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[CALL TO ORDER]
TO THE AUSTIN HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.UM, I WILL, I SEE, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE PRESENT, ALL PRESENT AND ACCOUNTANT FOR, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYONE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY TONIGHT THAT WE MAY HAVE TWO MEMBERS THAT ARE COMING A LITTLE BIT LATER.
THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE ROLE.
ANISA CASTILLO WILL BE, UH, COMING A LITTLE BIT LATER.
KEVIN COOK, PRESENT CARL LAROCHE HERE.
I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
BY OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS, I WILL, UM, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA THAT WE WILL, UM, TAKE CARE FIRST AND THAT'S THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, BUT THEN I WILL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, CALLING OUT THE ITEMS. THAT WILL BE, UM, DISCUSSION ITEMS. THOSE THAT WILL BE APPROVED ON CONSENT, UNLESS SOMEONE ON THE DIOCESE OR IN THE PUBLIC THAT'S Y'ALL, UH, PULLS IT FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, THEN WE WILL GO BACK AND START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE ORDER THAT THEY APPEAR ON THE AGENDA FOR ALL THE ITEMS THAT PASS ON CONSENT, THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED WITH WHATEVER STIPULATIONS, UH, OR CONSIDERATIONS STAFF HAS GIVEN IN THEIR, UH, IN THE AGENDA OR IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF PROPERTIES ARE, UM, APPROVED FOR DEMOLITION, IN MOST CASES, A CITY OF AUSTIN, DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE IS REQUIRED.
THAT CONSISTS OF EIGHT BY 10 COLOR PHOTOGRAPHIC PAPER, PHOTOGRAPHS OF EACH FACADE AND A NARRATIVE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY SUITABLE FOR ARCHIVING, AND IT WILL GO TO THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER WHERE IT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
OKAY.PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS GENERAL IS, IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, THAT COULD BE ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH PRESERVATION OR SOMETHING NOT HAVING TO DO WITH PRESERVATION AT ALL.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? OKAY, SIRAM.
I I HAVE A, I'M NOT ON THE AGENDA.
I'M ON NUMBER 14 WHERE YOU'RE ON THE AGENDA.
THEN IF YOU'RE ON THE AGENDA AT NUMBER 14, I'M NOT ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH, THAT'S, UM, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP ON THE AGENDA.
[Consent Agenda]
OKAY.THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES THAT WILL BE OFFERED, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
WE WILL THEN HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS.
THEN WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
FIRST UP, OUR HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATIONS.
ITEM 3 20 32 0 1 SOUTH LAMAR BOULEVARD, A DISCUSSION ON RECOMMENDING THE BROKEN SPOKE FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM UNDER HISTORIC LANDMARK AND LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT APPLICATIONS.
ITEM 4 1 15 EAST FIFTH STREET IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.
THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER 5 7 18 CONGRESS AVENUE.
THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM 6 17 10
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WINDSOR AVENUE THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.AND REMEMBER, IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THESE ITEMS, DOES NOT WANT IT TO PROVE ON CONSENT, YOU MAY PULL IT, RAISE YOUR HAND OR CALL OUT MY NAME.
UH, WIGGLE AROUND AND GET MY ATTENTION, AND WE'LL PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION NEXT ON THE AGENDA.
ITEM SEVEN, 2001 MAPLE AVENUE.
THAT ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
IT'S AN, UH, TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION PROVIDED THE APPLICANT RETAINS THE SCREEN DOORS AND OTHER IRON WORK ON SITE FOR LATER REPLACEMENT.
UH, CHAIR MYERS? YES, I I WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE THAT PORTION.
I'D STILL LIKE TO KEEP IT AS A CONSENT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE SCREENS, UH, WHICH ARE MOSTLY BURGLAR BARS, UH, EITHER ARE HISTORIC OR ARE NECESSARY FOR REPLACEMENT.
WE'LL PULL THAT FOR CONSENT, THEN.
I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT ON CONSENT.
IF WE COULD JUST DROP THAT ONE, ONE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION INCLUDED A REQUEST THAT THE SCREEN DOORS AND OTHER IRON WORKS BE RETAINED FOR REPLACEMENT IF HISTORIC AGE.
I THINK WE CAN DETERMINE THAT IT WAS NOT, AND I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE STRICKEN AND JUST STAY ON CONSENT.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
LET'S, WE'LL PULL IT AND WE CAN, AND IT'S CERTAINLY IN THE AGENDA.
I MEAN, I THINK IT, WE COULD APPROVE IT AS IS BECAUSE IT SAYS IF HISTORIC AGE.
IT'S DETERMINED THAT THEY'RE NOT OF HISTORIC AGE.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE RETAINED.
AND THEN, AND YOU AGREE WITH THAT AND TO LEAVE IT ON A CONSENT LANGUAGE.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT ITEM ON CONSENT AND I JUST, MY COMMENTS WILL BE NOTED TO STAFF.
THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER 8 43 0 8 DUVAL STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, APPROVAL, AND CLARIFICATION.
ARE WE APPROVING THE ADDITION AS WELL? THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION REFERENCED THE WORK ON THE EXISTING BUILDING, BUT THE DRAWINGS HAD AN ADDITION.
UM, STAFF, THIS IS 43 0 8 DUVAL.
IT'S A HISTORIC LANDMARK, I BELIEVE, UNLESS I PICKED UP THE WRONG BACKUP.
YEAH, THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY IT WAS ON THE DRAWING WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UNDER NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT PERMIT APPLICATIONS NUMBER 9 5 12, EASTMAN MONROE STREET IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT NUMBER 10 13 15 AND 1317 NOON AVENUE IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT NUMBER 1804 BRECKENRIDGE STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
WE HAVE, I SEE A SPEAKER, UH, HAS RAISED THEIR HAND.
WOULD YOU LIKE THAT PULLED FOR DISCUSSION? YES.
NUMBER 12, 4 0 9 EAST MONROE STREET.
THAT HAS CHANGED CONSIDERABLY SINCE IT LAST CAME TO THE, UH, COMMISSION, AND IT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE CASES WHERE THEY HAD ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR DEMOLITION AND NOW THEY'RE GONNA RETAIN THE HISTORIC BUILDING.
IS IT AN ADDITION REMODELED OFFER FOR CONSENT NUMBER 14 42 0 6 WILSHIRE PARKWAY DEMOLISH A CONTRIBUTING HOUSE AND BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
IS THAT ONE WE HAD SOMEBODY? I'M SORRY.
IS THAT THE ONE THAT WE HAD SOMEBODY WANTING TO SPEAK ON? NO.
DID SOMEBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM? OH, I SEE SOMEONE THERE.
OKAY, THEN WE'LL PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION.
WAIT, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OR I'M IN FAVOR.
SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT BEING APPROVED? YES.
IT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT APPROVAL.
THAT'S, UH, ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE OFFERED FOR CONSENT ARE CONSENT APPROVAL UNLESS SOMEONE PULLS IT FOR DISCUSSION.
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OKAY.NUMBER 15, 3005 GLENVIEW AVENUE.
THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT NUMBER 1702 ALAMEDA DRIVE.
I WANNA PULL THAT ONE FOR DISCUSSION.
NUMBER 17 25 21 HARRIS BOULEVARD.
NEW CONSTRUCTION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
IT'S CONSENT APPROVAL UNDER DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION PERMIT.
APPLICATIONS NUMBER 18 73 0 4 KNOX LANE WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER 19 7 0 7 MIRRORED IN LANE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT APPROVAL NUMBER 20.
IT SAYS 33 0 5 GLENVIEW AVENUE, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
THAT ITEM WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.
IT'S THE DEMOLITION OF TWO RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
I WANNA PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION NUMBER 22 38 0 5 BALCONES DRIVE IT.
THE PROPOSAL IS A DEMOLITION OF A RE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
STAFF RECOMMENDS, UH, STRONGLY ENCOURAGING REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, BUT RELEASING THE DEMOLITION PACKAGE UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE THAT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
AND THAT IS THE, UM, THE LAST OF OUR CASES.
