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TWO, UH, LET ME CALL TO

[CALL TO ORDER]

ORDER THIS WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 2ND TWO, UH, 2023, MEETING OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION, THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, WE ARE AT CITY HALL CHAMBERS, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

I KNOW IT FEELS LIKE PHOENIX OUTSIDE, BUT YOU ARE IN CITY OF AUSTIN AND WE ARE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF THE LANDMARKS.

UH, WHAT I'LL DO THIS EVENING IS, UH, I'LL READ THROUGH THE AGENDA.

WE'LL GO OVER, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, CONSENT CASES, FIRST, THE POSTPONEMENT CASES, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO OUR DISCUSSION CASES.

UH, BE BEFORE THAT, LET ME START BY HAVING, UH, MS. ALLEN, WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE? USUALLY THE CHAIR CALLS THE ROLE, BUT I CAN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, COMMISSION CHAIR BEN HEIM.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER WHIT FEATHERSTON.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER KEVIN COOK, PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER CARL LAROCHE.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER TREY MCW.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER HARMONY GROGAN.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER JAMIE ALVAREZ.

PRESENT.

SORRY.

HAY, I'M SO SORRY.

COMMISSIONER ROXANNE EVANS.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER RAYMOND CASTILLO.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER JUAN RAYMOND RUBIO PRESENT.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER TARA DUDLEY WILL BE ABSENT THIS EVENING.

ALL RIGHT.

AND BEFORE WE GO INTO OUR AGENDA, WE ARE POSTED FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

UH, MS. ALLEN, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO SIGNED UP? YES, WE HAVE MEGAN KING OF PRESERVATION.

AUSTIN.

OKAY, MS. KING.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I HAVE MY MONTHLY UPDATE FROM PRESERVATION AUSTIN FOR YOU ALL.

UM, OUR, WELL, I'LL START WITH THE MOST RECENT THING FIRST.

SO TOMORROW NIGHT WE ARE SUPPORTING AN EVENT OF THE, UM, OLD L C ANDERSON ALUMNI.

THEY ARE HAVING AN OPENING FOR A YELLOWJACKET CONFERENCE CENTER, WHICH IS AT THE SITE OF THE OLD L C ANDERSON SCHOOL, AS WELL AS A MARKER DEDICATION CEREMONY FOR YELLOWJACKET STADIUM.

UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE GIVING TOURS OF THE SITE IN THE CONFERENCE CENTER, WHICH WILL BE POPULATED WITH LOTS OF MEMORABILIA FROM OLD ELSIE ANDERSON.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, FAMILIAR, IT'S UM, IT WAS AUSTIN'S ONLY BLACK HIGH SCHOOL DURING SEGREGATION.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE PARTNERING WITH THE ALUMNI ASSOCIATION AND, UM, WE HOPE YOU ALL CAN JOIN US.

IT'S FREE TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, OUR CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR OUR PRESERVATION MERIT AWARDS WILL CLOSE ON AUGUST 11TH.

UM, THOSE ARE FOR PROJECTS LOCATED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, I BELIEVE.

UM, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF CATEGORIES OF AWARDS.

WE HAVE PRESERVATION AWARDS, WE HAVE SPECIAL RECOGNITION AWARDS THAT RECOGNIZE EDUCATION PROJECTS AND ADVOCACY PROJECTS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, STEWARDSHIP AWARDS.

SO IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN APPLYING, THEY CAN VISIT PRESERVATION AUSTIN.ORG.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE'LL BE HAVING OUR, UM, A MEMBERS ONLY EVENT AT THE BROKEN SPOKE.

UM, LATER THIS MONTH ON AUGUST 22ND, IT'S GONNA BE OUR ANNUAL MEETING.

UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE BROKEN SPOKE WAS JUST DESIGNATED AS A CITY OF AUSTIN LANDMARK, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO CELEBRATE THAT SUCCESS WITH THEM AND OUR MEMBERS.

SO IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, THEY CAN ALSO BECOME A MEMBER ON OUR WEBSITE@PRESERVATIONAUSTIN.ORG.

AND THAT WILL BE ALL FOR ME TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, MS. KING, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I WILL GO

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

THROUGH THE AGENDA.

WE WILL, UH,

[Consent Agenda]

INDICATE IF AN ITEM IS ON CONSENT, UH, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.

BE AWARE THAT IF IT'S A CONSENT ITEM, WE WILL NOT NEED A PRESENTATION OR A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IF IT STAYS AND IS VOTED ON THE CONSENT, THEN IT WILL BE PASSED WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THAT HAVE GONE IN THE, IN THE BACKUP.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE REQUEST POSTPONEMENT AND UNLESS THERE IS AN ISSUE REGARDING THAT, THAT ALSO FOLLOWS THE CONSENT.

AND THEN WE WILL TAKE IN ORDER THE ITEMS POSTED ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.

HOWEVER, IF AS I GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, THERE IS AN ITEM THAT IS POSTED FOR CONSENT THAT ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE OR ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE US TO POLL, THEN WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT A DISCUSSION ITEM AND WOULD TAKE IT OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO AT THIS POINT, I'LL START WITH THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

WE WILL HAVE TWO BRIEFINGS.

UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, WE'LL HAVE PRESERVATION TRIUMPHS AS IT IS, UH, WITH, UH, MELISSA ALVARADO GIVING US AN UPDATE.

UH, ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, WE WILL HAVE A, UH, PRESENTATION ABOUT FIVE 17 BOLD AVENUE.

UH, THIS WAS A DEMOLITION THAT, UH, FELL UNDER THE, UH, CHURCH RE REGULATIONS, UH, THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS MANDATED.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT'S 25 0 2 JARRETT AVENUE, ITEM NUMBER 5 6 0 6

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EAST THIRD STREET.

THAT WILL ALSO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER 6 6 0 8 EAST THIRD STREET WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

UH, THESE HAVE BEEN ON OUR AGENDA PREVIOUSLY AND, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY WHEN WE DISCUSS THEM TO TAKE THEM, UH, TOGETHER AS A SINGLE CASE, BUT THAT WILL REQUIRE A MOTION AT THAT TIME.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN 11, UH, 11 5 1 1 5 EAST FIFTH STREET.

THAT IS A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT 2000 MAPLE AVENUE IS OFFERED AS A CONSENT ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER 9 6 0 5 HIGHLAND AVENUE IS OFFERED AS A CONSENT ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER TEN FOUR OH TWO WEST 12TH STREET.

THAT IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 11 13 12 NEWING AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 12 8 0 1 OAKLAND AVENUE IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER 13 5 12 EAST MONROE STREET.

THAT IS A POSTPONEMENT REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.

ITEM 14 14 0 9 ALTA VISTA AVENUE.

THAT IS A POSTPONEMENT REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.

ITEM 15 8 16 CONGRESS AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 16, 2100, UH, 2100 NEWFIELD LANE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 17 WAS WITHDRAWN.

THAT'S, UH, 3 0 0 1 FUNDS AND STREET.

UH, THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED AND IT'S NO LONGER REQUIRED TO BE ON OUR AGENDA.

ITEM 1896 RAINY STREET IS OFFERED FOR DISCUSSION.

ITEM NUMBER 19 7 19, CONGRESS AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 2081 WALLER STREET IS POSTED AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

WE'LL GO TO THE DEMOLITION RELOCATION PERMIT.

APPLICANT'S APPLICATIONS.

UH, ITEM 21, THAT'S 400 BRADY LANE.

UH, THAT IS A POSTPONEMENT REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.

ITEM 22, UH, 10 0 6 EAST 39TH STREET.

THAT IS A CONSENT ITEM.

UH, CHAIR I'D LIKE TO PULL.

ITEM, UM, 19, ITEM 19, 7 19, CONGRESS AVENUE.

WE WILL MAKE THAT A DISCUSSION ITEM.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, THAT GETS US TO, LET'S SEE, WE WERE AT ITEM 22.

10 0 6.

EAST 39TH STREET IS A CONSENT ITEM 23.

IT'S POSTED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 23 47 0 7 REYES STREET, UH, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 24 9 0 9 WEST GIBSON STREET.

IT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 25, 2300 EUCLID AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 26 34 0 6.

MARY LAND AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 27 24 0 7 MCCULLOUGH STREET.

IT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 28 14 0 9.

CRESTWOOD ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AND THE FINAL ITEM, UH, ADDRESS IS 59 0 1 CARY DRIVE, ITEM 29.

AND THAT IS ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

OUR ADDITIONAL, UH, ITEMS ARE POSTED FOR, UH, HAVING APPOINTMENTS TO THE FOR STANDING COMMITTEES, UH, FOR THE, UH, COMMISSION.

