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[CALL TO ORDER]

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IT'S 40 5:00 PM ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH.

UH, WE ARE AT THE, UH, CITY BOSTON'S, UH, PERMITTING AND, UH, DEVELOPMENT CENTER I WOULD LIKE TO CALL, UM, THE REGULAR MEETING OF, UH, THE SEPTEMBER MUSIC COMMISSION, UH, MEETING TO ORDER, UM, UH, SURELY IS, UM, IS A, IS A DAY OF, UH, REMEMBRANCE, UH, FOR, UH, LIVES THAT WERE LOST AND LIFE'S IMPACTED DUE TO THE VIOLENCE THAT OUR COUNTRY EXPERIENCED ON NINE 11.

AND I, I HOPE THAT MUSIC IN, UH, SOME FORM OR THE OTHER, BRINGS US TOGETHER AND, UH, OFFERS, UH, SOLACE TO OUR SOULS.

UM, WITH THAT, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD LIKE, UH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON, WITH, ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, KIM? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF, UH, MINUTES.

UH, ACTUALLY, BEFORE THAT, LET ME WELCOME, UH, NELSON AGUILAR HERE, UM, FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RYAN ALTIS, DISTRICT DISTRICT FIVE.

WELCOME, UH, UH, TO THE, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION.

WE ARE VERY THRILLED TO HAVE YOU HERE.

UM, IF YOU COULD, UH, PLEASE JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF, AND THEN I'LL MOVE ON.

UH, GOT IT.

MY NAME IS, UH, NELSON VALENTI LA FROM HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND I'M REPRESENTING, UH, DISTRICT FIVE.

UM, JUST GLAD TO BE HERE AND, UH, CAN'T WAIT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST LEARN MORE AND, UH, PARTICIPATE AND, UH, JUST MAKE AUSTIN A BETTER, UH, MUSIC COMMUNITY FOR ALL.

WELCOME, WELCOME AGAIN.

UM, MOVING ON

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UH, IF EVERYBODY HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW, UM, OR LOOK THROUGH THE, UM, MINUTES FROM THE LAST MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST 7TH, UH, I WOULD JUST, I, I THINK YOU MIGHT.

I REQUESTED A CORRECTION ON THE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST FAIR PAY ITEM.

UH, THE TWO ABSTAIN E VOTES WERE FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AND, UH, MYSELF.

UH, IT INDICATES THAT IT WAS FROM COMMISSIONER MAHO.

COMMISSIONER MAHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION, SO IF EVERYONE, UH, COULD PLEASE NOTE THAT CORRECTION IN THE DRAFT THAT WAS SENT OUT ON, UM, THE VOTES, UH, FOR THE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST FAIR PAY ITEM.

UH, AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE, UH, SOMEBODY COULD, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

I, I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THAT CORRECTION.

ANY SECONDS? FULL SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PATTERSON AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT.

UM, OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

UM,

[2. Live Music Fund collections update by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department. ]

MOVING ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS, UH, LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS.

UPDATE BY KIM MC CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION E D D.

THANK YOU, KIM.

HELLO, EVERYBODY.

UH, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ADDING COLORS TO OUR COLUMN.

UM, IF YOU COULD, UH, NEXT PAGE PLEASE.

YEAH, SO THERE WE HAVE A, A BRAND NEW COLOR AT THE TOP OF OUR COLUMN.

UM, THIS WOULD BE FOR JULY.

SO THIS IS THE LATEST INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.

UM, SO WE HAVE 827,586 ADDED, UH, FOR THE MONTH OF JULY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COLUMN, UM, ALL OF THIS ADDS UP TO YOUR NEW FISCAL YEAR, YEAR TO DATE ENCUMBRANCES OF 4 MILLION 1 42 AND 352 OH, AND EVERYBODY HAS A COPY IN COLOR TODAY.

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ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC? YEAH, I DO.

COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? UH, YES, SO THIS IS, LOOKS, EVERYTHING IS LOOKING REALLY AWESOME.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE EX, WE EXCEEDED THE BUDGET, SO WE F Y A 23 WAS ALMOST $3 MILLION, AND WE'RE AT OVER FOUR, IS THAT THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THE

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NUMBER WAS TELLING US, IS THAT IT'S NOW THE, REMEMBER THE, THE ESTIMATE IS JUST AN ESTIMATE, THE YEAR END ESTIMATE.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE JUST A SLIGHTLY BIT, JUST A SLIGHT BIT OVER THAT, UH, EXPECTED ESTIMATE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S GREAT.

AND, AND THE BUDGETED, THE 2.9, THAT'S THE BUDGETED EXPENSES WITH THE, THAT'S BASICALLY ALL THE LIVE MUSIC FUNDS DISBURSEMENTS, CORRECT? JUST FOR F Y 23? YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, AND SO, AND THEN WE'VE JUST GOT AUGUST, WE'VE GOT TWO, TWO MORE MONTHS TO ROLL IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

OKAY, COOL.

RIGHT.

THE FISCAL YEAR IS, THE FISCAL YEAR IS ENDING AND IT STARTS OVER IN OCTOBER, SO, OKAY.

UM, YEAH, SO WE HAVE JULY, SO WE'LL BE GETTING INFORMATION FOR AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, AND THEN THAT'S IT FOR THIS FOR F Y 23.

AND THEN THIS KIND OF MAY BE MORE OF A PART OF A DIFFERENT ITEM ON THE BUDGET, BUT DO, DO Y'ALL EXPECT THAT ALL THE, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND DISBURSEMENT, THE GRANT DISBURSEMENTS WILL HAPPEN BEFORE OCTOBER ONE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANYBODY ELSE? UH, YES, UH, I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXCHANGE A LITTLE CORRESPONDENCE WITH, UH, SOVIA HOLD RAB, UH, OVER THESE NUMBERS.

UM, I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE VARIANCE FROM MONTH TO MONTH THAN WE WOULD NORMALLY EXPECT.

UH, THIS GOES WELL BEYOND THE SEASONALITY IN THE SHOULDER SEASON.

UH, WHAT IS GOOD IS THAT THE NUMBERS ARE NOW PRESENTED NICE AND COLOR COLORFULLY, AND WE CAN SEE THAT, BUT RIGHT.

IF YOU LOOK, UH, I BELIEVE THE MONTH IS, UH, MARCH, THERE'S ONLY 5,509, OR MAYBE THAT'S DECEMBER.

UM, AND THAT, UM, MEANWHILE WHAT WE SEE FOR THE LATEST MONTH, IT'S, UH, 827,000.

THAT'S, UM, 160 TIMES MORE IN ONE MONTH THAN ANOTHER.

THAT GOES WAY, WAY BEYOND SEASONALITY.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOME VARIANCE IN THE COLLECTION.

WE'LL HAVE TO DIG INTO IT.

UM, THE, THE BIG CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS SO IRREGULAR, WE CAN'T REALLY KNOW.

WE'RE BOUND TO GET SURPRISES WHEN WE SEE THIS MUCH VARIANCE, BUT, UM, I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO SANOFI ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE HAVE ANOVIA HERE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

UM, ORRIN IS CORRECT.

THERE ARE SOME VARIANCES, BUT, UH, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, EACH, ALL OF THE REVENUE IS AUDITED.

SO ONCE THE YEARS ENDED AND WE PRESENT OUR AUDITED NUMBERS, THOSE ARE THE TRUE NUMBERS, BUT IT IS BASED ON WHAT IS SENT IN, AND THAT IS DEPENDENT UPON THE VENUE TO SEND IT IN ON TIME FOR THE STATE TO COLLECT IT AND THEN SEND IT TO US.

SO, UM, IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE ESTIMATE IS A VERY GOOD NUMBER THAT WE DEPEND TO MEASURE THE YEAR'S SUCCESS, AND WE ARE GONNA COME IN OVER BUDGET.

QUESTION MR. .

UM, SO IN THE BUDGET THAT COUNCIL JUST APPROVED, UH, FOR F Y 24, DID THEY, WAS THERE A SPECIFIC NUMBER APPROVED FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND DISBURSEMENTS FOR THE PROGRAM? YES.

AND WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT IS, WHAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED AS PART OF THE BUDGET IS 1.275 MILLION, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE DISBURSEMENTS TO OUR CLIENTS WHO APPLY AND ARE SUCCESSFUL AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATION FEE.

SO THAT'S TOTAL, THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR, UH, F Y 24.

SO THAT'S A GOOD INCREASE OVER.

