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[CALL TO ORDER ]

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EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO CITY HALL.

UH, I KNOW THE WEATHER OUTSIDE ISN'T TELLING YOU THIS, BUT IT REALLY IS OCTOBER 4TH IN AUSTIN AND WE ARE CALLING TO, UH, ORDER THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4TH AT 6:00 PM AND, UH, IF I WOULD CALL ON OUR STAFF TO, UH, CALL THE ROLE.

OF COURSE.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE HEIM, SOUTH CHAIR PRESENT.

WHIT FEATHERSTON, VICE CHAIR PRESENT.

KEVIN COOK, PRESENT.

CARL LAROCHE, I BELIEVE WILL BE LATE.

UH, TREY MCWHORTER.

PRESENT.

HARMONY GROGAN.

PRESENT.

JAIME ALVAREZ PRESENT.

ROXANNE EVANS PRESENT.

RAYMOND CASTILLO WILL BE ABSENT.

JUAN RAYMOND RUBIO MIGHT BE LATE.

UM, AND THEN TARA.

TARA.

SORRY.

TARA DUDLEY PRESENT.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, MS. ALLEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MM-HMM.

, UH, WE WILL GO THROUGH TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND, UH, REVIEW EACH OF THE CASES AND TAKE CONSENT AND POSTPONEMENT CASES.

BUT, UH, BEFORE WE START THAT, UH,

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

WE ALWAYS START WITH PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

UH, MS. ALLEN, IS THERE ANYONE WHO IS, UM, SET FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? YES.

UH, FIRST WE, UH, FIRST UP WE HAVE CLIFTON LADD.

OKAY.

MR. LADD, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND THEN, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, AND FOR THE RECORD.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS CLIFTON LADD AND I LIVE IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

A FEW BLOCKS FROM THE NORWOOD HOUSE.

THE NORWOOD HOUSE HAS NOT BEEN THE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION BY THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, AT LEAST NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE IN RECENT YEARS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT, UM, ABOUT THE THIS HOUSE AND RECENT EVENTS CONCERNING ITS PLANNED RESTORATION.

I'LL BE BRIEF.

THE NORWOOD HOUSE OVERLOOKS LADY BIRD LAKE ON CITY PARKLAND, NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF IH 35 AND RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

IT WAS BUILT BY OLLIE AND KELLY NORWOOD IN THE EARLY 1920S.

THE NORWOOD NAME IS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THE 16 STORY NORWOOD BUILDING ON, UH, WEST SEVENTH STREET, WHICH IS ALSO BUILT BY MR. NORWOOD.

UH, THE NORWOOD HOUSE HAS BEEN NEGLECTED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, BUT A VOLUNTEER FOUNDATION HAS WORKED HARD IN THE LAST FEW YEARS TO RESTORE THIS HOME.

THE ALL VOLUNTEER NORWOOD PARK FOUNDATION DEVELOPED SHOVEL-READY PLANS TO RESTORE THE HOUSE, UH, TO BE USED AS A SELF-SUSTAINING ASSET, UM, FOR THE AUSTIN PARKS DEPARTMENT AND HELP GENERATE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THIS VISION.

THE HOUSE SITS ON A SOLID FOUNDATION.

IT'S IN ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION, BUT IT NEEDS SUBSTANTIAL WORK TO COMPLETE THE RESTORATION.

UH, WE HAD $2.8 MILLION IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FUNDS SET ASIDE AND READY FOR THAT PROJECT, AND WE HAD A CONTRACTOR READY TO START WORK ON IT.

BUT THE COST ROSE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, IT, IT ROSE ABOUT $150,000, WHICH BROUGHT THE WHOLE PROJECT TO A HALT.

UM, THE ORIGINAL FOUNDATION HAS THE NORWOOD, UM, HOUSE FOUNDATION HAS SINCE DISSOLVED, AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT RECENTLY REASSIGNED THE PUBLIC FUNDS, UM, AND APPEARS TO HAVE NO PLANS FOR FURTHER RESTORATION EFFORTS.

UM, A NEW COMMUNITY-BASED EFFORT IS NOW WORKING TO PICK UP WHERE THE PREVIOUS FOUNDATION LEFT OFF.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THESE COUPLE OF MINUTES JUST TO BRIEF YOU ABOUT THIS EFFORT AND ASK FOR YOUR HELP, WHETHER INDIVIDUALLY OR WHAT, WHATEVER YOU CAN DO AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION TO SUPPORT THE RESTORATION OF THIS VALUABLE COMMUNITY ASSET.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE NORWOOD HOUSE ONLINE, AND IF YOU GO TO THE NORWOOD HOUSE.ORG, YOU'LL FIND HISTORY OF THE HOUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION ABOUT PRIOR EFFORTS, EFFORTS TO SAVE IT, UM, VIEWS FROM THE HOUSE, PREVIOUS EFFORTS IN THE RESTORATION PROCESS, AND, AND RENDERINGS OF THE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS.

SO I AND MY NEIGHBORS WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP, UM, THAT YOU CAN GIVE TO THE NORWOOD HOUSE.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU MR. LADD.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF MR. LADD? I JUST WANNA SAY, I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THAT THERE IS A NEW EFFORT, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS THAT WAS HEARTBREAKINGLY CLOSE.

YEAH.

AND, UM, FOR ANYBODY WHO, WHO HASN'T SEEN SOME OF THE HISTORIC PHOTOGRAPHS, UH, IT'S HARD TO, HARD TO APPRECIATE THE BEAUTY OF THAT BUILDING AND ITS IMPORTANCE IN ITS CURRENT STATE.

YEAH.

BUT, UH, IT, WHEN, WHEN I WAS NEW TO AUSTIN,

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UH, ACTUALLY BETTY BAKER, WHO WAS HISTORIC STAFF AT THE TIME MM-HMM.

, UH, SHE OPENLY SAID THIS, IN HER OPINION, WAS THE PREMIER BUNGALOW IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND IT CERTAINLY DESERVES, UH, A LOT OF LOVE AND ATTENTION AND IT'S GOTTEN PART OF THE WAY THERE, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED.

I THINK WE CAN STILL DO IT IF WE JUST PUT A LITTLE EFFORT INTO IT.

WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED THE HELP FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

IT PROBABLY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, UH, IF YOU WILL CONNECT WITH STAFF ONE OF OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WE MIGHT POST THIS FOR A MORE OFFICIAL UPDATE OR BRIEFING ON THE PROJECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL DO THAT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC, UH, COMMUNICATIONS? YES, WE HAVE, UH, MEGAN KING.

MS. KING, WELCOME.

HELLO.

HELLO.

OKAY.

MEGAN KING, POLICY AND OUTREACH PLANNER FOR PRESERVATION AUSTIN WITH MY MONTHLY UPDATE FOR YOU GUYS.

UM, AS YOU MIGHT BE AWARE, FROM ALL THE PRESS RELEASES I'VE BEEN SPAMMING YOU WITH, UM, UH, LEGACY BUSINESS MONTH STARTED ON OCTOBER 1ST, IT'S PRESERVATION AUSTIN'S NEW BRAND NEW INITIATIVE TO CELEBRATE.

UM, ALL OF AUSTIN'S AMAZING ICONIC LOCAL BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE A PASSPORT AVAILABLE FOR PICKUP AT BOOK PEOPLE AND ZILKER TECH BROOM.

UM, IT'LL TAKE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY VISITING, PATRONIZING, SUPPORTING SOME AMAZING BUSINESSES INCLUDING PETER PAN, MINI GOLF, BROKEN SPOKE CISCO'S, AND SOME LESS FAMILIAR ONES LIKE CAROUSEL LOUNGE AND THE HERB BAR.

UM, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND WE HAVE A BIG KICKOFF PARTY TOMORROW NIGHT AT SILK OR TAP ROOM FROM SIX UNTIL NINE.

YOU CAN GET YOUR PASSPORT, SO YOU CAN GET YOUR PASSPORT PHOTO TAKEN.

UM, WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL DECLARATION FROM COUNCIL, UM, DECLARING, UM, OCTOBER AS LEGACY BUSINESS MONTH AS WELL.

SO WE'LL HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION FROM COUNCIL THERE.

WE'RE SUPER EXCITED.

