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[CALL TO ORDER]
JUNE 5TH, AND WE ARE AT AUSTIN CITY HALL.I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE JUNE 5TH, 2023 REGULAR MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO ORDER ON PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.
[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
WE HAVE, UH, SARAH HALL, UH, FROM AUSTIN, TEXAS, MUSICIANS.I'M SPEAKING ON ITEM EIGHT TODAY ABOUT FREE PARKING FOR MUSICIANS.
I'M THE ADVOCACY AND EDUCATION DIRECTOR FOR AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS AND HAVE ALSO WORKED AS A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN IN AND AROUND AUSTIN FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS.
PARKING HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT ISSUE FOR ME OVER THOSE SIX YEARS AND HAS BEEN RAPIDLY GETTING CONSISTENTLY WORSE AND WORSE AS THE CITY GROWS, ESPECIALLY WITH PROJECT CONNECT CONSTRUCTION WILL FURTHER SKEW PARKING IN THE I 35 CORRIDOR.
I PLAY HARP AND FINDING SOMEWHERE AFFORDABLE TO PARK WHERE I CAN LUG MY SIX FOOT TALL 90 POUND INSTRUMENT SAFELY TO A GIG HAS BECOME PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
PARKING FEES EAT INTO THE ALREADY LOW RATE.
WE REGULARLY GET PAID FOR GIGS.
I'VE HAD MULTIPLE GIGS WHERE I HAD TO PAY ONE THIRD OF WHAT I WAS BEING PAID JUST TO PARK AND DO MY JOB.
THESE PARKING SITUATIONS ARE ALSO A CONSTANT SOURCE OF STRESS AND FRANKLY, DANGER FOR MUSICIANS ACCESS TO FREE STREET PARKING DOWNTOWN WOULD COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THE GIGGING PROCESS FOR SO MANY OF US.
WE REALLY NEED ACTION ON THIS ISSUE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND I URGE YOU TO PLEASE GET THIS ITEM MOVING.
WE HAVE, UH, CHRIS CONLAN FROM AUSTIN CHRONICLE.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.IF, UH, EVERYONE HAS HAD TIME TO REVIEW THE DRAFT MINUTES FROM THE MAY 1ST, 2023 MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, PLEASE, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
[2. Live Music Fund collections update by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department.]
ITEM UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS, UPDATE BY KIM CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.CAN YOU SCROLL IT DOWN SO YOU CAN SEE? IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM A LITTLE BETTER? YEAH, THERE WAS SOMETHING WRITTEN ON THE BOTTOM, BOTTOM, AT LEAST I THOUGHT THERE WAS.
WELL, I DON'T SEE IT NOW, HUH.
UM, SO, UM, THE LIVE MUSIC COLLECTION FUND FOR APRIL WAS, OH, LET ME JUST INTRODUCE MYSELF.
KIM MCCARSON WITH MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, UH, PROGRAM MANAGER.
SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU GUYS JUST A LITTLE UPDATE ON THE COLLECTIONS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND FOR THIS YEAR.
SO, UM, AS OF APRIL, 2023, UH, THERE'S 855,000 2 61 IN THE, UM, IN THE FUND.
AND, UM, THE LIVE MUSIC COLLECTION FUND YEAR TO DATE IS 2,962,925.
CAN YOU PUT THE EXCEL ONE UP? YEAH.
AND JUST SHOW THAT FRONT TAB CUZ IT HAD THESE NUMBERS ON THERE AND I I SAVED IT AS PDF AND IT MAY HAVE SOMEHOW DROPPED OFF.
THANKS CUZ THEN IT WILL, YEAH, THERE THEY ARE AT THE BOTTOM.
SO THE NUMBERS I'M REFERRING TO ARE BROKEN OUT FOR YOU AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS, OF THE, UH, OF THE GRAPH OF THE SPREADSHEET.
YEAH, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO NUMBERS, UM, THAT WE TYPICALLY REPORT, WHICH IS THE, UM, LA THE LAST MONTH'S NUMBER, 855, 2 61, AND THEN THE YEAR TO DATE, WHICH IS THE TWO, I MEAN 2 MILLION, UH, 9 62, 925.
NOW THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE LAST YEAR'S MONEY, UM, FOR THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEING CURRENTLY SPENT ON LIVE MUSIC FUN EVENT PROGRAM.
SO THOSE FUNDS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THESE NUMBERS.
UM, SO THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS OCTOBER 1ST, CORRECT? RIGHT.
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SEVEN MONTHS MM-HMM.UH, SO AS, AS OF THE SEVEN MONTHS, SO EXTRAPOLATED THAT WOULD BE, LET'S SEE, JUST TRYING TO DO MATH.
I CAN'T DO IT IN MY, MY HEAD FAST ENOUGH, BUT, UH, A LITTLE BIT SHY OF, UM, 6 MILLION AROUND LIKE 5.25 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT EXTRAPOLATED MEAN? PR PROJECTED FOR THE YEAR.
IS, IS THAT ON THE SHEET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE PROJECTED IS? YEAH.
UM, IS THAT THE NATIONAL NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, IF ON THIS SHEET, THE LIFE MUSIC FUND PIECE IS NOT BROKEN OUT AND IT'S PART OF THE TOURISM AND PROMOTION FUND THERE, IT'S THAT LAST GRADE LINE, BUT THE WAY WE RECEIVED THE NUMBERS, UM, UH, THEY DON'T BREAK IT OUT FOR US IN A SEPARATE LINE.
UM, SO IT'S COMBINED WITH SOME OTHER THINGS, UM, THAT AREN'T FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR YOU AT THE BOTTOM THAT'S BROKEN OUT FOR YOU.
UM, AND SO IT'S UNDER THE COLUMN FOR APRIL.
SO IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE TOP COLUMN F AND YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, THAT'S YOUR APRIL NUMBER AND THEN COLUMN H THE YEAR TO DATE, AND YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THAT BOTTOM WHERE IT'S BROKEN OUT FOR YOU IS THAT 2 MILLION, ALMOST 3 MILLION NUMBER.
THAT'S BROKEN OUT FROM THAT LAST GRADE LINE.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE 29 62 9 THAT, OKAY, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S YEAR TO DATE.
I, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S LIVE MUSIC FUND ONLY YEAR TO DATE.
SO SINCE OCTOBER 1ST, UM, TO THE LATEST REPORT THAT WE HAVE.
THROUGH APRIL AND I, AND I JUST PUNCHED IN THE NUMBERS, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 5.07 MILLION PROJECTED, ASSUMING ALL THIS COMES IN AT THE SAME RATE.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? OR YOU CAN TELL ME THAT.
THE SEASONAL VARIANCE OR WHAT? WELL, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT BOTH THE ACL IN SOUTH BAY OR IN, IN THAT FIRST QUARTER, AND SO YOU CAN'T REALLY EXTRAPOLATE THE EXACT SAME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME MAJOR EVENTS THAT HAPPEN, UH, IN THE FALL AND IN THE SPRING, THAT'S THE MOST POPULAR TIME.
UM, AND SO I WOULD LOOK AT THE, THE APPROVED, WHICH IS OUR ESTIMATES FROM LAST YEAR AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
AND THAT IS YEAR, WHICH, WHICH COLUMN IS THAT NOW? D OH A D.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT BROKEN OUT ON THAT, ON THIS SHEET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, JUST SO HOW MUCH TOTAL DO WE HAVE IN THE BANK FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND RIGHT NOW? WELL, THE, THE TOTAL THAT WE, THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING, YOU KNOW, USED.
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING IT'LL ALL BE USED, BUT ANYWAY, THAT MONEY IS NOT INCLUDED.
THE MONEY THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING SPENT MM-HMM.
THESE ARE JUST ACCUMULATIONS THAT ARE SEPARATE FROM THAT MM-HMM.
UM, YEAH, SO, AND YOU KNOW, SO IF WE CAN'T REALLY ADD THAT NUMBER UNTIL ALL THAT'S DONE MM-HMM.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, IF ANY SINCE, SINCE, BUT NONE OF, SINCE NONE OF THAT'S BEEN DISPERSED YET MM-HMM.
WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER IN THE BANK ACCOUNT? THE CURRENT CASH BALANCE IS 6 MILLION 9 85 180 5.
AND THAT'S INCLUDING THESE ACTUALS THROUGH APRIL 30TH.
AND THAT'S STARTING IN, UH, THE FINAL, LIKE THE SEPTEMBER, 2019.
AND SO THAT'S CUMULATIVE OF EVERYTHING EXCEPT MINUS SOME PAYMENTS WE MADE TO VISIT AUSTIN FOR THOSE DIGITAL SPENDS.
AND THAT WILL CONTINUE AS WE MENTIONED LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED IT.
AUSTIN, WHAT WILL EXCUSE IT, UH, WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THOSE, THOSE FIGURES AGAIN? IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, NINE 6 MILLION.
SO THE CURRENT TOTAL BALANCE, UH, IN THE ENTIRE FUND IS 6 MILLION 9 85 180 5, AND THAT'S THROUGH APRIL 30TH.
YOU KNOW, CUZ THAT ONLY INCLUDES ACTUALS.
AND KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE A 3.5 MILLION AWARD BUDGET THAT IS, YOU KNOW, DEDUCT THAT AND THEN AS WELL AS THE VISIT AUSTIN MARKETING SPENDS THAT WE'VE DONE, UM, THAT WE APPROVED LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR.
SO JUST THE PREVIEW IS IF THERE'S 6.985 MILLION IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW, OF WHICH 3.5 MILLION IS SPOKEN FOR, FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND,
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THAT MEANS WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE HAVING A SURPLUS OF 3.485 MILLION BY THE END OF THE YEAR.NOW YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT THERE'D BE SOME THAT WE WOULD SPEND ON THE VISIT, AUSTIN.
SO IT'S 3.485 MILLION AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR ONCE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND HAS BEEN FULLY AWARDED.
WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE WE DECIDED THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A BUFFER LEFT IN THE FUND IN ORDER TO, IN CASE WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, CATASTROPHE, LIKE THE PANDEMIC HAPPENS.
AGAIN, WE DON'T GO DOWN TO ZERO THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, SOME MONEY IN THERE TO BOLSTER THE ACCOUNTS.
SO WE WANNA BUILD IT, BE CONSERVATIVE IN HOW MUCH MONEY WE KEEP IN THERE SO THAT WE CAN BUILD AS BIG OF A FUND AS WE CAN.
BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT FOR NEXT YEAR, FOR FY 24, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD ON TO THE 3.5 MILLION APPROVED BUDGET SO THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GONNA ENCAPSULATE THE WORK WITH VENUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.
THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT BUFFER AMOUNT IS MM-HMM.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS STOPPING BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY, TAMMY, JUST CHECKING IN WITH YOU.
HI, HOW ARE YOU?
[3. Discussion and possible action on Tiny Transit/Community Micro-mobility after presentation from Susan Engelking, Executive Director and Founder, Institute for Community MicroMobility]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON TINY TRANSIT COMMUNITY MICRO MOBILITY AFTER PRESENTATION FROM SUSAN ENGEL KING, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER INSTITUTE FOR COMMUNITY MICRO MOBILITY.UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO THE END OF THE AGENDA.
UM, SUSAN IS PRESENTING AT ANOTHER, UH, COMMISSION, I BELIEVE AT THIS, THIS POINT.
SO SHE HAD REQUESTED TO MOVE THIS OUT.
SHOULD YOU WANNA MOVE IT TO EIGHT SECOND.
I SUGGESTING TO MOVE THE ITEM TO NUMBER EIGHT A SECOND.
[4. Discussion and possible action following presentation on Live Music Fund application process by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department.]
NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING PRESENTATION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION PROCESS BY CHA, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.ERICA CHANLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
HOPE YOU'RE DOING WELL TONIGHT.
UH, JUST REAL QUICK, I ALSO WANNA ADD TO THE DISCUSSION ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND BUDGET.
THERE'S A 3.5 MILLION AWARD BUDGET, BUT ALSO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, ADMINISTRATION BUDGET THAT GOES TO THE LONG CENTER.
SO THAT'S 4.1 THAT WAS APPROVED FOR LAST YEAR, AND SO THAT WILL BE THE SAME FOR NEXT YEAR, THAT IT'S AN AWARD BUDGET PLUS ADMIN FEES.
UM, AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION TONIGHT YET BECAUSE WE'RE STILL COLLECTING DATA, UM, AND CORRECTING DATA AND GETTING IT ALL UP TO SPEED SO THAT FOR JULY WE WILL PROVIDE YOU GUYS A DETAILED PRESENTATION OF APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING DEMOGRAPHICS, WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT WITH ANY NAMES OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST, UH, KIND OF ALL THE INFORMATION WE CAN PULL TOGETHER INTO A DASHBOARD FOR YOU.
I CAN SAY THAT, UH, WE HAVE AROUND 655 APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED, UH, TO THE FUND.
UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH A LONG CENTER NOW.
THEY ARE, UH, READY AND WORKING TO KIND OF GET THE PROCESS GOING ON EVALUATION.
SO WE'RE SETTING UP ALL THE SYSTEMS RIGHT NOW TO MAKE THAT EVALUATION AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT EVERY APPLICANT IS FAIR FAIRLY EVALUATED THAT ALL OF THEIR DOCUMENTATION'S IN PLACE SO THAT EVERYONE CAN BE FAIRLY EVALUATED, UH, ACCORDING TO THE NEXT PERSON.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION ITEMS ON THE TOPIC? YEAH, HOW'S IT GOING,
YEAH, SO WE ARE JUST, UH, GETTING THE LONG CENTER UP TO SPEED AND, UH, SO, SO THAT WE CAN START THE EVALUATION PROCESS.
AND, UH, WE HAD ROBUST, YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS PRESENTED, WHICH IS EXCITING.
I THINK THE INTENT OF WHERE WE WERE HOPING TO GO IN TERMS OF PI WAS ACCOMPLISHED.
SO WE WILL BE VERY EXCITED TO SEE, UM, WHAT COMES OUT OF THIS.
UH, THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE, OF COURSE, TO WORK WITH THE LONG CENTER ON OUR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROVIDED TO AWARDEES AROUND MENTORSHIP.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING, THOSE ARE THE NEXT STEPS WE'RE WORKING ALONG WITH EVALUATION.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONTRACTING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR SO PEOPLE CAN START THEIR PROJECTS.
UH, WE ASK THAT PROJECTS STARTED IN SEPTEMBER, CORRECT? YES, SEPTEMBER, 2023.
SO YOU CAN EXPECT THE PROJECTS THAT, UH, RECEIVE FUNDS WILL HAPPEN BETWEEN SEPTEMBER, 2023
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AND AUGUST, 2024.AND CAN, WHEN YOU COME BACK FOR THE, WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION MM-HMM.
SO IT WILL BE A LOT OF IT ON THE INTAKE QUESTIONS FOR PORTAL WITH WHICH ARE DEMOGRAPHIC AND JUST QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR PEOPLE'S, YOU KNOW, SITUATION, HOW THEY'RE DOING ECONOMICALLY.
THAT WAS ALL COLLECTED FOR DATA RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES, WHICH WILL INFORM THIS DASHBOARD.
SO NOT EVERYBODY FILLED IT OUT.
SOME, UH, YOU FILLED OUT PREFER NOT TO ANSWER, WHICH IS FINE, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE RACIAL MAKEUP, YOU KNOW, L G B T Q I A STATUS OR LIKE DISABILITY STATUS AS WELL AS ARE THEY A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN OR AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER.
UH, AND JUST EVERYTHING THAT ANYONE WHO ANSWERED, WE CAN SAY OUT OF THE GROUP HOW MANY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION, AND THIS IS WHO, HOW THEY ANSWERED AND WHO THEY WERE AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE LIKE.
SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY, UM, ROBUST ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, SO THAT'S AWESOME.
WHAT ABOUT THE WILL, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO TELL US LIKE THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT PEOPLE, OR THE TYPES OF PROJECTS MM-HMM.
AND SO IN THE, IN THE APPLICATION PORTAL, THAT WAS, UM, AND I'M NOT, SO I DIDN'T APPLY, UH, SO I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR.
I'VE SEEN SOME, UH, SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE SENT ME SOME SCREENSHOTS ABOUT HOW IT WORKED.
AND PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THOSE QUESTIONS WERE NOT PART OF THE GRANT.
THEY WERE FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES.
SO, UM, SO IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT YOURSELF, LIKE HOW MANY YEARS YOU'VE BEEN IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, WHEN DID YOU START, WHAT WAS YOUR ANNUAL REVENUE LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST ASKING ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC SITUATION, NONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS LIKE AROUND REVENUE OR HOW OLD YOU ARE OR ANY OF THAT, OR DID YOU GO TO COLLEGE? NONE OF THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE GRANT.
IT'S JUST, WE'RE JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT DATA POINT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL APPLICANTS.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS MM-HMM.
DOES, HAS ANYBODY ELSE IN THE DIAS OR OR TAMMY ON REMOTE HAD ANY ANECDOTAL THINGS FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW, HOW THE APPLICATION PROCESS HAS GONE? UH, SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK, I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS THE SAME KIND OF ECHO CHAMBER THAT YOU, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, ERICA AND, AND, UM, IT WAS, UH, UH, I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS, I, I DID APPLY FULL DISCLOSURE, I DID APPLY FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, SO NO ONE COME AT ME WITH A WIFFLE BAT.
UM, BUT I, UM, UM, DOING THE, THE, THE JUST THE SINGLE HOUSEHOLD THING OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT SEEMED TO JUST ALLEVIATE A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND STRESS AND THAT, THAT WAS, UH, UNFORTUNATE, YOU KNOW, WE WISH THAT IT WAS JUST ONE VERSION FOR EVERYBODY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STRIVING TO IS THAT EVERYONE'S GETTING THE EXACT SAME QUESTIONS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE'RE COLLECTING CONSISTENTLY THE EXACT SAME DATA FOR RESEARCH MM-HMM.
UH, AND SO THAT'S PART OF, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS KIND OF A BARRIER CUZ A LOT OF FOLKS WEREN'T LIKE, WHY AM I BEING ASKED THIS? AND IT WASN'T QUITE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT PART OF THE GRANT, THIS IS JUST, WE WANT INFORMATION ABOUT YOU.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING NOW INTO REFINING THAT PROCESS, MAKING IT EASIER FOR THE APPLICANTS TO GET THROUGH IT.
UM, AND SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS INFORMATION IS NOT BEING COUNTED AGAINST YOU WHATSOEVER.
IT'S JUST WE WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, A MINI MUSIC CENSUS EVERY TIME WE RUN ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS TO ASK ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS.
UM, UM, WE, UH, HAVE VENUES COMING IN NEXT YEAR.
UM, SO, UH, HOW IS THAT ENGAGEMENT? HOW IS EDD THINKING THROUGH THAT ENGAGEMENT? YEAH, BECAUSE, SO WORKING WITH SHELBY OVER HERE, UH, WE HAVE COMPILED THE VENUE SUMMIT SURVEY.
IT WILL CONSIST OF THREE SECTIONS.
THE FIRST SECTION AROUND THE STRATEGIC PLANS OF THE VENUES, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WENT THROUGH OUR TRAINING FOR THE VENUE PRESERVATION FUND.
UM, WE WANNA HEAR WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS EQUITY FOR YOUR VENUE AND ASKING LOTS OF QUESTIONS THERE.
AND THEN WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS AROUND LIVE
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MUSIC, FUN, WHAT KIND OF, WHAT WOULD BE CONVENIENT? WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH A GRANT THAT JUST HAPPENED? OR WOULD YOU WANNA SEE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SYSTEM FOR VENUES THAT'S MORE, THAT'S SIMPLE, MORE SIMPLE THAN A GRANT? UM, AND THEN THE THIRD SECTION IS, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM ED D YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPES OF SERVICES DO YOU NEED FROM US TO MAKE YOUR LIVES EASIER, UH, RUNNING YOUR BUSINESSES IN AUSTIN.SO THAT SURVEY IS, I THINK WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET IT OUT BY FRIDAY.
WE'RE JUST FIXING SOME LIKE, UM, LOGIC STUFF IN THE BACKGROUND SO THAT THE ANSWERS ARE JUST EASY TO READ.
AND THEN WE'LL DO A VENUE SUMMIT, A VIRTUAL SUMMIT THROUGH ZOOM, AND THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE END OF JULY.
WE WANNA HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS IN THE SURVEY.
AND THEN THE VENUE, THE VIRTUAL SUMMIT IN JULY WILL GO THROUGH AND, AND PROVIDE THE ANSWERS, A REPORT ON HOW THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND, THIS IS WHAT WE ANSWERED.
AND THEN TO JUST, WE'LL GO THROUGH AND SET UP A COUPLE ENGAGEMENTS THAT WILL BE VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON, UH, TO BRING THOSE VENUES BACK TOGETHER TO DISCUSS MORE IN DEPTH.
LIKE WHAT DO YOU WANNA SEE IN TERMS OF THE FY 24, UH, PROGRAM FOR VENUES THAT INCLUDES VENUES.
IT COULD BE THAT THEY'RE JUST INCLUDED AS AN ELIGIBLE GROUP FOR OUR CURRENT PROGRAM AND MORE MONEY'S ADDED TO IT.
OR THERE'S A SECOND PROGRAM THAT'S JUST FOR VENUES AND IT'S A, SOMETHING ELSE THAT WORKS FOR VENUES.
UH, IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU SEE WITH CULTURAL ARTS HAVING THREE SEPARATE TYPES OF PROGRAMS, THAT'S NO PROBLEM TO DO.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IT, IT MIGHT JUST ALSO MAKE SENSE IF FROM A PORTAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU JUST SELECT WHAT KIND OF APPLICANT YOU ARE AND YOU ARE JUST ROUTED TO DIFFERENT, UH, EXACTLY.
INTO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF THE RELEVANT APPLICATION.
WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
AND UH, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK, UM, VERY HAPPY THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE A LIVE MUSIC FUND OUT AND, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL MUSIC.
SO I THINK THAT, UH, THAT IS FANTASTIC.
UM, SO, UH, REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A HUGE WIN FOR, UH, ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY.
UM, ONE OF THE, OF COURSE ALL OF US IN OUR OWN OWN WAY HAVE THREE, THEIR THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WORK FOR OR AS INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN GETTING, UH, FEEDBACK FROM MM-HMM.
AND, UH, UM, ONE OF, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS, UH, THAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE THROUGH, UM, THIS, THIS GRANT APPLICATION WAS BROUGHT INTO USERS.
UH, SO WHEN MAYOR ADLER, WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN, UM, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THIS HOT TAXES BASED HOT FUNDS BASICALLY TO COMMERCIAL MUSIC, UM, HEAVILY SPOKE AND FOCUSED ON THE ECOSYSTEM AND, AND THE, THIS IDEA OF BUILDING THE ECOSYSTEM CAME OUT OF, UH, HIS OMNIBUS RESOLUTION.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, UH, ED D AND US AS A COMMISSION COLLECTIVELY WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME GAPS TO FILL BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE APPLICATION LOOKS VERY FOCUSED STILL ON LIVE PERFORMANCES.
THE, THE, THE ROUTE IT TAKES US THROUGH, THROUGH THE QUESTIONS ASKING ABOUT AUDIENCES, ASKING ABOUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, DATE AND VENUE.
IT STILL SEEMS VERY, UM, LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCE CENTRIC.
AND EVEN THOUGH RECORDING AND OTHER PROJECTS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED AT A COUPLE OF PLACES, IT FEELS LIKE, UM, IT DIDN'T QUITE ROUTE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SHOW PEOPLE THE PATH TO GET TO THE END WITH, UH MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S ONE OF THE FEEDBACKS THAT I THINK WE GOT HEAVILY AND ESPECIALLY FROM, UM, ARTISTS OF COLOR AND SPECIFIC GENRES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME GENRES LIKE, UH, AND THIS IS NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THIS BROADLY, APPLYING THIS TO EVERYBODY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HIPHOP AND SOME LATIN, UH, UH, GENRES, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE RECORDING, UH, AND, UH, EITHER, UH, PLAYING SOME OF THE VENUES OR SKIPPING OUT VENUES ALTOGETHER AND, AND KIND OF HAVE A DIFFERENT PATH TO BUILDING A MUSIC CAREER.
UM, AND, AND SO, AND, AND THERE ARE ARTISTS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE STILL BUILDING ACTIVE CAREERS EITHER THROUGH OR BY NOT MM-HMM.
SO, AND I THINK WE, A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT WAS THAT PEOPLE FELT COMPELLED EITHER TO CHANGE THEIR APPLICATION TO, UH, UH, A LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCE OR THEY DROPPED OUT COMPLETELY MM-HMM.
SO I THINK THAT IS ONE THING, UM, UH, THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE, UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY, UH, I THINK WORK TOGETHER TO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST UPDATE THE QUESTIONS AND THE WAY THEY PRESENTED.
WE TRY TO STRIKE ANY WORD OF EVENT AND PUT IN PROJECT THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION BECAUSE JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE AGREEMENT OF WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO WITH HOT FUNDS IS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE IS THE LO WHERE'S THE LOCATION? IT
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DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CONFIRMED.AND YOU SAY IT WILL BE A STUDIO OF SOME SORT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE, AND THAT'S FINE.
UM, BUT WE DO JUST NEED TO TRACK THAT FOR HOT, YOU KNOW, UH, PURPOSES.
AND THEN OF COURSE, EVERYTHING STILL HAS TO BE PROMOTED TO TOURISTS, UH, BECAUSE THESE ARE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES, WHICH IS WHY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN CONFUSING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ON THE MUSIC SIDE, YOU CAN PROMOTE A NEW RECORD, A NEW PRESSING, A NEW STUDIO TIME, A NEW VIDEO.
THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT WAYS TO PROMOTE MUSIC.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LIVE EVENT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE PUSHING THIS STILL THE MARKETING PLANS, HOW ARE YOU PUSHING OUT THIS ACTIVITY, THIS PROJECT TO TOURISTS SO THAT WE STAY IN LINE WITH THE PRO, WITH THE WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR HOT.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE HAPPY JUST TO CONTINUE THAT EDUCATION WITH OUR APPLICANTS SO THEY UNDERSTAND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LIVE EVENT, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN PRE BE PROMOTED TO YOUR AUDIENCE AND TO YOUR FAN BASE.
I THINK, I THINK WE ARE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.
BUT I, I REALLY THOUGHT THAT, THAT THE SPIRIT OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY PROVIDING THAT OPPORTUNITY DIDN'T QUITE COME THROUGH.
UM, IT, FOR LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCES, IT LOOKED VERY, VERY ALLEGED.
YOU KNOW, YOU COULD EASILY, YOU KNOW, GO, WELL, WE CAN CHANGE THE NAME, TAKE OUT LIVE, YOU KNOW, EVENTS.
WE COULD, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL NAME, AND THAT WE COULDN'T CHANGE IT HALFWAY THROUGH OVER THE YEAR.
BUT CAN, WE'RE, WE HAVE COLLECTED FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS, FROM OUR APPLICANTS, AND JUST FROM US AS WE GO OF LEARNING OF HOW TO DO IT BETTER.
AND SO ONE OF THOSE THINGS CERTAINLY CAN BE FOR FY 24 IS REBRANDED SLIGHTLY, SO THAT'S, SO THAT IT'S MORE INVITING.
I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK INTO THAT MM-HMM.
I, I THINK THIS IS MAYBE HOWEVER, MAYBE AN AND OR A, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
BUT, UH, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS, UH, UH, ONE OF SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT WAS ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE, WHERE IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE, UM, PEOPLE THAT, THAT, THAT WERE ARTISTS THAT WERE APPLYING FOR THE GRANT, BUT THEN THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS CATERED TO INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, UM, UM, ARTISTS, YOU KNOW, THE THEMSELVES.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE IS, I MEAN, IT'S THE FIRST ROUND OF IT AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT, I GUESS.
AND I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB MM-HMM.
UH, I THINK THE, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, COMES AT A PLAY WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UNDER A TEXAS LAW, LOCAL HOT REVENUE CAN BE ONLY BE USED, UH, TO DIRECTLY PROMOTE TOURISM AND THE CONVENTION HOTEL INDUSTRY.
UH, THIS MEANS THAT, UH, THOSE PROCEEDS SHOULD BE SPENT ON PROJECTS OR EVENTS THAT DIRECTLY RESULT IN VISITORS OR ATTENDEES STAYING OVERNIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY, GENERATING MORE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX MM-HMM.
SO, UM, I, I THINK THAT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK AND THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH VENUES COMING INTO THE MIX AND IT'S ADDING THESE VENUES TO THE TABLE, THAT THERE'S GONNA BE LESS OF A CUT FOR BASICALLY ALL OF THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE INVOLVED HERE.
AND, UM, SPEAKING AS AN ARTIST, AND I HAVEN'T REALLY, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO ANYONE ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, BUT YOU KNOW, ME BEING A RECORDING ARTIST MYSELF, YOU KNOW, THAT, I MEAN, I, I'VE GONE TO THE STUDIO AND SPENT THOUSANDS AND THOUSAND, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, ON A PROJECT THAT NO ONE'S EVER GONNA LISTEN TO.
AND THAT DIDN'T DIRECTLY RESULT IN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING OUT TO, YOU KNOW, SEEING THE SHOW OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
AND SO I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY, IF WE'RE GONNA ADD VENUES TO THE MIX, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW WE DO THIS THE NEXT TIME AROUND.
AND THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF HEAVY SPIRITED CONVERSATION AROUND THIS, I'M SURE.
BUT WE NEED TO, I THINK ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IN THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING SPENT, THAT WE'RE BRINGING PEOPLE HERE, WHICH MEANS THAT MM-HMM.
MAYBE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, LIKE GOING INTO THE STUDIO TO PROMOTE THAT ALBUM THAT YOU ALREADY MADE, AND THEN THAT'S BRINGING PEOPLE HERE.
BUT I'M, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED TO PROMOTE LIVE MUSIC, WHICH IS TO BRING PEOPLE HERE TO GO AND SEE THAT LIVE MUSIC.
WELL, LOOK AT THE VISIT AUSTIN SPIN THAT WE'VE DONE ON THE DIGITAL CAMPAIGNS, WHICH ARE NATIONAL CAMPAIGNS.
SOMETIMES IT'S JUST PROMOTING A ARTIST TAKEOVER, AND AN ARTIST TAKES OVER THE VISIT AUSTIN INSTAGRAM
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FOR A DAY, AND THEY SHOW YOU AROUND AUSTIN AND THEY DO THINGS, AND THIS IS MY MUSIC.THIS IS WHAT I'M WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY LIKE A CONCRETE EVENT, THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CONCRETE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS GOING TO DRAW SOMEONE TO A HOTEL ROOM THAT SECOND.
BUT IT IS PROMOTING AUSTIN AS A VISITOR DESTINATION IS PROMOTING AUSTIN TO POTENTIAL MEETINGS AND CONVENTIONS THAT THIS PLACE IS WHERE WE WANNA BE.
SO THAT IS CONSIDERED STILL PROMOTING, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, A CULTURAL COMPONENT OF AUSTIN, UH, OUTSIDE OF TEXAS, OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN TO BRING TOURISTS HERE.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT, WHEN THIS IS PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION OF OUR AWARDEES AND OUR APPLICANTS OF WHY DO I NEED TO DO A MARKETING BUDGET FOR THIS WHEN I'M JUST DOING A STUDIO ALBUM? WELL, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN PROMOTE THAT AS AN ARTIST TO, HEY, I'M GOING INTO THE STUDIO, UH, STUDIO, EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR INSTAGRAM CALL OUT, UH, AND STAY TUNED, YOU KNOW, NEXT MONTH FOR THE, THE FIRST SINGLE OR SOMETHING BIG PROMOTION THAT CAN BE PROMOTED AT, UH, TO POTENTIAL TOURISTS.
UH, IT'S ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT YOUR FAN BASE THAT YOU'RE GROWING ACROSS US, AND THEN IN THE WORLD AS POTENTIAL TOURIST AUSTIN.
I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS, UH, WHAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING, UH, NAGA ABOUT CHANGING THE NAME OF THE FUND, AND I WOULD BE VERY STRONGLY AGAINST THAT.
JUST THE PROGRAM, NOT THE FUND OF THE PROGRAM.
BECAUSE, UH, THE CITY IS BRANDED AS THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD AND CALLING IT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS COMPLETELY ON BRAND.
AND WE'VE HAD VERY LITTLE FLACK FROM PEOPLE SAYING, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? IF WE START, IF WE START HOW WE ADMINISTER IT IS ONE THING, BUT WHAT WE CALL IT, I THINK WE NEED TO STICK WITH THE BRAND.
THE FUND WILL ALWAYS BE CALLED LIVE MUSIC FUND.
NO, THAT IS THE NAME OF THE FUND.
JUST LIKE IT'S THE CULTURAL ARTS FUND OR THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION FUND.
THE PROGRAMS CAN BE, YOU COULD RIFF ON LIVE MUSIC FUND DIFFERENT WAYS, UM, ON THE BRANDING OF THE PROGRAM, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE USING TO PROMOTE A PARTICULAR YEAR TO A PARTICULAR APPLICANT.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON THAT.
BUT YEAH, THE ACTUAL NAME OF THE FUND CANNOT CHANGE.
UM, I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS, UH, BUT JUST VERY QUICKLY, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, UH, I ALSO, NOT SUGGESTING, I WAS JUST SAYING MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE ANYBODY DECIDED AGAINST IT EARLIER.
SO I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, UH, JERMAINE TO THE USES BEYOND, UH, THE, THE LIVE EVENT PART OF IT.
UH, SO ANECDOTALLY, OR FROM THE COMMUNITY, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT WAS THAT, THAT PEOPLE THAT DID WANNA DO AN ALBUM OR A VIDEO PRODUCTION PROJECT, THEY WEREN'T DETERRED BY THE NAME OF IT, BUT ONCE THEY GOT INTO THE APPLICATION MM-HMM.
AND SOME OF THOSE FOLKS JUMPED BACK OUT CUZ THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD TO, IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT THERE WAS A, A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT, OH, I HAVE TO TIE THIS TO AN EVENT MM-HMM.
NO, IT COULD BE AN INDEPENDENT PROJECT.
IT JUST TIE IT TO A PROMOTION PLAN.
AND SO TO ME, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE CERTAIN GENRES WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A, HASN'T BEEN A TON OF LIVE PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITY MM-HMM.
SO TAKE HIP HOP ARTIST FROM AUSTIN QUINN N FN, UM, WHO HAS, YOU KNOW, HE HAS 1.5 MILLION MM-HMM.
BUT I DO SEE SOMEBODY LIKE THAT WHO IS MAKING MUSIC VIDEOS AND DOING AUDIO PRODUCTION AS AN AMBASSADOR TO AUSTIN.
AND, AND, UH, SO HE WILL FINALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY LIVE IN FRONT OF A REALLY BIG AUDIENCE AT, AT ACL.
AND I FEEL LIKE, LIKE THIS CAN, THINGS CAN WORK THE OPPOSITE WAY.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE LIVE PERFORMANCE FIRST TO DRAW PEOPLE IN AND MM-HMM.
LIKE THE ALBUM CAN BE THE AMBASSADOR AND BRING IN A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MAYBE BEFORE WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT OF AUSTIN AS THEIR KIND OF TOWN NECESSARILY.
UM, SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH VALUE IN, IN THE BROADENED USES FOR, I I THINK HIS NA GAAL WAS SAYING LIKE, HIP HOP AND CERTAIN LATIN GENRES, UH, LATIN POP GENRES, UM, IN TERMS OF THESE PROJECTS WHERE THEY'RE DIGITAL PROJECTS WHERE THEY'RE RE THEY'RE REACHING A YOUNG AUDIENCE THAT LOVES TO TRAVEL MM-HMM.
SO IT'S LIKE, OH YEAH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE AUSTIN ISN'T JUST, UM, LIKE AN AMERICANA TOWN, LIKE MAYBE I'LL GO TRAVEL THERE.
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THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AWARDEES WILL BE A MARKETING MARK THAT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE, EVEN IF THEY'RE PROMOTING THEIR NEW RECORD OR THEIR NEW VIDEO OR THE WHATEVER, A NEW LIKE, UH, VINYL PRESSING.AND IT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND PRESENTS, YOU KNOW, EVERY MUSIC INDUSTRY PERSON IS USED TO A MARKETING SPONSORSHIP THAT HAS A REQUIRED THAT, HEY, YOU NEED TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF THE NAME.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S LIKE, IT COULD BE A, A LIQUOR SPONSOR OR A COMPANY SPONSOR THAT SAYS SO AND SO PRESENTS THAT WE WILL REQUIRE THAT SAME THING, UH, AS LIKE ANYTIME THE PROJECT'S BEING PROMOTED, WE WANNA SEE THAT MARKER.
UH, SO THAT, AGAIN, THAT IN ITSELF IS A PROMOTION, A TOURIST PROMOTION, BUT ALSO TYING BACK THE SUPPORT TO THE PRO THE PROGRAM COMING OUT OF AUSTIN.
UH, SO YEAH, JUST ON THAT NOTE OF THE DA DA THE DATA AND THE TYPES OF PROJECTS I, I WOULD IF POSSIBLE, AND I HOPE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO PRESENT INFORMATION, THEN WHEN YOU COME BACK, IF WE COULD HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS MM-HMM.
I WOULD LOVE TO BECAUSE WE HAD SEVERAL APPLICATIONS THAT WERE NOT SUBMITTED THAT WERE NOT COMPLETED.
AND SO WE'LL DO A DEEP DIVE TOO OF WHY, WHAT MADE YOU STOP MM-HMM.
WHY DID YOU STOP THE APPLICATION? YEAH.
AND I MEAN THE UNDER, I DO WANT THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN BETA ON THIS MM-HMM.
WE WANT ALL THE BEST, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT DESERVE THIS, YOU KNOW, WANT TO DO THE WORK TO GET THIS GRANT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THEM TO HAVE IT, SO WE WANNA FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BARRIERS ARE.
AND ALSO THEY CAN APPLY FOR ELEVATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS FUNDING PROGRAM, WHICH IS NOW OPEN TO APPLICATIONS THROUGH JUNE 27TH.
UM, NOT EVERY PROJECT WILL QUALIFY ACCORDING TO THEIR GUIDELINES, TOTALLY DIFFERENT GUIDELINES.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO, FOR YOU GUYS TO REMIND ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS, ALL PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, GO CHECK OUT THE GUIDELINES, UH, AND SEE IF THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL PROGRAM YOU CAN APPLY FOR.
DON'T APPLY FOR THE SAME THING YOU APPLIED FOR FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND.
CUZ THAT'S NOT ALLOWED, WE DON'T DOUBLE DIP INTO THE SAME EXPENSES MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S A PRO, THAT'S PROJECT BASED, THAT PARTICULAR GRANT.
AND THOSE ARE HIGHER GRANT CEILINGS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A PROGRAM THAT, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL FUNDING PROGRAM WITH THE ARTS HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND THE COLLECTIONS ARE LARGER.
AND SO WE DEFINITELY WANNA, UH, YOU KNOW, PUSH PEOPLE INTO ELEVATE.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND THAT THERE ISN'T JUST ONE WAY TO GET SUPPORT FROM THE CITY.
UM, AND THEN AS IN TERMS OF LIKE THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF, OF THE GRANT ITSELF, THINGS THAT JUST NEED TO BE FIXED, DO YOU, WERE THERE THINGS THAT YOU PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVE? WE HAVE A LIST ON A LIST.
WE HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF JUST TECH, UH, BUGS THAT WILL WORK THROUGH SO THAT, THAT'S RESOLVED AND, UH, DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, COME UP FOR FUTURE APPLICANTS.
UM, BUT WE SEE THOSE AS CORRECTIONS, UH, TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO HA TAKE PLACE CUZ IT CAN ACT AS A BARRIER WHEN YOU'RE HAVING GLITCHES AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN WONDER, OH, WHAT DID I DO? I MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG.
I'M NOT APPLYING WHEN IT'S NOT THAT IT WAS JUST A, A GLITCH WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
SO WE'RE WORKING NOW OF DIAGNOSING WHAT THAT WAS AND HOW TO FIX IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND IF WE CAN'T FIX IT, GIVE LIKE A FIX TO THE APPLICANT TO BE LIKE, OKAY, HERE'S YOUR WORKAROUND UN UNTIL WE CAN'T GET IT FIXED.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.
I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
UM, SO WHEN WILL PEOPLE START TO BE NOTIFIED IF, SO WE HAVE TO GET THE LONG CENTER ON BOARD, GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THEM.
I MEAN, WE WILL HAVE TIME FOR THE FIRST AWARD PAYMENTS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER OBVIOUSLY.
SO I THINK OVER THE SUMMER, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET THROUGH, UH, AWARD NOTIFICATIONS FIRST AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE AGREEMENT PROCESS WITH THE LONG CENTER OF CREATING THE AGREEMENTS AND GETTING THE FIRST PAYMENTS OUT.
SO THAT PROCESS IS STARTING NOW.
UH, AND WE'LL GO AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND BY JULY WITH OUR, LIKE I SAID, WITH OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE DATA FOR YOU AND, UM, EXPECTATION OF TIMELINE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
UH, THANKS ALSO FOR ASKING ABOUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS BECAUSE WE DID, WE DID GET SOME CALLS, UH, AROUND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NOT BEING TO MAKE LIKE SIMPLE UPDATES AND STUFF FOR DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND WHATNOT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SPENDING TIME ON SEEING UNCOMPLETE INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS AND, AND WHY THEY MIGHT HAVE DROPPED OFF.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'LL BE VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, YEAH, IT'S JUST AMAZING WHAT YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS ACCOMPLISHED IN THIS BETA, UM, PHASE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.
I, UM, AT THE SAME TIME, IT SEEMS THAT FOR THE MUSICIANS AND THE PROMOTERS THAT APPLIED THAT, THAT WAS QUITE
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A FEAT AND QUITE AN EXERCISE TO COME UP WITH THESE PROPOSALS AND REALLY THINK THROUGH THEIR PROJECTS.AND IN THE SPIRIT OF HELPING OUR COMMUNITY, I WONDER FOR THOSE WHO DON'T RECEIVE THE GRANT OR EN ENCOURAGED TO APPLY AGAIN OR FOR THOSE MM-HMM.
LIKE, MAYBE THEY CAN TAKE THAT TIME THAT THEY SPENT ON THIS AND USE IT.
BECAUSE I, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THE LIVE MUSIC COMPARED TO DIFFERENT ART, OTHER ART FORMS, WHETHER IT'S WRITERS OR FILMMAKERS, LIKE THEY'VE KIND OF CRACKED THE CODE WITH LIKE GRANT WRITING MM-HMM.
AND SO MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THE YEAH.
JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A FOR-PROFIT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE.
AND THAT'S THE CASE MORE AND MORE NOW WITH FOUNDATIONS GOVERNMENT SUPPORT THAN EVER BEFORE.
AND I THINK THE PANDEMIC REALLY HELPED BRING THAT INTO LASER FOCUS.
IT'S JUST A TAX, IT'S A DEBT, IT'S A DEBT ISSUE.
A LOT OF TIMES FOR, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE, IT SHOULD NOT BE A LOSS LEADER.
THIS IS NOT ART FOR ART'S SAKE.
THAT SHOULD NOT NEVER BE A THOUGHT PROCESS.
IT NEEDS TO BE HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS A BUSINESS DECISION.
