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          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          6 57. 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE MAKING QUORUM TODAY WITH TRAFFIC AND SO ON. 
          UM, BUT SHOCK IS HERE. 
          UH, GAVIN, YOU NEED TO POP YOUR CAMERA ON SO WE CAN COUNT YOU. 
          I'LL TEXT HIM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WITH, UH, THREE MINUTES TO SPARE, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME?  AT 6 57, I'M CALLED TO ORDER THE FEBRUARY MEETING OF THE CITY OF BOSTON MUSIC COMMISSION. 
          AND SO, UH, TONIGHT IN PERSON, IT'S MYSELF AND CHARLOTTE PATTERSON AND OREN ROSENTHAL ARE, UH, HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 
          AND THEN ON VIDEO WE HAVE, UH, SHAKKA, GAVIN, LAUREN, AND SCOTT. 
          SO WE WILL GET GOING. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMUNICATION TONIGHT? NO. 
          THERE WEREN'T ANYBODY SIGNED UP AND NOBODY SIGNED UP IN ADVANCE EITHER. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SIGN THAT I'M HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON AND APPROVE THE MINUTES, UH, FROM THE JANUARY MEETING. 
          AND SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. 
          UM, KIM EMAILED THEM OVER. 
          UM, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY? MOTION TO APPROVE? ALL RIGHT. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. 
          THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY ARE APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MOVING ON TO OUR AGENDA ITEMS. UM, 
          [2. Discussion and possible action following update from Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department, on plans for outreach for funding programs.]
FIRST ITEM DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING AN UPDATE FROM ERICA SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT ON PLANS, UH, FOR OUTREACH FOR FUNDING PROGRAMS. SO THIS IS, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATION EFFORTS FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          HELLO, EVERYBODY. 
          UH, SO I HAVE A WHOLE LIST HERE THAT I'M GOING TO JUST KIND OF DISCUSS WITH YOU MM-HMM. 
           OF WHAT WE DID FOR THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          AND WE WILL PARLAY THIS INTO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM. 
          UH, AND OF COURSE, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU IF YOU THINK THERE ARE ANY OTHER, UH, WAYS THAT WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT. 
          BUT FIRST, LET ME JUST SAY, THE GOAL ALWAYS IS TO REACH BEYOND, YOU KNOW, THE QU YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT WE ALREADY REACH OUT TO. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO SEE NEW APPLICANTS THAT, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS NOT ENGAGED WITH PREVIOUSLY. 
          WE'D LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER APPLIED BEFORE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN REALLY BE SURE THAT THE FUNDING FROM THE CITY AND THAT SUPPORT IS BEING EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED ACROSS OUR COMMUNITIES HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          SO, UM, WITH OUR WONDERFUL COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO DO A LOT AROUND THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          SO FAR WE HAVE AROUND 80 APPLICATIONS STARTED. 
          WE HAVE ALMOST 20 THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY GREAT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES MOST PEOPLE WAIT TILL THE VERY LAST SECOND. 
          UH, THE APPLICATION DOESN'T CLOSE UNTIL FEBRUARY 28TH. 
          SO I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD, HEALTHY CLIP OF, UH, APPLICATION SO FAR. 
          SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, AND THEN I CAN PROVIDE THIS TO YOU WRITTEN, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT YOU HAVE IT. 
          AND I'M JUST NOW, BECAUSE OF THE US BEING OUT ALL LAST WEEK, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON BEING BEFORE YOU, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO READ THROUGH IT. 
          SO, UM, OUR CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM DID OPEN JANUARY 24TH, THE APPLICATION TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THAT. 
          WE DID OUR PRESS RELEASE, UM, AND UPDATED THE WEBSITE WITH ALL APPLICATION QUESTIONS AND GUIDELINES, AND SO THAT PEOPLE HAD THAT TWO WEEKS TO PREPARE, UH, THEIR APPLICATIONS BEFORE IT OPENED ON JANUARY 24TH. 
          UH, AND THEN FROM THE TIME OF THE PRESS RELEASE AND OUR UPDATED WEBSITE TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION OPENING, UM, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO TO KIND OF GET THE WORD OUT. 
          SO, FIRST, THERE WAS THE MARKETING TOOLKIT THAT WE SENT TO YOU GUYS AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION THAT WAS ALSO SENT TO SEVERAL OTHER COMMISSIONS AROUND SIX OTHER COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING THE ARTS COMMISSION, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN RESOURCE ADVISORY, UH, COMMISSION, AND SEVERAL OTHERS, UH, WITH THAT TOOLKIT SO THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, SPREAD THE WORD TO THEIR NETWORKS, THEIR PERSONAL NETWORKS, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN GREAT. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN SO MUCH GREAT FEEDBACK FROM PRESENTING THE GUIDELINES TO COMMISSIONS IN THE PAST. 
          AND SO THEY WERE REALLY ENERGIZED TO BE ABLE TO SPREAD THAT WORD. 
          SO WE ALSO, UM, AFTER THE INITIAL PRESS RELEASE THAT WENT OUT, WE DID SEVERAL INTERVIEWS, BOTH MYSELF AND SYNOVIA HOLT RA, OUR DIRECTOR OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          SO YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY ON 
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KU UTX THROUGH AUSTIN MONITOR, UH, THROUGH SEVERAL TELEVISION STATIONS THAT, UM, WERE WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY. 
          UM, WE ALSO GOT THE WORD OUT THROUGH OUR 9,000 PLUS, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT NEWSLETTER. 
          UH, SO WE HAD THREE MASS EMAILS THAT WENT OUT TO PROMOTE THE GRANT OPPORTUNITY. 
          UH, AND THEN TWO TARGETED EMAILS TO INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS, PERFORMANCE VENUES, ART GALLERIES, AND LIVE MUSIC VENUES WITH A CALL TO ACTION TO JOIN LIVE, UH, VIRTUAL OPEN OFFICE HOURS. 
          SO THOSE OFF OFFICE HOURS TAKE PLACE EVERY THURSDAY AS THE APPLICATION IS OPEN FROM 10:00 AM TO NOON WITH OUR VERY OWN KIM CARSON. 
          UH, THE LINK TO THOSE OFFICE HOURS ARE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          UH, SO YOU CAN GO TO CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE. 
          IT'S AUSTIN TEXAS.GOV/CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN GET THAT LINK TO THE OFFICE HOURS. 
          OUR NEXT ONE WILL BE, OUR NEXT ONE WILL BE THIS THURSDAY AT 10:00 AM CENTRAL TIME. 
          UM, SO WE ALSO HAD A, A PROMINENT FEATURE WITHIN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT'S MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, UH, HOMEPAGE. 
          SO WHEN YOU GO TO ATX MUSIC.ORG, YOU'LL SEE A BUTTON THAT SAYS CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          JUST CLICK ON THAT. 
          THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE WEBPAGE THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'LL NEED, UH, IN SEVERAL LANGUAGES. 
          ALSO, YOU CAN, UH, ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS, BY THE WAY, WERE TRANSLATED INTO NINE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES SO THAT WE GOT THE WORD OUT THAT WAY, AND THE APPLICATION TWO WILL BE IN THOSE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES SO THAT, UM, PEOPLE CAN APPLY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          UM, THEN WE ALSO DID MORE THAN FIVE DEDICATED SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, UM, A ACROSS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS, INCLUDING FACEBOOK, TWITTER, AND INSTAGRAM. 
          AND, UM, WE REACHED ORGANICALLY OVER EIGHT, YOU KNOW, NEARLY 8,000 PEOPLE THROUGH FACEBOOK. 
          AND, UH, WE DID DO SOME PAID BOOSTED ADS ON TWITTER WITH 12,000 IMPRESSIONS AND THEN ORGANICALLY UP TO 6,000 IMPRESSIONS ON TWITTER. 
          UM, AND SO I'LL LET KIM, HOW HAVE THE VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS BEEN? YOU'VE BEEN HAVING GOOD, UH, FEEDBACK. 
          YEAH, SO WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN HOLDING, UH, VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS EVERY THURSDAY SINCE THE, UH, GRANT, UH, WAS OPENED. 
          AND, UH, THEY'RE FOR TWO HOURS FROM 10:00 AM TO NOON, AND THEY'RE ONLINE ON ZOOM. 
          AND, UM, I ANSWER QUESTIONS. 
          PEOPLE CAN POP IN KIND OF WHENEVER THEY WANT TO BETWEEN THOSE HOURS WITH ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE, OR THEY CAN SIT AND HANG OUT AND LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS AND KIND OF LEARN FROM THAT AS WELL. 
          SO THEY'VE BEEN GOING VERY WELL, AND WE'VE, UH, THEY'VE BEEN VERY WELL, UM, UH, PARTICIPATED IN. 
          SO OUR GOAL IS TO ALWAYS, ESPECIALLY WITH CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THIS IS NOW OUR FOURTH ITERATION, I BELIEVE. 
          UH, WE WANNA GO BEYOND THE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE APPLIED MULTIPLE TIMES. 
          WE WANNA BE SURE THAT, UM, WE ARE REACHING THOSE VENUES AND THOSE PERFORMANCE SPACES WITHIN THE E T J, THAT'S THE EXTRA, EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          UM, AND HAVING, MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THAT, THOSE COMMUNICATIONS ARE IN SEVERAL LANGUAGES, ESPECIALLY SPANISH, UH, WE REALLY WANNA BE SURE THAT PEOPLE DO APPLY. 
          UM, NOW LOOKING FORWARD TO LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM. 
          WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE HAVE A UNIQUE POT OF INFORMATION IN THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF GRANT WITH THREE ITERATIONS THAT HAPPENED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. 
          WE HAVE AROUND 3,500 TO 4,000 PEOPLE THAT WE CAN DIRECTLY OUTREACH TO FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM. 
          SO WE WILL DO DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS TO THAT GROUP AS WELL AS ALL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LAYING OUT EVERYTHING WE JUST DISCUSSED OF WHAT WE DID FOR CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          UH, WE WILL LOOK AT DOING SOME ADDITIONAL PAID BOOSTING OF SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, UM, IF THERE THERE ISN'T WIFI AT HOME OR THERE ISN'T A LAPTOP AT HOME, PEOPLE USE THEIR MOBILE PHONES MOSTLY TO GET THEIR INFORMATION. 
          AND SO WE WANNA BE SURE THAT WE HAVE A REALLY AGGRESSIVE CAMPAIGN AS FAR AS DIGITAL CAMPAIGNS ACROSS ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS. 
          SO WE ANTICIPATE, AS WE HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, OF OPENING THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM IN APRIL. 
          SO WE WILL WORK REALLY HARD THROUGH MARCH TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'LL DO THE SAME THING AS BEFORE, ANNOUNCE THE APPLICATION DATE AND GET, UH, THE WEBSITE KIND OF PREPARED WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU'LL NEED TO BE ANSWERING ALL THE ATTACHMENTS. 
          YOU'LL BE EXPECTED TO PROVIDE TWO WEEKS, UH, BEFORE THE, A ACTUAL APPLICATION OPENS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN START PREPPING. 
          AND SO THAT WE CAN START ASKING QUESTIONS OF KIM AND OF OUR STAFF OF ANY KIND OF CONFUSION. 
          THERE MAY BE, AGAIN, THERE WILL BE VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS OPEN TO FOLKS INTERESTED IN THE APPLICATION, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE SPANISH LANGUAGE STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH FOLKS WHO CAN, WHO SPEAK SPANISH SPECIFICALLY. 
          BUT IF THERE 
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ARE ANY OTHER LANGUAGES THAT, YOU KNOW, NEED TRANSLATING, WE HAVE THAT, UH, SERVICE AT OUR DISPOSAL TO TALK TO, TO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE CONNECT WITH COMMUNITY THAT SPEAK OTHER LANGUAGES BESIDES ENGLISH AND SPANISH. 
          SO, UM, SO FAR SO GOOD IN TERMS OF THE ENGAGEMENT WE'RE SEEING, UH, ALSO THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS. 
          I MEAN, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY APPLICATIONS OPEN WITHIN THE PORTAL SYSTEM. 
          AND THEN AS WE GET TOWARDS FEBRUARY 28TH, WE'LL DO SOME CONCERTED EFFORT TO BE SURE THAT, DON'T FORGET FEBRUARY 28TH IS YOUR LAST, YOU KNOW, MOMENT TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT THIS APPLICATION. 
          WE'LL CONNECT WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM AND REMIND THEM, PLEASE REMEMBER TO FINISH YOUR APPLICATION, BUT ALSO TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT AGAIN THROUGH PRESS THROUGH ALL OF OUR NETWORKS, THROUGH YOU GUYS, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE, OKAY, TWO WEEKS OUT AND ONE WEEK OUT, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE KIND OF LIKE A COUNTDOWN OF, UH, TO WIN THE APPLICATION CLOSES ON FEBRUARY 28TH. 
          UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING SO FAR. 
          WE'LL TAKE THE, ANY LESSONS LEARNED FROM THIS PROCESS THAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM NOT ONLY CSAP, BUT FROM THE THRIVE PROGRAM HERITAGE GRANT, AND TAKE ALL OF THESE LESSONS, APPLY IT TO OUR NEXT ROLLOUT, WHICH SHOULD BE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM, TO BE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S HEARING OF THE OPPORTUNITY, UNDERSTANDING OF THE OPPORTUNITY, AND HAVE A SUFFICIENT, UH, PREPARATION AND TIME TO SUBMIT A COMPLETED APPLICATION. 
          SO, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND OR, UH, HEAR FROM YOU GUYS OF ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD RIGHT NOW THAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO BE DOING. 
          SO, UH, TAKE IT AWAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, THAT, THANK YOU FOR LISTING ALL THAT OUT. 
          THAT'S A GREAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PRETTY DIVERSE MIX IN TERMS OF THE, THE MARKETING EFFORTS. 
          UM, I HAD A QUESTION ON THE, SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO THE, UM, PEOPLE THAT HAD, SO FOR ARPA OR FOR DISASTER RELIEF, IS IT JUST RECIPIENTS OR IS IT ALL ALL APPLICANTS? IT WOULD BE ALL APPLICANTS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE HAD 3,200 ELIGIBLE COMPLETED APPLICATIONS, BUT THERE WERE OVER 4,000, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTALS INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          MM-HMM. 
           PERHAPS, UH, THE APPLICATION WASN'T FINISHED BECAUSE THEY REALIZED, OH, MAYBE I'M NOT QUITE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WE WILL NOT ONLY, SO WE WILL FOCUS ON THAT GROUP OF AWESOME MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF GRANT, BUT ALSO THE CREATIVE WORKER GRANT TO BE SURE THAT ALL MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE PROGRAMS ARE AWARE THAT IF YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME ELIGIBILITY DEFINITIONS AS FAR AS PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN AND PROMOTER. 
          SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, REACH BACK OUT TO THOSE FOLKS WHO ALREADY HAVE A PORTAL, UM, REGISTRY LIKE THEY ALREADY ARE IN THE SYSTEM TO, AND WE WILL WORK TO TRY TO GET THEM BACK IN THERE EARLIER SO THAT THEY CAN UPDATE ANY ELEMENTS WITHIN PORTAL THEY NEED TO UPDATE BEFORE THE APPLICATION OPENS. 
          AND WE'LL DO THAT THROUGH PROMOTING OUR PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES PAGE. 
