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          SIX O'CLOCK 
          [Call to Order]
I CALL TO ORDER THE ZONING AND PLATING COMMISSION. 
          UH, IT IS TUESDAY, MARCH 21ST, 2023, AND WE ARE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 
          UM, WE WILL START WITH A ROLL CALL. 
          WE HAVE THREE NEW COMMISSIONERS, SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH A ROLL CALL. 
          ROLL CALL. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER ACOSTA IS NOT HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER BOONE. 
          HE IS NOT HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER FLORES, I'LL GET YOU GUYS TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES IN IN A MINUTE. 
          LET ME GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL FIRST. 
          COMMISSIONER FLOYD, RIGHT HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER FOUTS. 
          PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER GREENBERG? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER KIELBASA. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER SMITH IS ME. 
          I'M HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER STERN. 
          HE IS AT A MEETING WITH TRANSPORTATION AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? I AM HERE. 
          CAN I CONFIRM THAT FLORES AND FLOYD AND FOUTS SAID HERE? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEW SECRETARY HERE, . 
          SO LET'S START AT THIS END. 
          YOU GUYS CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELVES. 
          YOU'VE NOT MADE A MEETING YET, SO, UH, YEAH. 
          SO I'M RYAN JOHNSON, UH, APPOINTED BY, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL FROM DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          UH, EXCITED TO JOIN AND, UH, SERVE, SEE WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. 
          . 
          WELCOME ABOARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU HEAR ME? MM-HMM. 
           COMMISSIONER ALEJANDRO FLORES. 
          I WAS APPOINTED BY RYAN ALTAR WITH DISTRICT FIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE OTHER END. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M COMMISSIONER DAVE FLOYD. 
          I WAS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE AS WELL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? START WITH HEARING NONE. 
          WE'LL GO INTO 
          [Consent Agenda]
THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 
          ITEM ONE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF MARCH 7TH, 2023. 
          THESE WILL BE CONSENT ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH OH ONE THIRTY THREE TEN SEVEN OH ONE DESAL ROAD DISTRICT ONE. 
          IT IS UP FOR AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS SF TWO TO MF FOUR AND IT IS SCHEDULED FOR DISCUSSION. 
          UH, ITEM THREES ARE REZONING, UH, C 14 20 22 DASH OH 110 AT 76 0 5 ALBERT ROAD IN DISTRICT FIVE. 
          IT IS, UH, FROM DR TO SF SIX, AND IT IS SCHEDULED FOR DISCUSSION. 
          ITEM FOUR IS A REZONING C 14 20 23 DASH 0 0 6 WIND LANE, SINGLE FAMILY IN DISTRICT FIVE. 
          IT IS A REZONING FROM MH TO SF THREE, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TO APRIL 4TH. 
          ITEM FIVE, PRELIMINARY PLAN C 8 20 22 DASH OH THREE THREE OH HARRIS BRANCH, COMMERCE PARK PRELIMINARY PLAN. 
          IT IS 14 LOTS ON 297.37 ACRES, AND IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS AS OUTLINED IN EXHIBIT C. 
          ITEM SIX IS A SITE PLAN, HILL COUNTRY ROADWAY AND VARIANCES. 
          SPC 2021 DASH OH 1 9 5 C KALO STUDIO IN DISTRICT 10 AT 79 0 1 FM 2222 ROAD. 
          UM, THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION TO SUPPORT THE VARIANCES AND IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER GREENBERG? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE VARIANCE FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION INCLUDES THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WOULD, I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          OKAY, MS. COMMISSIONER KE ELBASO, DO I HERE A SECOND. 
          I SECOND THE, I SECOND THE MOTION COMMISSIONER ALEJANDRO SECONDS. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? NONE. 
          THAT WAS UNANIMOUS. 
          OKAY, I'M GOING 
          [2. Rezoning: C14-2022-0133 - 10701 Dessau Road; District 1]
TO, THE FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM IS ITEM TWO, AGAIN AT C 14 20 22 DASH OH ONE THIRTY THREE TEN SEVEN OH ONE DESSAU ROAD, DISTRICT ONE. 
          IT IS A REZONING FROM SF TWO TO MF FOUR, AND I WILL HEAR A SIX MINUTE PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT. 
          AND THEN ANY OTHER APP, UH, SPEAKERS IN FAVOR WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEN A SIX MINUTE PRESENTATION FROM THE OPPOSITION. 
          AND ANY OF THOSE MEMBERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          AND THEN HOW MANY, SORRY. 
          CHECK COMMISSION. 
          , I WANNA HEAR BEGIN WHEN HEARING FROM STAFF? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          FORGOT. 
          HEAR FROM STAFF FIRST . 
          AND LET SIT ON THE RECORD THAT WE NOW HAVE. 
          COMMISSIONER ACOSTA IS HERE. 
          OH, THE CHAIR. 
          SO STAFF. 
          WHO IS THE STAFF PERSON ON THIS? OKAY, COME ON UP. 
          WE HAVE SOME NEW STAFF MEMBERS TOO. 
          SHOULD THEY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS WELL? YEAH. 
          . 
          HI, MY NAME 
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IS JONATHAN TOMKO. 
          I'M WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, I'M GONNA BE PRESENTING CASE C 14 2020 2 1 33, WHICH IS 10,000 7 0 1 DESSAU ROAD. 
          THE PARCEL IS 11.9 ACRES AND THE REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT IS TO GO FROM SF TWO TO MF FOUR. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS THE MF FOUR ZONING. 
          THE APPLICANT ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS REQUESTED ANNEXATION OF THE SUBJECT TRACK. 
          THE TRACK HAS BEEN IN AUSTIN'S LIMITED PURPOSE JURISDICTION SINCE 1984 AND IS CURRENTLY SERVED BY TRAVIS COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT FOUR. 
          IF THE ANNEXATION IS APPROVED, THE AREA WOULD BECOME PART OF AUSTIN'S FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE IS ALSO A VALID PETITION FOR THIS CASE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK. 
          UM, THE SUBJECT IS CURRENTLY, UH, A VACANT SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE ON THE 11.9 ACRES. 
          THE HOME IS APPROXIMATELY 2,700 SQUARE FEET AND WAS BUILT IN THE EARLY 1970S. 
          TO THE NORTH IS WOODCLIFF BA BAPTIST CHURCH AND SEVERAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUILT ALONG WANDERING WAY IN THE LATE SEVENTIES TO THE SOUTH ARE TWO ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON VERY LARGE PARCELS. 
          THEY ARE 10,000 6 0 1 DESAW, WHICH IS ON 3.2 ACRES, WHICH WAS BUILT IN THE 1990S AND 10,800 WANDERING WAY, WHICH WAS BUILT IN THE 1970S. 
          AND IT IS ON 9.36 ACRES TO THE EAST ARE 18 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG WANDERING WAY AND FIVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG ECHO BL BLUFF COVE. 
          UH, LARGELY BUILT IN THE 1970S. 
          TO THE WEST IS THE COLLINWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LEGENDS OAKS HEALTHCARE AND REHABILITATION NORTH AUSTIN CENTER. 
          UM, THERE IS NO FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR REGULATING PLAN THAT HAS THIS PARCEL IN IT. 
          UM, WHILE THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FOR THIS PARCEL, THE HERITAGE HILLS WINDSOR HILLS COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD AREA PLAN, UH, IS ACROSS DESAL ROAD TO THE WEST. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2011 AND DESAL ROAD FUNCTIONS AS A SIX-LANE ARTERIAL ROADWAY, WHICH IS A LEVEL FOUR UNDER THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, OR AS MP. 
          IT HAS MANY MORE INTENSIVE USES THAT ARE ALONG THE ROADWAY. 
          THERE IS A CAPITAL METRO BUS STOP WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE SITE, AND THE SITE IS ON AN IMAGINED AUSTIN CORRIDOR. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THE MF FOUR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCE HIGH, MODERATE HIGH DENSITY DISTRICT ZONING IN ORDER TO PROVIDE 330 PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS. 
          UH, THE PETITION CURRENTLY, UH, AS IN YOUR BACKUP, UH, INCLUDED 22.56% OF ELIGIBLE SIGNATURES TO MEET THE 20% THRESHOLD FOR A VAL VALID PETITION. 
          THIS HAS BEEN INCREASED TO 42.5% OF ELIGIBLE SIGNATURES AND TWO ADDITIONAL SIGNATURES, WHICH SHOULD HAVE YET TO BE CONFIRMED BY THE CITY CLERK. 
          UH, THE BASIS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE STATEMENT OF THE DISTRICT'S SOUGHT. 
          UH, THERE ARE, UH, AS I MENTIONED, MANY EXAMPLES OF LI CS MF G AND L O ZONING ALONG DESSAU ROAD TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. 
          UH, THE ADOPTED HERITAGE HILLS WINDSOR HILL COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST IDENTIFIES PARCELS ALONG DESSAU ROAD FOR HIGHER DENSITY. 
          SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY USES THE PARCEL LIES ON AN IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDOR BETWEEN TWO IMAGINE AUSTIN JOB CENTERS, THE BFI CENTER AND CAMERON 180 3 AND ONE IMAGINE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AT LAMAR AND RUNDBERG. 
          UH, THE SECOND BASIS OF ZONING WAS THE PROPOSED ZONING SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          RECENTLY THIS CORRIDOR WAS IDENTIFIED AS A MEDIUM COMPATIBILITY COORDINATOR CORRIDOR BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 2 12 1 DASH 56, WHICH MODIFIES COMPATIBILITY AND PARKING STANDARDS FOR CERTAIN CORRIDORS TO INCREASE HOUSING CAPACITY AND SUPPORT TRANSIT INVESTMENTS. 
          THIS ORDINANCE REDUCES THE DISTANCE AT WHICH COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS APPLY, ALLOWS GREATER HEIGHT AND THUS MORE HOUSING ALONG CORRIDORS IN EXCHANGE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND REDUCES MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE PROJECTS, UNLISTED CORRIDORS. 
          THESE CORRIDORS WERE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED BY COUNCIL WITH THE GOAL OF HELPING GENERATE MORE HOUSING AND SUPPORTING TRANSIT. 
          AND THE THIRD BASIS OF RECOMMENDATION IS INTENSIVE. 
          MULTI-FAMILY ZONING SHOULD BE LOCATED ON MA MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADWAYS AND HIGHWAYS. 
          THE MF FOUR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING CATEGORY IS A DESIGNATION FOR MULTI-FAMILY AND GROUP RESIDENTIAL USES WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 36 TO 54 UNITS PER ACRE, DEPENDING ON THE UNIT SIZE. 
          UH, THE CITY'S CODE RECOMMENDS THAT THIS DESIGNATION MAY BE APPLIED TO HIGH DENSITY, 
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UM, WHERE HIGH HIGH DENSITY HOUSING AND IN CENTRALLY LOCATED AREAS WHERE SUPPORTING TRANSPORTATION, COMMERCIAL FACILITIES AND MAJOR INDUSTRIAL AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS ARE LOCATED. 
          AS I MENTIONED, UH, DESAL ROAD IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL. 
          IT'S SIX LANES, THREE IN EACH DIRECTION. 
          I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS IF YOU, OR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, I WANNA GIVE SOME TIME FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO SPEAK. 
          I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU RECEIVED THIS MEMORANDUM WITH ADDITIONAL BACKUP. 
          I RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS WITHIN THE LAST 48 HOURS, AND I'VE DONE MY VERY BEST. 
          EVERYTHING THAT I RECEIVED. 
          THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A FEW THINGS THAT WERE LEFT OUT OF THE BACKUP FROM THE PREVIOUS CASE MANAGER AS THIS WAS A CASE THAT I INHERITED FROM A PREVIOUS CASE MANAGER. 
          SO I DID MY BEST TO GET, OBTAIN AS MUCH AS I COULD AND CORRESPOND WITH FOLKS ACCORDINGLY. 
          AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS IN THE MEMO, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SIGN THE PETITION, BUT WERE NOT WITHIN THE 200 MILE RADIUS OF THE SITE. 
          SO I EXPLAINED, IN ORDER TO BE ON THE CITY'S, UH, OFFICIAL PETITION, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE WITHIN THE 200 FEET. 
          AND IF THEY'D LIKE TO CREATE A KIND OF UNOFFICIAL PETITION OF OTHER FOLKS WITHIN A LARGER AREA, THEY'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TO ACCEPT THAT AS WELL IN TERMS OF THE BACKUP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          I'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, MR. DAVID HARTMAN. 
          MR. HARTMAN, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          DAVID HARTMAN ON BEHALF OF, UH, THE DEVELOPER, UH, O O H T PARTNERS. 
          I ALSO HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND CIVIL ENGINEER HERE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THIS FIRST BULLET REALLY SUMMARIZES THE ENTIRE ZONING CASE. 
          REALLY, IT'S 11 NINE, UH, 12 ACRES, BASICALLY ON DESAR ROAD, PROPOSING 330 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS ON DESAR ROAD, WHICH IS AN IMAGINED CORRIDOR, A MAJOR ARTERIAL A S AND P LEVEL FOUR STREET WITH CONTINUOUS BIKE LANES AND SIDEWALKS TO BUS STOPS, LESS THAN ONE HALF MILE AWAY. 
          THERE'S NO DISPLACEMENT. 
          UM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE YOU WANT THESE KIND OF PROJECTS TO BE, AS COMPARED TO THOSE WHO MIGHT WANT TO LOCK THIS, UH, TRACK IN AMBER WITH SF TWO. 
          CURRENTLY, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO WATER QUALITY DETENTION. 
          WE'LL BRING IT TO CURRENT CODE INCLUDING ATLAS 14. 
          UM, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED IN SF TWO AND IT'S ANNEX FOR A LIMITED PURPOSE IN THE EIGHTIES. 
          WE'RE PROPOSING MF FOUR ADJACENT USES INCLUDE MF FOUR, MF THREE. 
          UH, THE DEVELOPMENT IS AGAIN 330 UNITS. 
          I'VE GOT SLIDES THAT, UH, HIT EVERY ONE OF THESE BULLETS. 
          IT'S AGAIN, HALF A MILE TO THE BUS STOP ADJACENT BIKE LANES AND SIDEWALKS. 
          UM, PROJECT CONNECT HAS A FUTURE, UH, SHOWS YOU THIS IS A FUTURE EXPANSION AND IT'S GOT SIGNIFICANT EXISTING TREES AND VEGETATION ONSITE TO THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH. 
          WE'RE, UH, VOLUNTARILY ANNEXING, UH, THIS TRACK. 
          SO WE'LL ADD TO THE CITY TAX BASE AND WE'VE MET WITH AT T D AND THERE'S A RIGHT IN WRITE OUT ONLY ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND WE ON OUR OWN PART WILL BE DEDICATING 15 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE CITY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND THEN THERE'S MULTIPLE CURRENT FUTURE AREA MOBILITY OF IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA. 
          AND THE, UH, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED MF FOUR OUR REQUESTS. 
          THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP. 
          UM, THE AERIAL SHOWS IT JUST SOUTH OF BREAKER, UH, NORTH OF RUNDBERG LANE. 
          YOU ZOOM IN ON THIS AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S PRETTY HEAVY VE VEGETATED BUFFER ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE, AGAIN, ON AN IMAGINED AUSTIN CORRIDOR ADJACENT TO TWO JOB CENTERS. 
          UH, IMAGINE AUSTIN CENTERS IN AN, IN A, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AS WELL. 
          IT'S A LEVEL FOUR STREET AS M P, IT'S GOT A BUS, TWO BUS STOPS REALLY NEARBY, HALF A MILE AWAY. 
          CAT METRO HAS PICKUP SERVICE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO US, WHICH JUST MEANS THAT A PERSON CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND ASK CAT METRO TO COME PICK YOU UP IN A VAN AND BRING YOU TO A BUS STOP. 
          WE'LL, OBVIOUSLY PETITION TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT AFTER WE'RE DEVELOPED A PROJECT CONNECT SHOWS THIS AS A FUTURE POTENTIAL FUTURE EXPANSION FOR METRO RAPID RIGHT HERE ALONG THIS AREA. 
          AND THEN I'VE JUST DISCUSSED THE BIKE ROUTES HAVE BEEN MENTIONED AND THERE'S A BIKE ROUTES, UH, TO TWO BUS, NOT ONE, BUT TWO BUS STOPS IMMEDIATELY, LIKE NEXT DOOR. 
          AND THIS HAS, THIS IS BASICALLY DEAD CENTER IN THE FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY. 
          IT SHOWS THE STRIKE TO BIKE LANE THREE, THREE LANES NORTHBOUND AND A SEPARATED MEDIAN VEGETATED WITH TREES. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY THE CONDITIONS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR TRACT. 
          UM, AGAIN, THERE'S BIKE ROUTES TO THE BUS ADJACENT SIDEWALKS TO THAT BUS STOPS. 
          AND THIS JUST SHOWS THE LIMITED PERSON PURPOSE ANNEXATION. 
          IT'S TRUE THAT THERE'S SF TWO RIGHT IN THIS AREA, BUT YOU DRAW BACK AND LOOK, THE REASON THAT STAFF, UH, AGREED WITH OUR APPLICATION WAS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MF THREE AND MF FOUR IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT. 
          AND YOU LOOK AT THE BROADER TREND UP AND DOWN THIS CORRIDOR, THERE'S G RM U, WHICH IS EQUIVALENT MF FOUR FROM A RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT STANDPOINT, MF THREE TO THE NORTH, UM, YOU KNOW, 
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MORE, MORE INTENSIVE ZONING TO THAN SF TWO. 
          FRANKLY, THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST TRACKS, UM, THAT'S UNDEVELOPED. 
          AND YOU SEE THE MODERN TREND THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH THE ZONING CASES HAVE ALL BEEN RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS AREA. 
          SO THIS IS RIGHT IN LINE AND RIGHT IN KEEPING OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          UM, I EXPECT WE'LL HEAR ABOUT, UM, SOME TRAFFIC CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS. 
          BOTTOM LINE IS THE CITY'S ALREADY GOT, UM, AREA MOBILITY PROJECTS, NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT DESSO AND BRADBURY HAS COMPLETED TR NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT DESSO AND CHILDREN NEW INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND AGAIN, I'LL JUST REMIND YOU WHAT I SAID, THAT ON OUR OWN PART, WE'RE GONNA BE DEDICATING 15 FOOT OF RIGHT OF WAY, UM, FOR FUTURE FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          SO TO ME, IT'S A SIMPLE CASE. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING A MUCH NEEDED HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE COUNCIL DIRECTOR FOR MORE HOUSING IN ALL AREAS THAN ALL MAJOR CORRIDOR NEAR TRANSIT, NO DISPLACEMENT, EXCUSE ME. 
          AND THE BOTTOM LINE POLICY CHOICE IS, IS THIS, UM, CITY COUNCIL, THIS CITY GOING TO BASICALLY REZONE FOR A MORE EQUITABLE, UM, MORE, EXCUSE ME, RESILIENT AND SUSTAINABLE, UH, TYPE OF ZONING THAN THE CURRENT ZONING. 