WE'RE PROVIDING LOTS OF TRAINING AND SUPPORT.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING INTO OTHER WORKFORCE TRAINING POSSIBILITIES FOR OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UH, SO THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAINING THAT LEAD TO HIGHER PAYING JOBS AND GIGS.
SO IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL IN VAIN IF THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, GET, YOU KNOW, ARE AWARDED THIS TIME, THEY CAN ABSOLUTELY APPLY AGAIN MM-HMM.
AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL CONSERVE THEM WELL FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED AND, AND IF ONCE WE GET THE TECH BUGS OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT WE CAN DO MORE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON THE GUIDELINES, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD'VE LOVED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON, WHICH WAS WE HAD SEVERAL APPLICANTS THAT WERE LIKE, WELL, THIS DOESN'T FIT ME.
THE, I DON'T, I FEEL GUILTY APPLYING FOR THIS TOO.
LIKE, TALKING THEM THROUGH IT OF LIKE, WE CAN ALL CREATE A PIE EVENT, WE CAN ALL BE, CREATE AN EQUITABLE EVENT IN AUSTIN.
AND SO THOSE PEOPLE WOULD TALK THROUGH IT AND THEN GET EXCITED AND COME BACK EVERY TWO DAYS.
LIKE, WELL WHAT ABOUT THIS? I HAVE THIS IDEA AND I HAVE NEVER TALKED TO THIS PERSON.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO THAT, AND AH, I'M GETTING EXCITED.
AND SO IT LED TO EXCITEMENT, UM, AT FIRST CONSTERNATION, BUT THEN EVENTUALLY EXCITEMENT FOR SOMETHING NEW AND DIFFERENT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO TAKE CARE OF THE RISK FOR THEM IN A WAY.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, RIGHT HERE, TAMMY FOR COMMENTS.
I'M CURIOUS, ONCE THE AWARDS ARE, THE GRANTS ARE, ARE GIVEN OUT, HOW, IF, IF A BAND IS, UM, YOU KNOW, GRANTED THAT AWARD, HOW IS THE MONEY AS ACTUALLY DISTRIBUTED MM-HMM.
SO IT WOULD BE TO WHOEVER THE APPLICANT WAS.
AND SO THEY WILL END UP BEING THE VENDOR BASICALLY THAT THE LONG CENTER WILL SET UP PAYMENT TWO, EVERYONE WILL GET THE 50% OF THEIR AWARD UP FRONT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY CONFIRMATIONS BECAUSE WE KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S CATCH 22, YOU GOTTA HAVE MONEY TO PUT A DEPOSIT DOWN OR ON A STUDIO, TIME ON A VENUE PUT HOLDS DOWN.
SO, UH, WE WILL GIVE YOU 50% UPFRONT TO KIND OF MAKE ALL THOSE INITIAL INVESTMENTS AND START GETTING YOUR CONFIRMATIONS IN PLACE.
AND THEN YOU CAN, EVEN THE NEXT WEEK YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, GREAT, I JUST PAID THAT 50% OFF TO ALL MY DEPOSITS NEXT WEEK.
AND YOU JUST LIST OUT THE WHAT YOU NEED.
UH, AND SO YOU CAN DO THAT UNTIL 10%, UH, 10 PERCENT'S HELD BACK FOR THE FINAL REPORT.
COMMISSIONER LEVINS, UH, MR. GLENN.
IS, IS, IS THERE, UM, WHEN THE AWARDEES ARE AWARDED, IS THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE KIND OF THING? OR IS IT THE THE DEMOGRAPHICS WILL BE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS WILL BE, WE DON'T PUT THE ACTUAL NAMES, THE INDIVIDUAL NAMES,
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UH, UH, WITH THE DATA DASHBOARDS.IT'S JUST TOO UNWIELDING, YOU KNOW.
UH, AND SO YEAH, IT WILL JUST BE THE DEMOGRAPHICS, WHO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHICALLY WHO WERE THEY, PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN, A PROMOTER, AND WHAT KIND OF STUFF DID THEY APPLY FOR? OKAY, GREAT.
UM, I GUESS IT IS NOT A QUESTION, IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE OF A STATEMENT AND I JU I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS AS, AS THE GUY THAT'S KIND OF PLANTING HIS FLAG HERE.
UM, AND, AND, AND SPEAKING FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO, UM, MAIN STAKEHOLDERS IN THE, IN THE ECOSYSTEM THAT IS MUSIC AND THAT IS VENUES, AND THAT IS MUSICIANS.
AND IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT AND HARD AND VERY CHALLENGING.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN, IN, IN TODAY'S AGE WHEN WE ARE EXPECTED TO JUST CONTINUOUSLY COME UP WITH NEW MATERIAL AND, AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS HERE AND THERE.
UM, WHEN AN ARTIST HAS TO MAKE AN ALBUM OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS, IT'S VERY, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY IS IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DO, BUT IT'S, IT, IT, IT, IT IS SUPER EXPENSIVE, BUT GETTING TO THE END OF THAT PROCESS IS WHEN IS IS WHEN THIS THING THAT THAT THAT WE'VE BEEN IN THE STUDIO DOING FOR A LONG TIME ACTUALLY NEEDS THE SUSTAINABILITY TO, TO, TO, TO MOVE THAT PROJECT OR THAT THING FORWARD.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WHEN YOU HAVE A RELEASE SHOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VENUE, HAVE A RELEASE SHOW.
I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A VENUE, BUT IT'S, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A BAND TO PAY FOR.
THERE'S, UH, LIGHTS, SOUND, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
A LOT OF THESE VENUES ARE UNION NOWADAYS.
UM, WE HAVE TICKETMASTER THAT, THAT IS KIND OF COMING IN HERE AND, AND, AND, AND TAKING OVER SOME OF THE TICKET BUYING AND SOME OF THESE, UH, SOME OF THE VENUES THAT ARE MAKING TICKET PRICES ACTUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE.
AND SO IT, IT, IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE ARTIST HAS THEM.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ANY GENRE, ANY ARTIST OF COLOR, NOT OF COLOR, DOESN'T MATTER THAT THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO THAT RELEASE SHOW AND DO IT WELL.
THE SECOND PART OF THAT THOUGH IS, IS, IS THE VENUE.
BECAUSE IF IT'S A TICKET AT SHOW, YOU HAVE TO SELL PROBABLY CLOSE TO A HUNDRED TICKETS BEFORE YOU START MAKING ANY KIND OF MONEY AT ALL WHATSOEVER.
AND IF YOU HAVE, IF THE VENUE HAS A FUND THAT'S ALLOWED TO BE USED FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT, WELL NOW THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE TO SELL ANY TICKETS.
NOW THE ARTIST GETS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT, THOSE, THOSE TICKETS, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE GUARANTEED TO MAKE MONEY ON THAT SHOW.
IT'S JUST A VERY UNSEXY, PRAGMATIC THING.
AND SO I'M PLANTING MY STEAK HERE AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'LL SEE HOW THIS GOES, HOW THESE CONVERSATIONS GO, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO THE, THE, UM, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
BECAUSE THAT IS AN ALLOWABLE EXPENSE.
IT'S A VENUE RENTAL SO THAT THE ARTIST KEEPS EVERYTHING.
THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LOVE FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
AND VENUES DO IT ALL THE TIME.
AND, UM, YOU'RE PAYING FOR A SERVICE, THEREFORE YOU CAN KEEP ALL YOUR MERCH, YOU CAN KEEP ALL YOUR TICKETS.
THE BAR IS THE VENUES, THAT'S FINE.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING ENOUGH MONEY ON THE ELEMENTS THAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER, AND THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE.
AND, AND, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I MEAN, AND IT, AND IT WOULDN'T BE SPECIFICALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, RENTING OUT A VENUE PER SE, BUT IF I WERE TO GO TO SOMEPLACE LIKE PARAMOUNT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MM-HMM.
AND SO IF IT'S, IF, IF THEY'RE GIVING ME THE ROOM AND, AND ACTUALLY PNC BANK IS WORKING, IS IS DOING, UM, UH, UM, A PROGRAM LIKE THIS MM-HMM.
UM, BASICALLY THE MONEY THAT THIS, THEY WOULD, THAT VENUE WOULD GET FROM THE CITY WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE COSTS.
LIKE THE, THE NUTS, THE HOUSE NUTS.
AND YOU COULD EVEN COMBINE A VENUE GETTING A GRANT FOR THE NUT, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS THE FACILITY COST FOR THE NIGHT, ALL IN SECURITY LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, BAR PEOPLE.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE MUSICIAN COULD APPLY FOR, TO PAY THE MUSICIANS AND PAY DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT YOUR BAND, AND THEN ALSO PART OF YOUR RECORD.
AND THOSE THINGS DON'T CROSS AGAIN, CAN'T DOUBLE DIP.
SO THAT'S ONE ELEMENT THAT WE COULD ASK VENUES.
WHAT, HOW, WHAT ABOUT A FUND JUST TO PAY MUSICIANS OR A FUND TO PAY YOUR HOUSE NUT FOR, UM, ELIGIBLE MUSICIANS FOR LOCAL MUSICIANS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.
BECAUSE WE DO, WE WANNA SHOW PEOPLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO IN DEBT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL YOUR PROFITS TO PAY YOUR EXPENSES FOR THE EVENT AND THEN MAKE NOTHING.
WE WANNA REMOVE THAT RISK AND THEN ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, TEACH THE MUSICIANS, THIS IS HOW IT WORKS, THIS IS HOW THE VENUES HAVE TO SET IT UP IN ORDER TO JUST BREAK EVEN FOR THE NIGHT, UH, TO MAKE EVERYBODY KIND OF MORE A PART OF THE PROCESS SO THAT THEY CAN
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ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES.AND, AND, AND ALSO, UH, JUST TO KIND OF ECHO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ERICA, UM, IF THE EVENT IS, UH, IF IT'S A BUST AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE PAID FOR, WELL THEN, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE JUST KIND OF GOES HOME OR WHATEVER.
THE CASE MAY BE, AND MAYBE THERE'S NO MONEY LOST, BUT IF IT IS SUCCESSFUL, IT'S A GAME THAT'S GAME CHANGER.
AND NOT, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF THAT EVENT ITSELF, NOT BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS AND, AND THE VIABILITY OF A LIVE MUSIC FUND, BUT AS THE, FOR THE ARTISTS THEMSELVES MM-HMM.
TO DO THAT WOULD GIVE THAT ARTIST A VERY SUSTAINABLE CAREER.
PRETTY MUCH, PROBABLY IN TEXAS, MAYBE THE COUNTRY, UM, DEFINITELY HERE IN AUSTIN.
SO IT TAKES THE RISK BECAUSE POLESTAR TYPICALLY USE TO GAUGE TICKET SALES AND WHAT A, AN ARTIST WILL SELL, SELL, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS THE EQUITABLE WAY OF DETERMINING A, UH, THE SELLABILITY OF AN ARTIST, HONESTLY.
SO THIS TAKES THAT RISK, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE LOOKING AT POLESTAR KIND OF ALLEVIATES YOUR RISK OF WHAT YOU COULD PROBABLY, HOW MANY TICKETS YOU COULD SELL, AND FOR HOW MUCH, THIS IS THE SAME THING.
UH, YOU WERE REMOVING THE RISK SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE THOSE CHANCES AND VENUES WANNA TAKE CHANCES.
THEY WANNA HAVE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF AUDIENCES COME IN AND, AND TO EXPAND WHO COMES.
BUT SOMETIMES THE RISK IS JUST TOO HIGH IF IT'S AN UNKNOWN.
AND SO THIS HELPS TAKE THAT UNKNOWN AWAY.
UM, A WHILE AGO YOU WERE MENTIONING ABOUT THE, THE VENUES, UH, HAVING FUNDS FOR THE MUSICIANS.
NOW THE YOUNG LADY WHO SPOKE, UH, FIRST TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING MM-HMM.
COULD SOMETHING BE DONE TO WHERE THE VENUES THAT HAVE LIVE MUSIC PROVIDE SOME SORT OF, UH, PARKING? UH, WELL, WE'LL HAVE AGENDA ITEM TO THAT.
YEAH, WE'LL BRING, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT'S POSSIBLE THE NEXT TIME WE STILL HAVE THE MUSICIAN LOADING AND LOADING.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, LONG-TERM PARKING THAT EVENING.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER A VILLA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I HAVE A FEW, BUT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO AT IT.
NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, DID YOU WANNA TOUCH ON JUST TEEING OFF ON WHAT COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND HAD TO SAY ABOUT, UM, THE VENUE INVOLVEMENT, HOW THE HISTORY OF THE, THE, THE WORKING GROUP, WHERE VENUES WERE INVOLVED IN THAT? YOU KNOW, THAT BEING PART OF THE CONVERSATION? YEAH, YEAH.
AND SO VENUES WERE PART OF THE CONVERSATION, UH, WHEN WE WERE DETERMINING, UH, WE RAN THE LAST WORKING GROUP THAT YIELDED THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND WE HAD, JUST SO THE NEWER COMMISSIONERS HERE ARE AWARE, WE ARE, WE HAD TWO SETS OF RECOMMENDATIONS, ESSENTIALLY.
ONE WITH MUSICIANS, VENUES, AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS WHEN YOU PROMOTERS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS ALL BEING INCLUDED IN THE FIRST YEAR, THE FIRST TIME THE FUND ROLLED OUT.
AND THE SECOND OPTION WAS TO HAVE MUSICIANS, INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS IN THE FIRST YEAR AND BRING VENUES.
AND IN THE SECOND YEAR, THE SECOND OPTION, UM, HAD THE MAJORITY VOTES AT THIS COMMISSION.
UM, I PERSONALLY, UH, DID VOTE FOR VENUES BEING INCLUDED RIGHT FROM THE FIRST YEAR JUST FOR, UH, UH, I THINK EFFICIENCY OF, UH, IMPLEMENTATION REALLY.
UM, SO I THINK THAT, WELL, WE HAVE A FEW STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE BEEN VOCAL AND THAT HAVE BEEN AT THE TABLE.
THERE HAVE BEEN SPOKESPEOPLE FOR MUSICIANS, UH, INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS, UM, VENUES.
AND THE, THE VERY SPIRIT OF BRINGING HOT TAXES TO COMMERCIAL MUSIC WAS TO ALWAYS BUILD AND SUPPORT, UH, THE ECOSYSTEM.
UM, AND TO GROW THAT ECOSYSTEM, WE HAVE A VENUE ECOSYSTEM, WE HAVE MUSICIANS.
THERE SEEMS TO BE, UM, AREAS, OTHER AREAS WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF SPACE FOR GROWTH.
AND BROADENING THE USERS ESSENTIALLY HELPS GET SOME OF THIS MONEY TO OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL MUSIC SPACE.
IF A MUSICIAN GOES AND SPENDS, UH, DOLLARS AT A RECORDING STUDIO, UH, THAT IS, UH, ALSO HELPFUL IN BUILDING THEIR CAREERS, IT'S THEN, THEN, THEN THERE'S SOME PART OF THIS FUND THAT'S GOING TO, UH, A STUDIO ENGINEER, A VIDEOGRAPHER AND OTHER FOLKS.
AND THAT WAY YOU ARE SUPPORTING THE LARGER ECOSYSTEM THROUGH THIS FUND.
AND AS THE FUND GROWS, THAT SUPPORT HOPEFULLY WILL ALSO EXPAND.
SO I THINK FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, SO IT'S A MATTER OF ALSO OFFERING CHOICE
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TO MUSICIANS UH, AND OTHER MUSIC PROFESSIONALS ON HOW THEY WANT TO BEST UTILIZE THESE DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THEIR CAREERS, RIGHT? BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MAY THRIVE IN THE VENUE SYSTEM, OTHER FOLKS ARE GOING TO THRIVE THROUGH, UH, MAKING AN AMAZING RECORD OR, UH, MAKING AN AMAZING VIDEO, RIGHT? AND IT'S, IT OFFERS CHOICE.AND AS YOU YOURSELF MENTIONED THERE IS, IT'S THE, THE LAW DOESN'T PRESCRIBE IT TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT TOURISM.
AND A CLASSIC EXAMPLE FOR THAT, UH, IN AUSTIN IS ACL.
AND THAT WAS A BROADCAST THAT PUT AUSTIN MUSIC ON THE MAP, ESSENTIALLY.
AND ACL L IS STILL ONE OF THE BIGGEST IDENTIFIERS, UH, THE TV SHOW AND THE FESTIVAL IN SOUTH BA.
I MEAN, THERE JUST, JUST, SO, THERE ARE JUST THESE DIFFERENT AVENUES THROUGH WHICH MUSIC CAN BE SHARED AND, YOU KNOW, BRANDING CAN HAPPEN.
AND I THINK THE BROADEN USERS JUST EXPAND, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO NOW GO THROUGH DIFFERENT AVENUES.
AND THAT WAS PRIMARILY ONE OF THE REASONS I'D ALSO SUPPORTED THE VENUES BRINGING IN THE VENUES EARLY ON, IS BECAUSE IT IS NOT EVERY MUSICIAN MIGHT WANNA GO PUT A BIG SHOW TOGETHER, UH, BUT THEY CAN AVAIL OF A VENUE.
AND THAT WAS ONE WAY TO BUILD SOME EQUITABLE BOOKING PRACTICES, SOME MORE DIVERSITY AND GENRE DIVERSITY IN OUR VENUES, WHICH IS DEFINITELY LACKING TODAY.
AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY EVERY GENRE, IT'S NOT EVERY ARTIST OF COLOR.
THERE ARE ARTISTS OF COLOR ON OUR STAGES, UH, INCLUDING IN THE VENUES, BUT IT'S ONLY, THERE ARE CERTAIN GENRES THAT GOT LOCKED OUT, AND IT HAS BEEN IMPROVING, PERHAPS, BUT THEY STILL REALLY GET LOCKED OUT OF, OF THAT SYSTEM.
AND SO IT'S OFFERING THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST, JUST EXPAND, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE CHOICE AND ALSO THEN GETTING THE DOLLARS INTO THE ECOSYSTEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS ALSO IMPORTANT IS THAT MOST OF OUR VENUES WHEN WE TURN AROUND, AND I'M NOT, AGAIN, DRAWING A BROAD A BRUSH AGAINST THIS, BUT A LOT OF THE TIME, EVEN IF THE ART AND THERE'S AN ARTIST OF COLOR ON STAGE, THE AUDIENCE IS STILL PREDOMINANTLY WHITE.
AND THIS IS, THIS COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO JUST HOW PEOPLE GO OUT AND, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, ENJOY MUSIC OR WHAT, WHAT VENUES THEY GO TO OR WHAT AVENUES THEY AVAIL OF.
UM, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND THE LACK OF GENRE DIVERSITY SOMETIMES, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY GETS ATTRIBUTED TO, UH, MARKET FORCES.
WELL, IF WE JUST FOCUS FUNDS SO NARROWLY ON ONE OR TWO ENTITIES, THEN I THINK WE ARE INSTITUTIONALIZING THAT BIAS EVEN MORE.
SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO EXPAND IT AND, AND LET, YOU KNOW, LET MUSICIANS AND MUSIC PROFESSIONALS, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM TO USE THESE FUNDS.
IT'S SEED MONEY FOR THE INDUSTRY, EVERY ELEMENT OF THE INDUSTRY.
BECAUSE VENUES WILL OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT THROUGH THIS FIRST VERSION BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL DO THEIR PROJECTS AT VENUES, UM, AND THEN HAVE A MORE CONCERTED ROLE IN FY 24, WHICH IS GREAT.
SO OUR GOAL ALWAYS WAS TO NOT LEAVE OUT ANYONE THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT BUDGET IS SET UP IN, IN SUCH A WAY.
AND WE WILL WORK WITH ALL OF THE AWARDEES ON A WORKING EXCEL VERSION OF THAT BUDGET AND SHOW THEM HOW TO USE IT THROUGH THE LIFE OF THEIR PROJECT SO THEY UNDERSTAND LIKE, YOU DON'T ASK FOR FRIEND DEALS, DON'T ASK FOR FREE STUFF.
YOU HAVE THE BUDGET TO DO THIS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT STARTS BUILDING UP THE ECONOMY OF THE SYSTEM AND OF THE INDUSTRY HERE.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I DO, UH, WANT TO SAY THAT I, I WAS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE BOTH IN THAT WORKING GROUP TOGETHER, AND I WAS, I WAS VERY, I WAS VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED, UH, TO VENUES RECEIVING, UH, THOSE FUNDS AT THE TIME.
UM, AND THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH, IT WAS A, AGAIN, IT WAS A PRETTY PRAGMATIC DECISION.
YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF VENUES, A LOT OF THEM, PROBABLY ALL OF THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, HAD A LOT OF HELP FROM THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, UH, DURING THAT TIME.
UM, BECAUSE WE WERE ALSO DEBATING ABOUT THIS DURING COVID.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, VENUES HAD EMPLOYEES, SO THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD THE EMPLOYEE RETENTION CREDIT.
THEY HAD SHUTTER VENUES GRANT MONEY THAT THEY WERE AWARDED IN THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, UM, TWO ROUNDS OF PAYCHECK PROTECTION, FUND FUNDING THAT WENT OUT TO ALL KINDS OF BUSINESSES.
BUT NOT ONLY THOSE BUSINESSES, UM, UH, SORRY, THEY, THEY WENT OUT TO THOSE BUSINESSES, BUT THERE WAS ALSO ECONOMIC INJURY, DISASTER LOAN MONEY, UM, THAT WENT OUT TO, UH, THOSE LOCAL, UH, BUSINESSES, UH, AS WELL.