          YOU KNOW, CAUSE ALL OF THOSE MUSICIANS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR LIVE MUSIC FUN EVENT PROGRAM ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IN MARCH, YOU KNOW, NOT DURING SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, BUT EITHER EARLY MARCH OR AT THE END OF MARCH, IS LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, GET BACK INTO PORTAL, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE ALL YOUR INFORMATION IS CORRECT, APPLY FOR OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, SUBMISSION, OUR SUBMISSION FORM FOR PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF DO A LOT OF THE DUE DILIGENCE IN THE WORK OF TOUCHING THOSE FOLKS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, REALLY DOING THE BIG WORK OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUN EVENT PROGRAM IN APRIL. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AND SO IN THAT, THAT OUTREACH, IS THAT BY EMAIL? IT'S THROUGH EMAIL AND THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT YEAH, IF WE HAVE THEM IN THE SYSTEM, IN PART WE'LL DO DEDICATED E-BLAST THROUGH OUR CR OUR, UH, CUSTOMER RELATIONS SYSTEM MM-HMM. 
          , SO IT WOULDN'T JUST BE NEWSLETTER. 
          IT'LL BE ACTUALLY TARGETED E-BLAST TO THOSE GROUPS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES IF THEY SEE A NEWSLETTER KIND OF COME IN AND THE OTHER FOLDER, THEY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE IGNORED EASILY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THIS WILL BE MORE TARGETED, UM, COMMUNICATIONS LIKE, HELLO AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF RECIPIENT OR APPLICANT. 
          THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM FOR YOU TO APPLY FOR IS LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM. 
          AND REALLY BE SURE THAT THOSE ARE TARGETED, UH, COMMUNICATIONS THAT CATCH THE ATTENTION SO THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY OPENING UP THOSE EMAILS AND SEEING THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          UM, YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK PAID ADSS ON SOCIAL MEDIA MM-HMM. 
           ARE REALLY HELPFUL TO INSTAGRAM AND IT'S GREAT. 
          AND WE'VE ALSO DONE DIRECT CALLING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST READING THROUGH DIRECT CALLING TOO TO FOLKS THAT HAVE NEVER APP, YOU KNOW, ENGAGED WITH OUR PROGRAMS. THEY'RE, LET'S SAY WE HAVE THEIR EMAIL AS PART OF A MARKETING SYSTEM. 
          WE KNOW THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE BUT HAVE NEVER APPLIED FOR ANY PROGRAM AT THE CITY. 
          WE'RE CALLING THOSE FOLKS DIRECTLY AND SAYING, HEY, JUST TO BE SURE YOU DO KNOW 
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THAT THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU'RE QUALIFIED FOR. 
          SO THERE'S BEEN A, A LOT OF WORK THERE AS WELL OF JUST CALLING NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE SYSTEM, BUT HAVE NEVER ENGAGED WITH THE SYSTEM. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS THAT COME TO MIND, AND THIS MAY BE ALREADY THINGS THAT Y'ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT BEING PUTTING INTO THE MIX, AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BUDGET FOR IT, BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, OUTDOOR DISPLAY MARKETING MM-HMM. 
           BILLBOARDS, BUS WRAPS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, POSTERS OF QR CODES, ESPECIALLY DURING SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, THAT MIGHT BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO PUT THOSE UP ON RED RIVER AND SIXTH AND ALL THE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CLUBS. 
          UM, AND I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S EVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, I DON'T KNOW, SOME KIND OF POPUP. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY MUSIC PLANTS THE CITY HAS ANY MUSIC PLAN FOR SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, UH, BUT THAT WOULD BE COOL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW TO BRING PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES BACK. 
          SO IF THAT'S PO SOMETHING POSSIBLE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER AND HAVE IT ALSO BE AN OUTREACH OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. 
          THAT THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          UH, TYPICALLY WITH THE CITY, BECAUSE OF TRYING TO GET TO ZERO WASTE, WE DON'T FLYER ANYMORE. 
          MM-HMM. 
           WITH PAPER , UH, IT'S ALL DIGITAL, BUT I THINK, BUT WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING WITH SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST AGAIN ON THE COMMUNITY SHOWCASES FOR MUSIC MM-HMM. 
          , WHICH IS, UM, PAYING THOSE GUARANTEES FOR THOSE LOCAL MUSICIANS LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. 
          IT WAS SU SUCH A SUCCESS LAST YEAR. 
          WE'RE EXPANDING THAT TO TWO LOCATIONS. 
          SO I THINK WE COULD ALSO DO SOME CALL OUTS FROM STAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN IF IT'S JUST ONE BIG POSTER AT THE VENUE YEAH. 
          WITH THE Q CODE, LIKE, HEY SNAPS AND IT TAKES YOU TO THE WEBPAGE. 
          UM, I, I THINK THE THINKING AND MARKETING, AND YOU KNOW THIS, I MEAN, YOU JUST HAVE TO, PEOPLE HAVE TO SEE THINGS LIKE THREE TIMES  MM-HMM. 
           BEFORE THEY RESPOND, OR SOMEHOW IT REALLY GETS LODGED SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH SOUTH BY COMING TO TOWN, I DO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, UM, TO REALLY DO GREAT OUTREACH. 
          BUT, UM, A BUS WRAP WOULD BE COOL TOO. 
           A BUS RIDE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEIR BUSES ARE ALWAYS, WE ARE ALWAYS ALL BEHIND THEM ALL THE TIME, SO. 
          YEAH. 
          OR YOU HAD A THOUGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THE MUSIC CENSUS MM-HMM. 
          , RIGHT? THERE WERE, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE RESPONDED TO THE MUSIC CENSUS, BUT IS THAT ANOTHER SOURCE OF, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, ARTISTS? UH, DO, DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THEIR, WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK TO THE ORGANIZERS OF THAT CENSUS MM-HMM. 
           TO PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERYBODY THAT RESPONDED, UH, TO BE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT. 
          ALSO WITH OUR MEDIA PARTNERS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, K UTX WHO, WHO WE'VE ALSO ARE A PARTNER WITH LOVE AUSTIN MUSIC MONTH. 
          THEY WERE A PARTNER WITH THE MUSIC CENSUS, TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT THROUGH ALL OF THEIR NETWORKS TO LOCAL MUSICIANS, UM, AS WELL AS JUST COMMUNITY PARTNERS ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LIST OF ALWAYS COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WILL SEND THAT TOOLKIT TO SO THAT THEY SPREAD THE WORD, WHETHER IF IT'S ATX MUSICIANS, AUSTIN MUSIC FOUNDATION, ALL THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT CATER TO, UH, MUSIC PROFESSIONALS HERE IN AUSTIN TO PLEASE GET THE WORD OUT AS WELL. 
          AND I JUST WANNA SAY, I'M SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU MADE SUCH GOOD USE OF THAT LIST OF 3,200 TO 4,000 PEOPLE. 
          I MEAN, IF WE CAN MAKE LEMONADE OUT OF THE LEMONS OF THE PANDEMIC, GREAT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          GREAT THINKING THERE. 
          IT WAS A GREAT WAY FOR US TO GET THE, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW WHO OUR AUDIENCE IS THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A VERY INSPIRATIONAL TIME FOR PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER FOR SUPPORT. 
          AND SO THAT'S SOME VALUABLE INFORMATION THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO KIND OF DIRECTLY COMMUNICATE WITH THEM AND NOT JUST STICK 'EM IN AN E-BLAST, YOU KNOW, WITH OTHER NEWSLETTER, YOU KNOW, A BIG NEWSLETTER BLAST. 
          IT'S GONNA BE THOSE REALLY, UH, TARGETED COMMUNICATIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE KEY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DID, UH, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD. 
          THEN WE WILL MOVE ON. 
          UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, ERICA. 
          UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 
          [3. Discussion and possible action following update from Budget and Bond Working Group.]
THREE, UM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM THE BUDGET AND BOND WORKING GROUP. 
          SO THAT'S ME GIVING THAT UPDATE. 
          UM, CUZ I GOT PUT IN THAT WORKING GROUP AT THE LAST MEETING THAT I MISSED. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MISS A MEETING. 
          BUT , BUT THAT'S GREAT. 
          THAT BUDGET'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LOT, VOLLEY AND I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING IT A LOT. 
          SO THAT GROUP, UM, IS, UH, VOLLEY AND MYSELF AND, UH, SCOTT STRICKLAND AND, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE GROUP ALSO. 
          SO THERE'LL BE FOUR OF US. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE AN ONGOING GROUP IS DIFFERENT THINGS COME UP, BUT THE CURRENT THING THAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS THAT NEED TO BE TURNED IN FROM THE COMMISSION, UM, AT THE END OF MARCH. 
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AND MY THOUGHT ON OUR APPROACH TO BUDGET THIS YEAR, AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF Y'ALL ABOUT THIS, UM, IS THAT REALLY THE WAY THAT THE COMMISSION CAN, UM, BE MOST EFFECTIVE IN OUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO SEE WHAT, UM, WHAT BUDGET RE REQUESTS ARE GONNA BE MADE BY CERTAIN UNITS OF THE CITY THAT, UH, ALIGN WITH, UM, THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADVANCE FOR THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND THE MUSIC COMMUNITY HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          SO, UH, DAVID GRAY AND I HAVE CHATTED A LITTLE BIT FROM DAVID GRAY FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          HE'S, UM, IN THE, HE'S, HE'S LISTENING IN IN THE MEETING TONIGHT. 
          AND ALSO, UH, I'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF, OF CONVERSATION WITH, UH, ANNE GATLING HAYNES FROM THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AS THEY'RE WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL TRUST AND CREATIVE SPACE ISSUES. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE TWO AREAS WHERE WE CAN TACK ON, UM, TO EXISTING NEEDS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR COUNCIL WHEN WE, OUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS GO OUT, IF WE CAN SUPPORT ANOTHER ORGANIZATION AND THAT ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, HAS STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER ALL THE INFORMATION AND EXPLAIN IT TO COUNCIL, THAT ACTUALLY GIVES MORE WEIGHT TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UM, BUT THAT SAID, WE OURSELVES, THE BUDGET AND BOND WORKING GROUP CAN TAKE ANY IDEAS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS OF THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE FUNDING PUT TOWARDS, AND WE CAN, UH, DO THE RESEARCH AND SEE WHO'S WORKING ON THAT OR WHO COULD BE WORKING ON THAT. 
          UM, SO, UH, LAUREN, COMMISSIONER GOLD GOLDEN NIGHT TODAY, LAUREN AND I HAD A, A CONVERSATION A BIT ABOUT, UM, HOW WEATHER DISASTERS CAN, CAN AFFECT, UM, OUR MUSICIAN COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO, LAUREN, DID YOU WANNA, CAN YOU POP IN AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR, YOU HAD A GREAT IDEA TODAY. 
          THANKS. 
          SURE. 
          CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? WE CAN. 
          SWEET. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          UH, IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE  WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE EXTREME WEATHER, UM, EACH YEAR. 
          IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING. 
          AND BETWEEN THE PANDEMIC AND THESE ICE STORMS AND EVERYTHING, UM, I, IT, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE LIKE A RUNNING DISASTER RELIEF FUND, UH, FOR MUSICIANS WHO LOSE WORK AND DON'T HAVE ANY PAID TIME OFF OR DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, UM, ANY WAY TO RECOUP THOSE, UH, FUNDS THAT WE WERE COUNTING ON, UH, WHENEVER THINGS ROLL THROUGH AND EVERYTHING HAS TO GET SHUT DOWN. 
          UM, SO YEAH, I GUESS IT WAS KIND OF, THE IDEA WAS KIND OF IF, IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO SET ASIDE SOME SORT OF RAINY DAY FUND THAT SOUNDS, MAKES IT SOUND SO ENDEARING FOR WHAT IT IS, . 
          BUT, UM, JUST TO HELP, UH, THAT PEOPLE COULD APPLY FOR, YOU KNOW, IF THEY LOST A LOT OF WORK AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR RENT BECAUSE ALL THEIR GIGS GOT CANCELED CUZ AN ICE STORM SHUT THE CITY DOWN. 
          UM, SO YEAH, THAT WAS BASICALLY THE IDEA. 
          AND I MEAN, THERE COULD BE THE PERSPECTIVE OF DIRECTLY MUSICIANS DIRECTLY APPLYING FOR IT, OR ALSO, YOU KNOW, VENUES WHO ENDED UP HAVING TO CLOSE CAN APPLY FOR IT SO THAT THEY CAN PAY THE MUSICIANS WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN PAID. 
          OR, UM, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT STICKY IF IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE IT'S A COVER OR IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF THE BAR OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SET FIGURE, BUT, UM, THAT COULD ALL GET IRONED OUT. 
          UM, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT IF, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE, UM, WHERE TO DIRECT THE ENERGY TO TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, LIKE WHAT ORGANIZATION AT THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE, THE WORKING GROUP CAN LOOK INTO THAT. 
          UM, AND ALSO, SO WE HAVE BEEN DECLARED A DISASTER AREA, SO THERE SHOULD, THAT SHOULD TRANSLATE INTO FUNDING. 
          I DON'T REALLY EXACTLY KNOW HOW IT WORKS, BUT THERE MAY BE FUNDS COMING IN SO WE CAN POSSIBLY TAP INTO THAT AS LIKE, POSSIBLY LIKE A DEDICATED STREAM FOR CREATIVE WORKERS THAT WERE OUR MUSICIANS SPECIFICALLY THAT, UM, LOST GIGS DUE TO THE POWER OUTAGES. 
          YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, UM, I, I WANTED TO JUST, UM, I GUESS KIND OF ADD TO THAT I ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY SUPPORT, UM, UH, UH, THIS, UH, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          UM, I THINK THAT 
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ONE THING THAT I MIGHT EVEN WANT TO ADD TO THAT IS PROBABLY, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT WITHSTANDING WEATHER, UH, SOMETHING THAT MAYBE, UH, LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, A MUSICIAN GOT COVID OR GOT SOME KIND OF ILLNESS OR SOMETHING SICK, MAYBE THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY USE A DISASTER RELIEF, UM, TO PAY THEIR BILLS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO A GOFUND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT. 
          BUT IT'S A GREAT IDEA, LAUREN. 
          IT'S AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I MEAN, AND THE THOUGHT THAT I'M HAVING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MORE AND MORE EXTREME WEATHER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT'S DIRECTED TOWARDS AUSTIN ENERGY TO INCREASE, YOU KNOW, REPAIR WORKER CAPACITY, LIKE MORE STAFF. 
          WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, CREWS THAT WERE BROUGHT IN FROM OTHER AREAS. 
          UM, SO I, THAT DOES SHOW ME THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT. 
          SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COMING UP FOR AUSTIN ENERGY, YOU KNOW, MORE FUNDING FOR THAT, MORE FUNDING FOR BASIC SERVICES. 
          I KNOW A LOT OF THE, THE FUNDS FROM AUSTIN ENERGY ARE ACTUALLY TRANSFERRED INTO THE GENERAL FUND, UH, THAT HELPS SUPPORT OTHER THINGS AT THE CITY. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE AN ARGUMENT, UM, SOMETHING MAY COME FORTH WHERE THE AUSTIN ENERGY IS KEEPING MORE OF THAT FUNDING SPECIFICALLY FOR WEATHER PREPAREDNESS. 
          UM, AND ANOTHER ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, UM, BUDGET REQUESTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COMMISSION SUPPORT. 
          ALSO, ANOTHER, UM, THING THAT CHEETAH VELOS OFFICE COM, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER VELOS OFFICE IS WORKING ON IS A, THIS IS MORE OF A ZONING ISSUE, BUT IT MAY REQUIRE SOME FUNDING. 
          UM, SO FOR VERTICAL MIXED USE ZONING, THAT'S, AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT'S LIKE HOUSING ON THE TOP WITH RETAIL, UM, ON THE BOTTOM. 
          AND A LOT OF TIMES THE RETAIL SPACE, SOME PORTION OF IT SITS VACANT. 
          AND, UM, HIS, ONE OF HIS POLICY ADVISORS, TIMOTHY BRAY, IS WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER AVELA TO LOOK INTO HOW POSSIBLY THOSE SPACES COULD BE USED FOR CREATIVE USES. 