WE WILL THEN HAVE COMMITTEE UPDATES, POSSIBLE ACTION STAFF ITEMS, AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, THEN ADJOURNMENT.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE FRONT OF OUR AGENDA.
AND DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO MOVED.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, PROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY AYE.
FOR ALL THOSE PRESENT, THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THOSE WERE APPROVED, YOU MAY LEAVE NOW AND STAFF WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT IS NEEDED, UM, FOR YOUR DOC DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE OR OTHER, UM, OR OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
NEXT, WE WILL HAVE BRIEFINGS, A BRIEFING BY, UM, WHAT DO WE, DO? WE WANT TO APPROVE THE POSTPONE.
DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON IT? I DIDN'T WANT US SPEAK ON IT.
UM, EXCUSE ME, BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
UH, WE DO, WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THE ENTIRE AGENDA.
SO DO YOU WANNA WAIT OR? SURE.
UM, SO SORRY, WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK.
THE SPEAKER WHO SIGNED UP FOR, UH, THE WILLSHIRE PROPERTY DOES INDEED WANNA SPEAK EVEN THOUGH HE'S IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL AND CONSENT APPROVAL.
BUT HE DOES WANNA SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
SO HE DID WANT TO PULLED FOR CONS, UH, DISCUSSION.
WHICH NUMBER DOES THAT? UH, 14.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER VOTE.
AND I BELIEVE THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE THAT VOTE.
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OKAY.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA, EXCEPT FOR NUMBER 14.
DID YOU ALL TAKE A VOTE ON CONSENT POSTPONEMENT YET? NOT YET.
WE'RE JUST NOW GOING TO, OKAY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MC WARD.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS.
[2. Heritage Preservation Grant Award Recommendations]
BACK AND GO THROUGH, UM, WE'LL FIRST HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN GO ON TO THE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION THE CASES.IS THERE SOMEONE HERE TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION? HI,
MELISSA VERRADO, HERITAGE TOURISM DIVISION MANAGER WITH THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
UM, YOU'LL BE MANAGING THE SLIDES.
UM, OUR DEPARTMENT REIMAGINED ITS CULTURAL FUNDING REVIEW PROCESS FOR ARTS, HERITAGE, AND MUSIC WITH AN INTENTIONAL FOCUS ON EQUITY WHILE MORE EFFECTIVELY PROMOTING TOURISM, UM, WITHIN AUSTIN.
THIS IS IN LINE WITH OUR, UM, GOALS AS A DEPARTMENT, UM, AND ALSO WITH THE CITY'S EQUITY OFFICE STANDARDS AND GOALS.
REVISIONS TO THE GUIDELINES DATE BACK TO 2017 WITH RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE VISITOR IMPACT TASK FORCE, FOLLOWED BY RECOMMENDATIONS IN 2018 BY THE HERITAGE GRANT WORKING GROUP.
ALL IN SUPPORT OF EXPANDING PROJECT ELIGIBILITY AND SUPPORTIVE PROJECTS IN UNDERREPRESENTED GEOGRAPHIC AREAS AND PROJECTS.
AS A PARTNER TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE AND THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, THE HERITAGE TOURISM DIVISION LOOKS FORWARD TO FURTHER EXPANDING PROGRAM GUIDELINES TO EXPAND ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE UPDATE TO THE EQUITY BASED HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN, PARTICULARLY AS IT PERTAINS TO HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS.
WE COMPLETED RESEARCH CENTERED ON BEST PRACTICE BY, UM, CON, HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH LEADING PRESERVATION GROUPS, UM, THROUGHOUT SAN ANTONIO, SEATTLE, UM, AND OTHER CITIES.
IN ADDITION, WE COMPLETED A NUMBER OF ASSESSMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO PROGRAM ENTRY BARRIERS, EQUITY TRAINING, PROCESS AUDITS, TOURISM MARKETING, UH, TRAINING, EXPANDED ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, AND, UM, THE CREATION OF EQUITY-BASED PANEL TRAINING.
STAFF CONDUCTED AWARENESS WORKSHOPS PROVIDED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND USED A COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM TO SUPPORT APPLICANTS DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
WE LAUNCHED THE GRANT IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, COMPLETED THE REVIEW PANEL IN JANUARY, AND THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PASSED BY COUNSEL IN FEBRUARY ON FEBRUARY 9TH.
WE HAD ANTICIPATED BRIEFING THE H L C PRIOR TO THAT ACTION, UH, BUT DUE TO THE FREEZE, UM, WE SHARED AN UPDATE VIA EMAIL AND I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE THAT BRIEFING.
AS A REMINDER, THE PURPOSE OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT IS TO PROMOTE TOURISM THROUGH HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNING, EDUCATIONAL, OR MARKETING PROJECTS THAT ARE ROOTED IN HISTORY AND HERITAGE.
THE STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE FUNDING BE USED TO PROMOTE TOURISM AND CONVENTION AND HOTEL INDUSTRIES, AND ALL PROJECTS MUST OCCUR AT A HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED SITE.
UM, HERE IN PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT APPLICANTS MAY NOW INCLUDE AN OPTIONAL $1,000 FISCAL SPONSORS FEE, INSURANCE FEES, AND A 10% PROJECT MANAGEMENT FEE NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THIS, IN ESSENCE, HELPS TO COVER THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
AS A DIVISION, WE PRIORITIZED OUTREACH FOR FIRST TIME APPLICANTS.
ALL AWARDEES WILL BE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN TOURISM MARKETING TRAINING AS WELL.
ALL PROJECTS WERE REQUIRED TO BE HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED.
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PREVIOUSLY, PROMOTE TOURISM AND AC OCCUR IN A COUNCIL 10, ONE DISTRICT.THE REIMBURSEMENT GRANTS RANGE FROM 10,000 TO 250,000 DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT TYPE.
AND, AND THE, UH, AND AWARDS ARE UNDER, ARE UNDER THE CATEGORIES OF CAPITAL PLANNING, EDUCATIONAL, OR MARKETING NEW THIS YEAR, CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO MEET WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE PRIOR TO COMING TO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION FOR DESIGN FEEDBACK AND AN, AND TO HAVE AN INFORMAL DISCUSSION ON THE PROPOSED CAPITAL PROJECT.
NEXT, WITH THE LAUNCH OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS NEXT GO ROUND, THIS WILL BE A REQUIREMENT.
THIS HELPS TO CONFIRM THAT PROPOSED WORK IS COMPATIBLE WITH BOTH LOCAL AND NATIONAL STANDARDS AND DESIGN GUIDELINES IN ADVANCE OF THE HLC REVIEW.
THE STEP OBVIOUSLY REQUIRES NO FEES OR FORMAL APPLICATIONS, AND HELPS BUILD CAPACITY AND EQUITY, UM, FOR ALL PROJECT TEAMS IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO TECHNICAL RESOURCES.
THE PRESERVATION GRANT SCORING CRITERIA INCLUDED FOUR PRIMARY ELEMENTS RELATED TO PRESERVATION, TOURISM ACCESS, AND PROJECT BUDGETS AND BIDS.
THESE ARE SOME INITIAL STATISTICS RELATED TO OUR APPLICANT POOL.
WE RECEIVED 20 APPLICATIONS WITH 4.4 MILLION REQUESTED IN FUNDING.
AND THESE ARE SOME STATISTICS RELATED TO OUR AWARDEES 17.
UH, WE AWARDED, UH, FUNDING TO 17 PRESERVATION PROJECTS, UH, THAT REPRESENTED NINE FIRST TIME APPLICANTS EIGHT, UH, PROJECTS REPRESENTED MAJORITY WOMEN-LED BUSINESSES OR ORGANIZATIONS.
53% OF THE PROJECTS REPRESENT BIPO LED APPLICANTS OR SIGNIFICANT HERITAGE SITES ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, HISTORICALLY WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR.
