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WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
[Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order]
NOW CALL THIS MEETING AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER AT, OH GOSH, 6:04 PM UM, FIRST WE'RE GONNA TAKE ROLL CALLS, STARTING WITH THOSE IN THE CHAMBERS, FOLLOWED BY THOSE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY.UH, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.
UM, SO I'LL JUST GO AS I SEE, UH, BOARD MEMBER COHEN SIO.
UM, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HERE.
UH, CLA OR, UH, CHAIR HEMPLE TONIGHT ON YOUR CHAIR HERE.
COMMISSIONER GIANNIS POLITO? HERE.
AND I THINK WE HAVE COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, BUT HE IS OFF THE DIAS RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, REMINDER, FOR THOSE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, PLEASE HAVE YOUR GREEN, RED, AND YELLOW ITEMS FOR VOTING.
UM, AND FOR THOSE ONLINE, ALSO REMAIN MUTED WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE RECOGNIZED AND JUST GIMME A SHOUT IF YOU, IF I MISSED YOU.
SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
[Reading of the Agenda]
INTO OUR, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.THE FIRST ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 14TH, 2023.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THOSE MINUTES? SEEING NINE, THAT WILL BE ADDED TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL RIGHT, AND SO, UM, COMMISSIONER SHAY IS GOING TO HELP ME OUT TONIGHT AND READ THE PROPOSED CONSENT AGENDA, IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE CONSENT, POSTPONEMENT, AND NON-DISCUSSION.
SO ITEM TWO IS PLANNED AMENDMENT NPA 2 20 22 0 0 5 0.01 VARGAS MIXED USE DISTRICT THREE.
THIS IS STAFF POSTPONE TO MARCH 14TH.
ITEM THREE IS A REZONING C 14 20 22 0 1 0 7 VARGAS MIXED USE DISTRICT THREE STAFF POSTPONE TO MARCH 14TH.
ITEM FOUR IS PLAN AMENDMENT N P A 20 22 0 1 4 0.03.
THIS IS STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
WE HAVE ITEM FIVE AS PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 14 0 5 BERGSTROM SPUR TRAIL MIXED USE DISTRICT TWO.
THIS IS STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO APRIL 11TH.
ITEM SIX IS PLANNED AMENDMENT NPA 2022 DASH 0 0 0 8 0 1 DASH UH, 3 317 TO 31 21 EAST 12TH STREET, DISTRICT ONE.
THIS IS STAFF POST POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
IT'S AN MPA 2022 DASH 0 0 2 3 0 2 EAST 51ST AND CAMERON DISTRICT FOUR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO APRIL 25TH.
ITEM EIGHT IS A PLANNED AMENDMENT NPA 2022 DASH 0 0 2 1 0 2 BURSON AND BEN WHITE DISTRICT THREE.
THIS IS TAF POST MOMENT TO APRIL 25TH.
ITEM NINE IS PLANNED AMENDMENT NPA 2022 DASH 0 0 0 9 0 1 1007 AND ONE AND 10 21 EAST SEVENTH STREET DISTRICT THREE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH, ITEM 10.
AND IT'S, UH, NPA 2022 DASH 0 0 0 5 0 2.
SECOND ALPHA 95, DISTRICT THREE, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
ITEM 11 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 114 DASH SECOND ALPHA 96, DISTRICT THREE, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
ITEM 12, WE HAVE A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2022 DASH 0 0 1 0 0 1 26 15 TO 26 17 EAST SIXTH STREET DISTRICT THREE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH.
ITEM 13 IS C 14 20 22 TO 1 12 26 15 TO 26 17 EAST SIXTH STREET DISTRICT THREE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH.
WE HAVE ITEM, LET'S SEE, 13 ITEM 14
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N.IT'S NPA DASH 2022 DASH 0 15 0 3 DARBY YARD SEVEN DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
IT'S A REZONING C 14 20 22 DASH 0 1 0 5 DARBY YARD, 700 DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT MARCH 28TH FIRST REQUEST.
ITEM 16 IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2022 DASH 0 0 3 1 0 180 6 40 AND 8,700 SHOLL CREEK BOULEVARD, DISTRICT SEVEN.
ITEM 17 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 117 86 40 AND 8,700 SHOLL CREEK BOULEVARD, DISTRICT SEVEN.
WE HAVE ITEM 18 AS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2022 DASH 0 15 0 4 HUDSON.
NUMBER THREE, DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT MARCH 28TH.
ITEM 19, REZONING C 14 20 22 DASH 0 1 0 6 HUDSON.
NUMBER THREE, DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
FIRST REQUEST, WE HAVE ITEM 20 AS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2022 DASH 0 16 2 BOARD AND TRACK DISTRICT THREE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH, ITEM 21 REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 1 21 BOARD AND TRACK DISTRICT THREE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH, ITEM 20 TWOS.
PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 1 5 0 6.
KLAUS SESTER DWELLINGS DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
ITEM 23 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH ONE 15 G CHESTER DWELLINGS DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
WE HAVE ITEM 24 IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2022 DASH 0 0 1 5.
DO ZERO SEVEN SH NORMAN CROSS NORMAN CROSSING DISTRICT ONE.
IT'S A CONSENT ITEM 25 REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 1 22 SH NORMAN CROSSING DISTRICT ONE ON CONSENT.
ITEM 26 REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 7 1 79 60 SHOLL CREEK REZONING DISTRICT SEVEN ON CONSENT ITEM 27 REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 27 REDLEAF HIGHLAND TRACK 12 DISTRICT FOUR, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
ITEM 28 REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 28 REDLEAF HIGHLAND TRACK THREE DISTRICT FOUR APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
ITEM 29 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 29.
REDLAND LEAF HIGHLAND TRACK FIVE DISTRICT FOUR APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 25TH, SORRY, 28TH.
ITEM 30 IS A REZONING C 14 20 22 DASH 30 REDLEAF, HIGHLAND TRACK FOUR, DISTRICT FOUR APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
ITEM 31 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 54 EL PALACIO EVENT CENTER, DISTRICT FOUR ON CONSENT ITEM 32.
IT'S A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 2 0 5 DENNY'S CONDOS DISTRICT ONE.
THIS WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.
ITEM 33 REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 2 0 3 RIVER, RIVERSIDE AND VARGAS DISTRICT THREE.
THIS IS ON UH, POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE ITEM 34 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 0 2 5 0 6 AND 5 0 8 WEST REZONING DISTRICT NINE UP FOR DISCUSSION ITEM 35, WE HAVE A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 19 5 2 25 NORTH LAMAR BOULEVARD, DISTRICT NINE.
THAT'S A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
ITEM 36 IS A FINAL PLAT FROM AN APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT J DASH 2019 DASH 0 1 43 3 A HOWARD LANE, PHASE THREE THAT'S ON CONSENT.
WE HAVE ITEM 37, FINAL PLATFORM AND APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT J DASH 2018
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DASH 0 91 4 A TURNER'S CROSSING SOUTH PHASE TWO ON CONSENT.WE HAVE ITEM 38 IS A RE SUBDIVISION C EIGHT DASH 2022 DASH 2 67 0 A RE SUBDIVISION OF LOT ONE DASH A DISTRICT SIX ON CONSENT.
AND FINALLY ON WE HAVE ITEM 39 AS A FINAL PLAT C 8 20 22 DASH 0 3 52 DO ZERO A 2020.
RALPH ALBANINO DRIVE ON CONSENT.
AND THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SHAY.
AND I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER MOSH TYLER, UH, ONLINE AND COMMISSIONER ZA UH, JOINING US.
UM, AND I THINK THERE WAS, UM, MISREADING NUMBER 34.
IT MIGHT HAVE CHANGED RECENTLY.
SO NUMBER 34, UM, WHICH IS THE 5 0 6 AND 5 0 8 WEST REZONING IS, UH, ACTUALLY A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONE TO MARCH 14TH.
SO DO I HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS NEEDING TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? UH, CHAIR.
UH, UH, NOT A RECUSAL, BUT, UM, WHAT DO WE NEED TO, UH, ON NUMBER 39? IS THAT APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS PER EXHIBIT C? JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, UH, CONSENT RECOMMENDATION ON THAT 39.
READING THAT INTO THE RECORD, YOU'RE CORRECT.
COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, UH, 39 IS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS PER EXHIBIT C AND THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.
ANY OTHER, UM, RECUSALS QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER YIANNIS POLITO, I'D LIKE TO PULL 16 AND 17 FOR DISCUSSION, HOPEFULLY TOGETHER.
IS ANYBODY ELSE HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE HEARING IN THE ROOM? I THINK IT MIGHT NEED TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT.
ITEMS 16 AND 17 HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
SO, UH, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN THOUGH WE WERE 10 DAYS FROM VOTING ON A BRAND NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT IS STILL DESPERATELY NEEDED IN THIS CITY, UM, ALL THAT'S LEFT AND ONLY TOOL REALLY LEFT FOR AUSTINITES ARE REZONINGS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A BIG SHORTAGE ON STAFF OF REZONING CASE MANAGERS.
AND SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S A LOT OF CASES BEING POSTPONED AS A RESULT.
IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE BETTER ZONING.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE SO MUCH REZONING, BUT ALSO IF ANYONE'S WATCHING THIS AND WANTS TO WORK FOR THE CITY, NOW'S A GREAT TIME.
UM, WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, SO UNLESS I HEAR OTHERWISE, I'M GOING TO PUT IT ON CONSENT.
SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THAT IS AN ISSUE.
YES, CHAIR, JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE WE SAYING THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING IT ON CONSENT TO POSTPONE OR NO.
WE DID GET A, AN EMAIL ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT MM-HMM.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, BUT NOBODY'S HERE TO SPEAK TO IT OR DIDN'T SIGN UP VIRTUALLY.
DID YOU WANNA PULL IT? UH, NO.
[Consent Agenda]
ME GO BACK AND READ THE CONSENT AGENDA.SO WE HAVE, UM, ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND THREE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH.
NUMBERS FOUR, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
NUMBER FIVE, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO APRIL 11TH.
NUMBER SIX, STAFF POSTPONED TO MARCH 28TH, NUMBER SEVEN AND EIGHT, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO APRIL 25TH.
NUMBER NINE, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH, NUMBER 10 AND 11.
STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
STAFF POSTPONE TO MARCH 14TH, NUMBER 14
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AND 15.NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
NUMBER 16 AND 17 ARE UNCON, UH, SORRY, THOSE WERE JUST PULLED FOR DISCUSSION NUMBER 18 AND 19, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
NUMBER 2021, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH, NUMBER 22 AND 23, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH, NUMBER 24 AND 25 OR ON CONSENT NUMBER 26 IS ON CONSENT NUMBER 27, 28, 29 AND 30 ARE ALL APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH.
NUMBER 31 IS CONSENT NUMBER 32 IS FOR DISCUSSION.
NUMBER 33 WILL BE ON CONSENT NUMBER 34 NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH, NUMBER 35, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 28TH AND NUMBER 36, 37, 38, 39 ARE ALL ON CONSENT.
DID I GET THAT RIGHT? ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES? CHAIR? YES.
REGARDING COMMISSIONER THOMPSON'S QUESTION ABOUT ITEM 33.
HAS THERE BEEN A PREVIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT REQUEST ON THAT ITEM? THE EMAILS THAT IT WAS THE FIRST.
UM, AND IS DO, IS IT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THE POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION? NO, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
I, I OFFERED IT TO GO ON CONSENT, BUT YOU COULD PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.
OH, I'LL PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, PLEASE.
THREE'S BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.
UM, UH, MR. RIVERA, ANY SPEAKER SIGNED UP ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LEE ON VERA? NO, THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA CAN, UM, UH, PROCEED AS READ.
UH, BUT I THINK YOU MAY WANT TO ENTERTAIN ALSO PLACING THE, UH, INITIATION OF THE CODE AMENDMENT.
OH, UH, SPONSORED BY THOMPSON AND ANDERSON.
AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER 41, THE, UM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION INITIATING CODE AMENDMENTS TO CITY CODE TITLE 25 TO MODIFY THE CORRIDOR OVERLAY COMBINING DISTRICT TO ADD ADDITIONAL OVER ROADWAYS TO THE OVERLAY.
UM, IS ANYONE OPPOSED TO THAT BEING PUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER MUHA? WE HAD A BRIEFING ON THIS.
UM, NO, THIS WAS, UH, AN ITEM INITIATED BY COMMISSIONERS THOMPSON AND ANDERSON MM-HMM.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP IT ON THE YEAH, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IT.
TO, TO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, TO SPEAK TO IT REALLY QUICKLY, ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THE, THE INITIATION OF THE PROCESS.
THE PROCESS, MEANING IT WOULD GO TO CODES AND ORDINANCES FIRST, AND, AND THEY WOULD DISCUSS IT AND THEN IT WOULD COME BACK TO PC AND WE WOULD DISCUSS IT AT THAT TIME TO, FOR A POSSIBLE MOVING FORWARD.
SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW OTHER THAN SHOULD WE EVEN START THE PROCESS? OKAY.
PULLING MY REQUEST TO PULL IT.
NUMBER 41 IS ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ALONG WITH OUR MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 14TH.
CAN I JUST MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT ITEM? I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT ITEM, AND I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION AT COUNCIL TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK THIS YEAR.
THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY AS WE APPROVE IT IS, AND I DO SUPPORT IT, IS HOPEFULLY AS WE'RE DOING THIS CONVERSATION, OUR STAFF CAN REALLY LOOK AT HOW TO AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING AND MEET YOUR, MEET OUR GOALS AROUND HOUSING DISPERSION AND USE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT PURPOSE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? UM, I THOUGHT I SAW A, A HAND COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOWARD.
UH, COMMISSIONER COX, DO YOU HAVE GREEN OR WHICHEVER WAY YOU'RE GONNA VOTE?
UH, UNANIMOUS ON VIRTUALLY ON DIAS.
[33. Rezoning: C14-2022-0203 - Riverside and Vargas; District 3 (Part 1 of 2)]
FORWARD TO OUR DISCUSSION, POSTPONEMENT CASE, WHICH IS NUMBER 33.[00:20:01]
SO, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? NOT SURE IF THE, UH, APPLICANT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.UM, SO, UM, MS. SO WE WILL HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES COMMISSIONERS.
AMANDA SWORE, UH, WITH JENNER GROUP.
I'M SPEAKING ON THE DISCUSSION POSTPONE, SO I DON'T NEED THE PRESENTATION.
YEAH, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, NOT ON MERITS OF THE CASE.
JUST ON THE, ON THE REQUIRE ON THE DISCUSSION POSTPONE.
UM, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME.
THIS IS LITERALLY THE SECOND TIME THAT I'VE EVER, UM, GOTTEN UP AND SPOKEN AGAINST A POSTPONEMENT.
THIS CASE HAS A SERIES OF VERY, UM, UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES.
THIS IS A REZONING CASE THAT IS PART OF A SMART HOUSING CASE, UM, MEANING THAT OF THE 600 UNITS, 300 OF THEM ARE PROPOSED TO BE AFFORDABLE.
UM, WITH THAT, WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT HAS A CONTRACTUAL DEADLINE OF MARCH THE 10TH.
THAT IS OUR LAND SELLER, UM, LAND SELLER'S DEADLINE.
UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH THE NINTH.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS CASE GOT CUT UP IN SOME, UM, REALLY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES AS IT WENT THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS.
IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS, UM, TO REQUIRE A ZONING TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS, A ZT A, UH, WE HAD CLEARED ALL OF ZONING STAFF'S COMMENTS AND WERE ACTUALLY NOTICED ON YOUR AGENDA.
ORIGINALLY IN NOVEMBER, UH, WE ENDED UP BEING POSTPONED TO DECEMBER THE 13TH.
AND WITH THAT, UH, THAT MEETING WAS CANCELED BECAUSE OF THE ELECTIONS.
AND SO WITH THAT, WE GOT INTO THE REQUIREMENTS TO START REIFYING.
AND ONCE WE CLEARED THE ZT, WHICH WAS JANUARY THE FIFTH, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR YOUR JANUARY, I THINK IT WAS THE 20, YOUR LAST MEETING IN JANUARY, YOUR JANUARY 20 SOMETHING.
UM, MEETING, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THINGS HAPPENED.
WE GOT A NOTE FROM STAFF THAT UNFORTUNATELY THE CASE WAS OVERLOOKED AND IT DIDN'T GET ON THE AGENDA, WHICH WAS FINE.
UM, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE FEBRUARY 14TH PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT, UM, CASE DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED BECAUSE OF THE ICE STORM.
WE WERE ONE OF THOSE THAT WAS A CASUALTY.
SO WE, WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON YOUR AGENDA IN NOVEMBER.
WE ARE NOW HERE ON THE 28TH OF FEBRUARY WITH, THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE TO COME TO YOU TO GET TO COUNCIL BY THE 9TH OF MARCH TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT CAME AT NINE O'CLOCK LAST NIGHT.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE OCTOBER.
UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE IS NOTHING THAT THEY HAVE NOT NEEDED.
THEY'VE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY.
I CAN TALK TO THAT IF Y'ALL WANT TO.
AGAIN, IT IS A SMART HOUSING CASE WITH 50% OF THE UNITS AS AFFORDABLE.
AGAIN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S OUTSTANDING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I, I DON'T TAKE THIS REQUEST LIGHTLY, BUT WE DO REQUEST THAT YOU MOVE THIS CASE FORWARD TONIGHT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, WELL, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR, I'LL PROPOSE HAVING FIVE COMMISSIONERS AT THREE MINUTES EACH FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, DOES ANYBODY TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT? DISAGREE? OKAY.
UH, WE CAN'T DISCUSS, CAN WE DISCUSS AFFORDABILITY IN THE POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION? WE'D HAVE TO GO INTO DISCUSSION TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
YEAH, JUST THE, JUST ABOUT THE POSTPONEMENT ITSELF.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER COX? I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, I GUESS MAYBE FROM STAFF OR THE APPLICANT, IF, IF THIS IS LARGELY JUST CLEANING UP A MAP, UM, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF BOUNDARY WENT RIGHT THROUGH THIS, THIS LOT, UM, IS THAT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS CASE IS ABOUT OR IS IT ABOUT SOMETHING MORE? CAN I ANSWER THAT? YEAH, APPLICANT.
UM, TRY TO CHAIR COMMISSION THAT'S DELVING INTO THE, UH, MATTERS OF THE CASE.
DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SCHEDULING
WELL, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF IT'S SOMETHING MORE THAN AN ADMINISTRATIVE TYPE PREZONING.
CUZ IF IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, THEN I DON'T SEE A NEED TO TO POSTPONE IT, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING MORE, THEN WE MAY WANT TO GIVE IT MORE CONSIDERATION.
THE, THE, IT IT IS EXTENDING THE ZONING BOUNDARY TO TAKE UP THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY.
IS THAT A FAIR ANSWER? AND THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED, IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR WHOLE PROPERTY BOUNDARY IS, IS BASICALLY THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE WHOLE BOUNDARY? YES, SIR.
IT EXTENDS THE HUB BOUNDARY AND THE DESIGNATION TO TAKE UP THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY.
WE HAD TO ZONE THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DESIGNATED LINE ON WHERE THE, THE ARBITRARY LINE THAT SPLITS THE PROPERTY WAS WE, SO WE HAD TO ZONE THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY.
WE COULDN'T ZONE IT VIA MEETS AND BOUNDS LIKE YOU SEE A LOT OF TIMES.
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POSTPONEMENT, COMMISSIONER? THANK YOU, TREY, UM, MS. WORK, CAN YOU, UM, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, FOR THE SAKE OF THE PERFORM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.UM, AND I'M GONNA ASSUME IS YOUR, IS THE IDEA WOULD BE, LET'S SAY, IF THERE'S, WOULD YOU SAY THERE'S LIKE A FEW REMAINING ITEMS LEFT TO CONSIDER? LIKE HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE OTHER ISSUES ALREADY? I BELIEVE THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH CLEANED UP.
I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES HAD BEEN TRAVELING AND ARE TRAVELING, SO I DO NOT WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM, UM, BY ANY MEANS ON THE RECORD.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING OUTSTANDING THAT THEY'RE WAITING ON FOR US, AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER A LOT OF THEIR QUESTIONS.
AND IS THERE SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE WORKED OUT WITH THEM? THEY DO HAVE A DRAFT AGREEMENT FROM US IN THEIR INBOX AS OF TODAY.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, I'M, I'M JUST GONNA ASK YOU, BUT IS, IS, WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK TO RESOLVE ANY OUTSTANDING ISSUES AS THIS GOES TO COUNSEL? YES.
SO IF WE DO ESSENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD THIS CASE TODAY, THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO RESOLVE ANY LASTING ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT HAVE? YES, SIR.
I DID SPEAK WITH MR. MCGEE THIS MORNING ON THE PHONE AND I TOLD HIM THAT AS WELL.
I, I ASKED IF THEY WOULD ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD TODAY AND WE WOULD AGREE TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WE WENT TO COUNSEL.
COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, UH, MS. WARD, YOU, YOU MENTIONED, UH, A MARCH 10TH DEADLINE, I THINK.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT DEADLINE IS AND WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE? IF YOU SAID THAT IS OUR CONTRACTUAL DEADLINE WITH THE LAND SELLER? WE HAVE ALREADY, BECAUSE OF THE FIRST POSTPONEMENT, WE HAD PUT UP SIGNIFICANT EARNEST MONEY TO GET THAT EXTRA MONTH.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY THE, PARDON ME, IT WAS ORIGINALLY FEBRUARY DATE WE PAID, UM, I WON'T GO INTO NUMBERS, BUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GET TO THIS MARCH 10TH DATE.
AND SO THAT'S THE DATE RIGHT NOW THAT WE EITHER HAVE TO CLOSE OR PUT UP A VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT COULD, UM, LEGITIMATELY BECAUSE THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, JEOPARDIZE THE VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT.
AND, UH, IF THIS IS HEARD BY CAPITAL ON THE NINTH, YOU EXPECTING TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THE READINGS ON THE NINTH, THEN, THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CLOSE ON THE 10TH? WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH CITY STAFF AND ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WOULD GO WITH FIRST READING.
WE ARE COMFORTABLE CLOSING AFTER FIRST READING WITH CITY COUNCIL.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE POSTPONEMENT? ALL RIGHT, ONE LAST QUESTION.
HAS, HAS THIS CASE BEEN DISCUSSED PRIOR IN ANY OF THOSE POSTPONEMENT DATES? NO, MA'AM.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT IT'S ACTUALLY REAL LIVE, BEEN, UM, ABLE TO GO, IT HAD BEEN STAFF POSTPONEMENTS PRIOR BECAUSE THE ZONING TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS WASN'T COMPLETE AND THEN IT HAD BEEN EITHER WITHDRAWN FROM YOUR AGENDA BECAUSE OF POSTING ERRORS, ET CETERA.
NOTICE ERRORS, PARDON ME? I CANCELED MEETINGS.
UM, I KEEP SAYING LAST QUESTION, BUT I HAVE ONE MORE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, SO I
UM, I DID NOT PULL THIS FOR DISCUSSION, UM, CUZ IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFTER WE VOTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO DISCUSS THIS CASE AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, PARTICULARLY AROUND AFFORDABILITY? YES, YOU CAN STILL PULL IT.
COMMISSIONERS HONOR, I'M CLARIFYING STAFF, YOU CAN HELP US ESSENTIALLY IF WE AT THIS POINT, UM, DENY THE POSTPONEMENT AND MOVE AHEAD, IT BECOMES A DISCUSSION CASE FOR TONIGHT.
YOU JUST DISSOLVED THIS, UH, POST MATTER.
SO COMMISSIONER, HONESTLY, THAT WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY AT THIS POINT DENY THE POSTPONEMENT AND IT BECOMES A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR OUR AGENDA FOR LATER TODAY.
I WAS CONFUSED CUZ ON PRIOR AGENDA IT WAS LISTED AS CONSENT.
MAYBE I JUST, ANYWAY, GO AHEAD,
MOVED TO HEAR THIS ITEM TONIGHT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON THE DIAS 3, 4, 5.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD IS OFF OFF SCREEN.
SO WE'RE GOING, GOING TO HEAR THIS CASE TONIGHT.
WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR FIRST, LET'S SEE, WE'LL TAKE THEM IN ORDER.
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NUMBER 16[Items 16 & 17]
AND 17, THE SHOAL CREEK BOULEVARD CASES.SO WE'LL HEAR FROM CITY STAFF.
HEY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? KATHLEEN FOX? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
I'M KATHLEEN FOX WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT CHAIR COMMISSION I ON, IF WE COULD PAUSE FOR A MINUTE.
MS. FOX, IF YOU COULD DISPLAY YOUR CAMERA PLEASE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN ON THE CAMERA.
UM, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE, UH, ZONING, UH, STAFF AND WE'LL WORK WITH MS. FOX.
SO YOU DON'T WANT ME TO DO MY REPORT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT CHAIR, COMMISSION LAY ON INVER.
UH, IF THE, UH, COMMISSION DESIRES THE BACKUP IS, UM, UH, PART OF THE RECORD.
WELL, IF WE FIGURE OUT THE CAMERA ISSUES, WE CAN COME BACK TO MS. FOX.
COMMISSIONER SHERRY SIRES WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 17, THE ASSOCIATED ZONING CASE, WHICH IS HEY, C 14 20 22 117.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 86 40 IN 8,700 SHO CREEK BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS FROM LI TO I P D A ZONING.
THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR L I P D A LIMITED INDUSTRIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT AREA.
COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS DEVELOPED WITH TWO ONE STORY, UH, INDUSTRIAL OFFICE WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS.
THE LOTS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH ARE DEVELOPED WITH OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT CONTAIN THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE FACILITIES TO THE EAST ACROSS HILL CREEK BOULEVARD.
THERE ARE TWO OFFICE COMPLEXES TO THE WEST.
THERE'S A RAILWAY AND AN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT FRONTING ONTO THE MOPAC NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD.
IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO ADD A PDA OR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AREA DISTRICT TO THIS EXISTING ALLY ZONING TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS ALLY PDA ZONING.
THE PROPOSED PDA OVERLAY WILL ADD THE FOLLOWING, PERMITTED RESIDENTIAL USES, BED AND BREAKFAST CONDOMINIUM, RESIDENTIAL, MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, TOWNHOUSE RESIDENTIAL, AND AN ADDITIONAL CIVIC USE HOSPITAL SERVICES LIMITED TO THE PROPERTY.
IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROHIBIT NUMEROUS INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR BACKUP IN EXHIBITS D AND E, THERE'S A LONG TABLE THAT IS LISTED.
MOST OF THOSE ARE THE MORE INTENSIVE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE ALLY DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN, UH, THE SETBACKS IN THE LA DISTRICT FOR THIS PROPERTY AND THE PROPOSED.
UM, SO I'LL GO INTO THE REASONS FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION.
THE PROPOSED LI P D A ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING ZONING PATTERNS IN THE AREA BECAUSE THERE IS ALLY INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL ZONING TO THE EAST AND WEST AND MULTI-FAMILY ZONING IN USES TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THIS SITE.
THE LAP D A ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR A FAIR AND REASONABLE USE OF THIS SITE BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO DEVELOP ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THIS AREA ALONG A LEVEL FOUR ARTERIAL ROADWAY.
THE PROPOSED THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON NORTH BURN GATEWAY, UH, STATION REGIONAL CENTER AS DESIGNATED BY THE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIR, COMMISSIONER, LADIES.
AND, UH, APPEARS WE'RE STILL HAVING DIFFICULTIES WITH, UM, DISPLAYING THE CAMERA FOR MS. FOX.
UM, THE COMMISSIONER WISHES PROCEED.
UM, JUST TO NOTE TO COMMISSIONERS THAT BACKUP IS IN THE, UM, THAT INFORMATION IS IN THE BACKUP, SO WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
GOOD EVENING, SHARON COMMISSIONERS DAVID HARTMAN ON BEHALF OF APPLICANT O O H T PARTNERS ON THIS TRACK.
