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[Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order ]

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FORUM AND HAVING A QUORUM PRESENT WITHIN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER AT, HMM, 6:03 PM UM, SO FIRST WE'RE GONNA DO ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH THOSE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND THEN FOLLOWED BY THOSE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY.

UM, SO IN THE CHAMBERS WE HAVE, UH, JEFFREY THOMPSON HERE.

JAMES SHAY HERE AND ONLINE.

UH, I SEE.

YEP.

ONE MORE.

OH, AND ALWAYS AZAR HERE.

HELLO.

THANK YOU.

OOPS.

ALL RIGHT.

AND I'M GOING TO THOSE ONLINE.

UM, WE HAVE CARMEN, UH, YAMA.

GIANNIS POLITO PRESENT.

GREG ANDERSON.

HERE.

GRAYSON COX.

HERE.

JENNIFER MUTO.

SOUND OFF.

.

PATRICK HOWARD HERE.

AND, UH, ROB SCHNEIDER HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE IN THE CHAMBERS WE HAVE, UH, EX-OFFICIO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CHAIR, JESSICA COHEN .

HELLO.

UM, AND AS WE'VE BEEN ANNOUNCING SINCE, UH, 2020, CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED HYBRID MEETINGS AND ALLOWING FOR A VIRTUAL QUORUM AS LONG AS THE COMMISSIONER SERVING AS CHAIR IS PRESENT IN CHAMBERS, WHICH I AM.

UH, AS SUCH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS HERE IN CHAMBERS AND IN ATTENDANCE VIRTUALLY AND SPEAKERS CAN PRESENT FROM THE CHAMBERS OR PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY.

UM, IF YOU WISH TO WAIT IN THE ATRIUM, UH, THE COMMISSION LIAISON, MR. RIVERA, WE'LL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE ATRIUM A FEW MINUTES BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION BEGINS EACH PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, AND IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, YOU'LL RECEIVE AN EMAIL ABOUT 15 MINUTES PRIOR TO US TAKING UP YOUR ITEM.

UH, I'LL ALSO HAVE ASSISTANCE FROM MR. RIVERA AND ANNOUNCING THE SPEAKERS DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER SHAY WILL BE READING, UM, THE FIRST READING OF THE, UH, AGENDA CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, FOR THOSE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, PLEASE HAVE YOUR GREEN, RED, AND YELLOW ITEMS FOR VOTING.

AND WE WILL ANNOUNCE, UM, DURING THE VOTES THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE MEETING, THE NUMBER OF VOTES FOR AGAINST AND IN ABSTENTION, FOLLOWED BY THE NAMES OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, AND HOW THEY VOTE.

SO, UM, AND JUST A REMINDER, THOSE ONLINE, PLEASE REMAIN MUTED WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE RECOGNIZED.

UM, AND IF I MISS YOU, PLEASE, UM, LET ME KNOW, VIRTU VERBALLY THAT YOU NEED TO SPEAK.

UM, AND ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO CAN HELP ME DO THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, SO FIRST WE, UH, MR. RIVERA, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION? OKAY.

UM, SO COMMISSIONER

[Reading of the Agenda ]

SHAY, YOU COULD DO THE FIRST READING OF THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 11TH ON CONSENT.

THEN NEXT FOR, UH, ITEM TWO FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE HAVE, UH, NPA 2022 6.0 1 8 2 26 DASH 82 40 GEORGIAN DRIVE, DISTRICT FOUR.

UH, THIS IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM THREE, IT'S A REZONING.

IT IS C 14 DASH 2 0 22 DASH 0 86, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT FIVE.

THIS IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS ON CONSENT.

IT'S A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 2 8 0 2 DASH JOHN WOOD WAY DASH 33 DEGREES, DISTRICT ONE.

AND WITH THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, REZONING THAT GOES WITH IT FOR ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS ALSO CURRENTLY ON CONSENT.

AND THAT IS C 14 DASH 2022 DASH ZERO DASH 85 DASH JOHN WOOD WAY, DASH 33 DEGREES.

UH, DISTRICT ONE AGAIN FOR CONSENT.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM SIX ON CONSENT PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2019 DASH 0 0 1, 3 0 1 DASH COPELAND SOUTH DISTRICT NINE.

NEXT ITEM SEVEN, REZONING FOR CONSENT C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 180 5 DASH COPELAND SOUTH DISTRICT NINE.

WE HAVE

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REZONING CONSENT FOR ITEM EIGHT C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 82 DASH COPELAND.

FOR DISTRICT NINE, WE HAVE ITEM NINE ON CONSENT, WHICH IS REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 81 DASH FRANK SOUTH DISTRICT NINE.

WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT FOR ITEM 10 TO, UH, NOVEMBER 15TH BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THAT IS C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 76 DASH 3,100 GUADALUPE DISTRICT NINE.

WE HAVE ITEM 11 SITE PLAN ON CONSENT SP DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 4 30 C DASH EASTON PARK, MIXED USE DISTRICT TWO.

WE HAVE ITEM 12 FOR DISCUSSION.

IT'S A SITE PLAN EXTENSION S S P DASH 2016 DASH 21 C XT TWO UNANIMOUS BREWERY DISTRICT TWO.

WE HAVE ITEM 13 ON CONSENT, A PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 52 DASH PINNACLE AT WILD WILDHORSE DISTRICT.

SO WILDHORSE RANCH DISTRICT ONE ITEM 14.

THIS IS ON CONSENT TO PROVE WITH CONDITIONS BASED ON, UH, EXHIBIT C, FINAL PLAT OUT OF AN APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT J DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 70 SEVEN.ONE A EASTON PARK, SECTION FOUR B EAST PHASE ONE, DISTRICT TWO, ITEM 15 ON CONSENT IS A CODE AMENDMENT FOR HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.

ITEM 16 FOR DISCUSSION IS A CODE AMENDMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL USE ON COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES CODE AMENDMENT.

AND THAT IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

ME HAVE THIS BACK, RIGHT.

HAVE A SPEAKER FOR YES.

SO, UM, MR. AARY ON ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE, WE HAVE A SPEAKER, IS THAT CORRECT? CHAIR COMMISSION LEADS ON ANDREW.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, WE HAVE A SPEAKER AND SHE'LL PROVIDE HER REMARKS AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A SPEAKER WHO WILL PROVIDE REMARKS ON ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE AND OH, GO AHEAD.

AND THEN, UM, WE WILL KEEP IT ON CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY.

MS. CHRISTINA VO, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS, SO LIKE STAR SIX.

OKAY.

UM, HI, MY NAME'S IS GINA VODI WATTS.

UM, I WAS BASICALLY, I GUESS CALLING BECAUSE I, WE DIDN'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE PROPOSED REZONING AND SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES THEY WERE PLANNING TO DO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I KNOW, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD I'M IN, I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE WERE ALL PRETTY CONFIRMED.

SOME OF US WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS.

UM, DIDN'T NECESSARILY LIKE A LOT OF WHAT WE HEARD.

I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GENERALLY AGREED THAT IF THEY BUILD HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY SIMILAR IN NATURE TO WHAT'S HERE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY WELCOME GETTING IN NEW NEIGHBORS AND HOMEOWNER.

UM, I GUESS OUR CONCERN IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD THOSE VERY DENSE HOMES IN A VERY SMALL AREA.

IT LOOKS LIKE A LARGE AREA THAT THEY GET TO, TO BUILD IN.

UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF THAT IS THE CREEK AND A LOT OF THAT IS FLOOD PLAIN.

AND SO THE ACTUAL AREA IN WHICH THEY CAN BUILD IS, IS A SMALL AREA.

AND OUR OTHER CONCERN IS IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S ALREADY CORRECTLY ZONED FOR WHAT THEY WANNA BUILD.

BUT IF OUR LITTLE AREA OF JOHN WOOD GETS REZONED, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE GONNA CONNECT THAT TO THAT LARGER DEVELOPMENT.