OKAY.

UM, AT THIS POINT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.

UH, THAT IS FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE.

UH, EXCUSE ME.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, 2000 MAPLE 9 6 0 5 HIGHLAND 11 13 12 NEWING 15 8 16, CONGRESS 16, 2100 NEWFIELD LANE.

ITEM 22, 10 0 6 EAST 39TH STREET.

ITEM 23 47 0 7 REYES 24, 9 0 9 WEST GIBSON 25 2300 EUCLID 26 34 0 6.

MARY LYNN LANE, UH, MARYLAND AVENUE 27 24 0 7 MCCULLOUGH 28 14 0 9 CRESTWOOD N 29 59 0 1.

CARRIE, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

OKAY.

THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

THOSE ITEMS ARE FOR CASSETTE.

IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THOSE ITEMS, YOUR ITEMS HAVE PASSED.

AND, UH, IF THOSE ARE DEMOLITION REQUESTS, YOU'LL BE CONTACTED BY STAFF.

WE DO HAVE A PACKET OF DOCUMENTATION THAT IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE RELEASE OF THE PERMIT.

OKAY.

LET US MOVE ALSO, IF YOU DO PLAN

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ON LEAVING, UH, YOU CAN GRAB STICKERS, UH, FROM THE SECURITY DESK, UM, BEFORE YOU LEAVE AS WE DO.

STILL DON'T HAVE STICKERS.

OKAY.

OR YOU CAN JUST PAY FULL FARE.

YEAH.

.

OKAY.

CHAIR SETH.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT HAS BEEN, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

UH, ACTUALLY, I ALSO SAW, UH, COMMISSIONER EVANS FROM A DISTANCE.

THEY'RE SECONDS.

AND, UH, THOSE CASES ARE, UM, 1 5 1 15 EAST FIFTH STREET, NUMBER SEVEN.

NUMBER TEN FOUR OH TWO WEST 12TH STREET NUMBER 13 5 12 EAST MONROE STREET.

14 14 0 9 ALTA VISTA AVENUE, AND 21,400 BRADY LANE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

OKAY.

THOSE HAVE PASSED.

UH, WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE MAY START WITH OUR FIRST,

[2. Recent Preservation Triumphs]

UH, BRIEFING ITEM NUMBER TWO AND, UH, MS. ALVARADO.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.

MELISSA ALVARADO, HERITAGE TOURISM DIVISION MANAGER FOR THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

AFTER EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REIMAGINED ITS CULTURAL FUNDING PROGRAMS FOR ARTS, MUSIC AND HERITAGE TOURISM.

AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE'RE LEADING WITH AN INTENTIONAL FOCUS ON EQUITY AND INCLUSION, WHILE MORE EFFECTIVELY PROMOTING TOURISM.

THE DIVISION'S FOCUS IS HERITAGE TRAVEL WITH PURPOSE TO, TO CONNECT PEOPLE AND PRESERVATION THROUGH AUTHENTIC EXPERIENCES AND PLACES IN AUSTIN THAT ARE ROOTED IN HERITAGE AND HISTORY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE PURPOSE OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT IS TO PROMOTE TOURISM THROUGH THE RESTORATION OF HISTORIC PLACES AND THROUGH PLANNING, EDUCATIONAL OR MARKETING PROJECTS.

PROJECTS SHOULD TELL INCLUSIVE STORIES ON HISTORIC PLACES THAT ARE ROOTED IN AUSTIN'S HISTORY.

AND HERITAGE STATE LAW REQUIRES THE FUNDING TO BE USED TO PROMOTE TOURISM AND THE CONVENTION AND HOTEL INDUSTRIES.

AND IT REQUIRES THE GRANTS TO BE AWARDED TO PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE VICINITY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER OR IN A LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY, REASONABLY LIKELY TO BE VISITED BY TOURISTS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT IS AN ANNUAL PROGRAM, UM, THAT OFFERS FUNDING FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS AND HISTORY INFORMING ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE HERITAGE TOURISM IN AUSTIN, BOTH NONPROFIT AND FOR-PROFIT ENTITIES ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY AND PROJECTS MUST HAVE A HISTORIC DESIGNATION OR BE ELIGIBLE FOR A DESIGNATION.

PROJECTS MUST OCCUR WITHIN A COUNCIL, UM, AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND MUST BE ZONED NON-RESIDENTIAL WITH GROUNDS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO VIEW.

ALL PROJECTS MUST BE MARKETED TO INCREASE AND BENEFIT TOURISM AND EXPAND AUDIENCES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

PRIORITIES FOR THE DIVISION INCLUDE OUTREACH TO FIRST TIME APPLICANTS AND TOURISM SERVING PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED IN THE EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC SURVEY.

WE ENCOURAGE INCLUSIVE INTERPRETIVE PLAN PROJECTS TO ENGAGE COMMUNITY AND TOURISTS THROUGH STORYTELLING AND CREATIVE COLLABORATIONS BETWEEN COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND HISTORIC SITES.

IS HIGHLY ENCOURAGED PROJECTS THAT USE INNOVATIVE AND INCLUSIVE METHODS TO ATTRACT NEW AND DIVERSE AUDIENCES AND TOURISTS ARE ALSO HIGHLY ENCOURAGED TO APPLY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AGAIN, WE OFFER CAPITAL PLANNING, EDUCATIONAL AND MARKETING GRANTS THAT ARE VALUED FROM 30,000 TO $250,000, DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT TYPE.

THERE IS NO MATCH REQUIRED FOR THIS GRANT.

UM, ALL SITES MUST HAVE A HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

AND OUR NEXT APPLICATION FOR GRANT FUNDING OPENS AT 10:00 AM ON AUGUST 8TH AND WILL BE OPEN UNTIL 5:00 PM ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.

NEXT SLIDE.

I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME PREVIOUSLY FUNDED PRESERVATION PROJECTS, UM, TO GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE OF WHAT THIS FUNDING COULD BE USED FOR.

UPTOWN SPORTS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT THAT IS NOW SERVING AS A NEW

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TOURISM ANCHOR IN AUSTIN.

A RESTORED 1893 COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN EAST AUSTIN THAT RECENTLY HAD A GRAND OPENING THIS YEAR, ITS LONG AND STORIED LIFE HAS SERVED THE COMMUNITY AS A BAKERY, A BUTCHER SHOP, A DRY GOOD SHOP, AND A NEIGHBORHOOD BAR.

THIS FORMERLY ABANDONED PROPERTY HAD LONG BEEN A TOPIC OF INTEREST AND INTRIGUE IN ITS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE REOPENING THE UPTOWN SPORTS BAR NOW SERVES AS A NEWLY RENOVATED NEIGHBORHOOD SPOT AND RESTAURANT CONCEPT.

THE DELICATE RENOVATION TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION ITS WOODEN PENANT AWNING, ITS FRONT DOOR CORNER ORIENTATION, AND ITS OVERALL 19TH CENTURY CHARM TO MARY REMNANTS OF BOTH THE PAST AND THE PRESENT.

NEXT SLIDE.

DOWNFIELD GRANDSTAND IS AN ICON OF EAST AUSTIN AND A LINK TO THE LEGACY OF THE AUSTIN BLACK SENATORS, ONE OF THE FIRST NEGRO LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAMS IN THE CITY.

THE DOWNFIELD GRANDSTANDS HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY RESTORED FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF NEW GENERATIONS OF BASEBALL FANS.

THE PRESENT SITE WAS USED AS SAMUEL HOUSTON COLLEGE'S BASEBALL STADIUM AND WAS THE HOME FIELD OF THE BLACK SENATORS, INCLUDING LOCAL SPORTS HERO AND NATIONAL BASEBALL HALL OF FAME AND DUCKY WILLIE WELLS, THE REHABILITATION OF THE GRANDSTAND.

A RECORDED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK WAS MANAGED THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND INCLUDED STRUCTURAL AND COSMETIC UPGRADES CAPPED BY A NEW CORRUGATED MIDDLE ROOF.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE CLARKSVILLE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

THE RESTORATION OF THE HASKELL HOUSE IS A TESTAMENT TO THE PRESERVATION AND COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS BY THE CLARKSVILLE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND SEVERAL CITY OF AUSTIN DEPARTMENTS.

TODAY, THE HOUSE STANDS IN ITS ORIGINAL SITE IN CLARKSVILLE, A HISTORIC FREEDOM COMMUNITY ESTABLISHED BY FORMERLY ENSLAVED PEOPLE IN 1871.

