Oct 05, 2022 Environmental Commission

IT IS ON PAGE TWO.

UM, 1, 2, 3.

FOURTH PARAGRAPH SHOULD READ.

UM, COMMISSIONER SCOTT MADE A MOTION TO MOVE THE QUESTION THAT FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

WE'LL MAKE NOTE OF THAT.

ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS YOU WANNA MOVE TO APPROVE? MOVE TO APPROVE THEM MINUTES.

THIS IS RAMER GUY.

SECOND.

UM, BY SHOW OF HANDS, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED.

SCOTT, IS THAT, UM, YES.

IS THAT AS AS AMENDED? AS AS AMENDED? YES, MA'AM.

UM, ALL THOSE OPPOSED HAVING SEEN NONE.

MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANKS FOR PROVIDING THOSE.

TWO, REVIEW AND APPROVE THE 2023 ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MEETING CALENDAR.

MOVING ON TO NUMBER

[2. Review and approve the 2023 Environmental Commission meeting calendar]

SO, UH, KAYLA DISTRIBUTED THIS TO EVERYBODY.

UM, WE'RE FOLLOWING THE SAME GENERAL FRAMEWORK THAT WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR YEARS, UM, WITH THE FIRST AND THIRD WEDNESDAYS.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE, THE DRAFT AGENDA OR THE DRAFT, UH, CALENDAR? THE, UH, RETREAT IS KIND OF A, UH, TENTATIVE DATE, SO THAT CAN FLOAT AROUND.

BUT, UM, WE TRY TO GET IT AT LEAST ON THE CALENDAR, SO IT'S ON EVERYBODY'S RADAR.

BUT, UM, ANY THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THE, UH, QUESTION? YES.

IS THE RETREAT GONNA BE IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE WE'RE ALWAYS AT? BECAUSE HOW'S THAT A RETREAT? JUST RESPECTFULLY.

I, I, WELL, IF YOU WANNA CHAIR, CHAIR UP THE SUBCOMMITTEE OF RETREAT LOCATIONS, THEN, UH, I WAS THINKING LIKE A PARK OR SOMETHING RIGHT? WHENEVER THE TERM WAS FIRST FLOATED.

AND I WAS LIKE, IT'S ACTUALLY JUST PDC, BUT WITH TACO DELI.

JUST KEEP IT, UM, YEAH, NO, THAT'S, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL DISCUSS A COOLER PLACE TO MEET.

UH, 20.

2020.

WE WILL CIRCLE BACK TO YOU.

COMMISSIONER CARI, WHEN THE TIME COMES.

JUST A THOUGHT.

YOUR NAME IS IN THE HAT.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN ELECTRICITY.

YOU ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I, I AGREE.

I, MY, MY IDEA, BUT RETREAT IS, IS DEFINITELY NOT A MEETING IN THAT BUILDING.

UH, UM, ALRIGHT.

UM, YES.

AND RECEIVED, UH, ALRIGHT.

UH, MOTION ON THAT.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR.

SECOND BY BERG.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

CAUSE THAT WOULD'VE MADE IT COMPLICATED.

SEEING EVERYONE RAISING THEIR HAND, ALL THOSE OPPOSED GOOD.

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UM, UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THANK YOU GUYS.

OKAY, MOVING ON TO

[3. Name: Park 290 Logistic, SP-2021-0095C]

UH, PARK 2 98 LOGISTICS, S P 20 21 0 0 9 5 C, UM, WHICH IS AT 11 6 53 DECKER LANE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

LOOKS LIKE A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR CUT FILL.

AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A STAFF, UH, PRESENTATION.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY, SO YEAH, I'M GONNA BE PRESENTING, UH, REQUEST BY FOR PARK TONIGHT LOGISTICS CENTER, 11 6 53 DR.

LANE, AUSTIN, TEXAS XP, 20 21 0 9 56.

MY NAME IS ENRIQUE MA TORRES.

I WORK FOR DSD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND BIOMED REVIEW SPECIALIZED SENIORS.

SO I'M GONNA BE, UH, HERE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY DATA, UH, IT'S LOCATED IN ING CREEK AND DECKER CREEK WATERSHED SUBURBAN WATERSHED CLASSIFICATION IN THE DESIRE DEVELOPMENTS ON AUSTIN FOOD PURPOSE, NOT LOCATED OVER THE EDWARD AQUIFER, REACHER ZONE, NOT CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE ON PROPERTY AND ASSISTING CONDITION CONDITIONS ON DISTURB ZONING IS C H C NEST.

SLIDE PLEASE.

SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF PARK 90 LOGISTIC.

NEXT SLIDES PLEASE.

HERE A PICTURE OF THE ASSISTANT CONDITIONS UNDER DISTURB.

NEXT SLIDES PLEASE.

UH, HERE ANOTHER PICTURE TWO, UH, WITH THE, UM, CONDITIONS OF THE SIDE, SOME TREES.

UH, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE SYNOPSIS HERE.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF US 90, UM, AT DECKER LANE.

THE SIDE HAS A GROW SIDE AREA OF 66.30 ACRES.

OH, THE APPLICANT PLANS TO DEVELOP FOUR L E D CERTIFIED INDUSTRIAL BU BUILDING WITH APPROXIMATE 780,000 TOTAL SQUARE FOOT WITH FIRE LANES AND PARKING AREAS.

THREE, WATER QUALITY DETENTION PONDS, UTILITY, TENSION OF SITE TENSION AND LANDSCAPING.

IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS ROCK COURT LOADING DOCK AREA.

MUST HAVE A GRADE OF LESS THAN 4% FOR MOBILITY AND MUST BE FAIR, FAIRLY LEVEL SO THAT WHEN THE TRUCKS ARE PARKED AND AT THE LOADING DOCK, THE TRAILER TRAILER ELEVATION SIT LEVEL WITH THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING AND CAN BE LOADED AND UNLOADED WITH EASE.

THE TOP OF THE PROJECT LIMITS OF CONSTRUCTION RANGE FROM 6 0 2 TO 6 5 3 FEET DEVIATION OF THE SITE WAS CLASSIFIED AT RANGELAND, CONSISTED OF GRAZED HER BASES, LAYERS WITH CROPS AND SMALL GROUPING OF TREES.

NEST SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE VARIANT QUEST IS FOR, IS TO ALLOW CUTTING EXCESS OF FOUR FEET AND UP TO 22 FEET AND TO ALLOW FUEL IN EXCESS OF FOUR FEET AND UP TO 28 FEET.

NEXT SLIDE PIECE.

HERE'S, UH, THE SIDE, UH, WITH ALL THE CUTTING FILL.

AND THEN NEXT SLIDE.

SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE CO, UH, AND A PICTURE OF THE FIELD.

THAT ONE IS UP TO 28, 28 FEET.

THAT'S A SMALL AREA OVER THERE.

CAN YOU GO BACK ONE PLEASE? YEAH.

SO THOSE ARE THE CUT UP TO 22 FEET.

GOING NEXT ONE.

SO YEAH, SO THE, THE CUTTING FIELD IS GONNA BE RETAINED BY RETAINING WALL STRUCTURES TO A STRUCTURALLY CONTAINED FIELD.

MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF GRADING, RESIST, RESIST LATER PRESSURE OF THE SOIL, PREVENT MOVEMENT OF SOIL DOWNWARD AND INCREASES STABILITY.

SO THE VARIANTS RECOMMENDATIONS.

STAFF RECOMMEND THE VARIANTS HAVING DETERMINED THAT THE REQUIRED FINDING OF FACT HAVE BEEN MET.

STAFF ALSO RECOMMEND AND SUPPORT THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS IN ACCORDANCE TO APPROVE FAIRS.

EXHIBIT, PROVIDE APPRECIATED OUTDOOR SEAT AREA AS TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYEES TO TAKE A BREAK ONSITE RATHER THAN DRIVING TO ATTEND ALTERNATIVE LOCATION, PROVIDE AN ONSITE 12 WITH DRAINAGE SWELLS THAT NOT CONVEY, FLOW INTO ASSISTING ONSITE PONDS AND PROVIDE WALL ACCESS INTO THE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE LOCATED ON THE SITE PROVIDERS IS LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPING AREA IN THE OPEN SPACE.

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LOOK AT IT ON THE SITE.

AND NEXT PLEASE.

HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE RAIN TRAIL.

THE NOTRE CONVEY FLOW INTO THE SYSTEM ON SITE POND, AND ALSO THE AREA THAT THE CEILING IS GONNA BE LOCATED ON THE SIDE.

NEXT LIGHT PLEASE.

UH, HERE'S TERRACES STONE AND THERE WALLS WITH PLANTING.

SO THAT'S THE OPEN SPACE.

I ASK FOR TERRACES IN THAT AREA.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE GREEN AND MORE WATER FLOWING TO THE PONDS.

UH, NEXT LIGHT SPACE.

THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

YEAH, PLEASE COME FORWARD IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UH, HOPEFULLY HE'S GOT IT OVER THERE ALREADY.

UM, TEE IT UP AND JUST, UH, STATE YOUR NAME, UH, BEFORE THE PRESENTATION PLEASE.

UH, WHILE HE IS OPENING THE PRESENTATION.

CLAYTON STROLL.

UH, SO JUST TELL YOU TO ADVANCE AND WE'RE GOOD.

SO MY NAME'S CLAYTON STROLL.

I WORK FOR PACHECO COA WESTWOOD COMPANY.

UM, WE'RE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE TWO 90 LOGISTICS CENTER FOR A CUP FILL VARIANT.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF FOR LETTING US BRING THIS FORWARD.

UH, I WILL SAY IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A GOOD PROCESS WITH STAFF.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS, UH, GOING THROUGH VARIOUS ITERATIONS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY, WHAT'S BEST FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, WE'VE, WE'VE GIVEN, THEY'VE GIVEN, UH, SO WE THINK WE'VE COME TO A GOOD, UH, AGREEMENT ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD TURN OUT TO BE A REALLY GOOD PRODUCT FOR THE AREA.

SO JUST OVERALL, SO YOU CAN SEE THE PARK TWO 90 LOGISTICS CENTER.

I KNOW ENRIQUE SHOWED IT BEFORE IN GREAT PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY.

UM, SO FOUR INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, UH, TWO 90 DECKER LANE, UH, KIND OF NORTHEAST CORNER, UH, OF THE CITY AS YOU'RE HEADED OUTTA TOWN TOWARDS MAINOR.

UM, AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, THE, THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING IS VERY MUCH INTO DOING LEAD BUILDINGS.

UM, SO THEY RUN THROUGH THAT AND ALL THEIR, ALL THEIR DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY DO.

SO THIS BUILDING WILL HAVE LEAD ASPECTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, CUZ THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE TREND ON WHEN EVERYBODY'S MOVING TOWARDS.

SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY ON THE FRONT ASPECT OF THAT.

SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE PRETTY QUICK JUST SO Y'ALL UNDERSTAND.

THE, UH, THE, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET AND EVERYTHING.

SO THIS IS JUST SOME GRAPHS ON CURRENT INDUSTRIAL DEMAND.

I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IT MORE AND MORE AROUND AUSTIN AND THE, THE METROPLEX.

UM, AUSTIN IS BECOMING MORE OF A REGIONAL CENTER VERSUS JUST BEING ABLE TO BRING IN STUFF FROM HOUSTON AND, AND DFW WITH THE INCREASE IN POPULATION.

SO THESE BUILDINGS PROVIDE THAT AND THEIR, UH, UM, GOOD PRODUCT FOR OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

SO THESE ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE THE NORM AROUND TOWN.

UM, SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA START TO SEE A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS COME THROUGH, IF YOU WILL.

UM, AND THE, THIS IS JUST SAYING THE FUTURE DEMAND IS NOBODY SEES A SLOWDOWN, IF YOU WILL.

KIND OF KEEP, MOVE THE DIRT AROUND ON SITE, BUT WE'RE GONNA MOVE ABOUT A MILLION YARDS OF DIRT.

SO JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WE TRY TO THINK.

SO, UM, OUR COMPANY, UH, AND MYSELF AND MY TEAM, WE'VE DESIGNED PROBABLY A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.

MY BACKGROUND IS DFW BEFORE I CAME DOWN TO AUSTIN.

UM, SO THIS WAS WHAT I DO, WHAT I'VE DONE FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS, UM, ON THESE TYPES OF BUILDINGS.

SO WE'VE GOT AT LEAST EIGHT PROJECTS IN AUSTIN AND MANY MORE IN THE, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THE MARKET IS GOING TOWARDS THESE, THIS PRODUCT TYPE.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE IT MORE AND MORE.

AND EVEN WITH THE ECONOMY, NOBODY'S SLOWING DOWN, AT LEAST HERE IN THE, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO, CHALLENGES WITH THE INDUSTRIAL AND THE CURRENT CODE.

AGAIN, Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IT.

UM, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO COME ASK FOR IT.

UM, LARGE FLAT BUILDINGS TEND TO HAVE TO BE, UM, FULL NO SLOPE SLABS, UM, OVER MULTIPLE ACRES.

UM, MOST OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY HAVE ENCOMPASS THREE OR FOUR ACRES AT MINIMUM, UH, JUST UNDER ROOF.

SO WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE TOPO ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SITE, IT'S KIND OF INEVITABLE.

SO IT'S HOW DO WE BEST APPROACH IT AND BEST SERVE IT.

AS ENRIQUE SAID, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR TRUCKS AND SAFETY, YOU WANT 'EM ON AS SMALL SLOPES AS POSSIBLE, UM, SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN MOVE AROUND THE, THE PARK AS SAFE AS CAN BE.

SO WHEN YOU START CONNECTING DRIVEWAYS AND BUILDINGS AND, AND ROADWAYS, YOU START TO GET LIMITED ON WHAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO FROM A STANDPOINT OF ADJUSTING GRADES ON THE SITE.

SO DOCK DOORS ARE ALREADY FOUR FEET BELOW THE SLAB, SO YOU KIND OF START OUT AT A DISADVANTAGE IF YOU WILL.

SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OKAY, SO I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH ON SOME OF THESE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, UH, FOR THE SITE.

YOU CAN SEE A TON OF RED, WE'D GET IT.

UM, WE WERE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE THE BEST THAT WE COULD CONNECT ALL THE ROADS WITH THE DIFFERENT SLOPES, UM, AND PRESENT THIS TO, TO STAFF AS, HEY, WE'RE GONNA

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UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WORKS WHAT'S BEST TO MAXIMIZE THE SITE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF A USE.

SO OBVIOUSLY THAT CAME BACK AND SAID, LET'S TRY AGAIN.

LET'S WORK ON IT SOME MORE.

UM, SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE PROPOSED CHANGE WE TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT IN YELLOW FOR SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE WERE, WE REDUCED THE SIZE OF A BUILDING.

SO THE CLIENT WAS GOOD TO REMOVE SQUARE FOOTAGE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WE TOOK OUT SOME CONNECTOR ROADS, UH, THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE PARK, UM, WHICH AIDED WOOD AID THEM IN LEASING THE BUILDINGS, UM, NICE ACCESS TO EACH BUILDING, BE ABLE TO GO IN BETWEEN DIFFERENT ONES.

SO THEY TOOK SOME LEASING OPPORTUNITIES AND BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES AND WE SCALED IT BACK AND WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE, THE CUT FILL.

AND WHAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP IN BOLD IS JUST THE CUBIC YARDS OF OF CUT THAT WAS ACTUALLY WE WERE DOING ON THE SITE.

SO IT WENT FROM ABOUT 980,000 IN THE FIRST ONE TO ABOUT 207,000.

SO CUT IT BY A FIFTH, IF YOU WILL.

UH, WHICH ALSO HELPS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, HAVING TO MOVE DIRT, BURNING GAS, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, SO ALL IN ALL A, A GOOD ASPECT, BUT FROM THE, FROM THE TEAM, WE STILL, WE STILL NEEDED TO WORK ON IT A LITTLE BIT.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

OH, SORRY, THAT WAS THE FINISHED PRODUCT WITHOUT THE YELLOW APOLOGIZE.

UM, SO NEXT CHANGES IS WE LOOKED AT THE VARIOUS ASPECTS OF WHAT WE WERE GRADING IN, UM, TO, TO TRY TO REDUCE COSTS FROM THE DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, BUT NOT ADDING RETAINING WALLS.

UM, WHAT CAME ABOUT IS WE SAID WE COULD, WE COULD ADD RETAINING WALLS, WE COULD NOT GRADE OVER THERE AND WE COULD USE THOSE AREAS FOR THE AMENITIES.

SO THAT AREA ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, UH, THAT IS IN YELLOW, IF YOU'VE REMEMBER FROM ENRIQUE SLIDE, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S WHERE WE PUT IN THE PARK AND THE TRAIL, THE SEATING AREAS, THAT SORT OF STUFF.

SO WE LEFT IT MORE NATURAL, UH, BUT WE'RE GONNA ENHANCE IT, IF YOU WILL, BATING THE PARK IN THE SEATING AREAS, UM, IN THOSE ASPECTS OVER THERE.

SO WE TOOK THOSE AREAS THAT WE ADDED RETAINING WALLS AND LEFT WHAT THEY WERE TO ADD THOSE AMENITIES THAT ENRIQUE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

SO ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION EFFORTS.

AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DROPPED IT ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND YARDS OF CUT.

UM, SO, UH, MY PARTNER HALLS OVER HERE, UH, TONS OF ITERATIONS.

SO SHE, UH, WAS A BRAIN CHILD BEHIND ALL THIS GRADING, IF YOU WILL.

UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THE, ALL THE DARK RED, ALL THE DARK GREEN HAS DROPPED DOWN TO MOSTLY SOME LIGHT PINKS, SOME LIGHT GREENS IN THOSE FEW AREAS OF CONCENTRATED, UM, HIGH CUTS OR FILLS.

AND IF YOU'VE NOTICED, ON EITHER SIDE OF THOSE HIGH CUTS OR FILLS, THERE'S NO, UM, COLOR IF YOU WILL.

SO THAT MEANS WE'RE WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS.

SO YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AS EITHER HAVING A WALL SO IT'S MORE NATURAL BACK THERE.

SO ON EITHER SIDE OF THOSE HIGH CUTS OR FILLS, YOU HAVE MORE NATURAL DIRT, IF YOU WILL, TO TRY TO KEEP IT WHERE IT, WHERE THE DIRT'S SUPPOSED TO SIT AND WHERE EVERYTHING IS.

SO, NEXT SLIDE.

SO SUMMARY OF CHANGES, JUST A BRIEF OVERALL, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, TOP LINE ON THE CUT FILL VOLUMES, DEFINITELY BROUGHT IT DOWN BY A 10TH, IF YOU WILL, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING FROM MOVING AROUND DIRT.

SO DEFINITELY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF, UH, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THE SITE.

SO CUT, FILL VARIANTS.

WE WENT FROM 33 AND 22 DOWN TO 22 AND 28.

AGAIN, IT'S, THERE'S GIVE AND TAKES EVERYWHERE.

UM, THE SITE IS, HAS A BUNCH OF MOUNTAINS ON IT, SO YOU'RE TRYING TO PLACE THINGS AND MOVE BUILDINGS AROUND AND DO THE, DO THE BEST YOU CAN, UH, FROM THIS ASPECT.

SO, NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS JUST ALL THE STUFF ENRIQUE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE GONNA GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO PHASE EROSION CONTROL PLAN.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, STAFF HAS BEEN BEEN LOOKING, UM, ON A FEW OF OUR PROJECTS.

WE'RE TRYING TO ONLY MOVE CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF DIRT IN CERTAIN AREAS, TRY TO STABILIZE THAT MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AREA TO REDUCE, UM, YOU KNOW, DUST AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT AS, AS WE GO THROUGH.

SO, PROPOSED LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, THERE IS A, UH, UPON THIS THERE THAT ENRIQUE TALKED ABOUT, UH, TO SOME DEGREE THERE'S, UM, IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE, SO WE'RE KIND OF LEAVING THAT ENHANCING THAT WE, WE BUILT UP AROUND IT SO THAT IT COULD KIND OF STAY AS AS IT WAS.

AND WE, THEN WE HAVE THE POND ON THE, ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE FOR SOME WATER QUALITY AND OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SORRY, SLIDE AFTER THIS, THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENT.

SO THIS IS THE, THE TRAIL THAT YOU SAW.

AGAIN, THAT WAS THE AREA THAT WE WERE GRADING IN THAT WE PULLED IT BACK, DECIDED TO ADD THE, THE TRAIL ON THE AMENITIES, HOPEFULLY, UH, ENCOURAGING MORE PEOPLE TO STAY ON SITE, UM, AND THEN A AS THEY DO LUNCHES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN THAT, UM, ALSO HAS A LITTLE, LITTLE ASPECT INTO THE NEXT SLIDE.

I THINK IT'S THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM,

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THERE YOU GO.

OR GO BACK ONE.

THIS IS JUST SHOWN THE, THE TERRACE WALLS THAT WE ADDED IN.

SO THIS, WE HAD GRADED JUST AT LIKE A FOUR TO ONE, BUT INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, WE BROKE IT UP, ADDED THE TERRACE WALLS, GET MORE GREEN SPACE, UM, ALBEIT VERTICAL GREEN SPACE, UH, ON THE SITE.

BUT GIVE IT A NICE LOOK, GIVE IT A NICE AMENITY FOR, FOR THAT BUILDING OUT THERE.

SO THIS WAS TIES INTO THE, THE OTHER ONE THAT WE HAD.

SO WITH THIS PROJECT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE'RE BUILDING AN OFFSITE TRAIL, UM, THAT'S TRYING TO HELP CONNECT THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN.

SO YOU HAVE THAT TWO 90 EXPRESS TRAIL THAT RUNS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF TWO 90 TO THE MAINER TRAIL, THE MANARD AUSTIN TRAIL.

SO WE'RE PROBABLY 75% OF THAT CONNECTION IS BEING DONE WITH THIS PROJECT.

UM, SO THAT THEN IT COULD BE, BE FINISHED UP WITH THE, WITH THE NEXT ONE, NEXT SLIDE.

SO JUST SOME SITE RENDERINGS.

