* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] ORDER. I'VE GOT 6 0 3, [CALL TO ORDER] AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD IS CALLED ORDER, UM, SEPTEMBER 26TH. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND, UM, FIRST ORDER BUSINESS CALL ROLL. RIGHT? OKAY. UM, VICE CHAIR FAST HERE. UM, BOARD MEMBER ALDI. UH, BOARD MEMBER DECARLO HERE. BOARD MEMBER MOORE. BOARD MEMBER FLOWERS. BOARD MEMBER HOMAN HERE. BOARD MEMBER BERNARD HERE. BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR. SHE MAY BE LATE. BOARD MEMBER LEWIS HERE. THANK YOU. AND BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA HERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. AND I SEE BOARD MEMBER MORE COMING IN, SO HE IS PRESENT TOO. OKAY. UM, [PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL] THE FIRST THING WE ARE GOING TO DO IS HAVE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS. I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO VICE CHAIR FAUST. THANK YOU. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MIKE LEVY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M MIKE LEVY. I'VE BEEN IN ALL SINCE, SINCE 69, BEEN INVOLVED IN PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES SINCE 76 WHEN THREE DOCTORS AND I GOT AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY EMS GOING, UH, TWO QUICK THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IN CRIME, PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT IN A COMMUNITY. BE SAFE, FE FEEL SAFE. UH, INCREASING NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO SIMPLY DON'T FEEL SAFE GOING INTO OUR PARKS. YOUR PARKS. MY PARKS. OUR PARKS. UH, I THINK YOU KNOW THAT A P D, UH, IS DOWN FROM 1800 TO 1500, HEADED TOWARD 1100 COPS. THEY GOT RID OF THE PARKS UNIT. UM, UH, I GUY, I WOULDN'T BE ON A, IN ONE OF THE PARKS, SOME TWO, UH, GAVE YOU STUFF ON SCOOTERS. UH, WE USED TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL PARKS. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO THINK OUR PARKS ARE BEAUTIFUL WITH SCOOTERS LYING EVERYWHERE. THEY'RE DANGEROUS TO, UH, EVERYBODY TRIPPING. BUT ESPECIALLY, UH, FOLKS WHO ARE MOBILITY IMPAIRED. UH, YOU SEE IT DOWNTOWN WHERE FOLKS CAN'T GET AROUND WITH, UH, WITH MY CHAIRS OR WITH THEIR WALKERS AND SO FORTH. YOU GUYS WORK FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS OR APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I ASK YOU TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT A, UH, SAFETY IN PARKS, GREATER POLICE PRESENCE. COPS DON'T WANT TO, UH, ARREST PEOPLE PRIMARILY WANT TO DETER A CRIME. THE BEST INSURANCE FOR CRIME IS VISIBILITY. UH, AND, UH, I THINK THAT AS GOVERNMENTS TEND TO BE MORE REACTIVE THAN PROACTIVE, UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE GONNA SEE A A, A GOVERNMENT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE, UH, REACTIVE IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING TO HAVE GREATER POLICE VI VISIBILITY IN OUR PARKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CLAIRE KREBS. HI THERE. UM, I'M CLAIRE KREBS. I'M PART OF THE FESTIVAL BEACH COMMUNITY GARDEN LEADERSHIP. I'M A VOLUNTEER JUST LIKE Y'ALL. UM, GARDENERS AND OTHERS EMAILED YOU THIS WEEK AND LAST ASKING THAT TWO ISSUES, UH, A BOUNDARY DISPUTE AND FOX HABITAT BE ADDED TO THE BOARD'S OCTOBER AGENDA. I'M HERE TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THOSE ASKS. FIRST I WANNA TALK ABOUT OUR SPACE. SO WE'RE TWO ACRES OF PARKLAND. THAT'S A MILE EAST OF HERE, JUST ACROSS 35. AND IF WE CONSIDERED THE ROOM, THE GARDEN, THIS ROOM, OUR GARDEN WITH, UH, YOU LOOKING SOUTH. ON OUR WEST, WE HAVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE, AND YOU CAN SEE DOWNTOWN DURING THE SUNRISE. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. UM, INSIDE WE HAVE 80 INDIVIDUAL PLOTS, BUT IT'S A GARDEN WHERE WE DO A LOT OF COMMUNAL WORK TOO. SO WE HAVE GRAPES ON OUR DOWNTOWN FENCE LINE THAT WE MAKE IT TO JAM AND WE SHARE WITH EVERYONE. UM, BUT I'M HERE TO HIT TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE EASTERN BOUNDARY THAT IS THE CENTER OF OUR TWO ASKS. UH, THE RBJ CENTER ANCHORS ARE SOUTHEAST END, AND WE HOST ABOUT A DOZEN RESIDENTS. OUR ELDERS WHO GARDEN IN THAT AREA OVER IN THE SOUTHEAST, AND ALMOST ALL, ONLY ALL OF THEM ONLY SPEAK MANDARIN EVERY DAY. THEY WATER, THEY TEND, THEY GROW FOOD FOR, UM, THEMSELVES AND THE OTHER SENIORS, AND WE HELP WITH THAT. UM, OUR SHARED AREAS CONTINUE UP ALONG THIS EASTERN FENCE LINE. FROM THERE, WE'VE GOT HERB GARDENS, AND THEN IN THE FAR CORNER, WE, UH, LEAVE A LITTLE BIT WILD, UH, AS PART OF A CORRIDOR THAT WE, WE LET, THAT LETS OUR GARDEN FOXES USE THAT AREA, UM, AS THEY LIVE IN A DOWNT TREE. JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE, UH, [00:05:01] IN HATCHERY PARK. AND PASOS IS THE MAMA FOX. UH, WE CALL HER THAT FOR THE MANY STATE STEPS SHE'S TAKEN TO FIND A HOME. AND I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN HELP HER STAY THERE. UM, YOU SEE, SHE USED TO LIVE ON THE WOODLANDS THAT WERE ALONG THE EASTERN FENCE LINE. THOSE WOODS ARE GONE. UM, MO MARK AND SOUTHWEST STRATEGIES ARE LEADING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT LAND. AND, UM, THERE ARE ALREADY APARTMENTS. THERE'S A LOT BEHIND OUR SHARED AREAS OVER HERE THAT WILL BE COMMERCIAL SOON. BUT HATCHERY PARK WILL REMAIN PUBLIC. UM, IT'LL BE ALLOWED DEEDED BY EASEMENT FROM THE DEVELOPER DEVELOPER. AND WE KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS DISCRETION WHEN MANAGING THAT AREA. THEY TOLD US AS MUCH, UH, WHEN WE ASKED EARLIER IN THE YEAR, THEY AND PART COULD AGREE TO PRESERVE THIS LITTLE THICKET WHERE THE FOX LIVES. BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP TO HELP LIFT OUR VOICES, THE VOICES OF THE PUBLIC TO ALLOW THIS DISCUSSION TO HAPPEN, TO LET US SHOWCASE THE DESIGNS AND THE EXPERT ADVICE WE'VE GATHERED ON HOW PASOS AND OUR FAMILY CAN COEXIST WITH US. SO WE ASK THAT TO BE ADDED TO THE OCTOBER AGENDA. THERE'S ALSO A BOUNDARY DISPUTE, AND I HEAR PART IS ALREADY AT WORK. UM, BUT THERE'S, UM, SOME DEEPER CONTEXT TO THE BOUNDARY DISPUTE WHERE THE DEVELOPER IS ENCROACHING ON OUR PROPERTY AREA. UH, IN 2019, THE AREA WHERE OUR ELDERS GARDEN, THAT FENCE LINE WAS, WAS TORN DOWN, AND WE THOUGHT THAT THAT FENCE LINE WAS RESOLVED. THE BO THE, THE DEVELOPERS SAID THAT THE PROPERTY LINE WAS NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE. AND SO WE ASKED THAT YOU GUYS LOOK INTO THE ISSUE, RESOLVE THE, THIS BOUNDARY, UM, DISPUTE ON THE EAST SIDE HERE SO THAT WE CAN GET BACK TO GARDENING. UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TRAUMA THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN 2019 WHEN THE, WHEN THE FENCE ON THIS EAST PORTION WHERE OUR SENIORS ARE, UM, HAD THAT TORN DOWN, THEIR, THEIR PLANTS HAD WERE REMOVED. UM, THESE SCRUBS. CAN YOU CONCLUDE THIS LITTLE NOTICE? YES. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. UM, BUT WE'VE EMAILED YOU GUYS WITH THOSE TWO ASKS, AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR, UH, UH, HELP WITH THESE ISSUES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PAUL DE FURY. . HI. GOOD EVENING, Y'ALL. UM, MY NAME IS PAUL DE FURE. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN, AND I'M CURRENTLY A LAW STUDENT AT UT. FIRST, LET ME SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY. UH, YOUR TIME AND ENERGY ON THESE ISSUES IS INVALUABLE AND IT SHOULD NOT GO UNRECOGNIZED. UH, SO BEFORE I ENTERED LAW SCHOOL, UH, THE GOOD OLD DAYS, I LIKE TO SAY I WAS WORKING AS AN ADVOCATE, UH, FOR PODER AND SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE. TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT I KNOW ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE EFFORT THAT CLAIRE JUST BROUGHT UP TO PROTECT PUBLIC PARK LAND, UH, FROM ENCROACHMENTS, BIG OR SMALL FROM DEVELOPMENT AND OF EFFORTS GENERALLY TO KEEP AUSTIN'S WILD SPACES WILD. UH, SO I'M REALLY JUST HERE TONIGHT TO ECHO CLAIRE'S COMMENTS AND, UH, REITERATE HER REQUEST THAT Y'ALL PLEASE ADD A DISCUSSION ABOUT HATCHERY PARK TO YOUR OCTOBER MEETING AGENDA. AND THEN WHEN YOU CONSIDER IT THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE TO ADVISE THE CITY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, UH, IN THIS CASE, NOT TO UNNECESSARILY CLEAR THE LITTLE THICK AT AKA PASOS THE FOX'S HOME, UH, BEFORE TRANSFERRING THAT LAND TO THE CITY. AND THEN WHEN THE CITY PLANS HATCH PARK, IT SHOULD PRESERVE THE LITTLE THICKET HABITAT. CLAIRE HAS SOME GREAT DESIGNS FOR HOW THIS COULD WORK. UH, IT'S NOT A BIG ASK, BUT IT SURE WOULD MEAN A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY GARDENERS. THEY'RE HUMAN NEIGHBORS, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, THEY'RE NON-HUMAN NEIGHBORS, WHOM WE OFTEN LEAVE OUT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS. BUT WE SHOULDN'T. NOT ONLY SHOULD THEY MERIT CONSIDERATION ON THEIR OWN, THEY ARE LIVING BEINGS, BUT ALSO WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM AFFECTS US IN THE END LIVES OR DEATHS OF AUSTIN'S ZERN WILDLIFE, IT'S FLORA AND FAUNA, FROM BIRD COLLISIONS ON WINDOWS TO TREES GETTING CUT DOWN ARE FUNDAMENTALLY CONNECTED TO OUR OWN. THIS IS ANCIENT WISDOM THAT WE'RE FINALLY GETTING AROUND TO REMEMBERING IN 2022. WE HAVE A REAL STAKE IN BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS TO FOXES AS MUCH AS BUTTERFLIES AND BEES. THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. AND SINCE Y'ALL HAVE A ROLE, UH, IN ENSURING THAT PAR IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT PUBLIC INTEREST AND NOT COWTOWING, EVEN IN SMALL WAYS TO PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, WE ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER PASO'S CASE AND MAKE SURE THE CITY DOES EVERYTHING IN ITS POWER TO PROTECT HATCHERY PARK FOR ALL AUSTINITES, INCLUDING THOSE THAT DON'T WALK ON TWO LEGS. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S ALL. OH, NO, SORRY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LIZ HUNLEY. OKAY. SO THERE'S TWO PEOPLE ON THIS PAGE. ARE THERE TWO SPEAK? I'M JUST GONNA SHARE THE THREE MINUTES. YOU'RE GONNA SHARE THE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. LIZ HUNLEY AND, UM, AUBREY. AUBREY. AUBREY RUDDER. THANK YOU. UM, GOOD EVENING. I'M LIZ HANLEY. I'M AUBREY RUDDER. AND WE ARE, AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE AUSTIN ROWING [00:10:01] CLUB. UM, I CAME TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR DEDICATION, YOUR PARTNERSHIP, YOUR PATIENCE, UM, TO HELP US PASS THE ORDINANCE, WHICH THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL HAS DONE, UH, MOVING THE AUSTIN ROWING CLUB AND OUR OUTREACH FACILITIES DOWN THE RIVER, UM, TO COME. BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT NEXT STEP, I WENT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THIS STEP. IT WAS REALLY APPRECIATED THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DID. UM, NOT JUST ON OUR BEHALF, BUT IN AUSTIN'S BEHALF ON WHAT AUSTIN OFFERS TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE POA THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARD TO BE A BETTER PARTNER TO YOU AND NOT JUST A VENDOR RELATIONSHIP. UM, I THINK THAT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE, UM, ABILITY FOR, UM, NONPROFITS AND OTHERS HERE IN AUSTIN TO WORK WITH YOU MORE PERSONALLY, UM, IT'S GREAT. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO KIND OF DESIGNING THAT AND REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT DESIGNING AND, UM, WORKING WITH NONPROFITS THAT WANT TO, UM, BRING MORE RESOURCES AND OUTREACH TO THE SIDE AS WELL AS TO ALL OF AUSTIN. UM, FOR US, WE ARE FROM ALL OVER AUSTIN. WE HAVE 350 MEMBERS THAT LIVE IN EVERY DISTRICT IN THIS TOWN, BUT IT ALSO IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE EAST SIDE THAT, UM, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DESIGN. SO I WANTED TO PERSONALLY SAY THANK YOU, UM, AS WELL AS KEVIN RAINES, IF HE WERE HERE, WOULD SAY THANK YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE SLAVED WITH HIM FOR A COUPLE YEARS, TRYING TO GET THAT DONE. UM, JUST AS AN UPDATE, SHE HAS A LITTLE BIT. UM, YESTERDAY WE HAD OUR OUTDOOR HEALTH AND WELL, UM, WELLNESS FESTIVAL WITH THE VA. AND IT WAS, UM, TO SUPPORT OUR VETERANS. WE WORKED WITH THE AUSTIN VA CENTER, AMERICAN FOUNDATION FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION, TRAVIS COUNTY HEALTH AND, AND HUMAN SERVICES, LOCKED ARMS FOR LIFE AND THE NATIONAL GUARD TO, UM, HAVE A DAY OF SUICIDE PREVENTION WEEK SUPPORT, LOTS OF TENTS, LOTS OF RESOURCES, LOTS OF ON THE WATER, OFF THE WATER. UM, IT WAS A REALLY GREAT DAY. IT'S OUR SECOND YEAR TO DO IT, AND THEY WERE VERY PLEASED, UM, WITH THE DAY. SO I'LL LET AUBREY GIVE YOU A, AN UPDATE. SO, SO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING RECENTLY IS, UH, HOSTING WEEKLY TRASH CLEANUPS. UH, WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING UP WITH LOCAL, UH, UT AUSTIN CLUBS AND ORGANIZATIONS WHERE THEY'VE BEEN COMING OUT AND PICKING UP TRASH. UH, LAST WEEK WE PICKED UP A LITTLE OVER 50 BAGS OF GARBAGE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING DOING SO. UH, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN PARTNERING UP WITH THE PHOENIX. THEY ARE A NATIONAL SOBER ACTIVITY COMMUNITY GROUP, UM, WHERE WE PROVIDE THEM WITH KAYAK AND PADDLE BOARD RENTALS WEEKLY. AND YEAH, THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN FOR ALL THAT YOU GUYS DO FOR OUR PARKS AS WELL AS THE SUPPORT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. AM I CORRECT, TIM? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] GO ON. UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. DO I HAVE ANY, ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MINUTES OR ANY, ANY MOTIONS ABOUT THE MINUTES? MOTION APPROVED MINUTES BOARD MEMBER, UH, MORE OR MOTIONS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? DO I HAVE A SECOND BOARD MEMBER, BERNARD? SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? AND THEN THEN ABSTAIN. AN ABSTENTION. OKAY, GREAT. DID YOU GET ALL THAT, TIM? OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVED. UM, I THOUGHT THE STAFF BRIEFING WAS MOVED TO THE END. AM I, OH, I'M LOOKING AT LAST WEEK. . OH MY GOSH. I HAVE TOO MANY MINUTES IN FRONT OF ME. OKAY. SORRY. THE AGENDA DISCUSSION ITEM. [2. Presentation and discussion regarding concerns for available parks and locations for community services in Districts 3 and 9.] ALL RIGHT. FOR THE FIRST, UH, DISCUSSION ITEM, IT IS ITEM TWO, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING CONCERNS FOR AVAILABLE PARKS AND LOCATIONS FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES AND DISTRICTS THREE AND NINE. UM, THE PRESENTERS ARE MALCOLM YATES, AND I THINK FRED DERKIN IS NOT HERE, BUT ED MILLER FROM OUR HOUSE IS PERFECT. MY NAME IS MALCOLM YATES. I'M THE CHAIR OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE OLD TOF COMBINED CONTACT TEAM. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE PARKS BOARD TODAY. I'M HERE TO TODAY TO REMIND THE PARKS BOARD ABOUT THE NEED FOR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA IS PARK PLANNING AREA 12. THIS PARK PLANNING AREA IS MAINLY DESIGNATED PARKLAND DEFICIENT. THE CITY RECENTLY REMOVED TWO LAKE SHORE PARKS FROM THIS PARKLAND DEFICIENT AREA. THE PAR MAINTENANCE FACILITY ON LAKESHORE AND THE FORMER YOUTH HOST WERE BOTH GIVEN TO PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS. [00:15:01] THE IRAQ CONTACT TEAM WAS NOT ADEQUATELY NOTIFIED ABOUT THESE CHANGES IN PARK PROPERTIES. NEXT WE WILL LOOK AT THE PARKS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE NEWEST PARK EDITION IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA, THE ROYAL CREST POCKET PARK. THIS LAND WAS DEDICATED AS PARK IN 2021 FOR ONE OF THE NEW APARTMENT BUILDINGS BEING BUILT ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE. NOTE THE STRANGE SHAPE OF THE PARK. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE ROYAL CREST POCKET PARK. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE ABUSE OF THE DEFINITION OF A PARK. DEVELOPERS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO CLAIM CONVOLUTED SHAPES AS RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. THIS IS THE WOODLAND POCKET PARK AT WOODLAND AND ROYAL CREST ALSO ACQUIRED IN 2021. THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL LOT OF ONE THIRD OF AN ACRE. THIS IS THE STREET VIEW OF THE WOODLAND POCKET PARK. THIS PARK WAS FUNDED BY THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING BUILT AT ROYAL CREST AND RIVERSIDE. THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS A SIX STORY BUILDING WITH OVER 100 APARTMENTS. THE WOODLAND PARK AND THE ROYAL CREST PARK ARE BOTH TO SERVE THE RECREATIONAL NEEDS OF THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS OF THE CURRENT AND NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES ALONG ROYAL CREST AND EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE. THE TWO SMALL SQUARES IN THESE SERIAL PHOTO AERIAL PHOTOS SHOW THESE PARKS. THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE NEW FOUR STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING BUILT AT WILLOW AND RIVERSIDE. THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT FUNDED THE HOLLY SHORES AT TOWN LAKE PARK. THIS PARK IS NORTH OF LADYBIRD LAKE AND IS NOT WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. THIS IS RIVERSIDE AREA IS ALREADY THE DENSEST AREA OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, AND IT IS BECOMING EVEN MORE DENSE. THE STRIPED AREAS ON THIS MAP ARE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND THE BROWN AREAS ARE THE RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN AREA, WHICH ALLOWS EVEN HIGHER DENSITIES THAN THE CURRENT MULTIFAMILY ZONING. THE TWO NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES I HAVE JUST SHOWN THIS BOARD ARE EXAMPLES OF THE FUTURE OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR REGULATING PLAN WILL ALLOW BUILDINGS OF UP TO 120 FEET IN HEIGHT IN TRANSIT HUB AREAS. ON THIS MAP, THE AREAS IN BROWN ARE WITHIN THE TRANSIT HUBS. NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE PARKS BOARD A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. THIS MAP SHOWS THE INCOME DISTRIBUTION IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA, WHICH HAS THE LOWEST INCOME DISTRIBUTION IN THE CITY. BETWEEN 80 TO 90% OF THE EAST RESIDENTS OF EAST RIVERSIDE AREA RENT A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE POPULATION CONSISTS OF IMMIGRANTS. THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF LENDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL GIVE THE MOST ACCURATE SNAPSHOT OF THE AREA POPULATION, 78% HISPANIC, 63% ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE, 91% ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED. NOT ONLY IS THE RIVERSIDE AREA LACKING PARKS, BUT THERE IS ALSO NO COMMUNITY CENTER. THIS LACK OF A COMMUNITY CENTER IMPACTS THE DISTRIBUTION OF NEEDED SOCIAL SERVICES. ONE EXAMPLE IS THE RIVERSIDE TOGETHERNESS PROJECT. THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA IS CONSIDERED THE HIGHEST CRIME AREA IN THE CITY AND WAS CHOSEN FOR A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GRANT TO FUND THE RIVERSIDE TOGETHERNESS PROJECT. THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO REDUCE CRIME IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA THROUGH COMMUNITY BASED POLICING. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN HAMPERED BY THE LACK OF A PLACE TO MEET. THERE ARE NO PUBLIC BUILDINGS IN THE TARGET AREA WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN MEET. MANY OTHER COMMUNITY SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THAT OPERATE IN THIS AREA HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. FOR YEARS, THE EAST RIVERSIDE COMMUNITY RELIED ON CHURCHES AS [00:20:01] CIVIC MEETING PLACES. THE LAST CHURCH TO CLOSE IN THIS AREA WAS THE PARKER LANE METHODIST CHURCH. IN 2019, MANY CIVIC AND SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS USE THIS CHURCH FOR THEIR OFFICES. ED MILLER WITH OUR HOUSE WILL SPEAK NEXT ON THE COMMUNITY SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD OFFICES IN THIS CHURCH. THIS CHURCH WOULD HAVE BEEN A PERFECT COMMUNITY CENTER. IT IS CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. HAD A GYM WITH A BASKETBALL COURT, A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN OFFICES FOR SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS, A CHAPEL FOR MEETINGS, AND LOTS OF PARKING. IN 2021 WHEN THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNED AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM CIVIC TO MULTIFAMILY, THE IRAQ CONTACT TEAM ASKED CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS CHURCH TO BE RENTED BY THE CITY FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT THE BUILDINGS WILL BE DEMOLISHED FOR APARTMENTS. THE IRAQ CONTACT TEAM VOTED TO ASK CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF THE MANY LOW INCOME RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THIS AREA BY ALLOWING THE FORMER YOUTH HOST TO BE USED AS A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. A COMMUNITY CENTER IS WHAT THIS AREA NEEDS AND WOULD BE THE MOST BENEFICIAL USE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA. THESE ARE THE REQUESTS OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE ROOMS IN THE YOUTH HOST FOR MEETINGS UNTIL THE FACILITY CLOSES FOR RENOVATION RECOGNITION THAT THE YOUTH HOST AND ANY FUTURE BUILDING ON THIS PROPERTY ARE PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ALL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. RECOGNITION THAT THE ERO CONTACT TEAM AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ARE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PROCESS TO DECIDE FUTURE USES OF THE YOUTH HOSTILE PROPERTY. THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES THAT ARE GENERATED IN THIS AREA SHOULD BE SPENT IN THIS AREA. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN IMPROVED PROCESS FOR NOTIFYING COMMUNITIES ABOUT CHANGES TO PARKS IN THEIR AREAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. ED MILLER WILL SPEAK NEXT ABOUT THE NEED FOR SOCIAL SERVICES IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE AREA. GOOD EVENING ON THE DIAS. UH, AS ADVERTISED, I ED MILLER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF OUR HOUSE. WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD PROVIDING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES TO THE MOST CHRONICALLY UNDERSERVED SECTION OF THE CITY SINCE EARLY IN THIS CENTURY. WE STARTED OUT IN A PRINCIPE LUTHERAN CHURCH UP ON OLD TURF THAT WAS SOLD, TORN DOWN, AND IS NOW A CAR WASH. UH, THEN WE MOVED TO PARKER LANE METHODIST CHURCH AND PROVIDED SERVICES THERE FOR YEARS UNTIL THEY DECIDED TO TEAR IT DOWN AND BUILD LOW RENT APARTMENTS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALREADY HAS MORE THAN 60 LOW RENT APARTMENT COMPLEXES. THAT WAS THE LAST PLACE WE HAD TO PROVIDE SPORTS OPPORTUNITIES, TRAINING, REHABILITATION, RECOVERY INFORMATION AND PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO THE NEEDIEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY. WE THEN DISCOVERED THAT THE YOUTH HOST HAD BEEN ABANDONED, WELL TURNED ACTUALLY INTO PART OFFICES AND STORAGE. AND, UH, NOW I UNDERSTAND THERE'S AN INTEREST IN TURNING THAT OVER TO THE ROWING PEOPLE. UM, I SAW A VERY WELL PROMOTED EVENT ON THE NEWS LAST NIGHT. WELL PUBLICIZED, UH, AND PERFECT TIMING. I MIGHT ADD TO LEAVE THAT THE LAST THING ON YOUR MIND BEFORE THIS AGENDA ITEM CAME UP TONIGHT, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT EAST RIVERSIDE, AND I'M HERE TO GIVE VOICE TO THE CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE LANGUAGE. DON'T HAVE A CAR TO GET DOWN HERE, DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO SPEAK BEFORE A CIVIC BODY. DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I KNOW WHAT TO DO. THAT'S JUST COME DOWN HERE AND TELL YOU HOW THINGS ARE OUT THERE. IT IS THE HIGHEST CRIME, HIGHEST POVERTY, HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT, HIGHEST SCHOOL DROPOUT AREA IN THE CITY. AND [00:25:01] WE USED TO HAVE CHURCHES WHERE WE COULD GATHER AND PROVIDE PROGRAMS. UH, MAYBE HAVE SEEN A HANDOUT HERE WITH OUR LIST OF MORE THAN A DOZEN PROGRAMS ON IT. THIS IS NOT PIE IN THE SKY. SOMETHING WE WISH WE COULD DO. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND CAN'T NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT MAYBE THE FORMER YOUTH HOST, WHICH USED TO SERVE PEOPLE, MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AGAIN, THIS IS THE MOST CHRONICALLY UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY, AND THE KIDS NEED SOMETHING TO DO OTHER THAN HANG OUT ON THE CORNER SELLING DOPE AND TRYING TO DECIDE WHICH CAR TO BREAK INTO NEXT. SOUNDS FUNNY. IT'S NOT, IT'S REAL. AND THEY NEED SPORTS. THEY NEED RECREATION AND, AND, AND, AND ROWING AROUND THE LAKE IS NICE, BUT, BUT THAT'S SORT OF AN ODD USE OF PUBLIC TERRITORY FOR NEEDY KIDS WHO COULD PROBABLY FIT BETTER INTO MORE MAINSTREAM SPORTS LIKE, UH, BASKETBALL OR SOCCER. THERE'S A NEW CRAY THAT'S CALLED PICKLE BALL THAT I UNDERSTAND IS VERY POPULAR COMING UP NOW. DOESN'T TAKE UP VERY MUCH SPACE, BUT KIDS COULD PLAY IT. THEY NEED SOMETHING TO DO. WE NEED A PLACE TO HAVE MEETINGS. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO BE ORGANIZED. IT HAS NO POLITICAL POWER. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE LANGUAGE. CERTAINLY NOT POLITICAL CONNECTION. CERTAINLY NOT MONEY OR FAME OR ANY SOCIAL STATUS WHATSOEVER. AND SO THE CITY SEEMS TO OVERLOOK EAST RIVERSIDE. AND WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF GIVING THE COMMUNITY NEXT TO THE YOUTH HOST A PLACE TO ORGANIZE ITSELF, TO HAVE SERVICES DELIVERED TO ITSELF WHERE THEY CAN COME AND MEET AND PLAN AND WORK TOGETHER AND GET THE THINGS THEY NEED TO STOP BEING THE MOST SOCIOECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED NEIGHBORHOOD IN TOWN. WE'VE WORKED THERE WITH THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH RIVERSIDE TOGETHERNESS. UH, RIVERSIDE TOGETHERNESS KIND OF FOLLOWED THE LEAD. WE HAD ALREADY ESTABLISHED. THEY GOT A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME TRY TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPT OF COMMUNITY POLICING. AND, AND OUR HOUSE HAS PUT ON A NUMBER OF EVENTS INTRODUCING COPS AND KIDS INTO MUTUALLY INTERESTING ACTIVITIES. WE PUT ON HOT DOGS AND HOOPS UP AT TRAVIS HIGH SCHOOL. WE'VE HAD MEETINGS THAT IT AMOUNTS TO RUBBING PUPPIES NOSES TOGETHER SO THEY DON'T BARK AT EACH OTHER BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE KIDS ARE FRIGHTENED BY THE COLOR DARK BLUE, AND ALL THEY KNOW TO DO IS RUN WHEN THEY SEE A BADGE. AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE, LEAST OF ALL FOR US IN THE CITY THAT HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE WAY AUSTIN GROWS UP. SO WE'RE HERE PROMOTING THE IDEA OF COMMUNITY COHESION, OF HAVING A GATHERING PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE CAN HAVE MEETINGS FOR DISCUSSIONS CAN RANGE INTO THE PROBLEMS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE. I WENT TO A COMMANDER'S FORUM PUT ON BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LAST FRIDAY. UH, TWO WEEKS BEFORE THAT. IT WAS COFFEE WITH A COP. THOSE WERE BOTH IN, UH, THE ONE LAST FRIDAY WAS IN THE MONOPOLI COMMUNITY CENTER BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ONE, AS YOU KNOW, IN EAST RIVERSIDE. BUT WE BORROWED ONE FROM THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD OVER WHERE WE COULD MEET INSIDE. IT WAS IN A GYMNASIUM WITH PEOPLE YELLING AND RUNNING AROUND THE TRACK AND HOLLERING AND CARRYING ON AND DROPPING WEIGHTS WHILE WE TRIED TO TALK TO COPS. BUT BE THAT, AS IT MAY ONE BEFORE WAS IN A PRIVATE COFFEE SHOP, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO MEET. THERE'S NO PLACE TO EVEN TALK ABOUT WHAT'S WRONG, NOT ALONE, TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO FIX WHAT'S WRONG, NOT ALONE, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT ARE MISSING. SO IF I'M BEING A LITTLE OVERLY DRAMATIC, IT, IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT. I'M TRYING TO GET THE MESSAGE THROUGH THAT WE NEED HELP. THE COMMUNITY NEEDS HELP. AND IT'S NICE THAT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER CAN COME DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW AND ROW UP AND DOWN THE RIVER, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THE YOUTH CENTER NEED HELP. AND THEY HAVE NO ACCESS TO EVEN A PLACE TO MEET, TO TALK ABOUT [00:30:01] WHAT THEY NEED, NOT ALONE TO HAVE THOSE SERVICES PROVIDED TO THEM. SO I BEG OF YOU, PLEASE CONSIDER THOSE FOLKS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. AND MR. EIGHTS BOTH FOR COMING DOWN TO BRING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. UM, PATRICK AND I MET WITH THESE, UM, AND ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, OF THE IRAQ TELL ME AT EAST RIVERSIDE AND OLTORF COMMUNITY, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? E R O C STANDS FOR EAST RIVERSIDE AND OLTORF COMMUNITIES. SO, YEAH. SO WE CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE THIS AS AN ACTION ITEM TONIGHT, BUT I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD, AND MAYBE PATRICK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN THERE WHEN WE WENT TO VISIT? SURE. SO THIS IS IN THE DISTRICT, UH, FOR ME, DISTRICT THREE, AND HONESTLY, I WASN'T VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA BEFOREHAND. UH, BUT GENTLEMEN GAVE US A REALLY GREAT KINDA WALKING TOUR OF THE PARK AREA AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND PRETTY MUCH PANS OUT IN, IN A VERY SIMILAR ASPECT FOR HOW THEY PRESENTED IT TONIGHT. UM, THOUGHT THE DATA THEY SHOWED ABOUT THE CRIME AND POVERTY IN THE AREA WAS REALLY COMPELLING, UM, TO AT LEAST HAVE US CONSIDER LEARNING MORE AND POSSIBLY, UH, YOU KNOW, HOLDING OPEN THE POSSIBILITY OF RECOMMENDING FUTURE ACTION ON THIS IN, IN THE FUTURE. UM, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PLANNING PARKLAND IN THIS AREA, THE, THE, THE PARK, UH, THE MAIN PARK IN QUESTION IS, IS IS NICE, BUT IS VERY UNDERDEVELOPED FOR THE, THE TYPES OF NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY THERE THAT HAVE BEEN ARTICULATED TO US AT LEAST, RIGHT? YES. YEAH. UM, YEAH. SO, UM, SO WHAT HAS GONE IN, IT'S KIND OF A DONE DEAL. I WENT INTO JUST LIKE A FACT FINDING MISSION FOUNDATIONS COMMUNITY HAS TAKEN OVER THE CHURCH THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SPACE THAT THEY'VE BEEN USING. UM, AND FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, IT'S A DONE DEAL. AND, AND THEY HAVE, UH, OFFERED SOME COMMUNITY SPACE. AND I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO ALL THOSE DETAILS, BUT I DO HAVE SOME FACTS THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU GUYS THAT THEY GAVE ME ABOUT WHO, WHAT THEY WILL HAVE AVAILABLE. AND THEY ARE TRYING TO LEAVE SOME BUFFER ZONE, AND THEY HAVE A SPACE THAT THE PARKS WILL NEED TO WORK WITH THEM TO DEVELOP AS, AS AN EASEMENT FOR AN AREA ON BURTON DRIVE. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WALKING THROUGH. SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN WORK ON. I THINK WE JUST WANTED TO REALLY, PATRICK AND I WANTED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO SORT OF BRING IT TO OUR RADAR BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM. UM, WHEN THEY FIRST CAME, I THINK MR. YATES CAME LAST MONTH, AND I WENT AND DID A LITTLE DRIVING TOUR, AND THERE ARE JUST APARTMENTS EVERYWHERE. AND THE APARTMENTS ARE NOT PUTTING IN ANY SPACE WHATSOEVER FOR EVEN ON THEIR PROPERTY, FOR THEIR OWN RESIDENCE. SO THERE'S JUST NO PARK LAND. HE'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CORRECT. AND THE TWO PLACES THAT I DID SEE ARE THESE POCKET PARK AREAS THAT THEY WERE MENTIONING ON ROYAL CRESTON. I'VE FOR, I'VE FORGOTTEN NOW THE NAME OF THE OTHER ROAD, BUT THEY HAD THEM ON THERE. SO I JUST THINK THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO WORK BEHIND THE SCENES A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO THIS. AND I JUST WANT YOU ROCK TO KNOW WE'RE LISTENING TO YOU AND WE HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND WE AGREE WITH, WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT YOU GUYS NEED SOME HELP. AND, UM, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR COMING. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MR. DALMA? YEAH, I MEAN, I GUESS GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, I GUESS THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU KNOW, THE, I'VE LONG WANTED A REC CENTER IN ROCK, BUT WHERE THE KIDS WERE, AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES OVER BY ORACLE, THAT'S NOT WHERE THE KIDS ARE. AND IF WE'RE HAVING THE ADULTS IN THAT AREA WITH ALL THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF GOING TO ROY GITO PARK, AND THEN THEY HAVE THE PARKLAND RIGHT IN THERE. AND SO WHEN I REALLY LOOKED AT IT, I MEAN, I, I STILL FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT THE CONCENTRATION, UM, OF THOSE KIDS ARE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN EAST RIVERSIDE AND EAST URF, THAT'S WHERE THE KIDS ARE. UNLESS WE WANT KIDS TO BE ABLE TO CROSS TWO MAJOR STREETS. AND SO, AND WHEN WE LOOK ABOUT WHAT, WHERE THERE'S A LACK OF SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S IT. I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR WRAPAROUND SERVICES, SOMETHING WE'RE SEEING NOW WITH DEF DO SPRINGS AND THE, UH, THE HEALTH CENTER THERE, THAT'S THE AREA OF FOCUS. AND SO AS WE MOVE NEXT YEAR INTO BOND AS A CITY MOVES INTO NEXT YEAR TO BOND PLANNING, I MEAN, I THINK, I HOPE THAT THIS BOARD GETS IN FRONT OF THAT LIST, ASSUMING THAT WE GO TO A BOND NEXT NOVEMBER. BUT, AND REALLY LOOK TO SEE WHERE DO WE HAVE GAPS IN SERVICE? AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF AREAS OF GAPS IN SERVICE. AND CERTAINLY, UH, THERO NEIGHBORHOOD IS DEFINITELY THAT. UM, [00:35:01] SO THAT, I GUESS THAT'S REALLY THE BIG PART. THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR ANYBODY WHO'S JUST KIND OF TO CHIMING IN, UM, YOU KNOW, CENTRAL MAINTENANCE COMPLEX. YEAH, IT'S A DEDICATED PARKLAND, BUT IT'S, IT'S A CENTRAL BUILDING. IT'S NOT ACTIVATED PARK LAND FOR ACT, YOU KNOW, FOR ACTIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION. UH, THE, THE CURRENT YOUTH HOST IS BEING GEARED TOWARDS THE, THE, THE AUSTIN ROWING CLUB. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEIRS HAS BEEN TORN, HAS BEEN TORN DOWN AS PART OF, UH, TMP. ONE THING I'M GONNA JUMP IN THERE REALLY QUICK WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, IS THAT I DID TALK TO DIRECTOR MCNE, WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT FOR FAMILY REASONS. UM, BUT SHE DID MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS. AND ONE OF THEM IS THAT SHE IS KEEPING HER EYE ON THE BALL FOR PUTTING A COMMUNITY ROOM AT THE, UM, AT THE HOSTEL, AT THE YOUTH HOSTEL, THE FORMER YOUTH HOST. SO WE WILL KEEP, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR EYE ON TOO, THAT THERE IS PUBLIC SPACE THERE. I AGREE WITH RICH, I MEAN, WITH BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA THAT, UM, CROSSING RIVERSIDE, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FIND A SPACE UP THE HILL TOWARD THOSE APARTMENTS. SO IT'S EASY WALKING FOR STUDENTS AND, AND YOUNG ADULT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO COME TO PLAY PICKLE BALL OR WHATNOT. SO I, THAT, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANNA JUMP IN THERE AND ADD ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SPACE. YEAH, I MEAN, AND FOR ME, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO DO WHERE, WHERE NEAR KIDS ARE AND, AND YOU KNOW, PREFERABLY WHERE NEAR SCHOOLS ARE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT PAST CLOSINGS, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING THE AREA WITH A IS D ON SOME OF THE SCHOOLS, UM, THE, THE ROYAL CREST POCKET PARK, I SAW THAT AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF STAFF, UM, AND BE IF COULD ANSWER A QUESTION RELATING TO THAT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE OVERLAY OF THE, THE OLD COMMERCIAL PARCEL, WHICH HAD LIKE, I FORGOT WHAT, THAT'S A CLUB LATINO. AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT'S BEEN CLOSED DOWN AND THEY'RE GOING TO, AND THAT'S WHERE THE PARKLAND IS GOING TO ACTIVATE THAT PARTICULAR SPACE. BUT I, I'D LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE. AND WE REALLY DO NEED TO LOOK AT HOW PARKLAND IS PURCHASED, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW IT IS. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ONLINE BOARD MEMBER LEWIS? OH, WE HAVE A, UM, THANK YOU. THIS IS TOM ROWSON WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE ROYAL CREST POCKET PARK. SO THAT WAS A PARK LINE DEDICATION CASE. I BELIEVE THE PROJECT STILL UNDER REDEVELOPMENT, UM, BUT WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. BUT YEAH, I BELIEVE YOU ARE CORRECT, UH, BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA THAT IT'S UNDER REDEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, SO THAT FOOTPRINT EVENTUALLY WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, PARK AMENITIES IN IT. GREAT. APPRECIATE IT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AUDIENCE HAS THE FULL INFORMATION. THANK YOU. YES. UH, BOARD MEMBER, UH, VICE VICE CHAIR PASS. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, COMMENT IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE PARKLAND FEES WENT TO THE HOLLY SHORES PARK ACROSS THE RIVER. AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD GET AN EXPLANATION FROM STAFF OF HOW THAT WORKS, IF THE DISTANT RESTRICTION DISTANCE RESTRICTIONS OR AS THE CROW FLIES, OR, I MEAN, THAT SEEMS, HELLO, THIS IS LEANNA KAKA. OH, HINA. AND HI. UM, I, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AND SEE ALL THE DETAILS AND WE CAN PROVIDE A RESPONSE REGARDING THE FEES AND HOW THEY WERE SPENT. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I MEAN, JUST WHAT ARE LIKE THE OVERALL POLICIES SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT SO FAR AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK A CLO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT, UM MM-HMM. CITYWIDE. YEAH, WE CAN PROVIDE THE, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. YES. BOARD MEMBER HAMAN. YEAH, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT, LAURA, YOU SAID IN YOUR TOUR YOU SAW APARTMENT AFTER APARTMENT WITH NO PARKS, AND SO PRESUMABLY THEY PAID A, THE FEE. SO HOW I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT MORE THAN JUST THE ONE BUILDING, UM, WHY IS IT THAT THERE ARE NO PARKS IN THAT AREA? WHERE DO THOSE FEES GO TO? BOARD MEMBER, DIPLOMA CHAIR, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY CAN GO ONLINE AS WELL. AND SO IF YOU GO ONLINE TO THE, OUR, THE CITY STAFF OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT CREATED A REALLY GREAT S SYSTEM WHERE YOU CAN GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, PROJECTS AND SEE HOW MUCH WAS DEDICATED AND IF THE MONEY WAS ALLOCATED OR IF IT'S JUST SITTING THERE. CUZ IN SOME INSTANCES, JUST ENOUGH VOLUME AND THE MORE PARKLAND DEDICATION, WE, AND THERE'S A CRITICISM WE GET OFTEN FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T SPEND THE MONEY. WELL, [00:40:01] IF WE CHARGE MORE FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION, WE COULD ACTUALLY DO MORE WITH IT. UM, BUT, AND SO YOU CAN GO AND SEE AND SEE HOW IT WAS ALLOCATED. DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. A LOT OF THOSE APARTMENTS ARE VERY OLD AND I SUSPECT THAT THEY WERE BUILT BEFORE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES WERE AN ORDINANCE. OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE TOO. AND THEN ONE OTHER THING I HAD ASKED IF, UH, CHRISTINE KANU, CHANK WAS ABLE TO COME, DID SHE COME TONIGHT? BECAUSE ONE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER AND MAYBE TO HELP, UM, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH IS, UH, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL, WAS IT LAST TIME OR THE TIME BEFORE THEY ALL SORT OF RUN TOGETHER THESE MEETINGS? UM, WHERE WE SAW THE WILLIAMSON CREEK DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD PUT TOGETHER AND THE HERITAGE WALLS AND THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND THOSE THINGS. AND SO I THINK MAYBE WE COULD, UM, PARTNER WITH THEM AND HELP, UM, GUIDE THEM TO GET THERE'S, IT'S CALLED COMMUNITY. DOES ANYBODY HELP ME? UM, DIRECTOR CAL BOCA COMMUNITY. WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE THING? THE COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY ACTIVATED PARTNERSHIPS. THE CAL. THANK YOU. YES. I HAD IT WRITTEN DOWN ON MY NOTEBOOK, WHICH I WALKED OUT OF THE HOUSE WITHOUT TONIGHT. SO, SO I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE OPTIONS AND I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THEM ON THE TABLE. AND I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TALKING BEHIND THE SCENES AND TALKING TO THE PARK DEPARTMENT AND GETTING THIS INFORMATION. AND, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPOKESPEOPLE TO COME AND, AND GIVE US THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT. SO ANY FURTHER COMMENT? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. NUMBER THREE, [3. Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding a recommendation to City Council on the Brodie Oaks Planned Unit Development application and whether it is superior with respect to parkland dedication] WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE RODEO OAKS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AND WHETHER IT IS SUPERIOR WITH RESPECT TO PARKLAND DEDICATION. UM, PRESENTERS TOM THOMAS RAWLINSON, UH, FROM PARKS AND REC. UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS. I'M TOM ROLLINSON, UH, PRINCIPAL PLAYER WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME PRESENT TONIGHT, UH, ON THE PROPOSED, UH, BRO PLANS UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UM, ALSO KNOWN AS A P U D OR PUT, UH, THE, THE APPLICATION IS A REZONING CASE AND THE CASE NUMBER IS C 814 DASH 2021, UH, DASH 0 99 AND IS TO GRANT THE SITE, THE POD ZONING DESIGNATION FOR REDEVELOPMENT, UH, TONIGHT WILL EVALUATE HOW THE PROPOSED POD APPLICATION MEETS SUPERIORITY OVER CURRENT CODE AS IT RELATES TO PARKLAND DEDICATION. UH, SO JUST GETTING INTO THE OVERVIEW HERE, THE, UH, THE EXISTING BRODY OAKS SHOPPING CENTER IS LOCATED, UH, NEAR LOOP 360 AND HIGHWAY TWO 90, UH, JUST BEHIND THE EXISTING BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT. UM, SOME OF Y'ALL MAY RECALL THE SITE AS HAVING THE, UH, FORMER TOYS A US AND IT ISN'T TOO FAR FROM THE AND CREEK AT 360 TRAILHEAD AND PARKING AREA, THAT'S PART OF THE BAR AND CREEK PLAZA. UH, THE CURRENT ZONING IS A MIX OF COMMERCIAL DESIGNATIONS, SO GENERAL COMMERCIAL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. THE, UH, POD ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR A HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE ACTIVITY CENTER WITH 1,700 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS WELL AS 1.2 MILLION, UH, SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND 140,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL RESTAURANTS PLUS 200 HOTEL ROOMS. THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, WHAT'S PROPOSED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION, UM, TO CONSIDER THIS TYPE OF ZONING CATEGORY. THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, MUST DEMONSTRATE ITY IN A NUMBER OF CITY REVIEW DISCIPLINES. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. WE'RE GONNA DO IT AFTERWARDS. I'M SORRY. NO, EVERYTHING ALL RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. WE, I FORGOT TO ASK FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING, BUT WE DECIDED TO DO IT AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION. OH, MY BAD. NO, IT'S MY BAD. SO CONTINUE. I'M SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION. ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, ONE OF THOSE REVIEWED DISCIPLINES, UH, THAT THIS APPLICATION IS WEIGHED AGAINST FOR SUPERIORITY IS PARK LANE DEDICATION, A SUBJECT WE'RE ALL EXPERTS ON AFTER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WE'VE HAD. UM, AND THE REST OF MY PRESENTATION WILL COVER HOW THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES TO EXCEED THE CURRENT PARK LANE DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS. SO WE HAVE AN AERIAL SHOT OF WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE TODAY. UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT EXISTS, UH, ORIGINALLY GOES BACK TO 1981, WHERE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT INCLUDED, UH, THE DEDICATION OF THIS SECTION OF BARTON CREEK GREEN BELTS. I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT 84 ACRES OF PARKLAND BETWEEN THE SHOPPING CENTER AND THE CENTER LINE OF THE CREEK. UH, AS NOTED, THE SHOPPING CENTER FEATURES QUITE A BIT OF HARD SURFACES. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL, [00:45:01] UH, IT'S EQUAL TO ABOUT 84% OF IMPERVIOUS HARD SURFACE IMPERVIOUS COVER, WHICH DRAINS RIGHT INTO THE BARN CREEK GREEN BELT. CURRENTLY, UH, BIG PART OF THE PROJECT'S APPEAL IS A MAJOR REDUCTION IN THAT IMPERVIOUS COVER AND REDUCING THE DRAIN ENGINE TO THE EXISTING PARKLAND. UH, THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING, UH, HOLD ON. UH, YES, IT'S PROPOSING A REDUCTION IN PERVIOUS COVER TO A MAXIMUM OF 54% OF THE GROSS SITE AREA. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S AT 84%, SO GOING DOWN TO 54%. UM, HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL STILL BE REQUESTING A SEPARATE CODE AMENDMENT TO THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THIS AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER. UH, WE DO HAVE OUR WATERSHED DEPARTMENT PARTNER, LESLIE LILLY HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOS ORDINANCE. GETTING INTO THE ACTUAL PARKS PLAN, UH, WE HAVE A SERIES OF INTERCONNECTED PARKS, UH, THAT ARE IN THE GREEN TONE THAT YOU SEE HERE FROM THE PLAN, UH, THAT WOULD EXPAND THE EXISTING BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT AT THIS LOCATION, UH, PROVIDING AN OVERLOOKING TRAILHEAD FOR THE GREEN BELT, AS WELL AS TWO NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. OVERALL, IT'S, UH, ABOUT 11.6 GROSS ACRES OF PARKLAND ALL ALONG PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE STREETS. UH, THAT'S EQUAL TO ABOUT 31% OF THE SITE'S, UH, GROSS SITE AREA, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL FOR AN INFILL PROJECT OF THIS KIND. UH, ALL THE PARKLAND IS TO BE DEDICATED FEE SIMPLE. SO THAT MEANS THAT THE CITY WOULD BE OWNING THAT PARK LAND GOING FORWARD. UH, IN THE CENTER THERE, THERE'S THE CENTRAL GREEN POCKET PARK. UH, THIS IS ENVISIONED AS A KIND OF PLAZA WITH, UH, WHICH THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO HELP PROGRAM, UH, POTENTIALLY BY OFFERING EVENTS. UH, THE TRAIL HAD OVERLOOKED PARK THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE GREEN BELT, UH, WOULD BE EXPANDING THE GREEN BELTS AND COMPLIMENTING IT. AND THEN ALONG THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE SITE, THERE IS A, UH, TWO ACRE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK TO BE DEDICATED AS PART OF THE SECOND PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS PROJECT REALLY ONLY HAS TWO PHASES. UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE PARK LINE THAT YOU SEE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, ALL OF THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED AND DEDICATED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT VERY FIRST PHASE. UH, OVERALL, FOR AN INFILL PUT OF THIS SIZE, THEY ARE PROPOSING A MINIMUM OF 7.6 CREDITED ACRES OF PARKLAND. SO THAT'S AFTER REDUCTIONS FOR ANY STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAY BE PROPOSED AS WELL AS OTHER ENCUMBRANCES. SO FROM THAT 11.6 GROSS PARK ACRES, YOU GET 7.6 CREDITED AFTER THOSE DISCOUNTS, AND THAT ULTIMATELY EQUALS TO 20% OF THE GROSS SITE AREA. UH, SO WITH THESE TWO NUMBERS, 31% BEFORE, UH, CREDIT REDUCTIONS AND 20% AFTER THOSE CREDIT REDUCTIONS, THAT IS SUPERIOR TO WHAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REQUIRE UNDER CURRENT CODE. UH, RIGHT NOW FOR AN INFILL URBAN CORE PROJECT LIKE THIS, UH, WE WOULD BE CAPPED AT 15% OF THE GROWTH SITE AREA. SO REALLY THIS APPLICATION'S DOUBLING THAT AMOUNT. UH, SO GIVEN THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ASSESSED AT THE SUPERIOR 10.4 ACRES PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS AS WELL, THERE IS KIND OF A REMAINDER THAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM THERE, THAT 76%, UH, THIS WOULD BE SATISFIED USING FEE IN LIE AND USING THE, UH, FEE SCHEDULE THAT WAS MOST RECENTLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, WERE ESTIMATING THAT THAT REMAINDER WOULD BE SOMETHING EQUAL TO ABOUT 4 MILLION IN FEE IN LIE, UH, USING THE, THE 10.4 ACRES PER THOUSAND. UH, AGAIN, THAT'S SUPERIOR TO WHAT WE'D NORMALLY USE FOR A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS UNDER CURRENT CODE, WHICH IS 9.4 ACRES PER THOUSAND. SO THAT'S AN EXTRA ACRE PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS. LOOKING AT THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PARKS THAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED AN ADDITIONAL $700 PER, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL UNIT, UH, OVER THE DEVELOPMENT FEE RATE, IN EFFECT AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING. SO WHAT THIS WOULD TRANSLATE TO IS ROUGHLY 2.2 MILLION IN PARK DEVELOPMENT. UM, THAT'S ROUGHLY DOUBLE WHAT WE WOULD'VE NORMALLY REQUIRED UNDER CURRENT CODE. UM, THE EXACT PARK DESIGNS ARE STILL BEING FINALIZED, UH, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AT THE TIME OF SITE DEVELOPMENT. UH, BUT GENERALLY THERE IS A LIST OF AMENITIES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION, AND THE APPLICANT MUST COMPLY WITH THESE LIST OF AMENITIES. UM, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE NO LESS THAN THREE OF THE LISTED AMENITIES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. UM, AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO BE MET WITH PART APPROVAL. OTHER AMENITIES MAY BE CONSIDERED AS WELL, UH, AS LONG AS THEY'RE MUTUALLY AGREED BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. FINALLY, AS WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTENANCE, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING ALL THE PARK SPACE, SO DEDICATING THEM FEE SIMPLE TO CITY OWNERSHIP, BUT ULTIMATELY MAINTAINING THEM THEMSELVES, [00:50:01] WHICH IS A PRETTY BIG COMMITMENT. SO AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD NORMALLY BE ABLE TO REQUIRE, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER SUPERIOR, UH, YOU KNOW, IN ASSESSING THIS DEVELOPMENT. UH, JUST A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL FEATURES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UM, AS FAR AS STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UM, WHILE THEY ARE PERMITTED A MAXIMUM OF 6.4 ACRES OF STORM WATER MANAGEMENTS IN THE PARKLAND, THE APPLICANT DOES BELIEVE THAT THEY COULD REDUCE THAT TO MAYBE ABOUT FOUR ACRES TO REALLY JUST UNDERGROUND PONDS THAT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE SURFACE USE OF THE PARKLAND WHATSOEVER, AND VERY LITTLE RE IRRIGATION OF ANY STORM WATER. UM, AND THEY PLAN TO ACHIEVE THAT THROUGH INNOVATIVE STORM WATER SOLUTIONS SUCH AS THE UNDERGROUND PONDS THAT THEY'VE PROPOSED AS PART OF THE PROJECT. UM, AS FAR AS THE DESIGN OF ANY PONDS AND IRRIGATION RE IRRIGATION, UM, THEY ABSOLUTELY MUST BE DESIGNED WITH OUR PARK STANDARDS, UM, PARKLAND DEDICATION OPERATING PROCEDURES, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE, UH, RECREATIONAL VALUE AND THEY NEED TO BE MONETIZED. UM, TWO FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL COMMITMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE ARE THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE SITE SILVER CERTIFICATION FOR ALL THE PARKS, AS WELL AS 50 RESERVED PARKING SPACES FOR PARK USERS. SO SITE CERTIFICATION IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE LEAD, BUT FOR LANDSCAPES AND, UH, A LOT OF THE POINTS THAT YOU GET FOR THIS KIND OF CERTIFICATION ARE THINGS THE APPLICANT'S ALREADY COMMITTED TO, UH, LIKE REDEVELOPING DEGRADED SITES, UH, PROTECTING ECOSYSTEMS, UH, REDUCING WATER USE AND RESTORING DISTURBED SOILS. UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT'S TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH ALL OF OUR PARKS. SO, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE CONSIDER. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE REQUIRE WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION TODAY, BUT CERTAINLY APPRECIATED ONE, ASSESSING A PROJECT FOR SUPERIORITY. UH, SO OVERALL, CONSIDERING THE ADDITIONAL PARK ACREAGE, THE ADDITIONAL PARK INVESTMENTS, AS WELL AS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER RUNOFF, UH, PLUS THE PARKING SPACES, WHICH WAS, UH, ALSO A, A BIG VALUE ADD FOR US IS WE TRY TO BETTER FIND PARKING FOR THE BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT. UH, GENERALLY STAFF, UH, IS RECOMMENDING THIS FOR SUPERIORITY WITH RESPECT TO PARKLAND DEDICATION. SO ULTIMATELY THIS, UH, CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. UH, THIS WAS POSTED AS AN ACTION ITEM FOR Y'ALL'S DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. UM, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANTS HERE THIS EVENING, UH, REBECCA AND ABBY FROM LIONHEART, AND THEY'VE ALSO PREPARED A PRESENTATION THAT THEY'D LOVE TO SHARE WITH Y'ALL THAT GOES INTO MORE DETAIL, I THINK HAS SOME, UH, ILLUSTRATIONS AS WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM. OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK I'M GONNA DO, SINCE I MADE THE MISTAKE OF NOT, UH, CALLING PUBLIC COMMUNICATION BEFORE THIS ITEM, I WASN'T AWARE THAT THERE WAS ANY, SO IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN PUT YOU ON PAUSE FOR A MOMENT, HAVE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND SEE THE PRESENTATIONS. IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND. THAT WAY THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT TO DO THEIR PRESENTATION. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UNDERSTANDING. UM, BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO ABOUT THIS, BUT I GOT A MEMBER, UH, BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR IS OFF AND SHE'S HAVING TROUBLE GETTING BACK ON IF YOU CAN DO SO. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING FROM UP HERE, BUT TIM, IF YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HER AND SEE HOW TO HELP. OKAY. UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. DO YOU WANT TO, THE FIRST, THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM IS BILL BUNCH, . GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY ON THE PARKS BOARD. I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'M BILL BUNCH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE. UM, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A GROUP OF OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVISTS, ENGAGING WITH THE DEVELOPERS ON THIS PROJECT. UH, THERE'S BEEN VERY HEALTHY COMMUNICATIONS. UM, THEY'RE CONTINUING, UM, THEY'RE NOT DONE YET. UH, WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT THEY'LL BE AGREEMENT AT THE END OF THE DAY. UM, BUT WE'RE STILL LEARNING THINGS. AND OUR, OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN ON THE WATER QUALITY STUFF AND THE REDUCING OF THE IMPERVIOUS COVER, WHICH WE'RE VERY HAPPY ABOUT. AND THEN DEALING WITH, UM, WHAT LEVEL OF INTENSIFICATION OF DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE HERE. IT'S CERTAINLY CALLED FLOOR IN THE, UH, AUSTIN TOMORROW PLAN AND SOS SUPPORTED THAT, EXCUSE ME, THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN. WE SUPPORTED THAT. UH, BUT THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT HOW MUCH ON THE PARK SIDE, UM, I'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON THIS ISSUE. AS Y'ALL MAY WELL KNOW, FROM THE STATESMAN PUT ANGLE, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED [00:55:01] WITH THIS BASIC IDEA OF COUNTING LAND AS PUBLIC PARK LAND WHEN IT'S REALLY BEING USED FOR THE PRIVATE WATER QUALITY AND DRAINAGE FACILITIES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. ANY DEVELOPMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS PRACTICE STARTED HAPPENING, BUT IT'S AN, IT'S JUST RECENTLY ON MY RADAR. AND, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD AVOID DRIFTING OFF INTO ORWELLIAN NEWSPEAK WHERE WE'RE CALLING STUFF PUBLIC AND PARKLAND WHEN THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS. UM, UH, AND, AND WE THROW AROUND TERMS LIKE RAIN GARDEN, AND I SEE WHERE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME DESIGN OF A RAINBOW GARDEN COULD IN FACT BE USED AS PARKLAND, UM, BUT OTHERS COULD NOT BE. AND, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, WE NEED TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT IF THIS, THIS, THIS USE OF LAND, UH, REATION LAND, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THAT REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR PUBLIC PARKLAND? AND MAYBE IN SOME CASES IT IS, BUT I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE. UM, AND WITH THE STATESMAN PUT, IT'S, IT'S A NIGHTMARE WHERE WE'RE REALLY CALLING STUFF PUBLIC WHEN THEY WANNA MAINTAIN THE PRIVATE CONTROL OVER THE PARK LAND. UM, I DON'T SEE THAT HERE, BUT I'M NOT CLEAR ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THE MANAGEMENT IS THAT GONNA STAY WITH Y'ALL AND WITH COUNCIL AND THE NORMAL PUBLIC PROCESSES, UH, THAT HADN'T COME TO THE FOUR HERE YET, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT IT'S CALLING FOR SIX, I BELIEVE SIX AND A HALF ACRES OF THE PARK LAND FORM OF WATER QUALITY CONTROL FOR THE P FOR THE PUBLIC PRIVATE LAND. UM, I'D, I'D WOULD WRAP UP WITH ONE LAST POINT. STAFF SHOULD BE STARTING IN THEIR ANALYSIS FOR YOU FROM THE CODE WHERE THERE'S A NICE CALCULATION THAT'S BUILT INTO THE ORDINANCE OF WHAT, HOW MUCH DEMAND IS BEING CREATED, AND THEY'RE NOT SHOWING YOU THAT STARTING POINT CALCULATION. AND FOR THIS PROJECT IT'S 30 ACRES AND THAT, THAT CAME FROM SOME, THIS IDEA THAT WE WANT ESSENTIALLY 9.4 ACRES PER THOUSAND NEW RESIDENTS. THANKS, MR. BUNCH CAN WRAP UP. SO YES, THANK YOU. UM, SO I APPRECIATE IT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ROY WHALEY. HOW DO Y'ALL, MY NAME'S ROY WHALEY. I AM THE CONSERVATION CHAIR FOR THE AUSTIN REGIONAL GROUP OF THE SIERRA CLUB. AND I WAS ORIGINALLY OWNED THE WORKING GROUP FOR THIS, AND SOMEHOW I GOT CLIPPED OFF THE LIST. UH, SO I HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH IT AS WELL AS I'D LIKE TO. BUT I DID TALK TO MR. GEORGE COFER, UH, OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT THE TRAIL. I ALSO TALKED WITH, UH, CLARK HAMMOND THIS AFTERNOON, UH, WHO WAS ALSO IN THE RUTH WORKING GROUP AND THE CHAIR OF, UH, THE SAFE BARTON CREEK ASSOCIATION. UM, AND A LOT, I'M HAPPY ABOUT THE WAY THE ORDER WENT. NOW I DON'T HAVE AS MANY QUESTIONS. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PUBLIC ACCESS WILL HAVE BILL MR. BUNCH JUST ADDRESSED THE STATESMAN PUT, AND THEY ARE, IT'S VERY CLEAR THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT THEIR PRIVATE PARK. I'M ALSO NOT SEEING THIS HERE. SO THE ACCESS IS IMPORTANT IN THE TRAIL. ACCESS IS IMPORTANT. ALSO, HEARING THAT THE, UH, THERE WILL BE SEPARATE PARKING, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WILL BE METERED, AND THAT'S THE WAY I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE. UM, THE, UH, THE SUBTERRANEAN WATER QUALITY PONDS. UH, HOW WILL THEY BE TREATED FOR CONTAMINANTS, MOSQUITOES, ET CETERA, WANTS THE, THE, THE FILL AND DRAIN SCHEDULE FOR THAT, HOW MUCH STANDING WATER AND FOR HOW LONG? UM, LET'S SEE THERE. UM, LET'S SEE. THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG THINGS RIGHT THERE. I'M NOT USED TO HAVING THREE MINUTES. I'M USED TO THE WAY MAYOR ADLER RUNS CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WHERE YOU SIGN UP FOR FOUR ITEMS AND YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK ON ALL OF THEM. AND THIS IS CONSIDERED PUBLIC DEMOCRATIC PARTICIPATION. SO I, I DON'T KNOW. I WASN'T PREPARED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK THIS LONG, SO THANK YOU. I ALSO WASN'T PREPARED FOR Y'ALL TO ACTUALLY BE PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DOESN'T DO THAT EITHER. , THEY'RE BUSY CHECKING THEIR EMAIL AND, AND, UH, PLANS TO DOKU OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING. SO THANK YOU [01:00:01] VERY MUCH, . THANK YOU MR. WHALEY. BUT NEXT TIME YOU SHOULD BE MORE PREPARED. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. . UM, SO YOU WANNA PROCEED WITH QUESTIONS TO STAFF? UM, I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION. DO YOU SHOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE DO YOUR PRESENTATION? THANK YOU. JUST CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS. GOOD EVENING. I'M REBECCA LEONARD AND I HAVE ABBY GELLIN HERE WITH ME. WE'RE WITH LIONHEART. WE'RE THE LAND PLANNERS AND URBAN DESIGNERS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ON THE PROJECT. UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. IT'S AN EXCITING NIGHT FOR A PLANNER WHEN AFTER THREE AND A HALF YEARS, FINALLY YOU GET TO YOUR FIRST BOARD AND COMMISSION HEARING. SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU TONIGHT. UH, THIS IS THE SITE I THINK YOU'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH. UH, JUST THE CORNER HERE IN THE FOREGROUND, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ONLY PERVIOUS PORTIONS OF THE SITE WAS, UH, FORMERLY TECH DOT RIGHT OF WAY. SO BEFORE THAT IT WAS OVER 90% IN PERVIOUS COVER. UH, SO I JUST, UH, WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THERE AND, UM, AND AS TOM MENTIONED, UH, THIS WAS ALL PART OF THE BARTON CREEK PLAZA DEVELOPMENT IN 1981. 40 YEARS HAVE GONE BY IT'S TIME TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE AMENDMENTS TO, UH, THAT FORMER DEVELOPMENT THAT NO LONGER MATCHES WITH THE VISION OF WHAT THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN HAVE DESCRIBED FOR THIS PIECE OF LAND. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO FINALLY BE HERE AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT. UM, THE PROPERTY IS JUST THE BRODI OAK SHOPPING CENTER. UH, I THINK TOM ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE, THE GREEN LINE HERE IS THE 84 ACRES THAT WERE DEDICATED IN 1981 WHEN THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT CAME THROUGH WHEN WE WERE FIRST, UH, STARTING TO DO WORK ON THIS, WHICH BY THE WAY, IS AN ENORMOUS TEAM. AND THERE ARE OTHER FOLKS HERE TOO. I WISH I COULD SHARE, UH, SOME GLORY WITH THEM AS WELL. BUT, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS OUR TEAM NOTICED WAS ALL THE IMPERVIOUS COVER ON SITE AND HOW EMPTY IT WAS, EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT WOULD BE PRIME SHOPPING TIME. AND, UH, SO THAT NO LONGER FITS. THAT'S A SIGNAL TO US THAT THAT NO LONGER FITS THE WAY PEOPLE WANT TO DO RETAIL IN OUR WORLD ANYMORE, AND THE WAY WE SHOULD BE USING, UH, DEVELOPED SPACE IN OUR CITIES. UH, THE OTHER THING THAT STRUCK US WAS JUST HOW MUCH OF A DISCONNECT THERE WAS FROM THE GREEN BELT TO THE DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, LITERALLY A WALL, UH, BUILT AROUND, UH, THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, SOMETIMES CLOSE TO 20 FEET TALL. AND, UM, JUST NO REAL WAY TO GET DOWN INTO THE GREEN BELT IN A, IN A POSITIVE, YOU KNOW, ACCESSIBLE WAY FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY, UH, THAT AMENITY. AS WE DOVE INTO THE PLANNING WORK THAT THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN HAD PUT TOGETHER OVER THE LAST 44 DECADES, UM, WE LOOKED AT IMAGINE AUSTIN. IT IS ONE OF THE GREEN DOTS IN IMAGINE AUSTIN. WE THINK IT'S THE FIRST ONE TO ATTEMPT TO REDEVELOPMENT, UH, IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA. I THINK THIS WAS TO RECOGNIZE AREAS THAT WERE ALL READY, READY COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTERS IN AUSTIN, BUT IN THE WRONG PLACE OR DEVELOPED IN THE WRONG FORMAT. AND THIS WAS A ATTEMPT AT THAT PLAN TO DESCRIBE REDEVELOPMENT, TO BRING UP MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENTAL ETHOS OF OUR CITY AND ALSO ALL THE OTHER NEEDS WE HAVE, UH, IN A DIVERSE GROWING CITY LIKE AUSTIN. WE ALSO NOTED IT WAS ALONG, UH, SOUTH MAR CORRIDOR, WHICH IS A HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT CORRIDOR, AND REALLY IMPORTANT TO BEING ABLE TO GET OUR WORKFORCE IN AND OUT OF DOWNTOWN. UH, AND IT'S ALSO NOW, UH, ON PROJECT CONNECT PURPLE LINE, UH, AND ALSO ON THE VIOLET CROWN TRAIL. SO LOTS OF CONNECTIVITY, UH, IN AND AROUND THE SITE, BUT OUR SITE WAS NOT MAKING GOOD ON ANY OF IT. SOME OF THE ORIGINAL GOALS OF THE PLAN WERE TO CREATE A DYNAMIC, DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE MIXED USE DESTINATION. THIS HAD BEEN A KEY GATHERING PLACE FOR THIS CORNER OF OUR CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT IT HAD FADED OUT AND THIS WAS A WAY OF MAKING THIS, UM, THE, THE PLACE WHERE SOUTH WEST AUSTIN COMES TOGETHER. AGAIN, CONNECTIONS, WE HAVE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING THAT HAS FENCING ALL AROUND IT. ON ONE SIDE, WE HAVE THIS 20 FOOT WALL BREAKING UP, UH, OUR SITE FROM THE GREEN BELT. UH, WE HAVE MAJOR HIGHWAYS IN FRONTAGE ROADS. IT'S, IT'S TECH DOTS, ROADS ON BOTH SIDES. SOUTH LAMAR IS ACTUALLY TECH.IN THIS SECTION. UH, SO LOTS OF BARRIERS ON THIS SITE, AND WE WERE ABOUT TRYING TO BREAK DOWN THOSE BARRIERS AND MAKE BETTER CONNECTIVITY. WE ALSO KNEW FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO MEET THE HIGHEST ECOLOGICAL, UH, STANDARDS IN OUR CITY. AND SO WE REALLY WORKED HARD TO DO THAT FROM THE GET GO. UH, WE HAVE NOT BUDGED ON IMPERVIOUS COVER SINCE THEN. WE'VE REALLY, WE CUT HARD DOWN TO, UH, A WAY THAT WE COULD GET THE DEVELOPMENT IN HERE AND GET THE REDEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME, MAKING A BETTER WATER QUALITY SITUATION. UH, WE ALSO HAVE ASPIRATIONS OF DOING OUR BEST TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO TO BUILD A HEALTHY, UH, AND WELL COMMUNITY HERE. UM, [01:05:01] I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY CLICKER. NO, THERE WE GO. SO SOME OF THE STRATEGIES, AS I MENTIONED, WE REDUCED IMPERVIOUS COVER BY 36%, UH, WHICH WAS A VERY BIG MOVE FROM THE BEGINNING. WE'VE GONE ON TO ADD MORE OF DETAILS AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE'RE WORKING WITH FOUNDATION COMMUNITIES TO TRY TO HELP THEM INTEGRATE A PROJECT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT. UH, WE ANTICIPATE SOMEWHERE AROUND 200 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE, OVER 11 ACRES OF PUBLIC PARK LAND. WE HAD HOPED TO HAVE AN INTENTIONAL TRAILHEAD HERE AS OPPOSED TO THE TRAILHEADS THAT HAVE COME KIND OF AFTER AS AFTERTHOUGHTS AROUND THIS AREA, LIKE THE ONE ON 360 AND THE ONE, UH, IN BARTON, UH, HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN WE ALSO WANTED TO DO OUR BEST TO TRANSPLANT THESE HARDY TREES THAT HAD SURVIVED ON THIS SITE AND MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF IMPERVIOUS COVER AND BRING THEM, UH, INTO MORE PARK-LIKE CONDITIONS WHERE THEY COULD THRIVE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO ABBY TO KIND OF HANDLE SOME DETAILS ON THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE FRONT. THANK YOU. UM, ABBY GILFELLEN, UH, WITH LIONHEART. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING PROGRAM HERE. YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING IN, IN RED. THERE IS IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACES. THERE'S JUST THE SMALL AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT GETS YOU TO THAT 84%. UM, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY DEVELOPED SITE. THE CURRENT ACCESS TO THE GREEN BELT IS REALLY SORT OF, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SOCIAL TRAILS. UM, THERE ARE FOLKS LIVING IN THE GREEN BELT BACK THERE, UM, THAT'S CAUSING EROSION AND DEGRADATE DEGRADATION OF THE GREEN BELT. UM, AND THERE IS NO WILDLIFE HABITAT. UH, SO THIS IS THE PROPOSAL. THIS IS THE, THE PROPOSED PROJECT WHERE YOU HAVE 11.6 ACRES, UM, TOTAL OF, OF PARKLAND WITH SEVEN, 7.7, UH, ACRES CREDITED THE GREEN BELT ACCESS. WE ARE WORKING WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS. YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM, UH, HILL COUNTRY CONSERVANCY IN AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION, WHO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR A WHILE, UM, TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW BEST TO GO ABOUT, UH, FORMALIZING A TRAIL, UH, CONNECTION TO THE BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT TRAIL SYSTEM. THIS AREA IS WITHIN THE BALCONES CANYON LAND PRESERVE. UM, AND SO THE PROCESS THERE WOULD BE TO GO THROUGH THAT, UH, PERMIT PROCESS WITH THE BALCON EAST CANYON LAND, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD BE COMING BACK. UM, IT'S, IT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE PROCESS TO BUILD A NEW TRAIL IN THAT AREA. UM, AND SO WE, THAT PROCESS WOULD ALLOW, WOULD ENABLE US, REQUIRE US TO COME BACK, UH, TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS FISH AND WILDLIFE AND BA CANYON LAND RESERVE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO PERMITTING THAT, THAT TRAIL. UH, SO, SO THAT IS A SEPARATE PROCESS. UM, WILDLIFE HABITAT, THREE ACRES, UM, IS PROPOSED IN THAT AREA, PARTICULARLY THE AREA CLOSEST, UH, TO THE GREEN BELT. OH, AND THEN, UH, PARK DEVELOPMENT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE SLIDES GOT A LITTLE BIT MESSED UP, BUT PARK PARKLAND COMMITMENT, UH, THOMAS COVERED THIS REALLY WELL. UH, WE ARE, UH, ABOUT 29 ACRES IS REQUIRED, 11.6 ACRES ON SITE. WE'RE MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE WITH THAT FEE IN LIEU. UM, AND YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE PARK PROGRAM THERE AND DEVELOPMENT, HOW REALLY, UM, CONNECTING THE SPACE TO THE GREEN BELT AND BRINGING THE GREEN BELT UP INTO THE, INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND WHEN IT COMES TO PARK DEVELOPMENT, UH, WE ARE, UH, REALLY THE, THE DEVELOPMENT THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE, UH, DEVELOPING ALL OF THESE PARK SPACES, UM, AND MAINTAINING THEM OVER TIME AS WELL AS REALLY ACTIVATED, UH, SPACES AND THE CENTRAL FOCAL POINT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, AS THOMAS MENTIONED, THE FIRST THING, THIS, UH, NEARLY ALL THE PARK SPACE, 80% OF IT WILL BE BUILT WITH THE VERY FIRST PERMITS, UH, THAT HAPPEN ON THE SITE. UH, SO, UH, AGAIN, JUST REALLY THAT COMMITMENT TO, TO BUILD THIS PARKS, BUILD THIS DEVELOPMENT AROUND, UH, THIS PARK SPACE. UH, THE 50 PARKING SPACES WILL COME AT THAT TIME AS WELL. AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, MR. ROLLINSON? THAT WAS NOT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION FOR THE ADDITIONAL SLIDES. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE DIAS? I GUESS I COULD START WITH, UH, UH, BOARD MEMBER LEWIS. AND AGAIN, I SEE THAT, UM, FOUR BOARD MEMBER TAYLORS KICKED OFF. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. UM, BOARD MEMBER LEWIS, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YOU'RE MUTED, I BELIEVE. I'M SO SORRY. I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY, CAN [01:10:01] YOU HEAR ME THERE A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. YEAH, I'M HAVING, WHY DON'T I TRY TO SEE IF I CAN FIX THIS AND THEN COME BACK TO ME. I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING INTERNET ISSUES. I HEAR OVER HERE. I VERY WELL, THIS IS A REAL RURAL AREA. OKAY. SORRY. SO PLEASE GO AHEAD, CHAIR AND, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, ON THE DIAS, UH, BOARD MEMBER, DECARLO, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? YES. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE FOR ALL THE PRESENTATIONS. UM, IT'S, UH, REALLY GOOD TO HEAR ALL THE DETAILS OF THIS, UM, PROJECT. I HAD A QUESTION, UM, A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED ON OUR, UH, QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS REPORT. UM, ONE, UM, ASKING ABOUT WHETHER THIS APPLICATION WOULD, UH, COME UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE NEW COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION. AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD ONLY BE ADDITIONAL FEES, UM, IF THEY WERE APPLIED AND THAT PART RECOMMENDED TO, UM, EXEMPT THIS POD FROM THE REQUIREMENTS FOR AT LEAST A YEAR A YEAR'S TIME. UM, SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON, UM, IS PART PROPOSING THAT THEN THOSE ADDITIONAL FEES BE COLLECTED AT THAT TIME OF A YEAR OR MORE LATER? UH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. UH, BOARD MEMBER DECARLO. SO THIS WAS A, A PRETTY DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER. I'LL BE HONEST, BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE SAME TIME THAT WE WERE REVIEWING THIS. SO, UH, SINCE THE COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS DIDN'T EXIST WHEN STAFF WAS REVIEWING IT, UM, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT THAT CAME UP AS PART OF THE, THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANTS. SO GIVEN THAT THIS PROJECT'S BEEN IN REVIEW FOR TWO, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THREE PLUS YEARS NOW, UM, STAFF DISCUSSED IT MYSELF AND, UH, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION PROGRAM MANAGER, ANNIE SCOTT, FELT THAT IT WOULD BE FAIR PER STAFF'S OPINION TO GIVE THE APPLICANT TIME, MAYBE EXEMPT THEM FOR A PERIOD DEPENDING ON HOW FAR ALONG IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT CYCLE THEY ARE. SO IF THEY, YOU KNOW, FINISH THEIR PERMITTING WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO YEARS, THEN THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO FULFILL THE COMMERCIAL ELEMENTS. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SORT OF VESTED TO PARKLAND DEDICATION AS IT WAS REVIEWED BY STAFF BEFORE THOSE COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENTS CAME INTO EFFECT. BUT, UH, WE DON'T REALLY LIKE TO VEST, UH, PUT ORDINANCES FOR A VERY LONG TIME TO A SET OF CODE REQUIREMENTS. SO, SO IT'D BE SORT OF SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE DONE OTHER PODS, NOT, NOT TO GET TO IN THE WEEDS HERE, BUT, UH, IT WOULD, I WAS THINKING IT COULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'D BE VESTED TO PARKLAND DEDICATION AS IT EXISTED, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR. AND IF THE APPLICANT DID NOT DEVELOP THE SITE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, THEN THOSE REQUIREMENTS WOULD COME INTO EFFECTIVE, EFFECTIVELY, IT WOULD MOVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE UP, UH, FURTHER INTO THE FUTURE, THE LONGER THE, THE APPLICANT WAITED TO, UM, FULFILL THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT WAS CONTEMPLATED. DOES, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I REALIZE IT'S KIND OF A TECHNICAL ANSWER. YEAH, . I THINK SO , THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR TRYING THOUGH, AND PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION. UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT WAS MY, UH, ONLY QUESTION FOR RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER. ALDI, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UM, YEAH, THANK YOU. UM, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, ABOUT WHAT, UM, WE HEARD FROM THE SPEAKERS ABOUT THE LAND, UM, STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE PARKLAND. UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INFORMATION WE HAVE ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT, BUT I'M REALLY INTERESTED JUST IF YOU COULD PAINT US A PICTURE OF HOW CAN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE BE INCORPORATED INTO PARKLAND IN A WAY THAT'S ALSO KIND OF RECREATIONAL. AND ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT MIGHT THIS PROPOSED STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE LOOK LIKE IN, IN THESE PARKS? ABSOLUTELY. UH, SO WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR US TO CO-LOCATE PARKLAND WITH STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'VE, WE'VE DONE IT IN A NUMBER OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. I MEAN, SOME EXAMPLES THAT COME TO THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS GOODNIGHT RANCH, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, BIOS, WHALES, RAIN GARDENS. THERE'S ALSO REGIONAL POND THAT WERE ALL DESIGNED AS, UH, RECREATIONAL AMENITIES. SO THIS IS SOMETHING SIMILAR, ALTHOUGH I DO THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, THEY ACTUALLY PUT THE PONDS UNDERGROUND, SO IT WOULD LEAVE THE SURFACE COMPLETELY FREE FOR RECREATION. UM, AND THEY RECEIVE GREATER CREDIT. [01:15:01] THE MORE STUFF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, USE THE PARKLAND FOR. SO IN THIS INSTANCE, I THINK WE, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, THE, THE FACT THAT IT WOULD BE UNDERGROUND, UH, POSED, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING VALUABLE TO US WHERE IT WAS KIND OF A WIN-WIN WHERE WE COULD STILL USE THE SURFACE FOR, YOU KNOW, A SUITE OF RECREATIONAL AMENITIES AND NOT AFFECT THEIR STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE WHATSOEVER. UH, THE RE IRRIGATION I THINK IS A LITTLE, UH, TOUCHIER WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ACTUALLY SPRAY HEADS, UH, THAT WOULD BE RUNNING OCCASIONALLY, UH, VERY SELDOM. I THINK THE CIVIL FOR THE APPLICANT COULD PROBABLY TALK TO THAT A LITTLE BETTER THAN I, BUT ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE SPRAYING WATER PERIODICALLY AFTER MAJOR STORM EVENTS AND BASICALLY WE'D HAVE TO DESIGN THE SITE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT WOULDN'T BE, THERE WOULDN'T BE AMENITIES THAT WOULD NECESSARILY GET NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF AMENITIES THAT WE CAN USE WITH RE IRRIGATION. AND THOSE ARE LISTED, UH, IN THE AMENITIES LIST THAT I HAD IN THE PRESENTATION. SO TRAILS TRAIL, PERS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF FACILITIES THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE, UH, UH, THE RIGHT FIT FOR RE IRRIGATION ARE PROBABLY THINGS LIKE PLAYSCAPES, UM, THINGS THAT REQUIRE GREATER MAINTENANCE, BUT THOSE AREN'T PROPOSED TO BE, UH, CO-LOCATED WITH THE RE IRRIGATION. AND THE RE IRRIGATION WOULD REALLY BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF, I THINK TWO AND A HALF ACRES. AND THE APPLICANTS, UH, AS I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, BELIEVES THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THAT TO HARDLY ANY RE IRRIGATION. OKAY. AND MORE ABOUT, OH, SORRY. YEAH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE WHAT YOU MEAN IN BY RE IRRIGATION? SO ESSENTIALLY IT'D BE STORM WATER THAT WOULD, UH, COME OUT OF SPRAY HEADS, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO IRRIGATION, BUT IT WOULD BE STORM WATER THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, UM, COLLECTED AND TREATED WITHIN THOSE UNDERGROUND PONDS. AND SO THEN YOU CAN USE THAT TO IRRIGATE ON THE SITE. IT THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S PRETTY COOL. UM, OKAY, SO WE'VE HAD A, UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF REFERENCES TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DENSITY AT THIS SITE, AND I REM I REMEMBER THE REFERENCE TO THE 200 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM FOUNDATION COMMUNITIES. CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY ON WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS WILL BE? UH, SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSED, UH, 1,700 UNITS. SO 200 OF THOSE WOULD BE, UM, THE AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND, AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS. SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY ANY FEE IN LIE FOR THOSE UNITS. AND ESSENTIALLY THE WAY THAT THE, THIS APPLICATION SET UP IS, UNLESS IT'S OTHERWISE SPECIFIED IN THE, UH, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE EXHIBITS, THEY'RE JUST GONNA COMPLY WITH CURRENT CODE. SO, UM, CURRENT CODE, AS IT WAS PROPOSED BY COUNCIL RECENTLY, THOSE UNITS WOULD BE EXEMPT MM-HMM. FROM PAYING ANY ADDITIONAL FEES. OKAY. UM, AND FINALLY, UM, YOU REFERENCED THIS A LITTLE BIT IN THE, THE QUESTION AND ANSWER REPORT THAT WE GOT. UM, BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WITH THIS, THE 76% OF THE FEE IN LIE REMAINING. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO USE THAT IN HELPING TO DEVELOP AMENITIES LIKE THE TRAILHEAD, FOR EXAMPLE? YOU KNOW, ARE THOSE, LIKE HOW MUCH OF THAT IS GONNA BE FOR DEVELOPMENT VERSUS FOR ACQUIRING NEW PARKLAND ELSEWHERE? SO, UH, THE FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED WILL COMPLY WITH HOW WE CURRENTLY EXPAND OUR PARK LINE DEDICATION FEES. SO RIGHT NOW, UM, ANY FEES COLLECTED FOR FEE IN LU, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME THAT THEY, THE APPLICANT FILES THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, WE WOULD COLLECT THOSE FEES AND THEN THEY'D BE HELD FOR A MINIMUM OF ONE YEAR WHERE STAFF WOULD BE REQUIRED TO EXPEND THEM EXCLUSIVELY ON ANY PARK ACQUISITIONS THAT COMPLY WITH OUR, UH, LOCATION CRITERIA. SO WE'RE ONLY ABLE TO, UH, PURCHASE PARKLAND WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE, UH, PRIORITIZING. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE DEDICATING THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS. UH, HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE NO, UH, PARK, UH, SPACES OR PARKLANDS THAT WE HAVEN'T ACQUIRED THAT AND WE CAN'T FIND ANY IN THE AREA, THEN THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THOSE TOWARDS, UH, PARK AMENITIES AND PARK INVESTMENTS AND PARK FACILITIES. UH, BUT THAT'S USUALLY AFTER ONE YEAR'S TIME. SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE USE THOSE FEES TOWARDS SOME OF THE PARK INVESTMENTS, BUT REALLY THE, THE FEES IN LIEU WOULD BE COLLECTED WITH THE INTENT TO PURCHASE PARKLAND FIRST AND FOREMOST. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. WELL THANK YOU FOR THE VERY INTERESTING PRESENTATIONS. UM, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS AN IMAGINED AUSTIN ACTIVITY CENTER, SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING. UM, AND IT, YEAH. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, YEAH, A LOT OF THOUGHT HAS GONE INTO THIS AND I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT, UM, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO ASK ABOUT. OKAY. BOARD MEMBER FLOWERS. YEAH. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS RELATED TO THINGS YOU'VE ALREADY PROVIDED. UM, SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE QUICK. UM, THE FIRST ONE RELATES TO PARKING. [01:20:01] UM, SO PARKING FOR THIS SITE, I UNDERSTAND THE 50 SPACES FOR PARK ACCESS, AND I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THE PLAN IS THAT THOSE WILL BE NO COST. IS THAT, UH, THE IDEA OR IT'S UNDETERMINED AT THIS TIME? THAT'S WHAT WE'VE, UH, CONTEMPLATED. WE, WE REALLY WANTED TO HAVE THE 50 RESERVED PARKING SPACES, UH, FOR PARK USERS. UH, PART HAS NOT PROPOSED THEM AT ANY KIND OF COST, UH, REALLY TO SORT OF HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE PARKING DEMANDS THAT WE'VE SEEN ON THE BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT. SO THIS WAS A BIG ASK FROM US, UH, THAT WE WERE REALLY HAPPY THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO FULFILL. UM, SO ULTIMATELY THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, PARKING TRAIL HEADS THAT WE HAVE ALONG THE GREEN BELT ARE OVER CAPACITY RIGHT NOW. SO, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO INCLUDE THOSE WITHIN THIS POD IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON, UH, SOME OF THOSE PARKING DEMANDS. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN, UH, JUST KIND OF A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT, UH, THAT ADDITIONAL SPACES BEYOND 50 MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, BUT FOR A COST, CORRECT? IT WOULD BE PART OF THE LARGER PARKING DISTRICT. UH, THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK MORE TO THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT THAT THEY'VE GOT SET UP FOR THAT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE ONE BIG PARKING DISTRICT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE SHOPPING OR YOU LIVE THERE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PARK. AND THAT'S TRUE FOR ANY PARK USERS BEYOND THOSE 50 SPACES TOO? I'M, I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, SO SECOND QUESTION, UH, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM RELATED TO ACCESS TO THE SITE, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE PARKLAND ACCESS PIECE AND THAT THERE'LL BE ACCESS TO THE TRAIL AND THE PARKING SPACES, BUT IN GENERAL FOR THE WHOLE OF THE SITE, ARE THERE ANY PRIVATE ROADS OR PRIVATE ACCESS OUTSIDE OF OBVIOUSLY PRIVATE APARTMENT HOMES THAT PEOPLE WON'T BE ABLE TO ENTER UNLESS THEY LIVE THERE, BUT OTHERWISE IS IT A FULLY PUBLIC SITE OR WILL THERE BE ANY AREAS THAT SOMEONE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT WE'RE NOT PRIVATE HOMES? UH, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. NO. THE, ALL THE PARKLAND'S GONNA BE PUBLICLY DEDICATED, UM, AND CITY OWNED. UM, UH, ONE CLARIFICATION THOUGH IS THAT THE, THE ROADS AREN'T GONNA BE DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU WERE PICKING UP ON, BUT THEY'RE STILL GONNA BE ROADS OWNED BY THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE, UM, IN PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENTS, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE FULLY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE. YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT. OKAY. SO THOUGH THAT THEY'RE PRIVATELY OWNED ROADS, THERE'S NO PLAN OR INTENTION THAT THEY WOULD BE CLOSED AT ANY TIME OR, YES. OKAY, PERFECT. NO, AND, AND THE APPLICATION, UH, SPECIFIES TOO THAT LIKE GATES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS, UH, FORBID. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. UH, BOARD MEMBER HUG ROOM, DID YOU HAVE ANY? YES. UM, I, I LOVE THE PLAN AND IT'S, IT'S CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. I HAVE HIKED IN THAT GREEN BELT AND UP THAT HILL AND IT IS SUCH A DIFFERENT ELEVATION. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHEN YOU'RE STANDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED AT THE EDGE, YOU'RE ON A PRECIPICE THAT CRATERS DOWN. AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW, HOW WE CAN MAKE, YOU KNOW, BRIDGE THAT GAP. YOU ALMOST NEED A SKI LIFT THERE, HONESTLY. I MEAN, IT'S NOT A HILL MOST PEOPLE CAN HIKE UP. SO, AND MAYBE IT'S MORE OF A, A, A TRAIL QUESTION. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE THINKING, BUT TO CALL THAT AN AMENITY, TO SELL IT THAT WAY, UM, AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO USE THAT GREEN BELT, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE. IT, IT REALLY IS LIKE STANDING ON THE EDGE OF A CLIFF. UH, I CAN RESPOND TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. UH, SO THE, THE PARK LINE THAT THE APPLICANTS ARE GOING TO BE DEDICATING, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, ALMOST ENTIRELY FLAT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AREA THAT'LL HAVE, UM, SOME GRADING THAT'S OVER 10% SLOPE. BUT OTHERWISE THE PARKS THAT THEY'RE DEDICATING ARE ALL GONNA BE FLATTENED. THEY'LL COMPLY WITH ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS, TEXAS ADA. UM, AS FAR AS THE EXISTING BARTON CREEK CREEK BUILT, I, I AGREE THAT IT IS A CHALLENGE. UM, THEY'LL ALSO BE AN ADDITIONAL KIND OF ACCESS TRAIL ALONG THE, UM, SIDE ROAD BETWEEN LOOP 360 YEAH. AND THE EXISTING PARKLAND. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN ADDITIONAL ACCESS ROUTE INTO THE GREEN BELT, DOWN TO THE OTHER PARKING CENTER I MENTIONED. BUT AS FAR AS THE PARKLAND THAT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S, THAT IS GOING TO BE ALL ACCESSIBLE. THANK YOU. I, UM, THE 50 PARKING SPACES, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PARKING SPACES FOR THAT SMALL OF A PARK. UM, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE 50 PARKING SPACES ARE, ARE BEING THOUGHT OF AS LET'S ALLOW PEOPLE TO ENTER THE GREEN BELT HERE. BUT, UM, I'VE HIKED UP THAT LITTLE ACCESS ROAD AND, UM, IT, IT IS, IT'S NOT AN EASY THING. SO I'VE JUST, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN, UM, HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT LAND MORE ACCESSIBLE. SO MAYBE STAIRWAYS, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT, WELL, WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? I SEE YOU NODDING YOUR HEAD OVER THERE. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HILL COUNTRY CONSERVANCY [01:25:01] IN AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION. THEY HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, WE'VE HIKED WITH THEM DOWN TO THE GREEN BELT. UH, THE PLAN IS THAT COLLECTIVELY WE WOULD COME UP WITH A TRAIL ALIGNMENT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST TRAIL ALIGNMENT TO GET PEOPLE DOWN TO THE GREEN BELT. UM, AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THE BLESSING OF THE BA COASE CANYON LAND TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND, UH, PROBABLY ALSO CLEAN UP SOME OF THE OTHER SOCIAL TRAILS THAT ARE IN THE AREA AS WELL. SO I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND HAVING HIKED UP AND DOWN THAT MULTIPLE TIMES, IT IS A HEAVY LIFT, BUT, UM, BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO GET DOWN THERE AND THEY, UM, THEY ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING SOME ACCESS IN THAT AREA. GOOD. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , THANK YOU. I'M GONNA COME BACK TO VICE CHAIR. YES. SINCE THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT, I'M GONNA GO DOWN TO, UM, DO YOU WANNA GO PAT TO, UH, BOARD MEMBER? BERNARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, UH, BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA. I, I JUST, I LOVE THE PROJECT AND SO THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A MILE AWAY MY OFFICE. AND THEN WHEN I THINK ABOUT BEN WHITE AND GOING OVER TO TWO 90 AND 71 ALL THE WAY TO DISTRICT EIGHT, WHEN WE SEE THIS JUST SO MUCH IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT INTENTION WE HAD WITH THE SOS REDEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE BACK IN THE DAY. BUT WE'VE HAD VERY FEW CASES THAT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY HELPED. AND I THINK THE MORE EXPENSIVE LAND GETS IN HAYES COUNTY AND OF COURSE IN TRAVIS COUNTY, THE MORE DIFFICULT THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DO. SO ANYTHING WE CAN BREAK DOWN WHERE WE DON'T HAVE 80 PLUS PERCENT WORTH IN PERVIOUS COVER AND GOING ALL THE WAY TO OAK KILL WHERE YOU'RE AT IN SOME CASES, I THINK 98% IN PERVIOUS COVER. I MEAN, THIS IS A ROADMAP FOR ME. I, I LOVE THE SITE. UM, AND I'M JUST THRILLED ABOUT IT. I I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT APF AND HILL COUNTRY CONSERVANCY, WE DID RECEIVE THEIR LETTER AND THAT THEY'RE PART OF IT. CAUSE I HAD THIS SIMILAR CONCERNS AS MY BOARD COLLEAGUE, UH, HAD REGARDING HOW DO YOU ACCESS AS A TRAIL POINT AS FAR AS THE 50. I, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO FRAME THE 50 PARKING SPOTS. AND THEN I LOOKED AND, YOU KNOW, I COUNTED DICK NICHOLS PARK AND I THINK THAT'S LIKE 132 PARKING SPOTS. AND SO I WAS LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS MUCH LESS THAN THAN THAT. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I, I FEEL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IF THAT'S A GOOD BAD THING OR A BAD THING, BUT, UM, ULTIMATELY I THINK THE GREEN SPACE IS GONNA BE PHENOMENAL. AND, UM, I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR, I THINK THIS COULD BE A DYNAMIC PROJECT. AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE HAD OTHER SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT THIS IS NOT THE STATESMEN. AND THEY, YOU KNOW, KEPT, THEY KEPT, THIS IS NOT THE STATESMEN, THIS IS NOT THE STATESMEN. AND I LOVE THAT FRAMING OF IT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE STATESMEN. WE'RE SEEING THIS REAL ACTIVE GREEN SPACE. WE'RE SEEING THAT MIXED USE. WE'RE SEEING OPEN AREAS. WE HAVE THREE PARKS. THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE, GOSH, WHAT SHOW IS IT? THERE'S A, I STILL SIDED IT REAL QUICK, BUT THERE'S THAT PROPERTY THAT IS, UM, RIGHT NEXT TO THIS PROJECT, THAT RETREAT AT BARTON CREEK, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW THEY GET A PARK AND IT'S KIND OF APROPO THAT, UH, SPROUTS NOW BECOMES A PARK . SO UNDERNEATH THIS PLAN. SO I, I'M ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT, UH, VOTING FOR IT AND, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT WENT INTO IT. I GUESS THE ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE FOR Y'ALL IS WHAT SORT OF SECURE, BECAUSE THOSE CLIPS, I MEAN, IT'S A HUNDRED FOOT DROP ULTIMATELY, I THINK IN ELEVATION, GOING FROM 700 TO 600 TO LOOK AT LOOKING AT THE TOPOGRAPHY MAPS. WHAT SORT OF SAFETY COMPONENTS DO YOU, ARE WE GONNA PUT IN THERE? SO WHEN WE HAVE THAT ACTIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION SPACE AT THE TOP THAT NOBODY GOES, GOES FLYING OFF, WHETHER IT'S ON A, ON A BICYCLE OR ANYTHING ELSE? I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE QUESTION COMPARED TO THE BIG ONES OUT THERE. COUPLE THOUGHTS. UM, FROM OUR GROUP ONE, THAT 20 FOOT WALL GIVE OR TAKE AROUND IT, WE ARE TAKING THAT DOWN AND WE'RE GRADING UP INTO THE SITE KIND OF MORE, UH, LIKE IT WOULD'VE ORIGINALLY BEEN GRADY, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE NATURAL GRADES WOULD'VE BEEN THERE. SO THAT'S ONE HELPFUL THING TO GET PEOPLE DOWN INTO THE GREEN BELT. UM, THAT WILL ALSO PROVIDE MORE VISIBILITY DOWN INTO THE GREEN BELT FROM, YOU KNOW, STREETS, UH, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE STREETS AND PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE STR UH, PARKS. UH, WHICH I THINK WILL HELP WITH SOME OF THE SECURITY, UH, CHALLENGES IN THAT AREA. UM, AND, UH, I, I ALSO THINK THAT BY HAVING, UH, THE, THE HOPEFUL TRAILS CONNECTION SOMEDAY THROUGH THERE, ONE TRAIL CONNECTION VERSUS MULTIPLE SOCIAL TRAILS THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW THAT WE CAN SIGN THEM, [01:30:01] WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE USING THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS SO THAT THEY DON'T BECOME, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, LITTERED AND, AND UH, AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. SO I THINK THERE'S SOME REAL HELPFULNESS THAT WE CAN HAVE. UM, IN ADDITION, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH PAR TO, UH, AND ARE WILLING TO TAKE ON ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF THE PARK SPACE ON SITE. AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH HOW THAT BLENDS INTO THE GREEN BELT, UH, DOWN BELOW, LIKE WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES COULD BE DOWN THERE AS WELL. WE HAVE A REAL INTEREST IN, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S A SAFE AND, AND CLEAN PLACE AS WELL. SO. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER MORE? NOTHING. OKAY. I, I HAVE A QUESTION. DO YOU WANNA GO LAST OR JUNE? I DID AND SHE SAID NO. UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO? I GOT A QUESTION. UM, SO I HAD, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE UNDER, BECAUSE I JUST WONDER IN THE LAND OF CARST HOW THESE UNDERGROUND PONDS WORK AND HOW THAT IS GONNA NOT DRAIN INTO AND CAUSE MORE EROSION INTO THE CANYON LANDS. HELLO, LESLIE LILLY WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION WITH REGARD TO THE EXCAVATION OF THE UNDERGROUND SOS PONDS THAT ARE PLANNED AND ALL OF THE EXCAVATION FOR THE, UH, THE BUILDING, UH, STRUCTURES. UM, THERE IS A 3D MODEL THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY NICO HOWARD FROM BCP. HE WORKS FOR AUSTIN WATER. AND THAT 3D MODEL IS USED AS A BASIS FOR UNDERSTANDING HOW TO PROTECT THE CAR FEATURES THAT ARE BELOW THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND IN THAT MODEL, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE, UM, ARE SEVERAL LAYERS OF CLAY SOIL TYPES AND A PART OF THE POD. AND ONE OF THE NOTES IS THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND IN THE EXCAVATION OF THOSE PONDS AND OF THE, UH, THE STRUCTURAL SUPPORTS FOR THE BUILDINGS, THAT THERE WILL BE A CONSTANT CHECKING THAT THERE IS NOT, UM, A PENETRATION OF THOSE CLAY LAYERS THAT WOULD THEN IMPACT THE CARS CAVE THAT IS, UH, BELOW THE WHOLE FEATURE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 140 FEET BELOW THE STRUCTURE. SO THAT COOL 3D MODEL IS, UH, AVAILABLE AS A PART OF THE, THE PUT EXHIBITS. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE'RE BEING VERY CAREFUL AND, AND CONSIDERING THE IMPACT TO THAT CARST FEATURE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE IF I GO HOME AND DON'T ASK THIS, MY BICYCLIST HUSBAND IS GONNA ASK, UM, HOW, SO ACCESSIBILITY, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE, THE THING THAT THEY BROUGHT UP, WHICH IS THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THIS. SO THE PARKING SPACES WILL BE THERE SO PEOPLE CAN COME. WHAT IS THE BICYCLE ACCESSIBILITY OF THIS? CAN THEY COME UP THAT TRAIL? THAT'S, UH, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE HOPING TO TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT. THAT GOES DOWN TO THE SERVICE SCULPTURE FALLS THAT, THAT TRAIL THAT'S ALWAYS JUST PEOPLE ARE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. I'M THINKING THAT YOU MIGHT GET SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING TO? UH, YEAH, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, BICYCLE FACILITIES PLANS THROUGHOUT, INCLUDING ALL THE STREETS, THE INTERNAL STREETS TO THE DEVELOPMENTS. AND, UH, PARK BICYCLE PARKING IS ALSO ONE OF THE AMENITIES CONTEMPLATED IN THE LISTS, AMENITIES LIST THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD FOR THE, UM, PRESENTATION. SO I, AND ALSO I THINK Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO TOO, THAT INCLUDES SOME PRETTY HEFTY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CONDITIONS TOO. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO REBECCA, I'M JUST GONNA REPEAT A FEW THINGS HE SAID, BUT, UM, SO SOUTH LAMAR IS PART OF ONE OF THE CORRIDOR, UH, THAT, THAT THE CITY IS WORKING ON WITH THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM OFFICE. THEIR IMPROVEMENTS STOP NORTH OF OUR SITE AND WE ARE TAKING IT ALL THE WAY TO 360. SO THERE WILL BE A SHARED USE PATH THERE AND THERE WILL BE SIDEWALK FACILITIES AND, AND A BUST STOP, A NEW TRANSIT STOP, UH, RIGHT ADJACENT TO OUR SITE. IN ADDITION, FROM THE TRAILHEAD THAT'S CURRENTLY DOWN, UH, IN THE OFFICE, UH, AREA, THERE WILL BE A BRAND NEW SHARED USE PATH BROUGHT UP TO THE SITE. UM, AND THIS WILL BE ON THE TECH DOT SIDE OF THE ROAD. UH, SO THAT WE AREN'T, UM, UM, WE, WE CAN'T FIT IT QUITE IN THE EASEMENT THAT'S THERE. IT'S ONLY 40 FEET WIDE. UM, AND WE DON'T WANNA GO INTO THE BECKON CANYON LAND WITH ANY, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET ANY MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER IN THERE. SO WE WILL HAVE A SHARED USE PATH IN THE TECH DOT RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN, UH, THERE IS A SHARED USE PATH THAT CONNECTS THAT ONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR SITE TO SOUTH LAMAR. THERE'S TWO OF THEM ACTUALLY. THERE'S THE SHARED USE PATH ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO THE GREEN SPACE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO CYCLE TRACKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE MAIN INTERNAL CIRCULATOR ROUTE. AND I, THERE'S LOTS OF BIKE FACILITIES. THANK YOU. AND I ASSUME SIGNAGE TOO FOR PEOPLE TO FIGURE HOW TO GET PLACES. MM-HMM. . OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. [01:35:01] UM, SO BOARD MEMBER, I MEAN VICE CHAIR VAL PLEASE. THANKS. UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE SORT OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. YEAH. COUPLE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, I DID WANNA JUST SHOW AND TELL SOMETHING REALLY QUICK. TIM, DO YOU HAVE THAT PRESENTATION THAT I SENT EARLIER TODAY? CAN YOU PULL THAT UP? CUZ WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CARST. UM, AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THE, THAT WAS UM, A REPORT THAT WAS DONE BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND THIS IS REALLY JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE HOW COOL THE UH, CAVE AND THE CARS THAT LIE THAT YOU KNOW, ARE PART OF OUR PARK SYSTEM. THE OPENING OF THE AIRMAN'S CAVE IS IN THE BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT AND IT THEN REACHES UP UNDERNEATH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND UNDERNEATH UM, SOME OF THE HIGHWAY INTERSECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. SO IF YOU JUST GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS REPORT WAS DONE BY NICO HOWARD PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, HE'S ONE OF OUR CARS EXPERTS WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND I JUST WANTED TO SHOW Y'ALL THIS. THIS WAS ATTACHED TO THE, UH, RODEOS PUT APPLICATION. IT WASN'T IN OUR PRESENTATION MATERIALS, BUT SO THAT'S THE ENTRANCE TO THE CAVE. THAT'S SOMEBODY IN 1971. THEY WERE UM, I GUESS CLEANING IT OUT, THERE'S SOMEBODY SQUEEZING THROUGH NEXT SLIDE THAT SHOWS YOU THE MAP. UM, UP AT THE TOP IT SHOWS YOU THE ENTRANCE TO THE CAVE IS RIGHT THERE ALONG THE CREEK. IT COMES ALL THE WAY UP UNDERNEATH THE APARTMENTS, UNDERNEATH THE SHOPPING CENTER AND ALL THE WAY UNDERNEATH THIS HIGHWAY SYSTEM. WOW. UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST AMAZING. CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THIS IS AIRMAN'S CAVE. UM, THIS IS SOME OF THE FEATURES INSIDE THE CAVE. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS KIND OF SHOWING YOU UNDERNEATH THE UNDERPASS, LIKE WHAT THE UNDERWORLD LOOKS LIKE DOWN THERE. UH, NEXT SLIDE. UM, JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF UH, WHAT'S GOING ON UNDERNEATH NEXT. UM, OH THIS SLIDE AND THEN THE NEXT ONE THEY'RE SHOWING YOU DOWN IN THE GREEN BELT, SOME OF THE GROUNDWATER THAT EMERGES, SOME SPRING FLOW. AND SO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, THIS LADY SITTING NEXT TO A SPRING THAT EMERGES THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CAVE FORMATION AND THEN GROUNDWATER FLOWING THROUGH THE ENTRANCE IS THE BOTTOM. SO, UM, IN FACT IN ALL THE APPLICATION COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, AS WAS MENTIONED NICO WORKED AT THE APPLICANT AND THEY DEVELOPED, UM, MEASURES TO DO THE EXCAVATION AND LIMITING THE DEPTHS. BUT I JUST THOUGHT LIKE THIS WAS TOO COOL, NOT FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE AND THINK ABOUT NEXT TIME YOU'RE DRIVING LIKE UNDERNEATH TWO 90 AND 360 AND THAT ONE LANE THAT GETS YOU ALL THE WAY TO SOUTH MOPAC OR WHATEVER, LIKE THINK ABOUT WHAT'S UNDERNEATH. SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME DO THAT. UM, SO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. UM, TOM, I AM A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT THE ACTUAL CREDIT AND THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE IN THE DEDICATED PARKLAND THAT WILL HAVE THE STORM WATER FACILITIES AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. SO IT'S 11.6 ACRES GROSS DEDICATED PARK LAND? THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN YOU SAY 7.6 ACRES CREDITED AND THEN 6.5 ACRES WILL HAVE RE IRRIGATION OR UNDERGROUND PONDS? YEAH, SO THE, THAT 6.5 WOULD RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, 50% CREDITS UP UP TO 50% CREDITS. UM, AND THE POSSIBILITY FOR, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY, UH, AMENITIES THAT COULD BE PROVIDED ON THE SURFACE, POTENTIALLY MORE THAN 50%, BUT REALLY IT THAT 6.5 GROSS ACRES OF STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S LIKE A MAXIMUM THAT THEY CAN GO UP TO. SO THAT WOULD RECEIVE A, A 50% CREDIT, UM, SO LONG AS IT WAS DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT ALLOWED AMENITIES. UM, BY A 50% CREDIT YOU MEAN IT'S THEN YOU GET 3.25 ACRES CREDIT AND YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE ANOTHER 3.25 ACRES? YEAH, THAT THERE IS AN EXHIBIT, UM, THE OPEN SPACE EXHIBITS THAT MAYBE WE COULD PULL UP IF THAT'D BE HELPFUL. AND ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW, CUZ YOU SAID THAT WOULD BE A MAXIMUM AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I THINK ABOUT IT. WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY CAN DO. SO YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED THAT THAT IS THE SITUATION. THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. I'M SORRY, I JUST THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL. SURE. UM, YEAH, IF YOU COULD SCROLL TO THE, THE OPEN SPACE AND, AND PARK'S EXHIBIT CUZ IT BREAKS DOWN THE, THE TABLE QUITE WELL. UH, CONTINUE. UM, NEXT SLIDE. UH, YES, THIS IS THE ONE. SO IF YOU COULD ZOOM IN ON THAT PARKLAND CREDIT CALCULATION TABLE. CAN YOU SEE IT FROM HERE? I, I DON'T THINK IT'S CHANGED RADICALLY FROM THE SLIGHTLY UPDATED, UM, EXHIBITS THAT I SENT, BUT, SO THIS BREAKS IT ALL OUT FROM, YOU SEE LIKE THE TOTAL ACRES IS THE 11.6, [01:40:01] THEN YOU HAVE WHAT'S UNENCUMBERED THEN THE, UM, WATER QUALITY SYSTEMS AND EASEMENTS. AND THERE'S A NOTE AT THE BOTTOM THAT SORT OF EXPLAINS THAT, THAT MAXIMUM THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO THE, THE APPLICANTS, UH, STATED THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE MOST THAT THEY WOULD EVER REQUIRE. THEY CANNOT EXCEED THAT, BUT THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE QUITE A BIT LESS DEPENDING ON THEIR STORM WATER MODELING AND REDUCTIONS, UH, BASED ON STORM, ADDITIONAL STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE TO BASICALLY REDUCE THE RE IRRIGATION BY I BELIEVE TWO AND A HALF ACRES. UH, SO, SO THAT'S HOW THE CREDITING, UH, PROPOSED HERE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE AREAS THAT ARE SLOPES OVER 10%. UM, THERE'S NO FLOOD PLAIN CRITICAL R QUALITY. AND THEN, UM, THE FAR TWO RIGHT COLUMNS ARE THE TOTAL ENCUMBERED AND THEN THE, THE MINIMUM CREDITED ACRES THAT, UH, THEY NEED TO ACHIEVE AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO TOTAL ENCUMBERED IS 8.1. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN TOTAL ENCUMBERED AND CREDITED ACRES? SO THE, THE TOTAL ENCUMBERED IS, UM, LET ME SEE HERE. I THINK THAT'S THE TOTAL ENCUMBERED BEFORE THE CREDIT AND THEN AFTER THE CREDIT MM-HMM. . SO IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THERE'S FOUR ACRES THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SORT OF ENCUMBRANCE? YEAH, SO I THINK THE, THE TOTAL PROPOSED UNENCUMBERED HERE, UH, MINIMUM TOTAL ENCUMBERED THAT THEY NEED TO ACHIEVE HERE AS PROPOSED IS UH, 3.5 ACRES. OKAY. WHAT'S THE TOTAL, HOW MANY ACRES IS THE WHOLE SITE? THE, THE WHOLE SITE IS, UH, THE ENTIRE SITE I BELIEVE IS UH, 37 ACRES. THE ENTIRE GROWTH SITE AREA. AND THEN THE TOTAL ACRES OF PARKLAND GROSS WITHOUT ANY CREDIT IS 11.6 ACRES. YEAH. SO I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE BE ABLE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH LAND IS ACTUAL PARK LAND THAT'S NOT SERVING ANY OTHER PURPOSE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE WATER QUALITY FEATURES ARE GOING TO BE AT THIS TIME, AS WAS MENTIONED. SOME CAN BE AMENITY STYLE AND OTHERS AREN'T. UM, SO IT, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I THINK I DID, I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT NOW THAT I KNOW THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF FREE AND CLEAR STRAIGHT UP PARK ACRES. SO, UM, THAT REMINDS ME A POINT. YES. JUMP IN THERE REAL QUICK, QUICKLY PLEASE. OKAY. I, I THINK ONE OF THE CONFUSING PARTS FOR OUR TEAM HAS BEEN THAT WE ARE TRYING TO, UM, ADDRESS THE WATER FORWARD PLAN AND DOING A WHOLE LOT OF WATER CAPTURE AND REUSE ON SITE, WHICH IS NEW. AND UM, SO IN TERMS OF THE, THE RAINWATER CALCULATIONS AND EVERYTHING FOR THE PURPOSES OF SOS AND THE, AND YOU KNOW, STORAGE PONDS AND IRRIGATION THAT'S CREATED, YOU KNOW, UH, NEW THINGS TO, TO THINK ABOUT AND TO GO OVER WITH STAFF AND I KNOW THEIR TECHNICAL UH, STAFF IS REALLY WORKING HARD ON THAT. SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THERE, BESIDES THE STEEP SLOPES, THERE REALLY WON'T BE ANY ENCUMBERED LAND ON HERE AND THAT IS 0.7, UH, ACRES. SO IT MIGHT BE THAT WE HAVE 0.7 ACRES OF ENCUMBERED LAND BECAUSE THE STORM WATER PONDS WOULD BE UNDERGROUND IN THESE STORAGE VAULTS AND WE MAY NOT ANY RE IRRIGATION SPACE AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT THAT'S STILL BEING WORKED OUT IN DETAIL, UM, ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE. UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. THESE ARE ALL MAXIMUM SHOWING THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IF WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE RE IRRIGATION ON SITE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT USING, YOU KNOW, THE WATER UH, UP FOR WATER, UH, FOR THE WATER FORWARD PLAN THAT WE MAY NEED 2.5 ACRES OF RE IRRIGATION IN ADDITION TO THE THREE ACRES. SO, OKAY, THANKS. UM, SO WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS JUST AN OVERALL COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT IT IS UM, A LITTLE BIT STRANGE TO ME JUST, I'VE BEEN ON THE PARKS BOARD FOR LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, ALMOST TWO YEARS, FEELS LIKE A LITTLE LONGER, BUT, UM, THAT THIS IS THE PROCESS WE HAVE FOR APPROVING LIKE A MAJOR NEW TRAILHEAD TO THE BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT. AND THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T AGAINST THE APPLICANTS AT ALL. WHAT I'M JUST SEEING IS LIKE WE GO THROUGH THESE REALLY ELABORATE VISION PLANS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS ON LOCATING LIKE REALLY MINOR PARK FACILITIES. AND SO IT WAS JUST KIND OF SURPRISING TO ME THAT THIS COMES UP AS A ZONING CASE [01:45:01] AND THAT THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LARGER VISION PROCESS FOR THE BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT AND LIKE REALLY THOSE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS WE HAVE WHERE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, WE DO SMALL GROUP AND THEN OPEN FORUMS AND JUST SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE COME IN HERE. UM, YOU, I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP THE EXAMPLE THE WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENWAY HAD THIS, YOU KNOW, INTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, THE VISIONING PROCESS FOR THAT. AND EVEN WHEN WE VOTE ON IT THEY SAID OH NO, EVERYTHING ELSE WILL HAVE ANOTHER SET OF APPROVALS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS. AND SO LIKE PROCESS WISE IT'S ODD TO ME THAT THIS IS HOW THIS COMES UP AND THIS IS KIND OF THE ONLY PROCESS FOR IT. UM, AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT YES THEY'LL BE SUBJECT TO UH, YOU KNOW, FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND PERMITTING THROUGH THE B C C P, BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF JUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND VISION FOR THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT. UM, SO JUST, THAT WAS JUST A NOTE I HAD THAT I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING IN OUR OVERALL PROCESSES CUZ THIS JUST COMES UP AS A ZONING CASE. WOULD YOU BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE ASKED TO BE WRITTEN INTO THE POD, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE TO DO? UH, MAYBE, LET ME THINK ABOUT IT. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I THINK THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE PROCESSES WE CURRENTLY HAVE LAID OUT AND WE CAN CERTAINLY, YEAH, I MEAN I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK FOR SOME ENGAGEMENT, BUT I JUST THINK, AND I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER CONTEXTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE COULD BUY LAND ADJACENT TO THE GREEN BELT AND THEN BE LIKE, AND I'M PUTTING A TRAIL IN AND IT'S GONNA BE GREAT. AND I MEAN THIS IS A, IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS LARGER DEVELOPMENT, UM, PEOPLE SEEM TO BE INTERESTED IN THE IDEA BUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NEXT AND WHERE DOES IT START AND STOP I THINK HOW DO WE GET THE OTHER ENTRANCES THAT WE HAVE? HOW DO WE DECIDE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE? HOW SHOULD WE DECIDE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE? AND IT'S COME UP TONIGHT THAT THIS IS QUITE A STEEP, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE ISSUES IF THIS APPROPRIATE ENTRY. UM, I WANNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO A COUPLE OTHER POINTS. SO LET'S KIND OF, CAN I FOLLOW UP REALLY QUICKLY ON, I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD POINT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DECIDE WHERE WE UM, PUT NEW ENTRANCES TO THESE MAJOR PARKS? AND I THINK THIS IS A KIND OF A SPECIAL CASE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN SET THE PRECEDENT FOR UM, YOU KNOW, PRESUMABLY WE, WHEN WE PASSED THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN, WE CHOSE TO PUT AN ACTIVITY CENTER HERE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ENVISION AS BIG POPULATION CENTERS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT KNOWING THAT IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE BAR CREEK GREEN BELT. SO I THINK THAT UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY NOT EVERY SINGLE IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CENTER IS NEAR TO A MAJOR PARK LIKE THIS, BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT MAY BE WHERE THIS UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA IS COMING FROM THAT. UM, IT'S UM, I I THINK IT WOULD BE KIND OF WEIRD TO HAVE AN ACTIVITY CENTER THERE AND THEN SAY WELL WE'RE GONNA SEAL IT OFF FROM THIS BIG HUGE, THIS 83 PARK. I GET WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I THINK AGREE ABOUT AS FAR AS THE, THE USE FROM THE STREET. BUT WE DO HAVE VISION PLANS FOR, I JUST GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENWAY WHICH IS ALL ABOUT USING A NATURAL AREA AND WE DO HAVE 'EM FOR A LOT OF OTHER AREAS AND I, THERE'S NO REFERENCE TO ONE FOR HERE. UM, THE ONLY THING I KNOW OF IS THE VIOLET CROWN TRAIL. YOU KNOW, THEY DID SOME PLANNING BUT THEY REALLY DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS SEGMENT CUZ IT WAS REALLY LOOKING MORE AT THE EXTENSION SEGMENTS. I WAS GONNA MENTION IN, YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE IT IN THE LONG RANGE PLAN THOUGH. WHAT? IMAGINE AUSTIN NO OUR OUR PARK LONG RANGE PLAN. WE HAVE EXACTLY WHAT HAVE ASKING FOR YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ACCESS. YEAH. AND SHOWS IT IN THAT AREA AND IT EVEN SAYS UNDER BARN CREEK IMPROVED ACCESS POINT SIGNAGE WAY FINDING FOR CENTRAL, THEN IT HIGHLIGHTS PARKS WITH RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS AND IT SHOWS WELL WHAT LOOKS LIKE THAT PARCEL RIGHT OFF SOUTH THE MALL. EXCELLENT. I WISH STAFF HAD KNOWN THAT ONE I'D ASKED THEM EARLIER CUZ THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO KNOW AND THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO STAFF. IT'S LIKE I WISH THEY DID BECAUSE THEN I WOULDN'T HAVE ASKED THE QUESTION AND COME WITH IT CUZ IT SHOULD BE THE PLAN'S ONLINE TOO. WELL THANK YOU FOR POINT THAT OUT. I APPRECIATE IT. I DID ALSO WANNA ASK, WE, WE HAVE A CONTRACT OUT RIGHT NOW FOR THIS UM, NATURAL AREAS LAND MANAGEMENT PLAN AND I WAS WANTING TO ASK STAFF IF THIS THAT CONTRACT CAN, YOU KNOW, BE LOOKING AT THIS NEW ACCESS ALSO BECAUSE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE IMPACTS AND HOW WE'RE MANAGING LANDS AND THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THAT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL WITHIN WHAT WE'RE PAYING UNDER THAT PROPOSAL. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AS WE LOOK TOWARD THE ACTUAL CREATION OF THIS, THE, THE TRAIL THAT UH, THE APPLICANTS HAVE MENTIONED THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE HILL COUNTRY CONSERVANCY, AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION, WE'D ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO HAVE THAT INCLUDED [01:50:01] AS AS PART OF THAT UH, PLAYING PROCESS. YEAH. WELL THANKS VERY MUCH AND AGAIN RICH, THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT. IT'S UNFORTU LIKE NOBODY I'VE TALKED TO HAS BEEN ABLE TO CITE ME TO THAT SO. UM, SO ANOTHER POINT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UM, I'VE GOT, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE GREEN BELT AND THE IMPACTS. I THINK IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHAT WE HEARD, WHAT I HEARD FROM SOME OTHER PEOPLE IS LIKE QUESTIONS ABOUT ARE PEOPLE GONNA BE ABLE TO USE THIS? AND MY CONCERN IS REALLY ABOUT THE INCREASED USE. I MEAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1700 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THIS IS ALREADY LIKE A VERY OVERUSED, THE 360 ACCESS WHICH IS RIGHT BELOW THE HILL IS A VERY OVERUSED AREA. IT'S ALSO ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE SEE JUST RAMPANT OFF-LEASH DOG, UM, USE. I MEAN THERE'S WENT THERE ON SUNDAY TO WALK AROUND THE SHOPPING CENTER AND MAKE SURE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, TAKE A WALK DOWN THE ACCESS AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T SEE A DOG ON A LEASH. WE SAW A LOT OF DOGS ROAMING FREE AND IN FACT THERE WAS LIKE ONE REALLY TERRIFYING INCIDENT, I'M SORRY THAT THIS DOG LIKE SNAPPED RIGHT UP ON MY FIVE YEAR OLD'S FACE AND I HAD TO, YOU KNOW, GET BACK AND YELL AND IT'S LIKE WELCOME TO THE GREEN BELT KIDS. IT'S NATURE, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS, WE WERE FINE AND WE PROCEEDED BUT IT'S LIKE NOT A GREAT WAY TO START A HIKE WITH LITTLE KIDS, BUT THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS DOWN THERE. THE DOGS RUN AHEAD OF THE OWNER AND THEY'RE PROTECTING THE OWNER CUZ THEY'RE DOGS, YOU KNOW? AND MY KIDS HAD STEPPED ASIDE TO LET THE PEOPLE PASS. UM, AND THE DOGS STILL JUST JUMPED RIGHT UP ON THE LITTLE KID. SO WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, 1700 UNITS, UH, THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY HAVE THEIR OFF-LEASH DOG AT THE GREEN BELT, THEY PUT THEIR DOG IN A CAR, THEY DROVE THERE, THEY REALLY WANNA BE THERE, OTHER PEOPLE NOW ARE GONNA BE JUST WALKING STRAIGHT OUT THE PARK. SO YOU GUYS ARE REALLY GOOD AT DESIGN AND YOU KNOW, AFFECTING HOW PEOPLE USE A SPACE WITH DESIGN. AND SO I JUST REALLY WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO THINK ABOUT SUSTAINABLE USE OF THIS AREA. HOW WE CAN MITIGATE IMPACTS FROM WHAT WE EXPECT TO BE A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN USE FROM NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS BUT THE PUBLIC THAT CAN USE THE ACCESS. UM, AND I ALSO, YOU KNOW, REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT CREATIVE WAYS. IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF FOUNDATION OR CONSERVANCY THAT SOME OF THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, CREATED, THE REVENUE CREATED FROM THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES IN THE DEVELOPMENT COULD SOMEHOW FUND SOMETHING TO HELP PAY FOR ADDITIONAL, UM, MAINTENANCE. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE MAINTENANCE IN THE PARKS ON YOUR PROPERTY, BUT AS YOU'RE PROVIDING AN ACCESS FOR MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TO ENTER OUR PUBLIC PARK LAND THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDS TO MAINTAIN. LIKE LET'S THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT HOW WE CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, DO A, DO A PUBLIC SERVICE THAT'S NOT JUST THE ACCESS BUT ALSO TAKING CARE OF THE IMPACTS FROM THE ACCESS. CUZ IT'S A REAL PROBLEM AROUND HERE. UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THE KIND OF JUST WITH WHATEVER YOU CAN DO WITH DESIGN AND, AND IT'S NOT JUST A SIGN THAT SAYS LIKE PUT YOUR DOG ON A LEASH, IT'S SOMETHING ELSE. LIKE TAKE YOUR LEASH DOG THROUGH THIS ENTRANCE THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC. UM, OKAY, SO I WANNA SWITCH TO A SECOND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. THAT'S A BIG INTEREST FOR ME BECAUSE DISTRICT FIVE, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PARK'S DEFICIENT AREA AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN, UH, A PARK WITH A PLAYGROUND IN THIS AREA, WHICH THERE'S REALLY NOT, UM, NOT, NOT, IT'S NOT IDEAL TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND ALTHOUGH THERE'S THE LARGER Z GROUP PARK, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE QUITE HARD TO ACCESS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT A RESTROOM THAT WAS NOT AN AMENITY LISTED AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND I GOT BACK A RESPONSE THAT THAT CAN BE AN AMENITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. SO I'M GONNA PUT THAT INTO MY RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO THAT. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT, UM, CAR PARKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. IT SEEMS LIKE THE PARKING'S ALL GONNA BE IN PHASE ONE NEAR THE TRAILHEAD PARK, WHICH I GET BECAUSE THAT PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE GREEN BELT. BUT IF YOU WERE TRYING TO COME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK SIDE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT GONNA GET DEVELOPED TILL LATER, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, WOULD THERE BE ANY FREE PARKING CLOSE TO THAT PARK SO THAT YOU CAN USE THAT, UM, IF YOU'RE COMING FROM ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN A CAR, UH, VICE CHAIR? IS THAT A A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR FOR THE APPLICANTS? UH, I CAN TRY TO BEST ANSWER. WELL, WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR IS THAT THERE'S 50 SPACES AND THEY'RE GONNA BE IN PHASE ONE NEAR THE TRAILHEAD AND THAT IT WAS SAID THEY WERE SUPPOSED, THEY'RE FOR THE BARTON CREEK ACCESS. SO I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION FOR BOTH. HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT PUTTING IN A RECOMMENDATION THAT SOME OF THOSE SPACES BE FOR THE [01:55:01] NEIGHBORHOOD PARK? UH, AND AND JUST TO, UH, LOOK AT THE PHASING AGAIN. SO THE, THE 50 SPACES WOULD BE, UM, IN PHASE ONE WOULD BE SORT OF THE TEMPORARY, UH, SURFACE PARKING AND THEN EVENTUALLY WITH THE FA THE FUTURE PHASES ONCE THE POLL PROJECT'S BEEN BUILT OUT. I BELIEVE THE INTENTION IS THAT THOSE 50 SPACES WOULD ULTIMATELY BE INCLUDED IN THE STRUCTURED PARKING IN THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. UH, BUT THE EXACT LOCATION OF THAT HASN'T BEEN CONFIRMED UNTIL YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANNING HAS ACTUALLY BEEN DONE. UM, I'D REALLY DEFER TO THE APPLICANTS ON HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE LOCATION OF THOSE SPACES. OKAY. YEAH, AND IT LIKE, AND MAYBE YOU CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING TO ME HOW IT'S LIKE 50 SPACES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, HOW THOSE ARE REALLY THE PARK SPACES, LIKE HOW PEOPLE KNOW THAT. AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW IN ENOUGH DETAIL, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT. AND WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO PUT SOME CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK? UH, WE HAVE A SHARED PARKING PROGRAM, SO EVERY OTHER USE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WE'LL SHARE PARKING, WHICH IS THE NEW PRACTICE IN AUSTIN. THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE WAY THE CITY IS MOVING FORWARD. AND UH, WE HAVE BOB TANI HERE WHO'S OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER. YOU WANNA COME ON UP? YEAH. AND UH, THIS 50 PARKING SPACES WAS A REQUEST OF PART AND UM, UH, BUT ALL THE SPACES IN THE DEVELOPMENT ACCORDING TO OUR SHARED USE PLAN WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA COME. AND DO YOU WANNA SHED SOME MORE LIGHT ON THAT? YEAH, SO, UH, BOB TANI BO CONSULTING THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS FOR THE PROJECT, UH, SO THE, THE 50 SPACES HAS BEEN MENTIONED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE'RE NOT THERE YET TO UNDERSTAND WHERE EXACTLY THEY'RE GONNA BE. RIGHT. WE HAVE A PHASED PROJECT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER THE PARKS AMENITIES AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO BE ABLE TO LET THAT GET IN AND THEN WE START DEVELOPING THE REST OF THE PROJECT. SO THE FIELDS THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE PARKING FOR PHASE ONE AND WHATEVER REMAINING PHASES OR WHATEVER REMAINING BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE BEFORE THEY GET REDEVELOPED. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN WORK WITH ATD PARKS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN SPLIT THE TWO, MAYBE SOME ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE, MAYBE SOME ON THE GREEN BELT SIDE, BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE BEHOLDEN TO THE TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT REQUIRES US TO DO. AND SO THAT IS A SHARED MIX OF PARKING FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS ALL THE USES. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO CONVINCE ATD THAT HEY, LET US CARVE OUT THE 50. CUZ WHETHER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS OR NOT, BUT ATD UH, AND, AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE HAS A GOAL TO REDUCE PARKING IN OUR CITY SIGNIFICANTLY. AND SO TO ADD 50 PARKING SPACES KIND OF GOES COUNTER TO THAT THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT WE SAW THE, THE NEED FOR THAT TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO OUR PARKS. SO AGAIN, TO BE ABLE TO DEFINE WHERE THOSE EXACT SPACES ARE GONNA BE, WE CAN'T DO THAT TODAY, BUT WE HEAR THE CONCERN AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY WORK WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET FREE PARKING SPACES TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK SOONER THAN LATER. SO IF THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, NOT REQUIRING BUT SAYING STAFF AND THE APPLICANT AND WE'LL WORK WITH ATD TO ATTEMPT TO HAVE YEAH. FREE PARKING LOCATED NEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. I'M THINKING ABOUT LIKE MUELLER, RIGHT? THERE'S LIKE THAT ONE LITTLE LOT THAT'S NEXT TO THE, AND IF YOU'RE LUCKY AND YOU GET A SPOT THERE, YOU CAN GO TO THE PARK DIRECTLY AND IF NOT, YOU PULL OUT AND YOU PARK IN THE METERS ON THE SIDE OR MAYBE YOU HAVE TO GO IN A GARAGE AND THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS. IS IT, WHEN YOU SAY SHARED PARKING, IS THAT SHARED PARKING OR THAT'S A DIFFERENT MODEL? NO, YEAH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE AROUND THAT PARK AREA ARE NOT IN USE. SO THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE, SO THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE AVAILABLE TO PARK. SO THAT'S A SHARED PARKING MODEL. SO THERE'S SYNERGY BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO WHERE DURING THE DAY WHEN THE OFFICE COMPLEXES ARE FULL, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S LESS PARKING AVAILABLE FOR OTHER USES, WHEREAS IN THE EVENINGS OR IN THE WEEKENDS WHERE YOU HAVE HIGH PARK USE, THOSE OFFICE COMPLEXES ARE EMPTY AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN PARK THERE SO THAT THOSE PARKING SPACES BECOME AVAILABLE. NOW TO BE CLEAR, WE'VE ONLY RESERVED NOT ONLY WE HAVE RESERVED 50 SPACES TO BE FREE. YEAH. AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THE GOALS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S GOALS ARE TO REDUCE TRIPS ON THE ROAD AND BY PROVIDING FREE PARKING, THAT GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST THAT GOAL. AND SO WE'RE BALANCING PARKS AND TRANSPORTATION AND WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE IMPACT ON OUR ROADS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME PROMOTE, CONNECT OR ACCESSIBILITY TO OUR PARKS. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT GOAL. AND I THINK THE IMPROVED BIKE ACCESS ON THE MAR AND THE BUS, I MEAN IT'S ALL GONNA HELP. UM, I JUST THINK IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE IT'S AN AMENITY THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE REQUIRED TO USE A CAR CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT ARE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WANNA ACCESS I, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS PART, THE PLAYGROUND THAT, THAT SPACE. I ALSO JUST WANTED TO ADD THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN A QUARTER MILE WALK OF EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS WITHIN ACCEPTABLE WALKING DISTANCES, YOU [02:00:01] KNOW, FOR, FOR PARKING AND PARKS AND, AND AMENITIES AND ALL OF THAT. AND THAT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, YOU'RE ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM THE TRANSIT STOP ON OUR SECOND BEST LINE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. YOU KNOW, SO FROM ACCESSIBILITY STANDPOINT, IF PEOPLE NEED LOW COST TRANSPORTATION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THERE AS WELL. I, I TOTALLY GET IT, BUT IT'S LIKE I JUST, I CAN'T, I'M MY 83 YEAR OLD, YOU KNOW, STEPFATHER WANTS TO GO TO THE PARK AND WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY USE THE CAR TO GET HIM THERE. MM-HMM. , THEY TAKE THE SPECIAL TRANSIT SERVICE A LOT OF THE TIME. BUT IF WE'RE ALL GONNA BE ALL THE KIDS, EVERYONE'S GOING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE. I I BELIEVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS MORE THAN APPROPRIATE TO, TO DIRECT STAFF TO WORK ALL TOGETHER. SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT. I MEAN, I JUST, IF IT'S ALRIGHT, EVERYONE ELSE, I JUST WANNA THROW SOMETHING IN THERE CUZ I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO MAKE IT, UH, MORE USABLE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES. OKAY. YEAH, NO, I THINK I HAVE A, UM, I TRY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. SO, BUT I HAVE TO CHANGE IT A LITTLE BIT WHILE SHE'S TYPING. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO CAME AND GAVE THE PRESENTATION AND ANSWERED LOTS OF QUESTIONS, PEOPLE WHO CAME AND TALKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT'S BASED ON SOME OF THE RESPONSES WE JUST HEARD, SO I HAVE TO REVISE IT. UM, AND I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION JUST BECAUSE, UH, IT IS IN THE MATERIAL, ROY, YOU ASKED ABOUT WHEN THEY HAVE TO DRAIN THE UNDERGROUND TANKS AND ALL OF THAT AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME CALCULATIONS IN THE BACKUP. THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON IT, BUT, UM, THEY, THE WATERSHED PROTECTION PEOPLE WERE WORKING WITH THEM ON HOW THAT ALL HAPPENS. UM, SO WE SAID, OKAY, I'M GONNA, UM, READ THIS RECOMMENDATION AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK. OKAY. I MOVE, I GUESS MAYBE I'LL JUST MAKE THE MOTION AND LET'S SEE IF I GET A SECOND. UH, I MOVED THAT THE PARKS BOARD RECOMMEND THE BRODY OAKS PAD AS SUPERIOR IF THE APPLICANT AGREES TO ONE, WORK WITH STAFF AND AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE 10 FREE PARKING SPACES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK SITE TO AMEND THE APPLICATION TO STATE. THERE WILL BE A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE RESTROOM AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. UM, THREE, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HILL COUNTRY CONSERVANCY AND AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION TO ENSURE THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE TRAIL ACCESSING THE BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT. AND FOUR IN INVESTIGATE AND REPORT BACK ON METHODS TO FUND GREEN BELT PRESERVATION AND MANAGEMENT THROUGH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE SITE. THERE'S ONE QUESTION ON THE LAST POINT. YEAH. WHO WOULD BE DOING THE INVESTIGATION AND REPORTING? WOULD THAT BE THE APPLICANT? APPLICANT? YEAH, WHEN I WAS ASKING THEM CAN THEY LOOK AT SOMETHING CREATIVE THAT COULD BE DONE TO WORK WITH A NONPROFIT AND SUPPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, MANAGEMENT OF THE, I GUESS I SHOULD TO FUND OFF SITE ART AND CREEK GREEN BELT. UH, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A REALLY COOL MODEL THAT COULD BECOME A, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD COME FROM THIS. THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF NICE RETAIL THERE AND PROBABLY EVERYONE THERE WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO HELP MANAGE THE GREEN BELT AND KEEP IT SUPPORTING ALL OF THE USES IT NEEDS TO. YEAH. THANKS. OKAY. SECOND TO SAY, IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? GOT, UH, BOARD MEMBER BERNARD WOULD LIKE TO SECOND, UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR SHALL WE JUST TAKE THE VOTE? YES. CAN I GET A RESPONSE AS FAR AS WHO'S GONNA BE ADDING THE BATHROOM AND THE POTENTIAL COST OF THAT? THEY AGREED TO IT EARLIER TODAY. CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. UM, WE'LL CALL THE VOTE THEN. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION AS STANDS? OH, OH, PAUSE . I TOTALLY, OKAY. I'M SORRY. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES AS YOU KNOW. SORRY. CAN HOW CAN WE, WELL WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS WHOLE DEAL ABOUT THE, UM, COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES. IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE VERY BEGINNING AND I JUST, I'M SORRY, I NEED TO COME BACK TO IT. IT'S IN MY MOTION. SO [02:05:01] IN THE APPLICATION THERE'S THIS WHOLE LIST, LIKE WHEN YOU PASS A PUT AND IT'S LIKE, HERE'S THE CODE THAT APPLIES AND THEN HERE'S, WE REWRITE IT AND HERE'S WHAT'S GONNA APPLY. SO, YOU KNOW, FROM STAFF I WASN'T UNDERSTANDING, IT FEELS LIKE WHATEVER'S IN THAT REVISED CODE IS WHAT APPLIES AND THE FEES WERE ADOPT. THE NEW COMMERCIAL FEES WERE ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER, 2022. UH, SO THE NEW FEES AND SO ARE THEY GRANDFATHERED FROM THOSE OR NOT? I DIDN'T GET, SO THE, THE FEES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, COMPONENTS THAT THEY'RE COMING INTO EFFECT IN OCTOBER, 2022 FOR ANY NEW SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS OF DIVISION APPLICATION THAT'S FILED AFTER OCTOBER, 2022. SO THE FEE RATE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, LET'S SAY IF AN APPLICANT HAS, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? YOU SAID SUBDIVISION OR SITE PLAN APPLICATION, RIGHT? YES. SO THIS IS A PUT ZONING APPLICATION. IS THAT EITHER OF THOSE? SO THIS IS A REZONING CASE TO YEAH, SO, UH, IT'S NOT A, A DEVELOP, IT'S, IT'S TO CHANGE THEIR ZONING. SO REALLY, SO THEY STILL NEED TO FILE A SITE DEVELOPMENT PART? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN WHATEVER IS IN EFFECT AT THAT TIME WILL APPLY OR IT HAD TO BE PART OF THE PUT ZONING. SO UNLESS IT'S SPECIFIED OTHERWISE IN THE POD ORDINANCE, THEN YES, IT WOULD BE WHATEVER IS, UM, IN EFFECT AT THE TIME. SO IF IT'S NOT SPECIFIED OTHERWISE THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CURRENT CODE. OKAY. IS IT SPECIFIED OTHERWISE IN THIS APPLICATION? UH, NOT CURRENTLY, NO. SO WHATEVER'S BEEN ADOPTED WILL APPLY WHEN THEY FILE THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS? YES. EXCEPT FOR YOU GUYS WERE THINKING ABOUT MAYBE GIVING SOME KIND OF WAITER STAFF SUGGESTS THAT BECAUSE THE, UH, REVIEWS BEEN ONGOING FOR TWO YEARS FOR THIS REZONING CASE, THAT IT WOULD BE, WE FEEL FAIR TO NOT HAVE THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT APPLY TO THIS PROJECT GIVEN THAT WE ASSESSED THEM UNDER JUST THE RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. I FELT LIKE THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF PROJECT WE ADOPTED THAT FOR BECAUSE IT'S LIKE GOT OFFICE, IT'S RIGHT ON THE GREEN BELT. WORKERS CAN USE IT. I MEAN IT FEELS LIKE THE, THE MODEL FOR THAT ORDINANCE REALLY. SO I WOULD LIKE IT TO APPLY. UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A COMMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT THOSE COMMERCIAL FEES SHOULD APPLY? NOBODY CARES. I KNOW I, I CARE ABOUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW AS FAR AS WHEN IT GOES IN, IT GOES INTO THE EFFECT WHAT JANUARY ONE AND FAR AS WHEN THE SECOND PLANS ARE WE TAKING THINGS OUT OF, YOU KNOW, OUT OF, OUT OF THE PROCESS? I MEAN, ARE WE CREATING A NEW RULE OUTSIDE OF THE RULE THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR JANUARY ONE? I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THE RULE SHOULD APPLY UNLESS THERE'S SOME KIND OF WAIVER FROM RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. YEAH, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO GO WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL LEAVE IT OUT OF THE RECOMMENDATION THEN. OKAY. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ALL IN FAVOR OF MOTION, WHICH WAS I I THINK I DON'T NEED TO REPEAT RIGHT . ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR. IT LOOKS UNANIMOUS AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE LOST THE ONLINE MEMBERS FROM THE DAIS, SO, OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, THANKS EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND ANSWERS. [4. Discussion and possible action regarding an appointment to the Parks and Recreation Board’s seat on the Downtown Commission] ALL RIGHT. UM, I AM GONNA PULL ITEM FOUR BECAUSE, UH, BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR HAS GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO REMAIN ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION BECAUSE THE REST OF US ARE ALL A LITTLE STRETCHED. UM, SO WHERE SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO . AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON [5. Discussion and possible action regarding the 2023 meeting schedule of the Parks and Recreation Board. ] TO ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE 2023 MEETING SCHEDULE OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THIS DATES. DID ANYBODY ELSE, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DATES BEFORE ANY OTHER CONCERNS? THE ONLY, I HAD TWO CONCERNS. ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS THAT SEPTEMBER 25TH IS YA KIPUR. AND I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD PLAN TO MOVE THAT DATE TO THE TUESDAY FOLLOWING THE MONDAY MEETING JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC. IF ANYBODY HAS. TIM, WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE TO MOVE THE UH, SEPTEMBER 25TH TO THE TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH TO AVOID YO KIPPUR? WHICH DAY OF YO KIP THE FIRST DAY IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD'VE TO CHECK WITH THE CITY CLERK ON. UH, THEY SENT AN INFORMATIONAL EMAIL THAT, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY OUR, OUR PLACE IT BEING THE, THE FOURTH MONDAY OF EACH MONTH, YOU KNOW, IN THIS ROOM IS SORT OF PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARILY [02:10:01] SECURED. SO THAT WOULD BE SORT OF A, A SCHEDULE CHANGE. BUT IF, IF Y'ALL DID VOTE TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, I COULD, I COULD ARRANGE LOCATION. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK A YEAR OUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IT. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOARD MEMBER FLOWERS. YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THE YOUNG PERSON STARTS ON SUNDAY NEXT YEAR, SO IT'S OVER BY THE TECH OUR MEETING, I MEAN, SO MY HUSBAND'S JEWISH. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I, UM, NOT THAT THAT MEANS SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT TO ATTEND STILL. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S SUNDAY WOULD BE THE MORE IMPORTANT DAY FOR JEWISH CALENDAR PEOPLE. OKAY, SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT, IT'S OKAY TO LEAVE IT AS I FINE EITHER WAY IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE IT BUT MONDAY. OKAY. YEAH, IF IT'S SOMETHING IT MIGHT BE TROUBLE. ANY OTHER CONCERNS? OKAY. AND MY OTHER QUESTION TO YOU GUYS IS LAST YEAR WE DID NOT TAKE A BREAK IN JULY PREVIOUSLY WE HAVE TAKEN BREAKS IN JULY. THE REASON THAT WE DID NOT TAKE A BREAK LAST YEAR, UM, BOARD MEMBER LEWIS AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT AND IT WAS BECAUSE SHE FELT LIKE WE GOT SO BEHIND WHEN WE SKIPPED JULY. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW YOU GUYS FELT ABOUT A JULY MEETING. DO YOU WANNA KEEP IT ON THE CALENDAR? ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? I THINK WE CAN JUST KEEP IT ON AND THEN IF WE HAVE HAPPEN TO HAVE A LIGHT SCHEDULE, WE CAN ALWAYS CANCEL IT. OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH. OKAY, SO THEN, UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SCHEDULE? THE CALENDAR IS SCHEDULED. UH, BOARD MEMBER HOMAN. IS THERE A SECOND? ONE SECOND. OKAY, THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER ALDI. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY, TIM, YOU GOT US? ARE YOU ON THE, ON FAVOR? OKAY. ALRIGHTY. UM, THAT PASSES THEN AND WE ARE GONNA [6. Staff briefing on Parks and Recreation Department Community Engagement Events, Planning Updates, Development Updates, Maintenance Updates, Program Updates and Administrative updates.] MOVE ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS. DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING PARTICULAR OR DID ONE OF YOU WANNA STEP IN FOR DIRECTOR MCNELEY? SURE. THIS IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, UH, MASSEY IN FOR KIMBERLY MCNELEY. I DON'T HAVE, UH, A WHOLE LOT. UM, I DID JUST WANNA TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT TO, TO REMIND UM, EVERYONE ABOUT THE C HOME INTAKE OF PHASE ONE REHABILITATION AND THE RIBBON CUT IN CEREMONY SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 22ND AT ONE 30. SO IS A QUICK REMINDER OF THAT. AND UM, YOU GUYS MAY HAVE SEEN THE MEMO ABOUT, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR JODY J AND I SWITCHING RESPONSIBILITIES OCTOBER ONE WILL MARK, UH, THE FIRST TIME IN NEARLY 21 YEARS THAT I WON'T BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY RECREATION DIVISION AS I STARTED HERE JANUARY 7TH AND IN 2002. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK SECOND TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN HERE. THEY'RE KIND OF NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. UM, WE HAD, UH, TURNER ROBERTS RECREATION CENTER OPEN REOPEN. IT CLOSED AFTER THE STORM, UH, WINTER STORM UY FOR SOME FLOOD DAMAGES. SO THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT FACILITY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK AT PARK ZERO GOSO RECREATION CENTER. WE RECENTLY COMPLETED OR WORKING ON TO COMPLETE IRRIGATION ON THEIR BALL FIELD. WE'VE ALSO HAD, UH, A BALL FIELD LIGHTING PROJECT AND A FENCING LIGHT PROJECT THERE. UM, AND I KNOW BOARD MEMBER LEWIS IS NOT ON HERE, UM, BUT SHE AND I WORKED WITH COMMUNITY TO KIND OF ESTABLISH, UH, AT LEAST THAT FIELD AS AN OPEN PLAY SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO IMPROVE THAT AREA. AND FINALLY I STARTED AT DIMAR RECREATION CENTER, UH, SO LONG AGO. UM, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REINVEST IN THAT SIDE AND GETS A BOWL FIELD LIGHTING AS WELL AS COMPLETE A BACKYARD PROJECT, UM, FROM ADVISORY BOARD FUNDS. UM, AND YOU'VE GOT SOME PICTURES THERE FOR YOU, SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT MORE IN HERE, BUT I JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO, TO SAY THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ENJOY YOUR NEW POSITION. OKAY. UM, THEN WE ARE ONTO THE WORKING GROUP [7. Update from South Central Waterfront Advisory Board.] COMMITTEE UPDATES AND I AM THE PERSON TO UPDATE NUMBER SEVEN FROM THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD. UM, WE ARE EXPECTING COUNCIL, I WAITED TWO HOURS AND 20 MINUTES TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON, UM, FOR, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST 15TH OF SEPTEMBER AND THEY ENDED UP NOT EVEN ADDRESSING THE ITEM THAT NIGHT AND PUT IT OFF TILL SEPTEMBER THE 29TH, WHICH IS COMING UP FOR THE SECOND READING. SO THAT IS COMING UP NEXT WEEK, THIS WEEK, THIS WEEK ON THURSDAY. THAT'S RIGHT. . I'VE PUT IT OUTTA MY MIND CUZ THAT'S A LONG DAY. UM, I JUST, I WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SCOTT GRANTHAM ON PARK STAFF BECAUSE HE HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK. OUR, OUR RESOLUTION, OUR RECOMMENDATION, PARDON ME, TO, UM, MAKE THE ACCESS MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE INVITING TO THE PUBLIC DID RESONATE AND THEY ARE WORKING TO WRITE SOME OF THAT INTO THE POD ORDINANCE AND ALSO TO GET SOME, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM HIM. AND I KNOW HE'S DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THAT. SO I WANNA SHOUT OUT TO HIM. UM, AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. SO DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, UM, BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR WAS HAVING CONNECTIVITY [02:15:01] PROBLEMS. SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, [9. Update from Joint Sustainability Committee.] UM, BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA FOR THE UPDATE FROM JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. YEAH, I BELIEVE WE JUST WENT OVER, IF I CAN REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AND THEN WE HAVE OUR, UH, ANOTHER MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY NIGHT. OKAY, THANK [10. Update from Zilker Park Vision Plan Working Group] YOU. UM, UPDATE FROM THE ZER PARK VISION WORKING GROUP. DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES FROM THEM? I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED IN OCTOBER. OKAY. UH, FRIDAY. FRIDAY. OKAY. I THINK IT'S STILL SEPTEMBER. OKAY. THE 30TH OF SEPTEMBER. OKAY. OKAY. UH, UPDATE [11. Update from Crime and Law Enforcement in Parks Working Group.] FROM CRIME AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, IN THE PARKS WORKING GROUP. DO YOU WANNA TALK TO THAT FOR MEMBER MORE? YEAH, SURE. JUST THAT, UM, WE'LL BE MEETING THURSDAY WITH THE CRIME GROUP THAT HAS ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION AND THREE APD OFFICERS. SO HOPING FOR A PRODUCTIVE MEETING. OKAY, GREAT. UM, UPDATE [12. Update from the Homelessness Working Group.] FROM THE HOMELESSNESS WORKING GROUP BOARD MEMBER HOMAN. YEAH, WE MET, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST THURSDAY AND UM, THE GROUP HAS REALLY GAINED A LOT OF TRACTION. UM, SO, UH, ORIGINALLY I WAS TALKING TO CONSTABLE DREW ANGUS ABOUT THIS IDEA AND HE INTRODUCED ME TO A, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. SO THE WORKING GROUP IS QUITE LARGE. UM, ALAN GRAHAM, CHRIS BAKER, UM, OTHERS FROM, FROM THE OTHER ONE'S FOUNDATION. UM, CHARLES LOOSEN FROM HOMELESS STRATEGY. OF COURSE OUR TWO HERE, CATHERINE AND RICH. UM, WHAT HAPPENED AT THE MEETING ON THURSDAY IS JUST OVERWHELMING EXCITEMENT AMONG THIS GROUP. UM, MEMBERS FROM THE HOST TEAM ARE THERE, EMS POLICE AND I GUESS WITH 800 OR SO ENCAMPMENTS IN OUR PARKS THAT WE ARE ALL WONDERING WHAT TO DO ABOUT, UM, THERE NEEDED TO BE OF A FORUM FOR DISCUSSION. SO, SO THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT, UM, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND THAT IS LOOKING FOR LAND FOR SANCTIONED CAMPGROUNDS. UH, BUT FINISHING ESPERANZA FIRST AND MAKING IT EXCELLENT. SO WE HAVE GOOD PUBLIC PERCEPTION. UM, AND THE SECOND INITIATIVE, WE HAD SEVERAL MEMBERS THERE FROM FAITH-BASED COMMUNITIES THAT WANNA BE INVOLVED AND BUILD SMALL DORMITORIES ON THEIR PROPERTIES. UM, AND THIS WOULD BE TO, UM, RESCUE EXTRICATED WOMEN FROM THE WOODS. SO I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY FEW NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMPARED TO THE THOUSANDS THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING. SO THAT'S WHAT THE WORKING GROUP IS WORKING ON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM. , UM, UPDATE [13. Update from the Aquatics Working Group] FROM AQUATICS WORKING GROUP, BOARD MEMBER BEHAR. UM, YES, UH, WE'RE GOING TO MEET ON THE 18TH OF OCTOBER, SO WE HAVEN'T MET YET, BUT WE WILL BE MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, FUTURE [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] AGENDA ITEMS. UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING IN, IN YES. REMEMBER BERNARD? I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT, UH, STAFF GIVES US UPDATES ON, UM, THE FOX HABITAT AT, UH, FESTIVAL BEACH COMMUNITY GARDENS IN HATCHERY PARK AND ALSO, UM, UPDATES ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY LINE DISPUTE WITH THE DEVELOPER. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, ANYBODY ELSE? BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA. BOARD MEMBER MOORE? GONNA SAY ALL SECOND. OKAY. WE GOT SOME SECONDS AND THIRDS GOING ON THERE. SO THERE'S SECONDS AND THIRDS FOR THE BOXES. THE BOXES. EVERYBODY WANTS TO SAVE THE FOXS. THERE'S A, OKAY. UM, OTHER, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS DOWN THERE? BOARD MEMBER INDI, NOBODY ELSE. BOARD MEMBER HOMAN. ANY ITEMS? BOARD MEMBER HOUSE CHEER THE FOX ONE THING. RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE COME TO ADJOURNMENT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND HAVE A VERY PLEASANT EVENING. IT IS 8 22. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.