SO WE HOPE, UM, YOU ALL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL JOIN US, UM, FOR THAT.

AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THE WINNERS OF OUR, UH, 2023 PRESERVATION MERIT AWARDS.

UH, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING THOSE 12 WINNERS ON NOVEMBER 14TH AT CENTRAL MACHINE WORKS BREWERY IN EAST AUSTIN, WHICH WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.

UM, AND YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT LEGACY BUSINESS MONTH AND ABOUT PRESERVATION MERIT AWARDS AND GET TICKETS TO THE PRESERVATION MERIT AWARDS CELEBRATION, UM, ON OUR WEBSITE@PRESERVATIONAUSTIN.ORG.

AND THAT IS ALL FOR ME TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. KING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT'S VERY EXCITING NEWS.

AND A ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF COMMISSIONERS? AND, UH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY NEW ARRIVALS.

UH, UM, JUAN RAMON RUBIO IS, IS THAT NO, HE'S GONNA BE ABSENT.

NOPE.

NOPE.

THERE HE IS.

HE MADE IT.

EXCELLENT.

JUAN RAMON RUBIO.

WELCOME.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, CARL, CARL LAROCHE HAS WITH US.

SO WE'LL ROUND OUT THE ATTENDANCE LIGHT WITH TRAFFIC.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WHAT WE DO NOW IS GO OVER THE AGENDA.

UH, I'LL READ OUT EACH OF THE CASES.

A NUMBER OF THEM ARE POSTED FOR CONSENT AND THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, IF PASSED ANY, IF YOUR ITEM IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IT'S PASSED, THEN THAT WILL BE THE, UH, ACTION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE TONIGHT ON THAT CASE.

UH, HOWEVER, IF THERE IS A CASE THAT I CALL OUT ON THE AGENDA FOR CONSENT THAT YOU OR ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE GET MY ATTENTION AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RESERVE THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FULL HEARING OR A FULL PRESENTATION ON THAT CASE.

SO TO START WITH THE CONSENT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, UH, WE'LL HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE.

THE FIRST ONE, ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO.

JUST READ THE WHOLE AGENDA.

I'M GONNA READ THE WHOLE AGENDA.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I'M JUMPING AHEAD.

.

I'M, I'M GETTING, I'M GONNA GET USED TO THIS.

YEAH, .

ALRIGHT.

I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE WHOLE AGENDA AND TELL YOU WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

THEN I WILL SUMMARIZE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO THE FIRST THING WE'LL DO

[Consent Agenda]

IS HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE.

UH, AND THAT WILL BE A CONSENT ITEM.

WE'LL HAVE A, UH, WE'LL POST IT FOR A TEXT PROJECT UPDATES, UH, HOWEVER, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THAT ACTUALLY IS NOT READY YET.

UH, THEY WILL BE, UH, COMING NEXT WEEK, UH, NEXT MONTH.

YEAH, THEY'LL BE COMING, UH, THE NOVEMBER 1ST MEETING.

OKAY.

UH, WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION OF SOME, SOME OF OUR CURRENT ACTIVITIES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

UH, ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS THE 7 3 0 4 KNOX LANE.

UH, THESE ARE HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATIONS.

WE HAVE THAT ONE POSTED FOR DISCUSSION.

STAFF WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THAT IS AN ERROR.

UM, ON THE AGENDA, IT WILL BE AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT ON CONSENT, UM, FOLLOWING THE INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT LAST APRIL.

UH, IT APPEARS ON OUR AGENDA BECAUSE, UH, IT HAS BEEN SIX MONTHS, UM, AND MUST APPEAR ON THE H L C AGENDA EVERY SIX MONTHS

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UNTIL IT RETURNS FOR DISCUSSION.

IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT TO AGAIN APPEAR BACK IN APRIL.

OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL READ THAT OUT WITH THE OTHER POSTPONEMENTS.

OKAY.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 5 11 0 4 EAST 10TH STREET.

THAT'S POSTED FOR DISCUSSION.

UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX, THIS IS, UH, SEVEN 19 CONGRESS AVENUE.

THAT'S THE STATE THEATER.

AND THE STAFF HAS REQUESTED THAT THAT BE POSTPONED.

I BELIEVE THEY WERE STILL GETTING MORE INFORMATION FOR US, UM, THAT WE, WE'VE, UH, REQUESTED.

THE NEXT ITEMS ARE ITEMS IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND, UH, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

AND THE ITEM NUMBER 7 4 0 2 WEST 12TH STREET.

WE HAVE A REQUESTED, UH, POSTPONEMENT FROM THE APPLICANT.

ITEM NUMBER 8 14 0 3 WEST NINTH STREET.

THAT IS, UH, PROPOSAL FOR A PORCH EDITION.

AND THAT IS, UH, POSTED FOR CON THAT IS POSTED AS CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 9 2900 TERRY TRAIL.

UH, THAT IS A PROPOSAL FOR A NEW LANDSCAPE ON THE PROPERTY.

WE SAW THAT PREVIOUSLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES, BUT IT IS POSTED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 10 14 0 9 ALTA VISTA.

THAT IS A POSTPONED REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT.

ITEM NUMBER 1196 RAINY STREET.

THAT IS, UH, DEMOLITION AND NEW CONSTRUCTION, BOTH POSTED HERE.

AND, UH, IT IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM 12 15 0 5 10TH STREET.

THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT IS OFFERED AS A CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 12 8 0 6 RUTHERFORD PLACE IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, UH, REPLACE EXISTING WINDOWS AND DOORS THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 14 17 13 SUMMIT.

THAT IS, UH, OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

AND AS A PROPOSAL FOR A DEMOLITION OF A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 15 42 10 WILSHIRE PARKWAY.

THAT IS A DEMOLITION OF A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITH FENCING AROUND THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 16 5 14 EAST LIVE OAK STREET, THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

THAT'S A DEMOLITION OF A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND BUILD OF NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO PULL, UH, THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO PULL FIVE 14 EAST LIVE OAK STREET.

ITEM NUMBER 16, THERE IS A SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION.

UM, ALSO, I BELIEVE THERE WAS INTEREST, UH, FROM A COMMISSIONER TO PULL ITEM 15, UH, 42 10 WILSHIRE PARKWAY.

IS THAT STILL THE OPINION OF COMMISSIONER REVIEW? ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

SO PLEASE PULL ITEMS 15 AND 16 FOR DISCUSSION.

ALRIGHT, NOW WE GO ON TO DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION PERMIT APPLICATIONS.

ITEM NUMBER 17 7 0 1 SPARKS AVENUE.

THAT IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION.

THAT IS A PROPOSAL FOR TOTAL DEMOLITION.

ITEM 18 11 0 1 GARNER AVENUE.

UH, THIS IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 19 46 0 1 CHIP CHIRO TRAIL.

I THINK I'VE GOT THAT RIGHT.

UH, THAT ONE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED, SO THAT WILL NO LONGER BE ON OUR AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 20 1100 EAST SECOND STREET.

THAT'S A DEMOLITION UH, REQUEST.

AND THAT IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION.

ITEM NUMBER 21 25 0 5 EAST CESAR CHAVEZ.

THAT IS A RELOCATION, UH, REQUEST.

AND THAT IS POSTED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 1304 ANGELINA STREET.

THAT IS A DEMOLITION REQUEST, UH, OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 23 8 12 WEST 12TH STREET.

UH, THAT ONE IS POSTED AT FOR TOTAL DEMOLITION REQUEST.

AND THAT IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER 24 46 0 4 CREST WAY DRIVE.

UH, THAT IS, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO PULL THIS FOR DISCUSSION.

MM-HMM.

, ITEM NUMBER 25 3900 BECKER AVENUE.

UH, DEMOLITION REQUEST THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

WE ALSO HAVE A ITEM POSTED UNDER OUR TAX ABATEMENT FOR REHABILITATION OF PROPERTY IN A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS IS ITEM 26 41 0 9 AVENUE A.

UH, AND THAT APPLICATION IS IN YOUR BACKUP.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE POSTED ON ITEM 27 OUR

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SCHEDULE FOR COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

WE'LL DISCUSS THAT, UH, BEFORE TAKING THE FINAL VOTE ON THAT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE REMAINING ITEMS HAVE TO DO WITH THE WORK OF OUR COMMITTEES.