THIS WAS, IT WAS BEFORE, LIKE YOU SAID, NATIVE GRASSLAND.

JUST SOME, A FEW SCRUB TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

SO THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT THE PARK'S GONNA BE AFTER.

SO WE TRIED TO BUILD IN SOME AESTHETIC, UM, BLOCKS TO THE PARK, IF YOU WILL.

WE'VE GOT TREES, UH, AND THAT'S WHERE THE TREES ARE ON OUR PLANS, UM, ON THE MOUNDS, TRYING TO, TO HIDE THE BUILDINGS AS MUCH AS WE CAN, IF YOU WILL, FROM THAT, THAT RUNDOWN TWO 90.

SO HERE'S ONE GOING UP, UP DECKER TOWARDS TWO 90.

SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE BUILDING.

MOSTLY OF THE STUFF YOU CAN SEE ARE TREES THAT WE'RE ADDING.

SO WE'VE GOT A GRADUAL SLOPE UP TO THE BUILDING, KIND OF KEEPING THAT, WHERE THE NATURAL GRADE WAS, UM, FOR THAT BUILDING.

AND THEN PLANNING A BUNCH OF TREES AROUND IT TO KIND OF HELP SCREEN IT.

SO SITE RENDERINGS.

WE JUST WANNA SHOW YOU WHAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA SOMEWHAT LOOK LIKE.

IT'S NOT JUST DON'T THINK OF METAL BUILDING OR JUST A SQUARE CONCRETE BOX.

UM, THERE'S GONNA BE NICE ROCK ACCENTS, TONS OF GLASS ON ALL THE INJURIES.

THERE WILL BE THEIR TILT WALL BUILDING.

SO THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME SPANS OF WHERE IT'S, IT'S, UH, EITHER DOCK DOORS OR MAN DOORS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT ARE THE CORNERS WHERE ALL THE OFFICES IS.

THERE'S TRYING TO DO TONS OF STONE, NICE GLASS AWNINGS TRYING TO SEPARATE THEMSELVES FROM THE REST OF THE PRODUCT THAT YOU SEE TO HELP THEIR LEASING ASPECT OF IT.

SO THEY'RE PLAYING ON BUILDING NICE CLASS A, UH, WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS.

ALMOST DONE, I PROMISE GUYS.

I'M SORRY.

UM, SO JUST ANOTHER CORNER HERE.

UH, AND JUST SHOW YOU SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING, PUTTING IN SHRUBS TO BLOCK HEADLIGHTS, UH, FROM, FROM OTHER ASPECTS, PUTTING IN TREES.

SO AGAIN, ANOTHER, ANOTHER CORNER.

SO THERE'S ONE OF THE RETAINING WALLS THAT'S IN THE BACK, UM, OF THE, THE BIG CROSS STOCK BUILDING.

UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S RETAINING WALLS.

WE'RE SAVING SOME OF THE TREES ON THE BOTTOM SIDE OF THAT RETAINING WALL.

YOU CAN SEE THOSE IN THE TOP OF THE PICTURE.

UM, SO AGAIN, TRYING TO KEEP AS MUCH AS WE CAN, UH, POSSIBLE.

ALL RIGHT, SO THAT WAS IT.

UH, I WANT TO THANK STAFF.

YOU GUYS WERE GREAT.

UH, IT WAS A LONG PROCESS.

WE HAD MANY, MANY MEETINGS, SO WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME IN HELPING US WORK THROUGH THIS.

SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE AND, AND HOPE IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT FOR YOU.

ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

OF COURSE.

UH, LET'S MAYBE GO AROUND AND JUST STAY CLOSE, STAY CLOSE BY AND YEAH, STAY.

THE QUESTION MAY BE FOR STAFF OR IT MAY BE FOR THE APPLICANT.

OH MAN, RACHEL'S BACK.

SHE MAKING ME HUNGRY.

UM, REMOTE, UH, REMOTE, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? YES, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, PLEASE.

UM, I JUST WANT KINDA A COUPLE THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, UM, GIVEN, UM, WHAT YOU, UH, PURPOSE OF YOUR, UH, PROJECTS, UH, YOU PUT A LOT OF, UH, TIME AND EFFORT INTO IT AND IT, AND IT'S, UH, IN THAT, IN THAT RESPECT.

UM, I SEE, I SEE A LOT, UM, ABOUT IT.

THAT, THAT, UH, I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO SAY THAT, THAT I RESPECT AND, UH, AND APPRECIATE.

UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, TO JUST KIND OF BACK UP, WHY DO WE HAVE, UH, CITY CODES REGARDING CUT AND FILL? CAN, UH, CAN, CAN SOMEBODY, UH, SPEAK TO THAT ENVIRONMENTALLY FOR ME? FROM THE, FROM THE CITY STAFF, OF COURSE, UH, MIKE MCDOUGLE, EXCUSE ME, SORRY.

ALLERGIES.

MIKE MCDOUGLE, I KNOW ABOUT THAT.

SO, UM, THERE'S REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY TWO PURPOSES

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FOR GRADING LIMITS.

FIRST IS PRESERVE THE NATURAL CHARACTER.

UH, FUNDAMENTALLY, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN AND NOT HAVE A GRADING LIMIT, THEY COULD HYPOTHETICALLY TICK OFF THE TOP OF A HILLTOP, FILL IN THE VALLEYS.

AND TO GO TO THE MOST EXTREME PERSPECTIVE, THE HILL COUNTRY WOULD EVENTUALLY TURN INTO MAYBE A RAISED HIGHLAND.

SO THE FIRST PER PERSPECTIVE IS TO PRESERVE NATIONAL CHARACTER OF THE LAND, THE TOPOGRAPHY.

THE SECOND PERSPECTIVE IS THAT ANYTIME YOU FILL IN PARTICULAR ADD SOIL TO A SITE DURING CONSTRUCTION, IF IT RAINS, THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT SOIL TO WASH OFF SITE.

AND IN SMALL AMOUNTS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT SUCH A PROBLEM.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE AN ACRE OF SOIL WASHING OFF SITE, IT'S GONNA UP IN THE CREEK, IT WILL BE VERY BAD FOR THE CREEK.

QUIET, DESTRUCTIVE FOR THE CREEK OR LINE UP IN LOW LYING AREAS AND OTHER LOW LINING VEGETATION.

SO, SO EROSION CONTROL IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

AND ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL WAYS TO REDUCE EROSION AND SEDIMENT TRANSPORT DURING CONSTRUCTION IS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF FILL AND ALSO THE AMOUNT OF CUT, BUT ESPECIALLY THE AMOUNT OF FILL.

SO, SO YEAH, WE, WE DO LIMIT GRADING TO PROMOTE NATURAL CHARACTER AND TO KEEP SOIL IN PLACE DURING CONSTRUCTION.

IS IS, ARE THERE, UM, ARE THERE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, UH, THAT, UH, ARE COME INTO PLAY SUCH AS, UH, NOT ONLY JUST, UH, NATURAL CHARACTER, BUT THE ACTUAL FACT THAT IT IS NATURE? UM, IN OTHER WORDS, UM, THERE ARE AREAS IN THE WORLD THAT HAVE BEEN UNDISTURBED FOR, FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

UM, AND I'M JUST RETURNING FROM, UH, A TRIP TO NORTHERN MINNESOTA AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS PICTURE.

I'M GONNA JUST HOLD THIS UP.

CAN YOU SEE THIS? YES, WE CAN SEE IT.

THIS AREA HAS NOT BEEN DISTURBED, UH, LITERALLY FOR A HUNDRED YEARS OR MORE.

AND IF YOU STEP ON ANY PART OF IT, YOU, YOU, YOU DESTROY, UH, MOSS LIKE AN, I MEAN, THIS IS A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT, OKAY? IT'S NORTHERN MINNESOTA AND I, AND I, I, UM, I HOPE YOU, YOU, UH, ACCEPT THAT, THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THAT IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NORTHERN MINNESOTA AND, AND CENTRAL TEXAS.

BUT STILL, UM, THE CHARACTER OF CENTRAL TEXAS ALSO HAS ITS OWN, UM, EQUAL ECOLOGY IN WHICH, UM, UH, EVERYTHING WORKS TOGETHER.

AND IS IT NOT TRUE THAT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO PRESERVE? UH, AND WHY ARE WE, UM, JUST IN, JUST TO TRY TO, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT MY PURPOSE IS ON BEING, UH, ON A COMMISSION LIKE THIS? UM, ARE WE NOT, UM, GOING TO END UP WITH A, UH, A FLAT, UM, ISN'T THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE, UM, A MALL IN KANSAS CITY, UH, OR ACTUALLY KANSAS CITY HAS REALLY NICE MALLS, BUT, UH, IT, HOW, HOW ARE WE, HOW ARE WE, WHY IS THIS HERE? WHY ISN'T IT, UH, WHY DIDN'T YOU BUY PROPERTY THAT'S FLAT? UH, AND WHY ISN'T THIS, UH, PROPERTY BEING DEVELOPED, UH, FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS THE RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH CHARACTER OF WHERE WE'RE MORE OF THE, UH, I MEAN I'M JUST, THESE ARE JUST PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTIONS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BETTER CUZ I, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND AND, AND I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DISRESPECTFUL AT ALL OF THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS.

I, I TRY TO UNDERSTAND, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, I CAN, UM, TRY TO ANSWER PART OF YOUR QUESTION AND THEN HAND IT OFF TO THE APPLICANT.

UM, ARE WATERSHED REGULATION CODES ARE, UM, WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEM BASED ON OUR MS FOUR PERMIT FROM THE, THE STATE, WHICH ALLOWS US TO DISCHARGE STORM WATER INTO STORM DRAIN.

SO THEY'RE RARELY HAVE TO BE TIED TO WATER QUALITY.

UM, AND, AND SO AS WATERSHED PROTECTION, OUR MISSION IS WATER QUALITY DRAINAGE AND EROSION.

AND SO THAT, THAT IS WHERE OUR REGULATIONS COME FROM.

THIS PARTICULAR SITE DOES HAVE A, AN 80% IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT IF, IF IT'S NOT THIS PROJECT, ANOTHER PROJECT WOULD ALSO DEVELOP ON IT AND PROBABLY EXPERIENCE SIMILAR, UM, ISSUES.

SO, UM, WITH THAT I'LL HAND IT TO THE APPLICANT AND COMMISSIONER SCOTT I WANNA ADD TO THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE MENTIONED THE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT, WHICH I KNOW WE ARE WELL BELOW.

UM, AND, AND WE WERE CLOSER TO

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IT.

BUT WORKING WITH STAFF, REDUCING ROADS, REDUCING BUILDING SIZE, WE'RE WELL BELOW THAT.

OUR BUILDINGS ARE TERRORISTS THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

UM, IT, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE THE, THE CUT FILL FROM WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO THE, THE SITE WAS TERRORISTS, IF YOU WILL, AND OUR BUILDINGS ARE AT ALL DIFFERENT FINISH FLOORS.

SOME ARE ABOUT 20 FEET APART.

UM, SO THEY'LL KIND OF BE TERRACE THROUGH LIKE THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY WAS, IF YOU WILL.

UM, IT'S JUST BEING ABLE TO GET BETWEEN THOSE TWO BUILDINGS AND, AND CONNECT A COUPLE, UM, WHERE YOU GET INTO SOME OF THOSE CUT FILL ISSUES, UM, THAT, THAT WE HAD GOING ON.

AND THEN SECOND, OUR, THE, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR THIS PRODUCT A AS SHE MENTIONED.

SO IT, IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT TO, TO BUILD IT JUST, YOU'VE GOTTA CHECK ON THE CUT FILL STUFF.

SO IT, OUR APPLICANT DIDN'T GO JUST GO OUT AND BUY A RANDOM PIECE.

HE BOUGHT A PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS ZONED FOR SOMETHING THAT HE WAS ALLOWED TO DO.

UM, SO JUST ANSWER A COUPLE QUESTIONS, MS. SCOTT.

AND WERE YOU AT BOUNDARY WATERS? UH, NO, BUT THIS WAS, UH, ACTUALLY NEAR THE LOREAN DIVIDE.

SO IT'S KIND OF IN BETWEEN, UM, UH, EELY AND VIRGINIA, MINNESOTA.

UH, VIRGINIA IS WHERE THE IRON RANGE IS.

UH, THEN IF YOU GO, UH, ABOUT 20 MILES NORTH, UH, THAT'S, THAT AREA IS, UH, MOSTLY SUPERIOR NATIONAL FOREST.

AND, UH, THERE, THERE ARE, UH, THERE ARE JUST ACRES OF TREES THAT, UH, ARE, UH, ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED TO 400 YEARS OLD.

IT'S JUST AMAZING.

UH, AND THE, AND THE, UH, WHERE YOU SEE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE GROWING THEIR, UM, AND THAT, THAT NOBODY HAS TOUCHED FOR SO LONG, IT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW.

IT, IT, UH, IT'S KIND OF MAGICAL AND, AND IT MAKES YOU KIND OF STOP, UH, AND THINK PHILOSOPHICALLY ABOUT, ABOUT THE, ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, TO OUR ENVIRONMENT.

BUT AGAIN, I, I THINK THAT YOU'VE DONE A, UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF WORK AND YOU PUT A LOT OF PLANNING INTO THIS.

AND I, I DON'T MEAN AT ALL TO, UH, UH, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MY COMMENTS ARE, ARE ARE REALLY JUST, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO, TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT HOW WE'RE OVERALL LOOKING AT OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND, AND, AND OVERALL HOW MUCH ARE WE PRESERVING AND, AND HOW MUCH ARE WE GIVING UP.

AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, UH, PHILOSOPHICALLY I, I WANT US TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

BUT THE, IT'S NOT, SO, IT'S NOT REALLY EXACTLY MEANT TO, TO, TO SPEAK TO THE, TO YOUR PROJECT, UH, AS MUCH AS IT IS, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO BRING UP SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF NEAR AND DEAR TO ME.

I, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A, A LOT OF, UH, THOUGHTFUL WORK HERE AND A LOT THAT I CAN SUPPORT.

I, I I, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, MOR TREES PLANTED INSTEAD OF JUST KINDA LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE HERE AND THEIR TREE.

UM, OVER TIME, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU TAKE, UM, YOU TAKE THOSE, UH, 10 YEAR OLD THREES AND YOU AND, AND YOU, AND INSTEAD OF PLANTING TWO OR THREE OF THEM, IF YOU PLANT 60, IMAGINE, UH, HOW MUCH MORE IF WE CAN KEEP THAT MANY ALIVE IN THAT AREA, UM, HOW MUCH MORE OVER TIME YOU WILL, WOULD ACCOMPLISH IT.

THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE ONE, UM, SUGGESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE.

BUT, UH, OVERALL, I, I, I'M IMPRESSED WITH, WITH, UH, WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I LIKE THAT TRAIL THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN.

UM, I LIKE THE POND.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE SCALED THINGS BACK.

UH, SO THERE'S A LOT THAT I, I SEE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT I CAN SUPPORT.

AND, UM, UH, THESE OTHER COMMENTS, MINE ARE REALLY JUST, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK MY MIND AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, SO PLEASE JUST, UH, BEAR WITH ME CUZ I, THIS IS THE WAY I AM.

AND I, AND I APPRECIATE IT.

IT IS NECESSARY, UM, FOR THE INDUSTRIAL SITES TO HAVE A LEVEL FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION.

UH, I, MIKE MCDOUGAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, I, I DID WANT TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT, THAT YOU BROUGHT UP COMMISSIONER, THAT I THINK ARE, ARE VERY, VERY MUCH WORTHWHILE, WHICH IS WHAT IS BEING PRESERVED, HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN UNDISTURBED? AND NOW WE ARE GETTING IN THERE AND DISTURBING.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE TASKS OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE.

WE DO HAVE DIRECT REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER.

UH, BUT SECOND, BEYOND THAT, WE ALSO WORK TO LIMIT THE LIMIT OF CONSTRUCTION.

AND THE LIMIT OF CONSTRUCTION IS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT'S THE AREA THAT THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT'S MOVING AROUND IN REMOVING VEGETATION AND VERY MUCH DISTURBING THE SITE IN THE ACT OF CONSTRUCTING.

AND SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT, THAT, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT THE LIMIT OF CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN REDUCED THROUGH THE VARIANCE IN REVIEW PROCESS.

SO THERE'S AT LEAST THAT.

UM, AND I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, UH, AS FAR AS THE GRADING CONCERN GOES,

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YOU CAN'T HAVE STAIRS IN A WAREHOUSE.

UH, THE EQUIPMENT JUST DOES NOT ABIDE BY STAIRS.

AND SO THAT'S ONE REASON WHY THE, UH, LARGE SWATHS AREA REQUIRES SO MUCH GRADING.

IT'S NOT JUST SIMPLY A MATTER LIKE THIS BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE PDC.

THERE MIGHT BE STAIRS SOMEWHERE AND THE ELEVATION OF THE FOUNDATION CAN CHANGE AS YOU MOVE FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER.

OR THERE MIGHT BE RAMPS SOMEWHERE, BUT THE FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION OF A WAREHOUSE, IT'S BY NATURE, BY DESIGN, A LARGE BUILDING, IT'S GOTTA BE FLAT AND THAT NECESSITATES A LARGE AMOUNT OF GRADING.

BUT, UM, I, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT PRESERVING THINGS AND WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE CODE AND WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF VARIOUS NEGOTIATION, I, I THINK THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

BUT I WOULD ALSO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT IF, IF YOU DO WANT MORE TREES, THAT THAT COULD BE A VARIANCE CONDITION.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU SPECIFY HOW MANY MORE TREES, UM, NOT JUST MORE TREES, CUZ THAT COULD TECHNICALLY BE ONE, BUT IF YOU WANT MORE TREES, YOU COULD MAKE THAT A VARIANCE CONDITION.

I WOULD, UM, REQUEST ALSO, YOU KNOW, A QUANTITY OF TREES SUGGEST NATIVE SPECIES AND EVEN A, A DIAMETER OF REPLACE OR PLANTED TREES.

I THINK THREE INCHES IS NORMALLY A STANDARD.

ONCE WE GO PAST THREE INCHES, IT'S DIFFICULT.

YES, MA'AM.

I THINK FIVE, FIVE INCHES, UM, MAYBE YOU CAN'T FIND THOSE.

OH, OKAY.

I, I'VE BEEN ADVISED YOU CAN'T FIND THOSE.

UH, LIZ HAS A BACKGROUND IN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.

I DEFINITELY DEFER TO LIZ JOHNSTON ON THAT ONE, BUT, WELL, IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE I WAS IN THE INDUSTRY, SO I DO KNOW THAT FIVE INCHES WERE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND MUCH MORE COSTLY TO FIND.

SO, UM, I THINK THREE INCHES IS PRETTY SAFE.

AND ALSO, I WILL SAY THAT ONCE, UM, ONCE IT GETS TO A CERTAIN SIZE, THEN SURVIVABILITY IS A BIG CONCERN.

UM, SO ACTUALLY SMALLER TREES MAY GROW UP TO BE, UM, THE SAME SIZE AFTER 10, 15 YEARS THAN A LARGER TREE WOULD ANYWAY, JUST BECAUSE IT, THEY'RE HEALTHIER.

AND JUST TO ADD TO, TO LIZ'S POINT, WHEN YOU START WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, LIKE I, YOU SAID FIVE, I WAS LIKE, YOU CAN'T FIND THEM, YOU ALMOST CAN'T FIND FOUR.

SO ANY PROJECT THAT IS DOING THAT, THEY HAVE TO START A COUPLE, THREE YEARS EARLY, ALMOST GET THEIR OWN NURSERY, GRAB THEIR OWN TREES AND GROW 'EM THEMSELVES, WHICH IS VERY MUCH NOT ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, UH, FROM THE, THE MARKET AND THE CLIMATE AND WHAT THE LANDSCAPE PROVIDERS HAVE, IF YOU WILL.

SO IT'S DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY TOUGH.

BUT UNDERSTAND MS. SCOTT, I, I WONDER IF THAT'S, UH, THAT'S FOOD FOR THOUGHT RIGHT THERE IN TERMS OF IS THERE SOME SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE CAN DO TO, UM, ENCOURAGE SOMEBODY TO BE, UM, LOOKING AHEAD AND GROWING, UM, UH, APPROPRIATE DROUGHT RESISTANT, UH, NATIVE, UH, PLANTS AND, AND TREES.

UM, IT'S JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT THERE.

I JUST, IT'S JUST, JUST A COMMENT.

UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE, OKAY, THANK YOU.

LET'S GO AROUND THE HORN HERE.

KHI, OR YOU GOT ANYTHING? HEY, Y'ALL WANTED TO THANK Y'ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M WARY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.

I GOT A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN MAYNOR, UM, YOU KNOW, 2 90, 1 30 OBVIOUSLY AS Y'ALL KNOW, A VERY BIG INDUSTRIAL CORNER OF THE CITY NOW ON TWO PROMINENT, UH, HIGHWAYS.

UM, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE THAT TAKES THE TRAIL AROUND LIKE THE DIN WHAT, HOWEVER YOU PRONOUNCE IT, HOWEVER YOU SAY IT, RIGHT, TRAILHEAD, WHATEVER.

THAT IF YOU ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT OF A NUMBER THAT YOU WOULD AGREE TO.

UM, I THINK IT'S COOL THAT Y'ALL ARE EXTENDING IT DEFINITELY I THINK NECESSARY CUZ THERE REALLY AIN'T NOTHING AROUND THERE, BUT A BUNCH OF FIELDS AND WAREHOUSES.

UM, SO ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL DO IS FOR THE BETTER.

I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER SHERRA BROUGHT THIS UP ONE TIME WHERE SHE WAS LIKE, ARE Y'ALL PUTTING, UH, SIDEWALKS IN A PLACE? AND SO IF Y'ALL ARE EXTENDING BIKE TRAILS, RIGHT, UH, ARE Y'ALL GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT SIDEWALKS AROUND THESE AREAS AS WELL? WHAT'S UP WITH THAT? SO ALL THE, ALL THE BUILDINGS HAVE SIDEWALKS, UH, UP TO THEM.

