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FACILITATING THE MEETING TODAY BECAUSE CHAIRPERSON PATTERSON IS JOINING VIRTUALLY.

UM,

[CALL TO ORDER]

SO GOOD EVENING.

IT'S, UH, 6:40 PM AND, UH, WE ARE AT THE AUSTIN CITY HALL.

UM, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE OCTOBER 3RD, 2022 REGULAR MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO ORDER.

UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A, UH, AN ARTIST HERE TODAY, MUSICIAN.

UH, I WOULD REQUEST, UH, COMMISSIONER MAHO FROM DISTRICT ONE TO, UM, GIVE THE INTRODUCTION.

CAN BE A GOOD,

[MUSICAL PERFORMANCE Nnedi Diana (Trouble in the Streets)]

UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

UM, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR VIDEO WAS TAKEN, UM, AS PART OF THE LIVESTREAM PERFORMANCE THAT RAISED FUNDS FOR SOMETHING CALLED THE BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND, WHICH IS NOW A PART OF DOWAS MISSION AS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.

UM, THE ARTIST, HER NAME IS NETTY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DEANNA OR DIANA, BUT I JUST KNOW AS NETTY, SHE'S NIGERIAN AMERICAN WOMAN, UM, WITH A REALLY POWERFUL ARTISTIC PRESENCE IN AUSTIN, UM, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT ALSO, UH, THROUGH HER GROUP.

TROUBLE IN THE STREETS.

SOME PEOPLE KNOW HER ALSO AS SOMEONE THAT VOLUNTEERS AT FREE LUNCH.

SHE COOKS, UH, FOR PEOPLE FOR UNHOUSED, OUR ON HOUSE NEIGHBORS.

AND, UH, SHE'S A DANCER.

SHE'S VERY MANY THINGS.

BUT, UH, TONIGHT, I'M, I'M, I'M HONORED TO AND PRIVILEGED TO SHARE A LITTLE CLIP FROM, UM, A LIVESTREAM PERFORMANCE, UH, THAT WE AIRED IN 2021.

SO, THOUGHT FURTHER ADO, NETTY ALL MY LYRICS.

I TRY NOT TO JUST MAKE UP THINGS THAT AREN'T RELEVANT TO ME, BUT DREAMING IS KIND OF THIS, UH, IT'S GOT THIS LIKE LAS VEGAS SWAGGER THAT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK OUR MUSIC HAS REALLY HAD BEFORE.

IT'S FUNKY AND IT'S, UM, IT'S FUNKY, BUT IT'S NOT SO MUCH ROCK AND ROLL.

UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A FUN, IT'S A FUN SH STRIKE.

AWESOME.

WELL, THIS IS NETTI AND WE'RE GONNA GO CHECK OUT DREAMING FOREVER.

DREAMING UP FOREVER.

YEAH.

AND WE'RE GONNA GO.

YOU GONNA SKATE A LITTLE BIT MORE? LET'S GET, LET'S DO IT.

BEAR SHY.

WATCH A OUGHT KNOW TOO HARD TO LONELY WHAT? YOU CAME TO A GROW DISPATCH TO ANOTHER KNOWN.

GIVE TO THE LOW AS WE GO.

I WANTED SEASON DAYS.

I WANTED TO CHANGE MY, I WANTED TO LIVE LIFE.

NOW THAT DAYS OUT ON BACK, I SEE THE WAY YOU IN THE FACE.

NOW I SEE WE CARRY, LAY.

DREAMING.

DREAMING, DREAMING.

DREAM.

DREAM RIVER.

DREAMING.

DREAMING.

DREAMING.

WHAT WE SEE, WHAT WE SEE.

GOING DOWN, GOING DOWN.

I'M IN DREAM.

DREAM N.

DREAM.

DREAM.

THE FOREVER

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YOU FEEL FOR THIS DREAM.

DREAMING.

DREAMING UP.

DREAMING UP.

DREAMING, DREAMING, DREAMING.

DREAM.

DREAMING.

UP FOR YOU.

DREAMING.

DREAMING.

UP.

DREAMING.

DREAMING UP FOR YOU.

PROUD.

NEVER FOR YOU.

DREAMING FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, A BEAUTIFUL MUSIC, UH, PRESENTED BY DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER MAHO TODAY.

THANK YOU, UH, TO THE ARTIST, NDY.

UM, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER MAHO, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU.

I LOVED IT.

NO, I THINK IT SPOKE FOR ITSELF.

THANKS.

THANKS FOR, UH, LISTENING.

THANK YOU, KIM.

UM, ARE THERE, UM, ANYBODY FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION ONLINE OR HERE? NO, UH, NO ONE SIGNED UP ONLINE AND, AND NO ONE SIGNED UP HERE TODAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MOVING ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UM, IF EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES, THE DRAFT MINUTES FROM, UH, SEPTEMBER 12TH MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING, UH, PLEASE.

MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER SOLOMON MOTIONS TO APPROVE ANYBODY SECONDS.

ONE SECOND.

CHAIRPERSON PATTERSON.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED, UH, COMMISSIONER MAHO? UH, SORRY, I DIDN'T, UH, SEE A VOTE.

YEAH, I'M, I'M UNDERSTANDING I WASN'T AT THE MEETING, SO I, I CAN'T, I I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE LAST MEETING, SO I JUST ABSTAINING FROM THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION PASSES WITH SEVEN, UH, APPROVING AND, UH, ONE ABSTAIN.

MOVING ON TO THE AGENDA OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING TODAY.

UH,

[2. Discussion and possible action following staff update on the RFP process for the Live Music Fund.]

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING STAFF UPDATE ON THE RFP PROCESS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, MC CARSON, ARE YOU GOING TO PRESENT ON THIS? OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES.

IS THIS MIKE? WORKING TESTING? ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO, UH, SO WE'RE LIMITED IN, IN, INTO WHAT WE CAN, UH, TALK ABOUT, BUT WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IS THAT WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE, UH, FOR THE RFP, AND, UH, THAT RESPONSE WAS FROM THE LONG CENTER.

AND, UH, PURCHASING IS BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE NOVEMBER 17TH COUNCIL AGENDA, UH, TO, FOR THAT APPROVAL.

BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS CONFIDENTIAL AT THIS POINT.

SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE.

OKAY.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE SUBJECT? COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? YEAH.

UM, WELL, THAT'S A, UM, THAT'S A GOOD CH WE HAVE ONE GOOD CHOICE.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT MIGHT EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.

UM, I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY, BECAUSE I KNOW IN SOME, SOMETIMES IN BIDDING PROCESSES THERE WITH THE CITY, LIKE BIDDERS CAN RELEASE LIKE A PUBLIC INFORMATION PACKAGE WITH CERTAIN DETAILS.

LIKE I KNOW THEY REALLY CAN'T TALK ABOUT FINANCIALS AT ALL, BUT THEY COULD, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THEY CAN TALK ABOUT.

IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE? UM, HELLO ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.

HELLO, EVERYONE.

UH, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY AN RF QS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE RULES.

SO WE DID CHECK IN WITH PURCHASING, AND THIS IS THE INFORMATION

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WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU NOW.

AND SO WE'LL GET BACK WITH THEM TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT CAN BE BROUGHT TO BEAR, UH, AT THIS, YOU KNOW, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY THIS, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS JUST GO ON A CONSENT AGENDA FOR NOV.

YOU SAID NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER COUNCIL MEETING.

NOVEMBER 17TH IS THE GOAL.

SO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WORK HAS TO GET DONE TO MEET THAT GOAL, BUT PURCHASING IS LEADING THIS RSA, THE RCA.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

THANKS.

MM-HMM.

, UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF AT ANY POINT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE COMPLETE LIST, OR BASICALLY WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE, ONE, UH, RFPN RIGHT NOW.

THERE WAS JUST THE ONE.

OKAY.

AND, AND THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS IS IT'S A LIMITED, UH, SOLICITATION PROCESS, RIGHT? FOR, FOR VENDORS, IF YOU COULD JUST REITERATE HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW ARE THE THIRD PARTY, UH, SELECTED? UM, SO IT WAS, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN AN RFP PROCESS.

IT WAS ACTUALLY AN RFQ S PROCESS.

YEAH.

ERIC IS GONNA TAKE THE MIC.

YEAH.

SO IT'S A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, WHICH IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PROCESS.

YEAH.

AND SO THE GOAL IS TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL SCOPE AND, AND TO SPREAD THE WORD TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO SEE WHO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IS QUALIFIED.

AND SO WE HAD ONE COMPLETED RESPONSE.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS OR ANYBODY CAN ACTUALLY BRING IN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UH, THIRD PARTY, UM, SONO, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? SO, GOOD EVENING, SONO DIRECTOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME, THE SOLICITATION OH, COME TO YOU.

SORRY.

OH, YEAH.

CAN YOU SPEAK UP, SONO? HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? UH, STILL LIGHTLY PRETTY, UH, .

ALL RIGHT.

LET ME USE MY OUTDOOR MOM VOICE.

SO AS YOU RECALL, THIS WAS A LIMITED SOLICITATION TO TRY TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.

WE ONLY OPENED IT UP TO INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY HAD INTERACTION WITH.

SO AT THIS TIME, THE SOLICITATION IS CLOSED.

WE HAVE RELEASED ALL THE INFORMATION WE CAN AT THIS TIME, AND THE RCA WILL BE PUBLISHED TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL DATE.

AND SO ANYONE CAN, UH, SUBMIT A PEER, BUT YOU MAY NOT GET THE INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE IT HAS TO FALL WITHIN THE STATE PURCHASING GUIDELINES.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MARKET DYNAMIC? YEAH.

SO, UH, I WAS CURIOUS IF, UM, IF THEY COULD, UH, DID, DID THE, THE THIRD PARTY VENDORS THAT HAVE BEEN REACHED OUT TO, IF THAT LIST COULD BE PUBLIC, UH, ONCE WE PUBLISH THE RCA, THAT LIST CAN GO PUBLIC.

GOT IT.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC? YEAH, I, I HAVE A THOUGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD RAISED HER HAND, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I'LL, I'LL GET YOU RIGHT AFTER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE IT ALL, UH, AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND.

UH, IT SOUNDED LIKE, UH, THERE WAS, ERICA SAID THAT THERE WAS, THAT THE INTENT WAS TO TRY TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH, UH, UH, RE, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS, OR TRY TO SOLICIT IT AS MANY APPLICANTS AS POSSIBLE FROM THE WHITER COMMUNITY.

BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, I'M HEARING THAT IT WAS ONLY OPEN TO PEOPLE THAT Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH.

SO I MISS, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT? YEAH, I MISSPOKE.

THAT WAS WHAT WE ORIGINALLY, THE PROCESS HAS SHIFTED OVER A LITTLE BIT, AND SO THAT'S MY BAD COMING IN FROM DROP, YOU KNOW, GRABBING KIDS.

SO I MISSED FOLKS.

INNOVIA IS CORRECT.

THAT WAS THE LATEST ITERATION, WAS THAT WE ONLY REACHED OUT TO PRE-QUALIFIED FOLKS THAT WE HAD DONE THIS LEVEL OF WORK, AND THAT WAS SO THAT WE COULD, UH, FACILITATE THE PROCESS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND GET A THIRD PARTY BOARD THAT WAS QUALIFIED.

OKAY.

AND SO JUST TO JUST SEND THAT LINK.

YEAH.

WE CAN SEND A LINK TO WHEN PURCHASING CAME AND MADE THE PRESENTATION AND WALK YOU GUYS THROUGH THE

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PROCESS.

SO WE CAN SEND THAT LINK BACK OUT TO YOU WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT THEY WERE ONLY GONNA REACH OUT.

SO THIS IS NOT NEW PURCHASING WALK THROUGH THE EXPEDITED PROCESS PROBABLY TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO.

YEAH.

APOLOGIES.

THAT MAY HAVE BEEN OUT FOR THAT MEETING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NO PROBLEM.

BUT WE'LL GET THE LINK BACK OUT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOUIN.

OKAY.

AND TO CLARIFY, THIS MEANS THAT THE LONG CENTER WILL MANAGE THE, IF, IF THEY ARE APPROVED AS THE VENDOR, THEY WILL MANAGE THE OUTREACH TO ALL THE POTENTIAL RECIPIENTS OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GRANTS.

RIGHT.

AND THEY WILL DO THE, UM, THEY'LL, THEY'LL OUTREACH EVALUATION.

WHAT, WHAT AM I MISSING? NO, THE, IT'S JUST THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE PROCESSING OF THE CONTRACTS AND THE CHECKS OVER TIME.

THE INITIAL OUTSET OF COMMUNICATION AND, AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH WOULD BE LED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND THE GUIDELINES THAT WILL BE FACILITATED BY THE THIRD PARTY ARE THE SAME GUIDELINES YOU GUYS SAW AND THAT YOU APPROVED.

SO IT'S JUST LIKE HOW WE RAN THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF GRANT AND THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE PRESERVATION FUND.