THIS IS THE ADDRESS ON CREEK BOULEVARD IS THREE ACRES, UM, WITH A VACANT OFFICE AND BOOK FULFILLMENT, UH, COMPANY.
THERE'S NO DISPLACEMENT CURRENTLY NO WATER QUALITY CONTROLS ZONED LA AND INDUSTRY PLUM WITH ADJACENT MULTI-FAMILY AND OTHER, UH, OFFICE TRACKS PROPOSED 330 UNITS WITH 10% AFFORDABLE UNITS ADJACENT TO TWO O IMAGINE OCEAN CENTERS, BICYCLE PATH URBAN TRAIL, UM, HALF MILE OF THE BUS STOP.
I'VE GOT EXHIBITS SHOWING ALL THAT.
AS INDICATED STAFF INDICATED GOING FROM LI TO LI P D A INDUSTRY TO MIXED USE.
AND AT THAT, AT THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS REQUEST, WERE ADDING SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS IN THE 10% AFFORDABLE UNITS
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SUPPORT BY THE CONTACT TEAM AS WELL AS HOUSING AND PLANNING STAFF.EXCUSE ME, THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP IN THE AREA OF THE TRACK.
YOU CAN SEE THERE WITH, THERE'S TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH, FURTHER TO THE SOUTH OFFICE, FURTHER TO THE SOUTH HON.
UH, FIRST TEXAS HONDA DEALERSHIP, A MULTI-FAMILY INTO THE SOUTHEAST, UM, OFFICE ACROSS THE STREET, REALLY NO INDUSTRIAL PER SE UNTIL YOU GET TO LIKE A PLUMBING SUPPLY BASICALLY.
SO IT'S BASICALLY KIND OF HOLD OVER INDUSTRIAL ZONING FROM BACK ON.
THE RAILROAD TRACKS, I THINK SERVE THAT AREA NEXT TO THE IMAGINE AUSTIN CENTERS AS DISCUSSED, UM, ASMP STREETS AND HALF A MILE TO THE CAP METRO BUS STOP, OBVIOUSLY ON, ON ONE OF THE BEST, UM, BIKE ROUTES IN THE CITY.
AGAIN, THIS SHOWS THE MULTI-FAMILY ACROSS THE STREET, MULTI-FAMILY THROUGHOUT.
AND BASICALLY THE GIST OF THIS PLUM, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS THAT IT, IT BASICALLY, UH, CENTERED THE RESIDENT RETAINED THE RESIDENTIAL AROUND THE CENTER AND, AND BASICALLY SUGGESTED DENSIFYING, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL AROUND THE, THE EDGES.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, OBVIOUSLY.
HERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN THAT SHOWS THE FIRE LANE TO THE, THE NORTH.
UM, A BUNCH OF HERITAGE TREES THAT CONSTRAINS THE TRACK.
AND THEN THE ENTRANCE, THERE'S A RIVER TO, EXCUSE ME, A CREEK TO THE SOUTH, THAT FURTHER CONS CONSTRAINS THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE, THE, SO THE SOUTH IS, UH, YOU SEE THE STREET GOING EAST WEST, THERE IS CROSS CREEK DRIVE GOES TO PILLOW ELEMENTARY.
AND THE, THE, THE CONTACT TEAM AND NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED US TO, UH, PROPOSE SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS.
BASICALLY WANTED A SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOLS AS I THINK OF IT, WHICH WE WERE HAPPY TO DO.
AND THEY ALSO WANTED, UM, SOME AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR THE TEACHERS THAT WORKED THERE, WHICH WE WERE HAPPY TO COMMIT TO.
FROM INVOLUNTARY STANDPOINT, WE'RE GONNA ENTER INTO BY CITY COUNCIL THIRD READING, WE'LL ENTER INTO A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WITH ONE OF THE GROUPS IN TOWN THAT DOES THAT.
UM, THIS SHOWS THE PROPERTY CONSTRAINTS THAT BASICALLY DEMONSTRATES THAT ROUGHLY A ONE THIRD OF THE PROPERTIES NOT DEVELOPABLE, WHICH IS PARTLY WHY WE NEED, UM, THE KIND OF HEIGHT WHICH IN WHICH FRANKLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE KIND OF PRO APPROXIMATE PROJECTS IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR UNDER REVIEW BY THE CITY.
SO IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY ANALOGOUS.
UM, IF YOU READ IN THE BACKUP THIS, UH, SUPPORT LETTER FROM THE CONTACT TEAM, WE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THEM AND THEY BOUGHT INTO THE IDEA OF DENSIFYING THE EDGES OF THEIR, UM, PLAN, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UM, EARLY AND, AND WE'RE HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE.
WE DID KIND OF GET INTO SOME DETAILS ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA, BUT IT'S BASICALLY ONE OF THE STRONGER SUPPORT LETTERS I'VE EVER RECEIVED FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS JUST KIND OF DETAILS WHAT'S IN THE BACKUP THAT AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF ELIMINATING THE PROHIBITING THE, THE DIRTIER USES AND THE ADDITIONAL PROHIBITED USES THAT STAFF REQUESTED WE WERE AMENABLE TO.
SO ALL IN ALL, THAT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, PRETTY SIMPLE.
UM, SUPPORTS, UH, COUNCIL DIRECTED FOR MORE HOUSING IN ALL AREAS ON A CORRIDOR NEAR TRANSIT, HALF A MILE FOR A BUS STOP.
AND IN TERMS OF BRINGING IT UP TO ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, STANDARDS, UH, ATLAS 14 NEW WATER QUALITY CONTROL CONTROLS WHERE NONE CURRENTLY EXIST.
UM, LOTS OF MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STRONG CONTACT TEAM SUPPORT LETTER.
AND WE, UM, HOPE THAT YOU'LL, UH, SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, YOU UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION, SO WOULD YOU LIKE AN ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR REBUTTAL TIME? NO, THANKS.
UM, MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAY.
ALL RIGHT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, COMMISSION, OH, SORRY, TAKING A VOTE.
UH,
QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, OF COURSE,
UM, FIRST I JUST WANNA SAY I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE A PLAN THAT, UM, GIVES SO MUCH ATTENTION TO LOCAL AFFORDABILITY, HERITAGE TREES, UM, UPDATED IMPERVIOUS COVER, ET CETERA, UM, AND REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THOSE QUALITIES.
AND MY QUESTION IS JUST ABOUT, UM, IF THERE WAS ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT TRA NOT NECESSARILY TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, A FULL-ON STUDY, BUT UM, ADDITION OF THIS MANY UNITS ON A ROUTE THAT IS SO CRITICAL AS AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION ROUTE.
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AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PROXIMITY AND POTENTIALLY SOME ACCESS, UH, TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITIES.UM, BUT I, I DO WONDER IF THAT, UH, DISCUSSION CAME UP WITH THE CONTACT TEAM OR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT INCREASED POTENTIAL, INCREASED CAR TRAFFIC ON SHOLL CREEK AND AROUND PEDESTRIAN AND CAR, I'M SORRY, PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE WAYS.
UM, IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING THE APPLICATION, SO IF THE TRIGGERS SO MANY TRIPS, THEN YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY REQUIRED TO BE A FULL-BLOWN TRAFFIC ANO IMPACT ANALYSIS.
WE DIDN'T TRIGGER THAT THRESHOLD, AS YOU ALREADY CORRECTLY POINTED OUT.
WE'RE WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF THE BUS STOP THAT I MENTIONED ON THE SOUTH AS PART OF PROJECT CONNECTS CONNECT.
THERE'S THE PURPLE LINE BASICALLY THAT'S METRO RAPID THAT GOES ALL THE WAY FROM, UM, FROM THE, THE, THE, THE, THE UP NORTH, BASICALLY DOWN THROUGH SOUTHWEST AUSTIN, UM, WITH, UH, STOPPING THE, THE, THE BUS STOPS BASICALLY ALONG BURN ROAD.
SO THERE'S PRETTY, PRETTY VIBRANT, UH, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITIES, OBVIOUSLY WITH A BIKE LANE, UH, ONE OF THE BEST BIKE LANES IN THE CITY RIGHT THERE.
AND JUST IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU, UH, ANALYZE THE TRIP DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE CURRENT PROPOSED OFFICE HAS, AND PARTICULARLY THE FACT THAT THERE'S CURRENTLY A LOT OF, OF TRUCK TRAFFIC, REALLY.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY EMBRACED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE BRINGING RESIDENTIAL TO THIS AREA.
AND THEIR PRIMARY CONCERN, AS I STATED, WAS TO, FOR KIDS GETTING TO PILLOW ELEMENTARY, AND WE'VE KIND OF SOLVED THAT.
AND SO ONCE WE SOLVED THAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT PRETTY MUCH WENT AWAY AND THEY EMBRACED THE IDEA THAT WE WERE GETTING RID RID OF WHAT WAS FORMER TRUCK TRAFFIC AND TURNING THAT INTO RESIDENTIAL, UM, KIND OF, UH, SCALE AND FEEL, UM, IS THE BEST ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
UM, I WAS JUST CONSIDERING THE, THE DIFFICULTY OF CROSSING 180 3 TO GET TO KIND OF SOME OF WHERE, UH, THOSE ADDITIONAL TRANSIT LINES ARE, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE, UM, MOTION? OH, COMMISSIONER MOALA? I WAS, IS THERE NO, NO QUESTIONS.
I WAS GOING TO MOTION THAT WOULD BE MOVED TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? CAN I GET ALAR QUICK CLARIFICATION? THAT'S FOR, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT.
YEAH, NO, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT
YOU'RE ALONG SOME GOOD TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
THERE, THERE IS REALLY, AS YOU SAID, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THERE, THAT'S KIND OF BE TRANSITIONING TO MORE DILAPIDATED.
SO IT'S NICE TO SEE THIS REVITALIZED, BRING IN SOME DENSITY ON THE CORRIDOR THERE AND IMPROVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE.
ANYONE SPEAKING AGAINST OR IN FAVOR, MR. ANDERSON? I'D LIKE TO THANK THE DEVELOPERS FOR BRINGING THESE HOUSING UNITS, ESPECIALLY THIS FAR WEST.
IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO MORE.
UM, GO AHEAD AND VOTE UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK.
UM, ALL THOSE IN, UH, MOTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR BOTH MPA AND THE REZONING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON THE DIAS 3, 4, 5.
UM, AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS ON THE SCREEN AS WELL.
THAT ONE, UH, MOVES FORWARD WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
OKAY, NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM
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32, DENNY'S CONDOS.HEATHER CHAFFIN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS CASE C 14 20 22 0 2 0 5 DENNY'S CONDOS.
I'M SURE MOST OF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE DENNY'S ON I 35.
THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM C H C O N P TO L I P D A N P AS AMENDED.
THE ADDRESS 1601 NORTH I 35, UH, NORTHBOUND SERVICE ROAD.
STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S
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REQUEST OF L I P D A AND SUPPORTS AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C H V N P.I DO NEED TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT SHOULD BE C O N P AND I'LL, I'LL EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT THE CONDITIONAL CONDITIONS ARE THAT ARE INCLUDED.
THIS CASE WAS ORIGINALLY FILED AS A REQUEST FOR C H V P D A N P, UH, REVIEWING CODE.
WE DISCOVERED THAT A CH BASED DISTRICT CANNOT ADD A PDA UNLESS IT'S GREATER THAN 10 ACRES.
AS A RESULT, THE APPLICANT REQUE REVISED THE REQUEST ON JANUARY 5TH, AND I ATTACHED, OR I MEANT TO ATTACH THE APPLICANT LETTER.
THE APPLICANT LETTER GOT DROPPED OFF OF THE STAFF REPORT AND WAS UPLOADED LATER.
HOWEVER, SINCE WE WERE RUSHING TO GET IT, UH, UPLOADED LATER, I ATTA OR WHAT GOT UPLOADED WAS THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WHEN THE CURRENT INFORMATION IS IN THE AMENDED REQUEST.
SO I'VE SHARED WITH YOU, YOU ALL, HERE I GO WITH MY VOICE AGAIN, SHARED WITH YOU ALL THE UPDATED, UH, LETTER.
IT WAS AMENDED JANUARY 5TH, AND I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALL COVERED.
THE PROPERTY'S ON THE NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD OF I 35.
IT'S CURRENTLY C H C O N P DEVELOPED WITH A RESTAURANT IN, IT HAS FRONTAGE ON I 35 AND EAST 16TH.
UH, TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS A HOTEL MOTEL LAND USE, WHICH IS C H V C O N P.
THE NEXT PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS OAKWOOD CEMETERY ACROSS EAST 16TH TO THE SOUTH IS THE, IS THE SWED HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S PRIMARILY ZONED SF THREE NP AND DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER, UH, DESIGNATIONS INCLUDING MF THREE, MF TWO, AND L R MU NP.
THESE PROPERTIES ARE ALSO MOSTLY DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
UH, TO THE NORTH ACROSS, UH, MLK BOULEVARD ARE, IS UN ZONED PROPERTY THAT IS UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LAND AND INCLUDES AN OFFSITE ACCESSORY PARKING AND OUTDOOR SPORTS AND RECREATION.
UH, CROSS I 35 TO THE WEST IS MORE UT STUFF, UH, INCLUDING FRANK IRWIN'S CENTER.
THE REZONING REQUEST WOULD REMOVE CONDITIONS FROM THE CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE AND ESTABLISH NEW LAND USES AND SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
SO ONE CHANGE IS THAT GENERAL RETAIL SALES CONVENIENCE IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED, I MEAN PROHIBITED AND IT WOULD CHANGE TO BE PERMITTED.
COCKTAIL LOUNGE IS PROHIBITED.
IT WOULD BECOME A CONDITIONAL USE.
UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO 170 UNITS PER ACRE.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THAT LIMIT.
UH, THE LAND USES THAT WOULD BE ADDED WITH THE REQUEST ARE CONDOMINIUM, TOWNHOUSE, MULTI-FAMILY AND GROUP RE RESIDENTIAL AND PROHIBIT 40 LAND USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN LA UM, I'LL GET TO BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
AND THEN I'VE LISTED THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE CHANGED.
THE KEY ONES ARE THAT THE FAAR IS REQUESTED TO GO TO EIGHT TO ONE AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD BE 200 FEET.
THERE ARE SOME CHANGES TO IMPERVIOUS COVER IN BUILDING COVER ALSO.
SO REGARDING THE 40 LAND USES, I, THOSE ARE LISTED ON THE APPLICANT SUMMARY LETTER, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T RE RECEIVE UNTIL PRETTY LAST MINUTE.
SO I WILL READ THOSE RIGHT NOW JUST TO MAKE MAKE CLEAR THAT THEY'RE IN THE RECORD.
AND THE APPLICANT ALSO OFFERED TO, THE APPLICANT OFFERED TO, UH, PROHIBIT THESE USES AND STAFF SUPPORTS THAT ASPECT.
AGRICULTURAL SALES AND SERVICE, AUTOMOTIVE RENTALS, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SERVICES, AUTOMOTIVE SALES, AUTO AUTOMO, AUTOMOTIVE WASHING, ALL TYPES CAMPGROUND, COMMERCIAL BLOOD PLASMA CENTER, PAWN SHOP, COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING, CONSTRUCTION, SALES AND SERVICES, CONVENIENT STORAGE, DROP OFF RECYCLING, ELECTRONIC PROTOTYPE ASSEMBLY EQUIPMENT, REPAIR SERVICES, EQUIPMENT SALES, EXTERMINATING SERVICES, FUNERAL SERVICES, COMMUNICATION SERVICES, OFFSITE ACCESSORY PARKING, SAFETY SERVICES, KENNELS, LIQUOR SALES, LAUNDRY SERVICES, MONUMENT RETAIL SALES, OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT WOULD BE CONDITIONAL.
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UH, SORRY.VEHICLE STORAGE, LIMITED WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION, PET SERVICES, RESTAURANT, FAST FOOD DRIVE-IN, UH, SERVICE STATION, CUSTOM MANUFACTURING, HOSPITAL SERVICES, GENERAL LOCAL UTILITY SERVICES, MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE FACILITIES, BASIC INDUSTRY RECYCLING CENTER, RESOURCE EXTRACTION, GENERAL WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION.
SO STAFF IS NOT SUPPORTING L I P D A AND WE ARE SUPPORTING C H V C O N P AND THE CO THAT WE SUPPORT WOULD REFLECT THESE PROHIBITED USES.
UH, THE PROHIBITED USES THAT THE ONES, THERE ARE SOME USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN ALLY THAT WE WOULDN'T NEED TO PROHIBIT CUZ THEY'RE ALREADY AUTOMATICALLY PROHIBITED IN CH UM, ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE, UM, LAND USES BEING, UM, THE CHANGES TO THE EXISTING ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS CH ZONING BECAUSE IT ALLOWS INCREASED HEIGHT IN RELATION TO RE REDUCED IMPERVIOUS COVER.
AND IT CAN, YOU CAN GET HEIGHT UP TO 120 FEET DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH IMPERVIOUS COVER CH IS DESIGNED.
SO INSTEAD OF DESIGNING OUT YOU DESIGN UP THE, WITH VM U TWO, IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT FURTHER, UH, POSSIBLY UP TO 150 FEET.
AND TO ACHIEVE THAT INCREASED F A R AND HEIGHT, IT WOULD REQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
ONSITE STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT ADDING LIMITED INDUSTRIAL TO THIS LOCATION LIMITED.
THE PURPOSE OF THE STATE PURPOSE STATEMENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT IS IT'S THE DESIGNATION FOR COMMERCIAL SERVICE USE OR LIMITED MANUFACTURING GENERALLY LOCATED ON A MODERATELY SIZED SITE FOR COMPARISON.
COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY IS THE DESIGNATION FOR USE THAT HAS OPERATING, OPERATING AND TRAFFIC GENERATION CHARACTERISTICS THAT REQUIRE THAT THE USE BE LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF STATE MAINTAIN HIGHWAYS OTHER THAN SCENIC ARTERIAL ROADS.
UH, C CH DISTRICT DESIGNATION MAY BE APPLIED TO A SINGLE MAJOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES, THAT INCLUDES ANY COMBINATION OF OFFICE, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
A CH DISTRICT CAN INCLUDE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO AND FROM ALL USES.
THE ADDITION OF ALLY AT THIS LOCATION IS, UH, WE STAFF FEELS IS NOT APPROPRIATE, UH, DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, CIVIC LAND USES, UH, BASICALLY CIVIC ON THE WEST SIDE OF I 35 RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH CIVIC TO THE EAST AND UNIVERSITY TO THE NORTH.
AGAIN, ALLY DOES NOT, UH, IT'S NOT, UH, THE ALLY WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, UM, IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT FOR THE BASE DISTRICT AND IS BEING USED WITH THE PDA.
THE PDA ELEMENT IS PROPOSED IN ORDER TO REQUEST AN INCREASED HEIGHT TO 200, UM, AND, AND ALL THOSE SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
SO, UH, ALSO WANTED TO KNOW IN, YOU KNOW, THE HEIGHT IS A BIG PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
BOTH SCENARIOS ARE SUBJECT TO COMPATIBILITY TO THE SOUTH.
UM, THERE IS A SMALL PORTION OF CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDOR, UM, AND IT'S SHOWN ON THE EXHIBIT.
SO I DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES THAT WERE PART OF THE UPLOADED LATE BACKUP CORRESPONDENCE ITEMS. UM, AND I'M SURE THE, THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON, UH, SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL PROHIBITED USES AND CONCERNS THEY HAVE ABOUT IT.
SO AGAIN, UM, THE REQUEST OR THE REQUEST IS L I P D A N P AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION,
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WHICH I'M, I'M SORRY, IT ISN'T REFLECTED CLEARLY HERE.UH, IS C H I'M SORRY, IS
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSION MEMBERS.
I'M ALICE GLASGOW REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THIS CASE.
THE, UH, PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT I 35 AND, UH, SOUTH OF MLK BOULEVARD AND TO THE SOUTHEAST EAST, SOUTH EAST 16TH STREET WITHIN THE SWEET HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE, UM, THE PROPERTY AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IS, IS CURRENTLY HOUSES THAT DANNY'S RESTAURANT.
SO THE SITE WAS DESIGNED OR BUILT, UH, CONCURRENTLY WITH A DENNY'S RESTAURANT.
AND BEHIND IT IS, UH, A HOTEL, A DOUBLE TREE HOTEL THAT WAS ZONED CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS PROPERTY IN 1995.
SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE THE AREAS IN THE AREA.
THEWE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S ZONED C H C O N P.
AND THE HOTEL SITE TO THE NORTH OF US IS ZONED C H V N P C O N P, THE SWEDEN NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SOUTH.
SO JUST VERY QUICKLY, I'VE ATTACHED THIS MAP TO SHOW YOU REALLY, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF L I P D A.
YOU HAVE EIGHT CASES OF L I P D TONIGHT, AND THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH OUR CODE AS TO WHY WE KEEP USING THE L I P D A ABUSING THE LAP.
P D A TWO CASES CAME TO YOU RECENTLY AND, UH, ONE OF THEM WAS TO CHANGE FROM CSV TO L LAP P D TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT TO OUR LOUD RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S THE TOOL, NOT THE, UM, THE ZONING.
SO THE ALPHABETS MIGHT, THE ZONING I'M SEEKING AND WITH A RESTRICTION AND PROHIBITION OF THE USES IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE CH ZONING WE HAVE TODAY.
THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE THE CODE IS APPROXIMATELY 48 YEARS OLD, UH, THE TOOL, UM, RES ENDS UP BEING THE L I P D A TO ALLOW THE ZONING.
SO THIS IS, UH, GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT OUR CURRENT HEIGHT IS.
SO UNDER CH ZONING, OUR CURRENT, AH, HEIGHT IS 120 FEET.
THE, UM, WITH THE F A R OF THREE TO ONE, OUR PROPOSED ZONING IS TO ALLOW 200 FEET OF HEIGHT UNDER CH ZONING.
UH, YOU CAN GO UP TO 200 FEET ALLOWED IN THE CODE.
HOWEVER, THERE'S A, A CAVEAT WITHIN THE CODE THAT SAYS YOU, WHEN YOU DO ASK FOR C 200 FEET IN HEIGHT UNDER CH ZONING, YOU NEED TO COMBINE IT WITH PDA, BUT YOU MUST HAVE 10 ACRES AND UNLIKE YOUR L I P D, SO THE PDA COMBINING DISTRICT CAN BE COMBINED WITH FIVE DISTRICTS, I P L, I M, I C H, AND R AND D AND NONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS EXCEPT FOR CH, HAS THIS TENAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHEN I APPLIED FOR ZONING CASE BEFORE I APPLIED, ASKED STAFF, CAN I DO THIS, THEY CHECKED WITH LAW.
THEY SAID, YES, YOU CAN COMBINE CH H V P D A AS IS IN THE CODE, EXCEPT AFTER I FILED THE APPLICATION, THEY LATER TOLD ME, WELL, UH, THEY'VE BEEN ADVISED BY LAW AFTER FURTHER RESEARCH THAT REALLY THE, UH, 10 ACRE REQUIREMENT CANNOT BE MODIFIED.
SO MY OPTION WAS TO AMEND MY APPLICATION TO GO TO HAVE L I P D A SO THAT I CAN GET THE 200 FEET, THE 200 FEET ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE TO, UM, TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE GO TO, UH, CURRENT ZONING OF CH 103 UNITS.
WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A V.
UM, HOWEVER, WITH A, BECAUSE OF THE MOST RECENT, UH, COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE, UH, COMPATIBILITY AMENDMENTS, WE DO GET A DENSITY BONUS.
IF YOU USE THAT DENSITY BONUS, IT REDUCES THE APPLICABILITY OF COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS.
SO THAT'S HOW WE GET TO BENEFIT.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ONSITE, EVEN WITH L I P D A.
SO THE L I P D A, THE USES WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME AS CH P D A.
THE, UH, THE DIFFERENCES BECAUSE OF THE TENIKA REQUIREMENT, THE CODE HAS NOT BEEN, UH, FINE-TUNED TO CORRECT SOME OF THOSE, UH, RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE CREATED 40 YEARS AGO FOR LAKELINE MALL AND, UH, GATEWAY, WHICH HAD LARGE TRACKS.
I'M GONNA GO TO THE, UH, TO THE SITE.
SO THIS IS THE SITE WE'VE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATES SINCE SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
THEY, FIRST OF ALL, THEY TOLD US, WELL, WE'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE, UH, TOWN HOMES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EAST 16TH STREET, THE SWEET HILL NEIGHBORHOOD IS RATHER COMPACT.
SO JUST SOUTH OF THE HO THE RESTAURANT AND THE HOTEL IS A SWEET HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET, SOME OF THEM WANTED, UM, TOWN HOMES FACING THEM.
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OUR PLAN TO SAY, OKAY, WE'LL HAVE A ROW OF TOWNHOMES.SO THE, UH, THE DARK GRAY YOU SEE WILL BE TOWNHOMES FACING THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, HOMES, FACING HOMES, AND WE'VE AGREED TO LIMIT THE, THE HEIGHT FOR THOSE TOWNHOMES TO 40 FEET.
SO YOU GO 40 FEET TOWNHOMES, AND THEN THE TOWER IS TO THE, UH, CLOSER TO THE HOTEL.
SORRY, I'M SHOWING THAT BECAUSE IT'S THAT WAY, SO THAT WAY.
AND THEN, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE, THE DARK GRAY TO THE NORTH, CLOSER TO THE HOTEL IS SURROUNDED BY A LARGE HERITAGE TREE.
SO WE NEED TO OBVIOUSLY PRESERVE THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME PROTECTED TREES TO THE EAST OF THE SITE THAT WILL HAVE TO KEEP THERE, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT CREATES AN AMENITY.
AND, UH, THE SITE, BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT WITH, UM, ONE SITE PLAN.
SO THE HOTEL AND CYMAN HAVE A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO WE ARE MARRIED TOGETHER, IF YOU WILL, AS FAR AS DETENTION.
SO OUR SITE CLOSER TO THE, THE CORNER, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, YOU CAN SEE THE TREES AROUND THE BEND.
UM, THERE'S A DETENTION POND THAT SERVES THE HOTEL.
SO WE HAVE, UM, SHARED USES PARKING.
SO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE OWNER TO DO THAT.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
AND THIS IS THE, THE DRAWING OR RENDERING THEY SUPPORTED.
AND I KNOW ONE OF THEM IS HERE TO SPEAK, RIGHT? SO BASICALLY OUR ZONING REQUEST IS BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE NATURE OF THE CODE AND THE, THE L I P D A IS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE CANNOT C USE CH H P D A BECAUSE THE C H P D PART OF THE CODE REQUIRES, WE HAVE 10 ACRES.
ALL THE OTHER L I P D CASES YOU HAVE DO NOT HAVE THAT 10 REQUIREMENT.
YOUR MINIMUM SITE A REQUIREMENT IS 5,750 SQUARE FEET OF SITE AREA.
AND THEN WE GET TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOO.
ALL, AND THANK YOU MR. MR. PASCO.
AND NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM, UH, MR. BELL MINOR ON THE TELECONFERENCE.
IS MR. MINOR ON THE PHONE? OH YEAH, I SEE.
OKAY, MR. MINOR, UH, JUST, UH, PROCEEDING WITH YOUR REMARKS.
I LIVE ON 15TH STREET IN THE SWEET HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2000 AND OVER THE YEARS HAVE SERVED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD AND THE CONTACT TEAM SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, CALLING TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND TO APPLAUD THE EFFORTS TO WORK WITH THE ADJACENT AND HEREBY NEIGHBORS.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS GONNA PROVIDE A LOT OF HOUSING RIGHT WHERE IT'S NEEDED, UM, ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION LINES NEAR THE UNIVERSITY, THE HOSPITAL DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND IT PROVIDES, UH, A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES THAT WERE WORKED OUT WITH.
UH, THE NEIGHBORS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE AGENT ARE GOING WELL AND, UH, VERY ENCOURAGED BY THEIR WILLINGNESS TO STAY AT THE TABLE WITH US.