AND IF YOU WERE ONE OF THE 44 MILLION PEOPLE, THAT WAS LUCKY ENOUGH AND FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET LAID OFF, UM, DURING COVID, UH, YOU AND I SAY THAT VERY SARCASTICALLY HERE, UM, THE ONLY THING THAT YOU HAD AT YOUR DISPOSAL WAS $600 A WEEK FOR 26 WEEKS, UM, BECAUSE
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OF THE UNEMPLOYMENT, UM, THE ARPA FUNDING FROM, UM, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.SO, UM, THE REASON WHY I DID OPPOSE VENUES GETTING THOSE FUNDS AT THE TIME IS BECAUSE THEY HAD BASICALLY FOUR DIFFERENT SPIGOTS THAT THEY COULD TURN ON, UM, FOUR MONEY.
AND, UM, BASICALLY PEOPLE, ARTISTS, YOU KNOW, AND PREDOMINANTLY ARTISTS OF COLOR DIDN'T HAVE ANY AT ALL EXCEPT FOR THE UNEMPLOYMENT THAT THEY HAD TO GO ON.
SO, UM, AND, AND SPEAKING ABOUT THIS, IT IS, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A DOLLAR AND CENTS THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, THE IDEA IS THAT IF, IF, IF THE VENUES GET THE MONEY OR IF THE ARTIST GET THE MONEY, THE ARTIST STILL WINS BECAUSE THE ARTIST IS PLAYING WITH HOUSE MONEY.
BASICALLY, IF THE ARTIST HAS THE ABILITY TO TAKE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THEIR EVENT, WHATEVER THAT EVENT MAY BE, AND IT'S SUBSIDIZED, UM, BY A LIVE MUSIC FUND ROUND TWO IN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN SOME SORT OF VENUE BY SOME SORT OF VENUE CREDIT OR SOMETHING, THEN IT GIVES THE ARTIST LESS OF A RISK, AND THEY COULD HAVE A MORE SUCCESSFUL SHOW.
THEY COULD LEAD TO BETTER ADVERTISING.
IT COULD LEAD TO THEM HAVING A MORE VIABLE AND MORE SUSTAINABLE CAREER.
LIKE HANLEY SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO DEBT, UM, TO, UM, DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S, UM, WHETHER IT IS, JUST TO MAKE THE RECORD CLEAR ON THAT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
IF, UH, AN APPLICANT IS AWARDED, UM, A GRANT THIS YEAR FROM THE FUND, CAN THEY APPLY AGAIN? YES.
UH, THEY WILL JUST NOT GET AS, THERE'S A, LIKE WILL BE BONUS POINTS FOR PEOPLE WHO'VE NEVER BEEN AWARDED BEFORE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS FUNDING PROGRAMS. SO THAT IF YOU'VE NEVER, IF JUST MISSED THE, YOU KNOW, THE CUT FOR FY 23, YOU KNOW, APPLY AGAIN FOR FY 24, YOU WILL GET ADDITIONAL POINTS, YOU KNOW, FOR NOT BEING FUNDED YET.
AND SO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FUNDED WILL GET LESS POINTS, AND SO IT WILL TAKE YOU DOWN THE LESS MONEY.
YEAH, WELL, NOT LESS MONEY, JUST LESS POINTS TO SCORE.
SO IT JUST PRIORITIZES, UH, PEOPLE WITH MORE POINTS TO SCORE HIGHER AND MORE POTENTIALLY GET THE UNDERSTOOD.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LEVINS LAST CALL.
[5. Discussion and possible action on music hubs]
AGENDA ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSIC HUBS.UM, I CHAIR THE BOARD OF EQ AUSTIN, SO I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW ON WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THAT FRONT, UH, WITH THE CONTRACT THAT EQ AUSTIN HAS WITH, UH, PAR.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE MORE DETAILS, I THINK THE, UM, IN, IN THE ACTUAL, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PROGRAMMING AND PLANNING OF THIS, UH, UH, THOSE WILL GET COMMUNICATED THROUGH CHANNELS OF PART AND, UH, EQ AUSTIN SOCIAL MEDIA, ET CETERA, AND THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT INFORMATION IS FORTHCOMING.
UM, SO I, UH, LET ME, LET ME, UH, FOR AWARENESS PERSPECTIVE, LET ME CALL OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY HAPPENING WITHIN THAT SPACE.
SO, EQ AUSTIN HAS CURRENTLY A CONTRACT WITH PART TO DO BUSINESS ANALYSIS TO DO COMMU, UH, COMMUNITY FOCUS GROUPS, UH, AND PROVIDE, UH, THE OUTCOMES TO PART AS PART OF THIS CONTRACT.
UM, EQ AUSTIN IS, UH, PARTNERING WITH, UH, 2 1 12.
IT'S A COMPANY IN CHICAGO, AS WELL AS SOUND MUSIC CITIES, AND IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO BRING TOGETHER LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS AND LEVERAGE OUR COLLECTIVE EXISTING EXPERIENCE, RESOURCES, AND NETWORK TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF CREATIVE HUBS WITHIN THE THREE PART CULTURAL CENTERS.
THE, THE MRSS BARTOS, MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER, MAC GEORGE WASHINGTON CAR MUSEUM, AND THE ASIAN AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE, THESE TWO PARTNERS THAT WE WILL BE, UH, SUBCONTRACTING WITH.
UH, TWO 12 IS A COMPANY FROM CHICAGO OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS, TWO 12 HAS BEEN WORKING TOWARDS A COMPREHENSIVE MODEL OF CREATIVE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT THAT COMBINES INTENTIONAL COMMUNITY PHYSICAL RESOURCES AND ENTREPRENEURIAL EDUCATION AND MENTORSHIP INTO ONE COHESIVE STRATEGY.
UH, THAT TO OUR KNOWLEDGE DOES NOT EXIST CURRENTLY IN THIS, UH, UH, THROUGH ANY OTHER ENTITY IN THE COUNTRY.
THEY HAVE BUILT A SUCCESSFUL HUB IN CHICAGO INSIDE A ONE 60,000 SQUARE FEET FACILITY THAT INCLUDES, UH, A BUSINESS INCUBATOR SURROUNDED BY BAND REHEARSAL ROOMS, MUSIC PRODUCTION STUDIOS, INDEPENDENTLY OWNED AND OPERATED RECORDING STUDIOS, PUBLIC
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FACING RESOURCES FOR CONTENT CREATION AND A FILM PRODUCTION FACILITY.AND THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A SIMILAR FACILITY, A PHYSICAL HUB IN MILWAUKEE, SOUND MUSIC CITIES, UM, THAT JUST, UH, SPEARHEADED THE GREATER AUSTIN MUSIC CENSUS SURVEY.
THEY WERE BORN FROM THE DIRECT EXPERIENCE IN MUSIC RELATED POLICY, MUSIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, IMPLEMENTATIONS, AND LEADERSHIP OF SOUND MANAGEMENT, UH, INITIATIVES.
THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN, UH, MUSIC ECOSYSTEM ASSESSMENTS AND STRATEGY, UH, THAT BALANCES THE NEEDS OF THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY WITH THE NEEDS OF THE GREATER COMMUNITY.
AND EQ AUSTIN, UM, AS I MIGHT HAVE BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON BEFORE AS WELL, IS, UM, UH, HAS LED D EI MUSIC ADVOCACY IN AUSTIN PLAYING A CENTRAL ROLE IN SECURING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEING PLACED INTO THE MUSIC AND ARTS, UH, COMMUNITY.
JUST TO QUICKLY TOUCHING ON THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS CONTRACT, UM, IT HAS THREE ESSENTIAL, UH, ITEMS. ONE IS COMMUNITY INFORMATION GATHERING.
SO COLLECTIVELY, UH, WE WILL BE HOLDING TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT EACH OF THESE CENTERS.
AND THEN BETWEEN THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UH, THERE WILL BE THREE FOCUS GROUPS, UM, THAT WILL BE RUN, UH, AT THESE THREE CENTERS.
UH, THE OTHER, UH, THE SECOND DEL VARIABLE IS CULTURAL CENTER REPORTS.
ESSENTIALLY KEY FINDINGS FROM COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND FOCUS GROUPS, ASSESSMENT OF THE LOCAL ARTISTS, COMMUNITY NEEDS, ASSESSMENT OF EACH CULTURAL CENTER FACILITY NEEDS AND ASSETS.
AND THE LAST ONE BEING RECOMMENDATIONS AND COST ESTIMATES OF THE BUILDOUT OF THE PHYSICAL SPACE.
WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE TO ACTUALLY BUILD THESE, UH, MU OR, UH, YOU KNOW, CREATIVE HUBS AT, UH, THE THREE CULTURAL CENTERS? THE LAST DELIVERABLE IS, UH, EXEMPLARS RESEARCH AND REPORTS.
SO BASICALLY BEYOND 2 1 12 AND SOUND MUSIC CITIES AND, UH, EQ AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, UH, TALKING TO OTHER ENTITIES, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE AND NONPROFIT, UM, ON WHERE SUSTAINABLE MODELS, UM, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS THESE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, HOW THEY HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE BEST PRACTICES, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS HAS BEEN APPROACHED AND PROVIDING SOME DATA POINTS AND RE UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY, UH, INFORMATION AROUND THAT.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE DELIVERABLES FROM THIS CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE.
UM, THE, THE IDEA OF MUSIC HUBS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN, UH, AN ASPIRATION FROM, UH, SEVERAL YEARS FOR EQ AUSTIN.
AND, UH, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, THE GROUP IS REALLY THRILLED TO HAVE THIS CONTRACT TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY MOVE THIS, UH, LONG HEALTH ASPIRATION, UH, FORWARD.
UH, THE CREATING THESE HUBS AT, AT THE, THESE, THESE ESSENTIAL CULTURAL CENTERS.
THESE ARE SISTER FACILITIES, REALLY, RIGHT? THE ARC, THE MAC AND, AND CARVER.
UM, IT JUST REALLY PROVIDES A WAY TO, UH, BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S SUSTAINABLE AND THEN NOT DEPENDENT ON AN INDIVIDUAL ENTITY OR AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON OR COMPANY.
THEY WILL BE GOVERNMENT OWNED.
THERE WILL BE SOME PARTNERSHIP WITH NONPROFITS TO RUN THE PROGRAMMING, ET CETERA.
SO WE CAN PROVIDE PROGRAMMING AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, DEDICATED SUPPORT TO, UH, ARTISTS OF COLOR, UH, AND, AND PROFESSIONALS, UH, CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS OF COLOR.
UH, BUT THEY WILL BE ESSENTIALLY OWNED BY PART IN THE GOVERNMENT, AND THAT GIVES IT LONGEVITY AND, AND SUSTAINABILITY AS WELL AS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, UH, ONCE THEY'RE BUILT, THEY WILL BE THERE IN PERPETUITY.
UH, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS? COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL? UH, YEAH.
UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ATTACH TO THESE MUSIC HUBS OR, UH, EITHER BY PHYSICAL PROXIMITY OR BY ORGANIZATIONAL ARRANGEMENT? UH, SOME TYPE OF HOUSING, LIKE, UH, LOW, UM, LIKE, LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DORMITORIES FOR MUSICIANS.
WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT ALL THE FACILITIES IN ONE PLACE, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS ISSUES WITH TRANSPORT AND ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, WOULD IT BE CONCEIVABLE TO ATTACH TO THESE MUSIC HUBS, MUSIC DORMS? YEAH, I, UH, I'M AWARE, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, THIS IS A MATTER THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO YOUR HEART, UH, AND THAT YOU HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN, UH, UM, PURSUING, UH, YOU KNOW, AVENUES TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND HOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
UM, THESE ARE, THESE ARE, UH, C COMMUNITIES, CULTURAL CENTERS THAT ARE ALREADY STANDING.
THEY, THERE'S A SPECIFIC PHYSICAL LOCATION AT THIS POINT.
SO I THINK, UM, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO
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IF THAT KIND OF A POSSIBILITY EXISTS.UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, ALSO FROM, IN TALKING TO YOU IS THAT, THAT, UM, DEDICATED HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CANNOT BE BUILT FOR ONE SECTOR.
THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME, UH, WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN TELL ME IF I'M NOT, UM, TRANSLATING THAT CORRECTLY.
UM, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT IN CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THIS WORK SCOPE.
SO I WILL, I CAN CLARIFY THAT, THAT AS PART OF OUR CONTRACT, IT'S NOT ONE OF THE DELIVERABLES TO EXPLORE THAT ASPECT.
AND WHAT, WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT, THAT IT IS VERY PROBLEMATIC TO DISCRIMINATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BASED ON SOMEONE'S PROFESSION.
HOWEVER, THAT IS ONLY APPLICABLE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH GOVERNMENT FUNDS.
AND IF THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF PHILANTHROPIC FUNDING, UH, THAT, UH, THESE, THESE DORMS COULD, COULD BE FUNCTIONING, AND THAT WOULD, THAT COULD MAKE FOR A REALLY STRONG PARTNERSHIP.
I WOULD, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I WOULD JUST QUICKLY, UM, ADD THAT I THINK, UM, THIS, THIS KIND OF FEEDBACK, IT WOULD BE VERY WELCOME AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY FOCUS GROUPS THAT WILL BE RUN AT THESE CULTURAL CENTERS.
AND I THINK BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT WE PROVIDE AS AN OUTCOME IN THE, IN THE REPORTS, ET CETERA, WILL BE COMING FROM COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, RIGHT? WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL IDEA OF HOW THESE CAN BE BUILT, BUT ON TOP, IT HAS TO, UH, EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, HAS TO COME FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND OUR REPORT WILL BE BASED ON THAT.
AND YES, THE, THE, THE, THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL IN THE RUNNING OF THESE HUBS THEMSELVES THAT CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UH, UH, PRIVATE PHILANTHROPIC, UH, FUNDING.
AND, UM, AND THIS IS AN ASPECT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE THE, IT'S NOT PART OF THE SCOPE AS AS YET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M REALLY GLAD TO HAVE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BEING BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION ON THIS.
I DO THINK IN ANY CITY MAJOR DEVELOPMENT, THAT SHOULD, SHOULD BE A QUESTION THAT'S ASKED.
UM, I THINK, UH, AND I, I WANT THAT IDEA TO BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS, AS VOLLEY SAID, SO THAT WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE COME AND, AND GIVE FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THESE PHYSICAL, THESE PARTICULAR PHYSICAL SPACES AREN'T THE RIGHT ONES FOR THIS, BUT, UH, JUST TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE, THE NEW ZONING THAT THE CITY IS WORKING ON.
AND I MEAN, THEY'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALSO THE WORK SPACES.
AND, UH, I THINK THE, THE LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF UNRELATED ADULTS THAT CAN LIVE IN A, A SINGLE STRUCTURE HAS JUST BEEN INCREASED.
AND SO ALL ALL OF THIS IS, IS IN THE ZEITGEIST TIER AND, AND IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW, SO I THINK IT'S AWESOME THAT A STUDY IS BEING DONE ON WHAT, WHAT A MUSIC HUB COULD DO.
BUT HOW DID THIS, UM, LIKE WHAT PRECEDED THE STUDY? LIKE, HOW WAS THIS NEED ESTABLISHED OR TALKED ABOUT ORIGINALLY? UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, UM, IT, IT HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING ASPIRATION, UH, PROBABLY IN PEOPLE'S HEARTS AND MINDS FROM FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN, UH, PRIOR, YOU KNOW, UH, LONG TIME MEMBERS OF EQ OR WHAT BECAME EQ EVENTUALLY.
UM, UM, UH, THIS WAS ALSO SPOKEN ABOUT AS, UH, PART OF, UH, UM, MAYOR ALAS OMNI, HE REFERRED TO MUSIC HUBS BEING CREATED AT THESE CULTURAL CENTERS AND, AND THE ECOSYSTEM BEING SUPPORTED, UM, THROUGH THESE MUSIC HUBS.
UM, IF, UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, I KNOW I HAVE SOME OF, SOME, SOME DATES AND STUFF HERE.
I DON'T WANNA MIS OUT DATES AND WHATNOT, SO, UM, GIVE ME ONE MOMENT.
SO THE, THE PROPOSAL WAS SUPPORTED BY MAYOR RADLER.
UM, AND, UM, I THINK THE, UM, IT WAS AROUND 2016 WHEN THE CREATIVE SPACE RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, UM, BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, WHICH SUPPORTED THIS IDEA OF HUBS, UH, BEING CREATED.
UM, IN 2019, THERE WAS, UH, A REQUEST FOR MUSIC HUBS FROM, UH, THE CARVER AMBASSADORS.
UM, THEN, UM, 2020 IS WHEN THE CREATIVE SPACE BOND RECOMMENDATION BY JOINT WORKING GROUP OF ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION THAT HAPPENED, UM, THE ONE THAT, UM, UM, ADC IS HOLDING IN THE CULTURAL TRUST, UH, THAT THE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE RUNNING.
UH, AND IN 2022 JANUARY IS WHEN THE CULTURAL TRUST PROPOSAL SUBMITTED, UH, UH, FOR MUSIC CENTERS.
UH, SO WE, EQ AUSTIN ACTUALLY SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS FOR, UH, MUSIC CENTERS, UH, AS PART OF THE CREATIVE SPACE BOND AS WELL.
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UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF CREATING THESE MUSIC HUBS, UH, WITH PART FROM, UH, SEVERAL YEARS.UM, AND, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S AMAZING TO SEE, UM, AT LEAST LIKE THE ANALYSIS PART OF IT COMING TO FRUITION.
UM, AT THIS POINT, UH, MAC IS ALREADY, AS I'M AWARE, UH, ON THEIR WAY TO KIND OF ALREADY, THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED ON THE WORK.
THEY'RE THE FURTHEST AHEAD AND, UM, ARC WITH ARC.
IT'S ALSO PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS PART OF THE PHASE TWO DEVELOPMENT.
UH, COMMISSIONER DLA, UH, YES, I'M GLAD I HAD THAT INFORMATION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE STAFFING OF THE HUB.
IS IT GONNA BE A PARKS OR IS IT GONNA BE SOMEONE THAT ACTUALLY KNOWS THINGS ABOUT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY BEING, UH, EVERYTHING THAT THE, THAT THE, THAT THE HUB ENTAILS? YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A TBD.
WE DEFINITELY ENVISION, UM, THE, THE CORE FACILITIES BEING RUN BY PART EMPLOYEES, OR IT COULD BE A NEW REC, AN INCREMENTAL REC THAT GETS CREATED, AND YOU HIRE PEOPLE THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO RUN THAT, RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE IDEA.
UM, THEY COULD BE POTENTIAL, UH, NON-PAR, UH, NON-PROFIT PARTNERSHIPS, BUT THAT WOULD BE MORE GEARED TOWARDS RUNNING SPECIFIC PROGRAMS LIKE FOR, UH, LATINO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS OR, OR FOR ASIAN FOLKS AT THE ARC, ET CETERA.
UM, BECAUSE BROADLY THESE BEING PUBLIC FACILITIES, THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY.
SO THE NONPROFIT ANGLE MIGHT, COULD BE UTILIZED POTENTIALLY TO CREATE SOME TARGETED PROGRAMS. UM, BUT, UM, UM, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, THE IDEA IS THAT THE CORE EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE FROM THE CITY.
UM, AND ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THAT THAT PROVIDES VALUE, UH, TOWARDS, UH, THESE BEING KIND OF INDEPENDENT OPERATIONS FROM ANY INDIVIDUAL OR PRIVATE ENTITIES.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ADVANTAGE THERE.
UM, COMMISSIONER KAZA, UM, YOU MAY HAVE STATED THIS IN YOUR DATES, UM, WHICH I APPLAUD YOU FOR HAVING THAT INFORMATION.
BUT, UM, SO IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL CONTRACT, WHEN DID THE CONTRACT START AND HOW LONG IS THE CONTRACT FOR? UM, WE SUBMITTED IN MARCH, I, I MIGHT BE MISSTATING THE DATES, BUT WHAT PROBABLY IN THE LAST MONTH OR TWO, WE GOT THE CONTRACT.
UM, BUT, UH, THE, UM, UM, IDEA IS TO PROVIDE THE OUTCOMES BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO, UH, USING THROUGH CHANNELS THAT PART HAS, EQ HAS, AND, AND WE, I MEAN, THIS IS, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE 20 PLUS COMMUNITIES OR, OR ORGANIZATIONS OF COLOR THAT ARE ON BOARD TO TAKE PART, UM, IN, IN THESE COMMUNITY FOCUS GROUPS, ET CETERA.
AND WE'LL BRING, BE BRINGING IN MORE FOLKS, UH, AND REACHING OUT BROADLY.
UM, AND SO THROUGH ALL OF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS TO START HAVING THESE MEETINGS IN, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND, AND, UH, WRAP THIS UP BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE? UH, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, JUST CHECKING IN WITH YOU.
CAN YOU NOT SEE ME? NO, I CAN ABSOLUTELY SEE YOU.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS I'M LOOKING AROUND HERE THAT, UH, I'M CHECKING IN WITH YOU, JUST MAKING SURE.
YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO.
[6. Discussion and possible action following AEDC Cultural Trust update by Anne Gatling Haynes, Chief Transaction Officer, Austin Economic Development Corporation, on blocks 16 and 18]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING ADC CULTURAL TRUST UPDATE BY ANN KALIN HAYES, UH, CHIEF TRANSACTION OFFICER ADC ON BLOCK 16 AND 18.UM, OKAY, SO I'M GONNA PLAY ANNE GATLING HAYNES IN THIS EPISODE OF MUSIC COMMISSION.
I DID NOT, UM, CAUSE ANNE'S TRAVELING TODAY.
UH, BUT ANNE WAS AT THE LAST MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING AND GAVE US A, A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, A, SOME HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT THE PROJECT ON BLOCK 16 AND 18 ON 11TH STREET IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE DISTRICT.
SO, I'M JUST GONNA HIT SOME OF THOSE POINTS AGAIN.
UH, SO THERE IS A, A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS IN THE WORK, UH, IN THE WORKS.
