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NOW 6:10 PM

[CALL TO ORDER]

IT IS MONDAY, MARCH 27TH, AND I'M CALLING THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE DESIGN COMMISSION TO ORDER.

UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION FOR ITEM FIVE WILL HAPPEN BEFORE ITEM FIVE.

SILENCE PLEASE.

UM, SO ITEM FIVE, SPEAKERS, YOU'LL BE SPEAKING BEFORE THAT AGENDA POINT.

UM, JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING NOTES FOR COMMISSION MEMBERS, PLEASE FILL OUT THE ATTENDANCE VERIFICATION FORM THAT SOPHIA SENDS OUT BEFORE THE MEETING.

I THINK WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.

UM, SO WE'RE BARELY MAKING QUORUM.

IT'S A CHALLENGING TIME AS WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS APPOINTED.

UM, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE QUORUM, THERE'S NO POINT IN ALL OF US HIKING DOWN TO THE PERMIT CENTER.

AND ESPECIALLY FOR OUR APPLICANTS, HAVING ALL OF THEIR DESIGN STAFF COME OUT IS EXPENSIVE, UM, TO DO IF WE DON'T HAVE QUORUM.

SO PLEASE FILL IT OUT IF YOU CAN COME.

IF YOU CANNOT COME, JUST SO WE KNOW IN THE FUTURE IF WE DO NOT HAVE QUORUM, WE'LL CANCEL IN ADVANCE.

UM, BUT WE NEED YOUR ATTENDANCE SHEET.

UM, SO WHEN SOPHIA SENDS OUT THAT FORM, THAT IS IMPORTANT TO FILL OUT, UM, IF YOU ARE ATTENDING, UM, IF YOU CAN ATTEND IN PERSON, IT'S HELPFUL TO THE CONVERSATION, UM, TO REALLY READ EACH OTHER SO WE'RE NOT TALKING OVER EACH OTHER AND, AND REALLY PICK UP ALL THE INFORMATION.

UM, FOR NEW COMMISSIONERS, FOR ALL COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THE CHAIR CALLS UPON YOU.

UM, THIS CALLS IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF THE NOTES, ALL OF THE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS ARE PICKED UP.

UM, AND SO WE REALLY NEED ORDER FOR THAT.

UM, PEOPLE ONLINE, I TRY TO CALL ON YOU.

PLEASE BE PATIENT IF I DON'T SEE YOUR HAND RIGHT AWAY.

UM, ALRIGHT.

UH, ITEM ONE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UH, DID EVERYONE REVIEW THE MINUTES? DO WE HAVE A MOTION CHAIR WEAVER, IF I MAY? I, I THINK WE NEED TO DO THE ROLL CALL.

OH, THANK YOU.

DO YOU MIND CALLING? ROLL? SURE.

CHAIR WEAVER.

PRESENT.

UM, COMMISSIONER CAROL? PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER SALINAS PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER FRANCO.

MS. ABSENT, UH, COMMISSIONER LADNER.

COMMISSIONER TANA GCI.

PRESENT.

PRESENT.

SORRY, I WAS MUTED.

.

THANK YOU.

UM, VICE CHAIR MINORS HERE.

UM, COMMISSIONER ROLLON.

ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER COLEMAN.

COMMISSIONER WATLEY.

COMMISSIONER LUKINS PRESENT.

OKAY, MOVING ON.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

AGENDA ITEM ONE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER TANA GUCCI.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, APPROVE THE MEETING.

MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY ARE APPROVED.

ITEM TWO,

[2. Staff briefing regarding Project Connect updates. Presented by Lindsay Wood and Peter Mullan, Austin Transportation Department.]

STAFF BRIEFINGS, UH, OF THE PROJECT CONNECTS, PRESENTED BY LINDSEY WOOD AND PETER MULLEN.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

UM, I'LL, I'LL INTRODUCE MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES BRIEFLY AND, AND THEN WE'RE EXCITED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE AUSTIN LIGHT RAIL.

UH, I AM LINDSEY WOOD, THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT FOR AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP, AND I HAVE MY COLLEAGUE PETER MULLEN JOINING ME VIRTUALLY PETER, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

THANKS, LINDSAY.

UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

THIS IS, UH, PETER MULLEN.

NICE TO SEE YOU ALL.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WE, UH, PAOLO, UH, FARIA, WHO IS OUR SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN DESIGN AND GIANNIS BANKS WITH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHO ARE WE? UH, AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP IS THE ENTITY THAT, UH, IS, WAS CREATED BY THE VOTERS TO INDEPENDENTLY, UM, IMPLEMENT AND DELIVER AUSTIN LIGHT RAIL.

SO WE ARE COMING TO

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YOU TODAY WITH AN UPDATE IN OUR PLANNING PROCESS TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING NEXT.

AND YOU CAN ADVANCE THE SLIDES, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO WHAT IS LIGHT RAIL? JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND HERE.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A, A SYSTEM OF LIGHT RAIL IN AUSTIN THAT WOULD BE A, A HAVE DIFFERENT COVERAGE AREAS TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH AND THE EAST.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IF, IF IT WERE A LITTLE LARGER, UH, WE ARE MOSTLY STREET RUNNING WITH SOME POSSIBLE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.

AND REALLY LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN CONNECT WITH THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT AND CONNECTING THE LIGHT RAIL WITH OUR PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FACILITIES, WHILE ALSO SHARING, UM, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND, AND BEING ALONGSIDE THE STREET NETWORK.

AND NEXT, AND OUR PURPOSE IN THIS PROJECT REALLY IS TO PROVIDE OPTIONS THAT IMPROVE MOBILITY, CONNECTIVITY, AFFORDABILITY, AND SUSTAINABILITY, AND CAN CONTINUE.

SO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, UM, AS, AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE VOTERS, UM, APPROVED A REFERENDUM IN 2020, LATE NOVEMBER, 2020 TO INVEST IN EXPANDING AUSTIN'S TRANSIT SYSTEM.

AND IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF CONTINUING TO PLAN AND ADVANCE THE LIGHT RAIL ELEMENTS OF THAT PROGRAM, WE'VE EXPERIENCED THE SAME COST ESCALATIONS AND INFLATION AND REAL ESTATE COSTS GOING UP.

AS YOU KNOW, REALLY EVERYONE HAS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FROM FAMILIES TO BUSINESSES, TO THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AS WELL.

AND SO IN RESPONSE TO THOSE, WE HAVE DEVELOPED FIVE OPTIONS THAT WE ARE BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY FOR FEEDBACK THAT WORK WITHIN THOSE CONSTRAINTS.

AND ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT FIT WITHIN OUR BUDGET APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN THE 2020 REFERENDUM.

AND NEXT, OH, YOU CAN SKIP THAT ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO EACH OF THESE, UH, WE BELIEVE SERVE THOSE GOALS THAT I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.

AND, AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE, THE CRITERIA, JUST BRIEFLY, THAT SUPPORT THESE OPTIONS CAN GO ONE FURTHER.

UM, SO THE KEY THINGS TO NOTE HERE ARE THAT ALL OF THESE FIT WITHIN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET.

WE HAVE VERIFIED DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES OF HOW TO GET THROUGH DOWNTOWN THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE TODAY.

THAT COULD INCLUDE BEING AT THE STREET LEVEL, BEING UNDERGROUND, BEING ELEVATED, AND, UM, LOOKING AT THE TECHNICAL FEASIBILITY OF THOSE.

AND THEN LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE OPTIONS THROUGH THE LENS OF WHAT WILL BE INVESTIBLE BY OUR FEDERAL FUNDING PARTNER.

THAT IS THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS THEIR OWN SET OF REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO FUND WHAT IS ROUGHLY ANTICIPATED TO BE ABOUT HALF OF OUR PROGRAM COST AND BALANCING THOSE AND, AND AUGMENTING THOSE CRITERIA WITH OUR OWN COMMUNITY VALUES.

AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT AND THOSE COMMUNITY VALUE CRITERIA LISTED HERE FOR MOBILITY, ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES, ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, LAND USE AND HOUSING.

AND WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS IS FINDING THE BEST OPTIONS THAT CONNECT PEOPLE, UM, AFFORDABLY TO WHERE THE, THE KEY DESTINATIONS THEY WANNA GO, AND THOSE KEY OPPORTUNITIES.

SO CONNECTING PEOPLE FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO EMPLOYMENT CENTERS OR TO PLACES OF EDUCATION, UM, AND, AND REALLY CONNECTING OUR COMMUNITY AND IN THOSE PRIORITY AREAS.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA REALLY QUICKLY GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE SO WE CAN JUST KIND OF TAB THROUGH THE FOLLOWING MAPS.

YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT, BIT OF BACKGROUND DATA AND INFORMATION.

EACH OF THE OPTIONS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TODAY ALSO HAVE A MAINTENANCE FACILITY, WHICH IS, UM, A 35 TO 40 ACRE PIECE OF LAND WHERE WE NEED TO LOCATE A FACILITY TO STORE AND MAINTAIN OUR TRAINS.

AND NEXT .

AND EACH OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU SEE HERE, I MENTIONED THERE ARE FIVE.

SO, UH, EACH ONE HAS A DIFFERENT AREA OF COVERAGE.

UH, THERE'S A, THE, YEAH, THERE'S A GLITCH.

UM, IT, IT'S LOOKING VERY SEPARATED.

UM, ALL OF THOSE LINES ACTUALLY COME TOGETHER BUT ARE NOT PROJECTING, RIGHT? SO I'LL TRY TO DESCRIBE IT.

UM, EACH OF THESE OPTIONS HAVE DIFFERENT AREAS OF COVERAGE EXTENDING FARTHER, PERHAPS TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, OR EAST WITH THIS FIRST ONE, UH, RUNNING FROM ABOUT 38TH STREET ALONG NORTH LAMAR DOWN TO OLTORF AT SOUTH CONGRESS AND TO THE EAST ALONG EAST RIVERSIDE.

DRIVE TO ROUGHLY RIVERSIDE AND 71 AT YELLOW JACKET, THOUGH IT, IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THAT MAP.

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UH, AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY THAT YOU CAN SEE INDICATED IN ALL OF THESE MAPS BY THE GREEN CIRCLE WITH THIS ONE BEING NEAR RIVERSIDE AND 71, UM, YOU SEE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO CROSS LADYBIRD LAKE HERE, UH, ONE AT GUADALUPE IN SOUTH FIRST AND THE OTHER BEING AT TRINITY AT THE WATERFRONT CROSSING.

AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING CARRYING BOTH OF THOSE OPTIONS FORWARD INTO OUR, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS PROCESS.

BOTH OF THESE WOULD PRESUME CROSSING DOWNTOWN AT THE STREET LEVEL AND NEXT.

SO EACH OF THESE, I'M REALLY ONLY GOING TO REFERENCE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE, AND WE'RE SEEKING FEEDBACK ON THESE, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COMPARE EACH OF THESE OPTIONS WITH THE NUMBER OF WRITERS, SERVE, NUMBER OF STATIONS, AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT CRITERIA.

AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT.

SO THE NEXT OPTION, UM, AGAIN, THERE ARE APPEAR TO BE GLITCHES ON PROJECTING ALL OF THESE.

UH, BUT THIS ONE EXTENDS FURTHER NORTH, ALL THE WAY UP NORTH LAMAR TO JUST NORTH OF 180 3 AND THEN TO THE EAST AT EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN PLEASANT VALLEY.

AND AGAIN, CROSSING THROUGH DOWNTOWN AT EITHER OF THOSE LOCATIONS AT THE STREET LEVEL.

AND YOU CAN SKIP THROUGH THE NEXT, WE PROVIDED THIS AS BACKUP INFORMATION FOR THE DATA ON EACH OPTION, BUT I WON'T TALK THROUGH THOSE.

UH, THE NEXT ONE BEING A VERY, OH, GO AHEAD.

WELL, I JUST WONDER, SINCE WE SEEM TO BE HAVING A, AN ISSUE WITH THE, I THINK THE TRANSLATION FROM POWERPOINT TO PDF IS, HAS CREATED THIS WEIRD THING.

DO YOU WANT ME TO SHARE MY SCREEN? BECAUSE I CAN PULL UP THE MAPS.

I THINK IF IT MIGHT BE USEFUL FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE ACTUAL, IS THAT POSSIBLE? UM, SORRY, I, I'VE, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SOLVE AN ISSUE WITH OTHER ASPECTS OF THE MEETING, BUT I WILL CEASE STAFF RIGHT NOW.

OH, IT'S NOT POWERPOINT.

IT THE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, OUR MATERIALS DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FILE, BUT PERHAPS, OH, THERE.

SO THAT LOOKS FINE.

SO LEMME GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE OPTIONS.

HOW ABOUT THAT? ALL RIGHT.

SO A A LITTLE BIT.

SLOW ME A SECOND.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

UM, SO THIS, OH, YOU CAN GO ONE MORE THERE.

WE, OKAY.

SORRY.

IT'S, IT'S, THERE MIGHT BE A, SORRY, A DELAY.

YEAH, IT WAS A DELAY.

SORRY.

PETER, DO YOU WANNA JUST GO TO THE OPTION MAP? YEAH, LET ME JUST, LET ME JUST GET OUT OF THIS FOR A SECOND.

CAUSE I THINK IT'S CYCLING ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

WELL, WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, UH, I, WE, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE MAPS FOR REFERENCE.

I'M GOING TO JUST QUICKLY NOTE WHAT, UM, THE LAST REMAINING ONES ARE.

THE VARIATION THERE BEING THE NEXT OPTION REACHES THE AIRPORT FROM DOWNTOWN.

AND WHEN DOING SO, UH, THE LIMITS TO THE NORTH ARE ROUGHLY AT GUADALUPE AND 29TH, AND ALSO CROSSING THROUGH DOWNTOWN AT THE STREET LEVEL.

AND THEN OUR LAST TWO, UM, GO THROUGH DOWNTOWN DIFFERENTLY.

SO INSTEAD OF BEING AT THE STREET LEVEL AND, AND INTERACTING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIANS AND DRIVERS AND BICYCLES AT THAT SAME LEVEL, WE ARE SEPARATED, SO EITHER BEING ELEVATED OR UNDERGROUND.

AND IF ELEVATED PARTIALLY THROUGH DOWNTOWN, ROUGHLY FROM EIGHTH STREET TO THE RIVER, THEN OUR LIMITS, UH, RUN AGAIN FROM ROUGHLY 29TH.

SO JUST NORTH OF UT AND AGAIN, DOWN TO OLTORF TO THE SOUTH ON SOUTH CONGRESS, OR SORRY, UM, ON THIS ONE.

OH, ONE MORE.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, OLTORF TO THE SOUTH ON SOUTH CONGRESS AND EAST TO EAST RIVERSIDE, UH, DRIVE IN 71.

AND THE LAST ONE, ONE MORE FORWARD IS IF WE'RE UNDERGROUND DOWNTOWN, A PORTION OF DOWNTOWN BEING UNDERGROUND IN A SUBWAY, UH, FROM JUST SOUTH OF THE UT CAMPUS, FROM M L K TO EIGHTH STREET.

AND THEN ON AN ELEVATED STRUCTURE, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE HILL ON GUADALUPE AND COMING UP ONTO A BRIDGE TO STAY ELEVATED OVER LADY BIRD LAKE, UM, CAN EXTEND FROM UT TO THAT SAME EASTERN ENDPOINT OF RIVERSIDE AND 71.

ALL RIGHT.

SO PETER, DO YOU WANNA

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TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THESE, UM, SURE.

COULD EACH LOOK THROUGH DOWNTOWN? YEAH.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE, THE NEW OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE BEEN STUDYING, UM, AS A WAY TO OPTIMIZE THE PROGRAM IS BEING, UM, ON THE STREET OR AT GRADE, UH, IN DOWNTOWN.

SO, UM, WE'VE GOT JUST SOME VIEWS OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, AS WELL AS THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING ELEVATED DOWNTOWN.

SO THIS IS A, A VIEW LOOKING WEST ON THIRD STREET, UM, FROM ABOUT SAN JACINTO.

UM, SO THIS IS IN THE, THE, YOU KNOW, AS WE SAID, THERE ARE TWO WAYS WE CAN POTENTIALLY CROSS THE RIVER IN THESE NEW OPTIONS, EITHER ON THE EAST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN OR ON THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

UM, EITHER AT TRINITY STREET ON THE EAST STORE AT BASICALLY GUADALUPE ON THE WEST.

UM, AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY, THIS VIEW WOULD BE WITH THE EASTERN RIVER CROSSING.

UM, ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING AT TOWARDS PUBLIC SQUARE, UH, LOOKING NORTHWEST FROM FOURTH AND GUADALUPE, UM, THIS VIEW WOULD APPLY THE EITHER RIVER CROSSING OPTION.

UM, AND SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, IN, YOU KNOW, WE, IN THIS CONFIGURATION AS WELL AS ON THIRD STREET, THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UM, ONE LANE OF, UH, TRAFFIC ON EITHER SIDE OF THE LIGHT RAIL GUIDEWAY.

UM, IN BOTH OPTIONS, THE LIGHT RAIL GUIDEWAY IS, IS DEDICATED TO LIGHT RAIL TO, FOR PURPOSES OF PROVIDING, UH, TRANSIT EFFICIENCY AND ALSO SAFETY.

UH, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT SOME PRECEDENCE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW STREET RUNNING LIGHT RAIL HAS BEEN EMPLOYED IN OTHER CITIES AROUND THE WORLD.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF, OF, OF DETAILS TO BE FURTHER STUDIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT EXTRA LANE OF, OF TRAFFIC, UH, COULD BE USED OR SHOULD BE USED.

SO THAT'S MORE, MORE TO COME ON THAT.

UM, ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES WE, IS, THAT'S INCLUDED IN SOME OF THE OPTIONS, UM, IS THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING, UH, ELEVATED THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

SO THIS IS, I GUESS THE SAME VIEW LOOKING TOWARDS REPUBLIC SQUARE WITH THE ELEVATED STRUCTURE, UM, AND LOOKING TOWARDS, UH, THE ELEVATED STATION, UH, ADJACENT TO REPUBLIC SQUARE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, STAIRS COMING DOWN FROM THE, THE PLATFORM CENTER RUNNING.

UM, IN THIS CASE, WE'RE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY GET ONE ADDITIONAL LANE IN GUADALUPE.

SO IN THIS CASE, WE'RE SHOWING A DEDICATED BUS LANE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE G WAY, AND THEN TWO TRAFFIC LANES ON THE EAST SIDE.

UM, BUT YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE OF, UH, HOW THAT ELEVATED STRUCTURE WILL LOOK DOWNTOWN.

AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME EFFICIENCIES REGARDING, UH, YOU KNOW, SEPARATING THE LIGHT RAIL FROM OTHER MOBILITY MODES.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DOES HAVE SOME VISUAL IMPACT ON THE URBAN REALM, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT.

UH, THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE ELEVATED, UH, STRUCTURE, WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT DESIGNED YET, BUT JUST AN IDEA TAKE BASED ON PRECEDENCE FROM OTHER STRUCTURES.

UM, TYPICAL, UH, ELEVATED LIGHT RAIL STRUCTURES, UH, LOOKING SOUTH FROM FOURTH STREET.

UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT MIGHT FUNCTION WITH THE, THE REST OF THE MODES AND THE, UM, THE URBAN STREET SCAPE.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, THE STREET RUNNING OPTIONS FOR HOW TO CROSS THE RIVER.

ONE IS, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE OF TRINITY STREET WHERE WE WERE PREVIOUSLY CROSSING, UH, WITH THE BRIDGE.

UM, SO THIS IS A VIEW OF THAT BRIDGE LOOKING TO THE WEST.

AND SO THE ALIGNMENT IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AND PLAN FROM WHAT WE HAD BEFORE.

UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRANSITIONING TO A TUNNEL, UM, WE WOULD BE PROPOSING IN THIS OPTION, RIGHT, TO TRANSITION FROM A BRIDGE TO RUNNING AT ON THE STREET, UM, ONCE WE GET TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LAKE.

SO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LAKE IS TO YOUR RIGHT, UM, THAT BRIDGE WOULD THEN BASICALLY SORT OF TRANSITION AT THE TOP OF THE, OF THE SLOPE TO AT GRADE.

AND THEN YOU COULD SEE THE TRAIL, UH, BASICALLY IT'S BE ABLE TO RUN UNDERNEATH THAT STRUCTURE AND CONTINUE EASTWEST UNIMPEDED.

UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OTHER RIVER CROSSING ON THE SOUTH SIDE ON THE, SORRY, ON THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN, THERE ARE, AGAIN, DIFFERENT OPTIONS ABOUT HOW TO BE ORGANIZED, UH, VERTICALLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPTION WHERE WE EXTEND THE ELEVATED STRUCTURE, UM, FROM THE BRIDGE, UH, ACROSS THE LAKE ONTO THE SOUTH SIDE, AND STAY ELEVATED ACROSS SOUTH FIRST.

UM, AFTER WE MAKE THAT TURN ACROSS SOUTH FIRST, AND THEN WE COME DOWN TRANSITION TO BEING AT GRADE, UM, BETWEEN BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AND CONGRESS, SORT OF IN THAT BOW TIE AREA, YOU CAN SEE SOME IMAGES OF, OF THAT ON THE RIGHT.

UM, ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO BASICALLY TO BE, UH, TRANSITIONED FROM THE BRIDGE TO RUNNING, UM, ON STREET LEVEL BEFORE WE GET TO SOUTH FIRST STREET.

UM, SO THEN BASICALLY CROSSING

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THE SOUTH FIRST UPGRADE AND THE CONTINUING UPGRADE WITH AN UPGRADE STATION, UM, BETWEEN BARNES SPRINGS ROAD AND COMMERCE AVENUE.

SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME, SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT THAT APPLY AND WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS OF HOW THEY GET THROUGH DOWNTOWN MIGHT LOOK LIKE OR HOW THEY WOULD BE ORGANIZED.

UM, AND AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO GET FEEDBACK AND DIALOGUE ABOUT IN THIS PERIOD.

AND SPEAKING OF THIS PERIOD, WE ARE IN AN OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THAT KICKED OFF MARCH 21ST WITH OUR, UM, IN-PERSON OPEN HOUSE.

AND THAT COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE OPEN FOR THE NEXT SIX WEEKS TO MAY 2ND.

WE'LL BE HOSTING A VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE ON APRIL 6TH, AS NOTED HERE.

AND ALL OF OUR MATERIALS, UM, THOUGH UNCORRUPTED ARE ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE, BOTH AT THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP WEBSITE AND THE PROJECT CONNECT.COM WEBSITE, UH, WHERE EVERYTHING IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW AND COMMENT.

SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU MS. WOODS.

AND THANK YOU MR. MULLEN.

UM, WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMING TO DESIGN COMMISSION.

DO YOU MIND CLARIFYING WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING FROM US TONIGHT? SO WE ARE IN A PROCESS THAT IS CALLED PROJECT DEVELOPMENT IN A, IT'S A FEDERALLY FUNDED, WHEN WE ARE SEEKING FEDERAL FUNDING, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH VERY PRESCRIPTIVE STEPS.

AND IN PROJECT DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE APPROACHING A, LET'S CALL IT, UM, ADVANCED CONCEPTUAL, OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A 15% DESIGN LEVEL AS OUR NEXT MILESTONE.

AND WE ARE SEEKING OUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE FEEDBACK ON THESE FIVE OPTIONS BECAUSE ONLY ONE OF THESE OPTIONS WILL BE ADVANCED FORWARD INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS AS PART OF NPA, AND WE WILL BE PREPARING AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT ON THAT ONE LOCALLY PREFERRED OPTION TO ADVANCE FORWARD.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

UM, THAT'S HELPFUL IN KIND OF FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, A LOT OF THESE TRAIN STATIONS, I WOULD ASSUME ARE COMBINED WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT IS THE CONVERSATION WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, UM, AND HOW, HOW, HOW IS THAT ENGAGEMENT PROCESS? PETER, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT OUR APPROACH TO JOINT DEVELOPMENT? SURE.

SO, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO LOCATE STATIONS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO UTILIZE, UM, PUBLICLY OWNED LAND WHEREVER WE CAN.

UH, THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO COLLABORATE WITH, UM, OUR ADJACENT PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS TO ENHANCE WHATEVER THE OVERALL, THE EVENTUAL CONFIGURATION OF THIS, OF THE STATION IS AND COULD BE.

UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S VERY CONTEXT SPECIFIC, UM, AND DEPENDS A LOT ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE, WHERE THE STATION'S LOCATED AND THE ADJACENCIES.

BUT THE IDEA BEING THAT LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC REALM, THE CONFIGURATION OF THE PUBLIC REALM TO CREATE, UH, REALLY A SEAMLESS, UH, EXPERIENCE OF THIS NEW MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND I THINK LOOKING FOR, TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR PARTNERS WHEREVER AND WHENEVER WE CAN, BUT ALSO KNOWING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENT OF WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR MAY OR MAY OUT TO.

MOST OF OUR STATIONS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

SO OUR LIGHT RAIL GENERALLY RUNS KIND OF LIKE, IF YOU THINK OF WHERE A MEDIAN MIGHT, UM, NORMALLY BE, THAT'S WHERE THE TRACKS WOULD BE.

WHEN WE HAVE A STATION, THERE'S A PLATFORM AND THAT PLATFORM CAN BE ACCESSED BY, UH, THE CROSSWALKS AT WHATEVER THE NEAREST INTERSECTION ARE.

SO YOU, YOU KIND OF GO TO THE STREETLIGHT, GO INTO THE CROSSWALK, WALK INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, AND THAT'S WHERE THE PLATFORM IS BETWEEN THE, THE TWO TRACKS IS IN MOST CASES.

THANK YOU.

UH, ONE MORE QUESTION FROM ME AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY UPDATING THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHICH ARE USED ON DENSITY BONUS PROJECTS.

UM, BUT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON MAKING THAT PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE ACTIVATED, UM, AS MUCH AS WE CAN, TRYING TO GET, UH, PRIVATE

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LAND OWNERS TO REALLY ACTIVATE THE GROUND FLOOR WITH COMMERCIAL SPACE, UM, AND MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS ENGAGED AND THAT DOWNTOWN FEELS LIKE IT BELONGS TO EVERYONE.

WHEN I SEE THE ELEVATED LIGHT RAIL, UM, I MEAN I GUESS IT FITS WITH OUR PARKING PODIUM CITY THAT WE'RE BUILDING, UH, .

WHAT, WHAT IS REALLY DRIVING THE ELEVATED TRACKS AND, UM, WHERE, WHERE IS THAT CONVERSATION? UM, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO FIRST I WOULD NOTE THAT THAT IS GOOD FEEDBACK.

WE APPRECIATE THAT AND, AND WELCOME, UM, MAKING COMMENTS IN THIS PERIOD TO, TO HELP US REALLY WEIGH THE TRADE OFFS FOR THOSE DIFFERENT WAYS OF GETTING THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

WHAT DROVE THE INTRODUCTION OF AN ELEVATED OPTION IS THAT WE HAVE LIMITED SPACE TO WORK WITH, AND THE FOOTPRINT FOR THE TRANSIT WAY FOR THE LIGHT RAIL, UM, OUTSIDE OF STATION AREAS IS, IS CLOSE TO 30 FEET.

AND THEN AT THE STATIONARY IS WE ALSO, WE HAVE TO WIDEN THAT OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY ANOTHER 20 FEET.

SO WE CAN JUST FOR ROUND NUMBERS, SAY, CALL IT 50, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO FIT A STATION PLATFORM.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT WE'RE IN VERY CONSTRAINED AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY AND WHAT WE CAN FIT IN THE REMAINING SPACE BECOMES LIMITED FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, FOR BUSES, FOR, UM, OUR BACK OF CURB FACILITIES FOR PROTECTED BIKEWAYS AND SIDEWALKS AND REALLY CREATING THAT ACTIVATED SPACE YOU MENTIONED.

SO AN ELEVATED OPTION HELPS REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT AT THE STREET LEVEL FOR THE LIGHT RAIL, UM, WHERE WE ONLY NEED TO FIT SORT OF THE, THE COLUMN FOR THE STRUCTURE VERSUS 50 FEET OF INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE STREET LEVEL.

UM, BUT THAT, THAT TRADE OFF IS NOW RATHER THAN PEOPLE SORT OF, UM, ACCESSING THE STATIONS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE FROM THE SIDEWALK OR THE CROSSWALK.

AND, UM, NOW NEED TO USE STAIRS OR ESCALATORS OR ELEVATORS TO GET UP AND DOWN FROM THAT.

AND, AND THERE ARE THE VISUAL IMPACTS AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE TRADE OFFS THERE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY SEPARATING THE LIGHT RAIL FROM THE STREET LEVEL DOES HAVE, UM, OPERATIONS BENEFITS FOR THE LIGHT RAIL, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO INTERACT WITH THE STREET INTERSECTIONS AND, UM, AND CROSSINGS GOING THROUGH THERE AND, AND TRAFFIC AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER GUCCI, OH, SORRY, MR. MARTIN, YOU SPEAKING? NO, NO, I JUST, I THINK YOU ZEROED IN ON, YOU KNOW, A CRITICAL TENSION AND TRADE OFF IN TERMS OF THE OPTIONS.

AND SO IT'S EXACTLY THE, THE, THE THING THAT WE WANT TO HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT.

SO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSION, GUCCI.

YEAH, THIS IS VERY EXCITING TO ME AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UH, THERE, I GOT TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE OF 'EM IS BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE AUTHORS THAT THE IMAGINE AUSTIN, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT OR ORIENTED DESIGN, AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY MENTION AS TO HOW MANY OF THOSE, UH, THOSE TRANSIT-ORIENTED DISTRICTS WERE GONNA BE INCLUDED IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

THE SECOND THING I'M GONNA TOUCH ON LATER IS I'M KIND OF LIKE, UH, REALLY BEEN RESEARCHING THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE IN JAPAN.

AND I TOOK A TRIP OVER THERE JUST RECENTLY, ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO, AND I WAS JUST INFATUATED WITH WHAT THEY HAVE THERE.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF STUFF ABOVE GROUND, UH, BELOW GROUND.

AND IN THE STATIONS LIKE JEN HAD, UH, REFERRED TO EARLIER.

THE STATIONS ARE VERY CRITICAL TO KIND OF THE SUCCESS OF THAT, CUZ THAT'S ACTUALLY A PLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY NOT ONLY CATCHES OR SWITCHES TRANSPORTATION MOATS, BUT THEY ALSO DO THE SHOPPING THERE.

THEY DO THEIR DINING THERE, AND THAT'S ALL VERY EXCITING.

SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS ABOUT IMAGINE AUSTIN THE TODS.

HOW DOES THIS TIE INTO THAT KIND OF LIKE THAT MAP THAT WE HAD CREATED BACK THEN? YES.

SO ACTUALLY THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED AN AN UPDATED TRANSIT OR ACTUALLY EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT POLICY PLAN THAT WILL SUPPORT LOOKING AT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS ALONG, UM, THE, WE'RE WILLING THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.

UH, WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE LIGHT RAIL ELEMENTS, BUT, BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHER MODES CONNECTING TO IT, INCLUDING METRO RAPID AND, UM, COMMUTER RAIL AS WELL.

BUT IN REFERENCE TO THE LIGHT RAIL, UM, THOSE ARE BEING STUDIED, THERE ARE VARIOUS PLANNING GRANTS ALSO FUNDED BY, UM, THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT EQUITABLE.

SO WITH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT, TRANSIT ORIENTED DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATION AREAS OF THE LIGHT RAIL.

SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS AND, AND THE CITY JUST ADOPTED THAT POLICY PLAN.

OKAY.

YES, HONOR, I THINK YOUR, I THINK YOUR COMMENT ABOUT, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF STATIONS, THE ROLE THAT STATIONS HAVE AS, AS, LET'S JUST SAY NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, RIGHT? THAT CAN PROVIDE,

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UM, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A MULTIPLICITY OF USES, WHETHER THAT'S INTEGRATED THE STATION OR SURROUNDING THE STATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN, AGAIN, IN PROMOTING AND, AND COLLABORATING WITH, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO PROVIDE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, THE E T O D POLICY PLAN IS, IS CERTAINLY HELPS TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT FRAMEWORK AS WELL.

BUT I THINK WHEN WE GET INTO ACTUAL DESIGN, UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CONSIDER OR PROMOTE.

AND WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NEW URBAN DESIGN AND ARCHITECTURE TEAM THAT, FOR WHOM I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT FOCUS.

AND I WANTED TO SAY, PETER, I I APPRECIATE THAT AND, AND I, I DIDN'T SAY ABOUT THE STATIONS, BUT THE STATIONS ARE ACTUALLY THE NETWORK OR THE CONNECTION POINT OF MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION.

MM-HMM.

RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT WHERE THE SUBWAY COMES IN, THAT'S WHERE THE ABOVE AND THE BELOW AND EVERY, THE BUSES ACTUALLY MEET.

SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, THE MULTIMODAL ASPECT OF THAT, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE GONNA, UH, GONNA LOOK AT THAT.

AND THEN THE THING ABOUT THE ABOVE GROUND DEAL, HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE CABLE CA YOU KNOW, THE WHAT, WHATEVER YOU CALL 'EM, LIKE A SKI LIFT OR WHERE THE CABLE'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE, UH, STUFF MEETING THE GROUND.

IT'S, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THAT, BUT IT'S LIKE A SKI LIFT KIND OF APPROACH.

SO THERE'S A GONDOLA, BUT THAT'S ONE, ONE SKILL IS GODLESS.

UM, MAYBE, MAYBE LINDSAY COULD TALK ABOUT, I FEEL LIKE GODLESS RESURFACED AS A PUBLIC CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, ONCE A YEAR, RIGHT? EVERYBODY COMES IN LIKE, WHAT ABOUT GONDOLAS? GOLAS ARE, ARE PARTICULARLY GREAT WHEN WE HAVE LOTS OF TOPOGRAPHY, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY, CUZ IT'S A WAY TO NAVIGATE THAT.

UM, THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED, I THINK A HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT OPTION, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT APPLES AND ORANGES.

UM, THERE IS AN INCREDIBLE, UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CALLED LIGHT RAIL, BUT THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE SYSTEM IN WOOER TALL GERMANY, UM, WHERE THE STORE, THE TRAINS ARE ACTUALLY HUNG FROM A STRUCTURE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKE TRAIN CARS.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE ONLY ONE LIKE IT IN THE WORLD AND I DON'T THINK WE WE'RE, WANTED TO BUILD A ONE-OFF OURSELVES.

SO WE'RE A, WE'RE A TWO OFF.

SO, UM, WE'RE STICKING WITH, YOU KNOW, SORT OF CONVENTIONAL, AT LEAST, UH, LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM.

OKAY.

AND I PLEASE ADDRESS SOME THANK YOU VERY MUCH, A LITTLE BIT.

THANK TWO.

SO EARLY PLANNING THAT WENT INTO THIS INCLUDED ESTIMATING THE NUMBER OF RIDER THAT WOULD USE THE SYSTEM, AND EACH OF THESE FIVE OPTIONS THAT WE SHOWED YOU TODAY, UM, SERVE A, A VARIED NUMBER OF WRITERS THAT RANGES ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 20,000 ON AN AVERAGE WEEKDAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, PICK A TUESDAY, NOT A SPECIAL EVENT, JUST A, AN AVERAGE TUESDAY, UM, TO ABOUT 40,000 RIDER A DAY.

AND, AND LIGHT RAIL REALLY IS THE BEST MODE TO SERVE THAT HIGH VOLUME AND CAPACITY OF PEOPLE MOST EFFICIENTLY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR MINS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE PROPOSALS IN PARTICULAR, I BELIEVE IT'S PROPOSAL TWO THAT IS, UH, HYPOTHETICALLY GOING TO THE NORTH LAMAR TRANSIT CENTER.

UM, I LIVE IN THIS T O D SO, YOU KNOW, JUST FULL DISCLOSURE THERE, UH, IN THE, THE CRESTVIEW JUSTIN LANE AREA.

UM, SO I THINK THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE COMPLICATIONS FOR THAT SECTION INCLUDE THE STATE OWNED LAND ON LAMAR, UH, AS WELL AS THE EXISTING METRO RAIL RED LINE TRACKS.

UM, NOW I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS WHY YOU ALL HAVEN'T LOOKED AT, AND MAYBE YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY HAVING THAT TERMINUS JUST SOUTH OF THE METRO RAIL STATION, UM, YOU KNOW, RYAN DRIVE, THEY'RE REDEVELOPING THAT LAND, UH, AND TRYING TO DO IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS PROJECT CONNECT.

UM, SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OR IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOOK AT, UM, POTENTIALLY LOWERING THE BURDEN OF THE REGULATION, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, THE STATE AND THEN POTENTIALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH THE, WITH THE RAIL BY JUST LOCATING THAT TERMINUS SOUTH OF METRO RAIL IN THE CRESTVIEW STATION AREA? YES, WE DID LOOK AT THAT OPTION AND, AND EVEN SOME OTHER VARIATIONS OF, UM, A NORTHERN TERMINUS BEING, YOU KNOW, SOUTH OF CRESTVIEW, MAYBE KIG OR, UM, OR OR TRIANGLE OR 45TH STREET, DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF THAT CONCEPT.

AND GENERALLY WHAT DRIVES OUR REQUIREMENTS ON THAT ARE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A VIABLE MAINTENANCE FACILITY IN THIS INITIAL CORE SYSTEM.

UM, SO WHILE THIS SYSTEM WILL BE EXPANDED UPON IN THE FUTURE, UM, IN, IN LATER PHASES, WE, WE MUST HAVE A MAINTENANCE FACILITY IN THE INITIAL PHASE.

AND REALLY THE TWO OPTIONS ARE EITHER AT NORTH LAMAR TRANSIT CENTER OR THAT AREA NEAR RIVERSIDE AND 71.

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SO IF WE AREN'T REACHING NORTH LAMAR TRANSIT CENTER, OUR MAINTENANCE FACILITY OPTION BECOMES THE RIVERSIDE IN 71.

AND BECAUSE OF HOW FAR, UH, KIND OF OUT THAT IS LOCATED, OUR REACH WITHIN, LET US GO FURTHER NORTH THAN ABOUT 38TH TO MAYBE 45TH STREET.

AND, AND WE, WE CAN'T REALLY, THE, THOSE FACILITIES I MENTIONED ARE, UM, DIFFICULT TO LOCATE CLOSER INTO THE CORE, GIVEN THE SIZE AND AND NATURE OF THOSE FACILITIES.

THOSE ARE THE CLOSEST IN THAT WE CAN GET THEM WITH THE AMOUNT OF LAND AND, AND COMPATIBLE LAND USE AND OTHER, UM, FEATURES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THOSE FACILITIES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YEAH, I WOULD ADD, I WOULD ADD ALSO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, A REALLY SIGNIFICANT POPULATION OF OF CORE TRANSIT USERS, UM, YOU KNOW, AROUND, IN NORTH OF THE NORTH LAMAR TRANSIT CENTER.

SO WE FELT LIKE IF WE'RE GETTING, I MEAN, IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING THAT LINDSAY SAID ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, UM, WE FELT LIKE IF WE GOT AS FAR AS CRESTVIEW, WE REALLY SHOULD GET ALL THE WAY TO 180 3 SO WE COULD SERVE THAT COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT INFORMED, UM, THAT THAT OPTION.

THANK YOU.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER CAROL, I, I'M SORRY, CAN I INTERJECT FOR A SECOND? OUR COMMISSIONERS AND GUESTS THAT ARE JOINING ONLINE, IF YOU DON'T MIND MUTING YOUR MICROPHONE WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, APPARENTLY WE'RE GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM AT XN.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CAROL.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, SO ON THESE OPTIONS, THIS SLIDES ALL SAY 5,000 RIDER.

THAT MEANS EVERY OPTION IS CALCULATED TO SERVE THE SAME RIDERSHIP.

NO, UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

THE 5,000 WRITERS MEANS EACH ONE OF THOSE LITTLE BLUE PEOPLE, THE SYMBOLS IS EQUAL TO 5,000 RIDER.

SO REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT OF MATH, UH, TO MULTIPLY OUT THE NUMBER OF LITTLE BLUE SYMBOLS SHOWN THAT EACH REPRESENTS 5,000.

SO IT'S MEANT TO SHOW A TOTAL SCALE.

YOU'LL SEE ONE OPTION THAT, UM, ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE BLUE, AND THEN YOU SEE OTHER ONES WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF EMPTY PEOPLE TOWARD THE END OF THAT SCALE.

THAT HELPS YOU SEE, UM, HOW EACH OPTION RELATES TO THE OPTION WITH THE MOST WRITERS, THE ONE WITH THE MOST, WHERE THEY'RE ALL SHADED BLUE IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 40,000 PER DAY.

AND THE, THE ONE WITH THE LOWEST NUMBER IS AROUND 20,000 PER DAY.

BUT THAT IS GOOD FEEDBACK.

WE HAVE HEARD THAT, UM, FROM MULTIPLE PLACES AND ARE WORKING ON PROVIDING BETTER CLARITY AROUND THOSE FIGURES.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

UH, OTHER QUESTION IS, I MEAN, THIS, THIS WHOLE PROJECT OR, OR WHAT'S LEFT OF IT WON'T BE ABLE TO BE COMPLETE WITH USING JUST PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

SO WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR ACQUIRING PRIVATE LAND TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN? SO WE WILL GO THROUGH, AS PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS, WE MUST GO THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE EFFORTS AND RECEIVE, UM, A COMPLETION AND BASICALLY A RECORD OF DECISION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS NOTED FOR THE PROJECT BEFORE WE CAN ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THEN WE WILL FOLLOW THE UNIFORM ACT, WHICH IS, IS FOR ALL FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS FOR ALL REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION, UM, WHICH INCLUDES RELOCATION SUPPORT SERVICES FOR, UH, ANY, ANY DISPLACEMENT THAT COULD OCCUR.

GENERALLY, MOST OF, UM, SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ALONG EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE, MOST OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IMPACTS ARE NOT DISPLACEMENT.

THERE'S, THERE'S A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF THEM ALONG THAT PART OF THE CORRIDOR, AND THEY'RE, UM, SLIVERS OF PRIVATE, UM, PROPERTY WHERE WE NEED PERHAPS TO HAVE A SIDEWALK EASEMENT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE BUILDING IS NOT JUST THE LIGHT RAIL INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S ALSO THE SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES, UM, ANY STREET RECONSTRUCTION NEEDED AND RELOCATIONS OF UTILITIES THAT WOULD CONFLICT WITH THE LIGHT RAIL, WHICH IN, IN SOME CASES REQUIRES AN EASEMENT IN THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND SO THIS SCALED BACK VERSION IS OBVIOUSLY DUE TO COST.

MM-HMM.

, DOES YOUR CURRENT BUDGET INCLUDE ACQUIRING THAT, THOSE PROPERTIES? YES, IT DOES.

OKAY.

UH, AND THEN I I JUST WANT TO REITERATE SOMETHING THAT WAS TOUCHED ON EARLIER ABOUT THE ELEVATED, UM, THE ELEVATED RAIL VERSION.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S EXPONENTIALLY,

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UH, MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT AND YOU'RE THEREFORE BUILDING LESS RAIL, UH, YOU KNOW, PER DOLLAR.

UM, BUT AS, UH, CHAIR WEAVER POINTED OUT, THERE'S ALSO AN URBAN DESIGN, UH, ASPECT TO IT.

AND, AND SPECIFICALLY THE INTERACTION WITH PEDESTRIANS AS COMMISSIONER TANA GUCCI POINTED OUT, UH, THE STATIONS THEMSELVES ARE ALSO A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU CATCH A BUS OR YOU TAKE A BIKE AND, AND YOU GO THAT LAST MILE, RIGHT? UM, AND SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO DO AT, AT AN ELEVATED, UH, STATION AND RAIL.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE PLACES WHERE YOU HAVE LESS RIGHT OF WAY TO WORK WITH AND, AND, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO GET PRIVATE LAND.

BUT, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE SINCE WE'RE LIMITED TO, TO THESE CONDENSED PLANS THAT SHOULD BE, UH, PRIORITIZED AS PART OF THE DECISION.

I MEAN, AS YOU SAID, EVEN BETWEEN TWO OPTIONS, THERE'S ONE THAT SERVES TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THAT, THAT'S REALLY INFORMATIVE TO ME.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

WE WILL NOTE THEM OURSELVES, AND WE ALSO WELCOME ALL OF YOU SHOULD YOU WANT TO FORMALLY REGISTER COMMENTS DURING OUR COMMENT PERIOD, UM, THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED THE LINK IN OUR BACKUP MATERIALS TO THOSE.

AND I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT WE ARE HAVING OUR TEAM AS WE SPEAK, UH, REPLACE THOSE BACKUP MATERIALS THAT APPEAR TO HAVE GOTTEN CORRUPTED UPON SUBMITTAL.

SO YOU WILL HAVE ALL OF THE CORRECT MAPS THAT ARE ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU MR. MULLENS.

THANK YOU MS. WOODS, FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU ALL.

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[3. Staff briefing regarding Capitol Dominance Overlay Code Amendment as directed by Council Resolution No. 20220519-087. Presented by Zack Lofton, Housing and Planning Department.]

THREE, UH, STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY CODE AMENDMENT AS DIRECTED BY A COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 25 1 9 DASH 0 8 7.

UM, PRESENTED BY ZACH LOFTON FROM HOUSING AND PLANNING MICROPHONE.

DO I NEED HOLD IT DOWN OR IS IT GOOD? OKAY, GOOD.

Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME.

OKAY.

UM, SO YEAH, THIS IS A STAFF BRIEFING ON THE, THE COMMISSION ACTUALLY ASKED FOR PREVIOUSLY, AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.

SO THIS IS RELATED TO A CODE AMENDMENT FOR THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAID DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY THAT STEMMED FROM COUNCIL'S RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 22 5 19 8 7.

SO YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT LINE.

SO WITH THIS RESOLUTION, UH, COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HOUSING IS NEEDED IN MIXED USE IN TRANSIT RICH AREAS SUCH AS DOWNTOWN, UH, AND THEY ASK STAFF SPECIFICALLY TO EVALUATE POSSIBLE IMPACTS THAT, THAT A, A RESOLUTION LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE ON THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY.

AND SO STAFF ANALYZE MULTIPLE FACTORS FOR POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO THE GENERAL GOALS OF THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY, WHICH IS EXISTING, AS WELL AS MORE RECENT PLANNING EFFORTS.

AND SO A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT RELATED TO THIS, UM, THIS PARTICULAR TASK THAT COUNCIL HAD GIVEN US WERE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY.

WE LOOKED AT WHETHER THE LAND IS PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY HELD.

WE LOOKED AT ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, UH, IN THE URBAN FORM AROUND THESE PROPERTIES.

AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THE PROPENSITY OF SOME OF THESE, THESE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY TO REDEVELOP.

AND THEN FINALLY, AND RELEVANTLY, BASED ON THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WE LOOKED AT FUTURE TRANSIT INVESTMENTS, UH, IN THE AREA AS WELL.

SO ULTIMATELY, STAFF DETERMINED THAT ALLOWING CVC COMPLIANT PROPERTIES WEST OF LAVACA STREET, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP IN JUST A SECOND, UH, NEAR FUTURE TRANSIT LINES ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA, ALLOWING THOSE PROPERTIES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS, UH, PROGRAM COULD ACCOMMODATE INCREASED HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CORE WHILE STILL PRESERVING THE OVERALL INTENT OF THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY.

AND SO WE BELIEVE THESE CHANGES WOULD HAVE ONLY MARGINAL IMPACTS, UM, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IN THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY, THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA IS ALREADY REGULATED BY CAPITAL VIEW CORS.

AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE MAIN INSTRUMENT THAT'S GONNA BE, UM,

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REDUCING THE INTENSITY IN THE AREA IF YOU WANNA THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY.

AND SO IN THE END, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOMORROW NIGHT, UH, AND TO COUNSEL, UH, APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ALLOW PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

SO LONG AS THESE PROPERTIES CONTINUE TO COMPLY WITH THE CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDORS AND CBC OVERLAY DISTRICT WHERE APPLICABLE SPECIFICALLY AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF RESOLUTION.

SO IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THERE'S A MAP SHOWING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER LUKINS, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT, UH, WALK US THROUGH YOUR, WALK US THROUGH THE GRAPHIC.

OKAY.

SO DO YOU WANNA SHOW THE, UM, THE MAP AGAIN? THANK YOU.

SO IN THIS MAP YOU CAN SEE THE CIRCLE THERE IS THE, UM, THE CAPITAL, OR EXCUSE ME, IS THE CAPITAL DOMINANT'S OVERLAY IN THE CENTER OF THE DARK LARGE BUILDING IS THE STATE CAPITAL AND RADIATING FROM THE STATE CAPITAL ARE THE CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDORS.

SO SPECIFICALLY IN THE RESOLUTION THAT, UM, COUNCIL HAD GIVEN US, THEY WANTED US TO LOOK AT PROPERTIES THAT COULD PARTICIPATE IN, UM, THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM THAT ARE CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CAPITAL DOMINANT OVERLAY, WHICH IS THE CIRCLE.

SO PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN GOLD, THOSE PROPERTIES WILL STILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE REGULATIONS OF THE CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDORS.

SO IN SOME AREAS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING REGULATED BY CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDORS, AS WELL AS THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY.

THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WOULD BE THAT THESE PROPERTIES COULD PARTICIPATE IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM SO LONG AS THEY COMPLY.

SO THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY WOULDN'T BE THE REGULATION THAT'S KEEPING THEM FROM, FROM COMPLYING WITH OR, UH, PARTICIPATING IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY GOALS.

SO WHERE ARE THE, UM, BUILDINGS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS? YOU SAID YOU ANALYZED THAT? YEAH, SO WE HAD ANALYZED, UM, I'M NOT GONNA CALL IT SPECIFIC PROPERTY WHERE ALREADY IN THE MAP.

WHAT'S THAT? WHERE ARE THEY ON THE MAP, ROUGHLY? ROUGHLY WEST OF LAVACA STREET, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHT GOLD.

THAT'S WHAT THE DARK GOLD DARK UH, GOLD IS.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE, UM, OKAY.

DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THOSE PROPERTIES WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CDC, SO YOU CAN DEDUCE WHAT YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE WEST OF LAVACA STREET.

GOTCHA.

AND ALSO NOT BEING REGULATED BY CDCS.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, YOU DID.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHY IS THE LINE WEST OF LAVACA? WHY IS IT NOT ALL OF THE CDO? YEAH, SO THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

SPECIFICALLY, WHENEVER WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS IN THIS ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO LOOK OBVIOUSLY WHAT, WHAT ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT STAND TO REDEVELOP? BUT SPECIFICALLY I THINK THE, THE MAIN OVER OVERARCHING ELEMENT TO THIS RECOMMENDATION IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S GONNA BE HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE CAPITAL D IT'S OVERLAY, AND ALLOWING PROPERTIES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CAPITAL, OR EXCUSE ME, IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, WOULD COMPLIMENT FUTURE HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT AND VICE VERSA.

THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT IN ITSELF IS ENOUGH.

UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE REALITY THAT THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY IS THE EXISTING REGULATION, AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK AT.

UM, AND SO MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY, UH, WAS, WAS THE DIRECTION THAT WE GOT FROM COUNCIL.

I GUESS, UM, I'M KIND OF INTERESTED IN WHY LAVACA IS SUCH A HARD LINE, IF, IF THE TRANSIT LINE IS GOING, IS IT ON GUADALUPE OR IS IT LAVACA? UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE, THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION TOO, THAT'S NOT YET CERTAIN.

WE DO KNOW THAT THOSE TRANSIT INVESTMENTS THOUGH WILL BE, UH, WEST OF LAVACA.

OKAY.

WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE IF I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP, THERE'S REALLY THREE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES THAT BENEFIT OUT OF THIS, AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

UM, WHEREAS IF IT WERE BOTH SIDES OF LAVACA, MAYBE YOU COULD GET HIGH DENSITY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE LINE.

WHAT, IS THERE ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION AMONG STAFF ABOUT THAT? THERE HAS, AND SPECIFICALLY THE FACT

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THAT ON THE OTHER, ON THE EAST SIDE OF LAVACA, YOU START ENCROACHING ON A LOT OF THE CAPITAL BUILDINGS AND STATE, STATE OWNED LAND.

I SEE.

AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER BIG PIECE OF, OF HOW WE KIND OF TAILORED THIS RECOMMENDATION.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS, VICE CHAIR MINERS? YES.

UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE, UH, I KNOW THAT IN THIS AREA, UM, THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT HAVE ADOPTED MIXED USE.

UM, CLEARLY IF WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE DENSITY BONUS, UM, WE WOULD LIKELY PUSH FOR THAT.

UM, HOWEVER, UM, THERE'S ONE, UH, KIND OF HIGH PROFILE PROJECT.

UM, IT'S A 32 STORY RESIDENTIAL TOWER, UH, THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED BY EARL STONE PARTNERS, I BELIEVE, UM, ACCORDING TO, TO MY SOURCE.

UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE BUILDING 220 NEW RESIDENCES ON 14TH AND LAVACA.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS FALLS INTO THAT, UH, OVERLAY, UM, BASED ON HOW IT'S PICTURED HERE, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS, UH, IT'S, IT'S AN OLD KIND OF FILLING STATION THAT WAS RECENTLY DEMOLISHED.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS WITH THIS PARTICULAR TOWER, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IF THIS DOES GO UP AS PLANNED, UM, ARE THERE ZONING CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE WORKS? OR IS THIS, UH, I GUESS WHAT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE CONNECTION THERE? ARE THEY, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND IF THEY'RE SEEKING, UM, ANY, UH, CHANGES TO ZONING? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT.

UM, SPECIFICALLY WE WERE FOCUSING THE ANALYSIS ON, ON HOW IT WAS LAID OUT IN THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION.

SO CONSIDERING PROJECTS WAS ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROJECT.

I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET A ZONING CHANGE EITHER, LIKE YOU HAD KIND OF REFERENCED MM-HMM.

.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJ OF THE, UH, PROPERTIES IN THE, THE GOLD AREA ARE CURRENTLY ZONED DMU.

UM, THERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE, UH, ZONED CBD AS WELL, WHICH ARE TWO OF THE MORE COMMON ZONING DESIGNATIONS THAT PURSUE DEVELOPMENT BONUSES THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

SO, OKAY.

YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 14TH AND LAVACA, SO MAYBE IT'S FALLING RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT RANGE.

BUT THEN AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE A 32 STORY TOWER THAT REALLY, UM, ISN'T GONNA BE PARTICIPATING IN THE DENSITY BONUS.

UH, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WOULD BE INCLUDED JUST GIVEN THIS GRAPHIC, OR MAYBE IT WOULD BE PARTIALLY INCLUDED.

IT'S HARD TO TELL.

YEAH.

SO IF, IF IT'S ON THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST CORNER, UHHUH , THEN IT WOULD BE WITHIN THE, UH, THE AREA THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DOWNTOWN NCAA BONUS PROGRAM.

THAT SAID GOTCHA.

THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF DOES NOT DO ANYTHING TO THE CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDORS.

UM, JUST SO THAT'S CLEAR.

THERE'S, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER DISCUSSION.

WE WERE TASKED SPECIFICALLY WITH LOOKING AT PROPERTIES RELATED TO THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY.

UM, YEAH, SO, YEAH, WELL IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, THIS IS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO EFFECT PRETTY SOON IF PEOPLE ARE ALREADY THAT FAR ALONG IN THEIR PLANNING STAGES, CUZ THAT'S ALREADY TAKING ONE OF THESE PARCELS THAT ARE PROPOSED OFF OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL TO BE REDEVELOPED AND REDEVELOPED AFTER IT'S ALREADY BEEN REDEVELOPED.

UM, SO THAT'LL BE YEARS TO COME BEFORE THAT'S APPLICABLE.

SO THAT'S MY, MY 2 CENTS.

THANK YOU.

UM, COMMISSIONER LUKINS, ASK WHY.

I WAS JUST GONNA ASK WHY THE, UH, THE, THE BLOCKS THAT ARE, UH, ADJACENT TO CONGRESS, SETH, THE COBB CAPITAL AREN'T SHOWN AS BEING, UH, UH, YELLOW.

DON'T THEY HAVE ANY, CAN YOU IMAGINE THEM NOT BEING REDEVELOPED? YEAH, I THINK WE, WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT BEING TOO PRESUMPTUOUS.

SO FIRST OFF, A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU KIND OF OUTLINED THERE ARE REALLY SMALL PARCELS.

UM, THE LIKELIHOOD WITH A, WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT OWNERS, UM, WHETHER IT BE PUBLIC-PRIVATE OR JUST SEPARATE PRIVATE OWNERS.

AND SO THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THAT WOULD REDEVELOP INTO SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALISTICALLY PURSUE THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS IS, IS UNLIKELY.

OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT THAT, THAT WAS ANOTHER PIECE.

IN WHAT, IN WHAT SORT OF, UM, OKAY.

CURATED OUR RECOMMENDATION, CORRECT.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CAROL? SO I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY.

ARE YOU SAYING STAFF IS ONLY RECOMMENDING THE PROPERTIES IN THAT GOLD HATCH? THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT COUNSEL ASKED YOU TO DO? CORRECT.

COUNSEL ASKED US TO

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EVALUATE POTENTIAL, UM, THE POTENTIAL OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY, ALLOWING THEM TO PARTICIPATE.

WHAT WOULD THAT DO? WELL, I GUESS IT'S UNCLEAR THEN WHAT CRITERIA YOU USE TO DETERMINE POTENTIAL.

SO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES LEFT OUT ON THE MAP THERE.

YEAH, SO I, I MENTIONED A FEW OF THEM.

SO PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, AS I REFERENCED A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES, SO TO CLEARLY DEFINE, SO THE CAPITAL BUILDING, THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY IS WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE CAPITAL BUILDING.

MM-HMM.

, SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S NOT A TON OF REAL ESTATE, BUT WITHIN THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY, THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLICLY OWNED LANDS, SPECIFICALLY STATE OWNED LAND.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

SOME OF THOSE, UM, SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE REDEVELOPING, BUT THERE'S LESS OPPORTUNITY THAT THE CITY HAS, UM, RELATED TO REGULATING THOSE PARCELS BECAUSE IT'S, UM, STATE OWNED PROPERTIES AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH LOCAL ZONING REGULATIONS.

UM, SO PROPERTY OWNERSHIP AND THEN, AS I SAID, WHETHER IT WAS PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY OWNED, ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE INTENT OF THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE.

THAT'S WHAT THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY IS INTENDED TO DO.

SO YOU WANNA PRESERVE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHILE STILL ACKNOWLEDGING THAT TRANSIT INVESTMENTS COULD CREATE A, A, A NEED OR A NECESSITY FOR, FOR MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO, AS YOU ALSO SEE, UM, A LOT OF THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY IS ALREADY REGULATED BY CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDORS 71% IN FACT.

AND SO IT TURNS INTO SLIM PICKENS AS FAR AS PROPERTIES THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, CONCEIVABLY PURSUE A DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS.

AND YEAH, I JUST, JUST CONFUSED AS TO WHY NOT, WHY NOT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE JUST SAYING THESE PROPERTIES ARE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE, IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PARTICIPATE.

EXACTLY.

SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST LET ALL OF THE PROPERTIES PARTICIPATE IF THEY WANT TO? WHY ARE WE LIMITING IT TO JUST THOSE ON THE, THAT ONE STREET? YEAH.

SHORT ANSWER IS TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY THAT IS THE EXISTING REGULATION FROM THE CODE.

AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO PRESERVE THAT, BECAUSE OUR, OUR, WE WEREN'T TASKED WITH DOING AWAY WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY, WE WERE TASKED WITH LOOKING AT WHICH PROPERTIES COULD PARTICIPATE.

SO THAT'S WHY.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT.

COMMISSIONER TINA GUCCI.

YEAH, THIS IS MORE FUNDAMENTAL, YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE BEEN ON THIS DESIGN COMMISSION FOREVER AND I'VE ALWAYS SEEN THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE BUILT, BUILT UNITS ON SITE THAT THOSE THAT U USUALLY COULDN'T AFFORD IT, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN LESS THAN WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, PACKAGE OR WHATEVER THE FUNDING.

BUT, BUT WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE, THERE'RE SO EXPENSIVE THAT THERE WOULDN'T EVER BE A CHANCE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY ONSITE BUILT UNITS, UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT COULDN'T OTHERWISE AFFORD IT.

AND IF THEY COULD, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANNA LIVE THERE BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO MUCH OUT OF, OUT OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR REALITY.

SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AS TO, UH, WHY THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, UH, , WHAT, WHY IT KIND OF FITS MY GOAL OF AFFORDABLE HEALTH OR DENSITY BONUS WHEN, WHEN THIS PROPERTY'S SO EXPENSIVE THAT IT'S NOT GONNA AFFORD, IT'S NOT GONNA, UH, IT'S NOT GONNA, UH, PROVIDE MORE EQUITY OR MORE WHATEVER THE GO, THE ORIGINAL GOALS OF DENSITY BONUS WERE? YEAH, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS THIS COMMISSION IS WELL AWARE, PART OF THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM IS AN EXCHANGE FOR, UM, FOR BONUS AREA, YOU PROVIDE COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

WE KNOW THAT 50% OF, OF, UM, THAT BONUS IS EARMARKED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO WHETHER IT'S BUILT ON SITE OR IN ANOTHER AREA THAT WOULD BE, UM, TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THROUGH, THROUGH FEES IN LIEU.

I MEAN, APART FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER APART FROM THE FACT THAT IF A, IF A PROJECT DOES SUBMIT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS HERE, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO EITHER PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SUBMIT, UM, YOU KNOW, PAY FEES IN LIEU.

AND SO THERE IS A, THERE IS A BENEFIT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER IT'S EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HOW WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE OR, OR, YOU

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KNOW, WHATEVER THE CASE IS.

I THINK THAT'S TO BE DECIDED.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.

SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS, WE SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE, UM, INCREASE THE EITHER FEES IN LIEU OR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING PRECLUDED BY THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY.

YEAH, I, I, IF I'M NOT, UH, MISTAKEN, I THINK THE FEE IN LIE IS A SET FEE.

IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT THE PROPERTY VALUE IS OR THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT IS, IS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN Y'ALL ARE BUILDING ON GOLD SITES LIKE THIS, I MEAN, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SHOWN IN GOLD THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE HIGH, IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE HIGHER FEE, UH, FEE LOU OR WHATEVER IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING MORE BENEFIT OUT OF IT WHEN IT'S BUILT IN THIS, UH, VERY, UM, EXPENSIVE DISTRICT.

UM, I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT AND THEN I'LL PASS IT TO YOU, COMMISSIONER CARROLL.

SO I THINK, UM, MY OFFICE IS AT 11TH AND OASIS, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA IN THINKING OF THE EXPERIENCE OF WALKING DOWN 12TH STREET FROM THE CAPITOL, UM, AND WHAT THE ZONING AND NEW PROJECTS ARE.

SO YOU'RE PROPOSING A DENSITY BONUS, UM, UP UNTIL I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CROSS STREET IS.

IT LOOKS, WHAT'S THE CROSS STREET WHERE IT EXTENDS? IT'S LIKE GUADALUPE, THE, WHERE, WHAT EXTENDS IS IT GUADALUPE? OKAY.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A 375 FOOT TOWER GOING IN AT 12TH AND SAN ANTONIO, AND THAT'S WHERE THE CBD ENDS.

AND THEN WE KIND OF SWITCH INTO A PATCHWORK OF OLD ZONING CODES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE ZONE DMU AND THERE'S A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR 12TH STREET OF 60 FEET.

UM, THERE'S A FEW PROJECTS WHO HAVE GOTTEN, UH, THERE'S NOT DENSITY BONUS FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE GOTTEN ADDITIONAL HEIGHT FOR OFFERING AFFORDABLE UNITS.

UM, SO SOME, THERE'S SOME PROJECTS THAT EXTEND UP TO 90 FEET, BUT THE GRADE CHANGES, SO THEY KIND OF FLATTEN OUT TO READ ALL IS 60 FEET.

UM, SO IT SEEMS LIKE I, I APPRECIATE THE OP THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO UNLOCK NEW PARCELS, BUT I FEEL LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS ALMOST A MORE CONFUSING BADGE WORK OF ZONING CODE.

UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO MAKE IT MORE DIRECT TO WHAT COUNCIL'S OBJECTIVE WAS, WHICH WAS UNLOCKED THE ENTIRE CBO.

I THINK YOUR COMMENT ABOUT SOME OF THE PARCELS ARE SMALLER OWNERS, WELL, SMALLER OWNERS CAN COMBINE THE PROPERTY FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

AND IF YOU CONTINUE AS YOU ARE NOW, THAT THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS OR DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK W FOR A PRETTY ARDUOUS PROCESS WHEN THIS COULD ALL JUST BE TAKEN CARE OF NOW BY INCLUDING THE WHOLE AREA THAT CITY COUNCIL ASKED FOR.

SO I GUESS I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT IT'S A LITTLE PATCHY AND, UM, JUST REQUESTING A SECOND LOOK ON HOW TO MAKE A COHESIVE SOLUTION.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER CAROL.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

SO, UH, HERE'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION SAYS.

CITY COUNCIL INITIATES AN AMENDMENT TO CITY CODE TO ALLOW PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CAPITAL DOMINANCE OVERLAY DISTRICT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

SO LONG AS THESE PROPERTIES CONTINUE TO COMPLY WITH THE CAPITAL V CORRIDORS AND THE C V C OVERLAY DISTRICT, WERE APPLICABLE AND DIRECTS THE CITY MANAGER TO