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I AM COUNCIL MEMBERS, SABINO PIO.
I'M THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
I HAVE MY COLLEAGUE HERE ON THE DS AND TWO ON REMOTE.
UM, I DO SEE, UH, UH, SOME FAMILIAR FACES OUT IN THE CROWD.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UH, WHAT SCHOOL OR PROGRAM YOU'RE FROM, BUT, UH, WELCOME HERE.
YOU KNOW, WE DO THE, UH, FUN PART WITH, UH, MAKING DECISIONS ON BUILDING AS MUCH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WE CAN HERE IN AUSTIN.
UH, COLLEAGUES JUST, I, I WAS JUST INTRODUCING THEM FROM THE LBJ SCHOOL OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS.
IT'S A HOUSING POLICY CLASS FROM IS A PROFESSOR FULTON, SO, RIGHT.
I AM GLAD TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS, IN THIS POLICIES THAT, UH, THAT Y'ALL WORKING ON, CUZ, UH, AUSTIN IS IN DIRE AGE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT CAN COME AND, AND HELP US DIRECT, UH, UH, THE CITY ON, ON HOW, AND WHAT WOULD BE BEST TO BUILD ALONG, ESPECIALLY ON OUR FUTURE CORRIDOR THAT WE ARE GONNA BE BUILDING.
IT'S GONNA BE REAL CRUCIAL THAT WE HAVE AS MANY SUPPORT GROUPS ADVISING US ON THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE GONNA START, UH, OUR COUNCIL MEETING HERE.
[1. Approve the minutes of the September 6, 2022 Housing and Planning Committee meeting]
AM GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.WE HAVE NATASHA THAT MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
OH, PAGE, I SHOULD SAY CHITO VILLA, MY COLLEAGUE.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND IS, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE, OF THE DIAS IS VOTED POSITIVE.
WE WAS, UM, ONE OF OUR C AND KITCHEN OFF THE DIAS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH OUR BRIEFING TODAY.
[3. Briefing on Equitable Transit-Oriented Development Policy Plan]
UH, FIRST ONE BRIEFING IS, UM, EAL TRANSPORTATION ORIENTATION DEVELOPMENT POLICY.THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HAVING US PRESENT EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS WARNER COOK AND I'M A PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND I HAVE OTHER STAFF HERE TODAY AS WELL TO HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER THE PRESENTATION IS THROUGH.
SO TO SET THE STAGE, I FIRST WANTED A QUICK REMINDER OF WHAT THE EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT POLICY PLAN IS INTENDED TO DO FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE FRAMEWORK TO HELP US IMAGINE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE PROJECT CONNECT TRANSIT SYSTEM.
ONE THAT SUPPORTS RESIDENTS OF ALL INCOMES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE BORN THE BURDEN OF PAST AND CURRENT INEQUITIES IN TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE.
THE POLICY PLAN IS A PLAN FOR HOW TO PLAN, IF YOU WILL.
THE DOCUMENT DOES NOT BY ITSELF ADOPT OR AMEND REGULATIONS OR MAKE SPECIFIC INVESTMENTS AT SPECIFIC STATIONS, BUT IT WILL SET THE COURSE FOR HOW WE MIGHT MAKE THESE CHANGES IN THE YEARS TO COME.
SO, AS ANOTHER REMINDER COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR DIRECTING US TO DO THIS WORK IN YOUR JUNE, 2021 RESOLUTION, UH, WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH CAP METRO BASED ON THE RESOLUTION THAT YOUR BODY PASSED IN ORDER TO PRIORITIZE EQUITABLE OUTCOMES WITH TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, YOU ASKED US TO LOOK AT ROUGHLY 30 DIFFERENT GOALS AND STRATEGIES FOR OUR TRANSIT NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THINKING HOLISTICALLY ABOUT INCREASING ACCESS TO JOBS AND SERVICES, PREVENTING DISPLACEMENT, ENABLING WALKABLE BIKEABLE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ESPECIALLY STRATEGIES TO PRESERVE AND EXIST, UM, AFFORDABLE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
SO WHAT EXACTLY IS E T O D OR EQUITABLE TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT? WHERE DOES THE E COME FROM? WELL, WE KNOW THE TRADITIONAL TOD BRINGS LOTS OF BENEFITS TO OUR COMMUNITIES, ENCOURAGING, UM, THE TRANSIT SYSTEM, GIVING THE RIDERSHIP THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT TRANSIT SYSTEM.
HOWEVER, WE ALSO KNOW THAT TRADITIONAL TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT HAS DISPLACED PEOPLE FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, HERE LOCALLY AND ACROSS
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THE US.SO ONLY DOING A DO NO HARM APPROACH AND MITIGATING DISPLACEMENT STILL WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS TO THRIVE AND GROW.
SO THE EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT COMES FROM THE EQUITABLE OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE SEARCHING FOR WITH THIS PLAN.
UM, WE'RE NOT ONLY DOING NO HARM, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO IMPROVE THE ECONOMIC MOBILITY FOR PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERSERVED BY TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IN THE PAST.
THIS EFFORT IS TRULY A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THREE AGENCIES AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THEM.
CAP METRO HAS LED ON MUCH OF THE WORK ON THE ETOD STUDY OVER THE LAST YEAR WITH THE CITY SUPPORTING AND ITP CONSULTING.
WE'VE UL ULTIMATELY, THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP WILL DESIGN AND BUILD THE NEW TRANSIT SYSTEM WHILE THE CITY HAS LAND USE AUTHORITY AND THE ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT POLICY THROUGH CODE, UM, TO DIRECT INVESTMENTS AND NEW PROGRAMS. AND CAP METRO WILL BE THE OPERATOR OF THE NEW TRANSIT SYSTEM.
THE FOURTH CRUCIAL STAKEHOLDER IN ALL OF THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY WHO WE SERVE.
NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO KNOW FROM OUR COMMUNITY WHAT THEY NEED AND DESIRE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND TRANSIT, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO NEED THEM TO CHAMPION SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES THEMSELVES IN ORDER TO GET TO THE EQUITABLE OUTCOMES THAT WE DESERVE.
THE STAGE HAS BEEN SET WELL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS FOR THE MOBILITY SIDE OF THIS WORK WITH THE 20 16 18 AND 2020 MOBILITY BONDS, AS WELL AS THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN.
AND CULMINATING WITH THE PROP A VOTE ON PROJECT CONNECT, WHERE VOTERS APPROVE FUNDING FOR THE SYSTEM AND THE ANTIS DISPLACEMENT IN 2020.
AFTER THAT APPROVAL, THE CITY AND CAP METRO BOTH SAW THE NEED TO PLAN AROUND THE TRANSIT SYSTEM TO BENEFIT RESIDENTS OF ALL INCOMES.
WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING OVER THE LAST YEAR TO UNDERSTAND THE LOCAL CONDITIONS, SEARCH OUT NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES, AND DEVELOP POLICY TOOLS TO GET US THERE.
NOW WE'RE HERE AT THE STEP OF THE ETOD DRAFT POLICY PLAN, WHICH WILL GUIDE DECISION MAKING AROUND THESE STATIONS IN THE FUTURE.
AFTER COUNCIL WILL TAKE ACTION ON THE POLICY PLAN IN DECEMBER TO APPROVE IT BY RESOLUTION.
STAFF WILL MOVE FORWARD INTO IMPLEMENTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN, FOCUSED ON STATION AREA, PLANNING, REGULATORY CHANGES, AND COORDINATING WITH OUR PARTNERS.
AND JUST A NOTE, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE ENGAGEMENT TO KEEP DOING IN THESE YEARS.
GOING FORWARD, WE'LL HAVE LOTS, LOTS MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE BEING INVOLVED.
THE STUDY WAS FUNDED, UM, IN PART BY THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION THROUGH A GENEROUS GRANT TO CAP METRO.
UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY A HUNDRED STATIONS.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN BOTH A QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE WAY IN ORDER TO TAKE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE STUDY AND APPLY THEM ACROSS THE FULL SYSTEM OF PROJECT CONNECT, COMMUTER RAIL, LIGHT RAIL, AND BUS RAPID TRANSIT.
ON THE QUANTITATIVE SIDE, WE'VE GOT AN EXISTING CONDITIONS DASHBOARD ONLINE THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE AND PLACES ALONG OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM BY LOOKING AT POPULATION AND DEMOGRAPHICS, DISPLACEMENT RISK, JOBS AND CAREER OPPORTUNITIES, THE URBAN FABRIC, REAL ESTATE AND HOUSING COSTS, AS WELL AS MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
ON THE QUALITATIVE SIDE, WE'VE WORKED FOR THE LAST YEAR CONDUCTING MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN ORDER TO HEAR WHAT OUR COMMUNITY ENVISIONS FOR E T O D, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERSERVED IN THE PAST.
LARGE VIRTUAL MEETINGS THAT WE HELD LAST YEAR DID NOT REACH ALL OF THE INTENDED AUDIENCES THAT WE HAD HOPED.
SO AS WE MOVED ON, WE ADDED MORE STRATEGIES LIKE WORKING WITH THE CAC OR COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WORKING GROUP MEMBERS, UH, TABLING PAID FOCUS GROUPS, AS WELL AS OUR PAID COMMUNITY CONNECTORS PROGRAM.
UM, WE HAD 12 AMBASSADORS WHO'D CONDUCTED THEIR OWN OUTREACH AFTER A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE SELECTION PROCESS, AND THEY REACHED OVER 200 PEOPLE, 60% OF WHOM WERE ROUGHLY, UM, BIPO AND LOW INCOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER HERE, SO WE'RE GONNA JUMP INTO WHAT'S IN THE PLAN DOCUMENT ITSELF.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SIX GOALS THAT, UM, HAVE COME FROM OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UH, THERE'S A SNAPSHOT OF HOW TODS IN AUSTIN HAVE PERFORMED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
WE'VE GOT STATIONARY TYPOLOGIES AND PLANNING PRIORITIES, THE COMPREHENSIVE POLICY TOOLKIT, AND A WORK PLAN ACTION PLAN OF NEXT STEPS.
SO THE SIX GOALS FOR E T O D THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN CAME FROM THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES.
FIRST, THE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION FROM LAST YEAR, THE GOALS OUTLINED IN THAT.
SECOND, WE LOOKED AT THE RACIAL EQUITY DRIVERS IN THE NOTHING ABOUT US WITHOUT US ANTI-DISPLACEMENT TOOL AND REPORT.
AND THEN THIRD, THEY CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE PRIORITIES THAT OUR COMMUNITY WAS EXPRESSING.
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YOU'LL SEE THAT IT COVERS EVERYTHING FROM SAFE, ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORTATION TO CLOSING THE RACIAL HEALTH AND WEALTH GAP.AGAIN, PRESERVING AND INCREASING AFFORDABLE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING, EXPANDING JOB AND CAREER OPPORTUNITIES, SUPPORTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH, UM, SERVICES THAT MEET THEIR DAILY NEEDS, LIKE CHILDCARE, HEALTHCARE, AND EXPANDING OUR, AND PRESERVING OUR DIVERSE CULTURAL HERITAGE WITH OUR SMALL AND BIPO OWNED BUSINESSES.
THE NEXT PART OF THE PLAN IS THE TYPOLOGIES OF THE STATION AREAS.
SO THESE YOU CAN THINK OF AS CATEGORIES, CLASSIFICATIONS OF THE ROUGHLY A HUNDRED DIFFERENT STATIONS ACROSS THE PROJECT CONNECT SYSTEM.
THESE ARE GROUPED ACCORDING TO SHARED CHARACTERISTICS IN THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT.
SO THE FIRST COLUMN IN THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT, UH, MORE OR FEWER RELATIVE RESIDENTS TODAY.
UM, IS IT RELATIVELY HIGH VULNERABILITY AND EXPERIENCING DISPLACEMENT TODAY, OR IS IT RELATIVELY LOW OR HISTORICALLY EXCLUSIVE TODAY? AND HAS IT EXPERIENCED MORE RAPIDLY CHANGING JOBS IN POPULATION GROWTH, OR IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE REST OF THE SYSTEM.
