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UH, 6 41

[CALL TO ORDER]

ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 2ND, WE ARE AT CITY HALL.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR OCTOBER MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO ORDER.

UM, SOMETIMES WE EVEN COMING FROM, UH, A DIFFERENT COUNTRY, SOMETIMES WE FORGET, UH, IN THE HUSTLE BUSTLE OF LIFE.

UH, SOME REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS, UH, TODAY HAPPENS TO BE MA MA GANDHI'S BIRTHDAY.

OH, UM, UH, GREAT, GREAT MAN KNOWN AS THE FATHER OF, UH, THE NATION AT IN INDIA.

ALSO AN INSPIRATION TO DR.

THE LATE DR.

MARTIN LUTHER KING.

UM, HE, HE HAD THIS, UH, A PRAYER THAT, UH, HE REALLY LOVED GANDHIJI, UM, AND THE WORDS, I WOULD PROBABLY SING IT AT ANOTHER PLACE, BUT THE WORDS WERE WNA WATO, IT'S IN.

AND, UM, IT SPEAKS TO, IT SAYS THAT THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE OF GOD OR GODLY PEOPLE WHO FEEL THE PAIN OF OTHERS AND PEOPLE, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL HELP OTHERS IN PAIN, BUT NOT LET THE ARROGANCE OR THE PRIDE OF IT GET INTO THEIR MINDS.

IT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL, UH, PRAYER AND, UH, I THINK IN SOME SMALLER, BIG WAY.

HOWEVER, WE SERVE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, OUR COMMUNITIES, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING, UH, WORTH, UH, KEEPING IN MIND.

UM, WITH THAT, UM, UH, DO WE HAVE, UM, ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? I KNOW MS. SARAH RUCKER, UH, HAS SIGNED UP.

COULD I, UM, SARAH, I WAS GONNA LATER.

I SEE.

SO IT'S NOT, IT'S ON A TOPIC, NOT ON, UH, DID THAT CHANGE NUMBER? OKAY.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE SHE'S ON TOPIC FIVE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY GENERAL, UH, COMMUNICATIONS.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

APPROVAL OF

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MINUTES.

UH, IF EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE LAST, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING, UH, PLEASE.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER CASADA.

ANY SECOND.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL.

ALL IN FAVOR? I ALL THE MOTION PASSES.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE, UH, AGENDA ITEM FOUR TO THE LAST ITEM UNDER THE DISCUSSION ITEMS ONLY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ALL THE ITEMS, UH, AROUND LIVE MUSIC FUND IN A SEQUENCE.

AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE, UH, ALL AGES, UH, AGENDA ITEM.

UH, IF ANYBODY COULD, UH, PLEASE.

UH, SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER HASAD.

I SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, MOTION PASSES.

UH, WE'LL MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO THE LAST ITEM ON THE DISCUSSION ITEMS AND, UH, UH, AND GO FROM THERE.

UM, AGAIN, UM, IF YOU NOTICED, WE HAVE DISCUSSION ITEMS ONLY AGAIN THIS TIME.

SO THIS WAS A NOTE FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT WE RESPONDED TO.

SO UNLESS THERE IS A SPECIFIC ACTION, UH, THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DESCRIBE THAT WE ARE GONNA TAKE ON AN AGENDA ITEM PRIOR TO PUTTING IT, UH, ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION AGENDA.

IT GOES UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS AND, UH, WHERE WE CAN KIND OF BE MORE CLEAR ON WHAT ACTION WE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE, UM, THOSE STANDARD DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. SO, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING, UH, THAT WE WILL, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT.

SO MOVING

[2. Live Music Fund collections update by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department. ]

ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS.

UH, THE FIRST ITEM HERE IS LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS.

UPDATE BY KIM MC CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, E D D.

HELLO, KIM MACARON, PROGRAM MANAGER, UM, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UH, YOU CAN DO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

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THERE WE GO.

THERE IT IS.

THERE'S THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL COLUMN OF COLORS, AND AT THE VERY TIP TOP IS THE REPRESENTATION FOR AUGUST.

SO, UH, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND PORTION OF THE HOT TAXES FOR AUGUST WAS 312,748.

AND THAT BRINGS THE FISCAL YEAR 23 YEAR TO DATE WITH ENCUMBRANCES TO 4,455,100.

AND THERE'S ONLY ONE MONTH LEFT TO CALCULATE BEFORE WE HAVE OUR COMPLETE COLUMN.

SO THE, BECAUSE THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS IN SEPTEMBER.

SO WE'LL PUT ONE MORE AND THEN WE START OVER, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME TO COMPARE.

THEN WE CAN COMPARE LAST YEAR TO THE NEXT YEAR AND ET CETERA.

SO THIS, THIS BEAUTIFUL GRAPH WILL BECOME MORE BEAUTIFUL.

LEMME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY ONLINE WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THE NEXT AGENDA

[3. Live Music Venue Virtual Meeting announcement, Shelbi Mitchell, Program Coordinator, Music & Entertainment, Economic Development Department.]

ITEM IS LIVE MUSIC VENUE, VIRTUAL MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, BY SHELBY MITCHELL, PROGRAM COORDINATOR, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, E D D.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER SHELBY MITCHELL, PROGRAM COORDINATOR AT M E D.

I AM HERE TO LET YOU KNOW, WE ARE HOSTING A FOLLOW UP FOR OUR VIRTUAL MEETING WITH THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE OWNERS.

UH, THIS WILL BE A FOLLOW UP FROM OUR INITIAL SUMMIT THAT WE HOSTED IN JULY.

WE JUST WANNA BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO DISCUSS FEEDBACK, HAVE A DISCUSSION AROUND THEIR NEEDS, UM, AND JUST IMPROVEMENTS ALL AROUND, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE APPLICATION PROCESS, GRANT SIZES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT TOMORROW AT ONE O'CLOCK.

UM, AND IT'LL ALL BE VIRTUAL THROUGH ZOOM.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR SHELBY FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER ADE? SO ALL THAT INFO IS JUST ON THE WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE CAN TUNE INTO THE ZOOM? ABSOLUTELY.

WE SHARED IT WITH VENUE OWNERS, AND THEN WE ALSO DID A GENERAL SHARING, SO EVERYBODY ELSE, IN CASE WE MISSED ANYBODY, WE'RE SAYING IT ALOUD FOR THE, THROUGH OUR NEWSLETTER.

THANK YOU.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SHELBY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THE NEXT TOPIC

[5. Discussion following update on Live Music Fund survey by Pat Buchta, Executive Directors, Austin Texas Musicians.]

IS, UH, DISCUSSION.

FOLLOWING UPDATE ON LIVE MUSIC FUND SURVEY BY PAT CHER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS.

HEY EVERYONE.

NICE TO SEE EVERYONE TONIGHT.

UM, SO YEAH, WE COMPLETED OUR MONTH LONG SURVEY ON, UH, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION.

UH, YOU KNOW, TO, WE HAD A HIGH DEMAND WITHIN OUR GROUP OF 5,000 PLUS CENTRAL TEXAS MUSICIANS TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ON THE PROCESS, ON THE APPLICATION.

WE SAW A LOT OF, UH, POSITIVE REMARKS.

WE SAW SOME LESS THAN POSITIVE REMARKS.

UH, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE, UH, THIS IS NOT ABOUT US.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT Y'ALL.

EVERYBODY HERE HAS WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD ON THIS THING, SO WE WANNA JUST UNDERLINE THAT FACT.

UM, AND THEN JUST PRESENT THE COLD DATA, UH, THAT WE GOT.

SO, FIRST UP, I'M GONNA HAVE SARAH, OUR ADVOCACY AND EDUCATION DIRECTOR, SARAH HALL, UH, JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THE VISUAL REPRESENTATION, UH, FROM THE SLIDES, AND THEN I'M GONNA PRESENT SOME OF THE, UH, ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE TEXT FIELDS.

THANK YOU.

UM, YEAH, SO JUST SCROLLING THROUGH HERE FIRST.

OH, UM, WE HAVE DEMOGRAPHICS.

UM, SO JUST FIRST QUESTION, ARE YOU A PERFORMING MUSICIAN? UH, 89.8%, YES.

UM, OH, I THINK LAUREN HAD A QUESTION.

OH, OKAY.

GOOD, GOOD.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER GOUL, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO.

OH, NO.

ALRIGHT.

UM, NEXT IS PERFORMANCE OF LIVE MUSIC.

YOUR MAIN SOURCE OF EMPLOYMENT.

UH, 61.2% SAID NO.

UH, DO YOU IDENTIFY AS DISABLED? 85.7%? NO.

10.2%? YES.

UH, THEN

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WITH WHICH GENDER DO YOU MOST CLOSELY IDENTIFY? WE HAD, UH, 51% MAN, 32.7% WOMAN, 12.2% NON-BINARY, AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHERS.

UH, WITH WHICH RACE SLASH ETHNICITY DO YOU MOST CLOSELY IDENTIFY? 57.1% WERE WHITE, 12.2% WERE MULTIRACIAL.

AND THEN WE HAD 12.2% PER PREFER, NOT TO SAY 8.2% LATINO, 6.1% ASIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER, 4.1% BLACK, AND THEN 4.1%.

OTHER, UH, WITH WHICH SEXUAL ORIENTATION DO YOU MOST CLOSELY IDENTIFY? 53.1% PERCENT WERE HETEROSEXUAL.

UH, 20.4% WERE BISEXUAL.

AND 18.4% PREFER NOT TO SAY 14.3% QUEER AND THEN 2% ASEXUAL.

UM, THEN THE ACTUAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS, UH, DID YOU COMPLETE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION? UH, WE HAD 46.9% SAY I COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION.

38.8% SAID I DID NOT ATTEMPT TO APPLY.

AND THEN 14.3% SAID I STARTED, BUT DID NOT COMPLETE THE APPLICATION.

AND THEN WE HAD QUESTIONS THAT WERE ON A RATING SYSTEM WHERE FIVE WAS STRONGLY AGREE AND ONE WAS STRONGLY DISAGREE, AND THEN THREE WAS NEUTRAL.

UH, SO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION WAS MADE TO BE EFFICIENT FOR MUSICIANS.

THE AVERAGE RATING WAS 2.3, UM, AND THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE WAS 3 33 0.3% HAD A TWO, WHICH IS DISAGREE.

THEN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION PRIORITIZES PERFORMING MUSICIANS.

2.7 WAS THE AVERAGE RATING, AND THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE WAS 46.7, WHICH WAS NEUTRAL.

I HAD ENOUGH TIME TO COMPLETE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION.

UH, WE HAD A 4.0 AVERAGE RATING, WHICH WAS, UM, AGREE, AND WE HAD 53.3%.

A MAJORITY SAY THEY STRONGLY AGREE.

I FELT CONFIDENT IN APPLYING FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AT A 2.5 AVERAGE RATING, UH, WITH THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE BEING 36.7%, SAYING STRONGLY DISAGREE.

THEN I RECEIVED HELP ON MY APPLICATION FROM A COMMUNITY MANAGER.

WE HAD 90% SAY NO, AND 10% SAY YES.

UH, COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR WAS HELPFUL IN MY APPLICATION PROCESS.

2.5.

AVERAGE RATING WITH THE MAJORITY BEING NEUTRAL, I'M GUESSING THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE NO RESPONSES.

UH, THEN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GUIDELINES WERE RELEVANT TO MY WORK AS A PERFORMING MUSICIAN HAD AN AVERAGE RATING OF 2.7, UH, WITH THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE BEING 46.7%.

UH, WITH A DISAGREE, I'M LIKELY TO APPLY FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AGAIN, UNDER THE CURRENT GUIDELINES AND APPLICATION PROCESS.

UH, AVERAGE RATING WAS 4.1, UM, WITH THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE BEING 53.3%.

UH, STRONGLY AGREE.

OVERALL, I APPROVE THE LIVE MUSIC APP, LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION PROCESS.

UH, AVERAGE RATING WAS A THREE, WHICH IS NEUTRAL, AND OUR TWO HIGHEST PERCENTAGES WERE 30% DISAGREE AND 30% NEUTRAL.

AND THEN OVERALL, I APPROVE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GUIDELINES, AGAIN, 3.0 AVERAGE RATING WITH THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE BEING DISAGREE AT 33.3%.

AND THEN I'M LIKELY TO APPLY FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF LIVE MUSIC FUND UNDER THE CURRENT GUIDELINES AND APPLICATION PROCESS, 3.3 AVERAGE RATING.

AND WE HAD 47.4% SAY NEUTRAL.

THANK YOU.

SARAH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THUS FAR ON THIS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION? YES, THERE WAS THE GREAT INFO TO PROCESS.

UM, I THINK THE FIRST QUESTION THAT COMES TO MIND IS IN REGARDS TO THE, DID YOU COMPLETE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION? SO WE HAD, UM, 38.8% SAID THEY DID NOT ATTEMPT TO APPLY MM-HMM.

, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? WELL, OUR UNDERSTANDING ON THAT QUESTION, UH, IS THAT THEY, THE ONES WHO FILLED OUT THE SURVEY BUT NOT, DID NOT ATTEMPT TO APPLY, UH, SIMPLY DIDN'T FEEL THAT THEY COULD QUALIFY FOR THE APPLICATION OR FOR THE GUIDELINES.

IS THAT THE SAME, THE SO AT, SO OUT OF

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49.

OUT OF 49, SO A GOOD CHUNK DID NOT FILL OUT THE APPLICATION? UH, IT LOOKS THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

OR DID NOT? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

YEAH.

AND I WILL CLARIFY.

PEOPLE WHO ANSWERED THAT THEN DIDN'T, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

WE HAD, UH, 72 RESPONSES IN ALL AND 49, UH, COMPLETED THE SURVEY.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING HERE.

UM, AND YOU GUYS ALSO RECEIVED AN EXCEL, UH, SPREADSHEET WITH ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, INCLUDING THIS ANECDOTAL STUFF I'M ABOUT TO READ.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT HARDER TO, UH, READ PARAGRAPHS WHEN THEY'RE CONTAINED IN A CELL INSIDE A EXCEL DOCUMENT.

SO, UH, I HAVE SUMMARIZED THOSE POINTS HERE AND, UH, I BELIEVE KIM IS GONNA SEND THESE OUT TO YOU GUYS TOMORROW.

UM, BUT LET'S GO THROUGH THESE.

UM, YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THIS.

I'M JUST GONNA READ THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE, AND YOU GUYS WILL HAVE THIS DOCUMENT TOMORROW.

UH, BUT THE QUESTIONS HERE ARE, WHY DID YOU ULTIMATELY CHOOSE NOT TO COMPLETE AND SUBMIT YOUR LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION? UH, WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THESE.

UH, NUMBER ONE SEEMS LIKE IT WAS FOCUSED ON EVENT PRODUCTION PROPOSAL.

