[Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order]
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AND, UH, BRING THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH A ROLL CALL, UH, TO GET THINGS STARTED HERE.
AND ON MY LEFT, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER WOODS HERE.
UH, ON MY RIGHT, I HAVE COMMISSIONER AZAR HERE.
AND, UH, LET'S SEE, GOING TO THE SCREEN KIND OF AS I SEE YOU GUYS.
UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER BARDO RAMIREZ HERE, COMMISSIONER HAYNES HERE.
AND, UH, UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
UH, WELCOME
AND LET'S GO AND TEST YOUR VOLUME.
I COMMISSIONER COX HERE AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.
YEAH, AND I GUESS, SO THAT GIVES US, UH, FIVE AND FIVE.
AND, UM, WE DO HAVE A FEW COMMISSIONERS OUT.
UM, AND THEN THIS EVENING, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE COMMISSIONER, UH, CHAIR COHEN JOINING US LATER FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, UH, AT AROUND EIGHT OR SO.
UM, SO TODAY, OH, WELL, REAL QUICK, UM, I JUST WANNA GIVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, AND DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU THE FLOOR.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO YOUR COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC.
I JUST WANNA SAY HELLO TO EVERYBODY.
IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE IN THIS SPACE.
I'M REALLY HONORED TO SIT IN THIS SPACE AROUND THE TABLE WITH EVERYONE.
AND I HAD HOPED TO BE THERE IN PERSON TONIGHT, BUT JUST GETTING OVER A VIRUS.
AND SO TODAY WAS LIKE MY FIRST DAY UP AND OUT.
BUT MY ENERGY
SO HOPEFULLY THE NE BY THE NEXT MEETING I'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE IT IN PERSON MEETING.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO PERSONALLY MEETING EVERYONE AND WORKING WITH EVERYONE AND GETTING UP TO SPEED ON THE ISSUES AND RELYING ON YOU GUYS TO HELP ME DO THAT.
AND, UH, WELCOME AND YES, SOME OF THESE MEETINGS YOU NEED ALL THE STRENGTH YOU CAN MUSTER.
'CAUSE
UH, BUT WE WILL TRY TO AVOID THAT TODAY.
UM, ALL RIGHT, UM, SO WE GOT THE ROLL CALL.
I THINK, UH, JUST SKIPPING OVER TO THE AGENDA, WE'VE GOT, UM, DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, AND I HAVE, UH, COMMISSION ZA PARLIAMENTARIAN.
IT'S GONNA LEAD US THROUGH THE FIRST READING OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND WHICH, UH, REAL
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
QUICKLY, I'LL MOVE ON THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TWO SETS OF MINUTES FROM, UH, WE HAVE AUGUST 22ND AND AUGUST 29TH, OH THREE AND SEPTEMBER 12TH.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER HAPPENED.
WE HAVE THREE SETS OF MINUTES.
UH, ANYTHING, ANY QUESTIONS? CORRECTIONS, CHAIR, COMMISSION, LAYS, LIAISON, ANDREW, VERA.
SO ACTUALLY, UM, WE WILL BE SET TO APPROVE AUGUST 22ND AND SEPTEMBER 12TH.
SO, UH, SO CORRECTION AUGUST 22ND AND SEPTEMBER 12TH.
ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE TWO SETS OF MINUTES? ALL RIGHT.
[Consent Agenda]
NONE, WE'LL GO AND ROLL THOSE INTO THE, UH, CONSENT APPROVAL AGENDA, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, COMMISSIONER AZAR.I'LL GO OVER OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS HERE.
UM, NUMBER TWO IS A PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, N P A DASH 2023 DASH 0 0 2 0 0 2 1 0 6 IN 118 RED BIRD LANE, DISTRICT THREE.
THIS IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 10TH.
UM, NUMBER THREE IS A PLAN AMENDMENT N P A DASH 2023 DASH 0 0 2 0 0.0 3, 300 400 INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD DISTRICT THREE.
THIS IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 24TH.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THIS IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2023 DASH 0 2 5 0 1 5 7 2 5 WEST US HIGHWAY TWO 90 EASTBOUND DISTRICT EIGHT STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO, UM, NOVEMBER 14TH.
UM, NUMBER FIVE IS PLAN AMENDMENT P A DASH 2023 DASH 2 0 0 1 4201 SOUTH CONGRESS DISTRICT THREE.
THIS IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT FOR US TONIGHT AND FOR US TO CONSIDER IN A WHILE.
NUMBER SIX IS A REZONING C 14 DASH TWENTY TWENTY THREE ZERO FOUR THREE FORTY TWO HUNDRED AND ONE SOUTH CONGRESS DISTRICT THREE.
THIS IS, UH, ALSO A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT RELATED TO THE SAME.
CASE NUMBER SEVEN IS A PLAN AMENDMENT N P A DASH 2023 DASH 0 0 8 0 2.
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IS KIG DISTRICT SEVEN.UM, THIS IS CONSENT WITH, AND ESSENTIALLY THE WAY THIS WILL HAPPEN IS, GIVE ME A SECOND HERE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M READING THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
THE, THE AREA WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE OF MIXED USE AND OFFICE IS RECOMMENDED FOR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.
AND THE AREA WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE OF SINGLE FAMILY IS RECOMMENDED FOR HIGHER DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY LAND USE.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REZONING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS N P A CHANGE C 14 DASH 2023 DASH ZERO 19 KIG DISTRICT SEVEN.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
IS THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION OR CONSENT? OH, SORRY, I READ IT WRONG.
SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, REZONING C 14 DASH 2023 DASH ONE NINE KIG DISTRICT SEVEN.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT ALONG WITH THE N P A NUMBER SEVEN, AS I STATED.
NUMBER NINE IS PLANNED AMENDMENT NPA A DASH 2023 DASH 0 3 0 1, UM, H MISSION SOUTH DISTRICT TWO.
THIS IS STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 10TH.
NUMBER 10 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2023 DASH 0 0 0 7, UH, H MISSION SOUTH DISTRICT TWO.
THIS IS STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 10TH.
NUMBER 11 IS A PLAN AMENDMENT N P A DASH 2023 DASH 0 0 1 3 0.01 200 WEST MARY DISTRICT NINE.
THIS ITEM IS UP AS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO NOVEMBER 14TH.
THEN NUMBER 12 IS A REZONING C 14 20 23 DASH 0 0 2 1 200 WEST MARY DISTRICT NINE.
THIS ALSO IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO NOVEMBER 14TH.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2023 DASH 20 MORALES WEBER, WEBER WILL CSS ONE DISTRICT THREE.
NUMBER 14, REZONING C 14 20 23 DASH 0 9 8 2 9 0 1 DEL DAKOTA ROAD, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 10TH.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 15, WHICH IS A PLAN AMENDMENT N P A 20 23 0 0 1 4 0.02 SH 59 0 1 DROWSY BELOW TRAIL DISTRICT TWO.
ITEM NUMBER 16, REZONING C 14 DASH 2023 DASH 0 7 8 SH 5 9 0 1 DROWSY OW TRAIL DISTRICT TWO.
THIS ITEM IS ALSO UP FOR CONSENT.
NUMBER 17 IS A PLAN AMENDMENT N P A 2023 DASH 0 4 0 1 SH 5,900 SOUTH PLEASANT VALLEY APARTMENT DISTRICT TWO.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 18, WHICH IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2023 DASH 0 7 1 S SH 5,900 SOUTH PLEASANT VALLEY APARTMENT DISTRICT TWO.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2023 DASH 0 0 3 0 2 700 DAWSON, DISTRICT NINE.
THIS IS, UH, FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 10TH.
ITEM NUMBER 20 C 14 DASH 20 23 0 0 6 4 700 DAWSON, DISTRICT NINE.
THIS IS A REZONING ASSOCIATED WITH NUMBER 19.
THIS ALSO IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 10TH.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REZONING C 14 20 23 DASH 0 4 1.
THE VILLAGE AT VARGAS DISTRICT THREE SIGN IS UP FOR CONSENT.
I NUMBER 22 C 14 DASH 2023 DASH 0 4 2 714.
TURTLE CREEK MULTIFAMILY IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 10TH I NUMBER 2023, WHICH IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2023 DASH FOUR ZERO, UH, 1 0 3 1 7 AND 1 0 4 2 3 MICKEL PLACE DISTRICT SEVEN.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT NOVEMBER 14TH.
THIS IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2023 DASH 0 6 0 KIN NORTH LOOP REZONING DISTRICT SEVEN.
THIS IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2023 DASH 0 4 7 1911 WILLOW CREEK DRIVE, DISTRICT THREE.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR PLANNING COMMISSION POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 24TH.
NUMBER 26, ITEM NUMBER 26 IS ABUT AMENDMENT C EIGHT 14 DASH ZERO SIX DASH 75 0 5 EAST AVENUE, BUD PARCEL, A SECOND AMENDMENT.
THIS ITEM IS ON CONSENT WITH AN AMENDMENT INCLUDED ON CONSENT BY COMMISSIONER HAYNES, WHICH IS TO REZONE FROM ONE 20 TO 160, EXCEPT FOR THE AREA OF RESERVE FOR TECH START RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 8.9 FEET ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY AND 40.5 FEET ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
ITEM NUMBER 27 IS A CONDITIONAL USE SITE PLAN, S P C DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 16 2 C, THE DOUGHTY ART CENTER PLACEMENT DISTRICT NINE.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 10TH.
ITEM NUMBER 28, PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 4 6.
PARK SITE, SECTION TWO AT WILD HORSE RANCH DISTRICT ONE.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 29 IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT DASH 2022 DASH 0 1 69.
EVELYN TRACK PRELIMINARY PLAN DISTRICT ONE.
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FOR REASONS AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C.ITEM NUMBER 30 IS A FINAL PLATT, UM, OUT OF APPROVED FINAL PLATT OUTTA THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN CJ DASH 2019 DASH 0 1 3 8 2A.
THIS IS THE REMAN PHASE TWO FINAL PLATT.
THIS IS RECOMMENDED WITH CONDITIONS, UM, AS ATTACHED IN EXHIBIT C ITEM NUMBER 31, WHICH IS AN L D C AMENDMENT C 20 DASH 2030 DASH 20 ZONING APPLICATION PROCESSES AND DEADLINE, WHICH IS UP FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
AND ITEM NUMBER 32, WHICH IS AN L D C AMENDMENT C 20 DASH 2023 DASH ZERO ONE CHILDCARE SERVICES.
UM, THIS IS MOVING FORWARD ON CONSENT AS STAFF RECOMMENDED.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ZA, IT'S RARE THAT WE HAVE 30 ITEMS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU READING ALL THOSE.
