Oct 12, 2022 Community Technology &amp; Telecommunications Commission

AND COMMISSIONER SUPTA, UH, SUMETA, COMMISSIONER SUMETA REPRESENTING DISTRICT 10.

AGENDA TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE 2000, EXCUSE ME, THE SEPTEMBER 14TH MEETING OF OUR COMMISSION.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, BEEN CALLED TO ORDER.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED TO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION GENERAL AT THIS TIME.

THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH OUR

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE THAT IN YOUR CALENDAR INVITATION AND HOLD FOR THIS ONLINE.

AND, UH, THOSE IN THE ROOM, OF COURSE, HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF THEM.

I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO A MOTION TO APPROVE IN A SECOND, AND THEN WE'LL HOLD A VOTE CHAIR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER.

DO SCOOP TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.

I SECOND THAT MOTION WITH THAT.

THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HOLD A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AND SHOW YOUR HAND.

GO AHEAD AND PROCEED THEN TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, STAFF AND COMMUNITY BRIEFINGS ON DIGITAL INCLUSION WEEK 2022.

SO WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF ALL PRESENT HERE, SEVEN IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND ABSTAINING ZERO.

SO WITH THAT, THEN THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AND WE CAN PROCEED IN OUR AGENDA NOW.

UH, WE'LL HAVE TO GET CREATIVE, UH, BECAUSE OUR AGENDA NOW CALLS FOR, UH, THE PRESENTATION BY, UH, OUR INTERIM CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER, DANIEL COLADA.

SO LET'S GIVE HIM TIME TO ARRIVE AND WE'LL SWITCH GEARS.

UH, AND BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES, IS THERE A NEED TO HOLD A VOTE FOR THAT SWITCH? I DIDN'T THINK SO.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

UH, BUT LET'S

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UH, ART COMPETITION UPDATE.

UH, PLEASE FORGIVE THE TYPO ON THE MINUTES.

COMMISSION, UH, JESSE RODRIGUEZ, TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS.

UM, I HAVE A VERY BRIEF UPDATE, UH, ON THE ART COMPETITION.

UM, WE, AFTER THE, UH, FIRST EXTENDED PERIOD THAT WE HAD FOR THE ART, UH, SUBMISSION, WE STILL HAVE NOT

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RECEIVED ANY APPLICATIONS.

UH, SO RATHER THAN JUST EXTENDING THE DEADLINE LIKE WE DID FOR THE PREVIOUS TIME, UH, I, I'M PUTTING A PAUSE ON OUR, UH, MARKETING PROCESS.

I'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH THE TEAM THIS WEEK, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, UH, MORE THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF DIFFERENT ADVERTISING PATHWAYS THAT WE CAN ENGAGE IN.

UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, UH, BRIANNA CAME ON MIDWAY THROUGH THE PROJECT, AND SO HAVING HER HERE FOR, UH, PLANNING, UH, I THINK IS GONNA HELP US, YOU KNOW, BUILD FROM A SOLID FOUNDATION.

UM, SO IF, IF WE DO RECEIVE ANY APPLICATIONS AT, YOU KNOW, AT ANY TIME BEFORE THE EXTENDED, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL DEADLINE THAT WE HAVE YET TO SET, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, STILL ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FORMAL RESET DATE, UH, WHERE WE'RE GONNA LAUNCH, UH, NEW COMMUNICATIONS, UM, ALL ON THE SAME DAY.

UM, THOSE PATHWAYS ARE YET TO BE DETERMINED OR FINALIZED, BUT, UH, BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD EARLIER THIS WEEK, IT'S GONNA INCLUDE DIRECT EMAILS TO NONPROFITS WHO ARE IN THE ARTS SPACE, IN ADDITION TO TRYING TO RECONNECT WITH, UH, A I S D AND, UH, OUR OTHERS, UH, LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

UM, IT'S ALSO GONNA INVOLVE, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA, ADDITIONAL SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS.

I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE, THE PAST, YOU KNOW, UP UNTIL NOW, WE'VE ONLY DONE TWITTER POSTS.

WE'RE GONNA SEE IF WE CAN ALSO GET FACEBOOK INVOLVED.

UM, AND WE'RE, UM, UH, SO YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA RESET THAT DATE.

I DON'T HAVE IT QUITE FINALIZED YET.

UH, WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP A HANDOUT, UM, TO, TO ADDITIONALLY SHARE OUT, UM, AND WE'LL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE COMMISSION ONCE IT BECOMES FINAL.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S MY UPDATE.

UH, IF YOU ALL KNOW OF ANY PARTICULAR NON-PROFITS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO REACH OUT TO DIRECTLY OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE REACH OUT TO DIRECTLY THAT ARE AT THAT INTERSECTION OF ARTS AND EQUITY, UM, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE'LL INCLUDE THEM IN OUR NEXT STEP.

BUT I DO INTEND ON, UH, SENDING AN EMAIL TO THE COMMISSION ONCE WE HAVE THE DETAILS MORE FLESHED OUT.

CAN YOU VERY QUICKLY REMIND US, JESSE, OF, UM, GUIDELINES, IS THERE AN AGE LIMIT? UH, IS THIS, LIKE FOR YOUTH? IS THIS FOR EVERYONE? AND THEN AS A COMPETITION, WHAT IS IT THAT PEOPLE WIN? ABSOLUTELY.

PRIOR, UH, YEARS, UH, THAT WILL BE EASILY PASSED ON, UM, AGAIN, WITH INCLUSION OF THIS COMMISSION IN THAT PLANNING.

SO, UH, THE GUIDELINES FOR THE AGE RANGE IS GENERALLY TEENAGERS, OR 10 TO 18, I BELIEVE IS OUR FORMAL, UH, UH, AGE RANGE SHOWED DEFINITELY FOR KIDS.

UM, THE, UH, THE TOPICS IS REALLY ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH DIGITAL EQUITY.

UH, WHAT DOES DIGITAL EQUITY MEAN TO YOU? UH, HOW DO YOU INTERACT WITH, UH, THE INTERNET AND DIGITAL SOCIETY? UH, WE HAVE REALLY BROAD GUIDELINES, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT FOLKS CAN, UH, KIND OF REFLECT ON OR RESPOND TO FROM AN ARTISTIC PERSPECTIVE.

UM, BUT GENERALLY SOMETHING RELATING TO DIGITAL EQUITY.

UM, AND THERE ARE CASH PRIZES FOR FIRST, SECOND, AND THIRD PLACE.

UH, FIRST PLACE AWARD WINNERS WILL GET $400, AND THE SECOND PLACE WILL GET, UH, $200, AND THIRD PLACE WILL GET $100.

SO, UH, TO JESSE, ABSOLUTELY.

UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, UH, AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE ACTUALLY WAS AWARE OF THOSE DETAILS.

UH, I DID HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT EXPECTATION ABOUT THE CONTENT TODAY.

UM, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING THE DETAILS ON THE CONTEST ITSELF, UH, WE WERE ALSO GOING TO FEATURE OUR ARTISTS THAT WERE PREVIOUS WINNERS.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT, BUT I AM, IF YOU'RE NOT, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF ME.

BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE, BY ALL MEANS, UM, I WOULD, AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS, UH, WITH ANOTHER CAVEAT IN MIND.

UH, AS THIS COMMISSION PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN THE CREATION OF THIS CONTEST, UH, AND ALL OF ITS CURRENT, WELL, PRIOR TO THE CURRENT, UH, PLANNING GROUP THAT WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN, UH, I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE'D BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE PLANNING.

UH, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE REQUEST THAT I WOULD MAKE.

AND, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UH, SAY THAT I'M, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, UH, THE INCLUSION OF ADDITIONAL CHANNELS AND, AND THE THOUGHT THAT'S GONE INTO, UH, A NEED TO EXPAND OUR REACH FOR THIS CONTEST.

UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, UH, THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN LESSONS WE LEARNED FROM

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UH, BUT WANTED TO SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY, CERTAINLY, UH, TO ELEVATE THE ARTISTS, UH, WHO, UH, WON AND PARTICIPATED, UH, FROM 2020 AND 2021.

NOW, THE CHALLENGE IS, MY LITTLE SCREEN MAY NOT NECESSARILY DO IT JUSTICE, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST I CAN SPEAK TO THEM VERBALLY.

SO, IN 2020, WHEN WE STARTED THE CONTEST, UH, THE FIRST WINNER, UH, WAS MI PATEL.

UH, SHE WAS 12 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME, AND SHE WON FROM KEELING MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SHE USED, UH, THE MEDIUM OF ALCOHOL MARKERS IN PENN.

AND, AND JOINING THIS, UH, INCREDIBLE PIECE, SHE MADE THE STATEMENT TO ME, DIGITAL EQUITY MEANS TECH ADAPTED TO FIT DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE'S NEEDS.

EQUITY IS DIFFERENT THAN GIVING EVERYONE THE SAME THING, BECAUSE EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.

VERY POIGNANT AND EXTREME WISDOM FROM A 12 YEAR OLD, UH, ABOUT WHAT EQUITY REALLY IS.

UH, AND THIS IS A DELIGHTFUL PIECE AS WELL.

UM, SO I REALLY HOPE I CAN MAKE THIS BETTER.

SO THIS ONE'S VERTICALLY ORIENTED.

LET'S SEE.

I'M TEMPTED TO, I WISH I KNEW WHERE THE CAMERA WAS.

I WOULD WALK RIGHT TO IT, BUT, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S BLOWING WITH THE RED.

WELL, THIS IS PRETTY CLEAR, AT LEAST ON THE SCREEN.

I SEE WHAT THEY'RE GETTING.

SO IF, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE, FROM THE CUP, FROM THE PICTURE THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, CHARACTERS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, AND BRIDGING THAT GAP OF, OF EQUITY BASED UPON THEIR DIFFERENT NEEDS, UH, OUR 2021 WINNER.

WOULD YOU SHOW IT ONE MORE TIME? SURE.

AND I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP.

OH, WONDERFUL.

UH, JESSE'S WORKING ON PULLING THIS UP.

THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLOSEUP.

YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT'S A REALLY THOUGHTFUL PIECE.

YEAH, VERY COOL.

VERY COOL.

AND, UH, VERY WELL DONE.

UH, AND THEN WE OF COURSE, DID THE CONTEST AGAIN LAST YEAR, AND OUR WINNER, UH, WAS ZARAH AL TEL, AN 11 YEAR OLD WHO WON FIRST PLACE FROM GUERRERO THOMPSON ELEMENTARY.

THEY USE PENCIL, PAPER, AND COLORED PENCILS.

AND THEY LEFT A VERY MORE SIMPLE STATEMENT, BUT TO THE POINT OF, UH, DIGITAL EMPOWERMENT.

AND THIS ONE, I'D LIKE TO REFER TO THE SCREEN BECAUSE I KNOW MY SCREEN WON'T DO IT JUSTICE.

UH, CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT? YEAH.

UH, BUT I DO, I DO THINK THAT MAYBE WE, UH, WERE TO FILM A VIDEO, PERHAPS, OR YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THIS IS VERY CLEAR.

RIGHT? AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE BUBBLES, THEY'VE GOT ALL THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DYNAMICS THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO GET USED TO NAVIGATING, YOU KNOW, ZOOM AND, UH, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH AND, AND THEIR SOCIAL SPHERE AND ALL DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE MIND OF, UH, OF OUR YOUTH AND, AND WHAT IT MEANS FROM A DIGITAL EMPOWERMENT STANDPOINT.

SO, I WANNA MAKE SURE TO SEE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE ANYONE LISTENING OUT THERE AT SCHOOLS AND PARENTS THAT MIGHT BE LISTENING IN TO, UH, ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO PARTICIPATE.

AND, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO Y'ALL RECEIVING THE UPDATE FROM OUR COMMISSION AND ALSO FROM, UH, ARTURO OFFICE, UH, BASED UPON THAT.

SO BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT FOR THAT.

SO, CHAIR PITS, MAY I ASK A QUESTION ON THIS? SURE.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS SUCH AN INSPIRING, UH, YOU KNOW, THING.

WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE FOR, UH, YOU TO HAVE, UH, EITHER A IN FACE TO FACE OR A, OR, OR, OR A VIDEO CONFERENCE WITH, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOLERS AND INSPIRE THEM TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THIS KIND OF A PROJECT? YOU KNOW, LIKE GOING TO SEVERAL MIDDLE SCHOOLS, FRANKLY, UH, I, I REPRESENTED YOU OF THE COMMISSION.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY THIS, HAVING JUST, UH, PARTICIPATED IN THE TECH FOR ALL FEST ON FRIDAY, AND WITNESSING FIRSTHAND THE MULTI-GENERATIONAL ATTENDANCE THAT WE HAD SEEING, UH, SENIOR CITIZENS AND YOUTH, UH, WIN LAPTOPS AND, AND THEIR EXCITEMENT THAT, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, I THINK, UH, IMPACTFUL.

I THINK THE TOUGH THING IS, UH, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SCHOOLS , AND IT'D BE TOUGH TO DECIDE WHERE TO GO, UH, AND HOW TO FIND A WAY TO GET IN FRONT OF, UH, ALL THE SCHOOLS EQUITABLY.

UH, THAT WOULD BE THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'D HAVE.

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EXACTLY.

THEN WE COULD THEN GIVE THAT AS A WAY TO SHARE THROUGH THE, THE EDUCATORS, UH, IN ADDITION TO PROMO OF THE PREVIOUS WINNERS, YOU KNOW, OUR EXCITEMENT FOR THIS AND, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

EVEN SOME SHOTS, UH, IF WE'VE GOT THEM OF THE ARTWORK AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED AROUND TOWN.

HOPEFULLY WE'VE GOT THAT, UH, CAPTURED.

IF NOT, WE CAN AT LEAST TELL THE NARRATIVE ABOUT HOW, UH, THESE ARTISTS WILL BE FEATURED AROUND TOWN AND, AND IN FUTURE SCENARIOS LIKE THIS.

UH, NOT JUST ADDING SOMETHING TO THEIR PORTFOLIO, BUT TO THEIR RESUME, YOU KNOW, REALLY AS, AS AN ARTIST.

SO, I CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THAT AND, AND, UH, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INCLUDED IN PLANNING, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL HASH THAT OUT FURTHER.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND COMMISSION VICE CHAIR, UM, WERE THE PREVIOUS, OR PARTICIPANTS AND WINNERS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS REACHED OUT TO DIRECTLY? YES.

WE, FOR ALL OF THE PREVIOUS AWARDEES, WE HAD DIRECT EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE AWARDEES AND LET THEM KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY HAD BEEN SELECTED AND THAT THEIR ARTWORK WOULD BE, UH, HOSTED AND WHERE IT WOULD BE HOSTED.

UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD TO WORK OUT DETAILS OF, UH, HOW TO TRANSFER THE, THE AWARD FUNDING AS WELL.

OH, I MEAN, FOR THE MOST, THE MORE RECENT, UH, CONTEST.

YEAH, THAT, YEAH.

EXCELLENT POINT.

UM, THAT ACTUALLY CAME UP IN, UH, ONE OF OUR DISCUSSIONS EARLIER THIS WEEK TO REACH OUT TO ALL OF THE APPLICANTS FROM PAST, UH, THE PAST TWO YEARS, JUST TO SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS YEAR AND, AND, UH, TRY AND SPREAD THE WORD WITH FAMILY, FRIENDS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, OTHER, UH, FOLKS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SCHOOL WITH.

GREAT QUESTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER YATE, SOMETHING.

I HEARD YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

I THINK IT WAS ME.

OH, COMMISSIONER ISLAND.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UM, I'M CURIOUS FOR SOMETHING FOR NEXT YEAR, MAYBE TO THINK ABOUT, IS MAYBE HAVING LIKE A BOOTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A DIGITAL INCLUSION WEEK THAT TALKS ABOUT THIS COMPETITION SINCE THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND, UM, MIGHT JUST GIVE MORE VISIBILITY AS WELL TO IT HERE, HERE, UH, AT THE TECH FEST.

UH, I HAD THE HONOR BEING A GUEST SPEAKER, AND I SEIZED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE CONTEST.

HOWEVER, UH, I, I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT, UH, IT'S PERHAPS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER TABLING FOR, UH, EITHER AS A TERROR OFFICE OR AS A COMMISSION.

UH, FRANKLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR COMMISSIONERS MORE COMMISSIONERS AT THAT EVENT.

UH, SO I, I WOULD PROBABLY, UH, BUT THEN AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS FOR COMMISSIONERS TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT EVENT AS WELL.

SO, UH, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, AND WE SHOULD DEFINITELY ROLL THAT INTO OUR PLANNING.

AND, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY OUR, OUR SPEAKER, SO I DID WANNA GIVE OTHERS A CHANCE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, BUT WE DO NOW HAVE THE OP OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD IN OUR AGENDA, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER ISLAND, THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, AND PROCEED THEN.

AGENDA, ITEM THREE, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN ANALYSIS OF BLOCKCHAIN AND CRYPTOCURRENCY BY OUR ESTEEMED INTERIM CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER, DANIEL COLADA.

SO, WITH THAT, THEN WE'RE GONNA GO BACK, UH, NOW TO OUR NEW

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, DANIEL.

HELLO EVERYONE.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR, UH, BEING LATE.

I AM VERY GLAD TO BE HERE TALKING WITH YOU.

UH, TOMORROW'S MY, MY, UH, LAST DAY IN THE OFFICE OR VIRTUAL OFFICE, AT LEAST BEFORE I GO OUT ON, UH, PARENTAL LEAVE.

UM, SO SHOULD I, SHOULD I HAVE A NEW ONE HERE, UH, NEXT WEEK? SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, TO DO THIS, UH, HERE WITH YOU TODAY.

UM, AND, AND IF I RUN OUT THE ROOM, TURN OFF .

CONGRATULATIONS WITH, PLEASE DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO.

LET US KNOW, .

SO, YEAH, THANKS FOR LETTING ME, UH, COME BRIEF YOU ON THIS TODAY.

UM, I THOUGHT WE HAD MORE OF A, A DISCUSSION ON IT, UM, RATHER THAN GO THROUGH A DECK, UH, BUT I DID WANT TO ASK, OR, OR KIND OF TAKE A SURVEY.

DID Y'ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE RESPONSES, UH, TO THE RESOLUTIONS YET? THE REASON I'M ASKING IS I, I CAN, I WILL GO THROUGH THOSE AND EXPLAIN THROUGH THEM, BUT IF YOU'VE ALL READ THEM, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE A, A DISCUSSION BEYOND THOSE.

SO I WANNA SAY CANDIDLY, THAT, UH, WE JUST RECEIVED THIS TODAY AS PART OF THIS MEETING BRIEF.

SO IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT MOST OF US HAVE NOT.

UM, OKAY.

WELL, I JUST BRIEFLY CANDID RIGHT NOW.

I WILL GO THROUGH IT AND YOU ALL HAVE IT, RIGHT? I CAN PUT THE LINKS IN THE, IN THE CHAT, BUT IF YOU ALL HAVE IT, I WON'T DO, WE, WE HAVE A HARD COPY IN FRONT OF US HERE IN THE ROOM, AND, UH, THOSE AT HOME HAVE SOFT COPIES THEY CAN PULL UP.

THEY'RE SUPER BOWL COMMERCIALS.

SO I'LL

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GENERALLY GO THROUGH IT.

I'LL GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND OF KIND OF WHERE THIS CAME ABOUT AND, AND WHERE WE, WHERE WE SIT NOW.

I WILL ALSO, I'M MOSTLY GONNA FOCUS ON THE BLOCKCHAIN, UM, UM, RE RESPONSE AND, AND THAT, THAT KIND OF ANGLE.

BUT I WILL ALSO TOUCH ON THE CRYPTOCURRENCY, WHICH WAS A SEPARATE, UH, RESOLUTION, BUT OBVIOUSLY VERY RELATED.

SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT TODAY.

SO, YEAH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, UH, THE, THESE RESOLUTIONS, UM, CAME, YOU MAY REMEMBER, UH, AROUND MARCH, UM, VERY NEAR TO SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.

UH, AND AT, AT THAT TIME, AND, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PREVIOUS, UH, COUPLE YEARS, YOU KNOW, REALLY STARTING IN 2020, UM, BLOCKCHAIN, BUT REALLY, CRYPTOCURRENCY HAD BEEN INCREASING IN POPULARITY PUBLICLY.

UM, THE, THE VALUES OF CRYPTOCURRENCY WERE SKYROCKETING.

UH, YOU KNOW, STADIUMS ARE BEING NAMED AFTER CRYPTOCURRENCY.

IN ADDITION, BLOCKCHAIN IS ALSO A LITTLE, UH, OLDER THAN THAT, BUT NOT BY MUCH.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE REALLY STARTED TALKING ABOUT BLOCKCHAIN IN 2008.

UM, IN 2018, THE INNOVATION OFFICE STARTED TALKING ABOUT DOING A, UH, POTENTIAL PROJECT OR AN EXPLORATION INVOLVING BLOCKCHAIN.

UH, I'VE TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

UM, IT'S CALLED LIFE FILES.

BACK THEN.

IT WAS CALLED MY PASS, WHERE TECHNOLOGIES MIGHT MEAN FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, UH, AS THEY SECURE, STORED, AND SHARED VITAL DOCUMENTS THAT THEY NEEDED TO ACCESS SERVICES.

UH, AGAIN, YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM THAT BRIEFING, UM, THAT PROJECT ENDED UP USING BLOCKCHAIN IN A SMALL, BUT VERY, IN PART, IMPORTANT PART OF ITS TECH STACK.

AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW, UH, MUNICIPAL EXPLORATIONS OF BLOCKCHAIN IN AN APPLIED, UM, PROJECT THAT, THAT HAD BEEN DONE AT THAT TIME.

UM, IF, IF THERE WERE ANY OTHERS, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT 'EM, WHERE THEY WERE IN VERY BRIEF.

FAST FORWARD TO 20, UH, 22 HERE.

UM, WHEN WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS WORK, IT'S MORE ABOUT CRYPTO, BUT AS THE INNOVATION OFFICE WAS THE MAIN OFFICE THAT HAD HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS IN THE CITY, UH, A LOT OF THESE RESOLUTIONS CAME TO US.

THE BLOCKCHAIN RESOLUTION EFFECTIVELY ASKS US TO REALLY AT ITS CORE, WAS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN AS A CITY TO MAKE AUSTIN IN GENERAL, OPEN AND INVITING FOR BLOCKCHAIN TYPE DEVELOPMENT.

IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY SAY, GO ADOPT THIS STUFF.

IT DIDN'T EVEN NECESSARILY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD USE IT FOR THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER.

UM, ALTHOUGH IT DID SAY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, EXPLORE, DO IT, DO IT AN EXPLORATION OF HOW WE MIGHT USE THIS, BUT CREATE A SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT.

THE CRYPTOCURRENCY RESOLUTION, WHICH WAS INTRODUCED AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEY WERE ADOPTING THE SAME MEETING SPECIFIED A FA A FACT FINDING, UM, , YEAH, WE'LL CALL IT , TO, TO EXPLORE WHAT IT WOULD IF, IF, AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THE CITY TO ACCEPT CRYPTOCURRENCIES, UM, DEALING CRYPTOCURRENCIES, HOW THEY MIGHT BENEFIT RESIDENTS.

AND THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, TOOK A STRONG LEAD THERE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE MORE FINANCIAL, REGULATORY LAW AND NATURE LAW.

SO, WAIT IN THERE.

SO IN OUR, UH, WHAT WE DID FOR, UM, THE BLOCKCHAIN RESPONSE, WHICH WAS THE MORE GENERAL RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE PARTNERED UP, UM, WITH A, UH, THE LARGEST BLOCKCHAIN, BLOCKCHAIN, UM, CONFERENCE IN THE WORLD, HAPPENS TO RELOCATE TO AUSTIN.

UM, WE PARTNER WITH THEM, UH, IN GENERAL THIS SUMMER.

IT'S CALLED THE CONSENSUS CONFERENCE.

AND WE ALSO WORKED WITH THEM TO SPONSOR A HACKATHON THAT LOOKED AT CREATING, UH, WHAT THEY CALL, YOU KNOW, SOLUTIONS, THE HYPERLOCAL ISSUES.

SO WE, UH, GAVE THEM A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT ISSUES IN AUSTIN, UM, AND THEY HAD TEAMS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, UH, SUBMIT SOLUTIONS.

