[CALL TO ORDER]
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UH, I'M BEN HEIM, SETH, THE, UH, INTERIM CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION.
WELCOME TO THE APRIL 5TH, 2023 HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:05 PM UH, THIS EVENING.
UH, WE HAVE TWO NEW MEMBERS WHO ARE JOINING US, AND SO, UH, LET ME FORMALLY WELCOME, UH, JAIME ALVAREZ.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND WE, WE REALLY DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU HERE.
AND, UH, LET ME ALSO, UH, ROXANNE EVANS, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND BEING HERE.
UH, I, I'D BE HAPPY TO LET YOU BOTH SAY A QUICK INTRODUCTION, IF YOU WILL.
FIGURING OUT HOW THE MIC WORKS.
UH, MY NAME IS, UH, HI, MAY ALVAREZ.
I AM A HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECT, UH, OVER 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, UH, WORKING ON, UH, YEAH, MOSTLY HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON SOME OF AUSTIN'S, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY PRECIOUS LANDMARKS SUCH AS THE FORMER FEDERAL COURTHOUSE 1935 ART DECO BUILDING, CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE FOG, FORMER CENTRAL LIBRARY AND THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER.
LOOKING TO GIVE THOSE TWO BUILDINGS, UH, SOME OF THE CARE THAT, THAT THEY NEED.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER EVANS.
I'M ROXANNE EVANS AND, UM, LONGTIME AUSTINITE AND I HAVE WRITTEN AND RESEARCHED, UH, ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION WITH AN EYE TOWARD EQUITY.
SO I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
UH, THIS EVENING WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL CALL ROLL OF THE MEMBERS, UH, AND THEN, UH, GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND WE WILL HAVE, UH, A CHANCE FOR, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE, UH, PUBLIC AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
UH, AND SO, UH, LET ME JUST START WITH THE ROLL CALL.
UH, OR IS THAT SOMETHING TYPICALLY, UH, AMBER, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU TYPICALLY WILL DO? NO.
UH, I'M BEN HEIM STAFF IS HERE.
UH, LET ME GO NEXT DOWN THE LINE.
I HAVE, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ HERE.
COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON HERE, COMMISSIONER CO.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE IS, UH, NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCWATERS HERE, AND I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER VALENZUELA MAY JOIN US REMOTELY.
BUT SHE'S NOT HERE PRESENT RIGHT NOW.
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE ONE, UH, VACANT, UH, POSITION CURRENTLY.
SO, UH, A MAJORITY FOR US AT THIS POINT, AS I UNDERSTAND, IS, UH, SIX.
UH, MA CERTAIN MAJORITY IS EIGHT, REGULAR MAJORITY IS SIX.
SO WE STILL ARE A SU A MAJORITY OF SIX, BUT A SUPER MAJORITY IS MOVED TO EIGHT IF, IF, IF, IF SO NEEDED AT ANY POINT DURING THE MEETING.
[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? THIS WOULD BE FOR SOMEBODY SPEAKING ON ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.THIS WOULD JUST BE GENERAL INFORMATION THAT SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH COMMISSIONERS.
IS ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE HAVE MEGAN KING WITH PRESERVATION.
MS. KING, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
I'M THE POLICY AND OUTREACH PLANNER FOR PRESERVATION.
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF UPDATES FOR YOU TONIGHT.
IN A FEW WEEKS, WE HAVE OUR 30TH ANNIVERSARY HOMES TOUR COMING UP ON SATURDAY, APRIL 22ND, AND SUNDAY APRIL 23RD.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A BIG TWO DAY BLOWOUT, AND WE HOPE YOU'LL JOIN US.
WE'VE GOT 11 HOMES, UM, SIX, UM, ON SATURDAY AND FIVE ON SUNDAY.
UM, YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HOMES AND THE TOUR, UH, PRESERVATION AUSTIN.ORG.
AND THEN, UM, IN ADDITION TO IT BEING OUR 30TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE HOME TOUR, IT'S ALSO OUR ORGANIZATION'S 70TH BIRTHDAY.
AND SO WE'RE PLANNING A BIG BIRTHDAY PARTY ON JUNE 7TH, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATELY A COMMISSION MEETING NIGHT, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE A LIGHT MEETING SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN ALL COME AND JOIN US.
IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, AT THE DRISCOLL HOTEL.
SO WE'RE INVITING ALL OF OUR MEMBERS TO COME AND JOIN US AND CELEBRATE TOAST TO THE ORGANIZATION.
SO WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE AS WELL.
WELL, AND A POINT OF ORDER, HOW MANY OF US WOULD BE ALLOWED TO ATTEND THAT EVENT EDITING ONE TIME?
THANK, AND AGAIN, UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE ORGANIZATION, UH, AND, UH, THANK YOU
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SO MUCH, MS. KING FOR YOUR COMMENTS.OR WE COULD POST IT, RIGHT? OR COULD BE POSTED.
YEAH, JUST POST THAT AS AN OPTION.
UH, AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE, UH, AGENDA AND ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE MARKED AS CONSENT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSION ONLY IF SOMEONE FROM THE AUDIENCE OR ONE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PULLS THE EVENT, THE ITEM.
SO PLEASE, IF I READ THE ITEM AS I REVIEW THE AGENDA FOR YOU AND YOU WOULD LIKE THAT NOT TO BE CONSENTED AND YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT, GET OUR ATTENTION SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, ONCE I'VE GONE THROUGH THE AGENDA, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS SO THAT WE CAN HANDLE, I'M SO SORRY, BEN, BUT WE HAD A COUPLE OTHER, UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
I'M SO SORRY, I GOT DISTRACTED.
SO WE'RE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, BUT LET'S GO BACK TO PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.
WE HAD KATHY ROBINSON WITH THE RE OKAY.
MS. ROBINSON, UH, PEOPLE PLEASE COME, COME TO THE PODIUM.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND AUDIENCE.
UM, MY NAME IS KATHY ROBINSON AND I'M THE AUSTIN AREA ASSOCIATE FOR A NON-PROFIT CALLED THE REUSE PEOPLE.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN TO Y'ALL ABOUT US BEFORE, BUT IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS AND I HAVE SOME NEW INFORMATION TO SHARE.
SINCE 1993, OUR MISSION HAS BEEN TO KEEP BUILDING MATERIALS OUT OF THE LANDFILL AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE FOR REUSE.
WE ACHIEVED THIS GOAL BY OFFERING PROPERTY OWNERS GREEN ALTERNATIVES TO TRADITIONAL DEMOLITION.
ONE APPROACH IS HELPING OWNERS DECONSTRUCT HOUSES TO SALVAGE MATERIALS FOR REUSE.
BY DONATING THE MATERIALS TO OUR ORGANIZATION, THE OWNER CAN RECEIVE A POTENTIALLY SUBSTANTIAL TAX DEDUCTION.
THE SECOND APPROACH INVOLVES RELOCATING THE ENTIRE HOUSE, WHICH HAS GREATER BENEFITS, AS I'LL EXPLAIN SHORTLY.
AND THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPTION FOR HOUSES FOR MOST HOUSES ON PURE AND BEAM FOUNDATIONS.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE ARE PLENTY OF FOLKS OUT THERE LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO BE MOVED AND WHO ARE WILLING TO PAY THE FULL COST OF THE MOVE, WHICH CAN RUN FROM 20,000 TO $50,000.
IN THE RELOCATION SCENARIO, NOT ONLY DOES THE OWNER SAVE THE COST OF DEMOLITION, BUT CAN RECEIVE TAX BENEFITS FOR DONATING THE HOUSE.
JUST AS WITH SALVAGE MATERIALS, WE ASSIST THE OWNER IN OBTAINING AN I R S QUALIFIED APPRAISAL, WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR DONATION VALUES ABOVE $5,000.
DONATING, DONATING THE HOUSE THROUGH OUR PROGRAM IS, OF COURSE, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL.
IT MAY NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE, BUT WE CAN STILL HELP RELOCATE THE HOUSE, WHETHER IT IS DONATED OR NOT.
SINCE LAUNCHING THE PROGRAM HERE EIGHT YEARS AGO, WE'VE COMPLETED 120 PROJECTS ALMOST EQUALLY SPLIT BETWEEN DECONSTRUCTIONS AND HOUSE RELOCATIONS.
WE HAVE MANY SATISFIED CLIENTS WHO ARE THRILLED THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO SAVE MONEY ON THEIR PROJECTS WHILE DOING SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE COMMUNITY.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I'M EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE A NEWLY PUBLISHED GUIDE THAT EXPLORES HOUSE RELOCATION IN AUSTIN.
THIS PRACTICAL GUIDE WAS MADE POSSIBLE WITH A RESEARCH GRANT FROM PRESERVATION AUSTIN, AND IT WAS WRITTEN FOR AUSTIN RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS, DEVELOPERS, AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PROFESSIONALS.
IT CONSIDERS RELOCATION AS A MEANS TO PRESERVE AND REUSE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES WITHIN AUSTIN CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND ITS POTENTIAL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS GUIDE CAN BE DOWNLOADED FROM OUR WEBSITE@DECONSTRUCTAUSTIN.COM AND WILL SOON BE AVAILABLE ON PRESERVATION AUSTIN'S WEBSITE AS WELL.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE FULL PRINTED COPIES YET.
I SUSPECT MOST PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO READ IT ONLINE, BUT I DID, UM, PRINT SOME TWO PAGE SUMMARIES IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THESE.
UM, SO THE FULL GUIDE IS LONGER.
THIS IS A NICE SUMMARY THOUGH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MS. ROBINSON.
AND YOUR ORGANIZATION, UH, A VERY IMPORTANT ELEMENT.
AND, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THAT, UH, IS AVAILABLE@DECONSTRUCTAUSTIN.COM.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR AGAIN, PRESERVATION AUSTIN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP.
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S MORE, UH, NO, THAT'S IT.
SO, AS I SAID, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
I WILL READ, UH, IN ORDER ALL OF OUR ITEMS AND WHAT ACTION IS BEING PROPOSED, BUT IN PARTICULARLY ON CONSENT ITEMS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE US TO PULL, PLEASE GET OUR ATTENTION.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM, ITEM ONE, IS OUR MARCH 1ST, UH, 2023, UH, UH, MINUTES.
AND THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE WEST, DOWNTOWN AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER.
HISTORIC DISTRICT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY ACTION TO BRIEFING, UH,
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POSTED UNDER[3. PR-2022-143328 – 7304 Knox Ln. – Applicant-Requested Indefinite Postponement (Commission-Initiated Historic Zoning March 1, 2023) Council District 10]
HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATIONS.THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, HA, REQUESTING AN INDEFINITE POSTPONE.
UH, UH, WE HAVE ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, 1700 HARTFORD ROAD.
THAT'S POSTED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
THAT WILL BE 1316 WEST SIXTH STREET.
AGAIN, UH, REQUESTED, POSTPONED BY THE APPLICANT ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.
THAT'S SEVEN 13 CONGRESS AVENUE.
AND THAT IS OFFERED AS CONSENT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN 900 CHACON STREET, UH, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
THESE ARE HERITAGE GRANT RECI, UH, APPLICATIONS.
UH, THESE ARE RE RECIPIENTS OF OUR HERITAGE GRANT PROGRAM.
UH, AND THAT THAT IS ALL, ALL UNDER NUMBER FIVE, SIX, AND NOW SEVEN.
UM, NUMBER 8, 5 0 7 EAST 10TH STREET, UH, THE GERMAN FREE SCHOOL THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
UH, THAT IS THE NEIL COCHRANE HOUSE, UH, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
UM, WE HAVE 38 0 5 RED RIVER, UH, THE RED RIVER INTERNATIONAL HOUSE, UH, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
AND A NUMBER 11 12 0 9 EAST 11TH STREET, A HILLSIDE PHARMACY THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
AND THEN, UM, 4 0 1 WEST SECOND STREET, THE JP SCHNEIDER STORE THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
CONTINUING ON THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT APPLICATIONS AND HISTORIC LANDMARK, UH, CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS.
UH, THIS ONE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE, UH, UH, AN ADDRESS, UH, CORRECTION.
IS THAT RIGHT? THIS IS 6 0 6 EAST THIRD STREET, THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, AND THAT IS A, UM, DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.
UM, WE HAVE ON ITEM NUMBER 14, UH, ONE 15 EAST FIFTH STREET.
THAT IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT FOR THE HERMAN HOUSE.
ITEM 15 7 18 CONGRESS AVENUE, THE TOWNSON THOMPSON BUILDING THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ON ITEM 16 6 10 BAYLOR, A CASTLE HILL LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION, AND THAT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
UH, ITEM 17 38 13 AVENUE H THAT IS IN THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
UH, THIS IS, UM, OFFERED FOR DISCUSSION AT 1610 WATCH HILL ROAD, THE HUFF GRN WILSON RANSOM HOUSE.
UH, THIS IS A PROPERTY IN THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, THAT IS, UH, POSTED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM 20 14 0 7 WEST NINTH STREET, THE WILLIAM PILLOW HOUSE.
THAT ONE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
OKAY, THE NEXT ITEMS ARE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
UH, NUMBER 21 IS FIVE 12 EAST MONROE.
THAT IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.
ITEM NUMBER 22 13 15 AND 1317 NOON AVENUE.
THAT ALSO IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.
ITEM 23 21, 31, WILLIAM BARTON DRIVE, THE ZER PARK NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT PROPERTY, UH, THAT IS, UH, OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
UH, THAT IS 5 0 3 TERRACE DRIVE.
I KNOW IT WAS POSTED WITH CONSENT, BUT WE DO KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S HERE FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, THAT'S IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
UH, SO THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER 25 15 13 MURRAY LANE.
THAT IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.
ITEM NUMBER 26 16 11 DRAKE AVENUE.
THAT IS, UH, TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE THAT ALSO HAS BEEN REQUESTED FOR DISCUSSION.
SO THAT IS NOT ON, ON THE CONSENT.
UM, LET ME GO TO THE DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
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NUMBER 27.THAT IS, UH, 6 0 8 EAST THIRD STREET.
UH, THAT IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.
I, ITEM NUMBER 28 22, UH, TWO 2,200 SAN ANTONIO STREET.
UH, THAT IS A CONSENT OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 29 25 14 PEARL STREET, UH, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 30 43 0 4 PARKWOOD ROAD, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM 26 0 7 BRIDAL PATH NUMBER 31 THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 32 20 0 8 CANTERBURY STREET.
ITEM NUMBER 33 7 0 4 WEST JOHANNA STREET, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
WE GO ON TO COMMITTEE UPDATES AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. WE ARE POSTED FOR ACTIONS FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, AND THE GRANTS COMMITTEE AND PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE.
UH, THERE ARE STAFFING ITEMS THAT WERE POSTED FOR POSSIBLE ACTION.
UH, THE 2023 LANDMARK INSPECTION RESULTS, UH, WITH AN UPDATED LIST.
