* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] CAMERA'S ON, UH, IT [Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order] IS, UH, 6 0 8 AND, UH, WE'RE BRINGING THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER. THE DATE IS JUNE 13TH, 2023. UH, WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL AND I'LL START WITH THOSE, UH, ON THE DIAS, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO, UM, THE SCREEN. AND I'LL START HERE ON MY LEFT. UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL HERE. COMMISSIONER WOODS HERE. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON HERE. YOUR CHAIR. CHAIR SHAW. THEN MOVING TO MY RIGHT IS COMMISSIONER AZAR HERE. AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY HERE, AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER HAYNES HERE. AND THEN, UH, READING, UM, GOES ON THE SCREEN. JUST RAISE YOUR HANDS AND NOW YOUR PRESENCE. UH, LET'S SEE. WE START WITH COMMISSIONER BARTA RAMIREZ HERE. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER HOWARD HERE. COMMISSIONER COX HERE. AND I THOUGHT I, I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, I, NO, COMMISSIONER MUSH TYLER, I SAW YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR CAMERA'S HAVING TROUBLE, BUT WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. UM, AND I THINK, UH, TO VICE CHAIR HEMPLE IS OUT AND WE'RE STILL DOWN ONE COMMISSIONER. SO, UH, THE TOTAL TONIGHT IS 4 5 6 9, 10 10. AND IF WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MOK TYLER, THAT'LL BE 11. OKAY. UM, MOVING ON. WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION THIS EVENING. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] THE NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES COMMISSIONERS. WERE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? UM, LET'S SEE. WE'VE GOT BOTH THE MINUTES FROM MAY 23RD AND THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON MAY 30TH. UH, IN YOUR REVIEW OF THOSE, DID WE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MINUTES FOR THOSE TWO MEETINGS? OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THOSE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND THEN, UH, WITH THE HELP OF COMMISSIONER CZAR, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, WELL, I FORGOT ONE, UM, JUST HOUSEKEEPING ITEM HERE. I NEED TO RECOGNIZE OUR EXO OFFICIO, UH, THE BOARD OF VOA CHAIR. UH, CHAIR COHEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AGAIN, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE [Reading of the Agenda] FIRST READING OF THE, UM, CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, STARTING WITH OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, N B 20 22 0 0 1 5 0.01 TRACER LANE, N B DISTRICT ONE. THIS IS THE PLAN AMENDMENT. IT'S AN APPLICANT, INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT. UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, NPA 20 22 0 0 1, 0 0.0 2000 EAST SIXTH STREET IN 2007, EAST SEVENTH STREET, DISTRICT THREE. THIS IS APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT. UM, IEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A PLAN AMENDMENT, MPA 20 22 0 0 2, 1 0.02. BURLESON AND BEN WHITE DISTRICT THREE, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO JUNE 27TH. UH, NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS ALSO PLANNED AMENDMENT N P 20 22 0 0 2, 0 0.01 INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD IN TERRY O. LANE, DISTRICT THREE, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO AUGUST 8TH, NUMBER SIX, UM, WHICH IS A REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 6 TO INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD AND TERRY O. LANE, DISTRICT THREE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO AUGUST 8TH. NUMBER SEVEN, PLAN AMENDMENT N P 20 22 0 0 2, 6 0.01 GEORGIAN DRIVE, QUALITY FOUNDATION, DISTRICT FOUR STAFF AND APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT JULY 25TH, NUMBER EIGHT, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 1. SIX SIX GEORGIAN DRIVE, QUALITY FOUNDATION, DISTRICT FOUR STAFF AND APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT JULY 25TH, NUMBER NINE, UH, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 1 7 4 2700 SOUTH LAMAR FOLLOW UP, DISTRICT FIVE STAFF POSTPONEMENT DUE JULY 25TH, REZONING NUMBER 10. UH, ITEM NUMBER 2010 REZONING C 8 1 4 20 22 0 0 9 5 517 SOUTH LAMAR BUD, DISTRICT NINE, STAFF INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT NUMBER 11 C 14, UH, REZONING C 14 20 22. 1 55 BENFIELD DISTRICT THREE. THIS PASSES ON CONSENT WITH ADDITIONAL PROHIBITED USES AGREED BY APPLICANT AND NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH INCLUDE AUTO SALES, CONVENIENCE, STORAGE, DROP OFF, RECYCLING COLLECTION, AND FACILITY KENNELS. ITEM NUMBER 12, REZONING C 14 20 23 0 0 1 35 0 1 LES DISTRICT THREE. STAFF POSTPONEMENT DUE JULY 25TH, ITEM 13, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 1 4, BRENTWOOD MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT SEVEN. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION. ITEM NUMBER 14, REZONING C 14 20 23 35 SHERIDAN, DISTRICT FOUR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO AUGUST 8TH. ITEM NUMBER 15, UH, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 9 0 2 2 3 9 [00:05:02] CROMWELL CIRCLE, DISTRICT THREE, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO AUGUST 8TH, NUMBER 16, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 1 7 2 20 20 0 7 WILSHIRE LANE, DISTRICT THREE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO AUGUST 8TH REZONING. UH, ITEM NUMBER 17, REZONING C 14 20 23 0 0 3 9 17 0 5, AND 1707 EVERGREEN DISTRICT FIVE. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION NUMBER 18 C 14 20 23 0, 26, LIFE STORAGE DISTRICT FOUR. THIS ITEM IS POST IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 11TH. ITEM NUMBER 19, RIGHT OF WAY VACATION 20 22, 109 31 SOUTH THIRD STREET. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT. CONDITIONAL U UH, NUMBER 20, WHICH IS A CONDITIONAL USE SITE PLAN. SVC 20 21 0 2 8 4 C ST. ELMO SERVICE CENTER. THIS IS STAFF POSTPONEMENT DUE JUNE 27TH. SITE, UH, NUMBER 21, SITE PLAN, SB 20 22 0 5 1 8 C FOUR 15 LAVACA STREET, HILTON DUAL BRAND HOTEL. THIS IS A CONSENT REDO, REDO DUE TO A NOTICE ADDRESS IN ADDRESSING ERROR NUMBER 22, WHICH IS FINAL PLA C 8 20 23 0 0 7, 7 0.08 1705 CAMERON ROAD, DISTRICT FOUR. THIS IS ON CONSENT WITH CONDITIONS AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C. ITEM NUMBER 23, PRELIMINARY PLAN C 8 20 21, 90 DASH 1 93, WILDHORSE TRACK, P SECTION ONE, DISTRICT ONE. WE DISAPPROVE IT FOR REASONS AS, UM, SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C. NUMBER 24, 4 SUBDIVISION VACATION C EIGHT S 72 DASH THREE 40, UM, VACATION TO RENO PLAZA. THIS ITEM PASSES ON CONSENT OR IS UP FOR CONSENT. UM, NUMBER 25, IMAGINE AUSTIN, UM, PC FY 2324 C I P MEMO. THIS IS ON CONSENT AS REVISED AND AMENDED BY C PJ C AND THAT IS ALL OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, CHAIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, CHAIR, COMMISSION, LADIES ON, AND VER THERE WAS ALSO AN ADDENDUM, UM, POSTED TO YOUR, UM, FOR YOUR REVIEW. OKAY. IT'S, UM, CJ 20 23 81 MAINER DOWNS INDUSTRIAL PRELIMINARY PLAN. IF IT'S THE, UH, DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION THAT CAN PASS ON, UH, APPROVAL WITH CON CONDITIONS PER EXHIBIT C. OKAY. NEED IT? NO, I THINK THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. YEP. SO, UM, ALL RIGHT. [Consent Agenda] ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO WE'RE GONNA ROLL, AS WE SAID, THE MINUTES FROM THE TWO MEETINGS INTO THAT, AND, UH, ANY RECUSALS ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THIS EVENING. OKAY. AND, UM, CHAIR, IF I MAY. YES. UH, HI, UH, I'M JUAN ENRIQUE. I'M THE CASE MANAGER FOR ITEM NUMBER 23. IT'S FOR A, IT'S A PRELIMINARY PLAN. UM, I, THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF, UH, FROM DISAPPROVAL WITH REASONS TO APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. UH, THERE WAS SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO CHANGE THE, THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. OKAY. UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN BEFORE. ARE YOU ALL I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR CASE. GO AHEAD. YES, CHAIR. IF WE CAN JUST ASK THEM TO EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE, UH, YOU COULD BE FINE. OKAY. UM, CHAIR COMMISSION LAYS ON ANDREW. IT'S A PRELIM. IT'S A WHAT? PRELIM IT'S A PRELIMINARY PLAN. OKAY. SO, UM, I GUESS WE'VE HAD A REQUEST TO JUST READ THE, UM, THE CONDITIONS. NO, CAN IS EXHIBIT C? YEAH, THE EXHIBIT, UH, THE CONDITIONS ARE IN EXHIBIT C. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. NO ISSUE. OKAY. I'M NOT SEEING ANY ISSUE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION. UH, UH, SEAT COMMISSIONER WOODS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER AZAR. UH, ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, UH, GO AHEAD AND PASS THAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. UH, THE, OH, I WANNA RECOGNIZE, UH, COMMISSIONER MUTO. ED, JOIN US. SO WE'RE AT 11 NOW. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND THE FIRST CASE WE HAVE IS, LET'S SEE, WE ARE AT, IS IT ITEM 11? OKAY. [00:10:01] WE HAVE A REZONING CASE. THIS IS THE PENFIELD DISTRICT IN DISTRICT THREE. THIS WAS ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, THIS WAS, UM, CONSENT IT. SO ACTUALLY NUMBER 13, BRENTWOOD FAMILY. OKAY. YES, THAT WAS ON CONSENT. SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH [13. Rezoning: C14-2022-0140 - Brentwood Multifamily, District 7] BRENTWOOD REZONING, UH, THE BRENTWOOD MULTIFAMILY, JONATHAN TOMKO FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 13, CASE C 14 2020 2 0 1 40, BRENTWOOD MULTIFAMILY. UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, STAFF WOULD JUST LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THIS CASE WAS UNNOTICED. UM, THE, THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL ADDRESSES IN THERE DUE TO A GLITCH IN THE CITY'S PROPERTY PROFILE. THAT DOES NOT PREVENT THE CASE FROM MOVING FORWARD. HOWEVER, THAT, THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO YOUR, OUR ATTENTION AND IS IN THE BACK OF THE STAFF REPORT. UH, STAFF PLANS TO HAVE THIS ISSUE CORRECTED BEFORE THE CASE, UH, MOVES ON TO COUNCIL. THE PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 2.44 ACRES, AND THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM CS M U V C O, NP, AND CS M U C O N P, AND MF THREE NP TO CS M U V C O N P, WHICH IS FOR THE WESTERN HALF OF THE, THE PARCEL AND MF SIX NP FOR THE EASTERN HALF. UH, STAFF, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IN GRANTING THAT REZONING. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 350 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS WITH A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN STORIES ALONG THE WEST END AND FIVE STORIES ALONG THE EAST SIDE, AND IS COMMITTED TO 12% OF THE UNITS, APPROXIMATELY 26 UNITS BEING AFFORDABLE ON BOTH PARCELS. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED, UH, WATER QUALITY AND DETENTION IMPROVEMENTS PER CITY CODE, A PROPOSED ONSITE PARK. THIS PARK IS, THIS IS A PARK DEFICIENT AREA, UH, AND HAS PROPOSED OFFSITE, UH, SIDEWALK MITIGATION PER THE NTA, WHICH IS ALSO IN YOUR BACKUP. UH, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, APPROXIMATE TO TWO IMAGINE AUSTIN CENTERS CRESTVIEW STATION IN HIGHLAND MALL. UH, BURNETT IS A LEVEL THREE A S P CORRIDOR AND A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR WITH METRO RAPID STOPS. AND THERE ARE SOME SIMILAR PROPERTIES, UH, ALONG BURNETT UP TOWARDS THE NORTH BURNETT GATEWAY THAT HAVE, UH, BEEN APPROVED. UH, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. WILL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. MR. HARMON, I HAVE FIVE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. DAVID HARTMAN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, GIL BAIN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT. I ALSO HAVE THE, UH, DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVES, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS HERE PRESENT IN CHAMBERS, AND THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE DIES FOR OR IN ON THE PHONE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THIS IS TWO ACRES, UM, SERVED BY MULTIPLE BUS ROUTES AND STOPS, INCLUDING A METRO RAPID LOCATED NEAR IMAGINE AUSTIN CENTERS NEAR A PROJECT CONNECT. CANING STATION HAS INDICATED, UH, JONATHAN SAID, UM, THE BURN ROAD IS AN IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDOR LEVEL THREE STREET, CTT C LARGER CORRIDOR. THERE'S NO EXISTING DETENTION OR WATER QUALITY, MORE THAN 80% OF IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED. YOU CAN SEE IN THE CHART DOWN THERE. UM, WE'LL GET TO, UM, BASICALLY WE'RE PROPOSING TO REZONE EVERYTHING ON THE WEST V M U AND EVERYTHING ON THE EAST, MF SIX. AND THE REASON THERE'S KIND OF THAT BIFURCATED APPROACH IS CUZ WE DIDN'T WANNA WAIT AROUND UNTIL THE, THE END CYCLE APPLICATION PERIOD IN FEBRUARY. UM, WE'RE PROPOSING 350 UNITS, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE UNITS ON THE VMU SIDE. WE'LL DO THE 12% AT 60%, AND WE'LL BASICALLY MATCH THAT VOLUNTARILY ON THE EAST SIDE ON THE MF SIX PORTION FOR A, UH, A TOTAL OF, UM, 90 FEET ON THE WEST SIDE, STEPPING DOWN TO THE EAST, CURRENT WATER QUALITY AND, AND DETENTION CODE, REDUCED IMPERVIOUS COVER AND A PROPOSED ONSITE PARK. AND THEN THE NTA PROPOSES SIDEWALK MITIGATION, FILLING IN GAPS BASICALLY TOWARDS THEIR NEW PROJECT CONNECT CANAN STATION. WHEN THAT COMES UP, UH, COMES ONLINE AND THAT'LL BE, UH, WE'LL USE A MAXIMUM OF $277,000 IN STREET UNPACK FEES, WE'LL GO TOWARDS AREA INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTING OUR APPLICATION, AND I'LL SAY HERE THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE BRENTWOOD NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION'S HARD WORK WITH US ON THIS CASE. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE, UM, MEETINGS AND WE, UH, UH, THEIR INPUT HAS [00:15:01] RESULTED IN A BETTER PROJECT. UH, THIS IS THE, THE BASIC AERIAL SHOWING THE SITE HOUSTON STREET TO THE NORTH, WILLIAM HOLLAND TO THE WEST, AND IMMEDIATE TO THE WEST IS CLAY AVENUE AND, UH, BURNETT ROAD AT LAWN MONT. AGAIN, UH, MIXED USE TO THE WEST MF THREE TO THE EAST. YOU CAN SEE V M U, UH, DIRECTLY TO THE WEST AND UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR. COMMERCIAL ON BUSINESS. THIS SHOWS THE PLUM ON BOTH SIDES. THE EXISTING SIDE IS BASICALLY, ESSENTIALLY VACANT, AND THEN THERE'S APARTMENTS, CONDOS TO THE EAST. AGAIN, A VMU PROJECT TO THE WEST AND STRIP CENTER TO THE SOUTH, UH, ON AN IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDOR. UH, LEVEL THREE STREET AS, UH, TPN CTC, UH, ON THE 8 0 3 METRO RAPID WITH BUS STOPS PRETTY NEARBY TO THE SOUTH AND REGULAR STOPS RIGHT THERE AT THE PROPERTY BIKE ROUTE AND ABOUT SEVEN TENTHS OF MILE FROM THE NEW PROJECT CONNECT STATION. WHEN IT COMES ONLINE, AGAIN, WE'RE FILLING OUT SIDEWALK GAPS. UM, THE PRELIMINARY CONCEPT PLAN IS KIND OF AS YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE THE TYPICAL, UM, STRUCTURED PARKING. AND THERE'S THE PARKLAND ON THE UPPER NORTH, UH, UPPER RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE, THE SLIDE SHOWING OUR PARKLAND THAT WE THINK WILL BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THE, NOT ONLY THE PROJECT, BUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL. AND WE THINK BRENTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE CONTACT TEAM AGREES WITH THIS. UM, THE, THIS IS MY SLIDE BASICALLY SHOWING THAT OF THE MOST RECENT ZONINGS, UM, UP AND DOWN THIS CORRIDOR. OUR PROJECT IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH ONES UP AND DOWN BURNETT, UM, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED MY REZONING OF SHOAL CREEK NUMBER FIVE RECENTLY LUBI SITE RECENTLY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC, A ANALYSIS SHOWS AGAIN THAT THERE ARE, ARE REQUIRES US WILL BE BOUND AT TIME OF SITE PLAN TO FILL IN THE SIDEWALK GAPS AS YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE. BASICALLY UP AND DOWN HOUSTON STREET DOWN, UH, WILLIAM HOLLAND. AND THEN OUR STREET IMPACT FEET FEES, QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS WORTH WILL GO SOMEWHERE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE ROADWAY CAPACITY PLAN HAS A, HAS PROPOSED, UM, THIS, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, THERE. AND AGAIN, HERE ARE EIGHT DIFFERENT BULLET POINTS THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, THE BRENTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CONTACT TEAM. AND, UH, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT INPUT. DARK SKIES HITTING SHIELDING FROM, UH, OF OUR LIGHTS, FROM OUR PARKING GARAGE ONSITE. CURRENT WATER QUALITY, A HUNDRED YEAR STORM CRITERIA, COMPLYING WITH THE HERITAGE STREET ORDINANCE. AGAIN, HERE'S ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THE BRENTWOOD CONTACT TEAM, UH, PUT INTO THIS, THIS PROJECT. AND THEN HERE ARE ALL THE REASONS TO SUPPORT AND WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL AGREE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE THE CASE. AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALSO, UM, REGISTERED IN SUPPORT, BUT NOT SPEAKING. OR KATHY SMITH, ADAM MOORE, GRIFF WELLEN, LANDER FLORES. MOVING ON TO SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION AS PRIMARY SPEAKER, MR. BILL SPACEMAN, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES, FOLLOWED BY GREG CHICO. UM, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I'M, UH, BILL SPIZMAN, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE BRENTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND I AM, UH, SPEAKING, UH, HERE AND WHAT I'LL CALL TEMPORARY OPPOSITION, UH, TO THE PROPOSED REZONING CASE. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED, UH, EXTENSIVELY WITH DAVID HARTMAN REPRESENTING THE, THE, UM, DEVELOPER, UM, AND SUCCESSFULLY, UM, NEGOTIATED ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE EXCEPT FOR ONE. AND, AND THAT ITEM, UH, IN PARTICULAR REALLY FALLS IN THE CITY'S COURT. AND THAT ITEM IS THE TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATED IN THE TRANSPORTATION ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY. UM, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HAS NO FRONTAGE OR ACCESS ON BURNETT ROAD. IT'S, IT, IT ALMOST HITS IT, BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE SURVEYS AND YOU GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AND, AND WALK IT OFF, UH, IT MISSES BY ABOUT A FOOT . UM, AND, AND CERTAINLY THEY DON'T HAVE DIRECT ACC, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO FRONTAGE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS EVEN IF THEY HAD A, UH, A COUPLE OF FEET OF, OF FRONTAGE. UM, AND, UM, THE PROBLEM IS THAT, UH, THE PROPOSED, SO IT HAS NO ACCESS ONTO BURNETT ROAD AND THE PROPOSED, UH, PROPERTY FRONTS, UH, ALREADY OVERLOADED NEIGHBORHOOD ROADWAYS, WHICH CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THE INCREASED TRAFFIC THAT A LARGE DEVELOPMENT IS LIKELY TO BRING. UM, THE BURN ACCESS, UH, IS CRITICAL TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY, UH, CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. UM, OUR PROPOSED SOLUTION IS TO BLOCK, UH, CLAY AVENUE AT THE SOUTHERN INTERSECTION WITH, UH, HOUSTON, SO THAT THE REMAINING SHORT SEGMENT OF ROADWAY CAN BE USED AS THE PRIMARY ACCESS POINT ONTO BURN ONTO BURNETT ROAD FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, WHICH IS A MAJOR, A MAJOR ARTERIAL. UM, ADDING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THIS INTERSECTION WILL ALLEVIATE THE ODD [00:20:01] GEOMETRY AT THE CLAY BURNETT, UH, INTERSECTION. UM, WE WOULD LIKE THIS SOLUTION TO BE ESTABLISHED BEFORE, OR, OR, OR WHATEVER THE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTION IS TO BE ESTABLISHED BEFORE REZONING. UH, SIMILAR TO THE, UH, RESOLUTION OF ACCESS THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BEFORE, REZONING AT A NEARBY APARTMENT BUILDING THE PEARL WITH WHICH WE ALSO WORKED WITH DAVID HARTMAN, UM, UH, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO. UM, AND THEN ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT I WANTED TO NOTE IS THAT THE EMAILED PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP, AND WE'D LIKE THOSE TO BE, UH, UH, UH, PUT, PUT INTO THE BACKUP. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL NOW HEAR FOR MR. CHICO. MR. CHICO, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. I MAY DISTRIBUTE, I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE MEETINGS ELECTRONICALLY, BUT, UH, ON THAT END, THINK THERE'S TWO THERE. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS CHAIR. UH, MY NAME IS GREG CHICO. I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BRENTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING CONTACT TEAM, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT. UH, AND ALSO, UM, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE, UM, CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE, UH, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT. AND DAVID HARTMAN IN PARTICULAR AS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING CONTACT TEAM, UM, DID VOTE AND OFFICIALLY, UH, VOTED 11 IN OPPOSITION ONE ABSTENTION, AND, UH, NO ONE IN SUPPORT. HOWEVER, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, UM, EXPLAIN, UM, ONCE AGAIN, AS BILL S WEISMAN JUST DID WHAT THE POSITION IS OF THE NEIGHBORS, AND THAT IS, THERE ARE MANY ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH ARE GREAT. UH, THERE ARE MANY ASPECTS THAT ARE GOOD AND, UM, IN GENERAL AS AN OVERALL TERM, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT OPPOSED TO IT. HOWEVER, THERE IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT THAT IS EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT IS TRAFFIC. UH, AS BILL MENTIONED, THE MAP THAT I JUST HANDED OUT TO YOU, UH, SHOWS THE OVERALL PROJECT, UM, WHICH ENCOMPASSES FOUR TRACKS OR FOUR LEGAL LOTS. UM, ON PAGE TWO OF WHAT I HANDED OUT TO YOU IS THE SURVEY OF THE SOUTHERN, UH, SOUTHWESTERN MOST, UH, LOTS THAT, UM, FRONT ON CLAY. AND THERE IS NO FRONTAGE ON BURNETT ROAD. AND IT'S MY, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE WHOLE CAVEAT OR CONDITION FOR, UM, DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS, UH, NATURE ARE THAT THEY FRONT ON LARGE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. AND THIS ONE DOESN'T, THAT'S NOT A HUGE ISSUE. UH, SOUNDS LIKE A TECHNICALITY, BUT IT IS CRITICAL TO WHAT REALLY IS THE BIG PROBLEM. AND THAT IS TRAFFIC. AS BILL MENTIONED, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING CONTACT TEAM HAVE DEVISED A PLAN. AND AS FAR AS WE KNOW, TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE APPLICANT SUPPORTS THIS, AND THAT IS TO ELIMINATE ACCESS, UM, ONTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND MAKE THE PRIMARY. AND WHEN I SAY ELIMINATE, I MEAN THE PRIMARY ACCESS BE ONTO CLAY. AND IF THAT IS EVER VACATED, GREAT, THAT BECOMES A DRIVEWAY BUT ORIENTED, ORIENTED TOWARDS BURNETT ROAD. AND THE BEST WAY IN WHICH WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT IS THROUGH BALLARD OR A SIDEWALK AT THE SOUTHERN RIGHT OF WAY, LINE OF HOUSTON STREET WITH ITS INTERSECTION OF CLAY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ASK. UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT COULD BE PART OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT, UM, AND ALL THE CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU REPRESENT. THAT'S THE ISSUE. OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MS. BARBARA MACARTHUR. MS. MACARTHUR, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US. WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THIS PROJECT, AND WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS. WE HAVE ONE ISSUE, THE TRAFFIC, THE [00:25:01] NOTICE THAT CAME TO OUR HOMES SAID THAT THIS PROJECT WAS ON BURNETT ROAD. IT, IT INCLUDED THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT'S SOUTH OF IT. THE REPORT WRITTEN BY STAFF OVER AND OVER SAYS, THIS PROJECT IS ON BURNETT ROAD. SO THE, THE STAFF REPORT INFERS THAT THIS PROJECT IS ON BURNETT ROAD. UM, THE ONLY ACCESS IS THREE STREETS THAT HAVE 27 FEET OF PAVEMENT. TWO OF THESE STREETS ARE INCORRECTLY LABELED AS COLLECTORS IN THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. ONE OF THOSE STREETS, HOUSTON HAS 3000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY, WHICH IS 300% OF THE RECOMMENDED OPERATIONAL CAPACITY. THIS STREET IS 26 FEET WIDE AND HAS PARKING ON BOTH SIDES FROM MOST OF THE STREET IN INCOMPLETE SIDEWALKS. MACEL HIGH SCHOOL IS LOCATED ON THE STREET. THERE'S A SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN'S SCHOOL ON THE STREET, TWO DAYCARES. AN APARTMENT COMMUNITY FOR DEAF AND BLIND PEOPLE IS LOCATED ON WILLIAM HOLLAND ACROSS THE, FROM THIS SITE. IT IS DANGEROUS AND DIFFICULT TO RIDE A BIKE OR WALK WITH CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES. YOU HAVE ABOUT 13 FEET, SO DRIVING IS ALSO CHALLENGING. AND THIS FLOODS TOO. UM, CARS CLOSE TO THIS PROJECT WERE COMPLETELY SUBMERGED. IN THE LAST BIG FLOOD THE CITY SAYS, DOCUMENTS SAID THE PROJECT WITH 350 UNITS WILL GENERATE 1,623 ADDITIONAL CAR TRIPS. WHEN I LOOKED IN THE, IN THE TRAFFIC MANUALS, IT SAID 2000 CAR TRIPS. WHEN WE MET WITH CITY TRANSPORTATION, THEY REMINDED US THAT ONCE THE PROPERTY IS ZONED MF SIX, THERE WILL BE NO LIMIT ON THE UNITS AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACT COULD BE HIGHER. WE'RE NOT SAYING DON'T GIVE THE ZONING. WE'RE SAYING PLEASE FIX, PLEASE FIX THE SOLUTION FOR THE TRAFFIC. IT SEEMED CLEAR THAT THE SOUTHERN PART OF CLAY, THIS PRO, THIS PROPERTY SPANS THE ENTIRETY WITH A SIGNAL ON BURNETT COULD DIRECT TRAFFIC UNDER BURNETT ROAD AND BALLARDS COULD BLOCK ACCESS TO HOUSTON ONLY EMERGENCY ACCESS FROM HOUSTON OR WILLIAM HOLLAND WOULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION. THIS PROVIDES THE NEW RESIDENTS WITH VEHICULAR ACCESS TO A LEVEL THREE STREET AT THE PEARL DEVELOPMENT ON CANAC. TRANSPORTATION ACCESS WAS WORKED OUT AT THE TIME OF ZONING AT CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT DEVELOPMENT ALSO HAD MUCH LARGER, LARGER ROADS. IT WAS ON CANING AND GROVER, WHICH ARE MUCH BIGGER THAN THESE STREETS. WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS SOLUTION. ONE FINAL CONCERN IS THAT TWO SECTION EIGHT LOW INCOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES WILL BE RAISED AND WE HOPE TO SEE MORE AFFORDABILITY IN THE NEW UNITS. THANK YOU. NOW HERE FOR THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. HI, UH, DAVE HARTMAN AGAIN, I WOULD JUST, UH, REITERATE MY PREVIOUS POINTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT HAS MULTIMODAL CONNECTIVITY IN TERMS OF BUS ROUTES, PROJECT CONNECT STATION. UM, AND THEN SECONDLY, THREE THINGS REALLY. SECONDLY, STATE THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED DIALOGUE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT ONLY THROUGH COUN CITY COUNCIL, BUT UM, THROUGH THE SITE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE THAT WE'LL UNDERTAKE AFTER THAT. AND THEN FINALLY, I'LL JUST STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, UM, VACANT, UH, APARTMENT PROJECT COMPLEXES ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THOSE HAVE BEEN VACANT SINCE OCTOBER, 2021. SO THANK YOU CHAIR. THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, THE MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, COMMISSIONER WOODS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER AAR. ANY OBJECTIONS, UH, CLOSING IN THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. UH, QUESTIONS. HE WANTS TO KICK US OFF. UM, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF ANY, UH, IF THE APPROPRIATE PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY MORE DIRECTED TO A T D. UM, BUT SO WE HAVE SOME TRANSPORTATION FOLKS WITH US ONLINE, UH, VIRTUALLY THAT CAN REACH, WELL, I'LL THROW THE QUESTION OUT THERE AND WHOEVER IS BEST FITTED TO TAKE A STAB AT IT CAN, BUT JUST REALLY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HEARING THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORS AND SORT OF THIS IDEA ABOUT POSSIBLY CLOSING OFF CLAY AVENUE OR SOME OTHER WAY TO DIRECT TRAFFIC ONTO BURNETT ROAD. I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, UM, IF ANY OF THESE SORT OF SOLUTIONS ARE VIABLE OR WHAT WOULD BE THE ISSUES WITH DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, OR IF THIS HAS BEEN LOOKED, NOT BEEN LOOKED AT YET? CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH. YES. HI. YEAH, I'M RENEE JOHNS. UM, I AM THE TRANSPORTATION REVIEWER IN T P W AS WE ARE NOW CALLED. UM, AND YES, WE HAVE HEARD THAT SOLUTION, BUT [00:30:01] NO, THE CITY DOES NOT SUPPORT, OR ATD DOES NOT SUPPORT BALLARDS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO RESTRICT ACCESS, ESPECIALLY DIRECTING ACCESS SOLELY ON CLAY WITHOUT A, UM, FULL LIGHT THERE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY NOT WARRANTED. WE'VE TALKED TO ARTERIAL MANAGEMENT ABOUT IT AS WELL, WOULD NOT BE A VIABLE OPTION AT THIS TIME. NOT TO SAY A DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES, IT COULDN'T BE A VIABLE OPTION. BUT AGAIN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS SUCCINCTLY, NO, WE DO NOT SUPPORT. OR, UM, COULD YOU RECOMMEND, UH, BALLARDS THERE, COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT THAT WOULD BE VERY TO THE RATIONALE FOR THAT? IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE RATIONALE FOR WHY NOT? WELL, IN GENERAL, WE DO NOT LOOK TO PUT BALLARDS FIRST IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY. UM, IT WOULD STOP WITH CONNECTIVITY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUSES OF, YOU KNOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, RIGHT? UM, ADDITIONALLY THAT WOULD PUT A LOT OF ACCESS ONTO CLAY AVENUE, WHERE AGAIN, THERE ARE UNSAFE TURNS, BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT. THERE'S CURRENTLY JUST A, UH, BEACON, A PEDESTRIAN BEACON, WHICH DOES NOT HELP WITH ANY KIND OF MOVEMENT, UH, VEHICULAR MOVEMENT. AND SO WE THINK THAT WOULD ACTUALLY CAUSE FURTHER ISSUES THAN SOLVE ANYTHING. SO NO, WE DO NOT SUPPORT THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ONE LAST FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR STAFF. WHEN YOU, UM, ARE IN SITE PLAN THINGS LIKE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SITE, THESE THINGS ARE LOOKED AT DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS? YES. SAFE ACCESS AND ACCESS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALL OF THAT? YES. THAT'S SOMETHING, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ALSO MENTIONED, UH, WHEN WE DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT IS THERE COULD POTENTIALLY EVEN BE A PARKING REDUCTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED AT SITE PLAN. UH, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT TYPICALLY COMES UP NOW AS A PART OF THE REZONING. OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. AND IF I HAVE A MINUTE LEFT, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, WHICH IS JUST THAT PARK SPACE, UM, THAT THIS PROJECT IS MAKING AVAILABLE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A A, A VERY COOL, UM, AMENITY THAT IN MANY WAYS IMPROVES THE WALKABILITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT SPACE IS OPEN TO ALL PEDESTRIANS WALKING BY THE SITE. IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY CLOSED OFF. YES, IT IS. IT'S OPEN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS WHO WANTS THE SECOND QUESTIONS LOOKING AROUND? UH, COMMISSIONER MU TYLER, THANK YOU. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY'S QUESTIONS TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE TO THE APPLICANT, UM, HAVE THEY LOOKED AT THE TRANSPORTATION CONSIDERATIONS AND ARE THEY SEEING THE SAME THING THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SEEING OR ARE THEY FEELING THAT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE THEY AGREE MORE WITH WHAT CITY STAFF IS SUGGESTING AT THIS POINT? I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS RESOLVED. I, I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS THAT THE, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY, THE CITY CONDUCTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND WE AS THE APPLICANT HAVE AGREED TO DO COMPLETE THE SIDEWALK GAPS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. UM, SO, AND, AND A LOT OF THESE ISSUES. PERFECT. I I MEANT IN PARTICULAR IN RE IN THE, THE REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO LOOK AT THE ROUTING AND THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY. YEAH. BLOCK, AGAIN, THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE GONNA BE PREDOMINANT, UH, BASICALLY ADDRESSED AT TIME OF SITE PLAN. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AT T D AND A T D WAS NOT, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF THAT PARTICULAR APPROACH, AT LEAST IN CONNECTION WITH THE ZONING CASE. AND SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED AT TIME OF SITE PLAN AND WE AS THE APPLICANT CERTAINLY COMMIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COOPER, BE COOPERATIVE AS WE CAN AND ADDRESS THAT AT TIME OF SITE PLAN. NO, IT'S NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY COME HERE AND HAVE WORKED OUT SOME OF THOSE, UM, CONCERNS BEFORE Y'ALL COME TO COMMISSION AND COUNSEL. SO APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. SO I GUESS THEN THE QUESTION GOES BACK TO, UM, UM, CITY STAFF, UH, AS TO THEIR THOUGHTS ON, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S, I KNOW YOU SAID THERE WERE, UH, TERMS THERE THAT YOU GUYS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH PEDESTRIAN PROBLEMS. SORRY, WAS THAT A QUESTION TO STAFF ABOUT PEDESTRIAN PROBLEMS? YEAH, I'M, I GUESS I'M STILL UNCLEAR AS TO WHY STAFF IS NOT SEEING THE SAME ISSUES THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEDESTRIAN PROBLEMS YOU'RE REFERRING TO ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE, SORRY, THEY, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC. YOU SAID STAFF WAS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST TO, UM, LIMIT ACCESS OR CORRECT. WE ARE NOT IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING BALLARDS [00:35:01] IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY CORRECT. TO LIMIT ACCESS WHEN YOU GO ON PLAY. SO YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO MAKE A RIGHT OR LEFT ONTO BURNETT AND AN UNRELATED UN SIGNALED INTERSECTION. AND YES, THERE IS A CURRENT PEDESTRIAN HYPER BEACON. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO, BUT THAT OKAY. DOES NOT HELP WITH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. I THINK ANOTHER THING, UM, OF NOTE IS REALLY THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES HAVE A POINT THAT YES, THE TRAFFIC ON THE STREET WILL BE NOTICEABLE AND STAFF DOES AGREE WITH THAT. HOWEVER, WE HAVE TALKED TO OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS, APOLOGIES, I HAVE A VERY LOUD LOCKED DOG IN THE BACKGROUND. I'M FOSTERING AT THE MOMENT, . UM, SO TO THEIR POINT, YES, IT'LL BE NOTICEABLE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER SIMILAR ROADWAYS, UM, THAT CLEAN IN THE CITY OPERATE, UM, CALM, GOOD AT, UH, OVER 4,000 TRIPS A DAY. AND CAN ABLY DO, I'M NOT SURE YOUR DOG AGREES , HE'S HAD A ROUGH TIME. HE'S HAD A ROUGH TIME . YEAH. AND SO, UM, WITH, WITH THAT SAID THAT THERE AGAIN HAVE BEEN SIMILAR, UM, ROADWAYS THAT HAVE OPERATED A MUCH GREATER CAPACITY, BUT AGAIN, IT WILL BE NOTICEABLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S POINT. UM, AND SO AGAIN, OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH WITHIN A T D OR T P W, WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO CALL US, NOW THEY LOOK MORE AND FOCUS ON CAPACITY AND SAFELY OR SAFETY RATHER THAN JUST STRAIGHT UP, UH, RIGHT AWAY WITH OR AS THE L D C I THINK DE DEFINES IT AS DESIRABLE, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, I THINK AN ITT TERM. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, RELIEF MEASURES THAT CAN BE DONE, UH, SUCH AS LIKE THE SIDEWALK THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE NTA? WELL, I THINK THIS IS ALL IN REGARDS TO VE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA BE ADDED TO THE ROADWAY THERE. AND THERE'S VERY LIMITED CAPACITY, NOT NECESSARILY THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE N T A AND FOR VEHICULAR, NO, BECAUSE AGAIN, ACCORDING TO OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS, THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING UP. THERE'S ENOUGH CAPACITY WITH THIS CURRENT ROADWAY. AND AGAIN, HEY, WE'VE HAD ROADWAYS THAT HAVE OPERATED AT OVER 4,000. SO AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY ABOUT 4,000. WE'VE HAD SIMILAR ONES THAT HAVE DONE 10,000 AND I'M, I'LL APOLOGIZE, I'LL MUTE MYSELF IN BETWEEN. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. I'M, I'M SEEING THE FRUSTRATION THERE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA BE LIVING IT IN THE NEW RESIDENTS THAT ARE GONNA COME AND LIVE, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON A REGULAR DAILY BASIS. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE RECONCILE THAT SO THAT IT MAKES IT A, A REALLY GOOD PROJECT THERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS. OKAY. UM, I SAW COMMISSIONER COX AND THEN FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER BADERA RAMIREZ AND THEN COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. YEAH. UH, FOLLOWING ON A SIMILAR TOPIC, I I CAN, I CAN SEE WHY A T D DOESN'T SUPPORT, UH, KIND OF CLOSING OFF CLAY AT HOUSTON. UM, TO BE HONEST, THAT RIGHT OF AWAY BETWEEN BURNETT AND HOUSTON STREET ON CLAY AVENUE REALLY SHOULD JUST BE ABANDONED. UM, AND THEN, AND THEN LET THESE FOLKS HAVE A DIRECT DRIVEWAY THAT COMES ACROSS LAMONT AVENUE. I, I'VE, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, UH, BEEN TO THAT THUNDER CLOUD, SC UH, CLUB'S, THUNDER CLOUD SUBS MANY TIMES. AND IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE MOST OF TRAFFIC'S PROBABLY GONNA GET ON HOUSTON STREET TO GO TO EITHER BURNETT OR LAMAR. SO MY QUESTION TO A T D IS IT SEEMS LIKE A HUGE IMPACT. THE HUGE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO SIGNALIZE THE INTERSECTION AT BURNETT HOUSTON AND WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING HOUSTON TO HAVE. AND THEN WE ALL KNOW THAT BURNETT IS JUST AWFUL, UH, TO TRY TO TURN ONTO, UH, FROM SIDE STREETS. I IS THAT NOT SUPPORTED, UH, WITH, WITH THIS PROJECT, UNFORTUNATELY WE LOOKED INTO THAT, WE TALKED TO ARTERIAL MANAGEMENT AND IT'S NOT WARRANTED AT THIS TIME. AND SIMILAR TO THE ONE TO THE SOUTH, WHILE IT'S NOT WARRANTED AT THIS TIME, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT CANNOT BE WARRANTED AT ANOTHER TIME. SO NOT JUST WITH THIS PROJECT, IT IS NOT WARRANTED. BUT YES, WE HAVE ALSO LOOKED AT THAT WRAP BASED ON EXACTLY YOUR REASONING. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE M U T C D WARRANTS FOR SIGNALIZATION. UM, I GUESS, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHICH WARRANT IT'S NOT MEETING? I DO NOT. THERE WAS QUITE, I THINK THERE WAS ABOUT SEVEN AND IT DIDN'T MEET SEVERAL OF THOSE SEVEN, BUT I DO NOT WORK FOR AURO MANAGEMENT, SO I DO NOT KNOW. SO I BASICALLY ASKED, HEY, IS THIS WARRANTED OR NOT WARRANTED? AND THEY SAID THAT IT'S NOT WARRANTED AT THIS TIME, BUT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AGAIN WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. [00:40:01] THAT'S SURPRISING TO ME. UM, CUZ I THINK HOUSTON STREET WOULD PROBABLY A GOOD PLACE TO ACTUALLY HAVE A SIGNAL CUZ YOU'VE GOT UH, I THOUGHT SO AS WELL. YEAH. BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AT THIS TIME, AGAIN, NOT TO SAY NOT WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, IT COULDN'T BE. SO THE OTHER UNIQUE THING ABOUT HOUSTON STREET IS THAT IT ACTUALLY DIRECTLY CONNECTS, UH, BURNETT ALL THE WAY TO LAMAR. UM, ONLY A FEW STREETS DO THAT. UH, SO I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY DO TO HOUSTON STREET AS PART OF THIS TO HELP LOWER SPEEDS MITIGATE THOSE TRAFFIC IMPACTS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ANTICIPATING ON HOUSTON STREET POTENTIAL POTENTIALLY. IS THERE LIKE A MORE INVOLVED T I A THAT WILL HAPPEN AS PART OF SITE PLAN? DOES THAT TRIGGER, DOES THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TRIGGER THAT ONCE THE PROJECT IS MORE FULLY DEVELOPED, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. SO WE COULD LOOK AT ASSESSED SPEEDS AND WHATNOT. THERE WOULD MOST LIKELY NOT BE A T I A TRIGGERED. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS ENOUGH TO TRIGGER A T I A, IT IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. UM, IT IS NOT DOING OVER, I THINK IT'S A NET OF 2000 TRIPS OR EVEN, I THINK IT'S MORE PER DAY. SO IT WOULD NOT TRIGGER A T I A, BUT IT'S NOT TO SAY WE COULDN'T DO OTHER MITIGATIONS AS WELL. YEAH, I MEAN, HONESTLY, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS NOT TOO DISSIMILAR THAN WHAT WE WENT THROUGH ON, ON, UH, BULL CREEK ROAD AND 45TH STREET. UM, YOU HAD ONE FORT LANE BUSY STREET AND THEN ONE SMALLER STREET THAT WAS GOING TO GET REALLY BUSY WITH DEVELOPMENT AND SIGNALIZATION REALLY HELPED WITH MAINTAINING THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE. AND SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN EXPLORE THAT DEEPER SIGNALIZATION AT HOUSTON AND BURNETT THAT WOULD BENEFIT EVERYONE. AND THEN ALSO MAYBE, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING OR, OR ROUNDABOUTS OR SOMETHING ALONG HOUSTON STREET, UH, TO SLOW THAT TRAFFIC DOWN BETWEEN BURNETT LAMAR. AGAIN, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AGAIN INTO THAT SIGNAL AGAIN AT THIS TIME IS NOT SUPPORTED BY ARTERIAL MANAGEMENT. HOWEVER, AGAIN, OTHER IN LIKE SPEED MITIGATIONS POTENTIALLY, AND ONCE THIS IS, UM, MORE ONLINE AND MORE BUILT AND COULD BE ASSESSED FURTHER, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE CANNOT DO THAT AND THAT COULD BE A GOOD IDEA. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER VATA RAMIREZ. YEAH, I THINK, UM, SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE STREET IMPACT FEE. SOUNDED LIKE THERE WOULD BE SOME STREET IMPACT FEES LEVIED. COULD THAT BE POTENTIALLY UTILIZED TO UPGRADE THE EXISTING PHB TO A SIGNAL? I THINK THE CITY, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THERE'S RIGHT OF WAY AVAILABLE THERE TO KIND OF, I THINK THE FIRST SPEAKER MENTIONED THE IDEA OF THE CITY INVESTING IN THAT, UM, IN THAT SIGNAL UPGRADING THE PHB. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THIS PROJECT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK YOU ASKED TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS AGAIN. ONE AGAIN IS I WANNA SET. SO STREET IMPACT FEES HAS TO BE ASSIGNED TO CURRENT, UH, ROADWAY CAPACITY PROJECTS AND A LOT OF THOSE ALREADY SPOKEN FOR. SO A LOT OF THAT SIF IS ALREADY SPOKEN FOR THAT WE'RE STARTING TO COLLECT. AND ONE OF THE ONES THAT WHEN I FIRST STARTED REVIEWING THIS BOTH, YEAH, THE ZONING CASE, UM, IS LOOKING AT, THERE WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, AN IDEA FOR HOUSTON, A SIGNAL AT HOUSTON AND, UM, BURNETT, HOWEVER, UM, THAT, AGAIN, WE TALKED TOURO MANAGEMENT, IT WASN'T WARRANTED, I APOLOGIZE AND JUST LEARNED ABOUT WARRANT, LIKE WHAT WARRANTY ACTUALLY MEANS, BUT IT WAS NOT WARRANTED ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT LEVELS. UM, AND SO IT WAS ACTUALLY NOT RECOMMENDED FOR BEING FUNDED BY THE STREET IMPACT FEE. AGAIN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE AT THIS TIME, UM, AND I DO NOT BELIEVE IT WOULD BE WITH HOW LAUN IS DONE, IF THAT WOULD ALSO MAYBE, AGAIN, IT'S CURRENTLY NOT EVEN ON THE ROADWAY CAPACITY PLAN AND ADDITIONALLY IT WAS NOT WARRANTED. BUT AGAIN, NOT TO SAY IT COULDN'T BE EITHER ADDED TO THE ROADWAY CAPACITY PLAN OR WARRANTED AT ANOTHER TIME. POSSIBLY IF I HAVE AMBER HUTCHINS ONLINE AND I'M GONNA PUNT AND SEE IF SHE COULD FURTHER CLARIFY THAT AS WELL. YEAH, I MEAN I THINK WHAT'S, WHAT THE REASON, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY, THE CITY HAS THEIR, UH, SIGNAL EVALUATIONS ONLINE AND, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE INTERSECTION AND WHERE THEY'VE STUDIED SIGNALS AND THIS ONE IS NOT RECOMMENDED. IT'S NOT CLEAR WHY, BUT I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS THAT YOU HAVE, IT'S NOT WARRANTED AGAIN. YEAH. THE ONE AT HOUSTON IS NOT WARRANTED, BUT THE CHALLENGE IS YOU HAVE THAT PHD JUST A BLOCK AWAY. AND UM, SO I WONDER IF THAT'S PART OF THE REASON IT'S NOT WARRANTED CUZ THEY DON'T LIKE TO HAVE SIGNALS WITHIN 300 FEET OF EACH OTHER. SO I MEAN, I THINK YEAH. UH, AND I NOTICED THAT THERE'S BUS STOPS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE P H B, WHICH IS A, A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SO [00:45:01] THAT YOU HAVE A, A PROTECTED CROSSING. SO I'M JUST WONDERING AGAIN, CAN THE SIF FUNDS BE USED TO UPGRADE THE P H B THAT'S THERE TODAY? HEY, UH, AMBER HUTCHINS TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS? YES. IF, IF WE WERE TO UPGRADE THAT TO A SIGNAL, IT WOULD BE A CAPACITY PROJECT. AND SO IF IT QUALIFIED FOR THAT, WE COULD ADD IT TO THE ROADWAY CAPACITY PLAN AND THEN USE OF FUNDS FOR THAT. I PERHAPS THE DISTANCE OF THAT PHB IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THAT SIGNAL. UM, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT ITEMS IN THE WARRANT WEREN'T MET. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, AGAIN, WITH PROJECTS LIKE THIS, GOING BACK AND REASSESSING AGAIN IS A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT TYPE OF ACCESS SO CLOSE TO BARNETT WOULD DEFINITELY, UM, TRIGGER THE DESIRE OR THE NEED FOR A SIGNAL IN THAT AREA. SO IT'S NOT THAT WE, IT'S, WE JUST DON'T WANNA GUARANTEE IT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY CONCERNED WITH THE AREA WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AND, UH, AS THIS PROJECT IS DEVELOPED, IF IT'S DEVELOPED, UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS REAL QUICK? OKAY. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. HEY, I THINK JUST TO COMMENT TO STAFF, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF BAD PRECEDENT IN AUSTIN WHERE WE KIND OF EXCLUDED NEW, NEW COMMUNITIES WOULD BE BUILT AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THESE UP AND DOWN I 35 WHERE THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET ONTO INTO THESE COMMUNITIES IS AN ACCESS ON OR OFF OF AN ACCESS ROAD, EVEN THOUGH IT'LL HAVE CRASH GATES TO AMAZING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE LOOKED A LOT INTO THESE OVER THE PAST OR THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND I WAS TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, WELL AT THE TIME FOLKS DIDN'T WANT THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO I, I LIKE HEARING THAT TRANSPORTATION IS LOOKING AT THIS HOLISTICALLY AND NOT JUST KIND OF REACTING AND GIVING A QUICK ANSWER OF, OH, YOU'RE AGAINST IT. SURE, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HAPPILY SAY NO ACCESS TO THE 350 FAMILIES. WE'RE ABOUT TO LIVE HERE. SO COULD STAFF WALK THROUGH KIND OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THIS BUILDING EVENTUALLY GETTING BUILT AS FAR AS DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT ACCESS POINTS WHEREVER YOU TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT DRIVEWAY ACCESS POINTS ONTO THIS? YES. AND SO WE WOULD JUST LOOK AT THE TCM. THE TCM GIVES US GUIDANCE ON WHERE TO DO IT, AND IT'S BASED ON FRONTAGE AND WHERE YOU'RE FRONTING MM-HMM. , AND IF I REMEMBER THIS ONE CORRECTLY, AND I HAVE IT ACTUALLY NOT IN FRONT OF ME, UM, IT IS ON THREE DIFFERENT SITES, SO THEY COULD TECHNICALLY HAVE ACCESS AND SPREAD IT OUT, WHICH IS ALSO SHOWN IN THE NTA AMONGST THREE DIFFERENT, UM, STREETS. NONE OF 'EM WOULD BE BURNETT BECAUSE AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAID, AND AS APPLICANT SAID, WHILE IT'S CLOSE TO BURNETT, IT ACTUALLY DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO BURNETT. SO AGAIN, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE ACCESS ONTO CLAY, UH, HOUSTON, AND THEN I BELIEVE WILLIAM HOLLAND AS WELL. AND SO, BUT AGAIN, AT THIS POINT WITH ZONING, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S FULLY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. LOVE IT. GREAT. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, UH, SEE COMMISSIONER ZA, AND THEN, UM, THAT'LL BRING US TO SIX. WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE IF NEEDED. UH, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I APPRECIATE IT. I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THAT I'M HOPING THE APPLICANT CAN HELP RESPOND TO ONE. MR. HARTMAN, I KNOW THAT YOU CLARIFIED EARLIER, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT YOU ARE, THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO PROVIDE VOLUNTARY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED FOR THE MF SIX PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. IS THAT CORRECT? IN ADDITION TO WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED DURING THE VMU PROGRAM? THAT'S CORRECT. WE INTEND A VMU TWO PROJECT ON THE VMU PORTION, WHICH WOULD OUR, OUR COMPONENT WOULD BE 12% AT 60% MFI. AND ON THE MF SIX PORTION WE WOULD MATCH THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL, UM, STEPPING UP TO DO THAT. UM, I I WOULD ALSO SAY I FEEL LIKE I, I WISH, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME ISSUE WITH SORT OF THE TIMING OF BEING ABLE TO DO A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT I WISH WE'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND HAVE THE ENTIRE SITE UNDER, UH, VMU. BUT I DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL VOLUNTARILY, UM, OFFERING US THAT, OFFERING THE COMMUNITY THAT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, I KNOW I'D HAD BRIEFLY, BRIEFLY A CONVERSATION WITH YOU EARLIER THAT THERE, THERE ARE A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF CURRENT SORT OF TENANTS ON SITE, IT SEEMS LIKE IN TWO UNITS. AND WOULD YOU OR THE APPLICANT CONSIDER AS PART OF YOUR INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY, DO, UM, HAVE SOME KIND OF RIGHT OF RETURN? SO ESSENTIALLY THOSE FOLKS WOULD HAVE ESSENTIALLY A RIGHT OF REFUSAL TO COME BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT ONCE IT IS COMPLETE, WHETHER THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS OR MARKET RATE UNITS IS TO BE SEEN. AND JUST FOR THE ELABORATE FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE TWO, UH, UNITS WITH TWO DIFFERENT COUPLES CURRENTLY ON SITE AND ABSOLUTELY YES IS THE ANSWER. I I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. [00:50:01] OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? I JUST HAD A FEW I'LL ADD ON. SO, UH, STAFF, I GUESS, UM, TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORK STAFF, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. THE ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED THAT THE, UH, TWO STREETS, UH, THAT WERE LABELED COLLECTORS, UH, THAT THEY WERE NOT ACTUALLY COLLECTOR STREETS. COULD YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT, WHAT THE STREET, HOW A STREET QUALIFIES TO BE A COLLECTOR STREET? I THINK THAT IS OLD TERMINOLOGY. THE A S P HAS BEEN UPDATED. IT WOULD BE, I BELIEVE EITHER LEVEL ONE, TWO, OR THREE. AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE LEVEL ONE STREETS, AND I CAN ACTUALLY BRING THIS UP, BUT THE, UM, LANGUAGE OF COLLECTOR IS JUST NO LONGER VALID. HOWEVER, IT'S STILL IN THE LDC, BUT NOT THE TCM OR THE AS S P, SO IT'S KIND OF CARRYOVER LANGUAGE. OKAY. UH, SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION. IF YOU GIMME A MOMENT, I CAN GET, UM, LET YOU KNOW WHAT EACH LEVEL IS. OKAY. YES, WE DO. UM, SO I JUST NOTICED THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE AS M P IS THAT THESE STREETS SHOULD BE MUCH WIDER. UM, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE, I MEAN THIS IS A ROUTE FROM BURNETT TO LAMAR, ONE OF THE FEW, I MEAN, FUTURE PLANS, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME MITIGATION STRATEGIES, BUT I MEAN, THIS SEEMS TO BE KIND OF A GREAT, UH, PEDESTRIAN MULTIMODAL PATH BETWEEN BURNETT AND LAMAR, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THE WIDTH. UM, WHAT, WHAT DO WE DO WITH STREETS LIKE THAT, THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHAT, HOW DO WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE FOR THESE KIND OF, UM, STREETS? YEAH, SO GOOD QUESTION. SO FIRST ANSWER, YOUR FIRST QUESTION, ALL THE STREETS SURROUNDING THIS SITE ARE LEVEL ONE. SO THEY'RE NOT, I GUESS, COLLECTOR STREETS. IT'D BE AS AND P LEVEL ONE STREETS. AND AGAIN, I THINK THERE IS SOME DISCREPANCY BECAUSE AGAIN, THE L D C SAYS ONE THING AND THE TCM AND AS AND P SAY ANOTHER. SO THERE IS KIND OF A LITTLE OUT OF LINKAGE. UM, AND THEN TO ANSWER YOUR OTHER QUESTION, SO DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, WE DO REQUIRE, UM, STREETS TO BE WIDENED, UM, TO EITHER, YOU KNOW, INCREASE TRAFFIC VOLUMES, BUT MORE LIKELY TO ALSO DO BACKUP CURB IMPROVEMENTS. SO TO GET, AGAIN, PEDESTRIAN BIKE LANES AS WELL. AND SO THAT WOULD BE HANDLED AT THE, UM, SITE PLAN PROCESS. AND THE VALUES ARE ALSO IN THE AS M P. AND SO LEVEL ONE STREETS WOULD MOST LIKELY ALL BE RECOMMENDING A 58 AND ASKING FOR A 58 RIGHT OF WAY. SO IT WOULD BE FROM THE CENTER LINE. AND SO EACH SIDE OF THIS WOULD BE A 29 FOOT ALMOST DEDICATION FROM THE CENTER LINE. SO LET'S SAY THEY HAD 20 FEET, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEDICATE ANOTHER NINE ON THEIR SIDE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, THAT, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN, UH, I GUESS I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION JUST ON HOW COMPATIBILITY, SO THIS IS FOR STAFF AFFECTS, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SITES. ONE'S AN MF SIX, ONE IS, UH, LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING AFTER THE VMU TWO. IT'S NOT IMMEDIATELY ON BURNETT. I DON'T KNOW IF IS THAT AN ISSUE, BUT SECONDLY, HOW DOES, ARE THERE DIFFERENT COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, UH, FOR THOSE TWO SITES GIVEN THEIR DIFFERENT ZONING? UH, SO THERE'S ONLY TWO TRIGGERING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. AND SO THEY WOULD PREDOMINANTLY, UH, IMPACT THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE THAT THE MF SIX. AND DOES THE OTHER ONE GET, UH, IS IT LESS IMPACTED FROM COMPATIBILITY? I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S A HUNDRED FOOT LIMIT I THINK ON VM U TWO. AM I, IF I'M, SO IS IT PRETTY MUCH NOT GONNA BE IMPACTED AT ALL? I DON'T THINK AT THAT POINT IN THE, IN THE SITE THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM. OKAY. AND, AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THE HIGHER, UH, DENSITY W WAS SOUGHT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER GIVEN THAT THEY WOULD BE IMPACTED ON A PORTION OF THAT SITE. OKAY. SO THEY WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BUILD OUT THE FULL ENTITLEMENT. UM, OKAY. THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ONE MORE SPOT. ANYBODY NEED IT? OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? ALL RIGHT. I MAKE A MOTION, UH, THAT WE GRANT THE STAFF APPLICATION, UM, ALLOWING FOR, UM, UH, CS M U V C O N P, UM, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, MF SIX MP ZONING. IS THAT CLEAR OR DO I NEED TO WORD THAT SOME BETTER WAY? RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. I'LL SEE, UH, COMMISSIONER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TTA RAMIREZ. ALL RIGHT. I DO WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER CONER. YES. UM, SO I WANNA SPEAK TO THIS MOTION BECAUSE I'M VERY [00:55:01] FAMILIAR WITH THIS. I ACTUALLY LIVED FOR YEARS IN THIS EXACT LOCATION, UM, ON THE, UH, AT THE KENSINGTON APARTMENTS OFF MONT AVENUE, JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS. AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS ACTUALLY, THIS LOCATION IS ACTUALLY AN EXCELLENT LOCATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS. AND I WANT TO KNOW, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT CAR, UM, TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, THIS IS ON A HIGH FREQUENCY BUS ROUTE. I REMEMBER WHEN I LIVED HERE TAKING THE BUS DOWNTOWN TO WORK, IT JUST MADE SO MUCH MORE SENSE TO TAKE THE BUS THAN TO DRIVE. I MEAN, IT WAS SO CONVENIENT. THERE ARE MANY AREAS IN OUR CITY THAT ARE NOT WELL SERVED BY TRANSIT. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ONE OF THEM. AND I THINK IF THERE'S ONE MEANINGFUL THING THAT THE APPLICANT CAN DO, UM, TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC SITUATION IN THE AREA, IT'S CONSIDER DECOUPLING PARKING UNITS FROM HOUSING IN ORDER TO BRING TENANTS WHO ARE CORE TRANSIT USERS AND WHO WILL, UM, PRIORITIZE RIDING THE BUS. THAT WOULD BE THE TRANSFORMATIVE THING. AND I HOPE THE APPLICANT WILL, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE EFFORT, UM, AS THIS PROJECT APPROACHES SITE PLAN TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT KIND OF SOLUTION. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOT TOO FAR IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE, UM, NOT SUPER FAR AWAY FROM THIS, THEY WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AT 38TH STREET PROJECT CONNECT OUR BRAND NEW LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM. THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EXTREMELY WELL CONNECTED AND TRANSIT RICH PART OF THE CITY, AND THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING THIS KIND OF DENSITY IN THIS PART OF TOWN. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WALK DOWN, BURN IT RIGHT NOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING THAT MAKES THAT WALK EXTREMELY HOT AND UNPLEASANT IS THE GIANT AMOUNT OF, UH, SURFACE PARKING AND THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER BY PAVED OVER CAR LOTS, USED CAR, UM, CAR SALES SPACES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. SO TRANSFORMING THOSE LAND USES INTO THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. OKAY. UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS WANNA SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. ANY, UH, SPEAKERS IN FAVOR? UH, COMMISSIONER CUTS. I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M, I'M REALLY IN THE CAMP OF WHAT THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES, UH, TOLD US. UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT. I, I, I WANT TO VOTE TO GREEN LIGHT, UM, THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE, BUT, BUT I AM REALLY FRUSTRATED THAT WE CAN'T DO A BIT MORE DUE DILIGENCE ON THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THAT THE SOLUTION IS THERE. UH, AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT THAT HARD TO IMPLEMENT AND NOT THAT COSTLY TO IMPLEMENT. UM, BUT I JUST FEAR THAT IF IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OF A ZONING CASE, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO HERE, UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS SIGNAL STUDY THAT HAPPENED ONLINE, IT SAYS IT HAPPENED A YEAR AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOT UPDATED. IT, THERE'S JUST, THERE'S JUST A LACK OF INFORMATION AND IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING. BUT, UH, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS HELD UP BECAUSE OF THAT. I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT STAFF DOES TAKE A LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION AGAIN ONCE THIS PROJECT IS BUILT AND NOT WAIT YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS UNTIL WE HAVE ACCIDENTS OR WHATEVER CAUSES US TO, UH, TO LOOK AT INTERSECTIONS. ALL RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONERS IN OPPOSITION IN FAVOR, IN FAVOR COMMISSION. HAYES, DID YOU WANT, I, THE ONLY COMMENT I WANNA MAKE, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN IS THAT, AND I'M, I'M I TRUST, UH, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS DONE IT IS, AND EVEN THOUGH I'M DONE, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MAC STUDENTS, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT CLAY AVENUE AND, UH, HOLLAND AVENUE OR THE, UH, OR I'M SORRY, HOUSTON AVENUE ARE THE TWO PRIMARY WAYS MAC STUDENTS GET TO MAC FROM ALLENDALE FROM OTHER PARTS. AND, UM, I DO YOUR TRANSPORTATION STUDY, BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT CUZ I HAD TWO DRIVERS THAT WE DID NOT LET GO ON 2222, THEY CAME DOWN TO HOUSTON AND CUT TO MAC AND W ATE AT, AT PAPA JOHN'S WAY TOO MANY TIMES AND THEY DID IT ON HOLLAND AND THEN CUT UP CLAY BACK TO SCHOOL. SO THAT'S GOTTA BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. YOU CAN'T CLOSE THOSE STREETS. OKAY. UH, WE ARE OUT OF, UM, UH, SPEAKERS THERE. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. THIS IS THE MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BEREDO RAMIREZ. AND THOSE ON THE DIOCESE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. THAT'S EVERYBODY AND THOSE ON VIRTUALLY, UM, [01:00:01] SHOW ME YOUR HAND OR YOUR GREEN. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT STAFF, I DO, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE BALLARDS THERE. I, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE LOOKED AT, BUT I THINK ECHOING COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONER HAYNES, I'VE HAD, UH, MY KIDS ALSO WENT TO LAMAR AND, UH, MACALLAN AND UM, YES, THIS STAND OUT. WE, YES. SO ANYWAY, PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. I THINK WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT A WAY TO, UM, PROTECT THOSE KIDS AND ALSO ALLOW FOR GOOD TRAFFIC OUT OF THAT, UH, UH, MUCH NEEDED DEVELOPMENT. SO, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO SEE WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. [17. Rezoning: C14-2023-0039 - 1705 and 1707 Evergreen; District 5] UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM AND UH, COMMISSIONER AZARO WILL KEEP YOU STRAIGHT HERE. . YEP. WE HAVE, IS IT ITEM 17? YEP. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONER SHERRY SIRIS WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS AGAIN IS ITEM NUMBER 17, WHICH IS CASE C 14 20 2339, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 1705 AND 1707 EVERGREEN AVENUE. THE REQUEST IS FROM SF THREE ZONING TO CSM U ZONING. LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THIS TO PAN DOWN. NOPE, IT'S STUCK. THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR C S M U GENERAL COMMERCIAL SERVICES MIXED USE, COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING. THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION CONSISTS OF TWO LOTS MAKING AT 0.6 29 ACRES. FRONTING EVERGREEN AVENUE THAT ARE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND OUT BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH THERE IS AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT AND THERE IS A MULTI-FAMILY USE BEHIND THIS PROPERTY TO THE EAST, THERE ARE RAILROAD TRACKS ACROSS EVER EVERGREEN AVENUE TO THE WEST. THERE'S A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE AND A PERSONAL SERVICE USE A HAIR SALON. THE LOTS TO THE SOUTH CONTAIN SINGLE FAMILY SHORT TERM RENTAL USES THAT ARE ZONED CSM U ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUESTING CSM U ZONING TO REDEVELOP THIS SITE WITH OFFICE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS GENERAL COMMERCIAL SERVICES MIXED USE, COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING BECAUSE THE PROPERTY MEETS THE INTENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS. THE PROPERTY IS ONE BLOCK FROM AN ARTERIO ROADWAY SOUTH LAMAR BOULEVARD AND IS LOCATED IN AN AREA WHERE REDEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE A MIXTURE OF OFFICE, COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC USES THAT WILL SERVE THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THERE IS A PRECEDENT IN LAND USE PATTERNS FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, AND WEST. THE CY OF CONSIDERATION IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL ZONING AND USES AS THERE IS CS AND CSV ZONING TO THE NORTH CS, C O, AND CS ZONING TO THE WEST AND CS M U ZONING TO THE SOUTH ALONG EVERGREEN AVENUE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN 0.08 MILES FROM THE SOUTH LAMAR ACTIVITY CORRIDOR NEAR THE METRO BUS RAPID LINE, AND ALONG SOUTH LAMAR BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR AND IS ADJACENT TO AN URBAN TRAIL NETWORK ALONG THE RAILROAD TO THE EAST. AND THE APPLICANT AGREES WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. NICKEL MEAD WITH HU BLACKWELL HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS CASE. I KNOW THAT IT WAS PULLED BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A, A NEIGHBOR I BELIEVE, WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO I'M REALLY HERE TO JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS, UH, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. DREW ZUKI, CHAIR, COMMISSION LIAISON, AND I APOLOGIZE, UM, WHAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER TABLING THIS ITEM FOR A FEW MINUTES WHILE WE GET A HOLD OF THE, UH, SPEAKER. MR. RIVERA, DO YOU WANT US TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM OR JUST WAIT TO WAIT? CUZ IT'S A VERY LONG ITEM TO BE HONEST. WE CAN. OKAY. UH, SHOULD WE, WELL, IT'S ONLY EARLY FOR A BREAK. WE CAN DO A FIVE MINUTE BREAK IN THE YEAH, LET'S, UM, LITTLE EARLIER THAN I WANTED, BUT LET'S GO AND TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. JUST COME BACK AT ABOUT SEVEN 18, UM, AND THEN WE'LL RECONVENE, THEN [01:05:07] IT'S GONNA TAKE OUR SEATS AND KEEP BLOW FORWARD. COME BACK ON THE, UH, SCREEN HERE AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON IT, AND THEN JUST GO A LITTLE LONGER THAN I SHOULD APOLOGIZE. ALL RIGHT. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. WE WILL HAVE GO. WE CAN GET STARTED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, ALL RIGHT. WE, UH, BRING THE MEETING BACK TO ORDINANCES, UH, 7 24, AND WE HAVE DREW, UH, SADECKI ON THE LINE. OH, RIGHT HERE. OKAY. WELL COME ON UP AND, AND ARE YOU SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR? UM, HOPEFULLY JUST INTERIM OPPOSITION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. HELLO, MY NAME'S DREW ZECK AND I LIVE, UM, VERY NEAR THE PROJECT AT, UH, 1705 AND 1707 EVERGREEN. AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS PICTURE ALONE IS GONNA JUST LIKE, HAVE YOU DENY THE, UH, UH, THE PROPOSAL, BUT, UH, BASICALLY IT'S, UH, THE STREET IS, IS TOO NARROW FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT AS IS. UM, BUT IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH JUST THAT PICTURE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP LISTENING. UM, MY GOALS HERE ARE TO, UM, REALLY SAY THAT THE TIME IS RIGHT TO REZONE EVERGREEN. I DO THINK THAT, UH, BUT WE NEED TO POSTPONE THE DECISION UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS, BECAUSE IT'S A COMPLICATED AREA. AND I THINK THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. UM, NEXT SLIDES WE GO. OKAY. UM, AND I THINK THE, THE IMPORTANT THING I THINK TO KNOW IS THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION, OR, OR YOU ALL KNOW MORE THAN ME, NEEDS TO, UH, CONSIDER THE ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC USES IN THE AREA. UM, AND WHAT'S ANTICIPATED HERE IS THE SOUTH LAMAR, UH, BOULEVARD CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT PLAN. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO, UH, ANTICIPATE AND IT'S GONNA DRASTICALLY CHANGE EVERGREEN. AND THE PROJECT, UH, THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MOST IS AT THE SOUTH LAMAR BOULEVARD, UH, PROJECT AT, AT WEST MARION EVERGREEN. SO WHERE I'VE INDICATED THAT'S THE INTERSECTION, KIND OF WHERE I LIVE, AND THE ONE I THINK THAT'S THE MOST KIND OF PROBLEMATIC FOR THE PROJECT. UM, I'VE GOT THAT PICTURE AGAIN, OTHER PICTURES OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE ON EVERGREEN, UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DRIVE, IT'S, IT'S TOO NARROW, IT GETS TOO BACKED UP. UM, IT'S A LEVEL ONE STREET, THESE CLIPS. THE FIRST WAS FROM, UH, I GUESS THE CITY. IT'S A LEVEL ONE STREET WITH JUST, UH, 23 FEET OF EXISTING PAVEMENTS. AND THE CODE SAYS, YOU KNOW, LEVEL ONE, UH, DOESN'T MIX WELL WITH MIXED USE. SO TO ME, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF INCOMPATIBLE, UM, AND, UH, DON'T PROMOTE THE PUBLIC GOOD. UM, SO EVERGREEN IS TOO NARROW. THE SMALLEST PICTURE I SAW HAD 28 FEET OF PAVEMENT. UH, EVERGREEN HAS 23 EVERGREEN NOW ALSO HAS PARKING, AND IT'S JUST LIKE ON ONE SIDE, IT'S RIDICULOUS. UM, BUT WE GOTTA MOVE ON. UM, VEHICLES PER DAY LEVEL, ONE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE 1200, RIGHT? LESS THAN 30 FEET. UM, THE, OKAY, SO THEN THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SAYS IT'S GONNA MOVE FROM 15 TO 300. MEANWHILE, LIKE I ADDED IT UP, 1 52, 1 63 EQUALS 315 TRIPS. UM, BUT REGARDLESS, UH, THE APPLICANT WANTS LIKE OVER 25% OF THE STREETS EXISTING TRIPS. UM, SO HERE'S THE THING THAT'S, THAT'S CAUSING IT ALL. IT'S THAT THE, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A ROUNDABOUT AT THAT INTERSECTION OF WEST MARY AND EVERGREEN, UM, [01:10:01] WHEREAS USED TO, YOU COULD GO, UH, ON THAT LEFT PICTURE, YOU COULD GO KEEP GOING DOWN MARY STREET AND TURN LEFT TO GO SOUTHBOUND ON THE MAR. UM, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NOW IS ALL THAT TRAFFIC IS GONNA HAVE TO GO DOWN EVERGREEN BECAUSE THE CITY INSTEAD IS FUNNELING TRAFFIC THAT WAY AND THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A NEW SIGNAL. UM, WHERE THAT PICTURE TO THE RIGHT IS, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THAT CODE SECTION I LIKE, WE GOTTA REASONABLY ANTICIPATE THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT WANTS TO GO LEFT, AND NOW IT'S GOTTA GO DOWN EVERGREEN SMALL STREET, UM, 20 SECONDS. SO WE GOTTA CUT TO THE CHASE. THE HELSINKI PARTNERS OWNS NOT JUST 1705, THERE, THEY OWN THAT WHOLE THING. THEY OWN 360 FEET, RIGHT? SO WE NEED A RIDE OF WAY. SO THE CITY SAYS WHAT WE NEED 29 FEET, BUT LIKE 29 FEET WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE ALL THE WAY ACROSS. UM, AND IT MEANS WE NEED PAVEMENT NOT RIGHT OF WAY IN TREES. WE NEED PAVEMENT. UM, I GUESS I SHOULD STOP TALKING. WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? UH OH, OKAY. YEAH, IT'S THE, THAT IS THE BUZZER TIME UP THAT IF YOU HAVE KIND OF CLOSING REMARKS, UM, I HAVE A CLOSING VIDEO THAT WOULD KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TIME. UM, UM, FOLKS, I THINK, DO YOU WANNA WATCH THE VIDEO? ANY OPPOSITION? PARDON? WHAT'S THE DURATION? IT'S PART OF THE BACK. I SAW IT. I'M SORRY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, WE WILL HAVE Q AND A AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SEE THE VIDEO, THEY CAN ASK TO SEE THE VIDEO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHERYL WILL HANG OUT HERE FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. COULD I, CAN I GET MY PRESENTATION BACK UP? UM, SO WHEN, WHEN, SO MY CLIENT DOES OWN THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WHICH, UM, STATUS LABS, THEY'VE TURNED INTO THEIR OFFICE. IT WAS, IT'S A REALLY VERY AMAZING HISTORIC PROPERTY THAT WE CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO REZONE IN 2020 DURING COVID. AND AT THAT TIME WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE CITY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION WITH REGARD TO MARY, WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH LAMAR. AND WHAT CAME TO LIGHT AT THAT TIME WAS THAT THERE IS A PLAN FOR THAT AREA. THERE WILL BE A ROUNDABOUT THAT THE CITY, UH, TRANSPORTATION, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS DETERMINED IS A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA. AND THEN THERE WILL ALSO BE A TRAFFIC LIGHT. WE ALSO WILL BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES, UM, ALONG EVERGREEN. AND WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO SHOW YOU IN THE PRESENTATION IS EVERYTHING AROUND US IS ALREADY CS. UM, THIS IS A LOT THAT, UM, IS KIND OF THE LAST PIECE OF SINGLE FAMILY LEFT. UM, AND WE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT KIND OF DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE FOR IT TO STILL REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY. BUT WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING TO DREW IS THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING BIG PICTURE AT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION ON LAMAR. UM, THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, LAMAR IS AN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR, A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR. IT'S ON METRO RAPID BUS. ALL THIS IS LIKE LESS THAN HALF A MILE AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY. WE ALSO HAVE AN URBAN TRAIL BEHIND THE PROPERTY THAT IS, RUNS ALONG THE, THE RAILROAD LINE. SO I THINK THAT IT'S NOT GOTTEN FOR, IT'S NOT BEEN FORGOTTEN THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON LAMAR. AND I THINK THAT THE CITY'S DETERMINATION THAT THE ROUNDABOUT WILL HELP THAT IS, IS A GOOD ONE. I THINK IT WILL. AND I, I AM PRETTY SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS PUSHING FOR THAT ROUNDABOUT TOO, BECAUSE THEY ASK US TO SUPPORT THAT ROUNDABOUT BEING CONSTRUCTED WHEN WE CAME BEFORE YOU FOR ZONING IN 2020. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT? YES. DO YOU HAVE, UH, MUCH TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, COMMISSIONER AZAR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. ANY OP OPPOSITION YOU CAN SEE? YEAH, WE NEED TO SEE SWITCH OVER. ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSITION TO, UH, MOTION? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO Q AND A. WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? ALL RIGHT. YES, THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER BETA RAMIREZ, AND, YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTER GOES TO BECKER, WHICH IS AROUND THE CORNER, AND WE [01:15:01] WERE GOING TO MARI'S, WHICH IS ON LAMAR AND RIDING OUR BIKES. AND GOOGLE TOLD ME TO USE THIS EVERGREEN ROAD. I'D NEVER BEEN ON IT BEFORE. AND THE PARKING IS ATROCIOUS THERE. I DON'T, IT'S AT 23 FEET OF, OF SPACE. THERE SHOULD NOT BE PARKING ON THAT ROAD AT ALL. SO I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION FOR STAFF. HAS THERE BEEN CONSIDERATION OF RESTRICTING PARKING ON THIS VERY NARROW ROADWAY? AND I THINK WE LOST OUR T P W PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY. A TRANSPORTATION PERSON. YEAH. UM, COMMISSIONER RIVERA RAMIREZ. WE DON'T HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE WITH US ANYMORE, SO, OKAY. I DON'T BELIEVE WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO RESTRICT PARKING ON EVERGREEN, CUZ I THINK THAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM. AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THROUGH A ZONING CASE. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS LOOKED AT BY A T D PW. YEAH. T P W T P W, YES. YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THAT'S ALL I HAD. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? UH, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL? YEAH, I HAVE QUITE A FEW THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS CASE. UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA ECHO COMMISSIONER COMMENTED THAT IT IS A DIRECT ROUTE TO, UM, A MAJOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND PEOPLE USE THIS ROAD ALSO. IT'S NOT BEEN NOTED IN, I THINK ONE OF THE MAPS THAT CAME UP. THIS IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE UNION PACIFIC CROSSING, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FEW SOUTH LAMAR AT GRADE CROSSINGS. IT GETS CONSISTENTLY BACKED UP DURING THE 2016 MO MOBILITY POND. IT WAS DECIDED THAT THE ROUNDABOUT WOULD BE PUT IN THERE, SO IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER ROUNDABOUTS ON MARY. HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY CRITICIZED BY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND OTHER TRANSIT ADVOCATES AS AN INCORRECT USE OF A ROUNDABOUT BECAUSE OF THE RAILWAY ACCESS. SO I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED, DEAR, HEAR THE, UM, APPLICANT HERE SAYING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FACTUALLY INCORRECT. WE'VE ASKED REPEATEDLY FOR ATD AND OTHERS TO RECONSIDER THIS ROUNDABOUT AND TO LOOK AT THE PARKING SITUATION ON EVERGREEN. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR US TO BE APPROVING ADDITIONAL ROAD TRIPS ON, ON AN UNSAFE ROAD. I SUPPORT A REZONING IN THIS CASE, BUT I DO NOT SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC THAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS AREA. IT'S UNSAFE, IT'S UNWISE TO CONTINUE AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. MR. . OKAY. COMMISSIONER MUTO. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, I, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SECOND VERSE, SAME AS THE FIRST. UM, WE ARE SEEING REPEATEDLY WHERE THE OPPOSITION IS NOT IN, IN THE PROJECT OR BRINGING IN HOUSING AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED. UM, VERY ENCOURAGED WHEN I SEE THE DEVELOPERS PARTNERING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCT A PLAN THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE AREA. THAT'S A WIN FOR OLD AND NEW RESIDENTS COMING. BUT THIS TRAFFIC ISSUE IS REALLY CONCERNING. AND, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE NEARBY SCHOOLS. UM, AND SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE, I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR DIRECTIVE ON THE ZONING IS JUST TO CONSIDER THE ZONING, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THE PROCESS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OF THESE WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE PROPER STUDIES AND THINGS TO, UM, TO HELP FRAME THE ZONING AND ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES SO THAT THE PROJECT TURNS OUT CORRECT. WE'RE GONNA BE BACKFILLING ALL THESE PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD AND THE NEW RESIDENTS ARE GONNA WONDER WHAT IN THE HECK WE WERE THINKING. ? UM, IF I HAVE A FEW MINUTES LEFT, I, I GOTTA SEE THE VIDEO THAT'S GONNA KNOCK MY SOCKS OFF TONIGHT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE LEFT ON THE CLOCK. MIGHT MAKE MY HUSBAND YEAH. DO WE HAVE THE VIDEO AND THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, IF IT GOES LONGER, WE CAN USE MY TIME. YEAH. YEAH. NOT A LOT OF ROOM, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP EITHER. OOPS. THAT WAS AN LEGALLY PARKED CAR. OH, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. . HEY. HUH? CAR? NO, JUST, UH, TAKING EVIDENCE ABOUT LIKE HOW CROWDED THIS IS. RIGHT? IT'S PRETTY BAD. . WELL, WE'VE, WE'VE CREATED BLIND CORNERS WITH KIDS CROSSING. THAT'S A PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT, I SUPPOSE. BYE NOW EVERYBODY KIND OF GETS THE PICTURE. [01:20:01] ANYONE NOT GET THE PICTURE? UH, MAYBE WHAT'S THE DATE? YEAH, AND THEN THIS GUY'S STILL HERE. HE WAS NICE. I SUPPOSE I'LL TRY TO CROSS AT SOME POINT. ALL RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST I'M NOT MAKING IT UP. RIGHT. HERE WE GO. I HOPE Y'ALL MAKE IT. YEAH, SORRY. THEY PROBABLY CAN'T SEE. I HAVE, YEAH, I MAY COME ON LATER. WHAT'S THE DATE? APRIL 29. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, SO, UH, WE HAD A TIME ON COMMISSIONER MUSH TYLER. YEAH, I DIDN'T HEAR THE BUDGET. OKAY. I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME. SO THAT BRINGS US TO, UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER ZA. THANK YOU CHAIR. MS. MEAD, IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THE PROJECT AND SORT OF THOUGHTS AROUND OFF STREET PARKING AND WHAT YOUR CLIENT IS . SURE. THOUGHTS AROUND PARKING. YOU SAID COMMISSIONER OFF STREETE PARKING AND OTHER IDEAS WITH THE BUNCH, LIKE WHAT'S SORT OF EXPECTED? YEAH, SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON ON THAT STREET AND AS YOU SAW FROM DREW'S VIDEO, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO PARK WHERE IT SAYS DON'T PARK, RIGHT? SO MAYBE ENFORCEMENT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED. SO THE THE, THE IMPETUS BEHIND THIS PROJECT IS FOR PER PERHAPS TO REDUCE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE STATUS LABS WOULD LIKE TO PUT HOUSING THERE FOR THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES. AND SO IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT LOT. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT A TON OF UNITS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE THAN 20 UNITS ON THE SITE BECAUSE OF FLOODPLAIN THAT RUNS THROUGH THE SITE. SOME DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE THERE BEFORE WE HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. SO THAT'S REALLY THE IDEAS TO PUT SOME OFFICE RESIDENTIAL AND POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF A RETAIL USE TO SERVE OUR OFFICE COMPLEX, WHICH IS ALSO TO THE SOUTH. AND, AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING PARK, WE PROVIDE IT, NOW WE HAVE OUR OWN PARKING, NONE OF OUR FOLKS ARE PARKING ON THE STREET AND WE WOULD PROVIDE IT FOR THE NEW PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO TO, WE WOULD LOVE FOR PEOPLE TO NOT PARK ON EVERGREEN. ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO TO HELP THAT WE'D BE HAPPY TO. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE ISSUE IS PEOPLE, IS THE PARKING ON A STREET THAT IS TOO NARROW? EVENTUALLY EVERGREEN WILL BE BIGGER BECAUSE THE CITY IS REQUIRING DEDICATION OF SOME RIGHT OF WAY. BUT FOR NOW IT SEEMS AS IF THE SOLUTION IS THAT WE NEED TO ENFORCE PEOPLE PARKING ALONG THE STREET, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP WITH. IF WE CAN, JUST REAL QUICK, I JUST BEEN TOLD WE DO HAVE TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO THEY ARE NOW OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT CHAIR. UH, MS. ME JUST TO CONFIRM TWO QUICK THINGS BEFORE I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF, WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S SORT OF LIKE A WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT. THE IDEAS REALLY DO HAVE HOUSING FOR THE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE GONNA LIKELY BE WORKING ON THE SITE, IT SOUNDS LIKE. CORRECT. THAT'S HONESTLY AN EXCITING FEATURE CUZ TO YOUR POINT, THAT REDUCES TRIPS AND IT'S, UM, AND ALSO THIS WAS, I KNOW IN THE BACKUP AS WELL, BUT THE CITY IS REQUIRING A RIGHT OF WAY. SO ESSENTIALLY IF THIS MOVES FORWARD AT THIS POINT, Y'ALL WILL BE MAKING A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS SORT OF FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH I KNOW AGAIN, THE CITY HAS TO TAKE THAT UP IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S RIGHT. WE WILL INEVITABLY HAVE TO PAY SOME TRAFFIC MITIGATION, BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN TOLD WE WILL HAVE TO DEDICATE 30 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY. I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I GUESS I'LL QUICKLY ASK OUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF A QUESTION. I KNOW MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLLOW UPS AS WELL, BUT CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SORT OF JUST THE PLANS FOR EVERGREEN AND MARY AND HOW WE'RE HANDLING SORT OF FUTURE PUBLIC WORK AROUND TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT IN THIS AREA? UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CORPORAL BARUA, ACTING ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN TRANSPORT PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND OBVIOUSLY AS YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT EVERGREEN STREET IS A UPPER STANDARD STREET. IT'S AN AREA STREET AND, UH, THERE ARE SOME, UM, PARKING ON THE STREET AS WELL. UH, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK ON THE STREET, SO DEFINITELY WE CAN SEE, UM, AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE OUT THERE. SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. DEFINITELY. AND ON THE SAME NOTE, YES, YOU KNOW, THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT IS, UM, DUE FOR UPGRADING. [01:25:02] UM, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE WAY WE CAN UPDATE THE STREET IS TO GET THE RAT DEDICATION FROM THE EGYPTIAN PROPERTIES. YOU KNOW, AS ALL THESE, UH, PROPERTIES COME IN FOR REDEVELOPMENT, WE CAN, UH, GET THE RIGHT FOR DEDICATION AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE UPDATES. SO IT IS THE, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL QUESTION LIKE DO WE GO FOR DENSITY FIRST OR DO WE UPGRADE THE STREETS AND THEN GO FOR DENSITY? UH, BUT WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT TO UPGRADE THE STREET, WE NEED THE RIGHT OF FOOT AND TO NEED TO GET THE RIGHT OF FOOT, WE NEED TO GO FOR THE DENSITY. I I APPRECIATE THAT. ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP IS, IS THE WORK AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT AND OTHER THINGS ARE HAPPENING, I'M GONNA ASSUME THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AND OTHER SORT OF CONVEYANCE FOR PEDESTRIANS AS WELL TO NAVIGATE THAT. IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? CORRECT, YES. FOR ANY ROUNDABOUT WE NEED TO PROVIDE SAFER PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, UH, NOT ONLY FOR PEDESTRIANS, BUT ALSO FOR BICYCLISTS. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE ANY CHALLENGES, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M PERSONALLY, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ROUNDABOUT DESIGN, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY TALK TO OUR DESIGNERS AND SEE LIKE HOW WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE LIKE HOW CAN WE MAKE IT BETTER. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. THANKS. QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ZONING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND TRANSPORTATION STAFF IN CONTROLLING THE STREETS AND DOING WHAT WE FEEL WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY TO MITIGATE FOR WHATEVER WE NEED TO MITIGATE FOR WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY? NO, AS YOU HEARD FROM RENEE JOHN'S EARLIER, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS ZONING CASE. ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN REVIEW. UNDERSTOOD. GREAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER COX? UH, COMMISSIONER FOX. THANK YOU. I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL ASKED HER QUESTIONS BEFORE TRAFFIC STAFF WAS AVAILABLE, AND I'M HAPPY TO DONATE MY TIME TO HER IF SHE WANTS TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK TRAFFIC STAFF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. COMMISSIONER COX? UM, YES, IF I COULD ASK JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE MOBILITY BOND WORK HAS BEEN PUSHED TO 2024, UM, AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT. UM, OBVIOUSLY BEEN WAITING FOR THESE UPGRADES SINCE 2016. SO WE'RE QUITE FRUSTRATED, A, THAT THIS IS STILL IN PROCESS AND B, THAT THERE ISN'T BEEN ONGOING. AND MY BEST QUESTION IS ESSENTIALLY HAVE WE REEVALUATED CAREFULLY THE NEW NEEDS OF ROADS SUCH AS EVERGREEN IN THE PLAN, GIVEN THE CHANGES, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ALONG SOUTH OF MARS SINCE 2016? UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I THINK THAT IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. AND AS YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THE NEW, UH, CAPITAL DELIVERY DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, AN INTENT TO REEVALUATE LIKE OUR PROGRESS ON, ON THE 2016 MOBILITY BOND. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG WE HAVE TO GO TO DELIVER ALL THESE PROJECTS. IS IT REALLY PRACTICAL TO, UH, ASSUME THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DELIVER EVERYTHING? SO WE ARE TRYING TO SEE LIKE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDING. SO THAT PROCESS IS UNDERWAY. COMMISSIONER. GREAT. GREAT. AND ONE OTHER QUESTION, UM, HAVE WE CONSIDERED, OR HOW DO YOU MEASURE THE IMPACT OF THE UP CROSSINGS THAT HAPPEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES A DAY? BECAUSE AS WE HAD NOTED IN THE BOTH THE TRAFFIC, THE VIDEO THAT WE SAW, AS WELL AS IN GENERAL, THAT ROAD GETS VERY BACKED UP BOTH ONTO LAMAR AS WELL AS ONTO EVERGREEN. SO WHILE THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN MAKES SENSE IN THEORY AT LEAST SEVERAL TIMES A DAY, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED IN PRACTICE. SO HOW HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE UP SORT OF RIGHT OF WAY THERE AND HOW IT IMPACTS TRAFFIC USAGE IN THE AREA? UM, COMMISSIONER, I NEED TO GO BACK AND, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THE DETAILS. YOU KNOW, I WAS NOT, UH, THE REVIEW ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY TALK TO STAFF AND SEE LIKE WHAT CONSIDERATION THAT GIVEN TO THAT PARTICULAR STUDY. THANKS. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COX. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, COMMISSIONER ZAR CHAIR WILL MAKE A MOTION. DO MOVE STAFF APPROVAL, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION. ALL RIGHT. STAFF RECOMMENDATION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? UH, LET'S SEE. COMMISSIONER MUTO SECOND SET. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? SURE. I, I, YOU KNOW, I, UH, I DO WANNA SAY A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS AND ONE, I WANNA SAY I DO APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS ON TRAFFICKING. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL IS YOURS AS WELL. I, AND I DO WANNA APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT HONESTLY THE APPLICANT HAS PUT INTO LOOKING AT SORT OF OFF-STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, WORK LIVE REQUIREMENTS, THE WAYS TO ESSENTIALLY MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE FACTORS. I DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S WORK ON THAT. AND THEN ALSO STAFF'S, UM, SORT OF GUIDANCE IN OUR UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS WORK WILL PROCEED. I THINK I WILL MAKE A COMMENT THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE, AGAIN, IN REEVALUATING THE WORK THAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED FOR HERE TO [01:30:01] MANAGE THE TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE AND BIKE BED INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE, WE ARE RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCWELL, I'VE USED THE STREET MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE IT IS A WAY TO CUT ACROSS THE RAILROAD. SO THIS ONE REMAINS A PRETTY POPULAR ONE AND THERE'S SOME GOOD RESTAURANTS THERE. SO, HAVING SAID THAT, I, I DO THINK IT'S A WORTHY PROJECT TO BE SUPPORTED BECAUSE I THINK WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS OF COURSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN ALIGNMENT WHAT IS THERE IN THE NEIGHBORING TRACKS. IT DOES MAKE IT ALL BECOME MORE COHESIVE IN THE WAY THAT THE STREET FUNCTIONS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH THE RIGHT, RIGHT OF WAY, UM, DEDICATION AND OTHER THINGS IN THE FUTURE, HOPEFULLY THE CITY CAN MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY. THANK YOU, CHAIR. OKAY. ANY COMMISSIONERS IN OPPOSITION? UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, THOSE IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, OBVIOUSLY AS I INDICATED I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE AS MENTIONED BEFORE, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THIS AREA. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT ADDITION TO SOUTH LAMAR. I THINK THE FRUSTRATION IS, AS YOU ALL MAY HAVE HEARD, WE'VE ALREADY HEARD A CA CASE ON EVERGREEN THAT WILL LIKELY ALSO END UP IN V VM U WE HAVE THIS CASE, SO THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IN THIS CASE IS NOT THEORETICAL. IT ALREADY EXISTS AND THERE'S ALREADY TRAFFIC ISSUES. SO AGAIN, WHILE I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS A GOOD CASE AND WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ZONING, I DO WANNA BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE CON CONCERNS RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY AND OUR RESPONSE TO IT. I THINK IT'S GREAT TO BUILD MORE HOUSING, BUT WE DO ALSO HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT HOW AND WHEN OUR ROADS ARE BEING USED IN THOSE CONTEXTS. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE HAD TWO CASES TONIGHT WHERE THERE'S BEEN REAL TRAFFIC CONCERNS RAISED, AND I'M NOT SURE WE GOT QUITE ADEQUATE ANSWERS. SO I APPRECIATE THIS CHANGE IN ZONING, BUT I DO WANT TO NOTE THOSE CONCERNS. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE COMMISSIONERS YOU WANNA SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? FOUR REAL QUICK? OKAY. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON HAD HIS HAND UP. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LOUD TOO. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. NO, MA'AM, WE DON'T HAVE, LET'S GO FIRST. OKAY. COMMISSIONER COX. UH, I, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS BRIEF OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SPEAK MY MIND A LITTLE BIT. UH, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS OVERWHELMED. WE ALL KNOW THAT. WE ALL SEE THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON. EVERYBODY'S INTERSECTION IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR EVERYONE. AND, AND OUR TRAFFIC STAFF, OUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF, OUR DEVELOPMENT STAFF, OUR WATER WASTE FOR OUR STAFF, THEY, THEY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY WEEK DOING INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO I, I, I REALLY, I HOLD STRONG BELIEF THAT DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF LIFE, EVEN THOUGH IT PUTS PRESSURE ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. ONE THING WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING IS, IS ATTACHING TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT DEVELOPERS CAN DO THEMSELVES TO MITIGATE THEIR OWN IMPACT, WHICH IS A POSSIBLE THING. IT IS ALLOWED IN CERTAIN CONDITIONS BASED ON THE LEGAL MEMO THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED. SO IT DOES, IT'S NOT REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS CASE, BUT I DO HOPE THAT COMMISSIONERS ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT FOR FUTURE CASES, FOR LARGE PROJECTS WHERE WE CAN POTENTIALLY RELIEVE SOME OF THIS WORK FROM OUR OWN CITY STAFF, OUR OWN CITY RESOURCES, AND PUT THAT ON THE DEVELOPERS TO MITIGATE THEIR OWN IMPACT. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. UH, AND OBVIOUSLY I'LL SUPPORT THIS CASE. OKAY. UH, LET'S GO AHEAD. YOU WANNA SPEAK SUPER QUICK? YES. OKAY. UM, I, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS TODAY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, AND THEN I SAW A VIDEO WHERE A LOT OF VEHICLES WERE MOVING SLOWLY AT SPEEDS THAT TYPICALLY DON'T KILL ANYBODY. AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNTS OF DEATHS ON THE ROADS RIGHT NOW IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. AND SO I JUST WONDER, LIKE IF WE HAD THE OPPOSITE, IF WE HAD 23 FOOT CLEAR, WOULD IT BE SAFER? WOULD IT BE SAFER IF VEHICLES FELT SAFE GOING 40 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THIS ROAD? I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD. AND SO WHILE MAYBE WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS AN IDEAL, I DON'T THINK THE OPPOSITE IS IDEAL EITHER. AND SO HOW DO WE GET TO WHAT IS IDEAL? I DON'T KNOW. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S JUST SO MANY PEOPLE DYING AND, AND INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE REQUIRES 20 FOOT CLEAR, AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT STILL DEMANDS 25 FOOT CLEAR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGES SPEED. AND THE MORE SPEED, THE FASTER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE WIDER IT IS, THE FASTER PEOPLE GO, THE FASTER PEOPLE GO, THE MORE PEOPLE DIE. SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT TO THINK THROUGH HERE, AND I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, WHEN I SEE VEHICLES MOVING SOLELY, I'M NOT NECESSARILY OFFENDED BY THAT. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. OKAY. LET'S GO AND TAKE A VOTE ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION. UH, MUCH OF MY COMMISSIONER ZAR SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MUTO. UH, THOSE ON THE DICE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, THAT'S EVERYONE AND THOSE VIRTUALLY SHOW ME YOUR GREEN OR YOUR RAISE YOUR HAND, DECIDE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT'S ALL OUR DISCUSSION CASES. UH, THANK YOU. UM, WE DID VERY WELL THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. MOVING THROUGH THREE THAT QUICKLY. UM, NEXT ITEM [26. Staff presentation and possible action regarding draft schedule for land development code amendments.Presenter: Stevie Greathouse, Planning Department, stevie.greathouse@austintexas.gov, 512-974-7226. (Sponsors Chair Shaw and Commissioners Azhar and Anderson)] WE HAVE ITEMS FROM COMMISSION. [01:35:02] SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, AND I'LL GO AND READ THIS, UH, STAFF PRESENTATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING DR. UH, DRAFT SCHEDULE FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS. AND WE HAVE STEVE GREATHOUSE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT GONNA GIVE US A QUICK PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH OUR REGULAR, UM, Q AND A AND SEE IF WE WANT TO PROPOSE ANY, UH, ACTION ON THIS SIDE. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR COMMISSION. STEVE AGREED HOUSE. I'M A DIVISION MANAGER IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE ALSO, I BELIEVE, HAVE OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR ACTUALLY ON WEBEX THIS EVENING, AS WELL AS SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE INTERDEPARTMENTAL, UM, CODE CABINET, UM, WHO WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER, UM, THE QUESTIONS AT THE END. UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT AN UPDATE ON THE TIMING OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS TO YOU THIS EVENING. UM, AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET'S GET STARTED. AS THE MEMBERS OF PLANNING COMMISSION ARE AWARE OF THE CITY'S WORK TO DEVELOP AND TO MAP A COMPREHENSIVE REVISION TO OUR OUTDATED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS SUSPENDED IN 2020. SINCE THEN, THE URGENCY AROUND UPDATING PROVISIONS OF THE CODE THAT ARE NO LONGER MEETING OUR NEEDS HAS ONLY GROWN. AND CITY COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE INITIATED MORE THAN 60 AD HOC AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. OVER A THIRD OF THOSE AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, AND OF THOSE THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN ADDRESSED, AROUND A DOZEN ARE MOVING TOWARDS REVIEW AND ADOPTION. IN THE SHORT TERM, THE REMAINING AMENDMENTS HAVE EITHER BEEN INITIATED RECENTLY OR ARE MORE COMPLEX AMENDMENTS INVOLVING MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL NEED TO BE FURTHER DEVELOPED BEFORE REVIEW AND ADOPTION CAN BE SCHEDULED. IN ADDITION, MANY OF THE OUTSTANDING AMENDMENTS ARE OVERLAPPING IN NATURE OR MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE BETTER ADDRESSED THROUGH A CONSOLIDATED APPROACH UNDER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. VERONICA BRNO'S LEADERSHIP STAFF RECENTLY FORMED AN INTERDEPARTMENTAL CODE CABINET, WHICH WILL HELP TO ENSURE COORDINATION OF CODE AMENDMENTS ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. IN PARTICULAR, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE CODE CABINET WILL BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN HELPING TO OVERSEE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MORE COMPLEX CODE AMENDMENTS. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS RECENTLY ESTABLISHED A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT SUPPORT TEAM THAT IS TRACKING ALL ACTIVE CODE AMENDMENT CASES AND HELPING TO ENSURE THAT INDIVIDUAL CODE AMENDMENTS PROCEED SMOOTHLY THROUGH THE CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS FROM INCEPTION TO ADOPTION. AT THE MAY 23RD MEETING, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS RECEIVED A PRESENTATION FROM THE CODE CABINET THAT PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS CURRENTLY IN PROCESS, AND PRESENTED INFORMATION ABOUT WHICH AMENDMENTS WOULD ADDRESS HOUSING ISSUES AS WELL AS THE LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY OF EACH OF THE AMENDMENTS. DURING THAT MEETING, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE DISCUSSED POSSIBLE PRIORITIZATION OF CODE AMENDMENTS AND BEGAN TO DEVELOP A CODE PRIORITIZATION MATRIX. AT THE JUNE 6TH COUNCIL WORK SESSION, STAFF PRESENTED INFORMATION ABOUT THE TIMING OF FUTURE CODE AMENDMENTS, INCLUDING A CODE AMENDMENT SCHEDULE. AND AT THE JUNE 8TH COUNCIL MEETING COUNCIL TOOK ACTION TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH CODE AMENDMENTS UNDERWAY AND TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE ON PRIORITIZING, UM, AND ORGANIZING CURRENT AND FUTURE POTENTIAL LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS FOR THE GREATEST IMPACT ON HOUSING. IN THE BACKUP FOR TODAY'S MEETING, YOU WILL FIND A MEMO FROM THE DIRECTORS OF THE PLANNING AND HOUSING DEPARTMENTS THAT INCLUDE SEVERAL ATTACHMENTS. ATTACHMENT A PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS. ATTACHMENT B PROVIDES A DRAFT SCHEDULE FOR ALL ACTIVE CODE AMENDMENTS. ATTACHMENT C PROVIDES MORE INFORMATION ABOUT EACH OF THE ACTIVE CODE AMENDMENTS. ATTACHMENT D INCLUDES A MEMO THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE ON BY THE CODE CABINET ON MAY 23RD. THE DRAFT SCHEDULE PROVIDED IN ATTACHMENT B WAS DEVELOPED IN CONSULTATION WITH CODE CABINET DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, HOUSING DEPARTMENT, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT, AND THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. IN CONSULTATION WITH ADDITIONAL LEAD DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN DEVELOPING THE DRAFT SCHEDULE, STAFF CONSIDERED ITEMS THAT WERE ALREADY WELL UNDERWAY AND IDENTIFIED BY THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE AS ITEMS TO KEEP ON THE CURRENT TIMELINE, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE'S PRIORITIZATION, DISCUSSION, STAFFING AND RESOURCE AVAILABILITY, BOTH IN TERMS OF LEAD DEPARTMENT RESOURCES AND THE RESOURCES OF SUPPORTING DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE LAW DEPARTMENT AND OTHERS DEPENDENCIES AND LOGICAL ORDERING OF AMENDMENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE EQUITABLE T O D OVERLAY DEVELOPMENT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE LARGER CHANGE TO CITYWIDE PARKING MINIMUMS BEING ADDRESSED. FIRST, THE POTENTIAL FOR GROUPING AND CONSOLIDATION OF RELATED AMENDMENTS. THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED FOR POTENTIAL CONSOLIDATION ON THE DRAFT TIMELINE GENERALLY FALL INTO TWO CATEGORIES, EITHER THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED THROUGH A BROADER AMENDMENT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN OR WILL BE INITIATED. AND EXAMPLES OF THESE INCLUDE MODIFICATIONS TO, UM, CITYWIDE PARKING REGULATIONS, MODIFICATIONS TO CREATE A SITE PLAN, LIGHT PROCESS, AND MODIFICATIONS TO COMPATIBILITY [01:40:02] OR SECOND CATEGORIES, THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS ADDRESSING THROUGH A MORE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OR A MORE COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT, INCLUDING THE APPROACH TO DENSITY BONUSES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE CREATION OF NEW ZONES. WHEN CO WHILE CODE AMENDMENTS MAY VARY IN COMPLEXITY AND DEPARTMENT LEAD, THEY MUST ALL FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFIED IN CHAPTER 25 DASH ONE, ARTICLE 11 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND MUST MEET THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS SPECIFIED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS INCLUDES THREE PRIMARY PHASES, INITIATION, DEVELOPMENT, AND ENGAGEMENT, AND REVIEW AND ADOPTION. DEPENDING ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE AMENDMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT AND ENGAGEMENT PROCESS MAY VARY IN LENGTH WITH SIMPLE CODE AMENDMENTS, WITH FEW CONCERNED STAKEHOLDERS TAKING FOUR MONTHS OR LESS. WHILE OTHER HIGHLY COMPLEX AMENDMENTS COULD TAKE MORE THAN 12 MONTHS. PART OF THE RANGE OF TIMING IS BECAUSE ENGAGEMENT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT CODE AMENDMENTS. SIMPLE CODE AMENDMENTS MAY INVOLVE NO ENGAGEMENT BEYOND LEGAL NOTIFICATION AND REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS. WHILE MODERATELY COMPLEX CODE AMENDMENTS MAY ALSO INCLUDE TARGETED OUTREACH TO KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND HIGHLY COMPLEX, IMPACTFUL CODE AMENDMENTS SUCH AS DEVELOPMENT OF THE EQUITABLE T O D OVERLAY WILL REQUIRE ROBUST ITERATIVE ENGAGEMENT PRIOR TO CODE DEVELOPMENT. SO ATTACHMENT A, UM, IN THE MEMO THAT IS PROVIDED AS BACKUP, PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS. CODE AMENDMENTS MAY BE INITIATED AS YOU KNOW, BY EITHER CITY COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION. ONCE THE CODE AMENDMENT IS INITIATED AND A LEAD DEPARTMENT IS IDENTIFIED, STAFF WILL TYPICALLY, UM, WORK THROUGH A PROCESS TO DEVELOP THE CODE AMENDMENT TO CONDUCT ANALYSIS, UM, AND TO WORK AND TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AS NEEDED, DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY. AND FINALLY, TO DEVELOP A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, BASED ON THAT WORK, ONCE A DRAFT CODE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, IT WILL GO THROUGH A REVIEW, AN ADOPTION PROCESS THAT INCLUDES REVIEW BY THE CODES AND ORDINANCES, JOINT COMMITTEE REVIEW AND PUBLIC HEARING BY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THREE RATINGS AT CITY COUNCIL. NOTIFICATION IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL HEARINGS, AND THE LAW DEPARTMENT WILL BE INVOLVED IN REVIEW AND AT ORDINANCE PREPARATION. THESE SLIDES PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN OF THE DRAFT SCHEDULE THAT IS PRESENTED AS ATTACHMENT B OF THE MEMO. THROUGHOUT THE DRAFT SCHEDULE, YOU WILL SEE ITEMS THAT ARE LIKELY TO IMPROVE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY OR SUPPLY MARKED WITH A HOUSE ICON. THE FIRST PART OF THE SCHEDULE PRESENTS A TIMELINE FOR THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE HAS INDICATED ARE TO BE KEPT ON THE CURRENT TIMELINE AND INCLUDES SEVERAL CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTION LAST WEEK, OR THAT WILL BE COMING TO THE CODES AND ORDINANCES, JOINT COMMITTEE PLANNING COMMISSIONER CITY COUNCIL OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. THE SECOND PART OF THE SCHEDULE PRESENTS A TENTATIVE TIMELINE FOR THOSE ACTIVE AMENDMENTS THAT STAFF WILL BE TAKING UP NEXT. THIS PART OF THE SCHEDULE INCLUDES SEVERAL AREAS WHERE WE ARE RECOMMENDING GROUPING OR CONSOLIDATION OF RELATED AMENDMENTS. IN PARTICULAR THE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS AND MODIFICATION TO COMPATIBILITY, A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF POTENTIAL MODIFICATION TO DENSITY BONUSES, AND A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS AND DEVELOPMENT OF POTENTIAL NEW ZONES. AS INDICATED IN THE MEMO, THIS TIMELINE REFLECTS A PHASING OF AMENDMENTS BASED ON AVAILABLE RESOURCES. HOWEVER, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WOULD ALSO BE NEEDED TO TAKE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACHES TO DENSITY BONUS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW ZONES THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED IN THE TIMELINE. THE FINAL PART OF THE SCHEDULE INCLUDES A LIST OF CODE RELATED STUDIES OR ANALYSIS THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, AS WELL AS A LIST OF PREVIOUSLY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING BE ADDRESSED THROUGH ANOTHER AMENDMENT OR THROUGH A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH. COUNCIL MEMBERS ENGAGED IN A ROBUST DISCUSSION OF CODE AMENDMENT TIMING DURING THEIR WORK SESSION ON JUNE 6TH AND AT A HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING EARLIER TODAY. KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM TODAY'S DISCUSSION, UM, WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE INCLUDE, UM, THE NOTION THAT THERE WOULD BE A STANDING ITEM RELATED TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT TIMING THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE ON ALL FUTURE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THAT STAFF WILL KEEP THE TIMELINE, UM, THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN THE GANTT CHART FORMAT, UM, UP TO DATE AND PROVIDE IT, UM, REGULARLY TO THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE. AND HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE. MEMBERS ALSO ASKED ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHICH ITEMS ON THE LIST MIGHT BENEFIT FROM CONSULTANT AUGMENTATION. UM, WHICH THE RESPONSE TO THAT WAS THE DENSITY BONUS. UM, COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT DENSITY BONUSES, THE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT, UH, CREATING NEW ZONES AND A POTENTIAL COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO COMPATIBILITY HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH PARKING MODIFICATIONS COULD BE SPED UP OR BROKEN INTO PHASES, UM, THAT WILL BE FOLLOWING UP, [01:45:01] UM, TO RESPOND TO THAT INQUIRY. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS ALSO DISCUSSED A POTENTIAL UPCOMING INITIATION RELATED TO AMENDING LOT SIZES. AND FINALLY, UNDER A RELATED ITEM, THEY ALSO BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THE FORTHCOMING RESOLUTION, UM, ABOUT BRINGING BACK RELATED CODE AMENDMENTS AND BEING ABLE TO BREAK CHANGES INTO DIFFERENT PHASES. UM, AND WITH THAT, I WILL PAUSE AND HAPPY TO FIELD QUESTIONS OR, UM, BRING CODE CAT MINUTE MEMBERS UP TO ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. AND, UH, COULD YOU JUST REPEAT WHO AGAIN, WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS? UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE, UH, LAUREN MIDDLETON PRATT, WHO'S OUR, UM, PLANNING DIRECTOR. UM, WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORK STAFF, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SEEING UPAL ON SCREEN NOW AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING JUST BASED ON WHAT'S ON WEBEX, BUT WE'LL, ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAG SOMEBODY IN . OKAY. RECOGNIZE DIRECTOR. OH, SURE. YES. UM, SO DO YOU WANT TO GO IS I'M, I'M LOOKING AROUND. DO WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR? YES. PLANNING HERE? YEAH. LAUREN, UH, MIDDLETON PRATT IS AVAILABLE VIA WEBEX, I BELIEVE, BUT SHE ON THE SCREEN. ON SCREEN, YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE HER. UM, I'VE MET, UM, UM, THE DIRECTOR AND, UH, I THINK, UM, I'M VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE DIRECTION SHE WANTS TO TAKE THE DEPARTMENT, AND, UH, IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T MET HER YET, I'M SEEING IF SHE'LL SHOW UP HERE JUST SO WE CAN ALL RECOGNIZE, RECOGNIZE HER AT SOME POINT IN THE EVENING. UM, WE'LL, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE HER ON THIS ONE. AND I ALSO AM JOINED BY, UM, NEWLY ANNOUNCED PERMANENT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ANDREA BATES. CONGRATULATIONS, . ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S, UH, GET STARTED. LET'S, UH, WE'LL KEEP IT INITIALLY AT, UM, UH, EIGHT AT FIVE, BUT, UH, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS BY, UH, COMMISSIONERS, SO WE CAN EXTEND IT IF WE NEED TO. UH, WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? COMMISSIONER MU TYLER. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA BE QUICK, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I'M GONNA LISTEN TO WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS SAY. UM, I'M THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. UM, THIS WILL BE GOOD FOR PUBLIC TO KNOW HOW THE PROCESS IS GONNA BE LAID OUT AS WELL AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ADDRESSING. I'M JUST VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS. UM, AND I'M SURE, UH, COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY WOULD BE VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS. UM, SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND I'LL LISTEN TO WHAT, AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF WHO I, WHO FELT LIKE THEY'VE BEEN BUMP GETTING PULLED IN ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF DIRECTIONS TO HAVE A, A NICE LAYOUT OF, OF WHERE WE NEED THIS TO GO. THIS IS, THIS IS GOOD. SO MY THANKS. BYE. MR. COX, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? HELLO? COMMISSIONER COX, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? OH, NO. OKAY, WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST, UM, WHILE THERE'S A PAUSE HERE, UM, I TOO AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS SCHEDULE. I'M A PROJECT MANAGER ENGINEER, SO ANYTHING WITH THE GANTT CHART I GET VERY EXCITED ABOUT. IT'S LIKE PEOPLE ARE DOING GOOD PLANNING, UM, LOVE THE COLORS. THIS IS VERY INFORMATIVE FOR THE PUBLIC TOO. I GUESS FOR THOSE OF US MANY HERE THAT WERE, WENT THROUGH SEVERAL VERSIONS OF THE LAND CODE, UM, A LOT OF HARD WORK, UH, AND WORKING ROOFS, UH, BY SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS HERE. AND IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS BROAD APPROVAL EVEN BY COUNCIL ON, UH, ON SEVERAL AREAS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD. I MEAN, SOME OF THESE AREAS HAVE WE HAD ENOUGH DEBATE. DO YOU FEEL THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, THAT THERE'S BEEN KIND OF A HISTORY OF PRETTY GOOD EVALUATION AND PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT? I MEAN, WAS THAT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION KIND OF THE, THE HARD WORK THAT'S ALREADY GONE INTO SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT, UH, WERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD IN THE PREVIOUS LAND CODE OR ELEMENTS OF THERE? YEAH, SO CERTAINLY, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH PROCESSING PARTICULAR AMENDMENTS OR COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENTS TO PARTICULAR PORTIONS OF OUR EXISTING CODE, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE LOOKING TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN CREATED, UM, THAT WORK IS, IS STILL, UM, WITH US TO BE ABLE TO USE A SOURCE MATERIAL. UM, AND CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE STARTING OVER ANY CONVERSATIONS. UM, I THINK JUST KIND OF BASED ON OUR SORT OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE WORKING IN THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A VERY ENGAGED COMMUNITY THAT NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY HERE TODAY WAS THERE FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO DAYLIGHT THINGS ENOUGH TO [01:50:01] HAVE, UM, ENOUGH ENGAGEMENT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND KIND OF MEET OUR GOALS FOR TRANSPARENCY AS A CITY. BUT ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL BE BUILDING ON THE WORK THAT HAS COME BEFORE US AND NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH. AND ON COMPATIBILITY. THAT ONE WAS TAGGED FOR, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS CONSULTANT AND, UH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. I KNOW THAT'S A VERY TOUCHY AREA, BUT WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU BE STUDYING, I GUESS CUZ CITIES HAVE VARIED COMPATIBILITY LIMITS. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO REALLY STUDY THAT, UH, TO GET IT RIGHT, I GUESS, FOR AUSTIN. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY, , UM, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TURN THAT QUESTION OVER TO, UH, RACHEL TEPPER WITH OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT. OKAY. WHO IS ONE OF THE CODE CABINET MEMBERS ON SCREEN THAT IS CURRENTLY LEADING EFFORTS TO DEVELOP THE COMPATIBILITY STUDY THAT WE'LL BE HEADING BACK TO COUNCIL IN JULY. SO, OKAY. THANK YOU RACHEL. UH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. ARE YOU MUTED? OH, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, WE CAN. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, YEAH, SO OUR COMPATIBILITY STUDY WAS ACTUALLY INITIATED BY THE, UM, BY THE COMPATIBILITY ON CORRIDOR'S ORDINANCE. AND, UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW COMPATIBILITY IMPACTS OUR STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT GOALS. AND SO YES, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT COMPATIBILITY DISTANCES TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND IF WE COULD MAXIMIZE, UM, OUR, OUR HOUSING CAPACITY BY REDUCING DISTANCES. WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, BECAUSE COMPATIBILITY, AS WE HEARD TESTIMONY AT THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE TODAY, COMPATIBILITY AFFECTS MISSING MIDDLE DIFFERENTLY THAN IT AFFECTS, YOU KNOW, UH, C S M U OR, YOU KNOW, VERTICAL MIXED USE, UH, LARGE CORRIDOR, UM, DEVELOPMENT. AND SO, UH, THIS STUDY WILL ALLOW US TO PROVIDE THE BEST RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN ON, UM, HOW THIS REGULATION, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS OUR STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT GOALS. AND SO IT HASN'T TAKEN VERY LONG FOR US TO DO IT. IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING TO RELEASE THE, THE FINDINGS, UH, LATER THIS SUMMER. UM, AND SO IT'LL, IT'LL BE A LOT OF GROUNDWORK TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING ON THE AMENDMENT. OKAY. AND IF I COULD TO ADD ON TO THAT, SO ONCE THE STUDY IS RELEASED IN JULY, WE WOULD BE TAKING THAT KIND OF WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND HOUSING DEPARTMENT MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL AT A RESOLUTION THAT THEY ACTUALLY JUST APPROVED, KIND OF DIRECTING, UM, ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO COMPATIBILITY TO DEVELOP THOSE AMENDMENTS. UM, AND THAT'S WHEN, DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY OF THE AMENDMENT THAT ENDS UP, UM, BEING WHAT IS RECOMMENDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT INVOLVED JUST IN BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT AND TEST IT OUT, UM, WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS AS WELL. OKAY. AND THEN I AM, I REALLY INTERESTED THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, UM, JUST AS MORE OF A COMMENT IS WHEN THAT WAS PASSED, VERY EXCITED. THE SITE PLAN, ACCELERATED SITE PLAN REVIEW KIND OF GOT DELAYED AND I THINK I HEARD FROM SO MANY DEVELOPERS THAT WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN USING THIS TOOL, BUT THAT WAS THE MISSING PIECE, UH, FOR THEM. AND, UH, YEAH, IF WE, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET THAT KIND OF ACCELERATED. AND SO IT IS A COMPANION TO THAT, UH, GREAT CODE THAT WAS, UH, PASSED. UH, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO SUPPORT YOU ALL? I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE ACTION WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS EVENING. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, UH, YOU WOULD ASK OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, TONIGHT? UM, I MADE, UH, ASK LAUREN TO POP IN WITH ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS, BUT JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES IN PLACE TO DO THIS WORK, UM, WHICH HAS ALREADY KIND OF BEEN A CONVERSATION. WE'D WELCOME THAT CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE. BUT THEN I THINK IN ADDITION, REALLY GETTING IT TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE, UM, SORT OF A SYSTEM IN PLACE AND A PIPELINE FLOWING TO BRING THESE KINDS OF, UM, INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSIONS THROUGH THE CODES AND ORDINANCES, JOINT COMMISSION TO PLAN AND COMMISSION TO COUNCIL, UM, IN WHERE WE GET INTO A HABIT OF DOING IT AND KIND OF HAVE THE, THE, THE CONVEYOR BELT OF CODE AMENDMENTS, UM, ROLLING SMOOTHLY, IF YOU WILL. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST YOU ALL SHOWING UP TO YOUR MEETINGS AND, UH, REVIEWING CODE AMENDMENTS AS THEY MOVE FORWARD, FRANKLY. OKAY. I THINK, UM, I, I HEAR YOU THERE AND I THINK OUR CODES AND NOS, UM, UH, I KNOW WE'VE HAD ON TURNOVER, IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH TO GET, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MOVE INTO GETTING COMMISSIONERS ASSIGNED, GETTING THEM APPROVED ON THESE VARIOUS JOINT COMMITTEES. SO WE HAD A LITTLE DELAY TO WHERE WE COULD MEET, UM, I THINK MAYBE JUST A FEW TIMES, BUT I THINK THAT GROUP HAS, UH, WHEN I SERVED ON IT, WE WERE READY AND, AND [01:55:01] READY TO ACT ON WHATEVER STAFF BROUGHT TO US. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED AND IF WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME EXTRA MEETINGS, UH, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN SCHEDULE THOSE TO GET THINGS MO KEEP THINGS MOVING. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THE NEXT CODE'S A ORDINANCE IS JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING IS LIKELY TO HAVE FIVE OR SO ITEMS ON IT, SO WE'RE MOVING 'EM FORWARD. GOOD NEXT WEEK, A WEEK FROM WEDNESDAY, , SO I GOT OFF JUST IN TIME. . NO, I, I'M EXCITED. YOU HAVE A GOOD GROUP AND I THINK THEY'LL GIVE YOU REALLY GOOD, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL RIGHT. UH, I'M DONE. WHO'S NEXT? UM, OKAY, COMMISSIONER CONLEY. UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT ARE SORT OF BUILDING ON SOME OF THE THEMES ALREADY TOUCHED ON HERE, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN SORT OF WHAT IS INCLUDED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ENGAGEMENT, UM, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHY KIND OF WHAT IS DICTATING THE TIMELINE AROUND ENGAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT FOR SOME OF THESE ITEMS. AND SO ONE THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME IS, UH, THE ELIMINATION OF PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SEEMS LIKE, I KNOW THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME NUANCE THERE, BUT SEEMS THAT FACE VALUE TO BE A RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD, UM, PROPOSITION BASED ON THE LANGUAGE AND THE ORDINANCE. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, COMPLEXITIES TO IT, BUT I'M COUNTING HERE SEVEN MONTHS FOR ENGAGEMENT, UM, TO, UH, ELIMINATE PARKING MINIMUMS IN THE CITY. COULD YOU SPEAK TO WHY STAFF THINKS WE NEED SEVEN MONTHS, UH, TO ENGAGE ON THAT? YEAH, AND I'M ACTUALLY, IF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IS STILL ON WEBEX, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR HIM TO FIELD, BUT IF NOT, I CAN RELAY THE ANSWER AS I UNDERSTAND IT. YEAH. UM, WHICH IS THAT THE PARKING WHILE THE, THE AMENDMENT TO PARKING ITSELF IS POTENTIALLY SIMPLE. THE IMPLICATIONS FOR OTHER PORTIONS OF THE CODE AND FOR HOW WE REGULATE PARKING AS A WHOLE AS A CITY IS NOT SIMPLE. UM, SO THERE IS WORK THAT WILL TOUCH MULTIPLE DIVISIONS WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT WILL BE THE LEAD, UM, FOR THIS WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS A CITY TO LOOK AT HOW REMOVING THAT MINIMUM IMPACTS ALL OF OUR OTHER, UM, TYPES OF PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION AS A CITY, UM, TO, AND ALSO TO LOOK AT, UM, SORT OF HOW THE ADA PARKING REQUIREMENTS WILL CONTINUE TO WORK IN THE CODE. THAT'S NOT A SIMPLE, UM, FIX BECAUSE THERE'S WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO LOOK AT ADA PARKING AS WELL. UM, BUT THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE, THE QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED FROM THE, UM, HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE. AND THAT'S SEVEN MONTHS OF WORK TODAY WAS, WAS LOOKING AT WHETHER THERE WAS A WAY TO EXPEDITE THAT WORK OR A WAY TO BREAK IT INTO PHASES. UM, SO WE'LL BE GETTING A DETAILED QUESTION TO TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS AND GETTING THAT ANSWER BACK OUT AND COULDN'T SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMISSION AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW, I MEAN, IT SEEMS INTERESTING THAT THERE'S SOME, SOME THINGS THE CITY DOES WHERE IT SEEMS TO CHARGE FORWARD, AND THEN THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE DO WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO TAKE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD AND UNDERSTAND EVERY IMPLICATION TO EVERY PERSON. SO ANYWAY, I'M, I'M STILL TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHY WE NEED SEVEN MONTHS FOR THAT. UM, BUT ANOTHER PIECE, UM, THAT I'M INTERESTED IN IS IF SOMEONE COULD SPEAK TO THIS IDEA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING APPROACH. IS THIS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CONVERSATION, IS THIS ACTUALLY THE, YOU KNOW, AN ATTEMPT TO TACKLE UPDATING OUR ENTIRE CODE? UM, AND IF, SO, I SEE IT SORT OF KICKING OFF HERE AT THE SORT OF, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER OF 2024, UM, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A YEAR WHERE I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY I IMAGINE THAT, UM, HALF OF OUR DIAS AT LEAST WILL BE PREOCCUPIED WITH MANY OTHER THINGS AT THAT TIME. UM, AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT KIND OF A, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE ORDINANCE TO INITIATE IT RIGHT AT THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO WHAT ARE OUR HOPES WITH REGARDS TO WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH STARTING IN THE MIDDLE OF 2024? SURE. SO LET ME EXPECTATION SET FIRST, YEAH. TO KIND OF NARROW THE FOCUS. IT, IT SAYS COMPREHENSIVE, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE THAT COMPREHENSIVE. SO THAT LINE ITEM IS REALLY GETTING TO THE NOTION OF CREATING NEW ZONES IN OUR TOOLBOX THAT WILL DO THE THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY WANT THEM TO DO AS A WALKABLE, SUSTAINABLE, AFFORDABLE TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE CITY. SO THAT'S TAKING, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THE TOWN ZONING PROPOSAL, UM, QUESTIONS OF CREATING NEW, MISSING MIDDLE ZONES AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND TACKLING THAT, UM, AS A COMPREHENSIVE BODY OF WORK WHERE WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY, UM, HAVING CONSULTANT AUGMENTATION TO HELP US WITH IT AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO HELP DEVELOP. AND BASED ON ALL OF THE GOOD WORK THAT WENT INTO THE LDC REWRITE, UM, PROJECT, THE FIRST TIME TO LOOK AT WHETHER WE COULD DEVELOP ADDITIONAL ZONES TO PUT INTO THE TOOLBOX. SO THAT'S LIKE A, THAT IS NOT MAPPING, THAT IS NOT REWRITING THE ENTIRE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND PROCEDURES THAT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON CREATING NEW ZONES AND NEW ZONING STANDARDS MM-HMM. [02:00:01] , UM, THAT WILL WORK AND IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T CANNIBALIZING THE DENSITY BONUSES AND AFFORDABILITY AS WELL. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT COMPREHENSIVE LOOK IS A, A SUITE OF ZONES NOT, SO IT'S A SET OF CODE CODE CHANGES, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY OKAY. CUZ I, I GUESS THE WAY IT'S WORDED HERE IS POTENTIALLY MISLEADING. KIND OF GOT MY HOPES UP, BUT AT THE SAME TIME ALSO, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIMING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS. AND I WONDER IF OTHERS IN THE CITY LOOKING AT THIS CHART MIGHT MISREAD IT THE WAY THAT I HAVE. AND I THINK THERE'S SOME AMBIGUITY THERE AND THAT'S GOOD FEEDBACK. I THINK IT'S CLARIFIED IN OTHER PARTS OF BACKGROUND MATERIAL, BUT FOR FOLKS THAT ARE JUST READING THE CHART, UM, WE MAY WANNA LOOK AT CHANGING. OKAY. THE WORDS THAT WE'VE USED ON THAT PAGE TO BE NEW ZONES OR SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EVOCATIVE FOR THE FUTURE VERSION. I HAVE SEVERAL MORE QUESTIONS, UNFORTUNATELY MY TIME IS UP. YEAH. WELL LET'S, I THINK I SAW COMMISSIONER MAXWELL, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD JUST TALKING TO THE DIOCESE. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, WE'LL GO AFTER THAT AND THEN COMMISSIONER AZAR AND THEN WE SELL SOME OTHER SPOTS. UM, FIRST I DO WANNA ECHO . YEAH. WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A, UM, IN PROCESS AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK STAFF HAS PUT INTO TRYING TO ORGANIZE US AND GET US ALL ON THE SAME PATH BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A MULTI-PHASE PROCESS AS SHOWN BY THE VERY COMPREHENSIVE CHART YOU ALL PUT TOGETHER. UM, I THINK I HAVE TWO THINGS I WANTED TO FLAG. ONE, I WANTED TO GET, UM, SOME THOUGHTS ON E T O D BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE AND I WILL SPECIFICALLY EXPRESS A CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP A COUNCIL LAST WEEK, WHICH WAS THE ETO D DOES NEED TO BE ON A DIFFERENT TIMELINE, QUITE FRANKLY BECAUSE WE NEED THAT FOR FEDERAL GRANT MONEY FOR PROJECT CONNECT. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GONNA SEE A REVISED TIMELINE FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A REAL CONCERN THAT THAT NOT HAVING THOSE, THAT INFORMATION READY IN TIME WILL BE DETRIMENTAL. SO THAT'S MY FIRST ISSUE THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP. AND THEN SECOND OF ALL, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO HOW THE CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIES THAT HAVE BEEN SORT OF NOTED BY HOUSING AND PLANNING COUNSELING COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO GENERALLY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DIAS IN SORT OF THEIR PRIORITIZATION VERSUS WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE ON THE GANT CHART AND HOW THOSE ARE GONNA BE SORT OF BROUGHT TOGETHER. UM, SURE. SO I THINK FIRST ON THE, THE EAD, UM, WORK, THAT TIMELINE IS SPECIFICALLY BEING DEVELOPED WITH THE FEDERAL GRANT, UM, MAKING IN MIND. SO THE, THE DELIVERY, UM, IS INTENDED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK TO DELIVER IN TIME FOR THE PENCILS DOWN ON THE GRANT APPLICATION TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE WORKING, UM, HAVE CREATED THAT AND APPLIED THAT EAD OVERLAY. UM, THERE, I DON'T WANNA GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS CAUSE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WORMHOLE TO GO DOWN, BUT THERE'S UM, THERE ARE DETAILS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FEDERAL GRANT LOOKS AT FOR QUALITATIVE CRITERIA AND QUANTITATIVE CRITERIA. AND OUR, THE TEAM THAT IS WORKING ON THE EAD WORK IS VERY MUCH IN THE THICK OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH CAPITAL METRO AND AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP AND THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE ABOUT TIMING AND MAKING SURE THAT THE TIMING THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT WORK, UM, MOVES FORWARD AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE. WE ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO GET THE WORK IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE UNITS START TO BE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED WITH IT. UM, WHICH WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO DELIVER IT, UM, PROBABLY, HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE GANTT CHART. UM, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, UH, SORRY, RE REPHRASE THE SECOND QUESTION CUZ I LOST MY OWN TRAIN OF THOUGHT IN THERE. NO, THAT'S FINE. . UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES IN SORT OF COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE, THE, WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM MEMBERS OF THE DIAS REGARDING THEIR PRIORITIES VERSUS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE GANTT CHART AND WHEN WE'LL SEE SOME UPDATES PRINT POTENTIALLY. ABSOLUTELY. SO THE, THE COUNCIL, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE PRIORITIZATION DISCUSSION THAT LED TO A MATRIX THAT THEY SHARED OUT, UM, IN PREPARATION FOR LAST WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING, UM, IDENTIFIED SORT OF SOME HIGH PRIORITY, UM, AREAS OF FOCUS, UM, THAT ARE DEFINITELY IN AND SOME OF THE WAYS THAT THEY WERE CONCEPTUALIZING, IT ACTUALLY WAS CONCEPTUALIZING IN TERMS OF COMBINING THINGS. SO YOU'LL SEE IT SHOW UP IN THE GANTT CHART AND HOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HAS COME BACK ABOUT, UM, COMBINING WORK AND DOING AND A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO DENSITY BONUSES AND A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO CREATION OF NEW ZONES, FOR EXAMPLE. UM, AND WE DEFINITELY, UH, FACTORED THAT DISCUSSION INTO KIND OF HOW WE LAID THINGS OUT ON THE TIMELINE. SO THE HIGHER PRIORITY ITEMS WE, UM, ATTEMPTED TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD TO MAKE THEM COME SOONER. UM, BUT THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF INPUT TO THE GANTT CHART. AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, WE WERE ALSO LOOKING IN TERMS OF SORT OF STAFF RESOURCES ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE DOING THIS WORK, UM, AS WELL AS DEPENDENCIES AND ITEMS THAT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, GOOD TO, UM, HAVE SOME RESOLUTION ON ONE ITEM BEFORE MOVING FORWARD INTO THE OTHER ITEM. SO IT'S NOT A ONE-TO-ONE, UM, MATCH, BUT I THINK IT DOES, UM, DO A GOOD JOB OF INCORPORATING THE CONVERSATION ON THE DIAS AND AT LEAST COUNSEL'S MOTION THAT THEY TOOK ON, UM, THURSDAY WAS TO REALLY HAVE THE, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE KIND OF CONTINUE TO BE A FOCAL POINT FOR THE CONVERSATION, UM, WORKING WITH THIS KIND OF TIMELINE AS, AS A TOOL THAT THEY'D BE WORKING [02:05:01] FROM MOVING FORWARD. GREAT. AND SINCE I HAVE JUST A FEW MORE QUICK SECONDS, TWO OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO YOU. AS YOU KNOW, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACTUALLY PLANNING TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET WORKING GROUP. AND AS ECHOED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STAFFING MIGHT BE IF WE COULD ACTUALLY EXPEDITE SOME OF THESE. UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SPECIFIC NEEDS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS A CONSULTATION, UM, CONVERSATION TODAY, BUT JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, DO WE ALL, AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN EVEN ANSWER THIS QUESTION FULLY, BUT WOULD ADDITIONAL STAFF RESOURCES REALLY HELP TO EXPEDITE SOME OF THESE THINGS AND MAYBE SOME OF THOSE CROSS DEPENDENCIES AS WELL? AND I GUESS IF YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR THEM. UM, FILLING OUR EXISTING VACANCIES WOULD BE A GREAT START, WHICH WE'RE WORKING AMBITIOUSLY, UM, TOWARDS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF EITHER ANDREA OR LAUREN WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT STAFFING RESOURCES, UM, AND WHETHER ADDITIONAL, MOST OF THE QUESTIONS I GOT TODAY WERE CONSULTANT AUGMENTATION AND NOT STAFF RELATED. SO I DEFER TO ANDREA VA'S ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TO ANSWER THE STAFFING QUESTION. GOOD EVENING. SO WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET PREPARATION, BUT WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING THESE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AND I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THAT PLANNING COMMISSION WILL ALSO BE DELVING INTO BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. AND SO IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO, YOU KNOW, EVALUATE HOW WE'RE BEST ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS, SETH. NEXT, MR. ANDERSON. GREAT, THANKS, TIER. COULD WE PULL UP THE GANTT CHART FORM EVERYONE REAL QUICK? THANKS. SO COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING LINE? SURE. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING LINE, UM, WHICH AS I HAD MENTIONED, GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS PAGE. YEP. ALMOST. THANKS. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE AS SHOWN, UM, DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE PAGE, UM, IT HAS NOT YET BEEN ASSIGNED A CASE NUMBER. UM, BUT IT WOULD BE THE SORT OF THE CREATION OF A NEW TOOLBOX OF ZONES, UM, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE INITIATED. THAT WORK HAS AS SORT OF A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, HAS NOT YET BEEN FORMALLY INITIATED. UM, AND THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD REALLY BE LOOKING TO HAVE, UM, INITIATION, UM, KIND OF IN EARLY TO MID 2024 AND THEN, UH, DOING THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN SORT OF ENGAGEMENT PROCESS IN EARLY 2025, UM, WITH A POTENTIAL ADOPTION OF A NEW TOOLBOX OF ZONES, UM, OVER THE SPRING OF 2025. SO I GUESS I'M JUST REALLY LOST HERE BECAUSE, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE CITY BRINGING ON SO MANY GREAT, YOU KNOW, THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS. OVER LONGER THAN THAT I'M SURE, BUT FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS I'VE BEEN MEETING A LOT OF THESE FOLKS AND WHEN I CALLED A FEW FRIENDS THAT I'VE MADE OVER THE YEARS TO ASK THEM ABOUT THIS, THEY COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD POSSIBLY TAKE SO LONG. ESPECIALLY WE CAN JUST OUTSOURCE THESE THINGS. SO WHY, WHY THE DELAY? WHY, I MEAN, WE KNOW, WE, I, I THINK I JUST HEARD YOU SAY A MINUTE AGO, THE, THE NEW ZONES, IN ORDER TO HAVE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX TO ALLOW FOR WALKABLE, SUSTAINABLE, AND AFFORDABLE COMMUNITY, UM, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. AND WE DON'T HAVE THOSE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX TODAY. WE'RE DESPERATE FOR 'EM. EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT THAT GETS DEVELOPED TODAY IS UNDERUTILIZING THE LAND FOR THE MOST PART, OR HAVING TO GO THROUGH A REALLY ROBUST NONSENSICAL, YOU KNOW, PROCESS TO GET THERE. OR WE'RE ZONING LAND INDUSTRIAL JUST TO BUILD HOUSING. I MEAN, IT'S SO BAD AND IT'S SO BACKWARDS AND I'M JUST LOST AND COMPLETELY DUMBFOUNDED ON WHY WE CAN'T TAKE THIS ONE A LOT MORE SERIOUSLY AND GET IT MOVING A LOT FASTER. SO ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT WHEN IT STARTS OR THE DURATION OR BOTH? I'M SAYING HOW DO WE GET THIS DONE THIS YEAR? OKAY, SO THE, THE, WHEN IT STARTS PIECE, UM, I THINK IT IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE WORK ON SORT OF CREATION OF COMPREHENSIVE ZONES INFORMED BY LOOKING, UM, AT OUR DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T CREATING ZONES THAT END UP ACTUALLY UNDOING, UM, WORK THAT IS BEING ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. SO THAT'S A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE FOR WHY THE SORT OF STAGGERED START OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE, THE DENSITY BONUS CONVERSATION WELL UNDERWAY, UM, BY THE POINT, BY THE POINT AT WHICH WE INITIATE THAT. UM, ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IS REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE, UM, THE STAFFING WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO FOCUS ON THAT WORK. UM, AND A LOT OF THE OTHER WORK, UM, LIKE THE, THE CITYWIDE PARKING STANDARDS IS ONE THAT IF WE MAKE THAT CHANGE IN ADVANCE OF CREATING THE NEW ZONES, IT HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR THE NEW ZONES. SO THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS FURTHER UP THE LIST, UM, THAT ARE ITEMS THAT WOULD INFORM THE WORK TO CREATE THE NEW ZONES. SO THAT'S PART OF IT IS, UM, KIND OF CREATE, SO LOOKING THE [02:10:01] BUDGET ONE PERSON THAN THE NEXT. SO THE BUDGET'S COMING UP, WHICH IS AWESOME. UM, WHAT DO YOU ALL NEED IN THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO KNOCK OUT THIS WORK MUCH FASTER? AND, AND FOR, I MEAN, WE'VE WORKED ON COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. MANY OF US HAVE WORKED ON MULTIPLE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT JUST DIE, AND A GROUP THAT'S AGAINST HOUSING CAN FIGURE OUT A LAWSUIT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, MESS OVER AN ENTIRE FIVE YEAR PROCESS OR AN EIGHT YEAR PROCESS AND STOP HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOMES FROM BEING LEGALIZED. SO I'M JUST REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT LONG, GRANDIOSE IDEAS THAT ONE NIMBY GROUP CAN THEN KILL IT FOR WHATEVER REASON. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TOWN ZONING IS AN EXAMPLE. LIKE WHY, WHY CAN'T WE JUST GET SOME OF THESE THINGS MOVING INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO THINK, WOW, WHAT IF IN THE IDEAL WORLD WE CAN DO X, Y, AND Z WHEN THAT'S NEVER WORKED FOR US, OR WE HAVEN'T YET TO FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR THAT TO WORK FOR US? WELL, AND I THINK, I MEAN, WE ARE OBVIOUSLY AMENDING A CODE THAT AS Y'ALL WORK KNOW FROM WORKING WITH IT, IT'S GARBAGE IS IT'S GARBAGE, BUT IT'S ALSO COMPLICATED, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AMENDING. UM, AND TO DO THE WORK OF AMENDING THAT CODE IN A SEQUENTIAL WAY THAT WILL ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICIES THAT WE'RE ENACTING THROUGH THE REGULATIONS THAT WE WRITE ARE BENEFITING THE RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN. UM, THIS IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ORDER IN WHICH WE WOULD DO IT. UM, I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY CONVERSATIONS THAT CAN BE HAD ABOUT COMPRESSING TIMELINES AND HOW TO, TO DELIVER MORE QUICKLY. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY A CONVERSATION, UM, THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE HAD THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WITH COUNSEL. OKAY. I HOPE THAT YOU'LL HAVE ALL OUR FULL SUPPORT FOR DOING JUST THAT. THANK YOU. I THINK WE HAVE COMMISSIONER ZA, IT'S NEXT. CAN, CAN WE ALSO PLEASE SEE THE OTHER, UH, THE ONLINE PARTICIPANTS SO WE DON'T MISS SOMEBODY? THANK YOU. UM, I'LL, I'LL GET STARTED. I GUESS, AND I'LL START OFF HONESTLY BY THANKING STAFF. I THINK THIS IS GREAT WORK AND I THANK COUNCIL FOR GIVING THIS DIRECTION. AND I DO WANNA APPRECIATE HONESTY, THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT HAS GONE INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE REPORTABLE BONUS CONVERSATION. LONG OVERDUE. I'M GLAD WE'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH THAT. AND SIMILAR TO THE THOUGHTFULNESS ON THE TIMING OF E D O D, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING AS WELL. I, I GUESS I, I HAVE, UM, QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS, SO I'LL TRY TO GO THIS THROUGH THIS AS CAREFULLY AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND COUNCIL SORT OF FIGURING OUT THE ROLE OF THE GOODS AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, BE MORE EFFECTIVE. AND I THINK WE'VE COURSE SEE GREAT VALUE IN THAT COMMITTEE AND DOING THAT WORK. BUT, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LOOK TO Y'ALL IS IF WE CAN HAVE SOME ALIGNMENT OF SCHEDULES, MAYBE FOR THE REMAINING YEAR IN, IN THE COMING TIME, WE JUST SCHEDULE THE MEETINGS IN A WAY, MAYBE THERE ARE TWO OR THREE DAYS BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT, CAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES WHAT REALLY IS THE BACKUP ISN'T READY FOR STAFF TO HAVE IT TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE WHEN A MEETING MIGHT BE HELD. SO HOW DO WE MAKE IT SO THAT THE TIMING OF OUR COMMITTEES IS NOT HOLDING UP THE PROCESS? SO HELP US FIGURE THAT OUT. AND AS A COURTS AND ORDINANCES MEMBER, I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF LIAISON. SO THAT'S A THING TO THINK ABOUT. UM, I, I WAS ALSO GONNA SAY THAT I THINK, UM, IT MIGHT BE, I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE SOUTH CENTER WATERFRONT REGULATING PLAN, UM, COMING, UH, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMELINE FOR THAT. IT'S RUNNING INTO THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE REALLY WILL HAVE A MONTH BETWEEN PLANNING COMMISSION, TAKING ACTION AND THEN COUNCIL TAKING ACTION. SO WE'LL HAVE TO ALIGN IT IN A WAY THAT WE DO GET IT TO COUNCIL BEFORE THEIR LAST DECEMBER MEETING. IT'S JUST GONNA BE TOUGH. I I WOULD PREFER NOT TO SEND IT IN NEXT YEAR, CUZ I APPRECIATE IT BEING, UM, ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR. UM, THE DENSITY BONUS INITIATION, I, I SAW THAT IT'S SORT OF IN THIS TIME PERIOD THAT WE HAVE THOSE TWO YELLOW BOXES SAYING WE WANNA INITIATE IT. I GUESS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT STAFF WILL BRING TO, BECAUSE WE CAN INITIATE OUR COUNCIL INITIATE, SO HOW DO WE SUPPORT YOU IN THAT? SURE. AND I'M ACTUALLY GONNA GIVE ONE THOUGHT AND THEN I THINK RACHEL, IF SHE'S STILL ON, BRING RACHEL TEPPER BACK TO ANSWER A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. UM, THANK YOU FOR POPPING UP RACHEL. UM, THE ONE CAVEAT THAT I WANTED TO PROVIDE ON THAT TIMELINE, THE DENSITY BONUS WORK, THERE IS A, A PORTION OF THE ANALYSIS THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY NEED INITIATION. SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO, UM, SORT OF, UH, GET THE CONSULTANT AUGMENTATION NEEDED TO DO THE WORK, TO DO THE ANALYSIS, AND THEN THE INITIATION OF ACTUAL AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE COULD POTENTIALLY COME LATER. SO DON'T BE, DON'T BE ALARMED BY THAT YELLOW BOX THAT SHOWS UP AT THE BEGINNING. UM, RACHEL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT RESPONSE. YES, THIS IS JUST PRELIMINARY, BUT, UM, AT THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HAR HARPER MADISON, UM, INDICATED ASKING STAFF TO SORT OF BEGIN THAT WORK. IF YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE WHAT'S IN THE YELLOW, KIND OF IN THAT INITIATION OR STUDY PHASE, UM, STARTING TO DO KIND OF A, A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OF OUR PROGRAMS, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF CAN KIND OF BEGIN TO DO NOW, UM, BEFORE WE START INITIATING THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE, YOU KNOW, AMENDMENT. SO I THINK THAT CONVERSATION, LIKE YOU SAID, IS SOMETHING [02:15:01] THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO FOR A LONG TIME AND, AND BOTH BODIES SEEM EAGER TO INITIATE THE WORK. UM, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT, BUT I DID WANNA JUST, UM, MENTION, UH, THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE'S ALSO THINKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING THE WORK AND, AND WE'RE EAGER TO DO SO. I, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I GUESS MY OFFER WOULD JUST BE, IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HELP IN THAT PROCESS, LET US KNOW. WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT. UM, I, I GUESS I HAVE ONE REQUEST AND ONE, UH, QUESTION AS WELL. THE REQUEST IS, I THINK FOR SOME OF THOSE COMPLEX CODE AMENDMENTS, I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS BEHIND THOSE. I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE CAN EVEN SHARE WORKING DRAFTS WITH SOME OF OUR WORKING GROUPS, CUZ WE CAN FORM A WORKING GROUP IN ADVANCE. SOME OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS COMPLEX ITEM, IT GETS UPLOADED FRIDAY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE ACTION TUESDAY. AND SO LO AND BEHOLD WE POSTPONE IT FOR TWO MONTHS AND THEN WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPEDING THAT PROCESS. SO IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAYBE DO SOME WORKING DRAFTS, INTERNAL DRAFTS SO WE CAN WORKSHOP THEM OR WORKING GROUP CAN WORKSHOP THEM. SO JUST, JUST YEAH, WENT WELL, TAKEN A THOUGHT. AND, AND DO WE HAVE, WOULD THE CODE CABINET BE MADE AVAILABLE IF PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS TO INITIATE A COMPLEX AMENDMENT? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSULTING WITH STAFF IF WE'RE BRINGING FORTH SOMETHING. UM, CERTAINLY THE CODE CABINET CAN ATTEND. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL ALWAYS BE ME REPRESENTING THE CODE CABINET CUZ THEY'RE MULTIPLE MEMBERS AND WE'RE GONNA BE SORT OF, UM, FORMALIZING KIND OF THE PROCESS FOR WHO'S GONNA BE THE CHAIR OF THAT BODY AND WHICH IS, I DON'T THANK ME. UM, BUT THE CODE CABINET CAN C CERTAINLY, UM, ATTEND A MEETING TO PROVIDE SOME DIALOGUE AND CONVERSATION FOR SURE. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I'LL TAKE MY LAST FEW SECONDS TO MAKE SIR, FOR PERSONAL PLEA TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT IN THE COMING MONTHS WE CAN BE MORE CONSCIENTIOUS OF WHAT CODE AMENDMENTS WE'RE INITIATING. I THINK THIS GIVES US A PATH FORWARD. THERE'S WAYS FOR US TO WORK WITHIN THESE CONSTRAINTS AND COMBINE THINGS. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUS AND CONSCIENTIOUS WHEN WE'RE INITIATING CODE AMENDMENTS TO, TO KEEP THEM MINOR. SO WE'RE ASSISTING THIS WORK AND NOT IMPEDING IT. THANK YOU'ALL. OKAY. UH, LET'S SEE. COMMISSIONER COX HAS HIS HAND UP. YEAH, THESE, THESE CHARTS ARE AMAZING. UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT NOW THEY EXIST AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE HOLDING INTO ALL THESE, ALL THESE LITTLE TICK MARKS, UH, IN 2023 AND BEYOND. UM, A A COUPLE OF MINOR QUESTIONS I THINK, AND, AND COMMISSIONER ZA STOLE MY THUNDER. I WAS GONNA HAVE THIS GRAND THING ABOUT WORKING GROUPS. UM, I, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S AN ENORMOUS VALUE TO US SETTING UP A WORKING GROUP CUZ I'M, I'M SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE TWO REGULATING PLANS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HIT US IN SEPTEMBER AND THEN NOVEMBER. AND SO PARTICULARLY FOR THE NORTH BURNETT GATEWAY REGULATING PLAN, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT SETTING UP A WORKING GROUP WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. AND EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A WORKING DRAFT THAT COMMISSIONERS ARE HAD MENTIONED, JUST GETTING SOME SORT OF LIKE PRELIM DEBRIEF FROM STAFF IN A WORKING GROUP, I JUST FEEL LIKE WOULD BE ENORMOUSLY HELPFUL BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON, ON SETTING UP A WORKING GROUP, BUT THEN WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST DUMPED WITH AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ALL AT ONCE. AND, AND IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE WHILE FOR US TO GET GOING AND GET CAUGHT UP AND, AND CLIMB THE LEARNING CURVE. SO MY HOPE IS THAT, UH, STAFF, MY HOPE IS THAT Y'ALL COULD POSSIBLY TRY TO MAINTAIN THIS SCHEDULE, NOT SO THAT WE'RE CHECKING YOU EVERY MONTH, BUT, BUT SO THAT WE CAN GET ON OUR AGENDA, UH, WORKING GROUPS, YOU KNOW, TWO MONTHS AHEAD OF WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPECTING THIS STUFF TO DROP SO THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO PREPARE, DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WHATEVER, SO THAT WE'RE READY TO GO ONCE, ONCE THE DRAFTS ARE ACTUALLY READY. YEAH, AND I'LL JUST RESPOND TO THAT. THE GOAL OF STAFF IS TO KEEP THE GANTT CHART UP TO DATE. IT WON'T BE A LIVE UPDATE. IT'LL PROBABLY BE A MONTHLY UPDATE, BUT THE DATABASE THAT WE'RE USING TO DRIVE IT AS BEING UPDATED, UM, DAILY AS NEW INFORMATION COMES IN. UM, SO FEEL FREE TO TICK, UM, LITTLE TICK MARKS ON IT, IF YOU WILL, AND KEEP, YOU KNOW, ARCHIVE THE PREVIOUS VERSIONS, BUT JUST KNOW THAT WILL CHANGE OVER TIME AS CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE. SO I WILL, THIS IS NOT SET IN STONE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. AND JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK, HOPEFULLY EASY QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING USE ITEM AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DRAFT AMENDMENTS? IT WAS JUST INITIATED, CORRECT. SO IT WAS AN ITEM THAT WA A CODE AMENDMENT THAT WAS INITIATED, UM, AT THURSDAY'S, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OH, THAT'S WHY I'M NOT AWARE. SO THE FIRE SAFETY STANDARDS FOR ANIMAL FACILITIES AND THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING, THE REASON THAT DOESN'T HAVE A TIMELINE IS JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO NEW? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN [02:20:01] GOING BACK TO THE REGULATING PLANS, UM, UM, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GETTING ZONING CASES BEFORE THE REGULATING PLAN EXISTS. AND, AND IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE PRIORITIZED THE REGULATING PLAN BEFORE WE STARTED GETTING A FLOOD OF ZONING CASES. WHEN IT COMES TO SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, NORTH BURNETT, THAT SORT OF THING. IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN DELAYED SO MUCH? THE ONE ANSWER THAT I CAN OFFER AND OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE MORE INVOLVED IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL PROCESS THAN I AM MAYBE WALKING UP TO OFFER ANSWERS ABOUT SOUTH CENTRAL SPECIFICALLY. BUT IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, AS WE DO PLANNING WORK, WE NEVER HAVE THE LUXURY OF THE PLANE STOPPING FLYING SO THAT WE CAN WORK ON IT. I MEAN, THE CITY MOVES ON, DEVELOPMENT MOVES ON, PROPERTY OWNERS ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND THEY MOVE FORWARD WHEN THEY'RE READY. UM, THE QUESTION ABOUT SORT OF THE SPECIFIC TIMING OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN, THOUGH, I'M GONNA HAVE, UM, ERICA LAKE DEVELOPMENT OFFICER COME UP AND ANSWER THAT ONE. GOOD EVENING. UM, AS MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT REGULATING PLAN FOR A WHILE. WE HIRED, UM, CONSULTANTS TO HELP WITH CALIBRATION OF THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM FOR THAT. UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE ANALYSIS, UH, FOR THAT PROGRAM. WE ARE HOPEFULLY CLOSE, UH, TO, TO A DRAFT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO START SHARING WITH CONSTITUENTS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. UM, AND WE WILL BE BRIEFING THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD NEXT MONTH, SORRY, NEXT WEEK, ABOUT OUR PROGRESS. OKAY. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST, UH, IT, YOU KNOW, BEING ON THE WORKING GROUP WITH THE, THE BIG STATESMAN PUT AND THAT SORT OF THING, IT JUST, WE JUST SEEMED TO ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT WE WISH WE HAD A REGULATING PLAN TO HELP GUIDE US. BUT ANYWAYS. UM, AND, AND MY LAST QUESTION, WHICH YOU ACTUALLY KIND OF, UH, REFERRED TO A LITTLE BIT IS, UM, IS THERE A WAY TO INDICATE WHEN, SO YOU'VE GOT THE TICK MARKS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN CITY COUNCIL. IS THERE A WAY TO INDICATE, UM, LIKE DIFFERENT, UH, COMMITTEES AND, AND JOINT COMMITTEES AND THAT SORT OF STUFF? I'M ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. JOINT COMMITTEE COMMISSIONERS ARE REFERENCE THE CODES AND ORDINANCES COMMITTEE. SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THESE MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO COME BEFORE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE, IS THAT CORRECT? SO WE DO, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF THEM, SOME OF THEM MAY BE COMP PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE. EVERY CODE AMENDMENT WILL GO TO CODES AND ORDINANCES. MANY OF THEM WILL ALSO GO TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, DESIGN COMMISSION, HISTOR LANDMARK COMMISSION. THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ON THE LIST THAT WOULD BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR SMALLER AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE FOR THAT MATTER. UM, THE TEAM THAT I MANAGE WITHIN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS NOW TRACKING ALL OF THOSE TIMELINES. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY INFORMATION THAT AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE, WE COULD, WE COULD MAKE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE. UM, WE DIDN'T WANNA OVERLY COMPLICATE IT, THIS GRAPH AND SOME OF THOSE MILESTONES, UM, ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. SO IT'S KIND OF HARD, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA PUT TOO MUCH ON PAPER THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY SHARE THE, THE INFORMATION ABOUT SCHEDULE AS IT IS KNOWN, UM, TO THIS GROUP. BUT TO THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE. BLAKE, LIKE CHAIR SHAW, I GET A SICK SATISFACTION ABOUT GRAPHS AND CHARTS THAT CONVEY WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION. SO FEEL FREE TO THROW WHATEVER YOU WANT ON THERE. I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER COX, YOU COULDN'T HEAR THE BUZZER, BUT IT DID GO OFF. UM, SO WHO ELSE, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UM, SO LET'S, UH, I GUESS WE'RE DONE WITH Q AND A. UM, I HEARD KIND OF SOME ASK FROM STAFF. I MEAN THE ACTION HERE AGAIN, MR. RIVERA, ARE WE, UM, THIS WOULD GO IF WE HAD ACTION THIS EVENING, I'M JUST, WOULD THIS JUST GO TO, WOULD THESE BE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS PLAN AND, AND, AND MAYBE ANY CHANGES WE WOULD WOULD WANNA SEE TO IT OR RECOMMEND CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAY VERSO UNDER CODE? UM, YOU CAN, UH, REFER A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL OR YOU CAN ALSO, UH, REFER A RECOMMENDATION TO A COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE. UM, YOU CAN ALSO, UM, UH, CREATE SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS IF THAT IS THE WELL OF COMMISSION. OKAY. SO THAT IS KIND OF THE, UH, AREA THAT WE CAN TAKE ACTION THIS EVENING. UM, ONE THING, UH, IN STAFF, I WOULD, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I SEE MORE MEETINGS THAN WHAT WE PROBABLY HAVE SCHEDULED. AND I DON'T, I'M TRYING TO BALANCE, UM, [02:25:01] SOME OF THESE MAY NEED A WORKING GROUP OR, UH, BENEFIT FROM A WORKING GROUP. SO, WHICH REAL QUICK, JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD STRAIGHT. THE, UH, REGULATING PLANS WOULD GO TO, WHICH, UH, WOULD THOSE GO TO CODES AND ORDINANCES, SMALL AREA PLANNING, WHERE DID THOSE GO? THE REGULATING PLANS WOULD DEFINITELY GO TO CODES AND ORDINANCES AND THEN TO PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, SOME OF THEM WILL ALSO GO TO SMALLER A PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE, BUT THE REGULATING, I'M NOT SURE IF THE REGULATING PLAN WORK FOR SOUTH CENTRAL IS, AND I DON'T THINK NORTH BERNETT GATEWAY IS BECAUSE THERE'S PRETTY FOCUSED AMENDMENTS THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED TO BE DONE WITH THAT ONE. OKAY. WELL, I JUST, I LOOK AT THESE LITTLE, UH, THESE MILESTONE MARKERS AND I THINK OF THE THOSE, UH, JOINT COMMITTEES. AND I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THIS AND I THINK, BUT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GET, WE NEED TO ORGANIZE QUICKLY AND, AND NEED TO KNOW WHAT DATES YOU WOULD PROPOSE. UH, SO WE CAN START LOOKING AT CALENDARS SO THAT WE'RE NOT HOLDING YOU UP. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I SEE WE DON'T HAVE MEETINGS SCHEDULED TO DO WHAT YOU'VE ASKED HERE. I WAS GONNA SAY FOR THE ONES THAT DO ALREADY HAVE MILESTONES ON THEM, WE HAVE AT LEAST THE, THE KIND OF CODE AMENDMENT SUPPORT TEAM HAS MET WITH THE PROJECT, THE CODE AMENDMENT LEAD, UM, TO IDENTIFY A SCHEDULE MOVING FORWARD THAT AT LEAST HAS THEM IDENTIFIED FOR AN ACTUAL MEETING OF PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE POTENTIAL SORT OF DESIRE ON PLANNING COMMISSION'S PART TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE THAN JUST THE HEARING, UM, FOR THE DISCUSSION. AND SO WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE THAT CONVERSATION BACK. DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? I'M JUST, WHAT I'M SEEING IS REAL QUICKLY IS, UM, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE KIND OF EACH MEETING AS IT'S CURRENTLY SCHEDULED AND WHAT YOU THINK WILL BE ON THAT AGENDA BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE FOR THE VARIOUS, UH, JOINT COMMITTEES AND PLANNING COMMISSION, JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE PR UH, LOOKING OUT FORWARD TO MEET THIS TIMELINE, WHAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO COVER IN EACH OF THOSE NORMALLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS. AND IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TOO MUCH OR WE JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT WORK, WE MIGHT NEED TO GET SOME SPECIAL MEETINGS ARRANGED. UH, COMMISSIONER DESAR, THANK YOU CHAIR. IF, IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE AMENABLE TO THIS, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT I THINK OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UM, OF OUR FOUR OFFICERS GO AND FIGURE OUT A LITTLE BIT FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE OF HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. I'LL BE HONEST, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T THINK ACTUALLY WE CAN ACTUALLY BE THIS REGIMENTED, BUT LIKE ONE THING I CAN THINK OF IS IF FROM STAFF WE COULD HEAR, OKAY, WELL THE SECOND MEETING IN THE MONTH IS THE ONE WHERE WE WOULD BRING ALL THE CODE ITEMS, THEN PERHAPS WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN START THINKING OF OUR CASES, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE THINKING OF POSTPONEMENTS IN THAT WAY. AND MAYBE THEN WE MAKE SURE THAT CODES AND ORDINANCES SCHEDULED THE WEEK BEFORE THE BIG PLANNING COMMISSION CODE MEETING, LONGER CONVERSATIONS. ALL THAT SAID, MAYBE OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CAN DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THIS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING MS. GREATHOUSE AND MS. LEE AS WELL. IF, TO THE JURY'S POINT, IF WE NEED TO DO SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS, THEN WE HAVE THOSE SORT OF . YEAH, AND I WILL, WE'LL SAY FOR SEVERAL OF THE ONES THAT HAVE TICK MARKS, WE HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE LAID OUT A TIMEFRAME OF WHEN THE COUNCIL SET DATE HAPPENS, WHEN CODES AND ORDINANCES WOULD HAPPEN, WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION LIGHT TO THE ACTUAL MEETING DATE. MM-HMM. . UM, SO WE CAN FOLLOW UP, UM, TO PROVIDE TIMELINES FOR THE ONES WITH TICK MARKS, KIND OF, UM, SIMILAR TO THE, THE QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER COX ASKED ABOUT GETTING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION OR FOR THE ONES THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH A PARTICULAR SCHEDULE. AND THEN THAT WILL, UM, AID YOU ALL IN YOUR DELIBERATIONS OF WHETHER YOU NEED ADDITIONAL MEETINGS OR HOPEFULLY THAT'S, HOPEFULLY THAT SCHEDULE WORKS. CUZ IN SOME CASES WE'RE LOOKING AT SCHEDULING PUBLIC NOTICE ALSO. YEAH. AND, AND THE CHALLENGE BEING, AGAIN, I THINK ALSO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY FOR WORKING GROUPS, OTHERS TO BE ENGAGED IN ADVANCE SO WE'RE NOT POSTPONING ACTION AT OUR MEETINGS. AND WITH THE CAVEAT, AND I KNOW MR. RAMIREZ ALSO GONNA PROBABLY HAVE THOUGHT ON THIS, BUT WE'RE ALSO NOT POSTPONING CASES OR ZONING CASES IN A WAY WE'RE PUNCHING IT ALL UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH DOES HAPPEN HONESTLY. UH, COMMISSIONERS ALSO THINK ABOUT, UH, FOR COMMISSIONER COX, UH, ITEMS THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR WORKING GROUPS. I'M JUST CONCERNED OF THAT KIND OF FATIGUE LEVEL. YOU KNOW, WE JUST GET TOO MANY WORKING GROUPS AND WE, UH, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY OF US AND SO, UH, WE'RE ALREADY ON THE JOINT COMMITTEE, SO IT'S KIND OF HOW MUCH CAN WE, WHAT REALLY ARE THE BEST ITEMS TO FORM A WORKING GROUP ON. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT THIS EVENING, MR. RIVERA, IF HE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING. OKAY, MR. RIVERA CHAIR, COMMISSIONER MAISEL. AND JUST REAL QUICK, UH, UM, I'LL JUST, UH, TAG IN ALONG COMMISSIONER OURS, UH, STATEMENT OF THE EXECUTIVE, UH, COMMITTEE, UM, WHILE WE HAVE THE, UH, PRESENCE OF THE AIAAS, IF WE COULD JUST CHECK A WILL OF UTILIZING, [02:30:01] UM, SOME OF THOSE FIFTH TUESDAYS. UM, AND THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE STAFF, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, IF IT'S, UM, IF IT, IF IT'S, UH, AMENABLE, UH, TO GO AHEAD AND UTILIZE, UH, AND TAKE THOSE INTO ACCOUNT. UH, WHAT DAYS ARE THOSE THAT YOU, THE TWO SEE EVERY THREE MINUTES. THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO, THERE'S TWO STILL IN THE REST OF CHAIR COMMISSION LEADS ON ANDREW. SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT AUGUST 29TH AS THE NEXT TUESDAY AND THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY AFTER THAT, FIFTH TUESDAY AFTER THAT WOULD BE HALLOWEEN, OCTOBER 31ST. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO COMMISSIONERS, WE MAY WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE, UH, DATES. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAXWELL, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, WE'LL HAVE TO PROVE IF WE WANTED TO REMOVE COMPATIBILITY MORE OR DO HALLOWEEN, THAT'S ON US. , LET'S DO THAT THAT DON'T PLAY US LIKE THAT, COMMISSIONER. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT YOU TO ATTACHMENT SEA OF THE BACKUP FOR THIS ITEM, WHICH DOES INCLUDE, UH, THE SPECIFIC DATES THAT WE ANTICIPATE THE SCHEDULED ITEMS TO GO TO CODES AND ORDINANCES. SO, UH, SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT MORE OF THOSE DETAILS IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, LET'S SEE. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL AND THEN, UH, CHAIR COHEN. UH, SO TWO JUST QUICK REQUESTS. UH, ONE, I WAS THINKING AS WE LOOK AT THIS, WE ALSO CAN SEE THAT, UH, 2024 IS GONNA BE QUITE A BUSY, SO MAYBE WE CAN ALSO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR MEETING DATES FOR NEXT YEAR. JUST BEING THOUGHTFUL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO MOVE THROUGH QUITE A HEAVY LOAD OF CODE AMENDMENTS STARTING NEXT SPRING, UH, HOPEFULLY. AND THEN THE SECOND THING I WAS GONNA MENTION IS THAT I'VE PERSONALLY FOUND THIS UPDATE EXTREMELY HELPFUL, AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY PLAN TO HAVE A SIMILAR TYPE OF UPDATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE SO THAT WE'RE GETTING UPDATED TIMELINES SIMILAR TO COUNCIL AND THE COMMITTEES OF COUNCIL, SO THAT WE'RE AWARE OF WHERE THINGS ARE AND HOW THEY FAR THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS. AND OBVIOUSLY IT WOULDN'T NEED TO BE AS COMPREHENSIVE AS THIS, BUT JUST KEEPING US ABREAST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALSO HELPING US TO PLAN BETTER IN TERMS OF WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE, STARTING WORKING GROUPS, THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH, AND I SAY WE ARE PLANNING ON CONTINUING TO KEEP THIS INFORMATION UP TO DATE FOR THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIRLY SIMPLE, UM, FOR ME TO WORK WITH, UM, LIAISON RIVERA AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS DISTRIBUTED, UM, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WHEN IT GOES OUT TO THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE. THANKS. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY, CHAIR COLIN, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR MAYBE SOMETHING I SHOULD PRESENT TO THE BODY, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO, UH, I'M HEARING EXPEDITE, EXPEDITE, EXPEDITE, AND THEN THE BIG GIANT PLATELETS OF STUFF THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DUMPING ON STAFF. IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS A BODY OUTSIDE OF MAYBE THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATION WORKING GROUP TO HELP GET MORE STAFF DSC SO THEY HAVE MORE TIME TO WORK ON THIS COMPETITIVE GROUP SALARIES WORK FROM HOME? I, I THINK DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT ALSO I DO BELIEVE WHEN APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN, THAT IS SHARED WITH US. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY, I FEEL LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT JOB OPENINGS AND THOSE ARE GREAT JOB OPENINGS FOR GREAT FOLKS, YOU GET TO WORK WITH THIS AMAZING BUNCH OF PEOPLE. SO DEFINITELY WE SHOULD BE FORWARDING THOSE TO PEOPLE WHO WE THINK MIGHT BE INTERESTED. THAT'S ONE THING THAT COMES TO MIND. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? I THINK, UH, YEAH, I THINK THOSE ISSUES AROUND PAY AND HIRING, I, I'M WORKING AT UT AND WE'VE GOT ISSUES THERE AS WELL. SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF COMMON WITH AFFORDABILITY ISSUES HERE IN TOWN. UM, YOU KNOW THAT QUITE A BIT. UM, ANYTHING ELSE? SO, NOPE, THAT'S IT. THANKS. OKAY. UM, I GUESS WE'RE JUST KIND OF THIS PRE FORMING HERE. IF YOU WANNA COMMENT ON WHAT STEPH HAS DONE, UH, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE, BUT THEN WE HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE, UH, PROPOSE SOME ACTIONS HERE. UM, IS THERE ANY, LOOKING AT THIS, UM, IS THERE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS WE MIGHT WANT TO PASS ON TO EITHER COUNSEL OR THE, UH, THE WORK, UH, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE OR EVEN SPECIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, FORMING A SPECIAL WORKING GROUP ON OUR OWN? THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR OPTIONS. I'M LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM. ANYTHING PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS. NOW THERE WOULD BE ACTIONS THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT'S HERE. UM, JUST SEEING IF WE WANT TO FORWARD ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL WORKING, UM, COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL, JUST COMMISSION. COX COMMISSIONER COX CHAIR, COMMISSIONER COX. UH, IT'S BEEN SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES [02:35:01] AND, AND IF WE WANT TO SAY OUR PIECE UP TO COUNSEL, WE COULD, WE COULD MAKE A MOTION OR I CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT SAYS WE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AGREE OR RECOMMEND WITH, UH, THE STAFF, UH, PRESENTATION FOR SCHEDULE FOR CODE AMENDMENTS AND RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL PROVIDE THE BUDGET NECESSARY TO MEET OR EXCEED THE DEADLINES PRESENTED IN THESE CHARTS. SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. THE CHAIR MIGHT HAVE ASK A QUESTION OF THE MOTION MAKER. UM, AND SO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER, SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD IT MAY MAKE MORE SENSE PERHAPS TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO OUR BUDGET WORKING GROUP, WHICH IF I WERE TO UNDERSTAND, WOULD BE BRINGING FORTH A RECOMMENDATION IN THE COMING ONE OR TWO MEETINGS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU'RE AMENABLE TO THAT, COMMISSIONER COX, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING, SINCE WE WILL BE DOING THAT WORK, I GUESS IN THE COMING MONTH. I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES SENSE OR DO YOU, IF YOU THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT MULTIPLE TIMES, CUZ IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. I'M HAPPY TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL. THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS I THINK, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, AND COMMISSIONER ARE YOU, YOU, YOU WERE THERE AT THE, THE JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE WE LEARNED THAT THERE WAS ONE AND A HALF PEOPLE WORKING ON THE ENTIRE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO, UH, WE, WE ALL KNOW THAT STAFFING IS AN ISSUE. UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S WORTH BRINGING THAT UP. EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. AND A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT HAS BEEN ABOUT DEADLINES AND TRYING TO PUSH THESE THINGS FORWARD AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITHOUT ADEQUATE STAFF. SO IF WE WANNA MAKE THAT POINT TO COUNSEL NOW AND WHEN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE C I P, I THINK, UH, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE. B BEFORE, AND I'M SORRY, GIVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR MOTION MAKER BEFORE WE SORT OF SECOND THAT. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD WE ALSO WANT TO CONSIDER KIND OF WHAT, UM, UM, CHAIR COHEN WAS SAYING, ALSO ASKING A COUNSELOR OR CITY MANAGER, WHOEVER IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER OTHER POLICIES, PROCEDURES, HOW WE CAN SUPPORT OUR STAFF AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THEM, WHETHER IT'S FROM WORK, FROM HOME POLICIES AS SHE WAS MENTIONING, OR OTHER THINGS, AGAIN, OUT OF THE CONTROL OF THIS BODY BY ALL MEANS, BUT THINGS JUST AGAIN, TO CONSIDER HOW DO WE SUPPORT OUR STAFF IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE? JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER PART OF THIS MOTION AS WELL. YEAH, AND, AND MY MOTION WAS MEANT TO CREATE JUST THE, THE UMBRELLA OF ENSURING WITHIN THE BUDGET, WHICH COULD MEAN MANY THINGS, NOT JUST MONEY, UH, FULL-TIME POSITIONS, WHATEVER. IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE WORKPLACE POLICIES AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, BUT YEAH, JUST, JUST RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO ENSURE THAT THESE SCHEDULES ARE MET OR EXCEEDED. I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. SORRY. SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION OF THE MOTION MAKER BECAUSE THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATION IS SOMETHING I'M, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND CUZ IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THE MOTION BEING PROPOSED. ONE IS THAT WE RECOMMEND THIS TO STAFF AND THEN THE OTHER IS THAT WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF SUPPORT THIS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. IS THAT CORRECT? IF THERE, MY, MY MOTION WAS MEANT PRIMARILY TO SPEAK TO THE, TO THE KIND OF THE DEADLINES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE CHARTS, RIGHT? WHICH THE CHARTS ARE OBVIOUSLY THE MEAT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED. AND SO UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED HUMANS, WE NEED BODIES TO ACTUALLY MEET THOSE DEADLINES. NO, THAT, THAT WAS THE INTENT OF MY MOTION. OKAY. NO, SO THAT PART I, I FULLY UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S A PART THAT IS ALSO AN ENDORSEMENT OF THESE DEADLINES, OF THESE TIMELINES TO COUNSEL. THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY. I THINK I WOULD LIKE, I WAS HOPING TO MAKE A MOTION, GET IT SECONDED AND THEN I FULLY EXPECTED THERE TO BE AMENDMENTS RELATED TO SPECIFIC ITEMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. JUST CUZ IT'S EASY TO CONFUSE, CONFUSE ME. UH, WE MAY WANNA SPLIT SOME OF THIS AND I'D SAY NUMBER ONE, UH, OF COURSE WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. UH, IF WE SPLIT IT INTO, FIRST OF ALL, HADN'T BEEN SECONDED. YES. AND THAT'S THE PERFECT TIME TO SPLIT IT YES. OR WHATEVER. SO I THINK JUST FIRSTLY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS, UH, STAFF PROPOSAL AND MAYBE AS A BASE MOTION, DO WE SUPPORT STAFF'S, UM, PLAN HERE FOR PROCEEDING WITH THESE CODE AMENDMENTS AND IS KIND OF THE BASE, OR THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT COMMISSIONERS WOULD WANT TO AMEND TO SAY, YES, I SUPPORT THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ADDED. OR, UH, MAYBE SOMETHING GIVEN A LITTLE HIGHER PRIORITY. SO I WOULD LIKE, IF WE COULD, UH, JUST SPEAK [02:40:01] TO WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THE STAFF PLAN. UH, IF WE HAVE A MOTION AROUND, AGAIN, WE COULD JUST HAVE A BASE, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT, WE SUPPORT THIS, BUT, UH, IN AMENDMENTS WE MAY WANT TO OFFER. YES, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, I CAN'T SUPPORT WHAT COMMISSIONER COX JUST READ OUT WITH, WITH TWO WORDS BEING IN THERE AND THAT WAS MEET OR MEET OR EXCEED IF WE WERE TO EXCEED 100%. BUT I JUST LOOK AT THIS AS JUST, YOU KNOW, A NICE WALK IN THE PARK. LIKE, LET'S JUST TAKE OUR TIME AND REALLY JUST, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT. LIKE, WE JUST CANNOT TAKE TILL THE MIDDLE OF 2025 TO GET NEW ZONING IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. LIKE, WE HAVE TO HAVE NEW TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR. LIKE WHY CAN'T WE JUST GO AND HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE AROUND TO GO AND GET THIS WORK DONE? WE CAN, WE REALLY CAN. SO, YOU KNOW, IF IF THE BUDGET'S GONNA COME BACK AT 0% INCREASE, THEN THERE'S GONNA BE SOME BANDWIDTH THERE. AND NO MATTER WHAT IT COSTS, WE'RE GONNA GET THAT MONEY BACK THROUGH BETTER DEVELOPMENT AND BETTER INVESTMENTS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. THINGS THAT CAN'T HAPPEN TODAY UNDER CURRENT CODE. SO I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CRAFTING OF A, A MOTION, UH, UH, THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT WANNA PUT ON THE TABLE. SO I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON HERE. SO, UH, I WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT WE WORK AROUND SOME KIND OF RESPONSE TO THIS PLAN AND, UH, SEE IF WE CAN GET THE VOTES TO THAT RESPONSE. AND I DO WANNA SAY WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK STAFF, BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME OF US THAT ARE FEELING A LITTLE MORE URGENCY THAN WHAT WHAT WE SEE HERE. APPRECIATE ALL THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. BUT, UH, TO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON'S POINT, UM, IT, IT'S, IT, UH, LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET THROUGH THIS, UM, CHAIR. YES. I, I'M HAPPY TO DELETE MEET OR AND JUST REPLACE WITH EXCEED THE DEADLINES PRESENTED IF, IF THAT ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET THIS ITEM DONE. AND IF I, IF I CAN SPEAK, MY PREFERENCE WOULD DEFINITELY BE TO SPLIT THE MOTIONS. HONESTLY, I THINK THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE CONSIDERING. ONE IS THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND ONE IS RESOURCES TO ACHIEVE THIS PROPOSAL OR WHATEVER WE WANT FOLKS TO ACHIEVE. YEAH. SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO SPLIT THOSE TWO CONVERSATIONS. AND J I LEAVE IT TO YOU TO DECIDE WHICH MOTION TO PROCEED WITH FIRST. YEAH. SO, UM, LET'S COMMISSIONER COXEY MIND, I THINK IF WE SPLIT IT AND LET'S, LET'S, UH, ATTACK THE, UH, THE IDEA OF WHAT, HOW WE, OUR RESPONSE TO THIS PLAN. AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, THE NEXT WOULD BE THE RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THE PLAN. UH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? WELL, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT, BUT TO BE HONEST, THERE ARE HOW MANY ITEMS ON THESE CHARTS AND I, I SUSPECT THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET CONSENSUS IN THIS MEETING ON HOW WE WANNA ORDER IT. PLUS THAT JUST COMPLETELY IGNORES THE FACT THAT STAFF HAS, AL HAS PROGRAMMED A LOT OF THIS AND SO WE CAN'T JUST START DICTATING, YOU KNOW, WELL YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS BEFORE YOU DO THIS. I JUST DON'T SEE THAT WORKING OUT THAT WAY, WHICH IS WHY I THINK OUR, OUR MOTION TO COUNSELORS SHOULD BE GENERALLY BROAD. WE CAN HIGHLIGHT CERTAIN PRIORITIES THAT, THAT THIS BODY CAN AGREE ON. BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S USEFUL TO TRY TO GO THROUGH AND NO, I, I WASN'T JUST, I'M TRYING TO GET A QUICK RESPONSE TO VOTE ON OUR SUPPORT ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING OR SUPPORT WITH SOME AMENDMENTS. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, TO CRAFT HERE IS THE ONE MOTION. SO, UH, LET ME JUST ASK, DO WE HAVE A MOTION JUST ON THE PLAN ITSELF AND OUR COMMISSION SUPPORT FOR THE PLAN COUNTER MO? UH, UH, WE HAVE NO MOTION ON, THERE'S NO MOTION ON THE TABLE. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CRAFT SOMETHING I'M ADVOCATING FOR GIVE STAFF SOME INDICATION WHETHER OR NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORTS WHAT THEY HAVE WITH SOME CHANGES. IF COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ADD THOSE AMENDMENTS CHAIR, I WOULD MOVE. THEN I'M HAVING TO MAKE A BASE MOTION TO RECOMMEND STAFF PRESENTED PLAN. OKAY. THAT'S A, A MOTION. UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'M NOT SEEING A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE MOVE TO SUPPORT STAFF'S PLAN, UM, WITH ADD A DIRECTION THAT WE IN, UM, WE ADD TIME COMPRESSION . THERE'S GOTTA BE, I LOOK TO COMMISSIONER RAAR FOR BETTER WORDING FOR THIS . SO SUPPORT SAS PLAN WITH SERIOUS TIME [02:45:01] COMPRESSION IN, HOW DO WE WORD THAT? UH, UM, I'M SUPPORT STAFF'S PLAN WITH THE APPROPRIATE COMPRESSION TO ENSURE THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE COMPLETED BY THE END OF 2024. YES. 2020 HAVE DONE THIS YEAR. DO YOU WANNA TRY TO GET IT DONE THIS YEAR THEN DO IT 2022? I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE. I'M GONNA TRY TO, THERES NOT, I WOULD I WITHDRAW ONE? WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION. YES. CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE. I WAS GONNA TRY TO PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT'S AN AMENDMENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE AMENDMENT WILL WORK. I SUPPORT THE, UM, EFFORT TO ORGANIZE AND STREAMLINE AND PROVIDE DATES AND, AND, AND TIME AND MEASURABLE TIME GOALS FOR THESE, UH, VARIOUS CODE AMENDMENTS SO THAT I SUPPORT. SO I SUPPORT THE EFFORT EXPRESSED THROUGH, THROUGH THIS CHART. HOWEVER, I THINK COUNCIL, UM, AND THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE, UM, HELD HEARINGS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, COMMUNITY VOICED SUPPORT FOR A DIFFERENT SET OF PRIORITIZATIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PLAN AND THE PRIORITIZATIONS THAT COUNCIL PUT FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, SOMETHING THAT MEETS IN THE MIDDLE. UM, AND I SEE THIS PLAN AS RIGHT NOW BEING TOO MUCH OF A DEPARTURE FROM THE PRIORITIES THAT COUNCIL, THAT A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED COUNCIL ARTICULATED FOR THE CITY. AND SO I I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TRANSFORM THAT INTO A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, A BETTER EFFORT TO BRING THIS INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE OUTLINED BY COUNCIL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT I DO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT TO ORGANIZE AND STREAMLINE THE TIMELINE AROUND THE WORK. CAN, CAN I HAVE CLARITY ON FROM THE MOTION MAKER, WHAT, WHAT DIFFERS? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK DIFFERS BETWEEN COUNCIL PRIORITIES AND WHAT THIS PLAN PRESENTS? THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS, UM, BUT THE COUNCIL PRIORITIES DIDN'T HAVE EXACT TIMELINES ALIGNED WITH THEM. SO I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR SOME DISCUSSION. I NEED TO PULL UP THE CHART THAT COUNCIL MADE WITH ITS PRIORITIES, WHICH I MIGHT HAVE TO FIND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA SEE RIGHT NOW. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY DIFFER IN SEVERAL WAYS AROUND THE, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO COME FIRST VERSUS WHAT COUNCIL HAD ARTICULATED THAT IT WANTED TO SEE COME FIRST. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S, I I THERE'S JUST TOO MANY, YOU KNOW, I THINK. YEAH. UM, SO, SO I'M HEARING A COUPLE OF THINGS IS WE'RE SUPPORTING THE, UM, WE SUPPORT STAFF'S EFFORTS TO SCHEDULE AND PRIORITIZE THE CODE AMENDMENTS, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION WE WOULD BE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT COUNCIL, UH, DIRECTION ON PRIORITIZATION A AGAIN AND ALSO COMPRESS THE TIMELINE TO TRY TO GET THESE COMPLETED WITHIN 2020. EXACTLY. FOUR, THREE, YEAH. COMPRESS THE TIMELINE, PARTICULARLY AROUND ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES, KNOWING THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD SEVERAL ROUNDS AT A COMPREHENSIVE CODE UPDATE CONVERSATION. IT'S NOT LIKE THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE NEW TO THE CITY OR COMING OUT OF THE BLUE. RIGHT? SO THIS IS STUFF THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT. SO I THINK IN A, I SEE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE TYPING, BUT UH, IT'S, WE REALLY WANT TO, I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. AGAIN, THE ORGANIZATION, THE SCHEDULING, THE PLANNING, ALL GOOD. BUT I FEEL WE WANT TO INTERJECT, PLEASE CONSIDER, UH, PREVIOUS MEETINGS OF COUNCIL WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD DIFFERENCE IN THE PRIORITIZATION OF THESE CODE AMENDMENTS. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LEAVE IT GENERAL IS SIGNIFICANTLY COMPRESSING THE TIMELINE FOR COMPLETION OF THESE, UH, AMENDMENTS AND JUST MAYBE NOT HAVE A DATE CERTAIN, BUT JUST PUT SOME URGENCY. I'M JUST FLOATING THESE BY. WE DON'T HAVE A I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE IF I WAS STAFF SITTING, STANDING AT THE PODIUM RIGHT NOW, I'D BE LIKE, WHAT THE HECK ARE Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT? WELL, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL THESE THINGS UP, RIGHT? THIS IS TO COUNCIL THIS NOT TO STAFF. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. BUT WE'RE TELLING STAFF TO REORDER THEIR PRIORITIES BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION. WHEN I DON'T RECALL COUNCIL EVER IT WAS TELLING STAFF HOW TO SORRY, SORRY, GO AHEAD. UM, SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS WAS ACTUALLY ITEM 52 AT LAST WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING. I JUST SENT THE CHART TO A FEW FOLKS, BUT, UM, THIS WAS ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED AND VOTED ON LAST WEEK. AND SO THERE IS A SPECIFIC SET OF PRIORITIES [02:50:01] THAT CAME OUT OF THE HOUSING AND PLANNING, UM, GROUP. AND THEY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND RECOMMENDED TO STAFF. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONCERN IS, IS THAT THERE ARE A SET OF PRIORITIES FROM COUNCIL THAT MAY NOT BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE SEE IN THESE CANT CHARTS. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A SCHEDULE PROVIDED BY VOTED ON MY COUNCIL. AND CAN I, IF I GO AHEAD, UNDERSTAND, PLEASE PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION. UM, THE, THE COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK WHERE THERE WAS THE PRIORITIZATION CHART THAT HAD BEEN PREPARED BY THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE AT THE PREVIOUS HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING WAS POSTED FOR COUNCIL ACTION. BUT THE ACTUAL ACTION THAT COUNCIL TOOK AT LAST WEEK'S, UM, MEETING WAS A MOTION THAT THEY APPROVED THAT CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THE CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH THE PRIORITIZATION AS OUTLINED IN THE JUNE 5TH MEMO TITLED UPDATE ON THE TIMING OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS, WHICH IS THE MEMO THAT SAMUEL'S BACKUP FOR THIS EVENING. AND TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE ON PRIORITIZING AND ORGANIZING CURRENT AND FUTURE POTENTIAL LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS FOR THE GREATEST IMPACT ON HOUSING. SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE MOTION THAT WAS TAKEN AT LAST WEEK'S MEETING. THEY DID NOT, UM, TAKE MOTION TO ADOPT OR APPROVE THE MATRIX THAT HAD BEEN PLACED IN BACKUP. BUT JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, THE MATRIX WAS APPROVED AT THE PREVIOUS COMMITTEE MEETING THAT PRIOR TO THAT COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WAS A MOTION AND A, A SECOND AND A APPROVAL OF A MATRIX WITH AMENDMENTS AT THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING PRIOR. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, MY PROPOSED MOTION WOULD BE TO MAKE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY STAFF AND WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE. IF NOT BY ALL OF COUNCIL, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT BETTER ALIGNS THOSE TWO SETS OF RECOMMENDATIONS. MAY I SECOND THE MOTION ? YES. CAN I STATE THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I NOTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MOTION MAKER ARE SECONDARY, OR THIS IS, IF I'M CAPTURING THIS CORRECTLY. SO I HAVE MOVED TO SUPPORT STAFF'S PROPOSAL WITH ADDED DIRECTION TO CONTINUE EFFORTS TO ORGANIZE AND STREAMLINE THESE EFFORTS TO COMPRESS THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH COMPLETION OF THESE ITEMS AND ALIGN THIS PLAN WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COUNCIL'S HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE AND OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER GROUPS. AND IT'S A LITTLE WINDY, UM, WITH CONTINUED EFFORT. WHAT WAS THE PART ABOUT CONTINUED EFFORT? IT'S A LITTLE ROBUST CUZ I'M TRYING TO CAPTURE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S MOVED TO SUPPORT STAFF PROPOSAL WITH ADDED DIRECTION TO CONTINUE EFFORTS TO ORGANIZE AND STREAMLINE THESE EFFORTS. OR WE CAN GET RID OF THAT AND SAY DO COMPRESS THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH COMPLETION. CUZ CURRENTLY I HAVE CONTINUED EFFORTS TO ORGANIZE AND STREAMLINE THESE EFFORTS TO COMPRESS THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH COMPLETION. TOO MANY EFFORTS, . OKAY, SO I'LL REMOVE THAT. SO THEN WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME IS TO MAKE SURE, THIS IS WHAT OUR MOTION MAKER IS SAYING, MOVE TO SUPPORT STAFF PROPOSAL WITH ADDED DIRECTION TO CONTINUE EFFORTS TO COMPRESS THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH COMPLETION OF THESE ITEMS AND ALIGN THIS PLAN WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COUNCIL'S HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE AND OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER GROUPS. CAN, UH, MOTION MAKER, IS THAT REFLECT YOUR YES. I'M TRYING TO SECOND. OKAY. UM, YES. LET'S, LET'S GO AND SEE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I THINK WE, WE HAVE A SECOND VICE COMMISSIONER WOODS. GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO IT AND LET'S TRY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH STAKEHOLDERS AROUND THESE ITEMS AND I THINK THAT A NUMBER OF OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT COUNCIL WAS ELECTED WITH A VERY EXPLICIT MANDATE FROM THE COMMUNITY. THEY RAN ON DOING SOMETHING AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING. AND SO IT'S A LITTLE, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT STILL NEEDS TO GO INTO THIS. I'M NOT BEING DISMISSIVE OF THAT WORK AND I FULLY SUPPORT THAT THE BUDGET NEEDS TO BE THERE. WE NEED TO INVEST IN THIS DEPARTMENT AND GIVE THIS DEPARTMENT EVERY RESOURCE THAT IT NEEDS IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL. BUT I JUST CANNOT ACCEPT THAT WE ARE GOING TO ONLY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, APPROVING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE ORDINANCE AROUND PARKING, FOR INSTANCE SOMETIME IN THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR. IT'S JUST, IT, IT JUST FEELS WILDLY OUT OF SYNC WITH WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS AT AND WITH THE, THE TONE OF WHAT'S BEING EXPRESSED AND, YOU KNOW, BY FOLKS AND I, AND I JUST THINK THAT FUNDAMENTALLY THERE IS A QUESTION OF DEMOCRACY HERE BECAUSE A CERTAIN VISION FOR THE CITY RAN AND WAS ELECTED. AND I THINK THAT THAT VISION FOR THE CITY NEEDS TO HAVE A CHANCE. . WE NEED TO GIVE IT A FIGHTING CHANCE. THANK YOU. UH, ANY SPEAKERS AGAINST THIS MOTION? MR. THOMPSON? MR. COX, CAN I, CAN I, UH, OFFER UP AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? YES, YOU CAN. LET'S, UH, I, I JUST WANNA DELETE THE, UH, THE SPECIFICITY TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE. I'D RATHER REFER [02:55:01] TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS APPROVED BY THE ENTIRE COUNCIL BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE PRODUCED SOMETHING THAT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL DID NOT ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND APPROVE. AND I FEEL LIKE THERE'S PROBABLY A REASON FOR THAT. SO INSTEAD OF POINTING OUT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THE COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATIONS. I I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHERE COMMISSIONER CONLEY WAS TRYING TO, IS PUT THIS MORE IN COUNCIL'S AREA LIST ABOUT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE. IS THAT TRUE? DO YOU WANNA MAKE THAT A AMEND? NO, IT IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE. OKAY. UM, THE HOUSING COMMITTEE PRODUCED SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS. COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATIONS, AS WE HEARD HERE, WERE TOO BROAD AND VAGUE. AND COUNCIL GAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY, UM, TO THE MANAGER AND STAFF TO GO AND LOOK AT THIS AND FIGURE IT OUT. AND THAT'S FINE. IT'S TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE WHY THEY DID THAT. BUT I THINK THAT WHAT THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE PRODUCED, THEY PRODUCED IN A PUBLIC MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS PRESENT, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INPUT AROUND THAT. AND THAT I THINK MUCH CLOSER ALIGNS WITH THE VALUES AND, AND, AND WHAT I BELIEVE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY WANNA SEE AROUND THIS. OKAY. SO THE CLARIFICATION OF RON IS ABOUT THE MOTION MAKER WANTS TO REALLY TARGET WHAT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE DID PRODUCE. SO THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. YEAH. AND MY, AND MY AMENDMENT IS TO, IS TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AS A WHOLE BECAUSE I DON'T OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? IT'S UP. YEAH, I HEAR YOU. UH, DO WE HAVE, I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP THINGS MADAM. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT? UH, NOT SEEING A SECOND. UM, COMMISSIONER COX? UH, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS AGAINST THIS ITEM? I THINK WE'VE HEARD SOME DIFFERENT APPRO. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? I WANNA SPEAK IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONER WOODS. I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS DOES COME WITH A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE REALLY DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE ON THIS. AND WE ARE DESPERATE TO GET STAFF THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO COMPRESS THIS TIMELINE. UM, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AT THE MOMENT. SO I, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS COMING IN CONJUNCTION WITH A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ARE WORKING ON. THANK YOU. UM, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS? ARE WE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT? NO, NO, THE AMENDMENT DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE MOTION. UH, BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY. SECONDED BY COMMISSION. WHO SECONDED THIS ONE? COMMISSIONER WOODS. THANK YOU. UH, LET ME JUST, SO ON THE DI THOSE IN FAVOR? SO THAT'S EVERYONE. WHAT'S THE COUNT? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. AND THEN COMMISSIONER COX IS VOTING AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR MOTION, BUT LET'S, UH, WE SPLIT IT. THE SECOND PART OF THIS, I THINK WE DID WANT TO INCLUDE SOMETHING ABOUT THE RESOURCES. DOES SOMEBODY WANNA PRESENT THAT? UH, COMMISSIONER COX, DO YOU WANNA FRAME UP THE RESOURCE, UM, RECOMMENDATION? CAUSE I THINK THIS WAS THE MAIN PART YOU WERE TRYING TO TARGET WITH YOUR, UM, RECOMMENDATION. I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW THAT FITS AT THIS POINT. OKAY. CHAIR, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. SORT OF BASED ON THE NOTES THAT I HAD, AND I AM WORKING ON THIS AS WE SPEAK. SO ESSENTIALLY, UM, RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL WORK TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY HAS SUFFICIENT STAFFING LEVELS TO ACCOMPLISH THE WORK BEING PROPOSED BY STAFF, INCLUDING PROVIDING FUNDING AND OTHER RESOURCES FOR STAFFING AND CONSIDERING WORK POLICIES THAT SUPPORT STAFF NEEDS. SO JUST WHAT I HEAR IS BOTH, UM, THE STAFFING AND CONTRACTING OPTIONS, BUT ALSO POLICIES TO, TO HELP WITH PRODUCTIVITY OF STAFF. I HEAR ALL THOSE THINGS IN THAT MOTION. IS THAT OKAY? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND MAYBE I SHOULD CLARIFY. SO WHEN WE SAY THAT THE CITY HAS SUFFICIENT STAFFING LEVELS, MAYBE WE SHOULD SAY, RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WORK TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY HAS SUFFICIENT STAFFING LEVELS, DO ACCOMPLISH THE WORK BEING PROPOSED BY STAFF, INCLUDING THE CONSIDERATION FOR THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS? YES. YES. AND THEN, OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND STATE COMMISSIONER. MAXWELL, DO YOU WANT ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I WANNA MAKE SURE I WROTE DOWN WHAT I JUST SPOKE. OKAY. SO, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. YEP. ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK TO THIS IN FAVOR AGAINST CHAIR? I'LL JUST QUICKLY SPEAK TO IT AND JUST SAY THAT I THINK I AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER WOODS AND COMMISSIONER COX ARE SAYING. I THINK THE MAIN POINT IS HOW DO WE SUPPORT OUR STAFF. I'LL BE HONEST, I WAS CONSIDERING THAT FIRST MOTION BECAUSE I'M NOT, I THINK WE'RE JUST NOT THERE. I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT TO HEAR WHAT OUR COUNCILS, COUNCIL COMMITTEES AND COUNCILORS WORKING ON. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS, ESSENTIALLY. WE'RE SORT OF INVENTING THE TRAIN AS WE'RE ON IT. UM, BUT I THINK THIS [03:00:01] ONE IS ONE THAT I THINK WE HAVE PRETTY BROAD AGREEMENT. WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF HAS ALL THE RESOURCES AND CONVENIENCES THEY NEED TO DO THIS WORK. I DO WANNA HONESTLY APPRECIATE THE FOLKS IN FRONT OF US AND APPRECIATE GENERATIONS OF FOLKS BEFORE THEM WHO HAVE WORKED ON THESE EXACT THINGS OVER THE PAST DECADE. SO HONESTLY, A BIG KUDOS TO THEM. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO DO THIS WORK. ALL RIGHT. UH, LET'S, UH, ANY MORE FOR OR AGAINST, OR CAN WE TAKE A VOTE? ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS MOTION? ALL RIGHT. UH, THEN IT PASSES. EVERYBODY LEFT THIS EVENING. UM, ANY OTHER CHAIR, COMMISSIONER FURTHER. SO YOU, UM, DIVIDED THE QUESTION, SO IF YOU WOULD JUST, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, ADOPT THE ITEM ALTOGETHER. OKAY. SO I GUESS WE'RE, WE'RE VOTING ON BOTH THESE SINCE WE SPLIT THE INITIAL MOTION. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON, UH, BOTH THESE ITEMS. UH, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT. I STILL, UH, I'M SHOWING COMMISSIONER COX IN OPPOSITION, THE REMAINDER. I, I DON'T SEE ANY. SO THAT MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UM, ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO DO? TAKE ACTION ON COMMISSION. UM, MR. RIVERA, AS FAR AS THOSE DATES, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO KIND OF, UH, LOCK IN THOSE DATES FOR POTENTIAL, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION? GO AHEAD. SHERIFF, IF I MIGHT, UH, MR. RIVER HAD ASKED IF WE COULD DO SORT OF A STRAW POLL AND JUST UNDERSTAND FROM FOLKS IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO DO THOSE THIRD TUESDAYS OF THE MONTHS IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS AUGUST AND OCTOBER CHAIR COMMISSION. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. AND, UM, WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR SCHEDULE, UM, FOR, UH, SOME OF Y'ALL WHO, UH, MIGHT HAVE PTSD FROM THE, UH, PREVIOUS, UH, COEX HEARINGS, UM, WE, UH, OFTEN, UH, STARTED THE MEETING AT 5:00 PM TO JUST GIVE THE COMMISSION ADDITIONAL TIME. SO THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING TO, UH, CONSIDER AS WELL. , THAT'S YOUR REGULAR MEETINGS. ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, REAL QUICK, IT WAS, UH, THE 31ST AND MY NOTES. WHAT WAS THE OTHER DATE? AUGUST 29TH. AUGUST 29TH. UH, JUST SHOW A HAND. I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE WAYS OUT, BUT SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE VACATION PLANNED, BUT, UM, DOES ANYBODY, LET'S JUST SAY ANYBODY THAT IS AWARE THAT THEY CAN'T MAKE THOSE DATES AT THIS POINT, SEE COMMISSIONER COX? OKAY. UH, ONE OR BOTH OF THEM. UH, THE 31ST IS GONNA BE A PROBLEM, AND I'LL JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE GOT SCOLDED PRETTY WELL FOR HAVING A MEETING. WAS IT ELECTION DAY? I THINK WEEK DAY, YEAH. ELECTION DAY. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF HAVING A MEETING, SPECIAL MEETING ON HALLOWEEN OR FAMILIES ARE OUT AND ABOUT IS A GOOD IDEA. EITHER. SO WE, WE CAN CHAIR COHEN, BUT WHAT IF WE LIMIT TO JUST LIKE, STOP BRIEFING STUFF FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF STUFF WE CAN TAKE ACTION ON THAT WAY WE CAN STILL DO THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO WITHOUT. YOU MEAN ON THE, ON THE, ON THE SPECIAL ON HALLOWEEN SPECIFICALLY ONLY ON HALLOWEEN. SO THEN NOBODY GETS ANGRY. YEAH, IT MAY BE. UM, WELL, WHAT I SEE IS WE'VE GOT FOLKS AVAILABLE, BUT THERE MAY BE, IT MAY NOT BE JUST GOOD POLICY THAT'S SCHEDULED ON THAT DATE. SOME OF US MAY BE HANDING OUT TRICK TREAT CANDY. I ONE WEAR A COSTUME HALL . AH, DIDN'T THINK OF THAT. WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE INTERESTING. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'LL MONITOR THAT AND WE CAN, WE CAN CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF THAT FIFTH TUESDAY. IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER. SO THAT IS AN OPTION. ALL RIGHT. UH, LET'S SPEED [27. Discussion and possible action establishing a working group tasked to provide a FY 2023-2024 Budget recommendation for Planning Commission consideration. (Sponsors: Commissioners Woods and Maxwell.)] ALONG HERE. UM, WHAT DO WE HAVE NEXT? THE BUDGET ITEM? OBJECTION. YES. YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND SPONSORS ON THAT ONE? SPEAK. UH, SO DID YOU MEANING ME TO MAKE A MOTION? I'M SORRY, I WAS CONFUSED AT THE REQUEST. YEAH, I GUESS, UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT DO WE SLATE? WHAT UP HERE? YEAH, WE PUT THIS, UH, I THINK WE'RE IN, UH, WE HAD, WE DISCUSSED THIS SOMEWHAT LAST TIME, AND I THINK THERE IS PRETTY BROAD AGREEMENT FOR THIS, UH, WORKING GROUP, BUT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE IN THE MEMBERS, WELL, THE GROUP AND THE MEMBERS. SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CREATE A WORKING GROUP AROUND THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION TO, UH, THE BUDGETARY GROUP, CITY OF AUSTIN BUDGET GROUP IN PRIOR TO THEIR RECONVENING IN JULY. OKAY. UH, SO WE HAVE A SECOND SECONDED BY THE OTHER SPONSOR, UH, COMMISSIONER WOODS. AND MR. COHEN, DID YOU WANNA, UH, OH, I JUST WANTED TO VOLUNTEER TO BE IN THIS WORKING GROUP. I, I DIDN'T INITIALLY, BUT BASED ON WHAT, UH, LIAISON RIVERA TOLD US EARLIER, I, I WOULD MOST DEFINITELY LIKE TO BE [03:05:01] IN THIS WORKING GROUP NOW. OKAY. WHO ELSE WANTS TO JOIN OUR SPONSORS? UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. ANYONE ELSE WANNA BE ON THIS TEAM? UH, COMMISSIONER COX. THANK YOU. UH, WE HAVE SOME FOLKS OUT. UM, SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MAXWELL, COMMISSIONER WOODS, TWO SPONSORS, COMMISSIONER COX COMMI, CHAIR COHEN, AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. ALSO CHAIR, I THINK, DON'T WE HAVE A JUNE 30TH DEADLINE ON THIS? WE HAVE TO DO 90 DAYS BEFORE THE, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR BYLAWS, 90 DAYS BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, WHICH IS OCTOBER 1ST. SO THAT'S JULY 3RD. AND I THINK, UH, CLERK LIKES US TO HAVE IT IN BY JUNE 30TH. I IS THAT THE C P? YEAH. SO THIS IS MORE THAT'S DIFFERENT. OKAY. YEAH, THE C I P WE'RE, WE'VE GOT THAT ON CONSENT. THIS IS MORE, I GUESS MORE O AND M, LIKE OPERATION MAINTENANCE KIND OF BUDGET STUFF ON STAFFING. SO I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE GOOD HERE. AWESOME. OKAY. UH, ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO. AND, UH, LET'S JUST, SO, UH, WE HEARD THE MOTION, LET'S, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS WORKING GROUP BEING FORMED WITH THE MEMBERS PROPOSED? ALL RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER, I WILL NOT BE IN ANOTHER WORKING GROUP, BUT I DO WANNA RECOMMEND, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, UM, HAD WORKED ON A RECOMMENDATION AROUND ASSESSING THE WORK FROM HOME POLICY. UM, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS FORWARDED TO THE JOINT PLAN COMMITTEE AS WE WERE ADDRESSING IMAGINE AUSTIN, BUT I THINK THAT WORK IS GOING TO BE DELAYED, SO I JUST HOPE THIS COMMITTEE CAN LOOK AT THAT. AND MR. RIVERA, IF YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH THE, THE WORKING GROUP, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU. SO JUST, UH, FROM MR. RIVERA, FROM WHAT YOU HEARD OF THE SCOPE, DOES THAT FIT WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE WORKING GROUP AS YOU HEARD THE MOTION? YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO GET AN OUTSIDE OPINION ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. FUTURE [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] AGENDA ITEMS. COMMISSIONER DESAR, ASK YOU FIRST. PLEASE GO AHEAD. , YOU GUYS, WHAT HAVE YOU. PLEASE CHAIR. I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. UM, TIME PERMITTING. I WOULD REALLY SAY THIS IS NOT SOMETHING URGENT, BUT I THINK IT REALLY WOULD BE HELPFUL, INCLUDING FOR MYSELF, IF WE COULD HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF WALK US THROUGH THE KIND OF TRANSPORTATION ASSESSMENT AND THE WORK THAT'S DONE AT SITE PLAN. I THINK OFTENTIMES WE'RE RUNNING INTO THESE QUESTIONS AND I THINK WE'RE BEING TOLD LIKE, HEY, THIS WILL BE HANDLED AT SITE PLAN, BUT SOME OF US ARE NOT FULLY AWARE OF WHAT THE SITE PLAN PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE, UH, FOR STAFF IF WE HAVE A MEETING, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A HEAVY AGENDA TO MAYBE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF TO GUIDE US TO WHAT IS DONE AT THAT LEVEL SO THAT WE ARE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT WORK IS DONE EVEN AFTER OUR WORK HERE IS DONE. YEAH, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. OKAY. SO LET'S, UH, COMMISSION ANDERSON. YEAH, WELL, I'D LOVE TO CHAT WITH STATON COMING, UH, STAFF AND GET A MAYBE A PRESENTATION OR AT LEAST A DOCUMENT JUST SHARING HOW THE CITY LOOKS TO COMPLY WITH HOUSE BILL 14. I GUESS THE, THE GOVERNOR SIGNED IT THIS PAST WEEKEND AND BECAME LAW, I GUESS IT WAS RECORDED ON MONDAY AND I GUESS IT BECOMES LAW IN SEPTEMBER. BUT, UM, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR HOW WE LOOK TO COMPLY WITH IT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S DESIGNED TO GIVE THE CITY AN APPLICANT A RELEASE VALVE WHEN REVIEWS BECOME BOGGED DOWN. AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK TO, TO STAY WITHIN THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW. I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT GOES. AND I'D LOVE TO GET KIND OF A DATE ON THE RECORD AS FAR AS WHEN WE LOOK TO, TO HEAR BACK FROM STAFF. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA, MAYBE WE CAN JUST HEAR FROM STAFF OFFLINE, LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING, OR IF WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON AGENDA WE CAN, BUT JUST WANTED TO SHARE AND GET MORE ON THAT. THANKS. OKAY. ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? ALRIGHT, SCENE NONE. LET'S [BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES] GO AHEAD AND GET THROUGH OUR, UH, UPDATES HERE. UH, CODES ORNS, HE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM. UM, CHAIR, WE, WE ARE ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO MEET NEXT WEEK, SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. CONFERENCE AND PLAN. JOINT COMMITTEE, WE FOCUSED ON, UM, TWO ITEMS. ONE OF THEM WAS THE CIP P, WHICH WAS FORWARDED TO BC TODAY, AND WE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL, UH, WE HAD A CONSIDERATION OF THE MAG AUSTIN, UH, PLANNED AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH THE COMING MONTHS BECAUSE WE, WE HAD A CONSIDERABLE CONVERSATION AND THERE WAS ONE MORE ITEM, WHICH I'M FORGETTING THAT WE POSTPONED AGAIN BECAUSE WE SORT OF RAN OUT OF TIME BECAUSE OF THE LENGTHY CONVERSATION AROUND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REPORT. I THINK IT WAS THE EXACT, IT WAS THE, OH, IT WAS REALLY RELATED TO OUR SORT OF INTERNAL WORKINGS OF THE GROUP. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, ANYTHING TO REPORT THERE? COMMISSIONER WOODS? NO UPDATES. OKAY. NO UPDATES. UH, SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE. UM, I THINK WE'VE LOST EVERYBODY. UH, BUT ME, SO QUITE A BIT OF TALK ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD APPROACH FUTURE, UH, SMALL AREA PLANNING. UM, I CAME IN A LITTLE LATE, HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, BUT I, I SOUNDS LIKE IN MUCH OF THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CODES, IT'S HOW DO WE APPROACH PLANNING AND I THINK BROAD SUPPORT FOR TAKING ON LARGER AREAS. WHAT INTERESTED ME IS KIND [03:10:01] OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THESE LARGER AREA PLANS, HOW WE, UM, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE, UH, SMALLER NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME AND, AND GET THOSE THINGS TO WORK IN HARMONY. SO I THINK THOSE ARE CHALLENGES THAT STAFF AND, UH, THIS, UH, JOINT COMMITTEE WILL HAVE. UM, AND THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD. COMMISSIONER MAXWELL IS THERE. UM, UH, UNFORTUNATELY OUR JUNE MEETING IS GOING TO BE, UH, I THINK CANCELED BECAUSE WE HAVE LACK OF QUORUM. SO IT WILL BE JULY BEFORE YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES. OKAY. AND WE HAVE SOME WORKING GROUPS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND DUPLEXES WORKING GROUP. ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? UM, JERRY NOEL. COMMISSIONER STROLLER IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME, BUT WE, WE'VE BEEN CONSIDERING THAT WORK AND WE PAUSED THAT AS WE WERE READING TO SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE WAS WORKING ON. OKAY. UM, I THINK WE'LL SORT OF PICK UP FROM THERE WITH HONESTLY THE CAVEAT THAT I, I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO RECONSIDER THE WORK OF THAT WORKING GROUP IN LIGHT OF THE COMING AMENDMENTS ON ADAS THAT WE HAVE FROM STAFF. OKAY. THAT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR YOU GUYS TO TALK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN WORKING GROUP. UM, YEAH, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS OF GETTING ADDITIONAL UPDATES FROM STAFF AND THOSE WORKING PLAN AND WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS TO PLANNING COMMISSION I BELIEVE IN TWO WEEKS OR MAYBE THE MEETING AFTER THAT. ANYTHING ON THE DESIGN GUIDELINES UPDATE? I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE. I MISS YESTERDAY'S MEETING. CLAIRE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING FOR HER GROUP. OKAY. AND PALM DISTRICT? PALM DISTRICT. PALM DISTRICT. WE MET WITH, UH, OR WE HAD A LISTING SESSION LAST WEEK. UH, WE GOT SOME REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK. I'M SENDING OUT, UH, PROBABLY A CALENDAR LEAK CUZ DUE TO PULSE A LITTLE RESTRICTED. WE NEED TO GET MEETING. I WANNA PICK A DAY SOMETIME BETWEEN THURSDAY THIS WEEK AND FRIDAY OF NEXT WEEK WHERE WE COULD SIT AND GO OVER, UM, MAKE OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATIONS AND AMENDMENTS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT SOMETHING TO THIS BODY BY THE JUNE 27TH MEETING. BECAUSE JULY 11TH. YEAH, THE JULY 11TH MEETING IS WHEN I WANT US TO, TO FINISH IT OFF AND VOTE ON IT AND SEND IT UP TO COUNCIL. SO THAT'LL GIVE US THE, UH, ADDITIONAL TIME NEEDED TO, IF WE WANNA MAKE CHANGES, UH, TO TAKE AN ANOTHER WORKING GROUP MEETING IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO MEETINGS. THE, THE 27TH AND THE JULY 11TH MEETING. OKAY. IF WE NEED IT. YEAH. COULD I ASK A QUESTION FIRST? SURE. MR. ZARK, UH, STAFF, JUST UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, CUZ THEY'LL BE GOING INTO BUDGET VERY, VERY SOON COMING OUT OF THE SUMMER. WOULD JULY 11TH STILL WORK TO HAVE SOMETHING PERHAPS ON THE JULY 20TH COUNCIL AGENDA? LIKE ESSENTIALLY I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW DO WE SUPPORT Y'ALL'S TIMELINE ON THIS HOUSE? STEVIE GREATHOUSE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, AGAIN, UP HERE FOR PALM DISTRICT PLAN. UM, SO ON THE JULY 20TH COUNCIL AGENDA, WE ARE CURRENTLY MOVING FORWARD. COUNSEL DID POSTPONE THE LAST TIME THEY POSTPONED THE JULY 20TH. WE'LL BE SENDING OUT A NEW, UM, REQUIRED NOTICE FOR AMENDMENTS TO IMAGINE AUSTIN TO COVER THAT JULY 20TH MEETING DATE. UM, SO CERTAINLY, UM, INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD FROM PLANNING COMMISSION ON JULY 11TH, UM, WOULD BE FAR ENOUGH IN ADVANCE TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE JULY 20TH DATE. I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND I GUESS IF I CAN JUST RE REQUEST THE WORKING GROUP AT THE JUNE MEETING, IF WE CAN SHARE SOME, SOME IF, WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE WORKING GROUP IS INTERNALLY WORKING. Y'ALL MIGHT ALREADY BE DOING THIS, BUT IF WE CAN SHARE WITH STAFF WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING SO THAT THEY HAVE FULL INFORMATION IS THAT'S THE PLAN. AND, AND IF WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BRING FORWARD TO THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN ALWAYS VOTE ON IT AT THE JUNE 27TH MEETING TO GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL TIME. RISHI, THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHAIR COHEN. OKAY. UH, CHAIR COMMISSION. LAY ON ENVER JUST REAL QUICK IN REGARDS TO THE AS AND P AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION. UM, STAFF HAS, UM, BEEN, I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT STAFF WILL BE PROVIDING, UH, THE BACKUP, UH, THE, UH, REVISED BACKUP, UH, THIS COMING FRIDAY, UH, THE 16TH. SO, UM, YOU'LL RECEIVE THAT IN YOUR EMAILS, UH, SOON. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, LET'S, UH, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, I'M GONNA MOVE TO ADJOURN UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT TO COVER COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO IT IS 9 32 AND I'M ADJOURNING THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WHERE DO YOU GO WHEN YOU CAN GO, WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN THEY START? WHO DO YOU KNOW? [03:15:02] WE'RE ALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.