SO THAT THOSE THREE FACTORS HELP US GET TO THE COLORFUL BOXES THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN.
AND, UM, THOSE WORDS IN THOSE BOXES, THOSE EIGHT TYPOLOGIES GIVE US THE STARTING PLACE OF WHERE WE, WHERE WE WOULD START OUR STRATEGIES FOR OUR MORE FOCUSED DETAILED PLANNING GOING FORWARD.
UM, JUST ANOTHER NOTE THAT THESE EIGHT TYPOLOGIES, WE DON'T SEE THESE AS STATIC AT ALL.
UH, THESE ARE NOT PRESCRIPTIVE OF A FUTURE THAT WE ENVISION.
THEY'RE DESCRIPTIVE OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY.
SO WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA CHANGE OVER TIME AND THEREFORE WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADAPT AND CHANGE THE TYPOLOGIES AS WELL.
THERE'S ALSO NOT ONE BEST OR IDEAL TYPOLOGY.
EVERY SINGLE STATION CAN DO MORE TO GIVE US THE EQUITABLE OUTCOMES ACROSS OUR CITY.
SO THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES ARE GONNA REMAIN THE SAME ACROSS THE SYSTEM, BUT HOW WE USE AND APPLY THOSE IN DIFFERENT TYPOLOGIES, THAT'S GONNA BE WHERE THE CONTEXT SENSITIVITY COMES IN.
AND CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? JUST, YEAH.
SO THE, IN OTHER WORDS, THE, LIKE, LET'S SAY, JUST STARTING ON THE TOP, THE, THE, THE DEEP KIND OF PURPLE FIRST ONE, THE, THAT APPLIES ACROSS THE, THE SIDE BASICALLY.
SO THAT PURPLE COLOR IS REFLECTIVE OF THE MORE RESIDENTS TODAY AND IT HISTORICALLY EXCRUCIARY.
AND THEN THOSE ARE REFLECTED IN THE MAP, THE DIFFERENT, UH, TYPOLOGIES THAT ARE IN THERE, CORRECT.
I TRIED TO LINE THEM UP ACROSS, GOT IT.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE TYPOLOGIES, WE ALSO LOOKED AT PLANNING PRIORITIES.
THIS WAS ANOTHER REQUEST FROM COUNCIL, KNOWING THAT WE CAN'T DO DETAILED STATIONARY PLANNING IN A HUNDRED DIFFERENT STATIONS AT ONCE.
WE NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE HIGHEST IMPACT WAS GONNA BE FIRST.
SO WE LOOKED AT AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE VERY TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE ZONING TODAY, AS WELL AS AREAS THAT HAD A LOT OF CAPITAL METRO OR CITY OWNED LAND, OR UNDERUTILIZED LAND.
CAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE THOUGHT WE COULD HAVE THE HIGHEST, UM, IMPACT THE MOST QUICKLY FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE ETOD PLANNING.
UM, WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE LOOKING AT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT LINES, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT BUS VERSUS RAIL KIND OF STATIONS AND DIFFERENT TYPOLOGIES.
AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA WORK TO PARTNER WITH ONGOING PROCESSES.
FOR INSTANCE, THE NORTHEAST AUSTIN DISTRICT PLANNING PROCESS HAS A LOT OF GREEN LINE AND METRO RAPID STATIONS THAT WILL BECOME PART OF AN E T O D, UM, LOOKING STATIONARY PLANNING PROCESS.
UM, THE LAST MAJOR COMPONENT THAT WE WORKED ON WITH CAP METRO HERE IS THE POLICY TOOLKIT.
THERE'S 46 DIFFERENT POLICY TOOLS IN OUR TOOLKIT.
YOU CAN THINK OF THIS AS THE, AS THE HOW, IF.
THE LAST PART THAT I WAS GOING THROUGH IS THE WHAT, WHEN, WHERE THIS IS THE, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET TO EQUITABLE TO D.
UM, THEY COVER TOPICS OF SMALL BUSINESS AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, MOBILITY, LAND USE, AND URBAN DESIGN, AND REAL ESTATE AND FINANCE STRATEGIES.
FOR EACH ONE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PAGES, JUST A BRIEF DESCRIPTION, UNDERSTANDING WHO THE PARTNERS ARE, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR WHEN WE NEED TO GET STARTED ON THIS TOOL, AND, UM, WHAT ARE SOME CHALLENGES OR CONSIDERATIONS WE'RE GONNA NEED TO BALANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED EQUITABLY.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE SOME SUCCESS METRICS TO HELP US KNOW THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING THE SIX GOALS.
UH, FINALLY WE HAVE A SHORT SECTION OF A WORK PLAN OR NEXT STEPS.
UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE STEPS THAT HOUSING AND PLANNING PLANS TO IMPLEMENT STARTING IN 2023 IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT ETOD.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE PARTNERS AT OTHER AGENCIES, WE HAVE NONPROFITS.
WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ALSO GONNA NEED TO TAKE UP PARTS OF THIS PLAN AND BE IMPLEMENTING
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THEM AS WELL.SO ON THE CITY SIDE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME FOCUS STATION AREA PLANNING.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT POTENTIAL REGULATORY CHANGES THAT WOULD GO THROUGH A BIG PUBLIC PROCESS IF, IF WE DID INITIATE THAT WORK AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN EQUITY SCORECARD TO TRY TO EVALUATE THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS OF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
LASTLY, WE HAVE THE DRAFT PLAN AND ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS ONLINE.
THERE'S A SURVEY ON SPEAKUP AUSTIN.ORG/ETOD POLICY PLAN.
WE'RE ALSO HOSTING AN ORGANIZATIONAL SUMMIT FOR NONPROFITS AND AGENCY STAFF TO TRY TO BUILD MOMENTUM AND FIND THOSE POINTS OF COLLABORATION NEXT MONDAY.
AND PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS REACH US@ETODAUSTINTEXAS.GOV.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? AND NATASHA? THANK YOU CHAIR.
UH, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS A POLICY TOOL ABOUT, UM, COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND ABOUT LIMITED EQUITY COOPERATIVES ON PAGE 1 0 8 AND 1 0 9, UH, THE, OF THE PRINTOUT.
UM, UH, OR IT TALKS ABOUT ONE ON PAGES 1 0 8 AND 1 0 9 OF THE PRINTOUT.
ONE OF OUR POLICY TOOLS IN THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY SECTION IS ON VARIOUS TYPES OF SHARED EQUITY MODELS, INCLUDING COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AS ONE OF THOSE.
SO THEN THERE'S A SECTION ABOUT WHETHER THIS POLICY TOOL EXISTS IN AUSTIN.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NO MENTION OF ANY OF THE, UM, THE DOZENS OF CO-OP PROPERTIES OR ANY OF THE COOPERATIVE HOUSING RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN.
SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO PULL UP THE PAGE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT.
SO YES, WE TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST PROGRAM, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES THERE OF THE LIMITED EQUITY COOPERATIVES, THE CO-OPS.
UM, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD IN THERE, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNITY KNOWS ABOUT THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THOSE SUCCESS METRICS THAT FOCUS A HUNDRED PERCENT ON COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, UM, BUT DON'T MENTION ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF CO-OPS AS A CONTRIBUTION OR, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THE SUCCESS.
UM, SO YEAH, IF STAFF WOULD CONSIDER INCORPORATING, UM, COOPERATIVES INTO THOSE SUCCESS METRICS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
MORE, UH, QUESTIONS, COLLEEN, COUNCIL MEMBER BELLA.
ARE THERE ANY GOALS FOR, UM, NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS AROUND, UH, EACH STATION OR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING KIND OF SOLID LIKE THAT? UH, UH, FOR THE ETOD, UH, NO COUNCIL MEMBER, WE DO HAVE OUR STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT GOALS AROUND DISTRICTS AS WELL AS VARIOUS METRICS ON HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS WE'D LIKE TO SEE AROUND IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS AND CENTERS MM-HMM.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE HOUSING MIX IS, WHAT THE AFFORDABILITY MIX IS, SO THAT WHEN WE GO AND LOOK AT FOCUS PLANNING, WE CAN SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET SOME OF THOSE CITYWIDE GOALS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND, UH, I, I DO APPRECIATE, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON'S COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO THE, THE CO-OPS AS WELL.
I KNOW THAT, THAT, UM, I MEAN, I LIVED IN CO-OPS AND COLLEGE AND I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WE ASSOCIATE IT WITH STUDENT HOUSING, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS PRICES START TO RISE, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE KIND OF THOUGHT OF AS, I MEAN, I THINK EVEN OF LIKE BOARDING HOUSES AND STUFF, LIKE, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF KIND OF OLD TOOLS THAT MAY BE COMING BACK IN VOGUE, UH, AND, AND MAYBE, UH, NECESSARY TO, UH, TO EXPLORE.
AND THEN FINALLY WITH, AND I MAY BE CONFUSING A, A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT I KNOW IT'S PART OF THE, THE, UM, THE ANTIS DISPLACEMENT FUNDING THAT WE RECENTLY GAVE TO A HANDFUL OF ORGANIZATIONS AROUND TOWN.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT Y'ALL ARE INVOLVED OR COORDINATING WITH THOSE, UH, NONPROFITS THAT RECEIVED THE GRANT FUNDING.
I WAS JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTED ANSWER, BUT OF COURSE THE ANSWER IS YES.
YEAH, WE, UH, DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION TEAM THAT'S BEEN LEADING THAT EFFORT.
IT'S BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE INCLUSIVE PLANNING TEAM AND HOUSING AND PLANNING ON THIS ONE.
AND SO WE SAW, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT THAT DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION IS A LITTLE OUT IN FRONT OF THIS PLANNING WORK.
SO WE TRIED TO INCORPORATE ALL THE BEST PRACTICES THAT THEY'RE
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ALREADY LEARNING THROUGH, LIKE THE COMMUNITY INITIATED SOLUTIONS, AND THEN SOME OF THE NEW THINGS THAT THEY WERE HEARING AS WELL WHEN THEY WENT OUT TO DO KIND OF SOME OF THE BUDGET PRIORITIES AND STUFF WITH THE CAC, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALIGNED THERE.AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S APPLICABLE, THERE'S THE, UH, WE JUST PASSED THE, THE RIGHT TO ORGANIZE, UH, WITH THE GOAL OF, UH, HOPEFULLY FORMING, UH, TENANT UNIONS IN ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE LOW INCOME APARTMENTS, A LOT OF THEM IN MY DISTRICT.
UH, AND AGAIN, I I WOULD LOVE TO SEE KIND OF THAT FORMAL STRUCTURES IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, WHERE TENANT ASSOCIATIONS ARE ABLE TO KIND OF GIVE US FEEDBACK AND HOPEFULLY EVEN BE AN INTERMEDIARY POTENTIALLY BETWEEN LIKE, YOU KNOW, CODE AND, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO ANYWAY, I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE INFORMATION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THE RESULTS.
AND, UM, ALSO, UM, IF YOU CAN GIVE US, UH, LIKE A TIME SCHEDULE OF WHEN YOU'RE GONNA BRING THIS BACK TO US, UH, YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA GET, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE RECEIVING, SO, BUT I MIGHT NOT BE HERE, BUT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT, THAT CHIME MM-HMM.
SO WE WERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION THIS WEEK, BUT WE GOT POSTPONED TO NEXT WEEK ON THE 15TH.
AND WE'LL BE AT ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 6TH OF DECEMBER.
AND THEN CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 8TH, YOUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR.
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, COLLEEN.
IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS THEN? WE, I WANT TO THANK YOU NOW.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD A SPEAKER SIGN UP LAST MINUTE, UM, BEFORE THAT ITEM WAS CLOSED.
SO IF BEFORE WE MOVE ON, IF WE COULD CALL, UM, SCOTT JOHNSON.
GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I WAS INSPIRED, UH, ON THIS TOPIC THAT I'M GONNA SPEAK ABOUT WHEN I WAS AT THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE MEETING EARLIER TODAY.
AND I CERTAINLY SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO TRY TO FRAME THINGS WHERE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THE EXTERNALITIES WHEN WE'RE TAKING SOME ACTION, WHEN WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING OR DECONSTRUCTING SOMETHING.
SO SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE KNOWN, AND SOME OF YOU ARE CONNECTED TO AIR QUALITY, I KNOW, IS THAT THIS SUMMER WAS USUALLY HIGH OZONE LEVELS.
IF WE WERE VALUED RIGHT NOW BY THE EPA, WHICH WERE NOT GONNA BE, WE WOULD BE RIGHT AT THE VIOLATION POINT FOR GROUND LEVEL OZONE.
GROUND LEVEL OZONE ARE CAR EMISSIONS THAT ARE VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS AND NITROGEN OXIDES CALLED NOX WHEN THEY COME TOGETHER AND FORM IN A CHEMICAL REACTION, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL GROUND LEVEL OZONE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS USED FOR BUILDING HOMES, BUILDING ROADS, ET CETERA.
THAT IS A VERY LARGE SOURCE OF IT.
THEY'RE BY NOW, I'M SURE, OVER 300,000 REGISTERED VEHICLES IN, IN TRAVIS COUNTY.
THERE MAY BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT THAT'S GOING ON, INCLUDING CRANES AND FRONT LOADERS AND ALL, THERE'S THOUSANDS, BUT, BUT NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.
BUT THAT AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT IS A APPROXIMATELY 10% OF THE INVENTORY FOR NITROGEN OXIDE NOX, WHICH IS THE MORE IMPORTANT OZONE PRECURSOR.
THAT'S A LUNG IRRITANT AND A HEALTH HAZARD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THE AWARENESS THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON OUR AIR QUALITY, WHICH IN INFLUENCE AND IMPACTS CLIMATE AS WELL.
AND, AND THINK ABOUT DECISIONS, HOW WE CAN CONTRACT FOR CLEANER AIR, OR IF WE'RE PART OF A GROUP, AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL GROUP, ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING TO REDUCE EMISSIONS FROM THE CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT THIS COMMITTEE OR THIS GROUP, OR THIS GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY IS DOING? IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR THE HEALTH OF THE CITIZENS, FOR THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF THE REGION, BECAUSE THERE CAN BE PENALTIES FOR THAT.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE PENALTIES YET.
WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT ATTAINMENT FOR A VERY SHORT TIME IN THE LATE SEVENTIES, BUT THE OZONE STANDARD GOT CHANGED.
AND SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT.
SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT WORK ON THIS CLEAN AIR COALITION, WHICH IS A COMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS WORKS ON THIS.
THE CLEAN AIR FORCE, WHICH IS AN AIR QUALITY GROUP THAT'S A NONPROFIT, WORKS ON AIR QUALITY.
BUT THIS ISSUE DOESN'T COME UP A LOT.
SO I'D LIKE TO RAISE YOUR AWARENESS THAT WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING BEING BUILT, YOU MIGHT BE HAPPY IT'S BEING BUILT, BUT IT HAS COST, IT HAS RAMIFICATIONS, EXTERNALITIES THAT IMPACT OUR HEALTH NEGATIVELY.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
CO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
AND BEST WISHES IN THE FUTURE,
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UH, COLLEAGUES.UM, WHAT, UH, THE SECOND ITEM, I DIDN'T GO THROUGH IT BECAUSE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE SET IN THE, UH, THE, UH, SCHEDULE FOR, UH, UH, NEXT YEAR'S, UH, PROPOSED MEETINGS.
AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE Y'ALL, UH, TIME TO LOOK IT OVER.
AND, UH, AS SOON AS WE FINISH THE BRIEFING, WE'LL TAKE, UH, COMMENTS AND VOTE ON APPROVAL FOR NEXT YEAR'S, UH, UH, MEETINGS.
[4. Briefing on compatibility and parking on corridors.]
ALONG, WE WANT TO DO THE FOURTH BRIEFING.IT'S ON COMPATIBILITY AND PARKING ON
UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, I'M GREG DUTTON WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON YOUR AGENDA IS A CODE AMENDMENT COMPATIBILITY ON CORRIDORS.
UM, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION WITH SOME BACKGROUND, THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION, UM, PROPOSED DRAFT CHANGES, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN THE TIMELINE.
UH, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THIS IS NOT NEW PROBABLY, BUT, UM, IN MARCH, 2020, THE LDC REVISION WAS SUSPENDED AND, UH, MORE, AND THEN MORE RECENTLY IN JUNE, Y'ALL PASSED VMU TWO.
SO VMU TWO IS THE UPDATE TO OUR EXISTING VMU REGULATIONS THAT ALLOW 30 FEET IN HEIGHT, UH, ABOVE WHAT YOU COULD PREVIOUSLY DO IN RETURN FOR DEEPER AFFORDABILITY, UH, AND ALL.
YOU ALSO GET A PARKING REDUCTION.
AND ON, UH, ON LIGHT RAIL LINES, YOU GET A REDUCTION IN COMPATIBILITY, UH, TO A HUNDRED FEET, MEANING THAT AT 100 FEET COMPATIBILITY ENDS.
UM, AND SO WHEN YOU PASS THAT AT YOUR JUNE 9TH MEETING, UH, YOU THEN PASS THE RESOLUTION THAT, UM, IS BRINGING FORWARD THE ITEM THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
I'M NOT GONNA READ THROUGH THIS VERBATIM.
UM, YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
BUT BASICALLY THAT RESOLUTION ON THE 9TH OF JUNE TO INITIATE THIS CODE AMENDMENT SAID THAT WE'RE HAVING AN AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN AUSTIN.
UM, WE HAVE THE NEW, UH, PROJECT CONNECT, UH, PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS.
UM, AND LET'S PUT HOUSING AND, AND TRANSIT TOGETHER.
WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UM, COMPATIBILITY IN AUSTIN FOR MANY DECADES.
WE HAVE, UH, A CURRENT STANDARD IN OUR CODE THAT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE COMPARED TO OUR PEER CITIES.
AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE A S P, WHICH WAS A RE RECENTLY ADOPTED PLAN THAT HAS A GOAL OF A 50 50 MODE SHARE SPLIT.
UH, ALSO, UH, CHANGES TO COMPATIBILITY AND PARKING REGULATIONS CAN HELP ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING WITH, UH, MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING STUDIES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE DONE OVER THE YEARS HAVE SHOWN THAT, UM, CHANGES TO COMPATIBILITY AND PARKING COULD HELP GREATLY.
AND THEN THAT JUST, THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO, AGAIN, MAKING HOUSING AND TRANSIT COME TOGETHER AND WORK WITH EACH OTHER.
SO THAT WAS THE RESOLUTION THAT INITIATED THE AMENDMENT.
UM, UH, IT WENT ON TO KIND OF, IT WAS PRETTY SPECIFIC, SO IT DID SAY, PART OF THAT WAS TO END COMPATIBILITY AT 300 FEET.
SO FOR RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE PROPERTIES ON CERTAIN CORRIDORS, THE COMPATIBILITY WOULD END AT 300 FEET.
SO TODAY'S CODE, IT ENDS AT 540 FEET.
THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE TO 300 FEET.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, SORT OF ACROSS THE BOARD THERE WOULD BE A FIVE FOOT BUMP IN HEIGHT.
SO TODAY, WHERE YOU HAVE A 60 FOOT BUILDING ALLOWED AT 300 FEET, THAT BUILDING WOULD BE ALLOWED TO GO UP TO 65 FEET.
UM, BUT THAT WAS REALLY ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND AGAIN, LIKE VMU TWO A, A REDUCTION IN PARKING TO 25% OF WHAT'S OTHERWISE REQUIRED FOR LIGHT RAIL, UH, AND LARGE CORRIDORS.
AND 50% OF WHAT'S OTHERWISE REQUIRED ARE MEDIUM CORRIDORS.
IT WENT A STEP FURTHER, AND IT SAID THAT THAT'S FOR ALL PROPERTIES ON CORRIDORS THAT ARE MISUSE OR RESIDENTIAL.
BUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONUS PROGRAM, YOU GET A FURTHER REDUCTION IN COMPATIBILITY AND IT SPECIFIED IT BY CORRIDOR, SO THAT ON LIGHT RAIL CORRIDORS, THEY WOULD
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GET THE BIGGEST BREAK IN COMPATIBILITY.IF THEY PARTICIPATED IN THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM, IT WOULD, COMPATIBILITY WILL END AT A HUNDRED FEET FROM A TRIGGERING PROPERTY.
UH, FOR LARGE CORRIDORS, IT WILL END AT 200 FEET, BUT THERE'S A BUMP UP IN HEIGHT FROM 65 TO 90 FEET AT ONE TO 200 FEET IN DISTANCE.
AND THEN FOR MEDIUM CORRIDORS, IT WOULD END AT 250 FEET.
BUT THERE'S MB BUMP AND HEIGHT FROM 65 TO 90 FEET AT A DISTANCE OF 150 TO 200 FEET, 250 FEET FROM A TRIGGERING PROPERTY.
I KNOW IT'S, UM, YOU CAN'T SAY A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT THE CORRIDOR IS SPECIFIED.
UH, AGAIN, LIGHT RAIL LARGE AND MEDIUM CORRIDORS ARE SORT OF THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
LIGHT RAIL, UH, IS SHOWN THERE IN THE VERY MIDDLE.
THE GREEN, THE GREEN LINE IS THE, THE GREEN CORRIDOR IS THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE LINE.
UH, AND THEN LARGE CORRIDORS IN BLUE, MEDIUM CORRIDOR IS IN RED.
THIS IS A VISUAL JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW THE REDUCTION COMPARES TO COMPATIBILITY TODAY.
SO THAT, THAT BLUE TENT, IF YOU WILL, IS TODAY'S COMPATIBILITY.
IT GOES TO 540 FEET FROM A TRIGGERING PROPERTY.
THE STANDARD REDUCTION, THAT IS, IF, IF YOU'RE NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE AFFORDABLE BONUS, THE STANDARD REDUCTION WOULD END THAT COMPATIBILITY AT 300 FEET.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT PINK LINE IS THAT FIVE FOOT BUMP IN HEIGHT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE GETS BASICALLY IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE PROJECT, THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF LIKE THE TIER ONE REDUCTION IN COMPATIBILITY.
UH, BUT IF YOU DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AGAIN, YOU GET A FURTHER REDUCTION.
AND WHAT YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO IS RENTAL, UH, 10% AT 60 FOR 40 YEARS OWNERSHIP, 10% AT 80 FOR 99.
THAT'S OUR STANDARD SORT OF, UM, REQUIREMENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
V AND LU IS ALLOWED, THAT WAS SPECIFIED IN THE RESOLUTION.
AND, AND THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS YOU THAT CHANGE.
SO IF YOU'RE ON A LIGHT RAIL CORRIDOR, THAT, THAT BLUE BOX THERE AT THE TOP IS SORT OF THAT, THAT'S THE NEW BUILDABLE AREA THAT YOU GET BECAUSE COMPATIBILITY WOULD END AT 100 FEET.
SO YOU COULD BUILD INTO THAT BLUE AREA, SO YOU, IT ENDS AT 100 FEET AND THEN YOU GET THAT, UH, IF IT'S EFFECTIVELY NEW BUILDABLE SPACE FOR A LARGE CORRIDOR, IT, UH, IT ENDS COMPLETELY AT 200, UH, FEET.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE FROM ONE TO 200 FEET, THERE'S THAT, THAT INCREASE IN THE HEIGHT.
SO THAT'S SHOWING THE PROPOSED INCREASE FROM 65 TO 90 FEET THAT YOU'D GET.
AND THEN ON MEDIUM CORRIDORS, IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMILAR, BUT IT'S JUST, UH, IT ENDS AT 250 FEET INSTEAD.