THE HOME IS CLAD IN UNPAINTED BOARD AND BATON SIDING AND FEATURES DOUBLE SEPARATED FRONT DOORS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

IN 2020, PEACE PARK CONSERVANCY, A PARD PARTNER BROKE GROUND ON THE RENOVATION OF KINGSBURY COMMONS TO REHABILITATE THE TUDOR CO COTTAGE.

AS A NEW COMMUNITY AND EVENT SPACE, THE BUILDING'S PRIMARY EASTERN FACADE WAS RESTORED.

USING THE TRADITIONAL TUDOR COTTAGE APPROACH, GLASSDOOR'S CUT INTO THE BUILDING'S NORTH FACADE, WHICH OPENS INTO AN INVITING TERRACE.

THIS PROJECT CREATED NEW LIFE TO THE COTTAGE, MAKING IT A WELCOMING PLACE OF GATHERING FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND TOURISTS IN ONE OF AUSTIN'S CENTRAL GREEN SPACES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND IN FISCAL YEAR 23, WE RECENTLY AWARDED, UM, A ROGERS, WASHINGTON HOLY CROSS HISTORIC DISTRICT TOUR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL EXEMPLIFIED INNOVATIVE AND INCLUSIVE METHODS TO ATTRACT NEW AUDIENCES AND TOURISTS, AND WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A CREATIVE PARTNERSHIP THAT ADVANCED A COMMUNITY IDEA.

IT ALSO HELPS TO SHARE AUSTIN'S HISTORY IN A FRESH AND COMPELLING WAY.

THIS IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN E FOUR YOUTH, A NONPROFIT AND ROGERS, WASHINGTON HOLY CROSS HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT WILL SERVE TO PRESERVE THE RAPIDLY VANISHING HISTORIES OF OUR BLACK COMMUNITY LEADERS IN AUSTIN, WHILE PROVIDING THE YOUTH OF FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN DISPLACED FROM THE DISTRICT WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO RECLAIM THOSE STORIES.

THE PROJECT WILL RESULT IN A SERIES OF MIXED REALITY, AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL TOURS OF 10 TO 12 LOCATIONS, AND WILL INCLUDE THE COLLECTION OF ORAL HISTORIES.

THE LOCATION-BASED MIXED REALITY STORYTELLING ENGINE WILL FEATURE CONTENT RESEARCHED BY STUDENTS PARTICIPATING IN E FOURTH YOUTH PROGRAMS. THE PROJECT WILL BE MARKETED THROUGH EVENTS IN ENGAGEMENT TOURS, ACTIVATIONS VIA SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST AND A C L SOCIAL MEDIA EARNED MEDIA AND PRESS COVERAGE.

AND ON EACH OF THESE SLIDES, I HAVE INCLUDED THE LINK FOR THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT PROGRAM.

I ALSO HAVE SOME FLYERS IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH AT THE, UM, DOOR LEADING INTO, UM, THIS, UM, MEETING SPACE AND AM OPEN TO SPEAK TO ANY POTENTIAL APPLICANT WHO HAS A PROJECT IDEA THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADVANCE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MS. ALVARADO.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALSO FOR THE DEVOTING TIME

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TO JOIN US FOR OUR RETREAT LAST WEEK.

AND YOU REALLY HELPED OPEN OUR EYES TO, UH, SOME WONDERFUL ASPECTS OF THIS PROGRAM AND HOW SUCCESSFUL IT'S BEEN OVER THE YEARS, HOW MUCH IT'S ACCOMPLISHED.

AND HOPEFULLY NOW WE'LL SHARE SOME OF THAT WITH AN AUDIENCE THAT CAN SEE NEW OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

MY PLEASURE.

DO YOU KNOW IF UPTOWN SPORTS CLUB IS OWNER OCCUPIED AS IN LIKE THE BUSINESS THAT IS OPERATING IT OWNS, THE BUILDING ITSELF OWNS? WELL, THE GRANT PROGRAM IS OPEN TO INDIVIDUALS WHO EITHER OWN OR LEASE.

OKAY.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE HAVE OWNER AUTHORIZATION, THAT IS THE ONLY REQUIREMENT OF THE GRANT PROGRAM, BUT THE OWNER DOESN'T HAVE TO OCCUPY THE BUILDING IN ORDER TO APPLY.

COOL.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S GO STRAIGHT TO OUR FIRST DISCUSSION CASE.

WE HAVE A, UH, OWNER INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AT 25 0 2 JAR AVENUE.

AND WE'LL START WITH A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.

UH, SO MS. CONTRERAS, I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE BRIEFING.

DO WE HAVE ANOTHER BRIEFING? FIVE 17.

OH, I'M TERRIBLY SORRY.

NUMBER

[3. 517 Bouldin Ave]

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS THE FIVE 17 BOLDEN AVENUE.

YOU CAN SEE I'M TRYING TO LIKE PRETEND IT DOESN'T EXIST, BUT YES, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UH, HAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU.

ITEM TWO, UM, IS A BRIEFING ON A DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A PROPERTY OWNED BY RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION TWO 11.0165 PROVIDES MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

AND IN 2019, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE AMENDED THAT AUTHORITY THROUGH HOUSE BILL 24 96 86 R IN ADDITION TO INTRODUCING A SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENT FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION OVER OWNER OBJECTION.

THE BILL PROVIDED THAT PROPERTY OWNED BY A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION MAY NOT BE DESIGNATED WITHOUT OWNER CONSENT.

PER THE MEMO IN YOUR BACKUP, UH, FROM 2021 TO COMPLY WITH CITY CODE AND STATE LAW, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE MUST ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE ALL APPLICATIONS FOR THE DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION OF A BUILDING OWNED BY A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION.

UM, THEREFORE, AT EACH MEETING, UH, WE WILL PROVIDE YOU ON THE COMMISSION WITH A BRIEFING REGARDING ANY SUCH, SUCH ACTION, UH, TAKEN SINCE THE PRIOR MEETING, UM, THE PROPERTY AT FIVE 17 BOLDEN AVENUE OWNED BY A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION, WAS APPROVED FOR DEMOLITION.

IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1944 FOR THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.

AND THE 2016 BOLDEN CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY LISTED THE ITEM AS A MEDIUM PRIORITY IN CONTRIBUTING TO A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UH, AND ONE QUICK QUESTION, UH, MS. CONTRERAS, THE OWNER WAS NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A DOCUMENTATION PACKET? NO.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THESE WHERE, UM, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS DETERMINED THAT SINCE WE CAN'T REVIEW BASICALLY, UM, WE ALSO, UNLIKE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE AREA, THAT AT THE VERY LEAST WE CAN SAY, HAVE A PERMANENT RECORD, UH, THAT IS ARCHIVED AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER BECAUSE THAT IS A REQUIREMENT AS WE ISSUE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR ONE OF THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES.

BUT IN THIS CASE, OTHER THAN THE PHOTOGRAPHS AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS ON OUR AGENDA, THERE'LL BE NO OTHER RECORD.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THOUGH THERE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS INCLUDED IN THE DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICATION BECAUSE THERE IS NO STAFF REPORT TO PUT ON THE H L C AGENDA.

UH, THE MATERIALS THAT WE HAVE REGARDING THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, ARE LIMITED.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BY COMMISSIONERS? I I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S, I DON'T WANNA SAY LOOPHOLES, CAVEATS TO THE BILL THAT IT'S LIKE, 'CAUSE THEY DO STILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND FROM THERE, IT, IT FEELS LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE TO COME TALK TO US .

AND IT IS NOT THAT LIKE WE'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO, UH, DESIGNATE THEIR PROPERTY HISTORIC, BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SITUATION COMES UP IN OTHER CONTEXTS AND, AND THE PEOPLE ARE STILL, I, I GUESS THERE'S A CLOCK THAT STARTS AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHOW UP, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DO AND WE GET THE CHANCE TO, TO GIVE IT, ITS ITS DAY IN FRONT OF THE DIOCESE, UM, SOMETIMES PERSUADE PEOPLE OF THE VALUE OF THEIR, HIS OF THEIR OLDER BUILDING, WHICH THEY MAY NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD WAS HISTORIC OR HAD OTHER MERIT.

YEAH.

SO I I I WONDER IF THERE'S, I SEE THAT WE'RE, WE LOOK AT THE BILL AS WRITTEN AND IT'S LIKE STARING AT THE SUN.

IF WE JUST LIKE LOOK A LITTLE BIT TO THE LEFT, WE'D BE LIKE, WELL, NO, NOTHING'S IN THE BILL SAYS WE CAN'T PUT THEM ON A CLOCK AND HAVE THEM COME TALK TO US, ASK THEM TO COME TALK TO US.

SO, UM, I BELIEVE THE MEMO IN YOUR BACKUP ADDRESSES SOME OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS.