FANTASTIC.

AND IS THERE, DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES HERE, BUT IF IT IS THE LONG CENTER, WHICH HAS FANTASTIC FACILITIES, VERY CENTRALLY LOCATED CLOSE TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, PARKING, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOOD, UH, DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL THAT HAVING THIS GRANT PROGRAM MANAGED BY, UH, PEOPLE WILL RAISE, UH, AWARENESS AND VISIBILITY AND POTENTIALLY LEAD TO SOME OF THESE EVENTS HAPPENING ON THE LONG CENTER OR ITS GROUNDS? UM, I, THE LONG CENTER COULD BE A POTENTIAL WE ACTUALLY HAVE, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

I HAVEN'T, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GONNA FACILITATE THIS PROGRAM, I'M ASSUMING THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, LIKE, THEIR MARKET RATE FOR NONPROFITS AND WHAT THEY WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE FOR THESE TYPES OF FOLKS THAT COME AND DO RENTALS AT THEIR SPACE.

UH, BUT THE GRANT FUNDS WOULD BE COMING FROM THE CITY.

SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE'LL JUST GET THAT CLARIFIED WITH LAW.

COOL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANKS ERIKA.

UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE WE MOVE ON? WE GOOD? OKAY, THANK

[3. Discussion and possible action following an update from Sound Music Cities on the 2022 Greater Austin Music Census.]

YOU.

MOVING ON.

THE NEXT TOPIC ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

FOLLOWING AN UPDATE FROM SOUND MUSIC CITIES ON THE 2022 GREATER AUSTIN MUSIC SENSE.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, MR. DON PITS HERE, UH, FOUNDER OF, UH, SOUND CITIES SOUND, SOUND MUSIC CITIES.

THANK YOU.

HELLO COMMISSIONERS.

UH, I WAS ASKED TO COME HERE, UH, BY ANN CHARLOTTE.

AND SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A PRELIMINARY UPDATE ON THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION TO THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION, UH, FROM THE GREATER AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS THAT WAS COMPLETED LAST MONTH, CLOSED OUT.

THE DATA SET IS AN ENORMOUS RESOURCE, UH, 2,260 RESPONDENTS.

IT WAS 85 QUESTIONS.

IT WAS MIXED OF MULTIPLE CHOICE, OPEN COMMENTS AND OTHER FORMATS.

THERE WAS A 71% COMPLETION RATE, UH, IN THE SURVEY WORLD.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY HIGH NUMBER.

UH, AUSTIN MUSIC STAKEHOLDERS GAVE 489 HOURS OF THEIR TIME TO COMPLETE THIS 140,000 WORDS IN THE COMMENT SECTIONS.

AND, UH, PETER SCHWARTZ SAYS, ABOUT THE LENGTH OF A HUNDRED YEARS OF SOLITUDE BY GABRIEL GARCIA MAR KIDS ANONYMITY, PRIVACY OF RESPONSES IS ASSURED CUZ WE DID NOT COLLECT ANY ADDRESS.

UH, THIS, THIS DATA SET IS APPROPRIATE FOR OPEN ACCESS RESEARCH, LOCAL LEARNING, NEW INFO, INCLUDING IMPACTS OF PANDEMIC, UH, BENCHMARKING VERSUS THE 2015 AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS IN OTHER CITIES.

UH, DIVERSE PARTICIPATION ENABLES COMPARISONS BY SUBGROUPS, EVIDENCE AND COMMENTS ON A RANGE OF NEEDS AND GAPS.

STRONG PARTICIPATION IN THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION SECTION.

THE, THE CENSUS SURVEY WAS 85 QUESTIONS ADDRESSING THESE TOPICS.

INTRO, CERTIFICATIONS, ELIGIBILITY, GEOGRAPHY PROBLEM, PRIMARY ROLE IN MUSIC FOR BRANCHING, EMPLOYMENT STATUS, BUSINESS STRUCTURE, NEEDS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND TRAINING, CREATIVE SECTOR BRANCH SPECIFICS, VENUE OWNER, MANAGER, PRESENTER, BRANCH SPECIFICS, INDUSTRY SERVICE PROVIDER, BRANCH SPECIFICS, FOUNDATIONAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS STATUS, DEMOGRAPHICS, DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION WAS, UH, SECTION WITH 14 PAIRS OF ADJECTIVES, COMMENTS, LIVED, EXPERIENCE OF RESPONDENTS.

UM, I DID WANT TO COME HERE JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE NEXT STEP BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA RELEASE THE FULL DATA SET UNTIL PROBABLY 1ST OF NOVEMBER.

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UM, BUT I DID WANT TO COME HERE WITH JUST THREE OR FOUR ITEMS. SO WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION SOME NOTE WORTH INFORMS SOME NEEDS AND GAPS.

UH, 27% OF THE RESPONDENTS LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF AUSTIN, ONLY 64%.

FEEL SURE THAT THEY WILL STAY IN AUSTIN OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

A THIRD SAY THEY NEED, BUT DON'T HAVE SEPARATE WORKSPACE.

ONLY 35% OF CREATIVES ARE PLAYING MORE THAN THREE SHOWS PER MONTH.

CURRENTLY 20% OF VENUE OPERATORS AND PRESENTERS RANK PROPERTY TAX AS THEIR NUMBER ONE CHALLENGE.

84% HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, CURRENTLY 8% LOST INSURANCE COVERAGE.

RECENTLY, UH, 35% ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

38% ARE STRUGGLING TO, ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR RENT MORTGAGE.

AND 70% SAY THEY HAVE RETURNED TO PRE PANDEMIC LEVEL OF MUSIC ACTIVITY.

AND 26% OF THE RESPONDENTS RECEIVED COVID RELATED RELIEF CONNECTED WITH THEIR MUSIC WORK.

THE NEXT STEPS FOR US AND IS THE SCREENING, THE COMMENTS, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMENTS, THOUSANDS OF COMMENTS.

UH, SO SCREENING THOSE COMMENTS BY RESPONDENTS THAT THAT COULD JEOPARDIZE, JEOPARDIZE THE ANONYMITY, UH, THE CONTINUED ANALYSIS OF RAW DATA AND PREPARATION OF KEY FINDINGS.

UH, WE'RE GONNA PRESENT THOSE KEY FINDINGS TO THE 50 PLUS COMMUNITY PARTNERS LATE OCTOBER.

AND THEN THE PUBLIC RELEASE OF INFOGRAPHICS ARE GONNA BE BY LATE OCTOBER, EARLY NOVEMBER.

SO THAT IS OUR PRELIMINARY REPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. BRITZ.

UH, ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, DON BIT HERE? COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? UH, WELL, THIS IS, SO THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS CAN BE A GREAT TOOL FOR POLICY.

SO IT'S, IT'S EXCITING, UH, TO HAVE ALL THIS DATA.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA PARSE IT DOWN TO, UM, SOME INFOGRAPHICS.

AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL PROBABLY TELL A BIG PIECE OF THE STORY, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA? LIKE CAN THIS, COULD THAT BE POSTED TO OR SHARED WITH THE CITY IN SOME WAY? UH, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE, THE OPEN DATA PORTAL? UH, MAYBE .

YEAH.

NO, THERE'S LIKE, THERE'S VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S VARIOUS TOOLS ON THE CITY SITE, SO THAT CERTAINLY, UH, COULD BE ONE WAY THAT, THAT THE INFORMATION COULD BE SHARED AND THAT WOULD BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.

I JUST, I THINK, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, UM, SUPER HELPFUL TO HAVE IT CONDENSED AND SUMMARIZED, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO HELPFUL, YOU KNOW, IF ANYONE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO REALLY SEE THE FULL BREADTH OF RESPONSES AS LONG AS THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT COMPROMISING ANYBODY'S IDENTITY.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOUR GROUP WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH DOING? AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE CITY PROCESSES WOULD ABOUT THAT WOULD BE, BUT WOULD Y'ALL BE OPEN TO THAT? YEAH, I, I, I CAN SPEAK FROM, FROM OUR END.

UH, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY, UH, LOVE TO OFFER THAT.

OKAY.

GREAT.

UH, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION? YOU KNOW, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION FOR, UH, THE GREATER AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS SURVEY DATA, UM, TO BE MADE, UH, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE THROUGH THE, UH, CITY'S, UH, OPEN DATA PORTAL, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT NAME.

UH, KIM, IF HE COULD PLEASE ADVISE, IS THAT CALLED THE OPEN DATA PORTAL? UM, WELL, IT'S THE, IT'S THE CITY PORTAL THAT WE USE FOR, UM, ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS AND, UM, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

BUT YEAH.

YEAH, I HAVE NO IDEA IF THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE CAN USE TO MAKE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND, UH, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.

LET'S SEE WHERE WE LAND.

AND, UH, I THINK IT'S, IF WE CAN AT LEAST EXPLORE THAT AS AN OPPORTU, UH, AS AN OPTION TO, UH, MAKE THE DATA JUST TRANSPARENT AND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

YEAH, I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO JUST STRIKE THE, THE SPECIFIC NAME OF THE PROGRAM AS, YOU KNOW, JUST SAY THROUGH CITY RESOURCES, MAKE IT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

UM, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND MOTION FOR, UM, MAKING THE 2022 GREATER AUSTIN MUSIC SENSE SURVEY, UM, AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC, UM, VIA A CITY FORUM.

SECOND, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE OPEN DATA PORTAL, SECOND COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL SECONDS.

SO WE

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HAVE A MOTION TO MAKE THE 2022 GREATER O AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS SURVEY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, UM, VIA CITY RESOURCES.

UM, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE USING THE OPEN DATA PORTAL TO MAKE THAT FEASIBLE.

I HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL HERE.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, THOSE OPPOSED? RIGHT.

UH, THE MOTION, UH, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES THAT, NOW DOES THAT INCLUDE THE COMMENT SECTIONS OR HOW TO, HOW DO WE WANT TO HANDLE THAT? OR IS THAT PART OF IT? HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF I MAY, UM, TAKE A, UH, CHANCE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS HERE.

UM, SO THE ONE, ONE IS JUST THE, THE RAW SURVEY DATA.

AND THEN THERE'S, UH, YOU SAID THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF COMMENTS, UH, AND, UH, AS THAT GETS MADE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, WOULD THE DATA BE SCRUB TO PROTECT ANONYMITY AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS, THERE ARE NO DIRECT REFERENCE REFERENCES TO INDIVIDUALS IN THE MIX? THE THE DATA IS YES.

THE DATA, YOU CAN'T REALLY, IT'S, IT'S, THE ANONYMITY IS, IS THERE, OR WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

UH, THE, THE COMMENTS WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME, IT'D PROBABLY TAKE US ANOTHER 30 DAYS OR SO TO LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, WE TAKE OUT ANY SELF IDENTIFYING, UH, PART TO THE COMMENT.

OKAY.

UM, UH, KIM, DO WE HAVE TO DO A SECOND MOTION OR CAN I, UH, RESTATE THE FIRST ONE OR DO A FOLLOW UP MOTION ON THIS? BECAUSE DEFINITELY WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE, UH, COMMENTS.

I THINK COMMENTS USUALLY PROVIDE, UH, A PLETHORA AND, AND JUST RICH INFORMATION BEYOND, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, UH, A, A MULTIPLE QUESTION SURVEY USUALLY OFFERS.

WELL, YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE THAT'S BEEN SECONDED.

YEAH.

UM, SO YOU WOULD EITHER NEED TO VOTE ON IT OR, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD NEED TO VOTE MAYBE TO REDO IT, BUT YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE, SO I WOULD THINK VOTE.

AND THEN IF YOU NEED TO, UM, COULD I, COULD I JUST DO A SECOND MOTION? YEAH, YOU CAN DO THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD MOTION TO, UM, MAKE THE COMMENTS FROM THE 20 20 22 O GREATER AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS SURVEY, UH, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE WHY ARE CITY FORUMS, UM, AND WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THE OPEN DATA PORTAL, UH, AS AN OPTION FOR THE SAME AS WELL.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

TAKE A COMMISSIONER ENTAL HERE.

UM, SO WE HAVE, UH, MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, ALL THOSE WHO FAVOR? UH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY.

MY APOLOGIES.

SO, UM, THE COMMISSIONER MAHON, THERE ARE TWO SECTIONS TO THE SURVEY.

ONE IS, UH, THE QUESTIONS, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU EITHER THERE WERE QUESTIONS ON A SLIDER OR YOU JUST, UH, PICKED, UH, FROM A COUPLE OF OPTIONS, AND THEN THERE WAS AN OPEN TEXT.

UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL, UH, QUESTIONS THAT WERE AVAILABLE VIA, UH, TO BE RESPONDED BY A OPEN TEXT, UH, AND, UH, UH, FROM WHAT MR. DON PITS, UH, YOU KNOW, TOLD THIS YEAR, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF COMMENTS FROM, UH, MUSICIANS AND MUSIC PROFESSIONALS IN THE SURVEY.