AND I THINK THEY'RE PLANNING 10 TO 15 HOMES AND THAT REZONED AREA.

AND THEN I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT MY NOTES, BUT I THINK, UM, POSSIBLY LIKE 30 TO 40 HOMES IN THE, THE AREA THAT WAS ALREADY ZONED.

SO, I MEAN, I'M KIND OF ASSUMING THERE'S GONNA BE AT LEAST 50 NEW NEIGHBORHOODS.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE ACCESS ON TO DEATH OFFER FOR THAT OTHER AREA THAT'S ALREADY CORRECTLY ZONED WON'T HAVE, I GUESS, FULL ACCESS TO DESA.

THERE WON'T BE A LEFT TURN.

SO A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC IS GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, UH, TO TURN LEFT ON DESA.

AND THEN SOME TRAFFIC WILL ALSO JUST BE USING OUR SMALL LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS FOR ACCESS.

AND, UM, OUR STREETS REALLY AREN'T THAT LARGE.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CONGESTION PROBLEM FOR SURE.

WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS WHO PARK ON THE STREET.

UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF KIDS RIDING

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THEIR BIKES AND WALKING.

UM, I, I DO KIND OF ALSO WONDER ABOUT JUST THE TURNING RADIUS FOR SOME OF THOSE LARGER LIKE FIRE TRUCKS OR AMBULANCES.

UH, CUZ IN THE LITTLE AREA THAT IS GOING TO BE REZONED, I MEAN IT, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF SPACE THERE.

UM, AND I GUESS ONE OF OUR OTHER CONCERNS WITH MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE NOT BUILDING THESE HOMES TO SELL TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE KIND OF LIKE AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY AND JUST RENT IT OUT.

AND THAT, THAT ALSO KIND OF SADDENED US.

CAUSE I THINK WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO BUY HOMES.

AND I MEAN, I THINK IT'S KIND OF SAD IF WE'RE LETTING DEVELOPERS JUST BUILD INVESTMENT PROPERTIES TO HOLD ONTO AND NOT EVEN OFFERING THEM UP TO THE PUBLIC AND TO, TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE A SMALLER, UM, HOME AS OPPOSED TO THIS A SMALLER TOWN HOME AS OPPOSED TO JUST LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

BUT, BUT YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE.

SO THOSE WERE JUST SOME OF OUR CONCERNS.

AND ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVER GOT A MEETING NOTICE ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT'S AN ISSUE.

THANK YOU.

VERY ODDLY, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, I'D LIKE TO PULL IT.

OKAY.

SO THAT, UH, ITEM FOUR AND FIVE, IS THAT RIGHT? WILL BE PULLED.

AND THIS IS, UH, AND I'M JUST SPEAKING TO THE, UH, THE LA LAST SPEAKER, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE PULLING THE, UH, ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

SO, UM, THERE'LL BE A CHANCE TO, UH, LISTEN AND, UM, SPEAK ABOUT IT.

THANKS.

CHAIR COMMISSION, LAY LIAISON, AND FOR THE, UH, SPEAKER, UM, SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO REMAIN ON THE LINE.

SHE CAN CALL BACK IN.

I'LL BE SENDING AN EMAIL ABOUT 15 MINUTES PRIOR TO TAKING UP THAT ITEM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, NEXT, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? NOPE.

READY? OKAY.

UM, AND SO WE'RE PULLING FOUR AND FIVE.

AND SO LET'S GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS AGAIN.

[Consent Agenda ]

SO WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UM, THESE ARE THE ITEMS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 11TH.

UM, TWO PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, NPA 20 22 0 0 2, 6 0.21 GEORGIAN DRIVE, UH, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM THREE IS A REZONING, UH, THE MERLE SINGLE FAMILY C 14 20 22 0 86.

THAT IS DISCUSSION.

UM, WHICH JUST AS A REMINDER, WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE Q AND A HAS ALREADY BEEN CONDUCTED.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITH, UM, DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE.

UM, SO THESE NEXT TWO, FOUR, AND FIVE, THE PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 2, 8 0.02, JOHN WOODWAY, UM, AND FIVE, THE REZONING ON THAT ITEM ARE BOTH HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.

UH, SIX PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, NPA 20 19 0 0 1, 3 0.01 COPELAND SOUTH FOR CONSENT.

REZONING, UH, NUMBER SEVEN C 14, 20, 21 0 180 5, COPELAND SOUTH.

ALSO CONSENT REZONING NUMBER EIGHT C 14 20 21 0 82.

COPELAND CONSENT, UH, NUMBER NINE, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 81, FRANK SOUTH, UH, CONSENT.

AND THEN NUMBER 10 IS A REZONING C 14 20 22 76, 3100 GUADALUPE.

THAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT.

AND, UM, THAT IS NOVEMBER 12TH AT 5:00 PM UM, CHAIR LADIES AND ANDREA, THAT'S ON NOVEMBER 15TH AT 5:00 PM OH, OKAY.

WHO SENT THAT? SHE SENT IT.

OKAY.

SO IT IS NOVEMBER 15TH.

OKAY.

, UM, 11 SITE PLANS P 20 21 0 1 4 3 C EASTON, PART MIXED EXCUSE USE.

UM, THIS CONSENT SITE NUMBER 12, SITE PLAN EXTENSION S P 20 16 0 0 2 1 C, XTC ANONYMOUS, BR BREWERY.

THAT IS DISCUSSION.

UM, AND 13 PRELIMINARY PLAN C 8 20 21 0 1 5 2 PINNACLE AT WILD HORSE RANCH.

CONSENT 14 FINAL PLAT OUT OF AN APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN.

CJ 20 22 0 1, 77 0.1 A EASTON PARK CONSENT APPROVED WITH THE CONDITIONS FROM EXHIBIT C.

UM, NUMBER 15, CODE AMENDMENT HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS IS CONSENT.

16 CODE AMENDMENT RESIDENTIAL USE ON COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES.

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CODE AMENDMENT.

THAT IS FOR DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT, AND THAT IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, SO I NEED A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY, UH, SECOND IT BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

SO WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

CHAIR COMMISSION LEADS ON ANDREW, THAT'S TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL FOR APPLE POOL.

THAT INCLUDES CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.

UM, ALL THOSE IN THE CHAMBERS.

1, 2, 3, 4, AND ONLINE.

5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

SO WE HAVE, UM, 10 ZERO.

IS THAT OUR NUMBER? OKAY, .

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

[3. Rezoning: C14-2022-0086 - Merle Single Family; District 5 ]

SO WE WILL MOVE TO THE DISCUSSION CASES, UM, MYSELF IN ORDER HERE.

SO WE WILL HAVE, UH, NUMBER THREE REZONING, UM, PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON MERLE SINGLE FAMILY CHAIR COMMISSION, LAYNER.

SO WE'LL FIRST HEAR FROM SPEAKER APP, UH, THE APPLICANT FOR TWO MINUTES.

OKAY.

IT SHOULD BE A PRESENTATION.

LAST LIGHT, RIGHT, LAST CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AFTER THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, UH, FOR THIS CASE, WE LOOKED AT THE IMPACTS OF COMPATIBILITY THAT'S TRIGGERED BY THE PROPERTY.

THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER ONE AFTER THAT.

BEFORE, BEFORE THAT.

I'M SORRY.

YES, THAT ONE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN GREEN.

UH, THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY ARE SHOWN AS COMPATIBILITY TRIGGERING PROPERTIES.

AND YOU SEE THERE'S ONE THAT'S ALREADY TO THE NORTH BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS, UH, BEING USED AS SINGLE FAMILY.

AND SO THE THE FINE DASH LINES, UH, SHOW THE GRADATION OF COMPATIBILITY EXTENDING AWAY FROM WHAT IS EXISTING.

UH, UH, THAT GIVES, EXCUSE ME, THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE NORTH.

AND WITH 44 0 7 MERLE BEING ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY, ALL OF THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFERS ARE ALREADY ABSORBED INSIDE OF THE EXISTING COMPATIBILITY BUFFER.