UM, I JUST WANNA CLARIFICATION THE, IS THERE A UNIT, UM, ON THE AMENDMENT FROM COMMISSIONER HAYNES, A REZONE FROM 1 21 60? WHAT IS, WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? IS THAT, UM, JUST CLARIFICATION, IS, IS THERE A UNIT THAT GOES WITH THAT? MR. RIVERA? UM, UH, CHAIR COMMISSION LAY ON HAND.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE INQUIRY? UH, THERE'S TWO NU 160 TO ONE 20 TO ONE 60.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT AN ASSOCIATED UNIT LIKE FEET OR, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOME FEET? THANK YOU.
I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, ADD THAT IN THERE TO MAKE, SO FOR CLARITY, I'LL READ OUT, THIS IS 26 AMENDMENT C 8 1 42 DASH ZERO SIX DASH 0 7 5 0 5.
UM, THIS PASSES ON CONSENT WITH, UH, THE AMENDMENT TO REZONE FROM 120 FEET TO 160 FEET, EXCEPT FOR THE A RESERVE FOR TEXT, RIGHT, OF WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 8.9 FEET ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY AND 40.5 FEET ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
UM, COMMISSIONER, MR. CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD.
UM, I'LL, I'LL EXPLAIN REAL FAST IF YOU WANT ME TO, OR IF SURE.
IF YOU WANT THE FLOOR ON THAT, I'M LOOKING YOUR DIRECTION.
COMMISSIONER HAYNES, IF YOU WANT A MOMENT TO SPEAK, UM, I CAN, IF IF ANYBODY HAS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS I COULD, UM, SURE.
UM, BASICALLY, UH, THE PUT AMENDMENT IS ABUTS TO THE SERVICE ROAD OF I 35.
AND, UH, IT IS THE AREA THAT, UH, TEX TODD IS GOING TO NEED TO CAPTURE FOR THE EXPANSION OF I 35, UH, TALK TO THE APPLICANT, UH, THIS WEEK.
AND, UM, I, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT TWO THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE FACT THAT TXDOT CAN DO THIS THROUGH AN EASEMENT, UM, I THINK IS, IS JUST, JUST HORRIBLE.
AND I THINK TXDOT SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH 'EM IN THAT DOMAIN AND, AND COMPENSATE THE OWNER OF THAT LAND FOR TAKING THEIR LAND.
BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THEIR LAWYERS AND THEIR IMMINENT DOMAIN, UH, PROFESSIONALS.
BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT COIN, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IF THEY DO USE IMMINENT DOMAIN OR THEY HAVE TO USE IMMINENT DOMAIN, WHICH AGAIN, I THINK THEY SHOULD, UM, I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR THE CITY, FOR TAXPAYERS, NOT ONLY IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, BUT THE STATE.
AND SO WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY AGREED TO BACK THEIR REQUEST, UH, THEIR SETBACK FOR, UM, THE INCREASED HEIGHT AND INCREASED DENSITY TO JUST THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND NOT THE, UH, FOOTPRINT OF THE, OF THE AREA THAT TXDOT IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO TAKE FROM THEM.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE AMENDMENT THAT'S AND THE APPLICANT'S IN AGREEMENT.
AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE IT TO STAY ON CONSENT, BUT IF NOT, UH, HAPPY TO PUT IT ON DISCUSSION AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO STAY IT ON CON STAY ON CONSENT ALSO, BUT YES, UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT MORE DIALOGUE, SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND KEEP THAT ON CONSENT.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY RECUSALS TODAY? YES, I'M ABSTAINING ON ITEMS 15, 16, 17, AND 18.
UH, SO, UM, I WANT TO, SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD HERE, UH, WITH, WELL, LET ME BACK UP.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO REALLY THANK, UH, THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE KOENIG ITEM.
I THINK IT REALLY SHOWED A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW, UM, THE TWO PARTIES WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A GREAT COMPROMISE, UH, ON HOW WE KIND OF BUILD THAT TRANSITION FROM OUR BUSIER STREETS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS WORKING THROUGH THAT.
SO I THINK THAT WAS A WIN-WIN MAKES OUR JOBS A LOT EASIER UP HERE.
AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORKING THAT
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OUT.AND WE CAN KEEP, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE PULL IT, I THINK WE'RE KEEPING THAT ON CONSENT.
UH, SO THIS IS A HYBRID MEETING, UH, AS FOLKS CAN SEE HERE.
WE'VE GOT FOLKS, UH, ON THE DAIS AND ON THE SCREEN AS WELL AS, UH, IF WE HAVE ANY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANY SPEAKERS THIS EVENING, BUT THEY CAN ALSO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY.
UM, YES, I JUST WANNA KNOW FOR THE RECORD THAT THAT'S A RE AN RECUSAL AND NOT AN ABSTENTION ON 15, 16, 17, AND 18.
AND THE REASON IS THAT I'M CONSULTING WITH A GROUP THAT'S RESPONDING TO THE CITY'S R F Q FOR ITEMS 15 AND 16, AND I'M CONSULTING ON ITEMS 17 AND 18 ON THAT PROJECT.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WOODS.
AND SO NOW THIS IS WHERE I'M THROW A LITTLE CURVE BALL ON OUR NEWEST MEMBER COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
AND WE HAVE THIS LITTLE THING WHERE WE HAVE, UH, GREEN, UH, RED AND YELLOW CARDS TO KIND OF HELP ME SEE.
BUT TONIGHT, YOU JUST RAISE YOUR HAND ON A VOTE, UH, WHEN WE GO THROUGH FOR OR AGAINST, OR ABSTAINING.
SO I'LL JUST, I WON'T EXPECT ANY COLORS FROM YOU THIS EVENING, BUT NEXT TIME, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY, IT JUST HELPS US KINDA, UM, SEE WHO'S IN FAVOR AND WHO'S OPPOSED TO CERTAIN ITEMS. UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ALL RIGHT.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT I WAS GLAD TO SEE, UM, CHILDCARE REMAIN OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
BUT I DID ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US IN THE C J O C AND THE AMENDMENTS WE HAD PUT TOGETHER.
UM, WE DID WANNA NOTE THAT, UH, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE STILL CURRENTLY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT A LATER POINT IN TIME WHEN WE DO PARKING REFORM CITYWIDE.
SO THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S COMING UP LATER.
AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THIS MOVE ON TO COUNCIL.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, INCLU, INCLUDING, UH, APPROVE THE CONSENT TO INCLUDING THE TWO SETS OF MINUTES? UH, COMMISSIONER CZAR SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.
[Items 5 & 6]
POSTPONEMENT, UH, THIS EVENING, AND LET ME PULL THE ITEM ON THAT.AND SO, UH, WHO IS THE PARTY SPEAKING FIRST? THANK YOU, CHAIR.
UH, COMMISSIONER, LAY LIAISON, ANDREW RIVERA.
SO, WE'LL FIRST HEAR FROM, UH, MR. KTU REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, REQUESTING AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.
MR. CONTI, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.
AND SO LET ME JUST, UH, EXPLAIN AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY, WE'RE ONLY SPEAKING TO THE MERITS OF THE POSTPONEMENT, UH, NOT THE MERITS OF THE CASE ITSELF.
JUST, UM, AND SO COMMISSIONERS, YOUR QUESTION SHOULD BE ABOUT, UH, THE POSTPONEMENT AND NOT DIGGING INTO THE CASE, UH, THE DETAILS OF THE CASE ITSELF.
GOOD, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
I'M CHAIR OF THE SOUTH CONGRESS CONTACT TEAM.
I'M HERE TODAY TO REQUEST AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT ON THIS CASE.
UH, THE REASON WHY IS THAT, UH, WE DID HAVE A VIRTUAL MEETING ON, UH, EARLY IN APRIL ABOUT THIS CASE.
UH, THERE WAS NO INFORMATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN DURING THAT TIME.
E EVERYTHING WAS JUST KIND OF A, A SKETCH OR A SCHEME.
UH, AS FAR AS FROM WHAT THE APPLICANT, UH, RECEIVED, UH, ON HIS INFORMATION TOWARDS US, WE HAVE, UH, TRIED TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT A FEW TIMES.
UH, WE DID STRESS HOW WE OPERATE.
UH, BASICALLY WE SENT OUT A QUESTIONNAIRE.
WE ASKED FOR THE QUESTIONNAIRE TO BE FILLED OUT.
WE DID SEND IT OUT, UH, A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AND SO WE JUST DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE HEIGHT, HOW MANY UNITS, UH, THE PARKING SPACES, THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
IT'S ALSO GONNA BUTT UP TO THE BERGSTROM SPUR.
SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.
AND, UH, HOW MANY EXISTING RETAIL SPACES IS THERE GONNA BE AS WELL? UH, SO THESE, THESE ARE MISSING LINKS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE, UH, ON THE TABLE WITH OURSELVES AS A CONTACT TEAM, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD OR WITH THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY.
UM, AND THE PARKLAND DEDICATION DOES NOT EXIST.
UH, I NOTICED ON THERE, UH, THERE'S NO PARKLAND DEDICATION, SO THAT'S A PROBLEM AS WELL.
AND WILL THE, UH, THERE'S ALSO LISTED, WILL THE SPACE BE PROVIDED FOR CHILDCARE SERVICES? AND IT SAYS UNKNOWN.
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AS WELL? AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CLEARLY EXPRESSED AND COMMUNICATED OUR REQUESTS, HOW WE OPERATE OUR NEEDS, THE TIMELINES, AND WHAT WE WANT IN RETURN AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, THEY WANT A ZONING CHANGE.
WE WOULD LIKE A, SOME CONCESSIONS AS WELL.
AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THESE FILLED OUT IN A RESTRICTED COVENANT.
AND SO THE MEETINGS AND OUR CONCESSIONS ARE A BIG THING,
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AND WE JUST HAVE NOT HAD ANY INFORMATION ON THE TABLE OF FACTUAL INFORMATION AS, AS TO WHAT THIS IS GONNA BE.AND I THINK THAT A, THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE HERE IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION? THANK YOU.
CHAIR, CHAIR, COMMISSIONER, LADIES ON ANDA.
I ALSO HAVE, UM, MS. AND WHAT MAY, MR. HOWARD CURTIS AS WELL, MR. CURTIS CONFESSIONS AS WELL.
IF YOU COULD MUTE YOUR BACKGROUND NOISE.
UH, MR. CURTIS, YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE OBJECTION,
SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? MR. CURTIS? YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, UH, TO SPEAK TO THE, I WAS TRYING TO DIAL INTO THE MEETING AND I CAN'T, I CAN'T TELL WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
MR. CURTIS, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, SOMEONE.
YEAH, JUST, UH, PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS.
YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK TO THE POSTPONEMENT.
PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS FORM.
UH, I WAS GONNA SPEAK AFTER MARIO CONTU.
DO I NEED TO DO SIX? NO, UH, JUST PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS AT THIS TIME.
SHOULD I DO STAR SIX? NO, SIR.
WE CAN HEAR YOU CHAIR WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE, UH, COMMISSION.
IF WE COULD GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER AND, UM, HAVE THE APPLICANT PROVIDE REMARKS.