AND THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED AFTER MANY, MANY YEARS OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT ON WHAT REDEVELOPMENT COULD BE LIKE ON THESE PARTICULAR BLOCKS OF 11TH STREET.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT AREA HAS CHANGED TREMENDOUSLY, AND THERE IS A NEED TO PRESERVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CULTURAL HERITAGE THAT IS ORIGINAL TO THAT AREA.
AND SO, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLANNING, UM, WORK TO ADVANCE THESE CRITICAL PARCELS, UH, WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
AND, AND, UM, SO THIS IS SOMEWHAT PRESERVATION MINDED, BUT ALSO, UH, WITH THE EYE TOWARDS THE FUTURE OF, OF ELEVATING, UM,
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THESE CULTURAL ARTS.SO, UH, I'M GONNA READ A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS NOTES DIRECTLY FROM ANNE.
SO THE CRES PROPOSALS WILL OUTLINE THE SPECIFIC COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEATURES THAT HAS BEEN VOICED BY THE COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS, AND FINALIZED WITH THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD, WHICH I, I, I THINK THAT'S A ANOTHER, THAT'S A CITY COMMISSION, I BELIEVE, OR THAT'S RELATED TO THE CITY.
UM, SO THAT RFP WILL OUTLINE THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, CULTURAL VENUES AND SPACES.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS, UH, GERMANE TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION.
ALTHOUGH, AS I POINTED OUT, AND WARREN POINTED OUT EARLIER, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ALSO GERMANE TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BUT, BUT SPECIFICALLY, UH, CULTURAL ARTS AND MUSIC ORIENTED BUSINESSES, UH, AND VENUES, UM, THERE WILL BE SPACE CARVED OUT FOR THOSE, UM, SMALL BUSINESSES, CREATIVE BUSINESSES, AND EVEN, UM, UH, SMALL GROCERIES SERVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, FOOD DESERT ISSUES HAVE BEEN SOMETHING, UH, TOPICAL ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO THIS WOULD BE, UM, A NEW CONTRIBUTION TO THE HISTORIC AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT, CRITICAL THAT FUTURE RESIDENCES, RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, ARTISTS AND ENTREPRENEURS REFLECT AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CULTURAL HERITAGE OF THE DISTRICT.
UH, THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD IS GONNA MEET TO DISCUSS THIS, UH, LATER THIS MONTH ON JUNE 12TH.
AND THEN THERE, UH, BE A FINAL DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD PRIOR TO RELEASING THE R F P.
UM, SO THERE'S MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS ON THE A E D C WEBSITE.
UM, SO JUST THAT'S, UH, AUSTIN EDC.ORG/BLOCK 16 DASH 18.
UH, SO A MORE INTERESTING WAY AND FUN WAY TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT THIS WOULD BE TO ATTEND THE AEDC EVENT THAT'S OCCURRING, UM, ON, UH, MONDAY, JUNE 19TH, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
SO SEVEN 30 TO 10, AND IT'LL BE AT KENNY DURHAM'S BACKYARD, AND IT'S THE BLUES AND BUSINESS EVENT.
AND WE HAVE, UH, JOSE LOPEZ FROM A D C HERE ONLINE.
UM, JOSE, DO YOU WANNA JUMP ON AND, AND JUST TELL A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT EVENT AND, UM, CUZ I KNOW THIS IS THE SECOND ONE AND HOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT TAKES PLACE.
I'M JOSE LOPEZ HERE WITH THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
UH, I AM THE REAL ESTATE ANALYST AND PROJECT MANAGER.
THIS, UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS OUR SECOND, UH, BLUES AND BUSINESS EVENT.
WE, UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO CANCEL THE, THE LAST ONE DUE TO SOME WEATHER CONCERNS, BUT IT IS REALLY ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY ON 11TH STREET.
UM, THE, THE FIRST ONE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, LO A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES, TENTS, UM, A LOT OF, UH, AFRICAN AMERICAN BUSINESSES REPRESENTED, AND ALSO JUST SOME GREAT MUSIC.
SO IT IS REALLY AN EVENT TO KIND OF GET THE MOMENTUM GOING FOR THIS PROCESS THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR, UH, 30 YEARS NOW.
AND WE ARE FINALLY AT A STAGE WHERE, UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'RE HERE, UM, GETTING AN R F P IN PLACE.
UM, AND WE WILL DEFINITELY BE UPDATING YOU ALL WITH SOME MORE DETAILS ON THAT IN OUR, IN THE NEXT, UH, MEETING.
BUT, UH, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, UM, AND, UH, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A, A GREAT EVENT AGAIN TO GET THAT MOMENTUM AND, AND GET THE COMMUNITY EXCITED AS WELL AS GET SOME FURTHER INPUT, UM, ON WHAT KIND OF, UH, BUSINESSES AND, AND, UM, AND FOLKS THAT WE WANT TO SEE, UM, INCORPORATED INTO THE TWO PROJECTS OF BLOCK 16 AND 18.
I, I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY CRITICAL PROJECT.
IT'S, UM, A LEGACY PROJECT OF SERVING FUTURE GENERATIONS.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT FEELS THAT IN ANY, ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, THEY'RE A STAKEHOLDER IN THIS AND THAT I WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, MUSIC COMMISSIONERS, ARTS COMMISSIONERS, UH, MUSICIANS, ANYBODY THAT CARES ABOUT, UM, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE IN THE CITY TO COME OUT TO THIS EVENT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING, AND, UM, I'M SURE IT'LL BE REALLY FUN.
I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON THIS, UM, INCLUDING, UH, SIX SQUARE AND, UH, AND, AND HAROLD MCMILLAN HAS PLAYED A BIG PART IN THIS ALSO.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOSE? YEAH.
UH, JOSE, UH, WHICH AUSTIN BANDS OR ARTISTS WILL BE PLAYING AT THIS EVENT ON JUNETEENTH AT KENNY DORREN'S BACKYARD? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.
UM, YEAH, THAT WILL BE SETTLED UP WITH, UH, HAROLD IS, UH, WE ARE IN, IN TOUCH WITH HAROLD AND WITH MIRIAM CONNOR.
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UM, I CAN ABSOLUTELY GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU FROM, FROM THOSE FOLKS AS SOON AS WE HAVE A, A, A SOLID LINEUP FOR, UH, THE JUNETEENTH EVENT.COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I I THOUGHT YOU WERE OKAY.
UH, YEAH, AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO MY LIST OF PEOPLE THAT I MIGHT ENCOURAGE TO GO, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT THINK THAT THEY MIGHT BE A GOOD FIT WITH THIS GROUP.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY SHOULD BE A VERY LOCALIZED, VERY COMMUNITY ORIENTED PROJECT.
I DON'T, I THINK THE, THE GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BIG CHAIN STORE WIND UP THERE,
SO YEAH, IF YOU THINK THAT THIS COULD BE ANYTHING RELATED TO, TO SOMETHING THAT YOU DO, LIKE, COME OUT AND FIND OUT MORE AND TALK TO A A D C STAFF WITH YOUR, AND TALK ABOUT YOUR IDEAS.
UM, THAT'S ALL I GOT, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, JOSE, FOR JUMPING ON TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? THANK YOU.
[7. Discussion and possible action on best practices for music performances at Music Commission meetings.]
ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON BEST PRACTICES FOR MUSIC PERFORMANCES AT MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS.SO YEAH, HOW DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD? ANY IDEAS, COMMENTS, IDEAS? OKAY.
WELL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE DOING PRETTY REGULARLY.
UM, WE, WE DID IT, I BELIEVE, FOR ONE ENTIRE YEAR, AND WE HAD, UH, IT, IT, IT WORKS OUT VERY CONVENIENT BECAUSE THERE'S 10 DISTRICTS AS WELL AS THE MAYOR'S APPOINTEE.
AND WHAT WE DID IS WE ARRANGED FOR BANDS TO COME AND, OR BANDS OR ARTISTS, UH, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT OR RESIDENTS OF THAT DISTRICT TO COME AND PRESENT THEIR WORK.
WE WOULD SHOW A VIDEO AND WE WOULD KICK OFF EACH MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, WITH THAT, THE ARTISTS WERE PAID AT THE CITY RATE OF, UH, $200 PER HOUR PER MUSICIAN.
AND IT WAS A GREAT WAY OF, UH, SHARING, UH, SHARING THE CULTURE AND THE MUSIC OF ALL THE DISTRICTS OF AUSTIN THAT HASN'T BEEN HAPPENING.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO GET IT STARTED AGAIN.
UM, WE, WE HAD DISTRICT ONE THIS ROUND, AND, UH, UH, SO WE, UM, I WILL JUST PICK IT UP.
UM, THERE WAS, THERE'S FOLLOW UPS ON, UM, THE APPOINTMENT FROM THAT COMMISSION.
IT HAS TO BE A RENEWED APPOINTMENT FROM THE COUNCIL, SO, UH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PICK IT UP FROM THE NEXT ROUND ON WHICHEVER WAY WE ALL DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
SO COULD WE, UM, COULD WE PUBLISH A SCHEDULE, UH, AND THEN EACH, UH, EACH OF US CAN THEN GO AHEAD AND START COORDINATING WITH ARTISTS OR MUSICIANS IN OUR DISTRICTS TO COME AND PERFORM? YES.
UM, YES, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
SO, UH, PREVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS ON VIDEO BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT WOULD WE LIKE TO, COULD WE CONSIDER THAT THESE BEING LIVE PERFORMANCES SINCE LIVE PERFORMANCES HAVE STARTED AGAIN AT COUNCIL MEETINGS? HELLO EVERYBODY.
UM, SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE GUY HERE FOR OUR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND HE CERTAINLY IS QUALIFIED TO DO IT, BUT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE HERE TO BE ABLE TO LOAD IN AND GET ALL OF THIS SET UP.
TYPICALLY FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS, THEY HAVE FOUR PEOPLE QUICKLY WORKING TOGETHER LIKE A OIL OILED MACHINE TO GET THEM LOADED IN, IN FIVE MINUTES.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY HERE.
AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO A T X IN AND, UH, TO C T M FOLKS AND SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT I THINK THAT IT'S SAFE TO STAY IF WE STUCK WITH THE VIDEOS AND THEN TO HAVE THEM COME IN TO DO A Q AND A, UH, IS WHAT WOULD BE MOST FEASIBLE.
BUT WE CERTAINLY WILL ASK WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
YEAH, I THINK WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA STRETCH STAFF TOO THIN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE STAFF THAT STAYS LATE FOR THESE MEETINGS, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF CAN BE COMPENSATED FOR THAT TIME, I DON'T KNOW HOW ALL THAT WORKS.
UM, BUT I, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD MAKE IT WORK AND BE FAIR TO STAFF, UM, GIVEN THAT WE ARE THE MUSIC COMMISSION MM-HMM.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL RUN THE TRAPS AND SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
ONE THING I DO WANT TO WANT TO NOTE IN REGARDS TO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IT IT, IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY
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SPEAKING, WE'RE WATCHING THE VIDEO AND WE'RE TRYING TO WATCH THE VIDEO BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, LIKE THERE'S A DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE WORLD CAN SEE A DIFFERENT SIDE THAT WE COULD SEE AND OUR SIDE'S A LITTLE BIT JUMBLED AND GARBLED AND STUFF.I MEAN, THE MUSIC'S STILL GREAT, BUT, UM, FOR THE, FOR THOSE BANDS THAT AREN'T FORTUNATE OR LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SHOT SOMETHING THAT'S PRE, I MEAN THAT STUFF'S, IT'S EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT.
AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THEM WOULD ALSO BE A PRETTY COOL MM-HMM.
IF, IF WE COULD, I MEAN NO RUSH OR ANYTHING, BUT IF WE COULD MAKE IT WORK AT SOME POINT, I'D, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY TO OF LOOKING AT VIDEO OF MUSIC PROCLAMATIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
SO WE MAY HAVE SOME VIDEO THAT IS EASIER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO, TO USE, BUT THAT'S IF THEY'VE BEEN NOMINATED FOR A PROCLAMATION BY THEIR COUNCIL.
SO, UH, JUST A LOT OF, UH, ELEMENTS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
UM, ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, IDEAS? NO.
YEAH, LET'S JUST, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO GET MORE INFO ABOUT THE LOGISTICS, SO I APPRECIATE, UM, THE MUSIC OFFICE OFF OFFERING TO LOOK INTO THAT, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE IT BACK UP.
I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO LINE PERFORMANCES, I WOULD VERY MUCH ENJOY PYROTECHNICS RIGHT HERE.
LET'S GET, LET'S GET THE KISS COVER BAND.
UM, SO ERICA, UH, UM, IF YOU COULD PLEASE ADVISE IF WE DO WANT TO GET THESE STARTED, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ASPIRATIONAL ABOUT GETTING THIS STARTED IN THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE STEPS TO GET THERE IF WE WANT TO, OR SHOULD WE CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU OFFLINE? I'LL HAVE TO, I, I, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE UP TO FOUR PEOPLE OR FIVE PEOPLE.
I THINK WE HAVE LIKE, OH, THAT'S GREAT.
10 OR 12 INPUTS, YOU KNOW, FOR MUSICIANS AND THEIR INSTRUMENTS.
BUT THERE'S A SOUND BOARD THAT HAS TO BE RUN AND THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE TO COME OUT, IT'S A BIGGER REASON WHY IT'S EASIER TO DO IT DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS IS CUZ ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE HERE AND ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS ARE ALREADY SET UP FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING.
SO MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT SOME THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, LOOKING AT A PLAZA SERIES WITH AUSTIN DOWNTOWN LIBRARY.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMEHOW THE MUSIC COMMISSION COULD CURATE LIKE ONE OF THOSE EVENTS THAT SET THE, YOU KNOW, PLAZA OVER THERE.
SO I'M TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER WAYS THAT, CUZ WE ARE GONNA BE DOING THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS WITH ATX IN, WE'RE ACTIVELY TALKING TO THE LIBRARY RIGHT NOW TO DO SOMETHING OVER THE SUMMER OR IN THE EARLY FALL.
AND SO MAYBE THAT'S A WAY WE COULD REPRESENT, YOU KNOW, A MUSICIAN OR A BAND FROM EACH DISTRICT IN ONE OF THOSE EVENTS.
YEAH, I LOVE THE IDEA OF, IT'S LIKE HERE'S THE MUSIC COMMISSION PICKS SERIES.
BECAUSE IT, IT'S GREAT FOR US, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE HAVE A VERY SYSTEMIC WAY THAT IS EQUITABLE TO KIND OF PROGRAMMED THAT, BUT IF YOU GUYS DO IT FOR US, THAT'S EVEN BETTER.
SO, UM, BEST WAY WOULD BE TO JUST GET THIS MAYBE ADDED TO NEXT TIME'S AGENDA ITEM AND YEAH, GREG IS ON AGENDA THE, HE'S LISTENING IN RIGHT NOW, SO WE WILL AND SHELBY.
AND SO WE'LL TALK IT OVER TO SEE WHEN THAT EVENT COULD BE HAPPENING CUZ GREG WOULD BE THE ONE WHO WOULD KIND OF PUT THAT BILL TOGETHER.
AND SO I'M SURE HE'D WELCOME WORKING WITH YOU GUYS AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, IT MAY NOT BE ONE EVENT BECAUSE THERE'S 11 DISTRICTS, 11 OF YOU GUYS.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS, AS AN OPTION IF WE, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL IT TOGETHER ON A MONDAY NIGHT, BUT WE CAN STILL CONTINUE THE VIDEO COMPONENTS, YOU KNOW, AND STILL DO THAT IN ADDITION TO THIS OTHER THING.
CUZ WE WERE GONNA DO IT ANYWAY.
UM, SO WE'LL, UM, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON TINY TRANSIT COMMUNITY MICRO MOBILITY AFTER PRESENTATION FROM SUSAN ENGLE KING, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER INSTITUTE FOR COMMUNITY MICRO MOBILITY.
I SENT UP SOME SLIDES IN THERE.
I ASSURE YOU THEY GO VERY FAST.
I'M THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE INSTITUTE FOR COMMUNITY MICRO MOBILITY.
UH, NO ONE PAYS ME TO BE HERE.
I'M HERE AND I'M REALLY THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO COME.
I SENT A WHITE PAPER FROM WHICH WE'RE A TINY THINK TANK, UH, TO ALL OF YOU, AND SOME OF YOU WERE INTERESTED ENOUGH TO ASK ME TO COME.
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I WILL KEEP THIS VERY BRIEF.UM, HOW DO I MOVE IT? A SLIDE, UH, TOLD ME TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
OKAY, THEY'RE GONNA GO REAL FAST.
THIS, UH, THIS IS, FIRST OF ALL, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE KINDS OF BARRIERS THAT CAN CREATE A PROTECTED INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MICRO MOBILITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT, CREATING A VIABLE VISION ZERO MOBILITY ALTERNATIVE THAT IS VERY LOW COST AND THAT CAN FOR MANY PEOPLE, ELIMINATE THE NEED TO HAVE A CAR, WHICH IS ONE OF THE GREATEST EXPENSES, UH, IN AUSTIN AND CAN BE TYPICALLY ACCORDING TO AAA.
IT'S OVER $9,000 A YEAR WHEN YOU FIGURE IN DEPRECIATION IN ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, IN ADDITION, IT DOES SOMETHING ABOUT BRINGING THE CITY INTO MORE HUMAN SCALE.
SO NOW I'M GONNA GO VERY QUICKLY THROUGH THE INFRASTRUCTURE PHOTOS SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE MEAN.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, CONCRETE OR SAND FIELD OR WATERFIELD BARRIERS.
VERY CHEAP GRAVEYARDS OF THEM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
THIS IS ALSO VERY INEXPENSIVE, A GUARDRAIL.
AND THERE ARE, UM, AS PART OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE CAN BE SMALL BRIDGES.
OKAY? I LOVE THIS PHOTOGRAPH AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT CITY IT'S FROM, BUT IT GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA OF HOW THIS CAN WORK, UH, ON A BUSY DOWNTOWN STREET.
AND AGAIN HERE YOU SEE IT'S PROTECTED BY BALLARDS THAT ARE HARD HARDENED AND, UH, THE PEDESTRIANS ARE KEPT AT SOME DISTANCE.
IN FACT, JUST EARLIER THIS EVENING, I WAS AT THE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COUNCIL IN REVIEWING SOME OF THESE PHOTOGRAPHS AND IT'S HARD NOT TO LIKE THAT ONE.
OKAY? THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
THIS HAPPENS TO BE, I TOOK THIS SHOT OF HIGHWAY 45, THE GULF FREEWAY, AND THAT IS A PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE BRIDGE OF THE TYPE OF, THAT CAN BE, UH, USED FOR MULTIPURPOSES AND TURNED INTO A MULTIPURPOSE BRIDGE.
OKAY? AND THERE TOO IS THE BRIDGE THAT'S OVER A 360 AND YOU CAN SEE HOW BAD THE TRAFFIC IS AND HOW LOVELY IT WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO GET FROM SOUTH AUSTIN TO NORTH AUSTIN, OKAY? I MEAN TO CENTRAL AUSTIN.
UH, BARRIER ARMS. DO YOU HAD ANOTHER WAY? BURY YOUR ARMS WITH CAPITAL METRO.
HERE I'M IN THE BACK OF A PETTY CAB, UM, GOING ACROSS WALLER CREEK ON A BRIDGE THAT IS ALSO MULTIPURPOSE.
AND TO SHOW YOU IT CAN BE ARTISTIC.
WE ALL KNOW THAT BRIDGE NEAR THE LIBRARY, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US COULD EVER AFFORD TO PUT IN SUCH BEAUTIFUL BALLARDS, BUT PERHAPS A LUXURY HOTEL DOWNTOWN COULD DO THAT.
YOU CAN SEE THEY CAN BE INTERESTING AND OF COURSE ALL OVER UT AND SOME OTHER UNIVERSITIES ARE RETRACTABLE BIOLOGY DON'T EVEN SEE MOST OF THE TIME.
AND YOU THINK ABOUT THE SIGNAGE WITH, UH, A, AN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MICRO MOBILITY BEING REALLY TAILORED TO IT.
OKAY, NEXT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU, UH, THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF MODES THAT COULD BE, UM, ON THIS KIND OF AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTED.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS, I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU, THIS IS A DISRUPTIVE IDEA AND YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS.
YOU'VE SEEN PEOPLE WALKING ON THE TRAIL THAT'S DIFFERENT.
YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE BICYCLES, ELECTRIC BICYCLES, SCOOTERS, GOLF CARTS, UM, AND UNUSUAL ONE WHEEL VEHICLES.
AND THAT PARTICULAR ONE I TOOK MOST OF THESE SHOTS, UH, IS A STUDENT OUTSIDE OF ACC WHERE I WORK, WHO IS RIDING A FOLDABLE ELECTRIC BIKE THAT HE CAN THEN PUT ON THE LIGHT RAIL STATION IF THEY ON THE RED LINE WHEN HE GETS ACROSS THE STREET THERE, OKAY? UH, THAT'S A SHOT FROM UH, LIGHT RAIL IN DALLAS THAT SHOWS YOU HOW, UM, IF YOU COMBINE A PROTECTED NETWORK FOR MICRO MOBILITY AND MAKE IT SAFE TO GET TO, UH, THE TRANSISTOR, UH, CENTERS THAT ARE PLANNED WITH LIGHT RAIL, WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
UH, THAT'S A SHOT IN CALIFORNIA, DIFFERENT KIND OF VEHICLE.
THIS IS THE TESLA OF PETTY CABS.
IT'S MADE RIGHT HERE IN AUSTIN BY A COMPANY CALLED MOVEMENT BY CAB.
SOME OF YOU'RE SMILING CUZ YOU MAY KNOW THIS COMPANY.
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AND THAT'S AN AUSTIN PRODUCT.THIS I TOOK THE VERY FIRST DAY, THE SCOOTERS LANDED, AND I AM NOT PRO SCOOTER, BUT WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SHOW US THAT IF YOU PROVIDE AN INEXPENSIVE ALTERNATIVE FOR PEOPLE, MANY PEOPLE WILL USE IT.