SO THERE'S NOT ANY ADDITIONAL COMPATIBILITY TRIGGERED ON THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

AND WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE OPPOSITION, MS. WE, MS. WARE, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

AGAIN, MY NAME'S CATHERINE WEIR, AND I LIVE KITTY CORNER TO THE HOUSE IN QUESTION, PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

I LIVE AT 44 10 MERLE, I'M A BABY IN THE WOODS AT THIS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT UP CODE AND DOWN CODE AND THE COMPATIBILITY WAIVERS ARE.

I AM AN EXPERT IN SEEING LOT AFTER LOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, GOBBLED UP BY SPECULATORS WHO WANT TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN OFF OF EVERY ONE OF THOSE LOTS.

THIS IS NOT JUST A CRANKY OLD LADY ATTITUDE.

I HAD A YOUNG LADY FROM BRIGHTON, WHICH IS A LITTLE DEEPER IN SOUTHWOOD, STOPPED BY MY HOUSE RANDOMLY SATURDAY LOOKING FOR A KITTEN.

AND HER COMMENT WAS, SHE'S 20 SOMETHING GROWN UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SHE SAID, IT'S SO DISHEARTENING TO SEE LOT AFTER LOT HOUSE AFTER HOUSE TORN DOWN AND BIG UGLY THINGS BUILT THERE.

IT IS ALSO DISTURBING TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR DECADES, PAID TAXES FOR DECADES, VOTED FOR DECADES, PARTICIPATED IN AUSTIN CITY LIFE FOR DECADES, ARE EXPECTED TO JUST SIT AND WATCH THE DISSOLUTION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SURE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS.

THIS ITEMS AVAILABLE FOR DELIBERATION, BUT OKAY.

THANK YOU ANDREW.

THANK YOU MS. WEIR.

UM, SO WE HAVE HAD Q AND A ON THIS ALREADY, AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, SO WE WANNA HAVE DISCUSSION, WE'LL NEED A, UM, A, A MOTION IN A SECOND.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

OKAY,

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THANK YOU.

HEY, MR. THROWER, I THINK YOU'RE UP THERE.

YES.

I THINK LAST TIME WE TALKED AND STAFF, FEEL FREE TO THROW A BOOK AT ME IF I'M ASKING ANYTHING I'M NOT ALLOWED TO ASK.

BUT I THOUGHT WE HAD CHATTED ABOUT POTENTIALLY SOME KIND OF, UM, I THINK YOU WERE GONNA CHECK IN WITH YOUR CLIENT TO SEE IF YOUR CLIENT WAS WILLING TO NOT HAVE THE NEW ZONING OF YOUR PROPERTY TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY, BECAUSE TODAY IT DOESN'T.

AND THEN IN THE FUTURE IT WOULD, IF THAT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF YOURS, UM, IF THAT SINGLE FAMILY USE WAS TO GO AWAY TOMORROW, WHICH IT COULD, IT COULD BE AN OFFICE AGAIN TOMORROW, AND THEREFORE YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD THEN TRIGGER NEW, NEW AMOUNTS OF COMPATIBILITY TO YOUR NORTH.

SO WHERE DID THAT CONVERSATION GO, MR. THROW? BEFORE, BEFORE YOU ANSWER, UM, WE HAD ALREADY HAD Q AND A AT THE LAST, UH, MEETING, AND SO FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION.

IS THAT CORRECT? MR. AND MR. RIVER CHAIR COMMISSION, LADIES, ON AN, UM, SO IF YOU WISH TO MODIFY RULES, UM, IF YOU JUST WANT TO PROVIDE, UH, THE, UM, THE STIPULATIONS OF HOW MANY QUESTIONS AND HOW MANY COMMISSIONERS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE, UH, COMMISSION IS WILLING TO DO SO.

OKAY.

COMMISS THOMPSON, I, I'LL MOVE THAT WE ALLOW THREE MORE QUESTIONS.

THREE MINUTES EACH.

THREE MINUTES EACH NOTED.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, YOU NEED A VOTE? NEED A VOTE SECOND.

SORRY, SECOND IT BY COMMISSIONER ISAR, UH, VOTE IN THE CHAMBERS.

1, 2, 3, 4.

ONLINE, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

THAT IS 10 ZERO.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE Q AND A FOR THREE QUESTIONS, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THREE MINUTES EACH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, IN REGARDS TO THAT, I THINK THERE'S A LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IS CUZ TO NOT, NOT OPPOSE COMPATIBILITY.

THEN THE QUESTION IS, IS HOW IS THAT ENFORCED? IS IT A RESTRICTED COVENANT? IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PRIVATE RESTRICTED COVENANT.

WHO'S GONNA BE THE OTHER PARTY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? UH, WOULD IT BE JUST THAT ONE LANDOWNER THAT'S TO THE NORTH? WOULD IT BE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? WOULD IT BE THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES? AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE THAT WE'VE NOT EVER ADDRESSED, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE REZONING OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON A SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE, UH, COMPATIBILITY BEING TRIGGERED ON.

SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT OUR CLIENT IS UNWILLING TO DO IT, IT'S JUST WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT THE LOGISTICS TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION OF STAFF? UM, SO WE HEAR THAT WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE WHO WANTS A CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SEEM EXCITED ABOUT TRIGGERING COMPATIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.

IS THERE AN EASY OPTION FOR ANYBODY IN AUSTIN TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I GIVE UP THE RIGHT TO TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M WANTING TO DO.

UH, THIS IS WENDY ROSE WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

AND, UH, THAT COULD BE DONE BY, IF, I MEAN, IF, IF COMPATIBILITY WAS TRIGGERED IN THE FUTURE, THE, UH, THE OWNER OF THIS PARTICULAR LOT COULD SUBMIT CORRESPONDENCE, UM, STATING THAT THEY DON'T OBJECT TO A WAIVER OF COMPATIBILITY, AND THEN IT WOULD STILL TAKE THE PROCESS OF A COMMISSION OR A BOARD TO THEN GRANT THAT VARIANCE FROM COMPATIBILITY.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME TOBS IN, IN AUSTIN.

I KNOW THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT, THEY'RE ALL HODGEPODGE.

IT'S HALF OUR PROBLEM IN THE CITY, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S SOME THAT YOU CAN GET 66% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SIGN A LETTER WAIVING IT, AND THEN THE APPLICANT'S DONE WITH IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY REQUIRE ANYBODY ELSE AT THE CITY TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN VERIFY THAT, THAT THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE THE ONES THAT SIGNED THAT LETTER.

IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT OUTSIDE OF THOSE TODS? I'M, I, I'M SORRY.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THAT PROCESS.

GOTCHA.

I GUESS I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN ALL THE CONSULTANTS WERE HERE FROM ALL OVER THE AMERICA LOOKING AT OUR VERY OUTDATED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THEY PRETTY MUCH ALL COMMENTED ON THE FACT THAT COMPATIBILITY COSTS US MORE HOMES THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

IT'S JUST PRETTY INTERESTING THAT THERE'S NOT AN EASY MECHANISM FOR FOLKS WHO WILLINGLY WANT TO NOT TRIGGER IT TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.

UM, I GUESS THAT'S JUST A GOOD CONVERSATION FOR US TO CONTINUE THINKING THROUGH IN OUR HEADS AS WE'RE ABOUT TO LOOK AT COMPATIBILITY IN A FEW WEEKS.

THANK YOU .

UH, ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? WE HAVE TWO MORE SLOTS OPEN.

COMMISSIONER

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GIANNIS POLITO.

YES.

QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

AND, UM, I'LL APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE SINCE I, UH, WAS NOT PRESENT THE LAST MEETING.

BUT, UM, I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THESE UNITS.

THIS AREA IS GONNA BE SUBJECT TO THE MCMANSION ORDINANCE, SO IT'S GONNA BE LIMITED TO 0.4 TO ONE A.