I DO WANNA BE CLEAR THE TEAMS WEREN'T ASKED TO NECESSARILY SOLVE AUSTIN'S PROBLEMS. WE GAVE, UH, DATA ABOUT CHALLENGES IN AUSTIN TO GIVE THEM EXAMPLES OF WHAT THESE PROBLEMS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

A LOT OF THESE TEAMS WERE INTERNATIONAL, AND THEY APPLIED THAT TYPE OF THINKING TO THEIR OWN CONTEXT.

WE WERE ALSO A JUDGE IN THAT WE WERE RECENTLY JUDGED THAT, UM, IT, IT WAS, IT'S KIND OF AN EXTENDED HACKATHON, AND THEY'RE GONNA, UM, RELEASE THE RESULTS OF THAT JUDGING, UH, I BELIEVE IN THE NEXT MONTH.

SO I'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS OVER A HUNDRED SUBMISSIONS.

I THINK SOME REALLY INTERESTING, UH, THINGS THERE KIND OF ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF USING, UH, BLOCKCHAIN TYPE TECHNOLOGIES.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE.

I, I MET WITH, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN I CAN REMEMBER, UM, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT

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BUSINESSES, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH ARE DIRECTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING IN THE BLOCKCHAIN AND CRYPTOCURRENCY SPACES TO UNDERSTAND IF THEY REALLY VALUED IN A SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, A LOT OF THEIR FEEDBACK WAS THINGS THAT WERE FRANKLY, OUTSIDE OF THE CITY ORGANIZATION'S CONTROL NECESSARILY.

UH, WHAT THEY BASICALLY WANTED WAS A GOOD PARTNER AND SOMEONE THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE WERE SUPPORTIVE AND SAID, WE DON'T NEED YOU TO, TO DO THIS STUFF FOR US.

JUST, JUST BE THERE WITH US, YOU KNOW, BE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE, THE, THE TECH AND INNOVATION ENVIRONMENT IN AUSTIN.

PARTNER WITH US ON THESE THINGS WHERE YOU CAN, UM, AND, AND LET'S JUST ALL BE BE OPEN AND PROGRESSIVE TOGETHER.

SO THAT WAS GOOD TO HEAR SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN OTHER CITIES, LIKE INSTALLING BITCOIN BINDING, UH, MINING MACHINES AND CITY HALLS, AND ADOPTING CITY COINS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UH, INTERESTINGLY, WERE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT HAPPENED TO BE YOUR BUSINESS, SURE THEY WERE INTERESTED, BUT THEY SAID THAT THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT FOR A SHOW, BUT THAT'S NOT THE DEEPER THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE REALLY WANT, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A COMMUNITY HERE.

AND, AND AUSTIN IS, UH, A PLACE WHERE WE CAN DO THAT.

SO, SO WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, BY HAVING GOOD RELATIONSHIPS, BEING SUPPORTIVE, WHERE WE CAN, UM, WE ARE ENABLING THAT SPACE, UH, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD FEEL GETTING MAYBE TOO DEEP IN IT, IN SOME, IN SOME CASES THAT WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN IN, IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

UM, AS FAR AS, UH, THE REST OF THE RESPONSE, UM, TO, TO COUNSEL WHAT WE DID IN THE INNOVATION OFFICE, WE THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO DO A DEEP DIVE ON BLOCKCHAIN, UH, AND GIVE, UM, SOME, SOME, SOME BACKGROUND AND GUIDELINES FOR THAT THE ORGANIZATION COULD USE TO THINK ABOUT BLOCKCHAIN SOLUTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT ADOPT IN THE FUTURE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS BLOCKCHAIN? WHAT DO YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE DELIVERING BLOCKCHAIN SOLUTIONS? AND HOW DO YOU CONTEXTUALIZE THEM WITHIN THE PROBLEM YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE? SO WE CREATED THESE GUIDELINES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, IN, INTO THE FUTURE, I KNOW THINGS CHANGE QUICKLY, SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY FOREVER, BUT INTO THE FUTURE.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT THESE TYPES OF TECHNOLOGIES THEY HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO START FROM SQUARE ONE.

UM, ESPECIALLY, THEY'RE BEING OFFERED, LET'S SAY, LIKE BY A VENDOR.

UH, THEY CAN, THEY CAN HAVE SOME, SOME BACKGROUND.

SO IN THAT RESPONSE, YOU ALL SEE IT.

BUT, UM, WE GO THROUGH WHAT THE BLOCKCHAIN, UH, THE BASICS OF BLOCKCHAIN IS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT, IT IS A, UH, WAY TO BASICALLY KEEP TRACK OF TRANSACTIONS, IS, IS HOW I SAY IT.

UM, AS OPPOSED TO LIKE A DATABASE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT A LOT OF THINGS IN A DATABASE.

A BLOCKCHAIN IS GREAT PLACE TO, TO PUT SMALL AMOUNTS OF DATA.

TRANSACTIONS IS A GOOD WAY TO THINK ABOUT SMALL AMOUNTS OF DATA EVENTS, IS ANOTHER WAY YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT.

UM, YOU ALL KNOW THESE, THESE EVENTS ARE, UM, IN BLOCKS.

THEY'RE VALIDATED BY, BY NODES.

UM, NODES ARE ORDERED FOR THAT VALIDATION OF CRYPTOCURRENCY, AND THEY'RE AT, IN THAT VALIDATED BLOCK, JOINS A CHAIN OF OTHER VALIDATED BLOCKS.

THAT CHAIN IS, UM, COPIED OR DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THOUSANDS OF COMPUTERS AROUND THE WORLD.

AND THIS IS WHY THEY SAY BLOCKCHAIN IS IMMUTABLE, BECAUSE IF ONE COPY HAS CHANGED, UH, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT ALL OF THE OTHER COPIES WOULD NOT MATCH IT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL UPDATED AT THE SAME TIME.

AND YOU COULD EASILY TELL THAT THAT COPY THAT HAD BEEN CHANGED WAS AN INVALID COPY CHAIN.

THEN, UM, THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN, UH, CREATE PROBLEMS IN BLOCKCHAIN IS IF YOU IMAGINE YOU ARE ABLE TO SIMULTANEOUSLY CHANGE 51% OR MORE OF THE COPIES ALL AT THE SAME TIME, ALL IN THE SAME WAY.

AND IN THAT WAY, YOU COULDN'T ACTUALLY TELL WHICH SET OF, OF, UM, CHANGE WAS THE VALID ONE.

UH, EFFECTIVELY IMPOSSIBLE FOR LARGE CHAINS.

THAT'S WHY THEY CALL BLOCKCHAINS IMMUTABLE.

I, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T ERASE THEM.

UH, YOU ALSO CAN, YOU CAN'T, UH, GO BACK AND CHANGE ANY DATA ON, ON BLOCKCHAINS, UM, WHICH WE'LL GO BACK OR WE'LL GO BACK TO LATER.

UM, SO WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF BLOCKCHAINS? LIKE I SAID, UM, THEY'RE IMMUTABLE.

THEY CAN'T BE CHANGED, SO THEY CAN BE APPENDED.

UM, SO THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU PUT THAT SOMETHING WAS A SQUARE ON A BLOCKCHAIN, UH, AND IT WASN'T ACTUALLY A SQUARE, YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND SAVE THE CIRCLE.

YOU HAVE TO LATER FOLLOW UP AND SAY, ACTUALLY THAT SQUARE UP THERE IS A CIRCLE.

UM, SO, SO THEY ARE IMMUTABLE.

UH, THIS CAN BE REALLY GOOD IN CASES WHERE THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT MUCH TRUST OR ABUSE.

UM, AND, AND WHERE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, UNTRUSTWORTHY MIDDLE MEN, YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT THINK, UM, UH, IN SOME, UM, APPLICATIONS, UH, BLOCKCHAINS ARE TRANSPARENT, AT LEAST PUBLIC CHAINS ARE WHEN, UH, MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN, UH, PUBLIC PERMISSION AND PRIVATE CHAINS.

UH, PUBLIC BLOCKCHAINS ARE WHAT YOU USUALLY THINK

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OF, LIKE ETHEREUM AND BITCOIN, UH, CHAINS.

UM, THOSE, THOSE CHAINS, YOU CAN SEE IT, YOU CAN WRITE TO IT IF YOU, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE APPLICATION, UM, EVERYONE CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? SO THEY ARE FULLY TRANSPARENT.

NO ONE CAN NEVER NOT SEE THE BITCOIN CHAIN.

RIGHT? UM, AND WHAT IS ON THE BITCOIN CHAIN, UH, SAME WITH THE THEORUM.

SOME OF THE OTHERS PERMISSION TO BLOCK CHAINS ARE, UM, ARE CHAINS THAT HAVE BASICALLY, UH, USER ACCESS CONTROLLED.

UM, SO ONCE, ONCE YOU'VE BEEN ALLOWED TO ACCESS A CHAIN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN WRITE TO IT AND EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.

UM, BUT, UM, WHO CAN WRITE TO IT IS, IS, UM, IS CONTROLLED.

UH, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND MAYBE IN SOME GOVERNMENT SITUATIONS WHERE THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT, UM, WHERE, WHERE YOU WOULD CONTROL WHO COULD OFFICIALLY ADD TO A CHAIN.

UM, AND, UM, BUT EVERYONE COULD STILL SEE IT, A PRIVATE BLOCKCHAIN, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A LOT OF THE PRODUCTS THAT YOU SEE OFFERED.

UM, NOW, ESPECIALLY IN GOVERNMENT CONTEXT.

SO LIKE IBM OR SOMEONE, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT SOME OF THEIR BIG BLOCKCHAIN PRODUCTS, THEIR PRIVATE BLOCKCHAINS, UM, THESE ARE PRODUCTS THAT ARE FULLY CONTROLLED BY THE COMPANIES, IN MY HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE HERE, IBM THAT OWN THEM.

UM, SO TO ME, IN MANY CASES, THIS DEFEAT SOME OF THE PER PURPOSE OF BLOCKCHAIN, BECAUSE THESE PRIVATE COMPANIES CAN, UM, DETERMINE WHO GETS TO USE THE CHAIN, WHAT GOES ON IT, AND THEY CAN ALSO GO BACK AND CHANGE THE CHAIN SO THEY'RE NOT TOTALLY THE SAME TYPE OF DATA STRUCTURES.

SO THEY CAN, THEY CAN SOUND PRETTY ATTRACTIVE, UH, IN THAT WAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROL.

UH, BUT AT THAT CASE, I START TO QUESTION, DO YOU ACTUALLY NEED A BLOCKCHAIN BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REALLY USING A BLOCKCHAIN FOR THE REASONS THAT THEY EXIST.

SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO DIG INTO EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT BLOCKCHAINS.

UM, AND FINALLY, UM, BLOCKCHAINS ARE ACCESSIBLE.

UH, THE PUBLIC CHAINS.

THERE, THERE IS NO CENTRALIZED AUTHORITY THAT CONTROLS A PUBLIC CHAIN.

ANYONE CAN BUILD AN APPLICATION, UM, AND OR WRITE TO A BLOCKCHAIN EVERY TIME YOU DO A TRANSACTION, YOU WRITE TO A BLOCKCHAIN.

UM, SO, SO THEY ARE KIND OF THE DEFINITION OF ACCESSIBILITY.

UM, IT'S ALSO WHY THEY'RE GROWING.

SO IMPLICATIONS OF THEM GETTING SO BIG.

UM, SO THEY, THEY ARE, THEYRE IMMUTABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND ACCESSIBLE.

UM, ARE, ARE SOME OF THEIR STRONGEST POINTS AS A DATA STRUCTURE THAT CAN RECORD TRANSACTIONS AND EVENTS? UM, SOME OF THE TRADE OFFS AND DISADVANTAGES.

UM, THE FLIP SIDE OF, OF WHAT I JUST SAID, REGULATION AND GOVERNANCE AND SECURITY.

UM, BLOCKCHAINS AREN'T REGULATED, AND BECAUSE THERE IS NO CENTRALIZED AUTHORITY, THEY AREN'T GOVERNED.

WE'VE ALL HEARD THE EARLY STORIES THAT LOTS OF ILLEGAL STUFF HAPPENED, UM, BECAUSE BLOCKCHAINS AREN'T GOVERNED EXACTLY.

THAT PEOPLE COULD TRANSACT ILLEGAL THINGS IN ILLEGAL WAYS AND, AND NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

UM, THAT'S CHANGING A LOT.

THERE'S A, AS YOU MAY ALL KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GOVERNANCE BEING TALKED ABOUT CRYPTOCURRENCY, AND THE WAY THAT, UH, INFORMATION BEING, UH, RECORDED ON BLOCKCHAINS, ESPECIALLY THE APPLICATIONS THAT PEOPLE USE TO RECORD THEM, ALLOWS A BIT MORE TRACEABILITY, UM, UH, IF THIS HAPPENS.

BUT STILL, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GOVERNANCE, UM, AROUND WHO CAN WRITE TO THESE FULLY PUBLIC CHAINS.

UM, AND I BRING UP SECURITY HERE.

THIS IS A, THIS IS A BIT OF A, A SEMANTIC POINT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE.

UH, LOTS OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, UH, THE SECURITY OF BLOCKCHAIN.

WHEN, WHEN I TALK ABOUT SECURITY, UH, IT MEANS THAT I CAN HOLD SOMETHING AWAY FROM YOU, RIGHT? AND, AND PROTECT IT.

UH, BLOCKCHAINS ARE FULLY TRANSPARENT.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING ON A BLOCKCHAIN IF IT'S PUBLIC.

SO, UH, AND BECAUSE IT IS FULLY TRANSPARENT FOR ALL TIME, IT EFFECTIVELY HAS AN INFINITE ATTACK VECTOR.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN TRY AND, AND GET INTO THAT INFORMATION OR STEAL IT OR DO WHATEVER YOU WANT FOREVER, AND YOU CAN SEE IT ANYWAY.

UM, SO, SO REALLY IT'S NOT SECURE IN THE WAY WE THINK OF KEEPING STUFF BEHIND A WALL.

SO YOU CAN'T GET TO IT AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT.

IT IS IMMUTABLE.

YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.

SO YOU CAN THINK OF IT THAT WAY, BUT, UM, IT, IT DOESN'T KEEP YOUR, YOUR INFORMATION OUT OF VIEW.

SO IT'S, IT'S A POINT I BRING UP.

CAUSE A LOT OF THE TIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, IN KIND OF POPULAR MEDIA AND THINGS LIKE THAT, PEOPLE SAY BLOCKCHAINS ARE THE MOST SECURE THING EVER.

SAY, WELL, THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE HARDEST THING TO CHANGE EVER, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GONNA HIDE YOUR INFORMATION.

UM, THE, UH, TRANSACTION SPEED OF BLOCKCHAIN CAN BE VERY SLOW.

UH, THAT'S WHY I TALK ABOUT THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT SMALL BITS OF INFORMATION.

SMALL, YOU KNOW, METADATA ABOUT A TRANSACTION IS WHAT YOU PUT ON THE BLOCKCHAIN.

YOU WOULD NEVER PUT PICTURES ON A BLOCKCHAIN, YOU WOULD NEVER PUT A MANUSCRIPT ON A BLOCKCHAIN.

THEY'RE VERY HEAVY, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, UM, THAT, UH, JUST IN THEIR STRUCTURE.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE BITCOIN CHAIN CAN PROCESS ABOUT SEVEN TRANSACTIONS PER SECOND, THAT'S WORLDWIDE.

UM, VISA CAN PROCESS ABOUT 24,000,

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IF THAT GIVES YOU A, A, AN IDEA OF SCALE.

SO, SO, UM, YOU CAN'T WRITE BIG STUFF TO BLOCKCHAIN AND SLOW ANYWAY WHEN YOU DO.

UH, IT'S ALSO COSTLY.

UM, EVERY, EVERY, UH, TRANSACTION THAT YOU WRITE TO A BLOCKCHAIN HAS A COST, UH, SMALL KIND OF APPROPRIATE, LET'S CALL IT SIZE TRANSACTIONS ARE USUALLY LIKE TWO TO $5.

AND IF YOU'RE USING SOME TYPE OF CRYPTOCURRENCY EXCHANGE, UM, THERE'S USUALLY FEES ON TOP OF THAT.

SO YOU DO HAVE TO WATCH YOUR, YOUR FEE STRUCTURES DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'RE DEALING WITH.

BUT IF YOU DO TRY AND WRITE BIG STUFF TO, UH, BLOCKCHAINS, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THERE ARE, UM, MULTIPLE EXAMPLES OF, OF, YOU KNOW, TRANSACTIONS PROBABLY EVERY DAY COSTING 15,000, $20,000 PER TRANSACTION, UM, ONTO BLOCKCHAINS, UH, IF THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UH, DATA OR THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE THEY ARE, EVEN THE TIME OF DAY, UH, THAT THEY HAPPEN.

UM, IT'S KIND OF A MARKET BASED SYSTEM, SO IT FLUCTUATES THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE WRITING TO BLOCKCHAIN IF YOU'RE USING PUBLIC BLOCKCHAINS AND THE COST OF THAT.

UM, UH, MATURITY IS ANOTHER THING WE WANNA KEEP AN EYE ON.

THIS IS A VERY YOUNG SPACE.

UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING, BUT THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE ALL SEEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE CRYPTOCURRENCY SIDE, THE MASSIVE SWINGS, YOU KNOW, LOSING 70% OR $2 TRILLION OF VALUE IN A MATTER OF A COUPLE MONTHS.

UM, AGAIN, THAT THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A FINAL JUDGMENT ON THESE THINGS.

WE DO JUST HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES, AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN.

UM, SO WE NEED TO BE, I THINK, UM, VERY EYES WIDE OPEN OF WHERE WE DO, UH, INNOVATIVE AND MAYBE PILOT TYPE THINGS.

AND, AND WHERE WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO HAVE VERY MORE MATURE SOLUTIONS, UM, TO, TO CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING THESE THINGS.

ON THE CRYPTOCURRENCY SIDE, THERE ARE, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF, UM, EQUITY, UH, ISSUES, UM, NAMELY THAT, UH, FOR A LOT OF REASONS, CRYPTOCURRENCY TYPE PRODUCTS, UM, NFTS, UH, AND OTHER FINANCE RELATED PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN INCREASINGLY TARGET TOWARDS COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, UH, IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, ESPECIALLY, UM, ESPECIALLY KIND OF IN POPULAR CULTURE THROUGH CELEBRITIES, ET CETERA.

UM, THESE ARE EXTREMELY RISKY AND UNREGULATED FINANCIAL, UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I'LL CALL 'EM THAT, BUT WE'LL CALL 'EM THAT.

UM, AND, AND THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE, OF THEM, RIGHT? LIKE, PEOPLE KNOW THEY HAVE WILD SWINGS, UM, BUT THEY'RE OFTEN MARKETED AS A WAY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CIRCUMVENT THE TRADITIONAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND, AND GET RICH OVERNIGHT IN MANY CASES.

AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF BIG INFLUENCERS SAYING THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT THE RISK.

UM, AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF RISKY FINANCIAL FR PRODUCTS LIKE SUBPRIME MORTGAGES, PAYDAY LOANS, ET CETERA, THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN TARGET AT THESE COMMUNITIES WITHOUT, UM, THE, AN ADEQUATE EXPLANATION OF THE RISK THAT THESE TYPES OF PRODUCTS BRING.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A BIG CHALLENGE.

UM, I THINK FOR US, IN, IN LOOKING IN ANY TYPE OF CRYPTOCURRENCY ESPECIALLY, UH, IS JUST A MASSIVE RISK THAT IT CARRIES, UM, ESPECIALLY AGAINST TO COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THAT THEY'RE BEING MARKETED TO.

UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE FOOTNOTES.

I DIDN'T DIVE INTO IT TOO MUCH IN THE REPORT.

UH, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PRETTY WILD EXAMPLES OF, OF, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PEOPLE TAKING OVER PARTS OF, OF DEVELOPING COUNTRIES WITH THESE SORT OF BLOCKCHAIN BASED CITIES.

IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STRANGER THAN FICTION.

I, UH, URGE YOU TO READ THOSE PIECES, UM, THAT IT'S ALSO PRETTY SOBERING AND SCARY.

UH, BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY, SILICON VALLEY IS, UM, CERTAINLY DOING, ITS, ITS WORLD BUILDING.

UM, NOT, NOT HERE NEAR HERE, BUT NOT IN GREAT WAYS.

UM, MOSTLY IN CENTRAL AMERICA, AND IT'S WRAPPED UP IN THESE BLOCKCHAIN TECHNOLOGIES.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION TO TAKE IN, UM, ON THESE, UH, TECHNOLOGIES IN GENERAL IS, UH, SUSTAINABILITY, CLIMATE AND RESILIENCE CONSIDERATIONS.

TEXAS IS, UH, RAPIDLY BECOMING, IF NOT THE MOST, UM, POPULAR STATE FOR BLOCKCHAIN OR, UH, CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING, UM, IN THE UNITED STATES.

UH, THIS IS BECAUSE OUR VERY FAVORABLE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT AND OUR OIL AND GAS ENERGY PRODUCTION.

UM, IT TAKES MONSTROUS AMOUNTS OF ENERGY, ENERGY TO MINE, UM, ON, UH, CHAINS THAT USE, UM, A PROOF OF WORK CONSENSUS MECHANISM.

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

BASICALLY, THE, THE MATH PROBLEMS THAT THE COMPUTERS DO, UH, TO VALIDATE THAT A, A BLOCK IS ACCURATE, UM, AND GET PAID OUT FOR CRYPTOCURRENCY.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S HOW YOU GET AWARDED CRYPTOCURRENCY, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT MINING IS CALLED.

SO, UH, CHAINS LIKE BITCOIN TAKE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY TO DO THIS, BECAUSE AS THE CHAIN GROWS, IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED.

YOU NEED MORE POWER TO DO IT, SO IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE.

UM, LAST TIME I LOOKED, THERE'S AN INTERESTING LINK

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IN THE, IN THE REPORT.

UM, I THINK CAMBRIDGE, UH, DOES, UH, A COMPARISON OF HOW MUCH THE BITCOIN CHAIN TAKES, UM, TO RUN ENERGY WISE COMPARED TO COUNTRIES.

LAST ONE WAS THE PHILIPPINES.

UH, SO THE, THE BITCOIN CHAIN ITSELF TAKES AS MUCH ENERGY ANNUALLY AS THE PHILIPPINES.

UM, A LOT OF THIS IS RELATED TO FOSSIL FUELS.

UM, SO IT HAS PRETTY, PRETTY MASSIVE, UM, CLIMATE IMPLICATIONS FOR WHAT I WOULD SAY NOW IS RELATIVELY A LITTLE UTILITY.

UM, AS FAR AS ACTUALLY DOING THINGS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DEVELOPING SPACE, BUT, UH, MOST DEVELOPING SPACES, UM, I WOULD SAY MAYBE, MAYBE PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE UTILITY FOR THE AMOUNT OF, OF, OF CLIMATE IMPACT THAT THESE DO HAVE.

UH, WE ALSO DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A PRETTY BIG STRAIN ON OUR ELECTRIC GI GRID ALREADY IN TEXAS.

UM, AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME STUDIES DONE THAT I, UM, I LINKED IN HERE THAT SAY, EFFECTIVELY IF, IF THE AMOUNT OF CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING IS BUILT OUT, UM, THAT IS PROJECTED TO AND COULDN'T HANDLE IT, UH, SO, SO WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS A GREAT, A GREAT PLAN IN THE, IN THE TIME SPANS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

AGAIN, THIS IS MOSTLY RELATED TO CRYPTOCURRENCY, UH, BUT, BUT A APPLICABLE TO THIS DISCUSSION.

SO, UM, THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF CONSENSUS MECHANISMS ON OTHER CHAINS THAT ARE, THAT ARE MASSIVELY MORE EFFICIENT.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ETHEREUM CHAIN, UM, AND, AND THE CHAINS THAT, THAT LINK OFF OF IT, UH, HAVE, HAVE A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, UM, PROOF OF STAKE, UH, CONSENSUS MECHANISM.

UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE BITCOIN CHAIN IS THE BIGGEST AND MOST POPULAR CHAIN IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

UH, AND I DON'T, AND I THINK IT'LL STAY THAT WAY FOR A WHILE, THAT WE DO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CHAINS WE'RE USING AND, AND, AND BE CLEAR ABOUT THE CLIMATE IMPLICATIONS OF, OF THOSE, UM, AND DIG INTO WHAT THOSE CONSENSUS MECHANISMS ARE.