OKAY.

UM, WHEN THIS BILL WAS PUT FORWARD IN 2019, WE, UH, WE TURNED IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO SEE, UM, HOW THESE DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICATIONS WOULD WORK WITH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, UM, TIMELINE AND PURVIEW.

UM, SO SOME

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OF THOSE QUESTIONS, I BELIEVE, UH, MAY BE ANSWERED, UM, IN THAT PRIOR MEMO.

COOL.

THANK YOU.

THERE'VE BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE THAT HAS BEEN PASSED, AND IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE SAY OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MIGHT WANNA REVISIT, AT LEAST IT'D BE A WORTH WORTHY DISCUSSION.

WAS THERE ANOTHER QUESTION OVER HERE? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

WE WERE TALKING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE RESTRICTIONS ON WHO CAN, WHO THIS APPLIES TO AS FAR AS A RELIGIOUS NONPROFIT, IF IT HAD TO BE A CHURCH OR NOT, OR IF THERE'S JUST ANY RELIGIOUS NONPROFIT ACCORDING TO TAX CODE, ANY 5 0 1 C THREE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T WORSHIP IN A BUILDING.

HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY CONFIRMATION FROM LEGAL ON THAT? UM, THAT IS ALSO ADDRESSED IN THE MEMO, IN THE BACKUP.

UM, AS FAR AS CLARIFICATION OF THE GROUPS, UM, I CAN ASK AGAIN, BUT, UH, THE, THE MEMO AND THE LANGUAGE ITSELF IS PRETTY BROAD.

YES.

AND I THINK INITIAL DISCUSSION FROM LEGAL WAS THAT IT ONLY APPLIED TO CHURCHES 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE BILL, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE BILL SAYS.

IT'S VERY BROAD.

AND SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT.

UM, I'LL ASK AGAIN.

OKAY.

UM, I DON'T HAVE THE BILL TEXT AT THE TOP OF MY MIND, BUT UH, THE MEMO DOES KIND OF GO THROUGH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT SAID, YOU KNOW, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS PER TAX CODE, THAT'S IT.

MM-HMM.

SO THAT IT SAID NOTHING ABOUT BEING A PLACE OF WORSHIP, HOUSE OF WORSHIP OR ENTITY.

UM, WHICH TO ME MEANS ANY, ANY NONPROFIT THAT CLAIMS TO BE RELIGIOUS CAN PURCHASE THESE PROPERTIES AND TEAR THEM DOWN.

AND, UH, YEAH.

JUST WANNA CONFIRM THAT.

OKAY.

JUST A QUICK COMMISSIONER.

LARES, QUICK FOLLOW UP TO, TO WIT'S QUESTION.

I, I DO THINK, UM, I WAS KIND OF JUST LOOKING AT OUR BACKUP PACKAGE HERE, AND I THINK WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE, THE ABILITY TO INVITE THEM.

THEY CAN DECLINE, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS EXTEND THE INVITATION.

CORRECT.

I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, COULD YOU, UH, SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT? I CAN'T IT, I'M SORRY.

WE CAN ALWAYS, IN FOLLOWING UP TO YOUR COMMENT, WE CAN ALWAYS EXTEND THE INVITATION FOR THEM TO APPEAR.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT IT, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS EXTEND THE INVITATION.

CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO.

I'LL ASK, UH, OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN ASK NICELY , THAT TAKES ME DOWN ANOTHER RABBIT HOLE THAT, I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S ADDRESSED IN THE MEMO, BUT THAT ARE THE NEIGHBORS NOTICED THAT THIS IS, UH, A POTENTIAL DEMOLITION AND IS A FEE CHARGED TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF DOING THE NOTIFICATIONS AND IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.

OR DO THEY GET AWAY WITH LIKE NONE OF THAT BURDEN THEY GET, THEY ARE RELIEVED OF ALL OF THAT BURDEN THAT ANY OTHER REGULAR CITIZEN WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ON WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO TEAR DOWN A BUILDING NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.

AT LEAST FOR THIS COMMISSION, WHICH IS WHAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, UM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, THEY'RE NOT NOTICED FOR A COMMISSION HEARING.

UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR DEMOLITION.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UH, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN, UH, CONFIRM WITH D S D AND GET BACK TO YOU ON.

UM, I DO KNOW THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY FEES FOR THE DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICATION ITSELF.

YEAH.

I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE WE, WE SHOULD BRING THEM TO THE, INVITE THEM TO THE COMMISSION AND THEREFORE NOTICE THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THEREFORE CHARGE THEM THE FEE.

AND WELL, I THINK YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.

THE FACT THAT THAT IN UNDER ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE, AT THE VERY LEAST, NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE THE BENEFIT OF A NOTIFICATION.

UM, THAT THAT IS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH, UM, SINCE IT IS STILL A RELATIVELY NEW LAW.

AND AGAIN, I THINK WE, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE, WE'RE STILL CHEWING ON IT.

UH, I JUST WANNA ADD, I GUESS IN MY HEAD, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED WE DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION OR PHOTOS, RIGHT? UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BRING THEM FOR THE MONEY THING.

THAT COULD, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

BUT I THINK WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT IS TRYING TO GET DOCUMENTATION AND SOMEHOW KNOWING THAT THE STATE HAS TIED OUR HANDS, HOW DO WE AS A CITY REACT TO THAT AND SAYING, OKAY, DO WE NEED SOME KIND OF SURVEY OF WHAT THESE CURRENT RELIGIOUS PROPERTIES ARE? HOW DO WE DO THAT? HOW DO WE WORK WITH MAYBE A VOLUNTEERS OR AN ORGANIZATION KNOWING THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE AND THIS IS WHAT'S ENDANGERED? UM, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THIS MAY NOT BE THE, THE CATHEDRAL THAT EVERYBODY IS GONNA STOP AND, AND PICK IT FOR, BUT THIS IS VERY TRADITIONAL TO THE CHURCH OF CHRIST'S FAITH, FAITH.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT HOUSES OF WORSHIP, THEY ALL LOOK DIFFERENT AND THEY HAVE THEIR REASONING, RIGHT? UM, SO NEXT MONTH IT COULD BE A CATHEDRAL, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OTHER CITY, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTRY OR THE STATE THAT IS GONNA BE DEMOLISHED BECAUSE OF THESE RULES.

BUT IF WE CAN GET AHEAD OF THAT, HAVE A SURVEY, REACH OUT TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WANNA DO THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST A LONG

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THOUGHT, RIGHT? YEAH.

OF HOW WE DOCUMENT THEM IS ALL, WELL, WE THINK OF IT, THINK OF IT AS THE PUBLIC TRUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY 50 OR 60 YEARS FROM NOW, SOMEONE HAS A BRILLIANT WAY OF CREATING A VIRTUAL REALITY WHERE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COULD BE REPRODUCED FROM THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE EXCEPT FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, EVERY FIFTH OR SIXTH BLOCK THERE ARE THESE HOLES BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS THAT I USED TO CALL CHURCHES THAT AREN'T HERE ANYMORE.

NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, BUT WE KIND OF VAGUE RECORDS OF THEM COMPARED TO WHAT ARE, WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE AS A RESOURCE FROM THE REST OF THE HISTORY.

SO I, I, AGAIN, I THINK IT, THIS IS ONE OF THESE WHERE A LOT OF THINGS GOT THROWN OUT ON THE TABLE REAL QUICKLY AND MAYBE SOME OF THE IMPLICATIONS NOW, UH, BY RAISING THEM, UH, WOULD ALLOW THIS TO BE EITHER THOUGHT THROUGH IN A DIFFERENT WAY OR PERHAPS IMPLEMENTED IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING.

OH, I'M SORRY.

UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, NOT NECESSARILY THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

BUT A QUESTION FOR YOU, UH, CHAIRMAN, IS WE HAVE THESE RECURRING ITEMS THAT THE RESPONSES, WELL, WE'LL ASK LEGAL.

I WONDER IF WE CAN CREATE A PLACEHOLDER FOR THESE ITEMS AND JUST HAVE A EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH LEGAL ONE NIGHT TO LIKE GO THROUGH THE LIST OF THESE THINGS WE'VE PUT ON THE TABLE THAT, THAT HAS IN THE PAST BEEN A FUNCTION, A FUNCTION OF THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.

PERFECT.

YEAH.

AND, AND, AND OPERATION BACK WHEN IT'S BEEN APPROPRIATE TO THE, THE LARGER COMMITTEE ON SOME SPECIFIC ITEMS. SO I THINK THAT WE CAN FOLLOW THAT PATTERN.