UM, THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE UNITS, I MEAN THE ADU IS GONNA BE LIMITED 1100 SQUARE FEET AND THE, THE BALANCE OF THE ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE COULD BE PUT INTO THE PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE AND THE, THE SIZE, I DON'T KNOW THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IF YOU WANT EXACT NUMBERS, WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

AND UM, AND HOW MANY UNITS TOTAL? I'M SORRY.

THERE WOULD ONLY BE TWO UNITS ALLOWED.

OKAY.

THE PRINCIPAL AND THE ADU? CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

UM, WE WOULD NEED TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I, I'LL, UM, MOVE TO, UH, RECOMMEND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OR STAFF'S, UM, BUT ALSO TO, CAN I DO THIS TO RECOMMEND THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT COME WITH A A, UM, PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE CO COVENANT TO COUNSEL? NO.

OKAY.

I'LL RECOMMEND STEPH'S RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND COX.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COX.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A, A MOTION ON THE TABLE FROM COMMISSIONER THOMPSON WITH A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER COX.

UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? I, I, I AM, YOU KNOW, DISTURBED THAT IN, IN A TIME OF SORT OF A, A HOUSING CRISIS, WE'RE KIND OF DOWN ZONING THIS TO, YOU KNOW, ZONE IT BASICALLY AS A LUXURY ONE PLACE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO AN ADU I GUESS.

UM, AND, AND I WISH WE HAD BETTER TOOLS AND BETTER OPTIONS.

IT, YOU KNOW, MY GUESS IS THAT IF IT WERE EASY TO BUILD A FOURPLEX, THE THE OWNER WOULD BUILD A FOURPLEX THERE, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE TROUBLE, UH, OF A SITE PLAN AND, AND THE COMPLEXITY THERE.

UM, AND TO BE LIMITED BY COMPATIBILITY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE ONLY SORT OF PROFITABLE OPTION FOR THEM IS TO BUILD A, A MANSION.

UM, AND, AND I'M SORT OF DISAPPOINTED WITH THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S A HOUSING CRISIS AND WE NEED EVERYTHING WE CAN GET, SO.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING AGAINST ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR? ALL RIGHT.

ARE Y'ALL, I'M INITIALLY, I'M OKAY.

I'LL SPEAK NEUTRALLY IF I CAN JUST REALLY QUICK.

OKAY.

UM, I'LL ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND JUST SAY THAT I, WHILE I AM INTERESTED IN SEEING ADDITIONAL TOOLS, UM, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE MARKET FORCES HERE AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, THERE IS A DEMAND FOR THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

UM, IT'S NOT MY, IT'S NOT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NECESSARILY, UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT THERE, THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN IN MIND AS WELL IS THE MARKET DEMAND.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANNA SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY SPEAK FOR GO AHEAD COMMISSION.

I UNDERSTAND MAYBE, UM, I, I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER CARMEN JANNIS BELIEVES JUST SHARED.

AND THAT IS JUST THE, THE MARKET FORCES AND WHAT THE MARKET'S TRYING TO BUILD AND WHAT PEOPLE IN AUSTIN WANT.

AND THEN EXTREME LIMITATIONS OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT DON'T ALLOW FOR WHAT MOST OF THE MARKET WANTS RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE ALLOW FOR ONE AND TWO HOMES TO TAKE OVER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS CITY AND WE LIMIT IT TO THE HIGHEST OF INCOME EARNERS THAT CAN AFFORD THAT TYPE OF HOUSING.

AND WE DON'T OPEN UP THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO MIDDLE MIS, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE INCOME EARNERS WHO CAN PULL THEIR RESOURCE TOGETHER AND FOUR THEM OR SIX OF THEM CAN ALSO BUY INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUILD A FOURPLEX OR A SIXPLEX.

OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS MAKING POSITIVELY SURE THAT WE ARE GONNA DISPLACE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY AND IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO DO SO.

AND IT'S DEVASTATING.

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IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLY DEVASTATING.

UM, YEAH, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, MY DAYTIME IS WITH AUSTIN HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

WE RECEIVED ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL LETTERS I'VE EVER READ MY ENTIRE LIFE THIS WEEK, AND IT JUST TALKED ABOUT THE UNBELIEVABLE HEARTACHE THAT THIS FAMILY HAS HAD TO GO THROUGH FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.

AND SHE HAS CHILDREN AND THEY'VE HAD TO MOVE AND THEY'VE HAD TO MOVE AND THEY'VE HAD TO MOVE AND THEY'VE HAD TO MOVE AND THEY'VE HAD TO LIVE WITH MULTIPLE FAMILIES BREAKING OUR OCCUPANCY LIMITS.

BUT THEY DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO, TO SURVIVE AND WE MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO JUST LIVE HERE AFFORDABLY.

AND MY HOPE IS ONE DAY WE ARE LESS AFRAID OF BIGGER AND TOLER BUILDINGS THAN WE ARE OF UNAFFORDABILITY AND DISPLACEMENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE STILL HAVE SOME, UH, SLOTS FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SHALL WE TAKE A VOTE THEN? ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION AGAIN ON THE TABLE IS, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND SECOND IT BY COMMISSIONER COX.

SO ON THE DIAS, 1, 2, 3, 4.

SO WE'VE GOT FOUR THOMPSON PLEASE, , AND, UH, A 4 1 2, 3, 4, 5 ONLINE AND THEN ONE ABSTENTION 9 0 1.

YEAH, SO THAT IS PASSES 9 0 1.

OKAY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS ON THIS CASE, AS IN AS INFORMATION IS SCHEDULED FOR THE 3RD OF NOVEMBER AT CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, WE SHALL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT DISCUSSION CASE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

SO, UM,

[Items 4 & 5 ]

WE NOW HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, IS THAT CORRECT? DOUBLE YES.

FOUR AND FIVE, I BELIEVE WE'RE CONSIDERING THOSE TOGETHER.

UM, YES.

SO WE HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION RE MEREDITH HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

ITEM NUMBER FI FOUR IS PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 2 8 0.02, JOHN WOOD, 33 DEGREES.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT TEN SIX HUNDRED JOHN WOODWAY WITHIN THE HERITAGE HILLS WINDSOR HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA.

THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO HIGHER DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY LAND USE.

IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF RECOMMEND.

WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM THE HERITAGE HILLS, WINDSOR HILLS PLANNING CONTACT TEAM.

IT DID NOT STATE A RECOMMENDATION.

IT DID LIST, UH, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS LATE BACKUP.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

HEATHER CHAFFIN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT WITH THE RELATED REZONING, WHICH IS C 14 20 20 2085, LOCATED AT TEN SIX HUNDRED JOHN WOOD WAY.

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM SF TWO N P TO SF SIX N P.

THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE AND A HALF ACRES.

THE PROPERTY IS SIGNIFICANTLY CONSTRAINED BY, UH, CREEK BUFFER WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONE AND ALSO VEGETATION.

UH, THE SOUTHWEST PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPERTY IS THE CENTER LINE OF A SEGMENT OF WALNUT CREEK.

AND THEN IN THE AERIAL EXHIBIT, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH OF THE SITE IS, UH, CONSUMED BY THE CREEK BUFFER.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE TERMINUS OF JOHN WOODWAY AND HAS NO OTHER STREET FRONTAGE, BUT THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST THAT FRONT'S DESSA ROAD IS UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP AND APPLICANT HAS STATED THEIR INTENT TO DEVELOP IT AS ONE COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THE NORTH IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA, NEIGHBORHOOD WITH P U D N P AND SF TWO N P ZONING.

MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND WEST ARE ALSO SF TWO N P AND DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES FURTHER SOUTH.

OUR PROPERTIES ZONED SF THREE NP AND SF SIX C O N P DEVELOPED WITH RESIDENTIAL USES.

UH, EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS THE OTHER TRACT OWNED BY, UH, THE SAME OWNER.

IT'S ZONED SF SIX

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C O N P AND IS UNDEVELOPED CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS ON THAT PROPERTY.

