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IT'S, UH, 6 35 30 6:00 PM HERE, AND WE ARE AT THE AUSTIN CITY HALL.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MAY 1ST, 2023 REGULAR MEETING OF THE, OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION TO ORDER.
IF, UH, EVERYONE HAS HAD TIME TO REVIEW THE DRAFT MINUTES FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL 3RD, 2023, AND OFF THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL 8TH.
PLEASE, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
YES, KIM, UH, DON'T FORGET THE CITIZEN.
I MEAN, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS, AND THEN THE, ALRIGHT.
[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL ]
UH, OKAY.LET ME GO BACK, UH, TO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
YEAH, YOU JUST CAN CALL THE PEOPLE.
I DON'T HAVE A LIST OF FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE, UH, MR. TAMAR WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
UH, MY NAME IS TOMA WILLIAMS AND I'M A MUSICIAN IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.
AND ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF EQ AUSTIN.
UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO, OH, SORRY.
UM, I WAS PART OF THE TEAM THAT WAS WORKING ON THE AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS SURVEY AND, UM, JUST SORT OF READING SOME SITUATIONS THAT JUST CAME OUT NOT TOO LONG AGO.
THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF HAS DECIDED NOT TO RELEASE THE DATA OF THE MUSIC CENSUS SURVEY THAT, UH, MANY OF US ACTUALLY PUT HARD WORK, HARDWORKING TOO, AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PUT A LOT OF ENERGY.
AND, UM, SO, UM, I WENT ON K U T X ALSO, UH, K X A N NEWS AND DID A FEW INTERVIEWS AND TO KIND OF GET THE WORD OUT THERE AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THE RESULTS ARE, I THINK IS, I THINK IS NOT COOL.
AND, UM, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THIS CITY, OOH, MAN, SINCE 1985 AS A MUSICIAN, AND TO SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, AND NOW WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY AND NOT RELEASING THE DATA, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE HOW FAR WE COME.
AND SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE HOW YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING IF YOU HAVEN'T, IF YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW THE, UH, RESULTS OF THE ACTUAL, UH, OF THE CENSUS.
AND, UM, SORRY, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS HERE CUZ I WAS KIND OF CALLED A LITTLE EARLY TO COME AND DO THIS, SO, UM, BUT ACTUALLY I DID TAKE A LOT OF ENERGY MYSELF TO PUT INTO THIS, WORKING WITH DON PITTS, YOU KNOW, ALSO K U T X, UH, JUICE CONSULTING, EQ AUSTIN, UM, JUST TO NAME A FEW.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT THE 2014 CENSUS SURVEY AND THE INCREASE FROM THE, UH, THE BLACK COMMUNITY ACTUALLY MUSICIANS WAS AMAZING.
I'M LOOKING HERE FROM A 3.6 PARTICIPANT, IT WENT UP TO LIKE 5.9.
SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND THOSE NUMBERS JUMPED SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND, UM, AND SO WE HAD TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD IN THIS CITY, AS WE CALL THEM, LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, AS MUSICIANS, AND, YOU KNOW, AND TRYING TO NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE THING WHERE IT'S AT, POINTING THE FINGERS AT ONE ANOTHER.
WE HAVE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION KNOWING THAT THE INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE RELEASED.
SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT SIDE YOU GUYS LAY ON, BUT I FEEL AS THOUGH THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND AS THIS CITY, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE DISPARITY FROM DIFFERENT PARTS, BEING THAT WE STAY IN.
SO MANY OF, SO MANY OF US STAY LIKE IN CALDWELL COUNTY OR EVEN HAYES COUNTY OR WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
AND, UM, AND NOT KNOWING WHAT YOUR WORD, I MEAN, WHAT'S YOUR VOICE, YOU KNOW, CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR VOICE DID TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THEN HOW YOU KNOW HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THAT IS MY TAKE ON THE, SO SORRY, MY
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TIME IS UP.THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU.
I'M GONNA GET BEEPED BEFORE I FINISH MAKING A PRESENTATION ON THIS PROJECT, SO I'LL TRY AND SPEAK AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME SLIDES AND SOME HANDOUTS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION A PROJECT THAT'S ON 11TH STREET EAST 11TH STREET, UH, TWO BLOCKS, ABOUT TWO ACRES, UM, ON EAST 11TH STREET IN THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
A E D C HAS BEEN WORKING FOR THE PAST YEAR ON BEHALF OF THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE TWO BLOCKS.
AND I WANTED TO CATCH Y'ALL UP AND I COME BACK IN, UM, JUNE TO MAKE SURE TO BRING, HAVE A, A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
UM, WE'VE REALLY DONE THE LAST NINE MONTHS, A PRETTY EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
UM, BUILDING ON ABOUT 20 YEARS OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE TWO BLOCKS, PROBABLY 30.
UM, LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES THAT WOULD BOTH, UM, CEMENT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN LEGACY IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT AS MUCH AS LOOKING FUTURE FORWARD AND MAKING SURE WE'VE GOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, CULTURAL VENUES, UM, SOME COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DISTRICT AND SPECIFICALLY LEGACY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME.
WE'VE GOT DEFINITELY A NUMBER OF VISION STATEMENTS AND A LOT OF, UM, INPUT THAT HAS COME IN OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS.
AND THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD HAS BEEN DISCUSSING IN THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS, WHICH IS I THINK THE THIRD MONDAY OF THE MONTH OF A LOT OF PUBLIC RECORD ON THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WOULD GO INTO A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'RE REALLY ASSEMBLING THE COMMUNICATION TO DEVELOPERS TO SELECT THE BEST PARTNER TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THESE TWO, THESE TWO PARCELS.
GO MAYBE TWO SLIDES FURTHER, I THINK.
SO THIS IS EAST 11TH, SO I'M JUMPING OVER A LARGER MAP.
BUT THE TWO RED BLOCKS, UM, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS BLOCK 18, WHICH SURROUNDS THE VICTORY GRILL.
UM, AND THEN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS BLOCK 16, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL AND HERITAGE FACILITY.
UM, THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT BLOCKS AND WE'RE PART OF AN ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN FOR IN THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
AND LAST SEPTEMBER COUNCIL VOTED SOME UPDATES TO THIS BASE ZONING IN THE DISTRICT, WHICH THEN MIRRORS THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN.
SO I THINK ONE OR TWO MORE, I'M JUST GONNA, I'M REALLY TRYING TO SPEED.
SO THIS IS NOT A DESIGN FOR THESE TWO BLOCKS.
THIS WAS BASED ON OUR TECHNICAL ANALYSIS TO LOOK AT WHAT FITS, UH, WITH THE CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDOR AND THE NCC D NCCD ZONING.
UM, THE TEAM FELT THAT THIS WAS THE BEST ARRANGEMENT OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROGRAM ELEMENTS.
UM, ABOUT 120 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, COULD FIT ON THESE BLOCKS WHILE MAKING ROOM FOR ABOUT 30,000 SQUARE FOOT OF CULTURE, UH, THAT IS IN THE GREEN THERE.
UH, BLUE WOULD BE OFFICE SPACE FOR CREATIVES, NONPROFITS, AND OTHERS THAT WOULD WANT TO HAVE A WORKING SPACE IN THE AREA.
AND BLUE REPRESENTS SMALL BUSINESS RETAIL AND OR A FOOD-BASED RETAIL.
LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT A GROCERY, UH, HEB WON'T FIT ON THESE BLOCKS, BUT WHAT KIND OF GROCERY THAT COULD HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING, UH, PRICE POINTS.
SO THESE TWO ARE, THESE ARE NOT THE DESIGN, BUT IT'S WHAT WE THINK IS A MARKET FEASIBLE PROJECT.
AND WE'LL BE COMMUNICATING TO THE, TO THE DEVELOPER, UM, SOME REQUIREMENTS AND OBJECTIVES AND PRIORITIES THAT THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD AND THE FOLKS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS WORK SO FAR COULD FIT.
AND LET'S GO REALLY QUICKLY TO MAYBE THE, SO THERE'S ALL ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, WE ARE NOW GOING INTO WRITING THE RFP THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY COME OUT IN JUNE, ALTHOUGH EVERYTHING TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT IT WOULD COME SOON AND HAVE A TWO-STEP PROCESS TO SELECT A DEVELOPER, IDEALLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
UM, WE'VE BEEN HOSTING SOME ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT EVENTS AND I REALLY WANT Y'ALL TO COME, UM, MAY 15TH AND JUNE 19TH AT SEVEN 30.
WE'RE HOSTING THIS AT KENNY DORAN BACKYARD.
UH, WE HAD A GREAT NIGHT LAST WEEK.
UM, I HAVE A NEW STAFF MEMBER AND IT WAS HIS FIRST NIGHT AT WORK AND HE LASTED UNTIL 10 30.
SO IT WAS A FANTASTIC TIME AND A REALLY LOW-KEY WAY TO START TO SEE SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT REPRESENT, UH, THE DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERING ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, THE VISION REALIZED ON THESE TWO BLOCKS.
UH, AND CERTAINLY WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPDATE YOU AND THIS IS A LINK WHERE YOU CAN FIND SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES AND I'M HAPPY TO ADD ANYONE TO THE DISTRIBUTION LIST.
DID I DO THAT IN THREE MINUTES? YOU DID, YEAH.
SORRY, I KNOW YOU CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL BE BACK IN JUNE AND BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
I'LL LIKE TO INVITE, UH, STONE MILLER.
I WAS, I READ MY NAME UP THERE.
UM, CAN I HAVE MY SLIDE PRESENTATION UP AND DOES THIS CLICKER
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WORK? OKAY, GOOD.I WROTE THE BOOK ABOUT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 2017, PUBLISHED BY TEXAS A AND M PRESS.
IT'S CALLED THE BROKEN SPOKE AUSTIN'S LEGENDARY HONKY TONK.
THE WHITE FAMILY'S NOT HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, BUT I FELT LIKE THAT I NEEDED TO COME AND TELL YOU THAT ON MAY 18TH, THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL WILL BE VOTING ON WHETHER TO GIVE THE BROKEN SPOKE HISTORIC ZONING.
AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL RECOMMEND THAT JAMES ANTA WHITE OPENED THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1964.
THIS IS ONE OF THEIR PICTURES OF THAT TIME.
UM, I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER JUST OUTTA RESPECT FOR THE SPEAKER WHO'S ALSO SIGNED UP FOR THAT ITEM, WHICH WOULD GIVE YOU MORE TIME, WOULD YOU PREFER TO YOU, YOU'RE WELCOME TO TAKE YOUR THREE MINUTES.
UM, BUT IF YOU RUN OUTTA TIME OR DON'T FEEL RUSHED, YOU HAVE ANOTHER SIX MINUTES BECAUSE YOU'RE SIGNED UP ON THE OTHER, ON THE ITEM SPECIFICALLY.
AND THEN WE CAN ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
SO I WOULD JUST GO AND SIT DOWN AND THEN COME BACK LATER.
THE, THE OTHER, UH, COULD WE ALSO, UM, MOTION TO MOVE THAT AGENDA ITEM UP ON THE, ON THE LIST SO THAT WE COULD OKAY.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY TOO LONG.
WE JUST, I THINK WE, YEAH, COMPREHENSIVE.
I'M TALKING TO ANN CHARLOTTE CAUSE I TALK TO YOU.
IT'S, IT'S BETTER FOR YOUR, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SEE THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
IF YOU, YOU CAN JUST TAKE THAT DOWN THEN.
WE GOT THE GUY SITTING BEHIND.
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WE MOVE ON TO, UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.I HOPE I'M IN THE RIGHT ORDER THIS TIME, KIM? YES.
SO, WELL, IF EVERYONE HAD TIME TO, UH, REVIEW THE DRAFT MINUTES FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL 3RD AND ALSO FROM THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION ON APRIL 8TH, UH, PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.
IS SHE ALLOWED TO VOTE FROM THERE OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT?
DID YOU SEE ME VOTE? I'M SORRY, I WAS LOOKING, I WAS SCANNING THE MINUTES REALLY QUICK WHILE WE GOT YOU.
SO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS IS HISTORY OF MUSIC COMMISSION AND HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES AFTER PRESENTATION BY CHAIR.
SO I HAVE TO REQUEST SOME TIME FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HERE ON THIS ONE TOPIC.
I WOULD, UH, COULD, ARE WE, ARE WE INTO DISCUSSION ITEMS AT THIS POINT? YES.
IF WE COULD, COULD I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE, UM, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION AND BROKEN SPOKE? UM, AND DO THAT? YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? GOOD TO GO.
DID WE, DID WE APPROVE THE JOINT MEETING AS WELL? YEAH, I KNOW.
[6. Discussion and possible action on Broken Spoke venue and property receiving historical zoning designation status. ]
YEAH.SO WE ARE MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON BROKEN SPOKE VENUE AND PROPERTY RECEIVING HISTORICAL ZONING, UH, DESIGNATION STATUS.
WELL, I'M JUST GONNA START SORT OF AT THE THIRD OR FOURTH SLIDE HERE WITH THE GEEN SAW BROTHERS, BECAUSE THEY WERE THE LONGEST RUNNING ACT AT THE BROKEN SPOKEN.
THEY STARTED IN 64 AND STOPPED IN 2005.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU'RE OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHO BOB WILLS WAS, BUT HE WAS A VERY FAMOUS COUNTRY SWING FRONT MAN WHO PLAYED FIDDLE WITH THE TEXAS PLAYBOYS.
HE PLAYED AT THE BROKE AND SPOKE WARREN SMITH AND DAVE PERRY BAND, ONE OF THE FIRST BANDS TO PLAY AT THE BROKEN SPOKE, NOT THAT WELL KNOWN, BUT VERY LOCAL, BUT RECOGNIZED THIS SPACE.
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SOLO AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1968.NO BEARD, SHORT HAIR, A TURTLENECK, AND A SPORTS COAT,
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS, OH, THERE WE GO.
UH, AND THEN JIMMY DAY, PAUL ENGLISH AND WILLIE NELSON BEGAN PERFORMING AT THE BROKEN SPOKE TOGETHER IN 69.
HE CONTINUED TO PLAY AT THE BROKEN, SPOKE FOR PRIVATE PARTIES UP UNTIL 19, NO, 2015 FOR THE GIRLING PARTIES.
HANK THOMPSON PLAYED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1965 KITTY WELLS, THE QUEEN OF COUNTRY MUSIC PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKEN, THE 1970S PATSU MONTANA PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE ALSO IN THE 1970S.
AND GEORGE STRAIT PERFORMED BEGINNING IN 1975 AT THE BROKEN SPOKE AT THE INVITATION OF ALVIN CROWE, WHO'S SORT OF A RESIDENCY ACT AT THE BROKEN SPOKE.
UM, HE PLAYED A, A GIG TO TAKE THE PLACE OF ALVIN CROWE AND BEGAN TO PLAY THERE REGULARLY WITH HIS BAND ACE IN THE WHOLE BAND ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 1980S WHEN HE MADE IT BIG WITH HIS HIT UNWOUND.
AND HE LOVED THE BROKEN SPOKE AND THE WHITES SO MUCH THAT HE'S RECENT ALBUM.
JUST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, HONKY TONK TAR MACHINE FEATURES A PICTURE OF THE BROKEN SPOKE ON THE COVER, AND HE MADE A MUSIC VIDEO TO GO WITH IT WITH MR. WHITE, THE LATE JAMES WHITE WHO PASSED AWAY.
MARSHA BALL BEGAN PLAYING AT THE BROKEN SPOKE, KNOWN AS FRIDA AND THE FIRE DOGS WITH LLOYD DOGGETT.
HIS FIRST CAMPAIGN PARTY HELD AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1973.
AND HERE'S A PICTURE WITH GARY P NONE HOME WITH THE ARMADILLO SINGING WITH JIMMY DAY AT THE BROKEN SPOKE RAY BENSON AND HIS SLEEP AT THE WHEEL MOVED FROM CALIFORNIA TO TEXAS TO AUSTIN TO PLAY AT THE BROKEN SPOKE, AND BEGAN PLAYING THERE IN THE 1970S.
ERNEST TUB PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE BEGINNING IN 1969.
HERE HE IS ON STAGE WITH JERRY, JEFF WALKER AND JOE ELEY.
JEFF BEGAN PERFORMING AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN THE 1970S, WAS A VERY CLOSE FRIEND OF MR. WHITE'S AND USED TO HANG OUT IN THE KITCHEN AFTER HE PLAYED, AND MR. WHITE WOULD GIVE HIM A RIDE HOME.
THE TEXAS PLAYBOYS PERFORMED A REUNION AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1975 SONS OF THE PIONEERS, 1970S JOHNNY BUSH, THE LATE JOHNNY BUSH, OFTEN PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE THROUGHOUT THE 1970S GOING INTO THE EIGHTIES.
AND HERE'S ONE OF THE TEXAS PLAYBOYS LEON RUSH, PERFORMING WITH ALVIN CROWE.
DWIGHT YOAKUM PERFORMED WITH THE GEEN LAWS ON STAGE IN 1980.
FRED FENDER PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE JOHNNY RODRIGUEZ AND FRIENDS AT THE BROKEN SPOKE AND THE LATE RAY PRIZE PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1990.
K***Y FRIEDMAN, JOE ELEY, BILLY JOE SHAVER AND MARY HATTERSLEY PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 2006.
AND THEN IN 1990 WHEN WILLIE NELSON HAD HIS TAX TROUBLES, JAMES WHITE PUT A FIVE GALLON PICKLE JAR ON THE BAR, AND HE COLLECTED THROUGH DONATIONS $10,000 AND SENT IT TO WILLIE, WHO WAS STAYING IN HAWAII AFTER HE LOST EVERYTHING EXCEPT HIS GUITAR TRIGGER.
AND HE CALLED MR. WHITE AND HE THANKED HIM AT CHRISTMAS.
HE SAYS, I'M COMING HOME FROM CHRISTMAS AND I'M BRINGING MY GOOD FRIEND CHRIS CHRISTOFFERSON.
AND THEY PERFORMED ON STAGE AT THE BROKEN SPOKE.
AS YOU CAN SEE WITH JOE ELEY IN THE BACKGROUND, WILLIE NELSON AND CHRIS CHRISTOFFERSON.
AND DOUG SA, THE LATE DOUG SOM, PERFORMING WITH ALVIN CROW SONS OF JOHNNY CASH, JAMES WHITE WITH JOE ELIE, GARY P NUN, AND JIMMY DAY GILMORE.
AND CHRIS WALL ALSO HAD A BROKEN SPOKE SERIES AT THE IRWIN CENTER ONCE A MONTH IN THE 1990S.
AND THEY'D BRING MR. WHITE'S COUP DEVILLE AND THEY'D BRING THE HAY BALES AND THE BARBECUE RIGHT OUT FRONT.
IT WAS A WAY TO BRING THE BROKEN, SPOKE TO PEOPLE IN THE ORCHESTRA, SET PEOPLE WHO HAD NEVER REALLY STEPPED INSIDE THE BROKEN SPOKE.
DOLLY PARTON FILMED HER WILD TEXAS WIND TV MOVIE AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1991.
ORIGINALLY THE FILM WAS GONNA BE CALLED BIG T, BUT NBC SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A MOVIE STAR IN DOLLY PARTON NAMED BIG T
SO THEY NAMED IT WILD TEXAS WIND
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JUNIOR BROWN, JERRY JEFF WALKER, LE RE LEROY PORN PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1993.AND THEN JOE E. LEE AND MARTY STEWART, TRAVIS TRT, AND JIMMY DALE GILMORE GOT TOGETHER AND PERFORMED THERE.
BLUES PIANO PLAYER, JOE WILLIE PINETOP PERKINS, PERFORMED AND SOLD AS CDS AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 2006.
I'M OUTTA TIME, BUT I HOPE THAT YOU'LL VISIT THE BROKEN SPOKE AND YOU'LL GIVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE IT HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AH, SO YOU CAN STAY AT THE DI AT THE PODIUM WHILE WE ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
WHEN YOU WOULD SPEAK ON AN ITEM.
YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS, ANY QUESTIONS FROM MS. MILLER? YES.
WERE THERE MORE? WERE THERE MORE SLIDES? THERE ARE MORE SLIDES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER THAT IS, BUT IF YOU PUT IT UP THERE, ALL ZOOMED THROUGH.
UM, AND ACTUALLY PINETOP PERKINS WAS PLAYING, UM, FOR THE OWNERS OF WATERLOO RECORDS THAT NIGHT, AND THEY GOT MARRIED CUZ THEY HAD LIVED TOGETHER FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
HE GOT UP ON STAGE AND STARTED SELLING HIS CDS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEDDING CEREMONY AND
AND JAMES SLIM HAND BEGAN PERFORMING IN 2006.
UM, BROOKS AND DUNN, THEY PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1990, AND THEY LOVED THE BROKEN SPOKE SO MUCH THAT THE BACKDROP FOR THEIR LAS VEGAS RESIDENCY SHOW ALWAYS HAD A PICTURE, A GIANT PICTURE OF THE BROKEN SPOKE.
PAULINE REESE AND JACK INGRAM BEGAN PLAYING AT THE BROKEN SPOKEN 2008 AND JACK INGRAM VISIT AS OFTEN, AND SO DOES PAULINE DALE WATSON PLAYS AT THE BROKEN SPOKE TO THIS DAY, AND STARTED IN THE 1990S.
I I LIE WHEN I DRINK AND I DRINK CEL LOT.
JASON ROBERTS PLAYED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE WAS TO SLEEP AT THE WHEEL, AND NOW HE HAS HIS OWN BAND AND HIS OWN ALBUMS, AND HE ALSO PLAYS, CONTINUES TO PLAY.
I ALREADY SHOWED DWIGHT YOAKUM.
BRUCE ROBINSON BEGAN PERFORMING AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN THE 1990S, UM, FORMERLY MARRIED TO KELLY WILLIS.
HE'S THE ONE THAT, THAT WROTE THIS SONG ABOUT THE SOLDIER IN VIETNAM, THAT THE DIXIE CHICKS PERFORMED.
THE DERAILERS BEGAN PERFORMING AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN TWO THOUSANDS, AND THEY STILL PLAY THERE.
THEY WERE THERE THIS LAST SATURDAY NIGHT AND JACK INGRAM PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN THE TWO THOUSANDS.
SCOTT BYRON, PATRICIA VAUGHN AND ROSIE FLORES PERFORMED TOGETHER AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 2014.
AND PATRICIA VAUGHN IS ROBERT RODRIGUEZ'S SISTER LUCKY TUB.
AND JESSE DAYTON PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 2014.
WELDON HENSON HAS THE TWO STEP TUESDAY, EVERY TUESDAY AT THE BROKEN SPOKE, AND THAT'S THE BEST DANCERS IN THE WORLD.
KEVIN FOWLER BEGAN PERFORMING AT THE BROKEN SPOKE, AND HE WROTE A COUPLE OF SONGS ABOUT COLD BEER AND, AND HOT WOMEN THAT MADE IT BIG AND GOT BROKEN.
SPOKE OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC.
ALVIN CROWE, WE CALL THE LONGEST RUNNING ACT AT THE BROKEN SPOKE, PERFORMING SINCE 1974.
AND HE RECENTLY WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE WHITE FAMILY FOR HIS LONGEVITY AS A RESIDENCY.
TWO TONS OF STEEL GOT THEIR START AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 2000.
SHELLY KING PERFORMED AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 2014.
MONTY WARDEN BEGAN PERFORMING AT THE BROKEN SPOKE IN 1991, AND HE STILL DOES AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH WITH HIS WAGONEERS.
HE'S A BIG SONGWRITER FOR GEORGE STRAIT, BY THE WAY.