AWARDEES ALSO LEVERAGED $674,000 IN OTHER FUNDING FOR THEIR PROJECT PROPOSALS.
UM, THE NEXT THREE SLIDES IS A LIST OF ALL OF THE PRESERVATION PROJECTS, WHO THEY WERE PROPOSED BY, AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT THEY WILL OCCUR IN, IN ADDITION TO THE AMOUNTS.
ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE BACKUP FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING, AND YOU CAN KIND OF PROGRESS THROUGH THOSE SLIDES.
THE NEXT HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT CYCLE WILL OPEN AUGUST 8TH, 2023, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
UM, WHAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING APPLICANTS IS TO, UH, VISIT OUR WEBSITE, AUSTIN TEXAS.GOV/D D SIGN UP FOR OUR NEWSLETTER SO THAT YOU WILL BECOME AWARE OF THESE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, NOT JUST THROUGH MY PROGRAM, BUT THROUGH ALL PROGRAMS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE DO HAVE AN ONLINE PORTAL APPLICATION PROCESS, AND WE WILL, UM, CONTINUE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR ASSIST INDIVIDUALS THROUGH THAT APPLICATION PROCESS.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT BECAUSE WE ARE REQUIRING ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS TO GO BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, PRIOR TO SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION, THEY'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION AND BRINGING PROJECT PROPOSALS TO THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE ESSENTIAL OVER, UM, THE SUMMER MONTHS.
AND SO WE WILL BE PROMOTING THAT AS SOMETHING TO DO IN ADVANCE OF SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION.
AND WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS OF MS. ALVAREZ? JUST A QUICK ONE.
MY, MY COMPLIMENTS TO, UH, THE RATHER THOROUGH WAY YOU'VE REEXAMINED SOME OF THE ISSUES PERTAINING TO THE SELECTION PROCESS.
AND I THINK BY HAVING IT AS MUCH UPFRONT AS POSSIBLE, I THINK IT ALSO MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR THE NEXT GROUP THAT WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AS WELL.
AND OBVIOUSLY, THE, THE MORE PEOPLE, THE BETTER.
UH, ONE THING I REALIZED OVER THE YEARS, HAVE WE ALSO A REQUIREMENT OF, AND DO WE HAVE ARCHIVAL INFORMATION THAT DOCUMENTS THE SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS WHEN THEY'RE COMPLETED? IS THERE SOME SORT OF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, EACH CLASS GETS SOME SORT OF, UH, RECOGNITION OR SOME, UH, WAY OF, OF ARCHIVING THE, THE GOOD WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE WITH THESE FUNDS? WELL, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT OUR DEPARTMENT DOES.
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PROGRAM, WE DO HAVE A FINAL REPORT.AND AS PART OF THAT REPORT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, UM, LEAN INTO IS, DID WE PROVIDE YOU WITH THE SUPPORT THAT YOU NEEDED SO THAT YOU CAN SUCCESSFULLY SAY THAT YOU COMPLETED THE PROJECT AS YOU HAD ENVISIONED.
UM, SO THAT IS ONE BIT OF FEEDBACK THAT WE TAKE BACK.
UM, AND WITH THIS NEXT GO ROUND, WHAT I AM, UM, ASSEMBLING IN TERMS OF OUR NEXT ROLLOUT IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MANY MORE SITE VISITS THAT WILL BE OCCURRING FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS SO THAT WE CAN, UM, BETTER ESTABLISH THE, A RELATIONSHIP OVER THE, THE TERM OF THE, OF THE GRANT.
AND I THINK THAT WILL LEAD TO A MORE SUCCESSFUL INTERACTION WITH OUR PROGRAM AND WITH MY DIVISION SPECIFICALLY.
UM, AND THEN IN OUR LEGAL CONTRACTUAL, UH, ARRANGEMENT, UM, WE DO HAVE OBLIGATIONS THAT MUST BE MET IN TERMS OF, UH, RECORDS AND, AND TIMEKEEPING AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING IN, AS IT PERTAINS TO THE FINANCIALS OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
IF THAT IS ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION CLOSE.
I, I'M, I THINK I'M SEEING AN OPPORTUNITY.
UH, I CAN SEE A WAY OF CELEBRATING BOTH THESE PROJECTS, BUT ALSO RAISING THE AWARENESS OF THIS PROGRAM, UH, SINCE IT IS A PUBLIC INVESTMENT, UH, AND DOING SOMETHING WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SEND OUT A PHOTOGRAPHER TO TAKE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS.
THESE GRANT FUNDS OFTEN SUPPLEMENT A LOT OF PRIVATE DOLLARS AND OTHER PUBLIC FUNDS.
BUT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO REALLY SHOW THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVATION AND HOW IT'S CONTRIBUTED, I THINK I, I JUST SEE IT'S SORT OF OCCURRING TO ME AT THIS MOMENT THAT, UH, FOR ALL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE SAT AND WATCHED THESE PRESENTATIONS AND HEARD ABOUT THESE, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE EVER HAD ONE WHERE WE JUST CAME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, HAD, HAD A WONDERFUL GALLERY OF THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETED PROJECTS.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO AS, AS, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A CONTRACTUAL REQUIREMENT, BUT WE DO, UM, REQUIRE ALL AWARDEES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FUNDING AND THE FUNDING MECHANISM, UM, RECEIVED FOR THEIR PROJECT.
WE SEE THAT AS, YOU KNOW, TWOFOLD.
NUMBER ONE, IT HELPS US DO, IT HELPS US WITH OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT SO THAT OTHERS WITHIN THEIR NETWORKS AND CIRCLES ARE MADE AWARE THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, PRESERVATION AND FOR RESTORING SITES.
UM, SO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WE UTILIZE THEM FOR.
AND, AND TWO, THEY ARE AN EXTENSION OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS STAFF, AND IN PARTICULAR MY DIVISION, WHICH IS A VERY SMALL DIVISION.
UM, AND SO THEY SUPPORT US IN THAT EFFORT OF, YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT MORE INDIVIDUALS ARE, ARE, ARE MADE AWARE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU MS. ALREZ.
AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US POSTED ON YOUR ACTIVITIES.
UM, THE GRANTS PROGRAM IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND, UM, WE LIKE TO, WE LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH Y'ALL.
[3. ZC-2022-183567 – 3201 S. Lamar Blvd. - Discussion]
OKAY, WE'RE GOING ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.THE FIRST ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM 3 32 0 1 SOUTH LAMAR BOULEVARD.
IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW, THAT'S THE BROKEN SPOKE COMMISSIONER MYERS.
I'M OFF THE DIAS FOR THIS ONE.
UM, AND, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN, UM, TO MELISSA ALVARADO AND OUR WONDERFUL PARTNERS AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, HERITAGE GRANTS PROGRAM, UM, OUR HERITAGE TOURISM PROGRAM.
UM, ALWAYS EXCITED TO SEE THE HERITAGE GRANTS.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS CASE NUMBER C 14 H 20 22 1 76.
UH, THIS IS A CITY COUNCIL INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING CASE FOR THE BROKEN SPOKE AT 32 0 1 SOUTH LAMAR.
RESOLUTION 20 22 1 100 3081, ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER OF 2022.
DIRECTS THE CITY MANAGER TO REVIEW AND DOCUMENT DESIGNATION, SUITABILITY, AND TO ADVANCE THE PROPERTY FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION THROUGH THE LANDMARK COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY TO PRESERVE THIS IMPORTANT INSTITUTION AND TO ALIGN WITH THE APRIL, 2023 PLACEMENT OF A TEXAS STATE HISTORICAL MARKER AT THE PROPERTY.
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OKAY.THE RESOLUTION OUTLINES THE BROKEN SPOKE SIGNIFICANCE AS FOLLOWS.
UH, AND I WILL PARAPHRASE, UM, SINCE ITS FOUNDING IN 1964 BY JAMES WHITE, WHOSE FAMILY STILL OWNS AND OPERATES THE VENUE, THE BROKEN SPOKE HAS ENTERTAINED LEGIONS OF AUSTINITES AND VISITORS FROM AROUND THE GLOBE.