UM, SO FAR THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED PROVIDED AT LEAST 10% AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL AS THE TOWN HOMES ALONG EAST 16TH STREET, WHICH PROVIDES A MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL CONNECTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, THE TYPICAL VIEW OF A PARKING RUSH.
UH, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THE POTENTIAL AS MENTIONED OF A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OF 40 FEET IN HEIGHT.
UH, THAT WOULD BE AT A DISTANCE IS 70 FEET.
AND IT'S NOT TO PREVENT THE DEVELOPMENT FROM HAPPENING, IT'S TO ENSURE THAT THE TOWN HALLS REMAIN PART OF THE PROJECT.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE A MODEL FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, EDGES OF A PROJECT ARE WHERE SOME OF SOME CREATIVE DECISIONS CAN BE MADE.
UH, AND IN THIS CASE, BY ADDING SOME MISSING METAL HOUSING, UH, WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT AND, UH, SUPPORTING TOWN HOMES AS PART OF THE VISION.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
OUR, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, REGISTERED, UH, BUT NOT SPEAKING AS, UH, BUT ARE AVAILABLE AS RESOURCES ARE HANNAH REIMER AND MICHAEL GILBERT WILL NOW HEAR FROM THE OPPOSITION, BEGINNING WITH MR. MIKE TOLLESON.
MR. TOLLESON, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES, SELECT STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH REMARKS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS MIKE TOLLESON AND I'VE LIVED AT 1 0 0 7
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EAST 16TH STREET FOR 35 YEARS, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE ZONING APPLICATION.UH, THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE, THE SWEET HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOUNDARY, AND IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HISTORIC SWEET HILL NEIGHBORHOOD AND A ROW OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST 16TH STREET.
AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SWEET HILL NEIGHBORS AND THE 16TH STREET PROPERTY OWNERS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING CONSTRUCTION OF A CONDO TOWER ON THE DENNY SITE WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 200 FEET.
OBVIOUSLY, SUCH A STRUCTURE IS NOT REALLY COMPATIBLE WITH A HISTORIC SWEET HILL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE PROPERTY IS ALONG 16TH STREET.
UM, I AND MY NEIGHBORS ARE NOT OPPOSED TO HOUSING PER SE, AND ESPECIALLY NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, AS WE KNOW THAT ALL KNOW THIS IS A CITYWIDE PROBLEM.
UM, WE ARE NOT PARTICULARLY OPPOSED TO THE HEIGHT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
UM, UNDER, UH, CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, WE RESIDENTS AND PARTICULARLY THOSE ON THE 16TH STREET, HAVE MANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT SUCH AS TRAFFIC, PARKING, LIGHTING, GLARE FROM THE BUILDING, NOISE, AMPLIFIED MUSIC, WORKERS, PARKING, TRASH MAINTENANCE, AND MANY OTHER CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE DEVELOPER AND ARE UNDER DISCUSSION.
MOST OF THESE ARE MORE APPROPRIATE TO BE DISCUSSED AND DEALT WITH IN A PRIVATE AGREEMENT, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON.
AND I MUST SAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN, THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE AND WE HOPE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT, ALTHOUGH WE DO NOT HAVE ONE YET, IT'S IN DISCUSSION.
BUT ONE OF THE MOST CON UH, CRITICAL CONCERNS THAT FOR THE NEIGHBORS, UM, WHICH THIS COMMISSION CAN ADDRESS IS THE MITIGATION OF THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUE.
BY IMPOSING A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ON WHATEVER ZONING IS RECOMMENDED, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A UP TO 70 FOOT SETBACK BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION CAN EXCEED 140 FEET IN HEIGHT, 40 FEET, NOT 140 FEET.
A 40 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT IN THE FIRST 70 FEET, UM, FROM THE SOUTH BOUNDARY WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DRAWING OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AS WE HAVE BEEN SHOWN.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE DRAWING AND YOUR MATERIALS IN THAT WE SAW EARLIER.
UH, THIS WOULD, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT DRAWING, THEY'RE SHOWING TOWNHOUSES IN THE FIRST 36 FEET AND THEN THEY'RE SHOWING AN AMENITY DECK IN THE NEXT 30 FEET.
UM, THE AMENITY DECK THEY'RE SHOWING, UH, IS A HEIGHT OF, IN THE DRAWING A HEIGHT OF ABOUT 33 TO 35 FEET.
SO, UH, 40 FEET IN A SETBACK OF THAT DISTANCE WOULD BE CONSISTENT IN COMPATIBLE WITH THE PLANS THAT THEY'RE SHOWING US.
SUCH A CONDITION WOULD MITIGATE MANY OF THE CONCERNS BY PROVIDING RESIDENTIAL TYPE DWELLING ALONG EAST 16TH STREET SO OCCUPANTS CAN INTERACT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE TOWER.
IT WOULD ALSO GIVE US PROTECTION IN THE EVENT THAT DEVELOPERS PROJECT CHANGES SIGNIFICANTLY, OR IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD AND DEVELOPED IN SOME OTHER WAY.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE APPLICANT IS NOT THE INTENDED DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE TO WHOM WE ARE TALKING TO.
AND SO CONDITIONS, ANY CONDITIONS APPLIED TO THE PROPERTY MUST ATTACH TO THE LAND AND APPLY TO FUTURE OWNERS.
ANOTHER SERIOUS CONCERN IS THE WIDE RANGE OF USES ALLOWED UNDER THE ZONING, UM, THAT IS BEING REQUESTED.
WE APPRECIATE THE PROPOSED LIST OF PROHIBITED USES OFFERED BY THE APPLICANT AND HAVE SENT STAFF A FEW ADDITIONAL PERMITTED USES, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE PROHIBITED LIST.
I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE APPLICANT'S INTENDED USE.
WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CREATED BY THE PROJECT OF THIS SCOPE AND RELATED PARKING PROBLEMS. THIS IS WHY INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE ON I 35 AND NOT, UH, THE SERVICE ROAD AND NOT ON EAST 16TH STREET.
WE KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE CURRENT TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT ALREADY RESULT OCCUR AS A RESULT OF THE UT EVENTS.
SINCE WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE APPLICANT'S AGENT OVER TERMS OF AGREEMENT, WE ARE REQUESTING SOME ASSURANCE OF HEIGHT LIMITATIONS ALONG THAT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
SO I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO PROVIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PROTECTION BY CREATING A ZONE WITH A 40 FOOT HEIGHT ALONG THAT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR ASSURANCE THAT THE AREA ALONG THAT 16TH STREET WOULD BE RESERVED FOR TOWNHOUSES AND THE 40 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT WOULD DO THAT.
AND WITH THAT, I WOULD WITHDRAW MY OPPOSITION.
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THANK YOU.WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MS. TRACY WIDY MSTY, SELECT STAR SIX.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
I'M TRACY WHI, THE RESIDENT OF EAST 14TH STREET IN SWEET HILL.
I LIVE TWO BLOCKS FROM THE DENNY SIDE AT EAST 16TH AND 9 35.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR C H DCO.
IT ADDS VMU TO THE CURRENT ZONING AND PRESERVE MOST OF THE CURRENT USE PROHIBITION WHILE PROVIDING THE APPLICANT ITS REQUEST FOR GENERAL RETAIL AND COCKTAIL LOUNGE.
CH ZONING ALLOWS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 60 TO 120 FEET, DEPENDING ON THE DEGREE TO WHICH A PROJECT MINIMIZES IMPERVIOUS COVER.
THE LOWER THE IC, THE HIGHER SPACE MAXIMUM HEIGHT AVAILABLE.
IN CONTRAST, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A CHANGE TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT AREA TO ACHIEVE ENTITLEMENTS OF 200 FEET AND 95% IMPERVIOUS COVER, MAX HEIGHT AND MAX IC.
WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS CASE, CH H V C O WITH THE DISCUSSION FROM THE WOULDBE APPLICANT, IT'S MORE REASONABLE AND SUPPORTS THE OUTCOMES.
MOST OF US IN THE CENTRAL CITY WANT, SPECIFICALLY CH V C O INCENTIVIZES REDUCTION OF IMPERVIOUS COVER TO ACHIEVE THE SUBSTANTIAL ONE 20 FOOT BASE HEIGHT PROVISION OF ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND GROUND FLOOR PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES TO ACCESS A BONUS HEIGHT OF UP TO 30 FEET.
AND ESTABLISHMENT ABUSE IS CONDUCIVE TO LIVABILITY AND WALKABILITY FOR RESIDENTS ONSITE AND ADJACENT TO IT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, LI IS REGRESSIVE AND INAPPROPRIATE ZONING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY EAST OF THE HIGHWAY WHERE COMMUNITY LEADERS WORK FOR DECADES.
TO REMOVE IT, PDA IS THE LESSER'S SISTER TO THE PD P U D TOOL AND CARRIES NO REQUIREMENTS, NO REQUIREMENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OPEN, SAFE HERITAGE TREE PRESERVATION, WATER QUALITY CONTROL, QUALITY BUILDING DESIGN, COMMUNITY AMENITIES, OR EXPLICIT COMMUNITY BENEFITS OF ANY SORT.
PDA DOESN'T REQUIRE THOSE THINGS.
THE PDA TOOL CANNOT EVEN STIPULATE THE ENTITLEMENTS ARE EXCLUSIVELY FOR HOUSING AS OPPOSED TO A HOTEL OR OFFICE TOWER UNLESS YOU PROHIBITS THESE USES.
SETTING THIS CLERK LAUNCH PRECEDENT OPENS THE DOOR FOR PROLIFERATION OF KDA ZONING CASES ON SMALL SITES THAT WILL DERIVE HUGE BENEFITS WITHOUT ANY FORMAL MECHANISM TO ENSURE THESE DEVELOPMENT SUBSTANTIAL BACK, IT LINES UP A POTENTIAL SERIES OF MISSED OPPORTUNITIES.
IF YOU CONCLUDE THAT CH V C O IS THE BETTER ROUTE TO OPTIMIZE PUBLIC RETURNS ON ZONING POWER INVESTMENT, PLEASE ALSO CONSIDER RECOMMENDING A REASONABLE SETBACK FROM EAST 16TH STREET WHERE THE HEIGHT OF STRUCTURES CANNOT EXCEED 40 FEET.
THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR AFFORDABLE TOWN HOMES THAT PROVIDE MORE SPACE FOR FAMILIES.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND HOW IT MIGHT ACHIEVE BETTER OUTCOMES ON THIS SITE FOR THE CITY AND FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS.
WE'RE NOW HEAR FROM THIS CHRISTINE GAG.
HI, MY NAME IS CHRISTINE IAG AND I OWN THE PROPERTY ON 16TH AND WALLER, UH, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE DENNY'S.
AND I'M HERE TO REGISTER MY OPPOSITION TO CHANGING THE DENNY'S SITE TRACK TO L I PDA AND SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, AND THIS IS IN LIGHT AND THIS IS MY STATEMENT IS, UH, CONCERNING HOUSING.
AND ALEX SAID SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF ACCURATE OR NOT, SHE STATED THAT, UH, IT WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED WITH L 10% AFFORDABILITY WITH THE L I P D A AND I, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT, BUT IN ANY CASE, MY CONCERN IS, UH, REQUIREMENT OF ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AUSTIN, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
I'M SORRY, DID YOU EVERY I'M SORRY.
DID Y'ALL SAY SOMETHING? NO, PLEASE CONTINUE.
UH, IT MUST HAVE BEEN INTERFERENCE.
UM, I WANT TO DEVELOP TO PROVIDE ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, WITHOUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE REQUIRED TO.
UM, WE HAVE A CRISIS OF DO KNOW AND EVERY TOOL SHOULD BE USED TO EXPAND THE POOL.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EAST AUSTIN.
UM, ANY RESTRICTED NCES OR CONTRACT WITH NON ENTITIES OR NEIGHBORS REGARDING AFFORDABILITY CANNOT BE ENFORCED AND PLACE BE HONEST ON, UH, THE NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE DEVELOPERS HONOR THEIR COMMITMENTS.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR ANY POTENTIAL LEGAL DISPUTES WITH A DEVELOPER IF THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND.
I MEAN, AS A LONG TIME EAST RESIDENTS, WE'VE HAD MANY PROMISES FROM DEVELOPERS OVER THE YEARS, AND THOSE PROMISES HAVE NOT ALWAYS
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BEEN HONORED.UM, SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GO WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
YOU KNOW, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS.
THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, UH, OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.
UM, FURTHERMORE, I THINK THE PERCENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT ISN'T SUFFICIENT, AND I REALLY WISH THE DEVELOPER WOULD OFFER A LITTLE BIT MORE SINCE THEY'RE ASKING SO MUCH FOR US.
UM, AND IF THEY DECIDE TO GO AS C H B C O, UM, I WAS HOPING WE, THE DEVELOPER IN THE CITY WILL BE OPEN TO DISCUSSING COCKTAIL USE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, AND THAT INCLUDES OURS AND SQUARE FOOTAGE AS WELL AS THE SETBACKS.
UM, WE'LL CALL ON THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL.
COMMISSIONERS FOR MY REBUTTAL, I'M GOING TO, UH, TAKE YOU TO THE, TO THE SIDE PLAN.
OF COURSE, WE'VE CREATED, UH, TWO VERSIONS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TOWNHOMES AND THEN THEY WANTED TOWNHOME.
SO I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE CONFUSION ABOUT THE SETBACKS.
SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YES, WE HAVE, UH, MR. MR. TOLLESON, WHO'S ALSO AN ATTORNEY, UH, AND I AND OUR ATTORNEY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL WE MONTHS FOR WITH A A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.
WE HAVE A LIST OF 25 ITEMS ON THE, UH, LIST FOR RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.
UM, SO WE ST YOU KNOW, WE SENT HIM THE, UH, RRC FOR OUR ATTORNEY DRAFTED WITH ALL THE LEGALESE.
SO 25 ITEMS, SO THAT ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES IS ADDRESSED.
THEY'RE ALL IN THERE, 25 OF THEM, INCLUDING A AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LIGHTING, EVERYTHING.
SO WE'VE AGREED WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
THE 2040 FEET OF HEIGHT, WE OBVIOUSLY AGREE THAT'S HOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE CONDOMS. SO MY SUGGESTIONS BE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SUPPORT OUR, OUR REQUEST FOR L I P D A THAT YOU WOULD, UH, UM, LIMIT BUILDING HEIGHT 200 FEET EXCEPT FOR THE TOWNHOMES FACING EAST 16TH STREET, UH, WHICH WOULD BE LIMITED TO 40 FEET.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE AGREED TO BECAUSE WE DO WANNA HAVE TOWNHOMES AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT YOU REALLY DO HAVE TUNNELS.
SO WITH THE CONDITION OF OVERLOAD BY SAYING THAT YOU'RE BUILDING HEIGHT OF THE L I P D A OF 200 FEET, UH, EXCEPT FOR THE TOWNHOMES FACING E 16TH STREET WILL BE LIMITED TO 40 FEET.
NOW 70 FEET, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPHIC, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, UH, THERE'S A, A GREEN, UH, SETBACK OF SIX FEET AND THEN 30 FEET, UH, TO THE DARK AREA, AND THEN ANOTHER 30 FEET THAT INCLUDES OUR MANY ATTACK.
SO IF THEY'RE SAYING HAVE A 40 FOOT HEIGHT OF 70 FEET, THAT'S NOT WHERE THE TOWNHOMES ARE GOING.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A DEPTH, THE DEPTH OF THE TOWNHOMES FOR THE HEIGHT WOULD BE A DEPTH OF 36 FEET FOR 40 FEET.
THE AMENITY DECK COULD POSSIBLY, ONCE WE GET INTO FINAL DESIGN, MAY NOT BE HERE, WE MAY RELOCATE IT ELSEWHERE WHERE IT FACES THE HOTEL.
AND THAT MEANS THAT THE BUILDING, AND YOU CAN SEE OUR SITE IS VERY CONFINED.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT RID OF THE DECK AND IF YOU ZONE THAT 40 FEET AND WANT TO HAVE PART OF THE BUILDING, THE TOWER THERE WITH A GARAGE, THEN IT AFFECTS OUR DESIGN.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND AMEND THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, YES, 40 FEET IS FINE FOR THE TOWNHOMES FACING EAST 16TH STREET, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, LIMIT THAT DEPTH TO 36 FEET.
THAT'S THE DEPTH OF THE DARK AREA WITH THE TOWNHOMES.
SO THAT WILL PROVIDES THAT YOU REALLY, THE GOAL IS THAT THEY REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE TOWN HOMES THERE.
AND IF YOU DON'T STATE THAT, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD JUST NOT DO TOWN HOMES.
THAT'S THE GOAL FOR THAT LIMITATION.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING THE PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.
BACK TO THE AFFORDABILITY, THE, UH, COMPATIBILITY AMENDMENTS YOU, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND COUNCIL AMENDED, THEY ADDED A BONUS PROVISION.
SO UNDER THE, I'LL JUST WRAP UP IN A MINUTE.
UNDER THE BONUS PROVISION, BECAUSE WE ARE SUBJECT TO COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, WE, WE ARE, ARE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS ARE REDUCED BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY BONUSES.
IF YOU, YOU, IT ADDS ENDS AT A HUNDRED FEET, THE TRIGGERING PROPERTY YOU END AT A HUNDRED FEET.
AND THEREFORE WITH THAT, UH, BONUS, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
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THIS PROJECT WON'T WORK BECAUSE OF THE COMPATIBILITY IMPLICATION.SO THAT'S WHERE THE AFFORDABILITY COMES FROM, FROM, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU GUYS WERE AWARE OF THAT AMENDMENT.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHAY.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON THE DIAZ.
I SEE ALL GREEN ON THE SCREEN.
UM, LET'S MOVE AHEAD WITH OUR Q AND A.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION? LET GO FIRST.
OKAY, I'VE GOT, I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH, BUT, UM, SO LET'S SAY TO THE APPLICANT, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A, A LIST OF 14, UM, RESTRICTIONS AND SUCH.
I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS SHARED WITH THE COMMISSION? I MEAN, COMMITTING TO THE AFFORDABILITY AND ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT? AND I THINK, UM, AND IS THAT WHERE THE TOWNHOME HEIGHT IS? I MEAN, CUZ I HEARD SOMETHING LIKE YOU WANNA RUN, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTION, WANTING TO RUN WITH THE LAND, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT COULD BE IN A CO SO I'M CONFUSED WHERE ALL THIS STUFF IS RESIDING.
THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT GET INVOLVED WITH A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.
AND THAT'S REALLY PRI GONNA BE RIGHT.
CONTINUE TO, TO RESOLVE TO CORRECT.
FINE TUNE THE DOCUMENT BETWEEN THE TWO LAWYERS MM-HMM.
UM, SO THE NEIGHBORS HAVE 25 ITEMS. I SAY NOT 14, 2 5.
AND IT ALSO MENTIONS AFFORDABILITY.
AND WE STATE THAT AFFORDABILITY WILL BE COMP PROVIDED AS, AS REQUIRED BY CITY CODE.
SO THAT'S, OTHER THAN THAT, ALL I'M SAYING THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE COMPATIBILITY DENSITY BONUS THAT COUNCIL APPROVED, WE WILL BE REQUIRED WHEN YOU SHOW UP WITH A SITE PLAN, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEN COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS ARE TRIGGERED IF WE DON'T TAKE UP THE DENSITY BONUS.
AND PROVIDE, THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE PICK PICKED UP AT, AT THAT, AT THE TIME OF CLAN? CORRECT.
AND THEN AS FAR AS FOR THE HEIGHT STUFF, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO HERE WITH THE CONDITION OVERLAY? CORRECT.
AS I JUST STATED, YOU KNOW THAT THE, UH, BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE TOWN HOMES WILL BE 40 FEET FOR A DEPTH OF 36 FEET.
AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION CUZ, UM, LIKE THE SETBACKS YOU SHOWED, THAT IS ZERO TO 50 FEET.
WHAT IS IT? WELL, AND THE PD, WELL, WITHIN, WITHIN THE, THE SETBACK WOULD BE BECAUSE, UH, TO, TO THE BUILDING, THE LETTER THAT I HAVE PROVIDED, THOSE ARE THE SETBACKS SHOULD BE.
SO WE HAVE ARRANGED TO WORK TO WORK WITH.
AND THE REASON I, WE HAVE THAT BECAUSE THE, UM, UNDER EVEN CH YOU HAVE 50 FOOT SETBACKS.
IF YOU HAD 50 FOOT SPIRAL BACK, THEN YOU REALLY CAN'T HAVE.
THAT'S WHY THE RANGE OF ZERO TO 50, YOU KNOW, TO ALLOW THE, UM, ACCOMMODATION OF THE BUILDING.
BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSION AS FAR AS FOR WHAT? I MEAN AS FAR AS FOR THE DESIGN, THE COMPACTNESS, I MEAN, SUBSECTION, THE GRAPHIC I JUST SHOWED IS WHAT REALLY SHOWS OKAY.
THE, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.
SO, BUT, BUT THAT DOESN'T SPECIF SPECIF, LIKE THERE'S A, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A SIX FOOT SETBACK ONE PLACE, AND THEN, I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMMITTING TO OR IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE, YOU JUST, MY LETTER IN THE PD LETTER, IT SPECIFIES THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD STANDARDS.
SO IT HAS YOUR, YOUR YOUR SETBACKS AND YOUR HEIGHT AND THAT.
AND IT SAYS ZERO PROVIDING RANGE, IT STARTS FROM ZERO, WHICH WILL BE REFUNDED AT TIME OF SITE PLAN.
THE REASON IS, SAID IT THAT WAY, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER SHAY MM-HMM.
AND IT, IT ADDRESSES THE PROVISION OF A DETENTION POND THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
SO WE HAVE TO WALK AROUND THAT.
WE HAVE THE, UH, SHARED PARKING WHERE DENNY'S RESTAURANT IS THE SHARED PARKING AND DRIVEWAY.
SO ALL OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE TO BE STILL WALKED OUT AND RESOLVED TO ACCOMMODATE OUR STRUCTURE.
THAT'S WHY THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE PDA AND WORTH THE SAME WAY WITH THE C P D A THAT I HAD BEFORE.
UH, ARE STRUCTURED THAT WAY SO THAT WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DESIGN ONEAND TO WORK OUT ALL THE OTHER ITEMS. UNDERSTAND.
UM, THE EGRESS AND INGRESS FROM THE VEHICULAR PART FOR THOSE IN THE TOWER, UM, I SEE THAT IT IS FROM I 35.
AND SO WHERE, AND I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A, I MEAN IF THAT'S NOT SOMEWHERE COMMITTED, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THE PRIVATE TENINO, PRIVATE RC.
BUT AGAIN, OUR, OUR DRIVERS ARE GONNA STAY THERE.
WE REALLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS.
THEY DON'T WANT ACCESS ONTO, UH, 16TH STREET UNDER THE, UH, 1995 ZONING CASE.
THE HOTEL, THE CONDITION OVERLAY FOR THE HOTEL ONLY ALLOWS EMERGENCY ACCESS AS AN EMERGENCY GATE.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM, I GUESS THE MR. TOLLESON.
SO YOU MENTIONED THERE WERE SOME OTHER USES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE HAVE ON THE
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CO I GUESS THE PROHIBITED USES.SO WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT? I MEAN, HAS UM, THE APPLICANT BEEN AWARE OF IT? YES, I THINK SO.
THE, I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN AWARE AND I GAVE THAT LIST TO, UM, HEATHER.
WHO, UM, HAS IT? I DON'T HAVE IT HERE, BUT SHE HAS IT.
AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT IS OPEN WITH ADDING THOSE PIECES TO IT? YES.
UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW BEFORE BILLY'S COVERED OVER THERE.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTIONS.
I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME ANYWAY.
BUT IF, I MEAN, IF MITCH HAFFEN, IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF READ THOSE IN.
UM, AND IT'S IN YOUR, UH, LATE BACKUP MM-HMM.
I TO INCLUDE THESE IN, IN ANY, UH, ORDINANCE I'LL NEED RUN BY LAW DEPARTMENT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JANNI ESPINO.
I HAVE A FOLLOW UP, UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, FOLLOW UP TO COMMISSIONER SHAY'S QUESTION, UH, REGARDING, UM, OH, WELL IT WAS REGARDING THE BONUS.
SO, UM, MS. GLASGOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU THERE WOULD BE AN AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT AND THAT'S WHAT'S ALLUDED TO IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.
COVENANT RELATED TO THE BONUS.
UM, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH COMPATIBILITY, WHICH ARE THE TRIGGERING, UH, PROPERTIES THAT WE REQUIRE, UH, ON THE ZONING MAP.
DO YOU WANT ME TO SHOW YOU THE, UM, ON, ON EAST EAST SIX 16TH STREET MM-HMM.
I CAN'T ADVANCE NO, THE OTHER MATTER.
SO THE, UM, THE SF THREE, YOU CAN SEE THE SF THREE, I GUESS I CAN'T POINT, SORRY, THEY DON'T HAVE A, THERE.
I I DON'T HAVE YOUR, THERE WE GO.
OH, IT WAS PULLED UP THROUGH, SO IT'S ALL GOING CRAZY.
SO, SO THE, UH, THE SF THREE TRACT, WHICH IS TO THE EAST, IS WHAT'S WHAT TRIGGERS COMPATIBILITY, REGULAR COMPATIBILITY.
THOSE OF US ON VIRTUAL CAN'T SEE IT.
YEAH, IF OUR, IF OUR, THOSE OF US ON VIRTUAL CANNOT SEE IT, THEY PULLED IT UP FOR US, BUT THEN IT WENT AWAY.
SO ANYWAY, SO THE YELLOW MAP THAT, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
SO THE, UH, WE CAN SEE IT, THE, THE, YEAH, THE ASSESS OF THREE YELLOW ON, ON THE MAP.
THE LONG TRACK IS WHAT TRIGGERS COMPATIBILITY.
SO WITHOUT THE AMENDMENTS THAT COUNCIL APPROVED ON DECEMBER 1ST, WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OLD COMPATIBILITY.
SO THE NEW COMPATIBILITY, AND I HAVE BROUGHT THAT WITH ME HERE IN THE BONUS SECTION.
AND THAT'S, UM, IT REQUIRES THAT IT'S ON PAGE NINE, SECTION G, THAT, UH, YOU'RE, YOU ARE ON A MAJOR CORRIDOR LIKE I 35, YOUR COMPATIBILITY, IF IT'S TRIGGERED, IT ADD ENDS AT A HUNDRED FEET.
SO YOU KNOW IT, THERE WILL BE A LITTLE EFFECT, BUT NOT MUCH WOULD PROBABLY AFFECT THE DETENTION POND.
SO IT ENDS AT A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE TRIGGERING PROPERTY, GIVEN THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNDER SECTION G OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 22, 12 0 1 DASH 56, PAGE NINE OF 11.
OTHERWISE, THEN OUR PROJECT BECOMES, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE TO GET, GO FOR VARIANCE TO DO THE, OUR PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ORDER TO ONSITE AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE 10%.
SO THAT COMPATIBILITY WILL BE TRI TRIGGERED REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES CLOSEST ON 16TH ARE ALSO ALREADY ZONED.
I THINK THE WAY THE CODE GREETS, IF IT, IF IT'S ZONED, IT'S NO LONGER THE, IT'S THE USE.
SO THE S OF THREE AND, AND THE USE THE ZONING THAT WOULD TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY BY USE THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN AT THE, THE, THE, IT'S THE, THE, THE USE THE S OF THREE, NOT THE MULTI-FAMILY TRACTS.
YOU SEE, UH, AND THEN THE, SO THAT BONUS, UM, RE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT, UM, IS IT REQUIRED ONSITE? YES.
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OUR IS GONNA BE REQUIRED ON SITE AND WE WILL PROVIDE IT ONSITE.BUT IT IS THAT REQUIRED IN THE ZONING, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONLY WITH, AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN.