UM, SO WHEN, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, GUIDELINES FOR CONSIDERING BLOCKCHAIN SOLUTIONS, NOW THAT YOU HAVE THAT BACKGROUND, UM, I'M GONNA SEE IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN.

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GONNA LET ME, UM, SO THAT'S OKAY.

I'LL READ 'EM OFF TO YOU.

UM, I THINK THEY JUST ENABLED IT FOR YOU IF YOU WANTED TO.

OH, THERE WE GO.

LOOK AT THAT.

WHAT, WHAT SERVICE? UM, I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT WINDOW.

LET'S SEE YOU.

YEAH, HOPEFULLY Y'ALL CAN SEE MY SCREEN HERE.

CAN, SO WE, WE EFFECTIVELY SAID, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENTS, WHOEVER IS CONSIDERING THIS IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW YOU CAN, YOU CAN ASSESS WHETHER YOU MIGHT NEED A BLOCKCHAIN SOLUTION, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT FEATURES YOU NEED, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVEN NEED TO THINK ABOUT BLOCKCHAIN IN GENERAL.

AND WHAT WE SAID ARE, ARE YOU, UH, SEARCHING FOR A PROCESS THAT INVOLVES RECORDING TRANSACTIONS OR EVENTS THAT ARE RELATIVELY SMALL AND SIZED FROM A DATA STANDPOINT? UM, DOES YOUR INFORMATION NEED TO BE RECORDED ON AN IMMUTABLE LEDGER THAT CAN NEVER BE CHANGED.

ONLY APPENDED.

DOES THE INFORMATION NEED INFREQUENT UPDATING CHANGES IN DELETIONS? UM, IS, OR SHOULD THE INFORMATION BE BE AVAILABLE OR VIEWABLE TO ANYONE FOREVER? UM, OTHER TRANSACTIONS OR EVENTS YOU NEED TO RECORD RELATIVELY NO LOW END NUMBER.

UH, DOES THE BLOCKCHAIN PRODUCT YOU'RE CONSIDERING RELY ON A CONSENSUS MECHANISM THAT'S ENTERED EFFICIENT? IS THERE REGULATION OR NETWORK WIDE, NETWORK WIDE PRACTICE THAT REQUIRES YOUR INFORMATION TO BE RECORDED IN A CERTAIN PLACE AND OR BY A SPECIFIC ENTITY? AND THIS ONE IS, UH, I WROTE, I'LL EXPLAIN THIS ONE NOW.

IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE IF IT DOES A BLOCKCHAIN SOLUTION MAY BE REDUNDANT.

BASICALLY, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE REQUIRED TO RECORD SOME INFORMATION WITH SOME STATE ENTITY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD JUST BE REPEATING THAT WORK BY PUTTING ON A BLOCKCHAIN, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO REPORT IT TO THEM ANYWAY.

SO IT'S DUPLICATION OF WORK.

UH, AND THEN THE FINALLY, IS THERE LITTLE OR NO EXPOSURE TO, TO CRYPTOCURRENCY MARKETS? UM, BASICALLY IF, IF YOU ANSWER NO TO ANY OF THOSE, UH, QUESTIONS, THEN, THEN YOU SHOULD MAYBE CONSIDER A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY, UM, OR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF APPROACH TO THE PROBLEM.

UM, AND, AND THOSE LINK UP TO THOSE, THOSE, UM, SOME OF THOSE KIND OF TRADE OFFS AND, AND CONSIDERATIONS ABOVE.

IF YOU CAN ANSWER YES TO ALL THOSE, THEN YOU MAY ACTUALLY HAVE A REALLY GOOD USE FOR, FOR BLOCKCHAIN.

UM, AND I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FROM MY STANDPOINT WHEN I LOOK AT THESE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BLOCK BLOCKCHAIN IS A, IS A, IS A DATA STRUCTURE, RIGHT? IT'S A TECHNOLOGY.

IT'S BEEN BUILT INTO A LOT MORE THAN THAT IN POPULAR CULTURE, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF DATA STRUCTURES AND TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT HAVE VERY SPECIFIC USES.

AND, AND IT'S, IT'S EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL THESE TYPES OF TOOLS AND OPTIMIZE AND IN VARIOUS TECH STACKS, UM, UH, DEPENDING ON THE CHALLENGES YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.

SO I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IT FOR WHAT IT IS, UM, AND MAKE REALLY GOOD CHOICES.

CUZ AGAIN, WE FOUND IN THE LIFE FILES PROJECT, THERE ARE PLACES WHERE IT WORKS BEAUTIFULLY.

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CAN'T USE ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES WHERE PEOPLE TELL YOU THAT YOU SHOULD USE IT, THAT YOU SHOULDN'T, RIGHT? JUST BECAUSE OF THE KIND OF CLIMATE WE'RE IN, THE HYPE CYCLE WE'RE IN, UM, A LOT OF TIMES I SAY IT'S KINDA LIKE LINUX, IF YOU REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, LINUX WAS, WAS SORT OF PUSHED AS LIKE A VERY, UM, USER BASED OPERATING SYSTEM.

PEOPLE TRY TO MAKE ALL TYPES OF STUFF THAT WAS VERY, UH, TANGIBLE WITH IT.

UH, AND IF IT'S JUST, NONE OF 'EM WERE VERY GOOD.

UM, BUT NOW LENOX IS THE BACKBONE OF, OF TONS OF TECHNOLOGY.

YOU NEVER KNOW IT'S THERE, RIGHT? LIKE, NO ONE TALKS ABOUT USING LINUX, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I THINK BLOCKCHAIN WILL BE LIKE THAT, WILL YOU.

IT WILL BE CORE TO SO MANY TECHNOLOGIES, THE FUTURE, AND WE'RE NEVER GONNA KNOW WE'RE USING IT.

UM, AND IT'LL KIND OF BE PAST HYPE CYCLE WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PUT IT FRONT AND CENTER, UM, AS THE, THE MAIN SELLING POINT OF THEIR PRODUCT.

UM, FINALLY I LISTED SOME ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGIES.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE PEOPLE THINKING, UM, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, BLOCKCHAIN IS A TECHNOLOGY.

CENTRALIZED DATABASES.

THERE ARE DISTRIBUTED DATABASES THAT AREN'T BASED ON A BLOCKCHAIN.

UM, THERE'S OTHER TYPES OF DISTRIBUTED LEDGERS, UH, USED FOR, AGAIN, UM, RECORDING EVENTS AND TRANSACTIONS ARE BASED ON, UM, BLOCKCHAIN.

THERE'S ALSO CENTRALIZED LEDGERS THAT YOU COULD DO THAT DECENTRALIZED STORAGE AND CLOUD STORAGE.

UM, I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THESE ARE PERFECT PARALLELS, UH, TO BLOCKCHAIN, BUT THEY, THEY PLAY IN THE SAME TYPE OF WORLDS.

AND AGAIN, I JUST WANNA GIVE PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOLUTIONS.

I UNDERSTAND, UH, PEOPLE AREN'T TECHNOLOGISTS.

I WOULDN'T EVEN CALL MYSELF ONE.

AND WE DEFINITELY RECOMMEND, UM, IN THESE GUIDANCE AND OTHERWISE THAT YOU TALK TO CTM, UM, OR OTHERS TO, TO, TO DO THE TECHNICAL HEAVY LIFTING ON HELPING YOU BUILD THIS OUT.

UM, BUT JUST HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEIR OPTIONS AS THEY'RE CONSIDERING, UM, THE, THESE TYPES OF TECHNOLOGIES AND PRODUCTS.

FINALLY IN THE REPORT WITH SOME, UM, POTENTIAL, UH, APPLICATIONS FOR GOVERNMENT, UH, THAT WE THINK MIGHT BE PROMISING.

AGAIN, A LOT OF THESE SOLUTIONS ARE VERY EARLY STAGE, SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE ADOPTING ANY OF THEM, UM, FULLY IN THE FUTURE.

BUT, UH, I THINK SOME EXCITING SPACES ARE DIGITAL IDENTITY AND DOCUMENTATION VALIDATION, UM, RECORDS VALIDATION AND MANAGEMENT.

UH, SMART CONTRACTS FOR SERVICE ADMINISTRATION AND ELIGIBILITY VERIFICATION.

UM, YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW, SMART CONTRACTS ARE BASICALLY LITTLE BITS OF CODE.

THEY'RE, UM, THAT, THAT RUN AUTOMATICALLY WHEN A SET OF CONDITIONS ARE MET.

UM, AND, AND THEY'RE RECORDED BASICALLY, WHEN A SET OF CONDITIONS IS SUBMITTED TO A BLOCKCHAIN, THAT THAT SATISFIES, UM, A CODE, IT, IT RUNS AND SOMETHING HAPPENS, RIGHT? SO LIKE, IF YOU SELL AN NFT, IT MAY HAVE A SMART CONTRACTOR CONNECTED TO IT THAT SAYS, SEND SOME AMOUNT OF ROYALTY TO THE ORIGINAL ARTIST, RIGHT? AND EVERY TIME THAT SALE HAPPENS, THAT AUTOMATICALLY HAPPENS.

SO, UH, THAT'S AN INTERESTING POTENTIAL APPLICATION THERE.

UH, ASSET OWNERSHIP AND TRANSFER TRACKING, UM, SUPPLY CHAIN VALIDATION AND MANAGEMENT, THOSE TWO THINGS ARE RELATED.

UH, AND THEN TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTING, UH, VENDOR AND CONTRACT MANAGEMENT, UM, I THINK ARE SOME OTHER POTENTIAL.

SO IT'S A REALLY EXCITING SPACE.

UM, IT'S A, IT'S A FASCINATING TECHNOLOGY.

UM, I THINK IT, AGAIN, WHEN COMBINED WITH OTHERS CAN BE HIGHLY USEFUL.

UH, IT IS, UH, IT IS A DEVELOPING SPACE THOUGH, AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S BEING SOLD AS, AS A, AS A FULL PRODUCT WHEN IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE A FEATURE OF A PRODUCT.

UM, I KNOW, UH, I'M RUNNING UP ON TIME HERE, SO, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, BASICALLY THE, THE CRYPTOCURRENCY PIECE OF THIS, UM, LAW AND FINANCE, UH, EFFECTIVELY DETERMINED THAT WE CAN'T HOLD CRYPTOCURRENCY.

UM, WE, IF WE WERE GIVEN CRYPTOCURRENCY FOR A PAYMENT, WE WOULD'VE, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF APPLICATION OR VENDOR TO CONVERT THAT PAYMENT TO, UM, TO DOLLARS.

UH, AND THEN TO PUT THAT ON OUR BOOKS, UH, IT IS POSSIBLE.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF QUESTION IS WHAT PROBLEM IS IT SOLVING AND WOULD IT BE WORTH THE COST OF SETTING UP THAT HUGE SYSTEM, UH, OR I WON'T CALL IT HUGE, BUT THAT SYSTEM TO ENABLE THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, WE, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT, THAT, THAT TYPE OF SOLUTION WOULD BE SOLVING.

SO IT IS POSSIBLE.

UM, THE GENERAL GUIDANCE THOUGH, UH, FROM LIKE THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION RIGHT NOW IS, UH, TO WAIT UNTIL THE VOLATILITY SETTLES DOWN BEFORE, UM, ACTUALLY DELVING OFFICIALLY INTO ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF MARKETS.

SO, UH, AS OF NOW, THE CITY WON'T BE, UM, ACCEPTING CRYPTOCURRENCY, UH, FOR PAYMENTS OR ADOPTING A CITY COIN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

NOT SAYING IT MAY NOT CHANGE IN THE FUTURE AS IT DEVELOPS, BUT AT THIS MOMENT, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

SO, I'LL TAKE A BREATH, .

UH, BUT I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEW IT ALL OUT.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

UH, AS A BUNDLE OF JOY, UH, TO MANAGE THERE AT THE HOUSE.

FIRST, LET ME PUT EVERYONE ON PAUSE FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE, UH, DANIEL MADE IT CLEAR HE ONLY HAD SO MUCH TIME, UH, FOR THIS PRESENTATION IN LIGHT OF WHAT HE'S GOT, UH,

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SO, UH, I, WE WOULD LIKE TO LEVEL SET WITH YOU, DANIEL.

DO, DO YOU, UH, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANNA GIVE US YOUR QUESTIONS HERE TODAY? UM, I THINK IF WE GOT 10 MINUTES, THAT'D BE GREAT.

WELL, THAT'S VERY GENEROUS.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, AND LEMME BEGIN BY SAYING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND FOR THIS UPDATE, UH, I WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF THE FACT THAT THIS PARTICULAR UPDATE WAS INSPIRED BY, UH, ENGAGEMENT WITH ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT ACTUALLY, UH, BROUGHT THIS UP, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO IN CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

AND, UH, WHO HAPPENS TO BE A COMMISSIONER, FORMER, UH, TECHNOLOGY COMMISSIONER THAT'S NOW ON THE LIBRARY COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL.

AND ALTHOUGH THEY COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, THEY DID ACTUALLY, UH, SHE DID ACTUALLY SHARE WITH ME, UH, SOME THOUGHTS AND, UH, QUESTIONS IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, UH, THEY INSPIRED THIS PRESENTATION.

SO I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THOSE, AND AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THESE AREN'T MY THOUGHTS.

UH, THESE ARE COMMISSIONER ROSEN THOUGHTS, THOUGHTS, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO GIVE OUR, OUR COMMISSIONERS A CHANCE TO REACT TO THOSE AS WELL AS, UH, TO THE ANSWERS AND THEN TO PROVIDE YOUR OWN QUESTIONS.

SO, BEGINNING, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL STATES, I WOULDN'T, UH, CHARACTERIZE THE LIVE FILES PROJECT AS A SUCCESS.

UH, IT HASN'T BEEN DEPLOYED, WHICH WOULD BE PREREQUISITE TO CLAIMING SUCCESS.

UH, THERE CLEARLY ARE ISSUES WITH HINDERING DEPLOYMENT, AND I'D BE CONCERNED THAT THE USE OF BLOCKCHAIN INSTEAD OF WELL UNDERSTOOD COMMISSIONAL TECHNOLOGIES MAY BE CONTRIBUTING.

UH, I MIGHT SURE YOU'D LIKE TO REACT TO THAT.

I THINK YOU ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES IN YOUR STATEMENT, UH, FRANKLY, UH, DANIEL, BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO REACT TO THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.

I MEAN, IF, JUST IF IT PROVIDES SOME CLARIFICATION, I CERTAINLY HEAR THAT POINT IT HASN'T BEEN DEPLOYED.

UM, THE MAIN POINT, OR THE MAIN REASON WE HAVEN'T, UM, AND WE MADE THAT CHOICE WAS, WAS DUE TO GOVERNANCE.

UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE GOVERNANCE MODEL OF WHO COULD OWN THIS, UH, TECHNOLOGY, UM, AS AN EXTENDED BEYOND AUSTIN.

UH, SO WE, WE KNEW THAT THE CITY PROBABLY COULDN'T, COULDN'T OWN SOMETHING THAT, THAT SERVED, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, UH, A BOUNDARYLESS, UM, POPULATION.

UM, AND, AND BLOCKCHAIN IS, IS A VERY, VERY TINY, UH, PART OF THAT TEXT PACKAGE USED FOR ONE VALIDATION STEP FOR DOCUMENTS.

SO, UM, YEAH, WE, WE DID DO A, A PRETTY THOROUGH, UM, EVALUATION AND FOUND THAT IT WAS, IT WAS ONLY GOOD FOR THAT AND NOT GOOD FOR THE REST OF IT, UH, WHICH WAS GOOD.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE TO FIND A GOOD PARTNER THAT CAN HELP US DEPLOY THAT, UM, ONE DAY.

BUT I DO THINK IT WAS SUCCESSFUL IN, IN THE R AND D, UH, PROJECT THAT IT WAS ALWAYS FRAMED, UH, TO BE, WE LEARNED A LOT AND, AND, AND FOUND OUR STANCE, UM, THERE AND, AND, AND YEAH, A LOT OF THE LESSONS WE LEARNED ARE IN PLAY TODAY.

SO, UH, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE.

WE, WE'D CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

AND THE NEXT STATEMENT HERE, YOU LITERALLY JUST ADDRESSED, IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY EARLIER, UH, THEY, UH, THEN ASK, OR, OR STATE, UH, THE CITY APPARENTLY RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM NUMEROUS BLOCKCHAIN SUPPORTERS IN PREPARING FOR THE SUPPORT, AND ACTUALLY DID SPEAK TO THAT EARLIER.

UH, THERE ARE ALSO MANY TECHNOLOGY PEOPLE WHO ARE CRITICAL OF THIS TECHNOLOGY.

UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, IT ISN'T CLEAR THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERED RESOURCES IN PREPARING THIS REPORT.

UM, AND I, I CAN'T SAY THAT'S THE CASE, BUT THAT, THAT'S THEIR FEEDBACK.

UH, ANY A STATEMENT OF, OF OR FEEDBACK ON THAT? UM, I, I CAN SAY I HAD A SPECTRUM OF OPINIONS , UM, OR, OR A SPECTRUM OF, OF, OF REPRESENTED, UM, POSITIONS AND EXPERTISES AS WE WERE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

SO I, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MAKE THAT AS CLEAR AS I COULD HAVE.

UM, BUT WE WERE, WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL IN MAKING SURE TO TRY AND GET, GET ALL SIDES, UM, AS WE REVIEWED.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

IN FACT, I, I, I WOULD, UH, HAVE APPRECIATED, UH, GETTING THE REACTION FROM OUR PUBLIC, FROM OUR COMMISSIONER, FROM, FROM OTHERS AS WELL AFTER YOUR, YOUR MEMOS, WHICH CLEARLY ADDRESSED MANY OF THESE ISSUES.

UH, THEN NOW, UH, THE GUIDELINES FOR CONSIDERING SECTION DOES MENTION THE IMPORTANCE OF CONSIDERING CONVENTIONAL TECHNOLOGY, UH, BUT REALLY SHOULD INCLUDE A POINT SUCH AS WOULD BLOCKCHAIN IMPLEMENTATION, UH, BE SUPERIOR, UH, SOLUTION TO CONVENTIONAL TECHNOLOGIES? I WANT TO SAY THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS PRETTY SOUNDLY WITH YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR GUIDE, WHICH DESCRIBES, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN ASK YOU TO ANSWER.

IF YOU ANSWER NO TO THESE QUESTIONS, THEN YOU SHOULD CONSIDER BLOCKCHAIN.

I THINK THAT DOES A THOROUGH JOB OF ADDRESSING THAT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? UM, I MEAN THAT, HOPEFULLY THAT'S WHAT THOSE GUIDELINES ACCOMPLISH.

UM, THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS THAT THIS IS CERTAINLY, UM, LIVING GUIDANCE THAT WE HOPE TO, TO UPDATE IN ANY, ANY OTHER INPUT IS WELCOME.

AND I AM, I'M HAPPY TO ADD OR MODIFY THAT GUIDANCE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE RECEIVE IT.

AND IF WE, IF WE FOUND BETTER ONES OR ADDITIONAL ONES,

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AND THEN LASTLY HERE, UH, SHE SAYS, I THINK THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY SECTION SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSED DIGITAL SIGNING.

UH, THAT'S A WELL UNDERSTOOD METHOD TO PROVE INFORMATION IS AUTHENTIC AND IMMUTABLE.

THAT'S NOT A NOVEL FEATURE TO BLOCKCHAIN.

UH, THE ENTIRETY OF, SO THE SECURE WEB HTTPS DEPENDS ON DIGITAL SIGNING.

ANY THOUGHTS OR FEEDBACK ON THAT STATEMENT? YEAH, I MEAN, THE, THE CITY'S BEEN, UM, LOOKING INTO AND STARTING TO ADOPT DIGITAL SIGNING TECHNOLOGIES.

UM, I WAS, I THINK WHEN PUTTING THAT TOGETHER WAS MORE THINKING OF WAYS TO, TO, TO RECORD AND COMPILE, UH, DATA.

BUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE, THE DATA VALIDATION PIECE, UM, AND, AND DIGITAL SIGNATURE THERE WOULD, WOULD BE VALID THERE.

SO YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THAT SECTION.

OKAY, GREAT.

NOW I'VE GOT, UH, A POTENTIAL QUESTION, BUT I WANNA HOLD ONTO IT AND OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR.

AND I'D LIKE TO BEGIN, UH, I DON'T SEE ANYONE, WELL, I SEE COMMISSION YATES, HE'S QUICKLY RAISED HIS HAND.

AND THEN WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER DUTA.

UH, YES PLEASE, GENTLEMEN.

UH, COMMISSIONER YATES, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, CRYPTOCURRENCY THAT I, I'VE NEVER GOTTEN ANSWERED.

SO YOU SAID THAT, UH, CRYPTOCURRENCY MINORS ARE PAID IN BITCOINS.

NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE ARE A FINITE NUMBER OF BITCOINS.

SO AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WHEN THE NUMBER OF BITCOINS ARE TOTALLY ALLOCATED, HOW ARE BITCOIN MINERS PAID? I GUESS THEY WON'T BE AT THAT POINT.

THEY WILL JUST BE, UM, BITCOINS WILL JUST BE TRADED.

UH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UH, I, I THINK THE TRANSACTIONS WILL JUST BE LIKE, SO HONORS AT SOME POINT THAT THE, THE ISSUANCE OF THOSE COINS WILL BE VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK GOING INTO 'EM.

UM, BUT AT, YEAH, AT SOME POINT THERE WILL BE NO MORE, UM, NO MORE COINS TO BE ISSUED.

AND I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION OF THEREAFTER WHAT HAPPENS, UM, TO, TO SPUR VALIDATION ON THAT BLOCKCHAIN? UM, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

AND I, I, I DON'T KNOW IT.

SO ALL OF THESE, UH, CRYPTOCURRENCIES ARE ESSENTIALLY LIMITED IN SCOPE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, I BELIEVE.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ARE PROGRAMMATICALLY NECESSARILY ON ALL THE CHAINS.

MANY OF THEM ARE TO PUT, YOU KNOW, AN ELEMENT OF SCARCITY.

SO THEY DO HAVE SOME TRADING VALUE AND CAN'T BE JUST GENERATED INFINITELY, I GUESS THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE VALUE.

UM, BUT IT'S INTERESTING CUZ YOU KNOW, THAT'S A VERY LIKE CURRENCY CONCEPT, RIGHT? UM, AND A VALUE CONCEPT, NOT NECESSARILY DATA STRUCTURE CONCEPT.

SO THAT'S THE MIRRORING OF THESE TWO THINGS IS WHERE IT GETS, IT GETS KIND OF, KIND OF CLOUDY.

UM, SO YEAH, WHEN PEOPLE LIKE ISSUE COINS, LIKE A COIN IS NOT HARD TO MAKE.

YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, I WAS TALKING TO SOME DEVELOPER, I SAID, I CAN, HE SAID, I CAN MAKE YOU A COIN IN 20 MINUTES, UM, AND YOU JUST TELL ME HOW MANY YOU WANT AND THEN I MAKE 'EM, UH, AND HOWEVER MANY YOU SAY, AND THEN THE WORLD PUTS THE VALUE ON THOSE, RIGHT? SO, SO THEN IT'S A MARKET BASED SYSTEM.

UM, SO MOST OF THEM ARE LIMITED FOR THAT REASON.

COMMISSIONER SCOTA, PLEASE.

YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, PARDON MY IGNORANCE INDUSTRY, BUT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM OUR READING A COUPLE OF ARTICLES IN BLOCKCHAIN IS THAT I WAS WONDERING IN THE SILOED STRUCTURE OF A CITY WHERE AUSTIN IS TYPICAL SILOED CITY.

BRING UP A GOOD POINT AND SOMETHING, ONE OF THE BIG LESSONS THAT WE DID LEARN THROUGH THAT LIFE FILES PROJECT WAS YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO CONSIDER THE CURRENT, UM, THEIR CURRENT ORGANIZATION AND THE FORMAT OF THAT ORGANIZATION THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH THEM.

, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE VALUE OF BLOCKCHAIN WHEN I WAS READING ABOUT BLOCKCHAIN.

IT NOT ONLY IS THE TRANSACTION IMMUTABLE, IT'S ALSO THE VALUE THAT YOU GAIN FROM EACH TRANSACTION IS ALSO STORED THERE.

AND THAT'S AN IMMUTABLE PART OF THAT, UH, LET'S SAY OBJECT, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.

AND SO I WAS THINKING LIKE A MULTINATIONAL CORPORATION WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT PRODUCT, WHERE PARTS OF IT GO ACROSS NATIONAL BOUNDARIES, THEN COME BACK AGAIN.