HE'S WRITTEN SEVERAL HITS FOR HIM.
WILLIE NELSON AND RAY BENSON PERFORMED TOGETHER AT THE BROKEN SMOKE.
I SAID 2015 EARLIER, BUT IT WAS 2016 WAS THE LAST PRIVATE PARTY THEY PLAYED THERE FOR THE GIRLING FAMILY AND GARTH BROOKS.
PATRICK'S DAY 2017 DURING THE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.
AND HE WAS SPEAKING AT SOUTH BY, AND I WAS COVERING THAT AND HE SENT A TWEET THAT SAID HE WAS GONNA GO OUT ON THE TOWN AND HE HAD A PICTURE OF A BROKEN WAGON WHEEL AND ANYBODY PAYING ATTENTION HURRIED OVER TO THE BROKEN SPOKE.
AND WHEN WE GOT THERE, HE WAS MEETING IN THE BACK PARKING LOT, THE DIRT PARKING LOT WITH MR. WHITE.
AND WE WALKED IN AND I GOT FRONT AND CENTER OF VIDEO THAT'S STILL ON THE K K'S WEBSITE TO THIS DAY.
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WHEN HE WAS ALL DONE, HE GAVE MR. WHITE'S GUITAR AND HE SAID IF THERE WERE PLACES LIKE THIS WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN OKLAHOMA, I NEVER WOULD'VE LEFT.BROKEN SPOKE OPENED IN 1964 AND JAMES WHITE PLANNED TO KEEP IT ROLLING AND HIS FAMILY CONTINUES THE LEGACY.
WE HAVE FIVE GENERATIONS OF THE WHITE FAMILY, THREE OF WHICH ARE MANAGING THE BUSINESS AND DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, THE INVENTORY BOOKING BANDS, AND THEY CONTINUE WITH MRS. WHITE, THE WIDOW OF JAMES WHITE TO KEEP THE BROKEN SPOKE RUNNING.
IT IS A FAMILY OWNED, THE LONGEST FAMILY OWNED HONKY TONK IN TEXAS.
AND IT IS OPERATED ON LAND THAT IS OWNED BY CWS CAPITAL PARTNERS, LLC, WHO BOUGHT IT FROM TRANSWESTERN DEVELOPERS WHO BOUGHT IT FROM RIVERSIDE RESOURCES, WHO BOUGHT IT FROM THE ORIGINAL OWNER WHO JUST HAPPENED TO BE JAY JOHNSON.
AND HE WAS A FORMER CITY COUNCILMAN.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE, I, I MEAN IT MAY BE OBVIOUS, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR US THE SIGNIFICANCE OF WHAT A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION WOULD MEAN FOR THE BROKEN SPOKE? YES.
WE, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE A TEXAS HISTORICAL MARKER AT THE BROKEN SPOKE AND IT'S, IT WAS INSTALLED JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO ON THE FACADE, THE FRONT.
AND IT DOES DESIGNATE IT, AND IT DOES ALLOW PEOPLE TO, TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS A ORIGINAL HONKY TONK THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS.
BUT I THINK THAT THE HISTORIC ZONING WOULD FURTHER PROTECT THE BUILDING FROM I THINK DEMOLITION OR ANY, UH, OTHER TYPE OF ACTIVITIES THAT, THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED DAMAGING TO THE STRUCTURE.
IT ALSO OPENS UP THE DOOR FOR THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT.
I THINK ONE OF THE CRITERIA WHICH WE APPLIED FOR, UM, WAS THAT THEY GET THAT HISTORIC ZONING AND IT COULD MEAN UPWARDS OF $170,000 FOR THE ROOF TO BE REPAIRED AND, AND SOME OTHER THINGS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
AND I CONTINUE TO WRITE GRANTS THAT REQUIRE HISTORIC ZONING AND DESIGNATION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MUSIC VENUES THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF IN AUSTIN THAT HAVE THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, MUSIC VENUES THAT HAVE HISTORIC DESIGNATION AT THIS TIME? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE AS IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, SO MANY VENUES HAVE GONE AWAY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST NOT HAVING THE FORESIGHT TO ASK FOR DESIGNATION.
WE'VE LOST, UM, THE, UH, JUST MY MIND IS, IS BLANK RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE HAVE LOST SEVERAL, I THINK VENUES, MUSIC VENUES IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, MOSTLY THREAD GILLS.
AND BEFORE THAT, OF COURSE, THE ARMADILLO.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE CACTUS CAFE HAS HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
UM, I KNOW THE CON THE CONTINENTAL CLUB DOES NOT, BUT IT ALSO HAS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE, UM, SINCE THE FIFTIES.
IT'S HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT OWNERS.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU WILL, TO SECURE OLD AUSTIN WHILE NEW AUSTIN IS BEING BUILT AROUND IT.
MR. WHITE, WHEN HE WAS ALIVE, USED TO COMPARE THE BROKEN SPOKE TO THE ALAMO BECAUSE THEY'RE SQUISHED BETWEEN THOSE TWO HIGH-RISE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ON EITHER SIDE.
AND YOU HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SORT OF SURROUNDED BY STEEL AND CONCRETE.
AND TO PRESERVE OLD AUSTIN WHILE WE ARE BUILDING ALL OF THESE NEW BUILDINGS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MARRIED THERE, THEY REMEMBER THEIR PARENTS HAVING ANNIVERSARY PARTIES, THERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOUNG PEOPLE LEARNING TO, TO DANCE WITH THEIR GRANDPARENTS THERE.
AND IT'S A VERY, UH, FAMILY, FAMILY ORIENTED PLACE.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE CHEMISTRY? UH, NO, I GUESS I'M GOOD.
SO, UH, IN TERMS OF LIKE THE PLANNING, UM, WITH, WITH THE, THE CWS CAPITAL PARTNERS AND STUFF, YOU, YOU MENTIONED ON, ON THE PHONE WITH ME THAT THERE WAS LIKE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PHASES THAT WERE, UM, IN THE WORKS OR POSSIBLY IN THE WORKS, BASICALLY LIKE THE BUILDINGS ON EITHER SIDE OR LIKE A AND C AND SOMETHING THAT THERE'S ANOTHER BUILDING LIKE
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UP THE WAY JUST A LITTLE BIT THAT'S D OR WHATEVER.AND THIS WOULD POSSIBLY, CAN YOU JUST LIKE EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH.
UM, WELL, RIVERSIDE RESOURCES, WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE LAND, THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
TRANSWESTERN DEVELOPERS WERE THE ONES THAT PUT THE MULTI-USE COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN THAT'S KNOWN AS THE 7 0 4 ON EITHER SIDE.
AND THERE'S AN A BUILDING AND A C BUILDING.
UM, WE, WE KNOW THAT, THAT THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR LEASE.
THEY GET, THEY'VE HAD FIVE YEAR LEASES WITH THE, THE NEW, THE LANDOWNERS, UM, WITH THE OPTION TO RENEW.
BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY A, A STRONG COMFORTABLE LEASE.
AND YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW ATTORNEYS ARE NEGOTIATING FOR A LONGER TERM LEASE.
TO SECURE THE, THE BROKENS BOOK SPOKE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHEN, WHEN THE ATTORNEY CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK, HE SAID THAT HIS NAME WAS SUBTLE AND HE SAID THAT, THAT, UM, THEY HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WHITES AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE FEELINGS TOWARDS THE BROKEN SPOKE OR THE WHITE FAMILY THAT OWNS IT.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'LL SELL TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER, MAYBE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE LLC IS, IS IS COMPRISED OF HUNDREDS OF INVESTORS THAT MEET, I THINK QUARTERLY.
AND, AND SO MANY OF THEM HAVE NEVER SEEN THE BROKEN SPOKE.
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S PART OF THAT BLOCK OF PROPERTY PROBABLY.
AND THE BROKEN SPOKE IS KNOWN INTERNATIONALLY BY COUNTRY MUSIC LOVERS OF LIVE MUSIC.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THAT LLC KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
CAN I ASK UNDERSTAND SUSAN? YEAH.
SO CAN YOU TELL US, SO YOU SAID THIS JUST WENT BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION.
DID THEY MAKE A DECISION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED.
FOR HISTORIC ZONING? THEY DID.
DID YOU GUYS ARE THE LAST STOP BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR US.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETS ON THE 18TH.
I THINK THIS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR THE ENTIRE MUSIC COMMUNITY.
I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER ALDO'S QUESTION ABOUT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THIS SETS WITH PRECEDENT.
SO I WOULD, UM, LIKE TO MOTION THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION SUPPORT, UH, OR RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE BROKEN SPOKE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AND, UH, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER VELA TO, CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION? YEAH.
SO THE MOTION IS THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDS HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE BROKEN SPOKE.
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UM, THERE'S, SO I WAS LOOKING AT THE AGENDA FOR THE WORK SESSION FOR COUNSEL.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE ON THEIR AGENDA FOR THE WORK SESSION THAT'S ON TOMORROW, UM, MAY 2ND.
THEY DON'T HAVE, UM, ANYTHING ON THEIR AGENDA FOR THAT.
AND THIS IS MAYBE LIKE A LOGISTICS QUESTION.
I'M NOT SURE CUZ I'M NEWLY IGNORANT TO THIS STUFF.
BUT A COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST, COULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT LIKE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, I THINK IF THIS HAS GONE THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNING'S A REGULATORY COMMISSION.
SO THAT IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY GO FORTH TO COUNCIL.
AND THEY'LL PUT, IT'LL BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA AT SOME POINT.
AND IT MAY GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR SUPPORT AS WELL.
SO, UM, UNLESS FOR SOME REASON SOMEBODY PULLS IT.
SO IT'S A GREAT THING FOR US TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO.
AND, UM, YEAH, SO SCOTT, THANK YOU FOR CHECKING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WORK SESSION AND IF YOU CAN KEEP US UPDATED ON WHEN IT'S COMING BEFORE COUNCIL, IF I'LL LOOK TO, BUT LET'S TOGETHER TRY TO, LET'S TRY TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.
[2. History of Music Commission and Hotel Occupancy Taxes after presentation by Chair, Nagavalli Medicharla. ]
ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, HISTORY OF MUSIC COMMISSION AND HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES AFTER PRESENTATION BY CHAIR, UH, MYSELF,WELL, I WANTED TO PREFACE THIS BY THE FACT THAT I'VE, I'VE SPENT A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS ON THIS COMMISSION AND I'VE BEEN REALLY KEEN TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION.
AND ALSO WHEN I LANDED HERE, IT WAS IN THE TAKE OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
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WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE HISTORY? WHAT WERE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND HOT TAXES IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY AND AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION, AND WHAT WAS THE GENESIS? HOW DID THE DISCUSSIONS EVOLVE? WHAT WERE THE DISCUSSIONS AROUND DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION PERTAINING TO THE HOT FUNDS AND JUST HOW THINGS MOVED.AND SO THAT'S WHY I PUT THIS ITEM TOGETHER BECAUSE I, I WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS ABLE TO GATHER UP IN TERMS OF SOME KEY MILESTONES AROUND THE HOTMAN.
A LOT OF US EITHER HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR A FEW YEARS, LANDED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LIFE AND DISCUSSIONS, OR RE VERY RECENTLY JOINED.
SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.
SO BY THE TIME SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST STARTED THE AUSTIN CITY GOVERNMENT STARTED TO SEE MUSIC AS AN ECONOMIC FORCE.
AND WITH THE HONORABLE PRYOR COUNCIL MEMBER MAX NOFZIGER TAKING A LEAD, THIS MUSIC COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, I BELIEVE IN 1988.
UH, BRAD, I'LL LET YOU CORRECT IT IF I'M WRONG ON THAT, BUT NANCY COPLAN, WHO LOT OF US KNOW AS THE FIRST MUSIC CHAIR AND COMMERCIAL MUSIC EVENTS SUCH AS SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST AND THEN ACL, THEY BRING A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THESE HOT TAXES.
AND 35, ALMOST 35 YEARS LATER, COMMERCIAL MUSIC FINALLY CAN ACCESS THE HEART THAT IT HAS PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN CREATING.
AND BEFORE I KIND OF GO ON THROUGH WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT MILESTONES IN THE EVOLUTION OF THIS FUND, I WOULD, UH, LOVE TO INVITE, UH, FORMER MUSIC COMMISSION CHAIR, UM, MR. BRAD STEIN, WHO KINDLY AGREED TO BE HERE TO, UH, THROW SOME LIGHT ON AND, AND SHARE HIS PERSPECTIVE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD, UH, LOVE TO DO, MAYBE EVERY COUPLE OF SESSIONS, UH, GOING FORWARD, IS TO BRING, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, FOLKS WHO HAVE PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST SO THAT WE CAN, UH, HAVE THAT THERE, THAT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
UH, MR. STEIN EVENING COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU.
UH, WE NEVER GOT TO SIT IN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
WE WERE ALWAYS OVER THERE IN THAT ROOM, SO PRETTY COOL.
UM, YEAH, I WAS, UH, I WAS THE CHAIR OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION FROM 2004 TO 2011.
UM, AND THEN AT THAT TIME THERE WAS A, UM, MUSIC ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION THAT WAS FOUNDED AUSTIN MUSIC PEOPLE.
UM, SO I WAS HELPING RUN THAT, AND THEN THAT KIND OF WENT AWAY AND KIND OF EQ AUSTIN, SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS KIND OF SPROUTED FROM THAT.
UM, AND THEN I RAN THE AUSTIN MUSIC FOUNDATION OF 5 0 1
UM, AND THEN JUST RECENTLY I JOINED THE BOARD OF THE, UM, AEDC.
SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH ANNE ON, UM, A LOT OF THOSE INITIATIVES TO HELP PRESERVE MUSIC VENUES.
UH, SO WE DID A LOT OF WORK, UM, WITH KIND OF LOOKING AT THE HOT FUNDS AND HOW WE COULD USE THOSE FUNDS, UM, TO HELP SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC IN AUSTIN.
UM, WE SAW THAT AS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT FUNDING SOURCE.
AND THIS AROUND THIS TIME WAS ABOUT 2012 OR 2013.
UM, SO THE WORK WAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY INITIATIVE LED BY THE MUSIC COMMISSION.
UM, SO AT THAT TIME, UH, WE WANTED TO HAVE, UH, RESOURCES TO HELP US, UM, KIND OF MAKE OUR PITCH TO CITY LEADERSHIP.
AND SO WE HAD, UH, JOHN HOCKNEYS, UM, WHO'S AN ECONOMIST HERE.
UM, HE HAD DONE A, UM, A STUDY THAT WAS, CAME OUT OF THE FIRST MUSIC CENSUS.
UM, AND WHAT HE, UH, DISCOVERED WAS THAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THE ANNUAL ECONOMIC IMPACT WAS 1.6 BILLION.
UM, 800 MILLION OF THAT WAS KIND OF THROUGH, UM, UM, COMMERCIALIZATION OF MUSIC.
UM, AND THIS WAS THE LIVE MUSIC INDUSTRY, 800 MILLION WAS TOURISM RELATED.
AND SO WHAT THAT SHOWED IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, THE LIVE MUSIC INDUSTRY WAS A REAL, UM, IMPACTFUL BUSINESS AND THE CITY, UM, ON PAR WITH, UM, TECHNOLOGY OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT IN TERMS OF JOB CREATION, JOB GROWTH, AND ECONOMIC IMPACT.
AND SO THAT, UM, STUDY KIND OF HELPED US HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
SO THEN, UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, THE HOT FUNDING, WHICH AT THAT POINT IN 2000, UM, 12 WAS 55 MILLION A YEAR.
UM, AND THE HOT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX THAT'S GENERATED FROM THE HOTELS.
UM, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT ALL THE HOTELS THAT WERE BEING DEVELOPED AT THAT TIME, AND IT WAS GONNA BE ADDITIONAL 3,200 HOTEL
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ROOMS THAT WERE GONNA BE COMING ONLINE AND OVER A 24 TO 36 MONTH PERIOD.AND WE SAID, WITH THOSE HOTEL ROOMS, YOU'RE GONNA INCREASE THE OCCUPANCY TAX, UH, 13 MILLION.
UM, THE 55 MILLION OF ANNUAL OCCUPANCY TAX WAS SPLIT THREE WAYS.
THE AUSTIN CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, UH, THE CONVENTION CENTER AND, UM, AND CULTURAL, UM, ARTS FUNDING.
UM, AND SO WE, WHEN WE FIRST KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS IDEA OF ALL THIS NEW MONEY THAT WAS COMING IN, EVERYBODY WAS VERY PROTECTIVE.
UM, EVERYBODY WAS VERY PROTECTIVE ABOUT NOT WANTING, UM, THEIR FUNDS, UM, TOUCHED.
UM, AND SO WHAT, WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS MAYBE LOOKING AT THIS NEW FUNDING AND TAKING SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE THE FUNDING THAT THEY CONSISTENTLY HAD FOR PREVIOUS YEARS.
BUT AT THIS NEW FUNDING, THE 13 MILLION IN FUNDING, MAYBE 20% OF THAT, WHICH WAS ABOUT 2.6 MILLION WOULD GO TOWARDS LIVE MUSIC.
UM, AND SO AT, AT FIRST, UM, WE MET A LOT OF RESISTANCE.
UM, THEN WE SAT DOWN WITH THE HOTELS AND I THINK THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THE, UM, I THINK THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THE PROFITABILITY OF THEIR HOTELS WAS IN PART TIED TO THE LIVE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
SO NOBODY DISPUTED THAT, BUT THEY THOUGHT THAT THERE MIGHT BE, UM, SOME ISSUES WITH THE LEGALITY OF DIVERTING ADDITIONAL HOT FUNDS TOWARDS MUSIC.
SO THEN WE LOOKED AT SETTING UP DIFFERENT FUNDING ME MECHANISMS, WHETHER IT WAS, UM, UH, VENUE PRESERVATION MUSIC, UH, FUNDS THAT COULD GO TOWARDS, UM, LIVE MUSIC EVENTS AND SUPPORTING, UH, LIVE MUSIC EVENTS.
AND WE LOOKED AT, UM, MECHANISMS THAT MIGHT BE LEGAL.
THE MAYOR'S OMNIBUS RESOLUTION KIND OF TOOK THAT OVER.
AND THEN THERE WAS HOT FUNDS THAT WERE ULTIMATELY, UM, ALLOCATED TOWARDS, UM, THE ICONIC MUSIC VENUES.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF A LONG STORY ABOUT KIND OF WHERE WE STARTED AND HOW ULTIMATELY WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, CAPTURE SOME OF THAT, UM, HOT FUNDING TO, UM, ALLOCATE IT TOWARDS LIVE MUSIC.
UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR MR. STEIN HERE? OKAY, WELL, I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE THEM.
THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO.
THANK YOU ALL THAT, THAT, UH, FOR ME, I THINK THAT THAT GIVES US A REAL PERSPECTIVE OF HOW LONG STANDING THESE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN.
UM, AND, UM, UH, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A, A WHOLE SLEW OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS, INDUSTRY MEMBERS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT NOW HAVE EVOLVED INTO WHAT WE CALL THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WE WILL DEFINITELY BE AVAILING OF YOU, SWEETIE.
SO ONE OF THE, SO SOME OF THE, I WAS, I WAS TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO GO OVER A CERTAIN TIMELINE, AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND TIMELINE AND HOW IT EVOLVED, IT STARTED IN 2014 WITH, UH, STEVE ADLER AT THAT TIME RUNNING FOR MAYOR OF AUSTIN ON A PLATFORM THAT INCLUDES ADVOCATING FOR COMMERCIAL MUSIC AND DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.
2015, OUR OWN, UH, EX-COM COMMISSIONER GAVIN GARCIA WAS ELECTED CHAIR OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION.
AND DURING THIS TIME, HE PURSUED HOT FOR COMMERCIAL MUSIC, INCLUDING, UH, INCLUDING DIVERSITY.
2016 AND FEBRUARY, AGAIN, MAYOR RADLER INTRODUCED, UH, WHAT BRAD REFERRED TO EARLIER, THE MUSIC AND CREATIVE ECOSYSTEM, OMNIBUS RESOLUTION CHER GARCIA ENTERS THE OMNIBUS A DI COMPONENT, DEVELOP A STRATEGY TO INTEGRATE AUSTIN'S MUSIC DIVERSITY THROUGH GENRES AND SUBGENRES, INCLUDING DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES AND COMMUNITIES THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A BUSINESS SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PROMOTES NEW EMERGING TALENT.
APRIL, 2016, CHAIRS GARCIA AND FLORES FROM THE ARTS, UH, UH, CON CONVENE A JOINT MEETING OF THE MUSIC AND THE ARTS COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THE OMNI.
THIS IS THE FIRST, UH, JOINT MEETING OF THE TWO GROUPS LIKE THE ONE WE HAD YESTERDAY.
AUGUST, 2016, THE VISITOR IMPACT TASK FORCE WAS CREATED AND APPROVED BY THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL.
MOVING ON THE TASK FORCE IN THE FALL OF 2016 WITH, UH, THE MUSIC INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES, GARCIA AND CATLIN WITHINGTON FROM, UH, SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST AT THAT TIME, AND MEETINGS WITH TASK FORCES, ARTS COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE LULU FLORES AND ARTS ADVOCATE COOKIE RUIZ, THEY DISCUSSED
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THE POSSIBILITY OF COMMERCIAL MUSIC RECEIVING HOT FUNDS AT THAT TIME.IN DECEMBER, 2016, THE TASK FORCE HELD ITS FIRST MEETING WITH VARIOUS INDUSTRY INTERESTS FROM HOTEL, RESTAURANTS, WORKFORCE, UH, ARTS, MUSIC, EVENTS, PARKS, ET CETERA, TO DISCUSS THE HOT FUNDS.
AND THEN MR. JAMES RUSSELL AND MARY BIN RAMSEY FROM THE ARTS, UH, COMMUNITY AS THE ARTS COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE LED DISCUSSIONS ON SHARING ART FUNDS.
THAT WAS THE TIME WHEN THERE WERE ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS AROUND SHARING THE ART FUNDS BETWEEN THE ARTS, THE CULTURAL ARTS, AND, UH, COMMERCIAL MUSIC.
THIS TASK FORCE THEN RECOMMENDED THAT THE HOT FUNDS BE UTILIZED FOR COMMERCIAL MUSIC.
AND INCLUDED IN THIS RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WITH REGARD TO ALL USERS OF THE HOT TAXES, EQUITY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND FUNDING SHOULD BE INCLUSIVE AND REFLECT THE DIVERSITY OF THIS COMMUNITY WITH SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR UNDERSERVED AREAS AND UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES.
AND WITHIN THIS, WHERE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF FUNDING RECOMMENDED, SUCH AS INCUBATOR FUNDING FOR BUSINESSES WITH ONE OR TWO YEARS OF HISTORY, GROWTH, EXPANSION, GRANT FUNDING, WHICH LATER BECAME THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND ARTIST AS ENTREPRENEUR CORE FUNDING, WHICH SUPPORTED THIS IDEA OF STIMULATING GROWTH.
AND IN DECEMBER TWO, AFTER THE SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS STARTING ALL THE WAY BACK FROM, UH, WHEN MR. STEIN WAS ON THE COMMISSION, EVENTUALLY LANDED IN WHAT WE CALL TODAY THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
THAT WAS, THAT HAPPENED IN, ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2019.
AFTER THAT SOME OF US HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION.
AND IN JULY, ON JULY 6TH, 2020, THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP WAS ESTABLISHED, LED BY MUSIC COMMISSIONER CHAKA MAHO, AND CHAIR MAHO, ALSO STRONGLY LED THE FRAMEWORK OF PI FOR ESTABLISHING D E I CRITERIA FOR THE GRANT OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUNDS.