I'M NOT AN EVENT PRODUCER.

UH, NEXT ONE WAS CONFUSION.

ANOTHER ONE SAID, ENTER EMAIL ADDRESS UNACCEPTED.

TWO MAIN ADDRESSES REJECTED.

NEXT ONE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT REALLY ONLY FOR PEOPLE, WE DIDN'T CHECK GRAMMAR ON THIS, WHO ARE GOING TO PUT ON A LIVE PERFORMANCE THAT HAS CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE.

AND WHAT I DESPERATELY NEED IS A NEW ALBUM.

DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WAS ANY HELP FOR THAT.

IT WAS ALSO A VERY CONFUSING APPLICATION.

UH, NEXT ONE, TOO DIFFICULT AND IT REQUIRED TOO MANY STEPS.

UH, NEXT ONE IS, WAS A BIT CONFUSING AS TO WHAT MUSICIANS QUALIFIED.

THE WORDING WAS CONFUSING AND SEEMED MORE FOCUSED AROUND MUSIC EVENTS AND NOT INDIVIDUAL MUSIC BUSINESSES.

UH, NEXT ONE.

THE APPLICATION WAS TOO CUMBERSOME FOR MOST INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS BY MUSICIANS.

NEXT ONE, IT SEEMED MORE APPROPRIATE FOR PROMOTERS.

UH, THE NEXT QUESTION, DID YOU EXPERIENCE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH THE APPLICATION PLATFORM? IF, IF SO, PLEASE DESCRIBE BELOW.

UH, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DID NOT.

SO I'LL READ THROUGH THOSE.

NO, NOT APPLICABLE.

UH, ONE PERSON SAID, NO ONE EVER RETURNED MY EMAIL OR PHONE INQUIRIES ANOTHER.

NO.

ANOTHER NO.

UH, ONE PERSON SAID, CONFUSING, TIME CONSUMING, SLOW RESPONSE.

ANOTHER, NO.

UH, BOTH EMAIL ADDRESSES WERE REJECTED.

ANOTHER, NO.

UH, YES.

OUTDATED SYSTEM.

HARD TO NAVIGATE AND EXCEL KEPT DELETING MY WORK.

WE KEPT HEARING THAT ONE.

UH, NO.

STILL HAVING ISSUES LOGGING IN AND RESETTING.

PASSWORD WAS TOO DIFFICULT AND UNCLEAR.

VERY CONVOLUTED, AND WOULDN'T SAVE MULTIPLE TIMES.

I THINK THAT ERROR HAS BEEN FIXED, IF I'M CORRECT.

NO, UH, BEING ABLE TO SAVE YOUR ANSWERS ON THE SITE WOULD'VE BEEN NICE.

NO, NO.

YES.

TRYING TO UPLOAD THE REQUIRED SPREADSHEETS WAS A NIGHTMARE.

WAS UNABLE TO DO SO.

I TRIED WRITING THE INFO REQUESTED, BUT I'M SURE THAT DIMINISHED MY SCORE.

UH, ANOTHER, NO, ANOTHER NOT APPLICABLE.

UH, I HAD A COUPLE OF ERRORS UPLOADING FILES, BUT IT WAS THE LAST DAY OF THE APPLICATION WINDOW.

AND I THINK, UH, WHAT DOES THIS SAY? AND I THINK THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC WAS PRETTY HIGH.

I EXPECTED THIS IN MY A ACTUAL SUBMISSION TIME.

ONCE I HAD EVERYTHING COMPLETED AND READY TO UPLOAD, WAS ABOUT HALF WHAT I ANTICIPATED IT WOULD BE.

UH, ANOTHER, NO, NO, NO, NO.

UH, YES, THE BUDGET FORM WOULDN'T AUTO COMPUTE.

AND THE ANSWERS WHEN WERE ERASED.

WHEN I WENT BACK TO TRY TO CORRECT ANOTHER SAID, FRUSTRATING.

UH, ANOTHER SAID, NOTHING TECHNICAL, NOTHING OUT OF THE NORM, AND NO.

SO BY AND LARGE, UH, WE, WE CAN PULL AN AVERAGE ON THOSE, BUT WE'RE HEARING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DID NOT HAVE AN ISSUE, UH, WITH THE TECHNICAL, UH, PORTION OF THE APPLICATION.

BUT THE ONES WHO DID, WERE, WE'RE SEEING WHY THAT WAS.

UH, NEXT QUESTION.

IN YOUR OPINION, HOW COULD THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION HAVE SERVED YOU BETTER? UH, FIRST ONE, IF IT WEREN'T TIED TO SPECIFIC EVENTS OR PERFORMANCES, BUT INSTEAD, A GRANT OFFERED IN CONSIDERATION OF LEVEL OF INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE ACTIVITY OVER THE PREVIOUS TWO TO THREE YEARS.

NEXT ONE.

NON APPLICABLE.

NEXT ONE.

YES.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.

.

UH, NEXT ONE.

WE RUN A COMMUNITY ORIENTED EVENT FOCUSED ON SERVING FAMILIES AND PAYING MONEY OUT TO A DIVERSE GROUP OF BANDS AND ARTISTS.

APPARENTLY WE WERE TURNED DOWN BECAUSE IT IS AN ONGOING CONCERT SERIES,

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SO IT WOULD'VE SERVED THE PROJECT BETTER IF THE GUIDELINES DID NOT RULE OUT ONGOING EVENT SERIES.

UH, NEXT ONE.

THE LANGUAGE WAS NOT WRITTEN FOR WHO IT WAS INTENDED FOR.

UH, NEXT ONE.

SIMPLE MORE OBVIOUS REQUIREMENTS.

UH, NEXT ONE.

LESS ABOUT CHECKING BOXES AND MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT.

UH, NEXT ONE.

PROVIDE A CLICK-THROUGH OPTION IF EMAIL ADDRESSES ARE REJECTED BY THE APPLICATION SOFTWARE.

UH, NEXT ONE.

PARAMETERS FOR FUND DO NOT SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED BY PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE FIELD OF PERFORMING.

UH, NEXT ONE MADE IT MORE FOR MUSICIANS THAN PROMOTERS.

UH, NEXT ONE DIDN'T.

NO, IT WOULD BE TAXED.

WOULD'VE BEEN NICE IF YOU INCLUDED THAT AS A LINE ITEM.

UH, NEXT ONE.

IF ELI MUSIC FUND WERE SET UP TO BE A QUICK APPLICATION EXPRESSING INTEREST WITH FOLLOW UP AND ALSO HAD AN OUTREACH COMPONENT FOR MUSICIANS WHO MIGHT NOT BE TECHNICALLY SAVVY, BUT ARE NO LESS DESERVING.

UH, THE NEXT ONE I'M GONNA SKIP BECAUSE THIS ISN'T, I CAN'T EVEN READ THIS THING.

UH, MAYBE THIS PERSON DICTATED ON THEIR PHONE.

UH, NEXT ONE.

CLEAR EXAMPLES OF HOW THE DOCUMENTS MIGHT LOOK FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF PERFORMERS.

UH, NEXT WE APPLIED FOR A DIVERSE INCLUSIVE SERIES PROVIDE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WEEK AFTER WEEK.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS.

UH, NEXT ONE.

THIS IS ALSO A SERIES FOR FAMILIES WHICH SUPPORTS MANY MUSICIANS IN TOWN AND BUILDS A COMMUNITY OF MUSIC LEARNERS.

BOTH MY PARTNER AND I ARE FAIRLY ADEPT AT NAVIGATING APPLICATIONS, BUT THIS ONE WAS PROHIBITIVELY DIFFICULT.

IT WAS CLEAR TO US THAT THIS WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR MANY PEOPLE WITH LESS EXPERIENCE TO MANAGE.

UH, NEXT ONE.

WE WERE DENIED ON THE BASIS THAT WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING IS A SERIES.

UH, NEXT ONE, FASTER DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS, FUNDS LARGER QUANTITIES OF GRANT MONEY UP TO 15,000 OR 20,000 SO THAT MUSICIANS DON'T HAVE TO SACRIFICE PAYING THEMSELVES OR PAYING THEIR PROJECT EXPENSES.

UH, NEXT ONE.

I'M ALSO SEEKING TRANSPARENCY ON THE REMAINING FUNDS.

SINCE THERE ARE MORE FUNDS THAN AWARDED APPLICANTS, I ASSUME THAT WE'LL ROLL OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR.

UH, NEXT ONE.

CLEAR LANGUAGE THAT INCLUDES BROADER ASPECTS OF THE MUSIC BUSINESS.

EXAMPLE, PRODUCERS, STUDIO, MUSICIANS, BANDS, ET CETERA.

UH, NEXT ONE, CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING.

UH, NEXT, IT NEEDS TO BE MORE PERSONAL AND NOT BASED ON A SCORE.

I FEEL THE ONLY WAY TO SUCCESSFULLY RECEIVE THIS IS TO HIRE A GRANT WRITER.

IF OUR BAND HAD MONEY TO DO THAT, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T NEED THE GRANT.

UH, NEXT ONE.

THERE SHOULD BE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS FOR RECORDING A RECORD PERFORMING OR PRODUCING AN EVENT, ET CETERA.

THE APPLICATION WAS MOST CONFUSING 'CAUSE IT WAS UNCLEAR WHETHER TO ANSWER BASED ON YOUR SPECIFIC OFFERING.

I WAS CONCERNED TO LEAVE THINGS BLANK, BUT SOME THINGS JUST SIMPLY DID NOT APPLY TO MY PROJECT PROPOSAL.

UH, NEXT, AND WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH HERE, GUYS.

I HAD A LOT OF ANXIETY WEIGHING TO GET A RESPONSE IF MY PROPOSAL WAS APPROVED.

I KNEW THERE WERE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS, AND I KNEW THAT I WOULD NOT HEAR ANYTHING UNTIL EVERYTHING HAD BEEN REVIEWED.

BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE HAD SOME WAY TO TELL WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL APPLICATIONS HAD BEEN REVIEWED, MAYBE UPDATED AT THE END OF EACH BUSINESS DAY ON A WEBSITE SOMEWHERE.

UH, NEXT, BETTER WEBSITE.

USABILITY AND LANGUAGE THAT IS STRAIGHT TO THE POINT, CLEAR OF JARGON THAT IS MEANT FOR GRANT WRITERS.

UH, MAKE IT SIMPLE AND GET RID OF ALL THE, THE COMPLEX WORDS.

UH, NEXT, IF THE PRIMARY DETERMINANT OF MUSICIANS GETTING FUNDED IS BASED ON DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND, AND INCLUSION, THEN THE CITY NEEDS TO DO A LOT MORE WORK TO EDUCATE MUSICIANS AS TO WHY THEIR FUNDING IS BEING DETERMINED THAT WAY.

ALSO, THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE THE LEAD, NOT JUST IN HOW IT ALLOCATED MONEY, BUT THROUGH D E I WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

UH, ALSO THE LONG CENTER IS AN ODD PARTNER.

IF D E I IS THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE, UH, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT ONE.

I THINK THE LONG CENTER'S DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR.

UH, NEXT COULD HAVE BEEN MORE CLEAR IN ITS QUESTIONS AND GUIDELINES.

IT SHOULD TARGET MUSICIANS, NOT HOTELS AND EVENT PLA PLANNERS.

UM, NOT SURE I WAS AWARDED, BUT I AM AN EXPERIENCED NONPROFIT ARTS PRO.

UH, LET'S SKIP TO THE LAST QUESTION.

UH, IN YOUR OPINION, HOW COULD THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GUIDELINES HAVE SERVED YOU BETTER IF IT WEREN'T TIED TO SPECIFIC EVENTS AND PERFORMANCES, BUT INSTEAD, A GRANT OFFERED IN CONSIDERATION OF WAS, IS THIS A REPEAT? YEAH, THAT'S A REPEAT.

UM, IT SEEMS SUPER IMPORTANT TO BLINDS IN A CERTAIN GEOGRAPHIC ZONE.

THEN WHEN IT WAS FUNDED, IT

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SAID YOU CAN HAVE YOUR EVENT ANYWHERE IN TOWN, AND EVEN OTHER COUNTIES WOULD'VE SAVED TIME KNOWING THAT, UH, OKAY, BEEN FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO OFFER SUPPORT FOR MUSIC SERIES AND OTHER, OTHER TYPES OF EVENTS.

ALSO, WE HAD TO APPLY WITH ONE MEMBER ONLY.

THERE ARE TWO OF US.

THE APPLICATION AND APPROVABLE PROCESS IS TOO RESTRICTIVE AND ALSO DIFFICULT.

UH, I'M GONNA SKIP TO THE VERY LAST QUESTION.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? UM, ONE PERSON SAYS HE'S DEPRESSED, AS IT AS IT IS, WHICH WE ALL FEEL THAT ONE.

UH, BUT OVERALL ON THIS LAST QUESTION, THE RESPONSES WERE POSITIVE.

UM, ONE SAID WE'LL APPLY AGAIN NEXT TIME, MAYBE JUST FOR ONE SEASON OF THE SERIES.

WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF THAT WOULD WORK TO FIT THE GUIDELINES.

UM, MORE MUSICIANS SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE NAVIGATOR HELP OPTION.

THANKS FOR SUPPORTING MUSICIANS.

UH, ANOTHER MONEY FOR ART IS A TOUGH HOOP TO JUMP THROUGH BECAUSE THE PARAMETERS FOR IT AND WHAT IT IS, WHAT IS ALLOWED TO BE DONE WITH IT GENERALLY COME FROM A RETAIL MODEL.

MODEL ART IS A COMMODITY, BUT NOT IN THE SAME WAY AS COFFEE.

AND IT GETS LOST WHEN MONEY IS MANAGED BY PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE NUANCE OF THE BUSINESS OF A FIELD.

UH, I APPRECIATE THIS BEING AVAILABLE, BUT IN THE EFFORTS OF BEING INCLUSIVE, YOU ARE NOT MAKING THE APPLICATION INCLUSIVE FOR DIVERSE SKILLS BY APPLICANTS.

UH, JUST GRATEFUL TO BE IN A CITY THAT IS DOING THIS FOR THEIR MUSICIANS.

ANOTHER ONE SAID, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR AUSTIN MUSICIANS.

UH, SO SOME GOOD RESPONSES.

I THINK AT THE END THERE.

UM, AGAIN, YOU GUYS HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION IN THE EXCEL DOCUMENT, AND KIM IS GONNA SEND THIS, UH, SORT OF DOCUMENT WITH ALL THIS ANECDOTAL STUFF THAT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO READ TOMORROW.

UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S BASICALLY THE CRUX OF IT.

UH, WE, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE AN OVERWHELMING DESIRE FROM OUR GROUP TO, UM, GATHER THIS INFORMATION FROM YOU GUYS SO THAT WE CAN, UH, WORK WITH YOU AND MOST EFFECTIVELY SERVE THEM IN ROUND TWO.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, PAT.