RIGHT.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT INCREASING IT FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET, KNOWING THAT YOU WOULD BRING IN VENUES IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR IN 24.

AND SO WE BUILT THAT INTO OUR ESTIMATE.

AND AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, YOU STILL WILL HAVE ABOUT 5 MILLION IN THAT FUND.

SO WHAT YOU DON'T WANNA DO IS SPIKE IT AND THEN KEEP BRINGING IT DOWN.

WE'RE LOOKING AT KEEPING LEVEL FUNDING AS WE PROCEED.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S EXCELLENT PLANNING.

SO YEAH, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT UPDATE FROM, AND, UH, YEAH, SO IS THERE ANY DIS I FEEL BAD THAT I DIDN'T WATCH THE BUDGET MEETINGS, BUT IT WAS A CRAZY MONTH, SO WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL ABOUT THAT OR EVERYBODY WAS JUST LIKE, AWESOME, PROCEED.

NO DISCUSSION

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ON OUR DEPARTMENT BUDGET AT ALL.

OKAY.

FANTASTIC.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC, PLEASE? OKAY, THANK

[3. Discussion on LMF application feedback after presentation by Pat Buchta, Executive Director, ATXM]

YOU.

MOVING ON.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ON L M F APPLICATION FEEDBACK AFTER PRESENTATION BY PAT BOOKTA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, A D X M.

THANK YOU, PAT.

THERE WE GO.

OH, THERE WE GO.

OKAY, CHECK ONE, TWO.

NO, UM, YEAH, THANKS GUYS.

UH, PAT BTA, UH, WITH AUSTIN, TEXAS, MUSICIANS NON-PROFIT, ALSO HERE WITH SIERRA, UH, HALL, OUR EDUCATION AND, UH, ADVOCACY DIRECTOR.

AND, UM, WE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT, UH, SOME FEEDBACK WE DID RECEIVE, UH, FROM OUR GROUP ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION.

UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AS WE GET STARTED HERE.

UH, FOR SOME OF THE NEWER, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2019.

UH, WE ARE A, UM, NONPROFIT THAT LOBBIES FOR MUSICIANS ON CITY, STATE, AND FEDERAL POLICY.

UH, AND WE ALSO PROVIDE SOME BASIC NEEDS AND SERVICES, UH, FOR OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY.

UH, WE JUST SURPASSED A MEMBERSHIP OF, UH, 5,000 CENTRAL TEXAS MUSICIANS.

UM, SO THE SAMPLE SIZE, UH, FROM THE FEEDBACK WE OBTAINED, UM, IS PRETTY LARGE, AT LEAST FOR THIS ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK.

UH, WE DID MANAGE TO CALL THIS DOWN TO, UM, A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT WE'LL GIVE YOU NOW, UH, AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE SURVEY FORM THAT WE HAVE, UH, OUT THERE CURRENTLY.

UM, AND AGAIN, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THIS.

UH, OUR FIRST PROJECT, UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED IN 2019 WAS TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH, UH, YOU GUYS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO, UM, WORK WITH COUNCIL TO PULL DOWN A PORTION OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES TO CREATE WHAT WE NOW CALL THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

UH, ALSO WORKED, UH, DIRECTLY WITH SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE ALREADY PRESENT AT THAT TIME.

I'M LOOKING AT YOU, ANN CHARLOTTE.

SO, UH, SO WE'RE ALL FRIENDS HERE.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALL THE WORK WE'VE ALL DONE TOGETHER TO GET HERE.

AND I WANNA BE VERY CAREFUL AS WE PRESENT THIS INFORMATION, UH, TO, TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT CRITICISM, THIS IS SIMPLY, UH, COLLABORATIVE, UH, FEEDBACK SO WE CAN ALL SORT OF MASSAGE THE PROCESS AND IMPROVE AS WE GO FORWARD.

UM, SO, UH, YEAH, LET'S, UM, LET'S GET INTO IT.

I THINK, UH, I'M GONNA HAVE SARAH RE THE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT WE DID GATHER, UM, AND, UH, WE'LL READ THIS FIRST PANEL, IF YOU WILL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UH, YEAH.

AFTER THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION CLOSED, WE RECEIVED A WIDE RANGE OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR MEMBERS INFORMING US OF BOTH SHORTFALLS AND BENEFITS, UH, TO THE CURRENT FORM.

UH, WHAT FOLLOWS IS BOTH ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE AND DATA POINTS THAT ILLUSTRATE THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH THE APPLICATION.

UH, WE DO HOPE THE STATUS SET WILL SERVE TO ASSIST, UH, STAFF AND CONFI COMMISSION AND FORMING ROUND TWO OF THE Y MUSIC FUND.

SARAH, UH, AND IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND SARAH'S GONNA READ THROUGH THESE.

I'M SORRY.

I GUESS YOU NEED THE, UM, I THINK IT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

THANK YOU.

OH, YEAH.

WELL, AND WHAT YOU SAW, THERE WAS A PIE CHART, UM, THAT ACTUALLY DOES ILLUSTRATE.

WE DID, UH, TALLY UP THE NUMBERS FROM THE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, UH, THAT WE RECEIVED.

AND, UM, IT SHOWS THAT, UH, MUSIC, 95 OF PERCENT OF MUSICIANS, UH, HAD SOMEWHAT NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS AT THIS TIME, UH, 5% DID, UH, OFFER A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.

OKAY.

UM, SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM OUR GROUP, UH, I FEEL LIKE THIS LIVE MUSIC FUND DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO ME, AND I'M SOMEONE WHO DOES MUSIC FOR A LIVING.

IT FEELS LIKE IT'S MORE FOR PROMOTERS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE ARE IN THE ONLY CITY ON THE CONTINENT PUTTING ON A LIVE MUSIC FUND LIKE THIS.

APPLY IF YOU HAVE ISSUES, ATTEND THEIR OFFICE HOURS POSTED ON THE SITE.

THERE'S SOME GOOD HUMANS TRYING TO HELP.

NEXT SLIDE.

MANY OF US DO PUT EVENTS TOGETHER WITH THESE KINDS OF DOCUMENTS OR BUDGETS, WHICH COULD BE USED AS PROOFS OR PLANS,

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BUT THEY TAKE TIME TO CREATE.

AND IT CAN BE A FULL-TIME JOB TO DO THAT WITH THIS WINDOW OF TIME FOR THE APPLICATION AFTER JUST FINDING OUT THE PARAMETERS, WHILE TAKING CARE OF OUR FAMILIES AND ACTUALLY DOING OUR JOBS IS UNREALISTIC FOR MOST.

NEXT SLIDE.

SEEMS WAY TOO COMPLICATED AND REALLY NOT GEARED TO HELP THE AVERAGE MUSICIAN TRYING TO BUILD THEIR CAREER AND MAKE A LIVING PLAYING LIVE MUSIC IN THIS COMMUNITY.

MANY MUSICIANS ARE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THESE FUNDS.

WHEN WILL IT EVER REALLY BE ABOUT HELPING MUSICIANS? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GROUP COMMITTEE MEANT FOR THE PROCESS TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT TO BE SO COMPLICATED.

NEXT, WHILE THERE ARE NEVER GUARANTEES, I SUGGEST APPLYING AND YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT THE GRANT WRITING PROCESS FOR NOW OR FOR YOUR FUTURE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET TO THE END OF THE APPLICATION, BUT I'D SAY THAT WHOEVER PUT THIS TOGETHER DIDN'T BOTHER TO TALK TO EVEN ONE LOCAL MUSICIAN SUCH AS MYSELF OR PRETTY MUCH ANY AND ALL OF MY MUSICIAN FRIENDS.

I'M NOT GONNA BOTHER WITH IT ANY FURTHER.

BEST OF LUCK TO THOSE ARTISTS WHO ARE ABLE TO BE ACCEPTED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS ONE SEEMS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED AND MORE ABOUT PRODUCTION OF A LIVE SHOW AND GEARED MORE TOWARDS PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND TOURISM THAN INTEREST IN HELPING AN ARTIST ACHIEVE THEIR VISION.

I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET MY NEW SONGS RECORDED.

SEEMS I'D NEED TO SPEND A LOT MORE TIME SPINNING MY ARTISTIC VISION TO MEET THE GUIDELINES THAN I WOULD ON ACHIEVING MY OWN ARTISTIC GOALS.

AND THAT SEEMS LIKE AN ANTI-ART GOAL AND COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO ACTUALLY RAISING UP ARTISTS.