AND PER CODE, IF YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK AROUND YOUR PROPERTY, WHICH THE TRAIL WOULD BE CONSIDERED THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CONNECTION TO IT, AN ADA CONNECTION TO IT.

SO THAT'S ALL IN THE PLANS AND ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE CONNECTED.

AND THEN THE, THE, THE OTHER TRAIL THAT WE HAVE ON SITE FOR OUR, OUR PEOPLE, IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THERE TOO.

SO, UM, BY CODE WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

UM, SO IT, IT'S THERE ON SITE.

UH, YEAH, FOR SURE.

UM, I THINK NO FOR THE QUESTIONS.

SHERA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YES.

UM, SO I, I DO SUPPORT THE ANY INCREASE ENTRY CANOPY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE PROPERTY, BUT I WANTED TO FIRST HEAR FROM YOU AND, AND YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT AND IF YOU HAD ANY, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT FOR

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I, I WOULD SAY WE'RE, WE'RE MEETING THE CODE FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

AND, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE GREEN WALLS THAT WE PUT PROBABLY TOOK ALL THE MONEY THAT WE COULD DO TO ADD MORE TREES, UH, ON THERE.

SO IF YOU SWAP 'EM, PROBABLY, UH, BUT I MEAN, YOU SAW THE WALLS THERE.

NORMALLY IF YOU DID NORMAL WALLS, THOSE ARE PROBABLY, THE GREEN WALLS ARE ABOUT THREE TIMES THE COST OF THAT.

SO WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD HAVE TERRORISED, IT WOULD JUST REGULAR WALLS AND REDUCED THE COST AND PROBABLY ADDED SOME MORE TREES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, DECIDED WITH STAFF TO DO THE VERTICAL GREEN, GREEN SCAPE ON THOSE WALLS, UH, TO MAKE THAT AREA A LITTLE MORE, UM, AMENITIZED, IF YOU WILL.

UM, SO IF WE SWAP 'EM, PROBABLY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, I WILL STILL JUST GIVE A, YOU KNOW, GENERAL RECOMMENDATION TO IT TO BE CONSIDERATE OF IT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

THE PROPERTY'S CERTAINLY NOT GOING ANYWHERE, SO YES MA'AM.

AND THEN GENERALLY WE ARE STARTING TO ASK EACH PROPERTY AND DEVELOPMENT PRETTY MUCH ABOUT, UM, SOLAR CHARGING OR SOLAR ENERGY AND THE USE OF SOLAR ENERGY.

AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE, UM, PROCESS, UM, THAT THIS PROJECT TOOK AND MAYBE CONSIDERING IT AND HOW THAT MIGHT COMPARE AS WELL TO THE OVERALL INDUSTRY.

LET'S SEE.

SO CIVIL GUY, UM, OUR, OUR OWNERS HERE, UM, IF WE, IF WE WANT HIM TO SPEAK ON THAT, BUT I CAN SPEAK OF THE INDUSTRY.

UM, SO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT SOLAR PANELS AND ADDING 'EM TO THE ROOF, UM, THAT DEFINITELY CHANGES THE LIVE LOAD, OR SORRY, THE DEAD LOAD ON THE ROOF.

SO IT CHANGES THE WHOLE STRUCTURAL COMPOUND OF THE BUILDING, UH, WHICH INCREASES THE, THE WEIGHT AND THE AMOUNT OF STRUCTURE THAT IS REQUIRED AS AN INDUSTRY.

IT'S FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.

ANYBODY THAT WE SEE DOING, UM, ON INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, UH, SOLAR PANELS, UM, GENERALLY THEY'RE, I MEAN THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GETTING MUCH USE, BUT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHARGING STATIONS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WE ARE GONNA DO, UH, ON THIS, ON THIS SITE.

SO WE ARE GONNA DO ELECTRIC CARVE COAL CHARGING STATIONS, BUT I THINK WE LOOKED AT SOLAR PANELS AT ONE POINT, BUT IT KIND OF, UM, THROUGH THE PROCESS OF IT AS LIKE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT VERY FEASIBLE, UH, FOR THESE BUILDINGS AND, AND THE AMOUNT OF LOAD THAT THEY'RE GONNA, WE DO, THEY ARE WHITE, UH, THE ROOFS ARE TPO, THEY'RE WHITE ROOFS.

UM, SO IT'S FULL REFLECTIVE, PERFECTLY WHITE, UM, ROOFS.

SO YOU GET THE REFLECTIVITY OFF OF THAT FROM A LEAD PERSPECTIVE.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, FROM FROM THAT IT WE'RE DOING SOME CHARGING STATIONS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION YOU MENTIONED THE TERRORISING, IS THAT, AND CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY WAS THAT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENCOURAGED TO SIT OUTDOORS AND HAVE THEIR LUNCH OUTDOORS, UH, THAT THAT SPACE WOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO DO THAT NOW THAT THERE ARE THE TERRACING THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT FULL, UM, LIKE GREEN WALL IF YOU WILL.

SO THEN, THEN THE, THEN THE LAWN OUT THERE, WHICH IS, I THINK I WAS THINKING OF, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, I THINK I WAS THINKING OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT JUST WANTED TO GENERALLY POINT OUT THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF OVERHEAD COVERING IF YOU'RE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE OUTDOORS AND EAT LUNCH IN BOSTON.

TEXAS'S.

YES, THAT'S WHAT THE, WE ARE PLANNING A BUNCH SOME TREES AND STUFF IN THERE YEAH.

IN THAT AREA.

SO PEOPLE COULD SIT UNDER THE TREES AND SIT OUTSIDE IF THEY WANT TO.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE, THE TRAIL THAT'S ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER THAT HAS A COUPLE SEATING AREAS THAT HAVE TREES, UH, AROUND IT TO TRY TO GIVE SOME SHADE TO IT.

FOR PARKING SPACES AND FOR STREET YARD, UH, STREET YARD.

YES MA'AM.

BRO, ARE YOU GOT ANYTHING NEED YOU ASK? UH, I'M GONNA START WITH SOME QUESTION.

AGAIN, THANKS FOR ENRIQUE.

THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION IS VERY GOOD.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND AS WELL, YOU'RE, UH, SUMMARIZING THE DIRECTION YOU'RE TAKING THE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, I'M GONNA START WITH TREES.

UH, YOU SAID YOU'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENT OF CODE.

WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT OF CODE? HOW MANY TREES? SO EN RECOGNIZE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO WE REQUIRE, UH, TREES FOR STREET, YARD AND LANDSCAPE.

OH, STREET YARD AND THEN PARKING.

UM, AND THERE'S A NUMBER, NUMBER THAT WE USE, UH, UM, THE AUTHENTIC C UH, FROM THE LANDSCAPE CODE.

UH, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE MEETING LIKE WHAT THEY NEED

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UM, SO, BUT IF YOU WANT MORE, IT CAN BE A CONDITION AND THEN WE CAN ADD IT TO THE OTHER EYES.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

HOW MANY IS, HOW MANY ARE THEY REQUIRED TO PLANT? OH, I CAN, I CAN CHECK THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW FOR YOU IF YOU WANT.

COULD YOU CHECK THAT NUMBER FOR ME? YEP.

NOW FOR THE APPLICANT, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, YOU'RE DOING 80% IMPERVIOUS COVER, IS THAT CORRECT? NO SIR, WE ARE NOT.

HOW MUCH IS IT? OH, IT'S ABOUT 65.

THERE YOU GO.

65%.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

SO THE REST OF IT IS GONNA BE BASICALLY MINIMALLY LANDSCAPED AND THEN OPEN AREA KIND OF THE WAY IT IS, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, IT'S, YEAH.

IT'S GONNA BE GRASS AND TREES, CORRECT.

THERE, THERE ARE, WE ARE PLANNING, I MEAN IF, I PROBABLY DON'T WANT THEM TO PULL THE EXHIBITS UP AGAIN, BUT THEY CAN IF THEY, NO, THERE'S NO NECESSITY TO, BUT THERE WE SHOWED KIND OF SOME OF THE TREES THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE ACTUAL SITE BESIDES THE, BESIDES THE STREET TREES AND THE PARKING TREES OR THE, THE PARKING ISLAND TREES THAT WE ARE PLANTING ARE ON ARE ON THAT EXHIBIT.

YOU, IT TAKES A COUPLE, EXCUSE ME, SORRY, MIKE MCDOUGAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICE.

IT TAKES A COUPLE MINUTES FOR THE DATABASE TO RESPOND.

SO WE'RE PULLING UP THE PLAN SETS TO, UH, TO GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU.

I USED TO WORK AT DELL, I CAN SELL YOU A FASTER SERVER.

I WOULD LOVE THAT.

I CAN PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

UM, OKAY.

UM, THIS IS FOR STAFF AS WELL AND I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS.

UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, CITY COUNCIL'S LOOKING AT, UH, MAKING A NUMBER OF CHANGES IN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, AND THEY'RE SET TO VOTE ON THIS IN THE NEXT MO MONTH.

IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T HAVE THIS APPLY, APPLY THAT WE CAN'T AS A CONDITION APPLY THE NEW OR THE ANTICIPATED CHANGE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE APPLY TO THIS? AND I'M THINKING PARTICULARLY OF THE, UH, PARKING AREA, CUZ IT'S GONNA BE SOME FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL, UH, CONSIDERING THIS IS A WAREHOUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH TRUCKS AND ALL THAT OTHER KIND OF FUN STUFF.

AND, UH, IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT IMPACT IF THAT PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES WERE APPLIED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT RELATED TO STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.

UM, AS PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WE DID, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ACTUAL MEDIANS BEING DRAINED OR STORM WATER DRAINING TO MEDIANS, BUT WE DID ASK THEM TO WHERE THEY COULD DRAIN SOME STORM WATER INTO THE GREEN AREA SO THAT IT, IT GOES, UM, OVERLAND FLOW TO BEFORE IT GOES TO THE WATER QUALITY POND.

AND SO IT'S SORT OF MEETING THE INTENT IF NOT NECESSARILY THE WELL IT ACTUALLY, I THINK IT, IT DOES MEET PART OF IT, IT DOES MEET THE OVERLAND FLOW REQUIREMENT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE SIX INCH CURB REQUIREMENT.

SO, UM, WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM TO SEE IF IT WOULD BE SOMETHING RELATIVELY SIMPLE.

UM, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW MOST OF THE PONDS ARE PRETTY DESIGNED FAIRLY WELL WITH, WITH ACTUAL CURBS.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEDIANS AND PENINSULAS YOU WOULD, THERE'S THERE, THERE'S NOT MANY.

AND, AND SOME OF OURS ARE ON THE EDGE OF, OF WALLS TO LIMIT THE EXISTING GROUND THAT WE'RE GONNA IMPACT.

SO IT'D BE REALLY HARD TO KIND OF RUN IT OVERLAND AND, AND DO SOME THINGS LIKE THAT FROM A COUPLE AREAS.

BUT I WILL SAY WE'VE BEEN PERMITTING FOR ABOUT 18 MONTHS NOW.

SO CHANGE SO AT THE VERY I I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT, UH, MY FEELING, MY, MY QUESTION IS THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING THIS US FROM YOU COULD MAKE THAT REQUEST.

I THINK THAT THEY'RE ALREADY MEETING THE INTENT OF THE OVERLAND FLOW, UM, PROPOSAL.

YEAH, I WOULD THINK SO.

LACK OF A BETTER TERM, WE SPENT THE MONEY ON OTHER NICE, UH, AMENITIES IF YOU WILL, ASSOCIATED WITH IT, UM, FROM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

UM, NOW YOU HAVE A LARGE FLAT SERVICE, WHICH IS THE ROOF AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE USING THE ROOF FOR SOLAR PANELS.

AND I TAKE IT THAT YOU HAVE A LARGE OPEN SPACE WHICH YOU JUST DESCRIBED, AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE USING SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE FLUSH, THAT ARE MOUNTED ON THE GROUND.

UH, WHICH IS A VERY COMMON THING IN SOME PARTS OF THE COUNTRY IS TO, YOU KNOW, MOUNT 'EM ON LIKE 10 FOOT POLES AND THEN DO THAT.

UH, I TAKE IT YOU DIDN'T, UH, DO ANY ANALYSIS OF CATCHMENT WATER OFF THE, UH, ROOF.

I MEAN YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF ACRES OF ROOF.

I WOULD, WE, I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST.

WE DID, DID WE DO AN ANALYSIS OF IT? NO, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT WE NORMALLY DO FROM, FROM IN THIS PRODUCT TYPE.

BUT UM, I WILL SAY WE, WE KIND OF

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BUT, UM, IN, IN THE INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT TYPE WORLD, UM, YOU DON'T REALLY SEE THE, THE RECAPTURE AND THE REUSE OF THE IRRIGATION AND STUFF THAT MUCH.

SO, AND TO KIND OF REPLACE THAT, WE DID THE MORE DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS AND STUFF THAT, UH, ARE IN THE CODE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF, OF IRRIGATION.

OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD USE, UM, IF WE JUST DID, YOU KNOW, YOUR WATER SUCKING PLANTS IF YOU WILL.

UH, DID WE EVER FIND OUT HOW MANY TREES? YES SIR.

SO IT WILL BE 131 TREES FOR STREET YARD AND 972 INCHES OF RE REPLACEMENT REPLACEMENT TREES.

SO 130 TREES ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT? CORRECT.

SO YEAH, 131 FOR STREET YARD, SO THAT WILL BE FOR THE FRONTAGE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN FOR REPLACEMENT TREES WILL BE 972 INCHES.

SO IT'S ACROSS THE APPROXIMATE LIKE 253 TREES MORE.

SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU EARLIER ASKED FOR A A, HOW MANY DID YOU JUST SAY? 200 AND WHAT TREE? MORE TREES? 243 TO BE A SAC 243.

SO YOUR EARLIER SAID, WELL YOU WANTED A NUMBER OF TREES, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN SOMEONE OVER YOU'RE FROM STAFF SUGGESTED, WELL, LET'S NOT BE VAGUE ABOUT IT.

LET'S BE SPECIFIC.

OKAY, WELL LET'S GO FROM TWO 40 TO THREE 50.

WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ASKED FOR A NUMBER.

I NO, NO, I, I AGREE AND I GOT A NUMBER AND IT'S NOT AN UNREASONABLE NUMBER.

I AGREE.

AND THAT I STILL GO BACK TO THE, IT WOULD GO TO THREE CALIBER TREES, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT THE THREE I IT WOULD HELPFUL TO HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT LOOK AND SEE WHAT YEAH.

SPACE IS AVAILABLE.

UM, THEY CAN'T BE PLANTED ON SLOPES OR NEAR THE RETAINING WALL.

SO THERE COULD BE A LIMITING FACTOR TO THE AMOUNT OF SPACE AVAILABLE OR WELL I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT LET'S SET A TARGET AND IF FOR SOME REASON THE TARGET CAN'T BE MET BECAUSE, WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE THEM TWO INCHES APART.

OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WANTED A NUMBER, WE GOT A NUMBER AND LET'S SAY IT'S THREE 50 AND IF YOU CAN ONLY DO 2 75, I'M FINE, BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DO BETTER THAN 236 OR WHATEVER THE APPROXIMATE NUMBER IS BECAUSE THE CITY HAS A GOAL OF GETTING TO 50% CANOPY BY THE YEAR 2050.

SO WE NEED TO PUSH THE LIMIT ON THIS, ON EVERY DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST YOURS, YOU KNOW, BUT WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO'S DOING SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW, PLANT TWO MORE TREES OR WHATEVER THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS IN ORDER TO MEET THAT CANOPY GOAL, WHETHER YOU'RE 2050 AND IT'S NOT IN A REASONABLE AS TO PLANT A FEW MORE TREES.

AND THOSE AREN'T, I MEAN THOSE ARE THE, I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE THE TREES WE'RE PLANTING.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT SAYS IN THERE THE TREES WE'RE SAVING, UM, ON THERE.

SO'S NOT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M SAYING PLANT MORE TREES NOT SAVE MORE.

I'M SAYING PLANT MORE AND I JUST, JUST BE CLEAR.

NO, I I UNDER UNDERSTAND YOU.

HUNDRED PERCENT.

MY WIFE TELLS ME I'M VAGUE SOMETIMES.

SO I'M TRYING TO BE REALLY, REALLY SPECIFIC.

DE DEFINITELY NOT VAGUE.

I, I PROMISE.

BUT I STILL GO BACK TO THE, IF WE, YOU KNOW, SWAP OUT SOME OF THE GREEN WALLS, THEN WE'D BE HAPPY TO PLANT SOME MORE TREES.

OH, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO SWAP OUT ANYTHING.

UH, NOW I HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING EV CHARGING STATIONS, HOW MANY ARE YOU GONNA BE PUTTING IN? FOUR PER BUILDING? FOUR PER BUILDING.

AND HOW MANY BUILD? FOUR PER BUILDING? FOUR PER BUILDING.

FOUR PER BUILDING.

BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THESE, THESE BUILDINGS HAVE LITTLE OFFICE IN, IN WAREHOUSE, SO THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BE IN THE BUILDING ISN'T REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF STORAGE SPACE AND YOU HAVE CORRECT.

FIVE PEOPLE WORKING IN A MILLION SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

SO HOW MANY INDIVIDUAL PARKING SPOTS DO YOU HAVE? I DON'T REMEMBER THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE HAVE AS MANY AS, AS PER THE CODE, PER THE CODE REQUIRES, WHICH IS MORE THAN WILL GET USED, BUT WE HAVE TO MEET MINIMUM CODE STANDARDS FOR SURE.

EV CARS IN 2030 AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE LIKE 2% OF YOUR PARKING SPOTS HAVE CHARGING STATIONS, THAT'S REALLY NOT GONNA BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR WORKFORCE GOING FORWARD.

THE DIRECTION I'M TAKING WITH THIS QUESTION IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU HAVE, AND I'M MAKING UP NUMBER, IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED PARKING SPOTS AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FIVE STATIONS, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT TOO BAD.

IT'S EVEN BETTER IF YOU HAVE 50 SPOTS AND HAVE FIVE STATIONS.

BUT YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET AT UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF EVERY MANUFACTURER OF CARS IS GONNA BE MAKING ONLY

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SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK.

I WE'RE ALL I COULD SAY IS WE'RE ADDING FOUR PER BUILDING CUZ THAT'S THE, THE STANDARD OF WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO THAT THEY FIND IN THEIR OTHER PRODUCT WORKS FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT THEY HAVE AT, AT THE, AT THE CURRENT TIME.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ANSWER I CAN GIVE YOU ON THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU OPEN UP THESE WAREHOUSES, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF IN THEM.

I MEAN, THERE COULD BE TOYS OR CANNED DRINKS OR RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, ANYTHING IN THERE.

ARE YOU PLANNING ON STORING HA ANY HAZARDOUS MATERIALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THERE? THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE PLAN? NO, SIR.

SO WE, THEY DON'T GO AFTER THOSE TYPES OF, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY, UH, THINGS THAT HAVE TO CONTROLS TOXIC WASTE SPILLS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS WORRY ABOUT DOES YOUR, DOES YOUR ENERGY DRINKS SPILL? YEAH.

WELL, AND IT IS PROBABLY TERRIBLY TOXIC, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROBLEM.

UH, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I GOTTA WORRY ABOUT THAT.

GOT ANY QUESTIONS? HI, I WAS JUST, UH, CURIOUS IF YOU, IF UH, IF Y'ALL WERE GOING TO INCORPORATE POLLINATOR GARDENS CONSIDERING, UM, LIKE HOW WE'RE DOING PRETTY BAD WITH BE RIGHT NOW.

OH, .

UM, I, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY SOME, SOME OF THE PLANTS, I'M NOT THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, SO, UM, I WILL SAY SOME OF THE PLANTS THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY PROPOSING WILL, WILL BE ABLE TO SUFFICE FOR SOME OF THAT.

UH, BUT ARE WE GOING, THIS IS A SPECIFIC AREA FOR BEES TO USE OR WHATEVER? NOT, WE'RE NOT, UM, BUT THEY'RE PLANTING SOME, SOME PLANTS THAT COULD PROBABLY HELP FROM THAT SCENARIO.

BUT I'M NOT THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, SORRY.

AND ALSO, I JUST, ONE QUICK QUESTION.

UM, I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED, UM, LIKE A LOT OF GLASS WAS GOING TO BE IN THE BUILDING.

DID, DID Y'ALL INCORPORATE THE, UM, STANDARDS FOR, UM, MINIMIZING THE REFLECTIVITY TO HELP SAVE THE BIRDS? SOLAR BIRDS? YEAH.

LIZ OR MIKE, DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THAT PERCENT IS FOR BIRD? UH, DETERRENT, YOU KNOW, IMPACT DETERRENTS? THE RECOMMENDATION WE RECEIVED IS, UM, 15% ARE UNDER.

REFLECTIVITY.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS YOU CAN DO.

YOU CAN, THERE'S OTHER METHODS, BUT IF YOU, THAT'S ONE, ONE TOOL AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE OTTMANN NEXT WEEK, BUT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN WE, WE GOTTA CHECK THE SPECS.

I'LL BE HONEST.

I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THAT QUESTION.

SORRY.

UM, THEY, THEY COME IN ALL, THEY COME IN ON .

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, BOTH STAFF AND APPLICANT.

A COUPLE KIND OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

UM, I'M FLIPPING THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION HERE ON MY SCREEN.

SO I THINK YOU'VE WALKED THROUGH MANY OF THE ELEMENTS, UM, LIKE THE LEAD CERTIFICATION ELEMENTS, UM, WITH THE WHITE ROOF AND THE, THE EV CHARGING STATIONS AND THOSE ELEMENTS.

DO YOU, IS THERE A CERTIFICATION LEVEL THAT YOU'RE REACHING WITH THIS PRO, WITH THIS SITE OR IS IT JUST YOU'RE INCORPORATING SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OF LEAD CERTIFICATION? SILVER.

UM, AND THEN THE TRAIL, Y'ALL ARE BUILDING THIS SECTION THAT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY OR ARE YOU ALSO BUILDING THE OFFSITE ONE THAT'S KIND OF GOING, WE'RE ALSO EXTENDING IT DOWN.