          SO RECORDING STUDIO SPACE, REHEARSAL SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO IF THEY MAKE A BUDGET REQUEST RELATED TO HELPING SUBSIDIZE THAT SPACE, SO THAT WOULD BE VERY AFFORDABLE SPACE. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPERS FOR THOSE PROJECTS. 
          LIKE THEY WOULD BE PART OF THEIR ZONING REQUEST BEING APPROVED FOR VMU WOULD INCLUDE THEM HAVING A PORTION OF THE SPACE AS AFFORDABLE, UM, CREATIVE SPACE. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          THE LAND USE WORKING GROUP IS GONNA BE TALKING MORE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VELAS OFFICE ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT IT, I MEAN, IT CAN BE ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL WOULD THINKING, WOW, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE THAT THE CITY WOULD FUND THIS. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, LIKE THE MUSICIAN, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT PERFORMANCE PROGRAMS. WE'VE HAD, UM, OMAR FROM VISIT AUSTIN HERE TALKING ABOUT MARKETING BUDGETS. 
          SO I'LL REACH BACK OUT TO HIM AND SEE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THERE. 
          BUT YEAH, SO THE CITY BUDGETS GINORMOUS DOCUMENT, IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR COUNCIL TO REALLY FINALLY APPROVE THE, THE FINAL VERSION OF WHAT IS A, YOU KNOW, $5 BILLION PLUS BUDGET. 
          SO AS A COMMISSION WE CAN CERTAINLY HELP GUIDE AND SHAPE THAT AND SUPPORT EXISTING EFFORTS, UM, GOING FORTH. 
          SO ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? AND IF NOT, YOU CAN EMAIL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING YOU CAN EMAIL MYSELF OR SCOTT OR, UM, VOLLEY OR, OR, AND THEN WE'LL ALL PICK A TIME TO GET TOGETHER TO, UM, KIND OF DIVIDE AND CONQUER ON HOW WE CAN RESEARCH, UH, EFFORTS BY OTHER UNITS AT THE CITY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD LAUREN. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, YEAH, I DID HAVE ONE MORE, UH, QUESTION. 
          SO WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH THIS, IF THIS AT THIS WITH THIS BUDGET, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, TO KIND OF GO OVER IT AGAIN IN FUTURE YEARS. 
          LIKE IT'S GONNA BE, THIS IS LIKE A ONE TIME THING AND YEAH, SO IT'S THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S AN ANNUAL EFFORT. 
          SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT TOGETHER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, I THINK THEY'RE DUE MARCH 31ST, BUT THEN ALL THE BUDGET WORK 
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GETS DONE. 
          A LOT OF IT GETS, HAPPENS IN JULY. 
          UM, I GUESS COUNCIL TAKES LIKE A LITTLE SUMMER, SUMMER BREAK, AND THEN FROM THEN THROUGH AUGUST THEY'RE VERY OCCUPIED WITH BUDGET. 
          SO WE WOULD PUT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN. 
          BUT THEN A SECOND PART OF THAT, UH, MIGHT BE TO, YOU KNOW, CHEERLEAD FOR THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT SAY, HEY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, JUST REMINDING YOU THAT MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT WE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET REQUEST FROM ADC, HERE'S WHY WE SUPPORT IT. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND HALF OF THE EFFORT AND THEN DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN IN 2024 . 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROCESS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I GUESS KIND OF THE, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE, UM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT POTENTIALLY LIKE IF THIS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CATASTROPHIC OR DISASTER RELIEF OR, OR, YOU KNOW, ILLNESS, WHATEVER IT IS, FUND, UM, IF WE WERE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOGETHER AND MAKE IT A, A RECURRING PROGRAM OR A, LIKE A STANDING PROGRAM MM-HMM. 
          , UM, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE CONTINGENT ON, UH, EVERY TIME THERE'S A BIG DISASTER OF ENRIQUE MEANING AND ACTIVATING THIS PROGRAM MM-HMM. 
          , UM, JUST TO STREAMLINE IT SO THAT THAT WAY IT'S JUST THERE. 
          UM, IS IT SOMETHING, I'M JUST CURIOUS, MAYBE STAFF CAN, MAYBE WE, PEOPLE CAN THINK ABOUT IT AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT I'M CURIOUS WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS TO ACTUALLY SET UP A STANDING FUND THAT MAY, IT, IT MAY HAVE TO GET, YOU KNOW, RE-UPPED EVERY YEAR, BUT THAT IT COULD BE, UM, ESTABLISHED AS A, AS AN ONGOING THING. 
          SO I GUESS THAT'S, SORRY THAT'S VERY LONG WINDED, BUT THAT'S MY . 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I AGREE. 
          I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT COULD WORK SO WE'LL LET'S, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING, BUT IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT WE DO AS COMMISSIONERS OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING, WE'LL TRY TO FIND OUT AND IT'S, I'M, I'M NOT EXACTLY EVEN SURE WHO TO START WITH. 
          PROBABLY SYNOVIA HOLT, ROB, SHE KNOWS ABOUT ALL THINGS FINANCIAL AT THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, SHE'S DIRECTOR OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THAT'S CERTAINLY A, YOU KNOW, AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE. 
          IT COULD BE, UM, I MEAN, IT COULD EVEN BE A HOT FUNDED THING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOSING MUSICIANS BECAUSE OF DISASTER ISSUES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MU MUSIC IS PART OF OUR TOURISM, UM, DRAW, THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING MUSICIANS THROUGH TOUGH TIMES IS, IS A HEADS AND BEDS THING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOT CAN BE USED IF YOU ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU GET PEOPLE IN AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE STAYING HOTEL NIGHT STAYS. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, I MEAN, AND I'M JUST THROWING SOME THINGS OUT HERE. 
          SO I THINK THAT THERE'S POSSIBILITIES. 
          WE JUST NEED TO LOOK INTO IT AND SEE WHO TO TALK TO. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YES, I'VE GOT THAT ON MY LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN OUR BUDGET GROUP. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD JUST SCOPE IT OUT, RIGHT? WE SHOULD JUST LOOK AT HOW BIG THE PROBLEM IS. 
          HOW OFTEN HAVE THESE SIGNIFICANT EVENTS HAPPENED? WHO ARE THE MUSICIANS INVOLVED GETTING AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY, AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT REALLY JUST HOW BIG A PROBLEM IT IS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S A BIG PROJECT. 
          . 
          WELL, THAT'S, YEAH. 
          AND SO IT COULD START WITH A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION, BUT, UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO, I MEAN, IF THERE'S NOTHING FOR US TO EXISTING, FOR US TO ATTACH IT TO, WE CAN STILL PUT IT IN OUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND THAT'S THE GENESIS OF THIS PROJECT FOR ESTABLISHING A FUND LIKE THAT. 
          UM, COULD BE ANOTHER WORKING GROUP , BUT, BUT, UM, SO . 
          UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, PART, PART OF WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATION PROCESS IS IT DOES HELP US THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE SOME PROBLEMS THAT CAN BE SOLVED, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN MUSIC COMMISSION HELP WITH? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS FOR SURE. 
          BUT YEAH, THAT JUST SOME HOMEWORK FOR US TO DO THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, SO WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE MARCH MEETING, UM, THE BUDGET AND BOND WORKING GROUP. 
          WE'LL COME FORTH WITH A BUDGET DOCUMENT AND SAY, WE DID THIS LAST YEAR, WE HAVE LIKE A BUDGET PRO, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          WE'LL SHARE IT WITH EVERYBODY, VOTE ON IT. 
          UM, WE CAN MAKE, WE CAN AMEND IT DURING THAT MEETING IF WE WANNA MAKE SOME LITTLE CHANGES, BUT WE'LL VOTE ON THAT, THAT DOCUMENT. 
          AND THEN, UM, AND THEN KIM WILL HELP US SEND THAT ON UP TO CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THAT VERY, THAT, THAT PROCESS IS THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MAGIC WORKS, 
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BUT KIM DOES. 
          SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'LL BE THE PROCESS FOR IT. 
          SO NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE, THIS WILL BE AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE NEXT, UH, AT THE MARCH MEETING AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO ITEM FOUR, 
          [4. Discussion and possible action following update on how the Music Commission can promote City work independently from the Music and Entertainment Division.]
UM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE ON HOW MUSIC COMMISSION CAN PROMOTE CITY WORK INDEPENDENTLY FROM THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION. 
          AND I SO NOT, I WAS NOT AT THE LAST MEETING, AS I SAID, AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE IS WHAT, UM, WHAT DISCUSSION PROMPTED THIS. 
          SO WAS ANYBODY, DOES ANYBODY WANNA JUMP IN ON THIS ITEM? I THINK THIS WAS TALKING ABOUT, IS IT SOCIAL LIKE MUSIC COMMISSION, SOCIAL MEDIA EFFORTS, OR ERICA, DID YOU HAVE YOUR, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE SOME YEAH, I THINK THAT, UH, THERE WAS GONNA BE SOME, YOU KNOW, OUTREACH TO THE ARTS COMMISSION ABOUT THEIR NEWSLETTER AND THEIR FACEBOOK PRESENCE AS THE ARTS COMMISSION. 
          UH, CUZ I THINK THEY HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST NEWSLETTER THAT THEY MANAGE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENTLY FROM STAFF, UH, THAT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WELL RECEIVED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO I AM, UH, YEAH, SELENA, THE CHAIR OF THE ARTS COMMISSION DID ACTUALLY MAKE ME, UM, AN ADMIN ON THAT PAGE, UH, LIKE 10 DAYS AGO. 
          SO I HAVE ACCESS TO IT , SO YEAH. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S EASY ENOUGH. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE I CAN START TO SHARE MUSIC RELATED THINGS. 
          RIGHT NOW IT'S BEEN PRIMARILY CULTURAL ARTS, BUT WE'LL JUST, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SHE'S GREAT. 
          PERFECTLY HAPPY FOR US TO SHARE THAT PAGE TOGETHER. 
          AND IT'S, UH, ALREADY GOT LOTS OF FOLLOWERS AND SO ON. 
          UM, SO WE CAN DO THAT. 
          AND THEN, SO THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, Y'ALL, YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR OWN FACEBOOK PAGE AS WELL? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN SHARE THINGS FROM YOUR PAGE. 
          I CAN SHARE THINGS FROM YOUR PAGE TOO, THAT GROUP, UM, THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASY. 
          SO IF THERE'S JUST SOME, SOME EXISTING CONTENT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO IS CREATE LIKE EVENT EVENTS FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS MM-HMM. 
           AND INVITE YOU GUYS TO THEM, AND THEN YOU CAN INVITE YOUR PERSONAL NETWORKS TO THAT. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH GREG GONZALEZ ON, UM, CREATING THOSE EVENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LATEST IS ON THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST, I THINK WE WERE JUST WAITING FOR THE SCHEDULE, AND SO WE CAN JUST CREATE THEM ALL AT ONCE FOR THE, THIS FISCAL YEAR AND DO THAT EVERY YEAR, AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN SHARE THAT ORGANICALLY THROUGH YOUR OWN NETWORKS AND INVITE YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR FRIEND NETWORKS TO THOSE INVITES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, SO THAT'S GREAT. 
          I HAVEN'T MET GREG YET, BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. 
          SO, UH, I'LL JUST GIVE HIM A CALL AND WE CAN CHAT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO, UH, YOU KNOW, EVENT EVENTS LIKE THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING, WHICH IS SO EXCITING AND FUN , BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, IF THERE ARE ANY CITY MUSIC EVENTS, YOU'RE SOUTH BY, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, PROMOTING THE LIVE MUSIC FUNDS PORTAL, UM, ALL OF THAT. 
          IT, UM, YEAH. 
          SO THAT, AGAIN, IT WOULD JUST BE, IF, IF THAT PLACE ON FACEBOOK HAS, UH, IS A, A CENTER FOR ALL THOSE KINDS OF CONTENT THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO SHARE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S HOW IT COULD WORK. 
          UH, LAUREN, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, KIND OF FILL IN A COUPLE OF THE GAPS FROM THE LAST MEETING. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          YEAH, PLEASE DO. 
          THANKS. 
          ONE QUESTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS IT CAME UP WAS, UH, ACTUALLY GOING BACK TO, UM, ALL OF THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT, UH, ERICA AND COMPANY HAVE DONE TO PROMOTE THE, UM, UH, CREATIVE SPACES ASSISTANCE GRANT. 
          UM, I WAS ASKING ABOUT HOW THE MUSIC COMMISSION CAN BE MORE ENGAGED IN JUST KIND OF SHARING AND RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT WHAT WE WE DO AT THE COMMISSION AND WHAT, UM, IS GOING ON AT THE CITY LEVEL AND WHAT RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE. 
          UM, BECAUSE I THINK, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE ABOUT HOW, HOW TO HAVE MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, FROM DIRECTLY FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          UM, AND SO THAT KIND OF SPURRED THIS SOCIAL MEDIA CONVERSATION ABOUT MAYBE, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE OUR OWN MUSIC COMMISSION PAGE. 
          AND THEN LIKE THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, HOW DO WE DO, HOW, HOW DO WE DO THAT AND MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, UH, BEING CAREFUL ABOUT QUO RULES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, UM, IN TERMS OF HAVING PEOPLE, ALL OF US GATHERED IN A PLACE. 
          UM, SO YEAH, I THINK HAVING STAFF, LIKE CREATE 
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EVENTS FOR THE MISSIONS, UH, MEETINGS AND THEN SHARING, UM, WHATEVER WE'RE WORKING ON, AND THEN WE CAN ALSO SHARE THEM. 
          UM, I THINK COLLABORATING ON THAT IS GREAT. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING AT THE LAST MEETING, IT'S, IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE GONNA NEED TO KIND OF REINVENT THE WHEEL AND, AND SOMEONE WAS GONNA NEED TO VOLUNTEER TO  TO START A WHOLE SLEW OF, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF FROM THE MUSIC, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION. 
          AND THAT SEEMED OVERWHELMING, BUT IF WE CAN COLLABORATE ON IT, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HELPFUL, BUT YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND I, I THINK, UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IT MAY NOT BE WITHIN THE BANDWIDTH OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO DO CONTENT CREATION, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY HELP SHARE AND, UH, AND I, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GREAT COM COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WITHIN ED D UM, SO IF WE CAN SHARE, YOU KNOW, BRANDED MUSIC DIVISION, UM, CONTENT, I THINK WE CAN GET INTO A REALLY GOOD RHYTHM WITH THAT. 
          AND ALSO UTILIZE THE, UH, THIS EXTERNAL FACEBOOK PAGE THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION HAS SET UP, UM, AND THEN I THINK WOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE. 
          SO YEAH, SO I'LL CHAT WITH GREG GONZALEZ ABOUT THAT. 
          SOUNDS LIKE HE'S, HE'S GONNA BE HELPING WITH THOSE EFFORTS. 
          AND, UM, BUT ONE, ONE THOUGHT THAT I HAVE, AND THIS, UM, REALLY EVEN RELATES TO CSAP, TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND PROMOTION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UH, JUST HAVING A CONSISTENT LOOK AND FEEL AND VOICE, UM, I THINK IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO REALLY ALWAYS RECOGNIZE LIKE, OH, YEAH, OKAY, THAT'S MUSIC DIVISION, THAT'S CITY OF AUSTIN MUSIC DIVISION. 
          UM, SO THERE MAY, THERE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A FOCUS ON THAT KIND OF VISUAL BRANDING, UH, WITHIN ED D, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE ATX MUSICIANS REPRESENTATIVES IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, AND THEY, THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THAT. 
          IT'S NOT A COMPLICATED LOOK, BUT IT'S, IT LOOKS GREAT AND IT'S ALWAYS RECOGNIZABLE. 