IT HELPED SHAPE THE CAREERS OF MANY COUNTRY MUSIC SUPERSTARS AND DEFINE THE CHARACTER OF LIVE, OF THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
AS THE AREA AROUND THE BROKEN SPOKE IS PROSPERED AND SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT HAS OCCURRED, IT IS IMPERATIVE TO SECURE THIS VENUE FROM A FATE SUFFERED BY MANY IN THE CITY.
THE BROKEN SPOKE IS MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD, AND IT RETAINED ITS INTEGRITY AS A CLASSIC TEXAS MUSIC AND DANCE HALL.
IT HAS SIGNIFICANT AND LONG-STANDING ASSOCIATIONS WITH PERSONS, GROUPS, AND EVENTS OF CITY AND STATEWIDE IMPORTANCE AND PROVIDES DISTINCT COMMUNITY VALUE AS A CORNERSTONE OF AUSTIN'S LIVE MUSIC SCENE.
IN 2015, NOMINATION AUTHOR KATHERINE CLARK EXPANDED UPON THE BUILDING'S SIGNIFICANCE UNDER THE NATIONAL REGISTER CRITERIA FOR ARCHITECTURE AND ASSOCIATIONS.
QUOTE, THE BROKEN SPOKE IS A RAMBLING DANCE HALL BUILT IN 1964 BY JAMES WHITE AND HIS FATHER-IN-LAW, JOE BAYLAND AS A RESTAURANT SERVING CHICKEN FRIED STEAK WITH A JUKEBOX AND A BAR.
THEY EXPANDED WITHIN ITS FIRST YEAR OF OPERATION.
IT QUICKLY BECAME A STAPLE OF THE COUNTRY MUSIC SCENE AS THE ONLY LOCAL HONKY TONK TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN CLASSIC COUNTRY ACTS LIKE THE TEXAS PLAYBOYS ROY, AK ERNEST TUB, EVEN A LATE SIXTIES CLEAN SHAVEN WILLIE NELSON AT THE START OF HIS CAREER AND NEWER PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY ACTS, INCLUDING FRIDA AND THE FIRE DOGS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL DOLLY PARTNER JERRY, JEFF WALKER AND GEORGE STRAIT WITH ACE IN THE HOLE.
THE BUILDING ITSELF IS A TYPICAL MODEST TEXAS HONKY TONK WITH THE PORCH FACADE AND DANCE FLOORS.
ITS MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS CONSIDERING THE BUILDING WAS PLANNED AND BUILT BY WHITE AND VALENT, WHO IS A CARPENTER.
THE ROUGH, INEXPENSIVE WORKMANSHIP AND MATERIALS ARE APPROPRIATE AND IMPLY ITS AUTHENTIC COWBOY CULTURE.
THE RAMBLING PLAN REPRESENTS BOTH TYPICAL HONKY TONK DESIGNS AND THE ESTABLISHMENT'S INCREASING IMPORTANCE THROUGH ITS CONTINUED USE.
THE BUILDING RETAINS HIGH INTEGRITY, AS NOTED IN DONNA MARIE MILLER'S 27 BOOK.
THE BROKEN SPOKE REMAINED AUTHENTIC AFTER MORE THAN 50 YEARS.
SHE NOTES ONE OF THE ONLY RENOVATIONS OCCURRED IN 2005 WHEN A TOUR BUS DROVE THROUGH THE BACK WALL,
THE BROKEN SPOKE RECEIVED A TEXAS STATE HISTORICAL MARKER IN 2021 THAT EXTOLS ITS CULTURAL IMPORTANCE TO TEXAS MUSIC SLATED FOR INSTALLATION IN 2023.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COUNCIL PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FROM CS TO CS H UNDER THE DESIGNATION CRITERIA FOR COMMUNITY VALUE ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
NOW DO I HAVE THIS CORRECTLY? CITY COUNCIL INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING AND IT'S COMING TO US FOR A RECOMMENDATION? THAT'S CORRECT, YOUR HONOR.
THIS NEVER HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE
SO ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? YES, COMMISSIONER TETTE.
AND MAYBE IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE FROM THE BROKEN SPOKE.
DO Y'ALL OWN THE PROPERTY THAT THIS BUILDING SITS ON? DO YOU KNOW IF, IF, IF WHO'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE BUILDING SITS ON? SO THE, SO DES WYATT OWNS THE PROPERTY.
I JUST QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE BUILT ALL THE WAY AROUND IT.
WOULD YOU LIKE HER TO ANSWER A QUESTION AT THE PODIUM? YES, GO AHEAD.
MS. WHITE, THANK YOU FOR COMING VISIT WITH US.
UH, I JUST WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WHO OWNS THE UNDER UNDERLYING PROPERTY, AND THEY, THEY JUST SAID THAT Y'ALL OWN IT.
UM, YOU'RE ASKING WHO OWNS THE LAND BENEATH THE BROKEN, THE LAND BENEATH BROKEN BOOK, THAT THAT IS OWNED BY CW PARTNERS, LLC OUT OF CALIFORNIA.
THEY HAVE AN OFFICE HERE IN TOWN.
BUT THAT'S, SO YOU'RE, WHAT'S THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT THIS BEING? I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE AGAINST THIS, THAT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO, THEY THEY WOULD BE PRESENT, I WOULD IMAGINE IF THEY WERE, BUT THEY, NOT THEM.
THEY'RE A LITTLE HARD TO GET AHOLD OF.
UM, THE, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN LEASED, UM, BY THE, THE LANDOWNER SINCE JAY JOHNSON, THE VERY FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OWNED THE LAND IN 1964, RIGHT.
WHEN MR. WHITE BUILT THE BUILDING HIMSELF WITHOUT THE HELP OF JOE BAILEN, HIS FATHER-IN-LAW, BUT
AND MR. WHITE TELLS THE STORY AS TRUTH.
WE, UM, WE SEE THAT THE BUILDING
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HAS STOOD ON THAT LAND THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS.FIRST JAY JOHNSON, AND THEN HE DIED IN 2010, AND THEN RIVERSIDE RESOURCES OWNED THE LAND AND TWO YEARS LATER SOLD TO TRANSWESTERN DEVELOPERS.
AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT BUILT THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING KNOWN AS THE 7 0 4.
AND THEN IT WAS SOLD IN 2014 TO CW PARTNERS, LLC.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL, SEVERAL BUSINESS OWNERS WITHIN THAT LLC.
NO, I JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT, WELL, EITHER THEY'LL SHOW UP OR NOT, BUT IT, IT, IT, IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
YES, IT HAS BEEN PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER, UM, WE NEED TO KNOW THIS, BUT WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAMES FOR THE RECORD SO THAT, UH, SO THAT WE KNOW WHO'S BEEN ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS? DONNA, MS. WHITE, FIRST THIS, THIS IS ANNETTE ANN WHITE.
I'M JAMES WHITES WIDOW, AND I WAS THERE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND I'M, I'M DONNA MARIE MILLER.
I WROTE THE BOOK, THE BROKEN SPOKE AUSTIN'S LEGENDARY HONKY TONK IN 2017.
AND WE'LL CALL ON YOU AGAIN, UM, IN JUST A MINUTE.
OR MAYBE IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU TO, UM, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS RECOMMENDATION.
UM, MS. MS. WHITE, COULD YOU PLEASE GO FIRST AND, UH, SAY, UM, WHAT IT IS THAT, UH, THE REASON THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION? I WANNA KNOW WHY YOU SUPPORT THE HISTORIC ZONING.
WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE A FEATHER IN JAMES' CAP.
AND, UM, HE, THAT'S JUST WHAT HE WANTED TO DO ALL, AND HE'S SPENT HIS WHOLE LIFE DOING IT, AND I WANT TO CONTINUE IT AS LONG AS I, I'M ONLY 80, SO I FIGURE I CAN WORK ANOTHER 10 YEARS
JENNY, UM, DOES ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA.