          AND WE'VE GOT ALL THESE BULLET POINTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          AND I, I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, RECOMMEND STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT CHAIR WILL NOT HEAR FROM, UM, COMPOSITION. 
          UM, WELL ALSO REGISTERED FOR, UM, THE APPLICANT IS KELLY REESE WHO WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF NEEDED. 
          AND NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM THE, UM, OPPOSITION BEGINNING WITH CATHERINE HORTON. 
          MS. HORTON, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR AND COMMITTEE COMMISSION MEMBERS. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR THE OPPOSITION FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE. 
          I FIRST WANNA START OUT WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD UNDERSTANDS THE NEED FOR HOUSING IN AUSTIN. 
          SO THIS IS NOT AN OPPOSITION TO INCREASING HOUSING, BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND HOW IT IMPACTS NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THE SAFETY WITHIN DESSA. 
          YOU ALSO HAVE THIS IN HANDOUT FORMAT FOR YOU, IF THAT'S EASIER FOR YOU TO, TO READ OR LOOK THROUGH AND WON'T GO THROUGH THIS BACKGROUND THAT WAS JUST SHARED. 
          I THINK A FEW THINGS TO NOTE THOUGH IS THAT THIS REZONING FROM SF TWO TO MF FOUR WOULD ALLOW UP TO 60 FEET TALL, GREATER THAN A THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING SET ONLY 150 FEET FROM ANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          AS ME MENTIONED, THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON ALL SIDES. 
          ADDITIONALLY, IT WILL INCREASE THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, 70% SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTING THE ENVIRONMENT THAT SURROUNDS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH WILL HELP WALK THROUGH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          SO THE, AS MENTIONED, THERE ARE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AS COMPARED TO SOME OF THOSE JUST TO THE SOUTH WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF AT RUNDBERG OR NO, NORTH AT DEON PALMER. 
          AND SO SOME OF THAT'S ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SAFETY, THAT PROPERTY IMPACT TO HOMEOWNERS CURRENTLY IN THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HELPS SUPPORT A DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S 330 APARTMENTS OR UP TO THE 660 PLUS THE MF FOUR ZONING DESIGNATION WOULD ALLOW, THERE'S SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND SOME PRETTY HISTORICAL SITES HERE IN AUSTIN WITH, UH, THE CHANGES THAT WOULD COME WITH THIS PROPERTY. 
          IT ALSO SETS A POOR PRECEDENT, UM, AND ALSO AS AN INCOMPATIBLE USE COMPARED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING IT. 
          SO THIS JUST HELPS GIVE AN IDEA JUST IN THAT MILE AND A HALF STRETCH BETWEEN RUNDBERG TO WONDERING WAY THAT MILE AND A HALF, THERE'S OVER EIGHT INTERSECTIONS FROM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE NO SORT OF TRAFFIC, UM, SIGNALS PROTECTED LANES. 
          SO IT'S A REALLY DANGEROUS SECTION OF ROAD, JUST THOSE EIGHT, UM, INTERSECTIONS FOR THAT ONE AND A HALF MILES FROM RUNDBERG ALL THE WAY TO WONDERING WAY THAT ALSO DOESN'T INCLUDE THE OTHER EIGHT INTERSECTIONS WITH OTHER APARTMENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE FROM WANDERING WAY ALL THE WAY TO PALMER. 
          SO THIS SECTION OF RUNDBERG IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY, UM, HIGHLY TRAFFICKED AREA. 
          IN SOME OF THE TEXT DOT INFORMATION WE SEE OVER 40,000 TRIPS ARE MADE ON THIS SECTION ALONE OF DESAL, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER ARTERY THAT'S COMING THROUGH IN AUSTIN, WHETHER THAT'S LAMAR, BURNETT, METRICK, ANYTHING IN THAT NORTH TO SOUTH CORRIDOR. 
          REALLY, PALMER LANE IS ONE OF THE MO UH, DESAW LANE IS REALLY ONE OF THE HIGHLY TRAFFICKED AREAS IN AUSTIN. 
          WHAT WASN'T SHOWN REALLY WHEN YOU STARTED LOOKING, YOU CAN HEAR MY KIDDO IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          WHAT WASN'T SHOWN WHEN YOU SAW THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS THAT ACTUALLY TO GET TO 1 0 7 0 1 DESSAU ROAD, YOU'RE COMING UP A BLIND CORNER AND THE SPEEDS HERE AT 50 MILES PER HOUR. 
          SAME THING IS TRUE WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT, IF IT'S A RIDE IN RIDE OUT, ONLY YOU ARE GOING TO BE COMING ACROSS 
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A OVER THE HILL AT 50 MILES PER HOUR. 
          JUST THE DANGER ALONE AT PUDDING, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OF 330 FAM HOMES IN THIS AREA IS SIGNIFICANT IN, IN TERMS OF SAFETY ON DESSA. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA ABOUT SAFETY ON DESSO ROAD ROAD ITSELF, ALMOST 200 CRASHES IN JUST A MILE AND A HALF SECTION OF DESSA BETWEEN RUNDBERG AND WONDERING WAY. 
          AND OF THOSE, A THIRD OF THEM ARE AT GREATER THAN 50 MILES PER HOUR. 
          WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY OF DESSA AND TRAFFIC ON THIS ROAD WITH THIS, UM, CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY TWO TO MULTI-FAMILY FOUR. 
          FIRE STATION 23 IS THE MAIN FIRE STATION AT SERVICE FOR THIS AREA. 
          AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR A HUGE SECTION OF HIGHLY TRAFFICKED AREAS IN AUSTIN, INCLUDING ALL THE WAY OVER TO 35 SOUTH, DOWN TO 51ST AND ONE OF THE BUSIEST STATIONS ALREADY IN AUSTIN. 
          JUST THE SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE ALONE TO SERVICE THESE COMMUNITIES IS PRETTY IMPORTANT. 
          WE HEARD ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FOR HERITAGE HILLS AND WIZARD WINDSOR HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY KEY ABOUT THIS ADOPTED, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS THAT IT'S REALLY SUPPOSED TO HELP PRESERVE THE SINGLE STABLE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SURROUND IT. 
          WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE FROM THAT PLAN ITSELF IS THAT WHAT IS ACROSS FROM THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THOSE AS WELL ALONG THE WAY WHERE THERE ARE MODERATE CHANGES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS NOT TO MF FOUR. 
          SO MF FOUR IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE COMPARED TO WHAT WAS ACTUALLY ACCEPTED WITHIN ITS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. 
          AND ONE OF THE PRIORITY ACTIONS HERE WAS TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER WITHIN THE SINGLE COURT, THE ESTABLISHED CORE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT ALSO TO ALLOW FOR GROWTH. 
          WHAT YOU WILL NOTICE FROM THIS PROPERTY IS SOUTH IS MUCH MORE INDUSTRIAL AND THAT TRANSITIONS THROUGH PIONEER HILL, THROUGH MF FOUR TO MF THREE, AND ALL THE OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX AROUNDS NORTH OF THAT BECOME MF TWO. 
          SO THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE AND NOT A MODERATE CHANGE AS UM, SUGGESTED THIS HELPS KIND OF DEMONSTRATE WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF THE ZONING SPECIFICALLY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALSO IS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT TO HOMEOWNERS ALONG THIS PROPERTY. 
          WHETHER THAT'S THE HOMEOWNERS IN, IN, UH, WOODCLIFF THAT WILL BE BACKING UP TO IT, WHERE THEY NOW WILL HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX JUST 150 FEET AWAY FROM THEM BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT. 
          THEY'LL ACTUALLY BLOCK OUT SETTING SUN FROM OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, WHICH IS KIND OF INTERESTING TO THINK THROUGH, BUT ALSO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF THE VALUE OR RESALE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES. 
          UM, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, AS MENTIONED, THERE ARE SOME LARGER TRACK ACREAGE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND THOSE HOME NUMBERS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT TO THEIR PROPERTY. 
          WHAT WILL THAT CHANGE? FOR EXAMPLE, THE RIGHT NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR ON A FEW ACRES, RETIRED VETERAN, PRETTY HOME BOUND, THIS IS THEIR RETIREMENT HOME AND THEY'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAS THAT CHANGE BOTH IN TERMS OF THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY, THE TAXATION, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO STAY IN THAT HOME, AND THEN THE SAFETY OF BEING ABLE TO COME IN AND OUT. 
          IT REALLY HAS A DESTABILIZING EFFECT ON THESE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SURROUND IT. 
          WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS THERE'S OTHER SLIDES IN HERE, BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR US TOO IS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY BACKS UP TO, UM, WALNUT CREEK AND TO PIONEER FARMS, AND THE IMPOUNDING OF ANY WATER ON IT WILL ACTUALLY IMPACT THE ABILITY OF PIONEER FARMS TO MAINTAIN THAT HISTORICAL SITE, INCLUDING OWN OVER 500 YEAR OLD TREE. 
          OKAY, IF YOU CAN WRAP UP, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SPEAKERS TONIGHT. 
          THAT WAS THE BUZZER, SO I HAVE LOST POWER TO MOVE TO YOUR VERY LAST ONE. 
          UM, AND SO WE REALLY RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU, UM, DENY BOTH THIS REZONING REQUEST AND REALLY THINK THROUGH THE IMPACT BOTH TO THE SUBSTANCE AND CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY AROUND IT. 
          WE AREN'T OPPOSED TO INCLUDING HOUSING, RIGHT? BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND THE IMPACT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MS. HALL CORTEL ON THE, UH, TELECONFERENCE. 
          IF YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I OWN A HOME AT 1502 ECHO BLUFF CO. 
          I BOUGHT IT SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND SINCE I BOUGHT IT, I PUT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF IMPROVEMENTS INTO IT. 
          MY CONCERN, BESIDES EVERYTHING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED BY THE FIRST SPEAKER IS THAT IT'S REALLY GOING TO REDUCE THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY. 
          IN FACT, I THINK IT BASICALLY NEGATES THE WHOLE A HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT I PUT INTO IMPROVEMENTS. 
          I HAVE BEEN A REALTOR IN AUSTIN FOR 40 YEARS. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO SELL A HOUSE THAT BACKS TO MULTI-FAMILY, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE THERE. 
          IN ORDER TO GET ANYBODY EVEN SLIGHTLY INTERESTED IN BUYING A HOME LIKE THAT, 
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IT HAS TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY CHEAPER THAN THE HOUSES JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          IT HAS THE SAME IMPACT AS BACKING TO A MAJOR ROAD. 
          SOMEBODY IS GONNA MAKE ABOUT 500 TIMES MORE THAN THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND OF VALUE THAT I GET ROBBED OF AND ALL THE OTHER NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS ARE ROBBED OF. 
          THAT'S MY RETIREMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IMPACTS PEOPLE DIRECTLY IN THEIR LIFE AND THEIR FUTURE. 
          I'M ASKING THAT THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD MAYBE COMPENSATE THE OWNERS WHOSE VALUES ARE DEVASTATED OUT OF THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PROFITS THEY STAMP AND MAKE. 
          OR MAYBE THEY COULD BE REQUIRED TO LEAVE A SUBSTANTIAL GREEN BELT BETWEEN THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND OUR PROPERTIES, OR MAYBE EVEN BUILD AN AREA OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO BACK UP TO OUR HOUSES. 
          BUT THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT NOBODY WOULD WANNA BUY THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO A GINORMOUS APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          IT'S CHANGES LIKE THIS THAT ARE DEVASTATING THE NATURE OF THE CITY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR GROWTH. 
          UH, BELIEVE ME, I'M A REALTOR. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS GROWING AND HOUSING IS NECESSARY. 
          I SOMEHOW REALLY DOUBT THAT THAT APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE WHAT I'VE SEEN BEING BUILT IS LUXURY APARTMENTS THAT COST AS MUCH TO RENT AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT OFFER FAR LESS. 
          IT DEVASTATES THE PRIVACY AND THE SERENITY OF MY PROPERTY AND ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO IT, WHICH IS THE REASON THAT I BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ALTERNATIVE BUILDING SITES AVAILABLE THAT ARE NOT ADJACENT TO ESTABLISH NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY CAN BE DEVELOPED TO THEIR HEARTS CONTENT WITHOUT DISRUPTING ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. 
          I, I THANK YOU. 
          I AM 66. 
          I KNOW A LOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL, NOW HEAR FROM MS. NATALIE JOHNSON. 
          UM, MS. JOHNSON, SELECT STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS NATALIE JOHNSON. 
          I'M OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING. 
          DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY UNDER MULTI-FAMILY ZONING WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          NOT ONLY WOULD IT INCREASE TRAFFIC ON AN ALREADY HIGH TRAFFIC AND HIGH ACCIDENT ROAD, BUT IT WOULD DRASTICALLY IMPACT PROPERTY VALUES, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE WHO SHARE A PROPERTY LINE WITH THIS LAND. 
          A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD DESTROY THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS IS A QUIET AND SERENE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD DESTROY THAT SERENITY AND ADDITION WOULD CREATE A MASSIVE INVASION OF PRIVACY FOR THOSE DIRECTLY ON THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          WE RECOGNIZE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS INEVITABLE. 
          THERE IS NO LACK OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES ALONG DESAL ROAD, BUT WHAT WE ASK IS TO PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP THIS PROPERTY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SINGLE FAMILY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. BURR'S CARPENTER, FOLLOWED BY RHONDA EVANS. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UH, MY NAME IS BERT CARPENTER AND I'M OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING. 
          UH, I'M A 35 YEAR RESIDENT OF AUSTIN, 20 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE WOODCLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO I'VE SEEN THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE CITY. 
          UM, AND PARTICULAR THIS ONE WE NOTING IS THAT THIS IS A CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN EXISTING SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES. 
          UM, THE WOODCLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD, AS YOU HEARD ALREADY, YOU'LL HEAR MORE OF IS A UNISON UNIFORMLY OPPOSED TO THIS CHANGE. 
          UM, I WANNA MAKE A A POINT. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT MADE THE STATEMENT THAT THE, UH, ADJACENT, UM, PROPERTIES OR MULTI-FAMILY OR ZONING, THAT'S A BOLD PLACE LIE. 
          YOU LOOK, NONE OF THEM, THEY'RE ALL SINGLE FAMILY EV EVERYTHING AROUND THAT, THAT LAND IS SINGLE FAMILY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PERSON CAN MAKE THAT STATEMENT. 
          AND YOU LOOK UP AND DOWN, UP AND AROUND ACROSS THE STREET, UP AND DOWN WITHIN, I DON'T KNOW, WITHIN AT LEAST QUARTER 
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MILE OR MORE ALL SINGLE FAMILY AS, AS KATE POINTED OUT. 
          SO THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD BE, THIS WOULD DESTROY THE INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER OF, OF THAT AREA. 
          UM, ANOTHER THING. 
          SO WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT DESSA ROAD AND, UM, IT'S USE, WELL, LET ME PUT IT FOR YOU VERY SIMPLY. 
          DESAL ROAD IS HELL. 
          DESAL ROAD IS HELL. 
          IT'S A KNIFE THAT CUTS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY'S DEATH SIDE OF TOWN. 
          UH, IT'S DANGEROUS. 
          UH, THERE ARE MANY ACCIDENTS ALMOST DAILY OUT THERE. 
          AS KATE POINTED OUT. 
          UH, THERE IS, UH, IT GAINY ACCESS TO THAT ROAD IS DIFFICULT AS IS. 
          WE COME OUT, UM, ON FROM OUR WOODCLIFF SUBDIVISION AND I HAVE TO WAIT AT LEAST THREE SECONDS, FOUR SECONDS BEFORE I GO OUT THERE BECAUSE SOMEONE 70 MILES AN HOUR WILL BE COMING THROUGH THAT LIGHT. 
          PEOPLE DON'T RESPECT IT. 
          UH, BIKE LANES. 
          YEAH, THERE'S A BIKE LANE THERE. 
          YOU'D HAVE TO BE INSANE TO RIDE A BIKE ON DES R ROAD. 
          YOU DID BE TAKE, YOU'D BE TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HAND. 
          NO ONE DOES IT. 
          NO ONE HAS RIDDEN THAT BIKE LANE. 
          BUS STOP. 
          SAME THING. 
          I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE TAKE THE BUS DOWN THERE. 
          SO YEAH, THIS IS YOUR MAYBE THE VISION FOR, FOR GROWTH, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT WORKING OUT LIKE I THINK IT'S LOOKS ON PAPER LIKE IT LIKE IT WAS PLANNED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF LOCATIONS IN AUSTIN WHERE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IS APPROPRIATE WEDGED IN IT AMONG SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IS NOT ONE OF THEM. 
          IT, IT'S DESTROYING THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF AUSTIN. 
          UH, I THINK THE BEST APPROACH TO, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS HOME OWNERSHIP. 
          LET'S, LET'S ENABLE THAT. 
          LET'S PROMOTE THAT. 
          THAT'S HOW WE, WE ENCOURAGE AND DEVELOP, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UH, I DON'T THINK THAT PARTICULAR TRACK DEPARTMENTS THERE ARE GONNA HELP THE HOUSING SITUATION AT ALL. 
          IT'S GONNA MAKE SOME DEVELOPERS AND SOME PROPERTY OWNERS, SOME RICH AT THE EXPENSE OF THE, THE NEIGHBORS. 
          BUT IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A DENT ON THE, UH, ON, ON WHAT'S YOU REALLY NEED. 
          CUZ THE TYPE OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN THERE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA BE DRIVING THEIR CARS. 
          NO ONE'S GONNA BE TAKING THE BUS, SO IT'S NOT GONNA WORK OUT LIKE IT WAS, LOOKS LIKE ON THAT, UH, PLAT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          I LISTEN, HOPE YOU LISTENED TO THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN AND, UM, DENY THIS, THIS APPLICATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WILL NOW HEAR FROM RHONDA EVANS, FOLLOWED BY MATT HORTON. 
          I'D ALSO LIKE TO EXPRESS MY THANKS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING. 
          UH, WOODCLIFFE IS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I MOVED THERE IN 2018 OR 19, I FORGET PRE PANDEMIC TIMELINES. 
          UH, I MOVED THERE FROM SOUTH CONGRESS WHERE I WAS LIVING IN A HIGH DENSITY AREA AND I FELT LIKE I TRAVELED BACK IN TIME. 
          I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN IN OHIO, AND THAT'S WHAT THE WOODCLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIKE. 
          UH, NEIGHBORS LOOK OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER. 
          WE'RE WE, WE TEXT ONE ANOTHER. 
          WHEN PACKAGES COME UP, PEOPLE COME AND PICK THEM UP FOR YOU. 
          WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PICNIC. 
          I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW MY NEIGHBORS IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS DID NOT KNOW THEM. 
          AND SO WHEN MOVING THERE WAS JUST A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY. 
          IT IS LIKE WHAT OLD AUSTIN FELT LIKE, AND IT'S ALSO A DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND WE HAVE AFFORDABLE RENTAL PROPERTIES, DUPLEXES IN THE FIRST TWO STREETS BETWEEN DESAW AND MY PROPERTY ON 1,110 BLUFF CANYON DRIVE. 