          LIKE WHEN I SEE ONE OF THEIR POSTS POP UP, I'M LIKE, OH, ATX MUSICIANS. 
          LIKE, OH YEAH, I'M INTERESTED IN THAT. 
          SO, UM, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION HAVE THAT SAME, UM, THAT MUCH OF A VISUAL IMPACT. 
          AND I, I'M CERTAIN THAT, THAT THERE'S TALENTED FOLKS AND, AND ED D THAT CAN HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          AND SO WE'D BE EXCITED TO SH YOU KNOW, SHARE THAT CONTENT. 
          UH, AND YEAH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL REMIND OURSELVES FREQUENTLY THAT WE NEED TO BE PARTICIPATING IN THAT EFFORT AS COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GREAT. 
          JUST KICKING ALONG. 
          SO ITEM FIVE, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, EVERYBODY'S GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM FIVE. 
          OH, YEP. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          SCOTT, YEAH, SORRY, I, UM, GO AHEAD. 
          I, I JUST KIND OF WANT, WANT, WANTED TO JUMP IN THERE A LITTLE BIT AND, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT THERE IS, WELL, IT'S NOT THAT I THINK, I KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT LIKE, WHAT'S HAPPENING AND JUST THE MUSIC, THE ECO, THE MUSIC ECOSYSTEM IN THIS TOWN, JUST IN AUSTIN ALONE, THAT IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, I GET ANXIETY JUST THINKING ABOUT IT. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES. 
          THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO APPLY FOR. 
          THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT SHOWS TO GO TO. 
          THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT SHOWCASES. 
          THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT LIKE, SHOWS TO ATTEND. 
          I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, CON, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION SHOWS DIFFERENT THINGS, APPLICATIONS, GRANTS, WHATEVER, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          AND SO, FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM A LOT OF MUSICIAN, YOU KNOW, ARTISTS OUT THERE IS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT YOU END UP NOT REALLY BEING ABLE TO, TO, TO REALLY FOCUS ON ANYTHING. 
          AND THEN KIND OF LIKE, NOTHING SORT OF GETS DONE BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          THERE'S JUST, THERE'S SO MANY BALLS IN THE AIR, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS HAPPENING. 
          UM, BUT I REMEMBER THERE WAS A CONVERSATION THAT I WAS HAVING, AND IT WAS RIGHT WHEN WE WERE STARTING, WE, WE, WE, UH, STARTED THE, THE WORKING GROUP FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. 
          AND IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER MAHO THAT GAVE, I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY SOME OF THE MOST INSPIRATIONAL, UM, TALK THAT I COULD HAVE HAD. 
          AND IT WAS, I, I THINK, I THINK THIS MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS POST COVID, BUT BASICALLY THERE'S LIKE THIS SCARCITY MINDSET BEHIND, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ARTISTS AND MUSICIANS IN TOWN. 
          AND IT'S LIKE, WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE KIND OF KEEP THIS LITTLE, THIS LITTLE NO OVER HERE FOR OURSELVES, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, THEN WE'RE GONNA LOSE IT. 
          AND, UH, I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER MAHONE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY OUT HERE, THERE'S ENOUGH BREAD OUT HERE FOR EVERYBODY, AND THERE IS, AND WE JUST HAVE TO KNOW KIND OF LIKE WHERE TO LOOK AND WHAT TO DO AND, AND, 
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AND HOW TO AND HOW TO DO THAT. 
          SO I, I, I, I THINK THAT IN THAT SPIRIT, IF, IF WE COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE FIVE OR SIX NONPROFITS, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, UM, INCLUDING THE TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE, INCLUDING VISIT AUSTIN. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT IF THERE'S A WAY TO NOT NECESSARILY REINVENT THE WHEEL BY LIKE, YOU KNOW, FEEDING OUR OWN STUFF OR WHATEVER, BUT A WAY TO KIND OF FILTER THAT IN TO WHERE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD, YOU SHOULD BE DOING. 
          OR IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN AN ALBUM CYCLE, UM, THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING. 
          THIS IS HOW LONG YOU SHOULD BE. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST, I, I I THINK THAT THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT I THINK THAT IF WE COULD PROBABLY JUST SPEND A LITTLE TIME, YOU KNOW, CRAFTING A NARRATIVE ON WHAT IS IMPORTANT, UH, AND USING IT AS AN EDUCATIONAL TOOLING PIECE INSTEAD OF, NOT, NOT AN INFORMATIONAL TOOL, BUT AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE SOMEHOW, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT HOLD A LOT MORE WATER. 
          UM, AND I SAY THAT KNOWING THAT WE'RE ALL EXTREMELY BUSY, UM, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER STEERED IF WE WENT THAT KIND OF A WAY, UM, RATHER THAN JUST KIND OF RE-SHARING OR REPATRIATING SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY CIRCULATING ON THE INTERNET. 
          ALSO, UM, ANYTIME, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FACEBOOK, SOCIAL MEDIA, ALL SOCIAL MEDIA IS PAID TO PLAY. 
          SO LIKE ANYTIME THAT WE ARE LIKE POINTING TO SOMETHING AND SAYING, HEY, THIS THING IS HAPPENING, HERE'S A LINK TO IT. 
          GO TO THIS WEB, GO TO THIS WEBSITE, THIS PLACE, AND DO THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW, THE ALGORITHM'S AUTOMATICALLY GONNA DOWN RANK ANYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING THEM TO GO TO, WHICH IS GONNA MAKE IT NOT VISIBLE, WHICH IS GOING TO KIND OF NEGATE THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          SO IT'S JUST, THERE'S A WAY IN WHICH WE HAVE TO DO IT, AND WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL ABOUT IT AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR TIME IS BEING USED EFFICIENTLY AND NOT JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE DOING THIS JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT. 
          YEAH. 
          DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, YEAH. 
          I, I JUST SAY THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY THAT CERTAINLY APPEAL TO MUSICIANS AND FARMER, BUT IF WE LOOK AT WHAT THE ROLE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS, WHICH IS TO ADVISE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND PERHAPS WE CAN USE THIS AS A WAY TO HELP OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR REACH THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN, THE VOTERS OF AUSTIN, TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS DOING TO SUPPORT MUSIC AND THEREBY GET ALL THE VOTERS OF AUSTIN TO SUPPORT POLITICIANS WHO SUPPORT MUSIC AND WILL, UH, FUND MUSIC APPROPRIATELY. 
          THAT TO ME, WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD GOAL, SO THAT WE DON'T REPEAT WORK THAT IS BEING DONE BY THE ECONOMIC DIVISION OR BY, UM, AUSTIN MUSICIANS, OR VA OR VARIOUS OTHER GROUPS. 
          I, I THINK IF WE TAKE A POLITICAL APPROACH TO THIS, WE COULD REALLY HAVE A CLARITY AND UNIQUE APPROACH TO SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          RIGHT. 
          THOSE ARE GREAT POINTS. 
          Y'ALL, UM, DOES ANY, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYBODY ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? THOSE ARE GOOD APPROACHES. 
          I, I, I MEAN, THIS ISN'T REALLY SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VOTE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY JUST A DISCUSSION OF HOW WE CAN BE EFFECTIVE. 
          SO I THINK WE'VE GOT ALL GOOD, GOOD INPUT HERE, SO, COOL. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE ALL GOOD ON THAT ONE. 
          THEN WE WILL 
          [5. Discussion and possible action on musician loading, unloading, and parking.]
MOVE ON TO, UM, ITEM FIVE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSICIAN LOADING, UNLOADING, AND PARKING. 
          UH, WE'RE, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE STAFF BACK. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FROM, UH, PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION HERE TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE KIM AND I, KIM HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT. 
          UM, SO HOPEFULLY AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          BUT WHAT I DID, I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE WITH SOUTH BY COMING UP AND JUST, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF MUSICIAN LOADING AND UNLOADING DURING THOSE WEEKS. 
          I DID WANNA REITERATE, WE HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE MUSICIANS CAN LOAD AND UNLOAD USING THE APP AND IT'S, THEY JUST, INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN THE, UM, THE ZONE NUMBER THEY PUT IN, ERICA, DO YOU REMEMBER IT'S ATX 15, UM, ONE I'LL HAVE, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO. 
          IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS QUITE CONCEPTUAL OR IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING WORKED ON. 
          AND SO THAT STAFF THAT WAS WORKING ON IT HAVE BEEN OUT OF, OUT OF THE OFFICE FROM OR FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD. 
          SO OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THEM BACK MARCH 6TH FOR 
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THAT MEETING TO KIND OF GIVE US INSTRUCTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN RELAY OUT TO MUSICIANS, UH, DURING SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, OF COURSE THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, SITUATION FOR SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST IN SPRING FESTIVAL SEASON THAT IT MAY BE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, PROCESS THAN ANY OTHER TIME OF THE YEAR. 
          BUT I JUST DO WANNA REMIND EVERYONE TO GO TO ATX MUSIC.ORG, WHICH IS THE WEBSITE FOR OUR DIVISION, AND CLICK ON THE GETTING TO THE SHOW ICON. 
          AND THEN THAT WILL AS A PAGE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS AVAILABLE NOW AND YEAR ROUND THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR FOLKS TO RE-FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S EASY TO FORGET THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, SUPPORT AND OPTIONS FOR NOT ONLY PARKING, BUT FOR, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM EVEN LATE NIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, BUT WE WILL, THE GOAL IS AT MARCH 6TH, HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION FOLKS BACK HERE OKAY. 
          AND ASK, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE CAN ALSO WORK WITH THEIR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM ON, YOU KNOW, AN EASY ONE KIND OF IMAGE THAT CAN BE PUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THREE EASY STEPS FOR MUSICIANS DOING LOADING AND UNLOADING. 
          YEAH, THAT'S PERFECT. 
          UH, AND THEN WITH THAT, UH, TAGS INTO IS ONCE WE CAN REALLY GET A SENSE OF WHAT, UH, REALLY AFFORDABLE OPTIONS THERE ARE FOR UNLOADING AND UNLOADING, WE CAN REVISIT THIS DISCUSSION ON WHETHER WE NOT OR NOT, WE NEED TO, UH, INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL FEE WITH THE PERFORMANCE FEE FOR CITY PAID PERFORMANCES. 
          UH, SO WE'LL JUST JUMP BACK TO THAT. 
          SO WE'LL BE ALL SET, IT SOUNDS LIKE ON MARCH 6TH, UH, TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ITEM 
          [6. Discussion and possible action following update from Urban Core Land Use Working Group.]
SIX, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM THE URBAN CORE LAND USE WORKING GROUP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ME AGAIN. 
          SO THE URBAN CORE LAND USE GROUP HAS MET A COUPLE OF TIMES AND WE'LL THEN WE'LL BE MEETING AGAIN THIS THURSDAY AND UM, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST MEETING WHERE WE'RE IN, HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE JOINED THE GROUP. 
          SO I WAS GONNA GO THROUGH THE MEMBERSHIP REALLY QUICKLY. 
          SO FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION, THIS IS A JOINT WORKING GROUP WITH ARTS, SO, UM, AYESHA GRAY, MONICA, MAL MALDONADO, HEIDI SCHACH, UM, FROM MUSIC COMMISSION, IT'S MYSELF, UH, AND LAUREN AND CHRIS LEUN, UM, MAY OR MAY NOT BE JOINING US ON THAT. 
          UM, ALSO FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, WE HAVE MARK GILBERT, WHO HE WORKS FOR MCA PARTNERS, WHICH IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          SO HE WILL BE JOINING US, UH, MICHAEL PIANO, WHO, UH, WORKS WITH PRESIDIUM DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, UH, THAT'LL BE REALLY GREAT TO HAVE THAT REAL ESTATE, UM, BOTH FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SIDE AND THEN ALSO THE MARKET RATE SIDE OF, UM, REAL ESTATE IN AUSTIN. 
          AND THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LOT OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT ZONING AND WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND HOW TO DO OUTREACH WITH THE DEVELOPER COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND ALSO STEPHANIE STANLEY WITH CADENCE 12 THAT, UH, SHE'S AN INDEPENDENT MUSIC PROMOTER WHO IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IS PART OF THE WORK SHE DOES IS EXPLORING POSSIBILITIES OF AVAILABLE SPACE FOR EVENTS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT GROUP. 
          UM, AND SO WE KNOW THAT LAND USE IS A HUGE ISSUE THAT OCCUPIES PEOPLE DAILY IN AUSTIN. 
          AND SO WE CAN'T TACKLE EVERYTHING, OBVIOUSLY IN A WORKING GROUP WE CAN ADDRESS, UM, CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS AND CERTAIN PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS SOME, UM, SOME, UH, PARTNERSHIP IN. 
          IT MAY BE A CITY OWNED LAND. 
          IT MAY BE, UM, THAT THERE WILL BE ZONING REQUESTS OR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT IN INCLUDES CITY INVOLVEMENT. 
          SO WE ARE, UM, WE'VE KIND OF FOCUSED IN ON FOUR TOPICS FOR NOW. 
          UM, SO ONE IS THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION, AND WE'RE GONNA DIVIDE AND CONQUER ON THESE SOMEWHAT. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE, UH, LEADS FROM THE WORKING GROUP THAT ARE TACKLING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF OUR, OUR INFORMATION LIAISONS. 
          SO LAUREN GOULD, UH, WILL BE WORKING WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER FOLKS TO BRING INFORMATION TO THE WORKING GROUP, AND THEN WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW THAT DEVELOPMENT WE THINK CAN BEST BENEFIT AUSTIN AND, UH, CREATIVE WORKERS AND MUSICIANS IN PARTICULAR. 
          WHAT, WHAT COULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, THAT BASICALLY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT? UM, THAT IS REALLY MAJOR. 
          IT'S A, IT'S 
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A TREMENDOUS EXPENDITURE AND A BIG SPACE. 
          SO, UH, AND THAT'S ALREADY SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST USES THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          SO CONVENTION CENTER USAGE IS, YOU KNOW, DEEPLY ENTRENCHED WITH THE MUSIC COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD ISSUE FOR US TO HANDLE. 
          SO WE CAN'T, WE REALIZE THAT WE CAN'T GET TWO AND THEN WEEDS WITH EVERY DETAIL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS, BUT WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A SET OF, OF, OF, NOT OVERLY BROAD, BUT UM, SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE, WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER PLANNING TEAM. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR ISSUES. 
          UM, I 35 EXPANSION IS GONNA BE CREATING SOME SPACES IN THE, BECAUSE OF THE CAPTAIN STITCH PROGRAM THAT'S PLANNED, UM, THERE ARE IS ALREADY AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT'S WORKING ON THAT, AND HEIDI SCHALK FROM ARTS COMMISSION, WHO'S ALSO A MEMBER OF THIS WORKING GROUP, IS PART OF THAT ADVISORY BOARD. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS SHE, SHE BRINGS US INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE IN THE PLANNING STAGE, UH, WE CAN MAKE RES RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UH, SHE'LL DO THAT AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS GREAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIAISON ALREADY TO THAT PLANNING TEAM AND UH, SO WE'LL JUST THINK ABOUT, ABOUT HOW THOSE SPACES CAN BE BEST USED, UH, FOR THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF ONLINE ABOUT THE CAP AND PROPOSED CAP AND STITCH, SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, BUT BASICALLY THERE WILL BE SOME POSSIBLE PRIVATE AND COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL LAND THAT'S LOST BECAUSE OF THE EXPANSION, BUT THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES GOING, UH, OVER I 35. 
          AND SO IT'S A LOT OF SPACE TO THINK ABOUT HOW IT CAN BE USED. 
          UM, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON. 