IN FEBRUARY THIS YEAR, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION FOR APPROVING THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATION CONTRACT WITH THE LONG CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS LED BY NONE OTHER THAN, UH, THAN MUSIC COMMISSIONER, CHAIR, MR. UH, PATTERSON HERE, AND THEN APRIL 4TH.
AS WE ALL KNOW, THE APPLICATIONS OPEN TO PUBLIC.
SO IT'S, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS OVER THE YEARS WHO HAVE WORKED SO HARD AND PARTICIPATED ACTIVELY IN THESE CONVERSATIONS TO BRING TO FRUITION WHAT WE TODAY CALL THE LIVE MUSIC FUN.
IT'S, IT'S NOT LOST ON ME THAT, AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING TOO PERSONAL BECAUSE I CRY EASY THEN
I AM AN, I'M AN IMMIGRANT FROM, UH, MUMBAI, INDIA, AND I'VE BEEN IN THIS CITY FOR 20 YEARS, 22 YEARS OF CALLED THIS MY HOME.
IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY TO TRAVIS.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, BUT HERE I AM.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMISSION, FIRST OF ALL FOR VOTING FOR ME, AND FOR TRUSTING ME WITH THIS RESPONSIBILITY.
I WANNA THANK, UH, NOW I SHARE, UH, PATTERSON, UH, FOR THE AMAZING WORK THAT SHE HAS DONE ON THIS COMMISSION AND HOW DEDICATED SHE HAS BEEN AS A CHAIR AND CONTINUES TO BE FOR THE CAUSE OF, UH, OUR MUSIC INDUSTRY.
WHEN I VISIT THIS KIND OF INFORMATION AND I SEE FOLKS COME IN AND TALK LIKE MR. STEIN DID, ABOUT ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAD, AND ALSO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM, IT IS, IT IS, WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL IN WHAT SERVES THE BEST FOR THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
WE HAVE BEEN APPOINTED HERE, THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN APPOINTED HERE BY COUNCIL.
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TO COUNCIL TO SERVE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.FOR ME, THIS LIVE MUSIC FUND BELONGS TO THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
IT DOESN'T BELONG TO THE COMMISSION.
IN PRINCIPLE, IT DOESN'T BELONG TO ED D OR GOVERNMENT OR ANYBODY.
THESE FUNDS BELONG TO OUR CREATIVE COMMUNITIES.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT, AND THIS IS NO COMMENTARY ON HISTORY, BUT SINCE I HAVE THIS HONOR TO SIT HERE AND SHARE THIS COMMISSION RIGHT NOW, MY HOPE IS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS COMMISSION WITH ENGAGING AND BEING OPEN TO THE BROADEST SWATH OF MUSIC INDUSTRY STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE CAN MOVING FORWARD.
THAT WE ARE OPEN TO LISTENING TO EACH AND EVERYBODY, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND OR CULTURE OR HISTORY IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, THAT WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SERVE THE BROADEST SWAT OF MUSIC INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS.
THAT IS MUSICIANS, VENUE OPERATORS, SOUND ENGINEERS, PEOPLE WORKING IN THE BARS TO KEEP THE VENUES RUNNING.
AND THAT'S WHERE MY INTENTIONALITY IS, IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH INCLUSIVENESS IN A MANNER THAT EVERYBODY IS HEARD ON THIS COMMISSION.
AND EVERY JUDGMENT CALL THAT WE MAKE SERVES THE BROADEST SET OF STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT I CHAIR THE BOARD OF EQ AUSTIN CURRENTLY.
IT IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS SOLELY FOCUSED ON DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND EQUITY IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
AND SO THAT IS A TOPIC THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO MY HEART OUTSIDE OF THIS WORK AND MY OWN PROFESSIONAL WORK AND MY MUSIC PROFESSION, ALL THAT, THAT'S WHERE I FOCUS A LOT OF MY ENERGY IS IN BUILDING DIVERSITY AND EQUITY WITHIN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
BUT I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE SUSTAINABLE GOALS, WHETHER IT IS D E I OR ON ANY OTHER TOPIC ON THIS COMMISSION.
AND WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, ONLY OUR, AT LEAST MAINLY THROUGH RELATIONSHIP BUILDING, THROUGH BEING OPEN MINDED TO OTHER PEOPLE'S IDEAS, THROUGH CREATING WIN-WIN SITUATIONS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT AS WE BUILD VALUE FOR THE BROADEST SET OF STAKEHOLDERS, THAT IS WHAT IS GONNA HELP US CREATE SUSTAINABLE.
AND I EMPHASIZE THE WORD SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS.
SO WITH THAT INTENTIONALITY, I, I HOPE, AND I WOULD LOOK FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HERE, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT YOU WOULD ALSO BE OPEN AND WILLING TO GO ON THIS JOURNEY.
EVERYBODY'S VOLUNTEERING HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IMPORTANT THINGS YOU'RE TAKING, TAKING TIME AWAY FROM, UH, BEING HERE AND SPENDING THE TIME HERE.
SO I HAVE NO INTEREST IN WASTING ANYBODY'S TIME.
SO YOU WON'T HAVE SUCH LONG AGENDA ITEMS MOVING FORWARD FROM ME,
BUT, UM, LET'S, LET'S PICK TOPICS.
LET'S, LET'S PICK ISSUES THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE PICK HERE AT THE COMMISSION, PLEASE, LET'S PICK ON PICK TOPICS AND ISSUES THAT WE CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY AND, UH, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE, KEEP HAVING AN IMPACT.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME.
IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
YOU, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
UM, UH, FIRST OFF, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT ONLY THE, THE, THE, THE FIRST, UM, ASIAN AMERICAN, UM, CHAIR OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UM, YOU ARE ALSO AN INCREDIBLE ARTIST AND, UM, WITH THE SOLD OUT SHOW AT PARAMOUNT STATE SITE, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW,
UM, I AM ABSOLUTELY LOOKING FORWARD TO ENGAGING IN, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHERE, UM, WHERE THINGS GO AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ROADS WE TAKE.
AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY GREAT THING.
I THINK IT'S GONNA, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN AMAZING THING.
AND I, I'M LOOKING FOR, I MEAN, WE HAVE A, A BRAND NEW FACES HERE AS WELL.
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THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAVE CAREERS IN MUSIC AND IT'S INEVITABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, GOTTA BE ISSUES AND THINGS THAT COME UP AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE, WE'RE MUSICIANS FOR ONE THING, AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TRUSTED TO SIT BEHIND A DIAS FOR SOME ODD REASON.AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING TO BE PASSIONATE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UM, UM, UH, WE, WE, WE HAVE TO KEEP THE CORN TO KEEP OUR JOBS.
BUT LIKE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO, TO, TO BE MINDFUL OF.
THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SIT ON THIS COMMISSION, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK A POSSIBILITY AND A, AND A, AND A AND A NOT A POSSIBILITY, BUT THERE'S JUST A POTENTIAL FOR THINGS TO GET JUST A LITTLE BIT SKEWED BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE AND BECAUSE OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE, THAT WE CAN'T POSSIBLY MAKE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THIS DIAS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE PRAYING FOR SUNSHINE AND SOME PEOPLE ARE PRAYING FOR RING, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PLEASE EVERYBODY.
I THINK THAT'S JUST GONNA BE AN INEVITABLE THING.
UM, I THINK BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, WHO WE'RE WITH, WHO WE'RE INVOLVED WITH CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE, THAT ARE HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM ARE PARAMOUNT IN TANTAMOUNT TO THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE AS WE REQUEST AGENDA ITEMS AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNSEL RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHATNOT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT.
AND I, AND I DO ABSOLUTELY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING, UM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE, SPEARHEAD THIS AND, AND TAKE US IN A DIRECTION THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE A YEAR FROM NOW.
I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, BUT YEAH, ALSO THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT, OF COURSE MEANS A LOT TO ME.
OH, I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING AS WELL.
IS IT, OH, I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING AS WELL.
SO, UM, CONGRATULATIONS FIRST OF ALL NAALI, AND, UH, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MUSIC COMMISSION HISTORY AND ALSO PRESENT IN FUTURE, I WONDER, UH, IF OUR NEW, UH, COMMISSIONERS WOULD TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
STARTING WITH MS. TAMMY BLEVINS.
UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? MY NAME'S TAMMY BLEVINS.
UM, I HAVE LIVED IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, MOSTLY ON THE OFF SINCE 1997.
I MOVED HERE, UM, SAYS WORKING WITH A BAND, I'M NOT A MUSICIAN, NOBODY WANTS THAT
BUT I'VE, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE, LIKE I SAID, SINCE 1997.
I WORK IN THE, UM, IN THE, UH, PRODUCTION LIKE EVENT PRODUCTION SPACE, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE FINALLY.
YEAH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE.
AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE ADRIAN LAKE, UH, DISTRICT FIVE.
UM, MY RELATIONSHIP WITH AUSTIN MUSIC GOES WAY BACK, AND I'LL SPARE YOU THE LONG STORY BECAUSE IT IS LONG AND STORIED, BUT WHEN I WAS 18, I CAME OUT HERE ON THE WAY TO, UH, NEW ORLEANS AND JUST FELL IN LOVE AND THREW MYSELF INTO THE MUSIC SCENE HERE.
UM, AND LOOKED FOR EVERY EXCUSE TO COME AND VISIT FROM WHEREVER I WAS LIVING, WHICH WAS AT FIRST TUCSON, ARIZONA, THEN LOS ANGELES.
UM, I GOT MY FIRST JOB IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AT A VENUE WHEN I WAS 18.
UH, THE ONLY VENUE MY PARENTS WOULD ALLOW ME TO GO TO WHEN I WAS UNDERAGE, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING IN MUSIC EVER SINCE AS A TALENT BUYER.
UM, WHEN I LIVED IN LOS ANGELES, I WORKED AT RECORD LABELS, UM, I DID A AND R AND I'VE, I'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS IN MUSIC, JUST, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.
AND, UM, MY LAST TWO POSITIONS WERE, UH, SENIOR TALENT BUYER AT HERD PRESENTS AND THEN SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.
AND THEN WHEN WE WERE ALL, ALMOST ALL OF US WERE LAID OFF BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
I STARTED MY OWN BUSINESS WHERE WE DO CONSULTING FOR BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS, AND ARTISTS.
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WE ALSO DO PR JUST SORT OF WHAT EVERYBODY NEEDS BECAUSE THERE SEEM TO BE A REAL NEED FOR THAT HERE IN TOWN.AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE, I DON'T WANNA USE THE WORD POLITICS BECAUSE IT'S MORE LIKE ACTIVISM OF THE, THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT WAS BEING INVOLVED WITH THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, AUSTIN MUSIC FOUNDATION, UM, SIMS FOUNDATION.
AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO BE UP HERE AND BE A PART OF IT FROM THIS VIEWPOINT.
AND I'M SO GLAD YOU SAID EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, VO AND I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND I SHARE YOUR POSITIVE ATTITUDE.
AND JUST A QUICK FAREWELL TO COMMISSIONERS PATRICE PIKE AND STUART SULLIVAN WHO'VE ROLLED OFF OF COMMISSION.
UM, STUART, LONGTIME PRODUCER IN THIS TOWN.
SO MUCH PERSPECTIVE ON, UH, THAT, THAT PART OF THE BUSINESS.
WE REALLY APPRECIATED HIS INSIGHT AND JUST HE REALLY WOULD CUT TO THE CHASE AND TELL US WHAT HE'S THOUGHT AND THAT'S IMPORTANT HERE.
UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL MS. STEWART AND THEN ALSO PATRICE PIKE, UM, LONGTIME WORKING MUSICIAN, REALLY.
SHE HAS SEEN ALL ASPECTS OF THIS BUSINESS, UH, LOVELY HUMAN BEING AND WE'LL MISS HER PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
SO, UH, I HOPE THAT STEWART AND PATRICE ARE DOING SOMETHING OTHER THAN WATCHING THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW, BUT
BUT, UH, WE LOVE YOU AND WE WILL MISS BOTH OF YOU.
PATERSON, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? TOAD? ME, ME? YEAH, I THOUGHT, OH, NO, NO.
WAS ABLE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, SO I WON'T TAKE UP ANY MORE TIME.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I HAD WARNED YOU IT WAS GONNA BE LONG.
[3. Live Music Fund collections update by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department. ]
ITEM IS LIVE MUSIC, FUN COLLECTIONS, UPDATE BY KIM CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.HELLO, I'M KIM MCCA CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER WITH MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE HERE ON THE HOT FUNDS COLLECTION.
UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED, UM, JUST WANNA INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEWEST STAFF MEMBER, SHELBY MITCHELL.
SHELBY COMES TO US, UH, FROM SIX SQUARE AND AFRICAN HERITAGE, AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE DISTRICT AND ALSO FROM THE HAN AGENCY, UH, WHICH IS MARKETING FIRM.
UM, AND SHE'S A, SHE IS BRAND NEW.
I THINK YOU STARTED LAST WEEK, RIGHT? YES, I DID.
UM, SO I HAVE THE SPREADSHEET UP HERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, THE, THE NUMBER THAT YOU PROBABLY ALL WANT TO HONE IN ON IS AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THE VERY BOTTOM LINE SAYS L M N, THAT'S US LIVE MUSIC.
AND, UH, THERE'S A $4,043,166 PROJECTION.
AND WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, IS THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE HOPING TO HIT BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SEPTEMBER 30TH.
SO THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE AIMING AT.
AND THE NUMBER THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS, UM, DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S ON THE PAGE BECAUSE WE SHARE THIS WITH ANOTHER THING.
IT'S ON THE LINE FOR TOURISM AND PROMOTION FUND.
AND WE'RE A PIECE OF THAT LINE, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY BROKEN OUT FROM THAT, UM, ON HERE.
BUT THE NUMBER, UH, THAT HAS CURRENTLY BEEN COLLECTED IS 2,110,034, UM, AS THE, AS OF THE END OF MARCH.
AND NOW GRANTED THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE FUNDS FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING SPENT ON LIVE MUSIC FUND PROGRAM.
SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CLEAN SLATE, SO TO SPEAK.
SO THESE ARE THE COLLECTIONS FROM WHAT, UH, OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH THE END OF MARCH, AND THAT WOULD BE THE 2 MILLION NUMBER THAT I JUST GAVE YOU, 2,000,110, WHICH IS A PART, A PORTION OF THAT 5 MILLION NUMBER THAT'S LISTED ON THERE UNDER TOURISM PROMOTION FUND THAT WE'VE BROKEN OUT.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE OVER HALFWAY TO THE GOAL.
UM, AND, UH, WELL LET, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT, AND IF I CAN'T ANSWER THEM, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU WITH AN ANSWER VIA EMAIL.
WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, WHAT'S THE VENUE? PROJECT FUND? OH, I YOU DON'T, THE VENUE PROJECT FUND IS, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
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DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, UH, VENUE, PROJECT FUND, UNLESS THAT'S THE ICONIC HNIC, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT GOES IN THE NO.ANNE SAYING, NO, NOT MY TERRITORY.
SO THAT'S, AND WHO PRODUCES THIS? THIS REPORT COMES OUT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
YEAH, IT GETS FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THEN IT GOES TO THE FINANCE AND THEY GAVE IT TO ME.
WELL, WE'LL, AND MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING, UH, WE COULD GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
SURE, YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD JUST PLEASE SEND WHAT THE LINE ITEMS MEAN.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH, NO, OTHERWISE THAT'S GREAT NEWS ON COLLECTIONS QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MS. MCCARSON? WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I BELIEVE THE NEXT ITEM IS YOURS TOO.
WE'RE MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING PROGRESS UPDATE ON THE ONGOING LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION, BECKON.
ALL RIGHT, SO AS Y'ALL KNOW, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM HAS LAUNCHED, AND I WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT IN.
SO, TO DATE, AS OF MIDDAY THIS MORNING, WE HAD 1,172 APPLICATIONS STARTED IN THE SYSTEM.
1000 172, 194 HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HANDLING LOTS OF QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, VIA EMAILS, VIA PHONE CALLS.
UH, WE ALSO ARE HOLDING VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS EVERY MONDAY AND THURSDAY FROM TWO TO 4:00 PM GREG GONZALEZ AND I HAVE BEEN SHARING THAT ROLE.
AND WE'VE COLLECTED, LET'S SEE, WE'VE COUNTED UP ABOUT 117 INDIVIDUAL, UH, FOLKS WHO HAVE ASKED FOR HELP, UM, FOR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE ABOUT THE FUND WHO HAVE REACHED OUT AND WE'VE TALKED TO PERSONALLY, UM, TO HELP THEM ALONG WITH WHATEVER QUESTIONS THEY HAVE, WHETHER IT BE ABOUT THE ONLINE SYSTEM OR ABOUT THE GUIDELINES THEMSELVES OR ELIGIBILITY AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
SO, UH, AND I KNOW THAT WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ACAS HELPING AS A COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR, UM, HAS ANOTHER GROUP OF FOLKS THAT SHE'S BEEN HELPING AS WELL.
SO, UH, IN TERMS OF LIKE THE QUE THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE BEEN GETTING FOR THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM.
UM, AND SO I DO ACTUALLY KEEP, UH, UH, A RECORD OF GENERALLY WHAT THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT.
I MAY NOT HAVE THE SPECIFIC QUESTION BECAUSE IT GOES FAST, UH, ESP WHEN, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF, UH, EMAIL TRAFFIC AND ESPECIALLY DURING VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS.
BUT, UM, BUT I, I KEEP TRACK OF WHAT THE QUESTION IS, WHETHER IT'S A QUESTION ABOUT I COULDN'T UPLOAD THE SPREADSHEET, OR HOW DO I DO THAT? OR, YOU KNOW, UH, OR IF IT'S A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AM I ELIGIBLE, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE AROUND ELIGIBILITY AND SOME OF IT'S JUST KIND OF, OF AROUND THE MECHANICS OF THE APPLICATION.
YEAH, THERE'S ALL KINDS THERE.
THERE'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A HEALTHY MIX OF, UM, ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS, UM, IN TERMS OF, IF YOU WANNA KNOW IF THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS OVER ONE THING OVER ANOTHER, I DON'T HAVE THE, ANY PERCENTAGES WORKED OUT FOR YOU ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, IT WOULD JUST BE GOOD TO KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT MM-HMM.
SO THERE'S, THE PROCESS JUST HAS TO UNFOLD.
BUT I'M GLAD, THANK YOU FOR TRACKING ALL THAT SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE IT LATER.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE ABOUT 10, SO THERE'S ABOUT 1100 STARTED AND ABOUT A HUNDRED AND NINETY, NINETY FOUR NINETY FOUR.
UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO WHEN SOMEONE COMES WITH AN INDIVIDUAL QUESTION, WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE STUCK AND HELP 'EM OUT.
AND THAT'S HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, FAIR AMOUNT OF TIMES WHERE PEOPLE CALL AND THEY SAY, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, PROGRESS TO THE NEXT PAGE, OR I GET THIS ERROR MESSAGE,
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YOU KNOW? AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TEAM OF FOLKS WHO HELP US OUT.IT'S NOT JUST ME AND GREG, BUT ALSO, UH, TECH STAFF, UM, WHO, WHO ARE HELPING AS WELL AS A, YOU KNOW, ACA.
SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN, I MEAN, ARA IT'S BEEN, UM, A TEAM OF US TOGETHER.
AND WE ALSO, ONE OF THE REASONS I TRACK THE QUESTIONS IS TO SEE WHICH QUESTIONS COME UP SO THAT WE CAN EXCHANGE INFORMATION AND THAT WE KNOW THAT WE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THE SAME WAY FOR, FOR EVERYBODY.
SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT QUESTION THAT'S COMING UP? LET'S MAKE SURE THE WORD GETS OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION? UH, SO EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME INFORMATION.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH, YEAH, JUST, JUST A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, TO PUT THESE NUMBERS IN CONTEXT, UH, ARE WE AIMING TO DISTRIBUTE APPROXIMATELY 4 MILLION, UH, FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND THIS YEAR? WELL, THREE, 3 MILLION.
I THINK IT'S 3.5, RIGHT? THAT WAS THE, WAS THE PROGRAM AMOUNT FOR DISTRIBUTION, BUT THE, UM, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT WE WON'T, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD IMAGINE.
BUT THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA ACTUALLY APPLY OUT OF THE, YOU KNOW, IS IT GONNA BE A HUN 200, 300? FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN GRANTS, WHICH IS A LONG TIME, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, SEND IN THAT APPLICATION AT THE LAST MOMENT.
SO I'M EXPECTING THAT THAT LAST WEEKEND, BY THE WAY, APPLICATIONS ARE DUE MAY 16TH, SO THEY'RE STILL TWO MORE WEEKS BEFORE THEY'RE ALL DUE.
THAT'S TUESDAY, MAY 16TH AT 5:00 PM BUT, UM, WE SCHEDULED OUR LAST VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS ON THAT MONDAY BEFORE THAT TUESDAY, KNOWING THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
SO INTENTIONALLY, UH, DID THAT.
SO I, I WOULD EXPECT, YOU KNOW, THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE A GREAT MEASURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, BUT WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE END HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOING TO APPLY OR UNTIL WE GET CLOSER TO THE END.
BECAUSE THERE USUALLY IS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS RIGHT AT THAT LAST STRETCH WHO WILL PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION COMMISSION DOING THE, I WAS, UH, AND DOING THE BACK OF THE ENVELOPE MATH, THAT 3.5 MILLION WOULD BE E UH, SINCE THE GRANTS RANGE FROM 5,000 TO 10,000, THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN, UH, 350 MM-HMM.
AND IF WE HAVE 194 COMPLETED, WE STILL HAVE LOTS OF MONEY OUT THERE.
BUT WHAT YOU, BUT THE BETTER INDICATOR MAY BE THE 1172, WHICH INDICATES PEOPLE'S REAL INTENTIONS.
I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON THOSE APPLICATIONS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LET EVERYONE KNOW THIS IS NOT A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE THING.
THEY DON'T NEED TO RUSH THROUGH IT.
THEY SHOULD THINK THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, ASK US IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL FOLKS WHO HAVE ASKED US AND THEN COME BACK AGAIN WITH MORE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, SO YEAH, IT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING, UH, IS WHAT I CAN SEE.
I WAS JUST GONNA CHECK IN WITH YOU.
COMMISSIONER GOLD, LAUREN GOLD.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE MECHANISM IS, BUT IF WE END UP HAVING BASICALLY MORE IN, IN THE BANK THAN WE EXPECTED BECAUSE, UM, HOT FUNDS RECEIPTS ARE HIGH, AND THEN WE END UP HAVING MORE, UH, ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS, UH, THAT FIT THE CRITERIA THAT WE WANT TO FUND, THAT THE, THE LAW CENTER WANTS TO FUND.
UM, ARE WE ABLE, ARE, DO WE, IS THAT 3.5 MILLION A CAP OR ARE WE ABLE TO ACCESS, IF THE FUND IS LARGER THAN EXPECTED, ARE WE ABLE TO ACCESS MORE OF THAT FUND, UH, TO FUND MORE APPLICATIONS? OR IS THAT GONNA BE SQUIRRELED AWAY FOR THE NEXT, UH, ROUND OF APPLICATIONS? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THE WAY THE SCORING IS, IS GOING TO WORK ON, ON THAT IS THE, THE PEOPLE WITH THE HIGHEST SCORE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GO DOWN THE LINE RIGHT INTO FROM HIGHEST TO LOWEST SCORE UNTIL THE MONEY RUNS OUT.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND TELL ME IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION, BUT I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION WHERE WE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LINE AND THERE'S STILL MANY LEFT OVER.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHAT EXACTLY DECISION WOULD BE MADE IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR, BUT I WOULD BE HESITANT TO, TO SAY THAT THAT WOULD OCCUR IF WE'VE ALREADY GOT A THOUSAND APPLICATIONS IN THE QUEUE, UM, THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON.