          SO WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO BEING A PART OF SOLVING THE OBVIOUS HOUSING PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN AUSTIN, BUT WE ARE ASKING THAT SOME JUDICIOUS DISCRETION BE EXERCISED IN WHERE YOU LOCATE THESE SORTS OF DEVELOPMENTS. 
          UH, THIS HOUSING, UM, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE BOUGHT IN WAS STILL RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE. 
          IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST PLACES WHERE SOMEONE WHO'S FACING RETIREMENT COULD BUY A HOME AND LIVE IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          PRICES HAVE GONE UP SINCE EVEN WHEN WE BOUGHT INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT IS THIS GREAT LITTLE BASTION OF OLD AUSTIN AND WE JUST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE, WHO'VE MADE THEIR LIVES HERE, AND WHO WANNA PRESERVE THAT QUALITY OF LIFE AND WHO AREN'T OPPOSED TO HAVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEARBY. 
          BUT THIS SORT OF HOUSING DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY IS NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          THERE'S PLENTY OF PROPERTY A LITTLE FURTHER OUT, UH, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF HOUSING, UH, MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH OF WHERE WE ARE. 
          WEDGING THIS INTO THESE PROPERTIES IS, IS JUST A BAD DECISION. 
          AND MY NEIGHBOR BIRD IS RIGHT. 
          I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE RIDE A BIKE ON THOSE BIKE LANES, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD. 
          DESSAU ROAD IS TERRIBLE. 
          I'M CONSTANTLY TELLING THE KIDS TO BE CAREFUL WHEN THEY EXIT WANDERING WAY ONTO DESSAU, UH, BECAUSE PEOPLE RUN THAT RED LIGHT. 
          THE MANEUVERS I'VE SEEN PEOPLE MAKE AT THAT INTERSECTION OF DESSAU BREAKER ARE RIDICULOUS. 
          AND SO TO INTRODUCE A LOT MORE PEOPLE WHO, LET'S BE HONEST, ARE GONNA BE DRIVING THEIR CARS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE MAKING USE OF THESE MYTHICAL BUS STOPS THAT EXIST AROUND THERE. 
          I MEAN, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT AND ACTUALLY SEE THIS 
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NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE THE PROPERTY. 
          AND I THINK BERT'S POINT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          THE WAY THIS LOOKS ON PAPER, THE WAY THIS SOUNDS, UH, AS A THOUGHT BUBBLE IS ONE THING. 
          BUT COMING OUT THERE AND SEEING HOW THIS WOULD CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS SOMETHING, UM, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE, UM, THIS DENSITY ON THIS LOVELY GREEN SPACE IS JUST A, IT'S A VERY BIG MISTAKE. 
          AND AS SOMEONE WHO'S LIVED IN AUSTIN MOSTLY SINCE 1997, JUST ASK YOU TO TAKE IN MIND THE, THE LONGTIME AUSTIN KNIGHTS AND TRY TO BALANCE THIS A LITTLE BETTER. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MATT HORTON, FOLLOWED BY BRIAN . 
          MR. HORTON, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A, UH, THANK YOU. 
          UH, MY NAME'S MATT HORTON. 
          I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. 
          AND SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS FOR SHOWING UP AND, UM, BEING IN SUPPORT, UH, OF ALL THIS. 
          UM, MY, UH, AND MY, MY WIFE WHO'S ACTUALLY HAD TO STEP OUT, UM, AND TAKE CARE OF THE, UH, UM, OUR THREE-YEAR-OLD, UM, WHO'S NOT HAVING A GOOD TIME TONIGHT. 
          BUT THIS I JUST WANT, WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS, LIKE THAT'S THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE'RE WILLING TO GO TO, TO OPPOSE, UH, THIS, UM, IS THIS THE, THE CONTROL STORE? ALL RIGHT, GOOD. 
          BEFORE I GET TO THIS, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE, UM, THE CASE MANAGER'S COMMENTS. 
          I WOULD TAKE UMBRIDGE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CHARACTERIZATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS A FEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          UH, NORTH OF THE, OF THE DEVELOPMENT WE'RE AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR NAME IS WOODCLIFF. 
          UM, UH, THE, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THE, UH, UM, UH, THE COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WHICH, WHICH DOES ACTUALLY PROTECT, UM, UH, WINDSOR HILLS AND HERITAGE HILLS ON THE OTHER SIDE, UH, OF, OF DESSAU UNDER THE BASIS OF RECOMMENDATION. 
          THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, LAST PAR, UH, LAST SENTENCE OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH DESCRIBES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF DESSAU IDENTIFIES SEVERAL PARCELS ALONG FOR HIGHER DENSITY, UM, AND MULTI-FAMILY, UH, UH, USE. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY FACTUALLY INCORRECT. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, AT, AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, THOSE PARCELS ARE ACTUALLY ON BLUFF BEND, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO MILE MI MILE AND A HALF, TWO MILES TO THE WEST OF US. 
          SO THAT ACTUALLY BASES THAT, THAT, THAT STATEMENT IS ACTUALLY FACTUALLY INCORRECT. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE IT REMOVED FROM THE RECORD. 
          UM, UH, UM, AS, AS, AS BEING SUCH, UM, FURTHER DOWN, IT TALKS ABOUT THE, THIS AREA BEING CENTRALLY LOCATED AND NEAR SUPPORTING TRANS, UH, TRANSPORTATION COMMERCIAL FACILITIES. 
          WE'RE NOT CENTRALLY LOCATED TO CENTRAL AUSTIN. 
          WE'RE NOT NEAR, UH, ANY KIND OF TRANSPORTATION SUPPORTING TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT BUS STOP THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THAT'S HALF A MILE FROM THERE. 
          I'VE NEVER SEEN IT AND CERTAINLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY WAITING FOR IT. 
          UM, AND THE NEAREST GROCERY STORES ARE AT PARMER, AND THEN OTHER NEXT NEAREST ONE IS DOWN AT 51ST STREET. 
          SO DON'T TELL ME THAT ANY OF THOSE ACTUAL STATEMENTS OF FACT ARE REALLY ACTUALLY TRUE. 
          UM, FURTHER ON, FURTHER DOWN, IT SAYS THAT THIS, IT CLASSIFIES DESAL AS NOT A SCENIC ROADWAY WHEN WE MOVE THERE. 
          IT WAS, BUT IF Y'ALL KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, IT'S NOT GONNA BE FOR MUCH LONGER. 
          UM, THE LAST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS, UM, EXHIBIT C ON PAGE 12. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS SUBJECT PLAT IS, BUT IT'S NOT THE, IT'S NOT THE SUB. 
          IT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS PLAT IS, BUT IT'S NOT THE SUBJECT PLAT. 
          SO THIS NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST CORRECTED. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT MADE IT INTO THE RECORD COPY AND PASTE IS WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD GUESS. 
          BUT WHAT I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HERE IS, AND NOW WE'VE GOT 45 SECONDS, IT'S QUICKLY WALK THROUGH A, UM, A TIME LAPSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PIONEER HILL AREA. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT I'M GONNA CHARACTERIZE AS THE DEFORESTATION OF THIS AREA. 
          UM, SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN FEBRUARY, 2015. 
          I'M GONNA STEP FORWARD ONE YEAR LATER, FEBRUARY, 2016, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THIS CLEAR CUT THAT'S HAPPENED FURTHERMORE, A YEAR LATER YET, YET MORE ANOTHER YEAR AFTER THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN JUST WATCH THIS DEFORESTATION HAPPENING YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          AND THIS IS THE CURRENT LOOK, AND THIS IS THE CURRENT LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE DECRY DEFORESTATION, WHAT HAPPENS IN SOUTH AMERICA, THE DEFORESTATION OF THE AMAZON RAINFOREST. 
          BUT WHEN IT'S HAPPENING IN OUR BACKYARD, NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY AS, AS PART OF MY JOB, MY DAY JOB IS TO HELP PROTECT THE GROUNDWATER NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE STATE OF, OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          AND WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS TO WALNUT CREEK, IT ABSOLUTELY IMPACTS THE WATERSHED THERE. 
          AND, AND, AND 100% A NEGATIVE WAY. 
          AND THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO IMPACT, IT MIGHT NOT FEEL LIKE VERY MUCH, BUT IT ACT IT WILL IMPACT THE WATERWAY. 
          AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FINISH BY SAYING THIS, IT CAN'T BE THE EXTENT OF, UH, OF, OF, OF, OF THE ZONING COUNCIL IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S STR STRATEGY IN, IN TERMS OF SOLVING THE, THE, THE, THE WHAT, WHAT'S CHARACTERIZED AS THE HOUSING PROBLEM. 
          JUST SLAP HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN WHEREVER THERE'S AN OPEN SPACE ON THE MAP. 
          AND, UM, WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THANK MY NEIGHBORS FOR SHOWING UP AND, UM, AND I THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM BRIAN BLAK, FOLLOWED BY TWO TRAN. 
          GOOD TO GIVE YOU ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN WOODCLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD IN 1995 WHEN IT WAS THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD 
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EAST OF DIE 35 THAT WAS IN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE WAS THE COUNTY. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. 
          WE WELCOME PIONEER CROSSING TO THE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH. 
          SO WHEN THEY CAME IN, AND WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO NEW HOUSING IN THE AREA OR NEW HOMES, BUT AS A LOT OF PEOPLE MENTION HERE, THAT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT SPOT FOR A COMPLEX LIKE THIS. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS TRIED TO, WHAT WAS PROPOSED ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO DOWN THE ROAD, ACROSS ON DESSAU ROAD, RIGHT ALONG THE CREEK FOR SOME LOHAN HOUSING. 
          IT JUST WAS NOT A GOOD FIT. 
          MUCH LIKE THIS ONE IS NOW THE, THE BUS STOP THAT'S A HALF A MILE. 
          HAVE YOU EVER BEEN OUT THERE, BY THE WAY? THE, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY NEAT PICTURE HE SHOWED, BUT IT'S ON THE TOP OF THE HILL FOR PETE SYKES. 
          AND SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY A TREACHEROUS AREA TO DO TO TO, TO PLAY SOMETHING. 
          AND AS THERE WAS MENTIONED IN THE TRAFFIC, UM, DESAL IS ALREADY DESIGNATED AS A HIGH CONGESTION, HIGH COLLISION AREA. 
          UH, AND SO WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO ADD TO THAT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS SIMPLY AREN'T, UH, VIABLE. 
          UH, NOBODY HAS SEEN A BICYCLE ON THE BICYCLE LANES ON DESSA ROAD. 
          BELIEVE ME, IT'S KINDA LIKE THE BIKE LANE THAT'S ALONG 180 3 NEAR THE AIRPORT. 
          YOU EVER SEEN A BICYCLE TRY TO RIDE SOMETHING ALONG THAT THE DEBRIS THAT'S ALONG THERE IS SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE. 
          SO I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP HERE. 
          THE EMS, THE GREEN BELT, PIONEER FARMS, OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THIS AREA. 
          UM, IT WAS BE OUR BEST INTEREST IN THIS CITY TO RETAIN THIS PROPERTY IS PROBABLY IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND PART OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE ABOUT AUSTIN, UH, IS WHAT THIS WOULD BE, UH, KEPT AS IT IS. 
          SO WE WOULD REALLY WANNA CONSIDER WHAT HOUSING SOLUTIONS CAN BE FOR THE CITY. 
          THIS IS JUST NOT PART OF THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM TOAN TRAN. 
          THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AND ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THIS ZONING CHANGE. 
          MY NAME IS TUAN AND I HAVE BEEN HERE IN AUSTIN FOR 42 YEARS, AND I HAVE SPENT 40 YEARS RESIDING IN THE WOODCLIFF COMMUNITY. 
          IN FACT, MY FAMILY OWNS THREE HOUSES IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          MY PARENTS STARTED RIGHT THERE 40 YEARS AGO, AND THE CHILDREN GREW UP, THEY GOT MARRIED. 
          SO MY SISTER AND, AND HER FAMILY HAS HAVE A HOME. 
          I GREW UP HAVE A FAMILY AND I HAVE ANOTHER HOME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO THIS COMMUNITY, ALTHOUGH IS SMALL, BUT IT OFFERS A LOT OF AWESOME QUIET CHARM WITH MANY HERITAGE TREES, UH, NEAR THE WALNUT CREEK. 
          THAT IS NOT THE ONLY THING THAT THIS COMMUNITY OFFERS. 
          UH, YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE PEOPLE, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE VERY FRIENDLY AND HELPFUL. 
          DURING THE LAST EYE STORM, MY NEIGHBOR LENT ME A BATTERY BECAUSE MY HOUSE LOST POWER FOR EIGHT DAYS AFTER THE EYE STORM, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS AS HELP OF MY PARENTS, MY AGING PARENTS TO CLEAN UP ALL OF THE BRO, THE BROKEN BRANCHES IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. 
          I POSE THIS ZONE CHANGE BECAUSE THE, THE CHANGE FROM A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE TO A MULTI-FAMILY ZONE WOULD FOREVER CHANGE THE CHARM CHARACTERISTIC OF THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THIS, THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITIES. 
          THIS, THIS MULTI-FAMILY ZONE, BASICALLY THIS WEDGE AMONGST THE MULTIPLE SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITIES. 
          YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ON DESSA ROAD AND THAT IS HAS BEEN VERY NOISY, VERY CROWDED, AND VERY DANGEROUS. 
          I, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE, UH, GO FROM WANDERING LANE, UH, OUT TO DESAL, IT TAKES SEVERAL ROUNDS OF, UM, OF, OF TRAFFIC LIGHT IN ORDER TO TURN. 
          AND WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR SEVERAL SECONDS BEFORE WE DARE TO TURN LEFT OR RIGHT BECAUSE OF SUCH, SUCH HEAVY TRAFFIC AND DANGEROUS TRAFFIC ON DESAL. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEED TO PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSES IN AUSTIN, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE APPROACH IS TO PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSE OWNERSHIP. 
          YOU HAVE HEARD THAT MORE THAN 80% OF THE OWNERS WITHIN A 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION AGAINST THE ZONE CHANGE. 
          AND SOME US ARE HERE TO STATE OUR OPPOSITION TO PROTECT THE HOMES THAT WE HAVE WORKED SO HARD FOR SO MANY YEARS TO BUILD. 
          WE WANT TO RETAIN THE SMALL SINGLE HOME AND PRIVATE, UH, PERSONALITY OF THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE VALUE THAT AUSTIN HAS OFFERED TO OUR CITIZENS. 
          SO PLEASE LISTEN TO OUR REQUEST AND DENIED THIS ZONING CHANGE PROPOSAL. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND I HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. 
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LIKE, ANDREW, CAN YOU PULL UP, SORRY. 
          AREA MOBILITY PROJECTS AREA MOBILITY PROJECTS AREA. 
          THANKS. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          I HAVE FOUR. 
          UM, PRIMARY POINTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE. 
          UH, ONE OF WHICH YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE, THE AREA AS PUBLICLY FUNDED, UM, AREA MOBILITY PROJECTS. 
          AND SO THAT THE FIRST ITEM IS BASICALLY THAT NOT ONLY THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ONGOING OR COME HAVE RECENTLY OCCURRED OR ARE COMING UP, BUT THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT FUNDS INFRASTRUCTURE, OFTENTIMES THIS PROJECT'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WITH THE STREET IMPACT FEES, WHICH WILL GO TOWARDS THE ROADWAY CAPACITY PLAN IMPROVEMENTS OF WHICH THERE'S A NEW, UM, SIGNAL, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT DESAL AND APPLEGATE PRETTY CLOSE BY SOUTH TO THE SUBJECT TRACT. 
          AND THEN SECONDLY, FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, THIS, UH, TRACT IS GONNA BE LIMITED BY IMPERVIOUS COVER TO 60% MAXIMUM PERUS COVER PER THE WATERSHED. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE STATE-OF-THE-ART DETENTION AND WATER QUALITY PONDS, UH, BRINGING THEM TO CURRENT CLO UH, CURRENT CODE, WHEREAS THERE'S NONE EXISTING. 
          WE'RE GONNA PRESERVE AS MANY HERITAGE TREES AND OTHER TREES AS POSSIBLE FOR THE SITE. 
          AND THEN THIRD, I WOULD JUST CORRECT THAT THERE'S A MAXIMUM 330 UNITS, SO NOT 600 HAS THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, WHICH ON A 12 ACRES SITE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A FAIRLY LARGE SITE, IS A PRETTY MODEST AND REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, AGAIN, WHERE I STARTED IS THAT THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD LAND USE AND POLICY CHOICE ZONING CASE FOR THE ZAP AND FOR FOR COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, ON A MAJOR CORRIDOR, UM, ON AN IMAGINED WASHINGTON CORRIDOR. 
          UM, THIS IS THE EXACT TI TYPE OF AREA THAT, UH, A CITY AND A HOUSING CRISIS SHOULD BE PLACING A REASONABLE SIDE SIZE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL JOIN, UH, IN A SUPPORTING STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND ZONING FOR AN EQUITABLE, RESILIENT, SUSTAINABLE, UM, CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, UM, MAYBE FOR STAFF. 
          SO THEY SAY THEY WANT 330 UNITS AND IT'S 11.9 ACRES, WHICH IS 28 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHY YOU DIDN'T RECOMMEND MF THREE. 
          I THINK WITH THE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND THE, THE, UH, SITE, UH, THE WATER SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY HAD RECOMMENDED, UH, THAT WOULD BE TAKING UP A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF THE PARCEL. 
          UH, I, I DON'T THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BRING US KIND OF IN LINE IF THEY WEREN'T MAKING THOSE CHANGES TO THE PARCEL WITH MS. MF FOUR. 
          UM, I THINK THE, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS A FACTOR WAS THE FACT THAT THE, UH, I THINK IT WAS LARGELY THE DR THE, THE FLOOD CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          UM, SINCE THOSE ARE TAKING UP A LARGE PORTION OF THE SITE, UM, HAVING IT AT AT MF FOUR WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO DO WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED EVEN THOUGH IT'S UNDER THE THRESHOLD OF MF FOUR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'M SORRY, THE CHAIR? YEP, GO AHEAD. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION WITH THE APPLICANT OR SHOULD I HOLD? NOPE, GO FOR IT. 
          MR. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, WHAT ENGAGEMENT, UH, YOU'VE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS REGARDING THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER OR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM DIFFERENT COMMENTERS TONIGHT? HAVE YOU HAD ANY INTERACTIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YEAH, WE COULD 
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YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? YEAH, WE FILED THIS LATE LAST YEAR AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY, THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE, THE ORGANIZED, UH, HOMERS ASSOCIATION OR NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION SUCH AS ZILKER OR BOLDEN. 
          SO IN THESE CONTEXTS WHEN YOU'RE OUT IN THE SUBURBS, UM, WE DID NOT HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION TO REACH OUT TO ANYONE. 
          UM, AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANYONE REACH OUT TO US. 
          WE HAD ONE GENTLEMAN CALL ME ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO AND ASKED, UH, ASKING ME FOR, OR BASICALLY STATING THAT HE, UH, THOUGHT WE WERE DOING 600 UNITS. 