          UM, AND CHARLOTTE, CAN I HAVE A QUE I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL SPACE NOW WE'VE STILL NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET OUR AGENT OF CHANGE, UH, LEGISLATION PASSED MM-HMM. 
          , UH, BUT THAT, SO ALL THE MORE THAT REMAINS AN ISSUE THAT IF STUFF GETS ZONED RESIDENTIAL, THEN BOOM, IT GETS OFF THE LIST OF POSSIBLE LIVE MUSIC MM-HMM. 
          . 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, WOULD THERE BE ANY WAY TO MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS NEW LAND THAT GETS CREATED, THIS, THIS NEW LAND THAT IS NOW AVAILABLE TO USE? WOULD THERE BE ANY WAY TO PUT IN REQUESTS THAT IT BE DESIGNATED, UH, INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL BUT NOT RESIDENTIAL FOR THE PURPOSE? MM-HMM. 
           OF, UH, IN THE FUTURE GIVING A PLACE FOR MUSIC TO BE? YEAH. 
          SO I DON'T, THAT'S A GR YES, I THINK SO. 
          AND I, I THINK THAT HOW THAT LAND IS GONNA BE ZONED IS A GREAT QUESTION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S CONSIDERATION FOR THAT TO BE HOUSING AT ALL. 
          I DOUBT THAT IT WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. 
          SO I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SOUND REGULATION HAS TO DO WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. 
          I MEAN, IN AUSTIN, YEAH. 
          EVERY PLACE IS NOW GETTING, UH, FILLED UP WITH YEAH. 
          UH, WITH RESIDENTIAL OFTEN, OFTEN THESE, UM, WHAT DO THEY CALL THESE MIXED, MIXED USE, YOU KNOW, THESE FIVE STORY BUILDINGS, RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THEN MM-HMM. 
          , FOUR FLOORS OF, UM, FOUR FLOORS OF RESIDENTIAL AND BOOM, WE'RE LOCKED OUT OF ALL THOSE SPACES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'LL BRING THAT UP IN THE MEETING ON THURSDAY, UH, AND I'LL MENTION THAT TO HEIDI AND SHE CAN TAKE THAT BACK TO THE ADVISORY BOARD THAT SHE'S WORKING WITH. 
          I DON'T THINK THINGS CAN BE VERY TALL ON THOSE CAPS IS MY UNDERSTANDING, CUZ THERE'S A HIGHWAY UNDER IT, YOU KNOW? UM, SO THERE'S A BIG HOLLOW SPACE , YOU KNOW, UNDERNEATH. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT WON'T BE LIKE HIGH RISE TOWERS GOING UP THERE, BUT YEAH. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          I MEAN THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT THAT HOW CAN THERE BE CONSIDERATION FOR MUSIC BUSINESS RELATED SPACES ON, ON THOSE CAPS. 
          UM, AND AT THE SAME TIME THERE MAY BE ISSUES. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T, I, THERE IT'S A PRETTY LONG LIST OF BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE, THAT COULD BE DEMOLISHED WITH THE EXPANSION. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME OPTIONS ABOUT HOW WIDE IT'S GONNA BE, SO WE'LL TAKE THOSE UP ALSO. 
          UM, BUT YOUR QUESTION OREN, BRINGS UP ANOTHER POSSIBLE THING THAT WE MAY CONSIDER IN THIS WORKING GROUP, WHICH IS ZONING AND, UM, ZONING. 
          YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE, THE CITY HASN'T PASSED A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          THINGS HAVE PROCEEDED IN A SOMEWHAT PIECE MILLED FASHION. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ON THE TABLE IS SPECIFIC ZONING FOR A LIVE MUSIC VENUE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE FROM A NIGHTCLUB OR A LOUNGE ZONING AND THAT, UM, IT 
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MAY BE HAVE A, A SPECIAL BEING IN ITS OWN ZONING CATEGORY, UH, MAY BE HELPFUL WITH SOME OF THE SOUND REGULATION. 
          UM, I'M A LITTLE VAGUE ON HOW THAT WOULD WORK EXACTLY. 
          AND THAT'S A, A QUESTION FOR PROBABLY BRIAN BLOCK AT THE CITY. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, SO THAT, THAT MAY, THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW I THINK REBECCA REYNOLDS AND THE COMMUNITY HAD WORKED ON HOW THAT THAT ZONING COULD COME TOGETHER. 
          SO, UM, BUT IT'S, SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT COMES FORTH AT COUNCIL AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY WOULD BE, UH, A TOPIC FOR THE, THE LAND USE GROUP. 
          UM, SO, UH, YEAH, SO THAT'S CONVENTION CENTER I 35 SIXTH STREET REDEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, I'M TRYING TO PICK THE CONVERSATION BACK UP WITH CAITLIN RYAN OF STREAM REALTY TO GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT THE PLANS ARE THERE. 
          UM, SO I'M HOPING TO TALK TO HER REALLY SOON OR HAVE HER, YOU KNOW, COME TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS SO SHE CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE WITH, UM, WITH THE ELECTIONS AND COUNCIL OFFICES CHANGING. 
          AND THERE WAS A HISTORIC OVERLAY DISCUSSION. 
          I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THINGS LANDED IN TERMS OF POSSIBILITIES FOR WHAT, UM, THE EXTENTS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT THERE. 
          SO, UH, I, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, UM, SOME I'M HOPING TO HEAR FROM HER SOON. 
          UM, AND THEN THE FOURTH, UM, THING THAT WE WOULD TAKE UP IS, UM, THE VERTICAL MIXED USE THAT I REFERRED TO EARLIER. 
          UH, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE TIMOTHY BRAY FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VELOS OFFICE IN THE MEETING ON THURSDAY. 
          UH, IT, HE, HE WANTS TO ATTEND IT, JUST COUNCIL MEETINGS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO HE MAY BE PULLED IN TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, BUT, UM, THEY'RE EAGER TO GET OUR SUPPORT FOR THAT AND TRY TO PROBLEM SOLVE HOW THAT, THAT COULD WORK. 
          AND THEY'RE, UM, THE WHOLE, THE CULTURAL TRUST, UM, THE BOND THAT WAS PASSED A WHILE BACK IN 2018, LIKE ALL OF THAT WAS REALLY ABOUT TRYING TO FIND AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE. 
          SO THIS COULD BE A POSSIBLE GREAT SOLUTION, UM, AND, AND PROVIDE SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL SPACE. 
          AND, YEAH, SO LAUREN, DID I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT? WAS THERE LIKE A FIFTH THING THAT I'M FORGETTING?  , NO. 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          I REMEMBERED IT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES IT, DOES ANYBODY FROM THE, ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WORK THAT THAT GROUP'S DOING? BASIC I DO. 
          YEAH. 
          GO AHEAD, SCOTT. 
          UH, IT, DOES THIS INCLUDE, UH, SIX SQUARE AT ALL? YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T, OR IS JUST CONVENTIONS OF YOUR STUFF? UH, WELL, SO SIX SQUARE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TAKING UP, I FEEL, AND HERE'S WHY. 
          LIKE, I DO FEEL LIKE THE, THE 11TH STREET REDEVELOPMENT, OR 12TH, OH GOSH, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, AND SIX SQUARE HAS BEEN, UM, A CULTURAL ARTS ISSUE AND IT IS A MUSIC ISSUE ALSO. 
          I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY CUZ THERE'S KENNY DORMS OUT BACKYARD IS RIGHT THERE, BUT IT'S LIKE IT THAT'S GOING, LIKE, THAT STUFF SEEMS TO BE PROCEEDING WELL WITH. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IT UP AS A WORKING GROUP AND, AND TRY TO PROBLEM SOLVE ANYTHING OR MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, UM, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE JUST ASKED. 
          I THINK THAT, I THINK MAYBE, AND IF SOMEBODY IN ON THE COMMISSION OR CITY STAFF KNOWS MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT, UM, THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND THAT, THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE A POSSIBLE, LIKE SOME HOT FUNDING OR ZINC MAY GO TO THEM. 
          DOES ANYBODY KNOW, LIKE SHAKKA, DO YOU, I FEEL LIKE YOU, YOU SAT UP WHEN I BROUGHT THAT UP. 
          DO YOU KNOW HOW ANY OF THAT'S PROCEEDING WITH LIKE HAROLD MCMILLAN'S PLANS AND SO ON? YEAH, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I, I HAVEN'T, UH, SPOKEN TO HIM ABOUT THAT IN A WHILE, BUT, UH, THINGS ARE, THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD AS, AS THEY, UH, CAN AT THEIR FACE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M HAPPY TO, AND AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP, SCOTT, CUZ IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE COMMISSION A WHILE BACK, THAT WE DEFINITELY WANNA SUPPORT THOSE PROJECTS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN REACH OUT TO HAROLD AND PAM OWENS AND, UH, HAROLD MCMILLAN AND PAM OWENS AND JUST SEE, HEY, DO YOU, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM MUSIC COMMISSION? BECAUSE WE HAVE A GROUP FOR THIS, SO I I CAN SAY WE HAVE A TROUBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, UM, PAT AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS, MYSELF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALL MET WITH, UM, HAROLD MCMILLAN. 
          WE MET WITH, UM, UM, THE MILLENNIUM AND MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, BASICALLY WE, IT WAS, THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT, UM, WHAT WE NEEDED. 
          SO AUSTIN TEXTING MUSICIANS IS BEGINNING TO DO A LOT OF THAT WORK, UM, OR AT LEAST, YOU 
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KNOW, BE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS, UM, UH, IN, INTO THIS YEAR. 
          AND WHAT WE GOT WAS, UM, AN UPDATE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. 
          UM, AND THE NEWS, UM, WAS LESS THAN PLEASING TO SAY THE LEAST. 
          UM, SO THE, AND AND, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, UM, UH, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH PLANS ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH KENNY DORMS, UM, AND, AND, AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          AND, AND THEY, AND THEY HAVE, THEY'VE, HAROLD MCMILLAN'S PLAN IS HAROLD MCMILLAN'S PLAN, BUT IT IS, UM, IT'S LITERALLY A SHELL OF HIS PLAN, UM, FROM WHAT I'M, FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. 
          AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO CLARIFY, UM, PLANS FOR, UM, WHAT THEY HAVE IN TERMS OF THEIR PLANS FOR CANADIAN DURHAMS AND TO HEAR FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ABOUT THAT STUFF. 
          AND IF I'M BEING VAGUE, I CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC. 
          THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION AND I APOLOGIZE. 
          OH, UM, LEMME TURN MY MIC BACK ON. 
          SO, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU CAN FILL US IN NOW IF YOU WANNA COME TO THE WORKING GROUP MEETING AND FILL THAT GROUP IN IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S BETTER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE CAN, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE REALLY GET DONE IN THE DETAILS AND THOSE MEETINGS, WE'LL BE REPORTING BACK, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE BRINGING SUMMARIES BACK TO THE COMMISSION. 
          SO IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S THE BEST PLACE, THEN YEAH, I'LL SEND YOU, I'LL SEND YOU THE MEETING LINK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JOIN US. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP, SCOTT. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          NO AGENDA ITEM OR ANYTHING. 
          I'LL JUST DO THE WORKING GROUPING. 
          WE'LL TALK THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          PERFECT. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          UM, AND I EXPECT THIS GROUP, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE A STANDING GROUP FOR A LONG TIME. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S ISSUE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS MAY ROLL ON AND OFF AND, BUT I, I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO BE IN PLACE FOR A WHILE AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVEN MIGHT NEED IT AT SOME POINT TO LOOK AT IT, GETTING COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR MAKING IT LIKE AN OFFICIAL SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION. 
          THAT'S AN WHOLE OTHER PROCESS. 
          UM, BUT IT'S JUST, THERE'S ALWAYS, I MEAN, IF IT WASN'T THESE, THESE FOUR OR FIVE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, WE COULD PROBABLY PICK FOUR OR FIVE OTHER THINGS THAT WE, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON. 
          SO, UM, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE LAND USE ISSUES AND A GROWING CITY LIKE THIS, UM, THAT ARE AFFECTING MUSIC IS A, YOU KNOW, SINCE MUSIC IS OUR MAJOR INDUSTRY HERE, THAT THE LAND USE IN THE INDUSTRY WILL BE CONSISTENTLY INTERTWINED. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          WE'RE ON OUR LAST 
          [7. Discussion and possible action following presentation by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department, on Live Music Fund budget numbers and program administration.]
AGENDA ITEM, Y'ALL, BUT IT'S A BIG ONE. 
          UM, SO LIVE MUSIC FUND, UM, WELL, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT, IT'D BE LENGTHY, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BIG CUZ IT'S LIVE MUSIC, FUN. 
          SO DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY ERICA SHAMLEY, UM, ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND BUDGET AND, UH, THE PLANS FOR THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          HELLO EVERYBODY AGAIN. 
          ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER. 
          SO WHAT I'VE SHARED WITH YOU HERE IS THE RCA, THE REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION THAT WAS POSTED LAST FRIDAY AROUND THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CULTURAL FUNDING GRANT PROGRAMS. AND SO I JUST KIND OF, THIS KIND OF LAYS OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WITH THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A FIVE YEAR AUTHORIZATION OF UP TO 100 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE FUNDED BY THE HOT TAX AND WITH AROUND JUST BELOW 5% FOR ADMIN FEES, WHICH IS THE 4 MILLION, LET ME GET TO THE RIGHT ONE. 
          THAT IS THE $4,475,000, THAT WOULD BE THE 5% FEE FOR THAT 100 MILLION JUST BELOW 5% FEE FOR THAT 100 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS. 
          SO THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THAT, THAT'S A GENERAL AUTHORIZATION AND YOU SEE THAT 20 MILLION A YEAR, WHICH IS LIKE YOUR BASIC AUTHORIZATION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR COUNCIL FOR THE THIRD PARTY TO DO THEIR WORK FOR, YOU KNOW, OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD. 
          BUT WHAT WE'LL DO IS, JUST LIKE WE DID THIS YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, 
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LOOK AT THE, THE FISCAL NOTE FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF 38,000,484. 
          3 32 IS AVAILABLE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. AND THAT IS BASED ON HOT COLLECTIONS AND WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, IN FACT, THERE WILL BE A FEW AMENDMENTS ALSO HAPPENING ON THURSDAY. 
          YOU KNOW, BUMPING UP OUR INITIAL BUDGET, UH, REQUE, OUR, OUR BUDGET ALLOCATIONS THAT WERE APPROVED LAST JULY, AUGUST MM-HMM. 
           FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 TO BUMP THAT UP BECAUSE OUR, UM, COLLECTIONS CAME IN HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          SO SPECIFICALLY FOR OUT OF THAT 38 MILLION, WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM IS A AMENDMENT RAISING, UH, FROM 41, UH, 4 MILLION, 100 MILLION, $4,100,000 UP TO, UM, $525,000. 
          WE'RE GONNA BUMP IT UP BY THAT MUCH SO THAT WE HAVE $4,100,000, SORRY, THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS. 
          SO THAT WHAT THAT WILL BASICALLY BE IS FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, 3 0.5 MILLION FOR AWARDS, WE BUDGETED $500,000 FOR ADMIN FEE, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S WAY MORE THAN WE'LL LIKELY NEED. 
          AND THEN THE $100,000 IS THAT VISIT AUSTIN SPEND THAT WE'LL DO ON MUSICIANS AND VENUES. 
          THEN THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING SPEND, THAT DIGITAL CAMPAIGN THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR. 
          AND OMAR WAS HERE A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, GIVING YOU REPORTS OF THE FISCAL 22 SPEND. 
          SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS IF WE WORK WITH THE LONG CENTER AS OUR THIRD PARTY, AND WE FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST AN AUTHORIZATION, EVEN THAT BIG $38 MILLION FEE FOR, I MEAN, $38 MILLION BUDGET ITEM FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, IF IT IS THAT WE NEED LESS MONEY FOR ADMIN FEE AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DEDICATE MORE OF THAT MONEY TO GRANTS, WE WILL DO THAT. 
          BUT FOR NOW, WE'RE GONNA START WITH A 3.5 WITH A WIGGLE ROOM ADMIN FEE OF 500,000. 
          SO THAT, BUT I'M, MY ASSUMPTION IS, IS THAT WE WILL KEEP THAT ADMIN FEE WELL BELOW THAT MORE AROUND THAT 5% AMOUNT MM-HMM. 
           SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO FUND MORE GRANTS. 
          BUT WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE KIND OF GET IN THE WEEDS WITH THE LONG CENTER ONCE THEIR CONTRACT IS EXECUTED. 
          UH, AFTER THE RCA IS APPROVED ON THURSDAY, NEXT STEP WE'LL BE, UH, EXECUTING THE CONTRACT WITH THE LONG CENTER, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESSES THAT WE NEED TO GET, UH, GO THROUGH SO THAT WE CAN LAUNCH THE APPLICATION IN APRIL. 
          AND THEN WE'LL JUST DO THE HEALTHY CLIP OF GETTING THROUGH THE APPLICATION, SEE HOW THE EVALUATION AND THE SCORING IS GOING AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE LONG CENTER ON IF THAT FEE IS NOT ENOUGH OR WAY WAYS TOO MUCH, AND SO THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AS GRANTS MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THAT JUST GIVES US FLEXIBILITY AND AS WE WORK WITH THE LONG CENTER, WE'LL HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITH THEM TO, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THAT FEE OVER FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS THE 4,000,800, YOU KNOW, $50,000. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, WE CAN EVERY YEAR RE-LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, THAT'S NOT QUITE ENOUGH. 
          WE MAY NEED 7% OR 8% BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS, AND THIS. 
          AND SO WE CAN AUTHORIZE THAT AND GO BACK TO COUNCIL AND GET THAT AUTHORIZATION APPROVED. 
          OR IF IT'S LESS, WE JUST DON'T USE IT. 
          IT'S JUST AN AUTHORIZATION. 
          JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AUTHORIZED AUTHORIZATION DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE TO SPEND ALL OF THAT MONEY. 
          IT'S JUST SO THAT IT, IT'S A PLACE TO START. 
          SO THIS WILL BE THE SAME THING FOR WHETHER IT'S CULTURAL ARTS OR HERITAGE PRESERVATION. 
          WE CAN A, YOU KNOW, WE CAN USE ALL OF THAT MONEY WITH THE LONG CENTER AND, AND WORK WITH THEM TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK OR SOME OF THIS WORK WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE. 
          AND WE JUST DON'T SPEND THAT MONEY WITH THE LONG CENTER AND IT'S MONEY THAT STAYS WITHIN THE FUND WITH THE CITY. 
          SO THIS CONTRACT IS BASICALLY GIVING US THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE NEED FOR FIVE YEARS TO, UH, HAVE THE ADMIN FEE IN PLACE TO WORK WITH THE LONG CENTER TO DO ALL OF THIS WORK WITH US. 
          AND THEN, BUT KNOWING THAT EVERY SINGLE YEAR WE GO BACK BASED ON WHAT THE COLLECTIONS ARE AND WE CAN BUMP THAT UP, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF GRANTS BECAUSE MORE COLLECTIONS CAME IN THAN WE ANTICIPATED. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT 20 MILLION IS FLAT YEAR OVER YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S JUST TO BE CONSERVATIVE AND HAVE GOOD DUE DILIGENCE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE. 
          BUT VERY LIKELY IT COULD COME, YOU KNOW, OVER THAT BECAUSE WE GET MORE COLLECTIONS. 
          AND SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE TRY TO KEEP STILL A GOOD, HEALTHY, UM, BALANCE IN THE ACCOUNT SO THAT WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN TO ZERO EVERY YEAR IN CASE THERE'S ANOTHER CATASTROPHE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX GOES DOWN. 
          AGAIN, WE DON'T WANNA BE DOWN TO ZERO. 
          WE WANNA HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, GOOD BUFFER 
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IN THE ACCOUNT. 
          AND SO THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR US JUST TO KIND OF HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE WITH THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE NEED FOR THE ACTUAL GRANT AWARDS AND THE FUNDING THAT WE NEED FOR THE ACTUAL ADMIN FEE. 
          AND THEN JUST WORK VERY DILIGENTLY WITH THE LONG CENTER ON KIND OF DRAWING DOWN FROM THAT AUTHORIZATION. 
          WE ANTICIPATE FOR LIVE MUSIC FUN EVENT PROGRAM THAT WE WON'T NEED $500,000 THIS YEAR FOR ADMIN FEES. 
          THAT WAS VERY CONSERVATIVE JUST TO COVER ALL OF OUR BASES. 
          UH, WE DO ANTICIPATE IT COULD BE AROUND THAT 5% NUMBER AS WE ARE SIMPLIFYING OUR PROCESSES, GETTING INTO PORTAL AND MAKING MORE AND MORE STREAMLINED, UH, FIXES TO THE SYSTEM. 
          SO IT'S VERY, UH, YOU KNOW, GOES VERY SMOOTHLY. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF STREAMLINING, A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WHERE WE'RE BOTH IN THE SAME SYSTEM WORKING WITH EACH OTHER. 
          SO THIS IS THE RCA TO KIND OF GET US THERE. 
          AND WE'RE, AFTER ALL THIS TIME, WE'RE FINALLY THERE. 
          AND SO VERY EXCITED FOR THAT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AROUND THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM. 
          SO WHAT'S THE, UH, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE THE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT WITH YOU, UH, IT'S FINE. 
          UH, BUT DO, IS IT HANDY THAT SPREADSHEET THAT SHOWS THE, THE CURRENT BALANCE? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT OKAY. 
          ON ME RIGHT NOW. 
          DO YOU KNOW, SO HOW CAN YOU TELL US THOUGH, LIKE HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW? ? BECAUSE I, I THINK IT, LIKE, AS OF THIS SUMMER, UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO IT WAS LIKE OVER 6 MILLION, RIGHT? AND THAT WAS ALLOCATIONS, I THINK UP THROUGH OCTOBER. 
          AND SO WE WERE JUST WAITING ON THE MOST RECENT COLLECTIONS. 
          AND SO AT THE NEXT, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING, WE CAN GIVE YOU UPDATED NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, TO CLOSE OUT LAST YEAR. 
          SO WE REALLY CAN GIVE YOU KIND OF A VERY SPECIFIC NUMBER THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE FUND RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH TO DO WHAT WE WANNA DO FOR FY 23 AND TO LEAVE A BALANCE THERE TO BE CONSERVATIVE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING ALL THE MONEY AT ONCE MM-HMM. 
           THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE ARE SAVING THAT MONEY TOO FOR THE FUTURE. 
          UM, AND BUILDING UP A GOOD NEST EGG ON TOP OF HAVING THE GRANTS IN PLACE. 
          AND KEEP IN MIND FOR F FISCAL YEAR 24, WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING VENUES. 
          MM-HMM. 
           ANOTHER PROGRAM BESIDES THE LIVE MUSIC EVENT PROGRAM. 
          IT COULD BE THAT WE ADD VENUES TO THAT PROGRAM AND WE EXPAND THE BUDGET, OR THERE'S ANOTHER PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY GEARED TOWARDS VENUES. 
          AND SO WE'RE STARTING THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THEM, UH, AT OUR NEXT VENUE SUMMIT. 
          WE'RE WORKING, UH, ON THAT, THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW IN A SURVEY THAT WILL LEAD TO A VENUE SUMMIT, UH, HERE IN THE NEXT SIX WEEKS OR SO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. 
          UM, SO YEAH, SO IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN BUILDING UP THIS FUND FOR A LONG TIME, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DIS DISPERSE THE FUNDS. 
          THERE'S A PRETTY HEALTHY BANK BALANCE, BUT THE OTHER GREAT PART OF IT IS THAT, UM, HIGH COLLECTIONS HAVE BEEN HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED. 
          SO THAT IS REALLY GOOD NEWS. 
          THERE'S BEEN A GOOD BOUNCE BACK, UM, FROM THE PANDEMIC MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UM, I GUESS IT WOULD, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE AT THE NEXT MEETING, I WANNA GET BACK TO THE LONG CENTER DISCUSSION IN A MM-HMM. 
           IN A SEC. 
          AND IT'S GOOD NEWS ON THE FEE SEEMS REASONABLE. 
          UM, BUT, UH, ONE THING IF YOU COULD GO, COULD YOU EMAIL ME THE LATEST SPREADSHEET OR MM-HMM. 
          , COULD THAT GO OUT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS SO WE CAN TAKE A PEEK AT THAT? UM, THE, IT SHOULD BE IN BACKUP FROM WHEN WE LAST PRESENTED IT. 
          SO ON THE WEBSITE THAT MEANS A COMMISSION WEBSITE. 
          YEAH. 
          IF THERE'S A MORE CURRENT, EVEN THERE MAY BE A MORE CURRENT VERSION. 
          CUZ I THINK THE LAST PRESENTATION WE SAW WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE COULD JUST, WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU. 
          IF Y'ALL COULD POP THAT IN THE EMAIL, THAT'D BE AWESOME. 
          JUST SO WE REALLY KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE STANDING ON MONEY. 
          UM, AND IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD TO HAVE A SENSE OF LIKE, WHAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH. 
          I MEAN, I THINK WE DID ALL, I, I KNOW WITH CULTURAL ARTS THERE WAS A LESSON LEARNED ABOUT NOT SPENDING EVERYTHING, UH, DOWN, UM, AND NOT HAVING A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT OF A, A RAINY DAY, UM, BUCKET LEFT. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I, I DON'T WANT US TO BE OVERLY CONSERVATIVE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOT COLLECTIONS ARE, I MEAN, A HOTEL ROOM AT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE AT THE FOUR SEASONS, LIKE $800 A NIGHT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE MONEY'S COMING IN. 
          SO, UH, UH, I I THINK IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE INITIAL PART OF THE, THE PROGRAM WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS AND, UM, MUSICIANS, THEN WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH FUNDING THERE. 
          BUT ONCE WE EXPAND IT TO VENUES, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, THERE WILL BE A GREATER NEED FOR FUNDING. 
          AND SO THAT, UM, WE'RE IN FISCAL YEAR 23 RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FISCAL YEAR 24, THAT'S ACTUALLY WOULD BE STARTING IN THE FALL. 
          SO 
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IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY SOON. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO WE NEED TO BE THINKING AND IT'S, YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT IT AND SO I, AND I HOPE, UM, WITH THE, THE APPLICATION PORTAL THAT THAT'S EASILY, UM, IT'S EASY TO INCLUDE VENUES WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO APPLY IT WOULD BE. 
          YES. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANNA KEEP THAT, THAT WHOLE PIPELINE THAT WE WANT THAT TO BE A SMOOTH PROCESS RIGHT. 
          FOR, FOR THE VENUES TO JUMP IN AND AFTER. 
          BUT IT WILL BE GREAT TO SEE HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS WITH THE MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, SO YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          AND KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AMENDMENT GOING FORWARD FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND ON THURSDAY, SEPARATE FROM THE RCA AROUND THE THIRD PARTY, IT'S A $4.1 MILLION AUTHORIZATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 23. 
          MM-HMM. 
           TAKE AWAY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE VISIT AUSTIN SPEND MM-HMM. 
          , WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND DOES, UH MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, DRIVE ENGAGEMENT BACK TO TICKETS AND, AND MERCH. 
          THE, AND THAT'S $4 MILLION. 
          SO IF WE START WITH A $3.5 MILLION GRANT BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T SAY THAT WE'RE ONLY TAKING IN APPLICATIONS UP TO 3.5 MILLION. 
          WE ASSUME THAT WE'LL BE OVER-PRESCRIBED LIKE WE ALWAYS ARE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE PROCESS AND I CAN SEE KIND OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE WITH A LONG CENTER IN TERMS OF ADMIN FEE AND THEN THAT, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS LEFT IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, WE CAN USE THAT TO JUST KEEP GOING DOWN THE LIST TO FUND OKAY. 
          ADDITIONAL GRANTEES, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID WITH THE AWESOME MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR IF THE MONEY BECAME AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T USE THIS MONEY IN THE LIVE MUSIC MENU PRESERVATION FUND, AND SO WE TRANSFERRED IT OVER TO AWESOME MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF. 
          WE DID THAT SO THAT WE COULD GET AS MUCH GRANT MONEY THAT WAS AUTHORIZED OUT AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THE SAME HERE ONCE WE SEE, OKAY, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT OUR ADMIN FEE'S GONNA COME IN AROUND HERE. 
          THAT FREES UP, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS HOW MUCH WE COULD BE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR EVEN $50,000 THAT'S 50, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE FIVE MORE MUSICIANS, YOU KNOW, THAT GET $10,000. 
          AND SO WE CERTAINLY WOULD DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY GONNA BE IN A QUEUE OF ELIGIBLE AND SCORED. 
          AND SO JUST LIKE WITH AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF, WE, WE SEE WHERE WE ARE AFTER 3.5, SEE HOW MUCH MONEY'S LEFT MM-HMM. 
          , AND THEN WE CAN FUND ADDITIONAL. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED BECAUSE THIS IS THE CHANGE HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, FROM THREE POINT, I THINK WE'RE ADDING FIVE, LIKE $525,000 FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED AT THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, $4 MILLION TO PLAY WITH AND THEN THAT WILL GO UP. 
          YEAH. 
          NEXT YEAR. 
          DO YOU NEED, SO IS COUNCIL, BECAUSE I KNOW THE INITIAL, UM, YOU KNOW WHAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL A WHILE BACK, NOW IT WAS LIKE 2.3 MILLION. 
          SO WILL THE 4.1 NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL AGAIN THAT'S GOING ON THURSDAY. 
          OH, THAT'S PART OF THIS? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ACTUALLY THE 2.3 WAS TWO YEARS AGO UHHUH, UH, WE GOT, UM, 4.1 MINUS 5 25. 
          WHOEVER CAN DO MATH REALLY FAST, I CAN'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FIGURE IT OUT, BUT THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED SUMMER 2022 FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 WAS 4.1 MINUS 5 25. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WE LOOKED AT COLLECTIONS, THEY WERE LIKE, OKAY, THIS AMENDMENT'S GONNA BE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 5 25 BECAUSE WE COULD BE VERY COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, AND SO THAT GIVES US, LIKE I SAID, THAT $4.1 MILLION BUDGET MINUS 100 K FOR VISIT AUSTIN. 
          SO $4 MILLION AND THEN I'M VERY SO IS THAT A SEPARATE ITEM THAN ITEM 14? OR IS THAT ALL, IT JUST ALL IS BUNDLED TOGETHER IS ITEM NUMBER IS BECAUSE 14 IS THE RCA FOR THE LAUNCH. 
          14 IS THE RCA FOR THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          MM-HMM. 
           FOR THAT CONTRACT. 
          UH, THIS IS AGENDA ITEM FOR NUMBER FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          OR JUST THE AMENDMENT TOWARDS THE LIVE MUSIC FUND TO ADD ADDITIONAL MONEY. 
          IS IT, UM, SO MY, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS DO YOU NEED US TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT THE 4.1? DOES, SHOULD MUSIC COMMISSION DO THAT OR IS IT GOING ON KISS CONSENT? I MEAN, I THINK WE COULD, I THINK THAT'S AN EASY VOTE ACTUALLY. 
          SO WE COULD JUST DO THAT. 