WERE ESTABLISHED IN 2003 AND LIMITED RESIDENTIAL AND DAYCARE LAND USES.

FURTHER EAST ACROSS DESAW ROAD ARE SF TWO, SF ONE AND SF SIX CO N P UH, PROPERTIES WITH A MIX OF DEVELOPED AND UNDEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL.

UH, THERE'S CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND IT WAS SUBMITTED TODAY IN LATE BACKUP STAFF SUPPORTS THE REZONING REQUEST.

SF SIX N P PARTICULARLY ENCOURAGES CLUSTERED DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS SITE WITH THE CREEK BUFFERS IS, IS VERY LIMITED AND PARTICULARLY UNDER SF TWO NP, THE, UH, SF SIX NP DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS, UH, AT AS SF TWO.

AND, UH, IF IT'S COMBINED WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE FURTHER ABLE TO MAKE A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT, UH, ON THIS CONSTRAINED SITE.

UH, THIS REFLECTS THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD ADD TOWNHOUSE CONDOMINIUM RESIDENTIAL IN AN AREA THAT'S PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

AND THAT REFLECTS GIVING A VARIETY OF HOUSING OPTIONS, HOUSING TYPES REFLECTED FROM THE AUSTIN HOUSING BLUEPRINT.

AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR ONE.

I HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, MS. AMANDA BROWN.

MS. BROWN, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A CLICKER? YOU'LL JUST STATE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

OKAY, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS AMANDA BROWN.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I'M HERE IN, UH, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT A REZONING AND A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT AT THOUSAND SIX.

JOHN WOODWAY SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, THIS IS A LOCATION MAP THAT GENERALLY JUST ORIENTS YOU AS TO WHERE WE ARE.

UM, EAST OF 35, YOU CAN SEE, UM, SAMSUNG OVER THERE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE EAST AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS A ZEROED IN LOCATION OF THE MAP.

YOU CAN SEE JOHN WOOD WAY STUBS INTO OUR PROPERTY, UM, AND THEN DECAL THERE TO, UM, THE EAST.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD AMENDMENT IS GOING FROM SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH IS THE CURRENT, UM, FROM DESIGNATION TO HIGHER DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING ZONING MAP.

SO, UM, OURS IS CURRENTLY ZONED SF TWO AND THERE TO THE EAST YOU CAN SEE SF SIX C O N P.

SO MY CLIENT OWNS BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES.

THE INTENT IS TO DEVELOP A MORE COHESIVE TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL TAKE PRIMARY ACCESS FROM DAAL.

WE, UM, OUR PREFERENCE IS TO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO JOHN WOODWAY, UM, AND HAVE IT AS EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.

ATD WAS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THAT AT THIS TIME, BUT THAT MAY BE WORKED OUT LATER WITH THE SITE PLAN AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

UM, THE, UH, CO OF THE SF SIX ALSO LIMITS THE SITE TO 30 DWELLING UNITS TOTAL AND FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, COMPATIBILITY IS TRIGGERED FROM ALL OF THE SF TWO PROPERTIES.

SO THERE WILL BE, UM, PLENTY OF BUFFERING.

UH, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER IS 55%, HEIGHT IS 35 FEET.

THAT IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE SF TWO AS WELL.

SO WE EXPECT THEM TO BE VERY COMPATIBLE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS A HEAVILY CONSTRAINED SITE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND THE ASSOCIATED BUFFER OUTLINED IN THERE.

UH, ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT ALLOWED IN EITHER THE CREEK OR THE BUFFER.

SO, UM, THREE-FOURTHS OF THE SITE IS UNDEVELOPABLE.

I THINK THERE'S MAYBE AN ACRE AND A HALF THAT'S AVAILABLE.

UM, THERE ARE HERITAGE TREES ON THE SITE, THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.

WE EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO PUT AROUND NINE TO MAYBE 11 UNITS ON THIS SITE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS HERE.

I THINK WE'VE HAD AROUND SIX MEETINGS WITH VARIOUS PARTIES, UH, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN, IN THIS.

THERE IS, UM, IN THAT CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.

THE PREVIOUS OWNER, HIS NAME IS DR.

ROCK, HAS ALLOWED THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH TO USE HIS LAND IN THAT CREEK AREA, ESSENTIALLY AS A PARK.

UM, A VERY PASSIVE PARK, NATURAL, UM, UNAPPROVED.

UH, AND THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC ACCESS TO THAT.

UM, OUR CLIENT WAS FINE WITH THAT.

SO OUR SOLUTION WAS TO ASK PARD IF WE COULD PUT IT IN, UM, AS PARKLAND DEDICATION.

UH, REALLY JUST TO SORT OF FORMALIZE PUBLIC ACCESS.

UH, WE WORKED WITH PARD AND THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT IDEA.

SO AS WE MOVE TO THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA BE KIND OF FORMALIZING THAT AS WELL.

BUT AS IT'S CURRENTLY PLANNED AND CONTEMPLATED, THERE'S NO, NO IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA BE MADE NO

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TRAILS.

UM, IT'S REALLY INTENDED TO BE LEFT COMPLETELY NATURAL, WHICH WAS THE REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

NOW ON THE TELECONFERENCE, UH, WE STILL HAVE, UH, MR. HAN.

MR. HAN, YOU'LL HAVE, UM, THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS IF YOU SELECT STAR SIX, I'M SORRY, WHO WERE YOU SPEAKING WITH OR TWO? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT WAS ME.

YES MA'AM.

PROCEED.

OH, UM, OKAY.

UM, I GUESS GENERALLY MY REMARKS WOULD BE THAT, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A MEETING REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK NUMEROUS CONCERNS AND ISSUES WERE BROUGHT UP, SOME OF WHICH WERE CONCERNED FOR THE, THE NEW POTENTIAL RESIDENTS THERE JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE CREEK AND THE FLOOD AREA AND THE LIMITED BUILDING CONSTRAINTS.

ANOTHER BIG ISSUE THAT WE HAD WAS JUST THE INCREASED TRAFFIC.

UM, I BELIEVE IS MISS I, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH HER NAME.

AMANDA BROWN, I BELIEVE, INDICATED THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO JOHN WOOD.

THAT WAS STATED AT ONE POINT DURING THE MEETINGS THAT I ATTENDED.

HOWEVER, WHAT WAS ALSO STATED WAS THAT THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE GRANTED.

AND SO THAT THEY BELIEVED THAT ALL THAT EXCESS TRAFFIC DUE TO LIMITED ACCESS TO DECAL WOULD THEN HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE CLAY WOOD COLLINWOOD, UM, ROADS AND, AND INCREASE THE TRAFFIC THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY REQUIREMENT TO DO SOME KIND OF TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IF THERE'S BEEN ANY KIND OF REQUIREMENT TO LOOK AT, UM, THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

BUT AS I INDICATED, OUR ROADS ARE FAIRLY NARROW.

UH, PEOPLE PARK IN THE STREET ALL THE TIME.

IF YOU TURN ONTO CLAY WOOD FROM COLLINWOOD, THERE ARE REGULARLY TWO CARS THERE THAT ARE, THAT ARE PARKED RIGHT ON THE CORNER.

SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

AND HONESTLY, THE, THE THOUGHT OF THE INCREASED TRAFFIC IS KIND OF A CONCERN.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T HEAR MS. BROWN SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT THESE UNITS WERE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO PURCHASE, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS AT LEAST MORE AMENABLE TO KIND OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING WHEN I THOUGHT THAT THESE MIGHT BE MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES FOR PEOPLE TO PURCHASE.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN TO PURCHASE THAT.

THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE RENTAL UNITS, UM, HELD FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES.

AND I MEAN, I THINK THAT MADE ALL OF US KIND OF SAD JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE KNOW THERE'S AN AFFORDABILITY CRISIS AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THAT'S NECESSARILY HELPING.