FERRIS CL ARMERSON BROWN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS AGREEABLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT.
THE APPLICANT WILL BE AGREEABLE TO A REQUEST DATE TO OCTOBER 24TH.
DO YOU WANNA SPEAK ANYTHING FURTHER? I THINK, UH, SAID IT.
UH, MEET YOUR BACKGROUND PLEASE AND PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS.
PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER ARMERSON BROWN ON BEHALF THE APPLICANT.
UM, THE A MR. CURTIS, IF YOU CAN MUTE YOUR BACKGROUND AND SOUND AND THEN PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE, JUST PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS.
DO YOU WANNA SPEAK ANYTHING FURTHER? I THINK, UH, THAT IT, I'M SORRY.
PROVIDE WHAT? PLEASE MAKE YOUR STATEMENT AT THIS TIME.
YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS HOWARD CURTIS.
I'M, UH, A MEMBER OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF THE BEHALF, THE APPLICANT.
UM, MR. CURTIS, IF YOU CAN MUTE YOUR, I'M HOWARD CURTIS, I'M A MEMBER OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF THE OLDHAM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UH, JUST SOUTH OF ST.
ELMO BETWEEN SOUTH FIRST AND SOUTH CONGRESS.
SO WE'RE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THIS PROJECT.
UM, I SENT THE COMMUNICATION TO MAUREEN MEREDITH ON THIS TOPIC WITH COPY TO THE APPLICANT.
I SUPPORT, UH, ON BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, MARIO CON'S REQUEST TO POSTPONE THIS CONSIDERATION.
I, AS I MENTIONED IN MY COMMUNICATION TO MS. MEREDITH, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT OPPOSED TO, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF A SOUTH CONGRESS CORRIDOR.
IN FACT, UH, WE, WE THINK IT'S NECESSARY AND AN INEVITABLE,
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BUT WE DO WANT TO SEE IT TAKE PLACE WITH APPROPRIATE CONSULTATION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE ACTIVE IN THE AREA AND, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL BE AFFECTED.AND WE, WE, WE, WE DON'T BELIEVE FOR, UH, REASONS THAT MR. CONTU HAS ALREADY OUTLINED THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.
SO WE SEEK A POST POSTPONEMENT SO THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CAN GET THOROUGHLY INVOLVED IN INTERACTION WITH THE DEVELOPER TO BRING FORWARD OUR CONCERNS AND TO DISCUSS AND UNDERSTAND THE, UH, SCOPE AND NATURE OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE THUS FAR.
MR. CURTIS, THIS IS, THIS IS, OH, THANK YOU.
THIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.
THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
SO, UH, DON'T NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, 'CAUSE THERE IS NONE.
IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION ON THE POSTPONEMENT.
DO WE HAVE, UH, Q AND A HERE? UH, COMMISSIONERS.
COMMISSIONER COX, YOU WANNA START US OFF? ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
I NOTICED WE DON'T HAVE ANY BACKUP DOCUMENTS FOR SLIDE SIX.
COMMISSIONER COX, CAN YOU ADJUST YOUR SPEAKER? WE'RE YOU'RE COMING IN AND OUT, KIND OF, IT'S NOT REAL CLEAR.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU NOW, YES, THAT'S BETTER.
UM, THE QUESTION FOR STAFF, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BACKUP DOCUMENTS FOR ITEMS FIVE AND SIX.
SO I WAS CURIOUS WHY THIS ITEM WASN'T A STAFF POSTPONEMENT VERSUS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT.
I'M ASSUMING WE DON'T HAVE BACKUP DOCUMENTS BECAUSE STAFF ISN'T READY.
I, WE DID SUBMIT DOCUMENTS REGARDING THE, UM, INFORMATION FROM THEM BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT.
WELL, NO, BUT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BACKUP INFORMATION LIKE WE DO FOR ALL THE OTHER CASES.
FOR ITEMS FIVE AND SIX, THOSE AREN'T POSTED ONLINE? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
SO, SO SHOULD THIS BE A STAFF POSTPONEMENT? N NO.
WE'RE ACT ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO, UM, PROVIDE THE INFORMATION HOWEVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS, WANTS TO SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT AND NEGOTIATE EVERYTHING AND, AND, UH, MOVE THE CASE FORWARD.
IS THAT SOMETHING NEW THAT Y'ALL DO? Y'ALL DON'T SUBMIT THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTS? NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT TYPICAL.
BUT THIS IS, UM, THIS IS HOW THE PATH WENT FOR THIS, THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
'CAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO POSTPONE.
WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN ANYTHING TO REVIEW, UM, BUT IT IS, IT IS POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT WHETHER THIS IS LABELED AS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT OR A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED WHY THIS CAME TO THE COMMISSION AS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT, NOT A STAFF POSTPONEMENT.
TROY HARDIN, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
TYPICALLY WE STILL HAVE A STAFF REPORT IN THE BACKUP.
WE HAD, WE HAD NEGOTIATIONS WHERE WE THOUGHT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT WERE IN AGREEMENT ON THE POSTPONEMENT.
SO WE DID NOT SUBMIT THE STAFF REPORT FOR BACKUP.
AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST STATED LATER THAT THEY STILL WANTED THEIR INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.
SO WE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.
UM, THE STAFF REPORTS ARE 99% READY.
WE THOUGHT THERE WAS JUST A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT IN AGREEMENT, AND THAT'S WHY WE SUBMITTED THAT BACKUP CORRESPONDENCE.
AND THEN THAT CHANGED TOWARD THE END.
AND SO WE JUST MOVED FORWARD AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION, UHHUH.
OKAY, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? UH, SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE A NO.
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JUST A, UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, VERY QUICKLY.UH, CAN YOU JUST HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THUS FAR HAS BEEN LIKE? UM, ABSOLUTELY.
UH, WE HAD OUR, UH, CITY REQUIRED MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBOR GROUP BACK IN APRIL, AND WE'VE BEEN, BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, UH, MR. CANTU SINCE THEN.
UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON OUR PLANS FOR THE PROJECT.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE AT THE ENTITLEMENT PHASE, AND SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO SPECIFICS ABOUT SITE PLAN YET.
WE'RE JUST FOCUSED ON THE ENTITLEMENT PHASE.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE, BUT, WE'LL, WE THINK THIS ADDITIONAL TIME SHOULD GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP TO WORK OUT ANY AND ALL CONCERNS.
SO A NUMBER OF THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD THAT WOULD AT LEAST BE ABLE TO BE FULLY ANSWERED BY THE TIME THAT YOU AGREE TO THE BEST WE CAN.
UM, MANY OF THE QUESTIONS DEALT WITH SITE PLAN ISSUES, UM, AND SO SOME OF THOSE WILL BE UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME, BUT WE'RE GONNA ANSWER THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE AT THIS TIME.
UH, COMMISSIONER COX? BILL, LET'S, UH, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION.
UM, ARE O OPTIONS FOR IF WE DO CONSIDER POSTPONING TO THE 24TH AND PARTIES, UH, BELIEVE THEY NEED MORE TIME, WHAT WOULD BE OUR OPTIONS AT THAT POINT? CHAIR COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW RIVERA.
SO ON OCTOBER 24TH, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE OPTION TO POSTPONE TO A TIME, TO A DATE SERGEANT AT THAT TIME.
COX, GO AHEAD AND, UH, STATE YOUR MOTION.
UH, MOTION TO POSTPONE TO OCTOBER 24TH.
COMMISSIONER CZAR, UH, WANNA SPEAK TO THAT MOTION? NOPE, I'M GOOD.
ANY OTHERS FOR AGAINST WANNA SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, UH, LET'S GO.
UH, ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? UH, MOTION.
WHAT? COMMISSIONER COX SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CZAR FOR POSTPONING TO THE 24TH OF OCTOBER.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.
NOW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE'RE JUMPING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ITEM 31 AND, UH, WE WILL, UH, START OUT WITH THAT.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION OR, OKAY.
OH, DON'T PUT THESE IN THE PRESENTATION.
I'M JORDAN FELDMAN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, I, TONIGHT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT C 20 20, 23, 20 ZONING APPLICATION PROCESSES AND DEADLINES FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I KIND OF NEED THE PRESENTATION.
WE'RE GONNA PULL UP THE PRESENTATION CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER, LADIES AND ANDREA, WOULD YOU CONSIDER TAKING A FIVE MINUTE RECESS? SURE.
COMMISSIONERS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RECESS UNTIL, LET'S GO AND MAKE IT, UH, SIX 50.
I WANT, WANT MOVE IT TO, OH, TO THE H ALL, UH,
[31. LDC Amendment: C20-2023-20 - Zoning Application Processes and Deadlines]
COMMISSIONERS.SO, UM, SEE IF WE CAN GET A QUORUM HERE AND WE'LL GET STARTED ON THIS ITEM WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION ON ITEM 31.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
BRING THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT, UH, 6 48.
AND WE WERE BACK ON ITEM 31 AND HEARING FROM STAFF.
I'M, OH, HELLO, COMMISSIONERS AGAIN.
I'M FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT,
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AND TONIGHT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT C 20 20 23 0 20 ZONING APPLICATION PROCESSES AND DEADLINES.IT'S IN RESPONSE TO CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION THAT WAS ADOPTED ON JUNE 8TH, 2023 TO CREATE A SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM THAT EXTENDS CERTAIN DEADLINES RELATED TO ZONING AND REZONING APPLICATIONS.
THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS WILL CREATE A SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM TO MODIFY CERTAIN DEADLINES FOR ZONING AND REZONING APPLICATIONS, AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATIONS, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENTS AND ZONING APPLICATIONS ARE OFTEN SUBMITTED AND APPROVED CONCURRENTLY.
SO TO ALIGN THE CASE TYPE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ALSO MODIFYING CERTAIN DEADLINES FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENTS.
SO THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS.
THE TABLE GIVES THE SUMMARY OF THE ZONING AND REZONING EXTENSIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT EXTENSIONS.
SO FOR LAND USE COMMISSION TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AFTER AN APPLICATION IS FILED, THE CHANGE FOR ZONING AND REZONING IS FROM 60 DAYS TO 120 DAYS.
AND FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT, 90 DAYS TO 120 DAYS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THE LAND USE COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION.
THE CHANGE FOR ZONING AND REZONING AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENTS IS 40 TO 80 DAYS APPLICATION EXPIRATION OF A LAND USE COMMISSION.
PUBLIC HEARING HAS NOT BEEN SCHEDULED FOR ZONING AND REZONING AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENTS.
IT'S A CHANGE FROM 181 DAYS TO 362 DAYS.
AND FOR APPLICATION EXPIRATION OF THE LAND USE COMMISSIONER CITY COUNCIL GRANTS AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT FOR ZONING AND REZONING AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENTS.
THE EXTENSION IS 181 DAYS TO 362 DAYS.