          UM, I ASKED HIM WHERE HE LIVED, ASKED, TOLD HIM THAT I'D LIKE TO VISIT WITH HIM ABOUT HIS CONCERNS, TOLD HIM THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND HIM, UM, THE ZONING APPLICATION THAT STATES THAT WE'RE DOING A MAXIMUM 330 UNITS AND HE REFUSED TO IDENTIFY WHERE HE LIVED AND, AND HIS EMAIL ADDRESS. 
          SO, UM, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE BASICALLY SAW WHEN WE RECEIVED THE VALID PETITION THAT SAID NOTHING BUT SF TWO, UM, UH, THAT THEY WOULD AGREE TO, THEN IT JUST BECAME PRETTY SIMPLE POLICY CHOICE. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. 
          IS THERE, IS THERE A WILLINGNESS TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLLOWING THESE PROCEEDINGS? I THINK BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT, MY POSITION STILL REMAINS THE SAME THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE WILL OF THE DICE. 
          UH, BUT I, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S PRETTY STARK TO ME THAT THERE'S A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, SIMPLE CHOICE OF MF FOUR OR, UM, SF TWO BEFORE THIS APP. 
          AND COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT WHETHER, UM, CHAIR IF, UH, UM, IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF ORGANIZATION HERE BECAUSE THEY'VE ALL SHOWED UP AND SEEM TO KNOW EACH OTHER. 
          BRETT CARPENTER, AGAIN, I'LL SPEAK BRIEFLY ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT NEVER REACHED OUT TO ANYONE. 
          HE CLAIMS THAT THERE WAS NO CONTACT PERSON, BUT, UM, SURELY WHEN WE CONTACTED STAFF ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER WE BECAME AWARE OF THIS IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, I KNOW I EMAILED AND HEARD NOTHING BACK, NO CRICKETS. 
          UH, THEY COULD HAVE PUT US IN CONTACT WITH A DEVELOPER THAT HE COULD REACH OUT TO US. 
          SO YES, WE DO HAVE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL ORGANIZATION, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, A COMMUNITY THAT, UH, WORKS TOGETHER AND WE WOULD BE WILLING TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER. 
          UH, IF, IF THEY ARE INTERESTED, I ASSUME IF THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED, UH, AS WE POINTED OUT, THEY JUST WANNA WEDGE UH, MULTI-FAMILY WHEREVER IT FITS IN THE MIDDLE OF A SINGLE FAMILY, THAT'S FINE, BUT UH, WE'D BE WILLING TO MEET. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? DO I HEAR A SECOND? COMMISSIONER KA UH, KASAR. 
          I, SORRY, I, ALTHOUGH , I SAW CAESAR FIRST , ALL THOSE IN PAPER SAY AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED, OKAY. 
          THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED SO NOW WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE DIAS OR ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          I MEAN MEAN TO ME, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR. 
          IT'S A SITE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYBODY BEING DISPLACED. 
          THERE'S NO FLOODPLAIN, THERE'S NO CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE TREE ORDINANCE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COMPLY WITH COMPATIBILITY, SETBACKS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COMPLY WITH TRANSPORTATION. 
          SO A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED ARE GONNA BE DEALT WITH AT THIS SITE PLAN PHASE, NOT AT THE, THE ZONING PHASE. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S TIME BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I'LL ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THAT. 
          UH, SO WHEN THIS COMES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THEY CAN HOPEFULLY PRESENT A MORE UNIFIED GROUP. 
          THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. 
          I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          IT'S AN AS AND P LEVEL FOUR STREET, SO IT'D BE A SHAME IF IT STAYED SUCH A LOW DENSITY. 
          UM, AND ALSO THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS. 
          I WILL ACTUALLY DISAGREE SLIGHTLY BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE WATERSHED, UM, DEPARTMENT'S MAPS FOR THAT AREA, I NOTICED I DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE WATER QUALITY AND LOCALIZED FLOODING IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, IT'S IN A HIGH TO VERY HIGH, UH, WATER QUALITY PROBLEM AREA. 
          IT'S 400 FEET AWAY FROM A DOCUMENTED LOCALIZED FLOODING AREA ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT ZONE MAP. 
          AND THAT PART OF WALNUT CREEK THAT IS THE CLOSEST TO THAT, WHICH IS PRETTY CLOSE, IS A HIGH TO VERY HIGH EROSION 
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ZONE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY, THIS IS A REALLY TOUGH CASE BECAUSE OF THAT AND ALSO BECAUSE TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY ALL THE WAY AROUND, I AM A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR MF FOUR AND I WOULD'VE BEEN MORE COMFORTABLE WITH SOMETHING I'M, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR SOMETHING NOT MF FOUR. 
          SO THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET ME GO TO COMMISSIONER FLOYD, UH, UH, CHAIR. 
          I'M GONNA AGREE WITH YOU AND COMMISSIONER FLORES THAT I AGREE THIS IS WHAT THE CITY'S LOOKING FOR AND IT FITS THE, THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT FOR CORRIDOR SUCH AS SAU. 
          I THINK THEY'VE EXPLAINED WHY THEY WANT MF FOUR, WHICH IS TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO, UH, DEAL WITH THE WATER DETENTION ISSUES AND PROTECT THE WATERSHED. 
          BUT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD FROM STAFF AND THE APPLICANT MAKES ME THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS A CITY TO HELP ALLEVIATE OUR HOUSING CRISIS. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER COSTA MORGAN, UH, I KNOW WE ALREADY A, UH, CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT CAN I STILL ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT? YES. 
          SO WE HEARD FROM STAFF, BUT I AM JUST WANTING TO CON CONFIRM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, TO BUILD YOUR SITE WITH THE D LEVEL OF DENSITY THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, IF YOU WERE AT MF THREE, IF YOUR HEIGHT WAS REDUCED, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO STILL BUILD YOUR PRODUCT? THE PRIMARY RATIONALE, THE PRIMARY REASON WE, UM, SUBMITTED ON AN MF FOUR IS FROM MF THREE. 
          THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 40 FEET AND MF FOUR IT'S 60 FEET. 
          CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT LOUDER? EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, THE PRIMARY REASON WE APPLIED FOR MF FOUR WAS BECAUSE MF THREE, THE CAP HEIGHT IS 40 FEET, MF FOUR, THE CAP HEIGHT IS 60 FEET. 
          AND SO YOU CAN DO FOUR STORIES, UH, PRODUCT, UM, AT A MA AT MORE THAN 40 FEET. 
          SO THE MF FOUR GIVES US THE 60 FEET WITH A SOME FLEXI, WHICH OFFERS THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO SOME FOUR STORY STRUCTURES SOMEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH WE BELIEVE WE'LL NEED. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, THE MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT CAPPED, UM, MAX WE'RE GONNA DO IS 330 UNITS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU'D HAVE THE ACREAGE WITH ALMOST 12 ACRES TO DO THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT YOU WANT WITH MF THREE, BUT I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M STILL NOT CLEAR ON. 
          SO IS THE HEIGHT, IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THE SITE THAT REQUIRES YOU TO BUILD 60 FEET AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING AT 40 FEET? I WOULD SAY THAT YOU CANNOT DO FOUR STORIES AND MAXIMUM 40 FEET. 
          SO THE FOUR STORIES IS NOT GONNA GO MAXIMUM 60 FEET. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED, FROM THE DENSITY STANDPOINT, WE DON'T NEED THE UNITS PER ACRE, BUT WE NEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OUT OF M FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE A QUESTION TO FOLLOW ON. 
          YES. 
          THE, THAT HEIGHT COULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH VARIANCE THOUGH, IS THAT CORRECT? YOU, YOU THINK YOU MAY ONLY NEED ONE AREA TO BE FOUR STORIES AND THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED THROUGH VARIANCE? NO, I, NO, NO. 
          COMPATIBILITY WILL HAVE SETBACKS ADJACENT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, BUT YOU CAN'T DO A, YOU CAN'T GET A VARIANCE OF THE HEIGHT. 
          YOU CAN GO THE OTHER WAY IN OTHER COMPATIBILITY WILL LIMIT THE HEIGHT NEAR THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, SO IT'LL STAIR STEP UP AS YOU GET TOWARDS THE MIDDLE. 
          YEAH, BUT I'M SAYING A VARIANCE TO THE MF THREE HEIGHT RESTRICTION I THINK, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN GO THAT DIRECTION. 
          I THINK YOU CAN GO THE OTHER DIRECTION. 
          YOU CAN DO MF FIVE AND LIMIT THE HEIGHT, BUT YOU CAN'T GO MF THREE AND GET A VARIANCE TO GO HIGHER. 
          GET A VARIANCE FOR THE FOURTH. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL WHILE I, WHILE I'VE GOT THE STAGE HERE, I WOULD, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. 
          UM, I, I DO AGREE THAT, THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS A CORRIDOR, IT MAKES SENSE FOR, FOR DENSITY. 
          I AM DISAPPOINTED IN THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE CONSIDER MEETING AND TALKING. 
          I HEARD A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES, UM, MENTIONED FOR, UM, FACTORS THAT COULD BE BUILT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD TAKE INTO SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE NEIGHBOR'S CONSIDERATIONS COULD BE BUILT INTO SITE PLAN AND UM, MAYBE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ASSUAGED OR MINIMIZED WITH A LITTLE MORE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE PARTIES. 
          SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE, THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS AND TRY TO CONSIDER THEM AND SITE, SITE PLAN. 
          YEAH, I, I DON'T DISAGREE. 
          I THINK THEY COULD GO TO COUNCIL WITH, LOOK AT THE SETBACKS BETWEEN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, LOOK AT THE HEIGHT ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY AND SEE IF THEY COULDN'T COME BACK WITH SOME RESTRICTIONS. 
          LIMITING THOSE THINGS I THINK COME TO A, A MUCH BETTER CASE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          BUT I THINK MF FOUR IS APPROPRIATE TO GIVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY. 
          CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TREES AND A LOT OF ISSUES ON THIS SITE TO KIND OF SPREAD THINGS OUT AND GO HIGHER AS OPPOSED TO GOING, UM, SPREAD 
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OUT AND GOING TO MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          BUT I DO AGREE THAT HOW THEY DEAL WITH THE AREAS ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH CLOSELY. 
          I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT BETWEEN NOW AND COUNSEL. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? UH, THANK YOU. 
          I I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, READING THE WRITTEN COMMENTS WE RECEIVED AND, AND HEARING A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS SPEAK TODAY, UH, IT DOES SEEM LIKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT THEY SEE WITH THE SITE AND THE PROJECT IS TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS, CONFLICTS ON DESSAU ROAD, UH, TRAFFIC. 
          AND SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SITE PLAN ISSUE, FUNDAMENTALLY NOT ZONING. 
          AND, AND I FEEL THAT IN THIS CASE, I, I, I DO AGREE THAT MF FOUR IS, UH, NOT FUNDAMENTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          IT IS A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT THE APPLICANT DOES, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD, UH, PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND ACCESS TO THE SITE. 
          UM, IT IS A TRICKY ROAD. 
          I, I HAVE DRIVEN ON DSL ROAD. 
          I HAVE ACTUALLY RIDDEN MY BIKE ON THIS STRETCH OF DESS R ROAD, UH, SEVERAL TIMES, AND I DON'T LIKE TO DO IT. 
          UH, I'LL DO IT IF I HAVE TO, BUT I DON'T LIKE TO. 
          IT'S SCARY. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT IN MIND IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD TO THAT SITE PLAN STAGE THAT, UM, YOU CAN BE CREATIVE AND, AND ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS WITH DESIGN ELEMENTS OR, UH, MITIGATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO THROW, GO AHEAD MY 2 CENTS IN AS WELL. 
          UM, I, I THINK I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE POINTS THAT THE BIG ISSUES HERE HAVE TO DO WITH SITE PLANNING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S REALLY WONDERFUL COMMUNITY THERE. 
          FROM WHAT EVERYTHING IS SAID. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT A CASE HAS BEEN MADE THAT, THAT WILL BE DESTROYED OR REALLY DAMAGED IRREPARABLY WITH THIS CHANGE IN ZONING. 
          THERE ARE CERTAINLY SOME CONCERNS, BUT, UM, THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING WILL DESTROY THIS. 
          UM, AGAIN, I GET THAT PEOPLE ARE DIS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT BEING CLOSE, BUT THAT'S A SITE PLANNING THING. 
          UM, AND THERE IS SPACE TO HAVE BIGGER BUFFERS. 
          UM, AGAIN, ALSO WITH WATER ISSUES, UH, AND WATERSHED ISSUES. 
          LIKE THAT'S WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, HIGH QUALITY RETENTION POND IS FOR, AGAIN, ALSO A SITE PLANNING THING. 
          UM, SO OVERALL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY GIVEN OUR HOUSING CRISIS, UH, TO DENY THIS, I THINK WOULD, WOULD BE A MISTAKE. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE ISSUES ARE NOT A ZONING ISSUE PRIMARILY AND ARE JUST PRESSING NEED FOR HOUSING. 
          AND REALLY, RENTAL HOUSING IS A BIG THING. 
          ALSO, THERE DOES SEEM TO BE A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT LIKE MARKET RATE HOUSING WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON AFFORDABILITY. 
          UM, AND THAT IS, IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED RESEARCH SHOWS VERY MUCH THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. 
          THAT MARKET HOUSING, EVEN IF IT IS LUXURY MORE EXPENSIVE, THAT DOES TAKE PRESSURE ON THE MARKET. 
          SO PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD THOSE ARE NOW, THERE'S 300 FEWER OF THEM COMPETING WITH SORT OF L YOU KNOW, LESS EXPENSIVE HOUSING. 
          SO I DID WANT TO SET THAT IT'S WELL ESTABLISHED THAT MARKET RATE HOUSING, EVEN IF IT'S EXPENSIVE, DOES, UH, HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON AFFORDABILITY, EVEN FOR, YOU KNOW, LOWER INCOME PEOPLE. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, THOSE ARE MY, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER COSTA, I MOVED TO APPROVE STOP'S RECOMMENDATION FOR SF FOUR ZONING OR MF FOUR ZONING. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          . 
          M F WITH AN F GO HERE IN A SECOND. 
          SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ALEJANDRA. 
          UH, I NEED DISCUSSION. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO 330 BECAUSE THAT SF UM, MF FOUR  MF FOUR ZONING WOULD ALLOW OVER 600 UNITS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THERE'S BEEN A COMMITMENT TO DO 330. 
          SO I THINK WE SHOULD ADD A UNIT CAP OF 330 UNITS. 
          IS THAT AN ISSUE WITH STAFF? WE CAN ASK, RIGHT? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE ASKING LEGAL, BUT IT'S ILLEGAL. 
           NOT APPROPRIATE LEGAL? NO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT AN AMENDMENT? IS THAT OKAY WITH I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, FORMALLY LET'S VOTE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A PARLIAMENTARIAN. 
          I'M GONNA HAVE TO PLAY PARLIAMENTARIAN CHAIR. 
          COMMISSION LEADS ON ANDREW VERA. 
          IF IT'S A UNANIMOUS, UH, YOU CAN JUST ADOPT THE AMENDMENT AND, UM, OKAY. 
          I, IF THERE'S NO ISSUE, ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE AMENDMENT? OH, YOU SHOULD TAKE A VOTE. 
          YOU SHOULD. 
          THERE'S NO, OH, YEAH. 
          WELL, OKAY. 
          YEAH, I'LL, I'LL, LET'S DO IT FORMALLY. 
          YEAH, LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THE, ON THE, THIS. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS MF FOUR ZONING WITH A 330 UNIT CAP. 
          NO, WE'RE JUST VOTING ON THE 330 UNIT CAP TO AMEND THE MOTION. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THE MOTION. 
          ON THE MAIN MOTION. 
          SO WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN THE MOTION. 
          YES, EXACTLY. 
          I WAS 
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OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DO JUST APPROVE WITHOUT THE CAP TWO. 
          SO IF WE, IF WE DON'T SUPPORT THE 330, THEN WE GO TO THE BASE MAIN, WE GO TO THE MAIN VOTE E EITHER WAY, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST VOTING ON LIMITING IT. 
          WHATEVER WE ZONE IT TO, WE'RE LIMITING TO THE 330 UNITS. 
          RIGHT? AND SO, SO IF THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT, THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF LIMITING THE DEVELOPMENT TO 330 UNITS RAISE THEIR HAND. 
          SO THAT IS COMMISSIONER 6, 1, 2, 3, 4. 
          OH, I'LL RAISE MY HAND. 
          1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
          SO THE MOTION DIES. 
          DO YOU SEE COMMISSIONER? YEAH. 
          1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
          SO IT'D BE FIVE, FOUR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED. 
          1, 2, 3. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED TO THE CAPTAIN TO THE 330 COUNT TO CAPTAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FIVE IN SUPPORT. 
          FOUR OPPOSED. 
          SO THAT MOTION DIES. 
          SO WE NOW TAKE A VOTE ON THE BASE MOTION OF SUPPORTING MF FOUR WITH NO CAP. 
          SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MF FOUR WITH NO CAP. 
          UH, THAT IS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
          THAT IS SIX IN SUPPORT. 
          ALL IS OPPOSED. 
          TWO OPPOSED. 
          AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, THOMPSON, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND GO UP EITHER WAY. 
          I'M SORRY, I'M SCRAMBLING. 
          TAKE NOTES. 
          I VOTED IN FAVOR. 
          OKAY, SO SEVEN IN FAVOR. 
          TWO. 
          OPPOSE. 
          SO THE MOTION PASSES 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. 
          SUPPORT. 
          TWO OPPOSED. 
          TWO, THREE. 
          YOU TELL ME WHO WAS OPPOSED, PLEASE. 
          YES. 
          UH, ALL IT WAS ALL SEVEN MEMBERS SUPPORTING AND COMMISSIONERS KIELBASA AND GREENBERG OPPOSED? EVERYBODY ELSE SUPPORT? SO THE MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. 
          AND AGAIN, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          CAUSE OURS IS A RECOMMENDATION GOING TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES THE ACTUAL VOTE. 
          SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO MEET AND SEE WHAT Y'ALL CAN WORK AT BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          VEGETATIVE BUFFERS, YES, NEAR THE SINGLE FAMILY. 
          I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD OPPORTUNITY IN THERE. 
          OKAY, GOING 
          [3. Rezoning: C14-2022-0110 - 7605 Albert Road; District 5]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          IT IS ITEM C 1420 DASH 22 OR 2022 DASH 1 10 76 0 5 ALBERT ROAD DISTRICT FIVE. 
          UM, THE MOTION OR THE, THE, UM, RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS TO GO FROM DR TO SF SIX AND WE HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS NANCY ESTRADA WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          THIS IS ITEM THREE ON YOUR AGENDA CASE C 14, 20 22, 1 10. 
          THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 76 0 5 ALBERT ROAD. 
          IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED DR. 
          AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SF SIX. 
          AND JUST TO NOTE SIGNATURES OF ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED OPPOSING OR RE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN SF TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE STANDARD LOT. 
          THE PETITION INCLUDES 20 POINT 12% OF ELIGIBLE SIGNATURES, SO IT'S MEETING THE 20% THRESHOLD FOR A VALID PETITION. 