AND AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY IN THAT BLOCKCHAIN, YOU ARE ADDING VALUE, DEDUCTING VALUE, WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, BUT YOU ARE ADDING AND SUBTRACTING AS IT GOES ALONG SO THAT YOU KNOW WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PRICE THAT PRODUCT, YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS IS THE VALUE THAT WAS CONTRIBUTED BY THIS COUNTRY'S LOCATION.

AND IT WAS, AND THIS IS THE VALUE THAT CAME FROM OTHER LOCATIONS, ET CETERA.

SO THAT NOW WHEN YOU TRY TO SELL THAT PRODUCT, YOU KNOW WHERE TO PAY HOW MUCH TAXES, OKAY.

AND HOW MUCH PROFITS TO GAIN FROM IT.

AND SO IT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO CALCULATE GDP MORE ACCURATELY OF EACH COUNTRY RATHER THAN IT'S USED IN A VERTICAL STRUCTURE OF A CITY.

AM I MISTAKEN? IN MY MISTAKEN, IN MY ASSUMPTION, AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON.

AND YOU

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FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE THOUGHT ABOUT IS, OH, WE COULD MAKE SMART CONTRACTS, UH, TO MAKE ALL THESE SERVICES HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WHEN THEY SATISFIED, UM, REQUIREMENTS, WELL, THAT'S NOT HOW ANY OF THE AGENCIES CURRENTLY WORK, RIGHT? SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THEM BASICALLY CHANGE THEIR WHOLE STRUCTURES TO USE THIS THING WHICH THEY WEREN'T GONNA DO.

SO, YOU KNOW, ANY, AND THIS IS THE CASE OF ANY TYPE OF ADOPTING ANY TUNE NEW TECHNOLOGY, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT FITS THE WORKFLOWS AND THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IT IN, OR THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO CHANGE THOSE WORKFLOWS AND STRUCTURES.

SO YES, UNLESS WE WERE WILLING TO CHANGE OUR STRUCTURE AND WORKFLOW IN MANY OF THESE CASES, SOMETHING ELSE WOULD PROBABLY WORK BETTER.

GREAT QUESTION.

YOU JUST, HE MADE ME A LITTLE MORE CONFIDENT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.

GREAT QUESTION AND RESPONSE.

UH, THAT PRETTY MUCH USES THE TIME.

I WILL GIVE ANYONE FOR A BRIEF QUESTION IF THEY'VE GOT ONE.

UH, OKAY.

WELL, DANIEL, UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, FOR SHARING TIME WITH US.

UH, AND PLEASE GIVE OUR BEST TO, UH, YOUR BABY AND, AND YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR SON'S, UH, WIFE, YOUR WIFE , YOUR SON'S MOTHER, UH, OUR BEST.

AND, UH, IF YOU BE SO KIND US TO, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO COMMUNICATION FROM US AND PERHAPS, UH, JOINING A, A WORKING GROUP DISCUSSION TO MAYBE DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO SOME OF THESE.

I'D LOVE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, SHARON COMMISSIONERS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, HAPPY TO JOIN ANYTIME.

SO, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK TO YOU SOON.

THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA HERE.

UH, THAT WAS GREAT.

UH, ITEM AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, COMMISSION THE 2023 SCHEDULE, UH, WILL BE OUR FIRST POINT OF DISCUSSION.

SO NOW MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. DISCUSSION.

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YOU ALL HAVE, UH, THIS PROPOSED 2023 MEETING SCHEDULE, EITHER IN THE SOFT COPY OR IN THE HARD COPY HERE FOR US IN THE ROOM.

UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD THIS, UH, SCHEDULE.

I KNOW BEARS IN MIND, UH, THE DYNAMICS OF SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST AND, AND, AND HOW THAT IMPACTS OUR DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR.

AND, UH, SO THERE'S A MEETING IN MARCH THEN, UH, WHERE, AS IS MENTIONED, WE'D LIKE TO HOLD THAT OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL CITY, ALTHOUGH WE COULD WORK ON CONFIRM THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION EITHER TODAY OR AT ANOTHER DATE.

UH, AT LEAST OUR GOAL, I SHOULD SAY.

UH, YES, CHAIR PETS.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO DECIDE ON A LOCATION, UH, AT THIS MOMENT.

UH, Y'ALL ARE CERTAINLY FREE TO DO SO IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

WELL, I PROPOSE WE WAIT ON THAT IN LIGHT OF OUR ROBUST AGENDA.

UH, BUT I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS SCHEDULE.

AND THEN A SECOND SO WE CAN VOTE.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SCHEDULE.

I SECONDED.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SCHEDULE BY COMMISSIONER GARZA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSION DTA.

SO NOW WE CAN HOLD A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE SCHEDULE THAT'S PRESENTED.

PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AND SHOW YOUR HAND.

MOVING FORWARD IN OUR AGENDA, UH, TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE, FCC BROADBAND STANDARDS, DISCUSSION AND ACTION.

ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY.

SO WE ARE HAVE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL HERE.

SEVEN IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

THIS SCHEDULE IS NOW OFFICIAL FOR 2023.

NOW,

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SO WE HAD A LITTLE HOMEWORK ON THIS ONE, UH, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL VERY BUSY.

UH, AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, BASED ON THE RESPONSE LEVEL THAT I GOT, THAT, UH, MANY OF YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO, TO PROVIDE ANY RESPONSES ON THIS, AND, AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, BUT WE DID HAVE SOME COMMISSIONERS WHO TOOK THE TIME, UH, AND CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT, UH, THEY'RE FULLY CAPABLE OF SPEAKING FOR THEMSELVES AND, AND, AND THEIR FEEDBACK HERE ON THESE STANDARDS, I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, UH, BY GIVING COMMISSIONER SUPTA A CHANCE TO ADDRESS HIS FEEDBACK.

AND THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND PIVOT TO ANYONE ELSE THAT ALSO HAD IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK, UH, BEFORE I SHARE MINE.

AND, UH, WE HAVE DISCUSSION.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND SO I CAN PULL UP THE NOTE THAT I SENT EARLIER.

SO, YOU KNOW, COMMISSION, UH, CHIPS, GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, OFFER IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHILE I LOOK UP THE NOTE THAT I SENT EARLIER.

UM, THAT HE CONSOLIDATE, I'M SURE HE CONSOLIDATED IT INTO, UH, MARCH, MUCH LARGER DOCUMENT.

VICE CHAIR, UH, ABUDA WOULD LIKE TO OFFER SOME THOUGHTS.

YES, THANK YOU.

UH, I SENT THROUGH TWO ITEMS ON MY GENERAL THOUGHTS TO JESSE,

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UM, THE FIRST WAS TO POTENTIALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A COMMISSION, UH, TO ALIGN ON MINIMUM SPEEDS AS OPPOSED TO, UH, MAXIMUM THEORETICAL SPEEDS.

UH, I KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AS COMMISSION PROBABLY TWO OR THREE MEETINGS AGO.

UM, SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY AN ANSWER, BUT, UM, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ALL IN GENERAL AGREEMENT.

UM, THE SECOND ITEM THAT I HAD SENT THROUGH WAS, UM, REALLY JUST TO HAVE A DIALOGUE ON WHETHER THERE'S ANY WAY EITHER AS A COMMISSION OR, UM, ENGAGEMENT WITH CITY COUNCIL TO EITHER ENCOURAGE OR, OR REQUIRE ISPS TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO SOME OF THOSE POCKETS OF TRAVIS COUNTY, UM, THAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS EITHER UNDER OR UNSERVED.

UM, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, ONE OF THE ISPS, UH, PRESENTED TESTIMONY, UM, SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, AND, UM, ESSENTIALLY THEY, THEY HAD INDICATED THAT THERE'S NO, UM, BUSINESS GOAL, AT LEAST AT THIS TIME, TO FOCUS IN ON THOSE SPECIFIC POCKETS, THAT, UM, IN SOME CASES WE'VE, UM, WE'VE HAD CON CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAYING THAT QUALITY OF OF SERVICES IS POOR.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, UH, TOPIC FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSION.

OKAY, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.

UH, THE SECOND POINT FIRST, UM, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT A, A, A SEPARATE, UH, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL ACTION ITEM ON THE AGENDA THERE.

UH, ALTHOUGH IT OBVIOUSLY RELATES TO EXISTING ACCESS AND, AND, UH, THE QUALITY OF THAT ACCESS IN, IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS TOWN.

SO WE'LL NEED TO TABLE THAT, UH, TO LATER ON IN OUR DISCUSSION TODAY.

BUT I, BUT I THINK WE, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

ALTHOUGH THEY'VE BEEN INCREASED, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN INCREASED INADEQUATELY AS WE KNOW.

AND SO, UH, WE'RE STILL BASICALLY IN THE SAME POSITION OF NEEDING TO SHOW LEADERSHIP FOR THIS AS A COMMUNITY, UH, ON, ON WHAT CAN BE.

UM, BEFORE I SHARE ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAD ANYTHING PERHAPS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO SHARE OR THAT THEY MIGHT SHARE NOW.

JEFF BITS I CAN SHARE.

I CAN TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT I SAID TO YOU.

DOWN, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE, ARE SIGNED UP.

YES, PLEASE, COMMISSIONER, TO GO RIGHT AHEAD.

SO, THE, THE NUMBERS I'VE PROPOSED ARE BASED ON SOME EXPERIENCES, UH, GOING BACK TO 2020 WHEN I WORKED ON THE CENSUS.

I KEEP REFERRING TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DATA POINT.

AND, UH, THE NUMBER I HEARD WAS THAT, UH, IN THE, IN THE RUNDBERG, UH, UH, THE LAMAR AREA, THEY WERE OFFERING 25 MEGABITS PER SECOND, UH, OF SERVICE.

AND IT WAS PRETTY MUCH, UM, JUST BARELY ENOUGH FOR ONE CHILD.

SO I SAID, OKAY, IF WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD, WE GOTTA DO BETTER THAN THAT.

SO I SAID, A MINIMUM DOWNLOAD SPEED FOR A FAMILY SHOULD BE 200 MEGABITS, ASSUMING IT'S A FAMILY OF FOUR.

SO EACH PERSON GETS ABOUT 50 MEGABITS.

THAT'S TODAY.

NOT JUST THAT, THERE HAS TO BE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST BE STUCK AT PURDUE HUNDRED MEGABITS PER SECOND.

SO I SAID, OKAY, HOW ABOUT 25 MEGABITS PER SECOND PER YEAR OF IMPROVEMENT, SO THAT A YEAR FROM NOW YOU GET 2 25, THEN TWO 50, ETCETERA CETERA.

THEN I PERSONALLY HAVE ABOUT 25 MEGABITS PER SECOND, UH, UPLOAD SPEED.

AND FOR ME, IT IS PLENTY.

BUT FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S UPLOADING A LOT OF VIDEO, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, IF THEY'RE SHARING A PRESENTATION WITH A CLASSMATE, ET CETERA, THEY MIGHT NEED MORE THAN THAT.

SO I SORT OF PULLED A NUMBER OUT OF THE SKY AND SAID, OKAY, LET'S DO 50 MEGABITS PER SECOND, UPLOAD SPEED, AND THAT MUST ALSO IMPROVE AT FIVE MEGABITS PER SECOND.

SECONDLY, SO THIS IS ABOUT MINIMUM SPEED.

THERE'S ANOTHER POINT THAT I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE.

I AM THEORETICALLY SUPPOSED TO GET 350 MEGABITS, BUT DURING THE DAY, IT SLOWS DOWN BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S, WE ARE IN A MULTIPOINT NETWORK, YOU JUST DROPS SPEED DROPS BECAUSE YOU ARE JUST DROPPING BITS AS YOU GO ALONG TO DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS.

SO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY SLOW

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UH, IT CAN SLOW DOWN TO ABOUT 2 60, 2 70 TO 80, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UH, SOMETIMES AS LOW AS TWO 50.

SO THERE HAS, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF A QUALITY OF SERVICE.

AND SO WHAT I'VE PROPOSED THAT IS A MEASURE OF QUALITY OF SERVICE, THAT AT ANY POINT DURING A 24 HOUR PERIOD, THE SPEED DEGRADATION CANNOT BE MORE THAN 10%.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, UH, MY CONTRIBUTION TO THIS DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER SUPTA AND, UH, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ENGAGE IN THE EXERCISE AND, YOU KNOW, TO USE YOUR OWN, UH, SPEEDS WITH DIFFERENT DEVICES AND EVEN INCLUDING YOUR, YOUR FAMILY IN THIS TEST.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, I PERSONALLY FEEL AS THOUGH, UH, YOUR FEEDBACK IS WELL TAKEN.

UH, I WONDER IF WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ENTERTAIN A LARGER STANDARD GOAL FOR MINIMUM, UH, IN LIGHT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ANTICIPATION OF FORTHCOMING TECHNOLOGIES AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF 5G FURTHER BUT FULLY SUPPORT THE SCALED APPROACH.

I THINK THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FACTORING IN THERE THAT DOES BEAR IN MIND, UH, THE NEED FOR FUTURE INCREASE.

UH, I'D LIKE TO GET EVERYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS OR FEEDBACK ON, ON THAT AND, AND HOW WE SHOULD APPROACH THIS.

AND I WANNA SAY THIS AS WELL, UM, BEFORE GETTING THAT FEEDBACK, WE STILL HAVE, UH, A VERY IMPORTANT AND HEALTHY EXERCISE TO ENGAGE IN.

UM, AND I, I FEEL REMISS SOMEHOW BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UH, SOMETHING MIGHT HAVE BEEN LOST IN TRANSLATION FROM OUR LAST CONVERSATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE AGREED TO WAS, UH, THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET INSIGHTS OR AT LEAST, UH, FEEDBACK FROM THE PROVIDERS.

UH, NOW, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING PROVIDERS IN THE AREAS THAT THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDE SERVICE, UH, BUT TO ALLOW THEM TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS, UH, AND, UH, BASED UPON THEIR CAPABILITIES, UH, NATURALLY.

UH, BUT, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT THOSE CAPABILITIES, UH, MAY VARY, UH, AND THEN THEREFORE, UH, THE SERVICE OFFERINGS THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS RECEIVE.

THEN ALSO, BARRY, UH, CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE RECIPROCITY, OR AT THE VERY LEAST, MORE EQUANIMITY, I SHOULD SAY, UH, AMONGST THE STANDARDS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WE DO STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK, UM, WHAT I'M, I'M HOPING WE CAN DO, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING IS TO PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THE QUESTIONS FOR OUR PROVIDERS.

I WANNA APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT I SHARED A DOCUMENT WITH JESSE THAT INCLUDED SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD ASK PROVIDERS, AND WAS CLEAR TO ME IS THAT THAT DOCUMENT DID NOT GO THROUGH, ALTHOUGH I TRIED TO SHARE IT FROM GOOGLE DOCS, IT INCLUDED THINGS LIKE, WHAT IS YOUR QUANTIFIABLE COST PER MEGABYTE OF SERVICE UP AND DOWN, UH, TO ESTABLISH SOME KIND OF AT LEAST UNDERSTANDING OF, UH, OF WHAT INDIVIDUAL PROVIDERS ARE CHARGING, UH, WITH A GOAL FROM A CONSUMER'S PROTECTION STANDPOINT OF CREATING, UH, SOMETHING WHICH IS MORE CONSUMER FRIENDLY FROM A, UH, AN UNDERSTANDING STANDPOINT AND ALSO FROM A BALANCE, UH, STANDPOINT, SINCE CONSUMER PROTECTION IS ALSO ONE OF THE, THE KEY TASKS OF THIS COMMISSION AND OF THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS REGULATORY AFFAIRS OFFICE.

SO I, I STILL THINK WE STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO GIVE ANYONE A CHANCE TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THAT.

NOW WE CAN KIND OF GET SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS GOING.

NOW, THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

UH, VICE CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON QUESTIONS WE MIGHT ASK, UH, OUR PROVIDERS OUT THERE ABOUT THEIR CAPABILITIES THAT MIGHT HELP THIS EFFORT? YEAH, I, I, I REALLY LIKED, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER THE SCOOP DOES SUGGESTED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF QUALITY DEGRADATION.

SO CERTAINLY THE QUESTION TO THEM ON, UM, WHAT'S REALISTIC, WHAT'S ACHIEVABLE, UH, BOTH IN THE SHORT TERM MEDIA AND TERM AND, AND EVEN LONG TERM, I THINK IS, UH, COULD BE A KEY QUESTION TO, TO ASK THEM.

DIRECTED TOWARDS, UH, JESSE AND TARA AND, UM, WHAT ARE THE CURRENT FCC, ARE THERE CURRENT MINIMUM BROADBAND STANDARDS FOR FCC, OR ARE THEY TRYING TO DEVELOP SOME RIGHT NOW? AND HOW DO PEOPLE GIVE INPUT TO THIS PROCESS? SURE.

I, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

UH, THAT, UH, THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT ABOUT THE SERVICE SEGREGATION BEING KEY.

UH, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON, ON THAT OR QUESTIONS WE MIGHT, UH, POSE TO OUR COMMISSION? GATES? UH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE

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UH, YEAH, AND THE FCC DOES HAVE CURRENT BROADBAND GUIDELINES.

I BELIEVE THE CURRENT GUIDELINE IS 25 OVER THREE.

UH, SO 25 DOWNLOAD, THREE UPLOAD.

UM, THOSE ARE, UH, THOSE HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR, UH, QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW.

I'VE HEARD THAT THE FCC IS IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THEIR STANDARDS.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE, UH, THAT THEY'VE SET A NEW STANDARD YET.

I MEAN, UH, THE, WHAT I AM HEARING IS THAT THE NEW STANDARD IS GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND A HUNDRED DOWNLOAD, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE UPLOAD IS GONNA BE, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THOSE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE STILL ONGOING.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE INPUT PROCESS IS FOR THAT.

UM, OUTSIDE OF, UM, UH, ANYTIME THE FCC, UH, DOES CHANGE THEIR GUIDELINES, THERE'S, UH, A FORMAL RULE MAKING PROCESS THAT THE, YOU KNOW, ANY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY WOULD GO THROUGH.

UM, AND SO THERE'S A, UH, UH, A FEEDBACK PROCESS, UM, IN, IN THAT RULE MAKING, BUT I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, SO I CAN'T REALLY, UH, DIRECT Y'ALL ON THAT.

I WANNA GIVE, UH, I THINK OUR SENIOR CONSULTANT, COAN HARMON MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHIME IN HERE.

BUT I DO WANNA POINT OUT SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.

UH, WE DEDICATED A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR MEETING AGENDA TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO TO THIS TOPIC.

AND THOSE MEETING DOCUMENTS INCLUDE ALL OF THESE, UH, DATA POINTS.

THERE'S TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT SPECIFY WHAT THE SPEEDS AND FEEDS ARE, WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE, WHAT THE FCC BASES IT ON.

SO PLEASE REFER TO THOSE DOCUMENTS, UM, AND USE THOSE AS THE SOURCE FOR THE IDEATION FOR THE QUESTIONS FOR OUR PROVIDERS.

UH, WE ALREADY HAVE, HAVE, I THINK, WHAT WE NEED TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN OUR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OUR CHALLENGES HERE LOCALLY, UH, THAT CONTENT FROM OUR MEETING TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO, WHICH IS IN THE COMMISSION RECORD.

UM, ALTHOUGH I GUESS MY REQUEST IF, UH, JESSE, IF YOU'D BE SO KIND, UH, AS TO REDISTRIBUTE THOSE DOCUMENTS, UH, THAT WAY THEY'RE AT THE TOP OF EVERYONE'S INBOX, THAT SHOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

UH, BUT WITH THAT, LET ME, UH, I THINK I SAW HER NODDING AS THOUGH SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUMP IN HERE.

UH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE, UH, QUAN HARMON A CHANCE TO SHARE HER THOUGHTS.

HI.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

FEEDBACK IN PRIOR TO THE 23RD, WE'LL BE WELL SURF FOR THAT.

CHAIR PITTS, UH, JUST, UH, THAT DIFFERENT FUNDING REQUIREMENTS ARE ASKING FOR DIFFERENT SPEEDS RIGHT NOW.

THE BEAD FUNDING, THE BROADBAND EQUITY ACCESS AND DEPLOYMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE 42 POINT 45 BILLION THAT IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND A HUNDRED MILLION WILL GO PER STATE PENDING THE FCC MAPS THAT HAVE COME OUT.

SO POSSIBLY TEXAS WILL GET ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION OF IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING TO BUILD UP INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE NEEDED TO INCREASE ADOPTION, THEY HAVE CASCADING PRIORITIES THAT UNSERVED AREAS LACK 25 3 UNDERSERVED AREAS LACK A HUNDRED OVER 20, AND COMMUNITY AND INSTITUTIONS LACK ONE OVER ONE GIGABITS.

SO THAT IS THE NEW DEFINITION BASED ON THE FUNDING THAT'S COMING DOWN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, THE BEAD PROGRAM.

UM, AND RIGHT NOW, UH, THIS, THE BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE HAS POSTED, UM, THEIR, THEIR, THERE IS A COMMENT, UH, PERIOD THAT WILL END OCTOBER 23RD, BECAUSE THE RULES HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED ON SEPTEMBER 23RD.

SO THERE IS A MONTH LONG PROCESS WE'RE GIVING FEEDBACK.

ANYONE CAN GIVE FEEDBACK TO THE BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, UH, THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE.

AND THE TEXAS REGISTER HAS THE RULES, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND THOSE TO Y'ALL IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AND GIVE FEEDBACK.

UH, YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

IN FACT, I THINK THIS IS, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK.

UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA DO THAT AS A BODY OR AS INDIVIDUALS, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAVE THE MOST IMPACT.

BUT, UH, AT THE VERY LEAST, WE COULD COME TOGETHER, UH, SO THAT THERE'S, UH, UNANIMITY IN OUR FEEDBACK, UH, OR CONSISTENCY, UH, THAT THEY'RE HEARING IT FROM MULTIPLE VOICES, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING.

UM, BUT EITHER WAY, I THINK THAT, UH, IF WE CAN MAKE SOME THINGS HAPPEN TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN GET THE

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THAT DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH TIME.

UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, BASICALLY, UH, WHAT IS THAT, TWO WEEKS FROM THIS COMING MONDAY, RIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UH, THERE DOESN'T REALLY MUCH TIME, BUT COMMISSIONER OCU, DO YOU HAVE ANY, DO YOU HAVE WANNA WEIGH IN ON THIS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU MENTIONING IS A GOOD POINT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF THREW SOME NUMBERS DOWN ON THE TABLE, AND YOU BROUGHT UP THE POINT OF, OF DISCUSSION TO SEE IF WE COULD MAYBE BE MORE, MORE AGGRESSIVE AND RAISE THE NUMBERS.

WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE GOING AROUND THE TABLE AND US AS A COMMISSION AGREEING TO SET SET OF NUMBERS THAT WE CAN ALL GO AND GET FEEDBACK AGREEING WITH THE SAME NUMBERS, SO THAT WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER IF WE GO OUT WITH THE SAME NUMBERS.

SO SHOULD WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE NUMBERS, I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE IF YOU AGREE THAT, THAT MY NUMBERS ARE THE FLOOR, LET'S AGREE ON WHAT SHOULD BE THE RIGHT.

IS IT 300? IS IT 400? LET'S AGREE TO THAT, AND THEN WE'LL ALL PUT IN THE SAME NUMBERS.

WELL, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UH, HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION.

AND I, I THINK THAT THE, THE NUMBERS PROVIDED BY, UH, COTAN EARLIER FOR THE FUNDING SHOULD ALSO BEAR IN, UH, IN MIND.

AND WE, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO, TO FURTHER CLARIFY IN OUR, IN OUR DISCUSSION AT LEAST, OR, OR AGREEMENT I SHOULD WORK FOR AN ANCHOR INSTITUTION.

WHAT SHOULD WORK FOR, UH, FOR UNSERVED AND WHAT SHOULD WORK FOR UNDERSERVED, UH, IN ADDITION.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M RECOGNIZING IS WE HAVE OUR GOALS FOR MINIMUMS THAT WE'RE ENTERTAINING HERE ALREADY AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL, AT THE HOUSEHOLD LEVEL.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR GOALS FOR UNSERVED, OUR GOALS FOR UNDERSERVED, AND THEN OUR GOALS FOR ANCHOR INSTITUTIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN AS I SAY THAT, UH, WANTING REALLY, FRANKLY, EVERYONE TO HAVE, UH, A STANDARD THAT'S REALLY EQUIVALENT TO ANCHOR INSTITUTIONS, UH, IT LEAVES ME KIND OF, IT LEAVES ME IN A, IN A WEIRD STATE, UH, ABOUT REQUESTING ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT .

BUT REALISTICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BEAR IN MIND CAPABILITY.

UM, AND, AND WHAT WE CAN IMAGINE THAT TEXAS VIDEO IS GOING TO DO.

I LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, UH, SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY PROVIDE IT A CONSENSUS CHAIR PITS.

MAY I ADD SOMETHING? PLEASE.

UH, SO THE LATEST, SO OUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDING BASED ON ATTENDING VARIOUS MEETINGS, INCLUDING THE BROADBAND ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF UNSERVED AREAS IN TEXAS FALL WITHIN RURAL TEXAS.

AND THE CASCADING PRIORITIES FOR FUNDINGS ARE GOING TO GO IN ORDER.

UNSERVED FIRST AND NT I NTIA IS ASKING THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF UNSERVED IN TEXAS ARE CONNECTED WITH LAST MILE BROADBAND TO THEIR HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES.

AND THEN IT WILL GO TO UNDERSERVED.

AND IF THERE'S ANY MONEY LEFT OVER, THIS IS JUST MY WORDS, IF THERE'S ANY MONEY LEFT OVER, IT WILL GO TO COMMUNITY ANCHOR INSTITUTIONS.

THE OTHER THING THAT Y'ALL MAY WANNA KEEP IN MIND IS THAT UNSERVED AREAS, SERVING THEM IN RURAL AREAS ARE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN TO SERVE THE UNSERVED IN URBAN AREAS.

AND SO WHEN ISPS ARE, UH, CONSIDERING GOING FOR FUNDING FOR THE BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, THAT MAY BE A CONSIDERATION FOR THEM.

SO I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT I AM NOT MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS CHAIR PITCH.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION IN YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, QUAN.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UH, MATTER OF CONSIDERATION AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

SO THAT WHEN THE TEXAS VIDEO SUBMITS, UH, THEIR APPLICATION, WE CAN THEN COMPETE FOR OUR LEVEL OF FUNDING WHEN IT COMES TO US.

I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A PROPOSAL IN LIGHT OF THIS.

IT SEEMS AS THOUGH, UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GOALS, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT A GOAL, UH, STATED TO ESTABLISH, UH, TO SHOW OUR LEADERSHIP AS A COMMUNITY AND ESTABLISHING A STANDARD FOR THE AUSTIN AREA.

NOW, WE'VE ALSO GOT THE GOAL TO HAVE PLANNING PARTNERSHIPS, INTER LOCAL AGREEMENTS, UH, AND WHAT HAVE YOU IN PLACE

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UH, BUT THE KEY THING ABOUT THAT IS, IN THOSE AGREEMENTS, WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT COLLABORATIONS AS WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE NOW WITH TRAVIS COUNTY, THAT INCLUDES RURAL AREAS OR OUTLINED COUNTIES, WHICH INCLUDE EVEN MORE RURAL AREAS, WHICH WOULD ENABLE US AS A COMMUNITY TO RECEIVE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS, UH, IN PART OF THAT AGREEMENT, UH, INTER LOCALLY WITH OTHER COUNTIES, AND AS YET, UH, INKED OR EVEN NECESSARILY EVEN IDEATED, UH, YOU KNOW, TRIPLE, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AS WELL FOR INVESTMENT.

SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD STAY, WE SHOULD KEEP THE THINGS KIND OF SEPARATE AND, AND FOCUS THE, THE DISCUSSION ON FCC BROADBAND STANDARDS HERE AS A COMMUNITY, UH, IN THIS DISCUSSION, AT LEAST AS PART OF THE AGENDA FOCUSED AROUND WHAT IT SHOULD BE IN AUSTIN, REGARDLESS OF FUNDING, UH, AGAIN, WITH THE GOAL OF THIS STANDARD, HELPING TO INSPIRE, UH, HEALTHY COMPETITION AMONGST OUR LOCAL PROVIDERS AND TO ENCOURAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PARTNERSHIPS AND, AND, UH, THE AGREEMENTS, UH, LATER, UH, AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.

BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S SUPPORT FOR THAT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT LANES WE NEED TO BE OPERATING IN HERE.

I SEE A NOD FROM COMMISSIONER GARZA.

ANY, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR, OR FEEDBACK ON THIS? YEAH, AGREE WITH YOUR POINT ON FOCUSING ON THE NEED, UM, OR THE NEED TO BE HYPER FOCUSED FOR CITY OF AUSTIN, RIGHT? YEAH.

WELL, THAT'S, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT VICE CHAIR DACA.

UH, ANY OTHER FEEDBACK? UH, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ARRIVING AT SOME CONSENSUS, OR EITHER THAT OR OTHERS JUST KIND OF STILL HAVE, I SEE COMMISSIONER ISLAND NODDING.

UH, SO WITH THAT THEN, COMMISSIONER DO SCOOPER, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I AGREE.

AGREE.

NUMBER SIX, THE DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN, DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

SO WITH THAT, THEN, UH, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND THEN REENTER THEN ON THE CAPABILITY ASK OF OUR LOCAL PROVIDERS, RIGHT? AND SO, AGAIN, UH, WE'LL CHALLENGE YOU ALL TO LEVERAGE THOSE EXISTING DOCUMENTS THAT WE, WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER AND DETAIL.

UH, BUT IT'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, SEEK YOUR TEETH INTO THEM AND THINK OF, UH, DIFFERENT QUESTIONS TO ASK PROVIDERS, AGAIN, CENTERED AROUND THEIR CAPABILITIES.

AND, AND GO AHEAD AND BEAR IN MIND THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, GENERAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE NUMBERS THAT COMMISSIONER OTA HAS PRESENTED AS WELL.

TO START WITH.

THAT BEING, UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THAT? THAT WAS A 300, UH, UP AND 200 FOR A FAMILY.

UH, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING FAMILY OF FOUR, EACH ONE GETS ABOUT 50 MEGABITS.

SO THAT'S, UH, 200 AND THEN INCREASE EVERY YEAR BY 25 AND, UH, UPLOAD SPEED OF 50 AND INCREASE BY FIVE EVERY YEAR.

AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT YOUR SERVICE SPEED DOES NOT BOTH UP, UP AND DOWN, UH, DOWN AND UP DOESN'T, UH, DEGRADE BY MORE THAN 10% IN A GIVEN DAY, RIGHT? RIGHT.

FOR PERIOD, EXACTLY THE DEGRADATION COMPONENT.

SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALL INCLUDED IN YOUR EMAIL, THAT, SO THEN JESSE HAS THE CAPABILITY TO TAKE WHAT YOU JUST SHARED, TO AVOID EVERYONE HAVING TO NOTE THAT, OR TO RE-LIST TO THE MINUTES AND THEN DISTRIBUTE THAT TO THE WHOLE COMMISSION.

UH, SO WE CAN USE THAT AS, AS PART OF OUR, UH, INSIGHT POINT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A, A LEVEL TO, TO, TO DEPART FROM FOR STARTING THAT.

AND, AND ONE OTHER COMMENT, UH, S IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS I QUOTED ARE NOT UNREALISTIC BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE ISPS HERE, THEY OFFER THOSE SPEEDS AND MORE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT UBIQUITOUS.

IT'S NOT EVERYWHERE, RIGHT? LIKE, I HAVE ONE PROVIDER PROVIDING THREE 50 YEAR AND ANOTHER PROVIDING ONLY 50.

SO THERE'S ALMOST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS BEEN SLICED AND DICED, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO, UH, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN, AND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE SOME HEALTHY COMPETITION, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED.

SO I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD TO GO ON THAT.

THEN, UH, ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THIS ONE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD IN OUR AGENDA? OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM, UH,

[6. The Digital Inclusion Strategic Plan]

UH, WE DID HAVE SOME, UH, A DOCUMENT SHARE ON THIS ONE.

UH, SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE A, UH, WE DO HAVE A, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME BACK UP.

I, I KNOW

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THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE SUBMITTED, UH, FEEDBACK OR A COUPLE OF YOU WERE ABLE TO SUBMIT FEEDBACK AT LEAST.

UM, AND SO WE DO HAVE SOME PROGRESS IN THIS RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S STILL IN DRAFT FORM.

NOW, THE KEY THING ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION, WE WERE GOING TO FOCUS ON, UH, SINCE WE'VE IDENTIFIED AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, FOR EVERYONE, UH, TUNING IN TODAY, OUR FOCUS, UH, AS A COMMISSION WAS ON, UH, THE DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC, UH, DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN REFRESH, UH, IN NO SMALL PART, BECAUSE THE COMMISSION IN 2014 PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN THE CREATION OF THAT DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND IN LIGHT OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY, UH, WITH THIS, THIS MOMENT AND MOVEMENT AROUND, UH, DIGITAL EQUITY AND INCLUSION, UH, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD TO PURSUE FUNDING.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

UH, WE HAVE A WORKING DRAFT HERE OF THE RESOLUTION.

WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS ON THE RECORD AT LENGTH, UH, BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME, UH, UH, SOME KEY EDITS AND CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, FOCUS ON THOSE CHANGES.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO AVOID, JUST GO AHEAD AND READING IT.

SO LEMME GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

UM, RIGHT.

SO, WHEREAS OUR STATED VISION IN AUSTIN IS FOR, UH, IT'S TO BE A BEACON OF SUSTAINABILITY, SOCIAL EQUITY, AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WHERE DIVERSITY AND CREATIVITY ARE CELEBRATED, WHERE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND VALUES ARE RECOGNIZED, WHERE LEADERSHIP COMES FROM, ITS COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND WHERE THE NECESSITIES OF LIFE WERE AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

WHEREAS THE CTT C WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN, IN THE CREATION OF THE DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN THAT AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER 20TH, 2014.

WHEREAS THE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT OF THE DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN BY CITY COUNCIL, THE OFFICE OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS REGULATORY AFFAIRS, THE CTT C AND THE DIGITAL EMPOWERMENT COMMUNITY OF AUSTIN DECA PARTNERS, HAS IDENTIFIED THE DIGITAL DIVIDE AS HISTORICALLY ROOTED CHALLENGE TO OUR STATED VISION, WHICH WILL REQUIRE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT IN BOTH PHYSICAL AND DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO BRIDGE.

WHEREAS THE IJA, A 1.2 TRILLION INVESTMENT IN US INFRASTRUCTURE WAS PASSED IN THE LAW IN NOVEMBER, 2021.

AND WHEREAS THE NATIONAL TECHNOLOGY TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND, UH, INFORMATION ADMINISTRATION OF THE NT ISSUED NOTICES OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, NO FOS FOR MORE THAN 44 BILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDING TO THE FOLLOWING THREE PROGRAMS AS PART OF THE I IJA, UH, THAT BEING THE BROADBAND DEPLOYMENT PROGRAM, B 42.5 BILLION, THE MIDDLE MILE BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT PROGRAM, MMG 1,000,000,003, THE STATE DIGITAL EQUITY PLANNING GRANT PROGRAM, DEEP 60 MILLION, WHEREAS THE TEXAS BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE IS THE STEWARD OF STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS INTENDED TO CLOSE THE DIGITAL DIVIDE BY INCREASING ACCESS TO RELIABLE HIGH SPEED INTERNET IN THE STATE.

AND BY EARLY OCTOBER 22, UH, THE VIDEO EXPECTS TO HAVE THE PROCESS READY FOR ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS.

AND IN THIS CASE, WE WANT, UH, CLEARLY EDIT THAT TO MADE THE PROCESS.

THEY, THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, UH, MADE THE PROCESS READY.

SO THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE SOME EDITING FOR TIME.

WHEREAS THE TEXAS, UH, COMPTROLLER, UH, AGAIN, GLENN HAGER SUBMITTED THE TEXAS LOI, TEXAS' LOI, UH, LETTER OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BEAT PROGRAM.

AND THE BDO SUBMITTED THE TEXAS APPLICATION FOR DEEP GRANTS PROGRAM TO THEN NTIA ON JULY, UH, 11TH, 2022.

WHEREAS THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN MANAGING, IMPLEMENTING THE DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN WITH VARIOUS PROGRAMS, WHILE ALSO ASSESSING AND CREATING NEW DIGITAL INCLUSION, UH, SOLUTIONS THROUGH TARA, THE CTT C AND DECA PARTNERS, TO MEET THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHILE ALSO ASSESSING VIABLE LONG TERM STRATEGIC AND SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS TO CLOSE IN DIGITAL DIVIDE IN AUSTIN.

WHEREAS CONTROLLER HAGER SENT A LETTER TO THE TEXAS CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION, EXPRESSING HIS CONCERNS ABOUT THE NT I'S NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR THE B PROGRAM, WHICH APPEARS TO INDICATE STATES NEED TO PRIORITIZE END TO END FIBER CONNECTIVITY, COMP CONTROLLERS.

MAIN CONCERN WITH THE STIPULATION IS THAT MANY RURAL AREAS OF TEXAS FIBER TECHNOLOGY AND MANY RURAL AREAS OF TEXAS FIBER TECHNOLOGY IS NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE.

FURTHER, THE NTIS NEW RULES RUN COUNTER TO TEXAS'S AND THE I J'S LEGISLATIVE INTENT ON BEING TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL WITH RESPECT TO BROADBAND PROGRAMS.

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WHEREAS THE VARIOUS LISTED FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES HAVE APPROACHING DEADLINES WITH FIVE YEAR STATE PLANS, WHEN FIVE YEAR STATE PLANS MUST BE SUBMITTED FOR FEDERAL FUNDING, AS WELL AS RELATED CITY OF AUSTIN, COORDINATED PLANS FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE TEXAS BDO, WHICH MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS, ILAS AND PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

AND LASTLY, WHEREAS AS STATED IN THE OCTOBER 3RD, 2022, DIGITAL INCLUSION WEEK 2022 PROCLAMATION BY MAYOR STEVE ADLER, THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS COMMITTED TO CONNECTING THE UN UNCONNECTED AND MAKING INVESTMENTS IN PROMOTING DIGITAL EQUITY AND EXPLORING PARTNERSHIPS WITH PRIVATE SECTOR COMPANIES, COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS, RESEARCH AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES TO ADDRESS DIGITAL EQUITY ON A REGIONAL LEVEL.

NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE RESOLVE THAT THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE CITY OF AUSTIN IMMEDIATELY PRIORITIZE THE CREATION OF THE NEW DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN STEERING COMMITTEE.

THE CTT C FURTHER RECOMMENDS THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE SHALL BE COMPRISED OF GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS, EDUCATIONAL, AND RESEARCH ENTITIES CONSISTENT WITH THE 2014 DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN, INCLUDING, BUT NOT ADMITTED, NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING SEA OF AUSTIN DEPARTMENTS, REGIONAL ENTITIES AND PARTNERS, CITY DEPART DEPARTMENTS, LISTED TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS OFFICE, THE INNOVATION OFFICE, THE EQUITY OFFICE, THE ESSENTIAL TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT OFFICE, THE AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY, THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, PUBLIC SAFETY REGIONAL ENTITIES, TRAVIS COUNTY BROADBAND AND DIGITAL EQUITY OFFICE, AUSTIN ENERGY CAP METRO COLLABORATING PARTNERS OR RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS, AUSTIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN HOUSTON TILSON UNIVERSITY, AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE, ST.

EDWARDS UNIVERSITY, THE AUSTIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE MAIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE DELL VALLEY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THE ELMAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UH, THAT'S HOW IT ENDS.

UH, SINCE DRAFTING THIS, I WAS PLEASED TO PARTICIPATE IN A SESSION FOCUSED ON RESILIENCY, UH, WHICH WOULD THEN LEAD ME TO INCLUDE, UH, THAT AS WELL AS A PART, A PRESENTATION FROM, UH, OUR CHIEF HOMELESSNESS STRATEGY OFFICER, UH, DIANA GRAY.

THAT WOULD LEAD ME TO INCLUDE THE RESILIENCY OFFICE IN THE LIST OF CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THE HOMELESSNESS STRATEGY OFFICE IN CITY DEPARTMENTS AS FAR AS MY RECOMMENDATION GOES.

BUT THE HOMEWORK EXERCISE, IN ADDITION TO ADDING TO THE NARRATIVE OR EDITING, UH, THE COPY, UH, WHICH I WANT TO THANK, UH, OUR VICE CHAIR ABU DACA FOR BEING KIND ENOUGH TO DO IN, IN SEVERAL INSTANCES, UH, WAS TO ADD TO THIS LIST.

UH, YOU KNOW, THAT BASICALLY, WE KNOW IT'S NOT LIMITED TO THIS LIST, BUT, UH, WE WANT IT TO BE AS PRESCRIPTIVE PROACTIVELY AS WE CAN WITH THIS LIST IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE KNOW, UH, AND, AND WHO WE KNOW, UH, SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION.

UH, WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO FEEDBACK FOR EDITS, UH, YOU KNOW, GENERAL THOUGHTS ON HOW IT READS, UH, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND YEAH, I WILL JUST START OFF BY POINT, JUST BY THANKING YOU FOR ADDING THE STIPULATION AROUND BEING TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL.

SURE, SURE.

UH, NO PROBLEM.

UH, IT, AGAIN, WE WE'RE TRYING TO, TO BE AS PROACTIVE AS WE CAN.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WE WERE THERE DAY ONE WHEN THE TEXAS VIDEO CAME, WHEN THEY'RE LISTENING TOUR TO AUSTIN, UH, I WANNA SAY FOUR OF US FROM THIS ROOM, OR A CONVERSATION AT LEAST, WERE THERE.

UH, AND FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, UH, WE TRIED TO CONVEY HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO TAKE THAT REGIONAL FOCUS ON, ON AUSTIN, AND KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT AUSTIN IS MORE THAN JUST ONE COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE AUSTIN AREA, UH, REALLY FEEDS FROM SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT AND OUR NEEDS GEOGRAPHICALLY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ENTERTAIN MULTIPLE TECHNOLOGIES AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.

ANY OTHER FEEDBACK? DO YOU, YOU GUYS LIKE IT, DO YOU DISLIKE IT? SOUNDS SO VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

GOOD.

I SEE THUMBS UP AND, AND NODS.

IT'S GORGEOUS.

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WE LOVE IT.

I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING.

I MEAN, I, I'M SORRY.

I, MY, I HAVE A REALLY SHORT ATTENTION SPAN, SO I CAN'T HEAR ALL THAT, BUT I DID READ IT AND, UM, AND I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, SAME HERE.

UH, CHAIR PITS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.

UM, I'VE ALREADY PROVIDED MY EDITS, UM, WANTED TO JUST QUICKLY ASK THE COMMISSION, WE HAVE FOUR INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS AT ONE ON HERE.

AUSTIN MAYNOR, DEL VALLEY ELGIN.

DID WE MISS ANY, YOU KNOW, WE MISSED, SO, VILLE, I Z THEY HAVE SCHOOLS WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND THEY'RE A REGIONAL PARTNER ANYWAY.

UH, WE SHOULD INCLUDE WESTLAKE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL.

WESTLAKE.

HOW ABOUT CEDAR PARK? WE SHOULD INCLUDE CEDAR PARK.

I MEAN, THAT'S ACTUALLY LEANER.

LEANER, ABSOLUTELY.

LANDR AS WELL.

LIKE DEAN.

AND WE SHOULD INCLUDE LAKE TRAVIS.

K I S D LEANDER.

THAT'S A GREAT, UH, CALL OUT BECAUSE THIS AGAIN, CENTERS THE DISCUSSION AROUND THOSE REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AND INTENTIONALITY ABOUT INVOLVING, UH, THESE SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN OUR PLANNING PROCESS, UH, WILL ONLY HELP, I THINK, TO ENCOURAGE THAT.

UM, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED A COUPLE, SO I'M JUST GONNA READ 'EM.

AUSTIN MAYNOR DELAL ELGIN FLUGER, LEANDER LAKE, TRAVIS ROUND ROCK.

A S D CEDAR PARK.

CEDAR PARK.

AND INES AINS IS WHERE? WEST LAKE HIGH SCHOOL IS.

YEP.

E A N E S.

E A N E S.

, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, CPIS, UM, FOR TRANSPORTATION, THERE IS A MULTI-COUNTY, UH, GROUP THAT, UH, THAT, THAT DRIVES THE FUTURE OF TRANSPORTATION.

DO WE NEED SOME GROUP LIKE THAT AT THE MULTICOUNTY LEVEL AS WELL, WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE INCLUDING ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NEARBY.

BUT WHAT ABOUT, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME PROBLEM, RIGHT? RIGHT.

WILLIAMSON COUNTY? YES.

LET ME JUMP IN THERE BECAUSE, UH, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF READING INVOLVED THERE.

UM, THE REGIONAL ENTITIES PIECE CURRENTLY ONLY HAS, AND THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET US GOING.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WANTED THIS TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT ABOUT IT UNDER THE REGIONAL ENTITIES.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE TRAVIS COUNTY BROADBAND DIGITAL, TRAVIS COUNTY BROADBAND AND DIGITAL EQUITY OFFICE.

WE HAVE, AND WE HAVE AUSTIN ENERGY, AND WE HAVE CAP METRO.

SO TO ME, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE THAT GROUP THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING SHOULD GO.

UH, SO IF YOU HAVE A NAME, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT THEM ON HERE.

UH, OTHERWISE WE CAN DO OUR RESEARCH.

BUT YEAH.

DID KITCHEN DOT SCOOP, DID YOU? WELL, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE A SIMILAR GROUP FROM, UH, FROM WILLIAMSTON COUNTY, FOR INSTANCE.

SO, YOU KNOW, SINCE, SINCE AUSTIN SM SMEARS INTO WILLIAMSON COUNTY, UM, MAYBE WE NEED SOME REPRESENTATION OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY AS WELL.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE GROUP OUT THERE.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT.

WELL, UH, WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS A REGIONAL ENTITY.

WE CAN DIAL THAT, WE CAN DRILL DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER, YOU KNOW, AS NEEDED.

UH, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND SAVE WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

UM, BECAUSE WE, I THINK THAT A FAIR, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, THAT REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY OF AUSTIN AND, AND THE WORKERS OF AUSTIN WOULD INCLUDE WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

UH, I WOULD SAY THE SAME FOR, UH, HAYES COUNTY, FRANKLY.

HAYES COUNTY AND BA DROP AND BASTROP COUNTY.

SO, BECAUSE AUSTIN TOUCHES ALL FOUR.

THAT'S RIGHT.

COMMUNITIES, THEN IT'S, IT'S ALL PART OF THE SAME ECOSYSTEM.

SO THAT'S A GREAT CALL OUT IN ADDITION THERE.

SO, SO CHAIR PUTS, WOULD YOU INCLUDE THEN HAYES ISD AND BASTROP ISDS AS WELL, AND MAYBE EVEN CEDAR CREEK? I THINK, OH, I THINK CEDAR CREEK IS IN BASTROP, RIGHT? OR IS, ARE THERE A SEPARATE ISD , SEE THE CREEK? I HAVE TO ADMIT, I'M NOT POSITIVE.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT CAN REALLY HURT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH SCHOOLS, UH, WHERE WORKING FAMILIES, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK IN AUSTIN WHILE THEY SEND THEIR STUDENTS TO SCHOOLS WITHIN THE OUTLYING COUNTIES OR OUTLYING

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IT'S ALL PART OF, OF THAT SAME TABLE, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE THESE PARTNERS AT THE TABLE.

SO, AND AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE SURE TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, WE'RE BEING VERY PRESCRIPTIVE NOW, UH, BUT OUR, OUR STATEMENT DOES SAY INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO.

SO, RIGHT.

SO I, I, I THINK, I THINK IN SEEING THIS CITY COUNCIL'S GONNA GET WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.

I THINK IT'S BE VERY CLEAR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE WANT, .

I THINK.

SO WE WANT SOME COMPREHENSIVE COLLABORATION ON THIS, UM, JUST LIKE WE HAD BEFORE, BUT, UH, MORE FOR THE MOMENT, WHICH IS BIGGER.

WELL, THESE ARE GREAT ADDITIONS.

UM, ONE OTHER SMALL CHANGE.

SO WE HAVE UNDER THE BUCKET OF ALL THE EDUCATIONAL INSTITU INSTITUTIONS, WE NAME THEM AS COLLABORATING PARTNERS.