AND THE IDEA IS TO, ALONG WITH OTHER DATA, MAKE THE COMMENTS PUBLIC AS WELL.

SO IT'S, IT'S TRANSPARENT AND ALSO PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

I PERSONALLY THINK THIS WILL, THIS KIND OF ACCESS, UH, TO THIS INFORMATION WILL JUST ALLOW, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AND ENTITIES TO FREELY USE IT AND, UH, UH, MAKE USE OF THE DATA TO MAKE DECISIONS.

UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, WELL, I'M GONNA SAY, WELL, I'LL LET YOU FINISH, BUT I WAS GONNA SAY WHILE I'M HERE, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BACK IN DECEMBER.

AND I WILL LET PETER SCHWARTZ AND SOME OTHER, OTHER TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE MUCH SMARTER ON THIS STUFF THAN I AM TO HELP PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION KIND OF A DEEP DIVE OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA IN NOVEMBER.

SURELY YES.

THANK YOU FOR OFFERING THAT.

UH, COULD WE GO AHEAD AND, UH, TAKE A VOTE, UM, FOR THE, UH, MOTION TO INCLUDE THE COMMENTS, UH, VIA THE CITY FORM? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

VO.

YES.

UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS, WHY I'VE SECONDED THIS THREE TIMES, UH, IS THANK YOU, IS BECAUSE,

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UH, LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION THERE AND THE CAPABILITIES THAT ARE NOW AVAILABLE IN GOING THROUGH VERBATIM COMMENTS, UH, AI TOOLS, DEEP LISTENING, THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, THIRD PARTIES SUCH AS EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS OR, UH, NGOS TO REALLY DIG INTO THE DATA AND FIND OUT EVEN MORE INSIGHTS.

UH, I DON'T WANNA STEP ON YOUR TOES.

I KNOW YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE THE PROS, BUT HEY, IT'S CITY DATA, AND I THINK THIS COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME THESIS OR GROUP PROJECT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT USING THE LATEST TOOLS.

NO, I, I, I AGREE.

AND AT MOST OF OUR CLIENTS, UH, REALLY ENJOY THE, THE, THEY DESCRIBE THE COMMENTS SECTIONS THAT WE GIVE THEM IS AS THE TREASURE TROVE, AND IT TAKES THEM MEASLY COUPLE MONTHS TO GO THROUGH, BUT IT REALLY GIVES THEM A LOT OF INSIGHT IN ADDITION TO THE DATA, JUST, IT PROVIDES ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER LAYER OF INSIGHT.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL SERVICE.

I, I HAD A, I HAD ANOTHER, I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.

I, I LOVE DATA FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR GIVING ME, FOR JUMPING IN HERE.

SO, DATA PERSON, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE NUMBER HERE THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT AT ME AS SURPRISING.

AND THAT SAYS THAT ONLY 38% ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR RENT OR MORTGAGE.

NOW, I ALSO SEE THAT 27% LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO MAYBE IF THOSE ARE ALL THE, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO'S STRUGGLED HAS, HAS MOVED.

UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE 65, I, I DON'T, I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT STRIKES ME AS SURPRISINGLY LOW.

DOES, DOES THAT, DO YOU, DO YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY? YES.

UH, IT, IT IS, UH, I WAS, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GEOGRAPHY THAT WITH WHERE IT'S SPREAD OUT, I THINK YOUR, YOUR INTUITION OF, OF THE REASON WHY THAT SLOW IS BECAUSE EVERYONE OH, HAS MOVED OUT.

MEAN A LOT OF THE, WE DIDN'T GET MUCH HATE MAIL.

WE USUALLY GET SOME HATE MAIL, BUT, UH, SOME OF THE HATE MAIL WE GOT WAS WE DIDN'T EXPAND IT BEYOND THE FIVE COUNTIES.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK INTO CORRELATING THE 38% WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGE WITH THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY LEFT WITH THOSE THAT ARE, UH, THAT, THAT ARE UNSURE THAT THEY WILL STAY IN AUSTIN FOR, FOR THE THREE YEARS, AS WELL AS WHICH, WHICH PARTS OF, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHICH PARTS OF TOWN THEY'RE COMING FROM BECAUSE OF THE, WELL, JU JUST, I, I THINK I, I'M SURPRISED TO SEE IT SO LOW, AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE A CASE THAT MUSICIANS NEED, UH, SUPPORT IN HOUSING THAT A LOW NUMBER WOULD MAKE IT HARDER.

SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I WANT TO DIG MORE INTO IT.

RIGHT.

IT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT.

I THINK WHEN WE UNVEIL IT, WE'LL HAVE THE CONTEXT BEHIND THAT TO SHOW YOU THAT THAT 30% IS PROBABLY INSIDE THE CITY OF AUSTIN, OR THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD, I'LL, I'LL GET YOU RIGHT AFTER.

SURE, SURE.

COMMISSIONER GOLD, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT? OH, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT YOU SAID AFTER.

HELLO.

HI, DON, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR DOING THIS.

AND, UM, I, I'M WITH, OR I THINK THIS IS, UM, REALLY, REALLY VALUABLE, UM, DATA, AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE KIND OF MORE LONG TERM, UM, BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UH, I KNOW I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE WE FIRST WORKED TOGETHER IN 2012 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OF HAVING REGULAR, UH, SENSES.

SO I'M REALLY, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE ON THIS AND YOU'RE DOING THIS, AND, UM, YEAH, I WOULD JUST LOVE TO TO KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS LONG TERM PLANS ARE AND HOW WE CAN POTENTIALLY SUPPORT THAT AT THE COMMISSION OR THROUGH ANY SORT OF ADVOCACY AT THE CITY LEVEL TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS CONTINUED WORK, UM, ON TRACKING THIS MOVING FORWARD.

YES.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING, UH, WE WORKED THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, UH, INTERVIEWING 125 GRASSROOTS LEADERS IN THE CITIES THAT WE HAD WORKED IN BEFORE.

UM, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THIS MORE AFFORDABLE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE PRICE LIKE UNDER $10,000, LIKE FOR, FOR CONTRACTS.

UM, AND IN SOME CITIES EVEN LOWER, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE.

SO CITIES CAN MEASURE.

I THINK THE WORST THING THAT, THAT WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THIS BODY OF WORK IS CITIES WILL SPEND 50, 60,

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$70,000 ON A SURVEY, GET THE RESULTS, YOU KNOW, 150 PAGE REPORT, AND IT, THAT'S IT.

AND THEN, SO IT'S MORE OF, OF MORE LIKE ACTION PLANS.

I, I THINK IT, IF ANYTHING IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS HAVE TAUGHT US THAT THE WORLD CHANGES QUICKLY, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR CREATIVES.

AND SO I THINK MORE FREQUENT MEASUREMENT EVERY TWO OR THREE YEARS, UH, AND REALLY FOCUS ON, UH, IT'LL GIVE YOU SOME, THE ABILITY TO FOCUS ON, ON, ON DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DATA SETS THAT YOU WANT.

BUT YOU KNOW, THE OLD SAYING, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GROW IT, YOU DON'T MEASURE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE.

THANK YOU.

UM, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN? YEAH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME, DON? I WAS WONDERING, I'M WITH 84% THAT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.

SEEMS VERY HIGH.

I'M, I'M VERY IMPRESSED AND HAPPY WITH THAT.

I DON'T RECALL WHEN I WAS FILLING OUT THE FORM, IF THERE WAS A WAY TO DETERMINE HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE HAM SORT OF COVERAGE VERSUS TRADITIONAL HEALTH COVERAGE.

YES.

THERE, THERE'S, WE, WE CAN CORRELATE THAT IN THE FINAL, AND WHEN THE FINAL RESULTS, WE'LL CORRELATE THAT.

YEAH, CUZ I, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.

I, I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING IT BECAUSE OF HAM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE DATA WILL TELL.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR, UH, QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. VEZ.

THANKS.

I'M GOING TO A SHOW NOW.

THANK YOU.

AND IT'S, UH, GOOD TO SEE YOU IN PERSON AFTER A VERY LONG TIME.

UM, I FEEL LIKE I'M PLOTTING AGAIN.

GO AHEAD, .

UM, ALRIGHT.

UM, MOVING ON.

[4. Discussion and possible action on musician loading zones and affordable parking following update from staff.]

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSICIAN LOADING ZONES AND AFFORDABLE PARKING FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM STAFF.

SHE, ERICA.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THIS THE ONE FOR THE AFFORDABLE PARKING? WHAT AGENDA ITEM ARE WE ON? AFFORDABLE.

OKAY.

AFFORDABLE PARKING.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE UPDATED THE WEBSITE.

SO IF YOU GO TO ATX.MUSIC.ORG, THAT'LL TAKE YOU TO THE MUSIC, ENTERTAINMENT, UH, WEBSITE.

AND THERE'S A BUTTON THERE, IT SAYS, GETTING TO THE SHOW THAT TAKES YOU TO THIS PAGE.

IF YOU COULD JUST SCROLL DOWN.

SO IF YOU CLICK DOWN ON TRANSPORTATION, AND THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE PLAYING IN SHOWS OR JUST GOING DOWNTOWN TO SEE A SHOW.

SO TRANSPORTATION ALREADY HAS LIKE AN ALL IN ONE WEBSITE, NO, BEFORE YOU GO TO GET HOME SAFE.

THAT LISTS A BUNCH OF BUS ROUTES AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF OPTIONS FOR GOOD, UH, TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS FOR FOLKS, WHETHER THEY'RE FREE OR LOW COST.

UH, SO PLEASE GO THERE NOW FOR PARKING.

IF YOU COULD CLICK DOWN ON PARKING.

SO THE AUSTIN CITY OF AUSTIN STILL HAS THE AFFORDABLE PARKING PROGRAM.

THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS AUSTIN DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE TO PARTNER WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT PARKING GARAGES DOWNTOWN FOR LOW COST MONTHLY RENTALS.

SO IF YOU COULD CLICK ON THE AFFORDABLE PARKING PROGRAM LINK.

SO THIS LINK WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE AND THE AFFORDABLE PARKING PROGRAM.

AND IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, YOU SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT GARAGES, UH, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED AND WHAT THEIR RATES ARE.

SO THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR EACH, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTACT FOR EACH OF THOSE GARAGES IS LISTED.

SO PLEASE CALL DIRECTLY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY AVAILABILITY IN THE GARAGES.

AND SO IF YOU ARE GOING AND PLAYING LOTS OF SHOWS DOWNTOWN, WORKING DOWNTOWN, UH, THIS IS A WAY TO FIND PARKING THAT'S RELIABLE AT A PRETTY, UH, INEXPENSIVE, AT A PRETTY INEXPENSIVE OPTION.

TYPICALLY, UH, PARKING CAN RUN BETWEEN 10 TO $20 A NIGHT.

SO TO BE ABLE TO PAY AROUND 30, 25 TO, YOU KNOW, $35 A MONTH, UH, IS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL.

SO WE DEFINITELY WANNA GET THE WORD OUT SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IF THEY CAN PLAN THIS INTO THEIR BUDGET.

UH, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY WILL BE HERE NEXT MONTH TO DISCUSS ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT WE PUSHED TO NEXT, OR THAT IS ON THIS AGENDA, AND THAT THEY WILL BE HERE NEXT MONTH SO THEY CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AS WELL AS MUSICIAN LOADING AND UNLOADING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANGELA? UH, CHAIRPERSON PATTERSON? YEAH.

UH, SO THIS IS, THIS IS GREAT TO HEAR.

AND SO I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, ARE ALL THE PARKING GARAGES LISTED THERE? ARE THEY ALL CITY OWNED OR SOME OF THOSE PRIVATE? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.

MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT THEY'RE ALL CITY OWNED, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THEM INTO THE PROGRAM.

MM-HMM.

, UH, BUT I CAN DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.

OR YOU NEXT MONTH WHEN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS HERE, THAT THIS IS

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THE GUY TO ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS.

YEAH.

AND THEN, YEAH, SO ANOTHER QUESTION, AND AGAIN, THIS, THIS NEXT QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR THEM OR SOMETHING FOR US TO DISCUSS, BUT, UM, SO THE $35 A MONTH PASS, IS THAT PER GARAGE OR DOES THAT WORK? NO, IT WOULD BE A, A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PARTICULAR GARAGE.

EACH WOULD HAVE ITS OWN CONTRACT.

SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, COORDINATE WITH THEM ON THAT PARTICULAR PRICE THAT'S QUOTED UNDERNEATH THE CONTACT INFO.

YEAH.

SO I THOUGHT THAT I, I HAD, UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THIS WITH ME EARLIER.

I SAID I'VE HAD SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF CREATING LIKE A MUSICIAN PASS THAT'S GOOD AT ALL THE GARAGES, BECAUSE I, I MEAN, THAT'S, THIS IS GREAT FOR A CERTAIN GARAGE OF LIKE, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE A RESIDENCY AND YOU'RE ALWAYS PLAYING IN, IN A CERTAIN LOCATION OR ALL YOUR GIGS TEND TO BE LOCATED.