UM, UH, THANKS FOR, UH, PUTTING THIS SURVEY TOGETHER.

UM, IT'S, UM, GREAT TO GET SOME DIRECT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UH, ANYBODY ELSE, UH, OTHER GROUPS, MUSICIANS WHO WANT TO COME AND PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK.

UM, ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME TO THE COMMISSION AND, UM, SPEAK TO, UH, THIS ROUND OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATIONS, THE GOOD AND BAD.

UM, UH, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER, , UH, I JUST THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT SERVICE HELPING ALL OF US MAKE THE PROCESS BETTER.

YOU'RE REALLY SERVING THE AUSTIN MUSICIANS AS WELL AS THE INTENTIONS OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, WARREN.

UM, SO NEXT MONTH WE WILL PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, BASED ON THIS EVIDENCE.

UH, BUT IN SUMMARY, UH, WHAT THAT'S GONNA SHOW IS THAT WE BELIEVE, UH, 50% SHOULD STAY IN THE MODEL THAT'S CURRENTLY, UH, GOING FOR PRODUCTIONS.

AND 50% SHOULD GO TO PERFORMANCES.

UH, WHEREAS WE GET, UH, MUSICIANS THAT PLAY GIGS IN VENUES AROUND TOWN UP TO THE NOW STANDARD $200 PER MUSICIAN PER HOUR RATE.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO, UM, INVITE, UH, MS. SARAH RUCKER.

HELLO.

THANKS FOR, UM, HAVING ME.

UH, TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS SARAH RUCKER AND I AM, UH, REPRESENTING MY OWN COMPANY, FULL GALLUP, WHICH, UM, I AM A GRATEFUL GRANTEE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

SO, UM, I'M KIND OF TACKING ON TO, UM, SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL INFORMATION THAT, UM, PAT JUST SHARED, AND I THINK HIS ORGANIZATION FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AS WELL.

AND I WANT TO, UM, START WITH, UH, MY POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THE PROCESS SO FAR.

UM, I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO RECEIVE THIS FUNDING AND, UM, I'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON MY OWN, BUILDING MY OWN COMPANY FOR, UM, NINE YEARS NOW.

BUT I'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN FOR OVER 20, 20 YEARS, EXCUSE ME, UM, WORKING IN THE ARTS, AND I THINK A LOT OF, UH, MY COLLEAGUES KNOW ME FOR WORKING IN THE NONPROFIT SECTOR WITH, UM, A LOT OF, UM, GRANTEES OF CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION AND, AND THINGS THAT PREDATE, UM, ANY OF THESE CURRENT GRANTS, OF COURSE.

UM, AND SO TONIGHT I'M SPEAKING ON MY OWN BEHALF AND MY, UM, FEEDBACK AND MY EXPERIENCE THUS FAR.

BUT, UM, I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT I HAVE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME PERSONALLY, UM, THAT HAVE HAD, UM, LET'S SAY LIKE FEARS AND

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WORRIES ABOUT THE PROCESS THUS FAR.

UM, AND ALSO EXPRESS GRATITUDE, BUT ARE, UM, FIRST OF ALL, VERY BUSY EVENT PRODUCERS AND OTHER ARTISTS AND PERFORMERS IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, BUT ARE ALSO SCARED TO, UM, I GUESS, SORT OF ROCK THE BOAT RIGHT NOW, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A NEW THING FOR US TO RECEIVE THIS FUNDING.

SO, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF A FIRST FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT ARE NOT A NONPROFIT, TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS FUNDING, BOTH WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND SOME OF THE OFFERINGS OF THE CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION, UM, WHO I'VE ALSO BEEN IN TOUCH WITH .

BUT, UM, I, UH, WANT TO ECHO WHAT PAT SAID AND, AND SAY THAT ANY OF MY, UM, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM OR FEEDBACK IS NOT PERSONAL TO THE STAFF OR TO THE COMMISSION HERE.

UM, BUT JUST HOPE, HOPING THAT, UM, AS THIS, UH, GRANT, UH, GROWS AND THIS PROGRAM GROWS, THAT IT GETS SMOOTHER AND LESS FEARFUL FOR THE APPLICANTS.

UM, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD BEEN WAITING FOR FOR A LONG TIME.

I'VE BEEN, UM, BUILDING MY OWN BUSINESS, BUT REALLY, UM, FOR, FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS HAVE BEEN ACHIEVING HELPING OTHERS ACHIEVE THEIR DREAMS CREATIVELY, UM, AS AN ADVOCATE AND, AND AN EVENT PRODUCER MOSTLY.

UM, AND SO THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO FUND MY OWN PRODUCTIONS, UM, AND I'M VERY EXCITED AND GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

UM, I WAS, WE WERE GIVEN OUR AWARDING NOTICE AND AUGUST 15TH, UM, AND THEN I STARTED WONDERING WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WERE.

AND I DID REACH OUT TO STAFF AND THEY RESPONDED.

UM, THE ESTIMATE I WAS GIVEN WAS AWARDEE NOTIFICATIONS IN AUGUST AND CONTRACTS AND, UH, INSINUATING FIRST PAYMENTS IN SEPTEMBER.

SO WE'RE IN OCTOBER NOW.

AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE, THE DATES, UM, THE DATES THAT WERE COVERED WERE, UM, INCLUDING PRODUCTIONS THAT COULD BE CURRENTLY HAPPENING.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IS THAT I HAVE AN OCTOBER PRODUCTION I'M WORKING ON, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE EVEN BIGGER OCTOBER PRODUCTIONS THEY'RE WORKING ON, AND WE'RE COMING OUT OF POCKET.

SO THE PURPOSE FOR THIS, THIS GRANT IS ACTUALLY, UM, NOT TO BE TOO EXTREME, BUT IT'S DESTROYING OUR BUSINESSES.

WE ARE COMING OUT OF POCKET WHEN WE, UM, EXPECTED TO HAVE FUNDING, AND WE'RE VERY CONFUSED AND FEARFUL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE NEXT STEPS.

AND I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH LONG CENTER STAFF DIRECTLY.

I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION.

I'VE COPIED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND I'VE GOTTEN NO ANSWERS AS TO THE E T A ON THE FIRST PAYMENT.

AND NOW PEOPLE ARE SCARED ON THE REST OF THE PROCESSES.

WHEN 50% IS GIVEN, THEN WHEN IT'S 40%, IS, IS THAT GONNA AFFECT THE NEXT EVENT ON MY TIMELINE? SO I'M TRYING TO ADHERE TO MY COMMITMENTS IN WHAT I PUT IN THE APPLICATION, BUT I WILL NEED TO CANCEL MY EVENT IF IT'S GONNA DESTROY MY COMPANY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, SARAH, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UH, WITH WHAT MS. ER JUST SHARED? EXCUSE ME? UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? COMMISSIONER MILLER? WE'RE GOOD.

HELLO? HELLO? DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE YES, UH, I DID.

NOW, UH, WERE YOU GIVEN ANY ESTIMATED TIME WHEN YOU WOULD START RECEIVING THE, THESE FUNDS? NO, THE ONLY CORRESPONDENCE, WHICH WAS FROM THE AMAZING STAFF HERE WAS, UM, OVER A MONTH AGO, I BELIEVE THEY SAID THAT THEIR ORIGINAL ASSUMPTION WAS SEPTEMBER WOULD BE WHEN CONTRACT AND PAYMENT WOULD BEGIN.

UM, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED CONTRACTS.

UM, AND, AND NO, NO, NO CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE LONG CENTER THAT THE EMAIL THAT'S GIVEN TO REACH OUT FOR THAT.

MM-HMM.

PRETTY MUCH NEVER RESPONDS .

OKAY.

THAT'S MM-HMM.

.

SO THAT'S YOU'S THAT'S WHERE YOU HEAR THE FEAR IN MY VOICE IS, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE MONEY IS COMING IN AS A SELF-EMPLOYED ART CREATIVE IN THE CITY, TO BE TOLD, I DON'T KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GETTING PAID IS DIFFERENT THAN YOU'RE GETTING PAID IN 30 DAYS.

THAT'S A, THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN WORK WITH, BUT I DON'T KNOW, IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO BUSINESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, BEING HERE AND SHARING THAT FEEDBACK.

UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO CALL YOU BACK AGAIN.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR MS. RUCKER HERE? OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SARAH, FOR COMING.

YEAH.

UM, I THINK, UH, IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO COME UP HERE AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I THINK THAT EVEN, UM, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIAN NONPROFIT, UM, AND THE INFORMATION THAT, AND THE DATA POINTS THAT THEY'RE SHARING, THIS IS JUST SUCH A HUGE

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LEARNING CURVE FOR MUSICIANS, UM, TO BE PART OF THIS, AND MUSICIANS AND PEOPLE IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY TO BE APPLYING FOR GRANTS.

AND, UM, SO IT, IT IS, IT SOUNDS VERY TRICKY AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS THIS EMERGING, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE ALL LEARNING A LOT, AND I IMMEDIATELY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN IS THE MONEY COMING AND WHAT DOES THIS TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO AT THIS POINT, ERICA, I CAN, UH, REQUEST ERICA TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE AROUND, UH, AROUND TIMELINES AND THESE CONSENTS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT'S GOOD.

UM, OKAY.

WE'LL COVER IT IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

EXACTLY.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

UH, COMMISSIONER , DID YOU RECEIVE A TEST PAYMENT? YES, I DID RECEIVE THAT.

YOU DID RECEIVE THAT? YES.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

AND WHAT FOLLOWED AFTER, AFTER, UM, UH, NO, NOTHING.

UH, I SAID, SO YOU RESPONDED, YOU RESPONDED, THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE TO SEND WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS MM-HMM.

SO THAT YOU CONFIRM THAT YOU RECEIVED IT MM-HMM.

, AND THAT THERE WAS NO EVEN RESPONSE TO THAT AND NO RESPONSE AS TO WHAT IS THE TIME WINDOW BE BETWEEN RECEIVING THE TEST PAYMENT AND THE FIRST GRANT PAYMENT.

BECAUSE I, I, UM, TOTALLY APPRECIATE AND, AND, AND UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WHAT HAS GROWN THIS PROGRAM AND, AND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF HURDLES, BUT I'M VERY EXPERIENCED IN THE GRANT PROCESS IN AUSTIN, AND THIS IS NOT REPLICATING THAT, WHICH IS TOTALLY FINE, BUT WE'RE, THOSE OF US THAT DO KNOW, AND THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW AS MANY MUSICIANS AND OTHERS DON'T, ARE JUST CONFUSED.

AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NO COMMUNICATION IS WHAT I'M.

THANK YOU, MS. RUCKER.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SARAH.

ANY COMMENTS? UH, ANY DISCUSSION, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

PLEASE GO AHEAD, .

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THIS IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION AND I CAN'T WAIT TO JUMP IN EVEN FURTHER.

SO YES, MORE COMMENTS IN DISCUSSION, BUT WE'LL WAIT TILL THE NEXT TOPIC.

YES.

YEAH, YEAH.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UM,

[6. Discussion on Live Music Fund Event Program following update by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division.]

THE NEXT STAGE ITEM, DISCUSSION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM, FOLLOWING UPDATE BY ERICA SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.

THANK YOU, ERICA.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

UH, ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

I JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, SARAH, FOR BEING HERE AND GIVING US YOUR FEEDBACK AND THE AUSTIN MUSIC, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS AS WELL.

WE'RE TOTALLY AWARE THAT, UM, THIS IS A PILOT PROCESS THAT WE, UH, WILL IMPROVE AS WE GO.

WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE FEEDBACK GATHERED BY AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS, AS WELL AS THE FEEDBACK WE'VE BEEN GATHERING AND THE LONG CENTER'S BEEN GATHERING SO THAT WE CAN, UH, PIVOT ANY WAY WE CAN TO MAKE THIS MORE SIMPLIFIED PROCESS THAT DOES HAVE THE EQUITY GOAL OUTCOMES THAT WE WANNA SEE AS PART OF OUR PI GUIDELINES.

AND SO, UH, JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING AND GIVING US YOUR FEEDBACK.

AND, UM, AND ALSO I JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TIMELINE.

I HAVE THOSE ANSWERS HERE TODAY.

SO YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

AND SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS TOMORROW THE LONG CENTER WILL CONTACT EACH LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM AND ELEVATE FISCAL YEAR 2023 AWARDEE OCTOBER 3RD VIA EMAIL WITH INFORMATION ON NEXT STEPS.

SO THAT WILL INCLUDE EITHER A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVEN'T YET RECEIVED, AND THAT COULD BE AROUND INSURANCE QUESTIONNAIRES, W NINES A C H INFORMATION.

UH, THEY NEED TO GET THAT ALL IN PLACE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET THE GRANT AGREEMENTS FINAL.

AND THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, THE GRANT AGREEMENTS WILL BE SENT TO THE AWARDEES BY THE LONG CENTER, AND THEY MUST BE SIGNED BEFORE A PAYMENT CAN BE PROCESSED.

BUT THIS IS A VERY QUICK PROCESS, AS YOU CAN SEE.

SO, UH, ONCE THOSE SIGNED AND CORRECTED GRANT AGREEMENTS ARE BACK WITH THE LONG CENTER, UM, ANY, UH, UH, SIGNED AGREEMENTS THAT RECEIVE BY END OF BUSINESS TOMORROW WILL BE PROCESSED AND MONEY SHOULD BE PROCESSED BY THE NEXT FOLLOWING DAY.

IF IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S LIKE THAT, IT'S THE END OF EACH DAY.

THEY'LL PROCESS THE NEXT DAY.

AND SO JUST BE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN ALL OF THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION TO THE LONG CENTER AROUND YOUR A C H, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF THIS INFORMATION SO THAT THEY CAN QUICKLY SEND THE GRANT AGREEMENT, GET YOUR SIGNATURE.

IT COULD BE DOCUSIGN, IT COULD BE YOU PRINT IT, SIGN IT, AND AND SCAN IT, SEND IT BACK.

UM, HOW THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

THE LONG CENTER WILL GIVE AWARDEES TO GET THOSE SIGNED AND BACK TO THE LONG CENTER.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, BE THE, BECAUSE OF THE TEST PAYMENTS AND THE PROCESSES, LIKE THE PRELIMINARY PROCESSES WITH THE LONG CENTER AND AWARDEES, UM, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH CAN PRESS GO.

AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE ALL OF THE FIRST PAYMENTS OUT BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

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UH, THIS WILL BE TRUE FOR ELEVATE AS WELL.

AND SO THAT IS THE GOAL IS BY THE END OF THE WEEK, AND IF THERE IS ANOTHER PAYMENT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, LIKE, OKAY, 50% IS UP, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK I HAVE THIS 40% THAT I NEED TO GET, THAT IS POSSIBLE.

YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, DO YOUR NEXT REPORT SAYING THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I JUST SPENT MY FIRST 50% ON, THIS IS WHAT I NEED FOR THE NEXT 40%, AND THAT CAN BE PROCESSED IN DUE ORDER.

SO I, UM, WE, WE WISH THAT THE PROCESS GETTING HERE DIDN'T TAKE SO LONG, WE UNDERSTAND, BUT THIS WAS THE INITIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, COORDINATION WITH A THIRD PARTY AROUND THIS MAJOR, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT THAT'S GONNA LAST FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND SO WE HAD TO GET IT RIGHT.

AND SO THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE JUST HAD TO HAMMER OUT, MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, SO THAT THEN WHEN THIS DAY CAME, WHERE WE COULD SAY, OKAY, YOU'RE GETTING YOUR EMAIL AND THESE ARE THE NEXT STEPS, THAT IT COULD GO VERY SMOOTHLY WITHOUT ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU KNOW WHO TO TALK TO.

IF IT'S QUESTIONS AROUND YOUR AGREEMENTS AND PAYMENTS, YOU TALK TO THE LONG CENTER.

IF YOU WANNA TALK TO, UM, SOMEONE ABOUT, HEY, I'M HAVING, YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE TRYING TO BOOK THIS VENUE, OR I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO USE THIS BUDGET SO THAT I CAN TRACK OUR EXPENSES, YOU CAN TALK TO CITY STAFF ABOUT THAT.

SO WE'RE HERE TO HELP MENTOR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR PROJECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO HELP YOU GET IT DONE AND GET IT DONE AS INTENDED THROUGH THE PI GUIDELINES.

LIKE, IT'S OKAY IF A VENUE FALLS THROUGH OR SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE CAN PIVOT.

AS LONG AS THE SCOPE IS THE SAME, WE CAN PIVOT AND WORK WITH YOU TO GET, GET THAT DONE.

AND SO WE AS CITY STAFF WILL HELP YOU WITH THAT.

AND THEN THE LONG CENTER IS THE POINT PERSON FOR ALL THINGS ADMINISTRATIVE RELATED TO THE AGREEMENTS AND TO PAYMENTS AND ALL OF, AND REPORTING.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WISH THIS HAD GONE FASTER.

JUST KNOW THAT ALL OF US, INCLUDING THE LONG CENTER, THE CITY, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT THESE, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY, A LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY THAT WE JUST HAD TO BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS CORRECT.

SO THAT GOING FORWARD, WE HAVE LESS AND LESS ISSUES WE JUST WANTED, YOU KNOW, TO DO IT.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS, QUESTIONS FOR ERICA ONLINE? UH, UM, OH, I'M SORRY.

COMMISSIONER CASAD, I'LL CALL ON YOU AFTER COMMISSIONER.

OH, I'M SORRY.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

OH, OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

.

UM, SO I THINK WHAT COMES TO MY MIND IS HAVE WE HAD ANYONE FROM THE LONG CENTER HERE AT THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS YET? NO, NOT YET.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO TYPICALLY WE'LL DEAL WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC.

UH, WE'RE KIND OF ON POINT, AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE RELATIONSHIP IS SET UP FOR THESE TYPE OF PUBLIC, UH, MEETINGS.

IT'S THE CITY'S ON POINT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THE LONG CENTER, JUST LET ME KNOW.

MAYBE SEND THEM TO ME SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT, AGAIN, THIS IS A BRAND NEW RELATIONSHIP, WHAT'S APPROPRIATE SO THAT WE CAN SEE, HEY, DOES, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR THE LONG CENTER TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS? OR CAN WE GET SOME, UH, INFORMATION FROM THE LONG CENTER AND THEN DELIVER THE ANSWERS? AND SO I JUST DON'T KNOW.

AND SO JUST LET US KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOU.

I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LONG, THINNER, I KNOW, UM, ERICA, THAT YOUR STAFF AND TEAM HAVE REALLY, UM, MADE YOURSELVES EXTREMELY, UM, AVAILABLE AND VULNERABLE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, CRITICISM FRANKLY, AND BEING OPEN-HEARTED TOWARDS THIS.

AND SAME WITH THE MUSICIANS.

EVERYONE'S IN THIS VULNERABLE PLACE MM-HMM.

OF SAYING LIKE, I AM DOING THIS APPLICATION THE BEST I CAN.

THIS IS NOT MY SKILLSET OR WHATEVER.

YEAH.

BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ONE PIECE THAT WE'RE NOT FULLY ANALYZING IS PERHAPS THE LONG CENTER, AND HOW MUCH OF THE STAFF RESOURCES OVER THERE, ARE THEY CONTRIBUTING TO THIS? ARE THEY FEELING THE HEAT THE WAY THAT WE ALL ARE? I KNOW THEY HAVE HAD THEIR 15TH ANNIVERSARY AND HAVE BEEN REALLY BUSY.

OH, I SEE.

YEAH.

AND SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO HOW MANY STAFF, LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND IS THAT AN AREA OF IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION AND ANALYSIS AS WELL? WELL, ACTUALLY, THEY, THEY'RE PRETTY WELL STAFFED AND THEY HAVE THE, THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO GET MORE STAFF AND MORE, YOU KNOW, AS TO ALLOCATE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNDS IF NEEDED TO GET THE WORK DONE.

WHAT THIS DELAY WA, UH, WAS ABOUT WAS NOT ABOUT JUST THE INTERNAL WORKINGS OF THEM DOING EVALUATIONS AND WORKING INITIALLY WITH, UH, APPLICANTS AND AWARDEES.

THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF DOING THAT.

IT WAS JUST THE OVERALL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE LONG CENTER HAD TO BE, UH, JUST SOME FINAL ELEMENTS HAMMERED OUT OF THIS MAJOR, MAJOR CONTRACT THAT IS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS CONTRACT OVER FIVE YEARS.

AND SO IT WAS THAT THAT DELAYED.

IT WAS

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JUST GETTING THAT COMPLETELY HAMMERED OUT, BUT IT WAS FOR THE BEST IT NEEDED TO HAPPEN SO THAT IT WAS VERY CLEAR, WE WANNA PROTECT THE LONG CENTER, WE WANNA PROTECT THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND WE WANNA PROTECT ALL APPLICANTS AND AWARDEES THAT, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS.

SO IT JUST TOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME JUST TO BE SURE THAT ALL QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED, THAT WE, UM, WERE COMPLETELY ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, BEFORE MOVING FORWARD OF LIKE, FRENETICALLY TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE INCORRECTLY.

AND SO THAT IT WAS MORE ABOUT A DELAY JUST FROM A, A, A, A BIGGER STANDPOINT THAN, UH, THE LONG CENTER NOT ABLE TO DELIVER BECAUSE OF LACK OF STAFF.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL.

SURE, SURE.

I DON'T KNOW, I JUST KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL HERE, YOUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, THE MUSICIANS, THE NONPROFITS INVOLVED ARE ALL LISTENING, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS, THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN REAL TIME HERE IN A, IN A PUBLIC FORUM MM-HMM.

BASICALLY.

MM-HMM.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT DOES, I THINK, MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO EVERYONE.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO THANK, THANK YOU.

AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.

SO THIS IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST THE GROWING PAINTS AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT E EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN AS WE GO FORWARDLY YEAH, IT'S GONNA GET ORGANICALLY GROW TO, OH, LOOK WHO'S HERE.

MM-HMM.

YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.

AND WE'LL KNOW MORE AS WE GO AND, AND IMPROVE AS WE GO, BECAUSE WE NOW KNOW MORE .

AND SO, AND, AND THAT AS FRANKLY AS A KIND OF SPREADSHEETY TYPE OF A PERSON, YOU KNOW, THAT I, I DO FEEL THAT, UM, THAT TIMELINES ARE VERY COMFORTING.

MM-HMM.

, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE TIMELINE WAS, UM, AVAILABLE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

SO PLANNING COULD TAKE PLACE OF LIKE MM-HMM.

, THIS IS WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, AND PERHAPS THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME COMFORT AND REASSURANCE IN TERMS OF, UM, PRODUCING YEAH.

WHATEVER EVENT OR PROJECT.

YEAH.

WE HAD INTENDED THAT PROJECTS WOULD START IN AUGUST, AND IT JUST, THE TIMING, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT THE WAY THAT WE HAD HOPED.

WE TRIED VERY HARD TO GET ALL OF THE ELEMENTS CLEANED UP AND, AND TIED UP BEFORE, BUT AGAIN, HAD TO DO IT RIGHT.

AND IT TOOK MORE TIME.

I MEAN, THIS IS A MAJOR CONTRACT, UM, AND WHICH IS FINE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL LIKE IN A WONDERFUL PLACE NOW AND A MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN WE WERE.

BUT I KNOW THAT'S, UH, NOT A GREAT COMFORT TO APPLICANTS AND AWARDEES WHO ARE WAITING ON FUNDS.

AND SO FOR THAT, I MEAN, I WISH WE COULD'VE GONE QUICKER, BUT WE WENT AS FAST AS WE COULD GO.

AND SO ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED ALREADY STARTING AUGUST ONE, WE WILL REIMBURSE THAT.

YOU WILL GET REIMBURSED FOR PAST EXPENSES THAT STARTED AUGUST ONE THAT IS KNOWN BY THE LONG CENTER.

IT'S, UH, AND IF ANY OF THE AWARDEES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU NEED TO POSTPONE, BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, I JUST CAN'T DO THIS ON MY OWN.

I GOTTA WAIT TILL THIS FUND'S COME IN, POSTPONE.

THAT'S NO BIG DEAL.

WE'LL DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO HELP AWARDEES, UH, SUCCESSFULLY DO THEIR PROJECTS.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE AS FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE WITH THAT.

IT JUST HAS TO HAPPEN ACCORDING TO THE SAME SCOPE AS WHAT WAS PROPOSED AND, AND SCORED, UH, TO BE AN AWARDED APPLICATION.

SO WE WILL WORK, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GOLD.

COMMISSIONER GOLD.

YOU'RE ON MUTE.

UH, IT'S, I AM NOW IT SAYS IT'S MUTED HERE.

WE GOOD NOW? NOTHING.

YOU'RE GOOD? NO, NO.

WE CAN GO.

WE ARE GOOD NOW.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SAY THAT, UH, SARAH, IF YOU'RE STILL IN THE ROOM, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND SHARING THAT.

AND, UM, YOU ARE HEARD MM-HMM.

, AND, UM, I THINK THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN IN THAT POSITION, UM, IN OTHER WAYS, IT'S NOT EVEN SO MUCH THE DELAY, IT'S THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION AROUND THE DELAY.

AND SO IF, IF, UH, WE CAN ASK, IF THE LONG SENDER HAS MORE STAFF FOR IT AND MORE BANDWIDTH TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE APPLICANTS SO THAT THEY KNOW, OKAY, YOU SAID SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER HAS PASSED, I NOW DO NOT KNOW WHEN I'M GOING TO GET THIS MONEY.

IT'S NOT EVEN SO MUCH THE DELAY, IT'S THE NOT KNOWING, RIGHT? LIKE, OBVIOUSLY DELAY THE DELAY IS NOT GOOD, BUT LIKE, YOU'VE GOTTA COMMUNICATE EVERY SINGLE THING IN LIFE COULD BE MADE BETTER BY BETTER COMMUNICATION.

AND SO WE'VE GOTTA COMMUNICATE WITH THESE APPLICANTS.

WE'VE GOTTA LET THEM KNOW IF THE TIMELINE IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY STATED.

WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE RESPONDING TO THESE EMAILS.

WE HA IT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO NOT COMMUNICATE THESE THINGS BECAUSE HAVING TO POSTPONE YOU SAY IT'S NO BIG DEAL.

IT IS A BIG DEAL FOR THE PEOPLE PRODUCING THE EVENT.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU ARE STARTING TO PROMOTE IT AND YOU'RE BOOKING PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE HOLDING IT ON THEIR CALENDARS.

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IT IS A BIG DEAL TO POSTPONE.

SO LIKE, WE GOTTA COMMUNICATE THIS WITH PEOPLE, HOWEVER IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IF IT'S THROUGH THE LONG CENTER OR WHATEVER.

BUT LET'S PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.

BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY, I'LL JUST SHARE A QUICK THING.

THIS SUMMER, I HAD A MOMENT.

IT WAS A VERY SLOW SUMMER WAS ONE OF THE WORST ONES FOR ME FINANCIALLY.

IN THE MANY YEARS I'VE BEEN WORKING PROFESSIONALLY AS A MUSICIAN IN AUSTIN, I WAS WAITING ON A PAYMENT FROM A CITY GIG THAT WAS LIKE, COOL.

BOTH MY HUSBAND AND I WERE ON THIS GIG.

IT'S GONNA MAKE IT WORK FOR US THIS MONTH.

IT'S GONNA MAKE US HAVE MONEY TO BUY GROCERIES.

LIKE I'M TALKING ESSENTIALS OF LIFE AND HEY, IT DIDN'T COME IN, DIDN'T COME IN, DIDN'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS GONNA COME IN.

I'VE BEEN IN THAT SITUATION AND IT IS NOT COOL AND IT IS A BIG DEAL.

SO WE GOTTA COMMUNICATE.

IF WE COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE, THEY CAN PLAN, THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO MITIGATE THAT.

BUT COMMUNICATION IS SO IMPORTANT.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU'ALL.

YES, DEFINITELY.

THANK YOU.

UH, VERY MUCH HEARD.

AGREED.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO BETTER.

WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER THIS LAST SIX WEEKS, BUT AGAIN, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF GETTING IT ALL NAILED DOWN.

AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU FROM THIS MOMENT FORWARD, THERE WILL BE CONSISTENT AND, UM, GOOD COMMUNICATION GOING FORWARD, AND I CAN GUARANTEE THAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, COMMISSIONER ADA, I, I WONDER LIKE EVEN WITH MANY OTHER KIND OF PROJECTS OUT THERE, LIKE IN THE WORLD OF DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION OR SOMETHING, THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONTINGENCY PLAN IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO WRONG.

LIKE IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE, UH, YOU MAY, PERHAPS GOING FURTHER, IF THERE WAS A DELAY, IS THERE SOME KIND OF 5% CONTINGENCY IF PEOPLE HAVE TO POSTPONE THEIR EVENT AND THERE'S A EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS DUE TO OUR LEARNING CURVE? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD LOOK, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN, UM, JUST THE CONTINGENCY PLAN? OH YEAH.

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THAT DATA IS.

SO ANY AWARDEE WHO'S HAD TO GO OUT OF POCKET ADDITIONALLY OVER THEIR, WHAT WAS BUDGETED, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE IT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS.

UM, HI ERICA.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR, FOR COMING TONIGHT.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE TIMELINE THAT YOU SHOWED WHERE THE, UM, AWARDEES ARE GONNA BE CONTACTED STARTING TOMORROW.