UM, I WILL REPEAT THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE ITEMS THAT ARE STILL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FIRST, AND THE FIRST ONE BEING THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

THAT'S ITEM ONE.

AND THAT'S FOR THE SEPTEMBER 26 MINUTES.

THE SECOND WOULD BE, UM, ITEM NUMBER 9, 2900 TERRY TRAIL.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS ALSO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I SKIPPED EIGHT, I SKIPPED.

DATE ITEM 8 14 0 3 WEST NINTH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 12 15 0 5 10TH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 13, 8 0 6 RUTHERFORD PLACE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

14 17 13 SUMMIT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

SUMMIT VW IS THAT SUMMIT VIEW.

SUMMIT VIEW.

AH, OKAY.

SUMMIT VIEW IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

UM, WE'VE HAD THE OTHERS POLLED.

21, 21 25 0 5 EAST ASAR CHAVEZ IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

22 13 0 4 ANGELINA OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AND ITEM NUMBER 25, 3900 BECKER AVENUE OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AND ITEM 26, THE, UH, TAX ABATEMENT REQUEST.

41 0 9 AVENUE A OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND, IT'S, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

IF YOUR ITEM WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT HAS PASSED.

UH, ANY HAVING TO DO WITH DEMOLITION, WE DO REQUEST THE, UH, PACKET OF DOCUMENTATION THAT IS PART OF THE APPROVAL AND YOU'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH, UH, MS. ALLEN OR UH, MS. UH, CONTRERAS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ACCOMPLISHED.

ALRIGHT.

LET'S GO TO THE POSTPONEMENTS.

THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE POSTED IS ITEM FOUR, POSTPONE.

UH, THAT'S 7 3 0 4 KNOX LANE, AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 6 20 23, EXCUSE ME, SEVEN 19 CONGRESS AVENUE.

UH, THAT IS A STAFF REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 7 4 0 2 WEST 12TH STREET.

THAT IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 10 14 0 9 ALTA VISTA AVENUE.

THAT IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 18 11 0 1 GARNER AVENUE.

THAT IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL OF THEM.

OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION CHAIR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

ONCE AGAIN.

UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY.

THAT MOTION PASSES.

UH, WE WILL NOW

[3. Recent Preservation Accomplishments]

PROCEED TO OUR FIRST PRESENTATION, AND THAT IS, UH, DISCUSSING ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN PRESERVATION RECENTLY.

UM, OH, I JUST, I JUST GOT KICKED OUT OF WEBEX, SO YOU GO FIRST.

I JUST GOT KICKED OUTTA WEBEX MS. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK UPDATES WHILE AMBER, UH, LOGS BACK IN.

UM, WE HAVE MADE A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS ON, UM, PETER PAN MINI GOLF, UM, AND KIND OF DIGGING INTO THE LAND USE, UH, ISSUES, UH, WITH THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL.

UH, WE KNOW THAT NOW THE, UH, CITIZEN PETITION HAS, I THINK 25,000 SIGNATURES ON IT.

UM, AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH OUR LAW DEPARTMENT, UM, WHO'S, UM, COORDINATING WITH THE, UH, TEXAS JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT'S, UH, LEGAL TEAM TO, UH, TO TRY AND, UH, FIGURE OUT, UH, WHAT THE, UH, THE STATUS OF THE, UH, THE LAND UNDERNEATH PETER PAN MINI GOLF IS, AND, UM, HOW BEST WE CAN PROCEED WITH A POTENTIAL INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING IT ALONG, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY SEE IT IN NOVEMBER, PROBABLY.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE, UH, NECESSARY PAPERWORK FROM THE COMMISSION TO SEE IT THIS TIME, BUT, UM, WE DO NEED TWO, UH, LETTERS FROM COMMISSIONERS TO POST IT ON NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA.

SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

UM, IF THAT'S

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SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME BACK.

AND COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO TWO.

SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SEND A LETTER TO MS. CONTRERAS AND SIMPLY SAY THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING IT ON THE AGENDA, UH, THAT WHICH SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

AND WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO NOVEMBER, EITHER OF THESE CAN COME AT ANY TIME AND THEY'LL BE PLACED ON THE NEXT SUBSEQUENT AGENDA.

TERRIFIC.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SURE.

ALRIGHT.

SORRY ABOUT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, BUT I'M BACK ON.

UM, LAST WEEK A CONTRACT WAS SIGNED WITH H H M TO PERFORM A HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY, UH, TO FILL IN THE GAPS IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN OVER THE NEXT 18 MONTHS.

THIS WILL, UH, YOU KNOW, BE IN ADDITION TO THE 2016 EAST AUSTIN SURVEY, UH, ON THE EAST AND THEN TO THE WEST, THE OLD WEST AUSTIN, UM, HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY.

SO WE ARE FILLING IN THE BLANKS IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.

UH, OVER 1400 PROPERTIES WILL BE EVALUATED IN THIS RESOURCE.

HIS, UH, HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY.

UM, YOU WILL HAVE BRIEFINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS FROM H H M AND STAFF.

UM, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THIS STARTED.

THAT'S LONG OVERDUE.

AND AS I'M, I MENTIONED A NUMBER OF TIMES ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION WHEN I REPRESENTED THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION ON THAT BOARD, UH, THAT MAP YOU JUST SHOWED, THAT'S, YOU MAY AS WELL JUST SAY THAT'S THE EPICENTER OF A TARGET WHERE THE ECONOMIC IMBALANCE THREATENS ANY HISTORIC PROPERTY IN THAT AREA.

UH, IT JUST, IT'S GONNA BE VERY HARD FOR US WITH THE TOOLS WE HAVE EXISTING TO ENVISION ANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES BEING ABLE TO STAY, UH, IN THEIR CURRENT STATE WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH PRESSURES FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE CENTRAL CORE OF THE CITY.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND A LOT MORE, UH, MATERIALS TO WORK FROM, BE MUCH MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE, AND ALSO THROUGH MAYBE THE CREATIVE WORK OF SOME OF OUR OTHER COMMITTEES, FIND SOME OTHER TOOLS AVAILABLE TO HELP US STEM THAT TIDE.

SO, VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT GOING.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ITEMS PERTAINING TO THAT? MS. MS. ALLEN? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, LET'S GO TO OUR

[5. C14H-2023-0092 – 1104 E. 10th St. – Discussion ]

FIRST POSTED CASE, UH, UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS IN HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATIONS.

AND THAT IS THE 1104 EAST 10TH STREET.

UH, THIS IS AN OWNER INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING PRO, UH, PROJECT.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

ITEM C 14 H 20 23 0 0 9 2 AT 1104 EAST 10TH STREET IS AN OWNER INITIATED ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION FOR THE DEPUY CHARCO FRAZIER HOUSE.

UM, THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDED, UH, ZONING CHANGE, UM, FOR HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, COMMUNITY VALUE AND ARCHITECTURE.

THIS HOME BUILT BETWEEN 1886 AND 1887 EXEMPLIFIES TEXAS REGIONAL ARCHITECTURE AND IS A RARE EXAMPLE OF A SHORT-LIVED ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

IT'S A RARE SURVIVING EXAMPLE OF THE EARLY WORK OF BUILDER JOHN T DEPUY.

ITS EXPANSIVE.

FRONT PORCH IS AN UNCOMMON FEATURE OF THE PERIOD, EVEN AMONG THE DWINDLING NUMBERS OF 19TH CENTURY VERNACULAR BUILDINGS IN AUSTIN.

THE PROPERTY, UH, HAS LONGSTANDING SIGNIFICANT ASSOCIATIONS WITH PERSONS, GROUPS, INSTITUTIONS, BUSINESSES, OR EVENTS OF HISTORIC IMPORTANCE.

AND THE APPLICATION SUMMARIZES THESE, THE PROPERTY, UH, THE PROPERTY.

SIGNIFICANT ASSOCIATIONS, UH, REPRESENT A PORTRAYAL OF THE CULTURAL PRACTICES AND THE WAY OF LIFE OF SEVERAL GROUPS OF PEOPLE.