I KEEP GOING BACK AND READING THE RULES AS I'M NOT USUALLY ONE TO GIVE UP WITHOUT TRYING, BUT EVERY TIME I COME AWAY WITH THE SAME FEELING ABOUT IT, WHICH IS WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS? AND WHO IS IT FOR? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IT APPEARS TO BE GEARED MORE TOWARDS PROMOTERS AND VENUE OPERATORS AND IS IRRELEVANT TO ANY OF MY NEEDS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IT FEELS LIKE THIS LIVE MUSIC FUND DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO ME, AND I'M SOMEONE WHO DOES LIVE MUSIC FOR A LIVING.

IT FEELS LIKE IT'S MORE FOR PROMOTERS.

MAYBE I'M INTERPRETING IT WRONG.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I GAVE UP WHEN THEY ASKED FOR SPECIFIC BUDGET SPREADSHEETS AND PROJECT DETAILS, ET CETERA.

TOTALLY SEEMS GEARED TOWARDS NONPROFITS OR SPECIFIC LIVE CULTURAL MINDED PRODUCTIONS OR SOMETHING.

ALL WOR, ALL WORTHY CAUSES, BUT NOT REALLY FOR INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS TRYING TO COVER EVERYDAY STUDIO OR TOURING TYPE COSTS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I FELT IT WAS WAY MORE BASED ON HELPING SOMEONE THROW AN EVENT THAN IT WAS FOR ARTISTS TO CREATE ART.

NEXT SLIDE.

, BASED ON COMMENTS I'VE READ IN THIS GROUP, I HAVEN'T MESSED WITH IT.

I HAVE AN ALBUM THAT WILL BE READY TO MIX, MASTER AND MANUFACTURE.

BEFORE LONG, I WAS GOING TO SEEK MONETARY ASSISTANCE AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN CONTRIBUTING TO THE LOCAL CULTURE FOR 30 YEARS, BUT IT REALLY SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR EVENTS TO FUND.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

APPEARS TO BE GEARED TOWARDS FUNDING AN EVENT, SO I HAVEN'T PURSUED IT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I GAVE UP AS WELL AT THE FORM SECTION FOR FILLING AN AD TIME FOR RADIO, TV, ET CETERA.

NONE OF THAT PERTAINS TO INDIVIDUALS AND BANDS NEEDING FUNDS TO RECORD PRESS, ET CETERA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I APPLIED, DEFINITELY TOOK ME HOURS, BUT I WAS ALREADY HAD A SOLID PROJECT IN MARKETING PLAN, SO THAT HELPED.

DON'T TRY TO DO IT ON YOUR PHONE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

FOR MY CURSORY REVIEW.

IT SEEMS TO BE STRICTLY FOR LIVE PERFORMANCE, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN SELECT OTHER USES, WHICH IS A TAD CONFUSING IF ONLY FOR A LIVE EVENT, 10 K OR EVEN FIVE K SEEMS EXTREMELY GENEROUS.

IF IT CAN BE APPLIED TO A RECORDING PROJECT, THEN THOSE AMOUNTS SEEM RIGHT IN LINE, BUT NOT SO MUCH IF IT'S FOR A LIVE EVENT TO DEBUT, SAID PROJECT.

LASTLY, CAN I SUBMIT ON BEHALF OF MY LIVE PERFORMANCE TRIBUTE BAND, AS WELL AS MYSELF AS A SOLO ACT, WITH PLANS TO BE PERFORMING NEW ORIGINAL MUSIC LIVE IN HOPEFULLY NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE, IF IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER, WHICH STANDS A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING APPROVED? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YEAH, SO, UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE BASIS OF THE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE WE GATHERED.

UH, LAST WEEK WE LAUNCHED A MORE DETAILED, UH, SURVEY FORM, UH, TO THE GROUP.

UH, AND WE DID INCLUDE THE LINK, UH, THERE.

UH, THIS SURVEY SEEKS TO GATHER, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS, THE GUIDELINES, AND EVEN THE TECHNICAL, UH, SORT OF SIDE OF THE APPLICATION AS WELL.

WE DID HEAR FROM SOME MUSICIANS THAT THEY HAD SOME ISSUES WITH, UM, THE TECHNICAL PORTION.

AS, AS YOU KNOW, I, I THINK SOME OF THEM GOT PRETTY FAR INTO THE APPLICATION AND THEN NOTICED THAT THE APPLICATION, UH, REFRESHED AND DID NOT SAVE THEIR MATERIAL.

I, I THINK THAT ISSUE'S BEEN RECTIFIED, BUT, UM, BUT THAT IS WHAT THIS, UH, FORM SEEKS TO DO.

UH, CURRENTLY

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THE SAMPLE SIZE IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO PRESENT TO YOU GUYS, SO WE ARE GONNA PRESENT THAT TO YOU NEXT MONTH.

UH, WE WOULD LOVE, UH, FOR YOUR, UH, COLLABORATION AND SHARING THIS OUT AND TAKING THE SURVEY AS WELL.

UH, BUT THAT, UH, LINK IS LIVE NOW, UH, FOR THAT SURVEY FORM.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO THERE'S OUR, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION.

UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.

WE'VE ALL WORKED REALLY HARD TOGETHER OVER THESE LAST FEW YEARS TO GET HERE.

UH, SO WE ARE SIMPLY HERE TO WORK FOR THE MUSICIANS WE REPRESENT, AND FOR YOU GUYS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL, UH, COME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT REALLY SERVES, UH, MUSICIANS, UH, IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE.

UM, SO HUMBLY AND RESPECTFULLY, WE OFFER THIS INFORMATION AND, UH, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, PAT.

UM, UH, AND, UH, SARAH, UM, I THINK, UM, UM, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT, UH, IT'S VERY VALUABLE FOR, UM, US, UM, AS A, A MUSIC INDUSTRY AND MUSIC COMMUNITY TO HAVE A COHORT MUSICIAN, UH, ORGANIZATION SUCH AS EOS, UH, WHO CAN KIND OF HELP US, UM, MISS US OUT, LIKE WHAT THE TEMPERATURE ON THE GROUND IS.

SO, UM, THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME FOR, UH, GETTING THIS FEEDBACK, UH, AND COMING AND PRESENTING IT HERE.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO, UH, COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS POINT.

COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

OKAY.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING IN, GUYS.

UM, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SURVEY PROCESS AND LIKE HOW COMMENTS WERE GATHERED, HOW MANY PEOPLE RESPONDED TO YOUR SURVEY AND SO ON? SURE.

WELL, THE SURVEY'S ONLY BEEN LIVE FOR ABOUT, UM, LESS THAN A WEEK, SO THE SAMPLE SIZE IS STILL A LITTLE SMALL.

BUT, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE, UM, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE DID OFFER, AND WE'LL EVEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS HAVE SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO EVEN MASSAGING THAT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

HOW LONG IS THE QUESTIONNAIRE? UH, CAN WE PULL IT UP? DO WE HAVE A, A INTERNET IN HERE? UM, OKAY.

WHILE THEY DO THAT, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE TOPIC? SO THE COMMENTS THAT YOU WERE IN YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT, WERE THOSE FROM THE SURVEY OR WERE THEY GATHERED? NO, THOSE, THOSE WERE GATHERED.

UM, REALLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO WHEN THE APPLICATION WENT LIVE.

UH, WE ACTUALLY WAITED TILL THE APPLICATION WINDOW CLOSED.

UH, BUT THOSE COMMENTS WERE MOSTLY GATHERED ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS, UH, AFTER THE APPLICATION PROCESS CLOSED.

OKAY.

SO WE'VE BEEN KIND OF PARSING THIS INFORMATION OUT, UH, IN THAT WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE TO KEEP SEPARATE THE APPLICATION DISCUSSION, UH, AND THEN ALSO THE GUIDELINES.

AND THEN I THINK AS WE COME, UH, FOR THESE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE CAN PRESENT, UH, SOME OR AT LEAST WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND COLLABORATE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT OUR MUSICIANS, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I THINK ON THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AS YOU GET RESULTS, PAT, UH, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN COME BACK AND SHARE THOSE DEFINITELY WITH US IN THE NEXT, UH, UH, COMMISSION MEETING.

I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD WORK AS WELL, SINCE YOU JUST OPENED IT UP.

YEP.

WE PLAN TO HAVE A LA UH, QUITE A LARGE SUR SURVEY SAMPLE, UH, FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, SO.

GOT IT.

UM, ANYBODY ONLINE, UH, THAT HAS ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER SADA? HEY EVERYONE.