MM-HMM.

, DO THEY, DO THEY ACTUALLY KNOW THAT, THAT THIS PROCESS IS GONNA FINALLY START TOMORROW? IS, OR IS STAFF AT, AT, UM, THE LONG CENTER? HAVE THEY ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THEM? YES.

SO ALL, UH, SO APPLICANTS OR AWARDEES HAVE BEEN REACHED OUT BOTH TO GET THAT INITIAL DOCUMENTATION, THAT FINANCIAL DOCUMENTATION, LIKE THE INSURANCE QUESTIONNAIRE, THE W NINE, UM, THAT STUFF HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE LONG CENTER OF ALL THE AWARDEES, AS WELL AS A PAYMENT TEST SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED FOR ALL AWARDEES AS WELL, JUST TO TEST IT SO THAT WHEN THIS MOMENT CAME WHERE WE COULD, LIKE I SAID, UH, PRESS GO, THAT EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND READY TO GO.

SO, UM, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND, UH, THAT, UH, IF YOU'VE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE LONG CENTER REQUESTING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, PLEASE SEND THAT ASAP.

THEY CAN'T, UM, FINISH THE GRANT AGREEMENT WITH YOU UNTIL THEY HAVE ALL REQUESTED INFORMATION BACK.

UH, SO THAT THEN THEY CAN, THEY HAVE ALL THEY NEED TO GET THE GRANT AGREEMENT TOGETHER TO SEND BACK TO YOU SO YOU CAN SIGN IT.

AND THEN THAT'S WHEN A PAYMENT GETS PROCESSED.

AND SO THE TEST, UH, WAS FOR THAT, JUST TO BE SURE THAT ONCE ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS ARE DONE, THAT A PAYMENT GOES QUICK.

SO THEN THE, THE, THE TEST PAYMENT WENT OUT FIRST AND NOW THEY HAVE TO SEND MORE PAPERWORK INTO ACTION? NO, THEY, THAT WAS REQUESTED.

THIS'S BEEN REQUESTED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.

IT'S JUST FOR ANYONE WHO HAS MISSING STUFF THAT THEY STILL HASN'T SENT.

SO, SO SARAH THAT'S THERE, SHE'S ALREADY HAD THE TEST PAYMENT, SO SHE'LL GET PAID TOMORROW.

IT, IT JUST DEPENDS.

IF THE LONG CENTER HAS ASKED YOU FOR ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE SEND IT BACK TO THEM.

BUT IF THEY HAVE WHAT THEY NEED, THEN THEY'LL BE FOLLOWING BACK UP TOMORROW WITH IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NEEDED.

UM, BUT IF NOT, THEN THEY'LL FOLLOW UP TOMORROW WITH GRANT AGREEMENTS AND SAY, GET THESE SIGNED AND SEND THEM BACK.

AND IF YOU SEND THEM BACK BY FIVE O'CLOCK, WE CAN PROCESS A PAYMENT BY TOMORROW.

IF YOU SEND THEM BACK BY TOMORROW AT FIVE O'CLOCK, WE CAN PROCESS THEM THE DAY AFTER.

BUT IF THEY ASK, HEY, WE STILL NEED YOUR INSURANCE QUESTIONNAIRE, YOU DIDN'T SIGN YOUR W NINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT JUST WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING THAT JUST WASN'T, UH, DONE, THEN THEY'LL REQUEST THAT FIRST AND THEN SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE GRANT AGREEMENT TEMPLATE COMPLETE FOR SIGNATURE.

COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, OH, SORRY.

DID I MISS YOU? MY APOLOGIES.

SO I'LL GET TO YOU.

SO I'M

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WONDERING, DOES THE CITY HAVE ACCESS TO SOME KIND OF, LET'S SAY A PETTY CASH FUND THAT COULD FORWARD THE MONEY FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO IN GOOD FAITH, UH, WE FULLY EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, TO, TO BE APPROVED? CAN THE CITY PROVIDE A NO-COST LOAN TO THEM TO BRIDGE FROM TOMORROW? EVERY, SAY, EVERYBODY GETS REJECTED AND THERE'S NOTHING FASTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH A LONG CENTER.

THE MONEY IS IN HAND WITH THE LONG CENTER TO DO THE PAYMENTS.

UH, THEY JUST NEED THE AGREEMENTS.

WE CAN'T DO A PAYMENT WITHOUT A SIGNED AGREEMENT FOR THE PAYMENT.

AND SO THAT'S HAPPENING TOMORROW.

AND SO THE MONEY IS THERE, LIKE THE CITY CAN'T DO MORE THAN THAT.

WE WOULD NEED TO SEE A GRANT AGREEMENT THAT'S SIGNED, THAT HAS ALL THE ELEMENTS IN PLACE.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR IS TO PULL ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS TOGETHER SO THAT WE HAVE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE FOR THIS TAX MONEY.

YOU KNOW, THAT HAS TO BE SPENT A CERTAIN WAY AS, AS OUTLINED IN THEIR APPLICATIONS.

SO IT IS JUST A, IT IS YOU, YOU KNOW, JUST TO PROTECT THE, THE PROGRAM, THE FUNDING AND THE MONEY IS THERE.

SO PAYMENTS WILL START GOING OUT THIS WEEK.

SO COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, IT LOOKS LIKE EVEN, EVEN IF THEY'RE THERE TO BE A STOP TAB SOLUTION, THAT KIND OF, THAT PERIOD HAS PASSED.

LIKE WE ARE AT THE PLACE WHERE NOW THE MONEY WILL GO OUT, SO, YEAH.

UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY.

UM, SO WELL SOMETHING TO CONSIDER NEXT TIME AROUND FOR WHAT? I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.

OH, I JUST SAID THAT EVEN IF THERE WERE TO BE A STOP CAP, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S AN EASY SOLUTION TO PUT IN PLACE.

OH YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT EVEN IF THERE WERE TO BE, I THINK WE ARE PAST THAT POINT, IS WHAT I WAS JUST SHARING WITH THEM.

YEAH.

I MEAN, THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE CAN DO IF ALL ELSE FAILS AND SOME CATASTROPHIC THING HAPPENED, WE COULD LOOK AT A WAY TO DO A BRIDGE LOAN, BUT WE DON'T NEED, WE ARE AT TO THE POINT OF PAYMENTS, UH, THIS WEEK.

YEAH.

GOT IT.

COMMISSIONER KADA.

OH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF ALMOST SPEAKING OF THE SAME THING IN TERMS OF CONTINGENCY PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND, AND WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, IS THE PAYMENT ELECTRONICALLY DISTRIBUTED OR IS IT MAILED? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE AWARDEE REQUESTS.

AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE PA THE FINANCIAL DOCUMENTATION ALONG CENTER'S BEEN REQUESTING FROM AWARDEES.

IS THAT INFORMATION? IT COULD BE A C H, IT'S JUST DEPENDING ON HOW THE AWARDEE WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BLEVINS.

THANK YOU.

I REALLY, THIS QUESTION I GUESS IS FOR SARAH REALLY IS IF AWARDEES HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED TO, I THOUGHT THAT SHE HAD SAID EARLIER THAT SHE HAD NOT HAD ANY COMMUNICATION UP UNTIL TODAY.

AND DOES SHE THINK THAT SHE'S MISSING ANYTHING? I JUST, MY FEAR IS THAT ALL INTENTIONS ARE GOOD AND THEN TOMORROW AT SIX O'CLOCK, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS FOR SOMEONE, SARAH'S HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH FILLING OUT THESE GRANT APPLICATIONS AND EVERYTHING.

WHAT WAS HER LAST COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE NEXT STEP? I THOUGHT SHE SAID THAT SHE HADN'T RECEIVED ANY IN A WHILE.

UM, AND THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL HAPPENING TOMORROW.

RO WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME AND SHARE ANYTHING FURTHER? JUST ANSWERED.

THANK YOU.

UM, I, I RECEIVED MY TEST PAYMENT, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEEK, THE 26TH OR THE 27TH, LET'S SAY.

UM, AND SO I GOT THE EMAIL SAYING, UM, YOU SHOULD RECEIVE A TEST PAYMENT, PLEASE RESPOND WITH THAT AMOUNT.

AND I DID SO IMMEDIATELY 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN WATCHING MY EMAIL LIKE A HAWK AND, AND THERE'S BEEN NO COMMUNICATION ON WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS.

SO THAT'S, AGAIN, OUR, AND I SPEAK FOR OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, OUR NERVOUSNESS IS THAT WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT ERICA JUST SHARED.

LIKE WE, THAT'S NOT BEEN PUBLICIZED, SO.

GOT IT.

I THINK, UM, YEAH.

YEAH.

NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YEAH.

UM, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED HERE, UM, BY, UM, ERICA AND ALL OF US HERE, THAT THERE, THERE ARE SOME COMMUNICATION GAPS THAT IS A LESSON LEARNED.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN, UH, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE, UM, UH, WORK EFFORT.

IT'S, UH, THE RELATIONSHIP IS NEW, SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME USE CASES WHERE THAT HAVE JUST NOT BEEN SOLVED FOR BEFORE AND HAVE TO BE SOLVED IN REAL TIME, I THINK.

BUT WHAT IS VERY WELL, UH, COMMUNICATED AND UNDERSTOOD AT THIS POINT IS WE CAN'T HAVE, UH, INFORMATION VACUUMS WHERE IT'S STRESSING PEOPLE OUT.

MM-HMM.

, UM, ABOUT NOT KNOWING.

UH, I, I THINK THAT'S BEEN EMPHASIZED PLENTY.

UM, SO I, I JUST WAS CURIOUS, UH, IF, UH, IF MR. AKA HAS NOT RECEIVED, WAS SHE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE SOMETHING BY NOW? IT'S KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE CONCERN THAT COMMISSIONER BLEVINS JUST EXPRESSED MM-HMM.

, UM, WHAT SHOULD SHE BE LOOKING FOR OR, OR OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT? SO TOMORROW THEY'LL BE RECEIVING AN EMAIL FROM THE LONG CENTER

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SAYING, OKAY, NEXT STEPS HERE EITHER IS IF THEY HAVE EVERYTHING, BECAUSE THEY WOULD'VE HAD TO GATHER INFORMATION TO DO THE TEST PAYMENTS.

LIKE THEY, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU WANNA BE PAID? WHAT IS YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER? YOU KNOW? AND THEN, UH, ALSO JUST THE ELEMENTS TO CREATE THE AGREEMENT.

THAT SHOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN A COMMUNICATION THAT HAD HAPPENED.

AND THIS IS IN THE LAST FOUR WEEKS, YOU KNOW, SO THEY, IF THEY HAVE EVERYTHING, THE COMMUNICATION WILL BE, HERE'S YOUR GRANT AGREEMENT, SIGN IT, RETURN IT BY FIVE O'CLOCK, AND THEN YOU CAN, SO WE CAN SET UP A PAYMENT FOR TOMORROW.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND SOMETHING TO, UH, CONSIDER FOR FUTURE, EVEN, LIKE, IF WE CAN, UM, HAVE A DAILY UPDATE ON THE WEBSITE WHERE FEW FOLKS CAN JUST GO AND TAKE A LOOK AND WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE LATEST AND GREATEST WITH THESE GRANTS MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, DELAYS GET COMMUNICATED.

THAT'S WHERE, UM, ANY UPDATES, UH, GET COMMUNICATED OR THE NEXT COMMUNICATION TO EXPECT FROM, FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, GRANTEES.

NO PROBLEM.

YEAH, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD, WOULD BE PRETTY HELPFUL TOO.

MM-HMM.

AND PEOPLE, YOU SHARE THAT LINK IN OVER EMAIL INITIALLY? YEAH.

YES.

YEAH, I THINK, YEAH.

SO FOR, FOR NOW, DEFINITELY THERE WILL BE ONGOING COMMUNICATION WITH THE LONG CENTER.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF IT'S ABOUT AGREEMENTS AND PAYMENTS, UH, THE LONG CENTER WILL BE YOUR POINT OF CONTACT.

YOU'LL SEE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION IN THE EMAILS GOING OUT TOMORROW.

AND THEN WE WILL ALS, UH, FOR STAFF WILL BE THE CONTACT FOR HELP US WITH OUR PROJECTS.

WE'RE CONFUSED.

I'M NOT, I I NEED HELP COORDINATING SOMETHING IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT.

SO THAT'S WHAT STAFF WILL DO.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE OPEN OFFICE HOURS EVERY WEEK FOR AWARDEES TO COME AND JUST ASK US QUESTIONS, BRING ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP, AND WE'RE GONNA DO IT AS A GROUP SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR EVERYBODY'S ANSWERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH LIKE CAD AND, YOU KNOW, WITH ELEVATE NEXUS, THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITIES.

SO, HEY, COME AND, AND LISTEN, LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

UH, SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT WEEKLY AND WE'RE THINKING ON TUESDAYS, BUT AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE'LL PUBLISH IT ON THE WEBSITE.

WE WILL LET YOU GUYS KNOW THROUGH EMAIL, THROUGH THE MUSIC COMMISSION, AND WE'LL ALSO POST THIS INFORMATION IN THE NEWSLETTER, THE E D D NEWSLETTER AND THROUGH DIRECT E-BLAST TO ALL OF THE AWARDEES.

SO THERE WILL BE REGULAR COMMUNICATION.

THIS WAS A SETTING UP SITUATION, AND WE DO REGRET, UH, THAT IT TOOK LONGER THAN WE WANTED IT TO.

UH, BUT CERTAINLY LEARNING FROM THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, WE WILL MAKE THAT EFFORT TO BE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION LEARNED LIKE, OH, THIS ISN'T WORKING WELL, HOW DO YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TEXT MESSAGING WORKS BETTER.

AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT IS HOW TO REGULARLY ENGAGE, UM, ALL OF OUR AWARDEES WHERE MAYBE IT'S EITHER A TEXT OR AN EMAIL, WHATEVER THEY PREFER TO KIND OF HAVE THESE ONGOING UPDATES AND THEN JUST A PLACE TO COME TO ASK US QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PROJECTS SO THAT THEY CAN GET HELP TO GET THEM DONE AND, AND HAVE, AND MAKE THEM BETTER.

UH, WE'RE HERE TO HELP WITH THAT AND SERVE.

SO, UM, BUT I ANTICIPATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS POINT, YOU'LL SEE REGULAR COMMUNICATION AND IMPROVEMENTS.

SAME THING, LIKE I SAID, APPRECIATE PAT COMING IN AND GIVING THOSE SURVEY RESULTS.

WE HAVE OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, DATA WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING AS WELL.