IN AUSTIN'S EARLY DECADES, THE ITALIAN-AMERICAN AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN FAMILIES WHO RESIDED IN THE HOME PLAYED SIGNIFICANT ROLES IN THE RELIGIOUS, EDUCATIONAL, COMMERCIAL AND PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT OF EAST AUSTIN.

THE HOME'S BUILDER, JOHN T DEPUY, WAS ONE OF AUSTIN'S EARLIEST HOME BUILDERS.

BY THE END OF THE 19TH CENTURY, THE HOME WAS OWNED AND OCCUPIED BY MEMBERS OF THE CHERICO FAMILY, WHO OWNED AND OPERATED A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES WHO INCLUDING PRODUCE, DRY GOODS AND GROCERY STORES IN EAST AUSTIN, AS WELL AS A BARBERSHOP AT THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN.

IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY.

LEADERS IN AUSTIN'S BLACK COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ELIZA LIZZIE HAWKINS, A CHARTER MEMBER OF EBENEZER BAPTIST CHURCH, TREATER FRAZIER, WHO WAS THE FIRST HONORED MOTHER OF EBENEZER BAPTIST AND LUCILLE FRAZIER, A RENOWNED ENGLISH TEACHER AT ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL, OWNED AND RESIDED IN THE HOME.

1104 EAST 10TH STREET IS LOCATED WITHIN AN AREA OF RICH CULTURAL DIVERSITY WHERE NOTABLE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY LEADERS LIVED AND GATHERED DURING THE EARLY AND MID 20TH CENTURY.

THIS WELL PRESERVED AND RESORT STRUCTURE IS UNIQUELY LOCATED WITHIN BOTH AUSTIN'S AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL DISTRICT AND THE ROBERTSON STEWARD AND MAYOR HISTORIC DISTRICT, ONE OF AUSTIN'S FIRST SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT BEGAN WITH CULTURAL DIVERSITY NOTES.

THE APPLICATION, IT PLAYED A PIVOTAL ROLE IN PROVIDING RESIDENCES AND PLACES OF RELIGIOUS WORSHIP TO ONE OF EARLY, TO ONE OF AUSTIN'S EARLY ENCLAVES OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN LEBANESE, ITALIAN, GERMAN ANGLO, AND MEXICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS.

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THIS HOME STORY SUBSEQUENTLY TELLS THE STORY OF EAST 10TH STREET.

EAST 10TH STREET AS A WHOLE, THE BUILDER AND FIRST OCCUPANTS WERE FRENCH DESCENT, BUT DURING ITS FIRST THREE DECADES, IT BECAME HOME TO ANGLO, ITALIAN AMERICAN AND AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS.

THESE RESIDENTS IN TURN, CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY'S CULTURAL IDENTITY IN WAYS THAT SPREAD FAR BEYOND 10TH STREET.

THIS BUILDING HAS HIGH TO MODERATE INTEGRITY WITH MOST VISIBLE CHANGES OCCURRING DURING THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANT, DURING THE HISTORIC PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE, INCLUDING AN 1890S DINING ROOM AND 1930S HALLWAY ADDITION, UH, A BEDROOM AND BATHROOM ADDITION, AND SOME WINDOW REPLACEMENTS.

UH, INTERESTINGLY, THE HOUSE AT 1007 WALLER WAS MOVED TO THE REAR OF THIS HOUSE AROUND 1997.

UM, AND ITS WINDOWS ARE REPLACED.

UH, WERE REPLACED OUTSIDE THE HISTORIC PERIOD, UH, BUT IT IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

UM, THIS BUILDING CONTRIBUTES TO THE ROBERTSON STORE AND MAYOR HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND, UH, STAFF CAN RECOMMEND THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FROM FAMILY RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, HISTORIC DISTRICT TO FAMILY RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, HISTORIC DISTRICT, HISTORIC LANDMARK.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MS. CONTRERAS.

THANK YOU.

UH, DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER FOR THE CASE? ALRIGHT, MR. ROGERS, PLEASE, UH, COME AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

OKAY.

I, I'M MARK ROGERS.

UH, MY WIFE AND I, TONA ROGERS OWN THE HOUSE AT 1104 EAST 10TH.

WE MOVED IN AS RENTERS BACK IN 1986 AND ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN 1994, I BELIEVE.

UM, I HAD TO, I DIDN'T INTEND TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT I SAW THE, THE PHOTOGRAPHS UP THERE, AND YOU WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, , THE MODERN PICTURE OF THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.

UH, THE BACK OF THE HOUSE THAT WE MOVED ON, IT WAS THE HOUSE ACTUALLY LOCATED AT 1007 WALLERS.

I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THE TWO PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE WERE NOT THE MAIN HOUSE THAT THAT'S IN QUESTION OR IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION OR ZONING.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANNA PULL UP GOOGLE MAPS AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE.

I DID TAKE SOME, I SAW THE, UH, THE MATERIALS THAT WERE GOING BEFORE YOU WHEN I PULLED UP THE AGENDA EITHER OVER THE WEEKEND OR LAST FRIDAY, AND NOTICED THAT IT WAS JUST, I, I TOSSED THOSE PICTURES IN.

I SAID, IF YOU'RE CURIOUS WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE ADDITION ON THE BACK, WHICH WAS A RELOCATED HOUSE, WE ROLLED IT TWO LOTS FROM WALLER STREET AND ATTACHED IT TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.

AND THEN, UH, A FRIEND OF MINE WHO, WHO DOES HISTORIC RESEARCH, PULLED UP THE PHOTOGRAPH FROM THE, I THINK THE 1970S OF WHAT THAT HOUSE.

SO THERE'S THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, , THAT'S THE ACTUAL HOUSE IN QUESTION.

YES.

THAT MAKES ME FEEL A LITTLE BETTER.

UM, SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY, SO THAT WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO RESTORE IT.

I ACTUALLY FOUND THE ORIGINAL, UH, POST COLUMNS, UH, IN THE BACKYARD WHEN I WAS MOWING THE YARD WAY BACK IN THE 1980S.

AND I WAS HITTING WITH THE LAWNMOWER AND SAID, WHAT THE HECK IS THAT UNDERNEATH ALL THOSE WEEDS? AND FOUND THE, UH, THE POSTS, PORCH POSTS, AND THEN WENT ABOUT RESTORING THINGS.

UH, THEY WERE PRETTY BEAT UP AND CHEWED UP.

SO I GOT REPLICAS MADE OF THOSE POSTS AND, UH, THE SPINDLES UP ABOVE THE RUNNING TRIM OR, OR ORIGINALS.

AND THEN I HAD SOME REPLICAS MADE IN ORDER TO, UM, FINISH THAT OUT.

UH, WHEN WE HAD THE HOUSE PAINTED AT ONE POINT, I NOTICED, UH, WHERE THE HALF COLUMNS WENT AGAINST THE, UH, FACADE, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO THE OUTSIDE WINDOWS, BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THE HOUSE AND, AND COULD LOCATE THOSE AND KNEW, KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THE EXTENT OF THAT ORIGINAL PORCH HAD BEEN AND SO ON.

SO, UM, YEAH, I'VE BEEN FASCINATED BY IT.

UM, CRAWLING AROUND UNDERNEATH, YEARS AGO, PUTTING IN A PHONE LINE WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAD LANDLINES.

I FOUND A BOX OF MATERIALS, LETTERS FROM 1908 THAT THE FRAZIER'S HAD WRITTEN A GRANT.

AND LINCOLN, I, I LOVE THE FACT THAT TREATER FRAZIER, WHO WAS BORN SOMEWHERE AROUND EIGHTEEN FIFTY, EIGHTEEN SIXTY, NAMED HER TWO, TWO OF HER SONS.

SHE HAD 10 CHILDREN.

ONE OF THEM WAS LINCOLN AND THE OTHER WAS GRANT, UM, WASN'T ABOUT TO HIDE HER AFFILIATIONS ON THINGS AND, AND SO ON.

SO SOME REALLY, UM, I THINK OF AS ORDINARY BUT REMARKABLE PEOPLE FOR, FOR THE EARLY HISTORY OF, OF AUSTIN.

SO I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH AND BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MR. ROGERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO PRESENT THIS, UH, UH, IT, IT IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVE SOME OF THESE HOUSES, WHICH COULD EASILY BE OVERLOOKED, HAVE RICH, RICH HISTORIES, AND JUST PUT A LITTLE BIT OF CARE AND ATTENTION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED.