BUT IF IT'S, IF THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TEND TO PLAY ALL OVER DOWNTOWN, LIKE THAT GARAGE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT OR 10 BLOCKS AWAY AND THAT, SO I THINK THE CITY WOULD ONLY HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE ON THE PARKING LOTS THAT IT OWNED, PROBABLY THERE, THE ONES ON THE LIST OR THE ONES, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, DUE PROCESS THAT WENT INTO THE PROCESS OF CREATING THAT LIST.

SO MY, UH, SUGGESTION WOULD BE SINCE, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE IS A, A PARTNER, BUT THERE ARE OTHER NONPROFITS THAT COULD PROBABLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE PRIVATELY HELD PARKING GARAGES TO SEE IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT, A GREAT INITIATIVE, UH, BECAUSE YEAH, BECAUSE THEN I THINK $35 A MONTH COULD BE A BIT REALLY HELPFUL TO MUSICIANS.

AND I'LL LET THE MUSICIANS WHO, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE COMMISSIONS SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA, BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN RECOMMEND WHEN, UH, THE PARKING, UH, AND OR TRANSPORTATION PRESENTS TO US NEXT MONTH.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER, GO.

YEAH.

UM, UH, I'M WITH COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

UH, IT'S, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THIS PROGRAM EXISTS, AND THANKS FOR PUTTING THOSE RESOURCES UP ON THE WEBSITE.

THAT'S AWESOME.

UM, AND JUST FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, UH, MYSELF AND THE PEOPLE THAT I TEND TO WORK WITH THE MOST, UH, LIKELY WOULDN'T BE PLAYING IN THE SAME SPOT OFTEN ENOUGH TO REALLY MAKE LIKE A $35 A MONTH COMMITMENT TO ONE GARAGE REALLY WORTH, UH, WORTH PURSUING JUST FOR A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE SAME WAY THAT I PERSONALLY DO.

UM, AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO ASK, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OR DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE OR WHOEVER COULD HELP WITH THIS, IF I, I THINK THE, THE, THE MUSICIAN PASS IDEA IS MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A, A I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, POSSIBLY.

AND THEN ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE COULD BE SOME WAY TO GET PARKING VALIDATED, YOU KNOW, AT A CLUB, YOU KNOW, LIKE I GO TO TRADER JOE'S AND I CAN PARK IN THE GARAGE AND GET IT VALIDATED UP THERE, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF THERE'S A WAY TO LIKE, EVEN IF IT'S NOT FREE, BUT JUST TO GET A DISCOUNT ON THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN GET IT VALIDATED AT, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY GONNA GET MESSY AND COMPLICATED, IT'S JUST THAT I REMEMBER WHEN THIS PROGRAM CAME OUT AND I THOUGHT THAT'S, THAT COULD BE REALLY COOL IF YOU WORKED IN ONE SPOT, BUT OH, YOU WENT OUT LAUREN.

OPTIONS AROUND THAT.

UM, YEAH.

COMMISSIONER GOLD, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I JUST MUTED.

COULD YOU HEAR YES, WHAT IT SAID BEFORE? CAN HEAR IT NOW? OKAY.

YEAH, I WAS DONE.

.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I WOULD JUST SAY, AND THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TAKE A MOTION ON, BUT, UM, LET'S THINK ABOUT FOR NEXT TIME THAT WE COULD TAKE, WE COULD MAKE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION ABOUT HOW THE, THE PROGRAM COULD WORK AND JUST THINK ABOUT HOW THAT COULD BE WORDED.

UM, AND THEN MAKE A MOTION FOR IT NEXT TIME AFTER WE HEAR FROM TRANSPORTATION.

UH, BUT YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO PUT SOMETHING FORTH THAT'S LIKE REAL, REALLY MAKES THE PROGRAM WORK REALLY REASONABLY FOR MUSICIANS.

AND THEN I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY TOO, BECAUSE IT, IT'S VERY WIN-WIN BECAUSE THEN THERE WOULD BE THAT MANY MORE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BUYING THOSE, THOSE PASSES, EVEN IF THEY'RE USED IN MULTIPLE GARAGES.

SO THAT'S JUST ALL, LET'S ALL THINK ABOUT THAT.

SO WE'VE GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, PENCIL SOMETHING DOWN, SO SOME GOOD WORDING FOR THAT FOR NEXT TIME, AND THEN WE CAN, CAN GET THROUGH IT AND, UH, PARKING CAN KIND OF HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS OF

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MAKING THAT HAPPEN WOULD BE.

UH, BUT YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS GREAT NEWS AND I'M EXCITED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE LOADING ZONE PART OF THIS FROM TRANSPORTATION NEXT TIME.

THANK YOU.

NEAR THE DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, MOVING ON.

UM,

[5. Discussion and possible action on musician loading and unloading fee including consideration of existing City resources.]

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSICIAN LOADING AND UNLOADING FEE, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF EXISTING CITY RESOURCES.

IS THIS, UH, RELATED TO WHAT COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND HAD BROUGHT UP EARLIER? YES.

ABOUT, UM, ADDING, UH, LOADING, UNLOADING FEE TO CITY SPONSORED PERFORMANCES? YEAH, SO THIS WOULD ACCOMPANY THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERFORMANCE IS PAID AT $200 PER HOUR PER MUSICIAN.

AND THEN WHAT, WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED WAS, UH, ADDING IN LIKE AN ADDITIONAL FLAT LOADING UNLOADING FEE.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE PER MUSICIAN WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

IT WOULD JUST BE FOR, FOR THE BAND, THE WHOLE BAND.

THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THAT KIND OF WE WERE COALING AROUND, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

ANY, UH, DISCUSSION? SORRY, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, IF COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND'S NOT, I KNOW HE WAS FIGHTING HIS WAY THROUGH TRAFFIC TO GET HERE, SO, UH, WE MIGHT WANNA JUST MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO LATER IN THE AGENDA AND SEE IF HE'S ABLE TO JOIN US.

UM, YEAH, OR WOULD WE LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST TABLE THIS FOR THE NEXT MEETING? UM, COLLECTIVELY REVIEW IT WITH, UH, WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FINE.

YEAH.

SINCE TRANSPORTATION'S COMING BACK.

YEAH, WE COULD MOVE IT.

I'M FINE WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

BECAUSE, UM, I MEAN, UM, SO KIM WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST, WE'LL MOVE IT TO THE NEXT, UH, MEETING WITH TABLE, I THINK.

I THINK YOU HAVE THE MOTION TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

MOTION IN A SECOND.

AH, LIKE TO MOTION TO MOVE THE AGENDA ITEM AROUND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSICIAN LOADING AND UNLOADING FEE, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF EXISTING CITY RESOURCES TO THE NOVEMBER MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.

SECOND.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

UH, REYN SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR? YOU JUST NEED THE MOTION IN THE SECOND? THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, MOVING ON, ITEM

[6. Discussion and possible action following presentation by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, on Hotel Occupancy Tax collections on the Live Music Fund.]

NUMBER, THE NEXT ITEM, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY KIM MC CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION ON HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND FROM MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT PROGRAM MANAGER.

UM, SO THE, THE, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND UPDATE.

THERE WE GO.

AND, UM, THE NUMBERS ARE THE SAME.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SAME AS LAST MONTH.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING NEW REPORTED, UM, YET, SO THERE AREN'T ANY NUMBERS TO UPDATE, BUT, UM, SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY BASICALLY THE SAME.

OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK LAST TIME WE JUST, WE, WE HAD THE VERSION THAT WENT THROUGH THE 2122 AMENDED, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, THE EXTRA COLUMN, SO FOR 22, 23 PROPOSED.

SO THAT'S, IT'S GREAT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA GONNA TAKE A QUICK LOOK AND KIND OF LET THIS, OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THE, THE PROGRAMMER REQUIREMENTS THEN FOR, SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, WHAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE IS THIS, THIS 3.5 MILLION IS WHAT WOULD GO INTO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND FOR THIS, FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR? YEAH.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE TOTAL.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THIS, THE 2223 IMPLEMENTATION? UH, PROBABLY CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

COOL.

SO, UH, SO THAT'S GOOD.

SO THAT'S LIKE ANOTHER, AN EXTRA MILLION DOLLARS, UH, THAN WHAT WE WOULD'VE WORKED WITH IN THIS YEAR OR IN THE PRIOR YEAR.

UM, WE

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DO HAVE A, I'M SEEING THAT WE HAVE LIKE A PRETTY, EVEN AFTER THAT, LIKE THERE'S A PRETTY BIG ENDING BALANCE, UM, OF $6 MILLION.

AND I KNOW WE WANNA, WE LIKE THE IDEA OF HOLDING SOME IN RESERVE, YOU KNOW, AS A RAINY DAY.

UM, IS THAT KIND OF A LOT OR OR, I MEAN, SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT OTHER 6 MILLION? LIKE, WOULD WE HAVE LIKE THEN MORE MONEY, UM, AND 2324 GOING OUT FOR WHEN WE ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EX LIKE WOULD WE EXPAND THE POLL OF RECIPIENTS OR WHAT'S, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE THOUGHT IS.

SO KIM, IF I COULD JUMP IN AGAIN, SO BE HELPFUL.

YEAH, THE, AS WE, AS YOU MAY RECALL, YOU GUYS APPROVED IN YEAR TWO ADDING VENUES, RIGHT? AND SO FOR CONSIDERATION AND F Y 24, UH, WE WILL PROBABLY BRING BACK A HIGHER PROPOSAL BECAUSE YOU WILL BE EXPANDING AND ADDING, UM, BEING USED TO THE POOL.

BUT AS A REMINDER, IT WAS VOTED THAT WE SPEND ACTUAL, SO WE WILL TRUE UP AFTER WHAT'S KNOWN AS CLOSE TO, UM, AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT COMES IN FOR THE THIRD PARTY, WE MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO INCREASE FY 23, BUT WE WON'T SPEND ALL OF THE FUNDS.

RIGHT.

SO I, I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, IT, IT TOTALLY DOES.

LIKE THAT, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION PERFECTLY.

AND I GUESS JUST MY, MY THINKING OF IT GENERALLY IS THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL, WE'VE ALL LEARNED OUR LESSON FROM THE PANDEMIC THAT THESE, THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND, UM, IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO KEEP THINGS IN RESERVE, BUT, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE I WOULDN'T WANNA KEEP, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I WANNA BE ABLE TO SPEND ON THE COMMUNITY, LIKE WHAT, AS MUCH AS WE CAN AT ANY GIVEN TIME IN, IN A PRUDENT WAY.

SO THAT'S JUST MORE OF A, THAT'S JUST MORE OF A, A GENERAL COMMENT THAT I HAVE.

NOT A, I'M NOT SAYING IT NEEDS TO BE ANY SPECIFIC NUMBER CUZ I HAVEN'T REALLY STUDIED THIS AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN HOW THE PROGRAM'S GONNA WORK.

SO, UM, I THINK YEAH, AFTER WE, WE HAVE SOME IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THE MONEY WAS SPENT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT THAT, AT THAT POINT, MAYBE LIKE, UM, SIX OR 12 MONTHS INTO THE PROGRAM.

BUT I, I LOVE THE IDEA OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER, THIS, THIS THIRD GROUP OF JOINING THE VENUES AND MAKING THE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THEM, LIKE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SQUEEZE THEM INTO THE SAME PIE, WE'RE MAKING THE PIE BIGGER.

UH, SO THAT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT.

BUT ALSO KEEPING IN MIND THAT WHEN WE BRING WORTH A RECOMMENDATION, WE WILL ALSO BE KEEPING IN MIND FY 25, BECAUSE WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE ONE NUMBER, THEN YOU GO UP, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT NUMBER BACK DOWN IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE PRUDENT THAT WE CAN KEEP SOME LEVEL OF FUNDING GOING FORWARD.

WE WOULDN'T EVER WANNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, DROPPED WITH AN INCREASED NUMBER OF APPLICANTS.

OKAY.

SO WE MONITOR IT ACROSS ALL OF OUR HOT FUNDED PROGRAMS. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

UM, YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE LIKE YOUR EXPERTISE IN EXPLAINING ALL OF THIS TO, TO US AND HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS ALWAYS.

AND, UM, YEAH.

AND THEN I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT EVEN THOUGH LIKE LOOKING AT NUMBER SPREADSHEETS IS PROBABLY NOT ANYBODY'S FAVORITE THING IN THIS GROUP, OR MAYBE IT IS SECRETLY, SO THAT'S AWESOME FOR YOU, BUT IT'S NOT FOR ME.

BUT LIKE WE, WE AS COMMISSIONERS, LIKE WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF OUR JOB TOO, IS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS AND, UM, SO THAT WE CAN ASK SONOVA QUESTIONS THAT MAKE SENSE AND, AND SHE CAN HELP US.