SO THAT WILL BE THE NEXT STEP BEFORE WE LAUNCH ANY NEW APPLICATION OF DEFINITELY LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN DO IT BETTER, MEET THE AWARD, THE APPLICANT WHERE THEY ARE, SO THAT, UM, IT'S A MORE SIMPLIFIED AND AN EASIER PROCESS TO APPLY, UM, FOR F Y 24, BECAUSE THIS JUST KEEPS MOVING, MOVING QUICKLY.

SO, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD TO DO THIS INITIAL EXTRA WORK TO BE SURE THAT AS WE, THAT WE'RE JUST LIKE A TRAIN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TURNING AND BURNING.

AND SO WE HAD TO DO A FEW THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS POSSIBLE.

AND I JUST WANNA THANK ALL OF THE AWARDEES AND SARAH AND EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

UH, WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU.

THIS, THIS FUND IS FOR YOU.

AND SO, UM, WE'LL JUST DO BETTER AND, UH, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.

UM, ERICA, ANY, UM, OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UM, ON WHAT'S BEEN SHARED OR, UM, JUST, JUST ON, ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND TOPIC? OKAY.

UM, ERICA, I'M CURIOUS, UM, ABOUT SINCE THE CONSULTANTS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, UM, IN THE PAST, IF, WHERE, WHERE THEY ARE AT AND WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE ARE THEY DRIVING TOWARDS FOR, UH, EVALUATING THE USER EXPERIENCE AROUND THESE GRANTS? YES.

SO, UM, I MORGAN, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, UM, INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MORGAN IS, UM, WORKING ON A PROCESS IMPROVEMENT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A PROCESS IMPROVEMENT THAT WE'LL BRING TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING AND EXPLAIN OUR NEXT STEPS

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FOR BRINGING ON THE RIGHT HELP TO MAKE OUR PROCESSES BETTER, MORE EQUITABLE, EASIER.

YOU NAME IT, WE HEARD YOU.

AND SO WE'RE BRINGING ON LOTS OF SUPPORT TO REALIZE THAT FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF APPLICATIONS.

ARE THERE ANY EARLY FORMING IDEAS AROUND HOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEXT ROUND OF, UH, APPLICATIONS, LIKE HOW, HOW, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT LEVEL OF UPDATES ARE WE THINKING ABOUT? I HAVE, THAT WILL BE SOMETHING FOR US TO BRING BACK TO YOU.

UM, BUT JUST KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD FEEDBACK ACROSS ALL AREAS OF ISSUES.

AND SO WE WILL BRING BACK A PLAN, UH, BACK TO BOTH COMMISSIONS.

THE MUSIC AND ARTS COMMISSION, UH, ALONG WITH MORGAN MESSICK IS KIND OF LEADING THAT CHARGE FOR US.

AND, AND SO WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WE KNOW MORE IN HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC? THANK YOU, IKA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU PAT.

AND, UH, SARAH AND SARAH IKA HERE.

MOVING ON.

UH, THE

[4. Discussion on all ages shows and how we support youth in Austin.]

NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM IS DISCUSSION ON ALL AGES SHOWS AND HOW WE SUPPORT YOUTH IN AUSTIN.

UH, COMMISSIONER CASDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THAT? YES.

THANK YOU ALL.

SO, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, UM, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ITEM ABOUT ALL AGES SHOWS AND, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, DAVILA AND COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND AND I, UM, GOT TOGETHER, UM, FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD AND, UM, WERE KIND OF, OUR GOAL WAS TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY OF HOW WE COULD, UM, LISTEN AND LEARN ABOUT, UM, ALL AGES SHOWS AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, SO, UH, THAT COULD BE HELPFUL TO THAT, UM, COMMUNITY.

AND SO WE MET WITH GRAHAM WILLIAMS, WHO IS THE C E O OF RESOUND PRESENTS.

UM, JUST SAYING THIS ALOUD FOR EVERYONE HERE.

UM, THEY, UH, RESOUND PRESENTS, UM, BOOKS QUITE A FEW SHOWS AND DOES A LOT OF LIKE, MARKETING AND CREATIVE EXPERIENCES, UM, IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

AND, UM, SO WE HAD A, A GREAT, UM, MEETING WITH HIM, UM, AND HAD SOME INTERESTING FEEDBACK.

UM, AND I THINK THAT, UH, FOR THE NEXT, UM, HOPEFULLY FOR THE NEXT MEETING, HE, HE WOULD, UM, LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME, UM, JOIN AND SHARE HIS EXPERTISE.

UM, IT DOES SEEM THAT SOME KIND OF INCENTIVIZING ALL AGES SHOWS COULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

UM, AND LET ME SEE, LET ME PULL UP SOME NOTES.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND WASN'T, UM, ABLE TO JOIN US THIS EVENING, DO SOME, DO SOME PERSONAL THINGS, BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO READ, UM, A FEW OF HIS, UM, MEETING NOTES.

UM, ONE THING THAT, UH, GRAHAM WILLIAMS HAD, UM, POINTED OUT THAT WE, I THINK WE WERE ALL VERY INTERESTED IN WAS OF ALL THE, YOU KNOW, ARTS DISCIPLINES, WHETHER IT'S VISUAL ART OR FILM, UM, OR PERFORMING ARTS.

IT, IT'S AMAZING THAT, UM, THE MUSIC INDUSTRY SEEMS TO BE SO CLOSELY TIED TO ALCOHOL AND THAT ALCOHOL IS, UM, DEFINITELY A, UM, AN ISSUE WITHIN ALL AGES SHOWS AND CERTAINLY FOR THE VENUES.

AND, UM, SO I THINK THAT'S A NOTEWORTHY DIFFERENCE THAT COULD BE IMPACTING OUR ALL AGES SHOWS.

UM, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UM, UH, SOME OF HIS WRAP UP NOTES FROM THAT MEETING WERE THAT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER MEETING WITH THE T A B C, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EXAMINING THEIR PERSPECTIVE OF THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND IF IT'S LEGAL FOR THEM TO COME, UM, TO SHOWS, LET'S, LET'S INVESTIGATE THAT MONITORING A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UM, ALSO, UH, ANOTHER POINT WAS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

AND I THINK YOU WANTED TO, UM, COMMISSIONER DAVILA KIND OF EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, UH, WE WERE TRYING TO FIND, UM, ACTUALLY CONSIDERING VENUES, UH, WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE, UH, SOME SHOWS, UH, FOR THE YOUTH.

AND, UM, I SUGGESTED MAYBE FIESTA GARDENS, UH, THE OLD, UH, PORTION OF FIESTA GARDENS, WHICH IS, UM, THEY HAVE THE FACILITY AND EVERYTHING, AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S FENCED, IT'S PRIVATE AND IT CAN BE HELD.

IT, UH, I THINK SOME GOOD SHOWS COULD BE HELD THERE AT THE, UH, AT THE OLD FIESTA GARDENS, THE ONE THAT BEHIND THE JOHNNY THE WAY OUTTA THE PAVILION.

SO, UM, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER VENUES BUT, UH, THAT, THAT WERE MENTIONED MM-HMM.

, BUT, UM, I WAS FAMILIAR WITH, WITH FIESTA GARDENS .

SO, UH,

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I, I REALLY FEEL THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, UH, GOOD PLACE FOR, FOR THE YOUTH.

THAT THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

IT'S AMAZING.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE REALIZING IS WE, WE, AUSTIN DOES HAVE A QUITE A, UM, BIT OF RESOURCES AND GREAT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES LIKE EQ AUSTIN OR DAWA, CERTAINLY, AND THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.

AND SO SOME OF IT IS JUST CONNECTING THE DOTS AND REALIZING THAT, UM, THAT KIDS TODAY, WHILE THEY MAY AT TIMES BE CONSIDERED THIS MARGINALIZED GROUP, UM, THEY SHOULD BE PART OF OUR, OUR PIE, UM, STRATEGIC, YOU KNOW, GOALS AND, AND, UM, SO WE'RE KIND OF CONTINUING TO EXPLORE THAT.

AND THEN ALSO THAT COULD IT BE FINANCIALLY BENEFICIAL FOR ARTISTS AND VENUES TO WORK ALL AGES SHOWS IF UNDERAGE PERSONS ARE PAYING MORE FOR A TICKET.

SO IF THEY'RE NOT BUYING ALCOHOL, IS THERE LIKE AN UPSELL FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDERAGED OR, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CLEARLY ENTERED THE WORLD OF LIKE, MOCKTAILS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FANCY DRINKS THAT DON'T HAVE ALCOHOL IN THEM.

SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO EXPLORE AS WELL.

UM, UH, I KNOW GRAHAM WILLIAMS ALSO BROUGHT UP THE, UM, WHICH WAS KIND OF INTERESTING, THE, THE NEVA, THE NATIONAL INDEPENDENT VENUE ASSOCIATION, AND WHAT A POWERFUL FORCE THAT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND OF COURSE, OUR, UM, COLLEAGUE IN THE INDUSTRY, CODY, UH, COWAN IS NOW THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, AND HE MAY, UM, BE SOMEONE THAT WE COULD TAP INTO TO EXPLORE THIS, UM, FURTHER.

UM, AND IT ALSO SEEMS IN TERMS OF THE, YOU KNOW, T A B C AND THE, UM, THE TAXES WITHIN THAT, UM, THERE IS NOW THAT TEXAS MUSIC INCUBATOR REBATE PROGRAM.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, CLUBS CAN, UM, LET'S SEE, PROVIDE, UM, FULL OR PARTIAL REBATES UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR MUSIC VENUES OR MUSIC FESTIVAL PROMOTERS AND IN TEXAS.

SO THAT'S GREAT WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE AND THAT WE SHOULD, UM, EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO, UM, WE ARE EXCITED FOR THIS TOPIC TO REMAIN ON OUR AGENDA AND, UM, TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION AS WE COME UP WITH, UM, MORE ACTION ITEMS IN AREAS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT, UM, THE YOUTH IN AUSTIN.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CASRE.

ANY, UH, DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE TOPIC? EXCUSE ME.

UH, COMMISSIONER ILLA, YOU KNOW, I, I MENTIONED FIESTA GARDENS, BUT THAT, THAT PLACE IS VERY CONTROLLED TO WHERE, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALCOHOL.

MM-HMM.

IN, IN THERE, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE, UH, JUST 'CAUSE YOU WOULD CONTROL THE, UH, THE EVENT AND, AND WHAT THEY HAVE.

WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY ALCOHOL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL? UH, YOU MENTIONED THE TEXAS, UH, A B C.

DO YOU THINK THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO COME INTO, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS? I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE, I'VE NEVER HAD ANYONE FROM THE STATE.

WE, WE, PLENTY OF PEOPLE FROM THE CITY HAVE COME BEFORE THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

I'VE NEVER HAD ANYONE FROM THE STATE, UH, DURING OUR MEETING.

UM, I KNOW COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND WAS, UH, DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN PROPOSE THAT WE INVITE SOMEONE FROM T A B C TO COME TO THE MEETING.

SO AGAIN, HE WASN'T ABLE TO JOIN US THIS MEETING, BUT WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE THESE TALKS AND SEE IF WE CAN INVITE SOMEONE TO COME AND EXPLORE THIS ISSUE, UH, FURTHER.

THANK YOU.

UM, YEAH, I THINK, UM, JUST, JUST LIMITING MUSIC TO ONLY VENUES, UM, THAT, UH, IS CENTERED AROUND ALCOHOL.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ONE, UH, ONE AVENUE.

UH, AND, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS AVAILABLE, UH, AS PART OF ENTERTAINMENT AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR, FOR, UM, FOLKS IN THE CITY.

AND IT'S, AND ALSO FROM A MUSICIAN CAREER PERSPECTIVE, IT'S A FANTASTIC AVENUE.

UM, THAT SAID, I THINK IT IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE OPEN UP MORE AVENUES FOR MUSIC IN THE CITY BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO LARGE DIASPORAS THAT WILL, UH, NOT NECESSARILY PARTAKE, UM, IN MUSIC, UM, THAT, UH, IS NECESSARILY ONLY IN A CLUB.

SO I THINK EVEN IN INTERACTING OR BUILDING, UH, ENVIRONMENTS, EVEN AROUND THE VENUES WHERE IT'LL ENCOURAGE, UM, THE DIVERSE DIASPORA THAT WE HAVE IN AUSTIN TO COME INTO THE CLUBS, UH, AND ENJOY THE MUSIC AND BE PART OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE IN THAT ECOSYSTEM.

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IT'S THERE.

THERE'S SO MANY.

I, I FEEL LIKE, UH, UH, UH, OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO CREATE WIN-WIN SITUATIONS.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, AGAIN, I THINK WE LEAVE OUT LARGE PARTS OF THE DIASPORA.

THERE WAS DIASPORA THAT DON'T COME AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT MAINSTREAM LIVE MUSIC ECOSYSTEM.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT CAN BE DONE.

UM, AND I THINK, SO JUST, UH, AND THAT OF COURSE AUTOMATICALLY INVOLVES, UH, THE YOUTH AS WELL FROM THESE COMMUNITIES WHO CAN COME AND ENGAGE IN, IN, IN MUSIC.

AND, UH, THIS, I JUST FEEL THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE THAT CAN BE, UH, EXPLORED.

COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL.

YEAH.

WELL, IT'S NOT JUST THAT THE AVERSION TO ALCOHOL IS THE PROBLEM.

HEY, YOU GO TO SEE A BAND IN A CLUB, THE HEADLINER DOESN'T COME ON UNTIL 10:00 PM AND THAT'S LATE FOR KIDS AND ADULTS AND, AND EVERYBODY, THERE'S THIS, THERE'S THIS CULTURE AROUND THAT.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD MORE, MORE EVENTS STARTING AT SIX OR 7:00 PM I AGREE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.

MOVING ON

[7. Discussion and possible action to confirm 2024 Music Commission meeting dates.]

THE, WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS, UH, AGENDA DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONFIRM 2024 MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING DATES.

UM, DID UH, SHELBY HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE, OR SHOULD I JUST GO OFF? OH, ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU NEED PAPER, I HAVE.

SO THE, IT'S IT'S FIRST MONDAYS FOR ALL MONTHS EXCEPT FOR JANUARY AND, UH, SEPTEMBER.

WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF SOME HOLIDAYS OR WE HAVE TO HOLIDAYS, RIGHT? BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO MONTHS, RIGHT? WHERE IT'S NOT THE FIRST MONDAY, JANUARY.

AND, UH, SO INSTEAD OF, I THINK IT'S JANUARY 1ST OR SECOND, I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT EIGHTH AND THEN, UH, SEPTEMBER 9TH.

OKAY.

IF, UM, EVERYONE HAS, UH, TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT, UH, COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING DATES FOR 2024? I MOVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER DAVILA.

ANY SECONDS? OH, COULD, COULD YOU PUT THOSE DATES BACK UP AGAIN, PLEASE? YEAH, I'M STILL LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR.

.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

GO AHEAD.

