* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Call to Order] [00:00:04] WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CONVENE THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, HERE THIS MORNING. IT'S THURSDAY, OCTOBER 13TH, 2022. UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, POOL IS OFF THE, UH, DAIS. WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS, HARPER, MADISON, AND CALI, UH, REMOTE. UM, SO WE HAVE A QUO ON PRESENT. WE'RE IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UH, COLLEAGUES, UH, WE HAVE SOME CHANGES IN CORRECTIONS. ITEM NUMBER 18 IS WITHDRAWN. ITEM NUMBER 26TH, THIS POSTPONE TO OCTOBER 27TH, 2022 10. ITEM NUMBER 40 BEING POSTPONED. OCTOBER 27TH, 2022. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THE, UH, FIVE I BEING ADDED AS A, UH, CO-SPONSOR. UH, AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT ARE PULLED ON THE AGENDA. UM, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME HERE IN JUST A MOMENT. BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, WE HAVE LATE BACKUP AND ITEMS 27, 30, 37, 41, 42, 49, 52, 54, 55, 56, 58, 61, 69, 70, 75. UM, AS, UM, ITEMS WITH LATE BACKUP [Consent Agenda] COLLEAGUES, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WE NEED TO PULL, NOTING THAT THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS ONE THROUGH 44 AND 71 THROUGH 79 ITEMS TO BE PULLED. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. UM, I, I'M JUST WAITING FOR SOME MORE INFORMATION. DEPENDING ON WHEN WE DO CONSENT, I CAN PUT IT BACK ON IT. AND THAT'S 32 AND, AND AND 33. UM, OKAY. I'M WORKING ON SOME DIRECTION, UH, RELATED TO 32 AND PART OF 33. AND SO I'M, I'LL GET THAT DONE AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. OKAY. SO FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GONNA PULL 32 AND 33. UH, MAYOR PRO 10, I LIKE TO PULL 74 PLEASE. OKAY. AND I MAY, I MAY HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON ITEM, UH, 12. I DON'T ANTICIPATE, UH, PULLING IT, BUT, UH, I WOULD JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF, OKAY. WE'LL LEAVE IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IF THAT CHANGES. UM, MAKE SURE THAT YOU, UH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU LET US KNOW. UM, , THE ITEMS THAT I SEE BEING POSTPONED, I THINK ARE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 27. IS THAT BEING POSTPONED? UM, I THINK IT'S ITEM 27. THIS IS THE RIGHTS TO ORGANIZE. OH, SORRY. UM, ISN'T THAT BEING POSTPONED TO NOVEMBER 3RD? UH, MAY, I'LL HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THAT IF I'M NOT SURE IF WE NEED TO PULL IT TO POSTPONE IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER SOME COMMENTS ON THE FIRST COMMENT. OKAY. SO IT'S ON CONSENT. DO WE NEED TO PULL IT, OR THERE IS IT ON THE CONSENT AS A POSTPONE ITEM TO NOVEMBER 3RD, BUT PEOPLE CAN STILL COMMENT ON, YOU CAN COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. DOES THAT WORK? THEN I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS DURING THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. SO IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 27 TO POSTPONE TO NOVEMBER 3RD. SO I HAVE 26 AND 27 BEING POSTPONED. I HAVE 40 BEING POSTPONED. UM, AND THEN, UH, 77 AND 78 BEING SET FOR NOVEMBER 30TH, 77 AND 78. UM, THAT'S JUST SETTING THE, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER, KELLY HAS HER HAND UP IN CASE YOU CAN'T SEE. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. THANK YOU. UM, I TO SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT OF 27, UM, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO POSTPONE ITEM 48. UM, WE GOT SOME MATERIAL FROM STAFF THIS MORNING THAT I HAVEN'T YET HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW, AND I KNOW PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ALSO HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, SO I WAS WONDERING IF THAT MIGHT BE AMENABLE TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. 5 48 IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, ORDINANCE, UM, INCLUDING THOSE ALBUMS. I'M SORRY, WHAT? IT'S NOT A CONSENT. IT'S NOT A CONSENT. IT'S NON CONSENT. UH, COUNCIL ARE, KELLY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT. IT'S MY INTENT IF IT'S OKAY WITH COLLEAGUES TO CHECK PRETTY EARLY, MAYBE RIGHT AFTER WE VOTE ON CONSENT TO TAKE A VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER 48 SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW HOW MUCH WORK TO BE DOING HERE THIS MORNING. [00:05:01] NOT TO CALL IT UP ON ITS MERITS RIGHT AWAY, BUT TO CALL IT UP ON THE, UH, QUESTION OF WHETHER WE SHOULD POSTPONE THAT ITEM. ALL RIGHT. SO BE PREPARED FOR THAT VOTE ON POSTPONEMENT, UH, RIGHT AFTER WE VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. TOVO? YEAH, I'M PULLING 39. I SAY WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE DIAS THAT I'M GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT AND WE BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION IN THE BACKUP AND MANAGER IF WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE IT. I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME WHETHER THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAVE ISSUED A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. THEY MAY HAVE INDICATED THAT IN THE Q AND A ABOUT TO TAKE A LOOK. COULD YOU REPEAT THE NUMBER? 39? I ALSO HEARD, I, I READ THE, THE Q AND A ON CONCRETE POURS, AND THE QUESTION THAT COUNCIL BAR TOPO ASKED WAS WHETHER THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT BEFORE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT HAPPENED AT THE HEB SITE ON EXPOSITION IN LAKE AUSTIN BOULEVARD, UM, WHICH IS NOT THE, THE ANSWER THAT I SAW IN Q AND A. UM, IF THEY DID, WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH COUNCIL, CUZ THAT'S IN MY DISTRICT AND I DON'T REMEMBER AUTHORIZING IT. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, SO, UH, MAYOR MAN, YES. AT KITCHEN. OKAY. UM, I THINK ITEM 74 HAS BEEN PULLED BY MAYOR PORT, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, YES. WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I MIGHT SUGGEST POSTPONING IT. UM, WE CAN TALK, TALK ABOUT IT, BUT, UM, I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS RELATED TO IT ALSO. OKAY. MIGHT CONCERN I'LL ALSO BE POSTING AND HANDING OUT A VERSION TWO. OKAY. THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE COUNCIL LETTING STAFF INITIATE ANY ORDINANCES. OKAY. MM-HMM. , WHICH IS, UM, A CONCERN THAT I'VE HEARD RAISED. YEAH. SO WE'RE GONNA HAND OUT A VERSION TWO THAT, THAT REMOVES THAT COMPONENT OF IT. OKAY. SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BUT IT'S BEEN PULLED. BUT WE'LL POST, WE'LL GET THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY ON THE DIRE MOMENTARILY AND WE'LL ALSO POST IT FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. THANK YOU. YEP. GUYS, AT 30 AM UH, YES. ON ITEM 39, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT. UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, THE ISSUE IS THAT I, UH, HEB WANTS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. AND, UH, BY DOING IT THE WAY THEY'RE, THEY WERE REQUESTED IT WOULD BE DONE THREE MONTHS EARLIER, SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY THAT DR. TRAFFIC, THAT, UH, PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THEIR VEHICLES THROUGH THAT TRA THAT AREA INTO A TRAFFIC JAM, WHICH THAT WOULD HAPPEN CUZ UH, O TURF IS JUST A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY WITH NO MIDDLE, I MEAN ROAD WITHOUT A A, A DIVIDER, UH, NO LEFT HAND PROTECTED TURN. SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT THEIR REQUEST WAS. UH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TRYING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T CREATE A BIG TRAFFIC JAM FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND BE ABLE TO SAFELY, UH, EXIT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. AND, UH, IT, AND WITHOUT THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THREE MORE MONTHS UP, UP TO POOR. SO THAT'S THE, THE WHOLE ISSUE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. IT'S BEEN PULLED, WOULD HAVE A DEBATE DISCUSSION ON THAT. UH, UH, LATER THAT IT'S BEEN PULLED MANAGER, I NOTICED THAT ON THE CONSENT WE'RE POSTPONING. UH, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO, UM, UH, POSTPONING THE, UM, UH, PROPERTY, UM, THE, THE IFC WITH RESPECT TO, TO PROPERTY SO THAT THERE'S MORE TIME TO PEOPLE TO, TO WORK ON IT. I AM CONCERNED MANAGER THAT IN THE ANSWER TO THE Q AND A, UM, I ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT WERE STAFF'S REACTIONS TO THIS? AND THE ANSWER IS, IT'S BEEN POSTPONED. SO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS BEING POSTPONED. THAT DOESN'T HELP ME. I'M GONE NEXT WEEK. THIS IS MY DAY AND TOMORROW TO, TO REALLY BE ABLE TO WORK ON THIS. AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A POLICY ONCE SOMETHING GETS POSTED ONTO THE AGENDA, STAFF SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE ASKING FOR, FOR COMMENTS, EVEN IF THE SPONSOR'S CONTINUING TO WORK ON IT, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT AND, AND IMPORTANT TO HAVE HAPPENING. UH, AND MY HOPE IS, IS THAT IT GETS BETTER AND BETTER, BUT ALL THE REST OF US ON THE DIETS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TOO. AND I HAVE FELT BADLY THIS WEEK AS WE'VE GOTTEN CLOSER TO THIS BEFORE WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA GET POSTPONED AS COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO WAS ASKING FOR COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS OR SUGGESTIONS. AND I COULDN'T GIVE ANY BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR, I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT STAFF WAS THINKING OR WHAT ITS CONCERNS WERE, BUT COULDN'T GET THAT INFORMATION. SO I THINK THERE'S A, A POLICY ISSUE, AND I THINK THAT THE POLICY ANSWER SHOULD BE, IF IT'S POSTED, THEN STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO BE [00:10:01] ABLE AND, AND NEEDS TO, IN RESPONSE TO A COUNCIL MEMBER'S QUESTIONS TO PROVIDE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE AT THAT POINT, THEY CAN SAY, HEY, WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS. THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON IT CAN SAY, HEY, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS, BUT THE REST OF US HAVE HAVE WORK TO DO AS WELL. I WOULD APPRECIATE GETTING ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED. I DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK IF STAFF HAS THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS ON, ON WHAT'S EVER BEEN POSTED OR FURTHER THOUGHTS OR WHATEVER. UM, THAT, BUT THAT THE VERY LEAST ON THE POSTED ONE THAT'S PUBLIC, I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE ANSWERS. I DON'T WANNA WAIT CERTAINLY UNDER UNDERSTOOD MAYOR AND, AND APPRECIATE, UH, YOU RAISING THIS BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN WORKING ON THE RESPONSES AND IT WAS KIND OF A TIMING THING WHERE WE HAD THE RESPONSES READY TO GO AND THEN WE SAW A REVISED VERSION. AND SO WE WERE JUST PUT IN THIS A CHALLENGING SITUATION WHERE WE DIDN'T WANT TO THEN HAVE THOSE BE OLD RESPONSES BASED ON A PREVIOUS DIRECTION. BUT I, I, I HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I KNOW THAT, UH, ACM GONZALEZ HAS BEEN CLOSER TO THIS WORKING WITH STAFF AND IF YOU WANT TO ADD A FEW WORDS AS WELL, THANK YOU RODNEY GONZALEZ AND MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR CONCERNS. AND STAFF HAD A VERY DETAILED RESPONSE, UH, THAT WE WERE GONNA POST. UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOGO'S OFFICE AND THERE WERE CHANGES BEING MADE EVEN AS YESTERDAY. AND SO WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO WAS ADD CONFUSION TO THE MATTER. WE DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME RESPONSES TO THE INITIAL RESOLUTION KNOWING THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE ANOTHER RESOLUTION THAT WAS POSTED. AND SO THAT WAS OUR JUDGMENT CALL. UM, WHAT WE COULD DO, OF COURSE, IS POST SOME GENERAL OVERALL CONCERNS, UM, THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO TO ADDRESS RATHER THAN VERY SPECIFIC CONCERNS BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER TOGO'S OFFICE IS LOOKING AT THOSE SPECIFIC CONCERNS AND ADDRESSING THEM AS, AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU MADE A DIS A DISCRETION CALL, JUDGMENT CALL, AND THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE I STILL WANT TO SEE THE STAFF'S COMMENTS TO THE ORIGINAL FILED ONE THAT'S UP PUBLIC SO THAT I CAN SEE HOW THOSE CONCERNS WERE RESOLVED. AND WITHOUT SEEING WHAT THE ORIGINAL CONCERNS WERE, THERE COULD EASILY BE A RESOLUTION OF IT. AND I NEVER HEARD, I WILL NEVER LEARN WHAT THE CONCERN WAS TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF, I ALSO THINK THAT WAS A GOOD RESOLUTION OF THAT CONCERN. SO EVEN IF YOU'RE CONTINUED TO WORK ON OTHER DRAFTS, WE HAVE A POSTED DRAFT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE STAFF'S COMMENTS TO THE POSTED DRAFT SO THAT I CAN DO MY WORK AND MY EVALUATION. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUING TO TO ITERATE AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT WHAT THE PUBLIC SEES AND WHAT I SEE IS SOMETHING THAT'S POSTED AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE STAFF'S CONCERNS WERE, WHETHER THEY'VE BEEN RESOLVED OR NOT TO WHAT WAS POSTED. WE CAN DO THAT. AND YOU CAN PUT AT THE TOP UP, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A, IN FACT THERE IS NOW A RE RESERVE A, A POSTED VERSION TWO. I STILL WANNA SEE WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE FOR VERSION ONE SO THAT, SO THAT I CAN LEARN WHAT THE ISSUES WERE SO I CAN DO A BETTER JOB ON THE, ON THE DAIS. WE CAN DO THAT, BUT JUST LABEL IT REALLY WELL SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET CONFUSED. MAYOR, YES, THIS IS MY RESOLUTION. I'D LIKE TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. UM, AS I, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU RAISED A CONCERN ON TUESDAY ABOUT NEEDING MORE TIME. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'VE REQUESTED A POST-PAYMENT TODAY. I POSTED A REVISED VERSION YESTERDAY THAT ACCOMMODATES MANY OF, OF THE STAFF'S CONCERNS AS ACM GONZALES SAID, WE MET YESTERDAY AND MADE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES EVEN AS WE WERE MEETING. SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THE UTILITY OF THE STAFF POSTED WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE ABOUT THE DRAFT THAT POSTED IN THE AGENDA THREE WEEKS AGO WHEN THERE'S ALREADY A NEW DRAFT THAT DOESN'T SEEM AT ALL, UM, WORTHWHILE IN TERMS OF THE STAFF TIME. AND FRANKLY, THIS IS, THIS IS THE ITERATIVE PROCESS THAT EVERY ONE OF US GOES THROUGH WHEN THEY'RE A SPONSOR ON, ON, UM, A RESOLUTION. THEY HEAR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, THEY HEAR COMMENTS FROM STAFF WHEN, WHEN THEY POST IT AND THEY MAKE CHANGES AND THEY SOMETIMES BRING FORWARD AND EDITED AND REVISED VERSION. AND I JUST DON'T RECALL ANY, ANY TIME BEFORE WHERE YOU'VE MADE A REQUEST THAT THE STAFF GO BACK TO THE POSTED VERSION AND LET US KNOW THE CONCERN SO THAT YOU CAN TRACE IT THROUGH THE, THE ITERATIONS. I'M HAPPY IF YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER YOU'D LIKE TO CO-SPONSOR. I MEAN, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE PRODUCTIVE OF OUR COUNCIL TIME AND THE STAFF TIME IF WE FOCUS ON THE LATER DRAFT. AND I'M HAPPY TO POST ANOTHER ONE. IT IS OUR STAFF, IT IS OUR PLAN IN OUR OFFICE TO TRY TO FINALIZE THE LANGUAGE ON MONDAY. AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO WORK THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS THAT WE GOT YESTERDAY AND ANY OTHERS THAT COME. I THINK WE'RE SHOOTING FOR ANOTHER MEETING ON MONDAY AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FINALIZE [00:15:01] THE LANGUAGE AND I WILL POST THAT. AND THEN IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL STAFF CONCERNS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME RATHER THAN ASKING STAFF TO POST INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE ON THE FIRST DRAFT. AND I HEAR THAT AND I, AND I ONE AGAIN, WANT TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE I, I REALLY LIKE THE CONCEPT AND THE IDEA OF THIS, CUZ I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS AS COUNCIL AND I THINK WE CAN HELP SHARE, UM, AND, AND SET FUTURE COUNCILS UP TO, TO NOT HAVE TO, TO, TO, TO RELIVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH. AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WHEN COUNCIL OFFICERS ARE WORKING WITH STAFF AND THEY'RE GETTING COMMENTS, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE PUBLIC OR POSTED. BUT WHEN THERE IS A VERSION THAT IS POSTED, ONCE THAT VERSION BECOMES POSTED, IT NO LONGER BELONGS TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBER. IT NOW BELONGS TO THE ENTIRE CITY AND TO THE COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE THAT THAT STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO MAY BE RESOLVING SOME OF THE CONCERNS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD NECESSARILY RESOLVE THOSE CONCERNS THE SAME WAY, BUT WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE CONCERN WAS TO THE ORIGINAL POSTED ONE, I I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. AND SINCE IT WAS POSTED AND IT WAS PART OF THE PUBLIC, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT STAFF MAY HAVE ALREADY PREPARED RESPONSES OR A LIST OF CONCERNS. SO I'M NOT SURE IT'S ADDITIONAL WORK. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT. SO, SO I COULD SAY, SAY I RE RECOGNIZE YOU TWO HAVE GONE AHEAD AND RESOLVED IT THIS WAY, BUT, BUT I HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY TO RESOLVE IT THAT I THINK MIGHT BE BETTER. BUT WITHOUT KNOWING THE CONCERN, I MIGHT NOT EVER, I MIGHT NOT EVER SEE IT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT, THAT, AND I APPRECIATE COUNT MY TOGO YOUR WILLINGNESS TO POSTPONE IT. AND I DID RAISE ON, ON TUESDAY THAT I WASN'T READY, BUT IF COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO DID NOT POSTPONE IT TODAY, I WOULD BE EXPECTED TO VOTE ON THIS AND THERE BE NOT. AND I, AND I, AND THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER VERSION THAT WAS, BUT NOT IN ANY SITUATION IN THE FUTURE. I, I GOT TO WITHIN SEVERAL DAYS OF TODAY'S MEETING WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO HEAR WHAT STAFF'S COMMENTS WERE ON SOMETHING THAT WAS POSTED. SO AS A GENERAL POLICY, I WOULD THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING, ONCE A COUNCIL MEMBER POSTS SOMETHING, WHICH THE COUNCIL MEMBER CONTROLS, THE COUNCIL MEMBER DOESN'T HAVE TO POST ANYTHING IF IT'S NOT READY YET TO, TO BE POSTED, BUT TO THE DEGREE IT'S POSTED AT THAT POINT, ALL OF US IN THE COMMUNITY ARE SUPPOSED TO START WORKING ON IT SO THAT WE CAN DO OUR WORK. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE SO THAT I CAN EVALUATE THE RESOLUTIONS OF THOSE CONCERNS. MAYOR, IF I MAY, YES. I MEAN THAT, THAT I INVITED YOU TO BE A CO-SPONSOR. IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE PART OF THE ITERATIVE PROCESS AND HEAR ARE THE CONCERNS AND, AND SUGGEST DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS TO THEM, THEN PLEASE SIGN ON. AS A CO-SPONSOR, I'M SPONSORING THIS. I HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO, TO THOSE CONCERNS. AND WHEN IT HITS THE DIAS FOR CONSIDERATION AND DELIBERATION, THEN IT BELONGS TO EVERYBODY ON THE DIAS TO MAKE DIFFERENT SUGGESTIONS. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT UNTIL WE HAVE THE MEETING, I MEAN, I HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO WITHDRAW IT, HAVE THE ABILITY, I MEAN, YOU ARE MORE THAN HAPPY. I MEAN, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO INCLUDE YOU IN THIS PROCESS. IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE A CO-SPONSOR, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION. I CAN TELL YOU THEY RANGE FROM, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS SUBSTANTIAL CONCERNS THAT I MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS TO REQUEST TO DIVINE THINGS LIKE THE PHRASE MEET WITH OR THE PHRASE DEVELOP, REDEVELOP AND DISPOSITION. YOU KNOW, IT'S, THEY ARE BOTH MICRO LEVEL. I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THE STAFF RESPONSES TO EARLIER DRAFTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, RANGE FROM REQUESTS TO DEFINE THE WORD MEET WITH. SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST. I MEAN, I I, AND I DON'T, THIS IS A VERY NECESSARY, I THINK THIS IS A VERY NECESSARY PROCESS. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE ENTHUSIASM TO WORK ON IT, UM, THAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU. AND I, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE STAFF'S TIME IN HELPING US GET A, WHAT I HOPE IS A PROCESS THAT WORKS WELL FOR THE CITY THAT EVERYONE CAN LIVE WITH. AND I WILL, AGAIN, YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT THAT I'M GOING TO POST THAT NEXT DRAFT JUST AS SOON AS IT'S AVAILABLE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I STILL WANNA SEE THE COMMENTS AND, AND TRY LAST WEEK TO GET THE COMMENTS. AND AS I'VE SAID, I'M, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE THIS TO CO-SPONSOR THIS. I CAN'T COMMIT AT THIS POINT THAT I APPROVE OF ALL OF THE SECTIONS OR WOULDN'T MAKE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE IT'S STILL CHANGING AND BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD THE STAFF COMMENTS YET. SO, SO WHAT I HAVE CONSISTENTLY SAID IS THAT, UH, BEFORE I COULD COMMIT TO UPBRINGING AMENDMENTS OR NOT BRINGING CHANGES, I NEED [00:20:01] TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE. WE TRIED TO GET THE COMMENTS LAST WEEK AND COULDN'T BECAUSE THERE WAS A POLICY OR A PRACTICE THAT SAID THAT STAFF WAS GOING TO HOLD THOSE THINGS WHILE IT CONTINUED TO WORK, WHICH I UNDERSTAND AND, AND I'M, I THINK IT'S GREAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M ELEVATING IT BECAUSE I'M SUGGESTING THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENT POLICY OR OR PRACTICE FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD ASK ONCE IT GETS POSTED. MAYOR PROTE, UM, I THINK THIS COULD BE RESOLVED BY YOU MEETING WITH STAFF TOMORROW AND THEN GOING OVER ANY OUTSTANDING CONCERNS OR SHARING WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE A DRAFT OF COMMENTS THAT WERE SENT TO AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, PUBLIC AT THIS STAGE. IT, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A MORE CONSTRUCTIVE WAY FORWARD GIVEN WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT, UM, PROCESS. AND I APPRECIATE YOU'RE HAVING A MEETING TOMORROW. I TRY TO HAVE A MEETING LAST WEEK AND I TRIED TO GET DON'T HAVE A, I DON HAVE A MEETING. I'M SUGGESTING THAT YOU COULD HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM. I, I TRIED TO GET THIS INFORMATION LA LAST WEEK SO THAT I COULD BE WORKING ON IT TOO, AND COULDN'T AND I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT THE BETTER PRACTICE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD BE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION TO SO THEY CAN WORK ON IT AT THE SAME TIME. MAYOR, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS ISSUE ASIDE, I WOULD HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE STAFF SUDDENLY STARTING TO MEET WITH OTHER COUNCIL OFFICES ABOUT AN ITEM THAT'S COMING UP FROM ONE OF THEIR COLLEAGUES. THAT'S JUST NOT THE WAY WE USUALLY DO PRACTICE. AGAIN, I'M, WHEN I ASKED YOU TO CO-SPONSOR IT WASN'T WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WOULDN'T SUGGEST ANY AMENDMENTS. THAT'S NEVER, THAT'S NEVER THE KIND OF CONVERSATION I HAVE WITH MY CO-SPONSORS. IT'S NEVER THE WAY I BEHAVE WHEN I'M A CO-SPONSOR. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE WELCOME TO, YOU KNOW, I, I, I APPRECIATE, UM, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM FOR THE SUBJECT AND, AND HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON IT AND I WOULD HOPE SO TOO. AND IF YOU'LL SHARE WITH ME THE COMMENTS THAT STAFF RAISED LAST WEEK SO I CAN SEE WHAT THEIR COMMENTS WERE. RIGHT. IT IT'S FINE IF, IF YOU SHARE, JUST TRYING TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT QUORUM RULES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE NATURE OF BEING A CO-SPONSOR AND AN ITEM IS THAT THEN YOU CAN TALK VERY FREELY ABOUT IT AND SHARE THE DOCUMENTS. OKAY. SO AS I TOLD YOU, I'M, I AM HAPPY TO BE A CO-SPONSOR OF IT. I WOULD AND, AND CUZ I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE ON STAFF, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE NOT READY TO, TO BE ABLE TO SHARE. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING, BUT IF YOU'LL SHARE IT WITH ME, I'M HAPPY TO GET IT FROM YOU. AND IF THE REST OF THE COLLEAGUES WON'T HAVE IT, THEY CAN, THEY CAN, THEY CAN FEND FOR THEMSELVES I GUESS. I THINK THE BETTER POLICY WOULD BE TO STILL LET STAFF CO TO ANYONE ON COUNCIL WHEN SOMETHING GETS POSTED. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, UH, I DON'T NEED STAFF TO GIVE IT TO ME IF YOU'LL GIVE IT TO ME AND I AM HAPPY TO CO-SPONSOR CUZ CONCEPTUALLY I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THE CONCERNS WERE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE SUGGESTED CHANGES YET, BUT I WANNA START WORKING ON THAT RIGHT AWAY AND I'M OUTTA TOWN NEXT WEEK, SO I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO DO WORK ON IT THIS WEEKEND, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORK ON YET AND NEED THAT C STAS COMMENTS TO BE ABLE TO START. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY HAS HER HAND UP. COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY, I WAS JUST SO THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WRAP THIS UP. I KNOW WE'VE HAD SPEAKERS WAITING TO ADDRESS US PUBLICLY SINCE, UM, 10:00 AM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. LET'S, YES, RODNEY, SO WHAT WE HEAR IS, UH, TO POST THE COMMENTS FROM THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION TO THE Q AND A. UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY'S OFFICE ON THIS. THEN I GUESS I'M GONNA HAVE TO INSIST THAT WE START MAKING PUBLIC EVERY PIECE OF CORRESPONDENCE FROM EVERY STAFF MEMBER ABOUT THE ITEMS, INCLUDING IN DRAFT FORM FROM HERE ON OUT ONCE SOMETHING GETS POSTED ON THE AGENDA. I THOUGHT THAT WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT WERE POSTED ON THE AGENDA AND STAFF GAVE ANSWERS, I THOUGHT THEY MADE THOSE PUBLIC. UM, SO, SO THAT ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF THE SAME THING THAT THAT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS HEARING. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WHEN I GET COMMENTS THAT LIKE IN THE Q AND A, BUT REGARDLESS, I CAN'T START WORKING ON THIS UNTIL I CAN SEE WHAT STAFF COMMENTS WERE AND I'M, AND IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO SEE IT, THEN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE POSTED. YOU CAN JUST GIVE THEM TO ME. OH, CAN I? YES, CAN TURN KITCHEN. UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD, UM, LET'S, CAN WE SET THIS ASIDE FOR RIGHT NOW AND UM, AND, AND MOVE FORWARD? UM, I THINK WHAT WE'RE REACTING TO MAYOR IS SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS YOU'RE NOT INTENDING, [00:25:01] WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT IF WE'RE WORKING ON A PARTICULAR IFFC THEN THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STAFF DIRECTLY. IF WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, THEN YEAH. AND IF WE ASK QUESTIONS AS PART OF THE Q AND A PROCESS, YEAH, EVERYBODY NEEDS THAT. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT MAY BE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY, UM, AND IF A QUORUM IS JUST WORKING WITH STAFF AS A QUORUM, THEN THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE STUFF OR THINGS THAT ARE NOT POSTED TO EVERYBODY. CUZ OTHERWISE WE'D BE VIOLATING QUORUM. AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT. SO I THINK MAYBE WE'RE TALKING MORE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE YOU GUYS ALWAYS DO, IF WE POST A QUESTION TO Q AND A, YOU'RE GONNA SHARE THAT WITH ALL OF US. SO I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SH COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. I APPRECIATE THAT. I'VE ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS FILED, I'VE ASKED IT ON THE Q AND A. I THINK YOU CAN RESPOND TO MY QUESTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHARE ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED. ABSOLUTELY. AND AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD MADE A JUDGMENT CALL, THERE WERE SEVERAL ITERATIONS TO THIS ONE THAT WAS POSTED, THEN WE KNOW THAT ANOTHER ONE'S GONNA BE POSTED. WE DIDN'T WANT TO ADD ANY CONFUSION, UNDERSTAND TO THE MATTER, AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY WAS, WAS ACTING IN GOOD FAITH HERE. EVERYONE WAS. BUT IF YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THE QUESTION WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CREATE ANYTHING NEW. WE WILL, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND THE ONLY THING THAT HAS TO BE DISCLOSED OR ANSWERS TO Q AND A QUESTIONS. OKAY, SO LET'S CONTINUE ON. YES, MAYOR, ON ITEM 27, THE TENANT ORGANIZING ITEM, UM, OUR PRIMARY ATTORNEY WILL NOT BE HERE THAT DAY ON THE THIRD, WOULD IT BE OKAY IF, IF WE MOVE THAT TO THE FIRST OR ONE OF THE, UM, SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS? WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE 27TH, OCTOBER 27TH IS THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE. OKAY, SO INSTEAD OF 11 THREE, WE'LL MOVE THAT TO 10 27. THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 27. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE CALL SPEAKERS? [Public Comment (Part 1 of 2)] THANKS. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL SPEAKERS. SPEAKERS THIS MORNING. HAVE, UH, HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THE SPEAKERS SHOULD KNOW. I THINK WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP ON THE TENANT RIGHTS, UH, ISSUE THAT'S NOW BEEN POSTPONED OCTOBER 27TH. UH, SO DIRECTLY THE, THE CONVERSATION IF YOU'RE TALKING SHOULD BE ON THE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT SHOULD BE POSTPONED OR NOT. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND CALL SPEAKERS MAYOR, WE HAVE A SPANISH SPEAKER WHO REGISTERED, UM, IN PERSON TO SPEAK IN PERSON. SO IF WE CAN TAKE THEM FIRST, THAT WOULD BE GREAT SO WE CAN RELEASE THE INTERPRETER. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. JOSE BEES AND AS WE CALL UP MR. PETS HERE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UM, THERE WERE A FEW PEOPLE THAT TRIED TO SIGN UP THIS MORNING SPEAKING, ONE OF THE MACHINES WAS UNPLUGGED TO ACCOMMODATE THE, UH, THE PROCLAMATION THIS MORNING. SO THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. PEOPLE WERE HERE ABOUT THE NINE 15, SO I'M GONNA LET FOUR PEOPLE SPEAK WHO SAID THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO SIGN UP BUT GOT CONFUSED BECAUSE OF THE PROCLAMATION, BUT I REMIND EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, NINE 15 IS WHEN YOU NEED TO, TO, TO SIGN UP. UH, AND IF, UH, STAFF COULD ENDEAVOR NOT TO UNPLUG ANY MACHINES THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE BEST TOO. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, MR. GARS WAS GONNA SPEAK ON ITEM 27 AND SINCE THAT'S POSTPONED, HE WON'T BE SPEAKING TO. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SPEAKING REMOTELY. LAUREN OR TE ON ITEM 25. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LAUREN ORTEL AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 25, WHICH PROPOSES TO SPEND $170,000 TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT TO LAWYERS. THE CITY IS HIRED TO FIGHT AGAINST PAYING THE FAMILY OF LAND AND NOBLES WHO WAS MURDERED BY AUSTIN POLICE OFFICERS IN 2017. I'M SICKENED BY HOW THE CITY CONTINUES TO FIGHT, PAYING THE NOBLES FAMILY, EXTENDING THEIR NOW FIVE PLUS YEAR AGONY THROUGH THE COURTS. POLICE VIOLENCE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES DESERVE RESTITUTION. IF YOU WANT TO AVOID THESE SETTLEMENTS IN THE FUTURE, WE NEED TO CREATE AN OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM THAT TRULY DETERS THE BEHAVIOR BY YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT CAUSES UNDUE HARM LIKE THIS. AND WE NEED TO STOP RELYING ON PEOPLE WITH THE AUTHORITY TO CAUSE HARM AS OUR MAIN STRATEGY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THIS CASE, LOCAL JURORS PROCLAIMED THAT IN AUSTIN BLACK LIVES MATTER AND WE NEED CITY COUNCIL TO SHOW THAT YOU BELIEVE THE SAME. PLEASE STOP TORTURING THIS FAMILY THAT HAS ALREADY LOST SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THIS BEGAN. [00:30:01] I AM 44 AND 76 WILLIAM BUNCH. YES. UH, GOOD MORNING, UH, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TIM COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS BILL BUNCH WITH SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE. UH, THANK YOU FOR OUR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION QUICKLY ON ITEM 44 AND THEN 20 ON 44. UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE MOVE TO NEX OUR WATER QUALITY PROTECTION LANDS IS AN EXCELLENT MOVE AND VERY MUCH SUPPORT IT. I DO WANNA MAKE A, A WORD OF CAUTION ABOUT THE CITY'S OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE, UH, UTILITY SERVICES TO ANNEX AREAS AND TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT YOU'RE NOT, UH, MAKING A COMMITMENT THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME, UH, EXPENSIVE EXTENSION OF SERVICES AREAS THAT ARE JUST CONSERVATION EASEMENTS RATHER THAN CITY OWN. PRESERVE LAND ON ITEM 20, I BELIEVE THAT IS VULCAN, UH, ROAD MATERIALS AND THE NEW WAY THE CITY IS DOING THE, UH, ROAD REHABILITATION IS REALLY TERRIBLE. UM, IT PRODUCES A WHOLE BUNCH OF GRAVEL AND DUST. THE GRAVEL IS ACTUALLY DANGEROUS FOR BICYCLES, UH, SKATEBOARDERS AND WALKERS. UH, ALMOST CERTAINLY THE WATER POLLUTION, AIR POLLUTION FROM THIS NEW APPROACH IS, UH, MUCH MORE HARMFUL THAN THE WAY IT WAS DONE BEFORE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS CHEAPER, UH, BUT IT DOESN'T LAST AS LONG AS WHAT CITY'S SAYING. UH, PLEASE LOOK AT THIS ISSUE BEFORE YOU COMMIT THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO BUY, UH, THIS ROAD BASED MATERIAL THAT'S, UH, REALLY CAUSING TROUBLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IN PARTICULAR IN NEIGHBORHOOD. AND LOTS OF NEIGHBORS HA ARE COMPLAINING. I'M SURE YOUR STAFF IS AWARE OF THAT. SO IF THIS IN FACT IS THAT MATERIAL, AND I BELIEVE IT IS, PLEASE HOLD OFF ON APPROVING THIS CONTRACT UNTIL YOU LOOK AT THIS ISSUE FURTHER. THANK YOU. UH, MAYOR, COULD I ASK THE SPEAKER A QUICK QUESTION? UM, MR. BUN, ARE YOU STILL ON? WE CAN CALL HIM BACK IF YOU'D LIKE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I'LL JUST REACH OUT TO HIM. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST SAY IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE INTERESTED ON THAT QUESTION. WE JUST SPENT AN HOUR WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THAT, UM, AND HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A NEW PROCESS, IT'S JUST THEY GO THROUGH, THEY GO THROUGH A CYCLE WITH THE ROADS AND THIS IS THE CYCLE WHERE A LOT OF ROADS ARE HAPPEN TO BE. UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IMPROVING THE PROCESS AND THE COMMUNICATION TO NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, WHEN THEY COME FORWARD TO DO THIS WORK SO THAT THAT GRAVEL, IF IT IS REMAINING, UM, CAN BE REMOVED MORE QUICKLY. UM, AND, AND BEEN TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THE PROCESS. SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO CONNECT WITH MY STAFF ON THAT, UH, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND AND WHICH ITEM WAS THAT? I'M SORRY. IT WAS RELATED. I MEAN, THE ITEM HAS TO DO WITH THE, THE PAVEMENT. I KNOW, BUT THE NUMBER, DO YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW. CAUSE WE, THAT'S, WE HAD SET THIS UP BEFORE THE ITEM WAS WE'D BEEN HEARING COMPLAINTS AND SET IT UP EVEN BEFORE THE ITEM. WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM, I'LL HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. SO SPEAKING ON ITEMS 48 AND 75, LUKE METZKER. GOOD MORNING MAYOR, MAYOR PROTE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. LUKE METZKER, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENT TEXAS. JUST, UH, REAL QUICKLY ON THOSE TWO ITEMS, UM, I'M 48. I UNDERSTAND YOU MIGHT BE CONSIDERING A POSTPONEMENT AND, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDED, UM, KIND OF, UH, PULLING OUT SOME OF THE ITEMS, UH, FOR A LONGER REVIEW. UM, I WOULD JUST STRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY EAGER TO, TO GET THESE DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND, UH, INCLUDING THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN PROGRAM, WHICH WE THINK WOULD JUST BE TRANSFORMATIVE AND HELPING REDUCE WATER POLLUTION, URBAN HEAT, AND INTRODUCING MORE, UH, NATURE AND WILDLIFE HABITATS AND, AND MORE BEAUTY INTO OUR CITY, AND PARTICULARLY WANNA SEE THAT ITEM, UM, ADOPTED AND PUT INTO CODE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THEN ON, UH, ITEM 75, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE, I CAN'T REMEMBER TOGA'S EFFORT ON THIS. PLASTIC POLLUTION IS A HUGE PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, REAL THREAT TO, TO WILDLIFE, UM, AN EYESORE OF OUR WATERWAYS AND OUR PARKS. AND WHILE THE, UNFORTUNATELY THE STATE LEGISLATURE YOU'RE RESPONSIBLY HAS, YOU KNOW, TAKEN AWAY THE RIGHTS AND CITIES TO, UH, REALLY PROACTIVELY ADDRESS THE PLASTIC POLLUTION CRISIS. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER TOGO'S RESOLUTION HERE DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF, UM, DOING WHAT WE CAN WITHIN THE, THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE LAW, BUT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY THAT WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE, UM, BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS, UH, TO HELP IDENTIFY WAYS TO PRODUCE OUR USE OF SINGLE USE PLASTICS, THINGS [00:35:01] LIKE STYROFOAM AND OTHERS. UM, SO, UM, ARE STRONGLY IN SUPPORTIVE OF THAT MEASURE AS WELL. THANK YOU. SAM PFEIFFER, ITEM 48. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS SAM AND I'M A LOCAL CIVIL ENGINEER. UH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE RUSH NATURE OF ITEM 48, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE PROPOSED FUNCTIONAL GREEN CHANGES. UM, THESE CHANGES DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO DRAMATICALLY AFFECT DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN AND ALONG CRITICAL CITY CORRIDORS IF IT BECOMES OVERBURDENSOME. UH, THE CRITERION THAT'S CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY WRITTEN DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN CALIBRATED TO WORK WITH EXISTING REGULATIONS, INCLUDING GREAT STREETS DESIGN STANDARDS DOWNTOWN, NOR DO THEY APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN PROPERLY TESTED OR VETTED ON MORE TYPICAL DOWNTOWN OR URBAN SITES. THEREFORE, I BELIEVE ADDITIONAL TIMES NEEDED TO STUDY THE SPECIFIC CRITERION AND SCORING SYSTEM TO DETERMINE WHETHER THIS CAN BE PRACTICALLY APPLIED AS INTENDED. THEREFORE, I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE TO POSTPONE THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN SECTION CODE CHANGE AND REQUIRED THAT STAFF UNDERGO A COMPREHENSIVE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS TO IRON OUT SOME OF THESE DETAILS BEFORE THEY REALLY CAUSE ISSUES IN AREAS OF TOWN THAT MOST PROMOTE TAX BASE AND DENSITY. THANK YOU. ANNA AGUIAR, ITEM 48. GOOD, MORE GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS AK AND I'M SPEAKING ON ITEM 48. I CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION IN THE PRESIDE OF THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL AND THE IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR OF THE SAN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM. PLEASE NOTE, I'M NOT SPEAKING, I'M ONLY SPEAKING FOR MYSELF ON THIS ITEM. THE PROPOSED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I DO AGREE WITH THE URGENCY TO ADDRESS A LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. MY CONCERN IS THAT IN INCLUDING THE SMALL PROJECTS, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE PROJECTS WILL NOT BE REVIEWED FOR CONSTRUCTION ON SLOPES IN PURPOSE, COVER LIMITS IN CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. THE RESULT WILL BE THAT ANY FUTURE SMALL PROJECTS LOCATED WITHIN THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE THAT MAY HAVE NOT EVER HAD ANY PRIOR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS WILL CREATE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE RESIDENTS. AN EXAMPLE IS LOT TO LOCK FLOODING. OUR CITY GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE EQUAL PROTECTIONS FOR ALL RESIDENTS REGARDLESS OF WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. PLEASE CONSIDER DELAYING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT CHANGES IN RESPONSE TO SMALL SCALE MISSING METAL HOUSING PROJECTS WITH THE DESIRE DEVELOPMENT ZONE, AND REQUIRE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF TO WORK WITH THE AUSTIN'S EQUITY OFFICE TO ADDRESS INEQUITIES CREATED BY DIFFERENT RULES BY THE DESIRE DEVELOPMENT ZONE IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES. ALTHOUGH IT MAY NOT BE THE CURRENT PRACTICE, WE SHOULD STRIVE TO ENSURE ALL RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ARE REVIEWED FOR ALL ENVIRONMENTAL WATER QUALITY REGULATIONS, WHICH WILL MINIMIZE CONFUSION ABOUT CODE APPLICABILITY, INCONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT, AND POOR ENVIRONMENTAL OUTCOMES LONG SUBJECTED UPON THE RESIDENTS IN CENTRAL AND EAST AUSTIN AND WITH THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. MARA POWERS ITEM 48. HI, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MA POWERS. I LIVE IN DISTRICT PENN. I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE OF THE TRAVIS AUTO BOND SOCIETY, AND WE'RE COMMENTING TODAY IN FAVOR OF THE IMMEDIATE ADOPTION OF I 48, THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY BUILDING CODE. THE NATIONAL ABAN SOCIETY WAS FOUNDED IN 1905 AND OUR CHAPTER WAS FOUNDED 70 YEARS AGO WITH THE PURPOSE OF PROTECTING BIRDS FROM DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER RISKS IN TRAVIS COUNTY. SINCE THE 1960S, TRAVIS ABAN HAS MAINTAINED AND MANAGED THE BANK, THE BUTLER SANCTUARY, TO PROVIDE A REFUGE PRIMARILY FOR THE GOLDEN SHE WAR BLUR. YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW THAT AUSTIN IS UNDER THE CENTRAL FLYWAY FOR MIGRATING BIRDS IN NORTH AMERICA. HOWEVER, HUMAN POPULATION GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN CENTRAL TEXAS HAS OVERTAKEN A BOMBS AND OTHER CONSERVATION GROUPS' ABILITY TO PROTECT HABITAT. IN THE PAST 30 YEARS, TEXAS HAS EXPERIENCED A STUNNING DECLINE IN THE BIRD POPULATION. THE FALL MIGRATION TWO YEARS AGO SAW HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND POSSIBLY A MILLION BIRDS DIE AS THEY TRIED TO MIGRATE THROUGH COLORADO, ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO, AND WEST TEXAS. THE CAUSE OF DEATH WAS FOUND TO BE STARVATION, MOST LIKELY DUE TO A LACK OF INSECTS TO FEED ON. [00:40:01] THIS MASS DIE OFF EVENT DID NOT SEEM TO RESONATE MUCH IN AUSTIN, PROBABLY BECAUSE THE BIRDS FAILED TO MAKE IT TO CENTRAL TEXAS BEFORE DYING. WHILE THE DECLINE OF ALL NON-HUMAN SPECIES IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM, SOLUTIONS MUST BEGIN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AND THIS CODE AMENDMENT IS IMPORTANT TOWARDS SYSTEMIC IMPROVEMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT IN CENTRAL TEXAS. FOR THIS REASON, TRAVIS, TRAVIS ABAN COMES BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE IMMEDIATE ADOPTION OF THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH HAVE BEEN UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR MANY YEARS AND WILL PROVIDE SUSTENANCE IN HABITAT FOR OUR ENDEMIC AND MIGRATORY SPECIES. WE ALSO SUPPORT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION THAT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE A LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE PLAN SO THAT THE LANDSCAPING PROVIDES THE BENEFIT NEEDED. THANK YOU, SPEAKER, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. MICHAEL LEHAN, ITEM 48. UH, THIS IS MICHAEL LENAHAN WITH MAN STRATEGIES INQUIRY DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT CONSULTING FIRM, AND WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN UPDATE ON ITEM 48. AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT, UH, MODEL, UH, THAT NEED A MORE COMPREHENSIVE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. UH, WE DID REVIEW SOME SITES AS A CASE STUDY AND FOUND, ESPECIALLY IN THE URBAN CORE THAT THE CURRENT MODEL WAS UNACHIEVABLE WITHOUT EXORBITANT COSTS AND WITH NO REAL GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, BENEFIT TO THE ENVIRONMENT. SO WE ARE IN FAVOR OF GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, HOWEVER, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS IN ORDER TO GET THIS, THIS MODEL CORRECTED AND ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN IT. UM, THAT'S ALL THAT I, UH, I HAVE FOR THAT, BUT I, UH, ASK FOR YOU TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE STAKEHOLDER, UH, DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, DAVID KING, ITEM 74. YES, THIS IS DAVID KING. I'M SPEAKING ON IM 74. ITEM 74 INITIATES CODE AMENDMENTS AND A FRAMEWORK TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES AND ENTITLEMENTS TO DEVELOPERS TO OFFSET THE IMPACT OF DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT REDUCE DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY OR INCREASE DEVELOPMENT COSTS. VIRTUALLY EVERY SECTION OF CITY CODE IMPACTS DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY OR COSTS. ITEM 74 EFFECTIVELY DIRECTS THE CITY MANAGER TO CONDUCT THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF CITY CODES AND INITIATE THE MOST EXTENSIVE CODE AMENDMENTS SINCE CODE NEXT, THE RESULTING FRAMEWORK IS LIKELY TO BECOME A HUGE LOOPHOLE THAT DEVELOPERS LEVERAGE LUCRATIVE DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS AND OTHER CONSIDERATION FOR ANY AND ALL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. THE RESULTING CODE AMENDMENTS ARE LIKELY TO BE USED CED BY DEVELOPERS TO SHIFT THEIR COST FOR MARKET RATE AND LUXURY DEVELOPMENT TO LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME FAMILIES. COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE TIES TO DEVELOPMENT OR REAL ESTATE INTERESTS OR HAVE RECEIVED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN CAMPAIGN DONATIONS FROM DEVELOPMENT OR REAL ESTATE INTEREST DURING THEIR CURRENT CAMPAIGN, CITY COUNCIL CAMPAIGN ELECTION SHOULD RECUSE THEMSELF FROM THIS ITEM. PLEASE REMOVE INITIATION OF CODE AMENDMENTS FROM THE RESOLUTION AND POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO ALLOW MORE TIME FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES REMOTE SPEAKERS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO IN PERSON SPEAKING ON ITEM SEVEN, ALEXANDER STRINGER. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. I AM, UH, SPEAKING OUT AGAINST ITEM SEVEN AND OUR ADOPTION FOR OUR 2223 BUDGET BECAUSE WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO INVEST THOSE FUNDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND LIKE, THERE'S NO BETTER WAY TO INVEST THOSE FUNDS THAN THROUGH DRUG REHABILITATION. LOOK GUYS, I'M ADDICTED TO FENTANYL AND I, I SELL FENTANYL TO THE KIDS IN AIS D TO LIKE FUND MY ADDICTION. AND YOU KNOW, FIRST OFF, YOU HAVE BIG SHOUT, JOSE GARZA. UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ARRESTED LIKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIMES, LIKE HAVEN'T SPENT A NIGHT IN JAIL. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, JOSE GARZA, YOU'RE THE MAN. YOU'RE THE REAL MVP DOG. LET'S GO. UH, YOU ARE THE COOLEST, MOST CHILLEST DA IN THE HISTORY OF AUSTIN. PLEASE DON'T CHANGE. ALSO, UM, [00:45:01] THANK YOU FOR KEEPING MY DRUG DEALER JAVIER OUT OF JAIL TOO, SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, ANYWAY, GUYS, UH, WE NEED TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE, UM, ME AND THE KIDS, I SELL THAT, UM, FENTANYL TOO CAN, UH, USE THAT FED RESPONSIBLY, AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO BUILD A, UH, FENTANYL DISTRIBUTION CENTER RIGHT IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE, UM, ARE ABLE TO, UH, BECOME SUPERVISED BY NURSES AND HEALTH PROFESSIONALS WHILE WE ARE USING, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO CREATE A THRIVING ECONOMY FOR MY DRUG DEALER, JAVIER. SO, UM, PLEASE CONSIDER BUILDING THIS IF YOU TRULY CARE ABOUT RESTORATIVE JUSTICE. THANK YOU. CHRIS DOYLE, ITEM 24 ON DECK, MARGARET ATKINS. GOOD MORNING COUNSEL. UH, I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 24 IN ORDER TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE AND FROM THE AUSTIN TENANTS COUNCIL TO EDUCATE TENANTS ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS AS TENANTS. SPEAKING AS SOMEONE, AS A CASE WORKER FOR THE HOMELESS, I SPEND EVERY DAY ON THE FRONTLINE OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. I HELP PEOPLE GET INTO HOUSING AND THEN PROVIDE THEM WITH SERVICES TO ACHIEVE HOUSING STABILITY. THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT THOUGH IS THROUGH EDUCATION, THROUGH EMPLOYMENT, THROUGH LIFE SKILLS, AND IT'S HARD TO FOCUS ON THOSE WHEN YOUR HABITAT IS NOT HABITABLE. UM, I'VE SPEAK WITH SOMEONE, I SPEAK AS SOMEONE WHO'S HAD CLIENTS DEAL WITH ESTS, DEAL WITH FAULTY INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I SPEAK AS SOMEONE WHO'S DEALT WITH THAT MYSELF. AND BECAUSE OF HOW RAPID AND DYNAMIC AND HIGH UP THE MARKET IS RIGHT NOW, UM, IT'S EASY FOR A LANDLORD TO SAY, WELL, I CAN GET SOMEONE ELSE, YOU CAN JUST LEAVE. I'LL FILL THE COST LATER. SO I SPEAK TODAY HOPING THAT THIS IS ADOPTED SO THAT PEOPLE ARE MORE FLUENT WITH THEIR, THEIR RIGHTS AS TENANTS SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO JUST LEAVE EVEN THOUGH THAT MIGHT BE AN IMPRACTICAL OR IMPOSSIBLE OPTION IN THIS MARKET. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MARGARET ATKINS, ITEM 24, CHRIS HARRIS ON DECK. CHRIS HARRIS, ITEM 25. GOOD MORNING COUNSEL. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS CHRIS HARRIS, UM, THE DIRECTOR OF POLICY AT AND JUSTICE COALITION AND A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE. UM, I'M MERGING YOU TODAY TO VOTE NO ON ITEM 25. UM, IN 2017, AUSTIN POLICE, UH, KILLED LANDON NOBLES. UM, UH, IN THE RUN UP TO HIS TRIAL, THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT FAILED TO FILE A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT, UH, SO CONFIDENT WHERE A, THAT, UH, THAT THIS CASE WILL GO NOWHERE. THEY HAD NO CITY DISCIPLINE HAD BEEN RENDERED AGAINST THE OFFICERS FOR THIS ACT. NO, NO CRIMINAL DISCIPLINE HAD BEEN RENDERED AGAINST THE OFFICERS FOR THIS ACT. AND SO WE HAD A RARE CASE WHERE A JURY ACTUALLY SAW THE EVIDENCE IN ONE OF THESE POLICE CASES AND RENDERED A VERDICT. AND THAT VERDICT WAS THE LARGEST EVER, UH, VERDICT IN, IN, IN A POLICE VIOLENCE CASE IN THIS NATION'S HISTORY, $67 MILLION FOR A REFERENCE. GEORGE FLOYD'S FAMILY RECEIVED A $27 27,000,007 SETTLEMENT. BRIANNA TAYLORS RECEIVED 12. ELIJAH MCLEANS RECEIVED 15. WE NOW HAVE A, A SITUATION WHERE THE JUDGE HAS KNOCKED THIS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO EIGHT AND THE SAME CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT THAT SO MISJUDGED THE ORIGINAL TRIAL IS ASKING YOU TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS FAMILY, CONTINUE TO DENY HIM THE RESTITUTION THAT THEY DESERVE. UH, IT'S WRONG, MUCH LESS. IF THIS GOES TO THE FIFTH CIRCUIT, WE CAN ENSURE THAT MORE BAD CASE LAW, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE ISSUE OF QUALITY QUALIFIED IMMUNITY COULD BE CREATED. UH, AND THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE BANKING ON THE FIFTH CIRCUIT, THE MOST CONSERVATIVE COURT IN THE LAND TO HELP IT AVOID SETTLEMENTS. YOU CAN AVOID SETTLEMENTS. YOU CAN DO THAT BY CREATING A SYSTEM OF OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO DETER THE HARMFUL BEHAVIOR THAT'S LEADING TO THESE SETTLEMENTS. YOU CAN DO THAT BY WORKING TO CREATE ALTERNATIVE CRISIS RESPONSE SYSTEMS. AS THAT WE'RE MINIMIZING THE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN YOUR EMPLOYEES WHOSE PRIMARY ROLE IS TO USE AND THREATEN TO USE VIOLENCE, WHOSE PRIMARY TRAINING IS IN THE USE OF WEAPONS WITH THE COMMUNITY. UH, WE CAN, WE CAN BUILD ALTERNATIVE CRISIS RESPONSE SYSTEMS, UH, TO HELP MINIMIZE THOSE INTERACTIONS. WHAT WE CAN ALSO DO IS WE CAN WORK ON PREVENTION AND AS WE'VE DONE THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT BUDGET AND [00:50:01] OTHER BUDGET PRIORITIES PREVENT ISSUES FROM OCCURRING IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO AGAIN, HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO ONE ITEM 25 AND HELP THE NOBLES FAMILY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, FRAN. TATTOO ITEM 25 WITH KATHY MITCHELL ON DECK. YES, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS FRAN. THERE'S AN ADAGE THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL, AND YET IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE DOING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. UH, COMING HERE TO ASK FOR ACCOUNTABILITY FROM ALL OF YOU. THE OFFICERS IN THE CASE OF LANDON NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AN ENTIRE JOURNEY. A JURY SAT, LISTENED AND DELIBERATED IN THE CASE, THEY HEARD THE FACTS AND THEY HANDED DOWN WHAT THEY FELT WAS A FAIR RULING. THIS PLOY OF DRAGGING CASES THROUGH THE COURTS TO WEAR DOWN THE VICTIMS, YOU KNOW, AND THE GREAT TRADITION OF OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL NEEDS TO STOP. I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S LOOKING AT ME . I DON'T KNOW IF IT MATTERS THAT I COME, I KNOW I'M A LITTLE, LITTLE PERSON, UM, BUT YOU'RE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND I'D LIKE YOU TO NOT ENABLE THIS BEHAVIOR. WE KNOW THAT IF IT GOES TO THE FIFTH CIRCUIT COURT, JUSTICE WILL NOT BE SERVED. SO TODAY I STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH A FAMILY OF LAND AND NOBLES. THANK YOU. KATHY MITCHELL, ITEM 25. CHAZ MOORE ON DECK. I'M GOOD. CHAZ MOORE, ITEMS 25 AND 27. I THINK 27 GOT POSTPONED, RIGHT? THE TENANT ALL, UM, YEAH, SO I, I'M, I'M HERE, UM, TODAY TO STAND IN, UM, SOLIDARITY WITH THE NOBLE'S FAMILY, UM, AND JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO VOTE NO AGAINST ITEM 25. UM, THIS CASE HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2017. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I IT'S, IT'S SO MANY LAYERS TO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY'S LIFE IS TAKEN, UM, ABRUPTLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, ARE AT THE HANDS OF POLICE VIOLENCE, RIGHT? IT, THE ACTUAL TRAGEDY HAPPENS AND THE TRAUMA FROM THAT. UM, AND THEN A LOT OF FAMILIES ATTEMPT TO SEEK SOME TYPE OF REST RESTITUTION, UM, JUSTICE THROUGH THE COURT CASE OR THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM. UM, AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR FAMILY, IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS. UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, CHRIS SAID EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID ABOUT, ABOUT ALL THAT. BUT, UM, I REALLY HOPE YOU ALL DON'T, UM, PROLONG THIS FAMILY FROM JUST KIND OF BEING AT PEACE WITH THIS. UM, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO BE CAUGHT UP IN, IN SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO. UM, AND TO KEEP IN MIND, WE STILL HAVE OPEN CASES WITH ALEX GONZALEZ, MIKE RAMOS. SO I THINK, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU ALL TO, UM, DO DO WHAT YOU ALL BEEN DOING IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, 8, 5, 6 YEARS, UM, AND REALLY STAYING IN, IN, IN TOW IN LINE WITH POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY. AND I THINK THIS IS ALL A PART OF THAT SAME CONVERSATION. SO, UM, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I, I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME LEGAL REASONS WHY CITY LEGAL WANTS YOU ALL TO APPROVE THIS, BUT, UM, FROM A MORAL AND ETHICAL STANDPOINT, IT'S JUST, IT'S TIME TO BE DONE WITH THIS. SO I REALLY HOPE YOU ALL VOTE AGAINST ITEM 25, SPEAKING ON THE MERITS OF POSTPONEMENT OF ITEM 27, BOB THOMPSON, DONNA GARZA, RODRIGUEZ, EMILY BLAIR, ERICA JOHNSON, JO PLO, CONNOLLY CONNOLLY, JOSE PEREZ, LINDSEY HAYNES, REBECCA TUCKER, SOHAN KREGER WITH STEVEN FRI MOTH ON DECK. STEVEN'S NOT HERE TODAY. UM, GOOD MORNING Y'ALL. UH, MY NAME IS SHAHAN KRIEGER AND I'M PROJECT DIRECTOR OF BAA BUILDING AND STRENGTHENING TENANT ACTION. BAA WORKS WITH TENANTS TO THROUGHOUT AUSTIN TO FORM TENANTS ASSOCIATIONS AND SUPPORT TENANTS IN MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES. I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON ITEM 27, RIGHT TO ORGANIZE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ITEM WILL BE POSTPONED, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE. UM, MEMBERS OF TENANTS ASSOCIATIONS WITH WHOM WE WORK, WE'RE EXCITED TO COME TODAY TO SPEAK OR EVEN TO JUST SHOW UP AND SUPPORT THEIR NEIGHBORS WHO WOULD BE [00:55:01] SPEAKING. MANY HAVE NEVER BEEN TO CITY HALL, HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THESE CHAMBERS BEFORE, AND THIS WOULD BE THEIR VERY FIRST TIME. UM, SOME FOLKS EVEN TOOK OFF WORK, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY. THIS IS REFLECTIVE. THE, THE COMMUNITIES WITH WHOM BAA HAS THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH, UM, MANY FOLKS WHO HAVEN'T PREVIOUSLY PARTICIPATED IN OR BEEN ENGAGED WITH, UH, CITY AFFAIRS. AND IT'S THROUGH THEIR WORK AND THEIR TENANT ASSOCIATIONS AND THE LEADERSHIP THAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED THERE THAT IS BRINGING THEM INTO THESE CHAMBERS. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THIS ITEM WILL RETURN PROMPTLY SO THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MEANINGFULLY SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH Y'ALL AND PROVIDE INPUT ON THIS REALLY IMPORTANT ITEM. IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THIS ORDINANCE RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE VERSION THAT IS IN BACKUP DOES NOT ACHIEVE THE GOALS ARTICULATED IN THE RESOLUTION, WHICH WAS PASSED IN FEBRUARY AS WE SHARED. AND THE TENANTS WE WORK WITH SHARED AT THE NUMEROUS STAKEHOLDER SESSIONS, WHICH HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE PAST MONTHS. UH, LANDLORDS ROUTINELY CALL THE POLICE TO DISRUPT TENANT MEETINGS AND TO KICK TENANT ORGANIZERS WHO ARE INVITED GUESTS OF TENANTS OFF OF PROPERTIES. THEY PREVENT TENANTS FROM ENGAGING IN ORGANIZING ACTIVITIES LIKE COLLECTING REPAIR REQUESTS FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS UNDER THE CURRENT PROPERTY CODE. RETALIATION PROTECTIONS DO NOT PROTECT TENANTS FROM LANDLORD INTERFERENCE OF THOSE KINDS AND ALSO DON'T PREVENT LANDLORDS FROM KICKING OUT THIRD PARTY ORGANIZERS. UM, A LOCAL ORDINANCE THAT DOES NOT ADDRESS, UH, THESE PROTECTIONS IS NOT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT. UM, WE JUST WANNA QUICKLY THANK COUNCIL MEMBER BELLA'S OFFICE WHO HAS BEEN MEANINGFULLY ENGAGING STAKEHOLDERS, UM, BOTH ON THE TENANT SIDE AND THE LANDLORD SIDE OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS TO INCORPORATE FEEDBACK, UH, WHICH WOULD BOTH PROTECT TENANTS AND ADDRESS, UH, LANDLORD CONCERNS. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND BEING BACK THERE BACK HERE WHERE HOPEFULLY WE'LL TAKE SOME ACTION. THANK YOU. QUA BREWSTER , MONICA GUZMAN ON ITEMS 27 48 AND 74. UH, GOOD MORNING MARION COUNCIL. I'M MONICA GUZMAN, POLICY DIRECTOR AT GO AUSTIN BAMO AUSTIN ON ITEM 48, GAVA PARTICIPATED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK GROUP LISTENING SESSIONS, MAKING CLEAR WE ARE OPPOSING THE PROPOSED WAIVER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW AND PUBLIC PROCESS OF NOTIFICATIONS AND HEARINGS OPPOSING THE PROPOSED DELETION OF APPROVED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS, SUPPORTING ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THOSE, UH, PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED POINTS AND PROPOSING NOTIFICATIONS BE SENT IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND WITH AN EXTRA PAGE IN THE TOP FIVE TO SEVEN LANGUAGES STATING HOW TO REQUEST A NOTIFICATION IN THEIR LANGUAGE AS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE WITH CITY CORRESPONDENCE. ITEM 74, THERE IS GREAT CONCERN AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM. FIRST, THE DESCRIPTION. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO OFFSET SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT, CURRENT OR PROPOSED ZONING, CALLING FOR A BALANCE, BUT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN AFFORDABILITY AND DEVELOPER ENTITLEMENTS. THE USE OF BROAD LANGUAGE DESCRIBING ALL DEVELOPMENT, SUGGESTING GIVING AWAY ALL PROTECTIONS FOR NEEDED COMMUNITY BENEFITS FOR THE SAKE OF ENTITLEMENTS. PARKLAND, GREEN SPACE, WATER QUALITY, ALL THINGS FOR PE, ALL THINGS PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND THESE REGS ARE ABOUT IF YOU REALLY WANNA TACKLE DISPLACEMENT AND AFFORDABILITY, THERE ARE STILL UNTOUCHED PLANS IN THE PEOPLE'S PLAN WITHOUT INTRODUCING DEREGULATION. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT INCREASING ZONING CAPACITY OR DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY THROUGH ZONING INCREASES ACTUAL HOUSING AND NO EVIDENCE THAT IT MAKES HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE DUE TO MARKET AND SPECULATION, WE KNOW IT CAN INCREASE COST. COUNCIL IS STILL BASING POLICY RESOLUTIONS ON TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMIC THEORY WHERE PEOPLE MAKING THE MOST PROFIT, THAT IT WILL TRICKLE DOWN TO CONSUMERS WITH REDUCED PRICES. IT DIDN'T WORK IN REAGANOMICS, IT JUST MADE WEALTHY PEOPLE WEALTHIER. IT TARGETS THE MOST AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK FOR REDEVELOPMENT. WE SHOULDN'T BE TAKING WHAT WE CAN GET BECAUSE THAT IS SETTLING FOR LESS. PASS A RESOLUTION THAT ADDRESSES HIGH AND INCREASING COST OF MATERIALS, DISINVESTMENT AND LABOR, WE KNOW YOU'RE UNDER PRESSURE EVERYDAY. GAVA GAVA COALITION LOSES PEOPLE DUE TO DISPLACEMENT AND HIGH COST OF LIVING. RESIDENTS WE WORK WITH, EVEN OUR STAFF HAVE HAD TO MOVE DUE TO THE COST OF LIVING. WE HAVE NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT THE HIGH COST. WE'RE DESPERATE FOR SOLUTIONS, BUT THIS ISN'T IT. STRIPPING PROTECTIONS AND DUE TO DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, AUSTIN WILL BECOME THE PLAYGROUND FOR THE RICH HIGH END AND UPPER INCOME. THANK YOU. CRAIG NASER, ITEM 48 [01:00:01] WITH RICHARD BREER ON DECK. RICHARD BREER, ITEM 48 WITH RICHARD SUBTLE ON DECK. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. MAYOR, PORT TIM, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RICK BREMER. I'M A RESIDENT OF, UH, DISTRICT 10 AND I AM ALSO ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 48, CITY CODE TITLE UPDATES. I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS WITH THE GUARD TO THE PROPOSED UPDATES. FIRST OF ALL, THE UPDATED CODE DOES NOT ADDRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL EQUITY DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN EAST AND WEST AUSTIN. SECOND, THE CHANGES DO NOT REFLECT THE RAPID INCREASE THE NEED FOR EV CHARGING STATIONS IN THE CITY WITH THE INCREASED NUMBER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES PROPOSED TO BECOMING ON LINE BY YEAR 2030. ALSO, IN INCREASINGLY ARID CLIMATE, THE CITY IS STILL REQUIRING, IS NOT REQUIRING DEVELOPMENTS TO USE ZERO, ESCAPING AND ELIMINATE THE USE OF CITY WATER FOR LANDSCAPING. WITH THE INCREASED SEVERITY OF STORMS AND FLOODING THE CITY OF FLOODING THE CITY CODE CHANGES DO NOT INCREASE THE SETBACK FROM NAMED CREEKS, STREAMS, LAKES, AND CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. THE CITY IN CODE UPDATES MAKE INCREASED USE OF ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES REQUIRING PUBLIC INPUT, REMOVING PUBLIC INPUT FROM OVERSIGHT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. FOR EXAMPLE, SECTION 28 DASH 8 42 SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE UPDATES. IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE RELIABILITY OF AUSTIN'S POWER SYSTEM, THE CODE SHOULD INCENTIVIZE LARGE DEVELOPERS TO MOUNT SOLAR PANELS ON STRUCTURES WITH EXPANSIVE FLAT ROOFTOPS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION SERVICE TO THE CITY. RICHARD, SUBTLE ITEM 48 WITH PAUL ROBBINS ON DECK. PAUL ROBBINS, ITEM 49, COUNCIL TWO MINUTES IS INSUFFICIENT TO GIVE TESTIMONY ABOUT SUCH AN IMPORTANT AND EXPENSIVE ITEM. FIRST, AUSTIN ENERGY IS HIDING INFORMATION AND IS NOT BEING TRANSPARENT. AS EXAMPLE BACKUP MATERIAL THAT ATTEMPTS TO EXPLAIN THIS HUGE FUEL COST INCREASE WAS ONLY POSTED TWO DAYS AGO. THE INFORMATION IS PROFOUNDLY LACKING IN DETAIL. THE ELECTRIC UTILITY COMMISSION WAS TOTALLY BYPASSED ON THIS ISSUE. COUNCIL ITSELF WAS TOLD ABOUT THIS ISSUE AT FIVE MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT. THIS IS ALL THE MORE GALLING BECAUSE THE UTILITY HAS KNOWN THIS WAS COMING FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR. SECOND, AGAIN, DEBT FROM THE BIOMASS PLANT IS EMBEDDED IN THE FUEL COST. IF YOU RESTRUCTURE THE DEBT FROM 10 TO 15 YEARS, YOU CAN PROBABLY FIND 12 TO 24 MILLION IN SAVINGS IN THE FUEL COSTS. THIRD, I URGE YOU TO PURSUE INCREASED CAPITAL RECOVERY FEES IN THE RIGHT CASE. THIS CAN REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR A RATE HIKE AND MIGHT PARTIALLY OFFSET THIS FUEL COST INCREASE. IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THIS MIGHT DO TO HOUSING COSTS THEN CARVE OUT A WAIVER FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT ELECTRIC RATES ALSO SEVERELY AFFECT AFFORDABILITY, AND ALL OPTIONS NEED TO BE ON THE TABLE. FOURTH AND FINALLY, WHILE I MIGHT SYMPATHIZE WITH THE DRAFT RESOLUTION THAT ASKS FOR CONSERVATION INDUCING TIERS FOR FUEL COSTS, UH, THIS IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHERE THE UTILITY IS HEADED WITH ITS RATES. AUSTIN ENERGY IS TR AUSTIN ENERGY IS TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE PROGRESSIVE RATE STRUCTURE THAT IT HAS HAD IN SOME FORM FOR 41 YEARS. THANK YOU. CYRUS RE ON ITEM 49 WITH MADISON NER ON DECK. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. UH, FOR THE RECORD, CYRUS RE, I WORK WITH THE SIERRA CLUB HERE [01:05:01] ON BEHALF OF THE SIERRA CLUB TODAY. UH, TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 49, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE RISING COST OF ELECTRICITY AND THE DOUBLE WHAMMY OF A PROPOSED, UH, PSA INCREASE ON TOP OF THE BASE RATE CASE. UM, TODAY YOU'RE CONSIDERING APPROVING NEW TARIFFS RELATED TO THE PSA REGULATORY CHARGE AND CBC. UM, I CAN CONFIRM THAT COSTS HAVE GONE UP. UH, GAS PRICES HAVE GONE UP 280% IN TWO YEARS. WE HAVE HIGHER CONGESTION PRICES. ER HUNT SPENT MORE MONEY ON INSULATOR SERVICES IN JULY OF 2022 THAN THEY DID IN THE ENTIRE YEAR OF 2020. SO COSTS ARE GOING UP. UH, SO YOU DON'T HAVE GREAT OPTIONS ON THE TABLE. YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS TODAY, UM, BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS YOU COULD DO GOING FORWARD. YOU COULD ADOPT A PSA, UH, FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME. NOW, AS YOU CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT, THAT'S ONE OPTION. BUT ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT I, THAT I DO AGREE WITHIN THE MAYOR'S MEMO IS HAVING MONTHLY REPORTING. AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO ALSO SEND ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO THE EUC, AND I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE EUC, BUT THEY ALREADY DO A FINANCIAL UPDATE TO US EVERY THREE MONTHS. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE THREE CHARGES EVERY THREE MONTHS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD. UH, AND THE TWO OTHER THINGS I'LL SAY ARE RELATED, ONE TO THE, THE RATE CASE. I THINK AS PAUL ALREADY MENTIONED, I THINK A TIERED STRUCTURE IN THE PSA IS NOT THE WAY TO GO. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS IN THE BASE RATES, MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL RATE DESIGN ACTUALLY ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO USE LESS ENERGY. THAT'S WHERE YOU DO THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION IS WE, WE, YOU ALREADY TOLD US WHEN YOU ADOPTED THE RESOURCE PLAN IN 2020, WE MAY NEED TO DO AN UPDATE. LOOK AT IT. WE NEED TO DO THAT IN 2023. AND THE REASON WE NEED TO DO THAT IS, UH, ONE, WE HAVEN'T CLOSED THE COAL PLANT. TWO, THERE'S A BUNCH OF FEDERAL MONEY WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. AND THREE, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT SOLUTIONS LOCALLY. UM, BECAUSE AS GREAT AS WIND AND SOLAR ARE, ARE IN WEST TEXAS AND SOUTH TEXAS, WE HAVE MAJOR CONGESTION PROBLEMS. SO WE NEED TO DO THINGS HERE LOCALLY TO REDUCE, UH, PEAK DEMAND AND OVERALL ENERGY USE AND, AND GET LOCAL RESOURCES THAT ARE CARBON FREE AND DISPATCHABLE IN OUR LOAD ZONE. AND, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S MY TWO MINUTES WRAP. THANK YOU. SARAHS, I WANNA BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOUR LAST POINT, AND THAT IS, UM, WERE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE COUNCIL INITIATE AN UPDATE TO THE GENERATION PLAN? WHAT I'M SUGGESTED IS WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PASS THE GENERATION PLAN IN 2020, AND IT'S A GREAT PLAN. UM, YOU TOLD, UH, YOU TOLD AUSTIN ENERGY ON THE EUC, IF SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN, THERE'S A NEED TO, TO LOOK AT IT AND POTENTIALLY UPDATE IT, UH, YOU SHOULD DO SO. AND I'M SUGGESTING I THINK THERE IS, ER, ERCOT HAVE CHANGED THEIR RULES DRASTICALLY. GAS PRICES HAVE GONE UP, UH, AND THERE'S FEDERAL MONEY AVAILABLE. SO I THINK WE SHOULD, EVEN IF IT'S IN A MORE LIMITED WAY, REOPEN THE PLAN IN 2023 AND, AND LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO REDUCE COST TO CONSUMERS. THANKS VERY MUCH. I'M GONNA GIVE THAT SOME CONSIDERATION. I THINK I INITIATED THE LAST UPDATE AND SO I WILL, I WILL TAKE YOUR CONSIDERATION IN MIND. MADISON GESNER ON ITEM 75 WITH SKIER MILLER ON DECK. HI, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME'S MADISON GESNER. I'M WITH THE TEXAS RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 75. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'D REALLY LIKE TO THANK, UH, MAYOR ADLER'S OFFICE AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY'S OFFICE FOR SEEKING OUR INPUT AND, UM, ON THIS RESOLUTION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE BEING BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. WE KNOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT GOAL. THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY, WE WANNA BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT RESTAURANTS CAN'T DO THIS ALONE. IT'S A MUCH BIGGER CONVERSATION THAT INVOLVES OUR PACKAGING SUPPLIERS, OUR DELIVERY, THIRD PARTY DELIVERY SYSTEMS, AND EVEN OUR END CONSUMER, THE CUSTOMER. SO WE ARE SUPER EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EDUCATIONAL EFFORT WITH THE CITY, OUR CONSUMERS, AND OUR PARTNERS AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS RESOLUTION. IS THERE ARE, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR COLLABORATION AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT ACCOMPLISHED HERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY TO SPEAK TO IT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SKIER MILLER ON 75. YES. MY NAME IS SKIER MILLER. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR. UH, MY NAME IS SKIER MILLER. I'VE OWNED AND OPERATED THE COUNTY LINE RESTAURANTS FOR OVER 47 YEARS, AND I ALSO OWN FLY RIGHT CHICKEN. I'VE BEEN A SIX TURN PRESIDENT AT AUSTIN RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION AND ALSO AM THE INCOMING PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION. AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, UH, CITY'S OVERALL GOAL ON THIS RESOLUTION. UM, I WORK FOR FIVE YEARS ON THE, UH, U R PLAN FOR THE RECYCLING ORDINANCE. AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WE REALLY HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND, AND IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THAN WE THOUGHT, BUT [01:10:01] I THINK WE CAME UP WITH SOME GREAT RESULTS. AND I WANNA THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO AND HER STAFF FOR REACHING OUT TO US FOR, FOR INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE MAYOR AND HIS TEAM. AND MARCEL ADO WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. HE REACHED OUT TO US TOO, AND, AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WAS VERY HELPFUL AND WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM ALSO. SO, UH, WE APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING AT THE TABLE. ALL OF US DO, ALONG WITH, UH, OUR THIRD PARTY VENDORS AND OUR SUPPLIERS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MILLER. THANK YOU. WHILE WE HAD THAT SPEAKER, UH, COUNCIL TOVA, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO BE PART OF YOUR QUORUM ON THIS ONE AND, AND ENABLING US TO, TO, TO PARTICIPATE, UH, IN IT. IT'S A GOOD RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. PERFECT. THAT CONCLUDES THE LIST OF SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? SIGN UP THAT, UH, THINK THEY'RE HERE. MR. PAN, WHY DON'T YOU COME ON DOWN WHILE HE COMES TO THE PODIUM. WE DO HAVE ZNO JOSEPH HERE. OKAY. AND SHE IS ALSO REGISTERED TO SPEAK FOR A CHFC. OKAY. I SWEAR TO MY WIFE, I WAS NOT GONNA COME BACK OVER HERE. AND HERE I AM BACK, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS LAWSON, CAMBODIA. WE WENT FROM VIETNAM INTO LAOS IN CAMBODIA. HERE ARE THE PICTURES. I WON'T SHOW YOU THE GORY ONES. SO WHAT I'M GONNA SAY IS I'M THIS, UH, AN ITEM NUMBER 30 32 SUNRISE COMMUNITY. ALL I WANT SAY IS THIS, IS THAT THEY HAVE HELPED A LOT OF MY MILITARY, UH, UH, VETERANS THAT ARE HOMELESS. THEY, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN KEEPS ON CLEANING, UH, THE AREA THAT IS THE WESTGATE TRANSIT CENTER, ET CETERA. BUT THEY COME BACK BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY AND HOW THEY CANNOT RE-ENTER SOCIETY AGAIN. EVEN THE YOUNGER VETERANS, THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THEIR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. AND I'M OVER HERE DAILY FREE OF CHARGE. SO, UH, PLEASE. AND, YOU KNOW, UH, ADLER, I HARDLY EVER USE THE WORD PLEASE TO YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE. WE, Y'ALL NEED TO PASS THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS AND A LOT OF VETERANS THAT ARE HOMELESS. SO DON'T EVER TELL THE COMMUNITY, OH, THERE'S NO, NO MORE, UH, VETERANS THAT ARE ON THE STREETS OR HOMELESS. THAT'S A BUNCH OF LIES. OKAY. I SERVED IN THE FIRST, THIRD AND FOURTH MARINE DIVISION. I ALSO SERVED WITH A FIRST AND FIRST AND MORE MARINE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. SO I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT COMBAT. LA SAN CAMBODIA WAS VERY SPOOKY. PLEASE TRY TO RESOLVE THIS, UH, NUMBER 32 SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME HELP FOR THE PEOPLE THAT NOT ONLY FOR VETERANS, BUT ARE OUT THERE. THEY'RE OUT THERE AGAIN, THEY CLEAN IT UP, THEY'RE OUT THERE AGAIN. SO I'LL GO OUT THERE AND I'LL TELL 'EM I SPOKE TO Y'ALL AND HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOMETHING DONE FOR THEM CUZ IT SURE AS HELL AIN'T HAPPENING. I WAS IN COMBAT. AND, UH, PLEASE HELP THE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND, UH, PASS, UH, AN ITEM NUMBER 32 IF IT'S APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ANNE COLEMAN. I AM A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT PRESIDENT OF COLEMAN AND ASSOCIATES. I PRACTICED IN AUSTIN FOR OVER 40 YEARS. I'M ALSO IN MY EIGHTH YEAR AS A DESIGN COMMISSION MEMBER. AND THEREFORE I'VE SEEN MANY, MANY PROJECTS OVER 80% OF IMPERVIOUS COVER ALLOWABLE. SO WE LOOK AT THOSE ON A MONTHLY BASIS. I AM FOR THE PRINCIPLES OF FUNCTIONAL GREEN AND I DAILY DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THESE PRINCIPLES, AS DO MANY OF OUR PEERS CURRENTLY WITHOUT FUNCTIONAL GREEN. WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING THIS BECAUSE THE EXISTING CODE ALLOWS US TO DO SO. FUNCTIONAL GREEN AS WRITTEN HAS THE POTENTIAL TO FURTHER COMPLICATE IT HAS SOME INHERENT CONFLICTS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY IT DUPLICATES A LOT OF THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE AND ENVIRONMENTAL CODES, WHICH I'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN I THINK A HEALTHY, UH, THING TO REQUEST FROM STAFF IS TO ACTUALLY CREATE SOME SUBMITTAL PLANS THAT WOULD PASS APPROVAL NOT ONLY BY THE LANDSCAPE REVIEWERS, BUT ALSO ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING AUSTIN ENERGY AND, UH, WATER, [01:15:01] WATER QUALITY MANAGEMENT GROUP. UM, THERE IS BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S OWN ADMISSION REDUNDANCY IN THE NEW CODE THAT IS ALREADY BUILT INTO, AGAIN, OUR EXISTING LANDSCAPE CODES. AND A RECENT PUBLICATION OF FUNCTIONAL GREEN IS STATED. THIS GIVES DEVELOPERS A PLANNING TOOL THAT IS FLEXIBLE AND PROVIDES ECOLOGICAL BENEFITS COMPARABLE TO THOSE ACHIEVED BY THE STANDARD LANDSCAPE CODE. SO THEREFORE, THINGS LIKE RAIN GARDENS, THE USE OF NATIVE PLANTS REQUIRED CONDENSATE CAPTURE THAT IS NOW REQUIRED TODAY. HEAT ISLAND MITIGATION, AUSTIN GREEN BUILDING LEAD REQUIREMENTS ON SOME PROJECTS COMPLIANCE WITH THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHICH ARE BEING REWRITTEN TO ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF THESE PRINCIPLES OF FUNCTIONAL GREEN. I'M ON THAT COMMITTEE MYSELF. GO AHEAD AND FINISH. OKAY, THANK YOU. OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, GREAT STREETS, HERITAGE TREE ORDINANCE ARE ALL CODES FOR THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF PIECE OF PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT FUNCTIONAL GREEN WILL NOW BE ANOTHER LAYER OF COMPLIANCE. THIS PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY VETTED, WHICH MY OTHER, UH, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE STATED. SO IT'S TIME TO CLEAN OUT THE CLOSET BEFORE WE ADD ANOTHER TOOL. SO PLEASE VO VOTE TO POSTPONE THIS AND ASK THAT STAFF UNDERGO A, AN ADDITIONAL COMPREHENSIVE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS TO TRY TO, UH, GET RID OF SOME OF THESE REDUNDANCIES AND MAKE IT MORE SIMPLIFIED AND MAYBE EVEN AMEND SOME OUR EXISTING TOOLS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'VE GOT TO KNOW VIA JOSEPH HERE, SPEAKING ON THREE ITEMS. OKAY. UH, 24 27 AND THEN THE A HFC ITEM THREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M ZNO JOSEPH. MAYOR, MAY I ASK YOU A TECHNICAL QUESTION BEFORE YOU START MY TIME? GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. UH, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION POLICY ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND ALSO FOR NUMBER 27, CAN YOU JUST TELL US WHAT THE, OR 25 RATHER, CAN YOU JUST TELL US WHAT THE PUBLIC INTEREST IS? WHY THE TAXPAYERS, I, THE BACKUP MATERIALS DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING? SO I WAS JUST ASKING WHY THE PUBLIC IS BEING ASKED TO FUND THE BUTLER SNOW ITEM. IT INVOLVES A LAWSUIT THAT THE CITY IS A PARTY TO. OKAY. AND CAN YOU ANSWER MY FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION POLICY? I'M UNAWARE OF SOMEONE PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA YET. NO, I'M ASKING IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA. TELL YOU WHAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT OFF THE DI BUT THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND WE'RE GONNA START YOUR CLOCK. THANK YOU, MARY. COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO 24. IS THAT POSTPONED? IF NOT, IT IS COUNCIL MEMBER TO SHAKE IS, IS NOT POSTPONED. 24 IS NOT CORRECT. OKAY. SO I AM SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO YOU FUNDING THE AUSTIN TENANTS COUNCIL AND JUST LET ME CONTEXTUALIZE MY COMMENTS BY SAYING THAT THE MONEY WOULD BE BETTER SPENT IF YOU FUNDED THE VOLUNTEER LEGAL SERVICES. FOR EXAMPLE, AND I'LL JUST USE MYSELF AS AN EXAMPLE. I'VE LOST MONEY, EARNEST MONEY ON A CONDO OFF OF 2222 BEFORE, AND I ALSO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE EVICTION APPEAL PROCESS. AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT MY CASE WAS ACTUALLY NON-SUITED YESTERDAY. THAT MEANS IT WAS DISMISSED. SO MY ATTORNEY FROM BUTLER SNOW ACTUALLY CALLED ME ABOUT NOON, WHICH WAS TWO HOURS BEFORE A JUDGE WONG WAS TO HEAR MY CASE BY UH, UH, VIRTUALLY SO BY ZOOM. AND WHAT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT, UH, ONCE AN INDIVIDUAL IS ON APPEAL, THEY MAY HAVE ACCESS TO $6,000. SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO USE THAT FUND, THE FUNDING FOR THE, I BELONG IN AUSTIN 10 STABILIZATION FUND. IT'S A BIT CONVOLUTED. YOU HAVE TO GET THAT FUNDING THROUGH THE VOLUNTARY LEGAL SERVICES OR A PARTNER THROUGH THE FISCAL AGENT. IN MY CASE IT WAS EL BOYN SAMARI TUNNEL. AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEED FOR THE FUNDING IS IN THE COURT. I JUSTICE COURT BECAUSE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS FACING THE EVICTION PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S RETALIATORY EVICTION, WHICH IS THE CASE THAT I HAVE, UM, SPECIFICALLY, THEY NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO TWO MONTHS RENT IMMEDIATELY. SO YOU HAVE TO PAY THE RENT INTO THE REGISTRY WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF THE JUSTICE COURT RULING. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE RENT AGAIN WHEN IT'S DUE ACCORDING TO THE LEASE. AND SO I APPRECIATE AUSTIN TENANTS COUNCIL, BUT THEY ARE LAY PEOPLE MAYOR AND THE MONEY NEEDS TO GO TO LAWYERS. AND SO BUTLER SNOW, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ETHAN. GLENN, HE WAS AN AWESOME ATTORNEY. HE [01:20:01] WAS PRO BONO, AND SO THAT IS WHERE THE FUNDS, UH, NEED TO BE. AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR POSTPONING, UH, 27 AS WELL AND WHAT ASK YOU TO PUT THE RETALIATION LANGUAGE, UH, FROM PROPERTY CODE 92.331 INTO THE, UH, LOCAL ORDINANCE. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GLADLY ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME AND WE'LL TALK TO YOU OFF THE RECORD TOO. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. YOU WANT ME TO STAY UP HERE FOR YOU? NO, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE SET NEXT SPEAKER FOR H OH, I'M SORRY FOR H OH, FOR HFC? YES. UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND DO IT. IS IS HFC FOLKS HERE? OKAY. WE MAY JUST GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. UH, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND PAUSE FOR JUST A MOMENT AND RECESS THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE AT 1137. [Austin Housing and Finance Corporation Meeting] UH, AND I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CONVENE THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION MEETING HERE ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2022. WE'RE IN THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, CHAMBERS. UM, THERE IS A, UH, QUORUM OF THE DIRECTORS PRESENT. UH, LET'S CALL PUBLIC SPEAKERS. MS. JOSEPH, WHY DON'T YOU COME ON UP AND SPEAK TO US. ZNO JOSEPH ON ITEM THREE. THANK YOU. HEY, MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M ZNO JOSEPH. I SIGNED UP FOR ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE RYAN DRIVE PROJECT, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE BRIEF COMMENTS. UH, IN GENERAL, I AM OPPOSED TO YOU REC, UH, TO THE DENSITY. UH, SPECIFICALLY I JUST WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT NORTH OF US 180 3, YOU TEND TO PUT OVER A HUNDRED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS THERE, WHEREAS, UH, SOUTH OF US, 180 3, UH, THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 50. AND SO I BELIEVE THE RYAN PROJECT IS A GOOD ONE. UH, BUT I WOULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBER POOL TO RECOGNIZE SPECIFICALLY THAT, UH, ESP SPARROW RUTLAND, IF I CAN USE THAT AS A COMPARISON, HAS 171 UNITS AND 101 OF THOSE UNITS ARE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THAT'S ON ROUTE TWO 40, RUTLAND, WHICH WAS ELIMINATED. SO WHERE YOU HAVE ROBUST TRANSIT, YOU HAVE FEWER, UH, UH, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS. AND SO THE RYAN PROJECT IS ONE THAT'S INDICATIVE OF THAT. AND I JUST WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S DISCRIMINATORY. IT VIOLATES TITLE SIX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT IN 1964. AND WHILE IT IS TRUE THAT IT'S MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S TRUE THAT YOU WILL HAVE SOME LOW INCOME RESIDENTS THERE, IT IS NOWHERE NEAR THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY THAT YOU HAVE NORTH OF US, 180 3. AND SO I WOULD ASK DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE TO RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO HAVE AN EQUITABLE SYSTEM AND TO LOOK ALSO, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE A HIGHLAND VILLAGE, AGAIN, THAT'S 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME. AND SO, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR RYAN DRIVE, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT SOME LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE, BUT AFRICAN AMERICANS IN PARTICULAR, UH, DON'T AVERAGE 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME. THEY AVERAGE ABOUT, UH, 60% AREA MEDIAN INCOME, LESS THAN $50,000. AND THE HISPANICS ARE IN THAT CATEGORY TOO. AND SO I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE, UM, THAT YOU ARE CREATING CONCENTRATIONS OF POVERTY NORTHEAST AUSTIN. AND, UH, THAT IS WHY I'M OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GLADLY ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. WHILE WE'RE IN THE HSE MEETING, CAN YOU TAKE US THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA QUICKLY? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. UH, GOOD MORNING, MR. PRESIDENT. GOOD MORNING. UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS. MY NAME IS JAMES MAY. I'M THE, UH, HOUSING AND HOUSING AND PLANNING, UH, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICER. UH, IN YOUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, YOU HAVE FOUR ACTION ITEMS. THE FIRST IS A, AN AMENDMENT TO THE CERTIFICATE OF FORMATION AND BYLAWS FOR THE, UH, NONPROFIT CONTROLLING THE LABOR TODD DEVELOPMENT ON 900 GARDNER ROAD. THE SECOND IS AN A, UH, THE CREATION OF THE A HFC RYAN DRIVE NONPROFIT CORPORATION, UH, TO CONTROL THE PROPERTY AT, UH, 69 9 RYAN DRIVE. UH, AND THE FINAL TWO ITEMS ARE TO SET PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PRIVATE ACTIVITY BONDS. UH, ONE FOR THE ARBS AT CREEKSIDE DEVELOPMENT AND THE SECOND FOR THE LIVE MAKE HOUSING PARTNERS DEVELOPMENT. UH, THE, WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT THESE, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS BE SET FOR, UH, OCTOBER, I'M SORRY, YES. FOR OCTOBER 27TH. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AIR PROAM. UM, A QUESTION, OBVIOUSLY, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE LIAD PROPERTY CAN INCREASE BY 61 UNITS. CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT? THE, UH, UM, IS A SHIFT IN, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT. UH, WE CAN GET, UH, SOME MORE SPECIFIC, UH, DETAILS FOR YOU, UH, SHORTLY. UM, HOWEVER, IT'S, UH, UH, AS THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPED OUT AND WE WERE ABLE TO REQUIRE TO ACQUIRE MORE PROPERTY NEARBY, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD MORE UNITS. OKAY. SO IT WAS A QUESTION OF HA ADD A MORE PROPERTY. [01:25:01] IT WAS A, IT WAS AN ACQUISITION. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? UM, COUNCIL POOL MAKES THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, EZ SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ON CONSENT AGENDA? LET'S TAKE A VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. THOSE OPPOSED, I'M SORRY. YEAH, THAT'S, I WOULD RAISE MY HAND. I DIDN'T KNOW THOUGHTS. YEAH, THOSE OPPOSED, I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY VOTING NO. AND I HAVE THE REST OF THE DIAS VOTING. YES. UH, THE CONSENT AGENDAS PASSED. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, THAT TAKES CARE OF ALL OUR BUSINESS. THE, UH, AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION MEETING IS ADJOURNED, UH, HERE AT, UH, 1142. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECONVENE THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 1142. UH, WE ARE NOW BACK TODAY IS, UH, STILL OCTOBER 13TH, 2022. CARLIE. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA AFTER WE DO THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, THERE ARE TWO THINGS. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY WOULD TAKE, SEE IF WE COULD TAKE CARE OF BEFORE LUNCH. THAT MIGHT HELP US FOR THE REST OF THE DAY. THE FIRST IS TO DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GONNA POSTPONE 48 OR NOT, SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO WORK ON OVER LUNCH. AND THE SECOND, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ABLE TO HANDLE THE AUSTIN ENERGY MATTER OR IF THAT'S GONNA TAKE US MORE TIME, BUT IF WE COULD DO THAT, THEN WE COULD LET A LOT OF PEOPLE GO. BUT LET'S BEGIN WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S ITEMS ONE THROUGH 44 AND ITEMS 71 THROUGH 79. I'M SHOWING THE FOLLOWING ITEMS BEING PULLED. HOUSE MEMBER KITCHEN. DO YOU NEED TO PULL 32 AND 33? YEAH, I DO. OKAY. SO WE'RE PULLING 32 AND 33. ALSO. ITEM NUMBER 39 AND 74. UH, AGAIN, THOSE ITEMS ARE 32, 33, 39, AND 74. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTEZ MAKES THE MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER POOLS I DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTEZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER OF EVAN. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU COLLEAGUES. WE DO HAVE A, A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. UM, ONE OF THEM, THE TENANTS RIGHT TO ORGANIZE HAS BEEN POSTPONED, UM, I BELIEVE FOR A PRESENTATION ON THE 27TH. AND FOR COUNCIL, HAVE A CONSIDERATION ON WHEN IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE TIME TO CONSIDER THAT. UH, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO PASS STRONG TENANT PROTECTIONS IN THAT WE DO MORE FOR RENTERS AT AUSTIN. WE KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF AUSTINITE ARE RENTERS. AND GIVEN THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN, IS INCUMBENT ON US, UH, TO TAKE ACTION. SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE AS PART OF THIS CONSENT AGENDA THAT WE HAVE, UM, MUCH NEEDED IN CRITICAL FUNDING FOR THE TENANT'S RIGHTS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH WILL GO A LONG WAY IN EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT RIGHTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO RENTERS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING MEDIATION SERVICES AND SUPPORT, UH, FOR, FOR TENANTS. AND OF COURSE, UH, WITH THE TENANTS RIGHTS TO ORGANIZE, IT'S, IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT IT IS POSTPONED. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS, UH, TAKING PLACE. THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE ORDINANCE COMES BACK, UM, IN A WAY THAT EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH. AND, UM, AND, UM, AND SO FOR THAT, I, I, OF COURSE, SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT, UM, BUT KNOW THAT THAT TENANT'S RIGHT TO ORGANIZE WILL GO, ALSO GO A LONG WAY IN PROVIDING, UH, MUCH NEEDED PROTECTIONS AGAINST LANDLORD RETALIATION. SO, WITH THE, WITH THAT, JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME COMMENTS. UM, AND, AND THANK COUNCIL VELA FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORTING OUR RENTERS AND, AND FOR THIS COUNCIL FOR, FOR OF THEIR SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UH, UH, DIRECTOR MCNE, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON ITEM 12. UH, DIRECTOR MELIA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, YESTERDAY ALSO FOR MEETING, UH, WITH MY OFFICE AND, UH, SOME OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS JUST FOR EVERYONE'S, ITEM 12 IS A CONSTRUCTION OF TWO PARKS, ONE AT THE HIGHLAND AND ONE IN THE BROWNIE. AND, UM, THE ONE CONCERN THAT WAS OUTSTANDING WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHLAND, UH, PARK IS KIND OF THE ONLY PARK THERE FOR THE HIGHLAND NEIGHBORHOOD, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ST. JOHN'S WEST OF I 35, UH, AREA. AND, UH, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO MAINTAIN ACCESS TO AT LEAST THE ALREADY BUILT A PLAYGROUND THAT IS IN PLACE THERE DURING CONSTRUCTION. UH, WOULD THAT BE A POSSIBLE SIR? KIMBERLY MCNELEY SERVING AS A DIRECTOR FOR PARKS AND RECREATION COUNCIL MEMBER BELLA, THE DEPARTMENT CAN WORK WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, ENTITY THAT WILL BE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE TO ALLOW FOR MAXIMUM, UH, ACCESS TO THAT SPACE. I JUST, I WANNA BE A HUNDRED PERCENT, UM, TRANSPARENT AND SAY I CAN'T, I CAN'T GUARANTEE AT ALL TIMES, BUT TO THE MAXIMUM LEVEL POSSIBLE, THERE'S [01:30:01] A, THERE'S A MECHANISM FOR US TO WORK THAT OUT. I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND I KNOW THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN, YOU KNOW, AN RFP AND IT WAS A LOW BID, UH, UH, PROCESS. SO I KNOW WE CAN'T CHANGE THE, THE, THE, THE KIND OF TERMS OF THE CONTRACT AT THIS POINT, BUT IF, IF YOU COULD JUST TALK TO THEM IF A CHANGE ORDER IS POSSIBLE THAT WON'T, UH, UNNECESSARILY OR, OR, YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVELY DELAY THE PROJECT AND IT'S NOT GONNA COST A LOT OF MONEY, WE CAN MAINTAIN ACCESS TO THAT PLAYGROUND JUST SO THAT THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO AND, AND, AND RECREATE, UH, UH, THAT I WOULD BE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. AND AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR WORK. WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PARK. OKAY, THANK YOU. NOTHING FURTHER, GUYS ARE PULL ON ITEMS. 71. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT, UH, ON CONSENT WE ARE APPROVING OPTION ONE, THE BRAS BANKRUPTCY. I'M SORRY, WHICH, WHICH ITEM NUMBER? I'M SORRY. ITEM 71 ON CONSENT? YES. UM, APPROVING, PROVING WHICH ONE? OPTION ONE. OKAY. IS TAKING THE MONEY NOW DISCUSSING EXECUTIVE AS DISCUSSION? YES. GOTCHA. THANK FORWARD WITH THAT DIRECTION. GOTCHA. YES, GO AHEAD. UM, I WANTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS FOR ITEM 26, WHICH IS THE APPOINTMENT TO THE ATP BOARD. UH, WE ARE REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT TO THE NEXT MEETING. UM, AS LAID OUT IN THE ATP BYLAWS, THE RE REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR THE ATP CONSISTS OF MYSELF AS CHAIR OF THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS AS CHAIR OF THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE, AND THE CHAIRS OF THE CORRESPONDING COMMITTEES FOR CAP METRO, WHICH CURRENTLY INCLUDE WADE COOPER AND ERIC STRATTON. UM, THE REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS BEEN MEETING AND INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES. WE ARE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A STRONG POOL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DEVOTE CONCERNABLE TIME TO THE SUCCESS OF PROJECT CONNECT AND TO ATP. AS WE NARROWED DOWN THE OPTIONS, UM, WE WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. WE RECOGNIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS APPOINTMENT, AND WE ARE HOPING TO ANNOUNCE OUR NOMINEE SOMETIME LATE NEXT WEEK IN TIME FOR THE NEXT CAP METRO AND COUNCIL MEETINGS. UM, SO WE SHOULD HAVE THAT TO YOU NEXT WEEK. AND I KNOW SOME OF OUR MEMBERS ON THE CAP METRO AND YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT IN TIME, UM, TO HAVE SOME TIME TO REVIEW THAT BEFORE CAP METRO. AND THEN I JUST WANNA, UM, THROW OUT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS AT WORK SESSION OR MAYBE, UM, MARY, YOU AND I CAN TALK ABOUT. UM, I AM CONCERNED THAT WE MAY NEED TO HAVE AN INTERIM MEMBER OF ATP FOR, UM, JANUARY AT LEAST, IF NOT, UM, DECEMBER AND JANUARY, DEPENDING ON THE MEETING TIMES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE A LAPSE OF HAVING SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD BEFORE THE NEW COUNCIL APPOINTS. UM, WHO'S GOING TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE? UM, ASSUMING YOU DON'T WANNA SHOW UP IN JANUARY, FOR THE MEETING, FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO PROPOSE TO THE BODY OR YEAH. CUSTOMER KITCHEN. UH, YES, I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK OF THE REVIEW COMMITTEE. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT FOR THE FIRST, UM, APPOINTMENTS TO ATP AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERESTED, UH, WELL QUALIFIED, UM, APPLICANTS. SO I APPRECIATE, UH, THE WORK OF THE MAYOR PRO TIM, UH, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS. I ALSO WANNA LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT, UM, I THINK THIS TIMEFRAME WORKS. THE ATP OCTOBER BOARD WAS, UH, YEAH, ATP OCTOBER BOARD MEETING WAS, UM, UH, WAS CANCELED. AND SO THE NEW APPOINTEE WILL NOT BE MISSING ANY ATP BOARD MEETING, UH, OR ANY, THE ADDITIONAL ATP BOARD MEETINGS BY TAKING THIS TIME. AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL VOTES ON AND THE CAP METRO BOARD VOTES ON WHOEVER THAT APPOINTEE IS, UM, SOON. SO I THINK THIS TIMEFRAME WORKS AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL, UH, THE REVIEW COMMITTEE WORKING WITH THAT TIMEFRAME. UH, WITH REGARD TO, UM, WELL, WE CAN TALK OFFLINE. I HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT I'M GOING TO BE PROPOSING, UH, TO THE ATP BYLAWS. ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED AND THAT INVOLVES A, UM, ALLOWING FOR AN ALTERNATE, UH, ALLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CAP METRO TO EACH, UH, APPOINT AN ALTERNATE FOR THEIR APPOINTEE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT ADDRESS THE SITUATION THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING MAY PRO TIM, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FURTHER. AND, AND THAT HAS BEEN A PROPOSAL THAT THE CAP METRO BOARD HAS BEEN WORKING ON MAKING THOSE CHANGES TO THE ATP, UM, BYLAWS, AND IT JUST HASN'T MADE ITS WAY TO US YET. SO WE CAN BE TALK, WE CAN CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. I THINK. SO WE SHOULD ADD TO THAT CONVERSATION, UM, UM, [01:35:01] CAMPO, UH, TO SEE IF WE SHOULD, UH, MOVE AHEAD ON HERE, SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, UH, MAKING, SEEING IF THE BODY WANTS TO, TO HAVE, UM, COUNCILMAN FUENTES MOVED THERE. AND THE QUESTION IS, I BELIEVE I WAS ADDED IN THE LAST COUNCIL. WAS THAT DONE? YES. OKAY. SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT ALREADY. OKAY, GOOD. WE'RE GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS? YES, AND WE WERE GLAD TO SEE COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTEZ AT THE LAST MEETING GETTING, GETTING HER, UH, ADJUSTMENT MADE TO BEING ON THE CAMPO BOARD. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO BE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL CO-SPONSOR TO ITEM 75, THE SINGLE USE PLASTICS ITEM, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE, THE ORIGINAL SPONSORS. UM, THIS IS PROBABLY A CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN ONGOING, UM, BUT DEFINITELY SINCE THE CLEAN CREEK'S REPORT CAME OUT THAT, UM, WATERSHED PROTECTION AND RESOURCE RECOVERY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WAS IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE MAJOR SOURCES OF POLLUTANTS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN CREEKS, UM, AFTER STORMS. AND SO I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A REALLY INNOVATIVE APPROACH TO CONTINUING TO BE A LEADER IN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UM, AND I ALSO WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE CO-SPONSORSHIP FOR THE HUNTER 5K FEE WAIVER. UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, KELLY KITCHEN FUENTES AND MAYOR ADLER ARE ALSO CO-SPONSORS ON THIS, BUT THIS IS A WONDERFUL 5K THAT HAPPENS AROUND HALLOWEEN IN MY DISTRICT WHERE EVERYBODY RUNS IN COSTUME. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THAT, UM, THAT 5K IS HAPPENING AGAIN THIS YEAR. SO THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF OUTSTANDING FEE WAIVERS, SO IF PEOPLE WANT TO CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE MORE MONEY, I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY STILL A FEW, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO I KNOW WE PROBABLY WON'T REACH THAT WHOLE AMOUNT, BUT IF ANYONE HAS ANY ADDITIONAL FEW WAIVER DOLLARS THEY'D LIKE TO ADD, WE'D CERTAINLY BE OPEN ACCEPTING OF THOSE. OKAY. GUNS ARE POOL TO THE EXTENT I HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT IN MY, UH, WAIVERS ACCOUNT. OH, WE HAVE OUR NEW WAIVERS ACCOUNT NOW. I HAVE MONEY IN MY WAIVERS ACCOUNT. LOOK AT THAT , I'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, ADD TO THE AMOUNT. I'LL ASK MY STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK, SEE AT HOW MUCH YOU NEED AND, UH, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND SEE WHAT ANYBODY ELSE MIGHT BE ADDING TO IT. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 38 FOR ANYONE INTERESTED. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, KEN TOBO, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER LS, I'M THE LEAD SPONSOR ON THAT, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ADDED TO THE SINGLE USE PLASTIC ITEM. AND THIS IS, THIS IS AN ITEM AND I REALLY APPRECIATE OUR SPEAKERS FROM THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION AND, UH, LUKE METSKER OF ENVIRONMENT, TEXAS, WHO WROTE A REALLY POWERFUL EDITORIAL RECENTLY ABOUT SINGLE USE PLASTICS IN THE DAMAGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND, AND WHY WE NEED TO REALLY WORK TOGETHER TO RE TO REDUCE THE USE OF THEM. AND SO THANK YOU TO OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS FOR BEING HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THEIR WILLINGNESS AND THEIR ENTHUSIASM ABOUT COLLABORATING. THIS REALLY HIT ME A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN I WAS, UM, IN THE PROCESS OF CLEANING OUT SOME CABINETS AND REALIZED I HAD JUST SEVERAL BAGS OF PLASTIC UTENSILS THAT HAD ACCUMULATED DURING, DURING THE PANDEMIC, UM, FROM TAKEOUT AND OTHER KINDS OF, OF MEALS. MY DAUGHTERS AND I PROBABLY LIKE WAY TOO MANY MEALS ON THE RUN. AND, AND THAT SHOWS IN OUR, OUR, UH, TOO MUCH USE OF PLASTIC, WHICH WE WASH AND THEN REUSE AGAIN, AND WE HAVE IT IN THE CAR AND WHATNOT. BUT STILL AN ALL, UM, I HAD ACCUMULATED A LOT AND, AND WAS ABLE TO TAKE IT TO CREATIVE REUSE, BUT I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF THE DEFAULT HERE IN AUSTIN WAS THAT RESTAURANTS AND TAKE OUT DELIVERY SERVICES DIDN'T PROVIDE YOU WITH SINGLE USE PLASTICS? BECAUSE SO MANY OF US PICK UP FOOD AND TAKE IT HOME WHERE WE HAVE REGULAR UTENSILS OR WE, YOU KNOW, DRIVE AROUND AS I DO WITH, WITH SOME OF THAT IN THE CAR TO BE, TO BE USING AGAIN. AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS APPROACH THAT, THAT SEVERAL OF US TALKED ABOUT AND WORKED OUT OF, NOT NOT HAVING IT BE AN ORDINANCE AT THIS POINT, BUT JUST WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH, WITH OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS TO REALLY GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND TO SEE IF THOSE THIRD PARTY PLATFORMS CAN MAKE THE DEFAULT NO UTENSILS. UM, AGAIN, UH, I REALLY ALSO APPRECIATE OUR CREATIVE REUSE HERE IN AUSTIN, WHICH IS A GREAT REPOSITORY AND THRIFT STORE, MORE OR LESS OF, OF LOTS OF USED CRAFT ITEMS AND PLASTICS AND JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN YOUR HOUSE THAT YOU CAN'T RECYCLE THROUGH OUR RECYCLING, YOU CAN BRING TO CREATIVE VIEWS AND THEY'LL FIND SOMEBODY WHO CAN USE IT AND, UM, SELL IT TO THEM. BUT COUNCIL MEMBER S MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC AND CREEKS, TRASH AND CREEKS REPORT. DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE HAD FINISHED THIS, UH, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, OUR WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THE TRASH AND CREEKS REPORT. AND THAT WAS SUPER, SUPER VALUABLE. AND AS PART OF THAT, WE ADDED IN A REVISION TO INCLUDE, UH, THE WATER BOTTLE SITUATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. ONE OF THE REALLY STARTLING FACTORS THAT STARTLING PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT THAT REPORT SHOWED US IS THAT, UH, THE AVERAGE VISITOR CONSUMES, USES AN ESTIMATED 30 PLASTIC BOTTLES PER PERSON FOR A TWO WEEK TRIP. THAT IS EXTRAORDINARY. I THINK AS A COMMUNITY, WE REALLY NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING OUT OF AUSTIN TO BRING A REUSABLE BOTTLE WITH YOU. AND THIS MEASURE, THIS RESOLUTION WOULD ALSO DIRECT THE MANAGER TO LOOK AT MEASURES THAT WE MIGHT IMPLEMENT HERE IN AUSTIN TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT PLASTIC HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. [01:40:01] AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S GIVING VISITORS TO AUSTIN AT THE AIRPORT, A REUSABLE BOTTLE THAT THEY CAN USE AND TAKE WITH THEM AS A SOUVENIR OF AUSTIN, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT JUST GOOD FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT, BUT ALSO A COST SAVINGS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE SPEND AS A MUNICIPALITY TO CLEAN OUR CREEKS AND OUR OTHER WATERWAYS ONCE THEY HAVE THAT PLASTIC IN IT. SO AGAIN, UM, THANKS, THANKS TO MY CO-SPONSORS, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UM, EDITS THAT YOUR STAFF PROVIDED YESTERDAY AS PART OF BEING A CO-SPONSOR. I THINK IT'S, UM, A SOLID PLAN. I LOOK FORWARD MANAGER TO SEEING, SEEING THE PRODUCT OF YOUR WORK. OKAY, THE CONSENT AGENDA AS ITEMS ONE THROUGH 44, 71 THROUGH 79, AGAIN, THE POLL ITEMS ARE ITEMS 32, 33, 39, AND 74. UM, MAYOR YES, THANK YOU. IF I COULD JUST BE RECOGNIZED FOR A MINUTE BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE. YES, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. UM, TO COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY'S POINT, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'VE BEEN TRAVELING AND IN THE AUSTIN AIRPORT, THE WATER REFILL MACHINES ARE GREAT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A RE USABLE CONTAINER. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AS A CO-SPONSOR ON YOUR FEE WAIVER. IF MY OFFICE CAN CONTRIBUTE MORE, IF YOUR OFFICE WOULD REACH OUT TO MINE, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND THEN FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IF YOU COULD PLEASE SHOW ME AS VOTING NO ON ITEM 22. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCIL ELLIS, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, DID YOU WANNA ADD ADDITIONAL FEE WAIVER AT THIS MOMENT? YES, PLEASE ADD $250. THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY, WE'LL CIRCLE UP WITH YOUR OFFICE AND IF WE NEED TO RECONSIDER LATER, WE'LL BRING THE ITEM BACK SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FEES INCLUDED. THANK YOU FOR, FOR LOOKING INTO IT. YEAH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD JUST SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER POOL ADDED TWO 50, YOU CAN ADD TWO 50 TO WHATEVER AMOUNT MY OFFICE ALREADY ADDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. PERFECT. I THINK YOU WERE ALREADY AT TWO 50, SO WE'LL MAKE YOU 500 NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CO-SPONSORSHIP. OKAY. SO ON THE CONSENT, UH, IS THERE, UH, THOSE A FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, THOSE OPPOSED, SO I'M SHOWING IT UNANIMOUS ON THE DAAS COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON IS NOT PRESENT. OH, SHE, YES. AND SHE'S VOTING YES AS WELL. SO IT'S UNANIMOUS WITH THE NOTATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, READ INTO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THAT GETS US TO 1159. SO I WAS SPEAKING AMBITIOUSLY ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO HERE, BUT LET'S DO TAKE A LOOK AT ITEM NUMBER 48, UM, WHICH IS THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE CUZ IF IT, LET'S DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM, UH, FOR, UH, UH, I GUESS FOR A COUPLE WEEKS TO LET PEOPLE GET A BETTER FEEL FOR IT, UH, SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHETHER THEY NEED TO BE WORKING ON THIS OVER, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, KELLY MAKES THE MOTION TO POSTPONE. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO POSTPONE COUNCIL MEMBER VELA SECONDS THAT MOTION DISCUSSION ON THE POSTPONE THE COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. UM, I HAVE A, A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, I AM, UM, WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT STAFF'S, UM, THINKING IS WITH REGARD TO THE POSTPONEMENT. I'M ALSO WANTING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE ARE, UM, IF THERE ARE PARTS OF THE ITEM, UH, THAT ARE, UH, THE STAFF WOULD CONSIDER APPROPRIATE FOR POSTPONEMENT WHILE NOT POSTPONING OTHER PARTS. AND I'M, UH, I'M REACTING TO IN PART THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN AND WHY, WHY? GOOD MORNING MAYOR. MAYOR PROTE, COUNCIL MEMBERS. KATIE COIN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, UH, WE DID JUST ISSUE A MEMO JUST TO MAKE SURE IT WAS VERY CLEAR. THIS IS A, A LARGE ORDINANCE PACKAGE, UH, AND THERE IS A LOT OF EXCITING CONTENT THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD THAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE VERY IMPACTFUL. PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT CAME THROUGH ON TUESDAY. THAT WAS OUR FOURTH, UH, TIME BEING POSTED FOR, FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, SO WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH THEM AND ARE IN SUPPORT OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO POSTPONE. SO I'LL OUTLINE WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT. MM-HMM. . THE FIRST WAS, UM, THE ITEM PERTAINING TO NOT DISINCENTIVIZING MISSING MIDDLE DEVELOPMENT UP TO 11 UNITS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF COORDINATION TO GET RIGHT WITH HOUSING AND PLANNING, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. AND SO PUSHING THAT TO PHASE TWO, WHERE YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED US IN PHASE TWO TO BRING BACK GREENFIELD DETENTION AND STEEP SLOPES, PROTECTIONS WITH MITIGATING ENTITLEMENTS, THAT MAKES SENSE FOR, FOR US TO PUSH. WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THAT RIGHT. ANOTHER ITEM, UH, THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED US TO PUSH IS FUNCTIONAL GREEN. WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. UH, [01:45:01] THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, HONESTLY, OF ANYTHING IN HERE I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT BEING SOMETHING FOR US TO BE PROUD OF AT THE CITY THAT IS REALLY GENUINELY INNOVATIVE. IT ISN'T JUST BRINGING US UP TO BEST PRACTICE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE A LEADER IN THAT THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL OF OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE DONE WORK THAT IS SIMILAR TO FUNCTIONAL GREEN. AGAIN, THOUGH, PART OF MY JOB THAT I'M RECOGNIZING NOW 10 MONTHS IN INTO THIS, IS BALANCING THE URGENCY OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMATE ACTION WITH MAKING SURE WE'RE BUILDING TRUST WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS. THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROPOSAL. UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE HAS BEEN WELL VETTED, BUT THAT WE COULD REVISIT. UH, AND SO PLANNING COMMISSION GAVE US TANGIBLE ITEMS THAT THEY WANTED US TO WORK THROUGH. I BELIEVE WE CAN BRING THIS FORWARD POTENTIALLY SOONER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS IN PHASE TWO, BUT WE ARE ALSO IN, IN SUPPORT, UH, IF Y'ALL SEE FIT TO, TO POSTPONE THAT AS WELL. UH, THE OTHER ITEM THAT THEY ASKED US, UH, TO POSTPONE INCLUDES, UH, THE ITEM RELATED TO DELAYING, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS RELATED TO MAJOR REHABILITATION OF UTILITY LINES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT INTERNALLY WE'D LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO WORK, UH, WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING AUSTIN WATER ON ARE IN SUPPORT OF THAT. THAT SAID, UM, WHAT WAS THAT LAST ONE? I'M SORRY. THAT WAS, UH, THE ITEM RELATED TO, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS RELATED TO MAJOR REHABILITATION OF UTILITY LINES. UM, THANK YOU. YEAH. SO, SO THOSE ARE THE THREE WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF POSTPONING. UH, THE PACKAGE STILL INCLUDES A LOT OF VERY IMPACTFUL ITEMS, INCLUDING MAKING SURE THAT IN MOST SCENARIOS, GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT IS MANDATED AS, UH, WHAT TOOL NEEDS TO BE USED FOR WATER QUALITY CONTROLS. UH, AS NEW SITES DEVELOP, THIS IS BEST PRACTICE. I'M COMING, COMING TO Y'ALL FROM PRIVATE SECTOR. UM, PRIVATE SECTOR DESIGN AND PLANNING. GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR, FOR WATER QUALITY COMPLIANCE, FOR WATER QUALITY CONTROLS IS BEST PRACTICE. WE'VE SEEN A SHIFT, EVEN JUST THE MARKET HAS DRIVEN A SHIFT IN, UH, THE WAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN OCCURRING WITHIN OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. AND THOSE TYPES OF CONTROLS HAVE BEGUN TO OUTPACE, UM, CONVENTIONAL CONTROLS IN, IN THE LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS. UM, SO HAPPY TO TALK MORE ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS. ONE MORE ITEM, UH, THAT IS VERY IMPACTFUL IS DOWNSTREAM OF LONGHORN DAM. UH, THE ENHANCED PROTECTIONS FOR, UM, UH, ALL OF THE PROPERTIES, UH, ADJACENT TO THE COLORADO RIVER DOWNSTREAM OF LONGHORN DAM WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY EAST SIDE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS TO BE ADDED TO COUNCIL MEMBER TOGO'S RESOLUTION INITIALLY. UM, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING WITH THAT WE SEE AS VERY IMPACTFUL FOR PROTECTING RESIDENTS, UH, AND, AND, UH, LANDOWNERS ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, FROM VERY EROSIVE SOILS THAT ARE HARD TO PREDICT. UH, AND WE'VE PROVIDED SOME RESPONSES AND BACKUP ON THAT ITEM. UM, BOTH OF THOSE ARE STILL INCLUDED AS WELL AS A SUITE OF OTHER ITEMS, INCLUDING THE WAY WE SEE PARKING LOTS DRAIN. UH, I'LL, I'LL STOP THERE. UH, MAYOR, COULD I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION? UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANTED TO UN UNDERSTAND. I AM, I AM VERY INTERESTED IN PROCEEDING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITH ALL OF THESE ITEMS. I CAN SEE POSTPONING SOME OF THEM, BUT I CANNOT SEE POSTPONING ALL OF THEM. AND SO I WON'T BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. I AM INTERESTED THOUGH, IN, OR I HAVE HEARD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ITEM RELATED TO THE, UH, DOWNSTREAM OF THE DAM. SURE. AND, UM, SO I'M WILLING TO POSTPONE THAT AS LONG AS WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT POSTPONING IT FOR TWO WEEKS. THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD ARE CONCERNS, I THINK IT'S TWO WEEKS WHENEVER OUR NEXT NEXT MEETING IS. THE CONCERNS I HAVE HEARD RELATE TO, UM, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, DESIRE FOR, FOR CONVERSATION WITH SOME STAKEHOLDERS. SO, UM, SO, SO MAYOR THAT WHERE I STAND IS I, I CANNOT SUPPORT, UH, POSTPONING THE ENTIRE ITEM. I AM, UM, I'M OPEN TO POSTPONING THE IT THAT THE STAFF HAS AGREED TO. AND ALSO I WOULD ADD TO THAT THE DOWNSTREAM, UH, DAMN ITEM. BUT AGAIN, ONLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POSTPONING TO OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AT SOME POINT. LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE. FIRST, COUNCILWOMAN KELLY, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION TO POSTPONE. DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS IT? I SHOULD HAVE GONE TO YOU FIRST. THAT'S OKAY. UM, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FROM STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, UM, RAISING THAT POINT. I STILL FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT TO BE DISCUSSED WITH STAKEHOLDERS. AND AGAIN, WE GOT A WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT JUST THIS MORNING FROM STAFF THAT I'VE YET TO BE ABLE TO FULLY REVIEW. AND SO I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE POSTPONING ANYTHING BUT ALL OF IT UNTIL I HAVE A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THAT INFORMATION COMPLETELY. AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD APPRECIATE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO ALSO REVIEW IT, GIVEN THE TIMELINE OF WHEN WE RECEIVE THOSE ITEMS. , UH, [01:50:01] I JUST WANNA SAY I, THE CHANGES ARE VERY EXCITING. UH, I, THE, THE GREEN WATER STORM INFRASTRUCTURE IS, UH, COULD DO A LOT, UH, NOT JUST FOR TO CONTROL FLOODING, BUT JUST TO MAKE OUR OVERALL ENVIRONMENT, UH, UH, A MORE PLEASANT BATTER PLACE. UH, SAME THING WITH A FUNCTIONAL GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. AGAIN, VERY EXCITING STUFF THAT NOT JUST WILL HELP CONTROL FLOODING, BUT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP, YOU KNOW, INSECTS, YOU KNOW, ARE KIND OF THE BASE KIND OF CORE, UH, UH, ENVIRONMENT. UH, THAT SET MY CONCERN CONTINUES TO BE THE COST. UH, THERE WERE THE AFFORDABILITY IMPACT STATEMENT. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF POINTS WHERE, UH, STAFF IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS ENOUGH TO, UH, UH, TO, UH, QUANTIFY SOME OF THIS COSTS. AGAIN, I, I'M LOOKING AT, UH, PAGE TWO, UH, UH, ITEM THREE, UH, YOU KNOW, DUE TO TIME AND DATA CONSTRAINT, STAFF HAS NOT QUANTIFIED THESE COSTS. IN ADDITION, I'M, I'M CONCERNED WITH MOVING THESE FORWARD. AGAIN, WE ALL CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH MAKING THESE CHANGES. THOSE COSTS CAN BE BALANCED WITH, UH, ENTITLEMENT CHANGES WITH, YOU KNOW, CHANGES TO, YOU KNOW, ZONING OR HEIGHT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. I WANNA GET TO A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE NEUTRAL, WHERE THIS ITEM WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND WE CAN DO SOMETHING VERY POSITIVE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT AT ZERO COST TO AFFORDABILITY, UM, WE'RE NOT THERE YET. THIS DRAFT IS NOT THERE YET AND I DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE PART AND THEN LEAVE THE OTHER PART FOR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES. UM, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, ESPECIALLY WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, SOME OF THE, THE ESTIMATES, UH, AGAIN FROM THE AFFORDABILITY REPORT, THE COST PER ACRE FOR THE, BOTH THE, THE GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN IS BETWEEN 89,200 38,000 PER ACRE OF DEVELOPMENT. THE BIG DEVELOPMENTS, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED UNIT, 200 UNITS, THEY CAN PRICE THAT IN AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE AS BIG OF AN IMPACT. BUT THE MISSING MIDDLE IN PARTICULAR, I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AT 10 UNITS, UH, PER ACRE ON A, ON A, A SMALLER, LIKE A MF ONE DENSITY WAS UP TO, UH, 17 UNITS PER ACRE. I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY 3000, 4,000, $5,000 PER UNIT AFFORDABILITY IMPACT GIVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION WITH HOUSING AND WITH INCREASED HOUSING COSTS IN AUSTIN. I, I CANNOT, UH, SUPPORT THAT UNLESS WE BALANCE OUT THOSE AFFORDABILITY FACTORS AND, AND WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET. SO HOW , THANK YOU MAYOR AND I, I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, UH, PERTAINING TO THIS, UH, ITEM, UH, UH, THE, THE GE GEOGRAPHY OF THAT AREA THERE. IT'S, IT CHANGES A LOT. UH, THERE'S SOME REALLY SMALL LOTS AND THERE'S SOME WONDER THAT ARE WIDER. AND I'M, I'M BEEN LOOKING AT THE MAP AND REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW FAR IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF C A CHILD HAS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF MY BIG QUESTIONS. AND THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, HAVE THEY BEEN, HAVE THEY THE, UH, THE BUSINESS AND THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE RESIDENTS, HAVE THEY BEEN CONTACTED WITH IT AND WHAT'S THEIR OPINION? AND I HAVEN'T HEARD, THE ONLY THING IS THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD IS THAT THEY DON'T NOT, THEY DO NOT KNOW ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING HERE. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN GET THEIR INPUT ON THIS ITEM. SO IT IS MY DISTRICT AND I I, I'VE KNOWN THAT THAT AREA, I, I, MY FUTURE VISION IS TO HAVE A TRAIL ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY FROM ONE TOPLESS. SO I REALLY WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IS REALLY GONNA AFFECT ALL THESE PRO PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, WE GOT A HOTEL GOING THERE, WE GOT A HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX CUZ UH, SOME OF THAT IS A HIGHER OPPORTUNITY AREA. SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT THAT AREA CUZ UH, WE'RE ARE GETTING SOME AFFORDABLE UNITS AND OUT OF THAT, THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AT THE, UH, OLD BOARD AND MILK, UH, FACTORY THAT'S THERE. SO I, I JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PACKAGE. COUNCIL ALICE, THANK YOU MAYOR. I, I TOO LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HERE. UM, OUT OF RESPECT FOR MY COLLEAGUES, UH, DESIRE TO HAVE A POSTPONEMENT TO UNDERSTAND THIS, I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND, AND WILL SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT FOR TODAY. I ALSO WILL SAY I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN THIS APP. I KNOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION TOOK SOME TIME WITH MAKING SURE THEY HAD A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT ON THEIR END AND I KNOW PLANNING COMMISSION JUST TOOK IT UP RECENTLY AND, YOU KNOW, DID A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THEIR ADVICE AS WELL. BUT I KNOW CITY STAFF AND OUR OWN OFFICE [01:55:01] STAFFS WITHIN CITY COUNCIL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, UM, A LOT, ESPECIALLY OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS. UM, SO I, I WILL SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT TODAY. I WANTED TO FLAG THAT THIS CONVERSATION AROUND MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, UM, SINCE WE HAD OUR WORK SESSION ABOUT HOUSING STOCK WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT A YEAR AGO. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M PLANNING ON BRINGING AN IFFC LATER THIS YEAR TO INITIATE THAT PROCESS SO WE CAN HOLISTICALLY LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. UM, I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS BEEN DISINCENTIVIZED OR, UM, MADE OUTRIGHT IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE WITH, WITH THE CODE THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE FUNCTIONING UNDER. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT AND LET FOLKS KNOW ON, ON THE DIAS IF THEY WANTED TO BE INVOLVED, INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THAT LATER THIS YEAR ABOUT, UH, MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING PROJECTS AND, AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE EASIER TO ACHIEVE. THAT'S AROUND POOL. I HAD HOPED THAT WE COULD KIND OF SPLIT THE BABY WHERE WE COULD APPROVE THE ITEMS THAT THERE IS AGREEMENT ON AND THEN SEPARATE OUT, I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THEM IN A PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO KIND OF A, UH, AN OFFERING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE CLOCK KIND OF RAN OUT ON US BEING ABLE TO SEPARATE THEM OUT IN TIME FOR THIS MEETING HERE. SO I, I WILL RELUCTANTLY, UM, AGREE WITH POSTPONE AND I, AGAIN, I REALLY WISH WE COULD PASS TODAY THE THINGS THAT THERE IS NO DISAGREEMENT ON. UM, IS THERE A SENSE ON THE DIAS THAT WE COULD GET THOSE PULLED OUT AND, AND OKAY, SO IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GETTING SOME AFFIRMATIVE ENTHUSIASTIC NODS OVER THERE ON THE OTHER END OF THE DIAS. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS, IS IT IS A PERENNIAL DEBATE ON THE DIAS ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SAFEGUARDS AND THE COST OF BUILDING HOUSING AND THAT THAT DEBATE'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. I WOULD SAY THAT THE MORE DAMAGE WE DO TO THE ENVIRONMENT, THE HARDER IT IS TO CLEAN IT UP, THE WORSE THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE DOWNSTREAM AND, AND, AND DOWN THE ROAD. SO I AM FIRMLY ON THE SIDE OF SUPPORTING THE CHANGES AND THE AMENDMENTS AND THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE GROUNDBREAKING IDEAS THAT ARE COMING FROM OUR REALLY GREAT STAFF AND FROM THIS DI AND THE SUPPORT THAT'S WIDESPREAD IN THE COMMUNITY. WE DO HEAR FROM A FEW VOICES RAISED TO SAY, NO, IT'S GONNA COST ME TOO MUCH TO BUILD. I THINK THERE'S WAYS WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE GOTTA DO IT BECAUSE THE ENVIRONMENT ISN'T WAITING FOR US ANY LONGER AND WE KNOW THAT AND THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS ARE DEMANDING IT AS WELL. THANK YOU MAYOR. MAY I COUNSEL OFFER JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON WHAT'S POSTED OR, OR WHAT IS IN YOUR BACKUP AND THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE? OKAY. JUST LAW. UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL WERE CLEAR THAT THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU HAS ALREADY EXCLUDED THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS TO EXCLUDE FUNCTIONAL GREEN, THE UTILITY LINE COMPONENT AND, UH, THE NOT TO IN DISINCENTIVIZE MISSING MIDDLE. SO THE ONLY ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING POSTPONEMENT ON RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THE, UH, ITEM RELATED TO THE COLORADO RIVER PROTECTIONS. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU. SO COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE. I THINK THERE'S PARTS OF THIS THAT, THAT VERY WELL MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. UM, BUT I WONDER IF WE NEED TWO WEEKS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO ASCERTAIN WHAT CAN MOVE FORWARD AND WHAT CAN'T. AND MY SENSE IS, IS THAT, THAT IF WE POSTPONE THIS FOR TWO WEEKS, WE WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WORK, TO LET SOME THINGS PASS AND, AND SOME THINGS HOLD BACK. AS I, AS I LOOK AT THIS AND AND MANAGER STAFF, I THINK THAT THERE'S A REAL PLACE FOR, FOR YOU IN THIS BOTH WITH HELPING US DECIDE IF WE WERE GONNA POSTPONE IT FOR TWO WEEKS, HELP US BETTER GET CLARITY ON WHAT COULD BE ENACTED THEN AND WHAT NEEDS FURTHER. BECAUSE SOME THINGS CLEARLY NEED FURTHER REVIEW. SOME THINGS I THINK THEY'RE JUST QUESTIONS ABOUT AND, AND PEOPLE ARE NOT SURE YET WHETHER THEY CAN BE DONE NOW OR, OR IN TWO WEEKS OR NEED TO BE MOVED FORWARD. THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN WORK, UM, UM, I THINK IS, IS IMPORTANT. I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDING THAT THAT BE POSTPONED. UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE ULTIMATELY POSTPONED FOR IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE APPROPRIATE OFFSETS WITH RESPECT TO THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO MAKE A CHOICE BETWEEN THE ENVIRONMENT AND, AND AFFORDABILITY. UH, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS NECESSARILY CLEAR IN THE WORDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION USED. SO AT SOME POINT AS WE PUT THAT OFF, I THINK THAT'S AN ELEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM. UM, BUT I ALSO, AND AND THE SAME THING WITH WITH MISSING MIDDLE AND I APPRECIATE [02:00:01] THAT THAT'S GONE OFF. THERE'S A LIST OF DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED. IT SEEMS LIKE THE LEAD ONE ON THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE DSD UH, ON THAT. AND I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE, WERE LISTED AS ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO, TO BE INCLUDED. BUT I THINK THE INTER THE INTERDISCIPLINARY LOOK AT SOME OF THESE IS WHAT I'M FEEL LIKE I'M NOT GETTING, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE, UH, 400 FOOT, UH, CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE DOWN FROM THE DAM. UH, I THINK I, I, I APPLAUD THE EFFORT IN THAT AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. UH, BUT WHAT'S MISSING FOR ME IS WHO IS IT THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS SO FAR FROM OUR STAFF THAT FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT LOOKS AT IT AND SAYS, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU ALLOW FOR TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, ENTITLEMENTS FROM THE AREA THAT HAS THE 400 FEET SO THAT THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY MIGHT, MIGHT HAVE THAT WHICH MIGHT ENABLE THE SAME KIND OF, OF YIELD AND AFFORDABILITY ISSUE TO HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS. AND IF THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT'S WORKING ON THIS IS, UM, OF WATERSHED, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET IT. CUZ THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB OR, OR THEIR DEAL. WHEN, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXPRESSED SOME FRUSTRATION. THEY SAID, WELL, WE WANT TO COME UP WITH OFFSETS. BUT THE ASSIGNMENT GIVEN TO THEM WAS TO APPROVE THE WATERSHED ISSUES AS IT CAME FROM COUNCIL. SO THERE'S, THERE WAS NO, THERE'S NO, NO OPPORTUNITY FOR, I MEAN, WHO IS IT ON OUR STAFF THAT'S LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE AND SAYING, HOW DO WE PRESERVE AFFORDABILITY? HOW DO WE PRESERVE THE, THE YIELD? HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THINGS LIKE DEVELOPMENT TRANSFERS? BUT I THINK HAVING TWO WEEKS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THINGS CAN BE HANDLED NOW, AND BY NOW, I MEAN NOW OR IN TWO WEEKS, AND WHAT THINGS NEED TO BE PUT OFF THE FIRST, THESE NEXT TWO WEEKS MIGHT ENABLE EVERYONE TO GET A BETTER FEELING TO FINE TUNE THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT, UH, SOME OF OUR UTILITY, UH, DEPARTMENTS HAVE STOOD UP AND SAID, WAIT A SECOND, WE WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THIS. YOU NEED TO, TO DOUBLE BACK AND GIVE US MORE TIME ON THE UTILITY SECTION TO POSTPONE IT SO THAT THEY CAN BE INVOLVED. BUT I THINK THAT'S ALSO TRUE OF PERHAPS AT LEAST DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON, ON THE, ON THE BALANCE OF IT AS, AS, AS WELL. UM, SO I, I'M PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. I WOULD VOTE TO POSTPONE THE WHOLE THING FOR TWO WEEKS, AND THEN IN TWO WEEKS WE WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE POSTPONED THE LONGER TERM AND WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF NOW. UH, I CAN'T EVEN TELL LOOKING AT THE MAPS, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE 400 FEET, IT LOOKS AS IF IT EXTENDS TO THE OTHER SIDE OF CESAR CHAVEZ, BUT IN THAT AREA, THAT'S WHERE THE CESAR CHAVEZ STREET NAME IS PUT, SO YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE WHAT'S UNDERNEATH IT. SO IT'S THAT KIND OF THING. LET ME, LET ME GET SOME PEOPLE A CHANCE TO TALK. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK YET. JUST REALLY QUICK THAT THE 400 FOOT PIECE THAT YOU WERE MENTIONING WERE PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERLY NOTIFIED. I, I LEARNED THIS MORNING THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, SO WE ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A POSTPONEMENT ON THAT BASIS, ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. WELL, CAN WE GET AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION PLEASE? I THINK, AND THEN THAT WILL HELP US, I THINK, WITH THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE IF THE NOTIFICATION WAS NOT PROPERLY GIVEN, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO POSTPONE ANYWAY TO MAKE THAT PRO, TO MAKE THAT NOTIFICATION. OKAY. AND I JUST LEARNED THAT THIS MORNING. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THE NOTIFICATION OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400 FEET? IT MAY HAVE HEARD A LOT AS WELL ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THAT ITEM IN PARTICULAR, UM, BEYOND BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PROCESS AND, AND OUR, UH, TIME WITH Y'ALL, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY ADDITIONAL NOTIFICATION AS A PART OF THAT, UM, EXCEPT FOR OBVIOUSLY PLANNING COMMISSION NOTICE. OKAY. DO YOU WANNA ADD? I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THAT TO THAT CHAD SHAW LAW DEPARTMENT, I BELIEVE, ALTHOUGH I, I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THESE AMENDMENTS WERE NOTIFIED AS WE WOULD FOR ANY 25 7 OR 25 8 AMENDMENT. AND, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S INDIVIDUAL NOTICE FOR THAT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A ZONING THAT WOULD BE A, A ZONING RELATED NOTIFICATION. OKAY. AND SO THIS WOULD NOT FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF A ZONING RELATED, THE PROVISIONS THAT I THINK WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW, WHICH ARE THE EXPANSIONS OF THE EROSION HAZARD ZONES AND THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES ARE NOT, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING TO 20 CHAPTER 25 2, OUR ZONING CODE. OKAY. IN WHICH CHAPTER ARE THEY AMENDING? THEY'RE AMENDING, IS IT 30, UH, CHAPTER 25 7 DRAINAGE. OKAY. 25 8, UH, ENVIRONMENT. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE CONCERN ABOUT NOTIFICATION OF PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN [02:05:02] THE 200 FOOT, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD ONLY BE ATTACHED TO A, A ZONING OKAY. CASE. SO, SO THAT'S ADDRESSED. THANK YOU. NO NOTICE, BUT NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO GIVE NOTICE. COUNCIL MEMBER TOK ALL. YEAH. I APPRECIATE OUR STAFF'S WORK. I KNOW IT WAS SPEEDY, UH, AND YOU WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET US TO THIS POINT OF, OF BEING ABLE TO WORK ON IT. AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING IT THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I KNOW THE DISCUSSIONS THERE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY THOROUGH AND THEY'VE GIVEN US SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS. I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BELLA, THOUGH, I DID WANNA ASK HIM A QUESTION. UM, I, I'LL HAVE TO WAIT TILL HE COMES BACK TO THE DIAS. I THINK SEVERAL OF THE THINGS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE BEING AN AFFORDABILITY IMPACT ON, WERE ACTUALLY PART OF THE, WERE WERE PRIMARILY FUNCTIONAL GREEN, WHICH YOU'RE SUGGESTING POSTPONING. SO I, I DON'T SEE ANY AFFORDABILITY IMPACT CONCERNS ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT ARE, THAT YOU HAD BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY. IS THAT CORRECT? IN, IN OUR MIND THERE ARE MODERATE, IF, IF ANY, UM, SORRY, LET ME START OVER. THE ITEMS THAT ARE LEFT ON THE LIST, ONCE WE REMOVE FUNCTIONAL GREEN, WERE NOT OF CHIEF CONCERN, UH, ACCORDING TO, UH, THE AFFORDABILITY IMPACT STATEMENT. THANK YOU. SO MY PREFERENCE FOR TODAY WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ITEMS AROUND THAT WERE NOT CAUSING, UH, LOTS OF CONCERNS. I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT WE NEED MORE TIME ON, ON THE ISSUES THAT YOU'VE RECOMMENDED IN ADDITION TO THE ONE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN MENTIONED WITH REGARD TO THE, THE, UM, ENHANCED PROTECTIONS OF THE COLORADO RIVER DOWNSTREAM. SO IF YOU MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT, UM, I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. I APPRECIATE, UH, DIRECTOR COIN YOU MENTIONING THAT THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN IS REALLY THE, A VERY IMPACTFUL PIECE OF IT. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN, I HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AS THE, AS THE SPONSOR OF THESE MEASURES. I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, AND I WANNA APPRECIATE HER AND HER STAFF ON THIS AS WELL. I HOPE WE CAN MOVE THOSE FORWARD. I'M NOT SURE IT'LL HAPPEN WITHIN OUR TIME ON THE DIAS, BUT, UM, I CERTAINLY THINK IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR WHAT KATO JUST ASKED, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, AND YOU'RE JOINING IN POSTPONING FUNCTIONAL GREEN, THE MISSING MIDDLE, THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE EAST OF THE DAM AND THE UTILITY SECTION. IS THAT TRUE OR NOT? NO, NO. MAYOR. UH, THE FIRST TWO AND THE LAST ONE, THE, OKAY, SO YOU, COLORADO PROTECTIONS, THEY ASKED Y'ALL TO CONSIDER THE IMPACTS. THEY DIDN'T FORMALLY REQUEST THAT EXCLUSION. UH, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED CLEAR GUIDANCE FROM Y'ALL ON TO REMOVE, UM, IF YOU, SO THE THREE THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING POSTPONEMENT ON WOULD BE THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN, THE MISSING MILL, AND THE UTILITY COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN TALKED ABOUT THE 400 FOOT ADDING THAT. UH, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION ON THE GREEN STORM ORDER INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID, DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD SEEK TO OFFSET THE IMPACT AND DEVELOP THE COST SHARING PROGRAM? IS THAT PART OF, OF WHAT'S BEFORE US? DID YOU DO THAT? THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT, UH, I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS IN RESPONSE TO THOSE ITEMS AS I SEE THOSE LESS AS POLICY RELATED AND MORE PROGRAMMATIC RESPONSES, OR POTENTIALLY PART OF WHAT WE CAN ROLL INTO MITIGATING FACTORS IN PHASE TWO. AND SO FOR ANY MARGINAL INCREASE THAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, FROM GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, IF PASS, WE'LL ROLL THAT INTO THE WAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MITIGATION HOLISTICALLY IN PHASE TWO. IN TERMS OF A COST SHARING PROGRAM. UH, I'M, IT, THIS IS NOT, UH, ANYTHING THAT I'M READY TO BRING FORWARD YET, BUT I WILL SAY I HAVE THREE OVERARCHING GOALS IN MY SSPR MY ANNUAL REVIEW WITH MY BOSS. ONE OF THEM IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE FUNDING TO HELP OFFSET, UH, THE COST OF AFFORDABLE PROJECTS USING, USING CITY FUNDING FOR WATER QUALITY COMPLIANCE AND DRAINAGE. UH, AND SO IF THAT IS POSSIBLE, I WILL BRING IT TO YOU AS SOON AS I CAN. OKAY. SO, AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE THREE THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE DIAS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL FOURTH ONE MM-HMM. , THE FIFTH ONE, THE GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID DEVELOP, UH, OFFSETS AND DEVELOP A COST SHARING PROGRAM. BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. NO. OKAY. MAYOR PROTE, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION OKAY. ON THE FLOOR. UM, AND I WILL STATE MY MOTION AND THEN SPEAK, SPEAK TO IT. OKAY. UM, I MOVE TO, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND THE VERSION BEFORE US, HAS THE THREE THINGS DELAYED THAT ARE IN THE MEMO. I MOVE TO POSTPONE THAT VERSION THAT'S BEFORE US TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. UM, DELAYING THOSE THREE AS PROPOSED AND ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE US TWO OPTIONS, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING. ONE THAT HAS THE, THE 400 FEET AND ONE THAT DOESN'T, SO THAT WE CAN CHOOSE AT THAT POINT, UM, WHICH WAY TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN IF I HAVE A SECOND, I'LL SPEAK TO THE MOTION. OKAY. [02:10:01] IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? COUNCIL MEMBER? TOPO SECONDS. THAT COUNCIL. THANK YOU. UM, SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD'VE BEEN TO VOTE ON THOSE TODAY, BUT I, UH, RESPECT THE NEED OF MY COLLEAGUES AND GIVEN ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING IN THE VARIOUS THINGS, I THINK IT, IT, I'M WILLING TO WAIT THE TWO WEEKS TO, TO ADAPT THE PARTS THAT WE ALL AGREE ON. UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT ALLOWS US TO ALLOW THE DELAY PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD. OTHERWISE, WE JUST HAVE A POSTPONEMENT THAT'S KIND OF A VAGUE POSTPONEMENT THAT COULD, COULD LAST QUITE SOME TIME. UM, AND WE WILL NEVER GET BACK THE BENEFITS OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES THAT, UM, DO NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ACCORDING TO THE AFFORDABILITY IMPACT STATEMENT. YEAH. I APOLOGIZE, BUT I JUST NEVER MISUNDERSTOOD THE AMENDMENT. SO I'M, I'M WITHDRAWING MY SECOND. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN. I THINK IT BELONGS TO ALL OF US NOW. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. YOU CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO HER AMENDMENT. UH, WHY CAN I DO A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? BECAUSE IT, IT'S SO MUCH PROCEDURE. REALLY MORE COMPLICATED HANDLED SUBSTITUTE MOTION, WHICH REQUIRES US TO VOTE ON BOTH MOTIONS. OKAY. WHICH, WHICHEVER IS, BUT WE CAN GET THEM WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT TO GET DONE, WE CAN GET IT DONE MORE QUICKLY. THAT'S FINE. YOU'RE THE EXPERT HERE, SO, OKAY. I'M, I'M HAPPY TO DO AN, UH, SO WHAT DID YOU SAY AN AMENDMENT TO TO HER? UH, I AMEND IT AND, UH, I, UH, AMEND IT TO SAY THAT, UM, THE POSTPONEMENT IS LIMITED TO NO. RECOGNIZING THAT THE, WELL, FIRST OF OFF, LET ME TAKE THE MOTION. THE MOTION IS LIMITED TO POSTPONING THE ITEM RELATED TO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT ITEM IS, BUT POSTPONING THE ITEM THAT I ORIGINALLY PROPOSED POSTPONING RELATED TO THE, TO THE, UH, CW QZ DOWNSTREAM OF THE DAM. AND I'M MAKING THAT, SO MY RATIONALE IS I'M MAKING THAT AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION SO THAT WE WOULD, UH, BE MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US AND ONLY POSTPONE THAT ONE ITEM, UH, WHICH WOULD KEEP US ALIGNED WITH POSTPONING THE ITEMS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD RECOMMENDED POSTPONING AS, UH, WHICH ARE THE SAME ITEMS THAT, UM, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS JUST TOLD US THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THIS, OUT OF THIS DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF US. UM, I, I RESPECT PEOPLE'S INTEREST IN SPENDING MORE TIME, BUT I TRUST OUR STAFF IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE ITEMS THAT NEED MORE CONSIDERATION. AND SO THIS IS SUCH A CRITICAL, UM, HANG ON A SECOND BEFORE YOU DEBATE IT. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN IS SUGGESTING OR MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO DO THE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ADD THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE EAST OF LONGHORN DAM TO THE OTHER THREE. THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, THE MAYOR PROTE HAT THAT'S SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER POOL. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TIMS MEANT. THE MAYOR PRO TIMS, UH, MOTION IS TO MOVE, IS TO POSTPONE THIS ENTIRE ITEM. AND I AM NOT POSTPONING THE ENTIRE ITEM. I AM ONLY POSTPONING THE ONE SEGMENT OF THE ITEM THAT RELATES TO THE, UM, SEE, YOU'LL HAVE TO TELL ME HOW TO SAY IT. SO YOU WOULD BE SAYING, LET'S JUST POSTPONE FUNCTIONAL GREEN, MISSING MIDDLE FUNCTIONAL GREEN IS NOT BEFORE US AT THE MOMENT. THE ITEM THAT'S IN FRONT OF US DOESN'T HAVE FUNCTIONAL GREEN IN IT. IT'S ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OUT. IT'S BEEN COMMITTED AND MISSING. MIDDLE HAS BEEN TAKING OUT YES. AND UTILITY'S BEEN TAKING OUT. YES. SO YOU WOULD BE POSTPONING JUST THE YEAH. I'M GONNA TAKE OUT ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES ARE ALREADY NOT INCLUDED. SO THEY'RE ALREADY BEING POSTPONED. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN FRONT OF US. OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. OKAY. UM, SO MY RATIONALE IS, UM, I TRUST THE CITY STAFF, UM, IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER IN THEIR WORK, IN THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO IDENTIFY THOSE ITEMS THAT REQUIRE FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION. SO, UM, SO THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, IN THE WAY THAT THEY'VE RECOMMENDED WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT ONE ITEM. UM, AND, UM, AND THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS WE'RE GETTING PRETTY LATE IN THE YEAR. AND, UM, THIS IS, THESE ARE, THESE ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE THAT WE HAVE FLAGGED AS ONES WE CAN GET, WE CAN MOVE IMMEDIATELY FORWARD WITH INSTEAD OF WAITING TWO WEEKS ON THOSE. OKAY. HERE. SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. YEAH. I'M JUST WORRIED WITH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS TO THE AMENDMENTS TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BY NOT POSTPONING THE ENTIRE ITEM SO THAT WE CAN ALL REVIEW HOW IT WORKS TOGETHER AND ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE AREA. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S 7 38. YOU KNOW, MARY, THIS, THIS AREA HAS BEEN NEGLECTED OVER THE YEARS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, BEEN NO IMPROVEMENTS [02:15:01] IN THAT AREA, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES ALL OF SUDDEN TAKING A GREAT INTEREST IN THIS, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, I STILL NEED TIME TO FIGURE THIS ONE OUT CUZ IT'S GONNA AFFECT MY DISTRICT AND IT'S GONNA AFFECT MY CONSTITUENTS. AND I WANT TO, WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING SO FAR, THEY DON'T, THEY REALLY ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. AND I, WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR TWO WEEKS AND I JUST CAN'T SEE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO PUSH IT. IT IS GONNA TAKE MONEY TO FIX ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. I MEAN, THERE HAD NEVER BEEN AN IMPROVEMENT THERE. IF YOU GO DOWN THERE AND LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, YOU AND YOU'VE TALK TO SOME OF THE PEOP OWNERS THERE, THEY'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE VERY FRUSTRATED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. AND THAT 400 FEET IS ANOTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO THE CHILD IS NOW, AND SOME OF THE FEW PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE BY TILLERY AND IT'S GONNA AFFECT THEM. AND SO, UH, I REALLY NEED TO TAKE A, A LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND, AND I MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, I'M BEHIND IT 100% AND EVERYBODY IN MY DISTRICT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND IT. I DON'T KNOW. BUT BEFORE I, I'VE BEEN VOTE FOR ANYTHING, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORT FROM MY CONSTITUENTS, CASPER ELLIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I, I'M JUST AT THIS POINT CONCERNED IT'S A LITTLE MESSY AND CHAOTIC ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IS IN FRONT OF US AND EXACTLY WHICH PARTS PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON. AND, UM, IF, IF SOME OF US ARE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT'S IN AND WHAT'S OUT, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS ALSO COMPLETELY IN THE DARK ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE TAKING PLACE. SO I, I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE SHOULD JUST KEEP IT CLEAN, POSTPONE, AND START WORKING ON LIKE WHICH VERSIONS AND WHICH AMENDMENTS NEED TO BE WORKED IN SO THAT WE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENT AND CALCULATED WITH WHAT IS A COMPLEX CONVERSATION. VELA, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE ON THE DIETS RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, WHEN SPLITTING IT UP, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT'S MOVING AND WHAT'S NOT. I, I THINK THAT GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY CLOSE. I I HAVE STILL HAVE SOME, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, COSTS, UH, AND MAINTENANCE COST, ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS. AND AGAIN, HOW WE CAN BALANCE THAT, UH, OUT. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO AGAIN, IS GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, PASSING THE GREEN, UH, STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PORTION. BUT THEN WE'RE NOT GONNA MITIGATE, WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS, OR WE'RE NOT GONNA DO, TAKE WHATEVER MEASURES WE NEED TO TAKE, UH, TO MITIGATE THE COST OF THAT FOR ANOTHER 12 MONTHS, 18 MONTHS, OR, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE US TO, TO GET TO THAT, UH, UH, TO THE AFFORDABILITY PORTION OF IT. AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, I THINK GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY CLOSE. I THINK WE CAN GET IT FINALIZED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS PAST THE PORTIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOOD TO GO AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE REST OF IT. OKAY. DO WE WANT TO HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE WE TAKE A OATH? COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN IS PROPOSING THAT THE ONLY ONE WE POSTPONE IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE THREE THAT ARE NO LONGER IN THE MEASURE IS THE 400 FEET THE STAGE. WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT COUNCIL, REMEMBER? YES. HAW. I CAN'T TELL HAW WITH A LAW DEPARTMENT AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE IF THIS MOTION WERE TO PASS, WE WOULD BE THEN, UH, TRYING TO SEPARATE PARTS OUT OF THE, UH, THE, THE CODE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN IS PROPOSING IS TO TAKE, UH, THE, UH, PORTIONS RELATED TO BOTH EROSION HAZARD ZONES AND CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES, ALL OF THAT THAT RELATES TO THE AREA OF THE COLORADO RIVER DOWNSTREAM FROM LONGHORN DAM. OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, UH, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT A SECOND FOR MY MOTION. YOU THERE WAS A SECOND? YES. NO, COULD YOU SECOND? NO, THERE'S YES, THERE WAS A SECOND TO THAT MOTION. I GOT THE SECOND BEFORE I CAME BACK TO YOU OKAY. FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT. OKAY. UM, LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHENS AMENDMENT. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, KITCHEN AND TOBO. THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UM, AND IT'S THE BALANCE OF THE, UH, THE DAIS. I ABSTAIN, UM, AND COUNCIL AND MAYOR PROTE ABSTAINED. NOW, WHAT WAS YOUR UNDERLYING AMENDMENT? SO, UM, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO IS HAVE US, THERE WAS NO DATE FOR THE POSTPONEMENT IN COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S, UM, MOTION. AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF DELAYING, WHICH SOUNDED LIKE MONTHS OF DELAY. AND SO WHAT I WAS HOPING WAS THAT WE COULD WAIT THE TWO WEEKS TO TAKE UP THE PIECES THAT THERE WAS AGREEMENT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND THAT WE WERE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS IN THE VERSION THAT'S BEFORE US, WHICH ALSO THOUGH INCLUDES THE 400 FEET. SO MY, MY MOTION [02:20:01] WAS TO, UM, POSTPONE THE VERSION BEFORE US AND ASK THEM TO COME BACK WITH TWO OPTIONS SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THOSE ALREADY WORKED OUT. SO WE WEREN'T DOING IT ON THE FLY ONE THAT WAS JUST THE VERSION BEFORE US. THE OTHER BEING A VERSION THAT EXCLUDES THE PART OF CONCERN FOR THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND THE EROSION, THE VERSION THAT'S BEFORE US ALREADY DELAYS THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN LANDSCAPE. UM, DELAYS THE PART OF MISSING MIDDLE AND DELAYS THE UTILITY LINE PIECE. AND BY DELAY, I ASSUME THAT MEANS LONGER THAN TWO WEEKS. UM, IT DOESN'T GIVE US SPECIFIC DATE BACK BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS IS GOING TO TAKE. SO MY AMENDMENT WOULD SPECIFY, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN CONTRADICTION TO COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY'S, BUT IT SPECIFIES WHAT THE PROCESS IS, UM, FOR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE UP THE PARTS THAT WE AGREED ABOUT AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE ALREADY PREPARED BY STAFF THE OPTION TO EXCLUDE, UM, THE PARTS THAT REMAIN CONTROVERSIAL POTENTIALLY SO THAT MRR COULD HAVE MORE TIME IF HE NEEDS IT. WE COULD VOTE ON THAT NEXT WEEK, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE THAT, UM, RIGHT AWAY TONIGHT HOW MUCH MORE TIME WE NEED FOR THAT. AND SO, CAN I SEE IF I UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US IS PRESENTED BY STAFF, UH, HAS US POSTPONING FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME BY NOT INCLUDING THE ELEMENTS OF FUNCTIONAL GREEN, MISSING MIDDLE AND UTILITIES. RIGHT? SO THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA GO OFF FOR ADDITIONAL STUDY. IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE THINGS GO OFF FOR ADDITIONAL SETTING AND THEY WOULD INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF SET OFFS OR THAT KIND OF THING? OR DO YOU NEED SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO ALSO CONSIDER THOSE THINGS AND TO INVOLVE DEVELOPMENT STAFF AS PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS? UH, PER THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS, WE HAD PLANNED TO ROLL THOSE INTO PHASE TWO WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT ENTITLEMENTS AND, AND OTHER, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PART OF THAT. SO THAT IS CERTAINLY PART OF THAT. OKAY. SO THOSE THINGS WOULD HAPPEN. BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LET THIS MEASURE COME BACK TO US IN TWO WEEKS THAT WOULD HAVE, UH, US TO DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE, IN ESSENCE, THE BALANCE OF IT. AND YOU'RE ASKING WITH TWO OPTIONS. ONE THAT, UH, WOULD, WOULD ALSO SIMILARLY POSTPONE OR DISSIMILARLY POSTPONE, BUT SOMEHOW IN OTHER POSTPONED THE ELEMENTS THAT AFFECT, UH, THE, THE LAKE AND THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THE LAKE. AND ONE THAT WOULD HAVE US ACTING ON THAT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, FOR YOU ON, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, VELA HAS ALSO RAISED QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, GREEN STORM ORDER INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH ALSO HAD A RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING COMMISSION THAT, UM, UH, OFFSETS BE ADDRESSED AND A POSSIBLE COST SHARING PROGRAM ADDRESSED. COULD YOUR MOTION ALSO SAY, FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH OPTIONS WITH RESPECT TO GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE NEXT WEEK, THAT GAVE US OPTIONS RESPONSIVE TO WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RAISED THERE? I MEAN, WE CAN MAKE THE MOTION DO WHATEVER. MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE UP HOWEVER MUCH OF THIS AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL STEPS IN TWO WEEKS, WHICH GIVES EVERYONE ON COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO FOCUS IN SO WE'RE NOT DISTRACTED BY THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DELAYING AND MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE, WHAT WE ARE DOING. WHAT I HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VELA WAS THAT HE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE IN TWO WEEKS. I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF, I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF CAN PREPARE OPTIONS. UH, I DON'T OBJECT TO THEM PREPARING THOSE OPTIONS, BUT, BUT I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH OF THE NUANCE OF WHAT MR. VELA IS TRYING TO, TO ACCOMPLISH TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THOSE AMENDMENTS MAY OR MAY NOT NEED TO BE OR HOW MUCH OF THE ORDINANCE PERTAINS TO THAT AND WOULD NEED TO BE. SO LET ME ADJUSTED, BUT THERE WOULD BE NOTHING TO STOP MR. VELA FROM COMING FORWARD WITH AMENDMENTS THAT HE WORKED ON WITH STAFF OR FROM STAFF, FROM GIVING US OPTIONS IN MY MOTION OR, OR FOR THE, THE GIST OF WHAT YOU HAD DONE EITHER ON, ON THE 400 FOOT. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT NEXT WEEK WE'RE IN A BETTER POSITION PERHAPS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD THAN WE ARE TODAY. SO I'M SEEING IF WE CAN ALSO PUT INTO THAT AREA THAT WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO BE WORKING ON OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. THE, THE, THE GREEN STORM ORDER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESPONSE TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER REVA SAID AS WELL. COUNCIL MEMBER. VAL, DO YOU WANNA, MY SENSE, AND, AND I I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE, LIKE THE COST SHARING THE IDEA FOR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL COST SHARING, ESPECIALLY ON, UH, AFFORDABLE PROJECTS. MY SENSE IS THAT'S NOT GONNA BE READY IN TWO WEEKS. SO, UH, THOUGH THAT'S, WE NEED A FUNDING SOURCE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND AGAIN, JUST SPEAKING [02:25:01] HYPOTHETICALLY RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE, FOR EXAMPLE WITH THE, THE, UM, THE GSI, UM, ARE THEY ALLOWED, AGAIN, IN TERMS OF BALANCING THE INTEREST, CAN YOU PUT THE, UM, THE BIOFILTRATION IN THE SETBACK AREAS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE ADDITIONAL ROOM FOR THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT? LIKE THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT ARE ZERO COST. THAT WOULD, WHICH I, I I STILL DON'T HAVE, LET ME SEE ME SEE, I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US IF SECOND DID HERE IN A SECOND WOULD SAY POSTPONE FOR TWO WEEKS THIS MATTER, THREE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW ARE GONNA BE POSTPONED FOR LONGER TIME CUZ THEY'RE NO LONGER INCLUDED. BUT IN TWO WEEKS THE COUNCIL WILL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE THINGS THAT CONCERN LIKE AUSTIN, THE COUNCIL WILL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD OR HOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE GREEN STORM ORDER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT REMAINS IN THIS. BUT WE WOULDN'T MAKE IN TWO WEEKS WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK THAT'S THE AMENDMENT THAT I, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. BUT I ALSO VERY SPECIFICALLY ASKED THEM TO GIVE US AN OPTION ALREADY PREPARED THAT INCLUDES THE, THE LAKE FRONT STUFF SEPARATED OUT FROM THE MOTION. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH OF MR. VILLA'S CONCERNS TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO STATE WHETHER WE'RE READY OR NOT TO GO FORWARD. UM, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS IF MR. VELA THINKS THAT WE'RE NOT READY, HE CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT LEAVES THOSE OUT NEXT TIME AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE SIMPLEST WAY SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON WITH OUR DAY TODAY. THAT'S FINE. AND LEAVE MY MOTION AS IT IS AND THEN, OKAY, IS THERE A SECOND? WE, WE UNDERSTAND NOW THAT WE HAVE THOSE, THOSE THREE BUCKETS OF DECISIONS NEXT WEEK, BUT WE ARE NOT TAKING UP, UM, THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN, THE MISSING MIDDLE OR UM, THE UTILITY LINE PIECES FOR SURE, BUT WE ARE GONNA LIMIT OURSELVES TO THAT CONVERSATION SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AS MUCH OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK AS WE CAN. MR. VELA WILL WORK ON THAT OTHER PIECE AND IF HE NEEDS A MOTION THAT'S DIFFERENT, HE WILL BRING THAT FORWARD WORKING WITH STAFF TO TO, TO WRITE THAT. AND VELA SECOND, I'LL SECOND HER. OKAY. IT'S BEEN SECONDED DISCUSSION. I'M GONNA SAY I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS CUZ I THINK THAT GETS US WHERE WE ARE. BUT I WILL TELL STAFF THAT IF MR. BELLA DOES NOT REQUEST OPTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN THAT TRIES TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE PLANNING COMMISSION INTER WILL BE ASKING FOR THAT. AND IT COULD BE THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT, WHICH IS AN APPROPRIATE ANSWER IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME MM-HMM. , BUT THEN IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING I WOULD SUPPORT POSTPONING IN TWO WEEKS. SO IS TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THAT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT NOW. WE CAN CONSIDER THAT IN TWO WEEKS IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECONDED MARY, IT ALSO REQUEST THAT THEY REACH OUT TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS THERE. UH, I'VE BEEN GETTING, UH, UH, MESSAGES FROM SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THERE THAT THEY HAD NOT BEEN NOTIFIED OF THIS. AND CAN YOU, UH, ALSO CAN YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE SO THAT WE CAN PASS IT OUT TO THE, TO THE BUSINESS OWNER OF HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT THEM AND THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE? OKAY. THANK YOU COUNCIL KELLY. THANKS. UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FROM STAFF. UM, THE ITEMS THAT WILL TAKE LONGER IN ORDER TO DETERMINE AND FIGURE OUT, DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATION OF WHEN WE MIGHT GET THAT, GET THAT INFORMATION BACK ON THOSE OTHER ITEMS? I DO AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON A MEMO TO GIVE YOU A CLEAR TIMELINE, UH, ON THAT. UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE GOT THROUGH TODAY. UM, SO FUNCTIONAL GREEN, I'D REALLY LIKE TO BRING BACK ON A SHORTER TIMELINE. THERE'S SOME KEY TANGIBLES THAT PLANNING COMMISSION AND DESIGN COMMISSION ASKED FOR. UH, THAT I THINK WILL CLEAR UP SOME OF THE DISCUSSION ON THAT. UH, AND I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT BACK WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, UH, IF NOT SOONER. UM, THE OTHER ITEMS THAT REQUIRE SUBSTANTIVE COORDINATION AMONGST OTHER DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE MISSING MIDDLE PIECE, UM, INCLUDING, UM, INCLUDING THE UTILITY LINE PIECE AS WELL AS GREENFIELD DETENTION AND STEEP SLOPES PROTECTIONS, WHICH YOU HAD ALREADY ASKED US TO PROVIDE MITIGATING ENTITLEMENTS OR OTHER OFFSETS FOR I BELIEVE ARE LIKELY TO BE A A 12 MONTH MINIMUM TIMELINE, UH, TO BRING ALL OF THOSE BACK IN THE WAY THAT I THINK WILL ACTUALLY OFFSET. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IF STAFF RECOGNIZES ANY SORT OF CONFLICTS WITH ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE MOVING THROUGH THEM, THAT YOU IDENTIFY THOSE AND YOU LET COUNCIL BE AWARE OF THEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR PRO TIMS AMENDMENT IS IN FRONT OF US AND TAKE A VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF IT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED? I'M SEEING EVERYONE VOTING. YES. WE COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON OFF THE, OH, COUNCIL MEMBER MADISON ALSO VOTING. YES. SO WHILE WE'RE ALL TOGETHER, LET'S VOTE [02:30:01] ON THE MEN THE MOTION TO POSTPONE AS IT HAS BEEN AMENDED. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED AND THE UNANIMOUS ON THE DIES, THAT'S POSTPONED AS AMENDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU COLLEAGUES. LET'S, UH, GO TO OUR SPEAKERS AND UH, WE'LL START WITH, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY. LET'S SEE, UM, LET'S DO OUR SPEAKERS. WE'LL COME BACK AN HOUR AFTER SPEAKERS, UH, AND WE'LL DO AUSTIN ENERGY AND AS CLOSE TO TWO O'CLOCK AS WE CAN WE'LL CALL AFTERNOON SPEAKERS THERE. CAN ASK ONE CLARIFICATION ON AUSTIN ENERGY THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM, WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WAS POTENTIALLY GONNA BE AN EXHIBIT PREPARED BY STAFF, UM, WITH RESPECT TO SOME SORT OF 5% REQUIREMENT. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S 5% ON THE PSA OR ON THE BILL, UM, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET. UM, DO WE KNOW IF AND WHEN WE'RE GETTING THAT THERE SHOULD AIR SOMETHING IN THE BACK AND IT'S RED LINE? THERE IS A RED LINE WITH THE TARIFFS AND THERE'S AN ANNEX ATTACHED WITH THE FIVE ABOVE AND FIVE BELOW. UM, THAT'S WITHIN THE TARIFF DOCUMENT THAT WE RECEIVED AND IT IS NOW AN EXHIBIT ATTACHED TO IT. OKAY. IT'S ON PAGE 20. OKAY. AND WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL VERSIONS OF THIS. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF SOMEONE CAN MAYBE JUST RESEND US THE VERSION WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT CUZ WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF, A LOT OF THEM AND I DON'T WANT TO INADVERTENTLY LOOK AT THE WRONG VERSION. AND SO THIS IS AN ANNEX AT THE END OF THAT. AND WHILE WE'RE HERE, GENERAL MANAGER SERGEANT CAN JUST CLARIFY WHAT IS IN BACKUP AND WHAT WE WOULD BE ASKING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THANK YOU. WHILE WE'RE DELIBERATING, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO THEN WE CAN TAKE THAT HOUR TO REVIEW THAT. AGAIN. GREAT COUNSEL, I'M JACKIE, SERGEANT AUSTIN, ENERGY GENERAL MANAGER. UM, WE PUT TOGETHER TARIFF REVISION LANGUAGE AND THOSE ARE POSTED, UM, AS OPTIONS ONE A AND TWO A ONE A BEING, UH, WITH THE RATE NUMBERS FOR, UM, IMPLEMENTING THE CHANGE ALL IN ONE YEAR VERSUS OPTION TWO, WHICH IS IMPLEMENTING, UM, THE CHANGE IN OVER THREE YEARS. AND IN THOSE DOCUMENTS, THE LANGUAGE WITH REGARD TO THE 5% IS, UH, YOU CAN, CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 20. OKAY. AND THOSE WERE THE DOCUMENTS WE RECEIVED AT 10 37 AND 10 51 THIS MORNING. WOULD THOSE BE THE RIGHT YES. DOCUMENTS. AND THE ONE, AND NOW THE VERSION TWO A IS THE ONE THAT RE CORRESPONDS TO THE GRADUAL OPTION AND ONE A IS THE CORRESPONDS TO THE ORIGINAL STAFF PROPOSAL? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, UH, WE'VE TAKEN THE DIRECTION WE HAD YESTERDAY. WE'VE SPLIT IT INTO TWO SECTIONS. ONE THAT DEALS WITH KIND OF DEVELOPING TRIGGERS, UH, SO THAT YOU, WE HAVE MORE TELLS IN THE FUTURE OR RESERVE POLICIES IN THE, LIKE, IF YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND, AND LET US KNOW IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? I WILL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S [Public Comment (Part 2 of 2)] GO THEN TO, UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS. AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMUNITY, BEEN WAITING FOR THAT WHILE WE TOOK CARE OF THIS BUSINESS. UH, IS UM, UH, ROBERT HERE? HERE? YES. WE HAVE REMOTE SPEAKERS AS WELL. SO IF WE CAN YOU WANT TO CALL THOSE FIRST? SURE. OKAY. FRANCIS AK CAN YOU HEAR ME? GO AHEAD. HELLO? YES, GO AHEAD PLEASE. UH, THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME IS FRANCIS MUNK. I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF DUB SPRING AND TODAY I'M HERE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, EFFORT, AND PASSION FOR ALL THE CITY COUNCIL ROLE. I KNOW IT MUST BE HARD TO FEEL AGAINST THE WALK WHEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GO AGAINST SOME OF THE AREAS OF TOWN AGAINST WHAT, UH, SOME OF THE AREAS OF TOWN ARE ASKING. I ALSO THINK AT NIGHT YOU HAVE A HARD TIME SLEEPING WHEN YOU LOSE A VOTE THAT YOU SO PASSIONATELY THOUGHT FOR. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE REPRESENTATION FOR EACH DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. I ALSO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE WELLBEING, SAFETY, STABILITY, AND HEALTH OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. [02:35:01] MANY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE SUFFERED TRAUMA THROUGH DISASTERS, HAVE SEEN THEIR NEIGHBORS DIE. I FIGHT FROM PAST LIFE TRAUMA AND EVENTS LIKE COVID THAT HAVE AFFECTED MENTAL, SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL WELLBEING. WE, YOUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE SUFFERED NEGLECT FROM LACK OF REPRESENTATION. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WHEN WE COME TO REP TO PRESENT OUR VULNERABILITY, SHARING OUR NEEDS AND CONCERNS, ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE VERY MINIMUM BASIC NEEDS, WE GET HIT BY THE LACK OF RESPECT THAT SHOWS THROUGH YOUR FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND POSTURE. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT TRAUMA SHOWS UP EACH TIME IT RAINS, EACH TIME WE FEEL NEGLECT FROM OUR REPRESENTATIVE, OUR REPRESENTATIVE BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US. DON'T LOOK AT US AS IF WE ARE THE WRONG, BUT LOOK AT US AS THE RESULT OF WHAT IS WRONG IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN POLICY AND IN SOCIETY. YOU HAVE TO SHIFT AND THINK OF THE WAY YOU ENGAGE AND APPROACH YOUR CONSTITUENT. YOU HAVE ACKNOW, YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE PEOPLE IN THE SPACE OF VULNERABILITY BECAUSE WHEN THIS EXPERIENCE SHOW UP, IT'S DRAMATIZING AND IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU. IT'S ABOUT BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS. I ASK THAT YOU HOLD PEOPLE'S STORIES WITH EMPATHY, RESPECT, AND CONCERN TO ALLOW SPACE FOR TRUST AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS. YOU HOLD A GREAT DEAL OF RESPONSIBILITY TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. AND AS SUCH, I HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE WHEN YOU, WHEN A RESIDENT SHOWS UP, SHOWS THEIR REP. WHEN A RESIDENT SHOWS THEIR VULNERABILITY, MAKE IT LOOK AT LEAST THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE. BECAUSE IF THEY SHOW UP, JUST SPEAK. IT IS NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOWS MORE RESPECT THAN THE OTHERS, BUT THEY ARE HERE BECAUSE THEY NEED, THEY HAVE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEED IS GREAT. THANK YOU. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. NEXT SPEAKER, KATHERINE LINLEY. HI, GOOD MORNING, AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CATHERINE LINLEY. I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF AUSTIN, SOUTH AUSTIN TO BE SPECIFIC. AND I AM HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR, UH, THE BACHI BALL COURT THAT I BELIEVE ARE CURRENTLY AT THE TRIANGLE PART AND TO SEE THEM, UM, BE ROLLED OUT TO SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS IN TOWN, INCLUDING MY AREA, UM, IN SOUTH AUSTIN. UM, BACHI BALL IS A GREAT SPORT THAT UM, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO BE THAT FIT TO PLAY AND IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR ALL AGES. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET PEOPLE OUTSIDE, FRESH AIR, SUNSHINE, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR MENTAL WELLBEING AND OUR HEALTH. UM, AS THE LAST LADY MENTIONED, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TRAUMA AND UPHEAVAL SINCE THE PANDEMIC AND WHAT BETTER WAY TO, UM, KIND OF RECOVER AND GET BACK OUT WITH PEOPLE, UM, THAN IN A OPEN AIR ENVIRONMENT THAT THE BACHI BALL COURTS, UM, PROVIDE. I HAVE PLAYED OUT IN MAYNOR ACTUALLY WITH MY FRIEND ROBERT BATTLE. HAD ME OUT THERE FOR A TOURNAMENT AND ACTUALLY GOT THIRD PLACE WITH MY SON AND HIS GOOD FRIEND WHO ARE YOUNG ADULTS AND I'M GETTING TO BE AN OLD LADY. SO IT WAS A NICE ALL GENERATIONAL EVENT. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT YOU SEE THE BENEFIT TO AUSTIN COMMUNITY, UH, AT LARGE IN PROVIDING BACHI BALL COURTS THAT, UM, UH, CITIZENS CAN USE TO STAY HEALTHY AND TO, UM, INTERACT WITH FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND SO ON. APPRECIATE THE JOB YOU ARE DOING FOR AUSTIN. UM, I GET A LITTLE EMOTIONAL. UM, I AM A NURSE. I'VE BEEN A NURSE SINCE I WAS 20, UH, AND I THINK THAT AUSTIN HAS A LOT OF CARE FOR ITS CONSTITUENTS AND I'M HOPING THAT, UM, THAT WILL BE REFLECTED IN SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT HELP US TO GET MORE ACTIVE. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. IF I HAVE ANY OTHER TIME LEFT, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT TO ROBERT BATTLE, WHO I BELIEVE THERE IN PERSON TO SPEAK. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. MARIA JOHNSON ENSON. [02:40:06] HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, AUSTIN COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARIA TERESA JOHNSON AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO CHIME IN AND SAY HOW MUCH FUN THE SPORT OF BACHI IS. UM, I HAVE LONG TIME, UM, BEEN A RESIDENT OF AUSTIN, TEXAS AND I TOO HAD TO COME OUT TO MAYNOR TO TRY SOME OF THESE BACHI GAMES. AND IT HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. IT HAS TRANSFORMED MY LIFE AND MY HUSBAND'S LIFE AMONGST MANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INTRODUCE THIS GAME TO. AND I REALLY FEEL THAT AUSTIN COULD TOTALLY BENEFIT FROM INCLUDING MORE BOCHY COURTS IN THE AREA. UM, HERE'S A FUN FACT. BACHI BALL IS THE SECOND MOST PLAYED SPORT IN THE WORLD AND IT IS VERY EASY TO LEARN AND YOU GET TO BE AMONGST GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHERE WE ALL FEEL EQUALLY IMPORTANT. AND IN TODAY'S TIME, THAT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL FEEL THAT EQUALITY ACROSS THE BOARD. AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY THAT IN SPANISH. AW, WELL, AUSTIN, THE PERSONAS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS SPORT BACHI, UM, HAS BEEN ABLE TO BE AN OPEN AVENUE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO BECOME A MEMBER FOR THE LIONS CLUB AS THERE WAS OTHER LIONS THAT WERE PARTICIPATING THERE. AND ALTHOUGH GROWING UP IN AUSTIN, I HAVE HEARD OF THE LIONS CLUB, I NEVER GOT A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME SO ENGAGED AS THEY DID, WHICH NOW LED FOR MY HUSBAND AND I TO BOTH BE NOW LION CLUB MEMBERS. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING KIDS TO COME BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN AND PLAY THIS AWESOME SPORTS. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A PANDEMIC OF CHILDREN'S HEALTH AS WELL AS ADULTS. AND THIS HAS REALLY BEEN AN EYE OPENING. UM, FOR SOMEONE WHO ALREADY ADVOCATES FOR HAVING NATURE AND BEING OUTDOORS AS A BIG PART OF GREAT HEALTH. IT WAS CLEAR TO SEE THAT HAVING THE KIDS BE PART, UM, OF AN OUTSIDE ACTIVITY SUCH AS BOCHY WAS A GAME CHANGER. AND I JUST SAW THE GOODNESS THAT THIS CAN HELP SUPPORT AND NOT ONLY CHILDREN, BUT ALSO ADULTS INTO BETTERING THEIR HEALTH. SO I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU ALL, UM, GET A CHANCE TO COME OUT. WE PERSONALLY INVITE YOU OUT TO PLAY AT ONE OF THESE MAIN OR BOCHY CHORDS CUZ THEY ARE EXCELLENT. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW GOOD THIS COULD BE IF WE COULD HAVE MORE CHORDS AVAILABLE IN AUSTIN. AND I ALSO WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND THE TRANSFORMATION THAT AUSTIN IS DOING AND STILL KEEPING THE ORIGINAL ROOTS THAT OFTEN ONCE WAS. YOU GUYS HAVE A BLESSED AND HAVE HER THIS TIME. MAYOR. MAYOR, IF, IF I MAY JUST A QUICK COMMENT, THE, THERE'S A BOAL COURT IN MUELLER ALSO. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT, BUT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO TO LET FOLKS KNOW, TO LET FOLKS KNOW. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES REMOTE SPEAKERS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO IN PERSON ROBERT BAT . UH, YES, THANK, HELLO. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD TO BE HERE AGAIN. IT'S BEEN WAY TOO LONG SINCE I SAW YOU. MY NAME'S ROBERT BATTY, ALSO KNOWN AS ROBERT BATTLE. UM, I COME FROM THE PLANET MAINER. UH, WE HAVE THE BEST COURTS IN PROBABLY 10 STATES HERE. MOST INNOVATIVE IN THE WORLD. GUESS WHAT? AUSTIN DOES NOT HAVE ONE SINGLE GOOD BOCHY COURT AT ALL. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR FIVE YEARS WITH THE AUSTIN BOCHY LEAGUE. I STARTED THAT. LET ME APOLOGIZE TO YOU P FOR NOT HELPING YOU WITH PAR K COLEMAR. I WILL HELP YOU. UM, I REMEMBER WHEN TEXANS WERE INCAPABLE OF TURNING RIGHT ON A RED LIGHT. I REMEMBER WHEN THEY COULDN'T PUMP THEIR OWN GAS AT A SELF-SERVICE STATION. NOW WE CAN EVEN DO CHECKOUT AT WALMART BY OURSELVES, ALL BY OURSELVES. SO I THINK AUSTIN'S READY TO PLAY SOME BOCHE BALL. WE GOT 16% APPROVAL, SO TO SPEAK IN THE 10 YEAR LONG RANGE PARK SURVEY THAT EQUATES TO LIKE 150,000 PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE WHERE WE CAN REACH THEM. SO THIS, THE NORMAL PARKS AND REC IDEA WHERE THINGS BUBBLE UP FROM THE GROUND IS NOT GONNA WORK HERE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS SOMETHING WE DID IN THE EIGHTIES OVER AND OVER, WHICH IS CALLED A PILOT PROGRAM. TRIANGLE PARK IS FANTASTIC. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE TWO COURT, UH, GRAPHIC PLEASE. THIS IS WHERE I WANNA PUT THAT PAINTING. I'M SHOWING YOU GUYS THAT PAINTING. I WANNA PUT THAT AT THIS MUSEUM [02:45:01] AT THIS, UH, 16 QUARTS. UM, I THOUGHT I HAD THE TRIANGLE PARK, TWO QUARTS THERE. TRIANGLE PARK IS A REALLY GREAT SPOT, BUT THEY HAVE A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM WHERE ONE COURT IS AT STREET LEVEL AND THE OTHER COURT IS DOWN AT THE LEVEL OF THE OPENING TO THE APARTMENTS THERE. IT WILL NEVER WORK FOR A BOCHE LEAGUE. IT JUST WILL NEVER WORK. AND THE UH, OWNER IS READY TO PUT SOME MONEY INTO FIX IN THE, UH, SURFACE OF THE COURTS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO RAISE THE EAST COURT UP TO THE SAME LEVEL AND DO THE OPENINGS ON THE INSIDE SO PEOPLE CAN COME OUT AND INTERACT. ONCE WE DO THAT, WE WILL HAVE A BACHI SCENE THAT WILL BLOW THE PEOPLE'S MIND AND BECOME THAT PILOT PROGRAM. I'VE ALREADY OFFERED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A COUPLE OF OUR, UH, PATENT PENDING DOUBLE TEAM SCOREBOARDS THERE, UH, FOR TRIANGLE COURT. SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE FOR, YOU KNOW, 15 TO $25,000 AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO. SO ESPECIALLY FOR MS. TOVO AND MR. MAYOR, THIS IS YOUR SWAN SONG BABY. THIS IS IT RIGHT NOW. AND TO ALL THE PARKS AND REC FOLKS, UM, THAT HAVE HELPED. THIS IS YOUR SWAN SONG TOO. NO, I MEAN THIS IS SOMETHING GREAT WE SHOULD DO AND, UH, PLEASE. LET'S DO IT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU BARBARA LA. HUNDRED 50 YEAR OLD OCCUPATED. I WANT GIVE IT TO THE AUSTIN DON WILLIAMSON MAYOR COUNSEL. GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL. MY NAME IS DON WILLIAMSON, LIFELONG RESIDENT RETIRED AUSTIN FIREFIGHTER. I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU ABOUT SOMETHING HAPPENED ON UM, JULY 8TH THIS YEAR. UM, IT WAS A VISION OF MINE TO HAVE A CELEBRATION AT STACY POOLE, KATHY TOK AND HER FRIEND LAURA COUM SAGEVILLE, UH, ON FROM THE PARKS BOARD HELPED OUT IN THROWING A PARTY AT BIG STACY POOL. CELEBRATED ITS 85TH ANNIVERSARY. WE HAD HEB FOR TACOS AND UH, WE HAD SINGER JASON MOLIN MADE IT A WONDERFUL DAY AND EVERYBODY HAD A GREAT TIME. AND LATER TODAY WE'LL MARK THE DATE IN A PROCLAMATION BUILT OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD IN THE CIVILIAN. UH, FROM 1935 TO 1937, BIG STACY POOL WAS BUILT BY THE CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS UNDER THE WORKS PROGRESS ADMINISTRATION. UM, THE, IT WAS NAMED AFTER GENERAL STACY AND STACY HAS BEEN A FOCAL POINT IN MY LIFE FOR 58 YEARS. WHEN IN 1964 WHEN I STARTED SWIMMING THERE AFTER TAKING MY SWIMMING LESSONS, GETTING MY TURTLE, DUCK AND FISH, THEY SAID I COULD SWIM. UM, YOU KNOW, I CONTINUED TO BE ABLE TO STAY AT STACY BECAUSE THERE'S BIG IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAME ON LATER IN THE, UH, THE WANING YEARS. UM, LIKE EXAMPLE SWIMMING IN THE WINTER MONTHS WHEN STACY WENT TO A, A FULL-TIME POOL, UH, BECAUSE THEY HAD A WATER SOURCE OF ARTESIAN WATER THAT ACTUALLY FLOWS UNDER THE, UH, EDWARDS FER. AND THE WATER THAT FEEDS STACY THAT HEATS THE POOL IS ACTUALLY COMES FROM MORE THAN A HUNDRED MILES AWAY. OVER THE YEARS, I'VE WITNESSED MANY CHANGES TO STACY. IT BE BEGAN AS A DRILL, UH, FILL AND DRAW POOL WHERE THEY JUST FILLED IT EVERY DAY AND DRAINED IT. IT WAS ONLY OPEN IN THE SUMMER CUZ IT JUST USED CITY WATER. THE GUARDS BACK THEN WOULD JUST THROW CHLORINE AND THEN IT CHANGED TO ANOTHER POOL, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, CHEMICAL SYSTEM WHERE THEY USED CHLORINE GAS. THE AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO MAKE MANY CALLS THERE, SO THEY GOT RID OF THAT. AND NOW IT HAS A STATE OF THE ART, UH, SYSTEM. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY REALLY ENJOYS THE POOL. KEEPS A CONSTANT TEMPERATURE OF 80 DEGREES. BUT ON DECEMBER 26TH, SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED IN MY LIFE THAT CHANGED ME, UH, FROM, UH, BEING A STACY SWIMMER TO SOMETHING ELSE. I STARTED LIFEGUARD TRADING AND GUESS WHERE I TRAINED AT STACY POOL. IMAGINE THAT. UH, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, I'VE BUILT A LOT OF FRIENDSHIPS AS BEING A LIFEGUARD. UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DO, UH, NOT ONLY MENTIONING STACY AS ITS 85TH ANNIVERSARY, WHICH LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE LIFEGUARDS I'VE WORKED WITH OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS HAVE BEEN, UM, A LOT OF FUN. BUT IT'S TIME TO HOLD, GET, UH, YOU KNOW, THROW AWAY THE WHISTLE AND, UH, I'M NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. I'M GONNA, UH, BE A CASHIER. SO Y'ALL WILL STILL SEE ME AT DEEP PETTY, WHICH MAYOR SEE ME THERE BEFORE AND THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY. BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO DO IS MENTION A FEW PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE AQUATIC STAFF THAT I REALLY HAD A GOOD TIME WITH. GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR THOUGHT. OKAY, THAT WOULD BE BG SIX, ADAM DEANDRE, [02:50:01] HANNAH MIL, MATT MARK, THE, THE PAUL PEDRO EDWARD THOMAS BALLPOINT, AND DALE JULIAN. TAP. ALLEN JAYDEN FOR THE ART AND CALLAHAN FOR HER REVISION. AND SANDY C FOR BEING MY FRIENDLY MUSE TO PASS. UH, INSERVICES. ALSO, I WANTED TO CLOSE WITH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RAISE. I GOT MY PAYCHECK YESTERDAY AND IT'S A DEFINITELY IMPROVEMENT. THE MORALE OF LIFEGUARDS HAS INCREASED A HUNDRED PERCENT. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR GETTING US, UM, FULL-TIME POSITIONS. AND I HOPE, UH, TO SEE ALL AT THE PUBLIC POOLS. THANK YOU AND MAY THANK YOU. YES, THANKS. REMEMBER QUICK COMMENT. I, I REMEMBER I LOVE STACY POOL TOO. UH, I KNOW THEY REMODELED IT A WHILE BACK AND, AND I KNOW IT LOOKS GREAT, BUT I MISS THAT WARM WATER PIPE THAT YOU COULD HANG OFF OF AND JUST KIND OF BATHE IN THAT, THAT HOT WATER WAY BACK. UH, UH, UH, OH, I MISS THAT SO MUCH. BUT IT'S A GREAT POOL. I REALLY ENJOY IT. APPRECIATE YOUR FAMILY. I SECOND THAT. IT WAS A BACK MASSAGE, HOUSE BAR TOVO. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR, UM, COMING DOWN HERE, BUT ALSO FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN CREATING THAT PARTY. THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN. IT WAS A GREAT COMMUNITY EVENT AND IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO CELEBRATE, UM, ONE OF OUR REALLY UNIQUE HISTORIC ASSETS. SO THANKS, THANKS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT. THANKS SPEAKER. DEBBIE ROMERO SHOULD APPROACH. COME ON. HELLO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. ATLER. I COME HERE TODAY, UH, AGAIN, IT'S BEEN ABOUT THREE TIMES I'VE ALREADY BEEN HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. I COME HERE WITH MY COMMUNITY. IT IS MY COMMUNITY HERE AT 48 11 SOUTH CONGRESS. GO MOBILE HOME PARK. UH, WE'RE HERE TO ASK, UH, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. WE WANNA APPLAUD Y'ALL FOR HELPING US DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO HERE. UH, WE CAME TO SEE IF Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO BUY THE PROPERTY AT GOGO MOBILE HOME PARK. UH, WE HAD PUT IT ON, ON THE DOCKET THE LAST TIME TO SPEAK WITH Y'ALL. I HAD TOOK, I GET, I GAVE EVERYBODY A PACKET TWO WEEKS AGO BEFORE MY SESSION HERE IN Y'ALL'S BOXES TO SEE IF Y'ALL WERE ABLE. I GAVE Y A BUNCH OF DATA AND DISCOVERY TO SEE IF Y'ALL COULD FIND THE OWNERS TO BUY THE PROPERTY FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGHT. THEY GAVE US TO NOVEMBER 1ST. ME BRIEF YOU UP TO NOVEMBER 1ST TO MOVE OUT. UM, WE ONLY HAVE LIKE MAYBE TWO WEEKS LEFT. UM, AT THAT PROPERTY, MS. VANESSA FUENTES DID REACH OUT TO US. WE THANK YOU MS. FUENTES FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR DUTY. UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, UH, WE HAVEN'T EVEN MET. UH, P RENTER HASN'T REACHED OUT TO US DIRECTLY. I'VE NOT EVEN SPOKEN TO HIM. I'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO HIM. THEY'RE SAYING HE'S MY DISTRICT. WE WENT WITH HIM FIRST. UM, I, WE DID SPEAK TO SOMEBODY AND HIS STAFF, BUT IT WAS UN IT WAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED OF. THERE WAS NO ACCOMPLISHMENT IN WHAT WE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. UM, OUR NEEDS IS THAT WE NEED HELP. WE NEED, UH, FUNDING, WE NEED HELP. UH, WE'RE LOSING OUR HOMES. UH, THERE'S A BUNCH OF OF US HERE. WE WE'RE GONNA BE HOMELESS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. UH, WE'RE TRYING TO STOP, UH, FROM BEING HOMELESS HERE. WE NEED HELP. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO SEE IF Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO BUY THE PROPERTY. WE STILL HAVE NOT YET HEARD FROM Y'ALL STAFF. I KNOW MR. LER YOU ASKED MS. VANESSA FUENTES AND PO TO HELP THEM TO WORK TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVER GOT TO WORK TOGETHER TO HELP US, BUT WE NEED A RESPONSE. WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR, WITH US AND OUR COMMUNITY. YOU GUYS TURN TO YEAH, I, I DID LOOK INTO IT. UH, IT'S, IT'S GOING JUST TO PASS THE RES. WE'RE WORKING ON A RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME. UH, WHERE GONNA HAVE TO DO AN APPRAISAL, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEN SUBMIT. THERE'S A POLICY THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT BECAME VIOLATE. WE CAN ONLY PAY UP TO WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO, WHAT'S THE PAID VALUE IS. NOW, IF THE OWNER WANTS MORE, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK IT OUT TO TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. SO IT'S GONNA TAKE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, JUST TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED. AT LEAST SIX WEEKS TO EIGHT WEEKS, PROBABLY EIGHT WEEKS NOW. SO THAT'S TWO MONTHS FROM NOW JUST TO PASS A RESOLUTION THROUGH HERE. THEN WE HAVE TO GET REAL, REAL ESTATE TO GO OUT THERE AND DO AN APPRAISAL ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEN OFFER THEM, UH, THE, UH, THE VALUE SO THEY CAN SELL IT TO US. NOW THAT'S GONNA BE A PROCESS. SO, UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE. NOTHING EVER HAPPENS HERE IN CITY HALL. THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY QUICKLY. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG Y'ALL GONNA BE ABLE TO LAST THERE, BUT WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN BUYING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY CUZ IT'S GONNA BE ON OUR GO LINE, ONE OF OUR TRAFFIC STOPS AREA. SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A PROCESS AND I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT IT'S GONNA BE DONE BEFORE NOVEMBER. WE BROUGHT THIS TO THE TABLE SINCE MAY 31ST. WE'VE REACHED OUT IN THE FIRST TWO MONTHS. WE'VE BEEN WAITING [02:55:01] FOR HIS, FOR MR. UH, RENTER'S PO RENTER'S RESPONSE. AND THEN NOW WE BROUGHT IT TO THE TABLE AGAIN. WE, IN THE MEANTIME, I'VE CAME ONE TIME EVERY MONTH HERE TO CITY HALL TO SPEAK ON THE BEHALF OF THE TRAILER PARK. AND IT'S BEEN OVERLOOKED. IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN THREE MONTHS THAT BEEN JUST THROWN TO THE SIDE. THEY'RE SAYING IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME. WE HAD FIVE MONTHS THAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING AND I EVEN VOLUNTEERED MY SERVICES HERE AS A COMU IN THE COMMUNITY. I BROUGHT RESEARCH FOR EACH AND EVERY PERSON HERE TO PROCEED THE, UH, PROCESS IN GETTING THIS DONE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW FAST. UM, I BROKE MY COLLARBONE JUST GOING OUT, JUST WALKING OUT OF THE HOUSE TO GRAB MY SUIT TO COME SPEAK IN CITY HALL. I HAVE SEVERAL CHILDREN AND I HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THESE PEOPLE. I MEAN, NOPE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO HELP FOR THEM. AND I, I THANK YOU MR. RENDER FOR FINDING, GIVING ME YOUR ANSWER. BUT IT'S ALREADY, I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE WEEKS TO MOVE OUT OF THIS PROPERTY. YOU KNOW. UM, I'M GONNA ASK FOR MORE TIME AT THE PROPERTY. THESE PEOPLE HERE AT CITY HALL AND COLORADO, THEY BOUGHT CITY HALL, BOUGHT ALL THE TRAILER PARKS IN COLORADO. SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT THEY CAN SAY IT CANNOT BE DONE IN COLORADO. THEY BOUGHT EVERY TRAILER PARK. THERE WAS HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT WERE GONNA BE THROWN INTO THE STREETS. BUT THE, THE MAYOR AT IN COLORADO STATE DID NOT WANT HIS COMMUNITY. HIS, HIS PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HIM. HE LEFT THE LEGACY. AND THESE PEOPLE, IF YOU CAN SEE THEIR FACES, THEY BOUGHT THEIR PROPERTY. SO IT CAN BE DONE. AND WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR HELP. I MEAN, WE, WE DON'T WANT OUR GRANDCHILDREN TO BE HOMELESS, OUR, OUR FAMILIES TO BE HOMELESS. I WANT YOU TO LEAVE A LEGACY, MR. MAYOR, I KNOW YOU'RE LEAVING SOON AND I'M STANDING HERE BESIDE YOU. IF YOU WANNA STAY OUTTA THE TERM, WE'RE HERE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH YOU. UM, WE ASK THAT YOU HELP US. EVEN IF Y'ALL, IF WE'LL WAIT FOR THE PROCESS OUT, I'LL ASK FOR AN EXTENSION, UH, TO STAY THERE ON THE PROPERTY, TO FIGHT ANOTHER FIGHT. CUZ I'M HERE TO FIGHT FOR THESE PEOPLE. I'M ONE VOICE, BUT LIKE, YOU SEE THE COMMUNITY'S BEHIND ME, I FIGHT FOR THEM. SO MY SENSE IS PROBABLY YOU NEED TO TO, TO WORK THE COUNCILS TO TRY TO GET IT ADDED TO THE BUDGET OR TO GET IT ADDED TO A BOND PROGRAM THAT I KNOW IS COMING UP. IN THE MEANTIME, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY REACH OUT TO BASA. UH, ON THE, ON THE SHORT TERM. I SPOKE WITH THEM. THEY, THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T, UM, IT WASN'T NOTHING THAT THEY WERE DOING FOR US. UM, THEY DIDN'T WANT, THEY WANTED TO TAKE, UH, MY SISTER THAT WAS IN A LIVER TRANSPLANT CENTER, SHE WAS BASICALLY DYING. THEY WANTED HER TO SPEAK. SHE WAS IN THE SAN ANTONIO LIVER CENTER. SHE WAS TRYING TO GET THE PEOPLE TO SPEAK THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO SPEAK. YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET HELP WITH YOU IN THE SHORT TERM. YEAH. IF THE, IF THE LANDLORD EXTENDS IT SO THAT YOU CAN WORK THE, THE POLITICAL PROCESS, THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT IN CASE YOU CAN'T, PROBABLY SHOULD REACH OUT TO BAA FOR THE MORE SHORT TERM IF WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL TO, UH, GET TO GET THEM TO DO THIS. I MEAN, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD GET MORE CD FUNDING THE, WE DID APPLY FOR CITY FUNDING JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE BACKGROUND. NO, UM, IT WASN'T ENOUGH. I MEAN, IT WAS SOME, BUT IT WASN'T ENOUGH TO GET US OUT OF THERE. WE'RE LEAVING OUR TRAILER HOMES THAT WE, WE REMODELED. A LOT OF US HAVE RECEIPTS THAT WE REMODELED THE HOMES. UH, THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE THAT WE BUILT. CAN, CAN SOMEONE IN HOUSING STAFF ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER REACH OUT TO THESE FOLKS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT FUNDING'S AVAILABLE, NOT AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR WITH RESPECT TO HOUSING PROJECTS OR TALK TO THEM ON, ON, ON HOW THE CITY DISPERSES AND DECIDES IT'S PROJECTS. WE, WE COULD DO THAT BOTTLE UP. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU. WE ALL THANK YOU. HERE IS THE COMMUNITY. WE THANK YOU. YOU GOOD MAYOR? THANK YOU. YOU GUYS ARE TOTAL MAYOR. I THINK YOUR SUGGESTION OF REACHING OUT AGAIN TO, TO BOSTON IS A REALLY GOOD ONE BECAUSE ALL OF THE PROCESSES THAT ARE BEING DESCRIBED ARE, ARE LONG, LONGER. THEY'RE JUST GONNA TAKE TOO LONG. SO I, YES, WE WORK WITH THEM FOR THREE WEEKS AT THE BEGINNING. YEAH. THERE WAS NO MOMENTUM. SO WE WENT AHEAD AND WE, WE GOT THIS FAR. SURE. I UNDERSTAND THIS A TERRIBLE SITUATION. I HOPE, UM, I HOPE THAT BOSS IS ABLE TO ASSIST YOU IN YOUR, IN YOUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND, OKAY. I'LL TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT. UM, FOR OUR HOUSING AND PLANNING STAFF, THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY ON OUR LAND ACQUISITION OF THOSE PROJECT CONNECT ANTIS DISPLACEMENT DOLLARS. THERE HAVE NOW BEEN TWO MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DISPLACED ALONG SOUTH CONGRESS. WE KNOW WHAT'S ACTIVELY HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TO MOVE MORE QUICKLY. THANK YOU. ME ALSO, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY BAA DIDN'T WANT NOT WANT TO WORK WITH YOU? WELL, THEY DID, THEY DID WORK WITH US. BUT THE THING IS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE, UM, I, THAT THERE WERE MY SIBLINGS AND TWO OF THEM I CARE FOR. I HAD TO RESIGN FOR MY, MY POSITION AT MY JOB FOR 25 YEARS TO TAKE CARE OF MY SISTER. SHE'S A LIVER TRANSPLANT. HOW COME? THEY, THEY, THEY COULDN'T, THEY WANTED HER, HER TO SPEAK. SHE'S ON A DYING BED AND SHE WASN UNABLE TO SPEAK HERE. WHY DID THEY WANT HER TO SPEAK? I DON'T KNOW. I'M STILL QUESTIONING THAT. I ASKED HER THAT SHE COULD NOT SPEAK. THEY SAID THAT SHE, WHY WOULDN'T THEY ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK? SHE DIDN'T WANT ME TO SPEAK. SHE WANTED ME TO RESIGN FROM MY POSITION AND HELPING THESE PEOPLE. AND THESE PEOPLE [03:00:01] NEED TO HELP YOU LIVE THERE. I'M SORRY. DO YOU LIVE THERE ON THE PLANET? I DID LIVE THERE FOR 53 YEARS, SIR. BUT YOU STILL, YOU DON'T LIVE THERE ANYMORE? I, I TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE THREE TIMES A WEEK THERE. I TAKE CARE OF MY MOM THAT'S 81 YEARS OLD. I TAKE CARE OF MY SISTER THAT HAD A STROKE, THAT SHE'S BRAIN DEAD. I CARE HER TWO DAYS. I TAKE CARE OF MY SISTER WITH A LIVER TRANSPLANT THAT LIVES WITH MY MOM AND MY MOTHER. BUT YOU DON'T LIVE THERE. VOLUNTEER THERE? I VOLUNTEER THERE. OKAY. SO AGAINST MARIA, I THINK THE BUS HAS INDICATED THAT THEY, THEY WOULD TRY TO HELP. SO I WOULD GO BACK TO BAA AND THEY HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH MOBILE HOME BUYOUT. SO I'D SUGGEST YOU THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. PROBABLY YOU SHOULD PROBABLY REACH BACK OUT TO THEM. YEAH. SHE DIDN'T WANT ME TO SPEAK FOR THEM. SHE DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE THE ADVOCATE FOR THEM. UM, SOME OF THEM DON'T KNOW ENGLISH. THEY'RE NEED HELP. THEY'RE GROUP THAT WE FIND TO HELP OUT, HELP HELP PEOPLE IN, IN THIS KIND OF, BUT THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. LET'S GO ON TO THE THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GO ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. ETHAN OSBORNE. HELLO EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS ETHAN OSBORNE, PLANT K. WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE LISTENING TO OUR ANNUAL TEXAS FIREWORK SHOW AND CELEBRATION OF DILLO LOS MUERTOS ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 31ST AT 9:30 PM BEHIND CRAIG FIELD, UH, LOCATED ON PLEASANT VALLEY IN EAST AUSTIN. THIS FREE EVENT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND MADE POSSIBLE WITH THE SUPPORT FROM THE FOG FOUNDATION FOR THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS PLANET CASE FREE HALLOWEEN FIREWORKS. BEGIN OUR MONTH OF GIVING THAT BENEFITS LOCAL AUSTIN CHARITIES, INCLUDING AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, MEALS ON WHEELS, CENTRAL TEXAS FOOD BANK HOUSE, THE HOMELESS, AND THE AUSTIN HARM REDUCTION CO COALITION. WE HOPE ALL AUSTIN NIGHTS WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR FREE FIREWORKS AND COME OUT MONDAY, OCTOBER 31ST AT 9:30 PM BEHIND CRAIG FIELD. ALSO, PLEASE CONSIDER GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE LOCAL CHARITY. FOR MORE INFORMATION AND DETAILS ON THE HALLOWEEN FIREWORKS AND ACCEPTING DONATIONS, PLEASE VISIT TEXAS, UH, PLANET K TEXAS.COM OR COME INTO ANY OF OUR 11 AUSTIN LOCATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. DANIEL MCCARTHY. HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. UH, I'M DANIEL MCCARTHY. I'M NOT A LOBBYIST FOR BIG BOCHE. UM, I'M ACTUALLY A CANDIDATE FOR STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 48. UH, I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND, UH, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THE AUSTIN PD SHOULD CARRY THEIR OWN LIABILITY INSURANCE INSTEAD OF RELYING ON THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN TO BAIL THEM OUT EVERY TIME. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BUT, UH, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE TOPICAL FOR THIS WEEK. UH, AUSTIN ENERGY IS PROPOSING A POWER SUPPLY ADJUSTMENT OF 4.92 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR. ACCORDING TO THE AUSTIN MONITOR ARTICLE FROM YESTERDAY. THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 71% ABOVE THE, THE CURRENT CHARGE. UH, THIS IS DUE TO BUDGET SHORTFALLS AT AUSTIN ENERGY, WHICH HAS BEEN RUNNING A DEFICIT, UH, MOST MONTHS OF THIS YEAR. AS ADLER HIMSELF NOTED, UH, IN THIS ARTICLE, THE UTILITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY CHOICE ABOUT PAYING THOSE BILLS. UH, UNLIKE RE UH, SORRY. AUSTIN RESIDENTS ALSO DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. UNLIKE OTHER MAJOR CITIES LIKE DALLAS, FORT WORTH, HOUSTON, AND EL PASO, AUSTIN RESIDENTS ARE FORCED INTO THIS MONOPOLY. IN FACT, THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IS WEIGHING MEASURES TO FIGHT A 4.5% INCREASE BY ENCORE OR PRIVATE UTILITY THAT PROVIDES MUCH OF THE CITY. THAT'S HALF A PENNY PER KILOWATT. CONTRAST THAT, UH, WITH THE DYES HERE, CONSIDERING A 71% INCREASE, ALMOST 5 CENTS PER KILOWATT, UH, AUSTIN NEEDS DEREGULATION AND BADLY. I ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO CONSIDER IT. UH, REGARDLESS, I WILL INTRODUCE A MEASURE AT THE STATE LEVEL, SHOULD I BE ELECTED ON NOVEMBER 8TH TO GIVE MY CONSTITUENTS HERE IN AUSTIN AND ALL TEXANS A CHOICE FOR POWER SUPPLIER, AND ALSO MOVE TO DEREGULATE OTHER THINGS SUCH AS GAMBLING, DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, , REMOVING BLUE LAWS WITH RESPECT TO ALCOHOL AND AUTOMOBILES. UH, REP DAN.COM, R E P D A N.COM IS MY SITE. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. SADIE PACK. THAT CONCLUDES OUR NOON SPEAKERS. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, REAL QUICKLY [Items 46 & 47] BEFORE WE, UH, TAKE OFF, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS. WE CAN JUST TAKE QUICK VOTES ON ITEM 46 AND 47. 46 IS PRIVATE ACTIVITY BOND 47 IS THE DOWNTOWN D BONUS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRIVATE ACTIVITY? BOND COUNCIL POOL MAKES A MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER ALICE, SECOND THAT IN DISCUSSION. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. [03:05:02] THOSE OPPOSED, I'M SHOWING EVERYBODY BEING IN FAVOR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY, UH, OFF THE, UH, OFF THE DAY AS THAT PASSES. ITEM NUMBER 47 IS THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS. UM, IS THEIR MOTION TO APPROVE THAT ITEM. COUNCIL, REMEMBER, TOBO MAKES THAT MOTION. ZERO SECONDS TO THAT ITEM. UM, COUNCIL PULLED SECONDS THAT ITEM IN A DISCUSSION JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER REALLY WORKING TO, TO FIND A, A GOOD LANDING PLACE FOR THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE. UM, TYPICALLY MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE FOR IT TO REMAIN ON SITE AS IT IS THE PREFERENCE OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, BUT THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, OF THIS MOVE. UM, AND THERE'S SOME, SOME EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT IT, THAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THAT SITE INITIALLY. AND I ALSO THINK THE USE AT, UH, GUADALUPE CDC OR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, YEAH, GUADALUPE G NDC, UM, GOT A LUPE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS A REALLY GREAT OUTCOME FOR, FOR THE FAMILIES THAT WILL OCCUPY THAT HOUSE. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SECOND PLACE, RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED, I'M SHOWING YOU UNANIM ON DI COUNCIL. MARK KELLY OFF COLLEAGUES. IT IS, UM, 1 23. UH, I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE COME BACK AT, UH, TWO O'CLOCK AND WE'LL BEGIN SPEAKERS, UH, AT THAT POINT IN TIME IN ZONING, WE'LL HANDLE THE ZONING CONSENT AND THEN WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO AUSTIN ENERGY. UM, I'M SHOWING THAT, UM, ADDITION TO THE POLL ITEMS, WE HAVE THE STATESMAN PUT TO, UH, DEAL WITH ITEM NUMBER 74, WHICH IS THE BALANCING REQUIREMENTS WITH ENTITLEMENTS, UM, UH, ISSUE. UH, AND I'M SHOWING THAT WE HAVE, UH, THE PULLED ITEMS 32 AND 33 CONCERNING, UH, UH, HOMELESSNESS, SUNRISE, RISE AND STREET, UH, OUTREACH. UM, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 39, WHICH IS A CONCRETE POOR, UH, ISSUE. SO WE HAVE LESS FOR THE REST OF THE DAY. I THINK THERE MAY BE JUST THE, THE PUT ON ZONING THAT IS NOT CONSENT, BUT WE'LL SEE WHEN WE GET THERE. CA 30TH? UH, YES. AND, UH, I RESPONSE TO ALL THE, TO, UH, QUESTIONS UPON HEB. I POSTED THEM ON THE MESSAGE BOARD. YOU DID WHAT? ALL THE ANSWERS ON THE MESSAGE BOARD. OKAY. ON THE MESSAGE BOARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A RECESS HERE AT 1 24 IN CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE'RE BACK AT, UH, TWO O'CLOCK HERE FOR SPEAKERS. SO, I DON'T KNOW, UM, FIRST I WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR REBECCA. SHE'S BEEN WAITING. OH, MY LONG. [Live Music: Flora & Fawna] UM, BUT SINCE YOU WERE HERE, YOU PROBABLY GOT A CHANCE TO SEE WHY IT IS THAT I SO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL BRINGS IN MUSIC INTO THIS CHAMBER. UH, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO GET THROUGH THE DAY WITHOUT THE, THE MUSIC THAT COMES INTO THIS PLACE, BUT IT'S REALLY FITTING THAT IT DOES. CUZ THAT'S WHO WE ARE IN THIS CITY. WE ARE, WE ARE THIS CULTURE WHERE THE, WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. AND A BIG PART OF THAT IS, IS, IS MUSIC. I PASS THROUGH THE CITY IN THE LATE SEVENTIES, LIKE A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS WHO COME HERE TO GO TO SCHOOL, NO INTENTION OF STAYING. AND I STAYED AND ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WAS THE, THE, THE MUSIC. UH, AND IT IS, UM, IT, IT CONTINUES TODAY. SO TODAY WITH US, UH, IN AUSTIN'S CITY COUNCIL'S EQUIVALENT OF CARNEGIE HALL, WE HAVE BROUGHT, UM, UH, FLOM AND FAUNA WITH US. THANK YOU. DON'T SIT QUIET. SO WE KEEP TAKING TWISTING AND NASTY. MY WELL, WE, YOU'RE SO COOL AND CALCULATED. I'M SO HOT. BEST STAY STRONG TO YOU. THIS [03:10:15] MOTHERS, THOUGH, WE WON'T ADMIT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE GONNA PRESS THAT SOUND INTO THE WALLS AND I'LL BE PULL, UH, YOU KNOW, 10 O'CLOCK TONIGHT, I'LL BE PULLING IT BACK OUT AGAIN. GOOD . SO, SO, UM, PEOPLE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WATCH THIS LATER WHEN IT, WHEN IT, WHEN IT PLAYS OR WATCHING IT NOW IF THEY WANT TO, TO, TO COME AND HEAR YOU. WHERE WOULD YOUR NEXT GIG BE IN THE CITY? WELL, OUR NEXT GIG IS AT ACL THIS SUNDAY. OH, WE ARE SO EXCITED TO PLAY OUR CITY'S BIGGEST FESTIVAL. WE'RE PLAYING SUNDAY AT THE MILLER LIGHT STAGE AT 1145. WE'RE OPENING UP THE DAY, UM, AND WE CANNOT WAIT. WE HOPE TO SEE ALL THERE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE FESTIVAL, WE WILL BE PLAYING EMOS ON OCTOBER 21ST. VERY COOL. AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO FOLLOW YOU. HOW DO THEY FOLLOW YOU ON SOCIAL MEDIA? YOUR WEBSITE? YOU CAN FIND, YOU CAN FIND US, YOU CAN FIND US. UM, WE ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. IT'S FLORA AND FAUNA BAND, BUT THE TRICK IS, IS THAT ALTHOUGH WE ARE FAIRLY DECENT AT MUSIC, UH, WE DO SPELL IT F A W N A, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A CUTE THING. LIKE A DEER, LIKE A FAW, YOU KNOW? VERY CUTE THING. THANK YOU. VERY CUTE. THANK YOU. VERY WELL. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION HERE TODAY AND IT IS WITH INCREDIBLE APPRECIATION, UH, THAT, THAT ARTISTS LIKE YOURSELVES, UH, COME IN AND, AND AND PLAY FOR US, BE IT KNOWN THAT WHEREAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN, TEXAS IS BLESSED WITH MANY CREATIVE MUSICIANS WHOSE TALENT EXTENDS TO VIRTUALLY EVERY MUSICAL GENRE. AND WHEREAS OUR MUSIC SCENE THRIVES BECAUSE AUSTIN AUDIENCES SUPPORT GOOD MUSIC PRODUCED BY LEGENDS, OUR LOCAL FAVORITES IN NEWCOMERS ALIKE. AND WE ARE AS WE ARE PLEASED TO SHOWCASE AND SUPPORT OUR LOCAL ARTISTS. NOW, THEREFORE, I, STEVE ADLER, MAYOR OF [03:15:01] THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 13TH OF THE YEAR 2022 AS FLORA AND FAUNA DAY IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WOW. WOW. YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECONVENE THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2022. IT IS TWO 13, UH, COLLEAGUES, UH, IT'S TWO O'CLOCK. LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, HEAR THE, UH, ZONING SPEAKERS. BUT AFTER JERRY, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'S BEING POSTPONED? SURE. MAYOR JERRY, REST OVER THE HOUSING PLAN DEPARTMENT. OUR POSTPONEMENTS FOR TODAY ARE LOOKING LIKE ITEMS NUMBER 54. UM, ITEMS NUMBER ITEM 57 58, 59 60. SORRY, I SHOW 58 IS CONSENT, SECOND AND THIRD. I'M SORRY. OKAY, I'LL START OVER. . OKAY. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE POSTPONEMENT BY THE APPLICANT ON IM 54 TO OCTOBER 27TH, 57 HAS A POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO NOVEMBER, 1560. HAS A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY THE STAFF TO OCTOBER 27TH. SORRY, GOING BACKWARDS. 1 59 HAS AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT. UM, NUMBER 63 HAS POSTPONE REQUESTS BY MAYOR PROTE TO OCTOBER 27TH. UM, ITEM 67 HAS A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY THE STAFF TO OCTOBER 27TH. AND THOSE ARE ALL THE, UH, POSTPONES MAYOR. THANK YOU. I HAVE 54, 57, 59, 60, 63 AND 67, 63 AND 67. WE ALSO HAD A RECENT ADDITION. NUMBER 53, WE'LL HAVE A POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO OCTOBER 27. OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, UH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THE SPEAKERS SPEAKING REMOTELY. THOMASINA TIERA, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS THOMASINA TIINA. I AM THE CHAIRPERSON OF A NON-PROFIT BASED HOUSING COMPLEX IN AUSTIN. THAT COMPLEX IS A SUBSIDIARY OF THE SAFE ALLIANCE. TODAY I AM SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF ITEMS NUMBER 64 AND 65. IN 1997, I SAY THAT THE WOMEN'S SHELTER FOR THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE TIME OF SIX WEEKS. AND THEN AFTER THAT I WAS IN TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE TIME OF 18 MONTHS. IS MY MEMORY. MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY. AFTER THAT I THOUGHT I WAS READY TO BE ON MY OWN BECAUSE I HAD A STUDY JOB AGAIN, I HAD A MASTER'S DEGREE. I HAD 20 YEARS OF WORK HISTORY, BUT I ALSO HAD FOUR DAUGHTERS, 8, 7, 8, 12 AND 13. AND MY EX-HUSBAND WAS NOT HELPING US FINANCIALLY, BUT I WAS DETERMINED TO KEEP THEM IN THE SAME SCHOOL WITH THE SAME FRIENDS AND TEACHERS THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS KNOWN. SO WE MOVED BACK TO OUR OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. THEN ABOUT TWO YEARS AFTER LEAVING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THE.COM, MY MANAGERIAL SALARY AND OUR STABLE RENTED PROPERTY ALL WENT, OOPS. WE SLEPT ON CHURCH FLOORS. WE WERE HOMELESS AGAIN. THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF WOMEN'S HOMELESS HOMELESSNESS IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT PATH FROM BEING A VICTIM TO A THRIVING WITHOUT SURVIVING, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE, PERSON TRAUMA FORCES, ADAPTATIONS AND ACCEPTANCE. THERE ARE MANY PITFALLS AND RESTARTS BECAUSE MY FAULTS LANDED ME INTO SHELTER AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OR HOUSING PROVIDED BY OR ARRANGED BY A NONPROFIT. I HAD A SAFETY NET AT FIRST WHEN I WAS AT THE SHELTER AND IN TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT I WAS HOMELESS. I HAD SHELTER, MY CHILDREN HAD SHELTER, BUT SOMEONE KINDLY INFORMED ME THAT DESPITE HAVING SHELTER, TECHNICALLY I WAS HOMELESS. PLEASE HELP ME TO HELP SAFE ALLIANCE [03:20:01] AND THE OTHER NONPROFITS IN THIS CONSORTIUM TO HELP OTHER DESPERATE, HOMELESS PEOPLE REGAIN SOME PLACE TO CALL HOME. PLEASE HELP ME TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE. WE CAN DO THIS. WE CAN. HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE RESILIENT. DESPITE WHAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD. WE ARE NOT ALL UNWILLING TO WORK OR ASSIMILATE. SOME OF US HAVE JUST RUN INTO SOME MENTAL, EMOTIONAL, FINANCIAL OR PHYSICAL CHALLENGES AND WE NEED HELP. PLEASE HELP US. THANK YOU. ROBERT BATMAN, ITEM 68, MAYOR IN COUNSEL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. HELLO, UH, MAYOR IN COUNSEL. I AM BOB BATMAN OF THE TEXAS AND A PROPERTY PROJECT. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE STATESMAN HU A 2018 ARTICLE BY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES. TALKED ABOUT AUSTIN TOPPING MANY BEST CITY LISTS THAT BEING THE MOST ECONOMICALLY SEGREGATED CITY IN THE US THAT WENT ON TO PRAISE WORK TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC SEGREGATION OR PROGRESS HAS BEEN DISAPPOINTING. WHO WILL BE SERVED BY THE PROPOSED PUT REGARDLESS OF MINOR ACCOMMODATIONS THE DEVELOPER MIGHT ACCEPT WHO WILL LIVE, PARK, DINE, AND SHOP THERE WHO WILL BE DRAWN TO THE GREEN SPACES? THOSE BENEFITING WILL NOT BE IN LINE WITH THE PROMISE SUGGESTED IN THE ARTICLE. PLEASE VOTE NO. A YES VOTE WILL LEAD TO MORE ECONOMIC SEGREGATION. SEVERAL OF YOU WERE ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME AND ARE NEARING THE END OF YOUR SERVICE. A NO VOTE CONTINUES YOUR VISION TO REDUCE AUSTIN'S ECONOMIC SEGREGATION. THANK YOU RUBY ROA, ITEM 68. MY NAME IS RUBY ROA, A MEMBER OF AUSTIN WOMEN IN HOUSING AND A MEMBER OF THE LADIES OF CHARITY OF AUSTIN, A CATHOLIC ORGANIZATION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE AMERICAN STATESMAN. UH, I SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE OF COLOR WORKING TWO OR THREE JOBS. WE HAVE A MORAL AND SOCIAL OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE DECENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EVERY CORNER OF THIS CITY. WE DO NOT HAVE TO GIVE THE DEVELOPER EVERYTHING THEY OWE. THIS COMMUNITY MORE I BEG YOU TO DO RIGHT BY OUR POOR FAMILIES IS WHAT THIS COUNCIL DOING TO THE LEAST OF OUR FAMILIES, JUST WE ELECTED EACH ONE OF YOU TO MAKE OUR SOCIETY BETTER. WE SIMPLY NEED POLITICIANS AND POLICY MAKERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ORDINARY PEOPLE DO EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES. THEY STRUGGLE WITH WHAT IS HARD FOR THEM, LIKE FINDING A REAL AFFORDABLE HOME FOR THEIR FAMILIES. WE WANT THEM TO LIVE. WE DO NOT WANT THEM TO LIVE IN FEAR AND NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND A SAFE, DECENT, AFFORDABLE HOME. YOU ALL HAVE THE POWER AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO PUT YOU IN THIS OFFICE. I ASK YOU TO DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. DAVID KING, ITEM 68. THANK YOU. UH, I'M YOU TO PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS ELITIST LUXURY PUD OF INEQUITY, THE LUXURY DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE BAT VIEWING AREA. AND BUTLER TRAIL FROM SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE IS INEQUITABLE AND ELITIST. THE LUXURY DEVELOPERS' PROPOSAL TO INHIBIT AND PREVENT PUBLIC ACCESS TO PUBLIC OPEN GREEN SPACE. PUBLIC PARKLAND AND PUBLIC TRAILS IS INEQUITABLE AND ELITIST. THE LUXURY DEVELOPERS' PROPOSAL TO SUBSIDIZE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS LECTURE. LUXURY DEVELOPMENT WITH LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME TAXPAYER MONEY IS EQUITABLE AND ELITIST. THE LUXURY DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL TO PREVENT LOW INCOME FAMILIES FROM LIVING IN THIS LUXURY DEVELOPMENT IS EQUITABLE AND ELITIST. THE LUXURY DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL WILL EFFECTIVELY SUBSIDIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THIS LUXURY DEVELOPMENT WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS PAID FOR BY LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME FAMILIES. THE LUXURY DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL WILL SHIFT THE COST FOR APPROXIMATELY $5.5 MILLION IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DENSITY [03:25:01] BONUS FEES FROM DEVELOPERS TO LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME TAXPAYERS. PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE ANY PUBLICLY FUNDED SUBSIDIES FOR THIS LUXURY DEVELOPMENT. FOR EX THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF ELITE, WEALTHY AND PREDOMINANTLY WHITE FOLKS, PLEASE DO NOT LET LUXURY DEVELOPERS APPROPRIATE PUBLIC SPACES, PUBLIC TRAILS AND PUBLIC ACCESS FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF WEALTHY AND HIGH INCOME PEOPLE. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT HAVE TIES TO THIS LUXURY DEVELOPER OR RECEIVE CAMPAIGN DONATION FROM THIS LUXURY DEVELOPER. SHOULD DURING THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL ELECTION CAMPAIGN, SHOULD RECUSE THEMSELF FROM THIS ITEM, PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS ELITIST LUXURY PUT OF INEQUITY. PLEASE REPEAL THE PUT ORDINANCE AND PLEASE REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE TO APPROVE ANY PUT. THANK YOU CAROLYN. 68 AND 69. UM, UM, HELLO, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN. THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS QUITE POOR PUBLIC POLICY WELFARE FOR THE WEALTHY. IT IS SO OBVIOUSLY AGAINST THE PUBLIC INTEREST. IT LEADS PEOPLE TO WONDER ABOUT UNDO INFLUENCE. IT WILL BE DEVELOPED WITHOUT NECESSITIES BECAUSE IT'S PRIME REAL ESTATE. THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR PROVIDING SUBSIDIES AND DISREGARDING DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR BREAKING CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT PROTECT PRECIOUS PUBLIC PARK LAND AND THE LAKE OR FOR REMOVING ACCESS TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL. THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR PUBLIC SUBSIDIES FOR PRIVATE FACILITIES SUCH AS PARKING GARAGES AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT SHOULD REMAIN AT 10%. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS POD UNLESS IT COMPLIES WITH ALL CURRENT REGULATIONS AND ELIMINATES ALL SUBSIDIES. THANK YOU, KAREN POP 68. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KAREN POP. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A HUGE PRIORITY. ACCORDINGLY, WE HAVE AFFORDABILITY GOALS AND REQUIREMENTS OF SEVERAL ORDINANCES, INCLUDING THE PUT ORDINANCE, THE WATERFRONT, AMEN AMENITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY. LIKE THE 4% AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHOULD BE THOSE IN THE 2016 VISION PLAN. THE INCREASE IN HEIGHT BEYOND THE VISION PLAN SHOULD TRIGGER THE PUT ORDINANCES USE OF 10% TO CALCULATE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS AND 60% OF MFI THAT LEVEL. YOU HAVE A STUDY THAT APPEARS TO MAKE THE AFFORDABLE COMPONENT LOOK INFEASIBLE. IT DOES THIS BY SAYING THE COST OF THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT IS NOT THE COST. INSTEAD, THE STUDY BASES COST ON POTENTIAL LOST REVENUE RATHER THAN GETTING CAUGHT UP IN MATHEMATICAL MODELS. I URGE YOU TO KEEP WORKING ON THIS UNTIL WE GET A PLAN THAT MEETS THE VALUES EXPRESSED IN THE PUT ORDINANCE. THANK YOU GARRETT. NICK, 68 AND 69. UH, HELLO. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, THIS IS A QUOTE FROM YOUR OWN, UH, SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN. THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED DIVISION FRAMEWORK PLAN IN JUNE, 2016 AND AIM TO SET A PATH TO CREATE A DISTRICT WIDE NETWORK OF CONNECTED GREEN STREETS, PARKS, TRAILS, AND PUBLIC OPEN SPACES AND ACHIEVE NEW FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. THE GOAL OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN IS TO ENSURE THAT AS THIS AREA INEVITABLY CHANGES, EVERY INCREMENT OF CHANGE WILL CONTRIBUTE TO MAKING A NEW REGION THAT NUMBER ONE ESTABLISHES A LIVELY, SAFE AND ATTRACTIVE PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT. NUMBER TWO, EXPANDS OPEN SPACES AND CREATES GREAT PUBLIC PLACES. NUMBER THREE, ENHANCES CONNECTION TO AND ALONG THE WATERFRONT. AND NUMBER FOUR INCLUDES 20% NEW HOUSING UNITS THAT AFFORDABLE. NOW I'M NOT A HIGH EDU HIGHLY EDUCATED LAWYER AND I DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO PAY MY FAMILY MEMBERS TO MAKE SHADY CONTRIBUTIONS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO THEN IN TURN SUPPORT MY UH, REQUEST. BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THE STRAIGHTFORWARD GOALS THAT IF THIS COUNCIL VOTED TO SUPPORT AND HOW THEY CONTRADICT THIS CURRENT PROPOSED PUT, LET THE BILLIONAIRE DEVELOPERS HIRE PEOPLE WHO CAN MEET THESE GOALS AND ACHIEVE THEIR FINANCIAL GOALS SIMULTANEOUSLY WITHOUT DEMANDING WE COMPROMISE ON THESE KEY PRINCIPLES OF PARKS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SHOW US THE NUMBERS SO WE CAN ALL SEE HOW UNPROFITABLE THIS PROJECT WOULD BE IF BUILT TO THESE STANDARDS. BE TRANSPARENT SO WE CAN ALL RALLY AROUND IDEAS LIKE TALLER BUILDINGS OR WHATEVER REASONABLE CHANGES CAN BE MADE WHILE PRESERVING THE SPIRIT OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN. BUT DON'T, UH, BUT DON'T, UH, RAM THIS DOWN OUR THROATS WITH SHADY TACTICS AND BILLIONAIRE SOB STORIES. WE'VE HEARD THAT A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE [03:30:01] AND IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. TURN DOWN THIS PUT AND LET SOMEONE MORE CAPABLE FULFILL THE GOALS THAT WE'VE ALL AGREED TO. DON'T LET THIS ONE PERSON TRY TO CONVINCE US ALL THAT THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN SOLVE THEIR PROBLEM AND THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL TREATMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE SIMPLY INCAPABLE OF MAKING ANOTHER BILLION DOLLARS TO PAD THEIR POCKETS BY, BY WAY OF ROBBING US OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE'VE ALL AGREED IS IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY. THANK YOU BILL. OLIVER, IT 60? YES. HELLO, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR US? YES. PROCEED. HELLO. ALRIGHTY, WE'D LIKE TO, WE'RE OUT HERE AT BEAUTIFUL CURVILLE FOLK FESTIVAL. WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU ALL A, A GREAT BIG ROUND OF, NO PUN, NO PUN. HERE WE ARE IN BEAUTIFUL CAMP ANGELS AND GYPSIES AND, UM, WANNA ECHO THE LA UH, PREVIOUS SPEAKER REMINDING YOU THAT ACTUALLY THIS SONG GOES BACK OVER 10 YEARS IN THE VER VARIOUS VERSIONS OF THIS HORRIBLE, UH, DECISIONS ON THIS SITE. AND, UM, HERE WE ARE FROM CAMP KEVILLE TRYING TO, UH, WE WISH WE COULD BE THERE WITH YOU, RICHARD, SO TO ENTERTAIN YOU AND BE WITH YOU ON THIS MOMENT FOR YOUR LEGACY AND, UH, TRY TO HELP ENTERTAIN ANY WAY WE CAN. HERE WE GO, SET BACK SOME. MARION SAYS, FOOL, WE'RE GETTING GRIDLOCK IN URBAN SPRAWL TO CROWDING THE STYLE THE SHORE DISAPPEARS. A LAKE OF RED HERRINGS AND CRO, THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOLKS FROM CURVILLE FOLK FESTIVAL, A WHOLE GANG CAMPERS HERE, MOST OF US FROM OH FOUR ZIP CODE FOLKS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER. WE GOT VIRGINIA PALMER, BETH GALLAGHER WITH, WITH US LAST WEEK. THANKS AGAIN FOLKS. NO TODD, NO TODD, NO THANK YOU MR. OLIVER. ENJOY CURVILLE. UM, IF YOU COULD HELP US WITH OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. KAREN FERNANDEZ IT 70 AND THEN WHO IS NEXT AFTER MS. FERNANDEZ? YEAH. YES MA'AM. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD. UH, PLEASE BEGIN. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY ON ITEM NUMBER 70. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MATTHEWS LANE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND IN SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS AND PETITION SIGNERS ON ALBERT ROAD, WE ASK THAT YOU VOTE FOR THE REZONE TO SF THREE WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OF FOUR UNITS AS RECOMMENDED BY ZAP. THE COMMITTEE TOOK THE TIME TO HEAR THE CASE AND AFTER SOME DISCUSSION, THE COMMISSIONERS CONCLUDED THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD LIKELY ONLY YIELD FOUR UNITS DUE TO A RULE REQUIRING H LOT TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON ALBERT ROSE. COMMISSIONER BETSY GREENBERG MOTION FOR THE SF THREE CO WITH THE CAP OF FOUR UNITS JUST PREVENT SOME OTHER KIND OF SUBDIVISION USING FLAG LOTS. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. CONTRARY TO WHAT MR. MON STATES, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS. REZONING REQUESTS FOR SF THREE WITH UNIT LIMITS ARE AT 1103 AND 1105 MATTHEWS LANE, EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A REN NOSE. THE CORNER OF ALBERT AND MATTHEWS HAD A LIMIT OF NINE UNITS ON TWO AND A HALF ACRES. 1501 DAMON HAS A HOME AND AN AGU BEING BUILT ON A HALF ACRE LOT AND 1512 DAMON PLANS TO DO THE SAME. THE TWO OTHER LOT HE REFERENCES HAVE ONE HOME AND ONE ADU ON OVER AN ACRE, SEVEN TO 3 0 6. ALBERT ROAD HAS A TOTAL OF THREE ACRES AND THE BUILDER HAS PROPOSED SF TWO ZONING WITH 10 TO 12 HOMES AND A COMMON GREEN SPACE WITHIN THE 75 FOOT SETBACK. MR. MONTEON ALSO REFERENCES THE SS SIX REQUEST YET TO BE HEARD BY ZAP. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS VALID PETITIONS ON BOTH AND ARE IN DISCUSSION ON UNIT NUMBERS. ONE OF THE THREE ACRE LOCKS BELONGS TO A LONGTIME RESIDENT WHOSE IDEA IS TO HAVE 25 TINY HOMES TO MAINTAIN GREEN SPACE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR OF THIS PLAN AS IT ADDRESSES FLOODING ISSUES. PROVIDES HABITAT FOR ALL THE DISPLACED WILDLIFE, INCLUDING THE LARGE FLOCK OF FEDERALLY PROTECTED BLACK CULTURES THAT LIVES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WILL ACTUALLY PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT AGAINST MORE HOUSING AND WE LOOK TO THE IMAGINED AUSTIN DECISION GUIDELINES WHEN WORKING WITH OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE ONLY YES ON THE APPLICATION PUT THIS LOT WAS HOUSING CHOICE. THIS PROPERTY IS NOT CLOSE TO TRANSIT. THE CLOSEST BUTT STOP IS OVER A HALF A MILE AWAY ON A NARROW STREET WITH NO SIDEWALKS. PLEASE. [03:35:01] HIS NEIGHBORS, IT'S COMPLETE BUCK OF SIDEWALKS. YOUR TIME HAS ALLOWED FLOODING. THANKS. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. I'M SORRY YOUR TIME HAS ELAPSED. UH, THANKS AGAIN FOR, UM, BEING HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU. UM, UH, KATIE, IF YOU WANT TO FINISH THAT THOUGHT, THEY'VE BEEN DISCONNECTED. SHE'S, WE CAN CALL THEM BACK IF YOU'D LIKE. NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SARAH LORD ON ITEM 70. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF REZONING 74 15 ALBERT TEST OF THREE. I STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE PETITION SIGNING NEIGHBORS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY AND APPROVE OF LIMITING NEW UNITS TO FOUR. THIS IS A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD THAT FEELS SEMI RURAL AND LIKE RURAL FACES. IT LACKS INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. THE STREETS ARE QUITE NARROW PEDESTRIANS OF WHICH THERE ARE MANY WALK IN THE ROAD AS THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS AND THERE ARE NO CURBS OR DRAINS TO MANAGE STORM WATER. ADDITIONALLY, I WAS RECENTLY NOTIFIED THAT MY FAMILY CANNOT ADD ON A 350 SQUARE FOOT SCREENED IN PORCH BECAUSE THE FIRE HYDRANTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE FLOW. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ISSUES SUCH AS THIS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BEFORE ADDING SUBSTANTIALLY MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE, A RESIDENTIAL SPACE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, MOVING TO THIS KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD WAS A DELIBERATE LIFESTYLE CHOICE FOR MY FAMILY. IT'S A HIDDEN POCKET OF QUIRKY, WEIRD OLD AUSTIN. WHILE I THINK THAT ADDING SOME DENSITY IS REASONABLE, I FEEL WE NEED TO BE CONSCIENTIOUS OF WHAT THE EXISTING RESOURCES ARE BEFORE WE ALLOW FOR MORE DENSITY THAN WHAT THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE CAN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. STEEL MESSENGER, 64 AND 65. HI CITY COUNCIL, UM, AND MAYOR ADLER. MY NAME IS STEEL MYER. UM, I AM REPRESENTING THE PETITION SIGNING NEIGHBORS ON THE 52ND AND LANCASTER COURT STREET. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING REQUEST'S. WE SUPPORT THE SAFE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT AT 51 11 THROUGH 51 15 LANCASTER COURT. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO JUSTIFICATION THAT 51 0 7 AND 51 0 9 LANCASTER COURT SHOULD ALSO BE REZONED TO GR. THIS IS A CLEAR CASE OF UP ZONING FOR THE DEVELOPERS AND THERE IS NO REASON THAT THEIR PERSONAL OFFICE SPACE NEEDS TO GET WRAPPED UP IN THE PROPOSED SAFE HOUSING PROJECT. THE REZONING REQUEST COMPLETELY GOES AGAINST THE CITY OF AUSTIN ZONING PRINCIPLES AS IT SETS UNDESIRABLE PRECEDENT FOR OTHER PROPERTIES AND RESULTS IN SPOT ZONING. APPROVING THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD PUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN A VERY VULNERABLE POSITION, GIVING THE DEVELOPERS THE ABILITY TO BUILD A 90 FOOT BUILDING WITH THE AFFORDABILITY AND LOST BONUS PROGRAM. A 90 FOOT BUILDING DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO SINGLE STORY HOMES AND A STREET OF ONLY SINGLE AND TWO STORY MULTI-FAMILY HOMES RESULTS IN DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. IN ADDITION, IT GOES AGAINST THE CITY OF AUSTIN ZONING PRINCIPLES. THE ZONING CHANGES SHOULD PROMOTE COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT AND NEARBY USES, AND SHOULD NOT RESULT IN DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS ON TOP OF THE ZONING REQUEST, NOT MEETING THE ZONING PRINCIPLES. A CHANGE IN ZONING IS NOT NEEDED TO BUILD THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH THE AFFORDABILITY AND LOST BONUS, THE DEVELOPERS ARE ABLE TO BUILD ALMOST EXACTLY THE HEIGHT AND SETBACK NEEDED WITH THE CURRENT ZONING. MR. KENNY WILL SAY THAT THEY NEED THE ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER TO BUILD THEIR PROPOSED BUILDING. SO THAT SIMPLY IS NOT TRUE. THEY ONLY NEED THIS NEW ZONING TO MAKE THEIR FINANCIAL MODEL WORK AS CLEARLY STATED IN THE ORDINANCE PASS BASED CITY COUNCIL. THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED BONUS PROGRAM INTENTIONALLY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR INCREASED IMPERVIOUS COVER, WHICH IS WHAT MR. KENNY IS ASKING FOR. IN ADDITION, CIVIL TWO'S OFFICE BUILDING HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE NEIGHBORS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS WITH NO CLEAR PLAN. DURING THE FOUR 11 CONTACT TEAM MEETING, MR. KENNY STATED THESE LOTS WOULD BE MIXED INCOME HOUSING, INCLUDE OFFICE WITH LIMITED OTHER DETAILS. THANK YOU SPEAKER. UH, IN CONCLUSION WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. THAT CONCLUDES REMOTE. I'LL MOVE ON TO IN PERSON DANIEL WOODRUFF. ITEM 53 ON DECK. DAVID AMHERST, ARM BREAST, DAVID ARMREST, WILLIAM BUNCH. ROY WHALEY ON [03:40:01] ITEMS 53 68 AND 69 WITH ANDY BRESLIN ONDECK. THANK YOU MAYOR OR MAYOR PRO TIM. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M BILL BUNCH WITH SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE HERE URGING YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE POD. IF YOU TAKE ACTION TODAY, UH, MY FIRST REQUEST WOULD BE THAT YOU POSTPONE ACTION AGAIN AND SET A FULL AFTERNOON WORK SESSION JUST ON THIS ITEM ALONE WHERE BOTH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN, UH, WALK THROUGH THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE AND THE EXHIBITS THAT ARE INCORPORATED AND ASK QUESTIONS. THERE IS SO MUCH HERE THAT Y'ALL HAVEN'T EVEN UH, TOUCHED ON AT ALL, AND I THINK YOU WOULD STILL AGREE WITH ME THAT YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, UH, VAST QUANTITIES OF WHAT'S IN THIS ORDINANCE. UM, WHAT'S, WHAT IS IN THIS ORDINANCE, UH, OR WHAT'S NOT IN THIS ORDINANCE IS IT DOESN'T SAY THAT A LEGITIMATE ELECTION IS A STOLEN ELECTION. UH, BUT IT COMES PRETTY CLOSE, UH, REPEATEDLY. THE WORD PUBLIC ACTUALLY MEANS PRIVATE. UM, AND IT'S ADMITTED ONCE RIGHT UP FRONT IN THE, UH, DEFINITION OF PUBLIC REALM, WHICH QUOTE IS DEFINED AS PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY, PRIVATE STREETS AND OPEN SPACE AREAS, BUT MOSTLY THE TERMS, UH, ARE ABUSED, ABUSIVE OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WITHOUT, UH, BEING CLEAR ON THAT. PARK ENCOMPASSES ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT PARK SIDEWALKS THAT ARE REQUIRED ARE COLD PARK STAIRS THAT ARE REQUIRED ARE COLD PARK, UM, AND, UH, SEVERAL OTHER THINGS AS WELL. UM, IT'S CALLED LAND. THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE IS CALLED LAND PARK LAND. UH, A PLAZA DOESN'T MEAN A PLAZA, IT MEANS A SIDEWALK. AND IF WE TOOK SOME TIME TO LOOK AT THE EXHIBIT, THAT'S THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AND WALK THROUGH THAT, YOU COULD SEE THAT THE AREA THAT'S ACTUALLY PARKS LAND IS A TINY FRACTION OF WHAT'S PROPOSED. UNDERGROUND DOESN'T MEAN UNDERGROUND BELOW GRADE DOESN'T MEAN B BELOW GRADE REQUIRED. DOESN'T MEAN REQUIRED BLIGHTED DOESN'T MEAN BLIGHTED, AND SUPERIOR MEANS INFERIOR. UH, MAYOR, YES, I THINK IT'S, UH, MR. BUNCH. UH, MAYOR, I THINK IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF I'M CORRECT, THAT OUR INTENT TODAY IS TO DISCUSS BUT NOT TO VOTE. IS THAT THAT'S CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO MR. BUNCH, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE WILL NOT BE VOTING TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ROLLING. ROY WHALEY IT 53, 68 AND 69. HOW DO Y'ALL MY NAME'S ROY WHALEY AND I AM THE CONSERVATION CHAIR FOR THE AUSTIN REGIONAL GROUP OF THE SIERRA CLUB. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T BEEN OUTRIGHT OPPOSING A PROJECT HERE AT THIS LOCATION OF THE PUT OF THE STATESMEN, BUT THE PROJECT AS, AS PRESENTED AT THIS TIME, UM, WE DO HAVE CONTINUED CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, WHERE THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL WILL BE AND HOW THAT'S IMPACTED. THERE'S NOT A NEED AND THERE'S CERTAINLY NOT A NEED FOR THE CITY TO PAY FOR A BOARDWALK TO HELP THEM, UH, WITH THE LOCATION. UM, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PARK ACCESS, UM, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT BUILDING NEXT TO CONGRESS WILL BE MOVED. AND I ALSO SAW THE RENDERING OF HOW ADA FRIENDS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT AND THEN HAVE AN ELEVATOR DOWN. THEY WILL HAVE A, A SKYWAY FROM, FROM CONGRESS AVENUE AND WE SUPPORT THAT. UM, I STILL QUESTION THE, UH, THE FORMULA FOR THE PARKLAND DEDICATION. UM, AND I WISH Y'ALL WOULD TOO. UM, AND, AND, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE IN AUSTIN. EVERYONE NOT JUST NORTH OF 180 3, BUT PEOPLE NORTH OF SIX 20 AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THE DEVELOPER BENEFITS AND THEY HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THEY DON'T NEED OUR HELP. I, I DON'T AGREE THAT, UH, THEY SHOULD COME SPARE CHANGING ME. I JUST GAVE A DOLLAR TO SOMEONE ON THE STREET WHILE AGO THAT REALLY NEEDED IT. UM, [03:45:01] BUT THAT THE PEOPLE IN NORTH AUSTIN, WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS THEY ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS? WHAT ARE THE DIRECT BENEFITS? I'M NOT WILD ABOUT THE TOUR TURNS. I THINK THAT THIS IS PUBLIC PARK LAND. IT NEEDS TO STAY PUBLIC PARK LAND AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC PARK LAND. PLEASE PROTECT THE LAKE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S A BIG THING. DON'T LET THERE BE A LOT OF RUNOFF AND PUT VERIFIABLE FINES IN PLACE. HAVE THEM POST A SIGNIFICANT BOND TO PROTECT THAT. THANK YOU. ANDY BRESLIN 64 AND 65. HI. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. I'M A RESIDENT OF THE VERANDAS ON 52ND STREET AND WE JUST HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOLITUDE BUILDING SPECIFICALLY CO BECAUSE WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US COULD BE BUILT WITH THE CURRENT ZONING THAT ALLOWS UP TO 60 FEET. THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITHOUT BEING PROVIDED ANY PHYSICAL REPRESENTATION OF A PHYSICAL PLAN. UH, FOR MONTHS, WE HAVE ASKED MR. KENNY TO PROVIDE US AN ACTUAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PLAN, BUT HE CONSTANTLY USES THE SAME EXCUSE THAT HE JUST DOESN'T HAVE IT ON HAND AT THE MOMENT. THE VAGUE DESCRIPTIONS THAT WE HAVE HEARD CONTINUE TO CHANGE. SO AT THIS DATE, WE STILL ARE VERY UNCLEAR ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY THEY'RE PLANNING TO BUILD. WE'VE SEEN THE ROUGH DRAFTS OF THE SAFE ALLIANCE BUILDING, BUT THE CIVIL VALITUDE PROJECT REMAINS A COMPLETE MYSTERY WITHOUT BEING PRESENTED. AN ACTUAL PLAN LEAVES THIS PROJECT OPEN TO UNCERTAIN TEA AND FEAR OF SERIOUS NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO OUR, THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, MR. KENNY HAS AVOIDED THIS TOPIC ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS AND THIS IS UNDERSTANDABLY TROUBLING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS MATTER AND WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU CONNOR KENNY, ITEM 64 AND 65 WITH CONNIE STAGNER ON DECK. HELLO COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, THIS IS A CASE YOU'VE SEEN, UH, SEVERAL TIMES ON THE AGENDA. WE'RE FINALLY READY TO TALK ABOUT IT TODAY. IT IS, UM, AFTER A LOT OF DELAY FOR DISCUSSION WITH STAKEHOLDERS, NEIGHBORS, AND STAFF. THIS IS PART OF THE, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY SUPPORT OF HOUSING COLLABORATIVE, THE SAFE ALLIANCE BUILDING WITH, UH, SIX UNITS PRIMARILY FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN, FLEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT, UH, FOR SAFE ALLIANCE THAT WILL OWN AND OPERATE IT DEBT FREE AND TAX FREE TO HELP CROSS SUBSIDIZE THE OPERATION OF THOSE UNITS. UH, AND FOR CIVIL TO REPLACE OUR OFFICE ACROSS THE STREET. BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET THE LAND FOR THIS PROJECT, WE, UH, THAT LAND WAS NOT FOR SALE. IT WAS ONLY AVAILABLE FOR SWAP UNDERNEATH THE LAND THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER OUR OFFICE, SO WE NEED TO REBUILD IT. UM, THIS PROJECT WAS ENDORSED BY THE CONTACT TEAM AND UNANIMOUSLY BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, I THINK IN PART BECAUSE IT CONTINUES THE SAME LAND USE CATEGORY AND ZONING THAT IT JUST EXISTS ON ADJACENT LOTS AND ON LOTS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BLOCK. UM, THE, THIS IS TWO BUILDINGS ON ONE, UH, IN ONE PROJECT WITH SHARED FACILITIES INCLUDING PARKING, STORM WATER CONTROL, UH, FACILITIES. IT ADDS, UH, UH, THE ADDITION OF THE OTHER BUILDING IS GOING TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF ADDITIONAL PARKING TO THE SAFE BUILDING. UM, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE, UH, A, UH, CURRENT STAFFER AND FORMER CLIENT OF SAFE ALLIANCE HERE TO SPEAK TO THE PROGRAM, UH, AND THE NEED FOR THE BUILDING. THANK YOU. OH, ALSO THIS HAS A, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, AN AWARD, UH, THAT IS, UH, WAITING TO COME TO YOUR AGENDA AS SOON AS THIS ZONING PASSES. SO IT SHOULD COME IN ABOUT SIX WEEKS AFTER THE ZONING PASSES, YOU'LL HAVE THE AWARD IT'S RECEIVED. STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. ANSWER OUR KITCHEN. OH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, UH, TO BRING THIS FORWARD. SO THANK YOU. CONNIE STAGNER, ITEM 65 WITH KELLY WHITE ON DECK. HELLO, HOLD ON. HELLO, MY NAME IS CONNIE SAGNER AND I WORK AT SAFE, WHICH STANDS FOR STOCK VIEW FOR EVERYONE. WE ALL KNOW THAT HOMELESSNESS IS AT CRISIS LEVELS IN AUSTIN, BUT THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF NUMBER 64, NUMBER 65, AND SHARE WHAT THAT CRISIS MEANS, UM, IN THE DAY TO DAY FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEXUAL ASSAULT, UM, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND CHILD ABUSE AT SAFE, OUR EMERGENCY SHELTER IS FULL ALL THE TIME AND HAS A WAITING [03:50:01] LIST. EVEN IF YOU ARE ABLE TO GET YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN INTO OUR SHELTER. DUE TO EXTREME LACK OF SAFE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EXCUSE ME, UM, SPECIFICALLY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING LIKE THE LANCASTER WOULD BE, IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO EXIT OUR SHELTER INTO SAFE HOUSING. CAN YOU IMAGINE MAKING, HAVING TO MAKE THE CHOICE FOR YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN BETWEEN RETURNING TO A VIOLENT HOME OR BECOMING HOMELESS? IN MY YEARS OF RUNNING OUR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM, I FREQUENTLY SAW FAMILIES THAT WORKED DILIGENTLY TO OBTAIN HOUSING VOUCHERS ONLY TO LEARN THAT COMPLEXES WOULDN'T TAKE THEM OR THERE SIMPLY WEREN'T ENOUGH COMPLEXES THAT ACCEPTED THEM A PROBLEM, WHICH HAS JUST INCREASED, UM, DRAMATICALLY IN RECENT YEARS IN TERMS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE, ALL TO OFTEN OUR FORENSIC NURSES AND ADVOCATES WILL SEE A HOMELESS VICTIM WHO WAS RAPED IN THE CAMPS, AND IT BREAKS THEIR HEARTS TO HAVE TO SEND THAT SURVIVOR BACK OUT TO WHERE THEY WERE ASSAULTED, KNOWING IT'S LIKELY TO HAPPEN AGAIN. UM, FOR YOUTH THAT WE SERVE IN OUR CHILD ABUSE AND EXPLOITATION PROGRAMS, THE HOUSING CRISIS ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THEIR CHANCE OF FURTHER RISK. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SAFE HOUSING AND YOU ARE ON THE STREETS, SURVIVAL, SEX AND TRAFFICKING CAN SEEM LIKE YOUR ONLY OPTION. FURTHERMORE, BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT OF TRAUMA, THAT THE IMPACTS THAT TRAUMA RESULT SO MANY, UM, RESULT IN SO MANY OTHER ISSUES FOR VICTIMS, THEY FREQUENTLY FACE A LOT MORE BARRIERS TO FINDING SAFE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. MORE THAN 50% OF VULNERABLE ADULTS LIVING UNSHELTERED IN AUSTIN IDENTIFY AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS AND REPORT RECENT ASSAULTS INCREASING LOW BARRIER, LOW COST HOUSING IS ABSOLUTELY KEY TO REDUCING HOMELESSNESS FOR VICTIMS OF ABUSE, VIOLENCE, ABUSE AND EXPLOITATION ARE EPIDEMIC IN OUR COMMUNITY AND I AND ARE DEEPLY INTERTWINED WITH HOMELESSNESS. I URGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SUPPORTING THE LANCASTER AND, UM, AND, AND EXPANDING OTHER DESPERATELY NEEDED SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN AUSTIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR TIME. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER THAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE, THE TESTIMONY AND I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, UH, IN PARTICULARLY IN IMMIGRATION LAW, DEALING WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS, AND THE OFTENTIMES THE MOST CRITICAL QUESTION IS, WHERE AM I GOING TO GO? YOU KNOW, THAT HOW DO I, YOU KNOW, IF I LEAVE MY HUSBAND, WHERE ARE MY CHILDREN? AND I GOING TO GO? UH, I I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, SAFE ALLIANCE, UH, UH, BRINGING THE PROJECT FORWARD. UH, AND, UH, I'M, I'M JUST APPRECIATE Y'ALL SUPPORT OF IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S SOMETHING WE STRUGGLE WITH EVERY DAY AND IT BREAKS OUR HEARTS. THANK YOU. KELLY WHITE, 65 BEN ECK. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME IS KELLY WHITE, AND FOR MANY OF YOU, YES, I AM STILL AROUND. UH, I LIVE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE AND I AM HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AS A CITIZEN AND SUPPORTIVE AGENDA ITEM 64 AND 65. AND I'M ALSO SPEAKING FROM MY EXPERIENCE AS A SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I WASN'T ACTUALLY A CLIENT AT THE SAFE ALLIANCE, BUT I WAS A CLIENT. I HAVE BEEN IN A SHELTER. I HAVE LIVED THIS LIFE AS A YOUNG WOMAN, I WAS FORCED TO LEAVE MY HOME, MY JOB, MY FRIENDS, AND MY COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO PROTECT MYSELF AND MY TWO YOUNG SONS FROM THE MURDEROUS RAGE OF MY EX-HUSBAND. AND I SAY MURDEROUS BECAUSE I WAS BEATEN, STALKED, THREATENED, AND TERRORIZED. A JUDGE IN MY COMMUNITY STATED, HE'S A TICKING TIME BOMB. AND WHEN HE GOES, HE'S TAKING HER WITH HIM. I FINALLY LEFT THE STATE AND WENT WHERE I KNEW NOT A SINGLE PERSON, AND I DID THAT AFTER MY THREE AND A HALF YEAR OLD SON WAS HURT, TRYING TO PROTECT ME FROM HIS FATHER. THIS WAS THE HARDEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE IN MY LIFE. AND ALL I COULD THINK DURING THIS TIME WAS, I HAVE AN EDUCATION, I HAVE A CAR, A STRONG WORK HISTORY. I AM WHITE. I DON'T HAVE ANY CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS. I HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY. AND IF THIS IS SO HARD FOR ME, HOW IN THE WORLD DO WOMEN WITH SO MUCH LESS OPPORTUNITY MAKE IT? AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'VE DEDICATED MY LIFE SINCE THEN TRYING TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT LESSONS THAT I HAVE LEARNED ALONG THE WAY SINCE FLEEING MY HOME WAS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF HOUSING. I HAD MET AND BECOME CLOSE WITH TWO YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAD ALSO FLED ABUSIVE HUSBANDS WITH THEIR TWO CHILDREN EACH. THIS IS JUST IN THE YEAR OF FOLLOWING MY, MY FLIGHT, BUT UNLIKE ME, THESE YOUNG WOMEN HAD NO EDUCATION BEYOND HIGH SCHOOL DEGREES, NO WORK HISTORY. ONE HAD BEEN HORRIFICALLY SEXUALLY ABUSED IN HER FAMILY OF ORIGIN, AND I HONESTLY DID NOT SEE HOW THEY COULD POSSIBLY MAKE IT. THE ODDS WERE STACKED AGAINST THEM. I'M JUST GONNA CLOSE BY SAYING I WAS WRONG. THEY HAD ACCESS TO A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM AND FURTHER SUPPORT AND SERVICES SO THAT THEY COULD GET THEIR LIVES BACK TOGETHER. I WAS WRONG. AND I LEARNED ABOUT THE INDOMITABILITY OF THE HUMAN [03:55:01] SPIRIT WHEN GIVEN OPPORTUNITY AND SUPPORT. PLEASE SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND MS. WHITE, JUST REAL FAST. I JUST WANNA ALSO ADD, I I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THAT SAFE IS DONE, WORKING WITH THE CITY TO TRY AND FIND LOCATIONS SO THAT WE HAVE SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR LEAD TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER SPEAKERS AND, AND MR. KENNY, UH, IN, IN MAKING THIS PART OF THAT COUNTY CONSORTIUM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY FINDING LOCATIONS AND THEY'RE HARD TO FIND IN, IN A HALF DOZEN DIFFERENT PLACES, UH, IN OUR CITY. IT'S PART OF THE FINDING HOME ATX 515 MILLION RAISE THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND HAKA AND NOW COMMUNITY PLAYERS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO. SO I THANK YOU FOR YOURS AND SAFE LEADERSHIP AND THIS IS WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU. BEN THOMPSON, 68 AND 69 WITH ALYSSA HAMMOND ON DECK. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S BEN THOMPSON. I LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO. UH, I AM HERE TO OPPOSE ITEMS 68 AND 69. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S CLEAR THAT SOME VERSION OF THIS PROJECT, OF THIS PROJECT IS GONNA HAPPEN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILT OUT OF ORGANIC, YOU KNOW, LOCALLY SOURCED ADOBE BRICKS WITH A COMMUNITY BUTTERFLY GARDEN ON THE ROOF. UM, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE NEAT, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT AND THAT'S FINE. UM, BUT WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S HOUSING FOR, UH, A LOT OF WEALTHY PEOPLE, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEING DEVELOPED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE PROBABLY DOING EVEN BETTER. UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S FINE. UM, WEALTHY PEOPLE NEED HOUSING TOO. I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE BUILDING HIGH END, UH, HOUSING IN OUR CITY EITHER. HOWEVER, WHEN WE GET HERE, AND, UH, THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD I, THE TAXPAYER WHO, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARDER AND HARDER FOR ME TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS CITY EVERY YEAR, UM, WHEN I'M BEING ASKED TO CHIP IN, THAT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO ME AND, UH, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD FEEL RIGHT TO YOU EITHER. THANK YOU. ALYSSA HAMMOND, ITEM 68 AND 69 WITH MEGAN MEISENBACH ONDECK. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL LEADERS AND MAYOR, MY NAME IS ALISA HAMMOND, AND, UM, I'M HERE TO TALK TO ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON 68 AND 69. I AGREE WITH ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AS AN EQUITY ISSUE, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. UM, AUSTIN HAS DEVELOPED A FANTASTIC CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN AND PRESERVING AND EXPANDING AND RESTORING OUR NATURAL AREAS IS A CORE PART, A CORE STRATEGY OF THAT CLIMATE PLAN. CLIMATE DISRUPTION IS ALREADY HERE AND IT'S HURTING PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND WELLBEING BECAUSE OF THE 1500 YEAR DROUGHT, WE ARE NOW IN THE HEAT WAVES, THE DISRUPTION WITH DEEP FREEZES IN THE WINTER. AND NOW YOU SEE THE IMPACT OF INTENSE FLOODING. SCIENCE SHOWS US, UM, IF PHYSICS SHOWS US THAT THE, THESE CLIMATE EVENTS ARE GOING TO BECOME MORE FREQUENT AND MORE INTENSE. AND ONE OF THE, UM, WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT IS WITH EXPANDING NATURAL SYSTEMS. THE WATERFRONT PROPERTY AT UM, LADYBIRD LAKE IS A UNIQUE ECOSYSTEM AND IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A NON-RENEWABLE RESOURCE LIKE OLD GROWTH FORESTS. ONCE WE DAMAGE THAT ECOSYSTEM, WE AFFECT ONGOING, UM, DEGRADATION OF THE AQUATIC SYSTEM AND IT'S RIGHT THERE NEAR THE BATS. AUSTIN HAS ALSO GOT SO MANY OTHER AREAS OF WILDLIFE GLOBAL, UH, GLOBALLY. BIODIVERSITY IS DECLINING. ANIMAL POPULATIONS HAVE DECLINED 70%. THIS NEWS JUST CAME OUT TODAY SINCE THE SEVENTIES. AND WHEN WE CONSERVE AND RESTORE PARKLAND NATURAL AREAS, IT BRINGS MULTIPLE BENEFITS TO PEOPLE. THERE'S AN AREA OF SCIENCE NOW CALLED BIOPHILIA. BIOPHILIA IS HUMANS INNATE NEED AND CONNECTION FOR NATURE. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT GOOD FEELING WHEN YOU'RE CONNECTED TO NATURE, IT'S GOOD FOR PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND WELLBEING. SO I REALLY WANT YOU TO USE MORE IMAGINATION TO ENVISION HOW WE USE THIS WATERFRONT PROPERTY, SO IT BENEFITS EVERYONE. THANK YOU MEGAN MEISENBACH, 68 AND 69 RICHARD VICTORIAN ONDECK, THANK YOU COUNCIL [04:00:01] MEMBERS AND MAYOR. NORMALIZATION OF PRIVILEGE BY GIVING WAIVERS TAX BREAKS, CHANGING DEFINITIONS IN THE LAND CODE FOR THE PUT ON SOUTH CONGRESS, THE COUNCIL WOULD SUBVERT EQUALITY EQUITY, SUBVERT EQUITY IF VOTING FOR THESE GIFTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT, THE COUNCIL WILL OFFER PRIVILEGE TO THE RICH AND POWERFUL AND THUS HELPING THE RICH TO GET MORE WEALTH AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS IN AUSTIN WHO ARE NOT AS RICH AND POWERFUL TAX BREAKS. VACILLATING DEFINITIONS, VARIANCES IN WAIVERS IN THE LAND CODE, CREATE AN UNEQUAL STANDARD OF JUSTICE. IF VOTING FOR THE PUT, THE COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE THE NORMALIZATION OF PRIVILEGE PRESERVE EQUITY. DO NOT NORMALIZE PRIVILEGE TO USE GOOD GOVERNANCE IS TO VOTE NO ON THE PUT, SAY NO TO LUXURY DEVELOPMENT WITH ALL THESE VARIANCES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. RICHARD VICTOR IN 68 69 WITH MONICA GUZMAN, ONDECK, MONICA GUZMAN, 68 69. SORRY, DIDN'T EXPECT TO COME UP THIS QUICKLY. , UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MARON COUNCIL. I'M MONICA GOMAN, POLICY DIRECTOR AT GO AUSTIN BAMO AUSTIN. BUT THIS AFTERNOON, SPEAKING AS A DISTRICT FOR RESIDENT AND ORGANIZER GAVA WORKS IN NORTH CENTRAL, SOUTHEAST AND SOUTH CENTRAL AUSTIN. WHILE THE STATESMAN PUT IS NOT IN ANY OF THOSE AREAS, THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR DANGEROUS PRECEDENTS, ESPECIALLY WHERE GABA'S WORK IS HAPPENING AND ADJACENT COMMUNITIES IN AUSTIN'S EASTERN CRESCENT PRECEDENTS REGARDING SUBMERGED LAND BEING CONSIDERED PARK LAND IN GREEN SPACE, FAMILIES CANNOT ACCESS PHYSICAL ACT WHEN PARKLAND IS UNDERWATER. SIDEWALKS DO NOT ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. THEY ONLY EXACERBATE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AND THEY DON'T ADDRESS URBAN CANOPY DEFICITS. TERRORS DIVERTING REVENUE FOR COMMUNITY NEEDS, POOLS, LIBRARIES, PARK MAINTENANCE, ET CETERA. TAX SUBSIDIES, ESPECIALLY FOR MULTIMILLION DOLLAR DEVELOPMENTS, AS BETTER KNOWN AS CORPORATE WELFARE, INSUFFICIENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO FOR PUSHING FOR 10% ONSITE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH, NOT A HIGH ENOUGH PERCENTAGE AND NOT SUFFICIENTLY DEEP AFFORDABILITY. THERE ARE MANY BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY MEMBERS WORKING IN OFFICES, HOTELS, AND OTHER PROPERTIES IN AND AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT MUST TRAVEL FROM OUTSIDE THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO AND FROM WORK. MANY OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT A CONNECTED CITY. I MEAN, AND BELIEVE IT'S PART OF OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, THE I AAC, P I A C P LIVING NEAR WORK, BUT LI LACK OF FAMILY FRIENDLY, DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING RUNS COUNTER TO THAT GOAL. CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OFFSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SENDS THE MESSAGE THAT THIS IS NOT FOR YOU. AND I DON'T MEAN YOU, I DON'T MEAN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEHIND THIS DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN PEOPLE LIKE ME, PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THOSE HOTELS, THEY'RE CLEANING THE ROOMS, THEY'RE SERVING THE DRINKS AND UH, THIS IS THE PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPMENT. ADDITIONALLY, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE OFFSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS LOCATED, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR PUSHING VULNERABLE RESIDENTS FARTHER AND FARTHER, FARTHER OUT OF AUSTIN'S URBAN CORE, IF NOT AUSTIN ITSELF. I SUPPORT BILL BUN'S COMMENTS, I OPPOSE THE STATESMAN PUT AND I STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS AND OTHER GROUPS. ALSO OPPOSED. THANK YOU. CRAIG MASER 69 WITH NICOLE NETHER, TENON DECK. HELLO, MY NAME IS CRAIG NASER, DISTRICT SEVEN. I AM THE, UH, CONSERVATION CHAIR OF THE STATE CHAPTER OF THE SIERRA CLUB AND A LONG TIME AUSTIN ENVIRONMENTALIST. AND WHAT I MORE, I COME TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, AND I KNOW ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. I'M NOW RETIRED. I'M A RETIRED MUSICIAN. YOU DON'T END A MUSICIAN'S CAREER USUALLY WITH A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA MONEY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GETS YOU IS, UH, TAX RATES, YOU KNOW, THAT KEEPS GOING UP. AND WE HAVE A STATE THAT DOESN'T HELP US. YOU KNOW, AS A CITY AND ON AND ON, WHEN YOU GIVE BIG DEVELOPERS [04:05:01] TAX BREAKS FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT, YOU MAKE THE ENTIRE CITY LESS AFFORDABLE FOR LANDOWNERS, HOUSE OWNERS AND RENTERS. THAT'S WHAT IT DOES. NOW, WHAT YOU'RE TRY AND DO FOR, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS YOU TRY AND MAKE TRADE OFFS. YOU MAKE TRADE OFFS WITH COMMUNITY BENEFITS. BUT A LOT OF TIMES I HEAR THESE TRADE OFFS, I SEE THESE TRADEOFFS YOU MAKE FOR COMMUNITY BENEFITS. IT DOESN'T BENEFIT A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT REALLY DOESN'T. AND I THINK RATHER THAN GET YOURSELF STUCK IN THAT KIND OF ARGUMENT, UH, IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO JUST FOLLOW THE RULES WE'VE MADE UP. WE'VE MADE UP SOME VERY GOOD RULES. WE'VE SPENT YEARS TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS, ABOUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS, HOW WE WANT THE CITY TO DEVELOP. CAN WE JUST FOLLOW THOSE? YOU KNOW, UH, IN THE HINDU FAITH, THEY SAY THE TRUE ENEMIES OF KRISHNA ARE THOSE PEOPLE WHO GO AROUND TO MAKE THE UNIMPORTANT THINGS IMPORTANT. YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT THAT. WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE. I THINK THAT YOU'RE GIVEN TOO MUCH AWAY IN THIS PUD AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THAT. THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A WHOLE CITY OF PEOPLE TRYING TO LIVE HERE, TRYING TO HAVE LIVES HERE, TRYING TO HAVE GOOD LIVES HERE. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NICOLE NETHERTON 69 WITH WENDY TODD ON DECK. THANK YOU MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME IS NICOLE NETHERTON. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TRAVIS ABAN AND I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF OUR MEMBERS AGAINST THE STATESMAN. PUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE DEVELOPER'S REQUEST TO USE 35% REFLECTIVE GLASS ABOVE 40 FEET AT THE SITE. WE SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER TO O'S PROPOSAL FOR SECTION 25 DASH TWO DASH 7 21 FOR THE USE OF 15% REFLECTIVE GLASS FOR ALL BUILDING GLAZING SYSTEMS FOR THIS PROJECT. INCREASING REFLECTIVITY AT ANY HEIGHT AT THE SITE WILL INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF BIRD BUILDING COLLISIONS, AND WE ARE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF CREATING THE SAFEST POSSIBLE STRUCTURE FOR WILDLIFE FROM THE START. BIRD POPULATIONS WORLDWIDE ARE PLUMMETING AND GLASS COLLISIONS ARE THE NUMBER TWO HUMAN MADE THREAT TO WILD BIRDS. AFTER OUTDOOR CATS, AN ESTIMATED 1 BILLION BIRDS DIE IN COLLISIONS WITH WINDOWS AND NORTH AMERICA ANNUALLY. AND THESE ARE ALL AVOIDABLE DEATHS. BECAUSE AUSTIN IS IN THE CENTRAL MIGRATORY FLYWAY AND BECAUSE THE STATESMAN PUT PROJECT IS SITUATED SO NEAR THE COLORADO RIVER, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE DEVELOPERS MEET OR EXCEED BEST PRACTICES FOR GLASS, REFLEXIVITY, EXTERIOR LIGHTING AND LIGHT TRESPASS. THE LIMIT OF 15% GLASS REFLECTIVITY IS BASED ON DATA FROM THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY AND HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED SUCCESSFULLY IN BUILDING PROJECTS AROUND THE WORLD. TORONTO, NEW YORK, PHILADELPHIA, MINNEAPOLIS, AND PORTLAND ARE AMONG THE GROWING LIST OF CITIES WORKING TO MAKE THEIR SKYLINES SAFER FOR BIRDS WITH INNOVATIVE DESIGN. AND AUSTIN NEEDS TO BE AMONG THEM. GLASS IS A TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE ANCIENT EGYPT, BUT BEING ABLE TO USE IT IN THIS SCALE FOR BUILDINGS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE REALLY ONLY BEEN DOING SINCE THE 1980S. BIRD COLLISIONS ARE A SERIOUS EFFECT OF THIS USE THAT MUST BE PREVENTED. IT IS IN OUR POWER TO MAKE BIRD BUILDING COLLISIONS IN ALMOST ZERO NUMBER IN AUSTIN. BIRDS ARE CONNECTED TO HUMANS IN COMPLEX WAYS THAT EACH OF OUR LIVES DEPEND ON. WE ALREADY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, RESOURCES, AND TECHNOLOGICAL ABILITY TO MAKE THE STATESMAN BUD MORE BIRD FRIENDLY. PLEASE REQUIRE NO MORE THAN 15% REFLECTIVITY FOR THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU, WENDY. TODD, ITEM 69 WITH KATHY MITCH LECK. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR. MAYOR PROTE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, I'M WENDY PRICE TODD, PRESIDENT OF SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN WHICH THE STATESMAN PUT IS LOCATED. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE, WAS A FORMER MEMBER OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD AND PRIOR TO THAT WAS ON THE STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH GROUP THAT CREATED THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION PLAN. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA FIND ANOTHER CITIZEN PUBLIC MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT THIS THAN, UM, OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M HERE TODAY TO REALLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE UNDERSTAND AND TO CLARIFY THAT WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO REDEVELOPMENT, BUT WE EXPECT THE HIGHEST STANDARDS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT. AND FOR, SINCE THIS APPLICATION WAS APPLIED FOR, I CALLED YOUR OFFICES, KNOCKED ON YOUR DOORS, SPOKE TO YOUR STAFF PEOPLE, WRITTEN YOU LETTERS, AND WITH VERY LITTLE RESPONSE, SUBSTANTIVE [04:10:01] RESPONSE. AND HERE WE ARE, WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION AT, OF SECOND HEARING ITEMS AND AMENDMENTS. THAT IS EXCITING AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE TAKING THE TIME. I WANNA ECHO ALL THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS TODAY. I FEEL VERY BOOSTED BY WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU APPRECIATE THIS, BUT WE'VE BEEN CHARACTERIZED IN SOUTH AUSTIN, IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS IN PARTICULAR, WHICH IS ONE OF THE SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS OF SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS. IT ALSO INCLUDES SHERWOOD OAKS, FAIRVIEW PARK, AND EAST RIVERSIDE ALTAR. WE ARE NOT A MONOGAMOUS, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, MONO MONOTONOUS, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. WE'RE NOT ALL THE SAME. WE'RE DIFFERENT. WE, MAYBE WE ARE. UM, SORRY DAVID. UM, WE ARE A VARIETY OF PEOPLE. OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS AT LEAST FIVE LANGUAGES SPOKEN IN THE PRE-K CLASS RIGHT NOW. SO WE ARE WELCOMING PEOPLE WHO ARE NEW TO TOWN. WE ARE NOT ABOUT THE STATUS QUO. WE ARE HERE TO HELP AUSTIN MOVE FORWARD, BUT MOVE FORWARD IN A WAY THAT EMBODIES THE VALUES THAT PUT YOU ALL IN OFFICE. SO PLEASE HELP US TO BE A BETTER CITIZEN. THANK YOU. KATHY MITCHELL, 69. ETHAN SMITH ONDECK. HI, I'M HERE TODAY ON MY OWN BEHALF. UM, AND I'M HERE BECAUSE I JUST WANNA BRIEFLY REMIND EVERYBODY, UM, THIS WAS AN AMAZING BUDGET YEAR AND THE GENERAL REVENUE THAT YOU ALL SPENT ON SOME INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PROJECTS IMPORTANT TO ME, IMPORTANT TO YOUR DISTRICT. UH, MUCH OF THAT CAME IN THE FORM OF NEW MONEY FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING IN WITHOUT REVENUE CAPS. SO I HAVE BEEN ASKING BECAUSE THIS PRO, THESE PROJECTS ARE, THIS IS WAY OUTSIDE MY LANE AS YOU KNOW, I WORK HARD, LOTS OF TIME ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND WOULD CONSIDER THAT TO BE MY LANE AND NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. AS A REMINDER, WE WILL BE COMING FORWARD WITH IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE FORENSICS LABS BECAUSE DPS IS NOT GOING TO KEEP TAKING ALL OF OUR BUSINESS FOREVER. AND THEY'VE ALREADY SAID THAT THEY NEED TO SEE US COME FORWARD WITH A PLAN. UM, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT I SPEND MY TIME ON. BUT IF I COME FORWARD IN A BUDGET CYCLE NEEDING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FORENSICS LAB, AND THERE ISN'T ENOUGH GENERAL REVENUE BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FALLEN FOR THE SAME OLD TRICK THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR SO LONG, WHICH IS DIVERTING MONEY THAT WOULD COME INTO GENERAL REVENUE, INTO SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND JUST SWEEPING IT OFF THE TABLE BEFORE IT'S EVEN BORN. TO ME, THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE. I HAVE THAT CONCERN ABOUT THIS PROJECT. AND AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, WHO'VE BEEN AROUND AS LONG AS ME, I'VE HAD THAT CONCERN ABOUT PROJECTS IN THE PAST. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE COME OPPOSED TO A TIF, WHICH WHAT THEY USED TO BE CALLED, AND NOW THEY'RE AURS. UM, BUT I, I JUST WANT US TO REMEMBER HOW IMPORTANT THAT REVENUE IS. THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT CAPPED IS WHAT YOU ALL HAD TO SPEND ESSENTIALLY IN THIS LAST ROUND. AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE DETAILS ARE AND YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT THOSE DETAILS ARE BEFORE YOU VOTE TO, TO CREATE A FINANCING THAT IS ONLY GOING TO DRAW MONEY BACK INTO THIS DISTRICT. MS. MITCHELL, THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE MS. MITCHELL. KATHY, THANK YOU. UH, IT IS A REAL IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING, WHICH IS WHEN YOU DO IT TERMS LIKE THIS, DOES IT DIVERT MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND? AND I THINK THERE WAS A DAY WHEN THAT HAPPENED, BUT AS ED VINO EXPLAINED TO THE COUNCIL WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BEING LAID OUT, THE LAW SUCH NOW THAT REVENUE RAISED IN AUR HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT CAP. SO CREATING THE TUR DOES NOT IMPACT THE, UH, DOLLARS THAT CAN BE RAISED REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND IF YOU REACH OUT TO, TO, TO MICHAEL IN MY OFFICE, WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU THAT INFORMATION AND DATA FOR MR. VI. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND I HAVE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO MICHAEL AND I'M HOPING THAT HE, AND I'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME NUMBERS. GREAT. BUT THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ETHAN SMITH, ITEM 69, JEFFREY DICKERSON, ITEM 70. [04:15:17] NO. CAN YOU BRING, JUST TO INFORM MEMBERS, I AM HEARING IMPAIRED FOR CO WITH THEIR IMPLANTS. SO IF YOU ASK ME QUESTIONS, THAT'S WHY CAPTIONS ON THE SCREEN ARE HERE. WE'RE WORKING ON BRINGING UP A PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW WHILE SHE'S BRINGING UP THE PRESENTATION. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL. MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TIM, COUNCIL MEMBER FOR YOUR SERVICE. IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL, MY NEIGHBORS. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CALL A SHOUT OUT TO THE HARD WORK OF THE VOLUNTEERS OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. WELL, THEY'RE BRINGING UP THE PRESENTATION. WELL, MY NEIGHBORS HAVE COVERED QUITE ADEQUATELY ALL THE POINTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE MADE. SO I WILL NOT, I AM NOT GOING TO REHASH THOSE POINTS IN THE SLIDE. INSTEAD, I'LL CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND SAY A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. SO MAYBE I CAN GET 3000 WORDS IN SHOWING YOU PICTURES. IT'S IN PART OF TOBACCO THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED BY WENDY PDF FILE. I'VE SENT IT TO HER THREE TIMES, . ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT GONNA WASTE ANYBODY'S TIME SINCE THEY CAN PULL UP WHAT I HAVE. ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I WOULD LIKE COUNSEL TO VOTE ON ITEM 70 SF THREE ZONING, PUT A CONDITION OVERLAY OF FOUR WITH ALL THE ARGUMENTS AND STATEMENTS SUGGESTED BY MY NEIGHBORS. I APOLOGIZE FOR WASTING YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. SIR, YES SIR. CERTAINLY NOT A WASTE OF TIME AT ALL. UH, AND EVEN WITHOUT THE PRESENTATION, YOU STILL CAN SPEAK TO US OR STATE THE, THE, THE VIEW OR THE OPINION OR THE, THE WISH IF YOU'D LIKE TO. I THINK YOU ALL HAVE THE PRESENTATION IN THE BACKUP, SO I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE SHOWN IT IN GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT SINCE I CANNOT DO SO, I'M LEFT. IF THEY, IF THEY FIND IT, WE'LL, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK. YEAH, THANK YOU. WE HAVE THREE LAST MINUTE CALLINS. WE CAN TAKE THOSE AND WORK ON THAT. OKAY. WE'VE GOT FRED LEWIS ON ITEM 69. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL. UH, I'M SPEAKING AGAINST ITEM 68 69 AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY WRITTEN. I AM ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GONNA TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND I ASK YOU TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AT WORK SESSION DIGGING INTO THE DETAILS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF LACK OF CLARITY. ONE THING IS CLEAR, THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO GET MASSIVE ENTITLEMENTS MUCH MORE THAN THEY WOULD'VE GOTTEN IN 2016, MUCH MORE THAN UNDER CURRENT RULES. BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS ARE [04:20:01] AS GOOD AS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE IN THEIR CURRENT LAW, AND IN FACT, THEY'RE WORSE. AND THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE A SPECIAL DEAL AND NOT A FAIR DEAL. THE ISSUES THAT CONCERN ME THE MOST IS, FIRST YOU ARE REDUCING THE WATER QUALITY OF OUR CROWN JEWEL LADY BIRD LAKE. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER IN THE SETBACK. THERE'S A DECREASE IN THE SETBACK. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN USES IN THE SHORELINE AREA. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT MAKES THE PARK AREA AND THE AREA FOR THE PUBLIC SUPERIOR. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THE TRUST OF THE COX FAMILY ARE WORTH $41 BILLION. WE HAVE TO MAKE REDUCTIONS IN OUR WATER QUALITY. THE SECOND THING IS WE HAVE REDUCED PARK LAND AND IT IS VERY UNCLEAR HOW MUCH CONTROL YOU'VE TURNED OVER TO THE DEVELOPER ON OUR PARK LAND. IF IT'S OUR PARK LAND THAT'S DEDICATED, IT SHOULD BE ALL OF WHAT WE'RE WE'RE ENTITLED TO GET, GET NOT LEFT UNDER THE CURRENT LAW AND WE SHOULD MAINTAIN COMPLETE CONTROL. ONE OF THE DISTURBING THINGS IS THAT YOU NOT HAVING BACKUP THE PARKS BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS AGAINST WHAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE REGARDING PARKS IN WHICH YOUR STAFF IS BOUGHT THE ENTIRE WAY. YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT PARKLAND AND WATER QUALITY. AND LAST, IT IS VERY UNCLEAR IN REFERENCES TO OTHER DOCUMENTS, HOW MANY FEE WAIVERS, COST PRODUCTIONS AND OTHER THINGS ARE EMBEDDEDNESS. AND BEFORE YOU TAKE AWAY TAX DOLLARS FROM A PUBLIC THAT COULD GO TO OTHER THINGS OR WILL TAKE AWAY OR REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TAXES, WE SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY YOU ARE GIVING TO A 41 BILLION OWNER. THANK YOU. SO YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. SO I ASKED SCRU, I THINK CAREFULLY. THANK YOU KAREN FERNANDEZ, ITEM 70. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME FINISH MY THOUGHT. I BELIEVE I, UM, WAS CUT OFF WHEN I WAS DISCUSSING THE AL FLOODING IN SOUTH FARGO CREEK AND, AND HOW WE CAME TO THE NUMBER OF FOUR UNITS. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOUR SUPPORT OF THE ZAP RECOMMENDATION WILL GO FAR IN RESTORING THE RESIDENT'S FAITH IN THE CITY COUNCIL. MANY FEEL THAT THEIR VOICES HAVE BEEN DISREGARDED WHILE THAT OF THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN AMPLIFIED, WE HAVE WRITTEN AND CALLED ALL THE MEMBERS' OFFICES WITH NO RESPONSE. SAVE ONE. I WILL SAVE TIME TODAY AND NOT RECOUNT MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER THAT ASK THAT YOU READ MY CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING THE PROCESS. AND LASTLY, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO WENDY ROSE. SHE IS A BRIGHT LIGHT AT THE CITY. SHE HAS ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION QUICKLY AND HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AS THIS IS MY FIRST ZONING CASE AS THE NEW PRESIDENT OF MATTHEW'S LANE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS CASE, I WILL BE MORE THAN WILLING TO ANSWER THEM. SARAH, MY NAME IS SARAH LANTA, DISTRICT FIVE, AND I'M A LICENSED MASTER SOCIAL WORKER, PROUD AUSTIN NIGHT BORN AND RAISED. AND OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF LUXURY APARTMENTS, HOTELS, AND SHOPS PROPOSED BY ITEMS 68 AND 69 THAT ARE PLANNED FOR THE WATERFRONT OF THE COLORADO RIVER, ALSO KNOWN AS LADY BIRD OR TOWN LAKE. WE ARE FACING A CLIMATE CRISIS IN WHICH OUR RIVERS ARE DRYING UP OR REACHING HISTORICALLY LOW LEVELS NOT WITNESSED IN HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF YEARS. NOW IT'S THE TIME TO PROTECT OUR WATERWAYS FROM FURTHER POLLUTION THAT COULD, COULD JEOPARDIZE OUR WATER, WILDLIFE ENVIRONMENT, AND COMMUNITIES WELLBEING. WATER IS LIFE. WATER IS SACRED. OUR RIVER IS CURRENTLY SUFFERING FROM LOW LEVEL STAGNANT WATER DYING WILDLIFE SUCH AS VISION AMPHIBIANS AND BLOOMS AT THE TOXIC SIANO BACTERIA PRESENT AND BLUE GREEN ALGAE, WHICH IS CAUSED BY FERTILIZER RUNOFF AND OTHER CHEMICALS USED BY COMMERCIAL PROJECTS SUCH AS THE ONES PROPOSED BY THE REZONING APPLICATION THAT THE COX FAMILY WANTS WITH THE STATESMAN PUT IN ITEM 68 AND 69, THE CITY OF AUSTIN DRAWS ARE DRINKING WATER FROM THE COLORADO RIVER, YET WE KNOW THE LEVELS OF BLUE GREEN ALGAE ARE DANGEROUS DUE TO PEOPLE'S PETS REPEATEDLY DYING FROM SWIMMING OR DRINKING FROM THE RIVER. WHY WOULD OUR COMMUNITIES WANT ANY FURTHER ENDANGERING OF THE VERY WATER THAT WE RELY ON TO SURVIVE AS A PADDLE BORDER WHO FREQUENTLY SEES THE STATE OF THE COLORADO RIVER? I'VE BEEN WITNESSING THE DEGRADATION OF WATER QUALITY AS EVIDENCE BY DEAD FISH [04:25:01] FLOATING MATS, BLUEGREEN, ALGAE, AND TERRIBLE ODORS THAT REMIND ME OF BRA SEWAGE AND IS SO UNLIKE ANYTHING THAT I EVER WITNESSED GROWING UP HERE. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ALLOW FOR LUXURY DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR ON THE RIVER BANKS, WHICH WOULD ENCROACH OVER AN ACRE OF THE RIVER AND WOULD REQUIRE VARIANCE FROM OUR ALREADY LOW QUALITY, LOW WATER QUALITY PROTECTION STANDARD. YOUR SET'S A DANGEROUS PRESIDENT FOR FUTURE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE COLORADO RIVER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE'RE GONNA CALL JEFFREY DICKERSON AGAIN. WE MIGHT HAVE THAT PRESENTATION READY. OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBERS MAYOR, MAYOR PRO. LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN. LET'S SEE IF I CAN SPEAK 3000 WORDS IN LESS THAN TWO MINUTES. PRUDE ZONING, PRUDENT DEVELOPMENT. LET'S LOUD PLEASE. THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU IS TO SHOW YOU THE LOCATION AND WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS OCCURRING. LET'S THERE, AS YOU CAN SEE BY LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE, WE HAVE A 90 DEGREE BLIND TUR CURVE. THE DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING ON NUMBER THREE AT NUMBER THREE. IT'S 20 FEET, SIX INCHES AT NUMBER ONE IS 19 FEET. THAT'S THE SIZE OF THAT ROAD NUMBERS. YOU SAY, WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? THAT SLIDE HERE IS AN IMAGE OF ONE UNIT THIS PAST SUNDAY OF MORE THAN 14 CARS PARKED ON ONE OF THOSE ROADS. THIS IS A RURAL ROLE, AS MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID. ONE AND A HALF CAR MEANS WHAT? THE ASK IS FOR EIGHT UNITS TO BE BUILT JUST BEYOND THAT CONE YOU SEE THERE. NOW, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT THERE WILL BE 18 CARS FOR THE EIGHT UNITS. WE DIDN'T EXPECT THAT FOR THIS. THIS IS ONE HOUSE, ONE UNIT, 15 CARS. I KNOW COUNCIL AND Z AND BOARD OF S LOOK AT PROPERTIES IN THEMSELVES. BUT AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH COMMITTEE, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PRESENT IT FROM OUR VIEWPOINT. THAT'S SLIDE PLEASE. THE ONES MARKED IN YELLOW AND RED. UH, WERE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS GOING UP. THE ONES THAT ARE NOT MARKED ARE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS. LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF UNITS, LOOK AT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS OCCURRING IN THIS AREA. THAT BLIND CURVE IS AROUND 37 AND 37 OF THE PROPOSAL. I APOLOGIZE FOR GOING OVER AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ZENOBIA JOSEPH SPEAKING. OKAY, MS. JOSEPH AND THE MANAGER, WE'RE GONNA LOSE SOMEBODY ON THE DIAS WHO WANTED TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ROSS AND ENERGY. SO WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THIS LAST SPEAKER, WE'LL PROBABLY GO TO US ENERGY, SEE IF WE CAN GET TO A QUICK VOTE, LET PEOPLE EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT OPPOSITION IF THEY WANT TO, AND THEN WE'LL GET RIGHT BACK TO HERE. JOSEPH. THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, ZIA JOSEPH. I REGISTERED FOR 57, BUT I ALSO HAVE COMMENTS ON 68 AND 69 AS IT RELATES TO 57. THAT'S, UH, 1 2, 1 2, 1 NORTH IH 35. IT'S A POSTPONE. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I WOULD ASK YOU TO INDEFINITELY POSTPONE THAT ITEM. IT'S 0.7 MILES FROM ROUTE 3 92, WHICH, UH, IS ON YAGER LANE. YAGER LANE, JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE IS WHERE I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE 15 YEAR OLDS THAT WERE KILLED. UH, THERE IS SIDEWALKS IN THAT AREA NOW, BUT THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET ANYBODY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING POSTPONED. AND SO I OPPOSE YOU PUTTING, UH, CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY ON THE SERVICE ROAD BY 35. I JUST WANNA SAY AS IT RELATES TO 68 AND 69, MAYOR, I KNOW YOU, UH, SAID I MISQUOTED YOU WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE APRIL 5TH, 2022 WORK SESSION AS IT RELATES TO A CONCENTRATION. I CALL IT A POVERTY, YOU CALL IT A CRITICAL MASS. AND SO I'M JUST GONNA READ THAT QUOTE AS IT RELATES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S SEGREGATION, BUT YOU COUCHED IT IN A NICE [04:30:01] WAY. QUOTE, THE QUESTION I HAVE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE MOST EXPENSIVE LOCATIONS IN OUR CITY IS THAT I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THAT'S THE WAY TO HELP THE GREATEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND TO PUT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THERE'S A CRITICAL MASS OF OTHERS THAT ARE SHARING A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU RESPECTFULLY THAT, UH, ECHO DID A REPORT JULY 1ST, 2022. AND AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE SIX TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE HOMELESS THAN THEIR WHITE COUNTERPARTS. AND SO I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING A CRITICAL MASS OF LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE OR PEOPLE IN THE SAME SITUATION IN AN AREA THAT SEGREGATION MAYOR RESPECTFULLY, UH, AND IT WOULD VIOLATE, UH, THE FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968. AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO INTEGRATE, UH, THE PUT AS OPPOSED TO SEGREGATING IT. AND LET ME JUST CLOSE BY SAYING I'M HERE IN PERSON TODAY BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST THE REMOTE PROCESS ANYMORE. WHEN I TRIED TO CALL REMOTELY BEFORE, UH, THE STAFF DIDN'T CALL ME BACK. I WAS ON THE LINE. I TRIED TO CONTACT COUNCIL MEMBER TOK AND THE THE CLERK'S OFFICE. BUT TODAY YOU'VE HAD LATE CALLERS COME IN. UM, YOU HAD MR. BUNCH EARLIER THAT YOU CALLED OUT. IT'S VIEWPOINT DISCRIMINATION. AND SO I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE AND WE CAN TALK OFFLINE, BUT THAT THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT ONE MINUTE OR TWO MINUTE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. THERE REALLY JUST NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING CONCRETE SO THAT WE'RE NOT DISENFRANCHISED. AND I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO GO OVER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GO LET THEY ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THAT CONCLUDES ALL SPEAKERS. OKAY, COLLEAGUES, ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP FOR SPEAKING THAT WE DIDN'T GET TO? GREAT MANAGER. LET'S [49. Conduct a public hearing and consider an ordinance amending Ordinance No. 20220817-005 to set the Fiscal Year 2022-23 Power Supply Adjustments, Community Benefit Charges, and 49. Regulatory Charges for Austin Energy, and make corresponding amendments to the Austin Energy Fiscal Year 2022-23 operating budget in Ordinance No. 20220817-004] GO TO AUSTIN ENERGY. UM, I THINK THE, UH, ISSUE IN FRONT OF US, UH, HERE NOW IS THE, UH, UM, PSA. UM, SOMEONE WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, ON THE PSA COUNCIL POOL. UM, LET ME JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT IN ADVANCE AND MAKE AN A MOTION IF THAT'S OKAY. UM, YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS IN YOUR BACKUP OPTION. ONE IS TO, UH, SORRY, ARE YOU GONNA WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO, TO DO THE OPTION TWO A? WHY DON'T YOU MAKE THE MOTION THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU TO SPEAK. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION TWO, WHICH IS THE THREE YEAR RECOVERY. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN SECOND SAID MOTION. I'M SORRY. OH, IT'S, THAT'S OKAY. I, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE IN THE BACKUP FROM STAFF BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEPARATE OUT THE OPTION ONE FROM THE OPTION TWO. UM, BUT THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME LANGUAGE IN BOTH OF THE OPTIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE RECOVERY PERIOD. OPTION ONE IS A ONE YEAR OF RECOVERY. OPTION TWO IS THE THREE YEAR RECOVERY. BOTH INCLUDE THE PLUS OR MINUS 5% TRIGGER LANGUAGE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENT THAT'S IN BOTH OF THE TARIFF DOCUMENTS. UH, SO THAT'S A GIVEN NO MATTER WHICH OPTION WE GO WITH. UM, AND THEN THE MAYOR AND I HAVE A MOTION, AND THE MAYOR HAS A SECOND MOTION, UM, THAT I, I GUESS YOU'LL TAKE UP MAYOR AND, UM, WITH, AND THEN I HAVE A COMMENT ON YOUR SECOND MOTION TO MAKE AT THAT POINT. OKAY. BUT THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TWO, THE MOTION RIGHT NOW IS OPTION TWO A. AND I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. UH, MANAGER, UH, YOU'VE INDICATED TO ME, I, I'M CONCERNED IS I THINK A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE ABOUT THE INCREASING THE PSA NOW KNOWING THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO INCREASE THE BASE RATE. UH, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONSIDER AS I LOOK AT THE PSA INCREASE IS WHAT THE OVERALL IS GOING TO BE. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT IT WAS ALREADY YOUR INTENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED WITH RESPECT TO THE INCREASED GENERAL FUND, UH, AND MAKE THAT PART OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING IN DECEMBER. AND IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, THEN I DON'T NEED TO BRING THE SECOND ONE OF MY TWO THINGS AT ALL. IS THAT, DO I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY? YES, YOU DO, UH, MAYOR, AND THAT IS THE INTENT, I BELIEVE, OF YOUR MOTION STREET NUMBER TWO, AND WE WILL BE DOING THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE HAD ON TUESDAY AND CERTAINLY PART OF OUR INTENTION GOING FORWARD. SO TO THAT END, THEN, I'M NOT GONNA BRING UP THE SECOND ONE, BUT THE FIRST ONE, UH, I THINK, UM, UM, IS, IS STILL PROPER. SO I WOULD MOVE THE, WHAT HAS BEEN HANDED OUT IS, UH, MAYOR ADLER AND COUNCIL POOL MOTION NUMBER ONE V3. SO OUR SECOND TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER POOL SECOND THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT DIRECTION? I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO AUSTIN, THE ENERGY AND STAFF, CORRECT. [04:35:02] OKAY. WITHOUT OBJECTION THEN. ACTUALLY, MAYOR, I'M JUST GO AHEAD NOW THAT IT'S ALL IN ONE. I NEED TO JUST THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE. YEAH, I'M GONNA REGISTER MY OBJECTION TO C TO B. OKAY. ONE C. OKAY. WE'LL NOTE THAT IN THE RECORD. ANY OTHER OBJECTION? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A VOTE ON B? I'LL JUST REGISTER MY OBJECTION. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, AND I WANT TO THANK AUSTIN ENERGY FOR WORKING ON THE AMENDMENT. I THINK THAT 5% IS REALLY A VERY EFFECTIVE STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, MAYOR PROAM, UM, I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION. I HAVE A REQUEST OF STAFF. UM, I BELIEVE ON TUESDAY WE HAD ASKED FOR SOME DIFFERENT GRAPHICS AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE EVER GOT THOSE GRAPHICS, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DOING THE BASE RATE RIGHT NOW. AND IF WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS HOW MUCH THIS CHANGE MEANS, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, THE NUMBERS FOR THAT. SO I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WE WERE TALKING BEFORE IT WAS 1755, SO BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT, JUST TO CLOSE THE LOOP. YEAH. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THAT DIRECTION IS ADDED INTO THE BASE MOTION. YEAH, I'M SORRY. UM, SO, SO, SO MS. SERGEANT, IF YOU COULD TELL US WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS. SO WHEN WE TALKED ON TUESDAY UNDER THE STAFF'S PROPOSAL, IT WAS 1755 FOR, UM, THE PSA PLUS THE 2 45 AND THE REGULATORY CHARGE, I'M ASSUMING THE REGULATORY CHARGE CHANGE DOESN'T CHANGE ANY. UM, WHAT IS THAT 1755 COME DOWN TO DOING THE GRADUAL APPROACH? IT'S ABOUT A $5 REDUCTION. SO FROM 1755 MINUS $5 AROUND $12 AND 55 CENTS, BUT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER. OKAY. CAN YOU GET US THOSE EXACT NUMBER? SO WHEN WE DO TAKE A VOTE AND FOLLOW UP AND WE WERE TRYING TO EXPLAIN THIS TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, WE CAN HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE NUMBERS ON THAT. AND THEN ALSO SOME KIND OF, UM, CHART THAT ONLY HAS THE PSA KIND OF PORTION. UM, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT INCLUDES THE RATE CHANGE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T VOTED FOR. UM, AND THE PSA TOGETHER, WE CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP AND GET THAT TO YOU. THAT, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO WAIT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT I HAVE SOME OTHER REMARKS WHEN APPROPRIATE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IN FRONT OF US NOW. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTEZ. THANK YOU COLLEAGUES. AS I SHARED AT OUR, UH, WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY, I CANNOT IN GOOD FAITH, BUT YES, ON THIS INCREASE FOR THE PSA, UH, TODAY, UM, KNOWING THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE ON MY COMMUNITY IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN. YOU KNOW, I HELD A BUDGET TOWN HALL EARLIER, EARLIER THIS SUMMER, AND I WAS THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX PORTION BY 50 BUCKS ROUGHLY. AND, UH, AND, AND TALK ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WERE MAKING WITH THE BUDGET. UH, BUT THE COMMON THEME I HEARD BACK FROM MY COMMUNITY WAS THE AMOUNT OF INCREASES WE HAVE WITH OUR FEES. AND SO KNOWING THAT THIS FEE WOULD IMPACT MY COMMUNITY, KNOWING THAT FOR FAMILIES IN SOUTHEAST WHO MANY ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, WHO ARE DEALING WITH RISING RENT INFLATION, UM, A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE GONE UP, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING TODAY'S, UH, PROPOSAL. UM, AND SO WITH THAT, I WANTED TO SHARE MY COMMENTS ON, ON THE PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCIL ELLIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE, UM, SIMILAR REMARKS TO COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTES. I'VE, I'VE APPRECIATED HAVING TIME TO CIRCLE BACK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTAND THE, THE IMPACTS THAT THIS MIGHT HAVE ON FAMILY BUDGETS. AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON BUSINESS BUDGETS, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE COSTS ARE NOT PASSED DOWN TO THE CONSUMERS AS WE KNOW OFTENTIMES HAPPEN. SO, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET AHEAD OF THIS AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE RESPONSIVENESS AND REFLECTIVITY INTO HOW THESE FEES ARE ASSESSED WHEN THEY'RE ASSESSED AND, AND HOW WE GET THE WORD OUT. UM, BUT FOR TODAY, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE INCREASE IN THE PSA. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER TOPO? YEAH, I, I, UH, WANTED TO SPEAK TO WHY I AM GONNA BE SUPPORTING THIS. I'M GOING TO WORK MIGHTILY, UM, AS WE MOVE INTO THE, THE RATE PROPOSAL CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK THE, THE RATE PROPOSAL NEEDS WORK, I THINK IT WOULD IMPACT OUR FAMILIES VERY DRAMATICALLY. AND, AND AT THE MOMENT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SUPPORT [04:40:01] THE RATE PROPOSAL THAT AUSTIN ENERGY HAS BROUGHT FORWARD. WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY IS THE POWER SUPPLY ADJUSTMENT. AND THESE ARE MONIES THAT AUSTIN ENERGY HAS ALREADY, SUP HAS ALREADY SPENT TO PROVIDE US WITH THE ELECTRICITY THAT, THAT ALL OF US WITHIN THIS SERVICE AREA HAVE, HAVE USED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. I THINK IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CHANGE HOW THAT INFORMATION GETS CAPTURED BY AUSTIN ENERGY SO THAT WE CAN ADJUST MORE QUICKLY. UM, IF THE EXPENSES GO UP AS THEY WERE, AS THEY DID DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME, AUSTIN ENERGY CAN BE MORE NIMBLE AND CAN IMMEDIATELY ADJUST FOR IT SO THAT OUR RATE PAYERS DON'T GET HIT WITH A HIGHER BILL AT THE END OF THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'RE MAKING IN TERMS OF, UM, AMENDING THE TARIFF AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A MORE CONSTANT CHECKIN WILL HELP, WILL HELP GOING FORWARD. BUT TO ME, THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T REALLY OPTIONAL. WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY EXPENDED THE, YOUR, YOU KNOW, PUBLICLY OWNED UTILITY HAS ALREADY EXPENDED THESE DOLLARS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ELECTRICITY. AND REALLY THE ONLY OPTION, AS I SEE IT BEFORE US TODAY, IS WHETHER TO DO IT ON A ONE YEAR PERIOD TO RECOLLECT THAT ON A ONE YEAR PERIOD OR ON A THREE YEAR PERIOD. SO IT IS, IT IS A REGRETTABLE, UM, YES VOTE TODAY, BUT IT IS, BUT I AM GONNA BE VOTING YES ON IT, RIGHT? PRO 10. THANK YOU. UM, TODAY WE'RE FACED WITH A HARD CHOICE. WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE SOMETIMES COMPETING YET EQUALLY IMPORTANT PRIORITIES OF MAINTAINING THE FISCAL HEALTH OF OUR UTILITY, INCENTIVIZING CONSERVATION IN THE MIDST OF OUR CLIMATE CRISIS, AND MITIGATING THE REAL ECONOMIC BURDENS THAT AUSTIN FAMILIES ARE GRAPPLING WITH. IT'S ATTENTION THAT WE WILL HAVE TO BALANCE IN THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PATH THROUGH CHARGES THAT WE'RE HAVING TODAY, AS WELL AS IN THE ONGOING BASE RATE REVIEW PROCESS. WE ARE POISED TO APPROVE INCREASES THAT ARE PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY EXTERNAL MARKET FACTORS BEYOND OUR CONTROL. AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, WE ARE NOT THE ONLY UTILITY IN TEXAS GRAPPLING WITH THESE, THIS DECISION. WE ARE UNIQUE, HOWEVER, IN THAT WE ARE A UTILITY OWNED BY THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO THE COMPLEX ENERGY PROBLEMS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND I KNOW IN THIS COMPLICATED CONVERSATION, IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO LOSE THE FACT THAT AUSTIN ENERGY HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, UM, IN MITIGATING THE IMPACT OF THESE RISE OF PRICES THROUGH THE WORK THAT WE DO WITH OUR GENERATION AND OUR POWER PURCHASES, AS WELL AS, UM, THE WORK THAT WE DO WITH OUR, WITH OUR HEDGING. UM, WE WERE THE ONLY UTILITY, AS I RECALL WHO DID NOT GET DOWNGRADED AFTER STORM URI BECAUSE OF HOW, UM, WE WEATHERED THAT STORM. UM, SO I WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO THE AUSTIN ENERGY STAFF, UM, FOR MEETING WITH ME AND MY COLLEAGUES AND WALKING US THROUGH THE FIGURES. I KNOW EACH OF US SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH YOU MAKING SURE THAT THIS DIFFICULT DECISION WAS ONE THAT WE FELT LIKE WE COULD MAKE, UM, NO MATTER THE DECISION WE MAKE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO TODAY. AND I APPRECIATE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER. COOL, PUTTING FORWARD OPTION TWO. WE KNOW THAT THE BILLS ARE GONNA GO UP AND FOR NONE OF US WHO ARE TAKING THE STEP TO VOTE FOR THIS, IS THIS AN EASY DECISION? I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE STICKER SHOCK MANY FAMILIES WILL EXPERIENCE, BUT I BELIEVE THE STICKER SHOCK WILL BE GREATER IF WE LET OUR UTILITY NOT BE, UM, FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE. I ALSO SUPPORT, UM, THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE ARE MAKING TODAY FOR OUR POWER SUPPLY ADJUSTMENT. AND WHEN WE, UM, ADJUST THAT SO THAT WE DON'T GET IN A SIMILAR SITUATION, UM, IF THERE IS MORE VOLATILITY IN IN THE MARKET, UM, TO ME, THIS IS NOT AN OPTIONAL VOTE. UM, AND TODAY I WILL BE SUPPORTING OPTION TWO WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS FOR PSA AS WELL AS THE AMENDMENTS, UM, THAT MAYOR ADLER COUNCIL MEMBER POOL HAVE PUT FORWARD, WHICH SET US ON A PATH THAT DOESN'T FINISH OUR WORK WITH RESPECT TO THE POLICY CHANGES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO, TO, TO STEM THE BLEED TODAY SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY AND DON'T COST OUR TAXPAYERS MORE WHILE SETTING UP THE STAGE FOR US TO RESPONSIBLY, UM, WORK WITH AUSTIN ENERGY TO ADJUST, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE OUR RATES, UM, NEED TO GO. UM, I INTEND, AS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, TOVO MENTIONED TO LOOK AT THE RATE REVIEW PROCESS WITH A HIGH LEVEL OF SCRUTINY. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT IS THE BEST OUTCOME FOR AUSTINITES AS WELL AS FOR OUR PUBLICLY OWNED UTILITY AND OUR PLANET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE ABOUT AGAINST OUR KITCHEN? UM, I WANT TO ALSO, UH, THANK, UH, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, UH, FOR, UH, THE MOTION [04:45:01] THEY HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD. I THINK IT, UM, IT ASKS FOR SOME WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN, UH, WORK TOWARDS MITIGATING THE IMPACT OF STICKER SHOP ON PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE. AND, UM, AND I THINK IT TAKES, AND I THINK THE MOTION TAKES THE, THE BEST OPTION THAT WE HAVE AT, AT THE MOMENT, UM, TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S BY SPREADING OUT THE COST OVER THREE YEARS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE AN OPTION TO TAKE NO ACTION, AND I'M NOT HEARING OTHER PROPOSALS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO CONSIDER, UM, ANY, ANY LESS OF AN IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WE'VE DIS DISCUSSED. HOW CAN WE DO THAT? I THINK WE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US CARES ABOUT THE IMPACT, UM, ON OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF COST. UM, I WILL JOIN MY COLLEAGUES AS, UM, MAYOR PRO TIM AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO HAVE SAID IN TERMS OF EXAMINING VERY CLOSELY THE RATE CASE TO SEE WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE THERE TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT. BUT AT THIS POINT TO, TO, WE MUST TAKE ACTION AND WE MUST TAKE RESPONSIBLE ACTION WITH REGARD TO AUSTIN ENERGY. AND SO, UH, I AM PREPARED AT, ALTHOUGH I DON'T LIKE THIS ANYMORE THAN ANYONE ELSE DOES, BUT I AM PREPARED TO MAKE THE, UM, THE VOTE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE. GUYS, YOU, I THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS REALLY, UH, UH, A DIFFICULT DECISION. UH, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE DO OUR BUSINESS AND OUR, UH, WE, UH, GUESS HOW MUCH ENERGY POWER WE'RE GONNA USE, AND THEN WE SET A FEED ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE 12 MONTHS SO YOU WON'T GET A BIG SPIKE ON YOUR BILL. AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE WRONG WAY OF DOING IT, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME OF US SAY, WHY DON'T WE JUST BUILD THEM, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, WHAT ENERGY THEY USE AT THE TIME AND THE PRICE AND THE COST. AND YOU WOULD, WILL BE GETTING ONE BIG HUGE BILL DURING THE SUMMER AND THEN YOU'LL GET LOW BILLS DURING THE FALL. UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRY TO EVEN IT OUT SO THAT IT WON'T BE A BIG SHOCK TO PEOPLE WHO USES MORE ENERGY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE DID IT THAT WAY. THERE WOULD BE A, A CONSERVATION PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONSERVE OR WOULD HAVE TO CONSERVE MORE ENERGY AND NOT USE AIR CONDITION DURING THE SUMMER. BUT I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT, UH, IN THE PAST WE DECIDED THAT TO GO FORWARD THAT WAY. AND, UH, WE JUST ANTICIPATE THE, THE, UH, HOT SUMMER AND THE, UH, WAR IN UK WITH A HIGH PRICE OF NATURAL GAS GOING UP. BUT I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION TO ASK OUR STAFF. IS THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOLAR, THE LOW INCOME SOLAR THERE IN THE GO VALLEY AREA, ARE THEY GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS? I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FEEL OF, OF LOW, UH, SOLAR THERE FEEL OF, FOR OUR LOW INCOME AND THE ONES THAT ARE INVESTED INTO THAT, THAT SOLAR FIELD THERE. COUNCIL MEMBER RENT. THANK YOU, JACKIE, SERGEANT, GENERAL MANAGER. UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE CHALLENGE OF THIS, UM, DECISION, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO IT. AND I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT AND WHERE WE HAVE HALF OF THAT THAT IS DEDICATED TO OUR LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS, THEY GET A DISCOUNTED RATE FOR THAT. THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT IMPACT AS A RESULT OF THE CHANGE IN THE PSA, BUT IT WILL STILL BE DISCOUNTED AS COMPARED TO WHAT OTHER CUSTOMERS ARE PAYING. OKAY? SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL GO GET THE DISCOUNTS, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GET A DISCOUNT, AND THAT'S INCLUDING EVERYONE THAT'S ON THAT PROGRAM, THAT THAT'S INCLUDING EVERYONE THAT'S IN THE LOW INCOME. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GET THE DISCOUNT, OKAY? THE LOW INCOME ARE THE CAP CUSTOMERS THAT ARE SIGNED UP FOR THAT PROGRAM. THANK YOU. BET. THANK YOU. I WOULD BE, I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING THIS ISSUE. YEAH. I'M ALSO GONNA BE SUPPORTING THIS. IT'S A HARD VOTE BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING TO INCREASE RATES, BUT WE'RE INCREASING RATES TO PAY BILLS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY COME IN AND PAID BECAUSE WE HAD TO PAY COST OF ENERGY. SEEMS TO ME THERE'S ONLY TWO CHOICES. DO WE PAY THAT EXPENSE OR DO WE NOT PAY THE EXPENSE? IF WE DON'T PAY THE EXPENSE, THEN IT'S GONNA COST THE RATE PAYERS MORE, UH, IMMEDIATELY OUR BOND RATINGS GO UP [04:50:01] THEN, I MEAN, THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO THAT. SO IT'S GONNA END UP COSTING TAXPAYERS MORE. SO THEN THE QUESTION IS, WE'RE NOT GONNA COST TAX PAYERS MORE AND WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE THE RATE. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN DO IT IN A WAY THAT MINIMIZES THE IMPACT? AND I, UH, APPRECIATE THE WORK OF STAFF AND, AND COUNCIL TO FIND A WAY TO, UH, LESSEN THAT SHOCK, UH, BY SPREADING IT OUT OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN BUILDING IN THE TRIGGERS AND THE CONTROLS TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT HERE. AGAIN, PART OF THE INCREASE IS DUE TO, UH, WE HEARD THE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN RUSSIA, PART OF IT'S AN INCREASE IN, IN, IN, UH, PRICE OF NATURAL GAS. PART OF IT IS THAT WE HAVE A DEBT OWED US BY ERCOT AND OTHER PROVIDERS THAT THEY CAN'T PAY BECAUSE THEY'RE IN BANKRUPTCY IN THE STORM. UH, WE ALSO KNOW, KNEW A YEAR AGO THAT WE, UH, WERE PAYING BACK CUSTOMERS FOR AN OVERPAYMENT, UH, THAT THEY HAD MADE. SO WE KNEW AT THE END OF THE 12 MONTHS NOW RATES WERE GONNA GO BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE TO START OFF WITH, UM, AFTER WE DID THAT PAYBACK. AND I THINK THAT'S BEING LOST TOO. SOMEONE SUGGESTED AT THE WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY, AND I WOULD URGE AUSTIN ENERGY TO CONSIDER IT FOR FUTURE INSTANCES THAT PROBABLY THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MIXED IN ON THE BILL THAT RATE PAYERS WERE PAYING, AS IF IT LOOKED LIKE THE RATE WAS LOWER. THERE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN MAINTAINING THE RATE, BUT THEN SHOWING A CREDIT THAT EVERYBODY WAS GETTING FOR, UH, PRIVATE PARENTS. THUS, WHEN THE CREDIT CAME OFF, PEOPLE COULD READILY SEE THAT THE RATE WASN'T GOING UP. IT WAS JUST THAT THEY HAD, UH, HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF THE CREDIT FOR THAT 12 MONTH PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE IT WENT AWAY. BUT REGARDLESS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A KIND OF A RESPONSIBLE DECISION FOR US TO MAKE OTHER THAN THE, THAN THE, THAN THE TWO A. AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE MOTION IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECONDED. COUNCIL TOVO. WELL, WE'RE ON THAT POINT. UM, I, I HAD BROUGHT UP THE POINT ABOUT MESSAGING AND I DIDN'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR IT, BUT I THINK THAT IS A GREAT SOLUTION, UM, IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE IT AS A CREDIT OR, OR AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE WITH, UM, IF YOU HAVE AN INDICATION OF WHEN THAT TIME IS GONNA BE UP, UM, HAVING A DATE, A DATE FOR THAT TOO. OKAY, SO IT'S MOVING. SECOND, LET'S TAKE COUNCILMAN POOL. I WANTED TO DO A ROUND OF THANK YOUS IF I COULD. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE, ARE, UM, MEANINGFUL AND AND NECESSARY, UM, SPECIFICALLY TO THE MAYOR FOR HIS HELP, UH, TO MY STAFF AND ME AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE DIFFICULT, UM, DECISIONS. UM, AND TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE DIAS FOR THE CAREFUL, THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAVE ALL ENGAGED IN AND THE DEEP DIVE THAT EVERYBODY IS DOING ON, UM, ON SOME PRETTY TECHNICAL MATTERS. AND OF COURSE TO JACKIE SERGEANT, OUR GENERAL MANAGER, AND MARK DON BROSKI AND TAMMY COOPER, UM, AND OUR LATEST NEW STAFF, OR AMY EVERHARD, WHO'S THE GOVERN GOVERNMENT LIAISON OFFICER NOW FOR AUSTIN ENERGY, YOU GUYS, UM, IT WAS A HUGE CHALLENGE. IT CAME LATE IN THE DAY AND WE ALL GOT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND WORKED TOGETHER TO GET TO A GOOD COMPROMISE. AND WE ALL DID THIS TOGETHER. UM, AND WE DID IT FOR THE RESIDENTS AND, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WATCHING US. AND THEN OF COURSE TO ALL OF ALL OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS WHO WORKED PRETTY MUCH NIGHT AND DAY OVER THE LAST THREE WEEKS. IT WAS A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND TO GET US TO, UM, WHERE WE ARE TODAY. UM, SO THIS RECOVERY OF ENERGY COSTS IS PRIMARILY FROM THE BIG PRICE HIKES, UH, THAT THE MAYOR JUST SPOKE ABOUT. UM, IT'S ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT COMING AS IT DOES IN TANDEM WITH, UH, THE CONVERSATION ON THE BASE RATES. UH, WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING THOSE TWO CONVERSATIONS SEPARATE AS WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS, BUT THEY ARE ENTWINED AND WILL BE SEEN ON EVERYBODY'S BILL. SO, UM, A LOT OF EFFORT WAS PUT INTO FINDING A WAY TO EASE THE BURDEN ON OUR CUSTOMERS, AND WE WILL APPLY THAT SAME EFFORT FOR THE UPCOMING CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS ON THE BASE RATE. SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR, UH, THE SHOULDERS TO THE WHEEL ON THIS ONE. I, I AM CERTAINLY GRATEFUL. AND MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AS CHAIR OF THE AUSTIN ENERGY COMMITTEE, UH, ON THE COUNCIL, YOU AND YOUR STAFF AS WELL. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR OPTION TWO. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, THOSE, UH, OPPOSED? SO I'M SHOWING TWO MEMBERS OPPOSED. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTES, I'M SHOWING THREE MEMBERS OPPOSED. KELLY FUENTES AND ALICE, DID ANYBODY ABSTAIN? SO I'M SHOWING THREE. DID THE OTHERS VOTE? I SO THEN I MAKE THAT COUNT. EIGHT IN FAVOR AND THREE AGAINST, [04:55:02] EVERYONE'S HERE VOTING IT PASSES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AND DO THE CONSENT AGENDA ON ZONING SO WE CAN LET UH, PEOPLE GO. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, [39. Approve a resolution directing the City Manager to draft an ordinance that authorizes the property located at 2400 South Congress Avenue to obtain a Type 2 Non-Peak Hour Permit for Concrete Installation.] WHILE WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE, I THOUGHT YOU HAD INDICATED TO ME THAT ITEM NUMBER 39, THE CONCRETE POOR CASE, UH, YOU WERE GOING TO ASK IF THAT COULD BE POSTPONED FOR TWO WEEKS AND THEN COME BACK TO US. UH, YES. I, MARY, I, I WANT TO POSTPONE THIS. I, THERE'S BEEN SOME MORE INFORMATION COMING OUT AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL MY COLLEAGUES HAVE THAT, ALL THAT INFORMATION SO THEY, THEY'LL HAVE A GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE. AND AT , HE BID BED O TURF. AND, AND ALSO THE, UH, THE, UH, HEBS ALSO IT IS OKAY WITH POSTPONING AT TWO WEEKS. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, MANAGER IS A REALLY SHORT THING. WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER IT IN TWO WEEKS. UH, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, UH, I WOULD REQUEST FOR ME TO, TO BRING IT BACK IN THE FORM OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE POSTPONING TODAY, BUT ALSO BRING IT BACK IN AN ORDINANCE FORM. SO IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO ACT, UH, AND PASS THE ORDINANCE AT THE SAME MEETING, WE CAN DISPENSE WITH IT THEN. SO ID JUST LIKE THAT OPTION TO BE AVAILABLE TO US. YES. GUESS WHAT? WRONG IN THAT CASE. SO I NEED TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES ASKING STAFF TO, UM, OR ASKING THE SPONSOR WHAT OTHER KINDS OF THINGS ARE GONNA BE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IS COMING BACK. UM, ARE THERE GOING TO BE NOISE MITIGATION MEASURES? ARE THERE GOING TO, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHICH TYPE PERMIT, UM, IS GONNA BE INCLUDED? BECAUSE DIFFERENT ONES HAVE DIFFERENT DISABILITY LEVELS. I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE MORE CONVERSATION TO HAVE HERE IF IT'S COMING BACK AS AN ORDINANCE. AND I ALSO WANNA ASK STAFF IF THEY COULD, I APPRECIATED THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE BACKUP BECAUSE I HAD FORGOTTEN THE COURSE OF CONVERSATION, UM, THAT WE HAD. MANY OF US HAD, UM, BACK IN 2016 WHERE THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE, THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE CONCERN, UH, ESPECIALLY DOWNTOWN, I THINK IN 2014. WELL, NOW I'M NOT GONNA REMEMBER THE CHRONOLOGY, RIGHT, BUT, UM, BASICALLY IN 2016, WE PULLED BACK ON THE HOURS OF CONCRETE POS DOWNTOWN IF I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS. AND PART OF THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS REACHED WAS TO HAVE NOISE MITIGATION AND OTHER KINDS OF THINGS AND VERY SPECIFIC NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS. SO WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN KNOWING FROM STAFF, AND MAYBE YOU'LL HAVE TO LET ME KNOW OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING, IS WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S THE CIRCUMFERENCE CIRCUMFERENCE FROM A SITE WHERE THE NOISE IS IMPACTFUL? AND I KNOW THAT WILL BE DIFFERENT DOWNTOWN, BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T ALLOW OVERNIGHT CONCRETE POURS OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN, I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO MEASURE WHAT IS SIGN, WHAT IS SUFFICIENT NOTIFICATION? I THINK IT'S 300 FEET FROM A SITE DOWNTOWN. UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA BECAUSE AS YOUR Q AND A SUGGESTS, WE'VE NEVER DONE IT. WE'VE NEVER ALLOWED OVERNIGHT CONCRETE POURS OUTSIDE OF THE CBD THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. AND WE DO HAVE BRIAN BLOCK ON THE LINE FROM DSD. BRIAN ALSO HAPPENS TO LEAD OUR SOUND ENFORCEMENT. AND SO BRIAN'S, UH, DEFINITELY THE EXPERT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CIRCUMFERENCE, UM, AS IT, AS IT, UM, RELATES TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AND I'M NOT SURE IF BRIAN WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION TODAY, BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE QUESTION. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION TODAY, WE CAN COME BACK WITH IT. BRIAN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADD? UM, THERE IS A, A NOTE BRIAN BLOCK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THERE IS A NOTIFICATION REQUIRED AS PART OF A, A NON PEAK HOURS CONCRETE POUR. UM, IT'S REALLY GEARED MORE TOWARDS MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE PERMIT IS ISSUED, MAKING SURE ALL NEARBY RESIDENTS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON IN TERMS OF WHEN THAT CONCRETE POUR IS HAPPENING, THE EXACT HOURS THERE'S A 24 HOUR CONTACT PROVIDED. SO, UM, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND, WHICH HAS A REQUIRED NOTIFICATION AND THOSE BECOME INTERESTED PARTIES AND THAT ALL TAKES PLACE BEFORE THE PERMIT IS ISSUED. THIS ONE IS GEARED TOWARDS REALLY GOOD COMMUNICATION AND RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR AND THE NEARBY RESIDENTS. AND IT DOES DEFINE, UM, ADJACENT RESIDENTS AND, UH, REPRESENTATIVES OF THOSE RESIDENTS GET NOTIFIED. BUT AGAIN, IT'S REALLY GEARED MORE TOWARDS COMMUNICATION AT ANY TIME DURING THAT POUR. UM, SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO BRIAN, UM, 300 FEET I THINK IS THE AREA OF NOTIFICATION FOR CONCRETE PORES. DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW THE, HOW THE NOTIFICATION, [05:00:01] WHAT THAT CIRCUMFERENCE WOULD LOOK LIKE AROUND THE HEB? I GUESS I'M TRYING TO EVALUATE THE OUTREACH AND WHETHER I'M REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW FAR THAT SOUND IS GONNA TRANS TRANSMIT. UM, AND I'M, I'M ASKING THIS IN PART BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO ARE THE IMPACTED NEIGHBORS HERE AT THIS HEB SITE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE, I THINK IT'S 21 REFERENCE WAS 27 CONCRETE FLOORS OVERNIGHT. ONE WAS 30, SO THAT'S 20 TO SEVEN TO 30, YOU KNOW, EVENINGS, OVERNIGHT. UM, I THINK THE FIRST ONE IS STARTING AT 2:00 AM YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE, UH, POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE DISRUPTED NIGHT SLEEP FOR, FOR PEOPLE IN THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT AREA. AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY OF THOSE FOLKS THERE ARE, ESPECIALLY AS WE CONTEMPLATE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE OUTSIDE, AS FAR AS I KNOW OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS 300 FEET, WAS 300 FEET SELECTED BECAUSE THAT WAS THOUGHT TO BE THE, THE AREA OF IMPACT. AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER, IT'S 600 FEET AND THAT REALLY DEFINES, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT 7:00 PM CUTOFF TIME COMES IN VERSUS THE 10 30 CUTOFF TIME. UM, SO THAT'S WHERE THAT 600 FEET COMES IN. UM, THE NOTIFICATION HAPPENS TO, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT AND, AND NEARBY RESIDENTS. BUT THE REASON FOR THAT 600 FEET YES, IS BECAUSE THERE'S A, A HIGHER LEVEL OF IMPACT. UM, AND THAT THAT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS OUR ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND AS WELL. THAT'S 600 FEET IS SOMETHING WE USE AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HIGHER LEVEL OF IMPACT WITHIN THAT DISTANCE. SO I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS STAFF WORK OR IF THIS IS FROM THE CO-SPONSOR, BUT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE GOT FROM HEB THAT THEY WERE IN CONTACT WITH EUCLID AVENUE RESIDENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST THE EUCLID AVENUE RESIDENT SOUTH OF ALTA THAT ALSO INCLUDES THOSE NORTH, AND I DON'T, I CAN'T EYEBALL IT AND DETERMINE WHAT 600 FEET OF CIRCUMFERENCE IS. SO IF THE STAFF BETWEEN THE STAFF AND THE SPONSOR, IF YOU COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THAT AREA, UM, OF, OF, UM, IMPACT AS, AS DEFINED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN CODES, AND THEN I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF THAT IS BEYOND JUST THOSE EUCLID RESIDENTS, I WOULD SUGGEST REACHING OUT TO THE AREA, UH, SOME OF THE AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT REPRESENT THAT AREA. GALINDO, SOUTH OF OLD TURF S UH, THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIES, THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS TO THE WEST OF, SORRY, TO THE EAST OF CONGRESS RIGHT NEAR HEB AND GOLDEN CREEK WOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AREA, THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE JUST NORTH OF OLTORF, WEST OF CONGRESS AND IN ORDER TO, AND THEY'RE ALSO LUCERO, UM, THE, IT'S ONE OF OUR INCOME RESTRICTED, BUT MIXED INCOME, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES IS NOT FAR FROM THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THEY'RE WITHIN 600 FEET. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TENANTS ASSOCIATION. THERE'S SOME OTHER, OTHER WAYS OF GETTING IN TOUCH WITH NEIGHBORS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WORD IS GETTING OUT IF THEY'RE WITHIN THE AREA OF IMPACT. MM-HMM. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ONE QUICK CLARIFICATION. IT IS, UM, NOTIFICATION IS PROVIDED TO REPRESENTATIVES OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS WITHIN 600 FEET. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE, THE CONTRACTOR DOES FOR ANY PERMITTED, UH, NON-PE HOUR CONCRETE PORT. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, MAYOR. NO, I, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S BEEN OUTREACH AHEAD OF TIME, YOU KNOW, OUTREACH FOR THIS MEASURE, I'M TRYING TO USE THE SAME, THE SAME MEASURE THAT YOU WOULD USE WITH YOUR NOTIFICATION. YEAH. AND I, I HAVE GOTTEN RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THE, UH, SOUTH AUSTIN RIVER ASSOCIATION. THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. UH, I MEAN, ARE WE GONNA BE GOING, HOW FAR DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GO? CASH? I MEAN, IT'S JUST POUR, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST POURING CONCRETE FOR GARAGE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA POSTPONE THE MATTER. YES. AND WE'LL PICK IT UP AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL RESOLVE IT ALL. MM-HMM. , I'M GONNA HAVE TO, WELL, I CUT HIM OFF SO I, YOU CAN RESPOND. WELL, I, I, COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK WE NEED TO RESOLVE, UM, SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS. I DON'T, THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN A POSITION AS FAR AS I KNOW. I REACHED OUT TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE AWARE OF IT AND THEY SENT ON SOME QUESTIONS, RECEIVED ANSWERS FROM HEB AND I'M GONNA FORWARD THOSE ON. SO, UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS OUTSIDE OF HERE, BUT MAYBE YOU COULD PUT IT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD. BUT TO THIS, TO THIS, TO THIS POINT, NOBODY THAT I'M AWARE OF HAS WEIGHED IN, IN OPPOSITION AT ALL. AND I DIDN'T SUGGEST THEY HAD. I'M SIMPLY SAYING THAT AS WE CONSIDER THIS ON OUR AGENDA, I WANNA KNOW [05:05:01] WHO IS CONTACT AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PAR THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA OF IMPACT WERE CONTACTED. SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HOW FAR I'M GONNA GO. THAT'S AS FAR AS I'M GONNA GO CUZ I WANNA UNDERSTAND, I WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OUTREACH, WHAT IT MEANS WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE OUTREACH WAS CONDUCTED. AND I WANNA BE SURE IT, IT INCLUDED ALL OF THOSE WHO COULD POTENTIALLY BE IMPACTED. THANK YOU AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY'RE ALL ON BOARD WITH THE PLAN. THANK YOU GUYS. KELLY, I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE ANY, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU FEEL. SO IF IF YOU DON'T TRUST MY WORD, THEN THAT'S FINE. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. OKAY, LET'S GO ON COUNCIL OR KELLY, THANK YOU. UM, I, I KNOW THIS HEB IS GONNA BE A GREAT RESOURCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO, UM, THE OUTREACH THAT'S BEEN DONE. BUT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER REN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, I SPOKE WITH A CLOSE FAMILY FRIEND THIS MORNING WHO LIVES ON EUCLID AND THEY HAD NOT BEEN NOTIFIED OF THIS HAPPENING, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT ADDITIONAL TIME FOR ADDITIONAL OUTREACH SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY AFFECTED IS NOTIFIED OF WHAT'S GOING ON. GREAT. THANKS EVERYBODY. AND WE ARE ALL IN VIOLENT AGREEMENT. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS BEING POSTPONED FOR TWO WEEKS? HEARING NONE. THIS MATTER WILL BE POSTPONED FOR TWO WEEKS. THANK YOU. I THINK NOW WE CAN GET TO THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA. OH, AND BY THE WAY, I WANT THE RECORD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ON THE AUSTIN ENERGY VOTE IT WAS EIGHT TO THREE AND THE THREE NO VOTES IN THAT WERE COUNCIL MEMBERS, KELLY FUENTES AND ELLIS, THE OTHERS' VOTING I, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON, UM, WAS RAISED HER HAND VOTING NO AS WELL. OKAY. SO SHE IS COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON WITH US. SHE WAS JUST THE NAME. SHE WAS HERE JUST A SECOND AGO AND WE LOST HER. SHE'S STILL ON THERE. SHE'S JUST NOT IN THE PICTURE. SO, SO YOU, SHE INTENDED SHE HAD RAISED HER HAND TO VOTE NO. AND WAS RECORDED AS VOTING? YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY, SO THEN THE VOTE WAS SEVEN TO FOUR AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON ALSO VOTING. NO. I LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT JURY HEARING [Zoning and Neighborhood Plan Amendments (Public Hearings and Possible Action)] IN COUNCIL JURY RUSH OVER IN THE HOUSING AND PLAN DEPARTMENT. I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE CONSENTED UH, ZONING AGENDA FOR TODAY. FIRST ONE IS ITEM 52. THIS IS CASE C 14 H 2020 2 0 98. I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON SECOND AND THIRD READINGS. ITEM NUMBER 53 IS KC EIGHT 14 2009 0 1 39 0.08. THIS IS A STAFF POSTPONE REQUEST TO OCTOBER 27TH. ITEM NUMBER 54, THIS CASE C 14 2020 2 39. THIS IS A JOINT POSTPONE REQUEST BY BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT TO OCTOBER 27TH. I AM NUMBER 56, THIS CASE C 14 2020 2 0 0 8 0. I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS. ITEM 56, THIS CASE C 14 2020 2 0 96. I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS. ITEM NUMBER 57, THIS CASE C 14 2020 0 1 43. THIS IS A POSTPONE BY REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO NOVEMBER 15TH. ITEM NUMBER 58. THIS CASE C 14 2020 1, 0 1 0 9. UH, THIS CASE IS I CAN OFFER FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON SECOND AND THIRD READINGS. I'M NUMBER 59, CASE C 14 2020 2 0 0 40. THIS IS AN INDEFINITE POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT. ITEM 60 C 14 2020 2 0 0 49. THIS IS A POSTPONE REQUEST BY THE STAFF TO OCTOBER 27TH. ITEM 61, CASE C 14 2020 TWO ZERO EIGHTY SEVEN. I CALL FOR THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS. ITEM NUMBER 62, THIS CASE C 14 R 82 0 1 16 R C T CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER 63, CASE C 14 2020 2 44. THIS IS A POSTPONE REQUEST BY MAYOR PROTE MALTER TO OCTOBER 27TH. ITEM NUMBER 64, CASE NPA 2022 23.01. I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS. ITEM 65, THIS CASE, C 14 2022 EIGHT H THIS CASE I CAN OFFER FOR CONSENT TO PROVE ON ALL THREE READINGS. I WOULD MAKE NOTE THAT THE CASE DOES HAVE VALID PETITION AND REQUIRES NINE VOTES TO BE APPROVED TODAY ON THREE READINGS. ITEM NUMBER 66 C 14 2020 2 0 0 0 1 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM YOUR AGENDA AND IT'S REPLACED BY THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 67. THIS IS CASE C 14 2020 2 0 1. THIS IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT REQUEST TO OCTOBER 27TH. NUMBER 68 IS NPA 2019 0 22 0.02. THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR PLAN AMENDMENT RELATED TO THE STATESMAN POD. THAT IS DISCUSSION 69 IS THE STATESMAN PUT. THAT WILL BE DISCUSSION I IN ITEM 70, THIS CASE C 14 2020 2 0 0. [05:10:01] UM, 56. I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON THREE READINGS WITH THE ADDITION OF, UH, UM, ONE MORE, UM, ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN WOULD LIKE US TO ADD. AND THAT WOULD BE TO AMEND PART TWO AS FOLLOWS, DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY IS LIMITED TO SEVEN DWELLING UNITS MAXIMUM AND SUBJECT TO LIMITATIONS ESTABLISHED BY EXISTING SETBACKS AND BY ONE SHARED DRIVEWAY UNTIL SUCH TIME AS ROADWAY AWAY. IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT REQUIRES AN ALTERNATE DRIVEWAY CONFIGURATION. I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THAT CASE ALSO HAS VALID PETITION AND WOULD NEED NINE VOTES FOR ALL THREE READINGS. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME? GO AHEAD. OKAY. WELL FIRST IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS ALL ITEMS EXCEPT 68 69. COUNCIL MEMBER REMAKE THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND CASE MEMBER POLL SECONDS IT. DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN? YES. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR READING THAT INTO THE RECORD. I WANTED TO NOTE, UH, FOR, UH, FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, THEY'VE RAISED, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UM, THE FACT THAT IT IS A SUBSTANDARD ROAD. AND SO WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE WITH THIS LANGUAGE IS WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, UM, AND WE'VE GOT LANGUAGE ABOUT, UM, THE, THE STAFF, UH, THE STAFF IS PROCEEDING TO, TO DETERMINE WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH REGARD TO THAT ROAD. UM, AND SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THESE LIMITATIONS UNTIL SUCH TIME AS ROAD IMPROVEMENTS MAY OCCUR. UH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE CURVE THAT THE, UH, NEIGHBORS SHOWED US EARLIER, THE STAFF IS WORKING ON, UM, APPROACHES FOR SLOWING DOWN TRAFFIC. UH, THERE ALSO WILL BE, UH, CASES IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THAT ARE MUCH LARGER DEVELOPMENTS ON THIS ROAD. AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO BE, COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT WORKS ON THOSE ROADS ON THE ROAD AT THAT POINT. UH, AND THEN FINALLY, I WANTED TO FLAG FOR PEOPLE THAT WATERSHED HAS IDENTIFIED THIS AREA AS A FUTURE PROJECT, UH, RELATED TO DRAINAGE. IT'S NOT YET FUNDED, BUT IT IS, UH, IDENTIFIED FOR, FOR FUTURE WORK. SO ALL OF THAT IS TO SAY THAT, UM, THAT I APPRECIATED THE CHANCE, YOU KNOW, TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS. AND SO MY FOCUS HAS BEEN ON PUTTING A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SEVEN AS OPPOSED TO THE FIVE THAT AT ONE POINT THE NEIGHBORS HAD AGREED TO AND ALSO TO PUT INTO ACTION, UH, A PATH FOR FIXING THAT ROAD. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN MOVED IN. SECONDED. WE READY TO TAKE A VOTE? THOSE ARE FAVORITE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UM, I HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, ER S UH, THE MAYOR PRO TA UH, VALA KITCHEN. SO I'M, I'M VOTING IN FAVOR, BUT I'M RECUSED ON ITEM 55. OKAY. I JUST CAUGHT YOU TOO LATE AFTER COUNCILOR KELLY ALSO VOTING, I UM, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN ON ITEM 64 AND 65, ALTHOUGH I CAN VOTE CUZ I DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST. UH, BUT, UH, DIANE, UH, IS ON THAT BOARD. UH, AND MY VOTE'S NOT NEEDED BECAUSE THERE ARE NINE VOTES OTHERWISE. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON AND OFF THE DICE. OTHERS VOTING I EXCEPT AS NOTED, RIGHT? EXCEPT FOR MY RECUSAL IN 55 AND I FILED AN AFFIDAVIT. CORRECT. OKAY. UH, AND KESMAN. FUENTEZ WAS AWFUL ALSO OFF THE, UH, D FOR THAT VOTE. MARY, CAN I GET A CONFIRMATION THE NUMBER OF POSITIVE VOTES? BECAUSE TWO OF THE ITEMS REQUIRED NINE VOTES FOR, UH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE VAL PETITION. OKAY, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAD NINE VOTES. WE DID THE ONLY TWO VOTING NO ON THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT REQUIRED NINE NO VOTES. THERE WAS NO ONE VOTING NO. BUT COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON AND COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTEZ WERE OFF THE DIAS. OKAY. SO THOSE WOULD BE SHOWN AS 9 0 2 COUNCIL MEMBER TOPO VOTED. SORRY, EXCEPT IF YOU ARE NOT VOTING ON LANCASTER, YOU HAVE THEN I'M VOTING, THEN I'M VOTING ON LANCASTER AND THAT WILL BE THE NINTH VOTE SO THAT I CAN MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. UM, I GUESS THAT IS NECESSARY. I SAID IT WASN'T NECESSARY, BUT IT WAS, DO YOU WANNA WAIT? NO, I'M FINE CUZ I DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE CASE. UM, ALRIGHT, LET'S THEN PROCEED. [Items 32 & 33] COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE UM, UH, JUST A FEW ITEMS THAT ARE LEFT, UH, BEFORE US. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, YOU WANT TO DO 32 AND 33 THROUGH HOMELESSNESS ISSUES? YES. I'M GONNA BRING UP ITEM 33. UM, AND FOR I, UH, AND I BELIEVE THE, UM, CITY MANAGER HAS A COMMENT ON 32. DO YOU WANT TO STATE THAT FIRST AND THEN I'LL SURE. I THINK THE, THE STAFF HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE'RE GONNA, I THINK THE, PROBABLY THE BEST THING TO DO IS JUST WITHDRAW IT AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK WHEN IT'S READY. AND SO WE'LL JUST WITHDRAW ITEM 32 AND THEN BRING IT [05:15:01] BACK WHEN IT'S READY. OKAY. SO 32 IS WITHDRAWN. OKAY. I DON'T THREE NUMBER 33. I'D LIKE TO, THIS IS MY MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 33. I'D LIKE TO POSTPONE THE AGREEMENT WITH SUNRISE COMMUNITY CHURCH. UH, BUT GO FORWARD WITH THE OTHER THREE AGREEMENTS. THEY ARE YOUTH AND FAMILY ALLIANCE STREET OUTREACH, URBAN ALCHEMY, AND AUSTIN AREA URBAN LEAGUE. AND STAFF WILL BRING FORWARD THE SUNRISE AGREEMENT IN TWO WEEKS ON OCTOBER 27TH. THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE LANGUAGE. WE STAFF NEEDED SOME MORE TIME TO WORK. PULL SECOND THAT MEASURE. I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. OKAY. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. SO, UM, THE, THE REASON TO, TO MOVE FORWARD THIS WAY IS BECAUSE WE NEEDED, UH, THE STAFF NEEDED A BIT MORE TIME TO WORK OUT THE LANGUAGE WITH REGARD TO SUNRISE. AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S TWO WEEKS AND THESE OTHER THREE WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH TODAY. OKAY. THREE MOVING FORWARD. SUNRISE BEING POST POSTPONED COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS. UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN, SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, ALL OF US HERE ARE VOTING. YES. UH, OFF THE DIAS ARE VELA, UM, HARPER, MADISON, AND FUENTES, THE OTHERS VOTING, I, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. MM-HMM. . SO ON AN AGE ZERO THREE VOTE, THAT PASSES. OKAY. OKAY. THAT THEN GETS US, I THINK TO, UM, [Additional Item] UH, ITEM NUMBER 74, WHICH IS THE BALANCING REQUIREMENTS WITH ENTITLEMENTS. UH, I MOVE 74 AND WE'LL SPEAK TO IT IF THERE'S A SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER, ALICE. SECONDS. THAT, UH, COLLEAGUES. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT, UM, UH, WOULD ALLOW US TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING THINGS, WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO HOLD THINGS UP AND THINGS CAN MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITHOUT, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GIVEN A CHOICE TO MAKE THAT LOOKS LIKE A CHOICE BETWEEN AFFORDABILITY AND, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL OR OTHER CONCERNS. ALL OF US WANNA AVOID THAT. THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO TRY TO, TO INSTITUTE A POLICY THAT, UH, WOULD HAVE US BEING ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT THE DELAYS THAT WE'RE NOW SEEING ON THE WATER FORWARD. STUFF THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, UH, IN FRONT OF US, US ON MOVING VERSION TWO, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN VERSION ONE, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW STAFF TO INITIATE ANYTHING. IT HAS STAFF COMING BACK. UH, BUT IT HAS THINGS COMING UP TO US TOGETHER. DOES HAVE STAFF TAKING A LOOK BACK, BUT IT DOES NOT LOOK BACK TO CHANGE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING WE'VE APPROVED IN THE PAST, INCLUDING WATER FORWARD SPECIFICALLY, BUT OTHER THINGS. BUT TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE, UH, BALANCES THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER BEEN MOVED IN. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION CUZ I, I'M, I'M SORRY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UN UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE HERE. YES. CAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT A RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW. SO LIKE ON PAGE THREE IT SAYS, AND I APPRECIATE THIS, THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE REQUIREMENTS ENACTED AND INITIATED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER FORWARD. AND THIS RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW IS NOT INTENDED TO UNDERMINE OR REVERSE THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW IS. I UNDERSTAND THE MOVING FORWARD PART, I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT, WHAT'S THE RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW. THE PARAGRAPH AT THE TOP OF THAT PAGE SAYS, THE CITY MANAGER'S DIRECTED TO ANALYZE REQUIREMENTS ENACTED OR INITIATED THE LAST TWO YEARS TO DETERMINE WHICH REQUIREMENTS REDUCED DEVELOPMENT, CAPACITY OR AFFORDABILITY. UH, AND, AND IF THERE ARE SUCH ANIMALS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO CL TO THE COUNCIL OR THE NEXT COUNCIL AND SAY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO BALANCE THAT HERE, AND THIS MIGHT BE A WAY TO DO, IT DOES NOT COME BACK AS AN ORDINANCE AND IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE ACTION THAT HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN TAKEN. WELL, I, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE TO ME, THAT DOES CHANGE IN ACTION THAT'S PREVIOUSLY BEEN, BEEN TAKEN. I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT YOUR INTENT, BUT IT SAYS IF ANY OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS REDUCE DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY OR AFFORDABILITY, CITY MANAGERS DIRECTED TO CONSIDER AND PROPOSE WAYS TO OFFSET THOSE IMPACTS. IF ANY OF THOSE PROPOSALS REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT, THE CITY SHALL RETURN TO COUNCIL WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO INITIATE CODE AMENDMENT. SO THAT IS A REVIEW AND A RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW OF THESE WATER FORWARD REQUIREMENTS THAT WE PASSED LAST YEAR. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S NOT AN AMENDMENT TO THE ACTION PREVIOUSLY TAKEN. TRUE. THAT'S TRUE. AND THEN MAYBE I NEED TO PUT IN THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN THESE PROPOSALS REQUIRED BECAUSE AMENDMENT WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE WATER FORWARD ACTION, BUT IT IS A REVIEW. WE JUST, WE PASSED LAST YEAR, TWO WATER FORWARD ITEMS THAT THERE HAD BEEN THAT WERE, THERE [05:20:01] WERE NO OBJECTIONS TO. AND SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT GOES BACK AND LOOKS AT THOSE, IT ONLY LOOKS AT THOSE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S, UH, UH, AN IMPACT ON DEVELOPMENT. AND IF THERE IS, WITHOUT CHANGING ANYTHING THAT WE PASSED AND MORTAR FORWARD, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR THERE TO BE, UH, AN ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS MORE QUICKLY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO, TO OFFSET AN IMPACT OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT, THAT, THAT STAFF MIGHT BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. BUT REALLY SPECIFICALLY, UNLESS THERE WAS ANY QUESTION, THAT'S WHY WE PUT IN THAT OTHER LINE THAT SAID, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTION ON HOW YOU'RE READING THIS, THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO CHANGE ANY OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE IN THE ACTIONS WE'VE PREVIOUSLY TAKEN. I I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT THAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THE, BUT LET ME TRY TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT I'M THINKING. SO IT SAYS THIS RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW IS NOT INTENDED TO REVERSE THOSE REQUIREMENTS, BUT TWO, BUT ONE PARAGRAPH ABOVE IT, IT SAYS, UM, CITY MANAGERS SHALL RETURN TO COUNCIL WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO INITIATE CODE AMENDMENTS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE PROPOSED OFFSETS, WHICH WOULD BE INITIATING CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD REVERSE THOSE REQUIREMENTS. NO, I, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT TO, TO REVERSE THE REQUIREMENTS. IT WOULD BE AMENDMENTS TO PROVIDE OFFSETS, OFFSETS BEING A PROPERTY OWNER THAT, THAT LOST HALF THEIR PROPERTY COULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS MORE QUICKLY PERHAPS. AND THAT WOULD BE ONE EXAMPLE OF AN OFFSET TO SOMEONE THAT, UH, WAS OTHERWISE LOSING DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OR INCREASED COST. BUT IT IS NOT TO AMEND THE PRIOR ACTION BEING TAKEN, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ACTION TO BE TAKEN. THAT IS NOT SUBJECT TO REVIEW. IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO CHANGE. UH, UH, I AM REAL SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THE ACTION THAT WE'VE TAKEN THAT REGARD. I THINK THOSE WERE REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS FOR US TO DO. AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT IN THAT LANGUAGE, IF YOU HAVE WORDING CHANGES TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE SPECIFIC. BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE IN. THAT WAS OUR INTENT BY THAT LINE TO MAKE, IF IT WAS NOT OTHERWISE CLEAR AND WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT IN ANY EVENT, IF IT WAS NOT OTHERWISE CLEAR, WE WANTED TO PUT IN A LINE THAT SAID THIS IS SPECIFICALLY NOT TO CHANGE ANY OF THE ACTIONS THAT WE'VE DONE EARLIER. OKAY. SO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF OFFSETS? MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT GETTING. AN OFFSET WOULD BE SOMETHING IF WE PASS SOMETHING OR PASS SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE THAT'S GOING TO, UH, IMPACT, UM, UH, THE, UH, IF IT'S GONNA REDUCE THE DEVELOPMENT CAPA UH, CAPACITY OR REDUCE AFFORDABILITY, THEN THE OFFSET AS DETERMINED IN HERE WOULD BE, UH, WAYS TO, UM, TO OFFSET THAT DIMINISHED, UM, UH, AFFORDABILITY. FOR EXAMPLE, THE OFFSET IS TO THOSE THINGS, IT DOESN'T SAY CHANGE ANYTHING. IN FACT, SPECIFICALLY SAYS, DO NOT CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THAT WE'VE ADOPTED. DO NOT CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CURES THAT, UH, WE HAVE MANDATED SPECIFICALLY SAYS NOT TO CHANGE ANY OF THOSE THINGS. UM, IT JUST SAYS TO THE DEGREE THAT BY OUR ACTIONS WE'VE IMPACTED AFFORDABILITY. IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO TO OFFSET THAT, MAYBE WE PUT IT THROUGH THE SYSTEM MORE QUICKLY OR HAVE A A, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE A BONUS. WE'RE NOT PRESCRIBING THAT. WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. UH, WELL, I'D FEEL BETTER IF WE SAID IN THIS RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW IS NOT INTENDED TO UNDERMINE OR REVERSE THOSE REQUIREMENTS, BUT ONLY TO PROPOSE NEW APPROACHES TO OFFSETS. I'M FINE WITH THAT LANGUAGE. THAT'S THE INTENT. ANYBODY, ANY OBJECTION TO THE LANGUAGE THAT THAT COUNCIL KITCHEN JUST PROPOSED? HEARING NONE. THAT'S INCORPORATED. COUNCIL AND POOL. YEAH. I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THERE IS NO INTENTION TO RE-LITIGATE SETTLED MATTERS. CORRECT. IT COULD BE THAT AN ANALYSIS OF SETTLED MATTERS SHOW US THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR ADJUSTMENT IN LIKE A BONUS PROGRAM OR CREATING SOME KIND OF NEW PROCESS THAT WOULD STREAMLINE OR, OR, UM, MAKE DECISIONS MORE QUICKLY. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS DO. WE LOOK AT HOW OUR POLICIES AND PRACTICES ARE CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE. SO AN ANALYSIS TO SEE IF THERE ARE NEW WAYS TO, TO MAKE THINGS, UH, SIMPLER OR EASIER AND THEREFORE LESS FINANCIALLY BURDENSOME, BUT NO RE-LITIGATING. ABSOLUTELY. AND THERE WAS, WAS THE INTENT OF, OF THE LANGUAGE AS FURTHER CLARIFIED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, UH, MAYOR PROTE. [05:25:01] THANK YOU. I PULLED THIS ON TUESDAY AND HAD TO LEAVE FOR A SIGNIFICANT REASON, AS YOU KNOW, MAYOR, AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT. UM, WE JUST GOT A NEW VERSION TODAY AND, AND BROADLY I THINK THAT CHANGES ARE POSITIVE, BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO SPEAK WITH STAFF. SO I WOULD MOVE TO PLUS FOR TWO WEEKS. AND, UM, IF YOU WANNA GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS OF THE QUESTIONS WE CAN, BUT I, UM, I HAVE SUFFICIENT, I HAVE SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS AND NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS AUTHORIZING. SO IF I HAVE A, IF I CAN MAKE THAT MOTION, IF I HAVE A SECOND TO POSTPONE IT, LET'S COME BACK. LET'S SEE WHAT THE OTHER QUESTIONS ARE. CAUSE WE CAN AIR THOSE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE QUESTION OF POSTPONING CUSTOMER TOVO. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WOULD WORK. UM, AND I HAVE A CO I HAVE MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TOO, BUT JUST TO GET THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PULLED TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT NOT REATING. SO IF, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE WATER FORWARD MEASURES THAT WE'VE INITIATED, DUAL PLUMBING, OTHER KINDS OF THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD A MITIGATION LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES? SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE GOING TO HAVE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. SO WHAT WOULD A, WHAT WOULD, WOULD, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHAT, WHAT WOULD COME FORWARD? DON'T KNOW THAT. GO AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE WORD OF FORWARD THINGS COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, BUT WHAT DO YOU ENVISION GOING FORWARD? SO THOSE ARE MY TWO STARTER QUESTIONS. KIND OF WHAT, HOW DO, WHAT KINDS OF THINGS WOULD MITIGATE OR COME FORWARD IN THE RETROSPECTIVE? LOOK AT THINGS LIKE WATER FORWARD AND THEN WHAT DO YOU, HOW WOULD THIS WORK, UM, IN TERMS OF A NEW, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A NEW MEASURE THAT WOULD COME FORWARD AND WHAT IT WOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY? OKAY. IS STAFF HERE COULD STAFF SPEAK TO THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE USED AS OFFSETS? CAUSE OUR INTENT WAS NOT TO BE PRESCRIPTIVE ON THAT. IT WAS JUST TO SAY THAT I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE IN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN THE CITY. I HEAR ALL THE TIME THAT IT'S, UH, IN PART A RESULT OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE. SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO, TO OFFSET THAT SO AS TO HELP WITH AFFORDABILITY, IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ASKING. AND TODAY, ON TODAY'S AGENDA, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS WE COULD HAVE ACTED ON TODAY, HAD THAT CORRESPONDING INFORMATION BEEN WITH US. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTED TO HAVE THAT CORRESPONDING WITH US. AND THAT'S THE ACTION WE'VE TAKEN AND, AND STAFF HAS TAKEN WITH RESPECT TO THE THINGS BEFORE IS TODAY. I'M JUST TRYING BY THIS TO INITIATE IT EARLIER IN THE PROCESS SO WE DON'T GET TO THIS PLACE. AND THEN START BACK AGAIN. RODNEY, I MERGED MY QUESTIONS. COULD WE TALK, COULD WE SEPARATE THEM TWO THOUGH AND TALK ONE ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF THINGS WOULD COME FORWARD WITH STUFF WE'VE ALREADY PASSED? OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER PART, KIND OF GOING FORWARD, MR. GONZALEZ, CERTAINLY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, RODNEY GON, I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES RIGHT NOW, BUT UH, THE RECOLLECTION OF COURSE FROM THE LDC RE REWRITE WAS WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AS WE MOVED FORWARD WITH VARIOUS REQUIREMENTS, WE WORKED WITH ME STAKEHOLDERS TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, IF THIS IS GONNA CONTRIBUTE COSTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT MIGHT WE DO LIKE IN TERMS OF ADDING ADDITIONAL, UM, DENSITY, IF YOU WILL. AND SO THOSE WERE SOME MEASURES THAT WE HAD TAKEN. I CAN GET WITH BRENT LLOYD THOUGH, AND ALSO HAVE HIM GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES OF OFFSETS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE USED. UM, RIGHT NOW OF COURSE WE'RE CHARGED WITH DEVELOPING A FRAMEWORK, SO WE CAN'T BE VERY SPECIFIC. WE WOULD COME BACK, OF COURSE WITH A FRAMEWORK AND WE COULD CERTAINLY LIST EXAMPLES OF, OF THOSE OFFSETS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION AND WE CAN CERTAINLY GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND PROVIDE IT TO COUNCIL. OKAY. SO RODNEY, HOW, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, HOW WOULD YOU, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CONDUCT THE RETROSPECTIVE LOOK WHERE YOU, WHERE WILL YOU BEGIN ON THAT? UM, AND THEN WHAT KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE SOME EXAMPLES OF IT AND WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF MITIGATION THAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING TOWARD? ABSOLUTELY. SO TWO YEARS FROM THE DATE THAT THIS IS ADOPTED, WE WOULD GO THROUGH ANY TITLE 25 AMENDMENTS, UM, AND LOOK AT THOSE AND LOOK AT THEM THROUGH THE LENS. UH, THAT'S PROPOSED HERE. UH, NOT IN AN EFFORT TO REVERSE THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THAT'S VERY CLEAR, BUT JUST TO SEE IF THEY HAD CONTRIBUTED TO EITHER, UH, THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT OR IF THEY HAD REDUCED THAT DEVELOPMENT AVAILABILITY. AND SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. UM, AND OF COURSE FIRST WE'D PUT TOGETHER THE FRAMEWORK AS WELL CUZ THAT'S, I THINK THE FIRST TASK OF ORDER IS THE FRAMEWORK. AND THEN GO THROUGH THOSE VARIOUS TITLE 25 AMENDMENTS. UM, AND AS IS MENTIONED IN THE RESOLUTION, WE WOULD THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL, UM, WITH THAT ANALYSIS AS WELL AS A RECOMMENDATION. UM, BUT WE WOULD COME BACK WITH THE FULL ANALYSIS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE USING THE RESOLUTION AS GUIDE AND USING THE FRAMEWORK TO INFORM [05:30:01] COUNSEL FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UH, WHAT, WHAT THIS RESOLUTION CAPTURES. DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH STAFF TIME THIS WILL TAKE? AND, AND ONE AND WHICH STAFF ARE GONNA BE PERFORMING THIS. AND I WANNA FRAME MY COMMENTS BY SAYING WE RECENTLY GOT A MEMO FROM DIRECTOR TRUE LOVE ABOUT, AND THEN, AND WE'VE HAD SOME FOLLOW UP CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CONSIDERING SOME IMPORTANT LAND DEVELOPMENT CHANGES. THAT, THAT I THINK EITHER PASSED ON CONSENT OR NEARLY SO. AND SO THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, UM, RE RESOLUTION I BROUGHT FORWARD LAST DECEMBER THAT INITIATED SOME CHANGES TO TRY TO MAKE THOSE MORE AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THOSE I UNDERSTOOD WERE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A FINAL VOTE IN LATE SUMMER. I THINK NOW WE JUST HEARD THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT COMING BACK UNTIL NEXT SPRING. UM, MAYOR PRO TETER AND THE MAYOR INITIATED ADDING RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL AREAS. I THINK THAT'S NOT COMING FORWARD FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER CHANGES OF THAT SORT THAT, THAT WILL EXPAND, UM, THE ABILITY TO, TO DEVELOP IN IN NEW AND ADDITIONAL PLACES. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS GOING TO BE, IS THIS, IS THE RESPONSE TO THIS GOING TO BE THE SAME STAFF WHO ARE WORKING TO KIND OF BRING FORWARD THESE MEASURES THAT ARE, THAT WILL BE IN INCREASING SURE. DIRECTOR OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT. AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND SHE'S CERTAINLY PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT JUST KINDA A GENERAL SENSE OF HOW MANY TITLE 25 MINUTES MIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO THAT TALLY, BUT ROSIE THERE MORE TO ADD ON THAT. HOW ABOUT THE STAFFING ISSUE? BECAUSE I KNOW IN, IN OUR CONVERSATIONS, UM, AND IN THE BUDGET Q AND A, I NOTICED THAT YOU ALSO HAVE A GOOD NUMBER OF VACANCIES. I MEAN, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT IS SLOWING DOWN DEVELOPMENT HERE IN THE CITY IS THAT THERE'RE QUITE A NUMBER OF VACANCIES IN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND QUITE A NUMBER OF VACANCIES IN PLANNING. UM, AND THAT'S HOUSING AND PLANNING AND THAT'S IN OUR BUDGET Q AND A IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED. SO CAN YOU GIMME A SENSE DIRECTOR, TRUE LOVE OF WHO WILL BE, WHAT KIND OF STAFF MEMBERS ARE GONNA BE RESPONDING TO THIS AND IS THIS THE SAME GROUP THAT IS WORKING TO PREPARE THOSE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE, ARE GOING TO, UM, OPEN UP OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE MORE HOUSING IN PLACES WHERE WE NEED IT? SO IT IT WOULD BE IT RE TREE LOVE DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND PLANNING. IT WOULD BE THE SAME STAFF. UM, BUT THE, THE THE TWO THAT YOU REFERENCED, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND, UH, COMPATIBILITY, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE COMING BACK. YOU SET THE PUBLIC HEARING TO INITIATE THE PROCESS, UH, FOR THE NOVEMBER 30TH COUNCIL AGENDA. SO AUS IS, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. AD IS BEING THROUGH, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, AND SO IT WOULD NOT LIKELY BE, UM, THE SAME STAFF WORKING ON ADU AS WOULD BE WORKING ON THIS, ALTHOUGH WE WOULD WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEM. UM, SO WE, WE DID CONSULT WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON THE POTENTIAL TIMEFRAME FOR BRINGING BACK THE FRAMEWORK. UH, AND WE DO THINK THAT IT'S, UM, TENTATIVELY FEASIBLE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR WITH EXISTING WORK. OKAY. VE I APPRECIATE THE ITEM AND I, AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE WERE JUST HAVING AND VERY APPROPRIATE GIVEN AGAIN, WE HAVE I THINK VERY NOBLE AND GOOD POLICY GOALS WITH REGARD TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, CHANGES. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE ADA ACCESS AND, AND DIFFERENT KIND OF ELEMENTS THAT GO TO IMPROVING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, GENERAL WELLBEING, BUT WHERE THEY BUMP AGAINST AFFORDABILITY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THOSE ITEMS NEUTRAL ON AFFORDABILITY AT THE VERY, UH, LEAST NEUTRAL? AND I, I APPRECIATE THE ITEM AND I THINK IT'S VERY SENSIBLE MOVING FORWARD. UH, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF ANALYSIS. I MEAN TO, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT THIS IS THE AFFORDABILITY IMPACT STATEMENT, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN AFFORDABILITY IMPACT STATEMENT PLUS WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS AS HOW TO MITIGATE A NEGATIVE AFFORDABILITY IMPACT STATEMENT SO WE DON'T, UH, INCREASE HOUSING PRICES. UH, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD APPROACH AND, AND ONE I SUPPORT OKAY. UH, COMES TO OUR KITCHEN AND MARY PRO 10. UM, I, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, I'M THINKING OF MORE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AND SO I I I WOULD SUPPORT, UH, THE MAYOR PRO TIM'S REQUEST IF SHE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, TO, TO POST FUND IT TWO WEEKS SO WE CAN ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS. I I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. TRUE LOVE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE OTHER ITEM RELATED THAT'S OUTSTANDING IS THE DISTRICT LEVEL PLANNING ORDINANCE. AND I EXPECT THAT'S THE SAME STAFF. AND SO, UH, SO THE REASON I'M ASKING THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS IS IT'S NOT, I I THINK THE GENERAL CONCEPT MAKES SENSE TO ME, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE IMPLICATIONS AND I'M REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE LIMITING IT TO, UM, OFFSETS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, BUT THIS KIND [05:35:01] OF ANALYSIS OF IMPACT WAS DONE BEFORE WE EVEN PASSED THOSE WATER FORWARD REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE WHEN WE INITIATED THOSE WATER FORWARD REQUIREMENTS, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT THAT SAID WE MUST DO THE ANALYSIS OF THE COST IMPACTS. SO THAT WAS DONE AT THAT TIME BEFORE THAT CAME BACK TO US AND BEFORE WE VOTED ON IT. SO THIS WOULD BE LIKE A THIRD LEVEL REVIEW ON THAT SAME ORDINANCE. AND TO ME THAT IS JUST TOO MUCH. WE'RE JUST RETREADING GROUND AND CUZ WE, WE DID IT FIRST WHEN IT WAS PUT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE DID IT SECOND WHEN WE PASSED IT AGAIN LAST YEAR AND NOW WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA DO IT A THIRD TIME. AND SO I JUST, I I HEAR THAT, THAT'S, I HEAR YOUR INTENT MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INTENT AND I DON'T HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH YOUR INTENT, BUT I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT HOW THIS WILL BE INTERPRETED AND CARRIED OUT. AND SO I NEED SOME MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. MAY PROAM, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS TILL OCTOBER MAY PRO MEETING POSTPONE FOR TWO WEEKS. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? MAY COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN SECOND SET, CUSTOMER VALID. DID JOIN NO, YOU CUSTOMER PRO. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO IT FIRST? IT'S YOUR MOTION. YEAH, I MEAN, I'M STARTING TO GET A LITTLE BIT A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT AND, AND I, I'M, I'M WAS VERY CONFUSED COMING INTO THIS IN PART CAUSE WE NEVER, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS AND GET CLARITY. UM, I HAVE A LOT OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT'S WRITTEN AND, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN PRESENT THEM IN A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY TODAY. BUT AS SOMEONE WHO IS NOT INVOLVED IN DRAFTING IT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS PROVIDING THE KIND OF CLEAR DIRECTION THAT OUR STAFF NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DOING FOCUSED AND FOLLOWING, UM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM. UM, THE STATEMENT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VELA SAID THAT THIS IS LIKE, GIVE US AN AFFORDABILITY IMPACT STATEMENT WHEN YOU BRING STUFF WITH SOME IDEAS OF OTHER THINGS OR HAVE SOME OPTIONS IN THERE THAT, THAT ALLOW US, UM, WHEN WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A CONSEQUENCE FOR ANOTHER WORTHY GOAL AND WE THINK WE CAN OFFSET THAT, UM, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, UPSETTING THE REST OF THE APPLE CART, UM, MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THAN THE WAY THIS IS FRAMED. I, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I CAN GO THROUGH SPECIFICS IF YOU WANT. I JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA WASTE PEOPLE'S TIME ON THOSE IF PEOPLE WILL SUPPORT, UM, THE POSTPONEMENT GOT, ELLA, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE, I MEAN, I, TO ME, AFFORDABILITY IS THE CLARION ISSUE IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW. WE'RE LOSING PEOPLE AND, AND WHEREVER I GO, THAT'S THE SINGLE MOST DOMINANT THING I HEAR. UH, AND I ALSO HEAR THAT THAT, THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO THAT BY THE ACTIONS THAT WE TAKE. UH, I KNOW THAT WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE, AND WE HAVE ALWAYS SAID WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE FORCED CHOICES BETWEEN ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT ARE NECESSARY AND IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY AND AFFORDABILITY. BUT YET WE'VE NEVER FIGURED OUT A WAY TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WE HAVEN'T, UH, WE JUST SAW THAT AGAIN WITH THINGS THAT WERE COMING BACK TO US TODAY AND PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK, TRYING TO DO THINGS THAT WOULD ADDRESS AFFORDABILITY. AND THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE OF THE POSTURE OF WAY THINGS CAME BACK. THIS IS A PRETTY SIMPLE RESOLUTION. IT'S NOT VERY COMPLICATED. IT JUST SAYS, HEY, WHEN YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON AFFORDABILITY, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER YOU CAN BALANCE IT. AND WE WANT TO AUTHORIZE THE, THE STAFF TO, TO HELP US DO THAT. I MEAN, IF PEOPLE WERE READY TO VOTE ON IT, I WOULD BE READY TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE, UM, I, THIS IS SO SIMPLE. WE COULD MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. IF PEOPLE WANTED TO POSTPONE IT FOR TWO WEEKS, WE COULD, WE COULD DELAY IT FOR TWO WEEKS. UM, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY, REALLY, REALLY SIMPLE. AS COUNCIL MORALES, I JUST THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW TO BALANCE THIS AFFORDABILITY FOR QUITE A WHILE. THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN THEMES OF THE, UH, HOUSING WORK SESSION THAT WE ALL PART OR MOST OF US PARTICIPATED IN A YEAR AGO. UM, NUMEROUS ITEMS HAVE COME UP NOT ONLY TODAY WITH ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ORDINANCES. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION. WE'VE, WE'VE TAUGHT EVERY TIME WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE IN AND THAT WE WANNA WORK ON AS A CITY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT INADVERTENTLY PRICING PEOPLE OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO I THINK THIS IS JUST A STREAMLINED WAY OF SAYING LET'S DO THIS COMPREHENSIVELY. I KNOW THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON HAS A RESOLUTION. SHE PASSED QUITE A FEW MONTHS AGO TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS ADDING TO THE HOST OF THE COST OF HOUSING AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN AS POLICY MAKERS TO CREATE THIS [05:40:01] BALANCE. SO I DON'T FEEL THAT WE NEED TOPO, UH, TO POSTPONE IT. UM, I UNDERSTAND SOME COLLEAGUES MAY WANT A LITTLE MORE TIME, BUT I'LL, I'LL SUPPORT THIS TODAY OR IN TWO WEEKS. IF, IF THAT'S WHAT IT COMES TO. THAT'S OUR KITCHEN. UM, COULD I SPEAK, HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF? I THINK IT'S FOR RODNEY. UH, WHERE IN THE PROCESS IS THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING AS A RESULT OF, OF, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER NATASHA HARPER? MADISON'S RESOLUTION? SHE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SUPPORTED IN, IN MM-HMM. . PARDON? I MEAN, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SUPPORTED. AND AT THE TIME I THOUGHT THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS DOING AN ANALYSIS OF THE COST OF VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. SO WHERE IS THAT IN THE PROCESS? SO WE'VE GOT THE DATA, WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT. IT SHOULD BE COMING THROUGH TO COUNCIL, JUST PRELIMINARILY MM-HMM. , UH, THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE FOUND IS THAT THE COST OF CITY REGULATIONS IS NOT A LARGE, UH, AMOUNT COMPARED TO OTHER COSTS LIKE FINANCING, LIKE CONSTRUCTION AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL MM-HMM. , UH, VERY SOON. UH, BUT IT'S, UH, GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE FOR YOURSELVES AND FOR THE PUBLIC AND IT CERTAINLY SUPPORTS WHAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT AS WELL. HOW DO YOU SEE THAT EX THAT EFFORT, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE DONE, DONE SOME OF IT AND MAYBE YOU'RE FINISHING IT UP. HOW DO YOU SEE THAT COMPARED TO WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED TODAY? WELL, I PUT IT IN THAT BASKET OF THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION THAT YOU ALL HEAR A LOT, WHICH IS, UM, WHAT ARE THE COSTS OF REGULATIONS TO HOUSING? OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE COSTS INVOLVED, UM, TO REGULAT FROM REGULATIONS TO HOUSING. THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF US WAS, WHAT DOES THAT COST IN COMPARISON TO THE TOTAL COST OF HOUSING? UM, BUT YES, UH, UNDOUBTEDLY THE, THE REGULATIONS DO CONTRIBUTE TO A COST OF HOUSING. AND I THINK WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS, UH, DOES IT ADD TO THE COST OF HOUSING? AND SO THAT COULD BE A DOLLAR OR THAT COULD BE A THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS, DOES IT ADD TO THE COST OF HOUSING? I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S, I MEAN, SO I HAVE ABOUT FIVE OR SIX MORE QUESTIONS. I WOULD REALLY JUST APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK TWO WEEKS IS NOT THAT LONG. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS CONVERSATION IS HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT SAYS IN ENGLISH THAT THE LANGUAGE DOES NOT SAY THAT. AND IF SOMEONE WHO'S REASONABLY INFORMED READS IT, WE DON'T WALK AWAY SAYING THAT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SAY, WOULD YOU COME BACK? AND, AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID MADE A WHOLE LOT MORE SENSE THAN WHAT'S IN THE, IN THE, WOULD YOU POINT WOULD ABOUT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU THINK IS, I MEAN, CREATING CONCERNS FOR YOU. CUZ IF YOU COULD BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT THEN THAN I WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU HAD EAT BETTER ABLE TO EVALUATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WELL, I MEAN, I, I WILL SAY THAT READING THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, I DID NOT GET THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THAT IT DIDN'T APPLY TO, UM, THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCES AND THAT WE WERE ONLY TALKING ABOUT COMING UP WITH IDEAS OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO THAT WOULD, UM, STILL HELP US ACHIEVE OUR GOALS. BUT THAT WOULD, UM, MAKE THINGS MORE AFFORDABLE. SO DON'T WHAT OFFSET WORD MEANS. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE USED, YOU KNOW, IN, IN BROAD TERMINOLOGY, THERE'S NO EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT MEANS. IT'S NOT JUST WATER FORWARD THAT'S IN QUESTION. YOU COULD TAKE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, YOU COULD TAKE THE WILD AND URBAN INTERFACE CODE. I MEAN, AND WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHICH POLICIES YOU HAVE IN MIND. I MEAN, YOU DON'T WRITE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT POLICIES IN MIND. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHICH POLICIES IN PARTICULAR YOU HAD IN MIND THAT YOU WANTED THEM TO, WELL, THE POLICIES SAY THE POLICIES TO SAY THAT IF WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT HAVE INCREASED THE LACK OF AFFORDABILITY IN THE CITY, THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT BALANCING THEM SO THAT WE DON'T, IF YOU COULD TELL ME WHAT IS NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS WE SUPPORT THE REQUIREMENTS ENACTED INITIATIVE IN THE LAST, ALL OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ENACTED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ORDER FORWARD. AND THIS RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW IS NOT INTENDED TO UNDERMINE OR REVERSE THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR THE REQUIREMENTS ENACTED IN INITIATED INITIATED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. I MEAN, I, IF YOU COULD TELL, SO CAN YOU GIMME EXAMPLE. SO, SO THE, THE RESOLUTION STATES, THE CITY MANAGERS DIRECTED TO ANALYZE REQUIREMENTS ENACTED OR INITIATED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS TO DETERMINE WHICH REQUIREMENTS REDUCED DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY OR AFFORDABILITY. UM, SO I'M TRYING TO GAIN CLARITY ON THE SPECIFIC ITEMS [05:45:01] AND, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WE'VE INITIATED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT YOU'RE WANTING THE MANAGER TO EXAMINE IN PARTICULAR, TO PROVIDE NO. THESE THINGS, NO, NOT DIRECTED TO ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, BUT I'M NOT READY TO ACCEPT THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT HAS IMPACTED AFFORDABILITY. UH, SO, SO I LEAVE OPEN THE POSSIBILITY THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE STUFF WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS ACT, HAS IMPACTED AFFORDABILITY, AND THEN WE GIVE IT TO STAFF. STAFF COULD EASILY COME BACK TO US AND SAY, NOPE, YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. IT'S IMPACTED AFFORDABILITY. OR THEY COULD COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE HAVE DONE SOME THINGS AND THEN WE COULD, WE COULD BALANCE THAT, UH, BY, BY DOING SOMETHING ELSE. SO NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY IN MIND. I DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR BALANCE IN MIND. THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE. IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST RAISING THE QUESTION AND GIVING THE STAFF THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS IT. IT'S THE SAME QUESTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ACTING AND HAS ASKED SEVERAL TIMES WHEN THINGS HAVE COME TO THEM ONLY TO HEAR THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE JURISDICTION OR THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR SYSTEM IS SET UP. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO CHANGE THAT. BUT IF THERE'S OTHER LANGUAGE, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE THAT LANGUAGE ANY CLEARER THAN THE WAY THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN. BUT IS THERE ANOTHER SECTION THAT YOU FOUND? SURE. YOU SAID THE WORDING ON LINES 26 TO 28, THE WORDING EFFECTIVELY REDUCED DEVELOPABLE LAND. UM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY EFFECTIVELY REDUCED DEVELOPABLE LAND? WHAT ARE EXAMPLES THAT WOULD MEET THAT DEFINITION AND WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES THAT WOULD NOT MEET THAT DEFINITION? WELL, TO REDUCE THE, THE DEVELOPABLE LAND WERE YIELD TO REDUCE THE DEVELOPABLE LAND WOULD BE TO SAY THAT IF IF 10% OR 15% OR 50% OF THE TRACK WAS DEVOTED TO, UH, A REALLY IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL USE, THEN, THEN THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, OF DEVELOPABLE LAND POTENTIALLY THAT IS BEING PUT TO A, A COMMON BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT SAYING TURN CHANGE THAT, I MEAN, LET'S KEEP THAT, BUT IF YOU HAVE LOST HALF YOUR LAND, UH, THEN, THEN IS THERE SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO TO BALANCE THAT YIELD IS WHAT THE, THE LAND LETS YOU DO. UH, IF YOU COULD HAVE DEVELOPED SOMETHING WITH A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND BECAUSE OF THE, OF THE REALLY IMPORTANT COMMUNITY BENEFIT ENVIRONMENTAL ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE PASSED, NOW YOU REDUCE TO 500 FEET, THAT'S A CHANGE IN, IN YIELD. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORDS TO USE THAT WOULD BE CLEARER THAN THAT. SO, BUT THE EXAMPLES THAT YOU'RE GIVING ARE VERY SUBSTANTIAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY REDUCE IT COULD MEAN THAT YOU DID IT, YOU KNOW, THE TINIEST LITTLE MILLIMETER AND THEN, AND THEN YOU GET AN OFFSET. AND, AND SO I'M JUST THERE, THERE, NO, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN HERE AND IT'S CHANGED BETWEEN THE TIME THAT I HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT AND TODAY. AND, AND I JUST FIND WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITION OF THAT. AND THAT'S EXTREMELY BROAD. AND BY DEFINITION, ANYTHING WE DO IS GOING TO HAVE SOME IMPACT. UM, THE MANAGER'S DIRECTED TO INCORPORATE A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS IN THE FRAMEWORK POLICY. UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS THAT SPEAKING THAT INCLUDE A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS IN HIS DEVELOPMENT OF THE FRAMEWORK? OR IS IT THAT WHATEVER THE FRAMEWORK HE COMES BACK WITH SHOULD INCLUDE SOME SORT OF STAKEHOLDER PROCESS? AND WOULD WE CONSIDER OUR, OUR COMMISSION PROCESS TO SATISFY A STAKEHOLDER REQUIREMENT? OR WE DO, WE MEAN THAT A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS SHOULD BE SOMETHING MORE THAN OUR BASELINE CODE AMENDMENT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH INVOLVE OUR, OUR COMMISSIONS. AND AGAIN, I I WAS TRYING TO JUST POSTPONE THIS RATHER THAN DO A MICRO ANALYSIS. NO, NO, BUT IT'S HELPFUL TO SEE THAT SO THAT, SO THAT I AND EVERYONE CAN EVALUATE WHETHER THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE REALLY SUBSTANTIAL OR NOT, BECAUSE IT WASN'T THE INTENT TO PRESCRIBE THOSE THINGS. WHO WAS THE INTENT TO LET STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE THINGS? THE GOAL HERE BEING THAT WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT IMPACT AFFORDABILITY, SHOULD THERE BE A BALANCE TO THEM AND RIGHT. BUT IF IT'S 25 SQUARE FEET THAT YOU'RE GIVING UP, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING AS SAYING IT'S 500 FEET OF YOUR EFFECTIVELY DOESN'T GET IT. WE COULD SAY MATERIALLY. I MEAN, IT'S NOT 25 FEET OR 26 FEET OR 22 FEET. I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND BETTER NOW AFTER THIS CONVERSATION, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. AND, AND I, AND I, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I ACTUALLY OBJECT TO THE GOAL. I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GIVING. AND WHEN WE CAME IN TODAY, YOU WERE GIVING A BLANK CHECK TO THE STAFF TO COME BACK WITH AMENDMENTS AND YOU CHANGE THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I'M STILL TRYING TO GET MY HEAD ABOUT HOW ALL THIS FITS TOGETHER, WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO, AND HOW WE GET THEM TO DO IT IN A, IN AN EFFICIENT WAY THAT HELPS US, YOU KNOW, HELPS US TO, TO OFFSET IMPACTS ON AFFORDABILITY. UM, AND I, AND I JUST HAVE THESE QUESTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY WOULD PRIORITIZE ANYTHING WITHIN THIS PROCESS. [05:50:01] I MEAN, WE HAVE A HUGE CODE, IT TOOK, YOU KNOW, YEARS TO DO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, HOW WOULD THEY KNOW WHAT TO PRIORITIZE AMONG THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO LOOK AT? AND, AND I JUST THINK WE COULD BE CLEARER AND MORE SPECIFIC OF WHAT WE WANT THEM TO, TO LOOK AT. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE. WE HAVE THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO IN AND SAY, WELL, THIS, YOU KNOW, REDUCES OUR, THEIR AFFORDABILITY. OR YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY INSURANCE FOR YOUR HOUSE IF YOU DON'T DO THESE THINGS. SO IT'S ACTUALLY INCREASING AFFORDABILITY. AND SO I'M JUST LIKE, WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS WITHOUT HAVING A DEFINITION OF AN OFFSET, WITHOUT EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO CONSIDER, UM, IT'S EASY TO READ MORE INTO THIS THAN WHAT YOU MEAN. AND, AND I THINK YOU HAVE A CLEARER IDEA THAN WHAT'S EXPRESSED IN HERE. AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT A RESOLUTION AND PROVIDE THE DIRECTION, UM, THAT WORKING TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE IT CLEARER ON, ON HOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO MOTION IN FRONT OF US IS THE POSTPONE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE AND THEN WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST MOVE THAT WAY. UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS FOR TWO WEEKS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. I HAVE THE MAYOR OF PRO TE I HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY. UM, SO IT'S FIVE VOTES. UM, SO THAT WOULDN'T PASS. UM, MAYOR, MAYOR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO APPEAL TO YOU TO LET US HAVE TWO WEEKS TO WORK THROUGH THIS. NOBODY IS SAYING THAT THEY DON'T APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT, AND NO ONE IS SAYING THAT THEY DON'T APPRECIATE THE CONCEPT. WE STILL HAVE, WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AND SO I HOPE WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO PASS THIS ON A SIX FIVE. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IF, IF I, I'LL GO AHEAD AND POSTPONE THIS FOR TWO WEEKS, IF PEOPLE WILL AGREE THAT THEY'LL GO TO THE MESSAGE BOARD AND GIMME WHAT THEIR COMMENTS ARE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, RIGHT. SO THAT WE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND SO THAT WE'RE NOT WORKING. SO, UH, IF EVERYBODY CAN AGREE TO GIMME COMMENTS HERE BY MID NEXT WEEK MM-HMM. , UH, AND, AND THOSE WOULD BE THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE, THEN WE CAN THEN WORK THROUGH THAT. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD AGREE TO A POSTPONEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THAT. I CAN DO THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TIME CONSTRAINTS, SO I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT RIGHT AWAY AND OKAY. AND, AND DO THAT. OKAY. THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. ANY OBJECTION TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER? TOVO MAYOR? I DON'T, I'M IN THE MIDST OF TWO OTHER BIG PROJECTS, SO I'LL GIVE YOU ONE OF MY COMMENTS NOW IN CASE I CAN'T GET DOWN TO THE MESSAGE BOARD OR CAN'T GET UP TO THE MESSAGE BOARD. THANK YOU. SO I THINK ONE, ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE MEASURE THAT WE DID PASS, I THINK WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE THE ATLAS 14 REGULATIONS, WHICH CLEARLY IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, THE FLOODING REGULATIONS THAT WE NEEDED TO PASS FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY REASONS. UM, SO IF YOU COULD, MAYBE ON THE MESSAGE BOARD OR HERE NOW, KIND OF TALK US THROUGH WHAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS. SO YOU'RE ASKING STAFF TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND THEN COME UP WITH AN ASSESSMENT OF THE VALUE OF LAND THAT WAS LOST OR THE VALUE OF THE UNITS OR THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WAS LOST, AND THEN PROPOSE HOW TO MAKE THEM UP WITH NEW CODE. I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY'S ASKING FOR THAT KIND OF QUANTIFICATION, BUT IF THE ATLAS IS RESULTED IN, UH, HOUSING COSTS GOING UP OR HOUSING COSTS IN THAT AREA GOING UP, A LOT OF THIS IS KIND OF THE SOUTHEAST PART OF OUR CITY WHERE SOME OF THE AREAS MOST IMPACTED BY THIS. AND IF THAT'S RESULTED IN, IN, IN LESS HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT AND NOW ON THE MARKET CONTRIBUTING TO THE LOSS OF SUPPLY OR, OR INCREASING THE COST OF THOSE HOMES AND STAFF HAS A SUGGESTION FOR A WAY TO, TO, TO BALANCE THAT. SO IS TO HELP US, UH, OFFSET THAT THEN, THEN YEAH, I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO COME FORWARD WITH THAT. IT WOULDN'T MEAN WE WOULD RE-LITIGATE. WE'RE NOT GONNA RE YEAH, I GOT, I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENTION THERE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS, I'M NOT, WHEN IT COMES AND I'M SORT OF NOT ASKING THEM TO QUANTIFY ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. BUT THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF, OF THE KIND OF THING THAT WITH THIS LOOK BACK, YOU'RE ASKING THEM, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE ATLAS 14, SEE. SURE. I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN, WHAT RESULT THAT WAS, AND THEN THE HELP WITH AFFORDABILITY RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ON AFFORDABILITY WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO DO. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GONNA POSTPONE THAT. UH, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING, UM, IN THE FIRST FEW DAYS OF NEXT WEEK AND HE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. UH, I THINK THANK MAYOR. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE LAST THING WE HAVE THEN IS THE, UH, UM, AM I CORRECT THAT THE LAST THING THAT WE HAVE IS THE, UH, UM, PUT [05:55:01] QUESTION, MAYOR TIM? UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF YOUR OFFICE COULD CREATE SOME SORT OF VISUAL TIMELINE, UM, LIKE A FLOW CHART THAT EXPLAINS HOW THESE PIECES AND TIMELINES FIT TOGETHER. BECAUSE IT ASKS FOR A RETROSPECTIVE AND A FRAMEWORK, AND IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO UNTANGLE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, AND THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE PIECES TO ONE ANOTHER AND, AND SOME KIND OF VISUAL MIGHT HELP. AND WE WILL ALSO PUT OUR QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THAT I FUNDAMENTALLY OBJECT TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE PIECES, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE GIVING DIRECTION, WE'RE BEING AS CLEAR AS WE CAN SO THAT WE'RE NOT WASTING RESOURCES THAT COULD BE SPENT ON OTHER THINGS WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED WOULD HELP WITH AFFORDABILITY. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. AND AGAIN, IT'S REALLY SIMPLE IN WORKING WITH STAFF AND THE DRAFTING OF THIS, THEY WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DRAFT A POLICY FRAMEWORK FOR HOW YOU WOULD DO OFFSETS OR CONSIDER OFFSETS OR BALANCING. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE AS, AS, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER GONZALEZ JUST SAID, WHERE THEY BEGIN, UH, COMING UP WITH WHAT THAT POLICY IS. UM, CERTAINLY ON THINGS THAT ARE COMING TO US, UH, THEY WOULD EITHER BE BRINGING IT WITH, UH, OFFSETS THAT WE COULD ENACT IF WE, IF WE, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BRING IT AS WE CONSIDERED THE INITIAL RESOLUTION, UH, THEY WOULD COME BACK TO US QUICKLY WITH A SUGGESTION OR RESOLUTION SO THAT, UH, WHEN WE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED THE ORDINANCE, THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE WE HAD IN FRONT OF US AND THE ABILITY TO ACT ON THAT DAY AT THAT TIME, ON, ON POTENTIAL BALANCING THINGS. AND THEN THE STAFF, AS THE STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO DO, WOULD ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS THAT WE HAD DONE IN THE PAST. AND THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON, ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND THE WORKLOADS THAT THEY HAVE. SO IT DOESN'T PRESCRIBE THAT FOR THE STAFF. AGAIN, REALLY SIMPLE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S POSTPONE, LET'S, LET'S THEN GO TO THE LAST THING THAT WE HAVE. JERRY, WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK UP AGAIN? UM, I'VE HAD, UH, SEVERAL COLLEAGUES WHO COME UP TO SUGGEST THAT THE WAY THAT WE DID THIS LAST TIME I THINK MIGHT HAVE BEEN HELPFUL. SO WE TRIED TO TO UM, UM, UH, UH, RETURN. UM, BY THE WAY, THE STAFF ALSO ASKED US ON THAT LAST ONE THAT WE JUST DID TO ADD A LINE THAT SAYS NOTHING IN THIS RESOLUTION LIMITS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S AUTHORITY TO INITIATE AMENDMENTS, UH, AS UNDER CITY CODE SECTION 25 1 5 0 1. AND I'M, I WOULD INTEND TO ADD THAT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANYBODY'S ANY PLANNING COMMISSION'S ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING OR THE COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING OR ANYBODY'S ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING. WHICH STAFF? SO THE STAFF SUGGESTION, THAT WAS A STAFF SUGGESTION. [69. NPA-2019-0022.02- 305 S. Congress PUD - Approve second reading of an ordinance amending Ordinance No. 20050929-Z001 the Greater South River City Combined Neighborhood Plan, an element of the Imagine Austin Comprehensive Plan, to change the land use designation on the future land use map (FLUM) on property locally known as 305 South Congress Avenue (Lady Bird Lake Watershed) from Industry to Mixed Use land use. First Reading approved Mixed Use land use on April 7, 2022. Vote: 10-0, Council Member Harper-Madison was off the dais. Owner/Applicant: Richard T. Suttle, Jr., Trustee. Agent: Armbrust & Brown, PLLC (Richard T. Suttle, Jr.). City Staff: Jerry Rusthoven, Housing and Planning Department, 512-974-3207.] OKAY. SO COLLEAGUES I'VE HANDED OUT AND HAVE POSTED ON THE BOARD, UH, SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, KELLY AND HARPER MADISON CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THEM. UH, TWO THINGS. ONE OF THEM IS, UM, STATESMAN PUT ISSUES. UH, IT IS A THREE PAGE, UH, DOCUMENT. IT HAS VERSION TWO IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. UH, AND I, IT'S, UH, THREE PAGES. SO FRONT AND BACK PAGE ONE AND A PAGE GOES OVER TO THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH IS IN THE FIRST GROUP THE ISSUES THAT I THINK ARE STILL SEEKING RESOLUTION. I COULD BE WRONG AND IF I'M WRONG, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE MISTAKE IN THE ERROR. BUT THAT'S BEST ATTEMPT AT THAT, UH, RESOLVED ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE LISTED AT THE END THAT I THINK ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RESOLVED OR WORKED THROUGH TOGETHER WITH A REALLY SHORTHAND WAY FOR WHAT THE RESOLUTION WAS. CUZ COUNCIL MEMBER ONE, LIKE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, ON TUESDAY WAS SAYING WHAT IT SAYS RESOLVED, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW IT WAS RESOLVED. SO I TRIED TO, TO PUT IN SOMETHING THERE THAT WOULD GIVE AN INDICATION OF THAT. I'VE CREATED A NEW SECTION HERE THAT'S CALLED FUNDING ISSUES AND PRIORITIES, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THEY, THAT WE CAN GET AND THE APPLICANT WOULD SUPPORT, BUT JUST NOT EVERYTHING. UH, SO IN, IN CASE WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE CHOICES BETWEEN THINGS, I STARTED TRYING TO, TO HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID THEY WANT THAT ARE GONNA COST MONEY, UH, SO THAT THEY'RE ALL KIND OF GATHERED IN THE SAME PLACE. THEN THERE IS, UH, A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, UH, IN THIS ORDINANCE. THIS IS THE ORDINANCE FROM STAFF. UH, THAT WAS THE, THE BASE DOCUMENT HERE IS THE ORDINANCE FROM STAFF THAT REPRESENTED THE, UM, UM, FIRST READING, UH, APPROVAL. UM, AND THEN [06:00:01] THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THIS. AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED WERE THE ONES THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD. ANY COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN HAD FIVE OF THEM. COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, UH, HAD AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS ADDED TO THIS. UH, I HAD BROUGHT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, TOVO BOUGHT A SECOND ONE. AND AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS, UH, FOUR OF COUNCIL COMMIT, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHENS FIVE AMENDMENTS I THINK ARE RESOLVED AND, AND AGREED. ALL OF COUNCIL MEMBER POOLS, I THINK ARE RESOLVED AND AGREED. SO YOU CAN SEE THEIR AMENDMENTS IN HERE, BUT THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN BECAUSE I'M, I'M NOT SURE THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE ON THOSE. IN FACT, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS. UH, BUT THOSE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO, TO WORK ON THAT ARE ENUMERATED ON THE FIRST DOCUMENT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED THAT, UH, CONTAINS SOME, UM, UH, UH, REDLINING THAT WILL LET YOU SEE, UH, WHERE THE, UH, APPLICANT HAD, UH, CHALLENGES OR QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED. AND THEN IN THOSE AREAS THAT CONCERN SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO WORK ON THAT'RE BLOCKED AND RED, THERE'S A RED BLOCK DRAWN AROUND 'EM THAT WOULD HELP US GET TO THEM. SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE, AND JERRY, UH, YOU'VE SUGGESTED THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO DO IT TOO, IS I WOULD LITERALLY START AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STATEMENT PUTS ISSUE VERSION TWO QUESTION, UH, UNLESS YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY FIRST TO US ON THIS, NO, THEN I WOULD START THROUGH, UH, AND I WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST THING, WHICH IS THE FIVE ADA ADA ACCESS POINTS, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. YOU CAN SEE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN'S WORDING WITH RESPECT TO THAT IS ON PAGE THREE OF 25 OF WHAT I'VE HANDED OUT. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THERE'S NOT A CHALLENGE WITH THE ISSUE. IT JUST COSTS MONEY. UH, AND THE QUESTION IS, UM, UM, WHERE WILL THE, WHERE WILL WE HAVE THE APPLICANT SPEND MONEY? IS THAT CORRECT? UM, WELL I THINK SO, BUT I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THAT. SO, UM, JUST AS CLARIFICATION, I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT, BUT THIS IS NOT, UM, THIS IS NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL ADA ACCESS. THE FIVE IS WHAT WAS PLANNED ALL ALONG. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL COST, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT FROM THE APPLICANT. I THINK IT MUST RELATE. OH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT RELATES TO. SO I DON'T WANT DO, I'D JUST LIKE TO A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, THEY ARE. AND MAYOR, IF I COULD REAL QUICK, UM, BEFORE HE SPEAKS TO THAT AS YOU, UM, WE DID HAVE A MEETING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER YESTERDAY WITH THE, UM, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT PARK STAFF, THE APPLICANT MYSELF MM-HMM. . UM, I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE ISSUE TOO MUCH RIGHT NOW CUZ THIS WAS A LATE AFTERNOON MEETING YESTERDAY, BUT IT TURNS OUT THE CITY'S ALSO WORKING ON A PROJECT, UM, ALONG CONGRESS AVENUE DESIGNING A PROJECT THAT, UM, ADDRESSES ISSUE ACCESS TO THE LAKE FROM THIS GENERAL AREA. OKAY. AND SO, UM, THE MAIN GOAL, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S ALL FINE, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, ABOUT WHAT THE PPLICANT CAN DISCUSS ABOUT THEIR PLANS ON ACCESS OFF OF CONGRESS DOWN TO THE WATER. UM, THIS MAY BE AN ADDITIONAL ACCESS THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY BEEN PLANNING AS A PART OF THE CONGRESS AVENUE REDO THAT'S BEEN UNDERWAY FOR A WHILE. SO WE ALL AGREED YESTERDAY THAT WE WOULD COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOTHING THAT PRECLUDES POSSIBILITIES, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, WITH THE, WITH THE ACTION IN THE PUT AND THAT, UM, WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT A INTERFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS. WELL, UM, UH, I I, I'M SORRY I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT IT IS THAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN. UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH ME SURE. AND LIKE I SAID, JUST, IT JUST CAME OUT YESTERDAY, SO YEAH, THAT'S FINE. UM, WE WERE, WE WERE ALL WORKING TOGETHER WITH, THERE WAS NO DISAGREEMENT ON IT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOESN'T DO SOMETHING THAT PRECLUDES THE ACCESS THAT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND VICE VERSA. SO I HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT IS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND STUFF. SO, UM, OKAY. SO APPARENTLY TWO QUESTIONS THEN WITH RESPECT TO THIS. NUMBER ONE, ONE IS, IS IT OTHERWISE PHYSICALLY PRECLUDED BY CONSTRUCTION PLANNING? YOU HAVE, YOU'LL WORK THAT OUT. HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT PRECLUDED. MM-HMM. , THE SECOND QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THIS IS WHY DOES THIS COST, WHY DOES COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN AMENDMENT HERE COST ADD MONEY? OKAY, I'LL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. MAYOR REMEMBERS THE COUNCIL. MY NAME'S RICHARD SUD, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. SO OUR ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN DID NOT SHOW AN ACCESS POINT ALONG CONGRESS AT THIS POINT, NOR DID IT SHOW STAIRS DOWN TO THE TRAIL, NOR DID IT SHOW THE, I'LL CALL IT THE CATWALK, BUT THE LITTLE BRIDGE OVER THAT YOU COULD GET TO THE ELEVATOR TO MAKE IT ADA THAT AFTER OUR LAST CONVERSATION, OUR DESIGNERS CAME UP WITH A NEW DESIGN THAT INCLUDED STAIRS AND, AND A BRIDGE THAT COST EXTRA MONEY. IT WAS AN ADDED COST TO THE PROJECT. [06:05:01] WHAT WAS THE COST? OUR GUYS ARE LOOKING AT IT, BUT IT'S LOOKING LIKE ABOUT A MILLION, TWO TO 2 MILLION. OKAY. NOW, WHERE THIS, WHERE THIS BECAME RELEVANT IS THAT THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION AT OUR LAST MEETING. AND LET ME, LET ME BACK UP AND SAY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS POD, YOU'LL SEE IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YOU WANT SOMETHING HERE, IT PUSHES SOMETHING UP HERE AND IT JUST A BALANCING APP. BUT, BUT HERE'S, HERE'S WHERE IT GETS RELEVANT BE. BEFORE YOU DO THAT, LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, PLEASE. MM-HMM. . SO, UM, SO THIS IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL ADA ACCESS POINT, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT, SO, SO HOW IS IT DIFFERENT THAN THE, HOW YOU WOULD'VE DONE THE FIFTH ACCESS POINT? I GET THE BRIDGE POINT. MM-HMM. . CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S NOT NEW, BUT ARE YOU ALSO SAYING THAT IT'S BETWEEN 1,000,002 MILLION FOR THE BRIDGE OR IS IT BETWEEN 1,000,002 MILLION FOR THE ALL OF THAT STUFF, THE STEPS DOWN. BECAUSE WEREN'T YOU ALWAYS GONNA HAVE STEPS DOWN? NO, WE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT CAME OUT OF THE PARKS BOARD. THEY WERE ANGRY THAT THE STEPS THAT WERE THERE NOW WERE GOING AWAY AND WE HEARD IT FROM MORE THAN ONE SOURCE THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME ACCESS AT THAT POINT AGAIN. SO YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS AND OTHERS SAID PUT SOMETHING THERE. MM-HMM. WITH STEPS DOWN THE STEPS THERE NOW ARE LITTLE SKINNY LITTLE THINGS. THEY'RE NOT RIGHT. MM-HMM. , THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE DESIGNED SOMETHING AFTER YOUR COMMENTS THAT IS GRANDER BIGGER AND GETS YOU DOWN TO WHERE I WANTED TO GET TO PLUS THE BRIDGE OVER TO THE ELEVATOR. MM-HMM. SHOULD SOMEBODY WANT TO GET ID ACCESS THERE. OKAY. SO THAT'S, SO MY QUESTION IS JUST THAT, SO I YEAH, I SEE THAT. UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT COST AND THE FIFTH ACCESS POINT THAT YOU WERE GONNA BUILD ANYWAY. WE ARE STILL GONNA HAVE THAT OTHER ACCESS POINT BECAUSE THAT IS ANOTHER PATHWAY THAT, IT'S THE ONE THAT FOLKS WERE DIFFERING ON THAT MADE YOU GO BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS TO GET DOWN TO THE TRAIL. THAT ONE'S STILL THERE. SO, BUT, BUT WHAT, I'M SORRY, I'M STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING. SO WE ALWAYS SAID THAT IF THERE ALWAYS WAS GONNA BE FIVE ACCESS POINTS, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO THERE WAS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIVE ACCESS POINTS, RIGHT. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BY SUBSTITUTING THIS ACCESS POINT FOR ANOTHER ACCESS POINT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO, IT'S GOING TO COST X AMOUNT MORE BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ACCESS POINTS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? CORRECT. BUT IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT SUBTRACTING ONE OF THE OTHERS. WHY NOT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE FLOW THROUGH THE PROJECT TO GET DOWN TO THE TRAIL. SO ARE YOU GONNA HAVE SIX ACCESS POINTS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? TWO OF THEM WILL GO TO THE SAME ELEVATOR. THE ONLY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE, I DON'T, I DON'T. MAYBE IT'S BEST. I DON'T KNOW. MAYOR, I DON'T INTEND TO USE THIS TIME. I DON'T WANNA USE UP YOUR TIME FOR THAT IF YOU'D LIKE. I I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND BETTER. MAYBE WHAT YOU JUST NEED TO PROVIDE IS, IS A, A LIST OF THE COST AND HOW THAT RELATES TO WHAT YOU WERE GONNA DO AND THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND IT BETTER. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THIS AND WHEN WE CAN MOVE PAST THIS ONE IS IF YOU COULD WORK WITH JERRY AND GET SOME JERRY SOMETHING HE CAN GET TO ALL OF US THAT SAYS, WE'RE SAYING THIS IS ANOTHER MILLION, TWO TO $2 MILLION BECAUSE OF THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE NOT IN THE BASE PLAN, BUT IF WE'RE BEING RESPONSIVE TO COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN GET ADDED. SURE. YEAH. AND THEN HOW THAT IS, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT, HOW YOUR ORIGINAL FIVE ACCESS POINTS WOULD'VE COST. SO WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS SOMETHING I NEED TO SEE CUZ I NEED TO UNDERSTAND. SO LET ME, LET ME SAY ONE MORE THING ABOUT IT THOUGH CUZ IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT AND IT MADE A LOT OF PEOPLE REST A LITTLE EASIER. IT IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINT AT A PLACE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTED TO HAVE IT, IT COST EXTRA MONEY. NOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, Y'ALL WERE CONSIDERING A, A BIGGER RAISE THAN WHAT YOU DID ON PART FEES THAN WE HAD BUDGETED. SO IN ONE OF THE MATERIAL PIECES WE HAD SAID, LOOK, OUR PARK FEES ARE A HUNDRED DOLLARS A UNIT, MORE THAN NORMAL PARK FEES PLUS WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS, 9 MILLION THAT IT LOOKED LIKE Y'ALL WERE GONNA PASS. SOME OF Y'ALL SAID, AHA, HE'S GOT 9 MILLION IN HIS BUDGET FOR THOSE PARK FEES, WE'RE GONNA GET 'EM. AND WE DID. BUT WHEN WE NOW DO AN EXTRA ACCESS POINT, WE'RE GOING TO BACK OFF THAT 9 MILLION EXTRA PARKLAND FEE. OUR PARKLAND FEES WE'RE ESTIMATING NOW ARE IN THE 6,000,009 RANGE. OKAY? IT'S THIS, BUT LET ME JUST SAY THIS IS NOT AN EXTRA ACCESS POINT. THIS IS NOT, MY INTENT WAS NOT TO CREATE AN EXTRA ACCESS POINT. IT WAS ABOUT, IT WAS ABOUT WHERE THIS ACCESS POINT WAS. NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONFIGURATION OF IT FOR VARIOUS [06:10:01] REASONS MIGHT COST MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAD PLANNED, BUT IT IS NOT AN EXTRA A D E A ACCESS POINT. THAT WAS NEVER MY INTENT. OKAY. RIGHT. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. SO, SO THE ISSUE FOR IN FRONT OF US GUYS MM-HMM. , AND BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAVE ABOUT PARK FEES. BEFORE YOU DID BUDGET IN YOUR PROFORMA $9 MILLION FOR PARK FEES, GIVEN THE ACTION THAT WE TOOK ON PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE, THAT FEE GOES DOWN. YOU'RE SAYING THAT GOES DOWN TO 6 MILLION SOMETHING. SO THERE WAS $3 MILLION THAT WAS IN YOUR PROFORMA THAT YOU WERE INTENDING TO SPEND WHEN YOU WERE FIGURING OUT WHAT YOU COULD SPEND ON PARKS ON ALL THE REST OF THE DEAL. THERE'S ANOTHER $3 MILLION. IT'S NOT THREE, IT'S ABOUT TWO. CUZ IT WAS 6.9 TO NINE. SO, OKAY. THEN WHATEVER IT IS, 2.1, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. AND, AND CATS MEMBER KITCHEN IS SAYING SHE WANTS TO, TO, TO CHANGE THE ACCESS IN WAYS THAT I THINK WE'RE ALL SUPPORTIVE OF. MM-HMM. , AND, AND YOU'RE ALSO SAYING, BUT THAT'S GONNA COST MORE MONEY. AND YOU ARE SAYING, I WANT TO TAKE SOME OF THAT 2.1 MILLION THAT IS THAT DIFFERENTIAL AND I'M HAPPY TO SPEND IT THERE, BUT AS A COUNCIL HERE, WE COULD DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT IT SPENT THERE OR WANT IT SPENT SOMEWHERE ELSE, OR IF WE AGREE WITH THE NUMBER OR NOT. AND WE'LL GET TO ALL THAT LATER. BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT HERE. MM-HMM. , I THINK WE ALL LIKE THE, THE PHYSICAL CHANGES. MM-HMM. , THE PLAN CHANGES THE COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN HAS PROPOSED, UM, SUBJECT TO THE ISSUE JERRY'S RAISING ABOUT CONFLICTS WITH, UH, CONSTRUCTION, BUT I'M ASSUME THOSE CAN BE RESOLVED. AND THEN IT'S A QUESTION OF ADDED COST. MM-HMM. AND WHAT IS THE RAMIFICATION OF SPENDING ADDED DOLLARS HERE. AND TO THAT END, YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE FOR THE COUNCIL A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY IS THIS AN ADDED COST. THAT'S RIGHT. AND, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WE NEVER AGREED TO THE $9 MILLION PARK FEE. I DIDN'T SAY YOU DID. I SAID YOU PUT IT IN YOUR PROFORMA AND THE PROPOSALS YOU DID, YOU KNOW IT'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE, BUT WE NEVER, WE, WE AGREED TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS A UNIT MORE. YOU, YOU, YOU FIGURED OUT THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF THIS PROJECT, ASSUMING YOU'D BE SPENDING $9 MILLION ON PARK FEES AND, AND NOW UNDER THE PARK REGULATION, IF APPLIED TO WOULD NOT BE 9 MILLION. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT IF WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THE NINE AND THE CONGRESS AVENUE ACCESS. I UNDERSTAND. THAT'S PERFECT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. SO LET'S NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, HOTEL USE. AGAIN, EVERY TIME WE GET TO THIS, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER F IS IS NOT WITH US, UH, TO, TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK THROUGH THIS, BUT IT WAS THE NEXT ONE THAT WE HAD UP. UM, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTES, I THINK WAS SUGGESTING THAT EITHER HOTEL U MOTEL USE NOT BE ALLOWED OR THAT IT BE A CONDITIONAL USE. DOES THE APPLICANT WANNA SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE? YOU KEEP GOING AWAY. UH, MR. SO I'M GONNA CALL YOU UP ON EVERY ONE OF THESE. SORRY, YOU NO HIDING. I'LL GET MY STEPS IN TODAY. ALL UM, I'M, I, I'M BEING VERY CAREFUL HOW I TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S AN INTERESTING ISSUE AND I MET SOME INTERESTING PEOPLE. UNITE HERE HAS REASONS WHY THEY DON'T WANT US TO HAVE A HOTEL. I GET THE IMPRESSION BY TALKING TO SOME OF THEIR FOLKS AS FAR AWAY AS PHILADELPHIA, THAT UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES THEY WOULD REMOVE THAT OBJECTION TO HAVING A HOTEL DOWNTOWN. WE CAN'T MEET THEIR, UH, CONDITIONS TO REMOVE THEIR OBJECTION TO A HOTEL. SO WE THINK A HOTEL IS APPROPRIATE LAND USE IN A MIXED USE PROJECT IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. WE WANT A HOTEL. CURRENTLY, HOTELS ARE ONE OF THE FEW THINGS YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET FINANCED RIGHT NOW. AND WE THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE AND WE WANT THE HOTEL USE. OKAY. WHEN YOU SAID YOU COULDN'T MEET THE REQUESTS, ARE THOSE LABOR RELATED REQUESTS? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS COUNCILMAN POOL? I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE USE OF A HOTEL AT THIS SITE. IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND THE LABOR ISSUE TOO. I'D LIKE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT AND, AND WORK ON THE LABOR ISSUE. I SEE THAT DIFFERENT THAN THE LAND USE QUESTION. THAT THAT WAS THE PROBLEM WE HAD. WE COULDN'T LINK THE TWO. I'D STILL LIKE TO FIRST OF ALL DO ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS ON THE LABOR ISSUE, BUT I UNDER, BUT I'M NOT, FOR ME, THEY'RE NOT LINKED. OKAY. MAY OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, CALI, AND THEN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO. THANK YOU. ITUNE AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE USE OF THIS, UH, HOTEL BEING USED ON THIS PROPERTY. I THINK IT ALSO MAKES SENSE, UM, GIVEN [06:15:01] THAT WE WILL EVENTUALLY EXPAND OUR CONVENTION CENTER AND DOWNTOWN WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE ACTIVITIES AND WE WILL BE, UH, A HUB FOR FESTIVALS AND CONFERENCES. IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT FOR THAT PURCHASE PURPOSE HAS TOBO. I WANTED TO APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR WORK WITH WORKERS' DEFENSE ON SOME OF THE BETTER BUILDER ISSUES THAT THEY RAISED. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH UNITE HERE AND I HOPE THAT, THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THOSE LABOR TOWARD AN AGREEMENT ON THOSE LABOR ISSUES. OKAY. ARE YOU STILL IN CONVERSATION, MR. SUBTLE, WITH, WITH UNITE HERE ON, ON THE LABOR ISSUES? I WOULD DESCRIBE IT RIGHT NOW AS AN IMPASSE, BUT ALWAYS HAPPY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS. WELL, AND IT, AND I DID SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT APPEARED. LIKE IT COULD HAVE BEEN AN IMPASSE WITH WORKERS' DEFENSE COME TO A SUCCESSFUL RESOLUTION. SO I HAVE A LOT OF A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE IN THIS CASE TOO. SO THANKS FOR CONTINUING THE CONVERSATIONS. OKAY. SO I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THAT ISSUE. I'M NOT SURE WE CAN RESOLVE IT. I THINK PROBABLY PEOPLE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BREAK THAT IMPASSE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THERE'S A, A LINKAGE. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN I'M LOOKING AT KITCHEN TWO AND THREE, WHICH SEEMED TO BE ACCEPTED. THAT GETS US THEN TO WATER FORWARD, WHICH IS IN, UM, NEXT ITEM. WATER FORWARD IS REQUIRED IN CITY CODE. AND THE QUESTION WAS, YOU'RE PROPOSING AFRICAN IS PROPOSING SOMETHING IN EXHIBIT Q AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WATER FO FORWARD IS REQUIRED IN CITY CODE AND, AND THE EXHIBIT Q CONDITIONS? AND I THINK OUR WATERSHED PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE HERE, PROBABLY SHOULD ALSO SPEAK TO THAT. CLEAR. THIS WAS AN ISSUE BEING HANDLED BY THE AUSTIN WATER UTILITY. UM, I KNOW THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ME AT THREE O'CLOCK TODAY BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE WATER UTILITY TO DISCUSS THIS. UM, I THINK OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY WHO WAS AT THAT MEETING IS ACTUALLY HERE INSTEAD. SO, UM, THAT MEETING WAS NOT ABLE TO TAKE PLACE. OKAY. SO THAT MEETING HASN'T TAKEN PLACE YET. IS THERE ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THIS YET? NO. APPARENTLY THEY DID MEET . AND WAS IT RESOLVED? LET'S, LET'S HEAR FROM THEM. LET'S HEAR. SO I, I DIDN'T COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WATER FORWARD, BUT, BUT OUR ENGINEER MET WITH THE WATER PEOPLE TODAY. THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN WATER FORWARD THAT START DEALING WITH GRAY WATER AND BLACK WATER AND ALL THOSE THINGS. AND I THINK WE GOT THROUGH THOSE ISSUES TODAY. AND, AND KEVIN'S ON THE LINE NOW TOO. HE, HE MAY BE ABLE TO SHED MORE LIGHT ON THIS. AND IT ALSO HAD TO DO WITH US BEING ABLE TO USE OUR WATER RIGHTS IN THE COLORADO RIVER TO DO SOME IRRIGATION. NOW HERE'S ONE OF THE INTERESTING PARADOXES. THIS THING'S LOADED WITH THEM, BUT ON ONE HAND WE HAD SOME CITY STAFF SAYING, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO USE LAKE WATER TO IRRIGATE YOUR LANDSCAPE OR YOUR PARK, AND WE WANT YOU TO USE RECLAIMED WATER. AND YET, IN THE OTHER HAND, THEY WERE TELLING US YOU CANNOT USE RECLAIMED WATER IN THE CRITICAL ZONE ALONG THE LAKE, WHICH IS KINDA WEIRD. BUT I THINK WE'VE RESOLVED THAT NOW WE CAN. AND, AND, AND YOU RESOLVE THAT. YES. SO CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? YEAH, PLEASE. WHERE DO YOU THINK WE ARE ON THIS NOW? KEVIN CRIS FROM WATER HERE. AGAIN, I WAS NOT IN THAT MEETING AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A REPORT FROM MY STAFF. SO IT MAY BE, UM, I I THINK THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THAT WAS AT LEAST IN THE MEETING AND PERHAPS I COULD, COULD HEAR THAT RESPONSE. UH, YES. UH, CHRIS RANDAZZO, UH, GARZA CM CIVIL ENGINEER. UH, I, I MET WITH, UH, SW IN KEVIN'S OFFICE, UH, AND, AND SOME OF HIS WATER FORWARD STAFF. UH, THE RESOLUTION WITH REGARD TO WATER FORWARD WAS WE ARE EXTENDING THE RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM TO THE SITE. IT'S, UH, THERE, THERE IS STILL A GAP THAT'S BEING PAID FOR BY A CIP P PROJECT, BUT IT, IT WILL BE FED BY PORTABLE WATER UNTIL THAT CONNECTION IS MADE. BUT WE WILL HAVE A DUAL PLUM BUILDING AND THAT WILL SATISFY THE WATER, WATER FORWARD NEEDS. UP TO THAT POINT IS THAT EXTENSION OF THE RECLAIMED SYSTEM TO PROVIDE OUR NON POTABLE NEEDS, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE IRRIGATION, UH, FOR, WE WILL SAY WE HAVE SET AGREED TO UTILIZING RECLAIMED WATER FOR OUR IRRIGATION NEEDS EXCEPT WHERE IT'S PROHIBITED AND THEN UTILIZING, UH, LCR WATER, UH, AS OPPOSED TO DOMESTIC WATER FOR THOSE AREAS WHERE IT'S PROHIBITED. SO, OKAY. SO I THINK WE'RE ADDRESSING ITEMS NUMBER THREE AND FOUR. NOW, THE APPLICANT SUGGESTING THERE'S AGREEMENT. JERRY, CAN YOU GET US AN EMAIL OR A NOTE FROM YOU THAT CONFIRMS THAT THERE'S AN AGREEMENT NOW ON THIS ISSUE OR NOT? SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE FOUR AND FIVE. [06:20:02] ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A QUESTION OF IS THAT A QUESTION OF WHEN THE PARKLAND IS DEDICATED? YEAH, I BELIEVE, UH, SORRY, I BELIEVE NUMBER FIVE HAD TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL PARKLAND FEE AMOUNT. OKAY. UM, IF YOU'LL RECALL THE APPLICANT AGREEMENT. I, I'M IN, I'M IN THREE AND FOUR, RESOLVED NOW, NUMBER FIVE. YOU'RE RIGHT. SO NUMBER FIVE. UH, THE ISSUE WAS, UH, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS ABOVE WHATEVER THE FEE IS. IF YOU RECALL CORRECTLY, THERE WAS A PRESUMPTION AT THE TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, THE FEE WOULD BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THE COUNSEL IN A RECENT, RECENT ACTION MADE IT A DIFFERENT AMOUNT. SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE APPLICANT WOULD PAY THE FEE BASED UPON THE, UH, PRESUMPTION OF THE ORIGINAL ANTICIPATED INCREASE VERSUS THE ACTUAL. OKAY. WOULD YOU HAVE OUR STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT THIS TO CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THE RIGHT NUMBERS ARE ROUGHLY 6.9, GIVE OR TAKE, AND ROUGHLY NINE, GIVE OR TAKE, AND DIRECTOR OF MCNELEY IS HERE AS WELL. DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? MS. MCNELEY? THANK YOU. KIMBERLY MCNELEY SERVING AS THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. YOUR ROUGH NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE. IT'S ROUGHLY 6.9 WITH THE BRAND NEW CALCULATION OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND THE NEWLY PASSED, UM, DIS THE NEWLY PASSED FEES FROM THE COUNCIL AND PREVIOUSLY THE ROUGH AMOUNT WAS NINE 900,000, 9 MILLION. I MEAN MILLION. I'M SORRY. GOT IT. SORRY. OKAY, SO THIS ONE'S REALLY SIMPLE. ALL OTHER, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL. I THINK WE, WE JUST ASSUME THE APPLICANT PAID THE $9 MILLION THEY WERE ORIGINALLY THINKING, UH, OBVIOUSLY UNDER THE FEE IT'S, IT'S 6.9. SO I AM TAKING THIS ITEM AND I AM MOVING IT TO THE FUNDING ISSUES AND PRIORITIES QUESTION CUZ I THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF DOLLARS. MAYOR PRO 10. UM, MAYOR, I WILL JUST THROW OUT THERE THAT, UM, PRESUMING THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS THEM TO, TO STAND BY WHAT SEEMED TO BE PLEDGE FOR, ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH WAS WHAT WE WERE INVESTING IN THE PARK, UM, IT SHOULD BE THE 9 MILLION OR THE FEES, WHICHEVER IS HIGHER, THEY COULD SWITCH, UM, DEVELOPMENT TO RESIDENTIAL IN SOME WAY OR DO SOME OTHER THINGS. UM, AND DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THINGS, THAT CALCULATION COULD BE HIGHER THAN THAT. UM, SO THAT 9 MILLION SHOULD REALLY MEET A MINIMUM THAT WE ARE EXPECTING. SO HOWEVER WE RESOLVE THAT, I WOULD ASK THAT WE, UM, ADDRESS IT THAT WAY AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE THAT OUR COMMUNITY PLACES ON THAT PARK SPACE, WHICH IS I THINK THE INTENTION BEHIND YOU'RE MOVING IT TO THE OTHER AREA. RIGHT? AND IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, OBVIOUSLY, IF, IF WE'RE TRYING TO PLACE A $2.1 MILLION DELTA, WE COULD PLACE THAT IN ADDITIONAL PARK FEES AND SETTING IT THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT, WE COULD TAKE THE 2.1 MILLION AND PUT IT TOWARD, UH, ENHANCED, UH, ENTRANCE AS COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN HAD, WE COULD CHALLENGE THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2.1 MILLION, I THINK ALL THOSE THREE THINGS IN FRONT OF US AND ARE MOVING ALL THOSE THINGS TO THE, TO THE FINANCE PRIORITY QUESTION. YES. UM, I JUST WANNA REMIND US THAT GRANTING THEM THESE ENTITLEMENTS IS OUR CHOICE AND THEY'RE NOT ENTITLED TO THESE ENTITLEMENTS. UM, AND SO WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOT TO JUST TAKE EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY AND TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO. UM, AND I THINK THAT WE MAY NEED TO EXERCISE THAT SOME GIVEN WHAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY. AND THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY SAYING WE COULD CHALLENGE THE ONES, SAM, THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT. MY MY COMMENT WAS NOT, WAS NOT DIRECTED AT YOU. OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT QUESTION THEN IS THE TIMING OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION QUESTION. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SIX. SO MAYOR, THIS JUST HAD TO DO WITH, UH, AS, AS WE HEARD LAST TIME, THE STAFF END AGREEMENT WITH A PHASED, UM, PARKLAND DEDICATION SCHEME OF, OF THREE PHASES. UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, HAD AN ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, YOU REGARDLESS AT AT YEAR NINE, ALL THE PARKLAND WOULD NEED TO BE DEDICATED. SO IT VARIES FROM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE AGREEMENT THAT THE, UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE UH, APPLICANT ARE WORKING ON AND, UH, JUST HAS AN ULTIMATE DEADLINE THAT SAYS THAT NINE YEARS, CORRECT, IT OCCURS NO MATTER WHAT, WHETHER STATION STATION AS IT DEVELOPS A PROPERTY PLANNING COMMISSION SAID, BUT IN ANY EVENT, YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALL IN YEAR NINE, CORRECT? APPLICANT. DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT? SO PARKLAND IS NOT DUE UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY HAVE YOUR DEVELOPMENT THAT TRIGGERS THE PARKLAND REQUIREMENT. THAT'S ONE ISSUE. SO WE WANNA TIE IT TO WHEN AS OUR PHASES GO ALONG AND OUR, WE TRIGGER THE PARKLAND, THEN WE'LL DONATE THE PARKLAND. THE OTHER ISSUE IS JUST BASIC LOGISTICS. IF WE DEDICATE THE PARKLAND TOO EARLY ALONG THE FRONTAGE THERE, AND THEN WE COME IN AND BUILD A BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE PARKLAND. ONE, THERE'S [06:25:01] A SAFETY ISSUE AND TWO, THERE'S AN ACCESS ISSUE AND WE'VE GOTTA PRESERVE THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET TO OUR PHASE TO BUILD IT WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE PARKLAND AT THAT POINT. SO IT'S, IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S A THING WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE IT, BUT THE TIMING IS WHEN IT'S SAFE AND WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE. OKAY. MAY PROAM. SO I APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR IT TO BE SAFE, UM, BUT THIS IS A POD AND THE WHOLE POINT OF A POD IS TO DEVIATE FROM THE CODE. AND SO WE ALSO CAN MAKE THE CHOICE THAT IT HAPPENS EARLIER. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY SOMETHING IS THE WAY THIS IS A POD AND WE HAVEN'T DONE A LOT OF PODS LATELY, SO I WANNA JUST BE CLEAR ON WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO IN TERMS OF OUR END OF THIS, THIS PROCESS. I WILL STIPULATE YOU CAN DO THAT AND I CAN ALWAYS SAY I'M NOT DOING THE PUT AND THAT AND THEN WE'RE AT AN IMPASSE. RIGHT? IS THERE A WORDING THAT YOU CAN DO THAT, THAT IF IT WAS DEDICATED TO YEAR NINE WOULD RESERVE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER THE ABILITY TO, UM, UM, UH, IMPACT ACCESS OR, OR, OR TO BE ABLE THE WAY WE DO ON STREETS WHERE WE CLOSE DOWN LANES TO HELP ADJACENT CONSTRUCTION, I BELIEVE. IS THERE A WAY TO DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT WOULD COVER THOSE TWO THINGS YOU MENTIONED? I BELIEVE THERE IS. I THINK YOUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND YOUR LAWYERS GET ANXIOUS ABOUT THAT, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY WE COULD DEDICATE IT WITH THE TOTAL RESERVATION TO COME BACK AND BE ABLE TO CLOSE ALL OR PART OF PORTIONS OF IT. UH, WOULD YOU WORK WITH OUR STAFF TO SEE YOU'RE THE BEST SHOT IN TERMS OF AGREEMENT ON THAT LANGUAGE? SURE. WHETHER THE LANGUAGE MIGHT BE, AND, AND JERRY, COULD YOU SEE IF OUR STAFF COULD ENGAGE IN THAT EXERCISE TO SEE WHETHER THAT IS FRUITFUL? WE HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION ON THE BARTON SPRINGS ROAD RIGHT AWAY. WE ARE PREPARED TO DEDICATE IT DAY ONE. WE'RE NOT TOO INTERESTED IN HAVING TO RENT IT BACK FROM THE CITY WHEN WE NEED TO CLOSE A LANE TO BRING IN A CRANE OR, OR DO STAGING. RIGHT. WHICH MAKES SENSE. WOULD YOU WORK JERRY ALSO WITH SIMILAR LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO BAR SPRINGS ROAD? LET'S SEE IF WE CAN PAPER THAT QUESTION. UH, SERGEANT POLL, UM, THE NORTH BURNETT GATEWAY, UM, AMENDMENT THAT I BROUGHT EARLIER THIS YEAR KIND OF ADDRESSES THIS UPTOWN ATX HAD AN ISSUE WITH NEEDING TO USE THE LAND BEFORE, UH, DEDICATING THE PARK. AND SO THE CITY HAS SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS AND WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE'VE HANDLED IT IN THESE OTHER MORE RECENT CIRCUMSTANCES AS A GOOD PULL. I REMEMBER THAT YOU DID THAT. SO CHECK AND SEE IF THAT'S A POSSIBLE FORM OR INFORMS THIS. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT QUESTION IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PARK MAINTENANCE. IS THIS JUST STRAIGHT UP A FINANCE QUESTION OR ARE THERE OTHER ISSUES OTHER THAN THAT? YES, IT'S SIMPLY MATTER OF WHO PAYS FOR THE PARKLAND MAINTENANCE. OKAY. THE APPLICANT VERSUS, UM, THE CITY THROUGH WHATEVER MECHANISM. AND THEN WHAT IS THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? I RECALL IT WAS LIKE $600,000 A YEAR. I THINK WE JUST, UH, WAS THE COST MCNELEY JUST WORKED ON THOSE NUMBERS. SO SHE HAS, I THINK WE GOT THEM ON TUESDAY. SO THE ROUGH NUMBERS ARE, AND I'LL NEED HELP FROM, UM, FROM RICHARD SULE WITH REGARDS TO THE APPLICANTS ESTIMATE. BUT THE ROUGH NUMBERS ARE 600,000 FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THAT WAS THE ESTIMATE TO HAVE DEDICATED STAFF TO MAINTAIN IT AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. THE, UH, A THIRD PARTY ENTITY THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A RELATIONSHIP, UH, ESTIMATED AT ABOUT $900,000, UH, ANNUALLY. AND I DON'T, I THOUGHT THAT THE APPLICANT SAID SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ONE AND 1.2 MILLION, BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HIM. SO, OR FOR THEM SO THEY CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEIR ESTIMATE WAS TO, UH, TO MAINTAIN THAT SPACE. DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH FEEL FOR WHAT THE COST WOULD BE IF YOU MAINTAINED IT? YES, WE EXTRAPOLATED FROM MAINTENANCE OVER AT REPUBLIC SQUARE AND OUR NUMBER IS ABOUT 2.2 TO 3 MILLION BUCKS A YEAR. OKAY. WHY THE DIFFERENTIAL? DO YOU KNOW WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENTIAL THERE BETWEEN 600 901.2 AND 2.2? I I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THE NUMBERS, BUT I'M GUESSING THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS STAFF AND CREWS READY TO GO, WHEREAS WE'D BE THIRD PARTY FARMING IT OUT. OKAY. IS MY GUESS. BUT I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S, GO AHEAD KATHY. YEAH, I THINK WE, WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE ECONOMIES, UH, THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT COULD REALIZE AT OUR WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY, BUT THAT'S QUITE A DIFFERENTIAL. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ABOUT TWICE AS MUCH. RIGHT? SO IN THE BACKUP THAT WE PROVIDED IN THE QUESTION AND ANSWERS THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU, THE THIRD PARTY ENTITIES THAT HELPED US PUT TOGETHER THOSE NUMBERS, THAT $900,000 NUMBER INCLUDED THE [06:30:01] TRAIL FOUNDATION INCLUDED, UM, TBG, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TBG INCLUDED REPRESENTATION FROM THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE, UH, AS IT RELATES TO REPUBLIC SQUARE AND SOME OTHER EXPERTS IN THE FIELD. SO I I COULD CERTAINLY ASK THEM HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO, UM, IN YOUR BACKUP, IT ACTUALLY SHOWS YOU AND I, I'M, I'M NOT, I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING A CONTRARY AND LIKE SAYING LOOK AT YOUR BACKUP, BUT I COULD CERTAINLY PROVIDE YOU IN A, IN A SEPARATE RESPONSE, UM, ADDITIONAL DETAIL THAT WOULD HELP YOU, UH, WITH THAT QUESTION. SIFT THROUGH THAT QUESTION. DIRECTOR MCNELEY, WE JUST, WE ALL HAVE SO MUCH INFORMATION. I THINK I HAVE ABOUT A HALF FOOT, MAYBE A FOOT WORTH OF PAPER HERE. CAN YOU JUST TELL ME, WAS IT IN THE, WHAT'S THE BEST SOURCE AT THE MOMENT? I SEE SOME INFORMATION HERE IN THE Q AND A ABOUT, ABOUT PARKS MAINTENANCE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DESCRIBING A CHART, RIGHT? SO AS PART OF THAT, AS PART OF THE, UM, ANSWER TO THE QUESTION AND THE QUESTION AND ANSWER, THERE WERE TWO CHARTS THAT WERE SENT TO YOU ALSO THAT, THAT OUTLINED HOW THOSE COSTS WERE. BUT I I CAN, AGAIN, I CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU AND I'M SURE THEY'RE HERE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY ARE. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT IN LIKE THIS, THE NARRATIVE Q AND A, THEY'RE PART OF THE ATTACHMENTS, RIGHT? THERE WAS A NARRATIVE Q AND A WITH TWO ATTACHMENTS REALLY WOULD YOU VISIT OR WHOEVER IT IS ON YOUR STAFF THAT DID THOSE CUSTOMERS WITH THE APPLICANT AND WITH THE APPLICANT VISIT WITH THE PERSON IN THE PARK DEPARTMENT THAT WAS COMING UP THOSE NUMBERS TO SEE IF, AS YOU COMPARE NUMBERS WITH EACH OTHER, THERE'S KIND OF A CONSENSUS FEEL FOR WHAT THE COST MIGHT BE. SURE. FOR THOSE DIFFERENT, I MEAN WE'RE COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES IN SOME RESPECTS, PERHAPS SOME APPLES TO APPLES. CAN YOU DO THAT AND THEN REPORT BACK TO US? ABSOLUTELY. APPLICANT. ARE YOU OKAY DOING THAT EXERCISE? I THINK IT PROBABLY, IT'S GONNA, THE DIFFERENCES WILL BE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND LEVEL OF PAYMENT AND ALL THAT KINDA STUFF WE UNDERSTAND. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IN THE FINANCE COLUMN WHEN I'M, WHEN WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS, SURE. THAT MIGHT BE RELEVANT. WELL, AND IT'S AN ADDED EXPENSE THAT WE HADN'T COUNTED ON BECAUSE WE WERE, WE'RE THINKING WE WERE GONNA GIVE IT TO THE CITY, BUILD IT FOR THE CITY, AND MAINTAIN IT FOR THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY HAS GENERAL FUND MONEY TO DO THAT. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IS, IS SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT NOW CREATE ANOTHER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OR PARKS DIGGER DISTRICT OVER THE TOP OF US. THAT DOESN'T SOLVE IT EITHER, BECAUSE THAT JUST IS ANOTHER ADDED COST. HOWEVER, WE ARE IN THE DAA DISTRICT, THEIR NUMBER IS AN EYE POPPING NUMBER AT BUILD OUT AND MAYBE THEY COULD HELP, UM, MAINTAIN IT OR YOU TAKE US OUT OF THEIR DISTRICT AND PUT US IN OUR OWN DISTRICT AND THEN WE COULD MAINTAIN IT. FOR NOW I'M MOVING IT TO THE FUNDING ISSUES AND PRIORITIES SECTION, WHICH I IMAGINE WILL BE THE VERY LAST SECTION THAT WE DEAL WITH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE PART I MADE THIS QUESTION, MARY, THAT I HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR MISS MCNELEY, UM, WHO PAYS FOR THE GROVE'S MAINTENANCE OF THEIR PARK? THE, THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER OF THE GROVE PAYS FOR THE MAINTENANCE, BUT I'M NOT, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP THE EXACT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY PAY. I DON'T, I'M NOT FAMILIAR. I JUST HAVE TO FIND OUT. THANK YOU. UM, SO WE HAVE PRECEDENT AND PAST PUDS THAT WE'VE DONE RECENTLY WHERE THERE'S BEEN A PARK, PARTICULARLY WHERE THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORS, UM, REALLY VALUE THAT PARK FOR THE MAINTENANCE TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE LANDOWNER. UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE A PARTNER HERE IN THE TRAIL FOUNDATION AND UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE EXPENSES SHOULD NOT BE BORN BY THEN. THEY'RE TAKING OVER, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE TRAIL. SO THIS GETS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED, BUT IT ALSO MEANS THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FOR SHARING OF HOW THAT HAPPENS. BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF LOGISTICS, UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PRESUMPTION SHOULD BE THAT YOU BUILD A PARK THAT YOU HAVE TO DEDICATE IN ORDER TO GET YOUR ENTITLEMENTS AND THEN THE CITY HAS TO TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAINING IT. UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT FOR SOMETHING THAT SIZE AND THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO MOVE TO, YEAH, ELLIS, JUST QUICKLY, I I DO APPRECIATE THAT SENTIMENT AND WHEN WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, I JUST WANNA BE MINDFUL OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN UH, IF IT'S PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, HOW MUCH LEVERAGE WE HAVE AS PUBLIC TO, TO DICTATE WHAT ACTIVITIES HAPPEN THERE. SO I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S A PERFECT ANSWER, BUT I'M JUST IN MY MIND SAYING THE MORE WE SAY IT SHOULD BE PRIVATELY FUNDED, THE MORE WE MIGHT GIVE UP OUR ABILITY TO HAVE PUBLIC EVENTS OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE DICTATE AS A COUNCIL THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE OUT OF IT. OKAY. AND I THINK WE HAVE RULES FOR THE, FOR THE TRAIL THAT'S PART OF THEIR, UM, AGREEMENT. AND IN THE CASE OF THE GROVE, THERE ARE, THERE IS A PARKLAND AGREEMENT THAT GOVERNS ALL OF THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN CONTROL OVER THINGS LIKE CONCESSIONS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO ABSOLUTELY WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT. UM, BUT I THINK WE HAVE MODELS THAT, THAT DO [06:35:01] DO THAT. UM, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S AN INSURMOUNTABLE ISSUE, BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE AND I'M GLAD YOU RAISED IT. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S GO INTO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS, UH, I REMEMBER EIGHT, UH, PARKING GARAGE. SO LEMME ASK YOU IF YOU RECALL, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED, UM, AS PART OF THE PUT APPLICATION TO PUT 95% OF THE PARKING UNDERGROUND. SO THERE'D BE 5% ON THE SURFACE FOR THINGS LIKE DOOR DASH AND DROPOFFS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE REST WOULD ALL BE ENTIRELY UNDERGROUND AS WE HEARD FROM THE CITY'S ECONOMIC CONSULTANT. THE COST OF THAT, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT WAS ABOUT 70 MILLION, UH, TO THE STAFF. IT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF, UM, OUR RECOMMENDING THE PUT AS PART OF, UH, BEING A SUPERIOR PROJECT. UH, THE REASON BEING, THERE IS NO CODE REQUIREMENT TO PUT PARKING UNDERGROUND. IT IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE, UM, WAY YOU CAN DO PARKING IS TO PUT IT UNDERGROUND. AND WE ARE REALLY CONCERNED, THE STAFF IS REALLY CONCERNED FROM AN URBAN DESIGN, AESTHETIC AMENITIES STANDPOINT OF HAVING A PODIUM TYPE BUILDING AS WE SEE IN OTHER PLACES DOWNTOWN, WE DID NOT WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, A SEVEN, EIGHT STORY, MAYBE HIGHER PARKING GARAGE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE BUTLER TRAIL. SO TO US, THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO PUT THE PARKING UNDERGROUND THAT THE AKIN HAS AGREED TO, UM, IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PROJECT. OKAY. , CAN, UM, MR. RESTO GONNA HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO APOLOGIZE. I HAVE TO SWITCH TO VIRTUAL HERE IN A MINUTE IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE, UM, CUZ I HAVE A, AN EVENT I NEED TO BE AT AT SIX O'CLOCK. SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF THE PARKING GARAGE WILL STILL BE ABOVE GROUND EVEN THOUGH SOME OF IT WILL BE, OH, 5% OF THE TOTAL SPACES WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE ABOVE GROUND? 95% WOULD BE UNDER. HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT, UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED OF ME FROM CONSTITUENTS, WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE PARKING GARAGE? WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE PARKING? UM, THE, THE PARKING PIECE OF THAT STRUCTURE THAT EXTENDS ABOVE, ABOVE GROUND. SO FOR THE HOW MUCH HEIGHT, HOW MUCH 5% HOW MUCH HEIGHT? YEAH, HOW MUCH OF THAT FIVE, WHAT IS THE 5% EQUATE TO IN HEIGHT? UM, I WOULD'VE TO FROM GROUND DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON, ON THAT. I ANTICIPATED IT BEING NONE, BUT I THINK I WOULD'VE TO CHECK FROM THAT AND YES. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT THAT QUESTION PLEASE. I THINK I HEARD THE QUESTION, BUT CAN YOU REPEAT IT? SURE. UM, MR. RESTO WAS SAYING THAT 5%, ONLY 5% OF THE PARKING CAN BE BE ABOVE GROUND BASED ON YOUR PROPOSAL OR IS INTENDED TO BE ABOVE GROUND BASED ON YOUR PROPOSAL. HOW DOES, WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE TO IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT ABOVE GROUND? WELL, LIKE HOW, HOW MUCH PARKING IS STILL GONNA BE ABOVE THAT? WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE WE PUT IT ON THE SITE. ON ONE END IT COULD BE FIVE LEVELS. THERE ARE ALL VISITING, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT FIVE LEVELS. WE PUT IT ON ONE END. BUT IT'S, IT'S, UM, THERE'S NO WAY TO CALCULATE HOW MUCH MORE HEIGHT BECAUSE IT COULD BE ANYWHERE IN THE SITE. IT'S JUST THAT ABOUT 200 SPACES ARE GONNA BE SOMEWHERE PROBABLY NOT IN THE BELOW GRADE GARAGE. SO WHAT, SEE, WE'RE NOT DESIGNING BUILDINGS YET. THAT'S THE HARD PART. WHAT IS THE, AND I UNDERSTAND AND, AND YOUR POINT IS BECAUSE THE GRADE CHANGES, NO, WHY WOULD IT BE FIVE? WHY WOULD IT BE FIVE LEVELS IN ONE SPOT BUT LESS THAN FIVE LEVELS IN A DIFFERENT, CAUSE? THIS IS A MONOLITHIC GARAGE. THE FIRST OF THE 4,000 SPACES, THE 95% OF 'EM, IT'S ON ONE MONOLITHIC GARAGE UNDERGROUND. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE TWO, LET'S JUST SAY THAT'S THE FLAT LEVEL. YOU MIGHT HAVE 200 SPACES OVER HERE OR YOU MIGHT HAVE 200 SPACES SPREAD OUT MORE AND THEY ONLY GO UP TWO OR THREE LEVELS. OKAY. AND SO YOU DON'T KNOW YET WHETHER THEY WOULD ALL BE, WHETHER THEY WOULD ALL, WHETHER THEY WOULD BE SPREAD ACROSS THE WHOLE THING OR JUST ALL STACKED? IF THEY'RE ALL STACKED, I GUESS WHAT'S THE, I DON'T WANNA SAY WORST CASE SCENARIO CUZ THAT IMPLIES A JUDGMENT, BUT WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE HIGHEST CASE SCENARIO IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF THAT 5% THAT'S GROUND FIVE. FIVE LEVELS. FIVE LEVELS, OKAY. MM-HMM. . AND WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM? TWO. TWO. OKAY. TWO LEVELS. TWO LEVELS. TWO LEVELS. FIVE, TWO LEVELS. FIVE LEVELS OR TWO LEVELS? TWO. ALL GUYS TWO LEVELS. TWO LEVELS. TWO LEVELS WOULD BE THE MINIMUM. FIVE WOULD BE THE HIGHEST WOULD BE, SO THE MAXIMUM LEVELS OF PARKING ABOVE GROUND YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE WOULD BE TWO LEVELS. TWO LEVELS. SO FIVE LEVELS IS NOT A IS NOT CONTEMPLATED. OKAY. OKAY. . ALL RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, AND I THINK IT WAS YOU COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN WHO BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SUCH A HIGH PRICE TAG AND, AND AS WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT BENEFITS THAT ARE INCLUDED AND THE REAL INTEREST THAT SEVERAL OF US HAVE IN [06:40:01] GETTING TO HIGHER LEVELS OF AFFORD LOWER LEVELS OF AFFORDABILITY AND A HIGHER NUMBER OF UNITS, UM, THIS ONE IS, IS ONE I REALLY WANNA WANT TO UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, AS I HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS AND MANY OF YOUR OTHER OFFICES MAYBE TOO, I MEAN, WHAT I'M HEARING IS A REAL INTEREST IN, IN SEEING MORE HOUSING, EVEN IF IT COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE PARKING GARAGE. SO I'LL JUST, UM, I'LL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. WELL, AND, AND I'LL THROW THIS OUT HERE AND I, IT ALWAYS SOUNDS SO AWFUL WHEN YOU SAY STUFF LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S TRUE. WE, WE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD AND WE FOUND THAT THE ONE THING THAT MAKES WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENTS GREAT IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE PARKING GARAGES ON THE WATERFRONT. SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'RE NOT BUILDING ONE WITH GARAGES ABOVE GROUND. SO, UM, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I THINK HAS ARISEN, AND I DON'T WANNA JUMP INTO WHAT, WHAT REALLY WERE SOME GOOD POINTS COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN RAISED LAST TIME, BUT DO YOU NEED AS MUCH PARKING AS YOU'RE BUILDING ON SITE? I THINK IS THE OTHER QUESTION THAT MANY OF US HAVE HAVE ASKED. WE BELIEVE WE DO. AND THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN PART BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS WILL BE A TRANSIT RICH SITE, SO WE'RE ALREADY TAKING A REDUCTION IN, IN THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY BUILD. ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD HAPPEN AND, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO, BUT IF WE BUILT INDIVIDUAL GARAGES FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL BUILDING, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUILD MORE PARKING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SHARE ON A MONOLITHIC GARAGE UNDERGROUND, YOU CAN SHARE. SO WE ARE ALREADY TAKING A PRETTY SABLE REDUCTION IN PARKING SPACE. ONE BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT UNDERGROUND, AND TWO, BECAUSE WE'RE NEAR THE TRANSIT AND WE THINK WE CAN, WE CAN CROSS POLLINATE WITH THE VARIOUS USES. IT'S THE OTHER REASON IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND RETAIL SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE MIX OF USES ON THE PARKING. AND CAN YOU REMIND ME WHERE, AND AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IN THE PROPOSAL, BUT, UM, HOW MANY SPOTS ARE YOU INCLUDING AND HOW MANY ARE YOU REQUIRED TO INCLUDE? ARE YOU REQUIRE, ARE YOU INCLUDING MORE SPOTS, MORE PARKING SPOTS THAN YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED UNDER CODE? NO LESS. THERE'S ALSO A THIRD COMPONENT THAT PEOPLE OFTEN DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. THERE'S CODE REQUIRED PARKING AND THEN THERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO AND THEN WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET YOUR FINANCING. IT'S JUST, IT'S RIGHT. AND FINANCIAL MARKETS ARE STILL SAYING THEY, THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO PARK IT. AND IS THAT PART OF WHAT STRIVE, SO IF, IF THIS COUNCIL DECIDED, LOOK, WE DON'T WANNA SEE AS MUCH PARKING ON THAT SITE, WE WANNA SEE A LOT LESS BECAUSE WE WANNA SEE, WE WANNA SEE YOU TAKE SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT WOULD'VE OTHERWISE BEEN SPENT ON THE GARAGE AND PUT IT TOWARD, TOWARD THE HOUSING COMPONENT. IS THE INVESTMENT PIECE OF THIS IS THE INVEST, ARE THE INVESTORS DRIVING SOME OF THE PARKING CHOICES, INVESTORS AND PRACTICALITY? WE'RE NOT GONNA BUILD A PROJECT THAT WON'T WORK AND WE KNOW IT'LL WORK. I MEAN THE DEVELOPERS KNOW IT'LL WORK IN, IN THAT, UM, YOUR CONSUMERS MOSTLY WANT PARKING STILL, IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? THEY WANT A CERTAIN AMOUNT. AND WOULD YOU SAY THOSE ARE MOSTLY THE RESIDENTIAL CONSUMERS OR, I I THINK IT'S A MIX AND PROBABLY MOSTLY THE OFFICE. BUT UM, REMEMBER, DEVELOPERS GENERALLY DON'T LIKE TO BUILD PARKING. THAT'S, IT'S NOT THEIR PREFERRED. I MEAN, IT IS MONEY THAT GOES INTO THE GROUND AND IT DOESN'T PRODUCE THE REVENUE THAT THE SPACE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE, WE JUST WANT TO DO IT, IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TO. AND JUST, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S UM, OFFICE TENANTS, MAYBE THE RESIDENTIAL TENANTS ABOUT RIGHT. WHO CONTINUED TO AND THE AND THE RETAIL. AND THE RETAIL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU KAISER. OUR KITCHEN, UH, UH, AND I, UH, JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER, CUZ WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. WAS IT 30% RE I'M SORRY, I CAN'T REMEMBER. WHAT WAS THE REDUCTION OF PARKING? 35% REDUCTION. 35% REDUCTION. OKAY, SO IT'S A 35% REDUCTION. WHAT, WHAT LEVEL OF REDUCTION PUTS YOU AT RISK ON YOUR FINANCING? 35%. SO YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU'RE RIGHT UP RIGHT. BUMPED UP AGAINST 35% A COMBINATION OF WHAT WE KNOW WE NEED FOR THE PROJECT TO WORK AND TO GET THE FINANCING IS THE 35% I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FINANCING. SO IF YOU, IF YOU PUT YOUR PARKING AT 36 OR 37% REDUCTION, YOU WOULDN'T GET THE FINANCING. MAYBE THAT'S TOO WAY. I THINK YOU'D USED A BIGGER NUMBER. YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD, I DO BELIEVE IT'D BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE REMEMBER IF WE, IF WE THOUGHT WE COULD GET AWAY WITH LESS, WE'D DO, WE'D DO A 50% REDUCTION, BUT WE KNOW THAT WON'T WORK. [06:45:01] I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO ASCERTAIN WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH YOU MAY HAVE EXPLORED, UM, HOW MUCH YOU COULD REDUCE AND STILL GET THE FINANCING. THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M ASKING. WE, WE THINK WE'RE ABOUT RIGHT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S BASED ON THE FINANCIAL MARKETS NOW AND THE EXPERIENCE OF THE DEVELOPERS AND WHAT WE KNOW TO BE THE MARKET. OKAY. SO WE HAVEN'T, HAVEN'T REQUESTED IT OR ANYTHING. AGAIN, WE'D RATHER NOT BUILD IT, BUT WE HAVE TO. OKAY. AND THEN LET ME MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, UM, THE, THE TWO FLOORS, I'M SORRY, I JUST COULDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MAXIMUM OF TWO FLOORS ABOVE GRADE? IS THAT WHAT, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? OH YEAH. JUMPING, UM, A COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. IT, IT WOULD LOOK TO BE THE 5% COULD BE UP TO TWO LEVELS OF ABOVE GRADE PARKING. OKAY. BUT I HAVE AN AGREEMENT, WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING IT ACTUALLY WHILE THIS DISCUSSION WAS GOING ON THAT WE'RE GONNA BE INCORPORATING SOME ORDINANCE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PORTION OF THE ABOVE GROUND PARKING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT 5% IS WRAPPED BY BUILDING. SO IT WOULD NOT AGAIN, BE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A PARKING LOT, A PARKING GARAGE ON THE WATERFRONT. YEAH, JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, BECAUSE THE GROUND IS LOWER. SO ARE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE GROUND ITSELF BELOW THE GROUND? YEAH, THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE LEVELS BELOW THE GROUND AND POSSIBLY TWO LEVELS ABOVE THE GROUND. BUT THOSE TWO LEVELS WOULD BE WRAPPED BY BUILDING, THEY'D BE INTERNAL TO THE BUILDING SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ON THE EDGE WITH THE UGLY CEMENT WALKER. SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE, THE LEVEL OF THE TOP OF THE HILL OR THE LEVEL OF THE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, OF THE, UM, CONGRESS OR ANYTHING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY WHERE THE GROUND ABOUT FIVE LEVELS BELOW THE GROUND AND POSSIBLY TWO ABOVE IN CERTAIN PLACES, BUT WRAPPED BY A BUILDING. EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD, I'M NOT SURE FOR ME THAT I SEE THIS IS A FRUITFUL AREA TO TRY AND CHANGE. I AGREE WITH STAFF THAT WE CAN PUSH THE PARKING UNDERGROUND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE, THE PUBLIC EXPERIENCE IN THAT AREA AND ON THE PARKS AND ON THE TRAIL BETTER. UM, I HATE LOOKING AT PARKING GARAGES AND I THINK PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING QUESTION. MAY, MAY, I JUST WANNA GET A SENSE OF OUR, OUR PLAN. UM, WE HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE FOR APPROXIMATIONS AND I JUST WANNA GET A SENSE OF, OF OUR TIMING TRY AND DO, IF WE COULD, IS PUSH THROUGH CUZ I'M A CONS, I'M NOT SURE BREAKING FOR LUNCH, BEEN BREAKING FOR DINNER, COMING BACK. IF WE ONLY HAVE 10 MINUTES OR SO LEFT TO DO, I WOULD KEEP GOING. I JUST WASN'T SURE WHAT THE PLAN WAS. I'M SORRY, WHAT? SO YOU WANNA TAKE 10 MINUTES AND SEE IF WE GET YEAH, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN PUSH THROUGH. OKAY. ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO, AS I JUST CONFIRMED IS OKAY LOOKING AT 4 22, ALTHOUGH SHE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ON SITE IS OKAY WITH FOUR, TWO KIDS IN THE DISTRICT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US TAKE THE $23 MILLION AND, AND LET STAFF RUN WITH IT, BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO COMPROMISE ON 4 22. AND MY SENSE IS THAT'S PROBABLY KIND OF WHERE THE, THE, THE, THE, THE WILL OF THE DAIS IS ON 4 22. UM, IF THAT'S TRUE, ANYBODY FEELS DIFFERENTLY, LET ME KNOW. BUT I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF THE DIRECTION TO GO TO. AND THEN THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND WHAT KIND OF UNITS, UH, ARE THERE, UH, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AT 80%, UH, MFI, UM, 70 UNITS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN THERE. THE, THE 5% AT UH, 70 UNITS AT 80%. WE ALSO ASKED WHAT WOULD BE AT 60%. APPLICANT SAID 36 UNITS. I ASKED THE QUESTION, COULD WE GET MORE UNITS IF YOU PUT MORE MONEY THERE, UM, BEYOND THE 23.2 MILLION. I THINK THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE QUESTION. SO I PUT THAT QUESTION IN THE FUNDING ISSUES AND PRIORITIES QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S A DOLLAR QUESTION. WHERE DO WE WANT EXTRA DOLLARS TO BE SPENT OR WHERE DO WE WANT, WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITY FOR WHERE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ARE SPENT? THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL ISSUE THOUGH THAT HAS COME UP ON THIS THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR COLLEAGUES. I, I CHECK WITH THE APPLICANT TO CONFIRM THAT WE COULD GET INTO THOSE 4 22 UNITS MUCH MORE QUICKLY THAN WE COULD GET THEM ON SITE OR GET THEM NEARBY. IF THEY WOULD DO IT ON SITE, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, OVER A CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, IT COULD BE 5, 10, 15 YEARS. 4 22 WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE. THE APPLICANT RAISED THE QUESTION, WELL IF WE MAKE IT IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE CITY DOESN'T DO ITS OBLIGATIONS TO BUILD BARTON SPRINGS ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, AND PUT IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO THE APPLICANT SAID EITHER WE NEED, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA [06:50:01] BUILD THE, THE, THE ROAD AND DO THE THINGS THAT THE CITY'S DOING TO DRIVE THE AFFORDABILITY, THEN WE NEED TO GET THOSE UNITS BACK. AND THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES. ONE WAS AN AUTOMATIC CLAWBACK IF THE CITY ELECTED NOT TO PROCEED WITH THE CAPITAL FINANCING NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS AT THIS POINT THE TOUR. CAUSE THERE'S NOT AN ALTERNATIVE THAT STAFF HAS PRESENTED TO US. UM, UM, SO THERE'S EITHER A CLAWBACK OR WAIT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE READY TO DO IT AS SOON AS WE DO THE TOUR AND THEN WHEN YOU DO THE TOURS THEN, THEN WE WOULD GET IT. I LAID OUT BOTH THOSE OPTIONS ON C IN IN NINE C THOSE TWO OPTIONS THAT THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT AS THE WAY TO HANDLE GIVING US THE AFFORDABLE UNITS EFFECTIVELY. YOU KNOW, NOW ARE MUCH, MUCH, MUCH SOONER THAT I DESCRIBE THAT CORRECTLY. YES. OKAY. I DUNNO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR ME THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST. WE CAN'T GET THE UNITS AND THEN NOT PERFORM WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE CITY TO DO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET THE UNITS, WHICH IN MY MIND GOES TO THE QUESTION THAT THE COMMUNITY'S BEEN ASKING, WHICH IS WHY ARE WE BUILDING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND IS IT A BENEFIT TO THE DEVELOPER? AND I WOULD CONTINUE TO REPEAT THAT. WE'RE INVESTING PUBLIC FUNDS HERE BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT WE GET NOT BENEFIT FROM THE DEVELOPER. THE ENTITLEMENTS THE DEVELOPERS GETTING IS WHAT ENABLES THE DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO GIVE US THE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT WE WANT. UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHY WE DO IT. OBVIOUSLY IF WE DON'T PERFORM THEN, THEN I UNDERSTAND THAT THE UNITS WOULDN'T GO MAYOR PROTE. SO AT WHAT POINT DO WE DEFINE WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE AND WHAT THE TERMS IS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND FOR SEVERAL OF THESE MEETINGS I'VE BEEN ASKING THAT IS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO ASSESS, UM, ALL THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT WE'RE GIVING AND, AND WHAT THEY'RE GETTING WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT VALUE IS BECAUSE, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT I HA CARE SHARE THE SAME EXACT INTERPRETATION AS YOU DO FULLY. ALTHOUGH THERE ARE PARTS OF THAT AND, AND CERTAINLY THE, THE BUILDING OF THE ROAD IS ONE PIECE OF THAT. UM, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME WE'D HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT FULFILLING OUR OBLIGATIONS WERE IN A WAY THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO ANYTIME SOON WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO WANT TO GET THIS POD PASSED. UM, AND I DON'T SEE US, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THEY WANTED TO PASS IT ON THE 27TH, I DON'T THINK WE KNOW WHAT GOES INTO THAT TERMS AND WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS AND, AND HOW YOU WOULD EVER COME UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT WOULD SATISFY THAT. UM, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT UNREALISTIC. IF THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT IN THERE, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RESOLVE THE TERMS OVER TIME. UM, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY THAT HAPPENS. SO I THINK THERE'S A GOOD POINT AND A GOOD QUESTION AND MAYBE RATHER THAN JUST SAYING TERRORS, MAYBE THERE ARE SPECIFIC, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UH, WOULD BE NEEDED IN ORDER FOR, UH, THE APPLICANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE PROJECT COULD GO FORWARD. OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA ARE FOR OTHER PROPERTIES AS WELL. UH, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THE WHOLE DISTRICT NEEDS TO BE BUILT OUT. IT'S GONNA BE NEEDED TO BE BUILT OUT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE SAME EXACTIONS OF OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE'RE MAKING HERE. BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S DIFFERENT. WHEN WE GRANT THE POD, WE SAY TO A PROPERTY OWNER, HERE'S THE POD, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN BUILD IF YOU WANT TO, BUT THERE'S NOT AN OBLIGATION TO BUILD THE POD. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD LOOK AT IT AND SAY, I APPRECIATE THE RIGHTS YOU'VE GIVEN ME. I'M, ECONOMIC CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED, WHATEVER IT IS, WE'RE NOT GONNA BUILD THE PROJECT. AT WHICH POINT I CAN UNDERSTAND AN APPLICANT SAYING, WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU WHO 70 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IF WE DON'T BUILD THE PROJECT, BUT IF WE DO BUILD THE PROJECT, WE'RE COMMITTING TO GIVE YOU 70 UNITS. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THEY'RE SAYING, BUT THEY'RE ALSO SAYING, WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE YOU THE 70 UNITS EVEN BEFORE WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE YOU THE 70 UNITS EARLIER IF THERE'S SOME PROTECTION FOR US ON THE BACKSIDE IN CASE THE PROJECT DOESN'T GO FORWARD AND THEY'RE NOT TYING THAT PERFORMANCE TO THEIR DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO GO FORWARD. THEY'RE TYING THAT TO CITY PERFORMING CERTAIN FUNCTIONS, WHICH I THINK IS, [06:55:01] IS A REASONABLE AND BETTER FOR THE CITY TO HAVE IT THAT WAY THEN IT'S WITHIN OUR CONTROL. UH, BUT TO THE MAYOR PRO TIM'S POINT, IF THERE'S A WAY TO DESCRIBE THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT GRANTING A TUR MEANS. THERE ARE A THOUSAND DIFFERENT WAYS THAT TUR CAN BE GRANTED. SO I THINK FOR EVERYBODY THERE NEEDS TO BE A DESCRIPTION OF EVENTUALITY IN A WAY THAT IS MORE OBJECTIVE AND MORE SPECIFIC. OKAY, MAYOR THEN HOW WOULD WE, I MEAN, WE COULD BUILD THE ROAD AND THEN THEY CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING. THEY WON'T BUILD ANYTHING. WE'LL HAVE TAKEN THEIR LAND, BUT YOU KNOW, THEN WE HAVE A ROAD TO NOWHERE ESSENTIALLY. I MEAN I THINK THE DEDICATION COMES, I MEAN I I I MORE WANTED TO RAISE THE QUESTIONS TO RAISES FOR THE FIRST TIME QUESTION THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THIS GOES BACK TO A QUESTION I'VE ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT GIVEN THIS PROCESS HOW WE'RE DOING THIS. SO LET'S ASK THE QUESTION WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID. YOU'RE OBLIGATING US TO BUILD A ROAD, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANYTHING AND NOW WE'VE BUILT A ROAD TO NOWHERE. WELL, WITH REGARD TO MEEM TO THE ROAD SPECIFICALLY, ASIDE FROM SERVING THE STATESMAN PROPERTY WOULD ALSO SERVE THE CROCKETT PROPERTY, THE HUNT PROPERTY AND THE BLUE LINE TRAIN STATION WITH THE POD APPROVAL. AT WHAT POINT DO THEY DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE ROAD? UM, WELL WE'RE WORKING OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. THAT WAS A PART OF ONE OF THE, THE THINGS ON OUR LIST, UH, WHAT THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO ENSURE IS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT AWAY. AND THEN SIMILAR TO THE PARKLAND ISSUE, THEN THEY COME BACK AND THEY'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY BEFORE WE BUILD THE ROAD. NORMALLY THE CITY WOULD WOULD RENT THAT TO THEM, BUT SINCE THEY'RE GIVING IT TO US, TO US IN THE FIRST PLACE, THEIR GOAL IS TO TRY AND DO SO LET, AT WHAT POINT DO THEY GO HARD ON GIVING US THE ROAD? I MEAN, I'M NOT, NOT THE MACHINATIONS INVOLVED IN WHO OWNS IT OR LEASES IT OR RENTS IT DURING CONSTRUCTION UHHUH, BUT THE DEDICATION IN ESSENCE COMES WITH THE COMMITMENT TO GIVE THE ROAD COMES WITH THE GRANTING OF THE POD. NO. YEAH. NORMALLY WOULD COME WITH EITHER A, A SUBDIVISION OR A SITE PLAN APPLICATION. OKAY. SO IT'S AT THAT POINT THAT THEY DEDICATE THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE SELLING TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE DOING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING RIGHT AWAY. NOW I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE THAT THE TERM ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ENDS IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING OR I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S JUST RIGHT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. I'M NOT UNDER, I'M NOT, THAT'S THEY'VE, THEY AND IT'S NOT MY PROPOSAL I'M REPORTING TO YOU. YES. AND THEY'VE SAID THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE US THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING EARLIER THAN WHAT ORDINARILY HAPPEN. BUT IF THE CITY DOESN'T PERFORM THEN THEY, BUT, YOU KNOW, TAKES TIME FOR US TO BUILD THE ROAD AND THE WHOLE ARGUMENT FOR DOING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OFF SITE WAS SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, VERY QUICKLY. I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM TIE IT TO THE BUILDING OF THE ROAD. I THINK WITH THE RIGHT THAT WE HAVE NO TERMS, WE HAVE NO MONEY IN THE CHAIRS WE HAVE, I MEAN WE HAVEN'T, WE SEEM VERY FAR FROM HAVING A JUROR. SO RIGHT. AGAIN, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE PIECES FIT TOGETHER. SOMEBODY PRO'S POINT IS WELL TAKEN. I THINK WE ALL WANTING TO GET TO THE SAME SPOT. IT'S JUST HOW WE GET THERE. SO WHETHER IT'S TOURS AND FUNDING FOR THE ROAD, YOU'RE BETTER OFF US BUILDING THE ROAD THAN YOU GUYS BUILDING THE ROAD. WE CAN BUILD THEM CHEAPER AND BETTER. I THINK WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT AS A DEVELOPER WANTED TO GET INTO THE SITUATION IS WE GIVE YOU X NUMBER OF UNITS AND THEN YOU EITHER DON'T BUILD THE ROAD OR YOU INCREASE THE PARK FEES TO 18 MILLION OR YOU JUST LIKE YOU ALMOST DID TODAY CREATE ANOTHER BUFFER ZONE ON OUR PROPERTY AND WE CAN'T DO OUR POD AND, BUT WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE UNITS. IF WE DO THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE UNITS, BUT IF YOU DO SOMETHING TO US, WE WANT 'EM BACK. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE THAT TOO. YOU WON'T SOLVE THE PROCESS, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM, YOUR BUFFER ZONE WE NEED YOU TO DRAFT. CAN YOU WORK IT'S IN WITH CAN YOU WORK WITH JURY TO DRAFT LANGUAGE TO DO THIS? YES. CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT BUT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND LOGISTICALLY HOW THAT REALLY WORKS. SURE. SO IF YOU GUYS COULD GET TOGETHER AND THEN GET THAT OUT TO US. SURE. SO WE CAN SEE THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE MECHANICS OF HOW THAT WORKS. THAT GETS US TO AFFORDABLE. WHAT WAS THE BUFFER ZONE AS I'M LOST ON WHAT? THAT I'M NOT WHERE YOU GUYS CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AFTERWARDS. WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT NOW. NOT ON MY LIST. AFFORDABLE COMMERCIAL RATE. UM, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YES, MAYOR, I'M SORRY. ARE YOU MOVING OUT FROM HOUSING? THIS IS KATHY. YES, KATHY. UM, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOUSING. ONE IS I MISSED A PIECE WHEN I WAS TRANSFERRING ONLINE AND SO I'M, I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE HOUSING AND THE ROAD, BUT I'LL GO BACK AND I'LL GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THAT PIECE. AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE, I THINK I UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE IS AN INTEREST IN, IN HAVING A MECHANISM TO GET THE [07:00:01] UNITS UNIT. I I THINK, I MEAN I UNDERST I HEARD MOST OF IT, SO I THINK I, I THINK I GET THE REQUEST. I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THERE WERE ALSO ADVANTAGES TO THE DEVELOPER OF MOVING THE SITE, OF MOVING THOSE UNITS OFFSITE TO A, A PLACE WHERE IT'S LESS COSTLY, UM, THAN CONSTRUCTING THEM ONSITE. AND SO I, I NEED TO BETTER THINK THROUGH THE, THE, THE BENEFITS AND UM, THE RELATIVE BENEFITS HERE. I HAD A QUESTION FOR OUR STAFF ABOUT THE MECHANISM FOR INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE TO MOVE FORWARD AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR HAVING THOSE UNITS AT 4 22, BUT IT'S NOT THE SITE THAT WE'RE REZONING. SO WHAT IS THE LEGAL MECHANISM THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE IF WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS DIRECTION TO CODIFY THAT THAT PIECE OF IT? IS IT A RESTRICTIVE CO IS IT A PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS IT, IS IT, DOES IT GET BUILT INTO THE POD ORDINANCE ITSELF? AND IF SO, HOW COUNCIL MEMBER, WE'RE WORKING TO FIGURE THAT OUT RIGHT NOW SHOULD WE DON'T HAVE ANSWER YET. OKAY. OKAY. I, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET SOME ANSWERS. I, I APPRECIATE THAT TRION. UM, THE SOONER, YOU KNOW, THE BETTER, UH, JUST BECAUSE I WANNA KNOW HOW, I THINK WE ARE GETTING THAT QUESTION QUITE A BIT AND I, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW, UM, WHETHER IT WOULD NEED TO BE TO BE YEAH. ANYWAY, IF YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE INFORMATION, IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ALSO HELP EVALUATE TIME CHOICE WILL DO. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR, FOR BEING ON TOP OF IT. OKAY. OH, MAYOR, I'M SORRY. YES. CANCER. GOOD JOB. I FORGOT TO ASK THIS QUESTION, UM, ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO I'M, I'M NOT SEEING IT HERE AND I MAYBE JUST BE MISSING IT, BUT THE, UM, THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RETAINING IT AS AFFORDABLE 40 YEARS OR 99 YEARS, STAFF IS SAYING 40 YEARS. IS THERE AN OPTION FOR LONGER THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING? WE'VE, UH, WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM FOR 40 YEARS. I THINK IF, IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE LONGER, WE'D HAVE TO, UH, ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AGAIN. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS A LENGTH OF TIME, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. SURE. SO HAS THE APPLICANT LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF GRANTING MORE YEARS? WE HAVE NOT. OKAY. WOULD YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND THEN REPORT BACK TO US. OKAY. AND IF MAY, ARE WE STILL ON HOUSING OR IS THAT FOR COMMERCIAL? NO, WE'RE STILL IN HOUSING. I THINK THAT'S, WE'RE STILL HOUSING THE OTHER ISSUE. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE DIFFERENCE IN, UH, BOTH THE NUMBER OF THE UNITS AND THE LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY. YES. IF THE PROPOSAL, IF THE PROPOSAL IS STILL AT 80, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER GAP. YES, WE HAVE THOSE. WE HAVE PERCENTAGE, NUMBER OF UNITS, MFI LEVEL AND TIMING AND WE'LL PUT ADD TO THAT IN, UH, THE FACTORS DURATION. SO ADD A FIFTH POINT THERE. OKAY. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. UM, AFFORDABLE COMMERCIAL RATE. SO MAYOR, UM, CONS, AS YOU RECALL, THE APP CAN AGREED TO PROVIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, UM, AFFORDABLE COMMERCIAL ON THE PROPERTY. UM, I DID SPEAK WITH THE, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TUESDAY AFTER THE WORK SESSION THEY WERE GOING TO CONSIDER. I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THEM YET, BUT I, I, I, UM, I WILL CHECK IN AGAIN WITH THEM. I DO HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY MAY BE OKAY WITH A 60% OF CLASS A MARKET RATE BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE BY COUNCIL RECENTLY ON ANOTHER PROJECT, BUT THEY SAID THAT, BUT YOU CHECK WITH THEM AND THEN REPORT BACK TO US. WILL DO AGAIN, SEND US AN EMAIL OR A DEAL. I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE THERE FROM THE APPLICANT STANDPOINT, IT'S JUST HAVE SOME CERTAIN NUMBER THAT THEY CAN PLUG INTO A PROFORMA. CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN OBJECTIVE NUMBER AND I ALWAYS WANNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLARIFYING THIS IS ON THE RETAIL SPACE, NOT ON THE OFFICE SPACE, GROUND FLOOR, RETAIL SPACE. OKAY. GROUND FLOOR RETAIL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. REFLECTIVITY, YOU HEARD, UH, ABAN PEOPLE TODAY SAY THEY WANTED TO HAVE THE 15%. UM, HERE WE HAVE AND UM, I DO NOT YET HAVE A RESPONSE FROM THE, UH, WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT WHERE THE FOLKS THAT WERE GONNA LOOK AT THE, THAT LETTER AND GONNA GET BACK TO US ON IT AND UM, ON IT. AND, UM, I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR FROM THAT RESPONSE ON THE REFLECTIVITY. YES. OKAY. CAN YOU ALSO THEN LET US KNOW ON THAT? SURE. WE'LL DO APPLICANT DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANNA ADD ON THAT? I DO. SO REMEMBER IN OTHER PARTS OF THE POD, YOU'RE ASKING US TO GET A LEAD CERTIFICATION. IN ORDER TO GET THE LEAD CERTIFICATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENERGY EFFICIENCY WITH THE NON-REFLECTIVE LAST YEAR ENERGY EFFICIENCY GOES DOWN, YOU USE MORE ELECTRICITY AND AS WE LEARNED TODAY, THE RATES ARE GOING UP. SO THIS IS ANOTHER DOLLAR FIGURE THING AND IT AFFECTS ANOTHER PROVISION OF THE CODE. IT'S, IT'S HARDER TO GET YOUR CERTIFICATION IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDINGS. SO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD COME TO SHORE ON ALL THAT WAS THE LOWER RE REFLECTIVITY DOWN LOW TREETOP LEVEL WHERE THE BIRDS ARE HIGHER REFLEXIVITY UP IN THE OFFICE BUILDINGS ABOVE. [07:05:01] WE THOUGHT WE HAD REACHED THAT, BUT JUST, JUST KNOW THAT WHEN YOU START DOING REFLEXIVITY ON THE WHOLE BUILDINGS, IT AFFECTS OTHER PARTS OF THE BUD. THANKS. OKAY, MAYOR? YES. I NEED TO CLARIFY. I NEED TO CLARIFY MR. SETTLE'S, UM, COMMENT. GO AHEAD MR. SETTLE SAYING, WERE YOU SAYING THAT IT THAT, UH, LESS REFLECTIVITY MAKES IT LESS ENERGY EFFICIENT? YES. OKAY. UM, ARE THERE, IS THERE A, IS THERE AN ABILITY OR ARE THERE EXAMPLES? THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THAT WE DON'T NEED TO ANSWER NOW, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHETHER THERE'S AN ABILITY TO GET, UH, LEAD CERTIFICATION WITH NON-REFLECTIVE GAS GLASS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THE EXAMPLES ARE OUT THERE OF, OF BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE BOTH. SURE. AND WERE YOU SAYING THAT THERE ARE EXAMPLES BUT IT'S JUST MORE COSTLY OR THAT IT'S JUST DIFFICULT TO IT'S JUST DIFFICULT FOR THOSE TWO THINGS TO ALIGN. UH, WE'LL CHECK WITH THE AUSTIN ENERGY STAFF ON THAT, BUT WHETHER THE, UH, REFLECTIVITY WOULD AFFECT THE OTHER GREEN STAR GREEN BUILDER OR, UM, LEAD, LEAD CERTIFICATION OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS THE SETBACKS, I THINK THAT GOES TO, ARE THERE VARIANCES IN THIS POD TO SETBACKS? THERE ARE, THERE ARE MAYOR, UM, THE STANDARD, UH, WATERFRONT OVERLAY SETBACK WOULD BE ONE 50. UH, THEY'VE AGREED TO KEEP IT AT ONE 50, HOWEVER, A PORTION OF THEIR PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY UNDERWATER UNDER LADY BIRD LAKE. UM, SO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING THERE IS TO HAVE THE SETBACK BE REDUCED TO 90 FEET. ESSENTIALLY, IT IS STILL THE SAME ONE 50 ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PROPERTY, BUT BECAUSE, UM, 60 FEET OF IT IS UNDERWATER, THEY'RE ASKING TO DO, HAVE IT BE 90 FEET AT THE PORTION WHERE THEIR PROPERTY IS UNDERWATER. SO INSTEAD OF STARTING, INSTEAD OF PULLING IT BACK AND GOING ONE 50 FROM WHERE THE, THE ACTUAL SHORELINE IS, THEY'RE ASKING TO, UM, BASICALLY, I CAN PUT THIS MAP UP IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT, BUT IT'D BE ONE 50 ACROSS EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THAT PORTION WHERE THE WATER PUSHES INTO THE PROPERTY, IF YOU WILL, AND THEY WOULD REDUCE IT TO 90. SO IT'S AT THAT, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME, THE SAME ONE 50 ACROSS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT EFFECT OF THE INUNDATION. AND IS THAT REQUIRE A VARIANCE? IT DOES. OKAY. AND WHAT DOES WATERSHED AND OUR STAFF THINK ABOUT THAT? UH, THEY WERE RECOMMENDING IT. THEY RECOMMEND THAT YES, MAY YES, COMES OUR KITCHEN. UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO THE SET SET, DO WE HAVE A DEFINITION OF SETBACK? A DEFINITION OF SETBACK? MM-HMM. . UM, IT JUST, IT SEEMS HIGHLY UNUSUAL TO ME, AND THAT'S WHY I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU WOULD START THE SETBACK, BUT I, I ALWAYS THOUGHT OF SETBACK AS STARTING AT THE WATER'S EDGE AS OPPOSED, OPPOSED TO, AND, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE MODIFICATION, BECAUSE WE NORMALLY BE ONE 50 FROM THE WATER'S EDGE INTO THE PROPERTY. AND SO FOR THE, A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THOUGH, THE WATER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, COMES, COMES IN CLOSER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO IT IS A VARIANCE. IT IS NOT COMPLYING WITH THE, IN THAT PART. IT'S TECHNICALLY, WE CALL IT A MODIFICATION, BUT YES, SAME THING. OKAY. FOR THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY, YES. FOR THE PORTION THAT THAT'S INUNDATED BY WATER, HOW MUCH OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE, HOW MUCH OF THE, UM, I'M SORRY. CAN I GO AHEAD AND PUT THE OVER OVERHEAD UP? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , IF YOU LIKE, WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, I'LL HOLD IT UP AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT OR NOT. IT'D BE ONE 50 HERE TO HERE. MM-HMM. ONE 50 FROM HERE TO HERE. BUT ON THIS PORTION, IF WE CONTINUE THE ONE 50, BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE WATER MM-HMM. . AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING INSTEAD IS TO GO 90 ON THIS PORTION FROM HERE TO HEAR, BECAUSE THE WATER, ACTUALLY, THEIR PROPERTY EXTENDS, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE WATER. WOULD YOU EXPLAIN IT AGAIN WITH WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN? SURE. SO IT WOULD BE THE PORTION, IF YOU FOLLOW THE, UH, THE, THE WATER LINE AND THERE'S A DASH LINE ALONG THE WATER LINE, THE PROP THAT IS THE, THE PROPERTY LINE. AND SO THAT PORTION WHERE THE DASH LINE EXTENDS BEYOND THE WHITE IS PORTION THAT'S UNDER, UNDER THE WATER. AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING ONE 50 FOR EVERYWHERE EXCEPT FOR THAT PORTION WHERE THEIR PROPERTY IS UNDER THE WATER, IN WHICH CASE THEY WOULD, THEY, THEY'RE ASKING TO DO 90 RIGHT THERE WHERE THE HAND IS. WHY DOES OUR WATERSHED PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH [07:10:01] THAT MODIFICATION? UM, HERE, THEY'RE NOT HERE TODAY RIGHT NOW. SO I COULD ASK THEM AND WE COULD ANSWER THAT NEXT TIME IF, WOULD YOU ASK THAT AND SEE IF THEY CAN GIVE US THAT ANSWER AS TO WHY THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THAT APPLICANT APPLICANT? DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT? CAN I HAVE A, CAN I ASK ONE? I'M, LET ME ASK THAT QUESTION HERE REAL FAST, THEN WE'RE GONNA COME BACK. OKAY? MM-HMM. . SO TO ANSWER IT, I'VE GOTTA GO BACK TO 1835 WHEN THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE WAS CONVEYED TO THE LANDOWNERS OUT OF THE STATE, OVER A SERIES OF MANY COURT CASES AND LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS, THERE WAS A , I THINK WE NEED SOMEBODY TO MUTE IF YOU'RE NOT, UH, SPEAKING. IT WAS ALL FINALLY RESOLVED IN 1960 WITH A BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE LANDOWNER AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND THE BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT HAS LANGUAGE IN IT THAT STATES THE BOUNDARY LINE, AND IT ALSO GIVES THE PROPERTY OWNER THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY LINE. AND IF IT GOES UNDER WATER DUE TO EROSION OR ACCRETION, WE CAN FILL IT IN. SO THE COUNCIL HAS AN EASY, YOU GUYS LOOK GREAT. WE'RE , WE'RE WE'RE EASY. WE CAN EITHER GO AND FILL IN BACK OUT TO OUR PROPERTY LINE AND THEN MEASURE FROM THERE, COME BACK 150 FEET AND NEED NO VARIANCE. OR YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS TOO COOL. SO THEY SAID, HOW ABOUT WE GO ABOUT IT A DIFFERENT WAY AND MEASURE FROM THE ACTUAL WATER LINE, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, AND THAT WAS 90 FEET FOR THAT SMALL STRETCH. SO WE, WE CAN OFFER UP TWO OPTIONS. WE ARE EITHER GONNA FILL IN OUR LAND AND GET IT BACK AND THEN MEASURE ONE 50, OR WE CAN DO LIKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDED AND GO 90. AND THAT, THAT'S AS SIMPLE AS IT IS. I STILL WANT OUR WATERSHED STAFF TO, TO GIVE US SOMETHING THAT SPEAKS TO THIS ISSUE. PLEASE. UH, AND IN THE MAYOR PRO 10, HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO WHERE THE BUILDING IS NOW? THE STATESMAN BUILDING? IS IT AT THE 90? IS IT AT THE 90 P? OH, IT'S, I THINK IT'S CLOSER THAN THAT, ISN'T IT? YEAH. WE'VE, WE'VE GOT NUMBERS FOR YOU ON THE REDUCTIONS OF SETBACKS ON THE, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER IN THE BUILDINGS ARE SO FAR INTO THE SETBACKS AND, AND ALL. IT'S, THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING THING TO TALK ABOUT, BUT DO WE HAVE AN EXISTING CONDITION THERE? IT'LL BE MUCH FARTHER BACK. COULD WE LEAVE, LEAVE THAT GRAPHIC UP THERE? THERE. OH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT ONE? WOULD YOU CHECK THOSE DISTANCES AND GIVE US THOSE DISTANCES TO THE BUILDINGS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING OR THE, WELL, THE QUESTION THAT SAID BOTH THE EXISTING AND THE, AND THE BUILDINGS ON SITE. SURE. WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LACKING IS THE EXISTING, RIGHT. WE'VE GOT EXISTING, IF YOU GIVE US JUST A SECOND, WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THE EXISTING BUILDING IS AND THEN WE CAN COMPARE IT TO WHAT THE PROPOSED IS. OKAY. THAT THAT'S EXISTING THERE. YEP. YOU CAN SEE THE PRIMARY LINE. IT'S, IS THAT THE PRIMARY OR THE SECONDARY? THAT'S PRIMARY. PRIMARY SET. WELL, IT'S LABELED RIGHT AT THE TOP, AND THAT'S SECONDARY. SO YOU'LL SEE IT'LL ALL BE PULLED OUT OF THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY. AND IF YOU WANT ACTUAL FOOTAGE, WE CAN MEASURE THAT. BUT THAT'S, THAT'LL, THAT'S WHAT'LL BE PULLED OUT IN ADDITION TO THE PARKING AND STUFF OVER THERE ON THE EAST SIDE. WOULD YOU GIVE EVERYBODY COUNCIL A COPY OF THIS? SURE. THAT IN FACT, A COPY OF THIS POWERPOINT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SURE. THANK YOU. I, I THINK IT'S IN THERE. WELL, WE'LL GET YOU ANOTHER ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, CAN WE GET A LEGAL OPINION AND SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PART, ABOUT THEM BEING ABLE TO JUST FILL IN THE LAKE WILLIE NILLY? UM, I KNOW THAT OUR STATE HAS DONE SOME CRAZY THINGS BEFORE, BUT, UM, I WOULD, WELL, THIS WASN'T THE STATE. THIS WAS THE CITY. OKAY. OR WE'VE DONE SOME CRAZY THINGS TOO. UM, FOR SURE. UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND, AND, AND WHY THAT'S NOT CHANGEABLE. UM, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT, MARY, MORE TIME. YEAH. CAUSE IT, IT, IT'S GONNA BE SOME, IT MAY BE VERY LEGAL WHAT [07:15:01] YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE SETBACKS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHY WE GAVE A VARIANCE. SURE. FOR THIS, IF WE DO, UM, AND WE NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR THAT. HAVE WE, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. HAVE WE DONE THIS BEFORE FOR OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THE LAKE? WE ARE PARTTIME, I, I CANNOT RECALL DOING IT. I THINK THAT THE SITUATION IS RATHER UNUSUAL TO HAVE PRIVATE PROPERTY UNDER, UNDER, UH, LABOR LAKE. UM, WE CAN GO BACK AND CHECK, BUT THERE'S NONE THAT I CAN RECALL. CAN WE GET A MAP TO SEE WHERE WE HAVE, I MEAN, CUZ WE HAVE, I MEAN, UP LAKE AUSTIN, YOU HAVE THAT ALL THE WAY, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD LAKE. I WOULD NOT DOWN THE LAKE. I WOULD NOT DOUBT THAT THE HEIGHT REGENCY IS INSIDE THE SETBACK BECAUSE THAT IS THE BUILDING THAT TRIGGERED THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY ORDINANCE. RIGHT. SO MORE THAN LIKELY IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT TRIGGERED IT. UM, BUT, UM, I CANNOT RECALL, UM, OTHER THAN SOME OF THE PUNS THAT WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, WITH ADJUSTMENTS TO HEIGHT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT WITH REGARD TO THE SETBACK OFF OF THE WATER, I CAN'T RECALL, UM, US DOING A MODIFICATION TO THAT. OKAY. SO THERE'LL BE PROPERTIES THAT PREDATE THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. BUT MY QUESTION IS, SINCE WE'VE HAD THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY, HAVE WE HAVE, WE, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK. I THINK THE ONE I NEED TO CHECK WOULD BE THE, UH, WE CALLED IT, I THINK IT WAS FAIRFIELD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO THE, TO THE HYATT RIGHT NOW HAS A PUT ON IT AS WELL, UH, WAS IN THE NEWS RECENTLY CUZ IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED, BUT I DON'T RECALL IF IT HAD A, UH, OVERLAY SETBACK. BUT I, WE CAN CHECK. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL THOSE QUESTIONS I'D LIKE ANSWERED IN THE REVIEW THAT YOU'VE INDICATED WE'LL GET FROM, UH, WATERSHED. OKAY. THAT GETS US TO THE NEXT ONE I THINK IS THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS. UM, I THINK THE QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOVA WAS ASKING FOR IS, AND AS I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER TOPO IS STILL WITH US, UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE PART OF THIS PLAN THAT THE, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO DO. AND AS I UNDERSTOOD, AND I'M GUESSING, I THINK THAT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOPO WAS SAYING IS EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE AGREED TO DO WE NEED THEM TO DO AS OPPOSED TO GOING OUT AND GETTING FURTHER PUBLIC SUBSIDY TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE. BECAUSE TO THE DEGREE THAT THEY GET FURTHER PUBLIC SUBSIDY TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE, THEY'RE NO LONGER DOING THOSE THINGS AT THEIR EXPENSE ANYMORE. AND THEREFORE WOULD IMPACT THE DEAL. IF THEY CAN GET ALL THESE THINGS DONE FOR FREE, THEN, THEN THERE'S STILL MORE THAN THEY COULD DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. MM-HMM. , I, I, I WANT TO KNOW IS THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE IN COUNCIL MEMBER POOL'S AMENDMENT WHERE SHE HAS INDICATED ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO. AND I THINK IT'S IN SECTION E, WHAT PAGE ONE THROUGH SIX AND IN, UH, PART 10 IN THE PARKS AND ALSO IN, I I THINK THOSE ARE THE, THE LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT THE, THE APPLICANT'S OBLIGATED RIGHT. THAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING. YES. WANNA KNOW IF THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IS INTENDING TO GET IF, AND I GUESS WE NEED COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO, IF YOU COULD, LET'S REACH OUT THERE AND, AND SEE IF YOU CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THAT. I THINK IT'S TO ENSURE THAT, THAT THERE'S NO GREATER PUBLIC SUBSIDY GIVEN TO ANY OF THESE ONE THROUGH SIX OR ONE THROUGH SEVEN THINGS MM-HMM. . CAUSE IF THERE'S GREATER PUBLIC SUBSIDY, THEN IT'S NOT COSTING THE APPLICANT AS MUCH AND THEY CAN DO MORE. RIGHT. AND ONE THING I LIKE TO SAY, MARY, REAL QUICK IF I COULD, IS THAT THIS ORDINANCE OBVIOUSLY IS THE ZONING ORDINANCE APPLIES TO PRIVATE PIECE OF PROPERTY, CORRECT? RIGHT. AND SO IT OBLIGATES THEM TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, BUT WHAT IT DOES NOT DO IS OBLIGATE THE CITY TO DO ANYTHING PER SE. UM, THAT'S THE CONCERN WE HEARD ABOUT THE APPLICANT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE ROAD. UM, SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE ORDINANCE AS FAR AS THE THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT ARE MODIFIED BY THE ORDINANCE, WE JUST HAVE THAT ISSUE I BROUGHT UP EARLIER ABOUT THE, THE RENTAL OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY GIVE BACK TO US FOR BOTH THE ROAD AND THE PARKS DURING CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. UM, BUT, UM, IT DOES INCREASE THE FEE FOR THE PARKLAND, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED ABOVE QUESTION MARK STILL BE TO BE DETERMINED. UM, BUT, UM, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE CAN OBLIGATE THE CITY TO PAY FOR OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE IT ONLY APPLIES TO THAT PROPERTY AND NOT TO THE CITY IN GENERAL. SO ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC SUBSIDIES THAT THE APPLICANT'S GETTING FOR THE THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO HERE OTHER THAN THE AGREEMENTS IN THE POD THAT THE, FOR THE CITY OBLIGATIONS? NO, [07:20:01] WHAT WE HAD ALWAYS PRO PROGRAMMED IN, BASED ON THE PLAN WAS THE DISTRICT INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROAD BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AND THE PARK. THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOT A, THAT ARE IN THE POD, BUT WE HAVE NOT AGREED TO PAY FOR. OKAY. WOULD YOU CHECK THAT, CONFIRM THAT IF YOU HAD SENT SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL THAT SAYS THAT ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE AGREEING TO DO IN HERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT BEING SUBSIDIZED SAVE AND EXCEPT FOR THE OBLIGATIONS THAT THE CITY IS ALSO MAKING IN THE, AS PART OF THE PUT RIGHT. I CAN, I CAN DO THAT. AND JERRY'S RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE CAN OBLIGATE THE CITY TO PAY FOR THINGS THROUGH THE ZONING ORDINANCE. MY CONCERN OF COUNCIL MEMBER TOGO'S AMENDMENT WAS I READ IT THAT, THAT SHE WAS THINKING THAT NOTHING WOULD COME OUT OF PUBLIC FUNDS, INCLUDING BARTON SPRINGS ROAD, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE ROAD AND THE PARK. THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THAT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING THE CITY TO COVER BECAUSE THEY'RE DISTRICT INFRASTRUCTURE. WOULD YOU PLEASE GET WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO MM-HMM. AND SEE? SURE. CAUSE I DON'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HER TO SAY THAT. OKAY. IF YOU GET, I MEAN, SHE'S GONNA KNOW BEST SHE WILL WHAT IT IS THAT SHE INTENDS, IF YOU WOULD GET WITH HER AND SEE IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE. PERFECT. IF NOT, I CAN TAKE IT OFF AND PUT IT INTO THE RESOLVED. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE, LET'S DAYLIGHT THE ISSUE SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE OF THE LAST ONE I HAVE IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONUS ENTITLEMENT. UH, THE LANGUAGE THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW ON THIS IS, UM, SHOWN ON PAGE, UM, RIGHT AT THE END ON THE TOP OF PAGE 25 OF 25. UM, JERRY DOES, DOES THE STAFF HAVE ANY RESERVATIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT PART 20 LANGUAGE? UM, THERE, THIS, THIS IS ONE I THINK THAT THE STAFF WOULD, UM, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ABOVE, THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION LANGUAGE? YES. YES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, TO BE HONEST, THE STAFF WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. OKAY. UM, ONLY BECAUSE, UM, WELL, WE'D LIKE TO CONSIDER A LITTLE BIT FURTHER GET BACK TO YOU. OKAY. IF STAFF COULD CONSIDER THAT FURTHER REACH OUT. SURE. OKAY. UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UM, K KITCHEN, THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT BOARDWALK. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN ISSUE AT THIS POINT OR IF IT'S BEEN RESOLVED BY OTHER STUFF. YEAH, LET ME, LET ME RAISE IT AND THEN IT PROBABLY TAKES SOME FURTHER CONVERSATION OFFLINE. BUT BASICALLY, UM, MY CONCERN ABOUT THE BOARDWALK IS THE COST. AND I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, IN THE WORLD WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT TRADE OFFS, THAT'S NOT WHERE I WOULD WANT TO PUT CITY DOLLARS. SO I WOULD WANT TO EITHER JUST STRIKE THE REFERENCE TO BOARDWALK BECAUSE IT'S IN EXHIBIT G RIGHT NOW, I THINK. OR, UM, BE CLEAR THAT NO PUBLIC DOLLARS WOULD BE UTILIZED AS A SOURCE OF FUNDS TO DESIGN OR CONSTRUCT THE PROPOSED BOARDWALK. AND AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS THE, UM, I, I THOUGHT I HAD SEEN SOMEWHERE THAT THE COST COULD BE AS MUCH AS 6 MILLION. AND YOU KNOW, IN A WORLD WHERE WE'RE TRYING, TRYING VERY HARD TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH WE CAN DO, OR WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS HOW MUCH WE CAN DO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TO MY MIND, I WOULD MUCH RATHER PUT DOLLARS INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAN ON A BOARDWALK. NOW I REALIZE IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE, BUT, UM, I DO. THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS ONE. JERRY, WOULD YOU AND STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT THAT QUESTION? SURE. SEE WHETHER OR NOT BOARDWALK CAN COME OUT OF G OR WHETHER IS SOMEBODY OBLIGATING THEMSELVES TO PUT MONEY TOWARD A BOARDWALK, UH, BOARDWALK AS PART OF THIS? UM, NOT TO MEDICAL RECOLLECTION, BUT UM, I DO KNOW IT WAS PROPOSED AS AN AMENITY. YOU KNOW, UNLIKE IN OTHER PLACES WHERE THE CITY BUILT IT, IT WAS KIND OF REQUIRED TO CONTINUE THE TRAIL. THIS WAS STRICTLY AN, AN AMENITY DEAL. IS, IS THE APPLICANT PROPOSING TO BUILD SPORT BOARDWALK? UM, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT I'LL, OKAY. SO THIS IS THEN A CITY EXPENSE WE'RE LOOKING IS THE APPLICANT, IS THAT NO, THIS, THIS PUT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO BUILD A BOARDWALK. IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE THE CITY, IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE THE LANDOWNER, BUT IT PROVIDES THE FRAMEWORK WITHIN CODE TO BE ABLE TO BE BUILT AT A FUTURE TIME. AND SO IF A PHILANTHROPIC PARKS ENTITY CAME AND SAID THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE TRAIL, THEY COULD DO IT. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND AMEND THE PUT TO DO. SO IT'S IN NATURE OF AN ENCUMBRANCE UPON THE PROPERTY? YES. OKAY. IT'S PURELY IN THE EVENT SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO IT. THEY CAN, DOESN'T COMMIT. OH, I'M SORRY. DOESN'T COMMIT ANYBODY TO DO IT. SO IS IT FIGURED INTO YOUR PERFORMA IN TERMS OF A COST? NO. OKAY. CAUSE THERE IS NO COST. OKAY. WELL I WOULD WANT SOME CLARITY THAT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE CONTEXT OF TALKING ABOUT HOW WE PAY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WOULD WANT SOME CLARITY THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA USE CITY DOLLARS TO PAY IS CASE. AND, AND CUZ THERE IS SOME CONCERN OKAY. FROM, UH, SOME CONSTITUENTS ABOUT EVEN [07:25:01] HAVING A BOARDWALK. OKAY. SO, SO COUNCIL MAY, BUT WHAT MR. SETTLE JUST STATED WAS THAT BASICALLY THE, THE PUT PROVIDES THE, THE MODIFICATIONS NECESSARY TO DO THE BOARDWALK IF THE CITY CHOSE TO DO IT. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO, BUT IF YOU COULD CHECK WITH, CHECK WITH STAFF AND THE PARK SMART AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS TO DO, WE WALK HERE SO THAT, THAT QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC CAN BE ANSWERED. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE POD QUESTION. RIGHT. AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE WANT THE POD TO ENCUMBER THE PROPERTY WITH THE ABILITY TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY WE, THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD THAT. THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH WATERSHED ABOUT THAT, BUT, BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ABOUT WHETHER I, I, I'VE HEARD SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY, THERE AT LEAST SOME PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT TO AUTHORIZE A BOARDWALK AT THIS POINT IN TIME. AND SO PART THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU IS IF AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THE CITY TOOK UP THE QUESTION OF PAYING FOR A BOARDWALK, COULD IT NOT BE AUTHORIZED AT THAT TIME? WHY ARE WE AUTHORIZING IT RIGHT NOW? YOU COULD, WELL IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH JUST DOING IT ONE TIME. YOU COULD TAKE THOSE MODIFICATIONS OUT OF THE CO OUT OF THE POD AND THEN IF THE CITY EVER WANTED TO DO THE BOARDWALK AND THE FUTURE, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO GO GET ENVIRONMENTS ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCES ON ITS OWN. WELL THE REASON I'M ASKING IS IT ON, IS IT ON CITY PROPERTY? IS IT ON THEIR PROPERTY? IT'D BE ON CITY PROPERTY. OKAY. IT WOULD BE OVER THE WATER. YEAH. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT TRYING TO RESOLVE A QUESTION RIGHT NOW THAT NEEDS REALLY COMPLETE VET WITH THE PUBLIC WHEN IT'S NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT AND WE'RE NOT COMMITTING DOLLARS FOR IT. I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT RIGHT NOW AS PART OF THIS PLUG PROCESS. GOT IT. SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE. OKAY. IT DOESN'T INVOLVE THE APPLICANT AT ALL. THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD THE CITY USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HA GET THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE VERSUS THE CITY? YEAH. GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET THE RIGHT TO DO IT AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE. IS THAT THE ISSUE? THE APPLICANT IS A, A STAKEHOLDER IN THIS BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO THE PARKS. THAT AREA OF THE TRAIL IS HEAVILY CONGESTED. THERE ARE RUNNERS, THERE ARE BIKERS, THERE ARE WALKERS. WE'VE HEARD FROM A LARGE COMMUTE, WE DIDN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP. WE HEARD FROM A LARGE SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO PULL OFF THE TRAIL, ENJOY THE WATER, WATCH THE BATS, AND NOT GET RUN OVER BY PEOPLE DOING BIKES. SO WE PUT THAT INTO OUR PUD AS AS AN AMENITY AND WE'RE HOPING THAT SOMEWHERE WE'LL FIND SOMEBODY THAT WILL FUND IT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND GO THROUGH THE BUD PROCESS AGAIN TO GET IT APPROVED TO DO IT. SO WE JUST, IT'S A PLACEHOLDER RIGHT NOW. IT, IT, IT PROVIDES THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK TO DO IT IF SOMEBODY STEPS UP AND PROVIDES THE AMENITY FOR THE CITY. OKAY. SO THEN WE DO NEED TO MAKE, ACCORDING TO YOUR PERS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT IN THE POD, THEN WE NEED TO SPEND THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO DETERMINE HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT IT. BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WOULD PUT IT INTO THE PUB BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA PAY FOR IT, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S CORRECT MAYOR, THAT PAUL, YEAH, THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WOULDN'T BE ON THE LIST OF A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED. THE BOARDWALK AND THE PEER AND THE GREAT LAWN WERE THINGS THAT WOULD GO INTO THE PUBLIC PROCESS TO HAVE THE PUBLIC GIVE US THEIR INPUT ON THE THINGS, HOW THEY WOULD PRIORITIZE THE DIFFERENT AMENITIES. WELL WHAT IF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT A BOARDWALK? THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY MY QUESTION. WE DON'T HAVE TO DEBATE IT NOW, BUT THAT'S REALLY MY QUESTION CUZ I'VE HEARD FROM CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT FEEL LIKE IT'S THAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE. SO OKAY, SO WE'RE JUST SUSSING OUT THE ISSUES RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. AND I'VE HEARD THE OPPOSITE OF THAT, THAT IT IS ACTUALLY USEFUL FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT WALKING ON THE EDGE ON THE RIPARIAN EDGE YOU ARE OFF ON, BUT I DO, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE FOR US AND THE ISSUE IS, SHOULD THE POD AT THIS POINT PRESERVE RIGHT, THE OPPORTU THAT'S OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO GO TO BOARDWALK. THAT'S A DISCRETE POLICY QUESTION. YES. THAT WE CAN ANSWER. I UNDERSTAND IT WILL BE ABLE TO DRAFT THIS MORE DIRECTLY TO THAT QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISS, I'M NOT GONNA WEIGH IN ON WHETHER THERE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE A BOARDWALK, BUT I WILL JUST SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE THAT WHEN FOLKS ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE TRAILS THAT ARE WITHIN THE AUTHORIZED SETBACKS EXISTING, IT GETS VERY DIFFICULT FOR EVEN PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY TO COME AND MAINTAIN THOSE TRAILS BECAUSE IF THEY WERE BUILT FRESH, THEY WOULD BE FURTHER FROM THE LINE. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION RIGHT NOW IN A LOT OF THESE LOCATIONS. SO I JUST, NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT I WANT US TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WE TRY TO SORT OUT THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO, TO ADDRESS THIS CONCERN. GOT IT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO, THAT WE COULD RESOLVE OR GIVE DIRECTION ON? MY HOPE IS IS THAT IT ON THE 27TH WE'RE [07:30:01] IN A POSITION TO PASS SOMETHING ON SECOND READING, UH, AND WE'LL WORK TO TRY TO REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT THE DISCRETE QUESTIONS ARE THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. THAT'S GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON STAFF'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED TODAY QUICKLY ENOUGH FOR THE THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ABSORB THAT INFORMATION. UH, BUT IF WE CAN GET BACK THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, IT SEEMS AS IF WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A VOTE AT LEAST ON SECOND READING ON THESE, UH, DISCRETE QUESTIONS, TEE 'EM UP AND VOTE ON THEM. CERTAINLY IF YOU CAN RESOLVE ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS BEFORE THEN AND RESOLVE 'EM. AND SOME OF 'EM LOOK LIKE THEY MIGHT BE RESOLVE A BULL, MAYBE. ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO BRING UP JERRY? JUST NEED YOU TO VOTE ON JERRY, ANYTHING ELSE YOU THINK WE NEED TO BRING? NO. UM, THERE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TILL THE 27TH. COUNCILMAN POOL MAKES A MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, ANY DISCUSSION? YES, I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON THE 27TH, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW, IF WE'RE GONNA TIE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE JURORS PIECES AND WHAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO CONSTRUCT THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT ON THE 27TH. SO I I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO KEEP TALKING AND, AND I THINK THIS PROJECT DESERVES, UM, THE ATTENTION, BUT I I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS. ALSO. SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR US TO REVIEW FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO JUST TO, TO KEEP EXPECTATIONS CLEAR, UM, ON WHAT WE HAVE TO BE READY FOR ON THAT DATE. I WANTED TO JUST SWIPE AND WE'LL SEE. I MEAN ONE OF THE, THE, THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING WITH RESPECT TO THE TOURISM AND LIKE IS A QUESTION WE'VE ASKED STAFF WHETHER THEY CAN DRAFT IT IN A WAY THAT SETS OUT MECHANICS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PROCEED. I AGREE WITH YOU. IF WE DON'T HAVE MECHANICS THAT ALLOW US TO PROCEED, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PROCEED. SO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO AND, AND, AND GET IT BACK TO US. WHAT IS THE MEETING, WHAT'S THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THE 27TH? THE THIRD. SO ONE MORE WEEK. CORRECT. LET'S BUMP IT TO THE THIRD I THINK, CUZ JERRY, YOU'RE OUT, YOU'RE OUT OF TOWN NEXT WEEK, SO WE'RE GONNA LOSE A WEEK. LET'S DO THE, ANY OBJECTION TO POSTPONING IT TO THE THIRD? LET'S MAKE THE MOTION THE THIRD WITHOUT OBJECTION. MOVED IN SECOND. THOSE FAVOR PLEASE RAISE THEIR HAND. THOSE OPPOSE. THERE ARE SIX OF US HERE ON THE DAYS. AND NATASHA VOTING? YES. SO SEVEN. OH, UM, UH, NATASHA, MAYOR, PROAM, ELLA, KITCHEN, LS POOL, AND ME. UH, THIS MATTERS POSTPONED UNTIL THE THIRD THAT I THINK IS EVERYTHING ON OUR AGENDA. I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY. HERE'S PROCLAMATION. WE'RE GONNA GO TO THOSE RIGHT NOW. IT IS SIX 30 AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. ALL RIGHT. [Proclamation – Hispanic Contractors Appreciation – To be presented by Mayor Adler] THE, UH, A UH, PROCLAMATION TO BOTH RECOGNIZE, UH, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTHS AND RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR, UH, EMPLOYEES, PARTICULARLY OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS. UH, UM, CHIEF VELA CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT FOUR. UM, AND, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME EMS EMPLOYEES WITH US HERE TODAY. HAPPY HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH TO EVERYONE. UH, AS A CHICANO COUNCIL MEMBER, I AM HONORED TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUES IN RECOGNITION AND CELEBRATION OF OUR AUSTIN HISPANIC AND LATINO COMMUNITY. THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTES FOR HER PROCLAMATION THIS MORNING FOR, UH, HISPANIC HERITAGE FOR MONTHS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UH, AND TO MAYOR ADLER. UH, FOR HONORING OUR HISPANIC, UH, CONTRACTORS. I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THE FESTIVITIES BY RECOGNIZING THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF LATINOS WHO SERVE THE PUBLIC. AS EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THEY TAKE CARE OF SO MANY THINGS THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED EVERY DAY TO KEEP OUR CITY GOING. EVERY ONE OF US ON COUNCIL KNOWS THAT WE COULD NOT DO OUR JOBS WITHOUT THEM. SOME OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE ESSENTIAL WORKERS. THESE JOBS ARE CRITICAL TO AUSTIN. THEY'RE THE ONES ON THE FRONT LINES OF DISASTERS, PANDEMICS, DROUGHT, MAKING SURE WE HAVE SAFE DRINKING WATER, ELECTRICITY, AND FUNCTIONING COMMUNICATIONS IN THE MOST DIFFICULT OF TIMES. THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY OF REMOTE WORK OR FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES. THEY HAVE TO SHOW UP IN PERSON TO DO THEIR JOBS, WHATEVER THE RISKS. A LOT OF THOSE ESSENTIAL WORKERS ARE LATINO, SOME OF THEM ARE WITH US HERE TODAY, AND I WANNA RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS AND SACRIFICES ON BEHALF OF AUSTIN. I ALSO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE AUSTIN HISPANIC LATINO NETWORK, UH, WHICH SUPPORTS OUR EMPLOYEES OF, UH, LATIN AMERICAN DESCENT AND CELEBRATES HISPANIC AND LATINO CULTURE. JUST THIS MORNING, THEY HOSTED A HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH CELEBRATION FOR US AT THE CITY, UH, WITH PAND TACOS COFFEE AND MUSIC. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT THIS MORNING. THERE WERE PROBABLY [07:35:01] 200, 250 PEOPLE THERE. REALLY GREAT EVENT. UM, UH, IT WAS THE AUSTIN HISPANIC LATINO NETWORK WAS CREATED IN 1984 AND IS THE VERY FIRST EMPLOYEE AFFINITY GROUP IN AUSTIN. THEY PROVIDE CAREER DEVELOPMENT AND ADVANCEMENT PROGRAMS IN HOST EVENTS SUCH AS THEIR CAFECITO SERIES WHERE EMPLOYEES CAN INTERACT WITH DIRECTORS AND MANAGEMENT. WE HAVE THEIR BOARD HERE WITH US TODAY, AND I WANNA JUST BRIEFLY, UH, RECOGNIZE HIM. ALBA, UH, SERENO, UH, AND AMIR CO-CHAIRS. MARIA STEWART, TREASURER ROSE MARIE MARTINEZ, PROGRAM CHAIR. AND BRIANNA GUERRERO, COMMUNICATIONS CHAIR. UH, AMY GALVAN, MEMBERSHIP CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. UM, FINALLY, I WANNA TAKE THIS OCCASION TO BOTH CELEBRATE AND DRAW ATTENTION TO SOME VERY SPECIAL LATINO EMPLOYEES AT THE CITY. MANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT DACA AND THE DREAMERS. UH, THOSE ARE UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE WHO WERE BROUGHT TO THE US AS CHILDREN. THEY'VE GROWN UP, THEY'VE MADE THEIR LIVES HERE. FOR MANY OF THEM, AMERICA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY THEY KNOW. SOME OF THOSE DREAMERS ARE ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND TAKE ON CRITICAL AND CHALLENGING TASKS. WITH US TODAY ARE SEVERAL EMS MEDICS WHO ARE DREAMERS. DESPITE FACING CONSTANT STRESS AND PRESSURE ABOUT THEIR LEGAL STATUS, THEY CHOSE BOTH AN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT AND IMPORTANT JOB. EMS DEPARTMENTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ARE LOSING PEOPLE AND HAVING TROUBLE HIRING BECAUSE OF THE, THE DEMANDS AND DANGERS OF THE JOB. DESPITE ALL OF THAT, UH, THEY, UH, HAVE STEPPED FORWARD AND SAID, I WILL SERVE. THE LEAST WE CAN DO AS A CITY IS TO FIGHT HARD, UH, TO KEEP THESE PEOPLE HERE WITH US. THAT IS WHY SOON I WILL BE PRESENTING A RESOLUTION, UH, THAT WOULD ENABLE THE CITY TO USE WHATEVER LEGAL METHODS ARE AVAILABLE TO GET THESE EMPLOYEES STATUS SO THAT THEY CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITIES THEY LOVE. IT WON'T BE EASY. IT'S A TOUGH SYSTEM. THE FEDERAL LAWS CAN BE AGAINST US AND CONGRESS HAS BEEN VERY STUBBORN IN NOT LEGALIZING THEIR STATUS, BUT WE WANT TO EXPLORE EVERY POSSIBLE OPTION TO GET OUR EMPLOYEE STATUS, INCLUDING THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY, SPONSORING THEM TO, UH, BECOME LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENTS ON THE BASIS OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND THE GREAT NEED WE HAVE FOR, UH, EMERGENCY WORKERS. UM, AND I WOULD LIKE, SOME OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THEIR OWN STORIES, AND I'D LIKE TO TURN THE MIC OVER TO THEM. UH, HECTOR, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, AND SAY A FEW WORDS? ABSOLUTELY, PLEASE. SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, CLOSE ENOUGH. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. UH, MY NAME IS CRUZ. I, UH, WAS RAISED IN LADO, TEXAS. I DO IDENTIFY MYSELF AS A 9 56 LATINO. I AM FAIRLY STUDENT IN SPANISH AND WHATNOT. I WAS BROUGHT TO THE UNITED STATES AROUND THE AGE OF FIVE, SIX YEARS OF AGE. UH, SPANISH IS MY FIRST LANGUAGE. NEVERTHELESS, I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AND MORE FLUENT IN ENGLISH AT THIS POINT. I DID, UM, STARTED EMS BACK HOME WITH A HOSTA PROGRAM THAT ALL HIGH SCHOOLS IN TEXAS HOST. AND, UH, THAT'S KIND OF HOW MY LOVE FOR EMS STARTED. I THEN STARTED TO VOLUNTEER AS A FIREFIGHTER WITH WEBB COUNTY AND STUFF OUT THE COUNTY, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENTS. I SOON SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HERE IN AUSTIN, TRA COUNTY, MS. AND IT'S BEEN A DREAM EVER SINCE THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. UM, ALONG WITH THAT, I CONTINUE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND I AM PROUD TO DO SO. THANK YOU, HECTOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER SIMILAR STORIES. UH, I AM AN IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY. I HAVE WORKED WITH DACA'S MY ENTIRE CAREER SINCE 2012 WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED. UH, THEY ARE MY FAVORITE CLIENTS. I JUST AM SO HAPPY WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO HELP THEM, WHEN I'M ABLE TO BRING SOMEBODY OUT OF THE SHADOWS AND GET THEM A WORK PERMIT AND A SOCIAL SECURITY GUARD. ON THE FLIP SIDE, WHEN I HAVE A DACA WHO'S BEEN ARRESTED AND IS THEN CAUGHT UP IN THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM, THEY ARE MY MOST HEARTBREAKING CASES. THESE ARE THE KIDS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAME WHEN THEY WERE THREE AND THEY'RE FACING THE PROSPECT OF BEING DEPORTED TO A COUNTRY THEY'VE NEVER BEEN TO. THEY HAVE NO MEMORY OF, THEY'RE FAMILY IS NOT THERE ANYMORE. THOSE ARE SOME OF MY MOST HEARTBREAKING CASES. AND I JUST WANNA SAY I, IN, IN MY LAW FIRM, WE EMPLOY ALSO, UH, A HANDFUL OF DACA'S. AND SO I, I'M THERE WITH THEM EVERY DAY. THE STRESS, THE DIFFICULTIES. ONE OF THE MOST EMOTIONAL DAYS I EVER HAD AS AN ATTORNEY WAS A SUPREME COURT DAY WHEN THEY PRESERVED DACA ON A FIVE TO FOUR BOAT. I REMEMBER JUST, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE WERE CRYING JUST FROM THE, THE RELIEF, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM THE, THE STRESS BEING LIFTED, ALL THE EMOTIONS POURED OUT. SO I I, I SUPPORT Y'ALL. I FEEL FOR Y'ALL. UH, CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU LEGAL STATUS YEARS AGO, BUT I, I WILL BE, UH, BRINGING RESOLUTION TO SEE [07:40:01] ANYTHING THE CITY CAN DO. WE NEED EMS SO BAD. WE HAVE SO MANY VACANCIES TO FILL. CAN WE AS A CITY PETITION FOR THESE FOLKS AND GET THEM THE LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS TO ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE THEIR CAREERS HERE IN AUSTIN TO ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO ADVANCE AND GROW? UH, I HOPE WE CAN, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA BE LOOKING INTO THAT QUESTION AND EXPLORING IT. AND AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU TO, UH, UH, SELE FROM THE EMS UNION, THE, AND THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR, YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION. YEAH, YEAH. WE WENT FIRST AND WE GOTTA GET THEM BACK IN SERVICE. ALL GOOD. DO WE HAVE FRANK FUENTES HERE WITH US? NO, I'M GONNA HOLD THAT. DO WE HAVE, UM, UM, UH, DIRECTOR ROY? AH, THERE YOU ARE. DIRECTOR. HOW YOU DOING? WHAT? STAND AGAIN, DIRECTOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. [Proclamation – Code Month – To be presented by Council Member Renteria and to be accepted by José G. Roig, Director of the Austin Code Department] ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS, UH, CODE MONTH, UH, HERE. UH, AND, UM, BOY, I TELL YOU, IF THERE'S ONE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY THAT IS AT THE FRONT LINE, IT IS, UH, CODE, UH, BOTH FOR THE GOOD AND THE BAD. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST, UH, PUBLIC FACING AND PUBLIC INTERACTIVE, UH, AGENCIES, UM, DEPARTMENTS. UM, BUT AS I HAVE FREQUENTLY SAID, EVEN JUST IN MY EIGHT YEARS HERE, THE DEPARTMENT THAT I THINK HAS REALLY, UH, UH, ADVANCED THE MOST FROM, FROM, FROM WHERE IT HAD BEEN, IT WOULD BE CODE. UH, AND, AND, UH, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT AS A CITY WE'RE, WE'RE PROUD OF. WE RECOGNIZE IT IS NOT A, AN AN EASY JOB. UH, BUT WE ARE INCREDIBLY APPRECIATIVE AND WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION BE IT KNOWN THAT WHEREAS THE AUSTIN CODE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES FOR THE SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE OF RESIDENTS LIVING IN COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THEIR EDUCATION, COLLABORATION, AND ENFORCEMENT OF BUILDING, ZONING, HOUSING, UM, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND OTHER CODES AND ORDINANCES. AND WHEREAS CODE INSPECTORS AND STAFF ARE DEDICATED, WELL TRAINED AND HIGHLY RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS COMMITTED TO PROMOTING THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S SAFETY STRATEGIC OUTCOME BY BEING SAFE IN OUR HOME WORK AND IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT RESPONDS AND PROVIDES FAIR AND EQUITABLE ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATING MORE THAN 23,000 CITYWIDE CODE CASES PER YEAR AND PERFORMING OVER 72,000 INSPECTIONS. AND WHEREAS WITH AN INTENTIONAL FOCUS ON PREVENTION, THE AUSTIN CODE DEPARTMENT AIMS TO PROACTIVELY EDUCATE THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY ABOUT CITY CODES AND ORDINANCES TO ORGANIZE THE INTENT COMMUNITY EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO THEREFORE, I, STEVE ADLER MAYOR, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, TEXAS ON BEHALF OF MY, OF THE MAYOR PRO TAM, AND MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL TO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER OF THE YEAR 22, 20 22 AS CODE MONTH IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. PLEASE CONVEY THIS TO THE ENTIRE, UH, DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT CODE? UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, UH, COUNCILMAN BRATER AND THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING OCTOBER AS CODE MONTH. UM, I JUST VERY QUICKLY, DEPARTMENT LOOKS FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR MISSION OF, UH, WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THERE'S SAFE PLACES TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY. THANK YOU. AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. OH, I'M SORRY. I'M ASSISTANT DIRECTOR DANIEL WARD WITH AUSTIN CODE DEPARTMENT. . [07:45:15] YES, I DO. . ALL DONE. CONGRATULATIONS. UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO DO STACEY FULL BEFORE YOU? SHOULD I DO STACEY POOL BEFORE A DAY? MONARCH GROUP. OKAY. I THINK WE'RE [Proclamation 3] GONNA DO THE STACY POOL. SO IF THOSE WHO ARE HERE FOR STACY POOL WANNA FIX STACY POOL, WANNA COME UP, THAT'D BE GREAT BY AUSTIN. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M ALISON, ER, I'M HONORED TO SERVE AS MAYOR PROTE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UM, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO RECOGNIZE ONE OF OUR FAVORITE POOLS, BIG STACY POOL. UM, IT CELEBRATED ITS 85TH BIRTHDAY THIS SUMMER WITH A FUN NEIGHBORHOOD CELEBRATION. AND WE WANTED TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THAT LANDMARK WITH A PROCLAMATION, UM, GENERATIONS OF KIDS HAVE SPENT THEIR, THEIR TIME LEARNING TO SWIM AT BIG STACY. UM, IT STUDENTS AT THE NEARBY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL USE IT, IT IS ONE OF OUR BELOVED GATHERING SPOTS. UM, AND I'LL JUST REMIND US ALL THAT AS WE, WE DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE ARE POOLS, OUR SWIMMING POOLS LIKE BIG STACY, ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR ABILITY TO BE RESILIENT. OUR ABILITY TO, UM, GET THROUGH THESE SUMMERS AND THE REST OF THE YEAR, UM, AND THE WORK THAT OUR, OUR LIFEGUARDS DO AT BIG STACY KEEPING, UM, OUR COMMUNITY SAFE IS, IS SUPER IMPORTANT. AND SO TODAY IT IS MY HONOR TO OFFER THIS PROCLAMATION AND HONOR OF THAT ANNIVERSARY, BE IT KNOWN THAT WHEREAS SINCE 1937, BIG STACY POOL HAS PROVIDED A PLACE TO SWIM, PLAY, AND RELAX FOR NEIGHBORS AND TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND BEYOND. AND WHEREAS BIG STACY POOL WAS BUILT DURING THE 1930S BY THE WORKS PROGRESS ADMINISTRATION AND THUS A UNIQUE HISTORIC MONUMENT. AND WHEREAS IN A TIME OF CLIMATE CRISIS, BIG STACEY POOL IS HEATED NATURALLY WITH THE UNDERGROUND WATER FROM A NATURAL HOT SPRING OF VINTAGE EXAMPLE OF SUSTAINABILITY. NOW, THEREFORE, I ALLISON ALTAR, ALONG WITH STEVE ADLER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL DO HERE BY PROCLAIM 2022 AS THE 85TH ANNIVERSARY OF BIG STACEY POOL IN AUSTIN. AND THEN I WANNA, I WANNA INVITE UP, UM, ONE OF OUR LIFEGUARDS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING. YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO. PLEASE DO. DO YOU WANNA? YES. UM, THANK YOU. INTRODUCE YOURSELF, MR. WILLIAMS. AND, UM, FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, MS. MCNELEY FOR EVERYTHING SHE'S DONE FOR THE LIFEGUARDS MAYOR ADLER. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I SEE HIM ALL THE TIME. AND THEN MY GOOD FRIEND CALLAHAN SMITH, UM, WHO HAD THE VISION TO LET ME LET THIS COME TO FRUITION BECAUSE, UM, IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO, I WALKED UP TO HER AND SAID, CAN I MAKE A ROCK GARDEN? AND SHE SAID, WELL, YEAH, I'LL DO A 30 AND I MEAN, NO, I MEAN A 40. AND THEN IT WAS LIKE, OKAY. AND THEN THE, UH, THIS PICTURE OF THE ROCK GARDEN GOT BUILT AND THEN HERE WE ARE TODAY AND I WANT TO THANK HER SO MUCH. TAKE A MM-HMM. STAND HERE. STAND RIGHT HERE. OUT CENTER. YOU GUYS ARE THE CENTER HERE. . [07:50:09] I GOT ONE MORE. SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THE ROOTS AND WINGS, IF YOU WANNA, IS THAT RIGHT? YOU CAN COME ON DOWN. UMM, WHO ARE MY COME WHO ARE MY, UM, LET ME SPEAK TO BET I'M PRESENTING IT TO YOU OR NO, NO, PRESENTING IT TO EMILY. OKAY. EMILY. WELL, MAY THEY REPRESENT? YES. OKAY. [Proclamation – Arbor Day and Monarch Appreciation Day – To be presented by Mayor Pro Tem Alter and Council Member Pool and to be accepted by Betsy Woldman] HELLO AGAIN EVERYONE. UM, MY NAME IS ALISON ALTAR AND I MAYOR PROTE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND I AM REALLY EXCITED, UM, TO, TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO, TO DO THIS PARTICULAR PROCLAMATION. I GOT INTO POLITICS, UM, BECAUSE I WAS A PARKS ADVOCATE AND I TAKE PRIDE IN BEING AN ENVIRONMENTALIST ON THE COUNCIL. SO I WAS REALLY HONORED WHEN BETSY, A CONSTITUENT AND FRIEND AT CITY HALL ASKED ME TO OFFER THIS PROCLAMATION FOR ARBOR DAY, MONARCH APPRECIATION DAY IN AUSTIN'S FIFTH ANNUAL ROOTS AND WINGS FESTIVAL. WE KNOW THAT AUSTIN HAS A REALLY DEEP CONNECTION TO NATURE AND IT IS EVIDENT IN OUR BELOVED PARKS, OUR TRAILS AND OUR SWIMMING AREAS. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT ON SATURDAY OCTOBER 22ND, OUR CITY WILL KICK OFF A TWO WEEK CELEBRATION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF TREES, BUTTERFLIES, BEES AND NATURE IN OUR CITY THROUGH OUR FIFTH ROOTS AND WINGS FESTIVAL. THIS IS SO AUSTIN, IT'S AWESOME. UM, FROM OCTOBER 22ND THROUGH NOVEMBER 5TH, OUR 50 FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENTS WILL TAKE PLACE ALL AROUND AUSTIN. MY TEAM AND I ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO ATTENDING SOME OF THE PLANTINGS AND EDUCATIONAL EVENTS IN MY DISTRICT, AND I HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU WILL TAKE PART TO LEARN ABOUT THE TREES AND THE POLLINATORS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY. YOU CAN FIND A FULL EVENT SCHEDULE AT ROPES AND WINGS FEST.COM. I WANNA THANK BETSY AND ALL OF THE COORDINATORS FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT FESTIVAL FOR MANY OF US. THIS IS GONNA BE THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE ARE ATTENDING THESE EVENTS IN PERSON AGAIN AND AGAIN. IT'S JUST SO WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS. UM, I AM NOW GOING TO OFFER A, A PROCLAMATION, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HONOR THIS, THIS HAPPENING PROCLAMATION, BE IT KNOWN THAT WHEREAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS KNOWN NATIONALLY FOR ITS STUNNING PARK SYSTEM, ENHANCED BY A RICH SPRAWLING FOREST CANOPY AND A DIVERSE BUTTERFLY POPULATION AND NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FOR ITS CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO TREES AND POLLINATORS. AND WHEREAS TREES AND POLLINATORS ARE VALUED BY ALL OF AUSTIN'S RESIDENTS FOR THE ESSENTIAL ROLES THEY PLAY IN CULTURE, IN ECOSYSTEM SERVICES, CONNECTING US TO OUR ENVIRONMENT, COOLING OUR CITY, AND IMPROVING OUR AIR QUALITY AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE. AND WHEREAS THE YEAR 2022 HAS BROUGHT NEW CHALLENGES TO AUSTIN COMMUNITIES HIGHLIGHTING THE NEED FOR COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT, THE BENEFITS OF NATURE TO OUR HEALTH AND WELLBEING, AND THE CONTINUED NEED TO CHAMPION EQUITABLE ACCESS TO NATURE FOR ALL AUSTINITES. AND WHEREAS THE RAPID GROWTH OF OUR CITY CONTINUES TO INCREASE PRESSURES ON OUR SHARED GREEN SPACES, DESPITE THE GROWTH IN RANKS OF VOLUNTEERS AND INCREASE COMMUNITY STEWARDSHIP. AND WHEREAS I URGE ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT EFFORTS WHICH PROTECT OUR URBAN FOREST AND MONARCHS AND OTHER POLLINATORS, THUS INCREASING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. DURING THIS CITY OF AUSTIN'S 31ST ARBOR DAY AND NINTH MONARCH APPRECIATION DAY CELEBRATIONS THROUGH THE COMBINED ROOTS AND WINGS FESTIVAL. NOW THEREFORE, I ALLISON ALTAR ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, STEVE ADLER, WHO I THINK IS STILL HERE AND OUR COLLEAGUES DO, HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 22ND, 2022 AS ARBOR DAY AND MONARCH APPRECIATION DAY. JESSICA, WOULD YOU LIKE THANK YOU. YEAH. YES. HI. OH, UM, WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH MA'AM. AND THANK YOU MAYOR AND UM, THANK YOU OBVIOUSLY TO, UM, ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. THIS IS REALLY SPECIAL, UM, TO ME, BUT ALSO TO MY TEAM. UM, I AM A NEW AUSTINITE AND ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT I MOVED HERE FOR, OH, , I'M BEING TOLD THAT I DIDN'T INTRODUCE MYSELF. HI, I'M JESS WRIGHT, I'M THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR. UM, BUT, UM, ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MOVE HERE FOR WAS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO NATURE. UM, AND SO TO WORK FOR THE CITY AND TO BE IN A ROLE WHERE [07:55:01] I CAN CONNECT SO MANY PEOPLE TO NATURE, UM, THROUGH THIS FESTIVAL BY MAKING IT EVEN BIGGER THIS YEAR, UM, JUST REALLY FILLS MY HEART AND I THINK REALLY FULFILLS KIND OF THAT, THAT SPIRIT OF AUSTIN THAT I MOVED HERE FOR. UM, SO YEAH, CHECK IT OUT. THERE'S OVER 50 EVENTS THIS YEAR. THEY'RE ALL FREE. UM, THEY'RE HAPPENING OVER TWO WEEKS. THE WEATHER'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC. UM, THE MONARCHS HAVE BEEN COMING THROUGH IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM, SO, UM, YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I FORGOT I WAS EVEN COME. JESS GOT IT. ONE, TWO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS. THAT LOOK WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. A PLEASURE. AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE WITH THE HISPANIC CONTRACTORS, SO WE'LL HOLD ON TO THAT ONE. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.