SO MAYBE AN WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION AT A LATER TIME.
I, YEAH, I THINK, LET ME, LET ME SEE IF I CAN REWORD IT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE LIKE
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IF YOU HAD MORE APPLICATIONS THAT YOU COULD FUND, IF YOU, THAT WERE ELIGIBLE AND, AND FIT THE GUIDELINES, COULD YOU EXCEED THAT 3.5 MILLION IF THE MONEY IS THERE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WAS THREE, IS THAT A CAP? YEAH, I THINK THAT AT THE CAP IS 3.5 MILLION.THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PROGRAM CAP HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED AND APPROVED IS 3.5 MILLION.
AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T GET SPENT GETS ROLLED OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, SO ONCE THE MONEY THAT GETS SPENT GETS DEDUCTED, RIGHT, THE MONEY WE CURRENTLY BE SPENDING GETS DEDUCTED FROM, UH, THAT TOTAL AMOUNT, THEN ANYTHING LEFT OVER GETS ROLLED INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AMOUNT.
THE, THE AMOUNT THAT I JUST GAVE YOU, THE SPREADSHEET, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING, WHAT CURRENTLY BE SPENDING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WASN'T SPENT DOWN, THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD GO.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
I'M WONDERING IF AT THIS POINT, IF YOU HAVE ANY STATS ON THE APPLICATIONS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED IN TERMS OF ARE THEY ARTISTS, ARE THEY PROMOTERS, AND ARE THEY SUBMITTING FOR LIVE EVENTS OR RECORDING PROJECTS, ET CETERA? NO, I DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THAT.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUT I CAN GIVE THAT A TRY AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS TO YOU.
GRANTED, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE CONSTANTLY CHANGING, BUT WE CAN MAYBE GET YOU A WINDOW SNAPSHOT IN TIME, AND I COULD MAYBE, IF I CAN, AND I'LL, I'LL ASK A TECH, UH, UH, TEAM OF FOLKS IF WE CAN DO THAT AND I CAN SEND IT TO YOU.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
YEAH, BECAUSE, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF OUR INTERESTS HERE IN SEEING HOW THE FUNDS ARE BEING USED FOR EXPANDED USERS.
SO I WILL BE KEEN TO SEE THAT INFORMATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER
UH, WERE THERE ANY GOALS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO MEET WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY OF THE 1172, DOES THAT SEEM LIKE ON TRACK FOR WHAT THE ANTICIPATED APPLICATIONS WERE GONNA BE? OR, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF LIKE, DOES THERE NEED TO BE ANOTHER MARKETING PUSH, OR IS THAT EXCEEDING A GOAL? UH, YOU KNOW, GIVEN, ESPECIALLY THAT WE STILL HAVE TWO WEEKS TO GO ON COLLECTING APPLICATIONS, I WOULD SAY WE'RE DEFINITELY ON TRACK FOR GETTING ENOUGH APPLICATIONS DONE.
AND BY THE WAY, UM, BACK TO THE QUESTION, WITH THE BREAKDOWN, UM, AT THE END OF THE, THIS PERIOD, ONCE THE APPLICATION CLOSES AND, AND AWARDS GET MADE, THEN WE'LL HAVE A DASHBOARD LIKE WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.
YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH, WITH OUR GRANTS THOUGH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ALSO SEE AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
YOU CAN GET ON AND YOU CAN CLICK AND YOU CAN FIND OUT HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE AWARDED FROM DISTRICT ONE OR, YOU KNOW, JUST ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION THAT'LL BE REALLY VALUABLE.
BUT WE'LL ALSO BE PROVIDING YOU WITH A REPORT GIVEN ON THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN, UH, TRADING INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, UH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE SEE OR QUESTIONS THAT COME UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN REGULAR COMMUNICATION.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION MM-HMM.
I MEAN, I AM, BUT I'M REALLY NOT, LIKE, IT'S KIND OF DANGEROUS, BUT LIKE, I'M LOOKING, LIKE IF I'M, LOOK, IF I'M LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE'RE INCLUDING VENUES IN WITH THE NEXT MIX OF, OF A LIVE MUSIC FUND AND THE CAP IS STILL AT 3.54 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, RIGHT? THAT'S GONNA, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT THAT'S ENOUGH, THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ENOUGH TO GO AROUND.
I THINK FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, I, AND I, I MAY BE JUST SPEAKING VERY BLUNTLY ABOUT THAT OR SOMETHING, BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE.
BUT THEN ALSO, LIKE, AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GOOD AT MATH, BUT EVERY TIME THAT WE GET A BUDGET REPORT, LIKE THESE NUMBERS, THEY GET BIGGER.
LIKE
LIKE A WHILE BACK, LIKE LONG TIME AGO, LIKE THE MONEY WAS ALREADY IN THAT POT.
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WAS LIKE TWO YEARS AGO.AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M
AND I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I, I, I CAN'T, I STILL, AND I ASK, I, I FEEL LIKE I ASK IT EVERY TIME AND, AND MAYBE IT'S, MAYBE IT'S MY IGNORANCE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I STILL LIKE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO, TO, TO, TO PULL THAT OUT OR, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THAT LINE OUT OR SOMETHING.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THE NEXT ROUND OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, LIKE THE NUMBERS SHOULD BE DOUBLE LIKE WHAT IT IS NOW, SO THAT VENUES AND, AND MUSICIANS CAN BOTH ACCESS IT.
BUT THEN ALSO, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, IT, I'M NOT GOOD AT MATH, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE FEASIBLE TO DO THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS MIGHT LOOK LIKE OR SOMETHING, OR IF I'M COMPLETELY WRONG, I, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT EVERY TIME I GET A BUDGET UPDATE, THESE NUMBERS LOOK BIGGER THAN THEY WERE BEFORE.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS THAT LIKE THE, THE, LIKE IF, IF WE'RE ONLY PUTTING 3.54 MILLION IN EACH ROUND OF IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S GONNA SERVE THE COMMUNITY A WHOLE LOT.
ONCE THE VENUES START GETTING INVOLVED IN ALL THAT STUFF STARTS HAPPENING.
I DON'T, I MEAN, IS, IS THAT, AM I MAKING SENSE? YEAH, YEAH.
SO I THINK WHEN WE, AND SYNOVIA HAD MADE THIS REMARK TOO, WHEN WE ADD THE VENUES IN, WE'LL WANT TO HAVE A LARGER ALLOCATION.
SO THAT WILL BE THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH STARTS IN THE FALL, ACTUALLY IN THE FALL, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT ONE QUESTION WE'LL HAVE ONCE THINGS ROLL OUT AND PEOPLE START USING THE MONEY AND WE SEE HOW QUICKLY THINGS PROGRESS IS REALLY WHAT THE OVERALL TIMELINE IS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
LIKE WHEN THE NEXT ROUND DOES OPEN AND WHAT THE AMOUNTS WILL BE.
AND SO THAT'LL BE YOU SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS A GROUP WE, WE NEED TO WORK ON AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THAT.
CUZ I, I KNOW WE HAVE, LIKE, AS OF LAST SUMMER, THERE WAS LIKE $6 MILLION, AROUND $6 MILLION IN THE BANK FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
AND AS KIM IS SAYING, WE'VE COLLECT, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL, THE NUMBERS HAVE GOTTEN BIGGER, UH, EVERYBODY, WHICH IS GREAT.
SO YEAH, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, I THINK, AND, AND ALSO THIS TAGS INTO WHAT LAUREN WAS SAYING, LIKE I THINK THE NEXT ROUND WILL HOPEFULLY BE LARGER THAN 3.5 MILLION FOR THE NEXT FISCAL FISCAL YEAR WHEN WE HAVE THE INCLUSION.
I THINK LAUREN'S GOT A QUESTION.
YEAH, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY THE NUMBERS THAT SCOTT IS, IS BRINGING UP.
SO WHAT WE SEE ON THIS SHEET HERE IS THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU'RE PROJECTING THERE, THERE WILL BE, UH, $4.04 MILLION BROUGHT IN TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, RIGHT? FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR OF NEW MONEY YES.
OF NEW MONEY FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
AND I PAID ATTENTION TO WHAT THE PROJECTIONS WERE.
AND ASSUMING THIS IS HALF, THIS IS HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO NAILING THAT PROJECTION.
BUT IF, UH, AS, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR PAT PATTERSON SAYS IF THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $6 MILLION THAT'S SITTING AROUND, UH, WAITING TO BE SPENT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR THERE'LL BE A TOTAL OF $10 MILLION BUDGET OF WHICH 3.5 MILLION WILL BE SPENT? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL $6 MILLION OR WHERE THAT WOULD COME, WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM.
UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAD, I THINK IT WAS, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, MY SPREAD WAS LIKE FOUR OR 4.1 IS WHAT WE HAD.
UM, UH, BUT, AND IT WAS CAP, THE BUDGET FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND THIS YEAR WAS CAPPED AT 3.5, BUT THERE'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL SIX UNLESS MAYBE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER PROGRAMS OUTSIDE OF MUSIC.
UM, I'LL GO BACK AND CHECK MY NOTES ON THAT.
BUT I, AS I RECALL, YEAH, I THINK THAT WHEN, UM, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO HAD BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, HAD BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE COUNSEL JUST ASKING WHERE THINGS WERE AT.
IT WAS, OH, DAVID GRAY, THIS IS DAVID.
DAVID GRAY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
I ACTUALLY INVITED, UH, DIRECTOR SYNOVIA HORA INTO THE CONVERSATION.
SHE'S JOINING US VIRTUALLY, UM, BUT SHE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET, PREVIOUS COLLECTIONS, AS WELL AS PROJECTED COLLECTIONS.
SO SYNOVIA WILL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
AND HOPEFULLY Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU RECALL, AND I CAN HAVE KIM SEND THE PRESENTATION, BUT COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND IS CORRECT.
THERE WAS ALREADY COLLECTIONS IN THE BANK, BUT AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE RECOMMENDED MAINTAINING THE 3.5 BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WOULD NEED TO BRING VENUES IN NEXT YEAR.
SO ONCE WE START COLLECTING THE DATA AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS,
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YES, WE WILL BUDGET ACCORDINGLY, PROBABLY CLOSER TO WHAT IS ACTUAL COLLECTED.IF YOU RECALL, OUR METHODOLOGY IS GOING FROM ESTIMATED TO SPENDING ACTUALS, SO I HOPE THAT HELPS.
I MIGHT, UH, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR YOU SALVIA.
UM, I MIGHT, I HAVE A FEELING I'M GONNA STATE THIS WRONG,
OF COURSE, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE MONEY BECAUSE WE HAVE VENUES, SO WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DATA FROM THE LIVE MUSIC PRESERVATION FUND, COMPARE THOSE APPLICATIONS AND DETERMINE WHAT WE MAY NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET BY.
I I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, AND I'M ACTUALLY VERY THRILLED TO HEAR THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS OF COURSE, THE OPTICS OF IT AS IN HOW IT WOULD BE THIS YEAR AND THEN NEXT YEAR, SUDDENLY, UH, THE, THE PORTION FOR MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS GOES DOWN BECAUSE WE BROUGHT IN ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER RECIPIENT BASE.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO, GOOD TO HEAR THAT.
SORRY IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING HERE, BUT WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GET TO YOU AFTER COMMISSIONER GOLD.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN THERE BECAUSE WE KEEP SAYING VENUES SEPARATELY FROM MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS, AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WHEN WE WERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE, AND, UH, THE VENUES WERE BE BEING CONSIDERED TO APPLY FOR THESE FUNDS, THEY, THEIR IDEA IS TO DIRECTLY FUNNEL THOSE FUNDS INTO THE POCKETS OF THE MUSICIANS PLAYING THESE VENUES.
SO THAT IS NOT TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE MUSIC PERFORMING COMMUNITY THAT IS NOT TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM MUSICIANS AND GIVING IT TO VENUES.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE REMEMBER THAT WE ARE STILL UNDER THE, UM, CITY RATE OF PAY OF 200 PER HOUR PER MUSICIAN.
UH, I BELIEVE, CORRECT IF I'M WRONG, ANYBODY WHO'S, WHO'S, UM, USING THESE FUNDS FROM THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS GONNA BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE MUSICIANS THAT RATE.
UM, SO IN MY MIND, AS A FULL-TIME WORKING MUSICIAN WHO PLAYS OUT IN VENUES ALL THE TIME, UH, ADDING VENUES INTO THE MIX WILL ACTUALLY BE A WONDERFUL INFUSION INTO THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORKADAY BLUE COLLAR MUSICIANS WHO ARE OUT THERE WORKING ALL THE TIME, IF THE VENUES CAN HAVE, UH, UH, AN INFUSION OF FUNDS TO INCREASE WHAT WE'RE PAID AT OUR REGULAR, UH, PUBLIC PERFORMANCES.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW COMMISSIONERS AND, AND FOR ANYBODY LISTENING IN THAT BRINGING VIDEOS INTO THE MIX ISN'T TAKING AWAY, IT'S ONLY BROADENING THE SCOPE OF THE TYPES OF, UH, MUSICIANS WHO ARE GOING TO GET ACCESS TO THE FUNDS.
I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY, QUICKLY ALSO ADD TO THAT WAS THAT THE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS, UM, UM, THERE WERE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AROUND, UM, THE VENUES ALSO PROMOTING GENRE DIVERSITY, UH, AS PART OF, UH, RECEIVING THIS FUNDS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY KEEP ON THE RADAR, UH, WHEN THESE, UH, WHEN THIS COMES IN.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
YEAH, SO ANYBODY, UH, GO AHEAD.
THE VENUES ARE REQUIRED TO SPEND THE MONEY ON MUSICIANS.
UH, THERE WAS, UH, I I I'M NOT SURE IF ALL THE PARAMETERS AROUND THAT HAS BEEN SET, BUT MAJORITY, I DON'T, THEY HAVE EITHER MAJORITY OF THE, UH, THE FUNDS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT TOWARDS MUSICIANS WITH A SMALL FRACTION OF IT GOING TO MARKETING.
UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, I THINK THAT CAN STILL BE REVIEWED HERE BY THE COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDED AS WELL WHEN THAT COMES INTO PICTURE.
YES, COMMISSIONER, WE COME, SO AFTER WE FINISH THIS ROUND OF FUNDING, WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION TO DISCUSS GUIDELINES FOR NEXT YEAR'S LIVE MUSIC FUNDING, UH, CATEGORIES.
AND I JUST, I THINK I WANT TO, I WANT TO JUST GO ON THE RECORD WITH SAYING THAT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE AS FAR AS AMENDING, ADJUSTING, WHATEVER, WE, WHATEVER, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND SAY, THIS IS WORKING, THIS ISN'T WORKING PEOPLE, DID, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MORE PEOPLE DID THIS INSTEAD OF THIS, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE ADJUST THESE GUIDELINES SO THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN INSTEAD, KIND OF THING.
WE SHOULD PUT IT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, TO THAT POINT,
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BECAUSE THIS IS OUR, OUR INAUGURAL YEAR YEAH.USING THESE FUNDS AND DOING THIS PROGRAM FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE AGREE THAT ONCE WE CLOSE THE APPLICATION AND WE DO ALL THE SCORING AND WE DISTRIBUTE FUNDS, THE VERY NEXT STEP IS TO DO A LOOKBACK RIGHT.
AND SEE WHERE WERE WE SUCCESSFUL WITH THIS PROGRAM, AND ALSO WHERE DO WE DROP THE BALL, CORRECT.
AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE BUILD ON OUR SUCCESSES AND CORRECT THE MISTAKES SO THAT NEXT YEAR WHEN WE DO THIS, IT'S ROLLING OUT EVEN BIGGER AND EVEN BETTER.
AND WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMISSION.
CAN WE TURN ASIDE, I WONDER ALOUD BASED ON THE EARLIER PRESENTATION, UH, ABOUT THE BROKEN SPOKE, IF IN TERMS OF THESE VENUES, UH, PERHAPS AN IDEA IS THE DIFFERENT VENUES BEING ABLE TO ARCHIVE THEIR HISTORY AND PERHAPS, UH, LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BECOME A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
LIKE THE, THEIR BROKEN SPOKE IS SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE A ROBUST FAMILY AND A AUTHOR, YOU KNOW, HISTORIAN, IF YOU WILL, TO MEMORIALIZE THEIR HISTORY.
SO I WONDER, LIKE FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD, IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO, FOR OTHER LIVE MUSIC VENUES, UM, TO INVESTIGATE HIRING A ARCHIVIST OR A HISTORIAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I BLEVINS ACTUALLY, I WANTED TO, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT SINCE THE BROKEN SPOKE DESIGNATION THAT AUSTIN'S THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL AND WE KEEP TEARING DOWN THESE VENUES AND PUTTING UP HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY VENUES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S LIVE MUSIC TO PLAY IN ANYMORE.
AND I WAS JUST RUNNING THROUGH SO MANY VENUES OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS THAT ARE GONE, THAT I USED TO GO TO.
AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT POINT, IS THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF PATHWAY TO, TO FOR MORE HISTORICAL DESIGNATIONS OF THESE VENUES BEFORE THEY'RE GONE.
I JUST WANTED TO, I I THINK THAT'S GREAT AND I'M GLAD THAT, UM, YOU BOTH BROUGHT THAT UP.
UH, COMMISSIONER ZA AND BLEVINS, UH, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A, A SEPARATE GRANT, UH, THAT, THAT RELATES TO THE, THE HISTORIC VENUE PRESERVATION GRANT.
AM I WORDING THAT CORRECTLY? MM-HMM.
SO, YES, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION FUND HAS AN HERITAGE GRANT COMPONENT THAT ALLOWS FOR PLANNING AND HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE.
AND I'LL LET DAVID GRAY CHIME IN.
JUST, JUST TO BUILD OFF OF DIRECTOR HORAS COMMENT, ACTUALLY, THE BROKEN SPOKE WAS A RECIPIENT OF ONE OF OUR HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANTS THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.
AND THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SELECTED AND RECEIVED THAT FUNDING FROM OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND JUST SO THE OTHER COMMENTS, WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE PRESERVATION OF OUR LIVE MUSIC VENUES AND OUR CREATIVE SPACES THROUGH A NUMBER OF STRATEGIES.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON A NUMBER OF CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD SEEK TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE OUR, UH, MUSIC VENUES AS WELL AS OTHER CREATIVE SPACES.
UH, OF COURSE, A E D C IS A CLOSE PARTNER WITH OUR DEPARTMENT AND AS A REPRESENTATIVE HERE.
UH, THEY'RE DOING AMAZING WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AROUND PROTECTING HISTORIC SPACES, SOME OF WHICH ARE LIVE MUSIC VENUES.
SO I JUST WANNA ASSURE YOU THAT IT REALLY IS AN ALL HANDS ON DECK.
A LOT OF OUR STAFF ARE MUSICIANS WHO PERFORM AT THESE MUSIC VENUES OR USED TO AT THE VENUES THAT NO LONGER EXIST.
AND SO FOR US, IT'S NOT JUST A PROFESSIONAL OBLIGATION, BUT IT'S ALSO PERSONAL FOR A LOT OF US.
AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS CHALLENGE THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES, SOME OF WHICH ARE HELD AND OWNED BY OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND FORTUNATELY, SOME OF THOSE ARE ALSO HELD AND OWNED BY DEPARTMENTS, UH, SIBLING DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, INFRASTRUCTURE.
WELL, THESE ARE INAUGURAL PROGRAMS, SO AT LEAST, AND I AM NEW TO THIS, BUT THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND FOR ALL THE CHANCES AND MISTAKES THAT ARE GONNA HAPPEN, WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS DOING.
UM, COMMISSIONER GOLD, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS LEGIT, BUT, UH, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC, I WONDERED IF WE COULD SHOEHORN IN A QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK IT CAN RELATE TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND, AND OUR FUTURE PLANNING FOR IT.
UH, GOING BACK TO TOMORROW, WILLIAMS COMMENTS IN THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
I KNOW WE CAN'T NECESSARILY DIRECTLY ADDRESS THAT, BUT, UH, AND IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY ON THE AGENDA, BUT, UH, I, I WONDER IF, SINCE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS FROM ED D HERE, IF THEY CAN SPEAK TO THE REASONING BEHIND, UH, IF, UH, OR MAYBE WE CAN GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THAT CENSUS RESULTS.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE ACTUALLY ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM ON THAT.
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UH, SO WE COULD COVER THAT THERE.OH, SO WE CAN, UH, TABLE THAT FOR THAT, UH, AGENDA ITEM.
I MUST BE LOOKING AT AN OLD ONE.
UM, YEAH, DAVID, I'M JUST GONNA COME BACK AND ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS FOR US AND, AND JUST A LITTLE BIT.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? THANK YOU, DAVID.
[5. Discussion and possible action following AEDC Cultural Trust update by Anne Gatling Haynes, Chief Transaction Officer, Austin Economic Development Corporation, on the Cultural Trust. ]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING ADC CULTURAL TRUST UPDATE BY ANN GATLING HAYES, CHIEF TRANSACTION OFFICER ADC.GOOD EVENING AGAIN, AND I WILL TRY TO NOT SPEAK AS FAST AS LAST TIME.
UM, TONIGHT ACTUALLY IT WOULD BE A LIGHT UPDATE TO THE CULTURAL TRUST, BUT IT IS RELATED TO THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD BEFORE.
UM, AND SO I'M GONNA GIVE, I ALSO REALIZE SINCE THERE ARE SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS, I'LL GIVE A REALLY BRIEF UPDATE ON WHAT THE CULTURAL TRUST IS.
UM, AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION THAT WAS SET UP BY THE CITY TO WORK SPECIFICALLY ON EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT AS REAL ESTATE MEETS GOVERNMENT.
SO HALFWAY IN BETWEEN, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS.
IN FACT, FOUR MEMBERS INCLUDING, UH, DIRECTORS SYNOVIA HALT.
ROB IS ON MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
UM, AND WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THEN ALSO WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE 11TH STREET PROJECT.
WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND WITH, UM, SOME WORK WE'RE DOING ON AN EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT ACTION PLAN FOR I 35 S EXPANSION PROJECT, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CORRIDOR OFFICE.
SO WE REALLY WORK CROSS-DEPARTMENTALLY.
UM, AND CERTAINLY ESPECIALLY WITH THE CULTURAL TRUST, WE'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WELL WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT AND MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS, AS WE GO.
UM, VERY BRIEFLY,
AND ACROSS A NUMBER OF YEARS, THREE BUCKETS OF MONEY WERE ASSIGNED TO THE CULTURAL TRUST PROGRAM.
AND WHEN A E D C WAS CREATED, WE WERE IDENTIFIED AS THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THIS PROGRAM.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, UH, YEAR AND A HALF.
AND I THINK I WAS LAST YEAR IN JANUARY, UM, AND THEN I THINK NOVEMBER BEFORE THAT, IN JULY BEFORE THAT.
AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GIVE, KEEP YOU GUYS UP TO DATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
BUT THESE ARE CAPITAL INVESTMENT DOLLARS, REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT DOLLARS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT IS WE'RE ALSO DOING SOMETHING NEW.
SO IT HAS TAKEN A LOT LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS IN THIS PROGRAM, BUT WORKING VERY HARD BEHIND THE SCENES TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THESE VERY SPECIFIC DOLLARS.