WHY DON'T WE JUST CALL THEM EDUCATIONAL? YEAH, THEY'RE ALL EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.

UH, YOU MIGHT PUT, UH, SINCE WE DO KNOW, UH, UT IS ALSO A RESEARCH PARTNER, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND, AND SAY RESEARCH AND EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS, OR EDUCATIONAL AND RESEARCH PARTNERS MM-HMM.

, UH, CUZ ALL THE UNIVERSITIES ARE ESSENTIALLY RESEARCH PARTNERS.

HOW DOES THE REST OF THE COMMISSION FEEL ABOUT THAT? YOU GUYS FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT? YES.

WELL, UH, WITH THAT LAST, UH, CHANGE, THEN, UH, BASED ON THE NODDING CONSENSUS THAT I SEE, I, I'D LIKE TO MOVE, UH, THAT WE VOTE TO APPROVE, UH, THIS RESOLUTION, UH, AS LASTLY EDITED, AND I'LL LOOK FOR A SECOND, UH, BEFORE WE HOLD A VOTE, I'LL SECOND.

I WILL SECOND.

WE GOT THAT.

UH, I HAD THE FIRST SECOND, MY VICE TO APA DACA, BUT I APPRECIATE THE CLOSE, THE CLOSE.

UH, UH, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSION.

GAR, I'M BLAME IT ON MY LOW SPEED INTERNET.

I LIVE IN FRONT .

WELL, WE'LL CALL IT A TIE THEN.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL LET BUT BA WITH, CALL IT A TIE.

UH, BUT WITH THAT, THEN WE CAN HOLD A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING, UH, THE RESOLUTION FOR THE DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE, SAY I, AND SHOW YOUR HAND.

I, AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY.

WERE UNANIMOUS IN OUR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION, IT IS PASSED.

UH, JEFF PIT, MAY I MAKE A REQUEST THAT AFTER IT, UH, ALL EDITED AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FINALIZED THAT YOU SEND A COPY TO ALL OF US.

I MEAN, JESSE SENDS A COPY TO ALL OF US.

SURE, SURE.

NOT ONLY THAT, UH, ONE WILL BE ADDED TO THE PERMANENT RECORD HERE FOR OUR MEETING.

UH, YES.

SINCE IT'S BEEN OFFICIALLY VOTED ON AND APPROVED.

SO YOU'LL DEFINITELY GET A COPY.

THE INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE RESOLUTION, DISCUSSION AND ACTION.

THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.

UH, NOW TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM HERE.

AGENDA ITEM SEVEN,

[7. Intelligent Infrastructure Resolution]

UH, BASED UPON OUR AGREEMENT, UH, THAT WE AGREED TO HAVE.

NOW THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE, UM, WE HAD A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION IN OUR, THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND INNOVATION WORKING GROUP ABOUT THIS.

UM, AS YOU ALL MAY RECALL, IN OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING, UH, I WAS STRUCK BY, UH, THE ROLE OF OUR 2016 CITIZENS, UH, IN OUR 2018, UH, VOTING CITIZENS, UH, IN IMPROVING THE 2018 BOND MEASURE.

AND THINKING ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THAT MEANT IN TERMS OF, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INTEGRATED PLANNING, UH, AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE.

WITH THIS BEING OUR SOLE RESOLUTION FOCUSED ON INFRASTRUCTURE, IT, IT NATURALLY CAME UP IN THAT DISCUSSION.

WHAT, WHAT QUICKLY, UH, BECAME CLEAR, IT WAS THAT WE EFFECTIVELY HAD MULTIPLE RESOLUTIONS KIND OF BAKED INTO ONE.

AND SO WE NEEDED TO FIND A WAY TO DISTILL THAT AND TO SIMPLIFY BASED UPON THE GOALS OF EACH RESOLUTION.

SO, AS A RESULT, UH, AND I, AND I, I TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE, UH, COMMISSIONER FLOYD, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF, UH, THAT WORKING GROUP, COULDN'T JOIN US TODAY.

UH, AND, UM, I, I DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE NOTES PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

SO I WANT TO GET COMMISSIONER, UH, YATES, UH, WHO I KNOW TOOK NOTES AS WELL FROM THE MEETING TO LEVEL SET ON THIS, BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE AGREED, AND I'VE ALREADY GOT ONE DRAFT,

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THEN TWO OR THREE SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS.

ONE SIMPLY FOCUSED ON INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AND ENCOURAGING THE CITY TO EVALUATE THE CONCEPT AND TECHNOLOGIES IN LIGHT OF THE APPLICATIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, FOR TRANSPORTATION, FOR, UH, FOR DIGITAL EQUITY, FRANKLY.

AND EXTENDING BROADBAND, UH, HIGHER SPEED TO THE HOME AND WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES AND, AND FRANKLY, AND, AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF OUR EVALUATION, PRELIMINARILY OF INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ADVANCED SERVICES REPRESENTED BY THE PUBLIC INFORMATION NETWORK NODE OR PEN, ALTHOUGH DID NOT SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT UNIQUELY, BUT MERELY THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN EVALUATION OF THAT.

THAT WAS ONE RESOLUTION.

THE NEXT RESOLUTION WE CAME TO, UH, WAS IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE BOND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENTS, UH, UH, PROPOSITIONS A THROUGH G, UH, INTO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT IMPORTANT, UH, EITHER DEPARTMENTS AND OR ASPECTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND YET, UH, HOW THAT EFFORT INCLUDED THE CREATION OF A CITIZEN LED ADVISORY BOARD, UH, THAT QUICKLY RESULTED IN AN OUTCOME.

WELL QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW BETWEEN TOOK TWO YEARS, BUT FROM 2016 TO BEGINNING THAT ADVISORY BOARD, TO THEN HAVING A PAST BOND PROPOSITION TWO YEARS LATER FOR 925 MILLION SHOWS THAT A LOT OF WORK CAN BE DONE IF THE RIGHT PEOPLE COME TOGETHER AT THE RIGHT TIME.

RIGHT? SO, WHAT BECAME CLEAR IS THOUGH, UH, AS THOUGH WE NEEDED TO ENCOURAGE, AND NOW I KNOW IT WAS, NOW REMEMBER, IT WAS THREE .

WE NEEDED TO ENCOURAGE, UH, THE CITY TO EVALUATE OUR EXISTING BONDS FOR OPPORTUNITIES IN LIGHT OF OUR PLANS AND FORTHCOMING PLANS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEN THIRDLY, IT JUST MADE PERFECT SENSE TO SQUARELY ADDRESS THEM SIMPLY ON ANY CURRENT PLANS TO DISRUPT OUR CITY, UH, FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, TO THEN LEVERAGE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, ANY, ANY SUBTERRANEAN, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WOULD RESULT IN THE CITY BEING TORN UP, THAT WE HAVE A MANAGEMENT TEAM OR A GROUP WITH MULTI DEPARTMENTS, UH, THAT WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE EVALUATING THAT OPPORTUNITY, THAT KEY OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, LAYING SHARED CONDUIT OR SHARED TELECOMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COULD BE LEVERAGED BY MULTIPLE CARRIERS WITHIN THE CITY.

SO, AGAIN, INITIAL DISCUSSION ABOUT ONE AND HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT WITH JUST ONE, UH, ONE RESOLUTION RESULTED IN THREE RESOLUTIONS.

SO I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT ALL THREE OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS ARE NOT DRAFTED.

UH, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF, UH, OF DRAFTS THAT WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT TODAY.

AND I'D LIKE TO LEVEL SET THAT WITH, WITH YOU COMMISSIONER YATES.

DOES THAT SOUND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT, UH, YOUR NOTES SHOW THAT WE AGREED TO? OKAY.

UM, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD WAS THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RESOLUTION ON, UH, A STUDY OF INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS PINS, UM, AND THE AUTONOMY INSTITUTE HAD KIND OF PROMPTED THIS, BUT WE WANTED TO STAY AWAY FROM ADVOCATING FOR ANY ONE GROUP OR ONE TECHNOLOGY, BUT THERE NEEDED TO BE A STUDY TO SAY, WHAT IN, UH, INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE DO WE NEED IN THE FUTURE FOR SMART CITIES? SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE.

UM, THE SECOND NEXT THERE WAS ABOUT THE, THE MOBILITY BOND AND EVALUATING THEM FOR ANY OPPORTUNITIES, UH, IN, UH, IN LIKE THE, UH, PROJECT CONNECT THE CORRIDOR PLANS.

AND WHICH KIND OF LED INTO THAT THIRD ONE, WHICH WAS

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ANYTIME THERE WAS GOING TO BE STREETS TORN UP, THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, SHARED CONDUIT TO BE LAID, AND WE SHOULD, UH, EVALUATE THESE SITUATIONS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I SAW.

UH, I DO WANT TO, UH, MAKE SURE TO, UH, CIRCLE BACK ON THAT BECAUSE THE MENTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION BOND OR PROJECT CONNECT, UH, BROUGHT LIGHT TO THE OTHER BONDS WHERE THEY WOULD ALSO LIKELY BE, UH, MAKING INVESTMENTS INTO INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? NOT JUST ON, ON, ON THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, BUT ALSO WITHIN HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, PARKS AND REC.

UH, SO LITERALLY EVERY BOND SEEMED TO, UH, PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY, VERY MUCH LIKE PROJECT CONNECT, ALTHOUGH DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT TOPICALLY DIFFERENT, BUT THE SAME TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPACTING TELECOMMUNICATIONS STRUCTURE AND TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? SO, BY EXAMPLE, AS A LOOK AT THE, UH, LET'S JUST START WITH THE BOND, UH, TWO PAGER, RIGHT? AFFORDABLE HOUSING, 250 MILLION, AND WE CAN REST ASSURED THAT, UH, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WILL NEED TO IN FACTOR IN TECHNOLOGY, IN TELECOM, UH, IN FACT, RIGHT? SOME OF OUR, OUR CURRENT, UH, HAKA PROPERTIES ARE SOME OF THE MOST CHALLENGED BASED UPON, UH, THEIR INSTRUCTION, THEIR CONSTRUCTION DYNAMICS, AND THEIR LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UH, AND THAT'S NOWHERE NEAR MOBILITY CORRIDOR, UH, THE LIBRARIES, MUSEUMS AND CULTURAL FACILITIES, 128 MILLION.

UH, I HAD THE, THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH FELLOW DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONERS, UH, THAT INCLUDED, UH, A COMMISSIONER FOR, UH, DISTRICT ONE, UH, FOR THE ASIAN AMERICAN RESOURCE COUNCIL, UH, THE CHAIR.

AND THEY HAPPENED TO HAVE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR, UH, BOND APPROVAL FOR INVESTMENT IN THE A ARC, WHICH AS WE KNOW, UH, WE'VE BEEN, UH, WE'VE ALREADY HAVE A DATE RESERVED TO DO A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THERE FOR, FOR TOWN HALL LISTENING.

UH, RIGHT.

SO IMAGINING, YOU KNOW, AS IN TALKING WITH, UH, THE CHAIR, UH, IT WAS CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FOCUSED MORE ON, THEY WERE MORE FOCUSED ON, UH, CULTURAL ARTS AND NOT NECESSARILY TECHNOLOGY, BUT, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON THE LOCATION OF THAT FACILITY, BASED UPON, UH, THE AMOUNT OF THE INVESTMENT.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE WITH SOME COORDINATED PLANNING TO, TO SEIZE THAT MOMENT TO DO MORE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE SAME AGAIN, APPLIES TO PARKS AND REC, 149 MILLION, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY, 38 MILLION HU HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, UH, LOWER AMOUNT, 16 MILLION.

BUT AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, 160 MILLION, UH, FOR TRANSPORTATION.

SO, IRONICALLY, UH, THE, THE PRODUCT CONNECT, ALTHOUGH, UH, THAT BOND PROPOSITION, UH, IS, IS LARGE, UH, FOR THE 2018, UH, BOND PROPOSITIONS, IT'S ACTUALLY THE, THE, THE SECOND LARGEST, UH, WELL, NO, THE THIRD LARGEST , UH, BECAUSE AHEAD OF THAT ONE IS FLOOD MITIGATION, OPEN SPACE AND WATER QUALITY PROTECTION.

UH, WHICH AGAIN, BASED UPON WHAT I KNOW TO BE THE FLOOD PLAINS AND, AND, AND THE LOW LYING AREAS IN THIS TOWN, WE'RE ALSO SEEING SOME SYNCHRONICITY THERE, UH, RIGHT.

BETWEEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND CHALLENGES FOR DEVELOPMENT.

UH, RIGHT.

SO AGAIN, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WITH COORDINATION TO SEIZE THAT MOMENT FOR, UH, COORDINATED PLANNING.

UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO POINT THAT OUT, UH, AND THEN PIVOT, UH, HERE QUICKLY TO, UH, THE DRAFT THAT I HAVE FOR ONE OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS.

UH, BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE, UH, COMMISSIONER DOTA A CHANCE TO WIN.

CHAIR, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2018 BOND.

I, I WAS PERSONALLY VERY INVOLVED IN IT, PARTICULARLY I CHAIR THE TRANSPORTATION

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WORKING GROUP.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAKEUP OF THE TRANSPORTATION BOND PART OF IT, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH SIGNAL IMPROVEMENT AND, UH, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT, ET CETERA.

THE BOND, I THINK IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT CAPITALIZING ON THE DIGGING OF STREETS, ET CETERA, WHERE YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, HERE'S A PRIME OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LAY DOWN, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TRENCHES WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CONDUITS CAN GO IN, ET CETERA.

THE 2016 BOND MAY BE AN EVEN GREATER TARGET, BECAUSE THAT IS COMPLETELY ON TRANSPORTATION.

SO IF YOU'RE GONNA BE REFERRING TO A PARTICULAR BOND PACKAGE, I THINK THE 2016 BOND IS A MUCH BETTER TARGET AS WELL.

THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET INTO IT THEN.

UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, WITH THIS ONE RESOLUTION, UH, I, I'VE PHRASED IT, THE COORDINATED SUBTERRANEAN PLANNING RESOLUTION, UM, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT I THREW OUT THERE.

SO IF ANYONE HAS A BETTER, UH, TITLE FOR IT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

UM, BUT IT, IT BEGINS, UH, SIMILARLY, UH, TO, UH, OUR EARLIER RESOLUTION, UH, WHEREAS OUR STATED VISION FOR AUSTIN IS TO BE A BEACON OF SUSTAINABILITY, SOCIAL EQUITY, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WHERE DIVERSITY, CREATIVITY CELEBRATED.

UM, I FEEL AS THOUGH, UM, WE NEED, UH, TO ADD A WHEREAS STATEMENT AROUND, UM, ECONOMIC COST, UH, RIGHT.

THAT A KEY PART OF THIS NARRATIVE IS THE EXPENSE THAT WE BEAR EVERY TIME THE STREET, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS TO GET TORN UP FOR, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF TECH, TELECOMMUNICATIONS, UH, INVESTMENTS.

, RIGHT? I, I, I FEEL AS THOUGH, AGAIN, WE'RE IN A DRAFT PHASE.

WE MAY NOT ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS TODAY, BUT WE'LL JUST GET IT OUT AS A POINT OF DISCUSSION.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS THE 2006, IN 2016, THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL FORMED A CITIZEN LED BOND ELECTION ADVISOR TASK FORCE, IDENTIFY, STUDY, PRIORITIZE, AND PROPOSE VARIOUS PROJECTS FOR CONSIDERATION, A BOND FUNDING, WHICH INCLUDED INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WE COULD EVEN ADD, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS IN 2016, THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL FUNDED A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BOND PROPOSITION, UH, FOR PROJECT CONNECT, UH, AND ADD THAT THERE, UH, NOT PROJECT CONNECT, IT WAS JUST TRANSPORTATION, OH, I'M SORRY, FOR, FOR TRANSPORTATION, RIGHT.

PROJECT CONNECT WAS, UH, WAS, UH, UH, WAS THE G ONE, UH, OR NO, THAT'S 2020.

WELL, IT'S 2020, RIGHT? OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

WHEREAS THE FINDINGS OF THE TASK FORCE LED TO THE NOVEMBER 6TH, 2018 BOND ELECTION APPROVAL OF BOND PROPOSITIONS, A, B D E, F, AND G VALUED AT 925 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LIBRARIES, MUSEUMS, CULTURAL, UH, ARTS FACILITIES, PARKS AND RECREATION, FLOOD MITIGATION, YOU KNOW, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AGAIN, WE NEED MORE MEAT TO THIS ON THE NARRATIVE, BUT IT GOES TO THEN THE NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED AT THE, AND THIS IS, UH, PRIMARILY NARRATIVE PROVIDED BY COMMISSIONER DOTA WITH SOME EDITS FROM MYSELF, WHEREAS, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, NOW, THEREFORE BE RESOLVED AT THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO APPOINT A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM OF CITY LEADERS AND EMPLOYEES FROM ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS, EG.

HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, ET CETERA, TO CONDUCT AN ANALYSIS OF ALL CURRENTLY PLANNED CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TO DETERMINE THE BEST MEANS IN PLANS TO INSTALL NECESSARY SUBTERRANEAN AND SURFACE INFRASTRUCTURE, EG CHANNELS, DUCKS AND CONDUITS DURING THE EXECUTION OF APPROPRIATE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT CELLULAR AND BROADBAND SERVICE PROVIDERS MAY UTILIZE IN A PROPRIETARY MANNER, PROVIDE BEST IN CLASS SERVICE TO ALL RESIDENTS IN AUSTIN.

CAUSE I'M TIGHT.

BLESS YOU.

UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT START.

YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE GOT SOME MEAT TO PUT IN, UH, ON, ON THE BONE THERE AROUND THE NARRATIVE, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT START.

ANY THOUGHT OF FEEDBACKS ON THAT? I SEE SOME NODDING .

YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT START AS WELL.

UH, DID YOU SAY THE PLAN IS TO NOT VOTE ON THIS ONE? RIGHT? WELL, I THINK THAT, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE TIMELINE, UH, THAT WE'D HAVE TO PUT MORE, UM, YEAH, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL JUST TO ALLOW FOR MORE EDITING.

AND, AND JUST RELATE TO THIS ONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, BUT WITH THIS SHELL, I THINK WE'VE GOT WHAT IT TAKES IS THEN HAVE A REAL FINAL DRAFT FOR BY OUR NEXT MEETING.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE POISED FOR THAT.

IS EVERYONE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT START? VERY GOOD START.

COMMISSIONER YATES, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT APPROACH? AND, UH,

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WE'RE GONNA DELVE INTO THE OTHER TWO HERE SHORTLY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEND OUT THAT DRAFT AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT FOR, FOR NEXT TIME? EXACTLY.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

IN FACT, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THIS, UH, WELL, WELL, WE NEED TO, THIS ONE IS KIND OF A, IT WAS BORN OUT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING GROUP, SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A SUITABLE PLACE FOR IT TO REMAIN, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE IN A LOT OF THE FACT THAT COMMISSIONER DOTA SERVED ON THE BOND ADVISORY BOARD, YOU KNOW, THIS VARIETY OF REASONS.

SO UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY ISSUES WITH THAT, UH, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LEAVE IT WITHIN THAT WORKING GROUP, WE'LL DISCUSS THE DRAFT AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL, AND THEN, LIKE WE DID THIS TIME, AFTER THAT DISCUSSION, WE'LL THEN HAVE JESSE SEND OUT THAT DRAFT TO EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON.

AND THEN WE'LL COME TOGETHER AT OUR NEXT MEETING, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GET IT APPROVED.

THAT SOUND GOOD? SOUNDS GOOD.

SO WITH THAT, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.

UM, SO INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST.

SO NOW THEN TO THE OTHER TWO.

UH, I, I'D SAY THIS ONE IS IN A SIMILAR STATE, UH, IN THAT IT NEEDS SOME FINE TUNING, ALTHOUGH WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE TODAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS I SAY THAT, I KNOW THAT I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE, WE NOT DO IT TODAY.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE, UM, DURING OUR LAST MEETING, WE RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT, UH, NEW SERVICES BEING EVALUATED FOR, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY APPLICATIONS, A NEW WIRELESS SERVICE BEING, UH, EVALUATED.

AND WHAT THAT PRESENTED WAS A NEED TO LEARN MORE, UH, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

IN PARTICULAR, A NEED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, THIS WAS BY, BY VIRTUE OF, UH, CONTACT SHARE FROM MEDELA HAWKINS, OUR OFFICER FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS.

WELL, AFTER THAT SHARE, WE WERE THEN, UH, I WAS IN, CONTACTED DIRECTLY, UM, FIRST WITH AGREEMENT TO JOIN OUR WORKING GROUP DISCUSSION, OUR NEXT ONE ABOUT THAT.

BUT THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, UH, A RESPONSE FROM LEADERSHIP REGARDING THAT.

UH, IN PARTICULAR FROM, UH, SHARIF, WASHINGTON, UH, DR.

SHARIF WASHINGTON, UH, THE, UH, DCI FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SUPPORT.

UH, HE'S ACTUALLY OVER THE WIRELESS, UH, DIVISION AND, AND WAS GLAD THAT RUND WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE AN INTRODUCTION.

UH, AND HE'S ACTUALLY SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH RUND TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION, UH, ABOUT THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE.

SO, UH, WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT INSIGHT, I THINK, AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL.

UM, AND, AND THEN HELPING TO SHAPE OUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE OF, OF, OF THIS RESOLUTION.

BUT YOU KNOW, BE THAT AS IT MAY.

I I, I DO FEEL OBLIGED TO, UH, SPEAK TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW, UH, TO A SMALL DEGREE.

AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE CONDENSED HERE ON TIME, BUT I WANT, I WANT YOU GUYS TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THIS.

WHEREAS THE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT OF THE DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN BY CITY COUNCIL, UH, TARA AND THE CTC TT C T, AND THE, AND DECA HAS IN A FIVE THE NEED, UH, THE DIGITAL DIVIDE AND HISTORICALLY ROOTED CHALLENGE TO OUR STATED, UH, VISION.

UH, LIKE I FEEL AS THOUGH THAT, UH, PARAGRAPH NEEDS TO BE DIFFERENT.

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE IS, UH, THAT IT WILL REQUIRE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT IN BOTH PHYSICAL AND DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO BRIDGE, UM, AGAIN, MAKING NOTE OF THE FACT THAT THE TASK FORCE WAS INVOLVED, UH, CITIZEN LED, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT PIECE TALKS ABOUT THE FUNDING, AND THEN IT GETS MORE TOPICAL, WHEREAS THE CT TC ANTICIPATES THE COMP CONTROLLER'S CONCERNS ABOVE.

AND THIS IS THE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, UH, AS COMMISSIONER GARZA MENTIONED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL PROJECTS.

WHEREAS THE CTC, UH, ANTICIPATES THE CONTROLLER CONCERNS ABOVE, WILL LIKELY REQUIRE THE CONSIDERATION OF A VARIETY OF BROADBAND TECHNOLOGIES THAT

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WILL INCLUDE FIXED WIRELESS, 5G, SMALL CELL SELL.

I'LL ADD SATELLITE AND OTHER DATA INTENSIVE SOLUTIONS BESIDES FIBER TECHNOLOGY.

WHEREAS THE CTT C WAS INVOLVED IN A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION OF 5G INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS, EG.

PUBLIC INFORMATION NETWORK NODES, PENS THAT LEVERAGE PLUG AND PLAY A PLUG, A PLUG AND PLAY MODEL CONDUCIVE FOR MORE EFFECTIVE POLE INSTALLATION BY MULTIPLE CARRIERS, AND COULD POTENTIALLY ENABLE SHARED CONDUIT OR ALTER ALTERNATIVE EDGE COMPUTING RESOURCE USAGE.

WHEREAS STANDARDS PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN ENSURING OPENNESS AND COMPETITION.

C CTC RECOMMENDS THE ADOPTION OF APPROPRIATE STANDARDS IMPLEMENTATION IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF PROPAGATION OF 5G SOLUTIONS IN CELLULAR AND BROADBAND SERVICE, ET CETERA, TO ENSURE EVERY RESIDENT OF AUSTIN IS OFFERED FREEDOM OF CHOICE OF CARRIERS ACCEPTABLE PRICES.

UH, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT, I, I, I FACTORED IN OTHER COMMISSIONERS BULLET POINTS THERE, AND I, UH, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GIVING THE COMMISSION OF CREDIT THAT, THAT MADE THAT ADDITION.