UH, WE REALLY HAVE QUITE A WONDERFUL RESOURCE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

YEAH.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION?

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ALL RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR HISTORIC ZONING INITIATED BY THIS OWNER.

UH, YOU'VE SEEN THE PRESENTATION AND SEEN THE BACKUP, AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND.

OKAY.

SO MOVED BY COMMISSIONER DUDLEY.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE.

THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION NOW.

MS. DUDLEY, WOULD YOU SURE.

COMMISSIONER, I WAS JUST BE MY FIRST, UM, OFFICIAL MO MOTION IN THIS CAPACITY.

SO PLEASE TELL ME IF I DID IT WRONG.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE INITIATE HIS HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1104 EAST 10TH STREET.

OKAY.

AND, UH, OF COURSE IT'S THE OWNER INITIATED IT, BUT YOU'D LIKE TO APPROVE THIS OR SUGGEST THAT WE APPROVE THIS REQUEST AND, UH, RECOMMENDATION IS THE WORD WE NEED.

OKAY.

AH, THAT'S IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK, AND THEN I ALWAYS THROW IN PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS WELL, THAT PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S IN THERE GETS THROWN IN AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR HISTORIC OR RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING ON THIS CASE.

IS THERE A SECOND? JUST ONE MOMENT.

UM, IN THAT MOTION, WOULD WE LIKE TO ADD TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S THIS, UH, REQUIREMENT NOW.

MM-HMM.

, YOU ALSO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

TO APPROVE THE STORY EXAM COMMISSIONER, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY AT 1104 EAST 10TH STREET WITH HISTORIC ZONING.

OKAY.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.

I'LL SECOND.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, UH, COMMISSIONER DUDLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? SURE.

UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE, UM, OUR SUPPORT AND APPRECIATION OF THE OWNER'S STEWARDSHIP OF THIS HISTORIC PROPERTY.

UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE, UH, HISTORIC RESOURCES IN, UM, EAST AUSTIN ESPECIALLY, UH, BUT WITH A VERY LONG AND DIVERSE HISTORY THAT SPEAKS TO THE DIVERSITY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND INCLUSIVITY OF THE HISTORY OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO HONOR THESE, YOU KNOW, EVERYDAY HEROES BASICALLY, THAT HAVE MADE AUSTIN THE CITY THAT IT IS.

SO, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU.

AND REALLY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THE RESTORATION WORK AND THE PRESERVATION OF THIS PARTICULAR HISTORIC RESOURCE.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE, I, I SO MUCH APPRECIATE THAT THE APPLICANT WAS COMPELLED TO COME UP AND SPEAK.

UH, YOU'RE SO FORTUNATE THAT WE SHOWED THE, THE WRONG SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND GOT YOU TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT IT WAS JUST GOOD TO HEAR YOUR WORDS ABOUT THE CARE YOU'VE PUT INTO THE HOUSE AND, AND THE WAY YOU CARE ABOUT IT.

SO, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEM? OKAY.

UH, ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IS THAT, UM, KNOWING, UH, THE IMPORTANCE NOT ONLY OF THE HOUSE, BUT ALSO, UH, LET ME EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE CURRENT APPLICANT AND HIS WIFE.

IT MAY SOMEDAY BE A RENAMING OF THIS, THE DEPUY CHARCO FRAZIER ROGERS HOUSE.

UH, WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THIS FAMILY, SO, UH, THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED THIS AS YET ANOTHER, UH, UH, CONTRIBUTION TO AUSTIN, UH, WE JUST HAVE TO SAY HOW MUCH I I KNOW THAT'S APPRECIATED BY MANY, MANY PEOPLE.

UH, I WILL CALL THE QUESTION ON THE MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR COMMISSIONERS INDICATE BY SAYING, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED, IT IS UNANIMOUS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

UH, THAT JOB WELL DONE.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE ON NOW TO, UH,

[11. PR-2023-076607 – 96 Rainey St. – Discussion ]

THE ITEMS FROM THE LANDMARK, UH, DISTRICTS, THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND THE, UM, NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICTS.

THE, UM, ITEM EIGHT, NO, I'M SORRY.

THE FIRST CONVERSATION.

FIRST DISCUSSION WAS NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT APPLICATION.

ITEM 11.

YES.

96 RAINY STREET.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR A DEMOLITION AND NEW CONSTRUCTION TOGETHER.

WHICH ONE? THANK YOU CHAIR.

THIS ONE, IT'S ALSO DISCUSSION.

ITEM 11 IS A, UH, PROPERTY THAT

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HAS COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION BEFORE, UH, SO I'LL BE BRIEF THIS TIME AROUND.

UH, 96 RAINY STREET HAS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1887 HOUSE AND TO CONSTRUCT A NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON THE SITE.

THE EXISTING HOUSE IS A ONE STORY FOLK VICTORIAN L PLAN HOUSE WITH HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING.

TRADITIONAL CORNERS RETURNS A PARTIAL WIDTH FRONT PORCH WITH A SHED ROOF AND WOOD TO OVER TWO WINDOWS.

A WOOD DECK LEANED TO AND COVERED PATIO HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED TO SHELTER BAR PATRONS.

THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING IS TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT, CLAD AND MASONRY VENEER PANELS, METAL PANELS, AND WOOD SIDING.

UH, THERE ARE BREEZE BLOCK ACCENTS AND A COMPOUND FLAT ROOF AT SOUTH AND WEST.

ELEVATIONS ARE WINDOWLESS FENESTRATION AT THE NORTH AND EAST ELEVATIONS IS A REGULAR WITH FULLY GLAZED DOORS BENEATH MASONRY ARCHES, DIVIDED LIGHT RECTANGULAR, AND ARCHED FIXED WINDOWS AND FRENCH DOORS AT THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONY.

THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS ARE BASED ON THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION AND ARE USED TO EVALUATE PROJECTS IN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.

UH, THIS PROJECT DID NOT MEET THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS.

THE 1985 RAINY STREET NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT LISTS.

THE EXISTING BUILDING IS NOT CONTRIBUTING.

HOWEVER, IT MAY HAVE GAINED POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANCE IN THE LAST 38 YEARS AND SHOULD BE CAREFULLY EVALUATED GIVEN THE REVERSIBLE NATURE OF MANY OF THE NON HISTORIC ACCRETIONS.

UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS WAS TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE BUILDING SUFFICIENTLY MEETS THE DESIGNATION CRITERIA AND INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING.

IF SO.

UM, HOWEVER, WE SHOULD NOTE THAT THE MISSION 75 DAY TIMELINE, UH, WILL EXPIRE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.

UM, SO A VOTE OF NO ACTION IS ALSO APPROPRIATE HERE.

UM, SHOULD THE COMMISSION FEEL THAT THE BUILDING DOES NOT ADEQUATELY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS ADAPTIVE REUSE AND REHABILITATION, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT RELEASE OF THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION COMMENT ON THESE, UH, NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS NEW CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

THANK YOU MS. CONTRERAS.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

UM, WE HAD THIS PRESENTED AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST.

IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION THAT WE SHOULD BE HAVING, UH, ON THIS ITEM? UM, DO WE WANNA CALL FOR SPEAKERS FIRST? OH, I'M SORRY.

UH, IS THERE SOMEBODY HERE, UH, TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, DEMOLITION REQUEST AND THE NEW PLANS? I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE, BUT HE'S AVAILABLE FOR QUESTION, BUT DOES QUESTIONS BUT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

OKAY.

AND IS THERE ANYBODY HERE OPPOSED? OKAY, THEN WE'LL JUMP AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER.

YES.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

I'M MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED.

UH, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, UM, THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, UM, WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UM, INCLUDING, UH, A DECISION TO TAKE NO ACTION.

STAFF WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT THE DEMOLITION PERMIT REVIEW IS UP, UM, OCTOBER 16TH AND WILL NOT RETURN NEXT MONTH.

HOWEVER, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS STILL HAVE AN, UH, AN EXTRA MONTH SO THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS WILL APPEAR ON THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT THE DEMOLITION WILL NOT.