BUT FROM 150 TO 250 FEET FROM A TRIGGERING PROPERTY, YOU DO GET A BUMP IN HEIGHT FROM 65 TO 90 FEET.
SO AGAIN, THAT BLUE AREA IS JUST THE NEW BUILDABLE SPACE.
OKAY, SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, WE ARE BRINGING BACK TO COUNCIL, UH, WHAT WAS REQUESTED IN RESOLUTION, BUT WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING IT.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE ITEM BE POSTPONED, UM, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
IT DOES ADD A LOT OF ADDITIONAL COMPLEXITY TO THE CODE.
UM, COMPATIBILITY IS ALREADY SOMETHING THAT'S VERY COMPLICATED, UH, AND IT'S NOT EASY TO UNDERSTAND.
AND THIS WOULD, UH, CREATE NEW DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR DIFFERENT CORRIDORS.
UM, COMPARED TO OUR CURRENT COMPATIBILITY, IT'S A, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING IN A PREDICTABLE FOR STAFF.
SO, YOU KNOW, PREDICTABILITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CODE FOR EVERYONE THAT USES IT, THE PUBLIC DEVELOPERS AND STAFF.
SO WE THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD ADD TO THAT UNPREDICTABILITY.
WE DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S GONNA PARTICIPATE IN THE BONUS.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEVER KNOW UNTIL THINGS ARE SORT OF, UH, ON THE BOOKS FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
BUT IN THIS CASE, UM, COMPARED TO OTHER BONUS PROGRAMS, INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT YOU GET HEIGHT OR DENSITY, THE BONUS IS REALLY JUST THE PULLBACK OF A COMPATIBILITY.
WE REALLY DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA WORK.
AND IN THE FIVE FOOT HEIGHT INCREASE, UH, AND THE ENDING COMPATIBILITY AT 300 FEET, THAT'S A POSITIVE THING.
I THINK STAFF IS VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
BUT THAT THOSE THINGS BY THEMSELVES, WE DON'T THINK ARE GONNA DO A WHOLE LOT.
FIVE FEET IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ENOUGH TO GET AN EXTRA STORY.
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MIGHT BE ENOUGH ON SOME PROJECTS TO, TO, TO RESULT IN AN EXTRA STORY, BUT BY ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH.AND THEN ENDING COMPATIBILITY AT 300 FEET, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A POSITIVE STEP, BUT CURRENT COMPATIBILITY DOES THE MOST SUPPRESSION BETWEEN ZERO AND 300 FEET.
SO ENDING IT AT 300 FEET, UH, JUST DOESN'T, UH, WE DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA DO THAT MUCH.
AND THEN WE THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE BETTER CONSIDERED WITH, UH, OTHER INITIATED CODE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, DONE RECENTLY, INITIATED RECENTLY, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF CONSIDER THEM ALL TOGETHER.
IT, THIS IS A PRETTY, UM, MEATY TOPIC AND, AND IT JUST PROBABLY DESERVES MORE TIME TO BE ANALYZED AND CONSIDERED WITH THOSE OTHER THINGS.
WE HAVE HAD ANALYSIS IN THE PAST, SO, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN TO OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND HAD ANALYSIS ABOUT THE IMPACT, UM, MORE SPECIFIC IMPACT ON PROPERTIES.
WE ARE RERUNNING THAT ANALYSIS CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE FOUND A BETTER WAY TO DO IT.
AND, UH, SO I DON'T HAVE NUMBERS TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY, BUT WE ARE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO GET AS MUCH OF THAT DONE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT WEEK, UH, TUESDAY.
UM, SO NO, NO NUMBERS TODAY ON THE IMPACT ON PROPERTIES, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO HAVE THAT DONE ON TUESDAY.
HAVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN, UH, BY TUESDAY.
SO TIMELINE WISE, WE'VE BEEN TO THE CODES AND OR JOINT COMMITTEE.
UH, THEY DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION EITHER WAY ON THIS PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, WE WERE THERE ON TUESDAY AND THEY, THEY HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, THEY HEARD A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT THEY, THEY DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS.
SO THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK ON TUESDAY.
UM, AND POSSIBLY MAKE, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
UH, WE ARE OBVIOUSLY HERE TODAY AND WE ARE SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 1ST OF DECEMBER, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
WHAT, RIGHT NOW, COUNCIL MEMBER AL, DID OTHER PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS? MM-HMM.
I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE, SO THANK YOU.
UM, I WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY, UM, IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IN OUR PROPOSAL WAS MAKE IT SO THAT YOU WEREN'T TRIGGERING COMPATIBILITY ACROSS THE CORRIDOR.
UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM WHERE YOU HAVE THAT IS, THAT JUST WASN'T CLEAR WHETHER WHAT YOU HAD IN THERE WAS ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING THAT? YEAH, IT'S, UH, WE CERTAINLY KNOW THAT THAT'S IN THE, IN THE RESOLUTION AND THE ANALYSIS BEING DONE IS TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
BUT SO IS THAT JUST BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY B ONE ON PAGE FOUR, WHERE, WHERE IT SAYS THOSE APPLY, WHERE THE TRIGGERING PROPERTY ADJOINS THE CORRIDOR SITE? SORRY, GIMME ONE SECOND.
UH, CAN YOU REPEAT THE SECTION YOU'RE LOOKING AT? COUNCIL MEMBER? I'M LOOKING AT PAGE FOUR UNDER COMPATIBILITY AND SETBACKS.
AS I UNDERSTAND B IS SAYING THAT THOSE HIGH LIMITATIONS AND SETBACKS APPLY TO A CORRIDOR SITE WHEN A TRIGGERING PROPERTY ADJOINS THE CORRIDOR SITE.
UM, BUT THEN IT SAYS, AND THEN THESE ARE ALL OS BUT THEN IT SAYS A STRUCTURE'S LOCATED WITHIN 300.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF THAT.
UM, I'LL BE, SO THIS SECTION, UM, I WANNA BE CLEAR, WE WE'RE ACTUALLY, THIS SECTION HAS SOME GRAMMATICAL ISSUES.
WE'RE GONNA REVISE THIS SECTION.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BEING TAKEN UP IN THIS SECTION.
UM, OKAY, WELL IF YOU CAN GET BACK, QUESTION TO ME AS TO WHERE YOU ARE, YOU ARE CODIFYING COUNSEL'S INTENT FOR COMPATIBILITY TO NOT JUST CROSS THE CORRIDOR.
SO, UH, BASICALLY, UH, YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UM, POSTPONE TO, AND WHAT EXACTLY Y'ALL GONNA BE DOING WHAT, THROUGH DURING THE
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POSTPONEMENT TIME? CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN PLEASE? WHAT, WHAT ARE Y'ALL GONNA BE DOING WHILE IT'S BEING POSTPONED? ARE Y'ALL GOING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR ARE Y'ALL WAITING FOR, FOR SOME ACTION FROM, FROM, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION.UH, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY WAITING ON ACTION FROM PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OBVIOUSLY.
UM, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'LL DO, BUT THEY'LL, I'M ASSUMING THEY'LL TAKE ACTION OF SOME KIND.
IF PLANNING COMMISSION DID POSTPONE THIS ITEM INTO THE FUTURE, SAY, THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT IT, UH, MORE IN THE CONTEXT OF OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
PARTICULARLY THERE IS A SUITE OF WATERSHED AMENDMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT BE AWARE OF, UM, SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THEM TOGETHER.
I THINK ALSO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT, UM, YEAH, HOW TO, HOW TO BALANCE IT WITH THE WATERSHED AMENDMENTS OR ANY OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING WHERE YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS.
UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT WERE POSTPONED, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT JUST HOW IT COULD BE CHANGED TO MAYBE HAVE A, HAVE A LARGER IMPACT, UH, NOT JUST ON CORRIDORS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION FROM COMMISSIONER COUNSEL, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE HELPFUL.
BUT, UM, YEAH, MORE TIME FOR ANALYSIS.
CUZ I DON'T, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF WHERE WE, YOU MEMBERS ARE GONNA BE COMING ON BOARD AND I, I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE THIS GET LOST AND I, I, I REALLY WOULD RIGHT.
LIKE TO SEE, UH, AND HEAR ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE SO THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DECISION ON THAT, ON, ON BEING THE BEST ROUTE THAT WE SHOULD FOLLOW.
YEAH, IT, IT, IT WOULDN'T, UM, CERTAINLY WOULDN'T GET LOST.
I MEAN, THESE AMENDMENTS SORT OF LIVE FOREVER, AS LONG AS THEY'VE BEEN INITIATED.
WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN PROCESS AND BEING WORKED ON.
UM, BUT, BUT THAT IS WHY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HEAR IT ON THE FIRST, ANY ACTION THAT YOU TAKE, OBVIOUSLY WILL BE USEFUL TO STAFF.
ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION, COLLEEN THERE, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER? UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT IT'S MY EXPECTATION THAT PLANNING COMMISSION IS GONNA BE MOVING THIS FORWARD AND THAT, UM, THIS WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
UM, IT IMPACTS A LARGE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, IN WAYS THAT WE HAVE ALL AGREED ON.
UM, AND I DON'T INTEND TO POSTPONE THIS TO NEXT YEAR.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE UNANIMOUSLY AGREE ON AND GET THAT MOVING FORWARD.
ANY NEXT STEPS WOULD TAKE A LONG TIME TO HAPPEN IN MY VIEW.
UM, BUT WE WE'RE WAITING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS AND IF THERE ARE TWEAKS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO IMPROVE IT, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
UH, MR. DUTTON, COULD YOU LET FOLKS KNOW WHERE TO FIND THESE DOCUMENTS ONLINE AND HOW TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT? IS IT A SPEAK UP AUSTIN PAGE? THE COUNCIL MEMBER? THERE IS A SPEAK UP AUSTIN PAGE.
UM, I CAN, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, READ THAT ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD IF NEEDED.
UM, AND I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE METRO.
UM, WHERE DID THOSE STAND? I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF MEDIUM OR LARGE CORRIDORS.
WHERE DID THE METRO, THE METRO RAPID LINES END UP IN THIS? THE METRO RAPID LINES ARE CONSIDERED, THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS A LARGE CORRIDOR.
I THINK THERE MAY BE A DISCREPANCY WITH SOUTH LAMAR, SO I MAY JUST DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT AND MAKE SURE IT'S, UH, CLASSIFIED CORRECTLY.
CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ALSO, UM, SOME METRO RAPID LINES THAT ARE NOT DEPLOYED YET, BUT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DEPLOYED.
AND I'D WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLASSIFY THOSE CORRECTLY RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU FOR THE, THE PRESENTATION.
I'M LOOKING AT YOUR, UH, THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT REVIEW SHEET THAT Y'ALL DISTRIBUTED SPECIFICALLY ON PAGE FIVE WHERE Y'ALL LIST THE TOTAL PROPERTIES IMPACTED BY COMPATIBILITY UNDER
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PROPOSED STANDARDS.THERE'S A, UH, A BAR GRAPH, UM, THAT WOULD BE TOTAL PROPERTIES IMPACTED BY COMPATIBILITY CITYWIDE THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO THAT BAR GRAPH, YES, THAT'S CITYWIDE AND IT IS BREAKING DOWN THE, THE NUMBER, UH, THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS AMENDMENT.
AND THEN THOSE THAT ARE IMPACTED CITYWIDE, THAT WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY THE AMENDMENT AT ALL.
AND, UM, AND I'M SORRY, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THIS ON THE, ON THE, ON THE BACKUP, UH, BUT THE, UM, THIS ALSO DOES NOT TAKE ACCOUNT, SO THE RAW NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IMPACTED WOULD BE ROUGHLY 19,000.
AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE LITTLE GREEN BAR AT THE VERY TOP, IT SAYS OF, OF THE ROUGHLY 19,000 PROPERTIES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY COMPATIBILITY ABOUT, IT SAYS 580 WOULD BE, UH, PROPERTIES ON QUARTERS WHERE COMPATIBILITY IS REMOVED.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, 580 PROPERTIES WOULD UNDER THE NEW STANDARDS, BE COMPLETELY, UH, FREE OF COMPATIBILITY RESTRICTIONS.