          THE SUBJECT REZONING AREA IS 3.1 ACRES LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF ALBERT ROAD IN SHERWOOD ROAD. 
          THIS UNPLATTED TRACK CONTAINS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND ITS ZONE DEVELOPMENT RESERVE. 
          DR. 
          DISTRICT ALBERT ROAD TURNS INTO SHER SHERWOOD ROAD, WHICH CONTINUES EAST AND IS A THROUGH STREET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, RESIDENCES ZONED DR ON LARGE TRACKS TO THE NORTH AND WEST THAT HAVE FRONTAGE ON ALBERT ROAD. 
          A SINGLE FAMILY SF TWO RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST AND A CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO THE SOUTH, WHICH TAKES ITS PRIMARY ACCESS TO DITMAR ROAD, WHICH IS FURTHER SOUTH. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THE TOWNHOUSE AND CONDOMINIUM RESIDENCE SF SIX DISTRICT ZONING IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. 
          THE SF SIX DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR MODERATE DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX, TWO, FAMILY TOWNHOUSE, AND CONDOMINIUM USE. 
          THIS DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE IN SELECT AREAS OR SF SIX CAN SERVE AS A TRANSITION AREA TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. 
          SINCE THE SUBJECT TRACT HAS FRONTAGE ON TWO STREETS, ALBERT ROAD AND SHERWOOD LANE, THERE REMAINS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCESS TO BE OBTAINED FROM BOTH STREETS UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR FOR STAFF SUPPORT OF THE REZONING. 
          THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT TOWNHOUSE AND CONDOMINIUM RESIDENCE SF SIX DISTRICT ZONING. 
          I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          NOW HERE FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          UH, MS. HASSI, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES, APOLOGIES. 
          SIX MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU ANDREW. 
          GOOD EVENING COM. 
          UH, COMMISSIONERS VICTORIA HASSI WITH THROWER DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE LANDOWNER. 
          UH, THE SUBJECT TRACK IS OUTLINED IN BLUE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN. 
          IT IS ABOUT 
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0.7 MILES FROM WILLIAM CANNON, WHICH IS AN IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR. 
          AND IT'S ABOUT 0.8 MILES FROM THE NEAREST BUS STOP. 
          UH, AND IT'S WITHIN A 1.3 MILE RADIUS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER THAT YOU SEE AT THE CORNER OF, UH, MANCHA AND STASSY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SUBJECT SITE IS, UH, JUST A TAD BIT OVER THREE ACRES. 
          IT'S GOT A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE TODAY. 
          UH, AS YOU HEARD STAFF SAY IT HAS ACCESS OR FRONTAGE ON TWO DIFFERENT TWO SEPARATE ROADWAYS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE PROPERTY HAS DEVELOPMENT RESERVE TODAY, WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE A TEMPORARY ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS USUALLY GIVEN TO PROPERTIES, UH, RIGHT AFTER THEY'RE ANNEXED AND BEFORE IT'S DETERMINED WHAT THEIR PERMANENT ZONING SHOULD BE. 
          UM, IT IS LIKELY THAT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED ALONG WITH MANY OF THE OTHERS THAT YOU SEE THAT ARE STILL DR. 
          TODAY. 
          UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR SF SIX, WHICH IS STILL WITHIN THE UMBRELLA OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          UH, IT IS ON THE HIGHEST SCALE OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS, AND IT IS ALSO, UM, COMPATIBLE WITH, UH, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SHERWOOD. 
          UH, THE PROPERTY THAT, THAT YOU SEE THAT HAS THE BASE DISTRICT ZONING OF SF SIX, AND IT'S ALSO COMPAT COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER SINGLE FAMILY USES, WHETHER THAT'S SF TWO, DR. 
          SF THREE, SF FOUR, SF FIVE, ALL OF THOSE ARE COMPATIBLE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS IS JUST PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD LOOK AT. 
          BUT ALL THE PROPERTIES, THIS IS MOST OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAT YOU SEE, AND ALL OF THE YELLOW POLYGONS ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE SF SIX ZONING TODAY. 
          UM, AND WE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BLUE DOT TOWARDS THE BOTTOM IS THE SUBJECT TRACT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, SF SIX HAS VARIOUS, UH, BENEFITS INCLUDING PROVIDING A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES. 
          IT ALSO MAINTAINS IT HAS THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN SINGLE FAMILY CHARACTER. 
          AS YOU HEARD STAFF SAY, IT OFFERS TRADITIONAL, STANDALONE, SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. 
          THEY CAN BE DUPLEX UNITS, THEY CAN BE, UM, TWO FAMILY, WHICH IS, IN OTHER WORDS, A HOUSE AND AN ADU TYPE CONFIGURATION. 
          AND THEY CAN ALSO BE A TOWNHOUSE, UM, CONFIGURATION. 
          THE, ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT SF SIX IS IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A SUBDIVISION PROCESS. 
          SO IF THIS PROPERTY WERE TO STAY ZONED SF TWO, IT COULD BE CARVED UP INTO SEVERAL SMALL LOTS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A SUBDIVISION PROCESS. 
          IT'S COSTLY. 
          IT'S, IT'S A LOT MORE TIME INVOLVED. 
          UM, AND SO ALL OF THAT ENDS ENDS UP GETTING PASSED ON TO THE END USER, THE BUYER IN THE END. 
          UM, BUT THE OTHER HALF OF THIS IS THAT SF SIX. 
          WHILE IT DOESN'T REQUIRE SUBDIVISION, IT DOES REQUIRE SITE PLAN REVIEW. 
          AND THAT SITE PLAN REVIEW IS A PRETTY, UM, IT INTENSE REVIEW BY CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF. 
          IT HAS GREATER TREE PROTECTIONS. 
          IT PROVIDES, UH, A GREATER, A BETTER SITE LAYOUT BECAUSE IT CAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY INTERNAL SETBACKS LIKE YOU WOULD NORMALLY HAVE IF THIS PROPERTY WERE TO BE SUBDIVIDED INTO SEVERAL SF TWO OR SF THREE LOTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THIS IS A TABLE THAT SHOWS THE MATHEMATICAL YIELD OF UNITS THROUGH THE EYES OF A FEW OF THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          UM, DR AS YOU CAN SEE IS INTENDED FOR AT LEAST 10 ACRES. 
          THIS SITE DOESN'T MEET, NO LONGER MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT. 
          SF TWO ACHIEVES 23 LOTS, UM, AND 23 DWELLING UNITS. 
          BUT THERE'S A DIRECT IMPACT, UM, UNDER THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO TO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS AREA. 
          UM, THAT WILL BE A DIRECT IMPACT THAT PEOPLE WILL FEEL THROUGH PROPERTY TAX INCREASES. 
          UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE PUT IN PLACE, THAT WOULD BE ROADWAYS REQUIRED, UM, ALL OF THAT WOULD BE CITY MAINTAINED. 
          AND THE SAME GOES FOR, UH, IF THIS PROPERTY WERE REZONED TO SF THREE AND DEVELOPED UNDER THAT SCENARIO, YOU WOULD GET 23 LOTS AND 46 DWELLING UNITS THAT MEANING A HOUSE AND AN ADU ON EACH LOT. 
          AGAIN, THERE'S A DIRECT IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY TAXES OF EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE ON THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR VERSUS SF SIX WOULD ALLOW THIS PROPERTY TO STAY IN A SINGLE LOT CONFIGURATION, BUT WOULD ALLOW FOR UP TO 37 DWELLING UNITS. 
          THOSE DWELLING UNITS WOULD BE CONSIDERED CONDOS AND WOULD NOT BE COMPARABLE IN TERMS OF TAX ASSESSMENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS AREA. 
          FURTHER, ANY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED, UM, TO GO ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE WOULD BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED AND NOT ON THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR. 
          UM, SO SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GREATER NUMBER OF UNITS ALLOWS FOR GREATER COST SHARING WHEN YOU DEVELOP A SITE WHICH RESULTS IN A LOWER PRICE, UM, THAT IS OFFERED TO THE BUYER. 
          IN THE END, UM, SINGLE FAMILY IS, IS COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY, EVEN IF IT'S A TOWNHOUSE THAT'S NEXT TO A SINGLE 
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FAMILY HOUSE. 
          BUT I WILL POINT OUT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS AN SF SIX SITE AND DEVELOPMENT WITH SF SIX WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A 25 FOOT, AT LEAST A 25 FOOT COMPATIBILITY SETBACK AGAINST ANY PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED SF THREE, SF TWO OR IS USED IN THOSE MANNERS. 
          SO WE'RE AVAILABLE TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM RUTH LAUER. 
          MS. LAUER, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO, MY NAME'S RUTH LAUER AND I'M THE SECRETARY OF THE MATTHEWS LANE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          I'M THE PRIMARY SPEAKER IN PLACE OF KAREN FERNANDEZ, WHO IS, UH, ON A FAMILY EMERGENCY. 
          I WANTED TO WELCOME THE NEW MEMBERS TO THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, INCLUDING COMMISSIONER FLORES, DISTRICT FIVE. 
          YAY. 
          UM, AND THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY. 
          I'M A VOLUNTEER AS WELL, SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS TO THIS CASE. 
          MARK HENSON, THE OWNER IS A NEIGHBOR AND I'VE TALKED TO HIM MANY TIMES. 
          THE CAR FAMILY ARE ONE OF THE FEW BUILDERS WHO IS THE GONNA DO THE BUILDING WE'VE COME ACROSS THAT DELIVER HOMES INSTEAD OF JUST FLIPPING THE LAND. 
          FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MARK WANTS TO CASH OUT. 
          I DON'T BLAME HIM. 
          AUSTIN'S CHANGED AND PORTUGAL IS A WONDERFUL PLACE. 
          GRANTING SF SIX ZONING WILL INCREASE THE VALUE OF HIS LAND AND GIVE HIM MORE MONEY, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR NEIGHBORS OR AUSTIN. 
          IMAGINE AUSTIN, IT HAS COSTS FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. 
          COUPLE OF POINTS ON THE STAFF REPORT. 
          CAN YOU BRING UP SLIDE? YEAH, YOU DID. 
          THANK YOU ANDREW. 
          UM, THE NI REHAB MEDICAL FACILITY AND SOUTH STONE ONLY ACCESS. 
          THEIR ONLY ACCESS IS THROUGH DITMAR ROAD. 
          THEY DON'T COME THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SF SIX AT THE SOUTH STONE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY MENTIONED IS MISLEADING. 
          IT'S EMERGENCY VEHICLES ONLY, AND THE MAP IS A LITTLE MISLEADING. 
          IT SHOWS THE ROAD GOING THROUGH, BUT ALBERT ROAD STOPS AT SHERWOOD. 
          NOW. 
          THE HEALTH FACILITY IS NOT WITHIN HALF A MILE UNLESS YOU'RE A CROW. 
          UM, OTHERWISE YOU HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY DOWN, WIND AND AROUND AND BACK UP THE ROAD TO THE NEAR REHAB. 
          AND I DISPUTE THAT THE PAVEMENT'S 20 FEET WIDE. 
          IT DOESN'T, I THINK ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS MEASURED IT AND IT WAS 19, BUT YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE 20 SOMEWHERE. 
          UM, FINALLY, THE SF SIX ZONING IS APPROPRIATE IN SELECT AREAS WHERE IT CAN SERVE AS A TRANSITION TO SF RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE THAT. 
          THE SF SIX ZONING WITH THE SOUTH STONE DEVELOPMENT IS A TRANSITION BETWEEN MEDICAL AND SINGLE FAMILY. 
          OTHERWISE THIS WOULD BE A TRANSITION BETWEEN MOBILE HOME AND SF TWO. 
          THAT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          SO, UM, THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICATION ALSO HAS TO BE CONSIDERED WITH MANY OTHER APPLICATIONS ON ALBERT ROAD. 
          THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE, UH, THREE ACRE LOTS READY FOR DEVELOPMENT. 
          EACH OF THEM WANT 37 UNITS. 
          THERE'S SEVEN UNITS APPROVED AT 74 15 ALBERT ROAD. 
          UH, THERE'S MORE EMPTY LAND AROUND THERE. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NARROW RURAL ROAD ADDING 120 UNITS MINIMUM. 
          AND THAT'S NOT JUST THIS APPLICATION. 
          I'M TRYING TO TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK AT THIS STREET. 
          UM, NARROW RURAL ROAD. 
          NO SIDEWALKS, NO CURBS, NO DRAINAGE. 
          IT'S MORE THAN A HALF A MILE FROM A BUS STOP. 
          IT'S A FURTHER TO AMENITIES. 
          NO AREA IN AUSTIN CAN HANDLE THAT MUCH MA DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A MAJOR INVESTMENT BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IN THE ROADS, IN THE UTILITIES. 
          THE DECISION YOU MAKE ON THIS CASE IS A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER APPLICATIONS. 
          PLEASE CONSIDER VERY CAREFULLY AS THE PETITION STATES, THERE IS A REASONABLE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT COULD BE BUILT HERE WITHOUT ALL THESE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WE'VE TRIED TO MEET WITH ROWER DESIGN AND THEY'VE SAID, WELL, THERE'S NO INFORMATION AND WE'RE JUST DOING A REZONING. 
          AND WE CALL 'EM BACK AND SAY, IS THERE ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THE SITE PLAN? WHAT YOU KNOW, WHO, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S NOTHING NEW TO SHARE. 
          SO MY REQUEST HERE IS EITHER THAT YOU DENY THE APPLICATION OR POSTPONE IT TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MORE TIME TO TALK WITH THE OWNER AND THROWER DESIGN. 
          UM, WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THESE ISSUES TOGETHER AND BUILD A STRONGER AUSTIN AS A COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. JEFF DICKERSON, FOLLOWED BY EUGENE SUTTON. 
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BEFORE I BEGIN SPEAKING, I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO BE AWARE THAT I AM HEARING IMPAIRED TOTALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT DEAF OR NOT FOR BION OF EARS. 
          SO I WEAR COCHLEAR IMPLANTS. 
          SO IF YOU ASK ME QUESTIONS, MAKE COMMENTS, I NEED TO BE LOOKING AT YOU. 
          PAGE SLIDE TWO. 
          EVENING COMMISSIONER. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO RISE IN OPPOSITION TO F SF SITS AND 37 UNITS. 
          AS YOU CAN TELL BY THE SLIDE HERE, YOU CAN GET A MORE CLOSE END FEEL OF WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. 
          IT HAS INSUFFICIENT TRAFFIC AND INSUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE REPORT SUPPORT THAT 90 DEGREE CURVE. 
          MY DAUGHTER AND I WENT OUT ONE WEEKEND TO MEASURE IT. 
          IT'S 19 FEET AT NUMBER ONE. 
          IT'S 30 FEET AT NUMBER TWO, AND IT'S 20 FEET. 
          AT NUMBER THREE. 
          THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF STATE HIGHWAY AND TRANSPORTATION RECOMMEND 26 FEET FOR PEDESTRIANS AND OR BICYCLES AND CARS. 
          YOU CAN TELL ALL IT TAKES IS TWO CARS GOING SIDE BY SIDE AND A PARTY HOUSE WITH THE PARTY CARS. 
          THIS STREET IS COMPLETELY BLOCKED OFF. 
          ALBERT ROAD AND SHERWOOD ROAD ARE CLASSIFIED AS LOW RESIDENTIAL COLLECTIVE STREETS. 
          THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO HANDLE IDENTITY DEVELOPMENTS AS FAR AS GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WELL, THEY MAY GO PARTWAY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY DO NOT GO TO FEEDER STREETS. 
          THEY STAY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR WATER DRAINAGE OR WATER PRESSURE SYSTEMS IN THIS AREA. 
          I MIGHT WANNA POINT OUT THAT IF YOU WERE TO START AT THE CORNER AND GO TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT PROPERTY DROPS 10 FEET, 10 DEGREES. 
          SO WE HAVE A LOT OF FLUVIAL FLOW ON THAT PROPERTY. 
          IF WE WERE TO GO ONE PROPERTY OVER HALFWAY, THEY DROP ANOTHER 10 FEET. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT A 20 DEGREE DROP OF LAND OF WATER FLOWING THROUGH THERE. 
          ONE PERSON MENTIONED, AND I MIGHT POINT OUT, OH, WE CAN PUT A RETENTION TANK THERE. 
          THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS FILLED WITH RETENTION TANKS. 
          I MIGHT ALSO POINT OUT EVERY TIME YOU PUT A RETENTION TANK THERE, YOU TAKE AWAY FROM HOUSING. 
          AND THAT'S JUST POOR DEVELOPMENT PLANNING. 
          WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO USE RETENTION THINGS. 
          PROPER DEVELOPMENT, PROPER BUILDING AND ENVIRONMENT WILL TAKE CARE OF THESE THINGS. 
          ANOTHER THING TO POINT OUT, THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE COMPONENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          IT ONLY FULFILLS TWO YES CATEGORIES FOR IMAGINE AUSTIN DECISION GUIDELINES. 
          MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE ARE NO CAPITAL FUNDS THAT FITS THIS AREA FOR THIS YEAR. 
          STAFFERS PROPOSED FEAS FEASIBILITY STUDIES. 
          THERE'S NO TIME WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE, THERE'S NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET FITS THIS AREA. 
          OKAY, YOUR TIME, THIS, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          YES, YOU'RE FINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          WHEN I'LL HEAR FROM MR. EUGENE SUTTON, I COULDN'T. 
          MY NAME IS EUGENE SUTTON. 
          I'M FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE MATTHEWS LANE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION AND A CURRENT OUTREACH MEMBER. 
          I LIVE JUST BEYOND THE 200 FEET FOR VALID PETITION. 
          I LIVE ON DAMON. 
          THE, UM, AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS UNDERGONE MULTIPLE REZONINGS RANGING FROM SF TO THE CURRENT SF SIX DESIGNS, OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT IN LIGHT OF NARROW 20 FOOT ROADWAYS, BARAGE DRAINAGE, AND SCORCHED EARTH POLICIES. 
          SOUTH STONE IS AN SF SIX DESIGNATION 
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FOR 231 CONDO UNIT ON 42 ACRES TO THE SOUTH OF 76 0 5. 
          ALBERT A BORDER SHERWOOD THAT HAS AN EMERGENCY USE ONLY ENTRANCE TO THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT CONTROLS ACCESS TO DIPMAR ONLY ALSO CONTROLS DENSITY AND AGE RESTRICTIONS OF THE NORTHERN 10.11 ACRE AREA. 
          IN THE BUILDING PROCESS OF SOUTH STONE. 
          ALL TREES EXCEPT ONE HERITAGE OAK, WERE REMOVED FROM THIS 10 AC 10 PLUS ACRE AREA. 
          WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THE PICTURES BEING DRAWN UP AND THE, UM, PICTURES INDICATE THAT ONE LO LAWN, LONE OAK TREE AND IT AS THEY REMOVED EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          76 0 5 IS ALSO BORDERED BY TREES. 
          AND APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME PICTURES THAT I TOOK OF, UM, THIS AREA AND THIS IS LOOKING AT THAT PROPERTY. 
          CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE OR THE NEXT PICTURE? THIS IS A PICTURE OF SOUTH STONE, UH, AND ALL THE TREES. 
          AND YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE THE ONE OAK TREE. 
          THE IT BORDERS, THE, THE NEURO REHAB FACILITY. 
          AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS MR. HENSON'S PROPERTY. 
          NEXT SLIDE AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT THE CORNER COMING UP AND AGAIN, YOU SEE THE TREES. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY HERITAGE TREES IN THE AREA, BUT THERE'S A MIXTURE OF LIVE OAKS STILL WITH, WITH SOME OAK WILT AND THERE ARE SOME RED OAKS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THIS IS THE CORNER. 
          YOU SEE A RED BUD BLOOMING THERE. 
          WHILE I WAS TAKING THESE PICTURES, I COULD HEAR AN OWL HOOTING. 
          IT WAS EARLY IN THE MORNING. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND AGAIN, THE DENSITY IS, IS AN REALLY A NICE BUFFER. 
          THIS EXISTED, UH, ON SHERWOOD, ON SOUTH STONE'S PROPERTY AS WELL BEFORE THEY CUT EVERYTHING DOWN. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS IS THE ENTRANCE INTO MR. HENSON'S PROPERTY. 
          HE BUILT THIS LITTLE ARCHWAY AND, UH, PUT IN THE RED BUDS BACK WHEN HE WAS THINKING ABOUT LIVING THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND AGAIN, TOWARDS THE, UH, NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          IT'S INTERESTING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. 
          AND I'VE INCLUDED THESE SLIDES BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE DEVELOPING PROPERTY ON ALBERT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MR. HENSON'S PROPERTY. 
          AS A GENTLEMAN WHO'S RUNNING A SALVAGE YARD. 
          AND THIS IS, HE, HE, UH, HAS BEGUN JUST STORING LOTS OF STUFF. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND WE HAVE A, A COLLECTION OF REFRIGERATORS AND APPLIANCES AND OTHER ITEMS. FOR MANY YEARS I'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN TRYING TO GET COCO COMPLIANCE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS WITH VERY LITTLE LUCK. 
          UH, HE'S, UH, DUMPED A LOT OF MATERIALS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING ON MR. HENSON'S PROPERTY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          YOU CAN WRAP UP AND AGAIN, SOME MORE PICTURES OF, UH, MR. THE INDIVIDUAL'S STORAGE FACILITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THAT'S HIS TRUCK LOADED WITH EVERYTHING. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, TYPICALLY WHAT YOU WILL SEE. 
          UH, HE'S IN A, HE IS AWARE AND I'VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT AND HE WOULD LIKE PERSONALLY TO SELL HIS PROPERTY, THE HIGHEST BIDDER AT THE MOMENT. 
          UH, THANK YOU STEVE. 
          YOU'RE THREE MINUTES RALPH. 
          HE CAN WRAP UP REAL QUICK. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU WILL HEAR FROM CARMEN. 
          WE MEYER. 
          HI. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          CARMEN, WE MEYER RESIDENT OF ALBERT ROAD. 
          UH, I'M REALLY HERE TO JUST REITERATE ALL THE POINTS THAT MY OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE RAISED. 
          UM, WE, FIRST OF ALL, WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT MORE DENSITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS IS A RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE CITY GREW UP AROUND. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF BIG LOTS. 
          WE WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO STAY SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THREE ACRE LOTS. 
          WE KNOW THAT'S NOT REASONABLE AND NOBODY'S GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN. 
          GIVEN THE HOUSING CRISIS. 
          WE MEET WITH DEVELOPERS ALL THE TIME WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BUYING LOTS AND WHO HAVE PURCHASED SOME OF THE OTHER OPEN LOTS AROUND. 
          UH, AND THE PROPOSAL THAT WE ALWAYS GIVE THEM IS, WE'LL SUPPORT YOU WITH 10 TO 12 HOMES. 
          THIS IS A RURAL AREA. 
          THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS. 
          YOU CAN BARELY FIT TWO CARS ON THE STREET. 
          IT'S DANGEROUS TO HAVE ONE CAR DRIVE BY YOU IF YOU'RE WALKING WITH A STROLLER OR YOUR, OR YOUR DOG. 
          THERE'S A DRAINAGE DITCH ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD. 
          SO IF A CAR DOES COME BY, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYWHERE TO DODGE IT. 
          IF YOU'RE WALKING AGAIN, THERE'S FLOODING ISSUES. 
          THE DRAINAGE DITCHES WERE PUT THERE TO ALLEVIATE THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP ALL THAT MUCH. 
          SO AGAIN, WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT MORE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE MODEST. 
          10 TO 12 HOMES ON LOTS OF THIS SIZE. 
          WHETHER THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY, WHETHER THEY'RE DUPLEXES, WHETHER THEY'RE TOWN HOMES. 
          I THINK WE'RE OPEN TO WHATEVER WORKS ON THE SITE. 
          WE JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE CAN SUPPORT THE VERY DENSE 
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DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, NOT ONLY ON THIS SITE, BUT ON MULTIPLE OTHER SITES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UP FOR SALE. 
          AND THAT WILL SOON BE FOR SALE AS A LOT OF THE OLDER RESIDENTS RETIRE AND START CASHING OUT AND MOVING TO PORTUGAL. 
          GOOD FOR THEM. 
          UM, FINALLY, THE AUSTIN HOUSING HOUSING BLUEPRINT CALLS FOR 75% OF NEW HOUSING TO BE LOCATED WITHIN HALF A MILE OF IMAGINE AUSTIN CENTERS AND CORRIDORS. 
          THE NEAREST ONE HERE IS A MILE AWAY WALKING THE HOUSING BLUEPRINT CALLS FOR 90% OF NEWLY BILLED AFFORD, NEWLY BUILT AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE WITHIN 0.7 MILES OF TRANSIT. 
          THIS IS MORE THAN 0.7 MILES AWAY FROM TRANSIT. 
          SO IT DOESN'T FIT ALL THE QUALITIES THAT AUSTIN ITSELF HAS LAID OUT FOR THIS TYPE OF DENSE DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO AGAIN, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A SITE PLAN, WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON SOMETHING MORE MODEST AND THEN COME AND WITH LOCK ARMS TO CITY COUNCIL AND PROPOSE SOMETHING WE CAN ALL GET BEHIND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL ALL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. 
          VICTORIA HASI AGAIN WITH FURTHER DESIGN. 
          UM, SO I JUST, I DO WANNA CLARIFY. 
          WE DID MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR WE MET WITH, UH, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK AT THE END OF 2022. 
          IT WAS EITHER NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER. 
          UM, AND IT IS TRUE, THEY REACHED OUT TO US ASKING IF THERE'S ANY, UH, UPDATES TO PLANS OF WHICH I SAID WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES. 
          WE ARE JUST IN THE ZONING PHASE RIGHT NOW. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN LAYOUTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I PROVIDED THAT TO THEM. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO SHARE. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES IN THIS AREA. 
          THE STREETS ARE TOO NARROW, IT DOESN'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. 
          UM, THERE'S DRAINAGE ISSUES AND ALL OF THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO TALK ABOUT THE CITY NOT HAVING THE FUNDING TO FIX THESE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES WITHOUT FUNDING COMES FROM DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS, FROM STREET IMPACT FEES, FROM ALL OF THE OTHER FEES THAT ARE ASSESSED AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE CITY GETS A LOT OF THE FUNDING TO DO THESE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, THIS PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT IN THE FUTURE, WHENEVER ATD COMES THROUGH, THEY, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM STAFF IS THAT A T D IS LOOKING AT MATTHEW'S LANE BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CORRECT. 
          THERE IS A CUMULATIVE IMPACT TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS AREA AS THERE ARE IN MANY OTHER AREAS OF AUSTIN AS WELL. 
          UM, EVERYONE'S FEELING THE SQUEEZE, EVERYONE'S FEELING THE UNCOMFORTABLENESS OF TRAFFIC. 
          UM, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T STOP DEVELOPING, BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT THERE SHOULD BE REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION FOR SYSTEMIC WIDE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          BUT IN THE LEAST THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          THERE WILL BE STREET IMPACT FEES THEY WILL PUT IN SIDEWALKS. 
          UH, THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE INTERSECTION WHERE, UM, WHERE ALBERT MEETS SHERWOOD. 
          I KNOW ATDS LOOKING AT STRAIGHTENING OUT THAT INTERSECTION AND MAKING IT AN ACTUAL PERPENDICULAR INTERSECTION VERSUS, UH, A VERY SHARP CORNER. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE. 
          UM, BUT ALSO TOO, SF SIX PROVIDES A, A VARIETY OF HOUSING WHICH THIS AREA, UM, IS SEEING WITH THE SF SIX TO THE SOUTH. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERN IS PEOPLE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO, AS IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO AGE IN PLACE, UM, MAYBE THEY CAN'T TAKE ON MAINTAINING A THREE ACRE LOT ANYMORE, BUT MAYBE THEY LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS OFFERS AN, OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY, ANOTHER HOUSING TYPE WHERE THEY CAN STILL STAY IN THE AREA THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN FOR A LONG TIME AND BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY AS THEY, UM, AS THEY GET OLDER. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY, WAIT HERE A SECOND. 
          I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          SURE. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CONCERNED ABOUT NOT SEEING LIKE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT MOST OF THIS IS THAT SITE PLAN, UM, AND THAT Y'ALL HAVE, YOU'RE ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          HAS THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST TO AUSTIN WATER BEEN SUBMITTED? UM, OKAY. 
          LIKE I KNOW THAT'LL HAVE TO HAPPEN, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF Y'ALL HAVE THE RESULTS TO SHOW YEAH, NO, THAT, THAT HAS NOT HAPPEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          UM, YOU DID MENTION THAT YOU'RE NOT SORT OF AT THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN PHASE, BUT, UM, I'M, I'M WONDERING, I GUESS IT'S A TWO PART QUESTION. 
          WHY SF SIX AND, AND WHERE'D YOU GET 37 UNITS IF YOU'RE NOT AT THAT SORT OF CONCEPTUAL PHASE? SO THE 37 UNITS, WELL, SF SIX BECAUSE IT PROVIDES MORE 
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CREATIVE DESIGN. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK AROUND TREES AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO CARVE UP LAND. 
          WHEN YOU CARVE UP LAND, LIKE LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE THIS THREE ACRE LOT, IF YOU CARVE IT UP INTO 27 LOTS, WHICH I BELIEVE, UH, IS WHAT WE CALCULATED IS POSSIBLE BASED OFF OF JUST DATA, JUST NUMBERS, THEN YOU HAVE SETBACKS FROM EACH LOT LINE THAT EACH NEW LOT LINE THAT YOU CREATE. 
          SO IT THAT YOU CREATE. 
          SO IT CREATES LESS FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO WORK AROUND HERITAGE TREES AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DOES PROVIDE A GOOD DEAL OF, OF A, A DECENT SIZE, DECENT NUMBER OF UNITS. 
          UM, THAT WE FEEL LIKE WHILE IT'S NOT WHAT SF TWO HAS BEEN IN THIS, UH, AREA FOR DECADES, IT IS STILL WITHIN THIS SINGLE FAMILY BRACKET AND PROVIDES A GOOD NUMBER OF UNITS THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO AUSTIN'S, UM, HOUSING SUPPLY. 
          UM, AND WHAT WAS YOUR SECOND QUESTION? YOUR SECOND QUESTION WAS, UM, OH, HOW DID WE ARRIVE AT 37? SO JUST LOOKING AT CALCULATIONS UNDER SF SIX, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 3,500 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT SITE AREA PER UNIT. 
          AND SO IF YOU TAKE THREE ACRES TIMES 43,560, WHICH IS ONE ACRE THREE TIMES THAT AND THEN DIVIDE IT BY THE 3,500, YOU ROUGHLY GET TO ABOUT 37 UNITS. 
          REALISTICALLY, ONCE A SITE PLAN LAYOUT IS PERFORMED, IT'S LIKELY TO BE LESS THAN THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE JUST WENT WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER POSSIBLE BASED OFF OF CALCULATIONS BECAUSE WE'VE NOT DONE A SITE PLAN AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY, IT FEELS LIKE A REUNION HERE. 
          I RECOGNIZE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HIT WITH A LOT OF CASES ON MATTHEWS LANE AND IN FACT, AND ALSO IT'S GOOD TO SEE RON THROWER AND VICTORIA HAIE. 
          SO, UM, AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL AND THAT IS, I KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'VE SEEN THE OPEN, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, OPEN DRAINAGE THERE, WHICH PREVENTS HAVING A SIDEWALK. 
          AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT CASES THERE, BUT HAVE ANY IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENED SINCE WE FIRST STARTED HEARING CASES FOR YOUR AREA ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO? BECAUSE, UM, AND, UM, NEIGHBOR AND VICTORIA CAN COME UP BECAUSE I REMEMBER DRIVING THROUGH THAT AND IT WAS DEFINITELY NOT, IT WAS, IT HAD A VERY RURAL FEEL FOR IT. 
          AND WHERE HAVE AND WHERE HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES? IF SO? YEAH, THERE'S BEEN MANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR IT? YEAH, IF YOU CAN SAY YOUR NAME. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          RUTH LAUER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THERE'S BEEN MANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS. 
          THE ONE AT 1103 MATTHEWS LANE DOES NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK ON MATTHEWS LANE. 
          UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ONE IN THE PLANS FOR 1609 MATTHEWS LANE THAT WAS APPROVED WITH A VARIANCE. 
          UH, THE SOUTH, SOUTH, UH, WHAT'S IT CALLED AGAIN? SOUTH STONE DID BUILD A SIDEWALK, UH, WITH A FENCE, A BIG PRIVACY FENCE BEHIND IT. 
          UM, AND THAT'S ON SHOREWOOD. 
          THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS HAVE NOT BUILT ANY SIDEWALKS OR DONE ANY YET IMPROVEMENTS. 
          IN FACT, THE ONE AT 74 15 ALBERT ROAD HAS BLOCKED THE DRAINAGE DITCH WITH SOME OF THE DRAIN WORK THEY WERE DOING. 
          SO IT'S NOW FLOODING AGAIN. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND VICTORIA? UM, WELL I HAVE TO SAY, I CAN'T SPEAK TO A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE WERE INVOLVED WITH, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE CITY REQUIRES SIDEWALK INSTALLATION. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH 74 15 ALBERT AND I WROTE IT DOWN BECAUSE I'M CUR CURIOUS AND I WANNA GO LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, BUT THE CITY WILL REQUIRE SIDEWALKS TO BE PUT IN. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE. 
          YOU EITHER HAVE TO PUT IT IN YOURSELF OR YOU HAVE TO PAY THE CITY TO GO IN, PUT IT IN. 
          SO MAYBE IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE THE FUNDS WERE PAID TO THE CITY AND THE CITY HASN'T DONE THEIR PART. 
          I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER AND THAT IS IF THERE'S A OPEN, IF THERE'S AN OPEN AND OPEN, UM, DRAINAGE, THEN THEY HAVE TO PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DRAINAGE AND THEN THEY PUT THE SIDEWALK ON TOP OF IT. 
          AND I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. 
          I SEE RON COMING UP, BUT I THINK RON IS DEFINITELY, YEAH, IT GETS MORE, THE BETTER PERSON COMPLICATED THAN JUST PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK. 
          BUT, UM, CUZ I KIND OF REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION FROM THE PAST RON THROWER REPRESENTING THE, UH, APPLICANT. 
          UH, WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO WHEN WE SEE A SITUATION WITH A BAR DITCH, AND WE DID THIS ON A PROJECT UP AYER, IS WE WILL PUT THE SIDEWALK ON THE PROPERTY AND PUT IT IN AN EASEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE, WE PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU 
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TO BRING UP TRANSPORTATION STAFF BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT, UH, ATDS TAKEN A POSITION WHERE FEE AND LOSE NOT THE PREFERRED ROUTE TO GO AND THEY WANT THE ACTUAL SIDEWALK. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I DO ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S LIKE A CONFLICT BETWEEN D AND ALSO THE WA WASTEWATER. 
          SO, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING HERE. 
          AND IF I CAN JUST MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT ON THE MATTHEWS 1609 MATTHEWS LANE CASE, SO THAT, THAT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IN SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          NOTHING'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF AN ACTUAL SITE PLAN JUST YET. 
          SO PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN SIDEWALKS YET BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL, THEY'RE STILL DESIGNING IT RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LADIES ON ANDREW RIVER. 
          VERA, APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION, BUT, UM, I DO HAVE MS. UH, FERNANDEZ WHO WAS ABLE TO JOIN US, US THIS EVENING OF VIA TELECONFERENCE, UM, WHEN THE APPROPRIATE TIME WOULD BE TO, UH, ALLOW HER TO PROVIDE REMARKS IF IT'S A DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION. 
          I'M GOOD WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          YES. 
          OKAY, MR. FERNANDEZ, AS YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX, PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. 
          YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          HMM. 
          MY NAME IS KAREN FERNANDEZ AND I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE MATTHEWS LANE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          I'M SURE I COULDN'T BE THERE IN PERSON. 
          I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING THE NEW MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          I'VE CALLED IN AND VIEWED QUITE A FEW OF THE Z MEETINGS OVER THE PAST YEAR AND I WAS HAPPY AT THE, THAT THE LAST MEETING THAT MORE THAN ONE MEMBER EXPRESSED THE DESIRE TO HAVE MORE INPUT AND PLANNING FROM ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORS. 
          MATTHEWS LANE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN VERY PROACTIVE IN COMMUNICATING WITH NEW OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS WHO ARE MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TO OUR UNIQUE CHALLENGES. 
          AS MY COHORTS HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH YOU, THE DRAINAGE, THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS, THE NARROW ROADS, AND THE FACT THAT NO MONEY HAS EVER BEEN PUT INTO OUR ISSUES. 
          I DO NOT WANNA REPEAT EVERYTHING, BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WHAT ARE WE TO DO WHEN THERE IS NO PLAN AND NO BUILDER TO COMMUNICATE WITH? AS MY NEIGHBORS TOLD YOU? UM, MR. HANSON HAS DECIDED FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, ONE REASON BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES HE'S HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET RUNNING A CHURCH THAT'S REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE AND A SALVAGE YARD AND THE PARKING AND THE CARS AND PEOPLE PARKING IN FRONT OF HIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN FRONT OF HIS HOME. 
          HE'S DECIDED TO NOT RETIRE THERE AND LIVE OUT HIS DREAM OF HAVING A LITTLE ASH AROUND WITH A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN. 
          UM, WE'VE DISCUSSED MANY TIMES LOWERING THE DENSITY, BUT HE DOES NOT WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE HE IS LOOKING FOR HIS PORTUGAL MONEY, WHICH WE ALL COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT WE FEEL THAT THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IF YOU JUST GRANT THE SF SIX WITHOUT A PLAN THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH SOMEBODY, WHEN CAN WE COME BACK LATER AS A NEIGHBORHOOD TO DISCUSS UNIT LIMIT NUMBERS, THE SETBACKS, ET CETERA, HAVING SOME VEGETATION LEFT FOR ALL THE WILDLIFE THAT IS THERE OR TO CAPTURE THE RUNOFF THAT WILL BE COMING OFF OF THAT LOT. 