AND I'LL DESCRIBE THOSE IN A SECOND TO THESE VERY SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS PROCESS LAST YEAR.
AND I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL.
I KEEP MEANING TO PUT A LITTLE VIDEO ON OUR WEBSITE SO PEOPLE CAN DIVE INTO THE HISTORY.
UM, BUT THE 19.4 MILLION THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, UM, IT'S BASICALLY 12 MILLION FROM THE 2018 CREATIVE SPACES BOND.
THOSE ARE BOND DOLLARS AND VERY PARTICULAR BOND DOLLARS BASED ON A VOTER ELECTION.
UH, SO THEY HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS TO THEM.
UH, 2.4 MILLION ARE HOT DOLLARS THAT WERE A ONE-TIME SET ASIDE FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DOLLARS.
AND THAT WAS PUT INTO SOMETHING CALLED THE ICONIC VENUE FUND.
SO THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
DIFFERENT FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION, PRESERVATION GRANT FUND, UH, THIS IS THE ICONIC VENUE FUND.
AND THEN ANOTHER 5 MILLION, WHICH ARE TWO TRANCHES OF 2.5 MILLION THAT HAVE COME IN THE LAST TWO FISCAL YEARS IN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET FOR THE ICONIC VENUE FUND.
UM, I'VE GOT LOTS OF DOCUMENTATION ON WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE DOLLARS, BUT IN PARTICULAR, EACH ONE OF THEM HAS VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND WE'RE TRYING TO BOTH PRESERVE EXISTING SPACES THAT HAVE BEEN OPERATING FOR A LONG TIME IN A CURRENT, PARTICULAR WAY, AS WELL AS BUILD OUT SOME NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WE KIND OF, THE PROGRAM I THINK WHEN WE GET THERE IS GONNA BE AWESOME CUZ WE'RE DEMONSTRATING MULTIPLE WAYS TO HELP CREATIVE SPACES.
BUT WE ARE STILL THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIT THE DOLLARS TO THE PROJECTS AND NEGOTIATE BETWEEN, UM, DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS, CITY LEGAL, UM, CERTAINLY, UH, WITH PROP VENUE OPERATORS AS WELL AS PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF MULTI-WAY NEGOTIATION THAT IS GOING ON CURRENTLY.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO BRING YOU THAT BACKGROUND CUZ IT JUST IS SOMETHING THAT IS TAKEN A LOT LONGER.
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HOPE FOR SOME, UM, ANNOUNCEMENTS NEAR TERM.IN DECEMBER, WE ANNOUNCED TWO OF THE PROJECTS THAT CITY COUNCIL VOTED IN, UH, WHICH WAS 2 MILLION TOWARDS A NEW CREATIVE, UH, SPACE CREATIVE INCUBATOR SPACE AT THE PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER, WHICH IS A CITY OWNED BUILDING AND 400,000 FOR THE MILLENNIUM TO HELP UPGRADE THEIR THEATER TO BE MORE USEFUL FOR A VARIETY OF PERFORMING ARTS.
THOSE WERE CITY OWNED BUILDINGS, AND SO THEY WERE THE LEAST REAL ESTATE OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON.
AND SO, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF HELP DEFINE HOW TO GET THOSE DOLLARS INTO THOSE PROJECTS.
I CANNOT GIVE YOU A DATE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DO HOPE TO HAVE SOME FURTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THE DESIGN PROCESS OF THE FIT OUT OF THAT PD SPACE, WHICH WE WILL BE INVITING THE ECOSYSTEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT DESIGN PROCESS.
UM, I'M HOPEFUL THAT IT'S WITHIN A MONTH, BUT I CAN'T GIVE YOU YOU THAT DATE TODAY.
SO THAT WILL BE KICKING OFF AND THAT WILL BE, UM, AN EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT FOR NEW SPACE.
UM, IN THE MEANTIME, I MEAN, NOT BEEN REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THE DETAIL OF A LOT OF PROJECTS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN.
WE'RE WORKING ACROSS WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED, AND I BELIEVE I MENTIONED THIS IN NOVEMBER, IF NOT BEFORE.
UH, WE'RE REALLY WORKING ACROSS 14 PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED OUT OF THE 45 SUBMITTED PROJECTS.
AND EACH ONE IS VERY UNIQUE, UH, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY MADE IT A LITTLE BIT HARDER FOR US.
BUT ALSO WITH THE, UM, UNIQUENESS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, WE'RE REALLY HOPING TO DO THE BEST POSSIBLE JOB TO INVEST IN THEM AS WE CAN.
UM, I WILL JUST SAY THAT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK THIS IS WHERE MAYBE IT'S AN UPDATE FOR YOU ALL.
WE'VE ALSO ASKED, UM, LAST YEAR WE WERE REALLY, UH, FORTUNATE TO HAVE A GROUP OF, UH, LBJ STUDENTS FROM UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, WHILE WE ARE IN THE WEEDS, TRYING TO DO THE SORT OF SHORT TERM, GET THE DOLLARS DEPLOYED INTO OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, BOTH EXISTING AND NEW.
WE ALSO HAD THEM START TO TAKE A, A REALLY GOOD LOOK AT SORT OF THE FUTURE OF THE CULTURAL TRUST ACROSS TWO ITEMS. ONE IS HOW TO BEST LEVERAGE THE CITY DOLLARS AND ULTIMATELY HOW TO HELP SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AS WELL AS TO START TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE EVEN EVALUATE THE PROJ, THE PROGRAM.
YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DEFINE SUCCESS AND WHAT, WHAT COULD WE BE DOING IN THE SHORT, MEDIUM, AND LONG TERM TO HELP BENEFIT THE ECOSYSTEM? THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS STUDY, IT WAS A YEAR LONG STUDY AND FOUR STUDENTS DID AN EXCELLENT JOB BENCHMARKING WITH OTHER SIMILAR PROGRAMS IN CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THEN ACTUALLY ACROSS THE WORLD.
UH, DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE DIFFERENT CITIES, UM, NASHVILLE, SAN FRANCISCO, UH, SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA, BOSTON, UM, I'M GONNA FORGET SOMEBODY
I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS THAT THERE IS NO ONE SOLUTION AND THAT WE'RE ALL GONNA REALLY TRY EVERYTHING.
WE CAN BOTH PRESERVE SPACE, NOT LOSE ANY MORE SPACE, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AND LOSING SPACES AND REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE, ON REALLY SEEING HOW TO BETTER BUILD OUT NEW SPACE AS WE GO, SPECIFICALLY WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING.
AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE THIS TIES INTO SOME OF YOUR WORK, UM, HERE.
SO I WILL SAY THAT THE, UM, I'M A LITTLE BIT LATE.
I WAS, THEY PRESENTED THEIR FINAL PROJECT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AND I GOT THEIR FINAL REPORT LAST WEEK, BUT I'M GONNA BE PUTTING IT ON OUR WEBSITE.
YOU CAN WATCH THEIR PRESENTATION.
UH, THANKFULLY, UM, FORMER CHAIR OR CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, UM, PATTERSON WAS THERE AT THE PRESENTATION AND IT WAS REALLY PHENOMENAL.
UH, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SO MUCH, THEY WERE ABLE TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND PROVIDE ACTUALLY A VERY IMPLEMENTABLE SHORT, MEDIUM TERM AND LONG-TERM VISION.
UM, THEY DID NOT HAVE A SECRET OF WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM, BUT THEY DEFINITELY HAD A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.
AND ONE OF, I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION THE FOUR, UM, PRIMARY STRATEGIES AND EACH ONE HAS THREE SUB-BULLETS TO IT, BUT ADOPTING A FUTURE-ORIENTED VISION FOR THE CULTURAL TRUST, FOSTERING VIABLE AND SELF-SUSTAINING CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS, FACILITATING COLLABORATION AMONG THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY, AND THEN, UM, PROMOTE THE STORY AND VALUE OF AUSTIN CREATIVES.
THIS WOULD NOT BE IN A VACUUM BY US, BY OURSELVES, BUT WORKING WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS.
BUT THE FIRST TWO, UM, IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTED TO US ACROSS SOME OF THE OTHER BENCHMARKED ORGANIZATIONS, BUT ALSO OUR EXPERIENCE IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF IS THE VALUE OF TWO THINGS.
ONE, COORDINATION AND CO CONNECTION WITH DEVELOPERS ON THE FRONT END AS THEY'RE BUILDING OUT NEW SPACE THAT IS MISSION CRITICAL IN A CITY LIKE AUSTIN.
AND THE OTHER WAS ACTUALLY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL, UH, TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND RESOURCES FOR ORGANIZATIONS.
WE HAVE FOUND, AND I THINK THE ED D DEPARTMENT HAVING WORKED ACROSS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GRANTS HAS ALSO FOUND THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT A ABILITY TO HELP ADVISE ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF LEASES.
THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN BE ASKING FOR IN THEIR LEASES, HOW TO PROTECT THE ORGANIZATION OVER THE LONG TERM IN
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WHATEVER SPACE THEY'RE IN.THAT'S HIGHLY VALUABLE TIME THAT WE WOULD SEE THAT SOME VERSION OF WHAT KIND OF THAT ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WE COULD PROVIDE OR IDENTIFY HOW VALUABLE SORT OF A SMALL DOLLAR EFFORT COULD BE VERY VALUABLE FOR A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I HOPE YOU CAN GO TO THE, THE REPORT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PRETTY FANTASTIC AND WE WILL, AT MY BOARD LEVEL, TAKING THAT AND WITH OUR PARTNERS BUILDING ON SORT OF WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS ON THIS PROCESS.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT FOCUSED ON GETTING SOME INITIAL, SOME OF THESE INITIAL PROJECTS, UM, INTO IMPLEMENTATION MODE.
SO THAT IS MY UPDATE AND THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT LESS QUICK, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, YEAH, SO I REALLY ENJOYED THE PRESENTATION, UH, BY THE LBG SCHOOL.
IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO HAVE THAT HIGHER ED PUBLIC POLICY PERSPECTIVE.
AND TWO THINGS THAT I WAS STRUCK BY IS THAT A A D C, A LOT OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING IS GONNA FALL, IS ALREADY ALIGNING WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND IT'S JUST A, LIKE A LONGER, A LONGER PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT YOU CAN BE DOING.
BUT, UM, DEFINITELY ADC IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BASED ON WHAT THOSE, UH, PUBLIC POLICY STUDENTS HAD TO SAY.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THAT THEY MENTIONED IS, UM, ACTUAL, UM, EVENTS MEETING MEETUPS BETWEEN DEVELOPERS AND CREATIVES.
AND WE'VE HERE ON THE DIAS TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, CITY MEETUPS, COMMISSION COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ARTISTS AND MEMBERS OF THE MUSIC COMMUNITY HAVE SOME SORT OF MEETUPS.
WE'VE TALKED, UM, ON THE URBAN CORE LAND USE WORKING GROUP, WHICH HAS DEVELOPER MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE VERY OPEN TO THAT IDEA AS WELL.
THEY FEEL LIKE IT'LL REALLY HELP, AS YOU SAID, GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE AT THE BEGINNING OF PROJECTS AND TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS, UM, IN A, IN A WAY THAT'S REALLY COLLABORATIVE AND NOT, UM, ANTAGONISTIC, WHICH IS SOMETIMES WHERE WHEN THINGS GET PROJECTS GET TOO FAR ALONG, LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE OVER ON FOURTH STREET WE'VE KIND OF SEEN HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN WHERE THERE WASN'T, THERE WASN'T COLLABORATION EARLY ON AND IT MM-HMM.
SO WE AS A COMMISSION, LIKE SUPPORT THIS IDEA.
AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE, WHAT'S THE FEASIBILITY OF, OF HAVING THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS.
I MEAN, THERE'S SORT OF THE LOW FIVE VERSION, WHICH IS AS MUCH AS WE CAN PUT BOTH CREATIVES AND DEVELOPERS TOGETHER, AGAIN, WE PARTICIPATE IN THE ULI WORKING GROUP, AND I KNOW AS THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS HAVE HAPPENED, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HELP AGAIN, CONVENE, FACILITATE, MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE IN THE ROOM TOGETHER.
WE, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE LBJ SCHOOL, BUT UM, WAS ABLE TO DIVE PRETTY DEEP INTO A PROGRAM THAT SYDNEY AUSTRALIA RAN THEIR FIRST COHORT AND THEY'RE ABOUT TO RUN A SECOND COHORT.
UM, WHICH REALLY IS AGAIN ABOUT BRINGING, BUILDING A COMMON LANGUAGE BETWEEN DEVELOPERS AND CREATIVES.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY THEY ALSO DID A SERIES OF TEMPLATES ABOUT HOW TO ACHIEVE CREATIVE SPACE THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR CREATIVES, UH, WITHIN DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, WHICH ACTUALLY IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
AND IT GIVES SOME GOOD, GOOD BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT SPACE NEEDS FOR CREATIVES.
I THINK WE COULD DO SOMETHING FAIRLY TAILORED HERE, SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING TO THIS, THIS CREATIVE COMMUNITY.
UM, WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IN THE, THE WONDERFULNESS OF HAVING AT LEAST 19.4 MILLION TO SPEND ON CAPITAL INVESTMENTS.
WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IN THAT POT OF MONEY ARE THE KINDS OF DOLLARS IT WOULD TAKE TO RUN A PROGRAM LIKE THAT OR TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
SO AS A PART OF OUR REQUESTED COUNCIL, UM, THIS YEAR FROM ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL PROGRAM DOLLARS.
UM, ANOTHER UPDATE, WHICH I FORGOT TO MENTION IS WE JUST DID RECEIVE OUR FIVE ONE
SO CONVERSATIONS, I THINK BACK LAST COUPLE OF MUSIC COMMISSIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THESE INVESTMENTS WITH ADDITIONAL, UM, PHILANTHROPIC, UH, DOLLARS IS KEY.
WE NOW CAN DO THAT
UM, BUT WE NEED TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND WE CERTAINLY NEED TO HAVE SOME PROJECTS MOVING SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THE OUTPUT AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, BUT YEAH, NO, I THINK IT WOULD BE MISSION CRITICAL TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE WORKING GROUPS TO THAT NEXT LEVEL OF BEING ABLE TO TRULY PARTNER, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WHO, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE WANT TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
AND I THINK THEY JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE, HOW, HOW THAT COULD WORK.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORK AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A WORKING GROUP THAT'S REALLY TASKED WITH THIS AND CERTAINLY AT ANY POINT, UM, IF I CAN JOIN A BRAINSTORMING SESSION, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO DO THAT.
YEAH, I'LL SEND YOU AN INVITATION.
I'LL SEND YOU THE DETAILS AND YEAH, IF WE CAN JUST THINK OF SOME WAYS TO DO YEAH.
MIXERS THAT THE ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSIONS WE'RE PART
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OF AND HELP PROMOTE, I I THINK IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT IN THAT.YEAH, AND I THINK THE MORE WE CAN GET IN ON THE EARLY STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UM, AND NOW MAYBE WITH FINANCING, IF DEVELOPERS ARE TAKING A PAUSE, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO ALSO GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION.
WHAT WAS THE PROGRAM THAT YOU SAID WAS ONLINE AT THE VERY, AT THE END OF YOUR, YOUR PRO PROGRAM ONLINE? YOU SAID IT WAS SOMETHING RIGHT AROUND THE, UM, TALKING ABOUT SYDNEY.
OH, AND THERE WAS A PROGRAM THAT WAS YEAH, SO THEY DID, UM, WHAT THEY, I, I'M NOW JUST COMPLETELY BLANKING ON WHAT THEY CALLED IT, BUT THEY DID SORT OF A MULTI-MONTH EFFORT TO KIND OF HAVE A COHORT OF DEVELOPERS AND CREATIVES, PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE INDUSTRY OF ALL KINDS AND REALLY SORT OF BOTH, THERE WAS A BIT OF A CURRICULUM, BUT IT WAS REALLY ABOUT PARTNERING.
UM, AND THEY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS BOTH LEARNING ABOUT EACH OTHER'S INDUSTRIES.
UH, THEY HAD THEIR FIRST ROUND, UM, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR AND THEN SINCE THEN HAVE LAUNCHED I THINK THE SECOND COHORT.
AND IT'S RUN BY A CONSULTING COMPANY IN SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA.
BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD MODEL.
AND I THINK WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE'S A GREAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, UH, MODEL THAT, UH, SEATTLE HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR CREATIVE ORGANIZATIONS IN THEIR PROGRAM, VERY SIMILAR TO THE CULTURAL TRUST, UM, THAT IS NOT HIGH DOLLARS, BUT IS BASICALLY HAVE ALMOST A REAL ESTATE CLASS FOR CREATIVE ORGANIZATIONS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF GETTING READY TO EITHER PURCHASE OR, UM, INVEST, GET INVESTMENTS INTO A BUILDING.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD BE GOOD.
I THINK THAT THE THING THAT'S ONLINE, PROBABLY WHAT, SORRY, GETTING THERE, UM, WAS THAT THERE WAS A, A DOCUMENT PREPARED.
UM, I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS BASICALLY A PATTERN BOOK, HOW TO ACTUALLY FIT CREATIVE SPACES.
THE AUDIENCE WAS INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPERS IN SYDNEY AND IT WAS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED, UH, A DANCE STUDIOS, WHAT ARE THE KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS IN GENERAL DO THOSE SPACES NEED, IF YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT DOING, UH, RECORDING ROOMS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF MUSIC, WHAT ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO TO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SOUND ISOLATE BETWEEN OTHER SPACES? SO IT WAS REALLY KIND OF A PATTERN BOOK, BUT, UM, IT'S ONLINE.
IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE AT THE CITY OF SYDNEY.
I WOULD SAY IT'S VERY THICK AND VERY DEEP AND IT MAY BE A GOOD WAY TO SORT OF SAY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY? AND IF SO, WHAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WE WOULD TAILOR HERE? UM, CAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS, DOESN'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHAT IT TAKES TO BUILD ONE, BUT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT A THEATER LOOKS LIKE.
NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WORKING SPACES FOR ARTISTS LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S THE KIND OF CONVERSATION TO BE IN THE ROOM WITH DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WOULD BE INCREDIBLY VALUABLE.
SO YOU'LL SHARE THAT WHEN YOU I CAN SHARE THAT LINK.
UM, I, I HAD HEARD, UH, THROUGH COMMUNICATION WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT OVER AT THE MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURE CENTER, THEY WANT TO MAKE THAT A MUSIC HUB MM-HMM.
AND, UH, IS, IS THAT ONE OF THE CREATIVE SPACES THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE, UM, THEY, THEY DID APPLY TO THE CULTURAL TRUST PROGRAM? UH, IT IS BASED, IT'S ACTUALLY PUTTING, BEING PUT INTO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY RUNS THAT CULTURAL CENTER MM-HMM.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UH, THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE MAC PROGRAM AND DEVELOPMENT, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS THEY DO.
UM, BUT IT IS PART OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT INTENTION, I KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT TYPE OF USE WITHIN THE MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL OKAY.
UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW THE STATUS ON THE BUDGET AND WHERE IT IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, ALTHOUGH IT IS CLOSED FOR CONSTRUCTION OR HAS STARTED CONSTRUCTION HASN'T.
I CAN TRY AND FOLLOW UP AND, AND FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
COMMISSION VELA, THAT'S, UM, UM, AS YOU KNOW, IQ AUSTIN IS ALSO ENGAGED IN THOSE MUSIC HUB CONVERSATIONS, SO, UM, WE COULD ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME OR WHENEVER, UH, SURE.
THE GROUP'S READY, UH, TO COME AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO MM-HMM.
ANY, ANY, UH, CITY FACILITY HAS TO BE OPEN FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, IF THERE IS A, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING OF COURSE, IS THAT IF THERE IS A, AN ENGAGEMENT WITH A NON-PROFIT AS WELL, THEY ARE ABLE TO THEN, UH, CATER CERTAIN PROGRAMS TO SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES AND THEIR NEEDS.
UH, AS SUCH, THE MAC, ASIAN AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER, CARVER, ALL, ALL THESE CITY FACILITIES, UH, THEY ARE OPEN TO EVERYONE.
SOME REHEARSALS ARE HAPPENING AT THE ARC.
UM, SORRY, DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? NO.
ANY OTHER, UH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
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HEY, HOW YOU DOING? GOOD.UM, THE, UH, OKAY, SO FIRST OFF, SO ADCS A 5 0 1
WE WERE SET UP, AND AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE CITY, UH, SEATS ON OUR BOARD, WE'LL ALWAYS BE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION.
BUT THE 5 0 1
BUT THAT, THAT ALLOWS US JUST TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DONATIONS AND OTHER KINDS OF THINGS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME MENTION ON THE, ON, ON THE, ON, ON THE DIAS HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VENUES ARE KIND OF LIKE GOING AWAY AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S HAPPENING AND WHATNOT DURING THE ARTS COMMISSION MEETING, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARTISTS ARE LIKE, IT'S KIND OF, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE, RIGHT.
MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, ARTISTS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN WHILE HOPEFULLY TRYING TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE OLD THINGS.
LONG PLAY, LONG PLAY, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE, JUST, JUST CLOSES A VENUE, HISTORIC VENUE.
LIKE, WE'RE NOT HISTORIC, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST CLOSED UP.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF TRAGIC.
WELL, IS THAT RIGHT? THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE NOT CLOSING.
THEY'RE BECOMING THE CORAL SNAKE.
THEY'RE STILL LOUD MUSIC MENU.
THAT'S, THAT'S, SORRY, INTERRUPT.
JUST WANTED TO NO, NO, THANK YOU.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS.
UM, SO THE, UH, OKAY, SO, SO LOOKING AT, UH, DURING OUR, OUR JOINT ARTS AND, UM, MUSIC MEETING, THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT BLOCK 16 AND 18, YES.
AND, UM, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
WE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK AND SOME GOOD UPDATES FROM THAT MEETING.
HOWEVER, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, LIKE, HAVE, HAVE, LIKE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY MORE CONVERSATION? I, I, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE AT, UM, YOU KNOW, KENNY DURHAM'S, UM, MAYBE POSSIBLY TALKING TO HAROLD IF HE, IF HE WAS THERE.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT LIKE, UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, I DO, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST ME.
I SEE, YOU KNOW, KENNY DURHAMS AS, AS, AS A HUB MM-HMM.
AND SO HAROLD HAS A PLAN MM-HMM.
AND, UM, HE HAS TURNED THAT OVER TO YOU ALL.
AND I, I THINK THAT JUST ASKING POINT BLANK, HOW MUCH OF THAT VISION, H H HOW MUCH OF THAT FISH HAS BEEN REALIZED, OR IS IT, OR IS GOING TO BE REALIZED? HAVE THERE BEEN TALKS ABOUT THAT HAVE, UM, UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPERS LOOKING LIKE IN TERMS OF THOSE TALKS? UM, CAN YOU TOUCH ON ANY OF THOSE THINGS? YEAH, I KNOW IT'S PRETTY EARLY STILL, BECAUSE GO AHEAD.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER WHAT I CAN.
I'M JUST, JUST GONNA BE CAREFUL BECAUSE I DID THE 11TH STREET UPDATE AND THERE IS A VENN DIAGRAM OF OVERLAP HERE.
BUT I WANNA BE ABLE TO SORT OF SPEAK TO THE AGENDA ITEMS. SURE.
UM, I THINK I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE, AND IN CONVERSATIONS UP TILL NOW, IT IS INTENDED THAT THE RFP WILL REQUIRE CULTURAL VENUE ON, IT'S NOT GONNA REQUIRE IT ON BLOCK 16 OR 18, BUT REQUIRE IT AS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROPOSALS THAT WOULD COME IN FROM THE DEVELOPER.