IS THAT, AM I READING THAT PROPERTY? YOU ARE.
I, BUT I DO, I DO WANT TO JUST CAVEAT THIS AND SAY, WHILE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IS, IS, UM, ACCURATE, WE DO HAVE TO, WE ARE RE CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS BASICALLY.
SO THAT NUMBER WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT AGAIN.
AND IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL CAN DO THIS CUZ IT'S SUBJECTIVE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT CLEARLY SOME PROPERTIES ARE NOT GOING TO REDEVELOP, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS, THEY MAYBE HAVE SOMETHING ALREADY BUILT ON THERE.
THERE'S TENANTS WITH LONG TERM LEASES, YOU KNOW, UH, IN OTHER WORDS IS IS, ARE ANY OTHER FACTORS IN THE POSSIBILITY OF A PROPERTY BEING REDEVELOPED, UH, INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, IN THAT NUMBER OR, OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY REDUCED BY THAT NUMBER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OR THAT'S JUST A RAW KIND OF BIRD'S EYE VIEW? YEAH, IT, IT'S VERY MUCH THE LATTER THAT ANY ANALYSIS WE DO WILL BE LOOKING AT PROPERTIES SOLELY ON THE BASIS OF, UM, THE SPATIAL IMPACT THAT IS THE DEGREE TO WHICH COMPATIBILITY, UH, PENETRATES INTO THE PROPERTY.
SO THOSE OTHER FACTORS ABOUT TURNOVER AND PROPERTY VALUE AND THAT, THAT WHAT THOSE AREN'T REALLY GONNA BE CONSIDERED.
SO AT MOST, 580 PROPERTIES ARE REMOVED.
AGAIN, OF THOSE 580, WHICH ARE LIKELY TO ACTUALLY BE REDEVELOPED IN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME, UNCLEAR, UH, OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE'S THE NUMBER 2,250 PROPERTIES ON QUARTERS WHERE COMPATIBILITY IS RELAXED AGAIN, RELAXED MEANING THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE COMPATIBILITY INSTEAD OF COVERING 50% OF THE, THE, THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IS DOWN TO LIKE 40%.
IN OTHER WORDS, RELAXED WOULD MEAN ANY RELAXATION.
AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE A TANGIBLE IMPACT IN THE REAL WORLD.
THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND THEN 1,326 PROPERTIES, AGAIN, THESE ARE PROPERTIES ON THE CORRIDORS WHERE COMPATIBILITY WOULD STILL APPLY TO ALL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I MEAN, I GUESS I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS AND SO EVEN FOR THE CORRIDORS WERE REALLY, YOU KNOW, 580 WOULD HAVE IT REMOVED, 1300 WOULD BE UNAFFECTED, AND 2,250 WOULD BE SOMEWHAT AFFECTED.
TO WHAT EXTENT, WE DON'T KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS AND THAT I'M READING IT CORRECTLY.
YOUR GENERAL UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT.
AND AGAIN, I'M JUST GONNA KEEP SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS AGAIN, SO WE'LL HAVE MORE CLARITY.
UH, THE LAST TIME, I GUESS Y'ALL ARE GONNA DO ANOTHER VERSION OF THAT, UH, OF THAT KIND OF TOOL THAT, THAT YOU PUT OUT.
UH, AND SORRY, WHICH TOOL ARE YOU'RE REFERRING? I THINK IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE GIS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE, WHERE YOU COULD KIND OF LOOK AT THE, AT THE PROPERTIES ON, UH, FROM A, YOU KNOW, UH, AGAIN, A BIRD'S EYE VIEW AND, AND SEE KIND OF WHERE THE COMPETITOR IS THAT THE, UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE A SIMILAR TOOL OR AM I REMEMBERING THAT WRONG? I THINK YOU MIGHT, UH, BE THINKING WE MIGHT HAVE DONE THAT FOR VMU TWO.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR THIS, UH, OR NOT.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT, SO CURRENTLY, AND HONESTLY I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS, BUT THERE'S CURRENTLY TWO COMPATIBILITY CATEGORIES, UH, FOR SMALL PROPERTIES AND FOR LARGE PROPERTIES.
IS THAT CORRECT? IN OUR CURRENT CODE, THERE'S, YES.
AND WHAT'S THE DISTINCTION? LIKE WHAT'S A SMALL PROPERTY AND WHAT'S A LARGE PROPERTY? UH, GOSH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S JUST A SIZE LOT SIZE DIFFERENCE AND A MAYBE A FRONTAGE DIFFERENCE.
AND IT, AND IT, UH, PRIMARILY AFFECTS THE SETBACKS.
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THEN WITH REGARD TO THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PLANNING, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE THAT, UH, UH, MARIBO, TEAL MENTIONED WITH REGARD TO NOT COMPATIBILITY, NOT CROSSING THE CORRIDORS, THAT ONLY APPLIES TO THE CORRIDORS THAT IS NOT GOING TO APPLY CITYWIDE.RIGHT? WELL, CERTAINLY OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE RESOLUTION IS THAT THIS IS ALL THE CONTEXT IS THE CORRIDORS.
SO, SO NONE OF IT WOULD APPLY ELSEWHERE.
UH, AND WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE AMENDMENT, IF WE WANTED TO MAKE THE, UH, AND THIS MAY BE HONESTLY MORE OF A LAW QUESTION, BUT IF WE WANTED TO MAKE, UH, SOMETHING APPLICABLE CITYWIDE, COULD WE DO THAT, UH, WITH THE ITEM THAT'S IN FRONT OF US? I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ABILITY TO, TO DO THAT GIVEN THE POSTING LANGUAGE OR THE, THE SCOPE OF THE RESOLUTION MM-HMM.
AND THEN ONE OF THE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE MENTIONED, AND I BELIEVE IT'S INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT WHERE THE RIGHT NOW COMPATIBILITY IS TRIGGERED BY, UM, SINGLE FAMILY, FIVE OR LOWER OR CIVIC.
AGAIN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF RIGHT? YEAH, THAT IT'S A, IT'S BASED ON USE, UH, ZONING AND USE DIFFERENT KINDS AND THE CHANGE WOULD, UH, REMOVE, UH, CIVIC, I BELIEVE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, CIVIC USES WOULD NO LONGER, IT WOULD ONLY BE TRIGGERED BY A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.
UH, IS THAT CORRECT? SO WHEN YOU YEAH, IF YOU MAKE THE SHIFT FROM ZONING AND USE TO JUST ZONING, THEN ZONING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THE, WHAT THAT ZONING IS AND NOT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE USE.
SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE ZONING, UH, WHAT THE USE IS, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ZONING.
SO THAT CIVIC USES WOULD NOT NECESSARILY TRIGGER, BUT SINGLE FAMILY ZONING THAT IS NOT USED FOR SINGLE FAMILY PURPOSES WOULD STILL TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ZONING, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, WE WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERING ANY USES.
SO I KNOW, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, UH, AND DIFFERENT AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, STUFF THAT YOU DO NOT REALLY CONSIDER, OR MAYBE THEY HAD A PRIOR USE BEFORE THERE WAS OWN SINGLE FAMILY, UH, THOSE WOULD STILL TRIGGER, UH, COMPATIBILITY RESTRICTIONS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
DID WE, I SWEAR THAT WE HAD ASKED FOR THAT CHANGE, UH, ON IT, BUT I'LL, I'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR NEXT, UH, MEETING WHENEVER THIS COMES BACK TO US.
UM, THE, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE, THE COMPLICATION OF THE PROPOSAL AND THE CONFUSION? UH, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND Y'ALL MENTIONED THAT THAT IS A VERY COMMON CONCERN, I THINK BOTH FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND FROM, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY.
UH, WHAT KIND OF PROBLEMS DO Y'ALL FORESEE WITH NOW WE'RE GOING FROM TWO, YOU KNOW, TYPES OF COMPATIBILITY TO FIVE TYPES OF COMPATIBILITY? UH, PREDICTABILITY IS PROBABLY THE BIG ONE.
I MEAN, UM, NOT KNOWING WHAT KIND OF REGULATIONS WILL APPLY AND, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW THE PROPERTY, UM, IS ZONED, BUT, BUT A ZONED, BUT, BUT ALSO LIKE HOW THE, HOW THE PROPERTY ON THE CORRIDOR IS USED.
SO IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, COMPATIBILITY CAN SHIFT BASED ON HOW THAT CORRIDOR PROPERTY IS USED.
SO IF YOU ARE, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT IN THE LAST WEEK IS HOW DOES THIS APPLY TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR INSTANCE? AND IT'S VERY, VERY HARD TO ANSWER BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE CORRIDOR PROPERTIES ARE GONNA BE USED.
UM, SO FOR A PERSON WHO JUST KIND OF WANTS TO HAVE A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING, IT'S INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE COMPATIBILITY STANDARD WHERE WE CAN AT LEAST SAY THIS IS WHAT IT IS IT, WE WE'RE GONNA BE SAYING, IT COULD BE THIS, IT COULD BE THAT, IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE.
IT'S JUST, IT, IT'S GONNA VARY WILDLY DEPENDING ON THE DEVELOPMENT DANCE IS GONNA BE, IT DEPENDS, BASICALLY.
UH, AND AND I, I GET THAT AND IT, IT'S, IT'S, I THINK IN GENERAL THAT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM WITH OUR CODE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S HARD TO, UH, DECIPHER.
SO WE'RE GOING FROM 540 FEET FOR COMPATIBILITY RESTRICTIONS CURRENTLY TO, UH, A NEW 300 FOOT LIMIT.
BUT AGAIN, THE 300 FOOT LIMIT WOULD ONLY BE FOR CORRIDOR, UH, PROPERTIES.
THAT, THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE RESOLUTION.
NOW WHAT ABOUT OUR PEER CITIES? WHAT, UH, ARE OUR PI CITY, LIKE, WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF, OF COMPATIBILITY IN, IN, IN SIMILARLY SITUATED CITIES? SO PEER, PEER CITIES, UM, TYPICALLY, UH, HAVE COMPATIBILITY THAT ENDS AT ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET OR LESS.
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ANYTHING THAT'S GREATER THAN 540 FEET.UM, AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF OF CITIES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT ARE FAR, FAR COMPATIBILITY ENDS FAR, FAR SOONER.
AND IN PULLING BACK FOR A SECOND, CUZ YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, THINKING ABOUT OUR LAND USE, UH, I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, MAYOR PRO 10 BROUGHT THE, THE, UM, OH LORD, THE COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE HAD OUR, OUR DEBATE OVER THOSE AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE WAS, WE'RE ALWAYS BALANCING LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, HOW MUCH DO WE WANNA KIND OF DEMAND VERSUS KIND OF HOW MUCH DO WE GET? BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE RESIDENTIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION CONTEXT, IN THE COMMERCIAL PARKLAND DEDICATION CONTEXT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE THINK THE, YOU KNOW, EFFECTS ON HOUSING MAY BE FROM, YOU KNOW, IMPOSING THOSE COSTS ON DEVELOPERS, WE'RE GETTING A TANGIBLE RESULT FROM THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE GETTING MONEY THAT WILL GO TO PARKLAND, THAT WILL GO TO IMPROVED PARKS.
AND SO I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH CAN WE GET AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH, UH, UH, UH, HOW WILL THAT AFFECT HOUSING? BUT YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, UM, TO ME THE RESULTS ARE SO KIND OF EPHEMERAL AND, YOU KNOW, SUBJECTIVE THAT WE'RE SACRIFICING ALL OF THIS HOUSING.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AFFECT MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, THE PRODUCTION OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN AUSTIN, MORE THAN JUST ABOUT ANY OTHER ITEM.
I MEAN, IS THAT, IS THAT STAFF'S VIEW? I MEAN THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST BARRIER TO MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S QUANTIFIABLE.