I THINK IN THIS CASE IT PROBABLY WILL WARRANT IT.

ALRIGHT, MS. CONTRERAS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, DELIVERING THE BRIEFING.

AND THAT BRINGS US

[4. C14H-2023-0079 – 2502 Jarratt Ave. – Discussion Griffin House]

NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS I WAS TRYING TO GET US TO THE 25 0 2 JAR AVENUE.

UH, THIS IS A OWNER INITIATED, UH, APPLICATION AND THE GRIFFIN HOUSE, UH, PRESENTATION.

UH, MS. CONTRERAS, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CASE C 14 H 20 23 0 0 79 IS AN APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING INITIATED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 25 0 2 JARRETT AVENUE.

UH, THIS BUILDING WAS DETERMINED ELIGIBLE AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK BACK IN 2016, UH, PER ARCHIVE CORRESPONDENCE WITH CITY HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER STEVE SADOWSKI.

SO STAFF CAN RECOMMEND THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE TO SF THREE H M P.

THE APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING DESCRIBES THE BUILDING'S ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE AS FOLLOWS.

THE HOUSE AT 25 0 2 JARRETT AVENUE STANDS AS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THE COLONIAL REVIVAL STYLE IN FORM AND DESIGN FROM THE 1930S.

IN THE THIRTIES AND THROUGHOUT THE FORTIES, A SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF THE STYLE GREW DOMINANT, ASYMMETRICAL FACADES BECAME MORE COMMON, AND COLONIAL REVIVAL HOUSES IN GENERAL WERE CHARACTERISTICALLY REFRAMED IN ORNAMENTATION.

AND SIMPLER AND OUTLINE CHANGES IN FLUCTUATIONS IN THE ECONOMY CAUSED BY THE GREAT DEPRESSION IN THE LEAD UP TO WORLD WAR II CONTRIBUTED TO THESE CHANGES AS CONSTRUCTION BECAME MORE AUSTERE.

THIS IS EVIDENT IN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALITY WAS ACHIEVED THROUGH SUBTLE STYLISTIC DETAILING, SUCH AS WINDOW GROUPING AND PORCH DESIGN, RATHER THAN ELABORATE APPLIED ORNAMENTATION.

THE RESTRAINT COLONIAL REVIVAL STYLE OF 25 0 2 JARED AVENUE IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THIS TREND REFLECTING THIS PERIOD OF TIME IN THE EVOLUTION OF THE STYLE.

THE APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING ALSO IDENTIFIES THE HOUSE'S ASSOCIATION WITH COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TRENDS OF THE 1930S, AS WELL AS ITS ASSOCIATION WITH JUDGE MEAD F AND DOROTHY GRIFFIN.

IT DESCRIBES THE GRIFFIN'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO TEXAS AS FOLLOWS, MEAD GRIFFIN WAS A SIGNIFICANT FIGURE IN THE TEXAS JUDICIAL LANDSCAPE IN THE MID 20TH CENTURY, SERVING ON BOTH THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT AND THE COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS.

GRIFFIN WROTE THE COURT'S OPINION FOR OVER 200 CASES, AND DURING HIS LAST 10 YEARS ON THE SUPREME COURT, HE SERVED AS A SENIOR JUDGE PRESIDING OVER THE COURT DURING THE ABSENCE OF THE CHIEF JUSTICE.

AFTER RETIRING FROM THE SUPREME COURT, GRIFFIN WAS APPOINTED TO THE TEXAS COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS, WHERE HE SERVED A YEAR BEFORE SERVING AS THE TEXAS ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL UNTIL 1971.

HE WAS INFLUENTIAL IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SUPREME COURT BUILDING IN AUSTIN IN 1959, AS WELL AS THE OTHER STATE BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTED IN THE 1950S AND SIXTIES.

OVER HIS LONG TENURE AT, AT TEXAS'S HIGHEST JUDICIAL LEVEL, GRIFFIN NOT ONLY IN INFLUENCED CONSIDERABLE LEGISLATION, BUT ALSO FREQUENTLY WORKED WITH LAW SCHOOLS AROUND THE STATE AND GAVE MANY TALKS TO GRADUATES, COMMUNITY GROUPS, VETERANS AND ACTIVE MILITARY.

HE ADDRESSED THE RACIAL STRIFE OF THE PERIOD IN HIS SPEECHES, INCLUDING COMMENCEMENT ADDRESSES FOR HOUSTON TILTS IN COLLEGE IN 1958 AND ODESSA COLLEGE IN 1960.

BORN IN AUSTIN, DOROTHY GRIFFIN RECEIVED DEGREES FROM BOTH NORTHWESTERN AND NEW YORK UNIVERSITY, A SIGNIFICANT FIGURE IN THE CHILD WELFARE MOVEMENT.

GRIFFIN WAS ACTIVE IN THE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, SAVED THE CHILDREN BY 1947.

SHE WAS THE STATE DIRECTOR OF THE ORGANIZATION AND RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS RELOCATION FROM DALLAS TO AUSTIN.

THIS BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1938 AND THE APPLICATION

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OUTLINES THE BUILDING'S ALTERATIONS AS FOLLOWS, DESPITE SEVERAL ALTERATIONS OVER THE YEARS.

THE HOUSE CONTINUES TO CONVEY THE COLONIAL REVIVAL STYLE OF THE 1930S BUILT DURING THE HISTORIC PERIOD.

THE 1973 EDITION IS SET BACK FROM THE PLANE OF THE FRONT FACADE.

IT IS HISTORIC IN AGE AND HAS THUS ACHIEVED SIGNIFICANCE.

A 19 75 2 STORY REAR ADDITION TO THE ADDITIONAL PORTION OF, TO THE ORIGINAL PORTION OF THE HOUSE ADDED 190 SQUARE FEET.

AND IN 2016, THE CURRENT OWNERS ADDED A REAR ONE STORY EDITION TO THE 1973 EDITION, UH, AS WELL AS THE TWO STORY GARAGE APARTMENT IN THE SAME LOCATION AS THE DEMOLISHED ORIGINAL GARAGE.

OTHER ALTERATIONS INCLUDE SIDING AND WINDOW REPLACEMENT, RAILING REMOVAL, CHIMNEY PAINTING, AND FRONT DOOR REPLACEMENT.

UH, THE PROPERTY CONTRIBUTES TO THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THANK YOU.

AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

WELL, UM, IF WE'RE FINISHED ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, UH, THEN WE CAN CALL UP THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PRESENTATION, BUT THEY'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, I'M CHRISTINA COOPER SCHMIDT AND I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION, UM, BUT I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

WELL, FIRST, MS. COOPERTON, UH, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR INITIATING THIS.

I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE BACKGROUND ON THE HOUSE AND A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTATION.

SO IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY DELIGHTFUL TO READ THROUGH YOUR PACKET.

UM, THE HOUSE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER BASED ON ITS MERITS IN COMPARISON TO OTHERS THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM.

AND, UH, I I AM, I'M, I'M SURE MY COMMISSIONERS ARE GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS OF YOU, BUT, UM, WERE YOU INVOLVED AT ALL IN THE RENOVATIONS OF ANY OF THE PAST RENOVATIONS? NO, I'M NOT.

I WAS NOT.

I'M JUST AN ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN, SO I JUST DID THE RESEARCH ON IT, BUT I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE, THE WORK ON THE HOUSE AT ALL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSION MEMBERS, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS AS YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE BACKUP MATERIAL? IS THIS, IS THIS PUBLIC HEARING? IS THIS NOW WHAT WE DISCUSSED OR, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE ARE, ARE ASKING QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

AND THEN, UH, IF, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THEN WE CAN ASK FOR ANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST BEFORE WE CAN TAKE A MOTION.

GOTCHA.

NO QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE OWNER, OF THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE? UM, I, I, I DO, I CAN JUST TELL YOU MY CONCERN, UH, HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, UH, NEW SIGHTING ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY.

UH, AND BUT YOU WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THAT, SO YOU CAN'T RIGHT.

YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, LOOKS LIKE THAT IS ALL WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED.

COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.

SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER, UH, MCR, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY.

THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF SINCE THIS IS OWNER INITIATED.

UM, WOULD OUR, WOULD OUR NEXT MOTION MEET BE TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING OR? YES.

OKAY.

UM, WELL, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO, I THINK IT'S REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING ON THE BASIS OF OUR ARCHITECTURE.

HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS.

ACTUALLY, YOUR MOTION DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO REOPEN.

WE ONLY WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT IF WE WERE POSTPONING IT.

BUT TAKING AN ACTION IS, THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO REOPEN.

I JUST PRINTED THE, THE STAND THE MOTIONS.