IT HAS BEEN IMPORTANT FROM DAY ONE THAT CULTURAL, CULTURAL USES, CULTURAL ACTIVITIES STAYS IN THAT CULTURAL DISTRICT.
SO THAT IS ONE, ONE POINT, UM, KENNY DURHAM CENTER APPLIED FOR THE CULTURAL TRUST, THE LIST OF 45 APPLICANTS ARE PUBLIC, AND WE CONTINUE BECAUSE ALSO OF THE RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, ACTIVITIES THAT WERE IN THE RESOLUTION THAT MIRROR CLOSELY TO, UH, KENNY DURHAM CENTER VISION MM-HMM.
WE HAVE 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF CULTURAL SPACE THAT WE THINK CAN FIT INTO THE PROJECT.
WE ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, AND IT WILL REALLY HAPPEN THROUGH THE SELECTION OF DEVELOPER, HOW THAT WILL BE, UM, NOT JUST INCLUDED, BUT HOW, HOW IT WILL BE FACILITATED AND PAID FOR.
SO A LOT OF IT IS GONNA BE IN A DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT IS DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
BUT, UM, NO ONE HAS LOST SIGHT OF HOW IMPORTANT THAT COURSE IS OF COURSE, AND CERTAINLY HOW IMPORTANT THAT VISION WAS TO COUNCIL AS WELL.
AND I'M, I'M, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU ALL HAVE OR ANYTHING, I JUST NO, NO.
I WASN'T TAKING IT AS A CRITIQUE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY ANSWER TO WHAT I CAN.
NO, YEAH, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
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THE RFP THERE IS OUR, WE'RE ALSO ACTUALLY IN THE DESIGN ALSO INCLUDING OUTDOOR SPACE THAT COULD ALSO BE SOME EX EXTERNAL PERFORMANCE SPACE.I THINK WHAT KENNY DURHAM BACKYARD HAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY.
SO WE ALSO RECOGNIZE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PUTTING A BUILDING ON THAT BLOCK, BUT MAKING SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ARE, ARE WE OFF TOPIC ON AGENDA FOR, FOR WHAT? YEAH, I KNOW I HAVE TO STAY, I'M GONNA, TRYING TO BE CAREFUL ARE, IT'S THE VENN DIAGRAM.
THERE IS, THERE IS AN OVERLAP THERE, RIGHT? WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CULTURAL TRUST, WITH APPLICATIONS, UH MM-HMM.
UM, I WANTED TO JUST GET SOME CLARIFICATION AS A ROOKIE HERE AND RIFFING OFF WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND SAID.
UH, SO THERE ARE 45 PROPOSALS SUBMITTED AND 14 IDENTIFIED PROJECTS.
AND THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
NO, ACTUALLY THAT'S A GREAT CLARIFICATION THAT I DIDN'T MAKE IN THE UPDATE.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE REAL ESTATE NATURE OF THE MAJORITY OF THEM, WE HAVE NOT ANNOUNCED THEM PUBLICLY.
UNTIL WE GET TO AN AGREEMENT WITH ALL PARTIES TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS.
SO THAT'S BEEN THE MOST COMPLICATED PART.
UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A GRANT PROGRAM, UM, CUZ WE REALLY HAVE TO WORK ON THE REALITIES OF THE REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT, UM, PROJECTS.
UM, SO THE FIRST TWO THAT WE ANNOUNCED WERE IN CITY OWNED BUILDINGS, AND THAT'S THE PD AND THE MILLENNIUM.
UM, ALL OTHER PROJECTS HAVE NOT BEEN ANNOUNCED BECAUSE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSIONS.
AND WHAT WAS THAT TIMELINE? I'M SORRY.
OF WHEN WE WILL ANNOUNCE THEM FOR THE, THE OTHER 12.
WE HOPE TO ANNOUNCE THEM AS SOON AS WE CAN.
I WOULD LOVE TO SCREAM THEM FROM THE ROOFTOPS, BUT UNTIL WE GET TO AN AGREEMENT AMONG MULTIPLE PARTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE NEGOTIATIONS, WE, WE CANNOT ANNOUNCE THEM.
WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.
I KNOW IT'S, IT'S, I WISH IT WAS EASIER.
OH, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE BECAUSE WE JUST, UH, WE'RE BOTH, THEY'RE BOTH EXISTING VENUES AND NEW VENUES.
AND, AND I PLEASE DO SHARE A DATE.
I KNOW WE, UH, UH, AT THE COMMISSION HAVE BEEN KEEN ABOUT, UH, A DATE WHEN THE REST OF THE RECIPIENTS WILL BE ANNOUNCED.
BUT I, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME HERE.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE LET DAN GO? I WILL SAY THAT OUR WEBSITE HAS A LOT OF UPDATES ON BOTH PROGRAMS. AUSTIN EDC.ORG.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YOU GOOD? OH, WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING UP THERE, ISN'T IT? THANK YOU.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DON'T, UH, MISS, MISS LAUREN THERE.
[7. Discussion and possible action on the status of providing 2022 Greater Austin Music Census data on the City of Austin website following staff briefing by David Gray, Assistant Director, Economic Development Department. ]
NEXT AGENDA ITEM, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE STATUS OF PROVIDING 2020 TO GREATER AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS DATA ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN WEBSITE.FOLLOWING STAFF BRIEFING BY DAVID GRAY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, E D D.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME TO SERVE IN THIS BODY.
UH, AND THANK YOU FORGING THIS ITEM.
UM, I, I FIRST WANNA START OFF BY JUST CLARIFYING A POINT THAT THE DATA FROM THE SOUND MUSIC CITY'S AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS FOR 2022 IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ONLINE.
SO ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WHO'S LOOKING TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION ONLINE@AUSTINMUSICCENSUS.ORG.
AGAIN, THAT'S AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS.ORG.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM SOUND MUSIC CITIES PRESENT FINDINGS FROM THAT CENSUS TO THIS BODY.
AND THAT PRESENTATION IS PART OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION'S PERMANENT HISTORICAL RECORD, WHICH IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
UH, SO THAT INFORMATION IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY WHO'S LOOKING FOR IT.
THE QUESTION THAT WE HAD BEFORE US, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT WOULD HOST A SURVEY ON THE CITY'S OPEN RECORD DATABASE.
AND AFTER SEVERAL ROUNDS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL OFFICES AND OTHERS, WE CONCLUDED THAT IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR US TO HOST THAT INFORMATION ON THE DATABASE.
AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO POINT PEOPLE IN DIRECTIONS WHERE THEY CAN FIND THE INFORMATION THAT'S FREE AND READILY AVAILABLE, BUT WE CANNOT HOST THE INFORMATION ON OUR DATABASE.
REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS THAT HOSTING INFORMATION FROM AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATION ON A CITY DATABASE WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICY AND OUR PRACTICE.
NUMBER ONE, WE DIDN'T COMMISSION THE INFORMATION.
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WE WEREN'T A PART OF PUTTING TOGETHER THE SURVEY QUESTIONS OR THE METHODOLOGY OR ASSESSING THE DATA.AND SO WHEN WE HOST THINGS ON OUR WEBSITE THAT PUTS CITY STAFF IN A POSITION WHERE WE ESSENTIALLY BECOME OWNERS OF THE PROJECT, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PROJECT.
WELL, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT INTO THE PROJECT ITSELF, OTHER THAN ASKING PEOPLE TO COMPLETE THE CENSUS, UH, IT DOES NOT PUT OUR STAFF IN AN OPTIMAL POSITION TO WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO TALK AND, AND ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SURVEY.
WE COULD PASS THE INFORMATION ONTO THE THIRD PARTY, BUT THAT'S ALSO NOT GOOD PRACTICE FOR OUR STAFF.
THE, THE, THE OTHER ISSUE THAT THAT'S SOMEWHAT OF A COMPOUNDING ISSUE IS THIS ISSUE OF FAVORITISM.
IT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A, A BIG WORD THAT MEANS THAT WHATEVER WE DO FOR ONE ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE TO DO FOR EVERY OTHER ENTITY IN THE CITY.
SO IF WE WERE TO HOST THE SOUND MUSIC CITIES INFORMATION ON OUR OPEN DATA PORTAL, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT SAME LEVEL OF ACCESS TO ANY INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATION WHO ASK US TO HOST THEIR SURVEY RESULTS ON OUR CITY DATABASE.
AND SO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT CAN GET INTO SOME VERY DICEY TERRITORY.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THE METHODOLOGY IS A METHODOLOGY THAT WE KNOW WAS FLAWED? WHAT HAPPENS IF THE QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS THAT WE KNOW WERE SKEWED? WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEBODY PUBLISHES SURVEY RESULTS? BUT THE NUMBER OF RESPONDENTS IS NOT STATISTICALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY? DOESN'T MATTER IF WE INDISCRIMINATELY PROVIDE A LEVEL OF ACCESS FOR ONE ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT SAME LEVEL OF ACCESS FOR OUR ORGAN ALL ORGANIZATIONS.
AND SO, AGAIN, IT KIND OF PUTS OUR STAFF IN THIS POSITION WHERE WE WOULD BE ESTABLISHING A PRECEDENT THAT IS A STRONG DEVIATION FROM OUR COMMON PRACTICE, WHICH IS TO WORK WITH OUR COMMISSIONS ON PROJECTS, IDENTIFY HOW WE WANT THOSE PROJECTS TO FLOW, EITHER IN, EITHER AS A CITY COMMISSION, THOSE PROJECTS RIGHT, EITHER DIRECTLY THROUGH OUR STAFF OR THROUGH A THIRD PARTY.
AND WE PUT OUT AN RFP AND WE SOLICIT AND WE WORK WITH OUR THIRD PARTY PARTNERS TO CONSTRUCT SURVEYS OR OTHER PROJECTS.
AND THEN WE, WE FEEL CONFIDENT IN OUR ABILITY TO OWN IT.
AND THEN WE PUBLISH THE RESULTS.
SO AGAIN, OUR, OUR ISSUE IS NOT WITH THE SURVEY FINDINGS.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH SOUND MUSIC CITIES, RIGHT? AND SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS ANYTHING, UH, PERSONAL BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE ORGANIZATION, OR THAT WE WANT TO HIDE ANY DATA OR INFORMATION.
IT'S NOT THAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO FIND THE INFORMATION, IT'S READILY AVAILABLE@AUSTINMUSICCENSUS.ORG.
IF YOU WANNA WATCH THE COMMISSION PRESENTATION, THAT PRESENTATION IS AVAILABLE IN OUR HISTORICAL RECORD FOR THIS COMMISSION.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY.
IT JUST COMES DOWN TO A MATTER OF POLICY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, IN THIS SITUATION, THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH OUR PRACTICE AND WITH OUR POLICY.
UH, SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALREADY HEARD THAT.
UM, AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED, UM, THAT YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE SENDING PEOPLE TO WHERE THE CENSUS INFORMATION LIVES ON, UM, AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS.ORG.
SO, UM, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW WOULD IT BE WORDED? SURE.
IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS AND, AND THEY ASKED US, HEY, WE HEARD THAT THERE WAS THIS MUSIC CENSUS DONE.
UH, WE CAN'T FIND IT ON YOUR WEBSITE.
WHERE CAN WE FIND IT? UH, MYSELF, KIM, ANY, ANY OF OUR STAFF AT THE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAPPILY REDIRECT PEOPLE TO THAT CENSUS.
UH, DURING THE TIME WHEN SOUND MUSIC CITIES WAS TRYING TO RECRUIT PEOPLE TO TAKE THE CENSUS, UM, WE DID HELP SUPPORT THE PROMOTION OF THE CENSUS.
AND SO IN THAT RESPECT, WE COULD ALSO HELP AMPLIFY, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS, THIS HAPPENED.
THIS IS WHERE THE RESULTS ARE.
UM, AND SO WE WOULD SIMPLY REDIRECT PEOPLE TO THAT WEBPAGE THAT IS OPERATED, I'M ASSUMING BY SOUND MUSIC CITIES.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THEIR WEBPAGE.
UM, BUT WE WOULD JUST REDIRECT PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY COULD FIND THE INFORMATION.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, IF FOLKS DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO READ THE CENSUS RESULTS THEMSELVES, AND THEY WANTED A PRESENTATION, THEN WE'D ALSO HAPPILY DIRECT THEM TO THE VIDEO RECORDING FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, MEETING WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
I DON'T HAVE THAT DATE IN FRONT OF ME TONIGHT.
UH, BUT WE DO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO FOLKS AS WELL.
SO THAT WOULD ONLY BE IF PEOPLE REACH OUT TO YOU DIRECTLY ASKING THAT QUESTION, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING ON THE CITI WEBSITE.
WE, WE WOULDN'T HOST STUFF LIKE THAT ON OUR WEBSITE.
AGAIN, IF WE DO IT FOR ONE ORGANIZATION, THEN I HAVE TO DO IT FOR EVERY NO, I, I MEAN, DIRECTING IT ELSEWHERE, SAYING LIKE, FOR INFORMATION ON THE CENSUS.
WE, WE WOULDN'T HOST SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON OUR, ON OUR WEBPAGE.
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IF IT WAS A, A TRUE PARTNERSHIP, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE WERE EARLY COLLABORATORS ON.UH, AND WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
UM, THERE ARE INSTANCES, I, I WANNA BE CLEAR THERE, THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE WILL DO STUFF LIKE THAT, UH, FOR SURVEYS THAT AREN'T COMMISSIONED BY THE CITY.
UH, AND IN THOSE CASES, IT'S A SURVEY THAT'S COMMISSIONED BY ANOTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITY.
SO IF TRAVIS COUNTY DID A SURVEY, IF THE STATE OF TEXAS DID A SURVEY, TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE DOES A SURVEY.
UH, IF A FEDERAL AGENCY DOES A SURVEY, LIKE THOSE THINGS WE WILL READILY AND ACTIVELY PROMOTE, WE JUST CANNOT DO IT WITH INDEPENDENT, PRIVATE THIRD PARTIES.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BASICALLY IS IF I DID A SURVEY AND I JUST KNOCKED OFF SOME DOORS, AND WE WOULD ALLOW THIS, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, TO BE PART OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR ON THE CITY WEBSITE, THEN BY THAT PROXY YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO ALLOW WHAT I HAVE GOTTA ALLOW YOUR SURVEY.
COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, WOULD THERE BE A WAY FOR THE NEXT MUSIC CENSUS FOR THE CITY TO BE INVOLVED IN FUNDING IT AND OVERSEEING IT SO THAT IT COULD BE, UH, AUTHORIZED SURVEY THAT, UH, AND THE CITY COULD ENSURE THAT IT DOES MEET ALL OF THE STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO PROMOTE THESE SURVEYS AS THESE OTHER GOVERNMENT ENERGY SURVEYS ARE SO LOOKING FORWARD? CAN WE GET IT? CAN WE GET THIS TO BE LEGIT? SURE.
I, I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S A POSSIBILITY AND WE'D BE OPEN TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, OBVIOUSLY WITH YOU, THE, THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND ALSO WITH THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR.
UH, WE ALSO DO JUST KIND OF ON OUR OWN ANNUALLY, UM, SURVEY MUSICIANS AS WELL AS OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR WORK PORTFOLIO, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, ENTREPRENEURS, OTHER CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS.
UH, AND WE PUBLISHED THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, IF, IF, UM, THERE WAS A DESIRE FOR US TO PARTNER WITH SOUND MUSIC CITIES OR ANOTHER THIRD PARTY ENTITY ON DOING A MUSIC CENSUS IN AUSTIN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE.
AND THEN WE'D ALSO HAVE TO EXPLORE THE PATHWAYS FOR DOING THAT.
I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT IT WOULD NECESSARILY BE A SOLE SOURCE WITH ONE ORGANIZATION AS OPPOSED TO A RFP.
SO WE'D ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT POLICIES TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
BUT IT'S TOTALLY WITHIN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY.
THAT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER EVEN, I, I HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE CENSUS AT ALL SINCE IT WAS LAUNCHED.
AND WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY LAUNCHED, IT WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT CONTR CONTROVERSIAL IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW PEOPLE AND ENTITIES AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE WERE ENGAGING IN THAT ANYWAY.
AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE ANY DATA FROM THAT CENSUS IS YET ANYWAY.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE FROM SOUND MUSIC CITIES OR WHATEVER CAN, CAN COME AND SPEAK TO THAT COMMISSION, PATTON? YEAH, SO I, UM, THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETING THAT DAVID GRAY'S REFERRING TO, WE HAD A OVERVIEW OF THE DATA THAT WAS RECEIVED.
AND I DO THINK IT'S ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THEM COME BACK AND GIVE US A MORE EXTENSIVE PRESENTATION OF THE DATA.
AND I WAS JUST GLANCING AT THEIR SITE.
I APO MY APOLOGIES FOR LOOKING AT MY PHONE, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEM.
UM, THERE IS DATA ON THE WEBSITE.
UH, I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS, SO WHAT MR. PITTS WAS REQUESTING IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING WAS THE HOSTING OF THE RAW DATA.
AND I'M NOT REALLY CLEAR WITH, UH, WITH, WITH PERSONAL INFORMATION IDENTIFIERS TAKEN OUT.
SO WITH SOME, I THINK THEY WERE REQUESTING POSSIBLY SOME TECHNICAL TECHNIC THAT, WOULD THAT BE, WERE THEY ASKING FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY AND THE POSTING OF THE DATA? I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHEN THEY MADE THAT REQUEST.
THE, WHAT THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY FROM CORRECT.
MY, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE REQUEST, AND, AND I CAN GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE REQUEST WAS THAT THEY WERE ASKING US TO HOST THE RAW DATA ON THE CITY'S OPEN DATA PORTAL.
SO THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOES HAVE AN OPEN DATA PORTAL.
IT'S, MANY CITIES HAVE THESE, IT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU CAN GO IN AS A CITIZEN AND INDEPENDENTLY COMB THROUGH DATA ABOUT THINGS THAT, THAT YOU CARE ABOUT.
EVERYTHING FROM SIDEWALKS TO POLICE STOPS, RIGHT? AND SO IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE, UH, I BELIEVE THE, THE REQUEST WAS FOR US TO HOST, THERE ARE DATA SO THAT PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THE DATA AND DO AN INDEPENDENT EVALUATION CAN DO THAT.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.
RIGHT? NOTHING'S NECESSARILY STOPS THEM IF IT'S WITH, IF THEY HAVE THE TECHNICAL ABILITY TO DO IT, NOTHING STOPS THEM FROM PUBLISHING THEIR OWN RAW DATA.
AND IF THEY DID THAT, WE'D BE, AGAIN, HAPPY TO REDIRECT THE PUBLIC TO WHERE THEY CAN FIND THAT.
JUST IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CITY OWNED DATA, IT, IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR POLICY TO PUBLISH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, PRIVATE THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATION, RAW DATA ON OUR OPEN DATA PLATFORM, AND THEN MAKE CITY STAFF RESPONSIBLE
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FOR THE OWNERSHIP AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT DATA.SO I THINK SOME OF THE CONFUSION WITH THIS IS ARISEN BECAUSE, UM, FORMER MAYOR ADLER'S OFFICE WAS A PARTNER IN THE, IN THE, IN THE SURVEY.
THEY DIDN'T DEVELOP THE SURVEY, BUT I THINK, SO FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION, LIKE WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE ARE MAKING, WHEN WE WERE MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION, UM, WHAT WAS POSSIBLE OR WHAT THE REALLY THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY WAS.
UM, BUT IT, SO IN TERMS OF JUST A GENERAL PROCESS, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, THE COMMISSION DOES MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THERE'S, UM, PROCEDURAL REASONS WHY THAT CAN'T BE PUT INTO EFFECT BY STAFF.
UM, IT, IT'S HARD TO, IT'S CONFUSING WHEN YOU, YOU FIND THAT OUT FROM A REPORTER THAT CALLS YOU
SO IT'S JUST HELPFUL TO US ON THE COMMISSION IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES UP IN THE FUTURE, IF WE CAN KNOW SO THAT WE, WE CAN KIND OF ADDRESS IT AND IT DOESN'T BECOME LIKE A STICKY ISSUE.
UH, AND THEN I CAN GIVE A BETTER ANSWER TO, OR ANY OF US WHO ARE CONTACTED CAN GIVE A BETTER ANSWER.
AND WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, A, IT JUST ISN'T, IT DOESN'T LOOK ANTAGONISTIC.
AND I APOLOGIZE IF THAT HAPPENED TO YOU.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, OUR DEPARTMENT WAS NOT CONTACTED BY ANY DE REPORTERS MM-HMM.
AND THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAPPENING OVER EMAIL HAPPENED A, A FEW DAYS BEFORE THAT STORY PUBLISHED.
SO I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU EVEN HOW THE STORY GOT OUT THERE.
NOT THAT WE HAD ANYTHING TO SHY AWAY FROM.
SO I DON'T, NO, AND SHOUT OUT TO CHAD, WHO'S PROBABLY WATCHING, SHOUT OUT TO CHAD, A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH REPORTERS.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING, I JUST WANNA YOUR CONVERSATION WITH SOUND MUSIC CITIES, I GUESS WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY WERE NOTIFIED AND IT WASN'T EVEN A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION JUST AMONG CITY STAFF ABOUT WHETHER OR OR NOT WE WERE ABLE TO PUBLISH THIS DATA.
SO WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, QUITE FRANKLY, TO, TO EVEN CIRCLE BACK AROUND WITH YOU AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CHAIR, JUST TO UPDATE YOU ON THE STATUS OF THAT WORK BEFORE THE STORY PUBLISHED.
SO IT, IT WAS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE INFORMATION WAS PUBLISHED KIND OF IN, IN THE WAY THAT IT WAS.
WE HAVE NO ANIMOSITY TOWARDS ANY REPORTER OR ANY MEDIA AGENCY.
UM, BUT I, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR CONCERN.
I ALSO WANNA CLARIFY TOO, THAT IN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE WERE HAVING WITH CITY STAFF, UM, OUR MAIN POINT WAS THAT ED D CANNOT BE THE, THE OWNER OF THE DATA.
CAUSE WE DIDN'T COMMISSION IT, RIGHT? IF OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR IF OTHER OFFICES WITHIN THE CITY PARTNER WITH THIRD PARTIES, THEIR STAFF HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOST AND OWN THE DATA IF THEY WANT TO.
AND WE DID MAKE THAT CLEAR TO THE OTHER STAFF ON THAT CHAIN THAT IF THEIR DEPARTMENT OR THEIR OFFICE WANTED TO HOST AND OWN BECAUSE THEY HAD PARTNERED WITH THE ORGANIZATION, THEN THAT WAS TOTALLY WITHIN THEIR REALM TO DO THAT.
IT'S JUST BECAUSE ED D DID NOT DO THAT.
WE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ESTABLISHING THAT PRECEDENT AND REQUIRING OUR STAFF TO HOST AND OWN DATA THAT WE DID NOT, UH, PLAY AN ACTIVE ROLE IN, IN CULTIVATING.
AND OBVIOUSLY A FORMER MAYOR'S OFFICE IS NOT, THEY'RE LITERALLY NOT PRESENT TO, TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT.
AND I DO WANNA THANK YOU, DAVID.
DAVID, UH, DOES HOLD REGULAR MEETINGS WITH NA, GAAL AND I, BUT THEY'VE BEEN INTERRUPTED TEMPORARILY BECAUSE DAVID HAD TO GO AND HELP ANOTHER, YEAH.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY PARTIALLY WHY WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AND, AND THANK YOU DAVID FOR, UM, SHARING THE STANCE, UH, THAT ED D HAS ON THIS AT THE MOMENT.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, CONCERNS, UM, AROUND, UM, THIS WHOLE ISSUE AND, AND JUST SOME, UM, JUST SOME OBSERVATIONS OR COMMENTS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I MEAN, MY IDEA WAS THAT THE OPEN DATA PORTAL AT SOME POINT WAS CREATED TO ALSO BE ABLE TO HOST SOME OF THE COMMUNITY LED INFORMATION.