IT MEANS WHEN YOU GO, WHEN YOU SHOW UP IT AT TAB ON CY PLAN, THAT'S WHEN YOUR HOUSING AFFORDABLE REQUIREMENTS ARE TRIGGERED AND YOU DEMONSTRATE THAT AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT.
AND THAT'S WHEN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT GIVES US A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT ENSURES THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO IT WILL BE, IT WOULD BE ENFORCED BY THE CITY.
I THINK BEFORE I GIVE UP MY TIME, UM, OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER COX AND THEN COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
UH, FOLLOWING ON, UH, COMMISSIONER LANIS PLATO'S QUESTIONS.
WHAT, WHAT, WHERE IS THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT FOR THE REQUEST OF L I P D A M P? WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? UH, I'LL ANSWER THAT AGAIN.
IT'S, IT'S TRIGGERED UNDER THE COMPATIBILITY ORDINANCE.
THAT'S COUNCIL APPROVED DECEMBER 1ST OF LAST YEAR.
IT'S UNDER, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER COX.
ARE YOU PULLING THE ORDINANCE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THE BACKUP, BUT, BUT SO YOU'RE, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IN THE BACKUP.
IT'S NOT TO, TO GET, TO GET, TO GET THE HEIGHT THAT YOU WANT IN PROXIMITY TO THE SF HOMES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? CORRECT.
UM, SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THE L I P D A MP AND WHAT CITY STAFF IS PROPOSING? CUZ IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY, THEY'VE PROVIDED AN AVENUE TO ACHIEVE HEIGHT AND F A R WITH VM U TWO.
IT'S, IT'S THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
SO UNDER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, UNDER THE CH LET ME START OFF.
UNDER THE CURRENT ZONINGS OF C, JUST THE CH THAT WE HAVE TODAY THAT, UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, CAN GET TO, UM, NO, NO, I'M, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT STAFF IS FOR THE, UNDER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE, THE CH HV, WE, WE DO NOT GET THE HEIGHT, THE DIFFERENCE THROUGH THE HEIGHT YOU GET WITH OUR REQUEST, WE GO TO 200 FEET.
AND THEN BECAUSE OF THAT, WE GET TO ALSO AGREE TO DO THE, THE, UH, TOWN HOMES.
SO WITH THE, WITH THE HEIGHT OF 200 FEET, WITH WHAT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT WE, THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE 200 FOOT HEIGHT PROVIDED.
THE, UH, THE, THERE WERE TOWN HOMES FACING EAST 16TH STREET.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, GIVES YOU THE V V, UH, VM U ONE, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S STILL THE SAME HEIGHT AS 120 FEET.
VM U TWO COULD GIVE US ADMINISTRATIVELY ANOTHER 30 FEET.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
SO THAT'S HOW, SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE 50 AND THE 200 THAT YOU WANT? CORRECT.
UM, AND THE NUMBER UNITS FOR US WILL BE BETWEEN 220 UNITS AND 250 UNITS VERSUS, UH, WITH UNDER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU U IF WE USE THE VM U TWO, THEN WE COULD GET, UH, WE GET TO APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED AND, UM, UH, TYPE MY NUMBER HERE, ABOUT 120, UH, SEVEN UNITS OR SO, 1 26 I THINK.
AND THE 200 FEET OF HEIGHT, BASED ON YOUR LITTLE DEPICTION FROM, FROM SSTG, THAT HEIGHT IS AGAINST THE DOUBLE TREE HOTEL? CORRECT.
DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD HOW TALL THE DOUBLE TREE IS? THE DOUBLE TREE IS, UM, IT'S AT 60 FEET.
IT'S KIND OF, THEY, THEY JUST BUILT ON A 60 FEET.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET OVER THE FACT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING LIKE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS THE BASE.
IT'S ALONG I 35, WHICH IS, WELL, BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE CODE I APPLIED FOR CH HV PDAS IN THE CODE, AND IT'S THE, ACTUALLY THE CODE TELLS YOU UNDER CH H UH, V THERE'S A SECTION THAT HAS CH P D AND IT STATES THAT TO DO CH H P TOGETHER 200 FEET, YOU NEED THE PDA OVERLAY COMBINED WITH THE CH BUT YOU NEED 10 ACRES, WHEREAS THE LI PDA DOES NOT HAVE 10 ACRES.
SO IT'S REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN.
IT'S NEVER BEEN AMENDED TO, IT'S THE FIRST CH PDA REQUEST EVER IN THE CITY.
SO EVEN STAFF HAVE TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH IN CHECK WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT BECAUSE, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT AND THERE'S THAT LANGUAGE THAT YOU CAN GET AT 200 FEET, BUT YOU NEED 10 ACRES.
HENCE THE REASON WHY I HAD TO AMENDS THE TOOL THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, UH, LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE, IT'S THE SAME AS THE OTHER EIGHT L I P D CASES THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT ON YOUR AGENDA.
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THEM.I, I'LL HAVE, I'LL HAVE TO, MY BRAIN WILL HAVE TO KEEP MUNCHING ON THIS, BUT I, YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT.
YEAH, I HAD A, A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDOR.
SO HAVE YOU DONE SORT OF CALCULATIONS? WHAT, WHAT HEIGHT DO YOU THINK THAT THAT, UM, I GUESS YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING UPHILL SIGNIFICANTLY, SO I'M GUESSING IT'S SORT OF, IT'S DOWN, THE, THE CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDOR ACTED IS ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY RUN THEN IT'S, UM, UH, THE PLANE, IT'S ACTUALLY LANDS RIGHT AT E 16TH STREET.
SO IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE PLANE COMES FROM THE CEMETERY AREA.
IT'S SLICES RIGHT THROUGH, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY.
SO THE BACKUP SHOWS IT, IT DOES ON YOU, BUT IT'S, IT DOESN'T AFFECT, YEAH, IT DOESN'T AFFECT, CORRECT.
FIRST THING WE RAN LAST YEAR, ONCE WE GOT THE PROPERTY ON THE CONTRACT, ALL THE TRAPS, INCLUDING THE CAP REVIEW CARD.
I, I GUESS THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.
OKAY, OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, CHAIR SH AND THEN COMMISSIONER MOTO.
UM, SO WE SAWD THE APPLICANT SHOW SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT HAD LI P D A, UH, ZONING.
UM, AND I SEEM TO RECALL WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME RECENT ZONING CASES SIMILARLY, AND THEN WE JUST APPROVED, UH, LONG SHOLL CREEK, L I P D A NMP.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS A CHANGE IN POLICY? NO.
THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT INTO EFFECT RIGHT NOW? UM, I'M, I'M JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TAKING A LITTLE BIT CHANGED DIRECTION HERE.
UM, NO, THESE ARE VERY, VERY DIFFERENT, UH, PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, UH, PROPERTIES IN LIKE, I THINK SHE SAID FIFTH STREET, ALONG A VERY HEAVY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
UM, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN BETWEEN CEMETERY BASEBALL FIELDS, UT AND SWEET HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT REINTRODUCING ALLY INTO THIS AREA.
IT'S BEEN A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS TO NOT INTRODUCE ALLY INTO AN AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING COMPARABLE.
YES, WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF LAP PDAS LATELY, AND YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM PUD LIGHT BECAUSE YOU CAN ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY HEIGHT YOU WANT, BUT AFFORDABILITY IS NOT PART OF A PDA.
IF THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VMU AND PROVIDE UNITS, THEN THEY CAN GO HIGHER.
SO AGAIN, THE COMBINATION OF ADDING ALLY TO THE EAST SIDE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF WORKING TO REDUCE THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL CHARACTER, UM, IS SOMETHING WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH.
AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS A MECHANISM, UH, THAT WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH VMU TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT.
BUT, UM, AND I, I WANT TO DISCUSS THIS WITH HER LATER.
I DO SEE ON THAT SAME PAGE NINE, INSTEAD OF BEING UNDER G, THERE'S H UH, IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT FIEN LOU, AND I BELIEVE SHE SAID IT HAD TO BE ON SITE.
SO I'M NOT SAYING SHE'S WRONG, I'M JUST SAYING I I NOTICED THAT AND I HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT TOO.
UH, MR. TOLLESON, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE.
WE HEARD THAT THE APPLICANT WANTS THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE THAT DECK.
UH, THEY MIGHT WANNA PUT IT SOMEWHERE.
SO THEY'RE PROPOSING, I THINK I HEARD A 36 FOOT SETBACK.
UM, IF WE APPROVE A CO ARE YOU, WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE PROJECT IF WE LIMITED IT TO THAT, UH, SETBACK DISTANCE WITH THE HEIGHT LIMIT OF 40 FEET? UM, WOULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? SO YOU HEARD THE APPLICANT SAID THEY WANTED THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE THAT DECK, UH, TO PERHAPS ANOTHER LOCATION AND NOT BE, UM, HAVE THE CO FOR THE FULL 70 FEET.
UM, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT IF WE LIMIT IT TO THE, UH, THE SETBACK TO 36 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 60 OR 70? GIVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE THAT DECK TO OTHER LOCATIONS? IF IT COMES
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DOWN TO THAT, I THINK I WOULD TO GET THE TOWNHOUSES, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE BEING SHOWN A PROJECT AND A DESCRIPTION OF A PROJECT THAT SETS THE TOWER BACK ABOUT 66 FEET.AND, UH, SO, AND WE'RE, WE ARE SEEING AN AMENITY DECK BEING PROPOSED THERE.
AND THE HEIGHT WE'RE ASKING FOR DOESN'T, IN, DOESN'T, UH, CONFLICT WITH THAT.
AND WE LIKE THE IDEA OF THE TOWER BEING SET BACK THAT FAR AND, UH, IT GIVES THEM THE ROOM TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE SHOWING US.
I SUPPOSE IF WE AGREED TO THE 36, THAT THE TOWER COULD END UP BEING 36 FEET AWAY FROM THE BOUNDARY INSTEAD OF 66 FEET AWAY, WHICH WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY LESS DESIRABLE.
BUT IF IT CAME DOWN TO THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE TOWNHOUSES, WE WOULD AGREE.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, I'M DONE.
UM, THEN I HAD COMMISSIONER MOALA AND THEN COMMISSIONER ZARK.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF YOU'RE GOING OUT OF TIME ON THIS ONE.
UM, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE HERITAGE TREES ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS MIGHT BE A A, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A STAFF QUESTION OR AN APPLICANT QUESTION, UM, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO THAT ALLY PDA, ARE WE, ARE WE LOSING THE HERITAGE TREES ON THAT PROPERTY? HEATHER CHAFFIN HOUSING AND PLANNING THE TREES WOULD BE TREATED THE SAME AS FAR AS CODE REQUIREMENTS IN EITHER CASE AT, IN A TIME OF SITE PLAN.
SO THAT'S GONNA FALL UNDER SITE PLAN AND THAT SHOULD MATCH WHAT MS. GLASGOW WAS FILING.
SO, UM, I GUESS I NEED TO TRY AND SUMMARIZE A BIT, UM, BETWEEN THE APPLICANT, AND I'M SORRY I CAN'T SAY THE LAST NAME CORRECTLY, MR. MIKE, I'M SORRY.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THE BIGGEST POINT OF DISAGREEMENT AT THIS POINT IS JUST THE DISTANCE OF THE SETBACK FROM 16TH STREET.
IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, CITY STAFF, APPLICANT, AND AT LEAST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATE WERE ALL IN SUPPORT OF THE ADDITIONAL PRO, UH, PROHIBITED USES.
UM, SO I GUESS I NEED TO KNOW FROM BOTH PARTIES, ARE WE ALL AGREED ON THE PROHIBITED USES? YES OR NO? AND THEN IS OUR DISAGREEMENT AND POINT OF CONTENTION ON THAT SETBACK? SO I GUESS IT'S TO BOTH
AND MS. GLASGOW, IF YOU WANNA ANSWER FIRST ON THIS.
WELL, I, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO CALL YOU DR.
MUSH TOWER, SO I'M JUST GONNA DO THAT TO FINALLY YOUR, YOU'VE GOTTA GET RECOGNITION FOR HAVING WORKED SO HARD TO GET YOU YOUR PHD AND YOUR MD.
SO, UH, YES, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT IN ALL THE PROHIBITED USES.
SO THE LETTER THAT, UM, HEATHER ADDED TO YOUR BACKUP HAS A LIST OF 44 0 40 PROHIBITED USES IN MY LETTER.
AND MR. TOLLESON, UM, DURING OUR ONGOING DIALOGUE, UH, SENT US A LIST OF ADDITIONAL USES THAT MS. CHAFF JUST READ.
AND WE, IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL PROHIBITED USES.
SO IT'S REALLY BACK TO THE SETBACK OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE 40 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE TOWN HOMES THAT'S 36 FEET VERSUS ACTUALLY 70 FEET IS BEYOND THE, OUR, OUR MEASUREMENT IS, YOU KNOW, 36 FEET FOR THE TOWN HOMES AND ANOTHER 30 FEET FOR THE AMENITY DECK, WHICH, YOU KNOW, COULD BE RELOCATED ELSEWHERE AND, AND PROVIDE FOR MORE DESIGN FLEXIBILITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN AWKWARDLY SHAPED SITE, SO IT'S REALLY LOOKING FOR FLEXIBILITY THAT IF YOU, IF YOU, UH, EXTENDED THE 40 FOOT HEIGHT TO THE ENTIRE AREA THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, THEN SOMETHING CHANGES, THEN WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND PAY.
BY THE WAY, THE PD FEES ARE $60,000, UH, SO THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT AN, AN INEXPENSIVE, UH, APPLICATION AS COMPARED TO A REGULAR ZONING CASE OF ABOUT $11,000.
SO THAT'S PRETTY WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE FLEXIBILITY AND, AND WITHIN OUR RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE, THEY DO, UH, STATE THAT, UM, ANY CHANGES WE MAKE TO THE, UH, TO THE CONCEPT THAT WE'LL STILL HAVE TO VISIT, COME BACK AND MEET WITH THEM TO PURSUE ANY CHANGES.
SO I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THE 25 CONDITIONS OR RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS PRIVATE COVENANT THAT CAPTURES JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.
AND THEN I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MS. CHAFFIN ON THE, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE SF THREE THAT'S NEARBY BECOMES THE TRIGGERING PROPERTY ON THAT CORRIDOR.
AND SO IF THEY WANT TO GET ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, THAT'S WHERE THE AFFORDABILITY PIECE WOULD COME IN.
OH, YOU SAID YOU HAD TO CHECK ON THAT? YEAH, CORRECT.
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I THINK I NEED TO NOTE A LITTLE BIT AND I'LL ELSE GO.I HAVE COMMISSIONER AZAR AND THEN COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, AND THEN WE'RE AT R EIGHT.
MRT, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, FOR THE BACKUP LETTER THAT YOU SHARED WITH US, WHEN WAS THE CORRECT ONE POSTED TO THE BACKUP? UM, THE CORRECT ONE I EMAILED.
IT HAS, IT WASN'T POSTED TO THE BACKUP.
IT WASN'T POSTED TO THE BACKUP? CORRECT.
THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW.
UM, AND CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, SO IF, IF INDEED WE HAD GONE, GONE DOWN THE PDA ROUTE, AND I KNOW IT'S A WHOLE OTHER CONVERSATION, IF WE HAD GONE DOWN THE P ROUTE, HOW WOULD SOMETHING LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BE CAPTURED IN THAT SCENARIO WITH JUST, I PDA IT WOULD NOT BE CAPTURED WITH CITI.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITH PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE CABINET, ANY CITY ENFORCEABLE.
UH, AND HOPE SOMEBODY CORRECTS ME IF I'M WRONG.
UM, ANY CITY ENFORCEABLE WOULD HAVE TO BE THROUGH THE USE OF THAT CORRIDOR.
OH, AND, AND THE COMPATIBILITY OR, RIGHT, BUT OKAY, I'M SORRY.
BUT COMPATIBILITY DOES NOT REQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I, I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
UM, IT IS FROM THE CORRIDOR ORDINANCE THAT IT WOULD BE ENFORCED.
AND IF YOU BUT IT WITH L I P D A, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO USE THE CORRIDOR ORDINANCE.
AND WOULD THERE, IF WE WERE TO DO, LET'S SAY, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN, WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION, BUT IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO CH B D A, WOULD IT BE THE SAME ANSWER IF WE WOULD STILL BE RELYING ON I BELIEVE SO.
UM, I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
UM, AND I JUST HAVE A THANK YOU, THAT'S HELPFUL.
MS. GLASGOW, IF YOU CAN HELP ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME.
UM, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, THE 36 FEET DEPTH OFF THAT 40 FEET HEIGHT OF DOWN HOME, ARE WE SEEING 30, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 36 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? NOT FROM THE TRIGGERING PROPERTIES? NO, NO, NO.
SO IT WOULD BE FROM, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, OUR PROPERTY LINE.
SO, WHICH IS THE, FROM EAST OF 16TH STREET INWARD FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE.
SO IT'S ALWAYS MEASURED FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE.
AND CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED US THROUGH THIS, BUT CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO SORT OF YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE AFFORDABILITY PIECE AGAIN, RIGHT.
WE KNOW THAT IF WE USE THE C R OVERLAY, IT ESSENTIALLY WOULD ONLY BE AT SITE PLAN.
NOW OF COURSE, THERE'S A TECHNICALITY THERE WHERE YOU CAN OPT TO KEEP COMPATIBILITY AND NOT GO THROUGH THAT.
OF COURSE, THERE'S IMPACTS TO THE PROJECT THAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO YOUR OWN COMMITMENTS OR YOUR, THE APPLICANT'S COMMITMENTS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PIECE? WELL, WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ONSITE, AND WE WERE, WE WERE THRILLED TO HAVE HAD THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE ORDINANCE THAT RELATE REALLY TO THE, WELL IT'S CALLED CORRIDOR.
I CALL IT THE CAUSE IT AMENDED COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS TO ALLOW TO REDUCE THEM.
THAT'S WHY I CALL IT THE COMPATIBILITY ORDINANCE, UH, AMENDMENT.
UH, BUT TO ME, THE, THE FEE AND LOSE JUST SEEMS THAT DIRECTOR HAS TO DECIDE, IT SEEMS LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON SITE IS, IS CLEAR AND THE OTHER WE, WE, WE NEED TO COMMIT TO IT, ONE OR THE OTHER, WE'LL COMMIT IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE CAN'T BUILD A PROJECT BECAUSE THE REGULAR COMPATIBILITY CENTERS WILL KICK IN IF WE DON'T USE THE BONUS PROVISION.
YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE WILLING TO, TO EITHER ENTER INTO A PRIVATE COVENANT, OTHERS, WE END UP, MY FEAR IS THAT YOU END UP HAVING TWO DOCUMENTS, ONE THE CITY'S GONNA REQUIRE.
SO WHATEVER IT TAKES, WHATEVER TO CONVINCE EVERYONE THAT THERE WILL BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE DO GET A, A BONUS UNDER THE, UH MM-HMM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE I CAN STATE THAT.
BUT AGAIN, WE'LL, WELCOME WITH MR. TOLLESON IN THE COVENANT TO, UH, THAT'S HELPFUL.
AND JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO DO AN AGREEMENT THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT YOU'RE HAVING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COULD YOU GIVE US JUST AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED JUST TO INFORM THE DISCUSSION HERE? WELL, ACTUALLY, EVERYTHING MR. TOLLESON READ TO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS I REALLY, THAT ARE COVERED IN YOUR SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, YOU UNDER COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS THAT RELATE TO SCREENING AND HOOTING OF LIGHTING AND, AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
AND WE ARE SENSITIVE TO THAT BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS.
SO WE ARE SO, UM, YOU, YOU'RE LIGHTING, UH, STREET PARKING, YOU KNOW, HAVING, YOU KNOW, UM, STREET CALMING MEASURES.
UM, WHAT ELSE? AND IT'S OKAY, I KNOW I'M ASKING OFF THE TOP OF THE HEAD, 24 ITEMS ARE A LOT TO REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SENSE OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT.
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YOU.I'M, I'M RUNNING OUTTA TIME HERE.
MS. SHK, DID YOU WANT I HAVE 20 SECONDS, OR, OR I DIDN'T RUNNING OUT.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT L I P D A WOULD GRANT THE 200 FOOT HEIGHT AND THOSE EXPANDED SETBACKS.
IT DOES NOT REQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SHE IS, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING HER CLIENT WITH A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO IF THIS ZONING WAS ADDED IN.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO INFORMATION.
I ALSO WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE HEIGHT, UH, ISSUE BETWEEN, UH, MR. TOLIVER AND, UM, MS. GLASGOW'S CLIENT IS THERE ARE, AND I OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPRESSED OTHER CONCERNS, NOT JUST THAT 40 FOOT SECTION.
UM, UH, I THINK INITIALLY JUST FOR MS. CHAFFIN, UM, SO JU JUST BACK TO THE, THE ALLY ISSUE, UH, ARE WE ESSENTIALLY, UH, BEING ASKED BY THE APPLICANT TO APPROVE ALLY AND THEN PROHIBIT ALL OF THE LI ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE UNDER ALLY? I'D SAY THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SUMMARY OF IT.
UM, ARE WE MISSING SOME IF, UH, THIS APPLICANT FOR SOME REASON DIDN'T PURSUE THE PROJECT AND SOMEONE ELSE BEGIN THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT? ARE THERE, UH, INDUSTRIAL APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MISSED OR ARE WE SURE WE'VE GOT 'EM ALL? UM, WE'RE NOT CERTAIN WE GOT 'EM ALL, BUT, UM, PRETTY OPTIMISTIC.
AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT MS. GLASGOW'S CLIENT WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOP IN ANYTHING INDUSTRIAL THAT, THAT WE MISSED OR THEY MISSED.
SO, UM, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT UH, STAFF IS PROPOSING AND LI UM, IN BOTH CASES THERE ARE HEIGHT LIMITS, THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
UH, IN BOTH CASES THERE ARE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES.
UH, BUT IN ORDER TO GET TO 200 FEET OR CLOSE TO 200 FEET IN HEIGHT UNDER THE ALLY PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO TRY TO DO VMU ONE, AND IN ORDER TO GET TO 150 AND CHANGE FEET, THEY'D HAVE TO GO TO VMU TWO.
IS THAT FAIR? SO I, I THINK THAT'S A MIX OF THE TWO WITH L I P D A.
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING AFFORDABLE.
THEY CAN CHOOSE TO OPT INTO THE C R AND THEN DEAL WITH THAT STUFF.
UM, FOR C H V, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO UP TO ONE 20 AND THEN UTILIZING VM U TWO AN ADDITIONAL 30 FEET.
SO GETTING TO ONE 50 AND, AND IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? SO IF THEY WERE TO USE ALLY AND, UM, TRY TO ADDRESS SOME COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS IN THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY CHOOSE TO, UH, USE, UH, COMPATIBILITY WAIVER, THAT REQUIRES A A 10%, UH, AFFORDABILITY SET ASIDE.
I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO ALICE ON THAT.
AND IS THERE, UH, IS THERE A SIMILAR PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENT REQUIRED BY VMU TWO UNDER THE STAFF'S PROPOSAL? YES.
IF THEY WERE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, I, I DON'T HAVE THE PERCENTAGES.
UH, AGAIN, I JUST, I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THE C R ORDINANCE.
I KNOW THAT VMU, UH, WOULD BE, WELL, I KNOW VMU, I DON'T, I I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN VMU TWO OR THE C R, UM, I'D HAVE TO PULL ALL THREE OF THEM NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
DID, DID, DID, DID, DID THAT GET APPROVED FOR 12% OR AM I MISREMEMBERING? I CAN'T ANSWER.
I THINK ALICE HAS
UM, PERHAPS MS. LASKO WOULD BE BETTER.
SO, SO THE, UH, THE, THE VM CH THE VM U TWO, UH, REQUIRES, UH, GIVES YOU AN ADDITIONAL 30 FEET IN HEIGHT, WHATEVER, BASED ON YOU ARE, YOU HAVE, AND THEN YOU, THE, THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT IS 12% AT, AT 60% MFI OR 80% DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S RENTAL OR, OR, OR, OR FOR SALE.
SO THE, THE DIFFERENCE IS THE VM
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U ONE IS 10% MFI 10% OF, OF 60% MFI FOR RENT, 80% FOR FOR SALE.AND THEN VMU TWO 12% OF THE UNITS WILL BE AT 60 OR 80 MFI.
AND THEN, AND SO, AND PRESUMABLY YOUR, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
THE COMPATIBILITY, THE ONE, THE, THE CORRIDOR AMENDMENT, THE CALL COMPATIBILITY AMENDMENT GIVES YOU THE DENSITY BONUS BY REDUCING THE EFFECT OF COMPATIBILITY, IT'S, UH, 10% AT 60 OR 80% MFI.
SO, UH, UN SO, BUT YOU GET MORE UNITS.
YEAH, IT'S THE COMPATIBILITY, UH, PERVI, UH, WAIVERS UNDER ALLY THAT GIVE YOU 200 FEET AND GIVE AFFORDABLE UNITS OF 10% VERSUS PLAN VM U, WHICH UNDER THE STATS PROPOSAL, WHICH YOU TOOK FULL ADVANTAGE OF IT AND USE VMU TWO, THERE'D BE 12% OF THE UNITS, BUT YOUR HEIGHT WOULD BE LIMITED TO 150 OR 50 SOMETHING.
AND OF COURSE, WITH OUR 200 FEET, WE GET TWO MORE, MORE MORE HOUSING.
SO THE MORE UNITS YOU HAVE, YOU BUILD, THE MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS YOU END UP GETTING FROM THE PROJECT.
AND HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU CALCULATED OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN TOTAL UNITS IS BETWEEN IF YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF VM U TWO UNDER STAFF'S PROPOSAL VERSUS YES.
TAKE YEAH, THE DIFFERENCE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, UN UNDER THE BETWEEN 10 AND, UM, 12 UNITS.
SO UNDER THE, UM, UH, IF, IF WE WERE TO USE THE VM U TWO, UH, YOU, YOU GET, UM, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED AND, UM, 27 UNITS, WE GET 220 TO 2050 UNITS IN OUR CASE.
SO THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN, UH, 127 VERSUS TWO 50 OF HUNDRED UNITS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR SITE UNDER OUR L LAP.
P D A YOU, YOU'RE COMMISSIONER STEINER, YOU, YOU, YOU CAN, SORRY, DID YOU DOUBLE THAT? UM, OH, SORRY.
I'M SAYING ONE FINAL FOLLOW UP DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF UNITS WITH LI VERSUS THE VMU TWO.
THE ALL, IF YOU GET CLEAN UP IN HEIGHT, IT'S THE HEIGHT THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE MORE UNITS.
WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR QUESTIONS.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION COMMISSIONER, ZA CHAIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE AND I CAN SPEAK TO THAT MOTION.
SECOND, UH, SECOND COMMISSION.
I, I JUST WANNA SPEAK, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A PRETTY COMPLEX CASE AND I THINK WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS.
I KNOW I WOULD DEEPLY BENEFIT IF I COULD HAVE SOME MORE Q AND A WITH STAFF.
I THINK THE BACKUP DIDN'T FULLY CAPTURE THE NUANCE AND THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS CASE, TO BE HONEST.
AND I THINK WE NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO AND PUT IN SOME QUESTION AND ANSWER, AND I MIGHT EVEN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF JUST TO GUIDE ME A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND TO SEE WHAT IS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND I, I, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A PLUG.
I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE THAT CORRECT BACKUP UP ON THE BACKUP.
SO JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THE SAME THING CORRECTLY, EVEN IF THEY'RE FOLLOWING AT HOME, I, I THINK IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE.
AND TO CLARIFY, WHAT DATE ARE YOU PRO ARE YOU PROPOSING, UM, ANOTHER TWO WEEKS.
SO TO OUR NEXT MEETING, I WILL POST, MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST POSTPONEMENT? COMMISSIONER JANNIS POLITO? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD.
I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY, UM, A REALLY IMPORTANT CASE IN FRONT OF US, UM, ESPECIALLY JUST GIVEN THE HISTORY AND THE OPPORTUNITY, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THIS ONE.