UH, ITEM 38, ITEM 39, OUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND, UH, ITEM 40 FOR STAFF OR FUTURE.
UH, OUR AGENDA ITEMS HAVING TO DO WITH OUR CHAIR, VICE CHAIR ELECTIONS.
AND ITEM 41 IS THE 2023 COMMISSIONER TRAINING AND RETREAT.
SO I READ THROUGH THE AGENDA, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION OTHER THAN THE ONES NOTED? OKAY, AT THIS POINT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, FOR, WELL, I, I'LL REVIEW THE CONSENT AGENDA
[Consent Agenda]
ONE MORE TIME, AND THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.SO RIGHT NOW I HAVE THE, UH, ITEMS FOR CONSENT AS NUMBER ONE, THE MEETING MINUTES NUMBER 6 7 13, CONGRESS AVENUE NUMBER SEVEN, 900 CHIK STREET, NUMBER 8 5 0 7 EAST 10TH STREET.
NUMBER 9 23 10 SAN GABRIEL NUMBER 10 28 0 5, RED RIVER NUMBER 11 12 0 9 EAST 11TH, 11TH STREET.
ITEM NUMBER 12 4 0 1 WEST SECOND STREET, ITEM NUMBER 15.
THAT IS SEVEN 18 CONGRESS AVENUE.
UH, AND BY THE WAY, THE, THOSE ITEMS, UH, THAT ARE PART OF OUR GRANTS PROGRAM, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE SOME OF THE ITEMS WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY HAVING BACKUP TO THE PROJECTS.
ALL OF US, IT WAS UPLOADED THIS MORNING, BUT THEY WERE NOW UPLOADED THIS MORNING.
SO YOU DIDN'T, IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THEM EARLIER, THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, UPLOADED.
AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY, UH, INVOLVED.
UH, AT LEAST SOME ARE ALL OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GIVE THE, UH, THE PARTICIPANTS AS, UH, PART OF OUR GRANTS PROGRAM.
SO, UH, PAT ON THE BACK, BY THE WAY,
SO EACH ONE OF THOSE, UM, THAT GOES NOW TO ITEM 16, 6 10 BAYLOR STREET OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM 17, THAT IS THE 38 13 AVENUE H.
THAT IS THE 1407 WEST NINTH STREET.
THAT IS THE, UM, 2131 WILLIAM BARTON DRIVE.
AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S ALSO ONE, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT POST HAS TAKEN PLACE AS WELL AND, UH, DESERVES A, UH, A LOOK OVER IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY SEEN THE ZILKER.
UH, UM, LET'S SEE, IS THAT RIGHT? THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, THE MARTIN SPRINGS BATHHOUSE.
SO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE DOCUMENTS.
UH, THAT SHOULD BE QUITE A PROJECT.
SO SHOUT OUT THERE TO THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 24 IS NOW A DISCUSSION ITEM.
SO THAT IS NOT ON THE CONSENT ITEM.
ITEM 28 IS, UH, 2200 SAN ANTONIO STREET IS ON THE CONSENT
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ITEM 29 25 14 PEARL STREET, ITEM 30 43 0 4 PARKWOOD ROAD, ITEM 31 26 0 7 BRIDAL PATH ITEM 32 20 0 8 CANTERBURY ROAD.AND ITEM NUMBER 33 702 WEST JOHANNA STREET.
THOSE ARE OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, UH, SECONDED BY, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER MACOR.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, IT'S UNANIMOUS.
UH, WE NOW HAVE CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS.
THESE ARE, UM, OFFERED WITH APPLICANT.
ALL OF THEM ARE APPLICANT REQUESTED.
AND, UH, THOSE ARE ITEM NUMBER 3 73 0 4 KNOX LANE.
ITEM NUMBER 5 13 16 WEST SIXTH STREET.
ITEM NUMBER 1415, UH, ONE 15 EAST FIFTH STREET.
ITEM NUMBER 21 5 12 EAST MONROE STREET, ITEM NUMBER 22 13 15 AND 1317 NOON AVENUE IN ITEM NUMBER 24 15 13 MURRAY LANE.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MOVE THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT AGENDA WITH THE NOTE THAT ITEM THREE, THE PUBLIC HEARING REMAINS OPEN ON THAT ONE.
UH, REUNIFICATION WILL BE SENT OUT BEFORE THE OCTOBER MEETING IN SIX MONTHS.
MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER COOK.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? ALL SECOND.
AND, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, POSTPONES, UH, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
SO FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, ANYBODY WHOSE PROJECT HAS EITHER BEEN POSTPONED OR HAS BEEN PASSED BY CONSENT, OUR ACTIONS ARE COMPLETE TONIGHT.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO HOME, OR YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME AND STAY AND VISIT WITH US FOR THE REST OF THE EVENING.
BUT, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR, YOUR TIME.
SO OUR AGENDA AT THIS POINT ALSO INCLUDES DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENTS AND THOSE WE WILL NOT ACTUALLY BE HEARING THE CASE SPECIFICALLY AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT THIS DESERVES OR SHOULD BE POSTPONED.
THE APPLICANT OR THE STAFF MAY MAKE A REASONABLE, UH, PITCH FOR WHY IT SHOULD BE POSTPONED, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THE OTHER ONES WERE, UH, A, A GIVEN THAT WE WILL POSTPONE.
[Items 13 & 27]
THE FIRST ITEM NUMBER 13, THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.AND THAT IS 6 0 6 EAST THIRD STREET, CHAIRMAN H HEIM, SETH.
BOTH, UH, ITEM 13 AND 27 CAN BE TAKEN TOGETHER SINCE IT IS ON THE SAME LOT, BUT TWO DIFFERENT ADDRESSES.
UM, WE NEED A MOTION TO TAKE THE ITEMS TOGETHER.
AND SO THEREFORE, THAT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THEM TOGETHER.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO HAVE BOTH ITEM 13 AND 27, UH, PRESENTED, UH, FOR THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT SIMULTANEOUSLY.
UH, COMMISSIONER FEDERSON HAS MOTION, COMMISSIONER COOK SECOND.
ALRIGHT, LET US PROCEED WITH THE DISCUSSION, POSTPONEMENT.
OKAY? YES, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
I'M A STRUCTURED SOLUTION, AND I, UH, HAVE, UH, DEALT BY MYSELF, MOVE, CONSULT, HISTORIC VINTAGE HOUSES TO BE MOVED SINCE 1992.
FIRST COPY WRITTEN AUTHOR ON HOUSE MOVING 99.
UM, THE FIRST REALITY TV SHOW WAS DONE RIGHT HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, ABOUT 2001.
UH, AND MR. WILBURN, IF I COULD, YOUR COMMENTS REALLY AT THIS POINT ARE STRICTLY A MATTER OF SHOULD THIS BE JUST POST OR NOT? SO, SO, I'M, I'M, I'M NEW TO THIS CASE AND I'M, I'M GOING TO, UH, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE 'EM TO RELOCATION.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE THE HOUSES, AND I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF THAT I'M, I'M, UH, NEW TO THE CASE ON THE, UH, EAST THIRD, AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, AND I WILL JUST ASK FOR A POSTPONEMENT TO THE NEXT MONTH IF I COULD.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, JUST TO ASK THE COMMISSION THAT WE REALLY OPEN UP OUR THOUGHTS TO WHERE, WHERE THEY CAN GO, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHERE THESE CAN BE MOVED TO.
UH, WE, WE DO HAVE BACKUP ON THE CASE.
WE DO HAVE, UH, IF WE ARE POSTPONING THIS, WE WILL HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION AT THE, UH, MAY 3RD MEETING IF IT'S POSTPONED SUCCESSFULLY.
SO WE HANG, WE CAN GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT AT THAT TIME.
UH, BUT IN TERMS OF YOUR OWN INTEREST, I UNDERSTAND YOU WOULD PREFER IT TO BE POSTPONED.
AND, AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT YOU'LL HAVE MORE
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INFORMATION FOR US AT THE NEXT MEETING.I'VE, I'VE BEEN IN THE HOUSES AND I HAVE, YEAH, I'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND, AND, AND, UH, AND A PLAN FOR YOU.
AND I WANTED TO WORK, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE HUSBAND THESE HOUSES AND THEY, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THEY'RE OKAY.
WE WANT THE COMMISSION TO BE HAPPY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WELLBORN? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO IS OPPOSED TO THE POSTPONEMENT? YOU MIGHT.
UM, STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS? JUST A CHANCE TO MEET MR. WELLBORN? IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WAS IT.
UH, SO THE REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE FOR BOTH ITEMS, UH, HAVING TO DO WITH THE MOVEMENT OF A PROPERTY.
UH, BUT, UH, THE ACTUAL CASE ITSELF IS TO BE POSTPONED IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL.
UH, BUT THE REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE OF US.
AND SO, UH, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A POSTPONEMENT TO OUR MAY 3RD MEETING.
SECOND, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MC MCGUIRE.
SECOND BY, UM, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT? THE TWO CASES INDICATE POSSIBLY, YES.
IT IS, WILL BE ON THE MAY AGENDA.
[2. West Downtown Austin National Register Historic District]
THAT NOW BRINGS US TO, UH, OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A, UH, BRIEFING.AND SO WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE WEST DOWNTOWN AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO US FROM REMOTELY, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
EMILY PAYNE SHOULD BE ON THE LINE.
UH, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP.
WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST SAY NEXT.
I'M ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN FOR HH M N ASSOCIATES.
UM, THIS NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION FOR WEST DOWNTOWN IS A CULMINATION OF A MULTIPLE PHASE, UM, EFFORT.
IT'S BEEN A JOINT, UM, VENTURE OF THE WEST, THE OLD AUSTIN DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE CITY.
UM, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO, UM, SHARE IT WITH YOU.
IT GOES TO THE STATE BOARD OF REVIEW IN MAY.
UM, BUT IT'S OPEN FOR COMMENT RIGHT NOW FROM THE CLG.
IS IT THERE? THANK YOU, AMBER.
UM, A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECT BACKGROUND.
AS I MENTIONED THE SURVEY, UH, UM, INITIALLY A SURVEY WAS FUNDED BY THE OLD AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, WITH A CLG MATCHING GRANT FROM THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION IN THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
SO THE SURVEY, UM, CONTRACT WAS SIGNED AND IT WAS EXECUTED IN 2019, FINALIZED IN 2020.
UM, AND THEN THE NATIONAL REGISTER, UM, NOMINATION CONTRACT WAS SIGNED IN JANUARY, 2022.
THAT'S FUNDED FULLY BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT, AND EVEN THE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NOMINATION.
UM, AND SO A DRAFT, UH, WAS DEVELOPED IN 2022, AND AS I MENTIONED, IT'S SCHEDULED TO GO TO STATE BOARD OF REVIEW ON MARCH 13TH AND TYLER, TEXAS NEXT, PLEASE, AMBER.
SO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT, AS ARE, UH, OUTLINED IN YELLOW, IT'S BASICALLY, UM, THE, THE BUSY STREETS ON THE OUTSIDE ARE BASICALLY, UM, MLK, WEST SEVENTH, UH, WEST AND OASIS MOSTLY.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S KIND OF JAGGED BECAUSE THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT AT THE EDGES OF THIS DISTRICT.
IT'S REALLY A REMARKABLE DISTRICT IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IS INTACT IN THE CORE AND HOW INTENSE THE DEVELOPMENT IS AT THE EDGES.
AND IN TERMS OF THE CRITERION, AREAS OF SIGNIFICANCE, IT'S NOMINATED UNDER BOTH CRITERIA, A AND C.
SO BOTH FOR ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORIC TRENDS AND THE AREAS OF SIGNIFICANCE OF COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND ARCHITECTURE.
NEXT, UH, THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE IS 1856 TO 1968.
I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME INCREDIBLE, SOME OF THE EARLIEST BUILDINGS IN AUSTIN IN THE DISTRICT, AND THEN SOME GREAT EXAMPLES OF MID-CENTURY HISTORY, TOO.
IT'S REALLY WONDERFULLY RICH IN ECLECTIC DISTRICT.
UM, THE, THE CONTRIBUTING AND LISTED RESOURCES COMBINED, UM, CONSTITUTE 83% OF THE DISTRICT.
SO THERE ARE 248, UM, CONTRIBUTING OR LISTED RESOURCES.
13 OF THOSE ARE PREVIOUSLY INDIVIDUALLY LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER.
THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SAMPLING.
UM, A LOT OF FOLK, VICTORIAN BUNGALOWS, BUT MID-CENTURY AS WELL.
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A WONDERFUL ECLECTIC DISTRICT IN TERMS OF BOTH SCALE AND, UM, STYLE.AND THEN IN TERMS OF NON-CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES, UM, IT'S ABOUT 17% OF THE DISTRICT.
UM, SOME ALTERATIONS, BUT THEN THERE ALSO ARE SOME BRUTALIST THINGS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, THAT ARE OUT JUST OUTSIDE THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE DISTRICT, UM, THAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY INTERRUPT THE SCALE OF THE DISTRICT, UM, AND THAT THE PATTERNS.
AS I MENTIONED, THE STATE OF ORDER OF REVIEW MEETING IS ON MARCH 13TH.
AND TYLER, UM, YOU'RE, ANYONE WHO'S WELCOME IS WELCOME TO JOIN.
THE DRAFT IS AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW ON, UM, THE THC WEBSITE AT THE LINK BELOW.
AND OF COURSE, THE, THE THC IS ACCEPTING COMMENT, UM, ON THE DRAFT, IF I COULD, IF I, SORRY TO INTERRUPT HERE.
UH, MS. PAYNE, IS IT MARCH 13TH OR YOU MEAN MAY 13TH? I'M SORRY.
GOOD CATCH WITH THE VINE PRINT.
WELL, I WAS, I WAS DOING A LITTLE BIT OF A, A TIME WARP THERE JUST TO SEE IF I MISSED SOMETHING, SO, OKAY.
MAY, MAY 13TH FOR CATCHING THAT.
I THINK AMBER NEXT HAS MY CONTACT INFORMATION FOR, UH, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS IF ANYONE HAS ANY, ANY MEMBERS, UH, HAVE QUESTIONS.
MS. PAYNE? UH, I JUST THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT EFFORT AND I WANT TO COMPLIMENT, UH, ALL WHO'VE BEEN INVOLVED.
I KNOW IT'S MORE THAN JUST A FEW PEOPLE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE COMMISSION MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, WHICH IS ADMINISTERED AT THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL.
AND, UH, BUT ALSO OUR ROLE, UH, IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, WILL BE TO AT LEAST, UH, HAVE COMMENT ON ANY, UH, BUILDING PERMIT OR, UH, DEMOLITION OR ANY ACTION ON BUILDINGS WITHIN THE AREA.