PUTTING IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF DECKER.

YEAH, THE, THE GREEN LINE THAT'S GOING DOWN TO CORRECT.

UM, I THINK THOSE WERE MY ONLY TWO MAIN QUESTIONS.

SO I GUESS FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT TRAIL OFFSITE, YOU'RE JUST BUILDING IT AND THEN PER GIVING IT TO THE CITY? THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AC CONDENSATE AND USING IT FOR LANDSCAPING.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION MA'AM? WE DO, WE DO.

EXCUSE ME, COULD I JUST SAY ONE THING? YES.

SORRY.

YES, THAT'S OKAY.

I WASN'T READY FOR MY QUESTIONS WHEN YOU CALLED ME EARLIER.

I WAS JUST GONNA MENTION TO THE APPLICANT THAT IF THEY USE CONDENSATE, THEY WOULD SAVE A LOT ON THEIR WATER BILL BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO AC A LOT OF SPACE.

IF THE INTERIOR OF THOSE BUILDINGS, WHICH AS, UM, MR. BREMER SAID ARE ACRES OF ROOFTOPS, THEN JUST USING THAT BIT OF WATER MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S, UM, NOT A DIFFICULT TASK THAT'S COLLECTING THE CONDENSATE

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COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

UH, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, YOU ALSO HAD YOUR HAND UP, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE WERE TALKING? YES, PLEASE.

UM, I, UH, I WOULD UH, I I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

UH, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, UH, TRAILS AND BICYCLES AND, AND SO FORTH, UM, WILL THERE BE A TRAIL, UM, ALONG THE PROPERTY FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BICYCLE FROM, UH, SOMEPLACE ON ONE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO SOME PLACE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY? AND, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, COMING AND GOING OR, OR ARE YOU TALKING JUST ABOUT ON THE PROPERTY? NO, THERE, THE, I GUESS THE TRAIL THERE, THERE'S A TRAIL THAT EXISTS ACROSS THE, THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN WE'RE EXTENDING ONE ALONG THE, THE WEST SIDE ALL THE WAY DOWN DECKER.

SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET FROM INTERNAL OF THE PROPERTY TO THAT TRAIL AND THEN GO TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO INTERNAL, UM, JUST SIDEWALKS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

MS. SCOTT.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WOULD CONNECT WITH OTHER TRAILS THAT WERE OKAY.

UM, NOW WITH, WITH ALL OF THE SPACE THAT'S ON THE TOP OF THE ROOF, UM, ONE H OF OF RAIN WILL PRODUCE, UH, QUITE AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF WATER.

AND IF YOU HAVE TREES TO TRYING TO KEEP ALIVE AND A DROUGHT CONDITION SUCH AS, UH, WE SEEM TO BE, UH, EXPERIENCING IT IN AUSTIN, IT ONLY MAKES COMMON SENSE TO TRY TO, UH, USE WHAT'S, UH, EXISTING CATCH, UH, CATCH IT, AND, AND THEN USE IT TO KEEP THE TREES ALIVE.

UH, AND ONE THING THAT, THAT YOU'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES IS THAT'S NOT THE PREVAILING, UM, THING THAT WE'RE DOING.

WELL, THIS COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED WHAT HAPPENED TO FLORIDA RECENTLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED WHAT'S HAPPENED TO AUSTIN IN THE PAST, UH, FOUR MONTHS.

I'M IN MINNESOTA.

I'M A, I'M A CLIMATE REFUGEE BECAUSE I COULDN'T TAKE, UH, A HUNDRED DEGREE TEMPERATURES EVERY DAY.

I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO AUSTIN IN THIS CLIMATE.

THIS IS CRAZY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT CONFER AND, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE TREES.

I'D LIKE FOR US TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER.

I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU CATCHING SOME OF THAT, THAT RAIN, UH, SO THAT YOU, WE COULD KEEP THE TREES ALIVE.

UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, PUTTING, UH, SOLAR, IF YOU CAN'T PUT SOLAR ON THE ROOF, THAT'S THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I HAVE SEEN BUILDINGS AND, AND AS A, A COMMISSIONER, UH, BRIER, UH, UH, MENTIONED, UH, MANY, UH, COMPANIES ARE NOW PUTTING SOLAR ANIMALS AT, THEY HAVE TO BE RAISED TO A CERTAIN LEVEL IN ORDER FOR THE GROUND UNDERNEATH THEM TO STILL BE VIABLE.

BUT THAT CAN BE DONE.

AND IT, AND IT CAN, UM, IT CAN ACTUALLY BE TO YOUR ADVANTAGE AND ACTUALLY IN THE LONG RUN, UH, COST YOU LESS.

UH, SO I, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE POLLINATOR GARDENS.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST THE BEES AND THE AND ALL THE INSECTS AND THAT KINDA STUFF? WHY WOULDN'T WE BE ASKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

UM, I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE OPEN-MINDEDNESS ABOUT, LET'S THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE, UH, FOR ALL OF US, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, AUSTIN COULD BE A, UM, I SAW AN ARTICLE RECENTLY ABOUT HOW, UH, WILL AUSTIN BE, UH, THE NEXT SONORA DESERT, AND I DON'T THINK THEY WERE BEING FACETIOUS AT ALL.

AND, UH, EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE THINKING, OH, THIS IS GONNA BE A REALLY GREAT PLACE.

I, I, I REALLY HAVE, HAVE MY DOUBTS ABOUT THAT.

WOULD, UH, SO I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE GET TO THE END OF THIS, I, UH, I'D LIKE TO COME UP WITH, UH, UH, A LIST OF SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAYBE SEE IF WE COULD COME TO SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS ON YEAH.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

I, I, I THINK WE'VE BEEN CAPTURING SOME OF THIS, SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO RUN THROUGH THE MOTION AND, UM, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL VOTE AND DISCUSS AND, AND AMEND AND, AND, AND IF, IF NECESSARY, VOTE ON THAT.

BUT, UM, WE'VE, UH, SECRETARY BRISTOL'S BEEN LISTENING AS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, SO, UH, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK I THINK YOU'LL BE HEARING SOME STUFF.

I MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANKS.

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SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

UNANIMOUS.

I REALLY LIKE IT THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO SHARE A MICROPHONE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT PLEASES ME.

I DO.

I DO TOO.

ME TOO.

UM, OCTOBER 5TH, 2022.

SUBJECT, UM, PARK TWO 90 LOGISTICS P 2021 DASH NINE FIVE C AT 1 60 53 DECKER LANE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VARY FROM LDC 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 3 24, I'M SORRY, 3 42 TO ALLOW, FILL OVER FOUR FEET, UP TO 28 FEET, AND REQUESTING TO VARY FROM LDC 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 3 41 TO ALLOW, CUT AND FILL OVER FOUR FEET, UP TO 22 FEET.

AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GILLON CREEK WATERSHED SUBURBAN DESIRE DEVELOPMENT ZONE, AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS VARIANCE WITH CONDITIONS HAVING DETERMINED THE REQUIRED FACT FINDING HAVE BEEN MET.

THEREFORE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

AND THESE ARE THE STAFF CONDITIONS PROVIDE, UH, A SH A SRE A TREE SHADED OUTDOOR, UM, SEATING AREA, UM, AS TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYEES, UM, TO TAKE BREAKS ON SITE RATHER THAN DRIVING TO ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS.

PROVIDE AN ONSITE TRAIL WITH DRAINAGE SWALES THAT NATURALLY CONVEY FLOW INTO EXISTING ONSITE PONDS.

PROVIDE VEGETATIVE VEGETATIVE WALLS ADJACENT TO THE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE LOCATED ON SITE AND PROVIDE TERRORIST LANDSCAPING AREAS IN THE OPEN SPACE LOCATED ON SITE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS.

ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS INCLUDE, RECOMMEND INCLUDING SOLAR TECHNOLOGY WHERE POSSIBLE RECOMMEND USING AN AC CONDENSATION CATCHMENT SYSTEM TO BE USED FOR LANDSCAPING.

ENCOURAGE LONG TERM TREE CARE PLANT FOR THE NEW AND EXISTING TREES.

UTILIZE NATIVE PLANT STANDARDS FOR BLACK LINE PRAIRIE, UTILIZE DARK SKY LIGHTING AND OUTDOOR SPACES.

WORK WITH STAFF AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO INCREASE TREES FROM 242 TREES TO 300, AND INCORPORATE PLANTS THAT SUPPORT POLLINATORS.

ONE SUGGESTION.

IF I MADE THE WORK WITH STAFF ON THE TREES, I WOULD SAY, IF POSSIBLE, UM, IF, IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, THEN UM, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE A CONDITION THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO MEET.

GOT IT.

DO YOU MIND REREADING THAT, THAT ONE CONDITION WITH, UH, ADDITION WORK WITH STAFF AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO INCREASE TREES FROM 240 42 TREES TO 300 IF POSSIBLE? IF I MAY OFFER, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION FIRST, AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE, THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION SECOND AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS.

SO I'LL SECOND YES, GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER.

BROWNER, UH, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST A SLIGHTLY REWORDING OF THAT.

UH, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD BE, BUT IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE MAXIMIZE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YES, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH IT.

IF WE CAN'T GET TO 300, HEY, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I WANNA MAXIMIZE.

THINK WE CAN MEET THAT, UH, WITH THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT WE HAVE ON THE SIDE.

I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT WORKS JUST AS WELL.

YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

SECRETARY, BRISTOL, CAN YOU TAKE A, TAKE A RUN AT THAT ONE MORE TIME WITH TO THE, TO THE MAX, TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL, SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF CITY STAFF AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WILL WORTH WITH THE APPLICANT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TREES ON SITE FROM 243, WHICH I THINK WAS THE NUMBER.

YEAH, SO THAT WAS THE NUMBER FOR THE REPLACE REPLACEMENT TREES.

THE TOTAL IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY WHEN YOU WERE SAYING, I'M SO SORRY.

UM, SO THE TOTAL IS LIKE 570 TREES.

SO LIKE WE CAN, WE CAN GET IT TO AN AGREEMENT TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF INCHES TO BE PLANTED ON THE SIDE WITHOUT ANY NUMBER.

AND I

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I'M SORRY.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

OUR APOLOGIES.

WE THINK IN, IN NUMBER OF TREES AND NOT NECESSARILY INCHES.

IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US THAT ARE NOT OKAY.

LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT , I, I, I DID WANNA OFFER THIS.

THE, UH, THE TREE LISTS ARE OFTEN, UM, MULTIPLE LISTS.

SO THERE'S A TREE REQUIRED TO HAVE A TREE IN 50 OF EACH PARKING SPACE.

THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR A TREE FOR SO MANY SQUARE FEET BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THEN THERE'S MITIGATION TREE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.

SO, SO I APOLOGIZE, UM, I WOULDN'T CALL IT A MOVING TARGET, BUT IT'S, IT'S, UH, CAN BE DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF TREES PLANTED JUST ON THE FLY, BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT LISTS, DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS BEING MET BY DIFFERENT TREES.

I WOULD SAY, UM, KIND OF MAYBE INSTEAD OF STARTING WITH 243, WE JUST SPEAK TO INCREASING THE NUMBER OF TREES BY APPROXIMATELY 50 TREES TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICABLE WITH STAFF AND THE APPLICANT AND, UH, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, YOU KNOW, OPTIMIZING SITE, SITE AVAIL THE SITE'S ABILITY TO, TO HOLD MORE TREES.

I, I, I THINK IF WE WERE TO SAY, UH, X NUMBER OF TREES, 50 TREES BEYOND WHAT'S ON THE CURRENT PLAN SET, UH, BECAUSE THE CURRENT PLAN SET PRESUMABLY WOULD, IT'S HERE BECAUSE IT MEETS CODE EXCEPT FOR THE VARIANCES.

SO, UM, YEAH, IF WE JUST SAID BEYOND WHAT'S ON THE PLAN SET, I THINK THAT WOULD GET US TO A VERY, UH, TO THE SAME PRACTICAL, A VERY, UH, TARGETABLE GOAL.

UM, AND IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO, CUZ I DO THAT AT HOME, YOU KNOW, AND I, AND I GET CREDIT FROM THE CITY FOR DOING IT.

DO YOU ME TO TAKE A RUN AT THAT AGAIN? SO THE, THIS ONE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITION WOULD BE, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT STAFF AND, UH, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO WORK TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TREES ON SITE BY 50 ADDITIONAL TREES AS COMPARED TO WHAT'S ON THE PLAN SET.

UM, INCREASING THOSE TO THE MAX MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICABLE PER SITE CONDITION AVAILABILITY.

A COMMISSIONER SCOTT? YES.

WITH, UH, REGARD TO, UM, THE, UH, OUTSIDE, UH, SEATING AREA, UM, OR, UH, BREAK AREA FOR, UH, EMPLOYEES.

UM, IF, UH, IF THESE, UH, TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR SHADE ARE, UM, THREE INCHES IN SIZE, UM, THAT SHADE IS GONNA BE KIND OF MINIMAL.

UM, UH, WOULD SEEM TO BE, AND I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO SEE SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT, UH, SOME KIND OF SHADED OVERHEAD, UH, STRUCTURE.

UH, SO AS TO MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF, UH, UH, PEOPLE WHO MIGHT END UP WITH HEAT STROKE OR, OR PEOPLE WHO WOULD END UP LEAVING AND NOT, NOT EVER USING THAT AREA.

JUST COMMISSION, SCOTT.

UM, IT'S IN THE STAFF CONDITIONS THAT, UM, PROVIDE A TREE, UM, SHADED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA.

SO IT IS IN THE STAFF CONDITIONS.

WOW.

IT'S SIMPLY, IT'S THE FIR THE FIRST OF THE, THE STAFF CONDITIONS PROVIDE A TREE SHADED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYEES TO TAKE BREAKS ON SITE RATHER THAN DRIVING TO ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS.

SO I, I BELIEVE THAT THE SHADE ELEMENT OF THAT IS ALREADY ADDRESSED IN THAT COMMITMENT.

BUT IF, IF, IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT KEEPS THE RAIN OFF, UM, AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I, I HAVE A, I HAVE A SHADED YARD, AND YET I DON'T REALLY WANNA BE OUT UNLESS I'VE GOT, UH, ALSO SOME OVERHEAD, UH, STRUCTURED JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO HOT.

UM, I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK, UH, JUST, JUST MY OPINION, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT NOT ONLY, UH, THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN, BUT AT THE WAY THINGS, UH, WILL BE, UM, POTENTIALLY IN THE COMING YEARS AND TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE, UH, SHADE FOR, FOR, UH, WORKERS, JUST FOR, UH, WORKER HEALTH AND SAFETY.

UM, SO I, I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE SOME, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL SHADE BESIDE THE TREES.

UM, AS, AS A, AS A SUGGESTION, UM, LIZ, WERE YOU GONNA SAY SOMETHING? IT COULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT THEY HAVE, WHICH WOULD THEN AFFECT THE SIZINGS OF THE PONDS.

AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT CAREFUL ABOUT, UM, BEING COM HAVING VARIANTS CONDITIONS COMMENSURATE WITH THE REQUEST.

AND I THINK THAT WE'RE KIND OF GETTING BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN, UM, TRADITIONALLY REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSION.

AND, UM, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT FAR FROM THE AC TIED DIRECTLY TO THE ACTUAL VARIANCE.

IF, IF, UH, IF THAT WATER IS CAUGHT AND USED TO, UH, WATER THE TREES AND THEN THAT, THEN THAT, UH, PROBLEM IS MITIGATED.

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UM, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE PRACTICAL.

I WOULD SAY.

LET'S, LET'S KEEP, LET'S KEEP ROLLING FORWARD WITH THIS MOTION THAT WE'VE GOT WITH THE, THE VARIOUS ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS.

UM, YES, THOMPSON.

ONE SECOND.

UM, AND, AND TO, TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH, WITH, UH, LIZ'S COMMENT, UH, YEAH.

THAT WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING WITHIN THE COMMENSURATE MITIGATION TO, UH, TO THE, TO THE ASK OR THE REQUEST THAT'S COMING FORWARD.

UM, YES, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

SO ARE WE GOING TO SUGGEST THE CONDENSATE FROM THE AIR CONDITIONING, WHICH WE NOW WILL BE MASSIVE AND WOULD BE GREAT FOR THEIR LANDSCAPING? YES, MA'AM.

IT'S IN, IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE MOTION.

IT WAS IN IT.

WELL, I HAVE TURNED THIS THING DOWN CUZ IT'S KIND OF CRACKLING, SO I APOLOGIZE.

ALRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE'VE GOT AHEAD OF THIS IN FRONT OF US.

SO, UM, WE HAVE AN, IS IT, ARE THOSE CONSIDERED, I GUESS IF THERE'S, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE REVISED LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE PUT IN THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT.

OBJECTION COMMISSIONER SCOTT, DO YOU OBJECT TO THE REVISED LANGUAGE? UH, IN ARE THE, UM, REFLECTIVE WINDOWS IN THE, IN THE REVISED LANGUAGE? I, I, I MISSED THAT THE, THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF, UH, OF, OF BIRD PROTECTION IN, IN THERE, CORRECT? THERE WAS NOT, BECAUSE WHEN WE ASKED THEM IF THEY WERE ALREADY, UM, UTILIZING THE BIRD REFLECTIVE GLASS, THEY SAID THEY WERE USING, UM, THAT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S CALLED SOLAR BLUE.

I'D HAVE TO CHECK THE ACTUAL SPEC ON THE NUMBER THEY'RE USING SOLAR BLUE REFLECTIVE GLASS, BUT NOT, BUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE OF THE RE REFLECTIVITY OF IT, BUT IT IS BY DESIGN, UH, LESS REFLECTIVE FOR THE PURPOSES OF DECREASING BIRD STRIKES.

SO WE DID, SO THERE IS NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITION IN THE MOTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF US RELATED TO THAT BECAUSE OF THE USE OF THAT PRODUCT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO.

COULD, COULD WE, UH, COULD WE JUST BE ASSURED, UH, IN THE, UH, MOTION THAT WE MEET THE STANDARD THAT WE'D LIKE TO SPEAK YOU, YOU TRAILED OFF THERE A LITTLE BIT.

THE, COULD WE BE ASSURED THAT WE MEET THE STANDARD OF WHICH COULD WE BE ASSURED THAT WE MEET, UH, UH, AN ACCEPTABLE, REFLECTIVE, UH, STANDARD, UH, IS, IS MY QUESTION.

I MEAN, WE COULD SAY, UH, 15% IS WHAT WE SAID BEFORE, LIZ.

UM, THAT IS ONE POSSIBILITY.

THERE ARE OTHER POSSIBILITIES, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE WOULD WANT TO, UM, SAY THAT SPECIFICALLY CUZ THERE COULD BE OTHER OPTIONS TO HELP WITH WORD STRIKE.

THEN MAYBE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THE APPLICANT WORKS WITH STAFF TO REVIEW THE PRODUCT THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED TO ENSURE THAT IT IS P REDUCING BIRD STRIKES ON, ON SITE.

YES, YOU GOT THAT.

ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS OR DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION BEFORE US? AND AS AMENDED AS WE'VE KIND OF WORKED THROUGH, RIGHT? HAVING SEEN NONE, LET'S GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF VOTING.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AS AMENDED? UH, RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT, I SEE EVERYBODY HERE AND PAM ON THE SCREEN.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, DID YOU INTEND TO VOTE FOR THE MOTION? CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE AND AND VERBALLY CONFIRM THAT? CUZ I'M, IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME.

YOU'RE YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE MOTION, IS THAT CORRECT? COMMISSIONER SCOTT? YES.

UH, DISCUSSION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS NUMBER FOUR, A BRIEFING FROM THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN RESPONSE TO RESOLUTION 20 21, 129 3,

SO WE'VE GOT ALL FOUR.

LET'S, LET'S KEEP, LET'S KEEP GOING.

HERE'S THE, UM, I JUST PULLED UP THE THING ALL NEXT UP IS,

[4. Briefing on a proposed ordinance in response to Resolution 20211029-003 which directs staff to review City Code, criteria manuals, and permitting procedures to identify impediments to the design, construction, implementation, and operation of Project Connect—Donna Galati, Project Connect Office]

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WHICH DIRECTS STAFF TO REVIEW CITY CODE CRITERIA, MANUAL AND PERMITING PROCEDURES TO IDENTIFY, IMPLEMENT IMPEDIMENTS TO THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, AND IMPLEMENTATION AND OPERATION OF PROJECT CONNECT.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING.

UM, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE A PRESENTATION OR YES, WE DO.

THAT POWERPOINT FOR DONNA, PLEASE.

I'M DONNA GALLATE WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S PROJECT CONNECT OFFICE WITHIN THE MANAGEMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND FIRST LET ME INTRODUCE JENNIFER PINE WITH AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP.

SHE WILL START US OFF WITH A PROJECT CONNECT OVERVIEW.

AND I'M SORRY, UM, TO INTERRUPT MYSELF.

I THINK WE HAVE A SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM AND I'M NOT SURE THAT HE CAN STAY THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

SO, UM, I WANTED TO THAT.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

YOU'VE BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT SO FAR TONIGHT.

SO, UM, BILL HANLEY, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

WOW.

GONNA BUY A LOTTO TICKET.

UM, UH, YEAH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES WHENEVER YOU START, MS. CHAIR.

I WON'T TAKE THAT LONG.

MS. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS BILL MCKINLEY, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TRANSIT FORWARD.

WE ARE AN AUSTIN BASED NONPROFIT WHOSE MISSION IS TO DO EDUCATION AND ENGAGEMENT WORK REGARDING PUBLIC TRANSIT IN GENERAL, BUT WITH A REAL FOCUS ON PROJECT CONNECT.

UH, OUR BOARD HAS APPROVED THE FOLLOWING PIECES OF LANGUAGE FOR THIS PROPOSITION.

COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY.

OUR FELLOW AUSTINITES VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY IN FAVOR OF PROJECT CONNECT IN 2020 BECAUSE OF THE BENEFITS IT WILL BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING REDUCED TRAFFIC CONGESTION, MORE AFFORDABLE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, INCREASED JOB GROWTH, LESS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AND SAFER STREETS, THEREFORE, TRANSIT FORWARD.