CERTAINLY IT, IT HAS, HAS NOTED IN THE RESOLUTION COMPATIBILITY AS AN ISSUE HAS COME UP, YOU KNOW, IT COMES UP A LOT MM-HMM.
SO IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY A FACTOR THAT WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT.
AND, AND AGAIN, LIKE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT LOSE 20 UNITS ON THIS PROJECT AND 40 UNITS IN THAT PROJECT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHEN YOU ADD 'EM ALL UP AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ADDED 'EM ALL UP, BUT THEY SURE SEEM TO TOTAL LIKE A LOT OF UNITS, WHICH WE COULD ABSOLUTELY USE.
BUT AGAIN, GOING BACK TO KIND OF THE ORIGINAL THEORY OF COMPATIBILITY, WHY DO WE HAVE COMPATIBILITY LIMITS? LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY, WHY DO MOST CITIES LIMIT THEM AT A HUNDRED? LIKE IS THERE SOME GOAL I'VE HEARD LIKE SUN, YOU KNOW, ANGLES TO THE SUN OR LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE THINKING BEHIND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A BASIS FOR HAVING COMPATIBILITY LIMITS? YEAH, I MEAN I, I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A HARD TO QUANTIFY ELEMENT OF, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, OF MAYBE LIGHT AND SPACE AND THAT KIND OF A THING.
UM, THERE IS CERTAINLY, UH, A HEALTH AND SAFETY ELEMENT TO SOME OF IT, LIKE MOVING, SAY, MOVING AN INDUSTRIAL USE FARTHER AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL.
UM, BUT, UH, WHY WE, YOU KNOW, WHY OUR STANDARD IS SO DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CITIES THAT, I DUNNO.
I I I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION COUNCIL MEMBER OUT THERE.
UM, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT THE, THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO TO GET MORE RESIDENTIAL WAS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS WHAT THE NEXT ITEM IS WHEN ALL THROUGH CODE NEXT THROUGH EVERYTHING ELSE, WHENEVER THEY DID THE ANALYSIS, UM, THE, THE THING THAT THEY SAID WOULD GET US THE MOST UNITS WAS ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND, AND SO I'M, I'M PLEASED THAT WE'RE BRINGING THAT ONE FORWARD.
UM, I WANTED TO ASK YOU, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH YOUR CALCULATIONS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT, WHAT THAT IS? UM, I, I PROBABLY CAN'T EXPLAIN IT PARTICULARLY WELL BECAUSE I'M NOT, UH, TECHNICALLY VERSED IN IT.
BUT, UM, WE, WE BASICALLY FOUND A BETTER WAY TO, TO DO THE CALCULATIONS, UM, AND A BETTER WAY TO FIND OUT HOW THE IMPACT ON THE CORRIDOR PROPERTIES IS GONNA, WILL RESULT, UH, AS A, AS A RESULT OF THE RESOLUTION.
UM, DO YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? SO WE'RE DOING A DOUBLE CHECK JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CALCULATIONS ARE ACCURATE AND THEN WE'RE ALSO DOING A SORT OF DIFFERENT SORT OF ANALYSIS, UM, THAT GETS AT A LITTLE BIT OF THE QUESTION OF IN WHAT WAY OR NOT, NOT EXACTLY THE LIKELIHOOD OF REDEVELOPMENT, CUZ WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPACITY, BUT IT LOOKS AT WHETHER THERE MAY BE ENOUGH LAND ON PARCELS THAT COULD REACH APPROXIMATELY 60 FOOT IN HEIGHT, UM, AND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN SORT
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OF BEFORE THE CHANGE AND AFTER THE CHANGE.UM, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S GENERALLY SORT OF A MINIMUM BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, THAT IS NECESSARY FOR SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP, UM, A MULTIFAMILY OR, OR MIXED USE BUILDING.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET TO THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL BE MORE USEFUL INFORMATION.
WHEN YOU DID YOUR CALCULATIONS, DID YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL? YES.
YES, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THAT WAS LIKELY COMING, WE BASICALLY INCLUDED OUR ALL PARCELS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL AS, AS POTENTIAL PARCELS WHERE COMPATIBILITY COULD BE RELAXED.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, PARKLAND DEDICATION, COUNCIL MEMBER, VELA, YOU GET SOMETHING TANGIBLE.
UM, THE WAY THIS IS SET UP IS THAT WE ARE GIVING THE RELAXATION WHEN THEY PROVIDE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THE 10% LEVEL, WHICH IS WHAT WE THINK IS A REASONABLE LEVEL TO BE ABLE TO EXPECT.
UM, BUT WE CAN'T REQUIRE, UM, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE INDUCEMENTS TO DO THAT.
AND SO INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING AWAY THE COMPATIBILITY, WE'RE SAYING, YOU GET THIS IF YOU DO THE HOUSING.
UM, AND THEN IN THE CONCOMITANT IN THE PARTNER RESOLUTION, WE'RE ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL TO HAPPEN IN MORE PLACES.
AND SO THIS IS AN OPTION THAT'S AVAILABLE, UM, IN MORE PLACES.
UM, I HAVE TO BEG TO DIFFER WITH THE, THE COMPLICATIONS BECAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SAYING IF YOU DO RESIDENTIAL, YOU GET FIVE FEET EXTRA, YOU GET THESE SORT OF BASIC THINGS IT DOESN'T TRIGGER ACROSS WHICH INCENTIVIZES THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE WANT.
AND THEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN IDENTIFY IF YOU LIVE ON A MEDIUM OR A, A LARGE OR A RAIL LINE, AND IF THEY DO, UM, THE 10%, THEN THEY GET THE RELAXATION.
AND I'VE EXPLAINED THIS AT SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND IT'S REALLY NOT THAT COMPLICATED.
IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT IT IS DOING WHAT WE SAID, WHICH IS TYING, UM, THE ENTITLEMENTS, THE ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS, UM, TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, AND IT, YOU KNOW, IS INCENTIVIZING THE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT WE WANNA DO IT AND IT'S ALLOWING FOR DIFFERENTIATION ACROSS, UM, DIFFERENT CORRIDORS.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM SOME FOLKS IS EVEN JUST THE LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRIGGERING ACROSS THE CORRIDOR IS GONNA OPEN UP, UM, LOTS IN AND OF ITSELF.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THE COMPATIBILITY, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS, NUMBERS THERE AS WELL.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF A PACKAGE THAT, THAT COMES TOGETHER THAT HAS IT, UM, THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DON'T HAVE, UM, PROPOSALS IN THERE, THE PART ABOUT THE SF THREE, ET CETERA.
UM, AND THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT WE DISCOVERED ALONG THE WAY AS WE PUT THIS TOGETHER THAT WE WANT TO GO BACK AND ADD IN THE CODE.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS ORDINANCE, BUT THERE CERTAINLY COULD BE THINGS THAT WE SAY, HEY, THAT, THAT REALLY WORKS.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN EASY TWEAK TO DO, UM, SOONER.
C I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT SESSION, OUR, OUR NEXT BRIEFING.
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ON TO OUR NEXT BRIEFING.UH, IT'S ON RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BONUS PROGRAM.
CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION REAL QUICK? CHAIR? IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
UH, FOR THE AFFORDABLE, UH, HOUSING BONUS TO GET THE ADDITIONAL COMPATIBILITY, DOES VMU QUALIFY? IT WOULD AS WITH A 10% REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE AFFORDABLE REQUIREMENT IN VMU MEETS THIS STANDARD.
SO WE'RE NOT CREATING A NEW AFFORDABILITY PROGRAM.
JUST ANYTHING THAT HAS AN AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT WOULD, UH, QUALIFY FOR THE COMPATIBILITY BONUS, RIGHT? THERE WOULD BE, THEY COULD, THEY COULD GET THERE USING MULTIPLE, UH, AVENUES.
NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT BRIEF.
UM, I AM GREG DUTTON IN THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS ITEM BEYOND YOUR AGENDA, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL IS A CODE AMENDMENT, UH, SIMILAR TO THE LAST PRESENTATION.
I'LL GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL PROPOSED, UH, CHANGES, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN THE TIMELINE.
SO, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR CURRENT CODE.
CONCEPTUALLY, UH, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF THE DRAFT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, UH, AND THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS SUSPENDED A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
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IS TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES THAT IS, THAT DON'T HAVE A RESIDENTIAL ENTITLEMENT TODAY, ALLOW THEM TO DO RESIDENTIAL, UH, IN RETURN FOR, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.AND SO THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION FROM LATE LAST YEAR SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A LOT OF ZONES IN AUSTIN THAT ARE JUST STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL WITH NO RESIDENTIAL ENTITLEMENT, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A, A NEED FOR, UH, MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE UNITS.
UH, AGAIN, AS A PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DIVISION, THIS CONCEPT WAS IN THERE.
UM, UM, WE NEED MORE HOUSING SUPPLY.
WE NEED MORE HOUSING, UM, UH, THAT, UM, UH, WE NEED, WE NEED MORE HOUSING SUPPLY.
UM, AND THEN AS, AS, UH, SORRY, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
SOMEONE MENTIONED UP THERE, UH, ON THE DIAS THAT THIS IS, THIS WAS RECOGNIZED AS A GREAT WAY TO ADD CAPACITY, HOUSING CAPACITY.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS IT WAS IN THE DRAFT LDC AND, UH, RECOGNIZED AS, AS A WAY TO, TO DELIVER MORE HOUSING.
SO THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL, UM, SAID TO ALLOW THIS NEW PROGRAM IN, UH, HANDFUL OF SPECIFIED ZONES.
SO COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE ZONES, CSCS ONE, G L R G, AND L O.
AND REALLY, YOU WOULDN'T GET TO DO THIS, UH, UNLESS YOU PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE TRADE OFF.
YOU, YOU PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN, IN RETURN, YOU'RE GETTING AN ENTITLEMENT THAT YOU DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ON YOUR PROPERTY.
A PART OF THE RESOLUTION WAS TO ALLOW A RIGHT TO RETURN FOR CREATIVE SPACES.
SO, UM, WE'RE THINKING THAT THAT WILL INCLUDE THIS LIST THAT YOU'VE GOT HERE, THAT, UM, MUSEUMS, PUBLIC ART GALLERIES, UM, VENUES, THEATERS, UM, I WON'T READ THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE RESOLUTION SO THAT IF THERE'S A CREATIVE SPACE THERE, NOW THEY'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO RETURN IN A NEW, IN A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT IS AGAIN, SORT OF OUR STANDARD TENANT, 60 FOR 40 YEARS, TENANT 80 FOR 99.
WE DIDN'T SEE FEE AND LOU IN THE RESOLUTION.
SO THAT'S NOT IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
SO, UH, JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT, THAT IT'S CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED AS DRAFTED.
THIS MAP SHOWS YOU THE DISTRIBUTION OF ALL THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY.
SO THIS IS EFFECTIVELY WHERE, WHERE THIS NEW PROGRAM WOULD BE ALLOWED.
AND, AND SO THE WAY THAT THIS IS DRAFTED, I DO WANT TO POINT THIS OUT CAUSE IT IS A SOMEWHAT OF A DEPARTURE FROM THE RESOLUTION.
SO THE RESOLUTION ROOM COUNCIL SAID, LOOK AT VMU TYPE STANDARDS FOR THIS PROGRAM.
THE, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN YOUR BACKUP IS, IS MORE LIKE AN MU, SO IT'S MORE LIKE THE ADDITION OF AN MU, NOT A VMU.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT, UM, THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, HEIGHT AND PERVIOUS COVER, UH, BUT OR FLOOR AREA RATIO OR PARKING.
SO AS IT'S DRAFTED CURRENTLY, IT IS LIKE THE ADDITION OF AN MU TO PROPERTIES.
UM, AND STAFF REALLY DID THAT.
WE WENT IN THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE ALLOWED, UH, ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND NOT JUST ON TRANSIT CORRIDORS WHERE YOU TYPICALLY SEE VMU PROJECTS.