THE PROPOSED SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM WILL EXPIRE SIX MONTHS AFTER THE COMMENCEMENT DATE AND THE ADOPTED ORDINANCE, UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL OR CITY MANAGER DETERMINES IT NECESSARY TO TERMINATE THE PROJECT, THE PROGRAM EARLIER, THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE AUTHORIZED TO TERMINATE THE PILOT PROGRAM WITHOUT ADDITIONAL COUNCIL APPROVAL.
IF THERE IS A NEED FOR AN EXTENSION AND ITEM WILL BE PLACED ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA BEFORE THE EXPIRATION DATE IN THE ORDINANCE TO CONSIDER EXTENDING THE PILOT PROGRAM AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THESE CHANGES.
THE PROPOSED CHANGES WILL DECREASE THE NEED FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENTS PROVIDING MORE PREDICTABILITY FOR APPLICANTS COMMISSION MEMBERS, COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS MITIGATE THE POSSIBLE EXPIRATION OF ZONING APPLICATIONS FOR APPLICANTS THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL REVIEW TIME AND ALIGN DEADLINES FOR ZONING AND REZONING APPLICATIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATIONS TO ALLOW FOR CONCURRENT REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
SO THE ANTICIPATED TIMELINE AS CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION, OCTOBER 19TH, 2023.
AND THEN HERE'S MY CONTACT INFORMATION AND THANK YOU.
AND WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS NOW.
UM, ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, UH, WHO WANTS TO START US OUT WITH ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PILOT PROGRAM? UH, COMMISSIONER COX, I'M JUST CURIOUS, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT'S THE PRACTICAL IMPACT OF THIS FOR STAFF AND FOR THE APPLICANTS AND FOR US AS COMMISSIONERS? GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.
LAUREN MIDDLETON PRATT, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
SO INITIALLY, UM, WHEN I STARTED FIVE MONTHS AGO, I WANTED TO FIND TOOLS TO ALLOW THE PROCESS TO BE MORE PREDICTABLE.
I WAS SAYING THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF POSTPONEMENTS.
I HEARD THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS AND APPLICANTS THAT NEEDED MORE TIME TO GET THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS, AND THEY WERE RUNNING UP AGAINST THEIR POSTPONEMENTS.
AND IF THEY DIDN'T CATCH IT, MAYBE THEIR APPLICATION EXPIRED, AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO RENO IT OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY NEW FEES, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC.
WE WERE FINDING THAT THE PROCESS FOR POSTPONEMENT MEANT THAT STAFF WOULD NEED TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC, THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS WHO WERE INTERESTED IN THAT PARTICULAR ITEM WOULD COME TO SPEAK FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING ONLY TO FIND OUT IT WAS POSTPONED.
AND THEN FOR STAFF, UM, AS YOU RECALL, THERE WERE A, A LARGE NUMBER OF BACKLOGGED, UM, CASES.
AND SO THIS WOULD AGAIN, ALLOW STAFF WHEN, YOU KNOW, BRINGING ON NEW STAFF, GET THEM TRAINED UP AND GET, GET THROUGH THAT BACKLOG.
UM, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST FIVE MONTHS WE'VE HIRED NEW STAFF, AND SO WE HAVE STARTED TO, TO GET INTO THAT BACKLOG.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE CLEARING OUR CASES, BUT THERE'S STILL THAT, THAT, UM, THAT COMPONENT OF WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE COMMUNITY.
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OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO BUILD COMMUNITY TRUST AND MORE PREDICTABILITY ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND, AND OTHER CASES.AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE IMPETUS FOR THIS CAME FROM.
AND SO FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU'LL LIKELY SEE LESS POSTPONEMENTS.
UM, YOU'LL LIKELY SEE, UM, APPLICANTS ASKING FOR JUST MORE TIME TO, TO EITHER MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY OR DEAL WITH FINANCIAL NEEDS OR JUST GET THROUGH THE INTERDEPARTMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.
I'VE ALWAYS FELT LIKE APPLICATION EXPIRATIONS WERE A BIT ARBITRARY AND ANNOYING AS SOMEONE WHO'S IN THE PRIVATE CONSULTING WORLD, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT, THEY CAN BE ABUSED TO TRY TO BASICALLY AVOID NEW REGULATIONS THAT ARE COMING IN.
AND SO I NOTICED THE APPLICATION EXPIRATION EXTENSION DOUBLES MM-HMM.
WELL, DOUBLE DOUBLING THE APPLICATION DATE.
UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T THROW OUT AN ARBITRARY NUMBER LIKE, YOU KNOW, 10 MORE DAYS OR, YOU KNOW, 15 MORE DAYS.
AND LEGAL ADVICE WAS JUST TO DOUBLE IT SO THAT IT WAS CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT APPLICANTS WOULD DO, UH, MY CONCERN IS THE PUBLIC AND THOSE APPLICANTS THAT ACTUALLY NEED ADDITIONAL TIME.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO, UM, ASSIST THOSE WHO HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS.
AND SO I, I APOLOGIZE, WE, WE, WE ARE NOT, UM, LOOKING TO ASSIST THOSE WHO HAVE ILL WILL.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE, WE LOOKED AT THIS PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT.
MY COMMISSIONERS FIELDS HAS QUESTIONS.
UH, I'VE GOT SOME, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START TO KEEP THIS THING MOVING.
SO JUST, UH, UM, I GUESS FOR THIS, YOUR TIME PERIOD HERE, UH, THIS IS FOR, UM, LAUREN, THIS FOR YOU, UM, THIS MIDDLETON PR, UM, SO THE, YOU CAME ON BOARD, UH, WHAT, HOW WOULD YOU COMPARE THE CONDITIONS WHEN YOU FIRST GOT HERE VERSUS WHERE YOU ARE NOW? WE HEARD ABOUT ADDITIONAL STAFF, BUT ARE THERE CERTAIN THINGS YOU HAVE OR PLAN TO IMPLEMENT YEAH.
THAT YOU THINK MIGHT IMPROVE KIND OF THE TURNAROUND ON THESE CASES? YEAH, SO WE HAD SOME VACANCIES.
UM, AT THE TIME WE, WITH THE F Y 24 BUDGET, WE WERE ALLOCATED ONE ADDITIONAL ZONING STAFF.
AND WE HAVE BROUGHT, BROUGHT ON A CONSULTANT, UH, TO HELP US WITH THE BACKLOG.
AND SO WE ARE REGROUPING AND REORGANIZING STILL DOESN'T, UM, ASSIST US WHEN WE HAVE INTERDEPARTMENTAL REVIEW THAT TAKES PLACE.
SO THE CONSULTANT WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP THE ZONING TEAM.
BUT IF WE HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH AUSTIN WATER, T P W, WE, WE CAN'T, THE COUL THE CONSULTANT WON'T ASSIST IN THAT CAPACITY.
AND SO, UM, WE HAVE PUT MEASURES IN PLACE TO, TO ASSIST OUR EXISTING STAFF.
AND WITH THE NEW STAFF THAT WE'VE BROUGHT ON, THEY ARE PICKING UP, YOU KNOW, THEIR CASELOADS.
THEY WILL BE, THEY WILL HAVE SOME AUTONOMY AND THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO RUN THEIR CASES ON THEIR OWN.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
THIS IS A TOOL FOR THOSE, THOSE APPLICANTS THAT ACTUALLY NEED THE EXTENSION.
UH, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THE PROCESSES WILL RUN AT ITS REGULAR COURSE.
WE WANNA CONTINUE TO MEET THE EXISTING TIMELINES.
IT'S JUST AN EXCEPTION FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT.
AND I HAD A QUESTION HERE, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S RELEVANT BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID, BUT DO YOU THINK, DO YOU THINK THIS WILL AFFECT THE OVERALL RATE OF ZONING AND PLANNING CASES THAT ARE APPROVED? I MEAN, IS IT GONNA, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CASELOAD DO YOU THINK THIS IS? COULD IT POSSIBLY SLOW THAT RATE DOWN OR, THAT'S WHAT ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS WITH JUST KIND OF THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR MORE HOUSING.
WE'RE, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT MAY SLOW DOWN THE PACE.
I, I WOULDN'T, I DON'T ANTICIPATE CASES SLOWING DOWN.
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BEING DECREASED.BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT, THE APPLICANTS AREN'T RUNNING UP TO THAT 60 DAY THOSE WHO NEED IT.
THEY'RE NOT BEING IMPACTED BY THE EXISTING TIMELINES, UM, THAT ARE IN PLACE.
BUT I DON'T ANTICIPATE, AGAIN, THIS IS A PROVISION THAT YOU SHOULD NOT FEEL.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULDN'T SAY, WELL, MY GOD, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ZONING CASES ANYMORE,
YOU'LL PROB THERE WILL PROBABLY BE, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 12 APPLICANTS WHO NEED THIS IN A YEAR.
UM, AND THANKFULLY WITH ADDITIONAL STAFF, STAFF SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE BACKLOG.
AND SO YOU WON'T, YOU, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE STAFF POSTPONEMENTS, UM, THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST JUST BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET TO A ZONING CASE.
SO I, I, I DON'T SEE, UM, A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THIS ITEM AND, UH, WITH LIVING TIME.
JUST SO, UM, IF WE WERE TO, I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, AT THE END OF THE PILOT OR THE CONDITIONS TO MM-HMM.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? I WAS, UH, A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHO CAN SAY, YEAH, LET'S CONTINUE ON WITH THIS COACHING.
SO I BELIEVE, UH, CITY COUNCIL CAN ASK FOR AN EXTENSION AND CITY MANAGER CAN END IT IF WE JUST, IF PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, IN FOUR MONTHS, THEY'RE LIKE, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
WE'RE HEARING COMPLAINTS FROM APPLICANTS.
UM, THE CITY MANAGER CAN, CAN STOP THE PILOT PROGRAM AND CITY COUNCIL CAN EXTEND IT.
WOULD THERE BE AN ISSUE IF WE RECOMMENDED THAT IT COME BACK FOR EXTENDING IT BEYOND SIX MONTHS AND, AND MAKING THIS A PERMANENT CHANGE? DID IT COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION? WOULD THAT BE A PROBLEM FOR NOT AT ALL.
UM, UH, YOU WANT, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY AND THEN COMMISSIONER MAXWELL? UH, WELL I'M, I'M ALMOST GONNA RISK SOUNDING A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE BECAUSE MY QUESTIONS WERE ALONG A VERY SIMILAR LINE, BUT I JUST REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE I GET CLARITY BECAUSE IT SAYS HERE, UM, THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE AUTHORIZED TO TERMINATE THE, THE PILOT PROGRAM WITHOUT FURTHER COUNSEL ACTION.
SO MY QUESTION, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH ALONG THOSE LINES IS, BEFORE TERMINATING THE PROGRAM, WOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PROGRAM AND, AND HOW IT'S GOING BEFORE IT'S TERMINATED? YES.