SHE'S THE ONE THAT HAD TOXIC SHOCK ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND LOST HER FEET AND MOST OF HER HANDS.
AND, UM, THEN MY OLDEST DAUGHTER HAD TO GO TO WORK.
SHE'S OUR DANCE TEACHER AND HELPS ME DO WHATEVER I NEED.
AND I HAVE VERY LOYAL EMPLOYEES.
AND IF WILLIE WAS HERE, HE'D TELL YOU THAT HE'D, HE'S JUST LIKE THE FATHER OF US, YOU KNOW, HE'S JUST A VERY FINE PERSON.
SO YOU THINK HE WOULD SUPPORT IT? OH, YES.
UH, THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND HE WOULD GRAB JAMES EVERY TIME HE SAW HIM AND SAY, YOU KNOW, JAMES, THEY'RE WORKING ME HARDER AT 80 THAN THEY DID AT 60
AND THEN GEORGE STRAIT CAME AND SPENT THE DAY WITH US ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND PUT US ON THE FRONT OF HIS LAST ALBUM.
AND I, HE, THEY, HIS ASSOCIATION WROTE, UM, THEY CALLED JAMES AND ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE ALBUM COVER.
AND JAMES SAID, WELL, THAT'S SORT OF A NO-BRAINER.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO BE ON THAT? SO THAT'S WHERE WE COME FROM.
AND NOW YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I, AGAIN, I'M DONNA MARIE MILLER AND I CONSIDER THE WHITES MY FAMILY AFTER SPENDING SO MUCH TIME WITH THEM.
AND ON BEHI HALF OF THE WHITE FAMILY, I WANNA THANK THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEPARTMENT AND THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT THAT THEY GAVE THEM FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS ON THAT 58 YEAR OLD ROOF.
WE, UM, WE, WE REALLY DO SEE THAT THE BROKEN SPOKE DRAWS TOURISM TO AUSTIN.
THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT COME EVERY WEEKEND.
THEY TAKE ROLL CALL FROM THE STAGE, AND THESE PEOPLE SAY OUTLAND LIKE ROMANIA AND GERMANY AND ITALY AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.
UH, TERRY'S TAUGHT CLASSES TO PEOPLE FROM SOUTH KOREA.
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EVERYONE'S BUCKET LIST BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED THEIR CAREERS THERE.WILLIE NELSON, JERRY, JEFF WALKER, RAY BENSON, ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL, GEORGE STRAIT AND OTHERS THAT PERFORMED THERE OVER THE YEARS.
DOLLY PARTON, KITTY WELLS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
WE EVEN HAD RAY PRICE PERFORM THERE, AND WE, WE SEE IT AS A PLACE THAT IS SO AUTHENTIC, THE THINGS THAT GINNY ALWAYS SAYS.
WE DIDN'T GO OUT AND BUY A BUNCH OF COUNTRY WESTERN STUFF AND PUT IT ON THE WALLS.
THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1964.
THERE'S A SADDLE THAT MR. WHITE'S FATHER RODE IN THE ROSE BALL PARADE.
UM, THERE'S A BUNCH OF, UM, DECORATED WESTERN OUTFITS THAT WERE CREATED BY NOTI KUEN IN THE HOLLYWOOD HILLS WHEN THAT GENE AUTRY ERA WAS AROUND.
UM, THERE ARE GUITARS SIGNED BY GARTH BROOKS WHEN HE PERFORMED THERE IN 2017 DURING SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.
AND GARTH BROOKS TOLD THE MEDIA, I, I HAD IT ON VIDEO ON K VIEW THAT I, MY VIDEO RAN WHEN HE SAID, IF THERE WERE PLACES LIKE THIS IN OKLAHOMA WHEN I STARTED OUT, I NEVER WOULD'VE LEFT
IT IS A PLACE THAT IS A TOUCHSTONE TO AUSTIN, AND IT WOULD BE SUCH A WONDERFUL THING TO HAVE HISTORIC ZONING.
IT WOULD PRESERVE IT FOR GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES TO COME.
RIGHT NOW ON THE WEEKENDS, WE OFTEN HAVE TWO OR THREE FAMILIES WHO SAY, MY MOTHER AND FATHER MET HERE, MY GRANDPARENTS MET HERE, I MET MY FIANCE HERE.
SO THERE ARE OLDER PEOPLE TEACHING YOUNGER PEOPLE TO DANCE AND CARRYING ON THE DANCE HALL TRADITION.
THERE AREN'T BALLROOM FIGHTS, THERE AREN'T PEOPLE GETTING INTO TROUBLE OF ANY KIND.
THEY'RE THERE TO DANCE AND LISTEN TO GOOD LIVE COUNTRY MUSIC, EAT MRS. WHITE'S CHICKEN FRIED STEAK, AND HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF, OF THESE YOUNG WOMEN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE DESIGNATION? THANK YOU.
UM, I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
UH, I'M AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WENT TO SCHOOL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS IN 1975.
I MOVED HERE AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF AUSTIN SINCE 1975.
AND I ALSO WENT TO THE BUEN SPOKE THAT FIRST YEAR I WAS HERE IN 1975.
AND I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN PARTICULAR TO TRY TO SAVE AS MANY HISTORIC LIVE MUSIC VENUES AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN.
CUZ IN MY OPINION, AUSTIN CAN'T BE THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD IF IT DOESN'T KEEP ITS LIVE MUSIC, HISTORIC VENUES.
AND, UH, AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MARKETING OF THE, OF THE CITY.
UM, AND I WOULD ALSO MAKE A, UH, SUGGESTION THAT AFTER PERHAPS THE STATE CAPITAL BUILDING AND PERHAPS THE TOWER OF UT, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE BROKEN SPOKE IS, IS PRETTY DARN CLOSE TO BEING THE NEXT MOST ICONIC, RECOGNIZABLE, UH, HISTORIC BUILDING IN AUSTIN.
UH, IT'S SEEN AUSTIN IN ADVERTISEMENTS AND, AND MEDIA AND MOVIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND LIKE, LIKE, UH, DONNA MURRAY SAID IN THE, ON THE COVER OF GEORGE STRAIT'S RECORD ALBUM JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY HUGE.
AND, UH, PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO AUSTIN BECAUSE OF THAT RECORD ALBUM AND SEEING THOSE PICTURES.
UM, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A DE DESTINATION SPOT, NOT ONLY FOR TEXANS, BUT ALSO FOR PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD.
AS DONNA MURRAY MENTIONED, IT'S A LIVING, BREATHING, FUNCTIONING HUNKY TONK AND DANCE HALL.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S REALLY A MUSEUM TOO.
IT HAS A, UH, AS I MENTIONED TO ALL THE DIFFERENT ARTIFACTS THEY HAVE IN THERE.
UH, JAMES USED TO CALL IT HIS TOURIST TRAP ROOM, BUT, UH, IT, IT REALLY IS A HISTORIC MUSEUM.
IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO GO THERE AND LOOK AT IT, IT'S SOME AMAZING, AMAZING THINGS THERE.
SO I GUESS I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, REALLY, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION BECAUSE, UH, THE THING THAT I HEAR MORE OF ANYTHING FROM OLDER PEOPLE LIKE ME IS DOC GARNELL.
I WISH AUSTIN WAS STILL LIKE IT USED TO BE.
AND, UH, I FEEL THAT SAME WAY TOO.
AND, AND YOU GUYS ARE PLAYING A HUGE ROLE IN TRYING TO KEEP AS MUCH OF OLD AUSTIN ALIVE AMONGST ALL THIS, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
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WE THANK YOU FOR, FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO TRY TO KEEP AS MUCH OF OLD AUSTIN ALIVE, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS AND, AND CONSIDERATION AND, AND, UH, APPRECIATE Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME.WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED? SAYING NONE.
UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, SECOND.
UH, I'M GONNA TAKE THAT SECOND FROM CAROLINE WRIGHT.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE CASE? REMEMBER, WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UH, THE MOTION SHOULD BE COUCHED IN TERMS THAT RECOMMEND, UM, SINCE THE CITY COUNCIL INITIATED.