ANYBODY SPEAKING FOR THE POSTPONEMENT? UH, COMMISSIONER COX? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I, I DON'T THINK I'M THERE WITH SUPPORTING ALLY AND, AND I'M SUPPORTING THE POSTPONEMENT MAYBE FROM A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ANGLE THAT, UH, YES, I DO WANNA UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS CASE A BIT MORE, BUT I ALSO WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO EXPLORE OTHER ZONING OPTIONS THAT DON'T INCLUDE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS THE BASE, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK, I THINK THAT THIS IS AN UNINTENDED BACKDOOR TO ACHIEVE SOMETHING THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT INTENDED UNDER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL
AND I JUST AM NOT COMFORTABLE INTRODUCING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN THIS LOCATION.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING POSTPONEMENT AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT
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WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER AVENUE TO ACHIEVE, UH, THE DESIRED RESULT.ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, CAN, CAN WE ASK THE APPLICANT WHETHER THEY SUPPORT A POSTPONEMENT AND WHETHER THEY THINK THAT, UH, TWO WEEKS IS GONNA BE PRODUCTIVE USE OF FINDING OTHER, UH, OTHER POSSIBLE ZONINGS TO GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO BE? I, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO, UH, CHANGE ANYTHING.
I MEAN, THIS IS, I, BEFORE I FILE THE ZONING CHANGE, I, I CONTACTED STAFF AND THEY BACK TOLD ME C H V P D A WAS, OKAY, I, SECOND TIME I FILED THAT AND THEN THEY CHECKED AGAIN WITH THE ATTORNEY.
SO UP TO TWO INQUIRIES, I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS OKAY, AND THEN IT WAS NOT.
SO I WAS GIVEN THE OPTION WAS TO APPLY TO USE THE I P D A, LIKE YOU HAVE ON THE OTHER CASES ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, BECAUSE THE PD ALLOWS YOU TO, TO PROHIBIT ALL, ALL INDUSTRIAL USES AND KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE, UM, HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL OR MISUSE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT, UM, RESIDENTIAL INDUSTRIAL USES RATHER.
AND, UM, OTHER THAN DOING A P U D, THAT'S REALLY THE OTHER OPTION.
THAT'S JUST ANOTHER EXPENSIVE PROCESS.
UH, THAT, UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE OPTION.
I THINK MAYBE WE JUST PROCEED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, LET THE CITY COUNCIL HOPEFULLY, UH, WEIGH IN AND SEE, UH, WHAT THEY WANNA DO IT.
IN THAT CASE, I'M, I'M AGAINST POSTPONING.
ANYBODY SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST MR. ANDERSON BRIEFLY SPEAK? FOUR.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A CHANCE TO LOOK INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND JUST SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND MAYBE PUT OUR HEADS TO THIS.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING TO DO HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF HOUSING UNITS ARE ON THE TABLE AND I HATE TO JUST WIPE THEM AWAY BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING A CERTAIN TOOL OR THERE'S A CERTAIN LINE IN CODE.
SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF LOOKING INTO THIS FURTHER.
SO MANY FEET SPEAKING AGAINST.
OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.
UM, THIS IS FOR POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 14TH, OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ZA, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOALA ON THE DIAS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONEMENT THREE.
AND ON THE SCREEN, THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONEMENT, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ON THE DIAS, THOSE AGAINST COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, CHAIR HEMPLE, AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN COMMISSIONER GIANNIS POLITO VOTING AGAINST.
SO THAT PASSES EIGHT TO THREE CHAIR.
MIKE, MIGHT I JUST MAKE A REQUEST FOR MS. KLASKO? MS. GLASGOW, COULD YOU SHARE YOUR PRESENTATION WITH US VIA EMAIL? I THINK THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I COULD REVIEW IT IN MY OWN TIME.
OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 33.
[33. Rezoning: C14-2022-0203 - Riverside and Vargas; District 3 (Part 2 of 2)]
THIS IS THE RIVERSIDE AND VARGAS CASE.MS. ESTRADA? YES, GOOD EVENING.
I'M NANCY ESTRADA WITH HOUSING AND PLANNING.
THIS IS ITEM 33 ON YOUR AGENDA.
CASE NUMBER C 14 20 22 0 2 0 3.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 66 10 EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED E R C CORRIDOR MIXED USE SUBDISTRICT AND E R C NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE SUBDISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING E R C CORRIDOR MIXED USE SUBDISTRICT.
AND TO AMEND THE E R C HUB MAP TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE LOT IN THE HUB BOUNDARY, THE ERC HEIGHT MAP TO DESIGNATE THE ENTIRE LOT AT 60 FEET FOR AN ALLOWABLE HEIGHT AND THE ERC DEVELOPMENT BONUS HEIGHT MAP TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT UP TO 120 FEET THROUGH PARTICIPATION IN A DENSITY BONUS PRO PROGRAM.
THE 6.44 ACRE LOT IS UNDEVELOPED AND LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE BETWEEN VARGAS ROAD AND LAWRENCE STREET.
THE PROPERTY HAS A DEPTH OF APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET ON VARGAS ROAD.
APPROXIMATELY 60% OF THE PROPERTY'S DEPTH CLOSEST TO EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS WITHIN THE C M U SUBDISTRICT AND IS PERMITTED TO CONSTRUCT BUILDINGS UP TO 60 FEET IN HEIGHT.
WITH A BASE F A R OF TWO TO ONE, THE REMAINING 40% ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE NMU SUBDISTRICT AND IS PERMITTED TO CONSTRUCT BUILDINGS UP TO 50 FEET IN HEIGHT WITH A BASE F A R OF ONE TO ONE.
THE, THE HUB BOUNDARIES CONSISTENT WITH THE CMU SUBDISTRICT.
THUS, APPROXIMATELY 60% OF THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE HUB AND
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THE REMAINING 40% IS OUTSIDE OF THE HUB.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY TO THE E R C CM U SUBDISTRICT.
THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED WITH 95 LIVE WORK UNITS, 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF AMENITIES AND 600 MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCES, INCLUDING APPROXIMATELY 300 AFFORDABLE UNITS, AND PROVIDE A UNIFIED SET OF SUB OF SUB-DISTRICT REGULATIONS.
THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED AS A SMART HOUSING PROJECT WITH APPROXIMATELY 50% OF THE UNITS WILL BE AFFORDABLE AT THE 60% AND 80% OF REGIONAL MEDIUM FAMILY INCOME.
THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT E R C C M U DISTRICT ZONING AND TO GRANT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
IT'S, UH, WE'RE HERE FROM YES, THE APPLICANT.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS.
I WAS OUTSIDE ALL DAY SUNDAY AND I FEEL LIKE TEXAS WEATHER JUST SMACKED ME IN THE FACE.
SO, UM, APOLOGIZE IF I HAVE TO STEP AWAY FOR A MOMENT.
STAFF REALLY COVERED THE MAJORITY OF THIS.
UM, THIS IS REALLY A, A KIND OF A CLEANUP.
WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF EARLY ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE LINE WAS, UM, AND NO ONE COULD TELL US.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT STARTED THE APPLICATION TO, TO MAKE THIS ONE UNIFIED ZONING DISTRICT.
I CAN ALSO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION.
I, I, I THINK WE WOULD LIKE A PRESENTATION.
LET'S SEE IF THIS WILL, CAN I GET THE NEXT SLIDE? THIS ONE'S NOT WANTING TO LIKE ME.
UM, SO THIS IS THE, THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT, UM, RIVERSIDE IN VARGAS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF RIVERSIDE.
THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THIS IS THE, UM, THE IDEA PUBLIC SCHOOL OR THE IDEA SCHOOL ON THE EAST.
WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND TOWNHOUSES ON THE WEST WE HAVE THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THE PROPERTY IN TOTAL IS THE 6.443 ACRES.
IT IS UNDEVELOPED AS IT SITS TODAY.
AS STAFF MENTIONED, IT DOES HAVE THE SPLIT ZONING BETWEEN THE E R C, UM, C M U AND THE ERC IN M U THAT'S A REAL TONGUE TWISTER.
IF YOU SAY IT ENOUGH TIMES OUT LOUD, THE I'M WITH YOU.
SO THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT OF THIS SHOWS WHERE THE ZONING DISTRICT SIT TODAY, SO THE SOUTH PORTION THAT SITS AT RIVERSIDE, UH, IS THE E R C CORRIDOR MIXED USE WITH THE NORTH PART BEING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AGAIN, UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY, WE REACHED OUT TO THE HOUSING AND PLANNING STAFF TRYING TO, UH, AND REALLY NOT THE ZONING STAFF, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING STAFF THAT DID THE ORIGINAL EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE WAS A, HOW DO WE DEFINE THE LINE, RIGHT? IS IT, IS IT N GIS, WAS IT EVER DONE WITH MEETS AND BOUNDS? IS THERE A REASON THAT IT WAS THERE? AND, UH, AND THE REALITY WAS AT THE TIME IT WASN'T.
SO THIS IS ONE PROPERTY, IT'S NOT TWO PROPERTIES WITH SPLIT ZONING.
IT NO ONE COULD GOING BACK PRETTY FAR, NO ONE COULD GIVE US A REASON WHY THE LINE ENDED UP WHERE IT WAS.
IT WAS ALSO BEFORE THE SCHOOL WAS DONE TO THE NORTH, BEFORE THAT ROAD EXISTED THERE.
SO THE GUESS WAS LIKELY THAT THE, THE ROAD WOULD PROBABLY COME IN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH.
BUT AGAIN, NO ONE COULD GIVE US A, A REAL ANSWER ON WHY THAT WAS THERE.
WITH THAT, THERE IS NO FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT BEING REQUESTED.
THIS IS ALL PART OF THE, UM, ALL PART OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF THE SPECIFIC REGULATING DISTRICT.
THE MAP ON THE LEFT AGAIN INDICATES WHERE THE HUB BOUNDARIES ARE TODAY.
AGAIN, THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC REASON ON WHY THE HUB BOUNDARY DID NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY AND WHY IT WAS, UM, PARTIALLY THROUGH THE SITE.
UH, SO OUR REQUEST IS TO AMEND BOTH THE ZONING DESIGNATION AND THE HUB BOUNDARY SO THAT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY CAN HAVE A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT DESIGNATION SINCE IT WILL BE DEVELOPED AS ONE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
SINCE IT IS ONE LOT THE, THESE SHOW THE ADDITIONAL MAPS THAT WERE PART OF YOUR BACKUP.
THE, AGAIN, THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE BASE DISTRICT HEIGHT, AND THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS THE BONUS AREA HEIGHTS.
UM, AGAIN, WE, WE ASKED THE QUESTION MULTIPLE TIMES ON THE LINE AND WE'RE NOT, UM, GIVEN A SPECIFIC ANSWER.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROPERTY, UH, AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
SO THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE A SMART HOUSING PROJECT.
THE APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH HAKA AS PART OF OUR ORIGINAL APPLICATION.
WE DID INDICATE THAT THIS PROPERTY WILL HAVE, UM, A MINIMUM OF 50% OF THE UNITS AS AFFORDABLE UNITS AT A MINIMUM OF 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
THAT THE EXISTING PROPOSED PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY 600 UNITS, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN APPROXIMATELY 300 ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS FOR FAMILIES EARNING UNDER 80% MEDIAN
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FAMILY INCOME.AS PART OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY DID ASK US IF THERE WAS ANY WAY FOR US TO INCREASE THOSE LEVELS.
SO THE REALLY THE MOST RECENT CONVERSATIONS, UH, THEY ASKED US TO GO BACK TO HAKA AND ASK THAT QUESTION.
WE DID RECEIVE WORD FROM HAKA, UH, LATE, LATE LAST WEEK, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, 10% OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS AT 60% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
SO AGAIN, 50% OF THE TOTAL UNITS, UM, BELOW 80 WAS 10% OF THOSE BELOW 60, UH, WE DID, DID PUT THAT, UH, IN WRITING BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS.
JUST SO THAT THAT IS ON THE RECORD, THE PROJECT DOES HAVE SOME INTERESTING EASEMENTS, ET CETERA, AND, AND IT REALLY HAS THREE ROADS, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO THERE IS ANTICIPATED TO BE SOME POCKETS, PARKS, UH, POCKET SPAR, PARKS ON SITE, SOME OPEN SPACE.
AGAIN, REALLY IN A GREAT LOCATION FOR THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT WITH, UH, AMAZING ACCESS TO TRANSIT.
AND WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO, UH, PAUSE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AND WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS, CORRECT? MR. RIVERA CHAIR COMMISSION LACE ON ANDREA? THAT'S CORRECT.
I DON'T THINK YOUR MICROPHONE WAS ON, BUT I HEARD YOU NO SPEAKERS.
DO YOU WANT YOUR THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL TIME? NO, THANK YOU.
UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? YEP.
UH, COMMISSIONER ZA, SECONDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.
WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO OUR Q AND A COMMISSION.
THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME YOUR GREEN.
UM, ON, ON SCREEN, COMMISSIONER MOSH TALLER.
WE CAN MOVE INTO OUR Q AND A, UH, FIRST ONE WITH A QUESTION, MR. POLITO.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY ON THE AFFORDABILITY LEVELS BECAUSE THE, UM, I, I, YOU MENTIONED, UM, THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SENT TO THE COMMUNITY THIS MORNING OR TODAY, I GUESS YOU ALL WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH, WITH, UM, A NEGOTIATION, CORRECT, MS. WARD.
SO WHAT WAS THE FINAL NUMBER OF UNITS OR YOU GAVE PERCENTAGES, AND I GUESS I DON'T MEAN TO, DO YOU MAKE YOU DO MATH RIGHT NOW, BUT NO, THAT'S, I'M GETTING DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES.
IS IT, SO 50% OF THE UNITS BELOW 80% MEN, M F I, AND THEN 10% AT 60% M F I, IT IS VERY CONFUSING.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY.
SO WE HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THE NUMBERS FOR SEVERAL WEEKS WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES.
SO OUR INITIAL SUBMITTAL WAS 50% OF THE TOTAL UNITS, AND WE'VE STAYED WITH PERCENTAGES IN CASE THE PROJECT HAPPENS IN TWO PHASES, WHICH IS, IS POSSIBLE THAT WAY WE'RE NOT IN A, IN A POSITION OF DEFAULT.
SO 50% OF THE UNITS WOULD BE AT A MINIMUM OF 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
AND THEN OF THAT YOU SAY MINIMUM, I'M SORRY, 80% MFI, SO UP TO 80% MFI.
AND THEN WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE SOME COMMITMENTS TO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BELOW 80%.
AND IN TALKING WITH HAWK, AND THE REASON IT'S A LITTLE BIT ABUSING, SO THEY COULD, THEY HAVE SAID WE COULD COMMIT TO 10% OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS.
WHAT THAT EQUATES TO IS 5% OF THE TOTAL UNITS.
SO F AND SO WHEN YOU SAY 80, IT'S A MAXIMUM M F I OF 80% UP TWO? YES, MA'AM.
SO YES MA'AM, 50% OF UNITS AT A MAXIMUM M F I OF 80% AND 10% OF THOSE AT 60.
SO 5% UNITS AT 60% M F I, 40%, OR SORRY, 45, YEAH, 40, 45%, UH, UP TO 80% M F I AND THE REST AT MARKET? YES, MA'AM.
I'VE CONFUSED MYSELF THOROUGHLY RUNNING THROUGH THIS ENOUGH TIMES, BUT YES, MA'AM,
THE LAST CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WAS GET LOWER, THAT 80% DIDN'T NECESSARILY SERVE THE METROPOLIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO THEY SPECIFICALLY ASKED US TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH HAKA, WHICH WE DID.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME BACK AND HAD THE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS OVER THE WEEKEND AND YESTERDAY.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE, UH, 80% DOESN'T JUST NEC NOT NECESSARILY 60% DOESN'T EVEN REALLY MEET COMMUNITY NEED IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT LOW INCOMES WITHIN MONOPOLI, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF GETTING DEEPER AFFORDABILITY, ESPECIALLY USING ANY KIND OF OTHER SUPPORT FROM HAKA OR ELSEWHERE TO GET DOWN BELOW 60%? M F I? THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE HAPPENED RECENTLY, AND MY ANSWER HAS BEEN, I, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY NO, BUT
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I KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS IS, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ADDITIONAL BOND MONEY, ET CETERA THAT COULD BE, UM, GONE INTO THESE, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT HAKA HAS THAT WE COULD UTILIZE? WE, THE COMMITMENT THAT WE GOT FROM HAKA WAS THE 60%, BUT WE'RE ABLE AND WILLING TO HAVE THOSE IN ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS.
BUT I, I CAN'T COMMIT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO, BUT I CAN COMMIT THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL MM-HMM.
DID THAT ARISE IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS? IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN OUR CONVERSATION COMMUNITY OR HOUSING OR ANYONE? NOT TO ME.
UH, I'M MY CLIENT HERE THAT CAN BRING THAT UP.
THIS IS AN UNDEVELOPED SITE, SO THERE IS NO DISPLACEMENT IN AN AREA THAT TENDS TO HAVE A LOT OF DISPLACEMENT.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S ABLE TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT HOUSING, UH, WITHOUT DISPLACING ANYBODY.
SO THAT THAT WOULD, YEAH, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PHYSICAL DISPLACEMENT.
BUT I THINK THE PATTERNS OF DEVELOPMENT WE'RE SEEING IN MONOPOLI HAVE A DIFFERENT IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE, ON THE LAND VALUES ON THE PEOPLE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST RAPIDLY CHANGING AREAS IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT OF HAVING A LOT MORE HIGH INCOME PEOPLE WHO SUDDENLY LIVE IN AN AREA AND NO ACTUAL ADDITIONAL HOUSING TO OFFSET THAT PRESSURE THAT'S MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY AT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I, UM, ASK THAT QUESTION.
BUT I, UM, I DID HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION.
SO THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SENT, DOES IT ARTICULATE, I, I SAW, WAS IT INCOME TARGETING? MAYBE YOU COULD SHARE WITH ME IS, IS THE INCOME TARGETING LANGUAGE AROUND DEEPER AFFORDABILITY THEN NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M FOLLOWING YOUR QUESTION.
CAN YOU ASK IT TO ME MORE AND, OKAY.
IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY, I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION CUZ YOU, YOU'VE TOLD ME WHAT THE ACTUAL UNITS ARE THAT ARE IN INTENDED, SO I CAN JUST PUT THAT TO THE SIDE.
AND YOU MENTIONED, CAN I JUST REALLY QUICK JUST TO VERIFY, WAS IT THE SMART APP, THE SMART HOUSING APPLICATION? THAT IS LINE COMMISSIONER, I CAN I TAKE QUESTION TIME AND COMMISSIONER, YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH THAT QUESTION.
UM, THE SMART HOUSING, IS THAT THE DEADLINE SPECIFICALLY? NO, MA'AM.
IT'S ACTUALLY A CONTRACTUAL DEADLINE WITH THE LANDOWNER.
SO THE PROPERTY IS UNDER CONTRACT AND IT IS, IT IS THE BUY SELL CONTRACT.
IT IS NOT A SMART HOUSING CONTRACT.
OKAY, SO IT'S FOR THE SALE ONLY AS THE DEADLINE? YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER SAR, I APPRECIATE THAT CHAIR.
UM, MS. WARD, UM, I ACTUALLY, JUST TO FOLLOW UP TO THAT QUESTION.
SO IF YOU GO PAST THAT DATE, MY, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE JEOPARDIZES THE PROJECT, WHICH MEANS OF COURSE, AFFORDABLE, COMPETENT GETS JEOPARDIZED AS WELL.
AM I UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY? THAT'S ACCURATE.
UH, LIKE I SAID, WE WERE, WE DID HAVE TO EXERCISE A, UH, FAIRLY LARGE, FAIRLY LARGE
IT IS SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS THAT REALLY HAS A MAJOR IMPACT ON AN AFFORDABLE PROJECT.
UH, IN TALKING WITH MY CLIENTS, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE COMFORTABLE AS LONG AS WE CAN GET TO FIRST READING, WE ARE COMFORTABLE CLOSING AT THAT POINT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A VERY, VERY, VERY LITTLE CHANCE, IF ANY, THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY GET ALL THE WAY THROUGH BY THE NINTH, BUT THIS WOULD GIVE THEM COMFORT TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU ALREADY SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT JUST TO CONFIRM THAT IF THIS DOES GO TO COUNCIL PASSES AT FIRST READING, THERE IS A COMFORT TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL LIKE COMMISSIONER POLIER DID REALLY COVER MY QUESTION.
THIS DOES HELP RIGHT? THINK THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE'VE LONG TALK ABOUT DEEPER AFFORDABILITY LEVELS BECAUSE OF SORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL MFIS AND SORT OF RESPONDING TO THE ON THE GROUND SITUATION IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY.
AND JUST TO SORT OF REITERATE AND CONFIRM, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS THAT YOU ARE OPEN TO WORKING FROM HERE AS YOU GO FORWARD TO SEE IF THERE'S OPTIONS, WHETHER IT'S PULLING DOWN CITY SUBSIDY OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM TO GET TO THOSE DEEPER AFFORDABILITY AND EXPLORE THOSE.
UM, AND JUST A QUICK REMINDER FROM LAW, PLEASE FOCUS ON THE MATTERS OF ZONING RATHER THAN THE TOTAL FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, SEE ANYBODY? ALL RIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER.
OH NO, YOU WERE JUST SCRATCHING.
UM, IF I'M NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN APPROVAL? OKAY.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR APPROVAL? UH, OR STAFF RECOMMENDATION? IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? COMMISSIONER HOWARD OR, OKAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION,
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SIR? BRIEFLY.I MEAN, WITH, WITH THE FINANCIAL MARKETS DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, IT'S KIND OF HARDER RIGHT NOW MORE THAN EVER TO DO DEALS.
AND WE'RE SEEING A WHOLE LOT OF DEALS THAT WE'RE MOVING THROUGH JUST FALL AWAY.
AND SO UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE LIKE A BLIP OF NEW CONSTRUCTION DELIVER, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WITHOUT A LOT OF DELIVERIES.
SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET OUT OF OUR OWN WAY AND SEE HOUSING GET MOVING, LET'S JUST DO IT.
ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST COMMISSION? YANEZ POLITO, SOME OF YOU ALL MIGHT REMEMBER THE NAME.
PABLO HERNANDEZ, UH, HE WASN'T NECESSARILY SUPER POPULAR BY THE MAINSTREAM AND HIS YOUTH, BUT HE BECAME REALLY WELL KNOWN FOR YEARS OF ACTIVISM AND, UM, FOR MAKING SOME SERIOUS PHYSICAL SACRIFICES, UH, IN RESISTING GENTRIFICATION ON THE EAST SIDE AND, UM, AND BEING BRUTALLY BEATEN UP BY THE POLICE.
AND ONE OF THE LAST TIMES WE EVER SAW FIRE HOSES AND DOGS USED ON PEOPLE, UM, AND HE CALLED SMART HOUSING AN ACRONYM FOR SEND MINORITIES ACROSS THE RIVER TODAY FROM CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN.
I JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE SMART HOUSING, SINCE ITS INTRODUCTION, WHILE IT IS POSED AS A TOOL OF AFFORDABILITY IN THE AREAS, ESPECIALLY LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, IT HAS NOT PRODUCED AFFORDABILITY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE MOST.
BUT IT HAS INCREASED AFFORDABLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE OF MUCH, MUCH HIGHER INCOMES AND PRIVILEGE.
AND I'M AFRAID THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THIS INSTANCE.
UM, IF THIS DEAL DOESN'T GO THROUGH, UH, WE LOSE WHAT, 5% OF THE UNITS AT 60%, WHICH IS NOT AFFORDABLE TO COMMUNITIES WHO ARE BEING DISPLACED FROM MONTOPOLIS.
UM, AND I GET THE, THE MESSAGE FROM LEGAL, I ALWAYS NOTICE THAT WE GET PUSHED NOT TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IT DOWN TO INCOMES THAT REALLY MATTER FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING DISPLACED.
BUT WE FEEL FINE TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY AND CREATING MORE HOUSING WHEN IT'S AT THE COMMERCIAL OR MARKET RATE.
UM, I REALIZE THERE, THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME PERKS TO THIS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS TO THIS PROJECT, BUT THEY'RE NOT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT TO, UM, DOING ANYTHING TO PRESERVE, OR NOT EVEN PRESERVE, BUT JUST EVEN MITIGATE SOME OF THE DAMAGE IN MONTOPOLIS.
WHY IS IT IMPORTANT? BECAUSE IT'S A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN LAND VALUE THAT WE GRANT WITH THESE ENTITLEMENTS.
AND WHAT DO WE GET IN RETURN AND WHAT IS THE BRUNT ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FACING THE MOST DISPLACEMENT THAT LITERALLY THE UPROOTED STUDY HIGHLIGHTS THIS COMMUNITY? UM, SO I, I DON'T THINK IT'S A LOSS BECAUSE WE'RE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS WITH NEW HOUSING CREATION.
WE ARE CONSTRUCTING TONS OF NEW HOUSING, BUT NOT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE MOST.
AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A BETTER USE OF THIS LAND WITH SOME OF THE TOOLS, SOME OF THE HOUSING BOND MONEY, WE CAN DO A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN 5% AT 60 MFI FOR MONS, I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST.
ANYBODY SPEAKING FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD? SURE.
UM, SO I'M MIKE EXCITED ABOUT THE, THE PROSPECT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND I THINK THIS IS A MODEL, THIS IS A PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION MODEL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN USED MORE RECENTLY, UM, BECAUSE OF THE MARKETS.
AND I THINK THAT WHILE OBVIOUSLY ALL OF OUR NEEDS AREN'T GONNA BE MET JUST THROUGH THIS SIMPLE PROJECT, I THINK WE DO NEED TO SORT OF EMBRACE THE FACT THAT WE ARE GETTING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAN WE DID, WE DID OTHERWISE, IF WE WERE TO NOT APPROVE THE PROJECT.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO SEE MORE AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE FOLKS OUT THERE THAT ARE TRYING TO EXPAND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SPACE, DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT OBVIOUSLY FALLS SOLELY SHORT OF WHAT WE NEED.
IT IS MOVEMENT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST OR FOUR? YES, COMMISSIONER ZA.
I, I JUST WANNA HONESTLY APPRECIATE, I THINK COMMISSION BELIEVE THOSE, UM, COMMENTS AND ANYTHING THAT'S WORTHY.
I I WILL BE AT THIS POINT SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT.
I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT MS. WARD HAS SORT OF INDICATED THAT SHE'S WILLING TO WORK TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET TO THOSE DEEPER AFFORDABILITY LEVELS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS A CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE SHOULD SORT OF FIND A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
I ALSO REALLY HOPE THAT AS THIS MOVES FORWARD AGAIN VOLUNTARILY, HOPEFULLY, UM, YOU CAN CONSIDER SOME OF THE IMPROVED, UM, COMMITMENT TOWARDS 10 PROTECTIONS AROUND SOURCE OF INCOME AND OTHER ITEMS THAT I KNOW HAVE BEEN PART OF SOME OF THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD RECENTLY IN SOME OF THE ORDINANCES.
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YOU.LAST CHANCE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON ITEM 33.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON THE DIAS 3, 4, 5, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR VIRTUALLY? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
IS THAT YELLOW COMMISSIONER MUHA? MM-HMM.
UM, THOSE AGAINST OH ONE ZERO.
[40. Briefing regarding ATX Walk Bike Roll - Update of the Bikeways, Urban Trails and Sidewalks, Pedestrian Crossing and Shared Streets Plans. Presenters: Laura Dierenfield 974-7189, Ann DeSanctis 974-3102, John Eastman 974-7025 and Nathan Wilkes 974-7016, Public Works Department.]
TO OUR BRIEFING NUMBER 40.THIS IS A BRIEFING REGARDING ATX WALK, BIKE ROLL, THE UPDATE OF THE BIKEWAYS URBAN TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AND SHARED STREETS PLANS.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY.
