YOU PUT INTO PRACTICING AND PROTECTING OUR WATER INSPIRED US TO TAKE ON BIGGER PROJECTS, SUCH AS GP, G P COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR ADLER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, MAYOR. YES. IF I COULD JUST ASK A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT GROUP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING, AND IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOUR AREA OF, AND YOUR AREA OF FOCUS. AND I'VE ASKED, UM, ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS TO COME DOWN AND JUST CONNECT WITH YOU BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON A RESOLUTION RELATED TO SINGLE USE PLASTIC FOR, UM, TO GO MEALS. AWESOME. AND WOULD LOVE TO, WOULD LOVE TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND OUR CHAPTER IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN DISTRICT NINE. SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, KATHY TOVA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SUPPORT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND FREE FOR YOUR ADVOCACY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER WOULD BE, UH, BRADLEY LOTZ MAYOR. YES. WELL THAT SPEAKER APPROACHES THE PODIUM. I KNOW WE CALLED, UM, UH, UH, QUINCY DUNLAP EARLIER. HE JUST WALKED IN. I DON'T KNOW IF, IF HE'S ABLE TO SPEAK STILL. WELL, HE WILL GIVE HIM A MINUTE TO SPEAK AS WE DID THE OTHERS, THE END OF THIS PROCESS. GO AHEAD. READY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR STEVE ADLER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. MY NAME IS BRAD AND I'M A REPRESENTATIVE FOR ASES, WHICH STANDS FOR SAVE THE EARTH FROM A TO Z. WE'RE A WORLDWIDE UNIVERSITY VOLUNTEER GROUP FROM THE WORLD, MISSION SOCIETY, CHURCH OF GOD. WE WANNA PARTNER WITH YOU ALL TO PROTECT OUR AUSTIN ENVIRONMENT. OUR PLAN IS THAT EVERYONE CAN BE A GREEN CITIZEN. STARTING WITH THE YOUTH. EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DRIVING THE, THE, NOT HAVING ANY LOSS FOR BIODIVERSITY AND REDUCING OUR CONSUMPTION. WE ALL NEED TO CHANGE. EVERYONE HAS TO DO SOMETHING. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO ENJOY THE NATURE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT. THAT'S WHY US AS CARRIES OUT THE GREEN CHIP PROJECT TO NAVIGATE THE WAY TO FULFILL OUR DUTY AND TO MAKE A REAL CHANGE. AS JOHAN ROCKS FROM SAID, WE NEED TO BECOME STEWARDS OF THE EARTH TO MAKE A RADICAL TRANSFORMATION IN OUR LIFESTYLE. WE CONSUME SO MANY PRODUCTS, SO MANY GOODS EVERY DAY. AND TO BE HONEST IN THE FUTURE, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE CONSUMPTION, ENRICHES OUR LIVES. HOWEVER, THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT IS CLIMATE CHANGE. IF WE DON'T STOP CLIMATE CHANGE, IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTION, WE, AND THE NEXT GENERATION WILL FACE AN IRREVERSIBLE TRAGEDY. ACCORDING TO EUROPEAN GEOSCIENCES UNION, THE DEADLINE TO LIMIT WARMING TO 1.5 DEGREE CELSIUS HAS ALREADY PASSED. WE NEED TO TAKE RADICAL CLIMATE ACTION TODAY. YEAH. NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO DO SOMETHING. THAT'S WHY AS CARRIES OUT SUSTAINABLE ACTIONS TO REDUCE THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT CAUSED BY CONSUMPTION. AND WE RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT ECO-FRIENDLY PRACTICES. YEAH, FOR THIS, WE HAVE THE GREEN CAMPAIGN AND WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL FORUMS TO SPREAD AWARENESS OF THIS PROBLEM. FOR EXAMPLE, DURING WORLD WATER DAY, WE BRING TO LIGHT HOW MUCH WATER IT TAKES TO MAKE COMMON CONSUMER ITEMS AND PROVIDE [02:25:01] ACTIONS. HOW THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE. WE'VE HELD FORUMS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WITH THOUSANDS OF PARTICIPANTS TO SHOW HOW TO HAVE GREEN SHIP AND HOW TO BE A GREEN CITIZEN. FOR THIS. WE ALSO SET THE EXAMPLE AND GATHER STUDENTS, UNIVERSITY STUDENTS IN THE GLOBAL VILLAGE TO TAKE PART IN CLEANING UP LOCAL RIVERS AND COASTLINES, AND ALSO REMOVE INVASIVE AND POISONOUS PLANTS HELP SUSTAIN THE ENVIRONMENT BY PLANTING TREES AND SO FORTH FOR ALL OF THIS WORK THAT YOU SEE ABOVE. WE HAVE RECEIVED MULTIPLE AWARDS FROM THE UNITED NATIONS AND ALSO THE GREEN APPLE AWARD MULTIPLE TIMES FOR HAVING THE BEST ENVIRONMENTAL PRACTICES. UH, SO WE WANT TO EDUCATE AND LEAD PEOPLE TO TAKE TANGIBLE ACTIONS IN EVERYDAY CONSUMPTION AND TO PROTECT THE ECOSYSTEM. WE HAVE HAD 533 MEETINGS WITH 148 MOU SIGNED AS OF 2021. SO MAYOR ADLER, WE USED THE GLOBAL NETWORK ENCOMPASSING, VARIOUS NEEDS, VARIOUS AREAS, AUSTIN DRIVES POSITIVE CHANGE MAYOR ADLER. I REMEMBER SITTING IN THESE SEATS IN AUGUST 25TH DURING YOUR STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, OUR CHANGE, YOU SAID OUR CHANGE WAS NOT TO PERSUADE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN, THAT A BIG PLAN WAS NECESSARY. IT WAS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD THE SCALE OF THE PROBLEM AND RESTORE CONFIDENCE THAT WE COULD SOLVE IT ALL AS YOUNG ADULTS THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO US BECAUSE IF WE UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM, THEN WE CAN BE THE STEWARDS THAT SAVE THE EARTH FROM A TO Z. THANK YOU. WE WILL CHANGE OUR FUTURE WITH YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US TODAY. AND I HAVE THE, THE ABSOLUTE HONOR OF REPRESENTING THIS CITY AT THE C 40 CONFERENCE, UH, IN BUENOS COMING UP AS WELL AS THE COP 27. UH, AND I THINK FOR, FOR A LOT OF REASONS, AUSTIN'S GONNA BE, UH, RECEIVING SPECIAL RECOGNITION, UH, IN THOSE FORMS IN PART THE WORK THAT WE ALL DO IN THIS COMMUNITY. UM, CAUSE MEMBER TOVA, I'D LIKE TO BE PART OF, OF WHATEVER YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. UH, AND I INTEND TO BRING, UH, AN IF C WITH WHAT I THINK IT'S A REALLY INNOVATIVE IDEA TO, TO HELP US MAKE, UH, RECYCLING SOMETHING AND, AND, UH, THAT, THAT IS EVEN EASIER FOR, UH, ALL OF OUR, OUR HOMES TO DO AS THEY SEPARATE DIFFERENT, UH, UH, WASTE STREAMS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. AND WE WANT TO INVITE YOU, UH, OCTOBER AND OR NOVEMBER. WE'RE HAVING, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL FORUM AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, INVITE ALL OF YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN COME. SO PLEASE LET THE ENTIRE COUNCIL KNOW POSSIBLY WE COULD EXCHANGE SOME, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SEE YOU THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MALCOLM YATES. MY NAME IS MALCOLM YATES. I AM THE CHAIR OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE OLD TORF COMBINED CONTACT TEAM. I'M HERE TODAY TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE NEED FOR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. THIS IS THE PRESENTATION I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO COMPLETE ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. THE RIVERSIDE AREA IS PARK PLANNING, AREA 12. THIS PARK PLANNING AREA IS MAINLY DESIGNATED PARKLAND DEFICIENT. THE CITY RECENTLY REMOVED TWO LAKESHORE PARKS FROM THIS PARKLAND DEFICIENT AREA. WHEN THE PAR MAINTENANCE FACILITY ON LAKESHORE AND THE FORMER YOUTH HOST WERE BOTH GIVEN TO PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS, NOT ONLY IS THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA LACKING PARKS, BUT THERE IS ALSO NO COMMUNITY CENTER. THIS LACK OF A COMMUNITY CENTER IMPACTS SEVERAL SOCIAL SERVICES. ONE EXAMPLE IS THE RIVERSIDE TOGETHER IN THIS PROJECT, THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA IS CONSIDERED THE HIGHEST CRIME AREA IN THE CITY AND WAS CHOSEN FOR A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GRANT TO FUND THE RIVERSIDE TOGETHER IN THIS PROJECT, THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO REDUCE CRIME IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA THROUGH COMMUNITY BASED POLICING. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN HAMPERED BY THE LACK OF A PLACE TO MEET. THERE ARE NO PUBLIC BUILDINGS IN THE TARGET AREA WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN MEET MANY OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THAT OPERATE IN THIS AREA HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM FOR YEARS. THE COMMUNITY RELIED ON CHURCHES AS CIVIC MEETING PLACES. THE LAST CHURCH TO CLOSE IN THIS AREA WAS THE PARKER LANE METHODIST CHURCH IN 2019, MANY CIVIC AND SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS USED THIS CHURCH FOR THEIR OFFICES IN 2021. WHEN THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNED AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY FROM CIVIC TO MULTIFAMILY, THE IRAQ CONTACT TEAM ASKED COUNCIL THAT THIS CHURCH BE RENTED BY [02:30:01] THE CITY AS A COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT THE BUILDINGS WILL BE DEMOLISHED FOR APARTMENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE CITY COUNCIL A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. THIS MAP SHOWS THE INCOME DISTRIBUTION IN THE RIVERSIDE TOGETHERNESS PROJECT AREA, WHICH HAS THE LOWEST INCOME DISTRIBUTION IN THE CITY BETWEEN 80 TO 90% OF THE RESIDENTS OF EAST RIVERSIDE AREA RENT A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE POPULATION CONSISTS OF IMMIGRANTS. THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF LENDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL GIVE THE MOST ACCURATE SNAPSHOT OF THE AREA POPULATION. 78% HISPANIC, 63% ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE, 91% ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED THE IRAQ CONTACT TEAM VOTED TO ASK CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF THE MANY LOW INCOME RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THIS AREA AND DIRECT THAT THE FORMER YOUTH HOST BE USED AS A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. A COMMUNITY CENTER IS WHAT THIS AREA NEEDS AND BE, WOULD BE THE MOST BENEFICIAL USE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA. THANK YOU, TYLER. M TYLER MACK, GO AHEAD. HELLO, CITY COUNCIL, DISTRICT FIVE RESIDENT HERE. I'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN FOR OVER 10 YEARS NOW. AND ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION CAN SEE THE CITY IS HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION IN REGARDS TO QUALITY OF LIFE, PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIME. A KEY TURNING POINT WAS IN OCTOBER, 2019. WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL OVERTURNED THE PUBLIC CAMPING BAN A MOVE CHAMPIONED BY FORMER MEMBER, GREG ZA AND HIS INFINITE WISDOM. THANKFULLY THE CITIZEN CITIZENS RESPONDED BY PASSING PROP B HOMELESSNESS AND AUSTIN HAS BEEN INCORRECTLY LABELED AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. WHEN IN FACT IT'S A DRUG ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. WHAT EXACTLY IS AFFORDABLE TO SOMEONE WITH ZERO INCOME? ANYWAYS, THIS IS NOW A PROBLEM. THE CITY WILL BE SPENDING 79 MILLION ON NEXT YEAR. THANKS GREG APD STATES CATALYTIC CONVERTS THEFT HAS INCREASED 2000% CAR BREAK INS AND THEFTS OR COMMONPLACE AT MOUNT BONNELL TWIN FALLS AND ALL GREEN BELT ENTRANCES. EVEN AFTER THIS HAS BEEN A WELL KNOWN ISSUE FOR OVER A DECADE NOW AND SOUTHEAST AUSTIN AUTO THEFT IS UP 39% AUTO THEFTS ARE UP 85% DOWNTOWN. THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 61 OF THESE JUGGING ROBBERIES THIS YEAR WITH OVER OVER $500,000 STOLEN FROM AUSTIN RESIDENCE. THE AREA NEAR THE ARCH BUILDING ON SEVENTH STREET IS A 24 7 OPEN AIR DRUG MARKET. AND PEOPLE HAVE OVERDOSED BEEN STABBED SHOT AND KILLED IN THE STREET IN THE SURROUNDING ALLEYS. SOMETIMES EVEN A BROAD DAYLIGHT. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I EMAILED YOU ALL ABOUT OVER A YEAR AGO AND RECEIVED NO RESPONSE. THE ARCH BUILDING SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE MOVED AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN. THE SAFER SIXTH STREET INITIATIVE DOES NOT GO FAR ENOUGH, AND IT IS MORE REACTIVE THAN PROACTIVE, MORE CAMERAS AND LIGHTING DOES NOT PREVENT CRIME SO FAR. THIS YEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 54 MURDERS IN AUSTIN. IN 2019, THERE WERE 47, 20 20. THERE WERE 48 AND 2021. THE CITY HAD 89 MURDERS. ARE YOU NOTICING A TREND HERE? AND WHAT RATIONAL PERSON SEES ALL THIS HAPPENING AND THINKS, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE NEED LESS POLICE AND MORE SOCIAL WORKERS. IT SEEMS THE CITY CARES MORE ABOUT ADDING BIKE LANES TO THE STREETS INSTEAD OF KEEPING CRIMINALS OFF OF THEM WITH AN ATTITUDE OF WE'VE TRIED NOTHING. AND WE'RE ALL OUT OF IDEAS. DISTRICT ATTORNEY GARZA SEEMS TO APPROVE OF THE CATCHER AND LEASE APPROACH, WHICH HAS MADE OUR CITY LESS SAFE. THIS REIMAGINING OF PUBLIC SAFETY HAS BEEN A TOTAL FAILURE. THESE CRIMES ARE NOT HAPPENING IN WEST LAKE HILLS, A TERRY TOWN, BUT MANY TAKING PLACE ON THE EAST AND NORTH SIDE OF THE CITY AMONG LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS HURTING THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US SOMETIMES EVEN HAPPENING BETWEEN THE HOMELESS AS WE SAW WHAT THE MURDER AT AUDITORY SHORES LAST MONTH, THESE CRIMES, SORRY, THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER IS IMPORTANT. AND I BELIEVE THAT A VOTE FOR MR. KIRK WATSON IS A VOTE FOR MORE, THE SAME THOUGHT LEADERSHIP THAT GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. REMEMBER BACK IN 2008, WHEN CHRIS MATTHEWS MADE HIM LOOK FOOLISH ON HARDBALL, THAT WAS AWESOME. THE CITY'S RESIDENTS DESERVE BETTER. HEY, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. SORRY FOR THE CASUAL SHIRT I JUST BACK GOT FROM CABO, THE WAIT STAFF AT CAPTAIN TONY SAYS HELLO AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU ON JUST GIVING YOURSELVES A 40% RAISE. THANK YOU AND HAVE A BLESSED DAY. [02:35:03] NEXT WEEK. I'M GONNA CALL IS BILL SPRINGS. MR. SPRINGS HERE. UH, WHAT ABOUT SOPHIE TAYLOR? SOPHIE TAYLOR. I'M SORRY. OKAY. IT'S BRIAN ADAMS HERE. I THINK TAYLOR. YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M REALLY EAGER TO HELP YOU OUT. UH, MR. ALER, I CAN SENSE IN THIS CREW RIGHT HERE, YOUR TEAM I'M REALLY EAGER TO HELP YOU OUT. UM, I NOTICED, UM, ON THESE ON SEVENTH STREET, THESE TRAILERS HAVE THEIR LIGHTS WITH THE NAKED, EITHER LIGHTS, THEY'RE NOT LIGHTS, THEY'RE LASERS. I'VE SEEN THEM FILLING UP WITH GAS, UM, GAS TANKS, LIKE, UH, GAS TANKS AND WHAT THEY ARE IS LASERS. AND LISTEN TO ME CLEAR THEY'RE UM, YOU CAN SEE IT ON MY VIDEO. CAN YOU PUT IT UP? THIS IS HUGE, HUGE. AND IT'S, UH, FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE PEOPLE I KNOW MY TIME MIGHT HAVE TO BE EXTENDED, BUT PLEASE TAKE THE TIME IT'S YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. OKAY. MAYBE WE SHOULD KEEP TRACK WHILE THEY'RE BRINGING UP. WELL, ANYWAYS, UM, IF I CAN MEET WITH YOU, THESE ARE LASERS AND THEY'RE LASERS THAT ARE PUSHING OUT, YOU KNOW, ATTRACTING PARASITES AND WHAT THESE PARASITES ARE DOING. THEY'RE GETTING ON YOUR SKIN AND THEY'RE GETTING ON YOUR CLOTHES, YOUR SKIN, AND THEN THEY'RE MAKING WEIGHT INSIDE EATING YOUR, YOUR INSIDES, RIGHT. AND CAUSING THOSE ARE LASERS RIGHT THERE. SEE WITH THE NAKED EYE, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S JUST A, THAT'S A LIGHT, RIGHT? BUT THEIR LASERS FLASHING, THEY'RE FLASHING. YOU SEE RIGHT IN THAT SILVER WHERE THE SILVERS THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE FILLING UP. WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THIS THEY'RE, THIS IS A COLD WAY TO ELIMINATE POPULATION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITY AND ALL YOUR TAXPAYERS WITH MONEY. YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST PAY THEIR RENT IN PRISON. THEY'RE COMMITTING CRIMES. THEY'RE JUST GONNA GET OUT. SO WITH YOUR TAXPAYERS MONEY, YOU DEVELOPED A GOOD SOLUTION. YOU'RE LIKE, LET'S JUST TAKE OUR MONEY, GET 'EM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, HOUSING AND STUFF AND, AND, YOU KNOW, GET 'EM OUT THE STREET. BUT WHAT THESE LASERS ARE DOING, THIS IS A COLD WAY. ABBOTT IS DOING THIS, OR WHOEVER'S DOING IT. I KNOW WHAT AIN'T YOU, GREG OR STEVE, EXCUSE ME. UM, BUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THESE LASERS ARE GETTING, THEY'RE CAUSING PARASITES. THEY'RE GETTING YOUR SKIN IN YOUR SKIN AND, UM, THEY'RE CAUSING WORMS AND THEN THEY'RE FATAL. IT CAN BE FATAL. AND THEY'RE ALSO CONNECTED WITH THE METRO BUS. THEY ATTRACT SOUND. THERE'S A LOT OF FALSE. UM, THE CITY'S IN ON IT. I MEAN THE CITY'S IN ON IT. SO I DON'T KNOW. AND I KNOW ABBOTT'S PROBABLY SAYING, HEY, GREG OR MR. ADLER, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS. I KNOW YOU GUYS, AIN'T IN TOUCH WITH THIS. THANK YOU. BUT THIS IS HUGE. THANKS. THIS IS HUGE. AND I'M WILLING TO WORK. EXCUSE ME. I'M WILLING TO WORK. AND I, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US TODAY. THANK YOU WAY I CAN TALK TO YOU AND TRY, UH, WHY DON'T YOU CHECK WITH MY STAFF? WE'LL SEE. WE CAN WORK THAT OUT. MAYBE AT THE BREAK HERE, SPEAK WITH ALL RIGHT. LET'S GET SOME OTHER, WE HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS. I THINK HERE SIGNED UP. THANK YOU. UH, THE, YOU KNOW, THESE, UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE WHEN PEOPLE IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY COME AND SPEAK TO US. UM, UH, THESE SLOTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, WHEN 10 PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO SIGN UP AND SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES ARE PRETTY COVETED SPOTS. CUZ THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO DO THAT. WE HAVE A RULE THAT SAYS THAT, UH, PEOPLE, BECAUSE THERE'S LIMITED NUMBER OF SPOTS AND SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK, WE, WE LIMIT IT, UH, TO, UH, EVERYONE CAN, CAN SIGN UP, BUT THEY CAN ONLY SPEAK ONCE A MONTH, UH, WHEN, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY SIGN UP. UM, AND THAT GIVES OTHER PEOPLE A CHANCE TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO BE ONE OF THE 10 PEOPLE THAT HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK. I HAVE TWO MORE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP. I THINK MARK LEACH AND BENNETT, UH, LEACH. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK MA'AM OKAY. YOU'VE SIGNED UP. YOU, YOU WERE ALREADY SPEAKING. THIS IS UM, UM, UH, THIS IS SOPHIE TAYLOR. HANG ON ONE SECOND. IF YOU, SIR, BEHIND YOU SITTING AT THE TABLE IS THE PERSON I'M RECOGNIZING I DID, BUT I DIDN'T SEE HER. AND THEN I'VE CHANGED THAT. MS. TAYLOR, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. [02:40:01] HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. RIGHT? THAT BIG BUTTON BY THE BIG SNAKE. I'M SORRY. HI. MY NAME IS SHERRY TAYLOR. I AM A RESIDENT AT 38 0 1 BERKMAN DRIVE, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE CALLED WILDFLOWER TERRACE, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE IN THE MUELLER NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AREA. AND I HAPPEN TO BE A MEMBER OF THE MUELLER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I WOULD LIKE TO READ MINUTES FROM OUR MUELLER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AUGUST 5TH, AUGUST 3RD, SHELLY BALDWIN, A WILDFIRE TERRA RESIDENT IN SUITE 3 48, WHO IS A CO-CHAIR OF THE MUELLER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, CAME TO OUR MEETING ON THE 3RD OF AUGUST TO TALK ABOUT THE ANTI-RACISM TRAINING THAT IS BEING SPONSORED BY THE MUELLER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SPECIFICALLY FOR WHITE RESIDENTS TO HELP LEARN WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW. WELL, THE CLASS WOULD BE MEETING THE FOUR SUNDAYS BEGINNING IN SEPTEMBER. THE COST WAS $500, BUT SCHOLARSHIPS WERE AVAILABLE. IF YOU WERE INTERESTED, YOU WERE TO CALL SHELLY AT (512) 470-1700 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, CUZ SPACES ARE LIMITED. WELL, I HAPPENED TO BE AT THAT MEETING AND UH, SHE HAPPENED TO MENTION, SHE REALLY DOESN'T COME TO THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE OF THE COMMUNITY AND OUR APARTMENT. UM, SO IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I'D SEEN HER, BUT SHE MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT WAS NOT SAYING ANTI-RACISM. IT SAID RACISM, WORKSHOPS HAD BEEN CLOSED. AND SHE CAME TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THREE PEOPLE HAD DROPPED OUT AND THEY WANTED SOME VOLUNTEERS. SO MYSELF BEING A, UM, 22 YEAR VETERAN OF THE CLASSROOM, I I'M INTERESTED IN EDUCATION SHOW. MY HAND WENT UP AND I SAID, WELL, I WOULD BE INTERESTED. AND SHE SAID, NO, IT'S FOR WHITE PEOPLE ONLY. SO I WAS CONFUSED AND LOOKED TO THE LEFT. RIGHT? MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HEARD THAT. SO I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WAS INITIATED BECAUSE SOME CHILDREN WHO ARE FROM MIXED RACE, FAMILIES WERE BEING BULLIED ON THE BUS. AND SO THE MUELLER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATED CAN HAVE RACISM WORKSHOPS TO REEDUCATE THE PARENTS OF THOSE CHILDREN, WHICH I JUST THOUGHT THEY SHOULD JUST GET PUT OFF THE BUS. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE WAS, I AM A MEMBER OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PAID MY $5. THE BYLAWS SAY THAT ANYBODY'S A MEMBER SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO ANY WORKSHOP THEY WANT TO. AND I WAS DENIED TO GO. THEN THE WORKSHOP INFORMATION WAS TAKEN DOWN OFF THE WEBSITE SO I CAN, COULDN'T GET AN APPLICATION, BUT I ALSO AM RUNNING FOR US HOUSE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES. AND WHEN I WENT AROUND TO GET SIGNATURES IN MY BUILDING, I GOT ONE FROM SHELLEY BALDWIN AND I ASKED HER, COULD I GET AN APPLICATION FOR THAT RACISM WORKSHOPS? AND SHE SAYS, NO, BECAUSE IT'S FOR WHITE PEOPLE ONLY. SO WHEN I GET TO GO TO UNITED STATES, CONGRESS, IF I GET ELECTED, EVEN THOUGH I'M RUNNING AGAINST LLOYD DOGGETT, BUT I TOLD PEOPLE HE'S RUNNING AGAINST ME. BUT ANYWAY, I WANT TO KNOW IF, IF THAT'S FOR WHITE PEOPLE ONLY CUZ THE CONGRESS, I THOUGHT SAID WE, THE PEOPLE, SO WE ARE HAVING A RECEPTION TOMORROW, FRIDAY, THE ACC SAYS WE ARE 55 AND OVER AND MANY DISABLED LIKE MYSELF. I CAN'T GET OUT TO COMING TO THESE MEETINGS. AND SOME PEOPLE CAN'T COME BECAUSE OF THE HEAT. SO I GAVE YOU COPIES OF OUR, OUR INVITATION TO THE MARRIAGE OF JULIO'S CORN TORTILLAS AND AMY'S ENCHILADAS. AND THIS IS A MARRIAGE YOU SHOULD COME AND BRING UP. IT'S A POTLUCK, BUT WE WANT THE THANK YOU CANDIDATES TO PLEASE COME OUT AND TALK TO US AT 38 0 1 BERKMAN DRIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DID I CALL BILL SPRINGS? IS HE HERE? OKAY. I THOUGHT I HAD CALLED, UH, MARK LEACH AND BENNETT LEACH. UH, DID YOU, DID YOU BOTH GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK LAST WEEK, SIGNED UP TO, TO SPEAK? UH, IT'S A DIFFERENT PERSON. WHAT I HAVEN'T SPOKEN. OKAY. MY NAME'S MARK LEACH. ALL RIGHT, MR. LEACH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THEY HAD A VIDEO OF THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR AND THE MAYOR FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME. UH, I, I REPRESENT BLUFF SPRINGS, RV AND BOAT STORAGE. UH, IN ORDER TO BUILD OUR STORAGE LOT, WE HAD TO JUMP TO A LOT OF HOOPS AND WE HAD TO, UH, BUILD TWO RETENTION PONDS BEFORE WE COULD EVEN START CONSTRUCTION. THE SPRING VILLA APARTMENTS NEXT DOOR TO US ARE FLOOD US WITH MUD AND WATER AND OTHER DEBRIS. THEY HAVE A 36 INCH PIPE AND THREE 18 INCH PIPES RIGHT ON OUR, UH, PROPERTY LINE AND THIS AND THIS TRASH AND EVERYTHING. THIS IS PROPERTY BEHIND US THAT WE [02:45:01] HAVE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. WE HIRE A LAWYER, WE'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANY TIMES. UM, WE JUST NEED SOME HELP FROM SOMEBODY IN THE COUNCIL, IN THE MAYOR TO HOLD THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THE RULES AND THE ENGINEERING REGULATIONS THEY'RE OPERATING UNDER A REVISION. THEY DO NOT HAVE APPROVED ENGINEER PLANS. UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE CANNOT STOP THEM BECAUSE WE CANNOT GET THE CITY OR ANYBODY IN THE PERMIT DEPARTMENT TO STOP THEM FROM CONSTRUCTION TO FIX THE PROBLEM. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THAT THEY FIX THE PROBLEM. THEY'VE BEEN UNDER REVISION FOR THE PAST 16 MONTHS AND STILL OPERATING. UM, WE JUST CANNOT GET ANY HELP FROM THE CITY OR THE COUNCIL. UM, THIS IS A CONTINUED PROBLEM. IT'S GONNA POLLUTE THE, UH, BOGGY CREEK GREEN BELT AREA. I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE, OUT, UH, IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY WHERE THESE BIG COMPLEXES AND PARKING LOTS POLLUTE THESE BEAUTIFUL STREAMS AND CREEKS. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS EVENTUALLY GONNA DO. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. WE'VE TALKED TO THOSE PEOPLE AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE CITY CARES. UH, THEY ABSOLUTELY GIVE THE BIG CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, A PASS, WHERE THEY SCRUTINIZE THE SMALL BUSINESS FAMILY, PEOPLE THAT HAVE SMALL PROJECTS. AND WE JUST WOULD LIKE TO GET SOMEONE'S ATTENTION. IT'S BLUFF SPRINGS, RV AND BOAT STORAGE AND DOWN THE PLACE. HANG ON A SECOND. HE'S THE SPEAKER. I'LL COME DOWN AT THE BREAK AND TALK TO YOU. GO AHEAD. BUT WE HAVE, UH, SPENT A LOT OF MONEY WITH AN ATTORNEY AND WE HAVE ENGINEERS THAT ARE, UH, WERE PAYING TO HELP US ALSO. AND THEY STOPPED SENDING US THE REVISION PLANS BECAUSE WE KEPT FINDING SO MANY MISTAKES, BUT, UH, THEY DIDN'T EVEN BUILD A RETENTION PALM BEFORE THEY BUILT THE, UH, FOUNDATIONS FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THEY BUILT IT UP 16 FEET WITH ROAD BASIN AND GRAVEL AND WERE WAY BELOW 'EM. AND DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, ALL THAT WAS COMING ON OUR, ON OUR PARKING LOT AT ONE TIME. AND THEY PUT IN A BIG PIPE TO DIVERT IT TO OUR BACK TWO AND A HALF ACRES. BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IF Y'ALL COULD HELP US. OKAY. I'LL COME DOWN AT THE BREAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAD, UH, ON PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS COLLEAGUES. I, THERE WERE THREE PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES WERE CALLED TO TESTIFY EARLIER AND, AND WE MISSED THEM. THREE PEOPLE. IF THE CLERK HAD CALLED THOSE THREE PEOPLE, I THINK, UM, UH, QUINCY IS ONE, UH, PAUL QUINCY AND BRIAN REGISTER ARE THOSE OTHER TWO HERE. OKAY. LET'S CALL THOSE THREE PEOPLE. WHY DON'T YOU COME ON DOWN STEP TO THE PODIUM? YOU WOULD, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME IS PAUL QUINCY, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FOUR, THE FIGHT AND FOURTH REPRESENTED BY OUR HERO. CHIVE LIKE MANY OF YOU, I AM A PROUD MEMBER OF AFME LOCAL 16, 24. MOST OF YOU ARE MY UNION BROTHERS AND SISTERS. WE'RE HERE TO ASK YOU TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY BY VOTING FOR MEANINGFUL POLICE OVERSIGHT, WHICH WILL NEVER HAPPEN. IF APD IS ALLOWED TO BARGAIN AWAY THEIR LIABILITY AT ELECTION TIME, MOST OF YOU COME TO OUR, ASK ME, VOTE, VOTE FOR OUR SUPPORT. AND ALMOST ALL OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED IT. VOTE PACK IS THE ONE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE AS WORKERS TO ASK YOU WHERE YOU STAND ON OUR VALUES. WE TAKE YOUR ANSWERS AND COMMITMENTS YOU MAKE SERIOUSLY. AND WE DO NOT FORGET THEM AT OUR MEETING LESS A MONTH AGO. COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS. I ASK YOU DIRECTLY IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY YOU WOULD VOTE THE APO A INTO LAW, YOU BOTH COMMITTED TO VOTE TO PASS IT INTO LAW ON CITY COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN. I ENJOYED CHATTING WITH YOU THERE AS WELL. AND I WAS GRATEFUL TO HEAR YOUR SUPPORT FOR VOTING IT INTO LAW, AS WELL AS YOUR OPTIMISM ABOUT IT. PASSING THROUGH COUNCIL, OTHERS HAVE OTHERS OF YOU HAVE PREPARED BEFORE US IN THE PAST AND VIGOROUSLY CHAMPIONED POLICE OVERSIGHT. WE DON'T CONSIDER YOUR STATEMENTS AT VOTE PACK AS MERE CAMPAIGN PROMISES. THESE ARE COMMITMENTS YOU MAKE TO YOUR UNION BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO BRING THE VALUES WE SHARE WITH YOU TO PUBLIC OFFICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. DUN LAB. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR, I ACKNOWLEDGE YOU. UH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. UH, THE AUSTIN AREA, URBAN LEAGUE OPERATES IN DISTRICT ONE OR ARREST IN DISTRICT ONE. SO ACKNOWLEDGING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, AND THE STATE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK TO YOU IN OPPOSITION TO, UH, THE LICENSE PLACE READER AND IN SUPPORT OF THE, UM, POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT. UH, AND I WANT TO, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF UNDERSTANDING THE COMMUNITY'S COMMITMENT TO FOLLOWING PROCESSES AND UNDERSTANDING [02:50:01] THAT THIS IS A STEP ALONG THE WAY TO ENSURING THAT WE RETHINK POLICE OVERSIGHT AND HAVE A COMMUNITY ASPECT, UH, TO POLICE OVERSIGHT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OPO, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE LICENSE PLACE READERS AND HOW THAT DATA COULD BE UTILIZED FOR RACIAL PRO PROFILING, OTHER NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE COMMUNITY, THIS OVERSIGHT DONE BY THE COMMUNITY CAN HELP MANAGE AND MAINTAIN EFFICACY IN HOW THE POLICE USES THAT DATA. SO AGAIN, I WANT TO TAKE THE POSITION OF PARTNER WITH MAYOR ADLER IF THIS FAILS AND IT HAS TO GO TO THE BALLOT. UH, BUT I THINK WE NEED A YES, VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THE POLICE ENFORCEMENT ACT, POLICE OVERSIGHT ENFORCEMENT AT THANK YOU. OUR LAST SPEAKER, SIR. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HERE FOR MUCH THE SAME PURPOSE, UM, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE LICENSE PLATE READERS. I THINK THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE, UH, PROBLEMATIC AT BEST THE NUMBER OF FALSE POSITIVES AND MISTAKEN READINGS, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, THE POLICE ARE THE OVERWHELMINGLY MOST POWERFUL AND THEREFORE DANGEROUS FORCE IN OUR SOCIETY. AND WE SHOULD BE GIVING THEM AS FEW TOOLS AS POSSIBLE TO DO THEIR JOBS. WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOME, BUT UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR, TO, FOR US TO GIVE THEM THESE ORWELLIAN CONTROLS OVER US, WE SHOULD NOT DO SO. THIS IS A VERY BIZARRE AND EXTREME STEP TOWARD A SURVEILLANCE STATE WHEN IT COMES TO OVERSIGHT. IF IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD IDEA IN A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION IN FIVE YEARS, IT IS A GOOD IDEA. NOW, IF IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD IDEA ON THE BALLOT IN A FEW MONTHS IS A GOOD IDEA. NOW WE NEED THIS TO BE PASSED IMMEDIATELY. UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN MINNEAPOLIS, A MAN WAS MURDERED BY UNACCOUNTABLE POLICE THAT LED TO PROTESTS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THOSE PROTESTS HERE IN AUSTIN GOT RATHER NASTY. NOW WHAT IF UNACCOUNTABLE POLICE HERE WERE TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR? THOSE PROTESTS WOULD BE A GOOD DEAL. NASTIER. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE RELIABLE OVERSIGHT IN PLACE, PLEASE, FOR THE SAKE OF THE CITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY, PLEASE VOTE FOR OVERSIGHT AND AGAINST THESE LICENSE PLATE READERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES. IT IS, UH, A LITTLE AFTER ONE. UH, AND IT'S SECOND HERE. WE'RE GONNA TAKE, UH, RECESS COME BACK. UM, WE HAVE THE, UH, AUSTIN, UH, SYMPHONIC BAND, UH, STILL TO PLAY FOR US. SO, UH, URGE, UH, EVERYONE TO, TO, TO STAY FOR THAT. IF THEY'RE ABLE, IT'S ONE O'CLOCK NOW I'M GONNA SUGGEST WE COME BACK AT A QUARTER TO TWO, UH, AT 1 45. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN BLOW THROUGH REAL QUICKLY, UH, ITEM 62, WHICH IS THE EMINENT DOMAIN MATTER 63, WHICH IS A H C ITEM NUMBER 64, THE PRIVATE ACTIVITY BOND. I'M SAYING THOSE THINGS, CUZ I ANTICIPATE NO DEBATE OR DISCUSSION, UH, ON THOSE THINGS. UM, WE CAN DO 'EM RIGHT NOW. WE PUSH BACK OUR TIME A LITTLE BIT. I, YOU KNOW, THE BAND'S BEEN WAITING HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE, SO I WANNA MOVE REALLY FAST, BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO 'EM REALLY FAST. WE'RE GONNA CALL UP. DO WE HAVE THE PEOPLE HERE TO DO THAT? I, I KNOW I'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH. ARE THE PEOPLE HERE, STEPHANIE NEED TO DO THAT. OKAY. SO LET'S TRY AND DO IT REAL FAST. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA RECESS THE, UH, AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE AT, UH, 1 0 4. UH, I'M GONNA CONVENE [Austin Housing and Finance Corporation Meeting] AT 1 0 4, UH, HERE ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2022, THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION MEETING, UH, WE'RE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UH, THE, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS, UH, PRESENT. HOW MANY ITEMS DO WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA TODAY? ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, MANDY D MAYO, AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. THIS IS A COMPANION PIECE TO ITEM 23 THAT YOU JUST PASSED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR CITY COUNCIL. AND THIS IS AUTHORIZING US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EXECUTION OF OUR SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND HFC FOR, UM, NEARLY 35 MILLION TO OPERATE OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS, THEIR MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. NUMBER ONE, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL MAKES A MOTION. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, SECOND SAT, ANY DISCUSSION, ACTUALLY DIRECTOR POOL AND DIRECTOR MADISON. OUR DISCUSSION. LET'S TAKE A VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED UNANIMOUS AMONG THE DIRECTORS EXCEPT FOR DIRECTOR, UH, KELLY, WHO IS VOTING. NO. SO AND PO IS ABSENT. SO ON A NINE TO ONE TO ONE VOTE THAT PASSES. THANK YOU. IT'S ALL BUSINESS. WE'RE GOING TOJO. THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION MEETING HERE AT, UH, 1 0 6 GONNA RECONVENE THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 1 0 6 CONTINUES TO BE SEPTEMBER, UH, 15TH. THE, [62. Approve a resolution authorizing the filing of eminent domain proceedings and payment to acquire the property interest needed for the William Cannon Drive Corridor Project for the public use of reducing delay, improving the effectiveness of transit, and creating continuous Americans with Disabilities Act-compliant sidewalks, bicycle facilities, and either separate paths or a shared-use path which will enhance safety for pedestrians and cyclists along the entire length of the project, the acquisition of a Sidewalk, Trail and Recreational Easement, comprising approximately 0.0335 of an acre of land (in two parts) totaling approximately 1,458 square feet and a Temporary Construction Easement of approximately 0.0149 of an acre of land or approximately 648 square feet, being out of and a portion of the Thomas Anderson Survey, Abstract No. 2, in the City of Austin, Travis County, Texas, being a portion of Lot 1, Block 1, High Mesa Plaza, Section 1, a subdivision recorded in Volume 92, Page 347 of the Plat Records of Travis County, Texas currently appraised at $31,858 and subject to an increase in value based on updated appraisals or a Special Commissioner’s award. The owner of the property is ATX Office Properties, LLC. This property is located at 6211 W. William Cannon Drive, Austin, Texas 78749. The general route of the project is along William Cannon Drive between Southwest Parkway to McKinney Falls Parkway. ] UH, EMINENT DOMAIN, UH, ITEM IS, UH, UH, ITEM NUMBER 62 WITH RESPECT TO ITEM NUMBER 62 BEING A NON-CONSENT CONDEMNATION ITEM. IS THERE A MOTION TO THE EFFECT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AUSTIN AUTHORIZES THE USE OF THE POWER OF EM DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY SET FORTH AND DESCRIBED THE AGENDA FOR THE CURRENT MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC USES [02:55:01] DESCRIBED THEREIN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, TOBO MAKES THAT MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER, ELLIS SECONDS AT HAND DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED. I SEE EVERYONE VOTING IN FAVOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, ER, OFF THE, UH, UH, DAIS. I [64. Conduct a public hearing related to an application by Libertad Austin at Gardner, LP, or an affiliated entity, for housing tax credits for a multi-family development to be financed through the private activity bond program and to be known as Libertad Austin, located at or near 900 Gardner Road, Austin, Texas 78721, within the City, and consider a resolution related to the proposed development, the application, and the allocation of housing tax credits and private activity bonds.] THINK THE LAST ITEM THAT WE CAN, UH, HANDLE REALLY QUICKLY HERE MIGHT BE, UM, ITEM NUMBER 64, WHICH IS THE PRIVATE ACTIVITY BOND. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 64 COUNCIL MEMBER POOL MAKES A MOTION COUNTS. MEMBER HARPER, MADISON. SECOND TO DISCUSSION'S TAKE A VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR 64, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED. I'M SHOWING EVERYONE BEING IN FAVOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ENTER OFF THE DANCE THAT PASSES ALL RIGHT HERE AT 1 0 7. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECESS. UH, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET HERE AT, UH, 1 45. MAYBE THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS WE CAN KNOCK OUT BEFORE WE TAKE SPEAKERS AT TWO. UH, BUT THAT'S THE, THE GOAL TO DO THAT WHILE THOSE SPEAKERS ARE SPEAKING WHERE WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT THE AGENDA FOR THE REST OF THE DAY AND SEE IF WE CAN LAY OUT, UH, A WAY FOR US TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS. I AM, UH, INCLINED TO TAKE THE THINGS THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT WE'RE POSTPONED AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THOSE QUICKLY. UH, THOSE WOULD BE, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION WHEN WE COME BACK, UH, THE CASTLEMAN BOWL AND THE PARKING GARAGE ISSUE SINCE WE HAD THOSE LAST WEEK TRYING TO MOVE THEM FORWARD. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL. I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE ALL OF OUR WORK TODAY AND NOT HAVE TO, UM, HAVE A MEETING ON SATURDAY OR MONDAY MAYOR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN DO DO AT THIS AT THIS POINT. DO YOU HAVE A, A THOUGHT ON WHEN WE WOULD BE TAKING UP? UM, I THINK IT'S NUMBER 86 RELATED TO THE OPO. I JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT ARE CURIOUS ABOUT WHEN WE MIGHT BE TAKING DON'T KNOW, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT THE WHOLE AGENDA AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF GETTING THROUGH AS MUCH OF THE STUFF AS WE CAN TODAY. OKAY. BUT, BUT, BUT WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH EVERYBODY. UH, WE'LL PROBABLY BE FINALIZING THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE, THE, THE SPEAKERS ARE TOO, AS WE TALK. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. WE'LL GET THAT. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE 'EM AN IDEA. NO, SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT THEN, UH, WE ARE IN RECESS TILL, UH, UH, QUARTER TILL THANK YOU TO PUTTING [Live Music: Austin Symphonic Band] OUR MUSICIANS ON STAGE AT CARNEGIE HALL. IT'S KIND OF LIKE OUR OWN CARNEGIE HALL, UH, BUT IT'S STILL REAL IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, UH, MUSIC IS, IS REALLY THE, THE, THE CENTER TO SO MUCH OF THE CULTURE, UH, THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. IT'S ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WHY, WHEN I PASSED THROUGH THIS CITY IN THE LATE SEVENTIES, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T LEAN. UH, AND IT'S, IT'S A PART OF WHO WE ARE. WE'RE THE ONLY CITY COUNCIL I KNOW OF THAT AT EVERY MEETING BRINGS IN LIVE MUSIC INTO THIS PLACE SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF CAPTURE THAT SOUND AND THAT FEEL AND KIND OF PUSH IT INTO OUR WALLS. SO THAT ON DAYS, MAYBE EVEN LIKE TODAY, WHEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE PERHAPS GOING REALLY LATE, I CAN CLOSE MY EYES FOR JUST A SECOND AND BRING BACK THE MUSIC AND, AND, AND, AND KEEP GOING. UM, BUT, UH, TODAY, UH, WE HAVE THE, UM, UH, AUSTIN, UH, UH, SYMPHONIC, UH, BAND, UH, WITH US. UH, AND, AND WE JUST SO APPRECIATE WHEN OUR CITY MUSICIANS COMMENT AND, AND, AND GIVE US THIS GIFT. ALTHOUGH WE PAY FOR MUSIC HERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PAYING MUSICIANS IN THIS CITY WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY HAVE 'EM PLAY. ALL RIGHT. SO PLEASE. AND [03:02:18] THAT WAS GREAT. THANK YOU. SO, SO DO YOU ALL PLAY IN THE AUSTIN SYMPHONY AS WELL? THE, THE AUSTIN SYMPHONIC BAND, IT'S A 90, UH, PLUS MEMBER CONCERT BAND. UH, THAT'S BEEN, UH, TOGETHER SINCE 1981. AND, UH, WE HAVE OUR FIRST CONCERT OF THE, UH, THIS UPCOMING SEASON, THIS SUNDAY, IT'S SILVER PARK AT THE HILLSIDE THEATER AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. SO, OKAY. VERY EXCITED TO MAKE MUSIC THIS YEAR. IS THERE LIKE A, A, A WEBSITE OR A SOCIAL MEDIA CONNECTION IF PEOPLE WANT TO FOLLOW YOU OR, OR THEY CAN DO THAT? UM, AUSTIN SYMPHONIC BAND.ORG. AND, UH, RIGHT NOW ALL THE INFORMATION IS UP THERE ABOUT OUR CONCERT SEASON FOR THE 2020 2, 23 SEASON WITH THREE INDOOR CONCERTS IN THE AUSTIN AREA. AND THEN, UM, FOUR OUTDOOR CONCERTS PLANS. SO THIS FIRST ONE IS COMING FROM Z PARK. WE HAVE A MOTHER'S DAY CONCERT, FATHER'S DAY CONCERT, UH, JULY 4TH CONCERT, ALL THOSE OUTDOOR CONCERTS ARE FREE AND OPEN TO THE PARK. THAT'S GREAT. HOW MANY MEMBERS, HOW MANY PIECES I OVER 90 MEMBERS? OH, WOW. THAT COME FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, WHO PEOPLE ARE MUSIC TEACHERS AND TEACH PUBLIC LESSONS AND DOCTORS AND ENGINEERS, AND JUST WONDERFUL COMMUNITY MEMBERS. IT'S A, IT'S A WONDERFUL, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT LOVES TO GIVE BACK, UH, TO AUSTIN. SO, SO IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO KNOW WHERE TO GO, TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU PLAY AND TO BE IN ZER. PEOPLE WANTED TO PARTICIPATE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CONSIDER DOING? YES, MOST CERTAINLY WE HAVE, UH, INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE ABOUT HOW TO JOIN AS A MEMBER. WE WELCOME GUESTS. UH, THEY ARE WELCOME TO COME AND, AND SIT IN A REHEARSAL. AND, UH, AND WE, WE HAVE MANY PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES. SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ALWAYS LOOKING TO HELP SWELL OUR RANKS. WELL, GREAT. A GIFT TO THE CITY. I HAVE A PROCLAMATION, UH, BE IT KNOWN THAT WHEREAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN, TEXAS IS BLESSED WITH MANY CREATIVE MUSICIANS WHOSE TALENT EXTENDS TO VIRTUALLY EVERY MUSICAL GENRE. AND WHEREAS OUR MUSIC SCENE THRIVES BECAUSE AUSTIN AUDIENCES SUPPORT GOOD MUSIC PRODUCED BY LEGENDS, OUR LOCAL FAVORITES AND NEWCOMERS ALIKE. AND WHEREAS WE ARE PLEASED TO SHOWCASE AND SUPPORT OUR LOCAL ARTISTS. NOW, THEREFORE I, STEVE ADLER, MAYOR OF THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 15TH OF THE YEAR, 2022 AS AUSTIN SOPHONIC BAND DAY IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. CONGRATULATIONS. PLEASE LET THE OTHERS KNOW. THANK YOU. PROCEED. [03:05:02] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, I'M GONNA RECONVENE THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2022. WE CONTINUE TO BE IN THE, UH, AUSTIN, UH, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. UH, EVERYBODY IS, UH, UH, WITH US, UH, WHO ARE WE MISSING? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OF FUTU IS NOT WITH US YET. I ASSUME WE'LL BE JOINING US SHORTLY, BUT WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, UH, COLLEAGUES. UH, I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE START WITH THE SPEAKERS ON, UH, ZONING, UH, THAT WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE, UH, SPEAKERS ON ZONING, WE, UH, TRY TO HANDLE THE CONSENT, UH, AGENDA, UH, AFTER WE'VE HANDLED THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, WE THEN GO TO SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE POSTPONED FROM LAST WEEK, STARTING WITH, UH, 65 AND 85, WHICH ARE THE N C D ISSUE. UH, THE STATESMAN POD ITEMS, 82 AND 83, WHICH I THINK IS JUST A POSTPONEMENT. UM, SO THAT'LL ALL MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY ITEMS THEN PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHICH IS 53 59, 66 AND 67. AND THEN THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE 54 AND THE CONVENTION CENTER GARAGE FEES, 55, WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THOSE, LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE. UM, UM, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, DINNER, WHAT IS STILL LEFT FOR US TO HANDLE AT THAT POINT WILL BE THE, UH, ITEM 26, THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IT 29 AND 30, WHICH ARE ILA, IS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER. TOBO ITEM NUMBER 90, WHICH IS THE, UH, REGULATING PLAN, UH, INFORMATION OR DATA. UM, WE ALSO, UH, HAVE THE, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT AND THE LICENSE PLATE READERS AND PROCLAMATIONS. UM, SO, BUT LET'S, LET'S GET THROUGH THIS FIRST, UH, FOCUSED UP AND SEE WHAT TIME IT IS AND WHERE WE ARE. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE US THROUGH, UM, UH, THE POSTPONED ITEMS? SURE. MAYOR JERRY RESTAURANT HOUSING PLAN DEPARTMENT, UM, THE ITEMS I'M GONNA BE OFFERING UP FOR POSTPONEMENT TODAY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 71 POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT OCTOBER 13TH, ITEM NUMBER 72 POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO OCTOBER 22ND, ITEM NUMBER 74 INDEFINITE POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT ITEM 75 POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE STAFF TO OCTOBER 13TH, ITEM 76 POSTPONE REQUEST BY STAFF OCTOBER 27TH. UM, AS YOU SAID, MAYOR THE, UH, 82 AND 83, THE TWO STATESMAN ITEMS WILL BE A POSTPONEMENT TO SEPTEMBER 29TH, 84. WE'LL HAVE A POSTPONING REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN TO SEPTEMBER 29TH. AND THOSE ARE THE ITEMS I'LL BE OFFERING FOR POSTPONEMENT. AND WE DO THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE, UH, SPEAKERS. YES, I, TIM, UM, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE GONNA BE ABSENT ON THE 29TH. UM, SO I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN POSTPONE THE STATESMAN PUT TO THE 13TH. I THINK STUFF THE 13TH OF OCTOBER, WILL PEOPLE BE THERE? UM, KA MEMBER, HAR MEDICINE. YOU'RE ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE THAT I AM, AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE BODY MOVING FORWARD. IT'S SECOND READING. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH YOU ALL MOVING FORWARD. I'LL BE HERE FOR THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. KA HARBOR, UH, APPOINT THAT SAID THE SAME THING AT OUR WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY. WE CAN CERTAINLY NOT SURE WE'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH MUCH. WE CAN CERTAINLY JUST LET'S DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE GET TO VOTING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. THAT'S OUR KITCHEN. I'M I'M SORRY, BUT I'M BACKTRACKING JUST A LITTLE BIT. I WAS HOPING WE COULD TAKE UP THE LPR ISSUE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AFTER WE TAKE UP THOSE OTHER ONES FROM LAST WEEK, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN PUSHED SO MANY TIMES, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO GET IT DONE. I HEAR THAT. I'M PROBABLY GONNA DO IT IN THE ORDER THAT, THAT I HAVE THEM READ HERE. UH, BUT LET'S NOT DO THAT YET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AT THAT PLACE YET. OKAY. [Public Comments (Part 3 of 3)] LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET TO THE SPEAKERS THAT WE, UH, WE'VE CALLED UP. OKAY. FIRST SPEAKER IS DANIEL NELSON SPEAKING ON ITEM 65, BE ON EAST 13TH STREET FOR 20 YEARS, SINCE 2002. UM, OUR PROPERTY SHARES AN ALLEY WITH PROPERTIES ON EAST 12TH STREET. I ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD, WHICH ARE THE RESULT OF YEARS OF CONSULTATION WITH NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS. I ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT REGARDING COCKTAIL LOUNGES AND MUSIC VENUES ON EAST 12TH STREET. UM, I ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE AGAINST [03:10:01] THIS AMENDMENT AND ANY OTHER PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT WOULD LIKEWISE WEAKEN THE PROTEST RIGHTS AND PROPERTY RIGHTS OF AFFECTED RESIDENTS. I BELIEVE THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD MOSTLY BENEFIT THE PORTFOLIO OF EUREKA HOLDINGS TO THE DETRIMENT OF AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO SPEAK REBECCA LEONARD SPEAKING ON 65 AND 85. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M REBECCA LEONARD OWNER OF LIONHEART TO PLANNING LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN DESIGN FIRM IN EAST AUSTIN. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH EUREKA ON A VISION FOR, UH, THEIR LAND HOLDINGS, UH, ALONG EAST 12, I SUPPORT ITEMS NUMBER 65 AND 85, AND BELIEVE THAT THE CHANGES TO THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN AND THE NCC D ZONING ALIGNS BOTH WITH THE VISION SET FORTH IN THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN, AS WELL AS DELIVERS ON THE SPIRIT OF THE SIX SQUARE, UH, AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL DISTRICT. THANK YOU, DAVID ESP. ESPOSA ON 65 AND 85. HELLO. MY NAME IS DAVID ESPINOZA. I HAVE LIVED NINE YEARS IN EAST EXHAUSTING, FIVE YEARS AT EAST 12TH STREET, LIKE TO LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE AGAINST HARPER MEDICINE PROPOSAL OF TURNING EAST INTO A BAR DISTRICT. LIKE WHAT, UH, DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER ARGUES. I THINK THIS WILL BE TREMENDOUS BELOW TO THE ECONOMIC HARDSHIP AND, UH, PEOPLE IN ECONOMIC HARDSHIP AND WILL DISPLACE MANY AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISPANIC FAMILIES ALREADY IN THIS AREA IN FAVOR HOME IN FAVOR OF FINANCIAL HOLDINGS THAT JUST WANT TO INCREASE THE REVENUE OF THEIR INVESTMENTS AND WHEREVER. UM, THIS IS NOT FAVORING, UH, IS AUSTIN OR CULTURE AS SAID BEFORE, THIS IS JUST MAKING A PLAYGROUND FOR RICH, SOME PEOPLE TO PART IN THIS AREA, CONVERTING EAST AUSTIN IN NOTHING, BUT IT IS RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST CONVERTING IT INTO ANYWHERE AMERICA. SO I ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THE POWER IS ON YOU TO DEFEND THE PEOPLE OR TO DEFEND FINANCIAL INTEREST. WE DECIDE TO HAVE A HOME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO CONVERT IT OVERNIGHT TO BARS. THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO SPEAK PATRICK H ON 65 AND 85, GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS PATRICK H I'M AN EAST 12TH STREET HOMEOWNER WITHIN THE URBAN RURAL PLAN IN EAST 12TH STREET NCCD. AND I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF KILLING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DISTRICT ONE'S AMENDMENT TO PERMIT EAST 12TH STREET NCCD TO ESTABLISH AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WITHOUT SEEKING IN A ZONING CHANGE COMPARED TO THE ISSUES IN THE ACU RULING WITH CODE NEXT, A CUP IS PERMANENT. THERE ARE NO ZONING PROTEST RIGHTS TO GET AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY SEEKING A CUP. THE D ONE OFFICE IS USING AN NCCD TO ROB PEOPLE OF THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS AND REMOVE THE ZONING REGULATIONS ON A STREET THAT CURRENTLY REQUIRES CS ONE FOR BARS, YOU CAN AVOID ALTERING PLANNING EFFORTS AND TOOLS AND ROBBING THESE ALL TONIGHT'S OF THEIR RIGHTS BY HONORING OUR VALID PETITION AND VOTING. NO ON ALLOWING MORE BARS. HE SAYS, IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. CALO ON 73, LAURA, LAURA DRAKE ON ITEM 73. HI, UM, MY NAME'S LAURA DRAKE AND I'VE LIVED, UM, IN AUSTIN ALL MY LIFE AND IN SOUTH AUSTIN SPECIFICALLY FOR FOUR YEARS. UM, I WANTED TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER, UM, VOTING FOR ITEM 73 REGARDING, UM, FOXY ROXY, THE BUSINESS LOCATED AT 2103 WEST SLAUGHTER LANE. I'VE BEEN A CUSTOMER THERE FOR OVER A YEAR. UH, I HAVE A DOG THAT SEP THAT SUFFERS FROM SE SEPARATION ANXIETY, AND HE CAN'T BE LEFT ALONE. AND SO I USE THE SERVICES AT FOXY ROXY, UM, TO LEAVE MY DOG WITH THEM WHILE I GO TO WORK AND WITHOUT THEIR SERVICE, I WOULD HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME, UM, FINDING SOME PLACE FOR HIM TO GO. THERE'S ANOTHER DOG DAYCARE NEARBY, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ON A WAIT LIST FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN WITH FOXY ROXY. SO I JUST ASK THAT WHEN YOU'RE DECIDING ON ZONING, PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE NEEDS OF WORKERS LIKE ME, WHO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AND RELY ON THE SERVICES OF FOXY R FOR THEIR LIVELIHOOD. [03:15:01] THANK YOU, CACHE CLASS. HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, PLEASE PROCEED. HELLO? OKAY. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS KASHA. UM, I'VE BEEN A CUSTOMER AT FOXY FOR, I BELIEVE SINCE IT'S OPENED, WHICH HAS BEEN OVER A YEAR NOW. UM, AS I MENTIONED IN MY RIDING TO THE COURT, UH, MY SERVICE DOG BACHELOR WAS TRAINED AT FOXY AND I REALLY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TRAVEL OR BE ABLE TO, UM, LIVE THE LIFE THAT I'M LIVING WITHOUT MY SUPPORT DOG. UM, THE TRAINING THAT HE RECEIVED AT FOXY OXY WAS, UH, BAR NONE. AND I BELIEVE THAT FOXY OXY DOES A GOOD SERVICE FOR MANY OTHER PEOPLE. AS THE, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE, ALLOW THE DOGS TO COME HOME WITH GOOD ENERGY SO THAT THE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO, UM, EXPERIENCE THERAPEUTIC BENEFITS FROM THE, THE DOGS THAT THEY RECEIVE, THE GOOD CARE THERE. AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE TAKING THEIR DOGS HOME AFTER DAYS AT WORK OR STRESSFUL DAYS THAT THEY'RE, UM, THE DOGS ARE IN A HAPPY PLACE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN EXERCISING, THEY'VE BEEN IN GOOD COMPANY, THEY'VE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF AND THE, THE PEOPLE ARE NOT STRESSED OUT THAT THE DOGS ARE NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF. WELL, THEY HAVE A, A GOOD PLACE TO BE, AND THE, THE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THESE THERAPEUTIC BENEFITS FROM FOXY ROXY. I BELIEVE SINCE I'VE STARTED GOING THERE SEEN THAT THE AREA AROUND FOXY ROXY HAS REALLY DEVELOPED AND SEEING A LOT OF SHOP HAS EXPIRED AROUND THE AREA. I BELIEVE THAT THE INCREASED TRACK. HELLO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PARTICIPATING. HELLO? YES. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. NEXT SPEAKER NIKA 78, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MIKA SCH AND I'M A RESIDENT SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1605 LEONA STREET IN EAST AUSTIN. IT HAS BEEN A GREAT PRIVILEGE TO BE THE FIFTH GENERATION OF MY FAMILY TO INHABIT THIS HOME TO HONOR THE LEGACIES OF MY ANCESTORS WHO MADE SUCH STRONG FOUNDATIONS FOR OUR FAMILY AND TO UNCOVER LOST CONNECTIONS TO A HIGHLY ACCLAIMED AUSTIN NIGHT THROUGH THIS APPLICATION PROCESS, THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN HOME TO SEVERAL NOTEWORTHY APP NOTEWORTHY RESIDENTS WHO MADE MEANINGFUL CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CULTURAL IDENTITY OF AUSTIN, INCLUDING MY GREAT GREAT AUNT HELEN WALTON, OR A BETH AS WE CALLED HER A SUCCESSFUL BLACK COSMETOLOGIST AND ENTREPRENEUR, WILLIE BOOTS, WALTON SENIOR, A BLUES AND TIME MUSICIAN CREDITED WITH BRINGING THE SAME PINE TOP BOOGIE WOOGIE TO AUSTIN AND MANUEL COWBOY DONLEY. THE GODFATHER OF TEJANO MUSIC. IT'S REMARKABLE THAT AFTER 78 YEARS, OUR HOME HAS BEEN ONE OF FEW PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED IN INHABITABLE CONDITION BY DIRECT D DESCENDS AS URBAN RENEWAL PROJECTS THREATENED HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS AUSTIN, BUT PARTICULARLY IN CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN'S FORMAL NEGRO DISTRICT. THANK YOU SPEAK FOR YOUR TIME HAS ONGOING APPRECIATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DAVID KING ON 82, PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE STATESMAN PART OF INEQUITY, THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE LONG STANDING PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE BAT VIEWING AREA AND BUTLER TRAIL FROM SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE IS INEQUITABLE AND ELITIST. THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL TO HIDE AND PREVENT PUBLIC ACCESS TO PUBLIC OPEN GREEN SPACE, PUBLIC PARKLAND AND PUBLIC TRAILS IS INEQUITABLE AND ELITIST. THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL TO PROHIBIT LOW INCOME FAMILIES FROM LIVING IN THE LUXURY. RESIDENTIAL TOWERS IS INEQUITABLE AND ELITIST. THE CITY'S PROPOSAL TO SUBSIDIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THIS LUXURY DEVELOPMENT WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS FUNDED BY LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME FAMILIES IS INEQUITABLE AND ELITIST. THE CITY'S PROPOSAL TO SUBSIDIZE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS LUXURY DEVELOPMENT WITH LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME, TAXPAYER MONEY IS INEQUITABLE AND ELITIST. PLEASE DO NOT LET LUXURY DEVELOPERS APPROPRIATE PUBLIC SPACES, PUBLIC TRAILS, AND PUBLIC ACCESS FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF WEALTHY AND HIGH INCOME PEOPLE. PLEASE VOTE NOTE ON THE ELITIST PU OF THANK YOU, BARBARA MARTIN, 82 AND 83. HI, THIS IS BARBARA MARTIN AND I OPPOSE 82 AND 83 2. THE DEVELOPER TESTIFIED AT THE LAST HEARING THAT THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT REP GOT UP AND TESTIFIED THAT THEY OPPOSED THE DEVELOPER'S PLAN. THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ATTACKS INCENTIVE IS, AND THAT'S KIND OF OUTRAGEOUS WHEN THIS IS PRIME REAL ESTATE AND THEY WILL BE ENCROACHING UNDER THE TRAIL, CUTTING DOWN PRECIOUS TREES AND REDUCING ACCESS TO THE TRAIL. THE NEW STRUCTURE IS GONNA BE BUILT FLUSH TO THE CONGRESS AVENUE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE HIKE AND BIKE [03:20:01] TRAIL. YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE SUPPORTING THIS PLAN WHEN WE IT'S GONNA BE A HUGE LOSS FOR ALL AUSTIN RESIDENTS, PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS PLAN. THANK YOU, GARRETT. NICK ON 82 AND 83. HELLO. UH, I'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN AND SOUTH AUSTIN FOR 23 YEARS. 10 OF WHICH I WAS THE SECRETARY FOR THE SCC THREE OF THOSE YEARS. I VOLUNTEERED FOR THREE SOLID YEARS TO WORK ON THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT DISTRICT OVERLAY. UM, THAT WAS ALL VOLUNTEER TIME. IT, IT IS VERY DISENFRANCHISING TO GET TO THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS AND HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S PAID HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AN HOUR TO SHOW UP AND TALK ABOUT THEIR PLAN WHEN THEY NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THE PUBLIC PLAN PROCESS. IF YOU WANT TO DISENFRANCHISE YOUR SUPPORTERS AND OTHER CITIZENS, THEN YOU SHOULD CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH OF NOT LISTENING TO WHAT WE'VE WORKED ON FOR YEARS USING LOTS OF INPUT FROM ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS. UH, THE STATEMENT PUT AS A GIANT RIPOFF FOR EVERYONE IN AUSTIN. UH, AND I DON'T, I CAN'T THINK OF WHY YOU WOULD SUPPORT IT, UM, AND IGNORE ALL OF THE YEARS OF PLANNING AND WORK THAT HAVE GONE INTO THIS. WE DESERVE BETTER AND YOU CAN STAND UP AND DEMAND IT WHENEVER YOU'RE READY INSTEAD OF JUST ROLLING OVER. THANKS JEFF DICKERSON, 84. HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, PLEASE PROCEED. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS JEFF DICKERSON. I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN AND DONNA CLIN FOR THE POSTAL AND WORKING WITH US TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES WITH THE ADVOCATE. UH, I NEED TO BRING UP ANOTHER POINT AS A HEARING IMPAIRED PERSON WITH A COCHLEAR IMPLANT. WHEN I'M SPEAKING ON THE PHONE AND LOOKING AT THE LIVE TRANSCRIPT ON SCREEN, THERE'S ABOUT A TWO MINUTE DISCONNECT. SO AS A HEARING PERSON, PAYER PERSON, I CANNOT FOLLOW THIS CONVERSATION AND TRY TO HEAR OVER THE TELEPHONE WHAT IS GOING ON. SO I APPRECIATE IF SOMEONE WAS LOOKING TO THIS BEFORE THE NEXT TIME AND IMPAIRED PERSONS LIKE ME, LISTEN AND SPEAK. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, MAYOR. YES. CAN WE JUST ASK THAT SOMEONE, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE APPROPRIATE PERSON, IF THAT'S THE CITY CLERK OR APPROPRIATE PERSON TO LOOK INTO THAT? WELL, REACH OUT TO ATX N THANK YOU. MM-HMM UM, MAYOR. YES, COUNCIL TOVO. AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE AN AREA WHERE WE CONSIDER PROVIDING EXTRA TIME TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS. OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER, TRACY WHIT ON 65 AND 85. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON'S COCKTAIL LOUNGE, UM, YOUTH EXPANSION CAME AT THE TAIL END OF A LONG REGULATORY CLEANUP PROCESS. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT SHE PLEASE CLARIFY, WHEN SHE FIRST SPOKE WITH MEMBERS OF EUREKA GIL FILL GROUP, THEIR LOBBYISTS ARE REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT EXPANDING PERMISSION FOR COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE ON EAST 12TH STREET. BUT THE BEFORE, AFTER SHE DECLARED HER CANDIDACY IN JANUARY, 2018, BEFORE OR AFTER SHE SET UP A CAMPAIGN OFFICE ON EAST 12TH STREET, PROPERTY OWNED BY EUREKA ENTITY BEFORE OR AFTER HER CAMPAIGN ACCEPTED $5,100 IN DONATIONS FROM EUREKA AND GIL FILLIN GROUP MEMBERS, THEIR SPOUSES AND RELATIVES. WHEN DID SHE FIRST TALK TO EUREKA OR THEIR TEAM ABOUT A COCKTAIL LOUNGE YOUTH AMENDMENT TO THE NCCD. AND LONG BEFORE SHE DROPPED THIS CHANGE ON THE COMMUNITY THAT IS IMPACTED BY IT. AND DO YOU, DOES SHE HAVE ANY HOUSING HISTORY WITH EUREKA OR ANY OTHER EAST 12TH STREET OWNER WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM HER EXPANSION OF ALCOHOL USE PERMISSION? THANK YOU. BENNY COLEMAN ON 85. HI, THIS IS DEAN COLEMAN, UM, WEIGHING IN ON THIS, HOPING THAT THIS COULD BE APPROVED FOR THE ZONING CHANGE. UM, FIRST QUESTION THAT MANY AFRICAN AMERICANS, AS THEY COME TO TOWN IS WHERE, WHERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE. AND WE HAVE CONTINUED TO BE, UH, ERASED AND DISPLACED UPROOTED COMMUNITIES MOVED AROUND SORT OF DEATH BY A THOUSAND POLICY CUTS OVER A LONG TIMELINE. UH, YOU HAVE THE 2008 AFRICAN AMERICAN QUALITY OF LIFE REPORTS, UH, THAT RECOMMENDS CALLS FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ARTS CULTURE AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT 11TH AND 12TH STREET BEING HISTORICALLY AFRICAN [03:25:01] AMERICAN IS SORT OF A LAST PLACE WHERE WE CAN, UM, PRESERVE SOMETHING FOR US. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST A BAR. UH, THIS IS FOR SOPHISTICATED CROWD OF, UH, PROFESSIONALS AND LEADERS WHO WOULD LIKE A PLACE TO GO AND CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER. THERE'S ALSO A REPORT BY MEASURE THAT AFRICAN AMERICAN LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE IN TWO 12 CATALYST THAT WAS RECENTLY DONE IN 2022, UH, 375, UH, BLACK INDIVIDUALS RESPONDED AT THE REASON WHY THEY LEAVE AUSTIN. AND WE DO HAVE A DECLINING BLACK POPULATION, AS A PERCENTAGE IN AUSTIN IS BECAUSE OF A LACK OF BELONGING. YOU DON'T HAVE PLACES TO GO. SO WE REALLY WANT TO, UM, EMPHASIZE THIS EMPLOYERS ARE GETTING US HERE, BUT MANY ARE LEAVING FOR A LACK OF SOCIAL CONNECTIONS. THIS CAN BE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AND FIND EACH OTHER AND ENJOY A LITTLE BIT OF AUSTIN. WE FIGURE YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. THANK YOU, MICHELLE HOGAN ON 85. HELLO. UM, MY NAME IS MICHELLE HOGAN AND I'VE LIVED IN OUR HOME ON EAST 12TH, EAST 13TH STREET FOR 20 YEARS. WELL, THERE ARE MANY OBVIOUS PROBLEMS WITH TURNING EAST 12TH INTO A BAR DISTRICT. THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE NOT SO OBVIOUS ON A PERSONAL NOTE FOR THE LAST YEAR. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE MY 85 YEAR OLD MOM WHO LIVES IN HOUSTON TO COME LIVE WITH US SO WE CAN CARE FOR HER. LAST SATURDAY. SHE FINALLY CAME TO VISIT TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SHE WAS MET WITH THUNDERING MUSIC THAT SHOOK OUR WINDOWS. THIS CAME FROM THE UNPERMITTED VENUE BEHIND US ON EAST 12TH, BASED ON HER EXPERIENCE SATURDAY, MY MOM HAS SAID NO TO LIVING WITH US, WHICH MAKES CARING FOR HER MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. IMAGINE HOW MUCH THE RESIDENT'S QUALITY OF LIFE WILL DECREASE. IF ZONING CHANGES WILL ALLOW BARS AND OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT VENUES ON EAST 12, PLEASE LET KNOW ON THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. CLIFTON VAN DYKE ON 85 COUNCIL. THIS IS CLIFTON VAN DYKE, 80 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT OF AUSTIN AND NEW YORK AVENUE. MY FAMILY HOME BUTTS EAST 12TH STREET, UH, ALLEY ALONG THE SOUTH SOUTH SIDE. CURRENT OPERATIONS OF BARS AND EVENT SPACES ON EAST 12TH STREET ARE OVERRUNNING THE ENVIRONS WITH CLOUDS, TRASH AND FLOODING HOMES WITH THE AND AMPLIFIED SOUND THAT YOU CAN'T ESCAPE. EVEN WITH DOORS AND WINDOWS CLOSED. THIS HAPPENS WEEKDAYS AND WEEKENDS, THE CO DEPARTMENT ISSUES, CITATIONS, AND ALL THE DISRUPTIVE HARMFUL ACTIVITY CONTINUES. THE CITY APPEARS TO BE POWERLESS TO SHUT DOWN ILLEGAL GATHERINGS. PLEASE LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT ONE WHO ARE IMPACTED. PLEASE LISTEN TO US AND RESTORE COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE PROHIBITIONS AS THEY WERE AGREED UPON BY THE COMMUNITY. OUR RENEWAL PROJECT NEEDS YOUR COMMITMENT, DECENCY, AND WISDOM TO AVERT THIS HOSPITAL TAKEOVER, OUR FAMILIES NEED YOUR LEADERSHIP, KINDNESS AND UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HAROLD MCMILLAN ON 85. MR. MCMILLAN, PLEASE UNMUTE. THAT CONCLUDES THE, UM, REMOTE SPEAKERS, MR. UM, MCMILLAN JUST RETURNED ONE SECOND. HAROLD MCMILLAN. I'M SORRY FOR THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY THERE. HAVING A HARD TIME. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. YES. UH, MY NAME IS HAROLD MCMILLAN. I'M A RESIDENT OF ROBERTSON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WHICH IS IN THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT BETWEEN 11TH AND 12TH STREET. UH, I AM A STUDENT OF THE HISTORY OF URBAN RENEWAL IN EAST AUSTIN AND ACTUALLY THE CITY'S COMPLICITY IN URBAN RENEWAL, DISPLACEMENT AND GENTRIFICATION. MY AMERICAN STUDIES GRADUATE DEGREE FROM SOME YEARS AGO WAS ON THE DEMISE OF THE 11TH AND 12TH STREET, COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AND THE DEATH DEATH OF THE EAST AUSTIN BLACK MUSIC SCENE. I AM THE PERSON [03:30:01] WHO CONCEIVED THE AUSTIN AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT BASED ON THIS WORK 20 PLUS YEARS AGO, 60 SECONDS IS SHORT. SO NOTHING IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF YOU PROMOTES A BAR DISTRICT PAVERS, MEANING OF WHOM I LOVE AND LIKE THAT IS THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY USED IN GETTING PEOPLE TO SIGN THEIR PETITION. THANK YOU, SPEAKER. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THAT CONCLUDES THE REMOTE SPEAKERS. UM, IN PERSON WE HAVE GU PENYA REGISTERED FOR ITEM 65 ON DECK IS SUSAN. ER WAS ZERI GUBA MS. ER, HI, THANK YOU. WE ARE PREDOMINANTLY A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF DIVERSITY AND LONGTIME RESIDENTS. THERE WAS NO RE OUTREACH DUE TO COVID, WHICH HAS BEEN STATED IN STAFF NOTES. MANY OLDER NEIGHBORS ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT AND FEEL THEY WILL BE DISPLACED. THE EAST 12TH CORRIDOR IS OVERRUN ALREADY WITH ST. HOW DOES THIS HELP IN A HOUSING CRISIS? THE TRAFFIC IS OVERWHELMING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. IT IS NOT A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. WE ARE A DISTRICT THAT IS FRUSTRATED AND ANGRY. I FEEL LIKE OUR CORRIDOR IS BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY A DEVELOPER. THE ONLY WORLD WINNER IS THE DEVELOPER WE'VE BEEN LIVING WITH A LOT OF VACANT WATCH SHOWCASING OUTDOOR LIVE MUSIC EVENTS ON THIS DEVELOPER'S PROPERTY ENFORCEMENT CAN'T HELP THE RIGHTS CITATIONS AND NOTHING. THIS WILL BRING MORE DISPLACEMENT, NOT HOUSING, PLEASE HONOR. OUR VALID PETITION WAS ZIRI GURU ON 65 AND 85 ON DECK IS JAY ARCHER. GOOD AFTERNOON. HONORABLE COUNSEL. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING ME HERE TO SPEAK, UH, AS THIS IS MY FOURTH TIME. I THINK YOU ALL KNOW WHERE I STAND. I STAND WITH COUNCILWOMAN HARPER, MADISON ON THIS. I JUST WANTED TO READ A FEW OF THE LETTERS FROM LOCAL LEADERS WHO WE GATHERED AND HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR YOU. DAYRON BOWERS, PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL BLACK MBA ASSOCIATION, AUSTIN CHAPTER PROFESSOR HOUSTON TILSON UNIVERSITY RIGHTS. I BELIEVE THAT EAST 12TH STREET SHOULD BE LIVELY, ACTIVE, THRIVING IN PROSPER FOR GENERATIONS TO COME, ESPECIALLY DUE TO ITS DESIGNATION AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORICAL DISTRICT. THAT IS WHY I STAND WITH COUNCILWOMAN HARPER MADISON'S MOTION. WE DO NOT WANT TO BLOCK ACCESS TO ANYTHING IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DINE AT RESTAURANTS AND BARS NEAR OUR HOMES, BEANIE COLEMAN, WHO YOU HEARD SPEAK ALSO PRESENTS THE FACT IN HER LETTER TO YOU THAT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN AUSTIN, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION, AUSTIN DROPPED 5.4% BETWEEN 2000, 2010. AND IN THE PAST DECADE, THAT DECLINE HAS NOT SLOWED DOWN. THE DISTRICT IN QUESTION IS A CRITICAL PIECE IN THE HISTORY OF THIS BUSINESS CLASS. AND WE ASK THAT YOU TAKE THE TIME TO APPRECIATE OUR CONCERN ABOUT CHANGES TO REGULATIONS THAT LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN PROFITABLE BUSINESSES NO DIFFERENTLY THAN OUR HISTORICAL COUNTERPARTS IN THE AREA. ONCE DID THE LETTERS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. I ASK YOU ALL TAKE A CHANCE TO READ THEM. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE TIME JAY ARCHER ON ITEM 65 AND 85 ON DECK IS NICOLE BLAIR. UM, UH, I CALL EAST AUSTIN THE RESERVATION WITH THE 1928 PLAN. WE WERE HERDED TO EAST AUSTIN. MY FAMILY IS A LONG TIME FAMILY FAMILY FROM EAST AUSTIN. WHEN WE CAME OUT OF SLAVERY OUT OF GEORGETOWN, WE ENDED IN, WE ENDED UP HERE IN EAST AUSTIN. CARL DOWNS IS MY GREATUNCLE. UM, MARY JANE SIMS IS ONE OF MY GREAT AUNTS. THERE ARE THE ACADEMIA ACTS. THEN THERE ARE THE STREET PEOPLE IN, IN, IN BLACK COMMUNITY AND BLACK WORLD. WE WERE HELD HOSTAGE AT 12TH. ANDCAN ALL THESE YEARS REDLINING HAVING NO RIGHTS, URBAN RENEWAL, UM, ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD, AND WE COULD NOT GET 12TH. ANDCAN CLEANED UP UNTIL WHITE PEOPLE CAME. I WANT THIS, I WANT THIS PLACE TO BE CLEAN, TO BE DECENT. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RAISE YOUR KIDS CLEANLY IN A NICE, SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND HAVING BARS EVERYWHERE LIKE EAST SIX, WHAT EAST CAESAR CHAVEZ IS TURNED INTO WITH THE PEOPLE, WITH THE SCOOTERS. AND I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S NOT A, A FREE FOR ALL. [03:35:02] THANK YOU, NICOLE BLAIR ON 65 AND 85 ON DECK IS NELL PETERSON. I'M A 48 YEAR OLD ARCHITECT RAISED IN CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN. AND MY FAMILY HAS LIVED ON EAST 11TH FOR 18 YEARS. I KNOW MY OLDER NEIGHBOR AS WELL. NONE OF THEM WANT COCKTAIL LOUNGES UP AND DOWN EAST 12TH, ESPECIALLY NOT UNDER THE FALSE PRETENSE THAT THIS HONORS, THEIR HISTORY EAST 12TH HAS NEVER BEEN AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AS TEXAS MUSIC HISTORIAN, MICHAEL CORCORAN DOCUMENTED. AND IN THE EMAIL I SENT EACH OF YOU, PLEASE UPHOLD THE BLACK. SHE PETITION INCLUDING SIGNATURES FROM SIX AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 42 TO 62 YEARS. THEY ALL OPPOSE BARS AND HAVE NO, AND, AND CAN BACK UP WHAT CORCORAN'S RESEARCH SAYS. THERE HAVE BEEN NO PUBLIC HEARINGS BY CITY STAFF SINCE BARS WERE ADDED, THERE HAVE BEEN NO PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM DISTRICT ONE. SINCE BARS WERE ADDED, UM, THE 3,500 SQUARE FOOT BAR AREA LIMIT SHOULD WARRANT FURTHER DISCUSSION. THOSE BARS WOULD BE ENORMOUS. THE PROPOSED 200 SQUARE FOOT BAR SPACING IS A BIT OF A JOKE. UM, EUREKA OWNS FULL BLOCK. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE BAR OVER AN ENTIRE BLOCK. PLEASE. WE DESERVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE, PLEASE. UM, HONOR OUR PETITION. THANK YOU. NELL PETERSON, SPEAKING ON 65 AND 85 ON DECK IS SYLVIA ANGUIANO. YES. I'M VERNON MITCHELL. AND I'M STANDING IN FORNELL PETERSON. SHE'S I SHE'S A CLOSE FRIEND OF MINE. UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY VOTE NO ON YOUR PROPOSAL. UH, AS A CHILD, I'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN ON THE EAST SIDE, ALL OF MY LIFE, AND I'M 65 YEARS OLD NOW. AND MY GRANDFATHER ALLEN HARRIS STAYED AT 1902 EAST 11TH STREET UNTIL THE TIME OF HIS DEATH. BUT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE 12TH STREET NOW IS WHAT IT, WASN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE. WHAT WE HAD BACK THEN WAS RESPECT THE PEOPLE THAT NOW THE RESIDENTS NOW THEY'RE SCARED THAT ESPECIALLY THE ELDERLY, THEY'RE SCARED TO EVEN OPEN THEIR DOORS. SO I'M ASKING YOU AGAIN TO, UH, SAY NO VOTE. NO, IF YOU WANNA MAKE 12 STREET SOMETHING, MAKE IT A HISTORIC DISTRICT FROM WHAT IT USED TO BE AND NOT WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE. HELLO. MY NAME IS SYLVIA YANO. I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALL FAIR PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT WE ALL WANT THIS. WELL, I HOPE WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING WE WANT. I WANT Y'ALL TO VOTE NO AGAINST THIS REDISTRICTING OR THIS REZONING PROPOSAL. IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY PUBLIC INPUT OR COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETINGS SINCE APRIL OF 2021 ON THIS ISSUE. AND IT WAS AFTER THAT, THAT THE COCKTAIL LOUNGES THAT NATASHA DECIDED TO PUT IN THERE WERE ENTERED WITH NO INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AT ALL. I THINK YOU'RE FAIR. PEOPLE GIVE US A FAIR CHANCE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA VOTE, I WANT YOU TO VOTE. NO, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA VOTE, NO, AT LEAST GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A SCHEDULED MEETING FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH. PLEASE VOTE KNOW IF NOT, AT LEAST BE FAIR ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. CHRISTOPHER TED ON DECK IS, UM, ALI LEE DK, HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, I'M I'M ALI OWNER OF FOXY ROXIES IN SLAUGHTER LANE. UH, WHAT WE DO HERE ON FOX ROXY, DO WE HAVE THE PICTURES WITH THE POST ON MS. ANTHONY? WHAT WE DO AT FOXY ROXIES, WE TAKE HER DOGS, CLIENTS. THEY BRING THE DOGS FOR DAYCARE FOR US. WE ALSO TAKE HER, UH, DOGS FROM SHELTERS THAT, UH, AS EVERYONE KNOWS SHELTERS, EVERY DAY, THEY PUT DOGS DOWN, THEY KILL 'EM. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PROCEDURES TO PUT THESE DOGS AWAY. WHAT WE DO WITH THESE DOGS, WE TRAIN 'EM. WE REHABILITATE AND WE BALANCE THESE DOGS SO THEY CAN FIND HOME HAPPY PEOPLE. AND AS YOU SEE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE KENNELS THAT WE HAVE INSIDE. WE KEEP OUR DOGS INSIDE. WE TAKE 'EM OUTSIDE FOR THE POTTY BREAK FOR THE PEE BREAK AND THE TRAINERS WE WORK WITH THESE DOGS. WE WANT TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT FOR THESE DOGS. SO WHEN THEY GO HOME TO THE OWNERS, THEY HAVE A BALANCED PLACE THAT THEY, THEY CAN BE WITH. UH, EVERYONE AT ONE POINT HAD A PET IN THEIR LIFE. AND, UH, WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE THESE PETS. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE LONELY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY SPOUSES, ANY KIDS. SO THESE PETS ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THESE PEOPLE. AND, UH, WE WANT TO CONTINUE OUR BUSINESS WITH THESE DOGS. [03:40:01] WE'RE DOING THIS AS A PASSION, NOT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID, COULD HE FINISH HIS, HIS SIR? YES. IF YOU JUST WANNA FINISH YOUR SENTENCE THERE. YES, ME AND ALL THE STAFF AT FOXY. WE'RE NOT JUST DOING IT FOR WORK AND MONEY. WE'RE DOING THIS FOR PASSION. WE LOVE THESE. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MAKE IN THIS BUSINESS. THE MONEY WE GET FROM THIS, UH, FROM THIS BUSINESS, WE TURN AROUND AND PUT IT BACK RIGHT INTO OUR DOGS. WE BUILD, WE HAVE A STERILE ARCH FACILITY. WE PUT SPRINKLER FOR THEM WATER. WE MAKE SURE THEY'RE VERY MUCH TAKEN CARE OF. THANK YOU, CHRISTOPHER BOAD ON DECK IS KEVIN MC MCBRIDE. SO MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER BOAD AND I'M ONE OF AUSTIN'S LOCAL HOMELESS. I'M ALSO ONE OF AUSTIN'S LOCAL PHILOSOPHERS. THAT KIND OF GOES WITH THE HOMELESSNESS. UM, WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING HERE? EVERYTHING Y'ALL DONE IS, UH, HAS KIND OF MADE MY LIFE A LITTLE BIT WORSE. SEE, I'M NOT STREET PEOPLE. I AM WORKING HOMELESS. I LIVE IN A VEHICLE AND, UH, LET'S SEE CAMPING BAN, UH, LED TO ME GETTING, UH, UH, WELFARE CHECKED DAILY BY, UH, PEOPLE OUT IN THE SUBURBS. YOU DO THINGS THAT CREATE COMPASSION FOR, FOR THE PERSON THAT I WILL SOON BE. I AM MARCHING TOWARDS BECOMING STREET PEOPLE. AND, UM, I, I DON'T WANNA END UP IN A POINT WHERE I AM DESERVING OF YOUR COMPASSION. SEE, I HEAR THESE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I NEED A DOGGY DAYCARE. I NEED ACCESS TO A TRAIL. I IT'S LEAD US TO BUILD HOUSING FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME. YEAH. AND, UM, OH, DON'T BUILD JOBS NEXT TO MINORITY NEIGHBORHOODS. DON'T BUILD THESE DEVELOPMENTS. DON'T DO THIS. DON'T DO THAT. I NEED A PLACE. AND SOMEONE IS CURRENTLY LIVING IN THAT PLACE. THEY WANT BETTER APARTMENT THAN THAT PLACE. BUILD THEM A FUCKING APARTMENT SO I CAN GET THEIR APARTMENT AND HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, KEVIN MCBRIDE, SPEAKING ON 73. HELLO EVERYONE. UM, MY NAME IS KEVIN MCBRIDE. UM, I'VE BEEN KNOWING ALI FOR A WHILE. UM, AND BASICALLY, UH, FOX ROCK HAS BEEN A, A LIFESAVER FOR ME BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER WAS KIDNAPPED MAY 20TH OF LAST YEAR. AND I NEEDED SOME SOMETHING TO HELP ME TO COPE WITH MY DAUGHTER BEING TAKEN BY, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, UH, ALLIE, HE CAME THROUGH, HE SAID, HEY, I GOT A DOG FOR YOU. I DIDN'T WANT NO DOG. WHEN I WENT THERE I JUST WENT TO SEE ALLIE, ALLIE OPENED UP HIS HEART. HE GAVE ME A DOG. AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH EMOTIONAL DISTRESS, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO HOLD YOU DOWN. SO YOU DON'T GO OFF THE ROCKER. THESE DOGS, THESE SERVICES THAT HE PROVIDES ARE VERY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WHEN YOU NEED SOMEONE TO BE THERE FOR YOU, A DOG IS A MAN'S BEST FRIEND. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT FOXY ROXY IS MUCH NEEDED IN THIS AREA. NOT JUST PEOPLE BUILDING APARTMENT COMPLEXES, COMING IN FROM CALIFORNIA, UH, WITH BIG MONEY AND CHANGE IN TEXAS FROM THE WAY WE TYPICALLY LIVE HERE. AND THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY. CHALA DRO ON 73 ON DECK IS JOSEPH REYNOLDS. HI, MY NAME IS DEL ROME. THE REGARDING THE ZONING CASE REFERENCE CASE NUMBER 2103 WEST SLAUGHTER LANE AND THE SMALL BUSINESS OWN IT AND OPERATED BY MY SON ALLEY DEL RAM ALLEY IS OWNER OF THE FOXY ROXY DOGGIES DAY OUT A PET SERVICES, A SMALL BUSINESS LOCATED AT THIS ADDRESS IN DISTRICT FIVE. UH, PLEASE NOTE THE ENTERTAINMENT SERVICE TENANT CLOSED AND THE SPACE HAS BEEN VACATED, OR WE MOVE IT PET SERVICE SEATED. MR. CLE CITY INSPECTOR INFORM ON THE SEPTEMBER 13 START VIOLATION CASE CLOSED. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL MIX. IT USE, UH, CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, L R M UCO COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING. THE CONDITION OVERLAY WOULD BE MODIFIED TO REMOVE THREE USERS FROM THEIR PROHIBITED, USING THE LEAST ORDINANCE NUMBER TO 2 0 1 4 0 AGE ZERO ON A MAY. ANYWAY, I RESOLVED THE PROB FROM PROBLEMATIC SOME OF THE AREA, OUR NEIGHBOR WHO COMPLAIN DISTURBED, BUT THE DOG IS NO MORE ANY NOISING FOR ANYTHING, BUT THEREFORE CURRENT PET SERVICES BUSINESS WILL COMPLY AND NEVER CAUSES NEW S THE BARKING. I WOULD ALSO MENTION TRYING TO KEEP ACTIVE PAYROLL GOING FOR 11 EXISTING EMPLOY WHO COUNT ON THIS [03:45:01] BUSINESS FOR LEAVING, HELPING SHELTER DOC, TO PREVENT, KILL THEM, HELPING OUR CUSTOMER TO CARE OF DOUG. I PUT MY ASSET IN THIS BUSINESS FOR ONLY HELPING WITH THE NO PROFIT AND NEED CITY OF US IN SUPPORT TO KEEP THIS BUSINESS ACTIVE. BECAUSE IF I AM TRYING TO KEEP BUILDING ACTIVE, NOT AWAKENED, THAT WILL BE CAUSE AT PLACE FOR HOMELESS TRANSPARENTING FOR ABOUT REASON. I AM REQUESTING PLEASE SUPPORT REZONING ADDITION TO THE PET SERVICE TO THE CONDITION YOU COULD USE AS FOR THIS PROPERTY AS RECOMMENDATION BY HOUSING AND THE PARK PLAIN DEPARTMENT STAFF, AND REMOVE IT FROM THE PROHIBITED USE LIST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, JOSEPH REYNOLDS, ITEM 81 ON DECK IS ROY WALEY, VIRGINIA PALMER. SARAH CAMPBELL ON DECK IS WENDY TODD. HELLO, MY NAME IS SARAH CAMPBELL AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF, UM, SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHERE THE STATESMAN PUT IS LOCATED FOR 37 YEARS. AND, UH, SINCE BEFORE THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS WORKED TO KEEP DOWNTOWN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RIVER AND TO KEEP IT FROM ENCROACHING TO THE SOUTH. UM, THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY SET IN PLACE STANDARDS OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE COULD EMBRACE THE RECENT SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION PLAN. UH, WE PARTICIPATED IN AND EMBRACED, BUT THAT PLAN IS SERIOUSLY ERODED BY WHAT THE, UH, APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOR 3 0 5 SOUTH CONGRESS OUTSIDE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, AS WELL AS LOCAL DESIGN PROFESSIONALS HAVE BEEN TELLING US FOR YEARS THAT AUSTIN GIVES IT AWAY. DOESN'T MAKE ADEQUATE DEMANDS ON DEVELOPERS. IT'S BEEN TRUE AND WILL BE TRUE IN THIS CASE, IF YOU APPROVE 3 0 5 SOUTH CONGRESS IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED. THANK YOU, WENDY TODD ON DECK IS BILL OLIVER. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M BACK AGAIN. S WENDY TODD S RCC PRESIDENT I CORRESPONDED AND TRIED TO MEET WITH MANY OR IN ALL OF YOU REGARDING THE STATESMAN POD. UM, WE, I PARTICIPATED SINCE 2012 IN THE DESIGN OF THE, THE VISION FRAMEWORK PLAN. I SAT ON THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD. NOW I SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN EARNEST. WE HEARD THE APPLICANT IN 2019 WHEN THEY APPLIED FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE, WHICH IS THE WHOLE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION PLAN WAS TO AVOID A PIPELINE OF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO URGE THE, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO USE THE HIGHEST STANDARDS FOR A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND TO, AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO REVIEW, IF IT'S A FILED AS A PUT, REVIEW IT AS A PUT AND HOLD IT TO HIGHER STANDARDS THAN WHAT BORROWING AND TAKING ENTITLEMENTS OUT OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION PLAN IS PROVIDING THEM WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT. UM, THANK YOU, BILL OLIVER ON DECK IS RUSSELL FRAZIER. RUSSELL FRAZIER ON DECK IS LINDA NUNO. HELLO, MY NAME IS RUSSELL FRAZIER. I'M A LONG TERM, UH, RESIDENT IN THE D NINE DISTRICT. I'M GONNA QUOTE SOME FIGURES, UH, TO YOU FROM THE LATEST, BUT I BELIEVE IS THE LATEST SOUTH CENTRAL WATER FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND CALCULATOR SEPTEMBER, 2020, THERE MIGHT BE SOME RECENT, UH, SOME MINOR REVISIONS, BUT I THINK THIS IS THE, THE GIST OF IT. UM, YOU'VE SEEN, PROBABLY SEEN THIS GRAPHIC WITH THE, THE TITLE OF THE GIGANTIC BUILDINGS. UM, IN ESSENCE, WHAT THE DEVELOPER DID IS, IS ANALYZE WHAT THEY CALL THE HYBRID BUILD OUT, WHICH WAS THE 2016, THE 400 FOOT BUILDING, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, YIELDING, UH, TWO AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET OF, UH, OFFICE RESIDENTIAL HOTEL AND, UH, RETAIL LATELY. THE POD APPLICATION IS UP TO THREE AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET. THAT'S BECAUSE THE BUILDING HEIGHTS ARE ALL INCREASING. [03:50:02] THIS IS AN INCREASE BETWEEN 2016 AND, AND RECENTLY OF A MILLION SQUARE FEET. AND THAT'S ALL IN OFFICE IN RESIDENTIAL. UH, IT'S I THINK IT WOULD BE A BIG MISTAKE TO, TO NEGOTIATE WITH ENDEAVOR WITHOUT DOING OUR OWN FINANCIAL ANALYSIS. AND THEREFORE I'M AGAINST IT. THANK YOU. LINDA NUNO ON DECK IS DANNY AFTER DANNY THOMPSON IS DERON BOWERS. YES, I'M HERE. UH, I NEVER, AT 1183, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS CITY. I'VE BEEN PLAYING MUSIC IN THIS CITY FOR PRETTY MUCH 50 YEARS. UH, AND I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH A LOT OF THE, UH, THE VISITORS WHO COMES THROUGH. I PLAY EVERY DAY IN, IN MY FRONT YARD AND THEY COME BY AND THEY LET ME KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY, WHY THEY CAME, WHAT THEY ENJOY. I SPEAK TO MY, I SPEAK TO MY NEIGHBORS. NONE OF 'EM HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS. THEY MOVE TO THAT AREA FOR THAT REASON. AND I'VE BEEN NOTICING THAT FOR A GOOD 40 YEARS. IT WOULD BE A SHAME. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S WHAT, WHAT MADE AUSTIN, WHAT IS BECOMING NOW AND FOR US TO STOP THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING THAT'S BECOMING, BECOMING GREAT FOR US, I THINK WILL BE A SHAME. OUR WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT NATASHA WITH ALL MY HEART, IF IT WASN'T FOR HER, THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HER TRYING TO DO THIS, IT WOULD STOP WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING AT FOR 65 YEARS. AND I HOPE YOU'LL TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. DAYRON BOWERS ON DECK IS EDWARD WINSTON. LEE SHERMAN ON DECK IS MELANIE HOUSE DIXON. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. FOR, FOR LISTENING TO ME, MY NAME IS EDWARD WINSTON. I'M A RESIDENT OF NEW YORK AVENUE, UM, WHICH IS, UM, JUST ADJACENT TO 12TH STREET. I'VE UM, UM, LONGTIME RESIDENT OF AUSTIN BEEN LIVING HERE FOR 50, 52 YEARS. UM, 12TH STREET HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. UM, I DON'T REMEMBER. AND MY GROWING UP, UM, TOO MANY BARS IN THE AREA, THE CHICAGO AND 12TH STREET AREA DID HAVE BARS. THERE WERE NOT A LOT OF BARS, UM, UP AND DOWN THE STREET. I AM HERE SPEAKING IN AND HOPING THAT YOU WOULD BUILD AGAINST, UM, THE COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER'S, UH, AGENDA ITEM OF 85, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE EXPANDED USE OF, OF BARS. UM, I'M ALL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 12TH STREET. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. WE'VE WANTED THAT FOR A LONG TIME. UM, WE'VE WATCHED 11TH STREET DEVELOP AND THEN WATCHED 12TH STREET TO SIT THERE FOR, FOR YEARS AND NOTHING'S HAPPENED. UM, WE WOULD LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT, THAT DOES HAPPEN TO BE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANT. AND THAT IS CONDUCIVE TO RAISING A FAMILY. THANK YOU, LEE SHERMAN, MELANIE HOUSE DIXON IS ON DECK. MY NAME'S LEE SHERMAN. I'M A LONG TIME EAST AUSTIN RESIDENT BEEN IN THE AREA FOR 26 YEARS. AND, UH, A FEW NAMES, CLIFTON VAN DYKE, EDWARD WINSTON. YOU JUST HEARD FROM CHARLES ALEXANDER, IDA HUNT, ISAIAH MOORE, ILENE CARTER. HE MET MAHI ANITA. SHE UO CARB HALL. THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF 50, SOME ODD PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED A VALID PETITION REQUESTING NO EXPANSION OF COCKTAIL LOUNGE USES DESPITE CONCURRENT FROM THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, AUSTIN REVITALIZATION AUTHORITY, A UNILATERAL ACTION WAS TAKEN BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER MEDICINE TO RADICALLY EXPAND BAR USE PERMISSIONS AND A, AND A NON COMPROMISE WAS OFFERED TO EXPAND IT BY FOUR OR FIVE TIMES. THE NUMBER OF BARS WE HAVE NOW, THE 200 FOOT SPACING IDEA WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE AS SEEN WITH RECENT ACTIVITY ON EAST 12, [03:55:01] LACK OF PERMITS OR LEGALITY DOES NOT STOP EUREKA AND TENANTS FROM SLINGING BOOS AND DISRESPECTING THE COMMUNITY WITH NOISE AND TRASH RE CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT BEING REPRESENTED. AND WE ARE DISAPPOINTED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON FOR REPRESENTING EUREKA, A DALLAS CORPORATION. INSTEAD, WE ALL WANNA SEE BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES ALONG EAST 12TH AND ALL OF AUSTIN DISPLACING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WITH BARS DOES NOT PROVIDE AFFORDABLE COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR THESE RESTAURANTS ALREADY ALLOW ALCOHOL SERVICE. SO WHY BARS, THE ONES WE HAVE ARE ANGLO. THOSE DON'T EQUAL A CULTURAL DISTRICT. THANK YOU. MELANIE HOUSE DIXON ON DECK IS TOBIN LEVY, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TIM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MELANIE HAL DIXON, AND I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY, NOT AS THE MLK IN A PRESIDENT OR THE EAST MLK CO-CHAIR OR THE PRESIDENT FOR THE, UH, BETHANY, UH, CEMETERY, BUT AS A LONG TERM RESIDENT FOR THE, FOR EAST AUSTIN AND DISTRICT ONE, I SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE UPZONING FOR THE 11TH AND 12TH STREET COURT AREA. WHY? BECAUSE PRE UH, PRELIMINARILY 11TH STREET WAS OUR ONLY AREA FOR ENTERTAINMENT. IT HOLDS HISTORICAL VALUE. AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOSING ALL OF OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORICAL VALUE FOR THIS PART OF TOWN. AS YOU HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY TODAY, THE VOICE OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY IS NOT BEING HEARD. WE ARE BEING IGNORED FOR THE SAKE OF DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE BEING IGNORED FOR THE SAKE OF, OF ZONING, AND WE WOULD LIKE TRANSPARENCY AND WE WOULD WANT, AND WE WANT TO SEE, UH, UH, HAVING MORE OF AN IMPART OF, OF INPUT FOR WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY. I ASK THAT YOU OPPOSE ON THIS THIRD READING THE UPZONING FOR THE 11TH AND 12TH STREET. THANK YOU AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TOBIN LEVY. AND ON DECK IS TORSTON WE? HI, UM, I'M TOBIN LEVY AND AN AUSTIN NATIVE, AND I'VE LIVED AT MY HOME ON NEW YORK AVENUE, ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF EAST 12TH, UH, FOR EIGHT YEARS. UH, I'M HERE ONCE AGAIN TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, ALLOWING FOR THE CREATION OF A BAR DISTRICT IN THE 11TH AND 12TH STREET, URBAN RENEWAL AREA. UM, TO BE HONEST, I'M, I'M REALLY TERRIFIED OF PUBLIC SPEAKING AND LIKE MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS REALLY TIRED OF MISSING WORK FOR WHAT INCREASINGLY SADLY FEELS LIKE A, SEEMS LIKE AN FORROW CONCLUSION, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE EXISTS A VISION FOR EAST 12TH THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND AGREED UPON THROUGH MASSIVE AND DIVERSE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. CAUSE FOR REASONABLE DENSITY, HOUSING AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE WALKABLE SERVE RESIDENTS AND HONOR AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE. THAT VISION PURPOSEFULLY DOES NOT INCLUDE A NEW BAR DISTRICT STILL WE'RE BACK HERE. AND IT HAS, UM, EQUALLY TERRIFYING AND EVEN MORE SO BECAUSE OF THE DIVISIVE LANGUAGE AND THE ACCUSATIONS OF RACISM THAT HAVE COME FROM THE LAST MEETINGS. AND I JUST HOPE THAT YOU'LL LOOK AT THE HISTORY AND REALLY LISTEN TO US. IT WOULD BE MUCH OR LISTEN TO EVERYONE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TORSTEN WE AFTERNOON MY NAME'S TOTEN WIRE, UH, NINE YEAR RESIDENT OF NEW YORK AVENUE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO, UH, POSE THE, UH, THE ZONING CHANGES FOR NUMBER 85 AGAINST THE, THE BAR SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BARS AND THE COCKTAIL LOUNGE IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S VERY QUIET. IT'S VERY SAFE. UM, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT EXCESS TRAFFIC AND ALL, AND TURNING THAT INTO AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND REALLY DESTROYING THE FABRIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE HISTORICAL ASPECTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY WITH AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE. AND ONE OF THE ATTRACTIVE THINGS FOR ME, MOVING DOWN THERE WAS, WAS TO SUPPORT THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES. SO PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT IMPACT ADDING ALL THOSE BARS ARE GONNA HAVE TO, TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE SPEAKERS. [04:00:06] HI COLLEAGUES. [Zoning Consent Agenda] THANK THAT. COMES BACK TO ASH. WANNA TAKE US TO THE CONSENT? SURE. MAYOR JERRY RUSSO AGAIN WITH THE HOUSING PLAN DEPARTMENT, UM, ITEM 71 IS CASE C 14, 2020 0 1 43. UM, THIS CASE IS A POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO OCTOBER 13TH, ITEM 72, THIS CASE C 14, 2020 1 0 1 61. THIS IS A POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO OCTOBER 27TH, ITEM NUMBER 73, THIS CASE C 14, 2020 2 0 0 20. UM, I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON SECOND AND THIRD READINGS. I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. YOU'RE OKAY WITH INCLUDING PET SERVICES AS A PERMITTED USE. UM, YES I AM. OKAY, THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 74, THIS CASE C 14, 2020 2 0 0 47. THIS CASE HAS AN INDEFINITE POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT ITEM. 75 IS KC 14, 2020 2, 0 39. THIS IS A POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE STAFF TO OCTOBER 13TH, UH, ITEM 76, KC 8 14 92 0 6 0.02. THIS IS A POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE STAFF TO OCTOBER 27TH, ITEM 77, KC 14 H 2020 2 0 0 78. I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS ITEM NUMBER 78, KC 14 H 2020 2 98. I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON VERSE READING ONLY ITEM NUMBER 79 CASE C 14, 2020 2 0 66. I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS ITEM NUMBER 80 CASE C 14 2020 2 0 0 75 CAN OFFER THIS FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS ITEM 81 CASE C 14, 2020 2 0 0 50. I CAN OFFER THIS FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON FIRST READING ONLY ITEM NUMBER 82, THIS CASE NPA 2019 0 0 22 0.02. THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THE STATEMENT. PUT IT, THIS WILL BE A POSTPONEMENT TO SEPTEMBER 29TH, ITEM 83, KC 8 14 89 0 0 3 0.02 STATES BEEN PUT POSTPONEMENT TO SEPTEMBER 29TH, ITEM 84, CASE C 14, 2020 2 0 0 56. THIS IS A POSTPONE REQUEST BY COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN TO SEPTEMBER 29TH ITEM 84 IS CASE C 14, 2020 1 37. THIS IS EAST 12TH STREET NCCD, AND THIS CASE WILL BE DISCUSSION MAYOR. LAST ONE IS NUMBER 85. IS THAT RIGHT? NUMBER 85? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. THE CONSENT AGENDA ON ZONING IS ITEM 71 THROUGH 85. THE ONLY ITEM BEING PULLED IS ITEM 85. SO A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT COUNCIL APPOINT. THIS MAKES THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MEDICINE, SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. YEAH, WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ON TUESDAY ABOUT POSTPONING TO A TIME WHEN TWO OF OUR COLLEAGUES ARE OFF THE DIAS. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY COMPLEX CASE. I THINK IT DESERVES THE ATTENTION OF OUR FULL, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TALK ABOUT EXTENSIVELY. AND SO I, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO A DIFFERENT POSTPONEMENT DATE, IF, BUT RATHER THAN ARGUE ABOUT IT NOW LET'S POSTPONE IT TILL THE 29TH AND, AND TAKE IT UP AGAIN THEN. BUT I, I DO THINK THIS CASE DESERVES A FULL DI WHEN WE CONSIDER IT ON SECOND READING, IT IS NOT A, A SIMPLE ZONING CASE. IT IS AN EXTREMELY COMPLEX ONE, A HUGE ORDINANCE, MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN POSED THAT ARE SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT PASSED ON FIRST READING, AND IT'S GONNA REQUIRE OUR ATTENTION. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY WHEN IT COMES BACK, WHETHER IT'S ON THE 29TH OR OUR FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER, WE REALLY NEED TO AFFORD THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO SPEAK TO US THREE MINUTES, A FULL THREE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS BUSINESS OF DOING ONE MINUTE IS JUST, IT DOES NOT PROVIDE ANYBODY WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TALK ABOUT ISSUES OF SUBSTANCE. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S I, I LIKE LOOKING AT THAT I'M QUESTION. HAVE THE SAME QUESTION. SO LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THE 29TH. YES, KELLY. UM, AT THE RISK OF REPEATING EVERYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO JUST SAID, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I AGREE WITH HER AND I WOULD LIKE TO AFFORD THE COMMUNITY ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION FOR THE FUTURE OF HOW OUR CITY'S GOING TO LOOK. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND THEN TAKE A VOTE ON THE CONSENT. AGENDA THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED. UM, WHAT ARE WE MISSING? MAYOR PRO TAB. UM, SO ON A VOTE WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED ON A VOTE 10 0 1 WITH THE MAYOR PROAM OFF THE, UH, OFF THE, UH, DAIS. UM, OKAY. SO LET'S NOW PICK UP SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE, UH, UM, HAVE, HAVE PASSED ON, UH, BEFORE, UH, AND SOME OF THE THINGS I THINK WE CAN HANDLE, LET'S BEGIN WITH ITEM [Items 65 & 85] 65 AND 85, WHICH IS THE EAST 12TH STREET, UH, N CCV, [04:05:04] GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL. I'M MARK WALTERS WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT ITEMS 65 AND ALL THREE READINGS AND ITEM 85 ON THIRD READING. CAN I HAVE THE PRESENTATION PLEASE? AT THE JULY 28TH MEETING, I WAS ASKED TO DO AN ANALYSIS KIND OF A BACK OF THE ENVELOPE ABOUT THE SPACING REQUIREMENTS FOR COCKTAIL LOUNGES ALONG 12TH STREET. AND THE NUMBERS THAT I CAME UP WITH WERE WIDELY HYPOTHETICAL. UH, WE GOT DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO GO AND DO A MORE DETAIL ANALYSIS, AND THIS IS THE RESULTS OF THAT ANALYSIS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS TO INSERT SOME REALITY POSSIBLY INTO THE ANALYSIS. SO WE LOOKED AT STRUCTURES AND SCIENCE THAT WEREN'T LIKELY TO BECOME COCKTAIL LOUNGES FOR A MATTER OF DIFFERENT REASONS, HISTORIC STRUCTURES, HOUSES, CHURCH, AND THERE'S A HISTORIC LODGE, THE MARSHALL APARTMENTS MULTIFAMILY SITE PLAN LOCATIONS, THE NEWER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND FUNERAL HOMES. WE DIDN'T, HOWEVER, LOOK INTO THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT STATE AND LOCAL REGULATIONS WOULD DO IN THE SPACING OF COCKTAIL LOUNGES. THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE ANALYSIS. AND THEN ALSO WE MAY HAVE MISSED A COUPLE OF THEM, AND THESE WERE JUST THEORETICAL OR AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WEREN'T LIKELY. SO THERE, THESE AREN'T STATUTORY OR REGULATORY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE, UH, THE SITES IN LAVENDER ARE, ARE THE SITES THAT WERE, WERE IDENTIFIED AS THE, UH, CONSTRAINT SITES. THE SITES IN GREEN ARE EXISTING COCKTAIL LOUNGES, AND THE YELLOW IS THE UNIVERSE OF SITES WHERE THESE COULD POSSIBLY GO. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE LOOKED AT IT AT DIFFERENT SPACING REQUIREMENTS. WE LOOKED AT IT 150 FEET SPACING. SO YOU HAVE 12 COCKTAIL LOUNGES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AT 200, YOU GET ABOUT 10 COCKTAIL LOUNGES, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THEN AT 300 FEET, YOU GET SEVEN COCKTAIL LOUNGES. BUT ONE THING I LIKE TO ADD IS THIS IS DONE, WAS MORE OF AN ACADEMIC EXERCISES WHERE YOU START AT ONE SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR AND WORK YOUR WAY OVER. THE ACTUAL PATTERN OF BARS WAS ACTUALLY GONNA BE DICTATED ABOUT THE FIRST THREE OR FOUR THAT GO IN AND THAT'S GONNA SET THE PATTERN THERE OUT, UH, CUZ ECONOMIC DECISIONS. AREN'T BASED ON THIS TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, STARTING ON THE EAST AND WORKING YOURSELF TO THE WEST. UH, NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM AT THIS TIME. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER MEDICINE. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ACTUALLY. I, I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I CAN WAIT UNTIL MY COLLEAGUES ASK THEIR QUESTIONS. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF CANCER? TOVA IS THIS THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS ANALYSIS. IS THIS IN OUR BACKUP? YES. THAT THERE IS A REPORT THAT'S BASED ON THAT THIS PRESENTATION WAS TAKEN FROM. UM, COULD I VERY QUICKLY JUST ASK YOU TO GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE PLEASE? SORRY, THE SECOND SLIDE. SECOND SLIDE. THIRD SLIDE. UM, OKAY. ACTUALLY THE ONE BEFORE IT, AND THEN THIS ONE I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT, SO I THINK YOU SAID THIS, THIS IS NOT THE CONSTRAINT HERE IS NOT A LEGAL ONE OR ONE OF ZONING. IT'S JUST WHAT YOU THINK IS LIKELY. YEAH. YES. I MEAN HISTORIC STRUCTURES CAN AND DO SERVE AS BARS. YES. BUT SOME OF THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURES, ONE IN PARTICULAR IS ZONED BY THE CITY. AND SO THAT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARILY STRUCTURE. I, I TAKE YOUR POINT. NEWER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. SAME THOUGH. I MEAN, THOSE HAVE NO, THERE IS NO LEGAL IMPEDIMENT TO THEM SERVING AS A COCKTAIL LOUNGE. NO, BUT THEY'RE LOT OF THE HOUSES ON 12TH STREET ARE VERY SMALL FOOTPRINT AND TWO STORY. SO I WOULDN'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE NECESSARILY CONVERT TO A BAR ANYTIME SOON, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY THAT SOMEONE WOULDN'T MAKE THAT ECONOMIC DECISION. HOW DOES THE, HOW, BUT THE SIZE, IT SEEMS LIKE JUST EYEBALLING IT AND SIZE IS NOT, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT MY FORTE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURES ALONG 12 ARE COMPARABLE TO THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURES ALONG RAINY. MANY OF WHICH HAVE BECOME BARS. I, I WANNA SAY I'VE NOT BEEN TO RAINY STREET TO A BAR THERE. SO I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU, I MEAN, THEY'RE RELATIVELY SMALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT HAVE CONVERTED INTO BARS, BUT THEY DO TEND TO HAVE TWO STORY, MOSTLY ONE STORY AND THEY DO TEND TO HAVE LARGER SETBACKS THAN SOME OF THE HOUSES ON 12TH STREET. SO YOU GET THE FRONT SPACE OF THE HOUSE AS A THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE AREA. YEAH. BUT, BUT IN TERM, BUT IN TERMS OF SIZE, I THINK IT'S COMPARABLE. OKAY. SO THEN ON THE NEXT SITE, ON THE NEXT, WHERE YOU'RE SAYING, LET ME JUST PULL THIS UP ON MINE, WHERE YOU'RE IDENTIFYING THEM AS CONSTRAINED NOW IN LAVENDER, THOSE ARE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT YOU ARE IDENTIFYING AS CONSTRAINED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. YES. AGAIN, NOT LEGALLY CONSTRAINED, NOT CONSTRAINED BY ZONING, JUST UN THEY'RE NOT, [04:10:02] THEY'RE UNLIKELY IN YOUR ESTIMATION, UNLIKELY TO DEVELOP, BUT NOT REALLY LEGALLY CONSTRAINED OR CONSTRAINED BY ZONING. CORRECT. UH, THERE ARE SITES THAT ARE, ARE USES THAT DO CONSTRAIN COCKTAIL LOUNGES, UH, IN STATE AND LOCAL REGULATIONS, BUT I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FAMILIAR WITH THOSE. I WOULD DEFER TO LAW. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I THINK IT SCHOOLS, SCHOOLS, DAYCARES. UM, ARE THOSE REFLECTED IN THIS MAP? ARE ANY OF THOSE USES REFLECTED ON THIS MAP? NO. OKAY. ARE THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT YEAH, JUST FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, UH, THERE'S TWO ITEMS. AND SO COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO ITEMS FOR FOLKS, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN THAT'S BEEN RAISED THAT I THINK WE'RE HEARING ABOUT IT RELATES TO THE, UM, THE, UH, I THINK REMOVING OR CHANGING, IT'S NOT REMOVING, IT'S CHANGING, I GUESS MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT. UM, WHAT'S CURRENT CURRENTLY PROHIBITION ON BARS. SO, UM, THAT RELATES TO 85. CORRECT. OKAY. AND 65 WOULD JUST REFLECT WHATEVER IS DONE ON 85. IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK IT WOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND. OKAY. UH, URBAN RENEWAL PLAN, SUPERSEDES LOCAL REG ZONING REGULATIONS IN, IN INSTANCES WHERE THEY'RE IN CONFLICT. WELL, I GUESS MAYBE MY QUESTION IS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON IS YOUR AMENDMENT TO 85 OR IS IT TO BOTH OF THEM? 65 AND 85. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RELATION BETWEEN THE TWO ITEMS. I DEFINITELY THINK STAFF IS THE MORE APPROPRIATE. PARDON? I SAID, I DEFINITELY THINK STAFF IS THE MORE APPROPRIATE AVENUE. THAT'S FINE TO OFFER YOU THAT. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST NOT JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF TRISH LINK WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT, THE AMENDMENT SHEET RIGHT NOW WILL ACTUALLY AMEND BOTH. OKAY. THAT'S WE WILL ADDRESS 85. THAT'S WHAT I CALLED AND THEN MAKE THE CORRESPONDING CHANGE IN 65. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, ANOTHER QUESTION OF STAFF BEFORE WE GET TO A MOTION. YES. JUST ONE LAST QUESTION. UM, AND IT COULD BE, UH, LAW, BUT THERE, I THINK THERE ARE TWO CHURCHES IN THIS STRETCH AND THERE ARE ALSO RESTRICTIONS AROUND THE CHURCH'S PRESENCE, ADMITTEDLY. AND I ACCEPT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ALSO INDICATE THEIR OPPOSITION TO OPENING A COCKTAIL LOUNGE OR A BAR, BUT THERE ARE TWO CHURCHES. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. AND YOU, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THOSE CHURCHES? WELL, THAT WASN'T PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID. AND SO I, UH, IS IT, IS IT 500 FEET WITH THE, IS IT 500 FEET? I THINK MR. RUSSO ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN I CAN. I REMEMBER IF THE, UH, COCKTAIL LOANS WERE CLOSER AND 200 FEET TO A CHURCH THAT WOULD REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. 200 FEET. YES. OKAY. KEBO HARPER MEDICINE. DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I'D LIKE THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. PARDON ME? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIRD READING OF ITEMS. OH, I'M SORRY. I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG ITEM NUMBERS. UH, 65 AND 85 WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS SENT OUT, UM, BY THE AGENDA OFFICE, THE AMENDMENT REFLECTS, UM, WHAT WAS DISTRIBUTED ON JUNE 28TH WITH SOME ADDED LANGUAGE TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT WITH THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN. OKAY. THE MOTION IS TO PASS ON THIRD READING. WHAT WE PASSED ON SECOND READING WITH THE HARPER MADISON AMENDMENTS INCLUDED THAT HAVE THE 200 FOOT SEPARATION. THAT AMENDMENT THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT THAT I WAS GONNA BRING FORWARD EARLIER. I THINK IT WAS A, A MATTER OF PROTOCOL TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. DO YOU NEED ME TO DO THAT NOW? OR AFTER MY COLLEAGUES HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE OTHER? OH, WE, YOU CAN EITHER MOVE THEM BOTH AS A SINGLE AMENDMENT OR WE COULD ADDRESS THE 200 FEET TO RESOLVE THAT AND THEN YOU CAN DO THE SECOND ONE. WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? UM, LET'S DO THE FIRST ONE. OKAY. IN FACT, THIS ONE DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT AT ALL. IT'S JUST THE ONE AMENDMENT YEAH. ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S THE 200 FOOT. SO IT'S THE, WHAT WE PROVED ON SECOND READING PLUS THE 200 FOOT AMENDMENT. UH, THAT'S THE MOTIONS THERE. SECOND TO THAT MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER. AND SECOND TO THAT MOTION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON? UM, SO AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS THAT HAS INVOLVED A TON OF HARD WORK PUT IN BY THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD, CITY STAFF, COMMUNITY GROUPS, AND EAST AUSTIN RESIDENTS, WHICH MY PERSONAL APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. UH, WHETHER WE AGREE ON THE ITEM OR NOT, I REALLY APPRECIATE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTRIBUTION TO THE DIALOGUE. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I KNOW IT WAS, UH, AN EFFORT TO TAKE TIME OUTTA YOUR DAY. I CANNOT THANK EVERYONE ENOUGH FOR ALL THE BLOOD, SWEAT, [04:15:01] AND TEARS THAT THEY'VE DEVOTED TO THE EFFORT I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ON THE RECORD ABOUT THE CONTEXT OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH EMPHASIZING AGAIN, THE DECISION TO INCLUDE LIMITED CONDITIONAL USE FOR COCKTAIL LOUNGE WAS NOT UNILATERAL. MY TEAM CONDUCTED A ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WITH A PUBLIC SURVEY THAT GATHERED INPUT FROM PROPERTY OWNERS, RENTERS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND STAKEHOLDERS IN THESE TWO IMPORTANT CORRIDORS. WE PUT THAT OUT THROUGH DOOR TO DOOR CANVASING AND TARGETED ONLINE OUTREACH. UM, AND I CAN SAY DEFINITIVELY THAT THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT I KNOW WERE IN A GROUP THAT RECEIVED IT AND OPTED OUT OF COMPLETING IT. UM, WE EVEN MAILED OUT HUNDREDS OF HARD COPIES TO ADDRESS SURROUNDING 11TH AND 12TH STREETS. THAT EFFORT ALONE GARNERED OVER 500 UNIQUE RESPONSES. WE ASKED PEOPLE WHAT WAS THEIR VISION FOR THIS PART OF THE CITY? AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO SEE IS A WALKABLE COMPLETE COMMUNITY. AND PER OUR SA OUR SURVEY, 85% OF THE COMMUNITY THINKS NEIGHBORHOOD PUBS IN INDOOR INDOOR, NOT OUTDOOR INDOOR LIVE MUSIC SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON 11TH AND 12TH. I BROUGHT THIS AMENDMENT FORWARD TO ALIGN WITH THE NCCD, WITH THE VISION, UM, NOT ONLY EXPRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, BUT TO ENSURE THAT THE USES SUPPORTED THE GOALS OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES LIVE MUSIC VENUES. THIS IS A PART OF TOWN THAT HAS BEEN SEVERELY HARMED BY INTENTIONAL POLICIES LIKE THE SO-CALLED URBAN RENEWAL PLAN. AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT MISTAKES OF HISTORY TO REVITALIZE A MAJOR SECTION OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT ALIGN THE LAND USE WITH THE CULTURAL DISTRICT'S GOALS AND TO ENCOURAGE A MIXED USE WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PEOPLE OF ALL INCOME LEVELS. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION THAT CONTINUES TO SWIRL AROUND, UH, ABOUT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. I KEEP HEARING ACCUSATIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO OPEN UP BARS ALL UP AND DOWN 12TH STREET. AND THE FACT IS THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE, GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE WORLD, ALLOW A DIVERSE MIX OF USES, INCLUDING NEIGHBORHOOD BARS. THE ITEM BEFORE US WOULD ALLOW THOSE AS ONE CONDITIONAL AND I PUT EMPHASIS ON THE WORD CONDITIONAL OPTION AMONG MANY OTHER UNCONDITIONAL OPTIONS. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO OPEN A BAR, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE NEIGHBORS CAN ENGAGE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE PLANS ARE APPROPRIATE. THEY CAN ALSO NEGOTIATE TERMS. YOU CAN'T INCLUDE IN A ZONING CASE LIKE OPERATING HOURS, THOSE CASE BY CASE NEGOTIATIONS THEN END UP BEFORE A VOTE AT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. AND IF ANYONE DOESN'T LIKE THOSE RESULTS, THEY CAN APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL, MULTIPLE MEASURES, LAYERS OF OVERSIGHT, THOSE CASE BY CASE NEGOTI. I'M SORRY. I JUST SAID THAT PART ALREADY. THIS IS NOT AN EASY OR SIMPLE OR FRANKLY RUBBER STAMPING PROCESS. AND IT INVOLVES A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT RATHER THAN A TOP DOWN WHOLESALE DECISION BY COUNCIL. I DO THINK THIS EMPOWERS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DETERMINE AMONGST THEMSELVES WHAT IS, OR ISN'T WELCOME IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY. SO I HOPE WE CAN PUT THE FALSE CLAIMS BEHIND US. WE ARE NOT CREATING A NEW SIXTH STREET. LET'S JUST PUT THAT TO BED AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A FACTUAL BASELINE. UM, WHAT'S TRULY EXCITING TO ME THAT IN THIS MOMENT IS THAT THIS PART OF TOWN THAT IS SO NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, UM, FINALLY GET SOME LOVE. IT'S IT'S QUIET BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT SAID, I HEAR THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY SOME RESIDENTS, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO COME UP WITH SOME MIDDLE GROUND THAT OFFERS GUARDRAILS WITH THE HELP OF STAFF. WE CAME UP WITH THE MECHANISM THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE, UM, PRESENTATION THAT WE SAW BEFORE, UH, WITH COCKTAIL LOUNGE, USE A CONDITIONAL, OH, I'M SORRY. CAME UP WITH A MECHANISM THAT WILL STILL OFFER POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE, BUT EXPLICITLY BLOCKS ANY SCENARIO WHERE THEY'LL BE CONCENTRATED IN HIGH NUMBERS. SO I'M PROPOSING THAT SAVE THE EXISTING BUSINESSES WITH COCKTAIL LOUNGE, USE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR COCKTAIL LOUNGE MAY NOT BE LOCATED ON A LOT WITHIN 200 FEET OF A LOT. THAT ALSO HAS A COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE. THIS WILL LIMIT THE USE ESSENTIALLY TO ONE LOT PER BLOCK. I BELIEVE THAT STRIKES A FAIR BALANCE BETWEEN THE DIFFERING OPINIONS EXPRESSED ON THE ISSUE. AND I HOPE SO BECAUSE I PERSONALLY AM FIRED UP ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AND SEEING WHAT CAN TRANSPIRE WITHIN THE BLOCKS OF 16 AND 18 ON 11TH STREET. UM, AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO OTHER GREAT PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA COME OUT OF THIS, [04:20:01] UH, AND I'LL, I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING, I, I HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT WALK PAST MY HOUSE AND DON'T SPEAK TO ME. I HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO RIDE PAST MY HOUSE AND DON'T SPEAK TO ME. I VERY MUCH ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO SEE ME AS A PERSON, WHICH I AM BE MAD AT THE POLICY, NOT THE PERSON BE MAD AT THE POLICY, NOT THE PERSON I'M TALKING TO ANYBODY WHO'S LISTENING. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. IS ANYBODY ELSE SH PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM UP HERE, COUNCIL, OUR POOL. THANKS MAYOR. UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE NCCD HERE AND I'M DOING SO BECAUSE I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE COMPROMISE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON HAS CRAFTED, WHICH IMPOSES A 200 FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN NEW POTENTIAL COCKTAIL LOUNGES. I'M ALSO AWARE THERE ARE PROCESSES IN PLACE IN OUR CODE THAT ALLOW THE COMMUNITY MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO SHAPE ANY POTENTIAL COCKTAIL LOUNGE. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF IT HERE TODAY. STAFF'S ANALYSIS FOUND THAT 10 LOUNGES COULD POTENTIALLY BE APPROVED FROM THE IH 35 FRONTAGE ROAD EAST OF POQUITO WITH A 200 DIS 200 FOOT DISTANCE MITIGATION. ANY NEW LOUNGE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SEEK A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A C U OFFERS A MORE NUANCED PUBLIC DISCUSSION AROUND THE OPERATIONS OF A LOUNGE. AND THAT INCLUDES HOURS OF OPERATION, OUTDOOR MUSIC, LIGHTING, DUMPSTER PLACEMENT, AND SO FORTH. WE, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT MUCH AT ALL ON THIS CASE, BUT WITH THE PRESENCE OF TWO CHURCHES ON EAST 12TH STREET IN THE N C D A ANY NEW COCKTAIL LOUNGE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE SIMPSON UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AT LEONA AND THE FELLOWSHIP BIBLE BELIEVERS AT WALLER WILL REQUIRE AN ALCOHOL BEVERAGE WAIVER. AND THAT IS A PROCESS WHICH INCLUDES A PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL. SO THESE TWO PUBLIC PROCESSES GO ABOVE AND BEYOND ZONING AND THEY ENCOURAGE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON BUSINESS OPERATIONS THAT WILL AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. SO I WILL BE VOTING IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA SAY QUICKLY, UM, THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN YOUR DISTRICT OVER THERE. UM, COMPROMISE IS NEVER EASY, BUT I DO RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU AND YOUR STAFF DID TO GET HERE TODAY. SO THANK YOU ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO YEAH, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE CONVERSATION AND THE EVERYONE WHO HAS COME, UM, ON, ON A VARIETY OF POSITIONS RELATED TO THIS. UM, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MEDICINE FOR CONTINUING TO LISTEN AND, AND BRINGING FORWARD THIS AMENDMENT. I AM STILL NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW COCKTAIL LOUNGES AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN READ THE TEA LEAVES IN TERMS OF HOW THAT VOTE WOULD GO, WHERE I HAD TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT. SO I'M SIMPLY GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM A VOTE ON THIS. I THINK THERE'S MUCH GOOD IN, IN BOTH OF THESE ITEMS AND, AND REALLY SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE CHANGES OTHER THAN THAT ONE. SO IT, IT GRIEVES ME NOT TO VOTE IN SUPPORT OF, OF THE MOST OF THE MAJORITY OF IT, WHICH I SUPPORT, BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE INCLUSION OF THE COCKTAIL LENSES, SOME SIMPLY GONNA ABSTAIN. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, MAYOR PRO TIM. THANK YOU. UM, APPRECIATE ALL THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN OVER OVER MANY MONTHS NOW, UM, TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS AND, AND THEIR EXPERIENCES. UM, IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE'S SOME ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGES IN THE AREA. UM, AND I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO, TO WORK WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, TO ADDRESS, UM, THOSE CONCERNS. UM, I THINK THEY'VE RALLIED CONCERNS. I KNOW ENFORCEMENT'S TRICKY IN A LOT OF, LOT OF SITUATIONS. UM, BUT I THINK, UM, WE HEARD FROM ENOUGH ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT, UM, WE DO NEED TO, TO TRY AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME FURTHER STEPS AND I'M SURE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HYPER MADISON, UH, WOULD APPRECIATE EXTRA SUPPORT FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO, TO ADDRESS HER CONSTITUENTS, UM, NEEDS. UM, THIS HAS BEEN A, A TOUGH ONE. I, I HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT COCKTAIL LOUNGES. UM, I DO THINK THOUGH, IN THIS CASE THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HARVARD MADISON HAS, HAS WORKED HARD TO FIND, UH, A COMPROMISE THAT, UM, PUTS GUARDRAILS IN [04:25:01] AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S AMAZING TO ME THAT THIS IS THE ONE PIECE THAT WE'RE DEBATING OVER OVER THIS REALLY COMPLICATED, UM, SET OF, OF ISSUES. UM, SO IN THIS CASE, I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S JUDGMENT HERE. UM, BUT I, I WILL SAY THAT I APPRECIATE HAVING HEARD FROM EVERYONE AND, AND THE VOICES DID GIVE ME A LOT OF PAUSE AND, AND THIS IS A DIFFICULT, UM, DECISION. YEAH, I'M GONNA SUPPORT IT, MARY, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN IT COMES TO COCKTAIL BARS, UH, I DON'T GO TO 'EM CUZ I CAN'T AFFORD IT. YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY'S GONE OUT THERE TO A COCKTAIL BAR AND ORDER A DRINK, THEY'RE EITHER BETWEEN 10 TO $15 A PIECE. SO YOU GOTTA BE PRETTY WELL OFF JUST TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO GO INTO ONE OF THOSE THINGS. SO, UH, BUT UH, I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, ON SPECIAL OCCASIONS THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO THERE. MOST OF 'EM SERVE FOOD, YOU KNOW? SO, UH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. UH, IF SOME OUT OF TOWN GUESTS COME BY, I WON'T MIND TAKING THEM TO A NEIGHBORHOOD COCKTAIL BAR BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO SERVING FOOD JUST TO SURVIVE ANY FURTHER, UH, DISCUSSION ON THIS. I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. I THINK THAT THEY'RE, I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK. THESE THINGS ARE NEVER EASY. UH, I ALSO APOLOGIZE THAT OUR PROCESSES WERE SUCH THAT I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD TO COME DOWN HERE FOUR TIMES OR SOMETHING TO, TO DO THAT. AND THAT WAS AN ABERRATION HERE EVEN FOR US. BUT EVEN WITH THAT, UH, I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU'VE HAD TO DO THAT. UM, I'M SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE THERE'S OUR, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL PROCESS WITH THE CUP TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO HAVE A FORUM, TO DISCUSS WHETHER AND HOW THIS USE, IF EVER SHOULD BE, UH, UH, DEPLOYED IS I'M GONNA VOTE. YES AS WELL. LET'S TAKE A VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION IS AMENDED. PLEASE RAISE YOUR OR MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENT INCORPORATED. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, THOSE OPPOSED THOSE ABSTAINING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MEMBERS, UH, TOVO AND KITCHEN ARE ABSTAINING. THE OTHERS VOTING I THAT PASSES 9 0 2, UM, THAT PASSES ON THIRD READING, EXCUSE ME, YOU NEED THIS. I WAS INFORMED THAT IT NEEDS TWO VOTES, ONE FOR THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN AND ONE FOR THE ZONING CASE AND THE ZONING CASE HAS A 22.9% BALLOT PETITION. OKAY. DOES TAKE THE VOTE AGAIN, UH, FIRST WITH RESPECT TO THE ZONING CASE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. UM, MAYOR, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S STILL SOME DISCREPANCY. MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT A SECOND. YES. JOY HARDEN, HOUSING AND PLANNING. I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR. 65 NEEDS. ALL THREE READINGS IN 85 IS THIRD READING ONLY. SO I JUST WANT THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S TAKE THE VOTE ON 85 IS THIRD READING ONLY. I THINK THAT'S THE ZONING CASE. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED THOSE ABSTAINING 9 0 2 COUNCIL MEMBERS' KITCHEN AND TOVO ABSTAINING. UH, NOW WE'LL VOTE ON THE OTHER NUMBER. WHAT'S THE OTHER NUMBER? 65. AND THIS IS FOR ALL THREE READINGS. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RA THOSE IN FAIRIES. RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE WAS OPPOSED. THOSE ABSTAINING. IT'S THE SAME VOTE. 9 0 2 WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS' KITCHEN AND TOVO ABSTAINING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT GETS US PAST THAT. LET'S UH, SEE IF WE CAN PICK UP, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION AS WE'RE HEADING INTO THAT ITEM. NUMBER 92 IS THE APPOINTMENT TO THE SOBERING CENTER. WE HANDLE THAT ONE REAL FAST AND LET SOME PEOPLE GO ITEM NUMBER 92. UH, DOES ANYBODY WANNA MOVE, UH, THE, UH, APPOINTMENT TO THE SOBERING CENTER? MIKE, WOULD YOU COME HERE PLEASE? DO YOU NEED THIS? THOSE ARE THE CHANGES, UM, COUNTER TO, DO YOU WANNA MAKE THE MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 92, WHICH IS THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE SOBERING CENTER? I WOULD THANK YOU ALL. SO MOVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO IS THERE A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER POINT THIS SECOND, THEN CASH IN THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED AND ADAMS ON THE DI 92 PASSES. ALL RIGHT. LET'S [66. Conduct a public hearing and consider an ordinance amending City Code Chapter 25-1 to require parkland dedication for commercial developments.] LOSE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION. ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES. UM, I'M ON, I'M GONNA SUGGEST A PROCESS FOR THIS, WHICH I HOPE WILL KEEP IT AS, AS SIMPLE AS THEY CAN BE. UM, ITEM NUMBER, UM, 66 AND 67 ITEM NUMBER 66, UH, RELATES TO, UM, THE IT'S THE IT'S THE ORDINANCE ASSOCIATED WITH COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION. UH, THAT'S THE, UH, THE, UH, [04:30:01] COMING FROM, UM, UH, STAFF IN RESPONSE TO THE, THE WORK FROM MAYOR PRO 10. WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER THAT FIRST. WE'RE GONNA MAKE ALL THE AMENDMENTS TO THE COMMERCIAL, UH, ITEM WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THAT, WE'RE THEN GONNA CALL UP, UH, ITEM NUMBER 53. UH, AND, AND I THINK 53 IN, IN 67, UH, WHICH RELATE TO, UH, THE CHANGES FOR RESIDENTIAL, UH, TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN FORM WHERE THERE WERE CHANGES MADE TO COMMERCIAL. UH, ALSO TO ADD TO RESIDENTIAL THE EXTENSION FOR THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA INCORPORATE INTO THAT SECOND MOTION, ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE JUST MADE IN THE COMMERCIAL SO THAT, UH, THE TWO MOTIONS ARE THE SAME WITH RESPECT TO COMMERCIAL WILL MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, AMENDMENTS AT THAT POINT, WHEN WE HAVE DECIDED ACTION ON BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, THEN WE'LL CONSIDER THE FEE MATTER, UH, WHICH IS, UH, I THINK ITEM NUMBER 59, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO THEN ORDER. UH, SO AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE THE COMMERCIAL ITEM FIRST. UH, I'M GONNA PUT ON, UH, UH, AMENDMENTS, UH, THAT IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY INCLUDED THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT I THINK ARE AGREED. AND THEN I THINK THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR AMENDMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER OF VELA AND THE MAYOR PRO TAM MAY HAVE, UH, SUGGESTED LANGUAGE WILL HANDLE THOSE. UM, UM, AND AT THAT POINT, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THE COMMERCIAL WE'LL PASS THAT, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO RESIDENTIAL, INCORPORATE THAT WORK INTO THAT, MAKE WHATEVER OTHER CHANGES NECESS SAY, RESIDENTIAL, AND THEY HIT THE FEES. SO LET'S BEGIN, UH, MAYOR PROAM YOU WANNA LAY OUT THE COMMERCIAL? SURE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN AND CLOSE THE HEARING FOR COMMERCIAL PARKLAND FOR ITEM 66 AND MADE PASSAGE OF THE COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE, UM, AS IN THE BACKUP. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER, A POOL SECONDS THAT IT'S IN FRONT OF US, YOU CAN OPEN THE DISCUSSION IF YOU'D LIKE MAYOR PROTA. UM, SURE. SO, UM, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE INITIATED UNANIMOUSLY BACK IN APRIL FOLLOWING, UM, WORK BY THE PARKS BOARD THAT HAPPENED JUST BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. UM, AND THIS COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE INTRODUCES A NEW TOOL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UM, PROVIDE QUALITY PARKS TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND THOSE WHO WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, PARKLAND DEDICATION IS AN ESTABLISHED MECHANISM UNDER LAW, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE IMPACT OF DEVELOPMENT ON, UM, PARKLAND. UM, I'M PLEASED THAT WE'LL BE ABLE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADOPT THIS TODAY. THIS WILL HELP OUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE WILL ALLOW US MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO PROVIDE CRITICAL TRIAL CONNECTIONS AND SOME SMALL SPACES THAT WILL REALLY ENHANCE OUR ABILITY, UM, TO PROVIDE THAT QUALITY PARK LAND, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT FOR GREEN SPACE, FOR RECREATION, FOR HEALTH, UM, FOR COMMUNITY. UM, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, TO MOVING FORWARD ON THIS TODAY AND THEN I'LL HAVE COMMENTS ON OTHER PEOPLE'S MOTIONS AS WE, AS WE GO. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MAYOR PER TIME, THERE WERE, THERE WERE TWO, UH, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THIS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE. THE FIRST ONE WAS TO PUT IN LANGUAGE ABOUT THE, UH, UH, WHEN THE, UH, DETERMINATION OF THE FEE, UM, WAS, WAS MADE AND THAT WOULD STAY CONTINUING IN THE, UH, UM, AS IT, AS IT MOVED FORWARD FROM, FROM AT THAT POINT. SO IT WOULDN'T CHANGE DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROCESS. I THINK THAT LANGUAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN HANDED OUT. WE HANDED IT OUT AGAIN ON TUESDAY, IT'S IN BACKUP. I THINK THAT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO, TO ADD. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I AM. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE MISS LINK CONFIRM THAT WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY, UM, UNDER THAT SETUP, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY FILED, IF THEY DON'T COMPLETE IT BY THE END OF THE 45 DAYS, THEN THE CLOCK STARTS TICKING AGAIN. IF THE FEES HAVE CHANGED, CUZ THEY WON'T HAVE FINALIZED THEIR APPLICATION. MAY I PRETEND, UM, TRISH LINK WITH A LAW DEPARTMENT WHEN SOMEONE FILES THEIR APPLICATION, THEY HAVE 45 DAYS TO MAKE IT COMPLETE. IF IT'S NOT COMPLETED WITHIN THE 45 DAYS, IT EXPIRES. THANK YOU. SO YES, I WILL TAKE THAT AS FRIENDLY. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT BEING INCLUDED HEARING NONE OF THAT LANGUAGE IS INCLUDED [04:35:01] AND THEN THERE'S A DIRECTION THAT I ASKED THE, UH, UH, ACCOMPANIED. THIS WAS DIRECTION TO ENGAGE IN A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. THAT LANGUAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN HANDED OUT. UH, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT LANGUAGE BEING INCLUDED AS A DIRECTION HEARING? NONE THAT IS ALSO NOW PART OF THE, UH, BASE MOTION. UH, I THINK THAT GETS US TO THE AMENDMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON. I'LL TURNED IT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. I JUST HAD THE ONE ACTUALLY. UM, AND IT'S TWO AMENDS SECTION 25, 1 6 0 3. DOES EVERYBODY HAVE THAT ONE? I THOUGHT WE DISTRIBUTED IT ON THE DS. UM, THIS, WHAT ITEM NUMBER IS IT? OH, I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS A CONCERN? UM, IT CONCERNS THE FLOODPLAIN COMPONENT. I THINK THAT'S YOUR NUMBER TWO. YOU'RE STRIKING THE WORD. NOT, NOT MM-HMM OKAY. THAT WAS YOUR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, RIGHT? IS THERE A SECOND TO THE HARVARD MADISON AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. SO WE CAN LAY IT OUT TO DISCUSS IT. THAT'S NUMBER THAT, OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. UH, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT AMENDMENT. SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARBOR MADISON. DID YOU WANT THE FLOOD PLAIN? I, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR AMENDMENT, BUT DID YOU WANT IT TO APPLY TO BOTH RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL OR JUST TO COMMERCIAL? OKAY. YOU ONLY WANTED TO APPLY TO COMMERCIAL. AND ARE YOU ALSO BRINGING ONE ABOUT FUNCTIONAL POPULATION OR YOU REMOVING THAT ONE? UM, OKAY, SO YOU WANT THE FLOOD PLANE. ONE ONLY TO APPLY TO COMMERCIAL SAID COMPONENT COULD APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. IS STAFF HERE? I MEAN LEGAL, SORRY. AIR COLOR LOPEZ. SO, SO WE HAVE HARPER, MADISON AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO MM-HMM ITEM NUMBER 66. IT TAKES OUT THE WORD NOT, IS THAT A SECTION THAT WOULD APPLY TO BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL? YES, BUT I DO HAVE ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE AVAILABLE TO MAKE IT ONLY APPLY TO COMMERCIAL. THAT'S NOT NECESSARY. LET'S APPLY IT TO THE BOTH POLICE. THANK YOU. IT'S SO, UM, RIGHT NOW THE BASE MOTION IS NUMBER 66 AND THE POSTING LANGUAGE IS FOR COMMERCIAL PARK DEDICATION ONLY. SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM UP SEPARATELY. YEAH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IT UP UNDER ITEM NUMBER 53. GOT IT. OKAY. UH, MAYOR, I DON'T THINK THAT ONE'S BEEN PASSED OUT. I'M HAVING SOME TROUBLE FINDING IT. UH, BUT I GUESS KATIE'S OR ON THIS END OF THE DIVE, WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE IT. YEAH. IF YOU OPEN THE AGENDA IT'S LISTED. I THINK IT'S NUMBER TWO UNDER ITEM 66 FOR HER INITIALS ITEM NUMBER TWO. YES. BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING THAT UP RIGHT NOW. WE WON'T TAKE THAT UP. WE'LL TAKE IT UP WHEN WE GET TO THE ONE THAT IS BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS TO CORRECT. OKAY. UM, THEN, UM, OKAY. I, I AM WITHDRAWING MY AMENDMENT WITH RESPECT TO FUNCTIONAL ONE POPULATION BECAUSE, UM, IT DOESN'T DO WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA DO THAT I POSTED THIS AFTERNOON. NO, ONE'S NO ONE'S MADE NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT IF I'M JUST SAYING THAT I'M WITHDRAWING THAT OKAY. IS ALL I'M SAYING. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND THEN, UM, IF NO ONE'S MAKING THAT, THEN I HAVE A DIRECTION. HANG ON, HANG ON ONE SECOND GUYS HAVE HYPER MEDICINE I'M TRYING TO, WERE THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE TO THE COMMERCIAL? THERE WERE FOUR AHEAD IN FRONT OF ME. ONE WAS ITEM NUMBER ONE, ITEM 66 THAT SPOKE TO, UH, UH, ONE WHOLE FUNCTIONAL POPULATION. RIGHT? SO THERE WAS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE AND THAT WAS A SMALL BUSINESS ONE. AND THAT WAS UM, MEN'S SECTION 25, 1 6 0 1 TO ADD THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE. AND THAT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IS A SITE PLAN OR BUILDING PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT WOULD PRODUCE LESS THAN ONE WHOLE FUNCTIONAL POPULATION. OKAY. IS THERE INTENT TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT? IT IS. OKAY. YABO HARSON MAKES THAT AMENDMENT OR SECOND TO THAT AMENDMENT. YABO VELA. SECOND THAT, OKAY. DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. ARE YOU COMING TO ME? MM-HMM I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. HOW COME DO YOU, YOU HAVE FIRST CHANCE TO GO OUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DON'T NEED TO I'M NO, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD. UM, WE ALL KNOW OUR LOCAL AND SMALL BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING WITH RISING REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT COSTS. SO THIS AMENDMENT IS INTENDED TO HELP SAFEGUARD THEM FROM ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF ADDITIONAL FEES. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TIM, THANK YOU. UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, THIS TO TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION, UM, THAT WORKED AND I THOUGHT I HAD ONE, WHICH IS WHY I, UH, PASSED OUT. UM, THE AMENDMENT [04:40:01] THAT, UM, STARTED WITH EXCEPT FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT TURNS OUT THAT AMENDMENT AS WRITTEN REQUIRES THEM ALWAYS TO GIVE LAND, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT SO THAT WE COULD MAKE, UM, A SMALL BUSINESS, NOT PAY FEES, BUT IF WE NEEDED TO THAT THEY COULD BE REQUIRED TO DO LAND. UM, I'M GONNA ASK, UH, MY COLLEAGUES, IF WE CAN PLEASE PUT THIS INTO THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS, UM, THIS HAS ACTUALLY QUITE BIG RAMIFICATIONS, NOT SO MUCH FOR THE FEE PART. UM, BUT FOR THE LAND PART, IT'S A REALLY SMALL AMOUNT OF LAND THAT THEY COULD BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE ITS LIKE 0.094 ACRES, BUT IT IS EXACTLY THE RIGHT SIZE. IF YOU NEEDED A TRAIL, UH, BEHIND A STARBUCKS, ET CETERA. AND I WANTED TO ASK IF, UM, THE PAR STAFF COULD SPEAK OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CASES WE ANTICIPATE WE'D HAVE OF THESE AND IT MIGHT BE THE FLOOD PLANE. UH, WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION IF WE, UM, EXEMPT THEM, LET ALONE BE ABLE TO REQUIRE IT. SO, UM, MR. SCOTT, CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE EXAMPLES AND PART'S PERSPECTIVE ON THIS AMENDMENT? AND I KNOW THAT PART HAS WORKED WITH ME OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. UM, BUT THAT LAND IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMERCIAL. UM, SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THE ISSUE PLEASE. YES. RANDY SCOTT WITH PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, PART'S BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THE EXEMPTING, SMALL BUSINESSES IS LOSING THE OPPORTUNITY LIKE YOU DESCRIBED FOR CRITICAL CONNECTIONS. UH, WE DISCUSSED WITH LAW, UM, EARLIER TODAY AND, AND THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT NOT COLLECTING FEES FOR ALL SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT REQUIRING LAND FOR A SMALL FEW. UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES PROBABLY AROUND A DOZEN OR SO A YEAR, UH, WHERE A, UM, STARBUCKS OR A, OR A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT WILL GO IN THAT BACKS UP TO A CREEK WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, PUT TOGETHER A GREENWAY SYSTEM, A TRAIL CONNECTION. AND, UH, WITHOUT THAT ABILITY TO ACQUIRE LAND OR REQUIRE LAND, UH, WE LOSE THAT CONNECTION AND THEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER PROCESS OF ACQUISITION, WHICH SOMETIMES MIGHT BE AN UNFRIENDLY ACQUISITION OR IF A SITE IS FULLY DEVELOPED OUT, IT'S JUST A BLOCK ON THAT GREENWAY WITH WATER QUALITY PONDS OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW PEDESTRIAN ACCESS BEHIND THERE. SO THAT THAT'S REALLY OUR CONCERN ABOUT THAT. THE, THE FEE IN LIEU OF, FOR A SMALL BUSINESS IS ABOUT $4,000, UH, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FEE IN LIEU OF FOR LAND DEDICATION. UH, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST THAT LOSS OF THOSE CRITICAL CONNECTIONS AND, AND NOT HAVING, UM, HAVING THAT DISCUSSION EARLIER WITH LAW AND NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND A RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWED, UH, PART TO REQUIRE LAND ON THAT SMALL FEW, UM, IS, IS OUR BIGGEST CONCERN. SO I WOULD JUST ASK IF WE COULD, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN AND ONE THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT, BUT SO IS THE NEED FOR THE LAND IN THESE CASES. AND SINCE WE HAVE THE CONCRETE EXAMPLES, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT WE, WE BOOKMARK THAT FOR THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AND SEE IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK AND, AND APPROACH, IF WE CAN TRY TO FIND A WAY, UM, TO ADDRESS BOTH CONCERNS AT THE SAME TIME. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR SUBMITTING A MOTION THAT WAS CONFUSING THINGS. I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO, MAYOR, ALONG THOSE LINES. UM, I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY TO MAKE THE ACQUISITION WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME OR DOES THE LAND JUST SIT THERE IN PERPETUITY UNTIL WE DECIDE TO ACQUIRE IT? IT SEEMS LIKE, I MEAN, IF THERE ISN'T AN, AN IMMEDIATE PLAN FOR THE ACQUISITION, I GUESS I'M NOT FOLLOWING THE, THE CRITICAL CONNECTIONS COMPONENT. OKAY. UM, SO, UH, LIKE, UH, A IN DISTRICT ONE, UH, WALNUT CREEK, IT TOOK ME, YOU KNOW, A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS TO PUT TOGETHER ALL THOSE GRANT, THOSE ACQUISITIONS TO MAKE THAT TRAIL SYSTEM WORK MM-HMM . UM, SO, UH, AS THAT WENT IN AND IF A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CAME ALONG AND MAYBE IT WAS A, A MCDONALD'S CAME IN AND BUILT THERE WITHOUT A COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE ALONG WALNUT CREEK, UH, THEY WOULD BLOCK THAT OUR ABILITY TO GET THROUGH AND, AND HAVE THAT REALITY OF A SOUTHERN WALNUT CREEK TRAIL. UM, THE, THE, THE ACQUISITION, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE FUNDING TO GO AFTER ALL THOSE PARCELS IN A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR OR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS. IT, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO BUILD ALL THOSE ACQUISITIONS UP TOGETHER. SO, UM, KNOWING WHICH ONES WOULD GO, UH, TO A SMALL BUSINESS AS, OKAY, MCDONALD'S OR CHIPP PTE OR STARBUCKS IS, UH, HARD FOR US TO, [04:45:01] TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, KNOW, UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THEM, UH, IN PART IS NOT AGAINST WAIVING THE FEES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, UH, AND JUST REQUIRING LAND. BUT WE COULDN'T FIND THAT, UH, THE, A MECHANISM THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT TO REQUIRE LAND WHEN THERE'S CRITICAL CONNECTIONS, UH, WITHOUT REQUIRING LAND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME FROM SMALL BUSINESSES. UM, SO WHILE WE TRIED TO WORK ON A RESOLUTION, WE WERE UNABLE TO FIND ONE FOR THIS AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE THAT CONCERN OF LOSING THOSE CRITICAL CONNECTIONS. I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. SO DO I NEED TO MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION OR HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO HANDLE THIS? WELL, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW IS A MOTION AND A AND A SECOND ON THE HARBOR MADISON AMENDMENT, NUMBER ONE, THAT'S WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW, COUNCIL AND POOL. I APPRECIATE, UM, THE MAYOR PRETENDS SUGGESTION THAT WE PUT THIS INTO THE LIST OF ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED, UM, THROUGH THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND I ALSO GENERALLY SUPPORT PARKS TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC ACCESS SO PEOPLE CAN WALK THE TRAILS FROM, YOU KNOW, ONE END OF THE TOWN TO ANOTHER. WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE FOR OUR BIKE PATHWAYS. AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS EVERYWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS ANOTHER ELEMENT FOR, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS. UM, BUT IF WE CAN'T RESOLVE THIS HERE ON THE DIAS, I, I DO SUPPORT PUTTING IT INTO THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS FOR ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION AS WE HEART PROUD. AS IN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT TO A VOTE. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT NEED BRICK AND MORTAR. AND THEN TO RANDY'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF THEY CAN'T DO THE ACQUISITION FOR 10 YEARS OR 20 YEARS? I, I THINK IT'S, I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MAKE SMALL BUSINESSES WHO NEED ACCESS TO BRICK AND MORTAR WAIT UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE LAND. AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I, I THINK IMMINENT DOMAIN WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THOSE TEENY TINY, SMALL PARCELS, BUT THAT ARE THOSE SUPER IMPORTANT CONNECTORS. I DEFINITELY RECOGNIZE THE VALIDITY AND IMPORTANCE OF THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE CITY, BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE NOT OPERATING TO THE DETRIMENT OF SMALL BUSINESSES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT TO A VOTE. AND IF, IF IT DOESN'T GO FORWARD, THEN HAPPY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE STAKEHOLDERS TAKE IS ON THE ITEM. UH, MAYOR MAY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. THEY MOVED IN SECOND DAY. COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR TOOK PRO TIM. UM, WELL, I, I HOPE THAT, UM, WE'LL, UM, WE CAN OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND PUT IT INTO THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. I THINK THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IS WE GET, YOU KNOW, THE LAND GETS DEDICATED OR WE GET THE EASEMENT. UM, IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE WHILE FOR THE TRAIL TO BE BUILT, BUT THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GONNA BE. THEY CAN BUILD EVERYTHING THEY NEED FOR IT. AND, UM, OTHERWISE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THEY'RE BUILDING OVER IT AND THEN YOU CAN'T EVER GET IT. SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF, LET'S JUST PUT IT OFF TO EMINENT DOMAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS WAY THEY'RE ABLE TO BUILD IT. IT'S LITERALLY AT MOST IT CAN BE FOR THIS GROUP IS 0.094, WHICH IS ENOUGH FOR A TRAIL, BUT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ANYTHING MORE. AND FOR MOST SMALL BUSINESSES OVER TIME, THAT'S GONNA HELP THEM TO GET MORE PEOPLE THERE. ABOUT HALF OF THE, UM, INSTANCES WHERE THIS HAPPENING ARE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM AS IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT, AND THEY ARE SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR HEAD WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD PART ISN'T EVEN IN THE ROOM FOR THE CONVERSATION OTHERWISE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO ANY OF THE, OF THE PARKLAND, UM, YOU KNOW, PIECES. AND SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE MAKING THE, THEY DON'T MAKE THEM WAIT. LIKE IF THEY DO IT, THEN THEY KNOW, AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO, TO PROVIDE. UM, IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE WHILE FOR THE TRAIL TO BE DEVELOPED, BUT, BUT THEY KNOW WHERE THE TRAIL'S GONNA BE, ET CETERA. AND THE OTHER THING IS BECAUSE IT'S A TRAIL, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PROPERTY. UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE ON THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY AND PART WOULD WORK WITH THEM, UM, TO REALLY ACCOMMODATE THAT AS THEY DO IN ALL OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION PIECES TO, TO ADDRESS THINGS. AND IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WITH FLOODPLAIN, IT COULD BE THAT IT'S A PIECE OF FLOODPLAIN THAT OTHERWISE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN OR SOMETHING WHERE, WHERE YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE A TRAIL, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, THE CONVERSATION, UM, FOR THAT. SO I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENT IF I MAY. THE OTHER THING YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE APPLICANT CAN GO AND APPEAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, IN THOSE INSTANCES. AND THEN I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THE APPLICANT FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS CAN THEN MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER [04:50:01] OR NOT TO GIVE THE LAND TO PART. UM, BUT PART, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, CAN APPEAL, CORRECT PART HAS THE ABILITY TO APPEAL, UH, WHEN WE WERE REQUIRING MORE THAN 15% OF THE GROWTH SITE AREA, UH, THAT WOULD NOT APPLY TO NOT IN THIS, THESE SMALL BUSINESS SITES. IT'S THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WOULD BE OWED BY SMALL BUSINESS IS, IS, UH, 10 OF AN ACRE, SMALL, SMALLER THAN ATTENTIVE ACRE. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I REALLY DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OFFERING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THOSE FEW INSTANCES WHERE, UM, WHERE IT COULD GET TRICKY IS A, IS A GOOD COMPROMISE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE BOAT MAYOR. OKAY, WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER, YES, MAYOR. AND, UH, I'M A LITTLE BIT, UH, CONFUSED. UH, I HAVE A, A CONSTITUENT THAT IT'S A SMALL BUSINESS. NONPROFIT RUNS A BICYCLE SHOP AND HE'S HAS LAND RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE THE FUTURE TRAIL IS GONNA BE. THEY'RE GONNA BUILD, HE'S WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE THAT LAND FOR THE TRAIL TO GO THROUGH THERE BECAUSE HIS PROPERTY IS SO SMALL AND THEN THERE'S A PARKING REQUIREMENT. HE HAS NO CARS, NO VEHICLE. IT'S JUST A BIKE STICKERS GONNA BE RIGHT NEXT TO A TRAIL. BUT BECAUSE OF THE LAND THAT HE'S REQUIRED TO GIVE TO THE PARK AND HIS REQUIREMENT FOR PARKING IS KEEPING HIM FROM DEVELOPING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO IT'S, I JUST, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SOME SENSE OUT OF IT ALL IS, UH, HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK OUT? YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE HAVE BE, SHOULD WE BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH WHERE WE CAN EXEMPT HIM FROM HAVING TO BUILD PARKING? I DON'T KNOW. AND WHAT KIND OF REQUIREMENT THAT IS GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE WHERE HE'S STUCK. HE, HE DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY TO GO, BECAUSE HE HAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE THAT HE'S SUPPORTING FOR, UH, A TRAIL, BUT HE BEGINS UP THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, KEEPING HIM PROPOSING THE PERMIT. SO I, I, I'M VERY ALARMED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE, WE ADDRESS THESE TYPE OF ISSUES. WHERE ARE WE TALKING TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ABOUT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT COMES ALONG WITH THESE TYPE OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM MEETING, BOTH REQUIREMENTS, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM MAYOR? YES, SIR. WHAT YOU SURE IF THAT WAS QUESTION, BUT IF IT WAS, I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS A QUESTION OR NOT, BUT IF IT WAS PART DOES COORDINATE REGULARLY ON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS CURRENTLY, UH, WITH, UH, TRANSPORTATION IN THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD IN THE FUTURE ON COMMERCIAL SITES, BUT CURRENTLY WE DO NOT CUZ WE DON'T REVIEW THE COMMERCIAL SITES. OKAY. SO MAYOR YES. UH, WHAT WOULD IN, IN, SO THE SITUATION, THE COMPLEXITY OF THE SITUATION SEEMS TO BE THE EXCEPTIONAL CASE WHERE THERE'S A SMALL BUSINESS THAT IS A LONGER CREEK OR SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO A LOCATION WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO ADD A LITTLE PIECE OF PARK OR MAKE SOME KIND OF CONNECTION. IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT, THAT IS CORRECT. AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE THAT, UH, I CAN THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS IN YOUR DISTRICT ON THE, IS IN YOUR DISTRICT ON LITTLE WALNUT CREEK MM-HMM SO WHAT WOULD, AND AGAIN, I KNOW PRICES, YOU KNOW, MOVE, BUT WHAT WOULD EMINENT DOMAINING A SLIVER OF LAND ON THE BACKSIDE OF A PROPERTY LIKE THAT TYPICALLY COST. SO AGAIN, USE THE ONE THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IN WALNUT CREEK. I MEAN, WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO, UH, CONDEMN THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND ADDED TO OUR PARKS STOCK? I BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN APPRAISAL, UH, CURRENTLY, UM, WE'RE TEXTING TRY TO GET THE VALUE EXACTLY. BUT, UM, THE, THE, THE FEAR ABOUT THAT IS WHEN WE CATCH THAT IN THE PROCESS, UH, BECAUSE THERE, THERE, THIS IS JUST, THAT'S JUST ONE, BUT THERE'S HUNDREDS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT WE CONSTANTLY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE, UH, WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, GOING ON, WE'VE MAYBE CONTACTED THAT OWNER ONCE IN THE PAST, THEY WEREN'T WILLING SELLERS. UH, AND AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, WE HAVE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF AND THEIR, UH, WATER REQUIREMENTS, WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS, DON'T PRECLUDE US FROM MAKING THAT CONNECTION AS WELL. SO WE CAN'T LET THAT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOP OUT, UH, BEFORE WE GO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. WE HAVE TO SECURE THAT CONNECTION PRIOR TO THE [04:55:01] DEVELOPMENT GOING IN. CAUSE AS SOON AS I GET THAT VALUE, I WILL, UH, APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF COMING UP WITH THESE QUESTIONS PRETTY QUICK, BUT MY, MY CONCERN IS JUST, I DON'T, I HATE WHEN THE EXCEPTION DRIVES A RULE, YOU KNOW, IT IT'S, IF I, I SUPPORT KIND OF CUTTING OUT THE SMALLER, UH, BUSINESSES AND, AND TRYING NOT TO BURDEN IN SMALL BUSINESSES WITH ADDITIONAL, BUT I DO, UH, APPRECIATE THE NEED TO GET THOSE CRITICAL, UH, CONNECTIONS. I JUST DON'T WANNA END UP BURDENING, YOU KNOW, EVERY KIND OF COMMERCIAL REDEVELOPMENT IN TOWN. THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, LITTLE, LITTLE, YOU KNOW, 3000, YOU KNOW, 2000 SQUARE FOOT, LITTLE SHOP WITH ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, $4,000 IN FEES OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH, THAT'S JUST MY CONCERNS GUYS ARE OUR KITCHEN. UM, SO I THINK IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS THAT IS, IS, AS YOU SAID, AND OTHERS HAVE SAID THE DIFFICULTIES, HOW TO, HOW TO, UM, ADDRESS THE SITUATION WHERE WE WANT, WE WANT, WE MAY WANT ACCESS TO, TO LAND, UM, OR WE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE DON'T, THAT WE'RE, THAT THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS IN RELATION TO THE COST TO A SMALL BUSINESS IS SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID. RIGHT. AND THE ISSUE AND THE ISSUE IS THAT THE LANGUAGE. SO, SO, UM, SO LET ME ASK STAFF, WHAT WOULD, UH, IS THE IMPACT OF COUNCIL? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE IMPACT OF COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON'S AMENDMENT THEN WITH REGARD TO THOSE TWO ASPECTS OF IMPACT ON A SMALL BUSINESS, THE, THE PROPOSAL WOULD EXEMPT ALL SMALL BUSINESSES FROM DEDICATING LAND OR PAY FEE AND LEA. SO IT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO IT ADDRESSES BOTH ASPECTS OF IT. YES. SO, AND I THINK WHAT I HEARD THE MARI PRO TIM SAYING IS THAT SHE WAS INTERESTED IN FINDING A SOLUTION FOR THE ASPECT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL LAND DEDICATION ITSELF. IS THAT CORRECT? ERICA? SORRY. AR KELL HAS AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THE MOTION THAT IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL. IT IS, UM, AN EXCEPTION. IT WOULD BE CREATING AN EXEMPTION, NOT FOR A SMALL BUSINESS, UM, BUT FOR ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD PRODUCE LESS THAN ONE WHOLE FUNCTIONAL POPULATION. OKAY. OKAY. SO IT'S STRUCTURED IN IT'S. THE INTENT WOULD BE TO CAPTURE SMALL BUSINESS, SMALL BUSINESSES IF THEY PRODUCE LESS THAN ONE WHOLE FUNCTIONAL POPULATION. UM, AND THEN, UH, IF THERE IS LESS THAN 3000 SQUARE FEET, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PRODUCE A SITE PLAN. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE MOTION BEFORE COUNCIL. OKAY. WELL, I, I I'M, I'M CLEAR THAT, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, I COULD SEE DOING AN AMENDMENT LIKE THIS TO ADDRESS THE, UM, THE, THE POTENTIAL, UM, FINANCIAL IMPACT, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO FIND A SOLUTION TO STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE, UM, LAND. SO I'D, I'D RATHER GO IF, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AN EITHER OR IF WE CAN'T, IF WE CAN'T SPLIT THAT WITH THIS AMENDMENT, THEN I'D RATHER GO, UH, WITH, UM, WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TIM IS SUGGESTING TO FIGURE THAT OUT IN A, UH, IN THE, UH, IN THE WORK GROUP PROCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, I, MY SENSE IS THAT'S THE ISSUE, RIGHT? SO, SO WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LAND CAN BE ACQUIRED AND WE ALL WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE FEE ISN'T CHARGED WHEN DOESN'T, WHEN THEY NEED TO BE CHARGED. UH, I THINK THAT, UH, CATHERINE VALLEY MAKE A GOOD POINT THAT IN THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF THESE CASES, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE MOST OF OUR CASES WERE A DEVELOPER LIKE THIS HAVE ADJOINING TRAIL ASSOCIATED WITH THEM WHERE THERE NEEDS TO BE LAND. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, DO WE PRESERVE THE ABILITY AND THE SMALL NUMBER OF CASES, RECOGNIZING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE CHARGING A FEE IN THE LARGE NUMBER OF CASES? UH, THE ONE GOOD THING WE HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO START LIKE RIGHT AWAY. UH, AND THAT GIVES EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT THE ANSWER TO, TO THIS. SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS INTERVENING SEVEN MONTH PERIOD OF TIME. UM, I MEAN, I COULD VOTE EITHER WAY ON THIS. I'LL PROBABLY SUPPORT, UM, A COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, UH, ON THIS, SO THAT WE'RE DRIVING THE SOLUTION TO THE GREATER NUMBER OF CASES. UH, BUT ALSO THIS OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS CONSIDERED IN THAT, THAT STAKEHOLDER PROCESS, UH, WHEN IT, WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES UP. OKAY. AND JUST ONE FURTHER QUESTION, MARY, COULD YOU JUST BRIEFLY THAT, THAT FUNCTIONAL POPULATION OF THE EMPLOYEE DEATH TIMES ACCURACY RATE TIMES OPERATION TIME, TIMES PERCENT COMMUT FROM OUTSIDE TO BRIEFLY, UH, DESCRIBE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT CALCULATION IS? SO WE HAVE AN IDEA [05:00:01] OF WHAT THAT MAY NOT, THERE MAY NOT BE A BRIEF WAY TO DO THAT. I'M SORRY, BUT I THINK THE CHUCKLE IS HOW FAST YOU DELIVERED THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER. NOBODY UNDERSTOOD. YOU SOUNDED LIKE AN AUCTIONER. ARE YOU TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A FUNCTIONAL POPULATION IS? YES. OKAY. I GUESS THE, THE MOST BRIEF WAY IS TO SAY THAT IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT POPULATION OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. SO BASICALLY IT'S COUNTING HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WOULD OCCUPY THE NEW COMMERCIAL SPACE. AND THEN WE DISCOUNT BY THEIR RELATIVE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS PARKLAND COMPARED TO LIKE A FULL-TIME RESIDENT. WHO'S ALWAYS IN THE AREA, ALWAYS ABLE TO EXPERIENCE PARKLAND IN THE AREA. UM, SO THERE'S DISCOUNTS KIND OF TAKEN TO ACCOUNT THAT RELATIVE OPPORTUNITY. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THE FUNCTIONAL POPULATION IS, IS TRYING TO CAPTURE. AND SO WHEN THAT FUNCTIONAL POPULATION, WHEN WE'RE SAYING THAT BASICALLY THERE'S NOT A FUNCTIONAL POPULATION BE AS PART OF THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD BE LESS THAN ONE. AND THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY. LIKE THAT IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO IMPOSE THE, THE FEE. YES, EXACTLY. AND FOR A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 4,000, 250 SQUARE FEET. SO ANYTHING BELOW THAT WOULD BE EXEMPTED BY THIS, UM, AND THAT NUMBER WOULD CHANGE YEAR TO YEAR AS THOSE VARIABLES IN THE, UH, CALCULATION CHANGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS VERY GOOD. VERY BRIEF. I UNDERSTAND FOR TALKING TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO THAT ON 29 AND 30 OF WHICH WERE PULLED, UM, UH, THE MANAGER AND COUNCIL BAR TOVO ARE OKAY WITH POSTPONING THAT, TO OUR NEXT MEETING. DO ANYBODY HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT HEARING NON ITEMS 29 AND 30 ARE BEING POSTPONED TO OUR NEXT MEETING. OKAY. MAYOR, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT, THAT ONE OF US HAS PULLED THAT CAN BE JUST POSTPONED TIL CUZ WE'RE STILL PROBABLY, WE'VE GOT, UH, DISCUSSIONS AHEAD FOR LICENSE PLATE READERS AND FOR THE OTHER ITEMS AND IT MAY BE TIME TO JUST EVALUATE, PULLING SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT GOOD, BUT I WE'LL LET THAT SIT. LET'S DO THAT. THAT'S NOT INTERRUPT OUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE RIGHT NOW WITH RESPECT TO THIS CASE, CONTINUING ON IN THIS DISCUSSION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ALICE. OKAY. JUST, JUST ONE LAST THOUGHT. AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN WE CAN JUST DECIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WHICH WAY WE WANNA GO, BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO, TO TAKE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER MEDICINES AND AMENDMENT AND HAVE IT APPLIED JUST TO THE FEE? UM, AND THEN WE COULD DEAL WITH THE QUESTION OF, UM, OF REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO THE LAND ASPECT OF IT IN THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS OR IS THAT INTRODUCING TOO MUCH COMPLEX COMPLEXITY? SO THE QUESTION IS PENN, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE ARE ENTERING INTO THAT STAKEHOLDER PROCESS, COULD WE JUST SAY THAT, UH, THESE SMALL USE TRACKS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE FEE, BUT NOT THE DEDICATION REQUIREMENT, TRISH LINK WITH A LAW DEPARTMENT, IF COUNCIL CAN DECIDE THAT ONLY LAND CAN BE REQUIRED AND NOT THE LAND OR THE FEE IN, IN THAT INSTANCE. YEAH. IN THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE, CAN WE DO THAT? CAN WE SAY THAT, THAT IN THIS INSTANCE LAND COULD BE REQUIRED, BUT NOT LAND AND FEE? YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE MORALE IS. DOES ANY PORTION OF THIS HAVE DISCRETION FROM THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR TO SAY, FOR INSTANCE, IF ONE IS ADJACENT TO A LONG RANGE PLAN TRAIL, THAT'S EXPECTED THAT THAT ONE WOULD BE REQUIRED, BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR HAS THE ABILITY TO WAVE OR, OR, UM, DICTATE, UH, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A PROBLEM. SO EITHER EVERYONE, EITHER ALL OF THE, LESS THAN ONE FUNCTIONAL POPULATION NEED TO PROVIDE OR NONE, THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD COMPLEXITY MAYOR. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I ENDED UP WITH MY AMENDMENT. AND AGAIN, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SOLVE THIS AND NOT FINDING A WAY, UM, YET TO SOLVE IT, BUT FINDING MORE AND MORE THAT THESE CONNECTIONS ARE CRITICAL. UM, SO WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE LAND IF EVERYONE, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO DO FOR A WHOLE VARIETY, WHOLE VARIETY OF REASONS. UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S TRIVIAL. IF WE'RE EXPECTING, YOU KNOW, 12 CASES A YEAR WHERE WE WOULD NEED THESE, THESE CRITICAL CONNECTIONS, WE'RE NOT RANDOMLY PULLING WHERE WE WANT A CRITICAL CONNECTION. THESE ARE LONG, YOU KNOW, DETERMINED ROUTES WHERE WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT IN OUR LONG RANGE PLAN TO SAY, WE WANNA BUILD OUT, UM, THESE TRAILS AND, AND CONNECTIONS. AND SO, UM, ONCE YOU MISS THOSE, YOU NEVER GET TO GO BACK. UM, UNLESS SERENDIPITOUSLY YOU HAVE AN OWNER WHO'S WILLING TO DO IT, OR YOU HAVE THE ABILITY WHICH [05:05:01] WE DON'T GIVE PART OF THE RESOURCES TO GO AND DO EMINENT DOMAIN ALL OVER THE CITY, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING THAT FOR REALLY TARGETED, UM, SITUATIONS. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, USUALLY IT WOULD BE FOR THE LAST FEW PIECES THAT THEY NEED, UM, TO PUT TOGETHER AS MY UNDERSTANDING. UM, AND SO THERE, THERE IS A SMALL COST TO THE BUSINESS WITH RESPECT TO THE FEE, BUT THERE IS AN ENORMOUS COST IN TERMS OF THE CONNECTIVITY, UM, THAT WE LOSE. AND AGAIN, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A LOT, A LOT ABOUT THE FEES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. UM, BUT IT IS ULTIMATELY THE LAND AND THOSE CONNECTIONS IN PARTICULAR FOR COMMERCIAL THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS REALLY, REALLY ABOUT. UM, AND IT'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WE'RE, THAT WE WOULD BE TAKING IT'S, YOU KNOW, 0.0, 0 9, 4 WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM IF THEY WERE AT ALMOST AT FUNCTIONAL ONE. RANDY, DID YOU WANNA ADD SOME, UH, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE ACTUAL APPRAISAL AMOUNT ON THE, THE QUESTION THAT CAME IN, UH, BUT WE DO HAVE IN OUR BUDGET OF $500,000 FOR THAT ACQUISITION, JUST TO COMPARE THE FEE IN LIEU OF IS 4,000 AND, AND THE ACQUISITION FOR GOING THROUGH A COMBINATION PROCESS, WE HAVE MARK 500,000. IT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE. I MEAN, PART OF THE ISSUE HERE IS IF YOU JUST MAKE IT JUST THE LAND, AS OPPOSED TO FEE, THEN YOU COULD RUN INTO THE SITUATION. THE COUNCIL MEMBER RENTER IS TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE SMALL PART OF THE LAND RENDERS THE TRACK UNABLE TO DEVELOP, RIGHT? AND THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE, RIGHT? IN CONDEMNATION CASE, IF THE PARK DEPARTMENT WAS, WAS COMPELLING, THE SALE OF THAT, THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR NOT ONLY THE TAKING OF THAT, BUT THE IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPABLE BILL DEVELOPABILITY OF THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY. I MEAN, THAT COULD BE WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT IN THE PARKS CONTEXT, IF IT'S JUST REQUIRED OF IT, THEN, THEN THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT LAND. AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT COULD LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WE NEED THIS LAND WITHOUT REGARD TO NECESSARILY WHAT THE IMPACT WAS. AND IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT'S IN THEIR DISCRETION, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS SOMETHING WHY THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT COMES BACK TO US AS A COUNCIL FROM PROPERTY OWNERS SAYING, THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T FAIR, THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T RIGHT. AND I THINK THOSE TWO SITUATIONS HIGHLIGHT THE, THE KINDS OF ISSUES THAT WE HEAR FROM, FROM, FROM, FROM PROPERTY OWNERS. SO IT JUST MAKES IT HARD. BUT AS I SIT HERE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS. EITHER COUNCIL MEMBER, HARBOR MEDICINE. I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A, A RIGHT ANSWER NECESSARILY. THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT I'M TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, IMPLICATIONS BEYOND THE CITY LEVEL. UM, SO I MEAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I, I APPRECIATE THE DELIBERATIONS. I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE THE VOTE AND MOVE ON THOUGH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? YES. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, EXAMPLE. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE. AND, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY, UM, SOMETHING THAT THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS COULD LOOK VERY CAREFULLY AT IS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU NEED TO HAVE A RELAXATION OF PARKING, BE AN OPTION THAT, UM, CAN HAPPEN. AND, AND I THINK THERE WOULD BE PRETTY EASY WAY TO, TO, TO FIX THAT. AND, AND, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT, FOR THAT KIND OF SITUATION, WHERE WE WERE BALANCING THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE WITH THE TRAIL YOU'D BE PROVIDING, UM, THE MOBILITY. AND I THINK THAT COULD EITHER BE FIXED IN A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS, OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, SIMPLY WRITE UP AN IFFC THAT SAYS TO, YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION. UM, IT'S A LITTLE HARD WITH THE, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THEY WERE ALREADY VOLUNTARILY DOING IT AND, AND WHATEVER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS ON THE, ON THE DIAS. UM, BUT I, BUT I, I THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION FOR THIS. THIS WOULDN'T GO IN EFFECT UNTIL, UNTIL JANUARY. UM, SO WE WOULD HAVE TIME FOR THAT PARTICULAR EXAMPLE. UM, I THINK TO RESOLVE THAT FOR, FOR, UM, A SMALLER LOT SITUATION, BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WOULD KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE FIGURING OUT WHETHER TO, TO DEDICATE THE LAND AND WHERE TO DEDICATE, UM, THE LAND AS THEY, AS THEY GO THROUGH AS I GO THROUGH, UM, THE PROCESS I AND MAYOR, YES, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM GOING THAT WAY. I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE THE BEST WAY CUZ UH, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, HE'S PRETTY MUCH STUCK WHERE HE IS AT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT BILL PARKING. HE'S MORE INTO THE, UM, THE ENVIRONMENT AND, AND BUILDING TRAILS, THAT'S HIS WHOLE GOAL. AND, BUT TO GIVE PEACE OF LAND UP LIKE [05:10:01] THAT, AND THEN BE IMPOSED THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT PARKING ON THERE AND YOU CAN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT CUZ NOW YOUR LAND IS YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH LAND THERE AND YOU'RE TAKING ALL HIS COMMERCIAL SPACE AWAY. SO, BUT I, I, I COULD REALLY, UH, UH, WORK WITH THAT WITH YOU ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S A BETTER SOLUTION CUZ RIGHT NOW HE'S STUCK. YOU KNOW, HE WANTS TO PUT THAT LAND FOR TRAIL, NOT FOR PARKING. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU, I MEAN, WE COULD WORK ON THAT AS A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE, BUT THEN ALSO WITHIN THE BROADER, THE BROADER STAKEHOLDER, UH, PROCESS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, WOULD BE USEFUL CUZ WE ALWAYS WANNA ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO WANNA DONATE. AND IN THIS CASE, IF HE WAS BUILDING, WE WANT HIM TO GET CREDIT FOR THAT. CASA ALICE, I, I LOVE THIS IDEA AND IF Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON IT, I WANNA HELP. UM, BUT I, I AM ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF THE STAKEHOLDER WORKING GROUP. I JUST THINK THERE'S SOME NUANCE HERE THAT, UM, COULD HELP US AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IDENTIFYING ALL THESE DIFFERENT ASPECTS. OKAY. LET'S TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, AMENDMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON COUNCIL MEMBER AVE, UH, AND UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. UM, THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. IT'S THE BALANCE OF THE, UH, DIAS. I THINK THAT, UH, A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED. LET'S CALL THAT OUT. WHEN WE DO THE DIRECTION THAT SPECIFICALLY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS PART OF WHAT'S CONSIDERED IN THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. SO LET'S ENLARGED THE LANGUAGE IN THE, IN THE, IN THAT, WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET TO THAT DIRECTION, YOU HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT. ARE YOU ASKING ME OR MAY I PRETEND? WELL YOU HAD ONE READY? YEAH, I DO. OKAY. UM, THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS TO SECTION 25 1 6 0 3. UM, AND OH, THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE ONE WITH THE, THE KNOT. THAT WAS THE FLOOD PLAIN ISSUE. OKAY. IS THAT ONE YOU WANT TO MOVE OR DO YOU WANT THAT TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS? I'D LIKE VERY MUCH TO MOVE THAT ONE. UM, I HAVE SOME COMMENTARY ON IT, BUT OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED. THE, THIS IS AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THE STRIKES, THE WORD NOT BE CREDITED, NOT BE CREDITED TOWARDS FULFILLING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS ARTICLE COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER MEDICINE. DID YOU WANT IT TO JUST APPLY TO, OH, THIS IS THE ONE WHERE IT, IT WOULD NEED TO BE MODIFIED TO APPLY TO COMMERCIAL OR IT COULD BE PUT, IT COULD BE, WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED CONSIDER THIS AND ITEM NUMBER 53 AND IT COULD APPLY TO BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. OKAY. SO WE'LL PICK IT UP THEN. GOT IT. ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS YOU WANNA BRING? YES, I HAVE NUMBER, UM, THREE. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE TOPIC OF ADDRESSING THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS EXPRESSED BY HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AND WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. OKAY. SO LET'S WITHDRAW AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE DIRECTION FOR THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS, IT'S REMEMBER TO BRING THAT BACK UP AGAIN. THE AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT. YES, PLEASE. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, NUMBER FOUR IS, IS DIRECTION. THE CITY MANAGERS DIRECTED TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL FUTURE LOCATIONS OF BUS AND TRANSIT STOPS A LONG TRANSIT CORRIDORS WHEN REQUIRING LAND DEDICATION FOR COMMERCIAL USES ANYBODY OBJECTING TO THAT AMENDMENT BEING ADDED, HEARING NONE THAT AMENDMENT IS ADDED, UH, TO, UH, THIS ITEM. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS TO THIS MAYOR PROTE? UM, I HAVE DIRECTION, UM, TO CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK TO US AT THE SEPTEMBER 29TH MEETING WITH ACTION NECESSARY TO ADD THE TWO FTES, UM, AND UPDATE THE PAR BUDGET TO IMPLEMENT COMMERCIAL PLD. OKAY. ANYBODY? OBJECTION. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION? AND JUST TO CLARIFY FOR EVERYONE ELSE, UM, THE, UH, PLD FUNDS PAY FOR THE POSITIONS AS THEY DO FOR OTHER FEES. SO IT'S, IT'S LARGELY NOT A GENERAL FUND, UM, AMENDMENT. I WILL LET YOU DECIDE ABOUT THE $12,000 OR SO THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE COMPUTERS, ET CETERA, HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE IT. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT AMENDMENT BEING ADDED HEARING ON THAT AMENDMENT IS ADDED WHILE WE'RE HERE. WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY ADDED THE DIRECTION TO THIS, TO ENGAGE IN THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. AND IT WAS GENERAL LANGUAGE, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. UH, I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO AMEND THAT LANGUAGE TO SAY, UH, THIS STAKEHOLDER PROCESS SHOULD CONSIDER, BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO, UH, THE, THE SUBJECT NATURE OF WHAT WAS, UH, HARPER, MADISON AMENDMENT, UH, ONE AND HARPER, MADISON, UH, AMENDMENT THREE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT SHOULD BE ADLER AMENDMENT TWO, WHICH WAS THE ONE THAT WAS HANDED OUT PREVIOUSLY, NOT TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT URGING IT, IT WAS THE ONE THAT SAID FIGURE OUT [05:15:01] HOW TO MAKE IT SO THAT THE PAYMENT MIGHT BE LATER IN THE PROCESS. UM, SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STAKEHOLDERS CONSIDER THAT, DOES ANYBODY OBJECT TO ADDING THOSE SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS TO BE CONSIDERED IN INCLUDING THOSE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THOSE ITEMS, HEARING NONE. THOSE ITEMS ARE ALSO INCLUDED, UH, ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS TO THIS ITEM ON, UM, THE COMMERCIAL PARKING, UH, COMMERCIAL PARK LAND DEDICATION. LET'S TAKE A VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED, UH, UNANIMOUS ON THE, UH, DAIS. GOOD JOB. LET'S STICK WITH THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF WE TAKE A QUICK BREAK HERE, UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, [53. Approve an ordinance amending City Code Chapter 25-1 relating to residential and commercial parkland dedication regulations, waiving the requirements of City Code Sections 25-1-501 (Initiation of Amendment) and 25-1-502 (Amendment; Review) related to Planning Commission review and public hearing requirements and providing direction regarding administrative rules implementing parkland dedication Code regulations.] THE NEXT ITEM. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 53, UH, WHICH IS, UM, UH, LISTED AS BEING AN AMENDMENT TO CONSIDER BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE IT'S ITEM NUMBER 53. UM, IT IS, UH, VERSION TWO. I THINK THAT'S IN, UH, BACKUP AND LISTED AS THE, UH, AMENDMENT, IF THERE'S A SECOND I'LL I'LL WALK US THROUGH THE PROCESS ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON SECONDS, THAT COLLEAGUES, I WOULD FIRST SUGGEST THAT THAT WHAT 53 DOES IS IT HAS ALL THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD. COULD YOU CONCLUDE PUBLIC HEARING ON 67 BEFORE YOU DO THAT? OKAY. LET'S OPENING LET'S LET'S WE ALREADY HAD LET'S LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 67, ITEM 67, WHICH WAS THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ON COMMERCIAL. UM, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO, UH, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING HEARING? NO OBJECTION ON THE DAY AS THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. OKAY. NOW ITEM 53, WHICH HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. FIRST THING COLLEAGUES IS, UH, UH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE INCORPORATE INTO THIS, UH, BASE MOTION, WHICH HAS BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE A SECOND GO IN COMMERCIAL SO THAT WE'RE NOT PASSING ANYTHING THAT DIFFERS FROM WHAT WE JUST PASSED. IS THERE AN OBJECTION TO THAT HEARING? NONE, THOSE CHANGES ARE, ARE MADE, UH, COLLEAGUES, UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, UH, THE ITEM THAT IS, UH, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU AS THE BASE MOTION. THIS ALREADY INCLUDES THE AMENDMENT WITH RESPECT TO, UH, EXEMPTING AFFORDABLE DWELLING UNITS AS LINE 75 TO 79. SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THIS MOTION, THE, UM, UH, LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO CALCULATING THE FEE, UH, THAT WE PUT INTO THE COMMERCIAL SECTION IS ALSO HERE IT'S LINES 5 29 THROUGH, UM, UH, 5 38. UM, SO THAT LANGUAGE, UM, UH, IS ALREADY IN THE, UH, BASE MOTION. UH, I'D WANT TO, UH, ADD NOW AS CONCERNS THIS THE SAME DIRECTION WE DID JUST A MOMENT AGO, UH, JUST IN CASE TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT DIRECTION JUST DIDN'T RELATE TO COMMERCIAL. IT ALSO RELATES TO RESIDENTIAL. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION WITH THAT HEARING NONE THAT DIRECTION, UH, IS, UH, IS, UH, MAYOR. YES, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION, BUT THERE IS A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE BECAUSE ONE DOESN'T HAPPEN UNTIL JANUARY AND ONE HAPPENS IN OCTOBER. SO IT'S HAVE, HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT. OH, OKAY. THAT CHANGE YET, BUT, UM, WE NEED TO PUT IN THAT CHANGE AS WELL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO NO OBJECTION TO THEN PUTTING IN THE, THE DIRECTION, UH, AS WE ADOPTED EARLIER WITH THOSE ADDITIONS, SO THAT THE DIRECTION PERTAINS BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, THE NEXT CHANGE, UH, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST TO YOU IS THAT WE HAVE LEFT OUT A, UH, UH, AN APPLICABILITY DATE, UH, AS CONCERNS, UM, UH, THIS, UM, SO WE NEED TO MODIFY, UH, 25 DASH ONE DASH 6 0 1 TO ADD A NEW SUBSECTION F TO READ THAT IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, ACCEPT IT SET OUT IN F TWO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SHALL COMPLY WITH THIS ARTICLE ON OR AFTER JANUARY 1ST AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT B UH, TWO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OPPOSING A HOTEL MOTEL USE SHALL COMPLY WITH ITS ARTICLE FOR RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE HOTEL MOTEL USE ANY OBJECTION TO INCLUDING THAT? YES. UM, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT AS WRITTEN THAT, UM, THE PART TWO ONLY APPLIES IN THE INTERIM UP TILL JANUARY 1ST FOR THE MOTEL HOTEL, IS THAT CORRECT FOR THE HOTEL? MOTU YES. WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT'S ACCEPTANCE MEDICINE ON OR BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST. OKAY. YEAH. [05:20:02] SO DO WE SAY THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PROSING HOTEL USE AND COMPLY WITH THIS ARTICLE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE HOTEL MOTEL USE UP TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2022, UP TO IT, INCLUDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2022 ON OR BEFORE WOULD WORK. OKAY. ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? BE INCLUDED HEARING NONE THAT CHANGE IS, UH, ALSO INCLUDED. UM, THOSE ARE ALL THE CHANGES THAT I FELT WE NEEDED TO MAKE COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON. DO YOU WANNA BRING UP NOW YOUR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, UH, THAT RELATES TO BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, YOU BET. UM, SO I'VE ALREADY SORT OF LAID OUT THE AMENDMENT. IT JUST CHANGES THE WORD, UM, NOT, UH, AND THE RATIONALE FOR IT. UM, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME FOR? YEAH. OKAY. SO OUR CURRENT CODE ALLOWS PARTIAL CREDIT ONLY FOR 100 YEAR FLIP PLANE. SO WHAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO IS ALLOW PARTIAL CREDIT FOR THE 25 YEAR FLIP PLANE. UH, WE'VE DONE A LITTLE DIGGING AND FOUND OUT THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF REALLY GREAT PARKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT UTILIZE LAND WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN. UM, EXAMPLES INCLUDE ALMOST PARK AND GOLF COURSE DOWN IN SAN ANTONIO AND SMA RIVERFRONT PARK AND CINCINNATI. BOTH OF THOSE PARKS OFFER POPULAR PUBLIC GATHERING PLACES WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, PROVIDING CREATIVE FLOOD MITIGATION STRATEGIES FOR THOSE CITIES HERE IN AUSTIN, ONION CREEK PARK IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH FLOOD PLAIN PRONE LAND THAT CANNOT BE SAFELY USED FOR HOUSING OR OTHER USES. UM, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD INCENTIVIZE THE DEDICATION OF LAND OVER FEE AND LOOP. IT WILL STILL ALLOW OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEDICATION OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD, PLAIN. IT WILL PROTECT ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE LAND AND COULD ALSO ASSIST IN PROVIDING THOSE CREATIVE FLOOD MITIGATION SOLUTIONS THAT THOSE OTHER CITIES HAVE PUT INTO PLACE. SO, UH, WHAT'S MORE, OUR HOUSING AND PLANNING STAFF HAVE COMMUNICATED THAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD IMPROVE THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE ORDINANCE. UM, SO I, I REALLY DO SEE IT AS A WIN-WIN ALL AROUND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND TO THIS AMENDMENT? THAT'S MY POINT. THE SECOND AMENDMENT DISCUSSION MAYOR BROUGHT THEM. THANK YOU. UM, SO I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN, UM, LAND IN THE FLOOD PLAIN CAN BE USED FOR, UM, PARKS. UM, I WANNA OFFER A SLIGHT ALTERNATIVE WAY OF GETTING TO THE SAME THING BECAUSE WE DO IN FACT ALREADY ALLOW FOR CREDIT, UM, IN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE, IT'S FURTHER DOWN, UM, IN THE ORDINANCE IT'S IN, UM, SECTION D OF 25 1 6 0 3, WHICH IS, UM, UH, REPRODUCED FOR YOU ON MY MOTION SHEET, UM, WHERE IT SAYS THAT LAND IDENTIFIED ON THE DEFICIENT PARKLAND AREA MAP MAINTAINED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT DOES NOT OTHERWISE COMPLY WITH THE STANDARDS FOR PARKLAND. DEDICATION MAY BE ACCEPTED AS DEDICATED PARKLAND. IF THE DIRECTOR DETERMINES THAT THE LAND WILL PROVIDE RECREATIONAL OR EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY IN THIS EVENT, 50% OF THE ACREAGE MAY BE CREDITED TOWARD FULFILLING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ARTICLE. UM, SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS INSTEAD OF DELETING THE KNOT THAT WE SAY THE LAND WITHIN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLAN MAY NOT BE CREDITED TOWARD FULFILLING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS ARTICLE, UNLESS IT COMPLIES WITH SECTION 25 1 6 0 3 D. UM, BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU DON'T WANT THE FLOOD PLAN CAN BE DANGEROUS. UM, OTHER KINDS OF THINGS, UM, I CAN LET, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE, UM, STAFF SPEAK MORE TO THAT. UM, IF WE NEED FURTHER EXPLANATION, I'M HOPING THAT WILL BE, BE FRIENDLY. THIS DOES, UM, HAVE AN EFFECT OF ADDING MORE CERTAINTY AND MORE CLARITY FOR THAT BEING POSSIBLE FOR THE 25 YEAR FLOOD. UM, BUT THE PRACTICE HAS BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT IS A FLOOD PLANE THAT ADDS TO THE RECREATIONAL ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY WOULD ACCEPT THAT FOR CREDIT. I, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS I AT AND MAYBE HARD COULD HELP ME OR STAFF JUST GENERALLY CAN HELP ME WITH THIS. MY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, THE ALTERNATE AMENDMENT MAKES THE INTENT OF MY AMENDMENT IN OPERATIVE. SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD LIMIT THE ABILITY FOR THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE TO RECEIVE CREDIT FOR DEDICATION, WHICH AGAIN IS COUNTER TO THE INTENT OF MY AMENDMENT. UM, STAFF CAN SPEAK TO THAT. I KNOW, I HOPE SO. SO THE ALTERNATE AMENDMENT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE WAY SHE JUST READ IT WOULD STILL ALLOW US TO PROVIDE CREDIT IN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLAN. IT WOULD JUST, UH, PROVIDE MORE CERTAINTY. SO THE CROSSING OUT NOT CREATES A SORT OF AMBIGUITY, HOW MUCH CREDIT CAN WE GIVE THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLAN IN WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES, RIGHT? AND THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT REFERS DOWN TO, UH, D WHICH SPECIFICALLY LAYS OUT IF THERE'S EDUCATIONAL AND RECREATIONAL VALUE. I THINK THE OTHER, UM, CONCERNS THAT STAFF HAS IS THAT IT [05:25:02] COULD, WE DON'T WANT TO BE CREDITING LAND THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS OR HAZARDOUS FOR THE PUBLICS. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE LAND THAT WE'RE ACCEPTING FOR PARK LAND AND CREDITING IS ACCESSIBLE, ADA ACCESSIBLE. IT'S NOT PRONE TO FLOODING. IT'S NOT PRONE TO EROSION. IT'S NOT DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE TO BE OCCUPIED. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT D IT KIND OF LAYS OUT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, SORT OF FUNCTIONALLY PARKLAND, WE CAN PROVIDE CREDIT TO IT. THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING THOUGH, IS COULD YOU DEFINITIVELY SAY THAT IT WON'T SEVERELY IMPACT THE ABILITY TO, UM, COLLECT THOSE FEES FOR 25 YEAR FLOODPLAIN? IT WOULD NOT KNOW. IT WOULD JUST MAKE, PROVIDE MORE CLARITY TO THE APPLICANT TO SAY, IF YOUR LAND PROVIDES THESE RECREATIONAL VALUES, THESE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IS NOT DANGEROUS FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE OCCUPYING. WE COULD CERTAINLY GIVE CREDIT TOWARD THOSE. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT D I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF US HAS BEEN SECONDARY, FURTHER DISCUSSION. THAT'S RATHER, UH, WAIT, ARE WE ON THE, DO I NEED TO MAKE MY MOTION? OKAY. THEN I'D LIKE TO, UM, MAKE MY MOTION. AS I PASSED OUT ON THE MOTION SHEET CALLED FLOOD PLAIN CREDITING COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR PROAM MAKES AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT CONSISTENT WITH HER, UM, MOTION SHEET, UM, ON FLOOD PLAIN CREDITING. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT, TO THE AMENDMENT CONCERN, PULL SECONDS THAT AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. YOU CAN ADDRESS IT FIRST, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU HAD OTHER THINGS YOU WANNA SAY, UM, AGAIN, I, I THINK I I'VE SORT OF SAID WHAT I, WHAT I WANNA SAY. I THINK THAT, UM, THIS PROVIDES MORE CERTAINTY AND MORE CLARITY. UM, IT REFERS TO A VERY SPECIFIC SITUATION UNDER THE CONDITIONS UNDER, UM, WE WOULD PROVIDE THE CREDIT. UM, I'M NOT, I CAN'T THINK OF AN EXAMPLE WHERE YOU WANNA GIVE CREDIT THAT WOULDN'T FALL UNDER, UNDER THAT. AND I THINK VERY BROADLY, UM, PART HAS, HAS, HAS PROVIDED CREDIT, UM, FOR THAT LAND, UM, IN, IN EVERY INSTANCE THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE SEEN WHERE, WHERE IT'S BEEN SAFE, UM, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME KIND OF RECREATIONAL VALUE. AND I THINK THEY HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NATURE HAS, HAS VALUE, UM, ET CETERA. UM, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT CAN BE VERY, VERY UNSAFE AS WELL. AND SO IT'S, IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE CERTAINTY AND, AND THE BALANCE, AND I THINK ADDRESSES, UM, THE CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED, UM, AND, AND REFLECTS ALSO, UH, PRACTICE WHILE MAKING IT MORE CERTAIN AND MORE CLEAR, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE LIMITED AMENDMENT COUNCIL. I HAVE A QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE THIS BEING PASSED OUT ON D WHERE IT SAYS THE LAND WILL PROVIDE RECREATIONAL OR EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. IS THAT INTENDED TO SPECIFY A REGIONALITY OR A CERTAIN TYPE OF ACTIVITY? OR COULD IT JUST SAY RECREATIONAL OR EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES? THAT'S JUST, WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE. I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP. SO, I MEAN, COULD I THINK SURROUNDING COMMUNITY CAN BE VERY LARGE, BUT I, I DIDN'T WRITE THAT. THAT'S JUST ALREADY IN THERE. I, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT COULD MEAN WHOLE COMMUNITY'S CURRENT CODE SWAY IT'S STATED CURRENTLY. OKAY. SO PART DOESN'T GO THROUGH AND SAY IT'S BENEFITING THE LARGER COMMUNITY AND NOT THE IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS ANYONE IN THE CITY. IT COULD BE WAY IT STATED OCCUR. OH, SORRY. THE MIC TURNED OFF. SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. UH, YES. UM, THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS STATED IN CODES WITH YOU, YOU READ IT OUT, UH, THERE COULD BE A, A EDUCATIONAL, PROBABLY ONE OF THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES THAT YOU MIGHT SEE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN MIGHT BE PLANT IDENTIFICATION, TAGS, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO WHERE YOU COULD, UH, EDUCATE PEOPLE ON TYPES OF TREES ALONG THE WAY, UM, THAT COULD BENEFIT THE LARGER COMMUNITY. UH, BUT IT IS PARTICULAR IN A, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY THAT HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO IT. SO, OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T BASIS OF PARKLAND DEDICATION, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE ARE NOT EXEMPTING SOME PEOPLE BASED ON THAT'S CORRECT. PROXIMITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. MY READ OF THE MERIT PROS EDITION, I MEAN, ISN'T IT REDUNDANT? I MEAN, SAYING C IS REFERENCING D YOU KNOW, C IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS A, DOESN'T IT JUST MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO. LIKE, IN OTHER WORDS, THE WAY I'M READING, IT SAYS 25 YEAR PLANE, UH, WITHIN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE MAY NOT BE [05:30:01] CREDITED. THAT'S HOW IT BREATHES RIGHT NOW, AND THEN D SAYS, BUT IT CAN BE CREDITED UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SO C JUST REALLY SAYS KIND OF CLARIFIES THAT, HEY, WE CAN REFER TO D AND ALLOW IT TO CREDIT. SO BY MY READ OF IT, THIS CHANGES NOTHING. I BELIEVE IT INGS CLARITY. I THINK THE, THE, THE GOAL OF, OF COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON'S, UH, WORK SESSION THAT I UNDERSTOOD WAS SHE WANTED IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS HARD TO BE ABLE TO CREDIT THE 25 YEAR FLOOD CLAIM. MM-HMM , UH, PART HAS BEEN CREDITING IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS, THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE SINCE 1985. UM, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WAS A, A WORDING THAT, UH, DIRECTLY REFERRED INSTEAD OF, UH, TAKING OUT, HAD A LANGUAGE AND CHANGING IT, MAKING IT MORE, UH, UNDERSTANDING FOR, I GUESS, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, UH, THAT WE COULD CREDIT THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE, MAYBE EVEN BRING SOME INCENTIVE TO DEVELOPERS, TO DO PLANT IDENTIFICATION OR NATURE TRAILS DOWN INTO THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE, WHERE IT IS FEASIBLE. UM, MANY TIMES THE 25 YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS JUST THE BED OF A CREEK WHERE YOU CAN'T ACCESS IT ON A STRAIGHT DROP OFF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MM-HMM, THAT SITUATION WE COULDN'T CREDIT THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE, CAUSE YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THERE OR ACCESS IT. SO THAT, THAT IS THE, I GUESS THE, I THINK BOTH AMENDMENTS WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING. UH, AND THAT WAS TO BRING CLARITY TO HEART'S ABILITY TO CREDIT THE 25 YEAR FLOOD. SO MY SENSE OF IT IS THAT FLOODPLAIN LAND IS SOME OF THE MOST ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AND, AND REALLY FROM A BROADER ENVIRONMENTAL POINT OF VIEW, SOME OF THE MOST VALUABLE LAND. UH, AND SO MY SENSE OF IT WOULD BE THAT I WOULD WANT THAT TO BE CITY LAND SO THAT IT'S UNDER OUR CARE AND CONTROL SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT IT SO THAT WE CAN CLEAN IT SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN IT SO THAT WE CAN. SO I GUESS I, I'M NOT REALLY GETTING WHY WE WOULD WANT TO EXCLUDE, EVEN, LIKE I SAID, THE BED OF THE CREEK. I UNDERSTAND THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT A BASKETBALL QUARTER, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN, IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF A CREEK, BUT CREEKS HAVE GREAT VALUE. I MEAN, MYSELF, I CAN THINK OF, I MEAN, THINK OF BARTON CREEK, FOR EXAMPLE, AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE EVERYBODY REALLY KIND OF HANGS OUT AND, AND PLAYS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CREEK, I'VE GONE WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH MY KIDS, YOU KNOW, GO, YOU KNOW, TAD POLES AND, AND, AND, AND MINNOWS AND FIREFLIES. AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT TO ME IS SOME OF VERY ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE, BUT ALSO SO RICH IN RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. SO TO ME, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT WITHIN OUR KIND OF OUR PARTS LAND. UH, AGAIN, KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH IT. AND IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IN, IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT, I MEAN, WHY DO WE WANNA EXCLUDE IT TO BE CLEAR? WE, WE DO NOT WANT TO EXCLUDE THAT. AND I THINK THOSE EXAMPLES THAT YOU GAVE ARE, ARE GREAT EXAMPLES WHERE WE WOULD CREDIT THE 25 YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN, UH, MAYBE SOMETHING, AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE WOULD NOT CREDIT THE FLOOD PLANE WOULD BE IN PO'S DISTRICT WHERE SOUTH, UH, BOGIE CREEK RUNS THROUGH HIS DISTRICT. AND THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE CONSISTS OF A, A PAD OF CONCRETE AT THE BOTTOM OF BOGIE CREEK MM-HMM . AND WE WOULDN'T WANT THE COMMUNITY. WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT AS PARK LAND, AND THEN LOOK THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE EYES AND SAY YOUR PARK'S RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT CREEK. UH, SO I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THERE THAN SAYING, YOU KNOW, HARD MAY ACCEPT THAT, OR YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT MM-HMM, , UH, I, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPABLE LAND WHERE AGAIN, WE CAN PUT AMENITIES, BUT THE ECOLOGICAL VALUE OF THE LAND TO ME REALLY OUTWEIGHS ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AND I WOULD WANNA BRING IT WITHIN CITY OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL. SO WE CAN FIRST AND FOREMOST PROTECT IT AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY REMEDIATED IF THERE, IF IT HAS BEEN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MISTREATED IN THE PAST. UH, SO, AND, AND I THINK, I MEAN, I HONESTLY, I, I HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT WHICH, YOU KNOW, MOVES IT TO SHALL, BECAUSE AGAIN, TO ME, THIS SEEMS TO BE THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND. AND, AND, AND ON THE CONTRARY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT NOT ACCEPTING IT. I WANT TO ACCEPT IT. AND SO WE CAN LIKE SAID CARE FOR IT AND, AND, AND PROTECT IT. SO, I MEAN, I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. I, UH, I STRONGLY FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD MAKE IT EVEN STRONGER TO PUT A, A SHELL IN THERE, BUT I'M JUST, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW [05:35:01] THE AREA ENOUGH, UH, I MEAN, IN THE TERMS OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION TO, UH, UH, TO REALLY SAY WHAT THE DRAWBACKS, UH, OF THAT WOULD BE, UH, AND I MEAN, COULD Y'ALL WHAT WOULD BE AGAIN, LIKE, I, I, I JUST, I DO WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT, UM, USUALLY THROUGH THE PROCESS WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT DOES REQUIRE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT OVER THAT ENTIRE 2,500 YEAR FLOOD PLANE. SO, UM, IN THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME WE DO REQUIRE, UH, OR CODE REQUIRES IF WE ARE ACCEPTING THE 25, THAT THE ADJACENT HUNDRED BE DEDICATED AS WELL, BECAUSE THE, THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE, WHY YOU'RE CORRECTED IS VERY, VERY SENSITIVE. IT IS ALSO VERY, VERY LIMITED ON WHAT, UH, YOU CAN DO FOR RECREATIONAL, UH, ASPECTS OF USUALLY, MAYBE, UH, ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES WE WOULD HAVE IS TO, TO DESIGN MAYBE A TRAIL THAT GOES DOWN TO THAT CREEK, UH, AND JUST HAVE AN OVERLOOK, UM, AND TURN BACK AROUND AND LEAVE, UH, WHAT WE GET IN, YOU KNOW, TROUBLE FORESTS IS STUFF MAYBE LIKE MARTIN CREEK GREEN BELT, WHERE THERE ARE TRAILS ALL THROUGHOUT THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE AND WATERSHED IS CONSTANTLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WORRYING ABOUT OUR EROSION PROBLEMS. MM-HMM, , UH, YOU SORT OF TRAILED OFF TOWARDS THE END THERE. I'M SORRY. I, I MISSED THAT QUESTION. UH, YOU JUST SORT OF TRAILED OFF INTO THE DISTANCE. I DIDN'T HEAR THE LA THE LAST PART OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, BAR CREEK, LIKE THE LAST EIGHT WORDS I DID NOT HEAR. OH, BARTON CREEK GREENBELT. UM, YES, UH, BARTON CREEK GREENBELT, THE EXISTING TRAILS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THAT CREEK, UH, HAVE SEVERE EROSION PROBLEMS, UH, DUE TO THEM BEING IN THAT SENSITIVE AREA, THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE, UM, AND, AND CONTROLLING THAT, TAKING A WALK WITH WATERSHED OUT THERE, THEY WILL, THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW, UH, ABOUT THE ISSUES AND IT, THAT IT'S NOT A, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF RECREATIONAL IN THAT AREA. VERY POPULAR THOUGH. MM-HMM AND, AND I, OKAY. UH, THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT IS IN FRONT OF US FROM THE MAYOR PRO TAB. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? SORRY. YES, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER, HEART MEDICINE. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. I, I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND ALL THE DETAILS HERE AND, AND IT FEELS LIKE SO BOGGY CREEK IS EXISTING PARKLAND. SO IN YOUR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULDN'T APPLY, CUZ THAT'S ALREADY PUBLICLY HELD LAND, SO NOBODY COULD USE THAT FOR THEIR PARKLAND DEDICATION. SO I'M TRYING TO PICTURE AN INSTANCE THAT IS APPLICABLE. UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M JUST, I JUST, I FEEL LIKE FLOOD PLAIN LAND IS REALLY PERFECTLY ADEQUATE PARKLAND. UM, AND I DON'T WANNA MISS THE OPPORTUNITY. AND SO I, WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK THOUGH, IS, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY FROM WATERSHED WITH US TODAY? I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE ITEM MARKET ARE AND IF THEY SUPPORT SORT OF A ROBUST APPROACH TO CREDITING FLOOD PLAIN LAND, YOU'RE NOT WATERSHED ACM GOING SIDE. I KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING. UM, SO ANDREA BATES SAYS, YOU KNOW, FROM WATERSHED PROTECTION HAS RECENTLY MOVED OVER TO HOUSING IN AN INTERIM BASIS AS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. AND ANDREA JUST HAPPENS TO BE HERE FOR THE HOUSING AND PLANNING, UH, DEPARTMENT ITEMS. AND ANDREA CAN SPEAK TO IT. YOU ONLY THOUGHT YOU'D MOVED ON GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ANDREA BATES, CURRENTLY INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH HOUSING AND PLANNING. SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF WATERSHED, UH, WATERSHED STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE DEDICATION OF THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE. WHEN THE ADJACENT 100 YEAR FLOOD PLANE IS ALSO DEDICATED TO AS WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, BRING ALL OF THE FLOOD PLAIN LAND UNDER MORE CITY CONTROL AND ALLOW ADDITIONAL OPTIONS AND PROTECTIONS FOR THAT AREA. WE ARE NEUTRAL OR WATERSHED PROTECTION WOULD BE NEUTRAL ON WHETHER DEDICATING THE 25 YEAR FLOODPLAIN, UH, GRANTS CREDIT. IT IS MY PERSONAL UNDERSTANDING THAT DEDICATING THE 25 YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS REQUIRED WHEN THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN ADJACENT IS DEDICATED, BUT IT MAY NOT ALWAYS RECEIVE CREDIT DEPENDING ON THE, UH, FUNCTIONALITY OF THE FLOOD PLAIN FOR PARKLAND PURPOSES, THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE PARKLAND FOR PARK PURPOSES, AND DEPENDING ON THE ADJACENT A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN PROPERTY, THOSE TWO CONSIDERATIONS, UM, SIMULTANEOUSLY I WOULD DEFER TO PART STAFF. I DO NOT THINK THAT DEDICATING THE 25 YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS REQUIRED. IF THE [05:40:01] ADJACENT 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS NOT ALSO DEDICATED. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S SIMPLY TO AVOID HAVING A GAP IF THE 100 YEAR IS DEDICATED. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MY PROAM AND THEN COUNT MEMBER TOVO COUNCIL MEMBER. TOVO YOU WANNA GO FIRST? SURE. I JUST WANNA CAPTURE WHAT I THINK I UNDERSTAND IS THE DIFFERENCE HERE. AND I WANNA GET BACK TO SOMETHING THAT RANDY SCOTT SAID. SO WE HAVE A PROGRAM THROUGH WATERSHED AND THROUGH OUR LAND ACQUISITION, THROUGH BOND ACQUISITION TO BUY LANDS THAT ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE, THAT WE WANNA PROTECT FOR WATER QUALITY REASONS OR FOR ENVIRONMENTAL MEDIATION REASONS. AND THOSE ARE PRIMARILY HAPPENING THROUGH WATERSHED PROTECTION AND OTHER OTHER FUNCTIONS. THE LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCEPTING AS PARKLAND DEDICATION IS LAND THAT WE EXPECT TO FUNCTION AS A PARK. AND SO TO ME, THAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY WHAT I HEARD YOU DESCRIBING. I MEAN, YOU USE THE EXAMPLE OF BEING ABLE TO LOOK THE COMMUNITY IN THE FACE AND SAY, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS HAS THE ABILITY TO BE A PARK. IT IS, OR TO SERVE AS PARKLAND. IT'S DIFFERENT FROM, FROM TAKING THAT LAND IN TO REMEDIATE TO REMEDIATE IT BECAUSE IT HAS CONCRETE ON THE BOTTOM. IS THAT, IS THAT THE UPSHOT OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING WITH THAT EXAMPLE THAT, THAT YOUR FUNCTION IS TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE FUNCTION OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION IS TO TAKE LAND IN THAT WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO RECREATE ON AND TO ENJOY AND TO RUN ON AND NOT, UM, WE'RE NOT TAKING IT IN FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS OR FOR MITIGATION REASONS, ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION REASONS. YES. THAT, THAT IS CORRECT. THE, UH, THE, THE COMMUNITY IS VERY AWARE OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS AND, UH, THEY WATCH SITE PLANS AND SUBDIVISIONS AND ZONING CASES GOING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, MANY TIMES WHEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, UP ZONING A PIECE OF PROPERTY, UH, BUT CURRENTLY ALONG CREEK IN, IN HARPER MADISON'S DISTRICT, THEY, THEY, THEY, THAT BENEFIT OF GETTING THAT PARK, UM, IS WHAT ENCOURAGES THEM TO SUPPORT THAT ZONING OF, OF CHANGE CASE. SO, UM, YES, HAVING QUALITY PARK LANDS, WHERE WE CAN DEVELOP A FULL OF MIRROR OF, OF NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AMENITIES, THE, THE PLAY SCAPE, THE PAVILION, UH, THE LOOP TRAIL, UM, THE OPEN FIELD PLAY, UH, FENCING TO, TO KEEP KIDS FROM RUNNING OUT INTO THE STREET, UH, ARE THINGS THAT CAN'T BE DONE IN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLAY. SO THAT, THAT'S THE, OH, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEP ON YOUR WORDS THERE. I THINK I HIT THE MIC SHUT OFF A LITTLE QUICK. UM, THOSE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CANNOT BE DONE IN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE. UH, SO THAT, THAT'S THE REASON, UH, IT HAS A, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION TO CREDIT IT TO WHEN, WHEN IT RISES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHERE WE CAN, OR IT'S A, A CRITICAL, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE OR OFFERS, YOU KNOW, EXCEPTIONAL, UH, FLO FAUNA THAT, THAT, UH, WE WANT TO PROTECT. UH, THEN I THINK THAT'S AN OPTION WHEN WE GIVE CREDIT TOWARDS THE 25 YEAR FOOT PLAN. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DIFFERENT REASONS FOR, FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. AND THIS ONE IS ABOUT CREATING USABLE SPACE THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY. AND WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO EQUIP OUR STAFF WITH THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED THROUGH THIS POLICY ACTION, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND TO BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT IS NOT A USABLE AREA OF PARKLAND. AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER VALLEY, YOU ASKED, I'M NOT GONNA REMEMBER EXACTLY YOUR WORDING, BUT BASICALLY KIND OF WHAT THE DOWNSIDE OF THIS POLICY MIGHT BE. AND I, I MEAN, ONE DOWNSIDE MIGHT BE THAT YOU MIGHT END UP WITH HAVING TO ACCEPT LAND. THAT'S TOTALLY, TOTALLY INCAPABLE OF FUNCTIONING AS PARK LAND, AND THEN WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN IT. AND, AND IN ADDITION TO NOT HAVING SPACE, THAT'S USABLE, WE ALSO MIGHT HAVE SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH MAINTAINING THAT LAND OR DOING SOMETHING BETTER WITH IT. UM, AND SO I'M, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT, THAT, UM, PATH, THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. YES. THIS, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHERE EVERYONE'S COMING FROM ON THIS. I THINK WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS ON THE TABLE THAT ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THE NEED FOR PARK SPACE WITH SOME LAND THAT MAY BE USABLE. UM, I DO LIKE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON'S JUST SAYS MAY CREDIT. SO IT STILL ALLOWS FOR THE DISCRETION OF, OF PAR TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT IF AND WHEN THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SO I'M, I'M LIKELY TO SUPPORT THAT ONE IF IT'S STILL ON THE TABLE. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MAYOR, THAS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. GO AHEAD. I WANTED TO [05:45:01] JUST, UM, REITERATE WHAT I THINK IS ON THE TABLE. SO THE MOTION BEFORE US A YAY ON THIS IS FOR MY AMENDMENT, UM, WHICH STILL ALLOWS THERE TO BE CREDIT, UM, IN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE. UM, IT'S JUST PROVIDING ACTUALLY MORE SPECIFICITY TO SAY WHEN THEY CAN. SO WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE OF THE CLEAR THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WAS TO PROVIDE MORE CERTAINTY, UM, TO DEVELOPERS. AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE WAY THAT I'VE DRAFTED THIS, UM, ALLOWS SOMEBODY WHO'S READING THIS. WHO'S NOT REALLY DEEPLY SEEPED IN OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION TO SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THEY COULD GET CREDIT, UM, IN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE. UM, SO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HARBOR MEDICINES JUST SAID THAT YOU MAY DO IT, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHEN, OR, OR UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES OR PROVIDE ANY STRIKE, ANY OF THAT GUIDANCE. AND THIS IS AN, THIS IS A NUANCE, BUT I THINK THAT IT DOES PROVIDE, UM, GREATER CERTAINTY, UM, FOR, FOR FOLKS, UM, IN THAT REGARD FUENTEZ. SO IF WE, IF WE HAD, IF WE AMEND THE MAYOR PRO ATTENDS AMENDMENT TO THE FLOODPLAIN CREDITING AMENDMENT, HOW DOES THAT CHANGE? WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON HAS BEFORE US? IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE, I, I TOOK THAT AS, AS AN AMENDMENT TO STRIKE AND REPLACE. SO IT WOULD STRIKE THE LANGUAGE, OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER MEDICINE, OR REPLACE IT WITH THE LANGUAGE FROM THE MAYOR PROTE. SO I'M PUTTING THE KNOT BACK IN AND SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT UNLESS YOU MEET THESE CRITERIA, UM, THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THE NEXT BULLET. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A NUANCE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, I INTENDED THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE CERTAINTY AND THE, THE, UM, INFORMATION TO THE DEVELOPERS IN A VERY CLEAR WAY AS TO UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES WE WOULD CONSIDER PROVIDING THEM, UM, WITH THE PARTIAL CREDIT. AND IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IF WE SAY, MAY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA JUST LEAVE THAT OPEN AND BE MORE CONFUSING. UM, AND, AND SO I WASN'T SURE IF THAT, BECAUSE THERE WAS, SEEMED TO BE CONFUSION OVER WHAT WE DID AND WE DIDN'T DO, I PROVIDED YOU WITH THE OTHER CODE PARTS, YOU COULD SEE WHERE YOU CAN DO IT. AND, AND THIS JUST LEGALLY AND GRAMMATICALLY AND SUBSTANTIVELY I THINK PROVIDES, UM, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN MY VIEW. OKAY. SO THAT, I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR OUR STAFF HERE. I MEAN, IF Y'ALL COULD WEIGH IN, JUST LET US KNOW. I MEAN, I WOULD WANNA KNOW IF YOU PREFER A MORE CLEAR, I GUESS, MORE SPECIFICITY IN THE DIRECTION AS TO WHEN TO ACCEPT THIS TYPE OF CREDIT TEAM OR WOULD A MORE, UM, WOULD, I MEAN, NOT TO MAKE IT EITHER, OR, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST APPROACH IN THIS CASE? I THINK THE BEST APPROACH IS TO PROVIDE MORE CLARITY SO THAT WHEN AN APPLICANT COMES IN, THEY KNOW UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES THEY MAY RECEIVE CREDIT FOR THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE, AS OUTLINED IN D WITHOUT THAT REFERENCE, IT SORT OF LEADS IT OPEN ENDED, AND THERE IS NO, UM, SORT OF CLEAR PATH FORWARD. IT JUST KIND OF ADDS TO THE REVIEW TIME ADDS TO THE TIME THAT THEY'RE SITTING IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND FURTHER, IF WE'RE SORT OF REFERRING TO D IT SORT OF LAYS OUT THE, THE INCENTIVES FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE THIS 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE THAT DOES HAVE THOSE RECREATIONAL VALUES SUCH AS THE PLANT ID, MAYBE A TRAIL, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE RECREATIONAL VALUE IN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE. THANK YOU. OKAY. FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT BENEFIT. IS THERE A TIME, HAVE YOU EVER, UM, HAVE YOU EVER NOT ACCEPTED 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE WITHOUT GIVING CREDIT? I GUESS WOULD BE THE, THE, THE QUESTION, UM, I MIGHT GET YOU TO REPEAT THAT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE ALWAYS REQUIRED THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE WHEN REQUIRING LAND, BUT HAVE YOU ACCEPTED IT AND NOT GIVEN THE 50% CREDIT? UH, NOT THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLANE, THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE, WE HAVE ACCEPTED IT AND NOT GIVEN IT CREDIT. CORRECT. YOU HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE? YES. OKAY. I THINK ON THE STATE'S MINUTE, IT'S LAUNDER WATER IN LAKE AUSTIN THAT THEY'RE NOT GIVING CREDIT FOR IT. YEAH. THAT THAT'S, UH, THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATEMENT FOR EXAMPLE, HAS, UH, THEIR PARCEL EXTENDS OUT UNDERNEATH LAKE AUSTIN. I MEAN, TOWN LAKE OR LADYBIRD LAKE, UH, [05:50:01] AND THAT'S IN THE 25 YEAR FLIP LINE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WOULD NOT BE GETTING CREDIT. THEY'RE GETTING ZERO CREDIT FOR THAT, THAT PORTION OF PROPERTY, UH, MAYOR. YES. AND I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS. UM, IT, IT'S ALMOST FIVE O'CLOCK I, I, IN LARGE PART, I SEE THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, AMENDING IT BACK TO HOW IT'S ALREADY WRITTEN. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? UM, IT, IT JUST EXPANDS IT. SO THERE'S NOT A, LIKE A PROHIBITIVE CLAUSE IN THE, IN THE ORDINANCE. IT, IT MAKES CERTAIN THAT THE 25 YEAR FLOOD BLAME MAY RECEIVE CREDIT, BOTH AMENDMENTS, BOTH AMENDMENTS, BUT THE, THE, UM, AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT PROVIDES JUST MORE, MORE CLARITY CLARITY, WHICH I UNDERSTAND, BUT I ALSO THINK IT, IT PROVIDES LESS FLEXIBILITY, WHICH CONCERNS ME SOME. AND I KNOW THAT, UM, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE THAT GETS APPLIED TO THESE CONSIDERATIONS. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST HAPPEN TO BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE SOME FRIENDS WHO ARE, ARE THESE KIND OF WANT THERE'S, UH, SOME DEGREE OF LIKE REAL RISK AVERSION. UM, IN WHICH CASE WE MIGHT BE MISSING OUT ON SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABILITY. I THINK, UH, IT BUILDS IN MORE AFFORDABILITY WHEN, UM, WHEN WE'RE NOT BUILD IN MORE AFFORDABILITY FOR THE PARKLAND DEDICATION COMPONENT, UM, WHEN WE'RE NOT ALLOWING, UH, BY ALLOWING RATHER PROPERTY OWNERS TO RECEIVE THE DEDICATION FOR THAT 25 YEAR FLOOD PLANE AND, UH, REDUCING THOSE DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS, I THINK AT THE END OF THAT, UM, WE GET MORE AFFORDABILITY AND SO I WANT MORE AFFORDABILITY AND I WANT MORE FLEXIBILITY. UM, SO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I, I WON'T BE VOTING FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, UM, BUT FULLY PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD IF MY COLLEAGUES ARE OKAY, LET'S TAKE A VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR, THE AMENDMENT MEMBER, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTES, COUNCIL MEMBER, TOVO KITCHEN KELLY, AND THE MAYOR PRO TA THOSE OPPOS, RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, ONE TWOS, THE, THOSE ABSTAINING, UH, ON A 6 41 VOTE, UH, THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT PASSES. HOW DID YOU VOTE MAYOR? I VOTED AGAINST WHO ABSTAINED. I MISSED COUNCIL MEMBER, ALICE ABSTAINED, 6 41 VOTE IT PASSES. OKAY. UH, NOW LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED. UH, THIS IS NOW THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED BY THE MAYOR PRO TAM. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED. I SEE IT AS BEING UNANIMOUS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THIS, UM, THIS, UH, COMBINED, UH, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION, YES. SORRY, SORRY. MAYOR COUNCIL. UM, DO WE HAVE PERMISSION TO RESOLVE ANY DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN ITEM NUMBER 66 AND ITEM NUMBER 53, IF THEY SO EXIST BETWEEN, UM, THE PROVISIONS YOU DO SHOULDN'T BE ANY CUZ THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME BASE MOTION. AND THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS INCORPORATE ALL THE CHANGES TO THE FIRST WE BROUGHT INTO THE SECOND, BUT YES, YOU CAN CONFORM IT. YEAH. THERE WAS ONE PROVISION TO CALCULATING THE FEE RATE THAT WOULD APPLY IT TO RESIDENTIAL THAT WAS INCLUDED IN NUMBER 53 AND NOT INCLUDED IN NUMBER 63. SO THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL PROVISION CHANGE. I THAT'S CORRECT. RESIDENTIAL WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ADDED. DIDN'T ADD IT ON THE CON ON THE, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. CAUSE IT COULD ONLY, THAT WAS THE ONE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YES. IT ONLY RELATES TO RESIDENTIAL. THANK YOU. YES. MAY I PUT PRETEND, UM, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT WE'RE DOING THAT ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT SUBSTANTIVE, BUT THAT ARE REALLY JUST TO MAKE THE INTENTION HAPPEN BECAUSE IF WE MISS SOMETHING, SINCE WE DID THIS IN A VERY UNUSUAL, IN FACT, THE ONLY THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE RESIDENTIAL CHANGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE AND THANK YOU TO THE LEGAL STAFF AND TO THE PART STAFF WHO'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH US ON THIS PROCESS AND, AND TO MY STAFF AND TO THE MAYOR STAFF. WHO'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY ON THIS FOR MANY WEEKS NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING FORWARD, COLLEAGUE, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. UH, COLLEAGUES. IT IS UM, UH, 5 0 3, 5 0 5. SO WE HAVE GO AHEAD TO VOTE. YOU ACTUALLY HAVEN'T VOTED ON 53 AND WE NEED TO DO THE FEE ORDINANCE. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, SO NOW WITH ALL THE AMENDMENTS ALL IN LINE, LET'S TAKE A FINAL VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 53, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR AND CLOSING THE PUBLIC [05:55:01] HEARING ITEM. NUMBER 53, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED 53 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND THE HEARING IS CLOSED. NOW LET'S [59. Approve an ordinance amending Fiscal Year 2022-2023 Fee Schedule (Ordinance No. 20220817-005) related to parkland dedication fees.] TAKE UP THE FEE ITEM. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, SO I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT 59. IS THERE A MOTION TO BE MADE ON 59 COUNCIL ELLIS THIS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO MAKE A MOTION? YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE PASSAGE OF ITEM 59. I PASSED AROUND AN AMENDMENT, UM, THAT PROPOSES A COMPROMISE OF, UH, ONLY A 10% INCREASE OVER THE FEES THAT WE PASSED, UM, DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE, WHICH WERE ESSENTIALLY EXTENDING LAST YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR'S, RESIDENTIAL PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES. I THINK THIS STRIKES, UM, AN APPROPRIATE BALANCE. AND IF I GET A SECOND, I COULD SPEAK MORE IF PEOPLE NEED ME TO OKAY. SECONDED BY, UH, COUNCILWOMAN PUENTES, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO SET THE FEES, THEN LET'S TAKE A VOTE. I'M SORRY, COUNCIL POOL. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR A COMPROMISE, UH, THAT WE ALL COULD VOTE FOR AND IT FEELS LIKE THE 10% COULD BE THAT TODAY. OKAY GUYS ELLIS. YES. I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO DAYLIGHT. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WORKING REALLY HARD ON THIS CONVERSATION. I KNOW NONE OF US WANT TO TRY TO PIT, YOU KNOW, OUR FUNDS FOR PARK SPACE AGAINST HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND SO I KNOW THERE ARE FOLKS WHO IDEALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO STICK TO THE NUMBERS THAT THEY ORIGINALLY HAD PROPOSED. UM, BUT I HOPE THAT WE FOUND A WORKABLE COMPROMISE, KNOWING THAT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCESS TO PARK SPACE, BUT THAT WE DON'T DISPROPORTIONATELY, UM, CREATE A SITUATION WHERE HOUSING DOESN'T GET BUILT. AND THEREFORE WE ALSO DON'T GET THE PARK SPACE OR THE FEE IN LOO TO GO ALONG WITH IT. AND I HOPE THAT WE'VE STRUCK THIS BALANCE WITH 10%. UH, I APOLOGIZE, MAYOR COUNSEL, BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION ON, UM, ITEM NUMBER 59, UH, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO AMEND EXHIBIT NUMBER TWO, TO ADD A FOOTNOTE TO THE COMMERCIAL RATE, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE STARTING JANUARY 1ST, SINCE THAT'S THE EFFECTIVE DATE THAT YOU ADOPTED IN ITEM NUMBER 53, ANY OBJECTION TO MAKING THAT PART OF THE MOTION JANUARY 1ST, 20 THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION PART OF THE MOTION. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER HARBOR MEDICINE. UM, THANK YOU, MARY. AND, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL'S COMMENTARY ABOUT TRYING TO GET CLOSE TO, UH, SOME KIND OF, UH, COMPROMISE HERE. AND SO ON THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, JUST IN LIGHT OF THE STEEP INCREASES IN FEES RECENTLY, I THINK HITTING THE PAUSE BUTTON WHILE THE STAKEHOLDERS PROCESS, UM, UH, HAPPENS OVER THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. HOWEVER, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE DIAS DOES NOT SUPPORT A WHOLESALE FREEZE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR. SO GIVEN THAT I'D LIKE TO OFFER MY SUPPORT FOR AN INCREASE THAT REFLECTS THE INFLATION ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 10% FOR FY 23. SO I'LL SUPPORT THIS ITEM. OKAY. YES, PROAM, UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS, UH, PROPOSAL, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I'M DISAPPOINTED. UM, THE COST OF LAND IS GOING UP WAY MORE THAN 10% AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE WITH THESE FEES. UM, AND IT'S NOT JUST GOING UP FOR DEVELOPERS, IT'S GOING UP FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND EVERY TIME WE WANNA GO AND PURCHASE THE PARK, IT'S GONNA COST US MORE AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE LESS RESOURCES, UM, TO DO THAT. UM, WHEN I PROPOSED 25%, THAT WAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, FACTORING IN, UM, QUITE A LONG WAY. AND YOU KNOW, EVERY 5% IS A POCKET PARK, IT'S A DEVELOPMENT OF A PARK. UM, AND SO THERE, THERE ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, ON THE PARK SIDE, UM, THERE ARE ALSO REAL CONSEQUENCES OF, OF NOT DOING, NOT DOING MORE. UM, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHERE, WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE, UM, HAVE LANDED AS A DIAS. AND I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT WE WILL HAVE AN INCREASE, UM, IN THE RESOURCES, UM, IN THE INTERIM AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE REMAINING ON COUNCIL WOULD REALLY INVITE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE STORYBOARD. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED THAT, UM, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS FOR THE PARKLAND DEDICATION PROCESS, UM, AND TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR DISTRICT AND SEE WHERE THIS, UM, HAS REALLY CONTRIBUTED TO ACCESS TO PARKS, UM, IN YOUR DISTRICT. UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT, HOW, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE FUTURE PROJECTS WILL BE, UM, IMPACTED BY THE CHOICES THAT WE MAKE THROUGH THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS. I KNOW A NUMBER OF YOU, UM, HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT. AND I, AND I JUST, UM, I THINK THAT SORT OF CONCRETE KNOWLEDGE, THEY THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER A LOT OF RESOURCES ABOUT WHERE THIS IS, UM, AND HOW THIS IS HELPING, UM, INEQUITY, WHERE WE'RE MAKING THESE INVESTMENTS, ET CETERA. UM, [06:00:01] SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT FOLKS, UM, TAKE THE TIME TO, TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THOSE THINGS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S COMPLICATED AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRADE OFFS. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD HAVE GONE UP TO 25% WITHOUT AFFECTING THE AFFORDABILITY FOR HOUSING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE MADE, UM, WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, BUT I AM PLEASED THAT WE ARE, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH AN INCREASE OF 10% TODAY. FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED 10 PERCENTAGE UNIT. HOW DO YOU WANNA VOTE? THAT'S A NO, I DON'T LIKE THE FEE INCREASE. OKAY. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY VOTING KNOW THE OTHERS' VOTING I TO THE 10% INCREASE WITH THE FOOTNOTE THAT WAS REQUESTED TO HAVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, FEE THAT NOW PASSES. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE PARK STUFF. OKAY. I'LL LET YOU GUYS GO A SECOND TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. A LOT OF WORK AT A LOT OF TIME. ALL RIGHT, GUYS, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, UH, IN TERMS OF, I THINK THAT WE HAVE THE KAMAN BULL HOUSE AND THE CONVENTION CENTER GARAGE FEE THAT WE COULD TAKE UP. THERE'S ALSO BEEN A REQUEST TO LET PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, FIVE 30. WE'RE GONNA STOP TO DO, UH, PROCLAMATIONS AND TO, AND TO GO TO THE RESTROOM AND TRY AND GRAB DINNER. SO MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANNA LAUNCH IN THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE CONVENTION CENTER GARAGE, OR DO YOU WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN TAKE A BREAK? IT'S THE SECOND ONE APPEARS TO BE WHAT PEOPLE WANT. LET'S DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO LET PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE OUR DINNER BREAK. WHAT I AM SHOWING FOR US STILL TO DO IS THE CAST AND BOWL HOUSE 54 CONVENTION CENTER GARAGE FEE, UH, WHICH IS, UH, 55. WE HAVE THE POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT, WHICH IS 86, 87, UH, AND 91, UH, THE POLICE WRITERS. WE HAVE THE LICENSE PLATE ITEM, WHICH IS 56. UH, AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR OTHER ITEMS. ITEM 26 IS THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. 29 IS THE ILA. NOPE. WE POSTPONED 29 AND WE POSTPONED 30. SO JUST TWO OTHER IT ITEM 26 AND ITEM 90, WHICH IS SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT REGULATING PLAN. OKAY. THAT'S I THINK ARE ALL THE ITEMS WE HAVE? YES. . DID I MISS SOMETHING? DOES THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA NEED TO BE DONE TODAY OR IS THAT GONNA BE FAST? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'LL BE FAST. I THINK IT'LL BE FAST. OKAY. UH, AND I THINK THE REGULATING PLAN, I THINK IS, I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME THAT'D BE FAST TOO. CATCH OUR KITCHEN. WELL, I, I JUST WAS, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ORDER YOU'RE PLANNING ON TAKING THE REMAINING ONES UP AFTER THE DINNER BREAK, BUT I'M HOPING THAT THE LPRS WILL NOT BE THE LAST ITEM SINCE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I AGREE WITH THAT TOO. OKAY. UM, WE, WE'RE GONNA GET THOSE DONE TONIGHT. WE'RE GONNA GET THE, UH, POLICING MATTERS DONE TONIGHT, CUZ WE NEED TO, UH, WE'RE GONNA GET THOSE DONE TONIGHT. UM, DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. THANK YOU. UM, I WANNA BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE PASSAGE OF ITEM NUMBER 52, A RESOLUTION I AUTHORED RELATED TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING. UM, FIRST I WANNA START BRIEFLY ABOUT HOW THIS RESOLUTION CAME ABOUT MONTHS AGO, I WROTE OUT WITH A CONSTABLE'S OFFICE AND I WENT INTO AN ENCAMPMENT WITH THE CONSTABLE. UM, I MET MANY PEOPLE LIVING THERE, INCLUDING A WOMAN EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WHO I LATER LEARNED WAS A VICTIM OF SEX TRAFFICKING. AND IT ABSOLUTELY BROKE MY HEART. AS I LEARNED MORE ABOUT HER SITUATION AND WHAT STRUGGLES SHE'S GONE THROUGH AS A COUNCIL, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT LENGTH THE COMPLEX PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FACE AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS ANOTHER OF THE VAST CHALLENGES FACING UNHOUSED PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. MY HOPE IS THAT IN PASSING THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH WE DID AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH COLLEAGUES, UM, WE'RE GIVING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, ALL OF AUSTIN TOOLS TO LEARN ABOUT AND HELP SUPPORT OUR MOST VULNER VULNERABLE POPULATIONS IN PASSING THE RESOLUTION. OUR COUNCIL AFFIRMED OUR POLICY STATEMENT THAT AS A COUNCIL, WE CONDEMN THE ONGOING EXPLOITATION AND PROFIT FROM HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING COMES IN DIFFERENT FORMS. UH, COUNCIL WILL BE DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES TO VENDORS WHO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY AND ENCOURAGE TRAINING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE VENDORS HAVE THE SKILLS TO RECOGNIZE INDICATORS OF INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AT RISK OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. I WILL SAY THAT, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE AT RISK OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. AND IF YOU HAVE TIME TO READ THROUGH THE RESOLUTION, YOU'LL LEARN QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS AWFUL [06:05:01] AWFUL THING THAT HAPPENS ALL AROUND US. UM, I ALSO AM ENCOURAGED BECAUSE THE CITY WILL BE WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE COMMERCE TO ENCOURAGE LOCAL BUSINESS PARTICIPATION IN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND SUPPORT VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING THROUGH REFERRALS TO AVAILABLE SUPPORT SERVICES. THIS RESOLUTION ALSO REQUIRES THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN POST INDICATORS OF HUMAN EXPLOITATION AND TRAFFICKING AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BRIDGE SHELTERS OR OVERNIGHT SHELTERS OWNED OR OPERATED IN THE CITY AND IN ALL CITY BUILDINGS, I WANNA THANK MY CO-SPONSORS FOR THEIR SUPPORT. I WANNA THANK MY STAFF FOR THEIR SUPPORT, THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE FOR THEIR HOMELESS OUTREACH AND FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION AND TO SAVE AUSTIN FOR THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS ITEM. THERE IS A LETTER AND BACKUP FROM THEM, BUT BEFORE I FINISH, I WANNA SPEAK DIRECTLY FOR A MOMENT TO THE WOMAN I MET IN THE ENCAMPMENT DURING MY WRITE OUT FIRST. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT TO BLAME FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU AND YOU DIDN'T DESERVE IT AT ALL. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING THERE'S SUPPORT FOR YOUR HEALING PROCESS AND THAT OF OTHERS IN YOUR SITUATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE COUNCIL OVER, UH, FOR THOSE DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS ON THE CONCERN COUNCIL, OUR KITCHEN. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M, UM, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CO-SPONSOR ITEM 52, UH, RELATED TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING. AND I WANT TO, UM, UH, THANK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY FOR HER LEADERSHIP, BRINGING THIS FORWARD, RECOGNIZING THE, THE NEED FOR THIS AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, UM, AT A LOCAL LEVEL HERE AT THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, TO, TO HELP ADDRESS, UH, THIS SITUATION. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. MAY I PRO 10? THANK YOU. AND I'LL JUST JOIN MY COLLEAGUES AND THINKING COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY, UH, FOR HER LEADERSHIP ON THAT RESOLUTION RELATED TO TRAFFICKING. UM, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH RELATES TO AUSTIN WATER'S DEBT MANAGEMENT. UM, I'M CHAIR OF AUDIT AND FINANCE, AND THIS IS, UM, REFINANCING. THAT'S GONNA SAVE AUSTIN RATE PAYERS, TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND THAT'S GONNA STRENGTHEN THE FINANCIAL RESILIENCE OF OUR UTILITY, UM, WHICH NEEDS TO BE STRENGTHENED. SO I APPRECIATE THAT THEY'VE WON SOME NATIONAL AWARDS FOR THIS WORK, UM, AND I JUST WANNA APPLAUD IT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE, UM, TO TAKE THESE IMPORTANT STEPS. UM, I ALSO WANNA HIGHLIGHT ITEM 18, WHICH IS OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACTS THAT ARE FUNDED BY OUR APA DOLLARS. UM, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THE APA FRAMEWORK THAT INCLUDED THIS WORKFORCE INVESTMENT. THESE ARE CONTRACTS THAT ARE ESTIMATED TO ENABLE OVER 1100 AUSTINITES TO BE TRAINED FOR HIGH DEMAND CAREER PATHS THAT PAY LIVING WAGES WITH BENEFITS IN HEALTHCARE, IT SKILL TRADES AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING. UM, I DID WANNA CALL ATTENTION TO THE MANAGER, UH, TO SOMETHING, UM, IN THE BUDGET. UM, I TALKED ABOUT, UM, ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE CONTRACTS AND HAD AN AMENDMENT, A BUDGET WRITER THAT, UM, SAID THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE LONG TERM WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOR SOME FUNDING THAT WAS SET ASIDE. AND, UM, THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT IN THE Q AND A WITH RESPECT TO THIS ITEM FOR THE TIMING OF WHEN THOSE CONTRACTS WOULD BE LATE, LET, UM, WAS FOR SUMMER OF 20, 23. UM, THIS WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND MY BUDGET RIDER. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY, UM, LET, UM, THEY'VE BEEN THEIR CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE LONG MANAGED TO DEPLOY EFFECTIVELY, AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME HAVING THESE CONTRACTS OUT THERE. UM, SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT US NOT APPROVING THESE UNTIL THE SUMMER OF 2023. THE APA DOLLARS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ADDITIVE AND TO BE DOING, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL THINGS THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SUBSTITUTING FOR, FOR OTHER WORK. SO I WOULD ASK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MANAGER AND ED D UM, TO GIVE ME SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHY THAT PROCESS IS MOVING AT SUCH A SLOW PACE. THANK YOU, KES. THANK YOU, MAYOR ITEM NUMBER 32 THAT WE PASSED EARLIER TODAY IS A CONTRACT FOR JANE'S DUE PROCESS. THIS IS THE $150,000 LINE ITEM THAT OVER THE YEARS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL HAS WORKED WITH ME ON THAT. AND COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTEZ HAS BEEN JOINING IN THE FIGHT WITH THE REST OF US. AND THIS IS THE $150,000 LINE ITEM THAT YEAR OVER YEAR, UM, HAS BEEN USED TO HELP PEOPLE ACCESS, UM, ABORTION SERVICES, OTHER HEALTHCARE SERVICES. SO AS WE KNOW, THE STATE OF TEXAS CONTINUES TO MOVE THE GOAL POST AND INFRINGE ON PEOPLE'S HUMAN RIGHTS WHEN IT COMES TO SEX EDUCATION AND PREGNANCY, AND WE ARE NOT BACKING DOWN, WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE WITH SEX ED. WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE WITH ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY USE TO EDUCATE THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON WHAT [06:10:01] RIGHTS THEY HAVE AS INDIVIDUALS. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS A LEADER IN STANDING UP FOR WHAT IS OVERWHELMINGLY A TEXAS VALUE. THERE IS ANOTHER ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. I JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT WE WERE ON NUMBER 58, SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL DRAINAGE LANDSCAPE AND SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS. UM, I'M HAPPY TO PUT THIS ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BUT JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT ALTHOUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION HAD TAKEN THE ITEM UP, UM, AND IS GENERALLY AGREEABLE, THEY WANTED MORE TIME TO VET ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CONCERNS AND ANGLES THAT MIGHT BE INCORPORATED WITH IT. SO I'LL JUST BE WATCHING TO MAKE SURE IF THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BETWEEN HERE AND THEN, UM, WE SHOULD BE GOOD, BUT IF FOR ANY REASON IT MIGHT NEED TO BE POSTPONED. I JUST WANNA BE MINDFUL OF THOSE DATES, CASA. I, I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, RAISING, I HAVE HAD SOME OF THOSE SAME ISSUES. I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN WHEN THAT WAS INITIALLY IN FRONT OF US. WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT ALL THE LANDSCAPING, UH, REQUIREMENTS WERE GONNA BE APPLIED DOWNTOWN. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW SOME OF THOSE WORK NOW BEING APPLIED DOWNTOWN, WHETHER WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ALL THE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN WITH GREEN ROOFS. UM, UH, SO THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT, THAT, UM, UH, I THOUGHT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE TO COME IN THAT SECOND WAVE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE WE ASKED, HEY, BALANCE SOME OF THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING, UH, AKIN TO HOW WE HAD LOOKED AT THEM WHEN WE WERE DOING THE, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. THAT WAS WHEN WE DIDN'T CAPTURE. CAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE PART OF WHAT WAS COMING BACK TO US, BUT IT IS. AND, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA LEAVE US, UH, HAVING TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AS WELL. UM, UH, I APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED SO FAR THAT WE DISCOVER DISCUSSED THIS MORNING. I JUST DON WANNA ALSO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE, AGAIN, MULTIPLE ITEMS WITH CONTRACTS, DEALING WITH PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY ITEMS, 34, 36 39, 40 41 43 48 AND, AND, UH, 88 AND 89. UH, AGAIN, I THINK YOUR STAFF'S DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB OF, OF MOVING US FROM A PLACE WHERE WE WERE, UM, UH, JUST NOT ABLE TO DO REALLY ANYTHING. UM, UM, OTHER THAN WHAT WE WERE THE, THE STREAM WE WERE CON CURRENTLY WORKING ON, UH, AND, AND IT'S CHANGING NOW AND WE'RE BUILDING, UH, CONSIDERABLE CAPACITY. I NOTE THE, UH, ARTICLE THAT WAS IN, UH, TODAY'S AUSTIN AMERICAN STATEMENTS, OR YESTERDAY THAT POINTED OUT THAT, UM, UH, ROUGHLY A THIRD OR SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING HOUSING IN THE HILL INITIATIVE ARE NOT STAYING, UH, IN THOSE, IN THOSE TEMPORARY, UH, PLACES. UH, AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE, UH, THAT, UH, IT, IT HELPS ME TWO THINGS. THE FIRST IS, IS THAT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PLACE FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO GO UNTIL WE CAN MOVE PEOPLE INTO OUR EMERGENCY AND RAPID RESPONSE PLACES AND PULL THEM OUT AND REALLY BE ABLE TO MAKE GOOD ON PROMISES THAT WE HAVE PLACES FOR EVERYBODY IN OUR CITY TO BE, UH, THOSE, UH, SHORTER TERM SOLUTIONS OR INTERIM SOLUTIONS ARE NEVER GONNA BE AS EFFECTIVE AS THEY CAN BE. UH, BUT WE'RE LIVING IN A COMMUNITY NOW AND INVESTING MONEY ALONG WITH OUR OTHER PARTNERS AND THE OTHER DONORS TO ACTUALLY BUILD OUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT YOU CAN'T SNAP YOUR FINGERS AND JUST MAKE IT, UH, APPEAR. UH, SO WE NEED TO, TO, TO CONTINUE BUILDING ON THAT AND, AND THAT'LL HELP WITH THAT, UH, THAT, UH, UH, SUCCESS RATE. I'D ALSO POINT OUT THAT, UM, THE OTHER NUMBER THAT WASN'T REALLY PRESSED WAS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WE'VE TAKEN OFF THE STREET AND OUTTA TENTS, AND ACTUALLY GOTTEN THEM INTO HOUSING. AND THEY STAYED IN THE HOUSING, WHICH IS AN EVEN BIGGER NUMBER, UH, OF THOSE PEOPLE. UH, AND, AND THAT'S DELIVERING, I THINK ON A, ON A, ON A COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE MADE TO THEM INTO THE LARGER COMMUNITY. UH, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S WORK IN HELPING US TO, TO REALIZE, UH, THAT, UH, THOSE, THOSE SUCCESSES GOT OUR KITCHEN. UH, YES. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. AND I JUST WANNA, UM, THERE'S SOME OF THE, THE NEWS REPORTS HAVE, HAVE NOT PROVIDED THE COMPLETE PICTURE ON HEELS. SO I JUST WANNA SPECIFY THE, THE NUMBERS ARE THAT 28% HAVE, UH, EXITED NOT TO HOUSING. I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF, I WON'T EVEN SAY THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT ACCURATE. UM, BUT IT'S 28%. UH, TO ME THAT IS, UH, THAT STILL SHOWS A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. AND AS YOU POINT OUT, UM, MAYOR THAT DOESN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE DISCUSSED THAT ARE OUT THERE DON'T ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NO LONGER ON THE STREETS AND IN ENCAMPMENTS, WHO'VE CLOSED 10 ENCAMPMENTS WITH HEEL TO DATE, UM, AND HELPED OVER 300 PEOPLE SO FAR. UH, AND YOUR POINT OF COURSE IS WELL TAKEN. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO, UM, TO, UH, CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS HOUSING AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS TO, TO GO TO, WHICH WILL SHORTEN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT FOLKS NEED TO STAY IN BRIDGE SHELTER. SO, THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I, I WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THAT. I THINK THAT THE [06:15:01] REPORTING ON THE, UM, ISSUE HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETELY ACCURATE. SO I WANTED TO, UH, JUST SAY THAT, AND THEN I WOULD CONCLUDE WITH WHILE IT'S NOT ACTUALLY AN ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, I DO NOTICE THAT MY COLLEAGUE IS WEARING HIS AUSTIN FC SHIRT TODAY AND REMEMBERING THE, UH, VERY LATE NIGHT, FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING BOAT THAT WE TOOK NOT TOO LONG AGO. UH, AUSTIN FC QUALIFIED FOR THE PLAYOFFS LAST NIGHT AND WINNING THEIR GAME. AND WE'RE EXCITED, EXCITED ABOUT THAT. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ALL RIGHT. THAT BEING SAID, THEN LET'S GO INTO RECESS HERE AT, UH, 5 24. UH, DO WE WANT TO TRY AND COME BACK OUT AT, UH, SIX 30? LET'S TRY THAT SIX 30. WE'LL TRY TO COME BACK TO SEE YOU ALL, THEN WE ALL KIND, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN I'M GOING TO INVITE SYLVIA. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. SO, UM, WHY DON'T WE ALL KIND OF GATHER OVER HERE AND THEN WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH WE'LL TAKE SOME PHOTOS CENTERED. ALL [Proclamations] RIGHT. I AM COUNCIL MEMBER, KATHY TOVA. I HAVE THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING DISTRICT NINE, AND I'M HERE WITH MAYOR ADLER AND MY COLLEAGUES, COUNCIL MEMBER RENTERIA, AND COUNCIL AND MAYOR PROTE ALTER TO PROVIDE, UM, THE FOLLOWING PRESENTATION IN THE PRO FOLLOWING PROCLAMATION. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD NEWS STORY. AND AS, AS I READ THE PROCLAMATION, YOU'LL HEAR SOME OF THE, THE CHALLENGES, UM, THAT LED TO THIS REALLY HAPPY CIRCUMSTANCE. SO, UM, SOMETIME DURING THE PANDEMIC, SARAH HICKMAN ALERTED THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE THROUGH HER FACEBOOK PAGE AND THROUGH LOTS OF OTHER MEANS AS WELL. AND MANY OF, YOU KNOW, SARAH HICKMAN, A SINGER SONGWRITER, VERY, UH, VERY WELL KNOWN AND A COMMUNITY LEADER HERE IN AUSTIN. UNFORTUNATELY SHE CAN'T BE WITH US TODAY, BUT SHE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THIS PROCLAMATION AND TO CELEBRATE TOMORROW AT THE OPENING AT MEXICO DAY. UM, SHE ALERTED THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT THE MURALS, UM, THESE MURALS WERE IN JEOPARDY AND THUS, SHE LAUNCHED A, A CAMPAIGN THAT INVOLVED MANY OF US HERE TODAY, UH, THAT RESULTED IN A, A REALLY HAPPY OUTCOME. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M GONNA READ THE FOLLOWING PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS THE ORIGINS OF MEDICINE MURALS BY RAFAEL, NEVADA BARAS WERE COMMISSIONED BY MK HAGUE, A COMMUNITY LEADER, DEVELOPER ART COLLECTOR, AND PHILANTHROPIST FOR THE MEDICAL PARK TOWER AT 1301 WEST 38TH STREET, AND HAVE BEEN A PART OF AUSTIN'S HISTORY AND THE COLLECTIVE MEMORY OF LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR MORE THAN 55 YEARS. AND WHEREAS THE MURALS DEPICT THE MEDICAL DOCTOR'S ROLE OF RESPONSIBILITY, COMMITMENT, AND LOVE OF HUMANITY, THE FAMILY WHOSE CARE AND WELLBEING ARE THE PRINCIPAL CONCERN OF MEDICINE AND THE MEDICAL CENTER'S COMPASSION FOR THE PATIENTS AND WHEREAS HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND I DO MEAN HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS, STAKEHOLDERS, MUSICIANS, ARTISTS, THE MEDIA, LOCAL AND COUNTY OFFICIALS COMBINED EFFORTS, AND BECAME INVOLVED IN THE ADVOCACY TO SAVE THE MURALS. AND WHEREAS THE CIVIC ADVOCACY INSPIRED THE DAUGHTERS OF NETI AND MK HAGUE, JENNIFER HAG BOND, PATRICIA HAG, HIRSCH, CHARLOTTE HA DALBY AND ROBIN SUZANNE HA TO ACQUIRE, TO RESTORE AND TO PRESERVE THE MURALS. AND WHEREAS THE MEXICO CARTE MUSEUM IS DEDICATED TO ENRICHING THE COMMUNITY THROUGH EDUCATION PROGRAMS, EX EXHIBITIONS, AND THE COLLECTION PRES PRESERVATION AND INTERPRETATION OF MEXICAN LATINX, AND LATIN AMERICAN ART AND CULTURE FOR VISITORS OF ALL AGES. AND WHEREAS THE NETTY AND MK HA DAUGHTERS, JENNIFER PATTY, CHARLOTTE, AND ROBIN PROUDLY DONATED THE ORIGINS OF MEDICINE MURALS BY RAFAEL, NEVADA BAHAS TO MEXICO CARTE MUSEUM THIS SUMMER. AND WHEREAS THE PRESERVATION OF THESE MURALS IS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE AND CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE MEXICAN, MEXICAN AMERICAN AND GENERAL COMMUNI OF COMMUNITIES OF AUSTIN. AND WHEREAS THE PUBLIC MAY NOW VIEW THE ORIGINS OF MEDICINE MURALS AT METE MUSEUM. ONE OF THE ANCHORS OF THE MEXICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE CORRIDOR. NOW, THEREFORE I KATHY TOBO ON BEHALF OF MAYOR, STEVE ADLER DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 16TH, TOMORROW 2022 AS THE ORIGINS OF MEDICINE MURALS DAY IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, CONGRATULATIONS, AND, AND A VERY GRATEFUL THANKS. WE'RE REALLY HONORED TO HAVE HERE TODAY, MEMBERS OF THE HA FAMILY, AS WELL AS DIRECTOR OF ROCO, WHO'S GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT [06:20:01] TOMORROW'S OPENING, WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THESE. SO DIRECTOR A ROSCO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, TOVO UH, MAYOR ADLER, UH, AND ALL THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, COUNCIL MEMBER A, UH, ADLER AND, UH, UH EDIA AND, UM, UH, MADISON. UH, YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR, UM, FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. AND I'M, I'M JUST SO EXCITED AND THRILLED TO BE HERE TODAY. I'M LOSING ALL MY WORDS, BUT I'M SO EXCITED. THIS HAS BEEN A, A JOURNEY OVER TWO YEARS IN, UH, WORRYING ABOUT THE MURALS, THINKING ABOUT THE MURALS, UH, WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE MURALS. AND FINALLY, ONE DAY I GOT THE CALL. I GOT A CALL AND SAYING, WELL, WE'RE IN BY JENNIFER BOND, HAG, UH, AND, UH, THAT THERE WERE, UH, THINKING OF DONATING THE MURALS TO MEXICO AT THE MUSEUM. AND THEN WE WERE SELECTED AND WE ARE SO THRILLED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT MEXICO, THE, UH, PERMANENTLY, UH, BECAUSE MEXICO THE IS THE ANCHOR OF THE MEXICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE CORRIDOR. AND ALSO BECAUSE THE SIGN SIGNIFICANCE OF THESE MURALS, THESE MURALISM IS AN, IS A BASIC AND, UH, UH, A DIGNIFIED, UH, FORM OF ART FROM MEXICO. MEXICO IS KNOWN FOR THE MURALS FOR MURALISM AS WELL AS THE CHICANOS. AND SO THE ART OF MURALISM IS SO IMPORTANT TO OUR CULTURE, SO IMPORTANT TO MEXICO THERE. AND THESE ARE THE, UH, A MASTERPIECE CREATED IN 1967 BY RAFAEL. UM, NAVAS AND WE ARE BEYOND WORDS. WE WANT TO THANK SO MUCH, UH, THE NETTY AND MK HAG FAMILY FOR, UH, SELECTING MEXICO FOR THIS MASTERPIECE. AND NOW THE PUBLIC CAN COME VIEW THE MURALS, UH, THAT WILL BE PERMANENTLY EXHIBITED AT THE MEXICO, THE MUSEUM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE BEHALF OF THE FAMILY, SO APPRECIATIVE. WELL, WE WOULD WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND ALSO TO SYLVIA FOR TAKING OUR CALL. AND WE WANNA THANK THE CITY OF AUSTIN BECAUSE WHEN THE CITY OF AUSTIN GATHER TOGETHER AND USE THEIR VOICES TO MAKE CHANGE HAPPEN, THAT'S WHEN THE HEY GIRLS WHIPPED INTO ACTION AND WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGE HAPPEN, AND WE ARE SO THRILLED AND SO HONORED TO BE A PART OF THIS. THANK YOU. SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE, TAKE A FEW MORE PHOTOS, UM, OF ALL OF US AND WE'LL SEND HER ON THAT, ON THAT SPOT. AM I SQUISHY? ALSO THERE YOU, YEAH. OH GOSH. CAN I HAND THOSE TO YOU FOR JUST A SEC? I DON'T KNOW, HAS A MEMORY OF IN, BUT THAT'S THE THING. EVERYONE HAS A MEMORY. YEAH. I'M SO GLAD. I'LL THIS WAY, RIGHT? [06:25:04] SO, OH YES, ABSOLUTELY. I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN GALVESTON. DO YOU? I THINK I WILL KEEP IT. THERE'S A, I WAS GONNA SAY, YEAH, THERE IS A, THERE YOU COME ON UP AND Y'ALL WILL STAND BACK HERE. MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON CAMERA. WHAT DO THEY, THE DANCE BEHIND THE BACK DANCERS, THE BACKGROUND DANCERS. I LIKE IT. OH YEAH. BACK. SEE WHAT, WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW IS THAT I'M SORT OF OBSESSED WITH MUSIC AND MOVEMENT. YOU LAUGH, SOPHIST, HATED CAST MEMBER. YOU DO NOT DANCE YOU ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GET STARTED. MAYOR ADLER, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. UM, THIS PROCLAMATION IS LESS BUT NOT LEAST, AND I'M HAPPY TO BE THE ONE TO PRESENT IT BACK IN 1981, THE UNITED NATIONS ESTABLISHED THE 3RD OF SEPTEMBER AS THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE. IT'S A TIME TO COMMEMORATE AND TO STRENGTHEN THE IDEALS OF PEACE BOTH WITHIN AND AMONG ALL NATIONS. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONFLICT IN THIS WORLD, AND SO MUCH OF IT IS UNNECESSARY. SO I'M PROUD TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY COUNCIL, TO JIM CROSBY AND NON-VIOLENT AUSTIN, UH, THE NON-VIOLENT AUSTIN GROUP DOING REALLY GOOD WORK TO PROMOTE PEACE AND NON-VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE PLANET. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, BE IT KNOWN THAT WHEREAS THE UNITED NATIONS OBSERVE SEPTEMBER 21ST AS INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE, A DAY DEVOTED TO STRENGTHENING THE IDEALS OF PEACE AND NON-VIOLENCE. AND WHEREAS THE 2022 THEME OF THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE IS IN RACISM, BUILD PEACE, A VALUE MISSION THAT CALLS FOR A WORLDWIDE RECKONING WITH RACISM, XENOPHOBIA INTOLERANCE, AND DISCRIMINATION. AND WHEREAS AUSTIN ASPIRES TO BE A CITY OF PEACE AND TOLERANCE, AND IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED AS THE TEXAS [06:30:01] STATE CAPITAL TO BE A BEACON OF INFLUENCE FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR NATION AND THE WORLD. NOW, THEREFORE I COUNCIL MEMBER NATASHA HARPER, MADISON, ALONG WITH THE MAYOR, STEVE ADLER, AND MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES DO HERE BY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2022 AS INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR ADLER. UM, WE STARTED NONVIOLENT AUSTIN ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO. UM, AND WE'RE PART OF A NATIONAL GROUP CALLED CAMPAIGN NONVIOLENCE. AND THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL, UM, EVENT OR SERIES OF EVENTS THEY CALL, THEY USED TO CALL THE WEEK OF ACTION. IT EXPANDED TO NINE DAYS OF ACTION. AND AS OF THIS YEAR, IT'S EXPANDED TO 12 DAYS OF ACTION FROM NEXT WEDNESDAY, THE 21ST, WHICH IS THE UN DAY PEACE GLOBAL DAY OF PEACE ALL THE WAY TO OCTOBER THE SECOND SUNDAY, OCTOBER 2ND, WHICH IS GANDHI'S BIRTHDAY AND IS NOW THE UN INTERNATIONAL DAY OF NONVIOLENCE. SO WE HOLD A BANNER WITH THE SUN FREQUENCY ON FRIDAY AFTERNOONS DOWN AT 11TH STREET, 11TH IN CONGRESS, UM, FROM CAMPAIGN NONVIOLENCE THAT SAYS, PUTTING IT INTO WAR POVERTY, RACISM, AND ENVIRONMENTAL DEVASTATION. UH, SO WE'RE ALL ABOUT INTERSECTIONALITY AND, UH, AS CAMPAIGN NONVIOLENCE ALWAYS SAYS, BUILDING A CULTURE OF PEACE. SO THANKS FOR THIS. AND, UH, THANKS AUSTIN. WE'LL DO IT TOGETHER. THANK YOU. SO IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A PHOTO, WE JUST SORT SEND OURSELVES. WE JUST, YOU THAT'S THE MIDDLE. SO MAYBE WITH THE, YOU CAN TO GO ANYWHERE. YOU GOTTA STAND NEXT TO THE MAYOR THOUGH. WILL YOU TOLERATE YOU? CAN YOU WANNA SWITCH? OH YEAH. YOU'RE TO MEET YOU, UM, AND COMMUNITY GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE. UM, IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BEGIN WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER GARAGE FEE ISSUE FIRST, THEN WE PICK UP CASTLEMAN BOWL SECOND, I THINK, UM, UH, AT THAT POINT WE GO TO THE, UH, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT, UH, MATTER, AND THE LICENSE PLATE, UH, READER. AND THEN WE HAVE THE, UH, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND THE REGULATING PLAN DOES MY ATTEMPT TO CALL THINGS IN THAT ORDER. UH, AND LET'S SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GUESS IF WE CAN GET THROUGH EVERYTHING, UH, TONIGHT MY GUESS WOULD BE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE AT LEAST SOME RESISTANCE GOING PAST 10, CERTAINLY PAST 11 FROM THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER, BUT PROBABLY AT, AT 10 AS WELL. [55. Approve a resolution revising the fees for the Convention Center parking garage, and directing the City Manager to include the Convention Center parking garage in the City’s affordable parking program and to present information to City Council prior to or during Fiscal Year 2024 budget deliberations about parking rates and revenues at the Austin Convention Center and other City-owned garages.] SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. LET'S CALL UP THE CONVENTION CENTER GARAGE FEE ISSUE FIRST, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER. TOVO YOU WANT TO OPEN THIS UP ON THAT? SURE. I'M GONNA MOVE PASSAGE OF THE AMENDMENT THAT I DISTRIBUTED ON THE DIAS AMENDMENT NOW TURNED RESOLUTION AS YOU RECALL, COLLEAGUES. THIS IS, WELL, I'LL SPEAK TO IT ONCE I GET A SECOND. OKAY. ITEM 60, ITEM 60. IS THERE A, UM, UM, SECOND GUYS, PULL SECONDS SET. COUNCILMAN TOVO. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER. TELL ME, I THINK IT'S 55, NOT 60 IT'S 55 ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. YOU'RE WELCOME, KELLY. WELCOME. THANK YOU. ITEM 55. IS THIS POSTED SOMEWHERE? IF WE CAN'T FIND IT IN OUR FILE, UM, I WILL NEED TO CHECK. I CAN ALSO TELL YOU WHICH CHANGES HAVE THE RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M GONNA NEED. YES. UH, THE VERSION THAT GOT DISTRIBUTED DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE SOME OF THE EDITS. THE VERSION THAT GOT DISTRIBUTED IS I THINK THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE BACKUP, UM, AND I HAD SOME EDITS THAT I THINK ARE NOT, ARE NOT HERE. JUST ONE MINUTE. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK. [06:35:07] YEAH, I'M SORRY. THE VERSION WE, I DISTRIBUTED ON THE DIAS IS I THINK THE SAME ONE THAT'S IN BACKUP. AND SO I'M GONNA NEED TO, I'M GONNA NEED TO HAND OUT, I'M GONNA NEED TO WORK ON THAT. SO MAYOR, IF WE COULD, UM, PASS THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT. OKAY. I CAN READ THE CHANGES IN, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE SUBSTANTIAL ONES, CASA AND BO. WE'RE NOT QUITE READY TO DO YET. CAUSE I HAVEN'T AMENDMENT COMING DOWN ON THAT THAT WOULD GET US TO THE POLICING MATTER. DO WE WANNA GO TO THE POLICING MATTER OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE OR TWO HERE? AND WE COULD DO 90? HMM. WE COULD DO 90, I SUPPOSE. OKAY. BUT THAT ALSO INVOLVES MY AMENDMENT, WHICH NEEDS TO BE DISTRIBUTED. DO YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THAT? HAVE YOU PASSED THAT? ANYTHING ON THAT? MAYBE WE SHOULD DO LPR BEFORE 90. I, I, IF WE'RE GOING ON TO, TO MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION OR OKAY. UH, IF, IF WE'RE NOT READY FOR KESSMAN BULL AND PARKING, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST WE GO TO LPR. I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET LOST IN THAT. WE'RE GONNA PICK UP LPR AFTER WE DO THE, UH, POLICE, UH, BALLOT AND THE OTHER ISSUE WE'RE GONNA GET BOTH OF THEM DONE TONIGHT. KATHY, DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE A SECOND TO COME BACK TO THAT? OR YOU WANT US TO START TO DE POLICING THINGS? I, I LEAVE IT TO Y'ALL. I APOLOGIZE FOR [86. Approve the ordinance to enact an "Austin Police Oversight Act" that will strengthen the oversight of Austin police and encourage accountability for officer misconduct and bmtality. ] DISTRIBUTING THE WRONG, THE WRONG ONE. LET, LET OVERSIGHT ACT, LET CALLING UP ITEMS 86, 87 AND 91. THE NEXT THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS LICENSE PLATE READERS, 56. OKAY, GOOD. UM, POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT OBVIOUSLY, UH, A BIG ISSUE FOR US TONIGHT. UM, SO WE COULD TAKE A MOTION ON 86. WE COULD TAKE A MOTION ON 87. UH, WE COULD TAKE A, A MOTION ON NOT PROBABLY 91 CUZ 90. ONE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON THE VOTE WE TAKE ON 86 AND 87. SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES. SO MAYOR 86, IF WE, THAT IS THE, UM, THAT'S THE PETITION ORDINANCE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US, RIGHT? IF, IF, IF WE WANNA MOVE THAT, THEN SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION AND, OR WE COULD JUST START TALKING ABOUT IT FIRST AND THEN WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT MOTION WE WANTED TO MAKE. WELL, I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE, BUT THERE'S, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. RIGHT. BUT, BUT WE COULD PASS JUST A, WE COULD PASS 86 AND WE COULD ADOPT IT THAT MOOTS OUT 90, 87. OKAY. WE COULD HAVE A MOTION THAT SAYS I MOVED TO APPROVE 87, UH, ON ALL THREE READINGS OR JUST ON FIRST READING OR NOT, WE COULD MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD MOOD OUT. UM, IF IT PASSES IS THAT WOULD MOVE OUT 86. OKAY. AND THEN WE WOULD GO TO 91. OKAY. I'LL DEFER TO COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON. I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS ITEM NUMBER 86. OKAY. MOTION TO PASS 86. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. SECOND SET ITEM NUMBER 86 IS IN FRONT OF US. SO MAYOR YES. THERE'S A THERE'S HANG ON A SECOND. I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO, SHE MADE THE MOTION. I'M GONNA GIVE HER FIRST CHANCE TO SPEAK TO, OKAY, GO AHEAD. YOU WANTS TO, SHE SHOULD SPEAK COUNCIL HAR MADISON. THANK YOU MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THAT. GIVE JUST A MOMENT. I'M SORRY. I WAS ON THE WRONG PAGE. SO, UH, HI EVERYBODY. THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING. I GOTTA TELL YOU, REGARDLESS OF THE ISSUE, I LOVE SEEING CHAMBERS THIS FULL. I LOVE SEEING PARTICIPATION AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL. THIS IS WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE. I HOPE WE CAN KEEP IT UP. LET ME JUST SAY, UM, WELL START BY SAYING THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE DONE SOME OF THE HARDEST WORK IN OUR CITY. THEY HAVE SAVED LIVES. THEY'VE TAKEN BAD GUYS OFF THE STREET. THEY'VE KEPT US SAFE AT OUR CITY'S MAJOR EVENTS AND MADE COMMUNITY CONTACTS THAT PEOPLE ACROSS AUSTIN WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER. THIS IS A UNIQUE JOB THAT IS, UM, IN THAT IT'S THE ONE ROLE WHERE WE ENTRUST PEOPLE WHO WEAR THE BADGE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A SPLIT SECOND DECISION WITH WHETHER OR NOT TO USE LETHAL FORCE AS GREAT POWER. AND WE ALL KNOW THE SAYING ABOUT WHAT COMES WITH GREAT POWER. I DEEPLY APPRECIATE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WEAR THE BADGE, BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY ARE MEN AND WOMEN JUST LIKE THE REST OF US, HUMAN AND FALLIBLE. AND WE'VE SEEN A LOSS OF TRUST IN OUR DEPARTMENT BY LOTS OF RESIDENTS IN AUSTIN, FROM THE MILLIONS. UH, WE AS A MUNICIPALITY HAVE PAID OUT IN SETTLEMENTS, MILLIONS [06:40:01] OVER BRUTALITY DURING THE SUMMER OF 2020 TO THE SUDDEN RESIGNATION OF AN ASSISTANT CHIEF WHO FACED HIGHLY CREDIBLE ALLEGATIONS OF OPENLY USING RACIST WORDS. IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT WE CAN DO MORE TO HELP REBUILD THAT TRUST, ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO GOOD GOVERNMENT WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY IS A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD STRENGTHEN THOSE TWO THINGS AT APD. IT WOULD PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE FOR OUR OFFICERS TO UPHOLD THOSE ODES AND TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY WITH THE HIGHEST STANDARDS AS WE ALL EXPECT AT THE SAME TIME, IT WOULD ROOT OUT THOSE BAD APPLES THAT ALL TOO OFTEN HARM THE DEPARTMENT'S PUBLIC STANDING. I HONESTLY THINK THAT IT'S A VERY SUBSTANTIAL STEP FORWARD AND THE MISSION WE UNDERTOOK IN 2020 TO INTENTIONALLY AND TRANSFORMATIVELY REIMAGINE PUBLIC SAFETY. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS GRASSROOTS LEAD EFFORT TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MEDICINE. THAT WAS VERY WELL SAID. UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, TO ADD THAT I RESPECT AND APPRECIATE AND WANT TO GIVE A THANK YOU TO OUR OFFICERS. IT IS A THANKLESS DIFFICULT JOB THAT THEY DO FOR US. AND I APPRECIATE THIS. THE REASON THAT I WANT TO A REASON THAT I SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE OPO ORDINANCE IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT IS FUNDAMENTAL AS COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MEDICINE SAID IT'S FUNDAMENTAL FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. TO ME, IT IS NOT AN ITEM TO CONSIDER IN NEGOTIATION. WHAT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR NEGOTIATION IS WAGES AND BENEFITS. AND I AM ONE THAT SUPPORTS, UM, SUPPORTS GOOD WAGES AND GOOD BENEFITS FOR OUR OFFICERS. BUT THE OPO POLICE OVERSIGHT IS FUNDAMENTAL AND IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST NEED AS A POLICY MATTER TO SAY THAT WE ARE GONNA DO IN OUR CITY. SO THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THAT MAYOR. THERE'S A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT, UM, THAT I WANTED TO CALL UP BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT THEY MAY HAVE SOMETHING THEY WANT TO SHARE WITH US FROM THEIR ORGANIZATION. UH, MAY I DO THAT? UM, YES, YOU CAN DO THAT. COLLEAGUES. I GOT ASKED THIS QUESTION EARLIER. UH, WE DECIDED HOW WE WERE GOING TO DO SPEAKERS, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, WE DO ALLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CALL UP JUST A COUPLE, FEW PEOPLE AND, AND WE'LL MAINTAIN THAT PRACTICE, UH, AND JUST LIKE WE HAVE DONE EARLIER TODAY ALREADY, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD, MIGHT YOU KEEP THE, THE NUMBERS SMALL BECAUSE THIS REALLY IS THE TIME FOR US TO BE TALKING, UM, WITH EACH OTHER. YES, JUST A FEW PEOPLE. OKAY. IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL UP, UH, CHRIS HARRIS, HANNAH ALEXANDER, MEREDITH DRAKE, BRADON, LAHAM JONES, AND CHAZ MOORE. YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU ALL TODAY. UH, HI EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHRIS HARRIS, AND I'M SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY AND MY CAPACITY AS PRESIDENT OF EQUITY ACTION. ATX, UH, WE ARE THE ORGANIZATION, UH, THAT, UM, BOTH RAN THE NOA ON PREP, A CAMPAIGN LAST NOVEMBER THAT WON 68 32 AND, UH, COLLECTED THE SIGNATURES, UH, THAT HAVE PROMPTED, UH, THIS DELIBERATION TODAY, UH, ON ITEM 96, 97 OVER THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT. AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, JUST SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT WHAT IT IS AND WHY WE'RE, UH, DOING IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE I'M, I'M WILLING TO ADDRESS DIRECTLY NO, IF YOU JUST WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT IT THAT POINT. SURE, SURE. SO, UM, FIRSTLY, JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, THIS, THIS ORDINANCE, UH, IS BASED OFF OF A, THE 2018 ORDINANCE THAT, UH, CITY COUNCIL PASSED. IT WAS A CITY MANAGER ORDINANCE THAT CAME FORWARD. UM, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE, UH, PRIMARILY IN RESPONSE TO THE ARBITRATOR DECISION, UH, THAT WAS RELEASED, THAT WAS, UH, RELEASED LAST DECEMBER. THAT WEEKEND, OUR OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT IS, UH, PURSUED A BALLOT MEASURE APPROACH TO, TO REESTABLISH AND TO STRENGTHEN OUR OVERSIGHT SYSTEM, BUT TO DO SO SPECIFICALLY WITH THE GOALS THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KIN YOU MENTIONED, WHICH IS, UH, BOTH TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONSISTENT OVERSIGHT, THAT'S ESTABLISHED, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND ALSO TO PAY AND BENEFITS TO SAY THAT THIS IS A, A, A THING THAT WE NEED AND SHOULD HAVE, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE, UH, CONTROLLED BY THE NEGOTIATIONS AND IT, AND IT SHOULDN'T ULTIMATELY BE, UH, [06:45:01] CONNECTED TO, UM, THE PAY AND BENEFITS IT OFFERS, RECEIVE, WHICH IT SHOULD BE A SEPARATE MATTER UP FOR NEGOTIATION. SO REALLY HOW THIS ORDINANCE CHANGES THE 2018 ORDINANCES, FIVE KEY WAYS. ONE IS THAT, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE LIFTED. UH, WE WE'VE AFFIRMED, UH, PUT IN, UH, THAT THIS, THE OFFICE POLICE OVERSIGHT CAN GATHER EVIDENCE IN THE 2018 ORDINANCE. IT WAS POSITIVE. THEY COULD DO PRELIMINARY REVIEWS. UH, THIS WAS ASSUMED TO MEAN THEY COULD GATHER EVIDENCE, WHICH THEY DID. HOWEVER, THE CONTRACT THAT WAS AGREED TO AT THE SAME TIME, UH, ACTUALLY NEGATED THAT AUTHORITY AND, AND THIS PROVED PART OF THE BASIS FOR THE ARBITRATOR DECISION. AND SO, UH, BECAUSE OF, AGAIN, THIS CON THE CONTRACT UNDERMINING THE ORDINANCE, UH, WE WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY REESTABLISH THAT POWER AND THE OPO REPORT LAST NOVEMBER REALLY CONFIRMED THAT THOSE PRELIMINARY, UH, REVIEWS WERE REALLY USEFUL. UM, THEY, THEY, UH, MADE SURE THAT LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS MOVE FORWARD AND ILLEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS DIDN'T, UH, BUT THEN THEY ALSO, THAT REPORT SHOWED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T ALWAYS FOLLOWED UP ON BY INTERNAL AFFAIRS. AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS WOULD GET FOLLOWED UP ON, UM, A COUPLE OTHER REALLY QUICK THINGS. THE, THE, THE ORDINANCE ALSO, UH, IS REALLY DESIGNED TO IMPROVE THE TRANSPARENCY OF, OF, OF POLICING, UH, BY ENSURING THAT THE RELEASE OF INFORMATION ABOUT CONDUCT ISN'T CONNECTED TO A DETERMINATION ABOUT DISCIPLINE AND DISCIPLINE. AND THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT IS NOT BECAUSE WE WANT, YOU KNOW, FALSE ALLEGATIONS TO BE, TO BE MADE PUBLIC. UM, WHAT WE WANT IS THAT A DECISION ABOUT DISCIPLINE, NOT TO HAVE THE INCENTIVE, THAT IF WE DON'T DISCIPLINE SOMEONE, THEN THE INFORMATION ABOUT IT WON'T COME OUT. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE INCENTIVE STRUCTURE THAT'S BUILT TO THE CURRENT, UH, TRANSPARENCY MODEL OF, OF OUR SYSTEM. IT SAYS THAT IF, IF THE POLICE CHIEF, IT, IT IS, HAS A DECISION ABOUT DISCIPLINE, BUT IT'S POTENTIALLY EMBARRASSING INFORMATION THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO COME OUT, UH, THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE IT DOESN'T IS TO JUST NOT RENDER DISCIPLINE, BECAUSE THEN IT CAN'T COME OUT IT'S SECRET FOREVER. AND SO WE WANTED, WE, WE WE'VE KEPT ALL THE DISCIPLINARY DECISION MAKING WITH AUTHORITY WITH THE CHIEF. WE'VE KEPT ALL THE POLICY DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY WITH THE CHIEF. WE'VE JUST SAID THAT IF, UM, THAT THAT INFORMATION CAN COME OUT, BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T BE BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S EMBARRASSING OR NOT, IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC INSTITUTION THAT REQUIRES TRANSPARENCY. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE MORE FUNDAMENTAL THINGS. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS ULTIMATELY CAN'T UNDERMINE IT IN SOME WAY THAT THOSE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS STAY ABOUT WAGES AND BENEFITS AND THE THINGS THERE, AND NOT ABOUT THE CIVIL RIGHTS THAT PEOPLE IN THE CITY HAVE. SO, SO THAT'S REALLY THE, THE, THE PRIMARY COMPONENTS OF IT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR HIM IF OTHERS DO. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU, BRA. THANK YOU. UM, SO, SO HANNAH AND MEREDITH, I UNDERSTAND, AND AGAIN, LET'S, LET'S KEEP THIS, THIS SHORT GUYS, CUZ UM, I WAS INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT YOU ALL WANTED TO SAY, BUT OUTTA RESPECT FOR MY COLLEAGUES, WE DO NEED TO KEEP IT FREE. ABSOLUTELY. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. MY NAME IS HANNAH ALEXANDER. I AM THE AUSTIN STAFF ATTORNEY WITH WORKERS DEFENSE, WHERE I PRIMARILY REPRESENT LOW WAGE IMMIGRANT WORKERS AND EMPLOYMENT DISPUTES. I'M HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF WORKERS DEFENSE TO URGE Y'ALL TO PLEASE VOTE, TO ENACT THE APO A TODAY AND VOTE AGAINST ITEMS 56, 87 AND 91. I AM A NEW DISTRICT FOR RESIDENT AND WORKER'S DEFENSE, WHICH APD OFFICERS RAID LAST FALL IS ALSO IN DISTRICT FOUR, A FEW WEEKS PRIOR TO THE RAID AND ALLEGED ATTEMPTED ASSAULT OCCURRED IN OUR PARKING LOT. A GRAND JURY SUBPOENAED FOOTAGE FROM OUR SECURITY SYSTEM RATHER THAN PROPERLY SERVE THE SUBPOENA. APD OFFICERS RATED OUR NONPROFIT OFFICE TO EXECUTE A SEARCH WARRANT FOR THE SECURITY SYSTEM RECORDING DEVICE DURING APDS INVESTIGATION LEADING UP TO AND INCLUDING THE RAID APDS OFFICERS CONDUCT RANGED FROM CONCERNING TO POTENTIALLY UNLAWFUL. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS SWORN PROBABLE CAUSE AFFIDAVIT FOR THE SEARCH WARRANT, THE OFFICER INDICATED THAT HE HAD SERVED THE SUBPOENA WHEN THAT WAS NOT TRUE. ALSO, AN OFFICER CLAIMED THAT HE SAW ONE OF MY COWORKERS TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE THROUGH A WINDOW. WE KEPT THE DEVICE IN A WINDOWLESS INTERIOR ROOM. SO THIS ACCUSATION IS BOTH IMPOSSIBLE, BUT ALSO COMPLETELY FALSE. ONCE OFFICERS FORCIBLY ENTERED BUILDING STAFF MEMBERS TOLD THEM WHERE WE KEPT THE DEVICE AND EVEN UNLOCKED THE DOOR FOR THEM. THE TWO OFFICERS DREW THEIR FIREARMS AND SEARCHED THE REST OF THE BUILDING, FORCING THEIR WAY THROUGH LOCK DOORS AND TAKING PHOTOS ALONG THE SEARCH, INCLUDING MY OFFICE, WHERE I KEEP CONFIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROTECTED BY ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. AFTER THE RAID, WE DECIDED TO FILE A COMPLAINT WITH OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. WE ASSUMED THAT IT WOULD BE AN EFFECTIVE PROCESS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY WITHOUT POTENTIALLY COSTING THE CITY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND LEGAL FEES AND DAMAGES. UNFORTUNATELY, [06:50:01] THE PROCESS WITH A WASTE OF TIME AND CAUSE FURTHER HARM. INTERNAL AFFAIRS REFUSED TO FOCUS ON ANYTHING, BUT THE TWO HOURS DURING WHICH THE FIVE OFFICER RAID TOOK PLACE COMPLETELY IGNORING MANY OF OUR OTHER COMPLAINTS. THEN IA ONLY WANTED TO INTERVIEW OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL WHO FILED THE COMPLAINT ON OUR BEHALF AND THE TWO NON-PROFIT STAFF MEMBERS WHO WERE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AT THE TIME OF THE RAID, OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL WAS NOT THE COMPLAINANT. SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN IMPROPER FOR HER TO BE INTERVIEWED. AND THE TWO, MY TWO CO COWORKERS WERE TOO TRAUMATIZED. SO THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANNA TALK TO THE POLICE AGAIN, UM, ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO THEM. WE OFFERED OTHER WORKERS' DEFENSE REPRESENTATIVES AS WITNESSES, INCLUDING ME AS I WAS THERE FOR MOST OF THE RAID, THEY DIDN'T WANNA TALK TO ANY OF US. WE SENT NUMEROUS EMAILS EXPRESSING OUR EAGERNESS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE INVESTIGATION, BUT NOTHING HAPPENED. IT WAS ALMOST AS THOUGH IA DID NOT WANT THE INVEST, WANT TO INVESTIGATE BECAUSE IF IT DID, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY FIND VIOLATIONS OF POLICIES OR LOSS. THEN TIME EXPIRED. WE HAD A CLOSEOUT MEETING WITH OPO. THE MEETING WAS FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE LEARNED THAT OPO WAS POWERLESS AS IS IA WAS INVITED TO ATTEND THE MEETING, BUT THEY REFUSED OUR NUMEROUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION COULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED ONLY BY IA. WE FOUND OUT THAT TWO OFFICERS WERE VERBALLY REPRIMANDED FOR NOT WRITING REPORTS AFTER THE EVENT, BUT THAT WAS IT. THE RAID AND THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH OPO AFFECTED WORKERS' DEFENSE AND ME GREATLY, I WILL NEVER FORGET HOW SCARED AND POWERLESS I FELT DURING THE RAID. I HAD TO GIVE IMPORTANT, BUT HORRIFIC ADVICE TO MY COWORKERS TO NOT MAKE ANY SUDDEN MOVEMENTS AND TO KEEP THEIR HANDS VISIBLE AND EMPTY IN CASE OFFICERS, MISTOOK PHONES OR WALLETS FOR A WEAPON. OKAY. I WAS TERRIFIED. APD OFFICERS WERE GOING TO PHYSICALLY HARM OR KILL MY COWORKERS. AND THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO TO, TO STOP IT. WHEN OFFICERS FALSELY ACCUSED MY COWORKER OF TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT A P D WOULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANTED AND WOULD SAY WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO JUSTIFY THEIR ACTIONS. I HAVE NO CLOSURE AND I HAVE NO TRUST IN APD. AT THIS MOMENT, AN OPO COULD HAVE RESTORED SOME OF THAT TRUST IF IT WAS ACTUALLY FUNCTIONAL WORKER'S DEFENSE HAS WORKED HARD TO CREATE A SPACE WHERE IMMIGRANT WORKERS FEEL SAFE. AFTER THE RAID. ONE OF OUR MEMBERS SAID WORKER'S DEFENSE IS THEIR SECOND HOME, AND NOW THEY DO NOT FEEL SAFE IN THEIR HOME. IT SEEMS SO ILLOGICAL THAT APD WOULD RATE OUR OFFICE IN THAT INSTANCE, THAT IT SEEMED ENTIRELY PLAUSIBLE THAT IT COULD HAPPEN. AGAIN. WORKERS, DEFENSE STAFF DID NOT FEEL SAFE GOING TO THE OFFICE. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HOST A WAGE THEFT CLINIC, BUT WE HAD TO POSTPONE IT AND FIND A NEW LOCATION BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GUARANTEE THAT APD OFFICERS WOULDN'T JUST SHOW UP AGAIN. AS A REMINDER, BESIDES THE FALSE ACCUSATION AGAINST MY COWORKER, WORKER'S DEFENSE WAS SIMPLY A POTENTIAL WITNESS TO A CRIME AND A COMMUNITY MEMBER. WE WEREN'T ACCUSED OF ANYTHING. AND IF THIS IS HOW APD TREATS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WITNESSES OF CRIMES, I CANNOT IMAGINE HOW POORLY THEY TREAT PEOPLE WHO ARE ACCUSED OF CRIMES. WHEN APD OFFICERS FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES THAT PROTECT ALL OF OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES AND CIVIL RIGHTS, WORKER'S DEFENSE EXPECTS ACCOUNTABILITY. THE CURRENT OPO STRUCTURE WITH IA LEADING THE INVESTIGATION DOES NOT DO THAT BECAUSE THE POLICE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS TIMELINE AND THIS ONE TO IS DIFFERENT. YOU MUST PASS THE APO A TODAY UNLESS OPO IS GIVEN GREATER INVESTIGATIVE POWER AND AUTONOMY APDS IMPUNITY WILL CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS. I CANNOT STAND THE THOUGHT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED INJUSTICES FAR WORSE THAN THE INJUSTICES THAT I EXPERIENCED TO DEAL WITH THIS AN EFFECTIVE A PROCESS FOR UNTIL MAY OR EVEN FOR FOUR MORE YEARS, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO PROTECT RESIDENTS FROM HARM. PLEASE USE IT BY VOTING FOR ITEM 86 AND AGAINST ITEM 56, 87 AND 91. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM. MAYOR THE CATS, OUR KITCHEN. I THINK THAT, UM, SO SORRY ABOUT THE ENTIRE INCIDENT. I AM, UH, FAMILIAR WITH IT FAMILIAR WITH WORK DEFENSE PROJECT, UH, AND THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR EXECUTING, YOU KNOW, A SUBPOENA IN THAT MATTER, ABSENT, YOU KNOW, VERY EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, DID NOT SOUND LIKE THEY, UH, EXISTED AT THE TIME. UH, WAS THE, THE DATE OF THE, OF THAT, UH, RAID WAS BEFORE THE ARBITRATION DECISION. YES, IT WAS. SO THE OPPO HAD THE INVESTIGATIVE POWERS, UH, AT THAT TIME WAS, DID WAS THE OPPO ALLOWED TO INVESTIGATE THAT INCIDENT? I DON'T WANNA COMMENT ON [06:55:01] WHATEVER THE OPIOIDS INTERNAL POWERS WERE AT THAT TIME OR NOT AS I AM A LAWYER, BUT NOT THEIR LAWYER AND ALSO NOT A, A MEMBER OF, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF. SO I THINK, UM, PURELY THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT I, I DO NOT KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO, TO ANSWER IT. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND MY, MY QUESTION IS, AND, AND I WOULD WELCOME ANYONE ELSE TO ANSWER IT IS WILL THE CHANGES HERE ALLOW THE OPO TO INVESTIGATE IN A MANNER. IN OTHER WORDS, DO THEY GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL POWERS TO INVESTIGATE IN A MANNER THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE WHEN, UH, THAT, UH, WHEN THAT, THAT RATE HAPPENED? YEP. SO I WANT, I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE, THE COMPLAINT WAS PUT IN, AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE RATE? RIGHT. WE, WE FILED A COMPLAINT ON NOVEMBER 17TH, UM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS BEFORE THE ARBITRATION AGREEMENT. UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA COMMENT TOO MUCH, BUT CERTAINLY TO DO ANY TYPE OF COMPLAINT WILL TAKE TIME. AND, UH, IT WOULD BE UNREALISTIC THAT OPO WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES THAT NEEDED TO DO BETWEEN, UH, NOVEMBER 17TH AND, UH, THE DATE OF THE ARBITRATION AGREEMENT. BUT I THINK EVEN WE DESERVE MORE, EVEN IF OPO IS ARBITRATION AGREEMENT DID NOT COME OUT. UM, I THINK WE ALL DESERVE TO LIVE IN A CITY WHERE THERE IS TRUE ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT, UM, AND AT LEAST OKAY. YEAH. SO I, I WANNA JUST REALLY QUICKLY ADD TO THAT, WHICH IS THAT SO ONE, RIGHT. THIS HAPPENED LIKE ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE. OKAY. RIGHT. SO WHAT POWERS THE OPO HAD WHERE WERE SOON TO BE STRIPPED AWAY GOT, SO THERE WASN'T, THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A, A LITTLE BRIEF WINDOW WHERE THEY COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING, BUT THEN THEY HAD THEIR POWER STRIPPED DURING THE COURSE OF, OF, OF THIS PROCESS. MM-HMM . AND THEN SECONDARILY, THERE IS ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP WITH THIS, WHICH IS THAT IT WOULD GIVE A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME FOR AN INVESTIGATION TO OCCUR, UH, AND FOR THE CHIEF TO POTENTIALLY RENDER DISCIPLINE IN THE CASE THAT THERE, THERE ACTUALLY WAS A GOOD INVESTIGATION GOING ON. SO, UM, SO I THINK BOTH THE FACT THAT THE OPPO WOULD BE GRANTED SOME INVESTIGATORY AUTHORITY, AS WELL AS THE LENGTH OF TIME EXTENSION, UH, THAT THAT'D BE GRANTED BY THE ORDINANCE WOULD, WOULD ACTUALLY HELP TO ENSURE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD BE ADDRESSED MM-HMM AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S THE EXTENSION OF 180 DAYS MOVING IT FROM 180 DAYS LIMIT TO THE INCIDENT TO INVESTIGATION TO THE 365. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S CORRECT. YES. OKAY. GOT IT. AND THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, CAUSE I, I KNOW IT HAD HAPPENED A WHILE BACK. I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THE COMPLAINT WAS FILED AND IF IT WAS WITHIN THE OPOS POWERS AT THE TIME, OR IF IT WAS AFTER THE ARBITRATION DECISION. SO I DIDN'T KNOW KIND OF WHAT THE CONTEXT WAS FOR ANY POTENTIAL INVESTIGATION BY THE OPL. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY ELSE YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS TO, BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT MY INTENT TO TAKE TIME AWAY FROM, FROM COUNCIL. SO I APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO CALL FOLKS UP AND I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE EFFORTS THAT FOLKS ARE TRYING TO GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES. I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT SOMEONE WANTS TO SAY THAT'S DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, FROM THE, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF YOUR, OF YOUR, UM, ORGANIZATION THEN, OR UNLESS PEOPLE WANNA ASK QUESTIONS, IT WAS MY INTENT TO, TO HEAR FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS AND, AND TO HEAR, TO HEAR AN EXAMPLE. BUT I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK THAT I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT AND I'M HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES THAT THEY'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH EACH OTHER. SO, UM, DOES ANYONE WANNA, MY LAST TALK CHESS, IF YOU WANT TO NICOLE, I DON'T THINK IF I, I, I, I THINK WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF EXAMPLES. IT'S NOT THAT LONG AND IT'S PERSONAL TO ME. IT'S VERY PERSONAL TO ME. HEY, ROGER, THIS WOULD'VE AFFECTED MY LIFE DIFFERENTLY. THAT WAS AROUND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING IS EXAMPLES THAT MAY SPEAK TO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IN SHORT. I DON'T THINK WE'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING SOMETHING THAT'S A, A REPEAT, SO COOL. THANKS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT THEN GETS US BACK UP TO THE DI IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE QUESTIONS, SOMEONE WANNA ASK A QUESTION. OKAY. WE'RE BACK UP TO THE DIAS. THANK YOU ALL. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION IN FRONT OF US MOTION IN SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I, I WOULD JUST SAY WHAT I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE. I, I, I THINK, I THINK, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY IS IMPORTANT AND TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT. AND I APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THE EFFORTS FOR, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO US. AND I ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR E YOUR EFFORTS, AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS LETTING US KNOW AND GIVING US EXAMPLES AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE PUT INTO BRINGING FORWARD THIS PETITION. I THINK THE WAY THAT IS WRITTEN, UM, I [07:00:01] SUPPORT, I THINK IT DOES A GOOD JOB OF ADDRESSING THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS IN A VERY FAIR AND BALANCED WAY. AND I APPRECIATE, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT BEING, UM, EXPLAINED TO US THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF IT. AND SO I, I SUPPORT IT AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND ADOPT IT BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I THINK, UH, IT'S FUNDAMENTAL AND I DON'T THINK IT'S, UM, I DON'T THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS, THAT IS PART OF NEGOTIATIONS OR PART OF WAGE AND BENEFITS. SO, OKAY. WE, THIS THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MOORE KITCHEN. I ALSO ECHO WANNA ECHO YOUR REMARKS AND SAY THAT I TOO SUPPORT SIGNING THE AND ADOPTING THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT INTO, INTO LAW, UH, OUTRIGHT. I, I THINK OUR COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN PRETTY LOUDLY AND CLEARLY WITH OVER 33,000 SIGNATURES FROM ACROSS OUR CITY, THAT IS A CLEAR DEMAND ON US FOR US TO, TO DO BETTER BY OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TODAY TO TAKE ACTION AND TO ADOPT THIS PETITION AS AN ORDINANCE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE GREATER STANDARDS OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. UM, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY SHOULD BE SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT OF THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, PETITION GUYS, PAUL, THANKS, MAYOR. I, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ON TUESDAY, UM, THAT THE ORDINANCE HAS SOME LANGUAGE IN IT THAT PRESENTS REAL CHALLENGES FOR US. AND WE, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND WE ARE AWARE OF THAT. AND IT IS FOR THAT REASON THAT I WON'T BE ABLE TO ADOPT THIS PETITION INTO ORDINANCE, AS IT IS WRITTEN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PROGRESS TOWARD HAVING MORE AUTHORITY AND INDEPENDENCE FOR THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. I ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT AS WE MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT GOAL, WE ARE ON SOLID LEGAL GROUND. ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY ARE SHARED VALUES IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS THE STANDARD FOR EVERY SINGLE CITY EMPLOYEE, INCLUDING, AND ESPECIALLY THE POLICE. I WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON MEASURES. THIS DIAS CAN ADOPT THAT, BRING US CLOSER TO OUR INDEPENDENCE GOALS FOR THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT THAT WILL HELP ENSURE THAT SPECIFIC ACCOUNTABILITY. I ALSO HISTORICALLY HAVE PREFERRED HEARING FROM VOTERS ON BIG ISSUE PROPOSITIONS. I SEE IT AS A CLEARER AND MORE DETERMINATIVE WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE PREFERENCES OF OUR RESIDENTS. THE VOICE OF THE ELECTORATE IS IMPORTANT TO ME, AND IT IS FOR THESE REASONS THAT I SUPPORT PUTTING THE PROPOSAL ON THE MAY BALLOT. THAT IS ITEM 87. AND THAT IS WHY I WILL BE VOTING NO ON ITEM 86. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VELA. I SUPPORT THE POLICY. UH, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE, UH, OTHER COMMENTS. I DON'T THINK THAT DISCIPLINE IS AN APPROPRIATE PART OF THE NEGOTIATING CONTRACT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT STARTED OR HOW THAT GOT IN THERE, BUT TO MEET THE DISCIPLINARY STRUCTURE OF THE CITY AND ITS DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE WITHIN THE MANAGEMENT AND THE COUNCIL'S PURVIEW AND NOT PART OF A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE POLICE ASSOCIATION AND, UH, THE CITY, UH, THAT, THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE, UH, A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THE OPO. I WANT TO STRENGTHEN IT IN POLICY. I HAVE NO CONCERNS WHATSOEVER. LET ME MENTION SOME OF MY CONCERNS THOUGH. UH, I SUPPORTED THE LIFTING OF THE CAMPING BAN THAT THIS COUNCIL DID A FEW YEARS BACK. AND THEN, UH, I SAW IT QUICKLY UNDONE BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE. UM, I, UH, SUPPORTED THE, UH, THE CHANGES THROUGH PUBLIC SAFETY, THE, YOU KNOW, REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, AND I SAW THOSE UNDONE AGAIN IN SHORT ORDER. AND IN BOTH OF THOSE SITUATIONS, NOT ONLY WAS THE, I THOUGHT POSITIVE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN UNDONE, BUT THE ENTIRE STATE WAS PUT IN POTENTIALLY A MORE NEGATIVE POSITION, UH, BECAUSE OF THE REACTION OF [07:05:01] THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE, WHERE MONTHS AWAY FROM A LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND IT DOES GIVE ME PAUSE AS TO WHAT THE REACTION OF THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE WILL BE IN THE COMING MONTHS. I DON'T WANT TO PUT POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY VIA A NEGATIVE REACTION BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE IN A WORSE SITUATION, IN A WORSE POSITION THAN IT WAS BEFORE WE STARTED ON THIS PROCESS. UM, I, I SUPPORT THE P THE PETITION I SIGNED THE PETITION. THE IDEA ALSO WAS THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON, ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. AND I KNOW THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THE FACTORS ARE BEYOND ANYBODY'S CONTROL REALLY, BUT THE, A VOTE BY THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY A STRONG AND OVERWHELMING VOTE, LIKE WE SAW IN THE NO WAY ON PROP, A CAMPAIGN WHERE, YOU KNOW, 68% OF THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN, INCLUDING MY VOTE CAME AND STEPPED UP AND MADE THEIR WISHES FELT WITH REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, JUST THROWING A BUNCH OF MONEY AT, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY WITHOUT NEEDED CHANGES AND REFORMS. THAT WAS VERY POWERFUL. AND I THINK THAT REALLY CHANGED THE CONVERSATION IN LOCAL POLITICS IN AUSTIN POLITICS FOR, FOR THE BETTER, I WAS HOPING THAT SOMETHING SIMILAR WOULD HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER. THAT AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN COME UP AND MAKE A STRONG STATEMENT THAT THEY BELIEVE IN POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, THAT THEY BELIEVE IN OVERSIGHT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PROSPECT OF MOVING IT OUT TO MAY. I STILL THINK THAT THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL VALUE IN HAVING AN ELECTION IN MAY WHERE THE VOTERS OF AUSTIN ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. AND IN MY OPINION, I THINK WILL SPEAK WITH A, A STRONG VOICE IN SUPPORT OF THE CONTRACT. I THINK THAT EMBEDS IT WITH MORE STRENGTH AND POWER WITHIN THE CITY, THAT IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT A PETITION THAT WAS BROUGHT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PASSED BY COUNCIL, BUT A PUBLIC CAMPAIGN THAT WAS VETTED BY THE VOTERS THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE VOTERS THAT WAS PASSED BY THE VOTERS. TO ME THAT GIVES IT MORE GRAVITAS, A, A, A STRONGER PEDIGREE, AND FROM A PURELY PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION, IT ALSO GETS US OUT OF THE, THE, UH, SESSION OF THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE. AND THEY WILL BE AT THAT POINT, UNABLE TO, UH, REACT TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE UNLESS A GOVERNOR WOULD TO CALL A SPECIAL SESSION TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY UNLIKELY. SO THOSE ARE THE, THE CONFLICTING GOALS. UH, THE POLICY I HAVE, I COMPLETELY SUPPORT, I THINK IT'S THE POLITICAL STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD OF NOT JUST HOW DO WE PASS THIS BECAUSE WE'VE PASSED THINGS BEFORE ONLY TO SEE THEM UNDONE. BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE PASS THINGS AND MAKE THEM ENDURE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE FREQUENTLY LOCKING HORNS WITH THE STATE GOVERNMENT OVER THE POLICIES THAT WE TRY TO IMPLEMENT IN AUSTIN. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF IDEAS AND THOUGHTS THAT I'M GRAPPLING WITH AS WE, UH, APPROACH THIS VOTE AS KELLY. THANK YOU. UM, I BELIEVE IN TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT IN MANY FORMS, BUT I WANNA STALL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LARGELY DUE TO THE LEGAL QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THIS ITEM AND THE BURDEN, IT WOULD ULTIMATELY PLACE ON TAXPAYERS TO FIGHT IN COURT AND WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE OUTRIGHT ADOPTION OF THE ITEM. BUT I DO REMAIN OPEN TO SUPPORTING A MEASURE IN THE FUTURE THAT SEEKS TO ACCOMPLISH MORE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT YET DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH EXISTING LAWS AND WILL NOT PUT US AT RISK FROM ACTION AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THIS UPCOMING SEASON. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER MEDICINE, KA ELLIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, THIS, THIS ONE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT TOUGH FOR ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT OUR STANDARD PRECEDENT IS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF SOMETHING IS BROUGHT TO US AS A VOTER LED PETITION, THAT WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT THE, THE VOTERS' VOICES ARE HEARD AND THAT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY HAS A CHANCE TO, TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. UM, THAT BEING SAID, I'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT THAT ALSO CARE ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT. SO I'M GONNA SUPPORT ADOPTING IT OUTRIGHT TODAY, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES TO DO THAT, I, I WILL ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT IT GOING TO THE BALLOT BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THAT'S THE [07:10:01] STRENGTH OF HAVING THE VOTER APPROVAL METHOD. AND SO I FIRMLY BELIEVE IN THAT FOR THIS ONE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE. UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT ADOPTING IT TODAY. THANK YOU. YOU, I'M ALSO GOING TO, TO, TO VOTE, UH, TO, TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT IN MAY. UM, I BELIEVE REALLY STRONGLY IN POLICE OVERSIGHT. I SIGNED THIS PETITION. I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING FOR OUR CITY TO HAVE, UH, I'M MOST INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT OUR CITY HAS IT FOR, FOR THE INDEFINITE FUTURE FOR THE LONG TERM. I'M NOT SURE THERE ARE VERY MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME PERHAPS, BUT NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT DON'T SUPPORT HAVING REAL SIGNIFICANT POLICE OVERSIGHT. QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK WE THOUGHT WE HAD MORE TWO YEARS AGO THAN, THAN IT TURNED OUT THAT WE, THAT WE HAD, UH, AND WE LEARNED FROM EACH OF THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN, WE CAN AFFECT THE POLICY BETTER. UM, BUT WE DIFFER ON THE BEST STRATEGY FOR HELPING TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE THINGS FOR THE LONG TERM. I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE PART OF A COUNCIL OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS THAT HAS, UM, DECRIMINALIZED HOMELESSNESS IN THE FACE OF THE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTION THAT TOOK THE ACTIONS THAT WE TOOK IN TAKING A LOT OF PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING AND SPENDING AND, AND BROADENING OUR APPROACH SO THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY WAS MORE THAN JUST POLICING MORE THAN JUST HOW WE THOUGHT OF, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDED MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE, AND IT INCLUDED ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO KEEPING A COMMUNITY SAFE. I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE PART OF A, A COUNCIL THAT, THAT WHILE THE POLICE BUDGET IS MORE NOW THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE CITY BUDGET THAT GOES TO POLICE, FIRE AND EMS IS DOWN TO 60%. AND WHEN THE TEN ONE COUNCIL CAME INTO OFFICE, IT WAS 70% AND IT HAD BEEN RISING. I'M PROUD TO BE PART OF A COUNCIL THAT, UH, UH, DEALT WITH, UH, CURFEWS FOR KIDS AND ENDED IT. SO THE KIDS DIDN'T END UP IN THAT SYSTEM, THE PAST SECOND CHANCE HIRING THESE ARE ALL REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS CITY AND THAT WE SHOULD CELEBRATE. WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING THE FACT THAT SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY SIGNED A PETITION TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT THAT, THAT REALLY SPOKE TO THE OVERSIGHT THAT WE NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND I THINK WE SHOULD CELEBRATE HONORING THE PEOPLE WHO GATHERED THOSE PETITIONS AND DID THE WORK TO GET THOSE PETITIONS AND THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THOSE PETITIONS AND CELEBRATE THAT, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IN FACT, NOW TAKE TO THE PEOPLE FOR A, FOR A, FOR A, FOR A POPULAR, POPULAR VOTE. I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER OF VELA, UM, UH, AND COUNCILMAN POOL, UH, IN TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS THE BEST STRATEGY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, TO GET THIS AND, AND TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO HOLD ON TO THIS, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE ANOTHER CONTRACT THAT IS ENTERED BEFORE THE MAY VOTE. THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THE ISSUE OF OVERSIGHT. YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD MY CONVERSATIONS IS I URGE ALL OF YOU TO HAVE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE NEXT YEAR, AND TO ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD SNEAK IN A CONTRACT IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, OR MARCH OR APRIL, THAT DIDN'T CONTAIN A PROVISION THAT THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY WAS ABOUT TO VOTE ON IN MAY. AND EVERYONE THAT I HAVE ASKED, INCLUDING SOME OF THE, THE CANDIDATES THAT FOLKS HAVE SAID ARE PROBABLY THE MOST LIKELY TO WIN FOR MAYOR THAT HAVE SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE, THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT OVERSIGHT BECAUSE THEY SUPPORT THAT LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT. I SUPPORT THIS ACTION BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPROPER AND JUST WRONG THAT WE ENTER INTO A NEGOTIATING PROCESS WHERE DOLLARS ARE BEING NEGOTIATED IN EXCHANGE FOR OVERSIGHT AND VISA VERSA, BECAUSE WE SHOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY THE BEST OVERSIGHT PROVISION IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND WE SHOULD SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS. WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD ENACT THE BEST OVERSIGHT THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES TO HAVE, REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING ELSE. AND THEN SIMILARLY, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD PAY OUR POLICE OFFICERS MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE PAYS POLICE OFFICERS AS WE DO, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE CREAM OF [07:15:01] THE CROP. THAT'S HOW YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE, THE, THE BEST POLICING PROFESSIONALS. AND THAT SHOULD HAPPEN WITHOUT REGARD TO ANYTHING ELSE, EITHER BECAUSE THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO HAVE FOR OUR CITY. I AM CONCERNED AS I THINK MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE WITH THE, WITH THE REPORTS. WE HAVE THAT, THAT THE CULTURE THAT WE HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH. AND WHILE I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT A LOT OF THE STEPS WE'VE TAKEN IN THE ACADEMY AND OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THERE YET AS WE GOT FROM OUR THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT. UH, AND, AND WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON THAT. THAT'S ALSO NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, AND WE CAN'T LET UP ON THAT. AND WE HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT WILL COME SO LONG AS WE ARE VIGILANT. I AM ALSO CONCERNED, UH, THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE POLICE OFFICERS RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT OUR FOURTH STRENGTH FORCE STRENGTH NUMBERS EXPECT US TO HAVE, UH, IN THIS CITY. AND WE SHOULD BE MEETING THE FOUR STRAIGHT NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED, BECAUSE THERE ARE VACANCIES NOW, BOTH IN POLICE AND NINE ONE, ONE CALL RECEIVERS IN EMS IN FIRE. AND WE NEED TO FILL THOSE ROLES. WE'LL GET TO ITEM NUMBER 91 LATER COLLEAGUES, BUT, BUT I THINK 91 HELPS US PRESERVE THE, THE, THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE ON THE FORCE WHILE THERE IS SOME MEASURE OF UNCERTAINTY WITH RESPECT TO, TO, TO CONTRACTS. UM, I, I, WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING TONIGHT THAT IN THIS CITY, AN ISSUE LIKE OVERSIGHT THAT HAS ALLUDED US FOR SO LONG IS NOW GOING TO BE BROUGHT EITHER IN THIS ADOPTED TODAY, IF THEIR VOTES ARE THERE, BUT WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING IT AS WELL. IF IT'S GONNA BE PUT ON THE BALLOT, OUR CITY IS GOING TO HAVE A VOTE OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO SAY REALLY STRONGLY THAT IN OUR CITY, THERE IS NOT A CONNECTION BETWEEN DOLLARS AND OVERSIGHT THAT IN OUR CITY, WE'RE GONNA SET CERTAIN OVERSIGHT STANDARDS. AND THEN, AND THEN WE'RE ALL GOING TO ABIDE BY THEM. I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO, TO, IF THIS IS GONNA GET SET IN, MAY I, I, I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO WORK FOR ITS PASSAGE, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING. UH, BUT I THINK DOING IT THAT WAY FOR ME IS, IS OUR BEST CHANCE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE OVERSIGHT A YEAR FROM NOW AND 10 YEARS FROM NOW AND 20 YEARS FROM NOW. SO THAT'S HOW I'M GONNA VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER MEDICINE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. MAY I ASK ONE OF THE ADVOCATES TO COME UP? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YES, YOU CAN. MR. MOORE, WOULD YOU MIND JOINING US AT THE PODIUM? THAT'S A GOOD BACK RUB UP THERE, MR. TURNER. . SO, UM, BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTION, MAYBE I'LL PREFACE IT WITH MY RATIONALE. I, I, UM, WHILE I WOULD SUP IF, IF THIS DOES NOT PASS WHEN I, I REALLY HOPE IT DOES, BUT IF IT DOESN'T, UM, I WILL SUPPORT IT GOING ON THE BALLOT IN MAY, BUT A PART OF MY VERY STRONG COMMITMENT HERE, DESPITE OUR RESERVATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, UM, AVERSION TO, TO STATE LEVEL RISK STUFF. I, UM, I READ THAT ARTICLE THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE FIRST PASS OF AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT RACISM HAS COST THE CITY OF AUSTIN MM-HMM . AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID IT COULD TAKE A DECADE OR MORE TO REALLY MAKE THE ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE VALUE OF THAT IS. AND EVER SINCE I READ THAT, I'VE JUST BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RECONCILIATION AND ATONEMENT, AND HOW DO WE DO THAT AS A COMMUNITY WHERE NOBODY FEELS LIKE SOMEBODY TOOK SOMETHING FROM THEM, YOU KNOW, IT IN A WAY THAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THE TRUE HARM AND DAMAGE THAT ANTI-BLACK RACISM, WHITE SUPREMACY AND SEGREGATION HAVE CAUSED OUR CITY. UM, I SAY THAT TO SAY, IN CASES LIKE THIS, I FEEL A DEEP COMMITMENT AND OBLIGATION FOR US AS A BODY TO EVEN IF JUST SYMBOLICALLY, YOU KNOW, I GOTTA TELL YOU AS A POLICYMAKER, I SOMETIMES DON'T LOVE IT WHEN WE DO THINGS THAT ARE JUST SYMBOLIC, BUT THAT DEBT THAT I WAS MAKING REFERENCE TOO EARLIER, UM, WE OWE, WE HAVE A DEBT AND I CAN'T HELP, BUT WONDER IF IT'S APPROPRIATE AND EVEN PRUDENT FOR US TO TAKE AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT SYMBOLICALLY [07:20:01] BY WAY OF THE MOVES THAT WE MAKE FROM THIS DAIS. AND SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO CLARIFY FOR FOLKS WATCHING WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS BETWEEN THE ITEM GOING FORWARD TODAY AND GOING FORWARD ON A MAY BALLOT AND ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY TO PREFACE THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, UM, SHORT ON TIME. SO I'LL, UH, I'LL TRUST YOU TO YEAH. YEAH. I I'LL, YOU I'LL KEEP IT QUICK. UM, YEAH, YOU, UM, YOU ALL HAVE SEEN ME, UM, UP HERE A LOT OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, UM, I MADE THE, THE MORAL ARGUMENTS, UH, MADE THE, UM, THE BLACK ARGUMENTS AND DEFENSE OF BLACK LIVES. UM, YEAH, SO I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS, UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY THIS AND THEN I'LL GO WATCH FOOTBALL. UM, NEXT YEAR WILL BE 10 YEARS OF, UM, THE MOVEMENT FOR BLACK LIVES. IT STARTED IN 2013, UM, AND IT'S BEEN, UM, AN HONOR AND A HEADACHE AND A PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH MANY OF YOU, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE I'VE STARTED COMING IN THIS CHAMBER. UM, AND IT SURE HAS BEEN A HELL OF A PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU. UM, AND I CAN SAY IN, IN THE, IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, IR, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TODAY, I WILL FEEL DIFFERENT WAYS IF THIS GOES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT, UM, IRRE, REGARDLESS OF THAT, I THINK WE MADE SOME TREMENDOUS STRIDES. UM, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT, UM, I'LL SAY A COUPLE THINGS THAT, YEAH, SO, UM, COUNCILWOMAN HAR MEDICINE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. UM, SHE BROUGHT UP NOOKS, UM, CHARLES BIRD'S, UM, RESTITUTION ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON. UM, AND, AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT, THAT THIS POLICY, UM, THIS OVERSIGHT POLICY IS PART OF THAT RESTITUTION PACKAGE, UM, LIKE TO HELL WITH THE 10 YEARS OF BLACK LIVES MATTER. LET'S GO BACK TO LIKE THE NINETIES AND THE EIGHTIES WITH THE SOPHIA KINGS AND ALL THESE OTHER FOLKS THAT WERE, UM, VICTIMS AT THE HANDS OF POLICE VIOLENCE. UM, SO LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESTITUTION, I DO THINK THERE'S A FINANCIAL COMPONENT WITH THAT. UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THERE ARE BLACK AND BROWN AND POOR WHITE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HARMED BY THE INSTITUTION OF THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS OWED THIS POLICY. UM, I WOULD ALSO SUBMIT, I WOULD SUBMIT THIS IDEA AND, AND MAYOR, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT, LIKE YOU'VE BEEN MY GUY, LIKE AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE TWITTER TROLL SAY. IT'S ALL KIND OF MEMES ABOUT US DOING ALL KIND OF PRECARIOUS THINGS. UM, AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO TONIGHT, UM, YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE MY GUY. I, I CAN BE DISAPPOINTED AND WE CAN STILL SHAKE IT OFF. EVERYBODY UP HERE WILL BE MY GUY AND GAL OR WHATEVER YOU IDENTIFY AS. UM, BUT I, I DO THINK, I DO THINK, UM, OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, UM, AND YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR LAST DANCE AS THIS CITY COUNCIL TODAY. THIS IS OUR LAST DANCE WHEN IT COMES TO A, A BIG POLICE THING. UM, COME JANUARY WHEN THAT GUY'S GONE, GREG IS GONE. SOME OF YOU MAY BE REPLACED. THIS IS OUR LAST DANCE WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, A BIG POLICE THING, UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN POOL. I REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS WITH THE POLICE CONTRACT STUFF. YOU AND I HAD A VERY LONG ZOOM MEETING. WE TALKED THROUGH THAT, UM, CUZ I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT WAS DIFFICULT FOR YOU. UM, AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU MADE THE RIGHT DECISION, RIGHT? AND I THINK WE LEARNED FROM 2017, UM, THAT THIS HAS NEVER BEEN LIKE WE HATE THE COPS ISSUE AND YOU KNOW, I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HARPER, MADISON AND COUNCILWOMAN KITCHEN, YOU STARTED OFF, UM, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN IN THE UNIFORM. LIKE WE CAN ALL AGREE WITH THAT. UM, I JUST WENT TO BREAKFAST WITH THE APO A, I MEAN THE, THE POLICE ASSOCIATION THING LIKE TWO OR THREE DAYS AGO AND THE FIRST THING I SAID, I, I WANT, I WANTED THEM TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO THANK THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SHUT THE STREET DOWN, UM, ON SUNDAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS COULD PAY OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO, UM, THE, UM, A FRIEND THAT WE LOST, UM, DRE DRE DAY, THE DJ THAT WAS STABBED DOWNTOWN. UM, THE POLICE DIDN'T COME UP. THEY DIDN'T ARGUE WITH ANYBODY. THEY SHUT THE STREET DOWN. AND IF I'M BEING HONEST, WE WERE DOING SOME, I THINK ILLEGAL THINGS. THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. THEY SHUT THE STREET DOWN AND MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY COULD MOURN TOGETHER. HOWEVER, THIS IS THE THING I CAN'T GET OUTTA MY HEAD. THIS IS THE ONE MESSAGE I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO CONVEY TO YOU ALL. HOW LONG WILL THE INCREDIBLY BAD GUYS AND GALS AND UNIFORM GET TO HIDE [07:25:01] BEHIND THE GOOD ONES? LIKE AT SOME POINT AT, AT, AT, AT SOME POINT, AT SOME POINT, AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO LIKE, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND REALIZE THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF GOOD MEN AND WOMEN THAT BEAR THAT UNIFORM, THAT DESPITE THE PEOPLE THAT SPIT AT THEM AND HITS AT THEM, THEY GO OUT AND DO THEIR JOB. EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THEIR ACTUAL EXISTENCE. THEY STILL, THERE ARE POLICE OFFICERS THAT STILL SHAKE MY HAND THAT WILL STILL GO HAVE COFFEE WITH ME. AND I COMMEND THAT. HOWEVER, THIS APO A ACT IS ABOUT THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SET AT SEVENTH OR EIGHTH AND 35 AND WAS SHOOTING BEAN BAGS AT INNOCENT PEOPLE THAT TOOK LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE THAT CAUSED HARM AND BROKE ALL TRUSTS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND SERVE. THAT'S WHAT THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT. IT'S NEVER ABOUT THE GOOD, THE GOOD GUYS AND GALS LIKE EVEN, UM, CHIEF CHICON HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB. HE PROBABLY HAS THE HIGHEST, UM, UM, RECORD OF, OF ACTUALLY DISCIPLINE COPS. AND IT'S NOT A HOT NUMBER, BUT HE STILL HAS DONE MORE THAN A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE. AND I COMMEND HIM FOR THAT. BUT HOWEVER, IT IS JUST LIKE THINGS LIKE TODAY, THIS POLITICAL, I DON'T WANNA SAY THEATER BECAUSE I KNOW YOU, I KNOW YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. HOWEVER, TO GO BACK TO MY LAST DANCE ANALOGY, I'M ASKING YOU TO BE PHIL JACKSON ONE MORE TIME OR MICHAEL JORDAN DEPEND ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. BUT, UM, AESTHETICALLY, YOU LOOK MORE LIKE PHIL JACKSON. UM, I'M ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE IN THIS SIMPLE NOTION THAT AUSTIN HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE LEADER IN HOW WE ADDRESS POLICE REFORM. AND I THINK IF WE DON'T DO THIS TONIGHT, I, I DO THINK WE TAKE A STEP BACK BECAUSE OF THIS ONE EXAMPLE, ONE, I DON'T THINK IT'S OUR DUTY AS A CITY OF AUSTIN TO WORRY ABOUT THE RACE OF A GUY THAT HAS ALREADY LOST THREE RACES. IF HE CAN'T WIN THAT RACE, THAT'S NOT ON US ALSO. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DO NOT AGREE BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME FOLKS IN THE, IN THE UNION. I DO NOT THINK WE WILL HAVE A CONTRACT THAT IS GOING TO HAVE, UH, UH, UH, UH, OVERSIGHT SYSTEM THAT IS HALFWAY DECENT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE. AND I NEED YOU TO WANT FOR ONE MORE TIME FOR ONE MORE TIME. THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE I THINK WE, I THINK WE MUST THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT IF WE DON'T PASS THIS AND WE HAVE TO WAIT THREE TO FOUR TO FIVE YEARS, ANOTHER CONTRACT THINK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF ANOTHER BLACK OR BROWN OR WHITE WHOEVER PERSON BEING HARMED BY THE POLICE. AND ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2022, WE DIDN'T SET UP THE THING WE KNOW CAN GIVE US THE SYSTEM TO HANDLE THAT ISSUE. SO WE TELL THAT MOTHER TOO, LET'S JUST KICK IT. LET'S WAIT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET OVERSIGHT. NOW, UNLIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE BEHIND ME, SOME ARE GONNA BOO IN HIS AND MAKE OTHER WEIRD NOISES. WHEN YOU ALL TAKE A VOTE, IF IT DOES NOT GO THEIR WAY, I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT. I KNOW YOU ALL ARE HUMAN. YOU ALL HAVE TO MAKE TERRIBLE, TERRIBLY HARD DECISIONS ALL THE TIME. I DO THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS THOUGH. I THINK THIS IS A SPECIAL MOMENT. LIKE THE, THE LEG, THE LEGISLATOR'S GONNA DO WHATEVER THEY DO ANYWAY. THEY LITERALLY HATE THE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO IF WE'RE GONNA, SO I WOULD JUST SAY THIS, IF YOU'RE GONNA VOTE, NO, IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE OF THAT. CUZ ONE THING I'VE LOVED ABOUT THIS CITY, AND ONE THING I CONTINUE TO LOVE ABOUT THIS CITY IS THAT WE ALWAYS DO THE VERY DIFFICULT THING. WE ALWAYS PUSH THE ENVELOPE. I HEAR THE LEGAL ARGUMENT, BUT THE LAW IS MEANT TO BE CHALLENGED. THERE ARE STILL LAWS ON A BOOK THAT SAYS I'M NOT QUITE HUMAN. SO WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT LAW AND LEGAL LEAVE, IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, ALL OF YOU ALL, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS JOB SUCKS. YOU TALK ABOUT THANKLESS. THIS IS MORE THANKLESS THAN WHAT THEY DO, CUZ THEY GOT PEOPLE THAT THANK THEM ALL THE TIME. THEY HAVE PEOPLE THANKING THEM FOR DOING WHAT THEY DID TO THE PROTESTORS IN 2020. SO AGAIN, LET'S NOT LET THE BAD COPS, THE COPS THAT BREAK THE TRUST BETWEEN PUBLIC SERVANTS AND THE COMMUNITY HIDE BEHIND THE GOOD ONES CUZ THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THEIR INCEPTION. THANK THAT FROM THE KITCHEN. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE THING I, I DO, I, I RESPECT, UH, EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE, BUT I DO WANNA SHARE SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T UH, SPEAK TO BEFORE. UM, AND, AND THAT IS THE LEGISLATURE. I, I THINK THAT WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO AND, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT ON A NUMBER OF OTHER ISSUES, [07:30:01] UH, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO RECENTLY AND WE MUST CONTINUE TO DO IT. WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE IN AUSTIN. AND IF WE, IF WE DIDN'T DO THINGS BECAUSE OF THE LEGISLATURE, WE SERIOUSLY, WE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO DO, THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO REGARDLESS OF HOW WE VOTE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT TO ME, IT JUST COMES DOWN TO, AS I SAID BEFORE, OVERSIGHT TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY IS FUNDAMENTAL. IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR IT TO BE NEGOTIATED. SO I THINK IT'S TIME TO JUST SAY THAT AND, AND ACT ON IT. AND UM, I, I THINK WE RISK THE SAME THING. THE LEGISLATURE'S GONNA DO WHATEVER THEY DO, WHETHER WE DO THIS NOW OR NOT. AND SO I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE TO, TO STAND UP FOR THE PEOPLE IN AUSTIN AND, AND STAND UP AND NOT BE AFRAID OF WHAT THE LEGISLATURE MIGHT DO BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA DO IT ANYWAY. GTO CAVE. I APPRECIATE CHA'S COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY ABOUT AP D. UH, I'VE BEEN PRACTICING CRIMINAL, CRIMINAL LAW AND TRAVIS COUNTY FOR 12 YEARS NOW. UH, AND I'VE PRACTICED, I'VE DEFENDED PEOPLE, MAYBE 25 COUNTIES, MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS, MULTIPLE POLICE DEPARTMENTS. I'VE WATCHED. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY VIDEOS, YOU KNOW, FROM POLICE CARS AND FROM BODY CAM VIDEOS AND, AND APDS FOLKS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY WELL TRAINED, HAVE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN COMPARISON TO A LOT OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHERE I'VE SEEN THOSE POLICE OFFICERS, I'VE SEEN THE WAY THEY INTERACT WITH PEOPLE. UH, AGAIN, NOT SAY APD IS PERFECT. OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT, BUT, UH, I WILL SAY THAT THEY ARE MUCH BETTER THAN A LOT OF THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT I HAVE SEEN, UH, THROUGHOUT MY, MY, UH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE CAREER. UH, AND I DO APPRECIATE, UH, THEIR WORK AND DESPITE, YOU KNOW, PUSHING FOR OVERSIGHT, DESPITE PUSHING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, DESPITE THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT. I, I, I, I THINK, I THINK I LIKE THE, THE BALANCE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT CHAS STRUCK. UH, AND I DO WANNA REITERATE THE MARY'S COMMENTS. I KNOW HE'S NOT GONNA BE WITH US WHEN THE CONTRACT COMES UP SOMETIME IN 2023, BUT I WILL NOT BE VOTING TO SUPPORT A CONTRACT. ASSUMING THAT WE PUSH THIS TO THE MAY ELECTION, I WILL NOT BE VOTING TO SUPPORT A CONTRACT THAT DOES NOT CONTAIN THE PROTECTIONS THAT THE, UH, THE, THAT ARE IN THE PETITION RIGHT NOW. AND THIS BODY HAS REJECTED A POLICE CONTRACT BEFORE. AND IF WE DO KICK IT TO THE ELECTION, UH, I THINK WE'RE PREPARED TO, UH, REJECT A, A POLICE CONTRACT THAT DOES NOT CONTAIN THE PROTECTIONS CONTAINED WITHIN THE WRITTEN INTO THE PETITION. I'M GONNA SAY I, UM, TO, TO CHAZ, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR HOURS LEADING UP TO TONIGHT AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR HOURS AFTER TONIGHT. UM, AND, AND I HAVE HAD NO GREATER CRITIC OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS THAN YOU, BUT I HAVE ALWAYS APPRECIATED THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME. I WANNA, I WANT TO TALK FOR A SECOND ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE APA AND THE CONTRACT, BECAUSE IT GOES TO THE HEART OF WHY I'M CASTING THE VOTE, THE WAY THAT I'M CASTING THE VOTE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER APA AGREES TO A CONTRACT OR NOT THIS FALL OR NEXT SPRING OR AFTER THAT. CLEARLY MY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH APA HAS NOT BEEN GREAT EVERY TIME I, I LOOK AT, UH, APAS, TWITTER FEEDS. I, I SEEM TO STAR IN THEM FROM TIME TO TIME. I DON'T KNOW. UH, BUT I, BUT I DID SAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT I DOUBTED THERE WOULD BE A CONTRACT COMING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THE, UH, APA AND ASSOCIATION WOULD WANNA BRING A CONTRACT BACK NEXT YEAR TO THE NEXT COUNCIL. [07:35:01] I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S GONNA PLAY OUT THAT WAY. THAT WOULD STILL BE MY GUESS. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE APA WILL AGREE TO A CONTRACT NEXT SPRING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THE APA WILL AGREE TO A CONTRACT THAT HAS SUBSTANTIAL OVERSIGHT IN IT. AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL, EVEN IN ITS ITERATION NEXT SPRING IS GONNA PASS A CONTRACT THAT DOESN'T HAVE REAL SUBSTANTIAL OVERSIGHT IN IT. AND QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN I TALK TO OFFICERS IN THE STREET ABOUT THE OVERSIGHT ISSUES THAT ARE AT PLAY HERE RIGHT NOW, MAKING SURE THAT, THAT THERE IS SOME GREATER OVERSIGHT BY THE MONITOR, MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN FEEL MORE INVOLVED IN, IN THAT OVERSIGHT, THAT, THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CHIEF HAS ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE, UH, WHETHER OR NOT HE IS GONNA OFFER DISCIPLINARY ACTION AND WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE PUBLIC HAS AN INTEREST IN SEEING CHARGES THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE NOT SUBSTANTIATED. MOST OF THE OFFICERS I TALK TO ARE FINE WITH THE POSITIONS THAT ARE TAKEN IN THIS PETITION. I OBVIOUSLY CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL OFFICERS AND I HAVEN'T DONE A SCIENTIFIC POLL, BUT GOING BACK TO THE APA, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE APA AGREES TO A CONTRACT, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A CONTRACT THAT GETS PASSED BEFORE MAY THAT DOESN'T HAVE SUBSTANTIAL POLICE OVERSIGHT. AND WHEN THIS PASSES IN MAY, IF IT GOES TO ELECTION IN MAY, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE APA AGREES TO A CONTRACT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT, THAT HAS THE PROVISIONS FOR OVERSIGHT, THAT THAT ELECTION WOULD MAKE THE LAW IN THIS CITY. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY WOULD OR NOT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, OR IF THAT HAPPENS. AND OUR CITY DOES NOT GO INTO A FORMAL CONTRACT, CUZ WE CAN'T MAKE THE APA AGREE TO A CONTRACT ANY MORE THAN THE APA CAN MAKE US AGREE TO A CONTRACT. BUT IF DO TWO SIDES DO NOT AGREE ON A CONTRACT, THEN WE MOVE INTO SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED A CHAPTER 1 43 CONTRACT. THE STATE TELLS US WHAT OUR CONTRACT IS AND THAT CONTRACT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE CITY AND IT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE OFFICERS. AND WE CAN HAVE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT WHETHER IT'S WORTH FOR US WORSE FOR US OR WORSE FOR THE OFFICERS. YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK IN A LOT OF RESPECTS, IT'S WORSE FOR THE OFFICERS AND THEY SAY IT'S WORSE FOR THE CITY. SO WE COULD FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT AND WE MOVE TO A STATE THAT IS NOT OPTIMAL FOR ANYBODY. AND WHAT HAPPENS THEN WHAT HAPPENS THEN THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE WRESTLING WITH THESE ISSUES IN THE CONTEXT OF A CHAPTER 1 43 CONTRACT. AND I HOPE THAT IF THAT SITUATION WERE TO RESOLVE HAPPEN, THAT OUR CITY WOULD HAVE THE RESOLVE TO STAND BY THE PRINCIPLE THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE NEGOTIATING FOR OVERSIGHT, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE OVERSIGHT, JUST LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE THE BEST COMPENSATION ISSUE. I HOPE WE HAVE THE RESOLVE TO WITHSTAND THAT CHAPTER 1 43 PERIOD OF TIME. AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY WILL BE BEST POSITIONED TO HAVE THAT RESOLVE AND TO FORCE THAT ISSUE AND TO STAND BY OUR PRINCIPLES AND MAKE SURE WE DELIVER TO THIS COMMUNITY, THE OVERSIGHT THAT IT DESERVES AND IT NEEDS IF OUR COMMUNITY HAS VOTED TO DO THAT. THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD CHANCE OF BEING. AND I BELIEVE THAT BY HAVING AN ELECTION IN MAY, WE'RE GONNA BE BEST POSITIONED FOR THAT. WHAT I THINK IS PERHAPS THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO I, ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK UP HERE SAY APPEAL. YES, MA. AND UH, I AGREE WITH YOU, UM, LAST TIME THAT, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS. UM, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS THAT RETIRED AND RESIGNED BECAUSE WE CUT BACK ON THEIR SICK LEAVE CARRYOVER AND, AND A LOT OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE HAD TO REDUCE AND THEY DIDN'T APPRECIATE IT AND THEY DIDN'T SIGN THE CONTRACT. THEY WENT TO CIVIL SERVICE LIKE THE MAYOR SAYING THE CHAPTER, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY VOICE, ANY, ANY, ANY POOL. WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A, ANY SAY ON WHO GOT PROMOTED. AND WE HAD A LOT OF CAPTAINS, LIEUTENANTS AND SERGEANTS THAT JUST LEFT THE, THE [07:40:01] RETIRED AND TOOK THEIR BENEFITS WITH THEM. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE SAY, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO EVALUATE 'EM IF THEY WERE REALLY QUALIFIED TO BEING THERE, ALL THEY DID WAS GROW OUT THERE. WHOEVER MADE THE HIGHEST SCORE ON THE, ON THE CIVIL SERVICE TEST GOT PROMOTED. AND THAT ONE MINORITY GOT PROMOTED DURING THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FACING AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN. YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THAT HAPPENING THAT HAPPENED THERE AND THE, THE RIOS AND THE DEMONSTRATIONS AND THE HAPPENED BECAUSE THESE OFFICERS THAT GOT IN CHARGE, WE DIDN'T WAS, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO EVALUATE THEM TO SEE IF THEY REALLY WAS CAPABLE OF RUNNING A DEPARTMENT LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THAT WAS A BIG FAILURE ON OUR END, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE FACING AGAIN. AND I JUST PRAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY BEHIND US, OF THE RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN, THEN WE BE IN A VERY STRONGER POSITION. AND, AND I JUST HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN, BUT IT'S UP TO OUR COLLEAGUES HERE DECIDING I'D RATHER PREFER TO GO TO THE VOTERS IN MAY. THERE'S A MOTION IN FRONT OF US HAS BEEN SECONDED. ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SAY ANYTHING BEFORE WE VOTE? MAYOR PROTE, UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU, UM, FOR BEING HERE AND, AND THANK YOU, UM, FOR BEING INVOLVED, UM, TRYING TO MAKE CHANGE TAKES TIME AND IT TAKES DIFFERENT FORMS AND WE CAN AGREE AND DISAGREE ON THE BEST, UM, MECHANISMS, UM, TO DO THAT. UM, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WE NEED CONSISTENT OVERSIGHT AND WE NEED TRANSPARENCY. AND IDEALLY WE ARE DELINKING THESE, UM, FROM PAY AND BENEFITS, UM, FOR BETTER OR WORSE. WE HAVE A CONTRACT PROCESS THAT IS DICTATED, UM, BY STATE LAW. UM, AND IT'S NOT A EASY AND STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, PROCESS AS I'VE LEARNED, HAVING, UM, BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE EARLIER PROCESSES WHEN THAT PROCESS WORKS WELL. UM, NO MATTER WHICH OF THE BRANCHES OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, IT ALLOWS US TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND TO ADDRESS SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE, UM, IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS CLEAR FROM LISTENING TO OUR COMMUNITY TODAY AND FOR MANY MONTHS AND YEARS PAST THAT TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT ARE CHALLENGES THAT WE NEED TO MEET, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE CONTRACT OR OTHERWISE. UM, I WANT TO PROMISE THAT I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A CONTRACT WITHOUT DECENT OVERSIGHT. AND I HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF DOING THAT. HAVING LED THE QUORUM THAT REJECTED THE CONTRACT IN 2017, WE AS A CITY, UM, HAS BEEN SAID BY OTHERS, UM, HAVE TO NAVIGATE A LOT OF THINGS, UM, TO GET TO THE CHANGE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON GETTING OUR ACADEMY REFORMED. AND I THINK WHEN WE STARTED THE PROCESS, I THINK AT TIMES PEOPLE THOUGHT, OH, WELL, WE JUST PASSED THIS THING. AND WITH OUR SNAP OF OUR FINGERS, IT'LL BE DONE. IT HASN'T WORKED THAT WAY. THIS IS A LONG R JEWISH PROCESS TO MAKE CHANGE. IT REQUIRES PARTNERS ON ALL SIDES, UM, TO GET THINGS DONE. IT REQUIRES PATIENTS AND IT REQUIRES THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU ACTUALLY MOVE THINGS FORWARD. UM, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID A LOT OF THINGS AND, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, VERY LITTLE THAT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT THAT I DISAGREE WITH PER SE. UM, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE, UM, THAT, THAT MATTERS TO ME IS THAT WE ARE GIVEN WHEN WE, WHEN WE MAKE LEGISLATION BY PETITION, WE ARE GIVEN THE CHOICE AS A COUNCIL TO ADOPT WHAT WE'VE BEEN HANDED AS WRITTEN OR TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. UM, WE DON'T GET TO CHANGE A WORD HERE OR THERE THAT WOULD MAKE US COMFORTABLE. WE DON'T GET TO CHANGE LITTLE PIECES TO, TO MAKE US, UM, MORE COMFORTABLE. THAT IS THE CHOICE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE. UM, I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS, UM, PETITION AS DRAFTED, IF WE ADOPTED IT WOULD REQUIRE US TO HAVE THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT IN THAT CONTRACT. UM, AND THAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING ANY OF THE OVERSIGHT REQUIREMENTS, UM, HAVING TO DO WITH THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT IN [07:45:01] THE CONTRACT. UM, IT SAYS THAT THE, THE, WE CAN ONLY AGREE TO AN AGREEMENT THAT FULFILLS ALL OF THE CHAPTERS. UM, DOESN'T SAY THAT DOESN'T UNDERMINE, IT SAYS FULFILLS. AND, AND THAT TO ME IS, IS, UM, CONCERNING, THERE ARE ALSO SOME OF THE MOST KEY PARTS IN THIS WE KNOW ARE ILLEGAL UNDERSTATE LAW. UM, AND SO THAT IS CONCERNING. ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, I AM COMMITTED TO STRONG OVERSIGHT. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED, UM, THE PROPOSAL AT THE TABLE THAT REMOVED ARTICLE G UM, UM, REMOVES ALL OF ARTICLE 16. SO THE OPO AND THE CITIZEN REVIEW PANEL ARE NOT PANEL ARE NOT IN THE CONTRACT, UM, RETAINING TO ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS AND THE 365 DISCOVERY REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN MAKE DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS. AND I KNOW THIS DISAPPOINTS YOU FOR NOT GETTING IT DONE IN YOUR VIEW TODAY. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD ACCOMPLISH THE LONG TERM GOAL, UM, THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE WORK FOR EVERY SINGLE DAY. IN ADDITION, I WANT TO INVITE APA TO BE AT THE TABLE AND HELP US TO MAKE THE CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE, UM, FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE CANNOT KEEP GOING WITHOUT THAT TRUST, WITHOUT THAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT. AND I'M HOPING WITH THE CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP AT THE APA, WE WILL BE ABLE, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, IN A WAY THAT CAN HELP OUR COMMUNITY LEAD AND DEMONSTRATE THAT A CITY CAN, UM, MAKE THIS KIND OF CHANGE. UM, WE'VE TAKEN BIG STEPS. WE'VE BEEN DARING BEFORE, AND I'M WILLING TO DO THAT AGAIN. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT ADOPTING THE ORDINANCE TODAY IS THAT STEP, BUT I WILL SUPPORT IT FOR THE ELECTION COLLEAGUES. WE READY TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, ON, UH, TO ADOPT, UM, ITEM NUMBER 86. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, KITCHEN LS, FUENTES, AND HARPER MADISON. THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, IT'S A BALANCE OF THE, UH, DIAS 86 DOES NOT PASS. UH, DOES ANYBODY LET [87. Approve an ordinance ordering a special municipal election to be held on May 6, 2023, to submit to the voters a proposed citizen-initiated ordinance, certified sufficient on September 7, 2022, to enact an "Austin Police Oversight Act" that will strengthen the oversight of Austin police and encourage accountability for officer misconduct and brutality; providing for the conduct of the special election; and authorizing the City Clerk to enter into joint election agreements with other local political subdivisions as may be necessa1y for the orderly conduct of the election. ] NOW CONSIDER, UM, UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, 87. SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION ON 87 COUNCIL VELA MAYOR I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS IT ON FIRST READING AT THE MOMENT, UH, GIVEN LAWS REVIEW OF BALLOT LANGUAGE. I DON'T WANNA PASS IT ON ALL THREE READINGS AT THIS POINT, JUST AT AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. UH, DO YOU RECOMMEND TO US THAT YOU'RE PREPARED TO, TO PASS IT TODAY, TO CALL THE ELECTION? YOU CAN DO IT ON ALL THREE READINGS WITH SEVEN VOTES. THE BALLOT LANGUAGE IS IN THE ORDINANCE MM-HMM . SO I KNOW YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. UM, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, THAT'S ON THE PETITION, THEN YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT TODAY. MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN HAS THE PUBLIC HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE? YES, IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. IT'S BEEN IN BACKUP SINCE WE POSTED IT. SO IS IT IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THE IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IS IN THE PETITION ITSELF? IT'S THE LANGUAGE IS CONTAINED IN THE PETITION, UH, WHICH THE COURTS HAVE TOLD US RECENTLY IS THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE TO USE, UH, ABSENT, UH, A REASON THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE MM-HMM . AND THEN IF, IF I MAY JUST TO BE CLEAR THEN, SO WE'RE OKAY. UH, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE BALLOT LANGUAGE. IF WE PASS IT ON ALL THREE READINGS TODAY, WE'RE WE'RE READY TO SET IT FOR THE MAY ELECTION. THAT'S CORRECT. COUNCIL MEMBER. IF YOU PASS IT TODAY, IF YOU PASS THE ORDINANCE, IF SEVEN OF YOU PASS, IT CALLS THE ELECTION, IT WILL BE THAT LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THERE. WE'RE COMFORTABLE. IT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS DRAFTED IN THE PETITION BY THOSE WHO CIRCULATED THE PETITION. IT'S BEEN IN THE PUBLIC'S EYE NOW FOR A LONG TIME. WELL THEN LET'S HAVE THE ELECTION. OKAY. BEEN A MOTION TO, UH, UM, PUT THIS ITEM, UH, ON THE BALLOT IN MAY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER. PAUL. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MEMBER. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. SO WE WENT FROM FIRST READING TO ALL THREE READINGS. THAT'S THE MOTION. THANK YOU. THAT'S CORRECT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN? I I'M, I'M JUST A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE. I, I HEAR THAT THIS IS THE LANGUAGE. WELL, I HEAR THAT THIS IS THE LANGUAGE AND THE PETITION. I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYBODY, IF THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. I DON'T WANNA CALL 'EM UP BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'RE VERY DISAPPOINTED. SO, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW. I MIGHT JUST ABSTAIN ON THAT. [07:50:01] SO THANK YOU. WELL, LET'S CHECK EVERYBODY'S COMFORT LEVEL ON THIS MAYOR PROTON. UM, I HAD A QUESTION FOR LEGAL SINCE THE ELECTION WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL MAY. IF WE PASSED IT ON ALL THREE READINGS AND THEN THE COUNCIL DECIDED THAT SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE CHANGED FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, IN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME WHERE WE EDIT THE LANGUAGE DON'T WE, ONCE YOU ACTUALLY CALL THE ELECTION, YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE. OKAY. SO THE BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THERE RIGHT NOW IN THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN BACKUP, SAYS, SHALL THE VOTERS OF AUSTIN ADOPT AN INITIATED ORDINANCE THAT WILL DETER POLICE MISCONDUCT AND BRUTALITY BY STRENGTHENING THE CITY'S SYSTEM OF INDEPENDENT AND TRANSPARENT CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT? THAT'S WHERE KELLY. YEAH. UM, SO IF, IF THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE ADOPTING AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AND, UM, DO WE HAVE TO, UM, PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT TODAY OR IS OUR DEADLINE FEBRUARY SO THAT WE CAN WORK OUT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE? THE DEADLINE IS NOT UNTIL FEBRUARY THE DEAD, THE DEADLINES, LISTEN, LISTEN, WHAT SHE'S SAYING, THE, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE TO PASS IT TODAY, THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME AND TIMES PASSED. THE COUNCIL HAS SAID, WE, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA CALL THE ELECTION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ADOPT THE ORDINANCE OUTRIGHT, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA CALL ACTUALLY CALL THE ELECTION UNTIL LATER YOU, YOU COULD DO IT THAT WAY, IF YOU WANT, OH, SOME ADDITIONAL TIME WOULD GIVE US TIME TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ORGANIZE THE PETITION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CAPTURING THE APPROPRIATE BALLOT LANGUAGE. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO HEAR. THANK YOU, KAMAR. ALICE. I JUST HAD A THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO. I KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL BE NEW TO THE DIAS WHEN, WHEN IT ACTUALLY IS GOING ON THE BALLOT. AND I JUST WONDER IF IT'S HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MOST CURRENT INPUT. I LIKE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE. I'M JUST TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PREEMPTIVELY THINK ABOUT HAVING NEW MEMBERS ON THE DIAS AND TRYING TO BE FAIR TO THAT PROCESS. SAY, HEY, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, COUNSELOR PAUL. I THINK WE ARE LIMITED, UM, BY A STATUTE ON WHAT WE CAN PUT ON THE BALLOT AND WE ARE GUIDED AND, UH, HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THE SPECIFIC GUARDRAILS OF THE PETITION LANGUAGE, WHICH IS WHY OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS EMPHASIZING THAT IT IS WORD FOR WORD AS IS DRAWN FROM THE PETITION. AND WHEN THE PETITIONERS PUT THE PETITION TOGETHER, THEY THINK IN TERMS OF, IF IT HAS TO BE ON A BALLOT, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WANT, UH, TO BE ON THE BALLOT, WHICH IS WHY I SUPPORT, UH, GOING THAT DIRECTION. WE HAVE, UH, IN PAST INSTANCES, VEERED FROM ADOPTING SPECIFICALLY AND WORD FOR WORD, WHAT THE, THE PETITION CAPTION HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. AND WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, NOT QUITE RIGHT. THE, IS THAT FOR BOND ONLY THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT FOR THE ELECTION. IT'S UM, WE HAVE BEEN SUED IN THE PAST. AND SO THE SUPREME COURT HAS RULED ON THE ISSUE. WE, WE CERTAINLY KNOW HOW TO CRAFT BALLOT LANGUAGE IN THIS LANGUAGE, I THINK IS, IS LANGUAGE. THAT IS THE LANGUAGE THAT THE PETITIONERS WANTED, WHICH WAS THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE. WE, WE ARE KIND OF BOUND NOT ONLY BY WHAT THE PETITIONERS HAVE GIVEN US, BUT ALSO BY THE PROTOCOLS AND THE STATUTES AND THE EXPECTATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, UM, AT THE STATE LEVEL, IN THE VARIOUS JUDICIAL AND EXTRA JUDICIAL SITUATIONS, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE LANGUAGE THE PETITIONERS PUT TOGETHER. I THINK IT WAS VERY THOUGHTFULLY WRITTEN AND WOULD SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT LANGUAGE TONIGHT AS OUR KITCHEN. UH, I WOULD, UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE I THINK I'M HEARING THAT THAT'S WHAT THE FOLKS ARE WANTING AND I'M SEEING SOME THUMBS UP. I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION. SO I'M SEEING THUMBS UP. SO I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS FINE. MOTION IN FRONT OF US IS TO APPROVE, UH, THIS, UH, ITEM, UH, 87 TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. UH, IF THERE ARE SEVEN VOTES, IT'LL BE, UH, PASSED ON THIRD READING, READY TO TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR, PUTTING IT ON THE BALLOT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED I'M ABSTAINING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY IS ABSTAINING. THE OTHERS VOTING. I, THIS MATTER IS PUT ON THE BALLOT WITH THE LANGUAGE IS PROPOSED BY THE PETITIONERS. UM, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS A REALLY BIG POLICE THING, UH, FOR OUR CITY TO PUT THIS ON THE, THE BALLOT FOR THE COMMUNITY, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. AND WE EXPECT, UH, OUR, OUR COUNCIL AND OUR CITY AND OUR LEADERSHIP TO STAND BY IT. [91. Approve a resolution directing the City Manager regarding compensation and benefits for Austin Police Department Police Officers if Council places a petition initiative known as the Austin Police Oversight Act on the May 2023 ballot.] UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 91 COLLEAGUES BECAUSE OF THE TIMING ASSOCIATED WITH [07:55:01] THIS OUR CONTRACT. WELL, LET ME SAY I, I'M GONNA MOVE PASSAGE OF 91 AND IF THERE'S A SECOND, I'LL SPEAK TO IT. BRIEFLY. COUNCIL MEMBER PULL SECONDS THAT COLLEAGUES, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, TIMING OF THIS, OUR CONTRACT RIGHT NOW IS IN NEGOTIATIONS. AND IT COULD BE THAT THERE'S A CONTRACT BROUGHT TO US AS I'VE EXPRESSED EARLIER. MY PERSONAL BELIEF IS THAT WE, WE MAY NOT SEE THAT. AND IF WE DON'T SEE THAT AND WE FALL OUT A CONTRACT AND THE CONTRACT IS AUTOMATICALLY EXTENDED TO THE END OF MARCH OR SOMETIME IN MARCH, I THINK IT'S THE END OF MARCH. UM, IF THAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF MARCH, WE FALL INTO THE CHAPTER 1 43 CONTRACT. WE FALL INTO CHAPTER 1 43 CONTRACT, UH, WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD CUZ NOW WE'RE USING THE STATE'S CONTRACT, WHICH MEANS THE, THE, THE, THE CONTRACT PROVISIONS FALL OFF. UM, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS PERHAPS IN OUR CITY THAT ARE LOOKING AT THAT EVENT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND PLAN FOR THEIR FUTURES. I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT, UH, COLLEAGUES THAT WE GET PAST MAY WITHOUT ANY POLICE OFFICER ON OUR FORCE, UH, UH, WONDERING FOR A MOMENT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR BENEFITS WHILE THIS IS PLAYING OUT, UH, ESPECIALLY, AND SPECIFICALLY THE PAYOUT FOR SICK LEAVE, UH, CRUEL. UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR OFFICERS KNOW THAT, UM, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM. UH, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR CAREERS, UH, HERE WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, WITHOUT HAVING, UH, ALL THE INFORMATION. SO ITEM NUMBER 91 IS TO EXTEND THOSE BENEFITS THROUGH THE END OF MAY GETTING PAST THE ELECTION. UH, AND SO THAT OUR OFFICERS, UH, UM, UM, HAVE, HAVE CERTAINTY, UH, IN THAT, UH, A WEEK PERIOD OF TIME BETWEEN, UH, MARCH AND THE END OF MAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION LET'S TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED IT'S UNANIMOUS ON THE DIAS NUMBER 91 PASSES. UM, OKAY. THAT IS THE POLICING MATTERS. IT GETS US, I THINK, BACK TO, UH, GASMAN BOWL HOUSE AND THE, UH, OH, NO, I'M SORRY. LICENSE PLATE READER. YES. WE'RE GONNA CALL UP NEXT. UM, UM, COUNCIL, MARK KELLY. YOU WANNA LAY THAT UP? UM, [56. Approve a resolution directing the City Manager to identify funding in the amount of $114,775 in Fiscal Year 2021-2022 to reinstate the license plate reader program at the Austin Police Department, include funding in the upcoming Fiscal Year 2022-2023 budget for continuation of the program, return to Council with any necessary actions for Council to appropriate the funding for this purpose, re-evaluate and implement appropriate changes to the former policy on license plate readers, and work with the Office of the Police Oversight and coordinate community input sessions related to the policy.] WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION ON TUESDAY WHERE SOME AMENDMENTS WERE PROPOSED AND I HAD BROUGHT FORWARD A NEW VERSION OF THE LICENSE PLATE, RADAR RESOLUTION WITH ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT COLLECTIVELY WE HAVE GIVEN ONE ANOTHER AS COLLEAGUES, AND THEN THAT WE HAVE ALSO GOTTEN BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND, UM, I WANNA THANK COUNCIL MEMBER VILLA FOR BRINGING FORWARD A MOTION, UM, ON THIS ITEM WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE HE COULD TALK US THROUGH IT AND THEN WE COULD ASK QUESTIONS AS A WAY OF TEEING THIS ITEM BACK UP. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY, I'M GOING TO, UH, I WANNA LET YOU MAKE THE, DO YOU WANNA MAKE THE BASE MOTION SUBJECT TO HIS AMENDMENTS? OKAY. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OR I MOVE TO PASS ITEM 56, ITEM 56, VERSION THREE. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION GUYS? HER KITCHEN SECONDS TO THAT MOTION. OKAY. UM, COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH KELLY'S OFFICE, UH, I'M I'M IN SUPPORT AND I WILL ONLY SUPPORT A THREE MINUTE RETENTION PERIOD ON THE A L P UH, WE HAVE NEGOTIATED OUTSIDE OF THAT. THERE WERE OTHER LIKE THE AUDIT LANGUAGE. THERE WERE JUST OTHER KIND OF DETAILS, UH, OVERSIGHT. UH, THE OTHER LIMITATION THAT SHE AGREED TO, UH, WITH THE WERE, WOULD ONLY USE A PS FOR WARRANTS, FOR CLASS, A MISDEMEANORS AND ABOVE. AND SO IT WOULD BE FOR CLASS A MISDEMEANORS, UH, AND THEN FELONIES, IT WOULD NOT BE USED FOR CLASS B MISDEMEANORS. IT WOULD NOT BE USED FOR CLASS C MISDEMEANORS AND IT WOULD NOT BE USED FOR ANY CIVIL, YOU KNOW, TICKETS OR VIOLATIONS. AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE, UH, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR ANYTHING INVOLVING A HATE CRIME, UH, THAT, SO THE, THE FRIENDLY, UH, AMENDMENT THAT I JUST PASSED OUT INCORPORATES ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE AGREED ON. UH, AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT I WILL DISTRIBUTE IN JUST A SECOND, THAT WILL STRICTLY LIMIT THE A TO, UH, THREE MINUTES THAT'S AND THAT'S NOT AN AMENDMENT THAT, THAT SHE CAN ACCEPT. UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LAY OUT THE, THE PATH FORWARD FOR, FOR THE DAYS. OKAY. SO WE'RE [08:00:01] GONNA CONSIDER ALL THE AMENDMENTS FIRST, EXCEPT FOR THE THREE MINUTES. CAN SEC, IF IT'S A QUESTION I WAS JUST ASKING, SO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN AGAIN FOR, FOR THIS I A SPECIFIC QUESTION? YEAH. OKAY. GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER, BELLA. I'M HOPING, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS YOU JUST SAID. DID YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE NEGOTIATING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S OFFICE AND CAME TO AGREEMENTS ON CERTAIN PROVISIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TIMING? THAT'S CORRECT. UH, THE ONE AREA THAT WE COULD NOT AGREE IS THAT SHE WANTS TO KEEP THE 30 DAY RETENTION AND I WANTED TO BE A THREE MINUTE RETENTION. BASICALLY MY, THE ONLY A L P R ORDINANCE THAT I WILL SUPPORT IS ONE WHERE THERE IS NO RETENTION OF DATA. ESSENTIALLY THE ONLY A L P ORDINANCE THAT I WILL SUPPORT IS ONE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PUTTING IN, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR FELONY WARRANTS, YOUR STOLEN VEHICLES, AND IT WILL ALERT YOU IF THERE IS A LICENSE PLATE WHERE IT'S ALREADY ON THE HOT LIST, I WILL NOT SUPPORT, UH, ANY ORDINANCE THAT THAT'S. OH, SEE. OKAY. YEAH. I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON IT CUZ YOU SHARED IT IN THE PAST. WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THE MOST RECENT VERSION WE GOT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY INCORPORATES AMENDMENTS FROM YOU THAT SHE'S AGREED TO, IS THAT, IS THAT THE SITUATION? SO THAT ONE, SO THE MOST RECENT ONE WE HAVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER, KELLY HAS YOUR AMENDMENTS EXCEPT FOR THE THREE MINUTE. SO THE MOST RECENT VERSION THAT I DISTRIBUTED, WHICH DID GO OUT ON THE, ON THE, FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW ALSO HAS A COUPLE OF TWEAKS THAT LAW LOOKED AT AT THE VERY END, NOT, NOT SUBSTANTIVE, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY WERE JUST LIKE, CHANGE THIS AND CHANGE THAT. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT DOCUMENT WE HAVE AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY ELSE'S INFORMATION, WE HAVE GOTTEN JUST LIKE SLEWS AND SLEWS AND SLEWS OF AMENDMENTS TODAY AND NEW VERSIONS OF ALMOST EVERY ITEM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THE AGENDA. SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND SO, AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT YOU DISTRIBUTED FROM YOU? YES. NOT THE ONE THAT WE GOT MOST RECENTLY FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. NOW I'M NOW I UNDERSTAND. AND TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT IS ABOUT THIS ONE. YES. AND IN A MINUTE YOU'RE GONNA DISTRIBUTE A DIFFERENT ONE. YES. A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT SEPARATE AMENDMENT ABOUT TIMING. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND TO BE CLEAR, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S MOTION IS V3. YOUR MOTION IS V3 KELLY'S MOTION V3. WHAT WE'VE BEEN HANDED OUT AND HAS IT BEEN POSTED IS SOMETHING CALLED MOTION V3 TO COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S RESOLUTION V3 MM-HMM . SO THE DOCUMENT WE SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF US HAS IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER MOTION, V3 TO COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S RESOLUTION V3. AND THIS CONTAINS A RED LINE SHOWING THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE TO KELLY V3 KELLY. THAT'S CORRECT. AND, AND I HAVE LOOKED THESE OVER REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE IN THAT THEY, THEY EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND ARE A LITTLE MORE DESCRIPTIVE. THE CHIEF HAS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM. DID YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TALK, UM, OR SPEAK TO THESE, THESE CHANGES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VELA IS PROPOSING, UH, GOOD MAYOR COUNCIL. CAN I GET A COPY OF THE, SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT GUYS THAT, THAT WE'RE ALL NOT YELLING OUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, IT MAKES IT HARD TO HEAR AND, AND, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN STAY IN HERE AND, AND WATCH AND, AND LISTEN TO WHAT'S HAPPENING, CHIEF. UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, AS COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY SAID, I HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVERT THE, UH, REVIEW THIS VERSION AND, UM, DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR OBJECTIONS TO IT ALL. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BELLA HAS MOVED, UH, TO AMEND THE MOTIONS WITH, UH, THE MOTION V3 TO COUNCIL KELLY'S RESOLUTION V3. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT OR YOU'RE ACCEPTING THESE HE'S ACCEPT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, YEAH. I'LL, I'LL ACCEPT THOSE. THESE ARE BEING ACCEPTED. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THESE GOING INTO THE BASE MOTION COUNCIL? MAY I APPROACH? SO I HAVE A QUESTION AND I'D LIKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO, TO ACTUALLY READ WHAT THE LATEST IS. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER VELA, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HATE CRIMES AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU SAID, AND THAT WAS CHANGED WITH YOUR AMENDMENT. SO I WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND THAT MY ORIGINAL VERSION DID NOT INCLUDE ANY MY ORIGINAL VERSION ONLY INCLUDED, UH, FELONIES AND CLASS, A WARRANTS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY IN DISCUSSING IT WITH HER. SHE ALSO WANTED TO INCLUDE HATE CRIMES. AND SO IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE FIVE, LINE 1 0 2, 1 0 1, 1 0 2, [08:05:03] UH, THERE, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW. OKAY, GREAT. YES. SO IT EXPLICITLY MENTIONS HATE CRIMES IN THE LIST OF CRIMES THAT WHERE THE POLICE ARE AUTHORIZED TO USE A L PS TO SEARCH FOR, UH, THE, THE, THE LICENSE. THANK YOU. I'D APPRECIATE A COUPLE MINUTES TO READ ABOUT CHIEF WANTS STUFF. COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU HAVE PLEASE? I'LL TRY TO FOCUS ON THE MORE SUBSTANTIVE ONES, UH, AND CHIEF, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT UP HERE, RIGHT? LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAGE FOUR WHERE THE, THE, UH, IT HAS A LIST OF BASICALLY KIND OF THE DATABASES THAT THE, UH, UH, A L PS WOULD USE A SPECIFIC LIST WHERE THEY WILL BE, UH, UH, UH, DRAWING THE LICENSE PLATE INFORMATION WHERE AGAIN, THE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE VEHICLES MAY BE GATHERED FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY STATE NETWORK IT'S ALERT PROGRAMS. THOSE WERE NOT NAMED AND SPECIFIED IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS. SO HERE, WE'RE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE TEXAS CENTER FOR THE MISSING THE NATIONAL CRIME INFORMATION CENTER, THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR MISSING EXPLOITED CHILDREN, THE FBI KIDNAPPING AND MISSING PERSONS LIST, UH, IT IT'S, AGAIN, A MORE SPECIFIC LIST OF WHERE, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE GETTING THE LICENSE PLATES THAT WOULD BE GOING INTO THE, UH, HOT LIST. UM, AND AGAIN, ON THE FOLLOWING THAT PAGE AT THE TOP OF PAGE FIVE, YOU HAVE, UH, WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED, UH, AGAIN, UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW. THE VEHICLES ON THE HOT LIST MUST BE LIMITED TO A VEHICLES HAVE, HAVE BEEN REPORTED AS STOLEN B VEHICLES, REGISTERED TO AN INDIVIDUAL FOR WHOM THERE IS AN OUTSTANDING FELONY OR CLASS, A MISDEMEANOR WARRANT SEE VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH MISSING OR ENDANGERED PERSONS, UH, OR D VEHICLES WHERE THE VEHICLES, UH, ARE ASSOCIATED WITH LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS ARE RELEVANT MATERIAL TO AN ACTIVE, ONGOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION OF A FELONY, A CLASS, A MISDEMEANOR, OR A HATE CRIME. AND THEN BELOW THAT, THERE'S JUST SOME CLEANUP LANGUAGE. UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. YES. SO YOU LISTED THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT INFORMATION MAY BE GATHERED ABOUT. SO IF WE COULD WALK ME THROUGH AN EXAMPLE, IF A CRIME IS COMMITTED, APD COULD THEN GO AND ASK THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR LICENSE PLATE READER, INFORMATION FROM THEIR LIST, FROM THEIR LPR DATA. YES. THAT, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE TAKING THAT INFORMATION AND PUTTING INTO THE, THE HOT LIST, BASICALLY THE LIST WHERE THOSE LICENSE PLATES WILL GENERATE A HIT IF ONE OF THE, A L P READERS SCANS THAT, UH, UH, VEHICLE LICENSE PLATE. IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE IS IN THE, I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING THE LICENSE PLATES FROM? AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF, UH, AGAIN, THE, THE, LET ME JUST READ A LITTLE BIT OF IT. UM, IT, THAT THE, THE FUNCTION SHALL BE TO RETAIN QUERY HISTORICAL DATA FOR THE INVESTIGATION, UH, OF, UH, THE CRIMES OF EXCLUSIVELY THE CRIMES AND EMERGENCIES SPECIFIED IN SECTION ONE, AD THOSE, UH, UH, AND TO SCAN VEHICLE LICENSE PLATES AND CROSS REFERENCE THE LICENSE PLATE WITH INFORMATION ON THE LICENSE PLATE READER, HOT LIST, CONTAINING INFORMATION RELATING TO CERTAIN VEHICLES. AND THEN IT SAYS THE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE VEHICLES MAY BE GATHERED FROM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE DO A LAUNDRY LIST OF FOR EXAMPLE, FBI MISSING PERSON'S LIST, UH, THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR MISSING EXPLOITED CHILDREN, FBI KIDNAPPINGS, UH, AND, AND IT GOES OUT IN LISTS OF SPECIFIC PLACES WHERE THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN GET INFORMATION, UH, CAN GET LICENSE PLATE INFORMATION TO PUT INTO THAT. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THEN IF THERE ARE ALL THESE OTHER RESOURCES AVAILABLE WHERE WE CAN PULL INFORMATION FROM THESE OTHER LISTS, THEN WHY DO WE NEED THE TOOL OF APD HAVING ITS OWN LPR SYSTEM? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF TO ANSWER. SO I THINK THAT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER VILLA IS REFERRING TO IS THAT IS WHERE WE GENERATE THE HOT LIST INFORMATION FROM. SO THE VEHICLES THAT MIGHT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE FELONIES WITH MISSING ENDANGERED PERSONS AND SO FORTH WOULD BE GATHERED FROM THOSE DATABASES. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LPR DATABASES THAT ARE MAINTAINED BY THOSE AGENCIES. THE LPRS WOULD BE, UH, UNDER THE CONTRACT THAT APD WOULD HAVE. SO THIS WOULD BE A MORE FOCUSED WAY OF OBTAINING INFORMATION TO AID IN THE INVESTIGATION, BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A VERY SPECIFIC CAR AT THAT POINT, CORRECT. WITH REGARD TO THE HOT LIST. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. [08:10:02] I'M SORRY. WERE YOU, WERE YOU GOING, AND, AND THEN JUST TO FINISH OUT, THIS IS, AGAIN, JUST SOME, UH, ON PAGE FIVE, GOING DOWN, JUST TIGHTENING UP THE LANGUAGE WITH REGARD TO THAT THE LICENSE PLATE READER DATA MAY NOT BE RETAINED OR TRANSMITTED UNLESS IT MATCHES WITH A VEHICLE, UH, ON A HOT LIST. UH, AND THEN AGAIN, ALSO JUST SPELLING OUT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, THE, UH, RETENTION POLICY AND, AND WHAT A P D IS SUPPOSED TO DO, UH, WITH REGARD TO ITS, UH, RETENTION POLICY. THAT AGAIN, WHEN DO THEY DESTROY THE INFORMATION AND WHEN INVESTIGATION THAT DOES NOT RESULT IN ANY CRIMINAL CHARGES BEING FILED, THE FINAL DISPOSITION OF CRIMINAL CHARGES BEING FILED, OR THE, UH, UH, CONCLUSION OF A MISSING OR ENDANGERED PERSON INVESTIGATION. UH, AND THEN AGAIN, SOME, A MORE CLEANUP LANGUAGE JUST SAYING THAT THE DATA MAY ALSO BE PRESERVED PURSUANT TO A COURT ORDER. UH, AND, UH, AND AGAIN, IT JUST KIND OF LAYS OUT SOME OF THE MORE PROCEDURAL INTERACTIONS BETWEEN, UM, A P D AND OTHER AGENCIES WHEN THEY RECEIVE A COURT ORDER, A SUBPOENA, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT WITH REGARD TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, THEN THERE WAS A DATA SHARING WITH ANOTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY. AGAIN, JUST THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S TIGHTENED UP THERE, UM, THAT IT WILL ONLY BE SHARED WITH ANOTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY FOR, UH, APD AS PERMITTED, UH, UNDER THE, THE, THE PRIOR PARAGRAPH. UH, AND THAT IT JUST, THAT APD WILL ONLY SUPPLY THE REQUESTED INFORMATION FOR A SPECIFIC CASE OR INVESTIGATION, UH, THAT IT'S UNDER ITS CUSTODY OR CONTROL, AND ONLY TO THE EXTENT LEGALLY REQUIRED. UM, AND AGAIN, THEY MAY NOT SHARE THE INFORMATION, UM, UNLESS THEY, THE REQUESTING AGENCY AGREES TO, UH, UH, ABIDE BY, UH, THE POLICIES THAT P D HAS SET WITH REGARD TO THE USE OF ITS A L P PROGRAM. IN OTHER WORDS, IF A, A JURISDICTION REQUESTS, A L P INFO FROM A P D THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO ABIDE BY ESSENTIALLY THE SAME RULES THAT, UH, THAT APD FOLLOWS, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE, THE YOUTH OF THE DATA. CAN I PAUSE YOU THERE FOR A SECOND? UM, SO THAT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY IMPORTANT POSITIVE CHANGE, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DOING WHAT I HEARD. SO IF SO ANOTHER JURISDICTION, EVEN IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE SAME RULES, THAT'LL BE SET UP IN OUR PROCEDURES. YEAH. AND, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL JUST SAYS BEFORE RECEIVING ANY LICENSE PLATE READER DATA, UH, REQUESTING AGENCY MUST EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING TO ABIDE BY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AUSTIN, UH, WRITTEN ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY AND PROCEDURES FOR LICENSE PLATE READERS AND THE, UH, GENERAL ORDERS IN THE USE HANDLING AND PRESERVATION OF THE DATA, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE SHARING OF THE DATA AND THEN AGREE THAT ALL DATA RECEIVE WILL BE PROMPTLY DESTROYED, DESTROYED UPON THE CONCLUSION OF AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL MISSING OR ENDANGERED PERSON CASE. OKAY. SO DOES THAT APPLY TO ANY THE FEDS STATE? ANY LIKE NOBODY CAN COMPEL US UNLESS THEY HAVE A MEMOR MEMORANDUM THAT'S YES. THAT'S THE INTENT THAT IF THEY REQUEST THE INFORMATION, THEY HAVE TO SIGN A MEMORANDUM AND THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO ABIDE BY THE TERMS IN THE MEMORANDUM, UH, OR ELSE THEY DON'T GET THE DATA AND THAT'S EVEN IF THEY ARE REQUESTING IT FOR INDIVIDUAL LIKE CRIMINAL SITUATION. SO YES, THE ONLY, UH, EXCEPTION TO THAT WOULD BE A COURT ORDER. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, MAYOR, COULD I SPEAK TO THAT OR, OR HANG ON A SECOND, LET ME FINISH, LEMME FINISH THIS ANSWER. UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDINGS, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COMES TO COUNSEL CUZ SOMETIMES THOSE COME TO US AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T, IT THEY'D SILENT ON THAT. IT'S SILENT ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK IF THAT DOES WHAT I THINK IT DOES AND WHAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, EVOLUTION FOR THIS. AND I APPRECIATE THOSE OF YOU WHO WORKED ON GETTING THAT, UH, BEFORE YOU GO ON, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK C KITCHEN. YEAH. I JUST WANNA SPEAK TO THAT SECTION THAT, THAT THAT'S THE AMENDMENT THAT I ORIGINALLY PUT IN AND UM, UH, I, SO IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO DO THIS, BUT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BAILEY YOU'VE MADE IT MUCH CLEARER. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. SO, UM, UH, THAT WAS THE INTENT, BUT I HADN'T SPELLED OUT THE ACTUAL, UM, AGREEMENT THINKING THAT THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN. SO I, I THINK IT'S MUCH BETTER SPELLED OUT, BUT THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL INTENT AND LEGAL IS FINE WITH THAT. YEAH. I CAN, WE HAVE LEGAL WAY IN I'D LIKE, CUZ I, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IF ANOTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IS ASKING FOR THIS INFORMATION, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION. SO I JUST WANT TO HAVE OUR LEGAL TEAM ON RECORD IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE. JACKIE. YES. HELLO CONS FUENTES. UM, MY NAME IS JACKIE [08:15:01] GERBAN. I'M SPEAKING FOR THE LAW DEPARTMENT. I HAVE REVIEWED THIS. I HAVE OKAYED IT, UM, IN REGARDS TO, SO IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, IF ICE ASK US FOR IT, UM, IT WILL BE WITHIN OUR POLICY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PRODUCE IT IF IT IS RELATED TO A CRIMINAL CASE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE COMPLYING WITH THE SANCTUARY CITY LAW ASKED BEFORE. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YES. TO CLARIFY, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE ICE THE INFORMATION IF THEY ASK FOR IT, IT'S RELATED TO A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, CORRECT? YES. AND TO EXTEND THAT TO, UM, ABORTION CARE, IF ANOTHER AGENCY ASKED US FOR INFORMATION RELATED TO SOMEONE PROVIDING OR HELPING SOMEONE OBTAIN AN ABORTION, UM, KNOWING THAT WOULD FALL AS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE, WOULD WE THEN HAVE TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD FOLLOW WITHIN THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VILLA HAS PLACED WITHIN HIS RESOLUTION? WE WOULD HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THAT AGENCY. UM, SO WE CAN DO THAT. UM, THE ABORTION LAW IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE SANCTUARY CITY LAW. THE SANCTUARY CITY LAW IS UNIQUE WHERE IT SAYS THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT CANNOT, UH, REFUSE TO COOPERATE WITH, WITH ICE OR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AGENCY, UM, INCLUDING THE ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LOSS HAD HAS, OH, GO AHEAD. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO IN THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, ABORTION'S DIFFERENT FROM THE ICE REQUESTS. GOTCHA. AND HAS THERE BEEN AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER AGENCY HAVING AN MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IN PLACE IS THAT COMMON PRACTICE? THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, FROM WHAT I READ ON THEIR WEBSITES, DO YOU HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES SIGN AN AGREEMENT AS TO THEM AS TO THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES COMPLYING WITH THEIR, UM, DIRECTIVES, THEIR, UM, RULES FOR BEING ABLE TO USE THE INFORMATION ON THEIR DATABASE? SO IT'S NOT IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING NECESSARILY NEW. OKAY. AND THEN CUSTOMER REBA IS YOUR INTENTION, WOULD THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING LANGUAGE, WOULD THAT COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT? SO IT WOULD NOT, THAT'S NOT THAT PROVISION IT'S NOT IN THERE. I WILL SAY THAT THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WOULD ESSENTIALLY REQUIRE THEM TO ABIDE BY THIS POLICY AND THE A P D GENERAL ORDERS THAT WOULD THEN ALSO GOVERN THE USE OF THE DATA. SO IT'S A RELATIVELY, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY SPELLED OUT. I, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A LOT FOR COUNCIL TO REVIEW IN TERMS OF THE MEMORANDUM OF OVERSTANDING BASICALLY, IT'S SAYING THAT, HEY, IF, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA SHARE THE DATA, YOU GOTTA FOLLOW OUR POLICIES, UH, AS SET OUT IN ORDINANCE, UH, AND YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE APD GENERAL ORDERS, UH, WHICH ARE, I GUESS THE OLD ONES. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE STILL IN EFFECT, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT WHEN THE APD DOES ISSUE THE NEW GENERAL ORDERS, THEY'LL BE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR GENERAL ORDERS. IF, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT CHIEF WITH REGARD TO THE SHARING OF THE DATA. YEAH. WHAT PART COUNCIL MEMBER? WHAT? NO, JUST THAT THE AP D CAUSE ARE THE AP ARE THE OLD GENERAL ORDERS WITH REGARD TO THE USE OF THE LPR STILL IN EFFECT? NO, SIR. THEY'VE BEEN RE REMOVED. OKAY. SO AS PART OF STARTING RESTARTING THIS PROCESS, UM, I ASSUME THAT THE, YOU WOULD ISSUE A NEW GENERAL ORDERS WITH REGARD. THAT'S CORRECT. WE'D HAVE TO GO IN THERE REWRITE OUR GENERAL ORDER, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CONFORMING OBVIOUSLY WITH THIS, UH, AND THEN REINSTALL THAT GENERAL ORDER. SO, SO THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THIS AND THEN COMPLY WITH THE GENERAL ORDERS THAT ARE TO BE ISSUED BY THE AUSTIN POLICE ME. UH, OOPS. I LOST MY PLACE HERE. YOU'RE WONDERFUL. OKAY. AND SORRY, BEFORE, BEFORE YOU GO ON, GO AHEAD THOUGH THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO ICE THOUGH, OR IT DOES. I MEAN, JUST THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T APPLY TO ICE, BUT WE THINK THE ABORTION IS UNDER A DIFFERENT AND, AND I WILL MENTION THIS ALSO. AND AGAIN, THIS IS FOR FURTHER DEBATE ON THE OTHER AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE, WHICH I THINK WILL RESOLVE A LOT OF, AT LEAST MY CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO THE SHARING OF THE DATA, CUZ WE WOULDN'T BE SAVING IT SO WE CAN'T SHARE WHAT WE DON'T SAVE. BUT THE, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, ARIC, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH OUR, UH, PARTNER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN ERIC. IF I COULD, COULD THE CHIEF PLEASE SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I RECALL FROM TUESDAY'S WORK SESSION. YEAH. I ASKED ABOUT THAT TUESDAY. SO THE PARTNER AGENCIES, UH, AT THE ARICK, UH, DO HAVE ACCESS TO A LOT OF DATA. THAT'S [08:20:01] THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE INTELLIGENCE CENTER IS FOR ALL OF THOSE PARTNER AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY SHARE INFORMATION WITH ONE ANOTHER. UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, AN APD LOG ON TO BE ABLE TO GET DIRECTLY ACCESS TO SYSTEM, WHICH I UNDERSTOOD WAS THE, ONE OF THE BIGGER, UH, CONCERNS WAS DIRECT ACCESS TO THE DATABASE. UM, WE HAVE APD PERSONNEL THAT ARE IN THE CENTER AND IT IS APD MANAGED. AND UM, AND SO ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS HAVE TO COME IN. THAT'S HOW WE, HOW WE MANAGE IT AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE WITH THE ARICK, THERE IS A STRICTER SET OF GUIDELINES FOR EITHER A CRIMINAL OR TERRORISM NEXUS, UH, FOR ANY INFORMATION THAT IS SHARED, IT IS LOGGED AND, UM, AND IT HAS TO ABIDE BY THE SAME RULES. THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY ANYTHING THAT'S UNDER APD GENERAL ORDERS. OKAY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, UH, LAW COULD ALSO SPEAK TO ANY KIND OF SHARING, UH, REQUIREMENTS OR AGREEMENTS WITH, UH, A, I HAVE TO DEFER TO APD REGARDING THAT. UM, THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL ASPECT AND THE AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ENTERED WITH THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. SO I WOULD DEFER TO APD ON THAT. THANK YOU, CHIEF. UM, DID YOU WANT SAY SOMETHING AND, AND THEN THAT HONESTLY IS WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE END OF THE SUBSTANTIVE. THE LAST MAJOR DIFFERENCE WOULD BE THE, UH, I MEAN THERE'S, AGAIN, SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT TIGHTENING UP LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT. THERE MUST BE A CRIMINAL NEXUS AND IT'S NOT TO BE USED FOR PURPOSE OF INVESTIGATING PERSONS WHO ARE EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH ASSEMBLY ASSOCIATION, EXERCISE, RELIGION, SUCH AS ATTENDING POLITICAL REALITIES, ORGANIZATIONAL MEETINGS. UH, THEN, UM, AGAIN, APD WILL NOT USE, WE ADDED LANGUAGE. APD WILL NOT USE LIFE PLATE READER DATA FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING ITS OWN CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS RELATED TO IMMIGRATION STATUS OR ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH SERVICES. UH, AND THE TIMELINE CHANGE OF JUST A LITTLE BIT, JUST BECAUSE, UH, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHIEF, I MEAN, FIRST IT WAS OCTOBER 1ST, 2022. UH, BUT REALISTICALLY THAT, THAT IT'S JUST NOT GONNA GET UP AND RUNNING THAT QUICK. SO WE CHANGED THAT TO PROMPTLY, UH, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO ENSURE APD TAKES APPROPRIATE STEPS TO IMPLEMENT CHANGES TO THE FORMER POLICY AND OUR PROCEDURE AND RESTORE AD'S LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM. IT SAID BY OCTOBER 1ST, BUT THIS HAS PROMPTLY UPON THE COMPLETION ADOPTION OF THE NEW POLICY AND OUR PROCEDURE. JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY ON THAT. AND THEN THE LAST MAJOR CHANGE IS THE AUDIT. UH, AGAIN, JUST TIGHTENING UP ON PAGE 10 AND 11, JUST TIGHTENING UP WHAT THE CITY AUDITOR, WHEN THEY DO THEIR REVIEW. AFTER A YEAR OF RUNNING THE PROGRAM, IT LISTS, UH, AGAIN, THE AUDITS SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF LICENSE PLATE SCANNED THE NAMES OF THE LIST AGAINST WHICH CAPTURED PLATE DATA WERE CHECKED. AND THE NUMBER OF CONFIRMED MATCHES THE NUMBER OF MATCHES THAT RESULT IN ARREST PROSECUTION OR LOCATION OF A MISSING OR ENDANGERED PERSON. THE NUMBER OF PRESERVATION REQUESTS RECEIVED BROKEN DOWN BY NUMBER OF REQUESTS. UH, THE NUMBER OF DATA SHARING REQUESTS RECEIVED GRANTED AND DENIED, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT JUST TIGHTENS UP THE LANGUAGE OF THE AUDIT SO THAT WE GET A SUBSTANTIAL REPORT FROM THE CITY AUDITOR, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AFTER THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN EFFECT THAT'S ABOUT IT. AND IF I COULD JUST SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK, UM, THIS WAS CIRCULATED TODAY AT 1:29 PM. AND A LOT OF THE CHANGES REALLY, I BELIEVE MAKE THE RESOLUTION STRONGER. I, I THINK THAT AFTER REVIEWING THEM, A LOT OF THEM COME FROM THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAD PRESENTED ON THE MESSAGE BOARD. AND I, I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES, IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO IN THIS DIRECTION, THEY CAN MODEL THIS AFTER. AND SO I'M THANKFUL FOR THE, THE WORK THAT WE'VE ALL DONE, EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE FEEDBACK FROM PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS AND WORK SESSIONS AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND THANK YOU ALSO, CHIEF FOR WORKING THROUGH THIS WITH US TO GET IT IN A PLACE WHERE I REALLY FEEL CONFIDENT THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN BE PROUD TO BRING BACK THIS PROGRAM AND, AND MAKE IT WORK THE CORRECT WAY. SO, AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY, UH, BEING VERY FLEXIBLE AND, AND WORKING WITH US AND OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, IDEAS AND CHANGES. UH, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME, WHICH I THINK IS CRITICAL TO THE WHOLE WHOLE THING. BUT, UH, I, I THINK WITH THESE CHANGES, IT, IT IS, UH, A, A GOOD, UH, IT'S A GOOD DRAFT. I I'M, LIKE I SAID, I, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT IT UNLESS IT IT'S, UH, THERE'S NO DATA RETENTION AT ALL, BUT THIS IS I THINK, A GOOD BASE TO WORK FROM. OKAY. QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT COUNCIL. TOVA JUST A QUICK ONE. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ON LINE 66, IT TALKS ABOUT TO THE EXTENT THAT THE 20 21 20 22 FUNDING IS NOT ENCUMBERED MM-HMM , I'M NOT SURE I'M FOLLOWING THAT. SO THE LINES BEFORE IT TALK ABOUT USING FUNDING FROM [08:25:01] THE 20 21, 20 22 BUDGET, NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S NOT ENCUMBERED. DO WE REALLY MEAN SUFFICIENT? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO AND I'M NOT SURE I CAN REALLY EXPLAIN THAT PARTICULAR CHANGE. SO MAYOR I CAN, UH, WE TRIED TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE CUZ THIS ORIGINALLY WAS DRAFTED BEFORE THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED. SO IT'S TRYING TO CAPTURE HOW WE CAN USE THE FUNDS EITHER THAT HAVE BEEN, NOT BEEN EXPENDED YET OR IN THE NEXT, UH, BUDGET, BUT THAT, HOW DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S SO WE, THE LINES BEFORE IT SAY, USE THE FUNDING FROM 2021 TO 2022, THEN THE NEXT LINE SAYS TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT THE FUNDING FROM THAT YEAR IS NOT ENCUMBERED. I THINK I MIGHT, THE UPSETTING MANAGER CAN USE FUNDING FROM THE NEXT YEAR'S WHAT IT'S BUDGET YOU CAN USE LAST YEAR, JACKIE, YOU WANNA ADDRESS IT? YOU ALREADY SPENT IT. AND IT SORT OF SOUNDS LIKE SUFFICIENT IS REALLY SO I SEE MAYBE YES, ORIGINALLY COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL ART TOBA. YES. ORIGINALLY WE HAD THE WORD SUFFICIENT, BUT, UM, IT WASN'T A MATTER OF US NOT HAVING ENOUGH FUNDS IS BEING ABLE TO WHAT WE CALL ENCUMBERED. UM, IT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT WE, WE ASK FINANCE, IS IT THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE? BECAUSE A, B D HAD A CONCERN THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ENCUMBER THE AMOUNT SUFFICIENT, YOU KNOW, IN TIME BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR 23 STARTED. SO WE BITTED THIS LANGUAGE THROUGH APD FINANCE AND THIS WAS THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE THAT EVERYBODY AGREED UPON. BUT YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. ORIGINALLY IT SAID SUFFICIENT, BUT WE WERE, WE, WE, I FOUND THAT ENCUMBERED WAS THE APPROPRIATE WORD TO USE. AND I THINK A P D COULD EXPLAIN WHAT THEIR CONCERN WAS AS TO THEY HAD THE FUNDING IN THE FY, UH, 22 AT FISCAL YEAR OF 22. BUT, UM, THERE HASN'T BEEN A LINE ITEM IN THEIR BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 BECAUSE THIS ITEM GOT POSTPONED SEVERAL TIMES. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE COULD NOT ENCUMBER THE FUNDS IN TIME BEFORE PHYSICAL 20 FISCAL YEAR 23 STARTED THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE BUDGET, UM, FOR FISCAL YEAR 23. AND, UM, I SEE, SO YOU'RE, YOU SHOULD COME IF I SAID THAT INCORRECTLY, PLEASE, UH, CORRECT ME. SO IF IT'S NOT IN, SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THE 20 21 22 FUNDING CAN. OKAY. ALL THANKS. THAT'S OKAY. WE CAN MOVE THAT. OKAY. PAPER, TIM. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK IN HERE. UM, READING THROUGH IT THOUGH, I'M A LITTLE ALARMED THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT HOW IT'S WORKING FOR EIGHT MONTHS. UM, AND I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC AMENDMENT, BUT, UM, IT DOES SEEM LIKE SORT OF THE, THE, UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING AND THIS IS LONG AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THINGS. UM, BUT THE NEW POLICY ISN'T GOING TO ANY COMMITTEE, UM, YEAH, IT IS. I MEAN, WHERE, WHERE IS IT? THAT'S WHY I SAID I MAY BE MISSING SOMETHING, BUT IT'S UM, IT'S RIGHT HERE. WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? UM, IT'S THE, THE FRONT OF IT SAYS, UH, OH, WELL IT'S OR WHAT LINE NUMBER? I THINK IT'S LINES AROUND 2 22 AROUND WHERE IT'S DISCUSSING ABOUT THE AUDITOR. AND THEN IT SAYS INFORMATION OBTAINED BY AUDIT AND REVIEW WILL BE SHARED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S PUBLIC SAFETY, RIGHT. BUTTING, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE HAPPENING. I MEAN, THAT AUDIT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. IT, IT COULD, I COULD I SPEAK? YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. SO THE, THE, FOR THE POLICY AND PROCEDURE, THAT'S IN LINE 71 THROUGH 75, UM, I HAD, AND IT'S WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT WITH AT LEAST TWO COMMUNITY INPUT SESSIONS. I HAD SUGGESTED THAT IT ALSO GO TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. SO, UM, IF COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY IS OKAY, I, I HAD MADE THAT PROPOSAL. I'M NOT SEEING THAT IN HERE. SO, UM, WHERE IT HAS WORKED WITH THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND COORDINATE A MINIMUM OF TWO COMMUNITY INPUT SESSIONS RELATED TO THE POLICY, IF IT'S, UM, ACCEPTABLE TO, UM, TO COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, KELLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN AN EARLIER VERSION. OKAY. BUT OFTEN WHEN WE HAVE SORT OF THESE PROCESSES, WE GET INPUT AS WE GO. BUT THEN LIKE [08:30:01] AT THE END WE HAVE A POLICY THAT'S PASSED THAT WE DON'T APPROVE, WHICH IS FINE, THAT WE DON'T APPROVE IT. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DAYLIGHT IF THAT'S NOT COMING TO A SESSION THAT YOU HAVE SOME TRANSPARENCY AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GAZILLION THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW. AND SO UNLESS IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEING DAYLIGHTED IN SOME WAY, IT MAKES IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING. WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST GONNA, UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CHIEF, IF ANY GENERAL ORDERS GENERALLY COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT TO COME TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL. I'M SUGGESTING THAT WHEN IT, WHEN IT'S ALL READY TO GO, NOT JUST WHEN IT'S BEING PUT TOGETHER, THERE SHOULD BE A POINT AT WHICH IT'S, YOU KNOW, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. AND, AND I THINK GOING TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE OR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, EITHER ONE, I'M NOT SAYING THEY GET A VOTE ON IT PER SE, BUT IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD BE, UM, TRANSPARENT WHEN IT COMES BACK. AND, AND I JUST NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS. YEAH. IN HERE, YOU YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS, SO IT VERY WELL MAY BE IN HERE. THANK YOU. YEAH. LINE 1 62 SAYS THE CITY MANAGER WILL POST THE USAGE AND PRIVACY POLICY REGARDING LICENSE PLATE READERS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. OKAY. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE, UM, SOME KIND OF CHECK IN, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS AFTER THAT OR WHATEVER, EITHER AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE OR AT THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE. UM, I'LL, I'M NOT ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, BUT I WILL BE ON AUDIT FINANCE, BUT, UM, IT MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE PUT THAT IN HERE. IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CHECK ON HOW'S THIS GOING, YOU KNOW, REMIND US WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS, WHAT DO WE KNOW THREE MONTHS IN THAT WE CAN TELL YOU? UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF APPREHENSION IN THE COMMUNITY AND IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, I'D RATHER, I'D RATHER, UM, I'D RATHER SEE THAT EARLY RATHER THAN WAIT A WHOLE YEAR. UM, IF WE, IF WE COULD, THEY WON'T DO A WHOLE ANALYSIS, BUT SOME THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY, IF THERE'S A BETTER PLACE, BUT JUST ADDING A, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED IN ONE OF THESE AREAS. MAYBE AFTER THAT SECTION THAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT SAYING THREE MONTHS AFTER IMPLEMENTATION, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL SCHEDULE A BRIEFING AT THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION. THIS SEEMS TO ME AN IMPORTANT ENOUGH ISSUE THAT IT SHOULD PROBABLY COME TO THE, FOR THE FULL COUNCIL FOR CONVERSATION. AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. IT LOOKS, I MEAN, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE PERFECT IN IT FURTHER, UH, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CHIEF WOULD BE ABLE TO DO FOR US. I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH BRINGING BACK, UM, UPDATES TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE OR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, UM, ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE WITH THE, OR TO, OR TO A WORK SESSION IF THE COUNCIL IDENTIFIED AS A WORK SESSION, NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR PLACE YOU WANTED OR, UM, I THINK IT BE SORT OF SUGGEST, I, I PERSONALLY WOULD SUGGEST ONE OF THE COMMITTEES, WE WILL HAVE A NEW COUNCIL AND THOSE WORK SESSION TIMES ARE GONNA BE CHAOTIC ENOUGH, I THINK. UM, BUT, BUT I, I, I WILL DEFER TO THE AUTHOR TO DETERMINE WHICH, WHICH SHE PREFERS WELL LOOKING AT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE RESOLUTION. IF YOU LOOK AT LINE 2 24, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE AUDITOR COMING BACK TO US, THEY ALSO WILL REVIEW AND SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL'S PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. UM, I WOULD BELIEVE THAT THE PLACE TO START WITH THIS, UM, THREE MONTHS INTO THE PROJECT OR THE, THE REINSTATEMENT, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL CHOOSES, WE WOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION BEFORE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THEN MAYBE JUST PUSH IT UP TO A WORK SESSION, ABBREVIATED JUST A BRIEF REPORT, DEPENDING ON THE FINDINGS, IF THERE'S ANY ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN. I THINK THE BEST PLACE FOR THAT MIGHT BE PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION. SO I HAVE THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMISSION SO THAT IT GETS THREE DIFFERENT TIMES THAT IT'S IN THE PUBLIC. OKAY. I I'M, I'M, I'M FINE AT HAVING MORE, MORE, MORE, BUT I, BUT IT, IT JUST GETS MORE OF THE STAFF SO THAT WE MOVE FORWARD. DOES ANYBODY OBJECT TO ADDING AN AMENDMENT TO THIS THAT HAS A, THAT BE RESOLVED, THAT THEY THREE MONTHS AFTER IMPLEMENTATION, UH, THE, THE MANAGER AND THE CHIEF WILL, WILL REPORT BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UM, AND TO THE COUNCIL HAVE REQUESTED ANYBODY HAVE OBJECTION TO THAT. THAT IS INCLUDED THEN IN THE BASE MOTION. NOW BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO COUNCIL MEMBER VAL'S AMENDMENTS BEING INCLUDED IN THE BASE MOTION, HEARING NONE. THOSE ARE ALL INCLUDED IN THE BASE MOTION [08:35:01] ITEM NUMBER 56 IS IN FRONT OF US, UH, AS AMENDED. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? UH, YES. MA'AM I PASSING OUT, UH, A PAIR OF AMENDMENTS. OH, ONE IS THE FIRST ONE IS JUST STRIKES THAT THE 30 DAYS AND REPLACES IT WITH THREE MINUTES. UH, IF THAT ONE PASSES, THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY JUST TO CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE. UH, BUT THIS AMENDMENT, WHICH IS, IT'S NOT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UH, IT WOULD LIMIT THE RETENTION OF THE DATA TO THREE MINUTES. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE A TOOL THAT IS RECORDING LICENSE PLATES, STORING THEM IN THE, IN A DATABASE. AND THEN YOU CAN GO BACK AND SEARCH AND SAY, OH, HEY, I WANNA FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE LICENSE PLATE ABC. 1, 2, 3 HAS BEEN, I'M GONNA, YOU KNOW, CHECK IT OUT. AND I HAVE 30 DAYS WORTH OF DATA TO SEARCH, TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. UH, THIS WOULD LIMIT THE USE OF A STRICTLY TO A HOT LIST WHERE IF SOME, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A VEHICLE THAT'S, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH A FELONY WARRANT, YOU PUT IN THAT LICENSE PLATE NUMBER, AND IF IT HITS, THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE IDENTIFIED WHERE THAT VEHICLE IS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A STOLEN VEHICLE AND IT HITS, YOU'VE IDENTIFIED WHERE THAT VEHICLE, WHEN YOU GET A HIT, THEN THAT DATA IS GOING TO BE SAVED. BUT IF YOU DO NOT GET A HIT, THEN THE LICENSE PLATE, UH, INFORMATION THAT THAT SCANNER IS CAPTURING WOULD BE DELETED ESSENTIALLY IMMEDIATELY. I MEAN, NOT IMMEDIATELY THREE MINUTES, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT STORING ANY DATA. AND THE REASON THAT I'M PUTTING THIS IN THERE IS CUZ AGAIN, DATA THAT IS NOT SAVED CANNOT BE ABUSED. OKAY. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET A SECOND, UH, TO, UH, UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'VE JUST HIT HERE IS VELA MOTION SHEET NUMBER TWO, VE MOTION SHEET NUMBER TWO IS WHAT YOU'VE MOVED. YES. SO LET ME DOUBLE CHECK JUST A SECOND TO THAT. UM, UH, COUNCIL APPOINT THIS SECOND SET. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL APPOINT THIS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. MARELLA YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I THINK IT'S A, I'M STILL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE TOOL. UM, BUT I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP, UM, FORWARD FOR US. UM, CUZ ONE THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY, UM, GOING BACK TO OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION ON GIVEN THE SHOW, ME YOUR PAPERS LAW AND, UH, PREEMPTION THAT WE HAVE BY THE STATE, WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO SHARE DATA WITH ICE THAT'S ON CRIMINAL OFFENSES. AND WHEN WE SAY CRIMINAL OFFENSES, THAT COULD INCLUDE THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, IMPROPER ENTRY INTO THE COUNTRY, ILLEGAL REENTRY TO THE COUNTRY. MM-HMM I ALSO FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, A FAILURE TO, TO NOTIFY ABOUT A CHANGE OF ADDRESS IS THE CLASS B MISDEMEANOR MM-HMM . AND SO THESE ARE THE TYPE OF OFFENSES THAT WHO KNOWS WITH THE DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION COULD BE ASKED OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND SO I THINK THIS, UM, AMENDMENT, UM, IS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN ENSURING THAT WE ARE NOT HARBORING, UH, SURVEILLANCE DATA THAT COULD BE USED IN, IN A HARMFUL WAY TO AN ALREADY DISPROPORTIONATELY EFFECTIVE COMMUNITY. OKAY. UH, COUNCIL KELLY. YEAH. UM, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS AS A, UM, AMENDMENT IN THE RESOLUTION FOR A LOT OF REASONS, MOST OF WHICH WE'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS IN REGARDS TO THE DATA RETENTION. AND SO I WAS JUST GONNA HAVE THE CHIEF REMIND US, UM, COULD YOU PLEASE TELL US WHY THE RETENTION TIME SET FOR 30 DAYS CURRENTLY IS IMPORTANT AND MAYBE SPEAK TO THE HISTORICAL DATA THAT'S USED TO SOLVE CRIMES AND MAYBE GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. I'M GLAD TO. SO WE REALLY SEE THE TOOL AS BEING IMPORTANT IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. AND I THINK YOU'VE OUTLINED THEM COUNCIL MEMBER. UM, THEY'RE BOTH IN MY ESTIMATION, VERY IMPORTANT. WE, UM, NEED TO BE ABLE TO RECOVER STOLEN VEHICLES. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE A HOT LIST THAT WILL TELL US ABOUT MISSING ENDANGERED PEOPLE, AMBER ALERTS, CIVIL ALERTS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. AND ALL OF THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. EQUALLY IMPORTANT IS, UM, OUR CASES THAT WE'RE WORKING IN HOMICIDE IN ROBBERY AND SEXUAL ASSAULT, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, UH, AND THOSE TYPE OF INVESTIGATIONS WE'RE HAVING HISTORICAL DATA IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK, NOT ONLY TO FIGURE OUT IF A VEHICLE, UH, WAS, UH, IN AN AREA WHERE ONE OF THOSE OCCURRED, BUT EQUALLY, UM, IF WE ARE, ARE LOOKING TO, UH, [08:40:01] REMOVE SOMEONE FROM ANY SUSPICION OR EXONERATE SOMEONE, UH, THE SYSTEM CAN DO THAT AS WELL BY CONFIRMING THAT A VEHICLE WAS NOT IN THE AREA. SO THE, THE DATA IS JUST IT. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A TOOL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS OUTLINED AND, AND DISCUSSED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL SESSIONS, UM, THERE HAS TO STILL BE A MANUAL VERIFICATION OF DATA BY, UM, BY PERSONNEL TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT VEHICLE, UM, THAT, UH, A HIT IN, IN THE SYSTEM IS NOT USED SOLELY, UM, FOR, UH, AS A BASIS FOR AN ARREST WARRANT OR A SEARCH WARRANT. IT STILL HAS TO BE VERIFIED. IT STILL HAS TO BE CONFIRMED. UH, IT IS A TOOL THAT GIVES MANY TIMES AN INVESTIGATOR, A LEAD OR A CLUE IN CASES THAT WE MIGHT OTHERWISE HAVE NO LEADS OR CLUES. SO, UM, FOR THAT REASON, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS TO SOME EXAMPLES I'VE CITED SEVERAL. UH, IT HELPED US CERTAINLY WITH THE ROCK THROWER CASE THAT WE HAD HERE, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, TO HELP CONFIRM HIS LOCATION ON MANY OF THOSE INSTANCES, UM, AS WELL AS SOME PRETTY TERRIFYING CASES IN THE AREA OF CHILD EXPLOITATION, UM, AND, UH, ACTIVE SHOOTERS. WE HAD AN ACTIVE SHOOTER THAT WAS TERRORIZING THE CITY OVER SEVERAL MONTHS THAT WE USED LPRS TO HELP US SOLVE. SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST A VERY VALUABLE TOOL. THANK YOU FOR, UM, REMINDING US OF THAT. I I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO JUNE 16TH WHEN I FIRST BROUGHT THIS RESOLUTION FORWARD. AND JUST AGAIN, REMIND YOU ALL. I HAD UTILIZED THE PREVIOUS, UM, RECORD RETENTION SCHEDULE, WHICH WAS ONE YEAR, AND THAT WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE FOR MANY OF YOU. AND SO IN SPEAKING WITH THE CHIEF AND FINDING OUT HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY COULD BE BEST UTILIZED, WE BROUGHT IT DOWN TO 30 DAYS AND, UM, THAT'S ABOUT WHERE I WANNA STAY AND FEEL COMFORTABLE CURRENTLY. SO THANK YOU. UM, I WANNA SAY I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AT THREE MINUTES. THE, UH, I RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, THAT, WELL, THERE, THERE ARE TWO BASIC USES FOR THIS TOOL. ONE IS THE HOT LIST. UH, THERE'S NOT A LIMITATION TO THE CAMERAS OR PLACEMENT AND CAMERAS, SO THEY CAN BE MOVED AROUND, UH, WHICH IS, UH, COMPROMISED THAT, THAT I HAD TRIED TO, TO, TO WORK THROUGH. UM, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT, IT, IT SERVES THE PURPOSE THAT, THAT, UH, WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE FOR THAT TOOL IN THAT CONTEXT FOR THAT USE THERE'S THE OTHER USE. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE VALUABLE AND THAT OTHER USE IT HAS TO, TO ACCUMULATE DATA AND KEEP DATA FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING TRUST. AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT TRUST WITH RESPECT TO THE LAST DEBATE THAT WE, THAT, THAT WE HAD, UH, AND GIVEN THE, THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS AND THE STEP THAT THIS IS FOR OUR CITY. I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO, TO FULLY, UH, ENABLE YOU, UH, FOR THAT FIRST USE. UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA REPORT BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE AUDIT AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW IT'S USED AND, AND TEST THE CONTROLS. UM, I DON'T THINK THIS STOPS YOU A YEAR FROM NOW FOR ASKING FOR MORE BASED ON THAT EXPERIENCE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN HARD TO GET AUDIT REPORTS OUT FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST YEAR. WE HAD THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GONNA GET THOSE AUDIT REPORTS BACK EARLIER, AND I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE. UM, SO FOR ME, I WOULD, UH, UH, JOIN, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER VELA, UM, IN SAYING THAT, UH, UH, I WOULD SUPPORT THE USE OF THIS TOOL, BUT ONLY IN THE SITUATION THAT OUR FIRST ENTRE INTO IT IS SOMETHING THAT SUPPORTS THAT ONE OF THE TWO USES. I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE WAY INTO THIS, THAT BUILDS TRUST AND ENABLES A TRACK RECORD TO BE, UH, DEVELOPED. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M WANNA SUPPORT FURTHER COMMENT. I THINK YOU HAD A QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES. I DID. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT LAST LINE OF QUESTIONING IN THE CASE OF AN AMBER ALERT, HOW WOULD A THREE MINUTE OR A 30 DAY OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN FUNCTION WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN ABDUCTED CHILD YOU'RE TRYING TO TRACK DOWN. SO, UM, HAVING THE LPRS OUT THERE THAT WOULD PROVIDE A, HOTLIST HIT SAYING THAT VEHICLE JUST PASSED THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION WOULD GIVE OFFICERS THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO THAT LOCATION AND LOOK FOR THE VEHICLE. UM, THAT THAT'D BE ONE OF THE PRIMARY WAYS. UM, IF WE HAD THE HISTORICAL DATE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO AND DO A LOOK BACK TO [08:45:01] SEE, UH, WHERE THAT, WHERE ELSE THAT VEHICLE MAY HAVE BEEN. AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, LOCATE A LOCATE, UM, VEHICLES THAT HAVE INVOLVED IN VARIOUS CRIMES BASED ON ISSUES WITH THE, UM, PEOPLE NOT UPDATING THE OWNER OF A, THE REGISTERED OWNER OF A VEHICLE AND NOT KNOWING WHERE THAT VEHICLE IS ACTUALLY RESIDING. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE, UM, THE, THE LPRS TO BE ABLE TO TRACK DOWN TO A PARTICULAR AREA AND THEN LOCATE A VEHICLE, UH, BASED ON THE LPR HITS, BUT WE NEED HISTORICAL DATA TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND I THINK IN ONE OF THE TIMES, YOU AND I TALKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE ROCK THROWER, I THINK YOU WERE ABLE TO LOCATE HIM, BUT THEN USE OLDER DATA TO CONFIRM THAT THAT PERSON HAD BEEN IN THOSE LOCATIONS HISTORICALLY THAT'S CORRECT. THE LPRS DID NOT INITIALLY IDENTIFY WHO THE ROCK THROWER WAS, BUT ONCE WE KNEW THE LICENSE PLATE, WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK INTO OLDER LPR DATA AND DETERMINE THAT WE COULD PUT 'EM AT THE SCENE OF EVERY ROCK THROWING INCIDENT. SO IT WAS VERY, UH, USEFUL FOR, UH, THE FOLLOW UP, UM, INVESTIGATION AND PROSECUTION. THANK YOU. I'M THINKING A LOT ABOUT THIS TIMELINE OF, OF THE STORAGE AND RETENTION, SIMPLY BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE MERITS OF NOT HAVING DATA AND THEREFORE, IF SOMEONE ASKED YOU FOR IT, YOU DON'T HAVE IT. UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FINDING CARS THAT HAVE BEEN STOLEN THAT MAY HAVE WEAPONS IN THEM MISSING CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, WE JUST PASSED A RESOLUTION ABOUT SEX TRAFFICKING. UM, SO I THINK THERE ARE SOME MERITS TO BEING ABLE TO DO THIS. AND I TRY TO BE MINDFUL OF WHERE THIS IDEA CAME FROM, WAS SITTING DOWN WITH THE SEX CRIMES, DETECTIVES AND VICTIM SERVICES COUNSELORS, AND ASKING WHAT TOOLS CAN HELP SOLVE THESE CRIMES QUICKER. AND SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO BALANCE WHERE THAT DATA RETENTION IS, BUT I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HOW MUCH COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S WORKED ON THIS LANGUAGE. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF AMENDMENTS AND A LOT OF ACCEPTING OF NEWER IDEAS, UM, AND APPRECIATE, AND KITCHEN'S DONE A LOT TOO AND TU DOVE COMING IN AND KIND OF REALLY IRONING THROUGH THAT LANGUAGE. SO I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE OF RETENTION, BUT I DO SEE THE BENEFITS OF BEING ABLE TO SOLVE, YOU KNOW, SEX CRIMES AND TRAFFICKING AND ABDUCTIONS QUICKER COUNCIL. REMEMBER HARPER, MADISON. THANK YOU MAYOR. AS I SAID ON TUESDAY, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN SEARCH AND SURVEILLANCE. UM, I KNOW OUR LAW DEPARTMENT HAS CONDUCTED RESEARCH INTO THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF LICENSE PLATE READERS AND HOW THEY'RE USED. AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. I'M STILL JUST NOT CONVINCED THAT THE SYSTEM AS PROPOSED WILL BE FULL PROOF AGAINST MISUSE ABUSE OR DISCRIMINATION. IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A REALLY STRICT TIME LIMIT FOR RETENTION, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ABOUT PROTECTING ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, PEOPLE WITH, UM, UH, DIFFERENT RESIDENCY STATUS IMMIGRANTS, ANYONE TRYING TO SEEK, UH, MEDICAL CARE. SO I AM ABSOLUTELY IN FULL SUPPORT OF IN STATING A THREE MINUTE STORAGE LIMIT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD. WAIT A MINUTE IN FRONT OF US TO MOVE TO THREE MINUTES, SANDY, FOR THE DISCUSSION, UH, COUNCIL PARK KITCHEN. UH, OKAY. SO, UH, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, SO THE, I THINK I'M UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE. SO THE THREE MINUTE IS, IS REAL TIME EXTENSION ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND, UM, AND NO HISTORICAL DATA, CUZ IT'S NOT STORED AT ALL. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THREE MINUTES IS JUST THE AMOUNT OF TIME. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT'S MAGIC ABOUT THREE MINUTES, BUT THREE MINUTES IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT'S CONSIDERED ENOUGH TO CHECK A LICENSE PLATE IN REAL TIME. RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT THREE MINUTES IS COMING? UM, I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? WELL, I IT'S, IT'S JUST RHETORICAL, I'M SORRY. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THE, WHERE THREE MINUTES CAME FROM AS OPPOSED TO FIVE MINUTES OR SIX MINUTES OR WHATEVER. BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS THAT, UH, IF, IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA BE ABLE TO CHECK IN REAL TIME, THEN THREE MINUTES IS SUFFICIENT TO DO THAT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU HAVE NO HISTORICAL DATA AND THERE'S CERTAIN KIND OF CRIMES, UM, OR CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU, YOU AREN'T ABLE TO TO ADDRESS. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. HEATHER KELLY. YES. UM, THANK YOU. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. I'VE LEARNED WAY MORE ABOUT AUTOMATED LICENSE READERS AND I THINK I EVER NEEDED TO KNOW FOR A LIFETIME, BUT ONE THING THAT I DID LEARN FROM LOOKING AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND, UM, SPEAKING WITH OTHER OFFICERS, WHO'VE UTILIZED THIS EQUIPMENT. THERE'S A, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL WITH WHAT I ACCEPTED AND DIDN'T ACCEPT AS FAR AS AMENDMENTS GO, BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S FEASIBLE AND [08:50:01] WHAT'S PRACTICAL. AND ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THAT I WANT TO DO IS APPROVE A RESOLUTION TONIGHT THAT IS NOT OF PRACTICAL APPLICATION FOR YOUR OFFICERS, BECAUSE I, I, I BELIEVE THAT SETS UP A, A FALSE HOPE THAT THEY'RE GETTING A TOOL THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE. AND THAT WOULD BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER. AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE BALANCE OF THIS COUNCIL IS THAT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A TOOL THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE, BUT THE THREE MINUTES IS LIMITING AND IT WILL VERY MUCH LIMIT YOUR ABILITY TO UTILIZE THAT TECHNOLOGY, CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. COUNCIL MEMBER. I, I CANNOT ADVOCATE FOR A THREE MINUTE, UH, RESTRICTION ON IT. I THINK THAT, AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, IT'S A TOOL, UM, THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY POWERFUL AND, UM, WITH THE RIGHT AUDITING PROCEDURES, THE RIGHT PROTOCOLS IN PLACE, THE RIGHT RULES AND REGULATIONS, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL USE IT IN THE RIGHT WAY AND BE ABLE TO SHOW COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE USING IT IN THE RIGHT WAY. UM, BUT I WOULD HATE THAT WE WOULDN'T USE IT TO SOLVE SOME OF THESE REALLY MAJOR CRIMES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON AND, UM, REALLY USE TECHNOLOGY TO HELP KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, THERE'S OTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU ALL UTILIZE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS DATA RETENTION SCHEDULES, CORRECT. SUCH AS THE HALO CAMERAS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND WHAT IS THAT DATE OF RETENTION LIKE? SO WE HAVE THE, UH, MOST OF THE HALO CAMERAS, UH, ARE LOCATED IN OUR DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND, UH, THEY RETAIN THAT DATA FOR SEVEN DAYS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, TO BE CLEAR, CHIEF, WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES AND IT ENABLES YOU TO INVESTIGATE ADDITIONAL CRIMES THAT YOU CAN'T INVESTIGATE AT THREE MINUTES, EVEN A THREE MINUTE TIMELINE GIVES YOU A TOOL THAT I THINK YOU TOLD US IS STILL A VALUABLE TOOL FOR THE OFFICERS TO HAVE. IS THAT TRUE? THAT'S TRUE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU GUYS ARE AVAILABLE. WELL, THE THREE MINUTES CAME FROM THE NEW HAMPSHIRE STATUTE, UH, WHICH THEY HAVE A STATE STATUTE REGULATING, UH, A PS AND THEY SET IT AT THREE MINUTES AND THE NEW HAMPSHIRE STATUTE WAS REALLY WHAT IS A MODEL FOR A LOT OF WHAT WE WERE, UH, DRAWING FROM. UH, AND JUST RIGHT QUICK, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THE, THE AUDITS WERE IN THE BACKUP IN THE Q AND A, I HADN'T CAUGHT THEM UNTIL I SAW THE Q AND A, BUT, UH, AND I DO IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING QUITE VIGILANT IN, IN GOING BACK AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THAT, THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, BEING USED FOR THE PURPOSE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR. AND I UNDERSTAND THE MANAGER LEANED OVER TO ME AND SAID THAT THEY WERE POSTED SOMETIME THIS MORNING. MM-HMM, , I'VE BEEN BUSY THIS MORNING. UH, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS, THAT WAS ACCESSIBLE TO ME, CASPER KITCHEN , UH, I, I HAVE THE AUDIT SUMMARY FROM 2017 TO 2021 IN FRONT OF ME. UM, THERE, THERE WERE 12 OFFICER ERRORS ACROSS ALL THOSE YEARS AND THE ERRORS WERE WRITING INCORRECT CASE NUMBERS. SO IN 2021, THERE TWO OFFICERS WROTE INCORRECT CASE NUMBERS. UH, AND THAT WAS IN THE SECOND QUARTER. THERE WERE NO ISSUES IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2021, NO ISSUES IN 2020 AT ALL. UM, FIRST QUARTER. SO, SO THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 360 OFFICERS WERE AUDITED WITH 12 OFFICER ERRORS, A 3% ERROR RATE. THE ERROR RATE WAS INCORRECT CASE NUMBERS, NOT ACCESSING THE DATA. IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, NOT ACCESSING THE DATA INAPPROPRIATELY. AM, AM I READING IT CORRECTLY, CHIEF, YOU ARE. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK, DID I, YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? NO, I, I THINK YOU'VE, YOU'VE, UH, STATED IT PRETTY, UH, CORRECTLY, SUCCINCTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY QUARTER FROM 2017 UNTIL THE PROGRAM WAS HALTED IN 2021, UM, THERE WERE AUDITS THAT WERE CONDUCTED BY OUR RISK MANAGEMENT UNIT, THE ERRORS THAT WERE LOCATED IN THERE, WHAT THEY ALWAYS DO IS FOLLOW UP DIRECTLY WITH THAT OFFICER IN CHAIN OF COMMAND AND WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT OFFICERS HAD INCORRECTLY KEYED IN A CASE NUMBER, UH, USUALLY TRANSPOSING A NUMBER. UM, AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO VERIFY THOSE AND CONFIRM THAT, UM, THERE WAS NO MISUSE OF THE SYSTEM. SO OVER FIVE YEARS, THERE WERE 12 TIMES THAT AIR, THAT OFFICERS KEYED IN THE, THE NUMBERS INCORRECTLY. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY GUYS, YEAH, JUST ONE LAST THOUGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, THE LACK OF HISTORICAL DATA [08:55:01] IS TROUBLING TO ME KNOWING THAT, UM, WE PASSED A HUMAN TRAFFICKING RESOLUTION TODAY AND VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING COULD BE KIDNAPPED AND WE NEED THAT LEAD TIME TO BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY MIGHT BE. AND THREE MINUTES TO ME IS JUST NOT ENOUGH. AND IF MY DAUGHTER WERE TO BE KIDNAPPED, I WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE EVERY TOOL IN MY POWER TO FIND HER. AND THREE MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR OFFICERS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND DO THAT. SO THAT THOSE ARE MY CLOSING REMARKS. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE, SORRY, BEFORE THIS, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT THE, EVEN IF WE HAVE THE DATA FOR THREE MINUTES, BASED ON THE RESOLUTION WITH THE AMENDED RESOLUTION AS PROPOSED, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT STILL HAS ACCESS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THEIR LPR DATA, AS WELL AS THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT WERE LISTED. SO YOU COULD WORK WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHO, IF THEY HAVE THAT LICENSE PLATE ON THEIR HOT LIST AND OBTAIN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. CORRECT. SO IN ORDER FOR US TO, UM, CHECK FOR GIVEN, LOOKING AT THE EXAMPLE, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY GAVE, IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S KIDNAPPED, WE DON'T HAVE THAT LICENSE PLATE TO BE ABLE TO, TO RUN IN ANY LPR DATABASE TO SEE, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE VEHICLE VERSUS IF WE HAD LPRS AND WE ARE ABLE TO LOOK HISTORICALLY BACK IN THAT AREA TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE, DO YOU KNOW, WAS IT PICKED UP BY ONE OF OUR LPRS DEVELOP THAT INFORMATION AND THEN RUN IT? UM, I HOPE, I HOPE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE WE, UNLESS LPRS ARE GOOD FOR VEHICLES THAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND THEY'RE ON THE HOT LIST, UM, WHAT THEY DON'T HELP IF WE DON'T HAVE HISTORICAL DATA IS, UM, FOR INSTANCE, IF I HAVE A HOMICIDE OR I HAVE A KIDNAPPING THAT HAPPENS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK FOR A VERY, UH, SMALL PERIOD OF TIME IN A, IN A PARTICULAR AREA AT THE LICENSE PLATE THAT WERE THERE TO SEE IF I CAN DEVELOP A SUSPECT OUT OF THOSE LICENSE PLATES. SO IT DOES NOT HELP ME DO THAT. IT DOES NOT GIVE ME THAT INVESTIGATIVE LEAD. AND, AND WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO LOOK AT COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE DATA OR ANOTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY DATA? YES. WE COULD LOOK AT THAT TYPE OF THING AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE READY TO TAKE A VOTE, TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, ITEM. UM, I'M SORRY. UM, IT'S, IT'S THE AMENDMENT. IT'S RIGHT AMENDMENT. UM, THANK YOU. FAVOR COUNCIL MEMBER. VAL IS, UH, AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, PLEASE. RAISE YOUR HAND AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. WHAT IT'S LISTED? YES, IT'S LISTED AS NUMBER TWO. OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. MY BET. THAT'S OKAY. SHEET NUMBER TWO. THOSE YOUR FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. IT IS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER VELA FUENTES RENTED THE, UH, HARPER, MADISON AND ME. THOSE OPPOSED TO THAT AMENDMENT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. IT IS THE REMAINING SIX. UH, THAT AMENDMENT FAILS FIVE TO SIX. UH, THERE, DO YOU WANT TO BRING, UH, YOUR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? I WITHDRAW MY OTHER AMENDMENT. IT'S NOT, IF, IF THAT AMENDMENT PASSED THEN THE OTHER ONE'S NOT RELEVANT. OKAY. UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS, UH, TO THE, UM, UH, BASE MOTION? 56? LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON 56, THOSE IN FAVOR OF 56, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER KITCHEN CALL TOVO, UH, S ILLA, UH, POOL. UH, THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. IT'S THE REMAINING THREE. UH, THIS PASSES EIGHT TO THREE. UH, HEY, LET'S GO ON TO, UH, THE, THE NEXT ITEM COLLEAGUES. WE HAVE 45 MINUTES AND WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS LEFT FOR US TO, UH, CONSIDER, I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY WE CAN TRY TO MOVE THEM. THE FOUR ITEMS WE HAVE LEFT FOR THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE, THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT REGULATING PLAN AND THE STATE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA WITH RESPECT TO THE COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER BULL HOUSE ITEM 54 61. ARE YOU READY FOR THAT? NOW I THROW A TOPO. I AM PULL, I, I WAS JUST THINKING, WHERE ARE WE WITH ITEM 90, ITEM 90, WHAT? SOUTH CENTRAL SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT. HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA DO THAT HERE. I'M HOPING WE CAN DO THESE IN LIKE 10 OR 15 MINUTES. OKAY. SO WE COULD BE LIKE 20 MINUTES AWAY. THAT'S IN A PERFECT WORLD. OKAY. I, I JUST, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN FINISH ALL OUR WORKUP TONIGHT. I'M HOPING TO, WE HAVE FOUR THINGS LEFT. I'M NOT GONNA ASK MORE QUESTIONS. OKAY. COUNCIL TOBO [54. Approve a resolution directing the City Manager to direct the use of Convention Center funds to restore the interior of the Castleman-Bull House for use as a Convention Center facility and to ensure that the forthcoming Palm District Plan proposes to integrate the Castleman-Bull House in a meaningful way.] MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF [09:00:01] VERSION THREE, WHICH I DISTRIBUTED ON THE DIAS. AND IF I GET A SECOND, I'LL SPEAK TO IT. OKAY. UH, COUNCIL TOBO MOVES PASSAGE OF, UH, THIS, UH, ITEM 54, I BELIEVE 54 ITEM 54 COUNCILMAN BOWL HOUSE. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH SHEET OF PAPER IS THERE A SECOND TO, UH, ITEM 54. THIS IS THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE ITEM, COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN SECONDS. THAT ITEM MAYOR I'VE MADE, UM, SOME SIGNIFICANT. SO THIS WAS, AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UM, IT GOT PUSHED TO THE AGENDA. AND SO I HAVE FILLED IT OUT WITH, AS A TRADITIONAL, IF C I'VE INCORPORATED. I THINK ALL OF WHAT I WOULD REGARD AS A SIGNIFICANT EDITS THAT YOU PROVIDED ME WITH WITH ONE EXCEPTION, WE HAVE ALL RECEIVED, UM, UM, LETTER FROM PRESERVATION, AUSTIN, SUPPORTING, SUPPORTING THIS PATH FORWARD. I'M SURE AT THIS HOUR, NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THE HISTORY OF IT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY TOOK POSSESSION OF DECADES AGO AND HAS NOT. UM, AT ONE POINT HAD AN OFFER TO PRO, UM, OF MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS TO RE RESTORE IT. AND THAT KIND OF FELL APART. I HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THAT HERE TODAY, UM, MORE RECENTLY IN 2019, THE CONVENTION CENTER CENTER SPENT 1.7 MILLION TO RESTORE AND STABILIZE THE EXTERIOR. THIS WOULD TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND BEGIN THE PATH OF EVALUATING WHAT THE COSTS WOULD BE OF RESTORING THE INTERIOR. AS YOU LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION, THE CHANGES FROM THE OTHER DAY. WELL, LET ME SAY, THOUGH, I DO NEED TO MAKE ONE, ONE CHANGE, AND THAT IS TO CHANGE FROM 10 MILLION. THE VERSION THAT YOU HAVE SAYS 10 MILLION, IT NEEDS TO SAY EIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE POSTED FOR. THIS RESERVES, THE FUNDING, IT DOESN'T ALLOCATE IT. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK ONCE THE REPORTING IS DONE AND THE COMMUNITY WORK IS DONE, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. UH, YOU WILL SEE INFORMATION IN THERE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY PROCESS. IT NOW INDICATE IT. NOW SPELLS OUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE USES, INCLUDING FOR THE BLACK EMBASSY CONVENTION CENTER PURPOSES OR OTHER CITY OR THIRD PARTY USES. IT IDENTIFIES SOME STAKEHOLDERS. I'VE USED YOUR LANGUAGE. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER MEDICINE ABOUT CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT AND REPRESENTATIVE ORGANIZATIONS. I HAVE ALSO CALLED OUT SOME SPECIFIC STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PALM PALM DISTRICT PLANNING INITIATIVE. IT IDENTIFIES THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT SHOULD BE NOTIFIED IN ADVANCE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS. AND IT DOES, IT DOES INVOLVE MORE THAN JUST IT DOES, UM, DIRECT THE MANAGER TO INCLUDE MORE THAN JUST THE CONVENTION CENTER STAFF, BECAUSE THIS REALLY SHOULD BE A BROADER CONVERSATION THAT INVOLVES OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, OUR EQUITY OFFICE, THE GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER MUSEUM, AS WELL AS THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE MEMO WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL. THE ANALYSIS OF THE COSTS AND THE ESTIMATE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DISCUSS IN PARALLEL WITH THAT PERHAPS AT THE SAME MEETINGS. UH, I THINK IT'S THE EQUITY OFFICE AS, AS ALL OF US KNOW, IS SPEARHEADING THE REVIEW PROCESS OF FACILITY NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONFEDERACY AND, AND THAT THAT PIECE WOULD ALSO BE HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, UM, WORKING WITH ME ON THIS AND, AND DISCUSSING IT AND, AND ACCEPTING, UM, AMENDMENTS. I HAVE ONE LAST ONE THAT I'VE HANDED OUT TO EVERYBODY. I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS OKAY WITH YOU AS WELL. I MADE SOME LANGUAGE CHA CHANGES TO IT THAT YOU HAD SUGGESTED IT'S BEEN HANDED OUT TO EVERYBODY IN UPRIGHT HAND CORNER. IT SAYS, ITEM NUMBER 54. IT IS MAYOR ADLER MOTION, ONE V FOUR. UH, AND THE ONE CHANGE I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD MAKE FOR THIS NOW THAT I READ YOUR MOTION, YOU ALLOWED FOR POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES IN THE EVENT THAT, UH, IT WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND TWO CHANGES TO WHAT'S HANDED OUT FIRST, THE 10 MILLION SHOULD BE 8 MILLION, AS YOU JUST SAID. AND THEN THE LIST OF CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD SAY POSSIBLE USES. AND THEN I WOULD INSERT FINAL FUNDING, SOURCES, RESTORATION, AND LOCATION MAYOR THAT'S ALREADY IN. I THINK THE, THE FUNDING SOURCES IS A PIECE THAT'S ALREADY IN MINE. NO, NO, NO. I, I SAW IT THERE. SO YOU, YOU WERE ALLOWING FOR THAT. SO HERE I WAS SAYING THAT, UH, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION, KIND OF THAT I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. IT JUST ADDED THE CAUSE I SAW THAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE COMPLETE WITH THAT. YES, MOST OF THAT IS FINE. I WANNA VOTE ON THE LOCATION. UM, I NEED TO MAKE A COUPLE EDITS. YOU'VE CHANGED. I THINK IT NEEDS TO [09:05:01] SAY THE COUNCIL BY SEPARATE ACTION RESERVES 8 MILLION. I THINK IT SAYS RESERVE. THAT WAS MY, OKAY. MY, I THINK THAT WAS AN ERROR IN MY ORIGINAL. OKAY. SO RESERVES BECOMES PLURAL FROM THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER FUNDS, I WOULD SAY SO MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR AN INTERIOR RESTORATION MONEY, CONSISTENT WITH MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR AN INTERIOR RESTORATION, CONSISTENT WITH, I WOULD JUST CUT TO CONSISTENT WITH, FOR I AND INTERIOR RESTORATION RESTORATION, AND THEN CUT AND WITH SUCH RENOVATION AS WELL, CONSISTENT WITH. OKAY. UM, AND THEN AFTER HISTORIC PROPERTIES REMOVE THE COM I'M FINE WITH YOUR LANGUAGE. OKAY. I WOULD SAY, AND THEN, AND THEN I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON LOCATION. OKAY. SO, SO I'M FINE WITH ALL OF IT EXCEPT FOR THE LOCATION. SO LET'S HOLD OFF LOCATION IN JUST A SECOND. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE BALANCE OF THIS HAS CHANGED WITHOUT, INCLUDING THE WORD AND LOCATION. OKAY. THAT'S NOW INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL. UH, NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE INCLUSION FUNDING SOURCES POSSIBLE USES FINAL FUNDING SOURCES, AND IT'LL EITHER SAY AND RESTORATION, OR IT'LL SAY RESTORATION AND LOCATION, BUT NOW, NOW LET'S SEE WHICH ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS IT IS. UM, COLLEAGUES I HAD PUT LOCATION IN THERE JUST BECAUSE I HAD HEARD THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PERHAPS MOVING IT TO A DIFFERENT PARK SITE, A DIFFERENT PARK. UM, I JUST AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS ENOUGH TO KNOW WHETHER WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THAT OR NOT. AND I DON'T WANNA LIMIT THAT. SO IN THE CONVERSATION THAT THEY'RE HAVING, I WANT THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT LOCATION. I'M JUST NOT READY TO, TO DECIDE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT LOCATION. IT GOT MOVED THERE. I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. I KNOW THAT TOO. UH, BUT I'M JUST NOT READY TO BE PRESCRIPTIVE THAT THIS IS THE LOCATION IT SHOULD BE AT. SO FOR THAT REASON WHILE THEY WERE DOING THIS STUDY, I WOULD'VE ALSO INVITED THEM TO ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS THE BEST PLACE, UH, FOR THIS TO, UH, TO, TO BE. AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE THAT COUNCIL. THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE ABOUT THAT IS THE STRUCTURE SUFFICIENTLY STURDY THAT IT COULD BE MOVED YET. AGAIN, DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. AND IF IT'S NOT, IT'LL BE REALLY EASY QUESTION FOR THEM TO ANSWER. AND IF IT IS STURDY ENOUGH, THEN THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THEY WANNA LOOK AT. SO, SO THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE, DOES IT PRECLUDE, CAN, UH, CHECKING THE, THE STRUCTURE STATUS OR DOES IT ASSUME THAT IT'S MOVEABLE IT, IT DOESN'T ASSUME THAT AT ALL. OKAY. IT, IT, IT MAY VERY WELL BE THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE PLACE FOR IT. IT A VERY EASY QUESTION FOR THEM TO ANSWER. I JUST DON'T KNOW. SURE. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT CONNECTED UP TO ANY UTILITIES. IT WOULD NEED TO BE CONNECTED NO MATTER WHERE IT WOULD GO. BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE TO MOVE THESE STRUCTURES AND TO DO IT CAREFULLY. SO IT, IT COULD BE THAT AS WE ALSO LOOK AT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO MOVE IT, BUT THAT WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE A CONSIDERATION. I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AND IT MAY OR WILL BE, THIS IS THE BEST PLACE I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE INFORMATION BEFORE I MAKE THAT DECISION. UH, CUSTOMER ELLIS. I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION JUST ABOUT THE EDITS. WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY IN THE FIRST BE IT RESOLVED, IT LOOKS LIKE IT USED TO SAY THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE CITY OF BOSTON HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THAT LINE, BUT I DO SEE THAT THEY ARE CALLED OUT IN A SUBSEQUENT, BE IT RESOLVE THAT TALKS ABOUT, UM, THE GEORGE WASHINGTON CAR MUSEUM, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND RECREATION. SO THE IDEA IS THAT THEY WOULD STILL BE INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION, JUST KIND OF RELOCATED HOW IT WAS ARRANGED. EXACTLY. AND, AND PART OF THE PURPOSE THERE IS I THINK THE HISTORIC, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE IS THE RIGHT CITY DEPARTMENT TO ADVISE ON PRESERVATION TO, TO STANDARDS, UM, OF THE, THE, UM, SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS. THAT'S KIND OF IN THEIR, IN THEIR, THEIR, UM, WHEELHOUSE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. THAT'S FAR TOVA DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THIS? UM, YES, I DO WANNA ADDRESS, SORRY. IT'S THE TIME. SO MY PHONE IS LIKE EVERYBODY, ALL OF MY DAUGHTERS ARE CALLING ME FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE HOUSE. WONDERING WHY I'M NOT HOME. UM, WE'RE TRYING TO GET YOU THERE. SO YES, I, I WOULD. SO I THINK THERE ARE MULTIPLE PROBLEMS WITH, WITH CONSIDERING LOCATION ONE. I THINK IT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY ABOUT A YEAR AGO TO, TO, UM, SIT IN A VARIETY OF CONVERSATIONS WITH VARIOUS HOUSE MOVERS, TALKING ABOUT A VERY DIFFERENT STRUCTURE AND IT, IT IS ONE EXPENSIVE. IT IS TWO VERY DESTRUCTIVE USUALLY TO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF. AND WE'VE JUST INVESTED 1.7 MILLION OF, OF PUBLIC FUNDING IN THE EXTERIOR RE RENOVATION THAT WOULD BE LOST. IT IS NOT A BEST PRACTICE. NOW IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED ONCE, BUT IT IS STILL VERY CLOSE TO ITS ORIGINAL HISTORIC, UM, CONTEXT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH PREFERABLE TO, TO MOVING IT. IF IT WERE TO BE MOVED OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN, YOU'RE REALLY TAKING IT OUT OF ITS [09:10:01] HISTORIC CONTEXT. AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, AT REMOVE AT TAKING DOWN ALL THE UTILITY LINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS, I THINK IT IS ONE LOGISTICALLY COMPLICATED. I THINK TOO, IT WOULD BE FINANCIALLY CHALLENGING. IT WOULD REMOVE IT FROM ITS HISTORIC CONTEXT. AND, BUT FUNDAMENTALLY LIKE AFTER 20 YEARS, IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, I WANNA SEE THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS COME TOGETHER AND REALLY TALK ABOUT USE, HOW ARE WE GONNA USE IT? HOW SHOULD IT BE APPROPRIATELY NAMED? HOW DO WE TELL THE COMPLICATED, PARTLY RACIST HISTORY OF THAT SITE, OF THAT STRUCTURE? UM, AND HOW DO WE USE IT IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS THE PUBLIC? SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEFORE THAT GROUP AND I WOULD LIKE THEM TO STAY FOCUSED ON, ON THOSE RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, REOPENING THE QUESTION OF WHERE IT GOES. CUZ I, TO SOME EXTENT, I THINK THAT QUESTION WAS SETTLED ONCE WE SPENT A 1.7 MILLION ON IT. I ALSO WANNA SAY THE PALM DISTRICT PLANNING EFFORT HAS CONCLUDED. AND I DID ASK, UM, STEVIE GREATHOUSE, WHO WAS ONE OF THE TEAM ON THAT, WHETHER THEY HAD DISCUSSED MOVING IT, AND THIS IS WHAT I RECEIVED BACK. WE'VE NOT SHARED ANYTHING WITH THE PUBLIC TO DATE THAT ADDRESSES THIS SPECIFIC SITE BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING CONVENTION CENTER AND WATERLOO GREENWAY, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE SPACIAL SCENARIO THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD AS PART OF THE DRAFT PLAN WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW THE COUNCILMAN BULL HOUSE IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I THINK THIS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS MAY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT TRANSPIRED WITHIN THE PALM DISTRICT PLAN PLANNING EFFORT. SO AGAIN, I'D RATHER THAN JUST KIND OF USE THAT TIME TOGETHER TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE MORE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS RATHER THAN REOPEN SOMETHING THAT COULD END UP BEING A RABBIT HOLE. I JUST WANNA SAY FORWARD MOVEMENT ON, ON THIS. YEAH. AND I THINK WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET THE FORWARD. BOOM. AND I JUST, THE REPORT ISN'T EVEN OUT YET HASN'T BEEN REACTED TO YET. SO I WOULD JUST GIVE PEOPLE THE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. MR. GO, I DIDN'T TAKE A VOTE. UM, YES, BY THE WAY, I WANNA MAKE SURE I CALLED OUT THE VOTE. I'M NOT SURE. I CALLED OUT THE VOTE ON THE LICENSE PLATE READER CORRECTLY. IT WAS SEVEN TO FOUR. THE NO VOTES ON THAT. HOW DID YOU VOTE ON THAT? HARPER MADISON VOTED? NO, FUENTEZ VOTED NO ADLER VOTED NO. AND VELA VOTED. NO, THE VOTE WAS SEVEN TO FOUR AND THE RECORD SHOULD REFLECT THAT. OKAY. BACK TO THE AMENDMENT. SHOULD WE INCLUDE LOCATION OR NOT? DID ANYONE WANNA COMMENT ON THAT BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON IT? WHETHER WE SHOULD INCLUDE LOCATION STATE? YEAH. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE VOTING ON? THE QUESTION IS WHEN THE, WHEN THE MANAGER COMES BACK TO US, SHOULD HE ALSO GIVE US HIS RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER THIS IS THE BEST LOCATION FOR IT? OR SHOULD WE JUST AT THIS POINT SAY THIS IS THE LOCATION. OKAY. AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, VOTING ON. YES. AND THEN IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADDING LOCATION, UH, WHICH IS THE AMENDMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, THEIA FUENTES, UH, UH, ALICE, UH, ME, UH, AND, UH, VELA THOSE OPPOSED TO THAT AMENDMENT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, POOL. I HAVE A POOL, UH, THE MAYOR PRO TEAM, UH, KITCHEN TOVO AND, UH, UH, MACKENZIE KELLY. UH, DID YOU VOTE? I HAVE FIVE OUTTA FIVE TO WHETHER OR NOT INC. OKAY. SIX, FIVE THAT PASSES. SO IT'S GONNA SAY END LOCATION. LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THE OVERALL, UM, CUSTOM AND BOWL HOUSE, THEN MOTION MANAGER JUST BEFORE YOU VOTE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, I KNOW THAT THIS IS, UH, COMING TO HAVE STAFF REACT TO IT QUICKLY, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE TIME FRAMES THIS ATTACHED TO IT. AND SO, UM, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO BE RESPONSIVE, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD, THAT'S IN A VERY AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE. UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WOULD WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT, BUT CERTAINLY WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO ACHIEVE THOSE TIMELINES. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, COUNCIL HAR MEDICINE. UM, BEFORE WE VOTE, I WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE THINGS. I, I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO ACKNOWLEDGED MY CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RACIST HISTORY AND, AND, UH, REALLY, UH, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN THE, IN THE RESOLUTION. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL USES WE LISTED THE BLACK EMBASSY, UM, IS THERE AND, AND NOOK TURNER IS HERE. CHARLES BYD IS HERE. AND I WONDER IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO TALK TO. WE COULD, IF YOU WANTED TO, WE HAVE 30 MINUTES LEFT AND WE HAVE FOUR THINGS LEFT ON OUR AGENDA. WE'RE TRYING TO MR. BIRD, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THE RECOMMEND THE SUGGESTION THAT THIS IS A POTENTIAL FOR A LOCATION [09:15:01] FOR THE BLACK EMBASSY? ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? YEAH, HE'S A, HE'S A STAR APPRECIATE THE, UM, OPPORTUNITY. UM, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW ME, MY NAME IS CHARLES BYD, BUT I GO BY NOOK TURNER. THAT'S MY IDENTITY. AND THAT'S WHAT I DO IS, IS, IS WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND FIGHT FOR FREEDOM FOR MY PEOPLE. UM, I REPRESENT AN ORGANIZATION CALLED JOY COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT IN THE CITY. WE CELEBRATED 25 YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE CITY THIS YEAR, UM, AND DOING COMMUNITY WORK AND I'M PART OF A GROUP CALLED BLACK AUSTIN COALITION THAT HELPED BRING FORTH THE RESTITUTION RESOLUTION THAT YOU GUYS VOTED ON, UM, TO RESTITUTE BLACK AUSTIN TO CONDUCT A REPORT, UM, TO SHOW THE DAMAGES AND LOSSES THAT, UM, BLACKS HAVE SUFFERED DUE TO THE 1928 MASTER PLAN, ALONG WITH APOLOGIZING FOR SYSTEMIC RACISM, SLAVERY, AND, UM, BASICALLY PUTTING US IN A SITUATION WHERE BLACK SKIN CAN GET A PIECE OF THE PIE AND EQUITABLE PIECE OF THE PIE IN THE CITY. AND SO I'M HERE MAINLY. I WANT TO THANK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, WANNA THANK THE MAYOR AND FOR EVERYONE WHO CHAMPIONED AND, AND PUSHED FOR THE, THE RESOLUTION AND EVERYONE WHO VOTED, CUZ Y'ALL ALL VOTED YES ON IT. SO I THANK Y'ALL ON THAT. AND UM, I MEAN IT WAS VERY PLEASED AND THEY EVEN HEAR THAT, THAT THIS BUILDING WOULD BE IN CONSIDERATION FOR THE BLACK EMBASSY. AND SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND THE OPPORTUNITY AND I'M SURE THE COMMUNITY DOES AS WELL. UM, MY QUESTION TO YOU GUYS TODAY IN, IN SPEAKING AND LOOKING AT EVERYTHING IS, AND THIS IS FOR THE BLACK EMBASSY SIDE. IF THIS SITE DOES NOT FIT THE BLACK EMBASSY, THEN WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP, UM, FOR THAT WHEN, AND I'M GLAD THAT IT'S BACK UP IN CONVERSATIONS AND, AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, UM, HARPER MEDICINE FOR EVEN HAVING IN, IN CONSIDERATION. AND THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? UM, IN CASE THIS DOESN'T FIT THE BLACK EMBASSY, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS IN THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU GUYS VOTED ON WAS FOR IT TO BE A CONS COMPREHENSIVE STUDY. AND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BROUGHT BACK, UM, TO COUNCIL WITHIN SIX MONTHS, UM, AND TO VOTE. AND THAT NEVER HAPPENED. WE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING FROM THERE. AND THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES WE'VE EVEN HEARD BLACK EMBASSY BEING TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS FROM YOU GUYS. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF UNCHECKED BOXES FROM YOU GUYS THAT Y'ALL PROMISE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT Y'ALL WOULD HAVE. AND SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY QUESTION ON THAT IS IF THIS SITE DOES NOT FIT AND WORK FOR THAT, THEN WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR THE BLACK EMBASSY. YOU REMEMBER HARPER MADISON? SURE. THANK YOU, MR. TURNER. I I'M TAKING AWAY TWO THINGS MANAGER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PICKED UP ON THAT TOO. IT SOUNDED LIKE ONE, WE VERY MUCH OWE BAC A RESPONSE. UM, AND THEN TWO, IT SOUNDED LIKE MR. TURNER WAS SAYING IF, IF WE CAN'T COMMIT AS A BODY, UM, TO THE DEDICATION OF THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE TO THE BLACK EMBASSY, THEN, UM, DO WE HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR AN ALTERNATE LOCATION? UM, A CITY, UH, HELD ASSET. I CAN THINK OF A COUPLE IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT I'M CERTAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN OUR RESOURCES WE CAN, UM, MAYBE THE DIRECTION IS TO, TO, UH, LOOK INTO WHAT OTHER ASSETS COULD POSSIBLY BE DEDICATED TO THE BLACK EMBASSY. SO THEN WE WILL CERTAINLY BE FOLLOWING UP TO GIVE YOU A CURRENT STATUS OF THAT CONVERSATION AND TO UPDATE THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THE ITEM HERE. COUNCILMAN BOWL HAS AMENDED THOSE A FAVORITE? YES. IS THIS THE, I, I HAVE TWO PRINTOUTS AND THEY ALL LOOK ALMOST THE SAME. IT'S UH, IT'S UH, VIRGIN THREE AND IT'S OH, 9 15 20 22. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON? YES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YES. OKAY. OKAY. TAKE A VOTE. WE READY? THOSE ARE FAVORITE SENATOR. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM. UH, HARPER MADISON RENTED THE, UH, TWO, NO VOTES. THE OTHER, ALL TWO, NO VOTES. THOSE TWO KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY ABSTAINING. I'M FOUR. I JUST DIDN'T GET MY HAND OUT PAST COUNCIL MEMBER VELA OFF THE DIAS. THAT'S TWO, NO ONE ABSTENTION. ONE OFF THE DIAS. THAT MEANS THERE WERE SEVEN VOTES FOR MS. PASSES. SEVEN TWO TO TWO MAYOR. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE FINAL LANGUAGE? THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID IN ONE OF YOUR AMENDMENTS THAT I LIKED. I WONDER IF IT MADE IT TO THE FINAL TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER S POINT. THERE'S A LOT OF PAPER OVER HERE. UM, BUT SEPARATE FROM THE COST ESTIMATE, THE CITY MANAGERS [09:20:01] DIRECTED TO CONDUCT A STUDY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, ET CETERA, CETERA. UM, ANY RECOMMENDATION USE SHOULD INCLUDE POSSIBLE FUNDING, SO THAT, THAT DID MAKE IT INTO THE FI. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, IT DID IN TWO PLACES. ALL RIGHT, PAT SEVEN, FOUR TO SEVEN, TWO TO TWO. ALL RIGHT, GUYS. WE'RE NOW 9 36. UH, AND STAFF SAYS, THIS IS TO REALLY MAKE SURE WE GET THE CONVENTION CENTER GARAGE FEES DONE. AND THE REGULATING PLAN DONE. [61. Approve an ordinance amending the Fiscal Year 2022-2023 Convention Center Department Operating Budget, Convention Center Capital Fund (Ordinance No. 20220817-004) to increase the transfer out by a total of $8,000,000 and to amend the Convention Center Department Capital Budget (Ordinance No. 20220817-004) to transfer in and appropriate $8,000,000 for the renovations and restoration of the interior of the Castleman-Bull House for Convention Center Use.] WE HAVE, UH, AN AMENDMENT, A BUDGET. THERE IS AN ACTUAL BUDGET ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ASSOCIATED WITH CASAS MIN. OKAY. SO LEGAL REACHED OUT AND LET'S CONFIRM THIS. DO WE NEED TO DO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IF WE'RE PRESERVING THE DOLLARS? NO, YOU DO NOT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT A YES. SORRY. LELA FIRE SIDE FOR THE LAW DEPARTMENT. I HAVE CHECKED IN WITH FINANCE AND THE WAY THAT THE, UM, MAYOR HAS WORDED HIS, UM, ITEM, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THAT OKAY, KATHY? UM, BUDGET AMENDMENT WILL YOUR LANGUAGE. AND I MEAN, YOU'VE, I YOU'VE LOOKED AT, I MEAN THE LANGUAGE, I THINK YOUR LANGUAGE, I TOOK YOUR POINT AND THEN I ADJUSTED, I THINK YOUR LANGUAGE HAD ALREADY DONE, SO. RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, [90. Approve a resolution relating to the development of a regulating plan for the South Central Waterfront District. (Part 1 of 2)] UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO ONWARD PROTECTION, NUMBER 90, WHICH IS SOUTH CENTRAL WATER FUND PLAN. I THINK I CAN ACCEPT BOTH YOUR EMOTIONS AS, UH, FRIENDLY, UH, WITH THAT. CAN WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 90? YOU NEED MOTION. OKAY. I MOVED PASSAGE OF ITEM NUMBER 90. IS THERE SECOND TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER? UH, VELA SECOND, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, TOVO MOVES HER TO AMENDMENTS MOTION ONE AND MOTION. NUMBER TWO. UH, I'M FINE WITH THOSE. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THOSE TWO MOTIONS BEING ADDED HEARING ON THOSE TWO MOTIONS ARE ADDED. LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON 90. READY? OH, THERE'S ONE ON THE BACK TOO ONE ON THE BACK. OH ACTION. ACTUALLY, I DON'T WANNA MOVE TO THE LAST ONE. YEAH, THIS IS THE FIRST TWO. OKAY. THOSE FIRST TWO ON PAGE ONE ARE PART OF THE EMOTIONAL IS TAKE A VOTE ON 90 WITH THOSE TWO AMENDMENTS THOSE IN FAVOR OF 90. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S VOTING. NO. YES. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE VOTING? NO, I I'M ABSTAINING CUZ I ALL RIGHT. LET'S JUST CALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF 90. PLEASE. RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER, PAUL RENT, FUENTES, UH, ELLIS, UM, CHITO, UH, KITCHEN AND ME, I COUNT SEVEN. THOSE, UH, OPPOSED PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. COUNCIL MEMBER. KELLY IS VOTING. NO THOSE ABSTAINING. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UM, I HAVE THE MAYOR PRO TE AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO UM, AND HOW ARE YOU VOTING? ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE TWO ABSTENTIONS, SO WE HAVE, UH, ONE, NO VOTE. WE HAVE THREE ABSTENTIONS, THIS PASSES 7 1 3. ALL RIGHT. LET'S TURN TO THE GARAGE STUFF. YES. MAY PRETEND. I JUST WANNA SAY I'M ABSTAINING CUZ I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR INFORMATION FOR A REALLY LONG TIME AND, AND NOT GETTING IT. AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS ITEM DOES. SO I CAN'T, I DON'T THINK IT HARMS IT AS LONG AS WE STILL GET STUFF BACK, BUT UM, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT SOMETHING ON THE S POD WITHOUT A REGULATING PLAN THAT I CAN AT LEAST VIEW BEFORE WE PASS. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S [55. Approve a resolution revising the fees for the Convention Center parking garage, and directing the City Manager to include the Convention Center parking garage in the City’s affordable parking program and to present information to City Council prior to or during Fiscal Year 2024 budget deliberations about parking rates and revenues at the Austin Convention Center and other City-owned garages.] GO TO THE, UH, GARAGE, UH, ISSUE COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO I THINK IT'S YOURS AS WELL. IT IS. THIS ALSO IS A HOLDOVER FROM THE BUDGET. IT'S THE BUDGET AMENDMENT. I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL OF WHATEVER VERSION THIS IS. IT FEELS LIKE ABOUT 90 VERSION NUMBER 90. UM, SORRY. I, I DON'T HAVE IT MARKED HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S VERSION THREE. LET ME, LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT IT DOES ON ITEM ON PAGE TWO. IT'S IT HAS UNDERLYING TEXT THAT SAYS, WHEREAS IN 2016 AND 2017, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE. SO IT'S THAT VERSION THAT'S DISTRIBUTED A LITTLE EARLIER TODAY. I SENT, WENT OUT WITHOUT THIS LANGUAGE. SO THE, THE VERSION TWO WAS REALLY THE SAME AS WHAT HAD BEEN POSTED IN THE BACKUP. THIS IS THE ONE I WOULD, THAT HAS THE ITEMS ITEM 55 ITEM 55. SO I AM MOVING APPROVAL OF THE VERSION THAT'S BEEN DISTRIBUTED ON THE DIAS AND DISTRIBUTED VIA KATIE. AND THE WAY YOU'LL KNOW IT'S THE MOST RECENT ONE IS THAT LINE 34. THERE IS ADDITIONAL TEXT THAT TALKS ABOUT IN 2016 AND 2017, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE WORKING WITH CITY OF AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION TEXT. THE MAIN CHANGES THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THIS VERSION ARE, [09:25:01] UM, ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT CAME FROM FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY THAT, UH, PROVIDES SOME USEFUL HISTORY ABOUT THE, THE DOWNTOWN ABOUT OUR VARIOUS PARKING STRATEGY DOCUMENTS. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO MOVES HER, UH, VERSION THAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED TO US OF THE GARAGE. UH, ITEM. IS THERE A SECOND TO THIS KENMAN POOL SECONDS. IT COUNCILMAN TOBO THANKS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A BUNCH. UM, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS RAISED THE OTHER DAY ABOUT KIND OF WHY WE'RE SPENDING TIME ON THIS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE PASSED MULTIPLE POLICIES ABOUT ENCOURAGING MODE SHIFT, CHEAP PARKING AT OUR CITIES. DOESN'T REALLY FACILITATE THAT. UM, IN AN ABSENCE OF A STATED COMMUNITY BENEFIT, WE HAVE AN ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY TO COLLECT REASONABLE AND FAIR RATES FOR THE RENTAL AND USE OF OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES TO DO SO FREEZE UP ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR OTHER KINDS OF USES, AS IT DID HERE AT THE PARKING GARAGE AT THE CITY WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO, TO, TO USE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF, OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. THIS, THIS DOESN'T DO THAT QUITE, BUT IT DOES ALLOW US TO PAY BACK DEBT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING, HAVING WHAT THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE Q AND A DESCRIBED AS THE CHEAPEST PARKING IN DOWNTOWN, I DON'T THINK IS THE WAY WE SHOULD BE USING OUR PUBLIC ASSETS. THERE IS LANGUAGE EXPLICITLY ARTICULATING THAT THE CURRENT PRACTICE THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS OF BEING ABLE TO VALIDATE FOR CONVENTION YEARS, TO BE ABLE TO SET PRICING THAT'S VARIABLE FOR EVENT ORGANIZERS, ALL OF THAT WILL REMAIN. SO YOU'LL SEE LANGUAGE THAT MAKES IT EXTREMELY CLEAR THAT NONE OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE GOING AWAY. ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE CONVENTION CENTER STAFF TO DO THAT. AND YOU KNOW, JUST ONE OTHER POINT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT I THINK THIS IS CONSISTENT ONE WITH OUR PARKING STRATEGIES, WITH OUR PARKING MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, WITH OUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY STRATEGIES. AND, AND ALSO I JUST POINT OUT THAT HAVING, HAVING EXTREMELY INEXPENSIVE PARKING ADJACENT TO TWO NIGHTTIME ENTERTAINMENT AREAS IS, IS ALSO NOT, UM, IS POTENTIALLY ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DRIVE DOWNTOWN THIS RESOLUTION. IN ADDITION TO ADJUSTING THE PARKING RATES ALSO MAKES THE CONVENTION CENTER PART OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE PARKING PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT ADDITION. YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF TARGETED STRATEGIES, ONE ALLOWING THE CONVENTION CENTER TO CONTINUE ITS PRACTICE, TO DO PRICING FOR EVENTS THAT THEY THINK ALLOWS THEM TO MAINTAIN THEIR COMPETITIVE EDGE THAT'S GONNA REMAIN AND THEN ALLOW, UH, ENCOURAGING OR REQUIRING THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE AFFORDABLE PARKING PROGRAM, ALLOWS THEM TO, TO REALLY OFFER THAT CHEAPER PARKING TO THE PEOPLE WE WANNA TARGET OUR SERVICE INDUSTRY. THERE ARE OTHER, UM, FEE RATES IN THE PARKING, IN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PASSED IN THE BUDGET FOR SERVICE INDU FOR HOTEL INDUSTRY, ALL OF THOSE RATES WOULD REMAIN THE SAME. SO AGAIN, THEY'LL, THEY'LL RETAIN THE FLEXIBILITY OF CONTINUING TO PROVIDE FOR, FOR, UM, THOSE IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY. OKAY. THERE'S A, UH, MOTION IN, UH, FRONT OF US, MARY. YES. I WOULD LIKE THE STAFF TO ADDRESS, UH, WHAT'S UH, WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER. UH, I, THE LAST TIME THAT THEY CAME UP BEFORE ME, BEFORE US, UH, THEY WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BIG PLAN THAT THEY, THEY COMPETE WITH OTHER CONVENTION CENTERS BECAUSE OF THE, OF THE EXPENSE OF PARKING AND THEY'RE ABLE TO KEEP IT LOW AND IT MAKES 'EM MORE COMPETITIVE. SO I JUST WANTED TO THEIR OPINION OF THE, OF IF THAT'S STILL THE CASE, IF WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS IS I'M TRISHA TETRA DIRECTOR OF THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER. UH, STAFF DOES STILL HAVE CONCERNS, UM, ABOUT THE BULK VALIDATION SYSTEM. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, SET UP TO BULK VALIDATE FOR VERY SMALL QUANTITIES, MOSTLY AT THE PALMER EVENT CENTER, UH, MOVING AND SHIFTING OUR COMPLETE BUSINESS MODEL TO A, UH, VALIDATION ON A DAILY BASIS FOR THOUSANDS OF ATTENDEES, UH, PROVES TO BE COMPLEX. WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT PREVIOUSLY. UM, AND IT ISN'T, UM, A VIABLE, OR IT WOULD REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO OUR OPERATIONS. IT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT. IT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFFING AND STAFF HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT IT WOULD TAKE IN ORDER TO GET THAT PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING, GIVEN THE CURRENT, UH, EVENT LOAD THAT WE HAVE TAKING PLACE. UM, ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD SEE THAT WE WOULD BE DISCOUNTING, UM, OR DOING THOSE SPECIAL EVENT RATES FOR OUR CUSTOMERS ON A DAILY BASIS, UM, WHICH COULD CAUSE SOME CONFUSION IN THE MARKETPLACE. UM, AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, WE STILL BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE CURRENT PARKING [09:30:01] STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, UH, IS A MORE VERSATILE OPTION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THE, UH, RATES THAT WE CHARGE FOR THE CUSTOMER FOR, UH, NON-CON CONVENTION CENTER, CUSTOMERS THAT COME IN IN THE EVENINGS TO VISIT RAINY STREET AT SIXTH STREET. UH, WE DO HAVE AN, A HIGHER RATE STRUCTURE TOWARDS THE END OF THE DAY. WE DO CHARGE ADDITIONAL, UM, HIGHER RATES AT NIGHT AND ON THE WEEKENDS TO TRY TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CHARGING AT A HIGHER COST OF SERVICE FOR THOSE PATRONS THAT ARE NOT CONVENTION CENTER ATTENDEES. UH, BUT THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WOULD BE THE BULK VALIDATION SYSTEM, THE LENGTH OF TIME, IT WOULD TAKE TO SET THAT UP. AND, UH, WE FEEL LIKE IT COULD DEFINITELY AFFECT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO OUR CUSTOMERS BY TRYING TO REQUIRE OUR ATTENDEES TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO THEY BULK VALIDATE OR DO WE SIMPLY, UH, POST THOSE RATES AT THE GARAGE, WHICH WOULD BE ON, UH, YOU KNOW, ON A VERY, VERY FREQUENT BASIS. AND MAYOR, I, I REALLY HAVE, UH, REALLY CONCERNS. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN RUSHED THROUGH. I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE THOUGHT THIS THROUGH AND I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT ON THE CONVENTION CENTER. UH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAVE A BUSINESS PRACTICE THAT IS WORKING FOR US IF WE WANT TO STUDY THAT AND, AND GET IT READY FOR A NEXT YEAR BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN ADD MONEY, MORE FUNDING SO THAT IT CAN GET A VALIDATION SYSTEM THAT'S UP TO CODE AND UP TO, TO WHAT THE LATEST, UH, UH, THAT THEY CAN DO TO OPERATE THIS SYSTEM SMOOTHLY. AND I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED THAT, THAT THIS IS BEING RUSHED THROUGH. UH, AND I, I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO RUSH THROUGH IT. I THINK WE SHOULD STUDY THIS AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION ILLA. UM, UM, TO THAT END, UH, I'VE HANDED OUT IN AN AMENDMENT, UH, MAYOR ADLER MOTION, ONE IT'S MOTION SHEET, NUMBER ONE ON THE CONVENTION CENTER, PARKING GARAGE STUDY. SINCE I MOVED TO STRIKE LINES, IT HAD 48 TO 49. THAT WAS ON THE EARLIER VERSION. IT SHOULD SAY LINES 80 TO 87 OF ITEM, 55, VERSION THREE, PROBABLY THREE, AND REPLACED WITH THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION, UH, DIRECTED TO STUDY PARKING RATES AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER AND OTHER CITY OWNED GARAGES. IF THERE'S A SECOND TO THAT, I'LL ADDRESS THAT THERE SECOND, THAT MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER BALLOT, SECOND, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT VERY WELL BE ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT THING TO DO THE TRUTH IS I JUST, AGAIN, THIS SEEMS TO BE A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CONFLICT WITH STAFF THAT'S RECOMMENDING WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT. I JUST NEED MORE TIME. AND I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO DO A BETTER ANALYSIS OF THIS FOR ME, SO THAT I CAN MAKE A MORE, UH, EDUCATED, UH, DECISION, UH, RATHER THAN JUST TAKING IT, UM, UH, UH, DOWN ENTIRELY. UM, UH, I RECOMMENDED THAT WE JUST DON'T, UH, MAKE THE, THE, THE FEE CHANGES RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DO INCLUDE THE OTHER ITEMS THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVA HAD IN THE RESOLUTION. UH, AND THAT'S THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS WE'RE NOT GONNA ORDER RATE CHANGES NOW, BUT WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR A STUDY DISCUSSION VE I, I, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE ITEM I AGREE, UH, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOGO THAT WE NEED TO SNEAK THOSE RATES UP AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, MULTIMODAL USE CARPOOLING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT. I AM CONCERNED WITH, WITH THE, THE, THE, THE VALIDATION, YOU KNOW, THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT. I, I, I, I, SO I AM COMPLETELY THERE IN, IN, IN SPIRIT. I, I, WITH MAYOR ADLER IN THE SENSE OF I'M THE CONVENTION CENTER STAFF DID HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, I, I, I FEEL LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT KIND OF HOW THEY'RE GONNA EXECUTE A VALIDATION PROGRAM. UH, SO I, I, I I'LL SUPPORT THE, THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT COUNCIL MEMBER WENT THIS, THANK YOU. UM, FIRST I WANNA THANK THINK CUSTOMER RU TOBO FOR IDENTIFYING THIS AS A POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCE FOR US, AND, AND SEEING THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER RIGHT NOW DOES HAVE SOME OF THE CHEAPEST PARKING IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. I RECENTLY, UM, HAD A MEETING AT THE AIRPORT HOTEL IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN WHERE I PAID, UM, YOU KNOW, 10 MORE, WELL, IT WAS $10 FOR A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR. AND SO IF WE ARE CHARGING $10 IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN, WE SHOULD MOST CERTAINLY BE CHARGING MORE THAN $10 FOR PARKING IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. UM, BUT I APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT MAYOR THAT YOU'VE OFFERED HERE WITH YOUR DIRECTION. I WILL BE SUPPORTING YOUR DIRECTION. I DO THINK HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FOR STAFF TO COME THROUGH WITH A VALIDATION PROGRAM SYSTEM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, HAVING TIME FOR US, UM, TO EVALUATE THE SPECIFIC AMOUNT [09:35:01] THAT WE WANNA INCREASE OUR FEES, UM, IS THE WAY TO GO. UM, BUT FOR THE RECORD, I DO SUPPORT INCREASING OUR PARKING FEES AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT, UH, COUNCIL BAR TOBO THEN MAYOR PROTE MAYOR. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR OUR STAFF, FOR OUR CONVENTION CENTER STAFF, AND THEN I PASSED OUT AN AMENDMENT TO YOURS. UM, SO THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT THAT WAS APPROVED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND LISTS SPECIAL EVENT PARKING FROM $5 TO $25. SO HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT WHEN THAT'S A VARIABLE RATE ALSO, I DON'T SEE AND HEAR DIFFERENT RATES FOR THE DAYTIME, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU COMMUNICATE THOSE TWO, BUT HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE SPECIAL EVENT FEES? ARE THAT, IS THAT A SIGN AT THE END OF THE DOOR? I MEAN, AT THE, AS YOU ENTER THE GARAGE, A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE SPECIAL EVENT FEES ARE, ARE GEARED SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS, UH, EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, NOT AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. AND THIS IS MOSTLY UTILIZED AT THE PALMER EVENT CENTER. SO WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENT AT THE AUDITORIUM SHORES, OR PERHAPS AT THE LONG CENTER OR SOMEWHERE IN VICINITY, AND THERE'S NOTHING TAKING PLACE AT PALMER OR THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE WILL INCREASE THE RATES, UH, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR DIRECT BUSINESS. SO WHEN WE DO THAT, WE DO PUT THE RATES OUT, UM, ON OUR WEBSITE. AND ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL PUT THE SIGNS OUT ON THE STREET, BUT THAT IS, THOSE ARE VERY FEW NUMBER OF INSTANCES. AND IT'S ON CASES WHERE WILL NOT, OR WHERE IT WILL NOT CONFLICT WITH CONVENTION CENTER OR PALMER EVENT CENTER BUSINESS. BUT BECAUSE WE ARE ONE DEPARTMENT, THE CONVENTION CENTER AND PALMER EVENT CENTER, THE FEE SCHEDULE, I SEE. AND SO YOU'RE NOT VALIDATING IN THAT CASE. IT'S JUST A SIGN AS YOU GO IN, IF YOU WERE DOING IT AT, I MEAN, AND I THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I'VE EXPERIENCED IT AT THE PALMER EVENT CENTER GARAGE. IT'S NOT A VALIDATION SYSTEM. YOU JUST SEE WHAT THE RATE IS AND YOU PAY ON THE WAY IN THAT'S CORRECT. PALMER OPERATES DIFFERENTLY THAN THE CONVENTION CENTER. THERE'S AN ENTRY PAY THERE, THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, GARAGES OR EXIT PAY SO THAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE GETTING OUR CARS INTO THE GARAGE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE OFF THE STREET. UM, AND THEN THEY PAY ON EXIT. UH, SO IT OPERATES DIFFERENTLY AT THE TWO VENUES, WHICH IS WHY POSTING A SIGN AT PALMER FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, FOR RATES, UM, FOR EVENTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CONVE, THE PALMER EVENT CENTER ARE, WE ARE ABLE TO POST THOSE RATES. OKAY. CAUSE IT'S PAY ON ENTRY. OKAY. I THINK WITHOUT GETTING INTO BETTER, MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE VALIDATION RATE MAYOR, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ACCEPT MY AMENDMENT TO YOURS. UM, THIS, IF WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE RATE IS A LITTLE BIT OVER A DOLLAR FOR DOWNTOWN PARKING. I THINK IT IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE ARE WAY OVERDUE FOR ADJUSTING. THOSE WE'VE BEEN WAY OVERDUE IN MULTIPLE OF OUR PARKING GARAGES, INCLUDING THIS ONE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIX DURING, DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. THIS WOULD IN ESSENCE, UM, GIVE SOME FLESH TO THE STUDY THAT YOU'VE REQUESTED, BUT IT ENGAGES OUR PARKING ENTERPRISE STAFF IN ADDITION TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, SO THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE REAL DATA THAT OUR PARKING ENTERPRISE FOLKS COLLECT ON A REGULAR BASIS THAT SHOW THE DIFFERENT, THE DIFFERENT PARKING RATES. THEY CAN ALSO TRACK IT BY AREA BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE SPREADSHEET AND THAT IT COME BACK TO US, UM, THAT OUR, THAT WE ASK OUR CONVENTION CENTER STAFF TO WORK WITH THE PARKING ENTERPRISE AND COME BACK TO US WITH SOME KIND OF PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE APPROVE PARKING FEES, WE'VE NOW APPROVED WHAT WAS IN THE BUDGET WITH NO INCREASE. AND, AND I'M ASKING THAT THEY TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND COME UP WITH A, UM, A REASONABLE RATE TO DO THAT. I THINK IT SHOULD REFLECT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SET REASONABLE RATES, UM, THAT ALSO ASSIST IN PAYING DEBT AND ALSO SUPPORT OUR EXISTING POLICIES RELATED TO PARKING AND MOBILITY. I THINK THERE'S SOME BIGGER PATHS THAT SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TAKE IN, IN RELATIONSHIP TO HOW WE MANAGE OUR PARKING. I'VE REFLECTED THOSE IN, WHEREAS IS RATHER THAN IN, IN DIRECTIVES IN THIS RESOLUTION, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR ACTION ON THOSE. BUT AS I MENTIONED, COUNCIL MEMBER RILEY PROVIDED ME WITH SOME VERY USEFUL, SOME VERY USEFUL AMENDMENTS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE INFORMATION IN THERE. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL BE THE ONE TO TAKE UP THE OVERHAUL OF OUR PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, BUT I THINK IT IS OKAY OF A PATH THAT WE SHOULD BE ON. I APPRECIATE THIS WORK MAYOR, WILL YOU, I APPRECIATE THIS MINUS I APPRECIATE THIS WORK. AND I, AND I SUPPORT THE INTENT. UM, CAN, CAN WE MAKE THIS CHANGE TO THE SECOND PARAGRAPH YOU'VE IDENTIFIED FOR CONSIDERATIONS, WHICH I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. UH, AND I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING THOSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE UNIVERSE OF THE RELEVANT CONSIDERATIONS THAT STAFF SHOULD CONSIDER, AND I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT WHAT THEY CAN CONSIDER. SO CAN WE SAY THE PROPOSAL SHALL REFLECT RELEVANT CONSIDERATIONS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, AND THEN WE HAVE THE ONES THAT YOU'RE CALLING OUT HERE SPECIFICALLY. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? YES. UM, UH, I'M OKAY WITH CHANGING THE AMENDMENT OR AMENDING MY AMENDMENT TO BE COUNCIL TOBY'S AMENDMENT WITH THE CHANGE THAT I JUST READ INTO IT. UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY [09:40:01] OBJECTIONS TO THAT? OKAY. SO MY AMENDMENT NOW READS LIKE KATHY'S AMENDMENT WITH THAT ADDITIONAL CHANGE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT AMENDMENT AS AMENDED BEING INCLUDED IN THE BASE ITEM? I'LL JUST NOTE AGAIN, MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL, JUST SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME AND NOT BEING ABLE TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME TO GET THIS BACK, UH, JUST, UH, WE WILL DO OUR BEST, BUT SURE KNOW THAT THIS IS FAST TURNAROUND TIME. IF IT NEEDS TO BE LATER, THAT'S FINE TOO. APPRECIATE THAT. UM, MY HOPE IS THAT IT JUST WILL HAPPEN. KEEP GOING, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE NEAR TERM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WITHOUT OBJECTION, THAT AMENDMENT TO THE, THAT AMENDMENT IS INCORPORATED INTO THE BASE MOTION. I MEAN, I WILL SAY CITY MANAGER. I, I LEARNED TODAY THAT YOUR STAFF AT THE CONVENTION CENTER PROVIDED AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL TO ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES LAST WEEK. SO I THINK THEY'VE DONE SOME THINKING ABOUT AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL. MY GET MY INTENT NOW IS THAT THEY SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT SOME REAL NUMBERS WITH THE PARKING ENTERPRISE FOLKS AND THAT IT BE INFORMED BY THAT KIND OF MARKET DATA. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK I DON'T WANNA HARP ON IT. IT'S LATE AND WHATNOT, BUT I DO THINK WE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE, ARE, UM, INSTRUCTIVE FROM THIS THAT I WOULD JUST ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO THINK ABOUT. I THINK WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE PROVIDING INFORMATION TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN THEY'RE DOING THAT. IF, IF YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES, IF YOU WERE BRINGING FORWARD A RESOLUTION, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT STAFF LOBBYING AGAINST IT. UM, AS, AS HAPPENED HERE, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT STAFF SUBMITTING ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS TO YOUR COLLEAGUES. I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE, THAT HAPPENED HERE FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER. AND I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND ALL THE REASONS THAT I, THAT I JUST HOPE. UM, WE DON'T SEE AGAIN, MAYOR TIME. UM, SO I'M, I WILL SUPPORT THIS WITH THE EARLY DEADLINE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO GAVE, BUT THEY DID ACTUALLY GIVE US A PROPOSAL TODAY. WE GOT A MEMO. I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS TODAY. IT WAS POSTED TO TODAY AND IT HAS RECOMMENDED PARKING THAT COULD GO INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY. AND I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE NOT AT THE MINIMUM DOING THAT. UM, AND IF THEY COME TO US BEFORE, THEN MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S, IT'S THAT, WHICH IS AT LEAST A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I, I, I MEAN, AM I MISSING THAT, THAT PROPOSAL'S NOT JUST WHAT'S IN OUR FEE SCHEDULE, RIGHT? IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT. NO. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE WOULD DEAL WITH THAT WILL BE CALL UP ITEM NUMBER 60 IN JUST A SECOND. IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO PASS THIS ITEM 55, AS WE HAVE DRAFTED IT, WE COULD ALSO GO TO NUMBER 60 AND ADOPT THE FEE SCHEDULE AS PROPOSED BY STAFF THIS MORNING, IF WE WANTED TO. OKAY. I'M HAPPY TO, OR WE, OR WE COULD WAIT, IT DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY, BUT, BUT THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE THERE TO BE A TRIGGER THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING. OKAY. SO LET'S CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER 60, JUST A SECOND, WHICH WOULD BE WHETHER WE WANT TO CHANGE THE FEE RIGHT NOW, STAYING JUST A SECOND MORE ON ITEM NUMBER 55. UH, LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON 55 AS AMENDED THOSE IN FAVOR OF 55 AS AMENDED. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED THOSE ABSTAINING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, ELLIS ABSTAINS, THE OTHERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER. KELLY VOTES. NO, THE OTHERS NINE VOTING. YES, THAT IS 9 1 1 ITEM NUMBER 55 PASSES. THAT GETS US TO ITEM NUMBER 60. YES. BOROUGH HARBOR PATERSON. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO PAST 10. YOU KNOW, IT'S A 9 59. I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA GET US THERE. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO GOING PAST 10 SO WE CAN FINISH THIS UP? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'LL BE JUST A FEW MINUTES. ANYBODY OTHER THAN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER AND COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY OBJECTING TO THAT? I WAS JUST WONDERING IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND US TO 10 30. HOW ABOUT 10, 15? 10, 15. LET'S GO. LET'S GO PAST 10. WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE SO CLOSE. WE'RE GONNA FINISH THIS UP. WE CAN SPEND MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT IT THAN IT'LL TAKE TO GET THERE. [60. Approve an ordinance amending Exhibit A to Ordinance No. 20220817-005 (City of Austin Fee and Fine Ordinance for Fiscal Year 2022-2023) to increase certain fees for the Convention Center garages near the Convention Center.] ALL RIGHT. WE ARE HAVING ITEM NUMBER 60 IN FRONT OF US. AND THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO CHANGE THE FEE STRUCK THE PARKING RATE? NOW, IF IT WAS PROPOSED BY STAFF OR DO WE WANNA WAIT UNTIL THE MANAGER COMES BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATION PURSUANT TO 55? WE JUST PASS THAT I THINK IS THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF US COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, AND THE MAYOR PROTE. MY APOLOGIES MAYOR. I WAS TRYING TO SQUEEZE THIS IN BEFORE WE MOVED ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, I WOULD LIKE FOR, TO REQUEST THAT WE TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 90. AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO CHANGE MY VOTE. HAD A QUESTION, AN OUTSTANDING QUESTION. THAT'S BEEN ANSWERED NOW. SO I'D NO LONGER WANNA ABSTAIN FROM 90. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION, COLLEAGUES TO SHOWING COUNCIL MEMBER LET'S UM, LET'S RECONSIDER AND TAKE RETAKE THE VOTE ON NUMBER. [09:45:01] WHAT CAN WE JUST VOTE THIS ONE? OKAY. LET'S CUT BACK TO 90. LET'S FINISH THIS THEN WE'LL DO 90 AND THEN WE'LL DO THE STATE LEGISLATIVE THING. IF PEOPLE WANNA DO THAT, NOW WE COULD ALWAYS POSTPONE THE STATE LEGISLATURE STUFF. DID DATE FOR THIS STATE ALL. SO DID WE SET A DATE FOR THE SPS MEMBER? YES. OKAY. I ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TIME, I WILL MOVE ITEM 60 WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FEES, WHICH GOES INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY, WHICH GIVES THEM TA TIME. IF THEY MAKE A RESPONSIBLE OFFER BEFORE THEM, THAT WE COULD ADOPT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OKAY. THAT'S THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION NOW GONNA PULL SECOND THAT, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THE MOTION IS TO ADOPT THE RATES. THEY GO INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY. CERTAINLY IF YOU COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION, WE COULD CHANGE IT BEFORE JANUARY. I KNOW THERE ARE NOTICE PROVISIONS NOTICES THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO. DOES STAFF WANNA SPEAK TO THAT QUESTION? DOES MO DOES STAFF WANNA SPEAK TO THIS MOTION? GUESS WHAT? TOBO WELL, THEY'RE COMING UP. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY SOMETHING YOU JUST SAID. I MEAN, WE JUST DIRECTED THEM TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL, SO, CORRECT. OKAY. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY STAFF COULD COME BACK. NO, NO, BUT WE HAVE DIRECTED THEM, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I'M UNSURE. SO THE MOTION IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IS TO GO AHEAD AND ADOPT THE RATE STRUCTURE, PARKING RATE STRUCTURE THAT WAS PROPOSED BY STAFF EARLIER TODAY. MM-HMM EVEN WHILE YOU'RE CONTINUING ON WITH THE REVIEW AND THE STUDY TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL MM-HMM, , UH, IT'S EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY. SO CERTAINLY IF YOU CAME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE, WE COULD CHANGE IT. BUT THE QUESTION IS, IN THE MEANTIME, SHOULD WE BE ADOPTING THE SCHEDULE THAT WAS PROPOSED THIS MORNING? STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD TO MOVE, BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT STUDY AND TO GET THAT BACK TO YOU JUST AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADJUSTING RATES BASED ON WHAT THE, UH, DOWNTOWN PARKING RATES ARE. BUT IN ADDITION TO, UH, COMPARING SIMILAR GARAGES THAT OPERATE AS A COM AS OUR CONVENTION CENTER GARAGE DOES IN OTHER CITIES. SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UH, SINCE THE, YOU KNOW, THE DATE, UH, THAT YOU ALL HAVE PROPOSED. UH, SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE NOT TO ADOPT THIS MORNING'S FEE SCHEDULE ON AN INTERIM BASIS, CORRECT. UH, STAFF, UH, PUT FORTH THIS RECOMMENDATION, UM, BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT IS STILL COMPETITIVE WITH OUR MARKET, MEANING THAT WE'RE STILL COMPETITIVE NATIONALLY IN THE MARKET. UM, AND WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE'RE RAISING THE RATES, UM, TO BE COMPARABLE TO THE GARAGES THAT WE'RE IN THE, IN THE AREA THAT WE, UH, THAT WE RESIDE IN. UM, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY THE WILL OF THE DIAS. OKAY. MANAGER. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO MORE JUST, UH, FOR THE RECORD? I MEAN, THIS INFORMATION IS IN BACKUP, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, UM, CLEAR CUZ IT'S NOT AN AMENDMENT NECESSARILY, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN BACKUP AND THAT RATE, I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RATE SPECIFICALLY, BUT, UM, IT IS IN THERE, UM, FOR CLARIFICATION, WHAT IF, IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD? YEAH, YEAH. RODNEY SURE, SURE. MARY COUNCIL, THE CONCERN WITH THE PROPOSAL, UH, IS THAT AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CUSTOMERS THAT ENTER INTO LONG TERM AGREEMENTS WITH US. AND IF THE CONCEPT IS THAT WE ADOPT THIS PROPOSAL FOR A FEW MONTHS, THEN IT BECOMES CONFUSING FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. RIGHT. UM, AND SO IF WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH ANOTHER PROPOSAL WITHIN THREE MONTHS, IT, IT JUST BECOMES MORE CONFUSING. AND UH, IF, IF THIS PROPOSAL WERE ADOPTED, SAY FOR A YEAR, THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR OUR, FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SHORT TIME FRAME, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT IT MIGHT ACTUALLY ENGENDER CONFUSION FOR OUR CUSTOMERS ONLY TO COME BACK WITHIN A SHORT TIMEFRAME WITH THE CHANGE IN THE RATES. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY, UM, WE CAN'T, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL, WHAT WE HAD ENVISIONED WAS THAT THIS WOULD BE A LONG TERM PROPOSAL OF AT LEAST A YEAR. OKAY. NOT JUST A FEW MONTHS. OKAY. MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL TOVA, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST REFLECTING BACK ON SOME OF THE INFORMATION I HAD AND IT, IT, UM, MY STAFF REMINDED ME THAT YOU SOMETIMES HAVE A FLAT RATE FOR EVENINGS AND SO ON THE WEEKENDS, LIKE A $15 FLAT RATE IN THE EVENING. SO THERE, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE CUSTOMERS OF YOUR GARAGE ARE USED TO THE RATES FLUCTUATING AND IT FLUCTUATING. AND SO TO ME, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY YOU OPERATE YOUR GARAGE, THAT THE RATES FLUCTUATE, AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE DIFFERENT RATES DURING THE DAY, THERE ARE DIFFERENT RATES AT NIGHT. IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETIMES THERE ARE FLAT RATES. SO TO ME, UM, I, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR PROTE. I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE WAITING TILL JANUARY, BUT THAT'S, IT DOES GIVE THEM TIME TO COME BACK AND YEAH, THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US IS TO ADOPT, UH, THE INCREASES. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE FAIRLY SMALL. SO IT, IT CERTAINLY MAY BE THAT THE WORK THAT WE JUST AUTHORIZED IS GONNA RESULT IN SOME HIGHER RATES [09:50:01] AND MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER RENT, THE ANYTHING COUNCILING OR KELLY, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS AT ALL. SO, UH, I'M JUST, UH, WANNA LET THE, MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT I'LL BE VOTING NOW. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO DO A VOCAL AMENDMENT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO THE RATES. UM, MY STAFF TOOK A LOOK AT SOME OF THE PARKING GARAGES AROUND THE AREA AND THEN NOTICED A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCONSISTENCY WITH THE RATES THAT WERE PROPOSED VERSUS THE, THE RATES THAT ADDED UP AND TOTALED WITH WHAT WE HAD. AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF I MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT REAL QUICK TO VOTE ON AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE MAYOR PRO TIM'S MOTION TO ADOPT THIS MORNING'S RACE STRUCTURE THE LAST TIME. CORRECT. OKAY. SO, UM, FOR ZERO TO 30 MINUTES, THERE'S A RACE PERIOD FOR 30 MINUTES, ONE TO ONE HOUR IT'S $5. ONE HOUR TO TWO HOURS IS $10. TWO HOURS TO THREE HOURS IS $12, THREE HOURS TO FOUR HOURS IS $15, FOUR HOURS TO NINE HOURS IS $19 AND NINE HOURS TO 24 HOURS IS $29. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND TO THIS MOTION? COUNCIL MEMBER WENT TO SECONDS THAT MOTION WANNA SPEAK TO IT? I WOULD, UM, MY STAFF JUST TOOK A LOOK AT ALL OF THE GARAGES AROUND THE AREA. AND ONE OF OUR CONCERNS WAS THAT IF WE RAISE OUR RATES, UM, THEN OTHER GARAGES MIGHT ALSO RAISE THE RATES. AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF, IF STAFF HAD ANY FEEDBACK FOR THAT PARTICULAR PART OR ANY FEEDBACK IN GENERAL ABOUT THE RATES THAT I PROPOSED VERSUS THE RATES THAT ARE IN THE, THE PROPOSAL BEFORE US, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THOUGHTFULNESS OF YOUR STAFF AND REALLY, UH, TO, TO PULL THOSE TO THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER. I THINK WE, WE WOULD NEED SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND RUN THE ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE. OKAY, THANK YOU. I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST, UH, ALL THESE JUST CUZ I DON'T HAVE A BASIS TO DECIDE BETWEEN, UH, COUNCIL KELLY'S MOTION, THE ONE THAT CAME FROM THE STAFF THIS MORNING, UH, AND I'M COMFORTABLE SINCE STAFF'S GONNA COME BACK REALLY QUICKLY HERE WITH A NUMBERS THAT I COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FOR ME OF WHY I WAS VOTING FOR WHICH NUMBERS. SO I'M GONNA VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT AND I'M GONNA VOTE NO ON PASSING ANYTHING, UH, ON ITEM, NUMBER 60, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, TO THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS. THANK YOU MAYOR. YEAH. I'M I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS. I KNOW. UM, I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS OF AN ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENT, THAT WE'RE TRUSTING THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE BEING GIVEN AND THAT WE HAVE TIME TO ABSORB IT. AND SO I KNOW THAT THIS STARTED OUT OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THINGS LIKE, UM, ENTRANCE FEES AND INTO OUR PUBLIC PARK SPACES AS WELL. AND I JUST THINK WE, IF, IF WE ARE GOING TO BE DECIDING THIS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT WHO'S GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF THAT IS ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND I, UM, JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. SORRY. I'M OUTTA WORDS. THAT'S OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S, UH, AMENDMENT STATE OF VOTE. THOSE ARE YOUR FAVOR COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S AMENDMENT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY COUNCIL MEMBER. TOVO THOSE TWO, THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. IT IS THE BALANCE OF THE DIES THAT AMENDMENT FAILS. UM, THERE IS THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US, THE MAYOR PRO TIM'S MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 60. SO BE FOR THE WHAT? OH, I'M SORRY. UM, NO, NO, BUT I, I, I NEED TO SLOW DOWN. SO I'M CALLING THE VOTES BETTER AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. UM, PAYS THE RECORD TO VOTE THE COUNCILMAN PULL ABSTAINED ON THAT ONE STILL, UH, UH, DID NOT PASS. UH, WE ARE NOW LOOKING WITH ITEM NUMBER 60 IN FRONT OF US FROM THE MOTION FROM THE MAYOR PRO TAB, TAKE A VOTE, VOTE IN FAVOR OF, UH, THAT MOTION. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THE MAYOR PRO TA COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO COUNCIL MEMBER POOL. THOSE OPPOSED. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. HOW ARE YOU VOTING CONSERV? OKAY. IT IS EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE DIAS THAT DOES NOT PASS. THE ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT IN. NO, THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER [90. Approve a resolution relating to the development of a regulating plan for the South Central Waterfront District. (Part 2 of 2)] THE VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 90 ON ITEM NUMBER 90. THE VOTE BEFORE WAS 703, THERE WERE SEVEN VOTES IN FAVOR. THERE WAS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY VOTED AGAINST COUNCIL MEMBERS. TOVO ALTER AND HARPER, MADISON, UH, ABSTAINED. UH, I MAKE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO RECONSIDERING HEARING NONE FROM THE DIAS WE'RE GOING TO RECONSIDER, UH, [09:55:01] THAT ITEM AND RETAKE OUR VOTE ITEM. NUMBER 90, THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UM, THOSE OPPOSED COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY, THOSE ABSTAINING COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO AND ALTER AB THE MAYOR PRO TAM AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO ABSTAIN COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY VOTES. NO, THE OTHER EIGHT VOTING. YES. ITEM NUMBER 90 PASSES, UH, WITH, UH, EIGHT AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. THE ONLY THING LEFT [26. Approve a resolution adopting the City’s State Legislative Agenda for the 88th Texas Legislative Session.] IN FRONT OF US COLLEAGUES IS THE, UH, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. DO WE WANNA, UH, AMEND THOSE TODAY? YES. OKAY. UM, POINT OF ORDER. UM, YES. DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE TO GO PAST 10 O'CLOCK WE DID. WE DID. WE DID. WE DID. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE DID AND I, AND I'M TRYING TO GET US THERE BEFORE WE GET TO 10 15, IF I CAN. ALL RIGHT. DOES SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE, UH, AN AMENDMENT? AND IN ADDITION TO THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, YOU GUYS WANNA KELLY? UM, THIS MORNING, I, I DID PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LAY IT OUT OR TO SAY IT BEFORE? I EXPLAIN WHY? WHY DON'T YOU SAY IT AND LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY OBJECTION. OKAY. I MOVED TO AMEND THE CITY OF AUSTIN LEGISLATIVE AGENDA TO SUPPORT STATEWIDE LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS GOVERNMENTS TO REDACT THE HOME ADDRESSES OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE POSSESSION OF THE MUNICIPALITY WHEN REQUESTED FOR A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST. OKAY. UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT? UH, AMENDMENT? UH, OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT AMENDMENT IT'S TO, UH, REDACT, UH, UH, ADDRESSES IN, IN PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST, UH, INFORMATION SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, ALICE DISCUSSION. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. UM, SO IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE WAS A VERY LARGE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST THAT WENT OUT WITH OVER 60,000, UM, INDIVIDUALS HOME ADDRESSES WHO HAD WRITTEN TO US IN EMAILS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST AN ITEM. UM, AND SO THINKING ABOUT THAT AND HOW SOME OF US, UM, HAVE EXPERIENCED INDIVIDUALS VISITING OUR HOMES, I JUST WANTED TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OUR CITY AND LIKE TO WRITE TO US ABOUT THEIR OPINION AND NOT HAVE THEIR HOME ADDRESS RELEASED. THANK YOU. OKAY. FURTHER DISCUSSION I ITEM COUNCIL POOL. YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS, UM, OPPOSITION TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH OUR OPEN RECORDS, OPEN GOVERNMENT, ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, UM, ADVOCATES LIKE, UM, AND I'M GUESSING HERE, CAUSE I, I HAVEN'T SPENT ANY TIME, BUT MAYBE THE A C L U FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THIS IS A, A, UH, A CONCERN THAT I HAVE, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE SHOWN AS VOTING FOR THIS ITEM TO TAKE IT UP TO THE LEGISLATURE. I, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WOULD PASS AT THE LEGISLATURE. AND, UH, AND SO I WANTED TO REGISTER MY OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM, WHICH IS WHY I'M GLAD WE ARE BRINGING IT UP AND NOT JUST HAVING IT ON CONSENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, CAD HARPER, MADISON, UM, I SUPPORT THE ITEM AND I SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS NOT COMING TO OUR HOUSES. I, I THINK IT'S AN ANOMALY THAT, SO TOM MADISON IS A FIREFIGHTER AND QUALIFIES FOR THE TCAD HOME ADDRESS, UM, UH, ANONYMITY CLAUSE, UM, BUT COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T. UM, SO I THINK IT'S AWKWARD AND BIZARRE, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL TO COUNCIL MEMBER POOL'S POINT. I THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL. I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE ANY ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS FOR AUSTIN POLICY MAKERS, BUT I'LL SUPPORT IT CUZ I, I DO THINK THERE SHOULD BE OKAY. YES. NOW I, I WAS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, TRYING TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO MY AMENDMENT, WE COULD INCLUDE OUR OURSELVES AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE MAKING REFERENCE TO US, BUT THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK THIS WILL PASS AND I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE THAT OBJECTS TO IT. I WOULD ASK THAT OUR LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS OFFICE GIVE US A BRIEFING LEGISLATIVE BRIEFING ON THE CONCERNS THAT, UH, BRIEF FRANCO HAD, UM, REGISTERED WITH ME SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS ITEM. IS SHE HERE? OH, BREE. YOU ARE THERE. MM-HMM I GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UM, YOU WANNA ASK ME THE QUESTION AGAIN? I THINK I HAVE HEARD IT, UH, AND I WAS NOT EXPECTING YOU TO BE ON, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UM, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN, UH, IF YOU COULD JUST LAY OUT THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAD RAISED WITH ME EARLIER TODAY ABOUT, UH, THIS AMENDMENT TO OUR LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE AND I, THAT THERE COULD BE, THERE DEFINITELY WILL BE OPPOSITION AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, TO THESE TYPES OF ITEMS FROM GROUPS LIKE YOU ALREADY MENTIONED, LIKE THE, A C L U THE MEDIA, THE PRESS, AS WELL AS WATCHDOG ADVOCATES. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I BELIEVE [10:00:01] PAUL S HAS SPOKEN TO BEFORE AT, TO THIS COUNCIL RELATED TO SIMILAR ISSUES ON THE AUSTIN WATER UTILITY LEGISLATION THAT PASSED. UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO ADDING THIS TO THE, UM, THAT WAS THE ONLY ISSUE I WANTED THE ONLY, UH, OPPOSITION. THOSE ARE THE OPPOSITION WE'LL POTENTIALLY FACE, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE WILL OF THE DIAS. SO MAY, MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YEAH. CUSTOMER KITCHEN. SO, UH, BRI, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING WE'RE TALKING. SO, SO YOU'RE REACTING TO A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, LEGISLATION THAT WOULD, UH, EXEMPT THE PUBLIC. IN OTHER WORDS, INDIVIDUALS THAT WRITE THEIR PERSONAL HOME ADDRESSES, NOT BEING RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. YOU THINK THEY'D BE OPPOSITION TO THAT? THE WELL YOU, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU GUYS AREN'T SURPRISED AT GROUPS LIKE THE ACL AND THE MEDIA AND THE PRESS TAKE, UM, OPPOSITION TO ANY, UH, FURTHER LIMITATIONS ON THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. THAT'S PART THAT'S GENERALLY THEIR STANCE IS TO NOT LIMIT THAT FURTHER. UM, AND THEN I ONLY ALSO BRING FOR THIS COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, CUZ I'VE BEEN ASKED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN MR. ROBBINS RAISED THE ISSUES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE LEGISLATION ABOUT THE AUSTIN WATER UTILITY, UM, DATA FROM LAST SESSION. UM, AND THIS MIGHT BE SIM THERE MIGHT BE SIMILAR WATCHDOG ADVOCATES IN ADDITION TO THOSE GROUPS I ALREADY NAMED WHO WOULD HAVE CONCERNS. OKAY. BUT GENERALLY THOSE GROUPS ALWAYS OPPOSE FOR LIMITING THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. OKAY. THANK THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. I JUST, AND, AND YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REDACTING NAMES, YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT REDACTING PERSONAL ADDRESSES. YEAH. UM, I GUESS WHEN I LOOK AT THIS CONCEPTUALLY, I, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE GET EMAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS, THEY PUT IN THEIR ADDRESS AND IT AUTO POPULATES INTO OUR EMAIL WHAT DISTRICT THEY'RE FROM. YEAH. AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ADDRESS ITSELF. MY, I MEAN, OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. THE DIFFICULTY BE, THIS IS, I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THIS ISSUE. UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE HAVE A ZONING CASE, UH, AND, UH, THERE'S A RAFT OF EMAILS ALL COMING FROM A SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE MEDIA'S GONNA WANT TO KNOW THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CAME OUT IN FORCE ON THAT ITEM. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A LARGER ISSUE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, UH, CITYWIDE AND, AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE OPPOSITION OR THE SUPPORT CAME FROM TO CHECK AND SEE IF THERE'S A SPECIAL INTEREST THERE OR, OR SOMETHING. I, I JUST DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IF THIS WAS, UH, A PARTICULAR INTEREST TO, TO COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, KELLY IS TO SET IT FOR A WORK SESSION BRIEFING OR TO ASK THE STAFF TO, UH, RESEARCH THAT ISSUE. AND THEN TO GIVE US A NOTE OR A MEMO ON IT AND ARMED WITH THAT, THEN I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER IDEA ABOUT WHETHER TO INCLUDE IT OR NOT. I JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT TO KNOW FAIR. SO I, SO I WOULD VOTE, NO, BUT I, ON PUTTING IT IN THE AGENDA, I WOULD VOTE YES. UH, WITH A DIRECTION TO STAFF TO RESEARCH THAT QUESTION AND REPORT BACK TO, TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I COULD REQUEST NOW TO HAVE IT AT OUR NEXT WORK SESSION? BECAUSE, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD DO WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S ADDRESSES REALLY SCARE ME. UM, AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE OPEN RECORDS, DATA TO ENGAGE IN THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR. AND SO I'D LIKE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT IT, BUT A WORK SESSION WOULD BE WORK SESSION OR EVEN A WRITTEN MEMO, UH, COMING BACK. BUT WITHIN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, COUPLE WEEKS HERE OR SO THREE WEEKS, COULD YOU REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON THAT ISSUE WILL DO. OKAY. UH, THEN LET'S MOVE ON IF THAT'S OKAY. UH, IS THERE, UH, ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO BE OFFERED TO THE LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, THE AMENDMENT READS IN THE WATER WASTE WATER ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY SECTION. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT AND INCREASED USAGE OF ALTERNATIVE BUILDING MATERIALS IN BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC CONSTRUCTION. AND OKAY. IS THERE A, I'M SORRY. NOPE. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT BEING INCLUDED LEGISLATIVE AGENDA? IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT BEING INCLUDED IN THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA? HEARING NONE? WE'VE WELL, WE'VE ADDED THAT TO, UH, THE, THE AGENDA. AWESOME. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS, UM, IN HEALTH AND PROSPERITY SECTION SUPPORT LEGISLATION AND FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS THAT WOULD INCREASE ACCESS AND RESOURCES FOR SOBRIETY AND RECOVERY RESOURCES FOR YOUTH. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT BEING ADDED TO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, HEARING NONE THAT'S ADDED AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER AMENDMENTS TO THE [10:05:01] LEGISLATIVE AGENDA? NONE. WE READY TO VOTE ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. THOSE IN FAVOR, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED. OH, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY IS A NO, THE OTHERS VOTING. I, IT PASSES 10 TO ONE. AND WITH THAT AT, UH, 10 22, UH, THIS MEETING, UH, IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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