YES, KEVIN, I'LL, I'LL TAKE THE HONOR IF NO ONE ELSE
UH, SECOND, UM, A AGAIN, CAROLINE, RIGHT, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? I'M SO GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL, AND I'M SO GLAD TO SEE SOMEBODY IN COWBOY HATS, COWGIRL HATS.
UM, WE DO HEAR, MAYBE DEVELOPMENT DOES HAVE TO HAPPEN, BUT AT THIS COMMISSION, EVERY MONTH WE APPROVE SCORES OF DEMOLITION PERMITS FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
AND IT'S A SHAME, AND SOME OF THEM ARE PRETTY FAMOUS.
NOT AS FAMOUS AS THE BROKEN SPOKE, BUT, UM, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT, THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
UH, THIS IS NOT JUST FOR, FOR Y'ALL OR FOR MR. WHITE, THOUGH.
IT'S FOR THE WHOLE CITY AND STATE OF TEXAS AFTER THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER HEIM SET.
I, I, I PROBABLY AM ONE OF THE VERY FEW PEOPLE HERE.
UH, JUST BY VIRTUE OF HAVING AS MANY YEARS AS I'VE HAD AND GROWING UP IN RURAL TEXAS, REMEMBERING THAT THE BROKEN SPOKE, AS IMPORTANT AS IT IS IN THAT AREA AND TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN, IS ACTUALLY IN MY MIND MUCH MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS WHAT IN PREVIOUS GENERATIONS WE NOW TAKE FOR GRANTED.
BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
AND I CAN REMEMBER GOING OUT WHERE FAMILIES WOULD BE, UH, IN THE TOWN DANCE HALL WITH A LOCAL BAND, AND THE TEENAGERS WOULD ALL TRY TO SNEAK OUTSIDE AND THE PARENTS WOULD ALL TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T
AND THOSE OF US WHO WERE YOUNG AND COULD SEE THAT THERE WERE A FEW BEERS LEFT ON THE TABLE WHEN ALL THAT WAS HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW YOU LEARNED IN THOSE EARLY DAYS ABOUT ALL THE GENERATIONS.
YOU CERTAINLY LEARNED HOW TO TWO-STEP.
AND YOU CERTAINLY LEARNED ABOUT GOOD MUSIC AND COMMUNITY.
UH, AND UNFORTUNATELY, VERY FEW OF THOSE COMMUNITIES STILL MAINTAIN THOSE DANCE HALLS.
THOSE THAT HAVE, MANY OF THEM HAVE LOST SOME OF THEIR CHARACTER.
UH, THERE MAY BE MUSEUM PIECES.
THE SPOKE CONTINUES THAT LEGACY, UH, WHEN I'M EVER I'M THERE.
UH, IT JUST, IT DEF DEFINITELY BRINGS BACK MEMORIES AND I UNDERSTAND ITS IMPORTANCE ON MANY, MANY LEVELS.
SO I HOPE IT LASTS FOR MANY, MANY MORE YEARS, AND I HOPE IT CONTINUES TO INSPIRE, UH, MANY MORE COMMUNITIES TO GO BACK AND REEXAMINE SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
SO PERHAPS EVEN RECREATE SOME OF THOSE WONDERFUL TRADITIONS.
I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT I STILL AM A LITTLE UNEASY THAT THIS IS, THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF, WHAT ARE, WHEN WE, WE RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, WE TALK JUST ABOUT THE BUILDING.
ARE WE TALKING THE PARKING LOT? AND I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY OWNED BY SOMEBODY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT TALKING, I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN PROPERTY PROPERLY NOTIFIED, I IMAGINE THEY HAVE.
UM, WE HAVE REACHED OUT VIA EMAIL AS WELL AS SNAIL MAIL, UM, A COUPLE TIMES.
UM, AND THEY ALSO WILL RECEIVE THE, UH, THE STOCK NOTIFICATION SENT BY THE CITY, UM, FOR BOTH THE NOTICE OF FILING OF THE APPLICATION, WHICH OCCURRED BACK IN, UH, NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.
UM, THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS MOVING FORWARD.
UM, COMMISSIONER HEK TO, UM, TO YOUR POINT, UM, TELL ME THAT'S ALL.
UM, WE, SO, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE ENTIRE PARCEL, HOWEVER, UM, THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL HAVE THE OPTION TO ZONE JUST THE FOOTPRINT, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT,
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UM, Y'ALL'S DECISION MAKERS CAN, UH, UH, INFLUENCE, UM, THROUGH YOUR VOTE.UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE, UH, TAX EXEMPTION ESTIMATE HERE IS FOR THE ENTIRE PARCEL.
UM, A FOOTPRINT WILL, UH, NEED TO BE CALCULATED BY TCAD.
UM, BUT JUST KIND OF BACK UP THE NAPKIN MATH, UM, IT'S ABOUT 25% OF THE LAND AREA.
SO, UM, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
I'M, I'M OKAY WITH IT BEING THE ENTIRE PARCEL.
I'M JUST, IT'S JUST, I DON'T REMEMBER.
I'VE BEEN UP HERE EIGHT YEARS.
I DON'T EVER REMEMBER US DOING RECOMMENDING HISTORIC ZONING ON A PROPERTY OR JUST ON A, YOU KNOW, JUST ON A, THIS IS BROUGHT TO US, OBVIOUSLY BY THE COUNCIL, BUT THESE ARE LESS LESSEES, UH, OF THE PROPERTY.
AND I, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS OUT.
YOU KNOW, YES, THEY CAN, THEY CAN SURE COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY, NO, WE MAY WELL RECEIVE A VALID PETITION BEFORE WE GET TO COUNCIL.
UM, THAT WOULD BE SAYING NO BY THE OWNER.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER HAD A VALID TIC WHERE THE OWNER WAS THE, WHO WAS INITIATING THE VALID PETITION.
BUT, UH, I THINK I WILL MENTION THAT A, UM, A SUPER MAJORITY WOULD BE REQUIRED, UH, FOR ANY VOTES OVER, UM, THE OWNER'S WISHES.
WELL, THAT'S NOT, THEY HAVEN'T, THEY HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING ABOUT, SO WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T NEED A SUPER MAJORITY PETITION, BUT IT WOULD BE WHO US, IF WE ARE IN FAVOR TO, UH, REGISTER, UH, UH, SUPER MAJORITY HAVE A, A SUPER MAJORITY IN FAVOR.
UM, AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER WEATHERSTON OFF THE DIAS, UH, AND COMMISSIONER CASTILLO.
SO THAT WOULD BE, BUT WE HAVE NINE HERE.
IF WE, IF I'M, I'M FOR, I'M NOT, I'M NOT.
I JUST, I THINK IT JUST, JUST FEELS A LITTLE FUNNY IN A, IN A WAY.
I THINK IN A WAY, I THINK WE'VE COVERED OURSELVES.
WE'RE FOLLOWING, UH, COUNCIL'S, UM, INITIATION AND ULTIMATELY A GOES TO COUNCIL.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE DONE DUE DILIGENCE IN NOTIFYING SRO.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD WITH A, A CLEAR HEART HEARTS AND MINDS TO, UH, TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.
THAT'S ALL GOOD, BUT YOUR COMMENTS WILL BE ON THE RECORD.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE BROKEN SPOKE.
[5. HR-2022-178783 – 718 Congress Ave. – Discussion ]
ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 5 7 18 CONGRESS AVENUE.SWITCHING GEARS, ITEM 5 7 18 CONGRESS AVENUE IS A PROPOSAL TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS AND DOORS AND RECONSTRUCT A SI, A SKYLIGHT, A TOP, A, UH, AN 1875 LANDMARKED BUILDING.
UM, THIS PROJECT SPECIFIES REPLACEMENT OF WINDOWS AND DOORS, UM, AT EAST AND WEST, UM, ELEVATIONS, UH, REBUILDING THE EXISTING SKYLIGHT, WHICH IS A STEEL STRUCTURE, AND REPLACING THE EXISTING TPO ROOF IN KIND.