WE'RE HAPPY TO ACCEPT THOSE AMENDMENTS.
WELL THEN, UH, YEAH, AND THEN, AND, AND THEN, OKAY.
SO SIMILARLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ALSO CONSIDER IT BEFORE IT GOES BACK TO COUNSEL FOR AN EXTENSION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT CLEARLY.
YEAH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE ADDITION TO WHAT I HAD ASKED, SO THANK YOU.
UH, YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY TWO QUESTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE DOING THIS AS A PILOT, WHICH I THINK MAKES SENSE, BUT WAS THERE SOME CONSIDERATION OF ACTUALLY JUST CHANGING THESE DEADLINES PERMANENTLY SO THAT WE WOULDN'T BE SORT OF IN THIS LIMBO AND THEN REVISITING? SO THAT WAS SORT OF MY FIRST QUESTION.
AND THEN SECOND OF QUESTION, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY AGAIN, ALONG THE SAME LINES, IF THE PILOT OR WHEN THE PILOT COMES TO AN END, THE DEADLINES WOULD REVERT TO THE CURRENT STANDARDS? CORRECT.
SO THEN I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
DO WE FEEL LIKE THE PILOT IS THE CHANCE TO SEE HOW THIS GOES OR, OKAY, SO WE DON'T WANNA PERMANENTLY CHANGE.
WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANNA TRY THESE DEADLINES OUT AND SEE HOW THAT GOES, AND THEN COME BACK MAYBE FOR SOME MORE DISCUSSION.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, UH, COMMISSIONER.
UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER, UH, AZAR AND I HAVE, GO AHEAD.
COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, I THINK MIGHT HAVE HAD HER HEAD COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, I'M, YES.
I'M SORRY YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.
YEAH, I WAS LOOKING FOR A ICON TO PUT MY HAND UP, BUT I GUESS I, IN THE END, SO, SO WHAT IS GONNA BE CAPTURED SO THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY WILL KNOW THAT IT'S EITHER WORKING OR NOT WORKING.
SO WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE BENCHMARKS AND WHAT WILL BE CAPTURED AGAINST? WHAT IS THE, THE, THE DATA THAT'S NOW THERE? YES.
UM, IN THE BACKUP, THERE'S SOME Q AND A, AND I BELIEVE NUMBER EIGHT, UH, TALKS ABOUT HOW WE WILL ASSESS THE SIX MONTH PROGRAM, AND THERE WILL BE TRIGGERS ALONG THE WAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE THAT 60 DAY, UM, BENCHMARK HITS, WE HAVE CASE MANAGERS WHO WILL BE MARKING THE, THE DEADLINES ALONG THE WAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, CASE NUMBER A, B, C D, F, G HIT ITS 60 DAY BENCHMARK.
AND, BUT THEY WILL, THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO POSTPONE.
AND SO WE WILL BE DOING INTERNAL CHECKS AND BALANCES TO BRING BACK, UM, TO YOU AT THAT SIX MONTH, UH, TIME PERIOD.
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Q AND A, UH, TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL FOR YOU.COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
UH, I GUESS, UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I THINK COMMISSIONER ZA WANTED TO SET US UP HERE.
CHAIR, I'LL, I'LL, UH, AS A BASE MOTION IF FOLKS WANNA ADD AMENDMENTS JUST TO MOVE THE CONVERSATION ALONG, I MOVE AHEAD WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF OUR BASE.
SO THIS IS A CODE AMENDMENT, SO IF YOU GUYS WE'RE GONNA KIND OF BUILD THIS THING FROM THE BASE.
SO IF WE HAVE AMENDMENTS, UH, THIS IS THE TIME TO KIND OF PROPOSE THOSE.
UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UM, AS I, I THINK, UM, ASK EARLIER, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADD A RECOMMENDATION, UH, AMEND THE BASE TO RECOMMEND THAT, UM, THIS ITEM COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE IT IS, UH, CONSIDERED FOR TERMINATION AND BEFORE IT IS CONSIDERED, UH, FOR EXTENSION BEYOND THE SIX MONTH PILOT.
UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT? COMMISSIONER AZAR? I DON'T, I HAVE JUST A, A SURE, JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
SO AS IT AS IT IS WRITTEN HERE, IT IS SAYING THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS AUTHORIZED TO TERMINATE THE PROGRAM WITHOUT FURTHER COUNSEL ACTION.
SO I JUST, YOU, UM, YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT SAYS BEFORE IT IS CONSIDERED FOR TERMINATION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IS, IS THERE GONNA BE A CONSIDERATION OF ANY KIND OR ARE WE JUST ASKING THAT IT COME BACK BEFORE US BEFORE IT IS IN ANY WAY TERMINATED? I DUNNO.
SORRY, I'M NO, IT'S SAY MAYBE.
WELL, I'M LOOKING FOR, UM, SHOULD WE RECOMMEND THAT IT COME BACK BEFORE TERMINATION, THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN'T UNILATERALLY YEAH.
BEFORE ANY TERMINATION, THAT IT SHOULD COME BACK TO US FOR REVIEW.
WELL, AND IF IT COMES TO US, IT PROBABLY SHOULD GO TO COUNCIL YEAH.
SO, UM, I DID NOT HAVE A SECOND.
SO MY MOTION IS, UH, I'M JUST, THE MOTION IS FOR YEAH.
THAT IT GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL BEFORE BEING TERMINATED AND ALSO, UH, FOR EXTENDING BEYOND THE SIX MONTHS.
AND SO I SEE COMMISSIONER COX SECONDED.
AND DO WE NEED ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
UH, SO I'M GONNA MAKE IT QUICK.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS AMENDMENT? NOPE.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, CHAIR
UH, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR, UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PUT A DATE IN THERE? I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WHERE WE COULD GET A REPORT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WHICH IS AN UPDATE SO WE KNOW HOW IT'S GOING ON TOP OF YOUR OTHER TWO REQUESTS.
WELL, LET'S, UH, START WITH THIS AMENDMENT AND THEN WE CAN ADD IN A RECOMMENDATION FOR A REPORT BACK MAYBE IS, UH, ANOTHER, UM, SO LET'S KEEP THOSE THINGS SEPARATE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LIKE THE SUGGESTION.
SO ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO, UH, THE MOTION I PROPOSE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER AZAR? OKAY.
UM, MOVING ON TO, I THINK COMMISSIONER ZA, DID YOU HAVE SOME, AND WE'LL GET, LET'S NOT FORGET YOURS.
UM, YES, CHAIR, CO CHAIR HAVE TWO GENERAL COMMITMENTS.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS, AND I'LL READ IT OUT HERE, CONSIDER ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES TO, THIS IS A GENERAL AMENDMENT.
IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE CHANGE SPECIFICALLY, BUT CONSIDER ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS FOLLOWED BY THE LAND USE COMMISSIONS WHEN REVIEWING A ZONING APPLICATION.
ALRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT? COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.
AND GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO, I'LL, I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK.
I THINK THERE WAS A REALLY INTERESTING CONVERSATION HAPPENING, UM, ON THE DIOCESE AND BREAKING THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WITH VICE HEMPEL, AND I WON'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK AS WELL TO THIS AS HER.
UM, BUT THERE WAS THIS CONVERSATION OF CAN WE LOOK AT OTHER STRATEGIES? IS IT LIKE BUNDLING, NPAS AND REZONING? IS THERE WAYS TO LOOK AT OUR AGENDAS? ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE MISSING AT THE LAND? USE COMMISSIONS AS A BODY THAT CAN HELP FACILITATE THIS WORK.
IF THERE'S OTHER STRATEGIES THAT WE, WHETHER THE WAY WE DO OUR OWN RULES OR WHETHER WE DO AGENDAS OR ANYTHING ELSE OUR STAFF CAN RECOMMEND AND WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO ESSENTIALLY BETTER FACILITATE THIS WORK.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS AMENDMENT? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT.
AND I THINK, DO YOU HAVE ONE MORE THANK YOU CHAIR? THERE'S ANOTHER GENERAL AMENDMENT, AGAIN, NOT TO THIS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.
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UM, ASKING STAFF TO PRIORITIZING RESCHEDULING, MISS LAND USE COMMISSION MEETINGS TO ENSURE CONSISTENT WORKFLOW AS MEETINGS GET CANCELED.AND I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
WE HAVE A SECOND ON THIS ITEM.
UH, COMMISSIONER WOODS SECOND SET IF YOU WANT TO GO AND SPEAK TO IT.
I THINK AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, PARTICULARLY INTO THE NEXT YEAR, WE ARE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ELECTION DAYS AND WE HAVE HOLIDAYS AND WE MISS COMMISSION ITEMS. AND WHAT THAT HAPPENS IS ONCE AN A MEETING GETS MISSED, IF THERE'S A BUNCH OF OF CASES AND CODE AMENDMENTS THAT SORT OF START BACKING UP.
SO THE IDEA IS HOPEFULLY STAFF CAN HELP US RESCHEDULE THOSE MEETINGS TO OTHER DAYS AND PRIORITIZE THAT, INCLUDING FINDING SPACE FOR THEM AND FINDING THE ABILITY TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING SO WE CAN MOVE AHEAD WITH THAT WORK.
SO IT'S MORE EVENLY SPREAD OUT ACROSS THE YEAR RATHER THAN THE KIND OF BUNCHING THAT WE'VE SEEN IN SORT OF CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR.
AND I, I WOULD OFFER, AND I HOPE THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM COMMISSIONERS, THAT IF WE HAVE TO MEET AT OTHER FACILITIES TO KEEP THINGS GOING, UH, I WOULD BE WILLING TO MEET ELSEWHERE FOR THOSE SPECIAL MEETINGS IF NEEDED THAT ARE NOT ON OUR TYPICAL DAYS.
SO, AND YOU TAKE A VOTE ON THE ITEM.
SO, UH, THIS THIRD AMENDMENT, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS AMENDMENT? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, THAT ONE GETS ADDED.
AND NOW COMMISSIONER COHEN, I THINK WAS LOOKING FOR MAYBE A THREE MONTH, I'LL JUST SUGGEST A REPORT ON MAYBE THE METRICS AT A THREE MONTH PERIOD.
UH, I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
IF WE COULD KIND OF SEE HOW THE PILOT IS GOING AT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.
UM, IS THAT, UH, IS STAFF SUPPORTIVE OF THAT? OKAY.
SO, UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND JUST TO ADD THAT IN THE RECORD? COMMISSIONER MAXWELL, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
ANY OBJECTION? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL, JUST A CLARIFICATION.
UM, THAT WOULD BE THREE MONTHS FROM THE ADOPTION AND INITIATION OF THE, OF THE ACTUAL PILOT? YES.
FROM THE INITIATION OF THE PROGRAM PILOT.
UH, ANY OBJECTION TO THIS RECOMMENDATION? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE HAD THAT.