AND, UH, EVEN IF I GET A SECOND, WE CAN KEEP IT OPEN FOR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE.

LOOKS GOOD TO ME.

I CHECKED WHAT I NEEDED TO CHECK.

SO SECOND.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER GOUL.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION PASSES.

MOVING ON.

[8. Discussion and possible action to vote on musical performance feasibility at Music Commission meetings.]

THE NEXT ITEM, UM, ON THE AGENDA.

LAST ITEM, UH, FOR TODAY IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO VOTE ON MUSICAL PERFORMANCE FEASIBILITY AT MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS.

IF I REMEMBER IT RIGHT, THE LAST TIME WE HAD LEFT IT AT POTENTIALLY HAVING SOME PERFORMERS ONCE A QUARTER OR ONCE IN TWO MONTHS.

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE EXACT DETAIL? I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED IT UP.

WEREN'T WE GONNA GET, UM, SOME FEEDBACK ON FEASIBILITY ON FEASIBILITY QUARTER? YES, I THINK IT, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER WHETHER IT WAS ONCE IN TWO MONTHS OR ONCE IN A QUARTER THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

THAT'S A LITTLE PIECE.

ONCE IN A QUARTER IS WHAT THE MINUTES REFLECT.

SO ONCE IN A QUARTER.

YEAH, IT'S NUMBER IT EIGHT IN YOUR MINUTES.

SO DID WE GET THE FEEDBACK FROM NUMBER SEVEN NUMBERS BE ON WHETHER THE BUDGET CAN HANDLE THAT, AND UH, COULD WE, IF WE ARE DOING IT ONCE A QUARTER, COULD WE HAVE, UH, MAYBE MORE THAN ONE ARTIST? REALLY? AT LEAST TWO? AT LEAST TWO, IF NOT THREE, WILL I IT'D GO FOR THREE.

WELL, I, I'D THE WAY WE DID IT BEFORE YEAH, EVERY MONTH EACH DISTRICT YEAH.

WOULD GET SOMEONE.

SO THERE'S 11 OF US, SO YEAH, IF WE COULD DO THREE PER QUARTER, YEAH.

AND ONE ONCE, WE'LL, ONCE WE'LL DO TWO.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN START 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, AND, AND, AND YEAH.

AND DO IT LIKE THAT.

SO HOW ABOUT THREE? SO, UM, IS THERE, UM, IS THERE ANY, UH, FURTHER FEEDBACK ON FEASIBILITY FROM, UH, CITY STAFF BEFORE WE GO AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS? I'M SORRY, WHAT? I DON'T HOW DID IT WORK IN THE PAST? WHAT DO YOU, WHAT KIND OF TIMING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AND DOING IT IN THIS? SO

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YEAH, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS VERY QUICK THAT HERE.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER BLEVINS VERY QUICKLY, UH, WHAT WE WERE DOING DURING THE PANDEMIC WAS HAVING VIRTUAL, UH, JUST SOMEBODY, UH, MUSICIAN SEND A VIDEO.

UM, AND WE WOULD INTRODUCE THE ARTIST AND HAVE THE VIDEO.

WHAT WE ARE EXPLORING NOW, UM, AS YOU KNOW, IS, UH, HAVING, UH, LIVE PERFORMANCES AGAIN AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

UM, WHAT WE GOT FROM, FROM THE EARLIER MEETINGS WAS THAT, UH, UH, IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT ALL THE AV AND EVERYTHING FOR EVERY SINGLE MEETING, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE ONCE A QUARTER, ONCE TWO OR THREE MONTHS.

SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE EXPLORING THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD WE, IF IT IS FEASIBLE, WE CAN VOTE ON IT.

UM, COULD WE DO THREE ARTISTS ONCE A QUARTER AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION COMING AND PLAYING LIVE, UM, POTENTIALLY WITH MAYBE SMALLER SETS ENCOURAGED? I'M SORRY, WHAT? REALLY WHAT I WAS ASKING IS HAS THIS BEEN DONE IN THIS SPACE BEFORE? YEAH, SO WE DO, FOR MUSIC PROCLAMATIONS, WE HAVE MUSICIANS LIKE A LIVE BAND UP TO, I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT INPUTS OR 10 INPUTS, SO HOWEVER MANY WE CAN PLUG INTO THAT.

WE DO THAT WEEKLY AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

UH, AND WE WORK WITH, UH, A T X N ON THAT PROCESS TO GET THEM LOADED IN QUICKLY, DO A QUICK SOUND CHECK, AND THEN DO IT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, FOR MUSIC PROCLAMATIONS, THOSE ARE OUR CITY HALL SESSIONS.

SO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY, THE KNOWHOW, HOW TO DO IT.

IT'S JUST THAT, UM, HAVING THE APPROPRIATE STAFF HERE TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH IS JUST NOT ATTAINABLE.

AND SO EVEN IF IT'S THREE TIMES A QUARTER, THAT'S STILL ALMOST MONTHLY.

I SUGGEST ONCE A QUARTER FOR THE LIVE PERFORMANCES.

AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS A VIDEO, UH, IN THOSE OFF MONTHS.

AND WE WILL STILL PAY THE, OUR STANDARD RATE REGARDLESS IF IT'S LIVE OR VIDEO.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING THANK YOU IKA.

UH, UH, AND COMMISSIONER BLAVIN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS MAYBE SKIP OUT THE TWO MONTHS, BUT HAVE A, UH, UH, THREE ARTISTS PERFORM ONCE A QUARTER.

OH, I SEE IT ONCE.

IT'S LIKE ON ONE THING.

YEAH.

IF YOU WANNA MAKE THAT YOUR, PUT IT ON YOUR AGENDA, YOU CAN, YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL MUSIC FOR THE ENTIRE THING.

WELL, IF WE'RE DOING THAT, IT'S CONVENIENT THAT WE'RE DOING, AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE SCHEDULING THE MEETINGS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD INSTANCES WHERE OUR MEETINGS GO LONG AND IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE ARTISTS PERFORM, THAT'S GONNA BE AT LEAST 30 MINUTES WOULD BE OPTIMISTIC ADDED AT, AT THE START OF THE SHOW.

SO WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS START EARLIER THAT WE CANNOT DO.

SO WE HAVE A SCHEDULE LAID OUT WITH CITY HALL, AND THIS IS OUR SCHEDULE STARTING AT SIX 30.

SO WE CANNOT CHANGE THAT UNLESS WE LOOK FOR A NEW LOCATION.

BUT, UM, MY SUGGESTION IS WHEN YOU FORM YOUR AGENDA FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE INSTANCES, JUST BE MINDFUL OF WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

HOW ABOUT THE STEPS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF CITY HALL? I'VE BEEN TO SOME PERFORMANCES OUT THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE CITY HALL.

YEAH, WE USED TO DO A A, UH, LET'S SEE IF IT WAS MUSIC ON THE PLAZA SERIES, RIGHT WHEN THE PANDEMIC HAPPENED, THEY RIPPED OUT ALL THE ELECTRICAL OUT THERE TO REPLACE IT AND HASN'T BEEN REPLACED YET DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.

A T X N IS AWARE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET ALL OF THAT BACKUP TO SPEED SO THAT THEY CAN PLUG IN.

WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT DOING IT IN HERE, IT PLUGS INTO THE SOUNDBOARD FOR A T X N SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT LIVE PERFORMANCE ON, ON TV THAT THEN IS RECORDED THAT AND CAN BE RE SEEN, RE-WATCHED.

CAN I MAKE A COMMENT COMMISSIONER? GO.

PLEASE, GO AHEAD.

UM, I, I THINK THAT'S COOL.

UM, AND THIS MAY BE OVERCOMPLICATING IT, BUT IT'S LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE ARTISTS, IT SEEMS, AND AT A TIME.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER LIKE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOWCASE.

AND WE'VE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT KIND OF RAISING PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO.

LIKE, I ALMOST FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AND WE'RE GONNA LIKE BOOK A SHOWCASE OF ARTISTS THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD ALSO TRY TO PARTNER WITH A VENUE AND HAVE THE MEETING, LIKE AT A VENUE, HAVE THE ARTISTS PLAY, AND THEN HAVE OUR MEETING AT THAT VENUE AFTERWARDS AND TRY TO KEEP THE AGENDA MANAGEABLE.

SO IT'S NOT CRAZY, BUT LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE BANDS COME AND PLAY IN CITY HALL WHEN WE COULD ALSO BE LIKE TAKING IT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND LIKE PUTTING ON A, A SHOW AND, AND CONNECTING WITH MORE PEOPLE.

OUR COOL QUOTIENT WOULD GO WAY UP.

YEAH, DEFINITELY .

BUT THERE'S, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO WE ARE.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S COMPLICATING IT BECAUSE WE, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE VENUES AND

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NOT IT ON THAT, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, ERIC.

YEAH, SO WHAT YOU HAVE AN OPTION TO DO IS, AS YOU KNOW, IS EVERY QUARTER YOU CAN DO ONE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AND YOU CAN DECIDE AT ANY LOCATION WHERE YOU WANNA DO YOUR SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.

IT ALSO COULD BE WITH ANOTHER COMMISSION.

SO IF YOU DO IT OVER A QUARTER, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO A JOINT MEETING THAT SAME QUARTER WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION LIKE WE TYPICALLY WOULD SEE.

BUT IT IS AN OPTION TO DO A SPECIAL, YOU KNOW, MEETING WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

WHERE IS IT AVAILABLE? WE HAVE A GREAT LOCATION ON THE ROOFTOP OF THE AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY DOWNTOWN.

WE JUST FINISHED OUR SERIES THERE WITH A T X N.

UH, AND IT WAS HIGHLIGHTING LOCAL TALENT AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL VIEW, LET ME JUST TELL YOU.

AND THAT WE COULD DO, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE GO THROUGH, 'CAUSE IF WE GO TO A VENUE, WE'RE GOING TO PAY THE VENUE.

AND SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST ON TOP OF WHICH IS FINE IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO.

BUT YOU, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS ON THAT IS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A PROCESS.

BUT THE AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY HAS ALL OF THE NECESSARY ELECTRICAL WORK.

WE'RE ALREADY WORKING OUT THE KINKS AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM.

SO ERICA, JUST VERY QUICKLY.

SO, BUT THAT HAS TO BE A SPECIAL ONE OFF SESSION.

UH, YEAH, BECAUSE YOUR SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW IS ALREADY SCHEDULED AT CITY HALL, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR SIX 30 MEETINGS, UNLESS IT'S LIKE ONE OF THOSE TWO DATES WHERE WE HAVE TO FIND AN ALTERNATE LOCATION.

AND SO SHELBY AND KIM WOULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT YOU'VE APPROVED THAT, THOSE DATES, THE NEXT STEP IS FOR US TO GO AND FIND A LOCATION.

SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT ON THOSE TWO DATES, RIGHT, THAT WE COULD LOOK TO SEE IF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY IS AN OPTION.

UM, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING OUT ALL OF A T X IN TO DO THAT, TO DO THE SIMULCAST.

THAT'LL BE FANTASTIC.

COMMISSIONER TAL? YEAH.

UH, UH, COMMISSIONER GOULD, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING IT AN OUTSIDE PLACE, BUT WHAT DOES A VENUE HAVE THAT CITY HALL DOESN'T HAVE? BECAUSE I'M, I'M IN THE, I'M, I'M IN THE ROOM RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE GOT LOTS OF SEATING.

WE'VE GOT CENTRAL LOCATION, WE'VE GOT GREAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

WE GOT FREE PARKING.

WHY CAN'T THE PARTY BE RIGHT HERE? WHAT IS THE VENUE HAVE THAT, THAT THIS, THIS ROOM DOESN'T.

I WILL ANSWER THAT.

.

COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, PLEASE.

VIBE, VIBE, OPENNESS, WELCOMENESS.

THIS IS TOO STALE.

.

I MEAN, THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

IF WE DID IT EARLY AND HAD THE PERFORMANCES AT THE BEGINNING, THEN IT CAN BE AN ALL AGES SHOW AND PEOPLE CAN COME WITH THEIR KIDS AND FAMILIES AT THE BEGINNING OF IT AND ENJOY IT AND THEN WE CAN CARRY ON WITH OUR MEETING.

YEAH.

SO I MEAN, THREE IS A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER.

UH, UH, WE, WE, WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.

UH, TRY ONE ROUND, SEE HOW IT GOES.

UH, WE ARE ENTERING A NEW FISCAL YEAR.

WE WE'RE IN A NEW FISCAL YEAR.

UH, LET'S TRY THIS QUARTER AND, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN ALWAYS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IMPROV IMPROVISE FROM THERE.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO HAVE LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCES AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS AT THE REGULAR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS ONCE A QUARTER WITH THE THREE ARTISTS FROM THREE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS BEING, UH, PRESENTED HERE.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SECOND, I'LL SECOND THIS.

LET'S, UH, I'LL SECOND .

I'LL SECOND COMMISSIONER.

I'LL SECOND.

I SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER AGUILAR.

ALL IN FAVOR? I HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH.

OKAY.

UH, LET'S, LET'S HOLD OFF THE VOTE.

PLEASE.

GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

SO YOU SAID, BUT WE'RE VOTING TO DO IT AT CITY HALL, BUT WE ALSO SAID WE WANTED TO TRY DOING IT MAYBE AT THE LIBRARY OR AN ALTERNATE LOCATION.

DO NEED TO BUILD THE APP INTO THE MO MOTION.

GOOD POINT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, YEAH, I THINK, UH, OKAY.

I'LL MOTION TO, UH, SORRY, JUST TRYING TO COVER ALL THE BASES.

UM, YEAH, JUST KIM.

KIM, DOES IT MATTER BECAUSE IT'S, I DID SAY THE REGULAR COMMISSION, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.

DO I HAVE TO SPECIFY OR NOT SPECIFY A LOCATION? IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

UM, GOOD QUESTION.

SO IT WOULD, WOULD MATTER FOR THE TWO DATES THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOCATION, UM, BUT FOR THE DATES THAT YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE, A LOCATION THAT YOU'VE JUST VOTED ON WOULD BE CITY HALL.

SO THE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS WOULD BE JANUARY AND SEPTEMBER.

OKAY.

UM, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION, UM, AND SAY THAT, UH, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO HAVE LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCES AT THE REGULAR MONTHLY MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS ONCE A

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QUARTER WITH THREE MUSICIANS FROM THREE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.

UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? YEAH.

BUT, BUT IT, IT SEEMS TO ME, KIM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, JANUARY, JANUARY 2ND, BECAUSE IT'S NEW YEAR'S EVE.

YEAH.

WE CAN'T USE THIS.

AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO FIND AN ALTERNATE LOCATION ANYWAY.