SINCERELY APPRECIATES THE CITY'S PROJECT CONNECT OFFICE FOR PROPOSING THESE FOUNDATIONAL MODIFICATIONS.

AND WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THESE CHANGES WOULD PRUDENTLY AND APPROPRIATELY EXPEDITE THE CONSTRUCTION OF LIGHT RAIL AND METRO RAPID BUS LINES, MAKING SURE OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS GET WHAT THEY VOTED FOR SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

AND MR. CHAIR, UH, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AS THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK STATS.

EVERY SINGLE NEW BUS LINE THAT WE GET THAT IS FULL TAKES 50 CARS OFF THE ROAD.

EVERY SINGLE NEW LIGHT RAIL CAR THAT IS FULL, THE DOUBLE ONES THAT WE HAVE ON THE RED LINE, FOR INSTANCE, TAKES 150 CARS OFF THE ROAD IN TERMS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

TRANSPORTATION REPRESENTS 28% OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND A TYPICAL TRIP ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION EMITS 55% FEWER GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAN DRIVING A RIDE SHARE ALONE.

MS. CHAIR, I HEARD THE DISCUSSIONS IN THE LAST, UM, THING THAT YOU WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT HOW HOT IT'S GETTING.

WE RECOGNIZE THIS AS AN ISSUE AND WE THINK THAT EXPEDITING MORE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO ALLOW ICE, TONIGHTS THE OPTION OF DRIVING LESS.

AND I'M A BIKE COMMUTER.

I'M ACTUALLY GONNA BIKE HOME RIGHT NOW, FEED MY DOG, UH, IS A GREAT THING AND WE SUPPORT IT.

SO, MS. CHAIR, I'D BE HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE.

SEEING NONE, THANK YOU.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.

APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE IT FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

THANKS DONNA.

THANKS FOR ALLOWING HIM TO FREE HIMSELF TOO.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT, GO AHEAD.

HI.

IF WE COULD PUT THE SLIDE DECK BACK UP, THAT WOULD BE MY NAME'S JENNIFER PINE, I'M WITH AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP.

UH, THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONERS FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.

UH, I'M JUST GONNA SPEND A COUPLE OF MINUTES WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON PROJECT CONNECT.

UH, SO PROJECT CONNECT IS A, UM, A SYSTEM PLAN FOR MULTIMODAL TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS.

BACK IN NOVEMBER, 2020, A VOTERS APPROVED THE FUNDING, UH, TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN.

UH, AND IF WE CAN ADVANCE THE SLIDE ONCE, MAYBE TWICE.

YEP.

UM, ONE MORE TIME.

FUTURE COMMUTER RAIL AND ANY FACILITIES TO SUPPORT, UH, THOSE RAIL PROJECTS.

THIS IS THE SYSTEM MAP, UM, THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT USING THE FUNDING THAT VOTERS APPROVED.

SO IT IS MULTIMODAL.

UM, IT INCLUDES THE INTRODUCTION OF A NEW LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM INTO AUSTIN THAT'S REPRESENTED ON THIS MAP BY THE ORANGE LINE THAT GOES NORTH AND SOUTH THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

AND THE BLUE LINE THAT GOES FROM DOWNTOWN OUT TO THE AIRPORT ON THIS MAP.

UH, BUT IT ALSO FUNDS, UH, ADDITIONAL METRO, RAPID BUS, RAPID TRANSIT LINES.

UM, IT WOULD FUND SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING COMMUTER RAIL SYSTEM AND FUTURE NEW COMMUTER RAIL.

UH, IT WOULD EXPAND THE, UH, PICKUP SERVICE THAT PROVIDES ON DEMAND SERVICE IN SOME AREAS.

SO IT REALLY IS TRYING TO ADDRESS ALL DIFFERENT MODES, LOOKING TO CREATE, UM, UH, REALLY A SYSTEM THAT WORKS TOGETHER WELL TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND THE CITY MORE EFFICIENTLY.

UM, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO, PROJECT CONNECT IS TO BE IMPLEMENTED, UH, BY A PARTNERSHIP THAT INCLUDES THREE ORGANIZATIONS.

ONE IS AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP, WHICH IS WHERE I WORK, AND ATP WAS CREATED AFTER THE VOTE PASSED.

AND IT EXISTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF, OF IMPLEMENTING THESE PROJECTS.

UH, SPECIFICALLY ATP WILL RESPONSIBLE FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM, UM, AND ALSO

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UH, CAP METRO IS ANOTHER PARTNER.

AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, CAP METRO ALREADY OPERATES THE BUS SYSTEM IN TOWN.

UM, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THE BUS PROJECTS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING RED LINE.

UM, AND THEN THE CITY IS OUR THIRD PARTNER, UM, WHO WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER WITH, UH, US AND CAP METRO ON PERMITTING.

UM, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS DURING DESIGN SINCE, UH, LIKE IN THE CASE OF LIGHT RAIL AND CERTAINLY THE BUS PROJECTS WERE LARGELY OPERATING WITHIN, UH, CITY OWNED RIGHT OF WAY.

SO WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER ON, ON HOW THAT'S GONNA GO.

UM, AND AN INTERESTING PART OF THE VOTE THAT WAS PASSED IS THAT IT INCLUDES FUNDING FOR, UH, ANTIS DISPLACEMENT INITIATIVES, UM, THAT IS LOOKING TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL FOR DISPLACEMENT AS A RESULT OF ANY ACTIVITIES IN THE PROGRAM.

AND SO THOSE FUNDS ARE, ARE MANAGED BY THE CITY.

IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THINK SO, EVEN THOUGH THIS, UH, THE VOTE PASSED REALLY NOT THAT LONG AGO IN NOVEMBER OF 2020, QUITE A BIT HAS HAPPENED ALREADY.

UM, THE PICKUP ZONES, UM, HAVE BEEN EXPANDED THAT ARE, THAT PROVIDE SERVICE TO SOME PARTS OF THE CITY.

UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY, UH, NEW BUS STOPS UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR TWO OF THE METRO RAPID LINES.

UM, WE'VE ALSO STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON MY STATION, WHICH WILL, UH, SEE STADIUM.

UM, THE METRO BIKE PROGRAM HAS JUST VERY RECENTLY BEEN INCORPORATED INTO CAT METRO, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO INTEGRATE HOW BIKE FACILITIES FIT INTO THE OVERALL SYSTEM.

AND EVERYTHING CAN MUTUALLY REINFORCES EACH OTHER.

UM, AND A CAT METRO IS IN THE PROCESS OF REALLY LOOKING AT ELECTRIFICATION OF THE ENTIRE BUS SYSTEM.

UH, CERTAINLY THE METRO RAPID PROJECTS THERE THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THOSE WILL BE ELECTRIC, UH, BUSES.

UH, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO ON THE LIGHT RAIL PROGRAM, WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY EARLY IN THE PROCESS, SO WE'RE STILL IN PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.

SO THESE PHASES THAT ARE UP HERE ON THE SLIDE, THAT'S REALLY FEDERAL TERMINOLOGY.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, WORK WITH THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE THEM FUND, UH, A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE CAPITAL FOR THE LIGHT RAIL PROJECTS, UH, UP TO THE TUNE OF MAYBE 50% OF THE CAPITAL COSTS.

UH, SO IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT WORK, WE HAVE TO STEP THROUGH A FAIRLY COMPLICATED SYSTEM.

UM, AND WE'RE REALLY IN THE VERY EARLIEST PARTS OF IT, REALLY DEFINING THE PROJECT AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND I MEAN, WE GENERALLY KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT, UM, JUST ADVANCING SOME OF THAT PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT.

WE'LL BE DOING MUCH MORE DETAILED ENGINEERING, UM, LOOKING TO SOLIDIFY SOME GRANTS WITH FTA AND, AND ULTIMATELY GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE, THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, LIKE, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE GONE TO PUBLIC MEETINGS OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO.

UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S, WE'VE STARTED DESIGNING IT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS THAT THE COSTS, UH, CERTAINLY THE TRENDS FOR CONSTRUCTION, REALLY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

TRANSIT PROJECTS ARE REALLY ANY OTHER KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE ARE ONLY GOING UP RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, WE SEE IN AUSTIN RIGHT OF WAY COSTS, UM, REAL ESTATE IS GOING UP, WHICH IS PROBABLY ISN'T VERY SURPRISING, UH, BUT IN GENERAL, INFLATION, UH, LABOR AND OTHER SUPPLY ISSUES WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE'RE OBSERVING AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED COSTS.

UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TAKING SOME TIME TO LOOK AT RIGHT NOW.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY IMPLEMENT.

UM, AND SO WE'RE STILL IN THAT PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PHASE, UH, REALLY LOOKING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALIGNED AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE DEFINING THE LIGHT RAIL PROJECTS AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN AFFORD AND REALLY SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENT.

SO YOU'LL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT TOO SOON, BUT PROBABLY IN THE NEW YEAR.

UM, UH, MORE INFORMATION ON THE LIGHT RAIL PROJECTS.

IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHEN WE MIGHT BE VISITING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, OVER TIME, SUCH AS TO FULFILL REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE LIKE WE DO TODAY, OR IF THERE ARE VARIANCES ASSOCIATED WITH A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION OR, UH, SUBJECT TO SPECIFIC BRIEFINGS LIKE TAKING NEPA TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND TO ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE PROGRAM UPDATES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

WE BRING FORWARD A FOUNDATIONAL ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES THINGS WE KNOW ABOUT NOW AND SETS A FRAMEWORK BY WHICH WE CAN ADD COMPONENTS AS SCOPE AND DESIGN PROGRESSES.

SO I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE FOUNDATIONAL ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE, UM, SHOWING COMMISSIONS.

THIS IS A, THE LARGEST RETROFITTING OF RIGHT OF WAY THE CITY HAS EVER UNDERTAKEN.

WE KNOW THAT THE CITY'S CODE AND CRITERIA, WHICH FOCUS DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ON VERTICAL SITE SPECIFIC PROJECTS WERE NOT WRITTEN TO ACCOMMODATE A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE.

TODAY,

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THIS IS A ONCE IN A GENERATION PROGRAM THAT BENEFITS A NUMBER OF COUNCIL ADOPTED POLICIES AND PLANS SUCH AS ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, INCLUDING CLIMATE EQUITY GOALS, SUPPORTS OUR AS S AND P MODE, SHIFT GOALS, HEALTH AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, TRANSFORM, UH, TRANSFORMING THE TRANSIT NETWORK AND CONNECTING COMMUNITIES.

THE ENNO CENTER FOR TRANSPORTATION IS A THINK TANK THAT DID A REPORT ON WHY NORTH AMERICAN TRANSIT PROJECTS TAKE LONGER AND COST MORE THAN THOSE IN OTHER COUNTRIES.

THE 2021 ENNO REPORT SITES SEVERAL CASE STUDIES DEMONSTRATING THAT AUSTIN IS NOT ALONE IN HAVING A CODE RELATED OBSTACLE.

THE REPORT IDENTIFIED LOCAL REGULATION, PERMITTING, AND DECISION MAKING PROCEDURES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES IS AN OBSTACLE TO ACHIEVING VIABLE COST EFFECTIVE TRANSIT SYSTEMS ON PAR WITH THOSE OF PEER PEER NATIONS.

IN OCTOBER OF 2021, COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION DIRECTING STAFF TO SCAN THE CODE CRITERIA AND PROCESSES LOOKING FOR OBSTACLES TO EFFICIENT IMPLEMENTATION AND PERMITTING OF PROJECT CONNECT THE RESOLUTION SITES, THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN, THE VOTER REFERENDUM FOR PROJECT CONNECT, THE ENNO REPORT, AND THE KNOWN DIFFICULTIES OF AUSTIN'S CODES AND ORDINANCES.

AND IMPLEMENTING A LINEAR PROJECT.

COUNCIL PASSED AN ORDINANCE FOR PUBLIC MOBILITY PROJECTS IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, AND PROJECT CONNECT WILL BENEFIT FROM THAT ORDINANCE.

THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES FURTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE OBSTACLES WE KNOW TODAY.

PROJECT CONNECT OFFICE STAFF HAVE SCANNED CODE AND CRITERIA, AND GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW TODAY, WE HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDES A FOUNDATION FOR PROJECT CONNECT REGULATIONS AND PROCESSES THAT WILL BENEFIT THE PROGRAM AS IT PROCEEDS.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ENVIRONMENTAL TRANSIT AND HEALTH AND SAFETY BENEFITS OF LIGHT RAIL IN A WAY THAT IS INCLUSIVE AND RESPECTFUL OF THE COLLECTIVE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR DEPARTMENT'S RESOURCES AND ENSURE WE DON'T GET IN OUR OWN WAY AS WE IMPLEMENT PROJECT CONNECT.

THE FOUNDA, THIS FOUNDATIONAL ORDINANCE HAS FIVE MAIN COMPONENTS, STRUCTURE, NOISE AND MITIGATION PLAN, ADJUSTMENTS TO SITE PLAN USES AND FISCAL EXEMPTION, AND I SHOULD SAY CONSTRUCTION NOISE AND MITIGATION PLAN REQUIREMENTS.

THIS ORDINANCE IS A STANDALONE REGULATORY IN BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE REVIEWER CAN GO TO ONE PLACE FOR ANY REGULATIONS, UM, OR STANDARDS FOR TRANSIT SYSTEM PROJECTS.

THIS ORDINANCE DEFINES TRANSIT SYSTEM PROJECT AS A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, GENERALLY DEPICTED ON EXHIBIT A.

THAT'S THE PROJECT CONNECT SYSTEM MAP WITH ANY RELATED APARTMENTS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO A RAIL IN PUBLIC TRANSIT LINE, RAIL STATION, OR A TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL FUNDED BY A PUBLIC ENTITY.

WE KNOW THAT AS PART OF THE NEPA PROCESS, AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP HAS TO IDENTIFY MITIGATIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION NOISE AND THAT THOSE MITIGATIONS ARE BINDING.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE FTA RECOMMENDED BEST PRACTICES, WE REALIZED THAT MANY OF THOSE STANDARDS START WHERE THE CITY'S ESCALATION OF NOISE COMPLAINTS ARE, SUCH AS REGULAR MONITORING OF CONSTRUCTION NOISE LEVELS.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE THE CITY REQUIRES MONITORING.

AFTER A NUMBER OF VALID COMPLAINTS, WE WILL REQUIRE MONITORING AS A STANDARD.

THEREFORE, WITH THIS ORDINANCE, WE'RE REQUIRING THAT THE MITIGATION PLAN INCLUDE THE FTAS RECOMMENDED BEST PRACTICES.

THE NOISE MITIGATION PLAN AS DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT B CONSISTS OF THREE MAIN COMPONENTS.

THE FIRST IS THE NOISE MITIGATION AND MONITORING PLAN THAT IS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE NEPA ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS AND SUBMITTED TO FDA.

THE SECOND ATP AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP WILL SUBMIT THEIR PLAN REQUIREMENTS FOR CONTRACTORS SPECIFIC NOISE PLANS THAT ADDRESS MITIGATION FOR THEIR SPECIFIC CONSTRUCTION.

AND IT WILL INCLUDE A COMMUNICATION PLAN WITH PROCEDURES FOR NOTIFICATION AND MONITORING.

SO, UM, VIEWABLE ONLINE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

THAN REVISIONS TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLANS.

TO ACCOMMODATE A VARIETY OF POTENTIAL PERMITTING PACKAGES, THE ORDINANCE WILL INCLUDE MINOR CHANGES TO THE EXISTING FAST TRACK AND PHASED ENGINEERING PORTIONS OF CODE.

BY REMOVING TWO CONSTRAINTS, IT WILL ALLOW A LINEAR STRETCH OF RAIL TO BE IN THE FAST TRACK PROCESS.

EVEN IF NO OCCUPIED BUILDING IS IN THAT PARTICULAR SITE PLAN APPLICATION PACKAGE, IT WILL ALLOW VARIANCES TO BE PROCESSED AT THE PHASE LEVEL AND BUT STILL WITHIN THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, AND ENCOURAGE AND ENSURE THAT PHASES CAN BE SUBMITTED AS UPDATES TO APPLICATIONS RATHER

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AND IT ALSO EXTENDS THE LIFE OF SITE PLANS TO 10 YEARS.

THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DEFINES USES WITHIN USE CATEGORIES ALONG WITH EXAMPLES.

BECAUSE THIS IS OUR FIRST LIGHT RAIL PROJECT, THERE IS EQUIPMENT THE CITY HAS NOT PREVIOUSLY SEEN, AND WITH THIS ORDINANCE, WE ARE DEFINING THE USE.

SO THERE WILL BE PREDICTABILITY ON BOTH THE APPLICANT AND REVIEWER SIDE OVER TIME.

THE FIRST IS, UM, THE TRACTION POWERED SUBSTATION.

IT'S AS A LOCAL UTILITY SERVICE, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS THE WORD SUBSTATION IN IT.

THEY'RE NOT GIANT OPEN SUBSTATIONS, WHICH ARE CLASSIFIED AS MAJOR UTILITY USE THESE, UH, A TPSS OR TRACTION POWERED SUBSTATION IS A MUCH SMALLER, UM, THING, AND IT IS ENCLOSED AND IT FITS THE DEFINITION OF LOCAL UTILITY SERVICE.

AND NOW NEXT SLIDE.

AND CLICK ONE MORE TIME PLEASE.

UH, THIS ORDINANCE WILL ALSO STATE THAT A MAINTENANCE FACILITY FOR LIGHT RAIL FALLS WITHIN THE CIVIC USE MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE FACILITY AS OPPOSED TO RAILROAD FACILITY USE, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE INDUSTRIAL USE, ALLOWED IN ONLY AN INDUSTRIAL ZONES INTENDED FOR ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH FREIGHT YARDS.

THE EXIST THERE IS AN EXISTING MAINTENANCE FACILITY FOR THE RED LINE TODAY, AND IT WAS PERMITTED IN 2003 AS A MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE FACILITY.

SO THIS ISN'T NEW, BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH THE ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH THIS USE TO MAKE REVIEW AND IMPLEMENTATION EASIER FOR THE APPLICANT AND REVIEWER SO THAT DOWN THE LINE, WHEN A MAINTENANCE FACILITY IS IN FOR REVIEW, THE REVIEWER DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH THAT IN 2003 IT WAS PERMITTED AS A MAINTENANCE FACILITY.

THE QUARTER PROGRAM OFFICE ORDINANCE APPROVED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR EXEMPTED PUBLIC MOBILITY PROJECTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM POSTING FISCAL.

THIS ORDINANCE ORDINANCE EXPANDS THAT FISCAL EXEMPTION TO TRANSIT SYSTEM PROJECTS OUTSIDE OF THE RIDE OF WAY FOR THINGS SUCH AS PARK AND RIDES, SO THAT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, ELEMENTS OF PROJECT CONNECT SUCH AS A PARK AND RIDE OR THE TRACTION POWERED SUBSTATION, UM, THAT WE JUST, THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU, UM, AND EX AND PULLS THAT FISCAL EXEMPTION TO THOSE ITEMS. AND NEXT SLIDE.

THE NEXT STEPS INCLUDE COMMISSIONS THROUGH OCTOBER WITH THE INTENT OF GOING TO COUNCIL IN DECEMBER FOR APPROVAL.

AND WE ARE COORDINATING WITH AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP TO SEE IF WE CAN GO TO THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP BOARD AND THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEES IN NOVEMBER.

BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING FOR, UH, THE, UH, FOR CITIZENS WHO, WHO DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO WITH NOISE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT ENFORCED.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, DO WE HAVE, UH, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA START REMOTE AGAIN, BUT, UH, SO IF, IF YOU'RE READY, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UM, ABOUT THE PRESENTATION OR THE, UH, THE, THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE THAT THAT WAS PROVIDED AS A BACKUP? UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE SUBSTATIONS.

HAVE THEY BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THE DIFFERENT LINES AND WAS SHE SAYING, UM, I KIND OF MISSED THAT IN THE PRESENTATION? WAS SHE SAYING THAT THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN AUTHORIZED? I THINK IT WAS LIKE TWO SLIDES BEFORE THE END.

YES, IT, NO, THEY'RE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED.

TRACTION POWERED SUBSTATIONS ARE NEW TO AUSTIN BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD LIGHT RAIL, ELECTRIC AND AN ELECTRIC SYSTEM.

UM, BUT WE HAVE TALKED WITH THE ZONING OFFICER AND ZONING STAFF IN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO ESTABLISH THE, THE USE AND, AND WHAT THE ZONING OFFICER, UH, DETERMINED TO BE THE, THE ZONING USE FOR A TPSS.

UM, THE LOCATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN DECIDED.

I, UM, MOST OF THIS WAS NEW TO ME BECAUSE IT JUST HADN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP IN OUR TIME, UH, THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, CUZ I, I KNOW NOW SO MUCH MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DID.

UM, UH, I'M, I'M REALLY PLEASED BY THE, UH, BY, BY THE, UH, THE INCLUSION OF THE NOISE MITIGATION PLAN BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, UM, WITH SO MANY NOISE PROBLEMS IN THE CITY, IT'S

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AND, AND THAT'S, SO THAT'S A REALLY, UH, THAT'S REALLY WELCOME.

UM, AND ALSO OF COURSE, I THINK EVERYBODY, UH, IS EXCITED ABOUT AN ALL ELECTRIC ZERO ADMISSION, UH, PROGRAM BY, UH, BY THE SUMMER OF 20, UH, 23.

UH, JUST GREAT, UH, GREAT STUFF.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

WE'RE GONNA GO AROUND THE HORN BACKWARDS, BRO.

OR HAVE YOU GOT ANYTHING? YES, I'VE, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I'M, UH, VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UH, PROJECT CONNECT, UH, PLAN.

I DO HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS.

I'M GONNA START WITH THE, UH, NOISE MITIGATION PLAN.