UM, I, UH, HAD A COLLEAGUE THAT, UM, I THINK, UM, WAS AWARDED A GRANT AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE SO HAPPY AND THRILLED, UM, WITH, I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY ABOUT THE PROCESS, BUT THEY WERE HAPPY TO BE AWARDED.

UM, SOMETHING, UM, WERE THERE ANY POSITIVE FEEDBACKS BE FEEDBACK FROM THE, THE SURVEY AND HAVE WE OR YOU GUYS REACHED OUT TO ANYONE WHO WAS AWARDED? YEAH, UH, AGAIN, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS SIMPLY, UM, ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE ON THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

UH, WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF RESULTS, UH, WITHIN THE GROUP OVER THE LAST MONTH ON, UH, AWARDS, AND WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF POSITIVES ON THAT.

UH, BUT THAT, THAT INFORMATION WE HAVEN'T SHARED WITH YOU GUYS YET.

'CAUSE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF KIND OF COMPILING THAT SINCE, UH, SOME OF THOSE MONIES ARE STILL GOING OUT.

UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, JUST TO CLARIFY, IS ONLY, UH, REGARDING THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

BUT CELESTE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YEAH, WE DID GET A LOT OF POSITIVES, UH, FOR THE AWARD PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? UH, COMMISSIONER CASADA? OKAY.

UH, I HAVE, UH, I HAVE, I, I SPOKE WITH, SORRY, I JUST, UH, COMMISSIONER AL, I JUST WAS CHECKING IF YOU HAD ANY FOLLOW-UP COMMENT AND I'LL YIELD TO YOU, UH, RIGHT AFTER WE GOOD THERE? THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S

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FINE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER AL, PLEASE.

YEP.

I SPOKE TO ZACH TRAEGER OF THE MUSEUM OF HU HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT, AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE PROCESS AND WHAT HE TOLD ME MIRRORS VERY MUCH WHAT PATRICK AND SARAH SAID.

HE TOLD ME OF A LOT OF FRUSTRATION, UH, AGAIN, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER SLIDES, HE AGREED IT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING, BUT HE SAID THAT, UH, TAKING, KEEPING IN MIND THE NEEDS OF MUSICIANS WOULD BE HELPFUL AND THAT WAS WHAT HE HEARD FROM, FROM QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT ALONG.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

YEAH.

SO THE MUSEUM OF HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT, THAT WAS A COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR THROUGH THE CITY, IS THAT CORRECT? HELPING, YEAH.

HELPING PEOPLE, UM, COMPLETE APPLICATIONS.

MM-HMM.

, IS THAT RIGHT? SO, YEAH.

SO I THINK THINK THAT THEY WERE NOT, THEY WERE NOT AN OFFICIAL CITY COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR.

THEY WERE DOING IT ON THEIR OWN.

OH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

UH, WAS THERE, WAS THERE A COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY HELPING WITH THIS? I KNOW THAT STAFF WAS HELPING QUITE A BIT AND THERE WERE ZOOMS AND WORKSHOPS AND SO ON, BUT NO.

OKAY.

UH, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I, I WILL OFFER THAT THE, THE SURVEY, UH, DOES ALSO SEEK TO GATHER SOME INFORMATION AROUND THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROCESS AS, AS WELL.

SO, OKAY.

YEAH, I MEAN, I HAVE, I GUESS I DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR TAKEAWAYS, BUT LIKE, I, I THINK AS, UM, OUR CHAIR WAS SAYING, IT'S PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND SEE WHAT YOU GET FROM THE SURVEY AND THEN WE CAN PARSE IT ALL OUT YEP.

AND, AND MAKE SOME BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS.

'CAUSE I KNOW PROBABLY A LOT OF THOSE COMMENTS WERE COMING JUST AS PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO FINISH APPLICATIONS AND, AND, UH, THAT'S A STRESSFUL TIME, BUT I MEAN, NOT THAT THAT IT'S NOT VALUABLE, BUT I THINK I, IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD TO HAVE THE PERSPECTIVE AT THIS POINT.

AGREED.

I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU, YOU'RE CORRECT.

I THINK WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE'RE SEEING SOME FRUSTRATION AND WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE PRESENTING THAT INFORMATION ON ITS FACE, UH, WITHOUT ANY INTERPRETATION.

I THINK WHAT WE'LL SEE WITH THE SURVEY IS A LOT OF JUST SPECIFIC DATA POINTS WITHOUT ANY BIAS THAT WE CAN, UH, INTERPRET, UH, TO REALLY INFORM THE PROCESS A LITTLE BETTER.

UM, 'CAUSE AS A COMMISSION, I THINK WHAT WE ALL NEED TO DO IS FROM ALL THE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK THAT WE GET BACK, OR WORK WITH STAFF TO JUST IDENTIFY SPECIFIC, UM, SPECIFIC PAIN POINTS BASICALLY, OR AREAS WHERE THINGS CAN BE ADJUSTED.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL ALONG, THAT WE KNEW THAT BASICALLY WE'RE IN BETA AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.

BUT JUST SORT OF SOME THINGS THAT I, I TOOK NOTES ABOUT AND, UM, SEE IF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AGREE.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE INTENDED AUDIENCE, UH, SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF PROJECTS QUALIFY.

AND, UM, IT'S PO AND THERE WAS A NEED FOR, UM, MORE TIME BEFORE THE SURVEY OPENED FOR, UH, PEOPLE TO REVIEW, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS, MAYBE DO A EARLIER, SOME OF THE ZOOM MEETINGS THAT WERE HA THE WORKSHOPS THAT WERE HAPPENING ONCE THE SURVEY OPENS.

LIKE MAYBE SOME OF THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED, UM, JUST AHEAD OF TIME TO SEE IF PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS.

AND SO THAT, THAT GIVES US A SENSE OF LIKE, HOW MUCH LEAD TIME PEOPLE NEED TO KIND OF DIGEST WHAT'S REQUIRED.

AND THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF MY PERSONAL TAKEAWAYS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF.

AND I, AND I WOULD ASK EACH, UH, COMMISSIONER AND, UH, STAFF AS WELL, IF YOU GUYS WANNA REVIEW THAT SURVEY FORM.

AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THERE THAT YOU FEEL LIKE, UH, COULD BE, UH, MASSAGED OR IF THERE'S ANY, ANYTHING WE'RE MISSING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THERE.

UH, THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.

WE WANNA WORK WITH YOU GUYS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THIS THING IS DONE ACCURATELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU, PAT.

UM, I THINK, YEAH, IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT, UH, IF YOU COULD SEND IT TO STAFF, UH, AND, UH, REQUEST THEM TO SHARE IT WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK, UH, YOU KNOW, PLEASE ABSOLUTELY FEEL FREE TO DO THAT.

UM, I THINK, UM, WELL, WE, WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS, UH, A FIRST TIME ROLLOUT OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

UM, AND THIS WAS ALSO HAPPENING IN THE MIDST OF, UH, THREE PROGRAMS GETTING SIMULTANEOUSLY ROLLED OUT THIS YEAR ON THE ART SIDE.

SO, UM, APART FROM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE OF, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF IN OUR REALM OF THINGS WHERE, UH, THERE WERE FOUR NEW, UH, OR NEWLY DESIGNED GRANTS THAT WERE BEING ROLLED OUT.

SO IT'S A PILOT, UH, LET'S LOOK AT IT AS A PILOT AND SEE HOW WE CAN BUILD FROM HERE.

I THINK, UM, FOR ME, UM, UH, THE, THE KIND OF A VERY BOTTOM LINE TAKEAWAY IS, FIRST OF ALL, THIS, UH, HOW DO WE DISTINGUISH THIS FUND THAT IS, UM, AIMED AT COMMERCIAL MUSIC FROM THE CULTURAL ARTS FUND.

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UM, AND, UH, SECONDLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S, ESPECIALLY WITH INDIVIDUALS, UH, AS OPPOSED TO POTENTIALLY MORE NON-PROFITS AND, UH, FOR PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS SUPPLYING, AND I KNOW THERE'S INDIVIDUALS SUPPLYING ON THE ARTS SIDE AS WELL, BUT JUST BEING THIS, BEING SO MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUAL MUSICIANS, UM, I THINK SIMPLIFICATION, FIGURING OUT HOW TO SIMPLIFY THE APPLICATION PROCESS WHILE STILL MEETING THE INTENT OF, UH, WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE OUT OF THESE LIVE MUSIC FUND GRANTS.

UH, I THINK THAT IF WE CAN KIND OF USE THOSE AS PRINCIPLES, IF WE ALL AGREE ON THAT AND, AND, AND SEE HOW WE CAN, UH, MODIFY, I THINK WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

UH, BUT, AND I, I'M ALSO VERY CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT, UH, WHAT, UM, ERICA HAS TO PRESENT AFTER IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES.

SO YES, THERE MIGHT BE, AND I'M NOT, I I WON'T SAY THERE MIGHT BE, THERE WAS, UH, VERY CLEARLY FRUSTRATION AROUND THE APPLICATION PROCESS, AROUND THE COMPLEXITY, COMPLEXITY OF IT, AND SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES AS WELL THAT FOLKS RAN INTO.

UM, ALSO VERY CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE AND HOW, HOW DO THEY MEET, UH, WHAT THE INTENT OF THE PROGRAM, UH, IS AND HOW THEY PANNED OUT.

YEAH.

AND, AND AGAIN, UM, JUST TO CLOSE, I I WOULD LIKE TO JUST, UM, REALLY REITERATE HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT CAN SEEM, UH, THAT THIS IS A LOT OF NEGATIVE, UH, FEEDBACK COMING FORWARD.

BUT AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR, UH, WE'RE ALL FIGURING THIS OUT TOGETHER.

YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN A TON OF TIME ON THIS THING AS, AS EVERYBODY ELSE, UH, HAS.

AND I HATE TO PRESENT INFORMATION WITHOUT SOLUTIONS.

SO WHEN WE DO COME TO THE TABLE, UH, NEXT MONTH AND IN THE COMING MONTHS, UH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS ON WHAT THOSE SOLUTIONS CAN LOOK LIKE.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, PAT.

AND, UH, THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS AS WE WANT TO, UH, I SAW TWO HANDS RAISED THERE.

I'LL, I'LL GET YOU VERY QUICKLY.

UM, AGAIN, UM, AS WE THINK ABOUT, UH, MAYBE UPDATING, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, MAYBE HOW THE APPLICATION PROCESSES, ET CETERA, UM, THIS, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT IN A MANNER, IN A TIME BOUND MANNER AS WELL.

SO WE ARE GETTING THAT FEEDBACK IN MAKING THOSE CHANGES.

SO IT'S READY ON TIME FOR NEXT YEAR'S, UH, PROGRAM.

UH, I'M NOT SURE WHO RAISED THEIR HAND FIRST, BUT IF I MAY CALL COMMISSIONER GOUL FIRST AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER CASADA AFTER.

HI.

THANK YOU.

UM, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? UM, SO, UH, I WAS TANGENTIALLY INVOLVED WITH A COUPLE OF, UH, APPLICATIONS, UH, FOR THIS LAST ROUND, UM, AS LIKE A ADVISOR.

UM, AND, UM, ONE OF THE BANDS THAT I'M IN, SOMEONE ELSE APPLIED FOR A PROJECT AND I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT UNTIL LATER.

UM, AND, UH, THOSE WERE BOTH AWARDED, WHICH IS AWESOME.

UM, AND SO THAT'S MY, MY FULL DISCLOSURE THAT I, I'M INVOLVED IN A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE, UM, THAT WERE, UH, APPROVED, WHICH IS EXCITING.

UM, AND I ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GOOD TO BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH THE APPLICATION, UH, WITH MY FRIEND THAT I WAS ADVISING, UM, AND SEE THE WHOLE PROCESS.

AND, UM, IT REALLY, THE COMMENTS THAT, UH, THAT PAT SHARED AND AND SARAH SHARED REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME IN TERMS OF LIKE COMING AT IT FROM, UM, THE WORK A DAY MUSICIAN'S PERSPECTIVE.

UM, BECAUSE IT REALLY FEELS LIKE THE, THE, THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM IS GEARED FOR SPECIAL OCCASION EVENTS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE, IF YOU WERE PRIVY TO THE ENTIRE PROCESS AND ALL THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT IS IN LINE WITH EVERYTHING, ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE WERE GOTTEN.

IT'S THE LIVE MUSIC EVENT PROGRAM BECAUSE OF ITS FOUR SPECIFIC LIVE MUSIC EVENTS.

AND THEN WE TRIED TO ADD IN THE OTHER, UM, PARTS OF THE ECOSYSTEM SO THAT PEOPLE COULD USE THE FUNDS FOR STUDIO WORK AND OTHER THINGS.

BUT IT REALLY FEELS LIKE IN ORDER FOR, IT FELT LIKE IN ORDER FOR THESE PROJECTS TO REALLY DO WELL IN THAT APPLICATION SYSTEM, THEY NEEDED TO BE VERY SPECIAL.

NOT JUST LIKE, NOT THAT EVERYTHING WE DO AS ARTIST IS ISN'T SPECIAL 'CAUSE IT IS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT FELT LIKE YOU HAD TO REALLY CRAFT SOMETHING THAT WAS LIKE A ONE SOFT, YOU KNOW, THING, WHICH, AND THAT'S GREAT.

AND THAT'S, IT'S VERY, UM, IT'S STIMULATING CREATIVELY AND IT'S ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE WANTED IT TO DO, UM, AND ALLOWING US TO DO PROJECTS THAT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T DO OTHERWISE, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THEN HELPING OUT THE WORKDAY MUSICIANS TO JUST BE ABLE TO MAKE A LIVING AND LIVE IN THIS TOWN.

AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE, A LOT OF MUSICIANS SEE LIVE MUSIC FUN AND THINK COOL, I PLAY

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LIVE MUSIC, THIS SHOULD BE FOR ME.

AND THEN THEY REALIZE LIKE, WELL, THIS DOESN'T ACTUALLY HELP ME WITH MY EVERYDAY, YOU KNOW, MUSIC MAKING.

SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT THING AND WE NEED TO MAYBE SEE HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE MORE OF HELPING OUT THE WORKDAY MUSICIANS WITH, UM, MAKING THINGS, MAKING THINGS BETTER FOR THEM IN WHATEVER WAY THAT LOOKS.

UM, AND I'M INTERESTED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THAT MORE.

UM, AND THEN MAKING THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN LIKE THE EVENT PROGRAM IS FOR THAT IT IS WHAT IT IS AND MAKE SURE WE COMMUNICATE THAT CLEARLY WITH PEOPLE, BUT THAT, THAT'S NOT ALL WE'RE DOING WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

BECAUSE IF WE'RE DOING THAT, THEN IT REALLY ISN'T GONNA HELP AS MANY MUSICIANS AS WE ALL WANT IT TO, I THINK.

SO THAT'S JUST THE PERSPECTIVE I HAVE TO SHARE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

AND I'D LOVE TO TALK MORE WITH YOU GUYS, PAT AND SARAH, ABOUT, ABOUT THIS AND HAVE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TOO.

SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CA.

UM, IN TERMS OF THIS BEING A LIVE MUSIC GRANT AND JUST FOCUSING ON LIKE THE GRANT ASPECT OF IT, UM, I WONDER ALLOWED IN TERMS OF THE SURVEY, IF THE, WE COULD INCLUDE QUESTIONS, WHETHER IT'S, UM, THIS CURRENT SURVEY OR ANOTHER SURVEY THAT WOULD BE, HAVE YOU SUBMITTED A MUSIC ORIENTED GRANT BEFORE, WOULD BE NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO WOULD BE WHAT GRANTS HAVE YOU SUBMITTED TO BEFORE? AND THEN NUMBER THREE, WHAT ARE YOUR FAVORITE GRANTS THAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED TO BEFORE? AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD HELP, UM, JUST FOCUS ON THIS ONE RESOURCE THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING, AND WE CAN LEARN WHERE WE'RE AT AS A COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF APPLYING FOR MUSIC ORIENTED GRANTS AND WHAT GRANTS DO THEY REALLY LIKE.

AND MAYBE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LEARN FROM THOSE SPECIFIC GRANTS, WHETHER IT'S TEXAS COMM, COMMISSION ON THE ARTS OR WHATEVER ALL THOSE ARE.

BUT I THINK GATHERING MORE INFORMATION MAY BE, UM, USEFUL.

THANK YOU.

UH, JUST, UH, VERY QUICKLY, KIM, UM, SVIA DOES A D D RUN A SURVEY POST THESE, UH, UH, GRANT PROCESS AND ONCE THE RESULTS ARE OUT, IF YOU COULD THROW SOME MORE LIGHT ON THAT.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

SO NOVIA HOPE, RAB DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I WANT TO THANK PAT FOR BRINGING FORTH THOSE, UM, THE RESULTS OF YOUR SURVEY.

IT'S NOT ANYTHING UNUSUAL THAT WE HAVE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS, AND I JUST WANNA LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO TAKE A STEP BACK.

LIVE MUSIC CLIENTS ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT USE THIS SYSTEM, OUR SMALL BUSINESS CLIENTS, ET CETERA.

AND SO WE ARE GONNA BE DOING SURVEYS ON THE USER EXPERIENCE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING IN A CONSULTANT TO GET FEEDBACK ON THE USER EXPERIENCE, HOW IT INTERFACES WITH THE QUESTION AND THE SYSTEM ITSELF.

SO WE ARE GONNA BE TAKING A HOLISTIC APPROACH IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS AND WE DON'T WANNA HAVE BARRIERS FOR OUR, UM, CLIENTS, UM, BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT GRANT.

BUT JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE VERY WELL AWARE.

I MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE HISPANIC QUALITY OF LIFE, AND I TOLD THEM THAT UNTIL I'M SATISFIED THAT WE CAN GET IT, UM, THE BEST EXPERIENCE FOR OUR CLIENTS, WE WILL NOT ROLL OUT THE NEXT GRANT UNTIL WE HAVE DONE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD THIS, WE RECOGNIZE IT, WE ADMIT, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THIS FORMULA, WHETHER IT'S DIGITAL LITERACY, GRANT WRITING, TALK TO MY EQUITY INCLUSION COORDINATOR TODAY.

AND EVEN HE BROUGHT SOME THINGS TO ME THAT WAS LIKE, OH, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

SO I'M GLAD HE'S ON BOARD, BUT KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD IT, WE, UM, WE ACCEPT IT, BUT WE ARE GONNA DO A HOLISTIC, COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IN TERMS OF THE SYSTEM.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT THE MECHANICS OF PORTAL OVERLAYING WITH THE APPLICATION QUESTIONS, HOW IT'S ASKED, ET CETERA, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS, WE DID HAVE ONE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UM, LANGUAGE ACCESS ISSUES THAT WE NEEDED IN MORE THAN ONE.

SO TRUST ME, UM, MY ACTING DIRECTOR PROBABLY HAS A 10 PAGE PLAN THAT WE ARE GONNA TRY TO EXECUTE TO GET IT RIGHT, BUT KNOWING THAT WE DO RECOGNIZE THE CHALLENGES, AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WITH SOME GRANTS, THEY

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DON'T EVEN HAVE AS MUCH ASSISTANCE AS WE PROVIDED EVEN AT THE STATE LEVEL.

SO IT'S KINDA A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD, HOW MUCH HELP DO WE PROVIDE, UM, COSTS, ET CETERA.

BUT WE DON'T WANT BARRIERS BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS A FUND THAT IS SPECIFIC TO HELP MUSICIANS.

SO EVEN MARKETING, COMMUNICATE, WE'RE TAKING A HOLISTIC LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

SO WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE TO ONES WE ARE ALREADY DEVELOPING IN CONSULT WITH OUR CONSULTANT.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

IT DOES, IT DOES.

UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, PRO PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.

UM, BY NOW, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M A DETAILS AND, UH, TIMELINES PERSON.

SO, UH, AT, AT THE NEXT MEETING, IF YOU COULD PLEASE, UM, HELP US UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE THROUGH WHICH THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS CONSULTANT IS GONNA WORK THROUGH AND PROVIDE AN OUTCOME, AND THEN WHAT'S THE ACTION OUT OF THAT? THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, BECAUSE OF COURSE, MY CONCERN IS HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE ROLLOUTS FOR NEXT YEAR? UM, AND, AND OVERALL ALSO, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, AGAIN, A TWO-PRONG THING.

ONE IS A SYSTEM ISSUE, WHERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SOFTWARE WORKING WELL ENOUGH FOR WHAT, UH, WE NEED TO BE PROVIDING, UM, FOR THIS APPLICATION PROCESS.

THE SECOND PIECE OF IT IS STILL THE, THE QUESTIONS AND MM-HMM.

, THE, THE STYLE OF THE APPLICATION ITSELF.

ARE THERE CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THERE, UH, IN ORDER TO SIMPLIFY OR WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO MAKE THIS E EASIER FOR THE, UH, UH, FOR THE MUSIC COMMUNITY? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING OUR USER EXPERIENCE.

HOW DOES THE USER INTERFACE IN THE QUESTIONS? SO IT'S INCLUSIVE OF THE QUAL UH, THE NATURE OF THE QUESTIONS.

MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

, I SEE.

MM-HMM.

, THANK YOU.

YEAH, WE RECOGNIZE THAT.

SO, UM, WE'LL TRY TO HAVE A A SOMEWHAT OF A FIRM TIMELINE NEXT MONTH.

UM, WE HAVE ONE COMPONENT CONSULTANT READY, BUT WE'RE STILL HARNESSING, UM, ON THE SECOND ONE.

AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR, UM, OUR C T M DEPARTMENT, OUR TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT ALSO.

SO WE'VE BROUGHT IN ALL THE HEAVY GUNS, TRUST US TO TRY TO, BUT WHAT I TOLD THE HISPANIC QUALITY OF LIFE, I DON'T WANNA ROLL OUT SOMETHING AND THEN I'M RIGHT HERE BACK EXPLAINING, OH, THIS IS WHAT I MISS.

YEAH.

SO ALLOW US THAT OPPORTUNITY SO THAT WE CAN GET IT AS CLOSE TO RIGHT AS WE CAN, KNOWING THAT WE CAN'T MEET EVERYONE'S NEEDS, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO, WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR, WHO SHOULD THAT BE? DO WE OFFER DIGITAL LITERACY CLASSES? SO WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO, UM, OUR TELE REGULATORY AFFAIRS OFFICE ABOUT THEIR CONTRACT.

LIKE WHAT TYPE OF CONTRACTS DO YOU HAVE? WE CAN TAP IN TO HELP PEOPLE AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS, BUT OPEN TO ANY AND ALL SUGGESTIONS AS I TOLD THE HISPANIC QUALITY OF LIFE.

MM-HMM.

, THANK YOU.

THAT, UH, SOUNDS LIKE THE PERFECT APPROACH, AND THANK YOU FOR TALKING WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONS ABOUT IT.

UM, AND SO I HAVE KIND OF A QUESTION FOR PAT.

IF, SO, IF THE, THE TECH DEPARTMENT THAT'S WORKING ON THIS, IF THEY DO AB TESTING, SO SO FURTHER TESTING BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY ROLL IT OUT AGAIN, DO YOU THINK THAT, UM, SOME OF THE MUSICIANS IN YOUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO DO LIKE, YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTES SIT, SIT DOWN FOR 30 MINUTES AND DO AB TESTING SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND, LIKE, IS IT BETTER TO ASK THE QUESTION THIS WAY OR THAT WAY? IS THIS CONFUSING? IS IT BETTER TO HAVE LIKE A DROPDOWN OR RADIO BUTTON? LIKE, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY? AND THEN THAT WAY THOSE FOLKS GET LIKE A LITTLE PREVIEW ALSO, SO THERE'S SOME BENEFIT TO THEM.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT WAY TO INTERFACE WITH THE COMMUNITY IF POSSIBLE.

BUT STILL, NOVIA USUALLY IS LIKE SOLELY ROLL IN CHARLOTTE, SO THAT'S WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN.

GO AHEAD, .

NO, NO, NO.

UM, MY EQUITY AND INCLUSION PERSON SAID SOMETHING TODAY, AND SO I HEAR YOU ON THE TESTING, BUT DEPENDING ON THE TEST AND THE TEST QUESTIONS, WHOEVER THE TESTERS MAY GIVE THEM AN UPPER HAND THAT THEY'VE NOW BEEN USING THE TEST, THAT WAS SOMETHING HE BROUGHT UP.

I WAS JUST LIKE, OH, OKAY.

SO WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH ALL.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM.

, LIKE IF YOU'RE TESTING IN THE SYSTEM AND THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND WOULD WE ALLOW THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO THEN APPLY? JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED.

I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY WAYS TO WORK AROUND IT.

RIGHT? SO I GUESS MY QUESTION REALLY WAS TO PAT, LIKE, IF THAT'S AN OPTION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

COULD YOU, CAN YOU HELP GATHER SOME, SOME FOLKS TO HELP POSSIBLY , RIGHT? YEAH.

AND SOME, YEAH.

UM, YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST, UM, VALUABLE THINGS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE THIS 5,000 PLUS CENTRAL TEXAS MUSICIAN MEMBERSHIP IS THAT WE DO HAVE THAT CAPTIVE, UH, FOCUS GROUP.

AND, AND THEY GIVE US INFORMATION ALL THE TIME.

NOT JUST ABOUT THIS, BUT ABOUT A MILLION OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT AFFECT OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY.

UH, WE HAVE OUR MUSICIANS ADVISORY PANEL, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, 30 PLUS SCREAM OF THE CROP MUSICIANS WHO ARE REALLY ACTIVE

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AND, UM, YOU KNOW, READY TO GIVE THOSE ANSWERS.

AND SO, UM, YEAH, WE'RE, WE, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT WORK AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT WORK.

SO WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED, UH, WE CAN PULL THOSE MUSICIANS TOGETHER AND, AND GIVE YOU, GIVE YOU THAT DETAILED FEEDBACK.

YEAH.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

I THINK, YEAH, AND I THINK THAT THIS, THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN TAPPING INTO, UH, UH, RESOURCES LIKE A D X M AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE KIND OF, UH, A MUSICIAN COMMUNITY BUILT AROUND AND, AND JUST, JUST, JUST GRASSROOTS REACHING OUT TO FOLKS AND GETTING FEEDBACK, UM, BEFORE WE ROLL THAT, ROLL THAT OUT AGAIN, UM, UM, IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS WELL.

UH, BUT ALSO WITHIN, WITHIN SOME, SOME TIME BOUNDARIES, SO WE CAN, WE ARE ABLE TO ROLL EVERYTHING OUT, UH, HOPEFULLY ON, ON, ON SCHEDULE NEXT YEAR.

UM, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM, UH, COMMISSIONERS ONLINE ON THE TOPIC OR HERE? I'VE GOT A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.

UH, AND, AND I, I, I GOT HERE LATE, SO, UM, APOLOGIZE IF YOU ALREADY SAID THIS, BUT, UM, HOW MANY MUSICIANS DID, DID WE, DID YOU HAVE ON THE, THE ACTUAL SURVEY OF THIS? DO YOU KNOW? YEAH, SCOTT, SO, UM, THE, UH, THE ACTUAL SURVEY WAS LAUNCHED, UH, JUST LAST WEEK.

SO THE SAMPLE SIZE IS A LITTLE SMALL STILL.

OKAY.

WE ARE GONNA KEEP THAT ROLLING THROUGHOUT THE NEXT MONTH, AND WE'VE BEEN PRO PROMOTING IT.

OKAY.

AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN EVERY, EVERY DAY, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT TO BUILD THAT SAMPLE SIZE, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT AS BIG AS WE'D LIKE, SO WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET A REALLY ACCURATE PICTURE OF, OF WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC IS.

OKAY.

UH, MAYBE THIS NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE GOOD.

MM-HMM.

, I'M NOT SURE, BUT, UH, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT THAT FILLED OUT THE SURVEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED OR DID NOT RECEIVE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND? YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT'S SARAH.

DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE? YOU NO, , UM, YEAH.

THAT, THAT QUESTION IS BUILT INTO THE SURVEY, UH, CORRECT.

YEAH.

UM, UH, IN, IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER QUALIFYING, UH, QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, RATINGS ON THE PROCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

UH, DO WE, IS THERE A RATIO OF HOW MANY, I MEAN, SEEING IS HOW, THIS IS MOSTLY NEGATIVE.

IS THERE LIKE A, LIKE A, A, A A, A PERCENTAGE OF APPROVAL VERSUS NOT APPROVAL? UM, WELL, ON THE APPROVAL, NOT QUITE YET.

OKAY.

I THINK ON THE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, WE DID PRESENT A, A PIE GRAPHIC THAT SHOWED 95%, UM, ACTUALLY, UM, HAD A NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

RIGHT.

AS OPPOSED TO 5% WHO, WHO SAW IT FAVORABLY.

THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST THE APPLICATION.

AND I WILL SAY THAT THAT, UM, EVEN SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL COMMENT COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS READ, THOSE GUYS CAME BACK LATER WHEN THEY RECEIVED THEIR AWARDS AND HAD GLOWING PRAISE TO OFFER.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

YEAH.

I'M JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, IS, IS IS IT BIASED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THE AWARD OR IS IT BIASED BECAUSE THEY DID OR SOMETHING THAT WELL, THAT WAS EARLY IN THE PROCESS, AND I THINK AS WE PARSE, YOU KNOW, PARSE THIS INFORMATION OUT A PIECE AT A TIME, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE APPLICATION PROCESS, BUT THIS SURVEY WILL GATHER KIND OF THE BIGGER PICTURE ON GUIDELINES, AWARDS, THAT SORT OF THING.

OKAY.

SO, SO THE BASELINE FOR RIGHT NOW IS JUST NOT GOOD, ESSENTIALLY ON THE APPLICATION.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

WE COULD SAY THAT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK, UM, UM, YEAH, WE'LL JUST, UH, KEEP COLLECTING FEEDBACK.

IT'LL BE, IT'S GREAT, UM, IF, UH, FROM THE, WE HEAR MORE FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND, UH, MR. NOVIA, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR AND YOUR DEPARTMENT'S ATTENTION TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE NEXT STEPS AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN TERMS OF GETTING THE CONSULTANT AND THEN LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM ITSELF, THE USER EXPERIENCE.

SO, UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, UH, UM, I THINK, YEAH, I, I LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM TO SEE WHAT, UH, WHAT SOME OF THE OUTCOMES, UH, UM, ARE LOOKING LIKE.

SO IF, UH, NOBODY ELSE HAS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, WE CAN MOVE ON.

OKAY.

UM, MOVING ON

[4. Discussion and possible action on Live Music Fund Event Program following update by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division.]

TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM.

FOLLOWING UPDATE BY ERICA SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, UH, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.

THANK YOU.

PAT.

SARAH? HELLO.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.

SORRY THAT I'M NOT JOINING YOU IN PERSON BECAUSE OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING.

THIS IS A KID WEEK, SO I HAD BUSES AND, YOU KNOW, PICKUPS AND ALL OF THAT.

SO I AM GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

I ASSUME I JUST USE THE SHARE OPTION FOR WEBEX, IS THAT CORRECT, KIM? OKAY, I THINK I FIND THIS.

SO JUST LET ME KNOW IF, UH, WHEN YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING, YOU SHOULD

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BE ABLE TO SHARE SCREEN.

OKAY.

ARE Y'ALL, CAN YOU SEE WHAT I HAVE? YES, YES, YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

YEAH, SORRY.

YEAH, YOU'RE NOT HERE.

I'M, I, YOU'RE, YOU'RE HERE, BUT YOU'RE NOT HERE.

I'M SORRY.

WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

UH, SO YOU CAN FIND THIS DATA DASHBOARD ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND WEBPAGE.

SO IF YOU GO TO ATX MUSIC.ORG, CLICK ON THE ICON THAT SAYS LIVE MUSIC FUND.

IT WILL TAKE YOU TO THIS DATA DASHBOARD.

YOU CAN EITHER LOOK AT IT WITHIN THE PAGE OR YOU CAN CLICK ON THE SUMMARY DASHBOARD LINK AND IT TAKES YOU TO THIS VERSION OF IT.

IT'S THE SAME THING.

IT'S JUST BIGGER AND EASIER TO SEE.

SO WE HAVE THREE PAGES OF THE DATA, UM, SHOWING OVERALL ABOUT APPLICANTS AS WELL AS AWARDEES.

AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 660 APPLICANTS.

IF, AND AS YOU CLICK ON ANY OF THESE THINGS, YOU CAN DRILL DOWN, SEE HOW MY CURSOR IS OVER THE, THIS ONE ELEMENT, IT SAYS, PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN, IT'S 527 OF THE 666.

I MEAN, OF THE 660 APPLICATIONS, IF YOU CLICK OVER HERE, HOVER YOUR CURSOR, INDEPENDENT PROMOTER, THAT WAS 133 APPLICATIONS.

AND SO AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS DATA DASHBOARD, AND I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH EVERY LITTLE ELEMENT WITH YOU TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE LINK, UH, THE PUBLIC HAS THE LINK, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO GO THROUGH AND JUST INTERACT WITH IT.

IF YOU COULD SPEND LIKE AN HOUR AND A HALF INTERACTING WITH THIS DATA.

SO I'LL JUST TAKE YOU THROUGH WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU.

UM, SO THIS IS FOR ALL APPLICANTS.

WE HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHIC, UH, BREAKOUT OF THE, UH, DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE APPLICANTS AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL DISTRICT OF THEIR RESIDENTS, UM, AS WELL AS GENDER AND, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY, MEMBERS OF THE L G B T Q I A COMMUNITY.

AND PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THESE NUMBERS MAY NOT DIRECTLY ALWAYS ADD UP TO SIX 60 OR TO THE NUMBER OF AWARDEES, WHICH IS 360 8, BECAUSE, UM, PEOPLE WOULD SAY ALSO PREFER NOT TO ANSWER.

IT WASN'T REQUIRED THAT YOU HAD TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND SO THIS IS SHOWING YOU WHO DID ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

AND SO HERE'S JUST A SNAPSHOT OF ALL APPLICANTS.

IF I GO TO THE SECOND PAGE, THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE AWARDS.

IT'S JUST LOADING UP HERE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE 368 AWARDED APPLICATIONS.

AND AS I CLICK ON IT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE APPLICANT TYPE UNDER 3.5 MILLION PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, 302 PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AWARDED 66 INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS AWARDED.

WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MANY WOULD LIKE TO USE A CULTURAL FACILITY AS A VENUE.

UM, AND ALSO, AGAIN, IF YOU HOVER THE CURSOR OVER ANY OF THESE COLORFUL ELEMENTS, IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE PERCENTAGES ARE OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO WORK IN THE AFRICAN HAIR, AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT, UM, HERE, GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER MUSEUM.

IT SHOWS YOU EXACTLY HOW MANY PROPOSALS AND WHAT THE PERCENTAGE WAS OVERALL.

AND THIS IS OF THE AWARDED GROUP.

UH, AND SO WITH EACH ONE, YOU CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH AND SEE INFORMATION, UH, WHEN YOU HOVER YOUR CURSOR OVER EVERY ELEMENT OF THE DASHBOARD.

AND SO, IN TERMS OF WHAT TYPES OF PROJECTS, UH, PEOPLE APPLIED FOR, SOME OF THE THINGS WERE AN EVENT, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS WERE AN EVENT AND MERCH, LIKE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO APPLY FOR JUST ONE ELEMENT.

YOU COULD APPLY FOR SEVERAL THINGS IF THE FIVE TO $10,000 AWARD WOULD, UH, COVER THAT.

SO WE HAVE, UM, 217 EVENTS, UM, 28 ONLINE EVENTS.

UH, 'CAUSE IT COULD BE BOTH.

UH, THEN 111 VERSIONS OF LIKE MERCHANDISE, LIKE WHETHER IT'S CASSETTE RECORDS, T-SHIRTS, MUSIC 182, MUSIC PRODUCTIONS, 180 RECORDING STUDIO PRODUCTIONS.

AND I DON'T HAVE, UH, THIS IS THIS THING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MOVE THIS THING, UM, FOR WEBEX, BUT 126, I THINK THIS WAS DISTRIBUTION.

AND SO ALSO, IF YOU LOOK UNDERNEATH THE AWARDED PROPOSALS WITH THE ZIP CODES, AS YOU REMEMBER, NOT ALL PROJECTS HAD TO HAVE THEIR ADDRESS CONFIRMED, YOU KNOW, OR THE LOCATION CONFIRMED BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CATCH 22, SOMETIMES YOU NEED THE FUNDS IN ORDER TO CONFIRM THINGS.

SOME THINGS FALL THROUGH, MAYBE IT'S JUST NOT TIME TO CONFIRM SOMETHING IF IT'S SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO INFER EITHER WITH PEOPLE THAT HAD CONFIRMED LOCATIONS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING, I'M HOPING TO DO IT HERE OR HERE.

SO THIS MAP RIGHT HERE REPRESENTS THAT.

UH, AND AGAIN, IF YOU HOVER OVER EACH, UH, BUBBLE, UH, ON THIS MAP, IT TELLS YOU WHAT THE ZIP CODE IS AND HOW MANY, UH, PROPOSED PROJECTS ARE IN THAT ZIP CODE.

UH, THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS WITHIN THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL,

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UH, JURISDICTION OF THE, THE CENTRAL TEXAS OF AUSTIN.

UM, YOU COULD BE IN THE M S A, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, WHICH IS THE OVERALL CENTRAL TEXAS AREA TO APPLY, BUT THE PROJECT HAS TO TAKE PLACE IN THE E T J OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND SO, GOING OVER TO THE NEXT PAGE, THIS IS ALSO JUST BREAKING DOWN MORE CLEARLY THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE WHO ARE AWARDED AND THOSE THAT WERE DECLINED.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU HOVER YOUR CURSOR OVER ANY ELEMENT OF THESE PIE CHARTS, YOU'LL SEE EXACTLY HOW MANY AWARDEES, UH, OR OF A CERTAIN GROUP, UM, HOW MANY, UM, OF COURSE WITH THIS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE SAME INFORMATION.

AND SO I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO GO THROUGH THIS DASHBOARD AND JUST SPEND SOME TIME LOOKING.

UH, I FEEL LIKE IN TERMS OF THE POINT OF THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES, YES, IT IS TO, TO SUPPORT THE MUSIC, UH, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS HERE IN AUSTIN, BUT THE MAIN FOCUS WAS FOR PIE PRESERVATION, INNOVATION, ELEVATION COLLABORATION.

IT WAS TO PRIORITIZE THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT WOULD LEAD TO A MORE DIVERSE MUSIC INDUSTRY HERE IN AUSTIN.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN REALLY KIND OF DIG IN AND SEE THAT THE DATA SHOWS THAT WE GOT WHERE WE WANTED TO GO IN TERMS TERMS OF REPRESENTATION OF APPLICANTS AS WELL AS AWARDEES.

IT WAS A VERY DIVERSE GROUP ACROSS ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOLKS, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF GENRES, UH, DOING ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS.

SO NOT JUST EVENTS.

UM, YOU COULD APPLY FOR ANY TYPE OF PROJECT.

UM, I AGREE THAT WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A WHOLE RUNNING LIST OF IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS WAS THE PILOT YEAR.

WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE UPDATES AND CHANGES TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER.

AND SO WE HAVE, I MEAN, WE HEAR YOU AND WE AGREE ON A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE APPLICATION PROCESS, MAKE THE QUESTIONS MORE CLEAR, UH, DO A BETTER JOB OF ALSO JUST EX EXPLAINING, RE-EXPLAINING PI, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, US AS COMING TOGETHER FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AND SEEING HOW WE WANTED TO FORM THESE GUIDELINES SO THAT ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE OUR GOAL IS AS A MORE DIVERSE AND EQUITABLE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN.

AND SO I APPRECIATE, UM, THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM A TX MUSICIANS, AND I, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING HERE.

I MEAN, THIS WAS THE PILOT YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

WE NEED ALL THE FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE PROGRAM FOR F Y 24, AND WE'LL KEEP IMPROVING IT EVERY YEAR.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S EVER GOING TO BE A STATIC SET OF GUIDELINES.

THOSE WERE THE GUIDELINES FOR F Y 23.

NOW WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THE GUIDELINES IMPROVING ON F Y 23 FOR F Y 24, AND I'M GONNA STOP SHARING MY SCREEN AND, UM, AND SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, ERICA.

UM, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.

THE, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR, UH, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK, UM, AND RIPPLE THAT OUT TO EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED WITH THIS PROCESS OVER THE LAST, UM, QUITE A FEW YEARS.

AND, UM, AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY EXCITING WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS FINALLY COME TO FRUITION.

AND, UM, UH, IT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL THING.

SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING THE FEEDBACK.

UM, ALL, ALL OF OUR STAFF AND WONDERFUL PEOPLE, AND, UM, THANKS FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN SO FAR.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? UH, COMMISSIONER ADE, UH, I ECHO COMMISSIONER GOULD'S, UH, SENTIMENTS.

I COMPLETELY AGREE.

IT WA IT WA IT'S REALLY, UM, WHAT A, WHAT A FORTUNATE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE IN THAT ARE DISPERSING THESE INCREDIBLE GRANTS, UM, AND SUPPORTIVE OF OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY.

AND, AND ALSO JUST A BIG SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE, THE TECHNOLOGY, UM, ERICA SHALE, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THAT.

THAT LOOKS VERY, VERY, VERY