UM, BUT YEAH, SO THAT IS, THAT'S GREAT.

UM, YEAH, SO IT'S SUPER TO SEE ALL THAT MONEY, YOU KNOW, IN THE BANK AND POTENTIALLY AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THAT WE'VE GOT A REALLY HEALTHY BUDGET GOING INTO THIS.

UM, YEAH.

AND SO THEN THE NEXT PART OF IT, AGAIN, IS JUST FOR US AS A COMMISSION WORKING WITH, WITH THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT OUR, THAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS GOOD ABOUT THE WAY THAT THE FUNDS, THEY WERE ABLE TO SPEND THE FUNDS AND TO, YOU KNOW, HELP ELEVATE THEIR CAREERS.

UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS COMMERCIAL MUSIC, SO IT DOES DIFFER FROM THE ARTS GRANTS IN, IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEANT, THIS IS MEANT TO BE AN

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ECONOMIC DRIVER WITH THE, WITH A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SORRY, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, NO, I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU.

UH, JEFFERSON PATERSON, THE COMMISSIONERS.

YEAH.

UM, THANK YOU.

WHILE WE HAVE THESE NUMBERS UP, UP HERE, UH, WHAT I SEE IS THAT THE HOT TAX NUMBERS WENT UP FROM 2021 TO 2022 FROM 53 MILLION BECAUSE, UH, ALMOST THAT WHOLE YEAR WAS COVID IMPACTED TO 134 MILLION.

MEANING IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO ME THAT THE HOTEL INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN HAS RECOVERED, UH, TO A LARGEST EXTENT, MAYBE FULLY OR MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN FULLY FROM, UH, THE IMPACT OF COVID.

AND WHAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT IS THE CONNECTION OF HOTEL STAYS TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, HAVE CONVENTIONS RETURNED TO AUSTIN IN THE SAME WAY? IN OTHER WORDS, CAN WE SEE A CONNECTION BETWEEN THIS INCREASE IN THE HOTEL STAYS? UH, IF THIS HAPPENED AT THE SAME TIME AS A DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CONVENTIONS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THEN THAT'S, UM, ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THE TOPIC THAT CAME UP FOR CONVERSATION TWO MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION WORTH IT? UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN OPINION HERE, I JUST WANNA KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY AWARENESS THAT CONVENTIONS HAVE DIED DOWN, OR HAVE THEY RETURNED TO THEIR PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS? I WOULD NOT WANT TO COMMENT ON, UH, MY SISTER DEPARTMENT OR VISIT AUSTIN OR THE HOTEL LODGING ASSOCIATION.

I CAN TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN BRING, UM, SOMEONE IN.

BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT LEISURE TRAVEL DID INCREASE.

THERE'S A LOT OF, IN-STATE TRAVEL, UH, THE AVERAGE ROOM RATE HAS INCREASED.

UH, BUT IN TERMS OF A CORRELATION, THOSE ARE JUST FACTS THAT I HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.

BUT I WOULD, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND HAVE THEM COME IN TO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CONVENTIONS VERSUS THE ROOM RATE.

BUT I DO KNOW LEISURE TRAVEL HAS DEFINITELY INCREASED, ESPECIALLY IN STATE, AND WE APPRECIATE UTS AUSTIN, THEY ARE ALMOST BACK ALL THROTTLE FOR THEIR FOOTBALL GAMES.

SO DEFINITELY KNOW THAT FOR SURE.

THANK YOU.

UM, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET NOT JUST THE FIGURES ON HOW MUCH IS COMING IN, BUT WHERE IT'S ALL GOING SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAVE A BASIC IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, WHO'S, WHO'S BENEFITING WHAT, UH, FROM THE HOTEL TAX? SO WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE CITY'S ORDINANCE ON HOW THE HOTEL TAXES DISTRIBUTED, UM, AND, UH, THE CORRESPONDING BUDGET PAGES, BUT IT'S ALL DISPERSED BY ORDINANCE.

A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE GOES TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, CERTAIN PERCENTAGE GOES TO THE TOURISM FUND.

UM, CERTAIN PERCENTAGE GOES OF HERITAGE IS FOR PRESERVATION AS WELL AS ART, AS WELL AS MUSIC.

SO IT'S ALL BY STATUTE FOR BY ORDINANCE.

AND SO WE CAN GET YOU THOSE BUDGET PAGES.

AND HOW HAVE THOSE PERCENTAGES BEEN DETERMINED? COUNCIL DETERMINES THOSE PERCENTAGES, AND IT HAS TO CORRELATE WITH THE STATE PERCENTAGE.

SO THERE'S A MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE DISPERSED FOR A CULTURE, A MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE DISPERSED FOR HERITAGE.

SO WE CAN GET YOU ALL THOSE STATUTES.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

UH, SETH COMMISSION PATERSON.

UH, YEAH, JUST A FOLLOW UP TO THAT.

SO DOES ALL, ALL OF THE HOT FUNDING THAT COMES IN THAT'S DEDICATED TO MUSIC, DOES IT GO EITHER INTO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND OR RESERVE IN THE BANK, OR ARE THERE ANY OTHER USES FOR THOSE FOR THE HOT, HOT FUNDS? SO LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH HOW IT'S COLLECTED.

SO THE FUNDS COME INTO THE CITY INTO THE MAIN HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND.

SO THERE'S A FUND CALLED HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX WHERE ALL THE TAXES DEPOSITED.

THEN IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CONTROLLERS TO DISPERSE TO THE RESPECTIVE FUNDS.

I E LIVE MUSIC, I E HISTORIC PRESERVATION, I E CULTURAL ARTS, I E TOURISM, I E CONVENTION CENTER, AND THEIR VARIOUS FUNDS.

AND THEN FROM THERE, WE BRING YOU THE DATA ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, AND THEN WE BRING THE DATA TO THE ARTS

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COMMISSION.

BUT THAT'S HOW FUNDS FLOW.

SO YOU COUNSEL, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO DISPERSE ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.

SO I GUESS I WAS JUST WONDERING, LIKE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROGRAMS THAT GET, BESIDES THE LIVE MUSIC FUND THAT ARE JUST, JUST FOR THE, JUST FOR THE SLICE THAT'S DEDICATED TO MUSIC.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT, THE, THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION? ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROGRAMS THAT GET FUNDED THROUGH HOT OR IS EVERYTHING ELSE FOR, WELL, WE JUST DO A MARKETING SPEND, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS IN THE PAST.

WE WORKED VERY DIRECTLY WITH VISIT AUSTIN, SO YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THESE MORE TARGETED, MUSIC FOCUSED AD CAMPAIGNS, DIGITAL CAMPAIGNS THAT ARE REGIONAL, NATIONAL, FOCUSING ON ALL THE DIFFERENT MARKETS THAT ARE COMING AND, UH, OTHER EMERGING MARKETS WE'D LIKE TO SEE HERE.

AND SO THOSE ARE REALLY HIGH LEVEL, WONDERFUL DIGITAL CAMPAIGNS WITH A TON OF DATA COMING BACK TO US.

SO, UH, WE SPENT $50,000 IN 50, UH, FY 22, WE'RE GONNA RAISE THAT TO 100,000 IN FY 23 AND GOING FORWARD, AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA DEDICATE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS.

SO THOSE ARE GONNA BE MORE LIKE ACTUAL TICKET LINKS, UH, LINKS TO WEBSITES OF ARTISTS, BECAUSE WE GOT DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL THAT WE WANNA SEE MORE REVENUE GENERATION OF THE VENUES AND THE MUSICIANS.

SO THOSE CAMPAIGNS SPECIFICALLY PROMOTE LINKS TO SELL SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S A TICKET OR A VENUE TICKET OR AN ALBUM OR A T-SHIRT OF THOSE ARTISTS THAT GO DIRECTLY BACK TO THEM.

AND SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, THE VISIT US AND COME IN HERE AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THOSE CAMPAIGNS, OR THEY ARE VERY IMPRESSIVE.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

AND I MEAN, THAT IS, I THINK THAT MARKETING IS A, AN EXCELLENT USE OF FUNDING, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT DOES TEND TO PRODUCE A LOT MORE REVENUE.

UM, AND I'VE TALKED WITH VISITOR AUSTIN A. LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR MARKETING, AND WE ARE, THEY'RE ABLE TO COME INTO OUR NOVEMBER MEETING.

SO I'LL, I'LL BRING THAT UP WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AT THE END.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO.

PERFECT.

BUT OUR LAST CAMPAIGN OVER THE SUMMER JUST ENDED, AND SO I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE REPORT YET, SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT TOGETHER.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S BEEN PRETTY DARN IMPRESSIVE TO SEE THE ENGAGEMENT NUMBERS.

UH, WHEN YOU DO PAID CAMPAIGNS, YOU GET A, THERE'S AN ROI FOR THE VENUES AND THE MUSICIANS BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING THAT INVESTMENT TO REALLY, UH, GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THERE.

SO IT'S, UH, GOOD TO SEE THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE SEEING.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AWESOME.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M NOT ABLE TO SEE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ON SCREEN WITH THE PRESENTATION.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE, UH, WITH COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? UH, PLEASE, UH, SPEAK UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH,

[7. Discussion and possible action on the Music & Entertainment Division budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023.]

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 22, 23.

SORRY, BACK.

YES.

SORRY, I MISSED YOU GUYS.

I WAS, UH, WE HAD A WONDERFUL TRIP AND SO I'M GLAD TO BE BACK WITH YOU HERE THIS MONTH.

AND, UM, HEARD THAT THIS WAS A REQUESTED UPDATE.

HAPPY TO DO IT.

AND SO THIS WILL DEAL WITH THE BUDGETING FUNDS RELATED TO MUSIC FOR FY 23, 1 OF WHICH IS THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION BUDGET.

SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THERE ARE THREE FUNDS THAT, UH, COUNCIL HAS ALLOCATED FOR MUSIC.

THERE IS THE ICONIC MUSIC FUND, AND THAT MONEY IS FOR THE A E D C TO WORK WITH THE ICONIC MUSIC VENUES, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

AND AS YOU SEE, THE AVAILABLE AMOUNT FOR FY 23 IS 3 MILLION 5 75, UH, FOR GRANTS.

AND THEN THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION BUDGET, WHICH IS PRETTY STRAIGHT, YOU KNOW, IS ABOUT THIS EVERY YEAR, 2 MILLION 492, 950 $7.

AND SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION BUDGET.

SO THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT WE SPEND FROM STAFF AT THE VERY TOP, AND I JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT ALL INTO ONE LINE ITEM BECAUSE IT'S JUST A LOT OF STUFF AROUND, YOU KNOW, INSURANCE AND COMPENSATION.

UH, BUT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS ON THE DATA PORTAL.

YOU, THIS IS ALL PUBLICLY, UH, ACCESSIBLE INFORMATION FOR ANYONE.

SO THE MAIN BUCKETS THAT YOU'LL SEE FROM OUR BUDGET ARE VERY PROGRAMMING FOCUSED.

IF IT'S DEALING WITH STAFF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE SOME LI LINE ITEMS FOR THAT.

BUT OUR BIGGEST LINE ITEMS ARE FOR DIRECT SUPPORT OR PROGRAMMING SUPPORT FOR MUSICIANS AND CREATIVES HERE IN AUSTIN, FOR INSTANCE, UH, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE $60,000 FOR THE, UM, UH, FOR MUSICIANS, I CAN'T READ IT RIGHT HERE.

OH, IT'S RIGHT HERE.

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SERVICES FOR MUSICIANS.

SO THAT'S LIKE OUR STREET PERFORMANCE PROGRAM FOR $30,000 IN PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER IT'S PAYMENT FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS, THE PROCLAMATIONS, OR ANY OTHER CITY EVENTS THAT NEED MUSICIANS.

AND WE ALWAYS COMPENSATE $200 PER PERFORMANCE HOUR PER MUSICIAN.

SO FOR FY 23, WE HAVE $60,000 ALLOCATED FOR THAT.

UH, FOR ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES GROUP, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE, THIS DIVISION USED TO OVERSEE SOUND MANAGEMENT.

UH, THAT, UH, GROUP HAS TRANSFERRED OVER TO DSD.

AND SO THIS IS JUST, WE'RE STILL KIND OF PAYING THAT ACCOUNTING.

PART OF THE SIDE OF IT, UH, WILL BE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

YOU'LL SEE THAT AS PART OF OUR BUDGET, THEY'VE EXPANDED THOSE SERVICES TO INCLUDE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS THE OMB PERMITS.

IN FACT, IF YOU GO BACK TO OUR WEBSITE, UH, ATX MUSIC.ORG AND CLICK ON PERMITS, YOU CAN SEE THE MOST UPTODATE INFORMATION AROUND AMPLIFIED SOUND AND THE FEE SCHEDULE.

THAT WAS, UH, THAT IS JUST STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THE OMV PERMITS, WHICH IS OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMITS.

AND THEN THE NEXT BIG SECTION WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY CSAP GRANTS CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

THAT'S $1.5 MILLION IN GRANTS.