UH, SOMETIME AGO, MAYBE A YEAR AGO, WE HAD SOMEONE MAKING A PRESENTATION THAT TOUCHED UPON, UH, YOU KNOW, NOISE, THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE THEY SAID THEY HAD, WERE CONCENTRATING, UH, PRIMARILY ON THE DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, THE STAFF THEY HAD WAS SMALL AND IT WAS FOCUSED SOLELY ON THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND SO IF YOU LIVED IN A DIFFERENT PART OF TOWN AND YOU HAD A NOISE COMPLAINT DURING THE DAYTIME, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS REALLY NO SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.

THERE'S NO ONE WHO CALLED THERE, NO ONE PICKED UP THE PHONE.

I MEAN, YOU'LL HAVE TO VOICEMAIL.

SO MY QUESTION IS SORT OF LIKE THIS, ARE ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS GONNA BE HIRED WITHIN THIS ORGANIZATION TO TAKE THE CALLS AND ACTIVELY RESPOND WITHIN WHAT I WOULD CALL A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, SAY, I DON'T KNOW, TWO HOURS TO ADDRESS WHATEVER THE NOISE COMPLAINT IS? BECAUSE OTHERWISE THIS IS NOT REALLY TERRIBLY EFFECTIVE.

SO THE EXHIBIT B IS THE CRITERIA FOR THE NOISE MITIGATION PLAN AND AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP HAS TO HAVE A MITIGATION PLAN FOR CONSTRUCTION NOISE.

I DO WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT IT'S JUST CONSTRUCTION NOISE.

FOR ANY STATION LIVE MUSIC EVENTS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW REGULAR, UM, C CODE.

YOU UNDERSTAND DISTINCTION.

THE, UM, THE MITIGATION PLAN THAT THEY PROVIDE WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS SUCH AS, UM, HOW, LIKE A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL, HOW, UM, COMPLAINTS WILL BE ADDRESSED.

AND SO THE MITIGATION PLAN, THE EXHIBIT B DOESN'T SAY IT, IT HAS TO, AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP WILL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION WITH THEIR MITIGATION PLAN.

SO IT WILL HAVE, UM, IT WILL INCLUDE, UM, COMMUNICATION PLAN, HOW IT'S GONNA BE MONITORED, HOW COMPLAINTS WILL BE PROCESSED, UM, HOW ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WILL BE VIEWABLE, UM, ONLINE AND WHAT THE ESCALATION POLICY IS.

UH, YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT EXHIBIT B NOW.

UH, SO THERE IS NO PLAN RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP DOES ALONG WITH THE OH, DO YOU WANNA SURE.

IF YOU LIKE I SPEAK, YES.

THANKS.

SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, SO THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN ANTICIPATE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE NEPA PROCESS THAT, THAT DONNA MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OUTCOMES OF THAT IS A COMMITMENT TO CERTAIN MITIGATIONS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS.

AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE NOISE.

BUT AMONG OTHER THINGS, UM, I WOULD FORESEE, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD, UH, WHEN WE ARE NEARING CONSTRUCTION AND ESTABLISHING CONTRACTS, UH, WITH, WITH CONTRACTORS TO, TO DO IT, UM, USUALLY THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS IN THERE, UM, AND WE'RE A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR AWAY TO SPEAK SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE.

BUT I, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE MAKING COMMITMENTS AS PART OF THE FEDERAL PROCESS, UH, AND PUTTING THEM IN, IN CONTRACTS TO BE ENFORCED.

WELL, OKAY, THIS GETS DOWN TO THE POINT IS WHEN YOU SAY WE, YOU MEAN YOU, NOT WE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE AREAS OF, UH, RESPONSIBILITY ENVIRONMENTAL TIME MISSION HAS IS NOISE.

A GOOD IDEA, OR WE RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING CHANGES IN ORDER TO IMPROVE IT.

AND WHAT I SEE IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION BEING CUT OUT OF THE PROCESS HERE.

IS THAT WHAT I, AM I CORRECTLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, I, LET ME JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT, DONNA, BECAUSE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU TALK ABOUT NOISE AND YOU TALK ABOUT MITIGATION PLANS, THEN A MITIGATION PLAN SHOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL, OR AT LEAST OUR INPUT TO SAY, YES, THIS SOUNDS LIKE

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UH, THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT I DON'T HEAR THAT IN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, THERE IS A PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT PERIOD AS PART OF THE NEPA PROCESS THAT DEVELOPS THE MITIGATION COMMITMENTS.

THAT'S ONE THING.

YEAH, BUT I DIDN'T, I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY, BUT YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION WHEN YOU SAY PUBLIC, THAT DOESN'T, YOU'RE NOT SAYING THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION IS PART OF THE PROCESS.

THE SOUND AND NOISE IS PART OF OUR MANDATE IS TO REVIEW THAT AS PART OF WHAT WE DO TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.

IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE US AS PART OF THE REVIEW, THEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CUTTING OUT PART OF THE PUBLIC BY THAT PROCESS.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU'RE DOING THAT, THEN YOU JUST NEED TO SAY SO.

SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE.

WELL, AS, UM, AS JENNIFER SAID, THE MITIGATION IS PART OF THE NEPA DEVELOPMENT.

AND ON SLIDE NINE WE MENTIONED, UM, WHEN WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND BRIEFINGS LIKE NPA AND PART.

SO WHEN THE NPA DOCUMENTS ARE PREPARED, WHEN THE PUBLIC, UM, INPUT TIME IS HA IS HAPPENING, WE DO PLAN TO COME BACK TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AT THAT TIME AND WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, NO, THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

WE WILL BE PRESENTING THE NEPA DOCUMENTS FOR INPUT.

SO WE WILL BE PRESENTING THEM, BUT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.

IT'S AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC FEEDBACK.

YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND WE WOULD NEED TO RESPOND TO THAT FEEDBACK, WHETHER IT BE IN INCORPORATE, I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEEDBACK IS AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? WELL, I DON'T KNOW EITHER.

I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION IS NOT CUT OUT OF THE LOOP BECAUSE ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IN THIS, UH, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT FAST TRACKING AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL OF THINGS.

AND WHEN I HEAR THE TERM FAST TRACK AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, UH, I GET CONCERNED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SHORTCUTS TAKEN THAT'S GOING TO CUT OUT, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS LIKE OURS OUT OF THE PROCESS.

AND YOU REFERENCED EARLIER THAT IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN NO, YOU KNOW, ATTEMPT TO BUILD A LINEAR TRANSIT SYSTEM.

SO WE'RE DOING THIS FROM SCRATCH.

SO WE HAVE NO BLUEPRINT TO SEE IF IT WORKS TO HAVE A COMPLETELY ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, APPROVED WHOLESALE CHANGES TO THE TRANSIT, YOU KNOW, LAYOUT OF THE CITY FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF RUNOFF NOISE.

YOU PICK THE ISSUE THAT COULD COME UP AND IT'S ALL BEING HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY WITHOUT ANY EXTERNAL REVIEW OR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND THAT TO ME BECOMES A MATTER OF CONCERN WHEN, YOU KNOW, THIS COMES UP.

SO WE DO NOT, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO HA TO WHAT DOES OR DOES NOT GO TO COMMISSIONS WITH OUR ORDINANCE.

UM, THE FAST TRACK PROCESS IS, UM, AN EXISTING PROCESS THAT IT'S, THERE ISN'T, FAST TRACK IS A BIT OF A MISNOMER.

IT'S APPRO, IT'S A SITE PLAN THAT IS REVIEWED WHERE ONE LAYER GOES THROUGH REVIEW.

SO MAYBE AN EXAMPLE COULD BE THAT A UTILITY RELOCATION LAYER GOES THROUGH REVIEW AND THAT APPROVAL HAPPENS WHILE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE REVIEW, LIKE THE TRACK IS STILL UNDER REVIEW.

AND THEN THAT LAYER GETS APPROVED.

SO WE WILL, UM, WE SET ON SLIDE NINE THAT WE WILL VISIT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO FULFILL ANY REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.

SO IF WE HAVE ANY, UM, ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS IN THE FUTURE OR IF THERE ARE ANY VARIANCES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, WE WILL RETURN TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR, UH, SUBJECT SPECIFIC BRIEFINGS, PARTICULARLY NPA AND THE NPA DOCUMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE THE MITIGATION PLAN AND, UM, AND WILL ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE PROGRAM UPDATES LIKE WE DID TODAY, THE FIRST HALF OF OUR PRESENTATION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

CONFLICT, THIS ORDINANCE CONTROLS.

I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT COMMISSIONER AND PRIMER'S BRINGING UP.

I'M LOOKING AT PART TWO OF THE PROPOSED, UM, UM, ORDINANCE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE THIRD SENTENCE THAT TALKS ABOUT, I BELIEVE IT'S THE 30TH.

IF THIS ORDINANCE AND THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT EXHIBITS

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SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS WILL BE THE FINAL DECISION.

IT'S WHATEVER THE ORDINANCE SAYS IS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT COMMISSIONER PRIMER HAS.

SO RIGHT, THIS ORDINANCE WHERE IT HAS REGULATION WILL CONTROL TODAY THERE'S FIVE COMPONENTS.

THERE'S THE DEFINITION OF TRANSIT SYSTEM PROJECT, THERE'S THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE NOISE CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION, NOISE MITIGATION.

THERE ARE THE ZONING USES THAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN ONE OF 'EM IS, IS NOT NEW.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR FOR STA FOR REVIEWERS AND APPLICANTS AND THE SMALL CHANGES TO SITE PLAN PROCESS AND THE, THE, UM, AND THE FISCAL PORTION MM-HMM.

SO I JUST REALLY HAVE CONCERN.

I I REALLY DO FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR US TO ACT ON.

UM, I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY BRIEFINGS, THE WAY I INTERPRET THAT IS THE COMMUNITY'S BEING TOLD WHAT'S BEING DONE TO THEM.

WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE OP OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE WHAT WE WANT DONE FOR US.

SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN WHAT'S BEING DONE TO US VERSUS WHAT'S BEING DONE FOR US.

AND THE BEST WAY TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMUNITY IS TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN UNDERSTAND AND ALSO PROVIDE SOME INPUT AS TO WHAT CAN REALLY BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, FOR ME, IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE TO HAVE CONTROL AND THEN MAKE THAT DECISION AND HAVE THAT IMPOSED ON PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE HAVING THE COMMUNITY HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME ACTUAL FEEDBACK.

WE, AND WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO CODE IN TERMS OF WHAT DOES OR DOES NOT GO TO ANY COMMISSIONS OR HEARINGS.

DEVELOPMENT IS FINISHED AND THEN RETURNS, IT RETURNS THE MONEY AND THE MONEY IS HELD IN CASE THE DEVELOPER, UM, ABANDONS THE SITE.

I STILL AM UNDERSTANDING, I HEARD YOU SAY BRIEFINGS AND WHEN, WHEN IT'S A BRIEFING, THAT IS, THAT IS YOU TELLING US WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE TO US AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A DISCUSSION IN THE VOTE AND THE INPUT.

SO AT THAT POINT WE DON'T SEE, I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN ON THE, UH, WHEN WE COME BACK WITH NPA, THE NPA DOCUMENTS AS JENNIFER DESCRIBES ARE UM, SUBJECT TO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S PUBLIC INPUT, THERE'S A TIME FOR PUBLIC INPUT.

WELL, OKAY, SO, AND SO I MISSPOKE, I THINK WHEN I JUST SAID BRIEFING ONLY BECAUSE IT IS SUBJECT TO ONE THING THAT ABOUT THE NEPA PROCESS IS THAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF GOING OUT DURING THAT DRAFT PERIOD IS NOT ONLY THAT PEOPLE, UM, CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT ANALYSES, WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY SAY, UM, AND WHAT THE MITIGATION COMMITMENTS MIGHT BE AS A RESPONSE.

BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE, I MEAN, FOR MEANINGFUL INPUT AT THAT TIME.

AND AS PART OF THE NEPA PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS THAT ARE RECEIVED.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I APPRECIATE, AND I REALLY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I WISH I HAD HAD A COPY OF THAT PRESENTATION BEFORE TONIGHT CUZ THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'M ACTUALLY SEEING IT.

I WAS TRYING TO, LOOKING OUR BACKUP TO SEE IF MAYBE IT WAS POSTED RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

I'LL NEED A CHECK.

UM, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THE OTHER PERSPECTIVE FROM MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN, UM, NPA AND WHAT HAPPENED AT THE AIRPORT AT A B I IN REGARDS TO THE FUEL TANKS.

YES, THERE WERE CLAIMS THAT THERE WAS COMMUNITY INPUT THAT WE WERE GIVEN THE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK THAT WAS STILL DONE TO US.

AND SO THERE'S EASTERN EAST AUSTIN, AGAIN THAT IS UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR, IN THE RESIDENTS PERSPECTIVE, UM, IS BEING COMPROMISED.

SO I I KNOW YOU SAVED N I KNOW THERE'S WHAT WE'VE HAD, AT LEAST I HAVE HAD ONE NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT PROCESS AND I DON'T, I WOULD NOT WANT TO AGREE TO THAT TYPE OF PROCESS BEING DONE HERE.

AND, UM, AND IF YOU CAN ALSO TELL ME MORE, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE FISCAL PIECE, UM, IS MODIFIED THAT TRANSIT SYSTEM IS NOT REQUIRED TO POST FISCAL.

WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? SO IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS PASSED IN THE QUARTER PROGRAM OFFICE, UM, ORDINANCE FROM MAY OF THIS YEAR, UH, WHERE FIS, THERE WAS AN EXEMPTION.

SO FISCAL IS A PAYMENT THAT A DEVELOPER MAKES AND THE CITY HOLDS THE MONEY UNTIL AFTER THE

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AND THE CITY NEEDS TO CLEAN IT UP FOR, UM, DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT PROJECT.

IT'S, IT'S MOVING MONEY FROM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE PUBLIC, UH, PROJECT WORLD.

IT'S MOVING MONEY FROM ONE POCKET TO ANOTHER TO THEN MOVE IT BACK TO THE OTHER POCKET.

UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT, WE'RE WE'RE PARTNERS.

THE CITY OF BOSTON IS A PARTNER IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF PROJECT CONNECT.

UM, AND WE DON'T, AND WE KNOW THAT, UM, WE WOULDN'T NEED TO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE, RIGHT? SO IT'S LIKE, UM, WE DON'T TAKE, WE TYPICALLY HA DON'T REQUIRE FISCAL PAYMENT BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE IT'S JUST MOVING MONEY FROM ONE POCKET TO ANOTHER AND THEN BACK AT THE END OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THIS IS JUST CLARIFYING THAT WITHIN THE, THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF PROJECT CONNECT, BUT IT WAS STILL ALLOW FOR TRANSPARENCY SO THAT JOHN KUB WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS, IS AWARE OF WHAT'S WHAT, WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING.

WELL, THERE WOULDN'T, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO MOVE MONEY WITH THIS ORDINANCE.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT EFFORT, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE TRANSPARENT WHEN JOHN KIPPA WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE THE, WHERE OUR DAUGHTERS ARE GOING.

SHE, HI COMMISSIONER MELINDA SHERA, I, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

WE DEFINITELY WANT PROJECT CONNECT TO MOVE ALONG AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

I JUST WANNA ASK, CUZ TONIGHT IS THE FIRST NIGHT, UH, FIRST TIME THAT I'M SEEING ON THE SYSTEM MAP THAT THE LANGUAGE HAS BEEN CHANGED TO NO, NO LONGER SAY PHASE TWO, BUT POTENTIAL FUTURE LINES.

AND UNFORTUNATELY I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT.

AND I'M CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION AT THIS TIME, UM, TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHEN THAT WAS CHANGED AND, UM, YEAH, IT, WHAT WHAT, AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR, BUT I WOULD LIKE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE ON THAT.

I'M SORRY, CAN I JUST GET CLARIFICATION ON WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM MAP, IF WE CAN PULL THE SYSTEM MAP BACK UP IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

I THINK IT WAS SLIDE THREE.

UM, IT WAS A, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.

THAT'S JUST THIS, BUT, UM, THE DOTTED LINES, SO IT'S NOT THE SAME, SAME MAP, BUT IT'S EXHIBIT, EXHIBIT A OF THE, BUT IN, ACTUALLY MY VISION IS NOT SUPER GREAT, BUT I THINK IT ACTUALLY DOES SAY THE SAME THING IN THE LEGEND, UM, POTENTIAL FUTURE.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M REFERRING TO THE LEGEND SAYING POTENTIAL AND NO LONGER SAYING PHASE TWO.

SO, AND YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THE LIGHT RAIL EXTENSIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON EXAMPLE ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE ORANGE LINE WHERE YES.

AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO I GUESS, TO BE HONEST, I'M NOT SURE OF ANY TERMINOLOGY CHANGE.

I THINK, UM, FOR AS, AS LONG, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN AWARE, UM, AND DONNA YOU CAN CORRECT ME, BUT IT'S BEEN ASSUMED THAT THE LIGHT RAIL, UM, PROJECTS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN PHASES.

UM, AND SO THAT HASN'T CHANGED.

UM, AND SO I THINK IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, IS IT THAT CALLING IT A FUTURE INSTEAD OF PHASE TWO MAKES IT SOUND MORE, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD, UH, TO CLARIFY POTENTIAL.

POTENTIAL, RIGHT? YES.

THAT, THAT KIND OF TAKES AWAY FROM PHASE TWO.

NO, NO, I, I UNDERSTAND.

I, I GUESS I CAN'T SPEAK TO TERMINOLOGY ON MAP TO MAP TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, WHICH IS THAT I THINK THE INTENTION IS TO BUILD OUT THE SYSTEM, UM, WE'RE, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT IN A PHASED MANNER, UM, FOR CASHFLOW REASONS, BUT HONESTLY ALSO JUST FOR, UM, IMPLEMENTATION REASONS.

UM, SO, BUT THE INTENTION IS TO BUILD OUT THE SYSTEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU GOT ANYTHING? YES.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING DISPLACED.

UM, I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE FUNDING FOR ANTIS DISPLACEMENT WOULD BE, UM, UH, USED TO KIND OF HELP WITH, UM, WITH

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AND I WAS CURIOUS IF THERE WAS AN ESTIMATE OF, OF HOW MANY FAMILIES OR HOW MANY BUSINESSES THAT THAT DISPLACEMENT FUND WOULD COVER, AND ALSO HOW MANY FAMILIES OR HOW MANY BUSINESSES THE, UM, PROJECT CONNECT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO AFFECT OR DISPLACE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WAS 300 MILLION THAT THE COUNCIL VOTED ON TO BE DIRECTED TO ANTI DISPLACEMENT.

AND THAT EFFORT IS BEING THE, THE DEPARTMENT IS THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND THEY ARE NOT HERE THIS EVENING.

BUT I DID RECENTLY READ AN ARTICLE THAT, UM, ABOUT, I DID, I DID RECENTLY READ AN ARTICLE ABOUT SEVERAL, UM, NON-PROFITS THAT WERE GOING TO BE, UM, GRANTED THAT MONEY.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO, UM, WHICH ONES THEY WERE, BUT YOU KNOW, I DO KNOW THAT IT'S AN ONGOING EFFORT.

UM, ALSO, I WAS CURIOUS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD KNOW THIS, BUT LIKE IF THEY HAVE ALREADY KIND OF STARTED CONTACTING THOSE PEOPLE AND THE BUSINESSES THAT THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT DIRECTLY, LIKE AT, THEY ALREADY KIND OF STARTED THAT PROCESS OF LIKE, HEY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE.

UH, YES, THERE HAVE BEEN CONTACTS MADE FOR THE DESIGN THAT'S BEEN DONE TO DATE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, IT'S NOT FINAL DESIGN.

THINGS CAN ALWAYS CHANGE, RIGHT? BUT YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THE TYPE OF PROPERTY IMPACTS THERE MIGHT BE.

AND SO, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN CONTACTS WITH PROPERTY OWNERS THAT, THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED BY THAT.

UM, WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT THE DESIGN AND SO THOSE THINGS COULD CHANGE, UM, LIKE IMPACTS COULD CHANGE BE MINIMIZED.

UM, BUT THERE HAS BEEN OUTREACH SO FAR.

COULD YOU TELL ME IF IT'S, UM, LIKE LETTERS THAT ARE BEING SENT OR IS IT LIKE THEY'RE CALLING PEOPLE OR ARE THEY PHYSICALLY SHOWING UP TO THOSE LOCATIONS? I THINK ALL OF THE ABOVE HAVE OCCURRED.

MAYBE NOT EVERY METHOD WITH EVERY PERSON, BUT THAT'S LIKE THE RANGE OF OF CONTEXT.

UH, YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS I'D HAVE.

UM, HEY, HEY Y'ALL.

UM, JUST WANTED TO THANK Y'ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, YEAH, I GUESS I HAD SOME QUESTIONS, UM, SORT OF FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN AND THEN ALSO FROM, UH, SORT OF A NOISE LEVEL CONCERN.

UM, OBVIOUSLY I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT WITH PROJECT CONNECT, RIGHT? YOU'LL HAVE SORT OF, WELL, REALLY THREE, RIGHT? CAUSE FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE GOT LIKE THE UNDERWATER TUNNEL.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, DOING THAT FOR CHEAP, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALSO GOT SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, URBAN DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN SOUTH CONGRESS OR, YOU KNOW, ON RIVERSIDE.

UH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SORT OF LIKE RURAL DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? LIKE SORT OF NORTH ORANGE LINE, YOU KNOW, EAST GREEN LINE.

UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESSES FOR ALL THOSE, RIGHT? I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY, UM, SOME QUESTIONS THERE, RIGHT? I THINK SOME OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC INPUT.

I THINK CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, A FINE LINE BETWEEN FAST TRACKING EVERYTHING OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE TERM IS.

UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES DONE WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT, RIGHT? VERSUS HAVING THE PROCESS TAKE TOO LONG AND THEN BECAUSE OF INFLATION IN REAL ESTATE, Y YADA COST WILL GO UP.

FRANKLY, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS WHOLE THING A DECADE OR TWO AGO, BUT HEY, I'M NOT IN CHARGE OF THAT.