BUT, UM, I KNOW OUR GENERAL CONCERNS ARE JUST KIND OF INCREASED TRAFFIC AND WONDERING IF THERE'S BEEN ANY ATTENTION PAID TO WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE TO THESE SMALL, THESE SMALL STREET ON CLAY WOOD, AMBLE WOOD, JOHN WOOD, UM, THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED FOR A LOT OF CARS.

UM, AND THEN KIND OF CONCERN FOR WHAT WOULD BE BUILT THERE AND IT'S IMPACT ON FLOODING.

UM, EVEN JUST FOR THE HOUSES THAT ARE GONNA BE BUILT THERE JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS, UM, CONCERNS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OF THOSE EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GET TO THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE SMALL STREETS.

UM, AND THEN YEAH, LIKE I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT THIS, BUT THE FACT THAT THESE AREN'T UNITS THAT ARE BEING PLANNED TO MY KNOWLEDGE FOR SALE, UM, TO KIND OF HELP PEOPLE TO START BUILDING WEALTH AND TO KIND OF REMAIN IN THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY, UM, AS ACTUAL HOMEOWNERS AND HAVING A PART IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY SADDENED US.

UM, THE PARK DEDICATION WAS BROUGHT UP.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WAS PARK DEDICATION BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE THEY COULD DO WITH IT.

UM, SO THAT THEY INDICATED THEY WERE BASICALLY JUST GONNA LET IT BE AS IT WAS, WHICH I MEAN OKAY , BUT I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT'S A DEDICATION OF PARK LANE.

THAT'S, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I BENEFIT YES, THE FINAL, IF YOU HAVE ANY FINAL REMARKS JUST TO WRAP IT UP, PLEASE.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE WOULD JUST APPRECIATE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UM, AND KIND OF MORE CONSIDERATION OF SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I RAISED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CHAIR ONE.

I'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

UM, JUST A, A COUPLE CLARIFICATIONS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A, AN ATTACHED TOWN HOME, UM, DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR RENT WITH ONSITE AMENITIES.

UM, WE HOPE TO REALLY ALSO TAKE ADVANTAGE AND BEAUTIFY THE PARK AREA AS WELL FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO USE.

UM, IT'LL BE PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED BY A COMPANY.

UM, AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING CRISIS IS VERY COMPLICATED AND WE DO NEED MORE HOMES FOR PEOPLE TO BE,

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BE ABLE TO PURCHASE, BUT THIS IS ALSO A PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE AS WELL.

AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF HOUSING DIVERSITY FOR THIS AREA.

UM, WE WILL NOT BE TRIGGERING A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UM, BUT UM, THAT THAT'LL BE FURTHER DETERMINED AT THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS.

UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SO LEMME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU CHAIR THAT CAN TOWARDS THE SPEAKERS ON THIS, ON HIM.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE, UM, MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY COMMISSIONER SHAY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER ON THE DIAS.

1, 2, 3, 4.

AND ONLINE WE'VE GOT FIVE.

SO WE'VE GOT, UH, NINE ZERO WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER MUSH TALLER OFF OF THE DICE.

OKAY.

SO WE'VE GOT QUESTIONS.

ANY COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

UH, COMMISSIONER COX.

YEAH.

TO THE APPLICANT.

UM, YOU HAD JUST MENTIONED THE IDEA OF BEAUTIFYING THE PARKLAND AND YOU SAID FOR USE BY YOUR RESIDENTS.

WOULD THIS PARKLAND BE AVAILABLE TO ALL OR ARE YOU THINKING OF LIKE THIS BEING A GATED COMMUNITY WITH THE PROPERTY NOT ACCESSIBLE BY THE PUBLIC? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.

SO, UM, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR, FOR EVERYBODY.

SO WHEN WE COME IN FOR THE SITE PLAN, IT'LL EITHER BE DEDICATED BY DEED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR THEM TO OWN AND MAINTAIN, UM, OR A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT WILL BE ENCUMBERING THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO FORMALIZE THE PUBLIC'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT.

FURTHERMORE, WE, WHILE WE MAY HAVE SOME COMPONENT OF A GATED COMMUNITY, WE CAN'T PUT A GATE IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND THAT THAT EASEMENT WOULD ALSO PRECLUDE US FROM BEING ABLE TO GATE THE PARK AT ALL.

BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS JOHN WOODWAY DEAD ENDS.

IT DOES HAVE SIDEWALKS ON IT THAT CONNECT UP TO THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, IT IS, IS IT EXPECTED THAT THAT SIDEWALK WILL CONNECT TO THIS DEDICATED PARKLAND SOMEHOW? YES.

SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE EASY ACCESS TO IT? YEAH, THAT, THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

IS THAT AT, AT SOMEWHERE TO THE NORTH WILL HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF ACCESS EASEMENT TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET DOWN TO THE PARK.

OKAY.

AND JUST SO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE, THE MAP THAT YOU SHOWED THAT SHOWED THE, THE BUFFER I LOOKED UP, THE FLOOD PLAIN MAPS, FLOOD PLAINS, NOT AN ISSUE ON THIS PROPERTY.

UM, BUT JUST THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE PIECE THAT YOU HAVE LEFT, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT THIS TOWN HOME COMMUNITY, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED THIS, UM, EARLIER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T WANT TO ACCESS JOHN WOODWAY, BUT HOW, WHAT, WHAT OTHER ACCESS WOULD YOU HAVE TO THE PROPERTY IF YOU DIDN'T GO FROM JOHN WOODWAY? SURE.

NO, GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF OURS THAT IS ZONED S F SIX CO N P, UM, IS, IS OUR CLIENT ALSO OWNS IT.

SO IT'S GONNA BE ONE COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S JUST ALREADY ZONED SF SIX.

SO WE'RE REZONING THIS ONE TO MATCH THE ADJACENT SITE.

AND SO THROUGH THAT SITE WE'LL BE TAKING ACCESS DIRECTLY FROM DAAL, WHICH WILL BE OUR PRIMARY ACCESS POINT.

OH, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF A MUCH LARGER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PART OF THAT PROPERTY TO THE EAST, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ARE YOU ALSO GONNA TIE UP TO THE DEAD END AT CLAY WOOD DRIVE AND THEN HAVE A WAY FOR THOSE FOLKS TO GET TO DESAL ROAD? UH, THAT'LL HAVE TO BE FIGURED OUT WITH THE SITE PLAN.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK AS OF YET.

THAT'LL BE ENTIRELY UP TO THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. .

SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO, UM, SO IN LOOKING AT IT, I MEAN YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND WITH THE SF SIX, TYPICALLY THE SS SIX IS CLOSER TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I MEAN, IF IT WAS JUST ONE SIDE, IT'S LIKE, IT'S COMPLETELY AT THE KIND OF, AT THE BACK END.

SO IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE THAT ADJACENT SITE, WHICH YOU HAVE.

AND I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE IDEA OF PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER.

UM, AND I CAN SEE THIS WHOLE THING WORKING BEAUTIFULLY, YOU KNOW, TAKING ACCESS FROM DESKS OUT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER ADDITIONAL RESIDUAL ACCESS, LIKE EMERGENCY ACCESS FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

BUT, UM, MY CONCERN HERE IS HOW DO WE MEMORIALIZE THIS GOING FORWARD? BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE, THERE, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE WHERE, UM, THERE COULD BE AN AGREEMENT THAT THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THE ACCESS AS MUCH, YOU KNOW, FROM ONE SIDE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS, UM, FROM ONE SIDE AS YOU KNOW, UNLESS OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY REQUIRES, THEN YOU'LL DO WHATEVER FINAL MINIMUM STANDARD IS.

BUT, UM, IF THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY

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TO HAVE SOME AGREEMENT IN PLACE, JUST, JUST JUST SO WE KNOW, CUZ MY CONCERN IS IF THEY SAY NO ALL ACCESS FROM ONE SIDE, THEN THE WHOLE SF SIX CONCEPT FALLS APART.