AND I COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG ON THAT, BUT ON THIS COMMISSION.
AND JUST SO THAT, UH, AGAIN, I LEVEL SET WITH, UM, UH, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HERE, UH, EQ AUSTIN HAS BEEN ONE OF THE LEAD PARTNERS ON THIS COMMISSION.
IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT I CHAIR, AND WE WERE MAINLY, UH, DRIVING THE DEI, UH, THE DIVERSE, UH, THE ENGAGEMENT WITH DIVERSE, UH, COMMUNITIES AND ARTISTS AND ORGANIZATIONS FOR THIS SURVEY.
THIS IS A SURVEY THAT WAS LED BY, UH, MAYOR ADLER VERY WELL, CLEARLY SUPPORTED THE EDD LOGO IS ON THE, I'M LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE.
IT'S ON THERE, UH, ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UH, SOUND CITIES, EQ AUSTIN, MAINLY DELIVERING ON THE, UM, ON THE D E I ENGAGEMENT, UH, JUICE CONSULTING, K UTX.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT IT, THIS IS A, THIS IS A SURVEY DONE
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BY A VERY CREDIBLE ORGANIZATION THAT YOU HAVE ENGAGED WITH OR, OR, OR THAT HAS DONE WORK IN THIS REALM IN THE PAST.UM, SO PERSONALLY, I DON'T PARTICULARLY QUESTION THEIR, THEIR, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR ABILITY TO RUN A SURVEY LIKE THIS.
BUT BEYOND THAT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SERVES THE MUSIC COMMUNITY.
THERE'S BEEN A CLEAREST, UH, MOTION FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION REQUESTING THAT THIS INFORMATION, UM, BE MADE AVAILABLE.
UH, AND THAT BE CLEARLY LOOKED INTO.
SO FIRST OF ALL, IT DOES CONCERN ME THAT IT TAKES, UH, A, A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE, UH, AND FOR US TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, UH, FOR, UH, ED D TO CIRCLE BACK WITH THE, WITH THE COMMISSION, I WOULD REALLY REQUEST, LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PATS HAD SAID IN PROBABLY MUCH MORE POLITE TERMS TO JUST PLEASE COME AND SHARE THIS INFORMATION IN A TIMELY MANNER.
UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, THIS SURVEY SERVES THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
WELL, NOT ONLY WAS IT LED BY MAYOR ADLER, UH, AND SOME VERY CREDIBLE ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE HAD, I, I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PARTNERS HERE.
URBAN MUSIC FEST, URBAN ARTIST ALLIANCE, URBAN ENTERTAINMENT LONG CENTER, K U T X, THE BREAKS, TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE, SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST SIMS. I'M GOING TO READ MORE HERE.
RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT RECORDING ACADEMY.
MUSIC VENUE ALLIANCE, MOSAIC, LET, LATIN MUSIC COALITION OF AUSTIN, K X A N, COOPER RADIO, INDIAN FINANCE HOME, HOUSE OF SONGS, HAM GIRLS ROCK, AUSTIN GIRL GANG, FLAMENCO, INDIA FIESTA AUSTIN.
DO 512 DESTRUCTIONS PRODUCTIONS.
DJ CRASH, A E D C, CARNIVAL BEACH, MR. TAMAR WILLIAMS. PRODUCTION HOUSE C3 PRESENTS.
BMI, BLACK FRED WORLD BEAT ALLIANCE, TEXAS.
AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS, TEJANO MUSIC COALITION.
PERSIAN FOUNDATION, AUSTIN MUSIC FOUNDATION, AUSTIN LATINO MUSIC.
AUSTIN LATINO MUSIC ASSOCIATION, A D C, AUSTIN DANCE INDIA, AUSTIN CREATIVE ALLIANCE, A ACC, MUSIC, BUSINESS PERFORMANCE AND TECHNOLOGY.
AUSTIN NATION IMPACTS SCHOOL OF INDIAN PERCUSSION, UH, CLASSICAL MUSIC, UH, SCHOOL OF INDIAN CLASSICAL MUSIC, AGNI FOUNDATION FOR THE ARTS.
AMONGST MANY OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAN THAT, THESE ORGANIZATIONS FURTHER ENGAGED.
WHAT IS NOT THERE TO SUPPORT HERE? I, I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED, THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE GOTTEN ON THIS SURVEY.
EVERY GROUP DEMOGRAPHIC OF PARTICIPATION, WHETHER IT'S BLACK, ASIAN, LATINO, EXCEPT FOR NATIVE AMERICANS, WHERE I SAW THE NUMBER GO DOWN A BIT, IT HAS MORE, AT LEAST DOUBLED COMPARED TO 2014 CENSUS.
AND WE ARE HERE TO SERVE THE MUSIC COMMUNITY.
I WOULD THINK THAT THE MUSIC DEPARTMENT IN EDD IS HERE TO SERVE THE MUSIC COMMUNITY.
ARE WE, ARE WE SAYING THAT THIS KIND OF, UH, THIS KIND OF INFORMATION, THAT THIS VARIATION OF PROVIDING INFORMATION ON THE OPEN DATA PORTAL HAS NEVER BEEN DONE SO FAR? AND, AND IS, IS THERE NO PRECEDENT TO THIS? AND AND ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TRANSPARENCY.
THIS IS, THIS IS A SURVEY THAT WAS DONE PRO BONO.
SO THERE WAS, THERE WERE NO FEES PAID.
SO THERE IS NO QUESTION OF ED D OR ANYBODY ELSE PAYING THESE GUYS ANY FUND, ANY FUNDS TO, TO RUN THE SURVEY BECAUSE IT WAS DONE PRO BONO BY ALL ENTITIES.
SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS REALLY STOPPING US FROM BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION ON AN OPEN DATA PORTAL WITH THE CITY CAPABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO REDACT, UH, PERSONAL IDENTIFIERS, WHICH, WHICH THE CITY WILL HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.
WHAT IS STOPPING US FROM PROVIDING THIS, THIS INFORMATION SO THAT IT CAN BE BROADLY USED BY GOVERNMENT, PRIVATE, AND NONPROFIT ENTITIES IN, IN, IN A MANNER THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL IN MAKING DECISIONS.
OUR OWN MANNER IN WHICH WE ARE DOING OUR GRANTS SHOULD BE BASED ON DATA.
AND WE HAVE NOT HAD A CENSUS SURVEY RUN FROM 2014.
SO I WOULD CONTINUE TO STRONGLY ADVOCATE FOR THIS INFORMATION TO BE AVAILABLE ON A CITY PORTAL, AN OPEN DATA PORTAL WITH AUTO WHATEVER DEAL, UH, NUANCES, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT, THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO PUT AROUND IT SO THAT IT IS BROADLY AVAILABLE AND PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING AND SEARCHING FOR IT, YOU KNOW, ON SOME PRIVATE WEBSITE.
UH, SO, UM, ANY, ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE ON ANYTHING THAT I'VE SAID? SURE.
COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, YOU, YOU NOTED THAT ED D'S LOGO IS INCLUDED IN THAT GROUP OF REALLY AMAZING AND DYNAMIC ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALSO FEATURED ON THAT WEBPAGE.
SO FOR US, THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF WHETHER WE SUPPORT THE SURVEY OR DON'T SUPPORT THE SURVEY, WHETHER WE AGREE
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WITH THE FINDINGS OR WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE FINDINGS, WHETHER WE SUPPORT THE MUSIC COMMUNITY OR WE DON'T SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.REALLY, FOR US, WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS A MATTER OF, IS IT OUR, IS IS IT WITHIN OUR REALM AS THE CITY TO SAY THAT OUR STAFF OWN DATA AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DATA FOR A SURVEY THAT WE DIDN'T COMMISSION, AND THAT WE DIDN'T PLAY A, A DEEP ROLE IN ANALYZING AND DEVELOPING.
I JUST, AGAIN, OUR NAME IS THERE.
OUR NAME IS, THERE'S NO PRECEDENT.
IS THERE NO PRECEDENT TO THERE? THERE'S NOT A LIKE THIS BEING ON, THERE'S, I REALLY, I'M SORRY.
I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST REMIND DECORN, I REALLY, YEAH, I I RAISE MY HAND.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THIS, I, I FEEL YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS, UM, I'M A JUST PLEASE, OKAY.
I, I AM WELL AWARE OF DECORUM.
I LET HIM KNOW THAT I WAS GOING TO INTERRUPT AND I ASKED THE QUESTION.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD.
FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, NO, THERE'S NOT A PRECEDENT FOR THAT.
I DO KNOW THAT, THAT YOU AND, AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE NOTED THAT THIS SURVEY WAS SUPPORTED BY FORMER MAYOR STEVE ADLER'S OFFICE.
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SINCE THAT ADMINISTRATION HAS ENDED, THERE ARE OTHER CITY COUNCIL OFFICES THAT HAVE PICKED UP THIS BATON, RIGHT? AND, AND THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN OFFICE, AND THEIR STAFF ARE CURRENTLY SUPPORTING THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS MM-HMM.
AND SO IT IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THOSE COUNCIL OFFICES TO OWN THE DATA FOR THE SURVEY THAT THEY SUPPORT IF THEY WOULD LIKE.
AND, AND WE'VE NOTIFIED THOSE COUNCIL OFFICES TO THAT EFFECT.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A MATTER OF LIKE, CAN THE CITY DO IT? AND I THINK IF YOU WERE PROVIDED ACCESS TO THE WHOLE EMAIL THREAD, AND NOT JUST WHAT WAS CHERRY PICKED FOR A NEWS REPORT, YOU WOULD SEE THAT WE'VE TRIED TO BE INNOVATIVE, AND WE TRIED TO BE HELPFUL TO OUR COUNCIL OFFICES AND TO OUR SIBLING DEPARTMENTS ON HOW THIS DATA COULD EXIST.
IT'S JUST FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, OUR POLICY IS THAT WE DON'T OWN DATA THAT WE DID NOT COMMISSION, THAT WE DID NOT PAY FOR, AND THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A HAND IN DEVELOPING.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO OUR STAFF TO PUT THEM IN THAT POSITION WHERE THEY DO IT.
AND IF WE DO IT FOR THIS ONE ORGANIZATION WITH ALL THESE GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS, I HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE TO EVERY ORGANIZATION, INCLUDING ONES WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE SUCH A ROBUST LIST OF GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
BUT I, I'M HAPPY TO, TO MEET WITH YOU AND, AND SHOW YOU THE EMAIL THREAD AND SHOW YOU THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO BE RESPONSIVE.
WE TRIED TO BE INNOVATIVE IN OUR THINKING.
WE TRIED TO FIND WAYS TO GET THIS DONE.
UNFORTUNATELY, UH, A NEWS REPORT WAS PUBLISHED SHORTLY AFTER OUR ONLINE INTERNAL STAFF CONVERSATION.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT HAP HOW, HOW THAT HAPPENED.
UH, THIS IS MY FIRST DAY BACK WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AFTER FIVE WEEKS AS INTERIM PLANNING DIRECTOR.
SO I DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF YOU, AND I DO APOLOGIZE.
SINCERELY, I APOLOGIZE FOR HOW THIS HAPPENED.
I WISH WE WOULD'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF YOU, UH, EARLIER.
UH, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO FIND WAYS TO MAKE THIS WORK.
THERE'S JUST NO PRECEDENT FOR IT IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
UM, AT THE MOMENT, IT SEEMS THAT THE CENSUS INFORMATION IS ON WWW AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS.ORG.
AND SO, I GUESS REALLY THE, I'M THE COMMISSIONER THAT WAS APPOINTED BY, UM, MAYOR WATSON.
SO I'LL, I WILL HELP ANY WAY I CAN PER, YOU KNOW, REALIZE WHERE THE BATONS ARE AND HOW TO HELP PICK THEM BACK UP.
UM, BUT WHAT WE NEED, I THINK WHAT WE, ALL, OUR TEAM, SO TO SPEAK, NEEDS IS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS OF PROCESSING THE INFORMATION FROM THE CENSUS.
SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE GOAL IS.
AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED IS BECAUSE WE WANT THE DATA POINTS TO COME UP WITH SOME STRATEGIC GOALS TO HELP OUR CITY AND OUR MUSICIANS.
AND SO, UH, AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL GUIDE US INTO THE FUTURE BASED ON THE CURRENT CENSUS INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT DO WE DO TO GET THERE? HOW DO WE GET THERE? WHAT, AND, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS NOW, LET'S SET UP A MEETING TO DISCUSS.
SO ALL THIS PASSIONATE HARD WORK WILL NOT BE IN VAIN.
IT'S ON A WEBSITE, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED SOME ENTITY TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OVER PROCESSING THIS INFORMATION AND LEAD US AND HAVE SOME NORTH STARS OF WHERE WE CAN GO, UM, NEXT.
AND I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, I THINK, I KNOW WE CAN FIND THE SOLUTIONS TO INTERPRETING THE INFORMATION.
THE, THE ISSUE, THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THAT THE FIRST MUSIC CENSUS CAME OUT IN 2014, AND IT GOT A LOT OF PRESS.
IT GOT, IT HAD A LOT OF AWARENESS, AND THIS NEW ONE HAS COME OUT
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AND PEOPLE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT.AND LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW DO THESE SURVEYS GET LEGITIMACY IN THE LARGEST SENSE? IT'S WHEN THE DATA GETS USED, WHEN IT GETS PEER REVIEWED, WHEN PEOPLE START REFERRING TO IT AS THE, UH, MOST TRUSTED INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE.
NOW, THE SPECIFIC IMPRIMATUR OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN MAY MAKE SOME DIFFERENCE AT A SMALL LEVEL, BUT WHEN THAT DATA REALLY GETS OUT THERE, WHEN PERHAPS ACADEMIC ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS, UH, THE UNIVERSITY, UH, TAKES THAT DATA AND PUTS IT TO REALLY GOOD USE, UH, MS. UH, MS. HAYES WAS TALKING BEFORE ABOUT HOW THEY USED THE LBJ SCHOOL TO, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE A E D C.
ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ON THE CITY INFORMA, UH, THE CITY WEBSITE, OR WHETHER THEY GET IT DIRECTLY FROM, UM, UH, FROM SOUND CITIES, THAT THAT SHOULDN'T MATTER SO MUCH.
WE NEED TO GET THIS DATA OUT THERE AND USED, UH, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR EQ AUSTIN, PERHAPS TO COMMISSION A STUDY OR MAYBE EVEN US IN THE MUSIC, UH, IN THE MUSIC COMMISSION, TO HAVE SOME JUST BASIC RESEARCH DONE AROUND BOTH THIS CENSUS AND THE LAST ONE THAT WOULD GET IT OUT THERE IN THE PRESS AND GET PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A SOLUTION THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A SOLUTION OF WE CAN REACT FROM THE INFORMATION FROM 2014 TO THE INFORMATION NOW.
AND IF WE NEED TO FIND THE RESOURCES, LET'S FIND THE RESOURCES.
BUT WE, WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
SO PERHAPS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE, BUT MAYBE WE PUT A PIN IN IT,
COMMISSIONER GOUL, I THINK YOU GOT YOUR HAND UP, AND YOU MIND IF I RESPOND TO THAT REALLY QUICKLY? COMMISSIONER, I'M SORRY.
I, I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS PICKED UP BY THE MEDIA WAS A CONVERSATION THAT WAS STILL BEING HAD MM-HMM.
WE GOT, WE, WE DETERMINED ONE CONCLUSION, WHICH WAS THAT ED D WOULD NOT OWN THE DATA, BUT WE WERE STILL AN ACTIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT, WELL, HOW MIGHT THE DATA MAKE ITS WAY TO THE OPEN DATA PORTAL? AND THEN TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER, OUR STAFF DID LOOK AT THE SURVEY, AND WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT DATA AND HOW IT INFORMS OUR NEXT ROUND OF PROGRAMMING, NOT JUST FOR THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, BUT EVEN AS OUR OTHER DIVISIONS ROLL OUT TRAININGS FOR MUSICIANS AND CREATIVES AND OTHER THINGS.
HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT DATA INFORM ALL THAT WE DO AS A DEPARTMENT? SO I JUST WANT TO CALL OUT THAT, I MEAN, WE, WE WOULD WELCOME ANY OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER EXPLORING HOW WE PROMOTE THE DATA, HOW WE UTILIZE THE DATA, IF THERE'S A PATHWAY TO GET THE DATA ON THE OPEN DATA PORTAL.
IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE, AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS THAT A, A NEWS STORY WAS PUBLISHED WITH PARTS OF A CONVERSATION THAT WAS STILL AN ONGOING DIALOGUE, BUT WE ACTUALLY HADN'T FINISHED THAT CONVERSATION INTERNALLY YET, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE DIDN'T CIRCLE BACK.
I LOVE TO CIRCLE BACK WITH RESOLUTIONS.
MY, MY PREFERENCE IS ALWAYS TO COME TO OUR COMMISSIONS AND SAY, HEY, WE HAD THIS PROBLEM, BUT HERE'S THE WAY THAT WE SOLVED IT.
OR AT LEAST HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR SOLVING IT.
LET US KNOW IF THIS IS GREAT, OR IF THIS IS GARBAGE AND YOU WANT US TO GO BACK AND TRY AGAIN.
BUT WE WERE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF, OF IDEATING AND, AND, AND KIND OF SHARING THOUGHTS ON, ON HOW TO GET THIS DONE.
IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT THE, THE STORY WAS PUBLISHED WITH ONLY A PORTION OF A CONVERSATION THAT WAS STILL IN PROGRESS.
AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR LETTING ME, LET ME STEER YOUR TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ACTUALLY A QUESTION.
UM, COMMISSIONER GOLD, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, SURE.
UH, IT WAS, IT WAS A WHILE AGO, AND A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID SINCE THEN.
SO, UH, UH, AND MY CAT IS BEING VERY DISTRACTING TO ME RIGHT NOW, AND HE'S PLAYING THE KEYBOARD.
HELMETS DO IT, UM, WHEN I'VE BEEN MUTED THIS WHOLE TIME.
UM, SO HELLO
AND, UM, ACTUALLY BACK IN, I THINK IT WAS 2012, UM, UH, I WAS FORTUNATE TO BE A PART OF A WORKING GROUP, UM, I THINK IT WAS CALLED THE MUSICIAN'S INITIATIVE WORKING GROUP.
AND WE GAVE A PRESENTATION BASED ON OUR INFORMAL SURVEY
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OURSELVES, UH, TO TRY TO, UH, COME TO THAT COMMISSION AT THAT TIME AND SAY, HERE ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP IN OUR COMMUNITY.AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE GAVE TO THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME WAS TO BE DOING REGULAR CENSUS, UM, OF THE MUSIC COMMUNITY.
AND SO I WAS VERY EXCITED WHEN DON PITTS CAME AND GAVE HIS PRESENTATION, BECAUSE HE WAS ACTUALLY ON CITY STAFF AT THE TIME THAT, UM, WE GAVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE THAT HAPPEN FULL CIRCLE.
UM, BUT IT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP SINCE I'VE BEEN AWARE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, EVEN THOUGH I'M BORN AND RAISED IN AUSTIN, I ONLY BECAME AWARE OF IT IN AROUND 20 10, 11.
UM, AND, UH, PEOPLE HAVE, HAVE SPOKEN UP ABOUT THEIR DESIRE TO SEE MORE REGULAR, UH, CENSUS TAKING.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, AS A NEED.
AND, UH, I'M, IF, IF I JUST DID IT, I JUST DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH, IT'S VERY EASY TO FIND THE RESULTS OF THE, OF THE, UH, SOUND CITY'S, UM, SURVEY, JUST GOOGLING AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS.
UM, BUT THEN ALSO THE CITY'S PAGE ON MUSIC CENSUS AND REPORTS COMES RIGHT UP UNDERNEATH IT.
AND THE LATEST ONE IS, IT ACTUALLY SAYS 2015.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I I, MY, THIS WHOLE LONG THREAD, I'M SORRY I'M A LITTLE BIT DISCOMBOBULATED AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING, BUT, UM, IS JUST TO SAY THAT I THINK THERE IS, UH, PLENTY OF NEED AND, UH, CALL WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, UH, FOR THIS TO BE AN ONGOING EFFORT.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT HOSTING, HOSTING THE RAW DATA ON THE OPEN DATA PORTAL TO ME, DOESN'T SEEM AS IMPORTANT AS, UM, REALLY MAKING SURE THAT LIKE, LIKE YOU ALL WERE SAYING, THAT, THAT THOSE DATA POINTS COME INTO PLAY WHEN, UH, THAT THE, THAT THE CITY PROGRAMS ARE CONSIDERING ARE ABLE TO CONSIDER THOSE DATA POINTS.
SO HOWEVER IT IS THAT THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE AND CONSIDERED IN THE CITY, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN COMPARING THAT INFORMATION OVER TIME.
ALSO, UM, I WANTED TO, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL SAID THE THING THAT I WAS GONNA INITIALLY SAY, WHICH IS THAT, UH, I REALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE FIGURING OUT A MECHANISM FOR PARTNERING, UH, WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS, DOING IN RFP, WHATEVER IT IS WE HAVE TO DO IN THE FUTURE, TO DO THIS IN THE, IN A WAY THAT AVOIDS ANY OF THESE, UM, ISSUES
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE SOUND CITIES HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB WITH THIS, AND SO HOWEVER WE CAN LEGITIMIZE THIS FOR FUTURE SERV, UH, CENSUS DATA, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT FOR US TO FORMALIZE, MAYBE WE MAKE A, MAYBE WE MAKE A MOTION OR A RECOMMENDATION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD BE FOR THE FUTURE.
I SEE ONE OF THEM AS, AS COMPARING AT THE CITY LEVEL, THE PREVIOUS SURVEY AND THE CURRENT SURVEY, UM, AS, UH, COMMISSIONER KAZA WAS MENTIONING, AND THEN ALSO HOW DO WE GO FORWARD IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO, UM, UTILIZE THE RESOURCES THAT THESE THREE THIRD PARTIES CAN OFFER, UH, AS A REAL ASSET TO THE, TO THE CITY, UM, THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.
UM, SO THAT'S MY BIG LONG
UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD.
UM, I THINK, UM, FIRST OF ALL, DAVID, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
THIS IS NOT A CLOSE TOPIC AT YOUR END, RIGHT? SO I WOULD REALLY, UM, REQUEST, UH, IF WE ADD THIS BACK TO THE AGENDA ITEM MAYBE NEXT TIME OR IN TWO MONTHS TIME, UM, IF YOU COULD COME AND HELP US, HELP US BASICALLY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THIS ONTO A PORTAL.
IF IT'S NOT THROUGH ED D THEN WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE AVAILABLE? UM, IT'S ALSO VERY, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY AND EDD IS ACTUALLY LOOKING TO USE THIS DATA FOR INFORMING, UH, DECISIONS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, REALLY GREAT TO HEAR.
UM, BEYOND THAT, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION.
IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY, UH, PASSED EARLIER, SO WE CAN LEAVE IT AT THAT.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, UM, UM, COMMISSIONER LAKE THAT, UM, AT LEAST IN THE ARTICLE, UH, THERE SEEMED TO BE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM, UM, YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE ON THIS FRONT AND IN GETTING
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THIS SURVEY ONLINE.SO IF THERE'S ANY FOLLOW UP THAT YOU CAN DO AND CIRCLE BACK ON, UM, HOW, UH, COUNCIL IS THINKING ABOUT IT, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER DATA POINT THAT WE CAN ADD TO, TO THIS MIX AND COLLECTIVELY FIGURE OUT, UM, HOW BEST TO MAKE THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
BECAUSE I DO REALLY THINK A LOT OF PASSION WENT INTO THIS SURVEY.