'CAUSE I THOUGHT WE GOT IN TROUBLE FOR NOT DOING, DO WE HAVE TO REOPEN IN ORDER TO HAVE A MOTION TO NO ZONE HISTORIC RIGHT.

FOR RECOMMENDATION.

YOU MAY HAVE TO REOPEN IT FOR IT TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT.

AH, TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE REOPEN.

SO YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I'M GLAD SOMEBODY WAS LISTENING TO THE RETREAT.

.

.

HERE YOU GO.

I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS MARY SAID THAT WE NEEDED TO WORK ON, SO AH, OKAY.

WELL, WE WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING IT RIGHT, SO WE MAY AS WELL GET IT RIGHT.

FOR SURE.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER RUBIO, PLEASE RESTATE YOUR MOTION.

YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME REPEAT THAT ? YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING ON THE BASIS OF ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS.

OKAY.

UH, SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? I SECOND A SECOND.

FROM COMMISSIONER, UM, CASTILLO.

YES.

UM, AT

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THIS POINT, WOULD THE MAKER OF THE MOTION WANT TO DISCUSS? SURE.

UM, WELL, VERY IN DEPTH, UH, RESEARCH.

SO I I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I WAS TRYING, I WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE, UH, MODIFICATIONS IN THE SEVENTIES.

THIS PROPERTY CONTRIBUTES TO THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT.

UM, I WAS TRYING TO GET THE DATES OF THAT NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT IT WAS MAYBE AROUND 70 OR AFTER 73.

UH, LOOKS LIKE THIS NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT WAS 2003.

SO IN MY OPINION, IF IT'S, IT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER, THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE 1973, UH, ADDITIONS.

I SEE NO, IS NO PROBLEM WHY WE SHOULD HAVE THAT MUCH OF A, A ISSUE AGAINST IT ON A LOCAL DESIGNATION LEVEL.

SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

UH, OKAY.

AND, AND COMMISSIONER CASTILLO, YOU'RE SECOND.

SORRY.

UH, NO, AGAIN, I JUST TO ECHO, UM, IT, I JUST APPRECIATE ALL THE, THE, UM, DETAIL IN FOLLOWING UP WITH, WITH EVERYTHING, SO, OKAY.

YEAH.

AND LET ME JUST ADDRESS MY CONCERN.

UH, I I, I THINK THAT THERE ARE SO MANY ASPECTS TO THIS, PARTICULARLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE ASSOCIATION THAT MAKE IT A STRONG CANDIDATE.

THEY DO HAVE NEW SIDING AND THEY DO HAVE NEW WINDOWS.

AND I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE DENIED THAT REQUEST FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN OUR PROGRAM.

AND SO THIS IS A HOUSE THAT'S ALREADY HAD HARDY SIDING PUT ON IT, REPLACING WOOD SIDING.

AND THESE ARE NOT HISTORIC WINDOWS.

I JUST WONDER IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER VERY GOOD EXAMPLES OF THIS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT ARE IN MORE PRISTINE SHAPE.

UH, THIS IS SORT OF A NEW TIMEFRAME FOR THIS.

UH, I THINK WE'D PROBABLY HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION IF IT WAS ANOTHER 20 OR 30 YEARS FROM NOW.

BUT IF I'M LOOKING AT HOUSES OF THIS ERA AND PLACE IT ARCHITECTURALLY, THIS IS NOT TO DO WITH THE ASSOCIATION, BUT PLACE IT ARCHITECTURALLY COMPARED TO OTHERS.

I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT WE'RE AT THAT STAGE YET WHERE I CAN SUPPORT IT.

BUT I, I, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE AS A COMMISSION.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, I, I THINK WITH THAT IDEA, WITH THAT MINDSET IN THE BACK, IN THE BACK OF OUR HEADS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD NOT REQUIRE ANY CORRECTION BECAUSE IT'S NATIONAL REGISTER.

BUT BY DESIGNATING THIS, PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE WITH THE OWNER, WE COULD WORK TO THAT RIGHT.

WORK TO REPAIRING THESE THINGS, UM, TO ONE, IT'S ALREADY CONTRIBUTING.

IT'S ALREADY CONTRIBUTING.

IT'S, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THEIR HARDY SIDING OFF AND PUT ON WOOD.

NO, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY ABILITY TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

RIGHT.

AND IT CAN BE DEMOED TOMORROW, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.

SO IT'S LOCAL DESIGNATION IS, IS A WAY FOR US TO KIND OF CORRECT THOSE SINS OF THE PAST, IN MY OPINION.

UH, COMMISSIONER ROCHE, YOU HAD A QUESTION? UH, I WAS INTERESTED WHY, WHAT THE BASIS OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS WITH RESPECT TO ARCHITECTURE.

MS. CONTRERAS, I COMMISSIONER THE, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ORIGINALLY, UM, GOING OFF OF, UM, FORMER PRESERVATION OFFICER STEVE SADOWSKI RECOMMENDATION, UM, BASICALLY STATED THAT BECAUSE THE CHANGES WERE DONE IN KIND, IT DID NOT, UH, AFFECT THE BUILDING'S INTEGRITY, UM, AS CHANGE OF OPENING OR, UM, SOMETHING FURTHER REFIELD AND MATERIALITY WISE, LIKE ALUMINUM OR VINYL SIDING.

THANK YOU.

AND IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION IS, IS IT HARDY SIDING OR IS IT WOOD SIDING? DO WE KNOW? I BELIEVE WHAT'S ON THERE NOW IS HARDY SIDING.

UM, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM.

OKAY.

UH, DOES, CAN THE APPLICANT CONFIRM FOR US THAT OKAY, WE'RE HEARING YES.

THAT THAT IS A HARDY SIGHTING RIGHT NOW? I DO THINK THAT MAKES IT EXTREMELY CHALLENGING FOR US TO, GIVEN OUR PURVIEW OR FACADE AND OUR PAST OPINIONS ON SUCH.

AND, AND AGAIN, I I, IT, I'M TORN BECAUSE WERE THIS TO HAVE OTHER CHARACTERISTICS THAT WOULD MAKE IT RISE TO AN EXCEPTIONAL LEVEL.

BUT IT, IT, IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND IT'S A PARTICULAR ERA THAT IS JUST ENTERING THE PROGRAM.

AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF GOOD EXAMPLES OF, SO THAT'S,

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THAT'S WHERE I'M, I'M TORN, BUT I THINK IT IS AN ISSUE.

COMMISSIONER COOK? UH, I, I AGREE.

I'M ALSO TORN, I'M LOOKING AT THE PHOTOS AND, AND IT, IT DOES SEEM TO CONVEY ITS SIGNIFICANCE IN THE ORIGINAL DETAILING.

THE, THE REPLACEMENTS DO SEEM VERY, UH, SENSITIVE.

UH, BUT I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION BASED ON MY ONGOING CONCERN ABOUT RELIABILITY IN THIS PROCESS AND THE POST REPLACEMENT, UH, STATEMENT THAT'S ON RECORD, UH, BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER SUGGESTING THAT IT, IT WOULD QUALIFY AS A LANDMARK.

UH, SO I, I DON'T LIKE, UM, EVEN THOUGH I MAY NOT AGREE WITH THAT 100%, I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL AGREE WITH THAT 75%.

AND, UH, IT'S ENOUGH FOR ME TO SUPPORT, UH, RELIABILITY IN, IN WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT'S BEING COMMUNICATED FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.

UH, I THINK IT'S AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE AND, AND I DON'T FEEL A HUNDRED PERCENT ON IT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S RELIABILITY THAT TIPS IT IN FAVOR FOR ME.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER CONVERSATION OR DISCUSSION? ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO A, TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING ON THIS HOUSE.

IT'S BEEN SECONDED.

AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.

OH WAIT, I'M, I'M NOT RAISING MY HAND, .

OKAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE EVERYBODY PRESENT, UH, EXCEPT THOSE OPPOSED AND I WILL BE OPPOSED.

UH, SO, UH, LET THE RECORD STATE THAT, UM, WE HAVE THAT WOULD BE NINE, FOUR AND ONE AGAINST.

SO THE MOTION PASSES AND WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS A ZONING CHANGE AND SO THIS STILL WILL GO TO, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE PRESENTED FOR THEIR APPROVAL, UH, IN THIS CASE WITH OWNER SUPPORT.

THEY DON'T NEED TO HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY, AND THEN IT WILL ALSO GO TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL ZONING.

UH, SO WE HOPE WE CAN WELCOME THIS PROPERTY INTO THE, UH, THE LANDMARK, UH, FAMILY.