AND SO COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS? COMMISSIONER CONLEY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UM, I HAVE JUST, SORRY, I HAVE JUST ONE MORE RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS TO SAY THAT IF THE PILOT IS DEEMED SUCCESSFUL, CONSIDER REC, CONSIDER AN EXTENSION THAT IS LENGTHIER THAN SIX MONTHS OR SIMPLY ADOPTING IT AS POLICY.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, IF, IF, IF THAT LAST PART NEEDS TO BE REWARDED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, BUT IT JUST, RIGHT NOW, IT STATES HERE THAT, UM, UH, WE PLACED ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA BEFORE THE EXPIRATION DATE, UM, IN THE ORDINANCE TO CONSIDER EXTENDING THE PILOT PROGRAM AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS.
AND I JUST THINK THAT IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS, THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KEEP, UM, REVISITING, DOING RE, YOU KNOW, REVISITING IT IN THESE LIKE SIX MONTH PERIODS.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE CALLING IT A PILOT AT THAT POINT.
UM, SO JUST, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, IF THE FIRST SIX MONTHS ARE SUCCESSFUL, HOW CAN WE ADOPT IT FOR A LENGTHIER PERIOD OF TIME? I'M JUST TRYING TO MESH THAT WITH WHAT WE SAID EARLIER.
SO WE HAD ASKED AT THE SIX MONTH PERIOD YEAH.
THAT BEFORE IT'S CARRIED ON, THEY BRING IT BACK TO US.
SO HOW DOES, SO THEY BRING IT BACK TO US AND, AND BEFORE IT'S CARRIED ON OR BEFORE IT'S TERMINATED, THEY BRING IT BACK TO US, BUT ONCE, IF WE DEEM IT SUCCESSFUL, WE SHOULDN'T JUST RENEW IT FOR SIX MORE MONTHS, BUT RENEW IT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, OR CONSIDER RENEWING IT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST DOING THIS EVERY SIX.
CAN WE, DO WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME? SAY THAT, YES, MR. CO, I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING.
IS ANOTHER WAY TO GET AT THAT IS WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US AT THAT TIME, WE COULD ENTERTAIN ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL PERIODS OR JUST SAY NO RECOMMEND STRONGLY, IT JUST CONTINUES PERMANENTLY.
THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO, WE HAVE THAT OPTION IF IT'S COMING BACK TO US.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD WANT, IF IT DOESN'T, IF COUNSEL DOES NOT, UM, APPROVE OUR AMENDMENTS, DO WE NEED ANYTHING, AN AMENDMENT IN THAT CASE? IF IT JUST, UM, SO IF IT DOESN'T COME BACK TO PC, UH, WOULD YOU WANT ANY OTHER MEASURES OR AMENDMENTS? I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANY AMENDMENT THAT WOULDN'T JUST IN A SENSE BE RESTATING WHAT WE'RE ALREADY ASKING COUNSEL TO DO.
SO ANYWAY, MR. AZAR, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, I FEEL LIKE I DON'T WANT US TO GET TOO CONFUSED AND MAKE IT TOO COMPLICATED, BUT WITH THE REMINDER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A SOVEREIGN BOARD, SO IF, IF SOMETHING IS MOVING FORWARD, EVEN IF IT'S NOT NECESSARILY COMING TO US, WE CAN OF COURSE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, UM, TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.
SO WE WILL HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL, HOPEFULLY TO DELVE INTO THE ISSUE.
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ALL RIGHT.SO ARE I WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENTS? OKAY.
UM, ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT THE BASE, WE'VE GOT THESE FOUR AMENDMENTS, AND SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO VOTE ON THE, THE BASE AS AMENDED.
UM, WE'LL GO AND DO, UH, RAISING A HAND.
SO ON THE DIOCESE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION AS A BASE MOTION IS AMENDED, IT'S EVERYONE AND THOSE ON THE SCREEN AND ALL GREEN AND A HAND RAISED BY COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR INDULGING US THIS EVENING ON THIS ITEM.
ALL RIGHT, WELL THAT BRINGS US TO STAFF BRIEFINGS AND HELP ME OUT HERE, MR. RIVERA.
WE'VE GOT 33 OF WHICH WE ARE GONNA HEAR A BRIEFING ON 34, 33, CORRECT.
WE HAVE A LETTER ON THOSE TWO CHAIR COMMISSION LAYS ON ANDREW RIVERA.
I BELIEVE THAT, UH, UM, STAFF WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE THIS EVENING FOR THE BRIEFINGS.
OKAY, SO 33 THROUGH 35, WHICH ONE WAS THE ITEM ON THE, UM, OUR DISCUSSION? POSTPONEMENTS? THAT'S 35.
IT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION.
37 IS, UM, DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENTS? NO, BUT TH YEAH, 35 0, 37 IS CORRECT.
GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER ZA UM, CHAIR, SIR.
UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO ITEM 33, 34 AND 35 ARE, WERE STAFF BRIEFINGS? YEAH, THAT'S THREE SEVEN IN LIEU OF THE STAFF BRIEFING STAFF, UM, HAS SENT US A MEMO THAT'S IN OUR BACKUP FOR OUR REVIEW, AND IT SEEMS LIKE STAFF IS NOT PRESENT FOR PRESENTING TODAY.
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE THREE ITEMS FORM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, 36, 37, AND 38.
THE ONE THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING IS 37.
THAT WILL THANK BE TAKING UP IN ORDER.
SO WE HAVE NOTHING ON STAFF BRIEFINGS THIS EVENING, SO WE'LL MOVE TO ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION.
UM, CHAIR? YES, COMMISSIONER COX.
UH, CAN SOMEONE POINT ME TO THIS MEMO? UH, IT IS THE MEMO IN THE BACKUP.
OH, IT'S, IT'S ITEM 35 BACKUP.
SO IT'S THERE, UH, FOR EVERYONE TO READ.
UH, LET'S SEE, ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION.
[ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION]
UH, SO WE, YEAH, THOUGHT ITEM SIX AND DEFINITELY POSTPONED, AND THEN 37, UH, THAT ONE WE DID.COULD HAVE, WE DIDN'T PUT THIS ON CONSENT, DID WE? NO.
DO YOU WANNA GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE? CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LIZ? YES.
UH, SO, UM, CURRENTLY YOUR ROLES FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ARE ON TWO SPEAKERS ON EACH SIDE AND ONE ADDITIONAL SPEAKER PER EACH SIDE.
UM, THE, UM, LAW DEPARTMENT, UH, UH, REVIEWED THE MATTER AND, UH, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH, UH, TOOMA, UH, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE, UH, TWO MEMBERS ON EACH SIDE AND ONE UNLIMITED.
SO ARE WE, SO THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE FOR OUR RULES.
UM, AND, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, THIS CHANGE? ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON 37? COMMISSIONER ZA CHAIR? I MOVE THAT WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THAT CHANGE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY, DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS RULE CHANGE? ALL RIGHT.
UH, ON 38, UH, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION PERTAINING TO SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS, UH, TO CONSIDER CODE AMENDMENTS.
UM, SO THIS, MR. RIVERA, CAN YOU GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE ON THIS ONE? OKAY.
CHAIR, COMMISSIONER
UM, THANK YOU MR. RIVERA AND THANK YOU CHAIR.
UM, SO COMMISSIONER, WE, WE HAD BROUGHT UP THIS CONVERSATION LAST TIME AND I HAD BROUGHT IT UP ESSENTIALLY TO SAY WE SHOULD CONSIDER DOING SOME SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, PARTIALLY JUST TO SCHEDULE SO THAT WE'RE SENDING ITEMS TO COUNCIL IN TIME BEFORE SORT OF THEIR WINTER RECESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, BUT ESSENTIALLY BEFORE THEIR LAST DECEMBER MEETING.
AND SO WHAT I HAD SUGGESTED WAS THAT IT, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US TO HAVE A, UM, SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON DECEMBER 5TH.
AND AGAIN, I THINK THE IDEA IS THIS IS NOT REQUIRED, 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PARTICULAR ITEMS COMING UP IN FRONT OF US AT THAT TIME.
BUT THE IDEA IS TO HAVE IT GO AHEAD AND BE SCHEDULED.
IT'S HOPEFULLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BLOCK OFF ON OUR CALENDAR.
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IF EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE TODAY, IF YOU LOOK AT DECEMBER 5TH, WHICH IS THE TUESDAY, IF Y'ALL CAN BLOCK OFF THAT EVENING, WE CAN STILL SCHEDULE THE MEETING AT A LATER TIME, FORMALLY AS NEEDED.BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE CAN HOLD THAT EVENING.
AND WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS THAT AS ITEMS ARE GOING TO COUNCIL AT THEIR LAST MEETING IN DECEMBER, IF THERE'S ANY WORK, WHETHER IT'S ZONING CASES OR CODE ITEMS, THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE, WE HAVE AN EXTRA MEETING.
AND I'M ONLY SAYING THIS BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE RAN INTO A BIT OF AN ISSUE WHERE WE RAN INTO REALLY LONG AND CONVOLUTED MEETINGS AND WE COULDN'T POSTPONE ITEMS. AND SO THIS GIVES US THAT BUFFER IF YOU DO OUR WORK, GET A BETTER WAY.
SO, CLARIFICATION, WE WOULD, I MEAN, JUST THE QUESTION.
WE WOULD ONLY USE IT IF WE NEEDED IT, BUT TONIGHT WE'RE TRYING TO SURVEY, UM, FOLKS HERE TO SEE IF WE MIGHT HAVE QUORUM.
IF YOU WANNA CHECK ON THAT, WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE CAN DO A DROP ALL FOR QUORUM.
AND THEN I WOULD SORT OF REQUEST THAT WE GO AHEAD AND BLOCK IT OFF ON OUR CALENDARS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'LL HOLD THAT DATE.
UM, AND IF NEEDED, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE A PROPER MEETING.
SO JUST A SHOW OF HANDS FOR, UH, THOSE ON THE DAAS, UM, THAT THINK THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS DECEMBER 5TH DATE.
UH, THOSE VIRTUALLY THINK THEY, UH, THAT THAT'S FIRST TUESDAY IN DECEMBER? MM-HMM.
SO THAT WOULD, UH, AND WE HAVE A FEW MISSING, SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, WE HAVE QUORUM MEET QUORUM EIGHT PEOPLE.
SO WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO TRACK THAT AND SEE IF WE NEED TO USE THAT DATE CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER, I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY AGAIN, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS FOR FOLKS WHO SAID THAT THEY CAN BE AVAILABLE THAT DAY, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND BLOCK IT OFF ON YOUR CALENDAR NOW SO THAT WE CAN HOLD IT AND IT MIGHT BE RELEASED AND YOU MIGHT HAVE AN EVENING TO YOURSELF AND YOU CAN GO AND HAVE FUN.
BUT PLEASE GO AHEAD AND BLOCK IT OFF NOW.