          I FEEL LIKE, DOES ANYBODY WANNA SPEND LESS MONEY ON MUSIC ? UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE A THOUGHT ABOUT IT? WE'RE STILL BEING CONSERVATIVE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS A EASY BET THAT, UH, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AND IT DOES ALSO, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THE FISCAL 24 IS COMING BARRELING TOWARDS US OCTOBER 1ST. 
          SO THE GOAL WILL BE TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BANK TO REALLY EXPAND THE PROGRAM, TO TRY TO KEEP THIS BUDGET INTACT AND ADD ADDITIONAL BUDGET FOR VENUES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, BUT LEAVING SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THE BANK EVEN AFTER THAT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, SO THAT WE'RE ALWAYS, UM, HAVING A, A, A GOOD CUSHION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I DON'T REALLY, I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT. 
          I MEAN THAT DOES SEEM LIKE THAT'S A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. 
          THE INCREASE, 
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I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF A COUNCIL MEMBER PULLED IT. 
          BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THAT MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. 
          SO I WILL, I WILL POINT OUT THAT OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM, DAVID GRAY, SONOVA HOLT RA, HAS BEEN MAKING THE ROUNDS WITH COUNCIL AND WITH MAYOR MM-HMM. 
           TO EDUCATE THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE FUNDS, BUT ALSO AROUND THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          AND THAT RC THAT REQUEST FOR COUNSEL ACTION, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 14 MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND SO BEEN FIELDING ALL THE QUESTIONS, ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY HAVE TUNE INTO WORK SESSION TOMORROW TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          UH, BUT SO FAR WE'RE FEELING LIKE THAT WE'RE ANSWERING, UH, ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE GET TO THEIR SATISFACTION. 
          UM, WELL, I THINK I WOULD, UM, I, AND I FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT ACTUALLY IN THE WORK THAT SUNOVA AND DAVID HAVE BEEN DOING. 
          UM, I, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, I DO THINK I WOULD LIKE TO, TO PUT, YOU KNOW, THIS RECOMMENDATION IN FRONT OF THEM AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT WE'RE THERE TO ADVISE THEM IS WHERE I WAS POINTING OUT EARLIER. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE DO. 
          SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, AN INCREASE IN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND DISBURSEMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 TO, UM, $4.1 MILLION SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DOES ANY, ANY DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO CAN WE GO AHEAD AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION? SO ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO, UM, I KNOW I NEED TO GET THAT, SO I'LL GET THAT PAPERWORK DONE REALLY FAST, KIM, CUZ I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S GOTTA GO INTO BACKUP AND LIKE BY WEDNESDAY. 
          SO I'LL WORK ON IT TOMORROW. 
          UM, OKAY THEN. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          OR, AND IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HURT FOR EACH OF US JUST TO SEND A QUICK NOTE TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS VOTE AS WELL. 
          UM, YEAH, DON'T EVER BE SHY ABOUT, UH, SENDING THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTES TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND STAFF, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE FOR. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT POINT, WARREN. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO CIRCLING BACK TO THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATION PART OF, UH, THIS THE LONG CENTER, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT CONTRACT OR HOW THAT COULD PROCEED? CUZ I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT LAST TIME. 
          SO ONE THING THAT WE KNOW NOW IS THAT THE FEE IS AN NOT, NOT TO EXCEED FOUR POINT AROUND 4.75 MILLION. 
          AND SO THAT WITH A AND OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS, AND THEY'RE ADMINISTERING NOT TO EXCEED A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN GRANTS. 
          SO IT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE LESS THAN 5%. 
          SO I, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MULTIPLE PARTIES AT THE CITY IS THAT THAT IS A VERY GOOD DEAL. 
          UM, THAT'S A GOOD RATE. 
          UM, SO, AND I GUESS IT MAY, THE ACTUAL PERCENTAGE MAY FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH GRANTS ARE ACTUALLY DISPERSED, BUT THERE IS A, IT IS CAPPED. 
          SO I THINK THE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE, THE FINANCIAL EFFICIENCY THAT HAS BEEN ANSWERED, UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION. 
          SO WHAT THE RCA DOES NOT ANSWER IS A QUESTION OF, OF TIMELINE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS THAT THAT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, ED D IS PREPARED. 
          LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT THE APPLICATION PORTAL WILL OPEN IN THE SPRING FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. 
          UM, THE LONG CENTER IS ADMINISTERING TWO OTHER GRANTS. 
          ONE IS THE ELEVATE GRANT FROM CULTURAL ARTS AND THEN ALSO A HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT. 
          NO. 
          OH. 
          THEY'LL JUST DO SOME ADDITIONAL WORK WITH HERITAGE PRESERVATION, BUT THE LIFT FOR EACH PROGRAM IS VERY DIFFERENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM. 
          AND SO HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT, THEY WOULD ASSIST WITH JUST SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENTS THAT OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S JUST A SMALL, LIKE SMALLER, A SMALLER JOB. 
          YEAH, A SMALLER PART. 
          AND SO FOR LIVE MUSIC, FUN AND ELEVATE, IT'S MORE OF A TURNKEY EVERYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE'LL WORK WITH THE LONG CENTER TO ENSURE THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT OVERLOADING TO PROGRAMS AT THE SAME TIME. 
          YOU KNOW, CUZ WE REALLY ARE JUST, THIS IS GONNA BE OUR FIRST TIME OUT OF THE GATE WITH THEM TO DO THIS WORK. 
          AND SO WE'LL JUST SEE HOW IT GOES. 
          AND IT COULD BE THAT IT'S RELATIVELY, YOU KNOW, NOT SO BAD AS, AS WE GO ON, AS IN, AS WE GO INTO YEAR TWO OF THE FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE CAN ROLL THIS OUT, HOW QUICKLY IT COULD GO. 
          BUT FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM, WHICH WILL BE FIRST OUT OF THE GATE WITH THE LONG CENTER, THE 
          [01:30:01]
GOAL IS APRIL, UH, TO HAVE THE APPLICATION OPEN. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE ANTICIPATE THE APPLICATION TO BE THAT'S GREAT. 
          OPEN 40, AT LEAST 45 DAYS. 
          UH, WE WANNA BE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS ENOUGH TIME TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED THAT WE'RE PREPARING EACH APPLICANT FOR SUCCESS SO THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT A COMPLETE APPLICATION THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED, MY GOAL IS TO HAVE THE MOST ROBUST LIST OF ELIGIBLE APPLICATIONS IN A, IN A ROW OKAY. 
          OF WHAT COULD BE AWARDED MM-HMM. 
           SO THAT WE CAN ALSO TELL COUNCIL AND MAYOR, HEY, WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A LIST OF X AMOUNT OF, UH, SUCCESSFUL APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SCORED TO, YOU KNOW, EQUALING X AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT I'M ASSUMING WOULD BE WAY OVER, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED SO THAT WE CAN EXPLAIN THIS IS THE NEED, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO FUND THIS TIME. 
          UH, AND THEN THAT GIVES US ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION FLOWING INTO THE NEXT YEAR SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE BUDGET DECISIONS AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK, YOU KNOW, ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE AND HOW TIMING COULD WORK BETTER. 
          SO I WISH I HAD MORE LIKE, WHEN IS THE FIRST CHECK GONNA BE CUT AFTER THE APPLICATION CLOSES? MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE LONG CENTER ALREADY ON TWO PROGRAMS, IS TO WORK WITH THEM DILIGENTLY TO GET THROUGH THE EVALUATION AND SCORING PROCESS, HAVE THE DUE DILIGENCE TO LOOK OVER THAT TRIPLE CHECK IT JUST LIKE WE DID WITH OUR PREVIOUS PROGRAMS WITH THEM SO THAT WE HAVE SUCCINCT AND PRECISE LIST OF AWARDEES OF POTENTIAL AWARDEES SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THE 3.5 MILLION, SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THE ADMIN FEE MM-HMM. 
          , AND THEN ADD WHATEVER ADDITIONAL GRANTS WE CAN BECAUSE WE'VE SAVED SOME MONEY ON THE ADMIN FEE. 
          UH, AND THEN ONCE THAT PROCESS IS DONE AND WE, AND WE'RE MOVING INTO ELEVATE BY FISCAL YEAR 24, WE'RE GONNA KNOW SO MUCH MORE SO THAT MM-HMM. 
          , IT'S GONNA BE A, A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, A SYSTEMIC PROCESS THAT YOU GUYS CAN, YOU KNOW, DEPEND ON MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UM, YEAH. 
          SO THAT IS A, IT LEADS INTO PERFECTLY INTO MY NEXT QUESTION ABOUT HOW, UM, HOW THE PROGRAM WOULD BE EVALUATED BOTH IN TERMS OF HOW WELL IS IT WORKING FOR RECIPIENTS MM-HMM. 
          , BUT ALSO HOW WELL IS IT WORKING ON THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UM, IS THE LONG CENTER THEMSELVES, WILL THEY BE DOING ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK? I MEAN, HAS THAT BEEN PART OF THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION? THEY'VE GIVEN US GREAT FEEDBACK FROM DAY ONE. 
          A LOT OF TIMES WE CAN FIX THINGS AS IT'S HAPPENING. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THEIR LIVES EASIER AND TO MAKE OUR LIVES EASIER MM-HMM. 
           AND IF WE CAN'T, WE PUT IT IN A LIST OF THINGS KIND OF A, A LIST OF TO DO TO MAKE THE PROCESS EASIER AND BETTER FOR THE NEXT TIME. 
          AND WHAT ABOUT OUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING FEEDBACK FROM RECIPIENTS? IS THERE GONNA BE A, LIKE A METHODICAL LIKE SET AND SET PROCESS FOR AFTER YOU'VE RECEIVED FUNDS LIKE SIX MONTHS LATER YOU GET A SURVEY AND IT'S THESE QUESTIONS AND YES. 
          SO THERE WILL BE KIND OF SOME INTERMITTENT REPORTING AS WE'RE DOING PAYMENTS JUST TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          BUT THEN THERE WILL BE A FINAL REPORT THAT WILL HAPPEN AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE 12 MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WHICH WILL COLLECT A LOT OF DATA THAT WE WANNA SEE HOW DID IT DO? MM-HMM. 
           DOES, WAS IT, DID THIS GET THE INTENT OF PIE , YOU KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT ALSO A SURVEY OF HOW WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, TELL US ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT COULD BE BETTER, WHAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT'S, WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED IN THE ORDER OF IMPORTANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AND SO CUZ IT'S GONNA BE CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND IMPROVING AND THAT WILL NEVER STOP. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THIS IS AN INTERNAL SYSTEM THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY IMPROVING. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND I THINK, I MEAN, DEFINITELY WE, THE QUESTION I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY IS GONNA HAVE IS LIKE, WHO GOT THE MONEY AND WHAT DID YOU SPEND IT ON AND WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME? MM-HMM. 
          , LIKE HOW DID IT, BECAUSE OF THE, THE WHOLE PURPOSE REALLY OF THIS, THIS PROGRAM IS NOT TO JUST CREATE ONE-OFF EVENTS, BUT IT IS TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ELEVATE CAREERS MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WE'LL WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT'S THE ROI FOR EACH EVENT AND HOW, HOW DO, HOW DO, UM, DO INDIVIDUAL RECIPIENTS, YOU KNOW, DID THEY GET MORE SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWERS? MM-HMM. 
          , HOW MANY TICKETS DID THEY SELL? UH, DID IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE NEXT STEP IN THEIR CAREER THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE AS A RESULT OF THIS? UM, AND ALSO THE TRAINING THAT'S ASSOCIATED MM-HMM. 
           IN TERMS OF JUST CON, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS OF OUR AWARDEES OF GOING THROUGH CERTAIN TRAININGS. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE GREG AND KIM WORKED TOGETHER ON HOW WAS THAT TRAINING SUCCESSFUL? WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF TRAINING DID YOU, DID YOU NOT HAVE THAT YOU WISH YOU DID HAVE? OR WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS REDUNDANT? UH, WE WANNA MAKE IT AS PRACTICAL AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST THE GRANT GOING TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND HOW DID THE GRANT DO, HOW DID THE DOLLARS GO? WHAT WAS THE ROI ON THE DOLLARS? YOU KNOW, IT'S ALSO, 
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LIKE YOU SAID, IS YOUR CAREER IN A BETTER PLACE NOW THAN IT WAS 12 MONTHS AGO? UM, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO KIND OF GET TO THE NEXT STEP WITH THIS NEXT ITERATION OF IT? WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER? UH, AND ALSO THOSE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE EVERYONE TAKES THE SAME TRAINING. 
          IT COULD BE THAT I HAVE THIS GREAT TRAINING WITH THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION AND I REALLY NEED IT, AND THAT'S FINE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA DICTATE WHAT TRAININGS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT PEOPLE SHOULD DO. 
          BUT WE WILL PROVIDE FREE OPTIONS THROUGH CITY OF AUSTIN SMALL BUSINESS DIVISION AND THROUGH OUR OWN NETWORKS TO PROVIDE FREE ACCESSIBLE TRAINING AS WELL AS EQUITY TRAINING AND RACIAL EQUITY TRAINING THAT WE WANNA SEE OF ALL OF OUR, UM, AWARDEES. 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          UM, YEAH, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE KIND OF EVALUATING THE PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS WILL BE A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE LONG CENTER MM-HMM. 
           AND, UH, ED D. 
          BUT THE, THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR WILL SOLICIT FEEDBACK. 
          OH YEAH. 
          AND IT'LL BE ONGOING. 
          THIS IS NOT LIKE A FEEDBACK PERIOD THAT ENDS ON THIS DATE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THIS IS ONGOING OVER THE COURSE OF THE CONTRACT OF THIS FIVE YEARS OKAY. 
          OF CONSTANTLY COMMUNICATING AND IT'LL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE OH YEAH. 
          THE INFORMATION. 
          SO WE COULD MAYBE SET IT, SAY LIKE, LET'S SAY THE PORTAL OPENED IN APRIL. 
          WE COULD SAY LIKE, HEY, IN OCTOBER SIX MONTHS LATER, WE WANNA KNOW, JUST TELL US WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED SO FAR. 
          SHOW US, SHOW US THE SURVEY THAT WENT OUT. 
          JUST SHOW US THE RAW DATA THAT YOU GATHERED MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND THEY'LL HAVE THAT AT THE READY. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REAL EXCITING TOO, IS JUST THE DASHBOARDS THAT, LIKE WE SHOWED YOU WITH AWESOME MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF IS MM-HMM. 
          , WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU THAT ON STEROIDS OR LIKE YEAH, THAT WAS GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY WONDERFUL TO SEE. 
          I MEAN, NOT, I MEAN, I'M NOT WANTING TO LIKE CHECK ANYBODY'S HOMEWORK, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S O OBVIOUSLY WITH THIS KIND OF MONEY WE WANNA, EVERY, EVERYBODY WILL WANT WANT TO KNOW, EVERYBODY INVOLVED WILL JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT THE PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS IS AND ALSO TO SEE THAT THEIR FEEDBACK LED TO AN IMPROVEMENT. 
          THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO SHOW YEAH. 
          THAT IT'S NOT THE ETHER, YOU'RE NOT YELLING INTO THE ETHER THAT THERE IS, OKAY, WE GOT THIS FEEDBACK AND THIS IS, I, WE CAN ACTUALLY TRACK, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT REQUEST. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, SO THAT'S GREAT. 
          WELL, WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE FALL. 
          AND THEN I DO THINK THAT'LL HELP, UM, AS THE VENUES STEP IN, THEY CAN SEE, THEY CAN HAVE A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF WHAT THEIR ROLE CAN BE IN THIS MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UH, I, I MEAN, NOT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT IT COULD BE ALREADY, BUT I THINK SOME THINGS MAY CRYSTALLIZE OR THEY MAY SEE WHAT THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE, UM, AND HOW THEY'VE BENEFITED JUST THROUGH ALSO AS A SECONDARY BENEFICIARY OF THIS FIRST ITERATION, WHICH IS THERE COULD BE LOTS OF FOLKS USING VENUES WITH THE YEAH. 