UH, THE 1983 APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION DESCRIBES THE BUILDING'S ARCHITECTURE AS FOLLOWS.
UH, THIS IS AN EARLY VICTORIAN ARCH, EARLY VICTORIAN IN ARCHITECTURE WITH THREE STONE ARCHES.
IN THE SECOND STORY FRONT, THE ARCHES ARE SURROUNDED BY CARVED ROTS AND AN EARLY PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE BUILDING.
THE CAST IRON CORNES CAN BE SEEN WITH A GLOBE TOP EACH CENTER ARCH.
THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS ARE BASED ON THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION, AND ARE USED TO EVALUATE PROJECTS AT HISTORIC LANDMARKS.
UH, THE PROJECT MEETS SOME OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS AS OUTLINED IN YOUR BACKUP.
AND HOWEVER, HISTORIC PHOTOS AND OR IMAGES SHOWING DETERIORATION EXTENT AT THE WINDOWS, UM, SETBACK CALCULATIONS FOR THE SKYLIGHT AND PROSPECTIVE DRAWINGS WOULD HELP TO DETERMINE THE EXTENT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE STANDARDS.
IF THE EXISTING WINDOWS ARE NOT HISTORIC GAUGE, THE PROPOSED ADMINISTRATION REPLACEMENTS ADEQUATELY MEET THE STANDARDS.
IF THE PROPOSED SKYLIGHT IS APPROPRIATELY SET BACK AND IS NOT VISIBLE, OR IS MINIMALLY VISIBLE FROM THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL AT THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE PRIMARY STREET, THE PROPOSED SKYLIGHT ADEQUATELY MEETS THE STANDARDS.
HOWEVER, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE THIS INFORMATION AS OF YET.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE NEXT MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL PROJECT INFORMATION OUTLINED IN THE STANDARDS EVALUATION SUMMARY.
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THANK YOU.IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? PLEASE COME DOWN, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES AS THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT.
UH, WE ARE DOING AN INTERIOR RENOVATION OF THIS BUILDING.
WE'RE REPLACING THE DOORS AND WINDOWS TO ENHANCE THE ENERGY CONSERVATION ASPECTS OF THE BUILDING.
WE'RE REPLACING THE EXISTING SKYLIGHT CUZ IT'S OLD AND LEAKY AND THEY NEED TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE FROM OUR STANDPOINT.
I HAD A, THERE WAS A QUESTION ON THE, UM, ON THE APPLICATION, SOMETHING ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT OF, UH, OF CASEMENT WINDOWS.
UM, AT THE TIME WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION, WE DIDN'T HAVE, UM, HISTORIC PHOTOS THAT INDICATED WHETHER THE HUNG WINDOWS WERE APPROPRIATE OR THE CASEMENT WERE APPROPRIATE.
THE, UH, DESIGNERS OF THE PROJECT WISH TO HAVE IT ALL CASEMENT.
WE'VE NOW, AND I BELIEVE WE INCLUDED 'EM WITH OUR UPDATED DRAWINGS.
WE HAVE SOME HISTORIC PHOTOS THAT DO SHOW THAT THOSE HUNG WINDOWS ON THE SIDES ARE APPROPRIATE AS WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE HUNG WINDOWS IN ONE CASEMENT.
THE CASEMENT IS IN THE CENTER? IN THE CENTER, CORRECT.
THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY BROKEN IN THAT PICTURE TO, THAT'S TO ILLUSTRATE THE CONDITION OF THE FRAMES.
UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS FRAME? UH, THIS ONE, UH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.
THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT, THE BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE BUILDING WITH THE AWNING OUT FRONT.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE DAVIS AND FINK.
AND IF YOU, IF WE COULD ZOOM IN VERY CLOSELY, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL THAT THOSE TWO WINDOWS ON THE SIDE ARE, ARE THE HUNG WINDOWS.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO MODIFY, UM, APPLICATION TO KEEP THOSE AS A, AS HUNG WINDOWS AND THE ONE IN THE CENTER OH, I'M SORRY, UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
YEAH, THOSE LOOK LIKE THEY'RE SINGLE HUNG TO US.
AND THEN THE ONE IN THE CENTER LOOKS LIKE A CASEMENT.
SO WE'D LIKE TO KEEP IT AS IT'S WAS IN HISTORICAL PHOTOS.
I CAN'T TELL WE, WE, UH, DON'T HAVE, UM, COMPUTER SCREENS, UH, AVAILABLE TO US THIS EVENING.
YEAH, YOU CAN GO TO THE CASE HIDDEN THERE.
YEAH, WE, WE FOUND THOSE PHOTOS AFTER WE SUBMIT OUR APPLICATION.
WE'D LIKE TO KEEP IT IN THAT CONDITION.
UM, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, APPLICANT? I HAD A QUESTION.
DO YOU KNOW IF THE WINDOWS AND DOORS ARE ORIGINAL OR NO, IT SLIP COVERED IN THE FIFTIES OR SIXTIES? WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
UM, JUDGING BY THE CONDITION OF THE WINDOWS ON THE UPSTAIRS, THEY MAY BE ORIGINAL.
WE'RE NOT SURE THAT THEY'RE RELATIVELY GOOD CONDITION, BUT WE DO SEE SOME DRY ROT ON THE SILLS.
UH, THE DOORS ON THE FIRST LEVEL AND DEFINITELY THE WINDOWS ARE NOT ORIGINAL.
THAT AS THE CONDITION YOU SEE THERE IS NOT THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED TO US.
UH, IT'S MORE OF AN 80 STOREFRONT.
THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE IN A VERY GOOD CONDITION AND PROBABLY REPLACED PROBABLY IN THE EIGHTIES RENOVATION MAYBE AFTER THAT WHEN THEY RESTORED IT BACK TO ITS HISTORIC CONDITION.
AND, AND DO YOU INTEND TO PUT INSULATED PANS IN ALL UNITS? YES, WE ARE THE WINDOWS AS WELL AS THE DOORS.
WE INTEND TO RE REGLAZE EVERYTHING TO ENHANCE THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY WITH THE, I BELIEVE THERE'S A GLAZING SPECIFICATION IN THERE THAT'LL BE CLEAR, LOW E UM, IT JUST HELPS WITH OUR AIR CONDITIONING FORCE.
AND HAVE YOU CONSIDERED HOW THAT'S GONNA IMPACT THE PROFILE OF THE POTENTIALLY ORIGINAL WINDOWS ON THE UPPER LEVEL? SO THE GLAZING ON THE UPPER LEVEL? IT SHOULDN'T ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, IT SHOULD NOT AFFECT THE PROFILE OF THE WINDOWS AT ALL.
WE WILL REGLAZE IT FROM THE INTERIOR, REMOVE THE, THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO REMOVE AND REPLACE WITH
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A, LIKE, FOR LIKE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, WOOD FRAME.BUT IF WE ARE TO ADHERE TO THE WISHES OF THIS, UH, ASSESSMENT, WE CAN REGLAZE THEM POSSIBLY IF THE CONDITION OF THE WINDOW REMAINS INTACT AND REGLAZE FROM THE INTERIOR AND NOT HAVE TO AFFECT THE EXTERIOR AT ALL.
BUT YOU WOULD RE GLAZE OR YOU'D REPLACE ENTIRELY BECAUSE I, WE, WE HAD INITIALLY REQUESTED TO REPLACE THEM ENTIRELY.
WE BELIEVE AFTER, UH, WE HAD OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR LOOK AT 'EM.
HE BELIEVES WE MAY BE ABLE TO KEEP EVERYTH.
WE CAN KEEP THE FRONT DOORS INTACT.
WE CAN KEEP MOST OF THE WINDOWS INTACT ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR.
THE SECOND FLOOR FROM THAT PHOTO, THERE IS SOME SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE.
LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY THREW A, UM, A BICYCLE LOCK THROUGH THE, THE CENTER WINDOW AT ONE POINT AND DAMAGE THAT CENTER CASEMENT WINDOW.