I'M SO SORRY TO DO THIS, BUT CAN WE, CAN WE RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON ITEM 37? UH, SO YOU VOTED IN FAVOR, SO YOU'RE ASKED FOR A RECONSIDERATION.
UM, UH, I GUESS, DO YOU WANNA GIVE US GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
I'LL BE, I'LL BE COMPLETELY HONEST.
I WAS READING THE MEMO FROM ITEMS 33 THROUGH 35, AND WE BLEW PLA PAST 37.
AND I'M, I'M READING THE RED LINES ON 37.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS EXHIBIT IS AND I'VE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
AND IF IT'S WHAT I THINK IT IS, THEN I PROBABLY WANNA CHANGE MY VOTE.
COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW RIVERA.
SO VESO IN LIEU OF THE, UH, EXHIBIT, IT'S JUST, UM, UM, STATED.
I JUST, UH, PROVIDED THE, UM, TIME ALLOTMENT.
IT WOULD, UH, BE TWO SPEAKERS ON EACH SIDE, REQUEST OF THE POSTPONEMENT AND ONE MINUTE UNLIMITED.
AND, AND WHAT IS, IF I'M ALLOWED TO ASK WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE OUR CURRENT RULES? CURRENT RULES ARE TWO ON EACH SIDE.
UH, PRIMARIES RECEIVE TWO MINUTES EACH.
UH, THE SECOND SPEAKERS RECEIVE ONE MINUTE EACH.
UH, BUT YOU CAN NO LONGER LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.
SO IF I CAN CLARIFY, COMMISSIONER COX, WE'RE ACTUALLY BEING MORE INCLUSIVE AND MORE EXPANSIVE IN ALLOWING TESTIMONY ON POSTPONEMENT.
SO WHAT MR. VERA WAS JUST SAYING WAS, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD A RULE WHERE WE LIMITED SPEAKERS ON POSTPONEMENTS, SPECIFICALLY JUST THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENTS, NOT THE ITEM ITSELF.
UM, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING THAT.
WE'RE GONNA BE SAYING ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SIGN UP AND SPEAK ON THE POSTPONEMENT ITSELF CAN SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
THE PRIMARY SPEAKERS ALL GET TWO MINUTES ON EITHER SIDE AND THEN ALL OTHER SPEAKERS GET ONE MINUTE.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY BEING MORE INCLUSIVE AND FORTH.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.
SO WE, I'LL, I'LL WITHDRAW MY REQUEST TO RECONSIDER THE ITEM.
UH, MOVING TO, UH, SO WE WERE ON 38, UM, YES.
AND I THINK WE GOTTA SHOW OF HANDS.
DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT? WE'RE DONE.
[COMMITTEE MEMBER RECOMMENDATIONS]
ALRIGHT.UH, SO COMMITTEE MEMBER RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, WE NEED YOUR HELP.
WE HAVE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME.
UM, KIND OF WHAT WE DO HERE IS WE HAVE JOINT COMMITTEES AND WE SPREAD THOSE ON AMONGST ALL OF US.
AND WE HAVE, UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER AZAR HAS BEEN WAITING EAGERLY TO HAVE YOU STEP IN AS A MEMBER OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE.
UH, SEVERAL OF US IS, HAVE SERVED ON THAT COMMITTEE AND IT IS, UH, ONE IN WHICH YOU ARE MEETING WITH, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS TO REVIEW THE, UH, IMAGINE AUSTIN
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PLAN AND THE LONG RANGE CAPITAL FUNDING PLAN.AND, UH, THAT HAPPENS, UH, EVERY COUPLE YEARS THEY'LL WRITE A, A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION, BUT YOU'RE REALLY, IT'S MORE ON RELATED TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING.
UH, WE HAVE OTHER, UH, JOINT COMMITTEES AND DURING YOUR TIME HERE WE TRY TO ROTATE AND GIVE EVERYBODY KIND OF A CHANCE TO SEE, UH, SMALL AREA PLANS IS ANOTHER ONE.
THERE'S, UH, CODES AND ORDINANCES AND, UM, WHAT ELSE AM I MISSING HERE? UH, CONCERN, JOINT SUSTAINABLE, BE SMALL AREA SOUTH OF WATERFRONT.
SO THERE'S OTHER, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSION, UH, BOARDS THAT, UM, AND SUSTAINABILITY.
AND WE HAVE WORKING GROUPS AS WELL.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER WAYS TO PARTICIPATE, BUT THESE WE HAVE TO COMMIT, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TO.
AND SO I WAS TRYING TO GET YOUR, UM, SEE IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE ON THIS PLANNING, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE AND CAN SOMEBODY, WHEN DO THEY MEET? UM, IF SOMEBODY CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
WE MEET, UM, WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT OUR MEETING SCHEDULE.
WE, WE MEET QUARTERLY AS OF RIGHT NOW, AND WE'VE, WE'RE DISCUSSING, UM, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MEET MORE FREQUENTLY THAN QUARTERLY AS, AS THE ITEMS DEMAND.
SO, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST QUARTERLY AND, AND, AND IT'S QUARTERLY.
BUT GENERALLY WE HAD DONE SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH AT NOON.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME AS COMMISSIONER COX MENTIONED, THERE WAS A BIG CONVERSATION, THE COMMITTEE FOR CHANGING THE TIME, THE DATE.
IT'S, IT'S SORT OF ALL UP FOR GRAB.
SO THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO JOIN THAT CONVERSATION AND POTENTIALLY SEE IF IT WORKS.
IS THAT, UH, DO YOU HAVE A VIRTUAL OPTION WITH THAT? YES.
SO YOU DO HAVE A VIRTUAL OPTION AS WELL.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, WOULD YOU BE, UM, WILLING TO SERVE ON THAT JOINT COMMITTEE? SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PROBABLY LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT AND THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.
MAYBE GO TO THE NEXT MEETING OR SOMETHING BECAUSE, UM, THE SECOND THURSDAY NOONTIME, UM, IS, MIGHT, MIGHT BE AN ISSUE FOR ME, BUT I REALLY NEED TO, TO, I REALLY NEED TO FIGURE THAT PART OUT.
BUT YEAH, AND, AND, AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, THAT NOONTIME IS A PROBLEM FOR ME TOO, WHICH IS WHY I'VE BEEN HAMMERING AT EVERY MEETING.
WHY ARE WE MEETING AT NOON? UM, YEAH, SO I'M TRYING TO GET THOSE MEETINGS, UH, PUSHED TO LIKE A FIVE O'CLOCK TIME MM-HMM.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLAN.
UH, AND I GUESS I'M CURIOUS IF, IF WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE PC, UM, ON THE JOINT COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE A FIFTH TUNE IN INFORMALLY, THAT DOESN'T BREAK ANY RULES, DOES IT? CAN'T, NO.
WE, UH, I REALLY, SO I HAD COMMITTED TO, I, I NEED TO LET COMMISSIONER CZAR HAVE SOME OF HIS LIFE BACK
WE'LL LIKELY NOT GONNA MEET BEFORE THEN ANYWAY.
SO I, I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH RESPECTING THAT REQUEST.
SO, SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN, UH, JUST TO EXPLAIN, WE OKAY, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.
GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
YEAH, I MEAN, WOULD IT BE, UH, POSSIBLE TO TALK WITH COMMISSIONER SARR, UM, IN, UH, MAYBE OFFLINE AND, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING? AND BY THE WAY, WHEN IS THE NEXT QUARTERLY MEETING, UM, HAS THAT BEEN SCHEDULED YET? UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE.
WAIT, I THOUGHT IT WAS SCHEDULED.
JORDAN WAS HERE BECAUSE I WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
C UH, COMMISSIONER AZAR, DO YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR CALENDAR? I I DO NOT HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME EITHER, BUT WHAT I'LL SAY IS CERTAINLY COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, I CAN OFFLINE, WE CAN SHARE THE DATES AND INFORMATION, UM, AND PROCEED WITH THAT.
APRIL, APRIL SENT IT, UH, COMMISSIONER COXIN OUR APRIL SENT IT OUT.
SO I DEFINITELY CANNOT MAKE THAT MEETING, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TRYING TO WORK AT A, UH, WORK AT A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE.
'CAUSE THAT NOONTIME WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME AS WELL WHEN I WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE.
UH, SO WHAT I HEAR IS, UH, UM, COMMISSIONER CZAR, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS WILL DISCUSS IT.
WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I, UH, IT'S LESS CLEAN, BUT, UH, THERE ARE OTHER, UH, JOINT COMMITTEES THAT WE COULD, UH, YOU
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KNOW, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS.LET'S SHARE THE SCHEDULE, MR. RIVERA.
I'LL, WE'LL GET AT THE SCHEDULE OF ALL THE JOINT COMMITTEES AND WHEN THEY MEET, UH, AND SHARE THAT.
AND FOLKS, UH, WE MIGHT SEE IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, WE COULD MAYBE SEE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SWITCH, UH, FROM ONE COMMITTEE TO THE OTHER.
UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION WE CAN LOOK AT.
SO WE'LL SHARE THE SCHEDULE FOR THE OTHER JOINT COMMITTEES AND LOOK AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
THE OTHER ONE, WE JUST WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL YOU GOT ON BOARD TO SEE IF YOU HAD AN INTEREST.
AND I'M GONNA LET COMMISSIONER WOODS SPEAK TO THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.
SO THIS IS KIND OF A LITTLE AWKWARD 'CAUSE YOU DON'T, I GUESS THE BACKUP REALLY DOESN'T ATTEND UNLESS YOU CAN'T, AND THEN YOU GOT, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF BRING THEM UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON, RIGHT.
I, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE BECAUSE QUORUM IS ALWAYS TIGHT ON THAT MEETING, AND I KNOW THAT I WILL NEED COVERAGE FOR THE MEETING ON OCTOBER 25TH, BUT OTHERWISE I EXPECT THAT I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS.
WE MEET THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH, EVERY MONTH, UM, AT 6:00 PM AT THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED.
UM, AND HAVING AN ALTERNATE FOR THAT, JUST REALLY FOR THAT OCTOBER 25TH MEETING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ALSO THINKING AHEAD WHERE I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
ANYONE, UH, WE DO NEED TO FILL THIS BACKUP ROLE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A IMMEDIATE NEED ON THE 25TH.
SO DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT, UH, WANTS TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE AS A BACKUP TO THE SUSTAINABILITY, UM, UH, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE? I NEED, I NEED SOMEBODY, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
I, I, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT AS A BACKUP.
UM, HOWEVER, THE OCTOBER 25TH MEETING MIGHT BE A PROBLEM.
MY OCTOBER, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DATES FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, KIND OF FILLED UP BEFORE I GOT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO I'M, I I WON'T, I, I I BELIEVE THAT THAT 25TH MIGHT WORK OUT, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A VIRTUAL OPTION, WHICH I BELIEVE THERE IS.
THERE IS, BUT I I COULD DEFINITELY SERVICE BACKUP ON THAT.