WE'LL BE WORKING WITH A PARTNER TO, UH, LAUNCH THAT HERE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.

AND THEN THE NEXT, UH, GROUP IS $48,000 EDUCATIONAL PROMOTIONAL PROGRAMMING.

SO THIS IS SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, WHICH IS, WE PAY UP TO $35,000 AND GUARANTEES FOR LOCAL TALENT AS PART OF THE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY SHOWCASES.

SO WE WORKED WITH THEM EVERY YEAR.

WE STARTED THAT NEXT LAST YEAR WITH AUDITORIUM SHORES SHOWS TO PAY ANY LOCAL MUSICIAN THAT WAS DOING ONE OF THEIR COMMUNITY SH UH, SHOWCASES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THAT AND WORK WITH SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST YEAR TO CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM.

UH, ALSO THE AUSTIN TORONTO MUSIC CITY ALLIANCE IS BEING REBORN NOW THAT COVID IS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE MANAGEABLE.

SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UH, TAKING MUSICIANS TO TORONTO THIS YEAR.

SO THAT IS ALSO GONNA COME FROM THIS BUDGET.

AND THEN OF COURSE, HAM DAY EVERY YEAR FOR YEARS, WE, UM, SPONSOR, UH, THE STREET BANNERS THAT YOU SEE ON HAM DAY.

AND SO WE'RE AN ONGOING SPONSOR AND PROMOTIONAL SPONSOR FOR THEM AS WELL.

AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF JUST SEE JUST THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE DIVISION OF HOW THAT KIND OF COMES OUT TO OUR BUDGET OF 2.4, ALMOST 2.5 MILLION.

SO IN ALL, IT'S OVER 8.5 MILLION DEDICATED TO MUSIC FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

UH, BUT WE HAVE A DIRECT CONTROL OVER THIS ELEMENT RIGHT HERE, AS WELL AS THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

BUT THAT IS ALL GRANTS FOR MUSICIANS.

AND, UH, EXCITED TO GET THAT ROLLING AS WELL, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, ERICA.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? CAN I FIRST SLIDE AGAIN, THE ONE BEFORE THE BREAKDOWN MM-HMM.

, WHICH IS GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, BUT THE, THE LESS DETAILED ONE, CAN I JUST, OKAY, YEAH, YEAH.

JUST WANTED TO TAKE A PEEK AT THAT.

COME BY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THE ICONIC VENUE FUND, THAT'S A ADC THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO ADC.

YES.

AND THAT WAS PART OF, AND SONO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT PART OF THE ILA THAT JUST PASSED COUNCIL THIS LAST THURSDAY FOR THE A E D C.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

IT WAS PART OF THE FIRST APPROVAL OF THE ILA.

YEAH.

WHICH IS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND SO A BIG CHUNK OF SELECT MUSIC.

OKAY, COOL.

WELL, IT'S HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO US TO SEE ALL THIS.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UH, LOOKS LIKE SUPER THRIFTY ON OFFICE SUPPLIES.

CONGRATULATIONS.

RUNNING A TIGHT, YOU HAD NO IDEA.

I USED 10 YEAR OLD FOLDERS.

IT'S SOMETIMES FUN.

YOU GET TO SEE THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WRITTEN .

IT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, BUT IT'S ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO CALL OUT.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S GREAT THAT THERE'S THAT MONEY GOING DIRECTLY FOR CITY MUSICIAN PERFORMANCES IN DIFFERENT WAYS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPRESSIVE NUMBER, UM, FOR A CITY, LIKE ALMOST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IT LOOKS LIKE.

SO BETWEEN THE SOUTHWEST, SOUTHWEST, AND THEN THE CITY PROGRAM.

UH, SO THAT'S REALLY GREAT.

AND I'M EXCITED, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT THE PANDEMIC HAS SETTLED DOWN SOME, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE REALLY AWESOME FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, THE PAID PERFORMANCES TO BE HAPPENING.

AND, UH, I GUESS I CAN SAY THIS CUZ HE'S POSTED THE NEWS.

WE HAVE A NEW STAFFER THAT IS COMING IN TO HELP US WITH THAT.

AND SO WE'LL INTRODUCE YOU TO GREG GONZALEZ NEXT MONTH.

CAN'T WAIT TO BRING HIM ON BOARD.

SO MUCH EXPERIENCE AND HE'LL BE, UM, TAKING OVER ALL OF THE ARTIST DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING WORK, UH, AND WORKING ONE ON ONE WITH MUSICIANS AND BANDS.

AND HE'S A GREAT ASSET, UH, TO THIS DIVISION.

WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HIM.

IS THAT GREG GONZALEZ? LOW? JUST GREG GONZALEZ FROM, NOT GREG GONZALO.

YEAH.

YEAH.

HE'S, HE GOES BY GREG GONZALEZ.

LOVE THAT.

I KNOW.

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AWESOME.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AN UPDATE ON THAT.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

SO I, I DO HAVE A, A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, CAN WE LOOK AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN FUNDS FOR MUSIC FISCAL YEAR 23? UH, CAN WE LOOK AT THAT SLIDE AGAIN? SURE.

THE, THE LESS DETAILED ONE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THE, THE ONE PRIOR TO THIS? YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

SO I COME FROM BUSINESS AND I SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS LIVE MUSIC FUND.

WE ARE PAYING MONEY FROM THE LIVE MUSIC FUND TO WHAT MAY BE THE LONG CENTER OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT TO ADMINISTER.

IF ONLY WE HAD THE RESOURCES IN THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION BUDGET.

NOW SHAME ON ME FOR THINKING THAT WE COULD OPERATE THE MUSIC DIVISION AS A PROFIT CENTER.

OKAY.

UH, BUT, UH, I WISH WE COULD DO THAT.

I JUST WANNA ASK IN A STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY, LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD IT TAKE? YEAH.

LIKE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE DID SOME ACTUAL BACK OF THE NAPKIN MATH.

I MEAN, IT WASN'T, IT WAS A, A DETAILED SPREADSHEET THAT I PUT TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE COST DIFFERENCE.

AND THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE ONCE YOU REALLY START BRINGING ON ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WHEN WE CAN INVEST THAT MONEY ALSO IN A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK THAT CAN BUILD UP THAT CAPACITY A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY.

AND SO THERE'S BENEFITS TO WORKING WITH OUR LOCAL THIRD PARTIES THAT HAVE THIS LEVEL OF EXPERTISE.

UH, I WISH WE COULD DO IT ALL, BUT THIS IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP, UH, IN THE MAKING.

I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY THERE, BUT IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP TO GROW.

YEAH.

WELL IF LONG CENTER IS GONNA BE ABLE TO RUN THIS, PRESUMABLY IN THE BLACK, UH, GOOD FOR THEM.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST STRANGE TO SEE US PAYING OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BOTH, BOTH LINE ITEMS ARE ON THE SAME BUDGET MM-HMM.

.

AND IF YOU JUST LIKE MOVE IT OVER, UH, WE COULD INCREASE YOUR FUNDING, BUT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

LOOK, LOOKING OUT FOR YOU GUYS, BUT YEAH, BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT'S JUST OUR STAFF.

MM-HMM.

, THEN YOU HAVE CENTRAL PURCHASING, YOU HAVE CENTRAL AP, YOU HAVE LAW DEPARTMENT.

IT'S A RIPPLE EFFECT.

YES.

SO IT'S NOT JUST ED D JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE.

I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY MORE COST EFFICIENT IN THE LONG RUN TO WORK WITH THE THIRD PARTY, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S A GREAT CAPACITY BUILDER FOR OUR LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS TO BE, UM, PARTNERED WITH IN THIS WAY.

SO IT'S UH, AN EXCITING, IT'S WIN WIN IN MY MIND.

WE JUST HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET THERE, BUT ONCE WE'RE THERE, IT'S GONNA BE MORE NIMBLE.

SO COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? UH, ANYONE ONLINE? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT? I DID.

HI.

YOU GO.

I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE AN EMAILED COPY OF THE PRESENTATION.

YEAH, WE CAN PUT THAT IN BACKUP IF THAT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION.

HAPPY TO PUT THAT INTO BACKUP FOR YOU.

COOL.

AND, AND YEAH, AND THAT BROUGHT UP ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ME, WHICH IS JUST THAT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE LOVELY IF WE COULD, LIKE, WHAT'S THE PRODUCT? I FEEL VERY SILLY ASKING THIS QUESTION, BUT YOU MENTIONED PUTTING IT A BACKUP.

LIKE WHAT IS THE GENERAL, CAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN I GO BACK AND I WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING WE SAW IN A MEETING BEFORE OR MM-HMM.

, I'M LOOKING FOR A PRESENTATION, I CAN'T, I CAN'T FIND IT.

WHAT'S THE CENTRALIZED WAY THAT WE ACCESS THESE THINGS POST? SURE.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION WEBSITE AND THEN CLICK ON AGENDAS IN MINUTES, AND THEN YOU CLICK THERE AND YOU GO FIND YOUR DATE AND ALL OF THE BACKUP SHOULD BE UPLOADED SO YOU CAN GO BACK INTO YEARS INTO TIME AND SEE THE BACKUP THAT'S BEEN PUT THERE.

AND SO IT USUALLY TAKES US, I MEAN, USUALLY WE HAVE EVERYTHING BACKED UP LIKE THE WEEK AFTER THE MEETING, IF IT'S SOMETHING NEW OR SOMETHING ADDITIONAL, UH, JUST LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANY TIME THAT YOU CAN'T FIND ANYTHING, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, THANK YOU.

UH, ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU.

THANKS ERICA.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

MOVING ON

[8. Discussion and possible action on 2023 Music Commission meeting schedule.]

TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

UH, IT'S A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF 2023 MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE.

SO THE IDEA RIGHT NOW IS, UH, THE FIRST MONDAYS AS WE HAVE, AND THEN IN JULY WE WERE REMINDED THAT JULY 4TH FALLS ON A TUESDAY THIS TIME.

AND, UH, SO EITHER WE HAVE THE MEETING ON JULY 3RD, THE MONDAY BEFORE OR MOVE IT TO JULY 10TH.

SO THAT IS THE CONSIDERATION.

KIM, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING OR SHARE ANYTHING? NO, I, YOU MIGHT ALSO NOTICE THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS SINCE WE'RE HAVING THE HYBRID MEETINGS, BUT I'VE PUT ON THE, ON THE, UH, SCHEDULE THAT

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IT'S THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ROOM.

SO JUST NOTE THAT THAT MIGHT CHANGE BACK TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

SO CLERK'S OFFICE SAID, GO AHEAD AND KEEP IT ON THE SCHEDULE.

AND WE'RE STILL REQUESTING THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ROOM, BUT THEY'RE PUTTING US IN HERE, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE HYBRID.

SO WE MIGHT CONTINUE TO ACTUALLY BE MEETING IN HERE FOR A WHILE LONGER, UM, TO, TO BE, YOU KNOW, TV I GUESS.

BUT FOR NOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAYING IT'S GONNA BE IN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, FROM WEEK TO WEEK, I'LL KEEP IT UPDATED IF WE'RE GONNA BE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

SO JUST NOT, NOT TO CONFUSE EVERYONE.

OKAY.

AND THANK YOU.

BUT BY THE WAY, WHEN, WHERE WE MET LAST MONTH, UM, WHATEVER THAT BUILDING WAS UP BY HIGHLAND MALL, UH, I FOUND THAT PRETTY CONVENIENT TOO.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE, THE REST, UH, THE REST OF YOU GUYS, BUT I LIKE THAT WAY MORE THAN MEETING AT THE MUSIC, UH, DIVISION HEADQUARTERS WAY DOWN SOUTH, SAID THE COMMISSIONER FROM NORTHWEST AUSTIN.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE ON, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD? I WOULD JUST PERSONALLY LOVE TO SAY THAT IF WE ARE CHOOSING BETWEEN MEETING ON JULY 3RD OR ON THE SECOND MONDAY, I WOULD PREFER JULY 3RD BECAUSE I CURRENTLY HAVE A REGULAR STANDING SECOND MONDAY OF THE MONTH GIG.

AND SO EVERY TIME WE MOVE THE MEETING TO THE SECOND MONDAY OF THE MONTH, I HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN MAKING MONEY AND MY VOLUNTEER OBLIGATION.

SO IF, IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR OTHERS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A LONG WAY AWAY.

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KEEP IT ON THE PERSON.

MY, MY ONLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IS, UH, USUALLY PEOPLE ARE OUT OF TOWN CETERA IF, UH, TUESDAY IS A HOLIDAY.

SO A LOT OF FOLKS MIGHT BE AWAY ON JULY 3RD REGARDLESS.

SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

YEAH, BUT ARE, ARE Y'ALL, I MEAN, KNOW WHO KNOWS THEIR PLANS FOR THE SUMMER, BUT IN THIS, IN THIS GROUP WAS THE CONSENSUS.