BOTH, ALL THREE OF THOSE WINDOWS ON THE SECOND LEVEL HAVE, UH, ROTTED FRAMES.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE DO HAVE A, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, MILL WORKER, THE CW WARNOCK THAT WE'RE, UH, GOING TO ASK FOR THEIR HELP TO REPLACE THESE IF WE NEED TO.
AND DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER MONTH BEFORE YOU FINALIZE THE EXACT SCOPE OF WHAT'S BEING REPLACED, WHAT'S BEING REPAIRED, HOW THE DETAILS ARE GONNA WORK? UH, WE'VE, WE'VE ASKED THE CONTRACTOR TO LEAVE THIS FACADE OF BOTH EXTERIOR FACADES ALONE.
UM, ANY OF THE INTERIOR RENOVATION CAN TAKE PLACE WITHOUT TOUCHING IT AT ALL.
BUT IN TERMS OF YOUR APPLICATION AND THE MATERIALS PRESENTED TO FINALIZE THESE DETAILS, WHICH I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED BEFORE WE CAN GIVE AN APPROVAL AS FAR AS THE LEVEL OF WHAT'S BEING RETAINED AND WHAT'S BEING REPLACED.
DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE ANOTHER MONTH BEFORE THAT'S ALL GONNA BE FINALIZED?
UM, BUT IF IT HELPS OUR CASE TO GET A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, WE WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.
WELL, THE NEXT ARC MEETING IS NEXT WEDNESDAY.
NEXT WEDNESDAY, WHICH I'M NOT GONNA BE AT.
UH, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE MORE DETAIL TO WORK OUT BEFORE PRICING COULD BE FINALIZED ANYWAY, IN TERMS OF THE, SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF THE TREATMENT OF THOSE WINDOWS.
BUT WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IN DISCUSSION.
WE ALWAYS PREFER REPAIR OVER REPLACEMENT AND ANY, EVEN PARTS OF THE WINDOW THAT CAN BE REPAIRED RATHER THAN REPLACED AS BETTER THAN REPLACING THE WHOLE KITTEN CABOODLE, UM, FROM OUR, FROM OUR STANDARDS.
COMMISSIONER LAROCHE? YES, I I I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE SKYLIGHT.
I TAKE IT THE SKY LIGHT'S NOT ORIGINAL.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THE SKY LIGHT'S ORIGINAL AT ALL.
IT'S, UH, IT LOOKS, UM, THERE IS A PHOTO I BELIEVE OF THE EXISTING SKYLIGHT.
I'M SURPRISED MY COLLEAGUE DIDN'T ASK THAT SINCE HE'S BECOME AN EFFICIENT AUTO OF SKYLIGHTS.
YOU'VE EVER THE PHOTO, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE, UH, STAFF'S NOTES.
AND YOU CAN TELL FROM THE CONSTRUCTION THAT THIS IS A MORE THAN LIKELY A, UH, PART OF THE EIGHTIES RENOVATION.
ARE YOU INCREAS YOU'RE NOT INCREASING THE OPENING OR REAR? UH, THE CONFIGURATION LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PROMINENT THAN WHAT WE SEE HERE.
WE ARE INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE OPENING.
AND SO THERE ARE THAT, THAT IS ONE OF TWO, YOU CAN SEE TOWARDS THE REAR.
THERE'S ANOTHER, UM, SORT OF ATRIUM TYPE SKYLIGHT.
WE WILL CONNECT THOSE TWO AND, OR, OR WE'LL MOVE THE SKYLIGHT TOWARDS THE FRONT AND REMOVE THIS SKYLIGHT.
UH, CAUSE THAT WAS THE OTHER REQUEST OF STAFF IS SOME MORE ANALYSIS ABOUT HOW VISIBLE THAT WOULD MAKE THIS FROM THE STREET.
AFTER WE RECEIVED THOSE NOTES, WE, WE DID DO A VISUAL ANALYSIS, UH, PERSPECTIVES AND, UH, SECTIONS LOOKING FROM, LET'S SEE, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE THE, MAYBE OUR NEXT SET.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP DRAWING, THE SKYLIGHT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING.
THE DARKER PORTION TOWARDS THE WEST, WHERE THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT DRAWING IS THE EXISTING SKYLIGHT WHERE WE ARE HOLDING THAT, THE NEW SKYLIGHT BACK FROM THE FACE OF THE BUILDING, 56 FEET, I BELIEVE
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SIX FEET, UH, 56 FEET.FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THEN FROM THE ALLEY IT'S 72 FEET.
AND FROM THE, UH, THE STREET LEVEL, THE NEW SKYLIGHT WILL NOT BE VISIBLE PER OUR SIGHTLINE DRAWING THERE.
AND THOUGH IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT DIMENSION JUST BASED ON THE SCALE.
IT'S SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN THE EXISTING, BUT NOT BY MUCH.
BUT IT DOES HAVE A DIFFERENT PROFILE ACCORDING TO THE ELEVATION.
UH, OUR DESIGNERS OF THAT SKYLIGHT HAVE ATTEMPTED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PERIOD APPROPRIATE IF, UH, IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE, UH, 1920S, UM, MAYBE NOT AS OLD AS THIS BUILDING, BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? IS THERE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.
DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MAY 2ND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
UM, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? IF THIS IS ALLOWED? I WOULD MOVE TO RECOMMEND I'D MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE NEXT ARC MEETING AND POSTPONE THE CASE TO HEARING IN OUR NEXT, IN THE APRIL MEETING, SPECIFICALLY FOR TREATMENT OF THE FRONT FACADE, THE WINDOWS, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION OF ANY REMAINING HISTORIC MATERIAL, BUT TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE SKYLIGHT.
IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER VENEZUELAN DISCUSSION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR I JUST THINK THERE'S ENOUGH TO SHOW THAT THE SKYLIGHT IS NOT ORIGINAL AND WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
UM, I THINK THE APPLICANT IS GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT THERE MAY BE A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE JUST TO ENSURE THAT NO, THIS, THIS WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS SLIPCOVER AND RESTORED BETWEEN THE FIFTIES AND, UH, THE EIGHTIES, I SUPPOSE.
UM, SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DAMAGING ANY HISTORIC FABRIC THAT MAY HAVE REMAINED UNDER THAT SLIP COVER ALL THAT TIME.
UH, AND JUST, IT'S SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE GOOD CONTRACTORS IN MIND.
UH, BUT THERE WAS SOME HEAVY MENTION OF REPLACEMENT RATHER THAN REPAIR.
AND I KNOW PUTTING INSULATED PAINS IN HISTORIC FRAMES IS POSSIBLE, BUT EXTREMELY FRAUGHT.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS THOUGHT THROUGH ENOUGH THAT WE'RE APPROVING SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT BE, UM, REMOVING AN HISTORIC FABRIC IF THERE'S STILL 50% OR MORE OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOW LEFT.
FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
I DIDN'T DO MY FULL RESEARCH ON THIS ONE.
SO I WAS JUST LOOKING UP HISTORIC PHOTOS ON THE PORTAL OF TEXAS HISTORY AND LOOKING CLOSELY AT THE DETAILS OF THE BUILDING.
AND I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT THERE THAT IS REPLACEMENT BASED ON THE, THE SLIP COVER.
SO THE, THE ROUND, UM, UH, LINTELS MM-HMM.
THE CORNICE ALL APPEARS TO BE REPLACEMENT.
THAT'S KIND OF A SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF THE HISTORIC, AND, AND THE WINDOWS TO ME LOOK TO BE ABOUT FROM THAT SAME PERIOD OF, OF CONSTRUCTION.
UM, WHENEVER, WHENEVER THEY REMOVED THE SLIP COVER, THEY DID SOME CREATIVE, UH, RESTORATION.
WELL, YEAH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE FORCED TO BECAUSE WHOEVER PUT THE SLIP COVER UP, IT PROBABLY CHOPPED SOME THINGS DOWN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.