THE DEMOLITION 75 DAY, UM, CLOCK ENDS ON OCTOBER 16TH.

AND THE, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION DRAWING SEVEN FIVE DAY CLOCK ENDS ON NOVEMBER 20TH.

SHORT, SHORT OF US TAKING ACTION ON IT.

SO, OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, I RATHER THAN RELIVE THE AGONY, THIS IS ONE WHERE I, I THINK WE WERE ALL, UM, WISH THE HOUSE WAS IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE AND WE WISH THAT THE OWNER COULD SEE THE MERITS OF TAKING THIS BACK TO, UH, SOME OF ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION.

UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE MADE I THINK THE POINT THAT HOW IMPORTANT THAT COULD BE.

UH, THE ONLY OTHER TOOL WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US BEING HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

UM, I THINK WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ALREADY INDICATING THAT THIS, IN THE MAJORITY OPINION, DIDN'T RISE TO THAT, UH, LEVEL TO JOIN THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THAT DESIGNATION.

UM, I DO THINK THAT WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WE COULD VERY WELL TAKE NO ACTION AND BE ABLE TO SEE THAT SET OF PLANS ONE MORE TIME.

UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF IT WAS POSSIBLE TO SEE SOME UPDATES OF THAT, PARTICULARLY CONSIDERING THE BIG TWO STORY BLANK WALL THAT WE COMMENTED ABOUT AND IS STILL IN THE PACKET.

UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN ANYBODY'S BEST

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INTEREST, AND I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY SUGGEST THEY COULD DO BETTER, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, THE REST OF THE PROPERTY REALLY DOESN'T DO A LOT WITH WHAT'S LEFT OF THE RAINY STREET DISTRICT, WHICH IS MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL IN SCALE.

SO COMMISSIONERS, WE COULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR, UH, WOULD THE MOTION BE TAKING NO ACTION.

I'LL, I'LL MOVE TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THE DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICATION AND TO STRONGLY SUGGEST REVISIONS TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS BEFORE THEY COME, BEFORE US AGAIN NEXT MONTH.

SO THAT WOULD BE NO ACTION TO THE DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICATION AND THEN A POSTPONEMENT FOR THE, UM, A POSTPONEMENT OF THE YES.

NEW CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS WITH A STRONG SUGGESTION FOR REVISIONS BEFORE THEY COME BACK TO US NEXT MONTH.

YEAH.

WITH REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A REOPENING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

UH, IT'S BEEN MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COOK.

UH, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE, I THINK YOU ALREADY SAID IT.

I I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

SO, UM, SHORT OF LITERALLY DOING NOTHING, WE HAD TO TAKE A MOTION TO DO NOTHING.

JUST MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE WERE OTHER OPTIONS.

YEP.

UH, IT'S UP TO, UP TO THE OWNER TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.

UH, COMMISSIONER COOK, AND I'LL AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID AS WELL.

UH, THIS IS RAINY STREET UPSIDE DOWN WORLD WHERE WE TOOK A NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT AND UP ZONED THE HECK OUT OF IT TO ENCOURAGE HIGH RISES TO GO ON TOP OF IT.

I I WILL SAY, WHEN YOU WALK DOWN RAIN STREET, YOU WILL SEE IN ACTION MARKET POWERS THAT DO RESPECT HISTORIC CONSTRUCTION.

UM, THERE IS A GOOD DEAL OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS THERE.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE STREET LIFE IS.

THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE REASON PEOPLE GO DOWN THERE.

I WISH, UH, THIS OWNER COULD POSSIBLY SEE THAT IT'S, UM, I WAS REALLY ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS ONE.

UH, SEEING AS HOW WE DID LET OTHERS PROPERTIES OF SIMILAR OR POSSIBLY BETTER CONDITION GO IN LIEU OF HIGHRISES, BUT KNOWING THAT THIS IS GOING TO REMAIN A VENUE ON THE SAME PROPERTY, UM, JUST IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE OTHER OPTIONS TO PRESERVE AT LEAST THE FACADE OF THE HOUSE AND STILL HAVE THE SAME SORT OF UTILITY.

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A BETTER DESIGN OPTION HERE.

IT'S NOT HIGH RISE VERSUS HISTORIC HOUSE.

IT'S, UM, WAREHOUSE TYPE VENUE VERSUS HISTORIC HOUSE THAT COULD BE SENSITIVELY ADAPTED TO SERVE THE SAME PURPOSE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST GIVE IT ONE MORE MONTH'S CHANCE TO CONSIDER THAT.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS MOTION.

I THINK THE NO ACTION ALLOWS US TO NOT WIPE, NOT HAVE TOO MUCH BLOOD ON OUR HANDS.

AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS IN THE PAST WE MAYBE COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY ABOUT RAINEY, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS AND THE WAY IT LOOKS NOW.

AND I THINK MAYBE, HOPEFULLY WITH PUBLIC SUPPORT AND MAYBE WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE POLITICAL WILL, UM, FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER PLANNING COMMISSIONS ZONING, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY START TO PROTECT THESE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES IN THIS, IN THIS CASE, NOT, NOT A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING.

UM, BUT THERE'S NO PURPOSE IN DESIGNATING THESE BUILDINGS AS CONTRIBUTING NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICTS IF WE AT THE CITY CAN'T, UH, CAN'T HAVE THAT ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AS WELL.

SO I JUST THINK THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN LEARN FROM, FROM THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? RIGHT.

I WILL CALL THE QUESTION ON THE MOTION, UH, TO, UM, TAKE NO ACTION AND, UH, POSTPONE, UH, ON THE DEMOLITION REQUEST AND THEN TO POSTPONE TILL OUR NEXT MEETING OPEN, UH, ON THE, UH, ON THE PLAN REVIEW AND IN BOTH CASES REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING, UH, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S TAKE A, TAKE A HAND VOTE HERE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

THAT'S 1, 2, 3, 6.

OKAY.

THOSE OPPOSED? AND WITH TWO OPPOSED.

AND, OKAY.

SO THE MOTION DOES PASS.

ALRIGHT, MS. ALLEN, DO YOU HAVE THE, THOSE IN FAVOR? MM-HMM.

.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU.

I, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TOUGH ONES, BUT, UM, I THINK WE'VE, WITH THE TOOLS WE HAVE, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE MADE, MADE, UH, WHAT WE THINK WOULD BE THE BEST THING HAPPEN, UH, CLEAR.

AND WHETHER WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN OR, OR NOT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

AND, AND CHAIR, IF, IF I MAY, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THE UH, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE IS AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR THIS HOUSE IF THE APPLICANT WERE SO MOVED.

TERRIFIC.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THE NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM IS

[15. PR-2023-103994 – 4210 Wilshire Pkwy. – Consent Wilshire National Register District ]

ITEM NUMBER 15.

THAT'S 42 10 WILSHIRE PARKWAY.

UH, THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM PULLED BY COMMISSIONER RUBIO.

MS. CONTRERAS.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1947 HOUSE.

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UH, NO NEW CONSTRUCTION IS PROPOSED FOR THIS SITE.

THIS IS A ONE STORY MASON RE VENEER HOUSE WITH MULTI LIGHT METAL CASEMENT WINDOWS AND AN ATTACHED CARPORT.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1947 IN ITS FIRST OCCUPANTS.

UH, REGINALD AND DOROTHY SHIN LIVED IN THE HOME UNTIL AROUND 1953.

REGINALD SHIN WAS IN THE AIR FORCE, ITS NEXT RESIDENCE.

THE WILSONS ONLY LIVED IN THE HOME FOR A FEW YEARS BEFORE SELLING IT TO THE MCGUIRES, ANOTHER AIR FORCE FAMILY.

UH, THIS PROPERTY CONTRIBUTES TO THE WILSHIRE WOOD NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

HOWEVER, STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINED THAT IT DOES NOT MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE ADAPTIVE REUSE AND REHABILITATION, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

THANK YOU MR. CONTRERAS.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE HAVE, WE MAY HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT IF THIS, UH, IS SOMEONE HERE IN FAVOR OF THIS DEMOLITION REQUEST? ANYBODY WE WISH TO SPEAK IN, IN FAVOR? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ALRIGHT.

UM, I THINK WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED.

CHAIR, SETH.

UH, SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

UM, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, UH, HAVE MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALL THOSE INDICATE THEIR APPROVAL BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS CLOSED.

COMMISSIONERS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO ON THIS? AND COMMISSIONER RUBIO, I GUESS SINCE YOU PULLED IT, YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC YOU'D LIKE TO.

YEAH.

LET'S SEE.

LET'S SEE WHERE WE, WHERE WE STAND ON THIS ONE.

I THINK I KNOW, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING, UM, ON THE TWO VALUES OF ARCHITECTURE AND COMMUNITY VALUE.

LOOKING AT THIS NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, IT'S CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE 2011.

SO THIS IS A FAIRLY NEW DISTRICT.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NEW DISTRICT THAT I WAS NOT EVEN TOO FAMILIAR WITH LEARNING ABOUT THE AUTO ORIENTED SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NEAR WHAT WAS FORMERLY MUELLER AIRPORT.

RIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT GOES INTO DETAILS ABOUT THE IRREGULAR LOTS AND THE SETBACKS AND HOW A LOT OF THEM ARE RANCH HOUSES, 1940S, 1950S.

UM, THERE'S VALUE HERE.

THERE'S COMMUNITY VALUE THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING PART OF THAT COMMUNITY VALUE AS WELL AS ARCHITECTURE.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE REPLACED, NOT TO GO FOR A DENSER AUSTIN, BUT A LESS DENSE AUSTIN.

MAYBE THAT'S JUST THE CHERRY ON TOP.

OKAY.

I'LL SECOND WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, FROM THE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER RUBIO, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON YOUR MOTION THAT YOU KIND OF MADE IT AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU MADE YOUR MOTION? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE? I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING COMMISSIONER RUBIO SAID.

I THINK THAT IT'S JUST HEARTBREAKING THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, FOUR BLOCKS FROM AN I 35 UNDERPASS IN WHICH PEOPLE REGULARLY SLEEP EVERY NIGHT.

AND HERE WE ARE LOSING A HOUSE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF LOSING A HOUSE.

I MEAN, THERE IS SOME SORT OF REALLY TWISTED POETICS IN THAT WILSHIRE WOODS WAS DEVELOPED AS A, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SHOULD BE WELL OFF WITH VERY LARGE LAWNS FOR THEIR OWN PRIVATE PARKS TO BE HAD.

AND HERE WE ARE EXPANDING UPON THAT.

UM, BUT IT'S JUST NOT OKAY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PROPERTY IS GONNA REACH THE, THE HIGH BAR THAT WE SET FOR HISTORIC ZONING, BUT IT, IT DESERVES A FURTHER DEEP DIVE.

UM, I'M ALSO CURIOUS IF WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP AND IT, IT DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH THE PROPERTIES ON EITHER SIDE OF IT.

THE OWNERSHIP ENTITY, I THINK THAT 42 0 8 DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR, WE, IN RECENT YEARS THAT, THAT WAS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING THAT WE APPROVED THE DEMOLITION OF AND APPROVED THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AND THERE WAS A, I I'M NOT, I MIGHT BE RECALLING INCORRECTLY, BUT I, I RECALL IT, A PART OF THE HEATED DISCUSSION WAS THE NEIGHBORS AND HOW CLOSE THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION IS TO THE NEIGHBORS.

AND NOW HERE WE ARE LOSING A NEIGHBOR.

SO IT'S ALL, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE TO BE UNDERSTOOD THERE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE, COUPLE MONTHS.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS MOTION? I, I, I HAVE TO SAY, I, I HAVE PERSONALLY VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE STANDARD THAT WE'D, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS IN OTHER CASES, THIS ISN'T NEW.

THE STANDARD THAT WE SHOULD BE KEEPING OR HOLDING OURSELVES TO WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH AN OWNER THAT WE,

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IN THIS CASE IS, IS REQUESTING THE DEMOLITION.

SO I THINK THEY'RE NOT HERE TO TELL US THEY WERE OPPOSED TO THIS MOTION, BUT MY GUESS IS, IS IT'S PRETTY MUCH ASSUMED THAT THEY DON'T WANT THIS.

UM, THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, EVEN IF THIS WAS COMING FORWARD WHERE, UM, I GUESS AN EAGER AN AN EAGER OWNER, I WOULD STILL HAVE TO LOOK RATHER SERIOUSLY AT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BUILDING.

AND I THINK IT'S ONE AMONG MANY, UH, IN AN AREA THAT IT APPROPRIATELY IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.

BUT I THINK THERE ARE MANY MORE PROPERTIES IN THE WILSHIRE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT WOULD DESERVE INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK BEFORE THIS ONE WOULD.

AND AND I, OF COURSE, MY FILTER IS, IS OFTENTIMES THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRST AND THE OTHER ASSOCIATION SECOND.

BUT I THINK IN BOTH CASES, THIS DOES NOT RISE TO THE SAME LEVEL THAT A NUMBER OF OTHER PROPERTIES WOULD LONG BEFORE THIS ONE WOULD, WOULD TAKE ITS PLACE IF, EVEN IF IT, IF IT SHOULD, IF AS A, AS A DESIGNATED LANDMARK.

SO COMMISSIONER ROCHE, I, I WONDER IF, UM, WE, UH, ON THIS DIOCESE ARE IN CHARGE OF SETTING THE BAR AND SETTING THE STANDARD.

AND I WONDER IF WHEN WE LOWER THAT BAR, IF WE DON'T DIMINISH OUR STATURE IN SOME WAY AS WE LOOK TO OTHER PROPERTIES? THAT WOULD BE MY COMMENT.

I'LL, I'LL RESPOND TO BOTH OF YOU.

UM, AND FIRST SAY THAT I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AGAINST A RECOMMENDATION THE NEXT TIME THIS COMES BEFORE US.

UM, AND I THINK THAT TO YOU, COMMISSIONER ROCHE, WE HAVE SUCH A LIMITED NUMBER OF TOOLS AT OUR DISPOSAL HERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAT INITIATING HISTORIC ZONING SIMPLY TO POSSIBLY COMPEL THE OWNER TO COME TALK TO US IS JUST, I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT BARS THAT ARE SET, THAT'S LIKE THE LOWEST BAR WE COULD POSSIBLY HOP OVER OF TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS JUST BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE OWNER WHO DIDN'T SHOW UP TONIGHT.

AND MAYBE THEY WILL IF THEY FIND OUT THAT WE'VE INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING ON THE PROPERTY COMMISSIONERS.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING IN A NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO, UH, PER CODE YOU HAVE UP TO 180 DAYS TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS DEMOLITION.

UH, AND THAT IS JUST BY POSTPONING AND WITHOUT INITIATING.

UM, YEAH.

SO THE, THE NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT DOES GIVE US A LONGER PURVIEW FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION FOR CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS BEFORE, BEFORE TAKING ANY SPECIFIC ACTION.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND THE MOTION WAS TO INITIATE AND SO I, I SECONDED.

I WOULD ALSO HAVE, UM, SUPPORTED A MOTION TO POSTPONE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S LEVELS AT WHICH, AGAIN, I'M, I'M MOSTLY INTERESTED IN COMPELLING THE OWNER TO COME TALK TO US.

UM, BUT I, I'LL STAND BY MY SECOND FOR NOW.

UM, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THE, UH, INITIATION, I BELIEVE NEEDS TO LEAD TO A RECOMMENDATION AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH WOULD, UH, SHORTEN THE TIMELINE.

UM, BUT I CAN CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, UM, IF, IF SOMEONE IS SO INCLINED, YOU COULD CERTAINLY OFFER AS AMENDMENT TO THE MAIN MOTION, UH, OR WE COULD DO IT TO UP OR DOWN VOTE ON THE HISTORIC ZONING, AND THEN IF THAT FAILED POSTPONEMENT WOULD BE A SECOND OPTION.

YOU COULD, YOU COULD HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER OPTION AT THIS POINT.

WELL, CORRECT.

AND, AND I WOULD OFFER A FRIENDLY TO THE MOTION TO MOVE TO POSTPONE BECAUSE IT WORKS IN OUR FAVOR TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE HAS ARTICULATED.