I'LL KEEP MY REMARKS VERY BRIEF, AND THEN MY COLLEAGUES WILL, UH, TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE UPDATE TO THE BIKEWAY SIDEWALKS AND URBAN TRAILS PLANS.
UM, THE TWO THINGS I'D REALLY LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT ARE, UM, THAT THESE PLANS WILL BE UPDATED IN CONCURRENCE WITH THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN.
SO YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO HEAR BACK FROM US IN APRIL, BUT THIS IS JUST A BRIEFING TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE HAVE AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLANS THEMSELVES.
THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS OUR EFFORTS TO CENTER THIS PLANNING EFFORT IN EQUITY AND SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT WE USED, STARTING WITH AN EQUITY FRAMEWORK AND TALKING WITH, UH, SOME OF OUR CITY LEADERS ABOUT HOW WE CAN BUILD OUT, UM, AN EQUITY FRAMEWORK THAT CAN CARRY THROUGH THE PROCESS AND USING A VARIETY OF OTHER STRATEGIES.
UM, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE HEARD VERY LOUD AND CLEAR, UH, THE ACUTE, UH, ISSUES AROUND AFFORDABILITY AND AN AND ANTI-DISPLACEMENT.
AND THE PLANS THEMSELVES ARE STRUCTURED TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT ALSO TO, UM, JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO ADDRESS OUR AFFORDABILITY AND DISPLACEMENT CRISIS, UH, THAT THAT WILL BE, IT'LL BE NECESSARY TO, TO ACHIEVE EQUITABLE TRANSPORTATION OUTCOMES.
UM, WITH THAT, I'LL YIELD TO MY COLLEAGUE AND, UH, AND A SANTU TO SPEAK TO URBAN TRAILS.
AND, UM, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO SIDEWALKS AND BIKEWAYS.
IS EVERYONE ABLE TO HEAR ME OKAY? I'M GOOD.
I'M AND STIS, THE ACTING PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE URBAN TRAILS PROGRAM, AND I'LL BE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THE DRAFT URBAN TRAILS PLAN.
OUR LAST URBAN TRAILS PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2014, AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO IMPLEMENT THAT PROPOSED NETWORK WITH ATX WALK BY ROLE.
WE'RE UPDATING THE PROPOSED NETWORK BASED ON FIELD WORK AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE UPDATING HOW THE NETWORK IS PRIORITIZED WITH A NEW DATA-DRIVEN METHOD BASED ON PUBLIC INPUT AND CITY POLICIES.
THE TOP THREE FACTORS SEEN ON THIS SLIDE CONCERNED WHETHER TRAILS WILL IMPROVE ACCESS ACROSS BARRIERS IF THEY'RE NEAR HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT OR IF THEY'RE NEAR KEY NEIGHBORHOOD DESTINATIONS.
HERE YOU CAN SEE A SNAPSHOT OF, OOH, BACK, BACK.
HERE YOU CAN SEE A SNAPSHOT OF THE PRIORITIZED NETWORK.
THE TIER ONE TRAILS ARE SHOWN IN DARK GREEN, AND THESE ARE HIGH PRIORITY FOR URBAN TRAILS TO IMPLEMENT IN THE NEAR TERM.
THE TIER TWO AND TIER THREE TRAILS ARE STILL VERY IMPORTANT TO THE TRAIL NETWORK THAT ARE RECOMMENDED TO THE APPROACH MORE OPPORTUNISTICALLY OVER ITS TIME, AND THAT WOULD BE OPEN NEW PARTNERSHIP ARISES OR A FREE DEVELOPMENT CURVE.
AS WE IMPLEMENT TRAILS, WE'RE ALSO THE INSURED TO LOOK AT EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY IMPLICATIONS.
WE HEARD CONCERN FROM COMMUNITIES THAT URBAN TRAILS CAUSE DISPLACEMENT.
AS DATA ON THIS IS LIMITED, THE PLANT UPDATE RECOMMENDS STUDYING DISPLACEMENT IMPACTS NEAR TRAILS.
IN DEVELOPING AN ACTION PLAN TO MITIGATE, WE'LL ALSO SEEK TO PARTNER WITH EXISTING ANTI DISPLACEMENT WORK ALREADY HAPPENING.
THEN BUILDING ON THE SUCCESS OF ATX WALK BY GIRL AMBASSADORS.
WE RECOMMEND HIRING COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS SPECIFIC TO URBAN TRAILS.
WE NEED TO BE SURE WE'RE NOT ONLY BUILDING TRAILS, BUT TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO USE THEM AND ENSURING EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE USING THEM.
AS PART OF THAT, PROGRAMMING IS KEY, THE PLAN RECOMMENDS TRAIL STEWARDS WHO CAN ACT AS A RESOURCE ON THE TRAIL, AND ALSO RECOMMENDS PLACEMAKING AND TEMPORARY ACTIVATION.
THESE PROGRAMS CAN BRING NEW AND DIVERSE USERS TO THE TRAIL AND MAKE THEM MORE LIKELY TO USE IT AGAIN.
LASTLY, BUT PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY,
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THAT IS SUCCESSFUL URBAN TRAIL SYSTEM WHEN YOU NEED MAINTENANCE.URBAN TRAILS PLAN UPDATE INCLUDES AN ADA TRANSITION PLAN AND AN OUTLINE FOR A PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN EASTMAN.
JUST CHECK IN FIRST IS, UH, UM, EVERYBODY HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? WE CAN.
THE SIDEWALK CROSSINGS AND SHARED STREETS PLAN IS BASED ON THREE OVERARCHING STRATEGIES, UM, PRIORITIZING EQUITY, SAFE, COMFORTABLE, AND ACCESSIBLE PASSAGE ALONG AND ACROSS EVERY PUBLIC STREET, AND COLLABORATING WITH PARTNERS, UM, USING A COMPLETE STREETS APPROACH.
AND, AND I HAVE TO MAKE A QUICK SHOUT OUT.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DO IN MAKING SURE SIDEWALKS ARE INCLUDED ON PROJECTS.
I SAW SOME OF THAT EARLIER TONIGHT, SO THANK YOU.
THE, UH, PROCESS STARTED WITH AN EVALUATION, THE CURRENT SYSTEM USING EQUITY ANALYSIS ZONES OR EASS.
WE FOUND THAT A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE CITY'S PEDESTRIAN HIGH ENTRY STREETS ARE LOCATED IN FOCUS EASS, AS WELL AS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF GAPS BETWEEN SUITABLE CROSSINGS, UM, IN THE FOCUS EASS AS COMPARED TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF POSITIVE TRENDS.
THE EXTENDS AND CONDITION OF THE SIDEWALK NETWORK, UM, WERE SLIGHTLY BETTER WITHIN THE FOCUS.
EASS AND THE OVERALL EXTENDS AND FUNCTIONALITY OF THE SITE SIDEWALK NETWORK HAVE IMPROVED SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE SIX YEARS SINCE THE LAST SIDEWALK PLANE UPDATE GOING FROM 2,400 MILES TO 2,800 MILES, UM, WHILE IMPROVING FROM 16% TO 32% FUNCTIONALLY ACCEPTABLE.
SO A LOT OF PROGRESS, BUT STILL, UH, A LONG WAYS TO GO TO ACHIEVING, UH, EQUITABLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
SO HOW DOES THIS PLAN HELP GET US THERE? BY TAKING A PRAGMATIC AND CONTEXT SENSITIVE APPROACH THAT BUILDS ON THE WORK OF SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOL, A HEALTHY STREETS VISION, ZERO LIVING STREETS, UM, INCLUDING SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF BOTH STREETS, WHILE RECOGNIZING THAT IN SOME REST, SOME RETROFIT AREAS, A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET MAY BE SUFFICIENT.
AND ON LOW TRAFFIC VOLUME, RESIDENTIAL STREETS CREATING SHARED STREETS AS A MORE SUSTAINABLE, FASTER TO IMPLEMENT A LOWER COST APPROACH TO IMPROVING THE PEDESTRIAN NETWORK.
SO RATHER THAN TAKING OVER A HUNDRED YEARS TO BUILD SIDEWALKS ON EVERY FRONTAGE OF EVERY STREET, WE CAN ENVISION COMPLETING A CITYWIDE PEDESTRIAN NETWORK IN A 20 TO 30 YEAR TIMEFRAME.
UH, CONTACT SENSITIVE APPROACH WILL ALSO BE USED TO GUIDE CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS AT, AT ALMOST 2000 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND SO THE UPDATED PLAN NAME REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE THREE KEY ELEMENTS IN THE SYSTEM, SIDEWALKS, CROSSINGS, AND SHARED SWEEPS.
AND TO HELP US STAY ON TRACK, THE PLAN INCLUDES INDICATORS THAT WILL BE USED TO BENCHMARK OUR PROGRESS.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO NATHAN WILKES TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE UPDATES TO THE BICYCLE PLAN.
UM, BICYCLE PLAN WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2014, SO THIS IS NINE YEARS LATER.
WE'RE FRAMING NOW TWO, UM, TWO CENTRAL CHALLENGES.
THERE'S THREE IF YOU READ THE DOCUMENT.
UM, BUT THE FIRST IS GIVING PEOPLE MOBILITY CHOICE, AND THAT'S THE HUGE TASK OF MAKING OUR STREETS SAFE.
UH, THE PRIMARY KIND OF MECHANISM TO DO THIS IS THE BUILDING, THE ALL AGES AND ABILITIES BICYCLE NETWORK, WHICH IS, UH, WHILE EVERY BUSY STREET SHOULD HAVE PROTECTED BIKE LANES, THIS IS THE SUBSET OF STREETS THAT IS COST EFFECTIVE, QUICK TO BUILD AND SERVES PEOPLE'S, UM, TRAVEL NEEDS.
AND THE SECOND CENTRAL CHALLENGE IN THIS GO ROUND IS JUST, UH, WHAT LAURA, UH, TOUCHED ON IS JUST WHO HAS AC ACCESS TO THAT MOBILITY CHOICE? SO, UH, BICYCLING, RIDING SCOOTERS, TRICYCLES, UH, UH, USING ELECTRIC WHEELCHAIRS IN IN BIKE LANES.
LIKE NONE OF THIS IS AVAILABLE IF THE, IF YOU LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE THERE'S NO DESTINATIONS TO GET TO.
SO THAT'S A LAND PLANNING ISSUE, AND IT'S NOT AVAILABLE IF YOU CAN'T, UH, AFFORD TO LIVE IN PLACES THAT HAVE THAT KIND OF DESTINATION, UM, UH, ACCESS AND THEN THE STREETS TO SUPPORT IT AND THE CONNECTIVITY TO SUPPORT IT.
UM, THE LEDGES NETWORK UPDATED THROUGH THIS PLAN.
UM, ORIGINALLY IN 2014, IT WAS ABOUT 400 MILES.
WE INCREASED IT 50% IN THE ASM P IN 2019.
AND THROUGH THIS PLANNING EFFORT, WE'RE
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INCREASING IN ANOTHER 50% OF KIND OF PLANNED NETWORK TO BE ABOUT A THOUSAND MILES OF STREETS.AND, UH, WE ADDED A LOT OF NETWORK CONNECTIVITY AROUND TRANSIT STATIONS, UM, CORRIDOR PROGRAM PROJECTS, UM, YEAH, CONNECTING, CONNECTING AND FEEDING PROJECT CONNECT.
UM, AND THEY'RE, UH, SHARED WITH URBAN TRAILS.
THERE'S THREE PRIORITIZATION THEMES.
UH, THE 2014 PLAN LARGELY FOCUSED AT CREATING A KIND OF BASIC CITYWIDE BACKBONE, AND WE GOT REALLY STRONG SUPPORT FOR ALL THREE OF THESE THEMES.
SO THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE LEGITIMATE WAYS THAT WE VIEW PRIORITIZING PROJECTS.
SO THAT'S CONNECTION, NEIGHBORHOOD DESTINATIONS, CONNECTIONS TO NATURE AND CONNECTIONS, UH, CITYWIDE.
AND WE BUILT A GIS MODEL, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS ARE FOCUS AREAS THIS TIME AROUND ARE LARGELY MORE KIND OF INTERSECTIONAL, UM, THE NEED TO MANAGE AFFORDABILITY AND DISPLACEMENT, AND THAT'S AT A CITYWIDE SCALE.
LIKE LAURA TALKED ABOUT, UH, WORKING MORE COLLABORATIVELY WITH OUR LAND PLANNING, ANTI-DISPLACEMENT PLANNING, AFFORDABILITY PLANNING COLLEAGUES, UH, TO BRING IN THE KIND OF MOBILITY AND TRANSIT PIECES, UM, FEEDING TRANSIT WITH PROJECT CONNECT.
UH, AND WE'RE ACTIVELY ALREADY DOING THAT WITH THE METRO RAPID STATIONS IS ALREADY AFFECTING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, UH, WELL NOW NOT OPENING SUPER SOON, BUT, UM, WHY DON'T YOU FINISH, NATHAN.
Y'ALL CAN READ THE REST OF THE BULLETS HERE.
UM, AND, UH, WE'RE GOING THROUGH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THE, WE HAVE THE ALL THREE PLANS, UH, UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
PEOPLE CAN COMMENT ON PAGES, JUST LIKE THE ZILKER PARK PLAN.
UH, THEY CAN UPVOTE AND THAT'LL BE OPEN UNTIL MARCH 20TH.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE QUICK REVISIONS BASED ON ANYTHING WE SEE IN THOSE COMMENTS.
WE'LL COME BACK TO Y'ALL IN APRIL AND THEN HEAD HOPEFULLY TO COUNCIL IN MAY.
UH, LIKE LAURA SAID, THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN WILL KIND OF, UH, GO NEARLY AT THE SAME TIME.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE GET TO COUNCIL AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THEN JUST WRAPPING UP, WE, WE SAW A LOT OF SYNERGIES IN BRINGING ALL THREE OF THESE PLANS TOGETHER.
THEY'RE ALL KIND OF SHORT RANGE MOBILITY TOOLS.
UH, THEY'RE ALL VULNERABLE USER KIND OF CLASSES ON THE STREET.
UM, THEY, UH, STUDIES SHOW THAT PEOPLE ARE HAPPY AND HEALTHIER IF THEY WALK AND BIKE IN THEIR DAILY LIFE.
UH, THEY SUPPORT THE AS AND P'S, UH, MODE SHIFT GOALS, UM, GIVING PEOPLE, UM, TRANSPORTATION CHOICES, INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A CAR, WHETHER THEY'RE YOUNG OR OLD, OR DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS OR, UH, CHOOSE NOT TO, IS A REALLY IMPORTANT KIND OF HUMAN RIGHT AND CHOICE FOR MOBILITY.
AND, UH, KIND OF TO THE INTERSECTIONAL POINT THAT WHEN THE NASTY BUZZER WENT OFF, UH,
WE'RE BRINGING A LOT OF FOCUS BY BRINGING ALL THREE OF THESE PLANS, UM, AT THE SAME TIME OF THEIR SUPPORT FOR BROAD CITYWIDE GOALS, UH, BE THAT THE KIND OF CLIMATE PLAN.
UM, AND I RECENTLY LEARNED THEY HAVE WHAT THEY'RE HOPING TO GET TO AND KIND OF THE KNOWN WAYS THEY'RE GONNA GET THERE, AND THERE'S A BIG GAP.
UM, SO THESE PLANS ARE A WAY TO, UH, WORK TOWARDS THAT.
UM, AFFORDABILITY PLANS, THE DRAFT T O D PLANS RIGHT NOW, IMAGINE AUSTIN PARK COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, IS VERY SUPPORTIVE AND ALIGNED.
UM, AND WITH THAT, HAPPY TO TURN OVER FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU.
UM, JUST A REMINDER TO THE COMMISSION ON BRIEFING ITEMS, WE ARE ASKING CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ONLY.
UM, SO NOT DELVING INTO DISCUSSION OR LEADING TO ANY ACTION THAT'LL COME BACK TO US, UH, LATER, UM, AS MR. WILKES MENTIONED.
SO, UM, WE'VE GOT EIGHT SPOTS IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA START? COMMISSIONER? OH, COMMISSIONER MOOSE.
TYLER, THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING TO GO FIRST.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY BUZZ ABOUT IT.
IT IS GETTING FEEDBACK, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT BECAUSE SOME OF IT HAS BEEN BOTH, UM, THIS IDEA THAT WALKING SOMEHOW COMPETES WITH BIKING THAT SOMEHOW COMPETES WITH, YOU KNOW, INTER MOBILITY, UM, AND STREET STUFF.
BUT I THINK THE, THE, THE PROOF IS EVIDENT, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE NICE BIKEWAYS ALONG SHOLL CREEK, AND WHEN IT'S THERE, PEOPLE USE IT.
WE HAVE TOWN LAKE, AND WHEN IT'S THERE, PEOPLE USE IT.
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CONTINUES TO COME TO LIFE.UM, THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OUTLYING, I, I SEE THIS STUFF THROUGH CENTRAL, I SAW YOUR SAFETY STUFF.
I KNOW THAT'S WHERE THE HEAVY EMPHASIS NEEDS TO START, BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE DEEPER PLANNING OUT IN SOME OF THE OUTLYING AREAS.
THESE ARE SOME OF, WHILE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF HIGH-RISE GROWTH THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE CENTRAL PORTION, UH, ZAP IS SEEING THE WILD, WILD REST IN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS.
AND SO IT'S BECOMING VERY HAPHAZARD OUT THERE.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT AS OUR CITY GROWS, UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING AN INTEGRATED PATTERN THAT CONNECTS ACROSS EAST WEST, UM, THAT DOES ALL THESE THINGS.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA END UP, YOU KNOW, PRESUMABLY IF WE GET IT RIGHT THROUGH THESE CORRIDORS, THEN THESE OTHER AREAS ARE ALREADY DEVELOPING WITHOUT A PLAN AND NOBODY'S PAYING ATTENTION TO IT.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RETROFIT AND GO BACK AND RETROFIT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE INTO THOSE AREAS.
SO I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME WORK INTO THAT AND FLUSH THAT OUT.
IF WE PULL UP Y'ALL'S MAPS AGAIN AND LOOK KIND OF AT THE NORTHWEST SECTION, THE NORTH OR THE SOUTHWEST SECTION, AND THEN SOME OF THAT FAR EAST SECTION, IT'S PRETTY BLANK OUT THERE.
AND THESE ARE HIGH GROWTH AREAS WHERE IT'S HAPPENING.
IT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING IN PLANNING COMMISSION.
YOU MIGHT GET SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK FROM ZAP WHEN Y'ALL GO TO ZAP, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT FORETHOUGHT BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE TECH DOT COMING OUT AND JUST LAYING OUT TONS OF PAVEMENT WITH NO CONCERN FOR REAL GOOD, SAFE MOBILITIES.
UM, SO I GUESS, SINCE I'M SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT AS A QUESTION, I WONDER IF WE'RE GIVING SOME THOUGHT TO
AND THEN MY OTHER WONDERMENT IS ABOUT, UM, COMPETING INTEREST OF, UM, E-BIKE SCOOTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I HAVE MY OWN BIAS, I I WON'T PUT IT OUT THERE,
I THINK THE MORE WE USE OUR FEET AND OUR POWER, THE HEALTHIER WE ARE.
UM, BUT I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S GOOD REASON TO SWITCH TO THAT TO CARS.
SO HOW DOES THAT, I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT INTEGRATES THAT OR WHAT Y'ALL ARE ENVISIONING WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BIKES.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NON-MOTORIZED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SIDEWALKS? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NO SCOOTERS? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FEET? WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT STUFF AS WE GROW? ALL RIGHT.
UH, TRY TO TAKE A CRACK AT THAT.
UH, YEAH, THERE'S NO PRETENSION ABOUT ELECTRIC THIRD THAT, THAT BULLET GOT CUT OFF, BUT A THIRD OF BIKE SALES IN THE US ARE ELECTRIC.
UM, YEAH, MY JOKE IS NOBODY DRIVES A SCREW WITH SOAP AND A FLATHEAD SCREWDRIVER ANY, YOU KNOW, I, I ALSO AGREE THAT, UM, IT'S GREAT TO MOVE YOUR OWN SELF, BUT UM, IT, IT, IT LIKE REDUCES HILLS LIKE SUMMERTIME CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT REALLY IS KIND OF A PIVOTAL THING.
YOU KNOW, SCOOTERS ARE VERY EFFICIENT TO STORE.
UM, SO IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE IT TO AN ELECTRIC CAR, IT BEATS IT HAND DOWN.
UM, BUT THE MORE COMPLICATED QUESTION, I, I THINK IT'S ONE THAT WE'VE GIVEN A LOT OF FOCUS, LIKE I'LL TAKE JUST LIKE THE, THE TASK OF FEEDING TRANSIT AND OUTLYING AREAS.
LIKE LET'S JUST SAY WE HOPE TO HAVE AN L R T AT 180 3 IN LAMAR.
UM, YEAH, THE WALKING RADIUS IS HALF A MILE.
THE BICYCLE SCOOTER, E TRIKE, I DON'T CARE,
YOU GET DEEP INTO THE KIND OF RUNDBERG NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU GET TO CROSS I 35 WITH THAT TYPE OF CATCHMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY, UH, IN COUNTRIES THAT HAVE REALLY BALANCED MULTI MOBILITY SYSTEMS, LIKE I THINK, UH, FOR EXAMPLE IN THE NETHERLANDS, THEY HAVE FOR THE HOME STATION, LIKE NOT THE ONE THAT DOWNTOWN OR IN THE DENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, LIKE 50% OF PEOPLE ARRIVE BY BIKE, UM, E-BIKE, ET CETERA.
UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THAT PROXIMITY IN THOSE LOW, LOWER DENSITY AREAS.
SO AS FAR AS THE CONNECTIVITY AND THE LAND PLANNING, I, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A LOT MORE OF IT
AND THE, THE TRICKIER THING IS SHUNTING THESE CROW FLIES FOR PEOPLE UNDER THEIR OWN POWER IN, IN SHORT RANGE MOBILITY OPTIONS, UH, PARTICULARLY AROUND CONNECTING TO TRANSIT, OTHER MAJOR KIND OF HUBS LIKE THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER COX, YOU HAD A QUESTION? YES.
UM, SO I LOVE A GOOD PLAN, UH, BUT WITHOUT MONEY, WE CAN'T MAKE THAT PLAN HAPPEN.
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LITTLE BIT ABOUT MONEY.UM, I'M CURIOUS RELATED TO WHAT WE SPECIFICALLY DO ON THIS COMMISSION, IF THERE'S BEEN ANY SORT OF ANALYSIS OF, BECAUSE WE RECENTLY CHANGED, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY, UM, THE WAY WE POTENTIALLY CALCULATE, YOU KNOW, FUNDS THAT GO IN FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, A LOT OF TIMES THOSE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS ARE FOR MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION, BUT SOMETIMES IT ENDS UP NON-MOTORIZED.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M JUST, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S BEEN ANY SORT OF EVALUATION OF FUNDING SOURCES HOW TO MAKE THIS REALITY, THE CHANGE IN FUNDING SOURCES OVER TIME, UM, AND IF THERE'S POTENTIALLY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE EXPLORING TO, TO HELP MAKE THIS REALITY THROUGH, UH, ZONING OR, OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE REQUIRE, UH, AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, START SPEAKING TO THAT.
UM, SO ABSOLUTELY, AND, AND WE DID A FAIRLY DEEP ANALYSIS WITH THE 2016 UPDATE TO THE, TO THE SIDEWALK PLAN, UM, ABOUT FUNDING SOURCES AND MAKING SOME, MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATION.
UM, THE KIND OF GOOD NEWS IS RIGHT NOW THROUGH, UM, PRIMARILY BOND APPROVALS.
UM, THERE'S FAIRLY ROBUST FUNDING.
THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME GREAT WORK DONE THROUGH, UM, THE STREET IMPACT FEE.
AND WHILE THAT'S PRIMARILY FOR ROADWAY CAPACITY, IT DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT BUILDING OUT THE FULL SECTION.
AND SO WE'RE, FOR INSTANCE, ON A PROJECT ON EAST DIEGO LANE, WHERE WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DOING A PHASE ONE OF BUILDING OUT THAT FULL SECTION BY INSTALLING THE, UM, THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE IMPROVEMENTS, EVEN THOUGH THE REST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FOR, FOR, UM, VEHICULAR CAPACITY AREN'T GOING IN, THOSE ARE BEING FUNDED BY BONDS.
BUT WHEN THE VEHICULAR CAPACITY GO IMPROVEMENTS GO IN FUNDED BY STREET IMPACT FEE, THEY'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO REFUND BACK TO THE, ESSENTIALLY TO THE BICYCLE AND, AND PEDESTRIAN AND SAFE ROUTE SCHOOL PROGRAMS, THE BOND FUNDS, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO RECYCLE THOSE INTO MORE PROJECTS.
SO THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, REAL INNOVATIVE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
UM, A LOT OF WORK DONE ON PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICTS.
UM, I, I, I DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE IN TERMS OF OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'VE REQUIRED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON TRAFFIC STUDIES, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS FOR OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR VEHICLES, BUT NOT FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS.
SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAINLY ADDITIONAL ROOM THERE, BUT, UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW, UM, FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, OUR, OUR ACTUAL NUMBER ONE CHALLENGE IS, IS CONSTRUCTION CAPACITY, UM, AS OPPOSED TO FUNDING THREE OR FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, WE'LL PROBABLY BE BACK IN THE FUNDING CRUNCH.
UM, BUT UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EXCELLENT WORK ON THE FUNDING SIDE DONE, UM, BY LOTS OF FOLKS WITHIN THE CITY AND, AND STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED.
UH, THAT'S, YOU KIND OF ANSWERED MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE IF, IF, IF FUNDING SEEMS TO BE ROBUST, I THINK IS THE TERM YOU USED, I WAS CURIOUS WHAT, WHAT YOU SAW AS KIND OF THE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT TO ACTUALLY ROLLING OUT THESE PLANS.
UM, AND CONSTRUCTION CAPACITIES CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE AS ONE OF THOSE.
DO YOU SEE ANY OTHER IMPEDIMENTS, EITHER INTERNAL TO THE CITY OR EXTERNAL TO THE CITY TO, TO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW? THERE'S, THERE'S ONE, AND I THINK THIS FALSE FIRMLY INTO, IN Y'ALL'S WHEELHOUSE IS, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY UH, UM, UM, A VERY FOCUSED DETENTION FACT.
I HAD EMAILS AND SOME OF 'EM MAY KNOW LISA HENLEY, UM, SOME SORT OF CITYWIDE, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIVITY STANDARD.
AND I THINK AS YOU, UH, AS WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS OUT ON THE FRINGES, THEY TEND TO BE THESE LARGER MULTI-FAMILY, UM, AND GETTING ACCESS POINTS, UM, FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BIKES THROUGHOUT AND HAVING SOME MINIMUM PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, THEY'D APPLY TO ALL PROJECTS I THINK WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AS ONE.
I I'M SURE, I'M SURE ANNE AND NATHAN PROBABLY HAVE SOME MORE THOUGHTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IMPEDIMENTS AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANY MORE TIME LEFT.
THIS IS MORE OF JUST A QUICK COMMENT, BUT THE, THE, THE, THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE EARLY ON ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MULTIMODAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS CONNECTIVITY LEADING TO GENTRIFICATION, I, I ACTUALLY SEE THAT AS, AS AS THE OPPOSITE WAY AROUND.
I, I, WHAT I SUSPECT, AND I'M CURIOUS IF Y'ALL DONE ANY ANALYSIS OF THIS OR, OR HAVE ANY KIND OF GUT
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FEELING, IS THAT A LOT OF THE STATISTICAL DATA YOU'RE USING TO DETERMINE WHERE THESE DISADVANTAGED AREAS ARE ARE ALSO THE MOST RAPIDLY GENTRIFYING.AND SO THE DATA YOU'RE USING TO MAKE THE PLAN IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY A YEAR OR TWO OLD TO GET THE FUNDING TAKES ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO TO ACTUALLY GET IT TO CONSTRUCTION TAKES ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO.