AND THERE ARE NOW THREE MIL OVER 3 MILLION TRIPS A YEAR ON, ON DOCKLESS SCOOTERS.
AND WHILE WE KNOW THERE ARE MANY OTHER KINDS OF VEHICLES, UM, BICYCLES, ELECTRIC BIKES, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING, THAT ONE WE CAN MEASURE.
THAT'S A GOLF CART IN ROLLINGWOOD.
UM, WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE IT LEGAL TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE GOLF CART IN ROLLINGWOOD.
THIS IS A SHOT AT MILLER AND THIS MAN BOUGHT THIS TRICYCLE FROM COPENHAGEN, HAD IT SHIPPED OVER, AND HE DRIVES AROUND SHUT-INS IN MUELLER TO, UH, LIGHTEN THEIR LIVES.
UH, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A VERY SMALL UTILITARIAN NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE THAT'S AT UT USED FOR THEIR GROUNDS, OKAY? ANOTHER KIND OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE, OKAY? AND HERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ELECTRIC VEHICLE THAT'S A SHUTTLE AND IS ACTUALLY SURPRISINGLY COMFORTABLE FOR BEING REALLY VERY SMALL AND ENTIRELY ELECTRIC.
OKAY? SO THE REASON THAT I'M HERE AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS THIS REALLY DOES SOMETHING FOR AUSTIN IN TERMS OF REINTRODUCING KIND OF A HUMAN SCALE AND A MORE AFFORDABLE SCALE AND A LOWER STRESS WAY OF LIVING THAT MANY OF US WHO LIVED IN AUSTIN A. LONG TIME MISS.
WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS AND WHAT IT CAN DO IS, I, I USE QUOTE IN OUR LIFETIMES, PLEASE LET US NOT PLAN ANY MORE LARGE INVESTMENTS THAT REALLY AREN'T GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIMES.
IT MAKES AUSTIN MORE AFFORDABLE, MORE LIVABLE, MORE WALKABLE, LESS STRESSFUL, MAKES IT UNNECESSARY TO OWN A CAR.
AND WE ACTUALLY, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SO MANY THINGS TONIGHT.
PARKING, UH, THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE DON'T CONSIDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF IT REQUIRES YOU TO OWN A CAR.
UH, THIS COULD MEAN VENUES LEAD LES PARK, YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
UH, IT IS A VISION ZERO MOBILITY ALTERNATIVE WITH NO COMPROMISES ON SAFETY.
AND IT BRINGS A FIRST, LAST MILE SOLUTION TO PROJECT CONNECT THAT IS CURRENTLY IT NEEDS THIS AND IT CAN SAVE PEOPLE NOT JUST A MARGINAL COST OF LIVING, BUT LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR.
THE AVERAGE, UH, HOUSEHOLD IS SPENDING OVER 20% OF US INCOME ON TRANSPORTATION.
AND THIS CAN BE DONE IN A FRACTION OF THAT, OKAY? AND THIS, THE WAY THIS IS POSSIBLE IS DISRUPTION.
THAT'S HOW I'D CHARACTERIZE MYSELF.
THIS DISRUPTS MOBILITY, IT DISRUPTS INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT DISRUPTS SO MANY THINGS BETTER AND VERY HELPFUL AND PROBABLY GENTLE DISRUPTION.
OKAY? AND THIS IS REALLY AT THE CORE OF HOW WE CAN DO THIS QUICKLY.
THE SOLUTION IS LITERALLY RIGHT IN FRONT OF US IF WE WILL JUST SEE IT.
IF YOU TAKE THE VAST NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE BOATING WITH THEIR WHEELS AND THEIR FEET AND SHOWING US THAT THEY WANT TO GET AROUND THE CITY LESS EXTENSIVELY, THEY CONCLUDE IT TOGETHER BETWEEN SHARED RIDES AND FRIENDS AND SCOOTERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BICYCLES AND, UH, WALKING AND THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND THEY'RE SHOWING US THE DEMAND.
NOW PUT THAT TOGETHER WITH THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS GONE ON IN AUSTIN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
I HAVE A LIST IN THIS BOOK I JUST JOTTED DOWN OF THE MANY, MANY PROJECTS IN WHICH THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AT THE DEVELOPER'S COST AND THE DEVELOPER WOULD'VE BEEN HAPPY TO DO IT.
BUT WE HAVE NO FORMAT FOR DOING THAT.
BUT IF YOU TAKE WHAT WE KNOW IS THE DEMAND, AND WE CAN PROJECT THAT ONCE YOU MAKE THIS KIND OF MOBILITY SAFE, IT MULTIPLIES THE DEMAND.
THERE'S A GROUP CALLED CITY BEAUTIFUL THAT HAS REALLY PROVEN THAT, THAT IT HAS TO DO WITH THE RISK.
THAT'S JUST PART OF OUR PSYCHOLOGY.
BUT ONLY 10 TO 15% OF PEOPLE WILL RIDE A BIKE IN A PLACE THAT THEY FEEL THEY ARE UNSAFE.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, MOST STREETS AND AUSTIN ARE UNSAFE, BUT YOU CREATE THIS THEN THIS MOBILITY OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AN INFRASTRUCTURE IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTORS.
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UM, AND YOU MIGHT THINK, WELL, HOW DO WE GET THIS STARTED? JUST BEFORE THE PANDEMIC I WAS CONSULTING WITH THE CITY OF KYLE.WE MET WITH THEIR CITY COUNCIL.
THEY PULLED IN TEXTILE, WE MET WITH THEIR CITY MANAGER AND THEIR STAFF.
AND ALL OF THESE FOLKS, INCLUDING PROBABLY THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON BEING MANAGER OF STORM WATER DRAINAGE, WHO SEES EVERY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION COME IN INTO KYLE.
AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY FLEW A FEW OF THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL THE WAY TO THE PLACE WE SUGGESTED PEACHTREE CITY, GEORGIA, WHERE THERE ARE 8,000 GOLF CARTS IN A PLANNED COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, WHERE KIDS RIDE THEM EVERYWHERE.
THEY HAVE 110 MILES OF MULTI-USE PATHS.
THEY FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT VERY INEXPENSIVELY.
THEY DESIGNED IT INTO THEIR CITY.
IT'S CONSIDERED ONE OF THE 20 MOST LIVABLE CITIES IN THE COUNTRY BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
KYLE WENT OUT THERE, THEY CAME BACK, THEY DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR, AND THEY ARE NOW DEVELOPING AN 80.
UH, LET'S SEE, I'M GONNA THINK ABOUT MY MILES ON THAT.
UM, I DON'T WANNA TELL YOU THE MILEAGE CUZ I'VE COME, IT'S NOT RIGHT IN MY MIND RIGHT NOW.
BUT, UM, THEY'RE DEVELOPING A, A NETWORK OF THESE MULTI-USE TRAILS THROUGHOUT KYLE, WHERE THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE GOLF CARTS, STREET LEGAL TO CONNECT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF KYLE.
AND THEY'RE REQUIRING THAT THIS BE INCLUDED IN ALL NEW SUBDIVISIONS.
I I WANNA TELL YOU THAT I HAVE WORKED ON THIS CONCEPT FOR A LONG TIME AND AFTER A WHILE I JUST KIND OF GAVE UP GETTING IT TO HAPPEN IN AUSTIN.
MY, I JUST, IT'S TOO DIFFICULT.
DURING THE PAN, JUST BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, I THOUGHT, I'M JUST GONNA TRY OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE, I WAS PLANNING TO GO.
I HAD BEEN BOOKED AT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST ORG ORDERING, UM, ORGANIZING PANEL AND THEN THE PANDEMIC HIT.
AND THEN I THOUGHT, WELL, WHAT IF WE JUST GO TO THE CITIES AROUND AUSTIN? AND THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED DOING.
AND THAT IS WHERE IT CAN TAKE ROOT.
I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IN AUSTIN IS VERY IMPORTANT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO PREVENT THESE CATASTROPHIC FINANCIAL EVENTS LIKE LOSING A BREADWINNER IN A CAR WRECK OR HAVING SOMEONE WITH LIFE ALTERING INJURIES.
AND THESE ARE JUST MASSIVELY HAPPENING.
YOU'RE IN THE YEARS, IF PEOPLE DIED ANY OTHER WAY IN THIS CITY, WE WOULDN'T TOLERATE IT.
AND ONE OF THOSE EVENTS, UH, THESE DON'T FIGURE INTO THE COST OF LIVING, BUT IF IT HAPPENS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY OR ANYONE YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE PLUNGED INTO POVERTY ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
YOU CAN BE FORCED INTO BANKRUPTCY.
THE MEDICAL DEATH THAT YOU WILL INCUR WILL FORCED YOU IN, WHICH IS 66% OF ALL BANKRUPTCIES, PERSONAL BANKRUPTCIES ARE OVER.
MEDICAL DEBT IS THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE.
SO THERE ARE JUST SO MANY, MANY HUMANITARIAN REASONS TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
BUT IT ALSO IS JUST REALLY GENTLE.
AND I'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN A. LONG TIME.
I WAS AT THE ARMADILLO WORLD HEADQUARTERS,
I, I LOVED THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE INVOLVED IN IT.
AND, AND I THROW THIS IN ONLY BECAUSE AT SOME POINT YEARS FROM NOW, YOUR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN OR GRAND NIECES OR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, WHAT DID YOU DO ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE? AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO.
AND IT JUST, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT IT, IT IS STUNNING.
BUT A CONVENTIONAL VEHICLE EMITS 4.6 METRIC TONS OF CARBON EACH YEAR.
AND THE MODES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GO BETWEEN NONE AND, AND VERY, VERY LITTLE ABOUT AS MUCH AS TO RUN YOUR REFRIGERATOR.
OKAY? OKAY? I TAKE PICTURES LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR OUR STREETS TO BE SO DEADLY.
THIS IS MY SON WHEN HE WAS HIT BY AFTER HE WAS HIT BY A CAR WHILE HE WAS CROSSING BARTON SPRINGS ROAD IN THE YEAR 2018 AND HE SURVIVED.
UM, THERE AS MUCH I COULD TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT PICTURE SAYS HOW GRATEFUL I AM IS ALIVE.
HE WAS NOT, HE USED TO BE A RUNNER.
UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FOLLOW UP MEDICAL CARE.
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HAPPEN TO A KID.HE WAS WITHIN THE LAW, HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I FOUGHT LIKE CRAZY TO GET THAT PARTICULAR, WHAT IT'S CALLED, AN UNCONTROLLED CROSSWALK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET WITH NO SIGNAL ON BARTON SPRINGS.
AND A DRIVER WAVED, WAVED HIM THROUGH WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE.
BUT JUST KNOW THAT I DON'T TAKE IT CASUALLY AND SAY, OH, EVERYONE SHOULD RIDE THEIR BIKE IN AUSTIN.
OKAY? AND THIS JUST SHOWS YOU WHY LOW SPEED, LOW EMISSION, LOW COST, LOW STRESS TRANSPORTATION IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.
THE SPEED ALONE MAKES IT SAFER, OKAY? AND I, I WON'T TAKE YOU DEEPLY INTO THIS SLIDE, DON'T WORRY.
I JUST WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO ONE THING THAT IS THE RED SIDE REPRESENTS HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE OF THIS NATURE, MICRO MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE WE CAN BUILD.
IF WE PROCEED THE WAY WE ALWAYS DO THINGS IN AUSTIN, WHICH IS WE GO AND ROUND UP EVERYBODY GETS AN OPINION, IT TAKES THREE YEARS, THEN YOU DEVELOP A BOND PROPOSAL, THEN YOU WAIT UNTIL THE RIGHT TIME TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, THEN IT PASSES OR IT DOESN'T PASS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO AND RECOS OUT EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST PUT ON THE BOND ISSUE BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THAT WAS DEVELOPED.
AND YOU WOULD BE LUCKY IF WE STARTED IN THE YEAR 2023, IF THERE IS SOMETHING ON THE GROUND IN 2029 THAT'S TOO LONG.
THAT'S WHY I WRITE IN OUR LIFETIMES.
UM, I DID THIS PROFORMA JUST TO SEE HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO GET A BILLION DOLLAR INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT THE CITY SPENDING A BILLION DOLLARS, I MEAN A BILLION DOLLARS IN VALUE.
OKAY? SOME PEOPLE SAY, THIS IS REALLY TOO HARD TO DO.
THIS IS AUSTIN, THIS IS AMERICA, AND SO ON.
UM, FIRST I WANNA SAY THAT I TALKED TO AMONG THE MANY, MANY PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, A TOP CAR DEALER, FAMILY OWNED CAR DEALERSHIP HERE IN AUSTIN.
AND WHEN I ASKED WHAT HE THOUGHT OF THIS CONCEPT, HAVING SHOWN IT TO HIM, HE SAID, UM, SUSAN, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, OR WE WILL, OR THE PROPERTY, TEXAS WILL KILL OUR CITY.
YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED AT HOW BROADLY APPEALING THIS IS EVEN TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE FOUGHT LIGHT RAIL.
PEOPLE DO UNDERSTAND THIS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S HUMAN SCALE AND WE'VE ALL DONE SOME OF THESE MODES.
UM, BUT I WOULD ALSO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS.
WE HAVE DONE THINGS SO MUCH HARDER THAN THIS.
UM, TAKE YOU BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE LAST CENTURY OR 19 0 2, 19 0 5.
UM, WHEN THERE WERE VERY FEW CARS, JUST SMATTERING OF CARS.
THERE WERE VIRTUALLY NO SURFACE PAVED ROADS.
THERE WERE NO GAS STATIONS, THERE WERE NO MECHANICS, NO ONE KNEW HOW TO DRIVE.
AND WITHIN 20 YEARS, THE CARS ACCOUNTED FOR 95% OF ALL TRIPS TAKEN IN THIS COUNTRY.
THAT WAS AT A TIME WHEN EVERYTHING'S MOVED MUCH MORE SLOWLY.
SO I THINK THIS IS A CHALLENGE WE SHOULD AND MUST ACCEPT.
AND THE REASON I'M HERE WITH YOU, AND I'M REALLY GLAD IS THAT YOU ALL, EACH OF YOU REPRESENTS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS.
YOU WERE APPOINTED BY A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
IF I CALL THE COUNCIL OFFICE, AND I'VE GOTTEN A NUMBER OF APPOINTMENTS.
I'VE TALKED TO PAY JEALOUS, UM, VIA ZOOM.
UH, MET WITH CHEETO'S AIDE TIMOTHY IN THE PAST WEEK.
UH, SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CONTEXTS, BUT WHAT WE HAVE NOW TO ACCELERATE, THIS IS A DRAFT OF TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT.
UM, I'M RUNNING THEM PAST ONE MORE PERSON ON STAFF, CITY STAFF THAT I WAS ADVISED TO HAVE.
BUT I'D LIKE TO SEND THOSE TO YOU BECAUSE THERE ARE PARTS OF IT THAT I THINK REALLY ARE WITHIN YOUR SCOPE.
THE NEED FOR AFFORDABILITY, THE NEED FOR VENUES NOT HAVING TO HAVE GIANT PARKING, UH, COMMITTED, UH, WHICH JUST DRIVES UP THE COST.
UH, THE NEED TO HAVE A SAFER, KINDER, MORE HUMAN SCALE CITY.
UM, AND FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, TO RETHINK IT AROUND THE AVAILABILITY AND ACCESS TO AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT LETS PEOPLE GO PLACES GETS TO TRANSIT.
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SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT MY, UH, WHITE PAPER ON THIS.THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME HERE.
I LOVE WHAT YOU DO AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.
AND ALSO HAPPY JUST TO WALK AWAY FROM THE PODIUM.
UM, UH, IT'S, IT'S AMAZING TO, UM, SEE AND HEAR THE PASSION THAT YOU HAVE, UH, ON THIS TOPIC.
UH, I WOULD OPEN IT UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER SIERRA, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, UH, STAYING FOR A BIT.
UH, SO I THINK, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS WORKING ON A LOT OF THINGS LIKE VISION ZERO.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO A LOT OF MOBILITY WORK.
SO I DO THINK THAT THIS BRINGS TOGETHER A LOT OF IDEAS AND THAT HAVE BEEN, IT, IT, IT'S LIKE A, A MEETING POINT FOR A, A LOT OF A GOOD SOLUTION FOR A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED FOR MUSIC.
UM, I DO SEE THIS IS LAST MILE TRANSPORTATION TO THE VENUE.
UH, THAT COULD ALSO BE FOR MUSICIANS.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT PARKING PROBLEMS IN A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THE CITY HAS JUST VOTED TO ELIMINATE PARKING MINIMUMS. SO THIS IS DEFINITELY GERMANE TO THAT ARGUMENT.
UM, SO I, I SUPPORT ALL OF THIS.
I DO SEE THAT, THAT IT'S LIKE HOW THE IMPLEMENTATION IS GONNA COME ABOUT IS, IS CHALLENGING.
WELL, I THINK, THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, IF THEY, ANY WAIVER ON PARKING SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE ACCOMPANIED BY, UH, REQUIRING THAT THE, THIS INFRASTRUCTURE BE BUILT OUT WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A DISASTER TO TAKE AWAY PARKING AND NOT HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE.
BY THE WAY, I DON'T THINK DEVELOPERS OPPOSED TO THIS, THE ONES I'VE TALKED TO ARE INTERESTED IN IT, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A VISION WITHIN THE CITY AND IT HAS TO FIT INTO WHAT THE CITY OF BOSTON WANTS.
UM, SOME HAVE BEEN STIFLED ON TRYING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
UM, SO, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
THIS IS JUST A NATURAL FOR, YOU'VE GOT WALK BY ROLL, YOU'VE GOT PROJECT CONNECT, YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THESE THINGS.
AND THIS CREATES, WE THINK IT CAN ACCOUNT FOR 20% OF THE TRIPS WITHIN AUSTIN, UM, WHEN IT'S BUILT OUT.
AND DO I HOW DO I SAY IT HAPPENING? UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING, AS PART OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS THAT THERE BE A, UH, DEMONSTRATION WITHIN EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO AND EXPERIENCE IT AND DRIVE SMALL VEHICLES AND SEE WHAT'S MEANT BY PROTECTED.
UM, AND I THINK IT WILL CATCH ON FIRE.
I'VE DONE, I DID A TWO HOUR DEMONSTRATION IN, AT DALLAS CITY HALL ONE DAY, AND IT WAS PHENOMENAL.
SO, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING REALLY SET UP THAT EVERYONE CAN COME AND SEE AND TOUCH, AND I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO GET TRUE REACTIONS, YOU KNOW, REAL MARKET RESEARCH.
SO AS A COMMISSION, IT'S NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO SAY LIKE, OH, THIS SHOULD BE A BOND PROJECT, OR, OH, THIS SHOULD BE A, A, A DEVELOPER ENTITLEMENTS RIGHT THING.
BUT WHAT, SO WHAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO SEE IS WHEN, UH, IN IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE WORKING WITH COUNCIL OFFICES ONCE YOU DO HAVE A DRAFT RESOLUTION OR A PAIR OF DRAFT RESOLUTIONS, IF THEY'RE NOT COMPETING RESOLUTIONS, IF YOU CAN FORWARD THAT TO US, THEN WE CAN TAKE THAT UP AT A FUTURE COMMISSION MEETING AND, AND VOTE, UH, TO, TO RECOMMEND COUNCIL SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
AND JUST WHATEVER, UH, WITH WHATEVER IS IN YOUR SCOPE.
UM, AND I SHOULD MENTION, ONE OF THE RESOLUTIONS HAS TO DO WITH DECLARING A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, WHICH IS WHAT WE NOW HAVE, AND THE OTHER HAS TO DO WITH DECLARING A MOBILITY OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS HOW WE SEE IT.
SO PROCESS WISE, UM, THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY SEE THIS AS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I MEAN, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES LIKE WITH THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT WHERE THERE IS, LIKE, THAT'S A HUGE DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR DEVELOPERS TO, TO BE SORT OF THE FIRST, THE FIRST ONES TO EMBRACE THIS.
UM, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE, I MEAN, THEY'LL BE BUILDING OUT BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
SO IN INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MICRO MOBILITY, THERE IS A STRONG POSSIBILITY.
BUT, UM, WE ALSO KNOW, LIKE WE'VE SEEN ALL AROUND TOWN, THE 2018 MOBILITY BOND HAS, UM, THERE'S BEEN SIDEWALKS GOING EVERYWHERE.
SO THIS COULD BE A FUTURE BOND PROJECT WHERE THERE'S MICRO MOBILITY LANES.
AND I DO THINK THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AS FAR AS THE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE SCOOTERS, UM, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO PROVIDE THE MODES, WHETHER IT'S SHUTTLES OR, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF THAT
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WOULD HAVE TO BE REGULATED.UM, BUT YEAH, SO I THINK IT CAN ALL HAPPEN.
SO JUST ASK, TELL, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED LIKE THE SPECIFICS TO SUPPORT AS A BODY.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BAXTON.
AND I ALWAYS, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, KNOWLEDGE BEYOND, BEYOND MUSIC ABOUT MOBILITY AND AFFORDABILITY ISSUES, AND, UH, YOU EDUCATING US ON SOME OF THAT.
SO, UH,
UM, ANY, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER, UH, STRICKLAND? I, I DO, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE.
SO, SO I GUESS IF THERE WAS LIKE A MAGIC WAND KIND OF THING, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE, I GUESS, UH, TWO OR THREE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? UM, JUST NOT EVEN FROM THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD BE PASSING THE COUNCIL, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF THE OVERALL PLAN IN TERMS OF MICRO MOBILITY? I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO MAKE A DECISION AND DECIDE THAT IT WANTS TO DEVELOP AN ALTERNATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE.
OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT, AND JUST TO MAKE THAT DECISION, THEN IT CAN BE FIT IN A NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, ORDINANCE AND CODES ATTACHED TO THAT WHITE PAPER, FOR EXAMPLE, AS A 170 WORD ORDINANCE LIFTED STRAIGHT FROM PEACHTREE CITY THAT SAYS, YOU MUST INCORPORATE THIS IN ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
AND THEN, UH, I, I DO THINK THE DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS WOULD CREATE THE EXCITEMENT AND MAGIC.
IT'S HARD TO VISUALIZE OTHERWISE.
UM, AND THEN THIRDLY, I DO THINK WE NEED TO DECLARE A PUBLIC SAFETY CRISIS, AND PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS RESPONDS TO THAT BY CREATING AT LEAST ONE ALTERNATIVE WAY TO GO PLACES WHERE YOU DON'T GET KILLED.
UH, I HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
I GUESS, HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THIS? NO, BUT I'VE SENT THEM ALL INFORMATION, THE SAME INFORMATION THAT I SENT TO YOU ALL.
AND THERE'S ONE MEMBER, UH, CONNOLLY, WHO'S OKAY.
WHO I KEEP BRUSHING AGAINST HIM, UH, OUT THERE.
UM, THAT'S HOPEFULLY IF THEY DON'T INVITE ME TO COME AS YOU DID, I WILL GO ON CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THEM ABOUT THIS? I HAVEN'T, BUT I ALSO SENT THINGS TO THEM.
I DO WANNA MENTION THAT DE PEER IN THE DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE, ALSO ALLIANCE MM-HMM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. STRICKLAND.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FOR SUSAN ONLINE? I GET, I'LL, I'LL JUST CHIME IN FROM BEING A NATIVE AUSTINITE, YOU KNOW, AND SEEING AUSTIN DEVELOP.
UM, ONE, UH, PAIN POINT THAT I HAVE IS, UM, WITH, ON SOUTH CONGRESS AND JUST HOW SOUTH CONGRESS HAS GROWN SO MUCH PAST BEN WHITE OR 71 THERE, AND THERE'S, AND THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH AUSTIN THAT NEEDS TO CONNECT WITH NORTH AUSTIN AROUND THE BEN WHITE, I CAN REALLY SEE ONE OF THOSE BRIDGES, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT, UM, PEDESTRIAN BIKE ACTIVITY.
UM, SO ANYWAY, I'M SURE YOU SEE IT ALL OVER THE CITY AND IT, IT IS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, EUROPE HAS DONE A BETTER JOB OF, UM, INCORPORATING SOME ECO-FRIENDLY, HUMAN-FRIENDLY HUMAN SCALE, UM, MODES OF TRANSPORTATION THAT IN TURN JUST MAKE US A HELP A HEALTHIER PEOPLE.
SUSAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, COMING IN, PRESENTING THIS.
UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE, UH, DRAFTS OF THE RESOLUTIONS AND WE'LL, UH, ATTEMPT TO TAKE IT FORWARD FROM THERE.
[8. Discussion and possible action on musician parking, loading, and unloading following presentation by Jason Redfern, Parking Enterprise Manager, Parking Enterprise, Austin Transportation Department.]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSICIAN PARKING, LOADING AND UNLOADING, FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY JASON REDFIN, PARKING ENTERPRISE MANAGER, PARKING ENTERPRISE, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.UM, SCOTT, UH, THIS WAS KIND OF INITIALLY PURSUED BY YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, UPDATES ON THIS? I KNOW JASON, UH, REDFIN DID, UH, UH, INFORM US THAT HE WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO COME IN ON, UH, UH, TO PRESENT TODAY.
AND, AND, UH, I, I DID, UH, SORT OF MISREAD THE EMAIL.
I JUST, I JUST SAW THAT HE WASN'T COMING AND I DIDN'T, UM, GO ANY, UH, FURTHER WITH IT.
THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN, THIS HAS BEEN AN ITEM OF DISCUSSION SINCE, SINCE LAST NOVEMBER.
UM, I, I, I WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT KNOWN.
AND THE IDEA, UH, BEHIND THIS IS THAT WE PROVIDE PARK, UH, FREE PARKING OR SUBSIDIZED PARKING FOR MUSICIANS, UM, THAT ARE IN, UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND ARE, AND ARE PLAYING SHOWS WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
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TWO WEEKS AGO, I DID, UH, SPEAK TO, UH, KELLY VAR.SHE IS A SENIOR, SENIOR PLANNING, UM, PERSON WITH THE, UH, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, UM, IDEAS AND THINGS THAT WERE, THAT, THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT.
AGAIN, THESE WERE JUST IDEAS, UM, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING, YOU KNOW, SORT OF CONCRETED.
WE KIND OF LEFT IT THERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE OF A DISCUSSION WHEN HE WAS HERE, AND THEN HE WASN'T HERE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DIALOGUE IS CONTINUING.
UH, IT'S, IT'S, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.
AND, UM, I, I WOULD HOPE, UM, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT COULD, YOU KNOW, COME AND, UM, DELIVER SOME, SOME, SOME MORE NEWS SPECIFICALLY ON, UM, SUBSIDIZING PARKING FOR MUSICIANS.
UM, PAYING GI GIVING MUSICIANS AN OPTION TO PARK FOR FREE DURING THEIR SHOW, NOT JUST UNLOADING, LOADING AND UNLOADING, THAT'S ALREADY FREE.
THEY GET 30 FREE MINUTES, BUT ACTUALLY HAVING A DESIGNATED SPACE TO PARK.
AND PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT IS, IF YOU ARE PLAYING AT A VENUE ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN ON A WEEKEND NIGHT, IT COSTS $20, UM, MINIMUM TO PARK, UM, JUST TO GO IN AND PLAY THE GIG THAT YOU'RE GOING TO P PLAY.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH OUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE A FIFTH OF YOUR MONEY, A 30 OF YOUR MONEY OR WHATEVER IT IS, UM, MINUS TIPS OR WHATEVER BEFORE YOU EVEN GET THE DOOR.
AND MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY OF THE MUSICIANS THAT, UM, THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THAT WE HAVE, UH, TALKED TO, UM, I, I AM THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR OF BOSTON, TEXAS MUSICIANS.
AND SO MY ROLE IS KIND OF EXPANDING IN THAT, IN THAT CAPACITY AS A, IS A NON-PAID, UM, ROLE AT THE MOMENT.
AND, UM, A NUMBER OF MUSICIANS HAVE, HAVE, HAVE FLAT OUT SAID THAT THEY WILL JUST PARK IT LEGALLY AND CHANCE, UM, NOT, AND, AND CHANCE NOT GETTING A TICKET VERSUS ACTUALLY PAYING THE FEE.
AND I'M NOT GONNA LIE, I'VE DONE THAT TOO.
SO, UM, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO, TO, TO, UM, TO, UM, UH, JUST GET SOME REPRESENTATION, UM, FROM THE CITY ON, ON, ON, ON THIS ISSUE, IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.
IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO ON THE AGENDA, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT.
UM, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO, UM, HAVE SOME PEOPLE SPEAK ON IT.
AND THERE WAS THE, THE, THE COMMUNICATION, UM, UH, THAT WAS SENT OVER, UM, WAS SPECIFICALLY ON, YOU KNOW, MR. REDFORD WAS ASKING, WHAT CAN WE DO, UM, THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE ALREADY SINCE LAST NOVEMBER? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS, WHERE'S OUR FREE PARKING? SO I'M GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISS PATTERSON.
YEAH, I, I DEFINITELY CONCUR WITH THAT.
UM, I MEAN, I'M PART OF A MUSIC, I'M A DANCER, BUT WE'VE, I'M PART OF AUSTIN SAMBA, WHICH IS A REALLY LARGE GROUP, AND WHEN WE'VE HAD EVENTS DOWNTOWN, WE'VE LITERALLY JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT COST LIKE $5 AN HOUR TO PARK, OR YOU MIGHT JUST, SINCE WE'LL BE DOWN HERE FOR SIX HOURS, YOU MIGHT JUST CHANCE THE TICKET
THAT'S NOT, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT THIS IS, IS LIKE AN OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN FLOATED AROUND BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO EXPENSIVE.
AND PEOPLE HAVE DRONES AND COSTUME BAGS.
SO THERE IS PARKING THAT CITY OF AUSTIN PARKING, AND THERE'S AN APP, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU PAY THROUGH.
SO IF THERE COULD BE, TO ME THAT MAYBE THIS IS AN IT ISSUE WHERE, YOU KNOW, MUSICIANS CAN APPLY AND RECEIVE A CODE THAT THEY INPUT, AND SO THEIR PARKING FEES ARE WAIVED, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME PILOT PROGRAM.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT.
UM, ALSO THE AFFORDABLE PARKING PROGRAM.
I'D LOVE TO SEE THE FEASIBILITY OF A, OF A PASS THAT MUSICIANS CAN USE AT ALL OF THE GARAGES INSTEAD OF JUST A SINGLE GARAGE, BECAUSE GIGS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S TWO IDEAS, UH, FROM THIS COMMISSION.
BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION EXPERTS, SO WE'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE STAFF COME BACK TO US WITH SOME FEASIBLE SOLUTIONS ON THAT.
UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO THINK SAY ON THAT.
UM, ONE SIDE NOTE WITHIN THE PARKING, UM, DILEMMA, UH, THAT I HAD BRIEFLY MENTIONED TO SCOTT, UM, THAT I'D LOVE ON THE RECORD OR WHATEVER, IS, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS PRODUCING THE AUSTIN MUSIC AWARDS AND, UH, MOODY THEATER, UM, OR A C L LIVE WAS PACKED.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO FORGE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A RIDE SHARE COMPANY, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UM, UH, FREE, UM, SERVICE FOR, UM, HONOREES AND NOMINEES.
UM, AND SO I WONDER IF WE COULD OPEN BACK UP THAT KIND OF CONVERSATION WITH LIKE A, A LYFT OR AN UBER, AND, UM, AND THEN
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PERHAPS MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE LIKE A SPECIAL SPONSORSHIP AT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, CITY VENUES OR, OR ANOTHER KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE THREE MOODYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE THERE'S, UM, SOME KIND OF SPONSORSHIP ARRANGEMENT OR THERE'S LIKE V I P BOX OR SOMETHING WHERE I, IT SEEMS LIKE SO MANY FOLKS ARE INVESTED IN SOLVING THIS ISSUE, BUT MAYBE WE CAN THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND, UM, MOVE THAT ALONG.I KNOW THEY'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, SO, UM, NOT GETTING ANY SMALLER AROUND HERE, THAT'S FOR SURE.
SO, JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE REAL QUICK ON THIS STAFF SIDE.
UM, YEAH, SO JASON REDFORD WANTED TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN I HELP SO THAT HE COULD BE PREPARED WITH AN ANSWER WHEN HE DOES COME.
ONE THING THAT WE DO KNOW THAT WILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED IS FINDING BUDGET OF FUNDING TO PAY FOR ANY, UM, GRATIS PARKING OR COMPED PARKING, BECAUSE THAT ANY OF THE MONEY THAT'S ACTUALLY EARNED FROM CITY OF AUSTIN PARKING SPACES OR PARKING GARAGES ACTUALLY IS A LINE ITEM AND A BUDGET THAT HAS AN EXPENSE ATTACHED TO IT.
SO IT'S PAYING FOR OTHER THINGS.
SO IF WE WERE TO LOOK INTO SOME KIND OF GRATIS OR COMP SITUATION, WE'LL HAVE TO FIND A BUDGET FOR IT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND WITH THE NEXT BUDGET, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT'S CONSIDERED AS A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
UH, BUT THE, IT WOULD BE THE FUNDING AND IT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL AMOUNT THAT WOULD PROBABLY GET, YOU KNOW, USED PRETTY QUICKLY IF UTILIZED WELL.
SO IT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL COST TO COVER THE COST OF THE ACTUAL PARKING SO THAT IT COVERS THE BUDGETS ELSEWHERE, BUT ALSO THE FACILITATION, LIKE WITH PARK ATX, IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF THING WITH CTM OF BEING ABLE TO PROGRAM IN A, A CODE FOR ELIGIBLE MUSICIANS, UM, HOW DO WE DO THAT? WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES? WHAT ARE THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS? WHAT CITY DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY FACILITATING THAT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT GO INTO A SITUATION, BUT CELESTE MAKES A GREAT POINT.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RIDE SHARING COMPANIES, THERE USED TO BE THESE DISCOUNTS THAT YOU WOULD GET FOR EVENTS THAT WOULD BE LIKE, OH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO THIS EVENT, YOU KNOW, ORDER YOUR, YOUR CAR AND PUT IN THIS DISCOUNT CODE.
AND THAT WAS FACILITATED BY THE RIDE SHARE COMPANIES.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY BE LIKE A, AN OUT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CAN'T REALLY MAKE THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, BUT AS A COMMISSION, YOU GUYS CERTAINLY CAN ASK LYFT OR ANY OF THESE, UH, OTHER COMPANIES TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT THEY THINK.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MARKETING OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM.
SO IT JUST DEPENDS WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE THE BUDGET TO DO IT.
THERE WAS A TIME BACK IN THE DAY WHERE THEY WERE JUST PROMOTING THESE RIDE SHARE COMPANIES, SO IT WAS MORE COMMON TO HAVE THAT BENEFIT TO FIND A, A DISCOUNT.
I, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT AS OFTEN NOW WITH MAJOR EVENTS, BUT WHO KNOWS? SO I THINK THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO ON THE CORPORATE SIDE, THERE COULD BE A FOUNDATION GRANT THAT GOES TO PAYING FOR SOMETHING AS WELL.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE CITY, WITH THE WAY OUR BUDGET REALITIES ARE GOING INTO THE NEXT FEW YEARS, UM, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A CONCERTED EFFORT OF ADVOCATING FOR THIS WITH COUNCIL TO FIND THE MONEY AND TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S GONNA FACILITATE IT, JUST TO KIND OF SET YOU GUYS UP WITH THE REALITY OF WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO GET IT DONE.
QUESTION, UH, YEAH, SO THAT, THANK YOU FOR, UM, REMINDING US THAT EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY.
AND SO IF PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION CAN COME BACK TO US WITH SOME NUMBERS ON THAT, AND, AND AGAIN, I WOULD START WITH THIS A PILOT PROGRAM.
WITH THIS PROGRAM FOR, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS AND WE SEE HOW IT GOES.
UM, ALSO, I, I MEAN, I LOVE THE IDEA OF BRINGING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR THIS.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT, THAT AGAIN, CAN START WITH SMALLER EVENTS LIKE CITY EVENTS, AND WE CAN BE LIKE MM-HMM.
HEY, SPONSORED BY LYFT, OR MAYBE A GROUP OF VENUES COULD GET TOGETHER AND, AND HATCH A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RIDE SHARE COMPANIES FOR THAT.
THAT IS KIND OF OVER MY HEAD OF HOW TO DO IT APPROPRIATELY.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
SO, SO YOU'RE, UH, UM, UM, ERICA, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED WAS A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION KIND OF THING MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S LIKE WE'RE TALKING FOR NEXT YEAR.
BECAUSE WE PA WE MAKE OUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS IN MARCH OF EVERY MM-HMM.
SO, UM, HOW FEASIBLE WOULD IT BE, UH, TO LIKE, LIKE MAKE A RESOLUTION TO COUNSEL THAT THEY JUST FIND THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS NOW? UM, I DON'T KNOW THE TECHNICAL COMPONENTS FOR THIS BUDGET PROCESS IF IT'S TOO LATE, BUT I THINK YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION RIGHT ON THE VOTE.
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AND MAKE, AND MAKE THAT PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IF AS YOU'RE TALKING WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, WHOSE DISTRICTS YOU REPRESENT HERE AT THE COMMISSION, LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ALONG WITH THAT RESOLUTION OR THAT RECOMMENDATION FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, DISCUSSION ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE, I MEAN, WE, WE KIND OF, WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PARKING, UH, FROM, FROM A WHILE.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT GIG BUDDY, THIS WONDERFUL IDEA ABOUT ALSO, UM, SOME ARRANGEMENT WITH THE PRIVATE IDENTITY IN, IN HOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
UH, I THINK, UM, ONCE WE, UM, KIND OF, UH, GET SPECIFIC ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FROM JASON, UH, AND GET THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NEXT IN THE NEXT, UH, MEETING, UM, SOMEWHERE LIKE, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH A WORKING GROUP, AND AGAIN, I WOULD ALWAYS RECOMMEND A TIME LIMITED TIME BOUND WORKING GROUP.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE DISC DISCUSSION DISCUSSION IS HAD SOME GOOD FOLKS ARE BROUGHT IN, YOU GET SOME IDEAS, AND THEN YOU HAVE AN OUTCOME, RIGHT? AND NOT, NOT A VERY EXTENDED WORKING GROUP, BUT, UH, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO KIND OF BRING ALL THESE DIFFERENT IDEAS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, LAY THEM OUT AND SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE, WHAT'S ACTIONABLE, AND, UH, MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE MUSICAL MISSION TO PURSUE FORWARD.
UH, SO, UM, THIS CONVERSATION, UH, HOPEFULLY HAS KIND OF A LOGICAL, YOU KNOW, OUTCOME TO IT.
[9. Discussion and possible action on all ages shows and how we support youth in Austin.]
THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ALL AGES SHOWS AND HOW WE SUPPORT YOUTH IN AUSTIN.UH, COMMISSIONER ARD, YOU HAD BROUGHT THIS UP.
IF YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS ON THIS, UH, TODAY, AND I KNOW YOU ALSO WANTED TO HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AND BRING IT BACK.
UM, I THINK BASICALLY THE CONCEPT WAS, UM, AS A MOTHER OF TWO TEENAGERS AND, UM, AND AGAIN, KIND OF PULLING THE NATIVE AUSTINITE CARD, YOU KNOW, UM, MY, MY, HOW AUSTIN HAS CHANGED AND, AND IT CIRCLES BACK AROUND TO SOME OF THE SIMILAR ISSUES THAT, UM, WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT, UM, IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY AND PARKING AND SAFETY, UM, AND, UH, MAKE MAKING SURE TO KIND OF NURTURE OUR YOUTH THAT WE ARE THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, AND THAT THEY SHOULD, YOU KNOW, GO SEE SHOWS.
I THINK GONE ARE THE DAYS OF, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, LIBERTY LUNCH OR, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO DIFFERENT CLUBS THAT ARE CHEAP, UM, AND NOT HAVING TO PAY, YOU KNOW, 20 BUCKS TO PARK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND SO, UM, I'D LOVE TO INCORPORATE SOME, UM, MORE DATA POINTS THAT I THINK SCOTT, JUST RECENTLY FROM THE, THE CENSUS, YOU KNOW, WAS WE WERE JUST EXPLORING THAT THERE MIGHT BE LIKE A GENERATION Z UM, THAT NUMBERS ARE DWINDLING OF YOUTH GOING OUT TO SEE SHOWS.
AND IT MAY BE, UM, CONTACTING SOME PROMOTERS OR BOOKING AGENTS TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR NUMBERS ARE AND IDENTIFY ALL AGES CLUBS.
UM, FROM THE MINIMAL RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE, I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PUBLICATIONS IN OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE LISTED, LIKE, JUST LIKE ARTICLES OF LIKE TOP 10 CLUBS IN DALLAS OR HOUSTON OR NASHVILLE TO THAT ARE, UM, ALL AGES SHOWS, SUPPORT, ALL AGES SHOWS.
SO, UM, YEAH, FURTHER EXPLORATION ON THAT TOPIC.
COMMISSION ARD, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, YOU HAD A COMMENT? YEAH.
ONE, ONE THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE GREAT WOULD BE, UH, IF WE COULD PERHAPS PARTNER WITH A I S T, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT THE SCHOOLS AND EVERY SCHOOL HAS AN AUDITORIUM, AND IF THERE COULD BE SOME WAY OF BRINGING AUSTIN ARTISTS TO PERFORM IN THE SCHOOLS, OBVIOUSLY ALL AGES SHOWS, AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY OR THE LABOR OR THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD COME, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE A REAL NATURAL PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD REALLY DRIVE HOME TO OUR CHILDREN HOW LUCKY THEY ARE TO LIVE IN AUSTIN, BECAUSE FRANKLY, KIDS THESE DAYS, MOST OF THEM PICK UP THEIR FAVORITE BANDS OVER TIKTOK.
AND YOU CAN DO THAT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
UH, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING SPECIAL HERE.
I WOULD LOVE FOR THE, UH, TO PARTNER WITH SCHOOLS.
I'M AWARE THAT, UM, ON THE CULTURAL, UM, OUTSIDE, UM, WHEN FOLKS GET GRANTS, UH, PART OF, UH, I THINK, UH, THE ARRANGEMENT IS, I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE, HAS TO HAPPEN FOR EVERY PERSON, UH, OR GROUP
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THAT GETS THE GRANT, BUT, UM, DOING PROGRAMS IN SCHOOLS IS PART OF, UH, UH, THE PLAN, UH, FOR SOME OF THE ARTISTS, AND THEY ACTUALLY DO, I KNOW ARTIST FRIENDS WHO ACTUALLY DO GO AND PERFORM IN SCHOOLS.AND MAYBE EXPANDING SOMETHING LIKE THAT MORE ON THE MUSIC SIDE WILL ALSO BE, UH, QUITE BENEFICIAL.
I ALSO LOOK AT, UM, ENTITIES LIKE, UM, LONG CENTER, UH, THAT MAY NOT BE CONSIDERED TYPICALLY AS MUSIC VENUES, BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF SPACES THAT CAN BE VERY OPEN TO ALL AGES.
UH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AND EXPLORING THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, THE EARLIER POINT I MADE ABOUT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, NOT NECESSARILY ENGAGING IN THE MUSIC, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MAINSTREAM SCENE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU CREATE, I THINK IT'LL ALSO OPEN UP MORE AVENUES FOR THE DIVERSE DIASPORA IN AUSTIN AND GREATER AUSTIN TO COME ENGAGE IN THE MUSIC ECONOMY AND, AND PARTICIPATE.
IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE THING, BUT THANK YOU.
UM, BACK IN THE, IN
FOUR I HAD FRIENDS WERE TEACHERS OR COACHES, AND, UH, UH, THEY USED TO, IN, IN THE MORNING AT, AT ADVISORY PERIOD, I HAD A HOMEROOM.
UH, THEY WOULD CHARGE LIKE 50 CENTS AND, UH, THEY'D, THEY'D MAKE $500 FOR JUST FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR CLUB, AND THEY WOULD GIVE US THE OTHER HALF.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD SPLIT THAT, THAT IN HALF.
AND OF COURSE, THE SHOWS WERE DONE AT, UM, WE HAD TO BE THERE AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING
BUT BEFORE LONG, WE WERE DOING IT AT PRETTY MUCH ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
AND, UH, THEN, UH, IN THE EIGHTIES, SOMETIMES IT, UH, UH, IT'D HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE, THE SCHOOL BOARD BEFORE WE COULD DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHEN WE USED TO GO DIRECTLY WITH THE, WITH THE TEACHERS OR CLUB, UH, DIFFERENT CLUB, UM, THAT THEY HAVE ORGANIZATIONS.
AND, UH, THOSE WENT OVER REAL WELL.
I MEAN, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR THE, FOR THE BANDS TOO, BECAUSE YOU GET A LOT OF GIGS THAT WAY.
WEDDINGS AND GRADUATIONS OH, OF THAT.
SO A LOT, LOT OF THAT WAS HAPPENING.
AND, UH, WE STARTED IT, AND THEN SEVERAL OTHER GROUPS STARTED DOING IT TOO.
BUT, UH, AND IT WAS, ALL OF THAT WAS DONE IN THE GYMNASIUM.
AND SO, UH, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS AND IT CAN BE DONE TO, TO RAISE, THEY CAN RAISE SOME MONEY ALSO, NOT NECESSARILY FREE
UH, COMMISSIONER ROZENTAL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I SAW YOU KIND OF, YEAH.
OH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF ACTUALLY CHARGING, UH, YOU KNOW, CHARGING KIDS TO GO TO CONCERTS.
JUST ESTABLISH THE IDEA THAT MUSIC IS NOT FREE.
AND, UH, I WONDER IF MACALLAN, WHICH HAS A GREAT ARTS MAGNET PROGRAM, MIGHT BE A PLACE TO MM-HMM.
I DON'T, DO, DO ANY OF US HAVE CONNECTIONS TO, UM, WHOEVER'S RUNNING MACALLAN? I AM NOT CURRENTLY A PARENT THERE.
I THINK THAT THAT IS A, UM, A WONDERFUL IDEA.
I REMEMBER BRINGING IN A, A BAND, UM, AT AUSTIN HIGH SCHOOL FOR LIKE A PROM, BUT IT WAS LIKE A LIVE BAND, UM, AT THE TIME, BAD MOTHER GOOSE, IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THAT BAND.
BUT, UM, THE, I ALSO THINK, UM, JUST PERHAPS HA HAVING MORE OF A DIALOGUE WITH, UM, PROMOTERS AND, AND CLUB SHOW OWNERS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TEENS, WE NEED TO NURTURE THE FACT THAT TEENS, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE EXPLORING OUR CITY RIGHT NOW, AND THEY NEED TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DOING IT IN A SAFE WAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE IS LEARNING HOW TO WALK DOWNTOWN OR GO TO A CLUB AND SEEING THOSE POSTERS AND HOW GROSS THE BATHROOMS ARE, WHATEVER ALL THAT IS.
BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, EXTRACURRICULAR EDUCATION THAT WE PROVIDE FOR OUR KIDS.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT IT MAY BE INTERESTING TO, TO, I'D JUST LIKE TO, I'LL TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO KIND OF REACH OUT TO SOME FOLKS AND SEE, UM, UH, IF THEY HAVE ANY DEMOGRAPHICS OR DATABASES, YOU KNOW, UH, OF THEIR ALL AGES SHOWS.
BECAUSE I THINK I, I HOPE THAT I WOULD BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SHOWS ARE STARTING TO HAPPEN, BUT I THINK MAYBE IN THE MARKETING OF AUSTIN, THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND REPRESENT OUR, OUR YOUTH, BECAUSE IT, IT IS, THE AUSTIN CULTURE IS CHANGING RAPIDLY, AND I DO THINK SOME OF THESE TICKETS ARE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT
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TO EVEN AFFORD THAN THEY WERE IN THE PAST.UM, OR MAYBE THERE'S EARLIER SHOWS AT, UM, SOME OF THESE VENUES.
UM, SO ALL THINGS TO KIND OF CONSIDER AND EXPLORE AT THIS TIME.
THERE, UM, I'M, I'M REMINDED ALL OF A SUDDEN OF A STORY, I'M GONNA TELL JUST A, A, A SMALL LITTLE STORY.
I WENT TO A FRIEND'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, AND, UM, UH, HE, HE, HE'S A MUSICIAN.
AND, AND, AND THERE WAS THIS, UH, THIS OTHER GUY THAT WAS WITH HIM, I FORGET HIS NAME AT THE MOMENT, BUT HE WAS AN AWESOME GUY, AND HE WAS VERY, VERY INTENSE.
AND HE, HE TOLD ME HE, HE, HE WAS A, A, A, A PLAYER ALSO, BOTH, THEY WERE BOTH MUSICIANS.
AND, UH, HE TOLD ME THIS STORY ABOUT HOW BACK IN THE DAY, BACK IN THE DAY WHERE THERE WERE NO BARS ON SIXTH STREET, AND THERE WAS THIS, UH, I THINK IT WAS THE BAR CALLED THE, THE, THE MINAI CAT, OR LIKE THE CAT OR BLACK CAT OR SOMETHING.
AND HE WAS SAYING, HE WAS TELLING ME A STORY ABOUT HOW, UM, LIKE BOB SCHNEIDER BACK WHEN BOB SCHNEIDER WAS THE SCABS, RIGHT? AND LIKE, THERE WERE, I MEAN, THE PLACE WAS JUST PACKED FULL OF PEOPLE, AND THESE GUYS WERE WALKING OUT WITH $2,000 EACH, EVERY TUESDAY, TRASH BAGS FULL OF $5 BELTS.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THERE'S A REASON WHY AUSTIN IS CALLED THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, IS BECAUSE YOU CAN SHAKE DOWN A VENUE LIKE THAT AND MAKE ALL THAT MONEY.
RIGHT? NOW, WE, THERE'S, I MEAN, YOU, YOU CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD PAY $5 TO GET IN ANYWHERE.
NOW, NOWADAYS, I MEAN, MAYBE A FEW PLACES, BUT NOT THAT THERE, THERE AREN'T VERY MANY.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS HOW IS IT THAT WE CAN, I MEAN, DON'T, THE MUSIC CENSUS DATA IS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE, LIKE NOT ONLY ARE ARE GEN Z, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SHOWS, BUT THEY'RE NOT FORMING BANDS.
THEY'RE NOT BEING VERY CREATIVE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BE, A LOT OF 'EM CAN'T AFFORD TO BE.
SO HOW IS IT THAT VENUES, SCHOOLS, DIFFERENT PROGRAMS? YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THAT THERE, THERE ARE MANY, MANY PROGRAMS, SCHOOL OF ROCK AND A COUPLE OTHER, LIKE MANY, MANY OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE KIDS ENGAGED.
BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN WE DO, LIKE WHAT CAN RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT DO, WHAT CAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE MUSIC ECOSYSTEM OF AUSTIN TO DO TO KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIFT UP THESE, THESE YOUNG KIDS AND THESE YOUNG VOICES AND, YOU KNOW, UH, REPRESENT THEM WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WITH, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT IDENTITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, AS THINGS CONTINUE TO CHANGE, HOW IS IT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UM, SQUARE THE CIRCLE WITH THAT? AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE AS THINGS HAVE GOTTEN EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY, AND I WAS HAVING THIS CONVERSATION OFFLINE WITH CELESTE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO CATER TO A CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC OF PEOPLE, WHICH IS TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR MID THIRTIES TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE SIXTIES, YOU KNOW, WHITE PERSON FOR THE MOST PART, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO BUY A TICKET, TO GO TO A SHOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CHARGE 15, 20, 25, $30 TO MAKE THE NUT, YOU KNOW? UM, AND SO HOW IS IT THAT WE CAN KIND OF REVERSE ENGINEER AND DECONSTRUCT SOME OF THESE THINGS AND, AND, AND, UM, GIVE THE YOUTH A, A SHOT AT PARTICIPATING IN THIS THING THAT WE CALL THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD? THANK YOU.
UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, LET'S KEEP TICKETMASTER OUT OF THE DEAL BECAUSE RIGHT, RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT, TALK ABOUT THENOT.
I MEAN, LOOK, YOU KNOW, SNOOP DOG IS PLAYING, RIGHT? IT'S GONNA COST A HUNDRED DOLLARS A TICKET, WHICH A KID CAN'T AFFORD.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THAT SAME KID AND SAY, HEY, FOR 15 BUCKS, 20 BUCKS, YOU CAN SEE BLACK ODYSSEY.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STRICK, UH, THAT SAID, IF TICKETMASTER WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT A MUSICIAN PARKING PROGRAM IN AUSTIN, WE'RE ALL EARS
UH, WIN-WIN, UH, KIND OF SITUATIONS OR, OR, OR BIG BUSINESS SUPPORTING, UH, YEAH.
UM, SO THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
UM, SO, UM, IN ALL OF THIS, WHETHER I LOOK AT THE LAST ITEM OF THIS ITEM, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I HOPE THAT, UH, WE WILL HAVE, UM, FOLKS ON THIS COMMISSION, AND IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT WE WILL, UH, WITH THE PASSION THAT WE SEE HERE, UM, THEN KIND OF CHAMPION, MAYBE PICK UP ONE OF, PICK UP SOME OF THESE ITEMS, UH, WHETHER IT TAKES A SMALL WORKING GROUP WITH THE COMMUNITY, AGAIN, TIME BOUND, AND, UM, IF WE CAN, THE OUTCOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS EVENTUALLY WITHIN THE YEAR COULD BE SOME
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CONCRETE, UH, THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.UH, WHAT ACTION CAN BE TAKEN IN.
SO IF WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS, UM, SOME, UM, REAL, REAL RESULTS, UH, FROM THESE CONVERSATIONS, THAT WOULD BE, UH, WONDERFUL.
AND SO MAYBE WE COULD MOVE SOME OF THESE, UH, ITEMS TO THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, AND THEN SEE HOW WE WANNA ACTION THESE FURTHER.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON, UH, THIS ITEM, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE LAST TOPIC? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
[10. Discussion and possible action following presentation on the 2022 Greater Austin Music Census by Don Pitts, Sound Music Cities.]
LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING PRESENTATION ON THE 2022 GREATER ROSTER IN MUSIC CENSUS BY DON PITS SOUND MUSIC CITIES.SO, DON PITS, UH, WE DID REACH OUT TO HIM AND HE INFORMED US THAT HE, UH, WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
UH, NEITHER WAS HIS TEAM MEMBER.
UH, WE HAD A SUBSEQUENT NOTE, UM, FROM HIM, UH, ALSO STATING, UH, AND I'M JUST GONNA READ THIS VERBATIM, THAT, UH, UH, PRESENTING TO THE COMMISSION OF DATA THAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE IS NOT A GOOD USE OF, UH, TIME.
UH, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT WORKING GROUPS OR INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO HAVE READ THE DATA AND HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DATA.
UH, PLEASE, UH, FOR NEW COMMISSIONERS, UH, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT, UH, UH, THEY HAD ONCE COME IN AND PRESENTED, UH, WHEN THE RESULTS WERE OUT, AT LEAST THE BROAD, UH, PROCESSING OUTCOMES THEY HAD PRESENTED ON THAT, THAT, UM, WE DESIGNED THE DATA DELIVERABLES TO PROVIDE MORE ACCESSIBILITY TO A WIDER AND MORE DIVERSE AUDIENCE OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT IS OUR HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION CAN CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THE BROADER COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE THE DATA IN THE THREE REPORTS THAT ARE PUBLISHED, AND FIND WAYS TO ADDRESS THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER.
UM, YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY IT TO A REQUEST TO ESSENTIALLY SPEND TIME ON THE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE PUBLICLY, UH, AND, UH, AND, AND COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS.
AND THEY WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO COME AND SUPPORT THAT.
UM, IN BOTH THIS AND JUST AN OBSERVATION, PERHAPS IT'S NOT, UH, APPLES TO APPLES, BUT IN THE TRANSPORTATION CASE OR THE PARKING CASE, I THINK, UH, ONCE SOMEBODY HAS COME IN AND PRESENTED TO US, UH, MAYBE WE HAVE TO TAKE THE TACK OF, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT NET NEW INFORMATION WE ARE LOOKING FOR, UM, FROM, UM, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR, OR, YOU KNOW, UH, FROM ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THIS.
AND, UH, MAYBE TAKE, TAKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TACK, UH, IN BEING VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE ASK THEM TO RETURN.
UM, AND SO SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND, UH, WE CAN, UH, KEEP THIS OR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT, NEXT SESSION AND DISCUSS AS TO WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH THE SURVEY MOVING FORWARD.
UM, OR, OR COMMUNICATE OVER EMAIL AND, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHAT NET NEW QUESTIONS WE HAVE, UM, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
UH, WELL, I, I, UM, I, I, I BELIEVE, I CAN'T REMEMBER CORRECTLY CAUSE I'VE SLEPT SINCE, BUT I THINK I MAY HAVE ASKED, UH, FOR MR. PITTS, UH, UH, UH, TO COME IN FOR, UM, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
I THINK ONE OF THEM, UM, IN PARTICULAR WAS THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I LISTENED TO PAUSE PLAY, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, A PODCAST ON, UM, MUSICIANS AND PARTICULARLY MUSICIAN MUSICIANS IN COLOR THAT ARE STRUGGLING IN AUSTIN.
AND, AND, AND SHAKA MAHO IS A VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, UM, SERIOUS PROPONENT OF, OF, OF EQUITY, UM, IN, IN, UM, IN, IN AUSTIN.
AND HE HAS MADE LEAPS AND BOUNDS AND DONE MANY, MANY, MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, TO HELP, PARTICULARLY ARTISTS OF COLOR, PARTICULARLY, UM, WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, ALSO WITH, UM, MAKING SURE THAT DIFFERENT GENRES OF MUSIC ARE REPRESENTED, UM, IN A WAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE, UM, HAD TO, YOU KNOW, HE ALSO, HE ALSO HAS A KNOWN PROPHET CALLED DAWA.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HE HAD TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE SENSES THAT WAS BEING CREATED THROUGH TWITTER, AND HE WASN'T, UM, INCLUDED IN ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS UNTIL, I GUESS IT WAS PROBABLY TOO LATE FOR HIM TO BE INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSIONS.
AND THEN HE WAS INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION.
SO THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD'VE ASKED MR. PITTS WAS, WHY IS THAT? UM, SECONDLY, THE, UM, BLACK POPULATION IN AUSTIN DECREASED FROM 9% OR 8%, EXCUSE ME, TO ABOUT 5.5%, UM, FROM 2020 TO 2022, WHICH IS WHEN THIS CENSUS WAS CREATED.
AND, UH, THE DATA FROM THE CENSUS BASICALLY POINTS TO VERY, HE, I MEAN, IT'S A VERY PARTICULAR DEMOGRAPHIC BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE OF COLOR LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
AND IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THIS CENSUS WAS DONE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF AUSTIN.
AND SO BASICALLY IT CATERS TO A DEMOGRAPHIC THAT'S, UM, AND IT SAYS IT, IT'S VERY HETEROSEXUAL,
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VERY MALE AND VERY WHITE.SO I'M NOT SURE, UM, HOW THAT KIND OF DATA HELPS REPRESENT ARTISTS OF COLOR, UM, IN THIS CITY EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN THIS CITY, IN THIS REPORT.
EXCEPT FOR JUST TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE HAVE MOVED OUT AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S POPULATION PERCENTAGES AND EVERYTHING, BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT REPRESENTING EVERYONE, I DO NOT BELIEVE FROM THE DATA THAT I'VE LOOKED AT, THAT THE CENSUS ACTUALLY DOES THAT.
AND SO THE, I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD ASK MR. PITTS, UM, IF HE WERE HERE.
I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE, UM, MR. PITTS THAT THE NEXT TIME, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A CENSUS THAT'S DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EJ AND THE MSA ARE REACHED OUT, AND THAT IF THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY REPRESENTED IN THAT SURVEY THAT ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR, THAT THEY TRY HARDER TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE MORE REPRESENTED INDICATIVELY OF THIS SURVEY.
UM, I CAN, UH, QUICKLY COMMENT ON SOME OF THE D E I OUTREACH.
IKI AUSTIN, UM, VOLUNTEERED TO, UM, DO THE, UM, OUTREACH TO DIVERSE COMMUNITIES.
UH, THIS, UH, THE ENGAGEMENT FROM DIVERSE COMMUNITIES, LATINO, BLACK, AND ASIAN COMMUNITIES IN THIS SURVEY HAS BEEN UNPRECEDENTED.
UH, WE HAVE REACHED, UH, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AND, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, THAT, UM, FROM THESE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THE PAST ON A SURVEY LIKE THIS.
UM, IT DOES ACTUALLY INCLUDE, UH, THE MSAS.
UM, AND, UH, AND, UM, ESSENTIALLY ALL THE PARTICIPATION, UH, PERCENTAGES, UM, ACROSS BLACK, LATINO, AND ASIAN COMMUNITIES ARE, UH, MORE, SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN THE PARTICIPATION THAT WE SAW IN THE, UH, IN THE LAST SURVEY THAT WAS CONDUCTED.
UH, WELL CLOSE TO A DECADE, BUT IT WAS NOT AS, AS FAR BACK, BUT YEAH.
UH, 2015, 16, I THINK, UM, 14, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, SO THERE HAS BEEN UNPRECEDENTED OUTREACH, UH, AND PARTICIPATION FROM COMMUNITIES OF, UH, COLOR, UH, IT.
AND SO THAT, UM, UH, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE REVIEW THE RESULTS AND COMPARE SOME OF THE PARTICIPATION PERCENTAGES FOR, WITH THE LAST, UH, SURVEY, I THINK WE WILL, WE WILL NOTE THAT.
UM, AND I THINK I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
AND AS FAR AS, UH, FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS TO, UH, SOUND MUSIC CITIES GOES, UM, I THINK WE COULD, UM, ALWAYS PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA, IF THAT'S DESIRED OR, OR REACH OUT DIRECTLY, UH, AS WELL.
UM, I'M PRETTY SURE, UH, THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND COMMISSIONER MEMBERS, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
UH, SO, UM, WE CAN APPROACH IT EITHER WAY THAT FOLKS HERE WANNA DO.
ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC? OKAY.
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
SUGGESTIONS, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION LOADING, UNLOADING, UM, WHERE ARE WE AT? DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSIC MUSICIAN PARKING, LOADING AND UNLOADING THE FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY MR. JASON RED FERN.UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO COME BACK.
MAY, SHOULD WE COLLECT, UH, ALL THE ITEMS AND DO A, DO A MOTION COLLECTIVELY COMMISSION, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING STAFF PRESENTATION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATIONS OR APPLICATION PROCESS.
UM, CAN WE DO THE COLLECTION UPDATE ALSO? YEAH, YEAH.
UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOW FOLLOWING LIVE MUSIC, FUN COLLECTIONS, UPDATE FROM STAFF, UH, COLLECTION OR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON, UH, MUSICAL PERFORMANCE AT COMMISSION MEETING, FOLLOWING, UM, UPDATE FROM STAFF ON FEASIBILITY OF LIVE PERFORMANCE.
UM, WHAT ELSE ABOUT, I WOULD SAY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ALL AGES SHOW AND HOW WE SUPPORT YOUTH.
THAT GUY, THAT ITEM GOES BACK IN.
TRANSPORTATION IS BACK, UM, MUSIC PERFORMANCES IS BACK.
UM, DID WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM ADC FOR THE NEXT ROUND, OR, UH, OR IS THAT A TBD? UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
I THINK I, I EMAILED WITH ANNE TODAY.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA JOIN US IN AUGUST WITH SOME UPDATES.
[02:40:01]
UH, THE TINY TRANSIT BACK, UM, IN CASE WE GET THE DRAFT RESOLUTIONS FROM, UH, SUSAN.ANYTHING ELSE, UH, FOR TODAY? ALRIGHT.
THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPTION TO, IF YOU CAN THINK OF, IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING LATER ON THAT YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO ADD, PLEASE RECOMMEND THEN IF SOMEBODY SECONDS, WE CAN STILL GET IT ADDED TO THE AGENDA, UH, WITHIN TIME.
SO I, I MOTION THAT WE HOLD ON.
APPROVE THAT SLATE OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OH, I PERMISSION TO APPROVE THESE? YEAH.
DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT? OR DO I NEED TO DO SOMETHING? UH, YEAH, LET'S TAKE THAT.
YEAH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT OFFLINE AND THEN WE CAN OKAY.
SO I WILL SECOND WHAT YOU SAID.
AND, AND THE OTHER THING THAT YOU SAID,
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE SLATE OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WHO'S, WHO'S MOTION FOR WRITTEN? SECONDED.
I HAVE MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
ANYBODY? I SECOND
ALL IN FAVOR? WHO WANNA GO HOME?
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR SUCH A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION TODAY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I JUST CAN'T FEEL ANYTHING BUT BLUE THE HERD.
YOU WANT SAY, YOU MAY NOT LOVE ME ONE DAY.
CAN I TAKE IT BACK? SOMETHING NEW?