UH, AND IF, IF I MAY ENCOURAGE STAFF TO IN FUTURE, UM, KIND OF TOE THE LINE IN MATERIALS IN FUTURE COMMUNICATION SO THAT WE'RE NOT KIND OF PUT IN THIS BIND IN THE FUTURE AS, AS IN YOU, THIS ISN'T AN OPEN MEETING FOR EVERYBODY TO GO OUT AND GET HARDY SIDING ON THEIR HISTORIC HOUSE, .

OKAY.

LET THAT BE, LET THAT BE STATED.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S MOVE TO

[Items 5 & 6]

ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

THIS IS, UH, POSTED FOR DISCUSSION, UH, 6 0 6 EAST THIRD STREET.

AND BECAUSE IT'S, UH, CONNECTED TO ITEM NUMBER 6 6 0 8 EAST THIRD STREET, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TAKE BOTH CASES TOGETHER.

I THINK, I THINK LAST TIME WE HEARD THEM SEPARATE, BUT THEN TABLE DISCUSSION ON THE FIRST ONE.

IS THAT APPROPRIATE THIS TIME OR WOULD, WOULD WE TAKE THEM TOGETHER THIS TIME? UM, THERE WOULD BE LESS MOTIONS IF WE TOOK THEM TOGETHER.

YEAH, I THINK THAT NOW SINCE THEY ARE IN THE SAME SECTION OF THE AGENDA, IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE THIS TIME TO TAKE THEM TOGETHER THAN IT WOULD'VE BEEN LAST TIME.

THEN I MOVED TO TAKE THE AGENDA ITEMS TOGETHER.

SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, FEATHERSTON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

SO MS. CONTRERAS, WOULD YOU PLEASE BEGIN YOUR PRESENTATION ON BOTH ITEMS? NUMBER FIVE AND NUMBER SIX.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, AS WE HEARD THESE PRESENTATIONS, UH, SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS, I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.

UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, IS A HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION INITIATED APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING AT 6 0 6 EAST THIRD STREET.

UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, IS THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST MONTH, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE BUILDING SUFFICIENTLY MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION.

IF SO, RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING.

UM, AND SHOULD THE COMMISSION CHOOSE TO RELEASE THE RELOCATION PERMIT IF THE BUILDING DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA, REQUIRE COMPLETION OF AN ARCHEOLOGICAL INVESTIGATION THAT MEETS STATE STANDARDS PER THE 2016 COMMISSION MOTION, AS WELL AS COMPLETION OF A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE WITH MEASURE DRAWINGS.

UM, THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED OVER THE YEARS FOR THIS BUILDING ARE ARCHITECTURE AND COMMUNITY VALUE.

UM, THIS BUILDING IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A VERNACULAR DWELLING WITH SECOND EMPIRE INFLUENCES.

AND WHILE THE PROPERTY DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE SPECIFIC HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, IT PROVIDES INSIGHT INTO THE CHANGING PATTERNS OF AUSTIN'S HOUSING HISTORY.

AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE STYLE TYPE, LOCATION, AND CONDITIONS OF LOWER TO MIDDLE INCOME AUSTINITES DURING THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY, UH, THE BUILDING HAS RELATIVELY HIGH INTEGRITY AS IT'S BEEN RESTORED OVER THE

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YEARS, AND MOST EXISTING ALTERATIONS APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED DURING THE HISTORIC PERIOD.

ITEM NUMBER SIX, AGAIN, IS A HISTORIC LANDMARK MISSION INITIATED APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING AT 6 0 8 EAST THIRD STREET.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THE SAME, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE BUILDING SUFFICIENTLY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION.

IF SO, RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING AND IF NOT, UH, REQUIRE COMPLETION OF AN ARCHEOLOGICAL INVESTIGATION PER THE 2016 MOTION AND A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

THIS BUILDING ALSO QUALIFIES UNDER ARCHITECTURE AND COMMUNITY VALUE, UM, AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A HALL AND PARLOR HOUSE IN THE NATIONAL FOLK STYLE.

UM, AND AGAIN, WHILE THE PROPERTY DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE SPECIFIC HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, IT PROVIDES INSIGHT INTO THE CHANGING PATTERNS OF AUSTIN'S HOUSING HISTORY.

UM, THIS BUILDING ALSO HAS RELATIVELY HIGH INTEGRITY AT IS AS IT HAS BEEN RESTORED OVER THE YEARS, AND MOST OF THE EXISTING ALTERATIONS APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED DURING THE HISTORIC PERIOD.

UH, THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, YOU'LL RECALL, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ON, UH, MORE, MOST RECENTLY ON OUR AGENDA AS APPLICATIONS FOR RELOCATION.

UH, THOSE BASICALLY GOT SET ASIDE AND NOW THEY'RE POSTED FOR A HISTORIC ZONING.

SO WHEN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS RECOGNIZE THESE WOULD MOST LIKELY BE THE APPLICANTS WHO ARE ASKING TO MOVE THESE HOUSES.

AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND CAN WE HEAR FROM, FROM THE APPLICANTS, FROM THE ORIGINAL APPLICANTS? IF THEY'RE HERE, THEY CAN COME TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE WARREN WELLBORN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YES.

THE THE HOUSES ARE, ARE, UH, YOU READ, GO AHEAD AND REINTRODUCE YOURSELF.

I, I'M WARREN WELLBORN, I'M STRUCTURED IN THAT SOLUTION.

I HAD 33 YEARS HOUSE HOUSES TO BE MOVED, IS WHAT I DO.

AND SO WHAT I WANNA DO IS I, WE NEVER SET, WE NEVER TELL OUR STUFF OWN HOUSE MOVING.

SO I WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THAT WITH YOU.

SO THERE'S TWO HOUSES.

ONE IS SMALL COTTAGE.

THE COTTAGE BECOMES THE LONGEST LOAD.

IT'S TWO HOUSES BECOME FOUR LOADS AND THEY'RE 60 FEET LONG.

IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MOVE THE HOUSES ON THESE LOTS WITH THE COTTAGE GONE COMPLETELY, STILL PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE EXCEPT IN CONSTANT MOTION.

SO THAT MEANS BLOCKING THIRD STREET, THREE APDS, THE, UH, ROLLMAN TO STOP TO, TO SHUT DOWN.

THIRD, THE POLICE, THE SITE PLAN, UH, EXEMPTION THE RELOCATION.

AND ON THE OTHER END ANOTHER SHERIFF TO PICK US UP THE NEXT DAY.

SO THERE'S FOUR LOADS.

SO SOMETHING HAS TO MOVE OVER.

THE SECOND LOAD IS GONNA BE THE TOP HALF.

AND I GAVE YOU AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE RED LINE AROUND THE TOP.

THE TOP WILL BE SUSPENDED IN THE AIR.

SO THE OTHER TWO PARTS HAVE TO DISPLACE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SO THAT THAT TOP CAN COME STRAIGHT DOWN ON TWO 12 INCH BEAMS. SO THE WAY THAT IT HAS TO BE CONSTANTLY MOVED AROUND AND THEN COME OUT.

SO, SO IT'S A LOT OF COORDINATION.

SO NEITHER 23 DAYS IN THE AGGREGATE IS WHAT IT COMES OUT TO WITH NO SPARE.

AND I HOPE IT ROLLS OVER.

I TRIED TO GIVE YOU A CALENDAR OF HOW MOVING WORKS.

THERE'S NO MOVING ON FRIDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHTS.

THE GUYS AREN'T GONNA WORK ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AND TAG ON AT LEAST ONE DAY TO EACH END OF A HOLIDAY.

AND SO THESE 95 DAYS, THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR COME DOWN TO 55 POSSIBLE WORK DAYS.

BUT YOU CAN FIGURE ABOUT NINE HOUSES WILL MOVE IN THERE.

SO YOU NEED ABOUT, THERE'LL BE ABOUT NINE OF THE POOL NIGHTS.

AND SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, KAYLIN OR THE PRESERVATION OFFICER SAYING, YOU KNOW, I DOESN'T WANNA DO ANYTHING TO LET THESE BE EXPOSED TO DEMOLITION.

AND WHAT I REALIZED IS DOING THE, MY YEAR IN EARLY IS YES, THEY'RE EXPOSED TO DEMOLITION, BUT THE, BUT, BUT IT'S ACCELERATING, ACCELERATING FROM THE FUTURE TO, TO BACK TO HERE, SPEEDING UP THE EXPOSURE.

OKAY.

AND THE EXPOSURE.

IF THESE GOT ROLLED INTO 24, THEN YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OPEN TO DEMOLITION.