UH, BUT JUST COMMENT, UH, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY, NOT A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT, BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SAY WHEN WE HAVE LOCAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.
AND SO WE HAVE BOTH IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.
UH, MANY TIMES THEY, THEY ARE PARALLEL OR THEY HAVE SOME OVERLAP.
BUT IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICATION WOULD BE FOR A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
UH, AND WE AGAIN, DON'T REALLY NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION, UH, OTHER THAN, UH, I THINK APPLAUD THE EFFORTS.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS THEY ARISE.
AND YOU HAVE MY INFORMATION IF YOU NEED TO REACH OUT.
KEEP US POSTED AND LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO TO HELP.
[4. ZC-2023-019106 – 1700 Hartford Rd. - Discussion Lewallen House Council District 10]
AGENDA, WE NOW HAVE OUR POSTED, UH, HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATIONS.AND THE FIRST ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM 1700, UH, HARTFORD ROAD.
UH, AND MS. CONTRERAS, UH, WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE PRESENTATION? UH, ITEM C 14 H 20 23 0 24 IS AN APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING AT 1700 HARTFORD ROAD, THE LUEN HOUSE.
UH, THE DESIGNATION QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY ARE, UH, 25 2 3 52, UH, THREE
UH, THE LUEN HOUSE REPRESENTS ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING EXAMPLES OF FRENCH ECLECTIC ARCHITECTURE FROM THE 1930S IN AUSTIN.
IT IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THE STYLE POPULAR FROM 1915 TO 1945, BUILT IN 1933 BY NOTED ARCHITECT EDWIN AUSTIN, ARCHITECT EDWIN KRIESEL.
THE HOME IS A DISTINCT SUBTYPE OF THE FRENCH ECLECTIC STYLE, KNOWN AS TOWERED, DEMONSTRATED BY ITS PROMINENT ROUND TOWER WITH A HIGH CONICAL ROOF.
IT'S STORYBOOK DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE STRIKING AND UNCOMMON IN AUSTIN, PARTICULARLY THAT MEMORABLE TOWER ENTRANCE AND ITS WHIMSICAL, ASYMMETRICAL GABLE.
IT WAS BUILT BY ARCHITECT EDWIN KREEL FOR RJ AND DOROTHY LOU ALLEN.
DOROTHY LOU ALLEN WAS A UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS GRADUATE WHO TAUGHT HOME EC AT AUSTIN HIGH SCHOOL.
AND RJ LU ALLEN KNOWN AS RED, WORKED AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE JOHN VERMONT COMPANY ON TOP BUSINESS COURSES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, LAUDED FOR HIS BUSINESS ACUMEN AND SALESMANSHIP.
LEWEN WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN 1959 AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TEXAS WHOLESALE GROCERIES ASSOCIATION IN 1960.
HIS MENTORSHIP CULTIVATED A GENERATION OF TEXAS BUSINESS PEOPLE.
HE WAS ALSO A PROMINENT FIGURE IN CIVIC LIFE MANAGING FORMER US REP REPRESENTATIVE JAKE PICKLES, CAMPAIGN FOR CONGRESS IN 1963 PICKLE WHO HOPED THAT LOU ALLEN'S POPULARITY IN AUSTIN WOULD GENERATE CAMPAIGN SUPPORT, WENT ON TO SERVE IN THE HOUSE FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
HE WAS BORN TO BE A THOUGHTFUL AND CARING CIVIC WORKER NOTED PICKLE.
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UH, RETROSPECTIVE AFTER LU ALLEN'S DEATH STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FROM SF THREE TO SF THREE H.UH, AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
UM, DO WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, LORI MARTIN.
OKAY, MS. MARTIN, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
MY NAME IS LORI MARTIN, AND I'M AN ARCHITECT, ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN WITH O'CONNELL ARCHITECTURE.
AND I HAVE WORKED WITH, UM, MISS NANCY BOWLES, UH, TO PREPARE THIS, UM, LANDMARK ZONING CASE FOR HER AND HER PROPERTY.
SHE, UH, AND HER HUSBAND HAVE LIVED IN THE PROPERTY THEMSELVES SINCE 1977.
SHE IS A MASTER GARDENER AND HAS DONE SO MUCH TO, UM, ELEVATE THE CURB APPEAL OF THE HOME AND KEEP IT IN, UH, MAINTAIN IT IN KEEPING WITH THE ACTUAL ARCHITECTURE.
AND WE'RE EXCITED TO, UM, OFFER THIS HOME FOR HISTORIC ZONING.
UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? WELL, ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, COMING FORWARD.
AND, UH, MS. MARTIN, WE MAY STILL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? OKAY.
HEARING ELLEN ONE, UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT.
UH, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE, UH, ENTERTAIN, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS CASE.
UH, IF ANYBODY, UH, COMMISSIONERS WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION.
ANYONE SECOND? COMMISSIONER GROGAN, UH, MOVED AND SECONDED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING, RAISING YOUR HAND.
ALRIGHT, THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
UH, WE ARE READY FOR AN ACTION.
COMMISSIONERS, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? I'LL MOVE TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, UH, ON BASIS OF ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS.
I HAVE A MOTION, UH, IS THERE A SECOND? ONE SECOND.
UH, WOULD THE COMMISSIONER COOK? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? I JUST SAY I THINK, UH, THE ARCHITECTURE HERE IS, UM, PROBABLY THE STRONGER ELEMENT, BUT I THINK THE HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS ARE SOLID.
THE INTEGRITY OF THIS HOUSE WITH ITS UNIQUE DETAILS IS REMARKABLE.
A HOUSE OF THIS SCALE REMAINING OF THIS SCALE, UH, IN AUSTIN AT THIS TIME IS REMARKABLE.
UM, IT'S JUST A REALLY UNIQUE HOUSE AND, UH, I DON'T, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE QUINTESSENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
AND COMMISSIONER MARK WATER? NO.
ANY, ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I, I DID WANT TO WEIGH IN.
UM, I, I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S ALSO RARE TO HAVE, UH, A HOUSE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA TO BE AS, UM, TO HAVE AS MUCH ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY AS THIS ONE DOES, AND TO BE AS INTACT AS IT IS.
SO IT'S A KIND OF A QUIRKY AND SOMEWHAT DISTINCTIVE LOOK.
UH, BUT SOME OF ITS OTHER PEER PROPERTIES PROBABLY HAVE THEM ALTERED SIGNIFICANTLY, AND THIS ONE CLEARLY HAS NOT.
SO I THINK THAT'S VERY VALUABLE.
UM, I THINK THE OTHER THING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE OF OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS APPLICANT WOULD THEN RE UH, HAVE STILL ACTION THAT'S REQUIRED OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL BEFORE AN ACTUAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION WILL TAKE PLACE.
UH, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WHERE WE SEE A VALUABLE PROPERTY THAT'S THREATENED AND AN OWNER WHO MAYBE NEEDS SOME CONVINCING.
UH, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL FOR HAVING AN OWNER WHO, UH, IS WILLING TO, UH, COME FORWARD AND BE PART OF THE PROGRAM AND PARTNER WITH THE CITY FOR PRESERVING THIS, UH, FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
UM, SO MAY I SAY THAT NANCY IS HERE TO FIND SO WELL, THANK YOU.
SO MUCH, SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, I'M ALSO REVEALING THAT I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
SO,
UH, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
EVERYONE HERE? ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALRIGHT, UH, THE NEXT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM FIVE.
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SORRY, I'M MISSING 18 ITEM 1818.[18. HR-2023-020343 – 1610 Watchhill Rd. – Discussion Hoefgen-Wilson-Ransom House Council District 10]
18, UH, 1610.UH, ITEM 18, 16 10, WATCH HILL ROAD.
UM, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO REMODEL AN EXISTING CARPORT AT THE REAR OF A LANDMARKED HOUSE TO CREATE A FIRST FLOOR GARAGE WITH A SECOND FLOOR ACCESSED BY AN EXTERIOR STAIRCASE.
UH, THE HOME'S COMPOSITION ROOF WILL MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSES ROOF PITCH AND DETAILS.
UH, WOOD WINDOWS, SIDING AND FRAMING WILL ALSO MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSE.
AND SANDBORN MAPS INDICATE THAT THE REAR CARPORT WAS BUILT BETWEEN 1961 AND 1964, UH, AROUND THE TIME WHEN UT PRESIDENT HARRY RANSOM AND HIS FAMILY MOVED INTO THE HOUSE.
THUS, SO THE CARPORT IS NOT ORIGINAL.
IT WAS CONSTRUCTED DURING THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE BY A SIGNIFICANT OWNER OF THE HOUSE.
THE PROJECT MEETS THE APPLICABLE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR COMPATIBILITY, BUT DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARDS FOR REMOVAL OF HISTORIC MATERIAL.
UM, THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE CARPORT ADDITION HAS ACHIEVED SIGNIFICANCE IN ITS OWN RIGHT.
UH, IF SO, INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS.
UM, BUT IF NOT, APPROVE THE APPLICATION, UH, FOR THE PROPOSAL.
OKAY, MS. GUTIERREZ? THANK YOU.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE THEY LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY? PLEASE.
AND PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME.
I'M ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.
AND, UH, WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ON WHAT TO DO WITH THE ROOF OF THE ADDITION.
UH, THE OWNERS IS A, IT'S KIND OF A, A U-SHAPE WITH THE, WHERE THE ADDITION IS IS ON TOP OF AN EXISTING CARPORT.
AND WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD DO THE ROOF AS A FLAT ROOF, WHICH MATCHES THE ADDITIONS ON THE BACK OR, OR A GABLE IN ROOF THAT MATCHES THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE FRONT.
UH, SO THAT, THAT WAS OUR BIG DISCUSSION.
UH, IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD PROJECT.
AND I'LL, I'LL REMIND COMMISSIONERS, THIS OF COURSE, IS A LANDMARK PROPERTY, SO THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS EXACTLY AS I SAID, IS THIS, IS THIS APPROPRIATE FOR A LANDMARK PROPERTY? AND WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN CONSIDERATION TO SEVERAL AL ALTERNATIVES.
UH, BUT, UH, WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE PITCHED ROOF IS THE ONE THAT'S PREFERRED.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE HOLLAND? NO, THAT'S RIGHT.
UH, MR. HOLLAND, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? UH, MR. HOLLAND? OKAY, THANK YOU.
DID YOU COME TO THE, UM, PITCHED ROOF, UH, DECISION BASED ON HOW YOU FELT WE WOULD TAKE IT? OR WAS THAT A DECISION THAT WAS MADE INDEPENDENTLY OF NO, ACTUALLY WE DID, WE DID TWO SCHEMES.
WE DID THE GABE IN SCHEME NUMBER ONE, AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BACK THERE.
IT'S PRETTY FAR FROM THE STREET.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY, IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO SEE IT EVEN, BUT WE WERE AFRAID THAT THAT WAS TOO MUCH.
AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THE FLAT ROOF SCHEME AND THE, THE EXISTING CROSS IS GABLE ACROSS THE, THE, UH, EXTENT OF THE VISION FROM THE FRONT.
AND THE ADDITION THAT'S ON THE EAST END IS A FLAT ROOF EDITION.
AND WE CAME UP WITH A FLAT ROOF EDITION ON THE WEST, AND WE FELT LIKE THAT THIS WAS THE PROPER SOLUTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, SIR HOLLAND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK, UH, IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.
UH, SEEING THAT NO ONE HEARS, UH, FROM THE AUDIENCE, I BELIEVE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO MOVE COMMISSIONER COOK AND A SECOND.
AND, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER 18, UH, INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT IS YOUR, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE? AND, AND I CAN SAY THIS, AS I UNDERSTAND, HAS, UH, THIS GROUP HAS NOT BEEN TO THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND THAT, UM, IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
SO FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS, THAT WOULD MEAN OUR ONE POSSIBLE ACTION IS TO, UH, REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT OR MOTION THAT IT WOULD BE A POSTPONEMENT.
AND THEN IN THE SUBSEQUENT MONTH, UH, THE ARCHITECTURAL
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REVIEW COMMITTEE COULD WORK WITH THIS OWNER IN MORE DETAIL TO LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES OR POSSIBLY WORK ON SOME REFINEMENTS.UH, AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE DOES STILL HAVE, UH, A QUORUM OF APPOINTED MEMBERS AT THIS POINT.
WE HAVE, WE KNOW WE HAVE ONE, UH, MS. WRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, ARE YOU GONNA BE THERE? NO, NO, NO, NO.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONER COOK IS ON THE COMMITTEE AND VALENZUELA, UH, VALENZUELA, BUT I DO NOT THINK SHE WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE.
UM, HER TERM ENDS AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
THAT MAY BE A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE AS PART OF THE, UH, STAFF ITEMS AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA.
WE WILL BE ADDRESSING COMMITTEES AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.
WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD ON UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE, THERE WILL BE A QUORUM AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE QUORUM IS UP TO Y'ALL
UM, JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, UM, LET'S JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO GUM OFF THE WHEELS.
LET'S ASSUME THERE WILL BE A QUAL.
I, I CAN, UM, I, I CAN BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
UM, SO THEREFORE, UM, ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ABOUT TAKING AN ACTION? OF COURSE, WE COULD, WE COULD, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DENY, THOUGH, I WOULD SAY IF THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, WE'D PROBABLY WANNA KNOW WHY, AND THAT WOULD SUGGEST A POSTPONEMENT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE IF THAT'S THE CASE.
UH, MR. HOLLAND, PERHAPS YOU'D COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND ANSWER MY QUESTION.
UH, I NEGLECTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO MEET WITH THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE.
REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT? I I PRESENTED TO THEM BEFORE AND, UH, WE JUST, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
SO, SO, BUT FOR THIS PROJECT, YOU WOULD BE OH, SURE.
YOU'D BE WILLING TO COME FORWARD AND DISCUSS IT IN MORE DETAIL.
I, I ACTUALLY HAVE THE SCHEME NUMBER TWO WITH ME IF YOU WANT
WELL, LET, LET'S, SO WE'RE READY EITHER WAY.
I'LL MOVE TO POSTPONE TO OUR MAY 3RD MEETING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING.
COMMISSIONER COOK? UH, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
IS THAT, I'M SORRY, SECOND FROM, ALL RIGHT.
UM, UH, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER EVANS.
UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS CASE AND REFERRING, UH, TO OUR NEXT MAY 3RD MEETING AND REFERRING, UH, TO THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, INDICATE BY, UH, RAISING YOUR HAND ALL, ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.
AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE A REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING, SO WE'LL MAKE ANY, UM, I'LL STAFF WILL EMAIL YOU TOMORROW, UH, WITH THAT INFORMATION.
[19. HR-2023-026663 – 4008 Avenue G. – Discussion Hyde Park Local Historic District Council District 9]
FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM NUMBER 19.THAT'S, UH, 40 0 8 AVENUE G, AND THAT IS A PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, MS. CONTRERAS TRS.
UH, THE PROPOSAL FOR 4,008 AVENUE G, UH, IS TO REPLACE TEN ONE OVER ONE WOOD WINDOWS AT THE FRONT AND SIDES OF THE HOUSE, UH, WITH FINAL WOOD HYBRID WINDOWS WITHOUT CHANGING THE OPENING SIZES.
THE PROJECT MEETS SOME, BUT NOT ALL OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS AS THIS IS A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY TO THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO REQUEST THAT THE APPLICANT EITHER REPAIR THE EXISTING WINDOWS, IF NOT DETERIORATED BEYOND REPAIR, OR TO USE WOOD REPLACEMENT WINDOWS AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE RATHER THAN COMPOSITE.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE, UH, TO DISCUSS THE CASE? UM, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
EVENING, I MIGHT BE TALKING OUTTA TERM.
I'M ACTUALLY, UH, UH, THE HOMEOWNER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COUNTS AS THE, UH, YOU'RE, BECAUSE I'M NOT THE APPLICANT THAT'S LISTENED.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, SORRY, GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.
UH, MY NAME'S JD PENN OR JOHN DAVID PENN.
UM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN TAKE CARE OF HERE IF I ACTUALLY NEED TO CALL THE COMPANY THAT'S DOING THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT BASED ON THE PICTURES THAT WERE UP THERE, SOME OF THE INFORMATION'S ACTUALLY INACCURATE.
UM, I SAW, LIKE NUMBERS 1 0 7, 1 0 8, 1 0 9, ALL THE WINDOWS THAT ARE FACING THE STREET THAT ARE AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY REPLACING THOSE.
WE'RE ONLY REPLACING WINDOWS THAT ARE OBSCURED FROM THE STREET, OR, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE NOT VISIBLE TO THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ARE SET BACK BEHIND A BACKYARD FENCE.
IT SHOULD BE SEVEN, I BELIEVE.
UM, THE ONE WINDOW THAT IS VISIBLE IF YOU WERE TO PEEK AROUND A BUSH AND AT A VERY CERTAIN ANGLE, IS TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
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OTHER THAN THAT, THE WINDOWS THAT ARE BEHIND THE BACK FENCE AND THUS ARE ONLY VIEWABLE TO OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE.UM, OUR NEIGHBORS, I KNOW HAVE SUBMITTED, UH, FAVORABLE COMMENTS FOR THE PROJECT, UH, AND ALL ARE IN VARIOUS STATES OF DISREPAIR, EITHER INCREDIBLY LEAK PRONE, UH, INCREDIBLY DRAFTY TO THE POINT OF HAVING GAPS THAT YOU CAN PUT YOUR, LIKE PINKY FINGER AT.
AND OF COURSE, YOU SAW THE PICTURE, I'M SURE, OF THE ONE WINDOW THAT WAS PUNCHED OUT BY A, A TREE THAT, UH, MIRACULOUSLY FELL ON OUR NEIGHBOR'S ROOF AND THEN SLID DOWN LIKE IT WAS ON A SLIDE, AND THEN JUST HOLE IN ONE RIGHT THROUGH THE WINDOW AS A RESULT OF THE ICE STORM.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THE MAIN POINT HERE IS I WAS INTERPRETING IT BASED ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS A CONCERN THAT THE WINDOWS THAT ADD TO THE HISTORIC CHARM OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WE'RE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACED, AND THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY IN FAVOR OR, UH, OR TO CLARIFY THE TERMS OF THE PROJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR, UH, ISSUES FROM COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, UM, DID YOU, DID YOU CONSULT WITH ANY CONTRACTORS ABOUT REPAIRING YOUR WINDOWS, OR DID YOU MOVE STRAIGHT TO THE IDEA OF REPLACEMENT? WE CONS CONSULT.
WELL, WE CONSULTED WITH, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE ASTERISK WITH THE WINDOW COMPANY TO ASK ABOUT WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED.
AND THEY SAID BASED ON THE, UH, THE DEGREE OF DRAFTING US AND THE FACT THAT WE WERE HAVING WATER AND LIGHT RAINSTORMS LITERALLY PULLING UP ON THE SIDE, THAT IT WOULD BE MOST ENERGY EFFICIENT, MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO REPLACE ALL THE WINDOWS.
BUT AGAIN, WE WENT BACK AGAINST THEM TO SAY THAT WE DIDN'T WANT THOSE FRONT WINDOWS REPLACED.
WOULD YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN SPEAKING WITH A CONTRACTOR WHO SPECIALIZES IN WINDOW REPAIRS? WELL, SO WE GOT A CONTRACTOR WHEN WE FIRST MOVED INTO THE PLACE THAT SAID THAT WE SHOULD RE CONSIDER REC REPLACING ALL OF THE WINDOWS TO BE EN ENERGY INEFFICIENT.
BUT THAT WAS JUST LIKE A CASUAL ASIDE.
IT WASN'T NECESSARILY ANYTHING WRITTEN DOWN IN LIKE OUR HOME INSPECTION, I DON'T BELIEVE, MA'AM.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BELATEDLY MOVED ON ONCE IT WAS GETTING COLD TO ACTUALLY CALLING THE WINDOW COMPANY.
SO I GUESS INFORMALLY WE'VE CONSULTED WITH A CONTRACTOR, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEETS THE STANDARD THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ASK FOR, AND I APOLOGIZE.
WELL, I, IF I COULD, UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, MAYBE TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR COMMENT.
I THINK A LOT OF THIS, UM, SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO, UH, FOLLOW THIS ISSUE, UH, FROM MEETING TO MEETING, KNOW HOW SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC WINDOWS ARE TO THE HISTORIC FABRIC.
AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT IN IDENTIFYING IT AS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE ON THE STREET FACADES.
UM, OUR CONCERN IS NOT JUST FOR THE STREET FACADE.
UH, YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING BUILDING RIGHT NOW.
UH, IT'S POSSIBLE AT SOME POINT.
IT MAY EVEN BE, UH, THAT IN THE FUTURE, UH, YOUR PROPERTY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR LANDMARK STATUS.
I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY, BUT, UH, TO TAKE HISTORIC FABRIC THAT COULD BE REPAIRED.
UH, AND THERE ARE WAYS TO STILL EVEN ADD, UH, A LEVEL OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY WITH THE ORIGINAL HISTORIC WINDOWS.
BUT TO TAKE THOSE, REMOVE THEM AND REPLACE THEM WITH EVEN A SIMILAR LOOKING MODERN MATERIAL, UM, SHALL WE SAY, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE PREFER NOT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN.
WE KNOW IT HAS, THERE, THERE ARE REASONS WHY IT'S APPROPRIATE AT SOME POINTS, BUT, UH, TYPICALLY WHEN THOSE REQUESTS COME, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE US TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE, UM, THOSE INDICATIONS OF WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE, WHEN IT'S NOT, UH, TAKE A LOT OF JUDGMENT AND, UM, NOT KNOWING ENOUGH ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED.
UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ACTION WE'LL TAKE TONIGHT, BUT, UM, IT MAY BE THAT SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS DO WANT MORE INFORMATION, IN WHICH CASE WE COULD POSTPONE AND, AND OBTAIN THAT IN THE COURSE OF THIS NEXT MONTH.
UM, IT COULD BE THAT BY, BY STRICTLY DEALING WITH THE STUFF AT THE STREET, WE'RE HAPPY ENOUGH.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING.
IT'S NOT A, A ALREADY IN THE LANDMARKS PROGRAM.
SO, UM, THIS, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT ONLY GIVING THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU, BUT ALSO OTHERS WHO PROBABLY ARE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT REPLACEMENT WINDOWS AND WHEN'S IT APPROPRIATE.
UH, AND THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS, IS IT'S BETTER IF WE WORK WITH WHAT YOU GOT, IF IT'S AT ALL POSSIBLE.
IS THAT CAROL COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? I, I, I KNOW YOU DEAL WITH THIS MORE REGULARLY FROM THE STATE'S VANTAGE POINT, BUT IS YES, I, THAT'S A PRETTY FAIR STATEMENT.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU.
QUESTION, COME ON DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
UH, MY QUESTION IS JUST FOR THE WINDOW THAT THE TREE TOOK OUT, WHICH WAS ALREADY TOTALLY REPLACED, UH, IS THAT A DIFFERENT CASE? BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY A NEW WINDOW BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WINDOW CURRENTLY.
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UM, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, SO WOULD WINDOWS ARE EASILY REPAIRABLE MORE THAN PEOPLE WOULD ASSUME, AND WE HAVE SOME CONTRACTORS IN AUSTIN WHO SPECIALIZE IN WORKING ON WOOD WINDOWS.UM, THEY WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN VINYL WINDOWS, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING LIKE A WINDOW THAT'S BROKEN COULD ALSO BE, UM, YOU COULD REPLICATE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING COULD ESSENTIALLY REPLICATE A NEW WOOD WINDOW TO MATCH THE OTHER WOOD WINDOWS THAT YOU HAVE AND, AND EASILY ALLOW YOU TO REPLACE THAT ONE.
JUST TO CLARIFY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT WINDOW IS ALREADY MM-HMM.
I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS REQUEST? ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN AN OPPOSITION? ONCE AGAIN, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, HEARING CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND COMMISSIONER, UM, FEATHERSTON SECOND.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, UNANIMOUS, GO AHEAD.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE CASE TO, UM, MAY, WHAT'S THE DATE? MAY 3RD.
UM, AND ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANTS TO, TO SPEAK TO SOME SPECIALTY CONTRACTORS, UM, TO IDENTIFY REALLY HOW MANY OF THEIR WINDOWS ARE OR NOT REPAIRABLE, UM, AND COMPARE COSTS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND FINANCIAL DIFF, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL TERMS. OKAY.
AND THEN, UM, UH, WE OF COURSE ARE NOT IN A POSITION OF RECOMMENDING SPECIFIC, UH, COMPANIES, BUT, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD MM-HMM.
RESOURCES LIKE THAT TO FIND SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? MM-HMM.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, THE WINDOWS THAT YOU'LL BE USING, UH, WHEN, IF WE SEE YOU, UH, IN MAY OR, OR THAT YOU'LL BE REPAIRING, UH, IF, IF THIS MOTION PASSES THAT, THAT WE WOULD THEN BE SEEING YOU IN MAY.
SO, UH, I DID GET A MOTION, UH, FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, FIRST, UH, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT'S MOTION COM, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER EVANS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, UH, SORRY.
UM, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, FOR HYDE PARK THAT, UH, ORIGINAL WINDOWS BE RETAINED TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.
WHILE I THINK WE DO APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO THE IDEA THAT THE FACE OF THE HOUSE REMAINS UNTOUCHED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WINDOWS THAT YOU HAVE MAY WELL BE, UM, A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
AND SO REPLACING THEM WITH VINYL, UM, YOU KNOW, VINYL WILL NOT LAST THAT LONG.
UM, MODERN WINDOW COMPANIES MAY SAY THAT A WINDOW HAS A, UH, A LIFETIME WARRANTY, BUT OFTEN LIFETIME JUST MEANS THE EXTENT OF TIME THAT YOU PERSONALLY ARE LIVING IN THE HOUSE THAT DOESN'T TRANSFER TO FUTURE OWNERS, WHICH IS KIND OF A SIGN OF, OF HOW WELL THE PRODUCT IS KIND OF EXPECTED TO WORK.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT REPLACEMENT WITH WOOD OR REPAIR OF WOOD WINDOWS IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
UH, BUT IT'S JUST IN THE LONG RUN, IT'S, IT IS A BETTER PRODUCT FOR YOUR HOUSE TO CONTINUE FOR YOUR HOUSE.
AND SO IT'S JUST REALLY AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO GO, TO GO EXPLORE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
SO WOULD A COMMISSIONER LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT A QUESTION? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
SO THEN IF, IF YOU HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVES, YOU I WOULD, I WOULD COME TO US IN A MONTH AND PRESENT ALL OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT YOU HAVE TIME TO EXPLORE IN A MONTH.
OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO OUR MAY 3RD MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
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SEE YOU AT OUR MA MEETING.THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 24
[24. HR-2023-014850 – 503 Terrace Dr. – Consent Travis Heights – Fairview Park National Register District Council District 9]
THAT WAS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.AND THAT IS, UH, 5 0 3 TERRACE DRIVE.
UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO MODIFY A CIRCA 1929 BUNGALOW IN THE CHAVES HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT BY REMOVING THE FRONT PORCH AND FRONT EXTERIOR WALLS, UH, TO CREATE A COVERED OUTDOOR SPACE, AS WELL AS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH A HABITABLE ATTIC AT THE FRONT OF THE LOT.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS BRICK, THE STUCCO ACCENTS, UH, AND IT HAS A COMPOUND ROOF LINE WITH A CATLIKE ABLE SIDE GABLE WITH OPEN SHADE STRUCTURE AND FLAT ROOFED ENTRY PORCH WITH A BALCONY ABOVE ITS FRONT ELEVATION, INCLUDES AN ARCHED CARPORT OPEN ON TWO SIDES.
THE EXISTING HOUSE IS A ONE STORY BUNGALOW WITH HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING, A PARTIAL WIDTH PORCH BENEATH THE CLIPPED GABLE, SUPPORTED BY STONE PIERS AND BOXED COLUMNS.
SIX OVER SIX REPLACEMENT WINDOWS AND HISTORIC AGE REAR ADDITIONS.
UH, THIS HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1929 BY TED KEMP, WHO SOLD IT SHORTLY AFTER AROUND 1931.
THE NEXT OCCUPANTS WERE RA AND BERNIE BOUCHARD.
RA BOUCHARD WORKED AS A JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER AFTER THE BOUCHARD SOLD THE HOME.
RENTERS INCLUDED A GROCERY STORE EMPLOYEE, A SALESMAN, AN ENGINEER, AND A POLICE DETECTIVE, PLUMBING INSPECTOR WESLEY HELGREN, AND HIS WIFE MARIE PURCHASED THE HOME IN THE EARLY FIFTIES AND STAYED THERE UNTIL AT LEAST 1963.
UM, THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UH, FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION MEETS SOME OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS.
UM, STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINE THAT IT DOES NOT MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO COMMENT ON THE PLANS AS THIS IS A NATIONAL REGISTERED PROPERTY.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, THIS COMES TO US AS A, UM, PERMIT WITHIN THE FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
NOW, IF THIS IS NOT A FULL DEMOLITION, THEN UH, WE STILL HAVE REVIEW, WE STILL HAVE COMMENT, BUT IF WE ARE NOT IN APPROVAL, THEN, UH, IS THERE A CERTAIN A TIME LIMIT FOR ACTION THAT IS TRIGGERED? I KNOW THAT IS THE CASE.
75 DAYS FROM TODAY, 75 DAYS FROM TODAY.
SO INCLUDING THIS MEETING, THREE MEETINGS.
UH, THE OTHER ACTION, OF COURSE, THAT WE'RE ALLOWED, UH, IS IF IN FACT THIS IS A DESIGNATED LANDMARK AND THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION.
UM, SO, UH, AT THIS POINT, I JUST PUT THAT OUT FOR CLARIFICATION, AND I WILL CALL UPON THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS JOINING US BY PHONE.
UH, MR. PONCE, ARE YOU HERE BY PHONE? I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GETTING ANYBODY AT THIS POINT.
MAY I BE HAVING A TECHNICAL DIFFICULT, OH, THERE WE GO.
EDUARDO PONCE, ARE YOU THERE? HI.
UM, A LOT OF
UM, SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS INDEED A PARTIAL DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING, UH, BUNGA STRUCTURE.
UM, WE TOOK A LOOK AT A COUPLE SCENARIOS ON THIS ONE.
OBVIOUSLY RELOCATING STRUCTURE, TWO, ADDING ONTO THE STRUCTURE, UM, AND DOING IN ADDITION TO THAT.
BUT NONE ARE REALLY FEASIBLE, SO WE OPTED FOR A SLIGHT MODIFICATION AND RETAINING THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE.
UM, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES PRESENT ON THIS SITE, UM, IS HOW FAR BACK SET THE STRUCTURE IS.
IT'S ACTUALLY OVER THE EXISTING SETBACKS ON THE REAR AND THE SIDE.
UM, BUILDING OFF TO THE SIDE OF IT PRESENTS OTHER ISSUES, INCLUDING TOPOGRAPHY AND PROTECTED TREES, AS WELL AS ISSUES WITH, UM, THE MCMANSION TENT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, IS AT F THREE LOT, SO WE DO HAVE TO ADHERE TO THAT.
UM, ANY AVAILABLE EXEMPTIONS FOR A REAR SETBACK, UM, PROTRUSION, THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY, SO THAT KIND OF LEAVES US WITH PUTTING A NEW STRUCTURE IN FRONT OF THE OR REVIVAL STYLE.
UM, NOT AS COMMON IN THAT BLOCK, BUT DEFINITELY PRESENT IN OTHER AREAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THIRD STORY BEING INHABITABLE ATTIC.
UM, LET'S SEE, ONCE WE GOT HERE,
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UH, UM, AGAIN, WE DID LOOK AT A COUPLE OPTIONS.UM, WE DID TALK TO THE SR CC NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, THEY HAD SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS FOR US, ONE BEING THE ADDITION TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, JUST DUE TO THE NATURE OF WHERE THE SITE OR THE EXISTING BUNGALOW SITS, THAT PRESENTS SEVERAL ISSUES.
UM, THE OTHER COMMENT AND ISSUE WE HAD, IT'S JUST THE, THE OVERALL MASS, RIGHT? WE ARE TRYING TO DO THREE STORIES.
UM, SO PART OF THE STRATEGY ON THAT, TO KEEP IT IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE STRUCTURES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE THREE STORY VOLUME IS, UH, SET BEHIND A VERY LARGE PROTECTED, UM, LIVE OAK.
AND THEN THE LOWER ROOF THAT CURVES DOWN OVER THE CARPORT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, AND THEN THE SECOND STORY SET EVEN FURTHER BACK, UM, AND THEN ATTEMPT TO MINIMIZE THE STREET IMPACT.
THEN, UM, OPEN TO ANY FEEDBACK, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? JUST COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? YES.
SO YOUR, UM, AS I READ THE PROPOSAL PREVIOUSLY, AND I DID NOT DO, UM, AN INCREDIBLY THOROUGH JOB OF RESEARCHING ALL OF THIS, UM, IT HAD DESCRIBED THAT YOU WERE REMOVING THE FRONT PATIO FROM THE HOU FROM THE EXISTING HOUSE, BUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY REMOVING THE FRONT PATIO AND TURNING THE FRONT ROOM INTO AN OPEN AIR PORCH, ESSENTIALLY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO REMOVAL OF THE FRONT PORCH AND THEN THE, LET'S SAY ROUGHLY THE FRONT HALF OF THAT HOUSE, JUST PULLING BACK THE EXTERIOR WALLS TO MAKE IT A COVERED SPACE.
SO NO, JUST WILL MODIFICATION TO THE ROOF.
UH, LET ME ASK, UH, IF I COULD, AND YOU'RE DOING THAT TO REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE SO IT MEETS THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS OF AN ADU? UH, NO.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT CONSIDERED AN ADU.
UM, THIS WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY TO THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
SO IT ALL BELONGS TO ONE, UH, PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THIS FUNCTION AS A MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE SLASH UH, OUTDOOR SPACE.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, MR. BARNES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT.
YOU CAN STAY ON THE LINE IN CASE THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS.
I, I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
WHY WAS THIS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION? UH, WELL, WE'VE ONLY HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM OPPONENTS SYSTEM ONE.
YEAH, THERE ARE SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION.
UH, WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION, UH, THEN, UH, WE WILL ENTERTAIN A DISCUSSION FROM ANYONE WHO IS OPPOSED.
UH, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AT THE PODIUM.
FIRST WE HAVE SUSAN ARMSTRONG FISHER JOINING US BY PHONE.
MS. ARMSTRONG FISHER, PLEASE, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOU MAY PROCEED.
UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU'RE NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU.
UH, MS. ARMSTRONG FISHER, YOU'RE, YOU'RE AVAILABLE, UH, TO PROCEED, UH, AS THE FIRST SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION.
MY NAME'S SUSAN ARMSTRONG FISHER.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I'M HERE TO IGNITE, TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AT THIS JUNCTURE, THE APPLICANT DID REACH OUT TO THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE AND DID PRESENT THEIR PLANS TO US, WHICH WE REALLY APPRECIATE.
HOWEVER, WE ULTIMATELY DID NOT AGREE ON THE BEST WAY TO CREATE THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION IN TIME FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.
I'M SPEAKING INDIVIDUALLY, NOT ON BEHALF OF S RCC.
WHILE WE ARE PLEASED THAT THERE ARE PLANS TO SAVE THE ORIGINAL HOME, HAVING IT BEHIND THE VERY LARGE NEW CONSTRUCTION, ALMOST MOOTS THAT
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POINT BECAUSE EXCEPT FOR ONE TO TWO NON-CONTRIBUTING HOMES ON THE BLOCK, WHICH I BELIEVE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONGER, MUCH LONGER, WHILE BOTH SIDES OF THE BLOCK ARE ALMOST ENTIRELY INTACT CONTRIBUTING COTTAGES.AND SO THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION IS JUST TOO LARGE FOR THAT STREET AND WOULD VERY MUCH CHANGE THE CHARACTER.
WE'VE HAD AN EXCHANGE OR TWO FOR THE REASONS WHY OTHER PLANS COULD NOT BE CONSIDERED, BUT WE RAN OUT OF TIME AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO PROCEED WITH TONIGHT'S HEARING, BUT RESPECTFULLY ASKED THAT IT BE POSTPONED SO THAT WE MAY CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND THAT IT MAY BE WIN-WIN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS BLOCK FOR OUR NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THANK YOU, MR. ARMSTRONG FISHER.
UM, IS THERE ANOTHER, UH, SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION? WE HAVE FRANCISCO PASSANT.
MR. SANTE, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
UM, UH, MY NAME IS FRANCISCO PASANTE AND I LIVE IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.
I'M A RETIRED UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR OF ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION AT 5 0 3 TERRACE.
THE SITUATION THAT WE START FROM IS A RELATIVELY SMALL, LOCKED NARROW AND SHORT, WITH AN ADORABLE BUNGALOW BUILT IN THE TWENTIES AND EXPANDED IN THE FIFTIES.
IT IS A VERY SMALL BUILDING OF MAYBE 500 SQUARE FEET.
ONE STORY CITED WAY BACK IN THE FAR END, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO KEEP THE SMALL BUNGALOW WITH SOME ALTERATIONS AND TO BUILD A NEW, BIGGER HOUSE IN FRONT OF IT.
THE NEW HOUSE WILL HAVE TWO STORIES AND ABOUT F 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE GO FROM 500 TO A TOTAL OF 3000 SQUARE FEET, FROM ONE TO TWO STORIES, FROM A SMALL BUNGALOW IN THE BACK TO A BIG HOUSE IN THE FRONT.
UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY WELL THAT THE SMALL BUNGALOW NO LONGER MEETS THE NEEDS FOR A FAMILY TODAY, AND THAT MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS NEEDED.
AND I THINK THAT THE NEW HOUSE, WHICH YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, HAS A VERY SENSITIVE DESIGN, WHICH BEGINS LOW IN FRONT AND THEN RISES IN THE BACK.
BUT I THINK THAT THE NEW BUILDING IS TOO BIG FOR THIS PLOT AND TOO CLOSE TO THE STREET.
WHEN YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU EXPECT TO SEE TREES AND NOT WALLS.
WHAT COULD ONE DO? ONE COULD TRY TO EXPAND THE NEW EX, THE EXISTING BUNGALOW, KEEPING ITS CHARM.
BUT BECAUSE IT IS CITED AT THE VERY END OF THE LOT AND IS SO SMALL, ANY EXPANSION WOULD COVER THE FRONT OF IT AND HIDE IT.
THE FACT WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM THE STREET WOULD BE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, JUST AS IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.
OR ONE COULD SAY THAT GIVEN THE SMALL SCALE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, THE EXISTING BUNGALOW WILL REMAIN INVISIBLE ANYHOW.
SO WHY NOT TEAR IT DOWN AND ALLOW THE NEW CONSTRUCTION TO MOVE FURTHER BACK ON THE LOT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS OCCUPIES THE SECOND AND THE THIRD, FIFTH OF THE LOT, SO IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE STREET.
OR ONE COULD TRY TO MOVE THE EXISTING BUNGALOW FORWARD AND PUT THE ADDITION BEHIND IT, PROVIDED THE EXISTING BUNGALOW CAN BE MOVED.
MR. FAI, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS? YEAH.
OR ONE COULD SETTLE FOR LESS CUBIC FEET AND MORE ALTERNATIVES.
I THINK THAT MORE THOUGHT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO ALTERNATIVES LIKE THESE.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY BEEN IN TOUCH WITH US FOR WHICH WE ARE GRATEFUL, BUT MORE TIME IS NEEDED.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME IS UP.
ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.
PLEASE COME DOWN AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.
HELLO, MY NAME IS MELANIE MARTINEZ AND, UH, I'M A RESIDENT
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OF THE FAIRVIEW PARK NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS AND THE LAST 20 YEARS, I WAS, UH, PART OF THE GROUP THAT INITIATED OUR NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.SO WE ONLY RECENTLY ACHIEVED THAT AND IT, AND WE ARE FIGHTING EVERY WEEK, EVERY MONTH TO TRY AND KEEP THAT, UH, NUMBER OF CONTRIBUTING PROPERTIES.
SO THIS SPECIFIC AREA IS, UM, HAS A LOT OF, UH, INTEGRITY REMAINING AND A HOUSE LIKE OF THIS SCALE AND MASS JUST REALLY STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB IN THIS AREA.
AND I DON'T FEEL THAT IT MEETS THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR OUR DISTRICT.
SO, UM, I AGREE WITH THE POTENTIAL TO POSSIBLY DO SOMETHING WITH THE ORIGINAL HOUSE MOVING IT FORWARD OR, UM, ADDING ONTO THE BACK OF THE LOT, UNDERSTAND THE TREE IN FRONT.
UM, I'VE HEARD IT SAID THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY DEPEND ON A TREE TO HIDE THINGS AS WE KNOW A LOT OF 'EM WERE DAMAGED RECENTLY.
SO, UM, I JUST HOPE THAT, UH, THERE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE TIME GIVEN TO TRY TO WORK THIS OUT TO SOMETHING THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO BOTH OUR DISTRICT AND KEEPING THAT CHARACTER AND ALSO TO THE BUILDER.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR THE SPEAKERS? THE APPLICANT DOES GET A REBUTTAL AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS ON THE PHONE.
UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO, UH, PROVIDE A RESPONSE OR REBUTTAL TO THIS, THE OPPOSITION, MR. MR. POZ? YEAH.
WE DID HAVE A, UH, AGREED BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS.
UM, INTERNALLY WITHIN OUR OFFICE AND WITH THE HOMEOWNER, WE HAVE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OPTIONS.
UM, BEFORE PRESENTING THIS ONE.
UM, WE DID LOOK AT RELOCATING THE STRUCTURE.
UM, ODDLY ENOUGH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT STRUCTURE IS A SLAB ON GREAT.
SO THAT DEFINITELY COMPLICATES MOVE.
UM, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, A UH, ADDITION TO THE STRUCTURE PRESENTS A COUPLE ISSUES.
ONE, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE ALREADY BEING OVER SETBACKS, SO THAT WOULD KIND OF LIMIT TO WHERE WE CAN MOVE AS WELL AS THE REAR INWARD 45 DEGREES SLOPING MCMANSION TENT AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.
UM, AS FAR AS MOVING FURTHER BACK ON THE LOT, UM, IF WE REFERENCE THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE, UM, THERE'S A QUITE A BIT OF SLOPE TOWARDS THE BACK LEFT OF THAT LOT.
SO THAT PRESENTS A COUPLE FOUNDATION ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT WITH OUR, UM, ENGINEER AS WELL.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE THREE PROTECTED SIZE TREES ON THAT LOT AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT PRESENTS AN ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE AS FAR AS SIDING, THE STRUCTURE, ONE OF THOSE PROTECTED TREES BEING ON THE FAR BACK LEFT HAND SIDE.
SO WE REALLY CAN ENCROACH INTO THAT AREA.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF BACK AT THE SAME SCENARIO WHERE ANY ADDITION WOULD EITHER NOT FIT, UM, OR WOULD END UP, UM, IN FRONT OF THAT EXISTING BUNGALOW REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE SCENARIO IS.
UM, WE'RE NOT REALLY INCLINED AT THE MOMENT TO POSTPONE OR DISCUSS FURTHER SINCE WE HAVE LOOKED AT VARIOUS OPTIONS, UM, INTERNALLY AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED SOME OF THESE ISSUES, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? YEAH.
CAN, UM, MR. PODS CAN, CAN YOU CONFIRM THE ACCURACY OF THE NORTH ARROW ON YOUR PLANS? THAT'S REALLY THROWING ME FOR A LOOP.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS ACCURATE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? UH, EITHER MR. PONCE OR THE OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER, UM, IS, SO IS THE, THE REAR EXISTING BUNGALOW, IS IT CONTRIBUTING TO THE DISTRICT, MS. CONTRERAS? YES, IT IS.
AND SO I'M ASSUMING THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THEN, WOULD THAT MAKE THE PROPERTY NON-CONTRIBUTING? MS. CONTRERAS,
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CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? THE, UH, THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUNGALOW, UM, THAT INCLUDE THE, THE OR MODEL WOULD, UH, RENDER THIS BUILDING NON-CONTRIBUTING.BUT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION DOESN'T LIKE TECHNICALLY NO, BUT IT IS, UM, IT IS GOING TO OBSCURE THE CONTRIBUTING BUILDING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE THEIR HAND.
LET'S, UH, EVERYBODY, SO OBVIOUSLY NO OPPONENTS THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION COMMISSIONERS, I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT COMMENTS MADE TONIGHT AND, UM, RELEASE THE PLANS THIS EVENING.
SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, COMMISSIONER COOK, DO YOU HAVE, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? I, THE, THE LOT ALL AROUND? IT'S ALL UNFORTUNATE, ALWAYS UNFORTUNATE TO LOSE A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY, BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY A CHALLENGING A LOT.
THE APPLICANT SPOKE CLEARLY HAS CONSIDERED ALL OPTIONS.
UH, THEIR RESPONSES SHOW THAT THEY DID CONSIDER ALL OPTIONS, THE MASSING, TRYING TO GET THAT MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE AND A LOT WITH THIS MANY RESTRICTIONS.
I THINK THEY DID ABOUT AS WELL AS THEY COULD.
THERE IS A LARGE TWO STORY ACROSS THE STREET, NOT THAT THAT MAKES ADDING ANOTHER LARGE TWO STORY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OF THIS SCALE BETTER, BUT, UM, I JUST DON'T SEE IF THEY HAD ANY OPTIONS.
I THINK THEY TRIED, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE IN TERMS OF DESIGN.
THEY MADE AN EFFORT TO REACH OUT, THEY MADE AN EFFORT TO SET BACK THE TWO STORY MASS, UH, THE LARGER MASS.
UH, THIS WAS JUST A REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT, THEY WERE HIMMED IN AT ALL SIDES.
AND I ALWAYS FEEL STRONGLY A, TO SUPPORT AND, UH, REWARD PEOPLE WHO MAKE AN EFFORT AND WHO THINK THINGS THROUGH.
AND ALSO ALWAYS HOLD TRUE TO THE FACT THAT, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH HISTORIC PROPERTIES CAN STILL ENJOY THEIR PROPERTIES.
AND I DON'T SEE THAT THERE WAS MUCH ELSE THEY COULD HAVE DONE, UM, WITH THIS PROPERTY, GIVEN THE RESTRICTIONS ON IT TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR ANYWHERE NEAR THEIR PROGRAM.
SO I THINK IT WAS WELL ENOUGH THOUGHT THROUGH OBVIOUSLY NOT AN IDEAL SOLUTION, BUT NOT AN IDEAL SITE TO BEGIN WITH.
COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON? YEAH, I THINK COMMISSIONER COOK'S WORDS, UH, SAID IT ALL PRETTY FAIRLY AND OBJECTIVELY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
I, YOU KNOW, THE CLOSER A NEW POOL IS TO BIG STACY, THE, THE DUMBER IT IS, BUT I LOOK ON GOOGLE MAPS AND I SEE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN POOLS IN THE AREA.
THIS IS JUST FURTHER AND FURTHER FROM THE INTENT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ENJOYED BY THE PUBLIC.
UH, BUT YEAH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COOK.
ANY COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? UM, I, I'M SHARING THE AGONY THAT, UH, YOU NEIGHBORS WHO'VE PUT ALL THIS EFFORT INTO THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT ARE HAVING, UM, HERE IS YET ANOTHER CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE THAT WILL BE, UH, WILL BE COMPROMISED, UH, IF NOT REMOVED, UH, AS A RESULT OF THIS ACTION.
UH, I, I KNOW IF MY PREDECESSOR, MS. MYERS WERE HERE, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE A MUCH LONGER CONVERSATION ABOUT JUST HOW AWFUL A SITUATION THIS IS.
OUR OTHER, UH, ALTERNATIVE, UH, FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS, UH, IS TO TAKE THE CON LOOK AT THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND SEE WHETHER IT MERITS, UH, FULL LANDMARK STATUS.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RECORD TO INDICATE THAT, UH, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT AND COMMISSIONER COOK, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHY YOUR MOTION IS, IS NOT TO, UH, INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING IS BECAUSE THIS, THIS REALLY, IT'S A NICE BUILDING, BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY NOT, UH, MERIT LANDMARK STATUS.
SO, UH, THOSE ARE REALLY OUR, OUR ONLY TOOLS, UH, TO DELAY IF, UH, WE THINK THERE'S A BETTER ALTERNATIVE, UM, AND ADD OR CONTRIBUTE COMMENTS OR ACTUALLY TAKE ON THE PROPERTY AS A CANDIDATE FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK ZONING.
AND, UH, I THINK IN LIGHT OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS, UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE REALLY DON'T CONTRIBUTE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN, UH, SAY WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO COMMENT AND WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH IT.
UH, COMMISSIONER COOK RIGHT IN, IN OUR NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICTS.
WE ALSO DO HAVE THE OPTION FOR THE 180 DAY DEMOLITION DELAY WHEN THERE IS A FULL DEMOLITION.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THIS WOULD NOT APPLY IN THIS CASE BECAUSE
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IT'S NOT A FULL DEMOLITION.UM, IT'S A ZERO SUM GAME IF PEOPLE WANT TO WAIT THEIR SIX MONTHS AND CONTINUE WITH THEIR PLANS.
BUT THAT IS ANOTHER TOOL AVAILABLE TO US IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE 180 DAYS FOR THIS PROJECT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
BUT IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS, UH, THAT OFTEN IS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AS AN OPTION, BUT NOT AVAILABLE TO US HERE.
UH, ANY ANY OTHER ITEMS TO DISCUSS, THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE ON THE MOTION.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, RELEASE THE PERMIT WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
ANY OPPOSED? NO, IT DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.
[26. HR-2023-027364 – 1611 Drake Ave. – Consent Travis Heights-Fairview Park National Register District Council District 9]
WE CAN PROCEED TO ITEM NUMBER 26.UM, THAT IS 1611 DRAKE AVENUE, AND THAT IS ALSO IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
UM, THIS IS NOW A NEW CONSTRUCTION, AND ONCE AGAIN, UH, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVIEW NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
UH, MS. CONTRERAS, UH, THANK YOU.
IT IS A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A NEW RESIDENCE, UH, IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS A TWO-STORY HOUSE WITH A FRONT FACING ONE CAR GARAGE ON A VACANT LOT.
NOW IT'S CLOUD AND FIBER CEMENT SIDING WITH A SILVER STANDING SEA METAL ROOF WITH A COMPOUND ROOF FORM.
UM, IT HAS FLAT COMPONENTS AND GABLES OF VARYING HEIGHTS AND SLOPES.
FENESTRATION IS IRREGULARLY PLACED WITH UNDIVIDED FIXED AND CASE BIT WINDOWS AND SLIDING FULLY GLAZED DOORS.
THIS PROJECT DOES NOT MEET MOST OF THE APPLICABLE DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, BASED ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS NATIONAL REGISTER PROPERTY IS TO COMMENT ON THE PLANS.
UM, DO WE HAVE A APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK, UH, ON THE APPLICATION? UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF? YES, SIR.
UH, I'M HERE TO FOR, UH, UH, DAWN MOORE TAKE WITH MORE TAPE TO THE PROJECT AND DESIGNS THIS EVENING.
UM, OF COURSE, THIS IS A VACANT LOT AS IT STANDS NOW.
UH, THIS LOT WAS PURCHASED FROM ANOTHER DEVELOPER AND, UM, UH, AND, AND THE DECISION TO PURCHASE THIS IS THE FACT THAT, UH, THAT WE ARE INVESTED DEEPLY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
WE'VE, UH, SOLD AND BROUGHT IN DOZENS OF FAMILIES INTO THE AREA, UH, AND THAT HAVE BECOME GOOD PARTS, STRONG PARTS OF THE, UH, THE, UH, AREA AS WELL.
THE HOUSE, IF YOU NOTICE, IT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SET BACK A LITTLE FURTHER ON THE LOT JUST TO ALLOW FOR A SMALLER SCALE OF THE HOUSE.
I KIND OF TUCK IT BACK INTO THE LOT AND NOT BE SO IMPOSING, UH, TO THE FRONT OF THE, OF AS, AS MENTIONED IN THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT.
NOT REGARDING OUR PROPERTY, BUT, UM, THE MENTION OF THE ROOF.
WELL, THERE, THERE'S A, UM, I GUESS THAT'S IT.
UM, IS THERE ANY COMMENT FROM COMMISSIONERS OR ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, AS STAFF HAS LOOKED THIS OVER, UM, THEY'RE INDICATING THAT YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOWING MANY OF THE GUIDELINES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION IN THIS AREA.
UH, I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU MADE SOME ATTEMPT TO WORK WITH THE PLACEMENT AND THE MASSING.
UH, I I THINK IT PROBABLY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH SOME OF THE DETAILS.
ARE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE LOOKED AT AND CONSIDERED, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER, UH, LOOKING BACK AT THE RECOMMENDED, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THIS AREA? UM, I WOULD, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT, UM, LOOKING AT THE LOT AND, AND THE SPACE THAT, THAT THAT LOT DOES, UM, ALLOW FOR, UM, WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGES NEED IN ORDER TO, UH, TO BUILD, UM, A HOME, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DON HAS CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, ALL ASPECTS OF WHAT SHE CAN DO IN HER DESIGN.
UM, AND SHE'S ASKED THAT TO, YOU KNOW, IF ANYONE HAS FURTHER QUESTIONS, THEY, THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO TO VISIT WITH HER, CALL HER, OR SHE CAN SET UP AND MEET.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? AND IS THERE ANYBODY HERE IN OPPOSITION? WE HAVE SUSAN ARMSTRONG FISHER JOINING US BY PHONE WHO'S REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION FOR THIS.
MS. ARMSTRONG FISHER, YOU AVAILABLE? YES.
AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER RARE BLOCK WITH A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF REMAINING
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CONTRIBUTING HOMES.MOSTLY ONE STORY BUNGALOWS, THOUGH THE HOUSE IS APPROVED FOR DEMO OVER A YEAR AGO, AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
WE DO ASK THE COMMISSION TO HELP FOR THE NEXT BEST THING, WHICH IS TO KEEP OUR DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE DISTRICT.
AS YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN STANDARDS OR THE CORE COMPONENT OF THE PRESERVATION PLANS REQUIRED BY THE CITY FOR LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT APPLICATIONS, STAFF CONCLUDED IN ITS BACKUP THAT THE PROJECT DOES NOT MEET MOST OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS.
THE MASSING IS NOT COMPATIBLE, THE PROPORTIONS ARE NOT CONSISTENT, AND SPECIFICALLY THE FRONT FACING GARAGE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL.
AND THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE THERE FOR A REASON, JUST AS THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE THERE FOR A REASON, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT APPEARING TONIGHT, WE DO ASK THAT HE WOULD ATTEND, OR I'M SORRY, THE FIRM, THE APPLICANT WOULD ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AND WORK WITH US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A PROPERTY THAT FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD APPROPRIATELY.
THANK YOU, MR. ARMSTRONG FISHER.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? DO YOU HAVE A PLEASE COME FORWARD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YES, I'M, UM, MELANIE MARTINEZ, UH, FROM THE FAIRVIEW PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UM, I OPPOSED THIS DESIGN, UH, JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS, THE SETBACK.
I HAD ALWAYS HEARD SCALE MASSING AND SETBACK.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS REALLY HELPS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT, UH, BREAKS UP THE CONTINUITY OF THE STREET SCAPE WHEN YOU, I DON'T THINK THAT IT, UH, COMPLIMENTS, IT MORE DETRACTS IT BREAKS UP WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE STREET.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL, WILL TAKE MORE TIME IF THE APPLICANT CAN WORK WITH YOU TO TRY AND FINE TUNE THIS DESIGN AND, UH, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
DO WE KNOW IF THE APPLICANT HAS MET, I KNOW THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT HAD MET WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
UH, DO WE KNOW IF THIS APPLICANT HAS? I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT THEY HAVE.
AND THAT MAY BE A QUESTION I'LL ASK OF THE APPLICANT IN JUST A MOMENT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? OKAY, WELL THEN I DO HAVE THAT QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, HAS THE APP, DO WE KNOW IF THE APPLICANT HAS MET WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP REGARDING THE DESIGN? MR. ECKHART, YOU CAN COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
I'M TRYING TO, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A STRAIGHT ANSWER FOR THAT.
I WAS TRYING TO REACH OUT REAL QUICK IF I HAD A MINUTE TO GET A, A MESSAGE.
UM, I CAME IN KIND OF SHORT AND, AND FAST TONIGHT, SO.
SO AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW? YES, AS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
AND AS MENTIONED, YOU'VE MENTIONED ALREADY THERE WAS ANOTHER GROUP THAT OWNED THE LOT.
THEY CLEARED THE LOT OR DEMOED THE LOT APPARENTLY, UM, UH, WHATEVER FOR WHATEVER REASON DECIDED TO SELL THE LOT.
AND THEN, UH, MORE TATE PURCHASED THE LOT.
AND ONCE, YOU KNOW, AND IS TRYING TO BUILD A HOME, UH, IS MENTIONED JUST A MOMENT AGO, WORRIED ABOUT THE SETBACK.
WE'VE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOMMODATION AND PUSHING THE HOUSE FARTHER BACK INTO THE LOT.
UH, SO IT'S TO NOT BE OVER DOMINANT OF THE STREET AND TO MATCH ALONG THE REST OF THE HA THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO YOU MAY CONTINUE YOUR COMMENTS.
I PU PULLED YOU UP HERE TO ANSWER A QUESTION.
OH, BUT YOU ARE, YOU ARE ALLOWED A REBUTTAL.
UH, IF WE HAVE NO OTHER OPPONENTS, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THERE NO ONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.
SO THEN PLEASE PROCEED WITH ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMENTS AS REBUTTAL.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IT.
I, I, I DIDN'T REALIZE, I THOUGHT I WAS, I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALL DONE.
SO, UH, I APOLOGIZE FOR A BREAKING STANDARD.
I, NO, I, I ASKED, I ASKED YOU TO COME HERE FOR THAT QUESTION, SO YOU, SO YOU GOT BOTH ANYWAYS.
I, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND, UH, APPRECIATE A POSITIVE VOTE FOR US.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKERS? OKAY.
UH, WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT, UH, MOTION AND SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
SO, UM, NO NEED TO HAVE ANY FURTHER VOTE.
UM, LET'S COMMISSIONERS, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVED, UH, POSTPONED TO THE MAY 3RD, UH, MEETING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER COOK.
UH, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION? I THE DESIGN AS IS, DOES SEEM
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VERY, UM, JARRING TO ME AT FIRST BLUSH.AND I THINK THAT, UH, IT'S THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO TO LET THESE PEOPLE HAVE A LESS FORMAL SETTING TO TALK THROUGH IT WITH, UH, THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE.
COMMISSIONER COOK AND I, I AGREE THAT THERE ARE SOME KEY DETAILS THAT MAKE, COULD MAKE SOME REALLY BIG DIFFERENCES, UH, THAT ARE WORTH CONSIDERING.
OTHER COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONERS? UH, I MIGHT NOTE THAT, UM, WITH THE EXPERTISE INVOLVED IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, UH, I THINK THE OWNER WOULD ALSO DO WELL TO REACH OUT AND SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH, UH, ONE OR MORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
AND PERHAPS THE STAFF COULD ALSO HELP FACILITATE, IF NECESSARY, MAKING SOME OF THOSE CONTACTS.
UH, SO NOT JUST OUR ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE, BUT I DO THINK THAT MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE PART OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT, UM, I THINK YOU'VE MADE SOME BEGINNING, UH, UH, ACTIONS THAT MIGHT MAYBE BE PUSHING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND BE ABLE TO GET YOU A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHAT IS INTENDED IN THE, IN THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, I THINK WE CAN, UH, ANTICIPATE THAT THE TIME WOULD BE WELL SPENT IF, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TIME THAT WAY.
SO I, I CERTAINLY WILL FAVOR THE MOTION MYSELF.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL CALL THE QUESTION THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, UH, INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
I'M THEN OPPOSED, UH, THEN IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UM, AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT, THE NEXT DISCUSSION, UH, IN MAY.
UH, THAT IS ALL OF OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND THAT BRINGS US UP TO THE STAFF ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
[34. Architectural Review Committee – Updates from previous meeting. (2 vacancies)]
OR I GUESS JUST COMMITTEE UPDATES AND POSSIBLE ACTION.UM, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF VACANCIES IN OUR COMMITTEES.
UH, ALL COMMITTEE MEETINGS HAVE KIND OF BEEN PUT ON HOLD, UH, WITH THE TRANSITIONS OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON AND OFF OF THE DIAS.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN MENTION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TONIGHT.
UH, WE ONLY HAVE ONE CONFIRMED COMMISSIONER ON THAT COMMITTEE, WHICH IS, UH, COMMISSIONER KEVIN COOK.
WE NEED AT LEAST TWO COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE A QUORUM FOR A COMMITTEE AND TO HOLD THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12TH AT 3:30 PM AT THE PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
SO WE HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS AND, UH, COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
AND, UM, SHALL I SAY, WE CAN REARRANGE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS WHENEVER YOU WANT, WHENEVER WE WANT.
SO IF YOU, UH, ARE SO MOTIVATED TO JOIN THAT PARTICULAR GROUP, UH, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT WOULD BE WHERE YOU WIND UP PERMANENTLY.
UH, WE, WE HOPE EVERYONE WILL FIND, UH, THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES TO WORK IN.
BUT UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE VACANCIES, WE WILL NEED, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL MEMBERS.
SO, UM, ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? UM, AS IT TURNS OUT, WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF I HAVE TO, I WILL CERTAINLY, UH, BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
SO IT MAY ONLY BE ONE OTHER MEMBER THAT WE NEED AT THIS POINT, UH, WHO WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A QUORUM.
DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY CASES ARE THIS CASE? SO WE HAVE TWO, UH, OUTSIDE CASES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO THIS EVENING.
SO IT'D BE A TOTAL OF FOUR CASES, MAYBE AN ADDITIONAL ONE, UH, DEPENDING ON NEXT MONTH'S HLC, WE JUST STARTED PUTTING THAT MATRIX TOGETHER, BUT FOUR TO FIVE CASES, SO, YOU KNOW, THE USUAL HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS.
AND WE DO OFFER HYBRID, UM, ATTENDANCE FOR ARC.
WE ONLY NEED ONE COMMISSIONER IN PERSON AND THE OTHER ONE CAN JOIN VIRTUALLY.
UH, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE SITUATION TO WHERE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE EVERYTHING SHARED ON THE SCREEN AND BE ABLE TO GIVE, UH, FEEDBACK TO THOSE, UH, THAT ATTEND THE MEETING.
UM, SO WE, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU'RE ON THE FENCE, YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION TO JUST DO IT FROM HOME.
COMMISSIONER COOK, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I, I WILL, UH, STILL MAKE IT POSSIBLE IF ONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANTS TO STEP IN.
OTHERWISE, I THINK WE CAN MAKE A QUORUM.
I WILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND, UH, AND THEN, UH, HAVE THAT COMPLETE.
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WOULD ENCOURAGE OUR MEMBERS, UH, PARTICULARLY OUR NEW MEMBERS TO BE THINKING ABOUT, UH, COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.AND IF, UH, AGAIN, TALKING INFORMALLY ABOUT A LOT OF ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, UH, WITH OWNERS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT ALWAYS BE INTERESTED BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE TIME TO SPEND TIME WITH US IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.
UH, COMMISSIONER COOK, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ENCOURAGE OR COMMENTS AND WILL SAY WHEN THEY DO SHOW UP, THEY USUALLY ARE INTERESTED AND SO IT'S USUALLY TENDS TOWARD A PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION.
AND, UM, IT'S REWARDING TO BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOMETHING THAT IT MAY NOT BE A PRACTICE TO DEAL WITH HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT MOST DESIGNERS OR OWNERS ARE USED TO.
AND YOU CAN JUST MAKE A FEW SUGGESTIONS AND, UH, LEVERAGE QUITE A BIT OF CHANGE.
AND SO I FIND IT MORE REWARDING THAN FRUSTRATING.
THE FRUSTRATING CASES USUALLY JUST DON'T SHOW UP
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, NO ACTION IS TAKEN AT THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
THEY ARE INFORMAL MEETINGS FOR, UH, THE COMMITTEE TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANTS FOR PURE DESIGN FEEDBACK.
UM, THERE'S NO ACTION TAKEN AND IT'S A VERY INFORMAL SETTING.
YEAH, I, I'LL SAY I ATTENDED LAST MONTH'S AS A NON COMMITTEE MEMBER AND IT WAS GREAT.
AND I, I'M INTERESTED IN DOING THAT AGAIN THIS MONTH.
I HESITATE TO ACTUALLY JOIN THE COMMITTEE JUST YET.
UH, JUST BASED ON MY OWN ABILITY TO COMMIT.
ANY ANYBODY'S WELCOME TO SIT IN ON THE MEETING AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM OF COMMISSIONERS.
SO IT HAS TO BE LESS THAN SIX OF Y'ALL WHO ATTEND.
BY THE SAME TOKEN, IF SOMEBODY IS ATTENDING RIGHT NOW, UH, TEMPORARILY IF YOU WILL, UH, WE CAN BENIT YOU AND MAKE YOU A MEMBER AND THEN WE COULD GET OUR QUORUM.
UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, IF, IF, UH, IF YOU WANNA ATTEND, THEN I DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IF YOU CAN'T ATTEND, THEN I WILL.
SOUNDS LIKE COMMISSIONER HEIM, SETH AND I ARE BOTH ON THE COMMITTEE.
NO, THERE'S FOUR OF US AND ONE OF, AND ONE OF US MIGHT NOT MAKE IT.
LET'S, OUR FOUR OF US BE THERE.
IF THERE'S FOUR, THEN THREE OF YOU DO HAVE TO ATTEND IT.
IT CHANGES THE QUORUM
UH, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, IF YOU WANNA BE OUR SPECIAL GUEST, LET'S MAKE IT THAT WAY.
THAT WAY WE KNOW WE CAN HAVE THE MEETING.
AND NOW THE OTHER, THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
THE GRANTS COMMITTEE, THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE.
DO YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THEM? JANICE? SETH? UH, COULD WE GET, OH, EXCUSE ME, A, UH, A QUICK MOTION, UM, TO APPOINT THESE TEMPORARY COMMITTEE.
UH, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE SUGGESTION.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO HAVE, UH, WHAT, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, YOU'RE ALREADY ON THE COMMITTEE, ISN'T THAT RIGHT? NO, NO, SHE IS NOT.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT AND COMMISSIONER HEIN.
SETH APPOINTED AS, UH, I GUESS FOR WANT OF A BETTER TERM, JUST AS MEMBERS, WE ALWAYS CAN CHANGE IT LATER.
AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
OR, OR, OR I'LL SIGN IN REMOTELY.
SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN THAT AS A MOTION.
UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
AND SO WE HAVE STAFFED THE COMMITTEE AND WE'LL HAVE THAT HEARING, UH, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12TH AT THREE 30.
NOW, THE OTHER COMMITTEES, OPERATIONS,
[Items 35-37]
GRANTS AND PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE, UH, THERE ARE IMPORTANT ELEMENTS TO EACH OF THEIR EFFORTS.UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NO BURNING DEADLINE THAT ANY ONE OF THEM IS REQUIRING.
AND I COULD SPEAK FOR THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE, UH, THAT IN FACT, WE ARE IN TRANSITION AS WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE, UM, UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN ASSISTING US IN THE EQUITY BASED PLAN, UH, ADDING NEW MEMBERS AND GETTING THEM ORIENTED, AND THEN IDEALLY HAVING STAFF ASSISTING US.
SO AS THAT GETS CLOSER TO, UM, THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION STAGE, THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE TO REPORT.
BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE ON HOLD AS WELL.
UM, SINCE KEVIN AND I ARE THE CURRENT COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO SERVE ON THE, THE WORKING GROUP, UM, AND ASSUMING I AM NOT REAPPOINTED, WHICH IS MY ASSUMPTION HAVING NEVER HEARD FROM MY COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, DOES THE COMMISSION NEED TO APPOINT, DO WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSION MEMBER APPOINTED TO THAT WORKING GROUP? WAS THERE A THRESHOLD OR A NUMBER FOR THAT? I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
UH, AS THE PRESERVATION PLAN MEMBERS MM-HMM.
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TO HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION, UH, I THINK YOU AND COMMISSIONER COOK WERE THERE AS MUCH BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU CONTRIBUTE AS, UH, PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS, UM, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SAID BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE THEN THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE MEMBERS JUST MUTUALLY DECIDED THAT NONE OF US WOULD BE.SO I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE YOU NECESSARILY.
UH, AND IT WILL BE UP TO THE NEW PRESERVATION PLAN MEMBERS TO EITHER AFFIRM THE SAME POSITION, UH, OR CHOOSE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT JUST TO CLARIFY, IT WAS NOT SPEC SPECIFIED THAT YOU'RE THERE HOLDING A, UH, UH, AN HLC SEAT.
UH, ANY MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT COMMITTEES? UH, THE OTHER THREE COMMITTEES ARE KIND OF ON HOLD, UH, WHILE THROUGH THIS TRANSITION.
UH, I FIGURE ONCE WE HAVE A MORE COMPLETE AND CONFIRMED SET COMMISSION, WE CAN DIG INTO MORE OF THOSE COMMITTEES IN GETTING PEOPLE APPOINTED TO THEM.
WELL, AND WHEN WE GET TO ITEM NUMBER 41 ABOUT THE, UH, TRAINING AND RETREAT, THAT WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY BE ONE OF THE PRIME TOPICS.
[38. 2023 Landmark Inspection Results – Updated List]
LET'S GO TO NUMBER 38.THE, UH, 2023 LANDMARK INSPECTION RESULTS AND THE UPDATE LIST.
UM, DO WE NEED PRESENTATION ON THAT, MS. CONTRERAS? OKAY.
UH, WE MIGHT JUST GIVE AN EXPLANATION QUICKLY FOR, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS.
UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING, THE COMMISSION, UH, APPROVED THE LIST OF ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES, UH, FOR THE HISTORIC LANDMARK TAX EXEMPTION.
UM, THESE ARE PROPERTIES WHO PASSED THEIR INSPECTION THIS YEAR AND ARE LESS ELIGIBLE TO APPLY TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, FOR A TAX EXEMPTION.
UM, AND, UH, THANKFULLY WE HAVE, UH, I BELIEVE TWO NEW ADDITIONS, UH, TO THE ELIGIBILITY LIST.
UH, THESE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE, UH, COMPLETED REPAIRS ON, UM, ISSUES ON THEIR PROPERTIES, UM, THAT PREVENTED THEM FROM BEING ELIGIBLE LAST MONTH.
UH, SO, UM, WE ARE GOING TO HOPEFULLY ADD THEM TO THE LIST TODAY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, I KNOW I DON'T HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF ME.
YOU HAVE THE, THE ADDRESSES OF THOSE, UM, OWNERS.
I HIGHLIGHTED THE ONES THAT, UM, HAD PASSED.
AND CAN WE MAKE SOME COMMENTS ON THE LIST? ABSOLUTELY.
I DUNNO IF I SHOULD DO IT NOW WHILE YOU'RE PULLING UP, OR, THERE YOU GO.
SO THOSE TWO ADDRESSES THAT, UM, FIXED, UH, WHAT MADE THEM FAIL WAS 9 0 7 CONGRESS AVENUE, AND THEN 1502 WEST AVENUE.
WE HAVE PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF AND, UM, DOCUMENTED, UH, BACKUP MATERIALS SHOWING THAT THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND THEY ARE NOW ELIGIBLE FOR THEIR TAX EXEMPTION.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
COMMISSIONER COOK, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT CONCERN ON THE LIST OF FAILS THAT I SEE SIXTH STREET, SIXTH STREET.
SIXTH STREET, UM, WITH THE PRESSURE ON SIXTH STREET.
UH, THAT IS A OF CONCERN TO ME.
I ALSO SAW ON LINE 16, CONGRESS AVENUE, WHICH REMAINS A FACADE PROPPED UP BY SUPPORTS WHEN AN ABANDONED PROJECT, UH, AND I SAW 9 0 7 AND 9 0 9 I BELIEVE, WAS THERE A FIRE IN 9 0 7? AND 9 0 7? 9 0 9 WERE BROUGHT TO US.
AND, UH, DESPITE OUR OBJECTIONS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE COMPLETELY DISMANTLED.
BECAUSE THEY WERE IN IMMINENT DANGER, AND YET THEY STILL STAND.
SO I'M JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, DUE TO OUR LACK OF ENFORCEMENT OF IMMINENT DOMAIN, THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING UP TIME BOMBS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT DEAL WITH LANDMARKS ANYMORE.
UM, IT'S JUST, UH, OF A CONCERN TO ME, PARTICULARLY WITH NINE 16 CONGRESS, UH, LEFT THE WAY.
IT IS, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYONE HAS ANY INTENT OF DOING ANYTHING WITH IT.
UM, IT'S JUST CONCERNING TO ME.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS? UH, I, I'LL JUST ADD A COMMENT, WHICH IS THAT THIS IS A, A A A VERY LONG AND FOR THE MOST PART HAPPY LIST BECAUSE, UH, THE FACT IS, IS THAT EVERY YEAR MEMBERS, UH, OF THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS AND, AND PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE, UH, ESSENTIALLY ENTERED INTO A PACK WITH THE CITY, UH, HAVE, UH, AGREED THAT THEY WILL ALLOW OUR REVIEW OF THEIR HISTORIC PROPERTY IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS CORRECTION, THAT WE POINTED OUT,
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AND THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO CORRECT IT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH THESE TWO PROPERTIES.UH, THE FLIP SIDE IS, IS THAT WE HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL AND LONG-STANDING TAX ABATEMENT FOR THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN COULDN'T POSSIBLY EITHER HOPE TO OWN ALL THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WERE HISTORIC OR JUST OUT OF GOOD GRACES, HOPE THAT PEOPLE COULD, YOU KNOW, COME AND GET OUR, TAKE OUR ADVICE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO MAINTAIN THOSE HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
BUT THE PARTNERSHIP REALLY, UH, ALLOWS THE BEST OF BOTH, UH, FOR A VERY MODEST INVESTMENT.
THE CITY IS BASICALLY LEVERAGING A LOT OF INVESTMENT, UH, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.
AND IT IS ONE, UH, ITEM THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ASKED THE, UH, LOOKED AT AS PART OF OUR EQUITY BASED PLAN PROGRAM.
AND, UH, I THINK WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO MORE, EVEN MORE WITH IT.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO START RECOGNIZING JUST HOW LONG IT'S BEEN, UH, AND HOW SUCCESSFUL IT'S BEEN IN REALLY LINE BACKING, UH, THE, THE MAJOR PRESERVATION SUCCESSES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
SO, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S IN THE RECORD, UH, AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS MOTION.
SO WE HAVE, UH, AN ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE TWO ADDITIONS TO THE LIST.
UH, CAN I HAVE SOMEONE MAKE THAT SO MOVED.
AND IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER MC WATER.
UH, SO WE'LL ADD THE TWO UPDATED, UH, PROPERTIES TO THE ANNUAL INSPECTION LIST.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, RAISE YOUR HAND.
AND AGAIN, THANK, THANK THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR, UH, THEIR RESPONSIVENESS.
[39. 2023 Budget Recommendations]
39, BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.UH, WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN MOTION, WE HAVE NOT, UH, HAD OUR COMMITTEES TOGETHER TO ASK FOR OR CONSIDER SOME OF THE BUDGET REQUESTS.
UH, TYPICALLY WE AS COMMISSIONERS WILL THEN, UH, MAKE A GENERAL REQUEST.
STAFF WILL THEN FORWARD THAT ON TO THE, UH, APPROPRIATE ENTITIES.
AND, UH, WE HAVE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT THAN IDEALLY ARE FUNDED, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
UH, AT THIS POINT, I'M AWARE FROM THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE OF A FUNDING REQUEST THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY BACKUP CUZ WE JUST GOT, GOT MOVING ON IT.
UH, AND I CAN SUGGEST THAT IF, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE AGREEABLE.
UM, BEFORE I DO THAT THOUGH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM STAFF THAT, UH, WOULD REQUIRE OUR APPROVAL FOR FUNDING? NO.
COMMISSIONER, UH, THIS IS Y'ALL'S OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, MAKE THE BUDGET REQUEST FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, THE ONE ITEM, UH, THAT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION FROM, UH, UM, CARIB TRON, WHO HAS BEEN LEADING THE STAFF EFFORT AT THIS POINT FROM THE EQUITY-BASED PLAN, UH, IS THAT WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A COMMUNITY AMBASSADOR PROGRAM THAT'LL, UH, ACTUALLY DOVETAIL WITH THE WORK OF THE WORKING GROUP.
AND, UH, AS SHE'S LOOKED INTO IT AND TALKED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, IT TURNS OUT THAT, UH, HAVING A, UH, EITHER FULL OR PART-TIME COORDINATOR POSITION FOR THOSE AMBASSADORS, UH, AND THE AMBASSADORS WILL PUT IN A LOT OF EXTRA TIME AND VOLUNTEER EFFORT AS WELL.
UH, BUT TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS HELPING TO ASSIST WITH COORDINATION, UH, MAKES THAT EFFORT A WHOLE LOT MORE EFFECTIVE.
AND SO, UH, I'VE CONSULTED WITH HER AND I BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE, UH, TO ADD THAT TO OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF IF, UM, WE'D LIKE THAT.
I TYPICALLY, THE CHAIR DOESN'T PROPOSE A MOTION, BUT I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE FROM THAT COMMITTEE, SO, NO, I'M SORRY.
BUT YOU'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CAROLYN.
YOU, BUT YOU COULD, YOU COULD MAKE IT, UH, COMMISSIONER BROKEN.
UM, SO I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, PROVIDE A BUDGET FOR A COMMUNITY AMBASSADOR COORDINATOR.
AND THEN I WILL SECOND YOUR MOTION.
AND THAT, THAT BE, UH, INCLUDED IN, UH, THE REQUEST FOR A BUDGET, UH, FROM THE HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, VOTE ON THE MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
UH, SO, UH, MS. ALLEN, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT WITH OUR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BUDGET? YES.
[40. Chair/Vice Chair Elections – May/June Agenda]
LOOKING AT ITEM 40, UH, WE HAVE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR ELECTIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW, STAFF IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ANY OTHER PERSPECTIVE AT THIS POINT.SO ELECTIONS ARE TYPICALLY FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR WITHIN THE COMMISSIONER, TYPICALLY, UH, DONE IN APRIL.
UH, HOWEVER, WITH THE MANY TRANSITIONS, UH, GOING ON ON MANY DIFFERENT DIOCESE ON DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, WE HAVE GOTTEN PERMISSION FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO EXTEND THE ELECTIONS TO
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MAY.UH, THEY DO NEED TO APPEAR ON THE MAY AGENDA.
HOWEVER, IF YOU ALL WANT TO POSTPONE TO THE JUNE OR ANY, UH, OTHER MEETING, UH, TO KIND OF GIVE THE COMMISSION A MONTH OR TWO TO, YOU KNOW, GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER
UH, WE TEST, UH, I JUST DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ELECTION TERMS WITHIN THE COMMISSION GO FROM APRIL TO APRIL.
SO NEXT APRIL WE WILL STILL HAVE A, UM, ELECTION AS SCHEDULED.
UH, SO IF YOU ARE ELECTED AS CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, YOU WILL HAVE LESS THAN A YEAR, UH, ON AS THAT POSITION, UH, WITHIN THE COMMISSION, IF THAT MA IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? UH, LET ME SUGGEST THAT, UM, OF COURSE, FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS, UH, HAVING SERVED AS VICE-CHAIR UNDER OUR PRIOR CHAIR, WHEN THAT SUDDEN TRANSITION TOOK PLACE, THEN UH, IT FELL UPON ME AS TEMPORARY CHAIR TO, UH, CONDUCT THIS MEETING.
UH, AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT, OUR MAY MEETING, I WILL NOT BE HERE.
SO, UH, WE CAN, UH, I PERSONALLY, UH, THIS IS EDITORIAL HERE.
I, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE FOR NEW MEMBERS TO BE SEATED AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME UNDER THEIR BELTS.
UH, WE HAVE OTHER NEW MEMBERS THAT WILL BE JOINING US AT THE MAY MEETING.
AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE, UH, JUST AS I AM IN A TEMPORARY POSITION AS THE TEMPORARY CHAIR, BUT I VACATED THE VICE-CHAIR POSITION, I, UH, WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE A TEMPORARY VICE-CHAIR SO THAT WE ACTUALLY CAN RUN THE NEXT MEETING.
AND AT THAT POINT, YOU AS COMMISSIONERS, I WON'T BE HERE, MAY DECIDE TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE ROLES PERMANENT.
YOU MAY DECIDE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER MONTH AND HAVE THE FINAL DECISION MADE AT THE JUNE MEETING, AND THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMISSION IN MAY.
BUT IF THIS POINT, UH, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO AT LEAST HAVE A TEMPORARY VICE CHAIR SO THAT WHEN I AM NOT HERE AS THE TEMPORARY CHAIR IN MAY, THE TEMPORARY VICE CHAIR CAN RUN THE MEETING.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE CANNOT TAKE A MOTION TO, UH, HAVE A VICE CHAIR.
THIS IS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, NOT AN ACTION ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
OH, THIS IS PURELY FOR DISCUSSION.
SO, UH, SO IT GOES FROM INTERIM CHAIR TO SENIORITY.
SO WHOEVER IS, IS, UH, WHO HAS BEEN ON THE COMMISSION LONGEST, IF THEY CAN ALSO SAY NO IF THEY DON'T WANNA DO IT, AND THEN IT GOES TO THE NEXT PERSON.
WELL THE, SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THAT IS HAPPENED, UH, THEN, THEN, THEN I KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER COOK YOU IS THE, I THINK YOU'RE THE MOST SENIOR AT THIS POINT, OTHERWISE, COMMISSIONER COOK HAS AGREED TO SAY NO.
SO WHIT FEATHERSTON, DO YOU, IS IT OKAY FOR YOU TO WE CHAIR THE NEXT MEETING? I MEAN, I PREFER THE TERM SPECIAL GUEST CHAIR.
OH, IS IT BETTER? I WILL BE SURE TO ADDRESS YOU AS THE SPECIAL GUEST CHAIR ON THE RECORD NEXT MONTH.
AND THAT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM, SO, UH, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION NEEDED? ALL RIGHT, THEN.
UM, LET'S GO TO THE LAST ITEM,
[41. 2023 Commissioner Training and Retreat – Summer 2023]
WHICH IS OUR 2023 COMMISSIONER'S TRADING AND RETREAT.I THINK IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY APPARENT AFTER THIS LAST CONVERSATION THAT WE NEEDED
SO WE HAD, UH, A FORMAL TRAINING LAST YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME IN LIKE THREE YEARS BECAUSE OF, OF COVID.
UM, THOSE OF YOU WHO ATTENDED, I HOPE YOU GUYS LIKED IT BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN,
UH, A LOT OF THE SAME TOPICS ARE GONNA BE COVERED.
UH, STANDARD MOTIONS, UM, INTERNAL HISTORIC REVIEW, UM, PROCESSES, COMMISSION REVIEW PROCESSES, UH, KIND OF A BRIEF, UH, OVERVIEW OF THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT WE USE FOR EVERY SINGLE PROJECT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WE USUALLY COMBINE THAT WITH SOME OPEN DISCUSSION ON ANY PROJECTS OR, UM, CONCERNS OR INTERESTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, UH, TO BRING FORWARD, UH, AS AN OPEN DISCUSSION, USUALLY IN THE AFTERNOON.
SO, UH, I THINK JUST LIKE A REPEAT OF LAST YEAR, UH, GET SOME CATERING.
TAKE A DAY OFF WORK, COME HANG OUT,
SO, UH, I KNOW THIS SUMMER IS A BUSY TIME, UM, FOR EVERYONE.
SO IT'LL EITHER BE IN JUNE OR JULY.
I WILL SEND OUT A SURVEY TO EVERYONE TO SEE SOME DATES WHO WOULD BE THE MOST AVAILABLE, BECAUSE WE WANT, WE WANT THE MOST OF YOU ALL THERE AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO I'LL SEND OUT A SURVEY PROBABLY IN LATE APRIL, EARLY MAY TO KIND OF GAUGE WHEN THAT TRAINING WILL BE.
DO FROM OUR LAST ONE, WHICH WAS GREAT.
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FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, LIKE MEETING MINUTES FROM THAT OPEN DISCUSSION? CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE DID HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS.WRITTEN IN A NOTEBOOK SOMEWHERE AND I CAN TYPE THOSE UP.
OR MAYBE MADE IT AVAILABLE EVEN AHEAD OF TIME.
JUST TYPE 'EM UP AND PUT 'EM AS BACK UP.
ELSE YOU HAVE, I'M FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT COMMISSIONER THAT WAS DIGITIZED, SO, UM, THAT MIGHT ALSO BE, UH, OF INTEREST.
UM, AND I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO ADD ON TO AMBER'S, UH, EXPLANATION.
UM, PLEASE BE THINKING OF TOPICS THAT Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN.
UM, OTHER THAN KIND OF THE STANDARD, UH, COMMISSION PROCEDURES, UM, FOR OUR TRAINING.
UM, THIS IS ALSO AN ITEM, AND I'M BEING A LITTLE BIT OPTIMISTIC HERE.
UH, IF WE HAD AN OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, UM, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT, UH, THEY WOULD BE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN AS WELL.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY INTERESTED IN OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, THAT MIGHT BE, UH, ONE OF YOUR TASKS.
I'M, I'M ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AND I DO WHATEVER AMBER TELLS ME TO DO.
AND, AND I CAN JUST SAY COMMISSIONERS.
UH, AND I, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS ALSO WHO'LL BE JOINING US.
UH, I DO THINK WITH ALL THE CHANGE, THIS IS A CHANCE FOR US TO TAKE STOCK AGAIN, IN WHAT WORKS AND WHAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
UH, MAYBE ALSO HOW, UH, WE DO MORE TO PROMOTE THAT.
UH, BY THE FLIP SIDE, UH, OBVIOUSLY SEVERAL GROUPS, INCLUDING THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE, UH, HAVE BEEN BEEN LOOKING AT PLACES WHERE WE JUST AREN'T AS EFFECTIVE AS WE MIGHT.
AND I, I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE US AND WE CAN PUT TOGETHER THAT AGENDA AS WE PLAN IT.
UH, WE'LL DO THE TRAINING, WE'LL MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE UP TO SPEED.
BUT I ALSO THINK SOMETIME TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE VISION AND THE EFFECTIVENESS, UH, FOR ALL OF US AS VOLUNTEERS, UH, WE, I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, I THINK, COME TO SOME VERY, UH, EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA SEE IF WE CAN ORGANIZE AS WELL, UH, THE COURSE OF THAT AS, AS BOTH TRAINING AND REALLY EMPHASIZING THE RETREAT PART AS WELL.
UM, MAYBE WE CAN SHIFT THE TRAINING INTO LIKE A RETREAT.
YEAH, AS LONG AS IT'S POSTED, IT'S TECHNICALLY, YOU KNOW, TRAINING.
UM, WE HAVE COME TO THE END OF OUR POSTED AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEM OF BUSINESS THAT COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ALERT US TO? ALL RIGHT.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR ADJOURNMENT.
UH, THAT'S NOT A DISCUSSION ITEM.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY, AYE.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME, UH, HANDOUTS FROM THE, UH, THE REUSE PEOPLE.
THE REUSE PEOPLE, IF YOU GUYS WANT ONE.
AND I'LL HANG BACK FOR ANY DISCUSSIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
GOT MY BROTHER YOU SAID YOU, YOU MADE EVERY GOOD THING ABOUT ME.