YEAH, COMMISSION'S ZA AND, AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO'VE SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE CAN CORRECT.
SO QUORUM IS NOT AS BIG AN ISSUE IF FOLKS DO MISS A DAY VERSUS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CODES AND ORDINANCES.
THEY'RE JUST SMALLER COMMITTEES.
SO IF YOU LOSE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, IT REALLY STARTS IMPACTING QUORUM.
SO THIS ONE, IT'S A, UH, I'M, AND I'M SORRY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA FILL THESE ROLES.
THIS ONE IS A BACKUP AND I THINK I APPRECIATE, UM, UH, SO IS THERE OTHER INTEREST? I I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED IN THIS.
SO FOR THIS BACKUP ROLL, UM, DO YOU WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE YOU IN AS A BACKUP? COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT AGAIN, THE, THE, THE ACTUAL DAYS, DID YOU SAY THURSDAY OR IT'S, UH, IT'S WEDNESDAY, THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
YEAH, AS LONG AS IT'S A BACKUP, BECAUSE I DO HAVE ANOTHER, UH, OBLIGATION I CAN, I I CAN DO THAT.
SO YES, I CAN DO THAT, BUT OKAY.
I WANT IT CLEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WILL BE A BACKUP AND I, SO THAT YES.
SO DOES THIS ONE GO TO COUNCIL AS WELL FOR FINAL APPROVAL? OKAY.
AND WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE HERE.
WELL, LET'S, UH, SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR NOMINATION FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS? COMMISSIONER AZAR, ANY OBJECTIONS TO COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SERVING AS A BACKUP ON THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE? I DON'T SEE ANY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING US OUT THERE.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA PAUSE ON, WE'LL, UH, TAKE UP 39 AT THE NEXT MEETING.
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
RIGHT.BOARDS, COMMITTEES, OH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I'M SORRY, I'M JUMPING AHEAD.
COMMISSIONER ZA, UM, CHAIR REQUEST.
WE HAD POSTPONED THE IMAGINE AUSTIN TENURE UPDATE REPORT AT THE LAST MEETING.
I'M ASKING THAT IT BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO BC ON THE OCTOBER 24TH, AND THAT WE SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR COUNCIL ON THE NOVEMBER 30TH DATE.
UM, AND SO ESSENTIALLY THIS SHOULD GIVE US TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER ANYTHING AS A COMMISSION, BUT ALSO SEE THAT WE GET THE WORK DONE IN TIME BEFORE IT HEADS TO COUNCIL.
UH, I WANT TO, SO OUR DATE FOR OUR COMMISSIONER COX, GO AHEAD.
I WAS ACTUALLY, MIGHT BE GETTING INTO WHAT YOU WERE ABOUT.
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YOU ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT THE JOINT MEETING? YES.THEN I'LL, I'LL WAIT TILL YOU SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
UH, LET ME JUST CONFIRM THE DATE.
MS. RIVERA, DO THEY HAVE A TIME SET FOR THAT CHAIR? COMMISSIONER LAY? SO, UM, THE COUNCIL WILL, UH, BE REVIEWING THIS MATTER, UM, AND, UH, AT THIS TIME IT'S LIKE, LIKE OCTOBER 26TH, UM, HERE AT CITY HALL.
THE, UH, TIME IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED, AND THIS IS ON THE HOME INITIATIVE.
DOES ANYONE, UH, DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT AT ALL? OR JUST COMMISSIONER COX? GO AHEAD.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE SHOULD HAVE AN ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, EITHER ON THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER, JUST IN CASE WE NEED TO RUN THROUGH THE LOGISTICS OF THAT.
UM, EITHER WITH STAFF OR JUST AMONGST OURSELVES.
UM, I, I GUESS NOT TO OVERCOMPLICATE THIS.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE MAYBE TO SOMEWHAT TABLE THIS CONVERSATION AND COME BACK TO IT.
I THINK STAFF IS FIGURING OUT THE DATES AND DETAILS, AND I SUPPOSE ONCE THEY'RE DONE, THEY CAN PROVIDE US WITH MORE GUIDANCE ON THIS AS WELL.
AND IF, IF NECESSARY AT THAT POINT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE MISSING INFORMATION OR WE NEED TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT.
SORRY, JUST, SORRY, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
SO WE WOULD GET A UPDATE AT OUR NEXT PC MEETING ON OCTOBER 10TH.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE THINKING? BECAUSE THEN THIS WOULD BE FINALIZED.
IS THAT THE HOPE? I, I MEAN, I'M SORRY.
SO, UH, THE COUNCIL WILL REVIEW THE MATTER ON OCTOBER 5TH, SO I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISSEMINATE AN EMAIL AFTER THAT TIME TO THE COMMISSION.
SO WOULD WE WANT TO, UH, DO WE NEED TO FORM A WORKING GROUP THOUGH AND PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA? UM, YES, CHAIR.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, DO A, ANOTHER, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS TO FORM A WORKING GROUP TO LOOK AT THE HOME INITIATIVE AS IT COMES BACK.
AND AGAIN, THE DATES ARE BEING SETTLED AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, BUT IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT WE MOVE AHEAD WITH AN OCTOBER 26TH JOINT MEETING, AND THEN NOVEMBER 14TH BC CONSIDERS THAT ITEM AS WELL.
SO IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, CREATE A WORKING GROUP AT THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN BE READY WHEN IT COMES BACK.
IS, WOULD THIS, WOULD THE WORKING GROUP THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING OVERLAP SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THE A D A D U AND DUPLEXES WORKING GROUP? WE ALREADY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? UH, GO AHEAD,
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ITEMS THAT HAVE POTENTIALLY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE OCTOBER 26TH, THERE ARE IS SOME OVERLAP, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME DISTINCT ITEMS TOO.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO DO A SEPARATE WORKING GROUP SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS.
AND IT CAN BE THE SAME OR MOSTLY THE SAME FOLKS IF THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS?
SO WE'RE, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS A PUBLIC HEARING AT BC ON OCTOBER 24TH AND ON NOVEMBER 30TH, THE PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE SAME ITEM.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
[BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES]
OUR AGENDA IS BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND WORKING GROUP UPDATES.COMMISSIONER ZA, IF I COULD, UH, HAVE ONE MORE ITEM, UM, REQUESTED IF THE, UH, CHAIR WOULD CONSIDER STARTING TO LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR DATES FOR, UM, 2024, NOT FOR ADOPTION UNTIL NOVEMBER, BUT OUR, I BELIEVE OUR NOVEMBER MEETINGS ARE GONNA BE QUITE HEAVY, SO WE MAY WANT TO BE ABLE TO JUST, UH, MOVE THOSE ON THE CONSENT.
SO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
YES, THE EXERCISE OF LOOKING AT ALL THE DATES FOR OUR MEETINGS AND MAYBE SOME BACKUP DATES AS WE SPOKE EARLIER.
WE MIGHT NEED SOME LEEWAY TO KEEP UP WITH THE CASELOAD.
UH, ALL RIGHT, SO LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
WE'LL GO MOVE THROUGH THESE, UH, SO CODES IN ORANGE TO THE JOINT COMMITTEE.
ANY UPDATES THERE? UM, CHAIR COMMISSIONER HAYNES HAD HIS HAND UP.
OH, COMMISSIONER HAYNES, I APOLOGIZE, UH, FOR FUTURE DATES.
DID, UM, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, DID YOU JUST CHANGE THE TIME FOR OUR, UH, WORK GROUP? UM, NO, I DON'T, BEL I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
THE WORK GROUP SHOULD BE SCHEDULED FOR 5:00 PM ON THURSDAY, THE 28TH.
I I JUST WANTED, IF, IF IT'S FIVE ON THURSDAY, THAT'S FINE, BUT I HAD IT AT SIX.
WHICH, WHICH ITEM WERE YOU SPEAKING TO? IT WAS FROM FIVE TO SIX 30, I BELIEVE.
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YEAH, LET'S, UH, I THINK WE, THIS IS THE TELEWORK.LET'S, UH, WE'LL CATCH THAT ON THE END HERE,
SO YEAH, WE'LL START AT THE BOTTOM THEN.
UM, THE, UH, TELEWORK WORKING GROUP.
WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FROM FIVE TO SIX 30.
UH, WE MEETING BY TEAMS. SO IF ANYONE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SEND AN EMAIL TO SEND A LINK.
AND BACK TO THE TOP, UH, CODES AND ORDINANCES, JOINT COMMITTEE, UM, CHAIR, THE CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE CONSIDERED THE, UM, PARKING, PARKING ITEM AND FORWARDED, UM, FAVORABLY TO THIS BODY.
SO WE SHOULD BE HEARING AS AS SOON.
AND THEN WE WENT OVER THE UPDATE ON SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY I LOOKED AT YOUR, SOME OF YOUR AGENDAS.
YOU, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE GOT A LOT ON YOUR PLATE, SO APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK THERE, BECAUSE THAT IS A LONG LIST OF CODE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THAT JOINT COMMITTEE.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE.
UH, WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THAT ONE? COMMISSIONER HAYNES OR COMMISSIONER COX? ANY UPDATES? UH, OUR NEXT MEETING'S, THE, THE APRIL THE 12TH, SO WE'RE GOOD.
UH, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, NO UPDATES, BUT WE'RE MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT.
SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.
UH, COMMISSIONER VATA RAMIREZ.
OUR LAST MEETING WAS CANCELED, AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN OUR NEXT MEETING IS.
I, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT EITHER.
I DON'T THINK IT'S SHOWN UP ON THE CALENDAR.
UH, SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.
YEAH, OUR LAST MEETING WAS ACTUALLY CANCELED DUE TO QUORUM ISSUES, BUT WE SHOULD BE BACK NEXT MONTH.
AND THE DRAFT PLAN IS BEING CIRCULATED SHORTLY, SO WE SHOULD SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT ONE.
AND LAST ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND DUPLEXES, WORKING GROUP.
ANYTHING, UPDATE US ON THAT GROUP.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS BEFORE I MOVE TO ADJOURN? CHAIR? OH, COMM COMMISSIONER COX? YES.
I THINK, I THINK WE'VE GIVEN, UH, OUR NEW COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, AN EXTREMELY WRONG IMPRESSION OF HOW EASY AND QUICK THESE MEETINGS GO.
YEAH, THIS WAS A, AN EASY ONE, WASN'T IT? YES.
WELL, MOVING FORWARD, GIR LO, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS
WELL, UH, MORE EXCITEMENT TO COME AND A LOT OF CODE AMENDMENTS, UH, ARE GONNA COME THROUGH THIS WAY AT THE END OF THIS YEAR AND BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
I'M GONNA GO AND ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
IT IS, UH, WHAT TIME DO WE GOT HERE, FOLKS? 42.
7 42 MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ADJOURNED.
AND BE, YOU MUST BE RIVER DOWN TO THE SEA ON.