CAN WE ASK NOW FOR THE, FOR THE ROOF OF THE LIBRARY ON JANUARY 9TH, AND WE CAN SAY THAT THE FIRST OF OUR QUARTERLY MEETINGS, WE'LL GIVE IT A SHOT UP THERE ON THE ROOF OF THE LIBRARY ON JANUARY 9TH.

COULD WE DO THAT? WE MIGHT WANNA INDOOR LOCATION FOR THAT, THOUGH.

THE WEATHER MIGHT BE BAD.

SO WE COULD ALSO DO ONE THIS QUARTER, RIGHT? OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

WE COULD DO OUR FIRST ROUND AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

UH, AT CITY HALL.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO THAT AND YOU CAN LEAVE IT OPEN AND THEN STAFF CAN CHECK AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A RESERVATION FOR THE LIBRARY.

'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT SPACE IS OPEN ON THAT DATE.

IT COULD ALREADY BE RESERVED.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

UM, BUT WE CAN CHECK FOR THE JANUARY AND SEPTEMBER DATES AND SEE IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

IN THE MEANTIME, YOU CAN STILL DO YOUR QUARTER, YOU KNOW, YOUR ONCE A QUARTER AND LEAVE THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION OPEN FOR THOSE TWO DATES.

DATES, AND WE CAN JUST SEE WHAT, WHAT WE CAN GET IN TERMS OF LOCATION.

OKAY.

I THINK I'VE KEPT THE MOTION GENERIC ENOUGH AT THIS POINT.

UH, AND, UH, WE CAN, I THINK, UH, IMPROVISE AS WE MOVE ALONG.

UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAD A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER LER.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION IS APPROVED.

IT'S, UH, IT'S GREAT THAT WE WILL HAVE, UH, MUSICIANS PERFORMING HERE AGAIN.

UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

SORRY.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

WHEN IS THE NEXT ONE AND WHO ARE THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE GONNA BE PRESENTING? DO WELL? WHEN ARE WE, UH, MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A LOT OF SERIOUS BUSINESS? 'CAUSE WE WANT 'EM TO DO IT AT A DI ON, NOT ON THAT DATE, RIGHT? UM, NOT THAT PREDICTABLE.

ARE WE ? WELL, 'CAUSE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT NEXT, NEXT MONTH THERE'S A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT WE, UH, THAT, THAT WE, THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM.

BUT I MEAN, HOW ABOUT WE, SHOULD WE TRY DECEMBER? IT GIVES US SOME TIME TO BUILD UP TO IT, YOU KNOW, FIND OUR ARTISTS AND, UH, GO FOR DECEMBER AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE NEXT QUARTER.

AND I THINK COMMISSIONER GOULD SAID, WHAT DISTRICTS ARE WE, LET'S JUST, JUST START FROM THE TOP.

1, 2, 3.

YEAH.

1, 2, 3.

RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO REMIND THAT I WAS THE LAST ONE WHO DID IT.

DISTRICT TWO, WHO BOOKED SOMEONE.

UM, IS THERE ANY DEEP CONCERN AROUND THAT OR, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE ARE KIND OF STARTING A LIVE PERFORMANCE THING, UH, WE DO 1, 1 3, JUST 1, 3 4.

USUALLY WE ONLY HAVE TO DO IT IF WE ONLY HAVE TO BOOK A PERSON ONCE A YEAR.

AND I JUST DID IT PRETTY RECENTLY, SO, OKAY.

I'M JUST ALREADY, IF YOU WANT DURING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF YEAH, I JUST WANNA PASS IT, JUMP PASS IT ALONG.

UM, I, I THINK COMMISSIONER MAHO WAS, UH, ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO BRING THE NEXT ARTIST IN, IF I REMEMBER IT RIGHT.

YEAH.

'CAUSE WE SKIPPED OVER.

YEAH, I I HAVE A QUESTION NOW.

THE MUSICIANS WILL BE PAID CORRECTLY? YES.

OKAY.

YES.

AT THE CITY.

RIGHT? AT THE CITY, YES.

UH, SO COMMISSIONER MAHOMES DISTRICT, FULL DISCLOSURE.

FULL DISCLOSURE, THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT TAKES ME A LONG TIME TO FIND FELLOW DISTRICT TWO MUSICIANS.

SO IF I'M GONNA DO IT, I WANNA KNOW, AND I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE DO TOO.

THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

I DO WANNA ASK THOUGH, BECAUSE I, I, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO ADHERE TO IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN A HARD AND FAST RULE THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING ABSOLUTELY.

SOMEBODY FROM THE DISTRICT, THAT IT WAS MORE OF COMMISSIONERS FROM EACH DISTRICT CHOOSING A MUSICIAN.

SO, UH, LET ME KNOW IF ANYBODY FEELS, HAS VERY STRONG OPINIONS AROUND HOW THAT SHOULD BE, BUT I, I'M, I'M REALLY OKAY.

KEEPING IT FLEXIBLE NOW, UH, WHAT'S THE DATE IN DECEMBER? I'M SORRY.

IT'S THE FIRST MONDAY OF DECEMBER, WHICH IS, UM, DECEMBER 4TH.

SO, UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ONE MORE THING, WHICH IS THAT I HAVE LIKE BARELY ANYONE THAT, THAT I'M FRIENDS WITH THAT'S NOT A MUSICIAN.

I HAVE, I KNOW TOO MANY MUSICIANS.

I KNOW TOO MANY PEOPLE.

SO HAVING IT BE DISTRICT TWO REALLY HELPS ME TO NARROW MY FOCUS.

OTHERWISE I'M JUST GONNA BE LIKE, COOL.

I COULD CALL A THOUSAND PEOPLE FOR THIS GIG.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER PEOPLE FEEL, BUT I REALLY LIKE BEING ABLE TO BE LIKE, I'M

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TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE IN MY OWN DISTRICT AND IT HELPS ME TO GET TO KNOW MORE PEOPLE IN MY, WHO ARE IN MY DISTRICT AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COMMISSION.

SO YEAH, I WOULD IN FAVOR OF TRYING AT LEAST TO KEEP, TO, TO LOOK FOR SOMEONE IN OUR OWN DISTRICTS JUST TO, YEAH, I THINK, UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN EV EVERYBODY HAS TAKEN A DIFFERENT TASK.

LIKE I'VE, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR MYSELF, I, I KNOW THAT I, UH, BROUGHT IN SOME ASIAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS IN THE MIX AND, AND YOU KNOW, OTHERS HAVE BROUGHT IN, UM, POTENTIALLY GENRES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, THAT KIND OF BEEN UNDERREPRESENTED AND THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT IN ARTISTS FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

SO, UM, PERSONALLY I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT UP TO THE, UH, COMMISSIONER WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND HOW THEY WANNA APPROACH IT.

AND WHAT IS THE MESSAGE THEY WANNA GIVE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, THROUGH THEIR CHOICE.

WE GOOD? MM-HMM.

ALRIGHT.

SO NO LE LET'S DECIDE.

COMMISSIONER MAHO, UM, IS, IS GOING TO SELECT AN ARTIST WHO, WHO IS NEXT? 'CAUSE I'M SUDDENLY A LITTLE TENSE ON THE DISTRICT NUMBERS.

I'M THREE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, AND THEN WHO WE'RE DOING THREE IN DECEMBER OR 1, 1 3 AND FOUR.

ONE, THREE AND FOUR.

YEAH.

IS, ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? YEAH, IT'S FOUR.

WHAT, WHO'S FOUR? WHO'S FOUR? WHO'S FOUR WE ARE MISSING? UH, IS IT YOU FIVE? COMMISSIONER STRICKLER, FIVE, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, AND FOUR ALL? I DON'T KNOW.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

I'LL, I'LL, UM, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH THE STAFF TO JUST CLARIFY THAT AND GET THAT OUT.

UM, AND, UM, OKAY.

AND WE HAVE SOME TIME .

WE HAVE SOME TIME TILL DECEMBER.

ALRIGHT.

UM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UH, WE AGAIN, UH, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT IF WE WANT TO MOVE ANY OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS AND HAVE AN ACTION AROUND IT, SO PLEASE, UH, SPECIFY AT LEAST GENERALLY WHAT THAT ACTION IS GOING TO BE LIKE AND, UM, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE IT.

UM, BUT FOR NOW, UM, I THINK, UH, WE'LL HAVE LIVE MUSIC, FUN COLLECTIONS UPDATE BY KIM MC CARSON LIVE MUSIC, UH, VENUE, VIRTUAL MEETING, UPDATE FROM SHELBY INSTEAD OF, UH, YEAH, THE ANNOUNCEMENT.

THERE'S AN UPDATE THERE.

DISCUSSION ON ALL AGES SHOWS AND HOW WE SUPPORT YOUTH IN AUSTIN.

YOU WANT TO ADD THAT BACK DISCUSSION, FOLLOWING UPDATE, UH, ON LIVE MUSIC FUND SURVEY.

UH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THIS, SO I'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH, UM, PAT AND SEE IF HE'S WANTING TO COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE.

UM, THEN WE'LL ADD DISCUSSION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM FOLLOWING UPDATE BY IKA SHAMLEY THAT COMES BACK IN.

UM, WHAT ELSE? MAYBE WE COULD WE, UM, WE COM NOT COMBINE, BUT ALIGN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND STUFF IN TERMS OF LIKE, IN, IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER YEAH.

AND HAVE OTHER MOTION.

YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH.

DEFINITELY.

I WILL.

UM, UM, I WILL DO THAT THIS TIME, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE COMING BACK AND ASKING US TO FIGURE THIS DISCUSSION ITEMS VERSUS ACTIONS OUT.

BY THE TIME WE WENT BACK AND ASKED FOR ANOTHER UPDATE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CHRONOLOGY, IT GOT TOO LATE.

SO.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT AHEAD OF TIME NEXT TIME.

UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, YOU HAD AN ITEM YOU WANTED TO ADD OR TWO? YES.

ACT, WELL, ACTUALLY THREE.

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON LIVE MUSIC AT THE, AT THE DECEMBER MEETING.

SO WE, WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THINGS FINALIZED.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE CAN START PUBLICIZING IT AND MAKE IT THE BIG PARTY THAT WE WANT.

AGREED.

OKAY.

UM, SECOND AUSTIN RECORD CONVENTION.

UH, I WOULD, UH, THAT WAS JUST HELD THIS WEEKEND.

IT'S A SEMI-ANNUAL CONVENTION, THE LARGEST RECORD CONVENTION IN THE UNITED STATES.

I HAVE SPOKEN WITH A COUPLE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES.

WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN ENCOURAGE THE AUSTIN RECORD CONVENTION.

AND THIRD THING IS, UM, WELL, A C L IS COMING UP THIS WEEKEND, SO EITHER NEXT MONTH OR NOVEMBER, I WOULD LIKE TO GET NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER IN OCTOBER.

OH MAN.

OKAY.

YEAH.

NO TIME FLIES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, UM, NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER, IT WOULD BE NICE IF A C L COULD GIVE AN UPDATE YEAH.

UH, FOR THAT.

AND HEY, A C L MIGHT ACTUALLY ENJOY HAVING A WIDER AUDIENCE AFTER THE LIVE MUSIC TO GIVE THEIR UPDATE OF WHAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT EN THEY MIGHT ENJOY BEING IN DECEMBER.

SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, UH, KEEPING IT IN DECEMBER THEN.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK.

UH, WE, WE MIGHT, UM, WE, YEAH, WE, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD FIND OUT WHEN

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A C L WANTS TO TALK.

YEAH, SOUNDS GOOD.

UM, SO MAYBE KEEP THAT IN THE AGENDA, UM, KIM AND, UH, WE CAN UM, WE CAN UPDATE IT TO DECEMBER IF WE NEED TO.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UM, UH, AND I NEED SOME FOLLOW UP HERE AS WELL, UM, AND, UH, UM, PRESENTATION FROM, UM, IRENE CHANG ON, UH, UH, MUSICIAN TREATMENT FOUNDATION AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

ANY OTHER, UH, AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING? I, I WONDER IF WITHIN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, UH, PROJECTS, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE FUNDING AND THEN ALSO KIND OF COMBINING THAT IDEA WITH LIKE, I THINK IT WOULD BE FUN FOR US COMMISSIONERS TO, TO GO INTO THE WILD WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THESE, THESE PROJECTS ARE TAKING PLACE AND, AND US KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

AND THEN GROUPS OF FIVE OR LESS OF US GO SEE, YOU KNOW, GO INTO THE WILD AND SEE THE MUSICIANS PERFORMING THERE.

NOT THEM COMING TO US, BUT US GOING TO THE PROJECTS THAT, THAT THE, UM, LIVE MUSIC FUND HAS FUNDED.

YEAH.

IS THAT, UH, IS THERE A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU WANNA ADD AROUND IT? OR YOU COULD ALSO USE THAT AS, UH, A DISCUSSION ITEM IN, IN, IN THAT TOPIC ITSELF? I, I THINK MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK ALSO IF WE'RE IN, IN THE CLUBS OR VENUES OR WHEREVER THEY ARE, I MEAN, THERE COULD BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO GET FIRSTHAND FEEDBACK ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AND GET TO KNOW MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS AS WELL.

YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT FALLS IN.

I'LL LET YOU FIGURE THAT OUT.

UM, I THINK ONCE WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM ERICA ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM, IT KIND OF LEAVES US FAIRLY OPEN TO DISCUSS DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF, UH, LIVE MUSIC.

AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT JUST THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

A QUICK THING, PART OF THEIR AGREEMENTS IS THAT THEY HAVE TO SIGN THE, PUT THEIR, IF IF THEY'RE EVENT BASED, THE GOES ONTO THE VISIT AUSTIN WEBSITE.

AND SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO QUERY THE EVENTS.

NOW THE OTHER PROJECTS LIKE RECORDING, YOU KNOW, SESSIONS AND VIDEO SESSION, YOU KNOW, VIDEO PRODUCTION.

I'M NOT SURE HOW TO, HOW YOU GUYS WANNA INTERACT WITH THAT.

MAYBE YOU DO DO A STUDIO VISIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE CAN JUST KIND OF COORDINATE JUST WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ASK THE AWARDEES, HEY, WHO'S HERE'S OPEN TO A VISIT FROM YOUR MUSIC COMMISSIONERS AND THEN WHOEVER'S PUTS THEIR HANDS UP, WE'LL WE'LL CONNECT Y'ALL.

OKAY.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER, UH, AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? ALRIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO COLLECTIVELY APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED FOR THE NEXT MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

UH, COMMISSIONER DAVILA.

ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION'S APPROVED.

UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN.

NO ONE WANTS TO GO HOME.

SECOND.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'S, UH, OR I'LL, OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE MOTIONING .

I MOTIONED TO ADJOURN.

I THINK SO.

.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE TAKERS HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER CA SAID THAT AND THEN WE HAD A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS.

ALL IN FAVOR? THE MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO CAME IN AND, UH, SPOKE WITH US HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.