I, 5G IS STILL A NASCENT THAT IN A NASCENT STAGE OF ADOPTION, UH, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS FROM COMMISSION YATES, UH, BUT I COULD BE WRONG, YATES OR COMMISSIONER DOTA, UH, THE CTC RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN CONDUCTS A THOROUGH EVALUATION OF AVAILABLE SOLUTIONS AND PARTNERSHIP WITH RELEVANT ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES TO ENSURE THE SELECTED APPROACH PROVIDES OPTIMAL SOLUTIONS BASED ON STANDARDS TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF DOMESTIC ENTERPRISE RESEARCH GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING SECURITY.

SO, AGAIN, THIS IS STILL IN KIND OF A DRAFT MODE, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

, ANY OTHER FEEDBACK OR THOUGHTS ON THIS NOW, UH, BEFORE WE TAKE THIS BACK TO THE WORKING GROUP TO FINISH IT? THE ONLY THING THAT I DID, I'D WANNA MENTION, YOU KNOW, IN THE RESOLVED STATEMENT THAT THE, THE CTC RECOMMENDS THAT THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL FORM AN INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE, 5G INTEGRATED SERVICES OR TBD, NAMED ADVISORY TASK FORCE TO IDENTIFY, STUDY AND PRIORITIZE THOSE PROPOSED SHOVEL READY PROJECTS TO PROVIDE TO THE NT.

I, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE, UH, STATEMENT FOR THIS RESOLUTION.

UH, SO AGAIN, THIS IS STILL ON THE DRAWING BOARD, RIGHT? I, I LIKE THE, UH, IN FACT, I NOW FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WAS JUST BASICALLY, UH, LEFT OVER FROM ME COPYING AND PASTING THE SHELL OF A PRIOR RESOLUTION.

SO I'M DELETING THIS PIECE, AND THEN WHAT I SHARE WILL BE WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.

SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE, AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE GOT, UH, PROGRESS AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO GET THIS FINALIZED.

AND THE UPSIDE OF THAT IS WE'LL HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS AN ADDITIONAL COMMISSION MEMBER TO ADD THEIR SUPPORT TO THIS RESOLUTION, I THINK BASED UPON OUR CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH COMMISSIONER FLOYD, WHO'S BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EFFORT.

AND SO THAT WOULD ROUND OUT THE SUPPORT TO BEING EIGHT ZERO.

SO THERE'S ALSO VALUE IN WAITING FOR THIS ONE.

SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, I THINK WE'VE COVERED IT, AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND, AND MOVE FORWARD IN OUR AGENDA COMMISSION.

YATES, DID YOU WANNA IN? NO, I THINK THAT'S A WISE IDEA THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THIS BACK TO THE WORKING GROUP.

NOW PROCEEDING IN OUR AGENDA THEN.

UH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, UH, JESSE, PLEASE.

JUST TO, I, I HATE TO CIRCLE BACK, BUT I I DID HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON ITEM SIX.

UM, OKAY.

JUST A PROCESS QUESTION AS TO THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION.

UM, THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTOOD THE, THE MOTION THAT WAS PASSED WAS THAT IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION, UM, AND JUST FOR THE NEWER COMMISSIONERS WEREN'T AS FAMILIAR.

WE'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN IN THE PAST WHERE OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS PASSED, UH, BUT THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT IT WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS DON'T, DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

THEY'RE LOGGED AS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMISSION.

IT DOESN'T SPUR ANY REQUIRED ACTION.

UM, IF THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION IS TO HAVE THIS GO-TO CITY COUNCIL, IT NEEDS TO BE PASSED AS A, A COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST TO BE PLACED ON A COUNCIL COMMITTEE

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AGENDA.

UH, SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION.

WAS IT TO PASS A RECOMMENDATION OR A COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST? UH, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT, UH, BASED ON, UH, THE LANGUAGE, AND IT WAS FOR, UH, A COUNCIL AGENDA REQUEST, COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST, BECAUSE WE, WE FEEL AS THOUGH THE STEERING COMMITTEE NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IT NEEDS TO BE, THAT PROCESS NEEDS TO START AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, EVEN IF WE DON'T BEGIN, UH, MORE FORMAL, UH, STRATEGIC PLANNING, UH, OR THAT, OR RATHER, THE MORE FORMAL STREAMING, UH, STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS EXPANDS, WE FEEL AS THOUGH THE, THE STEERING COMMITTEE SELECTION PROCESS SHOULD BEGIN.

UNDERSTOOD.

I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE ON THE RECORD IN CASE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ANY QUESTION THAT THAT WAS THE INTENT, SO.

AND I WANNA MAKE SURE, CAUSE I'M SEEING NODS HERE IN THE ROOM, UH, FOR I KNOW, I KNOW.

IT'S, IT'S TOUGH WHEN WE'RE GETTING, UH, MOVING ALONG IN OUR AGENDA HERE.

UH, IS IT CLEAR THAT WE ALL AGREE THAT WE WANT THIS TO ACTUALLY GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON THE, ON THE DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN? OKAY, GREAT.

YES.

VERY IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, JESSE.

GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA VERY QUICKLY NOW TO THE DIGITAL INCLUSION, UH, TOWN HALL LISTENING SESSION PLANNING.

SO NOW LET'S

[8. Digital Inclusion Town Hall Listening Session Planning]

SO, UH, AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE AGREED AS A COMMISSION TO CONTINUE OUR, A TRADITION ESTABLISHED IN 2019 OF, OF GARNERING LIVED EXPERIENCES FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THEN EVOLVED INTO A FORMAT WHERE WE ENGAGE PUBLICLY WITHIN, UH, COMMUNITY SPACES TO DO SO, AND A PARTNERSHIP WE'VE ESTABLISHED WITH AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY, HAVING DONE TWO IN THAT SPECIFIC FORMAT TO THEN DO MORE AND TO DO, UH, ONE THIS FALL IN PARTICULAR WITH THAT LIBRARY FORMAT.

WELL, THAT PROCESS HAS EVOLVED HANDSOMELY.

UH, WE HAD OUR FIRST PLANNING MEETING LAST THURSDAY, WHICH IS WELL RECEIVED AND ATTENDED, UH, AND WE GOT CONFIRMATION OF SEVERAL THINGS, AND INCLUDING, UH, SERENDIPITOUS, I'D SAY, UH, GUIDANCE, UH, BASED UPON EARLIER MEETINGS WITH OTHER CITY LEADERS THAT WE HAD ABOUT SOME BEST, UH, APPROACHES FOR RECRUITMENT.

SO, TO BE SPECIFIC, UH, IN OUR DIGITAL INCLUSION, STRATEGIC, UH, OUR DIGITAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP MEETING, UH, WE WERE VISITED BY THE CHIEF HOMELESSNESS STRATEGY OFFICER, DIANA GRAY, UH, WHICH WAS SCHEDULED, UH, PRIOR, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON OUR GOALS AS A COMMISSION, TO FIND A WAY TO SERVICE, UH, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO REALLY PROVIDE SERVICES FOR SOME OF OUR MOST, UH, IMPACTED CITIZENS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, EXPERIENCING IN THE DIGITAL DIVIDE, THOSE BEING PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO, AS WE WERE IDEATING ON POSSIBILITIES TO, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THAT OFFICE AND TO LEARN WHAT THE CITY'S DOING TO GET THEIR INSIGHTS ON, ON, ON WHAT WAS WORKING AND, AND WHAT, UH, PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WERE ASKING FOR AND WHAT THEY NEEDED.

WE GOT, WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION AND HAD, UH, GREAT INSIGHTS, UH, INTO A LOT OF THINGS, WHICH WERE GOING TO BRIEFLY DURING THAT PORTION OF THE WORKING GROUP DISCUSSION.

BUT WHAT IT LED TO WAS THE INTRODUCTION OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT KEY RESOURCES, UH, CHARLES LOOSEN IN PARTICULAR, UH, WHO DIRECTLY PARTICIPATED IN THE PLANNING SESSION.

AND, UH, SHE, AFTER THE INVITATION FROM, UH, TO DYNA GRAY, UH, SHE THEN, UH, PASSED THAT ON TO CHARLES, AND HE WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO ATTEND AND PROVIDE GREAT INSIGHTS.

UH, IN PARTICULAR, HE STRONGLY SUGGESTED, UH, THAT WE FIND A WAY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE APPROACHING AUSTIN HOMELESSNESS ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING, TAKING PLACE THIS PAST MONDAY AT COMMUNITY COURT.

UH, I LOVED THE IDEA.

I, I THEN MADE A POINT, UH, TO DO JUST THAT.

UH, AND AT THE TIME, UH, I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING TO, UH, BOTH MEET THE MANAGING BRANCH LIBRARIAN AT THE TERRAZA BRANCH LOCATION, AND TO, TO THEN FURTHER CLARIFY.

UH, WE HAVE AGREED THEN, BASED UPON OUR PLANNING RIGHT, TO HOST OUR NEXT TOWN HALL ON OCTOBER 29TH FROM 10 TO TWO AT THE TERRAZAS BRANCH LIBRARY.

UH, WE'VE GOTTEN CONFIRMATION FROM, UH, GOODWILL AND FROM AUSTIN FREENET TO TABLE FOR RESOURCES.

UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT SOME LOGISTICS ON PROVIDING LUNCH FOR OUR GROUP, UH, BUT I FEEL CONFIDENT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THAT CHALLENGE, AND IT THEN CENTERED THE CONVERSATION AROUND RECRUITMENT.

WELL, BECAUSE OF THE INTRODUCTION FROM CHARLES, BECAUSE OF

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THAT SUGGESTION AND THE FOLLOW UP, UH, I WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE TERRAZA BRANCH LIBRARY AND MEET DIRECTLY WITH DANNY WALKER, UH, THE, THE MANAGING LIBRARIAN THERE, AND TO CONFIRM THEIR SUPPORT FOR HOSTING, ALTHOUGH THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO JOIN OUR MEETING LAST THURSDAY, CONFIRM FACE TO FACE, UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT TO, TO NOTE THAT IN OUR MEETING LAST THURSDAY, THAT THE, THE MANAGING LIBRARIAN AT THE RUIZ BRANCH WAS ON THE CALL, AND THEY DID SHOW SUPPORT FOR A FUTURE ENGAGEMENT AT THEIR LIBRARY.

SO WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO SCHEDULING THAT IN THE FUTURE AT THE RE BRANCH.

AND, UM, AND I MAY MENTION AT THAT TIME OF COMMISSIONER YATES'S SHARE, UH, WITH ME OF KEY CONTACTS, UH, WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, UH, AT APARTMENT MANAGERS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE AS MANY OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WHICH USED TO BE PRIMARILY STUDENT HOUSING, IS NOW PRIMARILY WORKING FAMILIES WITHIN THOSE APARTMENTS, UH, THAT ARE WITHIN, SQUARELY WITHIN, UH, THE POPULATION GROUP THAT IS AFFECTED BY DIGITAL INCLUSION MATTERS, UH, THAT CAN BENEFIT FROM THESE RESOURCES.

SO, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

NOW, BACKING UP TO THE CONVERSATION WITH, UH, TERRAZAS BRANCH FULL SUPPORT, AND THEN, UH, GOT A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE DIGITAL NAVIGATOR THERE, UH, ZACH, UH, SLAUGHTER, UH, WHO ALREADY HAD SOMEONE IN MIND THAT WOULD JOIN THE CONVERSATION.

I WAS THERE IN THE WRONG LOCATION.

THEY'RE MINUTES FOR THE, UH, THE, RATHER THE BYLAWS, UH, THE CURRENT BYLAWS WITHIN THE SYSTEM FOR THE AUSTIN HOMELESSNESS ADVISORY COUNCIL STATE.

THEY WOULD MEET AT TERRAZAS BRANCH, UH, ON THE SECOND, UH, AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

WELL, I FIND OUT THERE THAT THEY HADN'T MET THERE IN SEVERAL YEARS, THAT THEY, THAT THEY WERE AT COMMUNITY COURT, AND THEN IT BECAME A SCRAMBLE.

BUT I WAS ABLE TO GET OVER TO COMMUNITY COURT JUST IN TIME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND TO SPEAK BEFORE, UH, THAT ADVISORY COUNCIL, AND IT WAS GRACIOUSLY RECEIVED, UH, BASICALLY GOT UNANIMOUS, UH, ACCEPTANCE AND, UH, UH, BASICALLY SIGN UP FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHICH ALREADY GOT US TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE EIGHT OR NINE.

UH, AND COMMITMENT TO THEN DO ADDITIONAL RECRUITMENT, UH, WITHIN THAT GROUP, UH, THROUGH COORDINATION FROM, UH, LAURA WILLIAMSON, UH, WHO WAS WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON, WAS WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON.

AND, UH, PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN COORDINATING AS THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THAT COUNCIL, UH, VERY MUCH LIKE JESSE DOES FOR US.

SO SHE'S GONNA BE THE POINT CONTACT FOR COMMUNICATIONS TO THAT GROUP FOR RECRUITMENT.

ALSO, WE GAINED THE SUPPORT OF THAT COUNCIL TO TABLE AT THE EVENT.

SO IN ADDITION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A THIRD RESOURCE FOCUSED ON THE POPULATION WHO'LL BE ATTENDING AND SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THE COUNCIL DOES TO SERVICE OUR PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

SO, AS WAS THE INTENT OF THESE EVENTS AND OUR, AND OUR FOCUS OF THE TOWN HALLS TO HAVE A LOCALIZED FOCUS ON THE LOCATION AND WHO WOULD GO TO THAT LOCATION, AND THEN TO RECRUIT THEM TO SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCES WERE, WERE WELL IN OUR WAY, UH, TO DO EXACTLY THAT.

AND THEN TO HAVING, UH, A EQUALLY DYNAMIC AND CONNECTION, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, INTIMATE AND POWERFUL, UH, CONNECTION EXPERIENCE WITH OUR CITIZENS AROUND THEIR CHALLENGES AND SUCCESSES WITH, WITH DIGITAL EQUITY.

UH, SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE A PLANNING MEETING PLANNED FOR OUR NEXT ONE PLAN FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY.

UH, AND THAT'S BASED UPON THE AVAILABILITY, UH, OF OUR MANAGING BRANCH MANAGER, WHO WE WANNA MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE IN THAT CONVERSATION.

UH, I WANNA PUT THAT ON ALL OF Y'ALL'S RADAR.

UH, BUT IN PARTICULAR, UH, THE DIGITAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR O'CLOCK MOST LIKELY NEXT WEDNESDAY AS A TIMING FOR THAT.

SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.

ALSO RELATED TO DIGITAL, UH, INCLUSION.

TOWN HALL PLANNING IS THE DATE THAT WE HAD RESERVED FOR THE ASIAN AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER.

I WANNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I UNFORTUNATELY CONFLATED SOME DATES, UH, IN OUR PLANNING MEETING.

I WANNA MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THAT DATE IS NOVEMBER 19TH.

SO THAT'S A DATE THAT I'D LIKE FOR ALL COMMISSIONERS.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT AUTHORITY THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS CAN BE PRESENT AT THESE ENGAGEMENTS.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE, UH, A REALLY ROBUST SHOWING AT THAT ONE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ENTERTAINING A MUCH BIGGER GROUP IN THE CONVERSATION.

AND, UH, THEREFORE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE IN THAT SAFE SPACE RATIO MORE OF US.

SO HOPEFULLY MORE OF US WILL STEP UP AND, AND BE ABLE TO JOIN THAT, THAT

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CONVERSATION.

THOSE ARE THE MAIN UPDATES AROUND DIGITAL INCLUSION, TOWN HALL PLANNING.

UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK OR CONCERNS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

AND FOR YOUR, UH, TOWN HALL AT TERRAS, WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REMOTE PARTICIPATION? GREAT QUESTION.

UH, SO, UH, I WOULD, UH, SAY YES.

I THINK, UH, THE KEY THING IS THAT WE IDENTIFY THAT AS PART OF OUR MODEL, UH, WITH OUR TWO ENGAGEMENTS AT THE SOUTHEAST BRANCH LIBRARY AND HOW WELL THAT WORKED.

UH, WE KNOW THAT, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE SIGNUP IS LIKE BASED UPON OUR EXPERIENCE.

UH, WE KNOW THAT WE MAY NOT GET THAT MUCH, BUT WE, WE CAN ANTICIPATE HOPEFULLY SOME, UH, IT MAY BE THE CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO COME IN PERSON, AND THEN THEY, THEY, THEY'RE FORCED TO THEN PARTICIPATE REMOTELY.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE TO PRESENT THAT AS AN OPTION TO EVERYONE, UH, THAT IS SIGNED UP.

BUT AGAIN, THE KEY IS THAT WE, EVEN WITH REMOTE PARTICIPATION, UH, WE NEED TO CAP THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, UH, SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT SAFE SPACE DYNAMIC THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING, YOU KNOW, STUDIED OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF LABORATORY EXPERIMENT, BUT INSTEAD THAT IT'S A REAL CONVERSATION WHERE WE'RE THERE TO LISTEN TO THEM AND TO LEAN IN AND TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO HAVE THE FLOOR.

SO, GREAT QUESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR, OR FEEDBACK? YOU MENTIONED THE 19TH AT FOUR.

CAN YOU JUST CLA WAS THAT FOR THE NEXT PLANNING MEETING? UH OH, NO, NO, NO.

SO, UH, NEXT WEDNESDAY, RIGHT? SO TODAY BEING THE 12TH YES.

OCTOBER 19TH AT 4:00 PM WE'LL HAVE OUR PLANNING SESSION, OUR NEXT PLANNING SESSION.

UNDERSTOOD.

UH, AGENDA NUMBER, ITEM NINE, DISCUSSION ON THE PROCESS FOR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN COUNCIL MEETINGS, DISCUSSION AND ACTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, GREAT.

THEN WE CAN PROCEED NOW TO, UH, OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM,

[9. Discussion on the process for Citizen participation in Council meetings]

UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE, UH, COMMISSION YATES A CHANCE TO OPEN THIS UP IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS, UH, A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT, UH, THEY INITIALLY PROPOSED, UH, COMMISSION.

YATES, ARE YOU PREPARED TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE? YES.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM COMES ABOUT BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCES SPEAKING BEFORE COUNCIL ON VARIOUS AGENDA ITEMS. AND WHAT SPEAKERS HAVE TO DO IS THEY HAVE TO SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR THEIR ONE MINUTE, AND THEY NEVER KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO COME UP.

AND SO I FEEL THAT THERE WOULD BE A GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AND MORE CONVENIENCE FOR CITIZENS IF THERE WAS AN ONLINE LIST OF SPEAKERS SO THAT SPEAKERS ON ANY AGENDA ITEM COULD SEE WHEN THEY WOULD BE SPEAKING, AND THEY COULD EITHER BE THERE IN PERSON OR THEY COULD, UH, UM, BE THERE REMOTELY, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER IDEA RATHER THAN JUST BEING ON THE EDGE OF THEIR SEATS CONSTANTLY.

SO THAT'S THE BASIC SIMPLE IDEA, IS AN ONLINE LIST THAT SPEAKERS CAN SEE WHERE THEY ARE IN, IN THE SCHEDULE FOR SPEAKING ON ANY PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.

OF HOW LONG A PERSON WOULD HA A CITIZEN WOULD HAVE TO WAIT IN ORDER TO SPEAK ON ANY PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I GUESS ONE QUESTION I HAVE, UH, THAT IMMEDIATELY COMES TO MIND, UM, IS PRIVACY.

AND IF THE SAME TYPE OF VISIBILITY, UH, IT SEEMS, I'M THINKING ABOUT PRIVACY, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE ALREADY ANSWERED BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE SAME TYPE OF VISIBILITY TO WHO'S SPEAKING OR IN LINE TO SPEAK IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE WITH PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP IN PERSON, CORRECT? WELL, NO, IT'S, UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ONLINE WHERE AN ACTUAL CITIZEN CAN SEE THAT LIST.

NOW, IT IS PUBLIC RECORD FOR ANYONE THAT SPEAKS THEIR, THEIR NAME IS, IS PUBLISHED.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY.

BUT, UM, WHAT IS NEEDED IS JUST A, A LITTLE BETTER IDEA

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I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, I GUESS.

COMMISSIONER DOTA.

YEAH, YOU KNOW, I, I, I SYMPATHIZED WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER Y'S PROBLEM BECAUSE I FACED THAT SAME PROBLEM WHERE I SIGNED UP TO GO TALK, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN AT 10 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WHEN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS SO FLUID, IT MOVES BACK AND FORTH.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE, JUST LIKE WE HAVE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION IN THIS, UH, COMMISSION MEETING RIGHT AT THE FRONT, WHY DON'T WE BUNCH THEM ALL TOGETHER AND HAVE CITIZEN COMMISSION AS THE FIRST THING OF THE AGENDA IN EVERY COUNCIL MEETING EVERY THURSDAY MORNING? AND THEN WHEN THAT TOPIC COMES UP, THEY PLAY IT BACK FOR ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HEAR IT AGAIN.

THERE'S ONLY ONE MINUTE, AND MAYBE THERE ARE 10 PEOPLE SPEAKING.

SO THEY PLAY OUT ALL THOSE 10 PEOPLE ON THAT PARTICULAR AGENDA.

I, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT AROUND, GO IN THERE, MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION AND LEAVE, RIGHT? UH, THE WAY THAT IT'S WORKING RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT, THERE IS A MODIFIED PROCEDURE LIKE THAT WHEREBY, UH, THE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING IS ALL CITIZEN COMMUNICATION ON ANY PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IS TAKEN BY COUNCIL, AND, BUT IT'S NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT MIGHT BE AGENDA ITEM FIVE FIRST, AND THEN 83 IS THE NEXT SPEAKER IN 12 IS THE NEXT.

AND SO NOBODY, EVERYONE'S GOT THE WEIGHT AROUND AND LISTEN.

AND THE IDEA IS, WELL, MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOME OTHER WORK DONE AT THE SAME TIME.

NOW, I KNOW THAT THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS PROCESS BECAUSE THE, UH, SAY FOR ZONING ISSUES, THE APPLICANT IN A ZONING ISSUE HAD GETS TO SPEAK FOR A LOT LONGER, AND THEY GET TO SPEAK DURING THE ACTUAL DELIBERATION, WHICH GENERALLY OCCURS LATE IN THE AFTERNOON OR LATE AT NIGHT.

UM, BUT MOST OF THE, UH, CITIZENS HAVE TO SPEAK IN THE MORNING, AND THEIR, UH, THEIR TESTIMONY IS TOTALLY DISCONNECTED FROM THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM.

SO THIS IS THE COMPLAINT OF THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL, BUT AT LEAST WE COULD MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVENIENT FOR CITIZENS BY HAVING THIS LIST ONLINE THAT SAYS YOU'RE NUMBER 52.

AND SO, UM, CALCULATE THAT, UH, IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER HALF HOUR.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT SOME IMMEDIATE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, JUST A OFFICIATING MEETINGS.

UM, I HAVE TO ADMIT, IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE IF IN ADDITION TO THE, THE AGENDA THAT, UH, AS YOU KNOW, CAN BE FLUID THAT, THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO MANAGE.

UH, I THEN ALSO HAD, OR, OR WHOEVER WAS SERVING AS CHAIR, THEN ALSO HAD A LIST OF, UH, CITIZEN COMMENTS TO DIRECTLY RE RESPOND TO AND MANAGE.

I DO MY BEST, AND I THINK MOST CHAIRS DO THEIR BEST TO INTEGRATE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION INTO THE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S TAKEN PLACE BECAUSE IT SEEMS PERTINENT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A MEETING IF IT WAS RAISED AND IT'S PERTINENT, YOU KNOW, AND IT COMES UP LATER THAN, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO THAT.

BUT IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF, IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OKAY, PAUSE.

NOW LET'S INTEGRATE, UH, ALL THOSE COMMENTS INTO THIS.

SO I'M JUST SAYING THIS TO SAY I'VE GOT SOME DEGREE OF EMPATHY FOR CITY COUNCIL AND, AND WHAT THEY'VE GOTTA MANAGE IN TERMS OF, UH, INTRUSIONS INTO THE EXISTING AGENDA.

BUT WHAT IT WANTS ME TO DO, AND THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY INITIAL THOUGHT, FRANKLY, WHEN, UH, THIS WAS RAISED, UH, AND I WANTED TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT ON THE RECORD SO I CAN THEN SHARE THIS THOUGHT ON THE RECORD.