UM, YEAH, SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS LIKE, FIRST, LIKE, OKAY, SO FOR LIKE NOISE PROCESSING, RIGHT? WE'LL HAVE, UH, LIKE NOISES SENT OUT TO PEOPLE.

UH, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER GIRA IS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, PUSHING FOR THIS, RIGHT? ARE THOSE EFFORTS GONNA BE DONE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH, RIGHT? PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NORTH LAMAR RUN BERG AREA OR, YOU KNOW, EAST RIVERSIDE OR, YOU KNOW, UH, SEVENTH AND PLEASANT VALLEY.

UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AS A PERSON THAT LIVES ON THE EAST SIDE, I THINK THOSE WOULD BE VERY PERTINENT FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, BILINGUAL COMMUNICATIONS TO PEOPLE.

I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AS FAR AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THESE DIFFERENT, NOT NECESSARILY WAREHOUSE INDUSTRIAL TYPE, BUT UH, LIKE TRANSIT SUBSTATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, RIGHT? I THINK THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHERE ARE THOSE GOING TO BE? WHAT WILL THE STORE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS FOR THAT BE? LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY THERE'S A SMALL FOOTPRINT, BUT IF THERE'S NOT, RIGHT? WHAT STORE A PROCESS, UH, WOULD PEOPLE HAVE AS FAR AS LIKE, UH, KNOWING ABOUT IT AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT?

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UH, OFF THE TOP OF MY MIND, YES, WE AGREE THAT, UH, BILINGUAL NOTIFICATION IS IMPORTANT.

UM, AND IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE HAVE NOT PROPOSED ANY CHANGES TO HOW VARIANCES ARE PROCESSED.

UM, THINGS THAT NEED HEARINGS WILL, YOU KNOW, STILL NEED HEARINGS.

THIS ORDINANCE HAS NOT, UH, CHANGED ANY OF THOSE.

AND REGULAR, UM, SITE PLAN NOTICE WILL GO OUT JUST LIKE IT ALWAYS DOES.

UM, WHEN THE CUT, WHEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS FAST TRACK IT.

IN FACT, WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISION EFFORT, UM, THE, THE DRAFT ACTUALLY CHANGED THE NAME TO, UM, BECAUSE FAST TRACK DOESN'T ACTUALLY MEAN FAST, IT JUST MEANS APPROVING A SITE, A SINGLE SITE PLAN IN LAYERS.

UM, SO ON A, ON A TYPICAL, UM, PROJECT TODAY, THAT MIGHT BE THE, THE FIRST LAYER IS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS JUST GROUNDWORK.

AND THEN THE SECOND LAYER IS THE BUILDING.

AND THIS, UM, ORDINANCE WITH THE CHANGES IN TITLE 25 5, THE SITE PLAN CHAPTER, IT ENABLES US TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF TO WRITE VERY SPECIFIC, UM, APPLICATION EXPECTATIONS SO THAT BOTH US AND TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP AS THE APPLICANT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, AND PARTNER DEPARTMENTS AS THE REVIEWERS, UH, KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT WITH EACH LAYER THAT'S SUBMITTED, UM, AND CAN STREAMLINE THE REVIEW PROCESS.

BUT BY STREAMLINE, I JUST, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE ANY, UM, NOTIFICATION TO, TO FOLKS THAT DOESN'T CHANGE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT REQUIRE HEARINGS STILL REQUIRE HEARINGS.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

YEP, SOUNDS GOOD.

APPRECIATE IT.

JUST A, A FOLLOW UP TO, UH, VICE CHAIR'S, UH, COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANY WAY Y'ALL COULD FOLLOW UP WITH US WITH MORE DETAILS ABOUT KIND OF THIS, AN UPDATE FOR THE DISPLACEMENT FUNDS IN AN EMAIL OR, OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SEND TO KAYLA AND SHE CAN DISTRIBUTE TO THE COMMISSION? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

I WILL REACH OUT TO THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, BUT IF A VARIANCE IS REQUIRED, IT WILL GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT IT TODAY, AT THIS TIME.

UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK YOU'VE, WE'VE ASKED YOU TO HIT IT THREE DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND ONE MORE, ONE MORE TIME.

I THINK SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS IN THIS BODY IN GENERAL, UM, ARE, ARE TRYING TO VOICE SOME CONCERN ON MAYBE LANGUAGE THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATELY APPLIED, LIKE FAST TRACK AND MAYBE BEING MORE APPROPRIATE PARALLEL TRACKS, FOR INSTANCE.

UM, BUT IF, IF YOU COULD SPEAK ONE MORE TIME TO, TO ADDRESS MAYBE SOME CONCERN ABOUT, UM, THAT THIS, THAT THE WAY I HEAR IT IS THIS, UH, RESOLUTION OR THE, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD NOT CHANGE OR NOT CHANGE THE CODE TRIGGERS THAT WOULD BRING, UM, VARIANCES TO THIS BODY OR TO, TO OTHER BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THIS ORDINANCE, UM, IT'S, IT ESTABLISHES A FOUNDATION.

SO AS THE SCOPE AND DESIGN PROGRESSES, IF THERE IS A NEED FOR ANOTHER, UM, FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY GO BACK THROUGH THE ENTIRE, UH, ORDINANCE PROCESS.

AND, AND SO IT JUST ESTABLISHES A FOUNDATION FOR A PLACE TO PUT REGULATIONS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND ESTABLISHES SOME, SOME USES.

IT DOES NOT CHANGE, UH, THE NATURE OF NOTIFICATION.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE HOW VARIANCES ARE PROCESSED.

UM, AND, AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE IN A REGULATORY STAND STANDPOINT OF, OF WHAT IS CHANGING.

SO EVERYTHING, THE, THE, THE BASIC PROCESS OF SITE PLAN, SITE PLAN REVIEW REMAINS THE SAME WITH THIS ORDINANCE.

UM, ALL WE'VE DONE IS, UM, RE CHANGE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MISNAMED FAST TRACK SECTION, UM, TO ALLOW FOR, UM, WELL, IN TODAY'S CODE, IF YOU WANTED, I WAS DESCRIBING SITE PLANS THAT WHERE THERE'S LIKE THE, THE GROUND LAYER AND THEN THE NEXT LAYER IS THE BUILDING.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BUILDING, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET, YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE THAT KIND OF APPLICATION.

BUT THERE MAY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SEGMENTS OF THE SITE OF THE RAIL WOULD BE, WHICH SITE PLANS.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW THAT AT THIS POINT, BUT THERE COULD BE A STRETCH OF RAIL THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BUILDING AND WE WOULDN'T WANT IT TO BE, UM, LIKE KICKED OUT OF THAT PROCESS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT IN LAYERS TO ACCOMMODATE A VARIETY OF CONSTRUCTION METHODS.

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I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, CUZ WE GOT THE FIRST VERSION AND THEN WE GOT THE VERSION TOO.

AFTERWARDS, UM, I'M DOUBLE CHECKING.

UM, WONDERING, PUT IT ON PART FOUR A.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL AND IT'S FUNDED BY A PUBLIC ENTITY, BUT, BUT WHAT'S SCRATCHED OUT IS LOCATED ON PUBLIC, PUBLICLY OWNED LAND, OR IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF A PUBLIC EASEMENT.

DOES THIS, OKAY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UM, THAT, SO THE, THE VERSION ONE, UM, WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DRAFTED TO INCLUDE ON PUBLIC LAND.

AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, WITH THAT DRAFT WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, APPLICA SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS.

AS WE, AS WE KNOW FROM THE, THE, THE CASE BEFORE THIS APPLICA SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS CAN TAKE A YEAR, YOU KNOW, 18 MONTHS.

AND THE, WELL, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF POINTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, OBTAINING LAND, PURCHASING LAND CAN ALSO TAKE A LONG TIME.

AND SO WE WOULD WANT THE ORDINANCE TO APPLY, UH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD WANT AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE SITE PLAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE OTHER THINGS ARE ARE HAPPENING.

SO, UM, AND, AND THIS IS TRUE, THIS GOES TO MY, MY SECOND POINT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PERMITS AND REGULATIONS RUN WITH THE LAND, NOT THE OWNER.

AND SO IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT TO HAVE, UM, AN ORDINANCE THAT'S ABOUT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS TO BE LIMITED TO, UM, OR, OR TO BE LIMITED IN, IN RELATION TO WHO OWNS THE LAND.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EVEN TODAY WE HAVE SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING WHILE A REAL, WHILE A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION IS HAPPENING, OR MAYBE AN OWNER, UM, APPLIES FOR A, UH, A SITE PLAN PERMIT WITH THE INTENT OF SELLING THE PROPERTY.

UM, FOR THIS ORDINANCE, WE WANT THE APPLICATION TO BE ABLE TO BE SUBMITTED AND BE SUBJECT TO THIS ORDINANCE, SUBJECT TO IT SO THAT THEY CAN APPLY IN THE LAYERS AS I WAS DESCRIBING.

UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THE, UM, THE PURCHASE OF LAND IS STILL ON AN ONGOING, UM, SITUATION, ALTHOUGH WHO, REGARDLESS OF WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE TO SIGN THE APPLICATION.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT WITHOUT AN OWNER.

THE OWNER WOULD HAVE TO SIGN THE PROPERTY.

SO SPECIFICALLY IF THERE WAS A MAINTENANCE FACILITY OR A PARK AND RIDE, UM, THAT WAS STILL PRIVATELY OWNED AND, AND THE OWNER WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND SIGN THE APPLICATION TO ALLOW FOR THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, YEAR LONG SITE PLAN, APPLICATION PROCESS TO START, THEY COULD DO THAT AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR IT IN THE LAYERS.

SO, OKAY.

I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, SO I'M THINKING ABOUT DISPLACEMENT, WHETHER IT'S A BUSINESS OR RESIDENTIAL.

SO BASICALLY I COULD BE A HOMEOWNER THAT MAYBE IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A PROPO TO THIS PROPOSED TERMINAL.

I WOULD HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THE PERMIT.

I UNDERSTAND YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT I COULD EXPECT IS THAT I'M ABOUT TO BE DISPLACED.

WELL, AS JENNIFER SAID, LONG BEFORE AN APPLICATION IS EVEN PREPARED FOR THE CITY, IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY TO BE DISPLACED, THEY WOULD BE CONTACTED LONG BEFORE WE EVER GOT TO A PLACE OF SITE PLAN.

SO THEY, SO NO ONE WOULD, NO ONE WOULD HAVE A SITE PLAN APPLICATION.

THAT WOULD NEVER BE HOW, SO, HOW ANYONE FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE IN PROXIMITY? NO.

MAYBE I NEED TO HAVE A SIDEBAR WITH YOU, BUT THE WAY I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS, BECAUSE IT'S TAKING OUT PUBLICLY OWNED LAND, SO THAT MEANS ANYBODY'S LAND, NO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO OWN IT.

I'M, YEAH, I'M TRYING TO, YEAH, CUZ IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THAT HAVING OWNERSHIP IN AN APPLICATION IN, IN A, IN AN ORDINANCE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS IS NOT A GOOD FIT BECAUSE MM-HMM.

DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS RUN WITH THE LAND AND THEY'RE NOT TIED TO OWNERSHIP.

SO WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT WOULD BE DISPLACED I THINK IS WHAT I, YOU KNOW, IF I'M, IF I'M A RESIDENTIAL OWNER AND MY, MY HOME MIGHT HAPPEN TO BE IN A PROPOSED LOCATION WHERE THIS TERM TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL'S GONNA BE LOCATED,

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I MEAN, NO, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SIGN AN APP.

NO ONE HAS TO SIGN AN APPLICATION FOR, FOR A PERMIT.

IT'S JUST THAT APPLICATIONS THAT DEVELOPMENT PERMITS ARE NOT TIED TO LAND OWNERSHIP.

AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR CONSISTENTLY ACROSS THE CITY.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT, UM, DISPLACEMENT IS A TOTALLY SEPARATE, IT'S AN IMPORTANT BUT SEPARATE CONVERSATION FROM JUST DEVELOPMENT PERMITS.

SO DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, WHETHER IT'S A SIGN PERMIT OR A, UM, OR A PERMIT FOR, FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING OR, YOU KNOW, OR A HOUSE PERMITS RUN WITH THE LAND, NOT THE OWNER.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I'LL STOP.

I'LL PROBABLY NEED TO SIDEBAR WITH YOU TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.

CUZ THE WAY I INTERPRET DISPLACEMENT, ANTI DISPLACEMENT IS THAT THE CURRENT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE THERE WILL NOT BE MOVE FORCED.

THEY WON'T BE DISPLACED.

SO THAT'S WHAT ANTI DISPLACEMENT MEANS.

IT'S NOT SO, YES, ABSOLUTELY.

AND, AND, AND I WILL REACH OUT TO THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND, AND GET THAT, HAVE THEM, UH, PROVIDE INFORMATION TO YOU ABOUT THE ANTI DISPLACEMENT EFFORTS, WHICH ARE, UM, SEPARATE FROM DEVELOPMENT PERMITS.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

YES, PLEASE.

UM, I WAS WONDERING, I, I'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH A NEPO THING BEFORE, SO I WONDERED IF WE COULD GET ATP WHEN THEY GET THE CONTRACTORS' REPORTS, IT SAYS THAT THEY WILL BE APPROVED BY CITY STAFF AT THAT POINT, COULD WE ASK THEM TO MAKE A REPORT TO US SO THAT PERHAPS AS A COMMISSION WE COULD MAKE A COMMENT ON THE, EITHER TO THE CITY AND THEN THE CITY WOULD PROCESS IT OR AT LEAST ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS, UH, BEFORE THE NPA IS UH, SUBMITTED.

ARE WE, WE COULD, AS A COMMISSION SUBMIT NPA COMMENTS ON THE NORM.

THIS IS BERG.

I I THINK THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT PLEASE SPEAK TO THIS.

BUT I THINK THERE'S A NPA COMPONENT BEFORE, BEFORE THE CONTRACTOR, THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR IS, IS BROUGHT IN.

AND I, AND I THINK YOU'RE MAKING REFERENCE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON TO THE CONTRACTOR'S CONSTRUCTION NOISE ABATEMENT PLAN OR, OR THE PROJECT SPECIFIC ABATEMENT PLAN THAT WILL HAVE TO BE REVIEWED.

UM, THEY HAVE TO BE REVIEWED.

YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE GONNA BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY CITY STAFF? IS THAT THEY BEING THE NOISE ABATEMENT OR THE, THE NOISE MITIGATION PLAN? UM, THE FOLLOWING, UH, WELL, IT'S IN OUR BACKUP IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT.

IT'S EXHIBIT B.

AND THE PROCESS IS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ATP WILL REQUIRE REPORTS FROM THE CONTRACTORS AND THEN THE CITY WILL APPROVE IT, CITY STAFF.

SO IF AT THAT POINT WE ASK FOR THEM TO, UM, WE COULD EITHER, UM, APPROVE IT, WE COULD BE APP, I MEAN WE COULD DISCUSS IT MM-HMM.

AND PERHAPS SUBMIT OUR COMMENTS TO CITY STAFF.

OR IF WE DECIDE AS A COMMISSION, WE COULD SEND OUR COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO NEPA, WHICHEVER IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE TO STAFF.

AND SO THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC AND COMMISSIONS WILL BE ABLE TO REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE DRAFT DI, WHICH INCLUDES NOISE MITIGATION COMMITMENTS.

ONCE THE E IS FINALIZED, THOSE MITIGATION MEASURES WILL BE INCLUDED IN CONTRACT DOCUMENTS AND MONITORED FOR IMPLEMENTATION DURING CONSTRUCTION.

AND ALL OF THAT MONITORING WILL BE, UM, PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD GET A REVIEW WHEN THE CONTRACTORS SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO CITY STAFF FOR APPROVAL BEFORE YOU SUBMIT IT TO NEPA SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING.

ANY CONTRACTOR REPORTING WOULD OCCUR WELL AFTER NEPA, UM, AFTER, YES.

SO THE NEPA PERIOD IS REALLY WHERE THE NATURE OF THE COMMITMENTS ARE IDENTIFIED.

SO IT'S REALLY AN EARLY STAGE TO SHAPE WHAT THE COMMITMENTS ARE, AND THEN THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION AND THE CONTRACTS AND ANY SUBSEQUENT REPORTING WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WELL AFTER THAT NEPA PROCESS CONCLUDES.

SO WE COULD, AS A COMMISSION REVIEW THE NEPA DOCUMENTS AND DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE PERIOD, SUBMIT COMMENTS.

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YES, YES.

I WAS, I WAS TRYING TO, UH, MAKE SUGGESTIONS WITH THE CONTRACTORS' REPORTS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT NPA IS OKAY.

GOT IT.

I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THEN PLEASE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE? ALL RIGHT.

UH, UM, OH YEAH.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON, UH, PER THE, THE RULES THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOU.

UM, THANK YOU MA'AM.

UM, ALRIGHT.

UH, I'VE COBBLED TOGETHER A MOTION HERE.

SO, UH, I THINK I'VE CAPTURED SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, BUT, UH, LISTENED TO THIS AND WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW THIS GOES.

UM, WHEREAS, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE BEGINNING STUFF HERE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION SUPPORTS THE IMPLEMENTATION AND OPERATION OF PROJECT CONNECT, AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE WILL NOT CHANGE THE CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT TRIGGER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, REVIEWS AND APPROVALS.

THEREFORE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN RESPONSE TO RESOLUTION 20 2020 129 DASH THREE WITH THE FOLLOWING THREE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS.

NUMBER ONE, UH, THAT PROJECT CONNECT COMMITS TO BRIEFING THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND SEEKING OUR RECOMMENDATION ON PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ANNUALLY, AT A MINIMUM, THAT PROJECT CONNECT COMMITS TO IMPLEMENTING A MULTILINGUAL PUBLIC OUTREACH BASED ON THE LANGUAGES SPOKEN TO THE TARGET POPULATIONS.

AND THREE, THAT PROJECT CONNECT COMMITS TO PRESENTING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION EARLY IN THE PUB NEPA PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PERIOD TO SEEK THE COMMISSION'S COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

COULD YOU ADD BEFORE WE, UM, I MEAN, AS WE'RE WRITING THERE TO THE LAST SENTENCE BEFORE THE, UM, ENVIR THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE POINT WHERE WE WANT TO COMMENT DURING THE NEPA COMMENTS.

DURING, SO I'M GONNA SAY PROJECT CONNECT COMMITS TO PRESENTING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION EARLY IN THE DRAFT EIS NPA PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PERIOD.

UM, WELL, NO, THE, OKAY.

LET, LET'S, LET'S SEE IF THIS, THIS LIVES PAST A, A SECOND AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

HOW'S THAT SOUND, THOMPSON? OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A SECOND? I'LL GIVE YOU A THIRD SECOND AND BY PRIMER.

UM, OKAY.

THOMPSON, UH, WORD WORDSMITH ME, PLEASE.

BEFORE THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT IS, UM, ISSUED.

CORRECT.

SO WE, WE WANNA MAKE COMMENTS DURING THE NEPA COMMENT PERIOD, AND THEN THEY WILL BE SUBMITTED BEFORE THE FINAL IMPACT.

SO WE WANNA MAKE, WE DON'T WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

WE WANNA BE, UH, WE WANT TO, TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY SUBMIT AND, AND LET, I'M GONNA SPEAK TO THIS, BUT PLEASE TELL ME IF I'M SAYING THINGS WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE WE WANT TO BE COMMENTING DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON THE DRAFT DOCUMENT, UM, OR THE DRAFT DOCUMENTS, CUZ THERE'S MULTIPLE ONES.

IS THAT RIGHT, Y'ALL? YES.

TELL ME IF I'M WRONG ON IT.

NO, THAT, THAT WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE.

SO I, I THINK THAT SPEAKS CLEARER TO IT NOT HAPPENING BEFORE THE FINAL, BUT ACTUALLY DURING THE DRAFT WOULD BE, WOULD BE BETTER, I THINK.

AND DOES THIS INCLUDE, UH, THE SOUND COMMENTS OR, WELL, I MEAN THE, THE PLANS FOR SOUND MONITORING OR THAT IS SECOND.

I, I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT OR I CAN ADD SOMETHING TO THAT.

IT HOWEVER YOU FEEL IS APPROPRIATE.

TO THE, TO THE, TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS RELATED, ARE COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO SOUND AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ELEMENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YES.

UH, WELL, LET ME SPEAK AND THEN YOU CAN PHRASE

[02:25:01]

UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY VIA OUR CHARTER TO HANDLE NOISE.

UH, RIGHT NOW THE CITY STAFF IS UNDERSTAFFED TO DO THIS CITYWIDE 24 HOURS A DAY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 24 HOUR A DAY CITYWIDE CONSTRUCTION DOING THIS.

SO WE HAVE TO, AS A CITY, BE STAFFED AND ORGANIZED AND THEN HAVE THE METHODS BY WHICH WE COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC A WAY OF CALLING SOMEONE OR CONTACTING SOMEONE IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THERE'S TOO MUCH NOISE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WHEN I'M TRYING TO SLEEP.

SO, YOU KNOW, HOW DO I DO THIS? SO YOU CAN DISTILL THAT INTO ONE SENTENCE, I'M SURE.

BUT, UH, THAT'S KIND OF MY, MY CONCERN.

LET ME TAKE A, TAKE A RUN AT THIS WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE SITTING HERE AND, AND I'LL TRY TO SPEAK IT UP, BUT ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS WHILE WE'RE TALKING? IT WAS JUST MY INTENTION THAT WE WOULD REVIEW IT ON THE SOUND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT, UM, EXHIBIT B REFERS TO.

SO I GUESS I JUST DIDN'T STATE MY INTENTION CLEARLY.

SO THANKS MR. BEMO FOR CATCHING THAT.

BEAR WITH ME.

30 SECONDS.

I HAVE FOUR KIDS.

I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO SOUND.

UH, SO WE GOT THREE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS.

I'M JUST GONNA READ THROUGH 'EM ONE MORE TIME.

THE, THE LAST ONE'S, THE ONLY ONE I'VE REALLY WORDSMITHED, UH, PROJECT CONNECT COMMITS TO, TO BRIEF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND SEEK OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ANNUALLY.