I, I JUST WORK, SO I'LL BE AROUND.

BUT I AGREE THAT I THINK THINK THE 3RD OF JULY FOURTH IS A FAMILY, FREQUENTLY A FAMILY HOLIDAY THAT INVOLVES TRAVELING AND THE 10TH MIGHT BE A BETTER, UH, A DAY.

BUT FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I'LL WORK, COME HERE ANY DAY EITHER WAY.

I THINK ALSO MORE SO THAN JUST US AS INDIVIDUALS, JUST LIKE MOST PEOPLE GONNA WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE HERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST OUT OF TOWN.

SO I THINK I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, LAUREN, BUT UH, I THINK, UH, IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE IT ON THAT, ON THAT 10TH AS OPPOSED TO THE THIRD.

UM, RIGHT.

WOULD UM, UH, ANYBODY LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR, UH, FOR, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

POINT 23.

YEAH, PLEASE.

SO WHILE I, I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, .

SO ON THE FIRST ONE, THE MONDAY THAT'S IN JANUARY, IS THAT, THAT WOULD BE MONDAY, JANUARY 2ND, CORRECT? I THINK WE JUST, THE DAY DROPPED OFF THERE.

THE DAY IS DROPPED OFF.

THANK YOU.

UH, I, I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS DROPPED OFF CUZ WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DECIDE OR IF THAT'S, UM, YEAH, IT WAS MEANT TO BE THE SECOND.

UM, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE ON THE, DOING IT ON JULY 3RD, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF MOVING AWAY FROM THAT IDEA, BUT YEAH.

IS STAFF, IS THAT A STAFF HOLIDAY OR, I MEAN, IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? I GUESS I'M JUST CONCERNED, LIKE I TOTALLY HEAR WHAT LAUREN'S SAYING AND I HATE FOR HER TO MISS MEETINGS, UM, .

UM, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT LIKE, BESIDES US, IT'S ALSO LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, CAN KIM, YOU HAVE TO BE HERE AND THE AV HAS TO BE HERE AND LIKE, IT MIGHT, YEAH, IT'S KIND OF HARD ON SOME PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE LIKE WANTING TO TAKE A, YOU KNOW, A LONG WEEKEND WITH FAMILY.

UM, SO THEN, WHICH LEADS TO MY THIRD QUESTION IS WHEN WE MOVE MEETINGS, DO WE HAVE TO MOVE THEM TO THE, LIKE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MOVE THEM TO THE NEXT MONDAY.

LIKE COULD IT BE LIKE THE FALL, COULD IT BE LIKE TUESDAY THE 11TH, UM, OF JULY THAT WE MOVED THAT MEETING? IS THAT POSSIBLE? OR DOES THAT LIKE REALLY COME UP THE WORD? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

YEAH.

WHAT ABOUT WEDNESDAY THE FIFTH? SO IT'S STILL AT THE TOP OF THE MONTH? YEAH.

YEAH.

TO, TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE JANUARY 2ND.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY, UH, IS GOING TO BE CELEBRATING THE HOLIDAY ON THE 31ST.

OKAY.

NEW YEAR'S DAY IS CELEBRATED ON DECEMBER 31ST.

SO THAT'S THE OBSERVED HOLIDAY FOR THE CITY EMPLOYEES ON FRIDAY.

SO

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USUALLY IF THE, IF THE HOLIDAY FALLS ON A, ON A SATURDAY, WE OBSERVE IT ON A FRIDAY.

IF IT FALLS ON A SUNDAY, WE OBSERVE IT ON A MONDAY, OR ELSE WE OBSERVE IT ON OBSERVED ON THE ACTUAL 4TH OF JULY.

SO IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE FRIDAY, DECEMBER 31ST.

SO THE, THE ISSUE, IT'S, SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR STAFF FOR, UM, MONDAY, JANUARY THE SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

AND THEN, SO SAME WITH MONDAY, JULY 3RD.

STAFF IS, IT'S NOT A STAFF HOLIDAY, IT'S JUST THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT BE OFF THAT DAY.

UM, SO YEAH.

THEN GRAHAM'S SUGGESTION, LIKE, COULD WE MOVE THAT MEETING TO JULY 5TH? UM, YEAH, YOU CAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON A MONDAY.

UM, I THINK IT WAS JUST ALWAYS, THAT WAS ALWAYS WHAT PEOPLE WANTED TO DO.

IT'S, IT'S A LOGICAL, BUT, UM, NO, YOU CAN MOVE IT TO, YOU CAN MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT DAY BECAUSE EITHER WAY WE WON'T HAVE A, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL, LIKE, A HISTORIC RESERVATION FOR ANY ROOM ANYHOW.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY YOU, YOU GET THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ROOM EVERY, UM, FIRST MONDAY BECAUSE YOU'VE HISTORICALLY HAD IT.

SO YOU'RE FIRST IN LINE TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, WHEN THEY START LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE.

UM, MOVING THAT DAY FOR A REGULAR BASIS, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE A LOT HARDER TO DO.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS ON THESE HOLIDAYS IS WE KIND OF GET BOOTED ANYWAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EITHER IT'S A STAFF HOLIDAY OR CITY HALL'S CLOSED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE END UP HAVING TO GO FIND A, A DIFFERENT ROOM.

SO IN THAT CASE, WE WOULD PROBABLY SEE IF WE COULD DO THE PDC ON THE TUESDAY OR THE WEDNESDAY, WHATEVER DAY YOU PROPOSE.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

WELL I THINK THAT'S, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION ON THAT PARTICULAR DATE.

SO JUST GOING DOWN THE SCHEDULED LIKE, SO JANUARY 2ND, THAT'S GOOD.

FEBRUARY 6TH IS GOOD.

MARCH 6TH IS GOOD.

APRIL 3RD IS GOOD.

MAY 1ST JUNE FIVE.

AND THEN CHANGING MONDAY JULY 3RD TO MONDAY TO WEDNESDAY, JULY 5TH.

FIFTH.

YEAH.

AND THEN I THINK THE REST IS GOOD.

AND SO THEN LAUREN, AND THAT WOULD BE JUST, THEN YOU WOULD ONLY BE MISSING ONE MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE THE ONE, THE ONE IN SEPTEMBER.

SO I, I ALSO HAVE A REGULAR WEDNESDAY GIG, BUT IT'S , I'M DON'T PLAN THIS AROUND ME.

LIKE, I'M REALIZING LIKE, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY TO, TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT, LIKE, ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY, LIKE EVENINGS, JUST EVENINGS ARE JUST GENERALLY BAD FOR, FOR ME, YOU KNOW, AND PROBABLY , YOU KNOW, I DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE GROUP, DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND UH, YOU KNOW, AND I WILL DEAL .

OKAY.

THANK YOUNER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR TRYING THOUGH.

SURE.

YEAH.

THEN I GUESS WE WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT ONE MEETING TO JULY 10TH.

JULY 10TH.

UM, COMMISS RENOS, SHE HAD A COMMENT.

SORRY, I SAW YOU RAISE AROUND A COUPLE OF TIMES.

NO, I'M A COUPLE TIMES.

I'M JUST GONNA MOTION TO APPROVE IT WITH THE JANUARY 2ND AND I WAS STILL JU DO JULY 5TH BECAUSE, SO YOU KEEP IT AT THE TOP OF THE MONTH.

UH, IT KEEPS A REGULAR SPACE IN BETWEEN MEETINGS AND KEEPS US IN WITH MOMENTUM.

SO MOTION TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR WITH JANUARY 2ND INSERTED AND JULY 5TH.

OKAY.

AND I ALSO, UM, I'D LIKE TO ADD, WHICH, UH, DISTRICT IS DOING THE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE TO THE SCHEDULE, SO WE'LL KNOW AHEAD OF TIME.

IS THAT RIGHT? WE, WE'VE GOT A LIST OF THE DATES, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE COMING AROUND AGAIN.

CHAKA DID DISTRICT ONE TODAY, SO, YOU KNOW, CAN WE, CAN WE PRESCHEDULE, UM, OR PUT ONTO THE SCHEDULE WHICH DISTRICT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE AS WELL? SURE.

UH, UH, KIM? YEAH, SORRY I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF.

I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE MONDAY, JANUARY 2ND DATE, BUT WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT IF YOU WANT.

SO, SORRY, KIM, WHAT IS WHAT TIME? SO YEAH, SO IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT, UM, THAT NEW YEAR'S DAY ACTUALLY FALLS ON, UH, THE FIRST IS A SUNDAY.

SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE OBSERVED DAY WOULD BE MONDAY THE SECOND, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'D BE CLOSED ON MONDAY THE SECOND.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND A DIFFERENT DATE IN JANUARY.

HOW ABOUT WE TRY TO MOVE THAT TO THE WEDNESDAY TOO.

SO WE HAVE TWO WEDNESDAYS AND, UH, ON MONDAYS THE REST OF THE YEAR.

YEAH.

UM, COMMISSIONER ELSE, WOULD YOU, UM, UM, TAG, UM, THE, THE MUSIC PERFORMANCE SCHEDULE TO YOUR MOTION AS WELL? UH, YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S, UM, IT WE'RE, OR JUST DO IT SEPARATELY? IT'S

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UP TO YOU.

NO, I'M JUST, I, I DON'T, NOT SURE IF WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST CONTINUE TO DO IT AS THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE CITY STAFF NEEDS TO SCHEDULE ROOMS AS OPPOSED TO WE CONTINUING PROGRAM, WE'VE ALREADY PASSED A MOTION OR, OKAY.

I DUNNO.

OKAY.

BUT, BUT IS IT, IF THIS IS JUST, UH, ARE YOU JUST TALKING ABOUT ADDING OR YOU JUST TALKING ABOUT ADDING IT TO THIS DOCUMENT SO PEOPLE KNOW PUBLICLY? YEAH, IT YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DOES NOT, I DON'T THINK IT REQUIRES, UH, UH, CITY STAFF IN INVOLVEMENT.

IT JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE LIST RIGHT HERE, IT WOULD BE A NICE THING TO HAVE ON THE, ON THE DOCUMENTATION.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WELL, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THIS LAST TIME AROUND IT ENDED UP GETTING CHANGED, YOU KNOW, ENDED UP GETTING BUMPED AROUND BECAUSE WE HAD DIFFERENT THINGS, UNEXPECTED THINGS COME UP.

AND SO WOULD IT CAUSE MORE CONFUSION OR UPKEEP TO BE CONSTANTLY UPDATING IT? I MEAN, IT'D BE GOOD FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH IT, BUT, UH, YEAH, I MEAN THIS SOUNDS KIND OF LIKE THIS JUST NEEDS TO BE AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT SO THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE PUBLIC.

SO I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SEPARATE, UH, DOCUMENTS.

CUZ AS GRAHAM SAID, LIKE THIS IS SO THAT STAFF CAN SCHEDULE US AND SCHEDULE ROOMS AND THEN YEAH, THE OTHER PART IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE OF US COULD MAKE, MAKE THOSE NOTATIONS.

YEAH.

UM, UH, KIM, UM, IS IT, IS IT ENOUGH IF, UM, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AND MYSELF WILL, WILL CIRCULATE A SCHEDULE, UH, THAT YOU ALSO HAVE AND WE JUST GO WITH THAT FOR THE MUSIC PERFORMANCES? OR DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING MORE FORMAL THAN THAT? NO, MUSICAL PERFORMANCES AREN'T REALLY PART OF THIS.

THIS SCHEDULE IS SO THAT THE, THE PEOPLE HERE AT CITY HALL CAN RESERVE ROOMS, RIGHT? SO WHAT HAPPENS IS COUNCIL GETS FIRST DIBS ON THE ROOMS FOR THEIR SCHEDULES AND THEN, THEN THEY OPEN IT UP AND THEN FOR, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONS YEAH.

GET TO, YOU KNOW, THEIR ROOMS. AND SO THEY JUST MAKE A YEARLONG SCHEDULE.

SO BASICALLY WE JUST NEED THE DATE AND THE TIME.

IT WILL BE THE SAME.

IT'LL BE SIX 30 AND THEN WE NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT LOCATION IF WE HAVE IT, WE CAN PUT TBD IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, CUZ WE DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

THEY DIVVY THOSE ROOMS OUT, YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERYBODY GETS THEIR SPACE.

GOT PREGNANCY, UH, COMMISSION ENTAL ALSO.

THANK YOU.

UH, KIM, UH, LET'S HANDLE IT.

SEPARAT WITHDRAWN.

WITHDRAW MY RECOMMENDATION.

LET'S, LET'S HANDLE IT SEPARATELY.

YES.

THANK YOU.

I ALREADY FIGURED OUT DISTRICT 10 IS JULY .

WE COULD, WE COULD GO AROUND THE NEXT TIME TOO AND JUST REITERATE IT.

UH, COMMISSION REYNOLDS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UH, PLEASE, UH, JUST, UH, RESTATING YOUR MOTION.

OKAY.