SO WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE A BETTER FIT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE ALLOWED EVERYWHERE.
UM, THE, THESE TWO GRAPHS BREAK DOWN THE DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, THAT MAP THAT SHOWED ALL THE PROPERTIES IN RED, UH, HOW THEY FALL INTO, UH, DISPLACEMENT RISK AREAS AND HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS ON THE LEFT.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, IT SHOWS YOU HOW THEY FALL WITHIN A HALF MILE OF PROJECT CONNECT, UH, ROUTES AND A HALF MILE CURRENT TRANSIT SERVICE.
AND SO, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ITEM, WE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM.
WE SUPPORT IT WITH A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDED MODIFICATIONS.
ONE OF THOSE MODIFICATIONS IS TO EXCLUDE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN 500 FEET OF A LEVEL FIVE HIGHWAY.
AND THAT'S REALLY BECAUSE, UM, RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT PROXIMITY TO HIGHWAYS DOES HAVE SOME HEALTH IMPACTS.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION IS IN THERE.
AND THEN THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION IS TO MODIFY THIS A BIT SO THAT YOU CAN'T CO-LOCATE RESIDENTIAL USES WITH WHAT ARE CONSIDERED THE MORE INTENSE OR NOXIOUS USES THAT YOU TYPICALLY GET OUT OF LIKE A CS ZONE.
AND SO THIS MAP HERE IS SHOWING YOU THE DISTRIBUTION OF ALL THE PROPERTIES WHERE THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED.
UM, BUT THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UM, THAT ARE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE LEVEL FIVE ROADWAYS
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ARE SHOWN IN RED.SO I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IF YOU, THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF ABOUT EXCLUDING THE 500 FOOT BUFFER EXCLUDING PROPERTIES, IT WOULD TAKE PROPERTIES OFF THE TABLE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE, LITTLE LESS THAN A QUARTER OF THE PROPERTIES WOULD NO LONGER BE ELIGIBLE.
AND THEN THE GRAPH AT THE BOTTOM THERE SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE PROPERTIES, UM, HOW THEY BREAK DOWN INTO HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS AND DISPLACEMENT RISK AREAS.
UH, AND THEN JUST TO FOLLOW ON THAT, THE, THE EXCLUSION OF THE USES THIS LIST IS FROM UM, OUR, OUR COLLEAGUES, UH, OUR ZONING COLLEAGUES.
THIS IS SORT OF LIKE THE LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY TYPICALLY SEE GET COD OUT OF PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERED TOO INTENSE OR NOT APPROPRIATE TO BE CLOSE TO OR CO-LOCATE WITH HOUSING.
AND THEN TIMELINE, THIS HAS BEEN TO THE CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE.
IT WAS RECOMMENDED THERE, IT WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE 25TH, UH, WHERE THEY, THEY HEARD, UH, FROM STAFF.
UM, AND THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION ON THE SECOND, IT WENT BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK.
PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED AND THEY ADOPTED THE ITEM WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A WORKING GROUP AND THEY ALSO HAD A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS FROM THAT WORKING GROUP THAT THEY, UH, ADOPTED.
AND THEN WE'LL BE, WE ARE HERE TODAY OF COURSE, AND THEN WE WILL BE AT COUNCIL ON THE 1ST OF DECEMBER FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I, I HAVE, UH, A QUESTION NOW.
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO EXCLUDE PROPERTY WITHIN THE 500 FEET OF THE HIGHWAY? UH, SO AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT'S REALLY BASED ON, UM, RESEARCH SHOWING THAT PROPERTIES THAT, THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPED NEAR HIGHWAYS, THAT THE TENANTS AND OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE PROPERTIES DO SUFFER HIGHER INCIDENTS OF HEALTH ISSUES BECAUSE OF THAT PROXIMITY.
IS IT BECAUSE ON THE, BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING THEY'RE IN OR IS IT BECAUSE JUST BEING NEAR THE HIGHWAY? CUZ I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF LOW INCOME HOUSING BUILT ALONG 35 RIGHT NOW.
IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON MIGHT WANT TO TO SPEAK ON THAT, BUT I CAN AS WELL.
I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA UM, UH, TAKE UP ANY MORE SPACE THAN NECESSARY.
BUT YEAH, COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, IT COMES UP A LOT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AROUND APPROPRIATE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE.
IT'S COME UP IN MOBILITY, CAME UP IN HOUSING, AND IT JUST KIND OF COMES UP WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALONG HIGHWAYS HAVE MORE INCIDENTS OF ASTHMA AND OTHER RESPIRATORY ILLNESS AND JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S NOT GREAT FOR YOUR HEALTH TO LIVE NEXT TO A HIGHWAY.
UM, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THAT WHOLE CHICKEN AND EGG SITUATION COMES IN THOUGH, CUZ LIKE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO MAKE THE SACRIFICE WITH THEIR HEALTH AND WHATEVER ELSE TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.
AND YOU KNOW, TO SOME DEGREE WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE READILY AVAILABLE AND WHICH ONES ARE SCARCE AND HOW TO MAXIMIZE ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF PROPERTY THAT IS FRANKLY LESS EXPENSIVE AND YOU CAN MAKE MORE DENTS AND TALLER, BUT IT'S NOT IDEAL TO HAVE PEOPLE LIVE THERE.
WELL, THE ONLY REASON I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE I KNOW OF A PIECE OF LAND THERE NEXT TO, UH, THERE ON AIRPORT IN 35 THAT'S, UH, WAS A TAX CREDIT HOUSE.
THAT HOUSING THAT WE BUILT THERE, UH, JUST TWO YEARS AGO OR THREE, THREE YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, THAT'S THE REASON I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION.
AND WE SHOULDN'T BE, UH, GIVEN TAX CREDIT IN THE FUTURE TO ANY OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING ALONG 35 FOR 500 FEET.
CUZ THIS ONE IS RIGHT THERE ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
AND UH, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I, I ASKED THAT QUESTION AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AT PLANNING COMMISSION AS TO WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF CITY CITYWIDE POLICY ON WHETHER HOUSING SHOULD BE NEAR HIGHWAYS AND COUNCIL MEMBER RENTRE.
UM, THE MAIN REASON THAT IT HAS HEALTH IMPACTS IS BECAUSE OF THE POLLUTANTS ASSOCIATED, ESPECIALLY WITH UM, UH, LIKE LARGE TRUCKS.
UM, AND OF COURSE IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE THAT SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE, UM, MUCH OF OUR TRANSPORTATION WILL BE ELECTRIFIED AND THEN IT WON'T BE AN ISSUE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE AT PRESENT.
YEAH, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE EAST SIDE, ESPECIALLY INSIDE
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THE CHILD AREA THERE, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING RIGHT ON THE FRINGE ROAD AND UH, UH, AND WE HAVE BEEN ISSUING PERMITS FOR, FOR, FOR THEM TO CONTINUE BUILDING EITHER ADDITIONAL UNITS AND, AND SO, UH, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT KIND OF POLICIES GONNA BE DEVELOPED WHERE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO LIVE 500 FEET.YOU, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR ME ALSO.
UH, THANK YOU C ANYBODY ELSE HAVE SOME COUNCIL ELLIS? THANK YOU CHAIR.
I JUST, I HAVE A, A LAST THOUGHT ON THAT AND I, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF HAVING MORE HOUSING LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO HIGHWAYS.
UM, BUT I THINK IF WE MAKE THAT POLICY DECISION AS A, AS A COUNCIL BODY, WE SHOULD ALSO BALANCE IT WITH, WELL THEN WHERE IS IT BEST TO HAVE THAT? AND IF WE COULD MOVE MORE TOWARD A PERSPECTIVE OF WALKABLE BIKEABLE COMMUNITIES ARE GOOD FOR DS OR HOUSING, THEN I THINK WE'RE ONTO SOMETHING.
UM, BUT IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE MAP THAT SAYS MINIMIZE COMPATIBILITY ALONG WHERE ALL THE METRO RAPID BUS ROUTES ARE AND ALL THE EXTRA TRANSPORTATION.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT SAYS, DON'T PUT HOUSING NEAR WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION IS.
SO I THINK THERE'S A WIN HERE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAR TRAFFIC VERSUS LIGHT RAIL AND BIKING AND WALKING.
BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO HAMMER THROUGH THAT AS A COUNCIL BODY AND BE VERY DELIBERATIVE ABOUT WHERE WE WANT TO SEE THAT POLICY LIE.
UM, CUZ I, I THINK THERE COULD BE SOMETHING HERE, BUT I'M JUST GETTING SOME MIXED MESSAGES ON WHAT WE'RE TELLING STAFF TO DO.
AND THAT MAY BE WHY STAFF IS COMING BACK WITH, HEY, SOME OF THIS MAY WORK, BUT SOME OF IT MAY NOT.
SO I JUST WANNA FLAG THAT FOR NOW.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SOLVE IT IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR, BUT I THINK IT IS A GOOD CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE.
I I, I THINK THAT IS A VERY INTERESTING, UH, POLICIES THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, IT MAKES SENSE FOR ME CUZ I'M MORE THAN 500.
I'M ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET AWAY FROM THE HIGHWAY AND HE CAN STILL HEAR THE TRUCK NOISE AND, AND WHEN 35 SLOWS DOWN IT, YOU EITHER SMELL THE, THE, THE FUMES THAT FROM THESE BIG TRUCKS.
AND SO, UH, BUT STILL WE'RE, WE'RE STILL ALLOWING PEOPLE TO BUILD AND HOUSES ALONG 35 CAUSE THEY, WE CAN'T TAKE THEIR LAND AWAY FROM THEM.
SO ANYWAY, UH, ANYMORE QUESTIONS? AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, AND I DOUBLE CHECK, WE ARE REDUCING COMPATIBILITY ON THOSE SAME HIGHWAYS THAT WE ARE LIMITING RESIDENTIAL ON, IS THAT? HMM.
UM, AND I'VE, I'VE, I HAVE NOT DUG INTO THOSE STUDIES.
UH, AND OUR HIGHWAYS ARE ALSO, I MEAN, DYNAMIC KIND OF PLACES.
I MEAN, I THINK ABOUT LIKE MOPAC FOR EXAMPLE.
MOHAB HAS A TON OF HOUSING SURROUNDING IT.
UH, I THINK ABOUT I 35 AND I MEAN, NOT ONLY DID DID IT HAVE A TON OF HOUSING, BUT YOU'RE SEEING A TON OF HOUSING AND THIS IS NOT LOW INCOME HOUSING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE'S SOME REALLY FANCY APARTMENT BUILDINGS GOING UP IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEXT TO 35.
UH, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW OUR, IF WE CAN SOLVE FOR THAT.
I MEAN, JUST IN TERMS OF LIKE BUILDING, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR LEAD STANDARDS, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS FOR OUR BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, WHERE I, I DEFINITELY IN, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES, NINETIES, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT MORE POLLUTION, CARS PRODUCED, MORE POLLUTION AND HOMES WERE NOT AS WELL INSULATED AS THEY ARE TODAY.
AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND HOW THAT COMBINATION PRODUCED, UH, SOME VERY SERIOUS HEALTH EFFECTS.
I, I, I JUST WONDER, YOU KNOW, IS THAT STILL THE CASE TODAY GIVEN, UH, A VERY TIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS FOR BUILDINGS AND, AND YOU KNOW, UH, AIR FILTRATION SYSTEMS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF LIKE THAT, UH, OPEN QUESTION THAT I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, UH, LET'S SEE WHAT THE, THE, THE DATA SAYS.
UM, AND THEN JUST THE MU WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A, A VMU DESIGNATION AND THE MU OR A CASINO? WHAT DOES THE MU MEAN FOR A PROPERTY? SURE.
SO THE MU MEANS THAT, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY YOUR CS ZONE TODAY, AND THEN YOU GET THIS WHAT IS EFFECTIVELY AN MU AND LET ME STOP YOU REAL QUICK JUST SO WE DON'T GO TOO DEEP INTO ACRONYMS. CS ZONING WOULD BE, UH, IT, IT'S OUR MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL ZONE.