SO SOME WAY TO KIND OF KEEP THAT IN INTACT.

SO AS WE MOVE INTO COUNCIL AND, UH, I MEAN THEY MIGHT EVEN REQUEST SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'D BE A GREAT WAY TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN MEMORIALIZE IN THERE AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN JUST A LIST OF THINGS LIKE WITH THE COMMITMENT OF THE PARKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? MM-HMM.

.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER SHAY, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING MEMORIALIZING THE EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY ONTO JOHN WOODWAY? WELL, AT LEAST THE INTENT UNLESS THE CITY'S REQUIRING IT.

RIGHT.

GOT IT.

YEAH.

SO YOU STILL HAVE A WAY, IF THE CITY SAYS NO, WE NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL, THEN YOU'LL, YOU'LL YOU GOTTA DO IT, RIGHT? SURE, SURE.

I MEAN, OTHERWISE IT'LL KILL YOUR DEVELOPMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, CUZ I THINK YOU COULD TAKE SOME ACCESS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BLOW APART THE, THE IDEA OF HOW AN SS SIX IS SUPPOSED TO BE WITHIN A COMMUNITY AND SUCH.

SO IN MY EXPERIENCE, THERE HAS, I HAVE SEEN WHERE YOU CAN DO A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT LIMITS ACCESS TO A CERTAIN ROAD ROADWAY TO EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.

AND WE, WE ARE FINE WITH THAT.

UH, WE DID ASK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY COULD NOT RECOMMEND SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THIS TIME.

MM-HMM.

JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT A DESIGN OR ANYTHING MM-HMM.

.

UM, BUT, BUT WE ARE FINE WITH THAT.

WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE LEAD ACCESS FROM DECAL, UM MM-HMM.

, SO THAT'S FINE WITH US.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO PROPOSE AS A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, YOU MIGHT WANNA CHECK WITH THE EXPERT, HEATHER.

OH, .

UM, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.

AS FAR AS THE PARK, UM, SO THERE ARE MECHANISMS IN PLACE AT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHERE YOU CAN GET AN EARLY DETERMINATION LETTER PUT IN PLACE PRIOR TO ACTUALLY FILING A SITE PLAN, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, WE HAVE SUBMITTED THAT AND, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY DETAILS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK OUT VERSUS WHETHER WE MAINTAIN IT, THEY MAINTAIN IT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE WERE UNABLE TO GET A VERY SPECIFIC EARLY DETERMINATION LETTER, BUT, UM, THOMAS RAWLINSON DID SEND US, UM, AN EMAIL CONFIRMING THAT THEY WERE OKAY WITH THIS PARKLAND PROPOSITION MM-HMM.

, THEY WILL ACCEPT IT AT THE SITE PLAN.

UM, HE ACTUALLY WENT OUT ON SITE WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL, UM, AND UNDERSTANDS THEIR CONCERNS VERY CLEARLY.

SO WE DO HAVE EMAIL DOCUMENTATION OKAY.

UM, FOR THE, FOR THE PARKS.

SO IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF OTHER, BUT IT IS, SO IT IS CONSIDERED A PARK DEFICIENT AREA THEN? UH, YES.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

SO YEAH, I KIND OF KNOW WHAT PARKLAND'S GONNA GO WITH THAT THEN.

UM, OKAY.

I'M TRYING TO THINK IF I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT.

I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? MUSH TALLER, I GUESS, UM, I, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS, I, IS THERE A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ON YOUR ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT I THIS TO THE APPLICANT? SORRY.

UH, YES.

THERE IS A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT LIMITS THE, THAT PARTICULAR SITE TO 30 UNITS.

UM, A LITTLE OVER FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.

I THINK IT'S LIKE 4.09.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S A USE RESTRICTION FOR DAYCARES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THEN I GUESS I HAVE A, IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SPEAKER IS STILL AVAILABLE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR HER.

DO WE KNOW MR. RIVERA, UH, CHAIR COMMISSION LIAISON ANDREW RIVERA? YES.

THE, THE, UM, I'M, I'VE GOT MY KIDS SO I MUTE MYSELF AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

UM, UH, IN GENERAL, I KNOW THAT AF D TENDS TO BE AGAINST EMERGENCY ACCESS POINTS THAT ARE NOT REGULAR TRAVELED ROUTES FOR INTERCONNECT ABILITY.

UM, AND I, I TEND TO STAND WITH THAT.

I WONDERED IF THERE WAS ANY NEIGHBORHOOD REQUEST SENTIMENT OR COMMENTARY ON HAVING A ROADWAY.

IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WERE TWO ROADWAYS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD ACCESS THIS PROPERTY IF WE GIVE THEM CONTIGUOUS SF SIX.

SO I WONDERED IF THERE WAS ANY CONCERN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT HAVING THE CONNECTABILITY THAT WOULD GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ANOTHER POINT FOR EMERGENCY TO GET OUT ONTO DESSA AND FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GET IN, UH, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW DENSER DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.

I THINK OUR GENERAL CONCERN WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE ACCESS.

EXACTLY.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS ALSO THAT THE KIND OF LIKE EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY WAS NOT, UH, FAVORABLY LOOKED UPON.

UM, AND SO SOME OF OUR CONCERNS WERE JUST WHAT I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT WE'RE THINKING THE ACCESS TO DEATH

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A IS GONNA BE HELPFUL.

UM, I THINK WE STILL KIND OF ANTICIPATE THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEIR ACCESS TO DESSA IS NOT GONNA BE LIKE FULL ACCESS TO DESSA.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GETTING A CURB CUT SO THAT THEY CAN TURN LEFT.

UM, AND, AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO SPEAK WITH MS. BROWN TO GET BETTER INFORMATION ABOUT JUST WHAT SORT OF ACCESS THEY'RE GETTING ON DESSA.

BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE THAT A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC TO TURN LEFT ON DESSA, I GUESS TO GO NORTH WOULD BE MORE USEFUL, BUT TO TURN NORTH ON DESSA THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH OUR STREETS.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD SOME CONCERN THAT IF THERE WAS EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT NEEDED TO TAKE PLACE, SOME OF THAT MIGHT ALSO NEED TO TAKE PLACE USING COLLINWOOD AND CLAY WOOD AND SOME OF OUR SMALLER STREETS.

AND, AND I THINK NOW, UM, THOSE VEHICLES CAN KIND OF GO TO THEIR DEAD END AND THEN JUST KIND OF USE THOSE DEAD ENDS TO MANEUVER PRETTY EASILY.

UM, BUT IF THERE'S DEVELOPMENT THERE, WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW ACCESSIBLE THOSE PLACES ARE GOING TO BE.

UM, SO YES, WE, THE AFD WEIGH IN ON THAT WHEN THEY GET TO SITE PLAN AND STUFF, SO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND UM, MS. BROWN, IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? ARE WE LIMITED ON THE CURB CUT TO DESSA FOR YOUR INGRESS AND EGRESS YOUR MAIN INGRESS AND EGRESS? UH, YES.

WE ARE LIMITED THERE.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GONNA GO, BUT THERE IS THE CREEK A PART OF THE PROPERTIES OVER A BRIDGE.

UM, AND THERE ARE MEDIANS ALSO ON DECAL THAT WILL LIMIT WHERE THE CREW CUTS CAN GO.

IS IT GOING, DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S LIMITED TO ONE DIRECTION? I BELIEVE IT'LL BE RIGHT AND RIGHT OUT ONLY DUE TO A MEDIAN.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

DEPENDING ON EXACTLY WHERE IT GOES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER AZAR, MR. H AND I SAW IT FELT LIKE YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ON THE ISSUE OF, UH, IN YOUR SECRETS.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.

YES, WE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, ATD AND ALTHOUGH IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW PROJECTS WHERE A SITE WAS LIMITED, UH, TO EMERGENCY ONLY ACCESS, UH, THIS FOR BY, FIRST OF ALL BY FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, IT'S, WE WOULD JUST FEEL THAT IT'S PREMATURE AT THIS TIME TO, UH, LABEL WHERE ACCESS IS WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

CHAIR.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER GS POLITO.