AND IF THERE'S A SECOND MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR WITH JANUARY FORK AND JULY 5TH ADDED, UM, TO THE .

THANK YOU.

THERE'S A MOTION IS, UH, BY COMMISSIONER REYNOLDS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER.

GOLD SECONDS.

ALL THOSE WHO APPROVE ALL THOSE WHO FAVOR? YEAH.

UH, THOSE OPPOSED, RIGHT.

THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THE

[9. Discussion and possible action regarding Urban Core Land Use Working Group membership.]

LAST TOPIC ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING URBAN CORE LAND USE WORKING GROUP MEMBERSHIP.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING HERE IS THAT, UH, TODAY'S DISCUSSION, UM, IS AROUND, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, FIGURING OUT WHICH MEMBERS ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THE WORKING GROUP.

UH, THE MOTION TO ESTABLISH THE WORKING GROUP WAS ALREADY, UM, UH, APPROVED IN THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING.

UM, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD HERE ON THE TOPIC.

YEAH.

UH, SO YEAH, JUST A QUICK UPDATE.

SO I, I DID, THIS IS A JOINT WORKING GROUP WITH ARTS.

UM, THEY HAVE, THEY SELECTED THREE COMMISSIONERS, UH, FROM ARTS TO BE ON THIS.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN DO UP TO FIVE, BUT WE SHOULD, THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST THREE OF US.

UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THIS GROUP ALSO.

AND BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION IN THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING, UM, SOME, AT LEAST ONE PERSON FROM THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY AS PART OF THIS GROUP, UH, I TALKED, VAL AND I TALKED WITH, UH, DAVID GRAY FROM THE CITY BECAUSE, UH, COMMISSIONER PI HAD RA RAISED THE QUESTION OF HAVING CITY INPUT AS WELL.

SO LIKE, WE COULD UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT'S POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WHEN THE CITY OWNS LAND AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN BE ASKED OF DEVELOPERS OR HOW THAT THOSE NEGOTIATIONS CAN GO.

AND, UH, DAVID GRAY,

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WHO'S THE NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, HIS RECOMMENDATION ON THAT WAS NOT THAT WE HAVE A CITY STAFFER DIRECTLY IN THE GROUP, OR I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT THAT, BUT THAT WE USE THE CITY AS A RESOURCE FOR QUESTIONS SO WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY COME AND PRESENT.

AND, UM, SO HE JUST SUGGESTED THAT WE WORK WITH OUR, OUR USUAL EDD STAFF.

SO WHEN THE WORKING GROUP HAS A QUESTION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CONTACT STAFF AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS, OR WE NEED A PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS, CAN YOU HELP US GET THE RIGHT PERSON OR THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO, TO OUR GROUP? UM, SO THAT'S HOW THE CITY END OF THAT SHOULD WORK.

UM, AND I TALKED WITH, UH, VICE CHAIR, UH, SCHALK FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION, AND, UH, SHE WAS IN AGREEMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING REAL ESTATE PERSON THERE, UM, POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, A VENUE OWNER OR A COUPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE MUSIC OR THEATER OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE FROM THE ARTS THAT WE, WE DO WANNA HAVE A BALANCED, UM, REPRESENTATION FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR MUSIC AND ARTS.

UH, BUT WHAT WOULD PROBABLY, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THIS MEETING, UM, IS WE'LL CHOOSE THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT.

AND I, I WOULD, I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT.

UM, AND THEN ONCE WE MEET JOINTLY WITH THE ARTS COMMISSIONERS IN THAT GROUP, WE'LL DISCUSS, UH, OUTREACH TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR THE GROUP.

AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION, LIKE WHO'S, HERE'S WHO'S ON THE, UM, HERE'S, HERE'S WHO, WHO ARE COMMITTEE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THE GROUP.

SO WE DO, WE DEFINITELY WANNA BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND HAPPY TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS OR HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY REACH OUT, UH, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN BEING IN THAT GROUP.

BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE IT SO THAT THE GROUP, UM, AND WE DID THIS WITH THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP, AND I THINK IT, IT WENT WELL WITH HAVING THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE IN THE GROUP THEN, UH, DISCUSS AND DETERMINE HOW TO DO OUTREACH AND CHOOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

SO THANK YOU.

RIGHT NOW WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IF, IF NOBODY'S GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROCESS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF THIS GROUP, RAISE YOUR HAND AND, AND THEN WE WILL MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MEMBERS AS PART OF THE WORKING GROUP.

UM, SO WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER AND CHARLOTTE, UH, PATTERSON IS IN THE MIX.

UM, ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS FOR THE WORKING GROUP? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

UM, WHEN YOU WERE, WHEN YOU EXPANDED THE SCOPE OF THE GROUP, YOU KNOW, BY RENAMING IT, UM, URBAN CORE, UH, WHAT WHAT IS YOUR INTENTION WITH EXPANDING THE SCOPE? SO INITIALLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER SPECIFICALLY, BUT, UM, THERE ARE JUST, THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR MUSIC AND ARTS JOINTLY TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON OTHER SIMILAR, I MEAN, BASICALLY THESE ARE REAL ESTATE DEALS AND, UM, WE CAN HELP MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS SHOULD BE FOR THOSE.

SO THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT VARIES.

LIKE SOMETIMES IT MAY BE ON CITY LAND, OTHER TIMES IT MAY BE ON PRIVATE LAND, BUT, UM, A DEVELOPER MAY BE ASKING FOR CERTAIN ENTITLEMENTS.

SO JUST AS A, AS AN EXAMPLE, STREAM REALTY ON SIXTH STREET, LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR ENTITLEMENTS FOR HEIGHTS AND, AND HISTORIC DESIGNATION, VARIS AND SO ON.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, UH, BASICALLY THAT KIND OF HORSE TRADING THAT GOES ON WHERE THE DEVELOPER'S ASKING FOR SOMETHING AND THE CITY'S ASKING FOR SOMETHING, THIS, THIS WORKING GROUP CAN STEP IN WITH THOSE PROJECTS AND, AND PUT TOGETHER A RECOMMENDATIONS LIST FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT.

AND O OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD BE FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON MUSIC, BUT THAT CAN BE SOMEWHAT FAR REACHING EVEN IN TERMS OF LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PARKLAND MIGHT BE MUSIC RELATED BENEFITS BESIDES JUST VENUE SPACE OR, OR REHEARSAL SPACE.

AND SO, UH, THE TERM URBAN CORE, I, AFTER TALKING WITH THE ARTS CHAIR, WE JUST, WE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY JUST DOWNTOWN BECAUSE IT DOES FEEL LIKE OUR DOWNTOWN IS EVER EXPANDING.

UM, BUT IT DOES AT THE SAME TIME FEEL LIKE MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, FROM DOWNTOWN OUTWARDS OR MORE CENTRALLY.

SO I FELT LIKE THAT WAS JUST THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT BOUNDARY TO PUT AROUND IT.

IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S A A LITTLE BIT VAGUE, BUT I THINK THAT THAT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY.

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YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND, AND THAT ACTUALLY MAKES ME MORE EXCITED TO POTENTIALLY VOLUNTEER FOR IT BECAUSE I HAD VOLUNTEERED FOR THE, THE GROUP AS IT WAS BEFORE, BUT I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OTHER IDEAS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT, UM, RELATED TO THAT.

SO, UM, THAT I THINK WOULD FALL REALLY WELL UNDER THAT PURVIEW.

SO, I MEAN, I I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE ALL GONNA FIND THE TIME FOR IT, BUT I, DEFINITELY HAVE THE INTEREST.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

UH, ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S TWO, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD IS SIGNING UP.

SOUNDS LIKE IT.

.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE AMONGST THE COMMISSIONERS? I SAW COMMISSIONER ONE.

NO, I JUST SAW THAT.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THREE COMMISSIONERS SO FAR.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

HOW, HOW MANY ARE WANTING FOR IT'S 3, 3, 3, 3 OR FOUR I THINK IS GOOD.

ARTS HAS THREE.

UM, THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER.

SO IT DOESN'T GET, CONVERSATION IS EASIER WITH SLIGHTLY SMALLER NUMBERS.

YEAH.

YEAH, I AGREE.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

WELL WE MIGHT BE ALL SET THEN, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE IS REALLY, REALLY WANTING TO DEVOTE SOME TIME TO IT.

OKAY.

SO THEN I, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION IF I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I'M WANTS TO DO IT.

, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT, UH, VO DO, CAN YOU MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE COMMISSIONER GO, LAMONE AND MYSELF ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE URBAN OR LAND USE WORKING GROUP ON THE MUSIC SLIDE? UM, I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, UH, THIS NEEDED A MOTION, DOES IT? YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE IT REQUIRES MOTION FOR PARTICIPANTS, SO I DON'T THINK WE DID THAT, UH, FOR THE PREVIOUS WORKING GROUPS.

OKAY.

MAYBE WE DON'T.

YEAH, MAYBE WE'RE GOOD.

I THINK GIVE YOU A MAIN NOTE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO SIGNED UP FOR THE WORKING GROUP, RIGHT? YEAH, I HAVE IT.

YEAH.

GREAT.

OKAY, ALL THANK YOU.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING.

UM, UM, YEAH, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

FUTURE AGENDA

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

ITEMS, WE'LL JUST DO THEM COLLECTIVELY AND THEN MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

UM, ALRIGHT, I HAVE ONE.

SO, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING A PRESENTATION ON MARKETING FROM VISIT AUSTIN.

OKAY.

WE ALSO HAVE THAT ONE THAT WE BUMPED FROM THIS MONTH, UH, THE NUMBER FIVE, THE MUSICIAN LOADING AND UNLOADING FEE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSICIAN LOADING AND UNLOADING FEE, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF EXISTING CITY RESOURCES.

YEAH.

WHAT ELSE? DOES THAT INCLUDE A, A PRESENTATION FROM TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT? YES, I BELIEVE SO.

SO WE WILL ALSO BRING IN DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSICIAN LOADING ZONES AND, UH, AFFORDABLE PARKING FOLLOWING AN UPDATE FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE? UM, WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CREATIVE SPACE BOND FROM ADC.

WOULD NOVEMBER BE THE TIME FOR THAT COMMISSION? YES.

YEAH, WE DO.

SO, YEAH.

UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING AN UPDATE FROM ADC STAFF ON THE CULTURAL TRUST.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER CARRYOVER ITEMS FROM, UH, THIS MEETING? NOT THIS MEETING, BUT PREVIOUS MEETINGS? THE DISABILITY TASK FORCE FOR CODA, UH, WILL BE HAVING OUR MEETING, UM, IN OCTOBER.

SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT WHAT WE'VE DISCOVERED IN NOVEMBER.

UH, WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE AGENT DIET, POLICE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON, UH, I WOULDN'T SAY, I WOULDN'T SAY WE NEED TO, WE, WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION, BUT I WOULD SAY, UH, UPDATE, UH, REPORT ON THE, UM, UH, DISABILITY TASK FORCE, UH, THE PRO THE CROSS-FUNCTIONAL DISABILITY TASK FORCE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH CODA.

DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WHOLE THING'S CALLED CHRIS?

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UH, IT WAS JUST THE, YEAH.

THE, UH, THE DISABILITIES, UH, TASK FORCE FOR CIRCUIT OF AMERICANS.

CORRECT.

I THINK ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT IF YOU DO DECIDE YOU WANNA TAKE ACTION, UNLESS YOU PUT IT INTO THE AGENDA ITEM, YOU CANNOT TAKE ACTION.

SO IF YOU DECIDED AT THAT OCTOBER MEETING THAT THERE WAS SOME MINOR OR MAJOR ACTION TO TAKE, UH, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT UNLESS YOU WARN THE PUBLIC THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

IT, IT, IT ALWAYS SEEMS HARMLESS TO ME TO PUT ON IN CASE THERE'S SOMETHING KIND OF IMMEDIATE OR SHORT TERM ACTION THAT YOU DECIDE IS, UH, IT IS RECOMMENDABLE.

FAIR ENOUGH.

DIS UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE DISABILITY TASK FORCE OF THE CIRCUIT OF THE AMERICAS.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, KEEP THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING STAFF UPDATE ON THE RFP PROCESS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND ON THE AGENDA IN CASE THERE ARE ANY UPDATES FOR, UM, NEXT MONTH.

OKAY.

GREAT.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? MOTION TO ADJOURN? OH, I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING HAS HAVE THE MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THE NOVEMBER MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.

YEAH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SECOND.

MY SECOND.

ALL WE GOOD TO GO? UH, AND, UH, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO ADJOURN AT THIS POINT.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

COMMISSIONER REYNOLDS.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

UH, SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN HERE.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, HELPING ME SURVIVE THROUGH THIS MEETING.

GOODNIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANKS EVERYONE.

YOUR FOOTSTEP FADES AWAY.

SOME GIRLS PRETTY WELL.

SMILE.

MORNING LIGHT.

PRAY EYE LAZY CURL.