I THINK THIS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS WHERE IT, WE'D BE WELL SERVED TO GO TO REACH OUT TO, UM, THE, THE STAFF LIAISON THAT MANAGES CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, AND TO KNOW, TO LEARN WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GONE INTO THEIR CURRENT PROCESS, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'VE, UH, DEEMED AS IMPRACTICAL BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCES.

YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE USING THE CURRENT SYSTEM AND IF THERE'S PLANS TO CHANGE THAT ALREADY, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS ON THE IDEA BOARD OR NOT, UM, EVEN IF FOR NOTHING ELSE, JUST TO SHOW RESPECT

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FOR, UH, THE ROLES THAT ARE PLAYED IN THAT AND THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE ALREADY.

THAT WAS MY INITIAL THOUGHT.

UH, HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THAT? SO I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE THAT WE TRY AND, UH, UH, REACH OUT TO, UM, LIKE THE, UH, UM, THE ART, THE OFFICES THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH BEFORE ON, ON THE SUBJECTS.

UM, BELIEVE THAT'S THE, UH, CITY CLERK, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, RIGHT? AND, UM, SEE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS A VERY MINOR, UH, MODIFICATION TO THE CURRENT, UH, PROCESS.

IT IS JUST GIVES, UM, CITIZENS A LITTLE BETTER IDEA OF WHEN THEY CAN SPEAK.

IT DOESN'T REALLY MODIFY THE PROCESS AT ALL.

UM, AND, UH, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN THERE, THE, THE LIST ALREADY EXISTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL USES WHEN THEY SAY, ALL RIGHT, THIS CITIZEN IS UP NEXT, AND THEN AFTER THAT, THIS CITIZEN.

BUT, UH, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER FOR CITIZENS IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ONLINE THAT THEY COULD SEE WHEN THEY WOULD BE SPEAKING.

YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

YOUR POINT IS TAKEN.

I MEAN, WE COULD POTENTIALLY JUST PHRASE THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, AND, AND START THERE.

AND, UH, AND THEN ALSO INVITE, UH, IN ADDITION TO WONDERING ABOUT THAT ONE QUANDARY, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU HAVE A LIST, HOW ABOUT PUBLISHING THAT LIST TO HELP, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE, GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE ALSO OPEN TO MEETING TO DISCUSS, UH, WHAT THEIR PLANS HAVE BEEN FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT IDEAS THEY HAVE FOR, FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FUTURE ITERATIONS OF, UH, UH, OF THE SIGNUP PROCESS AND, AND HOW TO INTEGRATE.

SINCE WE DO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE RECOGNIZE AS THROUGH YOUR FEEDBACK, WE RECOGNIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION MORE INTEGRATED INTO THE AGENDA.

SO WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE A GOAL POTENTIALLY THAT SERVES A COMMUNITY.

UH, UH, NO DOUBT IT SERVES A COMMUNITY.

THIS IS WHETHER OR NOT, IF THAT'S OUR SPECIFIC GOAL, TO THEN INTEGRATE THAT CITIZEN COMMUNICATION INTO THE AGENDA.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SHOWING RESPECT FOR THEM AND, AND, AND THEIR PROCESSES, MAYBE JUST, YOU KNOW, KINDA OPEN IT UP TO THEM AND, AND, AND GET THAT CONVERSATION GOING.

UM, SO IF THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO, TO YOU, UH, AND TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, UH, OPTION.

I, I, I SEE JESSE NODDING THAT HE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE SENDING THAT EMAIL OUT.

RIGHT? THAT WAS MY QUESTION, IS WHAT IS THE ACTION ITEM AND WHO IS IT, UH, ALLOCATED TO? SO I GUESS JESSE IS GOING TO SEND THIS IDEA OFF TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO SEE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT STEVE.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, COMMISSIONER YATES, I THINK THAT, UH, I CAN CERTAINLY FORWARD ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION POSES TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

I WOULD REQUEST THAT, UH, A COMMISSIONER TAKE THE LEAD TO GENERATE THE QUESTION AND PHRASE IT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, AND THEN I CAN, UH, PASS IT ALONG TO THE APPROPRIATE CONTACT.

SO SINCE I KIND OF GENERATED THIS, UH, ITEM, I WILL TAKE THAT ON TO, UM, SEND A, UH, EMAIL TO JESSE AND COPY, COPY, UH, THE CHAIR, UM, WITH A QUESTION HERE, HERE IS OUR PROPOSAL.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT? THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

DOES THAT SOUND GREAT TO EVERYBODY ELSE NODS, THUMBS UP.

NEXT, UH, GEN ITEM WORKING GROUP UPDATES 10 UPDATE FROM THE DIGITAL INCLUSION, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND STRATEGIC TELE, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOM POLICY WORKING GROUP.

SOUNDS GREAT.

THANKS FOR DOING THAT, JESSE.

YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT, JESSE.

AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE, UH, LEADERSHIP AS WELL, CHEMISTRY YATES.

AWESOME.

WELL, THEN THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT ITEM.

SO WITH THAT, THEN, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE HERE QUICKLY TO OUR

[10. Update from Digital Inclusion, Civic Engagement, and Strategic Technology and Telecom Policy Working Group]

SO THE BIGGEST UPDATE, OF COURSE, IS THAT WE JUST COMPLETED DIGITAL INCLUSION WEEK 2022.

AND, AND, UH, IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

I KNOW THAT, UH, IT, IT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC AS IT APPROACHES.

AND WE WORK TO TRY TO GET, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMMING AND, AND, UH, AND THEN WE, WE, WE THEN DO THE PROGRAMMING, AND THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, A BIG RELAX, YOU KNOW, A BIG SIGH RELIEF AND, AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TAKE SOME TIME OFF, UH, AT THE, UH, NONPROFIT LEVEL JUST TO RECHARGE THEIR BATTERIES, WHICH I APPRECIATE.

UH, BUT I HAD THE PLEASURE OF PARTICIPATING IN, IN SEVERAL EVENTS DIRECTLY MYSELF.

UM, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE, UM, THAT I WANT TO MENTION ON THE RECORD HERE.

SO, UH, THE EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE THERE

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WAS, UH, IN FACT, I ACTUALLY THINK I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, UH, THAT THESE EVENTS WOULD TAKE PLACE, UH, AT OUR PRIOR MEETING.

SO I, I DON'T, UH, WANT TO REPEAT THAT, BUT JUST TO SHARE SOME SPECIFIC STUFF ABOUT THE THINGS THAT, THAT I DIRECTLY PARTICIPATED IN, AND THEN GIVE OTHERS A CHANCE TO DO THE SAME.

UH, I PARTICIPATED IN A, A DISCUSSION, UH, WHICH WAS A, WELL, I WAS PART, I OBSERVED A DISCUSSION THAT TOOK PLACE WITH A, UH, A GREAT PANEL OF, UH, THEN AND NOW, UH, PEOPLE FOCUSED ON THE DIGITAL DIVIDE.

UH, THIS WAS HOSTED BY AUSTIN FREENET.

AND, UH, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE IT ALSO INCLUDED, UH, SOME OF THE ORIGINAL FOUNDERS, UH, ACTUALLY OF AUSTIN FREENET.

AND I WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY, THEY'RE DO, BUT WE ARE VERY IMPRESSED FOR TIME.

SO, UH, THE THING THAT, THAT, THE THING THAT MOST STRUCK ME ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION, UH, THAT I WANTED TO STAY ON THE RECORD, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING CONVEYED BY SOME ON THE CALL, UM, THAT THERE'LL ALWAYS BE A DIVIDE, UH, THAT BECAUSE OF THE DYNAMICS WE'RE DEALING WITH BEING ROOTED, UH, IN, UH, IN SOME HISTORICAL LEGACIES, THAT THAT POTENTIALLY MIGHT BE A, A MOVING TARGET, UH, YOU KNOW, AND TO BOOK IN THAT WITH, UH, THE NEXT MAIN THING THAT I PARTICIPATED IN, WHICH WAS, UH, THE TECH FOR ALL FESTIVAL, AND I WAS PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE, HONORED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION AND, UH, THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS.

THERE.

I, I, I WISH THAT I COULD HAVE ACTUALLY SPOKEN ON THAT, THAT CONFERENCE CALL, UM, BECAUSE I DISAGREE.

UH, I DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A DIVIDE.

UM, IN FACT, UH, I FEEL IT, IT'S HOPE THAT GUIDES MY WORK IN THIS SPACE AND BELIEF AND HUMANITY AND WHAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER WHEN WE COME TOGETHER.

WHEN I GAVE MY SPEECH, I TALKED ABOUT HOW MY JOURNEY INTO DIGITAL INCLUSION BEGAN WITH MY GRANDPARENTS, UH, THREE OF WHOM ATTENDED THE TEXAS DEAF DUMB AND BLIND SCHOOL FOR COLORED YOUTH INSTITUTE FOR COLORED YOUTH AT THE THEN SEGREGATED CAMPUS, UH, IN AUSTIN.

UH, NOW IN THE, IN THE SIXTIES, UH, THEY, UH, OR FORTIES MAYBE THEY MOVED FROM THEIR ORIGINAL SITE TO THE ACTUAL EAST SIDE OFF OF AIRPORT, WHICH WAS ENCLOSED, UH, ONCE THEY COMBINED A CAMPUSES AFTER INTEGRATION.

BUT WHEN MY GRANDPARENTS WENT THERE IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS, IT WAS ACTUALLY, UH, 40 IN BETWEEN 38TH AND 45TH NEAR BULL CREEK, UH, WHERE IT'S PRIMARILY DPS PROPERTY NOW, AND WHERE THERE'S NO TRACE WHATSOEVER THAT THERE WAS EVER AN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION THERE, UH, LET ALONE ANY ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE HISTORY THAT TOOK PLACE THERE.

AND IN THE SPIRIT OF THE, THE DESPAIR, MAYBE, IF YOU WILL, UH, MOTIVATIONAL DESPAIR THAT I HEARD ABOUT THAT DIVIDE MOVING, UH, WHAT I THOUGHT OF WAS HOW WELL, OKAY, EVEN, EVEN IN TEXAS, WHICH AS THE CITY HAS ACKNOWLEDGED, UH, IS STRUGGLING WITH ITS HISTORY OF SEGREGATION AND HOW THAT'S IMPACTED INFRASTRUCTURE, AND HOW OUR COMMISSION HAS, HAS ELEVATED THOSE ISSUES THROUGH THE PRESENTATIONS FROM SAM TELFORD, OUR PRINCIPAL PLANNER ON THE HISTORY OF PLANNING AND RACISM IN AUSTIN.

UM, YOU KNOW, NOTWITHSTANDING THAT THE, THE FACT IS THAT EVEN IN TEXAS, AND THIS IS AGAIN, YOU HAD PEOPLE WITH THE HUMANITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS NEEDED SPECIAL ATTENTION, THAT PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T HEAR OR THAT WERE BLIND, THAT THEY NEEDED SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THAT EQUITY MEANT THAT THESE PEOPLE DESERVE AN EDUCATION, AND THAT CERTAIN THINGS HAD TO BE DONE TO ACCOUNT FOR THEM.

NOW, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T A MODEL FOR EQUITY IN A SOCIETY THAT WAS SEGREGATED, UM, UH, AND THAT WAS DEALING WITH RACISM SO LY AS WE WERE.

BUT THE FACT IS THAT WE WERE STILL TRYING TO, TO, TO DO, TO CREATE EQUITY.

UH, AND THAT GIVES ME HOPE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO, TO

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BRIDGE DIGITAL DIVIDE AS LONG AS WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOCUSED ON OUR HUMANITY THAT RECOGNIZE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO STAY FOCUSED ON THAT SHARED COMMON GROUND TO THEN PROBLEM SOLVE AND, AND ACHIEVE GOALS TOGETHER.

UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I, I STRESS IN MY SPEECH AND, AND HOW NOW THEN WITH THIS, UH, THIS COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT WE NEED TO UNDERTAKE TO, UH, UNDERGO PLANNING AND BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE, IT'S THAT SAME SPIRIT, YOU KNOW, OF, OF COMMON GOALS.

AND IT, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE INTENTIONAL PROMOTION AND ACCEPTANCE OF OUR COMMON HISTORY, UH, OF THE SAME TRUTHS THAT SOME FINE, UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT THAT REALLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED FOR THE SAKE OF, UH, OF, OF TRUTH AND BUILDING FROM THAT WITH INTENTION.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO SHARE THAT ON THE RECORD.

WE'RE REALLY PRESSED FOR TIME HERE NOW, AND I KNOW THAT TOOK UP MORE TIME THAN I WANTED, BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT.

UH, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I MENTIONED THIS TO OTHERS.

THERE WAS SEVERAL LAPTOPS GIVEN OUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS MULTIGENERATIONAL.

UM, THE MUSIC WAS AWESOME, YOU KNOW, THE BAND, UH, MISS MAC AND, AND, AND THE DAD'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY PERFORMED AWESOMELY AND, UH, AND I HOPE THEY GET A CHANCE TO COME BACK NEXT YEAR.

AND IN FACT, SPEAKING OF NEXT YEAR, THAT'S THE PLANT IS TO, TO BASICALLY MAKE THIS FESTIVAL GROW AND GROW AND GROW AND GET BIGGER AND BIGGER TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS? WE'RE DOING THINGS LIKE SOUTH BY, AND WE GOT CONFERENCE TRACKS.

WE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT PEOPLE COMING FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY JUST TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS CONVERSATION AND TO IMPACT DIGITAL EQUITY AND INCLUSION IN AUSTIN.

UH, I, I LOVE THAT AS A GOAL, UH, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT UNFOLD.

UM, I ALSO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF PARTICIPATING IN THE CONVERSATION, UH, BY DIRECT INVITATION FROM JEFF DKU, UH, MICHAEL WARD, UH, JEFF DUP OF THE, OF THE AUTONOMY INSTITUTE, UH, MICHAEL WARD, UH, FROM THE, FROM AUTUMN OR THE, UH, AUSTIN URBAN, UH, TECHNOLOGY MOVEMENT.

AND, UH, DOCTOR, UH, UM, LEMME MAKE SURE I GET THIS RIGHT.

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENTS.

HMM.

I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE, UH, I'M DRAWING A BLANK NOW HERE ON, UH, THE, THE DOCTOR THAT JOINED OUR CONVERSATION.

UH, BUT I'LL BE SURE, UH, TO UPDATE EVERYONE ON THAT.

UH, BUT WHAT I DID, UH, WAS ADDRESS CONCERNS, UH, ABOUT, UH, DIGITAL INCLUSION AND OTHER FEEDBACK THAT, UH, PERTAIN TO THE INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE RESOLUTION.

BUT WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT.

UH, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT HERE BRIEFLY, UH, AS WELL IN, IN A MOMENT.

UH, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO THOUGH IS INVITE, UH, THAT DOCTOR TO COME AND PARTICIPATE, UH, TO PRESENT TO THIS COMMISSION ON THEIR PROGRAM, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS ENCOURAGING, UH, THE SUBSTANTIVE, UH, EVALUATION OF AI AND AI TECHNOLOGIES AT, UH, A GRADE SCHOOL LEVEL, UH, BY STUDENTS, BY BI YOUTH, UH, THAT DON'T TRADITIONALLY GET EXPOSED, UH, TO THOSE CONCEPTS.

UH, CH CHANGING EXPECTATIONS IS THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM, AND, UH, I JUST APOLOGIZE THAT I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON THE DOCTOR'S NAME, UH, THAT, THAT LEADS THAT PROGRAM.

UH, IF ANYONE IS FAST ENOUGH TO GOOGLE THAT, UH, WHILE WE MOVE ON

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AGENDA, THEN I'D LIKE TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.

UH, THAT'D BE AWESOME.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTION? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT WORKING GROUP AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA? PHILIP? IT WAS, IT WAS DR.

PHILIP ELAND.

YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JESSE.

UH, DR.

PHILIP ELAND, UH, AGAIN, UH, VERY DELIGHTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT DISCUSSION, AND WE'LL BE INVITING HIM TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION, UH, BASED UPON, UH, THE WONDERFUL PROGRAM HE'S RUNNING THERE.

UH, OF COURSE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE FULLY FOCUSED ON THE DIGITAL INCLUSION TOWN HALLS, AND WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON THAT, SO THAT, THAT PRETTY MUCH TAKES CARE OF THAT AGENDA ITEM, UNLESS THERE ANY QUESTIONS.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND QUICKLY PROCEED TO THE, UH, KNOWLEDGE IN, UH, INFORMATION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORKING GROUP.

SO WITH A ETHAN,

[11. Update from Knowledge, Information, and Data Stewardship Working Group]

I'LL PASS IT TO THE CHAIR OF THAT WORKING GROUP, OUR VICE CHAIR, OPPA DACA FOR AN UPDATE.

YEAH, THANKS SO MUCH.

CHAIR PITS.

UM, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A SCHEDULING CONFLICT THAT WORKING GROUP, BUT WE DID HAVE IN ABRIDGED, IF NOT, UM, UH, EFFECTIVE AND AND EFFICIENT, UM, MEETING YESTERDAY.

UM, WHAT WE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON IS, UM, NEXT STEPS ON THE VOTING CATURE DATABASE ITEM.

THAT HAS COME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES.

UH, I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT LAST TIME AS, AS A FULL COMMISSION BRIEFLY.

UM, NEXT STEPS FOR, FOR THAT.

UM, SO I HAD CORRESPONDED WITH MY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OFFICE.

UH, THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO, UM, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, UH, FOR AN UPDATE.

SO, UH, WHAT WE SAY IS THE NEXT, AS A NEXT STEP FOR OUR WORKING GROUP IS LET'S JUST INVITE, UM, THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO GIVE, UH, A BROAD UPDATE SORT OF ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR, UM, THE, UM, THE SCHEDULING DATABASE, WHICH THEY'RE SORT OF ROLLING THE, THE VOTING TABLET CHAIR PROJECT INTO, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT ROLLING THIS OUT IN THE SHORT OR MEDIUM TERM AND THEN ROLLING IT OUT AGAIN, UM, AS PART OF A LARGER PROJECT, UH, MIGHT BE INEFFICIENT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE MORE EFFECTIVE FOR, FOR US AS COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND, UM, MORE GENERALLY WHAT THEIR PLAN AND STRATEGY IS.

THAT WAY WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT UPDATE.

UH, AND, AND I WANT TO, UH, MAKE SURE TO MENTION, UH, FOR COMMISSIONER YATES HAS BENEFIT, UH, IT'S NOT LOST ON US THAT THIS BEGAN WITH THAT AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL, UH, FEEDBACK FROM, I BELIEVE, 2019.

UM, RIGHT.

SO, UH, WE, WE, WE HAVE ELEVATED THAT, UH, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR CLARITY TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT WE, WE FULL OBLIGED TO GET, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT INTO WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.

AND SO IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, WE'LL GET A CHANCE TO THEN HOPEFULLY EITHER ONE OF TWO THINGS WILL HAPPEN.

THEY'LL EITHER COME AND PRESENT TO US, UH, AT THE COMMISSION MEETING, UH, ON THE RECORD, ABOUT THEIR PLANS FOR AN AGENDA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT THEN VOTING TABLETURE BEING PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE, WHICH IS WHAT WE SIMPLY REQUESTED, OR TO MEET WITH US CANDIDLY IN THE WORK GROUP SESSION, AND THEN TO HASH IT OUT THERE.

AND JUST TO ADD ON LIKE TECH VERY MUCH, UH, COMMISSIONER APA DACA, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT, IF THAT COULD BE ON OUR, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO THIS IS, THIS IS IMPORTANT.

I WANTED BE ABLE TO GIVE AN UPDATE TO AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL AT THEIR MEETING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

UH, WITH THAT THEN I'D LIKE TO GIVE, UH, JUST A COUPLE MINUTES FOR THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UH,

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST REALLY TACTICALLY, UM, SO CHAIR PITS IS, IS TAKING THE ACTION TO, UH, DRAFT AN EMAIL FOR JESSE TO SUBSEQUENTLY SEND TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, UH, FORMALLY INVITING THEM, RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND THEN THAT, THAT IS DONE.

UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, AS, AS VICE CHAIR APODACA MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NITTEN GRITTY OF THE MESSAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN LIGHT OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE, UH, IN LIGHT OF WHAT THEY'VE GOT PLANNED IN MIND THAT MIGHT MEET THIS NEED, BUT THAT OUTSTANDING, UH, YOU KNOW, RAISE OF CONCERN FROM THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL.

UH, PLEASE GIVE US SOME UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OPTIONS ON HOW SO THOUGHT SHE'D APPRECIATE THAT.

COMMISSION GATES.

UH, ANY OTHER UPDATES? I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

I FORGOT WORKING GROUP.

YEAH, THAT WAS IT FROM MIND.

[12. Update from Technology, Infrastructure, and Innovation Working Group]

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INNOVATION WORKING GROUP TO SHARE AN UPDATE AND A LOT OF THE FACT THAT WE'VE COVERED A LOT DURING OUR RESOLUTION DISCUSSION.

SO I GUESS WITH, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY SINCE OF THE CHAIR OF THAT WORKING GROUP, COMMISSIONER FLOYD IS NOT HERE, UH, TO SAY THAT THAT UPDATE HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

UH, AND SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

UH, MY MIND CHAIR , RIGHT? UH, GREAT.

SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

UH, NOW MOVING ALONG IN OUR AGENDA, UH, TWO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO, UH, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, CHANGING EXPECTATIONS IS, IS GOING TO BE APPROACHED, UH, DR.

PHILLIP ELON, UH, WILL BE APPROACHED TO SEE IF THEY CAN PRESENT TO US IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

UH, AS, UH, VICE CHAIR JUST EXPLAINED, I HAVE, UH, PROVIDED EMAIL CONTENT FOR JESSE TO SEND.

DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO SEND THAT, JESSE? SO JESSE'S ALREADY REQUESTED, UH, THAT WE EITHER GET AN UPDATE FROM, UH, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT OUR COMMISSION MEETING NEXT, OR IN THE WORKING GROUP MEETING.

SO THAT MAY BE ON OUR AGENDA AS WELL IN NOVEMBER.

UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE VOTING TEMPERATURE REQUEST THAT WE MADE, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY GONNA, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SEVERAL RESOLUTIONS TO, TO, TO DELVE INTO, AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA MAKE FOR A PRETTY ROBUST NOVEMBER AGENDA, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON THINGS THAT MIGHT BE INCLUDED, I THINK THAT'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT.

AWESOME.

CHEMISTRY.

YATES, ARE YOU REACHING FOR THE MUTE BUTTON? COMMISSIONER GUPTA? GO RIGHT AHEAD.

YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, ALL THESE, UH, BOND PACKAGES 2016, 2018.

WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE AT SOME FI FUTURE MEETING TO HAVE THEM COME AND GIVE US A GOOD PRESENTATION ON IT, ON STATUS? UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UH, I, I THINK, UM, IT, IT, IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UH, ESPECIALLY IF WE FOCUS THE REQUEST AROUND SOMETHING TECH AND TELECOM FOCUSED, UH, YOU KNOW, AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR TE FOR US TO PART PARTICIPATE, RIGHT? YEAH.

I THINK THAT, UH, NOVEMBER MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO SOON, BUT YEAH, SURE.

CERTAINLY FOR, UH, FOR A FUTURE, FUTURE MEETING.

CERTAINLY, AND I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PLEASE KEEP YOUR THINKING CAPS ON.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A THOUGHT THAT COMES TO YOU, UH, YOU DON'T NEED TO WAIT TO OUR, YOUR COMMISSION MEETING, JUST FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME YOUR THOUGHT AND THEN WE CAN CHOP IT UP AND, AND, AND TALK ABOUT IT.

OR, UH, IF JUST BASED ON OUR PLAN, UH, THAT WE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO COLLECTIVELY, UH, IF I SEE HOW THAT IS PART OF IT, THEN I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADD IT TO THE AGENDA PERSONALLY.

SO, BUT COMMISSIONER, DUST SCOOP, I HOPE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING AWAY TOO FAR.

NO, NO, I JUST, I THAT YEAH, I HEARD THE DOOR OPEN.

I WAS WONDERING, I WAS ALL ALONE.

THIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I JUST GOT SPOOKED A LITTLE.

WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT IT TAKES.

LET YOU CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

UH, LET'S MOVE FORWARD TO OUR NEXTGEN ITEM.

ADJOURN.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR? I NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN IN A SECOND.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

ALL SECOND.

SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER DOTA.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COMMISSIONER ISLAND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNMENT, PLEASE.

AND SHOW YOUR HAND.