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ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE ON A CORRIDOR, UM, ALLOWS 60 FEET IN HEIGHT.SO, UM, IF YOU'RE CS, LET'S SAY YOU'RE CS AND YOU GET THIS EFFECTIVE MU, IT MEANS THAT YOU'RE GRANTED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO NO CHANGE TO YOUR SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF ANY KIND? NO, NO CHANGE TO THE PARKING OR THE HEIGHT OR THE IMPERVIOUS COVER OR THE DENSITY.
UM, IT WOULD JUST MEAN YOU GET TO DO RESIDENTIAL AND IT, AND COMPARED TO VMU VMU, UM, YOU GET TO DO RESIDENTIAL, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
LIKE FOR VMU, YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL.
YOU DO GET A PARKING REDUCTION ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU MIGHT OTHERWISE GET IN THE CENTRAL CITY.
UM, UH, YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE HEIGHT IN PERVIS COVER, BUT THE BIG THING WITH VMU IS THAT YOU GET, UH, UNLIMITED DENSITY.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES.
UM, SO THE, THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE, ARE DIFFERENT FOR THOSE TWO THINGS.
AND SO, UM, MU IS NOT GOING TO BE, I'M JUST AGAIN TRYING TO VISUALIZE IT.
THIS WOULD BE, IT WOULD LOOK MORE LIKE NOT YOUR, AGAIN, YOUR TYPICAL VMU WOULD BE LIKE A 90 FOOT TALL BUILDING THAT IS BASICALLY NOT TOTALLY LOT TO LOT, YOU KNOW, NOT, YOU KNOW, CORNER TO CORNER ON THE BUILDING, BUT OCCUPIES A HUGE CHUNK OF THE PROPERTY.
WHEREAS THE MU IS GONNA BE MORE LIKE A TRADITIONAL KIND OF GARDEN STYLE, APARTMENT COMPLEX TYPE.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER MADISON.
UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO COUNCIL MEMBER VELA, IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THAT TOPIC THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AROUND SOME OF THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR RECONCILIATION, ENVIRONMENTAL RECONCILIATION, BUT THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THINK ABOUT HOW ADJACENT TO THAT, UM, UH, LEAKS, UH, POINT ABOUT ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR FLEET AND ALL.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH A BIG FAT OVERLAY OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE SHOULD MORE DENSE, UM, MOBILITY OUTSIDE OF AUTO FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOODS EXIST, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UH, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE A DECISION ON AT, IN 2023 THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURAL IMPLICATIONS IN 2053, AND DID WE MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE? UM, I'D LOVE TO DO SOME JUST BRAINSTORMING AROUND THAT KIND OF SUBJECT MATTER AS WE MOVE INTO THE NEW YEAR AND NEW POLICY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
I, I'VE GOT ONE LAST QUESTION.
AS FAR AS THE WORK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECENTLY, COULD YOU DAYLIGHT WHAT SOME OF THE TOPICS ARE THAT THEY'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ON FOR US? UH, CERTAINLY SO THAT THEY, THEY HAD A WORKING GROUP AND THE AMENDMENTS THAT THEY PASSED ON TUESDAY DID INCLUDE, UH, FOR INSTANCE, TAKING THIS MORE OF A VMU TYPE DIRECTION VERSUS AN MU UH, DIRECTION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, WHAT WE'VE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
SO, SO THEY'RE MORE IN FAVOR OF THE VMU TYPE STANDARDS FOR THIS PROGRAM.
UM, THEY, THEY, THEY DID INDICATE THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT THE 500 FOOT BUFFER AND THE NOXIOUS LIST OF NOXIOUS USES, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS, BUT WOULD LIKE THOSE CONSIDERED, UM, AS PART OF A LARGER DISCUSSION, I THINK AGAIN, SORT OF WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT JUST NOW, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR THE, FOR THE BUFFER ON HIGHWAYS, UM, UH, THEIR WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP FOR, OBVIOUSLY FOR COUNSEL.
SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THEY TOOK ACTION ON FROM THEIR WORKING GROUP, UM, AND ADOPTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS AMENDMENT.
AND I, I THINK THE, THE VMU PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS INTERESTING, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF AFFORDABILITY AND HEIGHT CONVERSATIONS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THAT WALKABILITY THAT, THAT WE'VE BROUGHT UP A COUPLE TIMES.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR BEST USE OUT OF, YOU KNOW, WALKABLE FIRST FLOOR AND PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES.
SO THANKS FOR DAYLIGHTING THOSE AND I'LL LOOK INTO THEM FURTHER FROM, AND JUST, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
CAUSE I MEMBER, UH, HARPER MADISON, AND YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD ALSO TO SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING AROUND I 35, I WAS THINKING, I MEAN WE, MY STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON, UH, THE BERRY AND COVER I 35 TO A LARGER EXTENT THAN JUST A CURRENT PROPOSED JUST DOWNTOWN COVER.
AND IF WE DO THAT, WE CAN CONTROL AND DIRECT THE EMISSIONS.
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YOU CAN DO THAT IN SUCH A MANNER WHERE YOU'RE BASICALLY KIND OF DIRECTING THE NOXIOUS GASES UP INTO, YOU KNOW, THE, A HIGHER LEVEL WHERE, UH, UH, THEY REALLY DON'T AFFECT HUMAN HEALTH.SO AGAIN, SUCH A, IT'S, IT'S SUCH A DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT.
I'D, I'D HATE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PUT A HARD AND FAST RULE, UH, ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT JUST WHEN, AGAIN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH ELECTRIFICATION, UH, OF, YOU KNOW, THE VEHICLES, UH, SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT ALREADY, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE HIGHWAYS BUILDING STANDARDS.
I, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.
I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE HEALTH CONCERNS, BUT I, I, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I I, I REALLY NEED TO BE CONVINCED THAT THEY'RE OVERWHELMING JUST CUZ OUR HOUSING CRISIS IS SO SEVERE THAT, UH, I, I JUST, I HATE TO TURN DOWN ANY SPOT THAT WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT HOUSING IN, ESPECIALLY IN THE CENTRAL CITY, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT'S SO CONVENIENT AND ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE.
IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, KELLY? THEN WE'LL JUST MOVE ON.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE LAST BRIEFING THAT, UH, WE HAVE SCHEDULED DAY, UH, WANTED TO REALLY THANK THE STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.
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UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM TO WORK ON, AND THAT IS THE HOUSING PLANNING COMMITTEE, 2023 PROPOSED MEETING DATES.UH, SINCE I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE, UH, I'M GONNA LET Y'ALL DECIDE AND, AND MAKE THE, UH, DECISIONS.
AND SO IF I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AND KNOWING THAT IN THE FUTURE ANY OTHER MEMBERS COULD, UH, GET TOGETHER AND CHANGE THE DATE, BUT, UH, UH, I THINK THIS IS WHAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND I WOULD TAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION, BUT, UH, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL GUYS.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MEDICINE.
I'M JUST LIKE TO GAUGE FROM MY COLLEAGUES, UM, SOMETHING I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, BUT THEN SUBSEQUENTLY ASK STAFF, UM, JUST IN TERMS OF PROTOCOL, IS IT, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE TO SELECT THOSE MEETINGS NOW OR IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO POSTPONE MAKING THAT SELECTION UNTIL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACCLIMATE TO THE NEW COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY CHOOSES THEIR COMMITTEES, ET CETERA.
I, IT JUST SEEMS THE CADENCE SEEMS OFF TO ME IN THIS ORDER.
UM, BUT DO WE DO IT THIS WAY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STAFF, THEY'RE COMING UP TO, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS, BUT MY GUESS IS THAT AT LEAST FOR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THEY'RE TRYING TO ORGANIZE ROOM RESERVATIONS.
UM, SO PROBABLY YOU NEED TO CHECK WITH THE CITY CLERK TO CONFIRM, BUT THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
I WILL ALSO ADD, AS WE'VE LOOKED AT COMMITTEE SCHEDULES FOR OTHER COMMITTEES I'VE BEEN ON, SOMETIMES WE GET A WHOLE BIG CALENDAR YEAR WITH ALL THIS COLOR CODING AND, YOU KNOW, IF SOME OF US ARE ON AUSTIN WATER AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY, AND WE'RE ALL TRYING TO MANAGE THE SCHEDULES, I THINK IT, IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER TO PICK THEM EARLY IN THE GAME SO THAT WE'RE NOT, NOT TRYING TO FIND THE DATES LATER ON BECAUSE IT GETS REALLY TRICKY TO FIND TIME WHERE THE ROOM'S AVAILABLE, ATX NS AVAILABLE AND OUR SCHEDULES ARE CLEARED TO DO THAT.
SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHY STAFF SUGGEST DOING IT THIS EARLY IN THE GAME, BUT WE HAVE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE IT LATER IF SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK.
MR. CHAIR, IF I MIGHT, UM, THE AGENDA OFFICE DOES ASK US TO WORK WITH THE COMMITTEES TO TRY TO GET A CALENDAR AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN FOR JUST THE REASONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS IS TALKING ABOUT, TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ROOM RESERVATIONS AND WE CAN MITIGATE AS MANY CONFLICTS AS WE, AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
UH, THE NEW COMMITTEE, UM, AND THE NEW CHAIR CAN CERTAINLY HELP US WORK TO REVISE THAT.
BUT, UH, IF WE CAN PIN DOWN ANY OF THE DATES NOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY APPRECIATED BY STAFF COLLEAGUE.
DO I HAVE OVERS? I'M FINE WITH, WITH THE DATES AS A PROPOSAL.
LIKE I SAID, WE CAN KIND OF JUGGLE IT AROUND IN THE FUTURE AS AS NEED BE AND AS OUR, UH, FUTURE, FUTURE COLLEAGUES JOIN US.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND CASE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER VILLA SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE THEIR HANDS.
SO IT'S, UH, UNANIMOUS ON THE DIES WITH.
UH, AND, UH, THAT'S THE FINAL ACTION EXCEPT FOR
[6. Identify items to be discussed at a future meeting]
IDENTIFYING ANY ITEMS THAT WANTS TO BE DISCUSSED IN FUTURE MEETINGS.A QUESTION CHAIR, IS THIS YOUR LAST MEETING AS OUR CHAIR OF HOUSING AND PLANNING? YES, IT IS.
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OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD OVER THIS TIME, SO WE, WE WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.IT HAVE BEEN A, A FUN EIGHT YEARS.
UH, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST FUNN COMMITTEE COMMITTEE THAT YOU CAN BE ON CUZ IT GIVES YOU SO MUCH GRATIFICATION KNOWING THAT WE'RE, UH, WE'RE DOING AND, AND WORK IN OUR HARDEST TO PROVIDE AS MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS IN, IN OUR CITY HOUSING THAT WE DESPERATE NEED.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL WORKING WITH OUR STAFF.
UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, IT WASN'T EVEN HALF AS LARGE AS IT IS NOW, BUT, UH, THEY HAVE DONE SUCH WONDERFUL WORK AND, UH, AND THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT AND HAVE CONTINUED PASSING OUR HOUSING BONDS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, AND BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THE, THAT Y GUYS WORKING IN YOUR, IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.
AND WE WOULDN'T BE HERE SUPPORTING YOU IF IT WASN'T TRUE.
AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK Y'ALL.
IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL EIGHT YEARS WORKING WITH Y'ALL.
UH, SOME OF Y'ALL ARE NEW, BUT SOME HAVE BEEN HERE FOR, FOR A LONG TIME.
REMEMBER Y'ALL FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION THAT I SERVED FOR, UH, 13 YEARS AND I WANT TO SAY THANK Y'ALL.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING WITH YOU.
BUT I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU WERE GONNA BE AT HOME WATCHING THESE MEETINGS THOUGH, DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THAT
SO, UH, WITH, UH, THAT I GONNA ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
IT'S UH, 4:40 PM THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED.