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LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED, UM,

[CALL TO ORDER]

SEPTEMBER 20TH, UH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

WE ARE UP AT 63 10 WILHELMINA DELCO DRIVE.

UM, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING ROLL CALL, UM, FER HERE.

THANK YOU.

KRUEGER.

HERE.

VERY HERE.

BERG HERE.

CRYSTAL HERE.

SHERA HERE.

REMER HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND COMMISSIONER QURESHI, DO YOU WANT TO GET CREDIT FOR BEING HERE AT ROLL CALL? YEAH.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST A SILHOUETTE OF ME AND NOT ACTUALLY ME, I'M, I'M STILL HERE.

WE, WE, YOUR VOICE HAS BEEN AUTHENTICATED.

YOU ARE CONFIRMED.

PRESENT.

APPRECIATE.

TURN OFF MY BOND.

UH, UM, ALL RIGHT.

UH, THE FIRST

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ITEM IS APPROVE THE MEETING, UH, MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 6TH.

HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO GLANCE AT THESE? ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

SECOND BY BRIMER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES ALL THOSE AGAINST ALL THOSE ABSTAINING.

ALL RIGHT.

KRUGER AND I ABSTAINED.

SIX FOUR.

MOTION CARRIES.

THEY'RE APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, NEXT ITEM IS THE STAFF

[2. Staff briefing regarding the Austin Energy Transportation Electrification Implementation Overview – Cameron Freberg, Austin Energy. Requested by Environmental Commissioner Qureshi]

BREEDING BRIEFING REGARDING THE AUSTIN ENERGY TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION IMPLEMENTATION OVERVIEW.

UH, THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.

UM, UH, YEAH, UH, PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND WE'RE EXCITED, UH, FOR AN UPDATE.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, SORRY, HIT THE BUTTON THERE TO THE GREEN LIGHT'S ON.

UH, THERE WE GO.

PERFECT.

MY, THERE'S MY IT PROWE.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, SO GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER.

MY NAME IS CAMERON FREEBERG.

I AM THE MANAGER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES, AUSTIN ENERGY.

UH, I WANNA LEAD OFF BY SAYING THIS IS THE BEST BANTER AMONG COMMISSIONERS I'VE EVER SEEN.

UH, SO THAT MAKES ME SMILE.

UM, SO, UM, TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, AND SOME OF THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES SET FORTH THERE, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR STRATEGY IS AUSTIN ENERGY AND GETTING ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION OUT THERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, A A LITTLE BACKGROUND JUST ON THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

UH, I DO REALIZE THERE'S A LOT OF TEXT ON THIS SLIDE, BUT I JUST WANNA GIVE AN OVERVIEW ON WHERE TRANSPORTATION EXISTS WITHIN THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, UH, WHAT THE THREE MAJOR GOALS ARE, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO SOME OF THE STRATEGIES, UH, SET FORTH BY THOSE GOALS IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

BUT OUR BIG OVERARCHING GOAL THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST AUSTIN ENERGY SET, NOT JUST THE CITY GOVERNMENT SET, BUT THE, UH, COMMUNITY WIDE EFFORT TO CREATE THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN WAS TO, UH, GET TO 40% OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED TO BE ALL ELECTRIC THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, SO THAT IS A PRETTY LOFTY GOAL.

THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRIC BUS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE ELECTRIC BIKE OR THE ELECTRIC SCOOTER.

SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT INDIVIDUAL VEHICLE OWNERSHIP THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, AN INDIVIDUAL OWNING THEIR OWN CAR, PARKED IN THEIR OWN GARAGE.

IT'S ALL FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, IS THE WAY THAT WE SCOPED, UM, TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION IN THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

UH, I ALSO WANNA GIVE THE CAVEAT, SOMETIMES I WILL TALK REALLY FAST, SO PLEASE JUST SIGNAL, SIGNAL ME IF I, UH, DO THAT TOO MUCH.

WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP YOU HONEST.

THANKS.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE FIRST MAJOR GOAL, IS GETTING TO 40% VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.

UH, THAT'S ROUGHLY OVER 400,000 EVS IN THE CITY.

IF WE, IF WE THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF VEHICLE ADOPTION, UH, THE SECOND MAJOR GOAL THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN FOR TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION WAS ALL THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED TO SUPPORT THIS.

SO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, WE'RE TALKING THE MAGNITUDE OF 226 MEGAWATTS.

SO I WORK FOR A UTILITY, SO THAT NUMBER MEANS A LOT TO ME.

UM, AND THAT'S A VERY MEASURABLE THING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT, I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, AROUND 26,000 CHARGING PORTS OR SOMETHING TO SUPPORT THAT KIND OF, UH, ADOPTION.

SO IT'S A VERY HIGH THRESHOLD OF CHARGING NEEDED IN THE CITY, UH, TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE THE KIND OF ADOPTION.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT CHARGING, THAT CAN MEAN MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

UM, AND THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED LEVEL ONE, LEVEL TWO, AND THEN DC FAST CHARGING LEVEL ONE CHARGING IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU SEE ON THE FLOOR HERE.

ALL THESE LAPTOPS PLUGGED INTO, IT'S YOUR TYPICAL 110 VOLT OUTLET.

A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS MAY USE IT OVERNIGHT FOR IN THEIR GARAGE, STUFF LIKE THAT.

LEVEL TWO CHARGING IS WHAT YOU SEE MOSTLY OUT IN THE PUBLIC.

AND THEN DC FAST CHARGING ARE THE LARGER REFRIGERATOR SIZED CHARGERS THAT, UH, IS KIND OF THE GAS STATION MODEL.

SO IT'S GONNA BE A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

AND THE REASON WE HAVE THAT METRIC OF 226 MEGAWATTS, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST AN ELECTRICAL TERM

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IS A 350 KILOWATT FAST CHARGER THAT CAN RECHARGE YOUR VEHICLE IN JUST MINUTES, UH, SHOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY COUNTED THE SAME AS LIKE 110 VOLT OUTLETS.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN MEASURE, UH, FASTER CHARGING AND HOW MUCH IT BENEFITS THE PUBLIC VERSUS SLOWER CHARGING.

AND THE THIRD GOAL IS REALLY ABOUT MAINTAINING LEADERSHIP IN THE SPACE, UH, OF ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION IN THE, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND IN THE REGION.

SO THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, POLICIES TO SUPPORT, UH, UH, EV OWNERSHIP HERE ALSO INCLUDES THINGS LIKE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT ONE'S REALLY MORE OF A, A BROADER INITIATIVE TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN LEADERSHIP STATUS.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, I CAME PREPARED WITH A FEW RECOMMENDED DISCUSSION POINTS THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH OTHER COMMISSIONS.

AND SO WE CAN ADDRESS THINGS LIKE THE HIGHEST IMPACT ON EMISSIONS, THE HIGHEST IMPACT ON EQUITY, UM, SOME OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT'S STILL OUT THERE, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE BARRIERS AND CHALLENGES WE FACE.

UM, SO WITH THAT, SUCH A LOFTY GOAL OF 40% VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE A BIT WHERE WE'RE AT.

I MEAN, I'D SAY WE'RE PROBABLY 1% OR LESS RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO GETTING THAT NUMBER IS GONNA REQUIRE QUITE A BIG SHIFT HERE.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THOSE FOUR PRE-IDENTIFIED QUESTIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, AND, UH, I WANTED TO BRING THEM TO THIS COMMISSION AS WELL.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, UH, PRIOR TO GOING INTO THOSE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY, UM, I WANNA GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND STATUS OF NOT JUST WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF ADOPTION, BUT ALSO IN SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND, UH, THINGS THAT THE CITY'S DOING TO PROMOTE THIS.

SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY CLOSER TO AROUND 40,000 EVS HERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO, UM, THAT 35,000, THAT'S A FEW SHORT MONTHS AGO.

SO THE ADOPTION CURVE IS SPIKING QUITE A BIT.

UH, THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLE MODELS ON THE MARKET IS BECOMING GREATER AND GREATER.

PRETTY MUCH EVERY MAJOR AUTO MANUFACTURER EITHER HAS EVS, UH, IN THE PIPELINE, THEY'RE CURRENTLY PRODUCING 'EM, OR THEY FULLY COMMITTED TO ELECTRIFYING THEIR ENTIRE FLEET TO THEM.

SO EVERY MANUFACTURER'S IN, IN THOSE, I BELIEVE IT'S 12 OR SO BULLET POINTS THAT ARE REPRESENTED ON THAT GRAPH IS DEFINITELY NOT ALL INCLUSIVE.

ALL THE MODELS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED IN THIS CITY.

SO, UH, WE'RE AT 40,000 NOW.

I, WHEN I STARTED AUSTIN ENERGY, I REMEMBER WHEN WE GOT OUR 100TH EV AND I THOUGHT, WELL, WE'VE MADE IT.

WE HAVE A HUNDRED.

UM, SO, UM, THAT, THAT IS GROWING EVEN MORE RAPID, UH, AS, AS WE KEEP GOING.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, THE WAY THAT WE LOOK AT AND THE WAY WE APPROACH ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION IS REALLY ALL STAGED AROUND FIVE DIFFERENT PILLARS OF SUPPORT.

UM, THE FIRST BEING CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE EV ADOPTION HERE IN AUSTIN.

UM, AND THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY.

AND ONE THING I HAVE LEARNED IS THAT HAVING INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE WITHOUT VEHICLES, UH, MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY ANNOYING AT MOST.

'CAUSE PEOPLE SAY THEY DON'T GET USED.

BUT HAVING VEHICLES WITHOUT INFRASTRUCTURE IS FAR MORE PAINFUL AND FAR HARDER TO CATCH UP ON.

UH, THE SECOND ONE IS EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THINGS, YOU KNOW, WHERE EVERYTHING WE CATER TO IS NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL OWNING THE INDIVIDUAL CAR PARKED IN THE INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL GARAGE, BUT REALLY SUPPORTING EVERYTHING, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT MODEL.

BUT ALSO TO INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM, ELECTRIFICATION OF, UH, E-BIKES AND SUPPORT FOR THAT GROWTH.

UM, AND REALLY KIND OF EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN THERE.

UH, THE THIRD PILLAR OF OUR IS FLEETS AND NEW MOBILITY.

AND I'LL GO INTO THESE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH AS WELL, UM, WHERE WE, WHERE WE SEE FLEET GROWTH AND PEOPLE CHANGING THEIR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE CITY.

AND THEN THE FINAL TWO ARE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.

SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PROMOTE THIS, PROVIDE THAT EDUCATION, PROVIDE THAT OUTREACH, LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHAT RESOURCE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

AND THEN FINALLY, FINALLY, SINCE UH, WE ARE A UTILITY THAT, UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, HIGH SENSITIVITY, HIGH SENSITIVITY TO THAT, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S DONE IN A THOUGHTFUL MANNER.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO ON THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE, THE WAYS THAT WE'VE SUPPORTED THIS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS PROVIDED, UH, INCENTIVES AND REBATES AND THEN ACTIVELY PUT OUT INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO WE HAVE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE REBATE PROGRAMS FOR BOTH HOME AND PUBLIC CHARGING.

UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OVER 1600 LEVEL TWO CHARGING PORTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAT ARE PART OF AUSTIN ENERGY'S PROGRAM.

UH, THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A THOUSAND OTHERS THAT ARE OUT THROUGH, OUT THERE THROUGH THE CITY, THROUGH PRIVATE INVESTMENT, WHICH IS GREAT.

WE LOVE SEEING THAT, UH, THERE'S NOW BUSINESS MODELS FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.

UH, SO I THINK THAT'S A HUGE SHIFT IN THE MARKET AND GLAD TO SEE THAT, UH, THERE'S THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT HAPPENING HERE AS WELL.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, A PLUGIN EVERYWHERE DRIVER PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE PROVIDE ACCESS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT'S THROUGH A SUBSCRIPTION TO THOSE 1600 PLUS CHARGE, OR ALSO THAT NUMBER IS NOW 1600 CHARGING PORTS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, WHERE DRIVERS WILL HAVE A SEAMLESS USER EXPERIENCE, PAY THE SAME PRICE AT ALL THOSE STATIONS, UM, AND HAVE A SINGULAR WAY TO ACCESS ALL OF THOSE CHARGING PORT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THEN FINALLY, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE DID OUR FIRST,

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UH, LAUNCH OF DC FAST CHARGING HERE.

WE PUT OUT 30 THROUGH A, UH, 30 DC FAST CHARGERS THROUGH A SERIES OF GRANTS THROUGH THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

UM, THOSE ARE PLACED ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, USUALLY IN BANKS OF TWO TO FOUR STATIONS, SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE SOME REDUNDANCY ON SITE WHEN YOU GO VISIT ONE, UH, IN CASE THERE'S OUTAGE.

UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO FURTHER EXPAND THAT TO SOME GRANT EFFORTS AS WELL.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO ON THE EQUITY AFFORDABILITY SIDE, UM, I MENTIONED THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING, UM, NOT JUST OTHER KIND OF VEHICLES BESIDES TRADITIONAL EVS, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, WE DO HAVE INCENTIVES FOR E-BIKES THAT COME THROUGH.

BOTH AUSTIN ENERGY AND THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS A CO-FUNDED EFFORT BETWEEN THE TWO CITY DEPARTMENTS.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER IS, BUT I COULD TELL YOU THAT MY REBATE BUDGET AMOUNT SPECIFIC TO E-BIKES IS, UH, DEEPLY IN THE RED.

UH, BECAUSE UPTAKE HAS BEEN SO HIGH ON E-BIKES OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, WHICH IS GREAT TO SEE THAT REBATE'S RECENTLY BEEN DOUBLED.

SO IT WAS $300 FOR THE BETTER PART OF EIGHT OR NINE YEARS.

AND THEN LAST YEAR THROUGH THAT JOINT EFFORT, THAT REBATE AMOUNT BECAME $600.

AND THEN WE ACTUALLY HAD A SPECIALIZED INCENTIVE FOR CAP CUSTOMERS OR CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM CUSTOMERS THAT WE HAVE THAT NEED BILL ASSISTANCE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A REBATE OF UP TO $1,300 FOR THE ADOPTION OF AN E-BIKE AS WELL.

UH, WE ALSO DO LOTS OF, YOU KNOW, TARGET TARGETING OUTREACH AND EDUCATION AND PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, FOR SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES AS WELL.

UM, WHAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT HERE IS OUR EVS FOR FOR SCHOOLS PROGRAM, WHERE, UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UH, LOCAL NONPROFIT ECO RISE, UM, AS WELL AS AUSTIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ON GETTING EV CHARGING AT MULTIPLE SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AS WELL AS CREATING ACTUAL CURRICULUM ALONGSIDE ECOWISE THAT CAN BE USED AS PART OF AN EDUCATIONAL LIVING LAB FOR, UH, STUDENTS AND TEACHERS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST THE A I S D ANYMORE, IT'S BEEN ADOPTED, UH, AT A LOT OF SCHOOLS, ACTUALLY NATIONWIDE, THAT HAVE TAKEN THAT KIND OF CURRICULUM AND PLATFORM AND BROUGHT IT INTO THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, CURRICULUM THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, THE THIRD PILLAR, UH, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS REAL QUICK IS FLEET'S NO MOBILITY.

UM, AND JUST 'CAUSE THERE MIGHT NOT BE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS AWARE IS, UH, OUR OWN CITY OF AUSTIN'S, UH, FLEET SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS MAKING A LARGE EFFORT TO ELECTRIFY THEIR FLEET.

UM, THEY HAVE NOW OVER 275 EVS.

I'D SAY THAT NUMBER IS LIKELY HIGHER THAN THAT BY NOW.

UM, IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL TO THEM.

SO I WANNA SAY IT WAS OVER A 10,000,010 YEAR PERIOD.

WE ESTIMATED AROUND $3.5 MILLION IN SAVINGS ON FUEL AND MAINTENANCE.

UM, SO FAR IN THE FIVE YEARS THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS, THESE CONVERSIONS ON THAT TIMELINE, THEY'RE ALREADY SEEING 50% GREATER SAVINGS THAN ANTICIPATED OVER THAT.

UM, NOT JUST FROM THE FUEL SIDE, BUT A LOT OF IT'S JUST FROM THE MAINTENANCE SIDE AS WELL AND JUST THE FREQUENCY THEY NEED 'EM.

UH, AND IT'S ALL BEEN LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES TO DATE.

SO YOUR NISSAN LEAFS, UM, YOUR, YOUR CHEVY BOLTS, THEY HAVE A HEAVY PRESENCE THOSE, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE MOVING INTO MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS WELL AS SOON AS THE OPERATIONAL AVAILABILITY OR OPERATIONAL NEEDS ARE MET BY WHAT'S PRODUCED ON THE MARKET THERE.

UM, AND THEN ANOTHER PARTNER OF OURS THAT WE WORK WITH QUITE A BIT IS CAPITAL METRO.

UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH PROJECT CONNECT, UH, VERY LARGE, UH, INVESTMENT IN OUR MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM.

AND PART OF THAT IS TO INCLUDE, UH, ALTERNATIVE FUELS AND EMISSION FREE VEHICLES.

SO, UM, ELECTRIC BUSES ARE A HUGE PART OF THEIR PORTFOLIO.

UM, THEY ALREADY HAVE 12 IN THEIR FLEET.

THEY'VE COMMITTED TO ANOTHER 200 ON ORDER.

UM, AND WE'VE GOTTEN TO WORK WITH THEM ON SOME OF THEIR CHARGING AND FUELING INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD OUTS TO INCLUDE THEIR NORTH OPS.

UM, IN NORTH AUSTIN IS KIND OF WHERE THEY HAVE BUSES PARKED THERE.

AND WHEN THEY DID A BIG RENOVATION ON THAT LOT, WE CONVERTED THAT TO A CHARGING DEPOT FOR THEIR BUSES AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, FOURTH PILLAR IS AROUND OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY AS A RESOURCE AS WELL.

UH, WE DO HAVE AN EV BUYER'S GUIDE THAT IS, UM, INTENDED TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH LOCAL DEALERSHIPS TO HAVE AN INVENTORY OF BOTH NEW AND USED VEHICLES, UH, ALL ELECTRIC THAT WE CAN HIGHLIGHT FROM THOSE DEALERSHIPS.

UH, AS A REAL-TIME INVENTORY CUSTOMERS CAN ACCESS, UH, IT IS AVAILABLE ENGLISH IN SPANISH AND AS WELL, IT ALSO INCLUDES EVERYTHING IN THERE FROM THE INCENTIVES THAT YOU NEED, WHERE THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE IS.

AND THEN KIND OF SOME COMPARISONS WITH, UH, TYPICAL INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE VEHICLES AS WELL TO KIND OF DO A COMPARISON SIDE BY SIDE.

UH, THE SECOND ONE I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT, JUST BECAUSE IT'S COMING UP IN A FEW SHORT MONTHS, IS THE ELECTRIFY EXPO.

THAT IS A VERY LARGE OUTREACH EVENT, ONLY ABOUT ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION, ONLY ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

UH, 10 YEARS AGO, I SUSPECT WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE GOTTEN DOZENS OF ATTENDEES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, 'CAUSE INTEREST MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN THAT HIGH, BUT LAST YEAR, UH, THERE WERE OVER 13,000 VISITORS JUST THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE.

UM, IT IS HAPPENING AGAIN OUT THERE AT THE CIRCUIT OF THE AMERICAS TRACK, UM, NOVEMBER 11TH AND 12TH, I BELIEVE, OF THIS YEAR.

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UM, SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE HAVING ACTIVE RIDE AND DRIVES THERE, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH EVERY VEHICLE MANUFACTURED THERE TO BASICALLY GET PEOPLE IN FRONT OF THE VEHICLES, GET THEM TO RIDE THEM.

THERE'S ALSO TONS OF, UH, E-BIKE SCOOTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THERE WAS EVEN AN ELECTRIC BOAT OUT THERE LAST YEAR.

UH, SO, UM, WE DIDN'T TEST DRIVE THAT ANYWHERE, UM, BUT THEY EXIST.

UM, AND THEN I, I ALREADY MENTIONED THE EV FOR SCHOOL STUFF PREVIOUSLY, BUT THAT'S JUST ANOTHER PART OF THAT OUTREACH AND EDUCATION EFFORTS THAT WE DO AS WELL.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN FINALLY, UH, SELFISHLY I DO WANNA TALK ABOUT GRID INTEGRATION BECAUSE IT IS A, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR PORTFOLIO.

UH, SO WE'VE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING FROM TIME OF USE RATES.

SO BASICALLY WE WENT TO AVOID, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VEHICLES COMING IN, PLUGGING IT AT 5:00 PM I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL SEEN THE ALERTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS ABOUT ENERGY CONSERVATION AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STRAND ON THE GRID AND, AND WHAT THAT MEANS.

AND SO WHEN WE THINK OF EVS, THE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE TRADITIONAL ELECTRIC LOAD WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH IN TEXAS, IT'S ALL DRIVEN BY HEAT.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT BASICALLY WE ARE, IT'S VERY PREDICTABLE WHEN IT'S 105.

EVERY AC UNIT IN THE CITY IS GOING TO BE RUNNING OR THE STATE, UH, EVS ARE AS MUCH OF AN OPPORTUNITY AS THEY'RE A THREAT IN THIS SENSE, BECAUSE YEAH, THEY CAN ADD SIGNIFICANT ELECTRICAL LOAD, BUT THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT 'EM THAT'S TIED TO TEMPERATURE.

SO IF YOU CAN EITHER DO INCENTIVIZED OFF PEAK PRICING FOR CHARGING OR EVEN, UH, WHAT WE CALL ACTIVE MANAGED CHARGING, UM, THAT'S TWO HUGE WAYS TO MITIGATE ANY OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, THREATS OF DEMAND.

SO WE'VE DONE TIME OF USE PRICING STRUCTURE, AND NOW WE'RE MOVING INTO MORE OF A MODEL, WHAT'S CALLED DEMAND RESPONSE.

UH, IT'S THE SAME WAY THAT WE WORK WITH CUSTOMERS TO CONTROL THERMOSTATS DURING THESE PEAK PERIODS AS WELL, WHERE YOU SIGN UP, YOU CAN BASICALLY ENROLL YOUR CHARGER WITH A PROGRAM FOR US.

WE INCENTIVIZE THAT, AND THEN YOU ALLOW US TO DO CURTAILMENTS BETWEEN THREE AND 7:00 PM OR PEAK PERIODS ON THE GRID TO, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE VEHICLES AREN'T CHARGING DURING THOSE TIMES WHEN EVERYONE ELSE IS ASKED TO CONSERVE.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST STRATEGY OF IT.

AND THEN SECONDARILY IS WHAT WE CALL VEHICLE TO GRID, WHERE VEHICLES ARE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PUSHING BACK ENERGY INTO THE HOME OR PASSED THE ELECTRIC METER AND ACTUALLY ONTO THE GRID TO ACT AS A ACTUAL RESOURCE.

UM, WE HAVE DONE A PILOT WITH THIS, UM, ALONGSIDE OUR PARTNERS PECAN STREET, WHO ARE, UH, EDUCATION LAB IN THE MUELLER NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ALL AROUND ENERGY, WATER, AND TRANSPORTATION.

UM, WE LAUNCHED A ALL IN AROUND 10 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR ENERGY STORAGE PROJECT A FEW YEARS BACK.

IT WAS ALL AROUND STATIONARY BATTERIES AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH SOLAR ON THE GRID.

UM, WE INCLUDED A VEHICLE TO GRID COMPONENT TO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ATTACH TO THE SOFTWARE STREAMS THAT SEND SIGNALS TO CHARGE AND DISCHARGE BATTERIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL COMPONENTS OF THAT WORK.

UH, SINCE THAT TIME, THAT TECHNOLOGY'S GOTTEN A LOT BETTER IN JUST FOUR YEARS IN TERMS OF THE HARDWARE AND, AND SOFTWARE THAT YOU NEED TO DO THAT.

SO THAT, THAT'S VERY ENCOURAGING TO SEE.

AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF VEHICLES COMING OFF THE MARKET RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU PURCHASE THEM THAT ARE ALREADY ENABLED TO DO, YOU KNOW, VEHICLE TO HOME OR POTENTIALLY EVEN VEHICLE TO GRID CAPABILITIES.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, BACK TO THOSE EARLIER QUESTIONS THAT I, I KIND OF HAD PREPARED FOR US AND THINGS WE WANNA ADDRESS AS PART OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLANS GOALS AND STRATEGIES IS REALLY AROUND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST EMISSION REDUCTION POTENTIAL WE SEE THROUGH THE STRATEGIES DEFINED IN THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

UM, THE TWO I THAT WE IDENTIFIED RIGHT OFF THE BAT WERE FLEET ELECTRIFICATION.

THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL LOCAL MILES.

THEY'RE TYPICALLY KIND OF, UH, LOW SPEED, NON-HIGH MILES, LOTS OF IDLE TIME.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE SEE ELECTRIFICATION.

A IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR A LOT OF THESE VEHICLES SINCE THEY'RE DOING MOSTLY CITY DRIVING, BUT ALSO THEY'RE MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES.

SO THEY'RE NOT JUST DISPLACING GASOLINE, THEY'RE DISPLACING DIESEL AS WELL.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT JUST THE REMOVAL OF C O TWO, BUT OTHER KINDS OF EMISSIONS, PARTICULAR MATTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE SEE A HIGH, UM, A HIGH IMPACT ON ACTUAL EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS HERE.

SO I ALREADY WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR SIDE BETWEEN CAPITAL METRO, THE CITY OF AUSTIN FLEET, AND THEN THERE'S SOME EVEN WORK THAT BEING DONE AT TRAVIS COUNTY.

BUT, UH, ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR SIDE, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF INTEREST IN VERY LARGE COMPANIES, ELECTRIFYING, THERE WERE A WHOLE FLEETS AS WELL.

SO THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS A FEW YEARS OLD NOW, BUT WITH AMAZON AND THE DELIVERY VEHICLES AND WHAT THEY, UH, COMMITTED TO THERE, UH, ALSO U P S AND OTHERS HAVE COMMITTED TO FULL FLEET ELECTRIFICATION.

AND WE KEEP A VERY CLOSE EYE ON THAT AND WE TRY TO WORK WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE GRID IMPACT PIECE.

UM, AND FOR INSTANCE, UH, LIKE A PARKING LOT HAS A FEW LIGHTS THERE, NOT MUCH ELECTRICAL DEMAND, NOT A BIG DEAL ON OUR SYSTEM.

BUT IF YOU CONVERT A PARKING LOT INTO AN ENTIRE CHARGING DEPOT THAT'S CHARGING, UH, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED TRUCKS AT VERY HIGH SPEEDS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COMBINATION OF A COUPLE LIKE HIGH RISES IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN IN TERMS THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICAL DEMAND.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE COGNIZANT OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

WE WORK PROACTIVELY WITH THEM TO,

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YOU KNOW, GET THEM ANY KIND OF LIKE DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAMS, UM, EDUCATE AROUND, UH, CHARGE MANAGEMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN AROUND THE SECOND GOAL, UH, SORRY, THOSE WERE ALL THE FIRST GOAL AROUND LIKE VEHICLE ADOPTION AROUND THE SECOND GOAL IN TERMS OF, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THIS, SOME OF THE HIGHEST EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS POTENTIAL IS AROUND CREATING A NETWORK OF LOW COST AND ACCESSIBLE CHARGING STATIONS.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SIMPLY THERE.

'CAUSE YOU NEED THAT TO SUPPORT THAT ADOPTION.

UH, WITHOUT, WITHOUT THAT KIND OF AN INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S VERY HARD TO HAVE THE ADOPTION HAPPEN HERE.

UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE IS MORE, UH, BENEFICIAL TO HAVING BEFORE THE OTHER, AND INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE VEHICLES IS MUCH MORE SO THAT WAY.

AND THE SECOND STRATEGY AROUND THAT IS FOR INCENTIVIZING INTERNET CONNECTED, SMART CHARGING.

SO IT THAT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET SORT OF THAT SOFTWARE LAYER ON THERE, YOU GET THOSE CONTROLS, UM, THERE IS THE GRID STABILITY PART THAT DOES MATTER A LOT, BUT THERE'S ALSO THINGS THAT YOU CAN TIE TO IT OTHER THAN JUST THAT.

SO WE CAN EVEN, UH, LOOK AT WAYS TO LOOK AT LIKE RENEW, LIKE THE RENEWABLE GENERATION ON THE GRID PORTFOLIO.

AND THEN YOU CAN EVEN, YOU KNOW, SEND THOSE KIND OF SIGNALS TO CHARGER POTENTIALLY TO CHARGE DURING HIGH, HIGH TIMES OF RENEWABLE GENERATION, UH, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ON SITE, LIKE THINGS LIKE SOLAR.

UM, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, FUTURE FACING, BUT THAT'S, WE WANNA HAVE THAT FUNDAMENTAL STUFF OF LIKE INTERCONNECTED SMART CHARGING IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO ENABLE THAT KIND OF STUFF IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS ONE'S AROUND THE HIGHEST EQUITY IMPACT POTENTIAL.

THIS IS KIND OF THE SECOND KIND OF PREDEFINED QUESTION THAT WE GOT FROM, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.

UM, SO THE FIRST ONE BEING, UH, CONDUCTING AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS, UH, WHERE WE WANT TO AVOID THE SITUATION WHERE WE GO DOWN A PATH, WE START DOING A PROGRAM OR PROJECT, AND THEN WE JUST DEFINE THAT AS A SUCCESS AND CONTINUE DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST AT HIGHER SCALE.

SO WE DO A, A LARGE AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ALREADY AS, UM, YOU KNOW, MOST CITY OF AUSTIN DEPARTMENTS DO, UM, SPECIFICALLY.

AND THEN WE DO SOME, A LOT AROUND, SPECIFICALLY AROUND EV CHARGING, AROUND EV ADOPTION.

UH, WE WORK WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS, UM, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS.

THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN ITSELF WAS A, AN EXERCISE OF DOING THAT AND EXTREMELY WELL FACILITATED BY THE STAFF THAT PUT THAT TOGETHER.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND ONE THAT WAS WE IDENTIFIED THERE IN TERMS OF EQUITY IMPACT POTENTIAL WAS THE LAUNCH OF AN E-BIKE AND ELECTRIC CAR SHARING PROGRAM.

SO, UH, THE, THROUGH THE WORK THAT, YOU KNOW, BIKE, UH, SORRY, UH, BIKE TEXAS HAS DONE IN TERMS OF PROVIDING E-BIKES IN THEIR FLEET, AS WELL AS THE EXPANSION OF CAPITAL METRO'S, UH, BIKE SHARE PROGRAM, TRANSITIONING A FAIR AMOUNT OF THOSE TWO ELECTRIC BIKES AND KIOSKS TO BE IN THEIR BIKE SHARE PROGRAM, UH, ALONG WITH THE BUILD OUT OF THE MASTER BIKE PLAN.

UH, IT'S A GREAT COMBINATION OF KIND OF CITY DEPARTMENTS CAPITALIZING EACH OTHER'S SUCCESSES THERE.

SO THOSE ARE TWO AREAS THAT I THINK THERE COULD BE LIKE RELATIVELY RAPID MOVEMENT IN, AND THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS IN.

AND IN TERMS OF THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S EXPANDING, UH, UH, IT'S THE STRATEGY FOR THERE AROUND EXPANDING OUTREACH TO SYSTEMATICALLY INCLUDE EXCLUDED GROUPS.

UM, SO WITHIN THAT, UH, EXAMPLE WE'VE DONE IS, I'D SAY ABOUT 2017 OR 2018 OR SO, WE LOOKED AT THE PORTFOLIO OF EV CHARGING THAT EXISTED, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND WE LOOKED AT IT NOT JUST GEOGRAPHICALLY, BUT ALSO BY SECTOR AND LIKE WHAT KINDS OF BUSINESSES WERE, UH, WERE REPRESENTED THERE.

AND WE SAW A LOT OF COMMERCIAL, WE SAW A LOT OF WORKPLACE, UH, THOSE WERE THE PRIMARILY TWO BUT ALMOST ZERO REPRESENTATION FROM THE MULTIFAMILY SECTOR.

THAT WAS AN AREA THAT WAS INTEREST WAS LOW.

UM, CAPITAL'S NOT REALLY READILY AVAILABLE FOR A LOT OF THOSE, THOSE PROPERTIES, EVEN THE MORE EXPENSIVE ONES, THOSE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, EVEN AT LARGE CONDOS DON'T RUN ON HUGE OPERATING BUDGETS IS SOMETHING I'VE LEARNED.

UM, SO WE, YOU KNOW, WORK DIRECTLY THROUGH LIKE THE AUSTIN APARTMENT ASSOCIATION ONE, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, GETTING 'EM TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS OF WHAT HAPPENED ON YOUR PROPERTY IS AS WELL AS TAILORED REBATES UP TO 80% FOR THEM TO INSTALL THEM IN THEIR PROPERTY.

AND WE GOT 20 WITHIN THAT FIRST YEAR, I BELIEVE WE'RE OVER A HUNDRED NOW IN TERMS OF PROPERTIES THAT HAVE EV CHARGING, UH, ON SITE FOR THEIR RESIDENCE.

UM, AND UH, ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, BIG TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT AS WELL WAS WHEN, UH, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY PUTS IN AN AMENITY, THEN EVERY OTHER PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY WANTS TO HAVE THAT SAME AMENITY.

UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A FUN LESSON LEARNED AND, AND KIND OF A GOOD DOMINO EFFECT ONCE WE HAD A COUPLE ON BOARD.

UM, SO WORKING, WORKING THROUGH LIKE TARGETED OUTREACH EDUCATION WITH THOSE WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL AS WELL.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND NOW IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BARRIERS AND CHALLENGES TO EXECUTING OR, OR EVEN VISIONING SOME OF THE STUFF WITHIN THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLANS GOALS AND STRATEGIES AND, AND THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING TO CONTINUE ON.

AND, UH, ONE, EVEN THOUGH I JUST MENTIONED IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST IMPACT AREAS IS CONDUCTING AN EV COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

SO, AND OUR REASON I HAVE THAT AS A BARRIER OR CHALLENGE

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IS JUST ENSURING THAT THERE'S NOT SAY STATIC.

SO IF WE DO A COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN SAY, 2022, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THAT ISN'T A STATIC DOCUMENT AND IT'S NOT KIND OF UPDATED, YOU KNOW, IN LIKE 2026 WHEN NEEDS MAY CHANGE, WHEN YOU KNOW WHEN TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, WHEN THOSE KIND OF THINGS HAPPEN.

AND ALSO GETTING VERY NARROW WITH THE SCOPE IN THAT.

I MEAN, SO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY, IS IT, YOU KNOW, A NEEDS ASSESSMENT ON WHAT WOULD INCREASE ADOPTION IS A NEEDS ASSESSMENT WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE MAY BE LACKING, UH, REALLY WHAT IS THE, WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE FIRST BEFORE WE PROACTIVELY, YOU KNOW, PRESCRIBE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT COMMUNITY AS WELL AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE A VOICE IN THAT.

UM, THE SECOND ONE, UH, JUST 'CAUSE THIS HAS GOTTEN ASKED WAS THE REDUCTION OF TOLLS ON EVS IN THE EASTERN CRESCENT AND JUST REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, OF TOLL REDUCTIONS THERE, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ENTITIES MIGHT HAVE SOME SORT OF INFLUENCE ON THAT.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST SINCE IT'S OUT OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S PURVIEW, WE JUST IDENTIFIED THAT AS A BARRIER FOR IMPLEMENTATION ON OURSELVES.

AND THE, THE THIRD, OH, SORRY.

YEAH, THE, THE THIRD ONE WE IDENTIFIED AS A BARRIER TO CHALLENGE IS EXPANDING THE EV RELATED BUSINESS ECOSYSTEM.

UH, THERE IS A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY HERE IN TERMS OF EVS.

UM, THERE'S A MAJOR COMPANY THAT PRODUCES EVS THAT PUT UP A FACTORY EAST OF AUSTIN BA AIRPORT.

YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD OF THEM.

UH, SO A LOT OF A, A LOT OF EXPANSION THERE.

WE'VE ALSO SEEN, YOU KNOW, MANUFACTURING FOR EV CHARGING, UM, LOCAL MAINTENANCE CONTRACTORS, SPECIFICALLY TAILORING THEIR BUSINESS TO DO REPAIRS AND BUILD OUT FOR EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THEY'RE GOING FROM LIKE JUST AN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR TO A CONTRACTOR THAT SPECIALIZES IN THAT.

SO A LOT OF MOVEMENT THERE.

I JUST SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE LIKE THAT OUR CONTROL MAY BE LOW, BUT MOVEMENT'S STILL HAPPENING A LOT THERE WITH THOSE, THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN, UM, FINALLY, I I JUST WANNA SAY IS LIKE WHEN I, WHEN I GO OVER ALL THESE GOALS, STRATEGIES, SUCCESSES, I DON'T MEAN TO CLAIM THEM AS OUR OWN NECESSARILY.

IT'S A, IT'S A WORK OF A, A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, UM, EVERYTHING FROM ACADEMIA, DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS SIDE OF THINGS AS WELL.

SO WHETHER IT BE OUR OWN AND UTILITY PEERS TO LEARN BEST LESS LESSONS OR SORRY, BEST PRACTICES FOR DOING THESE THINGS, WHETHER IT BE GETTING INVOLVED DIRECTLY WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO ASSESS THEIR NEEDS AND, AND FULFILL THEIR NEEDS ARE, WHETHER IT BE WITH, YOU KNOW, HELP ON THE ACADEMIA SIDE WHERE WE NEED, YOU KNOW, FURTHER ANALYSIS THINGS DONE.

UH, THAT'S REALLY WHO CONTRIBUTED TO A LOT OF THIS SUCCESS.

AND, UH, AND REALLY THAT'S THE, THE REASON WHY I WAS ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT SO MANY OF THOSE THINGS, UH, THIS EVENING.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I THINK THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN IT.

I, I, I USUALLY TALK FOR LIKE 45 MINUTES, SO I'M KIND OF PROUD OF MYSELF FOR POWER.

YOU, I'M PROUD OF YOU.

I'M PROUD OF YOU AS WELL.

OH, .

NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE, UM, WE'RE MAYBE WE'RE GONNA GO AROUND HERE, UH, AND JUST ASK YOU SOME, SOME LIGHTNING ROUND QUESTIONS, I GUESS.

SURE, PLEASE DO.

I, I LIKE CONVERSATION BETTER THAN MONOLOGUE.

SO, UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN YOU PULL UP THE REMOTE COMMISSIONERS OR REMOTE COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, OR THEIR LIKENESSES? YEAH.

UM, FER OR RESI.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION.

UH, MY COMMENT IS I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, THIS REALLY CAME TO MIND JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN THE, THE J S C WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT SOLAR STUFF.

SO, UM, IS THERE, CAN YOU FORESEE ANY SORT OF SYNERGY BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES HAVING SOLAR AND ALSO HAVING, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICAL VEHICLES, WHETHER THEY'RE CHARGING THEM RIGHT, AND DRAWING FROM THE GRID OR PUTTING ENERGY ONTO THE GRID.

UM, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVE OR, OR INITIATIVE OR SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE ONE TO, TO GET THE OTHER? UM, JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT THING COULD WORK BEST TO SERVE THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY.

UH, CERTAINLY, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE COULD BE A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAKE THOSE TWO INTERACT.

UM, AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES 'CAUSE DIFFERENT USE CASES KIND OF DICTATE HOW THOSE TWO THINGS INTERACT ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN A, A LOT OF INSTALLATIONS FOR SOLAR THAT ACTUALLY YOUR EXCESS, YOUR PRODUCTION WILL BE IN EXCESS OF YOUR CONSUMPTION.

AND SO YOU GET PAID FOR THAT IN THE FORM OF A BILL CREDIT.

WELL, IF YOU GO NEGATIVE ON YOUR BILL, CREDIT JUST MEANS YOU HAVE A BALANCE OF NEGATIVE.

SO, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN CUSTOMERS BUY ONE TWO EVS TO UH, KIND OF INCREASE THEIR USAGE, WHICH, UM, IS KIND OF WONDERFUL THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO, YOU'RE PRODUCING SO MUCH THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO FULFILL THAT.

AND ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, YEAH, THERE IS A GOOD SYNERGY BETWEEN SOLAR AND EV CHARGING AS WELL.

UM, A ONE JUST BECAUSE WHEN I TALK ABOUT PEAK DEMAND AND THE STRAIN ON THE GRID IS IF CHARGING DOES HAPPEN THERE, YOU KNOW, SOLAR PRODUCTION'S

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ALSO VERY HIGH DURING THOSE PERIODS.

SO THAT'S WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, OFFSET THAT DEMAND THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE GRID AS WELL AS IF YOU'RE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OWNER, OFFSET THE AMOUNT THAT YOUR DEMAND CHARGE ON YOUR BILL IS GOING TO BE TO REDUCE IT THAT WAY AS WELL.

SO, UH, THERE'S DEFINITELY WAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CO BENEFICIAL TO EACH OTHER, HAVING BOTH THERE.

AND WE'RE EVEN SEEING THINGS LIKE STANDALONE SYSTEMS, UM, COMPLETELY OFF GRID APPLIC APPLICATIONS WHERE YOU'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, SOLAR CHARGING KIOSKS NOW, UH, IT'S TYPICALLY SOLAR PANELS BATTERY, THEN EV CHARGER IS THE WAY A LOT OF THOSE ARE STRUCTURED, BUT THEY DON'T REQUIRE ANY GRID INTERCONNECTION.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY MOVABLE.

I MEAN MOVABLE 'CAUSE THEY'RE VERY LARGE AND, BUT THEY'RE NOT TIED TO THE GROUND.

AND SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY MOVE THOSE, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED NEEDS IN ANOTHER PLACE, BUT THEY HAVE ZERO GRID IMPACT.

THEY'RE COMPLETELY 100% SOLAR POWERED, UH, WITH THE HELP OF A BATTERY TO KIND OF INCREASE THE POWER THRESHOLD.

AND, UH, THAT'S COME A LONG WAY AS WELL.

THEY USED TO BE THE, THE, THE OLDER SOLAR POWERED EV CHARGING STATIONS WOULD PUT OUT AS MUCH POWER AS LIKE 110 VOLT OUTLET.

SO STILL A RELATIVELY SLOW CHARGE, BUT NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH BETTER PANEL EFFICIENCY AS WELL AS WITH THE KIND OF BATTERY BEING IN THERE TO HELP SUPPORT THAT, YOU'RE SEEING HIGH SPEED CHARGING DONE ON THOSE KIND OF STANDALONE SYSTEMS AS WELL.

SO, ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE BOTH THE, THE ADOPTION OF BOTH THOSE KIND OF DOUBLES DOWN ON THE, YOU KNOW, UH, EMISSIONS BENEFITS TOO.

SO YEAH, THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.

APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

I JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION FIRST.

I, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE 460,000 CARS IS SORT OF THE, THE GOAL NUMBER, BUT THEN 37,000 CHARGING PORTS, IS THAT RIGHT? UH, CORRECT.

YES.

SO, UH, THAT, SO 37,000 CHARGER PORTS FOR 37,000 CHARGING PORTS.

I THINK I SAID SOMETHING WAY LOWER EARLIER, WHICH I PROBABLY GOT WRONG FROM THE PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, YEAH, 37,000 IS THE CORRECT NUMBER FOR, UH, 460,000 EVS.

AND THE REASONS THAT WAY IT'S NOT ONE TO ONE IS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WITH SOME OF THE LOWER SPEED CHARGING, EVEN LEVEL TWO CHARGING, WHICH IS 240 VOLTS, IT'S WHAT YOU SEE EVERYWHERE.

THAT MIGHT BE CLOSER TO A TWO OR THREE TO ONE RATIO, UH, WE NEED OUT THERE.

UM, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE THINGS LIKE MUCH FASTER, HIGH SPEED DC FAST CHARGING.

SO IF YOU'RE TALKING LIKE IN THE 150 300 KILOWATT RANGE OF CHARGING, THAT'S EXTREMELY HIGH AMOUNTS OF POWER AND EXTREMELY FAST CHARGING, YOU DON'T NEED A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO THERE.

ONE OF THOSE COULD SUPPORT 20, 30, 40, 50 VEHICLES.

UM, BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE TURNOVER IS VERY QUICK.

ALSO, I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE, UM, NOW I GIVE THE CAVEAT 'CAUSE THIS IS WITH EARLY ADOPTERS, BUT UH, EVERY STUDY IS BASICALLY SHOWING THAT BETWEEN 80 AND 90% OF CHARGING IS DONE AT HOME.

UM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE 37,000 CHARGERS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

SO THAT WOULD ALSO HELP TO SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

UM, AND WE DO SEE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC CHARGING BEING MUCH MORE OF A NECESSITY WHEN WE START SEEING THE TRANSITION TO LIKE HIGH MILEAGE VEHICLES LIKE RIDE SHARE COMPANIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, IF, YOU KNOW, A TOMMY'S A AUTONOM VEHICLE'S NOW IN THE CITY TO SUMS LOVE AND SOMES HATE DEPENDING ON WHAT'S WHAT YOU READ.

UM, BUT YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL ELECTRIC PLATFORMS AS WELL, SO, SO THE INCLUSION OF THOSE IS GONNA, ARE GONNA REQUIRE A LOT MORE PUBLIC CHARGING TOO.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT RATIO IS SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE A RESIDENTIAL CHARGING BUT ALSO HIGH SPEED CHARGING SUPPORTS A HIGHER NUMBER OF VEHICLES.

OKAY, GOT IT.

THAT JUST SEEMED LOW WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT 12 TO WHAT MAKES SENSE IF YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING RESIDENTS, UM, THE STANDALONE, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T REALLY, UM, ENCOUNTERED IT.

IS, ARE THERE ANY OF THOSE IN SORT OF MORE PUBLIC SPACES LIKE PARKLAND? OR DO YOU NOT SEE THAT AS A, UH, THE STANDALONE ONE'S IN TERMS OF THE, THE SOLAR INTEGRATED EV CHARGING? UH, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF ONE HERE IN AUSTIN THAT I'M AWARE OF NOW.

UM, AND, AND, AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE RELATIVELY NEW.

AND, AND THE REASON I, UM, KNOW THAT THERE'S AT LEAST ONE HERE IS THERE'S A COMPANY CALLED BEAM AND OUR CITY OF AUSTIN FLEET SERVICES ACTUALLY GOT IT FOR AN APPLICATION WHERE AN INSTALLATION WOULD BE EXTREMELY COSTLY.

UM, SO WE INSTALL, LIKE EVERYONE ASKS WHAT'S THE COST OF INSTALLING YOU BE CHARGING? AND THAT NUMBER CAN VARY EXTREMELY HIGH DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT POWER IS AVAILABLE, HOW FAR YOU HAVE TO TRENCH THROUGH CONCRETE, WHERE ELECTRICAL PANELS LOCATED, ALL SORTS OF FACTORS.

AND SO THEY, UM, THEY KIND OF FOUND A SOLUTION WHERE THEY INSTALLED THIS STANDALONE STATION AT, UH, A PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS GONNA HAVE A HIGH COST AND THEY ALREADY HAD AN INHERENT NEED THERE.

BUT FOR PLACES, AS YOU MENTIONED, LIKE, LIKE PARKS, UM, AND OTHERS WERE, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF ELECTRICAL SERVICE TO THOSE AREAS.

THAT'S A FANTASTIC SOLUTION, UH, AND A GREAT WAY TO KIND OF GET CHARGING AVAILABILITY TO PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE DISTRIBUTION GRID READILY AVAILABLE OR REQUIRE LIKE A HIGH, UH, HIGH COST SERVICE DROP, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S A, IT'S AN ELEGANT SOLUTION TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT STUFF AS WELL.

SO.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, AND THEN JUST KIND OF CURIOUS AS FAR AS SORT OF, I MEAN, I GUESS BEST CASE SCENARIO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR EXAMPLE,

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IS THERE SORT OF LIKE PER NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IN A UNIT, THE NUMBER OF STATIONS THAT YOU WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE? YEAH, I, AND AND I, I LIKE TO USE MULTIFAMILY, UH, ACTUALLY AS AN EXAMPLE AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AS AN EXAMPLE THAT, UM, SO WE'VE WORKED, UM, WE HAVE A GREEN BUILDING PRO, SORRY, PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM, NOT PROBLEM AT AUSTIN ENERGY, UM, WHERE WE FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, BUILDING DESIGN, UM, BASICALLY LEAD BUT SPECIFIC TO AUSTIN'S, UH, CLIMATE AND COMMUNITY.

AND THROUGH THAT WE DEVELOPED SOME EV READINESS RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, IT IS NOW IT'S, IT IS A MEASURE WITHIN GREEN BUILDING THAT NEW COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES OR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES CAN DO.

UM, WE, WE SHOOT FOR 10% RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO THAT'S 10% OF PARKING AND, AND THAT 10% COULD EASILY ACTUALLY BE 20%.

SO THE THINGS THAT WE ASK FOR WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, WHETHER IT BE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING OR MULTIFAMILY, IS, UH, FOR A NEW BUILDING YOU HAVE YOUR TRANSFORMER THAT PROVIDES THE ELECTRICAL POWER TO YOUR BUILDING.

WELL, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING THAT OUT, YOU WANNA TAKE 10% OF YOUR PARKING SPACES, FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH ELECTRICAL LOAD THAT WOULD BE, CALCULATE THAT IN YOUR TRANSFORMER SIZE TO INCLUDE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND REPLACE THAT IN FIVE YEARS WHEN YOU KNOW 10% OF YOUR RESIDENTS OR CUSTOMERS ADOPT EVS.

SO DOING THAT UP FRONT, UH, 'CAUSE IT'S MUCH EASIER TO DO THAT AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION THAN IT IS TO RETROFIT.

THE SECOND THING IS YOU DO THE EXACT SAME THING BUT WITH YOUR ELECTRICAL PANELS.

SO IT'S JUST SIMPLE THINGS LIKE HAVING SPACES ON YOUR PANELS, GETTING ELECTRICAL PANEL THAT'S BIG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THAT 10%.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE PROBABLY MOST, UH, EFFICIENT THING YOU CAN DO COST-WISE IS RUNNING CONDUIT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY IN BUILD A BUILDING VERSUS RE RETROFIT AND, UH, TEAR UP BUILDING.

UM, WE DID A LOT OF THAT STUFF ACTUALLY AT THIS BUILDING WE'RE AT TONIGHT IN THAT GARAGE RIGHT THERE.

UM, SO DOING A, A MAKE READY FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST HAVE, YOU'RE NOT TEARING APART A BRAND NEW GARAGE OR A PARKING LOT FIVE TO 10 YEARS AFTER IT'S BUILT, SINCE A LOT OF THESE ARE 50 YEAR ASSETS.

SO WE LOOK AT 10%, AND THAT'S BASED ON SOME STANDARD CALCULATIONS WITH THINGS LIKE PUTTING TWO CHARGERS ON ONE CIRCUIT THAT CAN EASILY TRANSLATE TO THINGS LIKE 20%.

UM, SO THERE'S WAYS TO EXPAND THAT RELATIVELY EASY, BUT 10% IS OUR BASELINE AND THAT WAS AN EXTREMELY LONG-WINDED ANSWER, SO NO, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.

GO FOR IT.

MM-HMM.

, SO YOU TALKED ABOUT 275 CITY FLEET VEHICLES.

MM-HMM.

, CAN YOU PUT THAT IN CONTEXT? HOW MANY FLEET VEHICLES OVERALL THERE ARE? UH, I'VE, I MIGHT BE GETTING IT WRONG BECAUSE SINCE I, I, I'M NOT PART OF THE FLEET DEPARTMENT, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S OVER LIKE 3000 VEHICLES OR SO, MIGHT BE THE TOTAL FLEET SIZE.

UM, AND SO THEY HAVE 2 75 AND THEN THEY HAVE A LOT MORE ON ORDER.

AND THE WAY THAT THEY DO THOSE REPLACEMENTS OR THEY, THEY ACTUALLY BRING THESE IN IS THEY HAVE A, A STAGGERED REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE OF VEHICLES GOING OUT ANYWAY.

MM-HMM.

, SO AS OPPOSED TO LIKE A, YOU KNOW, MAJOR SELLOFF, MAJOR BUY-IN, UM, THEY, THEY RUN 'EM ALL ON LIKE THE ROTATION LIST OF WHEN THEY RETIRE.

THEY DO LIKE ESSENTIALLY LIKE AN ELECTRIC FIRST POLICY WHERE THEY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TELEMATICS ON ALL OF THEIR VEHICLES.

SO THEY LOOK AT WHAT'S THE OPERATIONAL NEED IN TERMS OF MILEAGE.

THEY LOOK AT THE OPERATIONAL NEED IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT THE VEHICLE ACTUALLY DOES.

SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE BARRIERS IN THINGS LIKE FIRE TRUCKS OR, YOU KNOW, UTILITY TRUCKS RIGHT NOW.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE THOSE KINDS OF SERVICE NEEDS THAT THEY CAN'T BE DONE WITH EVS.

SO THAT'S HOW THEY'RE ROLLING IN IS DO THAT, LIKE THAT EVALUATION AND THAT NATURAL, UH, ROLL OFF OF RETIREMENT OF VEHICLES.

AND IS THERE AN EVALUATION PROCESS TO LOOK AT A A P D VEHICLES? UH, PARDON A P D THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IS THERE ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER, UH, EFFORTS TO ELECTRIFY THEIR FLEET? YEAH, I, I, I KNOW, I KNOW THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ONE OF THE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BARRIER OR NOT, UM, BUT AROUND LIKE WHAT PURSUIT READY MEANS, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, LIKE A POLICE VEHICLE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE AND WHAT NEEDS TO COME OFF THE LINE TO BE ACTUAL PURSUIT VEHICLE.

UM, BUT YEAH, NO, THE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY LOOKING AT, UH, A P D VEHICLES AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, E M S AND FIRE VEHICLES AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE LIKE OUR FLEET SERVICE DEPARTMENT HAS PURVIEW OVER THAT ENTIRE FLEET OF VEHICLES AND THEY'RE ASSESSING ALL OF THEM, SO.

OKAY.

AND THEN I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THE 40% OF E M T GOAL WAS 226 MEGAWATTS, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, THE 40% V M T GOLD TRANSLATES TO 226 MEGAWATTS OF EV CHARGING.

OKAY.

CAN YOU PUT THAT IN CONTEXT OF THE OVERALL AUSTIN ENERGY GENERATION, JUST SO WE CAN KINDA YEAH, I, I BELIEVE OUR PEAK LOAD IS SOMEWHERE AROUND, UH, 3000 MEGAWATTS.

UM, SO, SO I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AT THAT KIND OF BUILD OUT LESS THAN 10%.

OKAY.

UH, SO IT'S, BUT THAT, THAT IS AN EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF LOAD.

SO, AND THEN AS WE LOOK TO TALK ABOUT EVS AND THE TRANSITION TO BEING CARBON NEUTRAL, IT'S ONLY AS CARBON NEUTRAL AS THE ENERGY THAT WE'RE PRODUCING.

SO WHAT'S THE CURRENT MIX OF AUSTIN ENERGY'S GENERATION IN TERMS OF RENEWABLE VERSUS FOSSIL FUEL? YEAH, SO IN, IN THE PORTFOLIO RIGHT NOW, IT'S EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, NATURAL GAS, COAL, UM, UH,

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I BELIEVE IN, UH, WE HAVE BATTERY STORAGE IN A SMALL AMOUNT AS WELL.

UM, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT OUR ACTUAL MIX IS RIGHT NOW, BUT I BELIEVE WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 65% BY 2030.

UM, SO THAT THAT'S, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT CARBON-FREE GENERATION OH, AND, AND SORRY, NUCLEAR WITHIN THE SOUTH TEXAS PLANT THAT WE KNOW AS WELL.

THAT'S A BIG PORTION OF IT THAT WE HAVE IN THERE TOO.

YEAH.

UH, DIDN'T MEAN TO LEAVE THAT ONE OUT.

SO YOU SAID 65 BY 2030? YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S OUR CURRENT GOAL.

AND, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF, WE'RE REVISING OUR RESOURCE GENERATION PLAN, UM, ALONGSIDE, YOU KNOW, MANY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'LL CHANGE THE THRESHOLDS OF IT, BUT, UM, OUR GENERATION MIX IS, IS PART OF THAT PROCESS TOO, SO.

OKAY.

AND THEN AS WE LOOK AT, UH, UH, EQUITY AND EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS, ARE THERE, ARE THERE SPECIAL INCENTIVES FOR THE INSTALLATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE AT MULTIFAMILY RENTAL PROPERTIES? YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THOSE IN, UH, WE'VE DONE 'EM IN LIKE KIND OF STAGES.

SO WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE THE ONE WITH THE, WITH, UH, MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES BEFORE.

UM, SO WE DO 'EM FOR LIKE A LIMITED TIME, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE DID THE LAST ONE FOR LIKE A YEAR.

UM, AND WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE NOW WE HAVE THE ONE AROUND E-BIKES AND WE KIND OF, WE'LL KIND OF CYCLE THROUGH THOSE, GET TO A CERTAIN THRESHOLD AND THEN WE'LL END UP BRINGING THEM BACK AS WELL.

SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SPECIALIZED INCENTIVES FOR LIKE, POTENTIALLY LIKE EV CAR SHARING AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WE'RE KIND OF, WE, WE KIND OF GO ACROSS THE BOARD IN TERMS OF HOW WE COULD DO EQUITABLE INCENTIVES FOR OUR, ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. UM, SORRY, I ALSO FORGOT TO MENTION ON THE RENEWABLE SIDE IS ALL OF OUR PUBLIC CHARGING IS SUBSCRIBED TO OUR, UH, UH, GREEN CHOICE PROGRAM.

SO WIND POWER, UH, FOR ALL OF THOSE AND GOING INTO THAT TO HELP FUND A WIN PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

SO.

GREAT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

MM-HMM.

, A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED GREAT QUESTIONS.

UM, I DON'T MIND GETTING 'EM AGAIN.

.

I'M CURIOUS, DO YOU HAVE A MAP OF THE CURRENT EV CHARGING STATIONS? I DO.

YEAH.

I, I ABSOLUTELY DO.

UM, I BELIEVE WE CAN, IT CAN BE FOUND ON PLUGIN AUSTIN.COM.

OKAY.

UM, SO THAT IS, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY'S WEBSITE THAT HAS, UH, WHERE EV CHARGING IS, UH, THROUGH THERE.

SO WE HAVE IT HOSTED THERE.

WE ALSO HAVE IT, UM, WE, ALL OF OUR CHARGING NETWORK IS, UM, SUPPORTED THROUGH CHARGEPOINT.

UM, SO THAT IS KIND OF OUR SINGULAR SOFTWARE PROVIDER THROUGH IT.

SO WITHIN THE CHARGEPOINT APP AND OR WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE ONES THAT ARE IN, UM, AUSTIN AREA THAT ARE PART OF OUR NETWORK THERE.

BUT I'D RECOMMEND, IN TERMS OF THE ONES SPECIFIC TO OUR PROGRAM, I'D RECOMMEND PLUGGING AUSTIN.COM FOR THAT MAP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I DON'T HAVE THAT UP RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M, I'M ASKING 'CAUSE I'M CURIOUS WHEN THINKING ABOUT EQUITY, UM, ABOUT THE BREAKDOWN IN THE EAST VERSUS WEST DIVIDE MM-HMM.

IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF CHARGING PORTS.

ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE NUMBERS ON THAT? ABSO I, I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC NUMBERS, BUT I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VISUALLY THERE, UM, YEAH, IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU SEE IT, THERE'S PLACES LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOUTHEAST IN, LIKE THAT'S A CHARGING DESERT FOR THE MOST PART IN TERMS OF LIKE AREAS, LIKE, THERE'S VERY HIGH CONCENTRATIONS IN LIKE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD THINK LIKE WEST IS AN EXTREMELY HIGH DENSITY THERE.

UH, THERE'S SOME THERE, BUT IT'S NOT NEARLY AS HIGH AS LIKE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN IS, UM, AND IS GEOGRAPHICALLY, IT IS DISPERSED PRETTY WELL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT THE DENSITY OF CHARGING IS NOT EQUAL ACROSS ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.

AND SO ONE OF THE AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE GONNA SHIFT OUR FOCUS TO IS LIKE MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

SO FILLING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, FILLING IN GAPS ARE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE GAPS DON'T EXIST IS PART OF OUR MISSION.

UM, YEAH.

AND SO WE APPLIED FOR A, A GRANT THROUGHOUT THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE WORD BACK YET ON WHETHER WE'RE GONNA GET IT OR NOT, OR WE DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THAT.

BUT A BIG COMPONENT OF THAT IS, UH, APPLYING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY TO JUSTICE 40 REQUIREMENTS MM-HMM.

AND, UH, SO THERE'S JUSTICE 40 MAPPING AND IT DOES COINCIDE VERY WELL WITH WHERE EV CHARGING IS EITHER NOT VERY DENSE OR WHERE IT DOESN'T EXIST AT ALL.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, UM, AND THIS IS GONNA BE MOSTLY DC FAST CHARGING, SO KIND OF HIGH CAPITAL PROJECTS THERE.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE'D HAVE AS A HIGH PRIORITY IS ONE, LEVERAGING KIND OF CITY FACILITIES, SO WE'RE NOT TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON LAND MM-HMM.

, BUT THEN TWO, ALSO REALLY ADDRESSING AREAS WHERE THERE ARE CHARGING DESERTS, WHERE THERE'S LOW DENSITY, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST SUPPORTING WHERE ADOPTION ALREADY EXISTS, MAKING SURE WE'RE ENABLING WHERE ADOPTION OF THE FUTURE COULD BE.

MM-HMM.

.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE FEDERAL DOLLARS TO INCENTIVIZE, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE BUSINESSES OR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS TO THEN PUT A CHARGING PORT OR WHAT WOULD THE, THE FUNDING LOOK LIKE? SO THE FUNDING WOULD COME DIRECTLY TO US.

OKAY.

AND, UM, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE'D GO THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS PROCESS AND BASICALLY BUILD OURSELVES AS OPPOSED MM-HMM.

.

SO IN TERMS OF BEING, IT WOULDN'T BE TRANSLATED NECESSARILY TO INCENTIVES.

IT WOULD BE FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE RECIPIENTS OF THAT TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PRESCRIBE WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE THEM AND THEN HIRE DIRECTLY OF WHERE THEY SHOULD GO.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF, I, I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THE STRUCTURE OF THIS ROUND OF FUNDING.

'CAUSE A, IT HELPS US HAVE A GOOD SAY IN GEOGRAPHICALLY

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WHERE THE STUFF WILL GO.

MM-HMM.

, BUT IT ALSO CAN INCENTIVIZE LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT HAS BUSINESS MODELS OF DOING THIS, IT KIND OF INCENTIVIZE THEM TO COME INTO DIFFERENT TERRITORIES AS WELL.

SO I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC MM-HMM.

, UH, REPRESENTATION OF A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

SO, AND IN CASE THAT FUNDING DOESN'T PAN OUT, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN B? UH, PLAN? PLAN B IS, UH, WE DO HAVE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME DC FAST CHARGING.

IT'S NOT QUITE TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE APPLIED FOR.

UM, THERE ALSO, SO THIS, THIS ROUND, UH, THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS, I THINK THIS, THE TOTAL FUNDING AMOUNT FOR THIS ROUND WAS 700 MILLION NATIONWIDE.

UH, NOT, NOT FOR US.

UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 1.8 BILLION OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS OR FOUR YEARS AS WELL.

UM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THOSE, UH, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY LIKE SOME STATE, STATE GRANTS AS WELL.

MM-HMM.

, UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF BACKUP PLAN TOO.

AND THOSE WOULD BE EARMARKED SPECIFICALLY FOR EASTERN CRESCENT OR LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS? THAT'D BE PART OF IT.

SO 40, LIKE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE 40% GOES THERE, BUT WE'D DO IT, WE WANNA DO AN OVERLAY OF A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.

ONE BEING IDEAL SITUATION, SO EASTERN CRESCENT NEIGHBORHOOD'S A BIG PART OF THAT.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, ALSO RURAL ACCESS IS A HUGE THING THAT WE'RE AWARE OF TOO, NOT JUST BECAUSE, UH, WE SEE THE GAP THERE, BUT ALSO IDENTIFIED BY FEDERAL GRANT REQUIREMENTS IS THERE'S JUST NO RURAL ACCESS, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY MM-HMM.

, UM, A LOT OF PLACES THAT ARE INSTALLING EV CHARGING, LIKE AS A BUSINESS MODEL, ARE GOING TO CHASE WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE BECAUSE THEY WANT HIGH UTILIZATION TO MAKE THAT RETURN.

MM-HMM.

, SO RURAL AREAS, THINGS LIKE THAT AREN'T, YOU KNOW, AT THE FOREFRONT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'D LOOK AT EVERYTHING FROM LIKE DELL VALLEY AND EASTERN CRESCENT, UH, AREAS WHERE IT DOESN'T EXIST YET AND, AND PRIORITIZE THOSE AREAS.

WE ALSO WANNA LOOK AT HIGH AREAS OF MULTI-FAMILY CONCENTRATION.

ALSO ANY KIND OF DATA WE HAVE AROUND LIKE HIGH RIDE SHARE USER OR HIGH RIDE SHARE, UM, USAGE, THAT'S THE WORD.

MM-HMM.

, UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE WHERE THAT COULD, WHERE THAT COULD BE HIGHLY UTILIZED, NOT NECESSARILY DOWNTOWN, BUT ANY OTHER PLACE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL.

MM-HMM.

.

AND HOW DO YOU IMAGINE THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT WILL HELP INFORM SOME OF THESE PLANS? YEAH, SO THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO HELP INFORM, I MEAN, THERE'S A, ONE THING IS WE WANNA UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND, UM, ONE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, IF IT'S, IF IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S ONE PART OF IT, AND JUST UNDERSTANDING LIKE HOW COULD WE INCREASE ADOPTION THERE, WHAT ARE BARRIERS? LIKE THAT'S BARRIER.

LIKE UNDERSTANDING THE BARRIERS TO ADOPTION, THAT'S A HUGE PIECE OF IT.

WHETHER IT BE COST, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST THE OPTICS OF LIKE, THIS ISN'T AVAILABLE TO ME, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, THEN MEET MY OPERATIONAL NEEDS, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

JUST UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE.

AND THEN FOR COMMERCIAL ONES, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ON THAT COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT, THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF IT TOO.

AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, H E B AND TARGET THOSE KIND OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO COMMERCIAL IN THE SENSE OF LIKE COMMUNITY CENTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UNDERSTANDING, OKAY, WELL HOW CAN WE ENABLE YOU TO PROVIDE THIS RESOURCE WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY? AND SO, AND, AND THAT CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, ALSO CASCADE TO LIKE THE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TOO.

SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT BOTH WAYS OF WHAT'S IMPEDING ADOPTION, ALSO WHAT'S IMPEDING INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD OUT MM-HMM.

.

SO IT'S A THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE THAT AS A BEER.

'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO UNDERSTAND, UH, BEFORE MAKING AN ACTION THERE.

BUT ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS IF, LET'S SAY $10 MILLION POPS UP TOMORROW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IS, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THAT AS OPPOSED TO GETTING $10 MILLION AND THEN FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A PART OF WHAT THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT WOULD, WOULD DO.

AND LUCKILY, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED INTO THAT KIND OF HELP PRESCRIBE THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE MENTIONED LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, LOW, LIKE, SORRY, LIKE THE, THE CHARGING DESERTS THINGS, LIKE, THAT'S A BIG PART.

ALSO HAVING UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE LIKE THE ELECTRICAL GRID OVERLAY IS AND WHERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY AND LIKE THE, THE CIRCUITS ON THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM LIVE IS ANOTHER OVERLAY.

SO THERE'S KIND OF A VENN DIAGRAM OF CRITERIA THAT MM-HMM.

, UM, CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, HELP YOU CITE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT WE WANNA START OUT WITH THE IDEAL SOLUTION BEFORE WE START MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, TAKING THINGS AWAY.

SO, AND IS IT AUSTIN ENERGY THAT'S DESIGNING AND IMPLEMENTING THAT COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT? YEAH, IT MEAN IT'LL, IT'LL BE US AMONG OTHERS.

I MEAN, SO I, I, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GONNA WORK MOSTLY THROUGH LIKE, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS MM-HMM.

, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION TO, YOU KNOW, UM, AND WE'VE, WE ALREADY WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND LOTS OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, LOCAL, LOCAL UNIVERSITIES, COMMUNITY COLLEGES,