THANK YOU.

QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THESE WERE, SORRY, I CAN'T SEE ACTUALLY CLOSE BY.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD.

SHE'S AT THE PODIUM.

SHE'S AT THE MIC.

OKAY.

SORRY, THE CAMERA IS NOT QUITE, UH, KEEPING UP, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I SEE.

I SEE YOUR HAND.

THANK YOU.

UM, YOU MENTIONED THESE ARE RENTAL UNITS.

UM, AND CAN YOU, UH, CAN YOU QUICKLY JUST SAY HOW MANY AND THE SIZE OF THESE UNITS, EVEN IF THERE'S A RANGE? SURE.

YEAH, IT'LL BE A DETACHED TOWN HOME TYPE DEVELOPMENT, FOUR TO FIVE ATTACHED UNITS.

UM, WE ARE EXPECTING THIS SITE TO PROBABLY HAVE BETWEEN NINE AND 12, SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT RANGE.

UM, AND THEN THE ADJACENT SITE IS LIMITED TO 30, SO WE WOULD JUST ASSUME AROUND PROBABLY 40 TOTAL.

UM, AS OF NOW, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS, ARE, ARE GONNA BE, BUT GENERALLY THEY RANGE BETWEEN UM, 1300 TO LIKE 2100, 1300 TO 2100 SQUARE FEET.

THANK YOU.

AND THE, UM, OF THOSE, UM, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THE, THE RENT LIKE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT OF THE RENTS FOR THOSE? NO, UNFORTUNATELY NOT YET.

THEY WILL BE MARKET RENT, UM, UH, MARKET RATE, EXCUSE ME.

UM, BUT THAT'S JUST SO HARD TO TELL ON THE TIMES MARKET.

UM, BUT AT WHEN THEY COME ONLINE IT WILL BE MARKET.

UM, A COUPLE MORE THINGS ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THESE IS WHILE THEY ARE ATTACHED, THEY WILL EACH HAVE THEIR OWN, UM, INDIVIDUAL GARAGES.

THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS TO, THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT.

EACH WILL HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL YARD, BACKYARD AS WELL, ALL MAINTAINED, UM, BY THE OWNER.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, OH, GO AHEAD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'VE GOT THREE MORE SLOTS.

CHAIR.

SUPER QUICK.

ONE, UM, APPLICANT, IF YOU'RE STILL THERE, HOPEFULLY YOU ARE.

UM, AND, AND SORRY IF YOU ALREADY REPEATED THIS, SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

YOU'LL HAVE ROUGHLY 40 HOMES TOTAL IF YOU WERE NOT TO GET THESE ZONING CHANGES.

DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK OF WHAT COULD BE BUILT HERE? UNDERSTANDING, YOU PROBABLY WALK AWAY FROM THE DEAL AND IT WOULD JUST SIT UNDEVELOPED, BUT SURE.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE BUILT HERE ON THE CURRENT ZONING? SURE.

THE, UM,

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WELL IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED SF TWO, SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SUBDIVIDED TO ACCOMMODATE PROBABLY THREE, MAYBE FOUR HOMES LARGER, OF COURSE.

AND, YOU KNOW, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE FOR SALE.

AND THAT WAS THREE TO FOUR TOTAL.

TOTAL, YEAH, UNDERSTOOD.

UM, ON THE SF TWO SITE, NOT THE ENTIRE SITE, NOT, NOT THE ADJACENT SF SIX SITE.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, GOOD.

YEAH, COMMISSIONER, SHE, YEAH.

UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? A SECOND.

WE DO A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER COX.

OH, COMMISSIONER COX.

OKAY.

SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO, UH, RECOMMEND STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COX SO WE CAN HAVE, UH, DISCUSSION.

SO COMMISSIONER SHAY, DO YOU HAVE A, I THINK, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SF SIX IS, IS REALLY A WONDERFUL TOOL AND IT ALLOWS A SITE TO BE REALLY CUSTOMIZED TO WHAT THE, WHAT THE SITUATION ALLOWS.

AND THIS IS ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE SF SIX NEXT TO IT, AND IF THIS ONE BECOMES, UH, THE SAME, IT IT YOU, YOU'RE ABLE TO USE KIND OF THE BENEFITS OF THE OVERALL SITE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO REACT TO WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.

HERE.

WE HAVE THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, WE HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS, AND NOW THAT YOU HAVE A LARGER AREA AS WELL AS MORE ACCESS POINTS, WE COULD EVEN BETTER CUSTOMIZE WHERE THINGS COME IN AND OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, INTO THE SITE.

UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT IF THE, IF THIS WAS SF TWO BY ITSELF TURNING SF SIX IN THIS KIND OF LANDLOCKED AREA, THAT WOULD WORK.

BUT IT WORKS BECAUSE IT'S PART OF, UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER SF SIX, UM, SITE.

UM, AND ESPECIALLY IN, IN TIMES LIKE THIS WHERE WE ARE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS, IF THIS THING GOT CHOPPED UP AND SLICED UP INTO MORE, UM, STREETS AND SUCH, IT, IT WOULD BE, I THINK, MORE DETRIMENTAL THAN WHAT A, UH, HOMOGENOUS SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT COULD GIVE US.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE SINGLE, UH, WATER QUALITY WITH, UM, WATER DETENTION, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE THAN JUST DOING SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THERE.

SO, UH, IN SO MANY WAYS THIS, THIS IS A GREAT S OF SIX, UH, PROPERTY, SO THANKS.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST? COMMISSIONER COX? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR SECOND? I MEAN, TO ME, THIS, THE BALL'S ALREADY ROLLING ON THIS WITH THE ADJACENT, UH, SF SIX LOT.

UM, THE PROPERTY WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE IS RELATIVELY SMALL AND IT'S A RELATIVELY, LOOKS LIKE A RELATIVELY SMALL COMPONENT OF THAT LARGER DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I'M ALSO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PARKLAND, UH, ESPECIALLY IF, IF IT CAN BE UNIFIED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE, HAVE CONNECTION TO, TO, UH, DECAL ROAD AND HOPEFULLY BENEFIT THE PEOPLE OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS WITH, WITH AN ADDITIONAL PARK.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

ANY COMMISSIONERS AGAINST NEUTRAL COMMISSIONER YAS POLI, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WILL ECHO THE COMMENTS OF THE, THE PROS OF SF SIX.

I LIKE SEEING MORE IN BETWEEN OPTIONS.

UM, AND MY AMBIVALENCE AROUND THIS IS SIMPLY AROUND THE CONVERSATION OF HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY.

UM, BECAUSE I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS IS 78, 7 53 IN THE ZIP CODE.

THE PER CAPITA INCOME IS AROUND 26,000, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA COMPARED TO 44 CITYWIDE.

AND THE RENTS IN THIS AREA AROUND 1400 A MONTH.

SO JUST LOOKING AT THE WAY CURRENT MARKET PER SQUARE FOOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOUBLING.

IT'S, IT'S TWICE AS MUCH AS, UH, WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IN THIS AREA.

AND I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT NOTE.

SO THIS IS, I THINK, A GREAT HOUSING DESIGN.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD, YOU KNOW, ON, ON ITS OWN STANDALONE.

IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

IT ALSO IS PART OF THE RAPID ECONOMIC DISPLACEMENT IN THE HOUSING MARKET AND THE PRECEDENT IT SETS HAS AN IMPACT ON PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY LIVE IN OUR MOST AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO THAT'S, UM, MY, MY NEUTRAL STANDPOINT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER FOUR.

COMMISSIONER LEWIS AGAINST, OH, COMMISSIONER MUSH.

TYLER, YOU HAD, UM, UH, NEUTRAL

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DICK AGAINST OH, NEUTRAL.

NEUTRAL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

TO SPEAK.

GO AHEAD.

YES, GO AHEAD.

I, I DO