AND BY THE TIME WE'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THESE AWESOME MULTIMODAL FACILITIES IN EAST AUSTIN, ALL OF THE BIG WHITE AND BLACK BOX FARMHOUSES HAVE GONE UP ALREADY AND DESTROYED ALL OF THE TINY AFFORDABLE HOUSES.
AND SO, UH, WE END UP WITH ALL THESE AMAZING FACILITIES IN, IN THESE NEWLY, YOU KNOW, UH, REDEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO I, I'M, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IF, IF YOU MIGHT AGREE WITH THAT HUNCH THAT I HAVE AND, AND IF THERE'S, IF Y'ALL HAVE MAYBE DEVELOPED A WAY TO TRY TO FORWARD THINK OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE THESE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES MAY BE DISPLACED AND THEN START PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE FUTURE DISPLACEMENT AREAS.
WELL, WE HAVE TO MOVE ON IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PICK THAT QUESTION UP.
COMMISSIONER AZAR, THANK YOU CHAIR.
UM, CERTAINLY I'LL RESPOND TO THAT.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS, UM, FOR THE SIDEWALK PLAN, IT'S BEEN TUNED SINCE 2009.
IT'S A PRIORITIZATION MODEL AND, AND IT GETS UPDATED REGULARLY.
AND, UM, ON TOP OF THAT, THE WAY WE DELIVER SIDEWALKS IN PARTICULAR, CUZ THEY'RE SOME OF THE SIMPLEST INFRASTRUCTURE IS THEY'RE, UH, A FIELD ENGINEERED MODEL.
SO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, UPDATING, WE DO A MOBILITY ANNUAL PLAN AND WE DO ANNUAL SERVICE PLANS AND WE'RE RESPONSIVE.
SO IT'S NOT A MULTI UNLIKE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE BIG CORRIDORS WHERE THERE'S RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION WHERE WE'RE FILLING IN THE PIECES, WE CAN BE MUCH MORE AGILE AND RESPONSIVE.
AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY SEEING THAT OUR PRIORITIZATION MODEL IS REFLECTING WHEN YOU COMPARE THE 2009, 2016 TO THE, THE MODEL WE'VE JUST RUN.
UM, WE'RE SEEING AREAS BECAUSE IT'S TIED TO INCOME, IT'S TIED TO, UM, HEALTH OUTCOMES.
WE'RE SEEING AREAS IN CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN TURN INTO NOT SO HIGH A PRIORITY ANYMORE.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT NORTHWEST AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN LIGHTING UP IN RED IS VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR US.
SO WE'RE WATCHING, YOU KNOW, THAT PUSH OF, OF, OF FOLKS THAT ARE RELIANT ON THE TRANSIT SIDEWALK NETWORK OUT INTO THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE'S LOWER LEVELS OF CONNECTIVITY AND LOWER LEVELS OF TRANSIT ACCESS.
IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING, WHICH I THINK SPEAKS TO THE COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT MAKING SURE WE ALSO GET OUR BICYCLE SCOOTER, YOU KNOW, MICRO MOBILITY NETWORK, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, OUT INTO THOSE AREAS TO EXTEND THE, THE REACH AND THE ACCESS TO TRANSIT.
AND, AND SO, UM, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING THAT I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE RELATIVELY AGILE, BUT, UH, WHAT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED IS YOUR HUNCH HAS SOME, HAS HAS LIT.
SO, UH, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN SEE US, BUT, UH,
UM, THE, TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE HUNCH, IF WE STOPPED BUILDING SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES AND URBAN TRAILS, DO Y'ALL THINK OUR AFFORDABILITY PROBLEM WOULD STOP? MY HUNCH IS NOT, AND THAT THE DRIVERS ARE FUNDAMENTALLY LIKE, UH, MUCH DEEPER THAN THAT.
UM, AND ONE OF THE SLIDES LAURA GLOSSED OVER QUICKLY, UH, IN HER ULTRA BRIEF INTRODUCTION WAS JUST THE AFFORDABILITY BENEFITS OF WALKING, BIKING, CONNECTING, WALKING AND BIKING TO TRANSIT.
UM, AND JUST LIVING, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, TRAVEL EXPENSES IN, IN HOUSEHOLD TOTAL AFFORDABILITY IS THE SECOND LEADING COST TO HOUSING.
SO LOOKING AT THAT TOTAL HOUSEHOLD AFFORDABILITY IN, UM, IN PART OF THAT EQUATION AND REALLY JUST ANY, ANYTHING IN THE INCOME EXPENSE BALANCE, UM, THAT THAT TIPS IT IS GOOD FOR RESILIENCY IN THIS.
I MIGHT JUST CONTINUE THE QUESTIONING, I THINK SO I REALLY WANNA JUST REALLY WANNA THANK STAFF FOR LAYING IT OUT THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE.
HONESTLY, THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL TO GET A BRIEFING, SOAK IT IN AND COME BACK.
I KNOW WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THAT TIME, BUT THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL.
UM, THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP, I KNOW AT THE END IT MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COORDINATION WITH THE E O, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK THAT'S HAPPENING.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE FURTHER? AND, AND I SHOULD JUST CLARIFY.
SO THE, IN THE PROJECT CONNECT COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, MY PROJECT CONNECT, HAD WE REALLY RECOMMENDED THAT WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE INCREASINGLY AS WE'RE
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LOOKING AT THE STATION AREAS BEYOND THE WALK SHED, I THINK THE BIKE SHED IS BECOMING AN IMPORTANT ASPECT TO CONSIDER THE IMPACTS IN HOW WE LOOK INTO THIS, PLEASE.UM, THAT IS AN ASPIRATIONAL STATEMENT AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE COME, UH, AND, AND GIVEN A PRESENTATION, BUT REALLY THE, UH, THE THESIS IS THAT WE NEED TO BE SHARING ALL OF OUR TOOLS, INCLUDING, UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY PROBLEMS, WE NEED TO BRINGING THE TRANSPORTATION KIND OF DISCIPLINES TO THE TABLE AND WHAT LONGER RANGE THAN WALKING, YOU KNOW, IN A, I GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S LAND SPECULATION AROUND EVERY ONE OF THE PROJECT CONNECT STATIONS, UH, IN A WALKING RADIUS.
BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT FEEDING TRANSIT WITH NOT JUST WALKING, BUT WALKING AND BIKING AND SCOOTERING AND B CYCLE, AND WE BRING ALL THOSE TOOLS AND WE MAKE IT REAL AND WE PRIORITIZE OUR PROJECTS AND OUR STREET SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THAT REAL, THEN WHAT YOU DO IS DIFFUSE THE LAND SPECULATION.
YOU CAN, UH, PUT MORE AFFORDABILITY AND ANTI DISPLACEMENT STRATEGIES AT A GREATER PROXIMITY.
SO I, THAT WAS REALLY, UH, HOPEFULLY THE START OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, IS ANYTHING BEYOND THE HALF MILE VIABLE, AND I THINK I'M SAYING THAT KIND OF RHETORICALLY, BUT, UM, AND UP TO TWO MILES WOULD BE QUITE IMPRESSIVE IF WE COULD REALLY BRING THAT WHOLE CAPTURE THAT I DIDN'T SAY IT 16 TIMES THE LAND AREA, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ENORMOUS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'RE GONNA GET ON A TRAIN THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO BUILD.
THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
UH, I MEAN, JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THAT, UH, JUST TO COMMENT MORE, UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY SAD THAT WE HAVE DONE SUCH A POOR JOB AT, AT PLANNING OUR CITY THAT IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE CAN'T BUILD NICE THINGS BECAUSE THAT MIGHT MAKE EVEN MORE PEOPLE NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.
UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DEPEND ON BIKES AS TRANSPORTATION MOST ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE POOREST, UH, OF OUR CITIZENS AND NOT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM, YOU KNOW, SAFE ROUTES TO, TO WORK AND SCHOOL IS, I, I DON'T KNOW, NOT, NOT RIGHT.
CAN, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THINGS MOVE FROM PLANNING TO ACTUALITY? AND, AND I, I'VE BROUGHT THIS EXAMPLE UP A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE, BUT I, I WAS PARTICULARLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE RED RIVER RECONSTRUCTION OF RED RIVER, AND I JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A STREET THAT WE BUILT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE GROUND UP WHEN WE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, CONTROL THE LAND THAT'S NEXT TO IT AND IS ON A ALL AGES AND ABILITIES, BIKEWAY HAS A PAINTED LINE IN THE DOOR ZONE OF CARS.
H HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? WHAT, WHAT WENT WRONG THAT THAT WASN'T, AND AND JUST ACROSS MLK ON THE, ON THE UT SIDE, YOUT DID A GREAT JOB OF IT.
SO WHAT, WHAT WENT WRONG? HOW DID THE PLAN NOT TURN INTO A, A REALITY OF WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A TRUE ALL AGES AND ABILITY BIKE WAY? AND I WOULD NEVER PUT, YOU KNOW, A, AN EIGHT YEAR OLD ON THAT.
WE, WE AGREE, WE'RE A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED WITH HOW THE 12 TO, FROM GETTING MY GEOGRAPHY RIGHT, 15TH SECTION, WELL, AND THE 15TH TO MLK SECTION TURNED OUT FOR THAT MATTER.
AND THEN THE ON UT PROPER NORTH OF MLK TURNED OUT QUITE NICE, BUT THE ANSWER WOULD BE KIND OF COMPLICATED.
THE, THE KIND OF SHORT OF IT WOULD BE THE BOTH OF THOSE KIND OF LESSER SECTIONS SOUTH OF MLK WERE NEGOTIATED AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
UM, AND IT, IT JUST GETS COMPLICATED WHEN, UM, DECISION MAKING IS KIND OF, UH, I DON'T KNOW, UH,
YOU KNOW, ONE WAS CENTRAL HEALTH, THE OTHER ONE WAS THE UT MEDICAL COMPLEX, AND THEN THE ONE IN UT PROPER, THERE'S ACTUALLY A STORY BEHIND IT AND INVOLVED A LOT OF INTERNAL TO UT ADVOCACY.
UM, THEY GOT THE RIGHT PEOPLE'S ATTENTION AND THEY CAME TO US FOR ADVICE AND WE GAVE THEM ADVICE AND THEY FOLLOWED IT AND THEY BUILT SOMETHING QUITE NICE.
SO, UH, AS FAR AS THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW THINGS GO FROM PLAN, HOW DID WE GET THAT SAME ADVOCACY ON, ON OUR CITY STREETS THAT UT GOT ON ON THEIRS? WELL, THIS IS PROBABLY WEIGH IN THE WEEDS, LIKE THE BROADER QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, UM, MUCH OF THOSE, THOSE
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ARE KIND OF OUR INTERVENTION EFFORTS TO GET COMPLETE STREETS OUTCOMES, WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT.AND WE DO THAT KIND OF WORK EVERY DAY.
UM, THESE THREE PLANS ALSO PRIORITIZE SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES, WHICH IS MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S NOT YOUR QUESTION.
UM, BUT IF THAT IS PROBABLY AN IMPORTANT THING TO CLARIFY IF IT IS PART OF YOUR QUESTION.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY 80 TO 90% OF IT IS HOW WE TURN OUR PLANS INTO BUILT IMPROVEMENTS WHERE, UH, THROUGH WHAT PROCESS.
BUT I, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS I SEE THE PLAN, BUT IF, IF WE DON'T ACTUALLY DO THE PLAN WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WHAT, WHAT GOOD IS THE PLAN? AND, AND, AND I GUESS ARE WE REALLY BUYING INTO THAT PLAN AND, AND MAYBE, MAYBE A LESS BROAD PLAN WITH MORE TEETH MIGHT, MIGHT BE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'D MAKE US TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE PRIORITY O OF THESE THINGS RATHER THAN HAVE AS MANY STREETS ON THERE IF WE'RE NOT GONNA ACTUALLY ACTUALLY DO THEM WHEN WE GET THE CHANCE.
WELL, FOR THOSE TWO, FOR THAT STREET THAT YOU BROUGHT IN QUESTION, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ENDED UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER.
AND OUR PLAN HAD ALL THE TEETH THAT IT SHOULD HAVE HAD.
UM, AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, I, I STILL SEE A LOT OF NEWLY CONSTRUCTED LANES THAT ARE REALLY JUST TWO LANES ON, ON ONE SIDE, AND I THINK THAT GOES AGAINST BEST PRACTICE POLICY MOST PLACES.
UM, SO, SO WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN? I HEARD WE DID ONE THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST BIKE LANES IN THE WHOLE CITY EARLIER.
UH, NO, BUT THAT WAS A JOKE
THE, THE REAL QUESTION WAS DO WE DO PAINTED ONLY NON-PROTECTED NON ALL AGES AND ABILITIES BIKE LANES, UM, OR DO WE PUT BOTH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY MAKE IT AN IN STREET TRAIL, A TWO-WAY PROTECTED BIKE LANE ON ONE SIDE AND CONNECT, YOU KNOW, FIVE MILES OF THE SHOLL CREEK TRAIL GAP.
AND YOU KNOW, WE TESTED THAT RIGOROUSLY WITH THE PUBLIC.
WE HAD FIVE ALTERNATIVES AND YOU KNOW, THE OTH THE EXTREME ALTERNATIVE WOULD'VE BEEN TO REMOVE ALL THE PARKING, UM, YOU KNOW, THREE MILES OF, UM, THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING.
AND THAT WAS ALSO NOT KIND OF THE PREFERRED ROUTE FOR UNDERSTANDABLE REASONS.
SO, UM, THEY ALSO REDUCE CRASHES BY 30% EGREGIOUS, SPEEDING BY 90% AND WORK OUT OKAY, DO IT
ARE THERE QUESTIONS? UM, COMMISSIONER AL, LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE FIRST.
I HAVE ONE, SHE'S ALREADY GONE OFF YOU.
HEY, SO, UH, I ONLY HAVE A BIKE AND SO I'M QUITE OFTEN OUT THERE AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, IS WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF LIKE EAST FIFTH OR LIKE FIFTH STREET ALL THE WAY ACROSS AND SIXTH STREET AND THE L A B JUST KIND OF STARTS AND DIES AND STARTS AND DIES AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE LIKE ASK ME WHERE TO GO AND PICK UP THE TRAIL AGAIN.
AND SO, UM, IT SEEMED LIKE FOR A WHILE THERE WE WERE SEEING A LOT OF TRAILS OPEN AND I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT FEELING LIKE WE'VE HAD THAT IN A LONG TIME.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, ARE WE ABOUT TO HAVE THEM BREAK GROUND AGAIN, ESPECIALLY IN THE URBAN SETTING WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR LIFE AND YOUR OWN HANDS QUITE OFTEN TO JUMP ON A BIKE AND IT'D BE GREAT IF IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE SO SCARY.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT'S NEXT TO HELP MAKE IT TO WHERE WE CAN SEE BETTER ADOPTION THROUGH SAFETY? YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE NEXT TRAILS FROM YOU BET ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY IN THE URBAN CORE WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST POTENTIAL RIDERS AND FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN, BUT UM, ON LIKE, ON THE SALTILLO KIND OF BIKE PATH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST TALKING TO CAT METRO, WE'RE UM, KICKING IN SOME POSSIBLE MONEY IN A RAISE GRANT THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR AS WE SPEAK.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S NOT GONNA OPEN TOMORROW.
AND DO YOU WANNA BRING UP ANY OTHERS? WELL, I CAN ALSO MENTION THAT WE'RE ALSO APPLYING FOR A RAISE GRANT THAT BREAKS FROM SPUR, BUT WHILE NOT SUPER SUPER CENTRAL, IT'S STILL PRETTY CENTRAL FOR BOSTON THESE DAYS.
SO THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF THIN WHITE.
UM, AND THAT WILL BE A VERY LARGE TRAIL, ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILES.
UM, WE ALSO ARE ABOUT TO BREAK GROUND ON AUSTIN'S DEMEANOR TRAIL, WHICH IS ALSO NOT SUPER CENTRAL, BUT UM, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR, HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS.
UM, SO THE DEVELOPMENT HAS ALMOST REACHED OUT TO WHERE THAT IS AT THIS POINT.
BUT WE DO HAVE ABOUT 12 MILES OF TRAILS THAT ARE EITHER IN PROCESS OR GONNA BE, UM, STARTED THIS YEAR.
SO THERE IS A LOT COMING DOWN THE PIPE AND THAT IS MOSTLY THE MOBILITY BONDS.
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UM, IN ANYTHING IN CENTRAL AUSTIN IS ALWAYS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER BECAUSE OF LAND, RIGHT? SO A LOT OF OUR TRAILS ARE ALONG CREEKS OR, UM, PARK, PARK LAND AND SO WE TAKE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN WE CAN GET THEM, BUT UM, IT IS TOUGH, JUST LIKE DEVELOPING IN CENTRAL AUSTIN IS TOUGH.AND WHAT ABOUT FIFTH AND SIXTH? YEAH, I'LL JUST BRIEFLY SPEAK TO THOSE SPECIFICALLY OR, UH, GENERALLY WITH THE, WITH RESPECT TO THE DOWNTOWN, AS YOU SAID, THEY'RE, THE AUSTIN CORE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS OUR UPDATE TO, TO THAT GRID NETWORK AND IT REALLY IS LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE, ALL THE MODES AND HOW WE MIGHT PRIORITIZE HOW THOSE GET ORGANIZED IN THE DOWNTOWN.
SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE THAT ENERGY AND FOCUS IS RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN I WOULD JUST BACK TO, YOU KNOW, A BIT OF RED RIVER AND JUST EMBRACING, UH, GETTING BETTER, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS A MORE PERFECT CITY.
LIKE I THINK WE DEFINITELY EMBRACE INCREMENTALISM AND, AND SEE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS WHAT IS LACKING THERE AND, AND, AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO JUST DON'T GIVE UP HOPE
I'M, I'M GLAD YOU ALL NOTICED THAT CUZ IT IS SPECTACULARLY BAD AND IT'S SUCH AN EASY CONNECTION FROM MILLER TO DOWNTOWN AND MILLER'S GETTING BUILT OUT AND IT, IT IT'S, IT'S VERY UPSETTING ACTUALLY.
IT'S, AND THEN THE LANES ARE SO WIDE.
I MEAN, AND I AM CURIOUS, ARE THERE ANY CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS WITH AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT TO NOT REQUIRE US TO HAVE LANES THAT ARE BY DESIGN DEADLY 100% OF THE TIME SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE GIGANTIC TRUCKS 0.001% OF THE TIME COMPARED TO OUR PEERS WHO SOMEHOW DON'T BURN DOWN AND ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE SMALLER LANES THAT ARE SAFER FOR EVERYBODY? YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME SAY THIS ON THE RECORD.
UM, NO, WITH THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL THAT WENT LIVE IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD, UM, STREET DESIGN KIND OF CHARACTERISTICS BAKED INTO THAT.
OUR, WE USED TO GO TO AFD FOR LIKE LITERALLY EVERY PROJECT TO GET GEOMETRY, UH, TO GET THEIR APPROVAL.
AND THE TCM KIND OF GIVES US THE COVER TO GET REALLY GOOD OUTCOMES.
UM, CAN THE WORLD KNOW ABOUT THAT? CAUSE I FEEL LIKE RBJ, UM, BRODY OAKS, THERE'S ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE DOING 10, 11 FOOT DESIGNS AND THEN AUSTIN FIRE SAYS, NO, WE WANT YOU TO HAVE A, A MUCH LESS SAFE DESIGN.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY SAY, BUT THAT'S THE OUTCOME AND IT'S MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER, IT'S MORE MONEY AND IT'S LESS SAFE AND WE'RE GIVING WORSE OUTCOMES AS A RESULT.
AND NO ONE SEEMS TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO IT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT WE CAN DO TO FIX THIS FOR ACTUAL STREETS, NOT DRIVEWAYS.
THAT GETS COMPLICATED WHEN YOU, UM, YEAH, THEY WANT 25 FEET, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? CORRECT.
UH, YEAH, I THINK WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET INTO JUST ONE LANE EACH WAY AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT DOWN TO 20, IT GETS COMPLICATED.
PURE CITIES ARE FIGURING IT OUT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN TOO.
ALL RIGHT, THREE MORE SPOTS FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, THERE WAS A POINT ABOUT, UH, HOW MUCH COULD MOVE AT HALF A MILE, A MILE, TWO MILES.
AND SO I WONDER, SINCE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS, I WONDER, I WONDER IF WE HAVE SPOKEN TO SAY A I S D LIDER, I S D AND ROUND ROCK I S D THAT ALL HAVE SCHOOLS IN OUR CITY LIMITS ABOUT WHAT THEIR WALKING VERSUS BUSING, UH, SO THEIR WALKING, BIKING, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THEIR STUDENTS VERSUS THEIR BUSING DISTANCES.
AND I WONDER IF THAT MIGHT PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT INTO, UM, FEASIBLE DISTANCES.
THERE'S REALLY GOOD DATA ON IT.
SO REALLY FROM A, WHEN I SAY TWO MILES, I'M TALKING ABOUT TO A STATION BECAUSE IT IMPLIES A MODAL TRANSFER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL COST OF, YOU KNOW, TIME, COST OF TRAVEL, RIGHT? UM, IF IT'S JUST A BICYCLE SCOOTER TRIP, YOU KNOW, SAY FROM YOUR HOME TO A SCHOOL OR TO YOUR WORK OR THE STORE OR WHATEVER PARK, UM, YOU KNOW, LONGER RANGES ARE KIND OF REASONABLE.
SO ZERO TO THREE IS LIKE VERY COMMON, YOU KNOW, BICYCLE, YOU KNOW, E-BIKES START PUSHING, PUSHING THAT QUITE A, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO DO THAT.
UM, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, PEOPLE TAKE BICYCLE TRIPS OVER THREE MILES.
SO, UM, THE, THE DATA THAT WE PULLED IN THE
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2014 PLAN, UM, WHICH IT'S STILL REALLY GOOD DATA THAT, UM, THE NATIONAL KIND OF MODE PATTERNS FROM THE NETHERLANDS, UM, LIKE THE ONE AND A HALF TO THREE MILE RANGE BICYCLE IS THE PREDOMINANT MODE.AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S TOO LONG FOR WALKING AND, UH, TRANSIT.
YOU KNOW, DRIVING A CAR STILL DOESN'T YET MAKE THE MOST SENSE.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S THAT SWEET SPOT.
AND JUST TO ADD, WE HAVE A VERY, UM, STRONG, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROGRAM WITH OVER 6,000 RECOMMENDATIONS ACROSS THE CITY THAT SERVES EVERY I S D IN THE ENTIRE CITY'S JURISDICTION.
AND THERE'S WORK GOING ON, UM, REALLY EVERY DAY, A LOT OF THE WORK THAT JOHN EASTMAN'S CREW IS BUILDING AND, AND MY MY GROUP IS DESIGNING ON THEIR BEHALF IS HAPPENING TO, UM, CONTRIBUTE TO THESE NETWORKS IN THEIR OWN WAY, BUT IN, WITH SPECIFIC REGARD TO, UH, MAKING SURE THAT KIDS CAN WALK AND BIKE TO SCHOOL, UH, SAFELY.
SO IS THAT, THAT'S A HUGE PART OF OUR PORTFOLIO.
ANY FINAL QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU MOVE ON? ALL RIGHT.
I'M WONDERING IF I MIGHT TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND ON AN EARLIER ANSWER A LITTLE BIT.
I, I APPRECIATE YOUR, I YOUR PATIENCE, ESPECIALLY ALL THE TIME Y'ALL PUT IN.
UM, THE QUESTION, UH, ABOUT BOTH FUNDING AND IMPEDIMENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENTS I THINK IS, IS THE INERTIA IN, IN ALL OF OUR, OUR OWN THINKING, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND, AND, AND IT CARRIES FORWARD.
AND SO ONE QUICK ANALYSIS WE DID WAS WE, THE CITY PROVIDES SOMEWHERE ON THE BALLPARK OF HALF A MILLION FREE PARKING PLACES CITYWIDE.
UM, AND WE PROVIDE A LOT OF THOSE PARKING PLACES THAT ARE UNDERUTILIZED.
AND IN AREAS WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD CARS, YET, WE DON'T PROVIDE FREE TRANSIT PASSES.
AND SO THERE'S SOME, WE, I WAS VERY PROUD THAT THIS PLANNING PROCESS HAS RAISED THE IDEAS OF, UM, GUARANTEED BASIC MOBILITY AND BEING A LITTLE MORE EXPANSIVE IN OUR THINKING ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION, ESSENTIALLY THE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES WE'VE PROVIDE IN RETURN FOR THE TRANSPORTATION USER FEE CAN BE, UM, DON'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME AND MORE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
AND THERE'S, THAT'S BEEN EXPLORED, AND THAT ALSO GETS INTO, I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT THAT BUBBLED UP ORGANICALLY OUT OF THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD.
AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THAT EQUITABLE TRANSPORTATION, TRANSIT-ORIENTED DESIGN, AND THEY HAD THE EXACT SAME THING.
IT WAS ALMOST WORD FOR WORD, AND IT HAD, IT HAD RISEN INDEPENDENTLY.
WHEN I SEE THOSE KIND OF IDEAS THAT ARE VERY DIFFERENT, THINKING ABOUT HOW WE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES TO THOSE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND THE SERVICES THEY ACTUALLY NEED, UM, AND THEY'RE PAYING INTO THOSE SERVICES, RIGHT? WELL, IF YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT, YOU'VE EVEN AN AFFORDABLE APARTMENT IN, IN AUSTIN, YOU'RE PAYING INTO THE TRANSPORTATION USER FEE.
AND IF YOU DON'T OWN A CAR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING A BUNCH OF FREE PARKING SPACES YOU CAN'T USE, MAYBE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO SOME THINGS DIFFERENT.
SO, UM, JUST A PLUG FOR SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE GOING ON ABOUT THINKING DIFFERENT.
THAT WAS REALLY, UH, INFORMATIVE AND WE'LL SEE YOU BACK IN APRIL, RIGHT? YEP.
[42. Discussion and possible action appointing members to Planning Commission Working Groups.]
42 UNDER NOMINATIONS AND APPOINTMENTS.WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, BUT IT'S DISCUSSION IMPOSSIBLE ACTION OF APPOINTING MEMBERS TO PLANNING COMMISSION WORKING GROUPS.
SO THIS WAS, UM, THIS IS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE ARE LOSING SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONERS, UM, AND THE, THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS, UM, AND MAYBE JUST FOOD FOR A THOUGHT WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS TO COME ON.
UM, IN BOTH THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND THE WORKING GROUPS, THERE MAY BE SOME SPOTS OPEN.
UM, BUT I JUST WANNA OPEN IT UP FOR, FOR THOSE THAT ARE TO REMAIN ON, UM, THE EXISTING WORKING GROUP THAT WOULD HAVE AN OPENING OR TWO OPENINGS POTENTIALLY AS THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND DUPLEXES WORKING GROUP.
UM, COMMISSIONER SHAY AND COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER WILL BE MOVING OFF OF THAT.
SO, UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, OR IF THERE'S NONE, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THESE, THESE UPCOMING VACANCIES, UM, THERE'LL BE SOME SPOTS TO FILL.
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IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN JOINING THE, UH, DESIGN GUIDELINES UPDATE WORKING GROUP, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME, BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE THE MONDAY MEETING.IT JUST, IT'S LIKE THE WORST DAY FOR ME TO GO.
UH, IT'S EITHER, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN MY JOB OR BOA IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS A CONFLICT, SO I'M GONNA BE STEPPING DOWN OFF THAT ONE NIGHT NERVE TAKES ME TO SAY IT.
SO, UM, IF ANYBODY WHO'S STICKING AROUND IS INTERESTED YEAH.
INITIAL INTEREST FROM ANYONE HERE, YOU KIND OF GET FIRST DIBS.
UM, OTHERWISE,
IT IS REALLY FUN SHAPE OUR GUIDELINES.