          THEIR FIVE TO $10,000 GRANT MM-HMM. 
           EVEN BEFORE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDED VENUES AS AN OFFICIAL ELIGIBLE GROUP. 
          SO, SO I'LL THROW IT OUT TO THE COMMISSION. 
          UM, DID YOU, DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT LONG CENTER ADMINISTRATION OF THE, THE GRANT AND HOW THAT YEAH, GO AHEAD, SCOTT. 
          UH, THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH, WITH, WITH THEM, FIRST OFF, I THINK THIS, THIS WORK IS GREAT AND IT'S AWESOME AND IT'S, IT'S FANTASTIC. 
          UM, THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM, IS IT LIKE, UH, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY KIND OF CLAUSE ON THE CONTRACT BASED ON SOME KIND OF PERFORMANCE THING OR SOMETHING LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, UM, I MEAN, ARE WE LOCKED INTO THE LONG CENTER FOR FIVE YEARS NO MATTER, NO MATTER WHAT, HOW THIS, ANY OF THESE THINGS ROLL OUT? ALL CITY OF AUSTIN CONTRACTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CANCEL BASED ON PERFORMANCE. 
          AND SO, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES. 
          BUT THAT IS PART OF ALL, UM, TYPES OF CONTRACTS FOR GENERAL SERVICES, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS THEY'RE PROVIDING AS SERVICE TO US AS THE CITY. 
          AND OF COURSE IF THEY ARE NOT MEETING THAT SERVICE AND JUST LIKE WITH ANY CONTRACT OF THAT SORT, IT CAN BE, UM, TERMINATED THROUGH A SERIES OF STEPS. 
          UH, SO THAT IS JUST BOILERPLATE, THAT'S IN ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE, AFTER WORKING WITH THE LONG CENTER THROUGH TWO PROGRAMS NOW AND, AND WORKING WITH THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF HOW THIS COULD WORK, WE ANTICIPATE, UM, SOME GOOD RESULTS. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE RCA, I MEAN, BASICALLY THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS SET UP, IT RENEWS ANNUALLY, SO THAT'S THE YEAH. 
          KIND OF A, SO EVERY YEAR THEY'RE BUILT IN BREAK BREAK POINTS. 
          UM, SO IF, UH, IN THE FALL WHEN WE, SO THIS CONTRACT WOULD BE PROBAB, I GUESS IT'LL BE APPROVED HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO LIKE DO THE FINAL SIGNOFFS, BUT I ASSUME IT, LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER AGREEMENT THAT HAS TO BE EXECUTED. 
          BUT THAT WOULD HAPPEN SOON. 
          UH, WE'RE WORKING ON, THERE'S A DRAFT ALREADY HAPPENING, AND AS SOON AS WE GET THE APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL AND MAYOR, THEN WE'LL DO THE FINAL DUE DILIGENCE TO GET 
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THAT CONTRACT EXECUTED AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YEAH, IF THE PORTAL'S GONNA BE OPENING IN APRIL, SO YEAH. 
          SO THEN I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THINGS IN THE FALL AND SEE WHAT WE THINK AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS. 
          AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HOPEFULLY IT'S GONNA BE AWESOME. 
          IF IT'S NOT AWESOME, THEN THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO, TO NEXT FEBRUARY THAT WE WOULD WEIGH IN ON WHETHER WE THINK THAT CONTRACT SHOULD BE RENEWED OR NOT. 
          SO WE WOULD, WE COULD WEIGH IN EITHER WAY. 
          HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE SAYING LIKE, YES, PLEASE RENEW THE CONTRACT. 
          THIS HAS BEEN AMAZING. 
          WELL, THE CONTRACT WILL BE SET. 
          IT'S NOT ABOUT RENEWAL, IT'S, IT'S, BUT I, SO THAT BREAKDOWN YEAH. 
          IN THE RCA IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS LIKE YEAR ONE, IT'S A FIVE YEAR, IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. 
          UM, AND THERE IS NO RENEWAL POINT AFTER THAT FIVE YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK OUT AND REDO THE PROCESS AGAIN. 
          UM, BUT IT'S FIVE YEARS THAT AT ANY TIME CAN BE TERMINATED FOR VARIOUS REASONS LINED OUT IN THE CONTRACT TO MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, DOABLE. 
          LIKE I I SAID THESE ARE BOILER PLATE THAT'S PUT INTO ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS. 
          OKAY. 
          IF, IF WE'RE NOT GETTING WHAT WE NEED. 
          BUT AS I SAID, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES. 
          BUT AS YOU SAID, EVERY FISCAL YEAR WE STILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WITH OUR ALLOCATION FOR THAT SPECIFIC FISCAL YEAR BASED ON COLLECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN AND NEW PROGRAMS THAT ARE DEVELOPING. 
          AND SO THAT OF COURSE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO ADVISE, YOU KNOW, US AND HOW IT'S GOING. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES THAT, DO YOU, SCOTT DID THAT, DID YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UPS ON, ON THAT OR ARE YOU GOOD? YEAH, I THINK JUST ONE, UH, IS THE, WITH THE BOILER PLATE, BOILER PLATE CONTRACTS, ARE THOSE MADE PUBLIC OR IS THAT LIKE AN INTERNAL KIND OF THING? I WOULD ASSUME, WHICH IT'S PUBLIC. 
          OH, NO, THE ALL CONTRACTS ARE PUBLIC. 
          SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT ON THE PORTAL? THE COMPTROLLER'S THE FINANCE PORTAL, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS A GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, ANYBODY ELSE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? UH, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE DID, SO AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, VICE CHAIR MATT CHARLA, UM, MOTION THAT WE VOTE ON THIS AND THEN WE, THERE WAS REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          SO IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE COMMISSION DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US AT THE TIME TO TAKE A VOTE ON, UM, SENDING A COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION THAT THE LONG CENTER BE THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE THIS MONTH. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, IN, IN THE SPIRIT OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THIS KEEPS MOVING ALONG, I DON'T WANT IT TO GET HUNG UP AT COUNCIL. 
          UM, I WANT IT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION SUPPORTS THIS. 
          UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY? SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT. 
          UM, I HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY MOTIONED TO BET. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUALMS OR CONCERNS ABOUT SUPPORTING THE LONG CENTER AS A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR? UM, WITH LIKE, THE NEW INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE? ALRIGHT. 
          I DON'T THINK SO. 
          SO I, UH, WILL MOTION THEN THAT WE, UM, THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE LONG CENTER AS THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND WITH THE FOLLOWING PARAMETERS. 
          UM, A FEE NOT TO EXCEED THE 4.75 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS. 
          UH, THE LIVE MUSIC PORTAL TIMELINE, UH, IS SPECIFIED SUCH THAT THE, UH, THAT IT IS OPEN IN SPRING OF 2023 AND, UH, THE LONG CENTER PROVIDES, UM, A MECHANISM FOR FEEDBACK FROM PROGRAM RECIPIENTS SO THAT THE PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS CAN BE EVALUATED. 
          THAT WAS A LONG MOTION, BUT  I WILL, UH, DOES ANYBODY, SO I MOVE, THAT'S MY MOTION. 
          SECOND? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'VE GOT, UH, UH, TWO SECONDS. 
          SO I, I MOTION, I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL BEACHED THERE, LAUREN AS THE SECOND. 
          SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S ALL SIX OF US PRESENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE QUORUM. 
          AND SO THAT PASS, THAT MOTION PASSES AND KIM, I'LL GET YOU THAT AGAIN, THAT LANGUAGE TOMORROW ON THE TEMPLATE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THAT WAS GREAT. 
          THAT'S A GREAT MEETING. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS A, AGAIN, LIKE A, A VERY ROBUST EFFORT TO PRESENT TO OUR, UM, CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS COMING IN THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS, IS TRULY A PARTNER IN AD ADVISING THEM ON THESE ISSUES AND WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR GREAT STAFF ON THESE THINGS. 
          SO, 
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UH, WITH THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO I KNOW FIRST WE, WE WILL HAVE, YEAH, GO AHEAD SCOTT. 
          UH, YEAH, JUST, JUST BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I, AND I THINK THAT, UM, AND CHARLIE, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, REALLY BENEFICIAL, UH, FOR US TO SEE JUST EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND ON FROM ITS TOTALITY. 
          LIKE IF IT'S $22,369,000 IN THERE YEAH. 
          WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WE CAN START RECOMMENDING AND DOING THINGS FOR FUTURE LAUNCHES. 
          I AGREE. 
          AND SO, UH, ERICA SOUNDS LIKE YOU'LL BE SENDING US THOSE, THAT, THOSE BUDGET NUMBERS AS SPECIFIC, SO I GUESS THAT'D BE ACTUALS, PROJECTIONS, SO THAT ALL, ALL COLUMNS, WE WANT THE WHOLE THING , SO THAT'LL BE GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANKS FOR REITERATING THAT, SCOTT. 
          YEAH, I, I, I JUST, I I, I DO WANT TO JUST SAY, UM, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, CITY'S STANDARD AND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU KNOW, I, UM, I DO THINK THAT A, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S 4.75 NOT TO EXCEED 4.75 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS, BUT LOOKING AT THAT, IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR THEM TO DO THIS. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 5,000, $10,000 GRANTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IF IT'S $10,000, THAT'S TOO MUCH AND 30 GRANTS, IF IT'S $5,000, THAT'S 460 GRANTS AND WE'RE PAYING THEM A MILLION DOLLARS TO ADMINISTER THAT. 
          IT JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT SEEMS IT'S FOR ALL OF THE PROGRAMS. YEAH. 
          IT'S ALSO FOR CULTURAL ARTS FOR ELEVATE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YEAH, NO, I MEAN, YEAH, WE WANNA, WE WANNA WRITE, OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AS, AS MUSIC COMMISSIONERS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ALL LIKE MUSIC AND CREATIVE PEOPLE, UM, YEAH, WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE NUMBERS. 
          SO THAT'S A VALID POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I, I THINK IT'S, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE A, IF IF THEY DO IN FACT ADMINISTER A HUNDRED MILLION IN GRANTS, THAT THAT'S A, A LOW FEE OR A, YOU KNOW, IS THAT BAD? NOT A HIGH FEE, I GUESS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YEAH, LET'S KEEP CONTINUE TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE SPENDING A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, BUT THEN SOMETHING, THERE'S A KINK IN THE SYSTEM AND THE GRANTS AREN'T GOING OUT AND THEN, THEN IT TURNS OUT THE FEE IS ACTUALLY LIKE 15%. 
          LIKE WE NEED TO PAY. 
          I, AND I DON'T ATTEND, I DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT. 
          I THINK THE LONG CENTER IS GONNA DO A GREAT JOB, BUT YEAH, LET'S, LET'S KEEP PAYING ATTENTION TO IT AND, AND WORKING OUT THE MATH. 
          WELL, AND, AND CHARLOTTE, YOU WERE SAYING THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTING FROM THE LONG CENTER INFORMATION ABOUT THE TYPE OF WORK THEY'RE DOING. 
          SO THE TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE USEFUL WOULD BE HOW MANY GRANTS THEY LOOKED AT, HOW MANY THEY APPROVED, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO LOOK AT THE GRANTS THAT THEY DON'T APPROVE, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO LOOK AT THE GRANTS THAT THEY DO APPROVE, NUMBER OF WORK HOURS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND FROM THAT, WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THIS UP TO, UH, UH, $1 MILLION A YEAR, WHETHER THAT IS ACTUALLY WORTH IT OR, UM, AND LOOK AT, LOOK AT WAYS OF POSSIBLY IMPROVING IT IF IT'S NOT YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          WELL GOOD. 
          SO I, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE 
          [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, AND USUALLY I JUST LIKE TO DO THESE ALL AS A BATCH, CUZ WE DON'T, WE RARELY HAVE A DISAGREEMENT ON WHAT COULD BE ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO, UM, WE CAN JUST, I'LL JUST BARREL IN THE MINE TO GET US STARTED. 
          SO I GOT ONE. 
          YEAH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND BACK, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE BUDGET NUMBERS. 
          SO DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION, UH, FOLLOWING STAFF PRESENTATION ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND BUDGET. 
          UM, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE, WHICH IS THAT, UH, WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON, UM, A JOINT RETREAT WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION. 
          SO THAT'S NOT SOME I, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, LIKE I'VE, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED SINCE I WAS ON THE COMMISSION. 
          BUT THE ART, UH, THAT WILL BE GREAT. 
          THAT'LL BE A CHANCE FOR US TO ALL GET TOGETHER. 
          IT'LL PROBABLY BE LIKE A LONG MEETING BASICALLY. 
          UM, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW IT'LL BE STRUCTURED, UH, BUT THAT IS COMING, UH, LATER THIS SPRING, SO THAT'LL PROBABLY BE LIKE A SATURDAY. 
          SO, AND WE'LL FIND A DATE THAT WORKS FOR MOST. 
          A DOODLE POLL WILL GO OUT. 
          SO, BUT THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE MORE AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          UM, WHAT ELSE? UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM, UH, COMMISSIONERS ROSENTHAL AND LIMAN ON THE CIRCUIT OF THE AMERICA'S ACCESSIBILITY TASK FORCE, WHICH WE'LL BE MEETING TOMORROW. 
          OKAY, AWESOME. 
          [01:50:02]
UM, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON BUDGET REC, MUSIC COMMISSION BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND WE MIGHT HAVE PARKING BACK. 
          UM, SO YEAH, LET'S, OH YEAH, WE WILL. 
          WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          YES. 
          SO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSICIAN LOADING, UNLOADING, AND PARKING. 
          AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ALSO DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM, UH, THE URBAN CORE LAND USE WORKING GROUP. 
          SO THAT'S ALL OF MINE. 
          WARREN'S GOT ONE. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. 
          SO, UH, I'M MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ALL OF THOSE IS OUR FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE MARCH MEETING. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? OH, KIM'S GOT A, JUST ASKING IF YOU HAVE SECONDS. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I DON'T THINK WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A FULL VOTE ON THAT, SO THAT'S A, A SLATE A SECOND ON THE SLATE OF ITEMS. ALRIGHT. 
          MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          ANYBODY? LAUREN, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FIRST. 
          YES, I'M SORRY. 
          OH, GO AHEAD. 
          UM, CAN WE, ONCE YOU FINISH THE LANGUAGE FOR THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT WE VOTED FOR THIS EVENING, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR KIM TO SEND THAT OUT TO ALL OF US SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE THAT YEAH, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PROTOCOL, SO, OKAY. 
          I'LL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'LL KNOCK IT OUT AS EARLY TOMORROW AS I CAN SO SHE CAN SEND IT TO EVERYBODY AND ALSO, UM, GET IT INTO THE LATE BACKUP FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          AWESOME. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          SECOND ON, UM, OUR MOTION TO AJO. 
          WE HAVE A OKAY. 
          MOTION TO ADUR. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COMMISSIONER GOLD. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          BYE Y'ALL. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT, GREAT MEETING. 
          THANKS. 
          WE ARE ADJOURNED AS OF WHATEVER TIME IT IS. 
          NINE ISH. 
          8 48. 
          8 48. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD NIGHT. 
          THANKS Y'ALL. 
          TOGETHER WHEREVER WE ARE. 
          I COULDN'T BE ME WITHOUT YOU. 
          I COULDN'T BE ME WITHOUT, I COULDN'T BE ME WITHOUT YOU. 
          TOGETHER FOREVER, WHEREVER WE ARE, I.
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