AT A MINIMUM PROJECT CONNECT COMMITS TO IMPLEMENTING MULTILINGUAL PUBLIC OUTREACH BASED ON THE LANGUAGES SPOKEN IN THE TARGET POPULATIONS.

AND THE THIRD ONE, PROJECT CONNECT COMMITS TO PRESENTING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION EARLY IN THE DRAFT E NEPA PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PERIOD TO SEEK THE COMMISSION'S COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO SOUND MANAGEMENT, MITIGATION, AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ELEMENTS.

WE READY TO VOTE? LET'S DO THIS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION BEFORE US AS AMENDED.

UH, RAISE YOUR HAND.

LOOKS LIKE IT'S EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE.

UH, BRISTOL'S.

UH, ABSENT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH GUYS.

VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, EIGHT 30, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE AND COME BACK FOR, UH, AGENDA ITEM FIVE, PLEASE.

ITEM IS NUMBER FIVE, UH, WORKING GROUP REPORT AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AN ORDINANCE REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 25 RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS.

49.

LET'S, UH, RECONVENE HERE AND, UH, START TRACKING ON THE AGENDA TO THE NEXT ITEM.

UM, OKAY, NEXT

[5. Working Group report and possible action on additional recommendations for an ordinance regarding amendments to Title 25 related to environmental protection, landscape requirements, and site plan requirements]

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAD A WORKING GROUP, UH, TO ADD ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION FOR THE TITLE 25 ON THAT WORKING GROUP.

IT WAS COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, COMMISSIONERS BRIER AND COMMISSIONER AGUIRE AND SECRETARY BRISTOL AND MYSELF.

UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE MAP THAT LIZ JOHNSTON PROVIDED TO US.

LIZ, IF YOU WANT TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THE MAP.

UM, YES.

THIS IS A, UM, UM, A MAP THAT, UM, OUR GIS FOLKS PUT TOGETHER TO GIVE A GENERAL VISUALIZATION OF LOTS THAT WOULD BE, UM, ABLE TO UTILIZE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN LIGHT PROCESS CURRENTLY AT THIS TIME, WHICH WAS A REQUEST FROM THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY.

UM, THERE IS A DISCLAIMER ON THAT MAP.

IT WAS, UM, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE COMPLETED DATA ANALYSIS PREVIOUSLY, BUT THE, THE MAP ITSELF WASN'T COMPLETED UNTIL, UM, EARLIER

[02:30:01]

TODAY.

AND, UM, JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS WAS THERE THE BEST DATA AVAILABLE, UM, WITH, FOR THE LOTS THAT, UM, APPEAR TO BE PART OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION APPEAR TO BE ZONED, UM, WITH, UH, ENOUGH DENSITY TO ALLOW THE UNITS THAT ARE ALLOWED AND UNDER HALF AN ACRE.

SO THANK YOU.

IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO SEE IT JUST KIND OF AS A GENERAL TREND RATHER THAN LOT BY LOT.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, YOU HAD A QUESTION? OH, THAT WAS THE WRONG BUTTON.

COMMISSIONER TALK.

OKAY, THERE YOU ARE.

HERE I AM .

ALRIGHTY.

UM, I'M JUST WONDERING, MY, MY CURIOSITY IS ABOUT THE ONES THAT WERE CLUSTERED.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT EACH BLOCK COULD DO THE, AND IT WOULD BE LIKE AN ENTIRE BLOCK? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT IS SHOWING, UM, A PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION THAT IS ZONED, UM, WITH THE, UH, TO ALLOW THAT DENSITY AND HAS THE, HAPPENS TO HAVE THE, THE SIZE LOTS THAT, UM, WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE CY PLAN LIGHT PROPOSAL.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE THAT THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM VARIOUS AREAS, UM, IN JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, BUT, UH, ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, PLANNING COMMISSION, HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, ET CETERA, THAT THIS COMPONENT PROBABLY NEEDS MORE TIME AND MORE STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT.

SO IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THIS, THE MISSING MIDDLE PART WILL BE PEELED OFF OF THE PHASE ONE AND PUT IN A, THE PHASE TWO OR SOME OTHER PROCESS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE A MORE HOLISTIC DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, UM, INCLUDING OTHER ELEMENTS, NOT JUST RELATED TO WATER QUALITY, BUT ZONING AND, AND HAVE A STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PROCESS OUTSIDE OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSION PROCESS.

UM, ALSO, I LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, THE WORKING GROUP MET TWICE AND WE, WE MET FOR ABOUT ACCUMULATE ACCUMULATIVE OF ABOUT THREE HOURS FOR THE WORKING GROUP.

AND ALSO I LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT SECRETARY BRISTOL WORKED ON THE MOTION FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE HOURS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT WE'RE, THAT WAS ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE.

IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

FUNCTIONAL GREENS SO WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT ITS REAL WORLD APPLICATION AND SUPPORT THE GROWTH OF ITS USE.

LET'S , LET'S READ THIS MOTION.

WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION HAS CONSIDERED THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 25 IN A WORKING GROUP AND IS MAKING ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS.

AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THIS ORDINANCE RESPONDS TO COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 2 2 69 DASH 61, WHICH INITIATED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS RELATED TO ENVIRONMENT DRAINAGE AND LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS.

THE RES RESOLUTION DIRECTED STAFF TO PRESENT MOST OF THE INITIATED AMENDMENTS TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.

AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESIDENTS EAST OF I 35 HAVE NOT SHARED THE SAME ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS AS THOSE WITHIN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONES OR WHERE ENDANGERED SPECIES EXISTS IN WEST AUSTIN.

AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO TITLE 25 HAS NOT GONE THROUGH PUBLIC REVIEW OUTSIDE OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THEREFORE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 25 WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT OR RECOMMENDATIONS SECTION 25 DASH TWO DASH EIGHT IRRIGATION REQUIREMENTS.

RECOMMEND THAT ZERO ESCAPING AND DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS BE PART OF THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS TO REDUCE THE DEPENDENCY ON IRRIGATION AND INCREASE THE SURVIVABILITY OF THE PLANTS INSTALLED IN PARKING AREAS.

F REMOVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY TO GRANT A VARIANCE AND INCLUDE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AS THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT VARIANCES FUNCTIONAL GREEN.

WE RECOGNIZE AND SUPPORT ALL FUNCTIONAL GREEN STANDARDS BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW AREA OF CODE.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION REQUESTS PRESENTATIONS ON THE PROJECTS UTILIZING

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SECTION 25 DASH EIGHT DASH FOUR TWO ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES.

REMOVE ALL ADDITIONS TO THIS SECTION.

THE ADDITIONS, UH, GO TOO FAR WITH ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS AND THE REMOVAL OF CITIZEN OVERSIGHT VIA PUBLIC NOTICES OF REVIEW FROM BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

BECAUSE THIS SECTION REMOVES ALL CITIZEN OVERSIGHT AND PUBLIC REVIEW IS NOT EQUITABLE.

SECTION 25 DASH TWO DASH 79 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF WATER CRAFT SHALL BE PERFORMED IN A MANNER THAT PREVENTS DISCHARGE OF FUEL, OIL, OR OTHER POLLUTANTS INTO THE WATER.

ADD IN THE EVENT OF A LEAK OR SPILL DURING MAINTENANCE OWNER OR REPAIR SERVICE WILL CONTAIN THE LEAK OR SPILL AND DISPOSE OF THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL PROPERLY.

REQUIRE ALL FUELS, OIL AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS BE STORED AT LEAST 25 FEET OUTSIDE OF THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLANE.

SECTION 25 DASH EIGHT DASH TWO SEVEN REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTION IN THE WATER SUPPLY RULE AND WATER SUPPLY SUBURBAN WATERSHEDS.

INCREASE 50 FEET TO 75 FEET FOR SHORELINE PROTECTION.

INCREASE SETBACKS ALONG WETLANDS TO 50 FEET.

SECTION 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 2 32.

DEDICATED FUND STAFF WILL GIVE AT LEAST ONE PRESENTATION PER FISCAL YEAR TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION ON ALL ASPECTS OF THE DEDICATED FUND.

SECTION 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 92.

CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES ESTABLISHED INCLUDE URBAN WATERSHEDS EQUITY RESPONSE SUMMARY, EXCUSE ME, ME.

AND, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS REQUIRE ALL ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES TO BE TRACKED AND AN ANNUAL REPORT BE PRESENTED TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND OTHER RELEVANT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND COUNCIL.

SECTION 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 2 33 BARDEN SPRING ZONE OPERATING PERMIT INCLUDE COMMISSIONS ON PUBLIC REVIEW, UH, EXCUSE ME, INCLUDE COMMISSIONS OR PUBLIC REVIEW.

THIS SECTION REMOVES ALL CITIZEN OVERSIGHT FROM BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

PARKING LOTS REQUIRE EV CHARGING STATIONS OF AT LEAST 5% OF THE SMALL PROJECTS AND COMMERCIAL USAGE.

SMALL PROJECTS MISSING MIDDLE.

CLARIFY THAT THE SMALL PROJECTS THREE TO 11 UNIT PROGRAM WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED ON SF THREE OR HIGHER AND NOT ON SF ONE OR SF TWO.

WE CANNOT SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF ADJACENT LANDOWNERS AND, UH, NEIGHBORS BEING REMOVED FROM THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT NOTIFIED NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AT A MINIMUM IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

RECOMMEND DELAYING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT CHANGES IN RESPONSE TO SMALL SCALE, MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING PROJECTS WITHIN THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE, AND REQUIRE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF TO WORK WITH AUSTIN'S EQUITY OFFICE TO ADDRESS INEQUITIES CREATED BY DIFFERENT RULES BY THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE AND CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES TO ENSURE ALL RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ARE REVIEWED FOR ALL ENVIRONMENTAL WATER QUALITY REGULATIONS, WHICH WILL MINIMIZE CONFUSION ABOUT CODE AC APPLICABILITY, ADDRESS INCONSISTENT, UM, ENFORCEMENT AND POOR ENVIRONMENTAL OUTCOMES LONG SUBJECTED UPON THE RESIDENTS IN CENTRAL AND EAST AUSTIN AND WITHIN THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE REQUIRE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT COMPLETE THE PROCESS OF STUDYING LOCALIZED FLOODING IN ALL THE AUSTIN AREAS.

THIS PROCESS WILL ENSURE EQUITABLE APPLICATION OF ALL STORM WATER DRAINAGE AND FLOODING PROTECTIONS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT ALL CREEKS FLOWING FROM EAST AUSTIN EVENTUALLY EITHER INDEPENDENTLY OR AFTER EMPTYING INTO THE COLORADO RIVER.

ENTER THE

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CARRIZO, UH, WILCOX AQUIFER GROUND WATER SUPPLY BE, UH, WATERSHED.

THIS WATERSHED.

THESE WATERSHED SHOULD, UM, HAVE SIMILAR PROTECTIONS UNDER THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONES.

ACKNOWLEDGE THE SENSITIVITY OF ALL THE ALLUVIAL AQUIFER SURROUNDING THE COLORADO RIVER THAT EXISTS EAST OF LONGHORN DAM.

THESE AREAS SHOULD HAVE SIMILAR PROTECTIONS UNDER THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONES.

THESE AREAS SHOULD ALSO REQUIRE GREATER SETBACKS.

DEVELOP IT IN THE ALLUVIAL PAIN SURROUNDING THE COLORADO RIVER.

SHOULD BE, SHOULD FOLLOW SIMILAR STANDARDS SET FOR IN THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS INITIATIVES.

EXCUSE ME, I'VE ONE MINOR COMMENT.

UH, IT'S NOT AN ALLUVIAL PAIN, ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE A PAIN.

IT'S PROBABLY SHOULD BE PLAIN.

UH, MOTION.

SECOND BY BRIER.

OH, YOU WANNA GO ? I PREFER, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UM, I HAD A QUESTION.

MAYBE THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT.

UM, I'M STILL, YOU KNOW, JUST IN LIKE CURSORY LOOKING, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT UNDER SORT OF THE LDC REWRITE, BUT SINCE WE'RE SORT OF TALKING ABOUT IT IN PROTECTIONS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, SUBURBAN AND RURAL WATERSHEDS, FRANKLY, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, YOU KNOW, COUNTRY CLUB EAST WEST AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CARSON AS FAR AS LIKE WATERSHEDS, THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS SUBURBAN AND NOT URBAN, CONSIDERING LITERALLY THE 70, 87 41 ZIP CODE IS HAVING TONS OF DEVELOPMENT IN IT AS PRETTY MUCH LIKE AN URBAN PART OF THE CITY.

NOW IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTH SHORE, UM, AND STUFF LIKE THAT, UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW HE WOULD GIVE IT MORE PROTECTION OTHER THAN MOVING IT INTO A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUBURBAN WATERSHEDS, THEY'RE WITHIN CITY LIMITS OR WITHIN SORT OF LIKE A, UH, URBAN ZONE OR, OR CENTRAL WITHIN SOMETHING.

RIGHT? I THINK, UH, IT'S AT LEAST WORTH THINKING ABOUT CONSIDERING THAT THIS PART OF TOWN WILL PROBABLY HAVE LESS PROTECTION THAN THE PARTS OF TOWN THAT ARE CONSIDERED URBAN WATERSHEDS, WHEN REALLY IT'S A LOT OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT GOING ON THERE.

SO, JUST A THOUGHT.

YEAH, IF I MAY, I WILL, UM, JUST SAY THAT URBAN WATERSHEDS HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

THERE'S NO CUT AND FILL LIMITS CURRENTLY.

THERE'S NO SLOPE PROTECTIONS, THERE'S NO WATERSHED AND PERVIOUS COVER LIMITS.

UM, SO IT'S BETTER TO KEEP IT SUBURBAN THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN NOW.

MORE PROTECTION, THE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PUSH FOR THE ENTIRE CITY TO BE SUBURBAN THEN.

RIGHT? BARTON SPRING ZONE IS THE MOST, UH, PROTECTIVE.

IF YOU WANNA, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, PICK APART EVERY PART OF THIS MOTION NECESSARILY OR NECESSARILY AGREE WITH EVERY PART OF THIS MOTION.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT THE SENTENCE MEANS.

REQUIRE EV CHARGING STATIONS OF AT LEAST 5% OF THE SMALL PROJECTS IN COMMERCIAL USAGE.

YEAH, I WANTED TO, IS IT A PERCENTAGE OF THE PARKING SPOTS OR THE PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECTS? OR DO Y'ALL RECALL? IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BRISTOL, THE IDEA WAS IT WAS GONNA BE 5% OF THE NUMBER OF PARKING LOT SPOTS.

SO IF THE DEVELOPMENT HAD 100 PARKING SPOTS, THEN THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST FIVE EV CHARGING STATIONS IN IT.

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I JUST THINK IT, THE, THE SENTENCE NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO INDICATE THE PERCENT OF PARKING SPACES.

AND, UM, JUST A GENERAL COMMENT THAT, UM, WITH THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THAT I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE DENSITY IN MISSING MIDDLE AND, UM, HOUSING.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY REFLECTED, BUT I JUST, UM, AND IF WE WANT WANTED TO AS A BODY, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S A REALLY, UM, WHAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN HERE OR NOT, BUT THAT'S MY SENTIMENT THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD OH, SHOULD I GET IN? AND I, I'M NOT IN THAT POSITION TO THE DENSITY PIECE.

WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS DOING THE DENSITY IN THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RECEIVING THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS THAT CERTAIN PARTS OF AUSTIN HAVE RECEIVED ALL ALONG.

AND SO SOME OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE IN THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE NOT HAD ANY ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS.

SO I, I THINK WE SHOULD, THOSE AREAS SHOULD HAVE THE EQUAL PROTECTIONS AS OTHER AREAS OF WEST AUSTIN THAT HAVE HAD THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS.

ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS EQUITY.

UM, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT DENSE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING PUT IN DENSE LOCATIONS ARE NOT SUBSEQUENTLY GOING TO BE DISPLACED BECAUSE OF POOR PLANNING AND WE'RE RESULTING IN FLOODING LOT TO LOT FLOODING.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY JUDICIAL WITH.

AND YEAH, AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE BEING PROTECTED, THERE'S PUBLIC SAFETY.

YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.

WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL AND JUDICIOUS IN HOW WE APPROACH IT.

I THINK THE MOST GLARING, UM, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE BACKUP ON THE FIRST CASE THAT WE HEARD, THERE'S THAT MAP THAT SHOWS THE EDWARD SQUIER AND ALL OF THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE LIKE WEST OF MOPAC, YOU KNOW, SO, AND I THOUGHT, WOW, NOW I SEE THE MAP THAT SHOWS THOSE AREAS THAT ARE DEFINITELY HAD THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS AND EAST ETHOS AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT IN IT.

AND SO THAT TIES INTO THE ART ARGUMENT ON SYSTEMIC AND INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM, YOU KNOW, SO THANK YOU.

SO FOR THAT ELEMENT, WE'RE WE'RE, THAT, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON, ON, ON PAGE TWO, RECOMMEND DELAYING PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT CHANGES.

I JUST PROPOSE WITH PAGE JUDICIOUS IN HOW WE DO IT.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE.

I DON'T THINK IT, I DON'T THINK THAT ELEMENT SPEAKS TO BEING AGAINST THE, THE MISSING METAL PART, UH, COMMISSIONER SHARE.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

AS DRINKING WATER FOR MANY PEOPLE FROM HERE ALL THE WAY TO ARKANSAS, AND IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED PROTECTED.

I WOULD MAKE ONE, ONE COMMENT AS WELL.

UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE SECOND TO LAST BULLET RELATED TO THE CARA WILCOX AQUIFER.

I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT ALL CREEKS FLOWING FROM EAST AUSTIN EVENTUALLY ENTER THAT, THAT ENTER THE COLORADO, ENTER THE CZO WILCOX AQUIFER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT RECHARGES FROM THE FOOTPRINT OF THE COLORADO RIVER.

SO JUST MAKE THAT COMMENT TO THE, TO THE GROUP.

I WOULD LIKE TO STEP IN AND SAY THAT LITERALLY I AGREE WITH YOU.

HOWEVER, COMMISSIONER BRISTOL COMMENTED TO ME ON THE PHONE TODAY THAT SHE WANTED TO ENTER THAT AS AN ATTEMPT TO EXPAND THE CONCEPT OF PROTECTING THE EAST AUSTIN AREA BY HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT THERE IS A AQUIFER THAT IS FED BY CREEKS AND STREAMS AND SEEPS IN THAT PART OF AUSTIN.

AND BY INCLUDING THAT IN THERE, THAT WE GO ON RECORD BY STATING THAT AND IT LAYS THE GROUNDWORK FOR PERHAPS AT A LATER DATE, SOME OTHER BODY, THE COUNCIL AND OTHER COMMISSION STAFF TO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF PROTECTION IN EAST AUSTIN BECAUSE THAT AQUIFER RUNS FROM DOWN PAST SAN ANTONIO ALL THE WAY UP TO ARKANSAS AND SAN ANTONIO AS DIBS ON MOST OF THE DRINKING WATER OUT OF THAT.

AND OTHER COMPANIES FOR PROFIT COMPANIES TAKE WATER OUT OF THAT AND THEN SELL IT TO WATER DISTRICTS OUT IN THE AREA.

SO IT IS USED

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THAT'S WHAT SHE SHARED WITH ME.

AND SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD WITH WHAT SHE SAID IN SUPPORTING OF IT, ALTHOUGH LITERALLY I HAVEN'T DONE PERSONAL RESEARCH ON IT, SO I DON'T KNOW.

YOU WANNA, OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON, ON, ON THAT OR OTHER ELEMENTS? I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT BECAUSE WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE A FIRST STEP ON EQUAL PROTECTION, AGAIN.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? YES.

HAVING HEARD NO ADDITIONAL, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GO AROUND, UH, AND, UH, AND DO A ROLL CALL, UH, STARTING WITH YOU GUYS REMOTE.

UM, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, UH, DO YOU SUPPORT THE MOTION AS AMENDED? YES.

AND THIS BUILDS ON OUR PREVIOUS AMENDMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT.

IT DOES NOT, IT DOES NOT REPLACE IT YET.

COMMISSIONER SHERA? YEAH.

VICE CHAIR.

THIS IS BERG.

I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN.

UH, IT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

SEE IF NUMBER ONE.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR HARD WORK, UH, UH, AND, AND DILIGENT HARD WORK.

LET'S MOVE ON TO,

[COMMITTEE REPORTS]

UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS.

UM, ANYTHING TO REPORT ON ANY OF THESE, UH, PRIMER OR, OR ANYONE? YEAH.

UH, I HAD REQUESTED THAT, UM, CALEB PULL IN, UH, KEITH MARS AND, UH, TO GIVE THE COMMISSION AN UPDATE ON AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS, THE HERITAGE TREE ORDINANCE.

AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR FEEDBACK AS TO WHEN HE'S GOING TO SHOW UP.

UM, KAYLA'S AT A CONFERENCE, SO I'LL CHECK WITH HER.

I KNOW THAT SHE'S HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CASES AND UPCOMING AGENDAS THAT, UM, IT'S MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHEN EXACTLY IT WILL HAPPEN, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY HAVING, UM, THEY ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FINALIZING A DATE.

I WOULD ONLY LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I TURNED 68, SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS BEFORE I'M DEAD.

SO , CERTAINLY FASTER TRACK.

UM, ALRIGHT.

UH, ANYTHING ELSE FROM JOINT SUSTAINABILITY OR SOUTH SHORE? OKAY.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JOIN THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE OR PRESSURE THOSE TO, TO, TO ATTEND? UM, IT'S, YEAH, SO, UM, THEY'VE BEEN HAVING QUANTUM ISSUES, SO THEY NEED PEOPLE FROM A COUPLE MORE COMMISSIONS OR BOARDS TO BE APPOINTED SO THAT, UH, WE CAN ACTUALLY MEET REGULARLY.

SO FUN TIMES.

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE.

THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD IS GOING TO BE MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER THE 12TH.

GREAT.

GOOD.