CITY'S FUTURE WILL LOOK, THE SKYLINE COULD BE YOURS,
[43. Discussion and possible action to nominate members for Council consideration to be appointed to Joint Committees.]
WE'RE INDEFINITELY POSTPONING.THIS IS THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, UM, POSITIONS.
AND I, I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY WAIT FOR OUR, UH, NEW COMMISSIONERS WHILE WE THINK ABOUT WHO GOES TO WHICH ONE.
YOU MAY EVEN WANT TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER, UM, BORDER COMMITTEE, UM, IF YOU, IF THERE'S AN INTEREST THERE.
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FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, CLARIFICATION QUESTION ON THE ADU GROUP.UH, LET JUST KIND OF BREEZE THROUGH 42.
I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE INTERESTED IN THE ACCESSORY DWELLING? I KNOW WE KIND OF GLOSSED THROUGH THAT.
IS, IS THERE ANYONE THAT'S WANTING TO JOIN THAT GROUP? BECAUSE WE ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, LOSING TEAM MEMBERS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF LAST MEETING, IF, IF WE HAD, IF WE HAD AGREED ON THAT OR IF THAT WAS PUT FOR AN ACTION ITEM FOR TONIGHT.
THAT'S WHERE I WANT CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO BE WORKING WITH THAT GROUP, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK OR IF IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THIS WEEK.
WELL, I'M SEEING THAT YOU'RE ON THAT TEAM, RIGHT? YES.
UH, SO WE'RE LOSING SHAY CHAIR IF, UM, IN SCHNEIDER.
SO HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO, UM, THAT WE CAN SWITCH THOSE OUT, CORRECT? IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS? WE CAN, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY, UM, INTERESTED RIGHT NOW, BUT, OKAY.
YOU CAN, THE ONLY, THE ONLY YOU THERE, ONLY WORKING GROUP THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW THAT WILL HAVE OPENINGS CURRENTLY IS THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN DUPLEXES WORKING GROUP.
THERE'LL BE TWO SPOTS OPEN WITH COMMISSIONER SHAY AND SCHNEIDER LEAVING.
SO I SAW COMMISSIONER COXS AND HOWARD'S HANDS.
IS THAT THAT THAT MEAN? I'M SEEING TWO FOLKS THAT WANNA JOIN.
THEY WEREN'T, DIDN'T INDICATE THAT EARLIER, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THEM.
IS THERE A MOTION THERE? UH, YEAH.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REPLACE COMMISSIONER SHA AND SCHNEIDER WITH COMMISSIONERS HOWARD AND COX ON THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND DUPLEXES WORKING GROUP.
YOU HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER COX.
SO THE MOTION IS, UM, UH, REPLACING COMMISSIONERS SHAY AND SCHNEIDER WITH COMMISSIONERS COX AND HOWARD ON THE, THE ADU AND DUPLEXES WORKING GROUP.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON, DO WE GET TO DISCUSS IT? SURE.
IS THERE
THE DISCUSSION WAS ANDREW, PLEASE, SIR.
CHAIR COMMISSION LEES ON ANDREW RIVERA.
SO, UM, THIS IS KIND OF A, A TRANSITION MEETING, UM, PRIOR TO, UM, WHAT COULD BE A, UM, A NUMBER OF, UH, APPOINTMENTS TAKING PLACE MARCH 9TH.
SO MARCH 14TH, YOUR NEXT, UH, COMMISSION MEETING, UM, THOSE MEMBERS APPOINTED ON MARCH 9TH COULD BE IN THEIR PLACE.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST, UH, SOMETHING TO, UM, CONSIDER, I MEAN, YOU COULD, UH, POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO MARCH 14TH.
UH, IT'S CERTAINLY THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION QUESTION.
UM, CAN I SPEAK, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK, UH, TO THE MOTION.
I THINK IT WOULD BE FREE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THIS MOVE BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THAT, UH, THERE IS TRANSITION AND WE'RE GONNA LOSE SOME MEMBERS.
BUT, UH, UM, SOMEBODY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE.
I MEAN, IF THOSE, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE MOVING ON STILL
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WANNA PARTICIPATE, AS, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY WON'T AFFECT OUR QUORUM AND THEY CAN STILL HELP US GET THEIR, IF THEY WANNA BE PART OF, YOU KNOW, GIVE INPUT TO THE WORKING GROUP.UH, MR. AVARA, CAN YOU, COULD WE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS AT THE TIME OF WHEN THOSE FOLKS ROLL OVER? SO WE'RE MAKING A MOTION THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS FROM THE MEETING THAT THEY ROLL OVER, THE NEXT PERSON GETS APPOINTED? OR IS THAT A CONTINGENT MOTION THAT WOULD NOT WORK? I, I THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF, UH, NOT HAVING A, A, UM, UH, ROLLING QUORUM PER SE.
UH, IF WE JUST, UM, EITHER, UH, TAKE ACTION OR POSTPONING ON.
I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. VER YOU'RE RIGHT.
THAT WOULD CREATE A VERY COMPLICATED ROLLING QUO ISSUE.
CAN WE GET LIKE, A BUDGET TO HIRE SHAY AS LIKE OUR STAFF ARCHITECT?
COULD I JUST POINT OUT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SERVE ON A WORKING GROUP MM-HMM.
SO, I'M, I'M CONFUSED ON IF WE'RE THERE IS A MOTION ON THE TABLE, SO WE DO NEED TO VOTE ON IT.
THERE'S A MOTION THAT WAS SECONDED.
SO I, I'M, I'M GONNA SPEAK IN FAVOR OF IT.
UM, I THINK THAT THE TRANSITION FOR, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THE 14TH, BUT IT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN BY THE 28TH.
I, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC, BUT JUST FOR PURPOSES OF NOT MESSING UP THE QUORUM, UH, I, I'M HAPPY TO STEP BACK AND LET SOMEBODY REPLACE ME AT THIS TIME.
THEN IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE AS A NON-COMMISSION MEMBER, I'D BE DELIGHTED.
SO, UM, MY TAKE ON THIS THING IS, UM, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE ON IT.
UM, I HAVE A LOT TO DOWNLOAD TO THIS WORKING GROUP, AND I HAVE, UM, COLLEAGUES IN AIA THAT I HAVE BROUGHT ON BOARD TO JOIN OUR WORKING GROUP TO ASSIST AS WELL.
SO THAT SHOULD HELP ALSO WITH THE TRANSITION, UM, AS I CAN HAND OFF AS MUCH AS I CAN, AND ALSO DOWNLOAD AS MUCH OF MY CONCERNS TO THE WORKING GROUP.
UM, THERE, THERE'S A LOT TO COVER, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP GET THIS INFORMATION ACROSS TO THE WORKING GROUP.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UM, HAVING COMMISSIONERS, COX AND HOWARD, COME ON TO THE WORKING GROUP, MENTIONED EARLIER.
UNANIMOUS ON THE DIAS, UH, VIRTUALLY THOSE AGAINST THOSE ABSTAINING COMMISSION.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, NUMBER 43, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD ON THAT ONE UNTIL WE DO GET OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS.
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I ALWAYS HAVE IDEAS AND FORGET 'EM CAUSE IT'S SILLY
UM, JUST A, A SUGGESTION, UM, THE WALK BIKE ROLL PLAN THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT, UM, I'M NOT OFFERING TO BE ON THIS WORKING GROUP, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN CONSIDERATION, UM, OF A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM BEING PUT ON FOR A WORKING GROUP HAVING TO DO WITH THAT, WHICH IS COMING BACK IN APRIL.
SO THERE WOULD BE PLENTY OF TIME TO REVIEW, UM, AND COME UP WITH AMENDMENTS.
COMMISSIONER ZAR IS MY SECOND.
UM, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? HELLO, CHAIR? YES.
UM, I, YES, I'VE RECEIVED EMAILS, UH, FROM, IT'S, UH, NAN DOWLING, UM, PROJECT COORDINATOR WITH PROJECT CONNECT, AND I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO GET ON OUR AGENDA, SO, UH, TO GIVE US A BRIEFING.
AND I THINK ANDREW, UH, RIVERA MAY BE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.
THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER AZA ON THAT.
YES, I, I, THIS IS A QUICK COMMENT FOR ALL MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, BUT ALSO IF ANYONE IS AWAKE AT THIS HOUR LISTENING WAS,
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UM, STARTING MARCH 21ST, THERE WILL BE A RELEASE OF INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROJECT CONNECT ALIGNMENTS AND STATION AREA.SO THE LIGHT DRILL PLANNING STARTS, UM, IN EARNEST WITH SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MOVING TOWARDS DECISION MAKING IN JUNE.
I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT FOLKS HERE CAN ENGAGE IN THIS.
THIS IS TRULY ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL AND IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE IN THIS PROJECT AND DEFINES OUR CITIES FOR, FRANKLY, DECADES TO COME.
I JUST, I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE WHO IS INTERESTED, KNOWLEDGEABLE, OR CARES ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE IN THAT.
UH, OTHER AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.
I CAN TELL PEOPLE ARE GETTING ANTSY.
WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
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COMMITTEES AND WORKING GROUP UPDATES, CODES AND ORDINANCES.UM, WE'RE MEETING, WELL, WE'RE CURRENTLY DISCUSSING, UH, THE MEETING FOR NEXT MONTH IN MARCH.
UM, IT'S, IT WOULD TRADITIONALLY BE HELD DURING SPRING BREAK, SO WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE GONNA MEET QUORUM.
UM, HAVEN'T DETERMINED THAT YET, SO NO UPDATES THERE.
CHAIR COMMISSION LADIES ON ANDREW? YES.
UH, JUST I, UM, IF I CAN, UM, STRESS TO THE CURRENT MEMBERS, O C O JC ON PLANNING COMMISSION, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT YOUR, UM, ATTENDANCES, UM, UH, CRUCIAL, UM, BECAUSE, UM, UH, WITH THE LAST APPOINTMENTS, ALMOST ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE ZONING AND PLANE COMMISSION, UH, WHO ARE ON THE C OJC HAVE, UM, BEEN APPOINTED OR ARE EITHER MOVING OFF THE ZAP OR, UM, OTHER MEMBERS HAVE BEEN APPOINTED.
UM, SO, UM, IT'S TRYING TO MEET QUORUM.
UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE, COMMISSIONER COX, UH, ON MY CALENDAR IS MARCH 23RD IS OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE DATE THAT, UH, THE, THE FOLKS THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING TO ARE GONNA PRESENT TO OUR COMMITTEE AS WELL.
UH, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMI COMMITTEE, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.
WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE FOLKS WHO JUST PRESENTED TO US.
UH, SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.
COMMISSIONER HOWARD, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MEETING THIS MONTH.
UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT DATE, BUT WE HAVEN'T MET JUST YET.
AND THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.
WELL, WE WILL HAVE TO FILL YOUR SPOT.
UM, ADU AND DUPLEXES WORKING GROUP.
ANY UPDATES THERE? UH, THE ONLY THING I'VE GOTTEN SO FAR, UM, IS I, I GOT THE, UH, THE HELP FROM AIA.
SO WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO'S GONNA BE THERE TO, UH, PROVIDE WHATEVER, UM, INFORMATION BACKGROUND WE NEED.
SO ONE CAN'T MAKE IT, WE'LL STILL HAVE THE OTHER ONE.
SO, UM, BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, GREAT DESIGN GUIDELINES, UPDATE WORKING GROUP, UM, STILL MEETING REGULARLY WITH THE, UH, THE GROUP, THE SUBGROUP I'M WORKING WITH.
UM, AND I, I DID REACH OUT TO OUR LIAISON ON THE DESIGN COMMISSION TO SEE IF THERE'S A BROADER UPDATE THAT I CAN GET FROM THEIR LEADERSHIP ON THAT WORKING GROUP, UM, TO BE ABLE TO BETTER PROVIDE YOU A MORE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE THE NEXT TIME THIS COMES AROUND.
AND THEN THE PALM DISTRICT WORKING GROUP CHAIR COHEN, UH, THE PALM DISTRICT WORKING GROUP TO NOT MEET, TO, WELL NOT BE MEETING AGAIN TILL AFTER SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.
SO PROBABLY MAYBE, UH, I'M GONNA END FOR LAST MONTH, OR SORRY, LAST WEEK OF MARCH.
AND THEN WE'LL START, UH, WITH THE LISTING SESSIONS IN EARNEST BEGINNING OF APRIL BEFORE OUR FIRST MEETING.
SO MAYBE BY THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN APRIL, WE'LL HAVE SOME UPDATES THERE.
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WE ADJOURN, I JUST WANTED TO THANK AND RECOGNIZE OUR FOUR, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT WILL BE ROLLING OFF.UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND I DID WANNA ALLOW FOR SOME TIME FOR YOU TO SAY WORDS.
UM, IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I'LL START WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER GIANNIS POLITO.
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THANK YOU FOR FILLING THE ROLE OF, OF VICE CHAIR AND TO CHAIR SHAW FOR, UM, FOR STEWARDING US IN THIS, THIS, UH, LAST HOWEVER LONG.IT'S, IT FEELS LIKE I HAVE NO SENSE OF TIME.
I CAME ON THIS COMMISSION IN THE SUMMER OF 2019, AND A LOT HAS HAPPENED.
UM, BUT I, I ALWAYS REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE EFFORT THAT YOU CHAIR SHAW AND OTHER CHAIRS ON THIS COMMISSION HAVE PUT INTO, UM, STEWARDING THE TIME AND MAKING SURE WE ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES.
UM, Y'ALL KNOW, I ALWAYS STRUGGLED WITH PARLIAMENTARIANISM HERE, BUT, UM, I LEARNED A LOT FROM EACH ONE OF YOU IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, DO I WANNA GET ON A SOAPBOX ONE MORE TIME? DO I WANNA BE EXTRA KIND
THIS IS THE END OF MY TERM, UM, ON PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT WAS ACTUALLY THE END OF 10 CONSECUTIVE YEARS FOR ME AS A CITY OF AUSTIN COMMISSIONER.
UM, I JOINED THE INAUGURAL INDEPENDENT CITIZENS REDISTRICTING COMMISSION IN MAY OF 2013 AND SERVED FOR EIGHT YEARS.
I CHAIR, I VICE-CHAIR AND CHAIR THE LATINO QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSION, UM, FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE COMING ONTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND, UM, I'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THAT TIME.
I'M STILL LEARNING HOW TO ENGAGE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DIAS.
UM, BUT I DO TRULY BELIEVE THAT OF ALL OF THE ISSUES WE DEBATE AND ENGAGE IN, IN POLITICS AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL, LAND USE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
IT'S THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL, IT'S THE MOST POWER, UM, THAT OUR CITY HAS TO, TO DETERMINE THE, THE FUTURE OF AUSTIN, AND ESPECIALLY TO INFLUENCE, UM, ANY INTERRUPTION THAT WE CAN OF THE MARKET AND TRYING TO GET WHAT WE WANT, UM, AS THINGS SO RAPIDLY CHANGE.
UM, I REALLY WANNA THANK STAFF, ESPECIALLY THE REMAINING STAFF, HEATHER CHAFFIN, HANG IN THERE.
UM, YOU WERE, YOU WERE GREAT THIS EVENING.
AND
AND I ALSO JUST WANNA SAY TO THE REST OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UM, IN ADDITION TO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, JUST DON'T FORGET QUALITY.
UM, AND REMEMBER WHO, WHO WE'RE DOING THIS FOR AND WHO BENEFITS, WHO'S EXPLOITED, WHO'S EXCLUDED, WHO'S UNDERSERVED.
UM, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS WITH NEW HOUSING, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MOST.
UM, SO Y'ALL WILL PROBABLY SEE ME ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DIAS.
I HOPE TO SEE YOU IN COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS, UH, A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME.
ALSO, I HAVE TO SAY TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF NOT ONLY DISTRICT NINE, BUT ALL OVER THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD'VE LASTED THIS LONG UP HERE WITHOUT THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE PUBLIC.
UM, AND THAT IS TRULY, I THINK WHAT MAKES AUSTIN'S CULTURE BESIDES THE INCREDIBLE LAND WE LIVE ON, UM, IS THE DEGREE TO WHICH PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO ENGAGE AND GIVE THEIR TIME, UH, TO TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS AND PRESERVE WHAT WE CARE ABOUT THE MOST.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'LL BE SHOWING UP FOR THE NEXT MEETING OR NOT, BUT, UM, IF NOT, MAYBE I'LL, UH, JUST TRY AND SAY MY PIECE RIGHT NOW.
UM, I, UH, ALSO TO ECHO, UM, UH, MY COLLEAGUE CARMEN PO UM, HATS OFF TO THE STAFF, UM, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING STAFF, WHAT A DIFFICULT JOB, JUST PEOPLE YELLING AT YOU CONSTANTLY.
AND, UH, SINCERE THANKS TO MR. RIVERA, WHO'S, UM, UH, MANAGED, UH, THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION.
UH, OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, UM, REALLY EXCELLENT WORK.
AND I, I CAN'T, MAYBE THERE WAS ONE TIME HE, UH, HE MISSED A MEETING THAT I'M AWARE OF.
BUT, UM, SO, UH, I, UH, STARTED OFF INCREDIBLY GREEN ON THESE ISSUES.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M JUST MODERATELY BETTER NOW.
UM, BUT I THINK I, I HAVE OBSERVED THE PROCESS AND WHAT HAS OCCURRED TO ME IS THAT, UM, THE DECISIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES ARE BEST WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH AN APPRECIATION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF INCREASED DENSITY IN THE CITY, AND IDEALLY, EVEN SOME EXCITEMENT ABOUT INCREASED DENSITY AND WHAT IT CAN BRING TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I THINK WE MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS WHEN DEVELOPERS COME TO THE COMMISSION WITH A RESPECT AND APPRECIATION FOR THE 150 YEARS OF INVESTMENT THAT THE
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PEOPLE OF AUSTIN HAVE MADE, AND HOW THEY SHOULD RESPECT THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE LEVERAGING THAT FOR THEIR PROFIT DEVELOPMENT IS NECESSARY.BUT, UM, WHEN BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS AND DEVELOPERS COME WITH A RESPECT FOR WHAT EACH OTHER BRING, I THINK THAT'S, UH, IT MAKES THE PROCESS A LOT BETTER.
AND LIKEWISE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME HEATED MOMENTS ON THE COMMISSION, UM, BUT, UM, OFTEN WE'VE HAD, UM, MOMENTS WHERE WE'RE SINCERELY LISTENING TO ONE ANOTHER, AND WE MAKE COM ADVISORS IN OUR POSITION BASED ON THE, THE OPINIONS OF OTHERS SPRING.
SO I, I, I HOPE THAT CONTINUES AND EXPANDS, UH, IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO THANK THE, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THAT I'VE SERVED WITH, UM, FOR THEIR WORK, PARTICULARLY THE CHAIRS AND THE VICE CHAIRS, UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER HEMPEL, UH, COMMISSIONER SHAW FOR YOUR WORK RECENTLY.
IT'S CLEAR THAT, UM, YOU HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU HAVE RESPECT FOR THE PROCESS, AND IT'S OBVIOUS THAT EVERYBODY WHO'S SERVING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION REALLY LOVES OUR CITY AS I DO.
UM, COMMISSIONER SHAY, I DON'T
WELL, UM, AGAIN, I, I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS.
I WAS, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN MY TIME'S UP.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, I'M GONNA CONTINUE HELPING AS MUCH AS I CAN, ESPECIALLY WITH, UH, SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME THINGS THAT I'D SET IN MOTION.
SO, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS, DON'T WORRY, I'LL, I'LL STAY ON BOARD AS MU MUCH AS I CAN AS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR WORKING GROUPS.
UM, BUT, UM, I MEAN, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN, WHAT, EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE SERVED ON THIS COMMISSION.
UM, AND IT'S JUST AMAZING TO HAVE BEEN AROUND SO MANY GREAT PEOPLE WHO REALLY PUT SO MUCH HEART INTO HELPING TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER.
ALL OF US ON THE DIAS, ALL OF US ON SCREEN, ALL OF US BEFORE US.
I MEAN, THE COUNTLESS HOURS, THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WE PUT IN, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY.
I KEEP THINKING ABOUT ALL THOSE TIMES THAT WE SPENT.
I MEAN, GOING THROUGH TWO SETS OF CODE REWRITES, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN TO SEE A LOT OF WORK THAT WE HAD DONE AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FIZZLE AWAY, YOU KNOW? SO I, I HOPE I CAN CHALLENGE ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY, THOSE OF US ON THE COMMISSIONS, TO, TO REALLY KIND OF LOOK THROUGH ALL OF THAT WORK THAT WAS DONE AND SEE IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.
CUZ THERE WERE SOME GREAT IDEAS ON THERE.
AND, AND I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES AT WHAT, WHY ARE WE STARTING OVER? YOU KNOW? UM, AND SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO, TO, TO KIND OF LOOK AT STUFF THAT WE'VE ALREADY LEARNED IN THE PAST AND BRING THAT BACK CUZ THERE WAS SOME GREAT IDEAS.
AND, UM, I HOPE, I HOPE THE COMMISSIONERS HERE CAN, CAN, CAN BRING THAT FORWARD AND CONTINUE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, LOOKING FOR THAT, UM, MY TIME ON THE COMMISSION.
SO I, THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW, I I I'VE BEEN ON COMMISSION SINCE I STARTED AT ZAP, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO.
AND I SERVED UNDER A COUNCIL MEMBER THERE, THEN IT WAS ON DESIGN COMMISSION WITH TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I CHAIRED THAT AND THEN HERE, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S BEEN WHAT I WOULD THINK ALMOST 20 YEARS, JUST PRETTY NUTS.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN AROUND ME, WHO'S HELPED GUIDE ME.
AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE I CAN CONTINUE TO GUIDE, UM, YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE POSSIBLY FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, I'M GONNA TAKE A LOT FROM WHAT I'VE LEARNED HERE AND SEE IF I COULD PUT IT IN PRACTICE, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, ANYWAY, SO I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR MAKING MY TIME HERE.
ANDREW, THANK YOU FOR, UM, GUIDING ME EVEN THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT CHAIR, YOU KNOW, THIS CHAIR.
UM, BUT I'M GONNA MISS, I'M GONNA MISS YOU GUYS.
I'M GONNA MISS, UM, BEING UP HERE WITH YOU GUYS.
UM, I ALSO WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND ALL OF THE STAFF CUZ I KNOW THAT NO MATTER WHAT, YOU KNOW, CONFLICTS WE HAVE AND, AND, AND DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE ON, ON THE WAYS TO DO THINGS, I, I KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF YOU CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE CITY A AND REALLY WANT TO CREATE THE BEST CITY THAT
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WE CAN.AND, AND, AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT OUR VISION FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW, ONE THAT'S, THAT'S EQUITABLE AND DYNAMIC AND, YOU KNOW, CONNECTED IT IS REALLY NOT ALL THAT DIFFERENT.
UM, AND SO I HOPE THAT WITH ALL OF, YOU KNOW, OUR DISCUSSION AND, AND AND DELIBERATION THAT WE CAN GET THERE, YOU KNOW, OR AT LEAST MOVE CLOSER TO THAT, THAT PERFECT CITY THAT WE KNOW.
UM, I, I'VE, I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR I GUESS EIGHT YEARS NOW.
UM, WHEN I JOINED, I, I WAS REALLY SORT OF MY, MY COUNCIL MEMBER AND I HAD WORKED TOGETHER ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TEAM AND THEN HE GOT ELECTED AND ASKED ME TO, TO COME SIT HERE.
AND I, I DIDN'T QUITE KNOW WHAT I WOULD DO WITH, CUZ I, I KNEW MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I KNEW WHAT I WANTED FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE CITY, WHAT I WANTED FOR THE REST OF THE CITY OR NEEDED.
AND SO I'VE SORT OF GROWN, UH, AND CHANGED, UM, A AS AND REALLY GOTTEN TO KNOW THE CITY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, RIDE MY BIKE OR DRIVE TO EACH OF THE, YOU KNOW, LOCATIONS TO SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEEKEND BEFORE THE MEETINGS TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON A AND REALLY LEARNED A AND SORT OF SORT OF, YOU KNOW, MY LOVE FOR THE CITY HAS, HAS GROWN SINCE THEN.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I JUST, I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN CONTINUE TO, TO CREATE THE AUSTIN THAT WE, WE DESERVE BEAUTIFUL WORDS, EVERYBODY.
I'M
BUT FOR MYSELF, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
YOUR PASSION SHINES THROUGH IN, IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT, UM, JUST REPEATING WHAT YOU ALL SAID, I I'VE LEARNED FROM EACH OF YOU.
UM, BUT PASSION FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT THAT IS ROLLING OFF IS VERY EVIDENT AND I, I THANK YOU, PROUD TO HAVE SERVED ALONGSIDE YOU.
I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK CUZ I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING LATE.
I, I DO WANNA JUST ECHO THE VICE CHAIR.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
IT'S TRULY BEEN A JOY SERVING WITH Y'ALL AND ACTUALLY ALL FOUR OF YOU, WE WORKED THROUGH THE LAST ROUND OF THE LDC REVISION
SO IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO BE HERE AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS AND WE'VE MOVED SO FAR AND YET WE HAVEN'T ACCOMPLISHED AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
AND SO HOPEFULLY YOU WILL ALL CONTINUE FIGHTING WITH US FOR THAT WORK AND MAKING SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE THE WORK AND GET IT DONE.
AND I DO WANNA JUST REALLY THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS AND YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING THE SAME THING OF, I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF LEARNING SO MUCH FROM ALL OF YOU.
AND SO MANY FOLKS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE.
ONE LAST THING I'LL JUST SAY IS I THANK, IF YOU'VE NOT SERVED ON THE COMMISSION, YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW SOMETIMES EMOTIONALLY HARD IT CAN BE.
IT'S LONG NIGHTS, THERE'S SO MANY CONVERSATIONS, THERE'S SO MUCH DIGGING IN, THERE'S REAL AGREEMENTS AND DISAGREEMENTS IN SOME WAY.
I HAVE TO SAY, I HAVE A BOND WITH ALL OF YOU AND THE PEOPLE WHO CAME BEFORE FOREVER BECAUSE THERE'S A SHARED EXPERIENCE THAT TO BE HONEST, WE'VE HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SHARE WITH EACH OTHER.
BUT REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE CHAIR, CHAIR SHOCK.
OH, I'M GONNA MISS ALL OF YOU GUYS, UM, AS YOU HAVE REALLY, YOUR IDEAS HAVE REALLY MADE ME FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
I REALLY LOVE THE CITY EVEN MORE, KNOWING THAT THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CARE SO MUCH ABOUT IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING AND DON'T LIKE IT ANYMORE.
AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE COME TO THIS MEETING WE REALLY SHOW, UH, BRING DIVERSE OPINIONS.
AND YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY I THINK I'M GONNA MISS, UM, EVERYONE HERE HAS AFFECTED ME IN THE WAY I'M THINKING.
YOU KNOW, I CAME OUT OF ALLENDALE
YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT HERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE HELPED INFORM THAT FOR ME.
SO I APPRECIATE, I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU AND I JUST, UM, GOSH, COMMISSIONER SHAY, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT.
I MEAN THE LAND CODE FROM THE DAY I WALKED ON AND JUST REALLY LEARNING SO MUCH FROM YOU AND YOU HAVE DONE SO MUCH HEAVY LIFTING WITH THE WORK GROUPS THROUGH THE CODE AMENDMENTS AND CARRIED ON THROUGH THE WORKING GROUPS.
AND YOU WERE CHAIR AND FILLED IN, IN A REAL CRUCIAL TIME WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF DIVIDE BETWEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE FIRST, UH, THE LAND CODE THE FIRST TIME, AND YOU REALLY BROUGHT A SENSE OF UNIFICATION TO THE, TO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT TIME.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STEPPING IN AT THAT TIME.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE AND UH, I'M REALLY SAD TO LEAVE.
[03:45:01]
ALL RIGHT, WELL, UM, WITH THAT I WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT 9 49.