          AS MS. THROWER SAID, WE DID MEET ONCE MY ATTEMPTS TO FOLLOW UP AND MEET AGAIN, WE'RE IGNORED CUZ SHE SAID SHE HAD NO FURTHER INFORMATION. 
          THE REASON THERE'S NO FURTHER INFORMATION IS THE LOT HAS NOT BEEN SOLD YET. 
          THERE IS NOT A BUILDER THAT HAS BEEN GUARANTEED THE OPTION. 
          SO THERE'S NOBODY TO DISCUSS THE SITE PLAN WITH. 
          SO I ASK THAT YOU PERHAPS POSTPONE OR GIVE US A LOWER DESIGNATION AND SF THREE, WHICH WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN TRYING TO COMMUNICATE AND YET HAVE NOT REALLY HAD A RESPONSE. 
          I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          YES. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION I GUESS FOR STAFF, WHICH IS, THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS SF SIX C O. 
          CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IS THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY? I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THE CO INFORMATION WITH ME, BUT LET ME SEE IF I CAN LOOK THAT UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          FINDING THAT WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET A SECOND AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR DO WE WANNA KEEP THE HOLY HEARING OPEN? GOOD THING WE KEPT IT OPEN FOR THE CALL-INS BEFORE. 
          YES, IT WAS, IT WORKED OUT VERY FORTUITOUSLY. 
          UM, IS IT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF, WOULD WOULD NOW BE THE TIME YES. 
          WHILE WE'RE YEP. 
          FIGURING THAT OUT? YES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I I I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE FROM ATD IS HERE, UM, MAYBE THE THE CASE MANAGER OR AN ATD STAFFER COULD ANSWER THIS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS, IF ANY, ARE PLANNED FROM THE CITY SIDE, 
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UH, IN THIS AREA, EITHER ON SHERWOOD OR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SORT OF LARGER MATTHEWS LANE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          UM, CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS A, A PERENNIAL SOURCE OF CONCERN. 
          YEAH. 
          AMBER HUTCHINS WITH THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND, UH, SHERWOOD AND MATTHEWS ARE BOTH, UH, ON THE CITY'S ROADWAY CAPACITY PLAN. 
          SO THEY DO QUALIFY FOR UPGRADE ONCE THERE IS SUFFICIENT FUNDING WITHIN THAT. 
          UH, DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS WILL CONTRIBUTE IT TO IT AS, UH, WE GET ENOUGH FUNDING WILL PRIORITIZE THOSE PROJECTS. 
          THEY'LL BOTH BE UPGRADED TO LEVEL TWO ROADWAYS WITH BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN DRAINAGE AND UH, FULL ROADWAY CAPACITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I, I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU SITTING BACK THERE NEXT TO ME. 
          SORRY, I I DID WANNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT. 
          UM,  APOLOGIES. 
          NO WORRIES. 
          UM, I, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT TIMELINE IS SORT OF, DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE OF HOW THAT TIMELINE IS OR WOULD FURTHER DEVELOPMENT CAUSE IT TO MAYBE GET HIGHER UP IN THE QUEUE OR? THERE IS A PRIORITIZATION SCHEMA THAT IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          UM, AT THIS JUNCTURE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING IN THE POT YET TO HAVE FULLY FLESHED OUT WHAT IS GONNA COME IN WHEN, UM, THIS, THIS, PARDON ME, THE STREET IMPACT FUND HAS ONLY BEEN, UH, REALLY BEEN IMPLEMENTING IT FOR ABOUT 12 MONTHS NOW, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO FUNDING ASIDE, WOULD THIS SORT OF DEVELOPMENT AND OTHERS LIKE IT, UM, AFFECT THAT PRIORITIZATION SCHEMA? UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPROVE CAPACITY ON ROADWAYS WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS OCCURRING. 
          SO YES, THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT. 
          WE ALSO LOOK AT SAFETY, SO, UH, ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN IN THE AREA, PEDESTRIAN VEHICULAR ACCIDENTS, UM, OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD IMPROVE CAPACITY JUST AS SIGNAL SIGNALIZATION, WE LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHERE DENSITY IS SUPPORTED. 
          SO YES, MORE DEVELOPMENT WOULD HELP, UM, OR, OR SUPPORT THE RANKING OF IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION ON HAND, BUT, UM, WHAT ARE, I GUESS YOUR DEPARTMENT'S, UH, THOUGHTS ON THE SAFETY ISSUES OF THIS PARTICULAR ROAD? I UNDERSTAND THERE'S DIFFERENT SCHOOLS OF THOUGHTS. 
          SOME SEE NARROWER ROADS IS ACTUALLY BEING A LITTLE BIT SAFER BECAUSE THEY DISCOURAGE RECKLESS DRIVING. 
          I'VE MM-HMM. 
          , UM, JUST, JUST BEEN LOOKING AT THE ROAD AND IT'S, IT DOES SEEM TO HAVE FOLLOWED THIS IDEA OF LIKE NARROW ROADS THAT FORCE CARS TO BE, I KNOW I LIVE ON A NARROW ROAD AND IT MAKES PEOPLE NERVOUS, BUT THAT NERVOUS IS ALSO CAN ENHANCE THE SAFETY CUZ PEOPLE ARE MUCH MORE CONSCIOUS, SO MM-HMM. 
          , HOW DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT LOOK AT THAT? THAT'S WHY WE WANNA TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT IT BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT WHEN YOU NARROW ROADS, PEOPLE INTENTIONALLY HAVE TO SLOW DOWN TO KIND OF MAKE A TURN LIKE THAT. 
          BUT IT IS A VERY EXCESSIVE TURN A CORNER. 
          AND SO WE DO WANNA LOOK AT WOULD IT HELP TO REALLY SQUARE IT UP, PROVIDE PEOPLE BETTER VISIBILITY AT THAT INTERSECTION? WE DON'T KNOW YET. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WOULD THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, I GUESS IMPACT YOUR DECISION, UM, COULD THEY, YOU KNOW, BE PART OF THAT, I GUESS, UH, SQUARING UP OF THE ROAD OR WOULD IT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON I GUESS THAT THAT CORNER AT LEAST IT, IT POTENTIALLY COULD IF THERE'S INSUFFICIENT RIGHT OF WAY. 
          BOTH ALBERT AND SHERWOOD DO NEED RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. 
          SO YEAH, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ASSIST THE PROCESS, BUT AS A SAFETY AND AN OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENT, IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT AS WHETHER IT'S BENEFICIAL OVERALL REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS TO THE COMMISSION, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN ADD AS AN AMENDMENT? UM, SO MAYBE THAT PROPERTY DO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT TURN, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? I WOULD LOOK AS TAP, I DON'T THINK SO, NO. 
          UM, GENERALLY OUR LIMITATIONS ARE MORE ZONING, NOT TRANSPORTATION OR, OR WATER QUALITY OR UTILITY RELATED. 
          THEY'RE MORE, WE COULD LOOK AT LIMITING NUMBER OF UNITS OR HEIGHTS OR SETBACKS, THAT KIND OF ZONING RESTRICTIONS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT. 
          FIGURED I'D ASK YOU. 
          GOOD QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DOES STAFF HAVE A ANSWER TO THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY QUESTION?  SEARCH RIGHT THERE. 
          SO I'M LOOKING AT THE CO INFORMATION RIGHT NOW AND IT IS THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. 
          THERE'S THREE ITEMS. ONE IS TO LIMIT SHERWOOD ROAD TO FUNCTION AS A SECONDARY VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT NUMBER TWO, IT PROHIBITS VEHICULAR ACCESS TO DAMON ROAD AND THREE LIMITS DEVELOPMENT TO 2000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, THAT'S 
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IT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          IT IS FROM LIKE 2006 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, 2000 2005. 
          2005. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JUST A, A FOLLOW UP TO THAT. 
          WAS THERE AN A SECOND CONDITIONAL OVERLAY PLACED IN 2012 ON THE PROPERTY ? OKAY. 
          I DID, I DID SEE IT IN PROPERTY PROFILE. 
          SO  OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          CHECKING. 
          YES. 
          UH, 1300 DITMAR I BELIEVE  QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, I, SO THESE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR OVERLAY IS A SITE PLAN OR BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE PROPERTY MAY NOT BE APPROVED, RELEASED OR ISSUED. 
          IF THE COMPLETED DEVELOPMENT OR USES OF THE PROPERTY CONSIDERED CUMULATIVELY WITH ALL EXISTING OR PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED DEVELOPMENT AND USES GENERATE TRAFFIC THAT EXCEEDS 2000 TRIPS PER DAY, VEH VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM THE PROPERTY TO SHERWOOD ROAD SHALL FUNCTION AS A SECONDARY VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT ONLY AND ACCEPT AS PROVIDED IN PART TWO SUBSECTION B. 
          VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM THE PROPERTY TO DAMON ROAD IN SHERMAN ROAD IS PROHIBITED. 
          ALL VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY SHALL BE FROM OTHER ADJACENT PUBLIC STREETS OR THROUGH OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTIES. 
          OH, APOLOGIZE. 
          THERE'S TWO MORE. 
          DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY MAY NOT EXCEED 252 DWELLING UNITS AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY MAY NOT EXCEED SIX DWELL UNITS PER ACRE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          STILL WAITING FOR A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          OH, SECOND THE QUESTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING . 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, DO YOU HAVE QUESTION? JUST ASKING WHO, WHO MOVED THE SECOND HEARING? THE SECOND ONE WAS FROM COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. 
          MOTION WAS FROM COMMISSIONER COSTA, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED, IT WAS UNANIMOUS. 
          SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. 
          THAT WAS THE LONGEST PENDING MOTION WE'VE EVER HAD. 
          , , COMMISSIONER ACOA, UH, THANK YOU. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'LL GET ON A SOAPBOX ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING AND ENTITLEMENT, IT IS THE NEED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO REALLY PROVIDE FOR MORE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. 
          UM, THE MAP THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED IS COMPELLING IN JUST HOW MISSING THAT LEVEL OF ZONING IS AND THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THAT TYPE OF ENTITLEMENT IS IN THE CITY. 
          AND SO FOR THAT ALONE, I REALLY THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT FOR ME IS ENOUGH TO SUPPORT IT. 
          BUT REALLY IN THIS AREA WHERE THERE IS AN ADJACENT ABILITY TO HAVE THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE A FIVE MINUTE BIKE RIDE FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ROUTE THREE BUS, UH, ROUTE THREE BUS ON MINKA, EVEN IF IT IS, YOU KNOW, NOT AS THE CROW FLIES THAT CLOSE, IT'S ONLY A FIVE MINUTE BIKE RIDE UP, UP MATTHEWS AND DOWN, UH, UP IS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          IT'S A VERY CLOSE ROUTE. 
          AND THIS IS AN AREA LIKE FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY, WHATEVER FORM THIS TAKES, THERE'S AN ABILITY FOR FLEXIBILITY. 
          AND SO THIS IS A TYPE OF ZONING JUST IN AND OF ITSELF THAT I THINK WE NEED TO SEE MORE OF AND WE SHOULD SUPPORT OF IN ALL PARTS OF THE CITY. 
          BUT THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND SO I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER TO SUPPORT THIS. 
          UM, NOT NOT JUST THIS CASE, BUT ANYTIME WE SEE S OF SIX OR SIMILAR THINGS LIKE THAT, MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          UH, IT IS SIMILAR IN DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS AND HEIGHT TO SINGLE FAMILY. 
          IT IS ALLOWS FOR A DENSER UNIT COUNT, BUT IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. 
          SO I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK ENOUGH ON JUST THAT, ON HAMMERING THAT DEAD HORSE AND GETTING THAT POINT ACROSS THAT IT IS A GOOD TOOL AND A GOOD TYPE OF ENTITLEMENT TO HAVE IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          UM, I HEAR THE RESIDENTS CONCERNED THAT THEY DIDN'T SEE A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE SURETY OF WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE. 
          AND, UH, I REALLY HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THOROUGH DESIGN GETS WITH Y'ALL OR THAT YOU GET WITH THEM WHEN THEY HAVE A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          AND IF YOU GUYS CAN MY ASK TO Y'ALL THAT YOU REACH OUT TO THEM WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SET. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S WEIRD TO THINK TO MYSELF AS MORE OF A VETERAN VETERAN ON THIS BOARD NOW, ESPECIALLY CUZ I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THAT LONG, BUT HERE I AM. 
          I THINK THERE'S ONLY FOUR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER. 
          UM, YEAH, IT'S SCARY NOW. 
          YES. 
          UM, BUT I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THEIR DESIGNS PROJECTS COME THROUGH IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON AND THEY'VE, THEY DO PHENOMENAL WORK IN THE CITY AND I THINK THAT YOU, I THINK YOU COULD BE HAPPY WITH WHAT, WHAT THEY PRODUCE. 
          SO I HOPE THEY, YOU, YOU, UH, YOU REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND THAT YOU CONTINUE THAT EFFORT. 
          UM, SO YEAH, THAT BEING SAID, I, I, I'LL, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS MEASURE. 
          OKAY. 
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WELL AS THE VETERAN WHO'S BEEN HERE SINCE, UH, TEN ONE BECAME INAUGURATED AND, UM, SOMEONE, YEAH. 
          ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS. 
          I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN ALL THESE CASES COME THROUGH AND I'VE BEEN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD A FEW TIMES. 
          AND ONE TIME IT WAS KIND OF SCARY. 
          OH, I THINK IT WAS MATTHEWS NOW I CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          I WISH I HAD DONE ANOTHER SITE VISIT. 
          SO I, UM, AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE ON THE WATERSHED MAP, WHICH I RELY ON THAT COMPLETE AREA, THAT WHOLE PARCEL IS, UH, IS MAPPED AS LOCALIZED FLOODING, NOT LIKE LITTLE, THE LITTLE RED DOTS, BUT THE WHOLE AREA IS BLUE. 
          SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT INCREASING IMPERVIOUS COVER THERE. 
          AND I DO. 
          UM, AND ALSO WHEN WE HAD A ZONING CASE, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR, UM, IT WAS UNANIMOUS FROM THIS COMMISSION AND FROM IT TO DO SF THREE ON ALBERT ROAD. 
          AND THEN, UM, COUNCIL, I BELIEVE ALSO SUP, UH, DID SF THREE ON ALBERT ROAD. 
          AND THEN TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD A CASE AND IT WAS SF THREE ON ALBERT ROAD. 
          BUT I DO SEE THE NEED FOR MORE HOUSING. 
          SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SF SIX, BUT WITH THE CEO OF THE UNIT CAP, UM, OF SIX UNITS PER PER ACRE PER. 
          SO I'LL, UM, I'LL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE AS AN AMENDMENT TO HAVE A CEO OF SIX UNITS PER, THERE HASN'T BEEN A MOTION YET. 
          OH, I'LL, I'LL MOVE. 
          LET ME ASK, LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION ON THAT. 
          SIX UNITS PER ACRE, YOU GOT 3.1, YOU'VE GOT 18 POINT WHATEVER UNITS AND THEY COULD HAVE AN ADU WITH EACH UNIT. 
          UM, SF SIX? I DON'T THINK YOU CAN. 
          NO, YOU CAN'T. 
          NO, IT'S JUST UNITS PER ACRE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND ACTUALLY MAYBE WITH SF THREE YOU COULD DO, I MEAN, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GET MORE UNITS WITH SF THREE WITH AN ADU. 
          THE BENEFIT OF SF SIX, I THINK IS THE SITE PLAN PHASE. 
          OH, NO, I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU, WITH YOU ON THAT. 
          WE'RE JUST TALKING UNITS PER ACRE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, I DO THINK THAT SF SIX MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT PUSHING THE BOUNDARY. 
          I WOULD BE WORRIED THOUGH, ABOUT SF THREE OR LESS OR ANYTHING THAT AVOIDS THE SITE PLAN JUST BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER WILL BUILD IT BEFORE THE CITY DOES. 
          AND I LIKE THE SS SIX. 
          I DON'T MIND THE UNIT COUNT CAP. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET COMFORTABLE WHAT THAT UNIT CAP IS. 
          THERE'S A PRECEDENT IN THE AREA FOR SIX. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I WOULD SUPPORT THE UNIT, UM, SIX UNITS BREAKER, PARTICULARLY SINCE THE APPLICANT BROUGHT UP THE SF SIX ACROSS THE STREET AS A PRECEDENT. 
          SO THE PRECEDENCE ISN'T FOR UNRESTRICTED SF SIX, IT'S FOR SF SIX WITH THAT CO IN THIS CASE, SIX UNITS PER ACRE. 
          SOUNDS RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S THE SAME THAT WAS BROUGHT BY THE APPLICANT, THE SIX UNIT? WELL, NO, THE APPLICANT SAID, THEY MENTIONED THE SITE NEXT DOOR AND THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET THAT THEY REFERENCED IS SF SIX WITH A CEO OF SIX UNITS PER ACER CAP. 
          SO THAT IS WHAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM. 
          MAY I, UH, JUST MAKE A POINT ON DISCUSSION HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I REALLY AGREE WITH WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER ACOA MENTIONED ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING SORT OF BEING OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE. 
          OBVIOUSLY FSS SIX WOULD ALLOW THAT, UH, IN THIS CASE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M TORN ABOUT THIS CASE IN GENERAL. 
          UM, I THINK THAT AS SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, HAVE POINTED TO, YOU KNOW, AND ATD AND, AND CITY STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, THERE ARE ISSUES WITH, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, WIDESPREAD ISSUES. 
          UM, THERE ARE ALSO ISSUES, I I WISH WE COULD PULL UP THAT MAP THAT SHOWED THE OTHER SF SIX SITES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS DO IT PART OF A LARGER PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS FOR MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING SORT OF TRANSITION FROM DENSER TO LESS DENSE AREAS. 
          IT WAS ONLY REALLY SEEN ON THE FRINGES OF THE CITY. 
          I I THINK THAT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS A, A FAILURE IN PLANNING, UM, TO ZONE THE CITY APPROPRIATELY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I I LIKE THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IT GIVES. 
          I LIKE THE DESIGN STANDARDS. 
          I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT THIS IS THE BEST SITE FOR 37 UNITS, UM, ON A SUBSTANDARD ROAD. 
          UM, BUT I, I REALLY THINK THIS CASE UNDERSCORES SOME, SOME MAJOR ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BIGGER ISSUES IN TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, UM, AND IN OUR, OUR OVERALL LAND USE PLANNING AS WELL. 
          UH, WE REALLY, REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS STUFF MORE COMPREHENSIVELY. 
          SO DID I HEAR A MOTION OF THE SECOND FROM YOU GUYS? YES. 
          SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KIBA AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREENBERG 
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FOR SF SIX WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY AND SIX UNITS PER ACRE FOR A DENSITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? READY FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 1.8 I I, GO AHEAD. 
          OH, GO. 
          NO, GO AHEAD . 
          THANKS MR. THOMPSON. 
          OFTEN VIRTUAL LAND, UM, JUST TO MAKING A COMMENT, UH, I WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER KOBAS COMMENT ABOUT LOCALIZED SLEDDING. 
          I THINK, UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO PLAN TO DEAL WITH THAT, THAT ISSUE. 
          AND I MEAN, AS MUCH AS THIS SITE CAN DO TO, TO MITIGATE ITS OWN IMPACTS, IT'S GREAT. 
          BUT, UH, WE ARE SEEING THESE CUMULATIVE OSE FLOODING ISSUES ALL OVER THE CITY. 
          AND, AND SO WE SHOULD BE MINDFUL AND THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS IMPACT GOES. 
          I AGREE. 
          AND THE WAY IT GETS ADDRESSED IS WHEN THEY COME THROUGH AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE ROADWAY FUND, WHEN THEY IMPROVE THE ROADWAY, THEY'LL IMPROVE THE DRAIN. 
          AT THE SAME TIME, THEY WON'T DO ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. 
          AND SO I THINK THE MORE DEVELOPMENT WE GET IN THIS AREA, THE MORE FUNDING WE'LL HAVE TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE LOCALIZED ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          GREAT. 
          THAT IS A VERY LONG GAME. 
          THAT'S A VERY LONG GAME. 
          AND REALLY, UH, A LOT OF REAL LIFE, REAL TIME IMPACT. 
          DON'T DISAGREE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UM, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT? SURE. 
          UM, IS, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK IF THEY'RE AMENABLE TO, ARE YOU OKAY WITH SF SIX, SF SIX WITH SIX UNIT PER ACRE WITH AN OVERLAY, 18 UNITS INSTEAD OF 37? MM-HMM. 
          , UH, SF SIX WITH A SIX UNIT PER ACRE CAP? NO, WE'RE NOT. 
          I MEAN, IF THE ISSUE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT EQUAL TO WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET THAT WAS REZONED IN 2005, I THINK WE'RE IN A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION TODAY THAN WE ARE. 
          WE'RE IN 2005. 
          YEAH. 
          DOES SOMEONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION FOR A HIGHER NO, THAT MOTIONS ON THE TABLE. 
          WE CAN, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION. 
          YEAH, NO, WE CAN, WE'LL JUST VOTE ON THIS AND THEN, OR COULD WE, CAN WE MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION INSTEAD? YES, YOU CAN. 
          YES. 
          UM, WELL, I'D MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO APPROVE SF SIX WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY HAPPENING AT, UH, EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE. 
          OKAY. 
          OR NINE, LET'S MAKE IT NINE. 
          THAT'LL SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE UNITS PER 18 TO 37 TOTAL. 
          DO I HEAR A SECOND AT NINE UNITS PER ACRE? SECOND THAT, OKAY. 
          UM, MOTION IS BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FOUTS. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          ON SF SIX WITH NINE UNIT PER ACRE CAP. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? I CAN WE AGAIN ASK THE APPLICANT IF NINE UNITS PER ACRE  IS EXACTLY  HALF A THING. 
          I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, BUT  MF SIX, I DON'T THINK I'M IN A POSITION TO SAY YES TO IT. 
          UM, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY I THINK THAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO FIND A COMPROMISE TO THE SITUATION AND I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE . 
          CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? SORRY, RON THROWER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY, . 
          I DO WANNA SAY TO THAT THOSE CAPS MIGHT BE DANGEROUS AND QUICK PUT US IN THE SITUATION. 
          MICROPHONE PLEASE. 
          UM, THOSE CALS COULD PUT US IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S JUST MORE BENEFICIAL TO REASON TWO SF TWO OR SF THREE, WHERE IT MIGHT NOT BE, IT MIGHT NOT GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WANT OR NEED. 
          AND I WOULD THINK THAT HOPEFULLY WHAT HAPPENS IS BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT MEETS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND THEY WORK OUT AND COME TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, WE ALL AGREE THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS 9.4. 
          UM, SOMETHING THERE. 
          BUT I THINK HAVING A NUMBER IN THERE IS THAT PLUS HOW WE'RE SAYING SAY, LOOK, WE AGREE WITH SF SIX. 
          WE THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A CAP. 
          WE THINK 90 APPROPRIATE NUMBER, BUT CERTAINLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE APPLICANTS SIT, SIT DOWN BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON A NUMBER. 
          I THINK IF THEY PRESENTED A NUMBER TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY ALL AGREED ON IT, WHETHER THERE'S HIGHER OR LOWER, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD STAND A LOT BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING THAT APPROVED AT CITY COUNCIL. 
          YEAH. 
          CHAIR SMITH, CAN I SPEAK TO THAT? BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF CAPS AND ESPECIALLY ON SF SIX WE HAVE DONE A LOT. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL. 
          IT'S KIND OF SECOND NATURE TO US. 
          YEAH. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE S SIX WITH NINE UNITS PER ACRE CAP. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? YOU KNOW, I, I, I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE BENEFIT IN MY, MY MIND OF SF SIX WITH A CAP IS THAT YOU DO RETAIN THE FLEXIBILITY IN SITE DESIGN, UH, TO DO DIFFERENT SORT OF HOUSING TYPES. 
          UM, AND YOU ALSO RETAIN THAT SITE PLAN, UH, SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENT VERSUS SF THREE OR SF TWO OR WHATEVER ELSE. 
          UH, LOWER DENSITY SF DESIGNATION. 
          UH, YOU COULD COME IN SUBDIVIDE, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MORE TIME AND EXPENSE AND THEN FILE FOR BUILDING PERMITS 
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AND NOT HAVE AS MUCH OF THAT SORT OF MITIGATION PROCESS AND REVIEW THAT YOU WOULD GET AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE. 
          UM, SO I DO THINK THERE IS SOME MERIT THERE FOR, FOR SF SIX WITH THAT OVER OVERLAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHATEVER THE RIGHT NUMBER MAY BE. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY, LET'S HAVE A VOTE OF ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SF SIX WITH A CAP OF NINE OR A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OF NINE UNITS PER ACRE BACKS. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT IS, UM, AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SO EVERYBODY SUPPORTING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONERS KIELBASA AND GREENBERG. 
          SO 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 2. 
          SO THAT IS APPROVED. 
          AND AGAIN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE NEIGHBORHOOD APPLICANT TO KIND OF SIT DOWN AND TALK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. 
          UM, GOING ON THAT YOU AGENDA, ARE 
          [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? COMMISSIONER GREENBERG? YES. 
          THIS KIND OF CAME OFF OF OUR AGENDA, UM, WAS ON OUR AGENDA LAST MEETING. 
          UM, BUT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE CAN PUT IT ON OUR NEXT AGENDA. 
          IF I HAVE A CO-SPONSOR, I WILL CO-SPONSOR THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AS SOON AS WE HAVE IT PREPARED, IF WE CAN SEND IT OUT, SEND IT A COPY YES. 
          TO UM, ANDREW AND THEN HE CAN SEND IT OUT TO GO BUDDY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UH, WE'LL HAVE A MEMO COMING FROM ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING THE, THE BUDGET. 
          I THINK IT'S BEEN DRAFTED UP ALREADY, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO DRAFTED IT ARE NO LONGER ON THE COMMISSION. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          ANDREW WILL SEND THIS ALL OUT A COPY, BRING YOUR COMMENTS MARKUPS, AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH A FINAL MOTION COMING OUT. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OH, I'D LOVE TO SUGGEST, NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          . 
          YEAH, NO, SORRY. 
          . 
          FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WORTHY COUNCIL MEMBER IS GONNA BE PRESIDENT. 
          HOW ABOUT THAT? COUNCIL MEMBER? COMMISSIONER. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ELECTIONS 
          [7. Election of interim parliamentarian.]
AND NOMINATIONS. 
          ITEM SEVEN, ELECTION OF AN INTERIM PARLIAMENTARIAN. 
          AND AGAIN, THESE ARE INTERIM OFFICERS WHO WILL SERVE UNTIL APRIL 30TH. 
          AND THEN A REGULAR ELECTION OF OFFICERS WILL OCCUR ON APRIL 4TH. 
          AND THE TERM WILL BEGIN ON MAY 1ST, APRIL 4TH. 
          APRIL 4TH MEETING IS WHEN THEY WILL OCCUR THE ELECTION. 
          CAUSE WE'LL HAVE SO NOT TILL APRIL 30TH OR UNTIL APRIL. 
          THAT'S SORT THE INTERIM OFFICERS SERVE UNTIL APRIL 30TH. 
          SO INTERIM OFFICERS WHO WE ARE NOW WILL SERVE UNTIL APRIL 30TH. 
          ON APRIL 4TH, WE'LL HAVE THE FORMAL NOMINATION AND THE FORMAL TERMS WILL BEGIN ON MAY 1ST. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY AND WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR IS INTERIM OFFICERS TO ACT UNTIL MAY 4TH. 
          MAY 1ST MEETING. 
          SO IS THERE SOMEONE, SO DO WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE INTERIM PARLIAMENTARIAN? ANYBODY HAVE ANY PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE EXPERIENCE? I DO, BUT I CAN'T BE PARLIAMENTARIAN. 
          YEAH. 
          CHAIR. 
          SAME . 
          AND I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE. 
          SO ANYBODY WANNA BE PARLIAMENTARIAN? OH GOD, NOBODY. 
          WHAT IF WE LEAVE A VACANT CHAIR? COMMISSION, LADIES ON VERIS? SO THE ONLY UM, ISSUE THAT I CAN THINK OF WITH LEAVING AN OFFICER POSITION OPEN IS IF A, UM, UM, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE THREE OTHER OFFICERS CANNOT ATTEND A MEETING OR CANNOT. 
          UM, OR IF TWO OTHERS OR THREE OTHERS CANNOT SIGN A PLAT. 
          UM, GOOD POINT. 
          SO, SO WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE BE PARLIAMENTARIAN. 
          HMM. 
          BUT WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A MONTH OR NIGHT UNTIL YES, UNTIL, UM, MAY, MAY 1ST. 
          SO I THINK WE COULD LEAVE IT VACANT. 
          WELL, PEOPLE LOOK OVER ROBERT'S RULES AND SEE IF THEY WANNA DO THAT JOB. 
          WELL I'D JUST LIKE TO SUGGEST COMMISSIONER THOMPSON IS PRESENT AT ALL THE MEETINGS AND SHE'S A GOOD MAKER. 
          SHE IS. 
          SHE'S SECRETARY. 
          DANG IT. 
          . 
          I'M . 
          AND IT'S HARD TO SIGN VIRTUALLY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY A POINT. 
          CUZ SHE, YEAH, BECAUSE YOU COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, YOU, YOU ARE REMOTE VIRTUAL. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          YES. 
          SO I THINK MAYBE A THIRD OFFICER. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL THESE NEWBIES. 
          UM, I I I AGREE. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HURT TO NOT HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I THINK WHEN WE HAVE OUR FORMAL ELECTION, UM, ON APRIL 4TH, WHICH IS JUST OUR NEXT MEETING, WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL SLATE OF FOUR OR WE CAN OFFICERS NOMINATE COMMISSIONER STERN . 
          THAT WOULD BE CRUEL. 
          THAT'S SO BAD. 
          . 
          I THINK HE WOULD KNOW PRO. 
          BUT MAYBE JUST PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. 
          YEAH. 
          EVEN ON THE NEXT AGENDA FOR WE'RE GOOD FOR ANOTHER MEETING FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NEXT 
          [8. Nomination of members to be considered by Council to serve on Joint Committees.]
ITEM IS ITEM EIGHT. 
          NOMINATION OF MEMBERS TO BE CONSIDERED COUNCIL TO SERVE ON JOINT COMMITTEES. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE COMMISSIONER GREENBERG ON THE CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE. 
          SO 
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WE NEED TWO PEOPLE TO FILL THAT. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO, UH, REQUEST TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE TWO NAMES I HAD HEARD WERE COMMISSIONER, UM, ALEJANDRO FLORES AND LONNIE STERN HAD BOTH EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO BE ON COVES AND ORDINANCES. 
          I'M STERN. 
          I'M INTERESTED HERE AND I SEE I'M ALSO INTERESTED YES. 
          IN YOUR, OKAY, SO IT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER FLORES, COMMISSIONER STERN, AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON WOULD BE INTERESTED. 
          THERE'S ONLY TWO SLOTS THERE, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          CHAIR COMMISSION, LAY LIAISON. 
          SO THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND ALSO, UM, COMMISSIONER STERN IS CURRENTLY IN THE HOLDOVER CAPACITY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IF YOU WERE TO NAME HIM AS A UM, NOMINEE, WE WOULD VERY LIKELY HAVE TO REDO THAT POSITION AGAIN ONCE HE'S OKAY. 
          IF HE'S UM, RECONFIRMED TO THIS BODY, IF HE'S RECONFIRMED OR CORRECT. 
          YEAH, HE DID TELL ME HE EXPECTS TO BE RECONFIRMED. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT HE IS NOT THERE YET. 
          BUT I DON'T SEE THE DOCUMENT TO RIGHT BACK THAT UH, OKAY. 
          SO THAT MAKES IT PRETTY EASY THEN. 
          IS THAT A MOTION? UM, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE SLATE OF COMMISSIONER FLORES AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND YEAH. 
          AND YOU DON'T NEED A SECOND, IT'S JUST LIKE RIGHT. 
          WE BY POPULAR ACCLIMATION. 
          SO DOES EVERYBODY VOTE? SHOULD EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT? YEAH, WE CAN AND WE VOTE, BUT YEAH, YOU DON'T NEED A SECOND. 
          HAVE A VOTE FOR CODES AND ORDINANCE HAS COMMITTEE TO BE THE CURRENT, UM, GREENBIRD AND THEN ALSO ADDING ON TO THAT FLORES AND THOMPSON, ALL THOSE IN PAPERS SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          CLOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT TAKES CARE OF. 
          AND ONE ABSTENTION. 
          THE ABSTENTION WAS FROM COMMISSIONER COSTA. 
          SOMEONE ABSTENTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT 
          [COMMITTEE REPORTS & WORKING GROUPS]
COMMISSION. 
          WE HAVE THOMPSON, BOONE AND SMITH. 
          I'M STILL INTERESTED IN STAYING ON. 
          I'M ASSUMING COMMISSIONER BOONE IS INTERESTED IN STAYING ON, BUT HE'S NOT HERE. 
           AND COMMISSIONER ACOA, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN STAYING ON? UM, COMMISSIONER BOONE IS ALSO OVER CHAIR. 
          COMMISSIONER LADIES AT THIS TIME THERE'S UH, THERE'S NO NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE POSITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE IS, IS SET. 
          SO THE ONLY OTHER ONE WE HAVE IS THE SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS COMMISSIONERS ACOSTA AND GREENBURG. 
          AND WE HAVE ROOM FOR ONE OTHER PERSON ON SMALLER AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE IF SOMEONE'S INTERESTED IN SERVING. 
          IS THERE ONLY ONE INTERESTED? I'M INTERESTED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? NOPE. 
          DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER COOSA MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. 
          ALL THOSE IN PAPER SAY AYE. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          CHAIR COMMISSION LAY. 
          SO JUST FOR, UH, OUR NEW MEMBERS, UM, IN CASE, UM, YOU'RE NOT AWARE THE THESE ARE NOMINEES THAT WILL BE FORWARDED TO COUNSEL? YES. 
          COUNSEL MAKES THE FINAL NOM, UM, APPOINTMENTS, UM, THIS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO, UM, HAVE COUNSEL CONSIDERED AT THEIR, UH, COUNCIL MEETING THIS THURSDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS, CODES AND ORDINANCES. 
          JOINT COMMITTEE. 
          IS THERE A REPORT? COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, YOU'RE IT ? UH, YES. 
          WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY. 
          THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF CHANGES TO SOME OF THE WILDFLOWER WILDFIRE URBAN INTERFACE CODE. 
          UM, THE WAY I WOULD PUT IT IS THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS TO USE THE LOCAL AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT MAP INSTEAD OF THE UM, NATIONAL MAP. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THAT HAS SOME PLANNING COMMISSIONERS RAISE CONCERNS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGE WAS, UM, TO INCREASE THE LOCATIONS WEST OF LAVACA WHERE THE, UM, DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM WAS ALLOWED. 
          UM, AS LONG AS IT'S STILL ADHERED TO CAPITAL VIEW QUARTERS. 
          AND, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION NURSE EXPANDED THAT BEYOND WHAT COUNCIL RESOLUTION HAD, UM, WANTED. 
          WE'LL SEE IT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT. 
          SO MAYBE THEY, IT SURPRISES ME BECAUSE I THINK OF THOSE THINGS AS COUNCIL POLICY RATHER THAN CODES AND ORDINANCE IS TO MAKE POLICY. 
          BUT UM, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. 
          SO IS THAT USUALLY LIKE SHARED HERE BEFORE? SO ALL THE JOINT COMMITTEES HAVE THREE FROM THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION? AS LONG AS WE'RE FULLY STAFFED MM-HMM. 
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 AND FOUR FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT I MEAN THE ITEMS THAT YOU JUST WENT OVER YEAH. 
          WE'LL HAVE GENERALLY WE GO THROUGH THE LAST TIME. 
          NO, THOSE ITEMS WON'T COME TO US. 
          THEY ONLY GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT'S KIND OF IRONIC FOR THE WILDLIFE INTERFACE BECAUSE OUR COMMISSION IS THE ONE THAT SEES THOSE CASES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY'RE PRETTY IMPORTANT CASES AND THERE'S A LOT OF UM, CODE RELATED TO WILDLIFE INTERFACE, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE. 
          WE HAVE A MEETING ON THURSDAY AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT THE BIKE ROLL WALK PLAN. 
          , WHICH WE'VE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT. 
          UM, SMALL AREA PLANNING, JOINT COMMITTEE COMMISSIONERS, A COSTA OR GREENBERG, ANYTHING THERE? WE HAVE NOT MET IN SOME TIME. 
          UM, BUT I HOPE WE DO BECAUSE, UH, GIVEN OUR FIRST CASE THIS, THIS AFTERNOON, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ABOUT THE SMALLER AREA TOWN IN THE CITY AND HOW THEY RELATE TO THIS COMMISSION. 
          OH, AND CAN I JUST SAY AS A FORMER MEMBER OF THAT IT WAS A, FROM, YOU KNOW, GAZILLION YEARS AGO. 
          IT WAS ORIGINALLY ACTUALLY A GAZILLION. 
          YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT . 
          UM, BUT WE WERE HOPING TO COME UP WITH MORE, IT WAS GONNA BE AN INTERFACE WHERE WE WOULD ALL COME UP TOGETHER WITH WHERE THERE WAS GONNA BE MORE PLANNING AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS SUGGESTED A WHILE BACK FOR, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WAS COMMISSIONER KING AT THE TIME. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          YOU DON'T NEED IT. 
          JUST ADJOURN. 
          THE POWER OF THE CHAIR. 
          WE'RE ADJOURNED. 
          , I THINK HOUR. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING EVERYONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD SEEING YOU CARRIE. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. 
          I DON'T NEED NO FORTUNE. 
          I DON'T NEED THAT'S YOU.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.