I'VE REACHED OUT AND HAD AN IN-OFFICE WITH DISTRICT ONE WITH MADISON AND PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH DISTRICT NINE WITH ZOE AND THEN PLEASE TRY TO GET WORD TO THE PLANNING.

AND I HOPE STAFF WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING TO LET, TO EXPOSE THESE TO DEMOLITION.

AND I WANT TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE ABOUT HOUSE MOVING.

'CAUSE YOU HEAR RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION.

I PUT THAT IN THERE.

I HAD TO STRUGGLE REALLY HARD TO GET THAT PUT INTO THIS ANNOUNCEMENT.

AND I DID IT NOT BEFORE THOUGH.

I BUILT THE POSITIVE BID MARKET IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, WHICH DIFFERENTIATES FROM ANY OTHER TOWN.

AND SO I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU HEAR RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, THERE'S 1,450 PLUMBERS IN AUSTIN, TEXAS AND THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION HOUSE MOVERS IN CANADA AND THE US THERE'S 250 A FRACTION OF THOSE ARE HOUSE MOVERS AND THOSE ARE ALSO OVERLAY INTO THE 60 OR SO THAT ARE IN THE, THERE'S 450 PLUMBERS, THERE'S

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TWO HOUSE MOVERS CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.

THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE HOUSE MOVER AND ONLY ONE HOUSE MOVER AND I ARE GONNA TOUCH THIS HOUSE AND TO DO A SUSPENSION MOVE IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, ONCE YOU OPEN UP THE HOUSE AND SPLIT 'EM IN HALF, THEY CAN'T STAY.

SO I NEED 10 DAYS OF THE 23 DAYS HAVE TO BE SEQUENTIAL.

THEY'RE EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SPEND THE NIGHT WITH THE ENTIRE HALF OPEN AND THE TOP.

SO THOSE 10 DAYS HAVE TO GO.

SO OUT OF ALL THESE DAYS, I KNOW HALF OF SEPTEMBER I HAVE HOUSE TWO HOUSES MOVED, SO WE CAN TAKE THAT 20 DAYS DOWN TO ABOUT 10.

THE MOVER HAS HOUSE SCHEDULED.

HOUSE MOVES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, I'M NOT PRIVY TO 'EM, YOU KNOW, BUT I KNOW KIND OF ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE.

VERY FEW HOUSES WILL MOVE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS WHEN YOU HEAR RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, I HAVE ALL THAT CASE DATA AND THEY GO TO THE DUMP AND JUST KNOW THAT, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT THAT'S HOW THEY GO BECAUSE IT'S NOT A MATHEMATICAL PHYSICAL POSSIBILITY THAT THEY BE MOVED.

AND SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT HOW THAT, THAT HOW MANY HOUSE MOVERS THERE ARE HERE AND HOW MANY WILL GET MOVED.

AND IF YOU MULTIPLIED IT, MANY TIMES THERE ARE FAR, FAR MULTIPLE, AT LEAST SIX TIMES MORE PLUMBERS IN AUSTIN, THERE ARE HOUSE MOVERS ON THE PLANET EARTH.

AND SO IN CASE ANYBODY THOUGHT YOU JUST GOT IN THE PHONE BOOK AND LOOKED UP A HOUSE MOVER, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

AND SO THE TIME IS CHOKING AND IT'S COMING TO HERE.

WHAT HE KNOWS IS, IS ABOUT THE LEGISLATION.

AND I WOULDN'T, AND MY FOCUS IS NOT ON THE SUPER MAJORITY, BUT IT IS ON THE IMPACTS WHEN THEY CHANGE THOSE WORDS TO IMPACT STUDY A MATERIAL FACT AND TO DO AN IMPACT STUDY FOR A GIANT BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I FEEL, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A MINEFIELD AND I DON'T LIKE IT.

AND I SIT ON YOUR SIDE OF THE BENCH AND I'VE NEVER DEMOLISHED A HOUSE.

AND SO WHAT I, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TO YOU IS, IS THE TIME IS CHOKING IN, AND IT COULD BE NEXT WEEK THAT IT'S, THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT INTO THE, INTO THIS YEAR'S MOVE.

YOU SEE, IT'S NOT WHEN THEY MOVE, IT'S THAT IT'S INSIDE THE SCHEDULE NOW, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE SCHEDULE.

SO IT HAS TO BE INSIDE THE SCHEDULE WITH HIS ARE MOVING AROUND.

AND I HAVE TWO SO FAR AND I'M NOT GONNA CROWD THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS MY DROP DEAD DATE.

SO I'M GONNA SHOOT FOR OCTOBER ON TWO.

HE HAS HIS, THERE'S, IT'S LIMITED.

SO I'M, I'M JUST CRYING OUT THAT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE CAN PUT IT TOGETHER TO COORDINATE WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO MOVE THE HOUSES AND IT'S 23 DAYS.

MR. THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS, SIR? OKAY.

NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON EITHER 6 0 6 EAST THIRD STREET OR 6 0 8 EAST THIRD STREET? AND PLEASE COME TO THE MIC AND REINTRODUCE YOURSELF.

YES, GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE BACK WITH YOU.

MY NAME IS HERVEY FRANKS AND I'M A MASTER GARDENER AND I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AND I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE.

IT IS A HOUSE THAT I HAVE LOVED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND I WORK IN DILIGENTLY TO HAVE THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THIS HOME.

I AM MOVING THIS HOME JUST SLIGHTLY OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN, 30 MINUTES OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN TO A HISTORIC, UH, AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A HISTORIC FREEMAN COLONY SCHOOL THERE.

WE HAVE A HISTORIC CHURCH THAT IS ALSO A COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE AREA.

I'M BEING UMBRELLAED BY THE ST.

JOHN'S, UH, COLONY CENTER TO DO GARDENING PROGRAMS FOR KIDS AND ADULTS.

UH, I DO THAT HERE IN AUSTIN.

I TEACH KIDS AND ADULTS OF ALL RACES AND ALL SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS.

IT IS SO IMPORTANT, UM, FOOD SUSTAINABILITY.

AND THIS WILL BE MY TEACHING FACILITY AND MY HOME ON MY HISTORIC FARM.

IT WILL BE CALLED CHATEAU ROUGE AT RENAISSANCE RANCH.

AND I ASKED YOU TO HELP.

UH, WE AS AFRICAN AMERICANS HAVE SYSTEMATICALLY GOTTEN MOVED OUT OF AUSTIN.

UH, WE ARE A HISTORIC COMMUNITY HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE BUSINESSES.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS BUILDING IN AUSTIN AS MY BUSINESS SO I CAN TEACH HORTICULTURE AND GARDENING.

IT IS NOWHERE I CAN AFFORD THE PROPERTIES TO DO THAT.

I HAVE CLEARED THE LAND.

I'VE SPENT A ALL MY MONEY, UH, TO CREATE ROADS, TO KNOCK DOWN TREES, TO PUT THE PLATE, TO PUT THE HOUSE THERE.

IT'S GONNA SIT AMONGST 200 YEAR OLD OAK TREES AND IT WILL LOOK LIKE IT HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER.

AND AS A MASTER GARDENER, IT WILL BE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL HORTICULTURE FACILITY FOR OUR FUTURE CHILDREN TO COME OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN AND KNOW WHERE FOOD COMES

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FROM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, MS. FRANKS.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON EITHER OF THESE TWO ITEMS? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE? WELL, I GUESS THESE WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION BECAUSE THE, THE MOVE IS NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE IF THAT INITIATION IS CONTINUED.

SO, UM, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS FROM THE PUBLIC, THEN I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

EXCUSE ME, CAN I SPEAK IN FAVOR? OH, PLEASE.

OKAY, SIR, PLEASE COME TO THE MIC AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MY NAME IS MARK SEGAN.

UH, I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER AND RESIDENT OF 6 0 4 EAST THIRD STREET, UH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THESE TWO BUILDINGS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS, UH, REGARDING THE LAST MEETING FROM IN JULY.

UH, I BELIEVE Y'ALL REQUESTED THAT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY PRESENT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR A SUPPOSED $650 MILLION PROJECT.

UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT HERE TONIGHT.

SO, UM, I WOULD NUMBER ONE JUST ASK FOR POSTPONEMENT.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT.

AND IF THAT IS AN OPTION, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO POSTPONE.

NOW I'LL SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE, OF THE PRESERVATION OF THESE HOUSES.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DIDN'T, THAT DIDN'T COME UP LAST TIME WAS THAT THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THESE HOUSES LIVE THERE, OKAY? THERE ARE SEVEN HISTORIC STRUCTURES WITHIN A STONE'S THROW THESE TWO BUILDINGS, OKAY? TO BE MORE TECHNICAL,