THERE WAS HEAVY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
IT'S BEEN UNPRECEDENTED BOTH FROM THE, UH, BROADER COMMUNITY AS WELL AS FROM THE BIPO COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK, UH, IT'S GONNA BE WORTHWHILE JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE DATA IS AVAILABLE FOR, YEAH.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UH, BEFORE WE LET, UH, DAVID GO? DAVID, YOU, YOU, WELL, I, I HAVE, I HAVE SOMETHING I WANNA SAY, BUT, UM, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE HERE FOR, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY WITH HIM HERE? WELL, NOT, NOT HERE, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, CAN I JUST ADD ONE QUICK THING BECAUSE SURE.
AND I THINK WE ALSO HEAR PRETTY LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE COMMISSION THAT YOU WANT US TO EXPLORE A, A, ANOTHER SERIES OF MUSIC CENSUS IS SINCE I, WHATEVER THE PLURAL OF CENSUS, I THINK THAT CITY DEMOGRAPHER WOULD LIKE POKE ME RIGHT NOW IF SHE HEARD ME MISSPEAK ON CENSUS.
BUT ANY RESPECT, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'LL TAKE BACK AS A TEAM AND, AND KIND OF CHEW ON AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A PATHWAY FOR US TO DO THAT AS WELL? AND TO DO IT IN A MANNER IN WHICH WE DON'T RUN INTO THESE KIND OF ISSUES BECAUSE THESE, THESE ARE THE LITTLE THINGS, RIGHT, THAT HANG US UP.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, ARE WE USING THE DATA? AND A HUNDRED PERCENT YES, WE ARE.
BUT AGAIN, HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL DO SOME BRAINSTORMING MYSELF, ERICA, KIM, AND THE TEAM, UH, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ALL WITH SOME IDEAS AROUND WHAT FUTURE MUSIC, MUSIC SYNTHESES LOOK LIKE.
DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? THANK YOU.
DAVID DID, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? UH, YOU WERE NO, JUST DAVID.
WELL, NO, I, I'M NOT FINISHED YET.
UM, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, I, I I I, WE'VE SPENT LIKE 30 MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS ONE PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.
AND I FEEL LIKE THIS COULD HAVE BEEN OVER AN EMAIL AND JUST KIND OF BEEN DONE AND OVER WITH.
I, I REALLY FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VOLUNTEERS AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOLDING THE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE THAT NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
BUT I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE LANGUAGE AND THE RHETORIC THAT WE'RE USING IN TERMS OF, OF, OF, OF SAYING THAT SOMEONE IS DOING THEIR JOB VERSUS NOT DOING THEIR JOB.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER GOULD POINTED OUT, I MEAN, YOU CAN GOOGLE AUSTIN MUSIC SENSES AND IT'S, IT'S THERE AND, UM, MAYBE IT'S NOT DIRECTLY ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
MAYBE ED AND SPONSOR FOR WHATEVER REASON.
OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE THE NEXT THING THAT WE COULD DO IS MAYBE GET ED D TO, TO, TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE TAKING OWNERSHIP OF, OF THE NEXT CENSUS.
BUT, UM, I, I, I REALLY, UM, I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO, UM, IF, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO, TO TO, TO CONVERSE THE WAY AND, AND, AND, AND IN THE MATTER OF WHICH THIS HAS HAPPENED, I THINK THAT, UM, IN MY OPINION, IT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED, UM, OVER POSSIBLY MORE SERIOUS ISSUES OR MAYBE SOME CLARIFICATION WORKED OUT BEFOREHAND, SOME TALKING OFFLINE OR SOMETHING.
UM, SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS AT NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
UH, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA
[8. Discussion and possible action following update from Joint Arts and Music Land Group. ]
ITEM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC LAND GROUP.UM, I WOULD MOVE JUST CUZ WE'RE, WELL, OKAY, I'M EIGHT AND NINE ARE BOTH ME, SO I'LL BE REALLY FAST.
UM, I'M EIGHT, UH, JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC, UH, LAND USE GROUP.
WE'RE MEETING AGAIN THIS THURSDAY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM DONALD JACKSON FROM ED D ABOUT, UM, ZONING ISSUES FOR CREATIVE USE SPACES AND HOW THAT CAN BE, HOW DEVELOPERS CAN BE INCENTIVIZED TO PROVIDE THOSE.
UM, AND, UH, WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER A LITTLE BIT IN THAT NEXT MEETING.
UH, BUT SINCE WE'RE SHORT ON TIME, I'LL JUST, I'D LIKE TO MOVE INTO ITEM NINE.
[9. Discussion and possible action following recap of Joint Arts and Music meeting Saturday, April 8, 2023. ]
ITEM NINE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING RECAP OF JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING ON SATURDAY.UH, WE DID HAVE OUR PRESENT, SO THAT GROUP DID HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM DONALD JACKSON.
AND DAVID GRAY IS BACK AT THE PODIUM.
HE'S, UH,
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YOU SO MUCH, DAVID.BUT YEAH, CAN YOU GIVE US THE BROAD STROKES OF THAT PRESENTATION AND TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS? SURE.
SO JUST AT A, AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL FOR COUNCIL, FOR COMMISSIONERS WHO, WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR, UH, LAST YEAR COUNCIL PASSED APPAREL RESOLUTIONS, UH, ONE IN JULY AND ONE SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
WHAT THEY ESSENTIALLY DO IS THEY DIRECTED STAFF TO INIT TO, UH, AMEND OUR CITY CODE, SUCH THAT, UH, DEVELOPERS, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WHO COME IN AND WANT TO, UH, DEVELOP HOUSING OR OTHER THINGS IN THE CITY, UH, HAVE INCENTIVES TO ALSO DEVELOP LIVE MUSIC VENUES ARE CREATIVE SPACES AS, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THE, THE COUNCIL ACTION TOLD US TO GO OFF INTO, TO DO THIS IN THE CITY CODE.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH COLLEAGUES, UH, IN OUR LAW DEPARTMENT, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, OBVIOUSLY OUR, OUR COMMISSIONERS ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THIS DONE.
UH, AND WE'RE MAKING PRETTY GOOD PROGRESS.
UM, LAST WEEK, OR ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE PRESENTED THE INFORMATION TO THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION, AND WE REALLY VERY MUCH APPRECIATED RECEIVING YOUR UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF WAS GOING.
ON APRIL 19TH, UH, WE PRESENTED, THE CITY HAS A, A SERIES OF, UH, OFFICIAL STOPS YOU HAVE TO MAKE ON THE WAY TO A CODE AMENDMENT, GETTING TO COUNCIL.
UH, AND SO ONE OF THOSE STOPS IS WITH THE CITY'S JOINT, UH, CODE AND ORDINANCES COMMITTEE.
UH, AND SO WE, WE TOOK THE ITEM TO THE CODE AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE ON APRIL 19TH.
UH, WE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT DISCUSSION AT THAT COMMITTEE AROUND SOME OF THE TECHNICAL ELEMENTS OF WHAT WE WERE PRESENTING.
UH, THEY VOTED TO POSTPONE THE ITEM UNTIL THEIR NEXT MEETING.
SO OUR CURRENT TIMELINE FOR GETTING THIS DONE, UH, IS TO GO BACK TO THE CODE AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE ON MAY 17TH.
UH, AT THAT TIME, WE'LL BE SEEKING THEIR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE ITEM.
UH, IF WE GET THAT, THERE'S A, A WHOLE SERIES OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN TERMS OF NOTICES AND PUBLIC NOTICES.
BUT THE NEXT BIG MILESTONE WILL BE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY'S PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, WE'RE ON TRACK TO PRESENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JUNE 27TH.
UH, AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT WONDER, WELL, WHY IS THERE THIS KIND OF DELAY BETWEEN MAY 17TH AND JUNE 27TH? AND IT'S JUST PART OF THE, THE MANDATORY NOTIFICATION PROCESS AND, AND HOW QUICKLY WE CAN MOVE.
UH, BUT THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS THE NEXT ONE THAT WE CAN GET IN FRONT OF.
UH, AS A RESULT, WE WOULD GET THIS ITEM BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 20TH.
I DO WANNA NOTE THAT WE'RE TAKING THESE ITEMS TO COUNCIL IN ESSENTIALLY A PART ONE AND A PART TWO.
THE PART ONE, WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO IS CODIFY DEFINITIONS FOR LIVE MUSIC VENUES AND CERTAIN CREATIVE SPACES, AN OUTLINE IN THE CITY KIND OF ZONING MAP, WHERE THOSE USES CAN EXIST.
THE REASON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT, AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, IS BECAUSE UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING GUIDELINES, LIVE MUSIC VENUES ARE CLASSIFIED AS COCKTAIL LOUNGES.
THOSE TWO USES ARE EXTREMELY DIFFERENT, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF THE FEEL AND WHY PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP, BUT OPERATIONALLY THEY'RE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? HOW THEY, HOW THEY MAKE REVENUE, HOW THEY SUPPORT COMMUNITY ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO UNDO SOME OF THAT AND ALSO CLEAN UP SOME LANGUAGE AROUND CREATIVE SPACES.
THE PART TWO IS THE PART THAT IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRICKY, AND THAT'S FIGURING OUT THE INCENTIVE COMPONENT.
UH, THE PART TWO JUST TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO REALLY GOOD STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT WITH YOU ALL, WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BOTH, UH, MUSICIANS AND CREATIVES, AS WELL AS OUR CITY FOLKS AND, AND OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
AND SO, BECAUSE THAT WORK'S GONNA TAKE MORE TIME, WE JUST FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN KNOCKING OUT THE LOW HANGING FRUIT FIRST.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH BY THAT JULY CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
AND THEN COMING BACK TO COUNCIL SHORTLY THEREAFTER WITH A CONVERSATION ON INCENTIVES, UH, AND HOW WE INCENTIVIZE OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO CREATE THESE SPACES AS PART OF THEIR PROJECTS.
WE'RE STARTING THAT PART TWO WORK NOW.
SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR PART ONE TO FINISH BEFORE WE DO THE PART TWO.
THERE ARE TRAINS THAT ARE ON PARALLEL TRACKS.
IT'S JUST THE PART ONE TRAIN IS A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN THE PART TWO TRAIN, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON, ON BOTH ENDS OF THAT COIN.
I DO APPRECIATE YOU, UH, UH, GINDI THIS ITEM AND, AND ALLOWING US TO GIVE YOU THE UPDATE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THIS ITEM.
ANY QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A QUICK, PERFECT, YEAH.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE WILL LOOK LIKE FOR PART TWO.
WOULD THAT BE LIKE ONLINE SURVEYS, IN-PERSON EVENTS, OR BOTH A COMBINATION OR, YEAH, IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF ALL THE ABOVE.
UH, BUT OUR PLANNING STAFF, UH, IN THE CITY CREATED A, A WEBSITE WHERE RESIDENTS CAN GO TO LEARN ABOUT ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ACTIVELY BEING WORKED ON MM-HMM.
AND SO THROUGH THAT WEBSITE, WE'LL HAVE SOME TOOLS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR PUBLIC INPUT, UH, WILL ALSO COME TO THE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, OF COURSE, THIS ONE, THE ARTS COMMISSION.
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UH, WE ALSO INTEND TO REACH OUT TO STAKEHOLDERS WHO WILL BE, YOU KNOW, TRULY IMPACTED BY STUFF LIKE THIS.UH, A LOT OF 'EM ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT, THAT YOU READ OFF, COMMISSIONER OR CHAIR.
UM, AND OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM, UH, SO, SO WE DO WANT TO DO VERY ROBUST STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.
THE GOAL IS TO PRESENT A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL THAT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS AND THAT STAFF SUPPORTS.
UM, SO THAT COUNCIL FEELS REALLY COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THOSE INCENTIVE IDEAS AS WELL.
WE WILL DO ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR DAVID.
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ]
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SHIRLEY, DO YOU WANT STEP? UH, YES.I HAVE SOME FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, DO YOU WANNA DO VOTE ON THESE ONE BY ONE? UM, SHARE ALL OF THEM PROBABLY AS A BATCH.
TOGETHER, UM, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING STAFF UPDATE ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION PROCESS, WHICH WILL HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BY, THE DEADLINE WILL BE PASSED BY THEN.
SO THAT'LL BE VERY INTERESTING.
UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON, UM, MUSIC HUBS.
DO WE NEED A, IS THAT GONNA BE A STAFF STAFF BRIEFING THAT? I THINK IF IT COMES, IT WOULD COME FROM MAYBE SPAR OR SOME ENTITY LIKE IQ AUSTIN.
WE CAN, SO WE'LL NOW THAT WE'LL SEE, WE'LL CLEAN UP, UH, LANGUAGE.
UH, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM ANN GATLING HAYNES OF A E D C ON BLOCK 16 AND 18.
AND ANYBODY ELSE? ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? UH, YEAH, WHEN DOES IT LOOK LIKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO RE-INSTITUTE LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCES FROM THE DISTRICTS? AGAIN, BECAUSE WE, WHAT WE USED TO HAVE IS STARTING WITH DISTRICT ONE.
EACH DISTRICT EACH MONTH WOULD NOMINATE OH YEAH.
UH, COMMISSIONER MAHONE WAS, UH, GOING TO, UH, HAVE A PERFORMANCE HERE TODAY, UH, BUT, UH, BRING SOMEBODY IN, BUT HE'S, HE'S OUT.
SO WE'LL JUST MOVE IT FROM THE NEXT, NEXT SESSION.
SO ARE THEY GONNA BE LIVE OR VIDEOS? UH, VIDEO VIDEOS RIGHT NOW.
UH, IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
WELL, SINCE, SINCE WE'LL BE KICKING IT OFF, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONGST JUST US COMMISSION MEMBERS TO TALK ABOUT, UH, BEST PRACTICES, WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE.
I, I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME GOOD I IDEAS AND IT'S THE FUNNEST THING THAT WE DO.
SO RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER MAHO ALREADY HAD THAT ON SCHEDULE.
UH, FOR THIS TIME OR NEXT TIME, IS THAT OKAY IF WE CONTINUE, UH, WITH THAT? NO, I, I WAS THINKING AS DISCUSSION ITEM.
I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT, UM, I SWAPPED WITH COMMISSIONER MAHOME, SO DISTRICT TWO, SO I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO GO STRAIGHT TO DISTRICT THREE, SINCE WE JUST HAD A DISTRICT TWO PERSON WAS THE LAST PERSON WE HAD, INSTEAD OF GOING ONE AND THEN BACK TO TWO AGAIN.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OH, I SEE.
UH, KIM, I THOUGHT IT WAS COMMISSIONER MAHONE WHEN WE TALKED, UH, SO WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT.
NO, IT, IT IS, I'M JUST SAYING WE SKIPPED HIM AND WENT STRAIGHT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE ADDING AN AGENDA ITEM TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
SO JUST, I THINK THE, THE ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON BEST PRACTICES FOR MUSIC PERFORMANCE AT MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS.
AND PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT, OR WAS JUST SAYING, I THINK THAT LAWRENCE CAT PLAYING THE PIANO
GLENN, DID YOU WANT TO ADD THE PARKING, UH, UM, UPDATE BACK IN? YES.
YEAH, LET'S DO THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION NEXT.
SO DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON PARKING, LOADING, UNLOADING, UM, HOWEVER WE SAID IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW EXACTLY WE SAID IT, BUT
UH, KIM, YOU KNOW THE ITEM, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THAT, THE ONE THAT WE MOVED FROM, UM, UM, THIS TIME.
UM, CAN WE
UM, BUT DURING MY FIRST COMMISSION MEETING WHEN I WAS ON ZOOM, I REMEMBER HEARING A WOMAN A, YOU KNOW, A CITIZEN MUSICIAN COME AND SPEAK ABOUT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST AND, UM, SOME ISSUES SHE WAS HAVING IN REGARDS TO SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.
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APPROACH THAT.MAYBE WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS JUST KIND OF HANGING OUT THERE.
THEY WERE GONNA COME BACK IN JUNE, UH, COME BACK.
WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR, THEY BASICALLY TOLD US THE SAME THING THAT THEY TOLD, UH, UH, THE PARKS BOARD THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR EVALUATION PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
AND WHEN THEY HAVE SOME AGGREGATE DATA, OR, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD WORD, THAT I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
SO WHEN THEY HAVE A COLLE A A FINALIZED COLLECTION OF DATA, THEY ARE GONNA COME AND SPEAK WITH US.
SO, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE, THEY SAID, UM, LATE MAY OR JUNE, SO I THINK WE JUNE I THINK, RIGHT.
SO I THINK WE COULD GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA YEAH.
AND IF THAT'S TOO SOON, THEN WE'LL JUST BUMP IT BACK TO JULY.
BUT, BUT YEAH, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO THAT WAS ON, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE AGENDA ITEM, SO YEAH, JUST DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING, UH, RECAP ON SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST 23 FROM SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST STAFF.
AND, UH, JUST PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UM, DISCUSSION AND, UM, POSSIBLE ACTION ON WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION'S.
MASSIVE DATABASE WHERE YOU COULD FIND ANYBODY, MUSICIANS, VENUES, UM, CONTACT INFORMATION.
KIM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS EXACTLY?
I, I CAN'T ALSO, I MEAN, JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THE TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE HAS LIKE A WHOLE LIKE, SWATH THAT WHERE IT IS.
THERE'S TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE HAS A, HAS A DATABASE THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO.
UM, AND, UM, A LOT OF THE CITIES AROUND TEXAS CONTRIBUTE TO AS WELL.
THAT, UH, CONTAINS ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION ON THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN THOSE CITIES, INCLUDING AUSTIN, UM, YOU KNOW, VENUE, SERVICES, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
SO THAT MIGHT, MIGHT BE IT, BUT YES, WE DO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT, UH, AND, UH, FOR THE AUSTIN PIECE.
SO I THOUGHT OF ONE OTHER THING.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN BUILD AROUND IT, OR NO, WHAT WAS DIRECTLY YEAH.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, DEFINITELY, UH, FOR ALL COMMISSIONERS AND THE NEW COMMISSIONERS THAT WE CAN DO IS, UH, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU, SOMETHING IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE AGENDA, DEF YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL OUT ANOTHER COMMISSIONER SECONDS.
UM, AND THEN THAT AGENDA ITEM CAN BE ADDED, LIKE WE ADDED THE CENSUS, UM, UM, DATA, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, BROKEN SPOKE.
I THINK WE, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD THOSE MM-HMM.
SO THAT IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE CAN PROCEDURALLY DO.
MAYBE I'LL SAY THIS ALOUD AND THEN WE CAN EMAIL ABOUT IT LATER.
BUT ONE, UM, THING THAT WE'D BRIEFLY SPOKEN ABOUT, UM, WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL AGES SHOWS AND JUST KIND OF IDENTIFYING OUR YOUTH IN AUSTIN AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM IN AN EVER-CHANGING CITY WITH AFFORDABILITY ISSUES AND SAFETY ISSUES.
BUT AGAIN, THAT COULD BE A WORKING GROUP, MAYBE NOT ON THE AGENDA.
IT, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A WORKING GROUP.
UH, COMING BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, LET'S WORK TOGETHER.
ANYTHING ELSE? AND, AND, AND SEE, LIKE, UH, OKAY.
UH, COULD SOMEONE, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ALL OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED AND PUT ON THE AGENDA? I'M MOTION I'M SORRY.
UM, BUT, UH, AND, AND MAYBE, UH, DAVID GRAY CAN ANSWER IF THIS IS TOO SOON TO REVISIT THE QUESTION OF, OF COLLABORATING ON FUTURE CENSUS AND HOW WE CAN USE THE CENSUS DATA.
DO WE WANNA HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THAT CONVERSATION? IN FACT, IN THE NEXT, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO COMBINE THE TWO, UM, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IF, WHAT NEW FINDINGS OR OPPORTUNITIES YOU MAY PRESENT FOR THE CURRENT CENSUS DATA AS WELL AS, UM, CITY ENGAGEMENT AND FUTURE MUSIC CENSUS SURVEYS? DAVID GRAY WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON, I CANNOT DEVELOP, I'M SORRY, DAVID.
UM, YEAH, SO I, I WILL SAY THAT CURRENTLY ESSENTIALLY EVERYBODY IN OUR MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION IS TRYING TO GET MONEY OUT THE DOOR FROM CSAP AND THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM.
WE, WE ARE HAPPY TO START GIVING SOME THOUGHT AROUND MUSIC CENSUS AND HOW TO DO THE DATA ANALYSIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN COMPLETE THAT IN A MONTH, GIVEN THE OTHER PRIORITIES AROUND GETTING THE MONEY OUT.
COUPLE OF MONTHS MAYBE I FEEL MORE CONFIDENT, BUT IF YOU ADD IT TO YOUR AGENDA AND, AND WE HAVE AN UPDATE,
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WE WILL COME BACK AND GIVE IT.I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY UP HERE TO THINK WE'RE GONNA COME BACK WITH, UH, A TROVE OF COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS WHEN RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOUR PEOPLE WHO I HAVE IN THIS DIVISION ARE TRYING TO GET MONEY OUT THROUGH THE, THE TWO GRANT PROGRAMS. WELL, HOW, HOW ABOUT THIS? COULD WE, COULD WE, LIKE, COULD WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE CENSUS COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THE CENSUS? COULD WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THAT MADE THE CENSUS, THAT HELPED MAKE THE CENSUS? CAN THEY COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THE CENSUS? THEY ALREADY DID.
WE CAN ALWAYS, UH, ASK THEM TO COME BACK AND, UH, PROVIDE IT FOR DRAFT UPDATE.
LIKE THE RAW DATA OR SOMETHING, OR WHATEVER.
SOMETHING YEAH, MAYBE CUZ THERE'S SO MANY NEW COMMISSIONERS, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL.
UM, WE CAN CHECK, UM, AND UH, REACH OUT TO DON PITTS AND SEE.
SO WHAT DO WE, DISCUSSION AND FA AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING A PRESENTATION ON THE 2022 GREATER AUSTIN MUSIC SYNTHESIS
AND, AND EVEN IF, IF, UM, CITI DOESN'T HAVE AN UPDATE, UH, FROM THERE END, THEN WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, MOVE AGENT ITEM.
AT LEAST IT STAYS TILL WE FIND, GET TO SOME LOGICAL CONCLUSION.
SO, YEAH, SO COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM YOU TO APPROVE THAT? I DID, YES.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND AND, UH, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
MOTION TO ADJOURN, BUT BEFORE, BEFORE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN, I JUST WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY THAT THE AUSTIN RECORD CONVENTION IS THIS WEEKEND AT THE PALMER EVENT CENTER.
AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN, THAT IS THE LARGEST RECORD SHOW IN THE AMERICAS.
THERE'S ONLY ONE LARGER IN SOME, SOMEWHERE IN THE NETHERLANDS,
OH, THEY SHOULD, YOU KNOW, IT BRINGS IN TOURISTS.
SO THAT'S THIS WEEKEND AT THE PALMER EVENT CENTER.
UM, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY ADMISSION ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY IS FIVE BUCKS.
UH, THAT'S THE PRICE OF A TACO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.
UH, THANKS FOR EVERYONE WHO CAME AND PARTICIPATED.
MISSISSIPPI, MISSISSIPPI RIVER HOME, MISSISSIPPI.