AND, AND SO IF, IF THE, IF THE NET GOAL IS TO PULL BEHIND THE CURTAIN AND SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT, THEN I THINK THAT'S A, A BETTER METHODOLOGY TO ACHIEVE THAT END.

OKAY.

ANY, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANNA PICK UP ON THAT? WELL, FIRST WE HAVE TO SEE IF THE ORIGINAL MOTION OR, WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE DISCUSSING THE ORIGINAL MOTION STILL, SO THAT NOW OF COURSE, THE ORIGINAL MAKER OF THE MOTION COULD MODIFY HIS MOTION IF HE CHOOSES, CHOOSES, OR OTHERS COULD WEIGH IN.

YEAH, I'M, I'M GONNA NOTE THAT I WOULD AGREE THAT THE SIX MONTH DEMOLITION DELAY WOULD BE THE PREFERABLE TOOL THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US AT THIS POINT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? COMMISSIONER RUBIO? OKAY.

NOW I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT.

, YOU CAN EITHER, WE'RE GETTING ALL THE EXCITING STUFF NOW, SO YOU CAN EITHER RESCIND YOUR MOTION AND YES.

AND I WOULD SECOND THAT, OR YOU COULD, UH, AMEND IT TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE A POSTPONEMENT INSTEAD OF AN INITIATION.

YEAH, I THINK EITHER ONE.

I WOULD JUST AMEND THAT TO AMEND.

OKAY.

POSTPONE THIS TO NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, TO

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REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, POSTPONE THAT AMENDMENT WAS MADE BY THE MOTION MAKER.

AND SECOND, I'LL SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S IN ORDER THEN.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION AS IT HAS NOW BEEN AMENDED TO POSTPONE TO OUR NOVEMBER MEETING? UH, I THINK JUST SO WE'RE VERY CLEAR, THE INTENT IS TO KNOW BETTER WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF EITHER MAINTAINING THE HOUSE AS IS OR, UH, AS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, UH, OR, UH, WHAT THE OWNER INTENDS IN LEAVING A VACANT LOT, WHICH BASICALLY IS A MISSING GAP, UH, IN THE, YOU KNOW, AS THEY SOMETIMES SAY, THESE GAPS ARE LIKE MISSING TEETH ALONG YOUR STREETSCAPE.

UH, SO I THINK JUST GETTING A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE LONG-TERM GOAL IS FOR THIS REQUEST.

UH, I THINK WE REALLY DO HAVE TO SEE SOME WAY OF DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE OWNER AND I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT BEHIND THE MOTION.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AS STATED, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

SO IT IS UNANIMOUS AND WE WILL HAVE THIS HOPEFULLY DO, UH, CONSIDERING NEXT MONTH.

ALRIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM

[16. HR-2023-118825 – 514 E. Live Oak St. – Consent Travis Heights-Fairview Park National Register District]

PULLED FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM NUMBER 16.

THAT'S FIVE 14 EAST LIVE OAK STREET.

THIS IS IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

AND THIS IS, AGAIN, A REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION OF A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AS WELL AS THE, UM, REQUEST FOR REVIEW OF THE PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

UH, THE PROPOSAL FOR FIVE 14 ACE LIVE OAK STREET IS TO DEMOLISH A HOUSE CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN 1917 AND 1930 AND TO CONSTRUCT A NEW BUILDING.

THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING IS TWO AND A HALF STORIES IN HEIGHT, IT'S CLADDED STUCCO, HORIZONTAL SIDING, AND BRICK VENEER.

IT'S COMPOUND ROOFS CLA IN IN STANDING.

SEA METAL FENESTRATION INCLUDES FIXED ENCASEMENT WINDOWS WITH VARIOUS LIGHT CONFIGURATIONS, A PARTIALLY GLAZED FRONT DOOR AND A FRONT FACING GARAGE.

THE EXISTING HOUSE IS A ONE STORY BUNGALOW WITH A PARAMETAL HIP ROOF AND THEN INTERSECTING PORCH GABLE.

IT FEATURES A PARTIAL WIDTH INSET PORCH AND HORIZONTAL SIDING.

DECORATIVE DETAILS INCLUDE EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS AND REMNANTS OF JIGSAW BRACKETS.

THE HOUSE AT FIVE 14 EAST LIVE OAK, UH, HISTORICALLY ADDRESSED AS BOTH 400 EAST LIVE OAK IN 2119 BROOKLYN IN OUR, IN ARCHIVAL DOCUMENTS IS IDENTIFIED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER INVENTORY AS A 1917 STRUCTURE.

THOUGH THE BUILDING DOES NOT APPEAR IN CITY DIRECTORIES UNTIL THE 1930S, ITS MODIFIED FORM IN DETAIL.

SUGGEST AN EARLIER BILL THAN THE 1930 WATER TAP PERMIT.

THE PLUMLEY FAMILY, OR THE EARLIEST DOCUMENTED RESIDENCE, THEY APPEAR TO HAVE SOLD THE HOUSE IN THE EARLY 1930S AFTER BEING CAUGHT STORING LIQUOR ILLEGALLY AT THE HOUSE.

DURING PROHIBITION? NO, IN THE LATE 1930S INTO THE 1940S, THE HOME WAS OCCUPIED BY JAY BUFORD SMITH, A BOOKKEEPER AT THE STATE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, UH, AND HIS WIFE CATHERINE.

IN THE 1950S, THE HOUSE APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN PRIMARILY A RENTAL PROPERTY WITH RESIDENCE, INCLUDING A MILL OPERATOR AND A DRY CLEANER.

THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS ARE BASED ON THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION AND ARE USED TO EVALUATE PROJECTS IN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.

THIS PROJECT DOES NOT MEET MOST OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS.

UM, THE EXISTING HOUSE CONTRIBUTES TO THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, AND THE BUILDING APPEARS TO RETAIN MODERATE INTEGRITY.

SOME WINDOWS HAVE BEEN REPLACED AND THE PORCH HAS BEEN ALTERED.

STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINED THAT IT DOES NOT MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION.

THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO COMMENT ON THE PLANS, ENCOURAGING REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MS. CONTRERAS, UH, IS THE OWNER HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS? THE APPLICANT IS, UH, JOINING US BY PHONE, UH, MICHAEL LINEHAN.

OKAY.

SELECT MR. LEHAM.

HELLO.

ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? THIS IS MICHAEL LINNEHAN.

YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, YES.

THIS IS MICHAEL LINNEHAN.

I AM THE, UH, ARCHITECT AND REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND CURRENT RESIDENCE.

UH, AT THIS LOCATION, UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR DEMOLITION AND OF THIS, OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE FOR A NEW BUILD.

UH, DO WANNA MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION.

UH, I BELIEVE THAT DOES A TWO AND A HALF STORIES.

THIS IS A TWO OUT, UH, THAT DOES STEP DOWN TO A SINGLE STORY ON THE PRIMARY FACADE, UH, WHICH WE'RE TELLING THE SOUTH .

UM, UH, THE, WAS THE CONDITION OF THE, THE PRIMARY

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FACADE AND THE EXISTING RESIDENCE.

SO, UH, TWO STORY HOUSE, UH, IT'S A 2300 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND OUR CLIENT IS THE CURRENT RESIDENT OF THE HOUSE.

UM, AND THEIR INTENT WAS TO REDESIGN WITH, UH, CABLED ROOF STRUCTURE, A SIGNIFICANT ARTICULATION IN A FRONT PORCH TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE VERNACULAR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BERKELEY.

UM, SO WE DO ASK FOR YOUR, UH, CONSIDERATION PROPOSAL.

UM, AND WOULD LIKE TO ALSO NOTE THAT AS STATED IN THE REPORT, THIS DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

AND THE INTENT OF THE DESIGN IS TO BE MORE RESPECTFUL OF THE VERNACULAR OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE'S A LOT OF NEW, VERY CONTEMPORARY, UH, HOMES THAT DO NOT MEET THE HISTORIC VERNACULAR IN THIS PRESENCE.

AND SO THIS WAS MEANT TO BE A NOD TO THE, THE EXISTING, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ARCHITECTURE, UH, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME CONTEMPORARY ELEMENTS TO IT, UH, TO GIVE THE, THE MORE REFRESH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MR. LEHAN.

THANK YOU.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION OF THE ARCHITECT? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? UH, GO AHEAD.